Castle Super Beast - CSB 254: Complexion Brackets Operate On The Honor System [1] feat. SirMeowMusic

Episode Date: January 30, 2024

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Music Hey, there we are. Welcome to the show, Billy. How you doing? I'm doing pretty good. Oh my God. Are we starting out with the bullshit already? What did you do? And there we are. OK.
Starting point is 00:00:55 Are we going right now? Yeah, we are back right now. So let's say it was going to be the shortest one that you're muting us because we have the ones after our sentences. What's up with that? You just you just auto delete those from an audio hellscape that is this podcast I I don't need I have video right in front of me. I can see you I have visual confirmation of your numbers. So I have I have there's no problems. I have no verification required I have I've given it my my ocular patdown has occurred
Starting point is 00:01:26 Hey, you know what this is this is a podcast where we talk about Issues of the day we got Billy here. Hey Meow music of once again. I'm a youtuber. Hi. Yes You don't get it before we before we get into that. that willy what the fuck are you doing over on your channel? I am getting like segregationist Vibes just floating over across to my shit. That's wild. I don't these act these are these are wild accusations Alligations they are accusatory. You're giving people little tags!
Starting point is 00:02:05 I am, there's a simple, there's a number and that number is just in a bracket and that's all that is. Now, listen, listen, alright? Like I guess, yes, so we started playing Pow World and as one can imagine, Pow World. Dude, I got so fucking confused. I was like, what the fuck is going on, man? Is there actual segregation going on, bro? So Pow, wait, just wait.
Starting point is 00:02:33 So Pow World. Damn. You know, is a very spicy game with a whole lot of unsubtle, just, here is your slavery, here is your pals, here is your Pokemons with guns, et cetera. And as as you can imagine, you know, well, so last week, I believe we went through the the motions of me. Of course, the discourse and there were many times where I try to do my thing
Starting point is 00:03:02 and push it to the uncomfortable direction that it deserves to go in, only to be met with Power World's power that is the unexpected straight punch. I'm already there. There is no subtext. Fuck you, it's text, right? Right on the surface, as Pat was explaining. So, with that, going into the recording session for this game, people start getting kind of wild with their jokes and their comments. And I'm seeing some of these coming in
Starting point is 00:03:31 and we're like, whoa, hold on a minute, who are you? You can see me, but I can't see who you are. And I don't know if that joke is appropriate. We need some kind of verification system. So then I don't think I think there's that's going to cause more trouble if we have that. And then Reggie goes, we're going to need some complexion brackets after your messages so you could just give a denote of and of what shade on the
Starting point is 00:04:01 character creator, right? We from one five or whatever, you happen to fall into so that when you say some wild shit, it's like, okay, I know who you are. Because, again, you're not a fucking family guy bit, dude. I got wearing it with swatches. Yeah, holding it with swatches. I have two questions. My first question is what verification system do you have in place
Starting point is 00:04:27 to make sure that everybody's using the right number? And also, what's like what like at which shade? Which slurs for shade? I mean, like a full break down. Well, Billy, that's that that's a contextual. That's a societal decision, really. And as a follow-up question, Woolly, I have to ask that if there is currently no verification,
Starting point is 00:04:54 does that mean that like tier two or tier three subs get your like express like heartfelt permission to maybe slip around their number of penalties. Now, Woolly versus runs on the honor system. And, What the shit honor system? And we believe that the integrity, hey, we believe that the integrity of the chatter
Starting point is 00:05:18 is paramount and the chatter will use their brackets honestly. That's the type of society we wanna live in. We live in a glass half full, you know, kind of optimistic of seeing things. And so with that, right? So he mentions the complexion brackets and like that is a proper, that's a good bit,
Starting point is 00:05:42 that's a nice strong bit. It opens up the power world discussion, you know, fully equipped, right? Now I'm prepared because again, it's kind of wild to see shit come in our way and not know who we're talking to, right? So the brackets get introduced and after, you know, after I go, all right Reggie,
Starting point is 00:06:03 I see what you've done there. You know, we take it off, we go offline, and I basically am like, well, let's take a look at our emotes and see how many slots we've got available. And I can make, I can free up some space. So, you know, we just kind of put together, yeah, one, two, three, four, strong bit, you know? So we just, we have some new emotes,
Starting point is 00:06:22 and they're available. And you know, the idea is you just put the number after your statement, you know? So it's some context, it's some context so that I can hear, you know, what's happening when it's coming in my direction. Well, you are standing outside of a live performance show selling cans of shoe polish and
Starting point is 00:06:46 Clown makeup anyone who walks in and do you want the cloud makeup or the shoe polish? And if you decide to use the shoe polish whose fault is that? Listen oh man listen I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure.
Starting point is 00:07:16 I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. In short order, it seems like it's fine so far. We'll see what happens, it's going all right. But that's it, that's how this came to be. And quite frankly, this is what happens
Starting point is 00:07:34 when you try to put baby in a corner. When you introduce a game like Power World and you don't get me, you try to restrict my movements. You know, the cornered mouse attacks the cat. We're going to lash out a little bit. So I've been in here for like two fucking minutes, dude. What the fuck has happened, man? Hey, you I fucking got in.
Starting point is 00:07:59 I said, can I say the C word? You said not that, not the one you're thinking about. The one that rhymes with. Black skit. I don't fucking know That's not at all when I said well what the fuck I mean I did I did approve Honky, I did approve honky. That's true. It's it. It's my to which my favorite to which Pat then said I don't think you shouldn't he be asking me if that's why should I be asking you I'm white right and I'm whiter than you to which to which I guess I'm I look
Starting point is 00:08:37 pretty fucking tomato right now I guess I see my blood to which gross in here to which I've been approved outside to which which I then note that I think you and your people have done enough approving already. Thank you very much. I think there's been a quantity of approvals done through you of this at capacity. I don't approve of this, I was like, wow. So shout outs to Solitus.
Starting point is 00:09:06 I have a dream, you know, that people will not be judged by the color of their skin, but by the content of their character. One. When has an honor system ever fucking worked in the context of racism? I'm gonna be honest, I feel like you're just playing with- Welcome to the podcast, Billy. Welcome to the podcast. Where's the zero on that chart?
Starting point is 00:09:35 I don't feel properly represented by the one. Damn. The- where is the like, the morbbing out level? Yeah, where's my morb- The morb- yeah, the sun will murder you. Anti-melanin, I don't know. To be honest, I mean, look, I kind of looked at it and I went, how many slots am I willing
Starting point is 00:09:56 to dedicate to the bit? And the answer is four. Yeah, I think that makes sense. Yeah, I think we can go harder, but I don't think it's necessary. The four numbers. You know, relatively, relatively, it's just treated like the old soul caliber creative character system, you know.
Starting point is 00:10:13 All right. Hi. Hey, what's up? Welcome. Start off strong. Rolling starts. You know the deal. You've got a podcast or two. I've got you're a YouTuber. Yeah, you know, I'm a youtuber too. I have many I have many a podcast
Starting point is 00:10:29 So you should usually we don't okay. That's a lie. I was gonna say we don't usually jump into like Racism and shit, but that's a lie. Oh No, no not in that way none. No, no way not that way. I feel that sounded bad I feel like every conversation We've had since we've met has been He has got it that way one way or another It's actually fucking true even when we had this fucking at magfist We were just talking about like disco Elysium and at one point would like it just fucking 180'd until like a discussion about
Starting point is 00:11:02 Racism class. Yeah, And I was like, damn, this got deep. Yeah, because it's got deep. I mean, the short version is that Billy kind of bounced on some of the content. And yeah, I was like going, OK, well, I'm not going to be the person who's going to sit here and just go like, what the fuck? Oh my God. But I mean, it's going to tell you, here's the stuff that resonated with me and why and yeah, no. And it did help me with with my opinion on the game because I mean, I want like a one thing you said that really marked me or marked me. I don't know if that's the right word. I'm French guys. I'm so sorry. I'm going to say some Frenchism.
Starting point is 00:11:38 I know why, you know, we've all like, we, we, you know how we we had like different shades of like white white different So fucking tired different shades of whatever Different for shades of French is what I wanted to say Usually we would all switch over into fucking busted French to continue this conversation I Guess I say that this conversation. But the audience isn't gonna understand that. Guess cutu-v-z. Don't worry, let's say, cause it's a question. I guess you gotta say it, though. Either way, what I was saying is something that really stayed with me.
Starting point is 00:12:12 I ain't buying it. I never buy it. I've learned, I'm fucking, it's been five years on YouTube, at one point you learn never to buy it. Something that really, yeah. Oh, it's translating fucking fake English into French on my, like, a DragonStream the other day, and my fucking chat was, like, leaving and killing themselves on the spot. It was like visibly damaging their lives.
Starting point is 00:12:37 I feel like if I could, maybe I just need to increase, like, the racism pressure aura through the screen right now. No, you're good, man. Increase like the racism pressure aura through the screen right now. No good man So that like maybe in about two hours eventually like some the French will just start coming out I don't know we'll see but ooh You want me to call my sister real quick? She has all her words. Oh, she has some choice Oh Dude, I don't give a fuck. I've talked about my sister on my own shows She she's like but the Sun is warm Pat. It's I know it's your
Starting point is 00:13:12 And those feathers might start to wilt Hey, Billy, I mean listen, I'm not getting I'm not bringing up your sister that's that. I don't give a fuck. That's your material. That's your material friend listen, listen, I If you want I can I don't know I don't know how deep we want to get I can I can say the one thing that marked me forever Like yeah, let's do it. Yeah, all right So I know woolly knows this one because at my New Year's Eve party, we had, because like I said, we are, well, like you said, we always end up in racism territory, which is really funny, kind of weird for me.
Starting point is 00:13:55 Huh. That happens. Yeets. Mm-hmm. So my sister, first time she's ever seen my nose piercing. Oh, she fucked this. She I was like I was cooking and then I turn around and I look at her and she's like, oh, you're like one of those African cannibals.
Starting point is 00:14:22 That's the type of fucking like insane cartoonist racism in my family. Oh, hey, so so bad bro Continue comes uh, let's go She said it in French though, so it sounded oh You know what my favorite part is is like I I have told stories about my fucking family and then Same story his brother his brother same same story. Oh fucking no way Can't hide it for long we're what 20 minutes in there came out What 20 minutes in there came out? All right.
Starting point is 00:15:09 But no, but you were saying about what left an impact, you're saying. Impact, that's that's the word I was looking for. You know, I remember we talked about it and because for me, one one thing like we have really similar tastes. And at one point you said when I start that when you like a lot of the disco, Elysium, a lot of the dialogue is very heady and a lot of it can come off as pretentious. And I didn't I listen on my own show, I would never say that because I don't want to get crucified.
Starting point is 00:15:37 But you basically took the words out of my mouth. I kind of found a lot of it super pretentious. But then as we spoke about, as we talked about disco, Elysium and the themes and like you kind of spoiled some stuff for me. But you did ask first and I was like, no, absolutely go for it. Because I feel like I'm I'm literally missing out on this shit. But I promise you what I told you about was literally all within the feels I mean, it's the game.
Starting point is 00:16:01 Yeah, it all. No, because I played way more than that. You you can. You can. I'll stop. The first hour of the game can actually encompass a huge variety. Yeah. Yeah, that's right. Yeah, it could. It could be true.
Starting point is 00:16:17 The stuff I was describing, I definitely didn't describe anything that was too much later. That was all. Yeah. Yeah. Premeasure head stuff. You know, I don't think it's actually crazy for you to describe the dialogue of disco Elysium as potentially extremely pretentious. The game can often feel like you're asking a Nobel laureate for directions
Starting point is 00:16:39 and he starts going off about how race is just a socioeconomic function of class. And you're like, dude, I just want to get a garbage bag. Right. Yeah, no, it goes really deep into like super heady stuff. And in my head, I was just like, man, this is the most pretentious shit I've ever read. And and like after when you started explaining to me like the reasons why you love the game and everything, I went like, oh, shit. I get it now. I understand why people like this game cuz I'm gonna be on I mean to be fair. I hate CRPG's
Starting point is 00:17:11 That's a that's a bad like That's an albatross around your neck to come into the talkiest game that's ever been Yeah, well, I to be fair. I didn't want to play that game I it was voted on by like my Patreon that usually vote on games that I don't like. And then I have to play them. So the way I kind of describe that's not that's not 100 percent true. I'm sorry. OK. The way the way I kind of describe it as you were searching for words was,
Starting point is 00:17:41 I think that on first glance, you might at how like you said heady and heavy some of that dialogue gets and go and it meanders in such a way where it might strike you as pretentious but a little bit further and you kind of see that it's actually very earnest and sincere you know it but like that you have but you there's definitely that initial question which you can get from you know There's a lot of there's a lot of games out there that are quite pretentious in their dialogue and how they handle things and like metal gear I was gonna say metal gear, but I also I listen all I'm saying is that I because I just um I just played metal gear solid three for the first time like two nights ago and I had to
Starting point is 00:18:28 Listen, I had to write some notes about the game and Let me let me just get my notepad gamers don't die. They just respond. There you go. Hey, here's what I wrote Here's one of the notes. I wrote I wrote um This is a game for perverts. Yeah. Dude, holy shit. It's a game by. There's a dedicated. There's a there's a dedicated look at Tittybun. That's fucking crazy. They're at the.
Starting point is 00:18:54 I couldn't believe it. That was awesome. Is the one you're looking for. Listen, all I'm saying is I'm a pervert just because you're making the game. Well, like desperately not trying to beat off doesn't mean that you can't have an Insightful critique of Cold War politics through the lens of a man who meows at you while twirling his little guns See, I didn't know any of this shit I was just playing the game normally and at one point motherfucker starts meowing
Starting point is 00:19:20 Yeah, I was like what the fuck is going on man stare at the ass and also learn about the other definition of muff Some materials on account materials unaccounted for yeah, okay I have to say disco lesion it actually feels like the both of these things are very pretentious But disco it actually feels a lot more earned because you're in universe talking to a guy who is like, proselytizing at you. Whereas in fucking Metal Gear, you're like, oh man, I rescued you from being in hostage, what's up? Have you ever heard about nuclear waste going missing?
Starting point is 00:20:02 Holy shit, let me tell you about the start three treaty. And yeah, and then the thing is they start the three accord and then and then on top of that like the disc Also has a derailleur so that even if you're just standing around looking at things It's it's still got that tone But the I think the example that you you gave Billy was like you're like oh like why 2k vibes, you know No, I never said that. You said that. Oh, I remember. OK, you said that because when you said that, I started laughing because I haven't heard somebody talk about yicking. Yicke. Yeah, that's it.
Starting point is 00:20:33 That's fucking forever. And I yeah. But but no, I know that the creator doesn't like it to be named Yic. Oh, I don't care. I wrote it that way. I thought it was. But he doesn't want it. When it was announced, I thought I did think it was Eek.
Starting point is 00:20:47 But but but no, so the the the. Yeah, that's that's the thing with it. But at the same time, too, it's one of those bits where I'm like, hey, I know a thing or two about what it's like when someone's like, no, you got to get it. And I'm like, I don't want to do that. I'm not going to lock you and go like, here's why you got to give it another shot. It's more just like, here's the stuff that I thought was pretty impactful about it.
Starting point is 00:21:07 You know? Um, also, I think too, uh, there's been a couple of times where, um, the, the, there will be, there's a lot of people that I like meet and talk to the do, you know, similar like podcasts, YouTube stuff like that will that we do. Uh, I feel like our, I take for granted that I'm like, oh, you've probably seen a bunch of the anime that we know or we've played a game that we are all kind of know as well.
Starting point is 00:21:39 And there'd be times where you'd kind of be like, actually no, I haven't, what's that about? And I'd be like, oh, yeah, okay, don't just assume that everyone is on that same, necessarily level or into the same genres and stuff like that, right? I think the second thing you've ever told me, second time we met up, you told me,
Starting point is 00:21:58 oh, you don't like anime. That is a wild exaggeration. No, no, but I remember you said that. Something of the sort, because I remember we were talking about... You were assuming that I watched, I don't remember what, and then you were like, oh, you don't like anime. That is not... Okay, that is not how that went. I was apologizing because I'm like,
Starting point is 00:22:20 so much of what I make reference to with people in like... Oh, wait, that's, yeah, yeah, whoa. In these types of things. I'm gonna stop you both. Okay. Were you two both fucking drunk during this conversation? Cause you both seem to have come away with two completely different fucking experiences.
Starting point is 00:22:39 Oh, no, I was. I'm gonna be honest for like the first few times where we hung out, I thought you thought I was like a raging alcoholic because every single time we hung out I mean you got you got you got turt it was you got turt I got you oh yeah Oh, yeah, why boy get turt it was during fucking that it was like every single time it was at a party It was like for Halloween It was for fucking New Year's Eve and every single time I would get really party, it was like for Halloween, it was for fucking New Year's Eve and every single time I would get really fucked up
Starting point is 00:23:08 and then I'd be like, oh man, he must think I'm such a fucking alcoholic bro. I don't, it was lit. But what I was saying at the time was I was like, oh, I like this is my bad because like in this type of sort of, you know, like again, adjacent to like friends that I groups that I have and things like that, people that know the same games
Starting point is 00:23:31 and the same world and stuff. I make a references in everything I say to other media that is just kind of like, I commonly kind of expect like, oh, or think the person might have seen. And one, like I think I tried maybe two of those and I made references something that like didn't quite land and I was like Oh, hold on let me just let me just stop defaulting to that way of speaking I just like did I just like dead stare at you and you went like oh shit. It was no
Starting point is 00:23:59 I guess no, I think you guys just one like it was what kind of just one like oh, yeah, I think I have to check that out I heard was pretty good. I think you kind of did use kind of say that once or twice and then I was like, okay, okay Let me I did the polite. Yeah, and I'm like right Let me stop just going straight to that point and that's the kind I was like, oh, yeah, okay These are not like wait a second. This guy doesn't know anything about he doesn't get my sick anime references He must I must have to treat him like he doesn't know a goddamn thing in this world. Let me just talk to him like a baby. He doesn't understand.
Starting point is 00:24:29 It's crazy. It's crazy. He didn't know, he didn't know, like, it's like, it's almost as if, like, I was trying to talk to him about Digimon nonstop and then he didn't know. It's like, you don't know about Digimon? What are we supposed to talk about? All right. I don't know how to talk to you if you don't know about Digimon. What are we supposed to talk about? All right. I don't know how to talk to you if you don't know about Digimon.
Starting point is 00:24:47 Love you, Josh. Listen, so. I'm sorry. Somebody actually found the exact time and date and apparently when I met you for the first time at the airport, I tweeted about it and somebody just retweeted that and it's driving me fucking crazy. There's an actual. Yeah, there's I didn't think I tweeted about it, but apparently there's a we are going to add.
Starting point is 00:25:17 Yeah, okay. I don't remember that. Well, that's very nice. I again would like to reiterate I've done so since in previous podcasts ever since so though Yes, the the the story I mean you can you can kind of summarize if you'd like yeah, okay, so I Was it was the airport? 6 a.m. July 4th 2019
Starting point is 00:25:43 Actually was probably way earlier than that but I'm 39 a.m but it was real fucking early and I just remember specific like I'm gonna be honest 2019 so far in my head, but one thing I remember where you try saw I Wish I was drunk dude. At least I'd have a fucking excuse man. I don't have an excuse for this shit. Oh my god um, I remember I don't have an excuse for this shit. Oh my god. I remember Specifically I saw your catamari duffle bag and I remember being like yo, that's a fucking sick ass bag And then I looked up and I was like Goal that's wooly and I thought to myself I was sitting down like right behind you You know like those seats that like like you're there and I'm on like, we're back to back.
Starting point is 00:26:25 And I remember I was like staring backwards. I was like, oh, oh, fuck, that's wooly. I gotta, I gotta go say something. I can't, I can't let this, what if I never get to see him again? But I gotta go see him. And I was really nervous back then because I had just starting,
Starting point is 00:26:43 I just like starting YouTube, just starting all these things That are new in my life. I just remember like I was like no Do if anything do it for a podcast story because that's how my brain works. So I got up I got up I Went towards you. I Stare I stared at you like this because you were sitting down and I just said, are you wooly? And I smacked my lips. I didn't do that. That would be fucking creepy. And you, all I remember is you were, you were sitting down with like, you had like, you
Starting point is 00:27:20 were like holding your head like this, down you looked really fucking tired and you just looked up like this Hey, man Yeah Maybe maybe you didn't go like actually like slow like that, but I just remembered you looked up to me and you know No, this is your telling you were Yeah, I barely remember this. It's forever ago. By all means. You just looked up and you went, yeah, man.
Starting point is 00:27:50 What's up? And then I I don't remember exactly what happened. I just started talking like, oh, I'm a big, I'm a big fan. I used to watch your stuff all the time. The. And you were like thanks man, and then when you said thanks man in my head I was like I need to keep talking to him because I think he's a really cool dude and In my head, I could not find anything else. I was like I got to find something that we can both relate on so I just said
Starting point is 00:28:26 I'm a youtuber by the way, and you took out your phone and you were like on your phone and you were like, oh that's cool. I hope it goes well for you. And then I said, no, you don't get it. I'm a YouTube, it's my job. It's my job to be a YouTube.
Starting point is 00:28:50 And then you you looked at me and you said, Oh, what's your channel? And then I just like we went like I told you, oh, my channel is please stop talking. You looked me up on Twitter and then you then you just stared at it like this. And then you went, pretty good. And then I, at that point, I had the realization of like, wow, that entire interaction was really fucked up and really bad.
Starting point is 00:29:23 And I literally went down in like the depths of the conversation Pitten just fucking shoveled my fucking own grave. I need to run. So I just said Nice talking to you and I ran away and I sat like as far away from you as possible Because I was so fucking embarrassed of how I acted and then they start Wait and then they start calling us on the plane and I just like it like I I don't remember who I'm pretty sure you went in first because Then I I remember crossing like I crossed you to get to my seat and I didn't like a little wait wait wait wait wait hold on Like I crossed you to get to my seat and I didn't like a little wait wait wait wait wait hold on
Starting point is 00:30:12 Every time I've heard any variation of the story. I thought this was like you guys leaving the airport This is you are no way we were arriving plane. Yeah, no, we were getting on the plane. That's so much more embarrassing Yeah, no because it's even more embarrassing because I sat no I sat behind wooly Holy shit, and I would I sat behind wooly and I was just like during the entire flight And I remember specifically was a flight to Denver and I was just sitting behind him and I was just like Just staring at him and the entire time I was being tortured in my own head like what if if he turns around and points and laughs I'm gonna Do something fucking drastic The irony in some ways is that what you just described is a disco Elysium red check. Oh, yeah Really just described when you fail a red check.
Starting point is 00:31:05 Yeah, no. Yeah. But, so, this then, I heard the retelling of this on Please Stop Talking when I was doing the slump stream. Yeah, forever ago. If I'm honest, like, the way I told it back then is probably more accurate, because... It was closer to the time. Yeah, yeah, because it's been like so long. 2019, I can't remember that part.
Starting point is 00:31:25 Well, again, that's very flattering and nice. And I just have to like say that there are two things, obviously the time of the day taken into account. I notoriously have resting bitch face. Notorious. You got it. Right. No, I know. We, like, I saw it like when we were at the airport I'm like at magfest. We were both like at staring at each other and talking slowly and when I when I agree and when I Resort back to just like default listening mode. I just my face goes back to the to what it is, but people who are
Starting point is 00:32:02 There are there have been massive moments of misinterpretation of that. One of the most recent ones being when- Oh, did you do this again to somebody else? No, no, no, it's not even that, it's just in terms of my resting bitch face. There was a bit where there was like one of the TikTok where Pat was talking about the bears
Starting point is 00:32:22 and how it's impossible to make a bear trap that is. That bears are too stupid to open, but people can. Stupid people can. Right, and so I was laughing at that bit and then you switched it over into talking about how it relates to the baby and to elbow. And I went back into this. Oh yeah, I saw people talking about this, it was so nuts.
Starting point is 00:32:43 And I just went back into just like, I'm listening to what you're saying mode and they're like wow this dude hates children Look at the way his face drops the moment he starts talking about babies I'm like oh my god like you psychos like I'm literally just going back into baby was racist It's wild it's crazy, and I Listen, it's wild. It's crazy. And I saw that, I was like, oh God. I can't, it's just the fucking resting, listening mode I go into when I'm paying attention
Starting point is 00:33:12 to what someone's saying. I'm sorry, you know. But. No, it's fine. I mean, you just kind of became my mister shakedown for like a few years afterwards. I was scared walking around in Montreal at one point you just like I just see you and you'd fucking fucking towards me and grab me or I don't know.
Starting point is 00:33:32 I mean honestly not only was it like not at all a negative thing it was just it was a very normal interaction and it's also the type of thing that like I've had you know many interactions with people that I've met out in the wild and some have been like significantly bad and weird and worse. Oh I've had some negative interactions. Right? Yeah same. It comes with the territory sometimes you meet people who are a bit... Yeah, so I can... Excited. That's it, right?
Starting point is 00:34:09 And, et cetera. But I can assure you that that was a very normal ass thing and that I'm sure the lens of like, there's a cringe lens on this, but it's a one-way mirror, you know what I mean? Like it was a very normal thing. I don't fully remember a lot of it. I'm going to be honest, but you say that this is not the first time it happened. I did it
Starting point is 00:34:33 to Scott the Was. I did it to Nostalgia Critic and I did it to Jare from Scott to Network. I think it's just a me thing. I'm fucking, I'm so embarrassing to be around, bro. If it was any worse or at all notably bad, I would have remembered more, right? This really reminds me of when Paige and I, my wife, Peach's alive, we went to MagFest and I was a DMing slow beef.
Starting point is 00:35:04 I'm like, yeah, we should hang out and have a lunch or whatever. And then I just happened to run into him on the street and then I'm like, hey Paige, honey, look, it's slow-beef. And like she turned around to see him and she just started to cry, just cry. Just like just embarrassing. And that that is how she reacts.
Starting point is 00:35:32 I think she she met Pat and Oswald years ago on a show and did the same thing. Like she was like, I love you. Come on. It's just like, so there's there's words. I mean, I don't know. It that's kind of awesome, though, because that's that's really shit. Youh, so there's words and- I mean, I don't know. That's kind of awesome though, because that's really shit, you know? That's genuine.
Starting point is 00:35:48 But like- That's not what I do. I just kinda, I'm just kinda cringe. But like crumple into a ball is infinitely more like, wild and memorable. It's memorable. Yeah, it's memorable. I feel-
Starting point is 00:36:01 Did I fucking tell you about like, the first person I met at the first magfest I went to, Willie, did I ever tell that about like the first person I met the at the first magfest I went to woolly they ever tell that story on this show I'm not sure okay so like deranged fan interactions we go into the lobby of the Gaylord I'm like oh I gotta take a pee okay so I go over that that that for you know the there's the reception and there's the first bathroom like right there so I dip in I go to the urinal and I'm peeing and a guy walks in and goes, hey, Pat! And I'm like, what?
Starting point is 00:36:31 No. No. No. Not here. No. I have my dick in my fucking hands. What are you doing? And you look like super embarrassed.
Starting point is 00:36:42 And I'm like, just do your business and I'll just be outside. Just, I'll see you in a second. Just give me a minute. Mm-hmm, mm-hmm. The bathroom? After urinal, after you can't do that. The bathroom, the bathroom field is a very particular field
Starting point is 00:37:01 because I know that vibe of like, oh, shit, there he goes, right? Or that's like, oh, shit, there he goes, right? Or that's like, if you're in the zone where urinal and stalls are, you just can't. You just can't, you have to just abandon it. If you're at the hand wash or walking in or out of the door, you can give a head nod. You can give a head nod like, hey, what's up, right?
Starting point is 00:37:21 You can give a brief one as you cross and that's the energy, but you have to be mirrors, hand wipe or by? Right, you can give a brief one as you cross and that's the energy, but you have to be mirrors, hand wipe or by the door. You know? I'm like fully midstream when I hear, hey Pat, like no. I'm not doing this. I'm not doing this.
Starting point is 00:37:34 Oh, more relaxed than you. See, what I'm saying is midstream is bold, you know? You gotta go, listen, if you're gonna do that to me, you gotta do it before I start. And then it stops because you're like you're like ready and then you got to get it It's a whole thing and Jesus. I don't know if I I'm gonna be honest if I was at the urinal and the dude next to me at the urinal was like Hey, man, love PSD. Just gave me a bro fist. I'd be like fuck. Yeah, bro Yeah, of course, I would fucking bro fist a man at the
Starting point is 00:38:05 urinal that's fucking badass dude that's fucking awesome what are you talking about it's not be imagine okay even fucking no fucking cares you wash your hands after you're here you know what your hands after business oh my god little pee pee boy pet doesn't fucking wash his hands Oh the reversal There you go, that's how you use it You're telling me that if I put a fucking washing station next to you everyone just can come piss all over you
Starting point is 00:38:38 I know it's good Whoa, whoa, whoa, what the fuck are you talking about? We're talking urinals, we're not talking about fucking golden shower shit, what the fuck are you talking about? We're talking urinals, we're not talking about fucking golden shower shit. What the fuck are you talking about? You've lost your mind, you're crazy. You have lost your mind. You've lost the fucking blood, brother. No, I don't give a fuck.
Starting point is 00:38:55 I'm washing my hands after. Billy, welcome to the pod, baby. You're doing great. You're doing great. I love it. I love this. Listen, I'm just saying, if I go into a fucking bathroom stall, I start fucking shitting and somebody down at the, you know, Bro! You're doing great. What the hell? I love it. I love this. This is fantastic.
Starting point is 00:39:06 Listen, I'm just saying, if I go into a fucking bathroom stall, I start fucking shitting and somebody down at the, you know that little crack at the bottom? Somebody get like, yo, tap me up, love your show. I'm like, oh yeah, fuck you. That'd be fucking tight as hell. I'd never forget that, dude. And you know what? Afterwards, I'd get out of that stall, they'd get out of that stall, we'd fucking hug it
Starting point is 00:39:24 out, we'd wash our hands, we'd be fucking golden. You know why? Because I wash my hands. Bro, I can't believe. You are, you're a prude, is what I'm learning. embracing of this behavior somehow ends up at me not washing my hands. I can't believe the fucking leap of logic here. If you wash it, it's like, no, no, no, it's like, you know, motherfuckers, like, bros be kissing and saying shit like, ah, no homo. Yeah, that's basically the no homo of the bathroom world, dude.
Starting point is 00:40:04 You're not fucking ready for what I'm about to spit. We fucking be hugging it out in the bathroom post piss. You're not fucking ready for what I'm about to do. You are not ready, Billy. I'm really? I'm about that life, bro. I'm about that life, bro. Billy, I want you to know that you have in fact done me
Starting point is 00:40:25 a massive favor by justifying all the times I almost piss my pants. Oh my God. Rather than use a public bathroom at all. Okay, if I may, just I'd like viewer it. Oh my God, you are approved. Little bit of extra context here. This is beautiful, I'm loving this,
Starting point is 00:40:42 but the listener needs to know as well, just so they catch the play. On the instant replay, in the middle of that volley, Billy dropped little Pee-pee-boy Pat, specifically as a pre-mortar strike, because before we started, he specifically was asking that he not be called Pee-ee Boy Billy, which was a nickname. Except Matt, okay. No, it's because at Magfest, I got, dude, I can't, like I drink a lot of water, I piss a lot of pee, you know? So people started calling me little Pee Pee Boy Billy
Starting point is 00:41:19 because I kept getting up and going to piss at the bar. To which Pat then went, okay, cool, as he locked it and loaded it into his weapon, preemptively as ammunition. I don't think I have. But did not get the chance to fire. Listen, all I'm saying is PP. But PP boy Pat works more because there's like the PP and the Pat, you know?
Starting point is 00:41:38 Yeah, I mean, absolutely. I just need to do a little instant replay to catch the listener up on the brilliance of the mortar. Tactical. Very nice. Alright, so... Bro, you're nasty as fuck! Oh my fucking nasty, I washed my hands. I mean, I've seen... You can't get me. you can't get me.
Starting point is 00:42:05 You can't stop me. I like to think that usually there's enough divider between each of these stalls and and urinals that like there's a space that's created organically. But I have been to urinals that are just one wall waterfall. And I have seen pictures of cursed toilets where there are just many toilets lined up with no division in between them Like cursed toilets Twitter account just has pictures of like that shit where you're like I don't understand where or how this could be How can we get to the point where you've gotten the plumbing down, but you said nah fuck the actual walls?
Starting point is 00:42:41 where you've gotten the plumbing down, but you said, nah, fuck the actual walls. Insane, is that boot camp shit? Is that what that is? I don't know, man. Yeah, yeah. So, yeah, the communal shitting is a dark energy that I'm not ready for at all. Anyways, there you go.
Starting point is 00:43:02 That's a little bit of what you're about. So this is the part. Yeah, man. This is the part where we'd be like, hey, Billy, what have you been playing or watching recently? Yeah, what have you been up to, man? I've been I mean, I feel like we're with everything coming out at the at the same time. I feel like anything I say everything coming out at the at the same time. I feel like anything I say pretty much everybody's going to have played it.
Starting point is 00:43:28 I've been playing Tekken 8 pretty much like nonstop. It's like the only thing I've been doing. That's a good start, considering I was completely going to skip Tekken 8 until I took my email this morning and they sent me a code and it went to my spam and I hadn't even noticed. Oh shit, well there you go. So I was playing Tekken 8 this morning and I'm like, well I got the Wi-Fi at the house. So you know what? I'll give Tekken's Netcode a try on the Wi-Fi and I'll see what it's like if you do the prioritized response option in the menu.
Starting point is 00:43:59 The special Wi-Fi. And it's completely fine. Dude, I've been playing with friends in New Zealand and on Wi-Fi and it's been zero issues, which is fucking crazy. Yeah, the only I can't believe I run into is people going having like a five bar match with you and you knowing it'll be completely fine. Oh, yeah. And they go fuck you. So if that becomes a problem, I'm just going to
Starting point is 00:44:23 jury rig a fucking ethernet cable and spoof it into the back of the goddamn computer. Yeah, there's, yeah. So the second to last beta, the penultimate beta was like pretty spotty on the Wi-Fi and not on the Wi-Fi, on the connections. I was having tons of issues with that. The last beta, I didn't have as many, but I didn't get as many games in. And having done it now, it's been pretty smooth. The first day there was actually a bunch of connection issues. They were, I think, well known and being tweeted about, and I was getting crashes on connections on day one, but everything after that seemed to be pretty smooth.
Starting point is 00:44:58 And yeah, there was someone that, like yeah, Zee's at MagFest, shout out, like a dude flew over from Kuwait who was like able to get some decent matches in Tekken 8, you know, so yeah, yeah Yeah, but it seems as if like things are Working, you know and and what I like too as well as so the indicators they've taken it to the next level as well So because yeah, we all played some Tekken right be a good time to just jump in on it back and forth
Starting point is 00:45:27 So they've got the wired or wires wireless or wired indicator when you connect to somebody They've got the connection strength, but they also have if you're doing cross play in particular the PC CPU load and they have an indicator that shows you how heavy the person's processor is loaded up at the moment. Oh, interesting. So you can actually see if it's not the connection. Like, listen, this guy's computer's getting, it's crunching a little bit too hard. Your connection's fine, but it's the actual setup that's struggling 100%.
Starting point is 00:45:56 Oh, that's great. Really smart to put that out there. Yeah. A useful tool because if you, you can't, that has nothing to do with your internet, you know, if you're, if you're't that's that has nothing to do with your internet, you know if you're if you're Looking at that. So Yeah, so far so good with that with the connections, you know, mm-hmm Yeah, how did what was so like what have you checked out so far and it had you had you find it? I Mean so so far I've been
Starting point is 00:46:19 Cuz I had a lot of editing to do since we just came back from MacFest and I got some crazy concrud like I was just fucking sick. So I didn't want to go online when I felt like crap. So I've been doing a lot of like exploration of the single player stuff, all the content that's very impressed by it. I was talking about that this yeah. It's fucking arcade quest is probably the most comprehensive like beginner friendly Tutorial I like I really like it as a tutorial for fighting games Because it puts it instead of being like very like like fucking bash your head in with so much information It gives you it like trickles down
Starting point is 00:47:00 Like information slowly to the player and especially for Tekken, Tekken has a lot of fucking, a lot of shit. There's like move lists that are like 100 fucking pages long. They're like, hey, here's four moves that your character likes to use. Do you want to learn how to use the heat system? OK, give me a combo using the heat system. Yeah, yeah, cool. And I think let's have you fight a little tournament so you can see what, you know, what's what. Yeah, and it takes the best part is, oh, cool. And I think let's have you fight a little tournament So you can see what you know, what's what yeah, and it takes the best part is oh, sorry
Starting point is 00:47:29 I would say that like so what it does is it feels like it takes some world tour in Street Fighter 6 in a way and kind of just Compresses it into a much shorter Condensed experience. Yeah, so that it's yeah, it serves as just a tutorial, you know But it's still a tutorial that has like context. Yes. Like and a little story. And I think if you're new to fighting games, I feel like that's the perfect way to get into it
Starting point is 00:47:54 because you still get the vibe of like what the fighting game community is like, even if it's like a virtual like, it's not real, like it's a little virtual thing, but still, like you can still get the vibe and see like the the community aspect while learning. Yeah. And it's just so well done. So I really I think it's really funny how the part of the way the quest is set up is you know
Starting point is 00:48:17 it's kind of like your your Pokemon sort of like adventure crew going out there you know. Yeah. But like they definitely do the thing where they're like, okay, you're a new person walking and joining the community. Here's the best friend all around her. Here's the girl who just likes costumes and wants to get, she's all about the aesthetic
Starting point is 00:48:37 of dressing up the character. That's a huge part of Tekken's customization options. It's part of its identity really. Here's the dude that just wants to do cool moves, whether he wins or loses. I just want to see cool moves, dude. Right? And like all of these people are having fun
Starting point is 00:48:50 in different ways that you totally should be able to and that are very valid. And then there's the super try hard, the hardcore coming in, right? And it's like the guy who's like, I want the tournament, I'm looking for strong opponents, you're all weak. And he like walks out and it's like, oh yeah, well we're gonna show you, there's like, and it's like the guy who's like, I want the tournament. I'm looking for strong opponents. You're all weak.
Starting point is 00:49:07 And he like walks out and it's like, oh, yeah, well, we're going to show you. There's other. It's not that's not all that matters. We can enjoy the game. Another was that I, but also we're going to get strong and beat you. The I did that this morning and I was rolling my eyes because they're like, hey, man, just because you might be better at us doesn't mean that we don't. We're not just as valuable members of the community. And we're going to show you that playing with the costumes or just seeing cool
Starting point is 00:49:31 moves is just as valid. And we're going to show you that by training super fucking hard in the lab and placing tournaments. And beating you. Right? But it's the idea of like, oh, here comes the gatekeeper. If you encounter this type of person, don't let that discourage you. Right? And then you spend time going to each different arcade, and they all have their different specialty. And here's the arcade that's all about people that want to show off their characters design. And here's people that want to do this or that. And so, like, you know, and that that reminds me of like, yeah, again, the Pokemon team going on their adventure,
Starting point is 00:50:06 all focused on different things. Because in this case, right, many people that are like, going to be like, oh, it's all people that are justice. What the same guy that's like, it's all about strength, nothing else matters. And it's like, actually just having fun with these games is a really fun thing, you know, for fun, for glory, for like, like the, like the, the shit I do on getting to
Starting point is 00:50:24 fighting games, you know, like there's ways to just set little, little, like you can have fun in tons of ways that's not just about like getting top eight, you know, so it's fun to integrate that right into that game. But get top eight though! A lot of the things that I really like about, because the little four moves that it tells you like, hey, check out these four moves. These are important to your character and these are like the basis of their play style. What's cool is that it changes with every tutorial.
Starting point is 00:50:55 So it, like the way it drips feeds it, it also adds like, okay, the reason why this specific move is important is because it's a tornado and a tornado is a combo extender And then it goes on to be like this move is important because it can with punish a shit ton of stuff Or it can like just block punish a shit And it like really goes deep into it, but it never feels heavy-handed or like like you're you're getting like it doesn't feel heavy It feels good. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:51:26 Introduce the concept and demonstrate one example of it. Yeah. Yeah. And all and I and since every single arcade is like has like the specific opponents, they will use like like, I don't know, you you learn like a power crush move. And then you fight against an opponent and they're going to constantly like they're going to constantly be like you need to use a power crush move to win at this specific arcade. Yeah. Behaviors. It's good. Yeah. Yeah. It teaches such good behaviors.
Starting point is 00:51:57 So that was something I first think I saw in them's fighting herds and then they showed they did it a little bit in Street Fighter Six World Tour. But here's an opponent who just blocks everything and you have to learn how to crack that open, right? Work your throws in. Here's an opponent that likes to just be aggressive. What's the way to kind of play around these different play styles is something that's very useful.
Starting point is 00:52:18 I opened up my get into fighting games with this, but an even better educational tool, especially if you've played some tech in before and you're a little more familiar and you're coming into this with a basis, the fucking replay system. Incredible, dude. So good. And and yeah, this was something that was introduced at the end of tech and seven with the one of the the later updates. And what they basically have, and I put out a little video on it,
Starting point is 00:52:48 just breaking it down is, I've asked for a feature for a long time now, I've repeated it all over the place, where it's just like, if we're using, like when, especially when Harada's talking about like AI, it's like if we're using AI to create ghosts and mimic players' play styles. That means we're looking at the moves they do
Starting point is 00:53:06 and when they do them, like the shadows in Killer Instinct, for example, does like, okay, round start, what do you like to do? When you get swept on the ground and you get back up, what do you like to do? What do you like to do when you're in the corner, right? And it just, it actually reads all these things and then creates a profile of a ghost player
Starting point is 00:53:21 that fights like you. So if it has all that data, why not take it and actually go, hey, here's somewhere where you actually could have a profile of a ghost player that fights like you. So if it has all that data, why not take it and actually go, hey, here's somewhere where you actually could have done something better that you might not know about. This game, it actually implements that. My version of it was after the match,
Starting point is 00:53:36 suggest two or three things and let you go in and try it. Here, you're watching the replay and it'll stop the match and go, by the way, when you block this big explosion, you can actually do a punish. Here's something that you should do that you can do right afterwards, you know? I can't believe they actually went through the trouble to include that.
Starting point is 00:53:52 Incredible. That is complex. It's honestly incredible, yeah. And it's so good because it's like, it pauses the game, it tells you, do this after you block this big explosion, and then you can press X to go into like the little training mode menu to like Practice blocking and then doing it or and I find this much more realistic and useful
Starting point is 00:54:12 You can do the replay takeover which lets you take 10 seconds of the replay and at any point you press a button You're now in control of this sequence to actually do it in match You know you can even you can even like because yeah, sorry, you can like either take control of you or you can take control of the opponent in the specific moment. Like a so that you can see like literally every fucking possibility of what could happen depending on what you're doing currently. It's impressive, genuinely fucking crazy. And you get to see as well that like,
Starting point is 00:54:49 so this is the recommended punish, but in the situation that happened in this replay, it was like, oh, I'm fighting against Victor and he did a version of his explosion with the sword that was in heat, so it made it actually not punishable in the same way. So it's like, oh, the regular version can, this tip will work, but in the replay takeover
Starting point is 00:55:10 when I tried to do it, I was like, oh, it wouldn't have worked here. So I need to know about that too. So I learned right off of the bat in one replay. And when I often tell people, like if you can check out your replays, you can see things, right? You can learn from them.
Starting point is 00:55:22 This game is making it so that you don't even have to go through the, like, you don't have to parse how to watch a replay. It's doing it for you in a way and telling you, here's a moment where you landed a crumple, but you did a very light combo. Here's a very, here's a better combo you can use or something simple, you know? It's really interesting because there's also a function. I mean, these are obviously someone had to program these in, right? A human being had to write these. These are not automated. Yeah, they're in there and they're basically set to,
Starting point is 00:55:50 there's four categories it breaks down to, which is recommended combos when you have an opportunity, recommended punishes, how to break a throw, let's coming left or right, and moves you can duck under. So it's not all possible things, it's just those four categories, which are pretty big, you know?
Starting point is 00:56:09 But like those are the most broadly applicable, but it also means that like it has to keep the developers a little bit more honest than maybe usual, because if you do your replay and you go, what is the suggested punish for this situation and the the fucking game goes die I mean, I'm not gonna lie that's happened a few times while I was watching my replays It just pauses at a certain point and it's like you're fucking Fucking die here. Yeah
Starting point is 00:56:42 Sometimes it just like pauses on a moment and just like they put you in a bad situation. Yeah, you shouldn't have done that. I mean, what it what it means is basically like you shouldn't have done that. The that's what they they're talking about the way. So the the particular instance that I was describing is one where you can take over and try every possibility and kind of realize there was none. It was checkmate and confirm it. But the funny part about this, which has become hilarious and toxic online, is when dude's like, nah, it was like,
Starting point is 00:57:15 there's what the fuck was I supposed to do? And then it's like, oh, send me the replay. Let me take a look at that for you. And then the better player will go in and drop, I fixed it for you, here's what you should have done. Just to like, reupload, like yeah, I solved your problem actually, you were just ass. That's your bad skill issue.
Starting point is 00:57:32 And here's your homework. Damn. Showing you, you know. So like you can either use it for educational or fucking toxic purposes. You know, and I love that you get that information just watching. I got that from watching my first replay. You know, I turned on the options and then I just looked at it and it's like
Starting point is 00:57:52 I like to personally like, you know, I like labing. I like learning and going into and watching a bunch of habits and things like that. This I learned so much using these tools from watching one match, you know, and that was what I looked at. You can watch the video that I put out about the Tekken 8 replay system and see like, yeah, we just go through the span of one match and learned like five or six really important, good things about the new character who's Victor Chevalier, who's just fucking Noctis in cosplay, you know, and teleporting all over the place. He's wild, so you need to listen to him.
Starting point is 00:58:26 People hate me because in Tekken 7, Noctis was my main. Oh man. People fucking hate me. Oh, they're gonna hate you now. Yeah, they can hate me now because I'm now a maining fucking Victor. He's so fucking fun. No, come on.
Starting point is 00:58:41 That's what Reggie was doing. That's the, oh. Because it's what it is. Listen, all I'm saying is he's cringe. It makes sense, though, because like Noctis is a character that's French. I'm French. I'm cringe. We're both cringe. He's coming in with the Parisian accent, though, talking about like. Yeah, no, it's different, you know.
Starting point is 00:59:01 But the the Noctis, like a bit makes sense because it's like, here's a guest character coming from a very popular franchise. And a lot of people that don't, that have never played this game are going to be just playing Noctis for the first time that our final fantasy fans. So let's make him really adapt that move set over and make it really simple and not be, yeah, something hard to play. Right. Similar with Elfelt actually in Strive, when they're like, a lot of people
Starting point is 00:59:23 liked Elfelt as a character in her design, but felt her stances and stuff were too complex. So let's just make it a very beginner friendly character. And like, yeah, Chevalier kind of takes that spot. Did you? Yeah, did you check out any of the Dark Awakens? I want to talk about, listen, I don't I'm not going to spoil anything because I think Dark Awakensens the main like campaign likes Following the story of Tekken. I've always loved the story of Tekken for how It's kind of dog shit It's so genuine it's so fucking real bro
Starting point is 01:00:02 It's so fun and Genuine it's so fucking real bro. It's so fun and the amount of fan service that they crammed into it like Dude Tekken 8's campaign fucking peak. It's so fucking fun. It's so crazy I've seen some shit and it looks dude. I haven't seen anything yet, but I've heard a lot of people are like this one's great But I'm really excited back They brought back like some music. They bring back music from the previous games in the most hype fucking moments. And it's like, bro, they know what they're fucking doing. They are so like, oh, it's fucking awesome, bro. A couple of people have told me that it's like, it's the fighting game story mode, but like,
Starting point is 01:00:43 they're actually getting good at it is what I've been told. Yeah, it's like they know what they're doing and it is cheesy, bro. Perfect. I'm it's so I'm jumping into that this week for sure. I can't wait. Yeah. I love to as well. It's I'm very happy that the arcade mode endings are still as insane as they need to be. Oh, they need to be there.
Starting point is 01:01:05 They're not. And I just I only did one that they went back. I'm actually glad they went back to CG, like proper CG, because I mean, Tekken 7, I think had like a lower visual novel. Yeah, no, no, no, they they all the cutscenes were like done in engine. And they were right. Like they were videos, but they were videos done in engine. And were right like but they were videos but they were videos done in engine and it was like not great now they're going fucking balls
Starting point is 01:01:31 to the wall again. The intro cutscenes are pretty like visual novel-y like they're kind of sliding yeah it's fine you know but but yeah the endings are need to be the goofy everyone remembers the tech at premium and all those classics right so yeah Steve Fox's ending is the only one I saw and it's exactly what you kind of hope for. It's so silly, it's so stupid, it's awesome. His face being is so weird in that game and I'm like, what is happening with his model?
Starting point is 01:01:57 And it's like, I almost want a head canon that his ending explains why his face looks so weird. It doesn't at all, but he just goes on to become the multi-class boxing champion and he goes from middleweight, welter, all the way through the classes and when it gets time to go to heavy, we gotta fucking get huge, it's huge quest time. And so Paul and Law just walk in on insane giga-chad Steve.
Starting point is 01:02:24 Like just deformed burst like it's hey guys or back in character. I'm right. Yes. Yes. Kangan Ashura like fucking absolute backy mode, you know, and I'm like, yeah, tech ends back. That's it. That's the endings you need. The new characters looks like buffery who I'm not going to lie. The the the new characters like I my main thing for the longest while was why are we only seeing returning cast? Where's the new and the three we got? I really like all three of them. It was going to take a lot to pull me off of King and Devil Jin and
Starting point is 01:03:02 Reina is like the Tekken character I've wanted to play for like 20 years. Oh yeah? Um, so I don't know how much you've played with her, but there's a character that she's emulating from a different game. She's- she actually plays a good deal like Ayane from Dead or Alive. Oh, okay. Because purple characters can spin through their stances. Okay, okay. For some reason. So I, yeah, I did mess with her enough to get most of it down
Starting point is 01:03:32 and there's the hybrid Mishima stuff. There's the Hey Hachi moves that are right there. And then there's the, all the spins and rolling extra stuff from her, I forgot the name of the style. So that's like, I don't know. But that's like Ayane. She's got all the stuff from her. I forgot the name of the style. So that's I don't know. But that's that's like Ayane. She's got all the stuff from Hayachi. I actually liked to use.
Starting point is 01:03:51 And then she has a bunch of kicks from DOA. Hmm. The rolling lows in the. Yeah. You get to so you get the fun of all the electrics. You get her. Yeah. That stuff that Hayachi has to which was just like the
Starting point is 01:04:06 112 combo or one two two all those different the two two two one Right, you one. I always liked the most from Tekken 3 you got you got a lot of yeah I'll basically hold on dead or alive six's director was the lead planner on Tekken 8. Okay, so that is intentional interesting Interesting, okay. Yeah, it feels as almost as if her punch buttons are a hatchy and the kick buttons. Yeah, better kicks, sorry, Anais. Are the unique ones, right. She also has like easy wind godfists.
Starting point is 01:04:35 Oh yeah, she's got a couple of those, right? She's got the step version off of down forward two and then the actual input with the electric and then like failed electric true electric and then when you're in heat mode you can get the full one the kazooia version. The Doria, Doria, Doria, Doria. And it's just like do I need the good version?
Starting point is 01:05:00 Okay, I'll do the good version. Do I just want to juggle them one more time? I'll do the baby version with the one button. Electric Wind God kicks, right? Multiple things out of the step. Yeah, and then a lot of just attitude in her moves and her command grabs, right? A lot of stuff where you go into just something
Starting point is 01:05:21 where she grabs you and does something with attitude. And I'm like, yeah, I like that energy. We said it before, but it's like, it really is a bit of that like, oh, what if we just went, Asuka do over, right? With, but like, Hey, Hachi instead of like, like, John. Asuka with Mishima energy instead of Kazama energy. Exactly, you know, and I mean, I've seen some people, again,
Starting point is 01:05:45 hating on the design, but I'm like, it's simple and it works. Well, I fixed that design by giving her a little hat. Oh, the hat's cute. Yeah. Fuck yeah. I believe I improved on it by taking the jacket off and giving her glasses.
Starting point is 01:06:02 You know, I- I gave everybody a low taper fade at hand, I'm gonna be honest. So I, I- I gave everybody a low taper fade into its hand. I'm gonna be honest. So I was messing around with the character customization and like, do you unlock more of them later? Cause like so much of them is just casual clothes. Like the vast majority of them is just casual wear. I know you get a bunch from doing arcade quest
Starting point is 01:06:26 and then when you do the final round or you're training your ghost, there's a bunch of randomly respawning treasure chest characters that give you the third costumes as well. So I wanted to go, because like Steve's costume, I fucking, I hate the new costume.
Starting point is 01:06:45 But it's like, I'm just like not feeling compared to the other. There's also a rotation. You have to when you go into like arcade quest, there's like the specific ghost, super ghost thing lobby. And there's a road like when you beat all of them, you exit and you come back. And then there's another gang with like new treasure chest. That's what I was just talking about. I'd final round where you do the eye training. You can exit and go back in and see the repop. Yeah. And I was doing it over and over because I was like please let me find Steve to get him to take his jacket off. And thankfully
Starting point is 01:07:23 his third outfit is wonderful. And it's just the fucking long winter bomber jacket, you know, with the casual go where underneath. And I was like, yeah, that's just, that's perfect. I wish that was his default, you know? So yeah, yeah, I'm like, that's a really fun thing too, as well. I don't know if you guys messed with Azucena, any?
Starting point is 01:07:44 No. Okay. Not at all. as well. I don't know if you guys messed with Azucena, any? No. OK. Not at all. She's so much fun to just like dance and move. And she's got the vibes, you know, a lot of her she's she's also fairly quick to pick up, I'd say, you know, like her. Yeah. Her basics, a lot of the things that move you into her stance are there's a lot of different ways to get into it. And once she's in that stance, the Libertador, I think,
Starting point is 01:08:10 that's where you can get the, and in heat, you get the counters, right? So if someone throws essentially like a high or a low or a grab at you, it auto dodges and then does like a counter hit and it's really stylish. And so like you'll probably see a bunch of replays of like her just walking up to somebody like, go on, hit me, go ahead, what you gonna do?
Starting point is 01:08:31 And then just completely everyone's swinging and just getting rocked. So for those who don't know, you gotta hit her with a mid, right? That's the way you get around it. But it's so intimidating because she can just like, from full screen almost heat dash right up in your face like swing first, you know
Starting point is 01:08:47 And then yeah She's also got like a couple of command a couple of grabs that are like, you know take downs one plus two high and low Just a really yeah fun and simple kind of character and yeah The the swag of everything she does is particularly like it's rewarding. It feels good when you do it and you land it You know, yeah, a lot of a lot of my friends who are just now getting into fighting games thing she does is particularly like it's rewarding. It feels good when you do it and you land it, you know? Yeah, a lot of a lot of my friends who are just now getting into fighting games is like we've been telling people like, no, you got to try it. And like, actually, it's a great teaching tool for like fighting games
Starting point is 01:09:16 in general with arcade quests. And a lot of them are like gravitating towards her specifically. She's like a lot of beginners are really into her play style. So there was that that like the tweet that was going around right on launch was the screenshot of the quick reference screenshot for Jin. Oh yeah. And that was becoming that was the discourse right. And like as someone who got sent that Ben people were like how do you just how do you just crypt these moon runes dude? And it's like yeah and if yeah, and if you're a beginner
Starting point is 01:09:45 and you see a star, you're not gonna know what a star means, right? And I've always thought that personally that like- It means pause, idiots! Yeah, that's not common knowledge. No, I've always thought that like the star should be just a white dot and that the arrows could have like the dot included at the center point
Starting point is 01:10:04 to just kind of make it like, oh, no arrow, right? It's kind of, you can improve the language of that. But that thing was going around as if it were a beginner's reference chart, but it's not. It's made for people who are picking up perhaps gin for the first time, but are already familiar with what Tekken move lists look like, you know? Because they've taken-
Starting point is 01:10:21 Like I could use that for Rana right now. Right. And Tekken move lists, they also not only do they do things like have a star on them, but they don't say button one button two button three button four with just a circle in the number they actually show you all four and then highlight the color of the one that is the you know in the the d-pad orientation that you that you'd be expected to play or stick um so it's just like yeah this is not meant this was not meant for that purpose. So when people kind of bounce off of that and like use it as a means of going like, look how impenetrable
Starting point is 01:10:51 just the shit is, it's like, this is not the the proper context. This is like a community. This is a fan made image. And first of all, that's not, you know, like meant to be like, it's not like beginners going around as like, Hey, here's hey, brand new person to Tekken. Here you go. Exactly. It's not. It's, hey, Woolly, do you want to catch up on Jin in about 10 seconds? Here you go. Next year monitor. That's it. I've never if I've never played him or like if I've played other characters, but I want to pick up Raina.
Starting point is 01:11:18 OK, here's I look at this and go, got it. That's that. That's that. So the thing with it, too, of course, this conversation just goes on forever. So the thing with it too, of course, this conversation just goes on forever, but there was even when I kind of was explaining that, well, Tekken does have a really long move list and it's always been that way. And it's-
Starting point is 01:11:35 It sure does. And that's if you're just kind of like completely out of this and you're not even sure where to start or what to go to, it's not the first place I would recommend people to go. Well, they have- but the things they've done that are helping are like they've made the short move list, for example, right? Where's the key?
Starting point is 01:11:51 The recommended move list. This is what's important to this character. So when I was learning Tekken 5, when I was learning Tekken 7, when I used to go and play with the community and stuff, that's how it was handled. It's like, hey, there's only about 10 of these moves that you really need to know,
Starting point is 01:12:04 and then the rest are just part of the extras, right? community and stuff, that's how it was handled. It's like, hey, there's only about 10 of these moves that you really need to know. And then the rest are just part of the extras, right? But all of this is like, what it actually breaks down, and then someone kind of was like, hey, that's patronizing, don't tell, like if there's an easy mode, and I was like, you can also, there's a modern mode equivalent, which is there, which is a button you can toggle on,
Starting point is 01:12:18 which I find very useful as well, because it's like, modern, I like how they implemented that, but in this case, here's another version where it's like, it's on and off at the toggle of a switch in the middle of a match if you's like it's like modern. I like how they implemented that. But in this case, here's another version where it's like it's on and off at the toggle of a switch in the middle of a match if you'd like it. And you can access it and then go back to the regular setup if you'd like to. So it's like just implementation. I could imagine. And I think the reason why is because it wants to give people the, you know, it's like, don't
Starting point is 01:12:39 feel shy to use this when you want to. And then experiment almost like with having the ability to press the Hadoken button or try to do the motion, you know, like, well, the other thing is that it to me, it's like, I mean, Street Fighter 6, we saw a variation where some people were like, this the modern version of this character has advantages that nobody else has because of the way their moves were like, like modern Zengi, right, has like one button 720 is nightmarish and that's not the best for everybody. But this essentially goes,
Starting point is 01:13:10 do you wanna switch to the version of the character that can do this more easily? And I believe there's a damage difference. I'm not 100% on that, someone can confirm. But I do know this, it gives you essentially access to like four easy combos or a move that are important. You know, what is I think crucial every time this discussion happens is that when looking at it and going like whether or not this is something that beginners should use and again, sharing people go like, no, they should just
Starting point is 01:13:38 learn like the rest of us and don't be patronizing about these modern modes and stuff. I think it's like, there are many different kinds of new players and beginners, right? Some people that are like, like the people that are already playing Tekken, we all started somewhere. And there's people that are like more willing to take on the unknown, if they don't know what's going on,
Starting point is 01:14:00 dive in and they'll see in the move list, oh, here's the 10 key moves, they'll start messing around, they'll start pressing buttons, and they're already learning, right? People that don't know are that are willing to go find out. They don't need that extra part of it. And so they're fine. That's fine. They can just discover the game the way we all did.
Starting point is 01:14:16 For there's some people, however, who are much more nervous about this stuff and do need to be told or reinforced like, hey, it's where should I start? What should I look at? And if they see something like that, they'll see the chart with the gin moves and be like, this is kryptonite. I'm afraid of this and I don't want to interface with it. Right. And then you have a weird third category, which I've fallen into and which I've played every Tekken game and I've put thousands of hours into it, but I've never been any good at it at all. And I've never played, I've almost never played against other people.
Starting point is 01:14:46 So I'm like, yeah, yeah, you know what? Slather me with some tutorial sauce. I was messing around with Eddie Gordo in the demo disc back in the day, and I kicked my cousin once or twice, and I always loved it, but I never really went that, yeah, just long time admirer and fan of the playing casually,
Starting point is 01:15:03 for sure. And that's all, there's different types, right? And so it's definitely important to like have things there for people that are nervous or about interfacing or do wanna figure that out. I mean, it's the same way kind of people will ask like where to start when getting into a given series or so or like they're like not a hundred percent sure.
Starting point is 01:15:22 So, and a whole part of why I do get into fighting games, the way I do is to show that it's like, you don't have to overthink it, you can definitely just start playing and having fun. But these things can only benefit, you know, giving people these options. It's a really, I'm glad it's there. Techna, ain't it?
Starting point is 01:15:38 One thing that I, oh, sorry. No, no, after you, man. One thing that I think is really fucking cool though, is if you want to dip your toes into like Because I know a lot of people have like struggle with going online and actually like fighting with real people One thing that I think is really cool is because of the ghosts like the ghost battles and everything You can still dip your toes into like play against other people and seeing their play styles without actually having the pressure of going straight online, you know? Yeah, you can.
Starting point is 01:16:07 A lot of my friends I've been talking to, they were like, well, I'm too scared to go into tech and arcade lounge, but I can just jump in, like fight against like random people online without the pressure of being online and like all the mental blockage from that. It's cool. Getting different styles of, if you're gonna play,
Starting point is 01:16:28 if you're someone who was gonna train against the CPU, getting different styles of CPU certainly is a difference. I remember going back to Virtua Fighter 4, like there was the ability to go tour and fight against different arcades, best players, and then see the unique styles of that they would play. So like adapting, you know, a particular player style into the into the computer is
Starting point is 01:16:51 like, yeah, there's there's there's utility to that as well. There's a limit to it, of course. But but the ability to, you know, get better in a low pressure environment, I think, is what's most important to new players. Yeah. Good game. I like it. I'm going to play more. I think it what's most important to new players. Yeah Good game, I like it. I'm gonna play more. I think it's pretty good I'm as someone who was definitely like looking at all the new fighting game releases and seeing shit like you know Six came out and was just so fucking stellar and you know MK happened I was definitely like, okay, okay, I'm not sure where Tekken is.
Starting point is 01:17:29 I'm hopeful, but I hope the net code's good, which it works. I hope we get new characters. The net code is fine. I hope we get new characters, which we did, you know? And then now we got all these extra features that I just learned about, and you got these ways to learn, and then the story mode is working.
Starting point is 01:17:45 And it's like, yeah, this is great. This is great. I'm very happy with it. And it's it's it's finding games are back from the dead again. It's just again again. It's just Steve's jawline. Yeah, how are you playing, by the way, guys, like I'm playing on. I'm playing pad. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:18:05 Tech is tech is why the fuck would I ever use a stick? Yeah, I've never been able to play on stick. I know a lot of scene arcade kids that would play a place. Hey, I have a question about that for your are there any one for inputs in the game anymore? Yeah, there are. There's a couple? Yeah, when you're Leroy and you call in Sugar, when you call in the dog, that's one plus four. Okay, cause on pad, historically, I would always put both punches on R1 and both kicks
Starting point is 01:18:44 on R2 and both kicks on our two. And that would cover that. But then there'd be a fringe amount of inputs using two, three and one, four. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And they've decided to go, one of those this time around is a fucking universal command. Yeah. So you slapped that on the L one. So I don't know if this would be comfortable for others, but what I recommend and the style that I've gotten used to and that I like a lot is L one and R one are left throw
Starting point is 01:19:18 and right throw. You're insane. OK, well, that's what I do. You've lost your mind. Oh, sorry, not L one and R one. Sorry, well, that's what I do. And you've lost your mind. Oh, sorry, not L one and R one. Sorry, L one and L two. Oh, OK, excuse me, excuse me, excuse me. That makes a little more sense.
Starting point is 01:19:32 I said the wrong button. L one and L two are left throw and right throw. R one is the heat mechanic. R two is your your rage art, rage. Yeah, rage art, right? Yeah. So the throws are right there, you know, and then my fingers are in Tekken fingers mode, which means I have my wrist up and I'm tapping.
Starting point is 01:19:54 Oh, I don't do that, I use my thumb. Yeah, I guess use my thumb. So because I have my fingers in Tekken fingers mode, it makes it a bit easier to do the one plus four or the two plus three. But also it depends on the character, I suppose, but the way like Steve combos work, it playing with Tekken fingers makes it so much easier to do like his, his faints and his
Starting point is 01:20:15 one, two, ones down for one, two, one personal preference. Yeah. But, but like so, but the Tekken fingers is a thing they've called it for a while now because you're treating the pad as if it were like half a stick in a way. Good shit. Anything else notable Billy? Otherwise we just passed the call.
Starting point is 01:20:38 I watched it. I mean, I watched it. I watched Wonka and it was fucking excellent. I don't know. You mean the musical? You guys, yeah, you guys ever talk about musical on here Musicals by proxy of having a musically obsessed wife a couple of times musical page with love long No, I'm cuz fucking excellent. It's made by the Paddington dude and it's it captures a lot of the the same like And it captures a lot of the the same like
Starting point is 01:21:09 It's weird how well it captures like the magic of the movies I hate when people say that but it's it's like it feels pretty good. I really like Salome Walker. I think The only thing I heard about it besides the trailer was just the other trailers fucking terrible I'm gonna be honest the thing thing I saw was just like, hey, we got Hugh Grant for the Oompa Loompas. I think the Oompa Loompas, I didn't know that. And it's just like- I didn't know that until he showed up
Starting point is 01:21:34 and I was like, what the fuck is going on, bro? But then it's just like, and the curse of Peter Dinklage strikes again where more little people can't get work because they just refuse to actually cast them anymore between that and seven. No, just shrink them with snow and snow white, you know, like like like, like, the Dinklage makes like one interview and just fucks over all little people.
Starting point is 01:21:53 Holly, what happened was is they were going to do that anyway. And then you're everybody get to lay the blame on Dinklage, including the people doing it. Okay. Well, either way, you know, I's the only but I caught with Hugh Grant. That was good. That's it. Dynamo, that's it.
Starting point is 01:22:13 No worries. We don't really talk about anime in my place. Sorry. No, anime is cringe. Okay. I guess I'll jump in a little bit because yeah. Yeah, what's up man? TechN8 was of course a big part of it. little bit cuz yeah, what's up man tech at eight was of course, you know big part of it
Starting point is 01:22:27 Beyond that yeah power worlds, right? Some good. I am astonished I saw the all the hey, will he's playing power world like oh cool and then the next day. I'm like, oh, hey Will he's playing power worlds again? Yeah, I was thinking about it. I felt like going back in a little more, I wanted to see if I could, you know, get a bit more, yeah, one. I wanted to see if I could get a bit more into the genre. But also, and this is, and realistically, it was a day that I was scheduled for originally to do the audiobook for Disco Elysium.
Starting point is 01:23:05 And I didn't feel like having a big talking day. I know what you mean. I need to kind of rest up and prepare before that type of like book reading stream. So I kind of was like, yeah, I kind of just want to have a more like, more of what we just did. So I doubled up on it.
Starting point is 01:23:21 The clear thing is if you know the genre, things are gonna go a lot faster and a lot smoother. I'm learning about survival games through this game. And with that, I'm like, here's what I kind of know. I know that you take the axe to the trees and you take the pick to the ore. And you know what I mean? And there's like, and then you build your base
Starting point is 01:23:45 and you do the stuff. What I definitely was not thinking was like about things like optimal base placement or the range of the circle of your. Yeah, you figure that out. Exactly, right? So there's a whole bunch of things that like now I know them, but I certainly was just, I was just rolling with
Starting point is 01:23:59 whatever the game threw at me at the time. It is Jank is fucking early access. There is T-Posing galore. There is falling out of world. There is crashes, nonstop survival games, baby. Woo. I'll tell you. All the same. Somebody who's played a good deal of these.
Starting point is 01:24:16 Power World is on the upper echelon of stability on release. Yeah, I was I was going to say, I've been playing the because there's there's a steam version and there's the game pass version. They're both different versions for some reason. And the game pass version, I was surprised because I'm not paying for it. I knew I wanted to check it out, but I didn't want to. I knew I wouldn't like get super into it. OK, you've gotten into any. How weirdly it's weirdly weirdly well
Starting point is 01:24:48 optimized for what it is. It's like weirdly well polished. I was expecting arc survival to evolve, if I'm honest. Interesting. Okay. Because yeah, I mean, I'm looking at it just going, I guess this is early access, but all I'm seeing is the jank, but yeah, I have no frame of reference for the genre. The reality of that genre for all the moving parts on like an open world and the building and all that causes lots and lots and lots of stuff to break. Yeah. Also, I imagine too that like,
Starting point is 01:25:17 this is a game that has like aggressive like pal pathing as a major thing that not every level game is gonna have. Yeah, and like people are complaining like, hey, if I put my shit inside my house, the pals break, this pathing as a major thing that not every survival game is gonna have. Yeah, and like people were complaining like, hey, if I put my shit inside my house, the pals break. This pathing is terrible. Yeah. I'm like, I mean, you can always grab him and throw him around.
Starting point is 01:25:31 I think the pals pathing is actually like shockingly adequate for the what you're actually asking to do for this game. I've seen it fall apart at the most basic of tasks where things will just go ahhhhhhh right and then you have to grab it and throw them. But I've also seen it navigate a fairly complex like labyrinth I've created, you know, of things to get around and find out, oh the door's here, get out here, go to the back and like that thing, you know. So it's very competent sometimes and very jank at others As you guys know that you can actually like throw a palsphere at a human and just after them Yes, I did not know and now I don't have any more pals
Starting point is 01:26:14 So well the fun part is that human pals are dog shit compared to their Terrible yeah, but it's funny. So but you learned the first dark secret of Powell world of like, oh, you just enslave the person, right? And then, you know, dude, when you capture one, there's a little message that says, this shit's illegal, bro. This is inhumane. And then don't do that. But then you go to your boss and you pull them out and you're like,
Starting point is 01:26:39 oh, you're useless. You're bad. You can't help me at all. You can transport. Oh, fuck off. You know, I'd rather get me at all. You can transport. Ooh, fuck off. You know, I'd rather get one of those little like EV things. They can do way more than you can. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:26:52 But no, so the, yeah, the wall I hit definitely was one of like, oh my God, okay, the mental checklist is so like aggressive if you're not used to this, you know? So it was like, there was times where I just had to talk it out loud because I would always be like, okay, here's my objective. Here's the things I need to go catch. And here's what I need to unlock to get to the next step of the base. But there would be these steps that are like, we get like five degrees
Starting point is 01:27:20 obfuscated from the original task, which is, that's all right. Right. Go get the word that apparently, is... That's all right. Right. Go get the wool. Apparently you can sell the humans you capture in a pouch. They probably can sell your pals. Man, I didn't know you could... I knew you could sell your pals. Do you lie to the students?
Starting point is 01:27:38 They're all pals. Do you line them up on an auction block by any chance? Oh, man. I haven't seen that feature yet. Anyway. Always ends back here, doesn't it? No, yeah. And then, of course, the butcher mechanic does. The butcher mechanic is where you get the fucking cleaver, you know. And then they put out a short of just like a little animated thing of like,
Starting point is 01:28:02 oh, yeah, we're leaning all the way into it. Here's one of them little sheeps getting cut the fuck up in the cutest way possible. Ha ha. Oh, good for it. Yeah, so I just kinda like, there was a couple of moments of like, just the mental stack, you know, to use that term,
Starting point is 01:28:19 is like, go find the sheep to get the wool, to get the cloth to repair the suit, but also to make the next thing which is part of the objective, which will allow me to get the crossbow. And I'm like, so really, every time you're outside, just just scoop up everything you could possibly fucking see. But then you get too heavy and you can't walk around anymore. So you got to be careful about the scooping up of too many things.
Starting point is 01:28:43 There's some pals that help with that. Just get a pal that helps with. Oh, I don't have any. Bring him around. I don't have any beasts of burden yet, I think, for the beasts of burden. No, it's it's a it's a random skill that some of them. Yeah, it's I don't think it's random. I think it's like a specific how has it. OK, I keep wanting to say Pokémon so bad.
Starting point is 01:29:04 I'm going to don't do bad. I'm gonna don't do that Yeah, so I was also quite surprised by the the way that dungeons work, which is like there's a timer and then the instance like Disappears, you know, and I guess that's that's again a product of it being like an online environment, right? You can and I guess I was, because I'm looking around, and I'm like, I don't know what I'm supposed to be thinking when it comes to making second bases and stuff, but I took a crack at it, and boy, like so we played two, I did two streams,
Starting point is 01:29:36 and then I kept playing a bit afterwards on my own. And like, I put my second base down in the red area where there's a bunch of ore, right behind that Elden Ring church, that's fucking Elden Ring. And like a minute later, I just got like fucking gang rushed by like a bunch of level 21 water pipes.
Starting point is 01:29:57 I had a very similar thing happen, yeah. And I'm like, what the fuck am I, I'm nowhere near ready for that. And they just annihilated me. That means you're not ready for that. Exactly. Exactly. I was like, okay, got it.
Starting point is 01:30:09 Got it. Mission accomplished. Shut it down. I then kind of was like, went back to my base and I started messing around with the thing I didn't do on stream because I was always just, again, the mental load is a lot. And I want to get better at that because I can see how organizing and taking doing this stuff is fun, but I'm also remembering how I got so overwhelmed by like Warcraft 3 back in the day
Starting point is 01:30:31 and just too many tasks is just like, I can't keep up. So I do want to get better in this, but I kind of went and set up a bunch of, after placing everything in kind of like ramshackle spots, I went, let me clean this up, organize it, put things close to where they need to be, and then build a nice fortress of wood all around. Multi-layered, got my bed. Nice flammable fucking wood.
Starting point is 01:30:57 Got my fucking gates, got the barrier perfectly set up. Here comes the invaders. It's a fucking suicide bomb elk or whatever the fuck that is. Uh, up in flames goes the gate, up in flames goes the base, everything sitting on wood is now destroyed, you are now back to zero. Aw. Grab your water, Pokemon, try to out the fire. It's not gonna work. Sounds like it's time to learn masonry. So like
Starting point is 01:31:27 Hours maybe of setting up my wood base Only to hit that and be like two and a half hours. I was a lot. I was I was I said it I set it up and then I didn't I was too I didn't like how organized it was so then I tore it all down And then I did it again, you know to make it it more efficient. Oh my God, never make it perfect. It's just gonna break. I actually genuinely have a piece of advice for you. I'd love to learn. Efficiency comes after security.
Starting point is 01:31:54 Okay. So, yeah. Have you ever played Minecraft? No. Like, no? I played it once to do a block of the day for the block of the day account, and that's the only time I've played it. I've done no, I've done no games like this really.
Starting point is 01:32:07 OK, I was curious because I was like, that's like rule number one after like, don't dig down. OK. So I think I said it to normal difficulty for those who asking. And yeah, so what I just I'm like, OK, well, now never put anything on a surface like that Everything is gonna sit on the raw ground where the fire can't catch to it And I'm just gonna create a bunch of wooden gate fences that just block off The places that need blocking and everything else inside is just we sleep on the ground fucking I don't care, you know
Starting point is 01:32:41 Yeah Survival yeah, but yeah, what do you guys like what do you how do you make better priority list base head? Objectives go. Oh, that's actually fairly simple. There's two things that you actually run in your head. Number one is what is my biggest problem? And two is what is the thing that I want the most? So for you Willie your largest problem is your entire fucking thing burning down so you would be looking at gates
Starting point is 01:33:13 fences or masonry or defenses right leveling up getting like leveling up to get the new technology that gets you like the leveling up to get the new technology that gets you like the nicer structures and shit like that. That's what I would go for. Now, what about when that stuff is all like you can spend all your time focused on base improvement and like Unlocking all those things but not enough going out into the world and exploring is happening. Oh, no, you'll have to do it eventually You'll have to do it and also like while you're gone. I, while you're gone, I don't think you can get Invasion.
Starting point is 01:33:46 I think it's only when you're in the base that Invasion is happening. Really? They only happen when you're there. I mean, because I've never had one while I was just out exploring. So I kind of assumed that when you're exploring, there's no none of that. OK. That's why a lot of people, like how people use, like, second bases. That's resource farms. That's resource farms. Yeah, resource farms. You have like basically your main farm
Starting point is 01:34:10 and then the second base is like your resource farm because when you're not on that base, you're not going to get invaded I think. Okay, that's what I was hoping for. I'm not sure. Do they share? Oh, nevermind. Apparently they absolutely can.
Starting point is 01:34:24 I'm totally wrong. Now we got two guys on this podcast Do the resources share when they're in between bases. No You have to know standing in that circle. You have to go to them. Okay. Yeah, and yeah What I mean, there's a trick for you. There's a fest Yeah, if you put a box next to those resources and there's a pal on In that base with the transport ability. Yeah, it'll pull shit up off the mining facility Oh, yeah, yeah, just put in the box for sure. I set that up perfect Yeah, that's the first thing I did was like have the boxes going
Starting point is 01:34:58 I did get raided and then leave and then the raid ended and then they came to my first base So I think they just travel the entire way, you know, to wreck my shit. I also like fucking started a fight with an overleveled pal that then when I responded my base, it hunted me down and killed me almost immediately. Oh my god. I had that fucking woolly mammoth like tear down half my fucking base. Insanity. I was mining and I got too close to the rocks and I hit it by accident. Okay, okay Someone says on normal difficulty you want to go to the options and double the resources. Yeah, I did that To reduce the grind. Okay. I mean you could just get you just fucking kick it up to whatever the fuck you want I see you can do whatever you want in this this game. If you don't like the grind,
Starting point is 01:35:45 you can go into custom difficulties and just like make it zero grind. I'm not a fan of grinding, so I wouldn't mind certainly. Yeah. A double seems to be pretty correct to me. Okay. Yeah, and I did build my base on like the cliff side broken church, you know.
Starting point is 01:36:03 Oh yeah? Yeah, next to where you start. Seemed tactically like a useful thing. I wasn't thinking about location at all when I built it. I was just like, oh. Yeah, you were just like, yeah. Following the tutorial, but yeah. I did it next to the lake down a little bit.
Starting point is 01:36:17 The beach? Yeah. Okay. You know, you just go down from that church. Oh, the first lake, yeah. A little waterfall and a little lake. I thought it would be pretty. Oh yeah. Gotcha. That's where I built as well. Apparently, that's
Starting point is 01:36:27 where a lot of people build theirs. Because it's the first. Because it's fucking pretty. It's fucking pretty. There's sheep around. I guess. Well, wide open seems more vulnerable, though, right? Like that's that's not if I build fucking walls. Yeah. Not if you get a gun. I think or is also missing from my setup. So yeah, the best take away from this Particularly with you playing it woolly is that there's this like ha ha Pokemon, but you make them slavery ha ha No, there's a real ass game in there. Uh-huh. Yeah, it's actually it's weirdly in depth and it's weirdly Good because I'm gonna be honest craftopia kind of stinky yeah craftopia was made with sticks and glue it does have it does have unity asset gorilla and that that's a banger I hope that that becomes a
Starting point is 01:37:13 pal in pal world a lot of though there's so much of it that like because craftopia was the hey look it's the breath of the wild like thing right yeah and here it's not like they're beating the accuracy. It's so aggressively still breath of the wild. Yeah, it's very much. Every shower you look at, every time you float, every time, you know, all of that. To me, it's the heat, cold indicator being literally exactly the same that makes me laugh. Or climbing walls and your stamina is going down, you know?
Starting point is 01:37:44 Yeah. But no, I'm in it because I do want to get better at handling that mental stack, but it feels so overwhelming. You can see me in the two sessions on stream just like kind of like saying it out loud and to be fair, Reggie's there too and he's also like,'s, we're both kind of in the deep end on it, you know? Gotcha. So there's a bunch of times where I'm like, I can't even say anything funny right now
Starting point is 01:38:12 because I'm just trying to remember. You're just locked in. That's it, you know? Yeah. Yeah, but that's pretty much me. That's a Tekinit and Powell world. Pat, I know you had a journey to Hawaii. Oh, man.
Starting point is 01:38:27 OK, so I'm going to just start right away with an incredibly. I'm going to describe that I'm up to chapter four in like a dragon, infinite wealth. I'm only going to talk about story line wise, like maybe up to chapter two. Okay. Comes out swinging with secret Americans, right out the gate.
Starting point is 01:38:58 Oh, let's go. Get America of all places. No, in Japan. Oh, okay. Oh, Japan. Oh, okay. Oh shit. Okay. Like nice. The evolution of the secret Koreans bit. Yeah. And the person who's a secret American you go. Oh yeah. Yeah. No, no. Makes sense. Yeah. Like there's absolutely no like,
Starting point is 01:39:21 Makes sense. Yeah, it's like there's absolutely no like, oh, I can't believe it. You're just like, oh yeah. It is difficult to understate how much they gloss over the events of Seven. Really? Damn. They, there's like, you know, the itchy has like a little grave to the people who died in seven
Starting point is 01:39:47 And he can pray at it and it goes hey man. Do you want to reminisce about the events that happened? Hmm, you know, yeah, and it just gives you like Like five or six lines of text of like the most bare bones things that happened and Then you start playing it and they're like, oh yeah, remember this cutscene from the end of the seven? And I'm like, not if I was a new player, I wouldn't. Oh.
Starting point is 01:40:13 Like that, like you are expected to have played seven walking into this like, like, genuinely. Most of the Yakuza games are like, when it starts out, like you have to have the lore in your skull when you get in Yeah, a lot of times they really put well except the yakuza 7 because they yes, the other seven was the clean yeah So there's better. There's there's some stuff. Yeah, there's zero and then there's seven Mm-hmm are the two entry points. Yeah, basically the game is also like
Starting point is 01:40:48 I'm very early and it is already the most absurd It has ever been but I'm not talking about the zany side stories I'm talking about the core plot has some it has something in it that is as Absurd as the rubber bullet reveal from no I hated that reveal so much. No, that's the best What are you fucking kidding me you like that? I am What are you fucking kidding me? You like that? I am so here for it. I'm so here for it Oh, man as again as someone who's just known a bit of zero and a bit of seven it feels as if
Starting point is 01:41:35 Zero has the absurdity relegated to the side quest dimension mostly it's actually very it's played straight. Dead straight serious. Oh no, it's like very, but yeah, it's very serious. But I feel like Ichiban's main quest is also absurd. It is very absurd. So in seven, so he brings that absurdity to the main line in a way. Oh, absolutely. So the impetus of the game, I'm going to go through like the generalized like synopsis of like the first chapter second chapter Okay, is that well after the events of Yakuza 7 like a dragon Ichi has quit crime and hero wing and is now working a regular ass job and is a civilian and everybody likes him etc until a
Starting point is 01:42:26 wretched traitorous untrustworthy vtuber cancels him and Him and his all his buddies lose their jobs Wait like that at that as literally actually absolutely How current? Wait, like dead ass VTuber or like? Actually VTuber? Absolutely. How current?
Starting point is 01:42:48 That's fucking awesome! Contemporary. Oh man. The VTuber Tatara channel. Is this a real VTuber or is it a fake VTuber in the game? It is a fake VTuber. But there's no fake. Fuck.
Starting point is 01:43:04 Oh my god, That's fucking awesome Okay, so Tatara channel puts out this fucking video about how Ichi is only working his job So he can do secret crimes and here's a bunch of edited video tapes that make him look fucking guilty as fuck And it gets cancer and it's fired and all his friends get fucking fired and they're broke and you walk out of the hello work that you work at and your job changes from hello work employee to freelancer and you get the tutorial prompt from the beginning of seven
Starting point is 01:43:39 teaching you how to root through the garbage to find change. Oh my God. And back to the basics where we started. And it is, it is. And then they're looking at this fucking hit piece video and they're looking through the comments and in the comments you can see avatars
Starting point is 01:43:57 of some existing extremely minor characters talking shit about the party. No way. Including the guy who works at the movie theater that wears a chicken costume to scare you away when you're falling asleep watching a movie is posting, Tatara Channel is the last bastion of journalism, I can't wait for more.
Starting point is 01:44:25 So, as Yakuza games have always been just like, again, through the lens of someone older and adult looking at a lot of these stories. Is there a part of this where like VTubers are, like getting canceled by a VTuber, it sounds like the most 2024 shit that is possible. And Ichiban is not a 2024 motherfucker. No, because he doesn't understand what's happening. That's, yeah.
Starting point is 01:44:56 So I'm like, is there a part of this where he's like, what is even any of this? He gets accosted by drama YouTubers outside his house. Oh my God. Who are filming him with their phones He gets accosted by drama YouTubers outside his house. Oh my God. Who are filming him with their phones and trying to instigate him. Oh fuck. And when he slaps one of their phones, they're like,
Starting point is 01:45:13 oh edit that, edit that, we can get five million views on it tomorrow. And then when the fight's about to start, they bring in a different guy who's the bodyguard that they hired to defend them. And that guy is a real YouTube boxer who scanned himself in and acted himself out for the game. Huh. Man. Fuckin. That fucking rocks. I'm thinking so so. So like influencer just showing up and being annoying in World Tour. Weak was a god. Shit on this man. Wow.
Starting point is 01:45:53 God damn. OK. So yeah, there's a lot of that stuff. The game is it's it's it's fully into the clown dimension and Curious Curious involvement in the clown dimension and Kiryu's Kiryu's involvement in the party further cements it in the clown dimension because now you get to see how Kiryu handles problems from like one step backwards. In which they will both they'll deal with their their problems and the fire and ice methods.
Starting point is 01:46:23 Is K-San has fulfilled every dream that she ever had. As she appears in game as a like voiced character as a lady named Kay from Georgia, who's in love with Kiryu and texts you about Kiryu all the time. Is is Kiryu kind of like plkinning his way in the background? Kier you. Sons of little extra skinning. Yeah, absolutely. OK, OK, OK. I went a little bit into some of the minigames.
Starting point is 01:47:00 There's a crazy eats, which is Uber eats, but crazy taxi. Yeah, I think I saw that. You actually don't get paid anything but tips. So get out there and rush your ass off. Yeah. Um, and there is a dating mini game called Mismatch in which you have to pay a huge subscription cost in order to be able to message girls. And then you have to play a mini game in which you have to pay a huge subscription cost in order to be able to message girls. And then you have to play a mini game
Starting point is 01:47:26 in which you have to do a micro dating in order to set up a real life in person date in which most of them are old dudes or homeless guys or chickens. Yeah. So like most of them catfish you, but a couple of them are models that did promotional videos for the game.
Starting point is 01:47:51 It's amazing. Everything about the gameplay is way better. You can now fucking move around while fighting to get good positioning. Oh, okay, in the RPG system, yeah, okay. And of specific note is the incredible quality of the localization. It is probably up there for the best localized game
Starting point is 01:48:15 I have ever seen because of the incredible difficulty of the strangeness of the setting they're dealing with. You're dealing with characters who do not speak English, going to a location in which everyone speaks English in English, and you have to get across how many times they don't speak English or do speak English or don't, and there are scenes that don't make sense
Starting point is 01:48:48 or wouldn't because like you know you deal with cops and the cops there all the cop I'm talking to just speaks Japanese but every now and then despite them doing their best there are moments of like genuine localized genius. Okay. And one of which I will relay. So early on, Ichy can't figure out how to get a cab because he doesn't speak any English, right? And he's in Hawaii.
Starting point is 01:49:17 So he starts walking up to cabs with his fucking phone out with Google Translate Up that says, do you speak Japanese? And you do a little thing where you go from cab to cab to try and find somebody who can actually talk to him. And so eventually you do find a guy, a native Hawaiian guy there, and he is going, oh yeah, I totally speak Japanese,
Starting point is 01:49:38 come on, get in, I'll take you wherever you need to go. This guy attempts to rob you because he's an asshole. And this is your first day in America. So he immediately tries to rob you a gunpoint. You beat the piss out of him because you're the main character of like a dragon game. At which point he sees a couple of cops behind you and goes, oh, shame you're going to jail for robbing my cab.
Starting point is 01:50:07 So in the original version, the localized version, the actor goes from speaking Japanese to itchy to speaking English to the cops and goes, this guy just tried to rob my fucking cab. And then the cops respond in English and you start getting arrested. Okay. That scene wouldn't make any sense if everyone could speak English.
Starting point is 01:50:31 Right. So what they do is have the cab driver go from talking like some regular American jackass to putting on a fake racist ass Asian American accent and running at the cops and going, oh, help, I can barely speak English. This guy, he tried to rob me to go along with his mannerisms. And then itchy doesn't have enough time to explain. Like there's tons and tons of situations. I'm not doing the accent, fuck you people. There's tons and tons of situations. I'm not doing the accent, fuck you people.
Starting point is 01:51:07 There's tons and tons of situations and then you abort it. Or they have to like workshop their way around the situation despite the fact that Hawaii was picked as a location because it has a large Japanese speaking population. Okay, so he made the scene seem like we both speak Japanese and I barely speak English and Yeah, guys come help me
Starting point is 01:51:29 Okay, okay, okay. Yeah, I took a say okay got you Has to change its context because of the language barrier, right? Okay, okay? He switches and when he makes the switch that's treated as the moment. Gotcha, okay. Cause yeah, I was gonna say like, do they, cause sometimes, you know, some movies or shows will just like not make any attempt to distinguish. No, it's actually like a big deal that like your main cast does not speak
Starting point is 01:51:56 the primary language of the place you're at. Sometimes they'll subtitle and go like, oh well, they're speaking English and you're hearing the dub, but now it's subtitled to indicate this is another language. You will also see, yeah, well, they're speaking English and you're hearing the dub, but now it's subtitled to indicate this is another language. You will also see, yeah, there's dialogue in brackets. Oh, there you go. Yes.
Starting point is 01:52:11 Is to tell you the characters can't understand it. Right, right. Okay, this is happening in English, yeah, perfect. But yeah, it's stellar. It's also stupidly gigantic. I Yeah, I stream this game for three days in a row And I do not have a fourth party member or have touched the job system even once whoa Yeah, I mean they didn't they say it was like a hundred hours just for the main fucking story or something I was talking to I was talking to Jean about it and he was telling me the Roon B
Starting point is 01:52:47 She's been streaming it She's been streaming Just the Animal Crossing Island. I forget what is called to don't pull Island or something like that. Yeah For like a full fucking week Because it's like a full game Just jammed in there. Whoa That's horrifying That's too fucking much man because it's like a full game just jammed in there. Whoa. That's horrifying. That's too fucking much, man.
Starting point is 01:53:09 And that's not even, and I think the funniest part is that like, you know, we've been talking about all the power world discourse, but then I got to the fucking Sujimon sensei, and he's telling me how I have to be the very best and travel to Hawaii underneath the sun and moon so I can catch all the best Sujimon around Underneath the Sun and Moon
Starting point is 01:53:26 Is that also like Sujimon also like its own game like worth of content? Oh, yeah, because you'll eventually unlock the Sujimon job class and the Sujimon job class is unique in that it uses captured Sujimon as playable fighters And and and there's a sound in your pause menu for the Sujiman League. Oh my god And have you and use the pound mate collection stuff is still oh, yeah I'm going on as well like I've because I saw a bunch of the cameos like Alex Mokala and stuff in there Yeah, and I guess just like are you running around open to Hawaii at this point?
Starting point is 01:54:07 Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. How's that? It's incredibly strange because Gene was in the, Gene was in my chat for most of these, that'd be Gene Park of Washington Post. And the entirety of Infinite Wealth Hawaii section takes place in the neighborhood that he used to live. And you can like go see his apartment.
Starting point is 01:54:28 And like I went to like a clothes shop and he's like, my mom used to work there. Oh, wow. So it's like real. Oh, yeah. No, it's it's it's a real neighborhood that has just been transplanted onto the onto the game world. Yeah. No, dude. That's so fucking cool, dude. I was just like, oh, yeah, that's so fucking cool dude. I just like oh yeah that's where you can go to get drugs like that. Oh we had a whole we had a whole fucking there was a extremely strange series of interactions in which I showed up and you know I got to the airport in game and some guy in my
Starting point is 01:54:58 chat was like hey man my apartment's on the other side turn around and like some who I answer chatting at which point Gene points out, hey, you know what, I looked up my old buddy Mike from the back in the day, and apparently he got arrested for running a criminal conspiracy. Yeah, that's fucking sick. And then I looked down and people are going, wait, you knew Mike?
Starting point is 01:55:21 What? Also, they knew Mike. Everybody knows Mike, apparently. Okay, that's fucking awesome. Shout out to Mike. Incredible. Or, I mean, from prison, I guess, you know. But also, he's watching.
Starting point is 01:55:36 Also, maybe dox yourself in game where you're like, oh yeah, that's where I am right now. That was ages ago. That was decades ago. Oh, when he moved. Oh, where he where I am right now. That was ages ago, that was decades ago. Oh, when he moved, oh, where he used to live, okay. This is why he's in DC now. No, I thought the person in your chat was saying I live. Oh, whatever. Okay, well, I don't know.
Starting point is 01:55:54 If you're like, oh yeah, that's where I live, I'm right there, it's like, oh, okay, well, there you are. People don't live in the public eye like we do, man. It's different. It's different for some regular guy. Well, I'm just extra always paranoid in thinking about that. So fair enough. But I mean, it is kind of funny to be like, yeah, well, that
Starting point is 01:56:14 comes to me. Say what's up? I'm right here. But yeah, no, the games, the games incredible. It's it runs well. It plays well. It sounds great. It's already like drowning in extra content. It runs well, it plays well, it sounds great. It's already like drowning in extra content. It's the funniest of them all. Like it's fully into the farthest reaches
Starting point is 01:56:37 of the clownish dimension. Sorry, I have to you. Oh no, I was just gonna ask if, cause I know like George Takei was in the dub of For Seven. Um, were there any other like kind of guests of, what's that called? Oh, you mean like Daniel Day Kim and Danny Trejo? Oh, shit.
Starting point is 01:56:56 Okay. Yeah, wait, I heard about Danny Trejo. That's true. Yeah. So you want to hear the absolute strangest thing about Daniel Day Kim in the game? The character he plays does not look like Daniel Day Kim. And there is a different guy who he does not voice who uses his body and face. So Daniel Day Kim's voice and likeness are in the game, but they're separated between two characters
Starting point is 01:57:30 Why I don't know I really don't and everyone else is matching their as an actor like okay What it's so good. Did they like-stranding Conan O'Brien vibes. Did they, like, change their minds? Yeah, it's gotta be some kind of... Because the character he plays, the character that he voice acts, is very important. Okay. But I think that guy looks like his Japanese actor.
Starting point is 01:58:05 So you can't even, like, properly run the full Dr. Han bit. Oh, no, we ran the full Dr. Han bit over the voice or over the model. It does. I don't care. It doesn't. Uh, yeah, no, games incredible games. Super amazing. Cool.
Starting point is 01:58:22 Uh, not much else to say about that without getting into. Minor spoilers. Gotcha. Well, I appreciate you know what? You know what? I will say one thing. Kiryu does reveal very early that he has cancer, which has been part of the promotional material. Headphones off. His story about getting cancer is the most absurd thing
Starting point is 01:58:50 the series has ever had. OK. That sounds appropriate. Like for something that big. It is. To be wild. It is like there was a really obvious and simple explanation and they decided to go for cartoon shit. Great. Great
Starting point is 01:59:10 Wouldn't have it any other way Okay, I think that's it for me I'm not I'll probably remember something at a later time that I should go oh this but but for now Yeah, that's it if you want to check out more Like a Dragon, If in a Wealth, go down to twitch.tv slash Pat stairs at. Cool, yeah, so meanwhile over on Woolly versus on YouTube and on Twitch.
Starting point is 01:59:36 This week, we're gonna be coming back to, here let me just pull it up real quick, yeah. So we're gonna be starting the Tekken 8 story mode Shocked. Dive it in to see what's going on with that. I can't wait to see how Jin the hero saves the world He's gonna do it on Big hero then on Wednesday Sacred and terrible air the disco Elysium book. We're gonna continue going through that I don't know if I'll finish it in that session, but I'll give it my shot.
Starting point is 02:00:08 I know that we're close to the end. So come through for that. On on Thursday, I'm going to be starting a new short LP. It should be doable in a couple of sessions, but you know what? I think it's a decent time as any to take a crack at this. This Half Life 2. I'm I'm going to go play Half Life 2. The original Half Life 2 has like the strangest
Starting point is 02:00:43 feel all these years later. It's so yeah, it feels. It's got the event. I feel like I feel like I'm stepping on eggshells if I say. OK, no, that's the thing going on. We're like, I think it kind of aged poorly. This tropes. Yeah. And you're like, oh, because it invented it.
Starting point is 02:01:02 It made the trope. That's the thing. It feels it feels like an age, but also It's the one that made it okay like you know It is fun about how Val doesn't make game in this anymore. Yeah, I I only you know I only played the first one a while ago on the channel So I have no expectations for what it's worth like I I'm not set up to shake a stick at anything. But yeah, so at a glance it seems as if, it says like, main story 13 and then completionist
Starting point is 02:01:39 about 20 hours. So I know that I have my wooly filter on that, but I'm hoping maybe five sessions or so could get that down. So yeah, we'll be doing that. And I kind of wanted to have a slot to do some shorter things before throwing a big long, like, well, Yakuza's pretty long,
Starting point is 02:01:59 so before throwing a big long RPG style game backup in there. So yeah, we're gonna do some Half-Life 2. I'm not gonna do the mods or any of the extra versions or anything. I'm just gonna play the original that apparently has been updated when Steam Deck came out. So yeah, I'll just run it that way. Does that include the episodes?
Starting point is 02:02:25 Just the original game. I think you need to still buy the episodes separately and like run them separately. And they who doesn't have those by default off of like some seam sale from 30 minutes ago. I mean, they're they're they're probably in a humble bundle from years ago that I bought never opened. No, no, no, they usually valve sells like all those games for like
Starting point is 02:02:47 a pack or whatever. Five bucks. It's crazy. Yeah, like there was a moment a couple of years ago, they were like, Portal One is free. And I'm like, who the fuck doesn't own Portal One for free? Oh, yeah. Orange box.
Starting point is 02:02:57 Yeah. I own Orange Box. Oh, Orange Box. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Does so the episodes, they come after you play the main game, right? Yeah. Yeah. Okay. You just like after you finish, you go so the episodes, they come after you play the main game, right? Yeah. Yeah. Okay.
Starting point is 02:03:06 You just like after you finish, you go into episode one, episode two. Okay. Uh, I guess depending on how long they are, you know, if, if they're due. They're, uh, they're shorter, but combined, they kind of make another half life too. Oh, okay. That's why. Cause when people were going like lol short, I was like, 20 doesn't seem that bad, but you, if you're thinking plus the episodes, yeah, maybe I'll wait for the episodes then. Yeah, that'll make sense. Cool. So I'm going to do that.
Starting point is 02:03:31 Gonna I'm going to go for the the mouse and keyboard setup. But again, I'm going to give it a little shot. It's not ultra kill, so it might be a little bit, you know, it might be a bit more manageable. And I like how after our discussion about ultra kill a few weeks ago, the very next day, a bunch of changes showed up in ultra kill about key binds. Awesome. And I mean, and hitchhikers,
Starting point is 02:03:54 I've been talking about, well, about to me about like, yeah, how to figure out some of the ultra kill stuff with the controls. But for I'm sure I'm sure people have a million questions about how this is going to go and what it's going to be and what my experience is going to be. And all I'll tell you is I'm just playing the original version of the game. I'm going to play it with a mouse and a keyboard unless that
Starting point is 02:04:12 provides to be a humongous issue in which case I'll switch to a controller. I believe it does have native control. Oh, man, no, Yossified Alex mod. What the hell are you doing? Apparently is what I've heard, you know, again, with the with the steam deck update. And yeah, and anything as far as episodes or Alex or any of the other stuff goes. Alex is a whole endeavor. Yeah, but one step at a time.
Starting point is 02:04:36 One step at a time. We're just going to play Half Life 2. That's all I'm going to talk about for now. And then we'll figure out everything afterwards. This is also meant to be a bit of an interim to, you know, again, play a couple of shorter things instead of going like, Final Fantasy, Final Fantasy, fucking brah, in a million episode game, you know?
Starting point is 02:04:52 So, yeah, jumping into that. And then on Friday, we're going to have a sponsored stream for Persona 3 Reload. So tune in for that as well. Going to check out the first bit of that game and have a good time with default main character, Minato Arisato. Oh, how you doing that?
Starting point is 02:05:15 That's what we're doing. I'm gonna be punching in Makoto Yuki. I don't give a shit. I'm just gonna go with it. I'm gonna be punching in Roger. Oh, yeah? Roger nothing. Roger nothing. That's great. Sick. Just Roger. Sick. Perfect. Love it. All right. Let's take a quick break and we'll be our B. All right.
Starting point is 02:05:34 There we are. Billy, your plugs. Oh yeah. Wait, before we before we get back, Pat, did you wash your hands? Yes, I did. Let me smell them. Let me smell your hands. Let me put them up. Put them up. You pass. Yeah. You do this a lot. Sniffing sniffing men's hands. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. You've's hands oh yeah you've somehow made let me smell
Starting point is 02:06:09 your fingers more nefarious new how is it nefarious I want to know if you want hands after you hey Billy tell boo I said what's up what I don't get that. What are you talking about? That's nipping. I don't know. You talk. It's fine. It's fine.
Starting point is 02:06:31 Don't bring my husband up like that. That's so fucking weird. It's like non-professional. We're on stream as well. Oh my god. That's so fucking strange. Oh my god. Just like right in front of every, I'm sorry.
Starting point is 02:06:39 I didn't, I didn't. In front of like how many 2000 people? Let's go back to the racist sister. That's actually. You know, let me let me drop some. No, I don't think I want to drop some more. I don't think I can say more shit that she said. Anyways, my plugs.
Starting point is 02:06:55 I have the I have like four podcasts. They're all they're all under the PST umbrella. The main channel is please stop talking. Please stop talking is our main comedy show. Press Start Turbo is our video game show, which is coming out on Wednesday. And Woolly actually is going to be on that episode where we talk about his decade long decade.
Starting point is 02:07:20 Was it a decade? It was about it was in QA. It was it was a minute. It was a in QA. It was a minute. It was a while. Yes. It was not a full decade. It was a decade? No, I've been on YouTube for over a decade. QA was less than a decade. Okay. Either way, you come on
Starting point is 02:07:36 and we have a talk about what actually is QA. It's bullshit. And what actually... Unemployed. Currently getting the... actually is QA and Like what actually Currently getting all that stuff are we getting the tutorial for how to pick cans out of the fucking trash apparently and I have another show called pondering spooky taste where we look at horror movies and one last show called
Starting point is 02:07:59 Parallel storytelling which is our D&D show that I it's it's our D&D show that I edit like an audio book with like sound effects and I wrote the soundtrack for it. And I also have some of my friends like Cicada Sirens, the signalist composer who wrote a few songs for that. It's pretty decent, I think. Have you noticed the theme of PST for all of the titles? I already said that, but it's an East Coast podcast network. Appropriating. What can you do? There you go.
Starting point is 02:08:34 So before we go any further, I did remember something that happened. I remembered that I have. A baby story to tell because I have a baby story to tell because I have a small human that lives in my house that looks like me. So first of all, hey man, you know when they grab a rattle or like a toy and you're like they're grabbing it and they're like, yeah, I'm playing with toys now.
Starting point is 02:08:57 You're like amazing. What people don't tell you is that immediately following that is they gain the upper body strength to swing the rattle hard enough to hurt you. Oh. Oh, we're already there. Fucking strength.
Starting point is 02:09:12 That little bastard. Hitboxes. Fucking smack me in the face with his rattle hard enough that I was like, oh, disjointed hitboxes now exist. Let's go. I love him, He's so cute But he's he's because he'll grab it and his arms are like they're not very They're not very
Starting point is 02:09:38 Coordinated so they're just kind of going all over the place and sometimes I'm in the way So a one popped up instead of a zero Yeah, okay, but more importantly so our tiny little adorable baby, who is the best baby in the world and the smartest, he's going to be a doctor and astronaut or some shit. He loved taking baths in the sink, but he's not a fan of taking baths in the bathtub. In fact, he is a big not fan, but he's too big for the sink. Right.
Starting point is 02:10:03 When they're tiny, tiny, tiny too big for the sink, right? When they're a tiny, little, tiny, little baby, fit in the sink, no problem. Now, eh, he's like a real baby. You gotta put him in the bathtub, right? Hates it. Will fight you. Which is, the only time my tiny child is not the chillest, cutest guy in the world
Starting point is 02:10:20 is when it's bath time. So, we told Ardula about this, and so Ardula says, hey, you know what I got? I got a tiny little baby bathtub bucket. It's a little bucket specifically made for a little baby bath time. It's basically just like the size of the baby, and you just put them in and you fill it with water,
Starting point is 02:10:39 and then you throw the soap in there, and you kinda smoosh them around. It's kinda like a little baby washing machine. Okay. Right? Oh. And that, and he, throw the soap in there and you kind of smush him around. It's kind of like a little baby washing machine. OK, right? Oh, and that and he is not a big fan, but like he likes it better than the bathtub, right? It's like a closer fit. Yeah, it's very it's, you know, basically he sits in it.
Starting point is 02:10:57 Yeah, OK. And then it's like it's just slightly wider than him, right? And so yesterday, he needed bath time because it's bath time and He had a bunch of neurons connected his fucking head for the first time ever and He decided that he could physically stop us From giving him bath time Might be too smart He figured out that if he stretches his legs all the way out and doesn't bend his knees
Starting point is 02:11:30 and grabs the edges of it with his hands, that I can't actually get him in there and to start bath time. Okay. to start bath time. OK. And me and Paige were like, well, poke his knees or like maybe if we push him and like, honey, if I if I if I I can get this baby in here, but I cannot get this baby in here in one piece. This baby is not he's not going to do it. And he beat us from object permanence to eminent domain. He beat us. So he got like a like a sponge down
Starting point is 02:12:12 Instead and we're going right back to the bathtub now Not and what about the what about the? What about the baby bath bucket? Yeah, well, we'll just give it back. Okay. It was lent to us by our doula. I guess. Yeah, I guess I feel like I'm smart Well, I'm too smart and that's why he's gonna be The president or a super lawyer or astronaut all of the above why why why dream short, right? Fuck off. There's there's that dude that literally is all three's that was like fucking. Oh, that wasn't on prayer Okay, there's literally a dude that was like a Navy SEAL astronaut and doctor and it was just like well Yeah, sure man
Starting point is 02:12:54 That dude is wild um No, I I feel as if multiple Friends I have that are trying stuff out baby wise like it seems like yeah There's a bunch of tools that may or may not work and if it doesn't work every baby is different Yeah, so you might just have a like a room of like shit that didn't click you know and If they were gifts or things like that it's like so like you know some babies tried it out give me that food Right give me food. I want food now right mm-hmm other babies I don't give a shit about food mama only only mom Right, I was talking to my mom on the phone and found out that my dad and sister
Starting point is 02:13:33 Started fully walking at nine months old And I'm like I don't want that That's that's too far too fast. I don't that I'm not ready for that slow it down Nah you stay down there a little longer practice more crawling Is what we're gonna do page looks away, and you just kind of like The kneecap a bit just get him down there I never crawled once. Never.
Starting point is 02:14:11 I learned to stand first. What? From immobility straight to standing. Totally immobile to standing. And then at one month and, sorry, at one year in a month or one year or two months or something. I went to walking refused to crawl refused She explained to me that I drove her fucking crazy because all I could do was stand up I couldn't sit back down
Starting point is 02:14:38 so she put me down on my crib and I Fucking dragged myself to a standing position in the middle of the night and then freak out cuz I didn't know how to get back down So she'd have to come in and just pick me up and just literally lay me down. Oh, at least you don't have that problem anymore. I Can walk as far as we know Okay, so maybe not a sequence break. Oh Weird so it's a new adventure every day. Alright. Babies are cool, man. They're weird.
Starting point is 02:15:13 No, I like the idea of slowly determining his destiny and overpowering the situation, learning that, no, I don't want this, actually. No, I'm not going to do it. It's not going to do it. No, it's a powerful step. So, um, so, uh, here's a fun one that I didn't know, but apparently everybody knows but me. Did you know that babies hate it when you sit down?
Starting point is 02:15:42 When you sit down, they hate it next to that. We're like, or at all when you're holding. When you sit down? They hate it. Next to them? Or at all when you're holding them? In their proximity. When you're holding them. When they're holding them. Babies calm down if you're standing, but they freak out if you're sitting. Okay, so is it because the whole rocking and standing
Starting point is 02:16:02 and stepping motion emulates the feeling of being in the stomach. And- No, it's just standing. Like literally, I ran a series of tests, okay? Because what I would do is I'd get back in the recliner and I would hold the baby all the way over my head so that he'd be the same height as where he'd be if I was standing right?
Starting point is 02:16:25 No, still mad. No, I have to be on my fucking feet or Paige has to be on her feet. It's the only way. So when baby's upset, no sitting down. No I'm not allowed. Fuck that. I'm sitting down. So you're like, oh I'm so fucking tired.
Starting point is 02:16:42 Oh my god. Oh, I'm just gonna sit for a second. Oh, you don't care for that. Oh, you're like oh I'm so fucking tired oh my god oh I'm just gonna sit for a second oh you don't care for that oh you're not chill with that okay back to my feet it is I'm just holding a baby I'm holding a baby and I sit down and it starts getting upset because I'm sitting down I'm pressing the soft spot dude I ain't doing that oh don't don't do that spot it's the grossest thing in the world you know know it pulses, right? What are you even fucking touching that? Well, you know that it's the top of your baby's head You kiss your baby and touched your baby's head at like a hundred times a day. I
Starting point is 02:17:16 Guess that's fair. It's your little man. It's the your tiny little guy of you before all that shit happened That fucked you up and got you on this podcast I just call it the reset button You came out hot with the bathrooms talk that's that's that's Billy do you remember that first established everything before all that shit happened? Imagine that was right in front of you. And it was the cutest thing in the world. OK. No,
Starting point is 02:17:56 if I saw my if I saw my own self as a baby, I'd fucking stop that before it got any worse. Yeah, I used to talk like that. I can't have babies anyways it's good oh are you dick don't gay no I'm gay dude gays can have babies oh it's not the same it can't be a little different. Oh I mean, there's some you know, there's a maybe a step or two extra Too many steps too many steps All right, I'm just gonna I'm just gonna spoil the my sister's kid. That's it. I'm gonna make it like the end. Oh God, I'm gonna make it. I'm gonna make that kid anti-racist just like fucking
Starting point is 02:18:53 What's the opposite of racism? Acceptance chill tolerance. I don't fucking know that's the one sure I'm gonna make that baby The term tolerance either oh actually right all right I had a moment you're totally right anti-racism things a little overrated if you ask me in a fucking perfect future in which everyone gets along you'd lose all your powers. I will never be a memory. I'll find a way somehow. No one ever really dies. This fucking mother fucking member of racism, Strega going,
Starting point is 02:19:40 we have to keep the midnight hour going so that I keep my There will always be there will always be a me um no I I I Appreciate the the the rolling bit in progress um every single day Let's get into the news. But but but but but but you're all fired. Yeah. All of it. Every one of y'all.
Starting point is 02:20:16 You're fired and you're fired and you're fired. So originally the it was Rocksteady was No, no, no wait not that one. Oh, we're jumping the gun. No, no, no, no, no, no I don't they got at least six more months before that excuse me that shut down originally it was Microsoft laid off nearly 2,000 people from its gaming. Yeah about 8% or so.
Starting point is 02:20:46 And yeah, the the, you know, shout outs to the the fucking catch and slaughter that is these acquisitions into just cleansing out. Again, another week, another layoff story. There's a funny episode from the start of the year. There's a funny like image going episode from the start of the year. There's a funny tweet slash image going around of Microsoft going, hey, we just bought a new company. Oh, but now we have a bunch, we have too many employees. Let's fire a bunch of them.
Starting point is 02:21:16 Hey, we don't have enough staff to make our big AAA video games. Let's buy more staff to make AAA video games. Oh, wait, we have too much staff Fire them like they literally just buy up companies to fire people and then complain They don't have enough people look at Halo. Halo is on a proprietary weirdo engine and it's running on like contractors That they just keep rotating out. I mean it's Like yeah, like no, I have Microsoft active Blizzard King whatever the fuck you want to call it like all of that while
Starting point is 02:21:53 Again, Coddick gets the fuck out there with the with the $400 million with the Golden Jetpack, you know But we've identified redundancies. So yeah but butchers knife, select butchers knife, select your pal that you show company. And that's it. It's like cutting off your nose to pay your ass. And so that's basically where that started. And then they went into some further details of which parts were affected, particularly in Blizzard.
Starting point is 02:22:26 And then yeah, that just kinda- Cancel that game, cancel that survival game. And that just rolled right on through to this morning, Eidos Montreal, Embracer Group, they canceled a Deus Ex game that was in development for two years and laid off 97 staff. And yeah, that one is closer to literally close to home like not only is that in the city here That's the company I used to work at you know Yeah, throw it away
Starting point is 02:22:55 Chucked and tossed so Yeah, as I know was kind of mentioning that like I don't know what what's where Deus Ex is at but like Human revolution was like the software and then Human Revolution was like the soft reboot. And then Mankind Divided was like a soft reboot again. And like it was, yeah, like what do you even do with this franchise? Like does it just get like, does it wind up being acquired by anyone
Starting point is 02:23:18 who's picking up the remains of everything Embracer Group is burning down at the moment? Well, I mean, they still own Deus Ex, it's just they cancel the game. Yeah, no, it's more until they're fired. So, you know, from being so when Eidos was the Square Enix property and such, like it's one of these bits where they,
Starting point is 02:23:43 I'm sure they'd love to be independent and you know, like and have the ability to do that. But that clearly was not a possibility. And when they just kind of got rolled up with everything else, Embracer Group got and then that apparently the middle man deal fell through that they were supposed to rely on all this funding from an outside source that was going to take on and pay for all these acquisitions. And then that fell through. So now everything that they did end up buying is just getting gutted to fucking death. Hey, are you, is this making us money right now? Well, no, but game development. Cancel it. You're fired. You know, more money is how almost every single one of these is going.
Starting point is 02:24:21 Our shit fucked up here behind the scenes, so that just rolls through and congratulations. You just got acquired by incompetence. That's now fucking. It's really weird seeing the PR spin that they did on the acquisitions and everything because I swear to God, when I was on Twitter and I was looking at like people's reactions to when Embracer Or not not Embracer. I'm talking specifically about the Microsoft stuff like people were talking about like oh, this is awesome They own Activision now. We're gonna get Call of Duty on the game. Oh, the big video And it's like home and it's like all together never it never ends. Oh, it's because they're fucking stupid
Starting point is 02:25:03 It's like it but but they are really like the PR people are really good at spinning these acquisitions as being like the best thing for game. Well, they are at it because like they are so much spin you can put like sure you have a bunch of fucking idiots on social media. It'll fall for because they're fucking morons and they just they don't have to try to be hard. Yeah, they don't have to try very hard when people are just idiots on social media will fall for it because they're fucking morons and they just
Starting point is 02:25:29 yeah, they don't have to try very hard when people are just waiting to see Master Chief and go, yeah, there he is. I guess that's fair. But like, I think for most people, like for the common like common gamer, like as we do look at the gaming news a lot and all that stuff. And we do see like the following in a different way. When when you're when you don't really follow the industry and you just see, oh, Xbox bought Activision and Xbox on Game Pass. Activision owned Call of Duty. Call of Duty on the Game Pass. Who? Wow. But it's never called. He didn't go on the game.
Starting point is 02:26:02 Yeah, which is the funniest part, because that was supposed to be the big benefit. Yep. And, you know, and, and, and I mean, that's the thing is, too, is like, because, like, there are lots of people that are can follow like game releases and such, but not necessarily catch on to or give a fuck about like things like and acquisitions, firing, sexual assault cases, fucking unions, all these things that happen in the background. Like, you know, it that's all the more reason to kind of cover it and like, you know, get into that shit because it's like it affects
Starting point is 02:26:36 what is going to happen when that trailer drops or doesn't drop in on all that shit. You know, if you're the stupidest thing about all this is that we've gone through like a record number of acquisitions and the result of every single one of them, they're like, oh, this will allow us to synergize our fucking, right? And then they mold the company together and then they just cancel most of everything
Starting point is 02:27:02 and then they just keep making the same shit they did before. And even from like a, like, hey, you're evil and you want all the money in the world, like how does that even make you any more money? How does, how does just not putting things out for people to buy somehow make you more money? Yeah, I mean, this is, it's a tale as old
Starting point is 02:27:23 as the industry itself. Like we, there was a a it's just the only differences now in this decade. It's no longer EA acquiring and killing everything off, you know, the names of change slightly, but it's the exact same practice as a decade ago. It's not even done with Microsoft or the Embracer Group news, THQ Nordic also had, so Black Forest Games, the folks behind Destroy All Humans had to cut 50% of its employees, so they fired half the company.
Starting point is 02:27:56 What was that? It's another Embracer Group subsidiary. Okay, I haven't seen that one yet. I'm guessing, I mean, because obviously the big one is right now. Yeah, it's yeah I mean embrace the Embracer news is just gonna keep rolling cuz they oh it's never gonna I don't understand because they're they're like chopping like a company completely in half and Like the project that company is working on is never gonna see the light of day So why not just fucking gut the whole fucking thing right away?
Starting point is 02:28:25 I don't get it. Why keep on half the company so that you can kill it later? Must be some tax bullshit. The location of a given company. Go ahead. Oh, sorry. I think the people that are still there are people that might be in. I think the people that are still there are people that might be in... Cause I saw something about like a lot of workers that in the games industry that were part of the companies
Starting point is 02:28:54 that had mass layoffs and that were in unions, they did not get shafted. Well, that's very few, right? With the Blizzard story video games. It's few, but the when when when uh Yes, when a union I think when a union member is going to when there's gonna be firings of Union members they know in advance in an like they have to be told in advance before getting fired and I think From what I remember reading I don't think anybody who was part of an union actually got an email
Starting point is 02:29:27 So I think the people who were in unions might have been protected because they don't want to deal with that stuff I'm not a hundred percent sure like this is just from like no, I what I've read so I seen around yeah similarly That's what I heard as well and that yeah, there might have been a case or so that I thought that seemed to be an exception, but it seems like the person was not a member they had applied but didn't actually Oh, they didn't get the they didn't get a approval or something said all of this has like an underlying cause Which is like the US is no longer allowing like nearly debt-free loans for businesses like the pandemic free money from the banks is over. And it's wider than games.
Starting point is 02:30:13 It's like the entire tech industry. We're coasting on free loans of like, well, we don't need to know how to make any money. We'll make the company and make the company successful. And then we'll figure out how to make money because we get infinite financing from the bank. And now that free financing is done and they still haven't figured out how to make money. So the only thing they can do today is just fire as many people as it takes to make the number go to go up.
Starting point is 02:30:45 Now the thing is, and what I was about to say before too, is that though the bit you were talking about with the tax breaks or whatever the case is, like there's always specific things to certain countries. And yeah, Embracer Group being in Sweden, there's always the possibility that there's some sort of Swedish tax law or something like that and affects this as well, right?
Starting point is 02:31:01 It's not just the US side of the equation. Well, that applies to Microsoft and active Blizzard King, certainly. But there's always one of those things too behind it. We're like, yeah, there's a legal change or a legal thing occurring behind the scenes that then kick starts the entire snowball effect. So cool, infinite growth, growth no problems good shit
Starting point is 02:31:25 no this is healthy this is sustainable guys three sustainable healthy yeah if you look at this graph you'll see the disco records have doubled in sales every year up until 1976 if then a Line go So we've seen a lot of short-sighted like corporate business people things But I I think it's like every time it came up like I can't believe the game industry Specifically looked at a period of time in which you were legally barred from leaving your house a period of time in which you were legally barred from leaving your house because the plague was outside and went, wow, we're selling a lot of video games and went, that's going to just continue forever. Like just business protection and it's so short-sighted like
Starting point is 02:32:20 it's always super short-sighted. Yeah, so hey, that's every episode of the year so far. And let's see how this goes. Let's see if this continues all the way through. I get the feeling it ain't stopping anytime soon. That's three for one this week in particular. That's three for one this week in particular. Okay, next bit, not even so much to say or get into, just Vince McMahon fucking details coming out
Starting point is 02:33:03 about the lawsuit that was raised against him that have been, the details have come out, fucking insane psycho monster rapist who literally physically defecated on his rape victims. Like- But more importantly is the sex trafficking, which includes offering those victims up to people as compensation in the company.
Starting point is 02:33:23 You wanna talk about bad corporate decisions as you just did a second ago. Yeah, not much to it. Just dude can't rot in jail forever fast enough. In fact, he's not going to see jail. Absolutely. I mean, the level of this shit come up, dude. You think so?
Starting point is 02:33:40 This is the kind of guy who would just spontaneously combust from 10 heart attacks on the way to the jail. You think the immunity of like cash field can stop like this level of fucking... Oh, I mean, it's a civil lawsuit, it's not criminal. Similar civil lawsuits don't go to jail. They go to the poor house. It's a civil case.
Starting point is 02:34:05 Shit. Okay. Uh, that detail I missed. I thought it would. Okay. Well, um, here's now what might happen is he might accidentally kill himself. So it, like, it would that could happen. The question of what it would take for him to leave the company prior to this was like because after everything beforehand
Starting point is 02:34:31 where he's like, no, I'm still going to stay on board and all that. And then this shit comes out where it's just like, oh yeah, you shat on your rape victims that you then sex traffic. Okay, no, now he's out like two hours later. Hey, Paul, Hey, I'd like to focus on the positive things, says, says, says, says, says, says, says, says, says, says, Hey Paul, how's that Netflix deal? Now, you know the thing where like, I don't think Netflix is stoked. You know the thing where like, hey,
Starting point is 02:34:58 let's, let's pay Memoriam to Chris Benoit when that happened and then it's like, actually wait, let's scrub him from existence from their archives Yeah, good job scrubbing vents Like this is what do you what do you what is do you then? You know is the emperor the the main antagonist of the entire attitude era is now to be Like it's fucking Garfield minus Garfield over here scrubbed out of the existence of the archives What do you even do at this point? Do you yeah?
Starting point is 02:35:29 Is there just a shadow Vince that like is getting stuttered? I don't know what the move is but like the I did him being the guy the WWE himself and now being the worst of anything that it's yeah, I Don't even know why how you proceed with that. But yeah, Netflix deal on the horizon. Business is looking good. Fuck, man. I have to. I have to agree.
Starting point is 02:35:53 There's some folks that I saw on social media talking about this, how a lot of people in wrestling media are like complete coward pieces of shit because they had a, they had an event, they had like a presser like a couple days ago, like right after the lawsuit came out where Paul, that is Triple H, was sitting down to answer questions.
Starting point is 02:36:17 And the first question was, hey, tell us what's the Netflix deal about? And it's like, really? Huh. Like, really? You fucking I you're going to fucking you're going to lowball him. I didn't. I didn't. I didn't see that that had happened. What I did see was there was what he was asked about it.
Starting point is 02:36:37 He just said, I want to focus on the positive. Yeah. But the people who are doing like those questions by asking him bullshit just softballed in the middle of the worst fucking possible story that is like yeah make him sit there for an hour just going no comment and sweat because I mean he was also running the company and the wonderful thing about the civil lawsuit is that everybody in any position of management or power or authority is implicated because everybody knew. Yeah, so that the level in which it's like not only did exactly all of this happen with the
Starting point is 02:37:17 victim but then there were multiple people on his staff involved that yeah was she was like on his staff involved that, yeah, was she was like given out to and shit is like, okay. Yeah, but that's the thing is, what is the damage of a civil case? There's the reputation damage and then there's the monetary, but like. Well, I haven't read the thing and I'm not a lawyer. So pardon if I get all this wrong.
Starting point is 02:37:43 Smarter lawyer people could probably answer this. But my assumption is that the the personal the acts that Vince perpetrated are one thing. But the acts that he perpetrated as the head of the company, i.e. sex trafficking to talent or to management means that the company is responsible. Okay. Okay. And if the company is found to be responsible for this kind of shit, then the sky is the limit. So, I kind of, you would imagine that if like, this is not like a necessarily like an OJ situation where it's like, oh, you are fiscally responsible for what happened. But like if this goes down and then it,
Starting point is 02:38:28 obviously the amount of news coming out about it and such would likely lead to subsequent lawsuits against each of the named perpetrators in the case. There must be further consequences than just monetary, I would assume. But yeah, I guess we'll see as it's coming out. But yeah, we kind of heard about some of the wild VINC shit and talked about it last time, but like, no, the details are fucking
Starting point is 02:38:54 batshit insane. I really thought covering up murders was as far as it went. Oh, um, um, what's his name? Jimmy Superfly Superfly Superfly Snooker. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And Vince telling the local authorities to not worry about it. No, I don't think anyone had scat on their bingo card. So there you go.
Starting point is 02:39:18 Anyway, uh, that's that's that's happening over in in in the wrestling So yeah, I Said it a bit earlier, but I remember last week where I was like, oh cool There's gonna be wrestling on Netflix now me and the boy can watch right you know what I think I'm gonna pass Hmm might reconsider. Yeah, I think I'm gonna pass Well, you know the ink isn't hasn't dried yet on those contracts or are you serious I Think snow. Oh, I thought it was done. Oh, that's that's real funny. I think I think so or but might be wrong. I thought so What is happening over with Rocksteady? So oh well, that's a layoff story in advance
Starting point is 02:40:18 preemptively so suicide squad servers had to get pulled offline an hour into the early access release Because people who booted the game up it then completed the game as soon as they logged in. Hey, thank you for completing Suicide Squad Kill the Justice League. It completed the game? Yeah. You load it in and it would be like, it would show you like the credits and the, the, the, you'd go like post game. Oh, okay. That's fucking in. Cool.
Starting point is 02:40:39 That again, that's, that's a wild fucking. That's pretty wild. I would assume a bug would be entered, you know, for a pretty severe bug. That is the game beats itself on. Wouldn't they literally just do it like cleanse of the of the alpha or beta or whatever? Or was that they did not? Oh, no, because this is the early early access to the full game, isn't it? So and this is also a game that switched hands
Starting point is 02:41:06 right multiple times. The timeline I got was an unknown developer from 2010 to 2013, and then it switched over to WB Montreal till 2016, and then it switched over to Rocksteady from 2017 till now. There's also two more Suicide Squad stories, which are really funny. One is IGN coming out and going, yeah, they're not sending out review copies. I saw that. A lot of places did not get review copies.
Starting point is 02:41:36 No one is getting a review copy. And so you combine that with today, the only people who get to play it are the early exes, bought the fancy addition. Oh, and it's broken. That's fun. We'd like to call them playtesters. But the other part that's really funny is they added Dinovo DRM to the game. Dinovo is awesome.
Starting point is 02:41:55 A couple of times ago. Hell yeah. Sweet. So that the performance is probably going to get hit a little bit. Always good. So I'm not like a big Dinovo hater. Like I understand its purpose and I don't usually run into issues with it. But of note here is that this is already an online only game.
Starting point is 02:42:16 Yeah. So. What is the new thing supposed to have like does it have like anti cheat for online games, I don't know. I thought I thought the new was just anti-paratistic. Copy protection, the new D.R.M. So they just put it in. And there's literally no fucking no benefit at all to them.
Starting point is 02:42:37 So I mean, unless the game like like you can play it offline like fully. Will there be an offline mode? No. Someone says there is, but they're adding it. A couple of people say they are adding it later. Adding it later. Cool. That's what Danuvo's for.
Starting point is 02:42:57 I just had the spot. Didn't I'm fine version later. Now, I learned about the new vote from you, Pat, when from years ago, when it was when it absolutely affected games for the worst and I remember like you you were the one that told me about how bad it used to be yeah right and then like over time the reason why it doesn't bother me quite so much anymore is because it always required the same amount of juice to run. Okay. But now that we are now using stronger computers than it was.
Starting point is 02:43:33 So it is now a comparatively small. The impact. I still I still would genuinely prefer that it's off. It often introduces like a minor stutter that's very annoying. But I understand it's it's reality. I think it's short-sighted. I think it's pointless because it gets cracked anyways. It gets cracked anyways. Yeah, like within the first month. I mean, the thing is they do
Starting point is 02:43:57 it because within the first month is when most people are going to buy the game. And if it delays, I understand. So I understand by two weeks, they're like, wow, we did what we wanted. It's still, yeah, I can see why they do it delays I understand by two weeks they're like well it's still yeah they I can I can see why they do it I had this thought about them didn't arc like it's been a while but didn't our Arkham Knight also have the thing where they didn't send review copies I swear that was a thing I don't remember
Starting point is 02:44:19 that I'm PC version was massively massively massively yeah games hiding review copies I think yeah yeah hiding review copies is the thing that happens. A funny, funny thing. Yeah. I feel like it happened more than once with the... We got people in the chat saying the Danuvo games do not, in fact, get cracked anymore.
Starting point is 02:44:37 I see. Really? That's wild. Oh, man. My pee had it and hasn't been cracked. OK, well, if it actually works for piracy protection, then I can absolutely understand why people put it in their fucking games. Yeah, I mean, so I guess if it's the effect it has is less
Starting point is 02:45:00 malicious than fucking Capcom Colonel level spyware. That's it just fucking crazy. I suppose so. Yeah. No review codes is always a fucking that is a wild gambit. Yakuza seven not crack. Damn. OK. OK. I guess the new works. Um. Yeah. Those are the kind of the main bits. Only other things. So the we talked
Starting point is 02:45:33 about the announcement for Bloodborne Kart with all of its features. Well, well, well, Boster has had an announcement about that. Sony has been in touch. And after such a long time, it turns out they do own Bloodborne, actually, they do care. So it kind of sucks that they they like sent the cease and desist like right as the right away. Yeah, it's so shitty. It's just to show you the level of concern for the for the franchise, right? Or like like the entirety of Bloodborne PSX came and dropped.
Starting point is 02:46:08 It was a thing. And then the follow-up project, most of the way through development, could have already been out. But because Botster wanted to put more features into it, you know, she kind of kept going. And then it got to the point of like, here's the big release. But yeah. So anyway, long story short, going gonna scrub the branding off of what was previously known of Bloodborne Cart. But that requires a short delay, which you know, again, you got to imagine that this was expected to some degree. There's always a contingency plan
Starting point is 02:46:35 working on a thing like this. And again, it might be, it might be for the best is now, now that you can go, they can go for like original branding and all that. Well, they've already shown at least one thing, which is incredible, because me and Lash has been turned into Nicholas and is so it's just Nicholas with a cage. Yeah. Nice. You know, look, them. Swine. From fighting his magic. Yeah. Right. Like now they like they can sell it now. They can actually make money off this project
Starting point is 02:47:08 that people are really interested in. Yeah. Hey, I wanna clarify something because I keep seeing people in our chat discuss it afterwards about the do-no-vo thing because people are arguing back and forth as to whether or not which game was cracked and when. The fact that this is a discussion
Starting point is 02:47:24 that people are arguing about as to whether or not a game from cracked and when. The fact that this is a discussion that people are arguing about as to whether or not a game from like three years ago ever even got cracked is kind of the point of putting DeNuvo in your game. Yeah. There was a golden era, if you didn't want to pay for anything of like, yeah, no, every single day a game came out, bam. It's day one, yeah.
Starting point is 02:47:43 Now, you have to go to your shady website and ask a guy Is it this one did what they get it and like no maybe next year? You know like it's like I Understand they should not be putting a DRM Thing in your in your fucking game that makes it run worse However, it is doing the thing they wanted to do, which is slowing down piracy. The discussion even happening is a step up
Starting point is 02:48:12 from the one where it was like, oh, it's just by default automatically been cracked. What's interesting is that part of the cat-gom thing that we talked about, like the Enigma DRM. There was an update to that, right? Yeah, it's them replacing D'nuvo in some of those games. Hmm. Was there.
Starting point is 02:48:32 What so the there was like one of the games that then got patched and then wasn't working on Steam Deck or something that effect like after the fact instead of the. Yeah. So. I forgot. Anyway, well, just to back to Bloodborne Cart, I was going to say that I feel like there is a monster hunter rise. Yeah, there you go. That's what it was. Right.
Starting point is 02:48:58 I feel as if the the the the hustle that is like making a fan game, getting that out there and then getting asked to make the change after everyone is already invested and cares about your shit is not a bad one. Yeah, it's not the worst because I feel like for for bubborn spooky carts. Yeah. Yeah, I feel like more people are going to be open to supporting the project now that it's it like had like had all this trouble with the cease and desist. Yeah. And because I when I heard about that, I was like, oh, that fucking sucks. I want it to play it. I'm willing to support now. Like because I know
Starting point is 02:49:37 it's not going to be like an easy like just switch over. But but again, like the amount of detail that was so lovingly put into Bloodborne PSX kind of shows like, you know, an attention to detail and a love for this type of thing that you want to see in any other game that gets put out. So you know what? Bloodborne Kart actually does bring us to a story that I'm shocked wasn't actually at the top of the list today. Well, do you have the statement from the Pokemon Company?
Starting point is 02:50:04 About Power World? today. Well, do you have the statement from the Pokemon company? About Powell? So I have it. Wait, you didn't see it? Yeah. So we have a statement from the Pokemon company. Inquiries. This is an official translation on their website. Inquiries regarding other companies' games. Ah, we have received many inquiries regarding another company's game released in January 2024. We have not granted any permission
Starting point is 02:50:35 for the use of Pokémon, intellectual property, or assets in that game. We intend to investigate and take appropriate measures to address any acts that infringe on intellectual property rights related to Pokemon. We will continue to cherish and nurture each and every Pokemon and its world and work to work to bring the world together through Pokemon in the future signed the Pokemon company. So nothing. So absolutely nothing. Yeah, I mean, they so absolutely nothing. Yeah, I mean they literally have nothing
Starting point is 02:51:05 Yeah, I mean it's cuz they don't actually They can't really prove anything because copyright lies that letter reads like please stop Like who the fuck who the fuck is out here emailing the Pokemon company about the Pokemon company about our world's billy fucking do you have you not seen the the mad who the fuck is batting a hundred for fucking Nintendo dude have you lived in the world are you smash event do you exist no I exist I
Starting point is 02:51:44 just don't care for Nintendo. Oh god Billy there I fucking can't do it anymore man. Dude. I don't like pickles, but I don't not believe it. I don't like pickles What are you? Well? Billy Billy you're gonna have you're gonna have to trust us they're out there. Yeah, I'm I mean, I'm and I'm not there's a lot of like my wife doesn't believe in space That doesn't mean that space isn't real You're you're what doesn't believe in space. Yeah page doesn't believe in space page. What the fuck? We do okay, so we're like I feel like we just passed right what okay, okay?
Starting point is 02:52:23 Cuz space what the fuck mean Okay, I thought it was just a thing that was already said before this is new this is like a new fucking lord Oh my god page is afraid of like the vastness of space Yes, so she doesn't believe in it. So when we watch like Star Trek or something. She just says that they're flying through big nighttime I fear it therefore it doesn't exist. That's right just like ghosts she's like that about ghosts too. Doesn't believe in ghosts but she's afraid of them. That's I mean I am I am I don't know what this I am scanning this is practically for a goddamn response. I don't know what this I am scanning this is practically for a goddamn response
Starting point is 02:53:09 She's a All right, this is so beyond me. I don't even know what to say to that Hey, you're gonna just casually drop anyway. All right. Oh, this has been known for that's a shock that never got to you You've known this for years that she just space doesn't believe in. No, it's not real. It's just it's just nighttime. Have you ever had the have you ever had the moon landing conversation? I have a shirt about that, actually. The G I have a shirt that says I'm not really sold.
Starting point is 02:53:40 I'm not 100 percent sold. Oh, and my wife hates it when I wear it out of the house, because she's afraid. One of the neighbors is going to like think I'm a a hundred percent sold. Oh, oh Yeah, and my wife hates it when I wear it out of the house because she's afraid one of the neighbors is gonna like think I'm a fucking idiot, but I think it's funny But what does she think? I don't know. I've never asked her. I'm pretty sure she believes you should have it's just that the moon She doesn't believe in space Probably not she's scared of ghosts Christ okay such a fucking turn dude. What the hell?
Starting point is 02:54:13 Yeah Okay, there's people out there that love Nintendo like their god. Oh, I'm not surprised I mean, I I'm not surprised, but it's just like I don't want to believe it. You know what? I'm scared of Pokemon fans. I don't think they exist. OK, there you go. There you go. There you go. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So like one of the funniest things about this is like the power
Starting point is 02:54:35 world discourse is now the most pointless thing in the world because Nintendo and the Pokemon company are like, yeah, we know. And so all further discussions about whether or not Power World is like plagiaristly evil ripoff, whatever is a decision for a bunch of lawyers and a copyright court in Japan to make not for us to discuss. The thing is, when it comes to copyright law, at least in the U.S. Like you have to be able to you have to like, like you have to prove that you have to prove that the existence of this is infringing on your copyright because it is taking away your own business.
Starting point is 02:55:20 And I'm going to be honest, I don't think anybody who's playing Power World is like not is was going to buy Pokemon in the first place. Oh, I think there's a huge overlap of people who will always buy Pokemon every also by anything that even Pokemon is even the fact that the premise is like is put onto this game when it turns out the actual game play is not Pokemon. But the theme is the thing is enough for it to blow up on that premise alone. It's that's how you get to get I guess. Million plus thing is you have to like prove without a doubt
Starting point is 02:55:55 that it is going to like take business. So I don't think that's like in a court. Impossible. Yeah. You have to you have to tell you have to be like, this is so similar that people will think it's Pokemon. Here's the. Yeah, that's never happened. Here's the data. Yeah. No, it's there. There's there's there's nothing there to that. But believe me, what I say, but I mean, we're talking about Western Western
Starting point is 02:56:19 law because like, I don't know how. He laws actually a lot more stringent. OK. But the the the the the the Meme of the the big the fat guy with the knife leave the multi-million dollar company alone Fat guys with knives That thing got a lot of play. I used to be a gigantic Nintendo fan and like after last year I'm like completely done. Oh, I thought you were gonna say and then you you hit puberty No, I still haven't hit it. Oh
Starting point is 02:56:51 I'm waiting on it. That's why I sound like that Nintendo's like first-party software is incredible and the management of their company is like one of the most incompetent ever Yeah, I mean also like like my one of my favorite games of all time is Chibi Robo. And I'm going to be honest, like the way they treated that IP, their own IP is like basically what made me think like, I'm done here. Sorry, they can't hear you over the shit zillions of dollars. Yeah. They like, and if they don't care, I don't care. And
Starting point is 02:57:23 coded in them also not knowing or caring about what the other people with what the rest of the industry is doing. What's an internet? Can a Mario go on that internet? No Okay, well if if he can't he can but then we'll be replaced with the CPU on Why is it my phone Mario money now phone money? They did put Mario on the phone. Yeah, no. And then they took it away. And God bless.
Starting point is 02:57:51 I mean, again, those Askewattas were the investor meetings, not Askewattas, the investor meetings would go down. And they're going, why not Mario phone money now? And he's just like for like every every quarter. I think it's actually like fairly poignant that we're talking shit about Nintendo. But underneath Iwata, that company was run like in a way that you would kind of fantasize most companies being run. He was very public about taking like very significant pay cuts to CEO when the
Starting point is 02:58:23 company hit bad times and described, I don't have the exact quote, but he was like, if you just fire people to make your numbers, people are gonna have terrible morale because they're gonna be afraid of getting fired. So I don't think people who are just working out of fear of getting fired are gonna be able to do a good job.
Starting point is 02:58:45 Also mandatory anti-crunch and lighter worked weeks as well. Oh, is that a thing at Nintendo? I think there was a thing about them having forced cutoff points for the amount of work you can do. That's probably because of all the deaths. Did it overwork? Karoshi? The deaths? Karoshi is a thing. Oh, yeah, yeah, no, yeah.
Starting point is 02:59:11 That's probably because of that. Yep. So, yeah, then there was, I guess, an interview where they're with FF7R2 on the horizon, Kitase was talking about FF6 and he says, if we were to remake Final Fantasy 6 in the same vein as 7, it might take twice the amount of time it's taken to make 7. Yeah, it's just straight up like you motherfuckers are crazy. It would be a 20 year project. The volume we need to work on is much more than seven and it has
Starting point is 02:59:50 more. But all I'm saying is, all I'm saying is I'll be alive by them. You know that. I have the will. I'm sorry, but I have such fucking strong goddamn will you tell me in 20 years there's going gonna be ff6 remake I'm gonna fucking stay alive dude Pure fucking power of will just because I want to play that damn game Reminds me of the obsidian talking about pillars of eternity one when people were like It's gonna have as many maps as Balder skate to did and they're like we wouldn't be able to ship it on a fucking disc if it did Are you do you remember how many maps Balder's Gate two did you people are crazy?
Starting point is 03:00:28 FF six remake that many FF six remake is a pretty good reason to stay alive. That being said, if you try to sniff Pat's hands in the bathroom ever, he will stab you and I will. So yeah, I'll do it. Oh my god. Fine. Jesus. I get it. I have a I have a bubble of personal space that I don't like anyone to enter Ideally that was like three or four feet. It's it. Well, it's it's a I believe Given given no other external factors, it would be about the size of the moon, I believe It's been covered
Starting point is 03:01:03 You know what I'll tell you what man? Having a little baby boy Little bit less squeamish To human stuff Because there's a lot of human stuff Okay To get on you But it's a particular flavor of human stuff
Starting point is 03:01:18 I don't like the use of the term flavor of human stuff Yeah I was gonna say man you gotta fucking rethink what re-think what you just said. It's good Lord. It's your flavor of stuff He says we would need to prepare a lot of things I can't imagine that the task we Would have the task would have the resources we have to take on take it on at the moment the task would have the resources we have to take it on at the moment. Like look how long it took them to get up to like the full party in seven. The full party in fucking six is more than twice that.
Starting point is 03:01:55 Also, like, maybe I'm just, I don't know if this is true or not, but I feel as if like seven being a bit more, like being 3D, having a bit, being a bit more like being 3D, having a bit being a bit more close to modern than six, but even though it's like the game right after, like there's that there's a little less work to do in those some of those stages, you know, the six being done up in that way is like, yeah,
Starting point is 03:02:18 it's just it's an entirely new game, but then you want to give it the same breadth so that you're not just being a faithful recreation. You know, I think was Tim Rogers that talked about like the weird desire to remake FF7 came out like really fast, which was not an overwhelming feeling for Final Fantasy games prior. And it's because FF7 was the first of its type. It was the first 3D and it was, you know, a little blocky, Popeye looking dudes. So the first of its type. It was the first 3D, and it was little blocky, Popeye looking dudes.
Starting point is 03:02:47 So the age was felt faster. You could immediately see all the ways that it could be improved. That worked a complete wholesale redo. That makes a lot of sense because I also feel like, I feel like the two were always seven in Chrono Trigger, but I love what Chrono Trigger currently looks like a lot. Yeah, because no one's been screaming at the top
Starting point is 03:03:11 of their lungs, remake FF9 forever. That would be cool, but like... It already looks great. FF9 actually needs to be cleaned up a little bit. And you grew in this by playing the version that you played like two years ago. to add well and to be fair people are decrying are crying for a remake of every one of them but by real to comparison yeah yeah yeah but like FF7 like even the Popeye guys are like the
Starting point is 03:03:35 the CG that was like barely able to hold itself together like you can you could you were playing at the time and it was the most mind-blowing thing in the world and then like two months later You're like, oh, they got to clean that part up. They could have yeah I had the you know the the battle models on the field and not have to do a little pop-eye guys And I mean like literally punch mom just beat seven last night, you know Oh, yeah, that was just watching that just watching that's final sequence going down and yeah I'm just like, oh, yeah when Supernova gets cast, like fucking get the popcorn.
Starting point is 03:04:09 That's gonna go. But yeah, I think that's a really good observation. The fact that it enters low poly 3D is gonna be, the fact that low poly 3D is where the improvements are like much more obvious. Like people wanted a port of FF 10 and then they were like, oh, we'll clean it up. But people weren't screaming for decades like remake FF 10 from the ground up. It's like, no, because it was, I mean, you look at FF 10, you're like, yeah,
Starting point is 03:04:40 that's a PS2 game and it's got the voice acting. It's got this and it's got that. That being said, didn't age as much. Yeah. If there were to be another task, this gargantuan, six fucking deserves it. If they ever were to be that insane. Yeah, but at the same time, six doesn't like demand it. You know, it doesn't, but it would be so cool.
Starting point is 03:05:04 If anything, like if they genuinely want to remake FF6, I feel like what they could do is what they did with like a bit more like a bit more time and like polish, but what they could do what they did with the new Star Ocean Star Ocean 2 remake. Yeah, clean it up. I'm super happy with that. Yeah. Yeah. So the pixel remasters. The pixel remasters are the clean it up. I'd be super happy with that. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. So the pixel remasters.
Starting point is 03:05:25 Yeah, just clean it up. The pixel remasters are the clean it up bit and they've included the, um, Yeah. the little bit of like like slight 3D, like the opera scene gets the 3D scene. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 03:05:35 and the vocals and the multi language track for that and stuff. So it's, you know, that's their version of it. Plus they got the original sprite artist to redo the same, you know, and improve it in that way. So I think this is as much as they're going to do. Like they're not going to go the full Star Ocean route, but yeah, this is the cleanup, you know. Yeah, cool.
Starting point is 03:05:52 I forgot about pixel remaster. I'm going to be honest. That was that was I forgot they already remastered them. Yeah, that was how I played six upscaled. Yeah. Where they fix sign. So that he's actually good. Cool. All right, let's grab some letters. Hey, if you want to
Starting point is 03:06:13 send in a letter that we could read, and it's probably gonna have a question, make it short and send it to Castle Super Beast mail gmail.com. That's castle super beast mail and gmail.com. And that's the best thing about it. And that's the best thing about it. And that's the best thing about it. And that's the best thing about it. And that's the best thing about it.
Starting point is 03:06:25 And that's the best thing about it. And that's the best thing about it. And that's the best thing about it. And that's the best thing about it. And that's the best thing about it. And that's the best thing about it. And that's the best thing about it. And that's the best thing about it.
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Starting point is 03:06:41 And that's the best thing about it. And that's the best thing about it. And that's the best thing about it. And that's the best thing about it. And that's the best thing about it. And that's the best thing about it. And that's the best thing about it. And that's the best thing about it. and intentionally smaller back to basics approach, a direction that I wish many other triple A studios would take. What other franchises do you think would benefit from limiting themselves to a smaller scope, whether that's a smaller scale story
Starting point is 03:06:51 or less overall content or lighter gameplay systems? All of them. Tap the sign. Oh, what's the quote? Gotta get it right. I want games with worse graphics. Shorter games with worse graphics, and I'm not kidding. There's a variations of that of like,
Starting point is 03:07:14 Made by people who are paid more to work less. To work less, and I'm not kidding. Yeah. I want worse games made by worse people. No, that's not what we said. Yeah. Shorter games with worse graphics made by worse people. No, that's not what we said. Yeah. Shorter games with worse graphics made by people who are paying more.
Starting point is 03:07:29 Worse games made by worse people is incoming this year after all these layoffs. Yeah! Absolutely. Yeah! There you go. Yeah, at that level, basically, basically all of it, right? I mean, there's- I would say say all because then I would be able to get like more newer,
Starting point is 03:07:49 weirder games I wouldn't take so goddamn long on a much games with risks on a much more targeted level. I do feel like the persona games could like tighten up the endings in some cases when they when they meander longer It's gonna be really interesting with p3 because p3 is a much shorter more concise and the best one game The best one. I love that ending. You know, I don't think it's the best one But I think it's pretty good the best of the endings and is what I'm all the endings. Yes. I liked which one ha ha Okay, no, that's that's that's not wrong with that. That's a good one to now. I'm in this weird place where my favorite persona game is the now technically
Starting point is 03:08:31 the oldest persona. I guess persona one and two are fake. I always yes. Well, we all know the could the graph right? One one is blue. Two is yellow. Two is yellow and three is red. That's that's the percent of the. Yeah. Um, no, no. So I, I, I, yeah, Billy, the way I always kind of parse this is like, I'm like to me, three has the best ending. Four has the best antagonist and five has the best crew. That's that's that's my feeling about it.
Starting point is 03:09:01 Yeah, I'd agree on that. Oh, man, that reminds me. Somebody in the chat mentioned it about infinite wealth. Because you're in America, half the time when you start fights, the enemy Americans will yell out, all sue you as their battle cry. That's fucking awesome. America. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. their bad cry. That's fucking awesome. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 03:09:33 All right. Oh, well, yeah, then far not far hardly triple A at all, but I definitely remember there's a point to her like the incredible game that is Hollow Knight could also be a little bit shorter. It could be a little bit. Just a little bit. Silksong's going to come out and like I genuinely feel like one of the complaints about Silksong is that it's bloated because they kept working on it more and they were like, well, we've got to add more and added like two or three extra years of dev time
Starting point is 03:10:06 to make the game too long Like that's what I'm feeling in my gut Or we could just wait for pocket pair and And then that'll be then you know you can just play that and then they'll they'll take all the All the sinks so long anticipation. Um, we got one coming in from no name given. Um, anonymous writes in, excuse me, I got it from rope. Rope says greetings, honorable Judge Woolley and prosecutor Pat.
Starting point is 03:10:42 Hey, with the Apollo, with the Apollo Justice trilogy coming out on Steam recently, I started playing the Great Ace Attorney Chronicles and I have come to a single conclusion this is the best Ace Attorney game by far. What are your opinions on the Ace Attorney games and what are your favorite cases and characters throughout the series? I absolutely adore all of them, though I haven't gotten to the great Ace Attorney Chronicles. Though I should mention while I'm talking about this, I got sponsored to play Apollo Justice earlier in the week. Yeah.
Starting point is 03:11:08 Hell card. They really cleaned up that fucking Nintendo DS game. It's crazy. I was, yeah, I was gonna say, they also sent me an early copy for our show and like, I had issues with the original trilogy remasters, especially the presentation and like, holy shit, the work they put in. It's so good.
Starting point is 03:11:30 Oh, what's my favorite case? Oh, it's it's it's the final case of Injustice for All. It's my favorite case. I came overall is fairly immediate mid, but that final case is incredible. It's peak. It's so good. Yeah.
Starting point is 03:11:50 I mean, look, I'm not going to lie. That franchise has been a LP potential thing waiting to happen, and the biggest hurdle has always been the amount of dialogue. Oh, dude, Paige came over to help me with that, to do the voice acting. And then we did it for like the two hours for the sponsorship. And at the end, despite sharing the voice acting with her,
Starting point is 03:12:14 we were both shot. Well- Like it's so much. So my thought is I'm getting practice with the FF games that were for voice acting as we play them. And I'm getting a lot of practice with our fucking audio book that I'm reading out on stream. So like in another way, I'm like,
Starting point is 03:12:32 this is me kind of doing this disco Elysium story while preparing to be able to take on something like Phoenix Wright as an LP or a Plainscape Torment or something like that. Like I wanna just train so that I can do it and read it out and we can tackle that type of thing. Good luck with that shit. Yeah, I'm fingers crossed, but I just,
Starting point is 03:12:54 it's such a cool series that I always wanted to fucking go for it. You could try Ghost Trick. Ghost Trick's a lot shorter. I played Ghost Trick for a bit and I did like it, but like I played, yeah, the first or second case of Phoenix Ride. I got like two or three bit and I did like it. But I played the first or second case of Phoenix, right? I got two or three cases in and I loved it. I just always wanted to get that LP going.
Starting point is 03:13:11 And I was telling you, Billy, all the antagonists are so fucking sick in all of the games, from Edgeworth to Godot to the two brothers from later on. Like all the fucking antagonist designs are fucking tight, I love that. I mean, most designs are fucking incredible except for Big Top.
Starting point is 03:13:33 I fucking hate Big Top turnabouts so much. What about that clown bitch that everybody likes? Oh no wait, that's not for you. Oh, sorry fellas, not for me. Not for me. The inventor of Clussie. Yeah, she single-handedly. Oh my god. I think Big Top Turnabout might be my fucking most hated case I've ever played in those series. It's so bad. The twist, like the fucking thing with the wheelchair is just absolutely brain-dead stupid as shit.
Starting point is 03:14:01 You know, I've heard that apparently the fucking anime, the anime version of Big Top Turnabout is actually like really good. I bet it's because it's fast. Yeah, I bet it's because most of it is just gone. Because holy shit, does it drag? Have you, have you, have you gone through that? Anime? No, no, I have not. Okay, that's what I was. No, he doesn't. We talked about this. Well, he doesn't know about it.
Starting point is 03:14:32 Um, we did. We did talk about this. We talked about it. Yeah. Because there's a couple. I remember when, um, holy shit, it came to the persona once. I was like remembering how like some, some of the anima's for persona are like just don't completely just avoid them entirely. And some of them are actually not bad, but like you got to know which ones are the ones that are worth diving into or so.
Starting point is 03:14:59 Yeah, anyway, all right. It was almost Christmas means it wasn't Christmas. Oh, do you not want to say the word lifestyle? Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh. Oh, oh, then I have no idea where we're going I thought I'll refers to a singular person who is living their best life as a clown I See it has a like a little song about living the lifestyle in front of like against the haters Okay, okay, okay. Yeah, it is a night that you really can't look away from once you start. No, we occasionally over over unwaverly versus we've occasionally hit up against the the the the infinite depth
Starting point is 03:15:55 that is, you know, the clown, the clown fetish hole. There's a lot you can go into there. Clussy is quite an established. Is the clown fetish whole infinitely deep because it's a clown car style hole? Or that is correct. You know, it starts with the Phoenix Wright character. You might turn it at Harley Quinn or you might hit bouncy.
Starting point is 03:16:21 But one way or another, you can just keep going into the mallet space. I hate this. I hate this. Oh, oh. All right. I don't like clowns, by the way. I wanted that known, I don't like them.
Starting point is 03:16:35 Well, okay, but it's not about whether you don't like them or not. It's more like do you have a fear? I don't believe in them. I don't believe in them. Yeah, okay, all right. Do you have a paralyzing crippling fear of the clown is the real thing?
Starting point is 03:16:47 No, they just make me very uncomfortable. I agree, fuck clowns. Like when you're around a clown, you're like, shit, fuck that. Not scared of them, but they make me uncomfortable. Yeah, it makes it like, someone looking down once I believe they're saying that, like, yeah, it makes sense that adults hate clowns
Starting point is 03:17:01 because like, as a kid, you love a clown because it's exaggerated facial no, and like If you're going to knew exactly what was what and that was no clowns if you're going to like it as a kid It's because of the exaggerated facial features for the same reasons that like a big mascot or something will work But then as an adult that on Canny Valley shit and everything exaggerated starts to look more and more horrifying So yeah, you know I can see. I can see that's the idea. It's just I don't find them fucking funny. I also don't find the funny. No, they're fucking steal its nose and push it down the stairs. It's also a 1950s entertainment trope
Starting point is 03:17:38 like we're currently commenting. You know what I mean? Commenting. Yeah. But why is it still? If it wants to be if if clowns want want to be like not commented on they got to stop Why are they still going? It's since the 50s because because then I don't know where a story comes out about People seeing clowns appearing in the middle of the woods driving out into the dark I am going to go to the clown egg museum and I'm going to eat every single clown egg I see sorry. Are you implying that clowns are being hatched? What is the clown egg museum? Oh, you don't know what a clown egg is.
Starting point is 03:18:12 Okay, inform, please. Okay, so when you become a famous, okay. When you when you become a really famous clown, you get you get to paint an egg of your clown face. Like you paint your clown face on the egg and then it goes to the museum and you are basically recognized as one of the like main, uh, like one of the important clowns in the world. Okay. This is not a bit. This is 100% true.
Starting point is 03:18:41 I mean, it kind of is a bit. Well, for them, everything's a fucking joke. So like, sure. Pat, we gotta get your face up in that museum. You know, there's a there's a there's a regi. There's a clown egg register out out there. Loving that, aren't you? You just sitting there and stewing in it.
Starting point is 03:18:57 Look at the joy in his fucking face. There's a there's a clown egg register. You're so fucking smart. Oh, and if I go there, There's a there's a clown egg registry smart. Oh and If I go there, I'm just gonna start fucking eating the clown eggs. I don't know what to tell you these like I'm open. Oh, yeah. No, these are real eggs. You are going to get sick as fuck if you eat these things Oh, man, I don't give a fuck. Okay. I'll I'll absorb their powers. There's a horror movie Who's ever said I'm gonna eat it and then someone goes you'd get sick and then they go I don't give a fuck you'll give a fuck later No life was better before I knew about clown eggs cool
Starting point is 03:19:34 That's I agree. I also agree. That's pretty good. Okay. There's a really good Irish Clown horror movie and it's it's hilarious, but and it's all about like clown eggs and how like mystical they are and shit it's very funny I can't remember off the top of my head I think it's like something stitches but I can't remember all right well look um Krusty gets a pass no yes Krusty gets a pass. I vote no. The great Pagliacci gets a pass. Oh, it's the, it is stitches. The movie is called stitches. Very good. Very good. Okay. Thank you for, I see, wait, hold on. I see no one. I see? I see no ICP egg, that's a very, that's.
Starting point is 03:20:29 Insincere. I mean, dude, what are we doing? Are they real clowns? Are they in the registry? They're the realist clowns that have ever existed. Really, where can people find you? Are they legally clowns? Oh my God, okay, I guess we're done.
Starting point is 03:20:46 I'm being silenced again. We would be out on a high note, but let our people know. Okay, you can find me on my YouTube channel. Please stop talking. I have four different podcasts. I have my comedy podcast, Please Stop Talking, Pondering Spooky Tates, my horror movie podcast, please stop talking, pondering spooky dates, my horror movie podcast, Perilous Storytelling, my D&D podcast, and Press Start Turbo, my gaming podcast, which Wuli is going to be on,
Starting point is 03:21:15 where we have a little conversation about his few years in QA and it's a pretty good time. I think it's a pretty good time. I think it's pretty good time. We're also on Spotify and on Twitter. It's just some music. Oh, why? Papa is going to Billy. Merci.
Starting point is 03:21:33 All right. I hope you all hope you all enjoyed the podcast this week. Y'all stay safe out there. One. Don't eat any clown eggs, dude. Apparently.

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