Castle Super Beast - CSB 255: Nucwea Waunch Detected

Episode Date: February 6, 2024

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Music Oh Normal that I can't see you at all you cannot see me at all you should just well. oh, yeah, here you go. Oh my goodness, that's crazy. You don't need to, you don't need, what do you need to see any of this for? That's- Sometimes I need to look at your face to determine your emotions, because we can have some sarcasm happening.

And uh-oh, what if it goes poorly? And you have no extra indicators to figure out what's happening. Is that, just what's happening is that Or dirt is that laughter is that crying? I need I need something Yeah admittedly when we've when we've had guests on some in the in the past where there's been no video Like that is an extra like pause for any sound effect or indicator of what's happening. Oh, I'm so sorry You know especially when like, you know, we we swing for the fences. And it's like, you know, you have those moments of like, okay, either this is

you're going to be super chill and down or you're going to get really offended or, you know, like one of the really good things about like having like now last week, last, Billy on last week was like got a good look at his eyes when we're off on our fucking adventure. I'm like, oh, he's gearing up to say something stupid. Right, right. All right. I'm saying it's stupid and I'm not looking at like disappointment or confusion. I'm looking for somebody like warming up.

Ready to return fire. To go ready to say their own stupid thing. Yes, yes, yes, correct. Yeah, that's, there's a lot of dumb indicators that you need. True. How's it going? How's it going?

I'm sitting here in fucking awe in absolute astonishment of the absolute hell world that we live in that two minutes before starting this discord call I learned about big-ass world important news from breaking new rules Twitter account which let me know that quote a whoa King Tows diagnosed with cancer will postpone public facing duties while undergoing treatment. Buckingham Palace says emoji. And that was how you discovered the the news. That's how I like that's hell world shit dude that's that is absolute dystopic nightmare shit to be fair you can filter out all news to just find out everything

important through that. Oh I'm following them now. Yeah so if you wanted to that's how I want to be like I want to be sitting there like, I wonder what's in the news and read like, Nucrea fucking attack detected. Yes, yes, Nucrea launch detected. That's that's how I want to be sitting there. Oh, yeah. Well, yeah, woo woo indeed. Yeah, I wonder, I wonder if that gets dropped into an Uwu filter if someone takes the time to manually Uwu-fine it. It's an automated, it's a robot, so I think it's just scraping BBC headlines and Uwu-ficationing them.

Okay, yeah. You can, you know, replace your L's with W's and delete your Rs and such. Oh, how you doing, man? All right. Had a yeah, pretty, pretty eventful one. I would say big up top on the brain is fucking Persona 3. Persona 3 reload, man, man. So that that is this discussion is is sponsored. It's it's double possibly even triple sponsored

Depending how you look on it may may be We were given significant financial incentives to tell you about persona 3 reload and we fulfilled those obligations And and with those obligations done I continued to play it Hey, you want some money stream persona? Yeah. Yeah. No, that's the deal. So it's one of the-

Sure. No, so like we hit the two hour mark and I was like, OK, well, anyway, just keep going like it is what it is. Yeah, no, I just, it's a real nice feeling going back to that and, you know, getting washed over with the memories of going through it and stuff. And I like, it was one of those bits where I was like, okay, I know that I'm like always hesitant to read, go tread over like long things that that took a while. And Punch Mom got about, I think, like halfway through her P3P run.

But the the the wall was just that the that tech was too it was the gameplay was just it was too grindy and she was just, you know, she was like not having fun with like a lot of the Tartarus stuff, especially removed from the day-to-day life. So yeah, this drop just kind of revitalized that and she's jumped right back in and just playing that intro sequence and seeing how things are improved and stuff has absolutely fucking pulled me. It's really interesting that you specifically mentioned that because I was talking on the social media about this

And that like I beat P4 way back in the day and I beat P5 when it came out back in the day But I never finished Golden and I never finished Royal And I never played the answer and P3 in particular. I was like I was like floor like fucking 220 it way way back in the day mm-hmm and I was like oh I wonder if I should play the answer afterwards I'll go look at the game spot review and the game spot video review spoils the ending of persona 3 within like the first 30 seconds of you clicking the video right and it was the oh And so like I love the risk but like going back to play a 100 hour RPG

again is Like a a Gargantuan ask of many people. Yeah, look that was that's a risky click given where you were stopped at But at the same time didn't think for a second that a fucking video review of a fucking game would be like by the way Here's the ending But with with royal even upon completion of the original five like yeah I don't I just don't have that retread in me and also I've you know repeated ad nauseam I feel like media guilt because of how much people want me to see and play things to go back over an

entire p5 run Instead of experiencing something new Yeah, you gotta you gotta give up like playing Pete I will I will we will definitely get to specifics on Pete 3 in just a second. Yeah. But after playing Pete 3, I'm like, you know what? Since I never beat Golden in Royal, fuck it.

Mm-hmm, mm-hmm. I get that. After I put the baby down at night, I'm gonna fucking kick an hour or two into Golden and then Royal and then three. So yeah, that makes sense. For me, having beaten, actually hit the credits and beating them, like I'm like, I'm feeling a bit more satisfied with what I got.

And, you know, I admit, and like when the time came, it's like, oh, SMT five came out. That's a brand new experience. I want to go through it. I just went through that off screen and completed it. But like I'm just not going to get pulled into the retread for these games, even though the retread is always going to be super duper good and worth it and amazing updates in each each time, you know, for the golden three to fast,

you know, even without the answer, like a lot of that stuff is just like it's and yeah, now we get to P3 in which P3 is like been the most bizarre and complex game to recommend where it's like Okay, this is the start of the new shit Right. Yeah, okay, which version do you want to play? Do you want to play the original? Which is the original? That's exactly how it was all the way back in 2006. Do you want to play fez? Which adds some stuff including a Extra campaign quality of life universally reviled. Yep quality of life, but also the bad campaign

And it doesn't have the one quality of life It really really needed which is the ability to control your party members Or do you want to play the PSP version? Which is an enhanced port of the game that has lots more features and everything you want but has No graphics you can't walk around the world It doesn't have any graphics which if you're looking for if you do want us if you do want a streamline a day of activities You can scroll through the map and just click on the people you want to talk to you know, but it's but at the same time It's not just an extended

Quality of life and content. It's like it's not just an extended quality of life and content. It's like it's an alternate campaign. You can play a different main character. Let's say humongous change, you know? So, um, yeah. And I actually went through the answer. I actually was like, no, I want to know.

And I, you know, go through it and I'm like, oh, yeah, it's super not worth it. So yeah, it's, it's. Bro, they could, they could just, just give you the compend could they could just just give you the compendium Just just give you the compendium. That's it. So the real the real like loss with P3 reload is to not include a fem C campaign, right? Yeah, but that was never gonna happen I mean, I understand the amount it would be it's it's a the workload is nuts It's a second playable character. It's an entire duplicate, you know effort to that and I but then I guess the workload is nuts. It's a second playable character. It's a second. It's an entire duplicate, you know, effort to that. And I but I guess the thought is it's a remake of a super old game and there's no rush because we were just waiting for

the improvement to come whenever. Right. So I think it would have been OK to take a bit longer but also give that option because it's such a cool option and it legitimately also gives anybody who let's say, played FES or original, but didn't play P3P. Wanted to, if you wanted to see what the alternate S-links are like, following up with like the dudes, you know? You get a whole other record. Yeah, so one of the things is like they have,

like they could have ported the lady campaign or they could have taken the the the fem see like Efforts that it would have taken and so now we have fully voiced the social links and now we have a bunch of new Episodes where you hang out with the boys because you never hung out with the boys in any of the originals. Yeah So that it's content that existed, you know And you would hope that essentially the final new release is the perfect release with all Yeah, that anyone could ask for but unfortunately it is as good as you could possibly this is really this is really it's well It's lacking those things, but it's really fucking good. Yeah, I think

So there's there's leakers that have leaked that the answer is coming in the future. Mmm Jesus okay leaked that the answer is coming in the future. Mm. Jesus. OK, you're fine. So I can I can think of some improvements you can make with some very slight tweaks. God, would they release a FemSe campaign later? That's that'd be a lot. That would be so much. That'd be a lot.

You'd have to. Yeah. I think that'd be probably too much. Wow. Huh. But answer. Answer incoming. That's crazy. Okay. It is Persona 3 reload is fucking so weird because it is absolutely the hottest newest most modern persona game ever bolted on top of the oldest one with

weirdly small changes. Like you're back down to three social stats. Social links doesn't give you anything other than like more XP when you fuse. No abilities, no, the oldest real one. Come on guys, you know what I'm talking about. And I guess, and the real opportunity to reverse an S link Right, yeah, you can finally you can you can tell girls you just want to be friend which was not possible later at the same time the

The the introduction right off the bat of the fucking rewind system. Oh, man of the fucking rewind system? Oh man. Oh shit. Oh shit. So what happens essentially is every save you rotate is actually a folder of multiple saves for that day. Yeah, it's the past five states. So anytime you made a decision in the day that you might want to go undo, whether it

was a test or who you wanted to hang out with, you can load up your save and actually go back a little earlier in that day and undo it and do it again. Like you can roll back to full days. Incredible. Incredible quality of life. So like, and, but like, that's really important for P3 because P3, you can hit like the full moon chapter and be like well

Fuck right. I'm fucking boned also. I can't beat this also if you're not trying to run the super optimized Like don't even think just follow the guide perfect play You know optimize the fun out of it as as it were there's also the pull up the Network menu to see what other people did this day to see what's possible, you know? So that P5 function, which was like, it was interesting, because I was like, huh, what's the point of this?

That's also in golden, that's actually a golden function. Oh, okay, okay. Yeah, and it's like, I mean, do you really need this? And it's like, actually, yeah, it is pretty useful to know like, hey, today there's nothing else to do. Don't worry about it. You know? There's a bunch of, like, actually, yeah, it is pretty useful to know like, hey, today, there's nothing else to do. Don't worry about it. You know, there's, there's a bunch of like, so there's, there's, there's, you know, I got the guide up on GameFAQs about what to do on every day and make sure to roll through the entirety of Tartarus in a single

evening, which is for insane people. No guide. And this, this fulfills like a nice in between because you can use it as much or as little as you want. You could just like I'm going to do what the what the most people do on any given day or I really can't make a decision. I need choices on a board in front of me. Right. But when I was playing it to make the video I made for it, which you can go to the past years at YouTube channel to look at the video preview I made of this game that was also sponsored.

I used it for one very specific purpose, which was I would click on it and it would say like, hung out with Gourmet King. And I'd be like, I can hang out with Gourmet King today? I haven't even met Gourmet King. I didn't know that was possible. Yeah, that. I'm like, how can hang out with Gourmet King today? I haven't even met Gourmet King. I didn't know that was possible, yeah. I'm like, how do I, ooh. And then I went and talked to Kenji,

and Kenji was like, by the way, so you could go hang out with this kid named Gourmet King. I'm like, oh, okay, so that's how I do it. So it would keep me active. So if I saw like, hung out with Chahiro today, but I didn't even unlock her link, I'd be like, oh, I guess she's available now if I do whatever.

Yeah, five five was big for that, exactly. Yeah, you'd see like, oh, I'm lacking in this. I didn't even meet that person, et cetera. That's wonderful. That's a really good feature. The, there's a weird aspect to this too is actually like running around the base of Tartarus and seeing behind the stairs and stuff. Yeah, just be like, oh yeah, like running around the base of Tartarus and seeing behind the stairs and stuff.

Yeah, just be like, oh yeah, like running around these environments that I know, seeing them from different angles. It's such a simple thing, but I'm like, that's a fun little thing that I'm enjoying there. And yeah, the new voice acting is fantastic. Oh, that's great. Some of the actors are like dead ringers.

Like whoever they have doing Mitsuru's voice is so close. A great, yeah, Tara impression there and nailing that. While also you have Liam O'Brien now as the cop. He's hidden away. Yeah, yeah. The police station. So they're like, oh, the actual, you know, the actual voice actors like didn't come on for the full gig Ryan now as the cop. He's hitting away. Yeah. The police station. So they're like, oh, the actual, you know, the actual voice actors like didn't come on

for the full gig, but did get a character in there, you know, is a little bit. So that's that's fun to, um, Allegra Clark, Clark, right? I believe, um, Oh, Marissa Marissa. Marissa. Marissa. Yes. Yes.

Moisa and Mitsuwou doing fantastic there. Uh, yeah, no, a lot of that is just hitting. And then, of course, the simplicity of I talked to this NPC today. Now their thing is great, which made sure when I told, I will talk to Wally about it last week because we're talking about getting our streams. Oh, I like made sure I'm like, I'm going to do the video, but I'm going to have like a fucking 45 second cut of me talking to like 10 people next to each other

in the fucking school. So in light, see, it goes gray. See, it goes gray. Cause I, a lot of people may forget that, Wally, you played P3 and you played P4 and you came down and you were like, oh yeah, it took me about 150, 170 hours. And people were like befuddled.

They were like. 120 something, yeah. It was crazy. Yeah. And you were like, well, I just talked to people on the street. And it's like, a lot of that was wasted time, not your fault, but they had no indication that they had new dialogue.

You ran into the fucking trails in the sky problem. Ah, okay, okay, yeah. And each of these characters has their own little storylines You ran into the fucking trails in the sky problem. Ah Okay, okay. Yeah, and each of these characters has their own little story lines that they go on you know I didn't know that They talk into the cab driver at Iwamoto die station. Yeah, apparently being a cab driver at that station sucks ass It's it's like it's not just a random person with a random bit of flavor text that like adds to the world. It's like you can see these people multiple times as they go through their life journey as you play.

And also, hey, so if you're, you know, you could use the shortcut system to just teleport around to people and, you know, not waste your time. But if you did decide to walk to your locations, you may encounter little Twilight fragments that you can use to open up fancy chests and give yourself Volt Party Restores and Tartarus. And now, wandering a boot is not a waste of time. Now, the concern I had, which is how often do these refresh?

Right. I don't know. They do. I know they do. My hope is by chapter, right? Because I picked up one at the front, the two statues in the main lobby. I picked up one there once.

They don't refresh ever? Oh, whoa, okay. Because walking around the school, I saw a bunch of them in the same environment. So I was like, oh, no. I thought for sure I'd have to do it twice. Okay. Oh, but the ones in Tartarus do.

In Tartarus. And the ones that Elizabeth gives you for getting social links. I see. And in Tartarus, that's a replenishing resource because you can always change up the level and see yourself. Oh, okay. See how I... All right. That makes sense then. Well, yeah, so that's. Oh, that's super smart, because that means the ones

out in the world are for your first two months of Tartarus. And then later. And then you have a bunch of S-Links, and then you're in the parts of Tartarus, which give you the fragments. So if you wanna just run Tartarus, just run Tartarus and keep running Tartarus. And get enough to open up the later ones, yeah run Tartarus and keep running Tartarus.

And get enough to open up the later ones. Yeah, and I don't know what the requirements will be, but I'm assuming that at some point you're going to hit chests that are going to be like, yo, this is going to cost 50 or some wild shit. I doubt that. I think it's one and three. Oh, really? The ones that are one are always like a healing item that you wasted your time opening. The ones that are three are always a piece of equipment.

Gotcha, gotcha. So yeah, that's an interesting reason to keep exploring, you know, that they've put in as well. And yeah, like in terms of just jumping into combat, man, it's so cool seeing like how fucking gorgeous everything looks when you land a crit, the lighting change on the models and everything. The fact that, like I remember like, this is the type, there's moments in the game where

like it used to be an anime cutscene and here they're cutting to in-game play and you're like oh no that's fine, the gameplay looks unbelievable. I saw people complaining about that, it's like oh I wanted an anime cutscene, I'm like no but the in-game models are excellent. It looks amazing, I had no issue about that. It's like, oh, I wanted to animate cutscene. Like, no, but the game models are excellent. It looks amazing. I had no issue with that. They still do have anime cutscenes sometimes, but the but the times when they didn't and it looked great.

Yeah, I just again, you there's just a lot that kicks in. And one of my favorite things was the the way battles end in P5 was just peak style and like like whether it was the all out attack like explosion pop screen or the all right Joker let's get back to business and the slow run back into the dungeon. Right. And here it's like okay they never had that in the past you just had your shuffle time or your ending screen art and they found a way to integrate it with the done and dusted Yeah, cuz shuffle time happens first and then your ending string art kicks in

Yeah, and you get that stylish little pose, you know, and it's like right back in shuffle time has been like made sane You know you get to it's like that is a massive change that is ultimately quality of life because you're gonna be in this fucking these you're gonna be grinding through this tower just a really weird game because they changed like a lot of the battle system just like straight improvements visuals navigation etc but like the core of what's in there they kept like unflinchingly the same. And in some cases, you just get some fucking whiplash from 2006. I don't know if you ever finished the Hermit Arcana. Was that Park Dude?

No, that's the MMO. That's the MMO. Oh, yes. Fucking thing. Yeah, yeah's the MMO. That's the MMO. Oh, yes. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yes. Yes. Yes. Spoilers. I know. I know what you're talking about. Oh boy. Like the MMO Arcana involves you being like actively groomed by your homeroom teacher. Yeah. If she's like DMing you being like I love teenagers like I love them I love to use my power over them as a teacher to get them

P5 just like whoa man P5 Becky is just the second coming of that arc of that are that of that story Well, it's it's the second shot and they tried to make it work because instead of the teacher grooming you second shot and they tried to make it work because instead of the teacher grooming you you have a position of power over your teacher and ours actually blackmailing them for sex. Yeah, it's super weird. Um, and you get, uh, what's your McCulloch? Um, and yeah, and back in Tartarus as well. One of the, one of the signs that you know, like overall, like I know that there's like,

oh, some of the remixes are hitting, some of them, you know, people are not feeling as much. Overall, the vibe, I just, I loved what I was hearing for most of the time. So the Iwatonai dorm theme actually sounds way better in-game than it does with the track they put out. Ah, okay, okay. I fucking, I'm jamming with it every time.

I love it when Lotus Hughes kicks in. And then Lotus Hughes, like, also singing a little bit in that, that of the new theme, like, you know, when disturbing the piece, I don't know if that's what it's called, but disturbing the piece. You know, that thing is great. Oh, that's I have it on my computer somewhere. When a new theme kicks in, you know a persona theme works because you're humming it in your head for like a while after that.

I'm like, God, okay. This is the track. It's going down. Yeah. I'm like, that thing was stuck in my head immediately, you know? And it definitely sounds more like the newer games. It has that newer persona vibe to it compared to the older ones, but great new track. I love that it pops when you get an ambush as well.

So is there like a failure track for when you get ambushed? No, no, the mass destruction is your standard and your ambush track. Okay. They could do a no vocal fail version. I think adding full voice acting specifically to all the S-Links in Persona 3 is particularly important because we've got four and five in which four started the trend of the coolest weird thing.

Oh, there's a fox at the, oh my God. You're gonna hang out with this weird magic fox or this grieving old lady who might literally be deaf. Ooh, but Persona 3 asked, hey man, what if you didn't have anything to do after school and your choices were like two or three guys that you don't even really like, but they wanna hang out with you.

Yeah. Like, do you want to go to fucking Haga Kurey ramen and listen to Kenji be like insufferably creepy? Or do you want to fucking go down and tell Miyamoto to fucking stop running so hard he's gonna split his ass open? Or do you want wanna go talk to the little girl and take her out to dinner and look like a creep so you can tell her that her parents are getting divorced because of her? I mean, coming into it with preconceived notions, I was also like, oh right, yeah, okay,

Reggie's seeing this all for the first time. But just Eve really nice and early within a matter of just a couple scenes. It was like, yeah, what's wrong with this Jinpei guy? He seems fine, he has the cool bat and he does it was like, yeah, what's wrong with this Genpei guy? He seems fine. He has the cool bat and he does the home runs in arena. That's fine. And then it's like, okay, all right, dude, off.

Is there anyone else to hang with? No, we have to walk home with him. Fuck, you know, like, it's like, yeah. Mandatory. You established that nice and early. Mandatory. Man, it takes a while before fucking Koromaru shows up. Do you wanna fucking go down to the bookstore and feel the unceasing weight of dementia?

Just crush your heart? It's old future love. It's going to be great. We all have good things to look forward to. Oh, man. Yeah. The S-links are definitely, I mean, they're always kind of wild, but like there's a lot of fucking God, final spend time with you in this. Although

Elizabeth's voice actor is still the same. Yeah, very distinct there. And it goes without saying in every one of these games, but like the demon fusion upgrades, which thankfully are Rolled not just across the persona series, but the entire SMT series that come finally there We have a we have a baseline of games you can start at and not Deal with the fusion nightmare, which I think is starting at like SMT4 or P4G. Yeah, because I remember when like way back years and years ago, Shmup Godpat was like showing me some of the stuff in P3 and introducing it and so on, but didn't, it was all just the cool stuff and it wasn't any of the grindy bits.

It wasn't the... That was his trick. Yeah, it was like... Like, hey man, you want to check out this game or this series? Here's like like, oh, here's like a, I've made a save file or a series of save files to show you 45 cool things in a row. Key moments. And then I remember you were the one that was like, go to the demon fusion, go in, back out, go in, back out, go in, those are the spells you want,

except maybe that one, fuck, all right, back out. It's like, what's your personal level of patience for this? So no, and then pulling up websites to enter in. These are the demons I have. What can I do with them? I still can't do the fucking fusion requests without a guide. Oh, I don't cards. I don't know the system. I don't know how it works. I don't care. Yeah, making making specific ones with specific abilities is yeah, I'm like that.

I never I only fit like I barely bothered with those, you know, if I happen to have the ability to like few I'll take that. I'll sit down, fuse like a couple to make like super fusions But the the ones that were just like insane were like nah, man too much There's a There's a mechanic that I haven't gotten to yet, but I was talking to somebody else about called third G or the RG It's basically characters limit breaks Like like super attacks, builds up on a meter.

And it is based off of their old AI personalities. So like Yukari's meter builds when she heals, and Mitsuru's builds when she casts two buffs on the enemy. Fucking Karen. And like Junpei's builds up when he gets critical hits. Okay. Interesting. So it's it's trying to fucking make you play them like they used to be. And if you don't use them though that way, then each shit, I suppose. Okay. Yeah. And I mean, I suppose. Mm-hmm, mm-hmm. Okay. Yeah, and I mean, I guess, well, I definitely didn't get far enough in to see

how some of the other later wrestling's pop up and stuff, but I wonder if Shinji's gonna get any, like, is he gonna get any, like, is he gonna get his great gospel, you know? I don't, I think he gets one of those. I think he does get a theory. That would be interesting. That's a cool thing to do, you know?

Oh shit, oh, I had it. Oh, it's leaving. Oh, no had it. Oh, it's leaving. Oh, no wait. No, it's back Hey, man as somebody who played through p4 g's intro this morning and Has played persona five a couple of times. Let me tell you One of the best things about p3 reload and p3 fez and p3P is you are in Tartarus in 90 minutes. Three hours or so from just leisurely reading, moving around and not talking to everyone, but still moving at a medium pace. I talked to everyone and got in there in 90 minutes.

OK, so when I walk up to an NPC and I press the button, I read their line out loud, press the button, read the next one. Oh, out loud, oh no. And read the next one, and then when the line is closed, I continue. So every time some dialogue is popping up on screen, we voice it or we read it out loud. I mean, that'll do it.

And that's how I play through these games. That's my timer. Okay, yeah, you're talking about stream time? Yes. I'm talking about like Normal human time. Okay, so we as like stream time for p5 is not the four hours people say it is it's like eight So if no one if you happen if you're someone who's only listened to me here And you haven't tuned into any of the RPGs we do we always voice all the lines and it's a fun thing to do

It it adds a little bit of flavor to it that I think we enjoy. But it's also because people who do minimize and just listen along if they're like, in some cases, well, there's voice acting. There are people too. There's voice acting that'll cover the voice acted lines, but whenever it's just dialogue,

it helps whenever we do read what's going on. Yeah, I do that for infinite wealth, for example. Exactly, exactly. So we do it that way in particular on purpose, but it's gonna add to that time So from walking around and reading the lines But then choosing a couple of NPCs to talk to not all of them. It was about three and twenty or so 330 When you're at home faster than four and five now four at home just reading in your head is still like six four this morning

and it was I Was bouncing a baby and kissing on him until he fell asleep, but it was I was done at like 11 So it was like three and a half four. Oh, and I know for a fact that by the time you get like Control of five it is like four and a half to five hours. Yeah, they really man They draw it out because four has the the fake dungeon, which is the tutorial with Mona Where you don't actually get to do anything so it does like it does good things for establishing characters and

pace and tone. Like you do really get a nice on board ramp for your team in all these games with the slow intro. But yeah, for replaying purposes. Well, P3 introduces you to like half of the cast in like the first two or three scenes of the game. And the thing is too, as well as like, your only real divergence is like a couple of answers that are like, you can pick one, two or three on, but it's very minimal change.

So like, it would not be hard to just kind of blast past that and get into the meat of it, you know? I don't know about you. For replay purposes. But I've hit the moment. I've hit the moment in my life where I'm sitting and playing my persona game. And I'm like, all right, hey, uh, you know, morning. Okay. Good morning, Jim. Pay or who, or you car, whoever meets me at the school and that it goes to,

uh, that it goes to afternoon. And, uh, this motherfucker, this teacher brings up a fucking grid of spire of logarithmic spirals and goes, which of these is not algebraic? And I'm like, oh, it is. I am now too far away from fucking high school. Yeah, I don't know what the fuck you're talking about, man. One of the first questions comes up and it was one that the hint was given earlier in the dialogue and Reggie's like, pay attention.

The answer's right there. I'm like, oh yeah? Okay, all right. Cool. Let's move forward. The first one doesn't give you a hint about the thing. Meanwhile, like one question later, which one of these fucking things means this or that or you know, and then I literally never I took I did

all my high school maths advanced. And then when I went to university, I had to take two general education math courses to get my fucking degree. And I've never seen even one of the four spirals that were shown to me on that fucking screen. And I just go, I don't fucking know. I don't know. I love that the universal consensus is everybody's like just fucking cheat.

They're just cheat. There's nothing here for you. Well, cause it's really funny because the original version of this was like Just fucking know it or not dumb fuck right? But now with the the internet button that you hit the select button or the the touch. Oh, yeah There's actually internet. No, it'll tell you it'll okay. Okay. Okay, right? Okay, but here's the best part It was like is that cheating? Yeah, but like invariably those situations are Junpei going dude, I don't know what the answer tell me what the answer is

That's what he's doing to you right right, so why not you do it to the to the cloud The the example I always use is what does it mean in ancient Japan when someone says, wow, the moon sure is pretty tonight? You know, like that's just like, are you crazy? And what's funny is that like the game's original status as a game for only terminal weebs, meant that that was completely fine because terminal weebs would go,

I did mean to, I shit it, I love you. Ah, I'm a fucking piece of shit. But now it's like a wider fucking range of people that don't know that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like to explain to me, there's one like in four or five that was just like, it wasn't haiku's, it was a different type of Japanese poetry that I'd never heard of ever and they're like which one of these authors

Invented this right right right right yeah, yeah, yeah, I know and like And then Reggie ended up getting the I love you one based on me bringing it up in the past as an absurd example of what they fucking ask you So yeah, I know I keep forgetting, but yeah, having the little network button there also will just nullify this ridiculous mechanic. Just cheat. Just cheat. Yeah, no, but super, super fucking just it's a it's a fun nostalgia trip for sure. To just like go back to this and see everything in the smooth order. Doesn't seem like?

Tartarus was spiced up as much as I was hoping but Um, it's it seems fine. I'll see how I feel on floor 80 but you know, uh So those of you who are going through tartarus right now should know that there are Approximately 250 floors. It's not actually 250, it's the numbers a little off on that. But if you're like at floor 80 or 90 and going, oh man, I'm close. I'm getting close.

I'm working on making some progress here. Getting close to 100. You're fucking not. Yeah, yeah. No, that's the real spirit breaker is like, oh, well then it must be 200 then, right? And then, yeah, yeah. I remember cresting to 201 and being like,

you mother fuckers. Oh, mother fuckers. And then you're like, well, surely we must round this out at 250 or so then. I thought it was going to be 225 man Man, yeah, and then it's then you start to feel the diminishing return right so If I remember right like a massive chunk of that is like right at the end. They're like you have to get there Now I'm like, okay. I'm gonna do it and it's just

I I'm like, OK, I'm going to do it. And it's. I I my hope is is that more flavor texts will pepper the adventure like I mean, there's a little bit told that it gets spicier the higher you go. OK, because the other bit, of course, and this is a real thing that affects the pacing in P3 is P4 and 5 have the personalized castles and dungeons that you explore for each of the main targets. Whereas P4 kind of does. P4 exists in a weird, now it exists in a nebulous state. You go to a themed dungeon and then at the end of it, you have the shadow fight.

And then the sequence. Sure, but the P4 dungeons are just like tartarous chunks split up. Ultimately, ultimately. But I guess that is to say, the absence of that and the absence of the P5 very targeted plot stuff makes just for a Arkana based boss. And that's it, you know?

It's not like a thing that relates to the outside world that intricately. Yeah, it's actually really strange that Persona 4 is like the only one that has everything within one area, because P3 has Tartarus and then the Moon missions. And then P5 has Mementos and then the palaces. Mm-hmm, mm-hmm. No, if Tartarus integrated, I guess,

a bit more of the outside world, S-Links and stuff going on into Tartarus, that also would make it a little bit more of an incentive going through. So, I mean, again, it comes in later games and they get that part. So, yeah, anyway, just fucking super good. Super good.

Super good. I like it. You got your and and yeah, like even the ballless mass destruction remake. I'm like, I'm liking this. This is good. This is good. Yeah. So overall, the remixes and the new music are all fantastic,

but there are going to be tracks that are particular to you that you go, this is a good remix and I understand they wanted to make it different, but the drums aren't fucking loud enough on Master of Tartarus. They're like 15 decibels too quiet. Now, if I'm not mistaken, can't you pay 399 to replace it with the old one? I don't know. I'm gonna go click on it now.

I think there's a... I legitimately have no idea. Oh, I thought some of that DLC stuff was for music packs or so. Let's see what we actually let's see what we got Persona 5 BGM persona 4 BGM persona 5 Royal persona that sheets persona 5 Royal persona that sheets costume costume costume Digital soundtrack and digital art book. Okay. Hey listen sponsored or not We got to talk about that fucking that OST that you can buy on Steam. So you can't I didn't get sponsored to tell you to buy that

OST and I'm going to sit here and tell you do not buy the OST off of steam. That is an exe file that loads up a custom version of the Unreal Engine that plays the music, but if you alt-tab out of it, the music stops. Why? Why? Why not just a folder of MP3s and FLAC files? Why is this so hard? Because their streaming regulations were fair, which means they had to be dinosaur somewhere

else. Somewhere else. Christ almighty, it's so simple. Oh, which means they had to be dinosaur somewhere else somewhere else Christ almighty, it's so simple I must must dinosaur I Got the dick because I never used steam as an audio player at all for anything I just you know sometimes I'd get packs that included soundtracks but I never really went to look at it and When I was doing the disco the the sacred and terrible air read through I was like oh yeah let me go take a look and then like I'm just like oh yeah

there it is oh ST on the steam list open folder it's a list of mp3s and flakfot like that's it like great that's all I wanted this to be I think one of the strangest moments I had during this sponsorship process because I made a video and I don't usually make videos but I was like yeah I'll make one that's cool and I asked the sponsorship lady. I was talking to hey Can you ask Atlas or Sega to give me some b-roll for the games music? So I can use it as a backing track for the background of my video and they went I'm on it and then they sent me a Google Drive folder that had art for the game and

They were like this is what this is what you got. I'm like, okay So then I had to find people who got copies early and ripped the soundtrack illegally and ripped it from them without permission so that I could use it in my ads for Sega Well Because because one of their streaming guidelines was do not upload the isolated tracks on their own because Do not do not take any of that and put it up as just a video of this Can't be trusted, won't be trusted. You gave me the gift!

Wings! I could have done all sorts of stupid shit with it! I signed a contract! When dinosaurs ruled the earth, the banner drops Good stuff. You can stream it. You sure can. You sure can. Just make sure. This gives me a lot of hope for like metaphor. Yeah, and streaming metaphor. Well, the thing of the idea is like, um, um, Mark spoilers, I think is what it said whenever there's something. Which is like, yeah, once you hit, uh, fucking June, July, just put a, just put the word spoilers

in brackets. In SMT five, there's an exact point, which is like, when you talk to this person, everything beyond here is end game divergence. Oh man, that's the funniest thing in the world. Because you'll get, but y'all folks at home don't know this nightmare, which is like, you're dealing with a publisher that's like crazy about spoilers, and so,

a fucking, who was it? It was Activision. You remember the fucking review guide for fucking sicker oh Yeah, it was like absolutely Do not talk about and then it was like the whole guide for how to get all the endings with screenshots and so you're like reading through the mandatory review guide and you're like oh mandatory review guy and you're just like oh Getting spoiler Bob did that guy fucking nuts

Oh my god, yeah, or if you go this route there's this possibility even did the fuck yeah I Remember cuz I got that and then I sent the you I'd say hey email Sorry, hey, will the email this guy and you're like cool And then you did that and we both like got the review guide on the same day We're just oh boy. I can't even read this. Why it's bad enough when the fucking you know PlayStation menus and share menus will fucking spoil you on day one Anyway Menus will fucking spoil you on day one Anyway Yes, oh god like Atlas did it themselves like a while ago with a golden and Royale where they said they put out the streaming guidelines was like do not show anything past and it was like a specific date

You're like, oh, I guess when I'm playing the game that specific date will be You're like, oh, I guess when I'm playing the game that specific date will be a big deal Well, is it also is it the date when the new content starts because that's the day for the new content? That's the whole point and that's what fucking hell. Yeah, all right Anyways anyways anyways Yeah, so that was that was p3 It's good anything else I Played like a tiny amount of infinite wealth Yeah, so that was that was P3. It's good Anything else? I played like a tiny amount of infinite wealth

Infinite wealth is Gargantuan in scope to a very intimidating degree So like every night that I stream it I point at a feature and go this is the last time this feature will ever show up on stream. Okay. I see. I see. I see. Like every single night. Here's the mechanic. Here's what you can do. Okay. Let's fuck around with it for 45 minutes, half hour, and then it's gone. I'm gonna do that in the mornings when I'm waking the baby up because I'm gonna do that in the mornings when I'm waking the baby up. Because like, also the Sujiman stuff, which is Yakuza's Pokemon thing,

is so funny to play after Pow World. Mm-hmm. Because everyone was like, oh man, Pow World's such a ripoff. But Pow World's not actually anything like Pokemon, it just looks like it. Meanwhile, like Ichiban is fucking standing with a professor tree that his name is

Kurokawa, which means like Black Forest. And he's like, did Ichiban, you have to become the very best like no one ever was. And then like knock off Pokemon music starts going off in the background and you have to choose your fucking starter and go fight the discrete for. And and you have to start doing like Pokemon go raids on the street and going, I choose you to the Suji Mon on the street. And I'm like this is Way more of a fucking ripoff than than power will never was but it's shoved way inside the pie

It's way. It is no. It's it. It's mandatory. Oh Really it it so I had a really funny time where I went I finished up a night of streaming and I went back and me and Paige were having din-dins and we're petting the baby. And she's like, hey, Pat, infinite, like you got like FF7 and you got like Dragon's Dogma coming up.

You got to be careful about how much of the side quest stuff you do in infinite wealth. Cause like I was watching, you know, I had it on and like, you know, you were doing all that Sujiman stuff and like you got to make sure you, you know you don't just burn out on side stuff. And I'm like, honey, that was all mandatory. I didn't do a single side quest that whole night.

Man. And she just like looked at me with like eyes wide. Just like, what? That was, that what you couldn't, like, yeah, no, that was mandatory. Absolutely required. Jesus Christ. That's fucking insane.

Okay. Also, Sujiman fucking rules. It's a really good Pokemon knockoff. It's really good. It's happening in parallel to your adventures, right? Like that's right. Challenging people and eventually I will unlock a Sujiman job, which will which will integrate the two systems.

Mm hmm. Okay. Are you I mean, I'm assuming like with previous games, you can like Still push forward in plot and stop at your leisure a while then scraping all the extra shit Yes, I have however been warned that there is a chapter in which the game will split and Start ping-ponging between the two locations. Okay. And the chapter that you are in one of the locations, you are there in that location.

You're not freely traveling, probably until the end, which is how in a lot of the games they've done that for Osaka and Tokyo. Right, yeah, yeah, yeah. Or Okinawa and Tokyo. I hit that point at zero, yeah, okay. Yeah. There's so much. There's so much

There's so much I like they unlock I went and talked to a guy and he's like hey Do you want to look at cool things in Hawaii? Here's here's 400 photos of cool things we hid in the game Whoa, so when you're running down the street and you see a little photo icon walk up to it and take a photo of like a cool Store or a landmark or whatever the fuck. I'm like, I don't, I don't want that's okay. Oh, it's just for you to take an in-game photo of the thing. Yeah.

And then, and then if you, you, if you take out every photo in little Japan, you'll get a big reward. Okay. And so on and so forth. So it's, I think it's really funny that when I say something like that, people correct it to be like, Pat, there's only 110, there's not 400. I'm like, there might as well be 4,000

with how many of them I'm going to complete. Yeah, photo-taking can be fun. You know, Pokemon Snap is cool. That's in the game. Yeah, okay. It's called Sicko Snap. Because you're in America, there's a bunch of weird ass sickos on the street all over the place. Absolutely.

So you need to get into the trolley, which is on a set path, like on a rail, and take photos of the sickos as they hide in the bushes or hang off the buildings. People watching. Oh, that's great. That's what is wild. Yeah. Just just a good old trolley through the poverty tourism. The game's incredible. I met Danny Trejo's character, who is a

tough, scary-looking Mexican guy running the cartel who attacks you with... A machete. Oh my god. No, he attacks you with a machete. Oh my god. No, he attacks you with two machetes. Oh my god. Yeah. It's just like, well, this was a very, very obvious choice for this character. I mean, it's like a dragon. Yeah. Cause the game like he might as well have like, they might as well be like coming off his feet bayonetta style or Yeah, you know strapped to him like a fucking cyther, you know on his arm like excellent excellent use of Danny Trejo

He does he does great. He does everything. It's just great. It's just great wonderful and I does everything. It's just great. It's just great. Wonderful. And I also happen to know that I got swore a little bit, but it's cute because eventually the party will split up. But you know how itchy has the dementia, which causes him to see Dragon Quest nonsense. So the explanation for that was that Kiryu has caught Ichiban's dementia after hanging out with him for a while. Oh God. And now he has to do RPG battle. Which means it's like canonically contagious. It's contagious. It's Fox Dye. It's a lot of fun. It's a lot of fun. It's a lot of fun. It's a lot of fun. It's a lot of fun.

It's a lot of fun. It's a lot of fun. It's a lot of fun. It's a lot of fun. It's a lot of fun. It's a lot of fun. It's a lot of fun. It's a lot of fun.

It's a lot of fun. It's a lot of fun. It's a lot of fun. It's a lot of fun. It's a lot of fun. It's a lot of fun. It's a lot of fun. It's a lot of fun.

It's a lot of fun. It's a lot of fun. It's a lot of fun. It's a lot of fun. It's a lot of fun. It's a lot of fun. It's a lot of fun. Because like the joke about a persona for adults, it's persona with adults. It's not persona for adults, it's persona with adults. Like there are social links in that game, but they're called drink links. Because you're adults, so you'll have them at the bar. Go have a drink, exactly.

Is there anything rivaling the bread moment? Any moments of like obscene just you know, I feel like I haven't oh You know what? It's not the same. It's not the same Because it's not a massive technical feet, but there's an early cutscene in Which you and Namba and Adachi are just chilling in what is essentially McDonald's and in between a single line read and another one,

Namba picks up his drink and shakes the ice around and does this before drinking it. And I was just like, who the fuck bothers to animate somebody fucking shaking the ice around in their fountain soda nice nice nice People who reuse the same environment over and over and over and save all that money You got it. You got to flex every now and then just to let him know that you can do it It's important. Yeah, it's it's it's stellar What else I fucking do this week. Oh, yeah late last night. We managed to put the baby down early

So the wife and I watched one of her old favorites the oh my god. I don't know this lady's name Marty I want to say Marty Madison, but because of Maddie Madison the chef But it's a Are we dead? Oh in the chef. But it's a. Are we dead? Oh, put the baby down. Put the baby to sleep early, you idiot. Not like out. They're not a dog.

Yeah, I legitimately thought the stream died. I thought the stream died. Yeah. All right. Anyway, no, it's like nine o'clock and they're like, oh, and they fed and you rock them. And you're like, oh, they're actually asleep. And then you place them down in their little bassinet and you're like. And then you fucking sneak out like the wind. And then you're like, hey, hey, look at that.

Down early tonight. Um, but regardless, we watched the 1960 Peter Pan musical with Mary Martin. Oh my God, this is a this is OK. So this. This sounds three guesses as to who suggests. Yeah, this is a this is okay, so this This sounds three guesses as to who suggests yeah, this is just I want to rip you into my childhood and make you experience it That's just that's exactly that's not even like I don't know that there's a cultural Pull you can grab here. I don't even know what you're describing that sounds like a very specific

I experienced this I want here just Answer is into my memories my mom and I used to watch it every year because every year would come on TV There you go. We would sing all the songs. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah a hundred percent. Okay. Yeah So I've never seen Peter Pan the musical. I've only seen the original original. Oh my God, when I ask how I've seen the Disney version, right? And I guess the Kingdom Hearts version, if that counts, I've not seen the musical and Paige was very, very insistent that it was important that we watched the Mary Martin

version because Mary Martin is the best Peter Pan that ever was. And so am I okay? That seems totally fair. And this is wildly specific. That's how theater, that's how theater is because you know, different productions have different casts, right? And it's like, which version do you want? You want the version that has the actor that is good

or the actor that is not? And so she suggests this. You wanna watch Peter Pan the musical and it's like 930, right? And I'm like, do we have time? She's like, yeah, we got time. The baby just went down. He's good for a couple of hours.

I'm like, do we have like five hours to watch a musical? And then we hit that stop point where I didn't realize I had said something stupid, but she did. And I was starting to realize that I had said something stupid. And then we just stared at each other. And I was like, I don't know how long plays are.

Okay, okay, right, right, right, okay. I get what you're thinking because you're thinking. I'm thinking of five act play. And you're thinking of going out and sitting. That's four, that's four, five. You're thinking of going out and sitting in your seat with the pamphlet and you're watching and then there's an intermission and you go

and you come back and you sit down and the next act, and you're thinking of an evening at the theater. And I'm also, and this is, you know, I'm now real, I'm sitting here and I'm like, why did I think each act was an hour? And I was like, oh, because a period in hockey is an hour. Right, right, right. So an act in a play would be an hour.

Then it just kind of turns into, yeah, no. So if there's five acts, it would be an hour. So it would act in a play would be an hour. So then it just kind of turns into, yeah, no. So if there's five acts, it would be five hours. It's not five hours. No, no, no. It's an hour and 40 minutes. Sometimes you get two or three, you know, that's not impossible. But period's 20 minutes. Sure.

Anyway... People play hockey for four hours, for three hours even. It's... But... But what? Wait, people are, wait, people are spending thousands and thousands of dollars to buy scalped hockey tickets to go sit there for like what, 90 minutes tops in shitty seats? So even though you're there, even though it's an hour, there's always like every sports thing is an entire night or evening affair because the does the track the traffic in they getting to the seat Every all the bullshit before the game starts the starting of the game the ending of the game in the way out the traffic back

It's your whole afternoon gone but actual play is Pretty quick and pretty much. I'm like I'm like I'm like disassociating. I'm just I'm leaving my fucking I'm like, I'm like, I'm like disassociating. I'm just, I'm leaving my fucking corporeal body right now. Yeah, you know, you know. This is way dumber than me just thinking that about plays. You call, that is. I mean, you call, you call time out and in between plays

the clocks will stop on, on the sports. Oh my God, oh my God, woolly, woolly. I just had like a part of my brain just like, you know, you know, like when, when two parts of a puzzle are like touching But they haven't like kachunked into place It just slid into place or like two or three weeks ago when I was like well if I'm not good at something And I see somebody else good at something. I assume they could just do it forever with no mistakes Somebody in the chat asked me Pat who the fuck could play soccer or hockey for four hours I'm like I don't know a fit person I don't know what that feels like I assume if you were

physically fit you could just play hockey for four five hours what can you not I can't okay well yeah 45 minutes and then 45 minutes and then you run the Anyway, they should have hockey games where you have to play for five hours. Uh-huh, and what would be awesome What else should they have? Yep, they um, yeah Okay I still think baseball extra innings is the most fun sport can. I was trying to give you the out by saying that you were thinking about the theater as an evening at the theater. Oh no, no, it was much dumber than that. And you had to-

I tried. I tried. I tried. I couldn't- Much dumber. Well. Um, all right. So, back to Peter Pan.

Back to that. So the first thing is that this is from the 60s, so it's old as hell, and it's like a corny, old musical, because it's played super straight and super sincere. No irony, no meta-ness, just happy-go-lucky songs about never growing up, blah, blah, blah. But if you go watch the Mary Martin version of Peter Pan, there's something that you can't avoid. And that is

the overwhelming, violent, cognitive dissonance, not that Peter Pan is played by a lady, but by Peter Pan being played by an old lady, like a woman who is visibly in her 60s. And it's fucking it's fucking crazy it's it's so fucking weird it's grandma got up in the tights and is dancing around about how she'll never grow up and I'm like ma'am I'm astonished that you can do even one of these little jumps. Well is the camera farther back and are they? No, no, it is not Because if you avoid close-ups and then the end they're in costume then it's like yeah, you're supposed to just right up in there Wow I'm right in there

Okay It's so weird it also occurs to me that like I never as a kid was sat down to show I was never shown like Peter Pan straight directly I just had the I had like the the action book that was like, you know Various pages of what would happen in it and then a hook was what I watched So I knew Peter Pan in that form and hook and that was pretty much it I but like they never actually when they grab Disney movies for us to watch and never actually want to grab that one specifically like maybe it's just me But like hook is the star of the musical because he's silly as fuck

Like Disney hook is more like Peter. I'll shoot you with a gun. I'll stab you with a sword Hook in the musical is we're going to bake a poison cake and leave it near the tree that lost boys live in and hopefully they eat the cake Like like fucking level of villainy. Okay, okay and Watching the musical version really like brought us my mind. Oh Peter Pan is like a fucking piece of shit Who steals children for goofs? But like Peter Pan fucking sucks, man. But the kids wanna go on the adventures, no?

No, they all wanna leave! Like the ending of that musical is every single lost boy being like, can we have a family? Please? Can we leave and be adopted, please? And Peter's like fine, I I guess I'm not going though. And do they lose their powers? Yeah, no, they lose the ability to fly because they grow up.

Well, there you go. And then, and then, so like, it's like, it's like in a modern context, like this is actually a lot like persona three reload. In a modern context, like this is actually a lot like Persona 3 reload in a modern Something about Peter Pan comes off really sinister because okay, so Wendy and And John and Michael that's their names Wendy and I definitely went there, but I couldn't tell you the others Yeah, the other two they're like they have like five lines whatever so they the kids they show up and the Peter Pan's like

I'm a fucking magical guy come with me and live forever, and you'll be in Wendy you'll be our mom and So she goes down there, and she's like hey kids. Do you want a real family, and they're like yeah And then she's like okay come on Peter Let's I gotta leave and he's all pissed off about it, and he's like I'll visit you don't worry about it, okay? So then like 25 fucking years go by And he visits Wendy and she's like an adult and I know this I know that she's not old Because the line is I'm so much more than 20 years old So she's like 25 or 26 and the actress

is clearly like a young woman. Okay. And she's like, I can't, I can't be with you. I'm so old now. So he goes to fucking Wendy's daughter. It was, hey girl, do you wanna leave with me and go on an adventure? And she's like, oh yeah I do!

And it's like what the fuck is going on? Ahhhhhhh. Ahhhhhhh. Ahhhhhhh. Mmmhmm. Mmmhmm. Yeah. And then the part that killed me was like Wendy comes out and she's like no

so She comes out and goes no and what I think she's gonna say is Don't take my Jane away, but instead she goes take me She goes, take me though! Take me! Leave her! And I'm sitting there and I started like losing my shit. And I was like, I think like, Woolies like great grandpa got like fucking killed over this.

Okay, very... Like I remember you telling me a story. Do you have a family member be murdered over this situation? There was a questionable There was a questionable cause of death that may or may not have occurred due to very similar circumstances This is correct Very important question though. Yeah Was this context revelation?

Was this context revelation something that Paige was aware of in the rewatch? Oh yeah, she's a massive musical theater nerd. She's just... No, but what I mean is, is the looking at it with fresh eyes, we see fresh things. And I don't... Sometimes the nostalgia might make you go, oh no, it's just Peter and... No, no, no, no, no, no. Okay, okay. No, first of all, Paige is like a genuine musical theater expert.

And second, she like, as we're watching this, she's like, I got a friend of mine that is like her favorite thing in the world is Peter Pan, so she would be like obsessed with this shit and talk about it all the time. So like, fully in there, and then she starts explaining starts explaining like you know there's a bunch of modern interpretations of the play that are mostly the same except Peter's just portrayed as a villain. Okay, so you were not ruining Peter Pan in the process. Okay, got it, got it.

But as I'm watching it, I have like knowledge synthesis occurring in my brain and I'm like I I have like, um, knowledge synthesis occurring in my brain. And I'm like, I'm watching like, okay, what is Peter Pan actually about? Peter Pan is a fairy, like a, like a fey who steals children. Right. Like, and his fucking, his fucking, his primary nemesis is an adult man who has iron grafted to his body, which is the fairy killing metal Like like like like Celtic shelter fairies like iron and fucking kills fairies

How's tinkerbell in this oh, she's a fucking flashlight. Oh, okay. All right. It's a flashlight on the wall. Great. And then around the middle part of the movie, she fucking kills herself. Because Peter's, so hook poisons Peter's milk when Peter's not looking. And he's like, I've got to drink that milk cuz Wendy told me to and Tinkerbell is like there is poison in there you idiot He's like I'm gonna drink it and so

Tinkerbell drinks the entire thing of poison milk and fucking dies and Peter's like I can't believe oh no Christ what the fuck and then like looks directly at the camera and goes did you know that if you believe in fairies? It'll make her stronger and like starts like demanding that you clap and then your wife who's sitting next to you Tells you to clap mother fucker You are going to clap and so you do little claps. And then Tanker Bell comes back to life.

Audience participation. Okay, okay, gotcha. Yeah. How about the fact, how about the part where the concept of Neverland is ruined? Yeah. And how about the fact that in second place of the ruins Neverland is fucking

enter Sandman? And then I suppose third place comes Peter Pan's direct reference usage of it. Anyway. Oh, shit is weird, man. Anyway Shit is weird man Also of special note particularly if you watch this it's in the 1960s made by British people so there is a

Baffling amount of the play devoted to the dancing and hooting and hollering of the native tribe of Indians who live in Neverland. Okay. Whose leader is the only blonde white woman in the entire production. Oh, yeah. Good stuff. Good stuff going back in time. And you know what, man?

They fucking go for it. They fucking go for it. The costumes, the, the costumes the the whole thing all of it running the hooting good stuff Go waiting for us in the past man. We should go back. Yeah, it's love that big fan of the past That's that's crazy Like I saw someone said like oh this is like, oh, this is like, reboot dusting, this is like, wooly dusting off the reboot VHS tapes. I'm like, no, because that's something that people

like kind of know and there's a, we have peers and there's an understanding of like, oh, have you seen this thing? It's like people would recognize that. It would be, this is like me grabbing the gospel tapes of the African children's choir that my mom used to make us listen to in the car Oh, yeah, and playing that and being like no you got to listen to this specific thing that I had I listened to as a kid Like that's wildly precise Hey, man, okay gotta be the right version. Okay. It's gotta be the right actors. Well

Watching old shit is weird, but it is cool um You finally of note So, you know Nana the the dog that the nurse made for the kids that Is supposed to take care of them and save them from Peter Pan? No, so Nana is a Newfoundland Right, so a Newfoundland, right? So a Newfoundland dog, for people who don't know, is a gigantic fucking fluffy black and

white dog. Okay. And the play requires Nana to be part of the fucking show. Production. and show because you know and it is played by a man in a nightmare ish oversized for suit sick. And it looks like a nightmare. And it sounds like a nightmare. And it's it's it's hellish and ghoulish. And it's so awful. And it's so awful

Is this look like a furry suit it is a full-body 1960s first suit walking around on all fours pretending to be a dog You could hold on yeah, I'm not looking I'm looking oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, there it is okay It's giant fucking awful its head is the size of the children Yeah, okay Not good don't like it terrifying absolutely terrifying Great well hey you did it and and I'm sure as you're watching it you're you've you've converted into podcast bits. So there you go. Well done. That's how you My wife is so fucking devious

Because she'll be like hey, do you want to watch this and before I can even say words. she goes you could talk about Exactly Yeah, no, I've heard that one before oh you're gonna talk about this on the podcast actually I don't think I will How about that? Oh God yeah, yeah fucking content brained How about that? Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha slash Pat stairs at on Twitch. Okay. Um, yeah, I'll talk about my show when I get back. Alright, B.A.B. Oh, hey. Alright, not that one. But not that one either.

Oh, that's my favorite. That's my big favorite right there. Oh, that one's fantastic. Split. So we got all that shit out of the way, right? We talked about persona. We talked about a little bit about like a dragon. We talk a little bit about Peter Pan from the 60s. But Wally, did you know that a new Silent Hill game came out this week?

Oh, oh, oh, oh, I see. Did you did you receive a short message? Well, I feel, I feel like legitimately cursed because I feel like, I mean, Susie knows what she's talking about and I know what I'm talking about. And I'm sure there's like five or other people that know what they're talking about with Silent Hill or whatever. But like, in terms of long suffering Silent Hill fan that's gone through all of them.

I know one else. I know one other person. So when this happens, it's like, well, I have to, I like, you know, that moment you hit where I'm not going to hate watch things anymore. I'm not going to hate watch anymore. I'm not gonna hate watch things. I'm an adult I Don't need to watch something just talk about how shit it is and then you pass that and then you're like Oh, but it's my responsibility to the community bitch. David Cage is releasing a new game. You're not gonna play it Fuck out of here. I fucking you to. It's an obligation. It is

duty. It is an obligation. Absolutely. So, um, yeah. Before we even get into Silent Hill, the message, I would like to point a finger at the PlayStation store for paying the most unreliable piece of shit ever for 4500 years in a row because every single time they go It's out now. It's not out now and In fact when you will be able to get to the thing that is out now on the PlayStation Store What it actually means is you're gonna have to search for its title in the search algorithm as it endlessly crashes on you until you can find the item you want via search, but not through the updated store and then download it and hope it doesn't fail.

Okay. Terrible. Wow. Every time. Awful. So, yeah. I mean, and this is gonna segue certainly. Well, actually, we'll talk about the PlayStation announcements later. But Silent Hill, there's...

So it's interesting because the idea of there's a new Silent Hill game that's coming out and, like, I think I saw there was like an interview where they're describing that like, this is supposed to be for a new generation and it's like people have their phones on them now and there needs to be a way to like bring that horror to a modern generation. It's like, I just kind of wonder like, I don't know if this is a team that's, what is it, who is it that's making this? It's Konami.

It's directly internal? Okay. Yes, it's internal Konami. Yeah, so you're kind of like, does it, if it's about tech and phones in that way, does it have to be Silent Hill even? Is there a reason for that? That it is apparent? Or is it just something that happens to stick that name on it?

Well you see, Woolly, two things. One is that Konami owns the name Silent Hill. And two, despite taking place in what I think is Germany, but I'm not sure, I'm genuinely not sure what country the game takes place in. I missed it playing through it, but I was informed that there was a newspaper article that I had missed playing through the game, describing the quote, silent hill phenomenon end quote, in which missed will suddenly appear in random places in the world.

Locations elsewhere, yeah. And cause cursed magic to appear. Oh, we expansion team, baby. Let's go, we can take, baby. Let's go. We can take it anywhere. Take the show on the road. Now Sawhill has escaped the boundaries of the city. It does not about the city anywhere.

It can be anywhere. Oh, hell yeah. Absolutely. Hexadrive is a name I have not heard since the Zoey 2 remasters. Zoey 2 and Okami and Razz, all the HD remasters really. Winwaker. Yeah.

So, first of all, right off the bat, this game's like tone, perspective and general premise is like insane considering they canceled and killed PT. This is a first-person free short demo game for Silent Hill. Well we're doing it on our terms Pat. The twitchy monster is running at you through repeating hallway. It has the repeating hallways from PT. Like. But on our terms, we're doing it our way without him. And second of all, when I see the phrase, the Silent Hill phenomenon and that Silent Hill

can escape from Silent Hill, it goes, oh, that's what Silent Hills was going to be about. Oh, you think so? You think that was the idea of like it? I do. Uh-huh. Because it's already been a thing. Plural.

In four, the town actually reaches out past the edge of the town to a local town. That's past Brahms. For franchise purposes, like it's obviously something you want to be able to say like I can create my own Silent Hill game anywhere yeah but like think about it like in one and two it's contained yeah and then three it reaches out to the mall and then four it's like multiple towns over is it in Silent Hills which you could have also written as Silent Hill 5?

Well anyway, yeah, but I guess the idea of like it being like not connected at all like creep But just straight up like it's popping up in Japan is so and way to franchise There is a You know I'm gonna talk about the gameplay first. Let's start there. Let's start there. Um, it is a primary walking sim that you go around seeing spooky stuff, exploring an environment. Um, you'll hit like cutscenes where, uh, moody things or music will play.

Um, you'll read notes. you'll hear people talking to you, your character will occasionally pull out their cell phone and text ghosts and that kind of thing. There's very, very light puzzle solving. I think there's only one real puzzle in the whole game where you have to get a combination lock. And- Wait, was this a demo or the full game?

This is a full game. Oh, okay, it Oh, oh, okay. It was okay. Okay This is a really important note is that this is a two-ish our game That is for free on the PlayStation So like criticism has to be done within that context because I mean it's fucking free I didn't pay for it, but it is a game play for is a boarder pay for it either but it is a full product it is not the whole start by the start and beginning then okay and the the primary

like gameplay aside from exploration and stuff like that is that a monster will chase you in first person and it kind of works like shattered memories chase sequences okay where the monster is gonna start kind of where you need to go. So you got to kind of loop them around. Yeah. To like to chase you to get to where you need to go. With hiding spots and branches. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. From a gameplay perspective, it has two problems. One is that the turning radius is terrible, which is really bad when you're trying to escape from something in first person. So like your turning speed is really slow. So you will be running and go to turn down a hallway

and like hit your face on the wall because you just can't turn fast enough. Deliberately so, I assume, because you're meant to be incapacitated. The second one is that the final chase sequence is insanely difficult for no reason. So all of the chase sequences up until that point are escape or get through a door. You get to the final chase sequence and it is an enormous chase area in which you have to run around and grab like five key items to unlock a door. Um, as the monster is chasing you the entire time. And if you die or get caught at any point, you have to do the whole thing over. It doesn't save any progress.

or get caught at any point, you have to do the whole thing over. It doesn't save any progress. It is, it is. It is a very fast version of Slenderman. OK, collecting the notes terrible. OK, it's it's awful. What can you do besides run and collect the notes? Pray. to God. Okay.

It's really, really hard. And the monster does have rules and you can juke it and you kind of have to. But like the area is difficult to navigate, it's confusing, you don't have a list of which items you actually got when you're running around. It's the whole environment looks the same. Oh, it's rough.

Like that last gameplay sequence is rough. So I'm going to go with mediocre on the video game side. It's not the worst, but it's rough. But you're just walking around, and that's the only thing you do. Walking, reading, running. Yeah, okay. You hold up your phone.

Yeah. Then comes the setting and the story and all that. It's a... Okay, it is Steve Buscemi with two skateboards and a music band shirt Asse saying how do you do fellow kids, cross Bernie Sanders saying all kids know how to do, so all women know how to do is eat hot chip and charge

they phone and lie. Correct. Okay, it is those two wow that's actually way more yeah than I thought it was okay I started the American people are tired of women yeah yeah yeah yeah yes no I'm I'm I know I'm serious yeah yeah got it yeah okay yeah um and be bisexual yeah no these are oh wow did them that just that just lines up with the whole game, like point to point to point.

That's weird. So, we follow our main character Anita, who is at the local suicide building, where kids go to commit suicide. And she is depressed because her friend Maya committed suicide and she's very sad about her friend Maya committing suicide. And she becomes trapped in this building

and goes through a series of suicide loops and you constantly get flashbacks to Maya. And the whole time, the game is like a masturbatory jerk off session to the idea of suicidal ideation. Like you have characters, so when you get flashbacks, it cuts to like live action of actors in like a studio. Oh, really? Okay. And they look right at the camera and go,

man, it would be so cool if I committed suicide. Oh, man, it would be so fucking cool if I committed suicide. Now you might think, Pat, that sounds like the kind of thing that you exaggerate that sounds ridiculous. It sounds like one of those things that would paraphrase to be absurd. It certainly does. However, I mean this without a shadow. I will tone it down to what it actually is.

Cherry blossoms, even when cherry blossoms die, they're still beautiful, even in death. I wanna do art about the sadness that girls feel and show the cherry blossom blooming out of them, scars and all, and everything has to be beautiful. And if you want to be beautiful forever, you should die. You should die in a beautiful way. Wouldn't that be beautiful if you just died in a beautiful way and it was so artistic and

gorgeous? And then you find a note that's like, did you know that there was a practice in Japan called Herakiri called honorable suicide in which it would add a sys, a element of societal retribution for societal ills and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And it's like, the girl is looking at you in the eyes and saying, boy, suicide is so cool. And as you can probably tell, the theme of the game is don't commit suicide. Oh, okay, well, what would hope?

You can tell that it's the theme of the game because when you press start, it says, hey, if you feel like committing suicide, you should reach out to somebody for help. Here's the suicide hotline and some suicide websites that you can go to if you feel like committing suicide. Okay, that's great. That's great. Yeah. So there's a couple different ways you can handle

that subject matter. And I guess on one end of the slider would be, let's say, Bojack Horseman, the view from halfway down. And then on the other end would be, I's say, Bojack Horseman, the view from halfway down. And then on the other end would be, I guess, say 13 reasons why. Right. Where are we landing? I don't know how to put it on that scale. Okay. I can't be accurate.

What I can tell you, so I'm not gonna go through the whole plot, I don't want to spoil it. Okay. It's interesting It's one of the only games that I can think of It's actually so it's not made by the people who made medium the medium was made by a blooper team The spot that's that's what I was yes Sorry, that's what I was gonna, I was actually waiting, I was gonna say, hold on a minute. I thought the Bloober team Silent Hill 2 remake

was where we should- Completely different people. I thought the Bloober team was the concern we were having because the medium- No, it's everybody now. And the message in the medium was all about, hey, how rad it would be to totally Sudoku. But this is not at all-

The message in the medium is that if you're too traumatized, you to totally Sudoku. But this is not at all. The message in the medium is that if you're too traumatized, you have to Sudoku. You should, you should actually. Right, right, right, right. So I was thinking about that in the context of the Blooper team game, which is the remake of SH2. This is a completely different thing.

That's okay, all right, got it, it's everywhere. So it's one of the only games I can think of in which like the plot is wrong like its own plot is incorrect because Like it starts with like an internal thought that's supposed to like It starts with like an internal thought that's supposed to like, like lock you into the character's perspective.

And it's, it's you start with the like, first suicide hotline information, right? And then the second thing is like a quote from the main character who goes, this is a paraphrase, I don't have the exact wording, but it's like, the strongest creatures don't need anything to survive. Their strength is in their loneliness. And it's like that's not true? That's never been true for anything ever. And so like the games like you're supposed to be going through her story and like arguing with that statement,

but like it's just wrong. And then you get to the end in which she like changes that like she inverts the statement a little bit. And it's still wrong. Like even the new enlightened version is still wrong. Two and a half hours is not a whole lot of time, but depending on what you do with it, it could be you can effectively deliver a message. I, well, anyway, I assume that again from top to bottom here, there is a completed narrative.

There is a completed narrative and it is a mess. It is a mess. It is so like a bit. So when I say like, how do you do fellow kids? Like I watched an interview with one of the people making it and it's it's basically Team of older people people are age or a little older making a game about how they are sorry to the youth for ruining the economy And they're sorry about Ruining the planet and all that shit. Okay, and so the kids are dealing with the angst of growing up in like a blighted economic sector and

stuff like that. But it's so ungenuine and weird and fake. And it really stands out because there's a part of the game. There's like three main acts. The third act has nothing to do with the rest of the plot. The third act is we're going to go into some childhood nightmare shit. That's very classic Silent Hill, and it's got a really cool perspective trick where you're moving through a flashback and every time you walk through a door,

the camera moves lower, so your character is getting younger as you're going through the sequence. Right, okay. And it's really good. Okay, okay. And it ends, and then goes back to a bunch of teenage girls

telling each other that they should commit suicide or not commit suicide, but suicide's so cool. Um, I'm trying to think of a singular example that would really sum up how tone deaf and weird the game is. And I think I can. So Maya is a graffiti artist and her graffiti features a lot of cherry blossoms, which is why the monster is a cherry blossom monster, right? And she's a talented artist. She's in high school and she's up and coming, right? And she's art obsessed and you know, if I died, maybe my art would be bigger profile, blah, blah, blah kind of thing, right? And there's a part where the main character is like sad about Maya's death, but then opens up her phone and goes to Twitter more followers than me.

And then scrolls down to her Twitter account where you're hearing people go, where are you gonna post pics, sexy pics? You got a sexier than that. And it's just her going like, like a weird smile. And being like, didn't even get any likes on it. And the funniest thing is she did get likes on it, but not as many as Maya would have gotten.

Okay. And it's like, this sucks. But that sucks and that's super fucked up, but that can be a, that can be a massive character flaw if it is used as such, right? Something like having that kind of fucked up thought in that type of situation can be a massive character flaw if it is used as such, right? Something like having that kind of fucked up thought in that type of situation can be the type of thing that you can use to establish how fucked your character is.

Right? So is it used to that end? I'm trying to grab the bits and pieces without totally, because there's a twist. Yeah, yeah, yeah, okay, okay, okay, gotcha. And the, okay, hey, woolly. Because I can tell as well that, just from the way you're talking about it,

it's like when a game decides to tackle like this type of subject matter, it's asking you to engage with it sincerely to some degree, right? All right. And you also, and if it's going to use live action bits, then that's a bit of a weirder way to go, but depending on how you handle it, I guess, it might land, but you don't want it to feel as if you're like,

hey, we're tackling something very serious, therefore, whatever we're doing is almost immune from criticism. So it's going to be, you know, you don't want that vibe to get across, you know. So I have to, okay, Willie, do I have your permission to talk about the core narrative of this? And we'll go on and say, hey, skip from such to such. Yeah, absolutely. Go for it. And if anybody wants to not get spoiled on, on, so the short message that by all means skip ahead. The game. OK, here's a basic summary of events.

Anita goes to abandoned building, which people love to commit suicide there, really depressed. Her friend, Maya killed herself, right? Maya, up and coming artist, loved Cherry Blossoms, was, we have lots of flashbacks of Maya talking about how cool it would be to kill herself, how artistic it would be to kill herself, how much her art would matter after she killed herself.

Her art is of people ascending into heaven based off Cherry Blossoms, which grow out of your scars, which is like a trauma metaphor, et cetera. Non-stop ideation. Right. Yeah. Every single cutscene is, oh man, it'd be so cool if I killed myself. Every single one. Right.

OK. And we start with the suicide hotline stuff, and we start with a main character that literally says, I don't need to reach out to nobody. Reaching out is for pussies, right? So it's pretty clear that the theme of the game is, if you're feeling like you're gonna kill yourself, maybe you should reach out to somebody and talk to them.

So that you can get some support and not kill yourself. And Anita is saying this to herself. Anita is saying, no, reaching out for help is for pussies. So she's going through it as well. Yeah, yes, okay. And so she's trapped in the suicide, ghost dimension, blah, blah, blah, right? Okay.

Whenever she sees the flashbacks with Maya, every single time you see them, more and more of the environment is covered with post notes of negative self-talk. I say negative self-talk, because they're not from other students or kids at school or whatever. They're all self-directed. You're ugly. You're fat. You're stupid.

Yeah, internalized. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So clearly Anita's building up to kill herself. You get to the, you dodge the monster a couple of times. You get to the top of the building. She leaps off, right? Wakes up back in the building. Didn't work, right? Couldn't kill herself, right? You then wiggle through and go into the circumstances of why Maya killed herself. Well, there is a third character here named Amelie, right? Amelie is a friend to the two girls, right? She's just a normal girl on the side, their pal, right? And when Anita and Amelie met Maya, Maya started to pay lots of attention to Amelie, right?

Like nearly exclusively, right? You even get a cut scene where like they introduce and it's from your perspective. And Maya like looks at you goes Hey, and then turns to talk to the person she really wants to talk to right okay, right that that kind of thing going on and Then you find out over the course of this that Anita our main character upset that Maya is more popular than her and is better friends with her best friend started a rumor at school that escalated and escalated and escalated and caused Maya's suicide. Okay.

Because she was afraid that Maya was going to take her friend away. Okay. The remaining bits is dealing with her night childhood trauma, which is I'm going to be super cynical, like wildly, wildly, wildly cynical, because Anita shows off what's called complex post traumatic stress disorder. So post traumatic stress disorder is you go through a traumatic event, you have flashbacks, you have shakes, you have nightmares, you have levels of degrees of anxiety, etc. etc. Complex post-traumatic stress disorder is post-traumatic stress disorder that's become

totally untreated for so long that you're getting secondary effects. And the secondary effects are difficulty maintaining relationships, guilt that comes out of nowhere, anxiety, horrible negative self talk. The reason why I say this is cynical is that if you type in complex PTSD into Google you will get like the Cleveland Clinic or like the NHS description of complex PTSD which you could use to write this character because she's not in depth enough. It looks like they typed in psychiatric illness and then read off the symptoms to apply to their

character. Okay. Which is why I think the nightmare sequence about you know her horrible traumatic childhood is in there So their character makes sense. So they're web-MDing psychiatric illnesses like The starting so you're experiencing Anita's self hatred and you're experiencing Maya's journal entries to learn about them But you're not learning about Amelie's Yeah, you learn a little bit and she has her own problems, but she's mostly to the separate So you go through the the game you learn that actually oh, it's tragic Maya actually was Anita's friend after all

Turns out she wasn't just drawing a big mural of Amelie, and that's what set Anita off. She was drawing a big mural of all of them. They were all friends, and she just forgot and only remembered after she killed herself. Her friend killed herself? So, we now have a situation in which... Anita goes, It's all my fault. I'm gonna kill myself. And texts, Amelie, hey, I'm gonna kill myself, sorry.

Bye. And then as she's about to put her foot over the goddamn edge, she gets a text message and goes, Hey, let's go shopping tomorrow. Don't leave me, we're friends. We'll just go hang out and go shopping. And she sees that and she steps off the edge and she falls down and cries and then the graffiti

and the chains all split into flowers. And she's like, I am gonna go shopping. Maya is. No, no, Anita. The girl we've been playing as. Maya's dead, she's super dead, nothing to be done with her. Anita receives the text message?

Yeah, that's right. From her living friends. From Emily. Yeah. Okay, okay. And so like, you're supposed to feel like, hey, she reached out. Yeah. Okay. Okay. And she's, and, and so like you're supposed to feel like, hey, she reached out. Yeah. And someone reached out back. But the reach out was too late.

And then the game ends on an incredibly bizarre thing where she says like the strongest animals don't need help line again and still believes it and then goes, but I don't even care. I just want somebody to care about me. And it's like, wow, you didn't change your mind at all. You actually just gave up. Is she speaking from beyond the grave at that point? No, no, no, she's alive. This is her walk off the building to safety or whatever.

Oh, oh, I thought that moment happened and that she received the message too late while she had already done. No, no, she's she's fine. She makes it back because she got a text message about shopping. I see. I see. I see. And what you're supposed to feel and then it hits you with the suicide hotline thing again. And like, it's it's like it's overwhelming. It's like, Hey, reach out, reach out. Reach out if you need help.

Reach out if you need help, right? Woman. Doesn't matter if you think it's for pussies. Reach out if you need help. To be shopping though. Right? Women be shopping. They do be shopping.

They be shopping. They be shopping though. It's just tone deaf. But what's actually way more important. All right. And when I say that the plot is wrong, is that it's like, reach out. All you have to do is reach out to somebody.

And it's like, it expects you to forget that there are like six or seven cut scenes in which Maya is looking at the camera going, sorry, Anita, I think I'm going to kill myself. I think I should kill myself. Do you think it would be cool if I killed myself? And Anita goes... I don't know. Maybe? Would- would I be friends with Omelie again if you did that? Wow! Like that's not not she doesn't say

that out loud. But like the reason she starts the rumor that causes Maya's suicide is so she can be Amelie's best friend again. Right. Right. And by the end of the game, Maya is dead. And Amelie is her best friend again. Yeah. And the theme of just reach out to somebody is like, I just watched someone reach out for days, if not weeks, to somebody who wouldn't listen and was like kind of actively hoping for them to go away. Okay.

So it's like, reach out to somebody who's not a psycho. See. It's the actual message. So every silent hill that I've, or at least from what I know, like the idea of the main character being sort of like as you play them, they don't really know what's going on. But as you reveal it, you you learn about the fucked up things they've done. When I hearing about these fucked up things that Anita has done,

she bullied a girl on the killing herself because she was jealous about her Twitter likes. Yeah, so that's right. So like that is having a character that has done these fucked up things in and of itself is not an issue. It's in where you go with that, right? It's great. Because there being something fucked up

they have to get over or something they're not meant. Whatever the case, however you play it, I hear that and go, do you use that flaw to then reach a conclusion that someone who's done that should? That the existence of that fucked up behavior with the Twitter thing and the goal of getting back to the friendship and all that, I have no problem

with that existing as a part of what she's done. It's where you go from that. Here's where it goes like extra fucky, right? So Anita was the recipient of very, that. Here's where we get here's where it goes like like extra fucky right so Anita was the recipient of very very extreme childhood abuse like her mom was very neglectful and like her brother got killed. Anita as well okay yeah Anita was no no Anita is the one that got childhood abused. Okay okay and their names are too similar. I know I thought you said Emily earlier was the walking like

Okay, their names are too. I might have screwed it up. They're like all the same fucking name. It's annoying. Okay, Anita Me character. Yes, okay got neglected abused as a child and her brother got murdered. Okay by her mom So she's all damaged and fucked up and and traumatized. It's trauma! Okay. And so you learn about all the bad things that Anita did, and then you find out that she was horribly traumatized as a child.

And then that goes, well, okay, this is what caused the crazy insecurity that led to her doing these bad things. OK, so if if the main character is the one who suffered the complex PTSD, yeah, what? So this Samantha America strand, the third person over here, who are rather like, do you learn anything about her and why her role in the in the three of them? She's their friend. She's just a normal person that doesn't have any of those issues and is just interesting. She does, but like the important part for the plot is she's their

friend. Okay. All right. And they're friend fighting. They're like, no, mine. Okay. Okay. Um, so you find out, okay, Anita, our main character was horribly abused as a child. Yes. Therefore this led to the consequences, the circumstances that enabled her to horribly abuse someone else. Maya. Yes. this led to the circumstances that enabled her to horribly abuse someone else, which led to their death, which then she feels suicidal guilt over.

This is weirdly similar to the medium in which a person who was horribly traumatized in their youth traumatized in their youth goes on to enact that trauma against other people. Medium says, if you're so traumatized you lash out against others, you should die. That was the big deal about the medium, and it was the worst possible lesson ever. Short message implies that if you're so traumatized you horribly lash out against other people then that's okay because bad things happen to you as a kid. Like it goes like it's the inverse. It's like abuse is like an excuse to do bad things. Like abuse is like an excuse to do bad things. Okay, so she gets a happy ending of sorts

and essentially what you're saying is that it doesn't face the consequences. No, like her art rival dies, she has her best friend back, and she walks away. Okay. Because. And she doesn't learn anything. Like, they do. Because again, I'm like, I'm taking this,

I'm taking this as, again, the new, recent Silent Hill completion, you know, a new person that's just experienced those games. And like the bad things that James has done and the things that he thinks of himself, like you get to experience those and you get to watch them mirrored and other people that are the supporting cast about that.

And then towards the end, as you see the guilty feels for what he did you then get a couple of different routes that you can end that with. Yeah and the genius around James's portrayal in Silent Hill 2 is that like what like you can you it's so smart because you even see exactly what happened and you even hear like arguments right before it happened. But what really matters is what was in his heart at the exact moment that it happened, right?

Because he makes the argument that he did it because he was angry or selfish or sad or pitying or right. And it's like, well, what was, what were you feeling at that exact moment? And the idea is that your behavior over the game is influencing, okay, well, what, what kind of person is he? Really?

Right. What was he? And then it tries to chart an answer in the ending from, well, if it was, he was actually really angry, then, you know, he's a horrible piece of shit. Or lust for the nurses or. Yeah, right. Like, what was it?

What was the exact moment here? Like, she's actively lamenting that Maya is still more popular in death, like at the start of the game. While you as your OK. Like, it would be like Like it would be like James flipping out his cell phone to look at like sexting pics of nurses. Well, I wonder where my wife is at. Right, right, right.

Okay, okay. And again, if someone starts in the middle of their shit and has a journey, You can tell that story. I just, you know, each time there's like a character flaw here that I just, I'm like, all I go to is like, it's not a problem that that flaw exists, it's just where we go with it. Yeah, so it kind of goes nowhere.

And it's shlock, it's dreck. It's written by people who don't understand the things they're writing about They don't understand teenage girls. They don't understand complex BDSD. They don't understand silent Hill um, and so I saw like a really funny Twitter posts I think a couple hours after this came out which was being retweeted So somebody like a year ago was like, you know what, fuck it, Silent Hill's terrible. Those games are almost all awful, except for the good ones. Yeah, make four new ones. Who gives a shit?

What's the worst that could happen? And then they retweeted their thing like a year later, just going, nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo got Ascension, which is like so bad we can argue about whether or not a fucking robot wrote it. And we've got this, which is like a walkathon in the shadow of PD that controls like shit and has a stupid message. And they wanted to, and they wanted to approach, again, a very important subject matter, but I guess didn't have an understanding of what they were dealing with. Of any of it. Okay, and you would always want to assume or hear,

assume that someone on the team is an expert in this and there's an opportunity to consult, and the writing is going back and forth while talking to people that know. Teenage girls are on their phones a lot. So I don't I can't watch this while we're going but Azna did send me a one-minute clip of an interview with someone who was perhaps a dev? Yeah I think that's the clip I talked about where he describes wanting to make a game about how the old people screwed everything up. Like there's a line of dialogue in like the early games,

like those stupid adults have ruined everything. And you find all sorts of newspaper articles about the economic restoration of the city is falling apart because of COVID. Except. Oh man. It's gonna get like a thumbs up from me on your phone starts glitching out instead of the radio, Man, it's going to get it's going to get like a thumbs up for me on

your phone starts glitching out instead of the radio, which makes sense. OK, that's fine. And that bit where you're flashbacking through your childhood and you get shorter every time you read something or open a door until your child size in the room you started in. Yeah. Smart. Yeah. So. So you mentioned gameplay is very basic and not much to it. And you mentioned that the story is irresponsible in the subject matter. What is it also

kind of doesn't make sense in some parts. You just say what how does it on a technical level being being scary and not okay. Okay. It's not scary. So it's the monsters cool. The cherry blossom monster is pretty cool, and you have to run from it and it tries to block your path. The problem is, is that. In order to beat the game's final level,

you have to start juke the monster around corners and waiting for it to walk towards one hallway to jump down the other hallway. And you spend, like that last sequence in one run was like 10, 11 minutes. And by the time I got to the end of it, like the monster's not fucking scary anymore. It's just-

Yeah, it gets boiled down to its mechanics. It's like the shittiest game of Dead by Daylight. Right, right, right. I've ever played. Yeah, I mean that is, to be fair, I guess, I'm like, depending on, I imagine a lot of horror games have this problem where once you know the mechanics of what it is, it's not scary anymore,

you're just going through the road like how to avoid the problem. Yes, I have forfeits that problem by having the guy chasing after you just have a gun. Okay. Hmm. Man, I should, you walk into a room and Walter just lights you up from across the field.

I can imagine the intention with this type of short, free, full game being one where the hope was this would be a well received likeived like, hey, silent hill. Well not just that, but also here's a game with meaning to the way it handles the subject matter. Again, it's handling suicide in a way where you can recommend this to people to go like, oh, if you've been through something similar, play this game. It might have something to tell you. I can imagine a world where a short and sweet share this amongst your friends to get a powerful message was the intended goal here. Hmm. Yeah. Okay.

And also, the game like reeks, it stinks of... Wow, we're really doing something good here. Cut to the live action. You talk about cut to the live action, I'm like, oh boy. All right, look, you said it was sacrifice. I liked, but man, you gotta be careful. I have the quote, so I went and got the quote that she, that Anita says, this is the final quote of the game's message.

This is the final quote of the game's message. This is THE short message. Seeking connection with others is a weakness. It's running away. The strongest animals don't form groups. They act alone and only need themselves to survive. Those who betray themselves to fit into groups are pathetic. There's no beauty in living like that. But I don't really mind. I just want someone to understand me. So like, do you see what I mean? Like the game's like premise is like, is wrong? And then she like makes the addendum and she's still wrong? Man.

Like I was about to ask between this and the medium, I'm like, who's handled it in a solid way? And I was like, oh, it's called the in-water ending. Yeah. Actually, like, yeah. Okay. I'm gonna say something that's gonna sound controversial, but if you give me literally 60 seconds,

you'll be like, oh yeah, you're probably right. Silent Hill 2 is the worst thing that ever happened to Silent Hill. Nope, I don't need 60 seconds, I need one, I get it. Okay, I get it. You immediately get it, right? I get it, I get it. Okay, so for people who don't get it,

Silent Hill 1 is about the cult, Silent Hill 3 is about the cult, Silent Hill 4, you might not know it, it's about the cult. Silent Hill 3 is about the cult. Silent Hill 4, you might not know it. It's about the cult. Silent Hill 2 is the town is a crucible for your trauma. You can work through your trauma through the haunting of Silent Hill and it could be anything. So that attracted just the fucking stupidest, worst writers to be like, I'm gonna write my traumatic redemption story using scary monsters and

None of them know how to do it None of them know how to do it will the silent Hill five six seven eight nine and Fucking short message are all about the silent hilltues Crucible of trauma and they are all terrible PT isn't the person in the house in PT isn't related to the family That's just a ghost. That's someone else. It's a fucking ghost That's haunting the fucking building

Man Shattered memories is alright, but that's mainly because the twist is pretty good I like shattered memories It was my first one and I did I I did enjoy it out of all of the attempts by not team silent shattered memories is like Oh, yeah, but that was a good attempt. I Mean again coming at it like it still meant that playing one and two left a stronger impact than that one did So I guess like that worked in the order I went in but um Yeah, that is a ice very tempting formula to try to emulate.

And yet with its simplicity, there's so much that can go wrong. So, um, I'll take this moment to point out just how bad it's gotten. So everyone can argue about what the stupidest and shittiest silent hill is. And you all have a good point. Uh, but the worst, the absolute worst that takes the cake is downpour. Because you are constantly chased by a big scary pyramid head style monster that is going to punish you because you murdered the kid. Sorry you murdered the guy who murdered your son right, that's The main characters trauma in Silent Hill downpour is that your son what got killed and then you went to prison and you killed the guy

Who killed him and you slashed his shit up. he's dead and you feel bad about it. And there's an ending that reveals that he didn't actually kill him at all. And then the entire game completely falls apart and makes no sense. Like it literally, it literally makes no sense at all. Like not a single event in the game connects to the character in any way because the thing you've been obsessing over the whole game didn't happen. See I was about to ask how is the like auto-generated like TV non-playable thing that is just a bunch of random skit like spoopy events happening not the worst thing in the franchise I Mean if you want to talk the worst thing in the franchise we can talk about the fucking comics, but I mean sure I

The games I guess I was talking about the games. Okay, you actually play Yeah, no the game that its story actually makes no sense at all and is internally inconsistent is is is the worst. A shout out to homecoming and downpour for being games in which you could get the joke ending by accident the first time you play the game. Dog UFO. In one of the four ending choices leads to the UFO ending out of nowhere.

And in Downpour, you can get the joke ending by accident, and Pyramid Head will come out to cut a cake for you and tell you happy birthday instead of the game's real ending and you're like, what the fuck is happening? you're like, what the fuck is happening? See, I can imagine, I can imagine a story like the one you just told about the short message that spent a couple more hours, um, with someone like Anita analyzing what the fuck were you thinking when you looked at your friend's phone and saw that and had this thought, what, what the fuck were you thinking when? You looked at your friend's phone and saw that and had this thought what what the fuck were you actually said? What was I go like what what did that mean or what was it about this friendship slipping away from like confronting these things? Peace by peace right like I know No, okay. Don't don't don't don't do it. Okay. Woolly, Silent Hill 4 came out in 2004. This series has been terrible. Like terrible for 20 straight years.

And every single time they put one out, I go, maybe this one. And every time it's it's terrible. Oh, but I mean, question. Did you see that silent Hill to combat trailer though? Yeah. Oh, this is the one. So, so, um, have the exact team, um, writers, especially that made two. Are I don't know what happened to them? Did that did they make the bad ones too?

Or no, no, there's only one person. I don't know what happened to them. Did they make the bad ones too? Or? No, no. There's only one person who has been there the whole time. And that's Akiri Yamaoka. Okay. Who every time gives his blessing to the new project because, well, I was on Team Silent. Sure, sure.

So he is also a problem. Despite his incredible music, like incredible. Because I'm just wondering, it's like, like with a lot of other games in this industry, if not the main franchise, is there a legacy of the staff that you can follow elsewhere? No, Team Silent is gone. They've been gone for decades. Right. I don't know what happened to Team Silent.

There's Masahiro Ito, who publicly said I regret making pyramid head at all. I remember that tweet. Yep, I do remember that one. And there's Kariyamaoka, who's like the music guy who is also an enabler. And everybody else I don't remember. Team Silent's really small.

It was like 13, 14 people. And no offense, but like the incredible art and the incredible music are wonderful, but like the strength of the core of what we're discussing here is how Silent Hill 2 was written. Yeah, no, one, two. Key members of Team Silent include one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, 10 people.

Okay, all right The the okay. Hey the director of Silent Hill He went on to me. I'm a rush. Oh You oh, yeah, you want to hear the the fucking list Silent Hill in 99? Okay, that's great before that Snatcher, after that, Siren, Siren 2, Siren 3, Gravity Rush, Gravity Rush 2. That's a straight line. That is, that's- And this is the director. That's the director. Okay. Background designer, director of three, and Sug Segru and the drama director of two don't

even have wiki articles because they later joined Kojima productions. Okay. Um, scenario writer, uh, went on to, oh man. He worked on, oh wow. He, did he work on these No, he didn't okay click on the scenario writer's name and the wiki links you to just Silent Hill I See, okay, cuz so yeah, you know Executive producer

Lead programmer so that team just never existed again? Yeah, no, they just, it split the fuck apart after four. And they either left the industry, went on social media to get pissed off, kept doing the music or got folded into Kojima Productions. And we are talking about 10 people. Okay. Well, I mean, that certainly explains it at the very least. Um, but yeah, no, silent Hill 2 is easily the worst thing to do it.

But hey, listen, we're getting a new Silent Hill 2. I don't know if you saw. I certainly did. I don't know if you fucking saw. I certainly did. I did. Um, I mean, do you want to get into that now? I still, there was. When do you want to get into that now? I still... There was like...

When do you want to get into it? I mean, like right on the back of talking about the short message does make sense, but there is the... Well, there's my week and there's State of Play. Okay. Well, let's just roll into Silent Hill 2. Sure. Yes.

So, the trailer drawings State of Play for the Silent Hill 2. Sure. Yes, so this is the trailer drawings they to play for the Silent Hill 2 remake. This is the Bloober Team one. Yeah, so what's that trailer called? It is called the... What is it called? It's called the Silent Hill 2 Combat Trailer. Okay. Ha ha ha! The uh, uh, I guess at bare minimum, the hopes, well, I, you know, I can't even, I'm not even gonna put words in your mouth on it,

but I'm, I don't know, fine, you're good for it. Well, I just, I'm like... If you say something wrong, I'll just be like, nah, I don't feel that way. Well, just like, Silent Hill fan, I assume what Silent Hill fans must feel especially at this point in time is similar to- Feels like being in Silent Hill, haha. It must feel similar to like what we're hoping for of the, like looking at the snake eater remake where it's just like oh Jesus Christ this can go wrong in so many million ways.

Will they just do? Is this going to be a somewhat prettier version of the exact same thing? Or are they going to attempt to change things and add things to it and inevitably fuck it up? Right. So there's a there's a whole like philosophical discussion to be made about how to remake something. Right. And that applies to film. There's a whole like philosophical discussion to be made about how to remake something, right? And that applies to film, it applies to books, applies to music, it applies to

games, right? Am I gonna cover a smooth criminal, but it'll be rock, haha, like Alien and Farm, right? And it's mostly the same, it's just a different beat or am I gonna cover hurt and Transform it into a completely different fucking song shoutouts cash. Yep. Yep. Yeah, right So we we run the gamut all the way from like persona re three reload is really accurate like it's it's it's it's like What if persona three came out in the year 2024? Yeah, instead of 2006, right?

I like both of those covers. I like the shadow of the Colossus remake and I think that was a good time. I also like FF7R and like. Yeah, so you have like this wide range of it, right? There's different ways to approach. Silent Hill 2 presents an extremely bizarre problem for remaking, and that is, it is a game that was made weird. Silent Hill 2 was made in a highly idiosyncratic manner, in which

games don't get made like that anymore, right? Who's voicing James in the Silent Hill 2 remake? Troy Baker. Why is Troy Baker voicing James in the Silent Hill 2 remake? He's a talented actor. He is hot right now. He's worked with Konami. He dubbed over James in the last remaster. The choice is obvious, right? He dubbed over James in the last remaster. Ah

The choice is obvious right? Why was guy see he cast as James Guy see he was casted as James because he was a guy someone went out onto the street and went Do you want to be in a video game and And he went, I'm not an actor. And they went, that's cool. No, don't worry about it. Wasn't it wasn't it that he was standing there because Francis, his daughter was applying, was a for a role. And he just happened to be in the office when they were looking around to get some for James.

And they went, OK, you're James now. And usually that means I've cast you for the role of this character. No, they took I see he and went, okay, you're James now. And usually that means I've cast you for the role of this character. No, they took Guy Sihy and went, we're gonna put this man in there with no planning. And he's not a professional actor. So he sounds weird as shit, which ended up sounding great. You can't tell someone to act weird as shit in the way that guys see

he not knowing what he's doing can do. It legitimately is an unemulatable performance because he's not trying to do that. I mean, yeah, the first thing we said watching it was or that I said, I like is just that like I don't think Anyone can recreate the letter reading. I don't I don't know I mean it prop I'm not gonna say it can't be done because it probably could but I did I it feels like that is a fucking Roll a 20 or fail on whether you're gonna pull that off. I decided to emulate on my stream

what the new letter reading was gonna be like. And so I went to YouTube and loaded up the Persona 4 Foggy Day theme and read the letter with like, James, you promised me to take me there again someday, but you never did. Well, I'm waiting there now. It's, it's like you're walking into a fucking room and go, okay, listen, you have to, we're remaking Sophie's choice

and you are gonna have to beat Meryl Streep. Go! And it's like, and then the actress they have there just starts going, uh, uh. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, even the original, like, the original, I mean, the original original, like the original, I mean, the original performance, it's like,

I don't know if she would want to do it again. Like, I don't know, I don't know. Wally, we're talking about games so old, the question starts to become, I don't know if that lady's still alive. Of course, of course. Let alone do it again. So yeah, Pete, Pete, it's not Pete, Silent Hill 2 was made in a really idiosyncratic way. And the

combat trailer shows, look guys, we've improved the combat so it plays well. And it's like, when people said the combat in Silent Hill 2 was bad, they didn't mean I wish it played like Resident Evil This is not a flaw to be fixed flaws aren't necessarily problems It wasn't the focus and so when I'm watching this combat trailer and somebody pointed out and you see a fucking nurse in the hospital do a fucking cover vault to run at James. Like she puts her hand on the thing and like leaps over like a fucking like a soldier to run at him with her fucking pipe. And I'm like, you you don't get it.

I mean, look, you're now you're talking to someone who backstepped piped the giant fucking moth thing Output seed pyramid head and beat the final boss of three with the samurai sword. Absolutely So I absolutely labbed the combat in that and played it Absolutely fully knowing that this was not the intended way to play the game sure This was not the intended way to play the game. Sure, but the intent of Silent Hill's combat was not to provide you with an exhilarating thrill. Right, right. In fact, that's the last thing that should be providing you

for, because part of the game's theme is that you shouldn't get an exhilarating thrill about killing things, because there's a character in the game whose entire storyline is that he's having fun shooting things with a gun. So then the question becomes, do you make it so that the turning radius is slow in the way that you described in the short message, or do you make it feel like a modern game that is automatically infinitely smoother than Silent Hill 2 was, but you put other penalty, you know, like how do you approach

that particular idiosyncratic? And it's very interesting. Yeah, idiosyncratic is the correct word, right? Like it was a very peculiar, particular set of circumstances that led to how that game came out. And the intent of what was awkward about it lends itself beautifully into the atmosphere. Right. So then the argument becomes, like Pat,

are you saying that Silent Hill 2's gameplay should be bad on purpose? No, because Silent Hill 2's gameplay was not bad on purpose. It was idiosyncratic and it was weird, and they did the best they could with what they had, but they weren't aiming for bombastic shooter action. If you wanna modernize it, if you wanna make it new and fresh and be fun, I'm using air quotes to play

because fun doesn't always mean fun. Sometimes it can mean stressful, sometimes it can mean, you know, what have you. You don't wanna go for exhilaration, right? You want to go for anxiety, which is the original point of the whole thing. So what do you do? You make the game, I don't know, a survival horror game. You make combat hard and strict and punishing and something to be avoided. Have abilities to defend yourself,

but you shouldn't be going through portions of the game lighting people up like Leon going, yeah, nurses! Mm-hmm. Long reloads. Signalists, somebody mentioned signalists. What a great example. You shoot tons of people and signal us. And it's never exciting.

It's always stressful. Right. Right. Right. OK. So the enemies not die right there. Done. The modern standard of just walking around in a 3D environment is has come leaps and bounds from the days of SH2. But yeah, make make it so that the stress is always felt. Make James really inaccurate with a gun.

I like show him like visibly shaking. Reload time comes to mind immediately from any time you decided to like dump a mag dump into something, you know? Um, yeah. Okay. you decided to like dump a mag dump into something. You know? Yeah, okay. So I put out a tweet about this where it's like, I'm a hyperbolic man. I like to exaggerate.

I think it's a fun thing to do. But somebody posted a screenshot of James walking through a hallway in the Woodside apartments and written in unadorned white graffiti, like somebody typed it out on a word processor on the wall, was the phrase, reap what you sow. Reap what you sow, I saw that. And I said, like, this may seem like hyperbolic, this may seem like too much, but this is the exact moment that I knew that this remake was fucked. Because it's so...

Like I used a visual metaphor and apologies for the folks listening to the audio version of the podcast, but I said part of the genius of Silent Hill 2 is that it was pointing at you, but you didn't know it was pointing at you. Like a lot of the game is pointing at James, be the dress on the flashlight. Like the dress on the flashlight is genius, because it's literally shining a light directly in James's face.

And when he moves the flashlight off of it, he goes, oh, that's a familiar dress, but you don't know how familiar the dress is. So it's like literally shining it directly in your face, but you don't get it. Shit like that is a man pointing at the camera and looking you in the eyes going, hey, you! Motherfucker!

People compared it to an out of the way piece of graffiti like North of the Hospital that you can miss, which is written first of all in blood. I remember, yeah. Second of all, it's written in nonsense capitalization. Like words are capitalized at random and it's strange. And it goes, if you wanna see Mary, maybe you should just die, James,

but maybe you'll be going to a different place than her. But perhaps you're going to a different place than she is. Yeah. And here's the thing. I know what that means. You know what that means. Most of this audience knows what that means. Upon replay, you do, certainly.

But the first time you see it, that could mean anything. It could mean you're in hell right now. And the idea of like, when, or the idea of like the way you go through the game for the first time, how much you suspect of what's going on is your fault versus like the outside world just fucking shitting on you. Being bananas. Is a slow release until you jump in the hole

and then it starts to really let go. So I'm like scrounging my brain for what is the absolute most hack shit that the remake could possibly include. And I think I know what it is. I think that if you go to Neely's bar earlier in the game, there will be a hole there. And it will be gone. And later you can read a note that says

there was a hole here, but it's gone now. That is the stupidest thing. That would be the most. Like wow, you just didn't even get that at all. Right, okay. Like at all. you just didn't even get that at all. Right, okay. Like at all. Yep. And they'll say back to you, you know, you're right, I didn't get it, because there never

was a hole there. And I'm like, the point was that it doesn't make any sense and it's threatening. It's the fucking strange thing to read on a wall in a place where the rules don't apply. I mean, it could be that or it could be as simple as pre-order weapons, get pyramid heads sword early. It could just be that simple Outfit changes Costume changes. Yeah, no this games like tone is like violently opposed to standard forms of DLC

I I literally any of the normal things would be like disgusting I did misunderstand what the short message was when I was looking at it I thought it was going to be a free on a free like full-length Silent Hill mess game that would have microtransactions or something to make up. No, it's it is to its credit. Just a short free out now and available. Yeah. But I would say like anything that goes under the DLC tab in for Silent Hill to remake is your death now if you really, you know, if you really want to. I know what I know what would be the I know what would be the most likely hack shit.

So what they're going to do is they're going to they're likely using motion capture on the people in this game, right? They're doing performance capture. That's my assumption. And they will have a lady that plays Maria and Mary, right? They're doing performance capture. That's my assumption. And they will have a lady that plays Maria and Mary, right? Cause it's the same voice, right? That makes sense. And their models are going to look the same, but with different hair and clothes. Right? This year, you following me so far? And what the problem with that is, is that the difference between Mary and Maria

is not their hair and clothes. The difference between Mary and Maria is their hair, their clothes, their body shape, every single bone in their head and the size of their head is different. The only thing that's similar is their face only and their voice. So if we see Maria and Mary and they're just the same character wearing different clothes, it's like this is like the most important detail

of the most important character in the game is that they actually look nothing alike. They don't. Other than their face. I didn't. And just the face. I didn't know that. I thought they were the same model.

They almost just swapped out. Yeah. Just like face off, like peel face, just swapped out. Just like like like face off like peel face just the face. That's why Maria looks so off compared to Mary. I did that not even the same size. What you're describing is something I didn't get or catch or feel at all. That's not well they never stand next to each other. So right. Yeah. Okay. Huh. Interesting. Um, and then, and that's, that's, and that's, and that's to say nothing of again, Bloober team and the medium.

Um, the baby ghost running into the wall. Uh, go. How, how was, um, layer of fear layers of fear? Possibly plagiarized. Oh yeah. This might have been a story we covered and I forgot from years ago. What was the deal with that? Let me find it.

Because that was the game they made beforehand. There was there was there was a lawsuit about this. About some of the art they used, they didn't have permission for because it's it's about an art game. I see. OK. And they just took the art, I believe it was. But I don't have I don't have all the art, I believe it was. But I don't have.

I don't have all the details, though. I do have a video here called how the layers of fear dev copy pasted their way to know to write. I see. OK. And then some patches were. But they're bad also. They're not good. Gotcha. Okay, they're bad

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over to show or do anything content wise. There's that cutscene you get when you get to that first tower. And like there might, and if there is other cutscenes or characters that trigger anything, I haven't found them yet. Maybe I just explored the wrong places, but just expanding outward onto that map and hitting all the different towers and teleport points is just a, well, there's a beautiful area

that might have something to it. There might be some lore, but for now, it's just a spot that I flow to. And I saw some stuff down there, but there's never a moment even in like, if you're gonna do like a, take a breath of the wild or tears of the kingdom example, or so, where like, it'll stop

and then give you a little camera panning over a new environment. No, you're never gonna get that. You're getting nothing, nothing, nothing. Never. It's so just raw and it's almost a bit of that like, you know, Unreal Engine. Yeah, Unreal Engine, here's the world generated,

drop you in, run around and make it happen. Drop your ass in there, you figure it out. That's like, that's like the core of the genre. Do survival games ever, while you're, they never do anything? They never do anything. No. Huh. Baffling. Okay. It does feel like-

So part of that reason is because you're dropping in and out of your friend servers Okay, would be seeing that shit over and over and over okay Because I also like you are you are the the goal. I yeah, it is entirely self-directed It never feels like you hit a milestone like you do unlock a level which means the forest the forest has stuff People are right the forest does have stuff. There's like story stuff and cutscenes in the forest. Okay, then I haven't, I just happen to not get there yet. I've gone a lot of other places and I've expanded out

of the map quite a bit. I've easily like unlocked, maybe like 50 Teleport points at this point or so. Oh wow really a lot. I have a lot of them but Oh the hold on Willie are you talk wait when I said the forest I meant the the video game the forest Not your okay, not an area of the game I said the forest I meant the the set the video game the forest

Not your okay not an area of the game that is the no I meant Okay retail product the forest and our sons of the forest well with a name like that That certainly sounds like you're describing an area of the map in power world. Okay. That's it. Come the fuck on all right That's it. Come the fuck on. All right. Yeah. So each making it through each of those levels to like now you get the ability to work with metal. Now you get the ability to unlock your conveyor belt and all of that stuff.

And you'll get your journal entries for sure and the way you can then get electricity or circuit boards to like advance your tech and you get the ability also. There's certainly a tone setting piece of equipment you can build which is the oversight booth. Did you get that? Like, okay, it's like a foreman's booth. I sat down and played it three times and then I was done with it. Okay, so you can build a booth that is like you put that's like looking over the job site, you know, right, and on it you can then choose to have your pals work at a normal pace. You can work at a brutal pace or you can have them work at an excruciating pace. Hell yeah. And you can see the unhappiness go up up you know and it's work harder it's changed

for sanity. Good. You also encounter like there's the there's the medical table that you can build stuff at and as that gets more advanced you get the ability to you know here's the medicine to deal with when they're sick they have a fracture okay well now they're sick, they have a fracture. Okay, well now they're depressed. Now they're weakened. Kill them. Or you can give them medicine for that. Oh, right, yeah. Or, and then like, but at a certain point,

you get ones which is like, here's a syringe that is great at controlling dissident pals, it says. Oh, dissident. Right, it's great. So like,! Right. You know, it's great. So like, yeah, there's stuff that, you know, it starts to bring that like wild theming back in, you know, in just in terms of what you unlock when you read the description. But I guess even in the lightest way possible, yeah, I, as this is my first time in this genre, I am missing moments of feeling as if I've arrived somewhere or I've done something.

And I guess Minecraft is not really going to do that either, right? That's not actually generated by a large. Well all this to say that I miss those things not being there, you know, realizing after a certain amount of time that I'm kind of Yeah, I mean you're in a sandbox essentially, you know So yeah, you would probably prefer something like the forest to Sons of the Forest or Subnautica, which are significantly more directed But Powell world's more on that arc Valheim thing where part of the loop is the assumption that you're gonna be playing it with your pals on a server.

Okay, here are the pieces, go. Yeah. Right. So like when I was playing Valheim with my buddies, I would hop into the server and everybody would be doing their own quests that they gave themselves. Like, I need to clean out the dirt so that there can be a new building here. So the content is going over there and seeing what type of base that person built and what they're up to. And some guy would always be like,

oh, I'm exploring the fucking fringe of the map to find cool shit and then building teleporters to bring them back, that kind of thing. Gotcha. Okay. Yeah. But it's overwhelmingly self-directed. I definitely I don't even mind the self-direction at all and I still do like when I come across a new like crazy-looking pal or or so that's like you know something like I want wanna fucking catch that. You know, that old bit is still in there. There's also just like needless teleports into Elden Ring zones. Like, we're not gonna pretend this isn't anything, but a Elden Ring boss room,

or a Demon Souls cavern. Like, they just,, their moments where the scenery and the environment just go into FromSoft for no reason and then back out of it. So we're a different game now. You know, and it doesn't do anything with it. It's just to invoke the imagery, you know? Yeah, so anyway, I'm definitely like continuing in there because I'm like, it is just a dumb

time waster and you know, there's a little bit of an it scratch to just like seeing what the further progress table is. 55 million copies sold this morning. And counting. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. sounding. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So at some point I can tell that I'm just going to be like, I'm satisfied. There's, I'm done.

That's fine. It'll be 26 dollars. That seems totally fair. Right. The thought though is I guess that like, guys, I was, I went so high that with 55 million that it was sarcasm how can you and when the 8 billion copies sold yeah there I had to go higher I had to go so ridiculous I am reminded however of when I started when you know I jumped on vampire survivors right and that was definitely that it's a time waster but then at a certain point definitely that, it's a time waster. But then at a certain point, it kind of stopped becoming a time waster and was like, oh.

And then you were like, no, this is my life now. But it's like, I would never have expected that game to start trying to like introduce any like little narrative bits, but then it did. And I was like, oh, that's pleasant. I didn't expect that. I was not here for it, but it's cool that it's going on. And that added to a sense of accomplishment

when I did unlock big things or get through big moments that occurred, you know? Man, if vampire survivors wasn't like actively harmful to like an infant's brain, like I would still have every achievement unlocked in Vampire Survivors. But like, I can't play that during the daytime hours, man. But yeah, I get it.

I know it's not the genre to compare it to, but in terms of like me just like killing time on a thing. When I was just planning to just run around in circles and make a stupid build in this bullet heaven game. And then it was like, oh, here's an encounter with this being and then you get spit back out to the main menu. And now there's a new code cheats menu or achievement list or some some brand new thing, you know, there's there's something that you did miss out on for vampire survivors woolly and that was I forgot what version number is I want to say it was like version like 0.62 or something like that

Where if you there were achievements and you did those there was a secret thing you could do and if you did the secret thing The game would crash and then reboot at a higher version number with new stuff in it Whoa, it would be version 666. Okay. And that only existed for one patch. Wait, was that when the main menu was upside down and crazy and shit? Yeah. Oh, I did get that. I did get that.

Yeah, but the version number is the joke because it would change to version 666 or something like that. Okay. And now the events occur because it came out and it was actually like version 62 or something like that. Okay, I don't know now the events occur, but because it came out and was actually like version six two or something like that. Okay. Okay. Yeah, the version number I don't remember what it was at the time, but I did get that whole weird sequence into because of the devil woolly until when you beat it. But yeah, I don't know what qualifies as beating vampire survivors anymore because

like that game has like seven different endings that are all on top of each other. Yeah. Well, I mean, you can, there's multiple steps to it, but I think you can just say like once I've seen all of the stuff, the content and then played through the DLC and seen what it was. Well, they add new content every day. Okay. Well, anyway, new content every day. Okay, well, anyway. Have you beaten the adventure mode?

Yeah, yeah. I haven't even played the adventure mode. Yeah, so I'm playing this for now, but I do know that there's just, yeah, there will definitely be a point of like, all right, I think I've think of, think of it, my fill. But for now, hey, cool. There's a, there's a pal that has a samurai sword and does I know stance slashes and that's cool.

You're on my, you get the pal that sucks your dick. Yes. They're hard workers. That's weird. They're pretty useful on the team, but they're very bad. They're very prissy, though. So you do. Oh, yeah. you do have to manage them quite a bit you know You got to keep them in line

Anyway, I didn't finish but I did start the tech and eight story and Did you you didn't touch that at all yet? Did you know a little bit so so far a whole lot of fun that's it's wacky and wild and I have to say that the very first thing that happens in that story is in that story is Jin running to stop Kasia and Kasia being like, yo, didn't you kill like a million people? What the fuck is wrong with you? Like, didn't you start this war? Who the fuck are you to talk about trying to save the day? And I was like, oh! Get his ass! Get him!

So they know, they know. I was very, very happy. I was very happy with that, like immediate call out, you know, and like, and essentially, Jin being like, oh man. Oh, I shouldn't have done that. Darn. You know, and then others are like,

and then the good guys are like, Jin, you're still the only one that can save us. You please believe in yourself. We're all fucking dead if you don't believe in yourself. For the love of God, get your shit together. Get all your shit and get it together, Jin. You know, and it's like, okay, and he's got to have, and he has that, he's going through the crisis and it's all happening.

But yeah, he is not getting off the hook right off the bat and and and then so it's like facing the devil within and all of that You know we're going through the motions, but I I just but at the opening volley The opening volley is oh, yeah, no, no, no, we know we know we know And his dad in the middle of being a shit mind you in the middle of Kazia being a shit, is just like, yo, fuck you hypocrite. Yeah, no, you're an asshole. Every single member of this family is an asshole. Including that one over there! Mm-hmm. Who? Except Sven, I guess.

Who, me? No, what? Huh? What's his name? Lars. Lars. Lars is a good guy. Yeah, well, I mean, he was originally on the bad side, but then, like, you know, if he saw the light.

But no, fucking, Reyna, she's just a student. She's just this girl in Jin Senpai, and she's such a huge fan. And what? Yeah, I don't know, man. Playing versus matches is that character kind of ruins that. And you're worried about about you're wondering about my Electrics and my Mishima style fist. I learned that off the internet. I just watched the video. I just watched some videos Yeah, oh, that's really funny. I just learned that watching online. That's all

So good so funny And I do like as well that like, yeah, there's a bracket that you actually, you know, play through in the middle of it as well. Then there was a, there's a tech and force mode equivalent, which is the like battlefield. And at first it seems like a good idea, because you're like in the middle of a surrounded environment and you're like taking on large groups and stuff, but it quickly starts to become a problem where it reminds me of This is a very specific poll But do you remember when we would play when I showed you the like the Gamecube narrow-toe games?

Yeah, I remember that and do you remember when there was like four player mode? Yes. And it was chaos because you could only look at one person at a time. So like your line of sight would be a 2D fighting game until you rotated to look at this person and now you're on this plane and then you rotate to look that way but you're all still moving in any direction as long as you're locked in with one other person. It was like it, anyway it's that. So you're having a tech end 1v1 with whatever soldier you choose to focus on and as they

surround you it just becomes like chaos and a huge problem. So that that that shit was was definitely getting rough. And all you really need is a tech and force original style. Just hit the stick to run in left or right direction and you could free yourself from the locked in 2D grid, you know? Anyway, anyway, going to finish that up later this week. Yeah, then I played some persona three. We talked about that already and talk about three.

It's good. And, uh, lastly, I started Half Life 2. Yeah, I saw. Hey, that's a fucking good video game. That's very cool. I mean, I'm enjoying it. How far I saw you riding boats. So how far did you get? Oh?

Boy riding boats man that section lasts huh? So it's one of those fun things Where you're like wow this section is really long and then you're're like, wait a second, 2004? You know what I'm missing? I'm missing the emotion of, holy shit, I'm riding a boat in a video game! Whoa! I guess. I guess.

Because that section goes, and then when you're just about like, all right, I think we've done it, they're like, now you got a gun, time to do it again, but now you got the gun this time. It was like, okay. So, yeah, it got very, it got, it was fun controlling the boat. It's just overstaying, it's welcome. And then you're fighting the boss fight on it and stuff.

And look, Reggie and I both get motion sickness, you know? Oh, really? Yeah, yeah. Oh. So, like, I had to fuck with the FOV quite a bit to make it, you know, one setting on the boat and another while on foot to handle it better. And I've gotten better with it over the years from basically public bullying and brute force, uh, thanks to everyone and they're shaming. I've gotten somewhat better with it, but I still do feel it from time to time.

And like, yeah, he got it too. So we hit a point where it was like, okay, we might have to actually like reconsider how we're approaching this. But for now, yeah I think like well anyway after we sat and talked about it quite a bit and I was like how do we want to go about this you, but the feeling of essentially like comfort cage distance, you know, is still a thing. The looseness of how the boat swerves in particular is a lot more extreme, especially in high FOV compared to when you're on foot. But when you're on foot, the low FOV I find makes it worse, you know, because everything's too close up. And you just get the ability to see more of your your periphery allows you to ground yourself and feel more comfortable. So it's yeah, it's a weird thing between the two modes.

Anyway, it's still a lot of fun. And right off the bat, it's interesting because in my head, a game like that and everyone like, like everyone, there's so much in the air about like what Half-Life means to video games. So I have all that above my head thinking about and expecting there to be a lot here in terms of I guess just these characters and the world and the narrative and stuff and of I guess just these characters and the world and the narrative and stuff. And simple enough, at least booting up Half-Life 2, no, not really. Like here's your intro, here's your G-Man immediately,

right in your face, you're being creepy. One of the best lines I've ever heard in anything right away, first line of the game. Wake up Mr. Freeman? No, the right, the right man in the wrong place. How's the hell, wait. Damn it, I love it so much, but I can't remember the specific phrasing.

Uh-huh. Yeah. I'm right. The right man in the wrong place can make all the difference in the world. That sounds... Okay. Okay. Well, okay. Well, I'm sure we'll get the context. Literally closing my eyes so that on the video

you can see me not reading chat. I'm sure in context we'll learn more eventually. But anyway, drops you in, establishes setting a little bit. You meet Alex, you meet the crew, you meet Barney, there he is. Hey! And then, before you know it, But anyway drops you in establishes setting a little bit you meet Alex you meet the crew you meet Barney there He is hey, and then before you know it you're right back to just silent Free man half life in this shit half life in yeah Just wandering about shooting up the soldiers and oh fuck there's a barnacle

You know and like the reinstalling the fear of oh no when I see a black line in the shadows, that might be death. Watch out. And then a whole lot of silence. A whole lot of silence is you just charge your gun, pick your bullets up and wander about. Yeah, it feels like a PC game of even an era prior to its release. It feels like a PC game from the 90s. Yeah, and so, and I don't know, I guess I thought that like, I was expecting, since it's such a big thing, that like I was gonna come back to something

that was narrative shooter in a way. I was almost like, is this gonna feel like a Gears of War? Where Gears of War is shooting and talking and shooting and talking, you know? So this is one of those things where it's like the weight of time has screwed up your perceptions, because it is a narrative shooter but it's so much further back from that from 2004 yes

exactly so like in 2004 Barney pulling off his mask and talking to you and his lips match his words yeah holy shit oh my god holy shit right oh trust I can feel the idea of like yo physics though The idea of the dude you need to get up this ramp. What if you put a cinder block on it? You counter balance the ramp. Yeah, it's the Like I feel like there should be a physics logo a havoc logo that pops up every time you have one of those puzzles To solve you know? I mean, it says a lot that the game's first interactive moment is pick up that can.

Yeah. And like, look man. Look, look. I mean even before that. Even before that, I was like fucking playing Toss the Bottle on the guard hang. Yeah, you know, but Yeah, but it was very cool. And what I did like as well is like, so I played Black Mesa four years ago. So it was definitely quite some time, but coming back now and doing it after that period, there's definitely an, oh shit, I forgot the vibe.

Right, okay, I remember this vibe. But you know, the distance has created a little bit, like ah, there's a headcrab, watch out. Oh, oh shit, I forgot the vibe, right? Right, okay, I remember this vibe. The distance has created a little bit, like, ah, there's a headcrab, watch out. Oh shit, yes, okay. We got a charge up here, what did I do for this again? And just remembering a little bit of what I had to do the first time, you know? So, yeah, anyway, that's cool.

Also hitting that crowbar, and maybe it's just a black Mesa crowbar is fucking nuts But like I'm like oh, this is a still insanely powerful, but not quite as in nuts crowbar Yeah, no the half-life to crowbar does not exist in the scroll wheel dimension mm-hmm That that you would that is a black Mesa That's a black Mesa thing. It was that thing was nuts, man. I loved it So yeah playing it. It's because it's not ultra kill and its demands are a little bit less

I've been able to play it mouse and keyboard and I've been okay But I've had to offload quite a bit of stuff onto my thumb buttons on the mouse as well as you can mouse You can just control it. I mean, the orange box came out on the goddamn Xbox 360. It did, and they plus they revamped a couple of stuff for controller support since the Steam Deck update, right? So it did get improved for that. But for the sake of just experiencing what everyone did

in the way they did, I wanted to do it this way, and if worse came to worse, I would switch over. Putting on even the game, PlaidHud was like, some folks were like, no, it's not what I remember. Turn it off. And so we, I mean there was an option too that I had to switch on. So, but yeah. Did you, I can't remember the exact order of events, but did you get the gravity gun?

Not yet. No. Okay. Literally the only thing I picked up was like the pistol and the like first MP5 or whatever. Okay. I'm not sure if it's an MP5 but it's not the, you know. Because the gravity gun is like super, super famous for a reason is because it was like the first time that like physics could be gameplay.

Okay. Um, yeah. So that was kind of it. And then, you know, the the some of the pronounced issues I had with keyboarding and ultra kill I definitely can see here, even under slower context, it's like, okay, the difference between having to play, well, anyway, like a much more hyper twitchy reaction game versus like something a little bit slower, but still requires you to be on point with it is that like WASD, right, got your ring finger and your, you know, index and pointer, our middle rather, and then pinky having to handle a bunch of extra, which is the shift, the control. And and and you know, kind of I put I put fucking shift and jump on my mouse buttons. So that's that's it.

That's it. That's that's basically the solution, right? And me kind of explaining to some folks that like if you've played all these games and you're used to that, then your pinky is probably used to reaching and being accurate with that. I'm hitting my start menu accidentally on that. My pinky is my least extra finger. I've never used it for Twitch reaction gaming ever. Versus my thumb on my mouse hand on my right side.

Where I'm so used to my thumb as the most accurate thing on my hand. Like I'm used to hitting the square and X buttons and then the square and triangle and then square and circle together and all variants in between with just my thumb. But with a mouse keyboard setup, that gets no usage.

You know? So like fucking Warframe uses crouch and then jump for its bullet jumping. So you're doing that like every fucking five seconds Okay, so I put that goddamn crouch button on my thumb Yeah, and and then smart asses want to keep coming at it with the have you ever typed before type shit And it's like obviously we all tires me control being oh do do do And yes, that fast. And yes, I rest my index on F and J, but it doesn't change the fact that under extreme, you're going to die in two seconds circumstances.

The pinky has never had to fly correctly around the corner of the keyboard and land in that high stress environment. It's not a practice thing that I've had. So that's why that. Yeah, I mean, almost every game that I play I also put crouch as a toggle. That doesn't work for Half-Life. Yes.

Now that- Half-Life wants you jump crouching into items. Not crouch jumping. Apparently. I don't even know. It's like one of the only games I've ever played that's like, no, I want you to jump and then crouch to get through this fucking hole.

Huh, yeah. I heard some people mentioning like jump crouching get through this fucking hole. Huh? Yeah I heard some people mentioning like jump crouching and was like I don't even Will see I suppose But yeah, it's been it's been it's been good so far despite the the motion sickness issues and Just gonna have to be very gonna have to play it a little bit safe on that Just gonna have to be very gonna have to play it a little bit safe on that Overall, I hope that we've reached the end of it because we did fight the helicopter that fucking God that helicopter fight

Just I kept going He's dropping barrels man, and apparently that was a bug It was supposed to just do a single run of a row of them and then like you have a real talent You and Paige both have the same fucking talent a single run of a row of them and then like... You have a real talent. You and Paige both have the same fucking talent. No, no, no, it was apparently a bug that they left in the game for everyone to experience. Is what I mean, is what I was told. No, I mean, you have the ability to cause bugs to occur. I do have that as well.

By your physical proximity. That is correct, but what I was told is that the way the thing attacks, that is now the known attack of that it uses, was originally a bug. Oh, that's funny. Yeah. So anyways, enjoying that, having a good time, and fully aware that the moment you play something

that that many people care about, a lot of one guys are going to be shitty about it and be annoying. And that's it is what it is. I know that's part for the course, it's fine. We are having a blast with it nonetheless. I just want to- Willie, there are people watching your show when you're playing Half-Life 2.

That is like, Willie, you're fucking up playing the video game I played when I was a baby. I'm reaching formative experience. I'm reaching into your past and destroying your memory. I'm ruining you. You're removing my childhood happiness. Absolutely. That's what I am. That's the goal. That's the goal of what I'm trying to accomplish here.

You know, it's funny. As we get older, people's first experiences with things are going to get weirder and more cringe. Cause I'm going to be like, you know, I used to like Star Wars and the old ones, you know, and they go, Oh, what? 789. And I'm going to be like 55. And I'm like, no, no, not those ones. I mean the old ones. Oh the the prequels no

Dude like fortnight is already a core memory for for two generations Really? It we're locked in we're locked the fuck in for that. I remember. Skibbity was actually that fat Turkish guy on TikTok pointing at foods that he was gonna eat. Is that the yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes thing?

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's Skibbity, man. Yeah, okay. yes, yes thing? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, the adventure, the return, is currently underway. Anyway, anyway, anyway. I have to reiterate it every time because it seems as if the... It's quite clear that Alex is very, very good, I guess, and so are the other spin-off things. Was it Blue Shift? Did I get that right? It depends what you're talking about. Blue Shift is a Half-Life one spin-off.

Okay. So there's there's Half-Life, then there's Opposing Force, then Blue Shift, then Black Mesa, I guess. There's a lot of great side content. There's a lot of great side content to consider once we're done with this, but no it's all main content! great side content to consider once we're done with this but no it's all main content but we'll god damn it at between Alex in the episodes and whatever other spinoffs one step at a time required or not required they will be done well I'll let you know one step at a time one's up for up for yeah opposing force opposing forces okay okay yeah no opposing force. Opposing forces, okay, okay. Yeah, no. Opposing force is fantastic.

It's also what got Gearbox their start, which is weird. Oh, you used to talk about opposing force quite a bit. It's great. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I remember that. It's like an old-fashioned expansion pack. It's like, hey, do you want to play more half-life levels with some different guns? Here you go. And then counter- Wait, that fact guy still- And then-

I still- I've- hell yeah, good for him. So there was hope for us yet. Wait, where'd you get that from then? Check to our comments. There was a video of the guy looking at a big pizza, and then I clicked the comment, and somebody was like,

did you know he died? And I was like, oh, that's terrible. And that was that. And then I moved on with my life to look at dog videos. Well, I have looked at so many dog videos on my TikTok. I'm getting recommended like Spanish language dog videos. Yeah, that's fair. I do like, so I've hit a point where reading a comment

like the one you just described, I literally filter out its existence. Like I don't believe anything. You know what I've discovered? I have a like a really strange weakness to I will believe that anyone has died like specifically. Did you hear so and so died? I'll go, oh, that's terrible. And I just won't question it even a little. I need two sources immediately. Immediately I need two sources. Jesus Christ. Yeah. Anyway, so that all continues. So yeah, we're going to be working our way back through the rest of the Tekken 8 story.

We're going to be playing the rest of Half-Life 2 and some other stuff. I'll post on the schedule for Willie vs. This Week on Twitch and on YouTube. I, God, it sucks that there's the fucking Sacred and Terrible air bump twice in a row. But I'll let you know when we when we When we're coming back there What I'm gonna I'm doing my best to work our way back to it Guys, well, he isn't me just because he bumped it two weeks in a row doesn't mean it's dead That's like I like I wanted to get upset when somebody pointed that out

I'm like they were super right if I bumped something two weeks in a row. It's dead. Yeah No, that doesn't mean doesn't mean shit over here, you know, I still I have a like even more than other people I have my own internal like I I'm bothered when you guys used to start stories and not finish them I Would come back and be like, what was that story you were saying before that we got interrupted by the boss? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It bothers me so much, so I know what it's like on the other end of that. So I'm just like, no, no, I still have the bookmark in my head and I have no problem

coming back to it in a little bit, even if you're wondering. So the, you know, to the person who's every time they don't see an armored core on the schedule that goes pain. It's like oh, yeah No, I know but I'm gonna come I'm gonna come play it. It's fine that reminds me I was like I forget what I was doing. I was on my like stupid bullshit. This is like from five six years ago This is a conversation. I just remembered I was talking to my FF 14 buddies and I was just talking my stupid bullshit and being annoying and One of my friends asked me is like Pat what the fuck you talking about fucking what are you talking explain?

And I went hey man, just listen, okay? Just give me a second and listen and like the room calm down And I just went back to grinding and didn't say anything And they lost their fucking mind they went crazy Yeah, yeah, it's good It's good. Oh powerful strong bit. Oh felt really good strong bit You know that moment right before someone like they're like They're their head is kind of bobbing and they're like, uh

That's your moment of power right there, yeah, you need the sound of keys clicking and about nice moving Yeah, you need the sound of keys clicking and nice moving. Anyway, so yeah, that's all slated. And that and more, you know? I'm gonna make everybody happy. Everyone, there will not be a single person disappointed with the schedule for you all to have. I'm disappointed! Never, not even one.

Also, there was enough in just the seeing a, I'm the Vortigaunts, aka the Galungas. Yeah. I saw one being a janitor and immediately I'm like, oh shit, storytelling, what has happened? Why are you with us in a safe- Hey, I thought you were a mindless beast. That was enslaved by a brain lord that I killed

Why are like a guy? Why are you just a guy now? Yeah, so that you know, that's that's Posing a whole lot of questions Immediately, so I'm looking forward to those answers All right Let's go through some some of what's going on. The state of play happened! It did, and uh, we touched on a lot of the big shit, but you know. Let's talk about Maximum Kojumbo. I mean, like, can we-

It's the only way I can possibly describe it. Like, we can dance around all the other shit, but at the end of the day, fucking... Death's ranting too, on the beach. other shit, but at the end of the day, fucking death stranding to on the beach. I believe out loud. The utterance was I'm going to be decoding this man's bullshit for the rest of my life. This is it. This is life now from I remember the time when we were looking at the death stranding imagery with the five floating figures now that we now know are the extinction events

and trying to figure out what any of anything meant. We now know exactly what that world is. We now know exactly how the mechanics work, what the systems are, who the players involved are and what is left to do, and we still can't figure out why that mask is fucking hands and why Higgs is the Joker now. Well, sorry to know, but I went and dug up an old drill tweet that was, I remove my I'm in court and I remove my anonymous V mask and I have the Joker makeup underneath it and everyone groans at my

bullshit perfect and I know people are saying that like it looks like more like the crow but like it's absolutely like staying pulling his mask off to have staying face paint underneath all of the John clerk Above you know I just it's why and he's doing it and he's he's you know, he's he's baking it up And then he pulls out his fucking Electric guitar Rocket red Billy red rocket Cadillac red Billy like the you like just you know whether you want to go with your your Gun grave or hibiki or high-fire rush or any electric guitar wielding

Flcl ass weapon and he's using that thing and then sliding around against a riding like and so There's a real there's a real pivot here that I think is really really interesting for the nevin mo career which is like we went through metal gear which started at an attempt to be grounded right metal gear one and that was the most impressive thing about it right was how grounded it was yes I don't mean metal gear solid I mean metal gear one and then two solid stakes And that was the most impressive thing about it, right? Was how grounded it was. Yes. I don't mean Metal Gear Solid. I mean Metal Gear 1.

And then 2 Solid Snake. And then 2. And then Metal Gear Solid like redos it. And so it's got some magic. It's got some psychics, right? And like each element of Metal Gear gets like zanier and zanier. And then you've got like man made of bees. And then you've got like nanomachines and shit like that. and then you get to MGS 5 which like it's not it's still fucking magic nonsense

But like it's it's it's it's a tone down But the little bit but I think the fact that the container of the magic bees and the angry Flaming skull is like the Cold War. Is like, oh, well, this is a mature subject that no games don't tend to get into the political atmosphere of what was happening at the time. So you can pretend to have a semblance of seriousness while having a fucking crazy B-man and the spinning guns to deflect the bees.

Right, so then we get away from that and then we go, okay, Death Stranding. Now Death Stranding was obviously from its start overtly supernatural, right? But, and despite the cojumboness of it, like those first couple of trailers were like barren landscape, baby thing, ghosts. It was like a little bit more subdued. And then eventually we got, oh, we have ghost soldiers, right? And then as we

got closer, Zanier and Zanier, and now we're playing Death Stranding, and it is actually fairly subdued for large portions of the game like most of that game is like hoofing it Yeah, I remember I remember the period where we knew that we it was post apocalyptic And we knew that it was kind of like solemn and that there was some kind of unknown Weird unknowable threat, but it wasn't even clear that it was a game about carrying boxes Right, but now we have Death Stranding 2 where you know that Death Stranding is a zany world with supernatural nonsense. And we've gone from, I'm gonna try and play it classy

and subdued and Hollywood to too much is never enough. Right? Like Death Stranding trailers, you're like, what's going on? What could that be? And instead, death stranding twos trailer,

you're what the fuck is that? What is that? No, what is that? What is that? What is that? And what is that? And what has never been more apparent, and we've known this for our entire lives

It doesn't matter what the actual context is even when you find it out It's all about that. Did you like it when you saw the hands as the mask? Did you like it when you saw the pores? I have a lead to the ink You saw the pores lead to the ink squirting out. I think it's genuine answer for one of your questions as to why Fragile has a hand mask. The second hands? It's because they're called second hands. Second hands, yeah.

And that makes it cool when you smoke. Yes, sure. With your second hand smoke. Great, great, totally. So and also, it means that you can have her do a hear no evil, see no evil, speak no evil. No evil, no, we're the three monkeys. Yes, it doesn't matter what the context is.

When you see the thing and you go, oh my God, that is so cool or crazy, what is that? That's all he wants. That's all he wants is that moment. He wants you to look. He wants you to see the man floating into the sky and then needing to stab himself and then the giant unknown the Titan in the background and you go ah and that's it that's all he wants one here's

one here's one you ready you ready mm-hmm mm-hmm guitar as a weapon right it's an axe because guitars are axes of course right yes but it's an axe because guitars are axes. Of course. Right? Yes. But it's an electric guitar. That's correct. So it shoots electricity. Yes. But, Mjolnir. It shoots electricity. What should our character play? Well, you see, he's from America. So he should play the American national anthem

when he shoots the electricity from his America guitar. Yes, correct. And also, also, here's a fun part. He has Amelie's face and hair. Does he? He does. Huh, I didn't catch that. So he's probably inhabiting her corpse,

which means he literally is America. Because, and that's how he survived the beach. Yeah. By J- Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha And the necklace as well. I didn't yeah the keep who okay. I didn't catch those details Yeah, I know the deep dive that people must have done I didn't I didn't go into the deep dives for sure cuz and that's why oh my god He walks up to you in his in his Troy Baker thick Texan accent and goes he get enough guns you can control everything same as it ever was and does a little dance

Because he's the avatar of America as villain With joke with John Clair with John Clair yeah, yeah Okay, okay cool cool And you are no longer in America mind you your job is to now connect the network Outside of which they imply So you see a desert and they talk about Like outside of the estates, so we're probably going to Mexico at the very least

Maybe Canada Maybe god damn it. I forgot about that Emily car Bullshit with the high and the car. I'm like, oh, you forgot, huh? For a second, I was like, yes, Emily versus President Bridget Strand, fucking high and car. And the car is like, oh, oh, oh, god, fuck.

All right, sorry. And it's really funny because like they even go, they even go, he even goes to the point of like looking at Sam and like it's, it's always wild to me when like the games like theme on the document is said aloud by a character. So when Troy goes, looks like you traded in that rope for a stick. I'm like, it's just out there on the page. Death Stranding 2 is not about the rope. It's about the rope and the stick.

There, that's it. As the stick is in the walk with a big stick? No. Woolly! no, come on. The first tool humans made was the stick to keep things away and protect themselves. The second tool humans made was the rope in order to bring things to them and protect them. Okay, okay. So Death Stranding one's ending, in order to bring things to them and protect them. Okay. Okay. So Death Stranding 1's ending, like the ending,

like the core thing you have to do, is you have to choose the rope over the stick. Okay, to bring things to you instead of keeping things away. Now it is time for the fucking stick. Man, yeah, okay, yeah, I forgot there's a lot There's a lot. There's a fucking lot. All right. I remember do you know I wrote tar Contains DNA so that when you smoke a cigarette you're actually puffing ghosts God

Okay, hold on I need I need to find something out and and and The in the extinction event and the dooms powers and and cliff hunger, okay, and die hard men The first one that I can find so this might just be a happy coincidence Because I doubt in April of 2023, Kojumbo watched Dracula flow and was like, I need to integrate this into the Death Stranding. I somehow doubt that. You don't know that, but you can doubt.

I mean, unless unless Norman takes a big puff and talks about how that O.G. Kush has him speak in Esperanto. And what are two things about Black China? I don't I don't know that Kojima has watched Dracula Flow. Oh man. Hey, yo, you know what's cool? And actually the thing that the, what, of all the bullshit happening, that's the Kojima shit going on or whatever, the only thing I really am like, there's Lou.

Lou's grown up a little bit. Lou's a little older, you know? Are you sure? No, but may probably. Because like part of the trailer. Was Rita was Norman? Sorry, Sam going like Lou is dead. So then what were we looking at?

I don't know, but I'll tell you one thing, Willie. Norman Reedus, a formerly funky fetus, says, are you the one who killed Lou? And then Mr. America Troy Baker goes, oh, you don't even know, do you? And then immediately gets attacked by a gigantic cyborg ninja making baby noises. Okay. So then maybe I have a sneaking suspicion.

We saw some bullshit. I have a sneaking suspicion. That the newest of the cyborg ninja gang by Kojima Productions is in fact a one year old infant. Oh boy Yeah Okay, well, how will you fucking sense the BTs now? How will you? Probably some bullshit. How will you avoid the probably some stupid bullshit? I bet

How will you avoid the void? Probably some stupid bullshit, I bet. Well, that first cutscene is so baffling, me and Paige are watching it, we're like, why are they blue? Are they ghosts in this scene? Yeah. Why? And I'm thinking it's their virtual, but the, yeah.

Well, all that aside, can't wait to just do some basic trucking. For all the what the fuck are we have? Oh, my God. For all the mind fuckery, a foot. We're going to drive some trucks and build some roads. And occasionally slide on a. They showed off a really. A ski lift huge variety of environments in that trailer.

Mountain desert. A lot more trucking to be done. Mm hmm. Terraforming almost. Yeah. And I guess like, well, the and this is the way I felt after the last game is that like the story of What I guess we'll do could just call the America family Yeah, it felt so complete because you got every angle you needed from

the ha and the car and then you got everything you needed from cliff and and and and mom and Sam and like Bibi. And it all just kind of was like a very like, it all, the way this world turned out was directly tied to you. Yeah. And then you got to the end and Die Hard Man did his Die Hard Man shit and you were like wow Right and it closed off you closed off the end of it due to you as well. So I

don't know How much I mean Kojima will just find some some more bullshit something about to go explore There is something about the games plot plot and setting that actually is a much like it's a much more reasonable transition from the old story to the new than I would have expected which is there's a line of dialogue and you see a bunch of them in the thing which is okay they put it you remember they put out that DLC that had a lot more gunplay and was a lot more like Metal Gear Oh, okay. Okay. There's an update. Yeah, there's an update, right?

and There's there's more guns in this shit like Sam's got like a gun and he walks into the gun room you see a bunch of fucking guns Like assault rifles and shotguns on the wall, right? And you're like, okay, shooting guns was like an absolute dead ass last resort in Death Stranding. But here, like, oh, okay. So how do they get away with it?

Is they go, well, why the fuck would there be people out there and porters? Just get robots to do it, man. Like why the hell would you have human beings traversing these distances? There's more important shit to do and we can already cover that ground with the robots. And also, you can just shoot a robot.

And you want anti-BT weapons more than you want, fucking just anti-human weapons, really. Yeah, but no, so what I was trying to say, I guess, is that like, at the end of like Metal Gear Solid 1, you're like, oh, wow, cool game, more to this story. But there were some ghosts, and there was that psychic guy shit happened. But like, it was about nukes and sneaking around. End of Metal Gear 2, you're like, whoa, the future fucking sucks. Can't wait for it. But also, you know, there's a new generation that is that is coming up

and they're going to have their own. They're going to have their own problems and they're going to have to solve them themselves and, you know, we can only guide you so much. But enough of us old men trying to tell the future what to do. And then you beat three and it like kind of just goes all the way back to the past. And you're like, that's why those old men were trying to tell you what to do. They had their reasons and they were good reasons. Also, here's exactly who those old men were, you know, like we're just yeah.

And you line up all the shots to complete the timeline. And then you get to four and you're like, I don't know how to end this story. But my point, you hit the end of the timeline in three and then it says the start of les enfants terribles. And then you're like, ah, and we're done and we're complete. And I feel, and it's not that there isn't more to tell, but I felt that the way I felt at the end of Snake Eater

was the way Death Stranding ended in a way. Yeah! No, I gotcha. You're right. It all- it was all wrapped up in a neat little package. Very, very well-wrapped up. And here's the thing, we talked about this at length before it came out. Which is, the whole game of Death Stranding looked like Kojima, like hoodwinked Sony. game of Death Stranding looked like Kojima, like hoodwinked Sony, because it was like some weird ass indie idea for a game that was as weird as it could possibly go that

was given the most budget of anything ever. And you're like, oh, you know, this is gonna do like dog shit. It's too weird. It's too boring. Right? But the game is written like I'm never gonna get to make another one of these. Like, this is probably gonna be the only Death Stranding that ever exists. If I get to one and done, I'm saying everything I wanted to say, and I'm talking about gourds. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

But, and two is like, I can't believe they're letting me make another one. Ha ha! Yeah, I mean Kojima is after all half man half clout right yeah he is he is the walking embodiment of it um and the fact that he then ends that bit zooming out on our goddamn Hollywood set to show you that I have arrived I am here in my final destination I'm surprised he didn't just fade away well you see Willie that Hollywood set wasn't actually about Death Stranding.

No, it was about Fizz Int, because it's not just Microsoft that's going to get their own little thing with OD, but Sony's going to get their own sort of sneaking action game. Oh, what, a sneaking espionage action game? Oh, what a sneaking espionage action game? How many people work at Koji Pro? Can they head? I guess they have the budget if given to fucking do whatever. I think O.D. and sneaky action espionage game is very far away because the idea of like a second major title on the scale of the way that

stranding was built is nuts. But now we have the idea of three. I'm like, Oh my God, like, you know, we've seen a lot of spiritual successors and stuff like that, but it is still kind of astonishing at like the audacity of a guy who went, I am so sick of making Metal Gear games for like 20 years. Oh, God. And do Death Stranding, which is kind of like Metal Gear. And he said, and many times I have many more ideas.

And then essentially go back to Kettledeer or settle near. Oh he did he's like I have all these other things I have stuff I want to do a catch-up to me about this creative and he had he had death stranding and he had OD or PT he had PT somebody walked up to him with a check with a bunch of zeros on it and said hey man what else you got? What about a soldier? Who sneaks around and fights a super powered team of people or? Or it was like hey, what else you got you did your death stranding and here's your two you did your PT And here's your OD what else you got going on and he's like

And just like fucking I like I like think I Like to think he's way Sony man and said flipping through the cards like that Raven Do you have any handhelds coming out where I can make you a game or you you go outside to use the Sun to fight Vampire and they were like no we don't have any handhelds It is done fuck okay Shit come and knock on our door Come on knock on our door

Yeah, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep great great Will who will be cast as our leading, uh, espionage spy man? Will it be Timothy Chalamet? Will it be any of the people that have rolled through the and proposed with Ludens over years if they want to go absolutely gone so bat shit disrespectful it should be Kurt Russell actual Kurt Russell yeah the man himself like just like yeah yeah, no I'm in the eye open Oh drop trow open-ass dump right on everything

Right on everything Kojima Konami could hope for that's that's yeah, that is the ultimate What are you gonna say? It's him. It's his face. It is it is in fact Kurt Russell. Oh man, yeah. Or granted, or Russell did turn down the voice of snake in the past. Sure, but that was in the past before Kojima was friends with Totoro-san and Mads Mikkelsen and fucking everyone else before he was in. Now he's in, he's got someone, I bet you he has the cell phone number, you know? He's just waiting to form the right text to send. So somebody in the chat pointed out

something really interesting. So Kurt Russell declined because he, because John Carpenter wasn't involved and he thought that was kind of disrespectful. I see, I see. So in order to get Kurt Russell in on a project you would need to get John Carpenter in on a project and John Carpenter famously doesn't give a fuck about anything other than smoking weed playing Xbox and

making money. Makes sense, checks out sounds good. But John Carpenter fucking plays video games all day. That's that he does. He's a famous Hollywood director. Hell yeah. And he's gone to the place in his life. He's old. All he does all day is smoke weed and play video games. So Kojima was like, John Carpenter, do you want to work on this fucking thing with me? He would probably say yes. There's a possibility. There is a possibility. Okay, I like that. Those are good odds. You know how like fucking George Miller is right there in their fucking ship and

look at it pull out ghosts out of the ocean and if worse comes to worse and he can't get that hookup then he could always again now that he's in now that Kojima's in he could just be like ayo Drake can you talk to Kurt for me and Drake's like yeah man I man, I got you. And that's it. And he's in. He's got all the fucking, he's got the Rolodex spinning. He's just, oh God.

Not to mention the movie as well. They announced the Fizz Int movie alongside the project that is the game, which is not the Death Stranding movie, which is also a project going on. Let's just take it one step at a time okay? No! 18 steps at a time you can't stop me doing it all he's celebrating his 40th year in the video game industry he's anyway god bless I whatever the fuck is happening. I, I can't think, I can't think of another creator in any medium that has spent their whole career sitting on the dividing line between unmitigated genius and complete embarrassing hack shit. Like just, it's just teetering between the two for decades.

And I think the reason why is because from the first day he walked into video games, he went, ugh, they're not movies. And he carried that energy for 40 years. For 40 years he went, yeah, but they're not movies though. It's one of those things where you talk about like, you know, video game devs have a inferiority complex to film and you'll see even now devs will be like, oh man, we made it so much, we just worked so hard

on the cut scenes, it's like an incredible film, blah, blah, blah. And like you get this feeling from last of us that like the TV show was actually what they really wanted the whole time. And that making a video game was like kind of beneath them. And Kojima has been saying, dude, I love movies so much, everything should be like movies.

And then makes the most interesting games with the weirdest game stuff in them. That's nothing like movies. But he, but like, yes, and he, yes, he loves games, but he's bringing as much Hollywood as he can with him and cramming it into video games. I don't think Kojima loves movies. I think he loves the movie industry.

That could be it. Like, you know how like that could be a power world? Yeah, some ways more fun than power actual power. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Mm hmm. Mm hmm. Right. It's not about the film. It's about the table read. He wants to be at the goddamn table read. Absolutely. Like, I would not be surprised if it comes out like in 15 years. Like, hey, Mr. Kajima,

what's your favorite part of making video games? And he goes, I love it when we're doing the auditions for the actors and they come in and they do the they they they act. And I'm like oh That's my favorite actor from a kid Tarantino movie. Oh, yeah. I mean dude You know that him just hanging out with Guillermo and talking Was all he wanted out of that and the fact that they were he showed up as a cameo is just to make some official reason For those hangouts. Oh yeah, it's like, hey, I really loved Mad Max. George Miller, do you wanna hang out

and get scanned into my video game? Yeah, it's like, hey, do you wanna be- Hey Guillermo, did you have a movie that won an Oscar with Pinocchio? You're right, Pinocchio is cool! I'll put a fucking puppet in my game! Do you wanna be friends? I mean, do you wanna work on this project

that I think you would find very interesting? What's it about? What do you want it to be about? What do you- what do you like? Hideo Kojima 40 years of a film nerd years of a film nerd looking over his thick crimmed glasses as he slowly pushes a piece of paper across the desk. And Guillermo del Toro or George Miller opens it up and it goes, do you like me?

Yes. No. Kojima is that Kojima is that anime north going? Hey, can I interview you? And then you're in the Hollywood's like sure and then you meet and it's like hey, so how's it going? What's up? I I got you this gunblade would you like? Well to like this To bring it to a more recent point woolly it's actually like, oh my God, that's that's Guillermo del Toro.

I should say hi. Hey Guillermo, I'm really a big fan of your work. Oh, thanks. You know, I am. I I I make video games. That's cool, man. No, no, it's like my job. I make video games. That's cool, man. No, no, it's like my job They're like movies, you know That's that's cool He made just like that on the podcast he made it out. He made it. He's in Hollywood.

Incredible. 40 years. What a legacy. It really says a lot that like this this like Japanese nerd this guy who's all the way on the other side of the planet who's an unhinged amiraboo, right? I'm a director too Like just fucking I can't sing I can't dance I can't speak English. I can't act How am I gonna fucking hang out with Hollywood celebrities? I don't know and

he just fucking clawed his ass for decades. And now he's there. Oh, man. Yeah, I just I will I will root forever. It's like this is this is this is what Jeff is trying to protect, right? This is what Keely sees and has sworn his life to defend. I just had to flash in my mind of like teenage Hideo wearing his fucking faux silk SpongeBob shirt faux silk sponge bob shirt telling somebody how fucking stupid they are for watching King of the Hill with the dub just Japanese boom hour just isn't the same you don't understand it's not the same hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah Man. All right. All right. Okay, so yes, there was that. But a couple other things occurred.

We got to see a little bit more of Dragon's Dogma 2 with the action trailer. So, and that's one of those bits where when I'm seeing it and like, I'm like, oh man, yeah, that action is really fucking intense. It's like, oh yeah, it's Itzuno, right, right, right, Itzuno, yes, yes, yes, totally. And they showed up, so there was a weird moment where they showed off a character using a bunch of completely incompatible skills from multiple classes.

Oh. And everyone's heart jumped up in there, oh, style switch, oh! And then like, no, no, it's not style switching. That would be completely broken in the Dragon's Dog Mode system. It would be too much. Would it be job switching, almost? Yeah, it'd be job switching, or something like that. So what it actually is, is a specialty vocation

which has worse stats than all the others. It is physically weaker than all of the other jobs, but it can equip anything from anything. Okay, okay, yeah. So Dragon's Dogma is, Expert. Dragon's Dogma is a system of like

nearly exclusively hard counters. So like that thing is only weak to ice. You better have ice to deal with that thing. This thing only dies from blunt damage. And in Dragon's Dog, The Dark Horizon, there were some enemies that certain classes just could not hurt in any way. Whoa.

So like metal golems were doable for a lot of the classes, but magic archers who attacked explicitly and exclusively with magic arrows, couldn't damage the metal golems because they couldn't break the seals that power it. That sounds incredibly annoying. That's why it's important that you're a party of four all the time. Dragon's Dogma, you are never not a party of four. So you want to vary it out.

Right. They had daggers. Yeah. So this is one of those fun things where somebody explains to me how I'm wrong, but they're actually forgetting the edge case that I'm using as my example. So yes, if they use their daggers, the magic archcher could in fact kill a Metal Golem, except it had to be the Metal Golem in Bitter Black Isle, because the Metal Golem that's mandatory that you fight as part of the story inside the Witch's Forest actually has a fucking medallion that's way out of reach, and you can only hit it with either an arrow, or if you're lucky, a fighter that has the vocation leap skill and gets you all The way up there, but that's hard as fuck. So yes, there is a metal golem

That you cannot kill. Oh my god in dark arisen if you are using the magic archer. I Wish you had glasses you could fucking straighten after that one. Jesus Christ Anyway point is freelancer goes listen You're not gonna be able to be as strong as the other ones But you can make a character that has the best Ranger skill the best warrior skill the most useful mage skill Etc just available at all times etc. Just available at all times. Okay. I assume it's one of those bits where if you if you know the system in and out, the disadvantage is still not at all, is nothing compared to the advantage you get from having

more freedom. So the best example I can bring up for you is there's a there's a lizard type enemy that's like a little dinosaur guy, They're called Saurians, right? They're weak to fire, they're weak to ice, and they're weak to bladed damage because you can cut their tails off, right? So if I was going to do a quest and my pawn, because they've been on that quest before, tells me, you're gonna fight a lot of Saurians here.

I can grab Freelancer and go, I want the warrior skill that attacks with a gigantic bladed cleave. I want a fire spell and I want an ice spell. And I am just a rotating set of hard counters to the enemy I'm going to deal with. Instead of, I'm a warrior so I have slashing kits and hopefully I brought a wizard with me that has fire or hopefully I brought a wizard with me that has ice. But you still want to roll with your full party because you yeah, you always want to roll with your full party The game is exclusively balanced around you having a full party

They're like I mean there's monsters that can pick you up and you've been picked up and now you have been turned off So hope someone's coming to save you. Okay Yeah, no very cool. I don't know. Spat vaping? What the, no. They also, yeah, I don't know if there's anything else that's set out that you wanted to bring up with Dragon's Dogma, but just to roll through the list.

They put out a preview of there is a very, very hidden dungeon run by the Sphinx and the Sphinx. So finding the Sphinx is supposedly going to be almost impossible. It's not the first thing you fight in. No, never mind. No, you're thinking about Mantricor or Chimera. Yeah, yeah, Mattacor. Yeah. So apparently finding the Sphinx at all

is going to be damn near impossible. And there is a job hidden behind dealing with the Sphinx. And the Sphinx will ask you a riddle, and you will have one shot to answer the riddle correctly. And then it will auto save on your single save file. So hopefully you got it. Nice. They put that out as part of a preview to be like, listen. Okay, fuck you.

We are going to put a lot of really weird shit. They talked about how fast travel in the original game was hard, like really hard. And then in Dark Arisen, they toned it down to be more forgiving. And they explained that they have actually gone back and re-hardened the fast travel by making fast travel bordering on impossible

because it's much more interesting to have cool things happen to you when you're traveling and the games don't do enough to make traveling interesting. Huh. Okay. I see the reasoning. Fast traveling is convenient, but you do cut out the map entirely and make it a series

of objectives, so sure. Like Dragon's The Original, not Dark Arisen, has the most interesting traversal from place to place of any game I've ever played, because it takes a long time and it's hard and in the second to third parts of the trip, minor threats become major threats, because you're worn down. But if, okay, the thing is, is if I'm doing menial busy work going from point A to point B, and that's my motivation, I hate it. Well, the main thing that solves this is that the usual menial busy work that you do

in Dragon's Dogma is fight a bunch of cool ass monsters with somewhat Devil May Cry party combat. Right. So rules. Right. Do rules. Right. Do you ever hit a point late on where you're like, I've seen it all and I know what we're doing. Yes.

And by that point, you would have built up the fast travel resources to skip around a little bit more. Okay. Like Dragon's Dogma's fast travel system is based around what's called a port crystal Basically the main city you can always fast travel to but you need to use an extremely expensive item Okay, and it's a single use Only expensive item and then you use a port crystal is something that you it's a literal fast travel point that you have to Pick up and carry to where you want it to live. Oh, wow. And bring it all the way out there and then drop it. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

And then you will still need to use the really expensive item to get in between. But when you get to the end of the game, you will have placed them and you will have more money. So now the moment I hear about the hard locked save decisions, though, it's like, okay, well, uh, we'll see what the fucking cloud and offline mode has to say about that. Yeah.

That's, I mean, listen, I, I'm, I'm, I'm maybe, maybe, maybe, maybe, Hey, listen, maybe, maybe, maybe there's a cool trick you could do in Dragon's Dog, my dark arisen. If, uh, if because of that one save file and some shoddy programming. So you see, you know, if you lend your pawn out, they get a rift crystals and that's like the currency for getting strong pawns. Well, I see. If you had a save file with your pawn that you used when the game came out and

you just didn't play it for a couple years and then you deleted that save file without loading it and then made a new character and Then went to make your pawn Because there's only one save slot The game would go. Oh your pawn just came back from two and a half years worth of adventures. What? And would just load in every single piece of information the game has in your pawn, as well as millions of rift crystals. Because it's from online and it's not synced up to your file.

And it's going, this is the data for on slot one. Oh my god Jesus yeah So whenever like so on your first playthrough this doesn't matter because obviously it's your first playthrough But whenever you go back to play Dragon's Dogma Make sure to start a new game before loading your old one to check Wow because then it'll think that the pawn that you made as part of your new game is actually the same pawn that came back after multiple years away.

It's a fucking, it's a reality time capsule. It's a digital locker even, that you can get your resources for. That's nuts. What a goofy bug. Cool. Okay. That game's gonna be great. There's a bit more of stellar blade

showed off. Before I move away, I do want to address somebody. Somebody said, Pat is making this game sound really bad when I was talking about the fast travel. Dragon's Dogma is a really good example of something looking like shit on paper, but limitations are there to increase its strengths. Trust me on this, Dragon's Dogma 1 and Dark Origin are really great. Flawed, but really great. So when I hear about we've made travel much more interesting to accommodate less fast travel, I go, cool, I'm excited to do less fast travel. I am so sick of RPGs in which all I do is fast travel from the fucking 30% mark onwards because going everywhere is boring.

There's Starfield. Hashtag sponsored Starfield. Yeah, no, if combat is a joy the entire time, then that in and of itself is a fantastic incentive. that in and of itself is a fantastic incentive. Stellar Blade got to see a bit more of that with the pre-order trailer. And as I watched it, I kind of was I'm like, this is pretty cool. Look at that. You go got the young take him in the flesh showing up for that one.

And I kind of go like, well, it does make me want to play near. It does, doesn't it? It makes me want to play near on a matter. It does. The the vibes are overwhelming. And I guess not not much else to it until it's it's in hand I suppose but down to the the the floating little little you know robot and the seats you take in the in the crashed junk Construction what's what what kind of gigantic asses are we talking about here? I? mean the shiniest Most humongous heungtae Kim artwork level asses.

So, they are reflective. We focused on the right things. I mean, if there were somebody to take on the assignment, that is, let's do our own version of 2B's ass, I think they found the right man for the job. to do our own version of 2B's ass. I think they found the right man for the job. Yeah, we saw Sonic X Shadow Generations, which I kind of had a moment where I was like, how come we haven't seen Shadow go back

to old school Sonic style and just be a little like Sonic Mania style sprite except with gun sticking out? How have we not done that yet? That needs that. Say that Sega needs to get on that or let that happen. It's because he sucks. I want I want old come at me. Shoot me.

Shoot me now. Fuck. No. He would shoot you, but there are no guns anywhere in this trailer. So. Godzilla cross, Dave Dave the diver. Weird. What a cool indie game to. Yeah. To correlate. It's a crossover with Godzilla.

Good. I mean, between that and like something like dredge, I would like, like that's a fun crossover. Having Godzilla show up in that type of setting is fun. Good, good bit. Good cross. Minus one. The announced trailer for V Rising, which I realized a little irk I have, which is like, I know-

Well, I got so fucking confused by what you just said. You were talking about the Godzilla shit, and then you said minus one, and I thought you were implying that Godzilla was some kind of hyper-Aryan No Because of your emotes No That is not at all what I meant

um Jesus Christ Numbers are now tainted You've ruined numbers, Woolly! Hey man. The system runs itself at this point. Oh no. V-Rising, I realize the little thing I have is like, when a game has a

zoomed out, like, isometric kind of view. If it's in 3D, I want a close look at some point to start with and then a pull out. If I just I kind of just want to because I can't see the detail. I can't see what the characters are. This game is emulating blood omen. Like you see Kane blood omen or like some artwork or I'm like, I just like show me some artwork or show me like something to see the character. Cause I'm like, oh, it's actually pretty funny. This game is like very similar to Pal world.

Oh yeah. Yeah. So a V rising is like my funniest sponsorship that I ever did because my friends are playing V rising after Valheim and I was like, man, that game looks really cool. So I did a stream of it and I finished the stream and then checked my email and got a sponsorship offer to stream V rising. Yeah.

And then streamed it the next day and was like, yeah, well, yeah, yeah. It's super fun and the reason, the only reason I stopped playing it is because it didn't have controller support. But now it's coming to consoles. Okay. So it's just gonna have controller support. Yeah, I, I, anyway, I just, I, I don't like when I can't get a good look at the character in something. It just like I'm like I can I'm seeing some details on the clothing or whatever.

I'm like, oh, yeah, like I feel like every trailer, even in games where the camera zooms out, it starts out up closer. It'll show you a close up cut scene or something like that and then pull out. Well, you see, Willie, this game actually is kind of like Diablo with that that perspective. I'm I'm not fucking insane shit. Many genres do use that that perspective after all. do use that perspective after all. We saw the Konami stuff and then we saw Judas, the new Ken Levine. And yeah, the BioShock vibes were quite present right off the bat. And you know what? I mean, yeah, it's the guy. You guy you're allowed to you know do that I

Don't know What to make of any of the things we saw there, but there was a moment of like ooh, that's a pretty in-game model. I suppose So is there a release date for Judas set somewhere? Let's see so while you're looking at April 20, 25, April 20, 25. Okay. So I think this might be cynical, but I would like to remind someone, everyone that games a year and a half away, right? That means, well you said you don't know what to make of the trailer. You don't have to. Because this is a guy who has put out

like multiple trailers which are 100% fake for games that later came out. There were multiple Bioshock infinite trailers and gameplay demonstrations, which were entirely fake. So when you look at the Judas trailer, I go, there's no guarantee that a single element present will actually be in a game that comes out. For some of the, you know, just with infinite,

it's all, every time there's always that thought of like, there's stuff in it that was like an interesting premise that could have, that was cool, but if it were, I guess explored or done or used in any way, you know There are things about about it like Like I think What you just said the strangest thing it's like Boschock infinite had things that could have been good if they were used If they were used probably like I think like Songbird was a cool thing that was

just not at all a part of gameplay in any way shape or form it had no effect outside of just it like Songbird was a really cool piece of concept or if they technically put into the cutscene. If you remove all cutscenes it doesn't exist right it's one of those bits were like, man, that I wish that was more than nothing. And, um, yeah, and even the even like the setting, the concept of Columbia, like stuff like that, where you're like, OK, like the, you know, the, the, the, again, the art of what that was, you know? Yeah. Anyway, just it's a fucking Bioshock infinite argument. Also, like it's really great that like in the in the time after a Bioshock infinite sure came out, we found out that Ken Levine

is a terrible manager. Like in terms of being a studio head, like he is an absolute buffoon and mismanaged that that dev studio into the dirt. So excited for this new one. Yeah. I'm just thinking back like there's a, there's a play whatever. There's a plot element even. No, what you're saying is really, it's true, but it's also deeply funny

Yeah Because I'm like I'm like even like I can even think of like something plot a plot element wise that I thought was cool was like The that was again just not at there was like instead of coming to a conclusion It didn't the idea where If you remember the whole bit with like Booker and the past and stuff like that, right? Yeah, so like the idea of like Booker being haunted by the past of the stuff at Ed Wounded Knee Yeah, sure and and like going to and there being like of the baptism moment and it's like here's a fair Here's a branch where one person gets baptized and then goes on to pretend that their sins never existed

And they never did anything wrong and thus can be complicit in the most horrendous shit because Living guilt-free and the other who lives with the weight of everything and never moves forward because they're too stifled by it, right? And that and that and those being the only two potential outcomes of that one kind of moment is an interesting thing to present I'd be really way more interesting in a game that didn't have the subtitle infinite right and if there if there was a point to get to you, which is about like finding a way to accept what you've done and move forward without ignoring it entirely and pretending it's been lifted or letting it just drown out your fucking existence, you know, there's something else to that. But it's the it's the thought of the idea

and then there's no follow-through. And so on. So anyway, yeah. And then every version of, hair's a cool idea, but then where does that go? You know, here's the, yeah. Ken Levine's long-term legacy on game development and the video game industry development and the video game industry is that he is responsible for the direct creation of the vast majority of digital pornography technology. There you go. Because he went out and said, please do not draw pornography of Elizabeth. That's my daughter.

It's like my daughter. Don't do it and and like a wide variety of Animation technologies were invented to fuck that character in defiance Widgetimately owes some of its success to Ken Levine I Some of its success to Ken Levine. I mean, look, the Vox populized spoke and they said, we want, we want Lizporn. Can I, oh man, I gotta find that

Bioshock Infinite Tumblr post. I laugh every time. Which one now? Oh, I gotta, ah, come on, come on, come on, come on. Yeah, wait a second. Bioshock Infinite. Hit X to say racism is good. Bioshock Infinite. Hit Y to say racism is bad.

Player, racism is bad. Booker stares at the gun in his hand for a long time and says, racism goes both ways. Then kills the only black character in the game who has a name. I Sky racism is bad Sky nationalism goes too far Socialist uprising

What about both sides? It took this satirical shit ass tumblr post from 2016 to make me realize the Daisy Fitz. In a game about black and white, like white on black racism, like the only black person with the name is Daisy Fitzroy and you shoot her in the face. Oh man. And you shoot her in the face because she is so crazed with race hatred she's about to kill a white child. But that's okay because you tossed the baseball earlier.

That's true. Right? Oh, I'm my mistake. Elizabeth stabs her. Can Levine surrogate daughter Elizabeth stabs Daisy Fitzroy? Cool cool cool for sure for sure for sure. No doubt no doubt no doubt Yeah, anyway and Then is it about the uprising or is it about time fuckery? It doesn't know what it's about. Or... Alright, alright, listen, listen.

You could literally go on all day, and in fact Matthew Matosis has famously done so, but I think the only real criticism I need to level against Boshak Infinite is that the person writing it doesn't know what the word infinite actually even means. writing it doesn't know what the word infinite actually even means. Like at like genuinely does not know what the word infinite means. Because of the ending. And because of the end because of the idea on a understanding of infinite, but that is incorrect because of the concept of killing every version of infinite versions of you, except for one. Well, not not even that.

Okay. The ending is like, well, we went back in time and stopped the branch point. And it's like, but it's infinite. There are now an infinite series of realities in which you didn't go back. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, all the in Elizabeth state, the hat, all the, all the Elizabeth hands reached in and they, they all got every single one of them got you and they stopped you. Now, now there's go back. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, all the Inverlizibus, they had all the, all the Elizabeth hands reached in and they, they all got every single one of them got you and they stopped you. Now, now there's only one. Infinite doesn't mean like infinite from like a branch. Infinite is just like every direction forever spiraling

outward forever. Shut up. No, the Lutesses have, have calculated it actually. They figured it out. It's fine. Dude, when when they go to see the Chinese guy to get the guns and they get there and he's dead and they're like, what if we switch to a different reality where he's alive and then they get there and they're and like, cool, We can bring the guns back now, but there's like 40 tons of guns and it's just the two of them and they're like, how do we bring this back?

And also we're in a different reality and they're just go, oh no, and it's the stupidest thing in the world. The stakes Have never been higher have never been lower It's like I fucking went to a different timeline to get you a sandwich Yeah, brought that timelines woolly a sandwich and you went what the fuck is this and then we just continue moving on We just we move past it. It's holy shit But but like I said, there's there's bits of like oh, I like this creative idea if only we just fucking do shit with it

anyways, all right Judas not confirmed for April 2025, but according to some I think like like a stock update or some some information people were able to there is a real possibility That game doesn't come out Metro awakening Yeah, okay cool. Yeah, that's that's an obvious fit for a VR Because you got the the mask and the and the in the watch and the crank Well, the thought is though every time I like, even if it is like a good fit,

it's like, but is this going to sell the PlayStation VR to is this is this like because they desperately need things to move that off the shelf. What do you know? What is the what is the V of the PS VR seller? I it's also on steam. What is the what is the v other the psvr seller? I It's also on steam Well, there you go. Like there's there's like God the the psvr seller thing is is Done it's done And you know and the and the controller thing came out, right? The

screen controller thing? Anyway. Yeah, that came out. That came out, right? Christmas, I want to say. Yeah, okay, all right. Yeah, no, the PSVR seller is the Dick Sucker 5000. Like, that's what it is okay whatever uh horse your wife crawl into your pit and just give us 399 like that's it um yo fucking how about how about team ninja on their kick right rise of the Ronin coming out the same fucking day straight oh Yeah, I didn't catch that Jesus. Hey, you know what's coming out the day before huh? horizon Why is it always horizon every time this fucking game?

Jesus Christ oh Man Well, it's funnier every time Yeah, I like I Guess it's if it were okay rise in the Ronin and dragons dogma are like They're far enough apart from each other despite the right Ronin looks like way of the samurai 5 Yeah, so I'm saying they evolved from the bones of a fantasy and you know concept

But like they're going in completely different directions at this point But like dogma and horizon are not going in totally different directions They are actually functionally very similar Um in in in rise though like just the traversal being you this goofy ass like Spider-Man Secchi rowing your way through fucking yeah, what up fuck that is we look so wild But yeah, I think I guess just like they've just hit their stride, right? Like they're pretty much just going to do we're the Neo, Strangers of Paradise, Woe Long, this game company from now on. They've succeeded in making themselves an identity that people

like and will buy from that is not Ninja Gaiden or Dead or Alive. And they will quality of life their way up every time to building on the back of the last thing So it's it's barely recognizable by the time it comes around from just how much extra shit is in it Yeah, no, it's cool. I would like to imagine that the stuff that happened with Neo and Neo 2 I don't know for sure because I haven't gone through the you know the others But I'm hoping that throughout the case of Strangers of Paradise and throughout the case of woe long quality of life continued to improve and then now Rise of the Ronin will benefit from all of

the above is what I would hope based on the way it was going with Neo before. But yeah. This seems like they're like like their attempt at like, like a broader larger action game then. Like their Ghost of Tsushima, whereas Neo was always, Neo and Molong were always like, souls adjacent.

Is there an A Team B Team thing going on with Team Ninja? Is that real or is that just some bullshit? Like did different teams work on different titles for them? Maybe. Well, along was the B team. Yeah, I could feel it. Hmm. Okay. Well, long was the B team? Yeah, I could feel it Okay, because wasn't there like a wasn't there a whole thing where like that hold the Dark Souls the from soft B team thing was like like a lie

Oh, no, I Thought so the Dark Souls B team was not only not a lie It was found out that two had to restart development because the B team did a bad job. Okay, so that was real. Okay. Yeah, okay. And I mean, you know, a couple other things, but I don't think anything else that we particularly Okay, don't you?

Zendler zone zero foam stars whatever you know that oh man I talked about you when Zendler zone zero came up because I'm like man You know what's the most frustrating shit in the world, and I'm not even you I can't even imagine how you fucking feel about it people point at some fucking gacha fucking genre shit that you don't give a fuck about or the near raids and they go, man this is gonna be the one that gets woolly in with a ha ha ha. He said he didn't care but I'm gonna, oh he's gonna care and then I'm go ooooh and I'm like you're all fucking kidding yourselves. Every trailer I've seen has been stylish as fuck. I have, you know, I have not touched any of them,

and I don't know that I ever will, but I will say that if you are gonna steal my money, if you are gonna rob my wallet, at least be stylish while you're doing it. That I will be honest and say the best chance you have is to be stylish while you fucking run my shit. Just like I'll see in a thread like, best chance you have is to be stylish while you fucking run my shit. Just like I'll see in a thread like,

oh, you think Don trail is going to be the thing that gets willing to 14? I'm like, you are all high on crack. I'll get into whatever when the time is right. I've known this man for 20 years now and you can't get him to like anything he's not initially interested in. The more you push me, the more annoyed I get. I will say that depends on how to as well. The more it starts to just be like I can't fucking escape this pressure. I just want to do something else.

I have a version of that, but it's with food we're like Page will like be like she'll be making something and she'll pull out something and she'll be like try this and I go What is it? She'll go just try it and I'm like I'm not going to put the fact that you didn't tell me Before I put it in my mouth. I will now not know Just tell me what it is. I'll still eat it, but you have to tell me what it is first.

You know what it is? It is, there's something that you are familiar with and I can describe here in that unfortunately most of you probably will, can't relate to, but also it's a blessing. Oh no. No, it's real simple. You've never seen a flanderized version of yourself in front of you created,

and then pointed at and yelled at. You're looking at a- It's interesting. The flanderized ghost of you- It's violent. stands before you, and you're watching the world interact with it, and it's a bizarre baffling experience that you'll never have.

How you respond in kind is like, it can only make things worse the more and more the louder the voices get. That's the only way I can describe it, you know? I don't wish it upon anyone. I was mean to that guy on that Wendy's though. Shhh. That's my favorite parasocial copypasta, is I ran into so-and-so at like a Wendy's or like a Burger King.

Yeah. Like a really awkward, like somewhat aggressive interaction that doesn't have anything dramatic in it. He told the cashier to scan it again and to watch out for Inference and he looked back at me with a wink. That's the one. Inference. Anyways, state of play, there's going to be another one tomorrow covering

some Final Fantasy seven stuff. Oh yeah. Um, the demo just leaked out. Okay. Well, they, uh, they fucked up and put the trailer up early. That says demo available now. I. Is it just me or like between the, the last trailer and like the stuff we're seeing're seeing I'm we're now hitting that point of we're seeing too much I Don't I don't want to see a whole super long Expose a actually on on ff7 or two. I'm just I just want to play it. I'm just I'm looking for a really okay I'm kind of hitting that point. I am a I'm a whore for information. Okay. I will guzzle it up. I

Like I want to I want to savor what's left at this point. The demo is the nibbleheim section, which is Okay, the cut out because it's probably the tutorial It could it would it be the entirety of it probably huh Because we were talking about dibbleheimheim being multi hours long well the first Nibbleheim I mean the flashback sequence yeah that's what I'm talking about the the calm talk mm-hmm okay well that that I expected probably gonna be juicy I expected that to be expected that's tomorrow spoiler bar and June on open world and yet really apparently oh that's the demo And Junon Open World. And really? Apparently.

Oh, that's the demo they gave out to more special than us content creators. I see. That game's big then, if they're putting out that as a demo. I definitely don't mind like playing to experience more through demo version But like in terms of just a presentation just showing me more I Hit a point where I'm like, okay stop showing me, you know Yeah, I'm kind of there For for this, you know what they're gonna do they're gonna end a new trailer tomorrow with a stinger of

Aerith yelling out Sephiroth. No, how could you have killed them? I mean and you're gonna be like, oh my god. Well they already fucking had like Marlene freaking out with like, with cloud there and Zack just sitting behind them on a bench or whatever like, anyway, we're targeting, she's gonna die. Anyways, all right. Are we going to see gacked tomorrow? Well, oh my God. Stop it.

Stop it. Stop. Are we? Are we going to see gacked tomorrow? We have not. We have. We could. We definitely.

We have not yet been re-gacked it. And I'm saying no. And here's here's why I don't think so. If we were going to get regacted, he would have been talking about it out and about in some way, shape, or form involved with press. Oh, is he a blabbermouth? Press would have occurred.

There would have been some semblance, some sign somewhere, if not even just an outfit, a costume, or a post just an outfit, a costume, or a post of a photo, you know? I don't know, we are gonna be taking part of a production of Loveless. I think. Of the Gold Saucer.

I think we would have heard something. There's no way he'd keep silent and then just be like ahhhhhh. Fuck. Alright. And then yeah, I guess a beyond state of play only other little bit is the weird digging that found a data mine revealing Hi-Fi Rush had some t-shirt designs that were console platform specific and they pulled out and saw a PS5 and switch design. Okay, yeah, no. Exclusive t-shirt. Xbox is going to be talking this week about the plan for Xbox business going forward and

it really looks like they're going to just give up on Xbox exclusivity entirely. Oh, they already said that, didn't they? They pretty much said like. Yeah, they implied it, but it genuinely feels like, like by the end of the week, we're going to be talking about Gears of War on a PlayStation. Man, from having the lead over PlayStation after one and two to just giving it up, that's nuts. And Game Pass is-

It would be a grand irony if Microsoft in the games business turned into Sega. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha That would be very interesting. We've got a couple IPs. Do you guys want to use them? Alright, let's take some letters. If you want to send in a letter, send it to castlesuperbeastmail.com. That's castlesuperbeastmail.com. Keep your messages brief, please. Um, dear Chewie and fuckface. Hey, there's an old one for us. You ever see a bunch of people pissed off about something that just never bothered you?

Talking about, like, like every single day of my fucking life. Hated Shadow of Colossus' remake graphics or some particular character you never really found annoying. Something where it seems like you're alone and not having a small, strong emotional reaction to it. Thanks for answering. I Can't believe they put thigh highs on Mithra and Pira and made them way hotter Did they oh do you remember that? That was like that was like a big spiel that had people angry at me. Oh like a sense of because I was pro censorship It was essentially a bit. Okay. Also the characters are way hotter now.

Oh, it like I guess it depends on the instance of whether or not they it does improve the design. Some of the weird like black tights that go underneath like a bunch of the KOF character designs look super weird. My sure and only with the withui with the skull suit underneath. There's a current localization thing that is so impenetrable. I cannot understand it. The fury over localizers ruining Japanese games. Oh, you mean the localizers?

Oh, the localizers, that's right, yeah. I think I can't believe we continued past that you remember when I saw me in files had Mizuki the little girl with the green hair had a line in English No, where she was like I really look up to gay people I think they're really brave and I think the art they make is really fantastic and everyone lost their goddamn minds going this fucking woke ass bullshit western blue hair pieces of shit ruined my fucking Japanese video game and then you look at the fucking Japanese version of the scene and you could literally hear her say LGBT and say the exact thing wonderful. Excellent. the original line thing Wonderful excellent there's comments on my persona 3 video going I can't believe you would defend this this fucking woke bullshit

localized garbage Illuminati shit, and I'm just The game that lets you get groomed by your teachers to woke? I'm sorry What? Yeah Like here's a really good example Dwight Dwight machete Mendez in really good example Dwight Dwight machete Mendez in Infinite Wealth is localized from Japanese to English because it's Danny Trejo. Now you can actually argue like all day as to what version of his dialogue is the most accurate because it was clearly written for

the English speaking actor Danny Trejo, right? But it was technically written in Japanese first. So in Japanese, he expressing frustration says yare yare, which is very famously associated with Jodoro and can sometimes be translated as good grief. People are angry that it was not translated as good grief. It was translated as Danny Trejo rolling his eyes and saying Dios mio. Oh my God.

Which is the exact, perfect, exact meaning. It is as perfect as it could possibly be translated. It's. Yeah, you're it to his character than Yada, Yada, because he's a Mexican guy who speaks Spanish. Yeah, stupid. Amazing. When anyway, they just want to have Curie you going his own way, man. Why can't you go his own way?

What stuff that doesn't really bug you? I guess. I mean, you but you guys all stuff that does it really bug you? I guess, I mean, you, but you guys all know that shit about me, right? Like the, anytime there's been like a game that's pretty universally, like that's widely reviled, but I'm just like, eh, there's something here. It's got that cool thing in it. I like, there's that thing in it. I liked, right? Mirror's Edge Catalyst is not better than mirrors edge

But it's super not but it's still a pretty fun parkour game that I liked playing you know Come on Willie give me something here by on a command. Oh be mad about you don't give a shit by and a commando Why farm is pretty dumb? Oh, that's And a commando wife arm is pretty dumb. Oh, that's but that's a good example But it's so bad, but I sure enjoyed swinging around and doing the rest of the stuff in that game And I can dig deep I can go but I can go deeper like let's yeah, let's go deeper I want to like I mean woolly I Hate on shit all day, but you, you're a calmer, like, more chill individual. I mean, everything about the fucking, every, like, all the story shit was terrible, but the combat in Other M, I did appreciate some of that shit they were doing.

The introduction of the parry that came back around from Metroid Dread. You know, I have a fun story that I recently read from an interview for Other M, where the director was like, we're going to make this playable with just the Wii remote. And every single member of the staff was like, why? And he would respond with, we're going to make it playable with just the Wii remote. And new staff would come in, and the first question they would ask

is why are we not using the Nunchuck? It comes with the system. And the response was, it's going to be playable with just the Wii Remote. And it drove everyone on the staff nuts. Oh yeah. Because they had to do all sorts of shit to make it work with just like the three buttons.

You know, like perfect. There you go. I like I just that there's your there's your other M defense, your Bionic Commando, your Mirazence Catalyst. That's good. And earlier I just listed what the things that I thought I were cool but misused in Bioshock Infinite. So, they roll. You know who deserves like a medal? Not an award, a medal, they can pin on their chest.

The art team on Bioshock Infinite. Some of the most gorgeous concept art and environments I have ever seen just wasted on the stupidest shit ever. Okay, I was wondering, I'm like, do you feel the same way? Like, like, a lot of the- a lot of the Columbia design shit was really cool? Like, around and you're like, holy, this is gorgeous! Okay, alright. I felt like I'm- I felt like nobody- I can't believe they placed a mediocre shooter in here.

I felt like nobody else was seeing that and was like, nah, fuck the whole thing. And I was like, there was some conceptually rad shit that was there. Okay. Yeah, there you go. There you go. Oh, you know what? Hey, we got Dad Asuna coming in with an assist

to bridge our two topics. They point out that the translation of Other M is actually so poor that it breaks the story in some parts. Does it? Yeah. Hmm. It actually makes parts of the story like nonsensical. So it was even.

Okay. So like the stuff with the trend calling her lady and shit like that. That's all just in English. Okay. Okay. So that had a role in how bad that was. That was like the you know the part where she has to beg him for power authorization and then the thumbs down yeah English yeah okay all right great

it is a great different game great didn't know that yeah there you go there you go all right see you guys tomorrow for the ff7 shit. Bye. Bye