Castle Super Beast - CSB 249: NRPG

Starting point is 00:00:00 МУЗЫКАЛЬНАЯ ЗАСТАВКА Hey there. Happy holidays everyone. I hope you're having a good one. How about you, Willie? Are you having a happy holiday? Happy holidays to everybody. Yes, yes. A Merry Christmas and they seem to be new year. Hey, I want to give, hey, I want to give a big shout out. I was talking about this on the last couple of days of streams. I want to give a shout out to everybody listening to this podcast on December 26th of 2023

Starting point is 00:01:03 for not killing yourself yesterday Statistically Statistically, it's like the second worst day of the entire year right after Valentine's Day So if you made it to the 26th, you're good for at least six more weeks If you made it past Christmas and you're a dentist, that's like double points. Oh, man fucking dentist. That was so funny to me. Well, I mean tragic Nice a nice autocorrect What I when I found out the dentists were like way up there Not not not the path that was chosen but the path that was accepted sad

Starting point is 00:01:43 For those who don't know dentist. Yeah, the stats are not great. Oh, I fucked that one didn't I oh man awesome I'm correct. You got it. There you go. I caught it. It was it in time. Sure. Sure was we move past into this brand new year of 2024 Quite but getting there. Yeah soon. So yeah, how some holidays happened? Did some things. I guess right off the bat, so shout out to Punch Mom got me a very, a very nice towel warmer, which is a device that warms your towels while you're in the shower. And that is how warm.

Starting point is 00:02:27 Oh, it can get real spicy. You can knock it in. You can nuke if you need to. You don't need to, but you can. And that is just an evolution of the tech I've already shared with you guys. For those of you who probably weren't around a couple of years ago, or whatever I last brought it up, you want a free way to increase the S links of your relationship. If you happen to be living in a place where there's a dryer

Starting point is 00:02:51 and washer in the same room as the shower, and your partner's taken a shower, you go in, you grab the towel, throw that in the dryer, let that tumble and heat up for a couple of minutes so that when they come out, they have a warm towel, instant, instant XP on the relationship. I thought you were going to say hair dryer on the balls. Uh, no, not quite.

Starting point is 00:03:11 I thought that's what you were going to say. Something slightly more pleasant than that. Um, but yeah, you drop that on somebody unsuspecting while they come out of the shower, expecting a cold, uh, uh, uh, moment and they're getting a nice warm one. Bam, you've crushed it. Yeah, you're right. So that's a good trick. I've busted that out more than a couple times and it was greatly appreciated.

Starting point is 00:03:32 But the new place we have, the washing machine is no longer close to the place where we shower. So that has been impossible. Until now, it turns out there is a little thing you can throw your clothes in, even your underwear, whatever you're gonna change into, and just keep it toasty when you come out of the shower. So, fun tech, you should I didn't know existed. I didn't know that device existed

Starting point is 00:03:55 until you mentioned it to me two minutes ago. Yeah, there you go, that's what it is. So, and if you are in proximity to a dryer, use this, use this. Use this for free points. It's great. Got me one of those. And yeah, just kinda got back from the good old family

Starting point is 00:04:21 Christmas thing where of course the loud, crazy chaos and antics that are expected. And like the thing it's funny too because there's like some new significant others and like babies and stuff family members that are coming around for the first time. And I'm just kind of like hey guys first time just witnessing the tornado of this family because for some reason they never learn. They always have, it's whenever it's time to play games or do activities, it's always the most complicated series of games that require a bunch of steps

Starting point is 00:04:55 that are just not easy to explain to a room that's half listening. You talking like all the families all here for Christmas, it's time for Katan. That type shit exactly right? You can't do that. Yeah, that's a that's a rookie mistake. I mean literally in this case It was like like a homemade family feud And it was just like okay, but who remembers exactly the rules of family feud though and the cards are there and you fused and like

Starting point is 00:05:21 There's moments of like wait are you allowed to talk now now you have to be quiet? Wait, what are you a and like there's moments of like, wait, are you allowed to talk now? Now you have to be quiet. Wait, what are you all like? Like, I don't, I can't figure out like what order anyone's allowed to answer in family feud. Yeah, so like after like after blood was fucking spilled, it seems as if you are not allowed to consult with anybody unless you are stealing as the team Once the other team has for it is has not gotten enough points to win so It's just that the real rule or is that a agreed upon house for me. I don't fucking know man

Starting point is 00:05:57 But that's how that's how it goes and and yeah again like fists will fly at the Christmas tree You know you got a or even like, like, phone taboo, where you're like, like, okay, in taboo, you have to like have the word and not say the words that come underneath. But are you allowed to say, like, conjugated versions of the band words? Or, right?

Starting point is 00:06:25 And like, you're not allowed to use hand gestures, but like, can you make sounds and onomatopoeia? And just like all these. It's impossible. Where I'm just like, man, you know, what's great, cards against humanity. You know, what's great, just, it's trades. Like, just.

Starting point is 00:06:41 I don't wanna play cards against humanity with my mom. Sure, fine, then get apples to apples, right? That's okay. There, but ultimately just like the keep it simple, one rule for the whole room to hear and then not really fully pay attention to, that's what you got to do. You can't be having this complex thing

Starting point is 00:06:58 that you're bringing in, trying to get everybody on board with a, a, a, a, Katan or fucking, or in our case, we had like a house on Haunted Hill, which is a great game. And, you know, God bless, Punch Mom is like, this game's super fun, let's bring it with us to different meetups and, and she'll,

Starting point is 00:07:16 and like try to introduce the rule set to a room full of people and it's like, no, no one's gonna sit and listen to a simplified D&D campaign under these circumstances between dinner and dessert, you know? You know what, you know what's a game you can fucking play with like a large group of family members like Scrabble. Sure.

Starting point is 00:07:35 Yeah, you know. Yeah. Shurades works. You mentioned it earlier. Or everybody kind of instinctually knows how to play Shurades. I've gotten a few games that are literally just like talking points. It's like there's a podcast and they have a card game just called, are you garbage? And it's just cards that are just like, hey, do you have a second freezer in your garage

Starting point is 00:07:59 that your parents refuse to get rid of when you're growing up so they just shoved it down there and used it for like meet another shit? Yeah, okay like or or just or you know just different different man that's so fucking specific exactly that's I did yeah yeah yeah yeah and it's like they should have just that shit was probably leaking it wasn't good anymore but god damn it they were not gonna throw that free that fridge that for that freezer was older than I was exactly right it's a great game but it's like that's all it is it's just a prompt card to talk about shit like that and go damn you were trash bro you know and that's it and you're like no simple like simple easy conversations you know and like that you can't

Starting point is 00:08:36 you can't be anything that goes like more than three steps in with teams especially where it's not the whole room where people are gonna be at each other's throats keep it fucking simple guys yeah it's not the whole room, where people are gonna be at each other's throats. Keep it fucking simple, guys. Yeah. It's not about the intel, because you're like, oh, everybody in my family's intelligent, that's not about it. It's about getting the attention focused

Starting point is 00:08:55 for long enough to learn the fucking rules. When there's a, nothing is more loud and chaotic than a bunch of family members haven't seen it forever. And then someone's gonna bust out some photos in the middle of you explaining those rules and then everyone's looking at those to see. Oh no look at that baby! You know, you know, so you- The body had a hat!

Starting point is 00:09:17 Yeah, just be aware, but anyway, no, good times and whatnot. Brought home some ox tail ready to go so nice you got to do it and it's it's it's funny because like you know punch bombs definitely like we add a little some fewers were put out of like oh it'd be cool to like be the ones that host you know people over for Christmas and do all that and you know that'd be that that be a fun idea to a fun world to live in I'm just like yeah, how's your ox tail? How's your curry goat? What are we doing? I watch hosting Christmas like grind my mom down into like dirt like for 15 years and then my sister

Starting point is 00:10:02 Decided I'm gonna host Christmas and it's gonna be the best Christmas ever. And she was so like, she was so intense about like it being the best Christmas ever that she didn't eat a thing until it was like 8 p.m. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's how that goes. And she was like, like she was like, she had fought someone. Absolutely. And it was immaculate. And everyone was like, hey, sis, sit down.

Starting point is 00:10:30 Yeah, no. So you know, no, no, no, the fucking pastry, the fancy pastry that I decided to make only for Christmas. It's, I gotta watch it. I gotta watch it. It is an all day boss battle. And you're only at phase two when the people get there. You know, and then you all the part of that too, as well,

Starting point is 00:10:46 is you have to do the debuff beforehand, where every time something that you've been slaving over all day is out of the oven, you have to go, it's not very good, by the way. I missed on a couple things. I meant to go get some of this, or I was supposed to get some of that, and I couldn't get it, so sorry about it,

Starting point is 00:11:04 if it's a little bit dry. Then you just got to talk it all the way down. It's incredible what he's talking about. It's the best you've ever had. And it's just like nah, I know, I know. I know, I know. I could have sprinkled fairy dust on it. I should have gone to the storing arts on it.

Starting point is 00:11:17 Absolutely, San Bag, everything you bust out when you do. It's insane. So, yeah, no, much fucking appreciation to that endeavor. Maybe we'll get there, but let's start with training wheels, you know. Anyways, yeah, so in terms of a week though, yeah, a couple things obviously. How's how they met Suri? There you go. Florida events did occur. They did happen.

Starting point is 00:11:48 They could not be denied. Holiday Met Suri was fun. There was a, yeah, basically a predominantly anime con, which is, I haven't been to in a minute. Most of the stuff I've been to has been like just games and you know, more focused in this case, but yeah, definitely a large, you know, cause play larger cause play segment to this and more anime in general. But the game room was where we were brought in to be and so we, you know, did

Starting point is 00:12:16 some events. We did a fun panel with Justin Wong on fighting game content creation. And yeah, had a bunch of had a bunch of just, you know, um, yeah, silence. Why isn't there like a question about that? Like, wasn't, I remember, like, there was like, I can't remember. I feel like you said that the theme of that

Starting point is 00:12:36 was gonna be a question about fighting game content creation. Yeah, yeah, the, the, the title of it was, like, like, Justin made the title, uh, fighting game content creation. Is it good? Like it is what was the answer will he spoil it for us? It can be if you're willing to travel to Pakistan Otherwise, that's hard stay free Yeah No, there's good there's good. There's lots of good stuff in there. Um, you, you don't have to just travel to Pakistan.

Starting point is 00:13:08 Uh, sometimes you can just make a playlist. Um, and you can just have that playlist be moments of hilarity that people will scroll down forever, or whatever, 20 years in a row. You know, uh, whatever the case it is. So, um, we did that. And then, of course, uh, the fucking narrative that I, I could not escape was the, I went to Florida and got O of five by Jabalee. The like god damn it. This motherfucker is got his head inflating in dive kick for a reason. Cause the shit talk never stops. It is.

Starting point is 00:13:44 I mean, Wully, I, I mean, everybody like listen, inflating in dive kick for a reason, because the shit talk never stops. It is. I mean, Wully, I mean, everybody, like listen, Jabalee is like a known long term fighting game guy. He said he's in dive kick. He's clearly really good. And I don't think you should have anything to feel embarrassed about, especially since you don't know anybody

Starting point is 00:14:03 who was able to beat him. There you go, right? Not at all. It's just it's an insurmountable task except for the part where Reggie did it and then went on to get third place at the turning. Oh, oh, that's humiliating then. Oh, he did. Oh, God. He did exceptionally well for anyone who did happen to tune in by the way like he had a fucking good run So there you go probably teach you how to play firing games. He probably should What he's doing it would be nice. It would be nice. I was like hey, bro You got a pocket blanca you want to run some sets and he's like damn I guess I might have to learn him huh? You playing blanca blanca

Starting point is 00:14:41 I do like a bit but I like I like Marissa right now is like, her style hurts everything. But I'd also like, also Blanca is the setups, it's the difficulty is very, very high. It's very hard. It's really, really hard. But like, I sat next to you for years, we're like, I'm gonna make Blanca work.

Starting point is 00:15:00 I'm gonna, yeah, Blanca, I love Blanca. And now we're here, where Blanca is like really, like really, really really kind you're like No, it's Honestly, I just love Marissa like I just love her and her and everything she's doing I love I love the character But I did go and spend time to learn Blanca enough to have like Blanca there. I just haven't done enough matches and sets to have the same level of experience with both

Starting point is 00:15:24 I do have a Blanca, but I it hasn't I haven't as as a much as experiences. Marissa and I just I love Marissa. She's great. I that's it. I play with my heart. What do you want me to tell you? You need to go back to the the Wully of 2000 or 2001 or 2002 who was sitting there going man I really like Saga Blanca and Sakura. I wonder if they're any good. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, and CBS too. The thing, and of course, though, this is the fucking highest IQ required Blanca, and it's ever been.

Starting point is 00:15:55 You know, this is the one that shoots beyond the regular version of that character. If you can master all those setups from every position on screen with every character, so you're unstoppable. Are you saying that Blanca went from a character based around, what if I did a bunch of shenanigans? And as now turning into a character that's like, what if I got really good street fighter? Well, it's more like, no, it's, it's, there's a wild, it feels like Blanca went from like,

Starting point is 00:16:29 like goofy mix up nonsense to, all right, where are they on the screen? Is this gonna juggle the fat character in the corner? Is this pretty much the situation? No, so the mistake you're making is acting like those are two different things. It's the exact same thing, except in this time, the shenanigan has been predetermined according to the chalkboard behind you.

Starting point is 00:16:53 You have already labbed and created the outcomes of every shenanigan. So how to force your opponent into each possible shenanigan outcome. You know how to force your opponent into each possible shenanigan outcome. Get the cursed seal on and get fucking shenanigan level two out. Oh yeah, I have, I do reach there, you the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the And then of course there was a third strike cab and there was a CVS cab and a bunch of the classics. So it was fun to just run some sets on that. There was people streaking on those machines as well. Lots of fun, a third strike play getting pushed.

Starting point is 00:17:58 A third strike makes me think, all games are like this, especially as they fall out of favor. But it's like, if I keep playing third strike every day, everyone else in the world Third strike makes me think all games are like this, especially as they fall out of favor But it's like if I keep playing third strike every day Everyone else in the world is only gonna get worse As long as you keep the torch up every day that's like like it like that It is not going to happen. There are still monsters on I'd fight Cade and you can always go find them but There are still monsters on fightcade and you can always go find them, but Yeah, but still it was incredible and yeah, the one of the guys who runs the jazzy circuit, which is the third strike

Starting point is 00:18:38 Regular meetups was there just Ran like hundred game streaks and was in the middle of like a 51 when we walked up and just like, okay, let's throw ourselves at this wall for a while and just see what happens. I wonder if the meat grinds can grind my meat. I'm Ericus. Sure did. Yeah, I had some fun with that. Shoutouts to everybody as well that we saw. There was definitely, yeah, I got like a cool, you know, some cool art in Princeton, was able to, yeah, big thanks as well to the folks that hooked us up with, I got volumes one and two of Joe, Joe Lans, so part nine was just pretty sick.

Starting point is 00:19:19 Oh, I am. I didn't realize that when I was already starting coming out. Yeah, yeah, it started. I didn't realize it was already like gathered in, know two volumes, but it's it's moving along And I also wanted to just for collectors sake. I got the first volume of Steelball run back in the day And I wanted to get the last one to because I mean it's Japanese so I'm you know, just more vote just to have it and I managed to get that too so there was and

Starting point is 00:19:46 Yeah, a couple a couple other things. I also got reintroduced to buckies, right? Which is the, like, you're gonna see a pop off in about two seconds going off in the chat because if you are from the south, buckies is a religion. It is like, if you're in Philly, it's Wawa or it might be Sheets depending on which side you're on There's always that like local place that everyone fucking swears by and it is it is just your go-to you have to go eat there

Starting point is 00:20:14 You got to go buy food there some people are like that with Trader Joe's which is another thing that we don't really have and They'll just build those again swear by that shit But Bucky's is the one with the beaver in the middle and the yellow circle And if you're a fat artist that does anything like for example, so yeah, we got like a Bucky with Hatsune Miku hair And like they like season to assist you over shit like that like do not fuck with their their brand They're aggressively about it but um they have they have things like the Beaver Nuggets, is what they're called.

Starting point is 00:20:48 And like they're like, I'm just a bag of just sweet treat, like Nugget Things. And there's like all different version, cinnamon, flavor, and all that. And when you eat them, they're basically corn pops. So if you've had corn pops, they're like that. I really didn't expect this to build up to. It's a corn pop. Yeah, it's good. It's fine. It's it's none wrong with it, but it makes me want to bowl a milk. Yeah, essentially,

Starting point is 00:21:12 but it's a larger corn pop is the way that feels. Um, way how large are we talking? Uh, maybe like four corn pops in one. Oh, that's too big. It's a big it's a big pop. That's it's a strange thing you've described coded in sugar. Uh, so, uh, yeah. There's there's and and and I know that I'm sure once you go in there, you can get all kinds of other, uh, specific buckies related, uh, parallel and such. I got the hat the some time ago from someone who brought it down and I was like, what is this? And they're just like, no, dude, you got to you got to rock this.

Starting point is 00:21:46 You don't know the power of the Bucky's hat. But yeah, so did that. Wanted to go eat at want to go catch some dinner somewhere. And everything was closed because, you know, as it turns out, we're in one of those areas in Orlando where most restaurants are shutting down at 10 and if you're lucky, 11. So what do we have? What do we do?

Starting point is 00:22:09 The only place open is the fucking waffle house. Yes. Yeah. So we went to the waffle house. There's photographic evidence, I believe, of this event occurring. Now, you know, the many people point out, of course, that the where you take your photo, whether if it's inside or outside, inside, you got to challenge the waiters or so. And it's like, no, no, everyone's getting real specific with it because the waiters inside

Starting point is 00:22:39 can parry the chair throw. That is true. But the point is that the entire waffle house zone is aggro, right? Is the PVP zone, the moment you get out, and you enter that parking lot. I saw someone point out in the comments of the photo that we took, you know, squirt up against the backdrop of an accidental Rococo retisots painting of the waffle house. They're like, yeah, if I pull up and I don't see the cook angrily smoking a cigarette outside, and when he sees me, he angrily puts it out

Starting point is 00:23:14 and walks inside if I don't even wanna eat there. And I'm like, that is exactly what happens when we walked up. Oh really? The cook was outside, smoking, just whatever. And we like take our dumb photo on one side. And he's like, he goes and talks to some guy, puts the cigarette out and walks back inside.

Starting point is 00:23:33 They're like, damn, what? I want my food cooked with resentment. It makes a taste better. Yeah. That's the secret of those hash browns, man. It's not just the beef and cheese on top. The, it's always fun to, to introduce folks to the waffle house emergency metric. I don't know if, I mean, the waffle house is closing down.

Starting point is 00:23:58 That means this hurricane's gonna be pretty bad. There you go, right? So you can use the waffle house index as a mean of determining how bad it is. If there's a Warricane that's happening actively, but it's not that bad. They'll be yellow. So they'll be open maybe running on a generator Limited menu like absolute madness. They never fucking close So yeah, you can Google Waffle House index for more information on that

Starting point is 00:24:24 And then of course, there's the you know the Waffle House on top the Walmart where you can Google Waffle House Index for more information on that. And then of course, there's the Waffle House on top of the Walmart where you can break through the ground and then continue your combo tech and style while break to the parking lot. But yeah, that was a fun experience. And like there was one of those things where I feel, you know, Reggie's the kind of person. He's like, he's, you know, he'll be talkative and social

Starting point is 00:24:47 and like, be like, oh, hello to people and, you know, try to have those little moments in ways that I definitely don't. And, you know, when, you know, the waitress came over and was just like, hey, so we ordered her up and just like, hey, do you want any sauce? And there's like, oh, what kind of sauces you got? And she's like, you know, ketchup, mayo,

Starting point is 00:25:05 waffle house sauce, barbecue, you know. And the waffle house sauce. Oh, yeah, and so, so, what is it? Okay, so Reggie goes, ooh, waffle house sauce, eh? And she's just like, yep. And then it was like, okay, I was like, I'll take some mayo, like, yeah, he's like, I'll take some, he's like, okay, I was like I'll take some else like yeah, he's like I'll take some is like okay She just walks back and I'm like bro. It's a fucking waffle house like are you're doing your you're like

Starting point is 00:25:32 He puts his like he turns towards like expecting to get a yes of course, you know It's glazed with a reduction of base There's a there's a there's a a pure a that has been chilled for 48 hours Like what the fuck you're expected to get she's like did I stutter nigger what the fuck you think this is the fuck man Yeah, what house? I feel like if somebody sees confusion at that thing Well, I it's like mustard with a little bit of mayo or some shit But it's it is a waffle house the tire-in-this level of everyone

Starting point is 00:26:04 But it's it is a waffle house the tiredness level of everyone They're on alert for chairs flying by their heads. They ain't got time to explain what the fuck waffle house sauces If you're here, you should know if not figure it out America's got all sorts of fucking weird weird sauce names Yeah, they do I also they got that fucking horsey sauce. Oh, which is, is that just horse radish? No. It's a different thing. Okay. It's not horse radish sauce. It's horsey sauce at Arby's.

Starting point is 00:26:36 I, okay. Cause Americans is crazy, man. It's a meaward horse radish. That sounds pretty good. With kick, that's pretty solid. I like that. I'll tell you what though, I did get introduced to a concept that I don't think I've been to before.

Starting point is 00:26:54 We went to a hybrid hotpot KBBQ place and they had a sauce bar. And I'm like, okay. What are these words and how have you combined them together? How are sauce do you need, man? Yeah, and it turns out a lot actually, because when you're ordering and making your hot pot and you're doing your barbecue,

Starting point is 00:27:16 stuff and grilling up, they have a like whole bar that you can come in and get bowls and mix your sauces to have different sauces for all the meats and shit you're cooking. And then people are like, that's normal, not here at eight. Like I've never experienced a sauce bar. That's a wild concept.

Starting point is 00:27:33 It was pretty sick though. It's nice to have that many options. I must say. You know, and it's just like, yeah, instead of explaining it to you, just fucking go up and get it. There's a bill a million, take your pick. And if you're the type of person that wants to drown

Starting point is 00:27:47 whatever you're eating in the sauce so that you could barely taste it anymore, go nuts, have at it. Yeah, shout out to the Infinite Fighting Game Stage that is the lawful house. I think we did it. I'm glad I retook the picture because the one I took out front,

Starting point is 00:28:04 like admittedly, just right after the fucking like cookwalked Back in or whatever I'm like let's do our dumb shit meme whatever but afterwards from the side when it was nice and quiet 3 a.m. That's the that's that's yeah, it's your perfect People see you probably like like the waffle house people. I don't care, I'm not coming back to Orlando any time soon, bro, I'm trying to move, man. Like, yeah, shout out to On the Way in. Oh my God, On the Way in to the fucking convention. You know, we had the pleasure of meeting,

Starting point is 00:28:42 we were in the same ride as Emily, the voice actor, and Karen, who was a playtum, Aisha on the Power Rangers, right? Really, really nice folks, and we were just, you know, getting our ride through and having a nice conversation as we were going for, you know, most of the, I guess, 40 minutes or so to the venue. And in the last stretch or so, the driver is like, yeah, it's just huge power, it's just fat. And he's like, yeah, it's so great to have you guys here and stuff.

Starting point is 00:29:16 And it's just really cool that we're having these types of events where we can have voice actors and real actors and You know and all kinds of people coming out and we'd read you're like whoa What the fuck what is you just say? Yo chill chill chill what like? Let's go back undo controls. He what the fuck bad, you know, and he's like whoa What what what and then you know she's just sitting there nicely like uh-huh? And he's like, whoa, whoa, what, what, what, and then, you know, she's just sitting there nicely like, uh-huh? Okay, you know, and we're just like, okay, redo, redo, go back, he's a cold-on-hold-on-wait. Now, let me, let me explain, let me explain And we're like, okay, okay, and he's like, I just think that, oh, shh, oh, fuck this.

Starting point is 00:30:00 I just think that, you know, there's I just think that, you know, there's real acting and that's in front of voice acting. Like, we gave you a chance to fix it. And you double down. And we had 20 seconds left in this 40 minute car ride. And you couldn't hold it back. What the fuck? I'm like, you're like, with your body, you know, like in front of a camera.

Starting point is 00:30:26 I'm like, there's literally not, you know, not in a recording studio, you know what I mean? Like, there's so many ways to, there's, there's like, like, the fucking, there's a hashtag about this, you can go back to. Like, I think voice acting is acting. There's a whole thing. And just from left field at the last second,

Starting point is 00:30:51 couldn't contain it, had to drop it. And we just got out like, okay, yeah, take it easy. Like, what the fuck was that? And she's like, I don't know. And we're just like, okay, we'll fucking, we'll jump in front of that that that fucking Suzuki shot, man like Jesus Christ The awareness the awareness like like it it was kind of incredible because you got vibes

Starting point is 00:31:19 You know on the way it was like okay, it's just person a little quirky, but you know, like, just kinda shooting things out. And all right, you're one of these folks. You know, you throw yourself into a lot of what's the conversation and doing things and carrying it. And that's all fine. But that was just like, God damn, bro. You know what I love about that? Oh, it's like weed layers.

Starting point is 00:31:39 People who play a lot of games, particularly you and I who played a lot of games that got localized from Japan. Um, we got to see like, like got our whole feed in it of like, Hey, we're getting a bunch of real actors for our game. And you're like, Oh, goodie. Right. So the voice acting is going to be really bad, huh? We spent a whole lot of that ride discussing how awesome the voice acting is in Baldur's Gate 3 and how fun of a game it is. And the game is like the next step up

Starting point is 00:32:14 because it's all performance acting. Exactly. Performance capture. That was, but I'm like, that was the precursor that led into that conversation. Like, it's the still do, yeah. You want a trip, you go play Yaka's a one in English, and you're like, we got, Mark Hamill.

Starting point is 00:32:32 Everybody, so Mark Hamill does a great job, even for a role he doesn't remember, which is really funny. I don't know if you're aware of that. I think it's only the way. I think it's only the way. Hey man, how'd you like Majama? And he's like, fucking who? But he does a great job.

Starting point is 00:32:46 But then they're like, and also one of the villains is Michael Madsen and he sounds like shit. Oh. Oh. Oh. Foded it in. Yeah. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:32:59 Well, not everything could be, fuck, goddamn it. What was the game where he's basically Frank Castle, but he's not Frank Castle Mike Manson. Yeah, they got him. They got in and it was literally done by the the Punisher Max artist What it's not but yeah, yeah, whatever it's it's gone Yeah, it's not but yeah, yeah, whatever it's it's gone Anyway the Rogue warrior. Thank you. There we go. That's another oh my god. Yeah, that was based off that real guy Who went to North Korea and cut all those dudes? That was another one that was on the QA floor, man I don't know it was it was had fucking

Starting point is 00:33:46 Joe dink or some shit he had some ridiculous name dick Marsego. Is that what it is in my mind? It was probably Mickey Rork my mistake my mistake Mickey Rork not madson Madson did do the reservoir dogs game with the the cycle bullet festival system Never mind. All right, I'm getting my my QA grumble stories mixed up. Don't worry about it. All right, it was a long time ago, the the fucking the spreadsheet can't get to you now.

Starting point is 00:34:15 There you go. And for the less you've somehow brought the spreadsheet with you. And have you. I have not. And you know, and for the most part, Florida also could not get to me because the con was localized into the hotel and that's pretty much where we stayed. So you didn't have any like... Going out to a waffle house late at night, I think encapsulates trying to make something

Starting point is 00:34:37 happen. Yeah, and the story is that Reggie asked about the sauce and the lady was like, hmm, that's it. Like, instead of an alligator jump through the window and the lady was like, yeah, that's like instead of an alligator jumped through the window and attacked y'all. Correct, correct. But I'm not for lack of trying is my point, you know. Although on the way back we did see an ambulance pull up

Starting point is 00:34:56 because Salar had a little too much to drink. Oh, that's always fun. And Salar was just like, it was like, yeah. Oh no, those Genshin Impact characters are barfing all over the sidewalk. So, I'm sorry, that armor is going to get real hot real quick. That bucket might come in handy. The bucket helmet. It's better than your shirt. I think we can all agree. I would agree. I would agree. Yeah, so you know, all in all,

Starting point is 00:35:22 I would agree. I would agree. Yeah, so you know all in all pretty cool. We did our little beat the pro event which was just like yo come be exactly right Like man just did you didn't name it that you like I didn't name it at all That's the name of the official event. And I'm like, Oh God, here we go. You know, socks. Well, to be fair, the only ones that managed to get wins in the war, ultimately, Jabalee, who sat there and was like, ah, content, right? They were like, sure. And then the person who went on to like the guy who beat Reggie there went on to also send them to losers in the tournament.

Starting point is 00:36:08 So, you know, we got, yeah, we had a real, real solid player. That was there. So, um, but like it's just like, I mean, please don't use that word. Like, Jay Wong can do a beat the pro event. We can't stop it. You have to win a major tournament to be considered a professional, right? Is that like the logic? I would say at least top three, perhaps, maybe get a sponsor. I don't know. But anyway, yeah, so that was good time. And then I guess I'll also be on that to play some games. Um, very, very briefly.

Starting point is 00:36:48 I checked out the brand new mobile suit Baba. Oh, fuck. What a fucking awesome out of nowhere. So right up my alley ass. The game was free free for a couple days. And I said, Hey, Paige, do you want to play this? And she like left the room. I don't know what it is anyway. It's free right now. I believe you can still get it. I don't know when it officially goes up on steam or anything. But on the itch.io page, the creator of Baba is you has made a game featuring Baba and

Starting point is 00:37:21 Kiki and all the friends. But it is in the style of Into the Breach, and they straight up say, we are fans of Into the Breach and we want it to make one. And Baba is piloting a Baba Mecca, and Kiki is piloting a Kiki Mecca, and you move them into the Breach style maps to visit buildings and do all that stuff. Except there's also the fucking programming language of Baba on the field. So mountains is block, you know, water is sink.

Starting point is 00:37:49 You have to move into the breach style to break apart the rules of the world while also doing your tactical movement isometric. Super down for this. I mean, one, obviously the inspiration is one of my favorite fucking games there, but two, yeah, just taking that tone and calling it mobile suit, Baba, you know, and then the intro is like, yeah, in the future, the fruits have to be collected and the fruit, the quantum fruits are under attack and, you know, they have to deploy the Baba Defense Force. It's the best. It's so good. So, shout out to the out of nowhere, little side sequel bit.

Starting point is 00:38:28 It almost reminds me of like Bumbo, how it's like, I remember Bumbo. Yeah, it was just like, wait, this like side puzzle game related to the main thing that, why, what? And it's like, oh shit, pretty catchy. Where they're like, yeah, I think I have an idea for something fun. I am dreading with horror how difficult the game might get later on

Starting point is 00:38:50 when you have to handle problems, like visit buildings, and also find a way to get your units to break apart the rules of the world. Baba, as you, is... I hope we talk about it forever, because like it ignored the very first rule of light puzzle game design, which is not enough to have your players be smart, you have to make them feel smart.

Starting point is 00:39:11 Mm hmm. Cause Boba as you went and fucked that, I'm gonna make you feel like the dumbest idiot to ever live. But the reason why is because we're secretly trying to teach you coding. I felt like the game was actively attempting to hurt my feelings when I was playing Bob as you. It's just, you know, introduction to like the world logic and how you would

Starting point is 00:39:34 might go about building that. But then also again, the idea that you have objectives, but you also have the laws of God written in the sky and you can go and manipulate them to make the current objective easier. Yeah, do it both though, while piloting Baba. And of course, as you can imagine, Kiki and all the other characters are all full of character personality and everything, but Baba just says,

Starting point is 00:40:03 Ba, Ba, Ba, Ba, Ba. That's all Baba can do is sell, but Baba just says, ba, ba, ba, ba, ba. That's all Baba can do is sell, but I say, Baba. Baba can say, ba, ba, ba, ba, ba. Baba. Ba. I can't hate Baba. Baba's too sweet.

Starting point is 00:40:16 It's Baba can only buy. It's perfect. So yeah, I'm gonna, you know, again, I really just briefly touched it just to see what's going on. But fun with that concept and title. Also, fair warning to anyone, if you are gonna go check this out from the itch.io page, it activates Windows Defender because it identifies something that is a virus. Oh, yeah, tons of shit activates Windows Defender.

Starting point is 00:40:42 It is, to my knowledge, not a virus, and you're gonna have to go in and manually, you know, futs it to be able to deal with that. But right now, there's a weird thing that makes it auto-delete, so. Like I, I, Boba is malware. I downloaded a fucking OBS plug and to put a fucking countdown timer on my stream.

Starting point is 00:41:05 And when it was like, oh, it's unsigned, it's probably the... It's like it's all the official OBS forums and it's a fucking just a countdown timer. It puts a plug in, it's an OBS plug, like that'll the fuck out when it's a defender. That being said though, when you go to like, if you, any program that's been installed

Starting point is 00:41:23 on your computer for the last like 10 years that you go to reinstall from a new system or whatever, you go grab some VLC or you go grab gold wave whatever. Now there's a bunch of sites that will take it, pack in a bunch of adware and bullshit and spyware. Yeah, you will shit. And then re-host it on an official looking thing that's not actually official. Well, it's a really good thing that Windows Defender doesn't constantly, constantly, constantly give you loads of false positives so that when Windows Defender does warn you about that, you'll be like, oh, thanks Windows Defender, you saved my ass on this one. Awesome. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:41:56 More honestly, it's not about the download, it's about the website you're getting it from, right? There's a couple of those places, you know, CNET, whatever, download.com back in the day was like the thing. And to some degree, I'm sure I guess it still is maybe, but like just make sure the official website of the program is where you're getting it from and not some weird coupler. You know, yes, but Baba is a Bitcoin miner. Exactly. You never fucking know.

Starting point is 00:42:20 Yeah, I use malware bytes on all my computers. I have a subscription to malware bytes. And like Windows Defender, I will ignore. But when malware bytes is like, I don't know about that one. I'll take a like a really long hard look at it. Though occasionally will still throw it out in some false positives.

Starting point is 00:42:39 Man, that company really got itself in the door by simply A being free and B standing around while McCaffee else became awful. Yeah, and Norton just fucking murdered all of their clients and then shot themselves. Oh yeah, how became like Matt, Norton became malware. became malware itself. Like literally started doing the thing. Yeah, apps absolutely.

Starting point is 00:43:01 Um, McCaffee and Norton just so insane over insane over the years, just like, okay, are you not them? Cool. Um, anyway, uh, so there was that. And then yeah, I've spent about a good amount of time now going through, I think maybe most of Dredge, um, just, yeah, really great. This is just great. Really great, man. Um, the, the, the combination, yeah, I've said It's just great. Really great, man.

Starting point is 00:43:27 The combination, yeah, I've said it before, but the combination of peaceful sailing combined with the horrors of the deep is real good. It's just fun to pass time with to fix up your boat and what's that over there? And as the last thing I got was, I think it's harvest or reap or so. But basically I handed in,

Starting point is 00:43:53 is the power that lets you instantly fish a spot? You know what, will it, I beat that game 100%? Couldn't tell you a thing about it now. Okay. Like all those good, I remember all of its good vibes, but like the names of the abilities or any of the upgrades or most of the points that happen in that game story, gone, long gone.

Starting point is 00:44:16 Okay, okay. Just good vibes have remained. Yeah. That's fair. It's full of those. I also appreciated how the things I was talking about last week where it's like, okay, when do you start breaking the rules

Starting point is 00:44:30 of what you've established and stuff? Like as that starts to creep in, I'm like, hold on a minute, it's daytime, and I'm still paranoid and nervous, and my eyes are twitchy, and I'm like, uh-oh, and then you use some of your abilities or you don't sleep long enough, and then it's like, oh fuck, I'm actually hallucinating and it's broad daylight, you know, it's supposed to be safe right now. Why is it not safe? Yeah, so, um, and yeah, then the characters in the world start actually talking to you like, hey man, did you get any rest? Are you doing all right? You should probably sleep.

Starting point is 00:45:08 So sleep, will they go to sleep? Yeah, yeah, yeah, no, for sure. Good stuff, definitely enjoying. Like are you hallucinating? Are you seeing what's really there? Hmm, hmm. Well, if it's really there, but I don't have the ability to fight it, then maybe sleep is better. Yes.

Starting point is 00:45:30 You know, you get the meagerest of defenses for a brief period at some point eventually, but it's still nowhere near a like time to fight anything. You're a fucking fisherman. A lot of ways, like your option 99% of the time. Yeah. But I'm enjoying that. And, you know, the game also like stealthily just being like, yo, attach a case, you enjoy, right?

Starting point is 00:45:58 You like sliding and fitting things. Yes. All right, here you go. It's not even the point of it. Do you want like cool fish upgrades that that look like nightmares on your boat. Yeah. Ultra Chooks. That's cool. Yeah, one of the hooks is I think it's called like the trader, you know,

Starting point is 00:46:15 and it's just like it will bring its own to the surface. Yeah, super cool. Yeah, so just again, fucking phenomenal all around. I assume I'm close to the end, but then I know there's the DLC afterwards. Well, uh, there's, there's the four main areas. And then the DLC added a fifth main area. Cool. Yeah, all right.

Starting point is 00:46:36 I should go back and do the DLC for that. Yeah, I was, I was madly in love with Dredge when I was playing it. Uh, I, I could see that being something to pop on everyone's in a while and then just, you know, troll through a little bit. And, yeah, I mean, you know, I'll call it. That's pretty much it for me. Okay. Yeah, you've been busy.

Starting point is 00:46:56 I've been, well, I mean, holidays was me and the wife and the baby, right? Stayed in, didn't, a family's all far away. You know, my phone calls, did the video call. So mom can see the baby, you know, that kind of thing. But I decided, hey, why not just, because it's the holidays, why not just stream every single day? Let's just do the opposite instead.

Starting point is 00:47:25 And so what I've been doing is I bought like 20 fucking games on the steam sale. And I'm like, you know, the refund timer on these is two hours. So what if I played each of these for 90 minutes and saw which ones are worth keeping? Oh, Jesus Christ. We're playing Reefun Chicken. Oh yeah, we're playing Reefun Chicken. So here's the thing though. Like, despite the fact that I don't know many people

Starting point is 00:47:54 who actually like quantify and gamify the Reefun process, the actual like use case for the steam refund is buying something you wouldn't otherwise buy if you didn't have the security to give it back and go, oh, I do like it or oh, I hate this or does this run on my computer. Right. So like, let's, so I have a massive list of games that I fucked with. And the first one on the list is, by far, the easiest to, I picked it and did not know it was gonna prove the concept. So midnight suns is always on sale.

Starting point is 00:48:40 I don't know if you've noticed this. Oh. But ever since midnight suns came out, it has been like permanently on sale. Yes, that's right, the Marvel XCOM game, midnight suns. Every sale, it's like 50, 60% off every time, like even like a month or two after it came out, because it did not make the numbers that it needed to. So I asked like asked how is it?

Starting point is 00:49:05 And somebody said wait until all the DLC is out and then you'll be able to buy all the whole thing at once for like 30 bucks. So, sure enough, it's 70% off. So I waited till midnight's sons was out and with all the DLC and I've got it for 30 bucks and I hopped into it and hit the end of that timer and was like, I'm gonna play more of this

Starting point is 00:49:29 because it's been a long time since I've seen a game so aggressively failed by every single person responsible for telling you what the game is like. I have- In terms of marketing. Oh yeah. Like constant, like record scratch, feeling like exclamation of confusion

Starting point is 00:49:57 as to what that game actually is. Well Lee, what do you think midnight suns is? A bunch of Marvel characters in their new outfits are part of a team and you use them like an XCOM team to do those. Okay. To do emissions. So the part where it's actually a deck builder

Starting point is 00:50:21 with cards that didn't make it to you? Huh. Yeah, it's a deck builder. Okay. And you're actually moving the characters around on like an open field and you're loading in and you're like, oh, I got two blade cards and one more beis.

Starting point is 00:50:37 Do you think I can get the blade stacks from blade? Okay, okay, okay. Now, would you be confused when I showed you the hub world That you wander around in third person that you can use to talk to every single Marvel character in the game and Increase their social links and go out on friendship dates with them. Wow. Okay That could yeah, okay sure That could, yeah, okay, it's sure, sure. Are you playing, like, is your deck being played against an AI opponent's deck?

Starting point is 00:51:14 Or is it just, no, it's not. It's being played against the field. Okay. It's like, it's like first. And then the first character to talk to you when you make your O.C. is Blade and Blade's being voiced by Michael Gai White. And I'm like, that's perfect. That's pretty good. Perfect. Okay. Um, I know. So it's, it's not recruiting the different Marvel characters as much as it is unlocking

Starting point is 00:51:43 more cards to get their cards. No, you're, you are the different Marvel characters as much as it is unlocking more cards to get their cards. No, you are unlocking more Marvel characters and you are leveling up their friendship and their levels so that you can unlock better passive abilities and synergize their decks. Okay. On the game, like in the field, though, Xcoms happening.

Starting point is 00:52:05 No. There's no grid. Okay. It's actually, they're all complete, they're in like a big circle arena or square arena and you are moving like completely free movement and characters only, your whole team only gets one move and you're using that move to create knockback effects to throw people off cliffs or into explosive barrels or vault over things to do attacks.

Starting point is 00:52:34 What the fuck man? It is nothing. Nothing like what I thought it was. It's really good. Nice. Okay. Really And it's really good. Nice, okay. It's really, really, really good. There's no accuracy.

Starting point is 00:52:51 So is it just a matter of everyone is confused as to what this was? Like if it, I mean, wouldn't... It was like from the makers of XCOM and then they showed off like all these hero moments from the action game people. Right, sorry, the Marvel characters. And people thought it was like literally XCOM but with cards. Yeah, like instead of being able to choose like, instead of being able to choose like your attacks,

Starting point is 00:53:20 you would have to load in cards, but no, it's actually closer to like Marvel snap. Okay. Like, Runeterra. Yeah, you see, the devs are also probably responsible for like the self-gas light that comes with expecting it to be in the genre, because if the blade game came out and it turned out to be a first person puzzle game, you'd be like, but where's the dishonored?

Starting point is 00:53:43 Because it's so Because I hate I hate like deck builders. I hate them. I actually really like midnight sounds a lot I'm gonna be playing next week like a for realsie stream instead of you know Steam refund baby stream and I'm just like sitting there the whole time going like what I Watch trailers on this thing steam page and didn't know any of this. How did they drop it so bad? I feel like, I feel like, yeah, I've grown fond of slay the spire

Starting point is 00:54:16 and fights and tight spaces. Yeah. As very basic versions of that. It's also, it's gone. The thought I had was gone. Oh, no, it's bad. It's also really nice to play a game made by Faraxus that doesn't stutter and chug and fuck all over itself.

Starting point is 00:54:39 Like the weird little hitching that happens when you move around an XCOM or something like that, it's very slick. As long as you disabled the horrible 2K launcher, which is an abomination. Were you able to like get the feeling of like, despite I'm not knowing a Marvel thing here, this persona link is filled with fan service for all. Yeah. Right. So yeah, when I was talking to Dr. Strange and I was like, sanctum, whatever the fuck, that sounds stupid. And he got mad at me

Starting point is 00:55:06 and I got friendship points go down. Okay. So little bits of like, you know, narrator box, see issue 42. Oh, not quite that. But they do go through the process of explaining characters that you're probably a little less likely to know as to what the fuck or who the fuck they is.

Starting point is 00:55:27 I don't know who the fuck magic was and then people had the chat telling me it was Colossus's sister. Yeah, Iliana. She'd have used the screen for her all the time and then she turned into that. Yeah, no, it's really good. It's sad. That game just kind of bombed horribly. And oh, so hey, you know at the end of an X-Com mission, you have that feature that's like, do you want to pose your boys in like an action shot for like a poster? Oh, and the scores or whatever.

Starting point is 00:55:57 Yeah, so Midnight Suns does that automatically, but it's a comic book and it slaps all the characters that were in it into like a 2D- A spread realized, sprite comic book, and then you can go in and edit like what era you want it to look like or what you want the background image. It's cute.

Starting point is 00:56:15 It's very nice. So then yeah, so is it like, is it just a marketing fail for why this didn't actually fucking mean? Yeah, no, it seems excellent. Top to bottom, it's excellent. Yeah, anywhere. Top to bottom, it's just like, if nobody knew what the fuck it was

Starting point is 00:56:29 and what they thought it was was wrong. Like, I don't know anyone that even casually just went to go check it out, you know. I heard nothing about it. Because I remember- I saw screenshots of the costumes pre-release people going like, oh, look at these outfits.

Starting point is 00:56:42 And then that's the last I heard of it. I remember seeing like one of those things that happens with some games where, you know, is this good? And you get like a couple people going, I don't know. And like two guys being like, it's one of the best games that came out in its year. Nobody knows.

Starting point is 00:57:00 And you're like, huh, that's weird. Huh. Yeah, it's great. Yeah, you think one of huh, that's weird. Huh. You think it's great. Yeah, you think one of those people that always posts like random comic pages on the subreddit would like, would pop it and be like, hey, this game is actually pretty solid. It's great. Yeah, interesting. Okay.

Starting point is 00:57:18 I also played that night. I played a void to go. Would you ever play a... Void ago. Nuclear Throne. Oh, okay. A long time ago. Okay, void ago is a guy going, boy, I wish there was a newer, better nuclear throne.

Starting point is 00:57:37 That's what it is. Okay. Which also is gungeon-esque. Yeah, but it's like, hey, you want to run around and do a rogue-like where you do a top-down shooting with dual analog. There you go, that's a way to go. It's good.

Starting point is 00:57:54 Pass the test. Mm-hmm. It cut past the threshold. Absolutely. Okay. Also played something called Dome Keeper, which is a very simple rogue-like in which you play missile command on the top

Starting point is 00:58:06 and then you dig down into the earth to get your upgrade materials and you have to split your upgrades between making your missile command tower and your digging speed and various things better. It's good. It's cute, it's a good game. Cool arch style.

Starting point is 00:58:23 It's very simple. What's that? Cool arch style. Yeah, it's a good game. Cool art style. Very simple. What's that? Cool art style. Yeah, it's really good. I'm trying to fly through these, if I don't have super interesting stuff to say about them. It's kind of Metroid II specifically. A little bit. And then I played something called Void Stranger.

Starting point is 00:58:43 Have you seen people on the timeline talking about Void Stranger? Void Stranger. If you've seen people on the timeline talking about Void Stranger, Void Stranger, no. That's right. Another name with Void. Okay. Yes, it was a very weird coincidence. Um, seeing people, it's a gray scale like, Oh, linked to the past.

Starting point is 00:59:01 Very old-fashioned Game Boy looking game. Yeah. Or, yeah, I believe it is the second game by the zero-ranger guys okay, and I saw people talking that shit up like I couldn't believe and then I went into it and I had that that good undertail music if you know what I mean Yep, yep, and then I I walked a couple feet. Good chiptunes and

Starting point is 00:59:25 realized it was a fucking block puzzle game. Yeah, it looks like you're moving through like almost like a Pokemon or Zelda dungeon top view, pushing blocks and stepping on ice. Yep. And then I got I started to get upset. I started get I started to get. Oh, anxieties. Oh, this looks good to get a little panicky. Yeah. And I was like, no, no. So ended up refunding void stranger with a caveat of like, it's good though. No problem. I'm never gonna fucking play it again. No! Makes my brain feel small. Yeah, yeah, God forbid. All right.

Starting point is 01:00:12 No, get out of here. Don't make me feel stupid, I hate you. Why, why, why again, that makes me feel stupid? Oh, I love a game that makes me feel stupid. Ah, fucking, absolutely. Be 18 steps ahead of me so that I can't overthink it and predict it. Game, game should give me happy feelings all of the time, man. Every day, good vibes only. This brings joy. Well, this looks pretty cool.

Starting point is 01:00:44 It is. But it's not for me Now let's see what else we got if you see Robo quest Robo quest that sounds almost like an old GB color fighting game it really does no Robo quest is made by Some people who I guess decided that they liked the shooting in borderlands and Destiny, but they wanted to make a Roguelike game And they were disappointed that that didn't exist So they did it and it is a Roguelike where you shoot like Destiny or Borderlands and it feels really really really fucking goddamn good and

Starting point is 01:01:23 The soundtrack is good. And it runs well, and it's got great controls. And it's great. Okay. I feel like it's great. This yellow robot design, I feel like I've seen that head before. It's also French as fuck. Like it's not in French like he's in. Oh, yeah. Okay. And you you can tell you know how you get it

Starting point is 01:01:47 So it's one of the fastest I've ever been able to call the country a game was made in because I went to the options And everything was in English, but then I get to the controller options and it says vibrations With a check marker or not sure sure and I'm like oh A French person put that fucking plural. And sure enough, it was absolutely made by the francophones because adding too many plurals is a simple language mistake. Evie, but that's still. Yeah, roboquest is incredible. I can't recommend it enough to everyone. It will, if you like shooting in Roblox. Okay.

Starting point is 01:02:28 Looking at the trailer here, yeah, seeing some combos, good movement, weapon switching. Feels good to shoot the gun. Feels excellent to shoot the gun. Is it like, challenge stages or like long? Oh, it's actually like, it's like one long run, like room to room to room to room.

Starting point is 01:02:46 Okay. Like the first, like the ruins, no, not the, or the desert area. Yeah, the desert area goes on for like 20 minutes. Okay. And then you go on to level two. Which is way harder, way harder. I played last faith,

Starting point is 01:03:04 which is a very, very interesting, visually fantastic Metroidvania that is clearly very inspired by souls and that it has the exact same stats as souls, has good combat, cool setting, cool voice acting, a little derivative. It feels like it came right out after right after Blasmas. Yeah, I'm also getting vibes of a couple other things

Starting point is 01:03:34 looking at this. Yeah, I was. Is that just the lost arc logo? No, it's not lost arc. What is it? Is it lost so the side? Yeah, there's something with that with anyway. And there's all there, yeah.

Starting point is 01:03:50 So I played that for about, I don't know, 40 minutes. And was like, this feels really good. And then I missed time to jump. And like, one of my feet pixels touched a spike. And I instant died and went back to the the bonfire equivalent. Okay. And did you play through Blastphemous One? No, not to completion.

Starting point is 01:04:12 Okay, so I played through Blastphemous One and Hollow Knight and people who watch those LPs can confirm that I died maybe 10 times more often to pits and spikes than enemies or bosses. And I got like a little twinge in my chest of like, I can't do another side scrolling Metroidvania with this many instant death pits. I can't do it. It's too much for me. I'm also seeing like I mean while there's blast from us there

Starting point is 01:04:48 There's also death scamp it. There's a good bit of that in there which is it. I don't think a lot of Yeah, like it like I I spent I played best gambit for longer than I really expected to Um, okay. It's one of these the last faith Mm-hmm also played uh the eternal cylinder which is a really expected to. Okay, it's one of these, the last faith. I also played the Eternal Cylinder, which is a, so you know the guys who make the Xenoclash games? Oh, right, right, right.

Starting point is 01:05:15 And everything they make is like a nightmare. Well, this is about you playing as a blower bow that looks like a qubert freak running on an alien freak planet to not get run over by a rolling pin that's destroying the earth. I don't mind. That sounds like a great game to try out. Except when I started playing it, I realized that it's actually like, like, spore, like, like, huddle your little mass of quiberts and make sure to eat the right food so you can jump up to the next area or, or yell at the, at the giant mouth with legs. It's called last cylinder. The, uh, it's called nothing's popping up for that.

Starting point is 01:06:05 The Eternal Cylinder. Eternal Cylinder. Um... Yeah, it's kind of like Spore Pickman. Um... And it's so interesting and so inventive. And it's also a complete nightmare and I was having like no fun.

Starting point is 01:06:23 Yeah. Okay, toilet creatures and horrible shouldn't exist beings Complete nightmare and I was having like no fun Yeah, okay Toilet creatures and horrible shouldn't exist beings with their organs sticking out and their place things in the wrong place. Yeah Okay, so like It's got like this real energy of like this is so cool From over there AI wanted to be cool far away from me AI generated monsters with the mouth on the bat on the bottom. Oh, I don't think those are AI generated. I think those are all, but somebody's brain.

Starting point is 01:06:53 But that is, but like something, something putting everything in the wrong place. I see it, and I see the little, the little cube earth thing. Yeah, okay. I also played, um, Yeah, okay. I also played Tales of Iron and Neon Abyss that I'm not gonna talk about anymore

Starting point is 01:07:12 because they both have bad controls. Ha ha ha. They both just have bad controls. And it's kind of sad. Okay, but goodbye. And last but not least, do you ever play Nova Drift? No. Okay, it's asteroids and vampire survivors.

Starting point is 01:07:37 Sure. That's a good problem. That's it. That's all I need to tell you. Nothing wrong with that. all I need to tell you nothing wrong with that um And I played um BPM have you played BPM? Oh BPM. Yeah the other rhythm shooter um

Starting point is 01:07:56 I don't know how I feel about BPM Fuck What was um what was the other one called his bullets per minute and mental Helsinger mental Helsinger. Yeah, yeah Yes, I did some bpm. I did play yeah so like It's so ugly The colors the color I knew yeah, I know the colors are The gonna be the issue ultimately for you. It's so

Starting point is 01:08:24 So ugly like it's it's fun., so ugly, like it's fun, and it's inventive, but it's like actively hideous. Yeah, the piss filter aggression is pretty high. It's a stylistic choice and it probably would have been better without it. Apparently the reason for the really intense filter is because it uses assets from a canceled MOBA. Oh, called Paragon. Okay. So that would make it look as different as possible. It's a way to like make it up.

Starting point is 01:08:57 Escaped it. Oh, that's not, yeah, that's not a good reason to make it look like that. Now, I mean, it does, the colors do change from area to area at the very least, so it's not just the orange yellow fucking, you know, hew the whole time. And I think, here's the other, the issue with it too, is like, when you're doing, so let's call this duotone, right? Like, you'll, there'll be two major vibrant colors that are kind of like the point. Usually, like, compliment our our right next to each other.

Starting point is 01:09:28 You wanna have a lot of blacks as well to make it so that it's contrast and addition to the color that the colors that you see. Yeah, it doesn't. It doesn't use a lot of blacks. It uses just the orange and the yellow together for every orange, which is like 80% of all things. Secondary is yellow, which is 15% of the remaining.

Starting point is 01:09:49 And black is only for far away darkness or like some outlines. Some areas are much darker than others admittedly. Like you go through it and you'll see the like the darker dungeon-ish parts where shadows are being used more out more frequently. But a lot of it is just kind of relying on two bright colors and not playing enough with that. Yeah. Then I got to like the second zone and it was like green instead of yellow and I was like, oh.

Starting point is 01:10:14 That being said, the rhythm and the music of the shooting and everything is awesome. But the gameplay is my personal taste. To the beat is fun. But like I was actually like, I played a good deal of metal Helsinger and I might go back to it. There's no vocals in BPM. And that's intentional because it's a rogue-like.

Starting point is 01:10:38 So admittedly, so metal Helsinger came out afterwards, right? Yeah, two years later. Yeah, so I never went back and played that. I just played BPM early a while ago. or came out afterwards, right? Yeah, two years later. Yeah, so I never went back and played that. I just played BPM early a while ago. So I never got the comparison. And I see some people are saying metal-housing are better than BPM.

Starting point is 01:10:55 That's a play as good, but I personally don't agree with that. But, okay, so gameplay less, but vocals and music are better, because it's like actual full track, the actual tracks. Well, I like the vocals and I like the music and the Helsinger way more. Okay. That's kind of a deal breaker. Then yeah, the music is the name of the game ultimately. I liked what I was hearing there, but there was a whole point to when these were both announced where I wanna say that it was like, who stole from who? What happened exactly?

Starting point is 01:11:32 I was saying or stole from BPM. Okay. And- I'll sing or came out many years after. I feel like someone, or I feel like I might have read an article or saw somewhere a discussion about this that kind of showed that it was kind of both, it was parallel thinking and

Starting point is 01:11:52 that there were both being developed at the same time or something. There was some defense against that idea that popped up, but it was years ago, so I don't fully recall. Yeah, the other thing is like, it's all depending to taste. Like, yeah, Helsinger has its vocals, and those vocals are about jumping on a dragon and shooting the wizard and all that power metal shit.

Starting point is 01:12:20 And I like that stupid shit, but if you don't like that stupid shit, oh, fuck. Yeah. Okay. So if the aesthetics and the music are not matching up to what you got with Helsinger, then I get that. Do this. Helsinger have the like movement, though, to it, like with this.

Starting point is 01:12:42 Okay. The sides. That the same movement, the reloading. Okay. I mean, they both. That's the same movement. The reloading and the okay. They both have like the exact same mechanics. Like that you fire on the beat or the offbeat depending on the weapon. You can jump and double jump on the beat and the offbeat and you can dash on the beat or the offbeat. Okay, because what what made BPM feel good is the dodging on the beat as well.

Starting point is 01:13:02 You know, the defense on the beat. feel good is the dodging on the beat as well. You know, the defense on the beat. Um, as you can, I believe they both have the option of like, it won't even allow you to do things off beat. It'll just, it'll just tank your score. Okay. God, it's been too long. Like, you can't chain dodges and Helsinger unless they're on the beat Okay, you don't you can't do a failed dodge. It's yeah, okay, you just lose for it Um, is it just score that you lose or does the effect of the thing also change? I can't quite remember okay Fair enough. That's all the shit I played on the steam sale I kept about of them, and I'm gonna keep doing that all week until I run out of shit that was on sale.

Starting point is 01:13:49 The only other thing that the tough note is... Played that Robocop game. Oh shit. I got a code for Robocop Rogue City. Also nothing like what I thought that game was. Did you shoot some creeps? Well, like, okay, I'm gonna ask you, if you were gonna compare Robocop Rogue City,

Starting point is 01:14:19 a game that I don't think you've even seen, to any other game. I watched the trailer for it. Yeah, yeah, okay. What do you think that game is like trying to be? When I watched the trailer, I thought it could play like a really dumbed down human revolution. Well, you're right.

Starting point is 01:14:42 That's what it is. Okay. You do your shooty mission and then they dump you out into the small open world of a couple city blocks and Have RoboCop walking around issuing parking tickets and going on side quests. There you go. Yeah, okay It's really good It's they got they got Peter Weller, um, to do the voice. Um, it takes place right after a robot cop to, um, it's satirical as fuck. Yeah, when we, um, when I, when I brought it up, um, when the trailer dropped, it was like, that was one of the big things is like, okay, they're trying to be as faithful as possible,

Starting point is 01:15:23 but it still looks like the, the, the, the, the quality of the models things is like, okay, they're trying to be as faithful as possible, but it still looks like the quality of the models in the game looks pretty janky. So yeah, it looks like a PS2 game. You know, like you're you're coming late with a faithful Robocop game, but yeah, it just, you know what it is? A couple of gens too late. It feels like an old PS2 game that was made in the vein of the PS2 version of Deus X1. Okay, right? Okay. A very specific world and model quality. Yeah. It's really good though of note like almost humorous note is that the shooting sections don't play like a regular shooter Because your robocop It's insanely easy you just walk through and it's target and last

Starting point is 01:16:18 Like well man you you like lock on and everybody, it does that tracking thing on everybody in the vicinity. And you just light them up and you are taking like pitly damage. Yeah. Robyn, you can, and this is the part that matters. Like you have a walking speed that's like accurate Robocop walking speed. And then you have a sprint that is still slower

Starting point is 01:16:47 than a human being's regular walking speed. Nice. Like, you are slow as fuck. Robocop does not stealth or hide behind walls, right? No. That's not the way. And you're also learning skills on your skill point, your robo skill point meter. So you can increase your deduction skills or your social skills or your armor skills.

Starting point is 01:17:14 Are there any like encounters like hostage negotiation? Yeah, you breach rooms and have to save all the hostages. Cool. And it goes into slow mode. You gotta shoot all the guys before they get all the hostages. Cool. It goes into slow-mo and you've got to shoot all the guys before they get all the hostages. Yeah, all right, that's cool. That's pretty much all I'd expect.

Starting point is 01:17:31 Someone asked in the chat, and it's a great question, can you stab people with your knife USB? Not to my knowledge. However, when you walk up to people, you can hit the A button to just pick them up by the neck. And then they just become a projectile that you throw with the with the right bumper and You just like just push throw them like at like a hundred MPH Like they're a barrel and like fucking dark Messiah of might magic sick

Starting point is 01:18:02 That's cool No any 2014 costume DLC? I don't think so. That I wouldn't know. Um, last but not least, the only thing I'm gonna say, boy, that one piece fucking flies by when you read it. I'm almost caught up to where I'm really reading like one volume a day, and I am already almost caught up

Starting point is 01:18:30 to where I stopped watching the anime, and that was 250 fucking episodes. Nice. So one volume per how many episodes? 10 or 15. Like it's bad, It's really bad. In particular, I got to Drum Island, which is where you meet Chopper, the little reindeer man. And I remember that was when the anime started to kill me in my heart, because that's one

Starting point is 01:19:01 the flashback shit would start flashbacking to shit that had happened in the episode that you're watching. Right, right. Like the beginning of the episode would start to show up at the end of the episode as a flashback. That's a moment. And it was like, I can't, I can't fucking do that. Oh my god. I forgot which show I saw that in. That was among the most egregious. Yeah. Yeah. Oh my God. I forget which show I saw that in. That was among the most egregious. Yeah, yeah. Just also, you know, Apple's an orange is,

Starting point is 01:19:29 but in terms of just compressing a volume into an animated form, but just appreciation for Pluto, one to one, you know. The idea of a volume is an episode. So I tell you, so good. What happened when I started reading monster? What happens maybe. Okay, so I watched monster a long time ago and I was like,

Starting point is 01:19:51 man, I love monster monsters incredible. Amazing. And I'm like, how you know what? I'll read monster and then I'll get like a better appreciation of monster. And then I read the first volume of monster and I was like, this is fucking pointless, because the anime is a panel panel.

Starting point is 01:20:08 It's so faithful. Shot or shot remake of the manga. Right, okay. Like every single panel is turning to a scene shot or establishing shot, and every single line of dialogue is there. It's like, oh wow, this is the most pointless thing to go back to after watching the show.

Starting point is 01:20:25 It's got music and color. Like, yeah. That's it. Yeah, yeah, okay. I also am starting to discover something about Oda's writing style, which I find to be totally fascinating. And that is, I'm sure, so we make fun of Grim, right? Because Grim wants to plan everything

Starting point is 01:20:43 and everything needs to fit everything into a tight little package. And what would this character do? Ah, and I'm reading one piece and like around, ish, volume 13, 14, something like that. I turned a page and I'm like, oh, to change his mind about where the story was going in between

Starting point is 01:21:07 these two pages. These two pages. These two pages. These two pages. These two pages. These two pages. These two pages. These two pages.

Starting point is 01:21:16 These two pages. These two pages. These two pages. These two pages. These two pages. These two pages. These two pages. These two pages.

Starting point is 01:21:24 These two pages. These two pages. These two pages. These two pages. These two pages. These two pages. These two pages. These two pages. These two pages. These two pages. These two pages. These two pages. These two pages. These two pages. These two pages. These two pages. These two pages. These two pages. These two pages. These two pages. These two pages. These two pages. These two pages. These two pages. These two pages. These two pages. These two pages. These two pages. These two pages. These two pages. These two pages. These two pages. These two pages. These two pages. These two pages. These two pages. These two pages. These two pages. These two pages. These two pages. These two pages. These two pages. These two pages. These two pages. These two pages. These two pages. These two pages. down, like they put their hair down. And then you turn the page again, and like the entire narrative has now done a 90 degree turn to go into a completely different storyline for like a year. And I was like, this feels like the most like I've changed my mind shit I've ever seen in anything. So I went to social media and like asked people, did Oda just change his mind in the middle of this chapter? And the answer I got back was, yes, their editor looked at a character with their hair down and said, hey, why don't you do that? And Oda went, that's a great idea.

Starting point is 01:21:57 And then just more, and just shifted the whole fucking thing over to incorporate this change that their editor offhandedly mentioned one time. There's one of those, one of those happens in Vagabond where this is a character who basically comes to the end of his story arc while they're jumping around to everybody and they're like, and this person, for this character only, we're going to jump forward into the future and just show you their peaceful

Starting point is 01:22:25 ending. But then we're gonna come back to it. And then we're gonna occasionally mess around and just, we'll jump back and forth and really, hey, what are you up to over there? And you're like, okay, you decided to not commit to that long, slow fade out. So it's fascinating because like one piece is definitely, out. So it's fascinating, cause like one piece is definitely, it feels like it was written week to week.

Starting point is 01:22:52 And the only absolute die hard things that Oda wants to hold onto is where the characters will end. Yeah, which I know that was the case with, that's what I was told was it was the case with a full metal alchemist while it was being written as with attack on Titan. Right. And there was just like, I know the ending and I know the start and we'll find our way there. So it seems to be like a many mangaka do that kind of thing.

Starting point is 01:23:22 Cause like I remember hearing people talk about it when the Wano arc started. And it now I realized that maybe they were right where like Wano though the one that just happened, the one where they're not Japan, they're in fake Japan. Mm-hmm. For like 30 fucking volumes, people were joking that like, oh, Oda doesn't want to write pirates anymore.

Starting point is 01:23:47 He wants to write a fucking samurai story. I meant, yeah, sure. I guess that's what happened. It reminds me when you're reading Hunter Hunter and all of a sudden the author goes, I would like to make Yukio instead of Hunter Hunter. And then you're watching Yukio for like 50 episodes. You're like, what? I mean, there's always that part of me that like you try to just, it's like you know that deep down when something is successful

Starting point is 01:24:26 here, you got to keep it going. And you still want to tell a good story, but it's in your interest to keep you and every one of your assistants fed and paid for as long as possible. You know, and there's a question as to like how long you can stretch that while keeping the quality of the content high many Manga are not able to do so but giant distracting wildly tangential Arks are I mean that's that's I guess as long as it's good and at the end it's with mean something, you know sure

Starting point is 01:25:04 Hmm So yeah, that one piece is great to read. I love it It means something, you know, sure. So yeah, that one piece is great to read. I love it. Good, good read, way better read. It's still like sprinting by. Like it's like nice, yeah. It's reputation as like a slog because of the anime is like depressing because it is like, where I'm at anyway, it's going as like a slog because of the anime is like depressing because it is like, where I'm at anyway, it's going as like as fast

Starting point is 01:25:29 as it can possibly go on every page. Yeah, well, I mean, so in general, the speed of reading is like a lot of us on how long you linger on a given spread, right? Yeah, no, it doesn't. It doesn't linger on shit. I mean, I was talking like, like, chainsaw man, that was one afternoon, like I hit the limit

Starting point is 01:25:47 and didn't realize how fast I got there, you know? So the density of the words and like how often you have again, like visual moments to take in can really just make it, make should go fast. We grew up in a time when people would go to the bookstore, sit out with their dragon ball copy and just read it for in the 20 minutes they had, you know, on lunch break and then go back to school. Like, I think I mentioned it the last time I talked about it, but like the one piece manga is going so fast that he's just making entirely separate chapters out of the cover pages of individual chapters.

Starting point is 01:26:27 Yeah, yeah, yeah. Which were never animated, which apparently causes some confusion if you're only watching the anime because characters will come back years later. Very different. But you've been following it in the chapter titles. Yeah, but those chapters were never animated.

Starting point is 01:26:49 So the person just comes back out of nowhere and goes, hey, I'm back. So like, Buggies are really good example, right? Buggies, so right after where the TV show ended, the live action, Buggie comes back. And he goes, hey, I'm buggy, haha, right? Which is a big surprise if you're watching the anime, but not if you're reading the manga because he had 25 pages of bonus chapters spread out on the covers as to what he was doing.

Starting point is 01:27:22 Like, mm-hmm. Yeah, so it's good. Oh, crap. Oh, crap. Probably caught up by next week. No, no, I'm not caught up to where you were. Like you were not caught up to caught up completely. Oh, yeah. Yeah, okay.

Starting point is 01:27:43 All right. If you want to see more games that I may refund on the channel go down to twitch.tv slash pat stares at Yeah, that's on the twitch.tv Yeah, this week on willy versus gonna be Yeah doing that last session of ff9 and probably going back to some more sacred and terrible air for a quick one two on Wednesday and Thursday. And then Saturday, I get into fighting games, but I'll decide on what, because there's a couple of indie games I wanted to check out, but there's some good strife that we've been lacking and that would be fun to get back to.

Starting point is 01:28:21 Man, the updates to that game and the new moves everyone's gotten and the new systems and everything have really changed it. It's- It's gonna play some rounds with fake ass character Felt. Fake ass L-Felt. Um, the, uh, I mean, the- the- just seeing when we were doing commentary on, um, on the top 8 and like Axel has a new tornado move that is just aggressively, just makes his whole play style

Starting point is 01:28:50 different. Like he lames it out in a completely different way. And yeah, just the new wild assault and deflect shield mechanics as well are like it's not just oh a new thing that you'll see every once in a while it's like every system every round every like people are constantly using these new mechanics they're aggressively a part of the game now they change the game drastically so that's good you know when a new system gets involved and and it gets ignored then it's kind of ultimately stupid because it's just like

Starting point is 01:29:25 what was the point of this? It gives some options limited circumstances. But here when they come out and go, this system is going to change the whole game. And then like a couple of years later, you're like, oh, this is here. Yeah, exactly. I don't even know that. Yeah. You're meanwhile like now, like it basically breaded butters for a lot of characters are drastically different because of the wild assault. And May is jumping off the dolphin all the time your meanwhile like now like it basically breaded butters for a lot of characters are drastically different because of the wild assault and May is jumping off the dolphin all the time because she can do that now. Tootsu Geck nope. So yeah some of that coming up over on Holy Versus. Let's take a quick break. Hey, quick word from our sponsors. I love you sponsors.

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Starting point is 01:36:18 the Nintendo employees kid who was behind the Smash Brothers 3DS roster leaks. Someone worked in Nintendo, and they had their son was able to access the files that showed off who was gonna be in the Smash Brothers. Because they left their laptop open at home. And that of course led to them sharing with their friends, which led to their friends then going and posting about it online and from it.

Starting point is 01:36:44 My dad works in Nintendo. Literally from my dad works in Nintendo to Forchan to then it spreads. And unfortunately that, that, you know, once the Nintendo figures that out, that person gets fired because of course, that's what happens, right? The, that is usually the way we kind of find out

Starting point is 01:37:04 about these things and you're like, oh, wow, that's some wild news. Here's some artwork of the characters or whatever is going on. Of course, the difference between that and the... Literally, every single thing we're going to talk about now is the part where the people, the motives of the people involved aren't necessarily to just drop these, hey, did you know that Little Mac is gonna be in Smash Bros.

Starting point is 01:37:29 It's like actual criminals who are putting out passport information for people who work at Insomniac, for example. They're like, hey, you know what you should do? We have all this information. You should just pay us millions of dollars and then we'll give it back to you. So something like this happened to Capcom last year,

Starting point is 01:37:44 I think it was, and that, you, and the result of that was just like, yeah, you're hearing about some announcements for entailers and footage for things because essentially they get their servers compromised. They, the packers basically exfiltrate gigs and gigs of the entire server, lock it down so that they can't access the internet. And then there's a Bitcoin ransom essentially.

Starting point is 01:38:06 And then they'll show up samples of their data to show you, like, here's what we have access to and stuff. And then we'll return it to you. And every single time those files don't just include, you know, the games that you're talking about, but it also includes password information, full-dawksing of people's and ruining of people's lives potentially out to the public, you know. So that happened to Insomniac as well. And if you've been hearing about, you know,

Starting point is 01:38:29 things about the Wolverine game or the fact that, you know, oh, sunset overdrive only made like 500 bucks or whatever the case is, it's all because it's packed inside there with this other like life-rooting shit that these hackers have been putting out there as they're trying to extort Insomniac. Yeah, it's just like with the Capcom thing, it's like, I think there's a general,

Starting point is 01:38:57 there's a vibe you get that everyone's kind of aware of where they're like, oh, it's not like, yeah, yeah, cool, fun video game leaks. But when people's lives are being fucking destroyed because of like passport docs and social insurance numbers and all that coming out, it's like those things are not being treated the same way. You know, the rumors are not really being like, hey, everyone, go check out those files and download them and be sure to go look and see for yourself that footage because these are people that are fucking having to scramble to save what they can of their security and their privacy and that shit's fucking garbage every time.

Starting point is 01:39:35 And of course, there's also the thing where you never know, like, does paying off this, there's a ransom actually lead to you getting your shit back or can they or maybe, you know, would they just put it out anyway? Yeah. If they feel like it is the answer. Yeah. So some, you know, like some say that like the Somali pirate like code is, is there, they honor their hostages because like are they are they honor their hostage deals because

Starting point is 01:40:03 if you actually break the rules that no one else will be willing to pay you ever again. So the whole ransom only works if you actually give people the thing or whatever, but you never fucking know, man. You literally never know. I don't know, man. That always assumes the people who are committing a felonies for profit are thinking multiple steps ahead

Starting point is 01:40:24 to their future. Of course. Committing more felonies for profit are thinking multiple steps ahead to their future. Of course. Committing more felonies for profit. Not just the short-sighted impulsive nature of what it is. But yeah, that's basically what happened within Somniac. And then from that, directly to the rock star stuff as well, because the rock star one gets even more nuts, because that was a leak that happened a while ago. In particular, there was the,

Starting point is 01:40:57 yes, okay, there's two parts to this. One, the source code for GTA V apparently. That's the new leak. Is currently happening alongside GTA 6 Python code, as well as bully two files. People were able to confirm that they canceled 8 DLCs for GTA 5 and a bunch of other stuff that was a part of that.

Starting point is 01:41:19 Yeah, no, they canceled bully two. They canceled 8 GTA 5 DLCs and something else. So they could do GTA online. GTA Online was more profitable than working on the extended campaigns and sessions. One of those was GTA Tokyo. Well, I mean, dollars and dollars to dollars and sense the sense, man, if GTA Online is where role players are currently fucking spending bank to Keep that shit online then they're gonna keep their workforce push towards that service than the single player shit

Starting point is 01:41:54 You know like yeah, they were these redirected all their efforts from from that it is so it would seem but the wilder part of this from before was the guy who released the GTA 6 trailer. Like so what we saw was like, oh GTA 6 trailer is online, someone hacked it, someone hacked in and was able to get it off their servers. And then they basically responded by releasing it officially within an hour or two, right? Just being like, okay, well fuck it. We're in our way.

Starting point is 01:42:32 Yeah, which is, you know, ultimately that's the response that does make sense providing that the footage is actually done, you know, although people do always show off the side-by-side comparisons to go like, yeah, here's red dead in the trailer, here's red dead in the final. Like it's still looks a lot better later on. What then came out afterwards was that the hacker in particular was already on probation and he leaked, he hacked into Rockstar and leaked that footage when he was out on bail for pre-hacking Nvidia and BTE and he was staying at a hotel under police protection and during that time he managed to carry out the rock star hack with an Amazon fire stick a smart phone a keyboard and a mouse And the TV in his hotel room fucking insane, right a fire stick So This is then this this kid is a

Starting point is 01:43:39 Had on a time of it. Yeah, so First of all of note there are an adults, there are 18 years old, which is why their name is out there, but I don't really feel any particular need to use it. This guy has been sentenced to an indefinite hospital order. are because of apparently he was violent in custody and the, and the, yeah, I guess in violation is inviolating the probation, he continued to indicate that he would continue out cyber attacks and would want to continue doing so again. So there's a, uh, uh, so I dug into this a little bit. It's, it's very complicated because the first thing that you see

Starting point is 01:44:26 is Guy Hacked, Grant F.Dotto in jail forever. Yeah. There is a logic to it and it's very sad. I'm curious because I'm hearing about that. That sounds like the most fucked up type of thing. All right, so to get first things things first that for some reason it's not being reported in these news stories, but it is like a matter of record.

Starting point is 01:44:51 He also like stalked women in the past. That's also part of the the the guys desire to commit crimes. So he hacked Nvidia and got caught. And then on bail, hacked Rockstar. Right. And they then arrested him again. And his bailors were voked.

Starting point is 01:45:19 And he got mental health evaluation because he's got very severe autism. And the answer, the question was whether or not he's competent to stand trial. And the answer is, I'm not super sure how the British system works, but he is not competent enough to judge his intent. Only whether or not he did it. So he was judged guilty as that he did absolutely do it, red handed. And then in subsequent mental health evaluations, he attacked staff and everybody at the jail

Starting point is 01:46:01 and broke a bunch of shit. And then in his evaluation, the way that it is written in these news articles is he expressed a desire to get out of jail and immediately resume his hacking activities, which judging what I know about like the evaluation of somebody who's on trial and has like an autism diagnosis likely what happened is they said what are you going to do when you get out of jail and

Starting point is 01:46:34 He said I am going to start hacking things again as soon as I am out of jail. Mm-hmm, and they went You can't do that. And he said, I am going to hack things as soon as I am out of jail. Yeah. So, yeah. So, the other thing is that the way this is worded here is it says he's required to stay in hospital prison

Starting point is 01:47:01 for life unless doctors determine that he's no longer a danger. Is this the type of wording that is basically, to stay in hospital prison for life unless doctors determine that he's no longer a danger. Is this the type of wording that is basically like, is it a matter of there have been other cases like this? And typically, there is a point at which they go through, I guess, the system and there are doctors that evaluate that they are no longer a danger or are there people who have been put under this that have basically locked up for life, and they're not are still under that, because I still can't see how like your life, a life sentence is like that seems insane.

Starting point is 01:47:38 So it's a really strange interaction of the mental health profession and the justice system. So it's like parole, right? So say you get 30 years and you could have parole with good behavior for 15, right? It becomes your job to convince your parole board that you are changed after 15 years so that they go, oh, further attempts at rehabilitation. So further jail time or prison time would be pointless on a societal thing. So we'll let you out early, right? Because there's no reason to keep you in jail, right? This is why it's such a big deal in the justice system

Starting point is 01:48:26 that people admit and take responsibility for their guilt in the parole system. Because if you won't even admit that you did it, you obviously haven't come to terms with it, so we can't parole you, which obviously falls apart if the person actually didn't do it, you now have to perform falls apart if the person actually didn't do it,

Starting point is 01:48:47 you now have to perform a like, contrition for something that you didn't do because you were wrongfully convicted. Yadda, yadda, yadda. The mental health system is similar. There are people who are very mentally ill. And if you are determined that you had a schizophrenic episode or a bipolar manic episode, and that caused you to crash your car

Starting point is 01:49:09 through the wall of your ex-girlfriends house, right? They're gonna sit you down and evaluate you, and they're gonna be like, listen, you know you have to take your pills so that you don't crash your car through your ex-girlfriends house. And if the answer that comes back is, I fucking hate taking my pills, I'm never going to take my pills, then letting them out of the mental hospital means you are essentially

Starting point is 01:49:34 just rolling the dice every single day as to whether or not they're going to do something crazy. Right. So is there, I guess, if the idea is that the beginning steps of rehabilitation in this case aren't necessarily going to work because the person is not even remotely close to accepting that part of it. And if there's nothing you can do besides keep them away from the things they will use, I guess, to... Well, if we're talking about, like, shit, like, stalking added to another's one, which

Starting point is 01:50:01 I didn't know about, That's another dynamic that is directly endangering other people beyond just hacking and whatnot, which takes another level of travel. It's having no, that this guy is part of a hacking group that does like extortion hacking. Like this isn't just, I found video game information. It's the personal information, ransom shit

Starting point is 01:50:22 that we were describing earlier. But it is real damage to real people. But yeah, but I think the eyebrow rays at the incarcerated for life, kind of sentence is warranted, given that it's like, there's a fun, by a fun, I mean, kind of depressing, but goofy variation to this.

Starting point is 01:50:49 So if you happen to be, if you get to dodge the criminal justice system and instead interact with the mental health system during your sentencing, i.e. I had a fugue state. I went through a manic episode. I was in the middle of a sky'soid break. I was suffering from this associative identity disorder at the time, et cetera, right? You're going to be moved out of culpability and into treatment, but treatment can last forever, right? So much like convincing your parole board that you're rehabilitated, it now becomes your responsibility to convince your doctors that you're no longer crazy, or at least no longer crazy enough to commit crimes. This has a very unfortunate side effect for guys like this in particular,

Starting point is 01:51:42 because if he has severe autism and he's hacking all the time, he probably has a fairly pronounced social deficit, which means him lying to his doctor is going to be a lot harder than the average person. Yeah, so I guess the question is, right, if the term is not for life, but it's if it's indefinite. Are, is there going to be a situation where the person is, like, not any better, and we fast forward a couple of years, and they're still inside the system here. Is there a point where the doctors and caretakers that are involved with them eventually move them into something that is not quite

Starting point is 01:52:28 a fully incarcerated but a, like, you have perhaps not no access to computers or things that you would use to further perpetrate, but there's still, like, it's complicated in this particular instance, because if you read it carefully, he's not in a mental hospital. He's in the hospital ward of the prison,

Starting point is 01:52:51 which is different because the reason why he's not in a psychiatric facility, which sucks, but is instead in the hospital ward of the prison, which sucks way worse, is because he attacked all those people while in processing and in jail. Trying to convince your once every six months shrink that comes to evaluate you that you're not going to commit crimes when you're receiving no treatment in prison.

Starting point is 01:53:30 He's not going anywhere. Probably not. Yeah, I guess it just, you know, I like I understand how the like insane specific, specific nature of this creates a situation that seems like you can't begin to really fix the issue. It's just the bottom line ends up going back to, and but does that result in his life being taken away, right? Yeah, probably.

Starting point is 01:53:51 You know, part of getting out of jail is telling people you're not gonna commit crimes anymore. Mm. And if this is something that happens in the UK, like, because this is a particular to there, I'm like, what's the precedent for this like, and are there other versions of it that you can see similar examples before with what indefinite usually kind of turns into?

Starting point is 01:54:13 But I would say that this guy's best shot at actually getting out of jail is to acclimate to his current situation so that he's not having violent outbursts, at which point he might be able to be transferred to a psychiatric facility. And then stay there long enough that he gets released on budget cuts

Starting point is 01:54:35 to that psychiatric facility. I think Christal mighty. That I genuinely think that is his best shot at getting out of jail. That's fucking disgusting. And yeah, the, yeah, the version of it where you increase the, again, you introduce stalking and like again, the violent nature of everything that was being reported

Starting point is 01:54:58 there into the situation, changes how particularly bad you're gonna feel for someone who's like that, right? It's just what's the, you know, yeah, is there a point where they kind of go like, well, there's not much we can do here, like, shut the key, turn and forget about it, or introduce something to be like,

Starting point is 01:55:20 all right, you have somewhat of a life, but you are not able to access any technology or people that you can harm in this way and or figure out the part of it that, you know, I don't know. I don't know. I'm gonna say that if this guy is being classified as non-culpable by a British court

Starting point is 01:55:39 and their psychiatric system because of his autism, then it's probably pretty severe. And if that's the case, I don't think this guy's ever going to want to stop hacking because it's what he's interested in. And I guess the end result ends up being a question of like, does, I mean, like, can that result? Because I guess the thought is when you go to, when you're in prison for life, usually it's over like a, you know, a murder or something along

Starting point is 01:56:04 the lines of, you lines of where the consequences are basically, like in some cases you'd be capital punishment, right? But if something like this can through a series of weird side doors end up being effectively life imprisonment, I mean, that, yeah. That seems wild, you know. That seems, that seems pretty true. It's one of those things that it was like a, it was like a kind of a joke in like the 90s of like,

Starting point is 01:56:36 like this is the plot of one flu over the kukus nest, which is, hey, saying you're crazy and you did it because you were crazy to not go to prison, can have horrific bad side effects because the mental health system has no need to allow you to leave ever because their criteria are not like, you know they're rehabilitory, but that once you become institutionalized, either in an asylum in the military or once you become in raptured in what's called a total institution, are you familiar with the term? I mean, I'm familiar with being institutionalized, but...

Starting point is 01:57:25 So a total institution is a societal construct that will define every single thing about your entire way of life. So the three most common are the military, a prison, and a mental hospital. So every single thing about your life is going to be defined by other people and it's going to be prescribed. Right? Once you become totally institutionalized in one of these perspectives, every single thing you do is now going to be viewed through the lens of somebody who's institutionalized. So, for example, back before a bunch of asylum got shut down in the United States, you could take a video camera down and they'd be like, oh, Jimmy's crazy. Why is he crazy?

Starting point is 01:58:12 Well, he all he does is get naked and stamp his feet all day in his room and yell. And then you look deeper into this gentleman, it's like, oh, the staff is abusive and they don't feed him. Um, and every time he acts out, they take away his clothes and he's in a completely bare room suffering from a schizophrenic episode. So yeah! All he has the power to do is stamp his feet! They go while he's, he's totally lost his mind, He's crazy like that dude's just in a pit man What do you expect them to do? So once you become

Starting point is 01:58:51 stuck In the crazy house it gets really hard to convince people you're not crazy Because they go to work and they're like I'm going to deal with the crazy people and They're all trying to tell you that they're not crazy so they can leave. Damn, though. Did you see that alligator walking into the 7-11? That was crazy. Holy shit. That's crazy. I can't believe it. I can't wait for GTA 6, man. Damn. What a game. Florida is happening. Back to my city. go wow wow look at that But yeah, no, it's a it's a sad situation, but I can't I don't know what other possible options there are at all

Starting point is 01:59:37 Yeah, it's just it's it's it's it's it's fuck that like you can sideways and end up in in something like that where It's like it's the way the system is and it's like sure but if like it would be great if there was a way where you couldn't like have a sideways life sentence that is not a life sentence but it's just a matter of the checks and balances have led to one where you are Effectively living on a de facto life sentence despite not being a fact. Well, yeah, cuz like this this this guy Right, he's too unstable to be housed in the regular mental hospital But he needs treatment which you can't get at the prison

Starting point is 02:00:25 And you can't put him in the prison because he's not legally culpable. Yeah, you know each step. So each step. So he can't serve out a sentence. Each step checks out. Each step, I follow every step and we still end at the same result, which is like that's fucked up. Like I get it, I get it. Yep. A hunt checks out.

Starting point is 02:00:36 That's still nuts. You know? So the only thing you can say is that like at least this guy's particular need is to hack shit and not like blow up buildings or set fires. Yeah. Again, and if we're not, if you're talking about, you know, not punitive sentencing, more so focused on rehabilitation.

Starting point is 02:01:05 And then it's like, okay rehabilitation is not possible. Like, yeah, no. Hey, man, guess what? The phrase rehabilitation is not possible, becomes incredibly ethically complex. Yes. Do you hit a point where the system has a sense of like, where the system has a sense of like, well,

Starting point is 02:01:34 it's not, it would not be correct to leave this person indefinitely jailed, and at the same time, they have done enough harm that they need to be kept away from society for their own, for the society safety, for what they do. And is there a version of an in-between that is a, once again, a house arrest with no access to technology or a, you know, are there different steps you can go to where you pull it back from the idea that the person is literally in a cell forever

Starting point is 02:02:01 that is- Oh, that's definitely gonna improve their mental health. So, I don't know, I don't know I don't know and obviously not equipped to Fucking look for to give you further answers on how the UK system does it but yeah I don't know much about the UK system But I am under the impression that they're fairly strict at least compared to the Canadian system That was a that was a double taken a half when that update came in I was like holy shit like this dude is super fucked up,

Starting point is 02:02:25 but also like what the fuck with that? Yeah, and then every country has this different system. They're all fairly interesting in their own ways. Like, I think it was Sweden. There's like mandatory maximums that are like fairly low, but a judge has to let you out. Like you must go through the country's parole system. Meanwhile, Capcom in the tender are like, so you're not going to execute him out back

Starting point is 02:02:53 that. You're saying that you have him and you're not going to take his life. Just execute him. Yeah, no, I guess if you want to pay man there's a lot of lucky lose Sitting inside virtual cop cabinets at the bottom of the Tokyo Bay Just in the bottom of the cabinet and drop did sunk to the yeah, perfect God God. So yeah, that was the particular fucking insane one there, but leaks, leaks left and right. Besides all the leaks, we have some, we have some nice wholesome news. We got some good news. Oh, well, before we move on from the leaks, I actually, there is some information contained therein that is of note

Starting point is 02:03:48 to people in this field. Not in terms of like, hey, do you want to look at this Wolverine gameplay? Yeah. I mean, in the Slack messages of Insomniac people going, boy, we're wasting a shit ton of money on this Spider-Man game. What the fuck is going on at Sony?

Starting point is 02:04:09 In particular, there was like the spreadsheets about what games cost and how much they're expected to make back. And devs describing how like we spent over three times as much on Spider-Man 2 as we did on Spider-Man 1 and I don't think any of the customers can tell the difference. Was it the conclusion effectively that any attempt to run their own IP was doomed to fail? So from now on, they have to be the Marvel company. Well, that's because a ratchet and clank lost money. And um, sunset overdrive broke even. Yeah, literally. I think I think Spider-Man won't cost like

Starting point is 02:04:52 10 times as much as sunset overdrive though. Um, and so now they're now they're talking about like splitting games into two parts to sell for $50 to somehow help the budget and Later came out in an interview that like a bunch of missions in Spider-Man 2 near the end got cut so that they could keep the Mary Jane missions Which I will say is that was the wrong decision Whoever had the final say on, that was the wrong decision. Whoever had the final say on that, that was a bad move. HMM. And basically, it's just like people internal to Sony

Starting point is 02:05:35 going like, we are spending so much goddamn money and our projections are so high that if we do anything other than sell like a long tail of 20 million, the fucking studio is gonna go under. Well, if you cut a $50 game into two purchases of $50, I mean really, why do that when you can just go for the Sony 2027 plan for just getting games right up to a hundred bucks. You know, there's a, have you ever seen, this is a strange place to pull this quote from, but have you ever seen the movie contact? No, but I know.

Starting point is 02:06:17 So it's a space movie with, with maybe aliens that Carl Sagan wrote. And there's a moment in that where they're talking about building the artifact. And a guy says, why buy one when you can buy it twice for twice the price? And I think of that when I look at this because it's like, why have one Spider-Man game when you can have half of a Spider-Man game for double the money? Like the same, yeah. Yeah, so again, like in terms of leaks, continuing that the Sony or PlayStation leaks include details that Sony wants to bump things up to at least 80 to 100

Starting point is 02:07:08 from 2027 on. That was a more internal. And I mean, is it even remotely surprising? If anything, I'd say the timeline, you know, of, is, is, is like, yeah, the timeline would probably be the most surprising. It's like, of course, we wanted to get to that point, but getting there in, you know, and basically the tail end of this generation, as opposed to like moving firmly into the next,

Starting point is 02:07:44 is a wild ask. That's going to, that's going to be real fun of course to see in Canadian conversion as we get to watch the limited editions that are already like 120 or whatever now. That just becomes the standard fairer fucking price. On things, that's a... You know, well, you've worked in the games business and you've heard these people say these things. And I'm just thinking about like, you know, we sold 18 million copies of Spider-Man

Starting point is 02:08:21 at $670 and whatever, and we're not broken even yet. By the way, that was the big takeaway, is that Spider-Man 2 uh it's $60-70 and whatever and uh it's not broken even yet by the way that was the big takeaway is that Spider-Man 2 has not broken even yet despite selling like a shit-selling copies. Well what if we got the exact same amount of people to buy the game for $20 more? Are you alright? Ah! Yeah. They're gonna do it! They're not gonna do it.

Starting point is 02:08:50 There's not. Can we just get, can we just find the graph that Sony puts up and then just get the projected wage increase over the last century and just drop it on top of it and just look at the lines and see the funny shapes that they make when they sit next to each other. I was really thrilled by the way that this week's stories panned out because like my take away from this week is that waiting over a year to buy midnight sons with all its DLC for $30 was the best thing that happened to me playing games over the past two weeks.

Starting point is 02:09:31 Because that's what I find to be the value of midnight songs. Steam sale diving. And um, bro, there are people. Bro, there are people. Sales will always remain, okay, so like we're watching a bunch of studios disintegrate. You probably have it on there with Versus Evil. Do you have that on there? Okay, so Versus Evil is a publishing arm that's done a like a lot of CRPGs

Starting point is 02:10:08 Fucking like two days ago. No, sorry on the 23rd They all got laid off oh the pillars publisher. Yeah, the 23rd of fucking December they laid off like 1100 people Because they well for one versus evil, a lawsuit against their parent company. Tiny bills. Tiny bills. Yeah. They want a lawsuit against Tiny Build saying, hey, you actually never paid us for a bunch of shit.

Starting point is 02:10:35 And then Tiny Build was like, well, this publishing arm never makes them numbers that we expect to see. So goodbye. And it's like the numbers that companies expect to see. So goodbye. And it's like the numbers that companies expect to see are the ones that are based off of like the pandemic lockdown video game sales. You know the one where people were forced to stay inside

Starting point is 02:10:59 their house and play video games by law? Man, nothing's gonna compete with that. Like, there's something extra weird about a lawsuit involving tiny build in particular because they still have that fucking no time to explain guy on the logo giving the impression that it's this super tiny little Newgrounds game office, you know, but they have the little guy So they're like anything they publish must be super tiny too, and it's not it's tiny builds tiny games Tiny little office for tiny things like it just gives off that fucking impression

Starting point is 02:11:43 Like Jesus Christ man Well, that's that's fucking garbage. So I got to see a variation of this. There was a gentleman who works at New Blood. I forget which one. Who made Iron Long? Is it one of the David's? Someone in the channel, let me know. But the guy who made iron long

Starting point is 02:12:06 Went on to the social media and was like I'm raising the price It's David is it yeah, which David Samansky. Okay, Samansky so David Samansky went on the Twitter And was like I am raising the price of iron long to eight dollars and People started getting all shitty is that you're just doing this for the money and then he made a big thread of iron long to eight dollars and people start to get in all shitties. You're just doing this for the money and then he made a big thread that's like, yes. I'm doing it for the money. I think iron long is really good and I want more money. So I raised the price of the game that I made. So I raised the price of the game that I made. So I raised the price of the game that I made. So I raised the price of the game that I made. So I raised the price of the game that I made. So I raised the price of the game that I made.

Starting point is 02:12:45 So I raised the price of the game that I made. So I raised the price of the game that I made. So I raised the price of the game that I made. So I raised the price of the game that I made. So I raised the price of the game that I made. So I raised the price of the game that I made. So I raised the price of the game that I made. So I raised the price of the game that I made.

Starting point is 02:12:53 So I raised the price of the game that I made. So I raised the price of the game that I made. So I raised the price of the game that I made. So I raised the price of the game that I made. So I raised the price of the game that I made. So I raised the price of the game that I made. So I raised the price of the game that I made. So I raised the price of the game that I made. So I raised the price of the game that I made. So I raised the price of the game that I made.

Starting point is 02:13:01 So I raised the price of the game that I made. So I raised the price of the game that I made. So I raised the price of the game that I made. So I raised the price of the game that I made. So I raised the price of the game that I made. So I raised the price of the game that I made. the price of the game that I made. because people have buying thresholds. People will all buy different things at different thresholds. Like we saw it happen with movies. Like oh, the movie industry is dying. Like no, people just don't, people can't casually walk to some piece of shit movie

Starting point is 02:13:18 on Wednesday, because going to the movies costs $400. We see that's why the move is to release the game at $8 and then just have it on sale for the entire time of that launch window until you pull it back to the original price that it was $7.99 to begin with. Right, that's where David messed up. He should have just had it launch at $7.99 and then put a fucking bullshit sale on. Yeah. Anyway. it launch at 7.99 and then put a fucking bullshit sail on. Yeah. Anyway, um, so yeah, again, right? More money, more money to the hardworking folks that bring us to video games, right?

Starting point is 02:14:07 If there's one thing that millennials, Gen Z and Gen Alpha have is more disposable income than you thought. The people, the people who work hard on the video games we love deserve to be compensated for what they do. To that end, can we just, can end, can we just give it up for the world's most admired company and most admired CEO, Bobby Coddick, stepping down. Oh, stepping down. Yeah. After all this time, you know, you want, and I mean, you know,

Starting point is 02:14:44 it's not, you know, you can write the letter, it's not about the letter, it's not about the memories, it's not about the victims of sexual assault, it's not about the, you know, the schemes and the, the like literal gangster-esque fucking gangland crimes I just I just love describing things as schemes um It's about the well earned three hundred and seventy five million dollars in exchange for Facilitating the merger, you know, that's what it's about. It's about that parachute guys It's about that that airship of a parachute It's about that, that airship of a parachute. Ha ha ha ha ha. Shield Helicarrier. Made of gold. That Bobby is attached to.

Starting point is 02:15:30 That is slowly dropping him back down to Earth. Well deserved, well earned. You know? Quarter Bill? What's that? What's that? For all for the, for the 30 plus years of hard work and dedication? Mr. Coddick this one goes out to you

Starting point is 02:15:51 Yeah, their replacement so I just I did a quick little Google search You remember how like Tony Hawk's Pro Skater Got subsumed into the call of duty machine Tony Hawk's Pro Skater got subsumed into the call of duty machine. Somewhere between the four five one two, whatever, sure. Yeah. Yeah. Uh, so, uh, Bobby, you're getting, um, you're getting 300. What was it? 355 million three 45. I saw three 75, but you know 375 okay so for for fun sees I was

Starting point is 02:16:28 like hey how much to um game of the year and currently um 20 plus million to make was it 100 million dollars to take? Bob oh, oh, you could have made three and a half games the size and scope of Baldur's Gate three with Roberts with your bonus Roberts of house Gothic. You could have made as we were talking about before you could have made 1.2 spider man Or if you want to get low stakes You could make let me get the calculator out of here. You could have made You could have made

Starting point is 02:17:30 85 games the size of pillars of eternity to At the budget of 4.4 million And no one makes them like Bobby man you. You did it, you did it. Could you imagine if instead of that, ball of fucking blizzard and Activision had put out 25 more games. Hey, he won. Bobby won. And they did simultaneously, like yesterday,

Starting point is 02:18:03 they just put out 25 spin-offs You want to talk about fucking indefinite incarceration This dude gets to go fucking just I don't what do you I who knows just like you can disappear and now and you can literally just fuck off You know, I'm sure he'll be he'll be chiming in Every now and then just to you know slap an ass and keep everyone in line You know just keep just we're just keep the culture a little bit in place before it changes a little too much, you know You can't can't have

Starting point is 02:18:42 Can't have anyone thinking they're asked my knockout slapped. Um, he didn't, man. He got the fuck out. He held the line, you know, he weathered the storm. He gave no fucks. The merger happened. The government's tried to stop it. They did not shame on you government.

Starting point is 02:19:07 Entire nations could not defeat it. Try to stop my hustle. Bobbi Kodik with extraordinary gratitude to the extraordinary people. So yeah, if you want to go read on his history as a gamer, you can go check out his farewell letter and pour one out to a legend. You know, I feel like it's in addition to this as a like sub story. I don't know how to even describe it, but like every single company in the United States is absorbing itself into a different company and like all of them result in layoffs and every single one.

Starting point is 02:19:54 And you try and bring that up and the fucking smooth brain response is with Goku can hang out with Wolverine. Oh dude, it'd be so good. And then you're like, then you point out, like, yeah, okay, but then that doesn't even happen. Like the thing you're potentially excited for isn't even gonna happen. Yeah, because the merger is less of a, a, a, a handshake meeting of the minds and it's more of a, we jumped off of our syncing ship. Do you have room on yours before the collapse?

Starting point is 02:20:30 You know, if we tie both of our syncing ships together, they'll float. Cause they're bigger. Yeah, like Wolverine jumped aboard because there was fucking nothing behind him, and this is the only place left to go before it, it's all swallowed up. But yeah, good feels, good times on that.

Starting point is 02:20:56 It is interesting, though, because at the same time as we're talking about all that, there is a, where is the exact wording here? Yeah, okay, so we're, the China has always been different when it comes to gambling and Gacha rules. You could say China is built different. I would say that that is an accurate statement. Builds the different.

Starting point is 02:21:28 Yeah. And one thing is that because of their rules on transparency, there have been things like a loot box percentages and such have had to be made transparent, although of course not in every territory only in the ones where the law applies. So something else that has changed recently is in addition to the Robin, random probability stuff that they've had. Gatch of games with features that tempt players

Starting point is 02:21:58 into spending will be outlawed such as top up bonuses, purchasing in-gameup bonuses, purchasing in-game currency, or when purchasing in-game currency, cumulative rewards for buying in-game content, and stuff that's usually daily login rewards and things like that. So, yeah, the... These new rules are... First of all, I can't read Chinese. And most of you can't read Chinese. And most of you can't either.

Starting point is 02:22:27 So we're stuck going on like the ABC or variety or CNBC's like, you know, their guy translating for it. There are so many new rules for games in this legislation. It is so funny. The stuff that I'm seeing reported and translated particularly, are the stuff things that pertain to Gacha? So here's the fun part.

Starting point is 02:22:56 As we are describing in this, people are saying they've already rolled it back, but then when I try and search for that, I can't actually find a single source. And I'm gonna assume that's because I can't read Chinese. Okay. Yeah, I'm seeing, I mean, there's literally just Twitter accounts

Starting point is 02:23:14 that are doing their own translations, and then there's a couple articles on it. The, there's one indicating here that like, this might mean battle passes. And like, in general, will be like heavily affected in such but based on the incentivization. So basically, it's all a lot of anti-gambling practices being put in place, you know?

Starting point is 02:23:36 There's a, there's a, there's a lot of stuff in it. Daily logins are out. There's the one that, that, that, that my eyes bugged out of my fucking head was that anything that you can roll for or try and get a loot box for, every single item inside has to be directly purchasable. Which is just great death to the gacha system. So this is where you have to wonder, like when does the inability to allow the children

Starting point is 02:24:07 to gamble become so cost negative that it's instead of making a Chinese version, it's better to just not release in the territory at all. So it's this fun little thing because people are saying, well, this is only affecting China. Don't worry about it. And it's like one of the reasons all these companies pivoted towards this shit, it's because of the Chinese market.

Starting point is 02:24:31 There's a lot of Chinese people in a lot of the play video games, and they got money. If you've got a gotcha game, and you can't gatch it in the most populated country in the world, that's bad for your money. When the loot box rules first came out and we were like talking about this some 10 years ago or so. Did India beat them? God, good for India.

Starting point is 02:24:55 But still, there's a lot of people over there. When we were first talking about the ruling on loot boxes and shit, yeah, like fucking a million years ago, I remember it was like, okay, so this is how we're able to figure out what the percentages are for any given whatever like, you know, overwatcher and so on. But like the hopes that that would like catch on and become something that other countries started to implement

Starting point is 02:25:22 did not become the case. Australia has always been pretty stringent on it and they had their own thing as well when it came to just game ratings and so on. And we've seen the UK go back and forth a couple times with stuff with that, but there's never been anyone that straight up had it that just took basically what China was doing with that and forced those percentages. So, you know, you have to assume that, you know, lobbying backroom deals, etc., Yadda, there's enough money exchanging hands that no one else is going to be forcing game companies to be transparent about their gambling practices, percentages, and reducing any of that.

Starting point is 02:26:04 In this case, they kind of like, we're like, okay, that info's out there, but we'll just treat China as a different territory, have a different version of the game. You know, this stuff, like you said, it gets closer and closer to completely nullifying the purpose, you know. So like, for example, let's take Genshin Impact.

Starting point is 02:26:22 Sure. Oh yeah. Probably the most popular Gacha game in the world. Made in-house by a Chinese company by Mahoyo. So they would be overtly directly affected in every single way. They're huge in China, they're huge out of China. So let's say these rules all go through.

Starting point is 02:26:41 Well, one of two things happened. They would either change the game entirely and globally or would make one version for China and have a much, much, shittier version for the rest of the world. But the rest of the world will be able to see the Chinese version. And that's weird. will be able to see the Chinese version.

Starting point is 02:27:07 And that's weird. So I have been linked, an article describing how the Chinese government did not expect net ease and tense stocks prices to tumble ass overhead when they made these rules, so they are considering rolling a couple things back. Indeed they did. Tencent went down by 2% after the announcement and a net ease dropped by 3.6. However, when I am reading here, What I am reading here

Starting point is 02:27:49 They are Fuck I had I had it the right link and then I fucking move you Sure well, well, I this this I feel like I mean while a financial incentive will always You know move mountains and and cause anything to to any decision to be unmade. Ah, here it is. It goes line in line with the things you hear about, for example, the Chinese version of TikTok, where there's a bunch of anti-addiction things they have in place and a whole different version of the algorithm and so on. So I'm not surprised.

Starting point is 02:28:22 They are considering rolling back parts of these new rules. The two parts that they are considering rolling back are the parts that limit the ability to encourage daily logins and the parts that limit how much you can top up your wallet, which are the least effective out of all of them. It's actually the, the rule that is the biggest is the destruction of the Gatchelute box, which is you can't have things only by chance in the game without. You have to be able to just purchase it specifically.

Starting point is 02:29:01 It's woolly, even if the fucking new character in Genshin cost straight a hundred dollars that would be a massive loss. That would be a massive loss. God, the dropperids are that fucking bad, huh? They sure are. Oh man. Damn. You gotta wonder if there's a draft

Starting point is 02:29:27 version of this that included like like okay you cannot really you cannot have any of these features in your games. However if you're making an American a version of the game for America triple down on those features actually. Also you're making a game for America. You need to put about flashing lights. You need to scorch there. We will reward you for every loot box. Like that has a 0% reward chance actually.

Starting point is 02:30:00 Oh, fuck warfare. Yeah, that's a wild one. So, it never had... People have been talking about this quite a bit. And I have to say that the absolute most psychotic, smooth brain, fuckhead take I've ever seen about anything to do with Gatcha is like, oh this is terrifying

Starting point is 02:30:25 This is so bad for the industry how are companies gonna make it? And it's like I don't know if you've actually seen that I have seen at least a few individuals Heming and hawing and sad Saying we need to defend the whales and the world of that. No listen these You're stifling innovation of the gaming industry. And it's like, bro, are you saying that, like, you, it's necessary to teach the children to get addicted to gambling?

Starting point is 02:30:58 There was no other way this could have gone. There was no other way. When the world of micro, many buys becomes the, what, the only one you know, when every single game that you've ever played, it has been in this world. Then it is the norm, right? It is, it has just replaced whatever came before. Bro, like, I got a kid now. So like, I got to, you know, I'll have to watch out what they're getting into. And it's like, You know, I'll have to watch out what they're getting into and it's like

Starting point is 02:31:32 Yeah, you saw some boobs are you shot that that guys head blew up or whatever you stay away from that gacha shit Yeah Man fuck your brain up. It's every version of like yeah like if you are like yeah again Well with every industry gets it is effective with like music how it's just like, yeah, like if you are like, yeah, again, well, with every industry gets it is effective with like music, how it's just like, oh yeah, I'm releasing an album doesn't mean anything. It's just streams, streams are plays and the plays you get, yeah, mean, the artist gets fucked shit all, like nothing on the penny on the, on the, on the, on the play. Yeah.

Starting point is 02:32:01 Yeah, you're, you're gonna have people who have people who just don't even understand the concept of the simple version of things in the past, which was you pay the money, you get the game, and it's the whole game, and that's all there is to it. It like, anyway, I haven't seen any of that shit. It's not surprising to hear that it exists. I'm just really like, I haven't seen any of that shit. It's not surprising to hear that it exists. I'm just really like, I'm annoyed because yeah, I just, I remember like back on friend cast like just talking about like man, like look at this,

Starting point is 02:32:36 like it would be so cool to like have a bunch of, it'd be nice to see this be a trend because eventually if enough countries are like, well this is a trend because eventually, if enough countries are like, well, this is not profitable for, if enough companies are like, it's not profitable because we have to have different versions of our game for this specific country. No, that's like not removing from Belgium, removing from Sweden.

Starting point is 02:32:54 Right, if they just straight up put the gates down and go, no, you can't do that. Here's the thing. They get bullied into having to comply. The really important thing about that is small population like European country willing to legislate on this, Australia willing to legislate on this, who gives a shit, how many like from a capitalist

Starting point is 02:33:16 like product perspective? How many people are you selling video games to an Australia? Sure, right? Yeah, we'll take the hit, right right? Yeah, but the United States and China China Okay, those are pig markets and the US will never and I mean never Do anything? Oh, I mean they could be the last ones left I mean it'd be it'd be it'd be Fahrenheit versus self one's left. I mean, it'd be Fahrenheit versus metric versus fucking imperial. Yeah, absolutely. There's no way

Starting point is 02:33:48 it would ever. But just again, there's, there was a hope that it would happen, it would take on, it would catch on in more than one or two places. Anyway, beyond that. Here's hoping that the fascist dictatorship of China can Make such a global impact that video games become a little bit better over here. Hope and so I Mean hey, man, those loot box things. Those loot box percentages were a pretty good thing They were actually really not positive net positive of that Absolutely You know, yeah, keep kicking them in the nuts They were actually really not positive net positive on that absolutely

Starting point is 02:34:27 You know yeah keep kicking them in the nuts Try to keep doing it you fucking put those video game companies in their place man someone's got to do it There you go There you go Dude I'm telling you the alligators that walked into the 7-Eleven they look so fucking realistic It was crazy bad but they looked real and then the then the fucking Joker face guy like damn that really happened bro Look at that this game looks wild Oh, I'm sorry me I'm being I'm being I'm being I'm being corrected that it is a communist people's dictatorship, not a fascist dictatorship. My mistake.

Starting point is 02:35:16 I would have felt that the four dictatorship was the part that was important, but okay, whatever. I'm not a polycy major. You know when there's like like 19th directions you can go in and you're just... Yeah, I know! I know! Hahaha! All right, we are going to just move. Hahaha! Oh! Hahaha! All right. All right, all right, all right.

Starting point is 02:35:57 Ha! Someone has done some digging. And, uh... No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, nah, nah, that's, that's, hey, no. No, we don't got a, no NASBALL, nothing. Okay, we move forward. Um, someone has been doing some digging, and, uh, apparently,

Starting point is 02:36:18 it seems as if the origin of the hatred of the term JRPG has been found, because we discussed how JRPG has become somewhat of a hated term amongst Japanese developers. And people are like, where did this show up first? And the, yeah, the sub-digging has led to an interview from Daniel Erickson, the writing director of BioWare back in the day, during the release of FF13. So talking with strategy and former about the upcoming release of the older public, Daniel Erickson said

Starting point is 02:37:04 that FF13 is not an RPG. This is in reply to a question about this main staple of the older public being its story and how the game might be affected without good gameplay to support it, much like Final Fantasy XIII was. Before I address the main point, I just want to take a slightly more controversial route. You can put a J in front of it, but it's not an RPG. You don't make any choices. You don't create a character.

Starting point is 02:37:28 You don't live your character. You don't know. I don't know what those are. Adventure games maybe, but they're not RPGs. Sederik. Erickson. This apparently. What was this guy's writing credits at the time um well writing

Starting point is 02:37:47 director for bioware but what what's specifically let's take a look I can tell you sure dragon age origins and NBA street okay all, we got ourselves a movie games page. And it's like, oh, you don't have the professional cache A to make these kinds of judgments, man. Also, the game we're talking about, tour street volume one, two, and three. Ooh. He was fresh off his first writing gig for Dragon Age Origins. He had written part of one game at the time of this interview. So that went on to Spark internally a complete fucking hellfire over in Japan with Nomura who effectively was in an interview where you know how we talk about the Miyamoto walking

Starting point is 02:38:58 in and yelling and the translator just going he's very upset he was very upset right like and they just don't even bother. It was one of those. So here, it says, in a roundtable interview conducted at E3, a European journalist asked Nomura's opinion on something that BioWars Daniel Erickson said in an interview to the effect that JRPGs are not real RPGs. Nomura seemed to get mad. In one of those excruciating lost in translation moments where the Japanese developer rants for 5 minutes and the translator comes back with a 5 second answer, he relates that RPGs perhaps even all games shouldn't be categorized by nationality. His game shouldn't be called JRPGs, they should just be RPGs. So, no more of popped off, and the translator just went,

Starting point is 02:39:45 uh, he says, call them RPGs. Mm-hmm. Fuck, if there's no tape of it, we'll never know. You know, we'll never know. Well, actually really sad, yeah. Ah! So, I should mention, and this is really important. BioWare specifically, there was an interview with one of the writers of Baldur's Gate, who

Starting point is 02:40:11 wrote on Baldur's Gate 2. So Baldur's Gate came out, and while they were developing Baldur's Gate, they played FF7, and the writers on Baldur's Gate played FF7 and went, fuck, our characters suck compared to these characters. And the reason why the character writing is improved in Baldur's Gate 3, sorry too, Baldur's Gate 2 is because they specifically wanted to live up to the type of characterization in FF7. And then Mass Effect went on to make

Starting point is 02:40:44 every single fucking character of Goddamn anime protagonist Wow and just really wow anime as hard as they possibly could so we started with the inspiration from Japan and went all the way around and Now we're coming back to shit on it and then just in the same Wow incredible back to shit on it and then just in the same, wow, incredible. It's almost like some kind of horseshoe. Almost like a horseshoe theory. I don't know. Anyway, um, that, uh, uh, that being the thing that comes back to, by and everyone in the ass now, where I like, again, I remember

Starting point is 02:41:29 when it came back up that they're like, oh, they hate the term JRPGs. And I was like, I didn't know that that was a problem because we still just use it to like go like, oh, I'm a chrono trigger, you know, and that's kind of your brain just goes like, yes, or whatever. And WRPG being the the shit we now know that's like, yeah, and then the sub division of CRPG, which is computer roleplay. Oh, God. Which is the ones that are specifically based off of Dungeons and Dragons. Um, it's, it's one of these weird things where in the end, like, we still use a RPG and like, we know what it means.

Starting point is 02:42:07 It's not that disrespectful thing, but I super get it as to why they hate it because they're basically taking it like the J is like a racist thing. It's all, it's like, it's straight up like, oh, you're, oh, it's one of those J RPGs, huh? So here's the thing I shut up I got to say the one shut up shut up shut up I have to say N R P G before we can I have to get I have no I there's no clever way to get into it I have no transition I'm just gonna say N R P G thank you thank you all right I had to get it out all right I continue you know exactly how you feel all right there but you can't find the path and I

Starting point is 02:42:50 know you're like I know you know time for clever no I can't come out but as I was saying JRPG yeah and I was trying to like play it up and be all ridiculous and then I'm like I've seen people actually say that shit out loud like my my ridiculous example Everyone persona three came out and persona me were playing persona three and all that fatless shit You remember that? Which one? You're you're there was this huge fucking meme series about fatless and how you got a biker so into three and then Kinshiro shows up and you're already fat No, I don't I don't think I remember that. Oh, you don't remember that. It was funny, but at the same time that it was funny but at the same time like like there is a real intense disparagement oh fatless fatless yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah fatless fatless yeah okay

Starting point is 02:43:53 okay wait I do yeah yeah absolutely yeah yeah I I I mean you're you're dying Look look I do not blame no more or any of them for fucking throwing that shade and having that feeling all these years later. It's- Oh yeah, absolutely. That shit will stick with you, and especially- Well, especially when you're-

Starting point is 02:44:30 Who worked in the industry during like the 360 era where Phil Fish just put a point on it. Right, and you're like, all the cultural output of Japan is trash. It's like, I don't know if you've been to a comic book store, but fucking anime and manga have fucking defeated us. But it was at that time when, you know, Japan was doing worse in video games, and it was a lot of that energy was just like, yeah, fuck them. Our time is now while you're designing your character with a buster sword, you know, and like it's just, it's like,

Starting point is 02:45:05 yeah, the, and everyone who you're working with was influenced and or their list of favorite games are everything that these same people made. I also think that gentlemen working on a Star Wars game to crying the cultural output of Japan when Star Wars is just what if Samurai's head laser swords To be fucking weak as shit Yeah, well Japan couldn't make NBA Street

Starting point is 02:45:37 So what I mean to be fair the fucking dude street had some sick ass music. I mean what do you do? It did. I'm sure that guy had something to do with it. No, I that's a lie. Rock the party. Rock the party. All right. Yeah, I'm I'm praying for a resolution to this story where someone finds some tape and actually puts up just the fucking full rant and we can get everything he says. Um, good, good.

Starting point is 02:46:13 Let's take some letters. Hey, if you want to send in a letter, make a brief and we'll be much more likely to read it and send it to castle super beast mail at gmail.com Let's take one Or two or three If they're good Dylan from Vancouver says hey scrimbo blim blow and JRPG McSortguy Um, I'm obviously the blow All right, I look like a blorbo. Let's be honest. Fair enough.

Starting point is 02:46:46 I don't know if it's JRPG anymore, but I'll take the big start, okay. Are the hit Canadian band Prozac V-Tubers? If not, why? So I'm gonna be honest, I have no idea who that is. Oh come on, you know about them. They're the animated group with the guy with the floating head and it's always disjointed and they're not gorillas and they're the other ones that existed at the time. I would say that they're, Oh this looks like shit.

Starting point is 02:47:21 Yeah, oh yeah, I mean little goofy old old anime. They had they had animated music videos And you know it was the other again not girl is banned at the time They I'm gonna say no because like to V tube I think the goal is that there's other content that they're going through watching or playing and then you're You're it's a let's watch, play, et cetera, read with that thing. The purses act's just saying they're music for you. And so that doesn't count.

Starting point is 02:47:53 Yeah, I didn't know there were Canadian actually. I, huh. So I would say that these folks aren't a Vtuber in the same way that Hatsune Miku is not a Vtuber because it's not an interactive virtual persona. It's it's it's an animation. Mm-hmm. Do you remember um sucks to be you? I know I know sucks to be you. Oh that was them. Yeah. Right huh. And www.nevergetover.eu that that one was not as well known but that was them

Starting point is 02:48:33 Toronto how about that? I guess we can claim them no No It's own country Let's take one over here Good day of castle crashes. Yeah, okay, so this was just directly relevant. Have you noticed? Any light wrist or hand pain after gaming for a while and if so what methods do you use or employ to mitigate it? I play upright electric bass for the Army during the day and frequently, game with friends, mainly fighting games and after these last few months, I've started to feel some light wear and tear.

Starting point is 02:49:13 Any tips would be appreciated. Stay fresh from Lannash. Hello. This is directly relevant because I have started to feel some what's called all-ner-nerve numbness recently. Ooh, that's the good one. Yeah, it's not Carpool Tunnel, right? It's the other tunnel.

Starting point is 02:49:37 I forget the name. So, but yeah, ultimately, like, when I went to go see a physio about it and do some stretches and learn some stuff, the basic things that came in were like, even though you're getting numbness towards the tip of your pinky finger and along the side to your elbow, it's actually indicative of your neck and the muscles up by your lats being weaker because it's all a domino effect. If if your back is not strong enough from here, from the way you sit and your posture and everything,

Starting point is 02:50:12 then that lets loose your shoulders, which lets loose your elbow, which then chakkharo carries all the way down in a domino effect to the fingertips and the numbness that you feel. And some of the wrists as well. So I started feeling wrist, I get, I get, I you started getting some random numbness that you feel. And some of the wrists as well. So I started feeling wrist, I get, you started getting some random numbness over the last couple of weeks. And I also specifically noticed what I do specifically a, scootim input or a throw, right? Like that pinch causes a wrist tingle

Starting point is 02:50:40 and like a bit of a wrist pain to occur. Congrats, you learned how to do that motion in a deleterious risk pain to occur. Congrats. You learned how to do that motion in a deleterious motion for your body. Not good. So fortunately with a lot of these things though, you know, even if it's like the numbness indicates something of the nerve, but like if you strengthen the muscles, you can give yourself more support and completely avoid that.

Starting point is 02:51:00 So yeah, basically what I got was make sure your posture is correct, sit up straight as much as you can. I got make sure your arm rest because the couch I have had the arm rest a bit too high. Make sure your arm rest is low enough that you're when even if you're holding a stick or controller, your elbows need to be like down at your sides. I've dropped the arm rests on the hermit miller down to that side. Important to do. I've learned doing like basically a little like neck, bring your, like a little exercise where you bring your neck all the way back and like give yourself a double chin on purpose.

Starting point is 02:51:36 It kinda like, it kinda works out, yeah. It works out the back of your neck and it strengthens that area, which then in turn affects the shoulders and goes all the way down. So do a couple of those throughout the day. Another one is like elbow on the table, and then just kind of like holding the wrist,

Starting point is 02:51:52 bending it forward, and then doing all the way back. You know, all of that sort of helps. Try and increase the range of motion on the joints that could be affected. Precisely. But like, the main thing is that like strengthening the muscles that hold the muscles in place is more important than strengthening the muscles where you actually feel the effect, you know,

Starting point is 02:52:14 and obviously, you know, I mean if you can minimize the stress and impact on it and such that that helps to but for me, I mean it's my fucking job. So, you know, yeah, that's not gonna be easy. But like the posture thing is like, yeah, that's real. Like I slouch a bunch from, yeah, I mean, it's one of those things where, you know, like, I think a lot of the times, like taller people will slouch in some, and, you know, also if you, I'm like, be, like, I don't know, there's a bit of a diminutive presence as well.

Starting point is 02:52:45 You're looking down a lot of the time or you're trying to not talk too much, take up too much space, oh yeah, yeah, yeah, plus real talk, back when I was much heavier, I would also like try to almost like contain my body more. Like I want to not appear as large and fat as I am. So like I had a posture that was more like hunched in. So that's all like learned and bad habits that has to be like fixed, you know, at this

Starting point is 02:53:14 point. But yeah, that's literally what I got from going to the physio a couple times a few weeks. All right. I was a minor follow up to this. Number one, there's, I was waiting, depending if you were going to get to it, will they? But there's like a piece of a, the one massive piece of advice you missed. And that is, when you notice the numbness and tingling, or minor pain, like one on the pain scale, like not a big deal, when you do this, don't go, eh, it's fine.

Starting point is 02:53:48 Oh yeah, sure. And continue to do what's causing you to feel the pain. Yes. That is a massive trap, because you're like, ah, it's not that bad. By the time it gets to be that bad, it's not gonna go away when you stand up and walk away from whatever the fuck you're doing. It's gonna stay with you for Possibly forever the first signs are there are the indicator that it's an issue the earlier you stop it the easier it is to fix. Yeah, yeah

Starting point is 02:54:17 As for my own personal history. I have two things that That fit this one. I use I don't know if people notice, but when I play on my streams, I play exclusively with PlayStation 5 controllers. The reason for that is because the trigger is the softest to depress. When I played FF14 with an Xbox controller, I would start to get trigger finger on my index fingers.

Starting point is 02:54:42 And trigger finger is when your tendons get so tight that when you try to extend it, it will pop. And then you try to curl it and it will pop back in a place like it's locked. Just overuse of those tendons. So I switched to this controller, which is softer, and toned it down. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. That's good. And the second of which is also related to that,

Starting point is 02:55:16 but it was a PS4 controller. Well, I don't know if you remember this, but when Assassin's Creed Black Flag came out, like I was like super into it, I was playing all the time and I 100% of that, what you probably don't remember is that my fucking right arm got frozen shoulder. Did you have to hold down R the entire time? You fuck super dude. To run. Yes, Assassin's Creed. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Starting point is 02:55:49 And that caused like some kind of cataclysmic effect to creep up my arm to which my shoulder, I was like flexing my shoulder every time I pulled the trigger and it was keeping it flexed for so long that I didn't develop what you would know as frozen shoulder. I dealt what would be called freezing shoulder from what would probably be classified as primary adhesive subcapsidolitis, which meant I didn't have so many adhesions that my arm would pop if I lifted it up. But my shoulder was so tight, I couldn't lift my arm above my head. God.

Starting point is 02:56:32 And it was like that for like two, three, four months. Assassin's claw, yeah. And the way that I fixed that, because it didn't get so bad that I was like, I need to, like I wasn't like disabled, I just, it would hurt if I put my arm on. And I was like, well, I'm gonna try and do something about this with like stretching

Starting point is 02:56:53 before I, you know, go to the doctor. And so what I did is I went into the shower and I put the shower to as hot as I could handle it and discovered I could lift my arm over my head with absolutely no pain whatsoever. Interesting. And I was like, okay, well, yeah, like arthritis.

Starting point is 02:57:11 Clearly, I'm not all fucked up. Interesting. Right. So what I would do is I would go in the shower and put the shower to as hot as I could do, put my hands straight up, leaving under the tap for, not the tap, the shower to as hot as I could do. Put my hands straight up, leave it under the tap for like, not the tap, the shower for 10 minutes. Turn the shower off, and when the shower turned off

Starting point is 02:57:31 and the water stopped hitting my shoulder, I could hear, I could hear it. My tendon started to contract. Wow. I go, and I just held my arm straight up as long as I could, as long as I could manage and I did that for about two weeks And it went away interesting that's cool once I figured out that I really need to stop this Yeah, and then it took a it took about a month or two to for me to get back to like, you know full range of motion and all that

Starting point is 02:58:01 No, and that was when I was like oh, I can't play assassin screen games like this anymore It'll fuck my shit up and that's the thing is was when I was like, oh, I can't play Assassin's Creed games like this anymore. It'll fuck my shit up. And that's the things like, that's where I get to talk about people like switch to hitbox or something, but it's like you want to fix what you can, not just avoid it with the controller. The using your flexibility as a metric is,

Starting point is 02:58:20 yeah, that came up too as well, because when we were doing tests, like the physio kind of pointed out that like, with one arm, I can like bend my wrist completely, like, you know, onto itself. And with the other, it's much more limited. And like, we did a couple of like bending the wrist flexibility test. And I can see that like, the wrist that was affected just has a much lower range of motion. So doing all of these exercises and things over time, basically she was saying like, yeah, you can see the improvement on gauge where it's at by seeing how more flexible that becomes. And also, like, if the pain starts transferring higher and higher up on your

Starting point is 02:59:00 arm towards your back towards your neck, it's actually... Getting worse! No, no, no, no, no, no. It's good. No, it's good. It's good. It's good. Yes, because if it stops happening down here and it starts happening up here, it's because it's like,

Starting point is 02:59:12 it's going up to the muscle where it's going higher to the place where it should be. It, you know... Oh, it's no longer deferred. It's no longer deferred all the way down to the end of the domino. Oh, okay. You're strengthening it and it's pulling it back so that the weakest point is now getting

Starting point is 02:59:27 you know, like further and further or not the further is not getting further and further. You're strengthening up here so it's doing its job and actually lifting and holding the things in place instead of just letting it drop completely. So you know, keep that in mind too. Now I am not a physio. I'm not, you know what I mean? I'm just relaying what I was hearing in addition to getting one of them stretchy resistance bands and I do walk around after like doing some exercise and just like doing

Starting point is 02:59:53 some stretches with this over time too to like keep arms and whatnot and check. But yeah, this is our careers. You got to make sure you're fucking. I am also not a physiotherapist, a doctor, a chiropractor, or a massage therapist, but I will tell you, if it hurts, stop doing that. Figure out a way to change it, so don't hurt no more, or try and fix whatever the cause is. Okay.

Starting point is 03:00:28 Stop it. And let's take one more here. And yeah, this one's coming in from Tuni D, an update on Catalica, the board game defeated by the sun. So we gave an update the other day to that. And there's, yes, this appears to be the final update. So dear fairhuntress and pink and death pressured green. In your last podcast you briefly mentioned Catalica, the board game which the lead developer stopped making the game because the sun was harassing her.

Starting point is 03:01:07 Hearing her mentioned got me interested in checking out the Kickstarter again, and what do you know? Last month there was an update, and whooo boy! The first half of the update, it's called I feel like this has to be the final update, is the name of it. The first half is almost sane, if a bit whiny and shitty, essentially blaming her fans for being ungrateful and asking them, well, what would you do while also describing her woes with production such as having to replace her printer?

Starting point is 03:01:40 After that, it goes off the rails completely. I recommend reading it in your leisure, but here's some fun tidbits if you don't have the time. The reason Katalika failed was a plot by an evil cult that worships UV radiation known as the green. While she and her tribe are followers of the pink, These two color-coded energies essentially make up the entire world, their Yin and Yang, life and death, good and evil. The pink abstain from all sex and lust, while with Molly wishing her tribe to reproduce via clothing. The green is the opposite, labeled with the color green after plant life, because not only

Starting point is 03:02:25 do most plants contain both male and female sexual organs, but they also take energy from her most hated enemy, UV rays. So if that's green, then why the pink labeled pink? Well, that's because of the pink fair skin, of course. Woohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoo make green pat pat pat yeah what's up what's up what does that make green she's describing a group of people with photosynthetic properties a type of person comfortable in the sun. Comfortable in the sun. Comfortable in the sun. I'm a sun. Black people, because we have a higher tolerance to the sun, at our culture is full of overtly sexualized themes. Well, I have to ask you a genuine question. Are black people

Starting point is 03:03:46 allied with the Sun? Oh, we'll order to stop this board game. Oh, we'll get there. Yes! The green, aka the black. People have a higher tolerance to the Sun. Their culture is full of overtly sexualized themes. That's all black culture is, right? Because black people's skin isn't full of melanin. It's chlorophyll.

Starting point is 03:04:12 Black people are absorbing the energies of the hold on. Nope, stay with me. They're absorbing the energies of the UV rays into themselves and giving them powers so that they can influence the world how they see fit, causing this fortune to be to befall those who offend them, manipulating the minds of those around them. What they can't control via UV ray mind powers, they control via oppressive woke ideologies. You know, ideologies. Like the people who told her she was fucking nuts, or the evil black family upstairs, who told her to stop physically attacking their two-year-old child, which she totally,

Starting point is 03:04:58 totally didn't do. The failure of Catalica and the re-nation of her reputation in life are all a conspiracy by Big Black because she got too close to reaching a type of Christ consciousness and becoming an angelic being known as the Theerhuntress of the Garden, who would have opened the world's mind to corrupt powers of black people and their monopolizing of UV ray powers. Black and darker skin are, according to the Celestial Hierarchy, created to be a food source, to be hunted, hence why the Messiah figure of the Pink Tribe is the Fairhuntress. She's hunting the black people.

Starting point is 03:05:42 After all, those with more melanin in their skin are closer to plants than people anyway, so it's like vegetarianism. So there you go. This Trigon fanfiction is crazy! Probably the final chapter in Catalica. Alright, black people are plants made to be... Yes, just call me millions knives, baby. You use my people to power your civilization on your pitiful planet. When will you learn their beneath us, Vash. I was like, Tony, look, you're great and all, but you're fucking lying.

Starting point is 03:06:27 And so I clicked and I scrolled. And just capturing the last couple sentences of the final update, I was greeted with the following text. I was quote unquote the lady who made everyone racist. I exposed that black culture was using its influence over UV to attack anything on the planet that got too close to being a fair huntress, which was the ultimate goal of animal evolution in the stellar culture. There was no chance that catalaca was going to be successful. And since we know no white or Asian people have ever turned into black people naturally, and this planet only has one race of females with its pink opposite of platinum.

Starting point is 03:07:17 You are essentially accusing me of being a normal person, a normal woman on the pink throne. You set me up to fail because you didn't want to deal with the success I already had goodbye miss Molly There's some there's some There's some there as we know there are no white people that are turned into black people naturally what is that Oh Is she talking about Rachel Dolos all That's good shit right there. That's pure that is pure uncut

Starting point is 03:08:06 Ain't no fucking dilute that is uncut that is a clean line You know I had actually forgotten the We watched a Documentary on a cult called love has One. Oh, I don't know. I have, you're familiar with that. I have heard of that. It's a great documentary on three parts. I don't wanna talk too much about it,

Starting point is 03:08:34 but it has some nice cult turns in it. Uh-huh. But there's a special moment that when you're particularly one, you're watching or reading a documentary or any kind of breakdown over cults in the United States. You're listening to them and they're talking about, you know, mother god and father god

Starting point is 03:08:57 and you know, the reincarnation of Jesus Christ and all that. And you're waiting and you're waiting and you're waiting and then you get there and then they're like, and then're waiting, and you're waiting, and then you get there, and then they're like, and then the Galactic's contacted us. And you're like, fuck, yeah, we're gonna, aww, we've roped the fucking Galactic's in on this. Like they're cloud ships. I mean, you know what these,

Starting point is 03:09:23 like those like true life, like stories of wild shit, like I believe they start out with the conclusion just to get you in. And does that one not start with a blue person? Like I think. No, it doesn't, it ends with one. Okay, okay, just, yeah. Look man, all I can say is, I remember.

Starting point is 03:09:44 Americans just gotta put space aliens in their calls to me in the Tori when we were reporting over the years on this one infamous Kickstarter. I like I could not have dreamed that this moment of power would occur if you much know if you Glad we were able to nurture and bane the seedling in the water and light it needed in order for it to grow up into this big, strong plan. Good bit. For us to pick this juicy fruit from.

Starting point is 03:10:14 The bit needed to be nurtured over the course of 10 years, and I'll tell you what, if you see me in these streets wearing my fucking knives outfit with the full mask and everything subbing the gun hoe guns don't ask me why you pink because now you know I'm gonna start just flexing and getting my telepathic fucking gun powers going fucking you your UV powers on me. You dare put that thing again at me. Pat! Yo, I have to play this game. Catalica is fucking coated, man. This board game needs the fucking exit like holy shit. All right, out on a high note, that's a podcast.

Starting point is 03:11:10 Oh, that's a good. All right, you all have a good week. Happy holidays. Stay safe on New Year's. Good bye. You

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