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Episode Date: January 25, 2023

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Starting point is 00:00:35 alright, there we are yeah We're good, we're live Hello are we a- funny story yeah, actually, I, would not mind starting out right off the bat with actually an update
Starting point is 00:01:00 and Further comments on something we covered not too long ago the the matcherino story with Arturo Sanchez I saw that there was an update on this. Yes, so I don't know what it what it was So I'm glad that you can actually can you break this down for me like I'm a moron? I I have as I have some details of course, you know, there's to the best of my ability, I think I can Give the update across but I think it's important to Cover because especially considering the way things looked of course new information comes out
Starting point is 00:01:36 you get more perspective and then you see how things shake out and Looks like it's a bit of a different story, right? so I Don't know if well I'm just thinking of how we we just covered the hell in a tailor and all that You know in the way that turned out but It goes the other way too sometimes. Yeah, it certainly does. But anyway in this particular case again, it's you always You can you can really react but information is good. So here's the information we got basically
Starting point is 00:02:10 the initial accusations were such that matcherino dropped Arturo Sanchez they based they stated that it was due to financial misconduct and then Later and then after that Accusations were made from I guess like a bum bifuteki and D nice who Weren't there allegations that like he was stealing money and that there is basically like shenanigans going on with like pots and payout When looking at the brackets, you would see situations where he was his name would be inserted into the top
Starting point is 00:02:47 Named for the for the certain slots to pay out to himself and then people were then paid through PayPal afterwards or Sometimes it was unclear not to you know, whatever the case was so That basically was just obviously a huge blow-up that was like yo Stealing money in a situation where people are like donating to support a pot is awful and Considering how many events would be run, you know By art and such over the years. It just led to a lot of you know Organizations being like yeah, okay, I think we're not gonna work with him over what's happened here and the way this this is going So what has basically happened since then has been?
Starting point is 00:03:32 To's have gone over their Metrics on everything in terms of the the financial statements the payouts and such Players who've won money as well have gone over there Payouts and have basically been reporting in that no money is missing The discrepancies that have been seen could be attributed to PayPal fees. It seems in some cases, but for the most part There's nothing that hasn't been paid out. The main thing that seems to be The issue is there was late payments, right?
Starting point is 00:04:10 And that was something that when he came on his stream, which was again a pretty it was a stream that went pretty rough and then You know got then he deleted it afterwards and it was it was it added fuel to the fire certainly was it was definitely a bad Look, but the the he did say at that point. He's like, yeah late payments was absolutely something that happened and that you know was a part of what was going on but the stolen fees accusation and such was More dubious and that's obviously a bigger claim and it seems like from what people are writing in on and checking in now That they've had a chance to go over years of of archives of payments. They're seeing nothing missing. So Yeah, it seems as if
Starting point is 00:04:55 Essentially the maturino statement about misconduct could have been due to the fact that There was a late payment system involved or even just the idea of him paying out to himself because and there's different discussions about that because this is where it gets a bit unclear as to why the the The payout to him directly through maturino and then to people through PayPal later There was talk about like taxes where through maturino It gets taxed a certain we get taxed right away through PayPal It perhaps wouldn't or I don't know about that side of it, but at the very least The term misconduct could have referred to like the late payments and paying out
Starting point is 00:05:37 You know directly to himself and then giving people back the PayPal transfers later And it could even refer to of course the late payments But it seems like when it comes to actually stolen money that might not be the case Are you familiar with the term performative innocence? No, but the words imply okay, so performative innocence is Maybe maybe I'm doing something that I'm not supposed to be doing and I will act I will perform like hyper virtuosity in order to like soften that This situation when I was going over it seems to be the first time I can think of of seeing what I would call performative guilt
Starting point is 00:06:22 in which This actually sounds like everything was probably fine But every single fucking thing that came out of every single person's mouth Made them look so fucking sketchy Like earlier you said the stream went bad and then they deleted the stream that looks so fucking bad That looks really bad And the thing on the stream of course where there was like hey Can you you know can people see the PayPal readouts and such and you know there's a lot of like
Starting point is 00:06:55 Yeah, the live stream response to kind of then go into like a Transparency, but then it doesn't end up being transparent just ends up looking pretty bad admittedly like that's that's rough, but They I guess the bottom line is is I guess that like the people who dealt with the money You know the people like Chris matrix and such that have you know been running tournaments and Have looked through again their finances and the people who got the money Sonic Fox kill sage number of players who've you know looked at all the the finances They're like yeah, it all squares out, you know and so the idea in the end is like it just it wasn't on time and
Starting point is 00:07:36 That perhaps could be the the main takeaway there, but the The theft accusations were yeah, they were not true so It's It's a bad one, but I'm glad that at the very least like you know You have the pitchwork reaction certainly and you have like I'm the type of person that's just like okay I just hope that we can get people
Starting point is 00:08:06 Giving updates and info to these types of situations because yeah it like It does suck especially when you look back on again Arturo Sanchez has been around in the the community for literally forever and you know like I said it's been You know over this reveal there's been like a thing of like yeah, there's like 1800 I think events over the last couple years that he was running and stuff It's like there's so much there that it's like Man the idea that this could be bad is is fucking depressing That's like I said I got pretty sad at that. I you know when we were talking about it last time so
Starting point is 00:08:43 Yeah, just want to give an update on where that's at at the moment I Feel On the assumption that Arturo is actually I'm not gonna say in the right But like totally fine because if because being in the right on a thing It would be whatever but he's actually totally fine. I feel really bad for him Yeah, and the way that this this totally got handled out especially since The accusation like blow-up of like hey this dude stealing money is gonna like reach way farther and way wider Than anybody going into the nitty-gritty after the fact. Yeah
Starting point is 00:09:25 and you know, this is one of those bits to where it's like I I mean it should be obvious to anyone who's been around at this point But like I'm not a fan of like Half reported stories, you know, I really don't like that shit. So sometimes if I feel like There's more to be here or there's probably more to something It's not necessarily gonna be on the docket if there's more to it You know, so when something is like in its phases of like, oh shit, this blow-ups happening, you know And then it basically ends up being something we're like, yeah, this looks pretty bad right now
Starting point is 00:10:05 We got to just wait and see but right now it looks pretty bad at the end of the day I feel like that goes back and I mean with the Helena Taylor thing is one thing Everybody was watching that like piece by piece and it was unfolding, you know tweet by tweet But in stuff like this is case it was almost like I don't I yeah Obviously it just looks stupid when you're like, oh, yeah, fuck this blow it all up You know and again pitchforks yadda yadda, but the information is not all out there yet, you know, so um, I Yeah, I hate it. I don't like that shit You can never know of course because it can always end up just being exactly what it sounds like and then worse and you know
Starting point is 00:10:43 Especially when someone when there's people that are like You know alleged when people allege that wrongdoing has occurred to them Right you want to be sympathetic to those claims, so I feel like by nature We tend to do that but There are times when Me personally I like to just wait in here if there's more to a story, you know before fully going in I Don't know how to respond to that. I okay. Yeah, no
Starting point is 00:11:24 So I'm just basically putting out how like cuz it came the way it came up when we last talked about it I guess it was just like, you know like oh, yo, this blow-up is currently happening at the end I was like, yeah, it was happening. I was kind of you know Like waiting to hear more about it, but I guess if we're gonna go into it now. I don't want to like make any Hardline statements that I can't fucking prove cuz I don't know cuz I'm just hearing about it from other people's tweets You know, well, I mean at the at the time even even had I not brought it up that day the next day Team spooky dropped him which would have been newsworthy in and out in its own right that would have been news where they And then the discussion becomes why did team spooky drop him and then you're right back to
Starting point is 00:12:09 Where you started? Yeah, and now now we're I guess the we're seeing the part two side where it's like if we're gonna See I guess the you know, well, they're spooky and then there's the other well The other the tournaments and the other organizations and stuff that were kind of like yeah We're not gonna work with art from now on if that's gonna get updated or so it seems like a number of them have reached out and I think he's been retweeting about that stuff, but You know, I think as well. He's kind of mentioned like yeah, not not doing super great overall this but is like you know going to try to work on the
Starting point is 00:12:45 better handling of money and transparency side of things certainly but At the very least the core of it just that like some payments got held and then like paid out like a month late or something I mean I It's it's it's hard to fully say because Individual people's relationships from a working perspective can get soured over different types of things I mean, there's like lateness is you know There's there's been like times where like art would show up late on stream to things and stuff and so you know like there's
Starting point is 00:13:17 There's definitely all kinds of personal dynamics between people But when it comes down to just players and money and such that it's like, okay, that has nothing that that has you can like whatever It's happening privately between people. It's like no, you can't have the the people who are owed money getting fucked over in any way So that and I think the the maturino statement kind of like not 100% like it was left up to interpretation to some degree then led to like these sort of accusations, but like If their whole grounds were was based on him against the self-payouts and the under the late Payments that still grounds for them to say hey, well, you don't want to work with you like that if that's their personal
Starting point is 00:14:01 You know if that's the way their their TOS works then that's still grounds for it But when it's left to interpretation afterwards and then it becomes about people's you know individual stories Then yeah, that can take on a narrative of its own, you know Anyway, so I just wanted to address that off the bat and and Give the update since you know, we did previously talk about it And you know and if anybody heard that part and then doesn't hear this part like Well fuck, you know, I hope you eventually do I suppose but yeah, that's that's what's going on there. I Will say one thing somebody just pointed out in the chat, which is
Starting point is 00:14:42 considering all the people that were involved at various organizations and whatnot and And Now that people of you said people have gone through like the entire transaction log and saw and yeah They've done audits of the of the tournament like money But no fire kind of situation. Yeah in that context It is a little strange at just how lightning fast everyone was ready to drop in Like usually
Starting point is 00:15:17 Like this is it's this is not a murder or a sex crime, right? It's it's It's it's financial shenanigans or in malarkey, which could have been like calmly investigated While not letting him touch the money while they were doing that Right like just don't touch the money while we go through the thing and check right, but everybody just like Lightning fast I think was ready to announce dropping him Well, because I think it was the announcement of that in as the first catalyst followed by wait What happened what's going on and then the rest of the story got constructed, but the initial one being like a tweet of like Hey, this is what happened. There was misconduct and that's why
Starting point is 00:16:05 Yeah, there's things that you can handle in private especially if there's numbers you got to go through and shit like that It probably would have been better for either a that statement to have been handled after all the Auditing had been done or B for something like that to at least specify the nature of what the misconduct includes so that it doesn't go on to You know Get false accusations involved, right? Yeah, yeah odd one Anyway, that's that's that's that's one thing
Starting point is 00:16:45 Going on this week, but hey anything lighter than that. Yeah, man, you know, there's good stuff in fighting games. I Welcome to my new segment. I meant like in general. Okay, welcome to my new segment. There's good stuff in fighting games This week I had the pleasure of doing some commentary for the strive beginners bracket, which Takes place over on say jams discord and That was a lot of fun Shoutouts to solid bones who was one of the Evil commentators that was doing stuff for strive and yeah, we did some co-commentary over their weekly Tournament and they have a really smart setup. I gotta say like it's the type of thing that you know
Starting point is 00:17:37 Yeah, it's it's it's the type of thing that like would I'd love to to have or run something like this for just like letting New players have a fucking place to glow grow and flourish, you know, but it's a beginner's bracket, right? So they what they do is they run people who want to play some guilty-gear strive that are Mm-hmm Okay, so they they check you your your profile out to see like what level you're at with your characters Okay, so you mentioned beginner's bracket my first question is how do you make sure like super freak smurfs aren't Sneaking their way in well the first level of defense is that there's a range, right? And you also have to you can't be
Starting point is 00:18:23 there's a there's a level of Minimum prowess also needed, right? Like if you're at floor one or two like just learning to press buttons it like they're they're kind of Seeing if you can like kind of get past that initial phase of just like learning how the game works You know this image in my head of playing a game against say jam, but yeah, okay. You're trashed. You can you can play Good. I've good. I've good so What they do is they basically make sure that you're you're not too high up in your levels of any other character on your on your list and It's generally
Starting point is 00:19:00 It's generally people who are around floors nine and ten that like aren't really cracking celestial, you know That's 99% of people There's a lot of people there's a lot of people there and the journey up to that eighth or ninth floor You know can go quickly if you sort of are you go train a little bit and learn I learned how to do some cheap stuff You know so but that that's yeah There's a lot of people there that like really want to feel that improvement and have put the some time in you know, so It's it's a and it's also like it's a great level of strength for like
Starting point is 00:19:40 For showing off like I guess the way I put it in like Dark Souls terms is like different builds where if somebody has like no offense Like no faith or whatever, but they've got a fuck ton of stamina You know or different things like that where you just see like okay different people have built up a basic game plan They don't have the full thing and sometimes someone will be like yo that guy is way too good What's up with that and then they're way too strong to compete? I mean what's up with that and then like they'll get hit by something do a bad burst and then you'll watch them melt into a puddle Yeah, that's that's my favorite. I don't want to call it but fake placement a
Starting point is 00:20:22 Place that I have existed in in almost every fighting game at some state because I'm very aggressive Wow, this guy's really good. Yep until it doesn't go my way once and then I'm just gonna completely fall apart like a child Yes, as long as you're playing a one-player game where the opponent is not forcing you to do anything You can look as stylish as you want to but the moment you have to actually adjust to things then it starts to fall apart And and you know people who are generally Failing what I call the knowledge checks, right? Like you can fight everybody who's willing to run up to you and punch you But can you fight Axel who's cool to just sit back there and never get in can you deal my favorite? Recent knowledge check was when I was playing Street Fighter 6. I decided to play Ken last beta
Starting point is 00:21:10 And I got to enjoy the situation of I don't know what the properties on these shoryukens are Oh, which which is the one that I use one when I'm being rushed down on the floor. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah Is it medium? It's usually medium. It's not me. Mm-hmm. Which ones throw invincible? Is it is it jab? I want to say it's jab, but I don't know so they've kind of gotten rid of those unit those different states for the shoryu's FYI like I think they're kind of universalized now into yeah good. I know that Yeah, yeah now. It's just ex invincibility or not type of thing but um So what happened is so yeah, so say jams discord they run this every week
Starting point is 00:21:52 they have a guilty-gear strive beginners tournament and It's really cool because so everyone enters as people that enter multiple times, you know because your goal is to get to that top three and The reward for getting third place second place or winning first is you get fucking banned from the tournament Yeah That's a great reward. You get that is a great Fuck out. You've graduated get the fuck out of here. You're too good Just stand on top of your metaphorical mountain and look down at everybody else in the tournament You're all too weak for me now. It's awesome. It's such a smart idea
Starting point is 00:22:32 Again shout out solid bones because what you end up seeing is people who get really they start building their game plan They improve a bit every week. They're not quite there yet, but they get to top eight, you know, and they're able to like push it but they're Fighting to get to that that graduation seat, you know trying to get banned and like when the menace of the current tournament Eventually wins they all get kicked out and now three new people who have been struggling are now The dogs to beat, you know, you are now you've been struggling you're just like that fourth place you're now the strongest in the group and People are now afraid of you and your job is to see if you can make it out, you know
Starting point is 00:23:18 Exactly, it's it's such a fucking great motivational tool, you know and and Yeah, I have a question What's to stop somebody from getting to the quarter finals and then just fucking throwing it super hard, right? And so that so that they can stay in the beginners tournament and so and improve and stomp on everyone I literally made that joke because we were watching a really really fun sole player Who was like doing some cool stuff and styling amazing conversions full coast-to-coast, you know east to west stuff And we're like, yo this dude's looking a little too nice here
Starting point is 00:23:57 Hold on a minute, and it's just like he's probably thinking like shit I got to do some random heavy mob cemeteries just to throw them off the scent You know, let's just do some wake-up supers and see if they kind of go, okay. No, no, wait never mind never mind You know cuz this is the this is the quarter finals. Oh, no, oh the pressure. Oh, I'm choking Oh, oh, it's the pressure gets me every time What a bad burst No, they they have a They have a
Starting point is 00:24:25 sort of Judges rule of like yeah if the commentators look and they see you just you're a little too nice with it They can kick you the fuck out. That's it. Like they're like nah, you're too good, you know If I see you running any like predict any any strong-ass OSes, you know You know, I'm gonna I'm gonna raise an eyebrow if you bait every burst I'm gonna raise another eyebrow, and then this guy react and bust out his super in four frames I don't know man But like you can definitely see that people are nice enough to do their full combos, but not nice enough to
Starting point is 00:25:09 Not drop them once every couple of matches, you know, and you're like yeah, that's good. That's good This is what it is man, you know, so that was a fun time and Yeah, I really again shout outs to the the sage am discord over there Go go check them out and if you want to you know, if you want to get yourself tested Right now. That's a healthy-ass thing. It was a 64 man bracket. So lots of players Real fun part of this too is like, you know the healthier the game the more of an interesting Selection you're gonna have right now if you're talking about like a game where people are all too good and you have a hard time jumping in Online and just you know
Starting point is 00:25:54 Getting stomped on this is a dedicated space for people growing and learning and what you sometimes can see is in a Tournament of you know beginning players the high-tier stuff isn't necessarily gonna show up, you know The the high-execution high-tier stuff the happy chaos Stuff, you know, or some of that crazy jack-o stuff. You're not gonna really see that in these brackets It's gonna be a lot more like, you know down to the basics here comes soul here comes Kai here comes Potemkin Who's got some good buttons? Let's see what you can do, you know So, yeah, that was a lot of fun and I think that's up over at I think yeah twitch TV solid bones For the the archives there
Starting point is 00:26:47 So I did that this week Also, I'm as I'm patches behind and rusty as fuck I had to follow the good old Basics of or getting back into commentary rule number one. Don't mention frame data. Don't mention numbers just go oh that looked pretty unsafe And then don't mention any numbers at any point at all Not only do you lose everybody but the people that you're not losing are gonna be super confused and and in fact might be Like you're wrong actually that's plus five now I was about to say the worst part about using numbers is you've opened up a million Variations of being wrong instead of oh, yeah, it was safe. I guess it was yeah, yeah
Starting point is 00:27:37 And I and I've anytime I've been able to do that in in commentary It's because like I'm in tune with a particular version of a game at a moment in time, you know, and I oh Yeah, oh that used to be on set on safe, but actually woolly it's it's safe as of two weeks ago Absolutely that happened a couple of times as we're playing just like oh, yeah after they made these changes or that I'm like Oh wait, that does what now? Yeah, no It's it's you need to dumb it right down. Wow. That was a lot of damage Big combo Wow color commentary. That's that's that's the deal
Starting point is 00:28:15 Yeah speaking of Being displaced in time and and not knowing the latest versions I restarted Hades Well now luckily enough you're now firmly in time It was a very strange thing when that game hit 1.0 Because after like two and a half years of every patch going new character new weapon new nothing It like literally ever since then it's like minor localization change Hmm bug fix for something you don't understand and will never encounter 1.0 really meant it. Hmm that thing was done and ghosted
Starting point is 00:28:58 Yeah, it was it was very interesting going back and kind of like Doing a quick look at you know my old stuff and like I mentioned last week seeing how that got how far that got and like essentially just how just Unprogressable my point was did the first session got back to where I was The limit of where I was at prior which was the minotaur and That yeah took a couple runs wasn't too bad The ability to just get those diamonds and
Starting point is 00:29:36 You know aspects via Titan blood and stuff right away Just the fact that it's like every weapon is free Titan blood to go get an aspect is like yo, that's super handy, you know Yeah, you you have the five to start which means you what you can upgrade one weapon to fucking max right away, so Yeah, that I went I then went back and was playing it a bit more off-stream and Started seeing all the shit that I had never seen right So I don't know when it became a thing, but I definitely I met Thanatos, you know that I'm like, oh shit You know, I was like who the fuck is this what's going on here and then those types of encounters started occurring
Starting point is 00:30:29 You know and then yeah made it to Theseus and and and the the the 2v1 That stuff's interesting. I I I met Was it Perseus No, you're thinking of fucking ah Achilles's boy the guy sitting in the the he the guy unnamed sitting in the
Starting point is 00:30:59 Elysium and then you look at that you look at his profile patrocola's patrocola's that's it. Yes. Yeah Here from a disappointing performance in soul caliber Sure, sure. Yes, I see five And then and then onward You know beat Theseus and the and the Minotaur Made it to sticks Dude Saw that whole top level Theseus isn't that bad once the mat once these starts calling down the
Starting point is 00:31:33 The gods on you, you know, you adjust and such but oh no, I mean, I don't hate Theseus's boss fight Oh him fucking hate Theseus. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah No, it's he's he's a proper douche. He's standing there being all What's his fucking face? Watchman on you The asshole from Watchman, yeah, uh-huh that mmm good The one that looks like these three though, thank you exactly Adrian purple one. Yes, Ozzy Mandeus So so
Starting point is 00:32:24 You yeah, that was interesting and then Basically, I took it all the way to Hades phase two So 99% yeah, that's that's the he I love getting the first time I got to Hades and you fight him and you're like And then he's got death defiance just like you do. Oh for sure. Oh, yeah No for sure for sure. Absolutely, and yeah, and it's a fight with ads that are there not just to annoy you But because you might have an ability that benefits from ads being around, you know Or that I like I've had runs in which I had like a boss killing
Starting point is 00:33:03 Build like every single thing I have is single target murder and then a bunch of ads show up Or you can just focus on your money and then get to the well of Karen and just you know Buy yourself a diamond or buy yourself some Titan blood or some other objects that I can't identify yet But that all came together Fairly quickly. So it's like yeah the I was always wondering is like is it a damage balance? And it's like no, it's not that there's a damage or like like things did change in terms of enemy Aggression and and and that stuff over time, but the real it really cements that's like no, but it's about the rewards you get and you get so many rewards so quickly
Starting point is 00:33:49 Starting from scratch now that yeah, you just blow past a lot of these initial challenges my there's a Downside to that in which I mean, I guess this is the only hope is that people would continue to do the new game pluses aggressively because like there's so much Content in terms of dialogue that I remember like I remember all like the entire time I was putting that time in in the early access and stuff there was new scenes between Hades and Talking to everybody like there's tons of conversation. So you can clarify
Starting point is 00:34:27 something here so First of all one of the reasons that you said like you cruise through the earlier obstacles yet to remember you also knew how to play the game Right from the get go right right right The second thing is that they did a they did Plan for that in terms of beating the game and you you call them new game pluses But the game calls it heat or whatever and that they specifically plan for it Is that beating Hades does not get you credits or an ending right? Okay. Yeah beating Hades a bunch gets you credits in an ending and then after that
Starting point is 00:35:07 Maxing out a bunch of different quests gets you an epilogue. Okay That makes a lot of sense because there's so much dialogue and conversation and lore that like Yeah, in this this time around since I got there so much quicker. I'm like fuck me I know how much is on is still behind this, you know The idea of like missing out on that would be tragic because it's all wonderful. The conversations are so fun For context, I got my the real ending around like run 60 I want to say and then I was on heat 10 or 11 with every weapon
Starting point is 00:35:48 Before I got the epilogue and at that point you're getting all that extra dialogue You're getting all those little bits and pieces to scrape socially with the characters Has a line of dialogue for every enemy me killing you in the entire game Every Like he has ones for you dying of the poison He has multiple for every boss and every variation from that's just hypnos It's silly and then there's the like, you know the just alternating like Almost like persona like hey, this person's not around today, you know, so
Starting point is 00:36:24 Whatever they're either off having a conversation with someone else or you know, but you're just not gonna get to talk to them So Yeah, yeah, but all this and no, it's been super fun going back and you know I'm hoping to Yeah, start fucking seeing a lot of that new Seeing more or more of that new shit But yeah in two sessions. I was able to at least again get to Hades face to and like That is a far cry from the way the game used to feel it is that yeah
Starting point is 00:36:58 It certainly was not like that before, you know, you'd have to have immense amounts of fucking luck The only thing that I'm kind of disappointed about Hades at all. I Kind of wish I know it'd be a nightmare for bug testing, but I wish you could be like I Want to see what version point to Felt like what to go back in the yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah like version one of that game the dash Had no fucking invincibility. It was terrible. Yeah. I like you can't Problem is as you do those version resets and like again Karen goes back to not having a goddamn artwork sprite like yeah You know like you just it's not like going back to championship edition. It's it's a much more incomplete game
Starting point is 00:37:47 Oh, yeah, but for my curiosities standpoint I would love to see because I remember that I remember I was playing it the update that the minotaur came out hmm And like how nuts it was Elysium. Wow. It's huge crazy. Wow. I hate these shield guys They're my most hated enemies in the whole game. I hate them. They're bad There's a yeah, although there's a One of the well upgrades is like do you want the fire wheels to fuck off for like eight encounters? You can do that and they're like, yeah, you know what I kind of do I kind I'm gonna pen I'm gonna spend the money on that So yeah
Starting point is 00:38:24 That's that's that's going good, and I guess I'll you know check back in when when when things are moving further So yeah did that and yeah, that's pretty much it you know so There's the six parts of the initial Return to the game are going up as episodes over on woolly versus you can go check them out. They're coming out now alongside Mass Effect 3
Starting point is 00:38:56 We at Mass Effect curious we just met grunt and his 1992 all-star crow good team nice Fuck yeah, happy to see him Definitely Like I remember hearing or remember our discussions earlier about like oh boy here comes not Rex You know and now that I'm here. I'm like I love not Rex. I'm really glad not Rex is really grunts great Yeah, I was worried that it'd be like oh here's based especially with a name like that
Starting point is 00:39:30 You're like, oh here's the NPC to replace the main character that has died. That's like no no no no no This is a fucking solid-ass new character Loving that So I was a big fan of running into grunt and he's just like He pops off unlike a lot of the rest of the cast who are a little more calm about it And then the fucking game has a little like gotcha by the balls moment, you know, but but yeah grunts a fucking badass and Love him. He's great
Starting point is 00:40:06 So, yeah, that was that was a fun little sequence and Yeah, that's pretty much that So if you want to see more of that go check out Woolly versus and woolly versus the algorithm as well. We got short-strap and highlights and stuff Gonna continue with more mass effect this week just to get ahead of the the the lag that we've had for a little bit And then we're going to start our ff9, which I will confirm
Starting point is 00:40:40 Does have the Moghri mod and such as well. Oh, what's that? What's the Moghri mod? It's the mod that makes it super pretty Oh, yeah, some re-orchestrated music And the cutscenes are upscaled to look a little crisper holy shit Looks great. Looks great. That looks way better. Yep I remember I tried to get that working on ff7 or it's equivalent and I Couldn't because I have seven's PC port is like a rancid pile of shit Yeah, so what they did is they made a lot of the things wide-screen. They made it widescreen. They used AI up to upscale
Starting point is 00:41:19 as well and Again, this is where it's like, you know, do it for good. This is where you can do it for good and There's or re-orchestrated music as well And a couple other little tweaks and and stuff some other people then went and started using that as a basis to do things like get It up to 60, but I took a look and I'm like, I don't like the way the game looks at 60 It it it doesn't it doesn't strike me as an actual improvement. So I'm not doing that version of it Why don't you just interpolate the fucking frames? Yes smear this anime all over the screen But that's like sometimes it's not supposed to mm-hmm
Starting point is 00:41:59 Mm-hmm, and in the meantime, I'm gonna wait for a Nintendo Direct and see if they have anything to say about front-mission 3 So yeah, that's gonna be coming soon keep an eye on that also woolly versus whatever we Just did another one of those so stay tuned And gone in 60 seconds the newest season also is going on as well so yeah, help on over to woolly versus and Click a thing you'll probably you'll probably enjoy it What's going on with you?
Starting point is 00:42:33 Okay, so Last week we were talking about card games, and I briefly mentioned that Marvel snap looked like teppen At which point I was told no No pet you are stupid Marvel snap is nothing like teppen So I downloaded it to see what the fuck it actually was it is in fact nothing like teppen it is actually Literally Gwent okay, it is it is it is you put the cards on the opposite sides
Starting point is 00:43:04 And then the number goes up and the number that win is the better number this timing matter at all Fuck no, okay, you have like a minute and a half to play your turns and that is not teppen. Yeah, I know it's not teppen in fact I would go as far to say That it is anti teppen It is the opposite teppen. It is the mirror teppen. It is the inverted teppen who teppen a game that when I was playing It was like oh man. I fucking love mega man. Oh, I love Jill Valentine. I don't like this On the flip side oh
Starting point is 00:43:47 cool Multiple man who the fuck is multiple man? I don't give a shit right right about multiple man now the gameplay is what you're here for Who the fuck is Angela? Who the fuck is the Marvel character Angela? I don't know, but she's in my deck because that card is really good So now it's like the gameplay is fun and the characters are who gives a shit to you Yeah, so The game is great And it has a lot of things about it that I absolutely adore
Starting point is 00:44:18 Like by far the most of any of the card games that you and I have played But like I'm sitting there and my wife Paige looks over at me and she goes you're playing a Marvel game and I'm like Angela from spawn wait what I'm sorry the edge of the spawn character has been a Marvel character now Oh shit. I know who that is. Yeah, that's fucking Yeah, that's you know, she's got the the wings and the big old pouches and the full-on, you know, yeah, she looks cringe That's the that's that's it's it's everything from the spawn Supporting cast designs they as action figures with with some extra paint on them. They look pretty cool though
Starting point is 00:45:05 So Yeah, the number one thing that draws me to Marvel snap is that cards sorry decks are 12 cards No duplicates It is it is like Do you have blade in your deck? You have one blade? Hmm Blade costs one. He's three powered. He discards somebody. So this has led to a situation In which Pat the deck building anti-Savant. Let's just say
Starting point is 00:45:39 Has been able to go. I want to make a discard deck Okay, I will grab blade. I will grab Angela, I'll grab mr. Sinister. I'll grab Apocalypse etc and I made myself a half decent discard deck That actually totally worked and I was able to play real games with something I have Never been able to do in any card game. You made your own deck Yeah, I've made a bunch of my own decks and I'm and they work It's not a lot. That's that's actually seems like a pretty
Starting point is 00:46:17 Small like it's super small the matches are if you and the other the person you're playing with Are like making moves and you know you take like two three seconds to figure out what you want to do matches are Maybe two hundred seconds long. Hmm. They they are like Instantaneous they are real fucking fast. There's six turns And and that's it and you're done. It's like it's it's like okay ha ha snap But it is in fact actually a snap. It is super super fast It is like when I'm making my coffee in the morning
Starting point is 00:46:57 I play a game of Marvel snap while the coffee is pouring into my cup. Okay, is Snapper reference to Thanos Yes, but it's also the game's most interesting mechanic, which I will get to at the end The other thing is that as you level up your cards, they don't get stronger. They just get nicer so As you earn your currencies and whatnot you go from a regular white bordered card, let's say night crawler to The first upgrade is a green rarity card
Starting point is 00:47:33 In which night crawler expands the character in the center expands past the frame Right then the next one is that it's got that 3d effect that card games on your phone will have where you can kind of look behind it After that they get a shiny logo After that the card is holographic and so on and so forth and upgrading the look of your card is your method of progression and That's the weirdest thing the way that it works is there are five pools of cards Pool number one and two as you go through the games like progression Give you every single card in the first two pools, which is like 350 cards
Starting point is 00:48:21 so like there is a baseline of like 70% of the games cards are like mandatory Yeah, or you go into real matchmaking like the basic sets, right? Yeah, after that you get pool three which is smaller, I think I'm not sure but then pools four and five are listen You can get these cards out of your season pass Or you can get them on a 1% drop rate out of the pack that you earned and So it's this like you have most of the games cards by far like automatically
Starting point is 00:49:02 But then when you're opening up your digital card pack you're fishing for storm So what let's say so Card system design elements aside. What's fun about the actual car like play board? the play board is okay, so The one thing that is similar to tepid is that you have the three lanes Mm-hmm And each lane is a minute is a tiny game of Gwent in which you're placing down
Starting point is 00:49:32 High value cards to have a higher value than the other person in that lane And they have the all the on reveal or ongoing effects that you would expect from say Magic or rune terror or something so night crawler throw him down. He's weak, but you can move him to a different lane if you like Hulk is a as a 12 power card, which is really crazy But onslaught makes anybody in his lane play their effects twice You know stuff like that like basically you're playing three very small games of rune terror or Gwent mm-hmm and The whole thing lasts like literally two minutes long
Starting point is 00:50:19 It is fast it's snappy it's easy to understand and The final mechanic the reason why it's called Marvel snap is at the top of the screen You have the ranking points So turns one to five if you if you if you win You get one ranking point if it goes all the way to the sixth turn it doubles to become two If the opponent retreats and this is this is what brought this up because our last week we we talked about forfeiting, right? Mm-hmm, so Marvel snap if you retreat on the sixth turn Or before that you end up losing less
Starting point is 00:51:02 Right you go your turn five. You're like, oh, I'm definitely gonna lose I might as well run now so that I only get docked one point instead of two It encourages the early forfeit if you want to but on top of that if you are Positive you're gonna win or you feel good about it You can tap it and it will double the ranking points right away And if the other opponent doubles it as well, it will double it again So you end up in situations where I It's it's it's a it's a wide
Starting point is 00:51:36 Range of I'm gonna leave right now. I'm gonna lose this game for sure I am three turns in I haven't been able to play one card poker. I'm out. I'm in I raise I call all in Yeah, yeah, or I'm dead certain I'm gonna win But so are they and now instead you're swinging eight rank points Which is definitely enough to drop me out of silver right now for example, mm-hmm, okay? and it causes situations where I tap it and that causes it to double and then they leave Which even if they retreated because I tapped it. I still get double the points and This is only for ranking
Starting point is 00:52:14 But it actually gives like a concerted real incentive to I Would like to leave. I'm going to lose. I'm not gonna waste everyone's time versus I'm sure I can clutch this out in the sixth turn So rage quitting doesn't exist it's people quitting. It's part of the mechanics. Yeah, it's forfeiting It's actually part of the rules. It's part of the rules. Yeah, that's interesting does When so when you play two cards and they face each other and one wins Does the winning card stay on the field or okay? And then you have to come in and challenge that and work it down. Okay, so
Starting point is 00:52:54 So a really good example. This is lizard. Yeah from spider-man Lizard is costs to which is really cheap, but he's worth five power, which is really strong Unless there are four cards up opposite of him So if you throw lizard down and he's the only guy versus like ant-man or some shit, he's gonna do great but if Your opponent floods their side of thing with cheap cards all of a sudden your lizard is garbage Okay, I can see this being a Fun thing for you
Starting point is 00:53:29 specifically seeing as the decks have so few cards in them because Like teppen has 30 card decks hearthstone has 30 card decks, right and like when you have that type of you has 40 to 60 I learned I don't know what I don't know what magic does, but I assume it's Significant right at the stack you see a pile on the table So it feels like when you have that many the synergies can become really really multi-layered in depth, right? you can fucking go down like five layers of I Guess option selects. I'll call them where you're like I'm gonna put this out and depending on which one of these supplemental things pop up
Starting point is 00:54:10 I'll be able to create a create a different like power, you know a play With the 12 it's bait. It's probably really basic synergies that are like simple easy and like And like helpful to you know, just kind of like that and that bam Let's go and then and and you don't have to probably go too far into Like the third or fourth layer of it because by that point the game is over, you know only have six turns, right? Yeah, that's it right whereas like teppen When you're making plays that are based on if I get to under 10 health I have a whole other set of cards ready for low-life play that I can start using and that's all that's a separate thing to consider
Starting point is 00:54:54 You know So there is another level of synergy or meta or whatever you want to call it That was that's in play that I did not mention that factors into your deck building and that is each lane of The three lanes has a unique effect You see the effect of the left most lane on turn one the second one the middle one on turn two and the third one on turn three Ah, okay, and these Run a wide gamut of effects One is any card you play on this spot will die
Starting point is 00:55:33 For both players will just Yeah, it's neutral. Okay. Okay. Yeah, huh? So you end up in a situation of like well I hope you played a card there before the effects popped Or I hope you have a card you can move There instead of playing it on top of it. Oh, it's not it's not at the same time as the reveal the effect comes in later The effect so some effects happen on the reveal some effects happen Permanently, okay, so like if you for example have a thing or any card you play on this spot dies Any card that's there before you can see what it does will get to stay
Starting point is 00:56:13 It's just cards that are then played onto that effect Okay, we'll die you have ones where every turn that a card lives here Get it will gain one power You have one in which if you have no cards on this spot you get extra mana per turn So there's a little bit of randomness to it Are you are you shuffling through your hand of 12 and picking out your plays or are you? Getting a you're starting with three cards from your deck. Yeah, and then on turn one through six You get one extra card, so you will get
Starting point is 00:56:51 You will get Three plus six you'll get nine of your 12 cards by the end of the game. Okay, you don't actually have a full draw Yeah, okay, okay, which makes There's a there's a card called a character. I think she was in the Doctor Strange movie called America Chevez Yeah, America Chevez. Yeah She is a Okay strong card, but will all wait her its ability is it always comes in on turn six It can't come in on any turn other than six
Starting point is 00:57:23 Okay, and its strength is that it turns a 12 card deck into an 11 card deck for the first five turns, okay Yeah, which means you're almost guaranteed to get all the other stuff that you want. That's it. That's interesting I'm glad this has its own, you know uniqueness to it The the the mace the most unique thing being again that that 12 hand Because yeah, all the other things have been way more in-depth, you know It's so small and the other thing is that they they know they sell variants So there are I have seen I have seen three different night crawlers There's the one that starts the game, which is a pretty standard Marvel art style
Starting point is 00:58:05 There's one that looks like I'm not familiar with artists, but there's one that's like Kingdom come looking thing I know that's a DC property, but like Alex Ross very Like realistic Alex Ross kind of looking night crawler, and then there's one that looks like it's from the Genesis game okay, and One of the ways that they incentivize you Using those variants which you know you buy on the store is that the variants level up separately from the other cards So if I have like a purple night crawler right now if I got the pixel variant of night crawler I could start ranking that thing up
Starting point is 00:58:40 By itself and get further faster, and but it's all aesthetic Yeah, it's all yeah, okay every single there is no change to how a card works ever It is all aesthetic, and there's a lot of aesthetic to it, which is nice So then where is the acquisition of new cards? Play so as you collect cards, and as you upgrade cards aesthetic you raise up what's called a collection level I don't have the numbers Correct off the top of my head, but like the first 280 levels will get you like all the cards in pool one and then
Starting point is 00:59:20 Getting all the cards in pool three. I think as you get up to level 480 something right after that Guaranteed cards leave and instead essentially a card pack is what you would unlock instead Okay, and the card packs have currency or the other currency or a variant for your cards like a like a visual variant or a New card from one of the higher tiers. I have not gotten there yet, but I have been informed that Marvel snap is incredible Right up until you hit level 480 whatever it is Because what happens is is once you have every guaranteed card in the game
Starting point is 01:00:03 It goes okay and throws you into matchmaking with Everybody that has all the guaranteed cards and then some hmm and The rarer cards that you get from that progression of the season pass are much stronger than the guaranteed ones So you're in you're playing and going like boy, I hope I get The good Cyclops card. Yeah good storm card to build around and it kind of goes from like a CCG to like a TCG Right like yeah, so a really good example right now the season passes Savage land and There's a fucking god. I don't somebody in the chat help me the fucking there's a cat That's the cards you get out of the season. It's it's Kazoo could whatever the fuck it is
Starting point is 01:00:53 Zabu Do you know who fucking Zabu the cat from the savage land is I don't know I don't I can't say I do But Zabu is a four-cost card That takes other four-cost cards and removes two costs from them So it takes all the other four-cost cards and turns them into two-cost cards Which means if you play it you get to like flood your fucking like fifth and sixth turn with tons of cheap Super fucking powerful cards That's a really good card
Starting point is 01:01:31 That you can only get right now if you buy the season pass and the way that they do it is that There's cards that live in the season pass and then after a month or two they get kicked down to just being highly highly rare Do you have to pick a deck color or like character? To or is it just like anything goes no anything you can you can fucking do anything, okay? Absolutely, whatever just whatever the fuck And as for the season pass because because it is so Like the being able to play this game long-term is absolutely Highly tied into getting that shit out of the season pass. It's very clear
Starting point is 01:02:24 That is 14 bucks a month every month So that is that is a subscription Uh-huh, uh-huh, uh-huh However, can you pay for it with progress? What's that? Can you pay for it with progress? No Okay
Starting point is 01:02:44 Season passes a is a battle pass Because yeah, well teppen level one is you get the card and levels 29 through sorry Two through 50 are all the other variants currencies bonuses Etc. Okay, the teppen battle pass is you can buy with in-game currency No, the way the way this one works is You earn points towards it no matter what you're doing. It's just you get the paid stuff Yeah, you paid for it. You get the free stuff, right? Don't yeah, the two lanes, right, right, right? Okay, I Um I
Starting point is 01:03:25 Will say for considering how like mandatory Like getting like I'm probably gonna get at least this season just because that stupid cat I'll talk about this later. It's good card, and I'm enjoying myself I've been playing for four days. I'm 31 out of 50 Hmm Like that's fast though, you know they do the weekly thing Yeah, when the the weekly challenges are a huge proportion of XP. Yeah, I'm gonna have no problem hitting 50. Absolutely not um, I actually really really really like I would say love this game, and I'm building my own decks
Starting point is 01:04:06 And I'm having a great time and I understand the way it's monetized and I can be okay with that. There's only one problem for me, and it's a big problem The big fancy card that I'm supposed to be excited to get as part of the savage land I'm sitting here going it's some fucking cat named Zahu. I don't Fucking right who gives a fucking shit Yeah Like I am literally I am I'm dead serious I am literally sitting here playing like 400 matches of this card game
Starting point is 01:04:49 Pretending I'm just using the Marvel characters of a Marvel vs. Capcom You'd I mean I would assume the big savage land reveal would be so wrong, but yeah, he's in there. Yeah um These are somewhere so something to note too, I guess is like When it comes to the ranking system, are you being is it doing like an initial letter grading system? And then into a true ranking or do you know how that's kind of like no it is a number Okay from from day one you are a number. Yeah, it is a number. Okay. It is it is like bronze is like zero to 40 silver is
Starting point is 01:05:29 40 to 80 and so on and so forth. Okay, because I would say like you're especially if at the pace you're going like hit that Like top point and then see how the game changes, right? Once you are Once you start like again hitting these other levels and fight and basically getting dropped into different pools of players These games can change, you know. Oh, yeah tepid certainly does So and like it can get better and or worse You know where you're like you like you said if you get to the point where you're at for the 400 whatever and like you're not Rocking the same
Starting point is 01:06:09 Options that they have at that point. That's not fun But I I've seen some of the the higher tier cards that I will not have access to unless I get lucky They're good. Hmm. They're like build an entire deck Around this card good Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Yeah, so then you run of the thing of like I did what I wanted some tips on how to build a deck and you run into decks for pool one decks for pool two decks for pool three and after that is
Starting point is 01:06:47 You want the long deck? You want the storm deck? You want the? Abomination that you know and so on and so forth Okay, it's where the fuck is sour on in this piece of shit. Yeah, well I mean, hey, there's got to be like this thing is catching on and you know people are addicted to it the way I'm hearing about it. The way not in here. Huh weird. I'm hearing about Marvel snap the way I heard people talking about hearthstone when it first came out, you know, I Want to say there's a reason for that Like a a highly specific reason
Starting point is 01:07:28 Ben Ben brode Ben brode. I believe it's made by hearthstone same same designer. Is that really the case? Yeah, then there you go that Previously he used to be the game director for hearthstone that explains that so it is it's I mean He he so hearthstone was a PC game that hit the phone This is a fucking phone game. This is so much a phone game that on steam It's in early access. Mm-hmm And I was like, what is the hell does that mean? It means when you load it up on steam It just runs a phone emulator and gives you track your mouse around
Starting point is 01:08:13 Yeah, yeah, yeah screen and tells you hey, man the inbox and The season pass interface Don't work On on on steam. It's just I know it's just the inbox But the inbox just does not so if you want to get things like there's a lunar new year thing happening If you want to go get your your rewards from the lunar new year load it up on your phone Yeah, also you got to have your cross-play thing going you're not gonna have I believe it is it is supposed to be like like a rune terror or hearthstone or
Starting point is 01:08:52 Gwent like Fully featured in like completely unique interface kind of thing at some point if you've got a giant fucking roster of You know if you've got an IP with a lot of beloved characters and you know That's that like making a fucking really addictive card game is is a current way to Monetize that shit and do well There's a lot of things you can do with it, but yeah, just pointing at hearthstone and saying hey do one of that for us That's cash and that's it does have a lot of gimmicks that are I'm going to assume
Starting point is 01:09:29 appreciated for people that care But like Nine out of time tens. I'm like why did why does this person do this? so Do you know a fucking balled loser called Vaatu the watcher? Yes, that's the watcher Okay, I don't know who the fuck that is he watches what I do know is that when I put him in my deck I can see what all the lanes are gonna do right away. That makes perfect sense. That should be his ability watu is
Starting point is 01:10:02 Basically the bit the big-headed dude that he's among the race of the watchers and they all the what if comics are like him peering into Alternate realities and going you know like oh, but what if we could look over here and see this version of events That's like I don't know anything about Namor other than he's not Aquaman. Yes, and that he wants to fuck Sue Richards and he did But I do know that if he's the only guy on the lane, he's extra strong Yeah, I assume he's a loner. Yeah, and he's a dick. He's a huge dick Okay, I really Extra don't know who devil dinosaur is. Do you know who the devil dinosaur is?
Starting point is 01:10:46 I can't I can't say I know about devil dinosaur now, but I do know that he has plus two power for every card I kept in my hand He's probably the best card I have right now, and I'm looking at this red t-rex going. I don't know what the fuck is up with this Like I'm torn man, I'm fucking torn. There's some good ones like I get This is reverse arcane Arcane had people going. Oh man. Who's these League of Legends characters? I'm looking at devil dinosaur going I double never want to read a comic book ever again, but they're put it
Starting point is 01:11:28 They're doing polls like that Specifically for the people who are gonna freak the fuck out and pop off when they see that shit You know like sure it could have been the entire cast of phase one of the MCU and then like you know The the cast of the X-Men, but like yeah Somebody just mentioned in the chat that daredevil lets you see the other people play their cards awesome While they're playing them yeah, that's but it but I mean but again remember the end Remember the energy when I come and I go who the fuck is this random background resident evil character? You know and it's just like
Starting point is 01:12:07 Like who the fuck is this I don't know makes me super pissed off Can I can I just can somebody make the the longest most? Illegal mod ever and just replace every single asset in Marvel snap with all the assets in teppen, please I Mean there's so it's crazy They they they've reached in to like all the robot monsters. We've got fucking the X hunters from X to we've got Just your your breath of fire references They're cut deep into the into the Capcom roster, but there's always like eight random fucking humans With golden guns just showing up like and then it's that guy
Starting point is 01:13:05 Yeah, good game you should my I wanted to give it a shot. It's fun. I I Am super mad that they picked the wrong half of Marvel versus Capcom to make this Marvel game with That's how I feel I Mean it's also the thing that's gotten them a ton of money and and you know people that are just Marvel fans looking for An excuse to jump in and can collect the rare shit Okay, well that's pretty funny somebody just sent me a photo of uncle Ben the card
Starting point is 01:13:35 Mm-hmm, which is a one-power card, which if destroyed put spider-man into your hand nice Okay, yeah, that's good if I if I thought all of these fucking references. I'd be like, oh cool, but instead No, you want Billy Cohen, I do Brad vickers And then Brad vickers have a fucking ability in teppin in which you get to remove him He dies Bet he does No, just deal deal to damage to a random enemy unit than explore for ammo
Starting point is 01:14:20 Really? That's his deal. That's his deal That sucks I mean take a pic of the litter though because there's an Enrico Marini and and What about Enrico fucking who the fuck What are we doing here? I don't know what's Enrico do Marvin Brannach? Yeah, Marvin. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. That's his last name. Huh? Yeah, right off. Okay
Starting point is 01:14:52 Yeah, I don't know man That so I will I will say there is actually one it in regards to this There's one really big problem with the game that I'm kind of shocked. They didn't do When you go into the car like the deck builder or the card reader and you click on a character It doesn't even tell you where they're from and in fact has no information about them at all other than their name Okay Like that's a little strange like
Starting point is 01:15:25 Yeah, like if I if I didn't know Cyclops was an X-man yeah on Cyclops I would not know he is an X-man. No the lore bits are are like pretty good like things that should be in there I really liked them in Runescape Not runescape rune Tara when you click on it you get that full little paragraph with the art and shit like yeah I do do that to introduce it um so I'm gonna grab some random fucking loser I can't find it fuck Like I'm going through all these I'm seeing yeah Richard Iken and
Starting point is 01:16:00 Louisa and whatever but there was somebody here that was like one of these characters was a girl that was like Her whole thing as a card is to just die She shows up and she dies and as soon as she dies like Everyone gets powered up Something like that like that iris Yeah, I don't know So I'm look I'm looking at I'm looking at this I'm looking I picked up moon girl I don't know so I don't know who moon girl is and
Starting point is 01:16:28 On the card it says moon girl On reveal duplicate your hand and That's it. I don't know if she's a bit comic bit character from spawn or the star of her own series a Fucking I don't know hmm. I don't have a goddamn idea. It's really weird Oh, yeah, okay Up she hangs out with devil dino and they're getting a cartoon
Starting point is 01:17:11 Excelsior shows up and Fucking then dies or whatever dies in the the back half of our fight the big goo monster Oh Yeah, her okay. I remember who that is now so Excelsior is like the ultimate proof of like Albert Wesker as like asexual because she is like Pawing all over him and like just rubbing her all her bullshit all over him and he's just like you gross Give me more virus juice, please
Starting point is 01:17:50 Well, yeah, but also She's not Re zero girl Yeah Little medic one Rebecca Yeah Isn't that his deal?
Starting point is 01:18:07 Didn't you ever photo he had her high school Basketball photo in his desk, but that's before he became a super freak monster man That shit probably killed his dick Who knows anyways May may be maybe maybe it made him not want it But But You know what I don't I can't even pretend I have no follow-ups. So got it Marvel snap
Starting point is 01:18:42 Yeah, it's fun. When does the actual Thanos snapping happen whenever the fuck you want it, so you can play it on turn one, okay? And it just kills half the cards What no, what is it? No in fact? It's it's fucking cringe. It's fucking cringe when you hit that button woolly Because a man says oh snap Nice great It's fucking cringe. What does it actually do? I? Told you it doubles the ranking points. It's gambling for for your rank. Oh
Starting point is 01:19:18 Okay, okay when you said tap earlier You said okay snap right, but but you're talking about the snap mechanic Yes, it's called snap. Okay. I I was just thinking of you tapping a gun woolly, okay? All right. All right, you you you didn't say what you were tapping all right What else not that much of note other than the fact that me and Paige are still going through DMC and my wife Paige peach saliva is Excelling to her own strengths in a way that is now the most extreme. I've ever seen it
Starting point is 01:20:01 Flying through devil may cry win one Effortlessly almost no hit beating Nello Angelo to sweet like no problem And then not getting the s-rank because she spent maybe 15 minutes not being able to figure out how to leave the room that you fight Nello Angelo to it Seems legit um Yep, go beating Griffin first shot on every encounter Spending Like 20 minutes doing the platforming to get ifrit
Starting point is 01:20:42 Don't know what's going on. Yeah, if there's if there's something to be killed the woman can't be stopped any attempt at navigation or Moving the character around or Solving a child's puzzle. Well, there's just complete disaster. There's souls games on the resume there. So that's combat wise That's absolute preparedness, but that camera is not gonna Forgive you, you know, it's been a bit since I went back to DMC one and since the since we played it Yeah, that camera is pretty bad
Starting point is 01:21:22 It's pretty bad made for a different genre She she she had a moment you remember um in the sewers You fight that scissor guy the super strong scissor guy in that tiny electrified room where you can do the rolling Yeah, yeah, yeah She got fucking super pissed and that was easily the hardest time and she has that moment that we all have or it's like I Don't want to come off like I'm shitting all over the game I Understands that it's me doing it and like me and everybody else like no no that that camera is fucking dog shit
Starting point is 01:21:56 Yep, the bad camera. Yep. No, that's the no, that's the game on that one Did you did you walk did you do the hokey pokey at the wrong spot of the map? Yeah And a follow-up so one of the one of the reasons so we're doing page may cry on my channel And the reason for that is because page has a long history of beating Uh Difficult bosses that you would think are out of her depth and then not being able to pick up objects for weeks because she's annihilated her wrists She'll like she'll hard
Starting point is 01:22:35 She'll white knuckle it so hard that her her like tendons will snap and her bones will break and catch on fire So we're playing it on my channel so that if I could get the inkling that that's happening I can just slap the controller out of her hand and be like no no more Okay, hasn't happened yet Actually DMC is somehow much more relaxing than Bandetta wouldn't have thought that because I figured Bandetta would be easier with the dodge button No, because it was also born in a time when the APM increased right don't forget that the APM of one Compared to three is fucking night and day
Starting point is 01:23:12 Yeah, so I was Talking about it, and I was talking to hitchhiker known DMC modern man Because if we continue DMC three four and five have lots of mash inputs in particular DMC three has Relatively stringent mash inputs to get a bunch of the moves out So hitchhiker went and created a custom steam input controller profile nice specifically To get around the mash inputs. I put up a thread on Twitter on how you can recreate it
Starting point is 01:23:50 It's really simple Everything works exactly as you would expect But if you double tap square or triangle or circle and then hold it It will mash it at 100 times a second turbo and like initiated Yeah turbo is turned on by double tapping the button So I said, okay, let's see how this works and played a couple missions of DMC three and was like oh wow I Never want to now This yeah because this makes this makes a bunch of stuff
Starting point is 01:24:27 Silence much much more comfortable. It makes doing Agni and Rudra's mash Trivial it makes me in stab DMC it makes it so that when I was playing DMC five with this control scheme I could like rapid-fire summon swords without having to worry about accidentally Fucking doing the the the meter version of summon swords. I could just shoot it like a gun That's pretty good. That's a good ass mod Excellent and all you do is you add an extra command to the button that you want and then you put it to turbo And then you make it so that the original button is not interruptible Which is basically like bold cancels and in Marvel
Starting point is 01:25:11 Yeah, okay, yes No, I got nothing Nothing for you, but like I might want to actually fucking play Gunslinger now because it knows everybody and Ivory's moves and Gunslinger are a Pain though the way that they made Dante's moveset fit into him as a Marvel character is by adding when you double tap after certain input it Switches to a different move. Oh my god. Yeah, cuz he's got so many goddamn Exactly, so they they did they they're called bold cancels and you basically just do this and double tap it and you get
Starting point is 01:25:43 Another Dante weapon because he has fucking all of them Cool, that's how much that asks and I will do it. I will retweet that thread Fucking somewhere and last but not least I watched the Puss in Boots movie. Oh shit Not yet That is a fucking great movie. Yep. Yep. Yep. Have you seen it? No, but I can feel it and I'm gonna I'm gonna get to it There's so much to like about it It's it's I mean, it's the the writing quality of something like Shrek. Mm-hmm, which is great The animation is in places just as good as spider-verse
Starting point is 01:26:31 But better than that is It has like the two strongest villains Animated movie. Yep years and years. So everybody knows about the wolf Yeah, how the wolf is is a fucking character action boss. Yep Fuck him who cares Fucking Jack Horner The fucking freaky looking big guy with the pink hair that you may have seen Haven't seen him yet. Yeah, great the best villain in an animated film. Okay
Starting point is 01:27:07 he is a Evil man that loves being evil and That's it. You know that archetype one of like I love that I am the villain of a story and I will shoot children and poison like Kefka Yes, yes storybook evil. Yeah. Yeah of absurd pettiness. Mm-hmm evil for evil's sake. Oh, it's it's the best. It's the best Love it. Good movie. Yeah, I was really excited about that Gonna try to get that Taken care of soon
Starting point is 01:27:44 There's only one problem with it and it's a problem that I've been having with Everything I watch on Netflix as well as watching the x-files and now puss in boots So a lot of characters in puss in boots speak Spanish Yeah, I'm translated as what I hear. Yeah, so you know what I really don't like when I have the subtitles on and They're referring to a character by a Spanish nickname. I Really don't like it when the the subtitles go hey there and then bracket speaks in Spanish. Yeah Yeah, so I saw a couple of screenshots of that
Starting point is 01:28:29 That is a deliberate decision that they want to be like you either you pick it up or you don't I guess Like they wanted it to just kind of cut like it was an it was a it was a deliberate decision for them to go about it that way like almost like Untranslated 4-coma fucking the side text and shit like that So with x-files and you know, there's some Russians talking evil Russian fucking alien experiments Speaks in Russian. I get it. You're not supposed to actually know the thing talking the thing right the beginning of the fucking thing Swedish cuz I right in puss in boots
Starting point is 01:29:08 There's the dog, you know the cute little dog character that you might have seen he doesn't have a name and This is this subtitling thing makes it really confusing because I don't speak Spanish and Puss in Boots refers to him what I now know to be the Spanish word for little dog Like just you know, it's a generic term but not knowing that and Just having the subtitle be translated to speaks in Spanish literally every single time they talk to this character The I don't have a name plot makes no sense because they're calling him by what I thought his fucking name was the whole movie
Starting point is 01:29:49 But it actually just means little dog. Yeah, so it's the it's the word Piero. Okay in in Spanish And they're like, oh, I don't have a name chin up Piero. I'm like that you just called him a fucking name What is that? I had to add that page explain it to me Because I don't know what the fuck I don't speak Spanish Fucking translate it. It doesn't make any fucking sense. Well, maybe you don't assume it's Piero then That sounds like a name But that's still It's a leap you got it's not a far leap, but you're still making one
Starting point is 01:30:30 You know in French, that's a name. It is a name in French. Yes, Piero We like I don't like it. I don't like because you're listening But we're listening because you're listening to like the sounds and you're trying to parse the sounds and it's like you the speaker Are you don't but you're like hold on but I know some sounds So I think I know what those sounds are and it turns out you didn't but like, you know So you're you're putting a thing based on you grabbing what you can from the sounds it but you're not understanding the context of it I
Starting point is 01:31:06 Like I understand you saying it's a deliberate decision. I Hate it in every time I encounter it if I have subtitles on I Want all the dialogue to be subtitled? Because I mean like if you were watching something where like there was someone who like they were doing again the bit of the for plot reasons you're doing here the the Swedish thing and in the thing and someone just picked up the phone and it would just be like Obasan whatever whatever and it just be like you're like, oh, yeah, that he's calling that lady. Her name's obasan and it's like well No, but like they're doing there. So what I would expect to see in subtitles is
Starting point is 01:31:49 Grandma Hello blah blah blah. I would not expect to see the phrase translated as speaking Japanese Hey, how are you? okay, I Can't say Furious, I can't say without seeing the context of it But I know that like as we gave with the the the thing example Sometimes it's warranted. I sometimes that you can creatively choose to not translate something and it makes sense
Starting point is 01:32:15 I'd have to see how it works in this case This this is actually there's there's the opposite problem Which is just funny where you see some where you see the subtitle and the subtitle is like muttering incoherently or Whispering discreetly, but you can totally hear what's being said. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, absolutely for sure for sure Or like that's it for me in video games when you walk into a room and then a paragraph of a conversation is happening But you're not anywhere near the people that are talking. Yeah, I think I think it's it's I Think it's it's it's annoying and strange
Starting point is 01:32:57 But when you when you're playing a game and the full subtitling comes up and you're like there's no one here Mm-hmm You just happen to be within the 30-foot radius of a person in a different room and their subtitles kicked on like that's a problem That happens all the time in like New Vegas or Or Skyrim or oblivion all those games like wait wait who where who is that unique to video games as a medium? And and of course the responses stand still let it play out and then walk forward lest you interrupt anything interesting, you know Fuck yeah, post some boots. Hell yeah, I love that. I love that one out of nowhere. It's just like wait. What why okay? banger
Starting point is 01:33:40 Cool gotta do that I'm excited for what the the movie seems to set up that there will be a another Shrek movie in the near future I am I one would have to imagine that the Shrek franchise is far from over Everybody involved loves collecting paychecks. I Yeah, yeah, I got a pee Yeah, I also have to go the cat shit himself, so I'm gonna have to help clean that up I might be a little bit longer than normal on break fair enough See you soon
Starting point is 01:34:16 All right You would be astonished at how strong a 14 year old 11 pound cat can be It just took me and Paige to give that cat a a a little bath because he is He is strong as shit No, I remember long ago. I saw some footage on real TV of A cat that didn't want to go in a box and it wrapped itself around an officer's leg and it death gripped him and It was like it looked like the jaws of life had snapped down on his leg. It was insane
Starting point is 01:34:59 Well wasn't wasn't so much that so much as him just going And just trying to get out of the bathtub So that was a one person hold him the other washed the elderly cats, but With the with the water and soap cat is clean fucking pissed off, but clean Does um is Yeah, like the the someone was really did recently describing how it's like you never know what you're gonna get but like in a Lot of cases you can have a dog. That's like loving the water loves the shower as long as it's like a comforting
Starting point is 01:35:40 Sort of massage experience for them But yeah, some cats like the bath this cat getting the cat to like the bath isn't yeah. Yeah, okay Yeah, weirdly enough the dog is like we got him a kiddie pool a couple months ago to like oh, it's the summer You can cool off in the kiddie pool terrified water Terrified water which makes it which like is appropriate because bulldogs can't swim Like at all right. Yeah, they just sink. They just fall right to the bottom of the ocean. Yeah, that makes it but I Was like oh the dog can lay down in the water. It'll be cool. No doesn't want to fuck it Might just go face first into like an inch of water
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Starting point is 01:42:07 Thank you factor And I think Yeah, that's it All right, what's going on? China's fucking mad at Blizzard like real mad like wow fucking super mad But also Blizzard is mad at China, too so and result is
Starting point is 01:42:33 Of course the fucking tantrum in the video game business that I've never seen in my life Overwatch Diablo 3 Hearthstone and World of Warcraft are going offline in China probably forever Yeah, they're um, they're they're fucking dead doesn't seem like they can they can Get the like they it's it's escalated to a point where it's a giant news story at this point and Jesus Christ if this article would stop bothering me I'd be able to get to it But essentially it's been having what some kind of regulatory issue with publishing in China
Starting point is 01:43:10 NetEase has always been their local partner because you have to work with a local partner in China for publishing. Yeah, and they've always had a Collaboration contract that they would agree to you know, whatever terms business-wise to you know, whatever cuts get made or you know So on to Blizzard says here take our game do this and localize and then They handle it For whatever reason They cannot come to that agreement this time around the time has come to renew the contract and
Starting point is 01:43:49 According to both sides discussions have fallen apart So I went and looked into like what is the specifics of it falling apart and it appears to be that Blizzard doesn't really want to work with NetEase But they gave NetEase like oh will extend the current contract by six months, but that's very clearly just to give Blizzard the time to find a different publisher and Just kind of use NetEase as like a like a stepping stone to go work with somebody else Also, I imagine to avoid having the games go down. Yeah, and NetEase does not care for that So they torpedoed all agreements everything's going down
Starting point is 01:44:38 But then they decided that they Man NetEase knows how to burn a fucking bridge Because they took all the Blizzard merchandise including some gigantic statue and Just live streamed themselves destroying it with sledgehammers Yeah, this is the way a corporate partnership dissolves Between America and China then what's kind of wild is that there is a branch of Blizzard called Blizzard China You know and they too are like involved in the contract extension and trying to figure out how to handle this stuff
Starting point is 01:45:24 and I guess the NetEase is doing a good job NetEase's president says one day when what has happened behind the scenes What has happened behind the scenes could be told Developers and gamers will have a whole new level of understanding of how much damage a jerk can make So there's a bonus so at the live event in which they were destroying all the Blizzard pop property that they had They were handing out Green tea smoothies to everyone Which I had to be explained to what the significance was
Starting point is 01:46:04 Green tea is something that you call somebody who pretends to be nice But it's actually secretly a massive fucking piece of shit. No, it means a two-faced nice person Okay, so they're giving out Blizzard green teas to just really really salt the earth on it well, I imagine that The deactivation of the servers and such from Blizzard's perspective the Blizzard China is probably gonna just find that new partner and see if they can Get themselves up and running again, but Yeah scorched fucking earth with NetEase then
Starting point is 01:46:46 so You know, what's really interesting? so Blizzard put this massive amount of resources and dev time into Overwatch to Chinese market it's gonna open up. We're gonna make a shit-zillion dollars and We're seeing this now There's no way they didn't know or see about this a while ago that uh-oh the Chinese market isn't working out the way it was supposed to right And now they're trying to get bought by Microsoft
Starting point is 01:47:21 Like it feels Like they wanted they saw that happening and they wanted to get bought by Microsoft Before it all fell apart for this. Yeah. Yeah but the FTC like Like slowing the deal down at least Has made it so that like yeah, no that shit fell apart like way before the deal got done and Your games being killed entirely in a massive economic region Probably is called for re-evaluation of some of that deal
Starting point is 01:47:58 You know feels like a real I'm changing the deal Pray I do not alter it further Kind of situation or at least like the inspection of the goods upon the initial acquisition Terms has changed. You know, this was supposed to come with one world of Warcraft in China. Yep, and now Now there's a statue in pieces Being handed to us in a box Also, there's there's there's like all sorts of varying little pieces to this sure there's the human element where there's people going, you know
Starting point is 01:48:36 Now that these games have gone down I have to say I haven't been really giving my wife enough time So now that the world of Warcraft is gone. I would like to make amends says someone who was an addict that was playing many hours a day There's there's there's little human stories of people going. Oh The the game is down and the outside world the light is piercing there. There is also the element of this is now the second video game related business venture into the Chinese market that has like
Starting point is 01:49:10 Gone disastrous due to a change in fortune the first of which being a hololive with with all that fucking Nonsense over Taiwan But my favorite little my favorite little tiny piece of this story is The trailer that came out four days ago for tar island What have you no, what is that? Oh, I'm a fucking idiot. It's called Terrace land Sorry explain what is what what what what what is that?
Starting point is 01:49:50 Here it's it's an MMO coming out from China from a Chinese developer Called loke j y games It's the next gen MMO for mobile and PC which I am now going to post a link to you will a so you can skim it for literally Four or five seconds when you get to it This was announced and the trailer dropped
Starting point is 01:50:24 simultaneous to wow Being kicked out of China, which is great timing Because this is the most blatant Chinese clone of anything I ever seen Tar island or terrace land It's just literally fucking World Warcraft made by China by China It's it's it's just World Warcraft. It is it is It is just Chinese World Warcraft You gotta wonder if like are these things like
Starting point is 01:50:58 They're they're in development at some point, but is it just like I now's the time to pull the trigger Yes, this is going on. You know exactly what it is. We had this ready and waiting Yeah, I think they were looking at like when to put this out Yeah, and then oh fucking blizzard's dead Fucking put it out right now. No this armor style of these weapons somebody who plays MMOs Right. I've played a lot of World of Warcraft back in the day I play a lot of 14 and I've dabbled in most of them. I would tell you that every Single thing in that trailer is stolen from something else
Starting point is 01:51:36 Damn like it it's as Don't care dude. They don't It is as specific as the AOE Indicators on the floor are the same shade of orange as the ones. Oh the little boxes. Yeah, okay Oh 14 same shade not just wow Okay like China doesn't give a fuck not never won
Starting point is 01:52:05 not Damn, dude, that's crazy. You made this I made this Give a shit That being said yeah, this game looks cool Yeah, there's an egg the extra layer that is like we are there's there's the we're just copying it layer Which is what we've all known, but this is a we copied it years ago, and we've been waiting to just press the button We've been waiting for the original to get kicked out of the country to just do our to get our started so that we can be the direct replacement Yeah, yeah, yeah
Starting point is 01:52:44 Incredible So what I'm expecting is for this game to look pretty looks pretty it has interesting Sure Have cool action combat like Black Desert and The worst interface you have ever seen in your fucking life I don't know how familiar you are with Korean MMOs and Chinese MMOs But it's always like wow look at this cool action combat Every menu makes you want to kill yourself. I've heard worse. I've heard
Starting point is 01:53:24 And does that also go hand in hand with like The most obscene grinding ratios and levels that like are Asking you to stop being human to accomplish anything not necessarily it can go either way, okay? I think the what I think that ironically enough. I think the worst MMO grind I Have ever encountered or seen was for a game called a wild star was that Korean? I'm not sure Wild star MMO wild star is dead. It was an NC soft game. Oh, yeah, then Harbine Studios
Starting point is 01:54:06 Wildstar had like a a a fucking 28 Step process to unlock the raid That was like grind this out now attuned to this now attuned to that now fucking go get it was like I saw a chart of it once and it was the most disgusting thing I've ever seen in my fucking life It's awful well um in a situation where You know Chinese players no longer have an alternative The fuck you gonna do fucking talk to your wife
Starting point is 01:54:44 gross sign the fuck up Um Like it could you I can imagine just to like hey by the way just use your your your battle. Net login. Don't worry about Just hey guys, it's okay. We got you Wait, when did we shh shh? Don't worry about it. Oh, okay. Well, there it is It's all right there They knew weird. Hmm. I Guess that's pretty convenient
Starting point is 01:55:18 Anyway, yeah Yeah, so like I gotta say this is like the most stolen in a while I've seen a lot of stolen Chinese shit in video games This trailer is even down to the the fucking Like point of like looking like one of wow's first trailers Hmm like the specific vistas they're running through or like whist are vistas from like wow original back in 2004 The biggest the most recent fucking rip I can think of was that thing that advertised at TGA's
Starting point is 01:56:01 That was not gangbeasts My god party animals. Yeah, not gangbeasts like That was the most blatant thing. I think I'd I I I can recall seeing recently Shameless I forgot this trailer had not murlocs in it They're little fish guys, but they're not murlocs guys Well, anyway Yeah, I again like the situation where they're like we knew this might happen. Let's go. Let's let's fucking You know, I'm sure having no alternative
Starting point is 01:56:50 Having a rip off will will do just fine. I think But situation in which they did not know this was gonna happen And we're sitting on this wow clone and getting ready to show it off and this just happening to coincide I can only imagine how fucking stoked everyone in that office would be Mm-hmm. Our only competitor the thing we ripped off is now banned Fuck yeah, they smashed the statue just to roll in their own slightly Different legally distinct version of the same character
Starting point is 01:57:28 Like we just we rolled in the new statue and we have the different. I think yeah, I think blizzard Everything to do with blizzard is the funniest copyright thing ever in its whole history Warcraft is supposed to be war hammer. Mm-hmm Warcraft one was actually war hammer and fucking games workshop backed out Which gave lizard the ability to make a legally distinct Massive ripoff of the entire games workshop catalog forever. Mm-hmm, which fucking oops and then I will open One of my six mouths and sing the song that ends the earth right and then
Starting point is 01:58:10 this this shit like like every single fucking Person and their mom stole Wow's art style Yes Like that became the look of PC fantasy Yeah, and now and now just like you know just kicked out and directly stolen and then on top of that my favorite version is Warcraft characters based off of war hammer characters in Jota
Starting point is 01:58:43 being turned blue Or or having a hat added to them so that they're now valve characters God damn it man Yeah, like I Whatever like if you just if you're down with the idea of a character and you're just happy to see the idea represented Then so be it man. Hey, it's karate gi man. Happy to see you. Can you do the punch skeleton King dude? It's the Wraith King totally different Yeah, if I again as somebody I care a lot about like the fucking design and concept and aesthetics and art such shit
Starting point is 01:59:33 So like that bothers me way more than I imagine a lot of people if you're someone that's just like okay Mechanically does it do exactly what the other thing did okay? Well fuck off. We're doing it. Yeah, it's scratches in it I think my favorite run-around variation of this is heroes of the storm comes out and Leoric the Isn't it and Leoric is a big skeleton man that comes back to life when he dies and People like yo, this is just a rip off of Wraith King from Dota Who's a big spirit man who comes back to life when he dies? Who is the copyright legally distinct version of the skeleton King Leoric in
Starting point is 02:00:16 Warcraft 3 Dota and Like we get all the way that the part the people who made the character are putting the character out and be like this is just a rip off And it's like well, that's how Warhammer felt when blizzard it's like oh my god All right, it's fucking hilarious other stuff So Yeah, we'll see what happens if Blizzard China gets their stuff going with a different company and then now it's it's actually a fucking a battle We're Blizzard China. We're putting out World of Warcraft. No, there's no relation to Blizzard in
Starting point is 02:01:02 California so When we first got to take a look at Marissa Manon And JP in Street Fighter there were a bunch of really badly played matches that were showing off the Dynamic mode that was like hey, that's you know cool to show the feature off I suppose but anyone who's trying to figure out what the fuck these characters do and how they work in the game
Starting point is 02:01:31 Had a really hard time Figuring it out because it was just jumping and doing the same button Look, I did a I did a sweep. Yeah Like it's like showing off a new character and showing off that hey We have a whole new control system that is like encouraging button mashing Don't do that at the same time, please because I think Like we're hungry for information just use the ones we know and then look how the system works and makes things happen Don't don't reveal them and then go here do some mashing and that's how you really common problem with fighting games
Starting point is 02:02:02 Where they go? Hey, here's your first new look at new character in a fighting game played by a comedian and an 80-year-old woman Yeah Yeah, and now and listen as one of the people who played Strive early and was like my gameplay was going to be judged as like the you know part of the like Assessment of what this game would be like I me and Octo Pimp did our Kai versus Potemkin set at back at Arc Revo super early So I spent the three fucking days Doing everything I could to make sure that like at what as a scrub
Starting point is 02:02:41 I want to just represent some ideas of what this character does and do some shit. That's kind of cool. You know It Yeah, it like if you're anyways the point was is that we had three matches that were kind of worthless to go off of Unfortunately when it came to information for those new characters They have since rectified that with some match footage of Devs playing DJ versus Dalsim Manon versus Marissa I didn't see the DJ Dalsim one and JP versus Blanka and They're fucking great fights because people that know what they're doing make the characters look exciting and show off some shit
Starting point is 02:03:20 That is really fun About Street Fighter 6 There's also a new meter. That's like hanging out Under there's a new little thing for some characters. That's hanging out under the life bar there not quite sure What's going on stars? There's there's the little Little asterix is what was it? I think those are just like placeholder names Was it
Starting point is 02:03:51 Because there's the there's the unique character systems and then oh no not these flagged videos. Ah shit. Oh Was it just I gotta say people uploading like 10-second clips of Some events footage only to have their channels killed by Capcom To upload like the exact same footage. Yeah one day later is silly as hell Extremely, I mean I again I have to assume they have a company that's fucking out there being cap cops about the whole thing But anyway, okay, so if that was just their name placeholder then yeah, never mind. I was I was being silly but um there there's
Starting point is 02:04:34 So you can see most excitingly in the Marissa versus Manon match like the Absolute fucking beast that is Marissa with her theme Her theme song is the fighting style that Yuri and and Gil use which is pancrateon, right? You can just get a look and see what is going on damage wise Holy shit, man She gets a crumple at one point with a dash a drive impact and then moves in does a charged
Starting point is 02:05:07 Gladius which is the the double punch and that does like a solid 33 percent She then Rushes up to Manon gets in her face and like does the counter which is the Scoot them I think it's called it's the it's a statue of like Basically like like the first like Greek wrestling You know and it's this particular pose of like one guy standing over another with the foot over the head in a punch About to come straight down. She does that shit and Again another like 20 percent clean off of a bad guess on a counter
Starting point is 02:05:48 Yeah, so everything about Marissa is like hey, I like to play big characters, right? Usually that's a grappler, but I also like to play big characters that are just big And bully the screen beef. Yep. Yep. Yeah, Marissa bullies the screen Unbelievably normals armor on all her ex and she's just she's coming for you, you know and Yeah, also a down-down input for her her main move. This is the weirdest But then of course we get to see some of Manon stuff Manon can do some basically invincible
Starting point is 02:06:28 dashing up grabs that just like just straight forward and you're growing your got so Manon is gonna be fucking chucking people left and right She's got some decent range as well with her insanely long legs fancier able I Mean I wouldn't even go for the able at this point. I'm not we're just we're taking that entirely out of the equation She is a grapple dancer and her grapples not only do they have invincibility and range But they get better as you land them. So each time you do one. That's what's happening Oh, man her meta system goes up and as and as it increases the next grab does more and the next grab does even more
Starting point is 02:07:09 So, oh, that's a great way to make grabs scarier the more they happen Consistently getting terrifying they get worse and worse. So Yeah, that's that's what she's got going on and then one of the just Fucking you want to look at the style and grace man Marissa lands her level three and It is it is the non-critical art version. So you don't see the follow-up, but at least the initial one just one big fucking Business punch, right and to the wall you go and then the slow and like you immediately You're crumpled off the wall you're splattered and she's walking up fist up like smoke coming off of it
Starting point is 02:07:55 And you start cornered, you know So like you take a fuck you take like yeah 40% and one hit clean off of that thing And then you're waking up in the corner where just a little tiny taste of aghanos like not creating a wall But forcing the we're taking you to it, you know our SNK boss syndrome even you know Take him to the wall or anyone who brings you to the wall as a boss except for Oswald It's so fucking good. It's so stylish. I saw somebody compare Marissa to Ralph and I think that actually makes perfect sense a bit of that when it comes to you know If you're using galactic of phantoms and you're you got fast or charged versions
Starting point is 02:08:39 Yeah, but she's also just gonna you know break drive impacts and you know force you to stop and Address her her speech. He's gonna be Abigail Right. Yeah Tons of fun with that very cool And then of course that classic wind pose, you know, who will help me carry him? He was a soldier of Rome You know just that beautiful pickup man. Yeah, I'm so glad we got this better footage We got to take a look at the
Starting point is 02:09:14 Blanca versus JP match and that had some fun stuff some stuff that I like Fucking weird JP is is gonna fill the screen with shit and you're gonna be dealing with it So he is a street a screen pollution character firmly He is a he is a blaze blue character. Sure that has found his way into Street Fighter. Yep. He's got a Projectile is that are hitting you low hitting you mid hitting you overhead. He's got a projectile that is an unblockable command grab He's got projectiles. What does that mean? What does that mean? Okay, so JP's move list consists of So far he's got ballerogs dashing straight
Starting point is 02:10:00 But it's bison as a stand swiping at you and he's got ballerogs dashing low But it's ball, but it's bison is doing a stand swipe and then he's got ballerogs overhead smash so but as a projectile and You have to fucking play the game of high low with Zoning on top of it, but there's a shorter range version that comes out a bit slower and is just not blockable at all And if you get hit by that you get hit by it. It's a dashing projectile grab That's just silly as fuck. Yes. That is that is new 13 So found her way into fucking Street Fighter and furthermore while all of that is is happening
Starting point is 02:10:46 He can also put little Cracks in the reality and the cracks will after a certain amount of time attack you by themselves He can snap his fingers to make it instant or he can teleport to the crack So get get a little left right going as you're dealing with the other bullshit on screen. He's gonna be fucking stupid He's gonna be an annoying ass problem. Make no mistake and In the meantime Blanka is doing what Blanka does and so we got to just see what you expect
Starting point is 02:11:19 But a little bit more information so the the key takeaway is one his little hop-forward animation looks pretty cool And it's fast and it's a very like oh shit. He's in my face. So I like that There was a moment where He you oh well first of all you can do ex blank a ball to go through projectiles. So I'm happy that's I Really wanted that to be the case always been a fun answer and then There's a point where JP got hit with a punish counter blank a ball
Starting point is 02:11:52 So he was in the middle of doing something big the ball knocked him on the ground and he was in a roll a tumbling state Right, which lets you kind of land an on-the-ground hit. So What we see is Blanka do a full-screen blank a ball Knocks JP to the ground. He starts rolling and then Blanka does a drive rush into slide From full-screen and it hits It looks so silly, but it works and it and mechanically it's like yeah punish counter OTG use the meter get in it get it in It absolutely comboed and I was like we're in it. We're here to play
Starting point is 02:12:33 Zoners beware, you know It also looks as well like the little blank a chance that he gets don't seem to replenish He seems like you get four for the course of the match The match. Yeah, okay, or five for that matter I Overrounds the number did not go back up. So that's what the state of blank a chance is it is a use them wisely over all three rounds and Yeah, you know, that's kind of what we saw from that
Starting point is 02:13:07 Oh, we also got to see his level two Because in the demo so far level one was shout of earth right stomps the ground level three was he hits you into the air and just does a big electric rolling ball on you the level two is his Old V trigger two which is called lightning beast and that's the one where after doing a rolling ball on hitter on block He can do another aerial one in all eight directions. Oh, right. Okay. I remember that Yeah, and you can basically almost like ride the lightning with Kai you can pick which of which direction to go in and do like a Second or a third one, you know, and if you're really good
Starting point is 02:13:46 You can go all the way up into the air left right up left right up down and get many in a row until you spend the whole meter the tailbane Beast cannon combos essentially from dark stalkers So, yeah, that was really informative as well fun to see that was his best thing in five that they gave him So him getting that back is not surprising so I'm looking at the the man now motorist a fight in And one of the things you mentioned we were talking about Blanca ball. Sorry the little Blanca chance. I wanted to check
Starting point is 02:14:22 Yeah, uh Manon's meter for having the good throws is also over the course of the match Man you get tossed in round one a couple times and round three you're still gonna be afraid Yeah, yeah, there you go over the course of the match interesting, you know because Kimberly has to search for her her, you know Her sprays as you go You know stuff like that could be limited However, they want it to but in this case it seems like they're like no no no this is for the whole set Okay, well
Starting point is 02:15:01 So that's gonna be a thing is characters that above over the sense Sure sure You know multiple characters that are getting stronger or weaker over the course of the entire match And then we got to see a DJ versus Dalsim and that was really fun because you know Dalsim has been an evolving character over the years We've seen him go through a bunch and now he's just like the again this crazy version of that has like all the tools
Starting point is 02:15:29 They they they all the new things they gave him from for and forward, you know yoga mummy and and fucking high tower and Yoga yoga flames that have different arcs and stuff like that He's got all of that while I'm watching the footage and he's doing teleport into tick-throw DJ is drastically different now And this we could kind of tell from some of the earlier footage, but watching it in a full match It's like okay. Yeah, they want to make him at distinct from guile, right? so
Starting point is 02:16:03 His fireballs max out like you have light punch doing a fake version fireball and Medium and heavy both do a double fireball like King double Fucking revocans, you know here then I'm strike of dev It's kind of a massive commitment to Like throw out two fireballs like that if you're getting jumped in on but if you space properly, it's amazing zoning You know, it also means that in you know Fireball versus fireball or sonic boom versus sonic boom
Starting point is 02:16:39 Assuming everybody's just throwing out their normal one. He wins. He's gonna win. Yes every exchange. Yes, DJ wins the fireball war By default unless you fucking space close to him and and or spend meter to get through. Yeah, but then you're gonna spend meter to Even out yeah, and if he exes and he has two ex fireballs that are both higher in strength Then you're losing again, you know, it is it is strange to be looking at DJ and look at like the game's fireball king Well, I don't think so I think what that does is it allows him to keep up with guile because guile is unquestionably the fireball king With the way you can do sonic blade into sonic ex boom The amount of durability and speed on that is unchallengeable, but DJ with two ex fireballs can probably challenge it
Starting point is 02:17:32 Right So that's fun fake fireballs are also really really strong in fighting games Anyone that can do that and make you react or jump can blow you the fuck up. So that's fun for him And yeah, his new see his new move sequence just cool It was just a stylish little back sway into follow-ups, you know, it adds a little stank on his moves and DJ just looks like a fucking interesting character also his double
Starting point is 02:18:03 Rolling so bat is now a Hadoken motion instead of a charge motion Well, that's a big change. So he's got some stuff that is not even gonna require him to hold down back, you know, yeah, interesting I Recently found out too. We've been calling it rolling so bot as the name of the move from guile and in Street Fighter and in fighting games in general Terry Bogart does one too, but yeah It's it's that's how they like Listed it as on the move list and like early Street Fighter, but it's actually called a savate. It's like a type of kick and I want to say it's a Portuguese name or so and it was just like
Starting point is 02:18:48 Savate into Japanese became so bot And so now we've been saying rolling so bad for years, but it's supposed to be savate Yeah, well It's too late now. It's French. Excuse me. Yes, it's it's from the a French kickboxing thing true. Thank you It's it's too late way too late now Cool, so yeah, if you wanted to get a better look at those characters and what their moves were like and how they really played Check out those dev matches And if you wanted to just simp on Marissa go watch that level three
Starting point is 02:19:25 She fucking stands in front of you looking down as you're on your knees like just taking her in You know like they know what they're doing. They know what they're doing when are they going to show my dog in the game They're waiting man, they're waiting also camey, I guess That too camey leaked out like camey was like the first character to leak Yeah, a bunch of footage so then it's camey But when is my dog sangy if going to be in the game? But the longer they wait to reveal camey the more comics we get of jury shitting on her for not getting announced yet, so Every time I see these characters getting all like
Starting point is 02:20:08 So I see Marissa, sorry numbers I see Manon get a mechanic where her command grabs get stronger every time she does them That's a crazy mechanic to give to a grappler and now my brain goes what nightmare shit are they giving Zangief? Like seriously yeah, you you piece by piece have to Build the USSR back and once you complete the full map one command grab wins the round You the glass nost system. I'm just I'm just thinking I'm like the You know Clark's fucking Argentine backbreaker mm-hmm and how it has a version that just tanks a hit Yep, and just does the as of as of 13 and 12. Yeah
Starting point is 02:21:04 Yeah, that doesn't Really have a precedent in Street Fighter a whole lot Yeah, there's saying he's running bear grab. Yeah Bear grab does that but then in five as well the the the muscle armor walking, you know could set up situations What if he what if he just had a hit of armor on certain versions of the SPD? Look just one just one jab worth the armor. He's gonna get something and you're going to like it Yeah, but I don't know what it is. They need to tell me what it is though He's also gonna continue to have combo into command grab which is of that's that's the the world now
Starting point is 02:21:48 We live in a world of press buttons and end in an SPD That's a weird world Can I get green hand back? I'll take green hand back instead of all that other fancy shit I just green hand is an install that stays active for a short while, but it lets you do a green hand Well, you know, I'm just thinking you know, it'd be a good super for Gief is Not it can't be mech as angry because he's not gonna be a robot, but like armor like the the fucking
Starting point is 02:22:17 Armored state. Yeah, well, they they should have a button for Zangief where when you hit it you win the match Yeah, there you go I was gonna say ultra armor like breaks games in ways that like we don't even finish that sentence because you know nonsense, but We'll see. Um, I think I think though the fact that they're holding back his even reveal at all means like Something insane is coming. Like he's probably we saw like the design, but like gameplay wise. I they're gonna go crazy I don't know. Anyway Good shit over there Okay, what else is going on if it'll be possible to like mod him to like have a horrible dog face
Starting point is 02:23:04 or like Take the the the bear outfit on his back where he wears the bear hat hood and just put it turned it into a dog hood for sure for sure No question. They've already put like Fucking Maria Rose into the game as a modded character. You can do anything The fucking the fucking shadow the hedgehog girl. No, no the one from that are alive That's not That's not lucky Chloe
Starting point is 02:23:36 Oh, right, okay Marie Rose. Yeah So you said Maria Rose my brain created a combination of Maria and Amy Rose Well, the other one Anyway It is my pleasure to congratulate War Thunder On being the first video game to be classified as a risk on a background check Because as we continue to follow this story There have been many more instances of exposed security threats on War Thunder frames once again so many that it's suspicious
Starting point is 02:24:20 Because it can't just be people arguing for clout. It must be actual leaking For people that want to get leaks because it's kind of like it. It's starting to lose all semblance of Cromulants here, but someone posted in War Thunder Congrats guys. We did it a friend of mine got a job at Raytheon and as a part of security clearance A PI has to investigate the person to call up witnesses and friends and so on. I was on a contact list I got a call asking basic questions like would they overthrow the government or crazy shit like that and Then he was asked does he play War Thunder? War Thunder is now officially a risk to national security
Starting point is 02:25:05 I Saw people talking about this on that thread saying that it may in fact actually hurt recruitment for these types of places because People that get people that sign up for the army people that sign up for defense contractors a lot of them are massive fucking military nerds absolutely You're passionate about this shit Hey, do you play this thing that is the reason why you would want to join up? No Well, really, it's like can you control your passions to not argue to the point where you're releasing documents
Starting point is 02:25:52 No, no No, I can't You know that it's like that's that's what it comes down to like maybe we can use your your powers but also we need to like leash your account and and Monitor your posts on the War Thunder forums It's insane But here we are because yeah that has brought I want to say the count up to 11
Starting point is 02:26:20 Yeah, I'm just thinking of some CIA operative being yelled at by his boss because he Went and argued on a forum that James Bond isn't realistic because we would actually do this That's like you can't tell people we did that but I won the argument sir You you have exposed a war crime. You need to you're in the box now Yeah, we're up to 17 different security leaks as of today She's The last I heard was 11. Yeah, that was like a couple days ago my mistake
Starting point is 02:27:01 How dare I reset the clock? Okay I feel bad for the devs for that game because like every time this happens They they like get into this weird situation where they have to try and unhear it because they can't apply any of it because then they're like Trading on like foreign secrets or something Cuz it's like stressful But because I just imagine like for every genre there is this right the pinnacle of The simulation where people on forums for flight simulator are arguing about real plane parts
Starting point is 02:27:39 People on the forums for project cars are arguing about the way the engines work in real vehicles I'm certain you know, but It never like how often does it overlap with stuff that is like not just like a corporate secret, but Like straight up like a military thing You know, like it's just if this is the ultimate if war Thunder represents the end of where all war simulation people end up like this Like is there also an equivalent on some other like Countries forums where the biggest war nerds are leaking their documents for their country, you know, man
Starting point is 02:28:24 I can just see like there's a bunch of Russian operatives just currently caught shit posting in the war Thunder forums about How fucking lame and overpowered American anti-tank weapons are Just hoping somebody goes actually they're bullshit. They don't work if you do this It's fucking do remember golden. I remember Boris. I do it's fucking Boris on the other end of the computer I am invincible. Just like yeah, absolute stupid just like omni geek Fucking nerd to the end that just can't control it
Starting point is 02:29:06 Yeah, anyways, God bless. We'll keep that of the watch on the war Thunder security risk as we go on Couple other things were announced. How about this one fucking the radio silence Has been broken grand blue fantasy versus rising has been announced The reason why there was no rollback and anything else at last evo is because they're announcing a full-on follow-up game Yep, and the follow-up game Needs rollback to power its fall guys spinoff. There you go. So new features include cross-play fuck. Yeah rollback enhanced graphics new story content new stages and characters a new mechanic called ultimate skills and
Starting point is 02:30:00 Fucking fall guys mode Inside of the little online lobbies So there you go array Good We got breaking news as of 30 minutes ago Adult swim will be continuing Rick and Morty without Rick or Morty Wow
Starting point is 02:30:25 Okay What does that mean? I don't know it just means that Justin Royland will not be a part of that show going forward They have locked their tweet about it. They are not taking questions at this time What the fuck does this mean Everyone everyone's reaction is the same on social media, which is like, okay. Yeah, I get it I get why because Justin Royland was all that creepy shit and whatnot, but But how literally literally how so it's just the rest of the family the Jerry show It's just the part L's time to show it's the Jerry show
Starting point is 02:31:15 That's it. No, it's gonna be Dan Harmon's clone incest Show Wow You know what I you know what I would really respect a lot, you know what I would really respect a lot If the seventh season opens up with Rick and Morty sitting in a chair just just sitting there watching TV and Then they just both get shot in yeah. Yeah. Yeah, yeah And then go gurgle and then it just smashed cuts to oh, you know, I fixed our throat smarty, but uh, Didn't work right so now we sound like like archer
Starting point is 02:32:03 We sound like archer like a job Just like a spawned John Benjamin. Oh Oh, okay, sure I guess I mean like I imagine that's fucking wild news. I'm really surprised. That's the road But at the same time, I don't know where those shows are or How what they're at I right now they're at a lot of incest well, I could imagine I can imagine that Massive reformula or massive switch up wouldn't couldn't be the worst thing in the world
Starting point is 02:32:46 From the outside perspective looking in But also it's the world where you can do anything and it can get away with it. So yeah, I Guess it's just gonna become something else then Huh Okay Rose and somebody rose and literally a giant incest baby named Naruto and I can't tell if that's real. Yeah, it is. I saw the episode where that oh it is. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah All right. Okay, fine
Starting point is 02:33:21 Yeah, Roseanne is dead now the Connors live on Here we go Okay, I had a really good fucking follow-up, but go go for it I saw I saw I saw the strangest tick-tock and I had to go check but I couldn't get much Experience I couldn't get much answer on it And it was just this dude doing the weirdest fan cam that was yo sasuke's been fighting this dinosaur for like a week What is going on? To what I have to ask
Starting point is 02:34:06 Why is sasuke fighting of a loss a raptor for? weeks now I couldn't fucking hazard a guess, but I'm going to I'm gonna say because Boruto and time fuckery are a thing Boruto involves time fuckery as well as the true space race evils coming into into play So perhaps There is there is sasuke being dropped into various times trying to fight his way home. I
Starting point is 02:34:42 I Saw folks talking about that Boruto has apparently gone off the rails. I Saw the the the idea floated that it has gone so far off the rails That apparently it is not an uncommon Like ask that they just have everyone wake up out of the infinite Tsukiyomi again I Mean and just be like yeah, none of that happened Look the formula is pretty clear at this point if you're this far in you don't care about things making sense
Starting point is 02:35:25 You just care that there's another big villain that was truly behind the last one all along and that fighting that will Get you your your latest power-up. That's all that needs to happen like You're already this far in Why would you continue to complain about these things that it never had to begin with? Cuz it's fun It's more fun to complain You know anyone who's left in that audience is like you deserve what you get Like this is there's no way around it. Anyway, I was talking to say speaking of fucking things that ought to be cancelled
Starting point is 02:36:07 Uh-huh Netflix says they have never cancelled a successful show They should have fucking spontaneously Combusted as they uttered that so there was a sit-down interview with Some of the the execs since the CEO and they've been talking about You know how their policies have you know been poorly received in terms of shows getting re-upped and such and Here's what they had to say
Starting point is 02:36:42 We've never cancelled a successful show a lot of these shows were well-intended But talked to a very small audience on a big budget The key is for you to be able to talk to a small audience on a small budget and a large audience on a large budget If you do that you can do that forever Um So I don't know how to even respond to that because it's just an outright lie Well, the thing that immediately gets asked is what is your metric for success, right? What do you what how do you read those numbers and what are the numbers for a given budget that you that you mark as oh?
Starting point is 02:37:22 Yeah, this is good or this is not There are some things that you know, you can only just assume okay behind the scenes You guys say that it didn't hit this whatever bet benchmark and that's your your cancellation point for something fine, but like What about the part where you guys did a shitty job in your release structure for a show? What about the part where Netflix itself released something in a way that had zero chance for it to be a success? Hey, woolly if you all you guys buy the umbrella Chronicles will make another Resident Evil 4 type game on the Wii You only bought two million of it
Starting point is 02:38:03 bitches Here's another light gun shooter you fucking idiots devil may cry for needs 13 million copies sold to be considered a success We only hit nine what a failure. I believe it is in fact actually sold 13 million now sure but like Yeah, special edition is a whole other thing for sure Capcom's like Cuz we're talking about you know Netflix, but like in terms of games Capcom's like the worst right like Like you they would they would publicly say the numbers and you'd be like That you lost your fucking mind. Well in devil may cries case it was like
Starting point is 02:38:45 The the failure number is the number that is the highest the franchise has ever seen Right more copies than and then all the shit beforehand You highs but oh below our benchmark. There's one worse dead space Dead space one sold two million dead space two. I want to say sold five million So they said the dead space three has to sell like eleven million Which is five million the first two games combined Meanwhile Okami
Starting point is 02:39:24 Legendary fucking game that Cracked a fucking a staggering 80k on release and Then went on to move sub sub 300 K Internationally or something like that. I want to say 80k in Japan 300 worldwide Or the only reason is available Reported to to we and then again to HD to steam The only reason I know that anyone bought Okami is because I bought it and I saw myself buy it Sure, that's the only proof that I have I bought the remake or the re-release to just to be like yeah
Starting point is 02:40:11 I own that game ever on every yeah release it has ever released on just as a vote like fucking absolutely I Don't know how but with numbers like that it got you know Yeah, anyway, so they go on to go on to talk about the the the way that Netflix works and shit, but What I know I like the rest of it is also just like fart huffing Yeah, let's all have a talk about how what you just said is a massive lie without being able to say hey, you're a liar Fucking idiots. Yeah, so fun stuff over there Anyways
Starting point is 02:41:03 If you are Yeah, if you've been been tracking the the the latest and creepy ass streamer technology Oh, I have and video broadcasts can now artificially maintain eye contact so For anybody who wants to always be looking at the camera, which I don't I Specifically don't because when I decide to it's a conscious decision that makes way more emphasis in the moment Like watching the video version of this podcast. I'm kind of looking around. Yeah, I'm gonna make my point to go And you feel that shit we emphasize a point when I look at the camera, but anyway
Starting point is 02:41:48 There's tech where you can have AI basically scan and replace your retinas so that they always lock on to the camera And if they look around elsewhere, they'll kind of move in a they'll twitch in a natural kind of way But then continue to lock on to the camera The usage of course is mainly if you need to read, you know, if you have like Q cards or something elsewhere But you want to not a hat give that appearance That's the most obvious benefit. I can imagine secondary I'm I could see anybody who you know would want it for disability reasons as well, you know, but
Starting point is 02:42:28 That's not that's not the though like those are legitimate use cases. Yes. However, that's not why it was made It was made. Hey everyone. Look, you can maintain eye contact with your chat a hundred percent of the time and look like a Freak who's staring at the people in the audience instead of playing the game power social up Could be could be I My first my first inclination is towards the for the former reasoning but um
Starting point is 02:43:06 Yeah, we're we're getting there. In fact, we're already there. I mean, I saw that and I saw another thing recently where they're like Here's the tech for doing a face lip Basically like 3d reconstruction of a face in a movie and then you do like a deep fake for just their lips So that when they switch languages or censored, they can do this the same good reason for that Yeah, the same tech you use to make The Kingdom Hearts have different lip syncing You know You they're using that in live action now to like replace like censored versions of mouth flaps or or
Starting point is 02:43:44 To sound different languages. So yeah, I also saw the gentleman showing it off Put his hand close to his face at which point his eye started to Teleport around a little bit it clicked over and then it clicked back into place um this uh This is like The AI art thing reaching into like streaming of like look you don't have to do this. It's like This isn't this wasn't a problem to be solved
Starting point is 02:44:21 Again for the two for the two use cases I mentioned, you know, it can that can be useful To have that button, but it's gonna get weird. It's gonna get real weird real quick um Like you want to you want to fucking give me a AI filter to use? Let me let me fucking scan my body in and fucking Put a dummy in my chair. Yeah. Yeah, and then be able to talk from far away and have the dummy so I can just lie down in the bed Or just phone in pretend that I'm here just call in on your phone and and have the whole thing simulated I I would turn that on for a full stream
Starting point is 02:45:02 Just to see how creeped out people would get by it because I assure you pretty creeped out. Yeah Give it 10 15 minutes. Maybe even 30 you get really weird Especially when I start playing and I'm actively paying attention to the game and commenting on it But I'm staring right at you, but I don't break eye contact that'd get really flying through these menus while I Lock eyes with you. It would be so fucking weird It's it's massively uncomfortable. I know you don't want it. You really really really don't want it Anyway, like so here's here's the thing here's the thing, right? So eye contacts really important to face-to-face discussion, right?
Starting point is 02:45:43 Some people don't particularly care for eye contact like one of the symptoms of autism is that you you struggle with eye contact Or it's it's somewhat uncomfortable and there's like other stuff as well I don't think anyone wants If talking to anybody wants a hundred percent Locked eye contact for several hours insanity. I don't think anybody wants that Like people with issues want that
Starting point is 02:46:15 um No, it is it is insanely confrontational And most people are comfortable seeing Like streams where people are at an angle to some degree or where you're looking down at a screen or looking around or whatever It's just it's a little more natural. You know, you know what? I'm gonna call this the bulldog problem Are you familiar with bulldogs? I mentioned it in the past but you probably forgot bulldogs have a unique form of eye contact to dogs What's that bulldogs stare
Starting point is 02:46:46 Bulldogs make eye contact For extremely long periods of time They don't have the the dog thing that eye contact means like aggression They just stare at you My dog will stare into my eyes For minutes and minutes and minutes and it's very cute, but it also makes him look like a psycho Other dogs hate it
Starting point is 02:47:14 Bulldogs often do not get along with regular dogs Because the bulldog will just stare into the dog's eyes Unblinking for multiple minutes and that's a sign of aggression. Yeah. Yeah Oh damn, okay I can only imagine talking to somebody who's like big eyes opened at me for an hour Get away from me What are you doing?
Starting point is 02:47:43 No, there's there's people I know that that do that as a like A trained sort of like almost like a politicians trained to like Maintain that eye contact to make you make sure you feel heard You know like a social behavior thing like there's people that do that That'll lock in extra hard and be like, uh-huh. I'm listening to you. Yes. I'm affirming what you're saying And yeah, I tend to I'll be honest
Starting point is 02:48:10 I tend to do that because when I listen to people I used to be like dead ass silence Okay, okay, and it looked it looked like I was not paying attention. So I was like, all right. I'm just gonna agree with every fourth or fifth thing that they say If I am agreeing for real sure right sure that they know I'm still listening But uh, it gets really weird when you're just like whites of the eyes the whole time Um, exactly can't wait for the tech to drop can't wait to try it out Um
Starting point is 02:48:49 And then When you're really feeling it you can try out the latest update that comes right after the eye contact Uh, the high banter setting Oh You can uh, you can drag that way up to the top and Just be like damn these quips
Starting point is 02:49:13 These quips are rolling in They they I feel like I feel like there's actually a lot to talk about this despite the fat. So we're talking about for spoken Yeah, it's actually gotten a more like nuanced as time has gone gone on I feel because for spoken demo came out plus the Embargo went up for the people who were uh journalists who were playing the full copies So people are talking about their full impressions of the game and something that's been Been coming in pretty consistently has been game. It's pretty fun
Starting point is 02:49:46 Um, the magic stuff is stylish albeit a little bit basic in that you're just doing like you know avatar element bending But everyone's like the combat's cool That's the the weed and esque speak in the In the in the trailers and such is happening a bunch of course It does lighten up and it does like Start there are instances of it being less egregious as time goes on Especially once the plot gets rolling
Starting point is 02:50:14 But there is tons of moments of it where you're going to do the eye roll And you're going to kind of cringe out a bit and the clips that have been shared around have been a mixture of Ones that i'm like, you know what that's not that bad. That's fine And then some that are just like to shut the fuck up is actually decent right right That's it, you know, and then there's the ones where it's like just the i'm really doing it. I'm well, you know Wow, I know my god I did it which has then elicited the counterpoints where some people are saying hey man If you were a real person just like, you know, suddenly given powers you would have some people wildermint as well
Starting point is 02:50:51 That's like, yes, I wouldn't repeat that phrase 10 times And it was and there's exactly there's there's ways to go about it I suppose, you know, you wouldn't be as non-plus as a Zagreus would be certainly But this has become the entire uh meme of this game because of how much Of the the weed and esk dialogue There is
Starting point is 02:51:13 so There's two things one is like people are other the sentiment came out of like you can turn the banter and gameplay down with this feature Uh to which point most people were like that's stupid that doesn't fix the dialogue That you judge a game based on his default settings Right like this is the amount of dialogue they want you to hear and also doesn't change the um The cutscenes right that's just the in gameplay banter But the other thing I saw somebody make the point uh because people and you mentioned as well You called it the weedening the weedened weedened dialogue weed nest that started to like flood everything around when adventures came out
Starting point is 02:51:53 And uh, I saw the point made that it's weeden it was a symptom Of the larger problem And the larger problem is punch up Is hey There's not enough in this that's genuine or sincere or interesting enough To actually Be its own story. I mean we got to get somebody in there to punch it up make it snappy moment to moment So I it's even I'd say it is punch up. It's even simpler than that. It's holy fuck guardians blew up
Starting point is 02:52:27 What's the formula? 60 comedy make that 65 comedy, right? And um It's it's like we've had our scenes because the the uh phase one Think about the early thor movies. There were jokes. There weren't many Yeah So right the comparison the person made was guardians and Thor 2 Dark worlds or two was not punched up at all And you get to see what a marvel movie without marvel quips and it looks like and it's Cat dennings is the joke character. She does all the jokes for the rest of the cast
Starting point is 02:53:05 You know, um And so the thing about it, of course is early on and and I've said it every time because I'm somebody who loved that kind of fun Dialogue when it was rare early on when it was the I found the quips to be charming and like, oh, yeah, okay people acting like You know the the sarcastic people we know in real life or whatever and being witty um You know when characters aren't when it stood out as a as something a little more unique now when you over saturate
Starting point is 02:53:36 You get to the point where we are seeing it non-stop And it's also just like nothing can actually be taken for real or sincerely Because everything must be like Dismissed emotionally, you know with this type of tone you run into this problem um When i'm reading about the intro to forsaken um Or forespoken
Starting point is 02:53:57 um Fuck Anyway, uh, I the setting involves the main character. I believe like Going through a suicide attempt Right it seems like that's uh like a part of the intro is like her like You know getting whisked away like uh from like a world of extreme just you know, uh like Darkness and such um
Starting point is 02:54:29 No, am I crazy on that? I thought she got hit by a truck and then went to the isekai. All right. Hold on. I read um Jean's article on it And um, did you read it carefully? I read it before we went live. So admittedly no I will I will I'll straight up cop to that. I did not read it carefully Um I'm not i'm gonna lie i'm gonna go look it up right now
Starting point is 02:55:00 Oh Fuck it's not forsaken. It's forespoken Uh playing as fray. You're a 21 year old orphan new yorker who loves her cat and kicks Performed by the very capable and charismatic ella balinska She's had a very difficult life and the game doesn't shy away from the fact that fray is suicidal. This is what i'm making reference to Okay. Yeah, but it doesn't that doesn't say that As she's about to end her. Oh, there we go. What what read the rest of it. Yeah, there it is There's a tenderness in how she cradles her cat and he cries herself to sleep unable to escape a merciless life
Starting point is 02:55:33 That left her homeless and with a criminal record as she's about to enter life She finds a magical and sassy cuff that whisks her away What the what seems why am I being fucking? What are you guys talking about? Well, her name is fray Did everyone just start like Going in on something that they didn't actually know and then we got to this place where we're like, what the fuck will he raw? God, all right. Anyways, so that Being the case
Starting point is 02:56:08 I can imagine There being a tone To the story that could be interesting where you know, someone who's like at their lowest low is now experiencing some wild new shit and and it just Those cutscenes now look even fucking weirder now. Who needs suicide? I've got magic powers so so what I was trying to say is the the tone of somebody from that place
Starting point is 02:56:37 Going into like a whole new world and getting I guess Finding motivation and and things to love again and such and getting picked up could be an interesting thing You know, if you wrote if you wrote it things in that way um But that would need to be a subtle Gradual build from that point I feel to really underline that that sense of wonder you'd get from Having these powers and shit when you're in such a dark place in life, you know
Starting point is 02:57:06 um to go straight to 11 on the The the sarcasm train, uh again, I haven't seen this myself But just it seems it seems like it could be tonally dissonant with a moment like that occurring It does seem that way That seems that all that dialogue that I've seen now seems super weird With this with this this background detail This game seems fucking weird Yeah, I I I I I'm looking at
Starting point is 02:57:40 Uh at chat expecting an answer here, but I don't think that's gonna be the way to do this. So anyway, um, yeah, that's uh that's kind of what's been going on with the discussion about it and It also feels as well that this is just unfortunate timing with the the amount they've done here too because I I if this came out like 12 years ago people would have still made fun of it for this over the top level of uh weed nesk dialogue, but It wouldn't have been like the first and foremost thing about the game uh
Starting point is 02:58:16 Because now the discussion of people doing compilations of that just happened in mcu movies is Mainstream You know, I don't know. I think the only reason anyone is talking about this game at all is because of its weird cringe dialogue Because it is the only thing I have seen anyone talk about this It is it is the standout thing It is in fact the standout thing and the the marketing didn't do it any favors by introducing it that way and then Doubling down as the gameplay goes but everyone talking about the
Starting point is 02:58:49 The actual combat and stuff Has been saying like yo it's pretty fun, right? The parkouring and the switching to between the spells and it takes a while to get all of the abilities But once you have them all of that flows into a combat system that while you've seen it done before Ends up being pretty enjoyable, right? So it might have just Gone by, you know, maybe not the wayside, but gone by as like a okay cool. That's a that's a fun little thing Wild when you consider like Agni's philosophy, you know in the history of that as a whole
Starting point is 02:59:23 Because like Tech demo doesn't equal compelling full-sized game You know what will a Maybe we're just out of touch Maybe that's how the kids talk now. Maybe we're out of time It's possible. We're just out of touch If you are a youth You can you can let us know if it is in fact just because we are out of touch
Starting point is 02:59:51 You're out of touch You're out of time um well Anyways in the meantime, I look forward to seeing Uh, which forespoken scenes are not as bad And uh We'll hear about that
Starting point is 03:00:16 Um But yeah, you know this game just looks like they wanted to do ff 15 again But have a real celebrity tie in To this is a celebrity Well, I mean not huge huge name not quite a sama nosuke To your only musha, you know or or so, but she was a fish. It was a person before that that was known I'm sure she was. I'm sure everyone who would say thing was a person at some point Um actor. Yeah
Starting point is 03:00:57 Wait is this game at ff 15 Uh, no, but combat wise apparently it is reminiscent. Yeah Okay, so Okay All right And then hey if any of you gross fuckers out there is able to get your hands on One of the 750 bottles of mountain dew's baha blast hot sauce You have an obligation and a duty to crack that shit open and write a review
Starting point is 03:01:25 Okay They're making baha blast hot sauce because nothing is sacred Hey, uh Do you want to hear my review of a controller that I haven't used or bought? Mm-hmm The playstation 5 dual sense edge Controller that costs 302 canadian dollars has a battery life of three and a half to four hours. Let's fucking go Fucking cancel that purchase. Yeah
Starting point is 03:02:01 Fuck that That is absurd. I'm so desperate. Apparently it comes with a really long charging cable I I keep my shit plugged in 90 of the time and I'm so desperate for a dual sense. That's like not Uh, that's more resilient that I might just bite the bullet and keep it plugged in It's probably not more resilient, but that's my big worry Okay, um fucking Jesus christ guys with that. I hate it because
Starting point is 03:02:35 Like I said, it's a good ass controller when it's when it's working, you know Would literally not even be able to get through one stream on that Maybe that price will come down or something. Um, that's insane Uh, all right, let's take some letters Hey, if you want to send in a letter send it to castle super beast mail at gmail.com. That's castle super beast mail at gmail.com Um, yeah ragnarok64 says you've been using the hall effect Dear macro mancer and biohazard, er
Starting point is 03:03:12 Uh, you remarked last week on how excited you were for the nixie wizard the gamecube style controller with no drift magnetic sticks As those seem to have sold out immediately I figured I'd let you know that while it appears to be the only gamecube style controller for switch with magnetic hall effect Uh, joysticks. It is not the only hall effect controller for the switch Uh, there's others like the eight bit dough ultimate bluetooth controller and so on um Might be worth looking into
Starting point is 03:03:42 But actually you have used this before Uh, you might not have realized it, but the dreamcast controller that sega Used back in the day Solved the issue in the late nineties of drift by using the hall effect sensor inside the dreamcast controller Meaning that for all its foibles drickstift was likely not an issue that would affect it Also, it means there's really no excuse for any other hardware manufacturers to still be using potential meter based sticks That can suffer from drift 20 years later Just thought about this little note being it's ahead of its time the dreamcast continues to be super interesting
Starting point is 03:04:19 That's wild This makes a ton of sense now because of all the dreamcasts and replacements that i've i've had and fixed and such There are many old controllers where the dreamcast stick will not be centered It'll have a little wobble to it But it didn't actually cause input to be fucked up when you plugged it in Yeah, it was it was off center physically, but it started centered normally anyways So what you're saying is that in the process of testing and developing the dreamcast controller They realized that if you played with it for more than 10 minutes
Starting point is 03:04:57 The fucking analog stick would wobble out and become a piece of fucking dog Shit, so they were like we should probably put in a sensor that lets us keep this being the shittiest piece of plastic You're ever likely to put your hands on Actually, uh, I think what he was saying is that the Sticks at the time were all pretty bad and fall away to drift over time But using that tech you avoid that problem and that nobody else did what they did and they should have because then we wouldn't have this problem today I think he said what I said If the good controllers used hall
Starting point is 03:05:35 Technology and they had that nope non-potentiometer solution. We wouldn't have any drift whatsoever Yeah, um, I'm gonna reiterate dreamcast controller bad Sure stick tech good But it could have been worse I guess it could have been worse uh here Isaac from texas says good afternoon mr. Stersat and mr. Versus Uh long time listener started medical school the past year. You're one of the only podcasts. I make time for thank you Had a pretty solid understanding of biology and anatomy till now until a few months ago
Starting point is 03:06:17 But I was 27 years old when I learned that the ovaries and fallopian tubes are just kind of open to the abdominal cavity Artist depictions don't really do it justice. The ovaries are kind of like a volleyball Beton pass of those eggs straight into the tubes when they're ready While rare you could have an egg erroneously implant in the abdominal wall With the other organs that shit shook me What are some bodily facts that you learned way later than you would have wanted to that just blew your mind? I learned that by a fucking tick tock Like fucking six months ago that if you have like
Starting point is 03:06:55 Adominal surgery, you know like big surgery And you know you got to get to your kidneys or whatever, right? They got to pull your organs out like your guts And just flop them to the side to get at it And then when they when they're done with that they can just kind of put them in wherever Because your body will just sort it itself Like a c-section
Starting point is 03:07:20 Yeah, yeah You just put them just put them back in there. They'll figure it out. Damn Just drop it back in the hole shake them up That's crazy. So when I when I heard that suddenly The reality of like instruments and sponges being left in people Makes much more sense Because it's not a care. Oh, we gotta put this back a formal process
Starting point is 03:07:45 It's like yeah, no just take your arm and just scoop the whole fucking thing back in Like you're wiping crumbs off the counter Um I mean If you were to go back a couple, you know 100 years and you'd been split open by a sword And you were holding your shit together and you had no time to organize it No, but the fact that you you didn't have to worry about where it went was probably a potential lifesaver If you could hold it together until something got to you
Starting point is 03:08:18 Just kind of mash it back in there. Nice. It's good Um, I I guess recently learned uh, because there was a new birth in in the family that Congrats Yeah cousin that um The I thought that like you do the whole snip of the um umbolical cord and then like Both ends are completely severed and then you they do the little surgery to tie the baby
Starting point is 03:08:46 I as an innie or an outie or whatever um But I didn't know that they leave like a whole tail on the baby That actually has to just hang out for a couple days and then hang off Fall off on its own They falls off by itself. Yeah, but they cut it long like I thought they cut it to the tip and do like a balloon knot And tie that shit tight So when I and then the bonus is that you want to keep that
Starting point is 03:09:10 Right And then you want to keep that for its sick ass good baby blood. Yeah and for later Sure, you can eat it or you can use it as as an experimental, um stem cell thing mm-hmm No, I just saw the pictures of it like with the baby and the baby had it and it was just rotting off and I was like, oh That's Right, that's a thing. I guess I just assumed it was normal and then later on I was like, is this normal and it's like, yeah
Starting point is 03:09:39 Yeah, no, that's that's what the umbolical cord process. I'm like, I didn't know they cut it so long and just let it drop off There must be a reason not to go straight to the Tip and just get rid of it right away I don't know. I mean it's part of their body at that point, right? Like it's not technically vestigial yet But I guess the falling off process is cleaner than the snipping and heal I don't know babies are fucked up man. We we're not done
Starting point is 03:10:07 When you're born, you're not done. You're done like a couple months later Um are stupid big brains got to come out half-baked There you go. Um, okay. Let's take another quick one. Uh No name given hello pat and woolly just wanted to thank you both My brothers and I loved dmc one back in the day when it came out had a blast beating the game on every difficulty Had the strategy guide and everything then dmc two happened and we were so disappointed that I actively ignored three and four Thinking that the original game was a fluke It wouldn't be until your lp's that I finally gave three and four a chance
Starting point is 03:10:49 I can't believe I missed out on two amazing video games for 13 years because two let me down so badly Thanks for introducing me to three and four and letting me realize that they were in fact very good Yeah, but that rules though. Yeah, because you get to just go and be like they're you get to just oh There's three. There's the two games and then the sequel just bang bang boom. So here's the problem friend video games are That go on as franchises sometimes you have to check back in Sometimes you got to stick your head back in the door just to be like what's going on I missed that one. That was terrible
Starting point is 03:11:23 But did they get their shit together because sometimes they get their shit together a little later on You know, I would wonder I would really wonder if this person plays sports video games because Like video games routinely improve. They're the only medium In which the newer thing is a routine improvement on the older thing Asterisk Unless you play fucking sports games
Starting point is 03:11:53 Sports games get worse every year Um, I would 95. I would argue anything that is annualized Is a toss-up because the king of fighters franchise is not an upwards bar Um, there are highs and lows And you see what they can do under pressure in 12 months in many cases. They iterate a fresh start into a good product in three but like, uh Anything that has 12 months to pop out its next version Is not going to be a guaranteed improvement over the last one
Starting point is 03:12:28 I Just I mentioned 95 and I saw somebody man say nba peaked in 2013 I'm like man nba peaked in the mid 90s with shut up and jam And then that peaked again in the early aughts With nba street. Yo jam hangtime Street You're good Nba on nbc if you really want to get some, you know, if you want to throw that in there, too
Starting point is 03:13:00 But it's like, yeah, I just I'm like I went into the fucking play, uh, you know, I was doing the um the stupid wrestling bit Uh For the for the show and like playing 2k 2 2k 2 2 wwe and just seeing how abysmal that shit was and then an announcement for the next one just dropped and it's like I Feel sorry for everybody who's paying for a roster update Because that's all it really is. You know, hold on a second
Starting point is 03:13:32 nba street volume two when did that come out that came out in Uh, that came out the year I finished high school 2003. So that would be 20 years from now You can tell an adult That basketball games haven't been good since before they were a sperm That's that's how dire sports games have been We can technically cut it off at street volume three, but volume two had better music. So fuck it volume two is the yeah No, volume two is the one had much better music Like too bad
Starting point is 03:14:10 Yeah, that's fine That's fucking dire And, uh Last one over here Uh deep throat says Um, is this where I make a joke about your names or is it here? I don't know anyway Dear naked woolly and punished pat We all know practically every day for the last millennia new names new rumors about mgs remakes bloodborne ports
Starting point is 03:14:35 And what have you pop up out of the woodwork? It's hardly a new thing Rumors constantly circulated back in the days about half life three in duke nukem, for instance Where I find it gets interesting though is when the rumors circulating constantly Um, you know mgs bb silk song silent hill was on that list until recently, but it was actually real unfortunately. Thanks bloober Um, in this crazy hypothetical nonsense world where all these projects actually exist and get announced Uh, what's gonna happen there? Are we gonna get? Uh blissful silence or will there equally be new nonsensical rumors to rise up to take their place out of the muck? Yeah, so people are always full of this exactly and
Starting point is 03:15:16 People are always full of shit and the number one thing everybody wants is the thing they already know Therefore for the entirety of our lives adult and childhood Childhood was childhood certainly, but from the moment I have teenager and forward It's been an exhausting non-stop. When's the remake of thing? Meanwhile new things are happening and you're like, I love those things, but you don't fucking finish them right before you go But when are we getting it again though? It's at this point so constant and it doesn't stop that it's I have to say it's it's human nature right familiarity. Yeah It's a cool. It's the thing we want
Starting point is 03:15:54 It's just exhausting when it's the only thing you hear over the course of fucking decades You probably should just stop putting too much weight in any of that and stop caring about it Check out Because some things will eventually get remade and when they do that's cool that they exist Right. I'm like and and you know they'll if something gets announced and then you know You wait or whatever fucking bayo 3 and it's like is it happening? I know pat you've been like yeah that project isn't real That's not happening and stuff like that for me. I'm like no It will it'll just take a fucking long time and you might not recognize it
Starting point is 03:16:30 But will he be on good and evil too is still coming out whenever that thing comes out It's not going to look anything like it what it was and it'll probably be a completely different dev cycle But it'll have that name and it something's going to come out right I think the much more interesting one is that you hear a rumor for a couple years about half-life 3 and then like 20 years go by and nothing happens. You know, I guess those were bullshit except like you find out No, some of those rumors were true and then things just didn't come out. Yes. Yes, right But I I don't smunt you all's making a final fancy game. That's bullshit Fucking 15 years later. No was real
Starting point is 03:17:06 But like didn't happen But it's so tiring because it's like I remember being around when the thing when everyone was asking for a tactics remake And then a tactics remake came out and now we've waited long enough that people are asking for a tactics remake again And there's a tactics remake this is going to come out So it doesn't even have to it can it can happen and then you wait long enough And then the same thing will just go right back on that list It's never gone for long this world of waiting for rumors and remakes It it's it it doesn't fucking pay off
Starting point is 03:17:38 Just wait care when it's real and stop caring until then Speaking of I'm going to be playing the dead space remake later this week And then next month I'll be playing the rest of you before remake um, it's become a lot easier to kind of Uh, not care if you know beyond good and evil or skull and bones or whatever the fuck bones. No, no I'm going to stop you right there skull and bones is unique because skull and bones Only exists by technicality
Starting point is 03:18:13 But must come out that is a weird situation. That's funnier every time they delay they delayed it again Yeah, yeah And then the final version will not even feature sailing Anyway, I'm like it's easier to not care as new cool things both indie and Larger profile get announced to look at like I'm so spoiled for choice with everything that it's like, all right Well, if something I want comes back around that'll be cool, you know, but If not, you can't care because I've spent Probably most of my two my aughts
Starting point is 03:18:55 From the year from the year 2000 to 2010 I cared a whole lot about things. I liked getting remade and some of them did and some of them didn't and It was a waste of energy Um, especially when you're in forums go reading people's fan fiction because they're getting off on you believing the shit They're writing, you know Yeah, I really have to say Becoming an influencer and getting to talk to people who know stuff And finding out that shit that
Starting point is 03:19:25 Got canceled and will never even be announced is the absolute like dagger to the heart of the rumor mill That's real. Yeah, and it's dead. Yeah I got that three years into qa Uh, you know the first couple years were just you know going through whatever projects we get thrown on And then three years in or so you start to see things that are like, oh, whatever happened to that Oh, shit. This was a real thing. Oh my god. No you know and then like Now you're holding that weight of like, ah people can never know
Starting point is 03:20:01 How fucking sick that was we're gonna be But whatever, you know, like you start to realize that's a thing. So yeah Rumors absolutely in some cases are real things There there's something like fucking starcraft ghost, man Like the whole game exists, dude You know It it was there too. It's too completion and then they fucking did the the extra fucking side-mish thing Uh, uh in two and whatever but
Starting point is 03:20:27 Shit like that persists over time because it's like, okay, eventually they're gonna salvage it and bring it back around But I don't know I just find I I My quality of life increased when I stopped caring and and obsessing over whether my favorite things were getting remade or not You know Will they fix dmc too it helps that you can just ask people if they're getting remade and someone will actually tell you Yeah, would they ever in a somewhat unique position in that specific place? I would trade off a dmc ladies night for a to remake that'd be really fun It'd be nice to fix that and and nice and have a solid fucking
Starting point is 03:21:07 continuity to the series of good good games, but Uh, you know, if not, whatever. Okay We're moving Um, yeah, anyways, there you go Don't don't don't stress out All right, deep throat cool. Stop caring about things that you can't see mm-hmm And this applies I apply this to returning characters and things too, you know, but I'm I'm
Starting point is 03:21:35 Dead horse. Everyone's heard me go off about this already. So mm-hmm enough. All right That'll do it Catch you next week folks. I hope everybody enjoyed the podcast This has been the first of many weeks of woolly intentionally not talking about doc upon because he's afraid I will ruin it No, that's fine. Um It's really simple You don't get to kick my door down and bully me into doing stuff that I don't really want to do
Starting point is 03:22:05 So that's that's about that All right week one Complete have a good week everybody. All right You

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