Castle Super Beast - CSB 261: The Pokemon Company Forgot That I'M HIM

Episode Date: March 19, 2024

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Starting point is 00:00:00 ["Sailor Moon Theme"] Alright, apologies for the technical difficulties that you, our faithful MP3 listeners, did not even know occurred. Don't even know about. And for the lateness that you, our faithful MP3 listeners, did not feel know about and For the lateness that you are faithful mp3 listeners did not feel at all because you just clicked and downloaded and played as you Normally would thank you for listening mp3 not a wave file. It's an mp3. Yeah, we I convert it to to compress it keep it to keep I mean that makes sense. Yeah, that's that's what it is, you know Hey, Willie now that I finally have you face to face I I want to congratulate you on becoming an official pawn or rather getting an official pawn not becoming one
Starting point is 00:01:14 In Dragon's Dogma 2 congratulations, buddy You absolutely deserve it, and I'm very glad that this has now kicked your ass all the way all the way That this has now kicked your ass all the way all the way To Dragon's dogma forever as in as can possibly be there's no back down. There's no back out There's no exit point the door has now been locked behind me The conversation will occur yeah, absolutely. Thank you very much. I appreciate that Yeah, absolutely. Thank you very much. I appreciate that Yeah, that's a We'll see what happens there. Although I guess we're still a little ways out before much can be said Right. Oh, yeah, we don't know anything about Dragon's Dogma 2. There's there's nothing that can be okay. I can't really say much
Starting point is 00:02:01 No, there's nothing that can be discussed. Absolutely nothing except for what has been tweeted out by the official account, which is yay. Hey, there you go And also shout out to Suzy that be the sphere hunter for also getting an official pawn and Max, of course Yes. Yes as well Very cool. I saw that Max gets to be on all Platforms and that and that's cool. I think not everybody gets the privilege. Not everybody gets the fancy, schmancy, all-platform privilege. Yeah, I think that's reserved.
Starting point is 00:02:38 But nonetheless. It's reserved for the pond bourgeoisie, Willy. Perhaps. Perhaps. Nonetheless, it's reserved for the pond bourgeoisie, Willie. Perhaps, perhaps. And I saw, I mean, look, some people have have have batted some some theories around that I saw one was that perhaps Capcom needed a black pond on that list and you know I don't know if that's what the case is but Wully I'm absolutely certain that it has way more to do with the fact that you're like a nice guy and a talented networker and a good creator in your own right and like are an absurd Capcom mega mark
Starting point is 00:03:26 Rather than the fact that you are in fact a black guy. I Well, thank you for for the kind words But yeah, but there's all these are you the only I think I think possibly I think so I'm not sure so Occam's razor still hangs overhead like Damocles Damocles so Occam's razor still hangs overhead like Damocles Damocles is Occam's sword razor is still Maybe I don't know Yeah
Starting point is 00:03:54 Not even a guarantee that you would have made a black pawn No, actually because I didn't necessarily have to be that that's true That is true. I could have just not done that. But I'm not too sure. But thank you, I appreciate that. Yeah, I guess there will be much to discover. I'm gonna be streaming it on Saturday and
Starting point is 00:04:27 Hey, what time you streaming on Saturday streaming it at 1 p.m. Um They're going a little bit early and I think it's because There's a chance they I think they're trying to set up a Little possible front page action and that would be Pretty interesting. I'm not too sure if that's all confirmed and stuff, but that would be cool Well, I'm not doing anything Monday morning, so if it's our son Monday, I'm yeah, I'm here Monday mornings. No Saturday morning So if you want I can give you a call and explain how bullshit works
Starting point is 00:05:10 And if not, I can just backseat the fuck out of you in your chat By all means by all means the you can Navi and and give us the what's what as we enter this world of unfamiliarity in an official context. Yeah, hell yeah, for sure. So I guess the immediate point that I go into is like, here's a list of questions, but I'm like, ah, we can't. So let's just well you can't ask me any questions about Dragon's Dogma 2 because we don't know anything about Dragon's Dogma 2 but you could always ask me generalized
Starting point is 00:05:57 Dragon's Dogma questions that I would be familiar with? If if like wolves hunting packs. Yes. Like I guess no. I guess the my yeah. The thing I wanted to know about a bit was like how the composition of your class versus other classes of the pawns you're rolling with affects your your your strap. That is a great question that has nothing to do with Dragon's Dogma 2. That is an easily answerable question only referring to
Starting point is 00:06:34 the original Xbox, PlayStation 3, and PC release of Dragon's Dogma 1 and Dragon's Dogma Dark Arisen. Good observation. It is. So the long and short of it is that Dragon's Dogma is a type of, so it's a RPG. You're wandering around. You're encountering problems and solving those problems with a stick and or a magic or a bow. And the basic gist of it is that most party compositions
Starting point is 00:07:06 are gonna be viable to some degree, but it is a game made out of hard counters. So certain things will fly to pieces on physical damage, or they're very aggressive and they do a lot of damage, and don't let you cast spells so you would want a warrior You know like a fighter, you know, something sturdy However, there are other particular situations where your job will be done
Starting point is 00:07:35 dramatically easier if you have somebody who can cast a lightning spell or Can shoot a bow from far away. So can four warriors work? Yes. Can four mages work? Absolutely. But the easiest way to compare it is like Final Fantasy I. Okay.
Starting point is 00:07:56 Where somebody goes like four white mages, it'll never work. I mean, you can make it work. Yeah. But like it would probably be a little easier if you just kind of covered at least, like not all your bases, but like more than one base. Okay, so it can work, but you're just battering,
Starting point is 00:08:17 ramming your way through every challenge. And you can run into situations where you hit like a, not a wall, but a very hard in hard counter. Yeah So like in in DD one, there's the Griffin, right? The Griffin is a flying bird monster and It's a lot easier to shoot it if you have something to shoot When it's flying around like a bow and if you burn its wings
Starting point is 00:08:46 with an element or a spell, it can't fly for a while, which turns into a grounded fight. It just makes your life easier. So I can for fighters or striders jump onto it and just just fuck the shit, stab it in the head as much as they want. Yeah, no, that can work. But it's easier to light it on fire and hit it with lightning while also shooting it with arrows and also stabbing it. Probably the best example of this is mages. So mages are the only healer. So mages are the only healer. Like, cleric and mage have shoved together to become
Starting point is 00:09:28 mage. And they're the only people in DD1 that have a heal spell. It's called anodyne. It's a really powerful, really easy to use heal spell because there's no magic points. They're just stamina. So if you have mage in your gang, oh fuck yeah, free healing forever. Like, you can heal after every single encounter. But mages aren't actually all that strong offensively. Whereas sorcerers get to use all that stupid, ridiculous anime magic shit that I showed you last week. But they have specifically no healing of any kind whatsoever.
Starting point is 00:10:01 So, do you want to rock a sorcer-Sorcerer and a Mage? Well, now you only have two people that aren't made out of glass. So you have to spend more of your time protecting your squishies. Do you want to go with a wolf standard party? What's that? But also you can cast faster if you have multiple people. Well, no, that's not in DD1. That's only in DD2, which they showed in the previews.
Starting point is 00:10:22 Ah, okay, they showed it in the previews. Which is where I'm pulling that from, the previews. And, but in DD1 you could do something like, I'm gonna roll two fighters, an archer, and a sorcerer. So nobody has any healing other than items. And the idea there is that you're so offensively stacked that you shouldn't be having to take a lot of damage anyway because you're beating things with hammers while meteors and tornadoes are going off. Right. Things like the best defense is a good offense.
Starting point is 00:10:56 But yeah, as long as you have some variability in your party, you can make it work like I would not recommend somebody to go four of one class That's probably asking for trouble, but going like two of one class and then different one different one Yeah, that work. They'd be fine No problem there, but you're not but you're not like completely locked the fuck out if that's how you want to play it Or if you're just... Oh, absolutely not. No, no, no. There will be things that are harder or softer, right?
Starting point is 00:11:31 So like in Dragon's Dogma 1, I think I brought this exact thing up to you, which is there's the metal golem, which unlike the regular golem where you smash its body parts on its body, the metal golem has them hidden around the environment. And mages have a really hard time hitting the tokens that bring the golem to life. Warriors and fighters have an almost impossible time hitting the things. But anybody with a bow can just go, oh, there it is, bang. There it is, bang.
Starting point is 00:11:59 Dead golem. And the regular golem in DD1, like if you had a mace instead of a sword, it did way more damage to its weak points because it's made of fucking rocks. Okay, yeah. Well, okay, then I guess there's, yeah, there's some of the weapon type stuff as well
Starting point is 00:12:20 with the exclusivities, but yeah, okay. So that's good I'm glad to know that whatever I choose to roll with our however the the composition looks things aren't gonna be too you know too limited for that well the other thing at the end of the day let's say you let's pick fucking mage. So you played mage as your primary vocation on your main character and you got to like rank 9 in mage and you're like, I think I hate this. I would like to change this to an archer or a Strider rather, DD1.
Starting point is 00:13:00 Well, you can, part of your learned abilities is what's called an augment, and those are passives that can go to anything. So because you hit rank nine with mage, you can add the passive extra magic resistance. Or faster spell casting, which some of the martial classes also have. Okay, so just kind of like fine tune your build a little bit. So you'll get something out of having spent that time. Yeah. But if you're crazy, if you're crazy, what you're gonna do is go, well, I wanna be an assassin, so I'm gonna level this much in warrior so I can get that thing, and then I'm gonna level this much in Strider so I can get that thing,
Starting point is 00:13:36 and then I'm gonna level this much in fighter so I can get that thing, and then I'm gonna level this much in sorcerer in order to get that thing. So like in Dragon's Dogma 1, sorcerer had an augment that lowered the prices in shops. Okay, okay, yeah. So like, there was this part of your playthrough where we were like, maybe you should fucking put five ranks in a Sorcerer so you can make everything in the game like 10% cheaper.
Starting point is 00:13:56 Also, so in the hit classic Dragon's Dogma 1, available now. Darkarisen. Darkarisen. That is, you can also edit your pawn later, right? Like if you need to be. Yeah, it's called the art of metamorphosis, I think. Okay, there's a way to correct, let's say. Yeah, so everything about, in DD1,
Starting point is 00:14:20 everything about your pawn's appearance can be changed with like a, wait, is that there? I can't remember. The there? I can't remember The look I can't remember, but I know you can change what's called their inclination and their inclination is their shit like do they love items or Are they crazy and run in every time? Yes? Yeah the behavior stuff? Yeah, okay Because I you know if you if one were to want to correct something like a height mistake for example Yeah, that would be a great way to do it if so if you there was a barber and DD one
Starting point is 00:14:55 I don't know if it could change your height, but I know that in the pre-order page for dragons dogma to there is a Extra DLC bundle that includes something called the art of metamorphosis and in the little asterisks It says some of these things may be available in game Okay, so that will probably also be a usable option in Dragon's Dogma 2. I'm just guessing I'm hoping so yeah You know that would be really nice. Yeah, that was one of the things that was actually available in game rather than just DLC I think that would be a bad idea. I don't think they're gonna do that. Okay, that's good because it would be you know It'd be nice to be able to you know, let's say someone were to
Starting point is 00:15:33 Make themselves a little too short to be able to correct that. I don't know what that's like In Dragon's dogma one dude you get dude, you go to like 160 centimeters, I think it was, or maybe 158. And then there was a level, one level below that, which was 110 centimeters, like child, child size. I didn't pick that one. I picked the normal, the smallest human you could be. Yeah, so like there's the number like I didn't
Starting point is 00:16:05 even because again centimeters is just not usually the way we think about yeah Canadian measurements are so we're fucked because of America and we have our hybrid thing going on where we say is there Americans fault because yeah we still we measure in pounds and we measure in you know feet and inches and but once it gets far away. It's metric again exactly but yeah, so like I was just looking at numbers as numbers as opposed to centimeters and anyway, that's In the DD to character creator that's available now as a demo you can make you actually doesn't list the centimeters
Starting point is 00:16:42 It just has a number Mm-hmm exactly and I'm like I and that I internalize that after looking at it for a bit like oh that's sentiment I didn't at all. That's where I fucked up. Yeah You're like six one right? Yeah, six two yeah But I may have made myself like five ten or so six feet one inches and CM is 5'10 or so. Six feet, one inches in CM is... 188. 85, 86.
Starting point is 00:17:07 Okay, okay. And there's a, like, yeah, as we all know, the difference between 5'11 and six foot is literally Wander and the Colossus. Yeah. Right? So, if you're the kind of person who would want to make your own character your own self as a facsimile Dragon's dogma actually takes it a lot more seriously than most games in that Your height and average weight matter
Starting point is 00:17:37 To two things it does tell you your weight as you're scaling yourself Yeah, so the reason for that is two things Your hitbox and Dragon's dogma is your character It's real. It's actually it's real. It's actually your character. So me who plays small small characters Much harder to strike by large get an advantage Okay, but my the length of my swings on my weapons the range trade-offs Okay, okay wait
Starting point is 00:18:11 matters in terms of weight on enemies so in DD one there was like there was like a Like griffins and like there were certain valleys that had like a lot of wind pressure and The people who are like high closer to max weight could like move unimpeded But people on the lower end of the weight scale would be like fuck Would be like 10% does it affect your thing because you know like in a souls game you get like fat rolls and stuff Is there any aspect like that to defense or dodging?
Starting point is 00:18:43 Okay, I frame and also affects your stamina recovery, I think Where the smaller you are the less total stamina you have but the faster it recovers So do you want a big bar that recover slowly or do you want a small bar that recover super fast, right? Okay. Okay. Yeah, and now we're but these are within like Small and gradient 20 percent all variation. It's all it's all for the viewer No, you're describing like armored core builds at this point. Yeah, yeah, kinda Okay, but it's your own human body or if you're playing DD to probably your own Cat what the fuck the cat man's
Starting point is 00:19:26 Yeah, those are the... Catmans. Cat people. Yeah. Okay. Oh man, I'm forgetting all sorts of stuff. Small people can climb faster. It does affect your movement speed.
Starting point is 00:19:37 It does affect your carry capacity. Is there a point where too many big people on a monster and it'll just like fall over or something like, you know? Or is it like, ah, too heavy, fall over, you know? Does that be sick? I don't think that's in the first game, but they've shown that in the second game. Nice. Where pushing and pulling on monsters will have an effect on your
Starting point is 00:20:06 characters weight in terms of how hard you nice just gang tackle just bring it fell it down cool cool cool I like that okay there's like a big reason why you're seeing people dump like dozen hours into this game's character creator one man that DD2 character creator is bananas, yeah, yeah, no like I this I I like this is the first time in a long time where I've pulled up like reference photos to like Highly detail things so clearly Capcom after the Street Fighter 6 Creator just kind of took all of that forward into
Starting point is 00:20:46 like this level of precision, which means I guess from here on out anything they do with a character creator on this engine is going to be really, really in depth. Yeah, it's also like I've been fucking with the character creator so much and It's also like it gives you like presets, but it also be like hey does this guy kind of look like you? Okay, pick them now. We're gonna give you like a radial of the radial which one of these kind of looks like you even more Yeah, yeah from the presets you get two sets of like slight variation to the preset You've chosen to just see here's a couple hairstyle differences here's some different neck thicknesses you know it's it's really smart because like when you're starting from like generic player one and you're looking at like I have so much to fucking change like you know
Starting point is 00:21:38 it's nice to be able to like okay let's grab somebody with my skin type and the general shape of my face. And then I'm going to start editing from there, like as a, as a starting point, instead of just like blank slate. And then there's also like extra fine tuning with like the skin texture type and skin texture shade, which are different from the skin tone so that it's almost like a feature in place to stop the Purple skin color problem, you know, like they have fine-tuning abilities to like bring it back to being You know lively and red or orange or brown and different hues of that and if you want to go
Starting point is 00:22:22 When I was fucking that character creator, I discovered that in order to get my weird pink shade, I had to go with this skin color, but I also had to give it a blue undertone to offset lighting, because I'm a super pink guy. And just a huge, ridiculous amount of options in there. It's also funny because it's like, this is one of the only character creators I can think of in recent memory where there's straight up an option to be like, hey, do you want
Starting point is 00:22:52 to have one of your eyes just closed for any particular reason? I don't know why you'd want to do that. But if you just felt like having an eye closed for any... Well, I'm going to just tell you right now, W in dragons dogma one guts is one of the precepts well So the thing but don't don't don't don't make anything. That's that's Legally dubious or copyrightable. Yeah, don't don't do that, but here's the ability. Yeah, that's those are those are incredibly detailed There's sent willy the current Pat and Big Page. Which by the way, shout out to, I don't know if you know, Vex-telus? Yeah, Vex, yeah.
Starting point is 00:23:33 Who shows up to our shows. So he's a character creator freak. He just, did you see that reggie he made? I don't think so. He made like a photo scanned in perfect reggie. Wow. Posted on the subreddit. Okay, I because I I might have taken a crack at it and we'll see. I mean, also shout outs to Dakota Mcdoodle, who also made some cool versions of us. And yeah, definitely helped with some of
Starting point is 00:24:03 the details that like I was putting together into what I was building as well. Yeah, there's a couple of amazing, just down to the little quirks of the nose and the bit and stuff, you know? And something that I've found I've been able to do in a couple games recently that has been cool is I discovered this I think in WoLong when I was making the to do in a couple games recently that has been cool is I discovered this I think in WoLong when I was making the character creator and that if you go to like a game that has multiple tattoo Application features and in this case the Dragon's Dogma has two that you can apply you can find a like if I can find like a single line or a Like if I can find like a single line or a single circle, I can then create four dots and create a little small tattoo that goes right above my eyebrow and then create a single
Starting point is 00:24:53 line that goes right across my lip and basically make piercings, you know? If the game doesn't feature them. What you could also do is people figured out, hey, you know that tattoo slider can go really high oh You can cover like every single inch of skin on your body So people on the fashion dogmas subreddit were making like goblins. Oh Shit, okay, okay Full scholar full color recolors. Yeah full skin recolor, okay? But before I forget so I reached I saw that incredible Reggie. I don't did you see it. Yes, sir
Starting point is 00:25:30 I know actually I think I yeah, I think I know the one you're talking about. Yeah, it was it was bananas So I reached out to him and and I commissioned him to help me make like edits to my characters and now they are just like There's there's no They can get mm-hmm Shout out to vaxta list. Thank you. Yeah, I took a crack at a Reggie, and I think it's not bad I think it's not bad, so but we'll we'll see later Hey shout out to Capcom for like having a like huge wide variety of having a huge wide variety of excellent black character options in that character creator. It's nice to see the hairstyles doing what they're supposed to do, and I don't have
Starting point is 00:26:13 to talk about Hogwarts. You don't have to. It's nice to have a character creator that is doing equal amounts of awesome shit with black hair. Yes, that was quite cool. There's different fro thicknesses as well and there's different curl intensities. Yeah, it's nice and it properly shows to an interfacial hair. You can get like thick beards or loose hair beards or you know all the it's or just like even the mixture of grain. There's different types
Starting point is 00:26:51 of grain as well you know so. So if the second game is anything like the first it's going to be really funny because certain vocations the work that you put into your character's head is rewarded differently. So like fighters and warriors, etc. Like do you want the best gear? Get ready to wear that fucking bucket on your head. Just full complete. Really? So what you saw a lot in Dragon's Dogma 1 is that you saw a lot of people, and I mean a lot of people, who made cool looking pawns just didn't give their pawn headgear at all so that you could see their head and they would look cool Even though it was statistically worse So I get what hmm and here's here's a hold on because this this is one of those games that it's like hey
Starting point is 00:27:54 Guess what? There's a fucked up system for that In DD one and I assume DD two You have five weight thresholds. It's not like I'm encumbered or I'm not encumbered. It's you have encumbrance ranging all the way from very light, light average, heavy and extremely heavy and only at the top of heavy are you encumbered. Over encumbered. And that affects your stamina
Starting point is 00:28:18 and affects your movement speed and your jump height. So if you pull your helmet off to look pretty, and it kicks you one weight class down, it's worth it, because you'll be faster. Right, okay, if you get that, if you're at that limit. But also, hide helmets? Hide helmet option? No! Fuck you! Fuck your shit! Hide helmets is, you know, just to... Hide helmet option? No! Fuck you! Just if you need be?
Starting point is 00:28:45 Fuck your shit! Hide helmets is, you know, just to... That shit's for pussies! God fucking... Man... Next you're gonna tell me you want fast travel like some kind of dork! I mean if the design is built around that shit being expensive and difficult as you mentioned, then not necessarily, but the idea of glamour and cosmetics and stuff being something that you can highly fine-tune is always sick.
Starting point is 00:29:18 Yeah, you can highly fine-tune, just take your hat off. Yeah. There weuh. Okay. Bucket or nothing. There is a point in Dragon's Dogma 1 that somewhere around the 30 or 40% mark where you're like, I want more gear, but god damn it, I look like a fucking dweeb. Because not only is like, oh oh I got this weird helmet, but like you're too poor to afford the full set, you're wearing like,
Starting point is 00:29:53 scale mail and like rags for pants. You feel like, I'm doing my best. World Tour just threw on that like, what do you want to look like, what do you want your stats to be? You know they just they just had those two screens and you can just be as naked as the day you were born But like have the proper armor underneath it in terms of numbers Yeah, Dragon's dog was an incredibly strange series of games. It's a series
Starting point is 00:30:21 I guess I'm gonna call it because dragon darker ism was a separate really there are now going to wear like yeah anti quality of life features are presented with gusto With relish yeah, yeah like there there's like a really good example where in Darker isn't there was a super dungeon that you could get like, so you'd have like a move called Biting Wind and it would upgrade to like thousand wind or something and then you could get like million wind. These are the wrong names, I'm
Starting point is 00:30:57 remembering them incorrectly, but the point is there was like a third upgrade that came out with Dark Arisen, but it required you to wear a ring on one of your ring slots to even unlock the move to exist at all. And it's like, look guys, you can give up one of your extremely valuable ring slots to make one of your moves better. And like the most people were like, can't I just get the better move? No, put the ring on. Okay. okay. So yeah, there's
Starting point is 00:31:28 some intended limitation to the fun that can be had here, I suppose. Or the fun is to be found in the limitations. In DD1, they were so into the pawn system that you'd get a quest and it would be something really vague, like find the book and you would just get absolutely no guidance or quest marker of any kind and it would just be like go find the book and you're like okay and it's like they're they're they are banking on you hiring a pawn from someone that did do the quest, and then the
Starting point is 00:32:08 marker would show up on your map, but only the version of the quest that the pawn saw. So if there were multiple endings to the quest and the pawn you hired only did one version of them, the markers on the map will only appear for that variation. Yeah, yeah, okay. Huh. Yeah, I mean, I remember from the jump, it was that whole, wow, so pawns and the history they have affect your fucking run to that ability. It's so like you want your pawn to be cool looking and viable in battle because every
Starting point is 00:32:41 time they go out with somebody and find where an item is of treasure, how to fight a monster, where the environment is or where any quest responses are, they will pull that back in and work as, they will function as that guy in an MMO who already hit level cap and going, yeah, yeah, yeah, I know where to go for this. But it's so much more than just a summon sign, you know?
Starting point is 00:33:06 Because, yeah, it's going to literally change what type of shit you unlock. It's such a goddamn strange system because they're like, it's like a fake MMO. And people are like, can I play multiplayer? And I'm like, no. Why the fuck would you play multiplayer when you have these pawns, idiot? Geez. would you play multiplayer when you have these pawns idiot geez and setting the different dispositions and such I guess is a yeah so there was like a couple you want to have a stubborn pawn that's gonna run into battle and Leroy Jenkins there was a disposition in like um
Starting point is 00:33:37 DD1 called medicant I think was like hey it's a medic and if you put it on um like a mage they heal you a lot and you're like, oh that sounds great because I want my pawn to be a medic Did support I want my mage to be a healer. It was like disastrous Because if you took any damage at all The the mage would stop casting whatever they were casting before and switch to the waist Okay, okay, and and they would, they would become a heal bot. Okay. And it was like, ah, ugh.
Starting point is 00:34:10 Yeah, well, okay, and then- I hate that. Well, I guess this is where the ability to fine tune that behavior would be nice, and that's a great place to switch right over because you can fine tune that behavior to the nth degree in Unicorn Overlord. Oh my god, you were playing Unicorn Overlord!
Starting point is 00:34:31 I sure did. Stree! Unicorn Stree. I had to fucking explain Stree Overlord to my wife and that ruled. But now? Why the fuck did Wooly call his thing unicorn Stree Overlord? But now in my head it's already become Stree Overload. So now it's just unicorn overload and Stree Overload.
Starting point is 00:35:00 So we're well past the point of making any sense whatsoever. But yeah, did a session of that. And then after we finished, I kept playing. Because, yeah, that's- Because it fucking kicks ass? It really does. And I love seeing how, yeah, Vanillaware figures out, like, how to like, their art, their sprites are the main course. And it's like, how do we give you this
Starting point is 00:35:30 in the right amount of doses without overdoing it each time and such? And in this case, it's like, there's a whole lot of that game that is, well, effectively, if you wanted to, never see a Vanillaware sprite, you could. Every battle, you could press start to skip and every cut scene you could just ignore.
Starting point is 00:35:46 You could automate a huge proportion of it. And just turn it into an old ass, I guess, tactics ogre or ogre battle, right? Like types of type situation. But no, but you definitely want to sit and watch the awesomeness of that fight unfold and see every time a new sprite or a new character joins the battle and you want to catch their lines and stuff. And when you hire different recruits, you can like customize their little abilities. You can do a little quick build of them and their name and what they sound like, what type of...
Starting point is 00:36:15 Do you want your healer to Sun Sun when she heals you or do you want her to just be like apathetic goth? You know, like how how cheerful do you want your character your hires to be? Which is nice. I like that. Surprising amount of stuff to do on the map. I really kind of expected that more than you would expect way more than I would expect going on on the overworld map of that. Yeah, I thought a lot of that game would be kind of just like mission to mission. And then in between that, you might have a little bit of like talking to people here and there, filling out the story, and then moving on. But like a heavy majority so far is like shopping at these different places, getting the right equipment
Starting point is 00:37:06 that is limited at a certain shop. Hey man, this village sucks. You want to guard this village? Yeah. Finding them, doing their fetch quests for them, and then putting someone down that you can now have an S-Link upgrade with. Equipping everybody on your team with the best gear all the time is just literally not a possibility. You are not given enough to do so.
Starting point is 00:37:29 I don't know how I feel about that when I went to, in the demo, when I went to like, I'm gonna buy new swords, and they're like, well, we have two. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Who do you wanna give it to? And yeah. I wanna give it to everyone.
Starting point is 00:37:40 He's like, well, I only have two, so fuck off. You are, and that's the interesting thing, is like, you are shopping, but you're not upgrading your army. You're upgrading like individuals at best. It's treating it as if it were a small RPG party, but you've got fucking 10 mouths to feed and eventually more, you know?
Starting point is 00:38:00 And I'm still doing the like onboarding, getting all the different classes and stuff as you go around that first initial area. But yeah, it's fun though. I do appreciate that you can go see where the next mission is or side mission and such and kind of like, all right, I feel like I'm strong enough. Let me go take on this one.
Starting point is 00:38:23 Or I don't have the right ability to take on this type of class of unit yet. But it gives you a lot of opportunities to do sparring, to do fine tuning on your little Baba is unicorn system, your little programming line. That's good. You know?
Starting point is 00:38:42 That's good. I like that. The moment that shit kind of really, something I didn't get, because when you were first talking about it, light line. That's good. You know? That's good. I like that. The moment that like shit kind of really like something I didn't get because when you were first talking about it, it was like, yeah, you give your behaviors, you put them the priority and then you go into the like, what do you want to use as a prerequisite, right? And there's just like a full filter list that's like really exhaustive. Although I found an element not precise enough, interestingly, is that you can't sort by class
Starting point is 00:39:09 type. You can only sort by like infantry or flying or like attributes of a class, but you can't specifically say target a Griffin rider, right? You can say target flying. Yeah, no, it has to be somewhat vague. Yeah, yeah, which? You could say target fly. I know it has to be some somewhat vague Yeah, yeah, which would be too general and it would probably be too strong if you could make it absolutely Target the you that that exact element So I think a little bit of the the game is in having you target broader categories for a more optimal generalized strategy
Starting point is 00:39:44 So but but for the most part it's still smart enough to know that it's like hey for a more optimal generalized strategy. But for the most part, it's still smart enough to know that it's like, hey, if you've got a shield dude and you've got a, god, what was the term? A housecarl, which I didn't know that word before on your side. I also did not know that word before. Yeah, if you've got a housecarl with you. Axeman!
Starting point is 00:40:01 They're gonna go break that shit open. So no, there's a thing when you're setting all that up where it's like, oh, okay, well, if you don't target the flying, but I still want to make sure that you use your spear to hit like a row of people or whatever, just create another version of the primary attack and then set that priority to target a row of enemies that's full. Make it higher. And you're like, oh shit. So you literally if this, you know, then this. You program these shit. Else that. So that was a that was yeah pretty a pretty fun aspect to it. I guess my question is when people are comparing this to the Gambit
Starting point is 00:40:50 system, was the Gambit system anywhere near as in-depth though? Oh no, the Gambit system was way more complex. Oh really? Okay. Gambit system was the fantasy of completely automating the entire Final Fantasy game. Okay. So all their behavior is predetermined. So 12's Gambit system is what leads to 13's weird system where you weren't really choosing specific attacks. You remember that weird thing?
Starting point is 00:41:27 I was like, be more defensive. OK. Yeah. Because like, yeah, if you spend enough time in 12, you just place itself. Automate. OK. The the the you're you're spending time in the menu instead of in the in battle menu. Is including just making every decision for yourself ahead of time. Was any of that changed in the international
Starting point is 00:41:49 job change version? Yes, they gave you a fast forward button. Okay. Okay. You could hit L1 and it would go, well, this is automated anyway. Okay. So we're gonna do it at quadruple speed.
Starting point is 00:42:03 So I guess it's like if you enjoyed Your programming being super tight and then watching it steamroll or just not steamroller or whatever There's some enjoy there's fun to that to setting up the things up I didn't beat it, but I got to the part where the game starts to fall apart And yeah, I had automated the whole party. It was cool. Yeah, no, as though when you do it yourself, like there's some pride in that. I'm sure that's fun.
Starting point is 00:42:29 I can imagine. But it was even more in depth then. Oh yeah, no, the Gambit system's ridiculous. The Gambit system is the most in depth party control system in advance I've ever seen. The only thing I can ever think of that even comes close is Dragon Age Origins also did what is essentially a gambit system. And was there a easy out for someone who didn't go in depth with that? Like did they give
Starting point is 00:43:00 anybody the ability to- Yeah, pick your commands in the fight. Okay, just don't good Don't don't even just play it. Just play it normal. Okay. Okay interesting hmm Yeah, I I do I mean look I got look how hard I got into Yomi hustle, right? I do have Part of me that loves that set it all up in advance and fucking pre-program it and then let it roll you know aspect to it
Starting point is 00:43:25 I guess the The thought is there's as my army grows the less I'm getting that granular about it though, right and in Unicorn Overlord, you know You you get tons of people you start hiring tons of people and you get way, way, way many units that you're building out their positioning and each group of six is trying to figure out what the optimal positioning is, so placement is. At that point, there's a level of like, okay, I'm not going to go into every single one
Starting point is 00:43:59 of these hires and give them exactly this setup with this exact equipment and stuff. So I do feel that I'm like, for the major units that I have my heroes on, those are the ones I'm paying the most attention to. But I can feel that there will be a like, and you guys are kind of good enough. And so far, I haven't hit a challenge yet that's been like, if you don't go in and fine tune this,
Starting point is 00:44:23 you're going lose, you know so Yeah, I guess the the the question is is like what is the late game look like for this and like will it require you? To get in there and start like putting really optimized I mean, that's a question right because I bet I bet it'll ask I Bet you could brute force it with enough like army power But like there there are like multiple orders of management. There's like your army management on the strategic level then there is the the unit management and then there's like like unit as in group of people and then there is Character management, right? as in group of people and then there is character management right you can
Starting point is 00:45:08 decide to go all in on the strategy and just go with like normal units or you can min max your units or you can min max the players inside those units get a street you can get a strategic or as tactical as you want so far or you can do all of it and you probably steamroll the fucking shit out of the game If you do all of it, but then you're beating it in the menu as opposed to on the field Yes. Yes. I do also get the feeling as well that like If you kind of just mash your default unit setups into each other and shove them forward You will overcome
Starting point is 00:45:47 most of the fights but your dudes are gonna go down more often and you kind of have not glory honor points to fix those mistakes in a way. So like you can use honor for your specials or you can you know use your specials, or you can use your map abilities. And honor will kind of become the currency of like, yeah, your tactics were not optimized in that fight, but you took over the fort. You garrisoned. Here's your honor points.
Starting point is 00:46:19 You can chill and fix that back up or whatever the case is. So it is kind of forgiving on that end too. But obviously going in and being more precise about it, like most of the fights so far, because I kind of set him up in advance, you have been like, you take zero damage, you crush the opponent. You're just rolling through. The other bit too is when it comes
Starting point is 00:46:44 to which accessories to put on any given unit and it's like there's You can how man you can wear any two, but you can't wear the same two You know and like they're like, okay fuck now if I look at an accessory That tells me that this person like if the accessory gives me a certain type of build Then like you can now work that whole unit around the accessory that you're picking up or a special weapon that has a unique ability, you know, magic attack or whatever the case is. So yeah, yeah, it definitely is as much and as far as you want to zoom in so far, it will let you do that.
Starting point is 00:47:20 And I appreciate when a game can like, let me go to the amount that I want to, and then if I decide to kind of be like, you know what, I'm good. I'm good. I'm going to stop here. You know, it'll be like, okay, that's cool. You can still keep playing. I've often laughed about the insanity of the Disgaea item world inside an item world, you know, and the tangent to the tangent and the madness of going deeper and deeper before you're like, where the fuck is the overall, like, we're just incepting at this point. But admittedly, if that's all just like, yeah,
Starting point is 00:47:57 it's not at all mandatory. It's just if you want to fucking get a super sick weapon and make your weapon the strongest and or find a better weapon inside of the one that you're currently making stronger, you know, but you can kind of just roll with it and it's like, okay, cool. That's that's fine. Ultimately. Yeah, no, I'm I'm enjoying that and probably gonna push a little bit further in. Other stuff this week. Balletro, I've brought it up a couple weeks now. It's firmly got its claws in me. I, I'm like... It's in. It's inside you.
Starting point is 00:48:33 It's in and it's because like now that I found like some winning combos, I'm like, yeah, like trying to like, there's runs where I'm just like, I'm winning but I'm not destroying. Let me restart this run. You know? Like the- Oh that's, okay. I know, I know the- Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:48:53 It's like, you're like, yeah! It's when I fucking play a goddamn run of Gungeon and I'm like crushing it, I'm no damage, and I get like the first gun, I'm like, I like this first gun. And I get the second gun, I'm like, I don't like this one, I'm restarting. Mm-hmm, mm I'm restarting nothing's wrong I can still make it a couple blinds in I can do it I can have the ante I want to fucking you know just delete the boss in a
Starting point is 00:49:13 second yeah crawling across the finish line or even walking across at a brisk pace is not enough I need to annihilate it and the feeling of like when you get your first two jokers are like a fucking combo that is really good and so like I had a particular run where so I've beaten it so yeah I had a so far I'd beaten it once and then I was trying to get a another clear with a red deck and I got my first My first what like I my first joker I think was Campfire and that is every time you sell a card Your multiplier goes up
Starting point is 00:50:00 So but it goes up by 0.5. So straight up like not not in plus and points but in like again like multiplicatives so you can just buy a bunch of planet cards never use use them, sell them all, buy a bunch of jokers, sell them all. And so I started doing that. And then the next joker I got was Blueprint. And that is copies whatever the joker to the right is doing. So that goes together to just create a fucking snowball effect immediately of like, I sold a bunch of random shit, I now have a three times multiplier, oh this is gonna make it six. And like that first boss is just like done in one. In one play and I'm like, oh yeah let's go, right? And then furthermore, because the whole set up is based on selling shit, you can buy every
Starting point is 00:50:46 joker you see, and if it's a good one, keep it. If it's not good, sell it right away. And just roll again and roll again, and there's just no downside. And so yeah, by the end, the final blind, the final boss, it's asking you to get 100,000 chips, and I'm playing like 150,000 chips on one hand, you know, like I think I cleared it at like 270 or so and I was like, oh that feels fucking nice So yeah, the the way I'm playing it now is kind of just like give it two rounds Maybe three to see if I'm like absolutely annihilating with the setup
Starting point is 00:51:23 And if not, then fuck this. Another really good card, too, as well, that like was was nice because I was playing for like flushes for a while, and then I felt like the odds were just bending back against me. And a particular card that's good is a flower pot, which lets you get a big multiplier if you submit one of each suit in a given hand. a big multiplier if you submit one of each suit in a given hand.
Starting point is 00:51:47 So now it's an anti-flush. It's diversity in your hand is good. If you have one of all four, it pays off. And again, if you have a blueprint, which the other thing too is like having multiple jokers, they let you slide and change the order around while they're active. So you can sometimes make, you can make like, you're like, no, I don't want to put it over here actually in the middle of
Starting point is 00:52:09 the match, you know? So you can just go fucking crazy with it. Yeah, that's a really good ass game. So seeing it in the news this week is like, oh yeah, it's sold like a million or so and it's doing extremely successful and it's really doing well. It's like, yeah, that game is fucking great, man. Has there been any news on its fucking nonsense gambling classification? I don't think it matters because it's just doing well at this point. It's not been delisted or anything in any way that has lingered.
Starting point is 00:52:50 It's coming to mobile. It's selling super well. It got put back up on the store. Whatever that classification shit was, it seems to not matter in the long run, because yeah, whatever the fuck Peggy said, everyone's playing this game. And every update, I saw like, the last recent updates have had like new languages being added as well. So you go to the language option and it's like, oh, we're just going international with this thing. Like there's, yeah, a long tail for it, so. Oh, I mean, people fucking know playing cards. That's it, tail for it.
Starting point is 00:53:25 People fucking know playing cards. That's it. That's it. It's just playing cards. Yeah. It's real simple. That is international. Maybe these Gen Alphas that don't know how to read don't know how to use a playing card.
Starting point is 00:53:38 Maybe this is where I'm like, can we get the Steam Workshop to allow customizing the cards? Is there going to be an Italian card deck where you can get Scopa or Brisco 500 cards in there? There's different playing cards that are Italian-specific playing cards, or you can change the suits and it's a different style of game. I know that. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:53:58 A couple different countries have their own kind of playing card setup. That'd be fun. But yeah, I would not be surprised to see this like again, like after iOS, Android, all things, it's like, is there a screen? You can play this. I wouldn't be surprised if Netflix got a ballot roll out running on it. You know, if fucking samurai showdown is something they're willing to pay for. I'm still like, legit, super confused about that shit. About anything to do with Netflix works.
Starting point is 00:54:30 I played it! And I'm still confused. I played Netflix Samurai Showdown and I don't know what happened. It's crazy. It's absolute madness. I don't know why they're trying to stick their toe into the video game thing, but I mean, well, it's obvious why but it's so weird There's money and then they're video games especially when they're running inferior with
Starting point is 00:54:53 Options missing in the no ability to play with a controller fuck yeah, dude Hell we wait wait what there's no ability to play that shit with a controller not what I tried Maybe you know maybe it depends on the platform you're on but fucking Christ man. It's so weird. That's a bunch of stupid bullshit Anyway Beyond that yo, I didn't get to go because I've been very busy, but the Red Bull Kumi Tei took place this weekend in New York and it was the finale. I certainly wanted to go and there was the finals of everything that I was doing, the casting for it, the Canadian qualifiers happened.
Starting point is 00:55:43 Shout outs to Mena RD, just killing it with Blanka once again. Again? Yep. Jesus. Dude's beast and what else is new. But the reason why I bring this up and why it's notable and fun is because if anyone has been just curious about the state of Thuggery. The Red Bull Kumite was a fun return to Thuggery because they had Rob TV as a host and Eli Joe were there and the entire bit for the whole show was we're gonna be assholes to the loser. As soon as they lose in K-Fame pretty pretty much we're gonna just talk mad shit as Like from the moment they get up to when they walk off the stage and then they stand by the stage and they have to hand over their card and
Starting point is 00:56:33 Li Joe will say some wild shit and like rip your card up or toss it in the trash in the dumpster Right next to them and then they shove you in a taxi and get you the fuck out of there right next to them and then they shove you in a taxi and get you the fuck out of there. That's a particularly fun thuggery update for anyone who's been keeping an eye out. I think Shinlad FGC on YouTube has a thuggery compilation if you just want to catch all those moments condensed because it was a full day of Street Fighter, but there's a yeah, there's just him him and Rob TV Li Joe aka Li jerk and Rob TV You know being being assholes and then cutting back over to the announcing table Where Justin Wong James Chen and Tasty Steve are just like why why they being so mean?
Starting point is 00:57:21 It's fun sometimes oh man yeah Big Bird got it so rough. How rough we talking? Because Big Bird got up and got walked over to the dumpster, you know, to the trash thing. And then usually they all throw it in, they have to, Eli Joe takes your thing and throws it in the garbage. And for Big Bird he's like, you know what, actually, here, take this back, take it back home with you and give it to the better bird. Because Angry Bird is watching at home. Dude's just like, oh, come on! And the part two is that while this is all,
Starting point is 00:57:59 again, there's kayfabe to the fun of what's happening, there's definitely that like, they did just lose and it feels bad. And there's like, especially at that, like there is that like, Oh God fucking dammit, you know, in a first to five and like it's a, there's a real like, duh, inside at that point, you know, it's, it's a bit of that. Like the whole lesson, the salt on your wounds will make you strong. Sure. Sure. You know, there's there's a good reason why, um, they, yeah, they pretty much have
Starting point is 00:58:33 stopped with the post fight interviews and like UFC and stuff, because it's like, hey, let's not hold a microphone to someone who might be suffering a concussion right now. Maybe that's not the best idea. You know, um, um hey can you talk pancakes yeah thank you so much cool all right moving on back to you yeah don't do that um but like no you do that but like not every player that stands up after that match is like kind of smiling like ah you got me you know some of them standing there were like stone-faced like fuck
Starting point is 00:59:10 I think that you know you should be pelted with tomatoes from the crowd sure well Here's here's the next closest thing is is Li Joe's gonna go off screen and get a pair of scissors and cut your picture up in your face and Sprinkle the ashes into the trash face and sprinkle the ashes into the trash. It's good, I like that. So yeah, that was a... It's like you're being erased from history. It was, it really was, you know?
Starting point is 00:59:31 And then they write you down and cross your name out on the thing and marker on the big board. Oh man, I just saw somebody in the chat say put them in a pillory. That'd be great. I mean top 32 everyone that loses has to get into the stocks next to the finals look we have to escalate the brand somehow and Red Bull Kumite is taking a bold step right they're embracing the thuggery that we've abandoned that's great that's great so yeah you see
Starting point is 01:00:02 those league players got like find a bunch of money Oh, I'm kind of shoot for the Crocs they wore Crocs and they got fined for wearing Crocs. See it's like That's that's a problem To X K. Oh, you're not ready for this. That's what happens when you go too far in the fucking other direction, right? Oh, you're not ready for this. You need these types of moments like Kumi Tei, like salt in the wound, to remember your roots, to remember where the fuck you came from, so that you don't have that where you get fined for wearing the wrong shoes to your esports event. Fuck off with that man. Ugh. Yeah, that's- Like the usual rules for FGC events are like convenience store rules, like shirt, shoes,
Starting point is 01:00:55 pants. Yeah. Right? Like, wear a shirt, please. Okay, wear a shirt. However, you are allowed to rip the shirt off for a particular about five minute period like let's say you're Yeah, you have to put another shirt back on at some point, but if you're punko you can pull it off for a match That's okay. You're allowed to get real for if you're playing a high-stakes Marvel match. You're allowed to rip your shirt off That's okay, but you have to put it back on afterwards, so there's a timer that starts from the moment the shirt is removed I mean we like the FGC is the place that eventually filtered down its nonsense to the point where I'm watching
Starting point is 01:01:35 Justin Wang do a deep dive on what it means to get that gamer leg and I'm like I know that fucking leg and so enough he does the deep enough dive goes this is Marn's leg Oh when Marn had that fucked up leg Okay, okay, that's what that means. That looked like the plague gamer leg Well Gonna get you a picture to remind you I was for a second I was wondering what you meant by gamer leg, but yeah, the the Marlake was a bit
Starting point is 01:02:11 It was it was it was uh You went to a tournament with this with this gamer leg here you go Oh Jesus Why would you take a photo man? Oh Jesus Why would you take a photo man? Why would you show why would you show oh? God it looks like the play yeah, don't you can I'm not putting that in you gonna You want are you gonna find marn for having gamer leg if you want to lift that up you can but I were not we're not gonna assault our audience like that um no no I'm not showing the stream fuck you that
Starting point is 01:02:54 might be to us that's super close to fucking I'm not no um he had some kind of vascular thing I think he got better. Okay Well anyways, uh yeah, so kumite was fun for that. Oh, man. I'm feeling itchy now. I'm feeling itchy Why is my back suddenly scratching here, dude, I'll do you a favor I will delete this here It's deleted. Oh god. I deleted oh god I feel itchy I feel itchy okay okay okay it's like when you see fucking like spiders crying on stuff and all of a sudden you're like oh fuck what is that yeah okay um yeah no and anyway we we had the return of the slop this year as well the slop stream is back and
Starting point is 01:03:48 That was a that was a fun one in particular the Had a good moment of that wooly were a pre slop. I was looking around. I'm like This man has lost his fucking mind. Did he gentrify slop streaming with a form? Oh my god. Oh, we've been running the form for a while. This is the new and improved version. This is form 2.0.
Starting point is 01:04:18 No, no, I mean like the Google thing. Yeah, that's not new. That's not new. So to simplify the process, because, and again, shout the yeah, that's not new. Oh man, that's not new So so to simplify the process because and again shoutouts to everyone that's been vetting vetting and such and as it has been killing it with this there's a setup for the The form is so that people on Twitter can easily submit and then it can be all pulled and Vetted in a simplified manner because if people just reply to a long tweet, it's a mess. It's a fucking mess and it's impossible to track
Starting point is 01:04:52 and duplicates are hard to track as well. Once you have something that's in an Excel sheet that's nice and organized, we can do all kinds of organization to make sure that it's, you know, one, safe to watch, two, worth it, three, again, not duplicated, and especially if people are submitting multiple things and stuff. So it just simplifies the process massively, right? So at the end of the day, when you're sitting down, is it like kind of an automated thing,
Starting point is 01:05:18 or are you still pushing them into a playlist? So what's happening is that that form is for people that submit on Twitter and then there's a reddit thread where people can post in the reddit and just reply there and then yeah, Shoutouts Meadow who made a tool to rip all those into an Excel sheet as well and so there's those, there's two different lists right and sorted by up votes on the reddit side. So those two lists then go into the respective columns of Team Blue and Team Red. Right, right.
Starting point is 01:05:49 And there's a vetting process that. Yeah, but do you vet it? No, obviously. No, no, I know. I don't vet it. There's a couple folks we got on it. So yeah, Captain Piledriver, Solidus, Minita, Scudnates, Datasana.
Starting point is 01:06:02 Right. Uh-huh. I hope I'm not forgetting anybody, but I think that's the crew. Thank you guys. Did they put it into the playlist for you? And then they put it in the Excel sheet on each side. And then I go down the Excel sheet and, yeah, I go down the Excel sheet on each side. So you're saying that like me and page are one degree of Separation away from just putting whatever we want into that Excel sheet. I mean you already have
Starting point is 01:06:30 Yeah, yeah, it has Submissions in the past have made it and there's a notes section that says submitted by page for example I was like, oh, yeah, I see. Yeah, but we could just not put that We could just be like hey, hey dad dad Asna can you can you submit this well well well now I guess we'll have to have a little fucking round table meeting with my people security meeting immediately following the podcast all hands on deck. That's the good part. Are they loyal to you or are they loyal to laughing? Speaking of bro Why'd they kidnap that grandpa and draw marker on his head and make him say all that shit? So so that's the bit right? I'm familiar, I've seen Dracula Flow. Shout outs to Billy, SirMeow for introducing that
Starting point is 01:07:30 because he brought it out, it was at a party. Boo, I think, started playing it actually. Just, we were like, oh, we're doing the YouTube bit? Okay, what's up? And then it was incredible. Dracula Flow was the fucking greatest. But Reggie hadn't seen it, so it was new to Reggie. And I'm like, okay, we're fucking doing it.
Starting point is 01:07:46 All four. Man, God, filthy Frank, dude. Just to have the power to rebrand yourself as Joji to become a fucking pop star type, like that brilliance is also what is needed to write that kind of script. And it's so funny because Dracula flow is like, it's like peak, right? It's one of those things where like, Oh, we're going to be quoting this for, for years.
Starting point is 01:08:16 This is going to be as like, this is like Simpson's level quotable shit. Unbelievably hilarious for, for fucking, for the next decade. But when it misses, Oh my God does it miss? Because it seems to be entirely based on whether or not you are familiar with the idea of, I guess just like hood talk? Like are you familiar, like if you have any semblance whatsoever of like how people get braggadocious
Starting point is 01:08:44 in the hood, right? Yeah, of course Then you fucking know that this is the most hilarious insane shit because he's sprinkling real things with absurdities And it's the best but if you have zero inkling whatsoever of what that style of talking even is Then it just goes a million percent over your head and you're like, I don't get it. Why is this funny? It's random shit like yeah, I can't we can't help you you needed you needed the groundwork here I don't know what else to say. But if you do know then then you If you do know what it is, then when he comes in he goes I took a DNA test
Starting point is 01:09:18 It turns out I'm 100% him a lion cuz I'm him Fuck dude. Yeah, it's the best. Dracula flows, you're seeing the Giuliani fucking like ink sweating down the head. Oh, it's so like, it's the, it gets grimier over time, you know, you're seeing the reflection of the screen that he's reading off of in the glasses.
Starting point is 01:09:47 The occasional room just cracking up and then panning down to the cup full of watches and the rings and shit. Dracula flow. Fuck dude. And then the fact that part four is 10 minutes long, you know, it's nuts. It's so good. It's nuts. It's so good And like the power of The power of good comedy is like you're doing the same bit, right? He's like, you know, I don't give a fuck He's running the same bit. So you have to mix it up every once in a while to keep it fresh So yeah, you just said this long insane paragraph to keep it fresh. So yeah, you just said this long insane paragraph. Again, it's summoning the power of Rich Homie Quan, right? It's bringing that, like he's going on this long rant and then the next clip right after that is just as simple as so simple, so pure.
Starting point is 01:10:48 So yeah, we fucking, we, that I had to, we ended stream after that. I'm like, I'm annihil- I can't, I can't watch that shit and survive to continue the slop. We are going to, yes, slop stream stream wooly versus whatever coming your way that shit's gonna be isolated as a good bit and just oh I Feel as well to a little bit of the theming has last time around we watched I don't know if you did you ever see the King K. Rool musical music video
Starting point is 01:11:22 By any chance. Okay. There's this really great music video where musical video? Okay, there's this really great music video where they got the voice actor from Donkey Kong Country to sing in a very be prepared Lion King ask King K. Rool musical moment for the Disney
Starting point is 01:11:36 Donkey Kong Country movie that doesn't exist. Well, yet. But it was so well done and it went over really, really well. So I think a lot of people kind of saw that and were like, oh, let's submit a lot of music videos. So we ended up watching a bunch of music videos as well.
Starting point is 01:11:53 And they're all great, really cool animations by super talented people and great music from, you know, and stuff, but I feel like we're now getting tilted heavily in an asymmetrical way towards that. And it shouldn't be all that because it's also like, damn, there wasn't there wasn't a whole lot of slop in this this slop stream. There's a lot of quality shit, actually. And then we watched a I think it was like Red versus Blue season eight.
Starting point is 01:12:22 It was a scene where basically Monty Oom just signed on. Was it Tex whooping everyone's ass? The dark the dark the black halo yes yes yes yeah that's Tex okay so that was it is like okay right this is I don't know is that where Monty Oom like joined the team or were they I'm not a hundred percent certain but like it was clear that like as like yeah that's what we got going on here the the clan like it's funny that like as like yeah, that's what we got going on here the Clad like it's funny to see some of that action where you're like, oh god I remember similar moves like like and that exact style of like getting knocked away and then Catching up to the body in midair and knocking it down that was in dead fantasy and haloid and stuff And I assume carries on to Ruby as well
Starting point is 01:13:03 but Yeah, that was that was a fun little flashback. I wonder what ever happened to that company. Anyway. I'm sure they're doing fine. Yeah, so that was all pretty much the week we had. So yeah, tune in over on Woolly Versus. We're going to be this week jumping back in.
Starting point is 01:13:29 We didn't get to finish off Half-Life, so we're going to see if we can do that this week. Back to you. OK, so when you say that, to me that says you're like damn near at the finish line. You know what? I don't know. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:13:39 Last time I thought I was, it turned out I wasn't. So we'll see what happens. But we didn't get to do a Half-Life session. So I'm going to come back to that. We are still working our way through the Cabaret Club in the Yakuza 0 as well. So that's coming too. As for mentioned, Dragon's Dogma 2 will be on Saturday and this week as well might jump into a little little helldivers too hell divers yeah and you gonna you're gonna jump in there buddy well I
Starting point is 01:14:18 mean considering I was like hey fucking hell divers like a week ago yeah I don And you were like, I don't know, am I playing Helldivers? You said to me, I'll drop in when the mechs are there. I'm like, they're there yesterday. They're there yesterday. Yeah, like, oh, fuck. Oh, shit, the mechs are out. OK. So we've just been pushing days and whatnot.
Starting point is 01:14:40 But yeah, absolutely, I will join you for Helldivers. All right, we're going to do Helldivers on Wednesday. Wednesday I will also be streaming Hell divers okay with wooly verses over from Twitch.tv slash wooly verses what time you want to do that I start my streams at 3 Eastern but for me that's that's noon. Yeah, I can do that noon okay. Yeah um That's that's not a problem. Okay. I want a robot What is that? Oh, you're not gonna get what's the time to robot? Oh? Why oh?
Starting point is 01:15:12 Hey, I haven't checked in a bit what what level you got to be to get robot guys 25 Yeah, dude, I'm like level fucking 14. Oh Jesus Christ. Okay. Well, can someone else? I can't summon. You know what I can do? You know what I can do? I have friends.
Starting point is 01:15:30 Can someone call a robot that I can jump into? I will. I will. I will check with a I will check with a friend of mine. Okay. Okay. I just I want to get into a shitty Titan What I want to I want to feel the power they patched it so it doesn't blow itself up any oh
Starting point is 01:15:54 Man, yeah damn Like I wanted to get the welcome back pilot. Oh god. I'm sorry I oh no DT more like BS. Anyway. Alright. Um, yeah. So that's gonna be the week. Tune in, should be fun. What's going on? Ah. Well, it was my wedding anniversary on Sunday.
Starting point is 01:16:19 Congratulations! Thank you. Still love my wife! I saw- She's great! I saw the uncropped photo of the... You know what's really great about posting a photo of you smooching your wife and it's kind of cropped and then somebody draws a fucking hilarious edit? You mean somebody pulls the frame back? Yeah whatever. Of your wife kneeling and you're on a little stool because you're a small man. What's funny is that you and your wife retweeted
Starting point is 01:16:54 because like oh man that's really funny and then check this morning only to see that you helped them ratio your ass. ratio your ass That's nice That's great I'm not that small I'm only the smallest I don't know if you saw the chart I'm pretty small but So love my wife gonna be together forever have baby now baby great amazing let's move on yeah Paige wants me to ask people about this because we had like a discussion the other day and it just completely stalled out due to a complete lack of like like
Starting point is 01:17:37 no Venn diagram touching and when she went ate some burritos and I was like I really didn't like those burritos and I was like, I really didn't like those burritos. And she's like, why didn't you like the burritos? And I said, well, I liked the burritos from the other place because they taste red. And she said, what the fuck does that mean, taste red? I'm like, well, the burritos at the place that I like taste red, but the burritos at the place
Starting point is 01:18:01 that I didn't like taste white. Okay. red but the burritos the place I didn't like taste white okay and I get it hold on I'm being told that she did not ask me okay I'm bringing it up I get it you get it I get it I get it and I'm like honey it's like when you it's when you it's when you drink a Gatorade and it doesn't taste like blueberries and it doesn't taste like you know, whatever it tastes like blue. Right? And like yeah, no. And she's like, what does a blueberry taste like? I'm like, it tastes like a blueberry. I don't need to define it by a non specific vague color. It tastes like a very specific blueberry but like this I like things can taste green and red and yellow and white okay I can't speak for
Starting point is 01:18:54 the extended chart that you're getting into but the initial premise of a burrito that tastes red or a burrito that tastes white makes perfect sense to me because the reasons why Suvlaki and a hero are my favorite food is because they are they taste what they taste white and yeah, it's on yes I love that. I'm any and things that taste white. I love I'm a huge fan of that that creamy kind of Thing over the more salsa kind of you know, or like pasta sauce kind of thing. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. There's stuff that's more tomato.
Starting point is 01:19:30 Tomatoes in the sauce are the basis of what you're getting. Anything that uses tomatoes as the basis of the sauce, whether it's a salsa or a ragu or you know, anything like that is going to be more red tasting for sure. And anything that's more sour cream based as the sauce or cheese or so based is going to be more red tasting for sure and anything that's more sour cream based as the sauce or cheese or so based is gonna be more white tasting. Yeah exactly. Exactly. Million percent. Yeah. And I think it tastes better. It's so obvious. So obvious I couldn't explain. Yeah no. This is not the outcome. No bit. There's no no bit here I get it completely
Starting point is 01:20:05 you're correct yeah oh no what are we gonna do with the 10 minute block of time that was scheduled for the fight that was supposed to happen Oh God yeah, no no bit. It's great. Oh red red and white What else I've been working on something for a video this week that I can't talk about Yeah, pretty all right pretty slow week just enjoying being a dad and a husband it's good stuff family family Cool, if you want to see me play Helldivers with Woolly on Wednesday, you can go to either twitch.tv slash PatStairs or twitch.tv slash Woolly Versus.
Starting point is 01:21:14 And then, oh, let's see what I actually, before I say anything, let me very carefully check what I literally wrote down on my schedule for this week I used very specific wording here okay so on Wednesday no what is it March 21st was that Thursday Thursday at 2 p.m. Pacific I'm streaming a secret thing that I can't tell you about and will announce one hour before the stream It could be anything at all It could be anything at all. What could it and then Friday and Saturday? I'll play a bunch of Dragon's Dogma 2 Okay, but that Thursday one could be anything. That's over at twitch.tv slash past-series.
Starting point is 01:22:13 Nice. It's uh, it's Soldner X, isn't it? Pardon? It's Soldner X that you're gonna be streaming. You know, I'm kind of annoyed that I can remember the name that you're saying to me but I can't remember if I've even seen it. I remember reading it. This goofy ass play Asia shmup from back in the day. I'm gonna be super pissed off if I'm gonna look up footage and I'm like do I see it?
Starting point is 01:22:43 It's the one that's gonna make you long for Einhander because it's not Einhander. That's what it is. No, that's a lot. You're gonna look at it and you're gonna be like, oh, I miss Einhander. There's a very particular way that the little police ships kind of fly into the screen that was so sick
Starting point is 01:23:03 back in the day. Anyway. Why did we never get more Einhander um it's so good yeah oh no that's one that could blend to blow the dust off of that they never did like the the the most recent the most recent acknowledgement of Square Enix of Einhander was in 2015 with the goddamn oh what was it called the fucking Crystal Lake dungeon in FF 14 and patch 2.55 where there was one boss 14 has an Einhander reference damn it's old it's old now wow okay that's nuts huh Kingdom Hearts the keeper of the lake that's the name of the fucking dungeon oh okay um here I will send you a photo.
Starting point is 01:24:08 People are saying Kingdom Hearts 3. Really? Really? Wow, that's crazy. Kingdom Hearts 3 has a fucking Einhander reference? That's cool. Okay. See, um, if you know what Einhander is, you will know it as that fun shmup that Square put out back
Starting point is 01:24:28 in the day on PlayStation. But if you don't know what Einhander is, you will know it as the game that your eyes thought was FF7 when looking at the rental wall because the cover was bright white and it had a font in the place that you're like, is that FF7? You're like, no, no, no, that's another game. But it had a very similar feel. that you're like is that ff7 you're like, no, no No, that's another game, but it had a very similar feel got a point You know it had a feel when you're looking at a rental wall. I had her felt like ff7 That's a very particular feeling you had to be walking through a video store in the late 90s to hit
Starting point is 01:24:59 but if you know what I'm talking about, oh, you know what, I do have a bit of a life story. So the weather's nice enough that we can bring our little man around in a stroller, which is fucking adorable, and every now and then I walk the dog simultaneously, right? So I'm walking my ugly dog who's really friendly, and I'm pushing my tiny little baby who's super cute And you do the hey to you know people on the street
Starting point is 01:25:32 And people that look at you and then look at the baby and then look at the dog and don't smile once Monsters Monsters. It's a check. Right? Like they don't, they don't, the fucking, the crook of their fucking mouth doesn't go up once at a hello. It doesn't go up once at a cute baby. It doesn't go up once at a cute dog. Like there's something fucking wrong with you. Okay. Okay. Roll of the dice. roll of the dice, I follow along. They might be having a terrible day, to be fair. Well, wouldn't you just wanna see an adorable little baby and dog?
Starting point is 01:26:13 Oh my God, look at him, they're so cute. That probably would be what you would want to help throw that, change that up, yes, that is true. But, yeah. It's like just, it's just this great feeling of like oh man, oh this judgment feels really good Um, I can just I can just put it out there and it's correct partial to the cows
Starting point is 01:26:37 Running outside for the first time after being inside all winter Mm-hmm punch bomb is super into that. And just like cows experiencing summer for the first time after a long hard winter inside. And they're just trying to express joy with their bodies and don't know how. And it's like, yeah, that'll do it. Or there's an Instagram channel or there's an Instagram page that has someone that plays guitar
Starting point is 01:27:06 and has a dog that's in a field of flowers and it's literally just like fucking postcard FMV type insane shit. Yeah, anyway. But again, you never know. But yeah, I understand the judgment. I understand where the smug is coming from. Cool. All right. Let's take a quick break. Yeah, let's take a quick break. Get back with
Starting point is 01:27:35 the news. I got a pee anyway. Beer, babe. I have a baby update. Oh. Okay. Sometimes when you go to kiss the baby, the baby looks at you and you go give me a kiss and they go and they turn away and they bury their head into mom's shoulder and they're laughing and smiling because they're so happy they can't even look at you that and then you kiss them on the top of their head and they're like It's great fucking kicks ass It's a baby baby update baby update
Starting point is 01:28:12 Update Can we talk about the city of the Wharves. Okay. So the audio listeners, you didn't see, but I like shakingly held up my hand as like an out, like an open palm and then touched it to my face. earlier today I watched a trailer for Fatal Fury City of the Warves and I went oh man it's City of the Warves and Paige went what? And I went Warves and just completely refused to explain myself at all. That's correct. And I felt like a deep, deep joy. This is good. This is pure. There are a few pure things left. This is one of them.
Starting point is 01:29:19 Garou, city of the wharves, has revealed itself, finally at long last. We got the announcement trailer, we got our first two screenshots, and we got a little bit of teasing here and there, but we got to see finally some gameplay and some characters and a whole bunch of shit.
Starting point is 01:29:38 So, it's fucking Garou lore discussion time. If you thought for a second you were coming into this podcast Not talking about the state not gonna talk about Warves the state of Garo Densets Then too fucking bad because here's what's going on. We got to see the announcement where they just kind of showed off a couple of the characters and then Yeah, the full and then the systems as well. So gameplay wise,
Starting point is 01:30:06 it seems as if they've got like kind of like how Street Fighter 6 has the rev, has the drive system. They've got the rev system now. And the there's going to be rev blocking and rev excel. So what and it looks like you can just do EX moves into each other. And it seems like you can kind of just- That's crazy! Yeah, as long as you have the meter for it, you can do a rising tackle diagonally and now into a power dunk at the end if you've got the bar. So just go, go, go, go, go, right?
Starting point is 01:30:42 Mark of the Wolves has always been like, yeah, one of the most solid and fun of the SNK games, but like to keep up with the kids to come back to this day and age, you're going to have to, you know, make things a little, a little more exciting. So I, I w I'm not surprised to see them take a crack at that and add something that's a little more like spectacle oriented considering how kind of tame it could be at times. Oh yeah, I'm being informed by people in the chat as of a couple hours ago, Justin Wong put up 40 minutes. Oh, he got matches.
Starting point is 01:31:13 Oh, he got matches going. Damn, okay, I haven't seen. Just a bunch of matches. As of right now. Oh shit, okay. So yeah, we got to see the style style of the game visually which I was wondering someone's great. It looks great It looks really nice and there's a nice stylish pop art effect that goes off. Whatever they do one of their specials You know what it looks like? Hmm. It looks like what Marvel infinite should look like right, right?
Starting point is 01:31:43 Marvel 3 style with the with the comic book pop. Yes, 100%. I super agree. When you saw that effect, I mean, to be fair to Marvel, they had a lot of the effect of when you saw Wolverine doing Berserker Barrage in the original. He's slicing through the panel of the comic, right? It looks like a really distinct effect.
Starting point is 01:32:07 And then Infinite didn't, not Infinite, even Ultimate, they didn't really carry that effect forward aggressively. They did a bit of that on launch, but it wasn't like huge identity of the game. What you're seeing here in City of the Wolves looks really like aggressive with that style. But the rest of it is also fairly just like, it just looks sharp, it looks tame, you know, looks pretty good, the backgrounds look detailed. I was wondering if they would go for something really bold, but I also know that like SNK is probably not in a position to get too expensive an art choice with these games, right? Like the KOF and Samurai Showdown visual style is showing you the range they have.
Starting point is 01:32:55 So maybe I'm like a stupid asshole. So like, let's all just sit and believe that for a second. it's possible. Okay. Done. I look at Mark of the Wharves. Sorry, I look at City of the Wharves. Correct. And I look at what I feel like KOF 14 should have looked like. Oh for sure. For sure. The problem was- Like this is the first of all the 3d smk games
Starting point is 01:33:27 Where I'm going like yeah, okay? Well cuz kof-14 was the first of the 3d snk games that was like hey, we can't do the sprites anymore Time to start this route. I guess we're gonna start our for our baby steps as the simple 2000 Andy Bogard, and we'll take our steps from there. I mean, I'll always remember at the, I was at the presentation for when they were revealing Sam Show and they just had a screenshot of Nakaruru in KOF 14 versus in Sam Show and it looked unbelievably bad next to the, next to next to that version.
Starting point is 01:34:05 It was so much worse, you know? So they've stepped it up quite a bit. And here, stepping it up again, it just looks like a pretty good 3D representation of these characters. There's that little, again, that hope that you're going to get a really crazy new style of like 3d or something that's gonna happen in a way is is gonna be expressed in the way that the flash occurs when you do supers when you do specials a lot of that extra stuff but it looks good um we're seeing uh rock howard terry Terry Bogard, Tzok the Griffin, Houtaru Futaba, and Preachah. So Preachah is interesting because Preachah appears to be the student of Joe Higashi doing a bunch of Muay Thai.
Starting point is 01:34:58 However, if you are an eagle-eyed lore follower, lore enjoyer, you might remember when Mark of the Wolves 2, the original sprite-based game, first had its details leaked and like some of that stuff was found on an old disc from the ancient coffers of SNK that shut down. They had sprites of characters that were supposed to be new, one of which was for a character named Kwan. Kwan was a Joe Higashi student, and she had orange pants, and like a white top, and a Muay Thai stance. And you saw standing next to her, Joe Higashi, with bandaged up arm, and like a crutch.
Starting point is 01:35:39 So... Yeah, because Joe, strangely, despite being a major character in Fatal Fury, just didn't get one of his disciples out forward into Goro. There was no Muay Thai representative. You see then this character in some of the sprites. And there's also concept art for a Muay Thai girl that has Joe Higashi bandaged up next to her. And like, some of it ranges from him just being like in a sling, but there's one where Joe is like in mummy wraps. Like his whole body has been fucked up like super duper bad.
Starting point is 01:36:20 And he's just like barely able to move but he's like go fight on my behalf type of that's the move that put me in the hospital there you go so Kwan the has a it seems like they took Kwan's design and updated it they kept the same color scheme and redesigned it to be Preah who's got like glasses and blue and pink hair and overall a bunch of the Joe Higashi ass hurricane Muay Thai style moves so that seems cool. The other bit is looking at some of what you're seeing Terry and and and well okay Griffin right Tzok you're seeing him do everything you'd expect. His lunge and grab goes a little bit further, but now his like super that does
Starting point is 01:37:11 like multiple hits has like different styles of punches and lariots to it. There's something in this footage that I saw during Tzok matches that I'm absolutely in love with. It is such a specific fighting game-ism, like fighting game idiosyncrasy that maybe some people don't care about, but it made me laugh really hard. So Tsock in his old move, big ball, he would grab you off the floor with one hand and he would smash you into the ceiling. But it wasn't the shhh... it wasn't the... wait, it was fall? I'm pretty sure it's big fall. I thought it was big ball.
Starting point is 01:37:53 Big fall! That makes way more sense. Anyways, he smashed you into the ceiling. But the ceiling isn't really the ceiling, it's the edge of your TV. Right? Yeah. Because the stage doesn't actually have a top to it. isn't really the ceiling, it's the edge of your TV, right? Because the stage doesn't actually have a top to it. When you see him do the move now, they use the 3D camera and he grabs you by the neck and there's the speed lines and slams you into nothing.
Starting point is 01:38:21 Into nothing. Into nothing. There's no ceiling, there's nothing. Into nothing. Yeah. Into nothing. Yeah. Yeah. Like, there's no ceiling, there's nothing. Yeah. It's where the top of the screen would be. Would have been. But he slams you into nothing at all. Exactly.
Starting point is 01:38:33 Before finishing the move. And I saw one with Rock. Rock can, like, does a super, and Terry bounces off the edge of the stage, but he's bouncing off of nothing. The camera rotates to show you the stage wall that is nothing. Yes, correct. And it's hilarious.
Starting point is 01:38:51 It's so funny. The rules of fighting games still apply even though we can rotate the camera to angles you otherwise wouldn't be able to see. Yeah, no. It's great. It's fucking great. You're seeing you're seeing exactly that. I always also interpreted that when you're getting like Izuna dropped by Tzok
Starting point is 01:39:11 that like the speed lines are meant to convey that you're flying super high into the air and then super far back down to the earth. It's also to like trick you in the fact that like Tzok is actually moving across the screen at an incredibly slow pace. At an incredibly slow, ridiculously slow. Also... Speed lines are crazy. You can do all sorts of crazy shit with speed lines. Important too. Not the king of dinosaurs.
Starting point is 01:39:37 Tzok the griffin. No, he's back to Tzok. Well, I mean, he always was. The king of dinosaurs... Well, he's not the griffon. The King of Dinosaurs, whoever that might be, remains in the world of the King of Fighters. But in Fatal Fury, we've got Tzok, you know? And that's a fun little bit, too, because if you think about Raiden and Big Bear back
Starting point is 01:40:00 in the day, it's a similar kind of mask mask on, mask off kind of K-Fave bit. So yeah, that's one of the things they showed off. We see a couple of other things that Rock and Terry are pretty much doing the moves you recognize, except now rising tackle going diagonal, suddenly it makes sense and is like, okay, suddenly it's actually has a utility that can function properly, even though the actual physics of what he's doing remains the dumbest anti-Arab ever seen. You know, Wully, we've had like a lot of discussions over the years. And like, I remember so many times the argument came up of like, rising tackle is like the worst move, from like a concept point of view.
Starting point is 01:40:51 Like, one arm out, upside down. One leg up, spinning. Oh my God. Just, it is so awful. And it screams, we're not doing a show, you can shut up! We're doing our own thing! This isn't a no, this is not a rising uppercut! It's its own thing! Shut up though! Don't sue us, fuck you! It screams that! You can't sue us! It screams!
Starting point is 01:41:20 Yeah, there's nothing remotely resembling a tackle about it for the record. So, that's nothing remotely resembling a tackle about it, you know, for the record. So that's all there. But interesting, at the end of the trailer, we see a moment where Rox, like this was for you, Terry, power geyser, right, and does an actual fucking Terry move. You're like, oh shit, that's cool, that's interesting because Terry Rock's moveset has always been a take on Geese Howard's moves and a fusion of Terry Bogard's moves together. So he's got a rising tackle, he's got his own crack shoot version of the kick, but then he's got a rapuken and
Starting point is 01:42:00 he's got the counters and the deadly rave, obviously. So a lot of that is there. But now the question, I suppose, is what are the lore implications? Because anyone who might remember Mark of the Wolves, the story, if you unlock the true ending with Rock Howard, he beats Kane and he's about to basically, he's about to beat his ass and and be done with him but then Kane reveals that uh I still know I know I your mother's still alive and I know where she is and then rocks like and then
Starting point is 01:42:38 so Terry comes out later and I was like yo rock what's going on where you going and he's like Terry leave me alone, what's going on? Where you going? And he's like, Terry, leave me alone. And then he partners up with Kane, and he basically gets blackmailed into being a bad guy. So are they going to follow up on this? And Terry's like, hey, I trust you, whatever the case may be. But Rock getting forced to the dark side was the cliffhanger that we left out on you know
Starting point is 01:43:06 So yeah, are we gonna see that continue? Or are they gonna is that gonna play a role at all and what's going forward in time and is he doing a power? Geyser out of just like hey, I won't forget One things for sure Terry Bogard does a Buster Wolf, and it looks like shit. It looks so bad. That Buster Wolf looks terrible, man. Come on. So like.
Starting point is 01:43:33 It's flaccid. It's the best move Terry's ever had, and they made it look weak. Come on. Actually, it's really funny, because there were always different parts of the Buster Wolf animation, like part of the hidden yelling out The absolute nonsense. Are you are you okay?
Starting point is 01:43:54 Like it's it's it's part of it right But there were always there were always two parts to the buster wolf There's the hit with his fist and then what looked like the explosion that came off like behind him and like Did the follow-up yet on the on the opponent? Yeah, and what they decided to focus on in city of the wharves is the individual strikes of the explosion That's spiked the fucking, gah! And then they got that in KOF XV as well.
Starting point is 01:44:30 Everyone understands the idea of the impact of why this works and the explosion of the final hit and the positioning. Smash Brothers, you know what I mean? You get it, it's such a sick move, it's iconic, god damn it. Smash Brothers gets it, man! It's like fucking up the Sh. Smash Brothers gets it, man. Well, it feels like fucking up the Shin Shoryuken, right? You're like, you know that the wharf is what matters here. Don't fuck up about the wharf. It's all about the wharf. You can't suck up the wharf. So by the way, people said we've said this before, sometimes people don't know what we mean by the wharf.
Starting point is 01:44:58 The wharf is that noise you make when somebody sucker punches you in the stomach and you're trying not to throw up. Wh-wh-wh-wh-wh-wh-wh-wh-wh-wh-wh-wh-wh-wh-wh-wh-wh-wh-wh-wh-wh-wh-wh-wh-wh-wh-wh-wh-wh-wh-wh-wh-wh-wh-wh-wh-wh-wh-wh-wh-wh-wh-wh-wh-wh-wh-wh-wh-wh-wh-wh-wh-wh-wh-wh-wh-wh-wh-wh-wh-wh-wh-wh-wh-wh-wh-wh-wh-wh-wh-wh-wh-awawawawawawawawawawawawawawawawawawawawawawawawawawawawawawawawawawawawawawawawawawawawawawawawawawawawawawawawawawawawawawawawawawawawawawawawawawawawawawawawawawawawawawawawawawawawawawawawawawawawawawawawawawawawawawawawawawawawawawawawawawawawawawawawawawawawawawawawawawawawawawawawawawawawawawawawawawawawawawawawawawawawawawawawawawawawawawawawawawawawawawawawawawawawawawawawawawawawawawawawawawawawawawawawawawawawawawawawawawawawawawawawawawawawawawawawawawawawawawawawawawawawawawawawawawawawawawawawawawawawaw wwaw www wwwwwwwww That's great. So Buster Wolf looking flaccid here. That's my only downside on the trailer. I hope that we do something about that shit, man. I also hope this. Beyond that though, yeah, Hotaru as well. Still looking like Hotaru. Guess what? She's gonna hump ya. Hotaru! She's gonna hope you're gato. She's gonna mouse. She looks exactly The same zero change literal which is nothing yeah, yeah, yeah a little a little to be fair
Starting point is 01:45:56 Everyone else does as well like it's like no time has passed whatsoever This might be taking place just like you know know, seconds after the first game ends, really. Yeah, 10 minutes later. Told Kane, yeah, okay, and then he shot him and then we're done. But yeah, that's the initial reveal. If they're going to follow suit at all with the sprites that we saw from that leak, you know, it would be cool to get like all the returning characters
Starting point is 01:46:26 there, but the, there was a sprite as well of Andy Bogard who like hadn't been seen in a minute since he'll Kuto Maru replaced him. But I'm, I'm really hoping that we get. I love Andy. Well, what would be really sick here is if we get like, obviously the twins, right? And like what the whole Kim family is up to.
Starting point is 01:46:49 Because now we know that you've got Kim, you've got Donghwan and Jaehoon, and then you've got Kim Soo-il, the cousin, you've got Gang-il, the teacher, and then his wife with the big sits. The train the teacher and then his wife with the big sits, you know, there's a whole there's a whole family of Justice taekwondo. It's a lot going on with that fan those Korean and you know what? I will throw in Choi and Chang in there too, right? They're criminals, but they've for Freddy Krueger and Choi and Chang are cool the extended Kim couple they should put them in because I like them the cap walk of the cap car the the cap on universe right so I want to see the full extent of that for sure
Starting point is 01:47:32 similarly Kushnud but Marco Rodriguez seeing what he's up to if he's gonna be the only Kyoko get representative or if we're gonna get someone else from You know the maybe maybe Mr. Karate in the form of old Rio Since that's what he becomes in the future Kevin fucking Ryan Crawling now Kevin darling on the ground Yeah, well, so it's it's kind of a shame dude But Kevin did die if they fast-forwarded in time we would be able to get grown up Markie the little kid that he hung out with,
Starting point is 01:48:06 but like, it seems as if we're probably not gonna, because it takes place too soon. And then yes, Freeman, aka NotEori, as well, has always been a favorite. I mean, Freeman is sick though, I've always liked his... What would you even do with like, NotFreeman? Like... What? What would you even do with like not Freeman? What? What would you even do with not Freeman? Right like what the fuck would Freeman's disciple possibly look like oh, yeah, just some weirdo You know what they would do they would pull an akki they'd go like it's a psycho killer, but this time. It's a girl
Starting point is 01:48:43 Yeah, that's a psycho killer, but this time it's a girl. Yeah, they were. That's that's the move. Right. And then, yes, of course, like the most popular breakout character from that game, fucking be Janet. Right. It's there's there's there's no question. She's coming back. She like escaped so hard compared to the other. Not at all. Did you see how fucking sick that pirate girl design is? It's incredible. She's one of the she's how fucking sick that pirate girl design is? It's incredible She's one of the she's one of the best pirate girl designs of all time. There's no mystery whatsoever like
Starting point is 01:49:12 She escaped terminal velocity on planet Garo and made her way out Everyone loves be Jenny so Yeah, and and similarly no one one likes Hokuto Maru. It's the exact opposite. He's stuck in that world forever. I don't care for him. So we'll see.
Starting point is 01:49:32 I hope we also get the other, there was another original character that looked kind of like a newsie kid. It was like a kid that was wearing one of them kind of newsie caps and like had a little vest and stuff with white hair. Don't know what his deal was, but it was kind of Newsy caps and like had a little vest and stuff with white hair. Don't know what his deal was, but he was kind of a fun design.
Starting point is 01:49:48 So, you know, I hope we get to revitalize some of those original leaked characters too. But ultimately, yeah, fucking City of the Wharves coming out 2025. City of the Wharves, man. My- Those wharves are ready to hunt. My gameplay wise, I remember one of the things
Starting point is 01:50:09 I was wondering is that they'd have to fix the top system and make Just Defend maybe a little bit less rewarding. Because there's a couple things about the game more in depth that were like, okay, there's something called Just Defend where it's like a parry in third strike Except instead of pressing forward at the last second before you get hit you press back, right? So you could do something like evo moment 37
Starting point is 01:50:34 But it's way easier and or it's less risky because you're pressing a block instead of towards your opponent And each time you could successfully do it you literally heal a sliver of life up. I always liked just defense. It's so rewarding. It's so, so good, you know? So yeah, for a healing ability, it's gotta be a bit harder, I think, or cost something. Maybe only during top mode.
Starting point is 01:51:00 Top mode was you'd pick one third of your life bar and during that, you character would flash, you would get access to a new move. In some cases, that move was amazing. In some cases, it was terrible and you'd never land it. Rock Howard's was big and slow and it was a really slow version of the crack shoot kick, you know, but in any case, yeah, I'm fully expecting to see some like KOF 15 style. You spend your meter to do like three EXs into one big final level one or, you know,
Starting point is 01:51:38 maybe like two EXs into a level two or something like that. And these maximum damage combos that'll do a big fuck ton for all your resources but yeah I guess we'll have to get a better look if Justin Wong's got a bunch of footage now as well yeah I was well I was taking a look at a bunch of it there's tons six tons of it's real match footage it's not like I sometimes you get the danger of like I remember when IGN put out Dragon's Dogma 2 footage and you're like I would rather be watching fucking nothing than this. Yeah, this fucking garbage. The number one feature that has to
Starting point is 01:52:17 fucking return of everything though unique to this game is the second after you KO somebody, there's like two seconds of movement where you can walk around and do anything, you can taunt them. But only during that two seconds of post hit KO, there's two unique taunts you can do, holding back and taunt or forward and taunt that are- And they're the best!
Starting point is 01:52:42 Yeah, they're totally like talking mad shit But you could only do them right after you win in that little moment You know like dong hwan would like lean down and talk shit to you. You know like it's great for me It's it's a t-zoc doing the the bridge gtl style Yeah, yeah, yeah, and then immediately after afterwards Dong Hwa and like he's talking shit and then Kim Kupon lands behind him. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:53:11 I want that. I want to see, I want the ability to like prime up the wings wind pose with Rock Howard, you know? Super cool. So yeah, really, really hoping that the flow of that ends up being... It looks like it's, again, like, Garou style, but with KOF XV levels of, like, I guess combo extensions happening. So should be great.
Starting point is 01:53:36 Just drop a nice roster on that of all the faves and some of the new ones we saw. And yeah, you got a good ass game. I'm excited for those wharves. I... I... Do we... hmm... I'm just like do I want anything to happen with Geese? Oh you don't. Do I want him to call out a grave? You don't. I mean, god. Like, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay. Flashback. But no! No! If Rock Howard can't flashback- well, no, I guess...
Starting point is 01:54:18 Can't he be Nightmare Geese? He can flashback to Dream Nightmare Geese. He could, because Geese was alive for the first couple years of his life You know he did have a solid maybe six or so five or so years right before Terry fucking blew his ass out of the that skyscraper. Is the implication here that like Geese taught a five-year-old how to do Raging Storm? I think the, no. So I think the idea is like, he kind of saw it peeking from behind a pillar, right? He saw it happening while they were fighting, but it's in his blood because a
Starting point is 01:55:00 whole part of like, every time he does one of the raging storm moves or when he does deadly rave neo, at the end, he goes, he goes like, ah, and it hurts him. And he's like, my blood is boiling. His wind quotes are all about how like his evil Howard blood, like the evil businessman CEO blood within him is burning inside. You know, like, it can only take the calm, the calm lessons of a homeless, like, pizza delivery man to get that out of him. Like, Terry's not calm. I mean. Terry's also got burning blood.
Starting point is 01:55:37 Yeah, but he's like off the couch. It's just not evil. No, he's on the couch, like, burning blood, you know? Like, it burns and then it goes back to fucking mellowing out You know, um Like he was it was burning for a while when Jeff Bogard died and and then he got it out of his system And now he just hangs out on the couch. He got his revenge. He did. Yeah, he got he got it And he's like, okay time to he didn't even want it
Starting point is 01:56:02 You know, he tried time to just make do he tried to save him Certainly they existed those blinded by ambition and And they wanted to fucking talk mad shit and pop off So they're like they pulled the a geese will pull the ultimate you didn't win fuck you You know which is cold as ice when you have a child. Like to literally be like, nah, taking this L and haunting your dreams is more important than my kid, though. Fuck. But yeah, and then when you go watch the
Starting point is 01:56:40 days of memories, you know, the the anime bits there, like rocks out and about doing this thing, living in in South Town, days of memories, you know, the anime bits there. Like, Rock's out and about doing his thing, living in South Town, trying to get the house in order, and Terry's just on the couch the entire time. He's just fucking, he's being, he's being Terry, you know? He's like, I raised you, I gave you the cap, we had our moments, now fucking go pay the bills, kid.
Starting point is 01:57:10 moments now fucking go pay the bills kid yeah I I will see if rock inherits his commitment to motorcycle ass slaps across the entire cast as all the girls girls sit at an Udon stand. Yeah. Terry, what was up with that? Damn. Don't worry about it. All right. What else is going on? With that, we also got a trailer for X-Men 97, which is coming out this week. That's some cool shit that doesn't happen often enough It's like yo, we're gonna resume where we left off in
Starting point is 01:57:51 1997 so I have I have a bunch of questions relating to that which is um Where can I watch X-Men 97 on because me plus It's up there. That's where it's going to be. Because um I was talking to Paige about this. She was also a big fan of X-Men. I said, Christ everybody, everybody. Like that's an anthem. But the part that that got her. I'm like, do you remember when they fought the Phalanx and she's like, no. Like, oh yeah, cuz that was
Starting point is 01:58:21 like the last season where they only aired every episode once and it never went in a syndication. Oh God. Yeah. Like, so that was extra hard to catch in Canada as well. And I just, I have these like visions of like an, of an episode in the last season when they cut to like the implication of Avengers, but they couldn't show them legally. They didn't think they had the rights to.
Starting point is 01:58:49 So you just see a spider hand, and you see, I think, maybe a shield, like a cap shield for a second, you know? Yeah. But it was because the phalanx were attacking the planet, or was the brood or something. But yeah, there was a bunch of shit that only aired like once
Starting point is 01:59:06 and one time slot ever So like I caught the phalanx episodes and they were cool as fuck And then I went to go talk to people at school about them And they're like what are you talking about that didn't happen because they would just watch it on syndication They would just see the reruns all that was that was the way that that was the easiest way for sure They would just see the reruns all the time. That was the way, that was the easiest way for sure. What is cool is that showing it off, like the first thing that you see and like the main... If anything it's like, okay, so they're going back, but I was wondering, I'm like, are you going to keep the animation style faithful?
Starting point is 01:59:39 And the answer is no, we're gonna make this shit look better. And they're doing... But they're gonna have faithful-ish... Models, models. The character... Shots. Yeah, the shots, the colors, the voice acting, for the most part, because I think Wolverine's different, but they're gonna...
Starting point is 01:59:55 He's not, he's just old. Oh, time, okay, fair. Fair enough. He's like 80. They're doing shit that is so like modern and sick with their team ups and stuff because like Fastball Special is like, yeah, that was how we started. Now you see them taking on Sentinels and doing all kinds of wild shit. That's more action oriented and hype for sure, but it's definitely like way beyond the scope
Starting point is 02:00:21 of anything 97 would have done, you know? But yeah, that's a fucking, that's a cool thing, I think, especially given like, I don't know that just another, I mean, another X-Men reboot certainly would have been like, okay, let's tune in, let's see what they're doing with it. But it's kind of like Ninja Turtles where it's like, well, it might hit, it might not, who knows what they're doing. Oh, this time you had a fun take on it. Okay, that's cool. You know, but like the idea of like going right back to that one is pretty dope.
Starting point is 02:00:51 Hand in hand with that actually is the... Just a little tweet, but Giuna retweeted this thing that was about X-Men Children of the Atom, the old arcade game. Just a bit about the sprites and the way that they designed that when Capcom was making them. When everyone does their special in that game, they make an X with their hands. So Wolverine, before he does weapon X, we, everyone, like, he crouches and does the pose for sure.
Starting point is 02:01:21 But not just him. Cap, uh, So I recognized it on Wolverine. For some reason, didn't recognize it on any other character. Cyclops, before he does the optic blast, right? He crosses his hands. Rogue does an axe with her hands as well. All of them do right before the pop.
Starting point is 02:01:38 And it makes perfect sense, because in Children of the Atom, when they did their super, you the big X, you know, and then they would do the big final attack. It was really, really cool. Like, they did it, it's just a subtle but nice effect to that. Something that has always been, just it always kind of bugged me was that the animation quality in Children of the Atom and in Marvel Super Heroes is so much higher than in all the Marvel versus games that came afterwards. They dropped
Starting point is 02:02:11 down the detail and the the amount of tweening on the sprites and stuff and like you basically saw the frame rate drop. But if you go back to original Children of the Atom and you go back to yeah Marvel Super Heroes go just look at Wolverine standing animation right. He's moving like Elena is in Third Strike. It's incredibly detailed and then you go see him in like you know Marvel 2 where they really just went for quality over quantity and he's just kind of like one or two frames or so. So it's just one of those things you mentioned earlier God we're talking about King of Fighters and we're talking about Ultimate Marvel. Yeah, and how they didn't carry some of the effects forward and it's like, okay
Starting point is 02:03:01 Marvel versus Capcom one looks way better than Marvel versus Capcom 2 CVS one looks way better than CVS 2 X-Men children of the atom andom, and Marvel Super Heroes look better than every versus game that's ever come out. It's just one of those things when you're like, well, how many characters you want? Well, they have to kind of look the same. We're making a sequel. We're going to make it on a faster time schedule. And to be fair, CVS 2's yellow diamond layout is gorgeous. It's super cool and distinct, but it's got nothing on the CVS1 arrows, you know, for sure. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:03:33 It is a matter of time and then like compressing the data as well. You go look at... I forgot, was it Guile? I feel like there's, I forget who it was, but there's a character in Marvel 2 that has a standing animation that's, I think, like two frames. Like it's, it's like dropped to- That sounds like Guile.
Starting point is 02:03:53 It's dropped to the most basic it's ever been. And there's so many other points of comparison from every other iteration where you can see the full animation, you know? And it's like, ah, God damn it. Even the way they slide when it's like, the battle for survival begins. Engage, right? Right before the full animation, you know, and it's like, ah, god damn it. Um, even the way they slide, but when it's like the battle for survival begins, engage, right? Right before the fight starts, you see them kind of sliding around with one or two frames
Starting point is 02:04:13 and then you actually start fighting. Yeah. So, um, and, but it's fine because if we do a lot of big 3D explosive particle effects, it'll just cover up how like, jagged and pixelated the Omega Red sprite looks, you know? Anyway, X-Men, that's cool. I like that X-Men. What'd they do to Rogue? Her fucking ass fell off!
Starting point is 02:04:45 Did it? Oh, you didn't see this? Oh no! Is it gone? Her whole ass just done fall off, man. They saw it snaked her? Oh, they sure did. Ohhhh. Fuck!
Starting point is 02:05:00 I didn't see it. Well, you're not gonna see it anymore. Yeah, well there it goes. What happens to Rogues ass? I bet that'll bring up a proper screenshot right away God damn it. Let me see. Here's the tweet. I'm sending it to you. Oh man to be pissed off. Oh Okay, hold on okay That screenshot is famous though. yeah, that's very that okay that famous rogue screenshot is is not indicative of the usual
Starting point is 02:05:33 That was a particularly caked up moment. I don't think that should be the baseline hold on Right like you need to you need to find a regular moment of rogue because that yeah that way No, but look on the floor in front of Apocalypse is crazy What do we got no, that's what it was like every time The Gat was not always in place. No no no no you can't use that retroactively It stops as soon as we go back in time. Yeah, no It stops as soon as we go back in time. Yeah, no
Starting point is 02:06:13 Yeah, they saw it snaked it but but again like there's there's I feel like you could find a Not that that insane shot from the apocalypse shot that the glory of that was not the regular Consistency of it. It was it of it. It was less than that. But Boo to the Cowards that Deny the Cake, fuck that. Rogue is... That's a character... Between that and the evolution haircut argument, that's war's blood will be spilled, man. Yeah, and here's the fun part where I'm sure we'll do an interview at some point
Starting point is 02:06:46 We're like well, we didn't want rogue to be like a sex object. I'm like, that's the No, no, I I don't imagine so And the fact that this this heat, you can see like so Mondo Mondo recently made the rogue toy and they didn't want any of it because it's classic rogue, but they put the evolution head on it so that you could put that just in case, you know, they don't think just in case. They don't want that heat. They don't want to get involved in the fight.
Starting point is 02:07:25 You can have whichever rogue you want. Leave us out of it. Um, yeah, so that is coming out this week. Um, hey! We got a new, okay, so Dinosaur News. In Dinosaur News this week... Oh, fuck yeah, dude. We've got an update, so that's the segment.
Starting point is 02:07:50 Okay, before we even go in there, we're looking at baby clothes, right? We're getting baby clothes from community resources and stuff. And Paige is like, man, girls have so many clothes. You look at your boy clothes and it's like, you know, trucks and dinosaurs and shit. Right? It's so limited. And I'm like's like you know trucks and dinosaurs and shit, right? It's it's so limited. I'm like yeah, but trucks and dinosaurs are so cool, and I said it like too loud Trucks and dinosaurs are universally rad There's there's no argument here
Starting point is 02:08:26 There's no argument here. Except for in the follow- I'm like a child, dude. I am like a baby. It's bad out here. The only thing better than trucks and dinosaurs is when trucks are dinosaurs. Oh my god. What about Cadillacs? Truccasaurus.
Starting point is 02:08:36 Tell me your new dinosaur news. Nintendo's lawyers have been sending infringement notices to Tom Fulp over at Newgrounds over adult art featuring Nintendo characters. You know, I gotta admit you really wound me up on this one. I mean... You wound me up. I thought you were gonna be like they discovered a new type of dinosaur that could drive a car. Oh, you thought Dinosaur News was Dinosaur News.
Starting point is 02:09:13 I see. Yeah, that's your mistake. I did think that. I literally did think that. That's your fault. Yes, that's... No, no. Dinosaur News is in fact actually Dinosaur News.
Starting point is 02:09:22 This is what we're doing. Nintendo has decided to pick up arms to take arms and start stabbing the ocean, telling the water to stay out of its territory. And Tom Fulp has replied and said that, yeah, we're complying to the best of our ability. And hey, if you do art, try to do original characters, I guess. But what the fuck are we doing? And Nero, slighted by the god Poseidon, commanded his centurions to throw their spears into the sea.
Starting point is 02:10:08 Into the water. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. The only way to defeat him. I mean, god, like, if you want to just, like, this, we're trying, like, every once in a while you get the update of, like, oh, Nintendo's lawyers, what are they up to? And then you see this and you're like, oh, like they still don't know where they are or what's exactly happening around them.
Starting point is 02:10:30 It's like an old, like literal, just blind dinosaur old man trying to feel its way through this complicated world. Someone might have shown them a thick piece of bauzette art them a thick piece of Bowsette art and the heart rate might have jumped up a little bit and then we need to do something about this. Let's start trying to take down all of the lewd Nintendo art on the internet. And if you're their lawyers, right, here's the thing. If you're like a young up and coming partner at a given firm that has been, what's the word when you lock down a law firm for, anyway, a retainer. When you get a retainer and you're working for them, and you hear them say something like what? Our characters are being depicted in a mature manner?
Starting point is 02:11:28 This isn't kosher for children. We need to hide that, we need to take that down. You're like, oh, I'll get on it right away, because you're gonna be working from now till the end of time. Like there are infinity- Fuck, I'm so excited about this. I can, oh man.
Starting point is 02:11:42 There are infinity cease and desists that you can send out Infinity useless things and you're gonna get paid for all of it. So you have no problem whatsoever So it's fun, I don't know if you have this on the docket even though we I know we both responded to it on social media This actually ties in great with a different story that happened this week where clueless idiot Luke Plunkett was interviewing, that's Av Kotaku, was interviewing a former Pokemon Company lawyer and asked the question. So how do you find all this copyright infringement in these fan games? And the lawyer just goes, Oh, you guys, I would just like I would just
Starting point is 02:12:31 read Kotaku or somebody would send me a link to a Kotaku article and it would be right there and we would just send out the fucking cease and desist. Thanks for the for the end. Luke has the audacity to go. Oh, no. I had no idea. Oh fucking oh, no Don't believe that for a second. You're an adult man You are faking it you are faking it to avoid guilt What more can I say? What more can I do what like I did this all for you? I? really really try
Starting point is 02:13:04 I did this all for you. I really really tried For years later this shit to come back around in that particular manner very candid to just oh, yeah No, every time you report actually. Thank you every time. Yeah, it's you. It's you guys And like that I mean there had been I had been yelling about that prior to making that video for years before as well Like it hit up and I had been standing there agreeing with you It had been it had been happening so it had happened so many times that I'm like fuck this I need to do I need to literally make a thing to put in time That to point back to and in that thing at the time there is the scrolling list of Casualties that occur at the time because yeah
Starting point is 02:13:46 Guess what every single time one of these articles goes up. That's all it is. It is a it is it is Oh, it's dead. Oh what happened it is the It is the fucking laser pointer in Starcraft pointing at your base before nuclear launch detected Like that's that's literally all you're doing is is you're just pointing the laser over there, guys. Nintendo, drop the bombardment over there. So, yeah, that was a fucking hilarious update to that story, I suppose. You know, which, yeah, which garnered heat at the time, especially
Starting point is 02:14:25 as well, which was like, anyway. So like, I'm going to pull a random factoid out here. And it's like, one of the single most repugnant human emotion to others has been tested again and again, and it's insincerity. Right? So like when people are like openly insincere, it's just repellent to almost everyone as a personality type. So strong, right? And this fucking fake ignorance of, oh my God, was it really us is just repugnant. You're reading it. It's just so fucking gross.
Starting point is 02:15:15 You're reading it in text format. And so with the text format, you're even getting the edited italicization of the O. Oh no. Right? It's a moment in a screenplay that's being read out. The edited italicization of the oh oh no Right it's it's a moment in a screenplay. That's that's being read out There's not not you know like yeah, yeah, it's That's a that's a particular fun one anyways shoutouts to link awakening links awakening DX HD the fan project that showed up dropped and fucking ghosted. I
Starting point is 02:15:48 Definitely don't have it on this computer right now Shout outs to that. I would never just Hey, what was the word the fuck did that? Damn what was that? That's the whole it's links awakening DX port at the PC. That's crazy, man. Wow nuts On it's like a way better port than the $60 Switch game they put out because it doesn't have fucked up frame rate shit. Oh, wow I mean, I don't know that I just somebody told me I didn't play it because I've never downloaded it. I would never Don't make me tap the sign. Nope, I'm gonna be tapping the sign forever.
Starting point is 02:16:25 That's okay. Like, there's even like a denim to your sign, which is like, don't tell nobody, but sometimes you need staff. So it's like, at least don't talk to a reporter. How about that? How about that, huh? At the very least.
Starting point is 02:16:43 I really tried to come at it from as many angles as possible. Good stuff. Good stuff. Thank you, Nintendo lawyers. That has been your Dinosaur News update. I can't believe how fucking stupid I am that you said, Pat, I have Dinosaur News and thought you were going to tell me about some new kind of T-Rex. I can't believe it. Dinosaur news and thought you were gonna tell me about some new kind of t-rex
Starting point is 02:17:10 Okay, well I can tell you about a new kind of t-rex if that's what you want to hear Okay The the new kind of t-rex over in pal world is making so much money that they don't know what to do with it Have they actually said we literally don't know what to do with it? The boss of PAL World Develop Pair, Pocket Pair, says the game, the hit game costs less than a billion yen, so 6.7 million, and has generated more than 10 times that amount and the massive profits are so large that the small studio of 55 people cannot handle it. This amount is too big for a studio of our size to handle. He has no intention of expanding or offering shares. He wants the company to remain small. He's open to partnership or acquisition, but hasn't yet started talking
Starting point is 02:18:01 to anybody. But they're talking about bringing it to more platforms and pretty much that's all they're looking at right now. But they don't know what to do with the money that Power World is making. Ah, just making too much money! Ah! Ah! Ah!
Starting point is 02:18:18 Ah! Ah! Ah! Ah! Ah! Ah! Ah! Ah! Ah! Ah! The Power of flow!
Starting point is 02:18:32 it's really nice. what is so nice? fuck it! I ate the ops! and the ops? we don't know what to do with this money. every time he's talking about the ops he's talking about the Pokemon company Shit god damn
Starting point is 02:18:57 We slowly lighting up that Snorlax pack I'll give a shit Fuck man, that's exactly it. That's exactly don't know what to do with it how world is making too much, buddy I let the archangels take the Pokemon company It's incredible, oh, that's my favorite bit Yeah, yeah, yeah damn Yeah, yeah, yeah Damn
Starting point is 02:19:52 We got those that legendary pack man, that's what we're that's what we're on all right It's good for them good for them good for them. You know That's that's what you want to hear in this time. They'll I'm sure they'll figure out what to do with it. They'll probably staff up and leave some maintenance people on Power World while they work on some new game. But don't staff up too much. Who was it recently? There was a, I forget what company it was, but they were doing, oh, it was Helldivers. company it was, but they were doing... Oh, it was Helldivers! The Helldivers devs, I think they were asked about, do you have any plans with the massive success of Helldivers
Starting point is 02:20:34 2? Is there any plans to increase staff and make Helldivers 2 even bigger and better? And they were like, no. Massively increasing increasing staff just you can fire those people later is stupid how about that stupid how about not expanding for no reason how about that yeah I mean like I'm sure I don't know if you've been following the Helldivers news, but I have Joel is Fucking with people. Oh, yeah, he is. Oh Joel is an evil motherfucker. I Tell you I tell you about the flying bugs and the snipers No
Starting point is 02:21:18 Okay, so this is all this so fucking great. This is so fucking good. Okay, so The robot the the the the Patriot Exosuits come down, right? Everybody's got their fucking nice Patriot Exosuits, right? And then Chargers, which are an armored type of bug, put out a patchstone and a lot of this and they're gonna be easier to kill. And we've we've we have fixed the distribution. So there aren't gonna be as many spawns of Chargers all at once, which is hard to deal with. Right? It's like, hooray! Hooray!
Starting point is 02:21:46 We got the suits and now the bugs have been reorganized so they're not as annoying to deal with. And then, like, a couple of guys put up footage of like, there are just flying bugs in the game now attacking me right now. Here is a video of me being attacked by flying bugs in the game now attacking me right now. Here is a video of me being attacked by flying bugs, but it's only like sometimes, like it's very rare. And they post the video and the CEO is like, I find it offensive.
Starting point is 02:22:14 The idea that any bug could fly. This is obviously bug propaganda. And they're like gas lighting the shit out of people. And people are pointing out that there are flying bugs on the game's poster. And the CEO and the community team were like, that's obviously a misprint. That could be anything.
Starting point is 02:22:35 That shouldn't happen. That's a bug. Yeah. But on top of that, people are putting up footage of strange blue lights in the sky that don't seem to be coming from anywhere and Being hit with blue laser sniper rounds from nowhere on certain maps that don't
Starting point is 02:22:54 That don't fit any existing enemy and they're like what the fuck is going on and it's it they are They are seeding like is going on and it's, they are, they are seeding like UFO attacks by the illuminate in random games. So, okay, I didn't put, like, I didn't put it on the docket last time, but I saw a story relating to Helldivers that was, we hired a DM for the narrative of this game. Yeah, that's Joel. Okay, and essentially there's a lore game master that is changing and affecting things throughout a given season online for people. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:23:32 Okay, so there's a lot of- So they recently fixed the tracker that shows how many people are in what sector, and some guy caught it at a completely uncontested sector of the map that we've never been to, there was one Helldiver operating a few days ago. Whoa. And it's like, it's Joel!
Starting point is 02:23:58 Joel's over there! He's doing some shit. He's laying down traps and setting up illuminate and making flying bugs and shit! What you up to over there? Nice, yeah, yeah. Doing some shit Nice yeah That's fun. Oh, there's so much um what's going on with this this family share? thing okay, so Steam game library sharing is cool But it always had a couple of. The main issue is that I would give, let's say, Paige, I'd be like, Paige, you have
Starting point is 02:24:30 access to my steam account. And that'd be great, except I'd be over here, I'd be streaming, you know, Like a Dragon, Infinite Wealth, and Paige would go to play something that would be part of my steam account, and it would go, hey, the owner of the steam account is playing Like a Dragon, Infinite Wealth. Do you want to kick them from their session? and it would go, hey, the owner of the Steam account is playing like a dragon infinite wealth. Do you want to kick them from their session? And she would go, no. So you'd have to do offline mode
Starting point is 02:24:52 and be a whole fucking thing, blah, blah, blah. So today, this morning, as part of the Steam client beta, Family Share is here, and Family Share has two parts. Part one is that you can turn your regular ass Steam account into family mode. In family mode, you have the option to disable the store. You have the option to disable all social functions, profile, et cetera, and then you can limit
Starting point is 02:25:20 specific games in the library. So if you wanna just family mode your Steam account for your child or person in your house, you can do so. And you can just get out of it with a quick pin, like do, do, do, do, do, do, do. Simple. Or what you can do is you can make a new Steam account and you can add that to your family plan and you can make that an adult or a child account. Adult is a normal account but just shares all your
Starting point is 02:25:49 games and the difference here is as long as you're not playing the same game they can use your Steam account as you will. That's fucking great. So I could be over here playing Dragon's Dogma 2 and Paige could start a fucking file on Infinite Wealth that is coming off of my account And it would be completely fine. It's like congratulations this simple and easy thing has now allowed the Well, basically the ability if you lived in a house with someone that has a physical cartridge. It's like oh yeah here you go Thanks, and they're like listen you can play multiplayer, you both have to own a copy.
Starting point is 02:26:26 And you know what? That makes perfect sense. There's no, right. OK, fine. But otherwise, yeah. So following up, I made a dummy account to test this. So I made a dummy account that has nothing on it. And I said, I am going to pretend to be the child.
Starting point is 02:26:43 I'm going to be Pat Jr.'s Steam I'm gonna be Pat Jr's Steam account. And I added that account to my family share as a child account. So the child account still has access to the Steam library, but you can limit what games, right, that are being transferred. If you don't put any money, you don't put a PayPal or any credit card thing in there,
Starting point is 02:27:10 it'll have no way to buy games other than a button on the fucking cart that says request. And when you hit that request button, it goes to the the primary account and it goes This account has requested this purchase of this game. There you go There you go, and you can hit your button and it'll go through your payment to do it. But here's the best part. I Hit request and then I cancelled the quest but on my primary account you go into requests and it goes This account requested this game at such and such a time X a minute X minutes ago
Starting point is 02:27:51 X has cancelled this request X minutes ago And then you go one tab over and it gives you the playtime for every single game they use on that account There you go parental. Yeah, just you got guys so if I'm if I if I somehow that kid gets? Fucking orc massage on their steam account Right and is playing orc massage in private and like ah too bad shithead the parental controls Showed me what time of day and for how many minutes you played orc massage also in addition to that, the concept of the the rolling legacy Steam account can now move forward into the future, where Great Grandpa had thousands of games and that has now become a Dragon's treasure trove,
Starting point is 02:28:43 providing that Steam continues to be a thing. So you have your account plus five others that you can add into your family plan. So like I'm just saying. That's crazy. If you have a bunch of Steam games and your friends are poor, you can just say, We're family.
Starting point is 02:29:08 Yeah, we're a family. Like, they don't fucking ask you for your birth certificate. I wonder if at that point, if it takes multiple copies into account, like if two people are a family but they both bought this game, do you now have individual copies that, yeah, yeah because you both bought it you should be able to both boot it if it stops you that'd be wrong so I don't like the fact that I look down and saw the phrase steam polycule hey man you don't you don't you don't get to decide what happens in anyone's bedroom or their Steam account. Anyway so library sharing was always kind of annoying. At the base level this has turned library sharing into what it kind of always should
Starting point is 02:29:58 have been. Which is totally painless. Totally painless. It's in beta, It's already working perfectly. I tested it across two computers and various accounts. It's great. Digital game ownership should be 100% parallel to physical. There should be nothing about it that can backfire and bite you in the ass.
Starting point is 02:30:21 If your account or if your ability to log in is gone or whatever, you should still be able to have a copy of that game local that you can still preserve into the future that you can play regardless. If the internet goes down, you should be able to have that. You should be able to let someone else play or hand it to a friend. It should be the same as having a cartridge in every single way. Now, I'm going to tell you this right now. This is really important. The publisher or developer have the ability to turn this feature off.
Starting point is 02:30:52 Ah. So if you would like to hear what games aren't available for the system, I have that list right here, because it actually shows you in the tab which games have been disabled. Let me guess, let me fucking guess. Bandai Namco.
Starting point is 02:31:05 Everything Ubisoft. Every single thing Ubisoft is. Everything Ubisoft. Of course it is. So okay, we got Ace Combat, Assault Horizon, Assassin's Creed, Assassin's Creed, Assassin's Creed, Fall Guys, Far Cry, For Honor, Grand Theft Auto. The whole thing. It takes two.
Starting point is 02:31:21 Kingdom Come Deliverance, L.A. Noire. Everything EA. Last Epoch, Lost in Random, Mass Effect, Mass Effect, Pungy, Red Dead 2, Resident Evil 0, Resident Evil Operation Raccoon City, both Jedi games, Temtem, User-friendly get the fuck out of here You know what I love about these types of moments. It's kind of like when Titanfall 2 Rainbow six siege trials evolution So this is like when lab zero went hey everybody we made Libraries to allow any current gen system to use old arcade sticks and current gen system to use old arcade sticks and everyone can use it and it's free here you go if your favorite fighting game does not allow you to use your currently owned old last gen stick it's because they don't want you to so
Starting point is 02:32:16 like that's it here's where it gets really fun so all the ones that don't work is because of external launchers because they have to go to their other fucking bullshit accounts. Of course. You play... And the Capcom games is super weird because Capcom has a million fucking games. And it's only Resident Evil Zero and Operation Raccoon City. Like Dragon's Dogma 1 is shareable! There and it's fine, huh? Yeah.
Starting point is 02:32:39 Okay. This system is fucking awesome for everyone. And I was just thinking about how like, hey, you know what's awesome? How I use Steam and I choose to use Steam and Steam will just give me a fucking gift of an amazing feature at random. They don't even fucking announce these things that they're coming. There's like family sharing. Yeah, share all your shit forever. PC game sharing is now as easy or easier
Starting point is 02:33:05 than physical game sharing. Mm-hmm. Because yeah, I've been, for a while, Punch Mom was just playing games off of my account, and then she started playing enough that I was like, okay, well, let's set up yours so we can play stuff together, and obviously give them gifts. They go to the trouble in the FAQ,
Starting point is 02:33:23 or F-A-Q, I don't know why I say Be like by the way, if you're borrowing a game from Steam Family Share, don't worry You'll make your own save games on your own account. Great. Great. Great. Great. Yes. Yes, of course Yeah, so if you choose to buy that game in the future just Keep going. No problem It's great. Hey, I gotta take a quick break the orbit Hey, I love letters. Do you want, hey, if you wanna send in a letter, send it into castlesuperbeastmail.gmail.com. That's castlesuperbeastmail.gmail.com. I had a bit of a trouble there. I had a bit of a trouble. Got one coming in from
Starting point is 02:34:06 Dylan From Vancouver Dylan says hey Pat and wooly What are some of the things in media that were either overemphasized or tricked you into thinking that they'd be much more? Common than they were in real life For example people in quicksand being stuck For example, people in quicksand being stuck is a common occurrence or hanging out at a mall 24-7 like Mall Rats or 16. Okay, hold on. That's a really good example because when Mall Rats was made, that was real. That was what people totally did all the time.
Starting point is 02:34:44 I have friends that as soon as school was done The first thing they do is get on the bus go right down the street to the mall and chill there till at least 9 10 p.m. And then go home That's a that's a historical anachronism Mm-hmm Quicksand definitely became a big trope probably because of like one movie I feel like maybe like I imagine being like some kind of like old Jungle Book or some kind of movie from the 70s or older.
Starting point is 02:35:14 Most have had that and then put the idea out there. I feel like I was tricked by, I feel like I was tricked by, I was tricked by cartoons and children's TV into thinking that Brussels sprouts were disgusting, when in fact they're fucking delicious, especially when they're grilled. Brussels. You know, there's actually a story behind that, Willie. Is it because as an adult,
Starting point is 02:35:41 your bitter sensors are more pronounced, and as a kid, you taste sweet better? So that's one of them But the actual reality is that Brussels sprouts when we were kid Kids were disgusting So you ate them as a child Yeah, it would taste like shit Okay, and their terrible taste caused the Brussels sprouts industry to breed them to not taste
Starting point is 02:36:06 like shit. Okay. And then the next time you had them as an adult, they were completely different. And we GMO'd them. And you're like, these are great. I don't know why I ever hated them as a kid. Because they were bad when you were a kid. Okay.
Starting point is 02:36:19 We GMO'd them into tasting good. That makes sense. That makes sense. Okay. Yeah. I think I think I this is ringing a bell I feel like I have I have already learned this damn that's crazy I mean bananas I have obviously we've talked many times about how bananas there was a giant fucking plague that wiped out all the bananas except for the dole one so
Starting point is 02:36:40 that's what that that's the only banana we have now, but people remember many back in the day So I remember My dad on a Sunday afternoon in 1992 Allowed me to watch a cool sci-fi movie featuring Martin Short and Dennis Quaid called inner space that was released in 1987 by Steven Spielberg. This movie was not appropriate for Pat. It was very, very intense and convinced me as a child in 92 that there is always a possibility that someone could run up on you in the mall and stab you with a fucking syringe and you don't know what's in it.
Starting point is 02:37:30 Oh god damn it, that's where it came from. And I cannot even tell you how badly it- Oh I know the damage. You met the version of me as an adult that was terrified of being stabbed with the syringe You can't even imagine how fucking terrified I was of being stabbed with a syringe as a fucking seven or eight year old That's where it came from That's crazy and you can watch the fucking scene. I'm talking about in inner space. It's a scientist He's running through the mall
Starting point is 02:38:01 He's all disheveled and Martin shorts just standing on an escalator and he falls he goes ah and just stabs him in the back of the leg he didn't even see him he didn't even see him stabbed in the syringe Christ man yeah okay so cuz I remember when the internet like that that me like lore about like oh there's like AIDS needles that people are putting in cinema seats and Some guy sat down and he got pricked and then there was a sticker that said welcome to the world of AIDS and Yeah, that's not real Waste their needle But like that was one of those stupid emails that went around in early internet days and like yeah
Starting point is 02:38:46 And friend you kind of are like oh next time I go to a theater I'm gonna check the seats real thoroughly and then like literally like for what like a couple weeks later It's like okay. This is horseshit that that fucking was nonsense. You know the Halloween candy Yeah, we talked about that for sure. Yeah is great. That's a good one Mm-hmm that was actually real except it was the parent that was deliberately hurting You know most Halloween candy things are the parents trying to figure out a way to kill their kids without getting caught But that's syringe shit. Yeah, that's a fucking canon event man like nothing like life goes on that never fucking occurs except for I guess that one time when
Starting point is 02:39:28 Kim Jong-un's brother in an airport just got fucking assassinated in broad daylight. Yeah. I think that was a random syringing that just like ran up and did. Hey, listen, the chance of you being stabbed with a mystery syringe are low But never zero and I did see a detailed like close-up on like what a Particular one that has been used many times looks like and that is like That is the Marne's leg territory like that shit You fucking said earlier like go looking up close at at what one of those looks like after multiple uses.
Starting point is 02:40:06 It's horrendous. So yeah, okay. That's where that came from. So. God damn. I don't know if you ever ran into it in Yakuza 0. But in Yakuza 0, there is a heat action. Where in public park number three, I think it is, there is a syringe on the ground.
Starting point is 02:40:23 And you can use the heat action essence of mysterious syringe. Oh no. Oh, that's horrible. Like, here's the thing. I remember it so vividly because I was just like, oh! Oh! Oh!
Starting point is 02:40:40 Oh! No! Like, the thing about your irrational fear is that the real version of that is as horrible Oh, no! Like, the thing about your irrational fear is that the real version of that is as horrifying as you do feel it is. Like, it is that bad. It's just the likelihood is absurd.
Starting point is 02:40:54 The likelihood is absurd. But if it were to actually start occurring, that is the correct response. Like, yeah. Okay. I don yeah. Okay. I don't like it. All right, got one coming in here. Dear hoarders of early access saves.
Starting point is 02:41:15 Over the years, I've noticed that loading up a save and trying to remember who characters are or how a game works bothers me more than the idea of throwing away progress and starting a fresh playthrough. For example, I feel like I may as well start a new save when I go back to P5 Royale, which is I feel is reasonable due to the heavy plot character focus. However, when I replayed Monster Hunter World from the tutorial instead of loading my base game save when I picked up Iceborne, which I've been told is weird.
Starting point is 02:41:45 In the most extreme example, I started fresh saves on roguelites before, even if the game barely had any progression. Do you consider this a problem and do you have tricks to relearn skills that you haven't used in a while to overcome the feeling of being lost? I mean, it depends. It depends on how in depth the game's actual systems are and it depends on how far away you are from them Like Monster Hunter's basic general Through line is gonna be the same the whole way through it's just gonna be level of difficulty
Starting point is 02:42:14 so yeah, you could have just dove back into like high rank and and just you know figured it out from there for persona 5 You think you want to start over and then you get to the two hour mark and you're like, when are you going to let me fucking play the game please? And then you're like, I shouldn't fucking start it. Games like that exactly have a problem. The problem that those games have is a problem that a lot of, honestly, the viewers have as well, which is your brain deletes a lot of the downtime out of your favorite games. So when you're watching them be played or let's played you forget about how long that fucking downtime section You know what's funny?
Starting point is 02:42:55 So we've been talking about Dragon's Dogma a lot and obviously we're only talking about Dragon's Dogma 1 the only one we know about But in Dragon's Dogma, there's a lot of downtime the only one we know about. But in Dragon's Dogma, there's a lot of downtime. And you don't forget that downtime, because that downtime is like, it's like part of it. It's like core. Okay. Right? So like when you're like,
Starting point is 02:43:18 should I restart Dark Arisen? And you're like, well where are you at? It's like, well I got to the city and you know, I'm exploring around. It's like, yeah, you should like, well, where are you at? It's like, well, I got to the city and I'm exploring around. It's like, you should not restart it, because the worm hunt stuff actually takes like a weirdly long time. But in addition to that like rose-colored,
Starting point is 02:43:36 like filler deleting memory of just highlighted cool moments in someone's brain with like, oh, yeah, go ahead, restart. It's not that bad. There's also me who I've had too many, if you want to talk about canon events, moments in someone's brain with like, oh yeah, go ahead, restart, it's not that bad. There's also me who I've had too many, if you want to talk about canon events, I've had too many lost save data canon events that have affected me so that I have a stronger than average aversion to losing progress. The feeling of losing progress in games in particular makes me extremely upset because of what happened to me
Starting point is 02:44:07 with FF7 and with Mugen back in the day. So I will do everything I can to completely avoid that. And in most cases, if I ever feel like I have too much rust or forget what was going on, that's where if I've been let's playing it, for example, I can go back and watch the footage, right? That's great. Or watch someone else's even.
Starting point is 02:44:30 I honestly feel like, for refreshing on things, because there's times where just getting the story beats for a game like Yakuza is not enough. Getting the story beats helps, but little things like, how do you fight Mr. Shakedown again? I forgot, I figured this out and I forget the specifics of it. Hit him in the ass, right? What was the strategy for you know playing darts or whatever? It was like yeah
Starting point is 02:44:50 This is where a let's play like legitimately is super handy to just jump around to those places and see it played out again I I will if it depends like yeah, if it's a matter of like a few hours or you know, not that big a deal It's fine, but anything kind of significant and I'm I'm just gonna fucking Go catch back up elsewhere and resume As I've gotten older When I was younger and I had all the time in the fucking world I would just restart every time I you know, I I was halfway through. I don't care. Oh, back then. Yeah, sure. There are games that I restarted from
Starting point is 02:45:27 the fucking turns out the 85 90% that I didn't realize I was back in the end. Whatever. Yeah, your kid you have all the time in the world. But as I've gotten older, I've tried to not do that as much because it's so time intensive. it's not as bad as you think it's gonna be. That inertia, that inertial like 30 minutes of, how do these items go to, my moves? Like yeah, you get over like a half hour 45 minute period, ah, you're back in with it, you're fine. I mean I also think part of the bit with me
Starting point is 02:46:03 being not much of a restarter is also because I'm not much of a Replayer either you know like I have I have that too is as a Particular quirk so now luckily Luckily you're getting into dragons dogma now, which is a big replayer That's a good game for replaying Dark Risen very good game for replaying well I know three ways you can play that game! Well, when replaying is part of the point and the core, then it's fantastic.
Starting point is 02:46:30 Replaying in Zero Escape or Nier is, yeah, that's part of the actual single narrative. So I don't consider that the same thing. No, I don't even mean that. I just mean that Dark Risen has three dramatically different ways you can play that game. Oh, like in class and storyline? Like they put that bitter black aisle in there.
Starting point is 02:46:47 And you, no, not even storyline. Just like, hey, fuck the entire game. I'm just gonna go to that super dungeon, bitter black aisle, and I'm just gonna make it work. Just fucking, you just start a new game in Dark Risen and go, fuck all of that. I'm gonna go to the expansion zone for high level characters. and because of the way
Starting point is 02:47:05 the math works on experience, you will just, you'll fucking catch up, like, in 40 minutes. But then once you're done, you'll be able to do that right away. But then once you're done, you go back to the regular missions, right? Yeah, and then you just fucking crush that shit, like it's nothing. Okay.
Starting point is 02:47:22 Crush that shit like it's nothing okay All right, let's take one over here from Ian says hey mental stack and mine goblin. That's pretty good. Oh, yeah Been really that is your your your brain aneurysm like nickname Yeah Recently been collecting all the work from my favorite mangaka Q hi ashita and just got her first publication, which is a manga adaptation of the dreamcast game Mackin X Jesus Christ Mac
Starting point is 02:48:02 It's an atlas game with art, yeah. Macken X is like, yeah, that old Kineco Dreamcast first person sword game. You wanna talk about a deep fucking pull? That, like, I don't know anything else about it except for- It's an old adaptation, right? Yeah, super old.
Starting point is 02:48:22 And you sword and you, again, Kaneko characters doing that weird shit. Boy, what a, yeah, okay. It's a, yeah, with the art from SMT artist Kazuma Kaneko. And what's funny about this is that Hayashida's art couldn't be more the opposite from Kaneko's sleek and clean style. It's very dirty and grungy. But that being said, she kills it. be more the opposite from Kaneko's sleek and clean style. It's very dirty and grungy. But that being said, she kills it.
Starting point is 02:48:47 What's your favorite example of an artist translating another's work into their own disparate style? Oh, that's tough. There's, yeah, there's things where you see the art style change and it still stays good are so rare because right off the bat, I think of how Castlevania went from that amazing Kojima painting artwork into the anime style that it was for mass appeal,
Starting point is 02:49:16 so I get it, but you lose so much of that fucking painterly goodness, and then even adapting it into 3D, it barely held up. Kojima was too good for the games to fucking do justice to her art. But yeah, something that manages to switch it up. I mean, there's always a really fun picture of Araki drawing Naruto. Other artists characters. Yeah Araki drawing Naruto is pretty fun. It's a whole different flavor of character. I liked so Nakayama was the artist that did Mega Man Zero
Starting point is 02:50:09 The Mega Man Zero art style is a really cool completely fresh take on The Mega Man design style, but like it made a distinct thing and now you can't fucking mistake it for anything else So that's a particularly good one. I think I have like the shittiest possible answer It's what just jumped into my fucking brain and I can't help it I can't turn it off and it's just, do you remember when Hideaki Itsuno said, Hey, what if we made a Skyrim game, but it had good combat and was fun to play and we called the dragons dogma. Oh, that was great. I love when they did that! It's less of an art style thing and more of a concept thing, but sure, yeah. And yeah, no, on the Mega Man Zero bit, valid criticisms that they do look like little diaper babies with their big elf eyes. They do. But it's cool. It's a distinct thing that works.
Starting point is 02:51:09 eyes. They do. But it's cool. It's a distinct thing that works. And this is, I guess, in a weird way, you know, you could technically argue Street Fighter 6 when we first saw those realistic characters were like, oh, there goes the ackee man exaggerated art style in favor of something more realistic. And I guess that'll be the look from now on. But it's, especially with the new costumes and the way they're doing it, Street Fighter 6 looks pretty good. You know, it looks pretty cool. I think we've warmed up to it quite a bit, though it clearly has left behind the exaggeration.
Starting point is 02:51:38 You know? Yeah. I've got another one. Okay. So, Yeah. I've got another one. So I don't know who the original artists... So George Kamatami always takes inspiration from a very specific series of art back in the second edition of D&D. That hyper, hyper masculine warrior kind of shit.
Starting point is 02:52:06 Louis Royaux, Vaccaro ass. I'm not super familiar with the old artist name, but I know George Kamatami takes a lot of inspiration from that. I am stalling for time so that somebody in the chat says, Frank Frazetta. Sure, yeah, Frazetta is a big one too. Yeah, Frazetta, Royo.
Starting point is 02:52:25 Frank Frazetta was like the face of D&D for a long time. And I was a really big fan when Daigo Ikeno, a very famous Capcom artist, looked at Frank Frazetta's art of a dragon and was like, but what if it was fucking super evil and it talked and it was in Dragon's dogma And it looked like the coolest dragon ever Instead of just being a generic red dragon So yeah, so dragon's dogma that Like I like the way the dragon looks in that dragon. Did a good job.
Starting point is 02:53:06 Yeah, looks cool. There you go. Okay. All right, that'll do. The squirt's trying to stop me. Listen to the MP3. You'll hear what I had to say. That's fine.
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Starting point is 02:53:22 I got to get back to making too much money. I got to get back to making too much money. I got to get back to making too much money. I got to get back to making too much money. I got to get back to making too much money. I got to get back to making too much money.. I gotta get back to making too much money. I gotta... We smoking those... Good luck with that, buddy. We smoking those ghost poison type mega evolution Gengar Ruts. Pokemon Company forgot that I'm him!

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