Castle Super Beast - CSB 258: Shadow the Hedgehog’s Poz Load Control (feat. @AMGSheena)

Episode Date: February 27, 2024

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Music Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
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Starting point is 00:00:40 Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. to keep our shit in line. What's going on, Sheena? How you doing? Hey, how's it going? I don't know if I can keep your shit in line. Don't put that pressure on me. Don't put that evil on me.
Starting point is 00:00:51 That's a lot too. It is. That's a lot to ask of me right now. But it's kind of become, I think it's become a thing of like, okay, third voice is automatically forced to be the voice of reason to check our shit that goes out of control.
Starting point is 00:01:03 How long have you known me? How long have you known me? And how long have you known that I am not the voice of reason to check that goes out control. How long have you known me? How long have you known me? And how long have you known that I am not the voice of? Absolutely not. Which is how I even got on this podcast to begin with. But it's relative comparison, by relative comparison, I suppose. Would you like to introduce our guest?
Starting point is 00:01:19 Yes. Hello, it is Sheena of Albino Moose Games. And we met a billion years ago at, I want to say, PAX. Yeah. It was PAX. And, you know, and Sheena is the developer behind Spooky's Jump Scare Mansion. Hey, you got it. Some people stumble. Let's go. I would have fucked it up. I was thinking it. And I fucked it up in my that.
Starting point is 00:01:47 We're not going with the old title, you know, we're here. What's up? Yeah, we love to see it. And, you know, ever since then, it's been just like, hey, what's up? Pop it up different cons, different, different, different events here and there and always a good time. She is cool. Always a good time.
Starting point is 00:02:03 Thanks. You guys are all right. Made at best. I'll take a good time. Thanks. You guys are all right. Mid at best. I'll take it. Mid at best. You guys are all right. Mid at best. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:02:11 So now that we have a guest on this Capcom Cup podcast, we have a third party to look at us and go, what the fuck is this fighting game shit you guys are talking about? Hope you're ready to go in-depth on frame data today, Sheena. Oh, no. All right, let's go. I was talking about hope you're ready to go in depth on frame data today, Sheena. All right, let's go. Let's go. No, what's up? What's up? How's it going?
Starting point is 00:02:33 We we open up usually with what we've been playing, what we've been watching, what's going on. Have you have you checked out anything recently? Dude, I have been so bad. I have been traveling so much recently from coming from magfest to kind of in disclosed funny area in Chicago All I have been playing is Splatoon Even get a lie to you. All I've been playing is like to you. All I've been playing is like, split tune, and then just like, working on my own game. Does this playing my own games?
Starting point is 00:03:11 Yeah, playing your own games super counts. Does that count? Okay, well, so I recently just put out a demo for a game called Galvanized with my studio. So I've been playing that God damn, What have I been playing? Holy shit. Oh, I'm so bad at this. I'm a game developer. I don't even play fucking video games. You mentioned Splatoon, and I don't know if I ever talked about it,
Starting point is 00:03:32 but I remember hopping on to Splatoon 2 and being the only game I've ever played where I'm like, I might be like just literally too old for this. Not because of the tone, but because every single person was using tilt controls to aim. Yeah, and I was getting fucking smoked.
Starting point is 00:03:50 And I'm like, I just wanna use my analog stick. Well, cause the grandpa did. Well, a lot of the times tilt is bad, but that's one of those games where it actually helps with the micro adjustment of your paint coverage, you know? Dude, do you wanna know know something that's so crazy? So I used to, in Splatoon 2, I used to be X-Rank, which is the highest rank on Splatoon.
Starting point is 00:04:09 Let's go. But I didn't, I don't use tilt controls in Splatoon. I cannot do it. Oh, so I'm just shit. Oh, fuck. Yeah, you're just suck. You just suck. I'm sorry.
Starting point is 00:04:21 Skill issue. Okay. Skill issue. I honestly though haven't touched it since the first one. So like how is three going? Is it like? Oh, it's rough. It's in a rough state. Unfortunately. It's in a rough state. That's why I haven't even bothered trying to grind out my rank. I think I'm like S right now like a mess rank, but that's it. I'm not I'm not fighting that and that recently a new DLC came out called side order
Starting point is 00:04:46 So probably after this I'm probably gonna finally play that are they still doing are they still doing like? spot-fest exactly like like pick sides between like war Concepts yeah, okay. Yeah, they just had one last weekend. That was a Friday Saturday and Sunday where your your picks between three Oh my god Yeah, cuz there's big yeah, it's three. No cuz yeah cuz big man big man superior. I mean Friday all day because Friday Wait, well, okay Friday night you have the entirety of a full day ahead of you And then the one after that so you don't even have to worry about it.
Starting point is 00:05:25 Dude, Saturday. Saturday, Saturday is for me. Saturday? Dude, I was having this conversation with Paige the other night where it was like 10 o'clock, 10 p.m. and she was going to bed because we do that now in this house. And she's like, are you staying up?
Starting point is 00:05:41 I'm like, I am staying up because Saturday is the only day of the week that I can stay up as late as I want Because I didn't stream and I did and Sunday. I don't do nothing and I'm gonna I'm gonna do it I'm an adult man, and I can stay up as late as I want Okay, I stayed up till one o'clock. I might have to actually recuse myself from this one o'clock. I might have to actually recuse myself from this conversation because to me, for the majority of my life,
Starting point is 00:06:09 Friday night into Saturday was church time. It was the Sabbath. Oh, see, yeah, that was your Saturday. That was Sabbath, and Saturdays were nothing but Kim's and Communion's and worship. And then when the sun came down is when I was allowed to play games again. So.
Starting point is 00:06:26 So your Friday night was our Saturday night. Saturday night, yeah. Okay, well you see, because it started on Friday night, technically that's when it goes down, but like it's all stupid, it's all stupid. I didn't know you did like the sun down the sunrise shit. It is literally. I didn't know you did that.
Starting point is 00:06:44 Yeah, so Seventh Day Adventist is what it's called. And it follows the Shabbat in the same way that it does with Judaism, where like it's from the sundown until the sundown the next day. That's technically the seventh day when God rest in. Oh, that's fascinating. You could have played so many
Starting point is 00:07:01 Super Nintendo games during that time. Yeah, well, we have to look at the sunset calendar and like whatever's on TV, you know, if it was like family matters or it depends because if it's early in the year, then like Gargoyles is coming on and then you get to watch Gargoyles and then shut it down for the rest of the weekend. You were able to watch Gargoyles on the ship, but isn't that like no, no, no, no, no, it's before the sun goes down. You see?
Starting point is 00:07:27 So the whole point is like whatever time it is, if it's sunset is at 4 p.m., you get to watch 4 p.m. TV and then it's dark and then you can't do anything until the Saturday night. But if it's sunset later, you get to go past the Disney afternoon and you actually get towards like family matters and shit, you get to go past the Disney afternoon, and you actually get towards family matters and shit. So summer is a massive, massive thumbs up. Huge.
Starting point is 00:07:53 But it also means the Saturday, you're locked up for longer. You don't get your freedom until way late at night. Oh! Oh! It skewed so much of who I am. I am, oh, that's so complicated as like a concept and a thing to remember too.
Starting point is 00:08:11 You know what I mean? Like you're trying to figure out what like two plus two is but also trying to remember when you're allowed to watch TV and consume media. The only like curfew style time thing that I ever dealt with for my entire childhood is did the streetlights kick on? You're too late.
Starting point is 00:08:26 Yeah, okay. Yep, that was me too. Yeah, that was absolutely me. But now in my adult years, like Saturday is like pussy poppin' because there's concerts and there's all bunch of cool stuff that I can do. Drop it low. Yeah, rave it out. Yeah, dude.
Starting point is 00:08:42 Yeah, oh yeah. Yeah, absolutely. Well, so I mean, for me there was a point where it's like okay I actually have reclaimed my weekend and then I can exactly go out and do shit and have fun with my friends But like the entire time every time you hear me say Saturday morning cartoons. I'm vaguely I'm vaguely referencing a concept. I have no attachment to oh I am completely posing every time I say oh, yeah, you know, it's like a Saturday morning cartoon I don't know what a fucking Saturday morning cartoon is. I wasn't allowed to watch them
Starting point is 00:09:16 You know I've through us most this interpreted a but yeah, oh My god, wow, it's like swains a in a while, but yeah. Oh my God. Wow. It's explains. A lot. Everything. Exploits so damn much. Yeah. And then the desire to read like to I made to get back all those lost weekends shapes what the fuck I turn into.
Starting point is 00:09:39 Oh, anyway. Yeah. Well, I don't know who won the Splatfest in the end. I actually don't know. I got to look this up. I think it was Saturday. I think it was Saturday. I'd better be the chat.
Starting point is 00:09:51 I'll probably say it was Saturday. Who's it better be Saturday. I'm going to rage. I'm going to be so used to the dweeb that's like, um, actually Sunday, though. It was Friday. Hey, let's go. Friday. What?
Starting point is 00:10:01 Oh, damn it. Oh, you know why Friday night is Splatoon is children And they were like oh, I get off school early on Friday Hooray, I could go play with my Xbox or whatever the fuck Who gets off early on a Friday during school? When you skip your classes Well, yeah, I wouldn't know anything about, yeah. I wouldn't know anything about that. No, I wouldn't know anything about that.
Starting point is 00:10:28 I'm just like a little Catholic girl. I've never skipped school. I've never I've never drank in a beer before. I've never done anything like that. Never. No, no. You know, with the nuns, with the giant paddles and everything. This just. This is a fucking like. No fucking memory bubble in my mind.
Starting point is 00:10:47 When I was in grade 11 and I was finishing high school, I did my final exams like the last week of May, but I still had school until the 20th of June. Why? And I remember, yeah. I started going to my classes and I'm like, wait, why am I even bothering to show up? What the hell is this? Why did you show up?
Starting point is 00:11:11 You shouldn't show up. We still have some material to cover. And I'm like, fuck this, I'm out of here. We had, we had. That makes no sense. I want to say we had like a week or so, like a couple of days after exams to just basically show up and everyone just fucked off and fucked around, you know? Like there was no so, like a couple days after exams to just basically show up and everyone just fucked off
Starting point is 00:11:25 and fucked around, you know, like there was no real, like people were walking through the hallways, mid-class, no one gave a shit, but. Yeah, I literally just walked around town. That's how we did it too. And just fucking did nothing and came home and told my parents that school was fun. Also, we had.
Starting point is 00:11:42 For like 15 days in a row. we had uniforms and that was like when people kind of just gave up entirely on the uniforms and started busting out their own clothes. I had I had uniforms. My my elementary and middle school experience just because I went to like a like a school in Texas and it was like the ugliest fucking uniforms who it was khakis and maroon collared shirts. Ugliest shit. Ugliest shit in my life.
Starting point is 00:12:09 Ugliest shit in my life. Like what do I work for fucking all state? Like what the shit is this? I never had. So then yeah. And so then my my my so then I ended up going to Illinois for high school and so we didn't have like a dress code but I always used to like skim the line of things that I, we were allowed to wear like I used to wear like, like there's
Starting point is 00:12:31 like this popular misfits lyric that says like, I ain't no goddamn son of a bitch. And I used to wear a shirt in school that used to say that with a little like the, you know, the little phantom, the misfits logo kind of thing. But my senior year of high school, I ditched most of it because like your senior year checked out, you don't give a shit anymore. But my birthday isn't March. And so I still had school for a little while, even before graduating.
Starting point is 00:12:58 And so I ended up picking up this job as an apprentice at a tattoo shop. So I would always ditch the last half of my classes just so that I could go to the tattoo shop and work on my apprenticeship. Oh, that's awesome, sick. Yeah, but what was even more funny about this shit, and it's super not allowed,
Starting point is 00:13:14 but who gives a shit at this point? But the on-campus cop was also an actual cop that he would do cop duties at night, but during the day he would be an on-campus cop. So he used to get tattooed at the shop that I worked at. So the few days that I did stick around, I would just hang out in his little like office thing and I used to steal packs. Well, not steal because he watched me do it, but I used to take cigarettes that he confiscated
Starting point is 00:13:37 from other kids. All of them chores. Jesus Christ. Yeah, and he would be like, hey, like are you working at the shop today? And I'm like, yeah. And he's like, oh, do you want to ride? I'm like, fuck yeah, I want to ride. I don't want to walk. I don't want to walk like two miles.
Starting point is 00:13:50 Skimming off the commissary. Jesus Christ. So wait, both of you guys went to uniformed high schools? Yeah. No, my elementary and my middle school were uniformed, but then my high school experience was not uniformed. So I didn't go, like everything I went to was like completely fucking laissez faire, like do whatever. And there was like, I didn't give a shit
Starting point is 00:14:11 and everyone hated uniforms, but there was like one horribly, like horrible downside slash upside, which you got to learn really early which of your teachers were disgusting creep pieces of shit. Like my history teacher that just disappeared one year In the middle of the middle of semester He just fucking vanished and and the staff just pretended like he'd never worked there
Starting point is 00:14:36 And he was the guy always yelling at girls like pull up their tank tops Okay, okay, you remember that yeah awesome. Yeah, no, he was summoned away back to save history, actually. Time needed him. Okay. What? Well, there was definitely, yeah, there was rumors about T-Charts who disappeared from time to time in high school. We had one or two of those as well.
Starting point is 00:15:03 The uniform thing, we had elementary dress codes, right? So for up to grade six, it was like, you can wear kind of whatever, but it has to be these colors. It was like white shirt, gray pants more or less. But then in high school, not only is it a uniform, but it's a fucking scam where you have to order from this company, top marks. Oh, bullshit. Produces, it's like, it's like, where you have to order from this company. Top marks produces the,
Starting point is 00:15:26 it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like,
Starting point is 00:15:33 it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like,
Starting point is 00:15:40 it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, administration would actually send you to the office to be like, hey, you're wearing a white shirt but it's not a top mark shirt. And of course that shit was marked up and expensive.
Starting point is 00:15:50 It was completely insane. But there were all kinds of ways to try and find to circumvent what you could by like, yeah, little things, right? So almost like Ryuji in P5 has got the shirt underneath the uniform jacket. So if you got a particular white shirt that has like, I remember I had like a shirt shirt
Starting point is 00:16:12 that was like a very thin material. So you could wear like a T-shirt underneath it and have a little bit of extra flavor with your colored shirt or whatever's going on with the white one underneath, you know? Or you'd find just different ways to kind of mix and match it here and there and show a little bit of personality within the stupid bullshit that is the uniform.
Starting point is 00:16:31 And they would advertise it to parents as like, oh, it's going to teach your kids how to, you know, whatever have discipline, yadda yadda. And the whole point is to say, to show that like, oh, if everyone has a uniform, then we don't have to worry about kids who don't have enough clothes or have to wear the same thing often. So it kind of lets people, it doesn't allow kids to be bullied economically, right? Yeah, but the kids who have less money to buy clothes are the first to buy more dumpies.
Starting point is 00:16:56 Look exactly. Yeah, exactly. It's horseshit. It's the highest order of horseshit. The exact thing that you're claiming to be fixing you're causing way worse You know Jimmy's kind of poor he does his family doesn't have a lot of money Why don't you throw a bunch of paint on his uniform and just fuck his whole life? Oh, yeah No, we it was it was off
Starting point is 00:17:22 And the worst no the worst narc teachers were the ones who were like looking for the fucking little stitch The little logo that said TM, you know Anyway The closest that we got to that my because like my like I said my elementary in the middle We had same same kind of bullshit where we had to buy all of our clothes from like a really specific place because that's where like the They fit the criteria, but my in high school. It was we didn't have a dress code except for gym class. So gym class specifically, we had to get the specific branded gym shorts and gym shirts of like our school like our high school like name and bullshit like that. But also same
Starting point is 00:18:01 thing, we had to go to a special store in the city to buy that and the uniforms are always like 50 bucks or something and they always said like, you have to buy like two or three so because you have to wear this like every day of the week like you have to buy a bond so it's like $150 minimum for fucking gym clothes. Yeah. And speaking of sweat, by the way, so I have an older brother, so guess who had to fucking recycle some of those uniforms? Oh, no. Heading down when the time came, you know?
Starting point is 00:18:32 I have so much disdain for fucking like, hand me downs. Dude, you saying that out loud just unlocked a series of awful memories with my brother. But they're not the ones you think they are. What are they then? What does that mean? So, Jean, if you don't know, my half-brother and I don't get along
Starting point is 00:18:52 because he's like a piece of shit scumbag criminal. Oh, that's me with my two sisters. I can't stand them. Great. But like, I think back to these moments where maybe mom and dad could have mitigated that a little bit because I never wore a single hand me down for my brother because my mom didn't like any of his clothes because they were not nice enough for her boy. So, so, so my mother sister would give hand me down
Starting point is 00:19:21 to my brother if it was a friend. But I would get a brand new thing cuz oh need to get a brand new fuck If that is not To hate each other I don't know what cuz like oh yeah So you ever have this moment there was no shot this had never had a shot right unlocks in oh my god understand and you look back to a childhood memory and you're like oh I see it now fucking Matilda Harry Potter okay just so what so when when I was like I'm still in shock I'm sorry I'm
Starting point is 00:20:03 still like when I was I may have I still in shock. I'm sorry. I'm still like, what the fuck? I may be responsible for my brother's descent into crime. I'm now thinking about it. I might remember the flashpoint moment where it all went wrong, where we were driving somewhere and I was seven and he was 11. And we were moving from Verdun to Shadigay. So shithole to weird suburb, right?
Starting point is 00:20:28 And we had gone to a store to get me a bedroom set, like a desk and a bureau and a bed frame because I was gonna have a new room, because I wasn't gonna be sharing a room anymore. And my brother asked, hey, how come Pat gets all new furniture? And my seven-year-old ass looked at him and opened my mouth and said,
Starting point is 00:20:51 it's because they love me more than you. Pat! And the car, like, exploded. Pat. Dude. Pat. Dude. Pat. Dude, I never-
Starting point is 00:21:05 Pat. Why? Why are you a little ass? Why are you a little cock? Here's the problem. Here's the real problem. Is that I was a young child. Oh my god.
Starting point is 00:21:18 And didn't understand that that was not something that I was supposed to do because it was really obvious. What? It was really, really obvious. This has to be. My sister knew it. My sister's the only person who didn't get that at me. Dude? Because she was like, yeah, no they do.
Starting point is 00:21:38 When you say unlocked, like this has to be unlocked because this is, you've never this up before that's crazy That's insane Always thought there was never a shot. There was never a shot. That's why yeah, okay Remember after that Bumbled it. They were like, oh no, of course not. We really don't. I just, I can't, I'm having a crisis, I can't.
Starting point is 00:22:11 That's cool, man. Okay, okay, alright. Alright, dynamic established, got it. Yeah. That dude, that is what you call the smallest domino. Like, straight up. Oh man. That dude, that is what you call the smallest domino. Like straight up. Oh man.
Starting point is 00:22:28 Fuck, all right. You're just, you're tying a little grubby finger. I was a little child, I didn't know any better. You were seven, you should have known to be the lines, dude. No, no, no, hold on, hold on, hold on. Kids say the realest things apparently. No, hold on, I couldn't have been seven because I was seven in grade two
Starting point is 00:22:47 and this is when we were moving, so I was five. Oh, okay, that's not so bad. Okay, okay. Yeah. Like, it's so bad, but like, no, you didn't know. You didn't know. And you're moving from, and you're moving from Kaleid to Lirnia.
Starting point is 00:23:02 Yeah. No, the problem, Sheena, was that I did know. That was the, that was the real problem. Yeah. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay.
Starting point is 00:23:13 See if you could follow this upgrade tree to it's, to whatever conclusions, you know, damn. But also this all makes a lot of sense now too. We have a lot of, we made a lot of sense with Woolley and now we've makes a lot of sense now, too We have a lot of we made a lot of sense with woolly and now we've made a lot of sense Yeah, it's already stealing like some getting into fights at school by that point. So I mean it's I well, okay Well, that's a good question Maybe it can be found behind this chocolate bar at the at the quarter store. All right, all right, all right.
Starting point is 00:23:54 Anyways, hey, what was your question about physical altercations? No, I was going to say, OK, so because you brought it up, did you ever like an obviously Pat, we know, but did you guys ever have an altercation in school like a fist like a proper fist fight and what age? Oh, I never went to the same school. But you didn't fight any other kids? Oh no, I fought a lot of other kids. Yeah. What was your first fight? What grade? What grade? How old were you? Kindergarten. Oh shit. Yeah. Okay. You were an angry little child. So, Shaina, you stood next to me. I'm like the shortest man you've ever seen in your life, right?
Starting point is 00:24:29 It's true. So, like, everyone would want to pick on me. So I would have to try and defend myself. And I often did a really bad job. But yeah, no. I got into fights constantly throughout all the way out until I went to college. I like the three of us when we stand together, by the way, to keep talking about height really quick,
Starting point is 00:24:51 because we're like a little phone signal. The thing that's at the bottom and I'm in the middle. I see how it was the Wi-Fi signal. Okay. Oh, that works. Sure. With the black key that's in the middle at the top. Yeah, the Ebony's, but those are usually short-lived.
Starting point is 00:25:10 Anyways. That's true, that's true. But you know what? I am sharp though, so I'll take that. Ah! That's good. The, no, in high school, yeah, had a couple fights. The, for the most part, a lot of the time,
Starting point is 00:25:28 so I had friends that I'd play D&D with, and kids from the gaming side, and some of the nerdy groups and stuff, and they would get picked on by this shit group, and I would get into fights with the bullies of that group that would come out minor to your friends. Good for you, man. And that was kind of like a,
Starting point is 00:25:49 that was the majority of what they were. There were like one or two random ones with people that weren't a part of that. That like happened one time someone just pegged an apple through the air on the soccer field and it landed square in the nuts Like on me on the other side and it's like oh my god, and yeah shit random shit Random shit's gonna pop off
Starting point is 00:26:16 Exactly, yeah, that was you that's that was you literally threw a lawn dart and like oh you started one okay? But for the most part yeah, I had a couple of those Oh, you started one, okay. But for the most part, yeah, I had a couple of those. That's a way better version of that story than mine. I mean, I told you, but like back in the day, like the fisticuffs I was getting into would often involve electricity, fire, and cars. There were, yes, there were stage accessories
Starting point is 00:26:42 and shit going on. I can't. You know what, I can't. You tried to run me over with this fucking car Yes, there were stage accessories and I That fucking psycho shit you're short enough that you would have just it would have just went clean over you though She's on the board No, we had- I'm never allowed on this podcast ever again. We had as well, like, there was a point, and this wasn't really fighting as much
Starting point is 00:27:12 as just like board kids at church, where we ran a bit of a fight club in the basement for a while. That's godly. That's the concert to the Lord right there. We were really bored and it was taking really long for the sun to set. So I remember me, my crazy cousin,
Starting point is 00:27:32 two of the other church kids that we were with and another dude that was from one of the other churches, we basically just had some kind of boxing rounds that we were doing and it was pretty much just like boxing, body shots, grappling no-face shots and Just do that until 830 and then we can get the fuck out of here But we're trapped so we might as well just box in a church basement for a while That's so fucking fascinating because I had a little bit of both of you guys
Starting point is 00:28:02 growing up in terms of like my fighting bullshit because like just like Pat but for a different reason I got bullied constantly because of my albinism and I grew up in a you know I'm full but Hispanic and like I grew up in a like 90% Hispanic you know like community and stuff like that and so I got picked on constantly right and so like my first fist fight is where I it was sort of a weapon, but sort of not. And I was like in fifth grade. And like some little girl kept learning. No, I wasn't fit was a fifth grade. I think it was like fourth or fifth grade. But like some little girl was just like pulling my hair and I was like,
Starting point is 00:28:37 please stop. And then she like yanked on it again real hard, like like tilted my head. And I'm like, please stop. And then the third, and I'm like being like a little psycho and I'm being calm about it even though it hurts. And I'm just, she does it like a third time. And I'm like, okay. And I like grabbed her by her fucking face and I just slammed her head into the like, into a brick wall that she was like standing like again.
Starting point is 00:28:58 What? What? It hurts so much! Yeah. It hurts so much! Real hard like boom, boom. Cutie! And then like. My worst rules! Wow! I Real hard like
Starting point is 00:29:10 Wow, I I do I I've ordered three fucking action Yeah, okay, and so it's just like so we got to do a lot of fights, but then in middle school This is where that this is where the woolly part comes in so So in middle school, a lot of us discovered like professional wrestling, but at the time we're little and we don't know that wrestling is fake. Right. So kind of the similar thing where except it wasn't boxing, but we would do like professional wrestling moves and stuff like that. But like because we, we grew up like super like poor, we just did it
Starting point is 00:29:42 like in the street and like the middle of the street in between like people's like houses and stuff like that. But I like, I was like in constant fights like all throughout like my years of just like relentless like bullying even like in high school and stuff like it was just so it's so funny that I am like the middle mix between you two. And, and hey, now we get the last laugh talking about video games on the internet We love to see it to success and and Pat you get to sleep in a race car with your wife You don't want to hear something funny I look I at one point looked up like the worst shithead I ever knew in I at one point looked up like the worst shit head I ever knew in high school.
Starting point is 00:30:25 What are they doing? All the way are they now? Yeah, realtor. Yeah, okay. A realtor. Oh shit. It's like Taylor made for shitheads. That's true.
Starting point is 00:30:36 Every realtor is a fucking piece of shit. Like oh man, selling the house, buying a house. Oh my God, they're fucking so awful. That's true. That's true. That's true. That's true. That's true.
Starting point is 00:30:49 That's true. That's true. That's true. Yeah. I feel, well, I've, I've, I don't, yeah, I haven't, I haven't really done too much like where are they nows with Facebook or such. I think they're supposed to be like a reunion at some point,
Starting point is 00:31:05 but I don't think it ever really got together. I know at least one guy I knew in high school that didn't like bully me, but he was dickhead. I saw him on the street many years later begging me for money for crack because he got kicked out of the police academy. Oh! He got kicked out of the police academy.
Starting point is 00:31:24 And he's like, hey Pat, remember me? Remember? We went to school. Do you have any money? I don't know who you are. Get away from me. Wow. Dude, that's a scene in the movie, man. That was in the screenplay. That's. Yeah. OK. And he looked he looked like he got kicked out of the police academy for being a drug addict. He had the whole- I can't wait to watch the pets.
Starting point is 00:31:46 He had the whole fucking look and the thinness and the rags and shit. Talk about a fucking 180 though, like from the one to the other. That's some like rickety cricket shit. Anyway. Not really, because he was doing drugs in high school.
Starting point is 00:32:04 Yeah, okay class high Okay, so what we would have had would have been a training day waiting to happen. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah One of the one of those cops, right? Okay, well all's well that ends well. I fucking suppose Jesus That came out on top for once, so we love to see it. I'm small. I'm small too. You know, I'm small too.
Starting point is 00:32:31 I'm only like, what, two inches taller than you? I'm also small. The proportions are so off. And it's not because of your tiny little Chernobyl baby legs. I like that you've adopted my nomenclature from years ago. It hurt my feelings so bad. It's scarred. I dropped that.
Starting point is 00:32:50 I threw that at him once on a bus. Was it like 20 years ago? 20 years ago we sat on a bus side by side. And I was so fucked up because when we sat down, we were actually eye level and shoulder level. And I was like, I don't understand. And it was like, oh, the proportions are not the same. Our body length is the same.
Starting point is 00:33:11 You have a full extra foot on your legs. So I threw that one out and the damage was so severe that it is persistent to this day. Oh. That's so fucked up, Wully. You're so mean, Wully. You know, Wully, I'm going to put you on blast here. The meanest thing you ever said to me in the whole time
Starting point is 00:33:35 we've known each other, because we were talking about dating girls 19 years ago. And you were like, I don't get what the problem is. I'm like, Wully, I'm fucking five foot nothing. Girls don't like short guys and you're like, it can't be that hard and then you went away and came back three weeks later and you went, hey Pat, I want to apologize.
Starting point is 00:33:58 I hung out with some girls and I asked them and they were like, you short guys, I'm so sorry. That did not happen, that did not happen. You lost it, I started swearing and I asked them and they were like you short guys This condescending fucking shit I didn't know I went and But did I not go and find out and then bring back the updated information? What like? Oh fuck. I learned.
Starting point is 00:34:31 Oh my god. I learned. Alright, how are we supposed to grow if not to, you know, to go out and find out? Oh, again, I see what you're saying. We're growing. Okay, yeah, that. Holy. Okay, so but not this week.
Starting point is 00:34:44 Just this week wasn't through through the comic that's like, five, five, ten guys. Five, ten guys and his five, ten girlfriend. And like, yeah, five, ten guys, like this little like she be little. And the five, ten girlfriend is like super tall and like sleek, you know? Oh man, yes.
Starting point is 00:35:00 Oh my gosh. Okay, but on the opposite spectrum of it, right? Like, woolly, I have like, I struggle with like this like identity, right? Of people not knowing that I'm Hispanic. Everybody always defaults to being like white, right? So a lot of people like to play this joke with me, right? Where they ask people when they first meet me, like, Hey, what, what, what, what like race? Like, what do you think Sheena is? Like, do you think she's like, hey, what, what, what, what, like, race, like, what do you think Sheena is? Like, do you think she's like, what, you know, blah, blah, blah.
Starting point is 00:35:27 And I won't say who did this, but someone did that when they introduced me to Woolly. And then the person was like hyping him up being like, you're not gonna guess it, you're not gonna guess it, right? And this was like, the most valid I ever felt in my life. So in the peer opposite. Woolly looks at me and he just kind of is like, hmm, hmm, hmm. He's looking at me and he's just like, hmm, hmm, hmm. He's looking at me and he's just like, you're Mexican. And I was like, huh? Well, yeah. How did you...
Starting point is 00:35:55 huh? How did you... what? How did you know that? And he was like, well, look at your like cheekbones. You have like really high cheekbones, blah, blah, blah. And I was like, oh my god, this dude gets me. Sick! Holy shit. Yeah, but that's... Sobones. You have like really high cheek, but blah blah blah, and I was like, oh my god This dude gets me. Holy shit. Yeah, but yes So in the opposite like that's not even the way that I would come to the same answer the question by itself
Starting point is 00:36:13 Means that you're not white Like yeah, they're gonna like it's your your very pale. So obviously you're expecting the person's oh, no I'll be measure head y'all need to check y'all chill the fuck out I'll take oh hey oh yeah you know that so we got two opposite sides of the woolly the woolly coin it's either he's a fucking dick and makes money for being like four foot five or he totally validates. He's racially sensitive, but he's not.
Starting point is 00:36:49 He's not empathetic to the tiny people for their tiny nests. He does not. He does not like short kings confirmed does not like short. Short King Ally actually have, you know, but we all have our blind spots, you know, and we try to work on them. Some of mine happen to be just below the horizon. Bro, I saw a nightmare video that is haunting me.
Starting point is 00:37:17 Oh my god. Okay, it was this black lady on TikTok who she's five two. So I'm like, like oh that's me and she's her boyfriend six three so she put a fucking video can she put her phone on like her fireplace and recorded herself talking to it and it looks like you're talking to which is that what it looks like I look like a little child oh Oh, just okay, okay, right the tilt yeah Okay, and she liked she did all sorts of things like she got mad and she like she like Like pretended to be yelling and it's just like oh my god. Is that oh my god. It's so ridiculous
Starting point is 00:37:58 No wonder no wonder the talls laugh the world is hilarious the talls All right No wonder the talls laugh the world is hilarious the talls So so You know what I've many a time thrown under the bus as well that fucking coward we went to school with who like went out with a super cool girl that was tall and Eventually like just broke her heart and dumped her because Oh that was so fucking lame! Because he was just too insecure and couldn't handle it. Oh my god.
Starting point is 00:38:30 And we just roasted his ass for eternity on that one. I remember sitting there going I've never dated anyone that wasn't substantially taller than me because let's be honest the statistics don't work and I'm like what's the problem? And then- They're just a little up here! is the statistics don't work. And I'm like, what's the problem? And then the girl just will appear. And then you get the dynamic and it's awesome. Don't be a fucking coward. It can help you reach things on shelves. You get up.
Starting point is 00:38:54 I know that's great. That's the kitchen page has to get there. She's got that. I get the back. I can't get them. They have to get them. She's offering upies right now. You can get some right now.
Starting point is 00:39:07 I love tall women, dude. Like I love tall women. I don't know how people could be so insecure about it really. I think I don't know the idea of me hugging a tall lady in my face is directly in her boobies. There you go. That's great. That's great. Why are you going to be that? Like that it's not it's not bad, you know But like I've definitely dated dudes Pat's height But I've also dated dudes and like chicks and stuff also like the tallest person I ever dated was six foot seven
Starting point is 00:39:34 And I said it like five foot three So that was like the tallest and then the shortest I dated is somebody was like either like 411 or a five even. Oh, four. That was a dude, by the way, Pat. And that was a dude. Like, yeah. But yeah, that tall, though. That tall is ridiculous.
Starting point is 00:39:52 You could just pilot a Mecca, just go on the shoulders and like, you're off. I did listen. I did get the uppies one time when I got too drunk and they had to carry me up the stairs one time. So that was cool. So that was cool. So that was sick. So you the other thing that you have played, you mentioned was galvanized. Yes. Yeah, I had a glance through a trailer.
Starting point is 00:40:18 I see rocket drums. I see a grappling hook. Is that them one of them? They're boomer shooters. It that is one of them old dang old boomer. I see quake unreal ass looking guns. That's exactly what it is. It was very much heavily inspired by like quake.
Starting point is 00:40:32 Yeah. Having been on a recent ultra kill kick, coming back to that, I am curious. Although I'm also playing Half-Life 2 right now and discovering the limits of my motion sickness are not completely gone. They've come back. Oh yeah, old games, yeah, how fast do you wanna move?
Starting point is 00:40:52 Mm-hmm. You wanna move too fast? Let's go. We're going through it and like new games, it's not as bad so we've subtly figured out things over the years to make it better. But yeah, how is that going? It's been super, super cool. We're fortunate enough that we were able to hire on a couple people like as a full team as AMG because at the time it was just me and my best friend Travis,
Starting point is 00:41:18 he goes by Stuffy Moose on the internet because we were doing like Spooky's HD and then we did a bunch of contract work throughout the years, you know, just to kind of keep us like help us like stay afloat and just, you know, and just also helping other friends, you know, things going on, you know, so then when we, you know, then we got to a point where, you know, a contract that we had had ended, and we had two other people's contracts that we're because we're all working on some other project together and two others it was a programmer and an artist and they you know were two friends before the project before the contract work that we all did together so they were slowly working on this like you know galvanized or like you know the bones of it pretty much so when all
Starting point is 00:42:02 of our contracts expired with that project that we were all doing together, we were like, hey, do you want to join forces with us? And like maybe like come under our wing about it. And then we can get like galvanized like off the ground and stuff like that. And they were all for it. So we've been working on galvanized since I believe October of last year. And so we've just been slowly working on this demo because we really wanted to get it on Steam Next Fest, which happened like what a week or two ago. So we've just been kind of like working on that as much as possible and like playing a bunch of like, you know, we definitely like, you know, we're super into Quakes, so we're playing like the first couple Quakes, we're playing Unreal Tournament on real tournament because that's a lot of inspired stuff.
Starting point is 00:42:46 I'm a big fan of Dusk. I love Dusk. The developer is a sweetheart, one of the coolest dudes that I've ever met in the industry. It was very much us just ramping up to work on this project and get a good feel for a boomer shooter the way that people, you know, and you know, the parts that people enjoy, you know, with like a little bit of spin on our own kind of thing. And so currently, you know, we released it for, you know, the Steam Next Fest, we have a demo. We want to go into early access here pretty soon and we're going to do kind of like an
Starting point is 00:43:19 episodic thing and in each episode, there's going to be three episodes and each episode is going to have roughly like, you know, like three to five like levels or something, you know kind of roughly something around that with a couple more weapons and things like that I Yeah, I saw like one of the One of the shots was like a like a cluster truck kind of vibe of like on the back of moving trucks sort of level And yeah, yeah, yeah, I know that that's the that's the third level in the demo actually where you're you're walking you're you're running around like like freight and cargo you know like you know while they're while you're speeding down a highway and so you do have to use like a lot of you know so like we have a chain gun so some stuff you have to like
Starting point is 00:43:57 grapple and like swing over or you could like rocket jump or you can like you know dash boost yourself there's like different ways because we really wanted it to be very like fast paced, like movement, momentum, you know, kind of like shooter. I want to say Boomer shooter. The term was used on this show probably for the first time last year or so. Has anyone started abbreviating it to like booters yet or no? No, we're not silly, no. We're not doing that, okay, because if- if Shlooters is a thing.
Starting point is 00:44:28 Surely. What is a Shlooter? Shlooters are done, man! That's over! What? Loot Shooters. What's a Shlooter? Oh!
Starting point is 00:44:37 I don't like that! I don't like that! Shlooters. I don't like that! Yeah, Randy Pittsburgh made that and then killed it. What a stupid name. I don't know what a stupid name. I don't like that name. I don't so I wouldn't want booters How hard is it to just say boomers shooter?
Starting point is 00:44:54 These kids nowadays they got no attention spans they gotta go they gotta abbreviate That's silly. That's really silly. But yeah, like, you know, so we we've just been like trucking along on that We've got a secret little project that we're working on that we haven't announced yet Hopefully pretty soon because we're kind of like working on it And just we're doing like a couple more updates for spookies, you know, not not like like a little bit more content But those announcements will come in March. So pretty soon. So that's why I haven't had time to play games, because we have huge announcements coming. Will those announcements pop up suddenly from the right side of the screen, supported by a little plank?
Starting point is 00:45:37 Perhaps? No, alright. If only. I should have set that up, damn. Cool. Yeah, so it's just a lot of that right now. If only I should have set that up damn Yeah, so it's just it's just a lot of that right now okay, and I guess what where can people check out more of what's what's going on What can people check out more of what's going on Typically like my Twitter, which is just AMG Sheena or we have like if you don't want to follow me personally for my shenanigans because I do a lot of just different stuff. If you're trying to follow me for my dumb shit of like because I do some like voice acting I'm actually
Starting point is 00:46:13 I started a punk band in my city with like one of my friends you know so we're also you know I do a lot of like music stuff I do some voice acting stuff. But if you're only interested in the game stuff, definitely follow our Twitter it's like albino moose LLC on Twitter and Also, I'm like blue sky. We're just albino moose games on Instagram. It's albino moose games Twitter was the only one that we could not put games in the name and I thought that was horseshit So like like many of the platform, indeed. Exactly, yeah.
Starting point is 00:46:47 Okay, Pat, what's going on? Yeah, I watched the first episode of that new Last Airbender. It's dog shit. Oh. Dog water, okay. So like back in the day, back in the day I would have watched the whole thing
Starting point is 00:47:03 in one go and done that. But I have a human child to take care of. So, point one against the Avatar show. No matter how low you put your TV, the very first noise in the Avatar show on Netflix is a timpani from the comet, which rattles your walls and wakes your baby up. So, great first impression Avatar.
Starting point is 00:47:24 Incredible. Oh no. I really did to like get through some of it before today as well. But unfortunately, busy as weekend. So just OK, can starting with the M Night Shyamalan like basis here. Yeah. By comparison, it looks like a real thing instead of a fake thing. Yes. At the beginning. And here's where it gets real fun That's wildly inconsistent like they have a fight scene at those the very first thing and you're like wow this looks pretty good This wow this yeah doing earth stuff and fire stuff. Wow. That's cool. That looks dynamic and then we cut to the the characters in the water kingdom and
Starting point is 00:48:03 Me and Paige are sitting there, and we're like why can we see the glue on their fucking wigs? Oh? No It's like some game of Thrones final season Fuck oh Jesus and the acting is really bad And the plot changes they've made don't, I don't get them and they seem shitty. Like they seem to have changed a lot of things.
Starting point is 00:48:31 Glue bending. They've changed a lot of things and you're like, okay, I guess that's reasonable for adaptation. But like the changes are all like less interesting and seem to be in the service of time, even though the run time of the full season of this is like only 45 minutes less than the entirety of the first season of the animated TV show.
Starting point is 00:48:51 So, well, this is gonna be the case for all Netflix adaptations, right? You're gonna get your 10 episode compression of multiple arcs of whatever anime or cartoon they adapt. And I'm curious to see, like like what arc they end at here because I'll end at the the water the end of the water thing they end at the water Okay, I'll just skip a shit ton of stuff Like like to continue on I'll just a couple of details that just stood out to me because I'm not gonna hate watch this thing
Starting point is 00:49:22 I don't have the fucking gumption or the time. From the first episode though. Yeah, just the first episode. Okay, one, yeah, you can see the glue on these wigs and these costumes are terrible. And number two is a fucking old woman points at the camera, like at the camera, and then offsets herself by about 20 degrees so she's not looking into the camera lens and goes that boy is
Starting point is 00:49:48 the last airbender and then it fucking hangs and it's dead silent and you're like are you fuck oh god um but the The real killer the friends are really long away which I wasn't like upset by this because they changed a thing, but I was sitting there going, oh, you know when you watch an adaptation and you look at a small minor change and you're like, oh, this is going to cause them real problems later. The first scene of Aang has him flying around. Like on his flight on his on a flight. No. Oh Just complete just superman. Yeah. Oh wow Superman. Okay. Wait, what the what?
Starting point is 00:50:32 He's standing on top of the air temple and he just like jumps floats down And flies around and then like Later on in the same episode and then... There's so many moments where his ability... Later on in the same episode, he almost dies falling off a cliff because he doesn't have his glider. You showed him! That's the thing! Exactly! The glider is a point that can be taken away from him
Starting point is 00:50:58 and then the air ball that he can travel. You showed it! And then eventually when you are in the Avatar state and you do float up, it's like, holy shit, He's got control of the whole yeah It's not quite a so like yeah, no you look at these changes and you're like I don't know what the hell their plan is long term for this because this seems like garbage Yeah, no like see like like Peter Parker's flesh web shooters are like not you can kind of ignore web for the rest of that story Once you introduce that idea this ain't that oh
Starting point is 00:51:25 boy, okay. Yeah, no thanks. No, absolutely no thanks on that one. Don't bother, don't hate watching. I'm so stressed about the UU Hawker show, Netflix thing going on too, because it's like one of my favorite anime's in my whole time and so I-
Starting point is 00:51:41 Apparently it's like the fastest moving plot. Oh yeah, that. Again, I just saw one. I need to watch that. I saw one fight scene that looked really well choreographed with the car door. Apparently that show gets into the dark tournament. Oh wow, so it did better than Tsunami
Starting point is 00:51:57 because Tsunami always stopped at the dark tournament for us. No, but it's only like six or seven episodes. Apparently it's just so fast. Hmm. Oh, well that's kind of a shame. Okay. Well look, one piece is on the board
Starting point is 00:52:09 for like pulling off the compressed arc. It's five, it's five episodes. You know, so it can be done I guess. It's just, what attention to do. But oh, but there's also. Do you know why one piece is so good? Like the core of it? Well, I think we talked about it.
Starting point is 00:52:23 It's because Mag um, uh, Mangaka was behind them with a gun the whole time. I thought that was the reason versus the creators of Avatar walking off the live action project. I thought that was the reason too. It was because Oda was there the whole time looking over their shoulders. Guess what, though?
Starting point is 00:52:40 Oda wasn't just there. He also had a kill clause. Oh, he could nuke it. OK. He could have nuked it. Yeah, he could just nuke it. Oda wasn't just there he also had a kill clause oh He could nuke it okay, yeah, he just nuke it oh If he was like this a piece of shit die that project would have never That's pretty good okay, and if you don't like it yeah, no nuke it that's great. That's pretty good okay and if you don't like it that's pretty yeah no nuke it that's great that's pretty cool yeah that's cool that's the way to do it I think the only thing that I consistently watch like that was like Netflix but like you know presented by Netflix was like that that Tim Robinson show I think you should oh that's a good fuck oh no that's a good fuck I brought
Starting point is 00:53:21 sloppy snakes to the to the podcast some time ago Used to be a real piece of shit slack back hair spaghetti That one I have like a guilty pleasure for really cheesy like psychological stuff, so I Like Netflix is you okay that one so that is so actually so now that I'm thinking about the last like three pieces of media that I consumed was like a Justin Long movie called Barbarian, which is a, it's a good horror movie. Oh, is that with like no dialogue? No, it has dialogue.
Starting point is 00:53:57 It absolutely does. And the only thing I'll say about it is, ba, ba, ba, ba, ba, ba, ba. And if you know, you know, that's it. That goosebumps show that just came out recently, back in October, it also has Justin Long in it. And yeah, Netflix U, that was it. Those are the only most recent things I've watched
Starting point is 00:54:18 and those weren't even that recent. Yeah, no, the adaptation train, I assume is is going to continue with with the way a lot of the the deals you side with Netflix work. The problem, of course, is always there's no incentive to really make a second season if they don't want to. Yeah, because once they like there's a whole bit where like once they make the Netflix adaptation of something they get you in if you're somebody who's like a fan of that. And once you're subscribed, you're like, well, we got you. You know, so Netflix has had a really like narrow view of this because it
Starting point is 00:54:54 leads to people not giving a shit about anything. If we got you on the role, then like might as well spend that money getting a group of people we don't have, you know, as opposed to giving you a second season of the thing, you know, so. I don't know, because people can just like cancel, but I guess a lot of people also do forget to cancel these types of situations. With streamers it is like that.
Starting point is 00:55:16 Yeah. I just, I've never trusted a Netflix adaptation of like anything anime since that shitty death note movie that I think years ago. That did happen. And that was, that just, in case you all forgot, that happened and I've never, I've never taken it seriously since and I've been so scared.
Starting point is 00:55:35 So scared. Anything else, Pat? Yeah, more hell divers. Guess what hell divers is fucking incredible. You should play hell divers. It's fixed, I hear. Yeah, I got in on Friday night Like just right in holy fuck. It's incredible. That's it. That's that's all I have to say about hell divers
Starting point is 00:55:54 Uh, mechs are coming. I saw a teaser for with someone getting into a Titan Yeah, and like with the same Titan crawling in animation and yeah, dude The the the fucking robots are pushing in on the Western front. Come on. So, you know that's lit across my desk. Yeah, all right Let's see what else they sent me a code to play Pacific Drive, which came out yesterday That games fantastic. It is Stalker but without guns, but instead you have a car. Oh, I remember the trailer for this. Oh, interesting.
Starting point is 00:56:28 Yes, yes, yeah. It was at, we were watching one of the game shows that showed it off. Yeah, it's like, yeah, a survival game that is your entirely in the car the whole time? No, no, you get out of the car and scrounge around and run from ghosts. Yeah, it looked really interesting though.
Starting point is 00:56:43 It's a roguelike, which I didn't think it was. So like you'll be like, I need to get to this part of the map and it will load you into multiple areas that are randomly generated. So you'll be driving your car to places, getting out, avoiding anomalies, be it mannequins that move when you're not looking at them
Starting point is 00:57:04 and try and kill you, or roaming electricity, or hidden radiation storms, or what have you, you'll be scrounging shit up to put into your car and build up your car, and then you'll be trying to get as many materials as you can before you try and teleport out, and you have to have a chase sequence away from like a almost like a pub g energy storm.
Starting point is 00:57:23 It's cool. The impression I got from the footage was that like the car is the game, is the main character. There's a huge amount of care to like, well you want these panels on your station wagon, what kind of panels do you want? You wanna put decals on it,
Starting point is 00:57:37 you want to be crew panel, steel panel, what type of tires you want? You want summer tires, you want all off road tires or what do you want? And when you're done customizing it, every third person shot of the car looks like a piece of shit. Oh, it's like a piece of fucking garbage. Every time, yeah.
Starting point is 00:57:52 Yeah, every single time. But it will protect you. If you've got all the doors and the trunk on, then radiation won't go into the car when you're driving around, which is important. It's got those brown wooden station wagon panels on the sides that are like basically indestructible, like an 18-wheeler can slam into that.
Starting point is 00:58:09 Well, let me tell you, it's not indestructible. It's really not. But it feels like it. It feels like it. Yeah, it's got that vibe. That car on the edge. That's really bad. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:58:18 Oh, what else? Oh, I'm playing Infinite Wealth. I've been talking about that. There is, I've- I want to play that so is it good I want to play it. I want to play it's the best one I need to play I need to get this there's only one thing I want to talk about I'm probably never talked about infinite wealth ever again. You know how I said hey man. You don't have to play through the whole series You can just go zero onwards or just start with seven and eight.
Starting point is 00:58:46 They have also said that it's a great time to get into Yakuza or like a dragon. Then you get to a section of the game in which and they showed trailers of this. This is not a spoiler. This is a mechanic that was known where you unlock key or use bucket list because he's ill. Yep. And it's like, Hey, these are things that he might want to do before, you know, blah, blah, blah cancer. And it unlocks like 120 or like 200 rememberances
Starting point is 00:59:12 all over the map where you walk up to them and hit it and then go, hey, remember that fucking stupid shit you did three games ago with that idiot that hasn't been mentioned For so long that if you thought they were dead or retconned out of existence Here it is Okay, mainline quest interesting go to Nostalgia missions yeah, so like here's a good example because you're playing zero right now, right?
Starting point is 00:59:44 So you go to the theater district and you walk up to the building on the east side of the theater district and here he goes, I remember going to the penthouse of this building, I met some weirdo named Tachibana. And he thought it was really cool to turn off all the lights in the city.
Starting point is 00:59:58 He has 10 seconds right now. Yeah, yeah. Right? And he talks more about it and get screenshots of your memories. Okay. And then you get upgrade points out of it. Like it's it's part of the way that you upgrade Kiryu. But I guess it also would if you didn't that's kind of interesting. If you were experiencing that all for the first time, I'm sure it would just hit you as oh, here's who just hit you as, oh, here's stuff advertising. Here's a long history of weird shit.
Starting point is 01:00:27 Like, and like, if you wanna go find out, you can, but you know that you're not gonna get all the context here, right? So that's true. But like, as part of the main story, when he's like knocked out, he'll have like flashbacks to like one-off events from different games that are never explained.
Starting point is 01:00:44 Wow, okay, okay. Like there was once where he passed out and you see the ending of Yakuza 5 from his perspective and then it just wakes up and there's no dialogue. And if you had to play that game, you'd be like, what the fuck was that? Oh, fuck just happened, yeah. So is there like a glossary to the going for, okay.
Starting point is 01:01:03 Oh, okay. Cause I'm like, is the thing that like, again, only FF 16 is doing it. But like, you know, remember the lore button, right? Well, the Yakuza 4 and 5 had a part of the menu that would show you every character and their names and their relationships to each other. And then at six, they just gave up on each other.
Starting point is 01:01:25 They gave up, oh man. Okay, damn. Also speaking of Yakuza, my friend wanted me to show you guys, cause this falls into both Yakuza and Tekken territory of conversation that we're gonna have. So my friend wanted me specifically to show you guys, yeah, my friend specifically me specifically to show you guys. Yeah, my friend specifically wanted me to show you guys his Tekken Yakuza, a lot of custom characters.
Starting point is 01:01:53 Oh, okay. Yeah. A Magima and a, is that Judgment Dude? It's Magima, Magima's brother, I can't remember what his name is. Sajima, Sajima, yeah. Sajima and the, like a dragon, Kiryu. Oh man, customization in Tekken is great.
Starting point is 01:02:09 You can go nuts. So like, hell yeah. The game starts to get really obtuse, like obtuse, with its callbacks. So when you're playing as Kiryu, you unlock like a super move called Essence of Remembrance, and during it he glows. Jesus Christ, that sounds so much more like our RPG epic than you would expect. So he glows.
Starting point is 01:02:33 Okay. He gets a spectral tattoo on his back, and it's the tattoo from the villain of three, the tattoo from the villain of two, the tattoo from the villain of one the villain of one okay but that's sick but that's like really that you rip off to it no no it's like glowing on say he's summoning the memory of those people wow that's cool that is fucking hard and it's like it doesn't say this is the guy from Yakuza 2. Holy shit! But if you know, you know, and it's so cool if you know.
Starting point is 01:03:06 Oh man, that's super sick. That reminds me of some Fist of the North Star kind of shit, too. Yeah. You know what I mean? Like Fist of the North Star had a lot of that stuff in that game. Of course, speaking of, during that Remembrance thing, like they even call back to non-canon spin-off games that don't exist.
Starting point is 01:03:27 Oh, okay. Oh, oh, oh, god damn zombie poster. Dead Souls. He's like, oh, it's weird, I had a dream where I fought zombies with a giant gun. That was weird, crazy. Oh my god. So on the front end of, on the front end of, in the bonus sections of Zero, there's a zombie fight mission. Yeah. Is that just dead souls? Basically? Is that
Starting point is 01:03:48 just what? Well, dead souls used a really awful shooting mechanic with with like terrible controls. But the zombies in that zero mission are from dead souls. Okay. Okay. Okay. Man. Gotcha. Dude. Oh, yo, pretty old. You in this universe summoning people's memories with a glowing Bell fuck okay. All right, that's super high Like I'm sitting there and I'm going through all these and it's like the only reason this is hitting for me The way it is is because I played zero one two three four five six seven Zero, one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, Gaiden.
Starting point is 01:04:25 Yeah. Like the, the ask, oh, and Dead Souls, and Ishin, and Kenzon. The old, the- What about Kiwami? What about Kiwami? Yeah, no, well Kiwami, supplants one, replaces right.
Starting point is 01:04:38 But like, for example, like there is, there's parts of the game in which they're not referencing Kiwami They're referencing one like there's music that got replaced in That is now back for this, but it's the version from one Instead of the one from Kiwami Mark Hamill shit Okay, no Mark Hamill music. Okay, no, but the Mark Hamill game. Yeah, no the Mark Hamill stuff. Yeah. Yeah, okay, okay Yeah, okay, the Mark Hamill stuff. Yeah, yeah, yeah, okay, okay. Yeah, okay, okay, okay.
Starting point is 01:05:05 Interesting, all right. It's crazy, it's like this massive, massive love letter like, hey, have you been playing these games since 2005? Here you go, everything you could have possibly wanted. That's so cool. So having just returned to zero, like a lot of people are asking about like what I'm gonna do regarding the front the series and I don't know
Starting point is 01:05:26 I'm just gonna take it one step at a time like my interest though is to go zero back to seven and Then kind of find you know Possibly consider a way of like finding out what happened in between But I'm not opposed to playing some of the in-betweens, perhaps off camera, I haven't decided yet, you know? So like, if you're gonna, if you're not,
Starting point is 01:05:51 if you're not going to play every single one, zero, seven, eight. That's the- But the moment you put foot into the next one, you have to go the whole way. Yeah, pretty much. Yes, yeah, yeah. If you even glance at it, okay.
Starting point is 01:06:10 Well, here's where it gets really, okay. Okay, I'm gonna try and decomplicate this as much as I can. The problem is that the games were all re-released and made in different times, so they all exist on this horrible spectrum. And they're not in chronological order. But Kiwami 1 is relatively new.
Starting point is 01:06:28 Kiwami 2 is very new. Yakuza 3, however, is now the oldest feeling and the shittiest one of the newer type games, yes. But, and here's the first one I tested. All of the emotional resonance for Gaiden and Eight for Kiryu? Or did you play the first eight chapters of Three, which is the shittiest oldest one? Right, right, right. Okay, okay. See, that would have been my other question of can I avoid playing Three if it is. Because like I've only played through Zero and fists at the North Star so like I know that I
Starting point is 01:07:06 Have all of them because like Sega just did a big sale Recently where you could got all of them for like 20 bucks or something and so I'm like I do like in theory I want to play all of them, but if it's genuinely fucking suffering so through three It's like how can I get away? and suffering, the play through three, it's like, how can I get away with that? You know what I mean? So here's the deal with three, is that the first, like, third of Yakuza 3
Starting point is 01:07:28 is you taking care of orphans. Like, like you're running the orphanage and doing little quests about taking care of the children is like the first third of that game. And a lot of people were like, I don't wanna do this fucking shit I want to do crazy crime shit. I want to be like a dragon later the problem is is that Here you taking care of a bunch of orphans is like the most important thing that has ever happened to him in his entire life
Starting point is 01:07:59 And becomes the basis for his whole character for the whole series of character works. It's everything I know about him now, yeah. Okay, the thing is for me, so again, my point of view was like I tested like early on a little bit of three when that was getting localized, and then seeing what that is, I would not have a problem with the mechanics of it, I don't think going back in time. It's mainly just a question of the time it would take
Starting point is 01:08:27 to go through the entire franchise. Oh, they're fucking huge. They're the most insane things ever. That's the only question. It's not about quality for me, it's just time. I love these games and I adore them and I have played all of them that have come out in English. But I dropped judgment too.
Starting point is 01:08:44 Sorry, I dropped judge, whatever the Sorry, I dropped, whatever the fuck, I dropped job loss judgment. I dropped dead souls, I dropped Ishin. Like I, I, I, Practicality for this issue. Who have followed it from the day one have not been able to keep up. Yeah, I will one way or another at least go,
Starting point is 01:09:04 like perhaps watch to catch up if there is a game I don't play, you know But yeah, that yeah, that's that's what I was like thinking of just like watching like somebody's like long play or if not a long Play some kind of like I would these are just the important parts that you need to know because I did that was like Kingdom Hearts Because I didn't want to play that because I did that with like Kingdom Hearts because I didn't want to play that the chain of memories or whatever because that was well because it was like originally like a what was it like a Game Boy Advance game or some 3D I didn't want to play the card shit well I well exactly you know I guess you avoided the
Starting point is 01:09:37 three chain of memories well kind of but like but in what the card shit with the original game it was fine but when you card shit with the original game, it was fine. But when you got into ReChain of Memories, it was like some kind of beat them up and took the difficulty of the AI from Kingdom Hearts one. And so the game becomes like relatively difficult for no reason. And I was just like, I'm not going to fight this. I'm not that big of a Kingdom Hearts fan to do this. But I'm like, but what the hell's going on? Yeah. So like, so, and so I watched like a, like a comprehensive, like, oh, this is just all the main story point, like here you go. So I might have to do something similar for Therese, it's just like.
Starting point is 01:10:13 Kingdom Hearts. Not fun. Yeah, Kingdom Hearts for me, I just, it's an itch unscratched and I just want to know what the fuck all this noise is about. You know, at some point. I don't know, there's, there's a Roxas and there's a Sora, but it's not a Roxas and it's not a Sora and I, I don't know.
Starting point is 01:10:30 Yeah, Norton and Genuine, Genuine, sincere power of friendship, you know? But I'm at some point, at some point I'm going to want to scratch that itch. So someone pointed out to me that Kingdom Hearts and Alan Wake are literally the exact same story and they're completely right. Like they're the same, like the plot is the same.
Starting point is 01:10:55 It's... I'm like sitting here and I'm thinking about it. I'm like, wait a fucking minute. What the fuck? Get this suture. It wouldjra. But that would involve if you could play as Walt Disney, then, right? Kinda, yeah. Kinda, yeah, sort of.
Starting point is 01:11:14 Yeah, it's pretty close. Gotcha. Well, if you wanna go real fast, Yakuza 4 has a recap of the first three games in its menu. Okay, okay, that's good. Oh, that's useful. But that's the last time they did that.
Starting point is 01:11:29 Okay. I was just like complaining about this, how like, cause like persona games, people are like so into persona games, and I would definitely be into them as well, but RPGs I cannot dip a lot of time into, cause sometimes I'll be like, oh, I have like a free weekend, let me just like play this. And then it's like, oh, now I dip a lot of time into because sometimes I'll be like oh I have like a free weekend
Starting point is 01:11:45 Let me just like play this and then it's like oh now I'm a month of traveling and being super understand and then when I try to come and play I don't remember what's going on I miss when fucking RPGs and I know I think um one of the more recent dragon quest games does this I know some of the pokemons said this where it was like oh this was the last thing that you this I know some of the Pokemon said this where it was like oh this was the last thing that you did and it shows you like a recap. Dude RPGs especially long fucking form RPGs need to do that shit. So badly. Like if a game has a detailed quest log that's usually good enough because I'll read it and be like oh that's this oh yeah okay yeah and that's fine too but like but persona and stuff they don't do shit like that like I played through like the first part of Persona 5
Starting point is 01:12:26 and I couldn't tell you anything about it other than that the school teacher was a creep. And I don't know anything. I don't know anything about it. So the two that come to mind recently, Baldur's Gate 3 and FF16, phenomenal coming back to it and going to, so in FF16 it's got its wiki dude You talk to wiki dude and he gives you what's going on with the character page by page up to the chapter
Starting point is 01:12:50 You're in and the last thing that happened and the last reveal that occurred right and then and all that and then in Baldur's Gate you just have a quest log and then you have a yeah You have the the main quest log of your side quest log and then your character individual growth Yeah, you have the main quest log, you have your side quest log, and then your character individual growth lines. And it's like, oh, you discovered that Shadowheart grew up like this. And I was like, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah,
Starting point is 01:13:12 I remember that conversation. So even if it's something that is not like a main quest or a side quest, it was just a little personal moment you had, that's logged too. So you just check those out, and you're caught right back up in like, you know, less than five minutes if you've been away for a while.
Starting point is 01:13:25 Phenomenal. Oh, that's dope. That's dope. See, more games to do. I came, I played judgment, like a dragon judgment, and did all the side content and then burned out a little bit
Starting point is 01:13:37 on like the second to last chapter. And then came back nine months later. And. Uh-oh. Yeah. last chapter and then came back nine months later. And... Yeah. Nope, didn't know. I just like, I'm just gonna have to figure it out as I go. Yep, yep, yep.
Starting point is 01:13:55 And then the villain showed up and my brain went, that's bad man, get him. And that's as far as I followed it from then on. Medicine, medicine. It's shady medicine. MGS one MGS one had a story so far feature, but it's such a short game. You don't really need it. You don't need it. But it did have one, you know, like a little paragraph would kick in.
Starting point is 01:14:16 Um, okay. So I mean, well, I have more to say about yak is like just more on your stuff though. No, I'm done. You want to see what's going on wealth this week? Go to twitch.tv slash Pat's set. There's infinite wealth. There'll probably be a sponsored stream this week. I haven't signed the contract though. So who knows? And then then the FF seven is happening. There's going to be a FF seven at the end of the week.
Starting point is 01:14:40 Oh, a new one demo update. Go what? What are full or full release? at the end of the week. A new one. Demo update. Cool. What? Full release? The game's out! Full release, yeah, it's out, yeah. Okay. Wally, what have you been doing?
Starting point is 01:14:56 A lot, brain tired. Brain tired, excuse me. Okay. Okay, so I'll pick back up with the, uh, the Yakuza talk there. Well, the prom's tomorrow. Yeah. I'm tired, boss. You know what I'm gonna, I haven't. I just felt the emotion.
Starting point is 01:15:22 I'm like, you're tired. You don't even have a brain to take care of You can't fucking always pull the baby That is the only reason I am convinced why you had a fucking baby just so that you could make so many Enough I have to kiss a tiny version. Look honest. Exactly. Like I was in Reggie we're talking yesterday and it's like literally it's like there hasn't we haven't had like a fucking day. Oh I know exactly. In a really long time this weekend weekend burning through. So we're gonna take actually a day or two this week
Starting point is 01:16:07 to breathe, like I'm getting, yeah, getting loopy. Tell me about Yakuza or WeMad. We are back to Yakuza Zero and I did have to go catch back up since it's been four years since I played Zero and got about, I don't know what percentage is the way through. 50%. Thankfully, there is a,
Starting point is 01:16:30 so there was the story so far for that game, I went back and kind of watched the major beats, and then as well for LPs and stuff that are on the channel, we've got notes for each thing. So going back through the notes and just reading about the side stories and the obitarian and the shorter peepee and all that So bro back up second the obitarian is in infinite wealth Yeah
Starting point is 01:16:57 From the fucking 80s Dude all the way 130 Yeah, she is Oh, that's incredible Dude all the way Unaging I hope man okay the same club. Yeah the fucking leopard ass stupid shirt That's powerful she's one she's one of the women who catfished you in the dating game. Oh Shit, shit. OK. Yes. That's interesting. So, yeah, no, we basically picked back up with taking
Starting point is 01:17:31 we got to the point where, yeah, Majima is with the blind girl and then like, is like, OK, you stay in the warehouse. I'm going to go figure shit out. Has she been in the warehouse this whole fucking time? She's been in the warehouse. He told her to stay there and she did. So, um, yeah, no, just, I mean, just at a glance with that coming back in, um, it's, like the energy is very wild because like, uh, uh, Reggie knows so much about like Japan and he like speaks, uh, uh, you know, a good bit amount as well.
Starting point is 01:18:04 Like, he's more fluid than I am with understanding and picking up like even written and stuff And he's never been yet. So this is like the closest thing he's having to visiting, you know and It is it is Those games really hit different once you've been to the locations there. They are in And it's particularly terrifying as well, because it's like, whereas I am horrified and afraid of Mr. libido, he is powered up by him.
Starting point is 01:18:37 He is, you know, so like I see, I see what's going on here. We're going to need to feel at the energy of how fucking wild and horny and insane this game gets at times. But I did finally unlock the Cabaret Club and Jesus Christ did I not know? Like I because I expected the QRU equivalent of like, you know, the real estate game.
Starting point is 01:19:01 And it's like, oh, yeah, put your real estate agent here, go to the place, put the money down, buy it in cash and you win a financial victory. And it's like, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Play dress up, pick your favorites, do a makeover. Manage these women. During the shift. Manage, yup, yup.
Starting point is 01:19:20 Crazy. That is such a good part of that game though. So I do, do you know what you get? For beating that mode. I don't know nothing about nothing you don't mm-hmm this the You want it? Okay? It's good. You want it? Okay? I'll get it. Okay. I'll get it. Oh That's a good enough. Yeah. I mean I I I did one round of it and was like, okay, I need a second to learn where information pops up because it's a beer tap game, right? It's like any sort of management business sort of thing.
Starting point is 01:19:55 Make the pizzas, whatever. But it's like, I need to know what indicators mean what and what does different pop-ups, hand signals, et cetera, that you have to interpret are, and then we can get a flow going. That mode is enormous. Feels like it can, yeah. If I remember right, there are like four acts to that.
Starting point is 01:20:16 Wow. Just the amount of slots you can see for like how many different staff you can hire and then the fact that you go through leveling up them individually to be like, we need to work on your charm. We need to make you more appealing with your funny stat or whatever.
Starting point is 01:20:31 Like, yeah, it's infinitely more intense than expected given how simple the real estate game turned out to be with Kiryu, you know? Because the tutorials for that seemed intimidating at first, but then it was actually quick and fine Yeah, nearly every Yakuza or like a dragon game has a mini game or two Which is large enough to be a full boxed right? Right, right, right, right. Yeah, just over here on the side if you feel like it
Starting point is 01:21:03 So yeah, I like I was gonna, in my brain I was like, all right, once we're back in, I'm gonna go try to relearn how to play Shogi. I'm gonna go try to learn how to play Majong a little bit. But it's like, no, no, no, no, no, no, fuck all that noise. Time to go Kabakura and just get into the proper management so that I can do
Starting point is 01:21:19 frenzy time or whatever the fuck the, I forgot what it's called. Part when you party time meter fills up and then you activate. Oh, with the gold. Yeah, and there's a picture of him holding a giant champagne bottle. Well yeah, dude, it's the gold champagne.
Starting point is 01:21:33 That's like 25,000 yen. 25,000 yen. 250 bucks, wow. Wow. Yeah, so, no, that's where my time is probably gonna be spent. And also, like running like a huge bitch from Mr. Shakedown because I'm about to get shook down. I don't remember how to fight him. Oh man. Oh, you don't you don't fight him
Starting point is 01:21:56 I figured him out last time but that was a long time ago. No, that was a president's ago He becomes a money pit and then he becomes a money machine No, that was a president to go he becomes a money pit and then he becomes a money machine Oh, he always scares me. I never cuz like what you lab them you discover like his animations never changed So you just you can just get oh, oh, and I don't remember how walking down the street at me I have to go re-remember the feel the feel of shake just run just run Just run be just just run be run. Be just run, be a counter run. He needs money to go to space to become the strongest living creature.
Starting point is 01:22:30 Ah! He bought a submarine, he bought a mountain, and it's not enough. Anyway, so yeah, yeah, yeah, Yack is back over on the channel. Also, I forgot to mention this last time, but real quick, as we're catching back up, I watched Advent Children with Punch Mom.
Starting point is 01:22:48 Yeah, how's that? Yeah, so, you know, it was so fascinating because I'm like, okay, I'm taking into account everything you guys just brought up, you know, when you went through it, and I'm reliving this and also, yeah, watching the extended cut where you get all whatever, the extra Denzel shit. But for Punch Mom, it's her first time seeing bad FF7? Oh, weird. And also, like, there's been a lot of like,
Starting point is 01:23:19 when she's jumped in and checked out different media recommendations and stuff, she's also been, again, very fortunate to mainly only check out cool shit. Not a lot of time wasted on herself. Well, I mean, you have Curator. Right, right, right. Based on, I'm like, where would you, try this out?
Starting point is 01:23:33 Do you like this? Okay, you might like that, et cetera, right? Yeah. So, when we get to like, yeah, we're going, you know, 60% of the way there and she's like fighting to stay awake. Yeah, yeah! And I'm like, are you okay? She's like, oh God, what?
Starting point is 01:23:49 But why are they doing what is, you know? And it's just like, yeah, I'm like, oh, like, yeah, you don't often have this feeling of what the fuck are we doing? Why is any of this happening? And it's made so much worse going through when like, so we talked about like the goofy ass voice acting, right? The fact that like Rufus is narrating the whole thing
Starting point is 01:24:15 and he's the most stilted, so you have to hear him the whole time. It's extra bad, dude. Hey, Wally, let me ask you, because like this really, this is the first time you watched the complete cut. Yeah. Okay. Was I right? Because like I remember the original cut being like, okay, 45 minutes to the good part and then the good parts 45 minutes. But now it's like an hour plus and you're like Denzel hanging out at the church for 10 minutes. I don't give a shit. So it tells you why or where Denzel came from,
Starting point is 01:24:45 which is it is nice to have some context, but it did not need to be anywhere near that much extra exposition. And like, yeah, just in the sum totality of the fucking the trio, there's just absolutely nothing to any of that. Hey, did you buy this phone? Did you see this phone?
Starting point is 01:25:03 I remember the one phone shot in the water, the most egregious one. I completely, I didn't remember the like three or four other ones as well. Anyway, just God yeah. So all of the shit you said last time except one thing that I will say even in the midst of like peak sleep and just like nonsense, is still fucking sick, is the Sephiroth transition is hot. The way that hits on the impact moment, and it's just an instant flash, that thing is really cool.
Starting point is 01:25:36 I really still like that one. And then he's just like, hey, what's up? Hey, sup. It's your boy. Yeah. Anyway, all right. I saw somebody, because I talked about it, now you're talking about it. It was in theaters recently.
Starting point is 01:25:52 Yes. And I saw someone describe that they feel that Advent Children has been replaced by remake, because Advent Children, like in terms of the remake storyline, Advent Children's like a side moment. And the big thing Advent Children had going for it was like, look at these cool, incredible CG graphics smiting Sephiroth. But now we just can do that.
Starting point is 01:26:16 It is not remotely mandatory viewing at all, unless you just wanna see what the cool new cloud outfit and bike look like with the new sword. But then you can just buy the toy and see that. Or you just place some ass, brother. There you go. Yeah. Anyway, the, this weekend, yes, was WeMad,
Starting point is 01:26:36 a Montreal staple. I'll be right back, I'm just gonna get a drink. I'll be back in 10 seconds. Okay, yeah, we had the winter edition of Montreal Air Dashes. So that is the big fighting game tournament that takes place over here. And yeah, we ran the Street Fighter and Tekken and other other a couple of the brackets over on Wally versus. I hope. Oh, if anyone was around and checked
Starting point is 01:26:57 that out, there was some good matches run in the whole weekend. And yeah, fighting games, fighting games happen. Oh, he I he literally did mean 10 seconds. Holy shit. I Wow, I There's there's a I entered a couple things and I kind of went I'll just enter a bunch and decide, you know how I feel about it on the day Played some samurai showdown. I had a ton of dust and rust on and I was like, I don't know how to fucking play this game. What'd you do against the other four combatants?
Starting point is 01:27:28 So... They own me four. It was a bigger bracket than that, fortunately, because that game is still fucking hype. One parry into Super, and I'm like, oh, motherfucker, I'm back. I love this game. This game is so sick.
Starting point is 01:27:42 I missed it so much. Got third place. I'll take it. This game is so sick. I missed it so much. Got third place. I'll take it. Not bad. Happy about that. We played in, yeah, so there was a Street Fighter 6 teams as well, teamed up with Reggie and Waka, his friend, and we kind of, I was in the middle of like multiple things
Starting point is 01:28:04 and commentating and well, so it was a bit chaotic, but running back and forth to teams and stuff, got third in Street Fighter 6 teams, not too bad. Congratulations. Hell yeah, let's go. That's half decent. That's hype. Yeah, and I think we carried our weight across, we all were managed to, you know, wherever someone else choked, someone else was able to carry a little bit, so good stuff. There was a preview tournament as well for a game called Iron Saga vs.,
Starting point is 01:28:31 which is basically a super robot war style fighting game. It's not from the people that make super robot wars, it's a different company that they made a, like a gacha game called Iron Saga, and now they're just kind of making it into a fighting game. It's got Mazinger in it, it's got Dan Kuga, it's got Boss Borat, it's got all these references to you know, super robots if you like that shit,
Starting point is 01:28:55 and a bunch of original designs as well. There's a kind of like a epion looking kind of Gundam-esque you know, original character and a couple of the really cool sword robots doing their thing. It was pretty fun. Check it out on Steam, you know, see if you're at all, like me, where you've been seeing a bunch of
Starting point is 01:29:14 super robot games for years and years, but you're like, please make a fighting game someday. This is basically what we're getting, you know, the closest thing and yeah, there's a hint that they're gonna get other licensed characters in there as well. So I'm always down for the celebration of robots that we love kind of game. And you know, they got like,
Starting point is 01:29:33 Super Robot Wars got Gurren Lagann, obviously at points. It got virtual on in there unexpectedly. It got big O's. So anything like that, I'm just like big it up. Go check it out. It was a pretty fun one. That's cool. Got, yeah, again, for one day I got, I think, a fifth in that bracket, so not too bad.
Starting point is 01:29:53 Then every time there's a big tourney, there's always a what are we going to do after the tourney is kind of wrapping up and everyone's getting drinks and just bringing it down? What are we going to play to kill time and just fucking chill? Nidhogg is a great game for that. We've learned, you know. The shame they never made a fucking sequel, man. Meh. I don't think it needs one, I really don't.
Starting point is 01:30:18 We've gotten into, there's a really great game called 510 and like, you with you if wherever Anyone who's like is around in person and having drinks with me teach you guys how to play that It's the best fucking game, especially if you like fighting games ever just good drinking and fun type things, you know I remember that next time I see you. I have gotten into a new game called Crocanole Okay, how the fuck do I spell that? C-R-O-K-I-N-O-L-E.
Starting point is 01:30:51 This is a board game... What the fuck? ...that originates in Canada. It was invented in Ontario. Oh, God! Croc-a-n-ole fucking rules. Some chess-to energy here. Yeah, what's up, Spider? I see you. God, crockin' old fuckin' rules. Some chest two energy here.
Starting point is 01:31:06 Yeah, what's up, Spider? I see you. This game rules. Okay, so I've all, take like curling in your brain. I knew it was fuckin' curling when I looked at the board. Take some curling, right? And I've always liked from afar, I've admired some of the cool shit about curling, the slide and the brush and all that.
Starting point is 01:31:26 I've talked about how me and some friends wanted to make a curling manga back in the day. It was sick. The curling rock had a, we had one with a special yin yang on the bottom of it and it spun and it was wild. Anyways, it take that vibe and then take Shuffleboard, which shout out to the combo con and Hunter going down and at the VFW
Starting point is 01:31:47 You know, it's the game that a bunch of old vets will play and it's like a you slide with friction and the right amount of force you try to get into the perfect zone on this really You know waxed out board and so this is that kind of energy, but it's with your finger and it's a small piece you have a big circular board and that kind of energy, but it's with your finger and it's a small piece. You have a big circular board and there's kind of like almost like a dartboard style from outside to in. There's different points that you can make for being closer to the bullseye. But around the bullseye, there's a bunch of metal, like,
Starting point is 01:32:16 pebb plugs that kind of stick out and are like a little blocking Plinko forest almost, you know. And so your goal is to slide with a flick of your finger, your little, your little piece to slide and stop right in the middle. You're just grabbing finger curling. It's finger curling. And there's a hole in the middle,
Starting point is 01:32:37 which is worth the maximum number of points. So if you're super sick, you can slide it and get a hole in one, right? With a little, a little like. I don't know what the fuck curling is. Look it up. Look up curling. It's Olympic sport.
Starting point is 01:32:49 It's the sport where people are sliding and people have brushes and they're doing the booms. You know? Yeah, the booms. Anyway, so it's finger curling and it's so much fun. And like, we got it as well. And shout outs to Bode who came with his board and he's like, yo, I just waxed it.
Starting point is 01:33:04 I brought the extra little chalk to make sure the stones can spin properly. Like halfway through getting into the game and kind of getting gobetter at it, you learn some tech where you can like, one side of the stone spins with more friction than the other, so you have like two settings for each one and you can like slide it perfectly,
Starting point is 01:33:21 and you either have to like, yeah, land in the middle or hit your opponent's stone out to the gutter, and then you count the points at the end. It's so fun. It's unsettling. A board game that I could show up with and be like, oh man, I got the board all greased up, let's go.
Starting point is 01:33:38 Yes. Someone greased me. Absolutely, there's a whole strat to what type of what type of grease and waxing that you're gonna use. You can lean, there are rules where you can lean to the side but you cannot move your chair, okay? Your chair must stay in place. You can lean to one side or the other,
Starting point is 01:33:58 but you must maintain one ass cheek on the chair at all times. Is that a house or is that like? That is a real rule. One ass cheek on the chair at all times You can you can lift that is a 10 lift one ass cheek off the chair, but one must remain in contact So so do you have a referee that always just has their hand close to your ass to make sure we had a Rest at least one ass and he may cause ways on I Yes, so by looking at y'all's booties, so you had somebody looking at a booty the whole time. I dropped this cake halfway off the chair just to get the right angle. And it was, I'm verified, it's legal, all right?
Starting point is 01:34:37 I'm balanced, I'm doing a half squat, but I have one rested and I was able to make a really tricky shot by leaning to the side and doing it, you know? It was, it's such a good ass game. And like, I'm now like, okay, gotta go get a board, gotta figure out how to do this. And this winter weather we're going through right now
Starting point is 01:34:57 is not kiting weather, but you can get inside, get some drinks and play some fucking crocodile. So, I have to tell you, you surprise get inside, get some drinks, and play some fucking crocodile. So I have to tell you. You you surprise me with shocking regularity in the broadness of your tastes and the depths of your convictions, because one day you're not going to be able to play fighting games anymore. And you're so adamant about not getting into MMOs
Starting point is 01:35:32 that you've decided to learn a bunch of old man shit, like shuffle board for your fingers and kiting. I don't see an issue. Right past the MMO part. See what you what you good. Skip the fucking MMO part. Anybody who I don't know. Don't do it.
Starting point is 01:35:54 I say it. Anybody who fucking has any self respect will not get into a fucking MMO piece of shit. Oh, I said it. Damn, I'm going to fight me about ite piece of shit. Oh my god! Oh! Oh! Damn. I said it! Fuck it, fight me about it! Fuck it, fight me about it!
Starting point is 01:36:09 How can you say? No, I got, I got a daily's to do! I got, I don't got time! Good! How can you say something so controversial and get so brave? Damn! God, I'm so brave.
Starting point is 01:36:22 Oh, I'm so fucking brave. That's crazy. You need to tone it down with the truth. You're getting out of control There's are so fucking Like I got a bunch of people on my chat going so how long how old do you think it's appropriate to let him do like crafting on your character and like what? Yeah, my dad told me I was playing world of warcraft, but I was just mining shit for him when he was at work. So the funny thing about do not do that to your mini potato, Pat.
Starting point is 01:36:52 Don't. Oh, no. Don't. The funny thing about what you're pointing out, Pat, is that if you were, if you if you saw the way all of these activities unfolded, the hand game, the fucking old man shuffleboard sliding crock and old shit The you know the knit hog the turf neo turf masters the golf game that is a huge hit as well You watch the way everyone is playing it and you're like oh Everything is fighting games. It's just we're doing the same thing. You can't know we're doing fighting games it's just we're doing the same thing you can't know we're doing yes you can we're getting into at combo con and we were getting into shuffleboard
Starting point is 01:37:31 like fucking fighting games in this case you're getting into this crock and all it was such an insane person woolly fucking doesn't. I completely understand what he's coming from. Wully, what you're saying is that games are games. So what I am saying, this is, okay, coming from me who obviously, this is the whole bit, what I'm actually getting at is everyone who is into competitive ass play gets into these things in that same hype excited manner and we get really competitive about whatever the fuck it is
Starting point is 01:38:10 and it's a really good time, right? And if you're also into the FGC as big as like Woollie and at one point I was, everything you can convert into a fucking money match because you're so FGC, constantly money match, I will tell you a fucking funny story. It was like it was like me and a couple other like prominent FGC people and we were all fucking bored, but we were so angsty to do money matches for shit. So somebody had a fucking Nerf gun
Starting point is 01:38:35 and everybody threw in a dollar and we're all standing in a circle and we're all playing fucking Russian roulette. There you go. Nerf God and money matching each other for just like just because like like, dude, when you're so into the fucking FGC, everything is a goddamn money match. Which is, it's the competitive energy gets stupid, right? Yes, it absolutely is. You find a way, you find a way to turn anything into that.
Starting point is 01:38:56 You find a way. And like, so like, this gets brought out to, like, someone will bring out their grandpa's game and go like, yo, y'all know about this shit, what you know about this? And I'm like, I've been in Canada my entire life. I've never seen that. And he's like, sit your ass down.
Starting point is 01:39:10 You're gonna learn how to fucking play, you know? And you do it and you're like, oh shit, there's tech. Oh shit, there's this, there's that. We're getting, and then all of a sudden it's getting, yeah, it gets all fucking, you got a bracket right in. Someone pulls out a sheet of paper, you know what I mean? It just gets going. So, it's true.
Starting point is 01:39:26 It's all about that. I will find that in any hobby I'm into. Whatever it is, I'm going to search for that energy, man. I'm thinking back. And my dad did me a massive, massive favor when I was a child in that he taught me, he taught me not explicitly, but through instruction to not get into money matches for anything because he's like okay Pat will play Blackjack or
Starting point is 01:39:50 and then we were played hold them with me and my brother and my sister and he just made the cards go wherever he wanted them to go and won every hand for an hour okay and he's like see that's why you don't play cards with people for money. Okay, okay, yeah, so that's a wild way to instill that lesson. It really is because that's not typical, I don't know. But the thing here that, and I'm seeing,
Starting point is 01:40:20 folks are like, you're just getting into gambling. And it's like, there's absolutely that wild element that kicks in, especially when we're in like fucking Vegas and Ed Evo doing, you know, playing games and whatnot. But like, the reason why poker in particular like pops off with like the community and like other games that are more direct are that it's not just like we're sitting down
Starting point is 01:40:41 and like rolling roulette or it's not just a gamble. It's the competitive aspect. It's the thing that I'm playing against somebody else in a game of skill. And like, um, if I can learn to do things that make my play better and more likely to win than yours and I can like find ways to, you know, manipulate or like use things against you to play strategy, strategically against you, it's the opposition that makes it so much fun. It's not just a random gamble chance. It's not just the dice roll.
Starting point is 01:41:07 Yeah, because to me the gambling in a money match was always, I don't know how good the other person is. You think you can take them, but you don't know for sure. Yeah. Or I could take them super easy and they're in the hot seat over there. And more often than not, there is there is yo my boy can absolutely destroy your the best player from your city let's go you know and you put you have that shit rise up in those nuts but anyway that's what it's that competitive
Starting point is 01:41:33 shit so I'm a fucking I'm I'm all about this Croc and all I'm like it's I'm super it is so much fun in fact yeah so uh, who had the board there, was talking about how he's, he filmed a couple times at tour after tournaments where they had like a little bracket and played and then he uploaded it to Twitter, you know? And so one time they had like, oh, grand finals, these two players were getting, uh, uh, uh, their final matches on and it was really cool. And people in different crock and old communities on the internet exist in like follow and watch and stuff and there's a scene for this game in Japan and a Japanese player found the footage that said grand finals and was watching and basically
Starting point is 01:42:15 commented like why are this is such low-level play for something grand labeled grand finals? Why would they not be flicking? To the center when the end is obviously the more strategic play at this point in time oh my god oh my god the Japanese community found the footage and is like judging it that's sick that is so fucking awesome and so funny what the fuck this shit goes deep this shit goes deeper than you would think. We did not know. Did not know what was going on. Yeah, the next level.
Starting point is 01:42:47 The crap of game goes deep, dude. It's waiting. It's waiting for us if we ever want to get to that point. Anyway, good times. Shout outs to the Air Dashers running a great event every year. It's the Premier Montreal Tournament every time. And yeah, this is the winter edition. There's going to be the one, just called UMAD.
Starting point is 01:43:07 So, you know, from UMAD to UMAD, Ultimate Montreal AirDash is coming up in summer as well. Good stuff, check them out and yeah, I hope to work with them on more stuff and stream it on Wally versus as well. Beyond that, yeah, not much else. I, in Half-Life 2, I obtained the power of Beast Lord, and I did not know that that game featured a Pikmin-esque,
Starting point is 01:43:30 Olimar section where you're sending out ant lions after people instead of shooting. And that's a whole lot of fun getting through Nova Prospect and the prison and everything with the, your beckon-called army behind you is pretty sick. The the the the radios of of you're coming in and people on comms are like getting ready to fight you and shit. But like you're rolling up with a whole crew and they find ways to jump into the
Starting point is 01:43:56 towers as well. That's a whole awesome section of the game. Really enjoyed it. Um, and then had a big long jail cell wave survival battle and got super queasy by the end of it and had to call it a day. So having a great time, our stomachs aside, I can still appreciate Half-Life 2 and what's going on in it, no matter
Starting point is 01:44:21 how badly I'm playing and how badly my stomach wants to fucking eject. It's good shit So yeah, we are gonna be Coming back we're gonna take we need some yeah, we need some downtime So I'm gonna need a weekend gonna take a day or two, but at least one day this week We'll come back with some more Yakuza zero probably Thursday and Then this weekend We're heading out to,
Starting point is 01:44:47 there's a Red Bull, Kumite premiere event happening in Toronto, so we're gonna go check that out. And just hang around and watch what's going on with the fighting games over there. But until then, we're gonna get at least one session of Yakuza, and so come check it out over on Wally versus on YouTube
Starting point is 01:45:05 and on Twitter, Twitch, excuse me. Okay. Nice. I think that's it. Let's take a quick break. Hey, before we go, why the fuck did Tekken players call Ragequitter's pluggers? What the fuck is that?
Starting point is 01:45:24 I don't know. Dude, I've never heard that before. I saw people talking about that. I thought they were talking about like ass play and like vibrating cheating. I've never heard that. Scrum quotes has been talking about it. I've never. That's chest tech and we're not there yet. Oh, well yeah. It yeah. On pluggers. No, we have not yet gotten to buttplug coaching tech. But one day.
Starting point is 01:45:52 Not yet, I will. It's not yet. Not yet. All right. Yeah. One. The RB. OK, let's take a quick word from our sponsors.
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Starting point is 01:49:12 since we've reported on a layoff story. Oh, goody. Oh no. Which one is this? Objective Survive 2024 continues. Supermassive Games has laid off 90 staff, about 30%- Slightly less supermassive, huh? Slightly. Supermassive Games has laid off 90 staff, about 30 percent. Slightly less supermassive, huh?
Starting point is 01:49:27 Slightly less supermassive, about 30 percent of its workforce. And this is... Bro, that's a deep cut. That is a deep cut. Jesus. Oh my God. And this, I'm sure, bodes especially well, given that they are literally weeks after announcing the Until Dawn remake and movie that-
Starting point is 01:49:47 Oh, goody. Were both like from about a month ago? Yeah, it's, it's- That's- So, we've been literally every week, there's been just a combo of, hey, what's happening here? What's happening there?
Starting point is 01:50:02 How big is the cut? How bad's it gonna be? How many people are just out on their ass? The the way it's going like we've seen like like phases of this throughout the years This one is going to have an insane effect on anyone new coming into the industry like This this one is going in such a way where like I think anyone who's getting a CV together to try and be like, I wanna make video games. I wanna figure out how to apply here or work there.
Starting point is 01:50:29 It's gonna create a much more gig economy feel to everything, because they're like, I'm just gonna touch base on this project for two seconds and expect to be out. You're always gonna be updating your resume. You're always gonna be looking elsewhere. There's a time where you used to be able to breathe a little easier, that you're like, okay, resume, you're always gonna be looking elsewhere. There's a time where you kind of breathe, you used to be able to like breathe a little easier
Starting point is 01:50:47 that you're like, okay, I'm on a project, we're at a place where this is a, you know, there's good potential for me to move up, things are, you know, looking a little solid right now and I can feel kind of good about that, you can literally never feel good. It's creating that change right now in people, I'm sure. It's creating that change right now in people, I'm sure.
Starting point is 01:51:10 See, man. This shit sucks, right? It's funny people, did you fire this morning, Sheena? Right? Myself, myself. See, but that's what's so tragically shitty about a lot of the stuff is that like some of these friends, like some of my friends were some of the people that have been laid off over the past couple of like months and shit like that, you know,
Starting point is 01:51:32 and it's like, and, and actually at magfest, we did a panel about like how to get in the industry right now when all of this shit is going down, you know, and it's, it's definitely like one of those situations situations like it's so fucking devastating for people. But like, at some point, it's, there's got to be some crazy like Phoenix rising up from the ashes shit, you know what I mean? And it's going to start like, a new wave of studios and a new wave of like development and things like that. It's just right now, it's just so fucking shitty.
Starting point is 01:52:04 Yeah, you know what I mean? But like. It's just, right now it's just so fucking shitty. Yeah. You know what I mean? But like it's not gonna stay that way forever, but right now it's just so devastating and like so tragic and like, the thing is, is like, and some people don't even have the tools or the knowledge to potentially start their own studios. And some people don't even want to do that things either.
Starting point is 01:52:23 You know, so it's like, what do you do? Yeah. Right? Like what is that type of situation that you do? Interestingly enough, like, you know, GDC always puts out these like surveys where it's just like, oh, like how long have you been in the games industry, you know, and the big amount of people, like the longest that people stay in the games industry is I believe I
Starting point is 01:52:45 think it's like five to seven years is the biggest is the biggest and then it plummets immediately after that five to seven mark then it significantly goes down like lower and lower and lower you know a sort of thing and because like the games industry is like such a difficult thing because like it not only is a fickle, but also it's just one of those things too, what with like all of these layoffs, you know, people just like get disheartened about it, you know, and again, with people who don't know how to run their own studios or where to go next because they don't know what to do, you know, then it just makes them want to dip out of the out of the
Starting point is 01:53:24 industry in general. And it's like such a tragic fucking scenario for a lot of these people. And I feel like it's even right now people who want to get in the industry, I feel like they're getting discouraged because of the layoffs right now. You know, yeah, but like, it's not going to stay this way forever, though. Like, I, I have been in games. I've been in the games industry for about like 11 or 12 years at this point, you know what I mean? And like it's like I said, it sucks right out. It does. It really does. But it is not going to be this way. Yeah, the the hope is always that exactly like there's there's, you know, yeah, an other side to it. The the the types of shit that would be great to cementing things like this from happening where it's like,
Starting point is 01:54:09 oh, our profit's looking down, okay, fucking ax half the staff or whatever to just make the quarter look a little bit better for your investors. Like, if you're not in a place where you're gonna get new, or better, labor protection laws, then theoretically, a union should be able to step in and help with this type of thing. And this is especially an industry where,
Starting point is 01:54:32 because people are coming in with a passion for the thing where you're like, I love these things I wanna put, as much, you know what I mean? Like it's like, a lot of people get jobs that like you go into out of passion. And but like this is an industry definitely where it is ripe for like exploiting people who are kind of coming in somewhat idealistic about like what they hope to work on. They're working for your the company that made your favorite games or so you know and you're like just in a perfect point to be exploited in
Starting point is 01:55:01 that way. It seems as if however, in every step of the way, while we've been seeing these efforts pop up here and there, there's been just as many like shutting it down, right? When anything gets off the ground and running, it's like, oh, well, we'll find another reason to completely axe that team in particular. But the fact that it's being discussed more often than it was when we first started podcasting, for example,
Starting point is 01:55:27 is still a trend towards a positive thing. It's just when is it gonna get past that massive roadblock that is like the inability to get, again, better labor protection, I'm not sure. I feel like. It's not only just better label like the labor protection But it's also just like a lot of these people go in thinking that like these studios are still in there like lorry days You know what? I mean
Starting point is 01:55:51 But like 90% of the the studios that you grow up or wanted to be in are like just former husks of themselves Yeah, and are and are all are all just run by truly investors. What I mean, it's entirely based off of investors. Like one company I work for, I won't name it, but if you know me well enough and if you've heard me do these panels, you know exactly what company I'm talking about. But they were just completely, entirely run by investors and brain dead CEOs that basically were like,
Starting point is 01:56:23 oh, what's the new popular thing right now? Okay, let's replicate that, and let's monetize this shit out of that. Okay, cool. And then it's like, oh, all of a sudden, if our revenue dips below, I think it was like, 200,000 a month or some stupid shit, we're gonna pull the fucking plug.
Starting point is 01:56:39 You know what I mean? And it's just like, you know, even though we had a lot of concurrent players in this one project I was working on like a significant concurrent like player base. It was just the fact that they weren't pulling in like this 100 like 100 thousands upon thousands of days that to them. That was not good enough to see you know is and to that so then it's like you get pulled off this project and a bunch of people either get let go. It's like you get pulled off this project and a bunch of people either get let go Or they get shuffled around to another project and then have to play that same song and yeah You know what I beat and it's just like the reality is is that like triple a is entirely just like shit
Starting point is 01:57:14 You know and it's like it's one of those things anybody who wants to get into triple a genuinely I just I really wouldn't recommend it Yeah, I know that it's like ideal But especially if we don't have any kind of union or like labor protection like being in triple A is like one of the most dangerous things that you could possibly do for your career, you know, like current. Well, again, the ability of the idea of walking in knowing noted that the rotating door that you walked through spun spins the other way is against. It's going to create exactly people that are much more, you know, ready to jump elsewhere as soon as possible. But yeah, the people that, I mean, at any time you're making these decisions in a way that, we say it every week, but it's like, you know, okay,
Starting point is 01:57:54 the ProzD video where it's just like, who's making the decisions? It's the guy at the desk, the investor desk going, money, money! Mwah, wah, wah, wah, and just literally, there's no, it doesn't make any. But it's true. Yeah, there's zero consideration for like, what you're making, where it's going,
Starting point is 01:58:13 who you're appealing to, what the, no, no, no, no. We don't have time for that shit. Give me my quarterly return or fuck off, you know. Fresh off the disaster that is Suicide Squad. Mm-hmm. know, fresh off the disaster that is Suicide Squad. Let's all get excited for five to ten games that are markedly worse versions of Helldivers because they were made in like 18 months by teams that didn't have the resources they needed to kill like ten more studios. We love that, so cool.
Starting point is 01:58:46 So I am not and have never been in Game Dev, but there is one thing about this batch of, well, year of layoffs that feels different to me than it always has been. So five years ago, you'd see like, ah, such and such a company got layoffs. And what would happen is, whoever would be the most senior person
Starting point is 01:59:09 that got laid off or from that team, they'd go, hey everybody, bunch of talented people coming out from Take Two or wherever the fuck. And then it would be like this mass frenzy on that talent to scoop them up into other studios. Like the revolving door, right? You know, you go in and you go out. The problem is is that everyone's going out
Starting point is 01:59:33 all the doors at the same time. Yep. Mm-hmm, yep. And that's what's so shitty about it too. There's some talented friends of mine that got let go and I would love to hire them, truly. But I am myself, I'm still this small little indie person myself.
Starting point is 01:59:50 You're going to hire 22,000 people this month? Yeah, exactly, man. It's just like- Pick up the entire super massive staff. Now, do it. Yeah. Now, right now. And I feel like game dev is also in this like really terrifying state Financially as well just because like and I'm sure you guys talked about it on a podcast previously. I don't listen. I'm so sorry I mean No, stop trying to make straights ahead of thing
Starting point is 02:00:33 I was talking to a friend recently at magfestor I was like, I'm sorry I don't watch your content, but I listen to your music cuz I like your music more than your hey Oh, yeah, and they were like they were like no, that's good. I like that. I than your story. Hell yeah. And they were like, they were like, no, that's good. I like that. And I'm like, OK, cool. But yeah, so like, you know, I'm sure you guys covered it like the shit with Unity. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 02:00:52 Disasters. Like that crazy financial clause. My absolute clown shoes. Absolute clown shoes. And if that actually went through, and I talked about this because I had a giant thread running around on, you know, on Twitter, if that went through day one, January 1st, I would have straight up owed a unity like $200,000 or some shit like day one.
Starting point is 02:01:12 That just makes you so excited to work right in the future with the stroke of a pen. Just your life fucking ruins just like over just at a whim, you know, on a on a whim. And so I really truly think that a lot of people got scared about game development. And I think a lot of these CEOs and all this bullshit were like, oh, well, look at that. Let's just save some costs, because look at all these other companies that are doing some bullshit that
Starting point is 02:01:36 are similar thing right now. Like I said, Game Dev is in just this fucked up state right now. And I just don't really know. I have literally never known Game Dev to not be in a fucked up state right now. And I just don't like to really know. I have literally never known Game Dev to not be in a fucked up state. Yeah, it's just how, it just, it just, it oscillates. The degree, the degree of fucked up. That's the, but Pat, it oscillates between light poison
Starting point is 02:01:58 and toxic. Yeah. Right, you just- And right now we're in toxic right now. You just don't know how much life you're losing. You're never healing. It's just how much are we losing. That You just. Yeah. And right now we're just don't know how much life you're losing. You're never healing. It's just how much are we losing? That's it. Yeah. So yeah.
Starting point is 02:02:09 Well, hey, to speaking of Triple A or Corjupal A or, you know, like all you got to do is just look at what works and fucking latch on to that. Triple A games, skull and bones. No, I'm actually talking about AAA game Crazy Taxi. Hey, hey, hey, alright. Oh, do you mean the gas? Oh, shit. Games as a service, live service, Crazy Taxi?
Starting point is 02:02:32 Last week, there was a bit that came up where it was like, uh-oh, there's an interview where Sega's bringing back Crazy Taxi and they're implying that it's gonna be a big old AAA thing and it's gonna be a scope that is, I forgot the exact phrasing, but it implied that it would be this massive new kind of open world thing. And it was really like, okay, I'm nervous,
Starting point is 02:02:58 can we just touch base? Can we bring the franchise that a lot of people want to enjoy back into existence and not immediately fuck it up please? But no, that's too much to ask, right? So right after we finished last week, a bunch of leaks, so in particular there's a leaker who does a lot of Atlas-based stuff that comes out.
Starting point is 02:03:24 Midori, who basically confirmed that yes, the new crazy taxi game is a live service 100 person survival mode game. It'll be styled after Fortnite. There will be events, collaborations, and customization and such. I didn't hear that part. I didn't hear that part.
Starting point is 02:03:43 It is a gas. Peace, goodbye. Aka. Bye. Jesus. Shit. It is. Jesus fucking Christ, man.
Starting point is 02:03:53 It is a, hey, hey. Back up, back up. Here, here. Hold up. Hey. She's not coming back. I'm barely hanging on. All right.
Starting point is 02:04:01 Well, it's over. All right. Games is a service reboot planned. Yes. GTA Online and Fortnight are some of the main inspirations for the Super Game Plan. Helldivers is blowing up and it has a fake battle pass. In it, Sega wants to be competitive in the live service scene and they want to use the classic IPs in new ways with new technologies.
Starting point is 02:04:26 Both Crazy Taxi and Jet Set are live service games that also are having remakes before the reboots release. Jet Set is closer in gameplay to Fortnite than Crazy Taxi. There's going to be shooting elements planned. There's graffiti and shooting gameplay and open world concept of exploration in focus. So, so like again, this is a leaker, right? Now the person has been accurate in the past about some other stuff, but still nonetheless a grain of salt, but it sounds insanely believable given the interview about the open giant triple A scope of crazy taxi.
Starting point is 02:05:03 And the fact that anyone who gives a fuck about crazy taxi just wants to drive the taxi to the person Drop them off at the thing and have the guy you look cool. Yeah, okay Get in yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, like plays. That's it. Yeah that that part um Um, it's it's believable though because this is like what I was like This is you just like prove my point, right? About like how I was saying investors just follow Whatever is the fucking popular thing and right now like fortnight is like huge again, right? Like not that for
Starting point is 02:05:38 You know, I feel like we're having we're having like another resurgence. Yeah all that kind of stuff And so like yeah, it's a leak But it's genuinely so fucking plausible because again, it's just a bunch of investors going hey The kids like that and you know what the kids like the kids like the heavy metals in the punk rock Yeah, we should do something like that, but you can do that. I P. Do we well? That's the thing It's the fact that you dig up the grave and you excavate the skeleton to then dunk it in acid You know like you could have done this without that step. Yeah
Starting point is 02:06:10 Yeah, money and monetization and live service bullshit like I you've read that whole thing and I just feel so tired all of a sudden It's it's beyond exhausting. I'm at somebody. I was feeling pretty cool and energetic, and now I just feel like it lay my head down and take a fat fucking nap. Yeah, look, I mean, as happy, like it's like, hey, Jet Set Radio exists, you've acknowledged it again, that's cool. Anyways, turns out, Bomber of Cyber Funk
Starting point is 02:06:42 was right to exist. But it's not, but it's not. Yeah, that was gonna say, but it's not. If this is where we're going, I don't want it. Turns out Bob Ross cyber funk was right to exist because If this is where we're going I don't I don't Do it say to the industry so there you go there you go if this is what they're trying to stop you from doing graffiti shoot them with your gun I can't wait for our battle royale shinobi game and our fucking... Oh, that was old though.
Starting point is 02:07:08 No. And yeah, just Streets of Rage, Gacha. Like, I don't know. I don't know what any of it is, but... You need to stop talking because it's gonna will it into existence. Like, we're plugged into the game. I don't have crazy talk.
Starting point is 02:07:23 That's past that. That's my thing I got to talks. That's past that but that's my thing Yeah, but I just We can't have sorry you can't have a nice thing is all so no we can't this is why we can't have We can't have shit in the well. Here's what you can have Sega what you can have is fucking Like a dragon apparently an infinite wealth with their what's it called? What's the crazy tax? Crazy eats crazy eats and they release a combination of uber eats and crazy tax They released a dream-cast cover of like itch bond with the crazy eats logo going like yeah, so Just play this I Yeah, and I will watch me
Starting point is 02:08:03 Anyways, so so there you go. Do that many games incredible. It's probably going to be better than the full Crazy Taxi. Whatever they're doing now. Yeah. Yeah, so, so, so there you go. State of the industry. It's clock reset. We'll see what company is on the block next week. If we can... Not Nintendo. Not Nintendo.
Starting point is 02:08:25 Not Nintendo. Well, I mean, Japan in general hasn't come up too much with any of these things because they've got a lot of strict labor laws in Japan. My understanding is that you can't do an en masse like layoff unless the company is specifically in going bankrupt or you can prove that you're in danger of folding.
Starting point is 02:08:46 Oh, that's a great idea. So it's like. Like you actually need to prove that you need to cut people. You have to prove that you're in a dire financial situation before you can do a big layoff. So that's apparently why that, you know, goes so differently. How do we get that here?
Starting point is 02:09:03 How do we, well. I don't know. I mean, there's a million steps between here get that here? How do we, well. There's a million steps between here and there and then a lot of, yeah. All right, well, okay. How do we come back from that? There's some fighting game news. There's a bunch of it actually, so there is at least two fighting game stories.
Starting point is 02:09:24 If it's not anything soul caliber I don't give up well get ready to not give a single fuck for at least 10 years Jesus Christ when I was a professional fighting game person that's what that was my game I hear you it's sick the stage of history is god fucking tear. It's just. Fuck it. Soul hell of a man.
Starting point is 02:09:47 It's just punishment to be a fan of that franchise because you know. It really fucking is. It, God, God. I could rant about this for a whole fucking podcast, honestly, but I will not do that this time. Invite me back and I will. Um.
Starting point is 02:10:02 What did happen? Oh, here. What did happen was Capcom Cup X. So there's been much talk about it. And yeah, last night, the big event went down and congrats to Uma, the Taiwanese jury player that that took home the million. So you don't have to play atop here in a world. Yeah, I mean, jury's pretty fucking good Let's not much come on, but but like so yes, okay
Starting point is 02:10:29 the meme is JP and Ken for sure and they are Incredibly difficult to overcome especially at the beginning to intermediate levels and at the top as well at all levels but make no mistake like Uma beat Chris Wong a a Luke player, and Luke is also fucking incredible. So yeah, shout outs to them for doing it. And hey, even though they had an announcement saying that this is just a first year celebration with the prize pool, they then came out and they announced that next year they're going to do the million prize for first place as well. So that's pretty
Starting point is 02:11:09 solid. That's a nice thing that feels like you're going to want to keep people invested and invited to come out and keep playing the game and not just drop it for whatever else is coming, which we'll get to in a second., yeah, and of course the whole time too, there's some wild production things going on. Like the, the, the JP theme just played for like eight hours straight or whatever the fuck was going on. I don't know why they sound. They had so many sound issues in the bike going in and out with JP's theme kicking into mute people. Um, shit was weird, but, um, shout outs outs to Safe, the Toronto player who plays Ken that got top 8. That's pretty cool. Seeing that dude go as far as he did as well from,
Starting point is 02:11:55 you know, I'm watching our like our boy Flux and him playing in grand finals and the qualifiers and stuff and he just kind of went on a tear in his pool came out the same came out the same pool as the guy who won Uma as well. So that was pretty cool for his positioning. And then a big like gag kind of people were wondering about we were all meeting about was like, okay, so the prize pool is million dollars for first place, 300k for second, then two, then 100k, and then fifth place is 10k. So the drop off between four and five is wild. And so the idea, everyone was talking about it, was we're just like, who is gonna miss the 90,000 dollar drive impact?
Starting point is 02:12:43 I feel like the battle between fifth and sixth is the most dramatic. Right? Who's gonna not press DI and get blown up for 90K? And like, you know, a million dollars is life changing and 10K is life changing, but the scale of life changing just jumps after jumps. So in the actual positions, it seems as if nothing like that, nothing to that note occurred,
Starting point is 02:13:10 but in the, in the, between third and fourth place match, so that was NL versus Gachikun. NL plays Luke and right towards the last set, the second to last round, he dropped a perfect uppercut. Right, the perfect timing, he dropped one of those, and then Gachikun, who's a fucking incredible player that's won Capcom Cup in the past,
Starting point is 02:13:38 steamrolled the rest of that, and that's 100k. So there was a $100,000 dropped perfect uppercut that didn't occur. And you're like, oh, those moments. Yeah, that's the sweat. That's so high. Yeah, oh yeah. It's feet versus fists and you love to see it.
Starting point is 02:13:58 So that went down and yeah, they're gonna be trying to keep people on board. And you know, like when Uma did the interview afterwards, they're like, oh, when did you know that you were gonna win or whatever? And he's like, the moment they announced the million dollars, I knew that I was gonna win it. Cause it's just-
Starting point is 02:14:14 Oh, that's just so cool! That is so good! That is so good! That's good! So, and it really did work. Like, everyone competitively went, that, that's the money I'm looking at. I don't care what the fuck is,
Starting point is 02:14:28 what's my main game, who gives a fuck? You got my attention, you know? So that is gonna probably do well for keeping people playing Street Fighter 6 while the new game in town, 2XKO, shows up. while the new game in town, 2XKO, shows up. Well, let's all sit here. And Willie, what game is 2XKO? Formerly known as Project L,
Starting point is 02:14:53 the League of Legends fighting game. I'd like to take a deep breath. Oh, boy. Well, so remind me, what was the game that was before project? Rising thunder rising thunder, right? So I played this shit. Oh, yeah, right So me and my funny little street fighter people Yeah, so we played the shit out of that and then when we found out that it got like, you know that was done So it was like, okay fuck
Starting point is 02:15:24 So then project L shows up and I'm just like, this could be interesting. And then some of the most recent stuff they announced, which I imagine that's what we're going to get into, I don't know. So the game, like it was that Evo, it's super sick. The idea of the 2v2, so what then the problem is that like, we didn't get a chance to touch it because it was way too crowded. But like, yeah, gameplay wise, I'm really, like I loved Rising Thunder and what they're doing here, I'm super down with. They showed off Illaoi, who's the new big, like heavy girl with the tentacles, looks awesome.
Starting point is 02:15:54 Really all down for that. And there's an aspect of it with the 2v2 stuff that is particularly fun, which is when you're playing with a friend and you're doing like, you know, four players, your partner is the one who has to burst you out of a combo. You don't burst yourself.
Starting point is 02:16:08 They have to tag in and save you, you know? So stuff like that is really like, come on, stay there, burst me, save me, bro. You know, like stuff like that is really great for the hype, you know? The name switch from Project L to 2xko because it's like two times knockout. So I don't feel like, I think the idea is we want to have,
Starting point is 02:16:35 instead of people saying CVS2 for Capcom versus SNK2, we wanna make the acronym the thing itself, right? Yeah, so that's pretty obvious. I think you're right on that. And then there's the, well the thing itself, right? Yeah, so that's pretty obvious. I think you're right on that. And then there's the, well, you know, we've got League of Legends and that's its own thing. And then when it came time for Runeterra, they called it Runeterra, right?
Starting point is 02:16:55 And when it came time for Valorant, they called it its own thing. So there's a level of like, let's let each thing be its own title. But in this case, it just doesn't roll off the tongue. And they didn't want Runeterra Rumble, that's fine. You know, but 2XKO, I think everyone can agree. It will eventually get used to saying it.
Starting point is 02:17:14 We now say the words we without a blank batting an eye. We say undernight in birth and we say fucking melty blood without thinking about it twice because it's just been that long. So we'll get used to it, but man. But I feel out of all of those that you listed as examples, 2XKL sounds so dorky. Like I would push it in a locker.
Starting point is 02:17:36 Pat. You know what I mean? Like it's so dorky, I would push Pat, 2XKL in a locker. You know, like. Yeah. So. I don't, I just, hey, but also how dare you? Melty Blood is a sick name.
Starting point is 02:17:49 Melty Blood is great. It's Melty. Melty Blood is a sick name. Melty as the descriptor. All right, go, go, go, go. Melty Blood is a sick name. I will fight you on this the day that I die. Out of my way.
Starting point is 02:17:59 All right, thoughts. All right, all right. I think the number one thing that doomed this from the start was the very first tweet after the announcement was a pronunciation guide. It's preening, it is pronounced how it is spelled. This means you have fucked up. You are having to tell people how to pronounce
Starting point is 02:18:24 a four letter word, you have fucked up. Also, Project L is three syllables. Two X-K-O is four syllables. Yeah, that's a mouthful. It is longer, it is more awkward to say, it is not descriptive, it is not a word. They, I feel it in my fucking core that the reason why it is 2XKO is so that when you type in fighting games and go to an alphabetized list, it was at the top. It's at the top.
Starting point is 02:18:57 It's at the top. There's SEO on that. There is, yeah, that's a good observation. But like, but if you think about it though, like all of the fighting game names, all of them are like way technically also just always at the bottom because like Street Fighter and Tekken, Soul Caliber, Melty Blood,
Starting point is 02:19:14 that's already so low in the fucking alphabet. You know, Mortal Kombat, like it's so... The thing is that there's ways to make KO work in a title. I think OKKO is a great name, for example, you know, for that show. And if the reference is possible, probably to like to say, like, you know, like almost like double knockout, you could say they could have called it double KO, double KO, two KO, right? If you wanted to say, like, you know, like, yeah, two.
Starting point is 02:19:38 But two X is just that extra step to it. How it's spelled, like, that would be a better name if it was just 2K0. So there's another one, 2K0, right? That's one of the thoughts. I showed it to Paige, she looked at it and went, Tusco? Yeah. Two-sco?
Starting point is 02:19:58 Double cross KO. Yeah, double cross KO's how I would have written it. So, someone came up with, they did a logo redesign too, and they went with League of Knockouts, aka Loco. Yeah, that's it. I would have taken that one over to 2XK. L-O-K-O. League of Knockouts.
Starting point is 02:20:22 I was like, okay. I would have taken that. The fact that you get the word loco out of it, that's kind of nice, you know? But anyway, it's just one of those bits where you're like, I think a multiple people agree. It doesn't have to be, you know, like some, if you want it to sound very different from what normal fighting
Starting point is 02:20:38 game names are, that's totally fine, I think. But what you do end up with needs to needs to roll off the tongue, you know? But even but even like fighting game names don't make fucking sense. You know, like like Tekken, the King of Iron Fist, the King of Iron Fist. But we don't make it. Blas. Blas. Blase. Why is it blaze? Blase. Blase. Blase. Blase. Blase. Blase. Blase. Blase. Blase. Blase. Blase. Blase. Blase. Blase. Blase. Blase. Blase. Blase. Blase. Blase. Blase. Blase. Blase. Blase. Blase. Blase. Blase. Blase. Blase. Blase. Blase. Blase. Blase. Blase. Blase. Blase. Blase. Blase. Blase. Blase. Blase. Blase. Blase. Blase. Blase. Blase. Blase. Blase. Blase. Blase. Blase. Blase. Blase. Blase. Blase. Blase. Blase. Blase. Blase. Blase. Blase. Blase. Blase. Blase. Blase. Blase. Blase. Blase. Blase. Blase. Blase. Blase. Blase. Blase. Blase. Blase. Blase. Blase. Blase. Blase. Blase. Blase. Blase. Blase. Blase. Blase. Blase. Blase. Blase. Blase. Blase. Blase. Blase. Blase. Blase. Blase. Blase. Blase. Blase. Blase. Blase. Blase. Blase. Blase. Blase. Blase. Blase. Blase. Blase. Blase. Blase. Blase. It's blaze. It's not. It's blaze blue. Yeah. God. So this is not blaze blue.
Starting point is 02:21:08 I'm blabbering. This is. Yeah, this is this is the English equivalent of kind of just going nuts with the with the, you know, trying to get the catch name on it. But it is pretty interesting. Guilty gear that I saw. I love you.
Starting point is 02:21:22 A year. I think that's very soul-negative reaction It is. Isn't that right? I did not see one person going cool name Like we see what happens right I mean there's always the possibility of the cannons go Okay, maybe let's think about this again, and you know, I feel like that's that's definitely a possibility given what you just noted But I also know that's definitely a possibility, given what you just noted. But I also know that given time, there's always a, well, we're just used to seeing it, so it doesn't even mean anything anymore.
Starting point is 02:21:52 Never forget that when they announced that the revolution was called the we, I wanna say like, Perrin Kaplan, doing the press release stuff at the time, was like, get it out of your systems now. Oh yeah. It was literally like, we know we're doing this so that it can be said internationally,
Starting point is 02:22:13 get all the laughter out of your systems now because it's not changing, you know? And you're like, that's official, that's crazy. It kinda feels like that Xbox One shit where they're like, we're gonna name it Xbox one so that in parlance, people will shorten it and be like, oh, I'm playing the one. The one. And they were, and then they were like, no.
Starting point is 02:22:32 Blown away when people went, oh, OK, X bone. Right. This feels like they want people to call it to. Don't forget. Oh, we're playing to. I do it. I'm just not ever going to get over it on how dorky of a name it is and I truly don't think I'm gonna get used to and that's coming For me who has a fucking dorky video game name called spookies jump scare mansion previously spooky thousands of years
Starting point is 02:22:55 That's a dinky name. That is a dinky fucking name And that's coming for me And if I think that 2k 2x ko I can't even go cool is even more dinky than that. That's fucking saying so Like I it looks hype as fuck. I'm very excited to play it, but I will just we're gonna have to see what's going on with that Also, how long is that man? Sorry, how long is that been a dev? Oh? I mean Shut down right so Are we expecting like, just a bunch of characters?
Starting point is 02:23:31 I don't think it was exactly right. Or what? Oh, no, no, no. I'm expecting a platform that will go, and that'll get characters dropped onto it on a regular basis every couple months for a very long time. Well, I don't know about that, like, so like first off, I don't actually think it was been in development since Rising Thunder per se. I think it was like a couple years after.
Starting point is 02:23:54 I think somebody came out and said it was like a couple years after, but don't quote me on that. Maybe I might be a little... They got... But also, I play... Sorry. That's all good. I play League of Legends, unfortunately, right?
Starting point is 02:24:07 So I have Trash Taste. And that game has like 100, yeah, I know, I have mental illness. So like the fucking game has like 180 or something fucking champions in it, right? And I don't, I wouldn't want that in a fighting game. I wouldn't want, and not to say that they would add the whole thing.
Starting point is 02:24:27 That's not, no, no, I'm definitely not getting at that. I mean, Smash Ultimate with its 60-something or more, it's max, yeah, we're not talking about that. I think at max we would get, I think at max we'd get maybe like 30. I think, well, it's more about the idea of like picking, it's not the amount, I'd say, just like picking the ones that would be great fits for the genre
Starting point is 02:24:46 You know which is also difficult because like well some some characters and League of Legends Do have like quote-unquote fighting game kind of like esk the ones we're seeing here Yeah, like yeah, like probably so well I actually don't have the full list, but I know like off the top of my head champions like set He literally is like a knockout guy. Allowowing, she's like a bruiser chick. You could probably get Vi in there. She's like a big punchy fist girl. Yeah, so you could get Vi in there.
Starting point is 02:25:12 They've already got Yasuo and... Yeah, you could get Yasuo in there. Of course, that jinxes. Teemo must show up. There's no question. Nobody, everybody's gonna be so mad. Yeah! Nobody likes, I love him.
Starting point is 02:25:25 I'm a filthy Timo. It is a mascot, it is marketing. That's absolutely gonna happen. There's no question. I, so I just like, An echo is in there too doing cool shit. Yeah, yeah. That's so interesting.
Starting point is 02:25:37 Yeah, that's right, echo is in it too. But yeah, it's just like, there's so many champions that would fit and so many champions that absolutely would not fit and they might try to make it fit. Like, I think Teemo's a cool... Like I said, I played Teemo, but I don't think he would fit in that game. Oh, he'd be a trap character. He'd be like Naoto or something. So there are characters? Oh, he might play as like Peacock from Skullgirls or something.
Starting point is 02:26:02 Yeah, Peacock has pure zoning. There's a bunch of characters. Just flood the screen with bullshit. So there's a term called screen pollution, where characters like Arakune and stuff just like from BlazBlue. Oh, good. Just they fill the screen with shit, traps and bombs and nonsense, and they annoy the fuck out of you while running away. That has an archetype, absolutely.
Starting point is 02:26:22 That would be Teemo then, if they wanted to go like that. Playing against a good Teemo player should feel like catching a disease. Yeah. I mean, you're right though. I mean, we talked about how the conversion of Teemo into Runeterra was like, they figured out how to make it just as annoying in card form. It's my favorite deck to play in Runeterra. There you go. So yeah, yeah, no.
Starting point is 02:26:46 I think that's coming no matter what. Okay, so. Terrible name. We'll see what they fucking do with it. All right, Woolly, see me in 2XK. 2XK when it drops. See me in two xk Fine all right or jump on my league or I can't even make it sound jump on my team and then I
Starting point is 02:27:13 Wipe me to xk. Oh, I can't even make it. I can't make it Call it 2x for short, but like Too but to 2x. I see the problem is 2x to Japanese players means Super turbo because that's what it was called in Japan. Anyway, whatever. All right, that aside, there was, and this is just, for anyone who's paying attention to DNF Dual, I like that game, they announced the Monk, which is the class I was waiting for the whole time, really hype. It's a... More Kusouge coming at you. announced the monk, which is the class I was waiting for the whole time. Really hype. It's more.
Starting point is 02:27:45 So gay coming at you. Hell yeah. It is the priest that the that the same priest that turns into the crusader who I do the Bible, the Bible's quotes while I'm doing hammer loops is preaching the good word, right? That's my, that's my thing. So that same priest can instead put the hammer down and bless the arena and then go fist to fist and fist
Starting point is 02:28:06 and go hand to hand with you. So I'm glad they finally are dropping that in. The game is exactly, it is Kusougi, but it's honest about it. It knows what it is, it's not trying to be anything else. So God bless, God bless the ring. I should have Karnav be a fucking guest character. Oh, Karnav is the, Karnav can show up anywhere.
Starting point is 02:28:31 The Karnav everywhere system, absolutely. And then this week as well, so okay. In November, main six, the folks working on- Oh man, this fucking story. Them's fighting Herds. All right, shout out to them, because every time we're at a tournament, I always go over, play some games with them,
Starting point is 02:28:49 cool crew, always super chill and fun to just get some matches in, or show you what's latest with the builds and stuff. So they announced that they were gonna be ending active development on Them's Fighting Herds. They had the two final characters they were planning to release in the DLC pack, he and Nidra. And that was planned to end as soon as they were done. Well, for some fucking reason or another, probably related to other topics we've covered earlier in this
Starting point is 02:29:18 podcast, Maximum Entertainment fired them before they were able to finish making the characters and then launched the characters broken anyway into the game who immediately are filled with like infinites and and jack bullshit where not even like oh it's like there's a couple of unbalanced things here there's one of the characters that like does a super and just freezes you and permanently loses it. Yeah, no, they're game ruining. Like, completely. So the folks at Main Six are basically like,
Starting point is 02:29:50 yeah, we've been waiting three months, like unable to say anything, so that we can tell you guys now, ban these characters from your tournaments immediately. They're busted. We were not given the opportunity to finish it before we were fired. Oh my God.
Starting point is 02:30:04 Like, they announced that they were ending the project. It was like, you are, that whatever was planned was going to happen, but they couldn't wait long enough. They just fucking kicked them out the door and then they had no one left that understood anything about how the actual game worked on that level and just pushed the fucking, what was there, live. So, fucking awesome to see that game.
Starting point is 02:30:27 Great, great. Really good fighting game, just like end this way. Two incomplete DLC characters that are pretty much banned forever. And the treatment of that from Main Six who did a fucking great job like that, like that sucks. Done as dirty as possible.
Starting point is 02:30:44 And this goes as well hand in hand with an announcement that they also made that Maximum announced they're working on an avatar, the last airbender, multiplayer fighting game as well. So. Exciting. Oh, great. Competitive multiplayer fighting game
Starting point is 02:31:00 was the descriptor used. I'm excited. So you left your game in that state and now you're gonna announce a second fighting game. It'sor used. I'm excited. Let's see. You left your game in that state and now you're going to announce a second game. That's going to give people, you know, that's going to give people such confidence in your next product. So cool. So cool. Like literally just wait a second to do. No. Couldn't. No, fire them now. No. No. Yeah. Done. Now get them out of here. Get them out of here. Anyway. They ate all the pink stuff in the building get them out of fucking Christ Well anyways guys, I mean that was fighting her to some is a good ass game to
Starting point is 02:31:33 incomplete fucking characters Exactly, you know and and like just yeah, maybe it's one of those things where like fans will make their own custom fucking fix or some shit, but in the meantime, the current DLC, which you have to pay for, ruins the game. It's insane. So yeah, fucking, you know, main six, that's some bullshit.
Starting point is 02:32:02 Okay, I gotta run to the bathroom real quick. Give me your bathroom. Give me a 30 second. Enjoy it. Burp. Video games are in fact terrible. Good observation. I hate them. They're bad. Don't play them. They're stinky. Don't play them. Big stinky big stink lines coming off of video games. Big stinky. Just the word. The big video games with stink lines coming off. OK, gave her the ick when I told her I was in game to them. Just the word video games with stink lines coming off. Okay. Gave her the Ick when I told her I was in game development. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha So I meet people in my neighborhood, and they're like, what are you doing?
Starting point is 02:32:45 I'm like, oh, I have a podcast that I do on Mondays, and then they give me the look, and the look is, oh, this guy says he has a fucking, oh, he's one of those pandemic motherfucking podcast shit head, and I'm like, no, no, no. And then I always have to go, no, no, no, it's a real podcast. And then Paige has to come in for the assist
Starting point is 02:33:11 and be like, no, no, no, like, it's a, there's money. It's a job, it's not. I got into an Uber yesterday and caught a ride from the tournament back home. And the driver was like, hey, how's it going? How's your night? You know, I'm like, oh, not too bad. You know, just came from a video game tournament, you know, just competed in that. And she just looked and just went, just shrugged and turned her head.
Starting point is 02:33:38 Just went, I don't know nothing about that. Sorry. And I was like, no, it's cool. It's just one of these things. And if you do well, you know, you can make money sometimes. It's like, oh, yeah, okay Well, you know, that's that's cool. I like actually like actually just like and I'm out of this conversation I was like, all right fair enough. So I put my hand phones on and I just went back to my phone like I tried I like I was like having this like discussion and I definitely am back to my phone like, I tried, you know. I was like having this like discussion and I definitely am down to hear like opinions about this, right? So sometimes when I get into like lifts and Ubers and stuff like that, sometimes, you know,
Starting point is 02:34:15 they'll start a strike a conversation in there. Just like, oh, like what do you do for a living? And I'm just like, oh, I just say like, oh, I'm a programmer, oh, I'm a software engineer. I keep it pretty basic, right? And then like, they're like, oh, like what kind of software? And then I'm like, oh, I just say like, oh, I'm a programmer. Oh, I'm a software engineer. I keep it pretty basic, right? And then they're like, oh, what kind of software? And then I'm like, oh, shit. Oh, too hot.
Starting point is 02:34:29 So then I'm like, yeah. So then I'm like, so this is where I'm like, I kind of lie sometimes because I don't know how it's to explain shit sometimes. So I'm like, morally is this fucked where I get into an Uber, and I'm like, oh, I'm just like, I'm a software engineer. I'm a programmer. Oh, for what? And I'm like, oh, I'm just like, I'm a software engineer. I'm a programmer. Oh, like for what? I'm like, oh, video games. And if and immediately they're
Starting point is 02:34:48 like, oh, like call a duty. Do you work on call a duty? I'm just like, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. No, no. Yes. I work on I work on call duty. But if someone is like, yo, are you like indie or are you triple? Oh, then I'll be like, oh, you know, and then I start to talk about like my actual product, right? Or like, oh, I, you know, I made an indie horror game, you know, blah, blah, like, oh, you know, and then I start to talk about like my actual product, right? Or like, oh, I made an indie horror game, you know, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. But like if somebody on the most basic level of understanding video games and only know like, like, caught and they're like, oh, so do you work on caught?
Starting point is 02:35:14 I'm just like, yeah. Path of least resistance. Yeah, I do, yeah. Absolutely. Yeah, because, and so I'm like, is that wrong of me today? Not even wrong. I'm not even wrong. When I got my hair haircut, I'm like, the barber is a situation in which you are locked in
Starting point is 02:35:30 and the conversation is gonna go one of it. Oh, what do you do? And it's the first time I've been in this barber. Like, oh, I'm a video editor. Sure. I edit videos for YouTube channels. Video producer. Yeah, actually.
Starting point is 02:35:41 Yeah, it's very tedious. It's very tedious and boring. Yeah. Now the thing is, when you just say video editor or video producer, I. Yes, it's very tedious. It's very tedious and boring. Yeah, now the thing is when you just say video editor or video producer, I have learned that depending on who you're talking to, in their heads they go porn. Right, okay, got it. Like you're just, you're not being too specific,
Starting point is 02:35:56 so I'll assume that you just, that's the world you work in or so. But no, it absolutely is totally fine to just not need to go further You know the amount of times someone's like oh, yeah, like my kid plays Roblox So you work on like stuff like that like you you make video like how to play videos for like Roblox and stuff It's like yeah, it's kind of like that actually it is that's that's pretty much exactly. Yeah I'm gonna count exactly how to get through the game. That's exactly what yeah because because it's not that I don't want to like Tell people what I do.
Starting point is 02:36:26 But you know, there's just that clear threshold of people that just don't really understand. You know what I mean? And so that they don't understand that there's like an outside and like, and I don't want to sit there and have like a 10 minute conversation. No, trying to explain indie games and then them still kind of sort of not get it. And maybe that's me being like a jerk. No, no, I would say you can feel their energy and you can tell if it's someone that's me being like a jerk about that. No, no, I would say if you can feel their energy and you can tell if it's someone that's like,
Starting point is 02:36:47 actually curious to learn about, you can have the conversation, but if it's, yeah, if you feel that, just like, you're totally fine. I've had the conversation about what I do for a living with my mother maybe 15 different times. Mm-hmm, mm-hmm. Just, she doesn't understand how any of this
Starting point is 02:37:06 becomes food. Yes. Like she doesn't, so no line. We are currently. My mom's here. For my mom, we're currently at the state where it's like, it is a radio show on the internet. That's it.
Starting point is 02:37:21 It's a radio show? See, similar thing. Like your Christian radio, except you play it by going to a website. You know? I have like a similar thing with my mom too. Like when I used to do like Mario Party Mondays and stuff on my Twitch. Like it was kind of like a similar thing. Like she'd be like, oh, what are you doing today?
Starting point is 02:37:39 And I would just say, oh, I'm doing my Monday show. That's all I would say. Like I'm just doing my Monday show. And then like one day I tried to genuinely try to explain twitch to her and she made a twitch account And she jumped into my stream like one and once and for like ten minutes and then texted me and she was like I don't understand what's happening. Yeah, and I was like She made an account my mom I tried to keep explaining. She made an account. My mom has a terrifying. I'd be so afraid. So like I just it's so you know, so we just leave it at that. So
Starting point is 02:38:11 today she's like, Oh, so are you coming home today? You know, because I'm like, because she's living in the suburbs of Chicago. And I was like, Yeah, I'm coming home today. And she's like, Oh, like at what time? And I said, Well, remember, I have that show, that podcast that I have to do from two to five. And she's like, oh, yeah, that thing, the thing where you talk in the microphone, I said, that's it, you got it. There you go, good job. That's it. I'm like, that's it. The inner workings of an RSS feed don't need to be understood by our folks.
Starting point is 02:38:44 That's okay. No, and that is completely fine. They do their best. Yeah. Stinky, as they are, let's fucking talk some video games. Y'all see that shadow of the Erdtree trailer. I did see that shadow. No. Oh, OK. There's going to be more Elden Ring. There's going to be more Elden Ring. There's Elden Ring DLC on the way
Starting point is 02:39:07 and we're gonna get big dumb stupid into Elden Ring minutia now, so apologies in advance. The, it's a good game. It's a fighting game for fantasy nerds. I mean, I played Elden Ring. I can't believe the goddamn hand behind Moog is the DMC access point. I can and do believe it.
Starting point is 02:39:31 It's such an obvious thing that is like, yeah. But it's so, like Moog is a brick wall to a lot of people at various points in the game. But that's a very detailed asset that didn't become anything, you know? So it makes a ton of sense they would. Yeah, so looking at it initially, like lots of cool, pretty, pretty,
Starting point is 02:39:54 and then motherfucker, is that a swamp? It sure is. Miyazaki, never forget the quote. I rediscovered my love for making poison swamps. I know how people feel about them, but you know, I suddenly realize I'm in the middle of making one and I just can't help myself. It just happens. So God, there's a there's a lot of that rock details about this DLC story characters, weapons stuff. But I think by far the most interesting is that they realized that because Elden Ring is such a big game that there is a massive range
Starting point is 02:40:32 of different characters that will be able to enter in this DLC and they have changed the way you level up for just the DLC. Oh. Where the DLC will have its own leveling structure. Ah, okay. They compared it to Sekiro, where as you beat bosses and find things, you will upgrade your total attack power.
Starting point is 02:40:53 Oh, okay. Okay. So I feel like my level 30 and level 180 characters are gonna be kinda crunched to basically the same place to start. Okay, okay. Interesting, yeah, so, cause I imagine, well, okay, every FromSoft DLC that you jump into,
Starting point is 02:41:15 your, has it never just been like tacked on to the end? It's always been in the middle of the run somewhere. Dursal 3's ringing city was. It was, okay, okay. It's, the entry point for that was next to the final boss. Because yeah, that would make sense for this. And the same way that I would imagine as well, that like the way Elden Ring ends is such that
Starting point is 02:41:38 there's a bunch of different states the world can be in. Yeah, you can say that. So this is likely going with time fuckery since that effect that works way better. Time fuckery completely different location. Away from whatever you did and are doing. Yeah, no, it's it's in a fucking pocket dimension, which worked for other previous games because the end
Starting point is 02:42:00 the state of the world at the end of those games is one that you can't really always have an extra story happen, much less have so fucking because the end, the state of the world at the end of those games is one that you can't really always have an extra story happen, much less have fucking a wife hunting you down. Miyazaki says that it's about the size of limb grave, but more complicated. Yes. But, and this is really important,
Starting point is 02:42:20 this man says it takes about 25 to 30 hours to beat Elden Ring. So. I don Ring. So. I don't. So. Ah. Yeah, I don't. I don't.
Starting point is 02:42:30 The, it was really interesting. Gene pointed out on the tweet that was like, seeing the price tag on this, $40 for the DLC, most other things that are DLC coming at that price. What a ripoff. Everyone immediately raises that eyebrow rightfully and goes, what the fuck are you charging us? But in this case, you're like, wow,
Starting point is 02:42:48 there must be so much content. Must be so big, must be so big. You trust immediately that you're getting more than you bargained for with that, based on you getting too much to begin with the first time around. Shout out to Zuli the Witch with a pretty great video. And there's a lot of Reddit speculation
Starting point is 02:43:04 on what we were looking at as well. The moment I saw the, I'm like Snake Man, I'm like Rycard Young, but it's like no actual. I thought that too! Right? Yeah, it's Mesmer, the Impaler. It's the, it's Melania and Micola's brother. Another Imperian, Red Hand.
Starting point is 02:43:20 Another M. And yeah, George R.R. Martin like made reference to a couple of these details as well in the outline for the game. So, um, yeah, this seems like stuff that was. I know that that's pretty cool. I saw some speculation and some geographic posturing and it appears that the, the realm of shadow, whatever it's called, the lands of shadow, is going to be the landmass that should be in the dead ass center of the map.
Starting point is 02:43:53 You know how there's the gigantic ocean? The giant hole, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. It's probably that. That's what, hmm. Interesting. I know some of the things that were pointed out was like,
Starting point is 02:44:05 okay, when you see the big urtory in the background of it, it has a second urtory coiled around it, like a snake, you know, and it's similar in theme to the new character that's getting a cool statue. We got to see a fucking melee Tartaracan kick moment that looks like, it looks like bone fist from Dark Souls 2 is back. Like big old fist combos.
Starting point is 02:44:30 I'm, you're talking my language, let's go. There's a throwing knives that are like a, like a equipable weapon as throwing knives. There's a big like Omen lion thing with like horns that you see dude that is guys stacked on each other's shoulders Is that what's happening? Is it a Vincent adult man? Yeah, no, it's it's it's a it's it's based off of like the Chinese parade dragon. Oh Cool, okay It is absolutely like a Vincent Adult Man situation.
Starting point is 02:45:06 Hell yeah, that's super wild. Doing cool shit. And I think, yeah, we also saw like, there's like the McKella ring, sigil. There's that Nido orphan of costs creature that throws a boomerang flesh at you. And there's actually a shot of McKella's back pointing at the tree, you know?
Starting point is 02:45:27 So you actually are like, oh, McKella will be here and we'll get to figure out whatever the fuck yeah was going on and hopefully in the corner, Moog can be mauling forever because he can't get none. So this is probably gonna unlock a new ending. Moog gets knee-heeled bussy. It's been established. Oh, shit.
Starting point is 02:45:48 Oh, shit. I got damn it, you caught me off guard on that one, fuck. Oh. Oh, no. It's gonna be really interesting to see like what Elden Ring feels like if you beeline to Moog, do the whole DLC and then go back to like Lucario You know just right would get spit back out to the middle of it. Yeah. Yeah, and see what the rest of the game feels like
Starting point is 02:46:16 Shit now I just need to finish Elden Ring before anything else. Whoops You might even be able to like jump into this DLC in the middle of your run depending on how you access it like or When it get becomes available Probably just have to touch the get to the egg. Yeah, yeah Yeah, and I feel like remember when I feel like that's not as interesting though I feel like they could do something better. Well, you'll have to kill the guy in front of the hand first Yeah, well, yeah, but also you forget that actually getting to the hand is like a stupidly elaborate process, which feels like you're. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:46:51 You go around the sides if you do the whole. You guys have fucked with the game in a while, but at some point they patched it that you don't have to invade people online to access the egg early. Oh, you can do it. There's an NPC in Altus. You can. Oh, yeah. Yeah it online. There's an NPC in Altus. You can convey this there. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, no, no, no, no, no. That's the way I did it, actually.
Starting point is 02:47:08 You did it like that? I did it with, I did it with the NPC. Oh, I didn't know. Yeah, so, shout outs to the eggy world of Mickey, coming soon. Oh. The eggy world. And I assume as well that there's gonna be a six spot
Starting point is 02:47:26 made for PVP so that you can try out all these crazy new ways. I mean they got the call see them now. Yeah, yeah, but like in the DLC world would you, yeah I guess you would then just go to the same spot with all the new shit. The, what was, it's like a like porcupine ability? Yeah. Like Kirby spike, I just see Kirby spike mode. You know, you crouch down and everything goes.
Starting point is 02:47:48 That's a cry. People pointed out that like almost every single spell you see in that trailer is an incantation. Oh, okay. So, I guess your build is, well hold on a minute. By the end, was there ever, no, no, yeah, it was always in balance towards, if you're playing into fucking, eat shit too bad.
Starting point is 02:48:18 No, no, Willie, that's not true. Okay. That's not true. Okay, well, you got the crazy busted ones, but it felt like all the, we've been over this. It felt like all the big important moments were just like, yeah, too bad if you're going that way. But you get a really cool plot twist though, you know. You get that moment, but...
Starting point is 02:48:43 Anyway. I watched a fucking Oh god, how long was it? I? Watched this like over an hour of footage on a guy's YouTube channel called rusty who went through every single Incantation and every single Sorcery in Elden Ring and then like Categorize them as to what they do. And the basic gist of it is that sorceries
Starting point is 02:49:07 have a lot more good guns to use, but incantations have a broader spectrum of usable stuff. Okay, you get more wide builds you can make versus the ones zap zap zap, big zap, kamehameha. Yeah, the other thing is that the game's placement of incantations and spells makes it feel wildly fucked up depending on which one you have. Because when you get to Raya Lucaria,
Starting point is 02:49:36 like 70% of the game's sorceries are in this one early zone. Whereas incantations are spread out throughout the rest of the game. Yeah, and again, like I said, some of it too was like picking up the big lore important items and reading their descriptions and going, thanks for the lore, I do not have a build that can use this in the fucking chest you go, you know. Anyway, cool stuff. Yeah, it is nice that you can go.
Starting point is 02:50:05 Horizon safe. It is nice that like, you know, you're like, hey, from soft, you gave us so much game last time that, yeah, this is this being Limgrave sized, and he's saying 25, but we fucking believe that at all. I'm, I have no problem with the price for that, you know, that's, that's, that's an incredible last game that I'm down to get more of Okay, let's take some letters. It's fair
Starting point is 02:50:32 Was there something else? That's something something SMT related happened. If so, I missed it. Oh, there's SMT vengeance Oh, yeah vengeance. Yep. I Think they got announced like, uh, for that Nintendo. Was that, was that today? It was the partner direct. No, no, no, the partner direct, I think happened like what, like Wednesday or Thursday. Oh, SMT five vengeance. Okay. Second campaign. Oh, yeah, they, yeah, that was okay. The Nintendo I enjoyed me SMT five. That was very cool. I cool. Yeah, but hey, if you have a save file of SMT5
Starting point is 02:51:08 and you buy SMT5 vengeance, you are not allowed to transfer your save file. But Atlas will let you transfer three demons of your choice. Oh, come on! Okay, no. All right, well, I'm not doing it again. I'm not doing it again. I'm not
Starting point is 02:51:26 I'm not I really I really enjoyed that but I'm not okay. Okay. All right Yeah, I didn't get a crack at the unicorn overlord demo. It's been too busy a week I'm gonna probably be playing that tonight. Okay, so for me for Pat more to say on Vanilla where when when we can when we get a chance to touch it. You know what, I will say one thing about Unicorn Overlord, I saw somebody posting screenshots from the demo. And you know, there's the main guy, the main night guy.
Starting point is 02:51:55 He's head to toe in armor, except when he lifts his arm up, he's got like a really toned bear armpit peeking out. And I'm like oh No, yeah No, they're they are George. We do a new George freak George knows who he's going after he's got one for everybody He's got one for everybody. Oh man. Mm-hmm those games, dude Every single type on the list covered he wants to create the final boss of everyone's fetish You know
Starting point is 02:52:30 Saying it's not George this time. Oh really? Okay Well, I mean it was because I just I you know you take a look at at Fucking dragons crown and you're just like what are you into? Yeah? Take it turn it to 11. We got you cover Sorry, did somebody in the chat say that the demo is like seven hours long? That is not a demo that is a video game Okay, I believe that is a video game And also I've played at least two video games at least the stinky ones
Starting point is 02:53:02 So I would know yeah, this also shout outs to the prettiest vanilla wear logo that's ever existed it looks the new logo looks unbelievable it's so fucking hype check that out if you get a chance you know I'm so excited for like so vanilla wear really obviously wants to remember 13 sentinels was like a strategy thing and but it was like kind of basic and they did Grand Knights history. Was that then? Was that then? I don't, that was them. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:53:29 Oh, was that? Oh, I don't know. And it's good to be like, oh, they really, they really wanna just get this. I don't know, this is not Fire Emblem. Edge closer to Fire Emblem, but make their own thing. Like Ochre Battle? Like what, like.
Starting point is 02:53:43 I mean, I imagine a little bit of all of the above whatever of the things they love a little tactics a little a little Little fire emblem and it looks so hot as a free mm-hmm. Look at the food. You see the food every time They are the the Studio Ghibli of Games when it comes to food porn. I just saw somebody say has the fF12 gambit system and now I don't even know how the game fucking works. Oh yeah, so I don't know what that means, but I saw a screenshot of that. What does that mean?
Starting point is 02:54:12 I thought it was like, what? What, yeah. I don't know, I don't know FF12. I don't know. All right, all right, let's take some letters. You wanna send in a letter, send it to castlesuperbeastmail.com, it to castle superbeastmail.com. That's castle superbeastmail.com.
Starting point is 02:54:29 I'm starting to sundown. I'm starting to sundown. That's OK. That's OK, buddy. I'm feeling it. OK. OK. We got one coming.
Starting point is 02:54:39 Always remembering that he's on his podcast. That's cute, Mr. Madden. on his podcast. That's cute, Mr. Madden. We got one coming in from Eleanor. Hey, dear William Pat. Everyone's making jokes about Maria getting shot in the upcoming Sonic movie. But I want them to include one bit of lore that's been forgotten because it was only mentioned in the game manual and website. In Sonic Adventure 2 Canon Gerald Robotnik began his research to try and make a cure for Maria's space aides. It's called Neuro Immune Deficiency Syndrome or NIDS for short. Pressure from Gunn to use his research for weapons making purposes led Gerald to then
Starting point is 02:55:23 make a giant lizard monster prototype which was then reworked into a hedgehog with air shoes. This means that Shadow is canonically immune to HIV. The game itself never says snids out loud and it vaguely acknowledges this backstory but now is the time for Paramount to either right this wrong or once again that Hollywood is a den of cowards. Yeah, they need to have a conversation between shadow and Sonic in which he's like, Hey, Sonic, by the way, I can't catch AIDS. What a good, incredible. Yeah, that's a good one.
Starting point is 02:55:58 Incredible. That's a good if I could email by the way, like, holy shit. Like I just my my Sonic Adventure lore, because the Sonic Adventure Good if I could email by the way like holy shit like I My my Sonic Adventure lore because the Sonic Adventure 1 and 2 are definitely my two favorites out of all the like Sonic games and stuff And I do actually remember this weird nids thing But I never thought of it as like space AIDS and so that it just opened up this whole like big part of my brain Then I'm like well Weakest hedgehogs need prep Sonic Shadow can can do what he wants Absolutely what he wants and we love that
Starting point is 02:56:42 Hmm You can do whoever or whatever however he got one fucking chat Hedgehog conversion party Cut us off hurry up hurry up me and Pat are gonna make this so much worse. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha was deposit their emeralds into this hedgehog. Oh my gosh. I've never allowed back of the... Elena, thank you for the email. Are you satisfied? Did we do it?
Starting point is 02:57:36 Is that what you were looking for? Are you happy? I think you got it. Oh, I hope you're happy. Good email. Thank you. Good email. Thank you. We got one coming in from Dull says salutation, Frank Castle and Mr. Beast.
Starting point is 02:58:02 If you could delete one piece of media from history and by extension everything that logically follows it, what would you remove and why? Okay, I think, like, I think easy mode on this is if you say like, oh, the Phantom Menace because, but then, oh no. Yeah, whatever.
Starting point is 02:58:26 I'm gonna say... I'm gonna say the Matrix Reloaded. I think if the Matrix simply existed as... Fuck you, that highway scene is worth it. I'm down for the Matrix and we just keep it there. I'll take that. I got one.
Starting point is 02:58:43 The Epic of Gilgamesh. Just to see what would happen. Hahahaha! All stories deleted! No, not all stories deleted! But all they'd all be switched out for completely different stories and the whole world would just change overnight. The concept of the narrative has been destroyed. God damn it.
Starting point is 02:59:05 Destroy the first domino. Just stomp this prehistoric butterfly to death and see what happens. Kick that fucking- that- that- the thing that crawled out of the primordial ooze, just- Yeah, just kick it back in. Yeah, fuck you. It was your fault. Uh, any come to mind, Sheena? I Then he come to mind Sheena I
Starting point is 02:59:31 Think you delete that would then erase the entirety of its its after-effects The Beatles Jesus fuck you you chose violence just just like you chose violence just because I'm like oh my god fucking psychotic little I just want to see what I'd like sure like to delete Taylor Swift to see what other cult like figure all these white women would attach themselves to see See, because like I- You would say Beyonce. Yes. Well, Beyonce has her own sector. Yeah, the behind this. But what would you say? Like, I wonder what it would be like, what would Katie Perry take
Starting point is 03:00:16 the reins? She's in the back room with the red scarf, man. She embarrassed herself on SNL. It's done. There's no coming back. That's fair. That's fair enough But no, but like with the Beatles, you know, like I don't like the Beatles, but I respect what they did for music I don't I don't I don't You're you're like if you choose violist that's hey man Ringo try every person back But like but again,, I don't like them. Like if someone puts them on, I won't be like, what is this?
Starting point is 03:00:50 But I respect them for what they did for music. And especially the genres of music that I like, which is why I'm so fascinated to see what would happen if we could not exist. And where my genres of music would be Sheena. I got in super late, so I mean, I'm not like I didn't grow up with any of that, but when I got into Circa Beatles Rock Band,
Starting point is 03:01:17 I was like, hey, that's pretty good shit, I liked it. Sheena, if you remove the Beatles, then we are gonna miss out on Chuck Berry's fucking face So mad see that so mad oh You know what he did? He right after that, he went he went back to his room. Jesus. And he farted in two hookers faces. That's what he did. Anyway, and then Pete on a third one, he got really upset.
Starting point is 03:02:00 And that's rock and roll right there. Damn, that is rock and roll. If I've ever heard of a baby, I. But yeah but yeah that's it I just I just want to see what happens I just oh my god I would like to see what happens wouldn't be crazy if nothing changed the people literally literally everything happened the same way like oh I would fucking I would scream I would lose my well or or just working at the post office somewhere like the polls just there like just selling hot dogs on the I'm sure our folks would argue and say that
Starting point is 03:02:37 like the stones would take over or something right because that was the that was the fucking and sink backstreet Boys of the Time, right? Yeah, sure. Yeah, yeah. So that first email was a good email. The second email was the one that was going to... It was a good email, but it was a violent email. It was. It does.
Starting point is 03:02:56 It caused violence. It stirred the box. It caused problems. What can you delete from the world and live by the butterfly effect? Someone said the Bible. Oh, yeah. That's too easy. Someone said the Bible. That's too easy. That's too easy.
Starting point is 03:03:09 Come on. Chat fucking tweet at me because I want to know other, I want to know what other people have to say genuinely because now I'm really fascinated to think about where we would be in media. Cause initially my first answer would have been like Lovecraft or something to see how we develop like conceptions or stuff like that.
Starting point is 03:03:30 Even just saying something like code. If we can't figure out how to be afraid of aliens without imagining like black people or Chinese people. Well, I was about to, I'm like, if you deleted Lovecraft, if you deleted rough Lovecraft's works, then all we would have is a guy with a cat whose name is quite interesting. have is a guy with a cat whose name is is quite interesting is a very interesting name yeah or yeah or even if we keep if we keep Lovecraft
Starting point is 03:03:51 What about like something like Poe you know what I mean if we got oh Edgar Allen Edgar Allen Poe yeah Edgar Allen Poe right so like so that's like an entire genre of Media defined by syphilitic madness. We would not have, we would have no Tim Burton. Well, but that's what I mean. Yeah, yeah, get rid of Poe. A lot of my work is genuinely inspired by Poe. And so that's why, so initially that was gonna be my first
Starting point is 03:04:17 answer, but then I was like, no, I'm gonna start some shit. So then I said the Beatles, because both of those are good. So Chad, if you have an inkling to tweet at me, what you guys would feel? Because I definitely just want to know, you know, because now I'm just going to have like an existential crisis later when I'm high on my edible. And I'm going to think about, wow, where would we have been? Do that for me. Give me an existential crisis.
Starting point is 03:04:40 When I was, when I was in elementary school and, and like they, we got, uh, we, uh, I read Poe like for the first school and like they, we got, I read Poe like for the first time and they like, I remember like reading the Raven, I remember that was one of the first times I was like getting an assignment and like the flow of that, I was like, yo bars, like it actually, it has a flow to it that was quite sick.
Starting point is 03:04:57 I really liked that as a kid reading it back in the day. Yeah. It's good. All right, last one. This one is coming in from, uh, Derzis who says, hello, I've listened to you both for a while now and you like to bring up how, uh, last minute, a nature of lot of these tech companies let people go. I work in the IT security industry and the reason why they do it, uh, first hand,
Starting point is 03:05:19 it does suck, but it's for the safety of others at the company. Obviously losing your job is stressful and unfortunately common for released employees to get violent and or attempt to steal or damage equipment and stuff owned by the company. And if a person is informed ahead of time, they can have a planned violent confrontation with the managers and HR and stuff like that. And it kind of goes on about this. That's why they kind of do something where that's why when someone is fired, they tend to be outnumbered so that they get the news and they're less likely to have that kind of outburst and the policy is to yeah, it's for security and safety.
Starting point is 03:05:53 So dude, just to like no one I think ever felt that the idea of the potential outburst was any of the issue. That's not what we're making fun of or saying is dumb or bullshit. Whenever we talk about this, it's about how people find out they're fired with a public announcement of something, how people find out at the same time as the actual public facing announcement that the company puts out or finding out during a company picnic or over one minute Zoom call or some shit. The idea that there's a security escort to get your things and walk out or whatever, that's obviously based on, yes, they don't want people to go nuts
Starting point is 03:06:35 and there's an aspect to that, that's where it comes from. But that's never what we're talking about. You're focusing on the complete opposite thing. I think that- But not only that, but- Oh, sorry opposite thing. I think that the corporate society has used a couple unfortunate disasters to come up with a really good reason to not have to ever sit down face to face with somebody and ever actually have to let them go. And so you can fire huge swaths of your
Starting point is 03:07:00 company with the click of a button or an email and go five minutes on call. I didn't even have to push them out the door. Right. Because maybe if you had to physically fire like 90 people in a day, they could actually yell at you in your office and that'd be really uncomfortable for you. Or if the concept of the exit interview, which again, like used to be a thing depending on where you are, where you literally talk about like, okay, what happened, why, what, and you literally give and get feedback and such. But yeah, in these cases, most of the time, that security issue has nothing to do
Starting point is 03:07:34 with the most bullshit stories that we've brought up over the years of how they've fired people. And the lack of respect you have for your employees as well, for again, having them discover shit while the press is writing articles about it. And the lack of respect you have for your employees as well, for again, having them discover shit while like the press is writing articles about it. That's fucking insanity, you know? So do not... Yeah, that's absolute insanity. But also it's just like, I feel like, yes, do people have violent outbursts and things like that? Yeah, but I don't feel like that's such like as common as people make it out to be but because we live in such a
Starting point is 03:08:07 Society Currently yeah, let's just call it that because we live in such a society people think that happens more commonly than it actually does And so like you know, but I really don't even think that it again I'm not saying it doesn't happen it does it. It absolutely does and we have proof of that. But I don't think it's as common as people think it is, especially when you consider that a lot of these companies beat down their employees so bad that they don't even have self-esteem. Exactly. That they'll just go oh and then be sad more than violent or angry. I feel like typically when someone goes more on the violent side
Starting point is 03:08:46 of being fired, it's because other things are going on in their life that isn't just losing their job. But also, people finding out, like Willie said, with all these articles or when people just wake up and find out what was the G4 that all the G4 people found out that way too. There was one year or two ago where people showed up to their office and their key cards didn't work. It was Twitter. Key cards didn't work. It was Twitter.
Starting point is 03:09:11 It was Twitter. Yeah, it was Twitter. It was literally Twitter. But you know, like, that's like fucking insane. And we're gonna make fun, you know, it's easy to make fun of that shit because of how fucking absurd it is. The security issue is not a reason
Starting point is 03:09:26 to not treat your employees like fucking human beings. Well, I mean, exactly. As a policy, by the way. We're all humans at the end of the day. Yeah, exactly, yeah. If the assumption is that you're supposed to give two weeks notice to your boss so that they can find your replacement,
Starting point is 03:09:39 then it should go the other way around, at least. The other thing this person points out is not, we've been focused on the safety. Yeah, no, people could steal their stapler or download some files off their computer if they're allowed to go back to their desk after they've been let go. So what that email is implying is that if you are the type of person that would
Starting point is 03:10:07 steal things from your job after you get fired, you should start stealing the instant you get there to prepare for you getting fired. Right. That's what I was about to say. Who's to say that they haven't already been stealing before being fired? And who's to say they haven't been backing up all of their shit already? Because 90% of the time, if you have that inkling to do that as you're already walking out you've already been fucking doing that. You should, uh, I would take every piece of office equipment you find and put it in your car. I'm gonna take all the fucking sticky notes in the office dude. Is there a wage theft counter that is left that we can tally up together?
Starting point is 03:10:44 So, Sheena, I know that me can tally up together. I know that me and Willie have had this experience, but I'm sure you've worked a job in which you got your paycheck and then part of getting your paycheck was to go walk over to your manager's office and be like, hey, you fucked up my paycheck and there was always a line.
Starting point is 03:10:57 Two lines, paycheck line? Immediately to the left of that, you fucking stole money from me line, correct my paycheck now, please Literally how we got paid every two months. Oh I've had to do that a couple times. Yeah, unfortunately fucking rad I think that's common. I think that's way more common than somebody having a violent or a Yeah, no
Starting point is 03:11:22 infinitely so Anyway and then wait, but can you? Yeah, no, by the numbers, infinitely so, actually. Anyway, I think if you get fired and it's bullshit that you should fuck your boss's mom. Do it. Do it. When was the last time that bag of bones had a knife in the foot? If she's down, you could pull that off.
Starting point is 03:11:40 If she's down, you just know the whole thing. Get the cobwebs out of there. Get the cobwebs out of this poor... Ghost them, and then they're, you just, you know, get the cobwebs out of there. Get the cobwebs out of this poor, and you ghost them, and then they're crying out dinner, and then you just drive past your boss with all the money you're paying and they're mom. Just straighten that back out, you know?
Starting point is 03:11:55 You know, just throw that back out, dust the cobwebs out of there, you know, just do a quick little, phew, real quick, just blow it out real quick. Shayna, thank you so much. Where can people find you? Thank you so much. You can find me everywhere, Instagram, Twitter, Twitch,
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