Castle Super Beast - CSB 224: Your Pre Natal Photos Presented By Unregistered Hypercam2

Episode Date: June 20, 2023

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Starting point is 00:00:00 МУЗЫКАЛЬНАЯ ЗАСТАВКА We are in fact flying. We are on. We are on. Hello everyone. How is everyone? How are you today, Willie? How you doing? All right, not bad. Okay, so I'm gonna assume based on last week's little Miguel reference that you saw spider-vers. No, no, okay, I went to go see it last night. No, I did not. Okay, not see spider-vers. I know what's what's been happening is that I don't know what's going on. I don't maybe it's maybe it's a comic book people or or or whatever, but No, nobody gives a shit about spoilers times a million anymore Scrolling through like any social media is like, man, I really loved it.
Starting point is 00:01:28 And here's like an animated gif of like a camera of the movie. Yeah. And it's like, it's like, it's, oh my god, it's crazy. I mean, I don't know. I keep, I'm gonna keep saying this every time it comes up, but like, I'm getting close to perfecting my Complete back out of a ton of social media. I've minimized I've aggressively minimized the amount that I'm consuming day to day It's making me happier
Starting point is 00:01:57 And I'm definitely not getting like wild from left field spoilers as much as I used to Which means I can enjoy things a lot more these days. And I really do like I did, man, I got into Spiderverse. I go went to watch it. It was late by, I guess, you know, a week or two, but I didn't get spoiled on it. So like I have essentially seen the entire movie by accident. Well, fuck, you know, so okay. Okay. There's also like, fuck. You know, so, okay, okay.
Starting point is 00:02:25 There's also like, there's different layers, right? Because there's the, it's been a while since, but I always bring it up like there's dude in your Twitter sending it to you directly. Go in, yeah, that's the most ridiculous. Insane, right? And then there's similarly Dark Souls 3 release day PlayStation
Starting point is 00:02:48 Feed Fucking a pop-up video for people that are currently streaming. Hey, do you want to see the last boss being streamed right now? I could I could and I remember that what killed me about that is that I saw its name. Yeah, yeah Like I didn't see that I didn't see the boss, the boss was just like a red blur, but I saw the name and I'm like, it's the morning of the release, man. So that shit is just, you know,
Starting point is 00:03:14 the peak of unavoidable nonsense, but no, it's been something that it's gotten a lot more palatable and better by. I guess I just like, I cut out a lot of the randomness coming my way, I suppose. So thankfully, a lot of that gone. There's often times to like, if you follow cool Twitter accounts that are artists, like sometimes artists will just be like, yo, I'm drawing my favorite character who happens to be the thing that happens, you know.
Starting point is 00:03:47 And it's the third act of the movie I'll never. Here's my take on Indian Spider-Man. I think his name is Parvati, Parv, something. It's like Peter Parvato. I really loved it. I really loved it when he was like this and was like this and oh my god and I'm like I think the movie came out yesterday Yeah, so I mean obviously as you can imagine from the way it's it's been set up like everything and it is just like non-stop references and Deep cuts and polls and stuff
Starting point is 00:04:21 Super awesome. Yeah, you know Spider-Man India being there is like super fun. Although I fucking, I'm a bit sour that they didn't use the reveal outfit that he had, because when you look up Spider-Man India on Google, take a look at the default costume you get. That thing is so much cooler than the one that they gave him. But anyways, it's basically Spider-Man with the pants, and then he's got like the kind of like the spider pattern and going down the middle of the fabric and it hangs and create secondary animation when he swings. It's super cool.
Starting point is 00:04:55 The one that they made is not as cool, you know? But anyway. So I'm in a very strange space with Spider-Verse. So first of all, I still very much want to see the movie, but I'm not exactly Jones and to go see it in a theater because of this, but now I'm in a state in which I've like, okay, I know the entire plot of the film. All the way up until to be continued.
Starting point is 00:05:22 Oh wow,ing post credits. Just awesome. Oh, I can't even, all right. Yeah. But because of that, I'm now in a weird place of like, the movie's pretty long, right? It's like two or a half. Oh, it's two and 19, 220?
Starting point is 00:05:41 It's insanely long. So like, I'm now sitting here going like well I know that that happens probably at the beginning and this happens in the middle and this happens again like Well, what are they fill up the rest? So so I mean two things one everyone disagrees with me on the India Costume that's fine. I like it aesthetically. I always thought it was dope. I Imagine it would look too similar to the rest of the regular Spider-Man's running around.
Starting point is 00:06:09 So the current redesign stands out more. But either way, I like the original. Now what can I say? The way that the events unfold is, it's really interesting because it's so fucking amazing. The first one is so amazingly animated that this time around, it felt like they tried to challenge themselves and like push it even further and harder and do more creative things with the colors, with the composition, with you know, the emotional tone of scenes.
Starting point is 00:06:40 So there's a lot of like parental angst in the movie and like every time that those moments happen you see different types of like water color backgrounds or sharp ink usage or like high contrast for depending on where you are what the setting is and they play with it in such really awesome ways that like I don't think anything in that movie is particularly unpredictable. There's like one or two moments that are just like oh shit whoa what the fuck but a lot of it is very like yeah okay I would imagine that's what would happen next but it's more about how they do it definitely it's this is one of those examples of like like they kind of make a point almost of, you know how like Peter Parker has his uncle Ben moment? Well, obviously we're gonna like echo that idea and go like, yeah, there's a whole lot of that,
Starting point is 00:07:33 but it's like it's more like what does that mean for different Spider-Man and what is that? You know, how does that like take place? You know, in a way that like I guess you just kind of deal with the human moment of what every character has to deal with in that regard and so on. It's really, really good at the little subtle interactions and the way dialogue flows out. It's notably natural.
Starting point is 00:08:03 They do it. It's obviously fun with the action and they're doing tons of crazy things. They've already proven that they can kill it at that. In this case, I feel like they kill it at character's standing and talking. And that's hard. Yeah, they do such a good job of that.
Starting point is 00:08:19 And it helps when standing and talking is also immensely creative. So spider punk, standing and talking is also immensely creative. So spider punk, standing and talking is visually interesting at all times. And because he's punk, he's breaking the rules of like just standing around. He's fucking just whatever is happening is anti-establishment.
Starting point is 00:08:42 And like him simply existing in frame at all times is like a super cool thing and they call attention to it. You know, they're like, like, there's literally like a line at one point that's like, how are you even cooler under the mask? It's ridiculous, you know? And he says, I was this cool the whole time. Yeah. And this is from a character who used to just be fucking, uh, it was just the outfit
Starting point is 00:09:07 with the mohawk and you're like, yep, with the mohawk on it. There's nothing to it, right? Um, obviously there's some gags in there that are like, I feel like, uh, uh, I attacked and targeted because as the only Scarlet Spiders fan in the world, Ben Riley gets his fucking come up in. You are not the only Scarlet Spider fan in the world. Lots of people like Ben Riley. It's so fucking cool to see him in there and then immediately he starts, not only throwing under the bus, he moves under there and resides under the bus for the entirety
Starting point is 00:09:47 Scarlet spider is awesome and he gets nothing. It's great I'll live I can live in that world. He's he's just he's just a punchline But I kind of when I was laughing really hard and punch mom was like why are you like the mo we were laughing at most of the moments But she's like why are you laughing so specifically at that one and it's because I was thinking about why are you like the mo we were laughing at most of the moments, but she's like, why are you laughing so specifically at that one? And it's because I was thinking about one, how I like Scarlet Spider, how I get made fun of for liking Scarlet Spider and how people probably are like, oh, this is another almost codal con like fucking, uh, uh, oh yeah, you are a magnetized, cool looking characters, the job for so for no reason. But then I also identified something else that I
Starting point is 00:10:25 I'm like wait I like I'm I always I always I'm like yo back in the day What was up with it? Why did I like it? I'm like aesthetically? I liked what do you how he looked right? I'm like what was that and I was like oh I Realize something now I feel and maybe I'm wrong on this timeline anyone who knows spider-man like the back of their Hand will probably be able to correct me but from my timeline, getting into Marvel stuff back in the day, the thing that we like and see a lot now is Spider-Man with casual outfits. So we see, if we see Spider-Man with a jacket, homecoming style, if we see Spider-Man with the way Miles rocks it with a hoodie, with a backpack, right, Tim's, Jordan's, like, there's all these little layers
Starting point is 00:11:05 of like, ooh, the Spider-Man outfit plus like streetwear is a really cool look, right? We're super down with that. Back when Scarlet Spider first came around, the blue ripped sleeve hoodie and the Sharpie for a logo was the first example of that I had ever really seen that I recall.
Starting point is 00:11:24 And I was like, I love that look of Spider-Man with a casual outfit dropped on top of it, as opposed to just the traditional costume or the different variations of the cool outfits for the action figure. I remember seeing that look with the loose kind of informality of that blue hoodie. And I was like, oh shit, I like seeing that look with the loose kind of like informality of that that blue hoodie, and I was like, Oh, shit, I like that a lot. And that's kind of the thing we like
Starting point is 00:11:49 now where they take a spider man, give him punk rock, fucking mohawk and put a studs on him, you know? So I'm like, Oh, yeah, that explains why I liked him, especially when he was running around with venom and spider man in their very traditional full outfits for Planet of the Symbiates, you know? And so with that, you know, and of course Gwen's hoodie is another cool of like cool like little addition to it and so on. But yeah, anyway, all that to say that the movie takes a very, like, yeah, it takes a pretty predictable concept obviously
Starting point is 00:12:20 with like, you know, going into the multiverse and I think a lot of people are also like, okay, like multiverse is a thing, it's happening a bunch, we're touching on it a whole lot now. How do we keep this interesting? And fortunately, the answer is just compelling characters can tell a compelling story. Um, well, one of the other reasons is like just more. More. Like how many of these motherfuckers can you fit into a single frame? Yeah, certainly. But really, it's like the reason why this is good,
Starting point is 00:12:57 it's enjoyable and it works even though we're approaching, like saturation with multiviring is because Miles Morales is a great character and his parents are fantastic. Right. Gwen is a great character and same for her, you know, parental's her parent. And like, I feel as if when you get to see, again, obviously old Peter is a fun character as well. Like that stands out so much more than the actual, like, universe-hopping nonsense that kind of you expect to get tired of, you know? So I don't know, man. I mean, multiverse is just starting up. They are just starting up.
Starting point is 00:13:45 And I think if you don't do a good job making us caring about who's going through those portals, then we're gonna check the fuck out mentally. But they did an excellent job making you give a fuck, you know? And then secondary to that stuff being really fun and compelling is, oh yeah, it's Miguel from F***ing Spider-Man 2009. Remember that loser? God, what a dweeb, right? Like, Bofnow.
Starting point is 00:14:11 Yeah, and, you know, and then like, oh, remember the f*** it? Yes, there's all the little member of that, member of that. Like, all of the little cameos and bits and pieces are there for you to acknowledge and remember, but they absolutely take like, not even second wheel wheel but third wheel to Just how good the the character moments are, you know
Starting point is 00:14:35 It was kind of crazy that at the end of a nearly two and a half long our Animated movie which animation never goes that long, right? It's the longest western animated movie ever. It's insane that they went that long. And at the end of it, when they hit you with that, yeah, it's to be continued. I punch, I almost like don't worry though, it's next year just kidding. It's actually 10 years from now.
Starting point is 00:14:58 Punch, I was like, aww, yeah, no, and I was like, oh, no, that's fine. This was so dense, there was so much set up and then so much happened that I'm like, yeah, I like, the amount of stuff that there was still being set up in the last 10 minutes, I had that fear where I'm like, well, don't set this up only to give us five minutes of it
Starting point is 00:15:20 and then bump the credits, right? And so like, there were still interesting things happening all the way through and it would have sucked to just like ham fist and race towards finishing it right when they were doing stuff. So no, it was dense, it was a good movie and then we're fine to get a third part. So it's going to be into a cross and then beyond. I feel like maybe this is just a gut reaction based off of nothing, but I feel like beyond the spiderverse is the naming convention is either going to go back to being small scale or going like literally beyond the Spider-Man license.
Starting point is 00:16:02 Hmm. I mean, that certainly could be the implication, right? If you want to talk about the direct things happening in the movie, into the Spider-Verse, did bring you into it, and then across does take you across it. So yeah, you know, beyond could go that way. But you certainly also got to remember it's a,
Starting point is 00:16:22 it is a Spider-man movie and I sure Imagine Marvel doesn't want too many of their toes stepped on Especially considering that this thing is blowing their current efforts out of the water aggressively say like I had a very you mentioned the multiverse fatigue and I have to say it had this this interesting conversation when I was talking to Paige about this and she just had this look on her face and she's like I'm on I'll be honest the instant I hear the word multiverse my brain just kind of believes and I'm like, you're kind of right.
Starting point is 00:17:05 Like this is the good one. This, this is the one that is good, but like it's all of a sudden, like it's everything is your multiverse. And you're completely muted. Sorry about that weird. Okay. No, I actually hit the button.
Starting point is 00:17:36 Yeah, it absolutely does. And then you have the part where you, uh, you mentally check out because you're tired of the concept, but there's a thing that happens as well that, where did I touch on this? It was a game we played at some point recently, but when you get into multi-versing conceptually, you fuck around too hard, and it means that your consequences don't matter.
Starting point is 00:18:02 The small things don't matter. Don't matter, shit. Because who cares actually? And people dying is irrelevant and stakes are always small because there's always more. So you cross a line that you can't uncross. Do you remember when we used to watch Rick and Morty, but we wouldn't tell anybody because like people
Starting point is 00:18:21 who watched Rick and Morty were so visibly intensely and embarrassing that you didn't even to admit that you watched it. Sure. Even in the first season, that show established that the characters are aware that they're in an infinite multiverse, so every time a character died, they would just literally reach into a green portal and pull the same fucking character out and go, okay, nothing happened. Right.
Starting point is 00:18:40 And so it's a comedy show, so there's no stakes or whatever. Right, and so it's a comedy show so there's no stakes or whatever But when you attach that to like a real Drama property or something Mm-hmm, and you just establish like oh, yeah It's hard to reestablish Stakes unless you make them emotionally personal or or what happened. Yeah, like bio That's what I was- How much can I fucking care about any of those dead bitches when there's a million?
Starting point is 00:19:07 That's what I was gonna, yeah, I was gonna, like it was Bale that I was talking about the same concept with recently, where you just don't have any reason to give a fuck because everything is disposable. There's always more, and it's hard to tell a compelling story when you have infinitely disposable characters in worlds.
Starting point is 00:19:29 And you know, there's also the part where like, and this, I mean, this goes back to me to a lot of other movies, but it's like the threat of the end of everything becomes so A, it's too big to really prop think about and B, like it's just, that's also tired, you know, the idea that the stakes here are literally all of existence is that all the time and everything, you're like, all right, it doesn't have to be that every time, guys, you know. We get tired of that. So I always go back to Mass Effect, which you're closing in on,
Starting point is 00:20:11 of like, and you're doing Citadel, right? Like Citadel is small scale. Some trauma. And then the party and hanging out. And then it's like, back to saving the galaxy. It's like, multiverse stuff like you're saying is like, save the world, save the galaxy, save the universe.
Starting point is 00:20:28 Nah, fuck that. Save the entirety of conceptual existence. You know. That's a lot. That's a lot. And meanwhile, all you really want as an audience, whether you know what or not, is for characters you like to come of age age overcome and learn something
Starting point is 00:20:46 about themselves. You know? It's all you want. Especially silly with, sorry after you. No, I'm like all you really want is personal character growth. The very extremely small, conclusion of disco-aleeism, is just a personal revelation inside of one person, and it has more meaning than a million fucking MCU movies that ended with like, city to global disaster, you know, or like, a burning city to global disaster. It's so much more meaningful when one person that you care about is able to just grow. That's all that really matters, man. Oh, from what I can tell, from across the spiderverse, they did a really great job in dodging that in terms of multiverse threat, blah, blah, blah.
Starting point is 00:21:37 But it's like the emotional core of something like Spider-Man is I bet Peter wished he had been a little bit faster that one time when was falling. Mm-hmm, mm-hmm. And like, and like that, that's like the core. Yeah. And it doesn't matter how big you make it, if that's the core you can relate.
Starting point is 00:21:57 And like, you know, that the, and the other part, I guess, is like, and this applies to a lot of superhero things, guess, is like, and this applies to a lot of superhero things, but it would be so cool to be able to soar through the streets and do all that cool stuff, but are you sure you want the bad shit? Because the bad shit really, really sucks. And there's always a, like,
Starting point is 00:22:21 how do we make the proposition of the, what's the word I'm looking for? And there's always a like, how do we make the proposition of the, what's the word I'm looking for? The, not self-insert. Well, whatever the word for when you create a character that you wanna, you wanna visualize yourself as and that's the appeal is like imagining yourself as like having self-powers. Yeah, anyway, like the power fantasy, the power fantasy.
Starting point is 00:22:44 You wanna make the, you wanna make the, like the power fantasy, the power fantasy. Yeah. You want to make the proposition of the power fantasy suddenly have a cost that someone might reconsider for a moment or so. That's often what they do, you know, so. In any case, yeah, this is a, so historically, hey, Spider-Man, flip, flip. Oh wait, Spider-Man's life in every version of Spider-Man
Starting point is 00:23:02 I've ever seen has been a complete disaster. Awful, right. It sucks ass to be Spider-Man's life in every version of Spider-Man I've ever seen has been a complete disaster. Awful, right? It sucks ass to be Spider-Man. Yeah, to the point where at least as far as the comics go from what I can tell on the outside for memes, there is a concerted effort to just keep him away from Mary Jane. They, you know, like at a buy all means because like you can't have that. There needs to be Relationship disaster. I don't want to talk about Paul in this podcast
Starting point is 00:23:30 Fine well the yeah, no, but but it's it's fucking great and it's it's a marvel of like Animation fucking just excellence They have overshadowed their previous efforts. They've challenged themselves with like new levels of difficulty in animation and crushed it. There's a cute little shot very early in the movie where Miles like zips up a staircase. That is just like, visually astonishing. It's so cool. And then they also, like they take something like the way you
Starting point is 00:24:16 saw the first movie. And for some people, it was like the frame rate, had a bit of a like, oh, I'm not used to seeing it like this. And it's not smooth. I don't, like there's a bit of, you know, some people had that bit of a like, oh, I'm not used to seeing it like this. And it's not smooth. I don't like, there's a bit of, you know, some people had that kind of reaction to it. I was like, no, no, this looks really, really cool. If you could appreciate stylistically
Starting point is 00:24:33 what they're going for, in this case, like the different dimension characters moving in different ways is intended. That's each other within the same show. Yes, it's, it's,. Yes, it's so much more canonically like explainable and awesome to see that you want to see those little things. You want to see little stop motion characters moving in stop motion or live action things moving in live action, you know.
Starting point is 00:25:00 And they do an amazing job mixing and matching characters moving at different frame rates in the same scene. It's insane, you know. If you had to look at any given like in the trailers they show you like there's a chase, you know, we're like a billion spider-man or chasing miles and it's like if you had to imagine like one animator taking care of one character in each one of these scenes, you know, like that is a gargantuan effort in some cases and like they overlap it, but it doesn't become noise except for the times that they want it to be. There are some scenes where they want you to look in the background and go, that's a big
Starting point is 00:25:37 indesernable blur of red webs. Then when you hit the space bar at home and you can go, oh, Marvel versus Capcom Spider-Man is there. Sure, right. Yeah. Like, they, like, they, they, it's very clear when they want you to be able to make out like this and that and that and the individual ones.
Starting point is 00:25:56 And then when they want it to just be a catamari of Spider-Man's rolling in your direction, it looks like that too. Fucking great movie, man. Yeah. So, uh, man. Yeah, so. So, I have an interesting perspective on this because I think what's happening with me and across the spiderverse is exactly what happened with me and Puss and Boots the last wish, which is there's a certain type of film that exists in a, I'm gonna say a post a post-modern spoiler state, in that I don't even care I want to look at the movie.
Starting point is 00:26:37 Yes, right? You could have handed me the script to across the spider verse, And I could have read that whole goddamn thing. And I get to go, yeah, I don't give a shit. I want to see the pretty pictures because this is a fucking cinematic fucking like explosion of art. Right? I want to see it. There, here, can we hit E-Mode only for a second? Yeah, we can. All right, it didn't work for me, so someone hit that. I can do it. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:27:13 I'm maybe gonna do it. I don't know if I'm even a mod in this. It is, whatever. I am. Okay, there is, when you wanna talk about just seeing the movie, right? Yeah. Like, the different styles at play, I have mentioned live action, I've mentioned stop motion, et cetera.
Starting point is 00:27:33 You go as far and as wide as you can. Artistically, they need to challenge themselves. One of the things they challenge themselves with is a character that straight up is basically moving like the antispiral. And looks like a fucking sketchbook moving through. Looks like something out of like Mob Psycho. It's so cool. It's such a fucking cool visual thing.
Starting point is 00:27:58 And like that again is like whatever, you know, like just seeing the way that they execute on that while everything else looks normal is unbelievable, you know? So I'm equally as interested in seeing the how they made this and I wanna do a second watch for sure on the details and stuff. Because it's like, it's meant to be triple in third watch, even in some cases,
Starting point is 00:28:28 just to appreciate how they fucking didn't, man. Yeah, yeah. So anyway, I mean, immediate, heavy recommend on all of that. And, yeah, spoilers are not, man. Worth it for over here. So here's the flip side of that and yeah spoilers are not man worth it for so here's here's the the flip side of that so yeah the being watching getting spoil a home movie doesn't affect my desire to see it at all I'm still very much excited to see his specs it affects the speed at which I want to see it right because like I'm
Starting point is 00:28:58 not gonna drag myself out to a theater I'll just wait for to watch it at home with the wife, right? but The same thing happened for a different movie. Oh, no and Bro, I got a fucking I Gotta get to fucking see the flash goddamn. I gotta see that movie now That is the ugliest fucking thing of parade of corpses. I don't movie. It is like the, it is like the most visually and morally disgusting movie I have ever
Starting point is 00:29:41 heard of. That is a very disrespectful way to describe Michael Keaton and I don't support it. I do not endorse this. I don't know how familiar you are when I but when I say there is a parade of corpses in this movie. I I really mean it. Okay. Uh so that movie CGI's a bunch of dead people onto characters like a bunch What? Five or six like dead actors dead actors you not characters not dead characters No dead actor in their old role Like a bunch I can think of at least three right now Wow, there's there's one guy who people are asking him
Starting point is 00:30:32 I really like to in the flash and he's like I didn't do the flash What do you I didn't go down and film a movie like oh that's right because they just CGI'd your young man face Holy shit. Oh, there's four dead people at least. Because like, okay, so if I'm not mistaken, when they got, um, was with Grand Admiral Thrawn, uh, in Spider-Man, they kind of like, uh, in Spider-Man, they kinda like, it's Spider-Man, it's Star Wars. They're not thrawn, god damn it, um, fucking, what's his name? Grandmawph Tarkin. Tarkin, yeah. When they got Grandmawph, they'd Tarkin, CG'd into stuff.
Starting point is 00:31:19 They at least talked to his family and like, made that something that they approved. If I'm not mistaken, as well as Carrie Fisher. Sure. Sure. So there's the estate said, okay, to the like this is being used there. What is happening with flesh?
Starting point is 00:31:38 Okay, so I'm gonna tiny spoil little piece of the flesh here, okay? This, so giving you the big warning, okay? Here's the big warning You saw from the trailers that Michael Keaton is in the flash, right? I did because flash is doing the time travel flashpoint kind of storyline thing That means that there are possibility for other superman's and other bad man's to show up such as Christopher Reeves Adam West
Starting point is 00:32:11 The black and white Superman actor who killed himself because Superman ruined his career Jesus fuck I don't know if you remember that I actually forget his name There If you remember that, I actually forget his name. There, you're all there. You're all there. You're all there. Yeah, I'm a George Reeve. Yeah. And the guy who played Jay Garrick,
Starting point is 00:32:36 the flash in like the 50s. Oh shit, old flash. Yeah, he's the gentleman who's like, I wasn't in that movie. What are you talking about? Because they just CGI'd a homunculus version of his younger self into it without even telling him Right shit, man. Wow. Okay. Wow. Yeah, I have not seen the flash. I have seen bits and pieces of the flash such as
Starting point is 00:33:07 the flash. I have seen bits and pieces of the flash such as, um, so, okay, you know what? People will reverse and chop and fuck with a clip from a movie to make it look really bad. Mm-hmm. There's a clip going around of Ezra Miller putting a baby in a microwave and going, ha-ha, and a woman screaming that looks like nightmaremare Shit. Turns out that's reversed. You watch the regular scene, hey, guess what? It's still Nightmare Shit because the whole scene looks like a nightmare. There is a gentleman on the Twitter.com
Starting point is 00:33:39 who has a review of the flash that cemented me and Paige to watch the flash. We have to see it as soon as we can. If you would give me two or three minutes, I will recite it to you because it seems to gel with the clips that I have seen. Okay. I just I guess I would just like to remark at this point that having not known anything about anything here except for the return of fucking Michael Keaton, over time there has been this like, I remember when I when like random like Twitter feed stuff started talking about an Ezra Miller and I'm like, I don't know who that is. What is, what is any of this, right? And criminal.
Starting point is 00:34:25 Yeah, I'm like, I literally have no idea. And then like that, like ramped up. And then it was like, oh, the movie's coming out. And then this criminal apparently is like there and they're like, oh, we're still doing it, I guess. And it's like, yeah, too late now. It's, it's happening. And so anyway, there's a little bit of a like well.
Starting point is 00:34:47 As our Miller one is crime spree. Involving kidnapping of children. Yeah, that sounds insane. Um, so, uh, okay, so now then, um, the question as to how, uh, or why the, like why the release of this movie would go forward is like, well, if the movie itself has what you're describing, it's super good in this kind of work into it. Well, then I mean, I guess the ethics in question
Starting point is 00:35:16 are not really in question, that much. It's like, at the end of the day, we have somebody in the chat who worked on the film's special effects. They say that their parts look good. I believe you, but I have to continue forward with this because after hearing this movie review, this is from Houston,
Starting point is 00:35:35 Coley at Art Within Pod. Yeah, I don't know anything about anything. All right, I went into the flash truly thinking that maybe I'd somehow be pleasantly surprised. This is the most offensively awful major blockbuster I've seen in the theater since suicide squad in 2016. Not just bad, it's a ghoulishly uncanny and grotesque cat's level nightmare. This is an obnoxious movie full of disgusting slash puke-related humor, uncanny valley CGI
Starting point is 00:36:04 monstrosities that rival polar express, an insufferable lead who is socially inept in ways that feel unbelievable, a paper thin message, and a final shot so stupid that my jaw dropped, I've actually seen that shot, they're dead on, it is astonishing. I can't imagine being a Snyder fan and liking this, it's every bit as offensive in its stupidity and awful humor, as Joss Weedon's Justice League and does just as much to take Snyder's stylistic vision and wall-marnify it. The movie just looks ugly and feels dumb. It is rich that this hits just after Spider-Fers, a movie that thoughtfully meditates on how tragedy defines heroism
Starting point is 00:36:40 and whether or not we can change that. And where A.T.S. V. says maybe this makes Barry's tragedy into a mutable canon event and rests on a contrived theme about moving on, this movie feels like it has a vendetta to make Ezra Miller appear as unappealing as possible. Gross shots of eating, distorced parts where their face gets stretched out, grotesque wide angle closeups, Seth Rogenlapter, and a suit where the joke is that it makes them look stupid. Merely's performance is like a mix between Bugs Bunny, Jim Carrey's most obnoxious character actor phase, and a CGI digital double, so obvious that it makes you wonder how the parent
Starting point is 00:37:21 trap did this better in the 60s. The craziest thing is that this movie ends in a way that makes everything we've just watched both cease to exist and cease to matter. Barry learns things, yes, but the entire mission of the film is proved to be both empty and devoid of meaning or purpose. I don't understand how any fan wouldn't be insulted by so many things here. The way Supergirl's Handle makes her pointless. The way Batman is handled makes him pointless. The Multiverse Dia DC Camus are pointless. It's also hollow. And may I reiterate, this thing is ugly. Not just the wax baby VFX, but the general overcast sky look during everything not in the speed force.
Starting point is 00:38:06 So much of it feels like the Civil War airport, but with less visual clarity, the aesthetic of a blurry overexposed iPod touch selfie. The notion that all of Hollywood love this movie feels undeniably staged and paid off. It is impossible. The only thing I'm really anxious is the notion that James Gunn loved it. James, you know you're better than this. Call Sam Remy.
Starting point is 00:38:30 I've got no idea what Andy Muschetti does here that would make him suitable for Batman, unless your Batman film is set in broad daylight with a pandering hero worship that feels like a parody rather than humanity. It's cheap. The action is combatos. Matt Reeves, stay winning. And it goes on and on and on and on and on and on.
Starting point is 00:38:48 Okay. So I mean, confirm a couple things to that, which is the movie. Every single thing I see from it is like probably the ugliest movie I've ever seen in my life. Like visually repugnant. Like, that's a mouthful. Um, I definitely, I'm curious now to see for myself because that sounds insane and I'm like, I want to see it so bad. That is that actually as bad. Like, is it really? Wow. I mean, holy shit. I'm, um, and if it is as bad as that fucking sounds, um, I am just, I guess saddened because the thing I've wanted more than any of, I don't know, the only thing I've cared about with any of that, it was like, oh, man, it would be cool if Michael Keaton got to be Batman again.
Starting point is 00:39:40 So, yeah, fuck, man. That's a waste. I, I, that's a waste. I that's a Mungus waste of a cool thing if so There's a shot that I can think of that is Barry running through the speed force and He like pauses to like steal a hot dog out of a guy's hand with his mouth And it's like it's it's barf work. It looks disgusting.
Starting point is 00:40:07 It looks fucking gross. He's like, he's like slow most stealing a hot dog out of a guy's hand and going, oh, and it's like, oh my god, it's gross. We wasted. We wasted Michael Keaton on that That's fucking shitty man. Oh you what? Well, I mean if you want to talk about it you wasted a lot more than Michael Keaton on that. Yeah
Starting point is 00:40:36 You can talk about how you wasted George Clooney on it You can talk about how you wasted Nick Cage on it Jesus Christ. Okay, so they went for it is what it sounds like. It sounds like they went for a we didn't quite end game with Justice League. So let's just go even crazier and see if we can really go nuts and end game with this. That's what it sounds like. If you're dropping the names you just did and then in, you know, including the dead, like, that seems like dead. Yeah. That seems like we wanted to subspace emissary, you know, our universe a little bit. Many dead actors were brought out to make this bad movie.
Starting point is 00:41:26 I did not know that this was supposed to be a like celebratory event. Event, you know, yeah, I didn't realize, yeah, that's crazy. Okay. Well, uh, shame about. We'll not be buying a ticket to see this movie. I just want to see it really bad. I Can't believe this is all like Like the these two coming out right next to each other. It's the funniest fucking thing in the world
Starting point is 00:41:55 But also the bad that is headlined by crime Yeah, and I'll be like oh, there's what's on tech talk And I'll be like you're flash was so peak dude everything TikTok. And I'll be like, you'll blast with so peak, dude. Everything up until this point. DC stay winning. And so everything up until this point, I sounded like people were like, oh man, what if a criminal in a good movie though?
Starting point is 00:42:16 Why'd they have to do it with him? Excuse me, with them. And like, now it seems as if I guess that's just part of the noise of what is essentially a like justice league two in every sense of the word. Yeah, I got. Oh. Okay. All right. Well, I gotta see it. I gotta see it. I gotta see that bad movie way better than the good movie because the good movies are gonna stay good forever. All right, so Yeah, no Race to theaters It just made me laugh because you we were you started to talk about like oh, yeah, multiverse
Starting point is 00:42:56 You can you can kind of screw up your story and make it mean nothing. I'm like well, right? To the flash sir It's like, well, right. I present to you the flash, sir. Yeah, no, the spider versus is a fucking, that's a, celebrate the animators of that. And also, what's really cool is, for the longest time, America has had, you guys have had like premium theaters,
Starting point is 00:43:22 with your like, Alamo Draft House style seating and that whole thing. We haven't had that in Montreal until now. They finally do have a like premium theater kind of other experience thing you can do. So remember, remember the forum? I do. Yeah, so the theater at the forum was always just basically
Starting point is 00:43:38 for like a 24 indie films and stuff. And you know, it was never going to be Scotiabank because that's the main place where people go to watch movies. So now they kind of- And gone a year, don't forget the forum. I'm recapping for everyone else. I'm doing the thing where you start a new series and the people that had known things forever
Starting point is 00:43:58 are saying it to a brand new audience that might not. Like specifically the part I bet you remember the forum, like yeah dude. Okay, well, when I bet you remember the forum like, yeah, dude. Okay. Well, when I saw hockey game in that fucking building, that before it got decadent. Okay. Okay. Non-muntry all people.
Starting point is 00:44:14 There is a place that's the forum that was a second theater from the main one that everyone would go to. And so anyways, they've revamped it into a order your food and get a big couch Seating experience and like the theater is like maybe 30 seats tops So you have a lot of room a lot of space and it reclines and it's a whole thing and I'm like, yay Finally, we get to do that. So it was really nice to when I got to do that in America once or twice and we get to do it now And yeah, 18 plus get the the kids out, fuck that. Get outta here, children.
Starting point is 00:44:48 You can order booze if you want and yeah, absolutely super 18 plus, you know, like even for a fucking Spider-Man movie, with no kids in it, could you imagine? That on its own is- I'm pretty soon I'm not gonna be able to make it. Yeah, well, you know, either way, like not having to deal with that is nice,
Starting point is 00:45:07 because I forgot what it was. I think it was like when I went to see a nope where it was like nearly empty theater, but the four kids that came in besides us just decided to be shits the whole time. And you're like, right. I'll never, I'll never forget me and Dan going to see clerks too at the fucking 1130 showing
Starting point is 00:45:30 and a woman had a one year old baby in the front row. Yeah. Like, lady, you have lost your mind. It was, and to be honest, like, we went on a Tuesday because it was the most convenient and I kind of forgot. And so that's like, oh yeah, you just invited hell into your, into your, your viewing experience. Cause generally Tuesdays, the GP Tuesday thing,
Starting point is 00:45:51 so a lot of people will grab the crying babies, all eight of them, and wheel them into the theater. And you know, it's the, yeah, anyway, it's the night when it's gonna be rough. And I remember in school always just being like, I can't fucking spider verse is already mixed poorly in terms of audio, by the way. You don't wanna see that with an annoying bad audience.
Starting point is 00:46:15 Hey, I saw, hey, I actually saw something, the audio director for that movie. It's like, hey, did you have trouble hearing so far? Yeah, yes, yes. Guess what? It's your theater's like, hey, did you have trouble hearing so first? Yeah, yes. Guess what? It's your theater's fault because I sent out a very detailed guide about what volume your theater should be set at to correctly hear the movie,
Starting point is 00:46:34 and a bunch of people just ignored it. And also, if your movie is wrong, go tell the theater tech and have them change it. Get up from the movie that you paid it for and waste your time and visible, you know, and go tell. Like, it's like, no, like, people going to see it or not shouldn't have to be the ones to fucking tell them to do it properly.
Starting point is 00:46:56 But yeah, as soon as it started, I was like, oh, this is, they warned me about this. The voices are mixed way lower. Or, at the very least, the people that are doing it, that are not that guy that are doing the wrong job. But I gotta say, I don't know if it's because I'm older, I don't think it is. I think it's because I think audio mixing for television and film has been objectively ruined, just completely worthless. One of the reasons that I'm not like, you know, I never went to a theater during COVID because objectively ruined, just completely worthless.
Starting point is 00:47:26 One of the reasons that I'm not like, you know, I never went to a theater during COVID because it was, did manga COVID, right? But even now, the appeal isn't there. I kind of don't wanna watch anything without subtitles anymore. I'm done, I am done. So every time over the past year, that I'm like, hey, let's watch it without every time over the past year, I have like,
Starting point is 00:47:45 hey, let's watch it without subtitles, get like 10 minutes, and then we have to pause it and rewind because we did. What did that say? Yeah, yeah, yeah, I know what you mean. Yeah, I get it. And so yeah, I'm kind of done. I don't require it. However, when in a lot of cases, when it's available, there's certain available, yeah, depends on the show, it depends on the way it's done. Because some shows and movies are more mumbly than others. You know, so there's times when it's like, is this a mumbly-ass show?
Starting point is 00:48:15 Put the fuck in the back and I wish I watched True Detective with fucking subtitles. Yeah. I had to fucking roll back a lot of fucking McConaughey dialogue. Oh, I was dreaming in the fucking future Louisiana. Last of this is a great show, but it's quite mumbly so far.
Starting point is 00:48:33 It's very much a subtitle's appreciated situation. Yeah, I wanna blame Christopher Nolan, specifically it is his fault because you remember when Dark Knight came out and the mixing was bad It came out that he did that on purpose It's like in real life you wouldn't be able to hear everything is saying. Oh my god Nolan Nolan mixes his movies bad on god damn it. I mean, I know that the iconic Inception Boi is like,
Starting point is 00:49:07 is like an achievement of sound design in film that has become a big deal, because it's like, it's louder, it's like 200% louder than anything else happening in any other theater, but like that idea of you're not supposed to hear every, let's insane! Apparently. Then why are we see strapping up
Starting point is 00:49:26 A boom like and having a dude hold his arm out for it I I did not see Dunmer done Kirk or interstellar apparently those movies are like bordering on Unlistenable without subtitles. It's just interstellar bleeds the fucking music in way loud Yeah It's just interstellar bleeds the fucking music in way loud. Yeah. And yeah, I haven't seen Tenet, but like, it's definitely,
Starting point is 00:49:51 now that it's pointed out, it's definitely a thing. Jesus Christ. I'm gonna go with chat pointing out that, yeah, Bane delivers a speech to a full stadium that no one can understand. Do you remember that? I do, and I don't know what he was saying. But I'm like, oh man, Bane says a bunch of cool shit. that no one can understand. Do you remember that? I do and I don't know what he was saying.
Starting point is 00:50:05 But I'm like, oh man, Vayne says a bunch of cool shit. Yeah, I'm like, I bet you this is iconic, but I don't know. I can't tell. I do not remember what he says. Absolutely. Hold that thought.
Starting point is 00:50:17 I gotta take a quick break. I gotta help out with something. There be. All right. Yeah. So, fucking movies. All right Yeah, so Fucking movies why even bother? Why even bother with movies?
Starting point is 00:50:31 That's why we don't know that's why we play video games Yeah, cuz video games aren't embarrassing fucking messes either definitely not never So I played a couple of video games this week tell me about your couple of video games this week. Tell me about your couple of video games this week. Yeah. So notable, I guess, off the bat was this week was the first inaugural local Street Fighter 6 tournament. Street Fighter 6! Yeah! So got to go and check that out. And side note to the side note, it was kind of interesting because this is an event that was like, I think like the first thing, big thing I've gone to,
Starting point is 00:51:16 I guess, post program and seeing lots of people and everyone's like, oh shit, yo, I didn't recognize you and stuff, and that feels good. And that's great, I love that. That's a nice little like, hey, reveal of sorts, you know? But I observed something interesting psychologically, I suppose, because I'm always like taking a step back
Starting point is 00:51:40 for myself as often as I can to think about things. This is an interesting thing. So the way I've always looked at myself has been the visual of my generally overweight out of shape body. Hold on a second. When you were just taking a second to think, were you doing a Naruto Jutsu with your hair? I was not doing a Naruto Jutsu. I was pointing like this. I was pointing like this.
Starting point is 00:52:05 I was pointing a gun. Pugh. So the way I've always perceived myself has been the general overweight shape that I've had for most of my life. And now that is changing. So when I look in the mirror, I see a smaller shape.
Starting point is 00:52:24 And there's a moment of, whoa, that's different from what I'm conditioned So when I look in the mirror, I see a smaller shape and There's a moment of whoa that's different from what I'm conditioned to seeing for 30 plus years holy shit, right that effect bleeds off And fades and fades and fades until like as of like a day or two ago I looked looked and I was like, okay, not only does that moment not exist anymore, now I'm back to seeing it and I can see the part where my brain goes, oh yeah, you still got that chubby, like, oh, you're, that's not correct, you know?
Starting point is 00:52:55 And I'm like, oh wow, already, my brain has gotten used to what I'm seeing and it's starting to go back to default which is you don't like what you see. And I'm like and it's starting to go back to default, which is you don't like what you see. And I'm like, that's fucked up brain. That's insane that it's been like literally like days and you're already trying to run that game on me. That's why when you go to the gym, you got to tell everybody you see they look huge, bro. It's crazy. It's crazy how like I'm like I like I saw that and I like that I'm stepping back from that moment of like huh So this you not even that impressed anymore. You're already like yeah, but look at that fucked up shit right look at that
Starting point is 00:53:37 That's not great, you know, and you're like ooh This is how it starts and goes down a dark path for if people, if you don't catch that, I think, you can just lean really hard into it. You have to catch that shit, you know, especially when it's like literally something drastic has occurred. You fucking idiot. What are you talking about? That's a completely irrational thought.
Starting point is 00:54:01 What are you doing, you know? Like, like the body dysmorphias tend to function along gendered lines, right? So the one you're describing tends to happen more with like young women. But like say you were hitting the gym and your arms were getting like nice and swollen, right? In your plateau stage, your arms would now set
Starting point is 00:54:23 to tiniest fuck. And then, okay, well, I gotta go harder and get bigger, bigger. And then eventually you hit the dysmorphia and they're like, well, I guess I got to get the synth all a little bit. I got to get the synth all. Let's get those needles going. Let's get the fucking liquid going. And it's not even steroids. It's literally just like salt water to make my muscles look big Big and then now I'm bubble man now. I'm just marshmallow man What happened to Luke? Yes, that's how it got started That's why his arms look like that
Starting point is 00:54:58 Yeah, no, it was it was just an interesting little thing. I was like oh oh, how fast that happens. That's super unhealthy. Gotta fucking check that shit immediately. But no, so anyways, fucking the first Street Fighter 6 local event, the inaugural tournament happened. And it was so cool. It was like basically a free tournament. So free sign up, free entry, free everything, and the winner got that $1,000 pop bonus.
Starting point is 00:55:29 So it was just a hype for the new game, hype for the new venue, and like, yeah, shout outs to the organizers, the Montreal Gaming Center, Z, the organizer, and the sponsorship money came from Northern Arena, they're doing some really cool shit. And they had a really great venue that was like, used to be a bar, used to be a club, kind of fun lights, like text setup, little,
Starting point is 00:55:53 just cool overall energy to just walking around and playing games on the main stage. And everything you'd want, right off of St. Catharine as well, so really central location, easy to get to, and it was just great to see people in person, and like walking in and seeing the locals and all that shit happening, I was like, oh man, God, I fucking missed this, you know, it was a, yeah, there was definitely like an emotional like shit. I needed I needed this in my life a little bit. It's been too long Just not old faces new faces people coming out and essentially just being like hey
Starting point is 00:56:32 I learned how to you know do a combo or two I'm on modern, but let me come take a crack at that one K You know people a lot of us a lot of new faces came out and One K, you know people a lot of us a lot of new faces came out and Yeah, man, it was it was it was just awesome. It was awesome to see old and new generations coming together and people very excited And a lot of the people that we've been hearing from recently that have been like oh my god I didn't know that I could like fighting games even because I felt prohibited from it You know and stuff like a lot of that energy as well shout-outs to the commander Stephanie Sterling because I felt prohibited from it. You know, and stuff like a lot of that energy as well. Shout-outs to the Commander Stephanie Sterling episode
Starting point is 00:57:09 from a bit earlier, reviewing Street Fighter 6 and basically going like, yep, couldn't play Street Fighter at all until now. Thanks, Modern Mode, I can actually have fun, you know? And it's like, that's great. That's awesome. So the event went really good. Reggie entered, I entered.
Starting point is 00:57:31 I can say that we did not walk home embarrassed or upset. I felt all right about the general progression of things. Were you free or not free? I got top 16. I'm not going to complain about that. I Can't complain about top 16 Reggie also got top 16 and So like we both made it past now before I have to ask yes, this is really important Were there 16 people in the tournament there were over a hundred people in the tournament.
Starting point is 00:58:06 Okay. Got a check. It was the fullest of full brackets. It was, yes. I mean, free, you know, like, yeah, I was not free. I made it out of pools. I made it to top 32. I won my matches.
Starting point is 00:58:22 I made it to top 16. I fought some very good players and I did not. In the matches that the, in the matches that mattered, I played extremely like cleanly and I have no regrets about them. In the matches that I won, I fucked up and dropped a couple things, but at least I kind of brought it back around.
Starting point is 00:58:45 But like, when it mattered, I like, I'm like, nope, I just got outplayed and that's okay, you know? So, yeah, and similar thing for Reggie. Like, we literally actually got the exact same placement, funny enough. So, yeah, and then that made way for us to be able to jump on commentary and do You know the top eight
Starting point is 00:59:08 For the for the stream and so that was a lot of fun as well because having that a chance to do commentary in a bit And you know a lot of that just comes right back and the vibe that all of that just you know I wanted all of that it was it was a great like first experience for this game And yeah, just also like the controller diversity, you know, you're seeing these days, like people are playing on anything and everything, dude. It doesn't matter anymore. Like, there are sticks, pads, lever lists, fucking, just, keyboards, like everything. Everything is coming out, and it doesn't matter because the game is just like, yeah, plug it in, let's go.
Starting point is 00:59:44 I don't care. What do you want to you want to use mouse go for it, you know um I played my marissa definitely um And your your goal with marissa. Yeah, well right now the that's that's that's that's that's where the work is Blanca's gonna take a little bit more lab time. It's gonna take a super good Blanca is really really fucked fucked in how he mixes you up, but it takes a ton of
Starting point is 01:00:11 preparation to get that shit together and to do it properly. I've never hated Blanca more. His hop and his command grab. I yeah, on reality. Yeah, you and everybody else the world the world can currently not see it Everybody is unable to be like I have a command grab there. It is again, right thing is it's funny enough because he's like the second least picked character Right right underneath Dalsam. So you're not gonna get a ton of blankas out there to in the wild in general I fight like one a day. Yeah, but he's still tricky. The thing is, is to get those tricks going on you, you've got to, well, there's two things.
Starting point is 01:00:56 One, there's the part where he lands it, you have to get past the gimmicky parts, right? So Blank has always been this thing where you can do hops, you can do the command throw, you can do the gimmicky parts, right? So Blank has always been this thing where you can do hops, you can do the command throw, you can do the gimmicky things, and a lot of that stuff is really, really not real. And once you know how to deal with them, then he has his force to be more honest, and then that's where the player has to shine.
Starting point is 01:01:19 Where it's like- There's a fun bit happening that you get to see with Blanca and I Honda specifically and maybe guile With three fighter six with like new people where it's like Sonic booms are coming out or a headbutt is coming out or block a ball full-screen block a ball is coming out and the discovery of like This character is just gonna do this forever until you stop them. Until you stop them. Yeah. Figure it out. And figure it out. Now we're die.
Starting point is 01:01:47 So it's a horizontal version of that I'm gonna keep jumping on you because if you don't stop me from jumping on you, then I have no reason to not do it, right? But it's happening horizontally now. And yeah, you're forced to figure it out, as they say. I remember I was playing Gief and Blockah hit me with a blockable and I blocked it because I'm like, yeah, I'm blocka, blockable full screen. And then he fucking went three quarters of the screen back to where he started. I'm like, what the fuck am I supposed to do it is shit.
Starting point is 01:02:18 So I figured it out, but still, like God damn. It's a knowledge check, right? It's what knowledge check, right? It's that is what it is. And depending on whether you lab it or not, or you have ideas. So if you don't lab it, but you're just a fucking amazing thinker, you can on the fly come up with solutions to things
Starting point is 01:02:41 and possibly even fucking implement them. For example, I've seen Ahonda flying across the screen get RSPD because that's possible. I saw a video of like JP can do his air grab, lock up balls and headbutts for free. I'm like, oh, air throws. Anybody can do that air grab, lock up balls and head butts for free. I'm like, oh, that means anybody can do that. Air throw is absolutely, yep. I fought some online Hondas that were just doing the, do you know how to deal with head butts and butt slams? And it's like, if you don't, you're just gonna die
Starting point is 01:03:17 and it's gonna feel terrible. Or are you gonna go and figure out what the stupid fuck is happening? And turns out there's a couple of angles you can use if he jumps back or if he does the butt slam at you, at least with Marissa. You can jump back in the air and like target combo him. In some cases you can put the shield up and gladiate through. You can scoot him past a bunch of that stuff.
Starting point is 01:03:42 So there's answers, you just have to go fucking figure it out. And thankfully there's a little option right after you play a match and rank that says like train against your opponent's character, you know? So, you know, hey, before we move on, I really wanna point something out, I'm spilling about modern mode. Modern mode, because we've talked about it a lot, right?
Starting point is 01:03:59 How good is for new people? One of the people who watches our show kind of free or eerie, they have a YouTube channel called The Den of Sin that they just put up their street fighter videos on. They did a breakdown of like the damage scaling properties on modern mode. Modern mode is way, way better than I thought it was, like numbers wise. Yes. Like the damage nerf on modern buttons? Yeah, it's not buttons.
Starting point is 01:04:35 It's only the special. Exactly, there's a misconception going around that, I guess I'm repeating this for the like maybe the fourth or fifth time now, because I have to clarify it, there's a misconception going around that modern mode makes you weaker and across the board and that you're getting 80% damage out,
Starting point is 01:04:53 and that's not the case. It's only 80% on the special button shortcuts that you press. So the reason why is because I believe in the beta modern mode did have scaling on some of the auto combos and it did have scaling on some of the super cool stuff. Okay, so there's some cross wires that I see. And then they buffed it. Yeah, no.
Starting point is 01:05:14 The only time you lose damage is if you use the shortcut button to do something. If you like even if the special is part of the auto combo, it doesn't scale different. If you do the inputs, if you press those buttons, if you press your ABC button instead of the auto combo, it doesn't scale different. If you do the inputs, if you press those buttons, if you press your ABC button instead of the punches and kicks, all of that's normal. Yep. So, you know, and that makes sense because really those are the advantage is the one button special, right? The benefit of not having to do an input to get something out is that you can do it instantly. So that's where the damage nerves comes in. If you just put heavy punch on C, that doesn't, there's no reason to nerf that.
Starting point is 01:05:53 It's the same thing. It's the button. It's just in a different place, you know? It's fascinating because what's kind of free at Den of Sin. It's a good little YouTube channel. You should check it out. Discovered is that doing the combos manually, but using the shortcut button is the worst way possible.
Starting point is 01:06:13 You're better off doing a full auto combo. It has no scaling applied, but if you do the full combo manually, like for real, with the shortcut on the special, that's when scaling kicks in super hard. Oh, the moment you switch to the shortcut special. Yeah, so yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. If the combo is like light punch, light punch, light punch, and then like, shore you or whatever, and you auto-combo that out, no scaling. Oh, right. But if you do manual light punch, manual light
Starting point is 01:06:42 punch, manual light punch, and then use the special input for the, sorry you. You get the scale on that. Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah. So it's like, no, use the God damn auto combo button. If you're doing that exact string, right? Yeah, that's the string you want. So once you get a little bit more comfortable, what the next step is is starting out with one button that is a like a manual button and then holding the combo button
Starting point is 01:07:06 to bring out something that can only be used as a part of the combo string. So that got a little complicated, let me explain. With Luke, you can do his standing heavy punch just by pressing C, but to do his, not his crouching heavy, to do, yeah, to do, I think it's as crouching heavy You have to hold combo starter button
Starting point is 01:07:29 So yeah, you end up like pressing that pressing C and then holding combo button and pressing C again to do the second part releasing it and then doing the rest of the combo So there's little moments where you have to know when to hold the combo button and release to get it like a the buttons into buttons Part of the combo down, but then get it like a the buttons into buttons part of the combo down But then when it comes to the big special lender Yeah, you're definitely gonna get more damage by not doing the the shortcut Like it makes me it has re Invigorated me in terms of like okay, there's characters. I don't want to play. I do not know how to play Cammy
Starting point is 01:07:59 Mm-hmm. Don't know Yeah, I'm if I want to play Cammy I'm to hop on Modern Cammy because like, yeah, I'm not going to miss the four normals that I'm missing. Yeah. And that will allow me to carry myself up to a point of expertise where I can then switch to classic. That's it. And all it does is it'll encourage you to just learn the, to try out the input manually for the stuff that you're not used to and
Starting point is 01:08:27 then like get that damage or so reward. There was a top eight auto combo, rather, a modern mode can at the tournament. And certain characters are going to be better than others. Like Geef loses a lot on modern, right? He loses a lot and it sucks. But I don't know if it's worth it because like being able to do the one button instantaneously. Walking seven toy. N-S-P-D.
Starting point is 01:08:54 Yep. The air S-P-D specifically, on reaction to any jump in is unbelievable. Mm-hmm. Like that might be better than all of the lost world. That you lose. That you lose. Yeah, so modern Geef was already a like night,
Starting point is 01:09:12 like people were like, oh, that's a terrifying prospect because he gained so much from it, right? The idea of the SPD, the 720, all of that being now, like just at the speed of thought, you know, because it always is suppose like when you get good enough everything is at the speed of thought, but there is always that little extra second of brain, you know, and like now it can actually be like, oh he's in the air, I can now let's go for it. Okay, there it is, you know. So yeah, anyways, all that to say,
Starting point is 01:09:46 there was a modern mode Ken, shout out to Kyrpster, who made it to Top 8, and was basically, I was like, yeah, you didn't find it kind of weird based on your history with the game, and he's like, I've never had any attachment to Ken. I've never played Ken. This is my first time playing Ken, so I don't give a fuck. I had nothing to delete when it came to learning this character. So it's like, that's exactly it, you know.
Starting point is 01:10:10 Yeah, so anyways, that's kind of how the tournament went. I saw Reggie said there I wasn't happy with my placement. Well, you know, you can't be happy with your placement. You want to always want to strive to get better. And but one person gets to be happy with their place. It's just like, yeah, I'm more just like, I did not feel upset walking away from that, which is something I felt walking away from a lot of tournaments where I'm like upset at myself for not pulling out something that I needed to or dropping this or doing that.
Starting point is 01:10:42 I'm like, I felt I played all right, but the knowledge check needs to continue I got to say so now that now that big turnie turnie people are playing a lot of street fighter I'm seeing on social media my favorite part of a new fighting game. This is sarcasm People who are way better than me Just being sad about shit that no one cares about. So I don't even remember their names because I didn't recognize them,
Starting point is 01:11:13 but you do the thing where I'm like, this is kinda what the fuck he's talking about. And then I click on their Twitch channel and like they're hanging out at Diamond Five or Master. Like, okay, they clearly know what the fuck they're talking about. But they're just like, man, why would you ever play this character, character this character when camey or or so and so can just do it for way better It's just it makes me so upset
Starting point is 01:11:34 Street Fighter 6 is too hard. I'm not having fun. It's I'm like Fucking Jesus high level high level salt is still salt nonetheless Jesus high level high level salt is still salt nonetheless That's been like it doesn't go away. No, that's been a thing for a very long time and you can see it in a whole lot of players And it follows them from game to game There's people that are just like that no matter how like good they are and like the reflection in how they deal with frustration is just gonna be the salty Attitude it's and in a lot of cases. It's like the tech isn't there yet the knowledge isn't there yet We're still too soon. It's still too early and this person's very very good. However
Starting point is 01:12:16 If you look at their history across every other game, it's always that so You're not gonna see it any different even if the game itself is you know different. It's you know it's this it's this emotion of seeing people like the game has been out for two weeks right and you're watching it and it's like are you able to be happy about this thing like the the the mentality of like I am not having fun unless I am winning, like applies all the way up, all the way up to the top of the chain. So what you would hear is,
Starting point is 01:12:58 as a counter argument, it would be Michael Jordan sitting there looking at the iPad, going, I took it personally because I had to take it personally because if I didn't, then I wouldn't have enough in the fire in me to win and to be the goat. You know, and there's a little bit of that kind of attitude that comes out where it's like, no, no, you've got to be, you've got to stay hungry to win and whatever that means, if you thrive in the toxicity
Starting point is 01:13:25 of it, then you adopt that, and that becomes your way forward. Yeah, my favorite one is the one that I saw today, which is like spent two weeks with the games. Street Fighter 6 is just, it's too hard. It's too hard, I'm having to think too much. It's not fun. And I'm like, this is a person that would beat my ass
Starting point is 01:13:42 into the dirt in like two seconds. Yeah, it's more of a reflection of like, you know, the top tier club and kind of being in that. Are you in the running for a million dollars? Are you mentally and emotionally prepared for not making that million dollars? You know, like everything that that's gonna do to people is gonna be, it's gonna emotionally fuck people up, you know, and like the idea and the desire, especially from people, like if there's a, the fact that there's a million dollars on the line
Starting point is 01:14:15 means if you play fighting games at a competitive level, no matter which game it is, you should be playing this one because you're probably good enough to transfer your skills, right? It just makes sense. It just makes sense. Your fundamentals are gonna apply across everything. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:14:27 So, Sonic Fox went from a moral combat to Dragon Ball, and those are wildly different. Yeah, so, you know, and so if it clicks, it clicks and that's kind of how it goes, but no, but yeah, demeanor is demeanor. There's not much you can, you know, that's just gonna be the way it is. And there's also like, how do I put it?
Starting point is 01:14:48 There's a thing that I see too that happens at, at, at turnies with certain types of players where, um, they're very good, but they're like not fans of fighting games or the game per se, it's kind of like you have the skills and like the skills allow you to essentially like, um, I mean if you win you talk that shit, right? You flex, you make money, it's a hype thing, you get to blow it all up, but like you're not like really enjoying the video game. You know, it's kind of more like, we would go to the arcades, we'd put our quarter up, and then you'd pass, you'd kill some time doing this activity, but it could have been poker cards, it could have been Roland dice, you know.
Starting point is 01:15:37 And there's a little bit of that, right? And for some of those people, you'll see sometimes where it feels like work, it doesn't feel like fun, you know? And they're putting in the time time and they're trying to get better and then they do get amazing But ultimately it's like yeah, this isn't this is not fun for me. This is work. This is just you know The hours clocking in out right the can't lean back in their chair and giggle while they say I'm using woke controls and I'm always reminded of that interview with Tomo who talked about, you know, being like the first Street Fighter II champion in America
Starting point is 01:16:14 and how very, very, very quickly winning went from being a celebrated good feeling to becoming a requisite for feeling normal. And what's funny, that sounds exactly what you were talking about looking in the mirror. Yeah, actually, that's a human thing, right? And Tomo walked away from Street Fighter, like back to Street Fighter 2, back when he was kind of like, yep, I would enter a tournament. And if I won, I felt no joy.
Starting point is 01:16:51 I simply felt relief that I, it's default. I'm relieved at it being the way it should be, which is I should always win. And then the moment a loss happens, you can't imagine how devastating, you know? It's a fucked up thing. And in high school with my exams, or like I got 95 or 100 on exam,
Starting point is 01:17:15 like you know, teacher or my mom would be like, hey you did great. I'm like, yeah. That's what you're supposed to get on the exam. Yep, you're supposed to know the answer to every question. I've told this one. I would bomb like one a year, and I would be inconsolable. I'm like, I'm so fucking stupid.
Starting point is 01:17:32 What the fuck? Spullshit. This doesn't apply to every one of the salty ass people that you're describing and such. However, zooming out on this, you wanna talk about school, there's the story I remember reading years ago about how the difference between praising kids for hard work versus praising kids for being smart is in the they had different groups and the results were essentially kids who were praised
Starting point is 01:17:56 for being smart when they got presented with work that was too hard for them. They gave up nearly immediately because their expectation was that their innate talent would prepare them to handle it, whereas kids who were praised for working hard would actually sit there and keep at it and would not give up as easily. And in some cases figure it out, but those that didn't were like, yeah, I tried, I couldn't, you know, but they put more time in and were more successful on average because more people step in more time because they cherish the work aspect as opposed to the, like, I'm just supposed to get this win. You know what?
Starting point is 01:18:32 You know what the funniest thing is, dude? I've read that study and I've thought about it a lot over the years and I look back to myself as a little baby child and how there was no, like, my personality is so like internally perfectionist toxic whatever you want to call it, that there was no solution to that for like educators and like my parents or whatever, because I remember being told, hey, you're really smart. And I go, no, everyone's just stupid. Okay, that's not the correct response to deal with that or hey, we know you worked really hard on it. Good job.
Starting point is 01:19:08 I shouldn't have had to work hard on it. It should have been easy. Was the actual response and like every every variation just led to I should have Cake walked this Because it's easy and I'm smart and anything other than that is bad I mean it happens often enough that I was told I was smart as a kid and I was given that Very early and then there was demonstrable proof because I skipped a grade so that I was like, oh well there's the proof of it. Therefore I should never have to struggle. So then the moment I encounter a struggle it feels utterly fucking gut-read. Oh wait did I just become stupid? Am I stupid now? But
Starting point is 01:19:57 what happened to the kid that skipped the grade though? They meant that I was so far ahead no no dude not at all you know so that's shit we'll fucking haunt you and like no one knows back in the day that that's what they're doing they're just making the kid feel good by saying they're smart you know that's all you're trying that's all they're trying to do but these are the effects that you find out after the fact so anyway the expectation that the wind will follow because this is where I'm at, you know, is quite interesting. I remember, too, to take it back to the fucking salt in the Street Fighter. For the longest while, you know, being the blank of player, of course, it's always like, oh God,
Starting point is 01:20:34 fucking woolly, Harry comes, you know, like just with his neutral skip and his complete lack of fundamentals, which to be fair, Reggie has exposed quite a bit of my, my like fundamental street fighter knowledge lacking. It's not like it hasn't been, and I'm working on it. But there was a lot of times back in the day where it'd be like, whatever you're free to this, you're free to that. And it would lead to, there was a point where,
Starting point is 01:21:02 I remember there was like a money match for over ego that we had with someone in the, the local community. And we did like a first to Ted or whatever. And it was a better player for sure. And like in the end, I totally lost. But I just remember that like when I won the few that I won and then at the end of it, the look of sweat and panic and fear that was coming from my opponent was so much more aggressive than like I was much more laid back about it like hey let's see what I can do. Let me just disrupt the situation a little bit and try for it. And they were way more worried because the pride on the line of losing to fucking wooly the blank up player was so embarrassing and that stain could not be a thing
Starting point is 01:21:50 that they could wash off. And I just remember literally sweat pouring off his face, you know, and then it was at the end, it was like, okay, well, that's what happened. I was like, wow, that's what it is. That's where the mindset is, you know. I'm just pushing buttons, man. It's crazy. It was crazy. And I I'm sure I had a variation of this emotion this morning
Starting point is 01:22:10 Mm-hmm when I was playing like I was fucking around like you know what I so I put a lot of work in a Geek and I put a lot of work in a Jamie, but I've kind of stalled out at like plat one plat two plat three with them I'm happy with that but like I'll play somebody else, right I picked up Gile and I don't know how to do a goddamn thing with Gile. I don't know nothing. I didn't do his character guide. I don't know his target combos. And I just sailed Into the top of gold And I'm like getting like 11 game win streaks And I'm like, I don't think I'm gonna stay with Gile But now when I go back to Jamie Or Geef
Starting point is 01:22:55 And fight Gile I'm gonna be sitting there on this fucking character Is so fucking free This is this bullshit You don't even need to know how to play the game to fucking win with this fucking, this is this bullshit. As a character loyalist that has died with my picks,
Starting point is 01:23:14 and I'm trying to not do that, I can tell you that the perspective you get jumping around the cast shows you truly what your character is. And you get to find out like, oh, you just don't get to do this thing that others get to do. Or you do get to do something that others can't. And like what the game is to a lot of people
Starting point is 01:23:35 is not what it is for you. And like you need that perspective, you know? I think I like. I mean, literally like the idea of like early on, like having a clean anti-air and a clean, like, zoning tool means that a thing that a lot of people struggle with at the beginning is going to not be a problem for you. So when I'm fucking around with Luke, it's like, yep, the base, the, the, the, the, the foot-season stuff that we'll figure out later.
Starting point is 01:24:06 For now, I'm throwing a sandblast out and if you jump in on me, I got a DP and I just don't have to think about it, you know? I don't need to learn this foot sees things. And, and, and like, you know, and, and again, the term neutral skip comes to mind because it's like, or knowledge checking even where it's just like, look, until the person you're fighting has bothered to learn what your guys able to get around your bullshit, you're just gonna win, you know, and Honda is currently like that. Like there's a lot of people that don't know what to do about Honda, and I mean Honda does have some shit. That's really good. So you can just do those two moves and beat a fuck ton of people until you hit the people that are like,
Starting point is 01:24:45 actually I'm gonna go figure this out. So I'm in a place now where I don't like JP. I want him gone. But that's where I'm at, like for JP. I have yet to actually play one button of JP myself. I feel like if I play JP for one match, I will hate Street Fighter. I feel like, so like it's, it's, I'm so angry from the other side. Yeah. But if I get a hold of that character and be like,
Starting point is 01:25:26 wow, the power is in my hands. This feels really good and easy. I'm gonna be so mad. This is why though, like there's always two facets of the conversation. And like the important part is, is like, do you care, like does it matter to you to like get better or are you just looking for the fun, right?
Starting point is 01:25:47 Because if you are just looking for the fun and you pick that JP and you start doing bullshit and filling the screen up with garbage and the pollution overwhelms everybody, you're gonna be like, well, that's the way the fucking cookie crumbles. I love this. It's awesome. Feels good to be me, right? But if you do then pick the character and then you learn how he works you then learn what his weaknesses are and You learn how to get around a bunch of them and you go oh there's cracks all over JP is very very good at what he does, but there's cracks that you can exploit. And if you're doing those things,
Starting point is 01:26:32 you can make his life a lot harder, you know? And it's like, what's you know about those? It suddenly starts to look a little more normal, right? It starts to be like, okay, this match can go either way now, because this JP is either, like there'll be a lot of JP's for example, that are like really good at zoning you out,
Starting point is 01:26:54 but they haven't practiced what to do up close, except for doing the amnesia, their OD reversal, right? And then there's like, or holding up to just jump out of it, because they're like, I don't know how to fucking do anything here. Get away from me. And once you see like the like the level of confidence go from supremely confident at the full screen distance to extremely unconfident up close, you can use that fear to like dominate
Starting point is 01:27:18 and like steam roll into a win, you know. But it's, before you hit that point of seeing those things, it's gonna feel like there's nothing you can do to deal with any of it. It's gonna feel whole- It's really fascinating seeing these characters exist in a huge player base. The 356 is a big, it's crazy how many people are playing,
Starting point is 01:27:36 how many people you're exposed to, and you get to see like, it's not character balance, right? Like, some characters are really good and some characters are maybe not as good, right? But you're getting to see like what characters fly past, what percentage of players, like JP's nonsense? I'm pretty good and his shit just, oh, like it makes me mad and it breaks my mind.
Starting point is 01:28:03 I have to play a completely different game. And it's not free, but it's harder than maybe it is. Does that make sense? Yes, because that's a matchup thing as well. That's what Geef has to struggle with, you know? Right. Yeah. And then you get to see like,
Starting point is 01:28:17 Gile also lives in that same place. Like a lot of people don't know how to deal with a lot of projectiles. Yeah, like a lot. Another way of kind of looking at it is like, some characters dominate the space of the match by default until you interrupt them, right? Like Sonic Boom Flashkick,
Starting point is 01:28:41 like dominates the space and you have to find a way around those things because by default it is a perfect defense and offense, right? It is a wall that is impenetrable, but it's not impenetrable, right? It's time limited and it's charge limited. So there are moments, for example, where you're like, oh, he walked forward, he doesn't have a sonic boom. Now, now, now, now. Okay, he's got it back
Starting point is 01:29:05 Right, but if you're not thinking about Giles walking You're not thinking about when he has a sonic boom ready to go You're not thinking about whether he's crouching or not then you're just trying to run your game and ignoring his movements You're not thinking about whether or not he has that ability to stop you right the goal there is to pay attention to the way He moves and that gives you a clue when it's safe to a Procher not you know it's not always impossible to get in it's only impossible when he has his charge you know it this and this fucking amazing video game takes that which is Street Fighter fucking to like Street Fighter 2 review versus versus Kyle like and it puts that across the board and everything and there's little bits and pieces or every
Starting point is 01:29:52 micro in Moment of of these though the way that the Moves interact with each other will have a little thing where it's like if you used like this strength little thing where it's like if you used like this strength the problem is after you block it, but if you used a different button the problem is beforehand and the combo looks almost the same. The only thing is the strength of the attack which means you need to know whether the person you're fighting likes to use A or B or C you know. So like an example of this is there was a great video from this fucking morning where Big Bird, a great Marissa player, or not not Big Bird, someone else showed
Starting point is 01:30:30 a video of Marissa doing her medium punch, medium punch, and then the Superman punch, right? Love to do that. Good string. And there's a gap where after the two medium punches, she flies in and then, you know, usually if you block that then she gets to act again. Well jury can do her level one super right when she's in midair and be like, nope, fuck you, blah blah blah blah blah, blows it up, right? And you're like, oh, yeah, shit. Okay, so if I'm just mindlessly playing Marissa and I just keep doing that, a jury player
Starting point is 01:31:02 can know to always super me right at the end of that and then Big Bird just posted Here's what happens when you do the same combo, but I do the light Superman punch instead and it's like somehow Immediately just dex fucking jury in the face blows up the super we move on so it's like aha If I change which button it means it's not a free solution. It means this whole thing is different. And it comes down to whether the player is choosing to go that way or not. You know?
Starting point is 01:31:31 And if, and, and like that creates a whole other series of thoughts, you have to consider as like, well, now which one is he going to go for? Right? It's so awesome that this happens in this game. Okay. I was losing some space for any thoughts that you had there, but the tournament JP, yeah, the tournament overall, uh, uh, what went really well and a JP one flux waves. Oh, shocking. Painted, took that. He won the tournament.
Starting point is 01:31:58 Took that cast. Who could have thought? I mean, it was the only JP in top eight, though, for that matter. So to be fair, there was one. He's the one and he's like that good. He's fucking good. But I mean when JP was not a thing, flux was still dominating with Armica, you know, it's refiner five and shit. So the player is, you know, you can't nerf the player. At the end of the day, that being said, um, it was awesome to see as well because, you know, we've got, yeah, matchups you don't see a lot online as well. Like, you're not going to find a lot of Dalsams.
Starting point is 01:32:34 He's the least picked character in the game. I fought like three Dalsams in the entire, like, 85, 90 hours I've played. But at this, but, um, snafu, aka R.D.T., the local, uh, Dalsam player from Montreal has been putting in work with him and you get to see some cool shit that you wouldn't really get to see in the wild, you know, and that was fun to see like, oh, when Dalsam starts going, this is what it looks like, you know, and he can fuck you up and further more because you haven't fought a lot of them. You probably haven't seen this shit, you know, the power of the unknown character, right? Gamer B picks Adon, shows up and fucking people go,
Starting point is 01:33:09 who? This is a character in the game? What? Jaguar kick. You know, so this character before. Yeah, so that's, that's always fun. But anyways, man, um, great event, great tournament, lots of fun. And, uh, yeah, I'm like, okay, I see what I need to improve. I already learned a couple things immediately after the match. I mean, the other match of the two players that I lost to, they're very good. I sat down with one of them afterwards. We did a little bit of a couple of sets and I've practiced the stuff that I messed up. And we actually learned a couple things together like just They're in the venue right after the the tournament and it's like that's the ideal thing, right?
Starting point is 01:33:52 Oh, fuck I could have gone further, but this was the wall Let's sit down and immediately try to solve that and then you do and you go Oh, if I did this then next time great. problem, solution, I leave that night a better player. You know? It's an ideal way for things to go. So yeah, I'm going to be supporting the Montreal Gaming Center as best I can. If you're in the city and you want to get games in, you know, that's the place to do it. And if you came out and I saw you, shout outs, lots of cool people said, what's up? That were like, yeah, people that played
Starting point is 01:34:27 from what they got in from watching and getting to fighting games and far-knife as to cuffs and stuff. So yeah, that's gonna be popping off soon. Something else that I did a little bit before that was very briefly. The summer I showed down, rollback beta, the second one was underway this weekend as well. How is it?
Starting point is 01:34:52 Well, I wanted to touch it to say that I did. I wanted to make sure that I, you know, could look at it and be like, all right, this is the state of affairs. And if we streamed it, the hour or so that we went for uh the matches were rough um it is not looking like the rollback implementation is good to go now uh what we had right off the bat we had heard that the first blade beta was really really bad tons of draw rollbacks tons of weird graphical issues and such. In our, then we got the patch that came for beta 2. Every match had particle effects, just flashing
Starting point is 01:35:35 kind of like way out of place, too early or too late in some cases. We had definitely a couple of teleporting issues while playing against some rollbacks occurred and like we were having issues with people that were in Vermont So it's like whoa we're right next to each other this should not be an issue and fuck man It sucks, but like the the main thing of course is that the people making this in our code mistakes They did all the great rollback for previous SNK games including the last couple samshows that are not the new 3d one right and Those were easier to implement certainly because they were able to emulate things this time around They're going in and trying to get it working from the ground up in the the games net code itself and
Starting point is 01:36:20 Ultimately He still needs some time in the fucking oven. I saw they posted on Twitter about it and then I kind of sent them a little report on it. I was like, yep, had some issues. And then they rolled out another patch and they said things have gotten a lot better. So I haven't seen what they've done since. But they said that basically, it's also like, it's cost-in-cons costing considerable overhead to get like logs and stuff, so they're kind of asking for people to try out the new one if they can and see
Starting point is 01:36:51 if they're getting any better results. But yeah, man, it sucks. It sucks because like, I mentioned this many times in the past, like they can probably get it there, right? Cosmistics has done this in the past and I do have faith that they can get it to that state, but it's not there yet. And the newer the game, the harder it is to stick roll back in retroactively. And overall, it makes it even more of a problem when the company is stubborn about getting it in there to begin with.
Starting point is 01:37:21 You know? That's how my showdown has like the, it's like the poster child for like stupid internet like decisions in terms of its game. Like yeah, the delay was like really bad delay, fall of pie, like Stadia. Oh, it's like, and it gets worse dude. Then there was the part where your online ranking is tied to your local save file So if you go to your friend's house and log in on your account you start from scratch because it's not saved online So it's saved locally. You know what? It's extra bad. It's extra like depressing because like Good net plays a very important function of many fighting games
Starting point is 01:38:12 Yeah, I would say all fighting games But the fighting game Samurai showdown the one in which like a single counter hit can like out. Oh, yeah, oh, yeah Yeah, maybe that one's really important. It's insanely important. More than some of the others even. More than any of them. It is the most important for this game to never have a hiccup because of that exact like split second decision making. And then of course there's also the part where you can rematch someone forever in ranked mode, which means that it doesn't actually matter what the point is. Oh, the point. Oh, cool. And it's just, yeah, the video came out called
Starting point is 01:38:48 it deserved so much better because it is like the funnest when it's played locally offline in the circumstances that don't have any of this bullshit. It's such a fun game. I love it so much. Dear God, the online is some of the worst it's ever been, you know? They're trying though, and I hear the the thing like there's the part of me
Starting point is 01:39:06 That is really upset that they didn't do it to begin with and now we're have to now it has to struggle even harder And then there's the part of me that's like I can't believe they're even bothering because so many games Just don't even bother to go back and try right so I'm I have to remember the part where you're like, instead there's a part before this where you're like, give for the love of God will they put roll back in the thing I want and you're just begging for that. And then we now get to the part where they announce it
Starting point is 01:39:33 and you're like, yay, they're doing it. But they're doing it and it's not working yet, right? And that sucks and that feels bad. But you still have to remember that it is still, at least they're looking at it as opposed to not at all, you know? I totally get where you're coming from and it has this weird, like, has this weird reverse intensity because bad rollback is way worse than delay.
Starting point is 01:40:05 Bad rollback is the worst. It's like visually confusing, it's nonsensical, it's awful. I can say that as sad as it makes me, that like, you know, I were so close, but so far from this great game, having, you know, a way for people to fucking play it, and they made it 90% off on Steam, by the way. So it's on sale for nothing, as well, at the same time as this, and it's not the greatest way to fucking get people in when you're, you know, they run into these problems.
Starting point is 01:40:39 But, um, the fact that at the very least, again, I can go from, uh, this is a decision SNK made internally back in Japan and that's the end of that. You can yell into the void for eternity. No one cares. No one's listening. Versus, okay, code mystics, they're in the UK, they're working on this. They tweeted out that this is a new thing they're trying and then I replied to them and said, here's the problems I had and then they asked me, can you send us a copy of the video and what
Starting point is 01:41:11 build you were on and you know and like confirm it and I'm like, okay, yes, someone is here replying to me and asking for information like above the point. So I can talk to somebody that can try to fix the things that are not working right now. And that's overall a step towards productivity that is not the same as yelling infinitely across the Pacific Ocean. So God, I really hope they pull this out because yeah, man, I don't know that where I don't Sam show is not one
Starting point is 01:41:46 of these games where I would expect to hear an announcement that they're doing another one just out of nowhere you know it's always possible but I I don't think my heart my heart is expecting that but this is the state of it this is where it's at I'm I'm reporting it to let people know. Yeah so that's pretty much the deal. The only other bits I just want to remind people. Yeah, we'll get Woolie versus whatever coming your way soon or running into some issues with the YouTube bullshit system. So once those are ironed out, the episode will drop, but right now it's being a pain in the ass. The Mass Effect 2 run is nearing its completion, I hope. I believe we're past Citadel, so we should be on the final steps. You're like, yeah. And the only
Starting point is 01:42:37 thing I'll say at this point is just quite simply, I'd say 2, I meant three. Uh, the, the, the only thing I'll say at this point is it's, it's, it's, it's obvious, but just so stupid that like the amount of money that Cerberus has is equal to the amount of tension the game requires in any given scene in every, any given moment. So what are you talking about? So when you kind of end up walking out to the fucking Cerberus HQ and you deal with pussy and you can do all that bullshit and then you get your you're get a couple of like calls and scenes with Tim and it's like, hey, so remember the
Starting point is 01:43:23 giant fight at the end of Mass Effect 2 where it was like dude fucking salvage the stupid human Reaper T100 group it's good group we can use it to rule and be stronger and better than Reapers we can be humanity and then you're like nah bro that shit that shit's stupid. You're dumb. L.O.L. Lemau, hang up. Fuck you, Tim. And then, Tim's like, okay, well, that seemed like a big deal, but actually all that did was just stahl for time. Right. Really?
Starting point is 01:43:55 Basically what that call was did anyway. We salvage it anyway. So that call was actually like, hey yo, you're at the depth. Can you pick me up some smokes? Nah man, smoking's bad for you. You shouldn't smoke come on give me some smokes. No bro Well, fuck you then and Tim hangs up that so that's all over that game But it's funny that you've never brought up to me the worst one in that whole game by far It's pretty early, which is the fucking Reknight Queen. Oh, coming back.
Starting point is 01:44:28 You saved the Reknight Queen in the aspect one, right? Yeah. Do you want to know what happens if you did not save the Reknight Queen? Nothing. Well, that sequence still has to happen. So they throw in a line or two, like, Cerberus found a different ship that had a Racknike Queen on it, and they stole the Racknike Queen, and they put it in the spot. Oh, come on. So the sequence can happen. A different Racknike Queen just shows up instead. We just found a different one.
Starting point is 01:44:58 Ah! It's boarded, or whatever that dude's name is. It's, it's, yeah. Yeah, okay. Yeah, no. So stuff like that is why when we get, like, I don't if you remember a while ago, that I talked about how like,
Starting point is 01:45:18 I think the choices in Mass Effect were actually a mistake. Like, and it's because of stupid shit like that, where like they wanna have the sequence, but they gave you a choice before, so they're like, but the level still has to happen. Yeah. Oh, oh, oh. Can't make the important thing optional
Starting point is 01:45:39 unless it's pre-order DLC. Yeah. Yeah, no, so there's just that little bit where it's like, oh, this wasn't a drastic set, Cerberus back and help the galaxy versus like, you know, fucking enabling our doom. It's actually just, hey man, get me some smokes or I'll come out there and get up myself and that's gonna waste some time and I don't wanna do that, really, because I can do anything, actually. I have the money, I have infinity, I have whatever I need.
Starting point is 01:46:15 You know, and we could only give you one ship and like the money to like hire like 10 guys, but actually we have a standing army of like four million people and 10,000 ships. We have the ability to take over the citadel because we kind of needed it in the plot at this moment. Our power level is citadel every race of the council cannot handle
Starting point is 01:46:46 This this one cheeky boy and his group of fucking near-to-walls and it's like we're going back to mass spec one or like Cerberus was like four bases Running like little science experiment and the most annoying. And they killed one NPC and you're like, oh, you bastards. You know? Yeah. And it's actually the complete opposite of like, you know how the geth powered and scaled down? The geth power scaled down in the same way
Starting point is 01:47:17 that servers power scaled up. It's like the plot required this. So you cannot be what you set yourself up to be. We have to just buy into the idea that like you have fucking a replicator or just like something, you know, I don't know, I don't know what it is, but if you're buying into the idea that Cerberus on its own can take over the Citadel, you have to buy into the idea that he didn't need you to bring in that skeleton at any given point. He didn't need any of this.
Starting point is 01:47:44 This is all just theatrics way hold on a second if server is could have taken over the whole citadel then how come server is didn't do anything when the citadel was invaded by geth and reapers and that's picked one wouldn't they have not wouldn't they have been in a bad state if the world was a night if the galaxy was annihilatedated by, oh, I guess they knew you were going to handle it. No, they didn't have the investors at the time.
Starting point is 01:48:10 You see, the stock was too low. They didn't have the investors. See now with the power of the Masters Foundation behind them financially. Now that Tim has gotten an investment of Kenneth T's Like that. Yeah anyways So yeah, Mass Effect bullshit is gonna be wrapping up real soon I know I've been saying that for a while, but this time I actually mean it's a it's three games Yeah, I know but people are waiting on World Tour and as a mind
Starting point is 01:48:44 Understandably so and I'm getting I'm getting angry DMs from friends going Could you just fucking put that shit on hold and start and and strike while the iron taught idiot? You're at the finish line It is what it is So yes, that's going on and then lastly, I'm gonna be this weekend out in Philadelphia. I just a reminder I might have too many games. So if you're over there, come say what's up. Yeah, I'm gonna do a panel, probably jump up there with a eye patch wolf and I don't
Starting point is 01:49:19 know, maybe play some Street Fighter. I probably play some Street Fighter, so what? Come find me. Are you sure? I might play some Street Fighter in I probably play some street fighter. So what? Come find me. Are you sure? I might play some street fighter in Philadelphia. I don't know. We'll see what happens. At the very least, I'll try to go find David Hader and like, I don't know.
Starting point is 01:49:37 I don't know yet. Touch his hand. I just, I'll just stand next to him. Just be like, yeah. Breathe the, breathe the air. That's, that's, smells like Scotch and whiskey. Yeah. That's good stuff.
Starting point is 01:49:50 All right. That's me, Woolly Versus on Twitch and on YouTube. Woolly Wolves on Twitter. And if you participated in the little raffle we had on Twitter for a chance to win one of them Snack box micros with the woolly versus limited edition on it. Thank you To shout out to the winners. There's gonna be more so stay tuned Can I take a 30 second break to get some water a prop BRB? All right, how about you?
Starting point is 01:50:22 Well, I'm Pat and I had an event for a week So first of all the wife got me a bunch of shirts for Father's Day Alright, how about you? Well, I'm Pat and I had an intrepid week. So first of all, the wife got me a bunch of shirts for Father's Day. So very, very thankful to you, Paige, my darling wife. I'm wearing one right now. It's just says I can't read. Yeah. And I have two of these others that I have to show you all
Starting point is 01:50:44 because I'll describe it for the audio people because they're so stupid I'm in like my postmodern cringe dad phase My wife got me the CIA female body Come on Unironically Come on Ironically It doesn't say FBI No, it's a CIA it's a CIA inspector. Yeah, okay Good good shit, and she also caught me this one. Let me see if I can turn it around. It's a... How do I describe this? It's a... It's a bunch of airplanes and tanks blowing something up with the...
Starting point is 01:51:36 With peanuts on it that says not allergic to peanuts. Yeah, there's another one. There's a there's a blue e shirt like I think this red dad on it with the with the cartoon dog And then there's one I don't have with me on on hand right now that is Garfield like it's a blue shirt with Garfield the cat on it With the with the stylized Garfield text that says Neon Genesis Evangelion. Oh, that's great. That's great. That's great. For the rest of those, I can only assume you just type stupid fucking dad shirts into Amazon and see what happens. Yeah, well, yeah, I'm regardless. I love my wife. These are very, very good dad shorts. C-I-A, female body inside there. Oh, so it's good. Do you remember how many guys had that fucking shirt?
Starting point is 01:52:26 Yeah, but it was like, okay, so two things. One, I remember it being in, once upon a time in Mexico, when Johnny Depp, the actual FBI agent in that movie, where's one of them? But it's supposed to say FBI. Yeah. So yeah, it's good to say FBI. Yeah. So yeah, it's good.
Starting point is 01:52:46 Good bit. Uh, so before I get into video games, I would like to tell a dad story that Wully got a tiny piece of yesterday. So there's a baby on the way that old little Patrick Jr. is on his way. And so Paige and I thought it would be cute to go to one of those places that does like a private ultrasound that's like a higher resolution ultrasound so you can see the baby's face right? Oh look, it looks like a little little pet or whatever right? So we went to one a little while ago but little little baby Patrick Jr. was not, uh, was not helpful and decided to face
Starting point is 01:53:30 away from the camera on every opportunity, just like, I'm not, no, away or like put his damn arm right in front of his, like, whole arm in front of his face. I assume if ideally taken you get something looking like BB in Death Stranding like a real right? That's the ideal you actually get like a baby photo of your baby like you know six months or whatever so We you know we they're like okay, you know you couldn't see your baby at all basically So we'll let you you know you, we'll have a do-over in a couple weeks. And then, you know, Paige and I, we're like, ah, and we want a schedule a certain day,
Starting point is 01:54:12 you know, that'll fit with our schedules. And so they're like, oh, we're closed on that day. But you can go to our sister, a ultrasound place. And Paige, it's a little far, but we'll make a day of it. We'll make a little road trip and go out there to see the kid. And so we did that over the weekend. And we get there. And the first thing that happens is page and eye light have to hold each other's hands
Starting point is 01:54:38 to keep from like, scream laughing because like we have, we are encountering a nurse joy situation the woman who comes out of the little ultrasound office looks like the twin of the other lady at the other office to the point where we thought she was the same person Nice until she said oh hello miss please to meet you. And we're like, what, what? Like same hair, same French accent, same brand of glasses, like same thing. And then we go, okay, and we sit down, and look the babies looking towards the camera, except what they didn't tell us is That this camera at this location is like 40 years old and is the shittiest
Starting point is 01:55:34 Altra sound machine I've ever seen in my life and we're like oh well you'll record it right? They're like no the recorder is broken have your husband videotape the monitor with his cell phone Okay Fine, so I'm holding up my fucking cell phone to videotape the monitor on Father's Day to watch this thing and We sent woolly one of the photos. We sent one at Wully one of the best photos they could get and she's looking at going, look how cute the baby is there's his eye as like Phantom of the through the photo Street Fighter 6 character creator wishes it could hit what's going on in that photo Yeah, no little little guy gags from earthbound fucking like what the shit is that camera?
Starting point is 01:56:34 What is this tech and as like we're sitting there and we're like we're like Like the video of me Video taking this monitor is like shaking constantly because like we're trying not to laugh in this person's face. Oh my god. But like it's like it's the most embarrassing fucking thing I've ever seen. And what happened? So we got there and there was a couple ahead of us, right? And the couple left and they were pissed.
Starting point is 01:57:07 ahead of us, right? And the couple left and they were pissed. They were like super mad. And you know, you have that moment when you watch a couple leave and they're like, fucking man, and I'm like, did they have a fight about the baby? And then we get in there and we're like, oh, I know exactly why I have to pissed. Because I'm about to fucking leave pissed off. Oh, man, it's complete dog shit fucking technology and wasted the whole day. Wow. To go into travel. I mean, I don't even know, it was covered by the fact that the last one was bad though, right, at the very least.
Starting point is 01:57:41 Okay. But it's a total, the whole thing is like a total wash. Like zero, zero baby picture. I wanted to send my mom a photo of her grandkids. This prenatal photo brought to you by unregistered hypercam too. Exactly, exactly. So to those of you out there. Third hyper cam too. Exactly, exactly. Exactly.
Starting point is 01:58:06 So to those of you out there, yeah. If you are your wife or your pregnant and you're like, maybe I'll get fucking don't, just don't. It's a fucking rip off. They're fucking ripping you off because they'll have a photo in like the little office that's like, look, these are some of the photos we've taken
Starting point is 01:58:27 and they're like, they're like a movie camera of like, of the inside of the brain. You're like, that's incredible. That's not what your baby's gonna look like. That's somebody with like, the placenta is in the right spot and they're really like carrying like super horizontal and they're filled and they're super big, and the baby doesn't move all that much,
Starting point is 01:58:47 and they're using the super high end one at the one place that they have it. No, you're not, no, it's not gonna look like, your baby's gonna look like a fucking dog monster. I mean, I kind of thinking that if they just took a picture of it with the good camera from the back, you could at least get a little d-o-go like, don't fucking look at me as opposed to that bullshit. And it's not.
Starting point is 01:59:11 What a mess. So, and like, so they take the photo and then they use a dial to like remove the distortion. And as they're doing it, you can see that the distortion isn't going anywhere. Well, so what I'm curious about is like, do they do it and then turn to you and go, ah, yes. Yes. Yes.
Starting point is 01:59:35 Yes. That has exactly happened. Oh, look at it. Can you make out the look at it? Look at it. Yeah. and like the I was like floating out when she said that Unbelievable like what a what a what a funny stories. Oh, can you make up the John Carpenter? Thanks going on Yeah, unbelievable, unbelievable
Starting point is 02:00:04 Yeah, yeah, unbelievable unbelievable Well, that was fun. Yeah, we'll leave you to this magical moment. Will It was it was very magical. It was real magical I also played some stuff You haven't played ff16's demo, so I'm not gonna bother because I wanted to talk maybe more nitty gritty about it But no point. They did say they're gonna try and fix the frame rate by release, which is nice because it needs it I also played the Lies of P demo. Oh So that's that is the Pinocchio board at home so
Starting point is 02:00:43 The best thing that I can say about lies of pee it is not We have bloodborn at home. Yay. Okay, okay, okay? Not that because here's the thing when that descriptor is on the money It's the right one to use and everyone agrees with it and when it's not on the money Everyone gets really really mad and goes fuck you for even saying that. So I'm like, I don't know. Just from the outside, it looks blood-borne-ish, but I don't know.
Starting point is 02:01:12 So what it is, it's a Korean developer, and it's the story of Pinocchio, as told through a from software name, basically. And it is a from software name basically. And it is a from software like fan project that was given a full development budget. And so it is actually closer to Sekiro, then Blur. Because of the limbs and
Starting point is 02:01:42 because of the parry system. So you can block and blocking hertz unless you're blocked at the last second in which case it's perfect. Is there stamina? Yes. It feels really good, it looks really good. It has a really fascinating system where all weapons are blade or a attacking part and the handle. And the handle determines
Starting point is 02:02:13 the moveset and the top of it determines its stats. So I was able to do weird shit like take like an electric mace and pull the top off and put it on my fencing handle. And now I had a fencing club, the Ditto electricity. The demo is also, they're very confident, the demo is insanely long. The demo took me an entire stream. It's like three and a half hours long. Wow. It has three bosses. Okay. They want to sell that idea on everybody
Starting point is 02:02:48 Yeah, and it is the it like the only part that breaks me is that Because of the puppets and pee and all that It has to be An Englishism because it's an Asian developer, but like having Jepetto look at you and say, my son, you are powered by P organs. Like, I just, I just don't like giggle like a child because I can't help it.
Starting point is 02:03:21 Great, great. I appreciate the confidence of a beefy demo, because it's like, if you're liking what you see here, you're not going to take the three hours and run and go, I'm satisfied, you're going to want more. So you'll definitely go invest, you know? Like you'll go, that's a good idea. But yeah, no, it's absolutely excellent.
Starting point is 02:03:44 I was really, really impressed. I am looking forward to it coming out in September. A long side. Everything else. Was the like, was the cutscenes and lines and stuff also kind of like Janky like not Well no cutscenes. Okay dialogue dialogue was
Starting point is 02:04:16 Normal normal, but also your character doesn't really talk so people talk at them and it's it's It's from soft game, but it's not a from soft game, but it is but it but it's not really Okay, you know people will talk so and softly chuckle So the the bloodborne comparison also came from the fact that aesthetically it's not Victorian England But it certainly is France. Yeah, it's definitely that and it looks kind of looks like Eric. Yeah, and there is rally like you do have like if you take damage from something while blocking you can get that health back by hitting somebody. Okay. There's a corpse run. There is a corpse on. Yeah, it is very, very, very, very much like a from-soft style action game, but different.
Starting point is 02:05:03 And it's really good. It's really, really genuinely impressive. I really, really liked it. Okay, nothing else to say. It looks good. The demo is big and free and available now. Yeah, I mean, again, the sentiment looking at that first teaser and stuff was like, I hope you really distinguish yourself with what you're doing here, because if you're not gonna, and if it really does end up just being like discount yard and at home,
Starting point is 02:05:31 then you can just go right on the pile. Not a real thing. Yeah. Also, they removed the Apeb. They were all puppets or bastards. Yeah, okay, that's a good idea. Yeah, that was a that was a good idea What else I do I beat the Street Fighter 6 world tour mode Mm-hmm
Starting point is 02:05:59 um It's fun And some things happened in it. It's an excuse to get some moves on your big dumb avatar. A story happened. Yep. And the world tour mode is there for two reasons. One is to build up your Cronenberg avatar with cool moves.
Starting point is 02:06:33 Yep. The second of which, which is way more important, is hang out with the Street Fighters. Hang out with the cast of Street Fighter and and become their pal and and spar with them and have them tell you stories like I hung out unsurprisingly with Zangief and so when I finished hanging out with Zangief and maxing out his style and all that he's like hey you know what you need to do aside from fighting you need to have a different hobby because you can't just fight all the time. Me, I read 300 books a year. I've recently started reading mystery novels, and then you get a nice little animatic of Zangief in a librarian outfit. Go into the library to read
Starting point is 02:07:17 his books. Nice. And people in texting you about make sure to work out every day and all that shit. And it's like, that's what that mode is about. So you can go meet Jimmy Blanca and talk to Jimmy Blanca about all the stupid shit Jimmy Blanca is up to. And find out that Jimmy Blanca looks like that because he has covered himself in leaf juice and he literally has died his skin green. Yeah, the jungle.
Starting point is 02:07:47 That's what happens. That's why he looks like that. Mm-hmm. Great. And he is running a scam. He's running an active scam for tours. He's taking kicks on jungle tours. What's the problem?
Starting point is 02:08:00 He is running an active criminal scam on those tours. Alligations, allegedly. And, you know, hang out with divorced pathetic Ken and give him a cookbook. Yeah, I think black and shan deserves marketing, frankly. There's a whole there's a whole dialogue about that where he's like, yeah, we's a whole dialogue about that, where he's like, yeah, we overproduced them and flooded the market. There's too many, yeah, yeah, yeah. That was the problem in Street Fighter V, actually.
Starting point is 02:08:33 The story Blankamaden Street Fighter V was, I made too many Blankachandals, I need to go make him more popular so that they'll sell more. Yeah. So all in all, it's a fun time. Really, at the end of the day, my real purpose for beating World Tour
Starting point is 02:08:50 is to unlock the ability to very easily and cheaply acquire all of the second costumes. Because once you beat the game, you can make money on the mini-game super fast, and then you just buy gifts for the Street Fighterz, and then you just give them like 20 cans of jellied eels and then they're like I here's my costume. Like that's what it's about. How many hours?
Starting point is 02:09:14 I don't fucking know. Okay. Because I'm really really 30 30 30 30. 30. Okay. Because I'm curious to hear about it to hearing the yeah the split differences because uh Um, I want to you know obviously as Susie got her 55 and I think like Rufle Manger got like 20 or something like that so uh
Starting point is 02:09:36 I the the the game level gates you to some degree like Like that like the farther away you are from someone's level, the more extreme the damage differences are going to be. Okay. How completion was your run? Not pretty good. I didn't do all of it on camera though. I did a lot of the side quests off camera. And costume like, did you, did you,
Starting point is 02:10:01 costume like you did on camera? That's just literally feeding like characters gifts. Oh, no, no not like not like main cast costumes. I mean character dress up outfits to put on oh I I got Blancas suit and just upgraded it and kept it the whole game Okay, so like you did yeah, okay, because I know that there's like parts that you get for your avatar that are like There's tons and tons of those two. Yeah, there's tons and tons and tons But I don't care about avatar panels, so I don't give a shit fair enough. Okay. I want to play dress up
Starting point is 02:10:33 So I'm probably gonna go pretty hard Well, here's the dress up doesn't doesn't affect your stats like one of the abilities you unlock is also is a custom appearance tab Yeah Transmog, right? Yeah straight straight up, like, yeah, stats don't get affected. Great, great, great. Cool. Uh, so yeah, it's fun. It's fun to go around Metro City and like see Carlos Miyamoto and, and have them come up with a wide variety of reasons for why Abigail isn't at his junkyard or Saddam isn't at his truck or you know what have you. I guess the only thing I want to know is now that you're on the other side of it, can
Starting point is 02:11:13 we still say Bosch and Leefend for the main cast in a future season? Sure! Okay, all right. Sure! Great. Look, looking forward to it. Sure, okay, all right sure great Looking forward to it. That's what I'll say Go hang out with retzu man, that's cool retzu sweeping up the fucking dojo retzu will text you about ice cream Like that that's what that rule tour mode is about. You guys are fucking
Starting point is 02:11:59 the horset at this so that's cool. What are you talking about? Don't ask questions unless you want the answer. That's what I have to say. Fair enough. Leaf-Fan is definitely the face of the next generation of Street Fighter. She even appears in other characters like story backgrounds. Yeah, so the fact that they introduced her on her laptop makes me think like, oh, she's gonna be your hacker, buddy, when you gotta fucking go do the dirt. You know? Yeah. That's a good guess. Yeah. It's also fun that when people text you, like,
Starting point is 02:12:27 leaf end texts at the speed of sound and Ryu takes forever. Yeah. Because he barely knows how to use his phone. I'm glad that they know that the thing everyone wants the most is fucking visual novel with the Street Fighters. With the world warrior fucking antics and bullshit. Hell yeah.
Starting point is 02:12:47 Yeah, that's great. Are you standing staring angrily at the washing machine? We need that. No, that's the tone of all those interactions. Perfect. Now that's pretty much it for me. As for this week, I'll be doing a sponsor stream for Aliens,
Starting point is 02:13:05 the Dark Descent tomorrow, also be checking out the Sea of Stars demo that just came out. And then the rest of the week, it'll be Final Fantasy 16 when I acquire it. Whenever that happens to be, I'm not sure when that's gonna happen. Okay, that's over at twitch.tv slash petstairs at.
Starting point is 02:13:24 All right. So next week when we talk about 16, just just have played the demo. That'll be plenty for your your your reference point like needed background. Okay. Um, yeah, it's going to be a pretty fucking packed week, but I'll see what's possible. Let's take a quick word for my sponsors though. Oh, yeah, so that's Something didn't get updated in regards to that. Oh, that's my favorite thing. Let me just go confirm that in fact There is still no update in that
Starting point is 02:14:07 Mm-hmm. That's great. Always good one. Things don't do what they're supposed to. You want to take a second to try it? No, no, it's fine. We're good to go. Okay. So,
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Starting point is 02:23:17 Hmm There was a thing there, but it's gone now yeah, yeah, no So onto the weeks then. Are you excited for Craven? Uh, I apparently have missed the Craven train. I don't know why all this news is up about Craven. You're Craven some Craven right now, maybe. We came started hot and everyone is up about craven some craven right now maybe we came started hot and everyone was talking about craven so clearly that was
Starting point is 02:23:50 the other came out after we went live oh fuck well we went live so no I haven't watched it earlier while we were talking about bullshit I would sound off out of the corner of my eye I I said, um, uh, will you, would you believe that Sony has made the same movie four times in a row? Is it just morbid out and then it is literally just like exactly the same movie again? Well, people seem to respond well to Venom and Morbius. So... Yeah, they love Morbius. Morbius too sweet Craven Bugaloo.
Starting point is 02:24:32 A Craven-Villian tickets. You're right, Veshito, in the chat. And... Attitude-wise, Craven is the same thing again, but this time he has that accent, and he's jungle themed. Right? Yeah. Cause he he's a spider man angry villain guy. So I watch the trailer and it makes he he gets his powers from the blood of a regular lion. That's pretty okay. It's not even a radioactive lion.
Starting point is 02:25:08 It's not a magic, it's what to the zoo? He a lion, he fought a lion and a lion blood on him and then he got super powers with cat eyes. Everyone is yelling that there is no accent. There's no accent. Why would there be an accent? Cause Craven has always had an accent in any non-comic book form. You remember that time Eddie Brock had that New York accent
Starting point is 02:25:33 that made him totally understandable and impossible to figure out his dialogue? That was a really great acting choice. Where they gave him that terrible, terrible New York accent that no one understands. So Craven is not doing any kind of Slavic accent or anything. There's nothing going on. I guess not.
Starting point is 02:25:55 His dad's from a crow. Is he, is he not even a, okay, what is his American accent? Is he like from Boston maybe? Or- Mom, I'll go watch the fucking- Can we get you know? Something going- I've had a feeling-
Starting point is 02:26:13 Like, does he have a- Affiliaccent? Go birds? No? I'm having a trouble finding a- Parley talks. Baltimore? Midwest. Okay. Boy, all right.
Starting point is 02:26:36 So generic Americans, American man. So then can we can we clearly see the steps are in place the plan is coming together the sinister six will rise To fight not spider-man because he's too busy being in a better movie in spider-verse elsewhere Yeah, the sinister six get together for nothing actually. I feel like I feel like no way home Just actively just shit all over Sony's face by having a multiverse story and just not including any of the shit They had going on. Well, okay, so here's the thing right? If spider verse
Starting point is 02:27:21 Danes to even slightly shout out the MCU and the MCU Danes to slightly shout out venom Then that means that fucking morbias is connected. He's coming And that means that this cravin is also connected. He's gonna crave all over those guys. So, you know, don't disrespect him because he's part of something great. But like, it's just funny how like the hierarchy of priority, it's like we look over in your general direction and give you a wave or a slight head up, you know. And it definitely felt as if, you know, Spider-Verse was on the receiving end of that certainly, especially when given the first movie, there was the kind of obvious, like you walk, everyone walked out of Spider-Verse 1 going, how come they didn't get Toby and Andrew Garfield
Starting point is 02:28:24 for the obvious, like those are the multiple verses that everybody does. Because they did that on the other thing. Because they did the Wando and then like so but now I feel like spider-versa gonging that is like oh yeah that's because that's a better movie. The better movie gets to nod its head towards the movie that's less good. Oh, Craven. Hey, can we all, can we all like try and convince them that Craven's really popular and that they just need to release it again and lose them way more money again? Because that was great. Okay, can we convince them to make the team up more been Craven?
Starting point is 02:29:01 Yeah, can we before the sinister six we need a morbid crave movie to happen to just set the groundwork like Hobbs and Shaw, you know, like like like like Tango and Cash. We got a morbid morbid Crave. And then we can six it up. These characters aren't even part of the sinister six Okay
Starting point is 02:29:29 You know what I think this is funnier with me not having seen a single fucking frame of it. Does he even wear the mane? Yeah, okay, he has a like a little jacket that he makes at some point where he's got the The main the big lines may not it looks bad got it got it yeah it's um dude it's it's like the same like it's like overtly the same movie as Morbius he even looks like the Morbius you know the thing is of course is at some point like in the middle of this fucking clown shoe shit Hershalla Ali is gonna walk in as blade and it's gonna be like oh fuck That's actually kind of sick though If they don't actually get their shit together that's been like the most fucked up
Starting point is 02:30:21 Development hell it sounds Marvel's been making forever sounds like it's a struggle but at some point they might just have him walk on camera and do his best Wesley Snipes impression and then walk off maybe because blade and fucking morbias are very tied together you know? Cool. Well anyways, no, not that actually. There's other films that can be discussed. There's other live action things to discuss.
Starting point is 02:30:56 I can't believe it. Can you believe that the one piece is real? Yeah, like, mm-hmm. Can you believe that it's coming to Netflix? You know what? I have, I have, I have, I have more than one thought about the Netflix trailer of the One Piece. That's funny, because I have zero, because I have no frame of reference except for the one chapter of One Piece I read that was the first one and the overall visual tone of the manga that I see from time to time. And then there was that one time my roommate
Starting point is 02:31:31 showed me that fight where the guy springing off the walls gets punched and it's the unexpected straight punch. But overall everyone really likes One Piece and it's like, that is one of the craziest things that is good despite how long it is. And so watching this trailer, I was like, ooh, okay, that's a weird looking show that feels as if it's taking place on a closed set. At all times, it feels like every scene they shot was like just in a green screen green screen like telephone booth really. But I've seen feedback from people that are like that looks pretty accurate, that looks like what one piece would be.
Starting point is 02:32:14 So yeah, okay. And I was like, if you guys say so, I don't know. I saw some people go in, yeah, that looks, that, that seems about right. Remix, so I guess. I'm combining my own thoughts with the better phrased thoughts of many people who I've read about and talked about this. So one piece, so let's, let's, let's skip how it looks for, to start. I think that the grandest joke in the world is that Netflix, a company that has made its entire corporate history about canceling things after their second season because the people aren't signing up anymore, deciding to adapt the longest running currently unfinished story ever. Mm hmm. To be like like a cosmic prank.
Starting point is 02:33:13 It's so funny. It's so, so fucking funny. Like you're not, you're not, uh, fuck, it's, you're going to get, they're not even going to get to the grand line before Netflix cancels it. Is that an arc? That, so the first, the first series of arcs is them getting the crew, and then they hit the grand line,
Starting point is 02:33:43 and that's where the story starts. Really. Okay. So in the TV show, the first 49 episodes are getting the crew and then episode like 50 is, we've reached the grandline where the story will now start. And so I would say, so I don't like the way one piece looks. I think I've always said this. I think one piece looks like trash. I hate the art. I, I think some of the animation on some of the episodes, particularly the newest ones
Starting point is 02:34:18 can be incredible. I, I hate what one piece looks like. I think every character looks like a deformed freak, and I can't believe people like the art style. That's taste, right? That's like we're gonna agree to disagree on the taste, clearly a lot of people like it. But I think it's fine because like things,
Starting point is 02:34:41 I like things that are doing their own bolts thing more than things that fall right in line. Sure, I like things that are doing their own bolts thing more than things that fall right in line. Sure, I like things to not look horribly ugly. That's when I look at the TV, I want to see a pretty picture. Cartooning, cartooning character designs is a skill. I respect it. But irrespective of my personal thoughts on the art style, the characters in one piece have weird body proportions.
Starting point is 02:35:06 Mm-hmm. Right? They don't look like normal people. And the people in the live action have to look like normal people to some degree, right? Luffy and Anasaji, Luffy and Azoro, they and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and get in live action. Like, for a human. Buggy, who is like a real, real freak? Yeah, he looks like a vaguely human-shaped freak in this trailer, like, okay, you know, okay.
Starting point is 02:35:57 That could work. But I think that a lot of the stuff with Luffy is like kind of unfilmable Because of the all the stretchy shit. Yeah, even then the the part where he stretches Mm-hmm. It looks it looks bad But it looks less bad than all the other stretchy CGI shit. I've seen to date Like it a stretchy arm is gonna look like a stretchy arm no matter what you do. You know? Yeah, and the stretch CGI looks bad. And I feel like, yeah, because I guess you got your
Starting point is 02:36:36 contemporary of currently Kamala Khan, right? Well, she doesn't stretch. Well, I mean her in beginning powers will Are there not the fucking proportional things going on stretch. She has energy arms So it's just that they just completely cop out on the on the fucking yeah Well stretch all right, I you know the funny part. I was about to say oh my god That's hilarious because I didn't know that I had no idea I didn't know that and I was about to say That the Hollywood solution would have been to just make Luffy have big energy arms that stretched out So that he wouldn't have to physically do it himself.
Starting point is 02:37:28 Right. I was about to just unironically say that. The last, the last stretchy people were the read Richards and the Dr. Strange movie for the four minutes he's on the screen. And then the last stretchy man before that was the read Richards from fan four stick, which looked like shit. And then the last stretchy man before that was the read Richards from the silver server movie, which looked like dog shit. So fucking go off read Richards. We're gonna need some plastic man representation real quick.
Starting point is 02:38:08 Yeah, that's hilarious. So that exact joke cop out I was about to say is exactly what they did for Kamala Cobb. That's amazing. Well, sure. I look at the one piece trailer and I go, that is way, way less bad than I was expecting. However, it still looks like it would fit very comfortably somewhere on the range in between
Starting point is 02:38:45 a tack on Titan live action film. And JoJo live action film. JoJo, I was gonna say JoJo, those characters, what the fuck can you do? And it's like, they're best, I guess. Takashi Mika did his best. JoJo's hair doesn't make sense and it won't. The end of story. Like that, like they're trying, but you're like, you shouldn't...
Starting point is 02:39:11 You shouldn't adapt this into a live-action medium. Like you shouldn't. Like it's a bad idea. A lot of its appeal comes from things it does in its own medium. Yeah, but Netflix is like, you know, when they want to do their own version of it, I assume that going with a 3D version of a thing is not enough of a distinct, you know,
Starting point is 02:39:42 like take on it, like they want it to be their own, you know. I still think the worst of all of them is the Lion King. I still, I don't think I'll, I will bring this up every time. I mean, I, I, it seems as if all of those live action Disney's are kind of hitting the exact same like why do you keep going a point but um interestingly sister story to this announcement is they then showed off the avatar well they nothing actually because there's a trailer and the trailer is just the logo shaking a little bit But they showed off cast photos and the cast photos look really good. I have to say they look really really good
Starting point is 02:40:36 but I am reminded When I see them I'm like those are good casting shots. That's cool I wish I we saw it in action we didn. And I'm reminded that the last time we heard about this was when the creators of Avatar walked off the project because of the creative differences with the Netflix staff and the things they wanted to do with it a couple years ago. So in case anyone forgot, some three maybe four years ago, the creators of Avatar went, yeah,
Starting point is 02:41:06 they wanna do something that we don't wanna do, so we're just gonna leave this one alone. So just keep in mind, that happened, despite the promotional stuff. That cast photo is kind of backfired to me because what happened was it's like, oh, that's actually pretty cool. It looks like they're going for like inuit actors for the inuit characters, right? Or they're going for Zuko Looksation.
Starting point is 02:41:37 Zuko looks like, you know. And then like the very first thing that I saw when I scrolled the page was did you know that the actor for soka faked being indigenous to get the role come on now he didn't now he did it yeah Did it now he did it yeah And did they did they just what did we do 23 and me? Did we just like Elizabeth Warren it and they went checks out? Into the three Cherokee tribes that are in the US and they're like
Starting point is 02:42:29 Three of them were like no, he's not just not one of us. I don't know where who the fuck you But he still got the gig and they and by the whatever point they figured it out He was already in casting outfit getting makeup done That's a hustle to like now to let that's a hustle. That's a hustle He rocked it, you know if he's got the if he spit in the thing and he's got the papers, then he can just be like, let's go. Then yeah, he's got the hustle going. Absolutely. Man, I don't think... Octavoons get in.
Starting point is 02:42:58 What are we doing? But you win there, though. But you win there, though. But you win there though, but you win there though. But you win there. You win there. Oh my God. So I'm going to pull out just a little fun little story. About Star Trek.
Starting point is 02:43:23 A lot of people aren't aware of. So there was a character on Star Trek, that a lot of people aren't aware of. So there was a character on Star Trek Voyager called Chacote, he was the second in command. And that whole character was completely fake. The consultant that was supposed to be the native consultant was not native and every single episode of which they're like six or seven about his native heritage were just pulled straight from someone's ass and invented wholesale on the spot. I mean, it's fucking... So when they made Eagle for Killer Instinct,
Starting point is 02:44:13 they filmed themselves going over and talking to everyone and Native people and getting the references and the voice acting and all the different bits and pieces and they're like, hey, look, we can we can show you the fucking receipts that we went and did our homework there. That's pretty that's pretty incredible. What happened was is that the actor who played Chico Te was Mexican. So they had a consultant named what was his name? So they had a consultant named, what was his name?
Starting point is 02:44:50 I'm butchering it, but Gemma K high water. And he was a Cherokee man. And he's like, I'll help you guys. Except his name was Jackie Marks and he was a Jewish guy born in California. Yeah. It's just like, oh, just like fuck it. Yeah. Man, like fuck it. Yeah. Man, you got it.
Starting point is 02:45:08 You got it. Like I want to see the fucking Scarlet Scar Jo resume. I want to see the headshot and then just like a fucking pie chart that shows you that she's actually part everything so she can play any role. Whatever you go, whatever you got, anything. She's connected to fucking, what is primordial Eve or whatever. Like literally just run that hustle, stack it up, let's go. All right, wow. And you know what?
Starting point is 02:45:42 That sounds like something Soko would do. A little bit, little bit. That's, I maybe they went, should we fire this kid? And they're like, hold on a minute. Hold on, is this true? That character? I think Soca might get into these kind of hijinks while he was, you know, sneaking into the fire nation,
Starting point is 02:46:00 maybe trying to get, like, with a get to go on a date with someone cute, you know? Maybe he might pretend to be something that he wouldn't. Season one, Saka would absolutely do that type of shit. Hold on, let him cook. Yeah, that reminds me. I gotta watch the last-year bender with the wife because I was talking about it as like the worst movie I've ever seen. with the life because I was talking about it as like the worst movie I've ever seen. She's like, well would I be able to understand how bad it was without seeing the show?
Starting point is 02:46:29 And I'm like, oh yeah. Oh yeah. Did we see that together? That fucking last year of ender? The live action one? I didn't see the live action one. Oh my god, it's the fucking worst movie I've ever seen. It is unbelievable
Starting point is 02:46:48 I've heard but I've not seen that being said though Yeah, it's it's well, we'll have to wait and see but casting casting photos aside I always think it's very telling when you don't show the thing, you know? It's like it's either the bending ain't ready yet or the casting ain't ready yet. I don't think there's, this is de facto improvement. Like I fully believe, over on that, that shamblon, you can't possibly. They could not make it worse.
Starting point is 02:47:29 Just can't. Yeah. In the meantime though, of course, we do know that the creators are working on the grown up avatar, right? So there's always that to look forward to but I will yeah yeah right they had that whole letter that they put out that was just kind of like whatever ends up on screen it will not be what we had envisioned or intended to make.
Starting point is 02:48:09 Just wash your hands and back away. Contractual obligations fulfilled and we're out. Okay. So that aside, a couple things going on just in the video game world. This one's more just like a catch up thing, but I guess I didn't really realize in the middle of the whole Xbox show contextually. When we saw the reveal for Metaphor,
Starting point is 02:48:43 I didn't realize that that was project refanticy. Yeah. I didn't draw that connection. So just in case anywhere, the part where it said refanticy metaphor on the screen. I must have, I must have completely, I must have been like this that part or I must have talked or something. I didn't, I am like, because I didn't like the thing in my brain is the, it's not the refanacy part. What I remember specifically is the red head with the night armor thing that that picture. I'm in like, oh yeah, that concept art piece with the refanacy thing was like from fucking five years ago or so and and just cut like I completely forgot so yeah
Starting point is 02:49:29 anyways That was They're gonna have a stream tomorrow giving more details on it. So We'll see what's going on But they have they have kind of touched on that there's going to be like friendship as one of the main deals and forging bonds and such is still going to be a part of it. So it does seem to kind of be like, okay, Xbox gets their persona. Did you see that as of yesterday atlas has removed all streaming restrictions for Persona 5?
Starting point is 02:50:11 I did not see that. Wow. Good timing, guys. Thanks, thanks, Atlas. Thank you Atlas They fucking paid me to stream that game and still at the restrictions Now I'll say one thing there are some characters in the persona franchise who pass away that I would love to own commemorative statues of their final states. Throughout the persona franchise, there are a couple of characters who die in ways that
Starting point is 02:51:06 are so cool that I would love to own a commemorative statue of those moments, you know? That would be the sickest shit ever. I don't know how many other franchises that applies to, but certainly if you want it to get your hands on a commemorative Commander Shepherd corpse, unfortunately Bioware seems to have backed down and apologized from offering up the commemorative Commander shepherd corpse of Mass Effect 2 So no you can't catch your hands on that and to me. I'm just like what the fuck Why what what what is this cowardice? Why don't we go all the way in if we can have a What a Laura Palmer funkelpop?
Starting point is 02:52:05 Why can't we have every major emotional moment of loss commemorated in statue form I think I still can't understand why people were even upset about like Who the fuck is out there going emotional up to bat for your fucking creative character? I want, I want all my corpse moments lined up on a shelf so that I can just have a big old fucking spoiler shelf and go don't look up there until you know. But once you know, like damn, that shelf is sick.
Starting point is 02:52:41 I want it. Give me every one of those characters that I care about in those moments. Make it hurt. For anyone that doesn't know, Google the words Laura Palmer Funko pop. I still can't believe they did that. That's weird. Just take that one in. I don't want to. No, you should though. PICK! Um, anyways. Uh, I suppose on the talk of corpses and such. Um, well hey, here's this. Listen up.
Starting point is 02:53:21 They're announcing Everhood too. And really? Yeah! And they're showing a trailer off and Everhood is getting a sequel. And a lot of people have pointed this out to me and have been like, do check it out. Have you seen it? And I'm like, yep. And here's where I'm at. I am legitimately excited for more everhood because the music and gameplay are awesome. Despite whatever qualms I may have with the ethics and morality of the plot of that game and the way it handles its philosophy,
Starting point is 02:54:01 I love the actual system that is battling the music and I super duper. I'm down to see more of that That looks cool and they're very very sick with the fucking visuals and all that like over the top music into Dodging and the the getting into the flow state, you know It's really fucking good at that and I'm looking forward to that and I want to see more of that. And I'd love to see if they tackle the plot in the same way or if they do anything else. I'm curious. I don't know how that's going to play out, but the gameplay of that shit was so fucking sick. And I'm legit curious to see more of it. So yeah, take a look at Everhead 2 on Steam. You know, I've had my long drawn out saga,
Starting point is 02:54:53 but the game was never the music and the gameplay have never been something to fucking just overlook, though that shit was super cool. So I'm happy to see more of that Yeah, I think it's like anyway, it's like it's up for wish listing, but We'll see what it actually drops. It's also the kind of story that like based on those story things Doesn't leave a whole lot of room for revisiting that world so doesn't leave a whole lot of room for revisiting that world. So maybe this could be a side story, prequel, alternate thing.
Starting point is 02:55:30 I don't know. I don't know. A completely different thing that maintains some of the connective tissue. Could. Absolutely could. There's not a whole lot of room for things afterwards, but there's infinite room for things before, I suppose. Well, technically, I guess there could be room for things afterwards if you're going with the... It's, anyway, it's debatable, I suppose. But, uh, yes, so there's that. Some time ago, we talked
Starting point is 02:55:59 about how Chokobo GP came out, and it was a Chocobo racing game that a lot of people were looking forward to and was actually apparently a fun racing game and was free to play, but unfortunately it was drowned in bullshit micro transactions and the greatest predatory practices and shit in the game that everyone was like fuck this, fuck this entirely wholesale, why even bother? So it seems that after enough noise and time Season two of Chocobo GP is removing micro transactions or it did a month ago or so and now there's a retail actions or I did a month ago or so. And now there's a retail
Starting point is 02:56:48 version of the game that you can get physically on switch with all of the micro transactions gone and everything unlockable in game there. So they just took what was there and turned it into a video game. Oh, like a regular video game, like a regular video game. Yes, which is kind of similar to what we I was talking last week about rocks Mega Man cross-dive Same kind of thing we took our micro transaction gatcha mess and just try to turn it into a game with a bunch of unlockables
Starting point is 02:57:17 And it's like all right. I appreciate that if you made a game that's legitimately fun to play and then you just like baked it and buried it in bullshit Please scrape the bullshit off. There might be a fun game underneath it. You know? There's at the Capcom event they announced Capcom Town? They announced nothing. Well, okay. So, they announced their celebration website Capcom Town was basically a go here for a bunch of Capcom trivia and you can go play old games and whatever yadda yadda.
Starting point is 02:57:59 And the thing that was interesting that I saw that popped up today was apparently in the credits on the website. They give credit for using aries for nest and snest emulation. So they officially make use of the emulators for Nintendo games on their website via licensing. Which, huh, I find very interesting and kind of wild because that seems like something that would directly be against the interests of the kind of company that would, you know, bulldog aggressively update their 3DS to stop people from doing exactly this type of thing.
Starting point is 02:58:52 Or the kind of people that would send people to your house over emulation and whatnot. So Nintendo, emulators are always in that area of like, well, it's not their actual IP or any of their bio so property. It's a calculator entirely if you get the games that's on you somehow. And Nintendo always likes to skirt that line. They fucking hate that shit. Having one of their game publishers or developers actually work with them in some way seems a very unusual move for them to acknowledge that, but Aries is apparently one of the better, if not best, nests and s-nests emulators out there.
Starting point is 02:59:32 And yeah, you can go on and use it right now to go play Mega Man 1 if you want to fucking go to Iceman stage and fucking die in a stupid pool with a Memorization block while that's the man one fucking So I like a man one is a bad game if you want to go and die in two seconds You can do it now, but yeah, yeah capcom officially lights a licensing and using an emulator therefore It's probably earning Nintendo's I or somewhat. They can't be happy about that. And they've, and you know, they've, I feel like Big Rudgingly almost did the thing where they acknowledged the fan project Mega Man Cross Street Fighter and made it pseudo official
Starting point is 03:00:20 by like saying, okay, we'll host it and we'll put it out there for like a limited two second thing. But ultimately, like, they don't want to use fan projects as official things. Yeah, yeah, they're they don't have that Sega policy of just like, yo, everyone check out this cool fan thing slash we're going to hire the fans to come do stuff over here even or whatever. Um, you know, so there was that. And then I feel like, yeah, then you get this. And it's minor, but it's interesting. You know, Yuzu got that whole topic with steam contacting Nintendo over it, being listed on steam as such, is out there, and you're just kind of wondering, like, if an emulator gets competent enough, that it is acknowledged internally in the industry as a
Starting point is 03:01:08 legitimate way to emulate a get a company's older games Which again the company that made the game can do whatever they want with it You have de facto created a reason for the emulation and emulator community to exist You've de facto created a legitimate thing that can be and will be used in the future for stuff that companies like Nintendo that don't give a fuck about preservation, stuff that they'll overlook, stuff that they don't give a shit about.
Starting point is 03:01:37 So like, the more you have these kind of like acknowledgements in a way, the more of a leg this entire thing has to stand on. Yeah, for a big company, not for you or me. Of course, but that's my point. It's just like, you know, the idea of like shady fucking sketchy emulators and whatever, which need to exist for historical purposes and should, because, again, the companies don't give a fuck about the preservation of anything. purposes and should because again the companies don't give a fuck about the preservation of anything when they actually like acknowledge okay you have
Starting point is 03:02:11 the best way to run our game we're gonna license this out you know like that that is that create that's an interesting thing I do think it's it's fairly fascinating but I see absolutely no change in any direction whatsoever ever happening for emulation. Oh, I mean corporate is gonna be corporate no matter what, that much is clear. Um, the, I guess that what it comes down to is like, if a company that owns a game that is like, you know, again, a Nintendo game or on a platform word, it would otherwise be fucking lost forever or something. If someone has like an eShop game where Nintendo has delisted everything and forgotten it from memory forever and they decide to use an emulator, you know, and implement an official like Yu-Zu license or something or whatever
Starting point is 03:03:03 emulator it might be, you know, to get something up and running in an official like Yuzu license or something or whatever emulator it might be, you know, to get something up and running in an official capacity. Um, like I imagine, I imagine if there were any kind of lawsuits that they had to deal with or any kind of bullshit, the ability to point to that as a official usage has some standing, you know? No, because Capcom's usage would not, like, is Nintendo is like, does Nintendo doesn't care about what Capcom licenses out for their shit. But if the company that makes an emulator, again, I don't know what I'm talking about, I'm talking out of my ass and I know that someone way more informed can come in and probably just chop it down at the knee. But what I, my thought is like, if there were a company that legitimately was like, hey, we specialize
Starting point is 03:03:56 in like, or we're offering a service, which is the ability to run this old platform, this old game on this old service, and you can implement that into your thing. That's attacking a company that offers those services is a little different than attacking a group of home brewers and a discord somewhere, and we just want to shut down their EXE, you know what I mean? Like, I feel as if... Well, I don't know, I imagine, but I'm not 100% certain.
Starting point is 03:04:24 I feel like... Not well, I don't know, I imagine, but I'm not 100% certain. I feel like. Not M.U. started out as the name implies people that as literally emulators and they're now a service and a publisher. There is a jump there in the kind of way that even crunchy roll kind of went or whatever. But the jump there is whether or not they can make the rights hold or money. Right. Like the emulator only becomes middleware acknowledged once it becomes middleware out of your hands. Yeah. Right. And let's say you were right in that this was like a precedent for
Starting point is 03:05:01 for the legitimization of umulation that would only matter say that I I think there's been examples of like Emulators being used even unofficially without credit in some cases you know and and there's been scant like like bullshit over that I want to say Nintendo had an instance where they used very visual boy advance I want to say like without credit or where they used visual boy advance, I want to say, like, without credit or so at some point. And there was some, I'm vaguely kind of remembering a story from years ago on it.
Starting point is 03:05:31 But, well, okay, I need to stop you for a second. If you're not saying that this helps legitimize emulators in some kind of legal context, then what are you saying? Sorry. I guess the the the precedent The the maybe I'm just wrong about my usage of the word. I think the the idea that it's like a precedent that like makes it un Questionably a victory in court is no no no you're being naive no I think that's too extreme comes with the
Starting point is 03:06:07 amount of lawyers you throw at the case yeah I think that's too extreme of a thing if anything I just I'm looking at it and kind of thinking huh you usually don't see this um that's interesting This happening more often will have a pathway where things can go do the dot MU thing more frequently from here on out if there is a reason for their emulator to exist. Yeah, the people who made these emulators could work with Capcom or become a company and offer their services for emulating old games as a business but not for consumers. I Is that the point you're trying to like that?
Starting point is 03:06:54 It would legitimize the consumer emulator or that it would offer them like a portfolio type of thing for their future endeavors. All right, I don't know what it's fine. I can't. No, no, I'm just, I'm like, what is, what is the end goal on, on this? I'm trying to badly ask if like emulator companies Nintendo's ability to target like an emulator creator, even though there's that whole like,
Starting point is 03:07:33 oh, it's the ROMs, it's the BIOS, it's not the emulator kind of thing. Oh, you never go. Because they have the money. Yes. But I suppose like, I know that they've won some cases years ago and some In the like the there have been cases that have been won over like whether or not an emulator can exist
Starting point is 03:07:52 Even though it doesn't and if it doesn't provide any of the Brahms and so on They lost to game genie. It was the was the big loss so Again without the full history of which which cases cases went which way I kind of wonder if having more instances of like being used in as legitimate middleware presents something that like can yeah, I guess lend credence to a lawyer's defense. So here's where it gets really complicated because emulators in North America, in general, and I believe in a lot of Europe, are already legal.
Starting point is 03:08:31 They're already completely legal. There's nothing even gray about using an emulator. There is gray about using somebody else's ripped bios out of a Nintendo entertainment system and breaking the DMCA provisions against digital protection blah blah blah blah blah. They're absolutely already legal, but using them to play games is where it gets gray. And that's where Nintendo always goes every time. Did you put the bios up for the Nintendo or the Super Nintendo? You're done.
Starting point is 03:09:09 Did you put a ROM? You're done. And they go after every single one of them they can go for and they will throw as much resources as they can spare for it. And emulation websites never have the fucking money to fight that off. They just die. Of course. And the reason why it doesn't feel like it is because if Yuzu is, I'm using it
Starting point is 03:09:29 because it's just in the recent news with Steam, is if a Nintendo emulator is listed on Steam and it legally can be, but Steam is the platform holder and they objectively decide whether or not they want to work with Nintendo and whether Nintendo likes that or not, whether they give a shit, you know, they can delistate even though there's nothing illegal about it being listed. Yeah, so like Yuzu could totally go up there, or people pointing out it was Dolphin that was supposed to go up there, right?
Starting point is 03:09:56 And that got pulled down. Dolphin's totally legal, no problem with Dolphin anywhere ever. Until you use it to play fucking GameCube games because to do that you need the BIOS and to get the BIOS there's no legal way to get the BIOS. So if you put up Dolphin and had like a single screenshot of it showing you playing a video game on it you're like but how? When the Steve Deck had its own promotional material and such and then Dolphin's listing supposedly actually had the bios in the listing, which is the no.
Starting point is 03:10:30 Right. No. Okay. And then yeah, buttons was pointing out, hey, remember what Capcom got the final burn alpha project shut down because they tried to license it from the team, but the guy who licensed it didn't have the authority or rights to license it so the team disbanded. I do not actually. Yeah, just assume that someone will shut down your emulator,
Starting point is 03:10:53 shit, at every day of every second. Okay, well, again, I try to, that's the best I could vocalize the thought, I suppose, I don't know. I try to, that's the best I could vocalize the thought. I suppose. I don't know. Um. Nintendo was evil. Good games, though. In summary.
Starting point is 03:11:18 So GTA Online update removes more than 180 cars and bikes put some behind paywall. Oh license. Hmm, seems like not license, but subscription for GTA Online Plus to get the things that used to be available. That's funny because like that's that's a that's a super big popular game with people who don't play other games at all. Yeah so basically there's the GTA online plus subscription that they're taking currently available content away and locking it behind that nearly 200 vehicles have been removed from the regular sale of GTA online. Move that Rockstar said would streamline the shopping experience. Yeah, so. It is.
Starting point is 03:12:17 It is kind of a it's it's. This type of story is always one that it's just like. It's hard to see anything but spite because it's not even like a new thing or anything current. It's just an old thing that has a very healthy player base that is still on it and it's still monetized in a way that, you know, is important to them. So you're going back to an older thing and you're taking a bunch of stuff that's been around forever and you're just going Maybe we can take this existing player base that's been around for years now and kind of fuck it over a little bit more Fucking streamline these nuts. Maybe we can squeeze a little bit more out of you. Thanks for your loyalty is the vibe You know, it's kind of insane
Starting point is 03:12:59 When you see that happen for older games and content that's been around for that long, you know Yeah so that happen for older games and content that's been around for that long. You know, um, yeah. So, uh, good shit. Good shit all around on that. Um, rip anybody who's out there in the, um, what is it? RP, whatever, whatever. That will be fucked like you're okay. We've had like the pub G thing where we're totally out of touch and the Gary's mod thing and like the GTA RP thing was also something that I'm like I don't get this at all
Starting point is 03:13:35 I'm gonna look into it and I watched like multiple hours of people streaming it sitting there going sit in there going Fuckin what the fuck is I just I don't get it. I am all the way on the outside I don't get it either. I've only seen it via live stream fails clips and I suspect that they doing it are Not also really fully enjoying it as much as the people watching the people role playing are enjoying watching it. I don't get it. I think it's like act dig or putting on a show and then people like watching you participate in the RP more than the RP being the goal itself. I don't know. I don't't, I don't know. It's so confusing. Like I, I watched like a half, like a traffic stop for like a half
Starting point is 03:14:30 hour. Like it's like just a, just a, just a invented traffic stop sitting around. And it's like, and like really mundane too, like really mundane cops and robbers. We still love playing cops and loggers. But I, I get the cops and robbers. We still love playing cops and robbers. But I get the cops and robbers thing. I don't understand the cops and speeding ticket person. Can I hang out in my car while I pretend to check your license and registration? And you sit there listening to me.
Starting point is 03:15:00 What the, but hopefully you sitting there will either speed off and then we get a chase out of it or we got a hilarious scene of you being super weird and funny and awkward while I write you your ticket and both of these lead to some content. This this and should I say something that that is going to sound, but I think it's not stupid. If you have to ask, you've already decided. This feels like the video game extension of all those stupid kids who thought they had an imaginary friend. Go on
Starting point is 03:15:47 Remember when you were a kid and there were like other kids there were like this is my imaginary friend And you're like are you a fucking idiot? There's no one there you stupid stupid child And they were like no they're right there and I'm like I don't want to talk to you. You seem crazy Do you remember that? I do I They were like, no, they're right there. And I'm like, I don't want to talk to you. You seem crazy. Do you remember that? Uh, I do. I do. Um, that this is their video game for now.
Starting point is 03:16:17 Well, here's my thing, though. Since you play MMOs, you've encountered our peeing, mmm, clearly out in the wild, much more often than I have. Yeah. You've seen it. Yeah, I've seen it. You've talked to them and possibly even participated somewhat. I have friends who do our piece stuff. Yeah.
Starting point is 03:16:37 Yeah. It's cringe. So, in this case, instead of, you know, Balbung, if I got that right, it's dead on. It's San Andreas. And people who liked being a Black thug back in the day, people who like to pretend that they were CJ and like they're like, wow, oh my god, I can't believe this is what it's like to have the experience and I'm black and I'm gang banging with the homies. I have all the voice you're doing.
Starting point is 03:17:17 It's really good. Because that's the kid who went, oh my god. And didn't know, you know, that's the kid that fucking had that awakening, the moment they got to play fucking GTA to fucking say that adres for the first time. And they never forgot it. And we fast forward a couple of years and here we are, right?
Starting point is 03:17:41 I get to be black. This is what it's like, but I get to do it safely through the through the lens of my PlayStation controller, you know, at a safe distance. Oh, anyway, okay. Is it not like that? But I get it wrong. I don't know Did did we are we not looking for the exaggerated swagger? Oh, man that quote's gonna live forever, isn't it? That one's just Okay, well and to those of you in the live audience we're saying if my kid has an imaginary friend I'll play along. I'll think it's stupid, but I'll play along. I'm not gonna tell the kid his friend ate there, whatever.
Starting point is 03:18:27 I'll defer to other people who had their imaginary friends. Talking stupid, though. Do you ever watch that imaginary friend cartoon? So okay, so when you say that, I don't know if you're just talking about staring at a wall and just having an imaginary. No, I mean a real TV show. I believe I'm talking about, I was, I was, it came out when I was older. Fostering. People were saying fosters. Fosters, home for imaginary friends.
Starting point is 03:19:09 That's a lot. Okay, it was younger than our time. It came out way after us. Yeah. No, never heard of it, it's a thing. It's a thing. I've heard of it, but I've never seen it. Was that strange of me as a child to go like,
Starting point is 03:19:26 there's no one there? I can only, I feel like I only remember one kid that like did that. And he wasn't particularly like loud and obvious about it. It was more like in conversation, he would kind of sometimes make reference to somebody that just didn't exist. And it was that was it. You know, like I'm vaguely recalling, and it was such a long time ago, like, but I'm kind of vaguely recalling someone
Starting point is 03:20:05 that, like, yeah, he would just, it wasn't like, hey, come meet him or anything like that. It was just like, oh yeah, no, I was talking, I asked him about this thing or it would just come up as a little bit of a side thing. No, the situations I'm describing is like I was in kindergarten and they're like this is my friend and they would point to nothing. Yeah, no. And like can't you see him? Like fucking no. No, I can't. You gaslighting me child. I didn't say that. Yeah, that that that I remember early internet the final call Calvin and Hobbs. Was one of the one of the early internet edits was just like Calvin growing up and basically being like,
Starting point is 03:20:58 I'm not really interested in playing anymore. And then Hobbs and then walks past Hobbsbs then Hobbs just turns back into a toy. Oh, okay. And then it just says the end and it's like super fucking depressing from like whatever like 2000s internet or even 90s. Hobbs is a toy- toy lion tiger. It's a tiger, rather. Toy tiger. And then the whole thing is Calvin has an imagination, and then they go and adventure it's because he has an imagination. What? I thought-
Starting point is 03:21:38 I thought it was a tiger. I thought it was like a magic tiger that hung out with them and talked to him and Then what did you think it was whenever it was a little a little stuffed animal? I don't know what I don't read Calvin Hobbs. I only well then it will okay. Well then there's your problem This discord like being well there's you think Hobbes was real how would he? There's your issue. I don't know Clifford's a giant dog cuz he's magic But if you turn the page and then Clifford went to being a stuffed animal Sitting there you'd be like oh, well Calvin Hobbes comics and he was I never saw a doll
Starting point is 03:22:26 Okay, well Yes, it's a it's a story of a boy going on adventures with his imaginary tiger friend That kid needs help That's why he's pissing on the Nike logo. Is that why? Because you yelled at him. Because the title told him to do it? Because you yelled at him. And you made fun of him. And you fucking, and you just, and you chastised him into shame.
Starting point is 03:23:03 Um, all right. Let's, uh, let's take some letters. Have you have a letter to send in to the Castle Super Beast mail at gmail.com. That's Castle Super Beast mail at gmail.com. Oh no, battery low, please charge now. Really? On my headphones. Let's do this quick. You got one coming in. Travis says, Hey, afternoon gentlemen, I was thinking back to when I first got a game cube and there was a demo
Starting point is 03:23:32 disc for WinWaker, I played the demo a ton and I loved it, but I never went out and actually got the game. I did the same with MotorStorm for PS3 and the demo kiosk at Target. Have you ever played a demo for a game and enjoyed it but never went out and actually got the full game Yeah, actually motor storm motor. I yeah, I remember the motor storm one. I definitely do I would say I haven't had Like but that yeah, that was that was a little bit of it. The more the most direct version of this I recall is the Walmart near me back in the day had Diddy Kong racing set up on an N64 for years forever and the most Diddy Kong racing I ever played was on that thing because nobody cared how long you stood there and played it and
Starting point is 03:24:25 played was on that thing because nobody cared how long you stood there and played it and um, you know, if like mom was shopping for a while or whatever, I would literally just stand there and do the whole thing and we never, I'm like I'm not buying Diddy Kong racing. I don't have the money for that. If we're gonna get a game, we're getting Mario Kart, but um, yeah, that Diddy Kong racing for sure. I don't know if this counted. I really don't think it counts, but like I played and beat Star Fox like six or seven times. Star Fox 64 and my dentist's office.
Starting point is 03:24:56 Oh wow. Yeah. He had a fucking N64 set that had my two on it. And sometimes it was pop racer Mm-hmm and That was there so the kids would have something to play with when they're waiting for their dentist appointments And so they kind of like go into the the dentist
Starting point is 03:25:15 And I got all I needed out of star Fox 64 go into the dentist The the dentist near me had Tetrisphere and Mario Kart. Yeah, that's good. That was a thing. Good call. It helped to like distract, because like you know when you're a child and go to the dentist and you're always there
Starting point is 03:25:37 at some point where some adult is being a massive pussy about their tooth extraction. And so like you're playing Star Fox and you hear, no, and you're like, holy fuck. No it was for me, it was more of a Brussels sprouts thing where you just kind of cartoons taught you that dentists were things to be feared. Because other kids in cartoons would signal that they were afraid and then getting your teeth pulled was always a scary thing and slamming the door especially was like an awful way to do it. So I just like like I It was only through like
Starting point is 03:26:17 Immune outside imagery that like fear of dentist even was the thing. Oh, you know, it's funny You mentioned because I actually so it's weird. I never developed a fear of dentists even was a thing. Oh, you know, it's funny. Do you mention it because I actually so it's weird I never developed a fear of dentists But what I did develop was a distrust of dentists Because um if I got a kid filled or I got a root canal. I'd be like I can still feel it I'm crying. I'm a child because I can definitely still feel the drill because I can definitely still feel the drill. And they're like, no, no, you can't. And I'm like, and I'm like 25, and I discover that people who with red hair need 30, 40, 50% more anesthesia,
Starting point is 03:26:54 and that I was not crazy, and that my dentists gasslet me by saying I couldn't feel the drill going into my fucking teeth, and I totally can feel it. Mm-hmm, mm-hmm. Yep, that's one way. I developed a little bit of distrust, but it was a very simple process. I was about seven, maybe eight years old when my cousin showed me Dr. Giggles. Yeah.
Starting point is 03:27:18 I still remember the scene of the suction cord going into the mouth with the fucking blades on it and then you see the suction's to noise and then all the foam turns to blood. I don't know what that is. I don't like it. Oh, Dr. Giggles, it's a like early 90s fucking horror film with an evil dentist that kills people. with an evil dentist that kills people. All right. His name was Dr. Giggles, that was the thing. Yeah. That was a, it was pretty popular. I remember that was that, yeah.
Starting point is 03:27:54 Yeah, that was a funny one. That'll get you. All right. Um, here, let's take one from, X says, hey G and patwer What are cases of real life events being the most appropriate thing to happen to a character or work my example in 2018 there's an anime called Hitori
Starting point is 03:28:17 Hitori but she starring hitori but she a pun on all alone Hitori Bachi, a pun on all alone, a girl with crippling social anxiety who has to make friends with all of her classmates and be reunited with her childhood friend. In 2022, an entirely different anime called Bachi the Rock starring Hitori Gojo was nicknamed Bachi, and it's release is about a girl with crippling social anxiety who joins a band as lead guitarist a running gag in the 2018 show was that Hitori Bachi being worried about being forgotten by her friends but now the 2022 anime became incredibly popular and it as eclipse the 2018 show. I feel supplanted in pop culture by a different cool being supplanted in pop culture by
Starting point is 03:29:04 a cooler different botchy is the most tutorial botchy thing that could have happened to the tutorial botchy. Oh, I mean, my my go to right now is everything that's happening with this goal. To discoliseum. That's why I brought it up because that's the definite answer. And the most disco thing that could happen is the legal fight for disco elisium and the bullshit therein.
Starting point is 03:29:25 Yep, all the commentary that that game goes into on capital on, you know, fucking the nature of the financial world and the political side of things, all of that just gets completely wrapped up into the Estonian fucking Mafia court case shenanigans with disco elizium itself potentially being probably never happening again with the same team because of all the legal fights. Um, yeah. That's a good example for sure. It's disco baby. And one last one coming in. Hello funny names.
Starting point is 03:30:19 I'm not smart enough to think of right now. That was me man. In the style of Hustler scam, I wanna ask offensive or funny. Hypothetically. Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh as Prime Minister Justin Trudeau. Does this fit the tropic thunder rule? Is this funny enough? Is this best left to the funny thought experiment? Is it offensive? Or is it funny? Sincerely, a different Justin.
Starting point is 03:30:55 It's very brave. Justin, I want you to listen to me. Very careful. No, don't listen to him. Look over here. This side of the screen. No, don't don't listen to him. Listen, look at over here. This side of the screen Justin. Do it. Don't trust him. Do it. Do not trust him. He is not trustworthy. Do it. Willie. I am giving you permission. No, don't do it. No, don't do it. Don't listen. This is the devil's bargain. You should really do it being the actual devil right?
Starting point is 03:31:29 I'm giving you the permission. No, don't do it to do it. I think that's a bad idea. I think it's a great idea. Send pictures. Post it everywhere. I know it, I know it. Yeah. Prove it and let me know when it happens. It doesn't actually make any sense though. Here's my problem with it.
Starting point is 03:31:56 Is that like Justin Trudeau did not dress up as himself in black face. He dressed up as like, like an Arab guy or in blackface. He dressed up as like like an Arab guy or Aladdin. I believe he was Aladdin. There was there was the one where it was just him in a white t-shirt and jeans. No, one time it was Aladdin. Another time it was just a brown guy. Yeah. So it you know one time it was a character. Either way, that's not the point. The point is do it and post pictures. I'm surprised you haven't done it already.
Starting point is 03:32:32 That's what I, I am. Absolutely. Co-signed. Do it. Straight to Facebook. Never mind, like get Twitter in there, get the Reddit in there, all that. But make sure you get Facebook in there as well.
Starting point is 03:32:44 You want all your direct IRL mutuals getting in on that tag. Tag him. Tag him in it. Um, pop it right the fuck off. Do it. You should not. All right. Don't trust Wolley. Trust Wally.

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