Castle Super Beast - CSB 208: Dilbert Hates My Interracial Marriage

Episode Date: March 1, 2023

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Starting point is 00:00:00 country, thankfully. Hello. Hey, good afternoon. Yeah, it's good afternoon. And good afternoon to everybody listening. Hope everyone's doing well. How about you, Wolves?
Starting point is 00:00:45 How are you doing? Well, I was doing okay. It looks like I'm hitting the red line on my mic here. Let me track that down a little bit. Yeah, no. You're so loud, bro. You know, I was, I'm doing all right. I thought I was doing all right, you know,
Starting point is 00:01:03 taking it day by day and just trying to be happy and healthy and try to live your best life, you know. And I mean, so I've been gone for a bit and I'll talk about that. But I came back. I returned home to find that, well, the creator of Dilbert has some sentiments that I just, I don't know that.
Starting point is 00:01:37 Something was actually wrong. You fucking freaked me out. I don't, I don't know that I was living a lie. I really thought that everything was hunky-dory and it turns out that me and Punch Mom need to get the fuck away from each other as soon as possible. Like, did you not know that you were a terrorist?
Starting point is 00:02:03 It's really rough, actually. I was, here I was hoping like, hey, you know, things, we might have, we might be able to find some happiness and things might be nice, you know, in the future. But it turns out that, according to Dilbert, I need to get the fuck away from Punch Mom and vice versa.
Starting point is 00:02:26 So I think- More specifically, everybody needs to get away from you. Yes, yes. So I think, I mean, on the one hand, there's happiness. On the other hand, I mean, when has Dilbert ever been wrong? So I think I might have to seriously consider Scott Adams' advice and just end this whole thing.
Starting point is 00:02:48 You know? It takes, it takes like a massive, like, there's one thing, you gotta hand it to him. Going on an insane racist rant in the middle of fucking Black History Month is fucking peak. It's fucking incredible. I mean, apparently people who've been paying attention,
Starting point is 00:03:10 which I don't know anyone that pays attention to Dilbert, but hey, you know, it's one of those things, right? It's your, I guess you're, because it's the gig. The gig is like, to be like Kathy or, you know, other serial newspaper things. It's to more or less be forgotten about and give an office worker a sensible chuckle around the-
Starting point is 00:03:31 Wow, I'm- The water cooler. I'm going into my desk here. Whoa, I'm going at it. Look at this, guys. I'm realizing, as I say this, that's not a real Dilbert comic. Yeah. It's an edit.
Starting point is 00:03:42 You know, but there is- Yes, you have to realize what the real Dilbert comics are. Way, way, way less on the edge, you know? Not gonna get that edgy and spicy with it. But that's why the author needs to make up for that, because, you know, it seems like, from time to time, there are creations that get away from the creators and become these large, kind of, basically just, you know,
Starting point is 00:04:16 flavorless, but like, omnipresent things in culture. Fucking Garfield's a great example. Everybody knows Garfield. I call every orange cat I see a Garfield. When's the last time you read a fucking Garfield comic? They're terrible. Fucking awful. And so, you kind of have these bits where it's like,
Starting point is 00:04:36 that kind of escapes almost the creator. And it's like, everyone knows what Dilbert is, but no one knows who Scott Adams is. Yeah, I saw obvious confusion when you mentioned the name without Dilbert. Exactly, right? And it's like, this is something where it's like, okay, so are you just kind of like trying to get ahead of your
Starting point is 00:04:59 own creation, like making itself more relevant than you? I don't know, but whatever the case is, some people have been basically saying, like, if you've been paying attention, it's not that surprising. It's been a, you know, a slow climb from Dilbert to fucking wherever we're at now, Dilbert with the clan outfit on. But regardless, it seems that the comic Dilbert
Starting point is 00:05:25 has been removed from many, many newspapers, so we can't read it anymore. And that sucks. So, you know, pour one out, man. We lost, you know, we've been talking about just, we've been losing heroes left and right, and you know, you've been things, we've been waiting on Bayo so long,
Starting point is 00:05:45 and then we got it, and eventually it was all this, you know, all these things that were bad. And now, we lost another one, man. We lost Dilbert. F. I wasn't ready for that, that crossover. Well, just think, you know, all the, all the long time, all the long time,
Starting point is 00:06:04 you know, excitement and memories and positivity, you know, just comes crashing to a halt, and now we can never, we can't read Dilbert, and it's just like, damn, you know. Are there like 48 million Dilbert comics? There are probably 48 billion, and I bet you, if you were to drop them into a trained AI algorithm,
Starting point is 00:06:23 you could create 48 billion more that would probably give you the same level of non-chuckle upon scanning them. Oh yeah, I also hate my boss, wow. But the tie's pointing up, you see. Every time I'm in the office, I do contemplate suicide, it's true, yes.
Starting point is 00:06:46 What you didn't realize is that the whole time, the whole time the tie was pointing up, it was secretly saying, up with the white man, you see. Oh, see, I thought you were going to go that, like, you know, if Dilbert's job sucks so much, how come he keeps staying at that office?
Starting point is 00:07:15 Well, that office is his last refuge in the modern world from him. I see, I see. As there are none of them in the office. In the office, there you go. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, it's quite interesting, you know. Now you kind of need to go back through
Starting point is 00:07:35 the archives and find out what was really going on, you know. Was Dilbert born on January 4th, 1988, aka 1488, was that, is there, is there something we... I hate, that sucks so bad, there are people, like we went to school with that probably have that exact birthday.
Starting point is 00:08:02 Yeah, probably. That's a real birthday. Probably, that's very possible. That's a real thing, you know. Damn. Wild. Yeah, so anyway, if anyone out there has been an avid Dilbert fan,
Starting point is 00:08:22 then poor one out, poor one out, sadness, it's a rough day, and I, yeah, I hope you can continue to read Dilbert in some other form, you know, or maybe go back and watch the cartoon or something, and... There's a fucking cartoon. There was a Dilbert cartoon.
Starting point is 00:08:42 I remember it on the air at some point. I had no idea. Damn. Yeah, that's something, you know, because I guess you just, I don't know, man. I'm always... You're just tired of it, man! I'm all...
Starting point is 00:09:01 I just gotta say what everyone's feeling! I'm always prepared to catch one of these hot, loaded fucking straight from the chamber takes, but I guess you just don't know... You don't know where it's gonna come from, you know? And the last thing I expected was Dilbert and Dogbert just going off on it.
Starting point is 00:09:23 Like, that's not the direction you expect it to come from. It's hard to predict sometimes, man. It really is, you know? It's wild, though. Yeah. I appreciate it. Well... It's candid, it's straight up,
Starting point is 00:09:40 it leaves nothing to the... it leaves no questions. We get right to the point on that one. I've seen people in chat say that Scott Adams said the cartoon was canceled because he was white on UPN. That's fucking sick. That's great.
Starting point is 00:09:55 Yeah. That's good. Well, anyways, he got it in before the end of the month, so... Shout-outs to him, you know? We are, in fact, right at... Before the buzzer. Yep.
Starting point is 00:10:09 Yep. You know, today's the last day of February and you made a count, man. Good shit. Yeah. All right. Well, anyway. Yeah, Dilbert with the buzzer beater.
Starting point is 00:10:25 Exactly. Oh, so I'm getting linked to tweets. Oh, I'm gonna look at it. It's gonna be funny. All three... What? The whole I identify... It's not Adams identified as black
Starting point is 00:10:38 for multiple years. That's not... Yeah, no, that's not funny. That's the lamest hackiest bit in the world. Oh, come on. It's not even... I've never seen that before. No.
Starting point is 00:10:47 It's the hackiest bit because it's just one of those things that's like, I'm gonna make fun of the modern era and go, I identify as black, I do the dola's all thing, and that means I can say whatever I want.
Starting point is 00:10:56 Yeah, it's hilarious, you see? Because no one in the office... You did not do the dola's all thing. But you see... The dola's all thing would have been way funnier. But no one in the office has ever heard a take so spicy, so if he goes,
Starting point is 00:11:08 you know, you know, what the way things are these days, I tell you what, guys, I think I identify as black, and everyone's like, oh, Scott, oh, you crazy card.
Starting point is 00:11:20 Oh, man, look at him. What's he gonna say next? And then that, and then we fast forward for a decade, and it's like, oh, yeah, he identified, and this comes up in the story because... I get that, however,
Starting point is 00:11:32 because it's in text, you can't throw that on there, so I prefer to read it, like, flat and insane. I mean, that's possible, too, you know? That's that, yeah. Please look forward to the new line
Starting point is 00:11:52 of fucking Dilbert Cross, yay, merch. I bet that would be a fucking incredible production. The most stylish shit ever, just pushing, yeah. I bet you just, yeah.
Starting point is 00:12:08 Join the camp, you know? Get on in. Rock the fancy Dilbert merch. I see it coming. Yay, Bert. That's awful. That's awful. Don't write that down.
Starting point is 00:12:26 Too late. Fuck. God, awful. So what's up? It's up for real. No, yeah, it was nice, you know, in the pre-Dilbert
Starting point is 00:12:42 timeline. I had a good time. I went to Ireland and that was cool. I then went to Portugal and got to experience a little bit of Lisbon.
Starting point is 00:12:59 And that was quite interesting. Yeah. I've always been a huge, like, my favorite kind of wine is port. It's the fucking best. I've loved it forever.
Starting point is 00:13:15 And Montreal has always been big on Portuguese chicken and they'd always have that as an option and stuff and I'd go in because it's so like, it's like sweet and just textured in a really nice way and it's one of those bits where you're just like, yeah, like, whether you know, like, wine stuff
Starting point is 00:13:31 or you don't, like, that's a type that just tastes really different. My favorite kind of wine is like very low-pitched and has a uh added to the end of my name. Pada. Okay. Alright.
Starting point is 00:13:53 Yeah, there you go. Pada. Yeah, okay. No, uh, stop. Yeah, okay. There it is. So, um,
Starting point is 00:14:09 it was, you know, it was cool to fucking, you know, get to the the origins of that shit and yeah, of course it was incredible I you know, got to kind of look around and see like the European style, you know,
Starting point is 00:14:25 old villa kind of vibes and kind of go like, oh yeah, like I remember how you know, parts of Montreal kind of look like this except these ones were built like 7,700 years
Starting point is 00:14:41 prior in some instances. Yeah, you know, but it's just kind of crazy because it's the same thing I remember when we kind of when we were in like Amsterdam as well before like a while ago and it was just kind of like when we have a big old classic building over here in North America
Starting point is 00:14:57 it's like, damn, that thing's been around since 18, whatever. That's crazy. My grandpa saw that thing built. Wow. And then you go to fucking Cintra and you see a castle and it's like, what year was this
Starting point is 00:15:13 built? Oh, like a thousand you know what I mean? Some kind of crazy shit where you're just like, oh yeah, this was built in like the 10th century or whatever, like just insane numbers going past what I can possibly understand
Starting point is 00:15:29 you know, and you're like, I just, I'm yeah, 2250 is like unthinkably old for us and then you go into the 500s plus and it's just like nonsense. This is the perspective of those of us who live in the quote-unquote new world. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:15:45 No, it is, it is wild and fucking and cool, you know, because I mean like there's what, like I'm walking along these ramparts and it's like, yeah, this is just the undead Berg and this is the part where you climb up and then like a skeleton attacks you
Starting point is 00:16:01 from a blind spot, you know. Incredible. And then also there's that whole bit of like right, we're overseas, so like there's no real guardrails or like anything to stop you from just dropping to your death. It's like, you can go up there and check it out
Starting point is 00:16:17 but like, I don't know, hold on, use common sense and you know don't blame us if anything goes wrong and it's like, right, yeah, like you know, North America is very much just like we need to protect you from yourself and everything needs to be idiot-proof and that makes sense
Starting point is 00:16:33 you know, because again, like you have to make sure that like, you know really silly people or people that act responsibly or anyone who's drunk or whatever doesn't fucking fall and die, but Do you? You don't have to but it's become
Starting point is 00:16:49 the way of the world here, especially because lawsuits are things and you can get litigious you know, but Yeah, people don't tend to No, but the families do you know, just put a bunch of spikes at the bottom to make sure they can't see. Oh, there were spikes, you know,
Starting point is 00:17:05 there were traps for escaping when like there's like, it's kind of interesting because you're like, yeah, you're on this like kind of castle mooring, you know, and you're like looking out and you're seeing like all the village from way down there and it's like, right so and then you can see the ships where you can see the water where the ships are coming and it's like
Starting point is 00:17:23 okay, so if the ships are coming, we can blow the horn and if the if the peasantry starts uprising and like running up the hill and lighting it on fire, we have a solid hour before they make it up here, you know, so we can look down on them and then there's
Starting point is 00:17:39 about an hour to jump into all these little trap doors and little holes that we can slide through to get away on the other side of the mountain and yeah, there were definitely little spikes and tombs and caverns and bits and pieces that were
Starting point is 00:17:55 you know, strewn about because it was just like yeah, at any given point they might get really mad, you know, especially when they look and they see that like this big old elaborate castle is actually just the royal family's
Starting point is 00:18:11 summer home you're like like this unthinkably insane fucking dungeon is just like, oh yeah, this is where they would vacation in the summers, you know, and you're like mm-hmm, okay, here we go, we're just you're dealing with a whole other level
Starting point is 00:18:27 of fucking decadence on that, you know but that being said though, no, Portugal's a very cool place and Lisbon's a very you know, fun town I got to enjoy
Starting point is 00:18:43 what you call fado music and fado is basically folk music played you go to like a restaurant or a bar and like they'll come out and they'll perform and it'll basically be just like guitar
Starting point is 00:18:59 and a vocalist who's going to sing to you about how fucking horrible their ex was and the awfulness of heartache and just like the most depressing music ever
Starting point is 00:19:15 but with so much soul and with so much just and you've just got to sit there and eat your dinner and drink your wine and just feel that that debuff to commit suicide or like
Starting point is 00:19:31 it's like going out to like almost like a blues show in a way but it's just it's much more you know, traditional folk kind of sound to it and like as the first couple performers or like these young folks
Starting point is 00:19:47 who are just like talking about, they're like oh man, you know obviously it's in Portuguese so I don't know the vibe was like I went to college and my high school sweetheart broke up with me or I caught her cheating or something and damn, that sucks
Starting point is 00:20:03 man, what a what a terrible story and then like you know, you get the like older dude that comes out and he's like yeah, you know that she like got that bitch took the kids and she left and now she's out in Florida
Starting point is 00:20:19 you know and now I just got to sit here and think about how sad you know, I feel and I gotta find out how to get back and I gotta see my kids again or whatever, you know and then you get like the lady who's lived
Starting point is 00:20:35 a million lifetimes coming out, just the older larger woman and she just like her voice just blasts and fills the room and you're like oh, she's singing about like not a shitty x or a bad breakup
Starting point is 00:20:51 or any of that, she's singing about like the worst possible outcome, one where nothing went wrong, she had a happy life and then he died of old age and now she's just alone
Starting point is 00:21:07 you know, that real like nothing went wrong, therefore it's almost even sadder kind of vibe, you know it was really just like this type of music is fucking woof, but damn, this pastel
Starting point is 00:21:23 Donata is great and I'm just eat my fucking, I'm just eat this steak and I'm a you know, sip this wine and just just sit in it, sit in the feeling of the sadness, you know yeah, fado is what it's called and it's
Starting point is 00:21:41 every night and it's uh, you can go find it, you can just wander in restaurants and if you hear it and just go like, sit at a table and just take that shit in and it's like yeah it's real, but it's great it's great and
Starting point is 00:21:57 I don't know, try not to fucking let it set in the genre if that makes any sense yeah, live another lifetime, it'll be like oh, my wife left me and she took my truck and all this shit and I'm like
Starting point is 00:22:15 that didn't happen yeah but that didn't happen, you're not actually like, it's a song well, it really feels like you're making up a lot here based on not knowing anything they were saying I'm trying to make an entertaining podcast for you to consume, alright?
Starting point is 00:22:31 wait, I'm sorry, did you not understand what they were saying? no, no then how the fuck do you know what they were talking about? I don't, I'm- they're gonna be singing about zebras at the lake the core, the point is I'm saying the energy of the younger folks having
Starting point is 00:22:47 a bit more of a, anyway that's the thing the whole story was completely made up what the fuck are you talking about? yes, I'm talking about the energy of what that feels like and how that sounds that's the bit
Starting point is 00:23:03 that's what I'm saying, it felt that way what the fuck are you talking about? I don't understand this I'm sorry, did the part where I said, like, they were singing in another language and I'm talking about the vibe you get from what they're singing about
Starting point is 00:23:21 was that not heard? it went into so much detail about what they were singing about when it was actually just are you not? like, I opened with that, is no one listening? what is happening? are you listening to yourself?
Starting point is 00:23:37 oh my god, okay alright like I said, I don't speak Portuguese I'm talking about the I'm painting a fucking picture of the vibe you get from the music because it felt really good
Starting point is 00:23:53 you paint with your eyes closed alright, alright, this is this is falling apart, here we go alright anyways, so it was very, it was very pretty music to listen to and
Starting point is 00:24:09 the younger singers were a little more upbeat and loose with it and then the middle age singers were coming in more mournful and then the eldest singers and vocalists were belting out opera powerful
Starting point is 00:24:25 notes that were mournful and weeping in that and that's kind of how the feeling of that went as you're eating your dinner and enjoying it and that was the vibe and it was very, very cool phato music is great
Starting point is 00:24:41 alright, alright, you fucking just non anyways, okay Jesus Christ yes, continue hit me with your anger and frustration I am so fascinated in understanding
Starting point is 00:24:57 why you are even frustrated because I never said I understood what anyone was saying, I don't know how that got lost in the beginning of this but anyways that was cool that was cool, it was fun shout out to the Portugal
Starting point is 00:25:15 so other things I was able to do, so one thing I've been wondering about, we've been talking about some of the Marvel movie fatigue and such recently and
Starting point is 00:25:31 to the point where I remember I didn't go see Blood and Thunder I also did not do that I didn't see Multiverse of Madness I saw Multiverse of Madness I started to feel the Marvel fatigue on that Blood and Thunder, I remember a lot of people coming in
Starting point is 00:25:47 saying that they really didn't like it and that they felt the fatigue real heavy on that excuse me, not Blood and Thunder my mistake that would have been a fun name too and so I watched it on
Starting point is 00:26:05 I watched it on the plane because I was like okay, time to kill and you know what, going in especially hearing how much I heard a lot of negativity going in I thought it was alright I was like
Starting point is 00:26:21 that was entertaining, it is basically Ragnarok part 2 in its vibes and tone I feel like Taika Watidi still knows how to make a fun movie you know and I've enjoyed
Starting point is 00:26:37 everything that I've seen him put out so far and it's one of those bits where I'm like okay this is definitely still full of his flavor but yeah, I thought it was totally fine I don't know what I necessarily expected maybe I went in with very very low
Starting point is 00:26:53 expectations based on what I kind of heard of it and you know, whenever things did like land, I was like oh I heard people say it was like the shittiest of all the Marvel films so did I, I'm just thinking of a lot of that and I went in with expectations on the floor
Starting point is 00:27:09 and I was like no, that was fine, you know, that was totally fine I think that like Taika I can see the parts of it where it's almost like and I don't know this for sure I'm just like obviously fucking
Starting point is 00:27:27 but I feel as if there are moments where it's like okay, this is where the typical action Marvel scene has to play out so then he goes like how do we add this thing to it to make it a little more fun than normal even though it has to play out
Starting point is 00:27:43 you know how can we add like one goofy element or two to some of these sequences to make it kind of like be a little bit just not the same thing that we always get you know I feel like Deadpool kind of did that a bunch of times too
Starting point is 00:27:59 you know, it was just like take, you know it's like it's still an action movie, it's still doing all those bits but then it kind of is just like let's try to mix up the superhero formula just a little bit but again like somebody who has not watched the recent, I want to
Starting point is 00:28:15 phase five stuff I feel like the fatigue started to kick in right after Loki, like everyone says it's after Endgame but like people watched Loki and seemed very positive about Loki and I feel like it's
Starting point is 00:28:31 two different things one is like the incessant punch up dialogue like the absolute mandatory like 180 seconds have passed, you must make a snarky comment like
Starting point is 00:28:47 is now out of control like it's totally out of control there is that there is the attempt to, so it's interesting there's a couple scenes well notably like one or two really but there's a couple moments in this where
Starting point is 00:29:03 they're doing like the kind of like the punch up dialogue over a serious thing like okay there's like a joke into serious like into like joking while serious kind of tone, you know
Starting point is 00:29:21 so they go for like a kind of like a third thing on that but there's also moments of like there's a literal he's right behind me, isn't he there's an actual one of those in it where you're like and and there it is, you know like they quite literally did it
Starting point is 00:29:37 I do remember too as well, yeah Moon Knight right, you guys said good things about Moon Knight I haven't seen that yet the positive thing about Moon Knight is that lots of it is super weird you gotta get super weird and different at this point for sure but yeah, anyway
Starting point is 00:29:53 I do think before I just, I wanna say there were two things one is the dialogue thing the second of which is we are like 31, 32 movies in that almost all have the same third act almost entirely, right
Starting point is 00:30:09 so this is where regardless of what how charming the flavor can be if the core meal is still the same ingredients, you're gonna need to do something and this is what I felt on yeah, well with Doctor Strange as well
Starting point is 00:30:25 where you're like even if the little the moment to moment is these things are like okay that's cool, okay not really that but that was alright, ooh that's interesting but you kind of walk away going the overall feeling is best been the same it's, I remember
Starting point is 00:30:41 for many many many years there was a sentiment that you would you would like mention and it hit you first and then it started to hit me later where you're like watching a video game trailer and you're like oh wow they're exploring, oh this is an interesting
Starting point is 00:30:57 concept, oh what's gonna happen and they go okay and then they crouch down and pull out a fucking gun and start doing third person shooting and you're like oh it's a fucking third person shooter, like
Starting point is 00:31:13 WandaVision was really interesting until they decided they had to have a big magic battle between a superhero and a supervillain and then your brain just fucking shut the fuck off so this is where we get to like I guess the part of it where you're like okay
Starting point is 00:31:29 how far can we get from what a superhero comic book is if you get really really far from that you're definitely gonna peak my interest right and yeah the premise of WandaVision early on especially with just like the
Starting point is 00:31:45 the reality and the twists and turns of the genre being played with and all that are fun and interesting things to explore but knowing that you're always going to have to come back to a climactic comic
Starting point is 00:32:01 battle is like it's yeah it's like I hope they can find a way to I don't predict it because I imagine that like this is kind of what people expect a movie to just be but it would be nice if there was like you know more breaking away
Starting point is 00:32:17 not just in the premise and the setup but in the entire thing being like no no no the whole genre is different and this is a different kind of story with these characters you know whatever exploring this world it doesn't have to have
Starting point is 00:32:33 the same kind of villain with the same kind of conclusion that being said Christian Bale did a phenomenal job in this as well like I think it's one of those things where I kind of am like okay I can see him
Starting point is 00:32:49 looking at the script and going like because Christian Bale deciding to get involved in this kind of story to begin with like I'm gonna be the villain of like Thor 4 is a very not Christian Bale role to take you know yeah and when he was doing interviews they're like how do you feel about
Starting point is 00:33:05 being part of the Marvel MCU like what I'm not part of the character in the movie it's it's such a not him thing to do to come in in this way you know but I can see like I like from what it was the way he played it and from the way
Starting point is 00:33:21 it was done that it's like oh you played a really interesting role good job of it and the worst thing about it was that he should have been in it more and he should have said more things he should have done more
Starting point is 00:33:37 things because I was genuinely curious what he as a villain had to say about you know what he was doing and why and all that stuff because it's one of those things where you're like yeah no like it's one of those cases of
Starting point is 00:33:53 just like pretty justified villain you know and whenever you get one of those bits you're like okay let's hear more let's see more and he did a good job of it so it does kind of suck unfortunately that you know like he was kind of underused but
Starting point is 00:34:09 that's another kind of thing to it where it's like oh I went in just kind of you know whatever I didn't expect anything of whatever that was going to be and he was fine too so yeah all in all you know better than I expected
Starting point is 00:34:25 not bad definitely though like can't just pull another one of these out you know like to make it I'm going to call it I'm going to call this Ragnarok 2 and Ragnarok 3 you'd have
Starting point is 00:34:41 to just make it something you know don't worry I totally will I don't know I don't just I hope my hope is that this the people that they get
Starting point is 00:34:57 the showrunners and the directors and the scriptwriters I hope they're all getting bored of the formula too you know that's the best thing that could happen here at this point is that the people making it creatively doesn't matter so for Marvel specifically it doesn't matter
Starting point is 00:35:13 because Kevin Feige is not tired of it and Kevin Feige gets the final say on like literally every single part of every production definitely not tired of making money on it that's for sure but I think though that like
Starting point is 00:35:29 the flavor of a lot of these movies especially like these specifically these taiko ones I'm mentioning has a lot to do with like you know him coming along and I can see a timeline of like man 1 and 2 Thor 1 and 2 were just
Starting point is 00:35:45 bone dry and joyless let's fucking crank that up you know and then they do that and like cranked it too hard brother and again knowing like how
Starting point is 00:36:01 what his flavor is like with some of the other stuff he's worked on you can feel a lot of his identity in the way these movies come together so I don't know that like it's like the bottom line is still Feige and the MCU overlord collective but
Starting point is 00:36:17 I think if the creators and the people that are writing these stories and directing them and show running etc like want to shake things up more you'll you know that could be good in the long run if you especially if you don't want like everyone just collectively
Starting point is 00:36:33 zoning out like on something that was like there were good ideas here but the fatigue is just too unavoidable at this point you know the fatigue on on Ubi games on on Assassin's Creed all that stuff now it's like industry wide
Starting point is 00:36:49 you know we were talking about it like years ago because whatever we're fucking playing games and then all that shit but like it's starting to on a casual level people that are that barely tune in people like a cousin of mine would be like oh yeah okay Assassin's Creed right I don't know man
Starting point is 00:37:05 they still make those you know there's a little bit of that out there it's funny because the Marvel movie thing how long when Iron Man come out like 2008 15 years I forget yeah in that
Starting point is 00:37:21 15 years they have like speed ran the problem that like video games have encountered in in like multiple ways like I remember going through Mass Effect and getting to the point where I'm like bro I have I
Starting point is 00:37:37 have saved the world in an RPG like like 400 times since I was a child I want to go get beers with Garrus that's them that's the game that I want to play now right and now with Marvel I'm like god
Starting point is 00:37:53 damn it like ant-man can't save the world from the quantum realm like it's the fucking earth just on the precipice of doom every fucking two weeks the first really is it the first time I went off on this was god damn it was fucking Spider-Man too
Starting point is 00:38:09 man just like you know Doc Ock was a great villain um he was a great character he was a lot of fun and for no reason at the buzzer we got to threaten the world you know and it was just like make a little baby son
Starting point is 00:38:25 like you're stupid fucking crank up of the stakes actually made this whole thing worse if it stayed on the level it was at which is a very interpersonal story you would have like ended on that level of an interpersonal story
Starting point is 00:38:41 with Doc Ock it would have been fucking perfect but like that that was the first major one I remember bothering the shit out of me was like the stupid ramp up ramp up in stakes you know from from
Starting point is 00:38:57 two they're also combining that with like you mentioned the open world fatigue and it's really funny because I think it was Chris Wolfheart on twitter formerly at Mr. Fields who made I think it was him anyway I'm not sure but was joking that like
Starting point is 00:39:13 the open world trend would have been dead long ago but every couple of years some fucking absolute A plus amazing thing comes out that's open world that sells shit million copies like Ubisoft is like they have they have rung
Starting point is 00:39:29 every piece of blood out of the stone that is their open world formula right but then Elden Ring came out and Elden Ring sold a billion copies because it's open world now it's because it's good it's it's also
Starting point is 00:39:45 because that open worlds sprinkle is being inserted into a series of very solid souls games that came before this and people already liked that Elden Ring could have continued that but they and before that
Starting point is 00:40:01 it was it was Breath of the Wild oh it succeeded because it's open world sell the game no it succeeded because it's great yeah no they introduced and Witcher 3 before that and so on and so forth the concept like open world was introduced to an already working formula in those
Starting point is 00:40:17 examples do you remember the this is you remember back when like people liked Kevin Smith and he had only made a couple movies that were pretty good where he pitched his idea for the green Hornet film and the green Hornet film was
Starting point is 00:40:33 green Hornet and Kato sitting on the fucking hood of the car talking about bullshit for 90 minutes and then they go fight some dudes off camera and then come back to the fray yeah and then they come back into the hood like I would be so much more interested in that of course
Starting point is 00:40:49 of course of course we everyone would but like you know that would be also something for that would just be like okay how are we going to take the risk on that or is anyone going to get it you know yadda yadda et cetera
Starting point is 00:41:05 what's his name Bob from Hydra right or whatever yeah yeah yeah all that shit exactly dealing with his fucking health care problems with Hydra but this is what I mean right like let's start taking chances and not just like taking half chances
Starting point is 00:41:21 where you go one division and then back into the formula you know let's start completely removing the formula because it can and you know it can work if you fucking we if we are interested in
Starting point is 00:41:37 seeing superheroes through different lenses entirely we want to see them through the through the whole journey that way not just so that they can eventually come back to a quick last minute superhero punch battle you know I also think that uh the the the I mean this has been an issue in comics and video games for a while
Starting point is 00:41:53 but like I don't think the mainstream movie public has had this particular issue which is you can only escalate the stakes so high before it stops becoming like tangible or relatable to a normal human being you can
Starting point is 00:42:09 understand the earth exploding you can understand there's aliens out there and oh billions of people will die or trillions of people will die it is difficult to tangibly interpret
Starting point is 00:42:25 every permutation of a trillion billion multiverses will it's like it's it's it's now become uh you can't you can't touch it yeah can't you do marvel is also uh having
Starting point is 00:42:41 this issue where every individual series has its individual macguffin and that and this is like comics as well but it's like these individual macguffins coexist in a in a hierarchy that is completely like okay so if you
Starting point is 00:42:57 if you if this grants a wish but this also makes you do anything and this lets you do anything and this could let you do it like which one of these lets you do anything devices would let you actually do anything guess what they're all pieces of the big let you do anything device okay well
Starting point is 00:43:13 we gotta keep the bad guy away from that and there is I don't know it just seems like a weird thing now where like I'm sitting here and like okay the multiverse is the new thing and the multiverse is the new thing so that when I'm a
Starting point is 00:43:29 55 year old man you can fucking wheel out Hugh Jackman in a fucking wheelchair and go I'm Wolverine cap and it's like I I can't the the idea that I could be excited for the plan
Starting point is 00:43:45 10 years from now it's I fucking yeah you know it's interesting because like as we're talking about this right I look over to my right and I have my shelf of comics right here and I'm looking at them and I have a collection of Marvel stuff on one side over here
Starting point is 00:44:01 I've got some DC over here on the other side and you know I mean shit I've got some fucking vertigo some and I've just got a whole pile of these things and they kind of represent and I've gotten rid of stuff over the years too I used to have a lot of you know loose
Starting point is 00:44:19 issues not that I don't anymore but the point is is like I'm looking at these as like the eras when I used to go and buy a lot of graphic novels and there was things that brought me back in and when I was in I was going on a regular basis and keeping up
Starting point is 00:44:37 with it and then I'd fade out and then something would be like oh that's an interesting thing and I'd get pulled in for a little bit and then back out etc I'm I'm now out because I haven't bought a graphic novel or a comic in a very
Starting point is 00:44:53 long time the last thing I probably bought before saga or after saga I don't know oh yeah I bought the Sarah this book that like a hair is really good or whatever but
Starting point is 00:45:09 but like the point is is what's happening with these movies and me coming kind of coming out it's it's the exact same thing right like there's a point where none of these things that I bought these were all very satisfying good stories I really enjoyed them there was nothing wrong with them but
Starting point is 00:45:25 as good as they were there was a certain point where my interest just kind of it just the taste is a little more bland each time unfortunately you know and you kind of catch when a friend would loan me something every once and all this like yo check this out
Starting point is 00:45:41 this is wild this is a completely different take on something or you know whatever but the movies that are getting to that same place I got to where I stopped buying comics and I'm like I didn't stop buying because you know I wasn't enjoying what I bought but it just
Starting point is 00:45:57 like it stopped being something I was compelled to go check out you know and it's the same level of like fatigue kicking in at some point there's also something else to be said and the quality is all over the place so it's not quite the same
Starting point is 00:46:13 but it's like there's a video that I can't stop talking about by Race Vic are you familiar with Race Vic? I know the spelling of the name yeah yeah okay so he does like video essays right and I was not aware of this he is a fiend
Starting point is 00:46:29 for racing games he has like the fucking cockpit in his house right that kind of you know with the chair and the fucking the pedals and everything and he made a fantastic video this week which is called I Love
Starting point is 00:46:45 Racing Games They Suck and he goes into F1 Assetto Corsa and all the Sim Racers and just shows off like these are all wildly busted and they have been wildly busted for like going on
Starting point is 00:47:01 8 to 10 years and this is a better problem than arcade racing games have in which arcade racing games just no longer exist right right right yeah and just goes on to like people love racing games but there's just been no creativity
Starting point is 00:47:17 and they're so fucking they're just bad the racing games coming out now are objectively worse than the same series 10 years ago right and I feel like there's a portion of that happening right now
Starting point is 00:47:33 which is how many spider-man's do you need to release before you realize it's not going to be as good as Spider-Man 1 or 2 ever how many Thor movies are you going to run out that people aren't like
Starting point is 00:47:51 or Iron Man's or Captain America how many Captain America movies are you going to put out before you just go back to Winter Soldier how many racing games are trying out new shit versus the ones that are just yeah versus the ones that are just like doing the old tried and true and just
Starting point is 00:48:07 trying to keep it you know at the par level of what's been acceptable years before aka the sports franchise of another genre yeah and in terms of video games it's like I'm thinking about it like sports games
Starting point is 00:48:25 then it happened to racing games and now it's happened to shooters like Call of Duty and Battlefield are sports games solved genres they come out and they have the same regular boxes and the same guns
Starting point is 00:48:41 and the same basic features every year and they're kind of getting worse and I feel like that's probably starting to happen with the Marvel movies it's tough to say as I haven't seen these but I'm just talking about people's the perception, the feeling
Starting point is 00:48:57 the people that are in there buying them for sure and yeah so what's the common denominator across all of this it's like take chances you gotta start taking more chances once people no okay well never mind don't change my mind
Starting point is 00:49:13 yeah that's it and I do I do hope for that I do hope that we continue to just like at this pace I feel you're gonna get a bunch of them come and go and then like one
Starting point is 00:49:29 random MCU thing is gonna be like oh did you hear about this it fucking puts in boots too whoa and then just go back to sleep and then every once in a while real shit cause
Starting point is 00:49:45 that's kind of the vibe I got from it so I mean I just saw somebody make a really excellent comment so Marvel stuff is right now it's about the multiverse like the last four Spider-Man movies have been about the multiverse
Starting point is 00:50:01 I'm including the next the next spider verse one you got Miles you got fucking home what's it called and then the far from home said it was
Starting point is 00:50:17 about the multiverse but that was a trick like there's like how many fucking times are you doing the same exact fucking thing here's another metric go to the conversations we have about these movies and what percentage of them are talking about the movie
Starting point is 00:50:33 versus the fatigue and now the fatigue is 80% of the conversation the movies 20% of it I would rather have more more biases than
Starting point is 00:50:49 than another one of these in which at the end the everybody team up to fight the big man I'm looking forward to Spider-Verse 2 I'll probably enjoy it it'll probably be a lot of fun it'll probably have a bunch of great
Starting point is 00:51:05 little moments and funny bits and pieces the desire to watch the Green Hornet walk off frame and then come back and sit down is just have no action way more interesting
Starting point is 00:51:21 pitch I would just live for watching I would just like to sit outside the theater in a nice chair and just watch people like watch massive fucking nerds just walk out super mad so this is the part of it that I was thinking of and I was like
Starting point is 00:51:37 yeah we don't need to go there but I was also thinking of the people that okay fine well the people that definitely are like this is blasphemous this is bullshit this is not what it should be when I go to see a blank movie I go so I can and then you kind of like right
Starting point is 00:51:53 the person that actually would have no problem with the formula staying tried and true forever you know congrats you're advocating for the same thought processes that led to your entire favorite medium being referred to as shit cape shit by other comics enjoyers and becoming one of the most
Starting point is 00:52:09 niche things ever yeah there you know I do think that like for example movies can come out that are like we talked to like member of the Batman just came out right the Robert the Pattinson Batman and that was like oh yeah those
Starting point is 00:52:25 you know that was it there you go there's a little good Batman movie but like how many of those before you're like well yeah I know we've we've done this nothing wrong with it nothing happened like everyone did their job
Starting point is 00:52:41 this take on killer croc was awesome what an amazing you know man bat wow at that wait are you telling me man bats and the fucking Robert Pattinson Batman I mean let's
Starting point is 00:52:57 just grab one that we haven't seen yet right okay okay shit okay yeah I'm just let's grab let's grab a Batman road gallery villain we haven't seen yet and just like yo that interpretation of man bat holy shit right um
Starting point is 00:53:13 you know this and then but that's still gonna but it's still gonna kind of come out and be like well um yeah that that which that still we've done it we've done it it was cool we done it I think that
Starting point is 00:53:31 first of all peacemaker was great so James gun you just keep doing those I gotta watch that too yeah oh it's it's fantastic great great secondary villain one of the best secondary villains ever
Starting point is 00:53:47 I forgot what I was gonna say fuck it's completely gone okay well anyways sure calendar man whatever kind of clay face whatever while whatever you want to bring up the point is is that we're gonna you know you can get a really good movie that is gonna have like a fun take on that villain that you've never seen before and
Starting point is 00:54:03 you'll be like yeah I was entertained by that but you know I guess it's just kind of like I don't know that you're gonna have any sort of like holy shit even if you get a holy shit heath ledger kind of moment out of it yeah um it's still echoing
Starting point is 00:54:19 the impact of before it's it's the wake you know of in the in the water you saw the the new Batman right mm-hmm did they show Martha's fucking pearls hitting the fucking ground I don't think they did I don't think they did
Starting point is 00:54:35 it's been a minute now so my memory is not great but I don't think they did um so yeah we're straight no I if they ever like origin stories people are gonna rage
Starting point is 00:54:51 angrily at having to watch an origin story again I know I fucking would and I've heard enough people fucking upset about that like we don't need to do it I feel like that is the absolute like
Starting point is 00:55:07 canary in the coal mine mm-hmm where there have been so many spider-man and Batman's and such that we're at the point where the character shows up and you go yeah there
Starting point is 00:55:23 their back story happens uh moving on don't have time everyone will be mad because we're doing the same fucking thing again that's it and when Logan shows up in fucking the multi when Hugh Jackman fucking
Starting point is 00:55:39 trots on stage and he's 95 years old and 300 years to be to hang out with Robert Downey Jr. skeleton do you think they're even gonna bother saying the fucking phrase weapon X or the he'll just be like yeah I'm Logan I'm part of the X man
Starting point is 00:55:55 you know who I am and then he will floss off the stage for I think fortunately they've wisened up to how sick of origin stories people are and every time you recast anybody you gotta briefly at least touch on it in some way
Starting point is 00:56:11 shape or form but no I they're they've gotten better about that and I don't think yeah the pearls didn't hit the ground you know thank goodness anyways anyways there's there's stuff going on so beyond that
Starting point is 00:56:27 I checked out yeah there's two games one you've mentioned before and I actually got to feel for myself 20 minutes till dawn oh yeah not vampire survivors not vampire survivors
Starting point is 00:56:43 really not vampire survivors now that I've like done a run and so it's so interesting just to I mean just to touch on it for a real quick second the fact that you really actually have to pay attention because of the aiming and reloading is like oh this is not the most
Starting point is 00:56:59 this is not a passive brain off game you can't just play this and stop thinking you have to pay attention almost like because it's kind of like half gungeon half you know whatever it's twin steak plus vampire survivors and you know you don't you don't really necessarily realize just how
Starting point is 00:57:15 fucking passive survivors is until the game asks you until this game asks you to aim or switch between targeting or auto targeting and you're like fuck I don't want to like
Starting point is 00:57:31 I want to just I want to just move the thing and stop thinking you know it is it is it is it is interesting because just because of that little bit it definitely makes me feel like well do I want to
Starting point is 00:57:47 like when I'm in the mood like how much how active or passive do I feel right now you know and I don't know that I ever feel like so passive that I want to like it feels like it sometimes I want extreme passivity or extreme engagement
Starting point is 00:58:03 and this lands right in the middle and I don't know if I'm ever in the mood for that is what I'm trying to say I totally agree I'm like this is a cool game seems very well made cool concept get it away from me I want something as active as geometry wars or as passive
Starting point is 00:58:19 as vampire survivors or there's another one about skeleton called bone razor minions in which you don't fight you're just raising little skeletons to fight for you like I don't want to hit but I don't want to hit a fucking button unless it's picking a power up in a menu yeah I mean even when like the
Starting point is 00:58:35 engagement is like it becomes wrote like Hades for example you're still fully locked in as you're doing it and I can you know it's a game I could definitely be like listening to something in the background or whatever but like I'm in the
Starting point is 00:58:51 mood for that level of like I want to be locked in and focused on on my build and dodging whatever or just moving around the map shooting at bullshit and collecting hearts and getting the fucking little treasure minigame song playing you know so it's pretty cool
Starting point is 00:59:07 I like I like some of the stuff in it and I like the the ability to like handle waves that surround you with two different aiming styles if you think like okay fuck it I don't want to manually aim just shoot the thing closest to me you know
Starting point is 00:59:23 stuff like that is like there's some yeah when I played it it didn't have that oh really interesting yeah so you've got that in it and that is a like I'm you know if you've got no major enemies on screen and you just kind of need to like survive the horde that's
Starting point is 00:59:39 closing in quickly that's pretty good it's pretty helpful but overall yeah that's it I just I'm just not sure when I would be in the mood for it you know but like I was solid in part survivors DLC but apparently it's fucking stellar hmm
Starting point is 00:59:55 yeah and then so the other thing and this was just very very briefly I checked out fear and hunger and fear and hunger is a um it's kind of like it's got it's
Starting point is 01:00:11 RPG with roguelike elements um where you kind of where is this uh it's it's on steam so survival is it an ampersand yeah it is an ampersand yes oh that fucking all that stupid punctuation
Starting point is 01:00:29 yeah um so this is a game that is basically just like okay you're dropped in and you have kind of like um yeah well are you know over like survival RPG um it is no longer on steam
Starting point is 01:00:45 if you take uh it's right there I'm looking at it what am I typing this incorrectly fear and hunger um why why that's so strange I checked it in four times and I had to click on it
Starting point is 01:01:01 when I asked me if I incorrectly spelled it when I had in fact correctly spelled it well here's a link to it um thank you yeah so it's the type of game where you start you just you get it you get in and like right away if you you you're like in this little room picking up stuff and if
Starting point is 01:01:17 you take uh slightly too long uh a bunch of dogs just fucking rush your ass and rip you to pieces right art style is very interesting um you get you know and so it's just like uh like okay
Starting point is 01:01:33 don't fuck around survive you know immediately and like learn the rules of what that means because a lot of things are going to be bullshit until you know that they're bullshit um you know like one of the first screenshots you see there um
Starting point is 01:01:49 is like uh yeah just like like just big a big monster that has like a butchers knife in its hand and it's like you can target that limb and get rid of that that arm that has that butcher knife because that thing can fuck you up instantly
Starting point is 01:02:05 uh or you can get uh uh a limb chopped off and then you don't have that limb anymore you know um okay so a lot of you know with some feast or famine mechanics as well going on um and then some
Starting point is 01:02:21 some cool like little some cool moments of um I guess RPG battle in a traditional sort of way and then you kind of are like it's hitting a couple like vibes that like SMT would hit when it comes to like the press turn system and stuff where
Starting point is 01:02:37 you know like you're about to get fucking rinsed or you're going to do the rinsing you know um you know like a ominous text implies that like something horrible is coming and from way in the background the shadow of a beast
Starting point is 01:02:55 starts approaching you know yeah um it's it's very very much like uh uh uh yeah just you know get ready to fucking you know die and then try again and this time around you know
Starting point is 01:03:11 don't don't be an idiot or know that that thing's going to in one shot you you know um then there's like there's like uh stuff too where you get you can meet people and like uh uh
Starting point is 01:03:27 or from what up from my understanding is like you can get people and um like kind of party members and conditions that might not even necessarily benefit you but if there is a benefit you've got to figure it out
Starting point is 01:03:43 so yeah there's just a lot of like you can find something or someone doesn't mean it's going to be good whereas everything you find and obtain in most of these types of games is like oh well can't hurt to have it
Starting point is 01:03:59 you know um yeah so it is an interesting thing and yeah it's it's it uh when you go on steam it gives a very big 18 plus adult only uh rating for the content nine dollars um yeah easy to buy
Starting point is 01:04:15 I mean so far I can say that uh there was definitely a big old donger hanging off a monster and you can slice it hell yeah you slice that donger you can slice the donger um yeah brother but uh yeah I'd have to like
Starting point is 01:04:31 kind of see a bit more about you know what's going on but at the very least seems like an interesting kind of um setup and if you like the idea of yeah just feast or famine as I said uh the that little feeling of like ooh I got
Starting point is 01:04:47 press turned or I'm press turning um yeah you can check it out sounds cool as hell I heard it goes places too with like the endings and stuff like that oh I'm sure that kind of thing um fear and hunger uh yeah
Starting point is 01:05:05 that's that's that's pretty much it only other thing I want to give a quick shout out to is uh um blessing uh over at kind of funny uh on The Blessing Show did a little episode uh on black hair and uh it's funny
Starting point is 01:05:21 oh yes I saw you I saw that article yeah because it clip though it showed a bunch of people uh towards the end of the video and like I was like I was it showed my Lucio Cosplay but uh the editor just didn't know didn't recognize who it wasn't the Google Reverse search wasn't working so I just kind of said oh hey that was me just so you
Starting point is 01:05:37 know FYI but um yeah no blessing school we did um I was on a podcast with him like a some time ago and uh the black hair topic is just a funny like I'm like god I've been fucking talking about this forever and yeah
Starting point is 01:05:53 it's just a it's a it's a you know a little just let's look at that and how you know when we go to make an Elden Ring character and you're just like for the love of fucking god why is this still a thing you know when I made when I'm making jokes to you guys about trying to create a character in soul
Starting point is 01:06:09 caliber 3 and just running into a fucking wall on that here I am a million years later still talking about it well I mean I think the saddest thing about that is like you asked that question but like the answer is like incredibly obvious
Starting point is 01:06:25 because nobody on the Elden Ring development team is a black guy yeah no there's got no reference points and you know if you do kind of just google it they're gonna kind of go okay well I don't know cornrows and afros I guess cool you know and like
Starting point is 01:06:41 if you um if you wait long enough and you you know like it with a lot of time and detail and history eventually Barrett's fade can look really nice you know but Zaz's fro is still gonna bounce up and down
Starting point is 01:06:57 cartoonishly while he while he moves his head around you know um yeah anyway it is just the thing though where you kind of I saw something that was brought up in the video too was just like okay but at the same time like
Starting point is 01:07:13 I don't know that anyone working on Neo2 was black but look at how fucking cool that is and how much they nailed it yeah see what that so apparently the woe long character creator that's out this week is like same team so it's
Starting point is 01:07:29 same people jamming that character creator into everything because they're very proud of it I mean it seems like dedication to we want to have the best character creator well that's that but that's what we get to right like the obvious answer as you mentioned is that like yeah there's just no one around to tell
Starting point is 01:07:45 them uh yo this is what it means when your character fucking needs to have a nice edge up on the front you know what I mean like this is what you want to do to get the right texture of a beard or whatever the case is but um yet still there are examples and
Starting point is 01:08:01 team ninja obviously was able to figure that the fuck out so it's not impossible to do it it just means you have to have someone interested in you know I guess bothering to put the effort there listen listen man like this this all has the same energy of
Starting point is 01:08:17 hey ubi soft man how come no play as lady oh well you see it would take twice the amount of work because women need their own animal sure yeah so you know like yes
Starting point is 01:08:35 having someone right there helps but you don't absolutely like you can still do this without and you know and then the other bit of course I remember like um way longer than that I remember when people would be like they will just be like shut the fuck up you're playing a Japanese
Starting point is 01:08:51 game it wasn't made for you it was like okay cool well games are made for everybody interesting because somehow my money wound up going straight to you to the creator but I guess somehow it's not for me then
Starting point is 01:09:07 uh huh okay cool yeah so anyways um yeah check that out I was I want to latch on to that there I have used the phrase it is not for you in the past I feel like there's a bunch of people who use it incorrectly as some kind of
Starting point is 01:09:23 I don't know get the fuck out of here shut up don't criticize thing it's very similar to the customers always right where it's not like when I say something isn't for you I'm saying that it doesn't necessarily need to be to your taste
Starting point is 01:09:39 not that it shouldn't acknowledge that you as a customer exist yeah right like yeah um and in some cases like you know I don't know I don't like pizza towers for me
Starting point is 01:09:55 like I really don't I say look at that game and people are excited about pizza tower and I look at pizza tower and I go I don't fucking get it for shit this game looks terrible I don't think I would like it I'm gonna not I'm not gonna deal with it because people will just
Starting point is 01:10:11 be upset because I think it sucks if I if I go play like some dojin fighter where um you know fucking taro q protagonist uh shu jinko taro shu jinko uh
Starting point is 01:10:27 will will will you know basically give you the option to pick between three different styles of basic student cut um and that's your personality like I understand when I enter that realm that I'm um you know I'm not fully expecting to get a fucking
Starting point is 01:10:43 def jam fight for New York level of detail to select you know um but uh but at the same time when you turn to a series that's a little bit more known than that random dojin game like I don't know animal crossing
Starting point is 01:10:59 right and it's like there's a point where um to get darker uh skin and animal crossing the only thing you could do is stand outside in the sun put your fucking ds down and just let your character get tanned and it's like
Starting point is 01:11:15 what the fuck are we doing Nintendo like a little bit more known than you know garage game studio like I think we can kind of you know I think we can meet in the middle on this one man I think the
Starting point is 01:11:31 I think the like a dragon series works is a really excellent like meter stick for this concept where it's like there was a time hey like a dragon echin okay when people say that's not for you I mean they literally mean it's not in English or any other language it's it's quite
Starting point is 01:11:47 bluntly not for you they're saying hey man it's it's fucking right but then you get into it oh it's translated in English now it's like oh this pacing and all this type of characterization is like no that was made so that people could pretend
Starting point is 01:12:03 of the original series to be the cool guy on their street corner in fucking kabuki show yes like just an absolute absolute like pin prick focused idea that doesn't apply to
Starting point is 01:12:19 almost any other country in the world but other people like that if you don't if you don't think that's cool then I guess it's not for you don't like the idea of putting like curio in America is hilarious is hilarious and I think it would be really cool but like the idea that
Starting point is 01:12:35 like well they have to do that now silly fucking ridiculous just nonsense yeah so you know um it's just one of those bits where it's just like right if I've spent my whole fucking life like you know noting that
Starting point is 01:12:51 bad black hair is a thing it's gonna continue to be this way probably for the rest of my life but you will probably die before this becomes the norm but every once in a good black hair but every once in a while you can point out when it's like
Starting point is 01:13:07 oh hey Neo2 had a great they did it what else did it really well well NBA2K16 how's Monster Hunter I forget they had so they had a couple options they there were better
Starting point is 01:13:23 ones but you had to buy them okay so the better black hair options were DLC and I had to go purchase like them in hair packs or whatever but like let's take Neo right like hey we uh black hairstyles are tough I'm like are you a studio
Starting point is 01:13:39 that's speaking to me right now how can it be more tough for you fucking team ninja for fuck's sake that's silly yeah and it just again you're just like you're gonna have to just point out these things and even fuck like I saw one the other day that I was like
Starting point is 01:13:55 whoa this one's really good what a Hogwarts legacy oh wonderful you know what I mean so just woo yeah so just like it's gonna be shit forever but every once in a while it won't and then I'll be like hey
Starting point is 01:14:11 hey look at that that's cool we'll be wooly testing forever oh boy hey man um in in um in uh wild hearts you can fucking you can put the little color at the end of the dreads
Starting point is 01:14:27 and that's nice and and in Street Fighter 6 you can do anything you want but you also can make a horrible fucking Cronenberg so I I think it's one hey man this is this is a great lead in because it's one of those things like
Starting point is 01:14:43 offering up the options like usually it's used in terms of accessibility right but offering up the ability to do anything like let's say you make a good character creator in Street Fighter 6 you can make it like a cool realistic black character right this also if you expand
Starting point is 01:14:59 far enough in every direction allows people to make nightmare Cronenbergs that everyone can regardless of their ethnicity freedom absolutely that's it give us the tools like give us the you know unshackle us from these shitty
Starting point is 01:15:15 fucking uh limited options like a really good example no pun intended go on a really good example is that I've been I've been workshopping this with people
Starting point is 01:15:33 and I've been on the journey to make like the best Devil May Cry control scheme in the past couple of weeks and shout outs to Hitchhiker who figured out the turbo stuff and shout outs to Ayodo Corp who created the
Starting point is 01:15:49 figured out how to do the layering and the original purpose was my wife Paige playing through Devil May Cry but mashing inputs fucks her shit up right so I don't like she's gonna go to DMC3 next or the mashing of the like million stab
Starting point is 01:16:05 is like fairly intense and I don't want my wife's arms to explode off her torso so I oh let's see if I can automate this and the more and more that I do it I have made with the help of those people a really really good steam input
Starting point is 01:16:21 control scheme for DMC 4 and 5 that works great for people that don't want to mash and I've been playing the games again with it and now it's the only control setup that I ever want to use ever again because it's so much easier
Starting point is 01:16:37 I figured out how to fucking make it so that you can hold Nero's gun for one second and then it'll just keep charging in the background and when you want to fire it off just tap square again that's great color up is uh yeah it also
Starting point is 01:16:53 works with Dante's guns it works with ladies guns it works with summon swords it's fucking great nice and it's allowed me to go back to Nero's default controls like I've pulled the gun off
Starting point is 01:17:09 trigger and now it's back on square so that I can have the other thing on the right trigger where that would be more comfortable I would say that level of improvement counts as an accessibility option really because you know for some people holding
Starting point is 01:17:25 a controller holding a button down takes more effort over time you know like that well I thought I might be overdoing it by making it so that all the basically the idea with the square thing is hold down square for one second and then let go and it'll charge up
Starting point is 01:17:41 whatever Dante's guns or whatever Nero's gun in the background because I hate having to hold it down on the trigger while fighting yeah and I was I was contacted by somebody who does like DMC combo stuff and described quote
Starting point is 01:17:57 more people in the community have developed carpal tunnel as a result of playing Nero than playing Dante as a direct result of having to hold the gun button down at all times there you go clawing your way
Starting point is 01:18:13 there you go and I'm at the point I'm like this is this should be an option in the menu yep yep hey if I want to mash out the gun let me double tap and hold it do I want to hold you know turn the gun on just let me hold down I think in
Starting point is 01:18:29 five like gunslinger does that pseudo automatically with some of Dante's guns like it's great it's great this is this I put up a stream showing off how to how to actually put it together feels like a feature that like you know it would take a while for
Starting point is 01:18:45 work to get back to the team that like hey this is a problem two years they'll finally do like okay yeah cool regardless yeah so I've been playing all the DMC games again with this new control thing and yeah DMC 3 has a bunch
Starting point is 01:19:03 of stinker enemies like a bunch of a bunch of like moving dummies that are awful to fight like the the floating armors that you can only hit from the back and the floating angel wing guys
Starting point is 01:19:19 that you just have to do air attacks on over and over and over and over and over let me pull up this list here you know you don't like your your fucking your walking exploters um no they're fine actually let's say I have no
Starting point is 01:19:35 particular issues with them check out the hells the hells are all okay I got no issues with the hells the starfish that disappears when you look at it okay I'm not a fan up well here's the thing
Starting point is 01:19:51 you have to compare all of them to blitz you know what I mean in terms of just like you're not playing anymore okay now you're allowed okay never mind you know like there's a comparison point right like whatever the level of annoying
Starting point is 01:20:09 in this is to deal with the soul eater or whatever is like is it on the level of you have stopped playing the video game I also want to say going through DMC4 I think that's the only game I encountered it in which you get
Starting point is 01:20:25 to secret missions at the point in which you cannot complete them there's a secret mission with Nero early in DMC4 I think it's like the third one where you have to style up non violently but you can't do it
Starting point is 01:20:41 before you get the hold the enemies hit and it's like why is this fucking here yeah yeah yeah true like awful terrible those games are so good
Starting point is 01:20:57 DMC4 feels better than I remember like I am I'm playing through it and I can feel like there's an argument to be made for why people prefer the way this feels compared to 5 like I still prefer 5 personally
Starting point is 01:21:13 but like it's there I get it I I'm always gonna just love the way Nero feels in that like it um yeah I don't know I think
Starting point is 01:21:29 the thing is too as well like I enjoy things more than Dante so a lot of DMC feeling comes from like comparing the way Dante feels from 3, 4 and 5 hey yeah actually going back you know what else
Starting point is 01:21:45 you know how you'll have it take years ago and you're like maybe that matured yeah I don't like Dante in 4 interesting I never did I like him a lot in 5 I really dislike him in 4
Starting point is 01:22:01 I don't like him at all I really thought you did interesting no I always thought Nero was way more fun to play in 4 cause yeah I felt that way day 1 and then like as special edition brings even more to the table
Starting point is 01:22:17 I kind of am just like yeah I have more fun going elsewhere like I would rather play as lady or Trish in 4 than Dante okay interesting it's like I remember when we were talking about doing the DMC 5 LP
Starting point is 01:22:35 and we're like well we're gonna split the characters right and you were like you were fucking adamant your foot came down and was like I'm gonna play as fucking Nero I'm like okay let me let me check and then I got the code and I flew through it
Starting point is 01:22:51 you know what no Dante in 5 is a-okay I'm gonna play those sections he got stuff he did it's like fucking piloting a race car um anyway
Starting point is 01:23:07 moving on from Devil May Cry those games are still good would you believe it they're still great great games I played I don't know if I talked about that probably not the timing doesn't look like it worked I played a little bit of a indie game called Sorry We're Open
Starting point is 01:23:23 it is a RPG maker game it's on Steam it is a I gotta say rogue like RPG kind of like first person battles kind of SMT thing kind of earthboundy
Starting point is 01:23:39 it is you are the manager of your local grocery store and you are trying to get through your day and clean up messes and deal with random events like you found a plastic bag on the floor oops it's covered in puke
Starting point is 01:23:57 now your whole team is nauseous and most of your attacks you have to throw trash at customers or your party members standard attacks are goof off which does good damage but also corporate docks
Starting point is 01:24:13 your pay and you have to be wandering around on your breaks putting people's lunches back in the fridge make sure to punch in on the right time card because if you punch in on the wrong time card they won't pay you for your shift and you're being docked if you're using the wrong cleaner for the floor because that's money out of the pocket
Starting point is 01:24:29 and um I was having a long day and was really tired and legit could only do about 45 minutes before I started to become like tangibly ill so
Starting point is 01:24:45 step one how did the world introduce you to this game the dev sent me a code okay this was not the product of people seeing it and then immediately running your direction and
Starting point is 01:25:01 basically I think that is in fact what happened but the person who saw it and sent it was the dev because what you're describing to me sounds like something that would lead to the audience screaming for you to experience an existential nightmare live on stream
Starting point is 01:25:17 by playing well I did okay the anxiety so it's like a kind of horror tinged and it's intended to make you stressed out
Starting point is 01:25:33 because nothing seems to be the right decision and it very actually accurately hits the same awful anxiety centers as working like retail for like a double shift or something like that
Starting point is 01:25:51 great game kind of makes me sick will never play it again ever good good job it's called sorry we're open I'm getting massive earthbound vibes from it
Starting point is 01:26:07 in addition to the horror tinge looking at just footage here I mean how how far did you get in yeah okay that's about it supposedly about five five and a half hours long
Starting point is 01:26:27 depending on your luck well you did it you can say you've done it kicks you back to a part of the warehouse that's all fucked up and goes hey this is bad for your employee record this is your first warning you know what though I'm looking at it as well
Starting point is 01:26:43 this is a earthbound style game if this were first person that 40 minutes would probably be 40 seconds I imagine like if this were walking around the aisles in first person with a fairly realistic art style
Starting point is 01:26:59 that could have gotten way worse like I absolutely know that the dev knows exactly what they're talking about because the first NPC you see in the entire game is an old man on his mobility scooter that is pretending not to hear you
Starting point is 01:27:17 like that is such a dead on accurate fucking awful part of the job that I'm like oh no they were there they did it retail nightmare moving on from something
Starting point is 01:27:33 that makes me sick to hey did you ever play Octopath 1 yeah for a bit yeah what caused you to drop off it time for me I got pretty far in Octopath 1
Starting point is 01:27:49 and I was in that period where like everybody I knew was playing Octopath 1 and like madly in love with Octopath 1 and then all of them every single person I knew stopped playing it all at the same time I only had two friends
Starting point is 01:28:05 that actually beat the game and they beat the game because what they did is they ignored all of the story and just wandered around to all the dungeons and got super fucked up overpowered and then steamrolled the rest of the game
Starting point is 01:28:21 like as fast as possible um Octopath 1 had that weird problem where none of the characters would acknowledge that the other ones existed and in their own stories the other characters didn't exist they were just
Starting point is 01:28:37 people that happened to be in your party but they did in every single story element they basically they poofed as ghosts they were meant to be in optional attachments to it yeah and it was really really bizarre
Starting point is 01:28:53 and then you see an article where the devs were like well we thought people would look at the eight characters and then figure out what characters they wanted and then go make a party of four and then do all of their stories and then beat the game and I'm like I don't know anyone who did that
Starting point is 01:29:09 every single person I know went and got all eight and then did the second chapter of all eight and then did the third chapter that is that is the most normal logical way to proceed based on the way this genre has been forever
Starting point is 01:29:27 so Octopath 2 is here and that's all I should mention that I was given a free copy of the game I was planning to stream it regardless and was going to buy it but then I got it for free but keep that in mind obviously as that makes everything I'm about to say technically sponsored
Starting point is 01:29:43 so it's still eight characters it's still eight separate stories but they have definitely listened to those criticisms when you meet so in Octopath 1 I met let's say the thief
Starting point is 01:29:59 Therian he would be standing there and he would talk to him and be like do you want to join my team and he would go yes and then it would say do you want to see Therian's part 1 go to the bar
Starting point is 01:30:15 and you can watch it and it was really weird now at the very least you go into a town and there's a little story sequence that explains you lost her purse and you found her purse and then you interact a little bit and she goes oh I need to go to the city
Starting point is 01:30:31 I need friends to get me to the city can we all go together blah blah blah and explains why you would need a party and every person's individual story ends with them going I need to go get people to help me
Starting point is 01:30:47 do this and inside the actual combat characters will talk to each other so I'm sure you remember in Octopath 1 there was the boost system where you would power up somebody like 4 times to get like a really
Starting point is 01:31:03 massive hit and they would turn into a dragon ball character and then they would always have some kind of sassy line associated with their profession now after doing so and doing their move the other characters will respond
Starting point is 01:31:19 to the thing they just said throughout most of the random battles that's not a whole lot like in the grand scheme of things makes the biggest fucking difference in the world
Starting point is 01:31:35 in terms of tone it no longer feels like you have 8 completely disconnected freaks who refuse to talk to each other now when you're going into somebody's story it feels like they're letting them
Starting point is 01:31:51 take the lead not that they don't fucking exist yeah no when you're grinding out whatever P5 Tartarus what makes it bearable is the little skits the characters
Starting point is 01:32:07 have with each other while you're driving around on top of that they have also after playing live live it's really crazy how Octopath is just a direct sequel to a Super Nintendo game from 96
Starting point is 01:32:25 the other thing is they made it so that everybody has two path actions one during the night and if you hit the right trigger you just swap between day and night instantly like you hit the button the sun goes down the music changes to the night version of that same track
Starting point is 01:32:41 and everybody's path action changes to a completely different one so your merchant starts out with the ability to hire people to be extra party members or then goes to being able to
Starting point is 01:32:57 just buy shit off people just buy random items off people the dancer can also get people as random party members or just tell them to give them the items if your goddamn level is high enough it just seems like one of those kind of sad to say it seems like one of those games
Starting point is 01:33:13 just directly replaces the first oh geez okay wow like people are asking me like hey do I need to play Octopath Traveler one before I play two like no in fact now that Octopath Traveler two exists you should probably
Starting point is 01:33:29 forget the first game exists at all really it's it's the same game it's very very very much a direct sequel with numerous mechanical improvements and some narrative improvements as well
Starting point is 01:33:45 that make like do you want a hamburger or do you want a cheeseburger so it's a direct sequel but do the events that happened beforehand absolutely not when I say direct sequel I mean it is like they added cheese to your burger a mechanical
Starting point is 01:34:01 sequel yeah okay the other thing is I look at that and I also look at you know triangle strategy was also around the corner but that looks like a different enough thing entirely it's very different triangle strategy seems
Starting point is 01:34:17 cool but in the time that I was playing with it I was just constantly sitting there going when am I going to get to play the game like I did a five or four and a half five hour stream of it I played one battle
Starting point is 01:34:33 and I was like this is awful this is like yes this the story is interesting and there's a lot of Game of Thrones political blah blah blah but fucking good lord when will I
Starting point is 01:34:49 get to actually play hmm yeah I just I'm still reeling over the idea that Octopath was made with the thought that you would wander and make heroes of light I guess and then decide I'm satisfied with
Starting point is 01:35:05 that you know you'd browse the shelf pick four and then that's the most insane ever like how could you make a game so much a love letter to the genre and name the game Octopath Traveler
Starting point is 01:35:21 and then conclude that people should actually only get four of those eight well those are your choices man because you can only fit four people in the party that's so insane like people go see everything and get everything
Starting point is 01:35:37 and then you know like rotate from battle to like any whatever that's why I'm zany that's bafflingly insane okay so you can straight up just replace one with two well that's encouraging
Starting point is 01:35:53 because I do like I love the aesthetic of Octopath enough that I do whenever I see you know screenshots of it pop up I go ah yeah that thing looks really cool you know but I never really saw myself necessarily heading back to it
Starting point is 01:36:09 but um yeah if two does a lot to improve that that's interesting because yeah it looks like beautiful it's really strange because like it's I don't know it's like narrative window dressing right like
Starting point is 01:36:25 it's really like it's still a totally disconnected stories for the most part but like just these little details make it feel very different and it just it makes all the difference in the world
Starting point is 01:36:41 that's I think that's pretty much it for me I think if you want to see more of this crap you go down to twitch.tv slash pat stairs at and be playing that woe long on Thursday yeah I mean the difference between characters that feel like
Starting point is 01:36:57 they're you know part of the group versus those who are extremely detachable um couldn't be like more fucking underlined with the the mass effect characters that you know we've been meeting in such and how Kazumi and Zaid
Starting point is 01:37:13 you know it's like well no matter how interesting you think they are or not they just feel like less than you know um and if you were to build up an entire party of Zaid's you know where you're like oh you're a cool like
Starting point is 01:37:29 looking character and you have an interesting story but you don't really actually get yourself involved with anything happening um that would suck and like you know just to I guess you know as we're going into the the the the what we're going
Starting point is 01:37:45 what we're getting into um Mass Effect 3 like I we got like a a a great scene on the Citadel with with a a fucking Prothian on the Citadel you know Javik is actually here and having that moment and I'm like that was
Starting point is 01:38:01 really cool dear god do I want so much more of these but the fact that he's a DLC character means that that's just not going to be a thing and hey listen listen I want to point something out before you even continue Javik I think has the most reactionable
Starting point is 01:38:17 dialogue of any character in Mass Effect 3 he was clearly supposed to be part of the main campaign he is absolutely the Mona Lisa Smile cut out and sold as DLC like like meme image like he is the most
Starting point is 01:38:33 this character was clearly done and part of the main thing and then cut out to be sold later yeah he has dialogue for everything he is he was supposed to be the most important character in that story and I would not fucking expect otherwise
Starting point is 01:38:49 based on what he is but the game so in two any time someone's not important they don't even they don't go into the dialogue tree they just spit it at you right they just spit it at you with no conversation in three they make good use of
Starting point is 01:39:05 that in the sense that even the most in depth characters like your original party from one they will sometimes be like hey I don't have any conversations for you but I can just spit a couple things your way because we're in between missions right and I didn't mind that because it was like yeah
Starting point is 01:39:21 fair enough sometimes it's going to just be a light little banter here and there with Javik though he's like Kasumi and Jaiid in that it's almost you almost never get anything out of him when you go down to that room you know and
Starting point is 01:39:37 it just it's a bummer because you're like I want more like I like what you've I like the cut of your jib I like what you've shown this is an interesting premise I like your new brand of insane space racism and we I like
Starting point is 01:39:53 especially pretending that it's somehow superior to the horrible bitarian space racism or the typical flavors we know and love of slavery but regardless no it just does like I kind of imagine like yeah that disconnected thing where the party just exists on its
Starting point is 01:40:09 own you know like that would not only be like a flaw in a game but like that would absolutely make me probably stop playing if I didn't feel any momentum there you know the camaraderie of a party is sort of
Starting point is 01:40:25 what propels a lot of the RPGs I like the most forward you know but yeah like look at FF7 right like is the somewhat nonsensical series of events that lead to you stopping Sephiroth the draw
Starting point is 01:40:41 of fantasy 7 no it's the weirdos weirdo idiot gang that you're hanging out and the FF7 remake realize that which is why so much of that game is just hanging out with those weirdos yeah still think about Barrett
Starting point is 01:40:57 and fucking cloud kicking the biggest door you've ever seen in a game because they've lost their brain cells without the girls around and and you know I've talked about how like my favorite you know MCU scene is the fucking the party
Starting point is 01:41:13 you know the after party and the everything that I'm led to expect or at least the impression I get is that Citadel is going to be just that right it's going to be just let's hang with the crew yeah so
Starting point is 01:41:29 treating that as just a secondary thing or just ignoring it entirely is crucial don't fuck that up anyways okay so yeah gonna be touch and go on the schedule but of course you know hi-fi rush continues
Starting point is 01:41:45 Mass Effect 3 continues go to my twitter to see what days we're going to be streaming and what days I'm not it's going to get a lot more sparing with my schedule especially since
Starting point is 01:42:01 I've you know I've talked about it but this whole health program thing I'm doing is is kicking up into high gear so how's that going by the way yeah going well you know just yeah can numbers getting better like I said you know 30
Starting point is 01:42:17 pounds down and overall better charted like diabetes related stuff and everything seems to be very very getting you know getting getting way way into the safer zones of
Starting point is 01:42:33 that and it's going to continue but it's also going to get intense enough that I'm going to not be able to stream as often so yeah I might like if I if I can go at the rate I want to I'll be able to do at least
Starting point is 01:42:49 you know one session a week of what we're doing and then like I'll get like a get into fighting game slash a willy versus whatever in there but some weeks I'll just not be able to get in a full session of what I want so
Starting point is 01:43:05 unfortunately this means that like you know it is what it is you know like I'm my pacing on games is I know that it's a it kind of sucks and what I do what I talk about well I do what I can I do what I can and and no I mean what are you talking about
Starting point is 01:43:21 yeah so hi-fi rush you know you know might take a second before we we get get fully there but I'm going to do the best I can with what time we have to record it on the weekly schedule so stay tuned
Starting point is 01:43:37 I have a health question because when I moved out to BC and I started losing a bunch of weight so I can't see it like we talked about this before like you look at yourself you look at photos and it's like what's the difference around you're like oh you lost my yeah I don't see it I
Starting point is 01:43:53 look just as fat and stupid as ever yeah but what I did notice is I used to take the dog for a 20-30 minute walk and I would come I would come back and I'd be like hmm right I'd be like oh and then the dog would be
Starting point is 01:44:09 a fucking pile of goo because you've seen that thing he's not athletic he's fat ugly dumb dog love him but now I take the dog for a longer walk and he's even dumber and uglier and fatter and I get back and like yep
Starting point is 01:44:25 yep right have you had have you had that happen yet because to me that's the only noticeable thing where you do something you used to do that made you feel like you were sweating and shitting yourself and now you're like oh yeah cool I did it I have the numbers I would go on that two mile walk come back
Starting point is 01:44:41 and my heart rate will have been will have budged much slider now than when I first started doing them you know like you would see like I'd come back and it'd be like oh yeah heart rates and we're sweating we're moving you know etc now I do it and I
Starting point is 01:44:57 come back in the same time frame and my heart rate is much better about that you know and then like yeah I put on a suit and like something that was tight fitting last I don't know you know August or September
Starting point is 01:45:13 I've now got a full fist worth of space between my belt and the edge of the suit you know so like I'm like oh yeah no my clothes is fitting looser like it's quite there's stuff there even though you don't see it
Starting point is 01:45:31 Thank you just yeah but all this to say you know the the recording ability of this is going to suffer a little bit but you know hopefully whatever you all get it in the meantime gonna continue putting out
Starting point is 01:45:47 bits and shorts and some dumb chats over on Woolly vs the Algorithm we put out the fucking competitively explained French clip good times on that obviously gone in 60 and
Starting point is 01:46:05 you know a bunch of other just like little things in the meantime so yeah no shortage of content just be a little patient with me for getting around to the end of the current LPs and that'll be that so I did forget there was one thing that I had forgotten to mention about my week
Starting point is 01:46:21 last night I was informed that last night was in fact the last moment in the world that anyone had the chance to play Rumbleverse so I hopped on stream and played
Starting point is 01:46:37 Total Warhammer instead there you go also Babylon's Fall also that too Rumbleverse died preemptively due to some epic server based that's like extra depressing I'm really glad I didn't wait until
Starting point is 01:46:55 the final day to have a sort of like oh we'll see it off as the countdown happens right cause like Overwatch people did that and they were there till the last possible second no unceremoniously the tablecloth was pulled
Starting point is 01:47:11 the seats were removed and everyone was left going what the fuck so farewell more than anything I'd be more curious about like we can all kind of ballpark it but like what is the exact reason
Starting point is 01:47:27 that Rumbleverse died after 5 months it's very fast it's gotta be just numbers right it's just gotta be numbers there's nothing else to it we set our expectations here you came in below that the cosmetics were not selling enough
Starting point is 01:47:43 to make up for it but to anyone that didn't hear when I was talking about the stream we did where Keith jumped on but it's like there was a hint of a whisper of a possibility that
Starting point is 01:47:59 they're trying to figure out a way to maybe make it not the end of Rumbleverse whatever that may mean so figures crossed they're trying stuff we'll see okay
Starting point is 01:48:15 let's take a quick break is this the part where we pee and get more water so we have to pee later? that's exactly the one PRB alright thank you for your patience thank you
Starting point is 01:48:31 what? that's that's how you thank people in the in the Portuguese you're a portaboo now? I might be a portaboo I tell you what
Starting point is 01:48:47 the way that shit tastes I might I might be a portaboo I'm in they got me and I saw the word Jogo at least once or twice
Starting point is 01:49:03 oh yeah you did fucking Jogo it's so mysterious ruined forever just like a fucking in the middle of a sentence that does nothing to do with anything and it's like yeah that's done that's over that's ruined
Starting point is 01:49:21 alright we portabooin but first a word from our sponsors this week the podcast is sponsored by Hello Fresh
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Starting point is 01:50:01 things and sometimes you know you got your like home at classes that'll kind of show you the basics of it but it feels as if like even if you just go off the basics of what you've grown up with there's a certain point where you have to go I want to learn
Starting point is 01:50:17 how to do this myself I was not grown up with any cooking skills I would help my mom cook something for five minutes and then she would tell me stop that you're screwing it up leave and then I would leave the kitchen
Starting point is 01:50:33 banished there you go there's a point when you have your own agency where you have to make the decision for yourself to be like damn I'm just gonna fucking go for it I'm gonna try it um and then you put yourself out there you go you look up some recipes and
Starting point is 01:50:49 like you know what tonight I'm taking care of dinner and then you feel all good and you're sipping some wine and you're cooking and you're frying it up and you're doing that you're having that little moment where you're looking at yourself in third person going yeah I'm doing it and then you pour it out on the plate
Starting point is 01:51:05 and you have a bite and holy fucking shit dear god no please no no I don't want it no one no one must know your shame time to scavenge the neighborhood bins for sustenance
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Starting point is 01:53:45 things are happening what? shut up no way get out things can't happen no one believed but now you see it's real things have happened
Starting point is 01:54:01 this fucking morning we got the announcement for Elden Ring Shadow of the Erd Tree the expansion currently in development shock and awe who could have foreseen this coming
Starting point is 01:54:17 I certainly I certainly did not have conversations with people about expanded content fucking me either I sure didn't what? shut up that didn't happen
Starting point is 01:54:33 I'm very excited for the possibility of finding out more about let's say, Michaela let's say literally anything I'm very excited for the possibility of more weapons and all kinds of fun
Starting point is 01:54:49 new things as we know the the souls dlc is always where the good shit is I think it's fairly I mean everyone can argue but I feel like this is going to be one of those from software likes to do hey what if you went really far in the past
Starting point is 01:55:05 or really far in the future fuck with time this looks like it's going to be taking place way after the end of the main game that tree is dead that capital is gone it also looks gross and undead like this stuff underneath it
Starting point is 01:55:21 you say that but I could also see this as an excuse to go back to the night of you know long knives itself right I could see this as a way to take you to the moment that set everything up all that aside nothing but excitement
Starting point is 01:55:37 for the new Elden Ring shit yay I fucking hate the name of this dlc it's boring and sucks and is the most uncreative fucking thing the game has done so far dear god man
Starting point is 01:55:55 you know what I hate about this announcement this is the only dlc announcement I can ever remember from from software that doesn't come with the trailer it in fact comes with a picture it comes with a picture it says to me this shit is far away
Starting point is 01:56:13 if you think oh I got to get my character ready for the dlc fucking don't worry you will have time I seriously deal believe this game will even come out this the the night did I did I say
Starting point is 01:56:29 night of long knives excuse me night of black dives not germany but the fictional one that has been named clearly for the german event anyways yeah no this thing
Starting point is 01:56:45 is this thing is a long long time away very far and I think the reason for that is we've played most of the souls games ok let's take let's take
Starting point is 01:57:03 the dark souls games 1 2 3 when they released dlc what was that dlc like that dlc was like one or two very large areas compared to the regular game like one zone
Starting point is 01:57:19 compared to the regular game so Bloodborne slightly smaller zones right so it's like hey we got 15-20 levels here's three more levels right when you do that to Elden Ring
Starting point is 01:57:35 that's like a country that's like an area the size of limb grave at least that's big that's like a whole video game yeah I don't know when it's coming
Starting point is 01:57:53 I don't know that I'm going to say for sure that it's impossibly super duper far away I think that if I had to guess I would guess that this has been
Starting point is 01:58:13 worked on for a very long time I think that work began on this prior to us even getting the game in our hands and
Starting point is 01:58:29 I I don't know that I would put it off into the impossible future I think it might come a bit more within a normal time frame I say next March
Starting point is 01:58:47 that's what I'm saying early next year before March 31 of next year yeah okay I'd say early next year at the latest possibly late this year maybe if I'm just and I think the whole map will be
Starting point is 01:59:07 one big swamp the way you were phrasing that though made it sound almost like years away or some crazy shit like that not that long but usually when From Software announces a DLC it's like here's the trailer it'll be out in three months
Starting point is 01:59:25 or you know about it before the game comes out I think Ash's Von Darrell and Ring City weren't named but they were known to exist before the game dropped yeah no they've been working on this for a fucking minute
Starting point is 01:59:41 um the scale though is always the question yeah so what if they redo the whole map but it's dark I'm very excited to see people's completely insane infeasible takes
Starting point is 02:00:03 whatever the fuck they do it's whatever they do it's going to dominate the entire game fucking attention span cycle for the the entire season that it comes out in
Starting point is 02:00:19 again so I feel bad if you're releasing a game in the next year that is in any way similar to anything that we're talking about because no date means you get to just be nervous that it's coming out at the same time as your game I know that we can expect to see those
Starting point is 02:00:41 coliseums open up it would be fun if they stop if they actually... does that already happen? oh yeah right true I didn't go back to that update that's true never mind it's multiplayer there's a little matchmaking doll in the talking shit ignore me
Starting point is 02:00:57 but my the end of that sentence was going to be it would be fun to see an official implementation of some of the things like random item you know mode or like some of that crazy mod stuff that people do for fun fun runs
Starting point is 02:01:15 put in a built-in randomizer official randomizer come on official official that'd be great that'd be great make a character that's all about chaos and randomness and have them be someone you talk to that just fucks with the whole thing
Starting point is 02:01:31 also re-record all the dialogue to match the manga oh yeah yeah get the alexander manga version in there yeah get the fucking gag manga shit in there actually all you would have
Starting point is 02:01:47 to do is re-record it so that the tarnished themselves have inner thoughts while people are talking and you would capture the manga's tone just straight up have like while alex is talking to you just like is he
Starting point is 02:02:03 is there someone in there this is a pot what's going what you know I'm gonna kiss him yeah so big news everybody's staring at that picture there's a 100 megabyte version of that art on from
Starting point is 02:02:21 on the elton ring website you can download nice the highest quality conceivable wallpaper ever I'm sure there will be many youtube videos about it as of literally 10 minutes ago I mean yeah hey it's the urg tree it's dying and then there's a bunch of ghosts
Starting point is 02:02:39 and also it's leaking gold goo gross it'd be cool as well if it gave you a little bit of the past present and future in the sense that like you know you get
Starting point is 02:02:57 well depends on what ending you went for I suppose but if you went for the worst possible ending you could see there being like more content to the to the story after that right so what they're what they've tended to
Starting point is 02:03:13 do is whenever you go into the future in these games you go so far into the future that your ending didn't matter because eventually it'll all just ground down into bullshit like in ring city
Starting point is 02:03:29 like no matter what ending you get you get to the end of the world and it's just endless ash as far as the I can see in every direction fast forward long enough and we get to the great torrent war between the factions of those who are like fuck you how dare you
Starting point is 02:03:47 bloodshed on a goddamn global scale and maybe even a trip to like the land of reeds or something you know there's some isn't there some some wheat and reeds in the in the shop on the there is but I'm pretty sure that's a reference to ashina
Starting point is 02:04:05 I mean from the Sekiro I mean the like the land of like you know the trees there so geographically you know what you're looking at but yeah yeah and it's interesting because like that would be the area where the capital is but there's like nothing there's like a couple archways
Starting point is 02:04:21 that's what that's to me what makes me think it's in the far far future the tree is still there but nothing else is the orientation of the tree shape is where the capitals should be well the capitals is literally touching the tree right the trees
Starting point is 02:04:37 in the middle of the city mm-hmm yeah whatever the fuck in whatever the fuck it is get ready for the coolest bosses that are somehow going to be even cooler than Hoara millennia
Starting point is 02:04:53 and and blades so what's going to be interesting is what's going to happen to the main games pacing because Elden Ring's like final 10% is pretty weak compared to
Starting point is 02:05:09 you know what came before it but now if you play the DLC afterwards it means that like the back half of the winter area and Faro Missoula are just going to be that one weird part that's just not as good as the rest of the game it's everything everything
Starting point is 02:05:27 gets if you play through all of that also okay how depending on how big this gets to it could be an impossible ask of somebody to do all of it together in one shot like it can get beyond stupid
Starting point is 02:05:43 of an ass here's what I foresee what I foresee is that the access to that DLC is actually going to be pre-capital like in like before you fight
Starting point is 02:05:59 Morgoth and it will be a different little dimension or planet or whatever like all the other ones were it'll just be hard as fucking shit and expect you to really bring it well like for fuck's sake you know the the you know the fucking four belfries
Starting point is 02:06:19 mm-hmm you just put a portal to the last belfry that doesn't have a portal just move the chest over five feet put the DLC portal right there well I'm glad I kept my save um yeah
Starting point is 02:06:35 I don't feel oh I'm recreating a PC save yeah with a with a mage and I've been picking away at it it's very different than my Jesus run I would I would I would love to go set one up specifically for this but I just don't think I'm going to have the time
Starting point is 02:06:51 you know I would love to go in and like fuck around with like yeah like a you know an arcane build or something wild you know but I just I won't I won't have the ability to set the main thing playing through Elden Ring again the main thing
Starting point is 02:07:07 is that once you have completed pretty much everything you wanted to on the first run you discover just how much you don't need to do like you need to you need to get the
Starting point is 02:07:23 parts that you need and want and that's it like 99% of those little catacombs nah not necessary why well because you know what goddamn ghost yeah yeah what's what's your favorite
Starting point is 02:07:41 ash go get that one from that place you're good maybe do I want to run Jesus or magic well then pick the the fancy one you want to be lined to I mean maybe do a couple of them to get your you know your particular whatever level up
Starting point is 02:07:57 ash things you know but yeah no absolutely you can cut a lot of that down and I can just fucking respect really yeah so for me like I I did Limgrave and I did a bunch of Cahalid and I did Laurena and then I be lined
Starting point is 02:08:13 my way through Ronnie's quest and got the Darkmoon Greatsword and the carrion staff and the spells that I wanted and Tish for my ghost ash and I'm like oh cool I have not walked into what's the yellow place called
Starting point is 02:08:31 not Langdell the one before it the area around Langdell fuck I can't remember it after Laurena you go up the elevator to the plateau the plateau Altus Plateau
Starting point is 02:08:47 have a level 120 character with every spell I actually want and all the gear I want and the sword I want like all I could go for is a couple more upgrades on the gear like I could probably take my character and walk into the DLC right now
Starting point is 02:09:05 let's see where they put it let's see where they put it you know they could just put it touching Nicholas hand I mean it could be like because the other bit too is that
Starting point is 02:09:21 like the pacing of where that goes in the past I think I feels like they've like well if you put it right at the end of where the fucking final boss fight is or so it just creates a weird
Starting point is 02:09:37 that's crazy that's so deep it upsets it's super deep and it upsets the flow you know so like yeah right before the turning point right before the the
Starting point is 02:09:53 point of no return kind of thing no it can't be before that because if it's before that then when people point of no return it then they can't go get the DLC it's got to be it's got to be out and about somewhere that you can just go to right because like think about
Starting point is 02:10:09 Duke's Archive fucking Dark Souls 1 the DLC requires you to get to Anor Londo that's the and that's about 60% through the game right well you have to get to the archive specifically
Starting point is 02:10:25 yeah Dark Souls 2 is somewhat similar the DLCs have multiple entrances and then Dark Souls 3 you have to get to fucking the cathedral which is actually at like 30% mark but in 2 each of those spots was pre point of no return
Starting point is 02:10:41 um like Anor Londo into into um what should we call it um uh archives are like you know dead middle I'd say right I'd say it's dead middle maybe like 51% yeah
Starting point is 02:10:57 so you know the switch over after post capital is not dead middle at all that's getting much later right yeah so I bet it's gonna be in Altus Plateau somewhere
Starting point is 02:11:13 or in the underground some fucking portal some NPC will be you know they're gonna have to sign post it because like do you remember when Dark Souls 1's DLC came out there were like game facts threads of like where where we'll fucking how do I access the content I paid for
Starting point is 02:11:29 I bought the DLC and where the fuck is it right yeah imagine something on the scale of Elden Ring like yeah there's an NPC somewhere go find him I think Bloodborne's probably the most absurd they ever had it pick up an item and then go get
Starting point is 02:11:47 killed by something that didn't use to kill you sorry go get not killed by something that used to kill you you have to get grabbed by the invisible hand that used to kill you yeah yeah yeah um
Starting point is 02:12:03 and and I guess the other thing too is like okay so think about uh the difficulty spike you get for you know um fucking Manus for uh Suralon for fucking oh it's gonna be the hardest stuff in the game
Starting point is 02:12:19 Orphan of Cause like the rules are now nonsense the level of difficulty that has been enabled you know is just yeah like whatever the 1.0 versions of what some of these bosses were gonna be like I can only imagine it's like hey
Starting point is 02:12:35 do um do uh uh uh uh fucking do the festival but alone actually I was actually you know it's funny that you thought of the festival because my brain actually said fight Radon but he's fine yeah just
Starting point is 02:12:51 real one-on-one version of the festival go have fun uh anyway so yay to that we'll see what comes of it um that's uh that's that's when you want to announce your game
Starting point is 02:13:07 that's a that's a pretty normal way to do it hey everybody this is coming soon working on this uh there's other ways you can announce your game such as on a fucking investor call you can have a bunch of fucking suits being like hey guys
Starting point is 02:13:23 we got a lot of great earnings coming in this quarter and uh you know you want to stay tuned we got lots more exciting things to come including the highly anticipated mortal combat 12 and Suicide Squad kill the justice league
Starting point is 02:13:39 ambitious launch projections strike up the profits we got a we're going to talk about kill the justice league at some point right well for now Mortal Kombat 12 is leaked via
Starting point is 02:13:55 an investors call and then um straight up Ed Boone of course jumps on twitter and he's like hey so who heard the news about Injustice 3 I
Starting point is 02:14:11 love you so there you go there you go folks um gee what a surprise anyway I don't know hopefully the return of fucking Takeda right they're going to make a new Mortal Kombat game
Starting point is 02:14:27 yay are you crazy wow but are they going to be trapped in a new world of Street Fighter 6 yes they will Netherrealm's been putting it together though you know I'm looking forward to it
Starting point is 02:14:45 I like what they've been doing every time they put out a game I'm like maybe this game will feel good to play and then I play it and they go nope try again better luck next time and who will join the cast as a guest character well let's check out the cast of
Starting point is 02:15:01 Dead by Daylight which one of these will show up as an MK guest because the Trapper oh my god it's him everyone's favorite you've done it you've outlined the potential list um
Starting point is 02:15:17 yeah not much else to it really it's just yeah it's just fucking depressing as hell like I thought the lamest way to announce something ever was Ono coming out with a fucking awful looking build of Street Fighter Cross Tekken
Starting point is 02:15:33 like it sucks right now like no specifically Ono coming out while a bunch of Capcom execs are just off frame, off camera going like hands are swiping at him as he's walking out on stage with the Blanka
Starting point is 02:15:49 um and a fucking trailer for something that's not done that has not been like it specifically says for internal use only like not approved for outside eyes and then you just fast forward pass that to the trailer
Starting point is 02:16:05 footage huh god oh man if only if only and then the second look at the game is actually the really shiny one that looks pretty hype
Starting point is 02:16:21 when you've got the big budget trailer to go I'm still like before all the other stuff with Ono I can feel the resentment and I've said this like 100 times the intense resentment of everyone working on that project
Starting point is 02:16:37 because the reveal trailer even goes out of the way to like put the logos in an order that you would not think it was Street Fighter Cross Tekken you just think it's a Tekken game so the pan down to reveal where you was supposed
Starting point is 02:16:53 to be the biggest pop in the world and it was fucking like ruined and so now these guys are working on the CG trailer in which the pop doesn't work anymore fucking stupid the trailer has a built in
Starting point is 02:17:09 pause for applause right hold for applause wait for the audience and then go alright where was I and continue and it just becomes nothing uh yeah yeah no anyways um
Starting point is 02:17:25 that's coming um uh uh uh so not much else to fucking Suicide Squad on that side except for the part where you're gonna need to always be online to play the single
Starting point is 02:17:41 player video game oh there's way more than that brother there's way more so they've been showing off this Suicide Squad game but you remember we made the same conversation about Gotham Knights
Starting point is 02:17:57 remember where we're like they keep showing off this game but they won't show the game they keep showing a bunch of cut scenes about the tone of the game oh you're talking about the fucking screen shot with all the fucking numbers
Starting point is 02:18:13 and yeah okay okay okay they keep doing that they keep showing like oh I'm Captain Boomerang I'm from Straya oh the Justice League whatever and they never ever show what it is right and over and over and over my email my business email is fucking flooded with Suicide Squad
Starting point is 02:18:29 shit terrible right and then you're like okay here it is here's the big show off we're gonna have these four crazy villains from DC and they're gonna jump around and shoot ugly destiny guns
Starting point is 02:18:45 and then they start going through the presentation and they spend like fucking 3-4 minutes on upgrading your gear score and show like the ugliest stat screen I've ever seen in my life and it's like oh my fucking god
Starting point is 02:19:01 this looks fucking terrible man so I have to admit when I saw that Captain Boomerang screen shot with the fucking whatever plus 0.2% poison resistance, like all that like yes my eyes
Starting point is 02:19:17 glazed over but I also kind of went like well don't some of you guys like this shit that I hate all the time anyways like I just kind of went isn't this isn't someone out there like oh man I love these fucking poison resistant bullets and
Starting point is 02:19:33 slight number of things that it's just I just hate everything about it all the time anyway I don't know so I can I can actually explain this to you quite in depth because yeah that's like I have this ready for you
Starting point is 02:19:49 so are there people out there that like statistical min-maxing on their action game to build builds around absolutely those people like Neo, Stranger of Paradise and to some degree stuff like Destiny Destiny comes to mind for all of that
Starting point is 02:20:05 right so Destiny has been the archetype that you see Anthem stealing from they're taking Destiny's ideas basically right the difference is in Destiny shooting guns
Starting point is 02:20:21 fucking rules and every time you get a different gun it feels different the numbers are a byproduct of that they're an addition to that kind of thing in addition when you're playing Diablo for example another game that has like a lot of gear stuff the gear is like
Starting point is 02:20:37 everything and you're constantly drowning in shit part of this cool action RPG loop that you really like they're not being tacked on to a mediocre third person shooter and more than that Rocksteady
Starting point is 02:20:53 invented the way the modern western superhero action game plays they invented the Batman combat which became the Spider-Man combat which became western
Starting point is 02:21:09 good combat in these types of games and to see them go look I'm rolling around shooting a gun at like every single enemy's gigantic glowing ugly weak point on all these Brainiac robots like really
Starting point is 02:21:25 just just just you can look at that trailer and you can remove Harley Quinn and King Shark and Deadshot and Boomerang and the Justice League and replace them with the cast of Fuse sure
Starting point is 02:21:41 and see nothing and so when when you say oh you're gonna kill the Justice League oh what I'm gonna, Superman's gonna stand there invincible while I shoot the glowing weak points that cause a building to fall on like it's fucking
Starting point is 02:21:57 like what it is to completely completely divorced from the people who want to play superhero games want to play as the fucking superhero in that superhero fantasy right no like I saw
Starting point is 02:22:13 like there's like there's flash nerds out there right that are like actually like you know what I think Captain Boomerang is fucking cool I love Captain Boomerang and they all shit themselves when his main weapon is a gun instead of a motherfucking Boomerang his name's
Starting point is 02:22:29 Captain Fucky Boomerang he's a flash fillin the fuck just throws a boomerang and flash that's his whole deal it's fucking stupid and also we're at the point anything under a 25%
Starting point is 02:22:45 buff is meaningless and should not exist in a video game anything anything but like like the only time there's only two types of buffs people give a shit about do I need to swing the sword or shoot the gun one less time
Starting point is 02:23:01 and I can feel the difference cool or is it like 25-30% stronger and I can feel the number cool tiny minimal stat increases are of enjoyment to no one
Starting point is 02:23:17 I'm happy that this is much more of a universal sentiment than I thought because it seems like as an outsider that there were entire genres dedicated towards exactly that and I'm just like yeah okay man
Starting point is 02:23:33 but at the same time I'm thinking about how a game that I enjoyed like for example Spider-Man right and in Miles Morales as you're upgrading your little spider tools you're tinkering for a little bit more percentage on this and a little bit more
Starting point is 02:23:49 spread on that and there's some stuff in there that is like the micro details of your items being modified that I'm just like I fucking don't care man so I can tell you what that is because the first game that pops to mind that used this
Starting point is 02:24:05 thing that I was like this is outrageous was Assassin's Creed Origin the one that took place in Egypt you had this massive skill tree absolutely gigantic one third of them gave you a new move let you do assassinations from a ledge
Starting point is 02:24:21 or let you slow down time new moves excellent great love it all the other ones most of the tree was percentile increases to your damage or stealth or whatever and the reason for that is
Starting point is 02:24:37 it's really simple the game they made was massively bloated and they discovered that if your leveling process only included your new moves the ones they actually made for the leveling process you would be getting a new hit of dopamine for your
Starting point is 02:24:53 leveling structure once every six hours which is not fast enough so you need to flood your skill tree with garbage with complete trash almost every game that has a skill tree now
Starting point is 02:25:09 has a terrible skill tree because they need to flood it with trash I recently replayed all the way through Devil May Cry 3 do you know what skills you get for rebellion drive air hike
Starting point is 02:25:25 and stinger for the whole game for the whole fucking game that's what you get for stinger guess what those moves fucking rule I was gonna say we were so you got that right and then you've got we were just
Starting point is 02:25:41 talking about Elden Ring right a game where leveling up is all about the slightest little percentages here and there but you're not leveling up I mean you yes you have your giant weapon arsenal but ultimately when you commit to something the way you're playing
Starting point is 02:25:57 the game is you have the weapon you've got the moves you do with it you've got the defensive role you're gonna do and then you've got some spells but the things you're doing are very limited in scope in terms of combat come by comparison to
Starting point is 02:26:13 all the trinkets all the gadgets all the this is all the that if you had to constantly use a bunch of those cooking consumables in battles and then you were tweaking just how long that would work you know if all of that became like a massive part
Starting point is 02:26:29 of the gameplay loop I would have the exact same problem there too but all of this what's your ability how's your ability to pull up images onto the onto the show sure I'm sending you an image of the worst skill tree ever devised
Starting point is 02:26:45 oh dear god feel free to open up that in a browser what the ever loving fuck okay the absolute worst fucking skill tree ever is the path of
Starting point is 02:27:05 exile skill tree this thing has is a sphere grid with four billion nodes on it um 99% are 5%
Starting point is 02:27:21 increases on the widest possible variety of statistics ever known only the giant bubbles that you can see on this actually influence or change your character
Starting point is 02:27:37 in any way it sucks it's the reason I don't play path of exile anymore I can't handle it it's so awful it's infinite depth it's fucking garbage it's terrible just awful
Starting point is 02:27:53 to those of you at home who are listening to the audio podcast feel free to look up the path of exile skill tree it's legitimately unbelievable this is the end game nightmare this is an absolute nth degree possibility nightmare
Starting point is 02:28:11 okay now here's the thing if every time a skill tree leads to a new move I'm popping the fuck off right because it's like combat possibilities in a way where you feel it
Starting point is 02:28:27 a new move is a thing you feel a new utility a new action Neo has a really good skill tree most of them they're huge buffs they're like
Starting point is 02:28:43 now you can link this move to this move now you have a 30% buff on this so just way more damage it's a really good skill tree that's the thing that's what I get excited for that's what I always want to lean into is just like stuff that you actually can feel in combat
Starting point is 02:28:59 yakuza 0 most like a dragon games almost everything on that skill tree more health, more heat, or a move you can get away with that because there's hundreds of moves it's all predicated on the idea that basic combat is fucking fun
Starting point is 02:29:19 to begin with there's a bunch of this with mass effect with weapons and so on it's cool when you grab a sniper rifle that fires three shots instead of one that's a utility that you feel and you get like yes there's some times it's like oh you put this little add on
Starting point is 02:29:35 and that's going to shoot a little bit harder the headshot damage is going to go up and that stuff's good but overall what you're feeling more is the ability to charge into something and then nova on the way out and create
Starting point is 02:29:51 again a dynamic system of fighting that is like you get a new move, you unlock a new skill partner a new partner skill you can do something different on the battlefield that changes the way you engage or whatever
Starting point is 02:30:11 to bring it back well you do see a lot of games that use this kind of shit most people aren't clamoring for them destiny remains popular and the reason why destiny remains popular is because it feels good to play
Starting point is 02:30:27 the statistics are not what bring people to destiny the statistics are for people that play destiny all the time to have something to do that's different all these other games, Anthem this, they're doing it backwards
Starting point is 02:30:43 the statistics are the reason to play oh I need my level 12 thing for king shark to be good but I don't but king shark is fucking jumping around like crackdown character shooting orbs man like why the fuck
Starting point is 02:30:59 would I want to pay king shark I'll just go play crackdown so then everyone sees that shit on top of a game like this where the whole point is to be a villain or superhero and just embrace the maximum of
Starting point is 02:31:15 whatever character you're doing you're playing as in a superhero villain or superhero game everything should be feeling the unique things that they do specifically as characters almost like if you were designing them in a fighting game
Starting point is 02:31:31 you pick a bunch of moves for it and those moves are not going to just be generic things that anyone else can do you're going to pick the most iconic moves with the most iconic forms and utility for that character to stand out from the rest of the cast it's extra super weird because
Starting point is 02:31:47 of the cast dead shots a character so when they showed that cast everyone went oh dead shots going to play a shooter because he's the shooting man and then king shark will be a brawler and boomerang have boomerang nonsense or whatever and it's like nope it's all shooters
Starting point is 02:32:03 like people were looking at this game thinking it was going to be like I don't know like a fucking Arkham game because it's made by rocksteady and they keep telling you how they made the Arkham games it's another anthem and it's always online so that you can be advertised to buy their cosmetic only battle pass
Starting point is 02:32:23 fucking okay so that's what's going on them ending that playstation state of play thing on that was like the saddest thing in the world especially since right before that they showed off that
Starting point is 02:32:39 hot hot capcom stuff oh yes which I assume we'll be talking about oh yeah absolutely so um we got to finally take a look at the rest of the cast
Starting point is 02:32:55 and they've saved it's kind of like all the comics about about Kami's reveal coming to fruition because they literally saved her for the last announcement Kami showing up the new look
Starting point is 02:33:11 it's quite interesting how when you see the redesign of a character like that that's really classic concept art so everyone saw that leak and knew what was coming but until you see it in motion it's not sold to people right once you see
Starting point is 02:33:27 her in motion and you see more specifically the the the taunt that becomes the new jack o pose the fucking stretch right and then and then now everyone making gay these games is going to take note okay we got to do that we got to put in
Starting point is 02:33:43 a jack o pose equivalent to go and modify this character on reveal um have the have the hot character have a pose where they show off their fat ass there you go uh fantastic redesign of Kami obviously super dope um
Starting point is 02:33:59 uh fuck yoga fire here comes the yoga pants uh you got the jacket you got the the hair cut but the brilliant design element is that even though Kami's got the haircut the jacket has the belt on it
Starting point is 02:34:15 the loops that's hang down emulating her old hairstyle so you still get the secondary animation cues off of her really good good work on that um showing off the the stage looks great and then um they
Starting point is 02:34:31 we took a look at some of the uh so we see in her level three it's actually this kind of like it's different from the thing that leaked it's a shot of this kind of like execution moment of her standing behind you and doing like the roundhouse kick which means that amazing
Starting point is 02:34:47 like super take your head off one that we saw from the leak is gonna be the the critical art and the mother fuckers not only did they redo the song from street fighter the animated movie they actually got her full-on assassination twist president kill move
Starting point is 02:35:03 um in there as well and it's like fuck yes that's such a great that's such a great iconic thing that was never something she did in the games at all yeah never ever and we everyone remembers that because it's the opening of that fucking movie and it's like damn that's a
Starting point is 02:35:19 that's a hand to hand kill twist drop pull um looks fantastic lily hawk uh yeah I'm down okay I'm down
Starting point is 02:35:35 you know I'm curious about the reach on those weapons because as a weapon character uh you're probably gonna get some ridiculous uh poke length with that the the the little wings um I thought it was really brave that Namco let um street fighter use one of their characters
Starting point is 02:35:51 and just put Talim just directly into the game they put they put Talim and changed her changed her up a little bit sure she's even got the wind stuff she stands around saying when she does see she didn't say wind but she did you she thought it
Starting point is 02:36:07 um yeah she's doing she's doing the teahawk stuff she's doing the condor dives and you know condor spires so that's all fun but I would say what's what seems to be uh cool and I'm hoping that you see her level three
Starting point is 02:36:23 where she does um she goes and sets up the the the typhoon raging typhoon from teahawk and then she grabs you spins you around trot and then goes to do the big finish but then fails botches it botches it hard you drop and then she lands
Starting point is 02:36:39 on top of you instead of him doing the usual slam into the into the sit right so is the critical art version gonna be the one where she succeeds she does it correctly I hope so that'd be a lot of fun you know it's like it's a botch until you do the the right final version of it
Starting point is 02:36:55 um and then there he is they put my dog in the video game that's crazy he's back he too is wearing pants so anyone crazy anyone who's like why did they give cammy pants yeah well gief got pants too
Starting point is 02:37:11 um so I am I am so so so thrilled with new gief in terms of his look because gief no longer looks like a a mr
Starting point is 02:37:27 universe contestant that was vacuum sealed into his own body he looks like a strong man by mate so everybody else has way more defined musculature in this one except for gief gief has less fat yes
Starting point is 02:37:43 he's less muscular yes which makes him look way stronger he's less defined he's he's just he's in that like again thick man body he's got the the the cut has come down he's not as oiled up but he looks like as
Starting point is 02:37:59 you said a strong man you know he looks like those dudes like magnificent yep those Swedish dudes and Russian guys that go throw the tires over lifting the blurney stone or whatever or whatever lifting the whatever stones
Starting point is 02:38:15 dragging up doing a truck pole looks like one of those dudes absolutely um and uh yeah you see even see he's got the the full on uh like lucha style mask wrestler costume and then the mask comes off um you know it's funny because
Starting point is 02:38:31 I made a way before Zangief was announced I was like I want I will pay money dollars to somebody who horribly badly mods a dog head onto the Zangief character model to
Starting point is 02:38:47 look like my dog and it'll be horrible and I will do it and then I look at him like oh he's gonna have a costume with the mask and really all you need is a is a slight recolor and and and is done it's done my dog is right there sure um move wise no green hand
Starting point is 02:39:03 move wise he's got uh just about everything else we've seen no green hand no green hand uh so I have a I have a uh so so it makes sense and now I saw people talking about it the new drive system and the
Starting point is 02:39:19 dashboard and all that green hand seems kind of redundant with the ability for everyone to get in now um but he has that awful kick counter from five he does the kick counter that's so awful
Starting point is 02:39:35 the street fighter website is calling it a new move it's not a new move uh yeah yeah um it has to be better right I know no is there's stuff that came in worse
Starting point is 02:39:51 like Luke suppressor right he had no longer text throws the back heavy punch so this thing that he does here I don't know that it's gonna be better man it's still it's just a weird kick counter I don't know um sure enough you you're right he does get the suction move but it's part of his level
Starting point is 02:40:07 two super yes so he can still do the cyclone um it now becomes the level two utility thing and it has different enders which the one we saw is a picture perfect fucking jackhammer um I love that they've
Starting point is 02:40:23 also played up the show the show wrestling stuff you know like the actual professional wrestling moves he does like a kick to set you up before going into like the the SPD does a kick and then a pose he does a people's elbow you know he's being
Starting point is 02:40:39 a professional wrestler um you know I you know I think it's a smart idea that Zangief the hero of the USSR would be dialed up on the wrestling and dialed down on the hyper
Starting point is 02:40:55 nationalism perhaps perhaps one way or another um you've got a pretty solid kit even without that green hand and remember you've still got a drive impact to blow through whatever's coming at you
Starting point is 02:41:11 uh you've still got the borscht dynamite which is the air spinning piledriver um which other stuff that we haven't seen he's gonna be fine he's got target combos yeah chest slap
Starting point is 02:41:27 one two three and he's got the little kicks as target combos um I bet I bet you anything those target combos leave the the person hit by them at like minus two
Starting point is 02:41:43 like just enough to get like inescapably spd if you try and do something you can combo into the spd as well you can head but you see he's got the headbut and you can you can go straight into it the question of course is if stun is no longer
Starting point is 02:41:59 tied to a number but is instead tied to you getting wall splattered while you're burnt out what the fuck does the headbut do I just realized something um I've never been a big frame data guy
Starting point is 02:42:15 but with the way burnout works in street fighter 6 and how unsafe things become safe I'm looking at a situation where geef hitting you and you blocking it in burnout could give situations where he can
Starting point is 02:42:31 recover before you and freely tick you in situations he otherwise would not be able to you're gonna have to pay attention to your numbers a bit more if you want to be effective with them because setting up really tricky
Starting point is 02:42:47 you have to take take your spd and put it in the most inescapable places right or least predictable places um if you play like a fucking beast level patemkin or geef you're gonna do snake eyes type shit and just barely ever do it just a threat of the throw will
Starting point is 02:43:03 keep people paranoid I could throw you bro right but regardless you're gonna also have to factor in now that yeah in burnout they're gonna be exactly four frame slower on the recovery of everything and if you do a drive rush you're gonna get an extra four as well so all this to say
Starting point is 02:43:19 without getting into the fucking the weeds on it um you're gonna have a whole lot of ways to trick people into getting thrown now that weren't there before and you're you can create a number of um let's say like just
Starting point is 02:43:35 well essentially like frame traps right where everyone fearing getting thrown is just gonna do something out of panic and then you just actually either press a button or jump and do the air version instead don't jump because now it's
Starting point is 02:43:51 a 50-50 in some situations I just you know we saw Zangief's level two which is the the jack hammer and the the suck and we saw the level three which is the kick into the spd like maybe his level one is just green hand
Starting point is 02:44:07 um I think I think the Sony blog um actually told us let me let me go check that again because every time they do these character announcements um if you go to the official Shrevefighter website you get
Starting point is 02:44:23 more info on the character but if you go to the Sony PlayStation blog you get more more info on the moves um so let me see because I just
Starting point is 02:44:39 I I will also look yeah I was just reading it a little bit earlier so yeah here we go on Gief they say he can do the Cyclone Lariat uh as his level two his level three is
Starting point is 02:44:55 Bolshoi storm buster uh they don't say what his level one is level one yeah um because it's green hand or uh because you know you saw the little kicks there right like that's definitely like the Shrevefighter EX style um oh just like ten
Starting point is 02:45:11 of those kicks in a row right the big whoo whoo whoo whoo yeah but my my hope would if anything would just be like bring back the pocket fighter like where he does the full on dance you know the get real low and do the kick kick kick left right left right
Starting point is 02:45:27 that all the the Cossack dance the Cossack dance is great man bring that back as a fucking super that'd be amazing have fun with it juggle you um yeah street fighter looks good unfortunately is very far away are we going to get
Starting point is 02:45:43 another pay to uh I suspect that if you do there you're not going to get any extra characters in it I suspect if they if they if they do put a third one out there it'll be the exact same roster so you know
Starting point is 02:45:59 but um yeah this is now the final launch list so what that means is uh season one is going to be uh Ed Akuma um Rashid and um uh what was her name
Starting point is 02:46:15 uh Girlfong Aki Aki so interesting because like I would not have imagined like Aki weird freak pick but sure there's a there's a thing to it and I don't know that he would have been
Starting point is 02:46:31 popular enough to to be a seller but like putting Akuma as DLC is like yeah that's the textbook move right take a popular character everyone wants and throw them in season one um and I would say that Rashid is also pretty popular so
Starting point is 02:46:47 uh that Rashid's cool those are that's a list that like most people would be willing to pay for probably not Ed but uh I would because Ed's fucking cool and then that's gonna be that's gonna round it out you know um so yeah Street Fighter 6 with
Starting point is 02:47:03 that they also confirmed at the same time um and this goes along more so into into Evo news but uh they gave the Evo lineup and Street Fighter 6 is gonna be the only game played on PlayStation 5 at Evo
Starting point is 02:47:19 everything else is gonna be on PC um Sony bought half of Evo and everyone was like does this mean they're gonna just have to have everything running on PS versions and they said no we're gonna just you know we're
Starting point is 02:47:35 involved but it seems like they're letting everything else just rock on whatever the preferred um you know community version is but in this case 6 is gonna be the platform the lead game it's gonna be the big one they're emphasized they're pushing it and it's gonna be like yeah
Starting point is 02:47:51 that'll be the one game that is only on PlayStation interesting um yeah I I'm gonna be curious we'll have to wait for some of the tests and stuff but I know that they're of course as usual is always a little bit of console delay in some cases
Starting point is 02:48:07 um if you have a good TV you mitigate a lot of that but um I'm not surprised because it's like again Sony bought the fucking thing if the community naturally migrates away from using playstations like I'm sure they're not
Starting point is 02:48:23 happy about that even if they're willing to let it slide you know um and then right in that you also have the announcement of the games that are gonna be there which are all you know stuff you'd expect Street Fighter 6
Starting point is 02:48:39 Guilty Gear Strive Dragon Ball Fighters Tekken 7 KOF MK11 and Marvel 3 yeah Marvel 3 which uh really cool that that's getting in there and also
Starting point is 02:48:55 you know not super surprising considering we saw in the past they had interest to bring back Marvel 3 and to have an exhibition anyways but things got cancelled right so um they pretty much stated the intent to get Marvel 3 some more spotlight
Starting point is 02:49:11 and uh yeah it's gonna be on the main stage again that's a lot of fun um it definitely means you know you're not gonna get your new Grand Blue or your DNF dual up there and it is what it is um but it's
Starting point is 02:49:27 gonna be interesting having Marvel and Dragon Ball both on the main stage as like their kind of contemporaries you know uh you can see the direct flavor change between the two one has Goku um this is gonna be
Starting point is 02:49:43 uh this is one of those things where we're now at a place where like the this is gonna be like the strongest off non-main games are all gonna be like pretty high entrance and popular because there's giant community
Starting point is 02:49:59 still playing them it's yeah like the selection is gonna be all pretty hype stuff at the same time like personally you know multi-blood I'm like eh I think that kind of uh it made its mark and people have said what they wanted about that
Starting point is 02:50:15 the people have kind of turned on that because of the shield system and stuff but um DNF off camera and uh Grand Blue and you know Uniclear and all that jazz
Starting point is 02:50:31 there's gonna be some pretty pretty stacked off camera stuff running and not to mention like to the bathrooms with all of you like Exord got its rollback so that's you know that's coming back to a degree um you got
Starting point is 02:50:47 fucking uh Sam's show getting its rollback although that's not in a great state yet hopefully they land they get there um but yay marvel hype excuse me um all right what else is going on there was a uh big old
Starting point is 02:51:07 uh fucking ff 16 info dump everything today they showed off uh some big old footage with uh Clive slash ifrit versus Garuda benedicta and uh alongside
Starting point is 02:51:23 that was an interview with Yoshi P and uh boy were there some choice uh quotes to pull from this so before we before we get into the quotes I want to talk about the what the gameplay footage looks like uh it looks like fucking devil may
Starting point is 02:51:39 cry is what it fucking looks like yeah I I'm the thing is I when they kind of went okay so you're only controlling the mate one character and everyone else in the party is going to be just ai controlled I like it I kind of wince initially because I think back to like
Starting point is 02:51:55 original p3 you know I think back to just like dammit I want to control the party but if you go all the way in on just a character action final fantasy game an action game then it's like okay no no this is this
Starting point is 02:52:11 this makes sense this is fine the genre has shifted that this is actually going to make sense um yeah that footage uh it shows off a lot of that um and then of course it shows left left trigger is switched between your different summons which are here your skill sets or your styles
Starting point is 02:52:29 uh I saw snatch I saw trick I like it's it is it is wildly inspired by devil may cry I had um I had a thought as I was watching this and it's more about just like the evolution of
Starting point is 02:52:45 the genre as time has gone on um final fantasy has clearly been willing to like um not commit its identity to being a turn based RPG um it's more so committed to like it's
Starting point is 02:53:01 narrative and and uh when you look at like the first games you think back to like okay this came from a time when uh well RPG battles uh were turn based out of tradition out of utility out of necessity and limitations at the time
Starting point is 02:53:17 and it just made sense a lot of times it was it was in reference to like the way combat rounds would proceed and dungeons drag of course right you know you established that like you took your turn and then the enemy took theirs and that's how you table top um as time goes on they were willing to go like well video
Starting point is 02:53:33 games have gotten a bit more sophisticated let's add active time battle let's mix it up let's do some stuff that's a bit more um actually specific and specific to what video games can do right um now we're at a point where
Starting point is 02:53:49 each of these genres we kind of look at them and they have their place and their and like there's a thing to like well I want a turn based game because I've been the mood for that it's a different level of like problem solving as opposed to like the stress of a timer um and then you watch Final Fantasy
Starting point is 02:54:05 go forward and become like now we're going full action game it's stopped being it's danced with it it's done a little bit of action but still active a little bit you saw the the ff7 obviously like hybrid but then you know ever since like uh what I guess um uh 12 I guess
Starting point is 02:54:21 right like going full action um it's it's kind of interesting because when I see it and this phase now I can imagine another couple of years where um it stays in this place and it goes wherever
Starting point is 02:54:37 video game technology can go but does this mean that like if the goal is just the narrative is the focus and the gameplay genre can shift to whatever video games can do if if we get to a point where
Starting point is 02:54:53 there's something else that becomes more um real realistic or more cinematic I'll say that right not just QTE battles but like a way to play a video game that like uh um emulates the feeling of uh combat
Starting point is 02:55:09 in a in a more like movie like way could you see things shifting again towards that if that starts to become the norm in video games no uh so 10 was the last true turn based final fantasy game right uh 11 and 14 are mmo's
Starting point is 02:55:25 and they have mmo combat they have mmo combat of their own era right ff11 has old style mmo combat very long very slow very chill 14 has uh hot you know cool down hot bar combat tab targeting stuff
Starting point is 02:55:41 12 is a fucking spreadsheet simulator 12 is is like I like 12 is not turn based 12 is uh fucking punch in your robots and have them auto battle for you it's it's it's a programming game uh
Starting point is 02:55:57 13 was was like that 13's was like the the most actiony they could have ever made their own classic turn based system and then 13 3 we're pushing more and more action and then now we have ff7
Starting point is 02:56:13 remake sorry then you have 15 which is a bad action game with bad controls then you have 7 remake which is a good turn based action game with decent controls yes and now now that we've all the way gone to 15 sorry 16
Starting point is 02:56:29 where they're like you know if we're gonna do these action type things we should probably have uh somebody who makes action games help us like this so we're there this feels like the natural end point like it feels like they will be
Starting point is 02:56:45 making like more actiony style of these games because it fits like the flow of the narrative the best and it's yeah if they it's cool to watch and it definitely feels as if like when you think about how they want
Starting point is 02:57:01 an fmv to look uh uh in it like if it's like we're if we're filming a fight showing you how that looks we want you to be able to play out something that feels closer to that right and yeah this is not me I'm not saying hypothetically what I would want this that's not what I'm getting at it's more just the idea
Starting point is 02:57:17 that like um ff is willing to change its genre based on what video games can do so if that continues to increase in the future you know like do we see these games kind of like sitting in this place and then
Starting point is 02:57:33 like somewhere else where or like yeah or not you know that's that's all I'm really I guess but I mean that'd be fucking sick because this shit looks awesome but you made a good point going all the way back to like fuck when did ATB start was that like 4 or like
Starting point is 02:57:49 I don't know when I don't know when ATB started like they that that game series has like almost never going back to like the 90s been a pure turn based RPG like menu combat they've always wanted it to feel action-y
Starting point is 02:58:05 and this just feels like it took 20 years to actually get there if you'll excuse me I have to help get that dog's piss out so I will be right back to continue this conversation excuse me brb oh there we go alright cool we're back
Starting point is 02:58:21 so um no and that little nice um that little over that little break I had it I guess a second to kind of like collect my thoughts I'm like okay what am I trying to say here and I think I'm like
Starting point is 02:58:37 it was a gamble that FF as a franchise kept experimenting and tweaking and changing the formula around with combat and stuff but I think it's really cool that like they're only really married to the narrative idea and not anything
Starting point is 02:58:53 else and at this point it kind of final fantasies just become like something else but like obviously as someone who likes action games I'm very happy that it's going in this direction I think that's rad as shit um I
Starting point is 02:59:09 never liked ATB as much because like if I want turn based I kind of want to be able to stop and think or if I want action I'm going to go all in so uh that was kind of how I felt about that phase of it but like the fact that they're just kind of like yeah let's just do what works you know what's cool
Starting point is 02:59:25 what feels like uh the closest to the type of story we want to tell over time is awesome to just not be super duper married to what it is and um it's it is the only true anthology series in video games with what that word means right like the fact
Starting point is 02:59:41 that Yakuza switches over to an RPG as a bit but then commits to it that's great weird yeah weird but great right it's the opposite of this it is it is right but at the same time um I think about how I'm like well
Starting point is 02:59:57 if I ever went to check out Dragon Quest I know exactly what I'm getting not anymore not any less it's going to be this plus whatever character narrative and you know perhaps subsystems there are but like um yeah I
Starting point is 03:00:13 like that this is ironically enough like a dragon is also like that you know exactly what a like a dragon game is like right but like I like that this is how things have ended up with ff that's that's that's pretty cool um at the same
Starting point is 03:00:29 time I guess I also think of like well the more action oriented or a game is the probably the less like let's say like punch mom for example is going to like be able to deal with it um you know ff7 are which I
Starting point is 03:00:45 loved the the the hybrid system there um you know she kind of had to have it on the the easier setting where it more or less just asks you for your your some your your um uh occasional action input but like the combat stuff is sort of minimized
Starting point is 03:01:01 uh there are people I know as well that are like I wanted our like that I want rpgs to always not be about timing um and I get that I get that you know but it is something where I'm just like I fucking love that this is what Final Fantasy is becoming
Starting point is 03:01:17 that's rad as shit man like I biased as fuck it's super cool somebody who watched the gameplay there was something else that I was like oh wow it's really an action game this doesn't look like much much it doesn't look like it plays much like
Starting point is 03:01:33 Final Fantasy at all and then they they there's a gameplay sequence in the demo in which they have a throw down with Geruda and I'm like okay cool ah cool cutscene and then the main character
Starting point is 03:01:49 doesn't fight Geruda the main character fights fucking Suparna and Charada and the first thing they fucking do is start throwing criss crossing aoe patterns on the fucking floor and I'm like oh
Starting point is 03:02:05 man this is it's leaking in it's leaking in the Final Fantasy 14 shit is gonna be all over this shit the seal has been cracked um
Starting point is 03:02:21 well if I can't wait until like people are having to dodge like if it's bacon aoe but if you if a big pattern if a big fucking MMO pattern drops on the ground and starts like doing its shapes and then the games like
Starting point is 03:02:37 okay but press R1 to like deek to the side and fucking animes like skate away from it that's fine I'm down with that right and then the boss is also like just flying at you at the same
Starting point is 03:02:53 time as you're doing those dodges and you're doing the close combat fuck yeah super down for that anything that Titan will have an un-telegraphed move that knocks you off a platform but you anything
Starting point is 03:03:09 I mean and they will also have an aoe that grows from the exterior of the goddamn stage over and over I mean I I bet Rama's gonna throw some lightning at the ground and no I bet you you will have to absorb
Starting point is 03:03:25 lightning balls sure deep off to hit Rama sure uh yeah no that shit was rad um I'm just like yeah I don't know I'm just like I'm like how many times can you watch as like a franchise slowly becomes
Starting point is 03:03:41 the thing you love you know what I mean like it's like sorry yeah let's go you know but but I also um um like well let's see how it goes a couple from now
Starting point is 03:03:57 and let's see what else they do let's see what else they how it evolves you know um well anyways the the I was gonna get to the interview something else though oh no no the last thing is like the the devil trigger bar
Starting point is 03:04:13 seen on the health bar is like literally the limit break bar yes yes it's the same sure like not font but it's the same typography it's the same exact color like it's I mean you're looking at that I'm looking at the part
Starting point is 03:04:29 where the HP stops being numbers and becomes two fucking bars on the screen and I'm just like yeah let's go let's fucking go man I love a life bar I love a life bar it doesn't
Starting point is 03:04:45 tell you exactly the same information as accurately as numbers can but I fucking love it regardless hey let me ask you a question I have a really so which life bar do you prefer the life bar that extends and then goes no and needs second line yes
Starting point is 03:05:01 like the devil cry yes or or and this is only for enemies the life bar that starts out as a different color than the regular life bar and then you beat it to the bottom and it's still a different other color the the classic I mean
Starting point is 03:05:17 obviously there's the Sephiroth bit but like that mean my first thought of that is actually a final fight right you swing at at boss and he turns like silver on his life bar you're like what what
Starting point is 03:05:33 like what are we gonna go from silver into white man um yeah no I I like I like when you know just extra shapes and additions and bullshit starts getting added on to it
Starting point is 03:05:49 in a way that just like it's like what how far is this going we could just stack them both on top of each other fuck yeah also give me a game where I can do a Sephiroth and I can make my stats go off screen let it break you should probably play
Starting point is 03:06:05 stranger of paradise oh okay uh anyways so yeah Yoshida sat down and he said a couple things he's had some he said a lot of hot takes way out of context
Starting point is 03:06:21 hot takes well let's start with this one uh the reason why ifrit is the main icon is because we felt sorry for him usually ifrit is the first summon you get and and he ends up getting either A replaced by
Starting point is 03:06:37 way better summons as you go on in the game or B you get to dunk on him first as like the initial trainer introduction to the feature so he just gets completely forgotten about so this time around they're giving him the spotlight
Starting point is 03:06:55 sure a hundred percent sure if it's if it's like the number so he ends up being like one of the most recognizable summons obviously because you always get to him first you always get to him first he's always the first one on the roster either fighting or getting part of your party
Starting point is 03:07:11 yeah like ff7 the first one you get is is ifrit and you're like wow summon and then right into the trash as soon as Shiva comes along fucking eight right you get ifrit and Shiva and Shiva and then I think you get like fucking whatever snake
Starting point is 03:07:27 right out like but it's like leviathan right after yeah and it's just like fair let let him let him get his shine fair um the uh
Starting point is 03:07:43 when asked about yeah so ff16 will not be delayed unless a meteor falls on japan I appreciate the use of the thematically appropriate natural disaster um
Starting point is 03:07:59 and then there was an interesting one here in japan they don't use the term jrpg it's a western term and it's mainly considered something that is kind of a touchy subject with some devs because
Starting point is 03:08:15 it had some negative connotations about 15 years ago or so um that's an interesting one because like there definitely is like I remember like we'd call them jrpgs going back to like SNES and stuff you know
Starting point is 03:08:31 um but there there was a I guess a middle point when you know we were rising up through the xbox 360 let's call it the fill fish era where uh
Starting point is 03:08:47 go ahead video game coverage got like wildly xenophobic like like weirdly weirdly xenophobic where like Japanese games just terrible man oh god why games have to do
Starting point is 03:09:03 boss fights are over when are we gonna be done with boss fights they're just terrible I think the age of boss fights has come to an end it's time we moved on from boss fights we still see there's a tweet people are making fun of right now
Starting point is 03:09:19 on my timeline of like uh interface designers from western games like just shitting their pants angry at elden ring for being so popular and just nitpicking the most insane fucking like complaints about
Starting point is 03:09:35 its interface because like is this a oh god I gotta find this fucking awful awful tweet so god damn stupid uh I saw Chris and Jean making fun of it earlier because it's so stupid
Starting point is 03:09:51 here it is not being able to equip armor from the inventory and having to go to a separate equipment game is its own level of hell all from software games and in my opinion almost all games of Japanese origin have a UI problem could
Starting point is 03:10:07 it be a difference in usability mental model across regions yeah you're right using the equipment screen is Japanese only and old fashioned and stupid usability mental models across reasons is that a fancy way of saying do the Japanese
Starting point is 03:10:27 think different is that fucking uh the great ace attorney you nippany sure are a different breed oh that's crazy your UI systems
Starting point is 03:10:45 they elude me a lot of this was like in reference to like that ubi soft made elden ring mock up yeah I do remember that screenshot I do I do yeah it makes perfect sense that they don't call their own games jrpg
Starting point is 03:11:01 some morons are taking this quote as like a abandonment of the genre that company means like no people were fucking weird yeah no about rpgs and jrpg's back in the aughts and early tens
Starting point is 03:11:17 now well before that the distinguishing factors I remember were like no it's because when you say western rpg you think of like the again the things that are a bit more etc and like uh might even be first person might even involve
Starting point is 03:11:33 like text prompts and things like that if you go back old enough um the usual breakdown was how open ended is it it doesn't have a really centralized narrative it's probably from japan does it have a more open ended go anywhere narrative it's usually from like
Starting point is 03:11:49 california or or alberta um and maybe I just you know just kind of made my own brains a little things too as well but I was like yeah rpg's especially back then you'd have a party you know you'd have a usually again it would be a third
Starting point is 03:12:05 person in most cases um yeah and so on but like yeah they're dead there was that weird in between phase I think that just created a sour taste there uh it also but woolly you have to remember a lot of role playing games from japan
Starting point is 03:12:21 look anime and in the parlance of the day anime is fucking gay right do you remember that right right oh shit look at daunte oh my god
Starting point is 03:12:37 mm-hmm so that was also it was interesting too because that bled right into a time when um japan as a game like like as a as a where japanese video games were also
Starting point is 03:12:53 like economically suffering they weren't outputting as many huge hits as they used to as well right it was that period in which Square Enix was undergoing some major identity crisis moments trying to end different
Starting point is 03:13:09 we were watching each major studio reach out to different western smaller companies and seeing if they were going to take a crack at a number of franchises right Capcom did it, Konami did it Square definitely had did it and like we kind of were looking
Starting point is 03:13:25 at um when platinum were coming out and going we are like the pride that needs to carry you know japanese development forward and we need to kind of save the situation so that was kind of the tail end of it you know um
Starting point is 03:13:41 the attitude that was the prevalent at the time was like it was awful not just like you know there's the fill fish thing where a japanese developer went to gdc and asked a genuine question to which like his nationality and industry were insulted in front
Starting point is 03:13:57 of a big crowd of people like awful but also like this attitude of like japanese games was directly responsible for like keiji in a fune ruining like five years of capcom games not good
Starting point is 03:14:13 um strider was awesome oh they got to be like western strider was awesome some of them there was strider was good wasn't strider made by a western team trying to make it like a japanese video game pretty much but they were hired
Starting point is 03:14:29 as like let's give a western team this property that we own i know what it's doing yes um and you know obviously uh like uh rearmed is pretty sick too so there's there's good stuff that came out of there make no mistake i also
Starting point is 03:14:45 feel that like um there were stuff there was potential stuff as well that sounded really interesting like all in all the movement that got involved with like you know talking to some western studios about take their take on some of these franchises led to some
Starting point is 03:15:01 stuff that was pretty cool but totally and some stuff that could have been really cool yeah so you know no blanket statements but uh yeah the sentiment you know it makes sense that like now when they're like okay some of this still ha existed whatnot that that yoshi
Starting point is 03:15:17 would be like hey that term kind of is a bit of a sore spot with some people because it just reminds them of that and people that have been around from like the fourth generation might not be in games anymore but the people who are around because they're 90 yeah but the people who are
Starting point is 03:15:33 like getting their teeth cut on 360 era certainly would be like seniors at this point you know yeah um so that's an interesting thing to learn there um it's definitely it's definitely fascinating because
Starting point is 03:15:49 like we all that that whole discourse and all that feeling was like out here but you never got the impression that it ever radiated out back to Japan because you did I never heard it I never heard it talked about yeah ever um
Starting point is 03:16:05 my I mean I in an ideally right like you would have jrpg would just be a qualifier in the exact same way as wrpg you know or the funniest thing is is that wrpg was attempted
Starting point is 03:16:21 as a as a genre descriptor and let me tell you as somebody who has played most of the games that technically fall underneath that description it is even worse of a qualifying descriptor than jrpg it is it is every rpg
Starting point is 03:16:37 that's not from Japan in the style of any Japanese rpg that has come out it usually just meant elder scrolls that that's what it was usually just used as like well that's not a jrpg this is a western rpg
Starting point is 03:16:53 like the oblivion or the skyrim because they're good and it's like at that point a fucking western rpg usually actually meant the game came out insanely buggy both balder skate games fallout torment
Starting point is 03:17:09 pillars every elder scrolls game definitely the witcher just came out like the buggiest fucking thing in the world so immediately I was going to say like then my brain goes right to further subdivisions like crpg
Starting point is 03:17:25 where that is a horrible nomenclature for terrible nomenclature but it's really specific yes it's old d&d style full-on pen and paper systems
Starting point is 03:17:41 right it is an isometric game that has an underlying pen and paper system that you control with a mouse and you usually pause but how the fuck is the word computer rpg supposed to convey that shit play with a mouse
Starting point is 03:17:57 therefore it's on the computer so that's the act that's the genesis of that term so you know that that sucks but here we are anyway and unlike I'm sure uro rpg is you know can be a thing and
Starting point is 03:18:13 no na no Europe gets its own genre by itself of just uro jank okay but outside of the little circle of fucking us and the weirdos that listen to us like what would
Starting point is 03:18:31 uro jank is blanket huh yeah anybody that listens to a gaming podcast knows what uro jank is and I want to point out that uro jank on the east side just gets that little it gets
Starting point is 03:18:47 kev in there it gets that little piece of Ukraine in for the European need but now the rpg and the first person shooter and the action game in the third person that come from Europe are all the same genre that's right they really are I hey man
Starting point is 03:19:03 it's it's so we get to this discussion once a year and that discussion is is that genres in most media are terrible but genres in video games are actually the worst they are totally useless
Starting point is 03:19:19 almost every other genre in every other medium describes tone or theme only and in video games they also have to describe perspective and generalized mechanics it's awful
Starting point is 03:19:35 and some places country of origin shut up and watch me die on a hill called button bashers yeah I thought you were gonna say shut up and watch me die on the hill that is raiding this year's best action adventure
Starting point is 03:19:51 action slash adventure oh my god yeah no the actual the actual worst right what are you doing where is the camera are their numbers where is it from
Starting point is 03:20:15 yeah pretty much that is it scary scary no like no serious do the rooms change every time you walk into them
Starting point is 03:20:31 yeah is it isn't scary it's the stupidest it's the dumbest total genre version it's scary what a worthless medium
Starting point is 03:20:47 tell me why resident evil 5 is survival horror and fucking dead space is survival horror but gears of war is a cover shooter action game third person shooter how is gears of war isn't scary enough
Starting point is 03:21:09 how is the stupidest part how is your reward distribution system right yeah how many other players can play with at the time a few
Starting point is 03:21:29 a lot a whole lot and then and how many players did you start with and do you end with the same number yeah oh a massively multiplayer online game is a game in which you can play
Starting point is 03:21:47 with a hundred or more people at once oh you mean like a battle royale no shut up stop stop it is there an arena yeah I hate it anyway so we got that
Starting point is 03:22:11 which was quite interesting then hey man if you like fishing or blitzball fuck off because this is a story about countries at war and there's no time to play sports or past the time when
Starting point is 03:22:27 people are dying at war hard cut to shepherd dancing just kind of going huh what there's more to that quote that I believe actually explains more hold on blitzball
Starting point is 03:22:43 oh yeah I can pull it out I was trying to find it earlier uh cuz like that showed up as a threat on the subreddit but I actually got deleted because it's it lacks context fuck triple triad
Starting point is 03:22:59 but I'm having trouble actually finding there's a yeah there's a there he mentions that there is an area within the game that you can basically chill out so it's not doom and gloom at all times because that would be horrible and
Starting point is 03:23:15 oppressive but I can't find it I'm having trouble finding the article itself because he did interviews with like 35 different fucking places this morning I had it open earlier
Starting point is 03:23:31 I found it that was easy type in blitzball on the twitter yeah we have some very dark themes that the story revolves around we have countries at war we can't really have some blitzball matches going on when people are killing each other and when you have this hero who's talking about and driven by revenge
Starting point is 03:23:47 I'm gonna go out and fish in that sense these aren't the types uh are those uh there aren't those types of light things that are gonna detract from the story that we're trying to tell yeah so the follow up to that is however if you remember from the presentation we talked about sid and sid has this organization
Starting point is 03:24:03 their headquarters this is a place called the hideaway once clive meets up with sid and is able to join then you have a kind of hub for where all the side content that's separate from the main story starts so we have these things like quest where you can learn about people in hideaway or quest where you can learn about the people quest where you can help upgrade clive earning more inventory blah blah blah
Starting point is 03:24:19 there are other types of activities such as the hunt board where you'll see the billets uh it'll talk about notorious monsters roaming the land and your do your task is trying to find this defeat this monster for fame so it's like there is side stuff and there is cool down it just isn't going to be like
Starting point is 03:24:35 of kind of like total levity like blitzpalling while sin is wrecking towns yeah doors over no i i'm more than happy to play triple triad in the trenches as the dirt lands on the cards
Starting point is 03:24:51 while you eat a ration have a smoke and try to fucking make some some light of the situation blitzball and triple triad and the gold saucer are likes and are in tetra master are like so violently
Starting point is 03:25:07 out of their own context like okay like blitzball and triple triad yes the golden saucer is the most egregious of all because you can't just fucking waste time wherever you are you have to physically leave the the important
Starting point is 03:25:23 places and go to it you have to you have to say fuck off we got to help in the airship and fly for an hour to get to the gold saucer because i need to play snowboarding dude and dying people around the world are
Starting point is 03:25:39 happening while the employees of the golden saucer continue to wear their outfits and be like welcome on come on in welcome back what do you want today's and like you have to actively it's the it's the difference between like
Starting point is 03:25:55 like you're in a fucking war zone and there's bodies around you and there's a fire that needs putting out but you pull out your steam deck or or you book a ticket jump on a plane and fly to Vegas like it's it's a whole
Starting point is 03:26:11 of other level of crazy but yes I agree they also talked about how it's a semi open structure like you'll have zones to explore but it is definitely not an open world because they feel like the open world
Starting point is 03:26:27 concept like shackles a lot of stuff behind a lot of bloat which I totally agree with truth spitting truth 30 or 60 FPS 35 to 37 hours or so
Starting point is 03:26:43 11 plus hours of story that's a lot that's a lot it's a chunky game that's chunk boy I mean it's it's quite honest with them to just
Starting point is 03:26:59 straight up tell you a third of this game is going to be FMV unless you do all the side content and then it's one eighth and those those estimations were based on you not dying anywhere significantly or dying at all for that matter
Starting point is 03:27:15 there's gonna be a demo two weeks before launch and and yeah the also the other important thing is yes ff16 is on a six month limited time exclusive with ps5
Starting point is 03:27:35 but that does not believe it but that does not mean that the pc version will be released in half a year I will make it clear the pc version will not come out in half a year so the time limit doesn't mean it's gonna be the they're waiting to drop
Starting point is 03:27:51 it mark your calendar right and then of course there was the he kind of dropped this in the middle of talking about that stuff but he says essentially that he was making it with the thought of it being the best game in the world
Starting point is 03:28:07 all that's nice so please play it but don't expect the pc version to not take time seeing as they're trying to make quote-unquote the best game in the world yeah
Starting point is 03:28:25 I think that game will probably be pretty okay yeah I am looking forward to this I'm also looking forward to seeing what happens with ff7r2
Starting point is 03:28:43 but the whole bold new direction so to speak is incredibly exciting that's super dope I think this is also part of YoshiP's master plan to get people to play 14
Starting point is 03:28:59 it shares most of the same staff but also like the control layout it's really similar like you're holding down the trigger to tap your buttons to fire off your cooldowns I mean like
Starting point is 03:29:15 I guess we'll have to see if like we get little nods and references here and there or if we get like main menu screens that are like click here now to get your free trial for 30 days
Starting point is 03:29:31 I would think the funniest thing in the world would be like did you enjoy like credits and it goes fang like it always does like did you have a good time have you heard about final fantasy 11 here you go here's a link
Starting point is 03:29:47 to a website you can learn about final fantasy 11 the icons adventures continue in this logo pops up van a deal yeah
Starting point is 03:30:03 sure man but but you know that ain't the only thing going on at square um meanwhile you've got the folks that made Forsaken
Starting point is 03:30:19 luminous productions their studio is merging with screenix on May 1st and what the announcement seems to be essentially that the failure of first spoken has more or less led to a dissolving of the team
Starting point is 03:30:35 instead of everyone getting fired they're just getting merged and broken up into screenix as a whole who could have seen it um I mean I will say this like that is a uh that is the positive version
Starting point is 03:30:51 of that company went fucking under you know the idea that it's like hey we just recycled the staff back into other projects and stuff is a better outcome and everybody got fucking axed um
Starting point is 03:31:07 and not just in a lot of big studios don't always do that necessarily sometimes they're just like no out you go so anyway that game clearly you know just that's that's a what is it been a month
Starting point is 03:31:23 or so perhaps less I don't know but um whatever the case I guess that's the end of that um no dlc no
Starting point is 03:31:39 expansion or any of that that's done and done I'm totally unshocked wildly unshocked I'm only surprised at how quickly the decision was made before the game even came out
Starting point is 03:32:03 well there's usually it could be there's usually a like proofing point you know a like this is going to happen unless yada yada you know but uh
Starting point is 03:32:19 yep so there goes that now of course even though that's um the results of the way that game was the team involved I'm going to look at that as like one of the better outcomes to the situation to what could happen
Starting point is 03:32:35 with the team could be worse thrown to a big pot of lava uh well how about one step up from that let's travel to Montpellier where
Starting point is 03:32:51 um the beyond good and evil 2 studio had exits the studio right as soon as the government started a labor investigation because they were concerned about staff getting
Starting point is 03:33:07 sick and burnt out at Ubisoft Montpellier so um you know I bet Ubisoft would be in a much better financial state if they didn't have two games two different games they've been working on for 10 plus
Starting point is 03:33:23 years that just burn money and will never come out um I would like to quote um one username uh Palimp
Starting point is 03:33:39 Palimpfest Monotype who said there's development hell but it turns out there's also development Calid alright okay I mean the picture
Starting point is 03:33:55 that you paint is the government opening the office door to a studio head stuffing papers into a briefcase and just booking just booking it and uh you know the journey to that door
Starting point is 03:34:13 involved employees passed out on the fucking ground uh in the process um yeah things not looking so great uh over over at ubi right now and you know that game that everyone's 100% certain will never
Starting point is 03:34:29 come out I don't think it's gonna come out well the only thing worse than than that is the thought that it's not coming out and it's killing people on the way to not coming out
Starting point is 03:34:45 people are getting sick and burning out working on a game and then all their work is getting thrown into the trash at the end of the day like you want like again as someone who fucking wants to see it happen wants to see it you know see the light of day there's something
Starting point is 03:35:03 to be said about like not only is it anti-happening it's absorbing the life force of those around it like fucking dear god man I have to I have to really put a pin on this
Starting point is 03:35:19 this is something that comes up with Beyond Good and Evil 2 but it's video game does it in general where like uh they announce it and then they work on it and then it's a sequel to an old thing I'm like when was Beyond Good
Starting point is 03:35:35 and Evil 2 announced to exist Gamecube xbox original era really? yep dude I was in high school so were you
Starting point is 03:35:51 right? we went through college university got jobs got different jobs got married like how long do they how long can any game of any
Starting point is 03:36:07 sequel of any type hold over hey man look it's that thing from before like that is a lifetime ago people are listening to this podcast that weren't alive when Beyond Good and Evil 1 came out
Starting point is 03:36:23 hands up if you're younger than 20 years old yeah well anyway it's uh it is exactly 20 years ridiculous um we'll find out more
Starting point is 03:36:47 I suppose when the government gets to the bottom of the situation but at the very least not not going good and then you're like here's the and then there's the other bit right you're like do you do you have that or do you have the it does come out
Starting point is 03:37:03 it disappoints on expectations because the process of getting it done over 20 years burnt out so many people and they restarted so many times that when they eventually said fuck it we have to put a deadline and release something no matter what which they never did until this point the thing that comes out
Starting point is 03:37:19 is a massive piece of shit like there is something that you you just you just touched on and I feel like we need to say it every time because people don't get it games that are in development for 20 years or 10 years or
Starting point is 03:37:35 5 years and then come out and their dog shit were not actually in development for 5 years or 10 years or 20 years the version that hit the shelf was made in like a year maybe a little more they threw out all the old shit they made
Starting point is 03:37:51 for most of that time because it was terrible or you get into the the the brook nukem the Duke nukem forever problem where they were making the game so slowly that the industry would pass them by and they would look at the build they have now this was cool when we started
Starting point is 03:38:07 but we took so long now it's dog shit we have to start over again in some cases you're looking at a passion project that one high ranking person is keeping afloat and sometimes that person leaves and then they go
Starting point is 03:38:23 is he gone okay fucking kick this shit out the door shut up ship it I don't care no one cares ship it it's a fucking lost leader at this point um yeah so that's that's what's coming out of
Starting point is 03:38:41 Ruby and you know what like is anyone really fucking surprised in the slightest like I mean I could just like that's one name you can say and it brings illicit this I could I could easily just say hey
Starting point is 03:38:57 everybody remember skull and bones exists and then you and then and then and then you feel that and then you're like oh yeah there was well okay well but but but here we are right we we get to talk about the Schrodinger's fucking games
Starting point is 03:39:13 um anyway um yeah not great when when labor investigation has to be done over the state of affairs but I guess we'll find out with this story
Starting point is 03:39:29 this reminds me of a recent hard drive article which oh disaster lead dev calls a meeting saying he played a hot new game
Starting point is 03:39:45 over the weekend and it's just like the amount of projects that have been absolutely annihilated and ruined by the lead going hey man I played a new game this weekend is it possible we could get this into the fucking
Starting point is 03:40:01 no no we can't wait hold on breaking news update wait hold on a minute CEO you've give more says beyond good and evil two is progressing well it's a fantastic world and and as you could see netflix decided to take the universe and create a movie
Starting point is 03:40:17 with it so there's a lot of progress and the team is working in the games coming along very well well okay then thanks now you know what guys sorry never mind story undo undo we take it back our bad we spoke too soon control z it's done you've gmo
Starting point is 03:40:33 says it's all that's actually good it's going well it's going well my bad it's going by mistake the government has officially stopped they've they've said they've recalled everyone the investigation's over everyone's going home turns out it's going good
Starting point is 03:40:49 no one in this office is a rapist also promised it's going good everything's going good netflix definitely none of that netflix would not have opted to work with the property if that were the case what do you come on hey stop it
Starting point is 03:41:09 you know what you know what's like wild you started to read like the government is investigating ubi soft and when you said for like workplace crunch stuff I like breathe the sigh of relief like that's that's where they're at
Starting point is 03:41:25 hmm mm-hmm mm-hmm now let's take some letters if you want to send if you want to send a letter into cast of super beast send it to castle super beast mail
Starting point is 03:41:41 at gmail.com that's castle super beast mail at gmail.com all right we got one coming in from uh no name given
Starting point is 03:41:57 so not gonna fucking dox you all right whoa but no one to blame hello war and pa I just watched uh willy's video on the french language and I wanted to bring to your attention the danish number system and how it works
Starting point is 03:42:13 it'll make you francophones appreciate what comparatively sensible numbers you've got 1 to 20 is as expected matches with the european languages 21 to 39 the only odd thing is that they put the single digits first so you say 1 and 20
Starting point is 03:42:31 okay I can handle that at 40 they swap over to multiples of 20s like the french do at 80 okay but then at 50 the danes go off the edge with half dreads
Starting point is 03:42:47 half dreads essentially meaning half threes which give you which arrive you at it meaning 50 by the following negative half plus 3 times 20
Starting point is 03:43:05 every odd multiple of 10 after 40 works the same so in danish 197 is 107 and half fives what the fuck is happening over there danmark what are you doing
Starting point is 03:43:21 danmark that is crazy that is bullshit oh god you're drunk you're god damn drunk go home terrible yeah no you see the thing is is like when I'm when I was properly you know
Starting point is 03:43:39 elaborating on why people should shit on french for the correct reasons it all comes down to the simple thing where it's like if you're going to make an equivalent in english the problem is when you start with a base 10 system and then you switch over to base 20 for no reason
Starting point is 03:43:55 yeah that's right in english there is a base 20 system it's called four score in seven years ago right and if you want to do that you can but imagine if you suddenly stopped using base 10 and switched over to score
Starting point is 03:44:11 once you got to 60 right it's the inconsistency as long as you pick one and stick with it like you know that's ultimately fine if I learned score is the only way and that's all we use then so be it we can count that way listening to somebody explain
Starting point is 03:44:27 the danish numbering system makes me feel like I have a fucking death watch on my arm and somebody needs to explain the key code to get through the nonary door shut up lotus I don't know anything about base 12 it feels like
Starting point is 03:44:43 we're playing what was it cypher we're in a chapter of cypher academy and the translator just quit alright let's take one over here it feels like a kojimaism
Starting point is 03:45:01 did you know that in the danish the danmark that you would say 155 9s minus 22 that's why these ghosts are taking us
Starting point is 03:45:17 I don't know here's one coming in from a knot who says hi there crosslip and frame trap a knot here a few podcasts ago pat talked about escape from tarkov while discussing dark and darker well neither of you have played
Starting point is 03:45:37 tarkov but there's some big news worth examining cheating in tarkov has been a known issue for a long time the community's a little salty that the devs haven't done more at least publicly to address the problem in the past two months everyone's generally
Starting point is 03:45:53 agreed that cheating has gotten worse and more prevalent and enter a streamer by the name of goat moth goat decided to investigate just how bad cheating was they made a video
Starting point is 03:46:09 but to summarize he downloads the cheats himself and walks among the cheaters posing as one of their own his data indicated that in 60% of the games he played there was at least one confirmed cheater the actual numbers likely to be
Starting point is 03:46:25 even higher given that he couldn't get information before dying in many instances he uncovered another part however with the cheaters unspoken rules and expected mannerisms crazy stuff that's fascinating needless to say it really blew up
Starting point is 03:46:41 and a lot of tarkov players legit and otherwise are pissed a lot of people are saying the tarkov is dead to them now the devs have yet to respond that's fucking like 60% have at least one confirmed and then they have their own behavior for if two people are cheating
Starting point is 03:46:57 how to behave cheating culture that is fascinating I know for a fact you didn't play much pubg but I was into pubg for a while and everybody that I knew who played pubg
Starting point is 03:47:13 fucking stopped playing pubg because it was like right after that the desert map came out where you would play a game and you would literally always get killed by somebody through a wall
Starting point is 03:47:29 or that you couldn't see it was like it was coming up on like 90% of your games you would encounter somebody cheating and killing you and you were just and then you hit the point of like you do one afternoon of that and you go what am I fucking doing
Starting point is 03:47:45 of course exactly why am I bothering with this fucking shit now I remember when like I guess the moment they figured out how to cheat in rumbleverse and there were a number of people that were just going at it and it was kind of funny because it was that type of cheating where
Starting point is 03:48:01 someone would cheat and get to the final ring but get killed anyway yeah and you're just like how dog shit are you that you cheated and still died like there's like things like that you know where it's
Starting point is 03:48:17 helping you by like locking on some of your attack or you just float around or all kinds of horseshit would start happening attacks from super far away would work but somehow you still got knocked out in fifth place it's kind of hilarious but that requires you to show up
Starting point is 03:48:33 and fight people versus getting sniped from a full fucking you know map away with whatever else was going on in PUBG yeah that is fascinating have you seen anything like that before well we just kind of mentioned it but yeah
Starting point is 03:48:49 it completely completely ruined PUBG like crazy fucking awful like to make fun of like Valorant I remember Valorant had that thing where it has the kernel level anti-cheat on it
Starting point is 03:49:05 and like that's still ridiculous but I can understand why they were like we need to do this because we can't let the game be ruined by this because it's ruined a game we got rid of all the cheaters guys everybody who left
Starting point is 03:49:21 because they got killed by some dude a million miles away through a wall come back like no never though funnily enough I bit the bullet tried to install Valorant I have never been able to get Valorant to boot on my computer ever
Starting point is 03:49:37 across three different computers just won't do it no okay fine you don't want me to play your stupid game I'm deleting your shit off my computer goodbye I'm still going to say that soul's cheating is probably the worst
Starting point is 03:49:53 in that like it doesn't ruin your gameplay experience it potentially causes you to get banned as well so I disagree massively because cheaters in soul's games are 100% avoidable by playing offline
Starting point is 03:50:09 or in Elden Ring you're never going to encounter an invader unless you're playing with co-op people yeah well I'm thinking about when the souls especially the most recent thing happened where they had to pull the servers off to deal with that shit because like you could
Starting point is 03:50:25 like not have that option in the older games invasions were connectivity was going to happen at certain points and if someone shows up and drops a corrupt item you're fucking banned and that's it so okay
Starting point is 03:50:43 good question good detail I think that's really fun by the way Woolly Tarkov I don't know if you remember like cheating in Tarkov is extra infuriating because you're supposed to be able to escape with the gear you got so getting killed from a cheater
Starting point is 03:50:59 doesn't just like lose you that run it also like annihilates your progress from like everything you've collected or whatever right yeah no that would be absolutely off I'm so fascinated though by the whole bit about culture because it's like
Starting point is 03:51:15 when we saw those forum posts of the cheat forums where people were complaining about getting banned it's the first glimpse you get into what it feels like to talk to these assholes I've also talked about it with talking to rage quitters and yomi hustle and shit
Starting point is 03:51:31 I'm so interested in when the asshole actually has to speak for themselves somewhere what do they have to say is it just lol lamow you know or is there more those people are the people that don't hear the voice in their head when they think
Starting point is 03:51:47 mmm yeah right wasn't what's the percentage again 50% half the world doesn't have an internal monologue yeah terrifying scares the shit out of me don't understand
Starting point is 03:52:03 are you even alive are you even alive fuckin one of the best one of the best awesome players snafu from our region I remember he talked about the we talked about that and he's like yeah he doesn't have any and I was just like I like
Starting point is 03:52:19 it's like what is it like going through life you know and it's just like are you just a series of inputs and outputs moment to moment it just happens thing you just you get to the same places but you just don't you don't hear the voice you know yeah it's fascinating
Starting point is 03:52:35 don't understand it's so outside my my realm of experience that I can't even I can't even touch on it I wonder I mean clearly if it's that many people it's like it's almost like something where
Starting point is 03:52:51 like you they wouldn't even have known that people did have an inner voice until you someone brought it up you know yeah but anyways I love peeking into fucking asshole etiquette and seeing the behavior
Starting point is 03:53:07 that's pretty interesting I like that's the term asshole etiquette the etiquette of being a rage quitter though the rage quitting thing is always much more it's much less satisfying than the cheating thing because the cheating thing there's always like a like a weird moralistic
Starting point is 03:53:23 explanation and then the rage quitting is usually like petty it's like I'm not giving them my points they don't deserve it because they were cheap and it's like yeah at least now you get an achievement for someone quitting on you so
Starting point is 03:53:39 that's cool alright that'll do it good podcast excellent also we didn't talk about RE4 only thing to say about RE4 is the new trailer came out looks great and it shows off that they are not cutting anything
Starting point is 03:53:55 they showed off a lot of weird silly shit in that that I would assume they were gonna cut like mine carts and double El Gigante fights but nope it's all gonna be there everything's gonna be there I saw Suzy
Starting point is 03:54:11 tweeting about the mine cart with Salvador riding in it and I'm kinda just like man can we get like a like a fan made RE RE cart well you're getting Bloodborne cart which is pretty close
Starting point is 03:54:27 that's exactly what made me think of that you know yeah that's fucking great alright have a good week everybody later you

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