Castle Super Beast - CSB 268: Knuck-ees If You Buc-ee's

Episode Date: May 8, 2024

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Starting point is 00:00:00 ["Sailor Moon Theme"] Oh Slow news day. Yeah slow news day slow news day, you know We're starting to podcast. It's I don't know like 12 10 p.m Pacific for me on the west coast is a Tuesday and I'm thinking like maybe we could wrap this up and like Our like 120 minutes hour and a half and we'll be out. That's about all we need Not much not much going on. So I'm not too worried about well, so because it's a slow news day I think that's that's actually why I would be like, well, hey, we can just, I'll start with this. To pimp a butterfly, that's where I think you should start.
Starting point is 00:01:12 That's a good place to start. I think before we continue this conversation, I think we should do a cursory courtesy for audio listeners who are not currently familiar with URI. Wooly? Hi. So, my name is Pat. I am a white man. I need you to keep that in the back of your head throughout the whole rest of this conversation.
Starting point is 00:01:39 My name is Wooly. I am not. All right Moving on right. I don't particularly follow or listen to music. This is an important detail For the ensuing 20 to 40 minutes of conversation who knows so take the floor no To pimp a butterfly is where I think you should start your your. Oh, that's what you mean. I see. Yes. There's a lot of debate about what
Starting point is 00:02:07 the right place to jump in is. This is not video games or manga. I mean, it is, and it really is in a lot of ways. But at the same time, you can jump in on different albums to catch different feelings. If you're thinking about diving in to find out what KDOT is all about, I think. I was a recommended good kid, Mad City.
Starting point is 00:02:27 Yes, that's a really, really, that's the second strongest place you could start to. It goes back and forth, but the thing is, is that what you're gonna get from people with this is a really like tailor-made based on their, tailor-made, based on their tastes, right? And like what people kinda like and resonate with the most and what you look for in hip-hop Kind of is gonna affect what you're you what you're gonna prefer, right? So, um, the thing is is that
Starting point is 00:02:53 You though here, you know what I prefer. I prefer hatred. Yeah, right. That's the thing. So like Kendrick storytelling is What early Kendrick is is a lot of that is jazz. It is abstract art rap and it is storytelling and Good Kid Mad City is a narrative. It is an awesome album that is telling you the story about him and going to see his girl and the shit that goes off when you grow up gang affiliated. But the later albums get into other conceptual stuff. I think the Pimp a Butterfly is a really nice way to introduce what's going on.
Starting point is 00:03:35 It's got that anger, it's got that strength, it's got a lot of messaging to it, and it hits pretty fucking hard because as it's been described, he raps like he's trying to free the slaves right so when it comes to that type of descriptor you get a lot of that and you get a good introduction to like him at his best i think it just fucking you know it stands out there really strongly i think in my opinion but hatred cranks up quite a good bit in the next album right after that, damn, right? All caps, period. There's a lot of anger that comes out of him. It's a little less storytelling
Starting point is 00:04:14 and a little more of that ferocity. So you can catch that. But I guess the question is, is there any part of you that is curious about the narrative or the music or any part of like what, what you're, you know, because there's a lot, there's a lot to unpack with this dude. So, you know.
Starting point is 00:04:36 But there's a reason why I brought him up a while back as like one of the fucking new quote unquote new at the time, you know people to follow so I Need to apologize because I actually spoke about this a little bit ago on like a stream on last Tuesday I think it was And somebody asked me last Tuesday Which was at a very specific point in time, hey Pat, have you seen anything about
Starting point is 00:05:06 this Kendrick and Drake beef? To which I said, I had seen that that was occurring, but I hadn't heard any of the songs. And I said, I don't understand why anyone would expect me to care about two grown men like poetry fighting in the street. Right? It's just a bunch of dudes just be like, no, you're stupid. No, you're dumb. Ah, whatever. Who cares? Well, apparently TikTok on my phone heard that. And later, I think that night or the night next, scrolling, dog videos, a lot of dog videos, and then all of a sudden I get to the verse in Euphoria that just activated my third eye, which is, I hate the way that you walk, I hate the way that you talk, I hate the way that you dress, and what I felt
Starting point is 00:06:02 in my chest was that's real hate. Yeah. That's real hate. Shout out to DMX who brought that shit to the forefront. Absolutely. There's a clip of him on the Breakfast Club a while ago with that. So a lot of the time, there's these legendary beefs
Starting point is 00:06:20 that happen in a rapid, like you go back to, you know, obviously Biggie and Pac, right? It was like the one of the the fucking the prodigious. And then you get, you know, Jay-Z and Nas over the years, which like elicits the term ether when you're describing when someone gets fucking cooked into oblivion, you know, but like, there's this thing to it where, like, sometimes it's just this like, there's always a point where you hit those where they get to their kind of pop off points of like, holy shit, did you just here hit them up? I cannot believe what the fuck he just said. Opening Salvo, so I fucked your bitch you fat motherfucker. First off, fucked your bitch in the click you claim. West side,
Starting point is 00:07:00 just goes in, my full form, make sure all your kids don't grow. And you're like, that's Matt, I can't believe, what the fuck are we doing, right? But then you kind of get to things where you have you have like Eminem just like just Pancing machine gun Kelly, you know in like modern years that like reached out to me over the the collective unconscious and I saw it and I was like... Why are we letting a man fight a child? And it's just, you know, and like again, it's just so embarrassing that like by the end
Starting point is 00:07:36 of it, you know, MGK switches genres. He just leaves rap, right? Oh, I didn't know that was the end of that! That's embarrassing as fuck The new like poppy kind of like sing-songy version of the character that is machine gun Kelly exists because he left rap He pees the fuck out, you know, so yeah, that shit is exactly that like fucking Frederick Tatum Homer shit, you know So when you hear and like I mean Reggie could briefly talked Homer shit, you know? So when you hear, and like, me and Reggie
Starting point is 00:08:06 could briefly talked about this, you know, but it's like, when you hear that Kendrick Lamar and Drake have beef, and like, it's escalating to like a battle, it's like, the only analogy I can think of for how absurd that is, is that's like if Kendrick Lamar and Drake had beef. It's so insane. I love, because I don't listen to either of these guys' music, but I have heard, ironically enough, I heard a remix that Triple Q did of one of Kendrick Lamar's songs that I really like the beat on it but regardless Drake's the image I have
Starting point is 00:08:52 of Drake for literally my entire life is that promo image of him laughing in the wheelchair on the grass. Uh-huh yep yep that like I nothing like so like if I see him on a TV or something it doesn't it doesn't move that off So that adds primary. I'm one step to removed from that. It's for me. It's the sticker of his face Stuck on the wheelchair like handicapped parking sign and they put his face on the little head for a dot and he's like Ah and that in Toronto has been the thing because yes, that's where he comes from, you know? And I mean, holy shit, man. So just that level of like, yeah, this is crazy. I'm not even paying attention because who the, what the
Starting point is 00:09:36 fuck are we talking about here? You know? How mean could this beef possibly be? Oh, and then, you know, and you know, went on to just talk about other random boomer rap takes only To fucking travel to the states and then in the middle of that time Just just see what the fuck this escalates to and it hits that point of oh my god It's broken through like it's broken through culture. This is getting it is bro. Every every single person I know that knows anything about media including many people who I know did not listen To rap music just all of a sudden be like are you hearing what he is saying? Reaches escape velocity right and the reason why is not just because of the names involved but also
Starting point is 00:10:18 By this point usually someone's dead That is I was talking about that. The usual trajectory for this level of Venom is a gunfight. Yeah, like the level, like there's a saying, you know, there's a saying, keep it on the wax. You know, that's been the thing. Just like, yo, keep it on the records, keep it on the vinyl, whatever it escalates to, to make it, you know, drop your next shit on your track. Don't take it to real life, you know? But fucking, that's the point you kind of expect, right?
Starting point is 00:10:50 So yeah, obviously, so this morning, we don't know what's going on, but there was- There was a security guard at Drake's house got shot last night. Is it a security guard, is that who? Okay. I believe it is the security guard. Okay, so-
Starting point is 00:11:03 But it's all kind of in flux, so. exactly literally like saw that right before you know poppin on but so we have escalated to gunfight But that but the point of like when it reached that escape velocity of escape velocity, you know But how did we get how velocity so fast? So so I mean, yeah, because this has been one month. No, weeks. No, no, no, no. Thirteen years. Oh, no. But I mean to the casual outside observer. Sure, sure, sure. But as my my mental clock starts at push ups because yeah, and where any and
Starting point is 00:11:40 anyone who's giving you the timeline on this should be starting at control and anyone who's giving you the timeline on this should be starting at Control, where the Big Sean track, where Kendrick jumped on that and made his first big fucking, what's the one piece proclamation in the beginning? Of what? Go, what's it? I've hid my treasure, go out and find it.
Starting point is 00:12:06 Yeah, like, right? He says that to the world and everyone's like, ah! Right? So, like, that little moment is this, you know, Kendrick, early on in his career, of course, is jumping on and he has his, like, list, just dropping names, right? And he's just basically, people he's currently friends with people. He's in this industry with everything He's like, you know, I got love for all y'all but I'm trying to murder you niggas, right? Like yeah, I want to be the king trying to make sure your core friends never heard of you niggas
Starting point is 00:12:34 Like he's that's up and that thing pops up cuz everyone goes. Oh fuck. He's he's really about it He's like I want to be the best. It's the bracket. Oh shit but at the same time if you are an up- an up and comer is pointing you out as somebody to kill in your industry, that means he respects you as an artist, as a goal to reach. And everyone gets that except Drake. What? Why would Drake get it? Everyone understands that it's like, yeah, if you care and you are in this like fucking
Starting point is 00:13:07 game and you're trying to be the best, then bring the competition. Like in anything competitive, you want to fight the best. But he takes it, Drake takes it personally. And behind the scenes, that's where there starts to be like the whole talk about like, yeah, him being like upset at that and being like, oh, why would you, you know, we were friends. And I mean, also like there's a, um, if you go back to like, um, uh, uh, section 80, there's a, not section 80. Um, no, good. Uh, yeah. I think it's section 80 where there's a, there's a, uh,
Starting point is 00:13:39 a Drake collab where you actually learn a song together, you know? Um, but anyway, like that is... Yeah, he just he takes that shit and feels it and whereas other people are like, all right, let's just come back and escalate. But that's the beginning, right? And then all that sort of ramps up over the years. And you get to the big production that was last year, First Person person shooter, where Drake and J. Cole jump on and they do a very big video with the two of them. And the whole, yes, there's the verse that isn't in question, where Jake says, where J. Cole says, yeah, who's the best?
Starting point is 00:14:23 Is it Drake? Is it me? Or is it K-Dot? We're the big three, they're starting a league. And that's his, there's been other versions of that throughout, like Rapist, who were just like, oh, who's the best at the time or whatever. But in saying that, the premise of this video
Starting point is 00:14:40 is the two of them having chess matches and then sparring and then having their table tennis matches with each other. And they're kind of like, we're the two of them having chess matches and then sparring and then having their table tennis matches with each other. And they're kind of like, we're the two greats. I'm, and Drake is the king of sales. You know, and J. Cole is the king. Most money ever. Right. And J. Cole is the king of depth and B is saying he's the deepest. And then all of a sudden, Kendrick, he's good too. And he's here too, right? You're just like, uh-huh, okay.
Starting point is 00:15:06 And that's where also like, you know, the Drake-Michael Jackson comparisons are because he like tied for the most number one. Wow, some of them. You know, yeah, exactly, right? Tied for the most number one singles or whatever. So that's where like some of those bars and the comparison points come off. But anyway, like, so Cole says that and, you know, they're having this like this like head to head teta teta and then they're like, Oh, it's like the Spider-Man meme where we look at each other. Yeah, we're
Starting point is 00:15:33 both the greats, you know, and like, and there's rumors, I don't know how substantiated they are. But there's rumors that like, apparently apparently that was there was a point where it was considered or Kendrick was offered to do That track or so but like something or not, but whatever the case is it was just kind of like, oh no, forget him It's all about this. We're the real two that matter here, you know So then yeah, like that's where you know, especially after everything it was brewing in the background Kendrick came back a month ago or so on Like That with a Metro Boomin' beat, a name that I'm sure has popped up quite a bit and people have heard since now.
Starting point is 00:16:12 Now, now, yeah. Metro Boomin' is. Yeah. And he is fucking great at his job. Just go make some drums or something, you know? And that he did. But hey, on Like That, Kendra jumped in Just go just go make some drums or something, you know and then that he did but hey on unlike that Kendrick jumped in and
Starting point is 00:16:36 Basically said yeah the fuck big three. It's just big me right never mind your your your bullshit from first-person shooter And so that's where it's like, okay, it's been called out. It's on here. We go, you know So that's where, you know, J. Cole, again, this is someone who's known for his depth. And in particular, I, as someone who's like, kind of, I've had friends that are intimate and stuff and I know that like, I feel the notable thing is he had a track called False Profits where he basically calls out and predicts Kanye West For for everything he is so it's like oh shit, you know, okay, he's paying attention but in that yeah, he did as he did is a seven minute drill and
Starting point is 00:17:20 By his own words that was the most embarrassing shit he's ever done He immediately came out after going after Kendrick and said, yeah, you know what, actually, never mind. I'm out. I don't want none of this. So I saw a little sprinkle of that as it occurred before I put my foot into it. And I was like, that's strange. I've never, I mean, I'm sure it's happened before but I'm not personally familiar with people putting out a diss track only to Immediately walk it back before any level of response at all, huh? That's weird. So and the thing is is that like one it's like he's not that dude, right? That's the it's kind of like that It's not that he's that he doesn't have that energy and like he clearly knows it and you can see and like you can infer
Starting point is 00:18:08 Almost that black behind the scenes. There was probably pressure for him to be like, oh, yo, you got to step up You got a fucking we got a we can't take this lion down, you know, but and he's like, you know what man I can take Now I can you know the thing is at the time that happened dude people were so bad They're like you fucking bitch. What a coward Ever oh my god, and like your reputation will never recover. You know he'd like I can't believe it and then This motherfucker looks like a genius. Holy shit, the levels.
Starting point is 00:18:48 He is just feet up, right on vacay with the fam, just, you know, sipping on margaritas, man. Like just the ability to just see it, predict it, back the fuck off and leave with your hands washed clean of the affair. They've never been cleaner. That's the thing. It's the exact moment of the backdown is right before the escalation point. I would like to apologize. I said some mean things. I didn't really mean them. I was in a weird place. I really like you. Let's be friends.
Starting point is 00:19:25 Live on stage at a show no less. And yeah, he looked straight at the camera and said, I have no enemies. So yeah, that was that. So he does that. But of course, that's where Drake has to come back with his side of things. So he gets into push-ups. You know, that was in mid-April. Kendrick's short and he doesn't make enough money. Hey, how you like, because his album was, you know, Mr. Morale and the big step is how are you going to step big with size seven shoes or whatever?
Starting point is 00:20:05 And the little album thing is like the shoe size. Like you're a tiny man. But that's pretty funny. I'm small. I get it. Yeah, yeah. My name is Drake and I'm here to say we're making fun of Kedrick in a crazy way. So before we continue, Woolie, I want, me and Paige have been talking about this. We are both so in this isn't usually our scene, but we're so in. But I was talking to her. I'm like, why is everything so funny? Like, why am I walking around giggling at all hours of the day? And it is because a phrase called disproportionate retaliation.
Starting point is 00:20:45 When somebody bumps into you and you stab them, that's funny. That's just funny. It is because it's disproportionate retaliation, right? But it's not just that. It's that the parties involved, on one hand on one hand you have literally the definition of Club and Walmart music right? Yeah, this is the sound you hear as you are shopping for products As most that would say right?
Starting point is 00:21:23 It is so insanely just it is so bland nothing Inoffensive commercial shit, and that's ultimately why I never fucking got into Drake. I don't I never gave a shit I give no fucks, and I never have Drake song over the years. It's meant nothing top to bottom I know some people will go nah. He's brought us some classics. Yeah, he's brought some bangers I never got in I never every right Drake song Sounds like that other Drake song that I heard So like this what's really funny what's really funny about this two weeks ago page nine in the car
Starting point is 00:21:58 the radio is on and what comes on but Taylor Swift because If the radio is on, Taylor will arrive somehow. Of course. Right? And Paige is not a big Swiftie, but she does know that she exists because she's a white woman. And she starts explaining and I'm like, why does every fucking song sound exactly the same? Like every single Taylor Swift song sounds like she's in the back of the car, we're never going to get back together. And Paige starts to explain to me that she's the spiritual avatar of the white woman and likes to put in all these little hints about all her stupid personal
Starting point is 00:22:39 life gossip shit, like the red scarf and all this stuff. And oh, everybody, all the Swifties go all crazy because they have all these little treasure hunts to play with the song about who is doing what or who's mad at who. All right, I want you to do me a favor. From now on, those little things you're talking about, refer to them as subliminals for the culture. All right, we got it.
Starting point is 00:23:03 We call those subliminals. There's subliminals everywhere. That's why she's always in the back of the car and blah blah blah and that's why bad blood is about how Katy Perry took her backup dancers blah blah blah blah blah yeah right and so one of the things that stood out to me in this whole thing is the line Taylor made but also how everyone gets to have so much fun picking apart fucking lyrics on Euphoria. Right, right, yeah. Like right away.
Starting point is 00:23:33 So the thing is too, on another side of this as well, there's just, in addition to it being, there's been a bunch of music that categorizes that it in the same place as Drake's but in addition to just like not fucking with it His voice is annoying to me. I hate it. I really don't like the nasally fucking listen. I hate the sound But that's where I'm going that's exactly where I'm going The Toronto accent is being broadcast to the world for the fucking trash that it is. And so I spend a fucking career talking about how garbage the Toronto accent is, how much I hate it. It starts to finally get some fucking play
Starting point is 00:24:16 with the interview with that girl who's popping up. You left your moms in the hood? Sick to me, stomach fam. It's so horrendous. And I also, years ago, talked about how I remember going to school and watching people I was in fucking high school with try this shit out. And just one day start turning it up and start dialing it up
Starting point is 00:24:38 and I'm like, stop it! Stop saying that shit! It's horrible! The Toronto accent is not, okay, so non-Canadians, people who don't know Toronto, the Toronto accent isn't just offensive to your ears because it sounds like shit. It's literally an appropriated accent.
Starting point is 00:24:56 It's working in, it's trying to work in basically like patois Jamaican with a little bit in New York and then a little bit of vague Whatever the fuck we picked up on rap city on MTV that day that week You know whatever we like it is not a real accent that people grow up listening to their parents speak It is a learned accent through television not even filtered through people in real life It is filtered through fucking television, right? It's the fakest most bullshit ever and so a lot of that like just lifted garbage
Starting point is 00:25:33 Nonsense starts like cementing itself as people are trying to sound fucking hard over and that's a joke Right over nothing and in particular like trying to sound hard lifting shit from places like I don't know fucking cop did right so so yeah, I mean on the personal side of things just imagine like Like over you know you're from grade 7 you start you should start hearing people Trying to trying to sound this way and then grade 8 a couple more people are doing it And you're just like I can't fucking god. I can't handle it. You know, so that I have that level of personal, just like fuck all of that. Right.
Starting point is 00:26:09 I always hated it. It's terrible. Never, never, never. Fuck was Toronto. God damn it. So anyways, so yes. And now, so, you know, the six X, uh, uh, uh, Toronto, you know, uh, uh, Drake has always been like, it's the thing where it's like, yo, but it's Canada, it's representing Canada. And someone was like, I't I got a no fuck. I don't give a fuck about that. That's like I do I don't want I don't like oh to ride. I don't play. I don't claim it Anyways, so there's been this thing though where like it's it's also behind the scenes There's all there's been like energy of like yeah And so do us a lot of like the hip-hop community in America
Starting point is 00:26:44 Especially because they're just like, who the fuck is this Canadian nigga? Like, there's just there's this level of just, ah, all right, I guess, you know, but there's that outsider bit where like, they're like, Yeah, we kind of don't really want to see you do well, but you're doing really well. Those numbers are pretty uncontested. Right? It's the it's It's the safest, most playable, again, you're gonna hit the club, and you're gonna hit your Walmart, and it's gonna be the same thing.
Starting point is 00:27:11 So anyways, he comes in. Like, my brain, every time I think or talk about Drake to anyone, my brain is like that Mostef fucking quote is just on loop. Or you've seen Vayne now. I forget what it is, but it's a nice music to listen to and target.
Starting point is 00:27:27 It's likeable, it's likeable is what he says, and then he's like, wow, so many products. Look at all the skews. Oh my god, it's so mean. These products are great. Oh, is it, is this that new Drake? Yeah, that's wonderful. Anyway, wow, we're shopping.
Starting point is 00:27:47 So anyway, that's wonderful. Anyway, wow, we're shopping. Yeah. So anyway, you know, that's the deal. And on the other side of the ring, right in the red trunks is the fucking most lyrical, hardest dude, the most real shit who if you've listened to his albums, the build up has been this trajectory of like, undeniableeniable, like certified bangers, but the depth is so real, it's so there, and it hits you on a fucking guttural level, right? The shit that like, listening to that for the first time of like, yeah, this is, it is the most personal journey
Starting point is 00:28:22 and it's, yeah, you just, Kendrick coming at it in such an incredible way that like I mentioned, when they had the Super Bowl like fucking show and they got all the classics, you had Dre and Eminem and Fitty and they got Mary J. Blige and just like a classic all-star lineup and then Kendrick, it's like, yeah, that's right, that makes perfect sense. This is where that goes. What a Pulitzer.
Starting point is 00:28:44 So again, and like he's fucking writing them like the shit's lighting off fire, that's right. That makes perfect sense. This is where that goes. What a Pulitzer. You know? So again, and like he's fucking writing them like the shit's lighting off fire as he's doing. It's incredible, right? And in particular, if you're like, so I also like ever since like, you know, back, like back in the day, I can hit him up was a fucking eye opening moment for me as far as all that beef shit goes. And then learning about Pac and everything from there, coming out of a particular gospel wall
Starting point is 00:29:08 into some other shit that my cousins were showing me and everything. There was a period of time where I was like, yo, fucking, you know, the duality of how young Tupac is and how much he had a motivational, inspirational stuff, and then he had this shit that's like, I will absolutely end your fucking life and this is the realest shit it's ever been is wild.
Starting point is 00:29:29 But it was always really interesting. So then like when Kendra kind of came in and like he's like, yo, I'm a huge fan of that dude, too. And like a lot of his stuff references and gears and gets and points towards it. I found that awesome. It was a really nice, you know, modern day to kind of like echo and take that to another level, etc. you know, modern day to kind of like echo and take that to another level, etc. It's the realest shit ever. It's insane to put these two up against each other and whatnot. So when he comes back after we hear nothing for a week and then push ups goes down and then I was like, oh, oh, what's taken Kendrick so long? Oh, damn, we've been waiting all day. He makes Taylor made right. The Taylor made freestyle, which is first off, it opens with the AI, AI Tupac going,
Starting point is 00:30:11 yo Kendrick, you got to win this one. You got to do this for the hood. You can't let this Canadian do it. You better be coming back with something hard, otherwise it's over. And then AI Snoop as well coming in same thing because you had it's it's representing you know the people that he respects and and that and like that's the opening salvo, you know for for that particular thing and Everyone's just like what the fuck that's not like I get you we get the angle of being like oh like your heroes are talking Shit, you know, they're talking down or whatever. That's what you tried to play
Starting point is 00:30:44 But most people are just like that. Don't fucking do that shit, including the fucking estate of one Mr. Shakur, who was like, get that shit off immediately. So they took it down. But the end of that track is where he kind of jumps in and he's like, yeah, we've been waiting your take your response has taken too long and he continues the whole motif he's
Starting point is 00:31:08 been going on of drop and give me 50 right which the the reasoning for the name Taylor made and the reasoning for that line in particular coming up so much is because they're referencing the fact that like the deals that Kendrick has signed was like, basically, he was forced to do these collaborations and move his shit around for Taylor Swift to collaborate with Taylor Swift whether or not he wanted to. He was forced to do it by his producers and his deal essentially is going to have to give up 50% for everything.
Starting point is 00:31:40 So the whole drop your album and give me 50% of what it makes is what he's trying to do with the whole push ups bit and referencing that back in tailor made, etc. Great. That happens. After that goes down, a little bit later, yeah, is when Euphoria, the track that you heard, came out where Kendrick kind of came back in with this whole just mellow vibe to the whole thing, like nonplussed, like whelmed is the energy that he came back with in that. And yeah, that's where you first started hearing it because that's where it gets personal. That's where he starts making fun of the Toronto shit, the accents and all that.
Starting point is 00:32:34 It goes from, I'm criticizing this about you. I'm criticizing this about you. I'm making fun, I'm making fun. And now we're at, I fucking hate you. He's, but he's, I fucking hate you. I'm making fun. I'm making fun. And now we're at I fucking hate you He's but he's I fucking hate you But he's introducing the concept though because it's not even at full like hatred like maximum power levels yet It's just introducing the concept of like I hate that. I hate your vibe. I hate your shit, right and I
Starting point is 00:33:03 Just hate the way you say nigga. I literally don't like it I don't want you to say it anymore it's not that deep some things can just be surface level we don't want to hear you say it no more right and um what's particular I mean that's obviously hilarious right just he's like yeah some shit's just surface level it doesn't have to be that deep. But like, if you do go, and like, there's clips of people of interviews with Drake from years ago. And like, there's a particular one where he's,
Starting point is 00:33:36 he's talking about his influences and people that inspired him and shit. And like, he actually, the way he says it in the interviews, he's like, yeah, man, you know, like, yeah, I was just, I remember listening and I was like, yeah man, I fuck with that. Like these are the niggers that I love. I wanna, you know, I love these dudes.
Starting point is 00:33:51 Like I saw that clip and it was just like, and like a puzzle piece just snapped into my fucking brain because I'm watching a lot of tech talks from black folks that are way into hip hop explaining this, right? And like one of the overwhelming like reads of euphoria from black saw that clip and was like, what is he doing? What is he saying? It's making me uncomfortable. But then you have that.
Starting point is 00:34:34 And the thing is, is remember he's an actor. He is a performer. He is that, right? He is someone who comes from that, like the performance side of things and can put on this character and can roll with that Character and stay in it for your entire career, you know, it's happened before see Rodney Dangerfield See Andrew Dice Clay you book it
Starting point is 00:34:55 You know, you can play this character for an extended period of time The thing is is that like there's people that are have similar careers I you know, I can bring up Donald Glover. Childish Gambino is, he's super talented, amazing director, amazing music, amazing- Kind of good at everything he does. Hilarious at comedy. And he's very earnest, I feel, about what he's putting out there
Starting point is 00:35:17 and who he is and what's going on. And he's not trying to be something that he isn't with all of that. He's a versatile, he's covering all his bases. And each one of those things, he's not trying to be something that he isn't with all of that. He's a versatile, he's covering all his bases. And each one of those things is very like, yeah, he's sincere about what it is. But Drake is trying to go full tilt into this side of things despite the fact that we all know that his origins are not that. And it's as clear as fuck, right?
Starting point is 00:35:44 And so anyway, so you have clips like that and that kind of ends it where people are just like, oh my God, like they just, like Kendrick just revoked the past from Drake, you know? So at this point I go back and I listened to most of these that you're describing, right? And so I don't know these guys super well, right? Kendrick's hatred is beating in my heart because I can respect it and I love it.
Starting point is 00:36:09 But my current takeaway at this exact moment was I would rather listen to Euphoria 10 times in a row than listen to any of, than listen to Push Up. Sure, sure, sure. Right, and so like that's where I'm at. Like I don't know what's going on. There's kind of a lot that I don't get and that I'm not prepared for. But I'd rather just put euphoria on over and over and over. And in the background of this, there's two things as
Starting point is 00:36:36 well that are there. One, there's the fact that we also know that Drake also fucking, again, that inferiority complex, that level of like, nah, though I'm real though, for real, take me seriously, has been there since his last beef. And that shit ended with fucking Pusha T like exposing his hidden child. And then here's a photo of you in blackface for good measure. What the fuck is this dude? Who are you? right and That was it. That's the energy that everyone like still remembers from not too long ago
Starting point is 00:37:14 Which is crazy, right? So you get You get that whole fucking Crazy thing with with the well, whatever Adi Don, which we'll get to. But you have that, and then you have the fact that the track is called Euphoria, which people have noted that it's like... So smart. Are you referring to the hit television show that is airing about kids in high school? That Drake's an executive producer?
Starting point is 00:37:42 That seems... Oh, okay, cool. Well, just you know, that's that's a title. So you're telling me no, no, no, no, right? No, no I typed in euphoria I would get a TV series, but then I would also get the Kendrick Lamar song making fun of drink No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. He put the definition in the screenshot. It's just you for I'm feeling euphoric I'm just feeling I'm at oh, yeah, he's everything. That's all that's all it is. That I'm feeling euphoric. I'm just feeling, I'm at peace, I'm at ease, everything feels good. That's all it is. That's all it is.
Starting point is 00:38:07 That's all it is. Okay. Yeah. Okay. Cool. No hidden meaning there. Got it. 616 in LA follows up with that and the thought is like, okay, that's too back to back.
Starting point is 00:38:20 And so that week though of silence or so was like, okay, he's putting some work in, right? Kendrick has been putting a thing together and he has that photo. He has a photo of, you know, like it's just some gloves, you know, that like, okay, what is that about? You know, are these Drake's gloves? Yeah, probably. But he's getting at the idea that most of 616 in LA is just your team hates you, the people around you hate you too. I hate you, but your team hates you too. They're all rooting for you
Starting point is 00:38:52 to fail and the people closest to you are actually your biggest haters. Listen, you actually have no friends. Like when I say, I say, like that I hate you as a universal constant amongst everyone in your vicinity. Everyone who's ever met you. Yeah. The print for your downfall. And you know, and the gloves are off at this point, so to speak. Right?
Starting point is 00:39:21 Yes, that's that's your reference there. Right? point, so to speak. Yes, that's your reference there. So that same day is when Drake comes back with Family Matters. And Family Matters is him coming in with the full on like, okay, yo, I'm going hard. This is it. And he has a full music video produced right he had time to go feel pretty impressive for a diss track to have a whole music video he had time to go film himself in LA and then go up to Toronto and fill himself going to new ho king which is the restaurant that that Kendrick referred to which is this yeah it's a Chinese food spot food spot on Spadina.
Starting point is 00:40:07 Which I'd like to point out is apparently crushing it right now. Oh, they're doing nuts, of course. Yeah. Oh, man. They're killing it. They're so happy about this fucking rap beat. But it's also, but it's notable because, and it goes back a couple of layers with this whole thing, but it's like, that's essentially where, long story short, the Toronto gangs that, and sets that Drake is affiliated with, there's a thing where someone, he basically got robbed for his chain at that place. And then there's
Starting point is 00:40:36 this whole thing with a dude that got killed and et cetera. But it's a reference to a particular place. So he shows himself going back up there and being like, nah, look, I'm here. I'm with the owner. He's trying on my jewelry. We're chilling. We're doing it. We're having fun. And in the meantime, the rest of the video is him continuing to elaborate.
Starting point is 00:40:56 And then he has a tractor that is crushing a van. So the van that's being crushed there is the one from the cover of Good Kid, Mad City, right? Where it's basically like, oh, we're taking you to the pound and we're dumping the... We're taking out the trash, et cetera, right? And that's what that reference is supposed to be. His whole thing there is like, yo, so there's rumors that your wife left you that your kid is not yours. There's rumors that you beat your wife. This is good accusations.
Starting point is 00:41:31 Yeah, this shit starts coming out. Yeah, it wasn't the same thing. It was the wrong one. But yeah, this starts coming out. And then essentially just being like, okay, this is all light work and he starts switching up his flow. He starts doing something like usually Drake is not, he doesn't often do. He's got a very one note style.
Starting point is 00:41:57 He's got a very particular thing. He starts putting the effort in. The beat changes up. There's been a lot of beat switches over these songs. He puts effort into it and it's like, oh shit, okay, yeah. People are like, yeah, you've dropped a response. You've come at it with some allegations. We don't know where they're from or what they're based on or the thing of the thing where your
Starting point is 00:42:21 son is not your own is, again, a whole extreme would sound like a trap the chapter out of Drake's life But he's he's you know retaliating here this way And that happens and motherfuck All of that effort including flying to two locations Filming it putting together the whole thing putting the most effort he's ever put in Right. He literally says to like I'm going on vacation after this. It's done. It's time to put it on.
Starting point is 00:42:49 It's time to end this. It's time to fucking decapitate. I'm going on vacation. Half an hour later, the orbital strike that is Meet the Grahams just brah, like right in people like DJ academics is in the middle of like analyzing the holes of the track and getting all like oh fuck yo Drake's you know Drizzy's the best he's coming he's coming back etc there's a lot of people that are like you know the Drake
Starting point is 00:43:21 stans that are just they're out there and they're like living this life of Just like nah though, but the money and the hit and the hits are all that matter never mind the rest You know and they're as the term would say they're doing gymnastics on it They're doing tricks on it is what is what they say so made the grams comes out and I got, I want to say eight seconds into the song before I had to pause it and be like, put my hand over my mouth and go, oh. First of all, it sounds creepy. The fucking song sounds fucking unhinged. It's creepy. The fucking song sounds fucking unhinged.
Starting point is 00:44:05 It's creepy. Two, starting your diss track by talking to this man's son about what a piece of shit his dad is, is the most petty fucking shit I can imagine. Estranged initially, now brought into the spotlight through the last beef, and then your dad embarrassingly acknowledges your existence and has you in photos now, because when you first came out,
Starting point is 00:44:33 he was basically like, he shipped the mom off, because yeah, it's like, oh, you have a secret son with a sex worker, they're off in France, let's get them out of the spotlight, we don't want that to fuck with the image of who Drake is. And now you're begrudgingly in the spotlight. Now the image of Drake is a guy who hides his kids. Right.
Starting point is 00:44:50 So just, we're gonna start this off with, again, and the whole thing of like, in the same way that Taylor made is like, we're not addressing you directly. We're talking to other people. Cause there's other people that are like also getting, you know, shot up in this and not literally, but the shots are being taken at, you taken at Rick Ross and everything and so on. But the main two, Kendrick just kind of is like, okay, dear Adidon, your father's a horrible
Starting point is 00:45:16 human being. I'm sorry he's not a man that's there for you. I'm sorry he's not a good dad. I'm sorry. You know what really, really like fucks with me on this Because like it's impossible for anyone to know right, but my perception listening to this it it sounds At least somewhat genuine Yeah, like no no no there's like I'm sorry no there is an absolute element here No, no, and I and I believe so as well because the rest of the way this plays out
Starting point is 00:45:46 Also is not just like it's this track for this track saying it does sound like he's genuinely saying some shit to every one Of the man's family, right? He's saying they're Adonis. I'm sorry. Your father's is who he is and I'm sorry that you know You're not the priority. I'm sorry He's not gonna be there to teach you and be a be a stand-up man and he gives him some some life advice You know like piccolo to gohan, you know, he says if someone ever pisses on your leg, you know You stand there and well, he's like you better stand up for yourself. Don't just let that happen you know and that apparently is making reference to the fact that an incident happened some years ago where
Starting point is 00:46:23 Drake got disrespected on a red carpet when one of TI's dudes pissed on his leg. Just standing just right there like, yeah, what? That's hilarious. And he just took it and it was some real shit that went down. So he's talking about that. Crazy shit, right? And then, you know, play this back when you're 18.
Starting point is 00:46:49 If you need to, if you don't get it now. Verse two. Hey, Drake's mom. Dear Drake's mom. I'm sorry your son is a creepy black woman hating pedophile. He just kind of says he's a horrible person, and you probably need to sit down for this. Dear Drake's dad, you should ask him for more money.
Starting point is 00:47:13 Also, shame on you for raising a horrible person. Dear Drake's parents in general, it's important that you understand that this dude is sick, he has sick and twisted thoughts, and I think he should die. I think your son should die. Fuck a rap battle, he should just die. Like, oh!
Starting point is 00:47:33 Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! And so I'm just, I'm sitting there, just going like, ooh! Oh! Like, straight up, you know?
Starting point is 00:47:44 He's like fucking, like, he's like, and again, he's implying he's like he's he's sick and twisted You need to keep the family away from him friends Anyone who knows right if you're someone that's got your daughters around him. Keep them away. Keep the family safe He's he's bad, right? Just straight up like like shame on you the parents, right? verse 3 dear unknown Secret child that is 11 years old your daughter little girl. Yeah
Starting point is 00:48:14 I'm sorry that once again your father's a bad person and that he's this predator and he's this fucking creep and That you have to deal with this and we don't know anything about you and and he's this fucking creep and that you have to deal with this and we don't know anything about you. And now that's just, and just again, like the fact that this could have happened again is wild, right? And it's not, it's not unbelievable because especially now that like there's that like questionable like, oh, was this a planted piece of information? Was it not real? like, oh, was this a planted piece of information? Was it not real? The fact that you can look back at this accusation and be like, yeah, but it's super cromulent though.
Starting point is 00:48:51 Oh, you mean how I decided to look it up and found articles from nine years ago about his fucking hidden daughter who was two years old at the time? People are analyzing tweets where he has a tweet from 12 years ago that just says baby girl, you know? And it's just like, oh, is he talking to someone that, you know?
Starting point is 00:49:12 Bro, that's crazy. He planted that shit a decade ago. Was that the birth of his child or was that a hookup? Who knows? But either way, the way this is coming together is like, you know, Kedrick is like, yep, so I'm sorry about that too. All right. And then at long last, you know, dear Aubrey, just like you- Die.
Starting point is 00:49:37 Like, please, please, please go end. You're the worst. You're a fucking creep. We hate you. We don't want you around. And this is not a battle with me. This is a lifelong battle with yourself. And to top it all off, to top it all off, this wild, wild things being said here, I'm looking at YouTube, I'm like, why the fuck is the the picture on this YouTube video some guy's shirt? Yeah. And then I look at it like wait is this that's the gloves from the the last one? He zoomed out. And it's like wait is that his fucking prescription? Is this from inside Drake's fucking house? This is the Ozempic prescription that he has. This is the, a bunch of his personal shit.
Starting point is 00:50:29 Yeah, there's the gloves, the shirt, all of that, because he's like, yeah, there's all these things about like, oh, you take Ozempic, you whatever, like prescription, you had surgery for your abs and whatever, so he's like, yeah yeah you lied about everything about who you are 12 That's a fast one flew right over my head until I saw someone explained to me that a V12 is a fucking Abmachine lipo fucking freak thing in addition to an engine right so
Starting point is 00:50:59 Yeah, like the the the fact that like he's just, here's this photo of like, we fully zoomed out to reveal the shit that like got jacked from your place or whatever. And there's something that's like really beautiful about that because like part like, yeah, no, I'm in your house. I'm in your walls. Like pulling your shirts out of your closet. Okay, that's its own like nightmare Right, but the core of of like some of this this message is all your friends hate you It's not even me. They can't wait to fuck right? Yeah, and how could I prove to you that all your fucking friends hate you?
Starting point is 00:51:39 Yeah, oh, I don't know. I'll have one of your friends Take shit out of your fucking drawers and send me photos of it for fun! And the deal has been too that like, essentially all the things we were ever echoing about are the people saying that like, oh yeah, it's likeable music, it's fine, it's surface level, it's whatever. There's a lot of people that are like, on the payroll, they're around, that are, you know, they get put on. But like- I would like to make some money please. Yes, but essentially like there's a level, please. Yes, but essentially, like, there's a level.
Starting point is 00:52:06 There's no there's not much loyalty to it. It's a very clear like this is a paycheck. We can ride this as far as it'll go. And every time. And he's also somebody who will collaborate frequently, you know, and do a lots of featureings and shit like that. So as you'll feature constantly on people's shit and vice versa, there's a lot of coat tail room for people. So there's a whole bunch of people that are just like,
Starting point is 00:52:30 yeah, fuck all this, you know? And then that drops and just absolutely fucking levels the situation because it takes- I listened to that song once. It takes the entire high effort response that we just got from Drake and just levels it to a non-starter. There's nothing to talk about. It had no chance to get going. Completely deflates it. Also the fact that he had it sitting there and it's also a family
Starting point is 00:53:01 related thing. The track release was Family Matter This is here's a track about your family It's weird how it's almost like Kendrick knew what kind of song Drake was gonna write before he wrote it it's it's almost like it was all according to keikaku, you know and And just like just like napalming the ground You know where there's already nothing left, right? And so, and everyone I find, I find Meet the Grams impossible to listen to. Like I listened to it and I was like, wow, that's crazy. I can't hear it. It makes me so uncomfortable. Right, right.
Starting point is 00:53:38 Yeah. And so this is to where like, um, I'm like getting in an Uber and like it's playing on the fucking, like the driver's listening to it and I'm like, we're like, oh my God, isn't this the crane? He's like, bro, I'm telling you. And I'm like, yo, I'm from Canada. He's like, you're from Canada? I'm like, yes, I'm from Canada.
Starting point is 00:54:00 Fuck that dude, right? It's done. He's like, ah. Straight up, like, I'm like, you picked the right one today. Like, I'm right here to tell you, on behalf of my Canadian passport, fuck Drake. Hahahaha. Ah, right. And that was a lot of fun, you know. And then, yeah, you can't even catch- and that was the end of the rap we all went home
Starting point is 00:54:30 I'm sorry. Are you trying to catch your breath? I Just do you remember? do you remember that moment in end of Eva when like it's all gone to shit and There's that shot of like miss. Sato's corpse on the ground and then it just gets bombed again like she's already been shot it's already done yeah there's no moment to even sit there and just go and you just go oh like it just get you're like you've already been sad about the character that you lost and then it just takes the remnants of that like not a living thing and just evaporates it
Starting point is 00:55:09 Yeah, that's not like us So My I described listening to meet the Grahams and I got like one bar in I'm like I can't oh my god I feel uncomfortable. I I don't think the video for Not Like Us had even fucking finished loading in, like had faded in on the photo, before I'm like, is that the sex offender registry
Starting point is 00:55:34 fucking pins on Drake's house? So I didn't know what that was until Punch Mom came back over and went, do you know what these are? Right I was like what like Like that's just where the rabbit holes go it like she's diving down deep on her own You're diving down deep on your own where I saw where you were just like um I oh god I couldn't imagine being the subject of this song Right oh yeah, no I listen a lot not like us and I would like I would kill myself if someone wrote this song about me
Starting point is 00:56:09 immediately followed by man I need to start listening to Lamar let's go let's go sit down be humble there's a lot to learn. It's good shit, right? But that level of just like, okay, the thumbnail is so before we were hinting, we were implying we're setting it up. There's a Weinstein line. Yeah, I think you and Weinstein should rot forever, etc. Yeah, exactly. Right. And then your kids away. And then yeah, and the. Um, and then your kids away Yeah, and and thing is and there's been stuff like the whole like there's yeah There's been all these weird things with like Millie Bobby Brown being like she's like, oh, yeah We've been friends since I was 13 or whatever
Starting point is 00:56:55 And all these things, you know, so tells me about boys. So everybody is Already kind of vaguely aware of stuff like that and shit, which of course when something like this happens then now all that fucking gets brought up to the fullest detail under the microscope, but this track is just like, the subtlety is done. I've already established that I'm sorry for your family, I've already established that I hate you and I hate everything about you, I've already, and this is beyond the idea of I'm a better rapper or that this is even beef, I've already established that I hate you and I hate everything about you. I've already, and like this is beyond the idea of like I'm a better rapper or that this is even beef.
Starting point is 00:57:27 I've already established that I think you should die. So at this point, what else is there to say except, well, like literally certified lover boy, certified pedophile. So last time I said I think you should die and here is a piece of music explaining in detail why I think you should die. Wow wow wow wow! You're a pedophile? All of your friends are pedophiles? You harbor pedophiles?
Starting point is 00:57:53 You touch kids? There's people on your payroll as well, that's what all the dots are about and there's a whole thing with like, yeah, people that are part of OVO, October's Very Own AKA OVO, right, that are now like, that are also on the registry, et cetera. And just that level of, you know, you tried to strike a chord, it was probably a minor. And like, so we're in the level of like, okay, we've established everything.
Starting point is 00:58:20 There's nothing left to do except like salt the earth, burn it, walk away, and then just call down one more orbital strike for just just just to make sure you know Not like us is not just the meanest thing I've ever heard in my entire life It's also the most entertaining Thing to listen to that is also the meanest thing in my entire life Not like us is the best song out of this whole thing by a huge it's not only The like the ending salvo. It's not only the rip it in half. It's fucking done It's not only the you I thought the ether happened right we thought the hit-em-up happened. It's not only that
Starting point is 00:59:03 It's like the fucking bop. It's absolutely... Oh my god. And so cut to like it being played in the club, you know, and like everyone's... That's when it was over. That video of the club, I think it's in Atlanta or maybe LA, where there's like a it's the day of the tracks release and it is coming on in a pack club and everyone already knows all the words man it's over yeah so you know that it just it's it's all of it it's the whole thing um there is there is nothing else to really do at that point And I just remember that like every second of... Because that's the point where like yeah whenever someone drops, you know, like there's a like radio silence is... What do you... What can you do, right? How fast can you get some shit together?
Starting point is 00:59:57 This is a pretty fucking hefty bomb laid at your feet. And the overall feeling is very clear that like with three tracks in one day mind you and then and there's the back-to-back Into the back-to-back. It's like this is someone who took a week Went to the war room and it really felt like he was a general calling down strikes, you know And so yeah, okay listen, I'm gonna hit him with this and then he might retaliate with this But then I'm gonna hit him back back like that he might retaliate with this but then I'm gonna hit him pop like that, right? the and every time there's like the Sir, they just hit the second tower sir. They just hit a third tower sir. There's no towers. No third tower sir
Starting point is 01:00:34 We're out of planes It's just like it's like yeah, like it's just that feeling of like he really did just like okay hit him again Hit him again. Like there's there can't be any there can't be anything and and this is this is how fucking thorough Kendrick Lamar is about his shit right and God bless I mean there's the thing with him where it's like he takes his time between albums he's not coming out every two seconds and you know let that speak to the fucking quality of his work but But when you inspire him... There's some like...
Starting point is 01:01:08 You know, when you give... when inspiration strikes, when the muse hits... This man wrote an album! He wrote an album! I'm sure! He wrote a diss album. I'm sure... There are more... That are in the wings. Oh, you mean like 12345 plus five
Starting point is 01:01:30 I'm not like us he says how many shots do I got okay yes yes yes five plus right okay okay okay right the full thing right that line there are seven more track and the idea that's fucking I didn't even that even catch that that's And the idea, that's fucking crazy, I didn't even catch that, that's crazy. The idea that he literally wrote an entire album out. And like, the deflate, it's so deflating, right, whenever that happens.
Starting point is 01:01:55 And that's a really, like, it's in Beef's too, whenever you do that, the back to back and then the back to back, and such. It's like, if you respond, what are you gonna do? You're responding to one? Cool, you covered one hole in the boat. What about that one? What are you gonna write like you can't possibly would you just get overwhelmed with it one track? You are a bad rapper. You are not good to your family. Also, you touch kids respond to each of these now, please It's it's insane right you can't possibly so yeah
Starting point is 01:02:20 There's that just deafening silence and that's where you're like man What the fuck's he gonna, you know And I that's where that like me and punch while we're just talking about him like I like I think after that Especially with the level of it and the fact that like, you know when it comes to like, you know, where the receipts type of shit, right that comes up a lot with the Accusations being levied back and forth with Drake the receipts have been public for a long time So we'll get we'll get to that in just a second that the receipts have been public for a long time. So we'll get to that in just a second. The receipts discussion gets to happen right afterwards.
Starting point is 01:02:51 But like I'm sitting here, so Paige knows music, right? I don't know music. Paige plays instruments and she can sing, right? So we're laughing our asses off at trying to strike a chord. Oh. But it's probably A minor. Okay, hold on. And she points out that A minor is a chord with no black keys in it. This, okay, this is a stretch.
Starting point is 01:03:16 There's levels. Is it? Yes, yes it is. There's levels to this shit that often will land and then there's shit where it's like, okay, we're- Is it a stretch? of this shit that often like will land and then there's shit where it's like Okay, we're we're I think it feels perfect I What like I wonder I mean I okay It could be the thing with the a CE
Starting point is 01:03:45 Was a what's the thing with that? I thought so that's probably sorry. Yeah, okay, okay that so that's what I thought You were bringing up there. Sorry the ace no no that's the strategy even I'll admit. That's okay. It's great A C E thing is a ridiculous minor has no black keys. Yeah, yeah, okay, right right right yes, that's just really fun So because that this I was I was preemptively Responding to the other bit. But yeah, so that level of shit is going on and you have to do something. You can't let a fucking club, fucking hit, calling you a fucking kitty toucher just sit.
Starting point is 01:04:24 So I thought, I'm like, this is where we get, Fucking hit calling you a fucking kitty touch or just sit So I thought I'm like this is where we get I'm expecting like because he has to have a video and he has to subtitle It for everybody because the production is important is I'm expecting yo acapella. No, no beat. I'm gonna sit here and talk to the camera with a white black background You know and just be like hey That was not cool You know, I I really did yeah, so in the in the prelude to post not like us, but before Drake's response, which is I Forget the name of it. The Heart Part 6.
Starting point is 01:05:05 The Heart Part 6. People start posting the same video over and over and over on social media. And they is, this is Drake with his ghost writers in the studio right now. And it is Frank Reynolds from Always Sunny running into the room, going, we have to write a song about how we don't touch kids. I don't touch kids Song is gonna be like that exactly like you can you seriously come out and just be like hey Hey, I am NOT a pedophile That's fuck. It's crazy. It's it's better right so but that's the position you're in and you can't do nothing be like, hey, hey, I am not a pedophile.
Starting point is 01:05:45 That's, it's crazy. It's, right, so, but that's the position you're in. And you can't do nothing. So it is- But you can, like, it's so fucked too because he can't make a song where he doesn't say, by the way, I'm not a pedophile. He has to say that.
Starting point is 01:05:58 And then, and like, and like, again, if there's been anything that you've already known about that you've been saving up, it would have been Said at this point, but it hasn't so there isn't So that's just the knockout because it's checkmate you the reply is failure the nod reply is failure Everything everything is fucked So yeah, what you do and this is again. This has happened in the past when this happened with the
Starting point is 01:06:23 So yeah, what you do, and this is, again, this has happened in the past too, and this happened with the Adidon shit, was just like, you gotta go down swinging, right? You gotta go down- Yeah, you have to attack. You can't just defend. Exactly. And you're gonna just like, you're gonna go, everyone's gonna know it's over, everyone's gonna know it's the weakest shit, but regardless, you have to do something. So he releases the heart part six.
Starting point is 01:06:43 The heart part whatever is something that comes up throughout his Kendrick's discography like the hard part one two three four five are all tracks from either his mixtapes or his previous albums and You know and it's in it's Him being sincere or opening up and sinks, you know, it's usually saying something real, right? So it's really smart the Drake grab that because now Kendrick can't use that as a fucking song title anymore. He took the title away, so to speak. Except... Except...
Starting point is 01:07:15 Wouldn't the hardest fucking move to just drop your next album, to put a track on it called The Heart, Part 6, Anyways, and move on because who the fuck cares? Which version are you talking about? I'm obviously talking about the Kendrick version of the song. Right? Like the thought, the thought was, I'm going to take the title away from you
Starting point is 01:07:35 of this long running thing and make it so that you'll never be able to use it again except he totally can and no one will give a fuck because shit was weak. What can you say, right? He comes in and he's like, a fuck because shit was weak. What can you say? Right? He comes in and he's like, and now you start to see the cracking and the fucking unfolding is like shit that was not brought up by Kendrick, but is in the public eye anyway, because everyone's
Starting point is 01:07:55 thinking about it. He starts talking about, right? So he knows he's like, because there's a level of it's like, um, he can't say, oh, the, the pedophile angle I predicted So he has to say like oh the Epstein angle I predicted you're going into that shit, right? You go alright, so we're this is this is this is my favorite part of the whole thing like so which is right away
Starting point is 01:08:20 Right away like one of the first lines and the whole fucking thing is I like I predicted you would call me a pedophile Why did you protect people would call you a bad file? Just it's it's like so he's talking about how we set the whole thing up And this was this was great exercise and whatever and we planned the whole thing and we plotted information right and The information he's talking about plotting is the thing about his daughter, right? Yeah. And he's like, you know. I definitely don't have a daughter.
Starting point is 01:08:49 Right, prove that in any way you can. So it's like, okay, let's see where that is. Now, everything else. I set that up nine years ago, idiot. Yeah, now everything else that we set up, it's like, if you did in fact set this up and go here's the shit we're gonna send him, here's the photo, take a picture of all my stuff, stuff right wouldn't you then also take a photo of one more version
Starting point is 01:09:08 where you're standing behind all the stuff going ah right absolutely you you would you would videotape the whole thing talking about how you're gonna fuck with them and he'd look so stupid right if you had this fucking master plan instead of just I'm not owned I'm not owned and shrinking into a small ozempic bottle like I just listen you listen wooly I've heard a lot of people get caught or accused of or been people say mean things I've seen a lot of mean things said to people in my life and I genuinely think that the nah man's I saw on this on this track are the weakest most nonsensical fucking things I've ever seen in my life
Starting point is 01:09:55 nobody brought that one show me the receipts huh show me the receipts nowhere in the in Kendrick's lines that he bring up Millie Bobby Brown, but he did did he he mentioned her Not by name, but he says you say you like tens, but I know you like your girl 11 That's a strange. Oh, yeah, okay, okay because it's in Every one because that's the most popular of the like here's some weird shit from a long time ago, right? That's sick. But there's then these videos of like, here's the like 17 year old that came on stage,
Starting point is 01:10:35 where he's like, ah man, why is she so hot? How old are you? So like, ah, let me kiss you anyways, right? Like, so, so like, me and Paige are are like because he says show me the receipts and then my fucking timeline just explodes With receipts and that's the one that's the most uncomfortable one by such a huge margin Because I kissed a 17 year old girl on stage and you go. Oh like on the cheek Right, and then you watch the video No, but then she tells him and he's like, ah man. You're like, okay, and then he's like I liked it though
Starting point is 01:11:12 No, right, right, right, right don't do that now don't go in for more kisses No, don't stop stop doing that right you got fucking you've got there's I mean all over genius you can get just like these little screenshots of, you were a baddie even in your yearbook. You know? Right? You've got just like, just like so many self-reports over the years.
Starting point is 01:11:40 So many incredible deleted Drake tweets that I've been seeing that are just like, they read like shit So so this is where it's like now you have to imagine this response because of the nature of the fucking previous track This is not about the battle anymore. This is not about who's the best rapper This is not about any of that This is a man fighting for the millions of dollars and the empire that he's built Trying to keep that shit from collapsing because this is wild right this is career ending shit
Starting point is 01:12:13 He has to cut he has to like a he has to address that as opposed to like fucking like the context of the beef even Hey, listen, you know Lee you were kind of missing the force for the trees here, okay? so there's accusations that Drake is creepy and touches kids or grooms minors or whatever. But you have to remember, and this is really important, Drake is really famous. And if he was touching kids or grooming minors, he'd be arrested. He's too famous to get away with this kind of thing. You know what? That's a fucking great counterpoint. We didn't consider that.
Starting point is 01:12:53 Damn. L. Kung Fu Kenny, Drake won. So, so, oh man. I'm like, I slapped my space bar when I heard that. I'm like, no, no. And here's my favorite part. It doesn't even make sense in his own song because he talks about the Epstein angle.
Starting point is 01:13:18 And, and when he's talking about feeding the information, we said we planned for a week to feed you fake information, that goes against what he said a couple bars earlier where he's like calling the sources that you believe in dummies, right? And saying that like, he's saying like, oh, you believed in some non-credible shit and like he's calling them clowns.
Starting point is 01:13:40 So it's like the clowns are the people that are your clowns that you set up, the people that are your clowns then? What the fuck are you getting at? But hey listen, listen, Wooly. We need to sit in awe of the absolute worst defense of any position Anyone has ever seen in their life Which is the only reason you hate pedos is because you got molested The absolute
Starting point is 01:14:17 Worst angle mother. I mother I mother I always wasn't the track where you wasn't that the track where you got touch, okay, so That's the thing. All right, so Mr. Morale and the hot stepper and the and the big suppers is um, like that's that that mr Morale is an album that is really really vulnerable. It's fucking like he gets into Shit about his mom shit about his past right? He gets into all kinds of like, again, shit about abuse. He has a family member, he has an auntie who transitions and you know, like this whole thing is very, again, it's very real, right?
Starting point is 01:15:02 And like, it's, the wildest part is that like, in the middle of this extremely vulnerable album, there's that song where he talks about that. But the whole thing in that particular song is that it didn't happen, right? It's that his mom went through that shit and then as and then she and others were like asking him if he did, if he got touched or so, but he didn't, and there was this whole thing about him being believed, which was the, but it's the main takeaway, it's the main point.
Starting point is 01:15:33 Wait, are you, are you telling me that Drake was trying to deflect off of pedo accusations by saying, well, you're just mad you got molested, to somebody who hadn't even been molested And he would know that if he had listened to the whole song So I mean when you're grasping at straws you're grasping at straws But like the level is if it did happen what the fuck is wrong with you? And it didn't happen what the fuck is wrong with you. It's insane
Starting point is 01:16:04 And it didn't happen. What the fuck is wrong with you? It's insane It's it's like the the OS is no matter how reality plays out here You fucked up you failed like it's so insane to go in on that you know um listen Drake I don't think Using the onion article school bully not so tough since being molested as the core of your comeback Dude The headquarters is in a spiral. Okay, things are bad. It's the red alert. They're tired no one has slept and Quite frankly the citizen app is not helping with its pings
Starting point is 01:16:46 I saw I saw people talking about like they saw Kendrick at his house or in his studio and Kendrick looks like shit He looks like he hasn't slept in days. Oh is that and they surmise that he is just Writing and writing and writing and writing is there's okay whenever shit like this It's like the the fever pitch, a lot of lies and bullshit comes out, but I fucking believe that because, yeah, dude is like, when he's on, he's on and you can see it, right? Every single fucking step of it. To the point where, yeah, there's shit you were mentioning here
Starting point is 01:17:19 that I missed in this fucking, in covering the whole bit, right? Like, there's shit that we still haven't uncovered or probably still haven't gotten to or, you know, that has not been dissected yet that might come up yet still later. Incredible. It truly is a master class in hatred, right? That's, this is what it looks like. And when you have this type of, like, response, it's like, yeah, Kendrick could drop any of the next.
Starting point is 01:17:48 He could get Magdum, right? Empty the clip if you wanted to. But no, no, that's not what he's going to do. The feeling he's going to wait until the most inconvenient possible moments. Well, but the but the but the feeling here is already like it's. What else is there to, like he just, he got in the coffin, he sprinkled dirt on himself, and he shut it. Well, like, I don't know if you know this,
Starting point is 01:18:12 but this actually ties into gaming news on this next part. Kendrick is going to be featured as a song on the Street Fighter VI information next week on a PlayStation Showcase. Okay. Because DJ Academics said yesterday that Kendrick can't drop anything for now because he has to wait until the Sony thing next week happens. Oh my god. Oh, ack.
Starting point is 01:18:43 Oh, ack. God damn it. Wait, is that real? I was told that was real. Well, the universe is saying otherwise? Eh. Okay. Okay. Not real.
Starting point is 01:19:01 All right, well, I mean, you know they they did work with Fucking yeah, but brain is drawing a blank little Wayne earlier on I had launched so Well, so yeah, no they they they fucking just like there's a there's we're at, I'd say here, where further volleys, like, I don't even, like, there's not much here to say. You might as well, like, stock that shit and just have it ready to go for a rainy day if needed. But, but what if someone else has something to say oh what if the what if someone else doesn't have something to say they just got what so they got some guys they Metro Metro moving Drake told him to just go make some drugs go make some drums what if he did that? Yo, Metro made some drums. And then he released them. And he basically put a contest out.
Starting point is 01:20:10 You know, and like, you just use the hashtag with BBL Drizzy. BBL Drizzy! And it's a fucking banger of a beat. It's great! It's so good. It's incredible! Yo, once the beat drops, man. Oh, god. It's amazing. Yo, what's the beat drops, man? Oh God. And it's amazing, amazing.
Starting point is 01:20:27 Yeah. So everyone's jumping in on it. Like whether or not you even want in on the beef, you're just like, now's the time. Here's a hashtag. I'm gonna get- I was listening to Japanese language diss tracks. Right.
Starting point is 01:20:39 To the BBL's Drizzy beat. Open fucking source as well, because you've got the, you've got the fact that a lot of this shit is playable and not getting claimed. Not every track in the beef is under that protection, but a lot of it is. So Kendrick is actually like, yeah, no play it, talk about it, by all means. Go bar by bar if you must. Break it all down. So that's fucking great
Starting point is 01:21:06 um Yeah, it's just uh I again like he walked he walked out of the last beef, you know with that like hey, here's my son Look, we're hanging out. I'm the i'm a good dad now We're doing it. All right, wait, chill Let some time pass and then you know what the next time you go to the club. That's it It'll it'll the music's gonna be playing and everyone's gonna be dancing and it'll be a good old time. You know, um, I Don't know the song of the summer is Drake touches kids. So The thing that
Starting point is 01:21:48 The thing that, what I just described, where he gets out of the last beef by just making the club hits and letting that continue to just spread, the problem is that the track that ended you here is taking the place of what your shit would be. The thing that you should be making everyone forget about the beef because you've got another club hit, no, the ether is now the club hit. There's nowhere to go. There's nothing to release. Oh my God. The idea, like, my pie in the sky is that Kendrick manages to put all these together into an album,
Starting point is 01:22:25 and releases that album, which would put it in consideration for the grant. BOTH LAUGH I mean, at that point, right, that's where you start getting fuckin'... That's where legal teams start getting involved, I'm sure, at a certain point, you know? And then they'll ask Drake to present. Man. LAUGHS I mean, that should have been the album called Damn. You know, but and then they'll ask Drake to present man I mean that should have been the album called damn
Starting point is 01:22:52 Like holy fuck Which brings us back around to If you're gonna start listening, that's I think you should start with the pimp a butterfly got it Then I would take a, then I'd head up Good Kid Mad City, you know? That's pretty strong. Section 80 is where he lays out who he is, you get introduced to him, it's very musical, very good. A lot of the stuff that comes later gets wild, gets artistic, but fucking, there's always, there's always good shit there but yeah that's that's what's going on that's what's going on I don't know I don't know where this can go like there's it feel it feels over but it's not I mean it's just like it's it is the ultimate in just the hubris right of like like saying I
Starting point is 01:23:47 want that smoke I really do and The only thing I guess there is like it takes it takes a level of ego to just have it all you have The most surface level but you run that you run the most basic level shit And you're just not satisfied with that so you Try to overreach and you know what man? You know you know what the winner of the fucking beef is not Drake nor Kendrick Lamar. It's a J. Cole J. Cole was smartest man in the world J. Cole won this war Um I saw some folks in the chat saying, court, that's where it goes, right?
Starting point is 01:24:29 I'm not a lawyer, but I do know one thing about United States libel, slander, and defamation law, which is the criteria is that in order for Drake to sue Kendrick for saying all this shit, he would have to prove that Kendrick knew what he was saying was false when he said it and that seems impossible. You're also describing a hypothetical scenario where a hip-hop beef can go to court and have someone sit there and say, your honor, tell him to stop saying nasty things about me. I would love that.
Starting point is 01:25:14 And somehow survive this career. I would love it. That would be the best. Your honor, he's a very mean man. Your honor, make him stop is wild. Like, you just look, MGK knew better. He just left. He picked up his things and he walked over to the next genre and he put him down over
Starting point is 01:25:36 there. You know? So, yeah, I don't know about that. Oh boy. Well now that we've covered the rat beef, there's nothing else to talk about this week. None of that's whatsoever here. I'm getting pretty parched. That was a pretty big talk. Excuse me. What the fuck is that? I don't know what the fuck that is What the fuck is a ducky Are you talking about you talking about the beaver you talking about yeah, you're talking about Bucky
Starting point is 01:26:19 Bucky what the fuck is that? Bucky's I have learned Bucky's. I have learned. I've heard, but I have learned. Bucky's is... It's a state of mind. It's a way of living. Okay. It's a- it's a- it's- it's- It's how do you put a label on a lifestyle? Oh, man. Oh boy. Bucky's, let me tell you So I went to America this week. He went to America. I went to America
Starting point is 01:26:54 You mentioned that briefly earlier I did I did I did I'll I'll take I'll take the week over here Yeah, I swung on down to a good old Tejas in particular. So, you know, we went to the the absolute, I mean America, America fucking America deep. Fucking yeehaw. We yeehawed. Yeah, went down, hung out with Austin and Skelly V and I went down actually to get a little bit of ink done. So, I got a tattoo.
Starting point is 01:27:32 Yeah. So, what do you got? Me and Skelly got, we got some little Kerbo tats going on my leg here. I put it out on Instagram actually just so you can go to Here, let me see if I can drop the link Anyways, it's on it's on my wooly woo's on Instagram. You can check it out. It's the thing I just put up but I Got a little I got a little poyo on my leg there. It's a great. Thank you. It's yeah, it's the Him in the middle of the universe because the scariest, most
Starting point is 01:28:07 terrifying thing is shaped like a friend. It's Pollo. Never forget it. That's sacred Kirby geometry. Yeah, I want to go do that. Shoutouts to Ink by Silver Eye who did mine at Midgard Tattoo Company. Real real cool. I have been through my entire back and spine as my first tattoo. So that was kind of crazy as a first volley. it was but it also therefore means that I'm ready for the basic bitch shit that is a fatty ass fucking calf thigh or arm or whatever else right I assume that's like cakewalk by comparison absolutely it still is not the most pleasant feeling some people
Starting point is 01:29:04 really like the feeling of getting inked up. I don't like it, but it's still nothing compared to like spine day, right? Now the other thing is, and I feel like I've touched on it a little bit before, the significance of my back tattoo is very high. I got it for a very personal reason. But I also wanted to get more. And I kind of was like, well, where do we kind of fucking go from here? So this is a nice... You kind of started at the end. Yes. Right? So let's go backwards to something simple and take it down a notch with the sentiment to some degree. And I also as well have been waiting
Starting point is 01:29:49 as a reward for myself for slimming down, losing weight. I said once I get my body back in shape, I wanna get it inked up so that I can fucking look the way I've always wanted it to look. Step one is not be massively unhealthy and step two is put some cool shit down. So yeah, I got a lot that I'm planning to do and this is the first step I'm taking. So I got that done. And yeah, that was a, again, relatively simple process by comparison, and it's healing up great.
Starting point is 01:30:28 Something about it too that was interesting is for a little bit of extra detail on some of the thicker black lines, the artist put in some white for some contrast, which I've always wondered about because I've heard people have said, oh, well, if you have dark skin, why don't you just get white tattoos? That way you'll look like a fucking anime character or some crazy shit It's like it doesn't work that way it fades almost immediately and it also like you know doesn't it doesn't glow like the Orochi You know what I mean, so but it's great for just creating little Little contrast points in an otherwise like well planned out high contrast
Starting point is 01:31:05 piece you know so anyway that was really that was cool and the what else happened with that oh yeah I had a fun a great time on my way to the airport got in an uber got a lady who Was doing the thing where it's just kind of like five minutes away four minutes away three minutes away pulling up right there Look for the and I was like, okay, that's a lot. But okay, no problem I'd got out and was being like the kind Almost like overtly so like like I went to just open the door and she's like, oh no, no No, let me and kind of like ran in between to like open it forward. I was like, oh okay, thank
Starting point is 01:31:47 you, that's very very nice. I get it, you know. And then got in and so, you know, me and Punch Mom are getting ready to pull off and goes right down the street and, you know, in this overly polite manner, at the first intersection, just blows right through the red light. Just, just right through it. And turns. And like pedestrians are walking and people are, and it's, you know, like, it's a street. This fucking rules it's a street people are living life cars are coming and going you know and like I and I so punch mom goes uh excuse me and I kind of looked up and I saw it just as it was going and she's like yeah um that that was a red light and she's like uh-huh
Starting point is 01:32:43 what it's like that was you just you just turned right on a red light and she's like, uh-huh. What? It's like that was, you just, you just turned right on a red light and it was a pretty busy intersection. Like, you know, and she's like, Oh, I thought it was just a stop sign. And she's like, no, no, it was red. You know, that's, that's way more worrying than. Yeah, no, I blew through it. And it's that's way worse. and so and it's just like oh no no it's like okay you know so yeah could you please just like be careful about that that's you know it's like okay well here if you need anything you
Starting point is 01:33:17 know let me know here I've got I need you to follow the fucking rules lady you've got you know sanitizer or charge for your battery whatever and we're like, uh, no, we're good. That's fine and then It goes here. Well, here's a QR code if you ever need a car service my personal one you can just call this number directly instead of through the app and You can use you can kind of not gonna do that, You know, so everyone's like, yeah, cool, uh-huh. Anyways, whatever, right? And rest of it goes.
Starting point is 01:33:55 So just, that's like, anyway, whatever. Hey, hold on, before you continue, did she turn right on a red light, or just blow straight through an intersection? It was not right on a red light, which blow straight through it was it was it was not right On a red light, which is the questionable sometimes on the island off the island thing it was a it was left on a red light across The the lane going the opposite way That's why the craziest shit Omega turbo like left on a red light. Christ it would have been better
Starting point is 01:34:26 to just sail through. Turbo illegal. Not at all the right. No. So yeah. Anyway we're fucking getting to our flight so we just we don't get out we just go and You know I and whatever I get out and I'm like, okay well Take our shit and yeah, I'm like like Beyond the fucking insanity of that those that would have been a a normal if too polite ride Except for the part where you know almost fucking just careening off into the abyss occurred So there's a but there's a thing or just like illegal driving. That's yes. That is you know. But it's but it's interesting because like when I was talking to punch mom about it I was like yeah you know like the
Starting point is 01:35:16 last time when I had somebody in fact I might have brought it up here but like I had a driver that was like nodding off you know and it was when it was late at night, like between it was like a bumper to bumper. So he fortunately didn't have far to go between each stop. But it was just like this dude is like straight up just, you know, and I'm like, yeah, I'm good, actually. Just I'll get out. Hey, cool. I'll get out right here. Thank you. You know, and just like, what the fuck? Right. So that shit was terrifying already and now we have this bit where you have
Starting point is 01:35:52 This lady doing with this with the car so I'm like, okay, I bring I mentioned to punch mom Oh, yeah, so, you know last time this came up. I just got out and that was that right? Mm-hmm. So, uh Later on it's like and she's like, you know, but she's like, hey, well, you know, I said something and I was like, right Okay, you know and and that's that's the move. I get it. Although I'm like I definitely Like I just kind of said thanks. Let me out here. That's it. It's fine. But anyway, whatever. It's my account. We'll see Later that night. I get a thing that pops up with uber going Hey, we've gotten a report that says you were caught with illegal drugs in the back of an Uber
Starting point is 01:36:29 and you were driving, you were not allowed to be using drugs while sitting in an Uber that goes against community guidelines. So if this happens again, we'll be banning your account. Just no action to be taken, but just so you know, this is reported. And I'm like, oh, you fucking piece of shit, right? This is what it is. You have no recourse. And how dare we point out that you fucking did some insane shit. Didn't all you do go, hey, you blew a red? That's it. But then reporting it on, oh no,
Starting point is 01:37:09 you're trying to keep your perfect rating because you're trying to set up your independent business and you're trying to push that whole bit. And how dare someone report some insane shit you're doing. The type of brain that thinks it's a good idea to like, just go right into like, oh yeah, here, use my private service after I just did that shit, is not that smart.
Starting point is 01:37:32 So their whole thing is, well, fuck you then, how do I get back at you? Oh, you were fucking drugs, actually, that's what it was, cause there's nothing else, my profile is fine, I don't, you know, I have nothing else on it. So it's just like, so yeah, you get this automatic message that pops up. So I'm like, hey, um, can I like not have some bullshit on my account because this lady's lying. Her account,
Starting point is 01:37:54 she's clearly just trying to take revenge against the fact that I reported her for writing up for running a red and she's just trying to lash out and punish me for doing that. So can I get this not as a stain on my account where I have a fucking one strike to get banned thing? And they're like, so we don't just take one side of the story. We can thank you for giving your side and that's noted. However, that's it. Thank you for telling us there's
Starting point is 01:38:26 nothing else to do at this time. And you're just like, oh you fucking... Okay, so the problem is speaking up actually when that shit happens. The move is to just end, leave it, and like don't even give them the ability to think of you as a person that they can then go back after and target later, right? Because when the person who was fucking sleeping, when that happened, and I dealt with that, it was like, okay, I could have been one of any customers that day, you know, there was no targeted retaliation
Starting point is 01:38:59 versus pointing it out and putting a fucking mark on you, you know? And it only happened hours later that day, so well after she would have seen the response. Right. So that's fucking crazy that that's a thing that can happen. Well, there's only one solution to this, Will.
Starting point is 01:39:19 You gotta get your L. So one of the things that I've been doing my week is I went and got my driving packet. Ah. DC insurance. And there's only one thing of note. I'm planning to try and get my L this week or next week, probably next week. And I'm reading through my driving package. It tells me all the rules, right? And I'm reading this about what to do when you drive. How to drive a car, right?
Starting point is 01:39:52 And I'm, Paige is, you know, we're hanging out with baby and I keep doing this thing where I turn to Paige and I go, do other people know what's in this book? Because what I'm reading in my learner's permit package about how to drive does not gel with my life experience being in cars and watching other people drive. Yeah I mean if you're so I mean if you're somebody who like there's there's because I feel like there's the person who reads it, has it all fresh, you're a fresh student, you've got it all, and you're overly concerned almost, right? To a, you're overly cautious to a degree. And then there's the person who's like, I've been writing my dad's fucking civic since I was 14 or whatever, a kid, unofficially regardless, and this is just a formality to go get it later on, you know?
Starting point is 01:40:49 And they're already just kind of like rolling with whatever they're accustomed to. But yeah, that certainly is one way to deal with that. It fucking just sucks to have that like Like again, if you've got no retaliation ability whatsoever I mean you do you actually absolutely have huge retaliation ability, but you shouldn't sure not the way that you could Yes, perhaps perhaps no no no meet the uber driver like track to be dropping this week immediately followed by Not Like Us. But it's so fucking... People like that, man, that's the shit that just gets in your fucking craw, because it's like, you get very far in life being that piece of garbage, right?
Starting point is 01:41:40 The type of person who just does the absolute worst is 1000% in the wrong, but just never acknowledge it. And also, if anyone else dares to point that out, how dare they? You know? Anyway, so that was fucking great. Had that. I'll see whatever happens, but I mean, hey, if it's been a fucking decade of that report not ever popping up on my account Hopefully that doesn't happen again, but like we'll you know we'll see what the what this leads to for another piece of shit I Get it gets encountered at some point
Starting point is 01:42:21 What a fucking bitch it's crazy It's crazy, and I'm that just makes me like double down on like Because I made a joke with with punch mom I'm just like oh, it's not your account. It's mine. Ha ha, but I'm like now. I'm like no actually Don't even like telling the person is Actually like the the wrong move the right move is to and get out and then just deal with that shit later Or go crazy. Or that. Or go crazy on it.
Starting point is 01:42:48 But I mean, depends how you want to live your life. Yeah. Just tweet it at them. Yeah, I wouldn't. So if I got actually banned, then I would like take it to that point. At this point, it's just like it's they said there's nothing really there. There's no invisible. I can't see the one strike of two anywhere or anything. So who the fuck knows anyway all right so in Texas speaking of being on the road so that was that was one thing and then the other bit was just
Starting point is 01:43:18 like looking out the window and punch mom's taking a nap and I'm like wake up wake up wake up wake up look just like huh what's going on it's a fucking cyber truck oh my goodness you saw one in the flesh right up driving up and I'm like oh my god I'm gonna record that shit those motherfucking things got recalled record or like recorded that shit side and she's like oh god oh wow I was just like Jesus Christ she's like you scared me I thought there was an accident and she's like oh god. Oh wow. I was just like Jesus Christ. She's like you scared me I thought there was an accident, and I'm like there's about to be
Starting point is 01:43:49 Yeah, right, okay. Yeah, so you know um It's like where is he going? Hopefully the fucking recall center because uh But it turns out that where it was going was the same place we were going, which was over to Top Golf. And so that's where I took a picture, posted up, you know, bless, survived, taking a picture next to the Cybertruck. I couldn't tell whether or not it was locked into sixth gear, you know, the... Like just that extra gear shift at the bottom of the pedal but We but yeah, they pulled up there and I went to a golf driving range. It's pretty fun
Starting point is 01:44:34 I have not you've been driving range before so no however This is the weirdest thing the sentence sentence is so stupid. Okay. I'm ready. I took golf in college. What? You did? Yes. So as part of the, when you're doing your electives and you're taking different things,
Starting point is 01:44:56 you could choose what kind of classes and one of the classes- I don't know, Dawson had a fucking golf elective. There was a golf gym class that you could choose. So I picked golf and I was like, that gym class that you could choose so I picked golf and I was like that where did you go for that to the gym when you do fucking hit balls in the gym it was a lot of classroom learning about golf and then there was hitting the balls in the gym and working on the swing and the put and the different elements yeah no that's bullshit no driving range is
Starting point is 01:45:23 totally different you want to launch that shit. Exactly But this is what I took and this is where I learned about golf, you know, so I Seeing that on the list. I'm like that seems crazy This is so far outside of anything by in but this is so far outside my wheelhouse of what I expected classes to be In college and I'm like, yeah, fuck why not? Yeah, let's go nuts. Let's see what that's about, right? And there was also, I want to say there was a cooler class that was, like I think there
Starting point is 01:45:55 was like an MMA type training thing that was already taken. So yeah, I did a fucking golf class and you know kind of just learned about the Form and the putting in this swinging and the nine irons and all that shit anyway That was like 20 fucking years ago So when here, I don't remember any of that shit But it's a lot of fun to just swing and fucking hit a ball as far as you can into the distance Oh, yeah, man every night like even if you're a total amateur and you fucking get that good that one good swing and fucking hit a ball as far as you can into the distance. Oh yeah man. Every night, like even if you're a total amateur and you fucking get that one good swing and
Starting point is 01:46:27 you launch that shit a couple hundred yards, aw it rules. Yeah. No I didn't pick golf over MMA. The MMA class was full. I couldn't get in. Yeah, because Crazy Alex was in there. He took the last spot. He literally was.
Starting point is 01:46:44 He literally was. He literally was. Yes. So, anyway, that was, that was, that was, that was fun. Yeah, like, there's a whole lot of fucking just pathetic ass like little, you swing super hard and watch it go, right? Yeah, and then you're like, oh, everyone saw, right? Or I, or the nice, or you can do the little trick, which is like, do a really horrible swing and whiff,
Starting point is 01:47:08 but just pretend it was a practice. Just, whew. Just, oh yeah, no, almost got it. Hold on, let me just. Like as long as you don't just bury the thing into the dirt and bend your fucking rod, you're fine. Yeah, and when you're on the second floor too, like there's a little net that you can fall over
Starting point is 01:47:22 and like, you know, try not to eat shit and get saved. So, um, oh, you did the second floor? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's fun, but it's scary. It's a little scary, but it was cool. It was cool. You know, but yeah, I know I managed to like, hit it pretty far a couple of times and that felt good. I was like that's the type of thing you can do with a lot of open space. I will say like in a, in a giant state where you have to drive, super long to get anywhere and do anything. And there's not a whole lot of like walking around You when you need to capitalize on open space something like that is very possible Yeah, dude driving ranges are so much fun But they also they represent like the absolute worst part of fucking macho golf mentality stupid shit
Starting point is 01:48:03 Or it's like man. I can look at how big my fucking driver is I can launch this shit Right hundred yards. Okay, okay, dad your putting sucks You blow like five fucking strokes on the green you get the green in one Wow This is also set up for like very casual sort of like easy going like you know mat rounds because it's like bowling where you pick a lane and then you just you know they you can order food and just sit there and play like you don't have to bring your own clubs or anything they've got a bunch of the clubs there that you can just grab and go and then you can order food and then just sit and swing and they had
Starting point is 01:48:39 all these different games you could play on it too so I managed though there's one in one of the games we played or I managed to win, it was pretty sick. I got the points and I was like, yeah, I can do this. And then there was like an Angry Birds one where you're swinging the ball at a virtual Angry Birds tower. I don't know about this. And it detects where the ball is going and knocks over the structure so that you can see the...
Starting point is 01:49:03 Imagine just swinging, flinging in Angry Birds game, except when it flings out, it's where you swing, you know? So it corresponds to the targets that you swing at. Yeah, golf's lame as fuck, but it's actually fun to play. Absolutely. It's really chill. Exactly, and that was my takeaway from the class that I took too, was like, oh wow, this is a lot funner to do than it is to watch.
Starting point is 01:49:24 Yeah, I wanna hang out on like a nice park and drink beers and ride around a little cart and then hit a ball It's fun So yeah, that was dope Checked out they have a thing called cider cage down there, which is a it's an arcade that is also a cidery That's my shit. I arcade that is also a cidery that's my shit I love that is about as like part of me expected there to be more twist than it literally being exactly what you'd said I love cider I love arcades it was exactly that and there was a great time not much else to say there is a board game that was a lot of fun and yeah, just like this thing
Starting point is 01:50:09 that is, there's a lot of times where I'm like, I want to try out a bunch of board games and I hear about cool shit and I've gotten a bunch that I want to plan to do maybe stuff in the future with. But set up and onboarding is always really treacherous. I talked last time when we played some games with the neighbors as well about, I was like, yeah, that was a lot of fun, but boy, you have to really kind of be in. And a lot of the times too, if you're a board game person, the more complex things are, the more you kind of enjoy it.
Starting point is 01:50:33 That's where a lot of your fun is kicking in. But there's a game we played that was so simple and so fucking good, and the premise is this. It's called Monster Voice, right? Off I go. Have you ever seen the cartoon, Ah, Real Monsters? Yeah, I've seen a lot of monsters. Remember those little freaky fucking weird hairy things and all the little...
Starting point is 01:50:52 Yeah, I remember that freak. Right. I got that. Okay. All the monsters in that, imagine little like shitty kids drawings of monsters like that, right? And you have them on little cards. You put nine of them down on the table, and then there's a phrase, everyone has to do a voice of one of the monster's drawings on the table, and you take turns trying to guess which monster voice you're doing. So you see one little flat weird goofy one, there's a little robotic short weirdo, there's one
Starting point is 01:51:25 that's kind of like Bubsy but he looks like he's dying, right? And it's just simple. You just try to make dumb monster voices and people have to figure out which character you're doing. Great. Solid. Real fun. If they guess correctly, you get a point, they get a point.
Starting point is 01:51:43 And then you continue taking turns. I definitely, definitely vouch for this. And the drawings are fun. They're little good, cute, simple monsters. Ummm... Okay. I looked it up and can't find it. I think you have to get it straight from the official site. And, you know, I guess as long as it's available. and can't find it. I think you have to get it straight from the official site.
Starting point is 01:52:06 And you know, as I guess as long as it's available. I got mine right away. It's one of those things where as soon as I did that I'm like, oh yeah, I'm ordering this. Because yeah, yeah, a bunch of shit that like fucking that happened like multiple times where I'm like, I'm getting this game that fuck that. That was great. Played a little rock band.
Starting point is 01:52:22 I'm like, I miss rock band. Let me get that new guitar. Sure. That's in Fortnite now, apparently. And yeah, that was cool. And there's a, yeah, there's some stuff that's down in Texas. Like there's a place we went to called the Truckyard, which apparently there's a lot of these things.
Starting point is 01:52:43 Because last time I went to like a barbecue kind of spot and and I kind of you know saw what that was about and this is just kind of like a bunch of So remember that fight member the Mariah fight and start us Crusaders with the fuck out planted Cadillacs in the ground imagine that on purpose just look as a as a As if they were a Shinto shrine, but instead of the gates instead of torii gates it's planted Cadillacs and cars and they say Americans have no culture right it was so weird to walk down a path of an open park and just see all that and then you're in a you're in a little yard where there's a bunch of food trucks there's a bunch of beer stops and stations and a bunch of chairs and things that are made out of car parts and you sit That's great. You sit on car parts while you drink a beer and you have you know
Starting point is 01:53:35 Whatever you're having some barbecue some some pulled pork some tacos some sausage on a stick Whatever the case is and you're just fucking that is America happening yeah and then someone's playing live music because of course they are I was like damn okay I see this is a thing that was that there's a fun a fun a fun chill vibe and you know that's a nice place to just kind of spend a Friday night or whatever and Then I went over to Austin and
Starting point is 01:54:08 That's the busier town and it also just happened to be Cinco de Mayo weekend, which I've always heard about but didn't really know like kind of much of the deal since you know Apparently means the May 5th weekend. Yeah, and and apparently it's kind of just this Like it's a thing where like, yeah, most Mexicans kind of really don't give a fuck. Like in Mexico they celebrate their Independence Day on proper Mexican Independence Day, which is not Cinco de Mayo.
Starting point is 01:54:33 So it's just kind of like a sort of a touristy white getting drunk bar hopping thing. So it's like, yeah, there's not a, there's like, it's like, yeah, you can, but. Listen, the Fourth of July is two months away. I need to get drunk now. You know, it ain't, it's not, it's like, yeah, you can, but meh. Listen, the 4th of July is two months away. I need to get drunk now. You know, it's not, it's totally just this, it's not the thing that they care about, you know.
Starting point is 01:54:53 Which I learned, as Sheena explained. So yeah, I went to go hang out with Sheena. I hope she's well. And doing well. And, you know, checked out the Cidercade on that side as well, just to see how that was doing. And then, after multiple times. Doing well and you know checked out the side arcade on that side as well just to see how that was doing and then after multiple times I've when I went down to the Florida convention the other day and got the the
Starting point is 01:55:15 Gotta the the beaver nuggets delivered and I got the Hatsune Miku, but it's a beaver logo Buc-ee's thing. I'm like, what is this religious experience people are saying, you have to go to Buc-ee's, you have to go to Buc-ee's, right? Yeah, what's up with Buc-ee's? I don't get it. So, of course, so Sheena's like, yeah, you gotta go to Buc-ee's. So we're like, alright, let's go. And you get in and you drive and it's a ways out
Starting point is 01:55:39 because they're always like in, they're not in the cities, they're a little bit further out from the city. And you walk in and it's like, like in they're not in the cities they're a little bit further out from the city and you walk in and it's like it is just the most it's the ultimate consumer experience you think about consumers and you pull up to this giant fucking parking lot and there are 50 gas station pumps going into the horizon and all like just imagine a gas station but there's just infinite pumps and everyone's put getting their gas there because that's how you do it and then there's this little fucker this little this little this little beaverucky, is there on everything.
Starting point is 01:56:25 And he's inviting you to the ultimate consumer experience, which is walking into something the size of like a giant Costco, you know? But with no tall dividing barriers or aisles, you just feel like you're looking at like a football field ass fucking Like shopping experience. It just goes you're look the back wall is way the fuck over there. It's insane And Everything they sell
Starting point is 01:56:59 Has their own brand on it. They have their own branded fucking cup, shirt, whatever you need. It's all Bucky's oriented and it's like they make their own. They have their own snacks which are these beaver nuggets I described which are like the corn pops. They have a wall of every kind of candy of every kind of... You need like 18 kinds of trail mix. they got you covered on that. You can walk in and say, hey guys, let's have a barbecue, or let's go camping. And you can drive up there with no camping gear whatsoever,
Starting point is 01:57:33 and then get all of it there, and then pull out, and there's no problem. They have a million kinds of jerky, but then fuck that, there's the actual fresh jerky counter where they're making it right there or you can get like the you know flavors as as as fresh as it gets right next to the barbecue pulled pork you know whatever sandwich counter is which and then in the back if you need to get tactical you can go with your Bucky's Tactical, where they have their fucking, like,
Starting point is 01:58:09 hunting salt lick, like deer attracting things. And I mean, there's, dude, I sorta got, like, here. Let me just, give me a minute. You can- This looks like, it looks like the inside of a South Park episode. Yeah, mate! I don't understand.
Starting point is 01:58:26 When you go to Bucky's, man, you can... Like so here is a... I got... Why are so many people in this video I'm watching wearing flags? Oh yeah, we got our Bucky's rash guard over here. You know, American flag, full camo, and the goddamn beaver. Flag camo, but also flag. You know why.
Starting point is 01:58:52 I don't. Right? I got me my proper mug. I got me my proper sip. We're doing it. It's all there. The beaver's everywhere. The beaver himself walks out.
Starting point is 01:59:04 I took photos. Me and Bucky. Is this only in Texas? It's mainly in Texas, but it's starting to spread out because I remember hearing about it when we were in Florida and there was someone in Florida that was like, oh, you got to go. But it's mainly a Texas thing. They're spreading out though. They're starting to move it out. And so I'll tell you, I didn't go down with a bag that I planned to come back with but when I when I acquired this one I'll tell you when they got my attention as you look over there this is when they got my
Starting point is 01:59:38 attention what is that this is a Delta kite oh my fucking god this is a Delta kite. Oh my fucking god. This is a Delta kite with Bucky on it Motherfucker I Got a new kite for the collection and that's ready to go You know um It's the realest shit now. Here's the thing they have, there's a sign on the wall that says like they're world famous, right? They're world famous cotton candy, they're world famous roasted nuts where they've got them right there.
Starting point is 02:00:14 Oh man, that's great. Right? World famous bathrooms. World famous bathrooms? The place is notable for many things. One of them is that the bathrooms are the cleanest, the biggest, the most spaced out, with tons of individual stalls, tons of urinals. Every sink has all its own amenities that you would need to dry, hand wash, sanitize. This is wild claim. Goaded bathrooms, the likes of which I've never seen,
Starting point is 02:00:50 that mean you never even have to remotely even see another person almost the way it's set up. It's like you do, but you never have to touch anybody or get close to the bumper to bumper traffic you can get at conventions sometimes. There's a lot of times I remember getting in in line at like a pax bathroom or some shit where you're just butts to nuts squeezing sideways across you know to get in and use a I've literally fucked my ass up by having to deal with like a bad public bathroom
Starting point is 02:01:19 You just run into a situation. We're like you know what I'm just gonna hold it And you do that enough times and you have a problem. They actually have, as a major point, is big, spacious, clean, awesome bathrooms that are always kept clean. And it's just, again, the ultimate in consumer. And walking in, I'm like, you know what? I fucking get it. Now I understand why everyone's like, no, you gotta go though, right?
Starting point is 02:01:51 You have other, again, Japan will tell you go hike this mountain, get to a shrine, and see the view at the top. America's like, go shop at fucking Buc-E's. Drive up to a big gas station, because everything's bigger in Texas. Stand next to the truck with the logo on it, you're gonna want that shit, you know? And sure enough, you absolutely do. So,
Starting point is 02:02:14 yeah, no, that was it. And, you know, also, on the way out and in, there's a sign right there that says, hey, we're hiring, here's all the positions, we pay a higher rate than a lot of other places. Here's exactly what each position pays, which is- Oh, that fucking rules.
Starting point is 02:02:30 And if you want to get a job, just call us. And it's like, you just see like, yeah, from beginning to whatever, system manager, ba-da-da-da-da, and then the actual thing. And it's just like, yeah, if you want to make your way and get paid possibly, you can get to a middle position there and get a six-figure digit or something like that. It was just like, oh shit, they just straight up tell you what every position is.
Starting point is 02:02:54 So wow. Wow about that. Nice little detail there. Yeah. I feel like I've seen the light and That's why I'm currently enjoying You know my Bucky's t-shirt and I've of course when I want to go swimming, you know, you gotta you gotta Gotta buck up. So we're good to go and
Starting point is 02:03:22 um, I Would I'm now interested in seeing where else I could find a Bucky's. And I heard that the one I went to was a particularly good one. So I'm going to temper my expectations a little bit, but if anything, I'll just enjoy all the more when I get to the next one. But yeah, knucker buck, baby. Knucker buck. Oh. Oh. I hate that. Oh, shit. I don't like it. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:03:52 The ultimate, ultimate consumerism experience. It's pretty, pretty strong. Um. And, uh, you know, that kind of is more or less the bit. I mean, it was also, again, just to reiterate, while to be having this experience, while Kendrick has been dropping throughout this entire time, and just everybody out on the streets and catching it,
Starting point is 02:04:16 playing, jumping in. Nothing but. And it's like there's a moment of everyone like, oh, hey, did, ah, and He dropped again what you know and again I fully Took advantage of the fact that I'm like I am Canadian I can tell you I can tell you what it's like You know we are not behind that do a lot of people don't like Drake So yeah shoutouts shoutouts Tejas and
Starting point is 02:04:49 You know Ivan yeah, I've it like was curious, so I took a little walk down, there's a, Sixth Street is kind of like the main spot that is like, hey, there's a bunch of fun things you can see, and also keep your head on a swivel, and also don't be there late at night, and also World Star, and also, you know what, maybe consider staying on one side of the map and don't go past this point and yadda yadda. And I kind of went and saw there's like a, a bit of a street festival that was going on and a little bit of, you know, like walking and shot and, and, you know, like, oh, you can shop and there's some tents set up in the streets.
Starting point is 02:05:22 And that was all nice. And then I got one block After that ended I walked just across the street and saw a gas station fight going. I was like That's what I was looking for And I was like, okay we did it we got it But yeah, it was nice was fun. And of course throughout this bunch of places that were recommended to go eat as well I, you know, had some good food all around and you know that happened in the background too. So yeah, fun stuff, good trip. Shoutouts to Sheena and Austin and Skelly V and stuff and yeah, that was my big America trip. This tattoo is healing okay, crusting trusting a little bit but that's normal. It's supposed to do that
Starting point is 02:06:09 right? It's supposed to do that. And that's pretty much the deal so you know with me beyond that so I'm gonna be this week picking back up there's a couple of yes so Reggie has a couple of busy days so we're not gonna come back on the regular schedule but we're gonna throw in a Friday to make up for the fact that we've been gone for a bit I've got a finish off ff16 DLC to the rising tide did the first half of that Leviathan is a cool power I appreciate hate baby as the main focal point of that plot. There is a baby filled with hatred. It is very upset and it has very good reason to be. And you get access to this Leviathan power.
Starting point is 02:07:00 Which is, you know how like, it basically is like, you have some abilities that were kinda like Bahamut or Odin, which were like the zoning tools. I didn't like them that much. And Leviathan feels like the best feeling of those. It's still not perfect for me, but it's way cooler and funner than the other zoning things. You have a gun, you have a full on gun with you. And you can-
Starting point is 02:07:24 It's just a gun. And its abilities include things like being able to put out like a... You put out like a satellite but you shoot at it and it redirects the shots and like... Oh, I like that. ...does a heavy focus fire on something. Big laser, of course, multiple targets, all that shit. It's great. And it's a reload system with a Gears of War style, you know, optimized moment for tactical reloading. But if you dodge, you also get a dodge reload. You know, so...
Starting point is 02:07:53 Oh, okay. Yeah. You know, it's pretty well thought out. And I have, in particular, some of the main gun stuff, I, like, I'm probably not going to keep on my main rotation particular, some of the main gun stuff, I'm probably not gonna keep on my main rotation, but some of its unique abilities are worth pulling out. So yeah, gonna finish off The Rising Tide part two, as well as gonna resume some, yeah, cause of Zero, and yeah, this week we're gonna take a look at Hades too, cause that shit dropped,
Starting point is 02:08:21 and I wanna fucking see what's going on with it. So it'll be a short and sweet Wednesday Thursday Friday stream and then yeah Reggie's busy Saturday So we're gonna be off then but that'll be over on wooly versus on Twitch and on YouTube All right, I need to take a little bit of a break. Yes, that was a long where we segue into the rest of it That was a long run. Let's do it BRB Nice fucking sick All right that fucking rules
Starting point is 02:08:55 Well, he is wearing a novelty Buc-he's beaver hat Right now covers his whole head Hat you say oh wait. that's a hood on the whole fucking outfit oh that's interesting that's uh oh that's great wait is that a whole pajama set what do you oh my god are you in a fucking fursuit that's interesting are you in a fucking beaver fursuit I got I got I got I got beaver nugs and jerky beef inside my DNA oh Man he's got it real bad
Starting point is 02:09:33 You know well I'd be honest If you had to if you had to ask me last week which of us would be most likely to show up on stream wearing some kind of animal costume First it would have definitely been me I would have taken that bet most likely to show up on stream wearing some kind of animal costume first would have definitely been me. I would have taken that bet. Yeah you would have. Yeah. But if you were to ask me if the cost of showing up on stream in an animal costume would have been under $30. Wait seriously, this was like 25 bucks Dude, that's fucking crazy. It was insane like I was walking away going okay. That's ridiculous. We're not gonna do the bit. I'm like
Starting point is 02:10:16 Wait that thing is 24 bucks That's fucking stupid. That's crazy. That's of course. I'm buying the goddamn Bucky's Kegu. What are we doing here? That's crazy. That's of course. I'm buying the goddamn Bucky's Kegu. What are we doing here? That's kind of awesome and because it's America. They've got all kinds of sizes so of course they've cut Marca. I can fit it's great Yeah, there you go That's awesome Barely 30 bucks on the bit all right Absolute deal Alright word from our sponsors. I love our fucking sponsors. Yeah, just let's
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Starting point is 02:16:10 today literally today Has started responding to page in baby sign language. Hey, oh, yeah, that's Right okay, so I've heard so you saw us doing that yeah I've heard that that's like the new that's some new really good tech for like getting You can get kids like to be non verbally communicating even before words are coming out right yeah, cuz words are hard You can practice that right really cool, but hands are easier so Page this is the one this is the most common phrase said to the baby is Do you want milk and you do the little squeeze thing with your hand? Right basically are you hungry right and he has started doing it back when he is hungry
Starting point is 02:16:55 So we can now are you mad because of whatever or you just hungry and he will now tell us So fucking cool If he is hungry like because like everything like I feel like we all kind of grew up thinking of like, oh, when you start to be able to form words is when you start to have thoughts, which is not what's happening. No, that's not true. But it feels like, oh, you're communicating because you've gotten to that point, you know, and it's like the thoughts happen way earlier.
Starting point is 02:17:20 You're able to like communicate like or not have thoughts, but to be able to communicate, right? Earlier you're able to like communicate like or not have thoughts but to be able to communicate right like you know You can actually get fucking yeah like gestures, and you can get like sign language signing out much earlier. That's so sick Like so this is great news because there was a minor Kerfuffle with the baby's development over the past month. So at our local community center, there is a lady that comes by every couple of weeks, maybe once a month, and she checks out all the babies that go to the, you know, the mom groups, right?
Starting point is 02:17:56 She has like a special thing that is like, hey, I'm gonna come in, talk about baby development, what's appropriate for what months of baby development, and I will check out your baby and tell you if your baby is doing well on their milestones or maybe a little bit behind on their milestones or very behind on their milestones if you know there's an issue. Right? So Paige, I was not able to go to the last one. So Paige went with baby Gauron by herself and spoke to the lady who informed her, unfortunately,
Starting point is 02:18:29 that baby Gauron was a little bit behind on some of his gross motor skills. Like the crawling and the sitting and that kind of stuff, little bit behind. So we're a little upset about that, a little worried about it. However, upon us talking about that at length, I was like, okay, Paige, wait, what did you, what, how old did you tell her the baby was?
Starting point is 02:18:54 And she started counting off the weeks, right? In a week since birth. And I started counting off the months because I go by his birthday. If you could believe it, weeks to months starts to completely fall apart after a certain age because four weeks don't necessarily equal a month. As far as I heard, that's what pregnancy is like as well, right? Yeah, and that first 20 weeks after after they're born weeks are more useful Right two months turns into not four clean weeks necessarily. Yeah, so we discovered
Starting point is 02:19:34 Paige you told her that the baby was a month older than he was Evaluation was. Oh. His evaluation. Oh. So a couple of days ago I went with Paige with the baby and our boy was going ah and sitting up by himself and crawling around and rolling around and shit and she said oh actually he's ahead. Well there you go. Now that we have the right amount of months. Okay. Because his general motor skills are normal, but his fine motor skills, which is, you know, pinching and
Starting point is 02:20:14 grabbing items, is actually ahead. Than the average baby. So there was a bit of a huh, ah, did we fuck it? No. No, actually it's going well now as much as we all love a journey under the bus It's real comfy down there that is a very reasonable easy mistake to make because measurements of time We are used to thinking about oh, yeah, well four weeks month. What's the difference? You know well? Hey wooly right now?
Starting point is 02:20:44 What's 35 weeks in? Yeah, exactly exactly that's that's the that's the problem and week to week the way things actually develop is like Yeah, that's a different metric you're tracking um every time you know so here's here's a great one whenever I post the schedule up I have to go April week one week two week two, week three, and around the time. It doesn't work that way. It doesn't work that way though. Exactly, exactly. Around the time we get to like week four,
Starting point is 02:21:10 and it's like wait, but there's another three days left before the next one. I'm like is. Yeah, it's April, week five. Week five. And May, week one. Or May, and it gets messy every time, so yes. But this is something I've been looking at each time.
Starting point is 02:21:24 So 100%, it's a different metric. get it I super get it very very very very easy to make mistake so baby's a genius that's good good that baby's a genius how do you even I guess like I mean I'm sure you can learn online about like how the process goes but like yeah like the starting to get signing in like how does that work? That's so cool. You just do it every single time. When you say the words, you make a hand,
Starting point is 02:21:49 just associate a gesture. For like eight months now, not when Baby was like a potato, not in the potato form, right? But every time Baby was like aware of his surroundings at all, she would go, are you hungry? Do you want milk?
Starting point is 02:22:05 And she would do it. Yeah. Every single time. You saw her do it when we were hanging out with you. Just every single time. Okay. And that's the most important one because if he's hungry for milk, I'm out of options. Right? Yeah. But if he's like wants to go outside or get cold air or he's too hot or whatever, I can just run through the checklist of things that piss Baby off, but I can't give him my boobies. It don't work that way. So like what I'm curious is like about is like,
Starting point is 02:22:38 so you have that first one and you get that going and you sign that as you say it. Do you then upon confirmation of you've gotten a word out and then you're seeing it back. Yay! So now you go for a second one at that period of time? Or do you let that first one set in? Is there a way to?
Starting point is 02:22:58 No, no, the first, yeah, you just continue to do it. And you build on top of that first one. The next one would be more, which is you tap your fingers together like this for more. Which he's starting to eat solids. So that would apply for that. And then there's mama and dada. And mama is you touch your thumb, your chin,
Starting point is 02:23:20 with your fingers open. And dada is you touch the top of your forehead. So I can tell you with certainty that he knows what mama means. 100%. Can't do the sign. It's a little too advanced for his fingers. But if I ask him, hey, where's mama? He starts to, and I'm holding him, he starts to spin around and go, where, where, where, where, where? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay, okay, okay. Interesting. Yeah, because I guess that's the thing is before he's doing it back, he's still understanding what the thing you're doing is, which also helps with the linguistic element of it.
Starting point is 02:23:55 I'm also teaching him, I use the dog and the cat, which are great, by the way, because babies just fucking flail and the kid just slaps my shit, likeaps my shit like right in the eyes and you saw me get kicked right in the eye At your place So but the dog and cat work really well for a gentle gentle because the dogs got that big fat ugly face That the baby can't damage So I have the baby like touch the dog's face and if he slaps
Starting point is 02:24:27 the dog's shit a little bit, doesn't matter, dog won't do anything. I'm like no no no no shh gentle on the dog. Right? And the cat has been excellent for crawling because the cat really likes the baby but the cat only likes to get pet by the baby literally once like one swipe so what we do is we'll put the we'll put the the baby in the middle of the bed and the cat gets on the bed and the baby will crawl to the cat pet the Cat the cat will move to the other fucking end of the bed and the baby will spin Ah to crawl over to pet the cat and the baby the dead cat will leave and go to the other side of bed trick like that training mechanism the cat will leave and go to the other side of the bed. Like that. Training mechanism. Okay.
Starting point is 02:25:06 Yeah, so but you can. Oh, it's great. You can actually stack them up and then like even before the communicating element, there's the like, I understand what you're doing. That's fucking interesting. That's so cool. Also, so we have a human child
Starting point is 02:25:20 and we don't want an iPad child. Don't want that. That's terrifying. You've seen it, we've all seen it, it's a nightmare, right? So the only time the kid ever interacts with screens is if I'm watching him and I'm playing some low stimulus shit like Dragon's Dogma or something like that,
Starting point is 02:25:35 or if we have to do something in the house for any length of time that, neither of us can hold the baby right now, baby has to go live in the pit. We have a big gigantic playpen for him, we call it the pit. Put the baby right now. Baby has to go live in the pit. We have a big gigantic playpen for him. We call it the pit. Put the baby in the pit and baby can watch 10 minutes of Miss Rachel, which if you don't
Starting point is 02:25:51 know about Miss Rachel, you can go look it up. She's a speech therapist. Sorry, she does speech therapy for babies. It's great. But what we've noticed is that since that's the baby's only exposure, I'll put on Miss Rachel and leave to go do the dishes and come back. The kid doesn't even necessarily watch the fucking TV! He's happy that the TV is on and that Miss Rachel is around,
Starting point is 02:26:17 but he's playing with his toys and ignoring the giant screen next to him. Okay, okay. And he's ignoring our phones and he's not and we went out to dinner he's not swiping for himself of course no yeah no and we went out we went out to we went out to dinner and he didn't have an iPad he didn't have our phones I just bounced him on my knee and talked to him and a lady came up to us and told us how well behaved our baby was. How about that?
Starting point is 02:26:45 Who was sitting at a different table. How about that? Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I'm like, yes! Don't let the baby get horribly addicted to iPad. I mean, again, just seeing the like, the dream swiping while it's crying and things like that. I've seen videos of those that are so scary.
Starting point is 02:27:00 I have seen children my baby's age with phones in their hands and it is fucked. And the thing is, I remember the last time I brought this up too where it's like, okay, I know when I see that shit it's like this is bad. We don't even have all the data but you can just feel inside. It's clearly not good. This is not going to have good ramifications, especially considering how full grown adults are getting their attention spans fucked up, right? and
Starting point is 02:27:28 I remember hearing back when I was like parents that were like yo, dude, you don't know what it's like and Like you have to understand there are times when we just like it's the only thing it's the only way to stop the true Right. We were prepared if the baby started to lose his mind on the plane to pull the phone out with Miss Rachel to calm him down. So knowing that is there, I always have a little bit of like, I know, I feel like this is really, this sucks, but there's a level of like, if you tell me, look man,
Starting point is 02:28:01 I know, but this is the only, I'm like, I'm not there. I'm not losing sleep. I'm not in a situation where I've been through what you've been through. So I can empathize with the fact that you might just hit a wall and be like, God damn it, fine. This will stop it for now. You know? There are times where you have to have an emergency, that you have to be willing to
Starting point is 02:28:20 admit an emergency. The plane is the only one we've encountered because the plane is a situation we can't leave. Right, you're stuck, yeah, yeah. We can't leave, can't leave the plane. Not, well, we shouldn't, shouldn't, shouldn't leave the plane. So there's just that level of like, eh, when you know, when you fucking,
Starting point is 02:28:38 yeah, you might get to a situation where you might, the walls might break down, but until then, if you have an option, you gotta go with the other options man yeah for sure I saw someone yell we have the data is it is it exactly what it's bad you assume it is really bad okay it it screws up it screws up dopamine and serotonin receptors to basically it's like a drug. You know, like the developmental years with like, the shit that it's doing to us, again, in adulthood now,
Starting point is 02:29:11 and needing to have fucking subway surfing footage with a bunch of soap being cut up while someone just talks to keep your attention span locked in. I can't believe. You know, that in your formatives? Like what? I mean shit, Wully, I'm reading the chat and scrolling through Twitter right now. Or else I get too understimulated to have this long conversation. That's crazy. I'm an adult!
Starting point is 02:29:37 That's great. So the times when you've like, had like, booted up shit games in the past, Mid Pod and shit like that, that was not the case at the beginning, right? Like that developed over time. Yeah. Okay, okay. Because the anxiety was so high in the beginning that I couldn't do a different task. Okay, I feel- Because when we started the podcast, I was very anxious.
Starting point is 02:29:57 Yeah, I feel like there's, I don't know what the like, the TikTok sort of like, is there a way to downgrade your attention if that's the way you feel? When I saw that, I talked about that post where there was a police officer that was saying, hey guys, this year, this is just an anti-drug driving message, everyone please be safe during the holidays, whatever. And then it showed the cop talking, and then it showed a cop in Minecraft walking around, just being a police officer in Minecraft.
Starting point is 02:30:37 And it was like, people were like, this is an official video that has to have a little attention grabber up there, and then people in the comments were like yeah Our attention spans are broken. We can't listen to someone just talk about it You know like how do you my D? How do you dismount from this? You know well you can't but my attention spans been broken my whole life, so that's not really a good example If I'm not hyper fixating on something to the point of like Absurdity then I need to be doing five tasks at once. So like for example, if I go out,
Starting point is 02:31:13 so I took the baby out in a stroller and we just went on a nice walk, right? I didn't listen to music. I didn't do, I just, we just went on a really nice walk. Because the goal was have a nice relaxing walk Right That was what I was fixated on it was a beautiful day air was good Etc right
Starting point is 02:31:35 But like when I'm when I'm talking to somebody talking is not enough It's never enough. I need more. Okay, I need more information in my head, okay? What happens if you don't have an answer to that like if a kid for example is? Like looking for that more, and then you just don't give it to them. You know oh Well, I mean, I'm not an expert I just read a little bit So one of the kid needs more stimulation. And you don't you can't, you know, you don't have a phone or whatever you give them
Starting point is 02:32:15 Give them a key to play with. Okay, or a fidget spinner or Let them get the Jimmy legs. Okay, Jimmy legs. Yeah, you mentioned that before. Jimmy legs starts to happen. Okay, yeah. Man, that's, that's, oh, yeah, all right. Jangle the keys in front of them.
Starting point is 02:32:42 It's you know, I like if it's something that's like this is just, you know, some people are just like that's how you are from the jump and you know, I, like, if it's something that's like, this is just, you know, some people are just like, that's how you are from the jump and, you know, your attention span is the way it is and stuff. The thing that scares me is when someone didn't have it and then got that way because of scrolling. I've literally always wanted more my whole life. I cannot get enough streams of data in my head fast enough. Punch Mom has been, I've talked to her about it, how she's like, I'm more impatient now from browsing TikTok. She's like, yeah, she didn't have it before. She could lock in,
Starting point is 02:33:18 read a book, whatever, do a thing. And she's like, now I do feel like I want other things going on in a way that she didn't a couple years ago You know that's though. That's where I'm like. Oh, no, that's so That's a trick to that's the grenade. There's a there's a genuine trick to that and it's it's it's it's it's very difficult to under to Make sure that causes and effects are going in the right direction. You may be reading an effect as a cause. So, if you are somebody with, let's say,
Starting point is 02:33:51 undiagnosed attention deficit, right? And it turns out, you just like, your brain's all over and you need all these sources of stimulation to focus, right? But you didn't know that, right? But you didn't know that, right? So you didn't do that as a kid, and you do it now. Was that because you were stimulated by these new things and you were taught to do this?
Starting point is 02:34:17 Like you got TikTok brain? Or is it that at some point this happened and you're like, oh, my brain works better under these new circumstances than they did when I was younger. Okay, I see. I guess it depends on the task, right? It depends on what you're being asked to do at the time. But yeah, if it's actually, oh, these were subpar conditions until now and then you get to that.
Starting point is 02:34:37 I mean, I would say- The reason I use TikTok is because I need memes and dog videos faster. Right. I've never been happy with the speed of memes and dog videos using the regular internet. And now it goes fast as my thumb. I can say this, right? Anytime I've been able to enter something resembling flow state, it has been by just being focused exclusively on the one thing, like I'm talking just to you and that's it and there's no other outside thing. If you're able to do that by having other things, then
Starting point is 02:35:16 that is an optimal outcome that you should probably lean into. I'd say like so whichever lets you do that more is best for your configuration. Yeah. But anyway, super high stimulus activity for children is not good for them. Okay. It's just not good. Yeah. It's just bad. Don't do it. I just imagine that the, well, anyway, whatever, yeah.
Starting point is 02:35:47 There's an element of it that, there's probably a, there's an element of it that is like this is your, this is the amount that you're born with, this is how you focus, this is how you deal with attention and general learning, et cetera. And then there's an element which is like, if you get used to higher speed algorithmic feed shit, et cetera, it's going to increase
Starting point is 02:36:06 your own attention span. Oh, absolutely, and there's susceptibility to all things are different in all people. So you, well, you watched pro wrestling as a kid, right? Okay, do you ever horribly injure your cousins? Not horribly, but we fucked around. Yeah, you scuffled a little bit, right? You remember other kids in elementary school or high school that their parents couldn't let them watch wrestling
Starting point is 02:36:30 Because if they saw wrestling they would go nuts And start to wrestle until someone was injured. I'm sure you knew at least one kid like Right its susceptibility to different effects is always gonna be different depending on the person. Like, I remember being so bored in class and not being allowed to jimmy legs because it was annoying that I would just fucking disassociate into a mind callous where I was doing more interesting shit. Right, right, right. Which I've heard then becomes, um, something that like allows you to like escape other Situations where you should be focused in because you start relying on Fucking go Homer brain out of ghosting out of body. You know more reliably whenever situations are just
Starting point is 02:37:20 Didn't you hate working at the grocery store wasn't that like really soul-crushing? Oh, I wasn't there most of the time I was out in in brain space Doing whatever anyway, I can go on about this forever. I find it infinitely fascinating, but yeah, all right Anyway, the important takeaway. I'm a great parent and Paige is the best parent and the baby is genius Also, he's big. Just make sure you pronounce her name correctly. He's, yeah, we'll get to that in a second. Also, the baby is large.
Starting point is 02:37:52 And I don't mean like large for his age, like he's of average size for his age, which is way out of whack for my family. Hell yeah. He's hanging out on percentile 50, which then is staying on percentile 50 over a period of months, which means I'm going to have a problem in about 13 or 14 years. There is a very adorable habit that I saw when you were over of just the, we've stopped recording, okay, I gotta get out of here, it's an emergency, I need to continue verifying the existence of my baby and it not being around is a crucial critical.
Starting point is 02:38:41 Oh yeah, yeah, no, that's- Just the, there it is, okay. You know. Have to look at the baby, if I can't see the baby, the baby might be dead. So have to physically get eyes on. Eye contact and lock on must occur. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 02:38:57 So, um, I discovered at lunch uh, just, just yesterday where I said, hey Paige, uh, and was starting a conversation and she went, oh my god, Patrick, Paige, and was starting a conversation. And she went, oh my God, Patrick, we're in public, stop it. And I look at her and I say, what? Huh? And she goes, you just called me a bitch.
Starting point is 02:39:15 And I'm like, no, I didn't. Did you think I said bitch? And she's like, yes. I'm like, I said Paige. And in the ensuing conversation, we discovered that if we are in a crowded space with like ambient audio, like people talking, like a street or a restaurant, and I go, hey Paige,
Starting point is 02:39:43 just like I said now, a unknown amount of times that will translate into my wife's ears as bitch, as hey, bitch, we don't know how long this has been happening. We don't know how many times it's happened Oh, but apparently I asked her page how many times do you think I call you a bitch out in public in like a restaurant? She she looks at me goes all the time And just like that's been the norm That's that's norm. It's never come up. It's just been the- It's never come up. That's wild. Paige, that's wild. And I say Paige.
Starting point is 02:40:27 Yeah, he's saying Paige. That is wild. That's crazy. That's crazy energy. Okay. It's never come up. Oh, man. So I'm thinking back to like tons and tons of conversations.
Starting point is 02:40:35 I'm like, hey, Paige, can we do- and she's like, oh my God, stop it. And I'm like, what the fuck is happening? What? What is happening? I'm like, what the fuck is happening? I'm like, what the fuck is happening? I'm like, what the fuck is happening? I'm like, what the fuck is happening?
Starting point is 02:40:43 I'm like, what the fuck is happening? I'm like, what the fuck is happening? I'm like, what the fuck is happening? I'm like, what the fuck is happening? I'm like, what the fuck is happening? I'm like, hey Paige, can we do, and she's like, oh my God, stop it. And I'm like, what the fuck is happening? What, what, huh? Also, okay, that is, there's another thing there though that I feel like is almost like more crucial, which is that kind of kills the comedic edge of the rare but powerful drop
Starting point is 02:41:03 when you do actually go, bitch. I know's it's very because what if I drop that on punch bomb it's for a very good punch line usually yeah and if you can't knock the legs out of that because it's a powerful one you can't know apparently it's all the time apparently it's all the time you use that too often and then and then it spoils the actual good one Page in the chat says I just sorry page in the chat says I just thought he was trying to be funny and edge Yeah, oh man. Oh so that's that's
Starting point is 02:41:36 also, what with the baby using sign language and Looking for mama we have established that the human child understand words so we are embarking on the clean it up arc of being a parent which may or may not may or may not be successful. Okay. Because you, you know what I mean, you've hung out with me and Paige. Paige. We, we, we swear a little bit every now and then.
Starting point is 02:42:15 Yeah. Yeah. I mean, look, you know, everyone's got their, their, their way of going about it. I do think there's definitely like, the way I was raised was of course like you have your Like the ramifications of saying a cuss was like you will be smoked down But there's definitely you know the level of like okay It's just a little impolite. I suppose if you're you know hitting dropping that in Grandparent and teacher and and you know, stranger company or so. Um, and I, and I've seen, I've heard, I've heard
Starting point is 02:42:53 different folks going about this in different ways. You know, I've heard like, um, comedians where it's like, okay, you can say this at home in your tent out in the backyard. You can go nuts. No, listen, man, you, Willie,, you Will you've worked with me for a long time you've known page for a long time The shit that we say for goofs cannot be repeated by a human baby They're like we will get in so much fucking shit right right right yeah Like can't like page can't pay played it by daylight anymore Hey by the way, I should mention by daylight anymore. By the way, I should mention, clarity, I do occasionally call Paige a bitch in the house
Starting point is 02:43:29 for fun. So here's what I was about to say, is like, okay, so the misunderstanding now, being the way it is, what you need to do is very, very sparingly, but when the bit is absolutely out at peak, emphasize, no no key and peel stay with your chest bitch what the fuck you have to you have to underline it now to make it very clear yeah look at my mouth exactly and and when but and when she returns fire it needs to be equally as enunciated for maximum damage. So the trick to the, the mental trick that I'm going to use to not swear on the baby,
Starting point is 02:44:13 I'm turning it into a competition in my mind. Okay. Because babies learn swears. It happens, it's kind of unavoidable. But I can be certain that if I mentally categorize this as a competition, that the babies will learn my swears second. Ahhhhhhh. And thus I will have more.
Starting point is 02:44:40 I see, I see, I see. Okay, very important here. Between the both of y'all, you cuss to your parents I? Cuss a little bit to my pet we both cuss about the same amount have you yeah have you always or did that only happen in? adulthood No that happened I Started to cuss towards my parents when I was like 16 ish nothing crazy, okay? But just and and and yeah page about the same kind of thing. I guess yeah about the same okay, okay?
Starting point is 02:45:11 I Still have a no cuss filter on with my mom Oh, yeah, cuz of the law exactly right and with that comes the ability to always PG So it's a very trained switch You know that has never had a chance to take a break, you know? I feel like, um... this might be a melanated problem. Oh, definitely.
Starting point is 02:45:40 Definitely. So, um... It's grand that you bring that up wooly specifically swearing with your parents My mother-in-law is coming to visit us in the next couple of weeks a So So this this challenge is on. Okay. Because Paige learned much of her dialogue from her sweet mom.
Starting point is 02:46:17 So... We're all gonna be on best behavior lest we all be responsible for the first word being Fuck balls or some shame conclusion upon the meeting baby's first word bitch That not be good Why do you thought you were saying it the whole time? Yeah, cuz like this is what you said page though right? Uh, this is gonna be the first time I said PIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII But there would be judgment on that, and that judgment would be legitimate. Also we've already planned for it. Okay, the kid's going to eventually be 6 and 7 and 8 and 9, right? So they're going to go to a school, right?
Starting point is 02:47:13 The ability to hide all of this horrible language from the child is going to rapidly disappear. Yes, very, very quickly. So we've already got the plan. We've already got the plan We've already got the plan so Those are mommy and daddy worth blah blah blah either rude don't say it to be polite But when it does happen and we do get the phone call and we do have to go in Clueless must be that internet. I don't know. We'll have to ask around for his friends. That's crazy kids these days. Oh, I have no idea Yeah, just play it clueless Clueless have no idea
Starting point is 02:47:52 Okay, the thing is though, and I mean I know I'm like I'm way ahead on this But like I want to make sure that like I have Armed a child with a verbal salvo, so that whenever shit comes at them, if people start dissing, if people start being disrespectful, if it gets to that, just that I want a verbal deconstruction capable child, you know what I mean? Ready to drop, meet the grams if a kid ever acts up and starts talking shit.
Starting point is 02:48:26 That's too much for children. You can't, come on. No! No, but I want someone, I wanna make sure that they know how to fucking hit that, hit the right notes in defense when needed. We've also planned, we also have the plan for, if child getting bullied and child retaliates after, you know,
Starting point is 02:48:47 do the thing, you know, tell them stop, tell a teacher. Didn't work? Okay, solve it. Right? Shame on you. Mrs. Smith saw you punch Billy? Shame. Shame on you.
Starting point is 02:49:01 Bad child. Ooh, terrible. All right, let's get some ice cream. right right right right right right right? I mean I Just want I want to be I want that like end of end of discussion to be like hey We were taught to use your words so use your words, and then they use their words and everyone goes. Oh my god Don't use your words Holy shit, use their words and everyone goes oh my god don't use your words holy shit man just hit him what the fuck I'm a fan all right anyway baby update finished okay okay Uh... Let's... Let's, uh, well, uh, what's going on this week?
Starting point is 02:49:50 Uh, uh, I played Hades? Okay! You start, yeah, yeah, yeah, okay! Yeah, that, no, I'm not, dude, that was part one of my week! I haven't even gotten the games I played! Hades 2 came out, it shadow dropped! That was, I just, damn, early access early access fuck my whole shit up. I had plans It's going down So I don't have you bought Hades yet. Yeah
Starting point is 02:50:13 Did you read the store page very carefully? No, just bought it Well, I have something on the store page a very interesting note that you should have read So on the Hades 2 store page it says early access Right, what's in her? What's in early? Why early access? You know that blurb right? Well if you scroll down to how long it'll be, how is the full version... oh here it is. What is in the current state of the early access version of Hades II? Quote, Hades 2 in early access already has more environments, foes, and fully voiced characters than the full version of the original Hades game, but it is incomplete in key areas,
Starting point is 02:50:59 characters, foes, narrative events, and systems are still to come. Um. Yo. It does. So they actually said this out loud when they announced the game. They said, we don't want to bring it to early access until it has more than Hades does. And you and I talked about it on the podcast and we both came to the conclusion that what they meant Was more stuff than Hades one early access But no, they actually met the other one They meant it needs to have more than Hades one has right now. Okay, and it does okay
Starting point is 02:51:38 So I have to assume that that the way that they developed Hades, now with it being such a breakout success, their development strategy must have changed. They must have scaled up to be able to do that, right? I don't know. Because originally Supergiant was kind of rolling out this small team of rotating members, and it was like, it was always a background project that just had a small crew of people that were like coming in and then leaving and
Starting point is 02:52:08 adding and contributing over a long period of time but it's the Hades has been so fucking successful that it's like I can see this easily becoming the priority and then getting a much bigger team dedicated to it you know because like the original plan was essentially to develop a lot of cases early access Is not structured for that like there'll be a dev team at like full-size, you know working for a particular push But like it sounds the way that though with the first game was developed was like truly it stayed at that at that scale as They they hit launch and as they hit 1.0 If they're doing that with this that's an insane amount of time that they've been working on this and I don't know like how early into the last one they would have started development, but
Starting point is 02:52:54 if they're Describing getting to this point in less than half the time it took them to do this on the first game It must have changed their entire dev cycle. Oh, yeah, also they can a lot of the tech. Oh, yeah, of course from one to two So so much more cash to work with now too. Yes, you can you I so I don't know how many levels are currently in But there are people in my chat telling me they are fighting chronos They can get to the final boss like it is not launching the way Hades did where was one floor Two floor three floor four it is launching here come here's most of the fucking game come the furies etc. Oh wow here's most of the game and
Starting point is 02:53:38 You can see the little bits they haven't finished this character doesn't have a portrait The upgrade thing doesn't have the art for the Arcana cards it doesn't have all the weapons but it has four weapons with three aspects each to start okay now is there anything to say that this is quote-unquote early access like yeah you can see you can see holes. Okay, okay. There are holes. You go into the keepsake menu
Starting point is 02:54:12 and they're literally all rings with a little A, B, C, D, E, F, G, down the list. You get certain boons and they don't have icons, they just have letters on them. But it is feature complete Karen Karen has a placeholder art which is funny because he was in the first game didn't you know that kind of thing I don't know about feature complete I'm not gonna say that but like the skeleton of the game is fully there
Starting point is 02:54:49 Okay, um and it's great It's great. I mean I am I would have fucking imagined It's great. It's just it's wild to think of like as much content as the original games final state but tons of but like placeholders. It's just like a, like you're not, there's a lot of shit that needs to be like polished up I guess, but like the breadth of the surface is massively expensive then. Okay, so it launched at version.900 something. And it definitely feels like version.9. It feels almost done.
Starting point is 02:55:25 OK. Hell yeah. When Hades came out early access, it was like, ooh, this is a little piece. Right? This feels like the last patch before Hades is 1.0. Oh, OK. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:55:41 I think the Knicks or whatever, the Knicks update, I think, or something like that. Maybe I'm yeah What is it is it only on steam right now? I? Don't I don't know okay? I have no idea I bought on steam It's uh it's it's it's gorgeous It's it's fucking awesome It the music the characters as expected, the the the all the I literally have a single complaint.
Starting point is 02:56:13 And we can talk way more about Hades next week when you've gotten some time in on it. I assume you're gonna Yeah. Yeah, you mentioned it. Yeah. One complaint. Yeah. One complaint. Some of the weapons just don't feel quite as good as Zags. Okay. So right now there's the staff, the staff, the knives, the torch, and the axe. And I think there's a fifth one but I don't know about it legacy stuff there or no what's that legacy weapons are there no no okay but they're but they're they're just not quite punchy enough they don't feel quite as perfect as Zag's weapons do. Are there paths?
Starting point is 02:57:07 What's that? Are there paths? Oh, you mean the aspects? Yeah. Yeah, there are. And there's just so much interesting shit going on. Nemesisesis is there and she has the aspect of the Nemesis as her sword like the Zag sword aspect of the Nemesis okay like you run into Eris which was one of the aspects of the adamant rail and she has
Starting point is 02:57:38 the adamant rail aspect of Eris on her oh yeah okay she's that weapon cool cool cool okay all the all the boons got reworked and all that the game has a on her. Oh, sick. Yeah, sick. Okay. Because she's that weapon. Cool, cool, cool. Okay. All the boons got reworked and all that. The game has a, one of the features that I wasn't expecting at all, the game has a lot more story in it to like per run. So they've added a feature to make sure that you see it. If you're going too hard, and styling too well, you don't miss anything, a character will show up and fucking curse you as you go into a new area,
Starting point is 02:58:18 with a stacking debuff per room that makes it impossible to win that run. Oh wow, okay. Because you're missing out on story and shit that's supposed to progressively occur. Yeah, it is enemies do 20% more damage and it stacks another 20% per room. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:58:43 Fuck you, absolute fuck you. You're breaking the limit. And I got to one at the end of one run in which I got to the the the end of a door and Kronos said fuck off and just sent me right back to camp. I didn't even lose. Okay. They just said no. Stop. Okay. Okay. Stop, okay, okay So yeah, I'm gonna be jumping in to try it out now I have Done my like, you know, I guess whatever post Like I you know Like you beat it proper the first time and then you unlock your your multiple runs and then you beat it the ten times Right, so I'm still working on my you know true ending
Starting point is 02:59:23 Well, so there's there's three in Hades 1. There's beat Hades once, there's beat Hades nine more times, and then there is max out the affinity of every single god in Olympus. That last one is not fucking worth it. As somebody who got it, it is not worth it. Main point, get to your 10th ending. Yeah. And that's your point of your credits, okay.
Starting point is 02:59:49 Yeah, because they show you credits and there's a song. Okay. Well, I mean, I'm going to jump in to try this out and just sample it a little bit, but when it comes to my own time, I would want to go back and work on that. Yeah, no, Hades 2 is... It's great. There's so many little things that pop up that are just massive, massive fucking improvements. But the one that shows up the most is the way you... You know you had fishing in the original and like you do a little ding and then maybe you'll find a fish to get a fish out there's
Starting point is 03:00:31 like mining there's gathering plants and and farming oh wow a whole bunch of distracting shit and there's fishing and there's a fourth one I think I forget what it is. But when you start your run, you have to pick which bonus one you want. You have to pick, do I want the pickaxe for mining or do I want the fishing rod for that? And one of the first upgrades in the game
Starting point is 03:01:00 is when you finish the room and you hear that ding that says that there's a collectible a gigantic white light Will float off your character and point to the resource? That is hidden on the map Do what I did over and over and over and over and over which was forget that there was a fish to get Smart quality of life. Okay. Yeah. It's great. Yeah. It's great. I have other questions, but fuck it. I'll just put the- Well, I have a big question, but no one I don't think can answer me. Because you go to the pick your weapon area, and then
Starting point is 03:01:44 you go down to doing the dungeon, where you go down a set of steps to start the first level. And right next to it is a set of steps that goes up. And it says go up, question mark, and it's sealed. Hmm. And I don't know what the fuck that is. Could be. I don't know what the fuck that is.
Starting point is 03:02:04 Okay, Gilroy Goldblood, fucking DM me on Twitter and tell me what it is I don't give a shit. Oh the content is there. It's not a for later. Okay up is in the game I I am kind of expecting that Zagreus is in this game somewhere either as a boss or as His his move set being integrated as a second character. I Mean the cool sequel thing is to do the cool sequel thing Yeah, I want both. I want I want him to be a boss and To be to have this whole move set come over. Yeah. Yeah
Starting point is 03:02:40 Cool. Okay people are also thinking he might be a boon Giver which would be awesome to just chat yeah Someone DM me what go up is I don't give a fuck Okay Yeah, that that game's incredible. Holy shit. I'm gonna play a bunch of that Anyone who was hoping that I would play the whole game on stream is insane I'll throw it into my streams at random, but that is an early morning couple of runs game. I also played Stellar Blade. Have you played Stellar
Starting point is 03:03:14 Blade? No. No. You dove into the shift up cinematic universe so shift up creators of Nikkei goddess of victory the the the the the booby booby boobies and Nikkei is ass jiggles I see I see that it's more prominent well get ready for fucking stellar blade yeah because it has the lowest angled camera I've ever seen as a default camera. I think safe to say that Shift Up are hometown people, you know? So I think somebody in my chat nailed exactly what Stellar Blade was perfectly in a single line, which was imagine Nier Automata with a way worse story and much better gameplay. Better.
Starting point is 03:04:09 Much better. It's great. Better. It's really good. It is great. I exc- It plays real, oh that was Gene, that was Gene Park, friend of the show.
Starting point is 03:04:22 I was expecting, you know, near at home, but serviceable and fine in all respects. Yeah, so the story is terrible. Terrible. Like I don't even know what the monsters are. But it is a Sekiro-like, and it is it is it is a securo like And it has juice. Okay, like everything feels great and plays great and it's It's awesome and it's built on the shoulders of Giants. Therefore there's a lot of
Starting point is 03:05:01 There's a lot of quality to There's a lot of qualities to see yeah. Yeah, and so well, I mean just to see and to implement right like that's that's a yeah okay interesting the music is stellar it's it's great I think it's the same person who did nears music but yeah god-aw storyline. Just just just nonsense You should probably check it out I Was consider just because it's for gooning doesn't mean it's not all so good Yeah, I was you know I was I was given that a thought at some point it It wasn't priority, but it was around and I and I figure you know maybe if I wait long enough We can get the updated costumes or whatever.
Starting point is 03:05:46 Anyways, yeah, no, I think the little drone that follows you around or so, is that actually serving the exact same function as Niner as well? Is it your little option that you can grab and hover on and that you can know it's just it's just dude hanging out It doesn't fight. I Don't not not not yet. Okay. All right. He's just there Yeah, no it plays like Sekiro and it just the parrying feels really good and and it just the parrying feels really good and It's it's just got that got that good. Oh, if he becomes a gun, okay. Yeah, he becomes a gun then okay, so it is just pod
Starting point is 03:06:38 Yeah, also when you start playing it you're like wow they ripped the fuck off of near automata Yeah, like really bad like like crazy. It's like hilarious Okay, but if you're having fun with the gameplay, alright, Korea. You can make her ponytail short so you can see her butt better. That's important. That's in the options. Alright, that's it for Pat's Week. Okay. If you want to see more Pat stuff, go down to twitch.tv slash PatStaresAt.
Starting point is 03:07:04 This week is going to be more Pat stuff go down to twitch.tv Slash Pat stares at this week is gonna be more crisis crisis score. That's wrong. Oh, well fancy seven rebirth I did catch and stellar blade. I did catch that. Yeah, Yoko Taro says oh he likes it better Mm-hmm. I forgot to mention the white spot Yes, I that clip I did I did see that you saw that clip, huh? Oh Boy BC has a restaurant called the white spot and it is actually what it sounds like It is the spot for white and Nobody had any
Starting point is 03:07:44 No one raised a finger and said, Hey, maybe... Okay. Never. Cool. It's pretty good. Like, cause that's the worst part. Yeah, it actually tastes pretty good.
Starting point is 03:07:57 Because like, I mean, all I'm imagining is just like, like that's the name, like that's the name we want to call the restaurant and I'm just picturing like Rocco walking in from Mega64 going, hey guys, I have a great idea and everyone's like no. What? Actually, you know what? Yeah, I don't know what I was thinking. So somebody in the chat points out and I did not know this, so BC has ferries. They have boats that take you to Vancouver Island, right? And some of those ferries have restaurants on them, right? And by restaurants, I mean restaurant.
Starting point is 03:08:38 And apparently they're all white spots, which means that the British Columbia provincial government has enshrined the white spot as the food of choice for your boat ride Why no black spots Rock up. Oh Man well, I'm glad the eats are good um What is this I have Pat I think I have the the most crucial question All right, let's hear about this because as you've relayed it's in fact historically was though the great white spot of America Now named after that when you know history has
Starting point is 03:09:23 When you had the food and looked around Was it in fact? No, no was a white spot. No, it wasn't that's that that's the funniest part That's the funniest fucking part when we had when we went to the white spot around us were Indian people, some old white people, some folks from South America, some Native Americans.
Starting point is 03:09:56 It was diverse, it was legitimately diverse. Okay, okay, okay. There were only six white people in the whole place. Because I mean, if the twist at the end of this arc about like West Coast politeness Turns out that while it works for for y'all
Starting point is 03:10:19 It's a real nice time as long as you know You look like you belong in the white spot everyone belongs in the white spot that would have been a real nice fucking that would have a nice little third act twist on it would have but no no that was the strangest part that's what that's what, so originally Paige and I were like, ugh, the white spot sounds like cum. Like that's how it hit our brains. Ugh, gross. Correct. Right? And then we were talking to somebody in our neighborhood and they're like, actually that place is pretty good. And we're like, really? And they're like, yeah, yeah,
Starting point is 03:11:02 no, it's pretty good. I'm like, okay. So the next time we pass by one, we're like, hey, why don't we go eat at the White Spot? And we sat in there and we look around and it is pretty diverse. Like, there's a Native American couple sitting over there, right? And surely it must mean something else. No, no, no, it means exactly what it sounds like it means. Okay. It means EXACTLY what it sounds like it means. So what we have on our hands then is a good old case of Kimmy Schmidt,
Starting point is 03:11:34 Washington football team owners. Just going like, Yeah! Yeah! We're sticking by our guns, god damn it! We're an institution. While I was looking up on Wikipedia, it has changed owners like a bunch of times. So there were like at least three or four different opportunities over like a path a hundred years to be like And they're like nah, man. That name is forever Just keep it forever. We're standing. They're standing on business. They're holding on to a
Starting point is 03:12:07 Very there. There's a point to be made here. God damn it. Yeah, okay Okay Well, um the price was good too like it was upsetting it was like is this a franchise or is this kind of a oh? It's a friend. It's all over. It's all over the place man Okay, there's more than one all right all right all right and like you're sitting there You're like that was really good, and then the bill came or like wow that was We ought to come back. Oh shit should we yes. Yes, I think we will But we'll check it out make sure that you know did you get the bill with a little wink in a you know? I did not y'all come back now?
Starting point is 03:12:46 No. All right. I think the funniest thing is that when I posted that on Twitter, a shit ton of BC residents were like, I did not know that. They grew up here and so they never thought about it even once. I'm like, I just realized you've got a great venue to begin your Kendrick Lamar journey. I think I think you should start hitting up that discography. In particular, particular there's a couple of choice tracks that would be wonderful from one one mr. Lamar from one K dot to drop while you're sitting in the white spot I
Starting point is 03:13:35 think they would enjoy the music it'd be pretty good I think it would be pretty good mm-hmm yeah good, perfect. It all works out All right, okay All right. Well whoo that would that took three hours and 43 minutes plus well There was a break in there to get to the news. Thank God. There's only like two stories There's only like two stories Where do you want to yeah, okay? All right like let's just oh you know what fuck it before we even go anywhere X-Men titling their season finale Tolerance is extinction is the fucking best episode title of anything ever. Okay, I have to catch up.
Starting point is 03:14:26 I'm, I'm, I'm... But that's the name of the episode and it's fucking perfect. That's powerful. Back to news. I, so by the way, discovered something about that because I'm behind by a couple episodes. Like literally I'm back at five, right, after the fucking... You have to go, go been very it's been very hard It's schedule has gotten yes
Starting point is 03:14:49 but um I Learned that apparently the writer of episode 5 Knew somebody that was in the pulse nightclub And it's like oh somebody that was in the Pulse Nightclub. Ooh. And it's like, oh my God, that explains everything about how that fucking episode came to, like, holy shit, man, in my chest. Like, that's fucking, like, unbelievable.
Starting point is 03:15:24 And that was what was brought Deliberately you know to that that fucking script like wow And there's a whole thing about like yeah how that that came to be in everything It's it's it's insane that that's what they're doing with the hey guys remember Like you you gotta you gotta shut up and just watch yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah of course of course yes I've been I've been away okay so I mean look I might as well just go with the biggest things at the time in somewhat chronological order but I don't even know what that is
Starting point is 03:15:57 yeah well so fucking just hey man is everyone enjoying their hell diving wait wow hell divers it's feel good community! We're all in this together! Stop, stop, uh, uh, hell diving, uh, soldier. What do you mean? We need you to sign this. Um... Okay, well, that's kind of annoying, but I'll sign it. What is it? Uh, it says here that if you live in just about every country on the planet actually
Starting point is 03:16:25 That is not I guess like um The big what 10 15. I don't know it 18 18 There are 18 countries that you're allowed to play hell divers in and everywhere else can go fuck itself I don't understand Sony in and everywhere else can go fuck itself. I don't understand. Sony decided that the sickest thing to do at the peak of this game's success, it's Runaway Darling, Helldivers 2, is to force people to sign up for a PSN account so that they can continue playing it on PC.
Starting point is 03:16:58 And this is funny because when we brought this up the other day, didn't you kind of more or less? Okay, so this is actually exactly this So when I started playing hell divers to it said a PlayStation account is required to play this game But I had a big skip button and I was like I can't get through to make a PSN account or link it Right, so I don't want to I don't that but my exact phrasing was I don't want to skip this and go forward and have it break on me later and fuck me out of Helldivers. That's what it was.
Starting point is 03:17:32 And everyone said I was fucking stupid and crazy and that made no sense. I remember. And I said, but I don't trust this because it says mandatory and then it says skip. And people made fun of me for weeks on that because they were just like just skip it doesn't matter well guess what did shit what you Sony disagree so what was probably happening
Starting point is 03:17:54 is you're looking at a developer implemented workaround to it was the CEO of Arrowhead that implemented to a mandated message that Sony never wanted to be there. And then eventually that had to go. It was crazy because with this announcement came Arrowhead responding on Twitter, Devs responding on Twitter being like, I can't play, people are like, I can't play this game anymore. What do I do? And they're like, I can't play this game anymore. What do I do? And they're like, I don't know. I don't know.
Starting point is 03:18:25 Right? And- I've never seen a partnered company publicly state, yeah, this isn't our decision. We literally don't know what you can do. I- So- We're working on it. It's not our decision.
Starting point is 03:18:42 So my understanding is that they said essentially like, let your voices be heard. Tell them that you, what you want. So one of their Discord moderators was like, listen, keep review bombing the game. So the game was being review bombed like I've never seen any game ever get review bombed. And they themselves were like, yeah, we don't like this either.
Starting point is 03:19:03 Do what you need to do. We're arguing with Sony every day. To make the the change occur and so it got blown the fuck up and went into the overwhelmingly negatives over the course of 48 hours Which is the fastest ever of course right now like if this would be really annoying and stupid and dumb If it were like just putting an extra step of fuck you sign up for our stupid shit like you know Like like um anytime a game puts in a use a square enix account sign up for you play blah blah blah third party Launchers on Steam annoying shit awful, and then it's always annoying always annoying and always future Unfriendly because when that shit falls apart later on years down the line because it's some stupid
Starting point is 03:19:43 because when that shit falls apart later on, years down the line, because it's some stupid of-the-moment system, and then you can't use it anymore, then your game's gonna have booting issues, DLC issues, and sometimes it just won't work, because it can't access whatever shitty, stupid server got pulled offline years ago. Um, but to then have it be like, and also, if you bought it too fucking bad for you in the territory that you bought it in, is insanity. And here's where the problem shows up.
Starting point is 03:20:08 So Steam starts refunding people who ask Yes! no matter the play time. Yes. Right? Steam, I believe it is Steam that delisted the game in all those territories. You get, right?
Starting point is 03:20:22 Yeah, go ahead. Because Steam is the seller and steam probably doesn't want literally hundreds of thousands of people buying the game only for it to not work and Getting like a lawsuit that sounds like that's that's how right that sounds like a class fucking action global assault You know major order
Starting point is 03:20:51 So what do we have a situation where the games getting review bombed into shit? It's literally the press like are we talking about Kendrick and Drake or we talking about hell divers being a piece of shit um like The reviews are bombing steam is pulling your game Because steam and and I don't know what Steem and PlayStation's agreement is But this can't be good for it and the instructions people are getting are literally like okay The first time you put put in a refund request It's gonna automatically deny you because it'll see that you've had over two hours Do it a second time and then a human will see it and they might grant it But if they don't it's still going through the automated process keep trying and they yeah
Starting point is 03:21:26 Which sucks for steam step right right because and eventually when a human being sees it and and you write a message that says I've purchased a game that I can no longer play they will refund you, but this is so here's a redness on the back here Here's where it it really falls apart, and I feel like this is very specific to Helldivers, right? Lots of games have been fucked on or delisted or had region problems and it's in a shit show and no one's happy, right? trades on the fucking comrade emotion of we are all in this together. That is the specific ideological chest-feeling emotion. And this was so damaging and so upsetting. So I don't have anybody in the region, I don't have anybody that I'm friends with that is in the regions that would have been affected, right?
Starting point is 03:22:28 All the friends that I play Helldivers to with. They're all in Canada and the US. I got a couple people in Grenada that can't play. Okay, right? But I'm just saying, I don't have any, right? But it's such a massive fucking bummer that I was like, I kind of never want to play Helldivers ever again. Cause when I play it, I'll just be overwhelmed
Starting point is 03:22:49 with bad vibes of, oh right, yeah, they cut out 90% of the world on this. I don't have that and I don't feel that because the fact that Sony was clearly forcing Arrowhead to do something they did not wanna fucking do and they were fighting back against it is like this is just the bullshit Of the game when you work with a shitty someone who's making shitty decisions as a publisher for you, right? This is something that is and like I saw a really great comparison point about how
Starting point is 03:23:17 This is the benefit of working with a partnered triple-a publisher and not being acquired by them with a partnered AAA publisher and not being acquired by them because this is similar to when Larian was working on Baldur's Gate and the whole licensing shit was going down with D&D where they weren't affected by it because it's essentially like they're working on whatever they're working on that's unaffected by the larger decisions the shitty company is making. If you're in a position where they own your studio
Starting point is 03:23:43 and you say anything like, yeah, keep actually review bombing because that'll... Shut up, die. That's the end of your company or that's the end of the employees at the very least. Yeah, you're fucking fired or the whole thing's shutting down. No matter what happens at that point, the game is gone regardless, but at least if you're just partnered with them, you can go your own separate ways versus the acquisition where that is the end of the entire thing and everyone's fired.
Starting point is 03:24:08 So I know what you mean, but also I'm always just aware that yeah, there's always that possibility of the thing you like, the whatever, the harmonics is making a good game, but here comes Activision. There's always the publisher getting in there and being the absolute worst pieces of shit every time. I can look at that and see that for what it is. So I saw somebody in the chat just now say, Pat, don't blame the wrong people. And I saw other folks talking to me about that.
Starting point is 03:24:39 You're punishing AeroDiver when it's Sony's fault. And it's like, like one I really dislike the dimension of when somebody goes I don't want to watch this I don't want to play this I don't want to buy this and go well you're punishing the wrong people it's like you don't owe anyone anything you don't owe people your money for consumer products that you don't want like and it's not about punishing anyone it's about I have an emotional connection to this game and that emotional connection is now tainted It makes me sad. Yeah, so I don't want to play it anymore
Starting point is 03:25:12 Yeah, I mean I specify here that like I'm like I said, I don't feel what you've mentioned But I mean sure that's that yeah, I get I get what you're saying. I think as well and I said I I I get what you're saying. I think as well, and I saw someone making reference to the fact that apparently there was a update to the discourse where some people started going like, they started going like, therefore now, stop bringing this up slash, you know, they reversed the decision so everything's okay again.
Starting point is 03:25:41 Not yet, it's not, those countries are still delisted. But you know, and I'm like, I didn't see enough of that to know whether or not that was true or not. But they seem to be being like, why are people acting weird about the fact that like, we're still calling this a shitty thing and not just going like, Oh, everything's great. Now erase it. The thing never happened. You know, I don't again, I didn't see enough to verify that being actually real. But yeah, I just always am prepared for dev to do thing and then to get fucked over by shitty publisher. There was a list I saw that was like, here is platforms where they don't even list a developer
Starting point is 03:26:19 and they just list the publisher, right? PSN, can you see who made the game? No, but you can see who published it. Steam, you see both and there's a link, right? Like there's like, Nintendo, you don't see the, like there's a bunch of places where the dev is not even worth listing in the platform holder's eyes. So I'm just kind of going in expecting this,
Starting point is 03:26:38 knowing what it's like as well, just thinking of the amount of times where being inside, you know, the team and the people working on this are like screaming that like the thing that they fucking are working on is just being ruined by this shitty, you know, whatever shitty decision. But yeah, it got reversed over, I guess, three days after after that. and so now I think the reversal changes haven't come in yet though It's still delisted in those countries. Okay, just the announcement of the back down Well, people have refunded that you know, and that's that's done damage
Starting point is 03:27:16 the the review bombing has been again like spiked into the negatives and I know that there's a Like campaign on the subreddit and such for people to like try to fix the reviews. I think that- I think they need to turn that shit into a fucking cape. Have you seen the designs people have been making? No. It's like blue background with like the four red lines of the negative reviews. Oh wow, okay, okay, okay.
Starting point is 03:27:45 Oh they are? They are turning it into a cape? They announced, for real? That's hilarious, that's amazing. That's really funny. Ah, it's great. That's pretty funny. Yeah, I think that the whole like, hey, let's reverse gears on this type of thing.
Starting point is 03:28:00 Well, it's interesting to see that review bombing led to an outcome of this nature because there's so many instances where it ends up being, I don't know, questionably unjustified. In this particular instance, I think what they did represents part of the history of this game and thus stands to reason that it should exist as a part of, you know what I mean? Like the reviews, like this happened. Like pretending it didn't happen sucks, I don't like that. The state of the game currently being fixed like should be reflected, but there shouldn't be a,
Starting point is 03:28:38 oh, nothing ever went wrong, it's fine. Yeah, no, instead they're gonna immortalize it. I have a tweet from the fucking CEO saying the team is just thinking about a good name for the cape right now Okay, no pretending this didn't happen Interesting This only worked because arrowhead were pushing for this directly to Sony review bombing without the key factor without that key factor Oh, yeah, no the fact that they were like somewhat independent is absolutely a core element. If they were not independent, if they were a fully owned subsidiary, oh no, no.
Starting point is 03:29:15 Yeah. So, and then, you know, just combine that with the, like, again, every single recent acquisition-based explosion that we've been discussing and it's like yeah it seems pretty cool. It's so fucking stupid because like Sony just spent like a bit you remember the hey we're like we're putting a billion dollars to do live service and that included buying Bungie and then supporting Bungie as Bungie laid off all their shit and and working here and there and there and like's one, here's the live service fucking golden goose, kinda by accident, here it is, it's real, everyone's talking about it, it's, oh yeah.
Starting point is 03:29:49 Ruin it. Couldn't resist. Couldn't resist. Ruin it. Couldn't resist too much, too much money on the table, we could force them over. Yep. Like, I would even hate but understand the sign up for PSN and get a special cape Dude people have been talking about that for weeks
Starting point is 03:30:12 Why wasn't that the fucking sign up get a cape like you'd get everyone that could make a PSN account It's really it's so stupid. You would get everybody. Yes, and then what would happen is well? Here's the thing this story would be There are this meant there are over a hundred countries that can't access these cosmetics that sucks Right bummer that would be the story and it would be like what like that's a shitty element, but like That's still infinitely better cover on the podcast man Then what we fucking have it's crazy, it's crazy, you know? But just like, yes, positive reinforcement as opposed to just greed and bullshit, but whatever, we know, it's the same fucking stuff.
Starting point is 03:30:52 So you know what it was, right? It was like the people who are responsible for stealing user data out of your PSN account, who have nothing to do with Arrowhead or Helldivers. They're like, well, let me get in on this. Yeah, mouth drooling, licking their chops. And also, my department isn't the part that that That does third-party relations, so I don't give a fuck what happens over there We have a massive interest spike we have a I got a yeah a golden goose
Starting point is 03:31:13 That's been developed to cut that shit open get to get the eggs faster cut the get the eggs faster Yeah, if you cut open the goose's stomach to get the eggs You can get many eggs right now. Won't the goose will be dead? Well that's a problem for next quarter. I gotta take a quick break. I'll be right back. Right, so. Well Sony back down, that's good. Yes, they did. How's the other video game companies doing? I hear Nintendo's doing really well. Switch 2 news is going to be coming a couple months. Sorry, for those of you who are under the impression
Starting point is 03:32:10 that we are currently buckless, I am bucked up. You just can't see Bucky in front of- Oh my fucking God, are you switching outfits every time? Yes. How many Bucky's fucking- We are still bucked up, god damn it. Oh my god. What the fuck you think this is?
Starting point is 03:32:31 You're sick. Alright, you know what? God damn right I am. Yeah, so hey, Switch 2 news officially confirmed. Don't worry shareholders, we got that coming our way. So fucking chill. Yep. Yep. Yep Hey guys, we're gonna talk about the switch to it won't be the next time
Starting point is 03:32:49 I mean, but it'll probably be the one after like the worst kept secret in video games right now They kind of just went alright Let's just stop playing games and at least if we're gonna have this rumor flying around Let's capitalize for investors, right? So sure. Well, the other thing is that they were like, also the switch two is like, we're calling it the next model of switch. It's basically the switch, but newer. Like just so blunt and obvious.
Starting point is 03:33:18 2025. We'll find out, you know, not this year, but by then or so. So, sure. That's great. That's all fine and dandy. Fucking, just Microsoft, everyone actually, right? So yeah, we have our Sony story. Here's our Nintendo story. All right, what's going on?
Starting point is 03:33:37 Also, Nintendo has made more money with the Switch than the entire history of Nintendo as a company combined. That is fucking nuts. I have not heard that. Yeah, they put out the data. They have made more money on the Switch than the 100 year history of the company combined. Wow, slightly more profitable than HANA FUTA cards, huh? Slightly.
Starting point is 03:34:03 Okay, holy shit, that's insane. Well, anyway, I don't know, man. There's no clever fuckin' bit. Hi-Fi Rush is dead, and it's like you get one. You get one nice thing, and that's all you're allowed to have. So let's start from the beginning. Microsoft announced today that Tango Game Works And that's all you're allowed to have so let's as a truly beginning
Starting point is 03:34:27 Microsoft announced today that Tango Gameworks Arcane Austin And then alpha dog What's it called? I screwed up the names on these earlier, which is Unfortunate Arcane Austin who developed Redfall-Fi Rush, developer Tango Gameworks, Bethesda Cuts, and Alpha Dog Games, and there's a fourth one. Roundhouse Studios.
Starting point is 03:34:57 All right, so here's the really fun thing, okay? So, let's start, so Matt Booty puts out a statement that says, he's the face of this, who goes, hey, we're shutting these things down. So first of all, he calls it Alpha Dog Studios, when the actual studio is called Alpha Dog Games. This is of note, because Alpha Dog Studios is a fursuit company. He then calls Roundhouse
Starting point is 03:35:29 uh god he calls Roundhouse games when it's Roundhouse Studios. When the studio is actually called Roundhouse Studios. Yes. He then goes on to say well don't worry there's lots of DLC coming and lists Elder Scrolls online, the Golden Road, which is not the name of that expansion. It's called the Gold Road. So like this mass firing is being perpetrated by people who literally don't even know your name. Yeah, like I'm tweeting, I can't even look at the paper,
Starting point is 03:36:03 the email in front of me to get it together just fucking Holy shit Yeah So a high fire you remember when they shadow dropped high-five rush and we're like we're super happy with high-five rush And we're like wow what a so they set that game out to die We now like this with this the closing down of tango It's actually very clear that the shadow drop which they played off like a big smart move was actually they just didn't want to pay For any marketing and they sent that game out to die and then it just it didn't die
Starting point is 03:36:37 It was insanely successful by word now was like Disappointing because they wanted it to just die So now you have to wonder right now. You have to go back and go alright So were they do those games haven't even been ported to the fucking platforms They announced it to get ported to you You got it you have to you have to go back and think on things and go like is this a situation where the success is? like It's like god damn it
Starting point is 03:37:01 We were hoping for that loss to make up for, you know, like basically like is there is there an amount that like a tax cut would have worked in their benefit? Is there an amount that it would have compensated for on the earnings report of like the overall losses? So here's what I here's my gut. So I'm not a businessman. I'm not a business major. I don't know anything about business.
Starting point is 03:37:23 But I do know video game shitbag CEOs What I believe Was occurring was they never thought they'd make their money back on hi-fi rush, right? So they didn't want to pay for any marketing and they were planning to cut Tango Gameworks in the future to help pay for The Activision Blizzard Merger shit, right? Because they were expecting that to go through. But if Hi-Fi Rush had bombed horribly,
Starting point is 03:37:55 then they would have, oh, well, you know, that studio's not performing very well. That's an unfortunate cut. But that's not what happened! That's not what happened. They actually perform super good So they're cutting a profitable studio to pay for the Activision wizard merger for no reason Unfortunately springtime for Hitler in Germany You know did not quite
Starting point is 03:38:22 Did not quite flop the way they were hoping it would. Yeah, so what happened to Tango Gameworks is tragic. What happened to Arkane Austin is in some ways even more tragic. So they survived, because they're working on Blade. No, no, Arkane Austin didn't. Arkane Lion. Arkane Lion, which is the France studio the the primary arcane studio
Starting point is 03:38:49 They're working on blade, but here's the thing arcane Austin was told by Microsoft after purchase Make Redfall and they were like we don't want to I Don't if you remember seeing interviews with people They literally did not want to and people like left the project because they did not want to make Redfall because that company did not want to make Redfall and then It was forced out the door six months early like early and then it horribly horribly fucking bombed And then I all looked them the fucking shit. They're all bad and they killed them. So like they were
Starting point is 03:39:29 literally forced into a **** off a cliff and I'm seeing that the yeah. So it's ending. It's ending development and they're going to keep the servers on and provide a make good offer for people who just purchased DLC, that hero DLC for it. But yeah, I think like it's just, of course, this is relating, this relates to what we were just touching on a bit earlier, but acquisition is just the worst possible outcome for any of these smaller studios. It's always a thought that like, okay, you get this much money, you get this much coverage,
Starting point is 03:40:16 you get this much protection, you'll be able to work on guaranteed. You get a guaranteed funding for multiple projects, You can handle a particular IP and go years with it or whatever the case is. Oh yeah, Hi-Fi Rush won a BAFTA award last month. Fucking whatever, right? But in that loss of your independence and your ability to walk away from a deal, you just have this like, yeah, you are now a liability, you'll be shut down, whatever it can be saved or salvaged from that will be stripped, and if your closure can result in,
Starting point is 03:40:52 again, a debt offset elsewhere in this larger company, then that's what it becomes. It becomes part of the equation. So, do you remember? The entire Embracer bit. Do you remember in 2014 when Microsoft showed off Phantom Dust as a CG trailer and then they told everyone how awesome that game was going to be and the dev team was like, that's
Starting point is 03:41:11 crazy because we didn't know anything about that CG trailer. And then it came out that they had actually canceled the game six months before E3 and just never told the studio to stop working on it. Dark Soccer is not dead. The CG trailer had been like bought to show that they had games at E3. Um, then everyone got fired because they were told to make like a single player, but then they, it wasn't part of the budget, but then they never gave him any money. So they just fucking killed that city for nothing. And then scale bound
Starting point is 03:41:37 happened and all that shit. And you remember us having like a really long conversation in which, uh, we were like, uh, you should not let your company get bought by Microsoft because Microsoft will just kill your company for nothing. They won't even wait for you to ship a game before killing you. Right? I remember when, I think it was actually, it might have been like Oda at SNK who was talking about the samurai showdown getting exclusivity bought on Epic Game Store. And we're just talking, describing how a lot of games that we were talking that were getting exclusivity were just being paid for by hundreds of thousands of copies early on and stuff.
Starting point is 03:42:25 And anyway, all this is just to say that he kind of, he said something in the interview where he's kind of saying there's essentially, for small studios, there's a number, there actually literally is a thing that is an offer you can't refuse. Which is the offer that keeps the lights on. The one that keeps the fucking lights on. And when, yeah like unless you are an
Starting point is 03:42:47 independently wealthy Creator of a company that is like this is my passion project I don't give a fuck and I'm in a weird exception in most cases you and the studio of people you're working with Can get an offer that is like the ability to Yeah, again keep the lights on for whatever to, yeah, again, keep the lights on for whatever determined amount of time that is more of a guarantee than anything you've had before. You can't say no to that. I see some folks in the chat describing that Microsoft has shut down more studios than
Starting point is 03:43:17 they have shipped games in the past year. That's wild. If that's actually the stat. Man. On the backend of this fucking generation too, with Microsoft. What we have now, so I've been talking about it on social media and I was like,
Starting point is 03:43:36 oh, Obsidian has 18 months to live. Cause Avowed isn't gonna do Skyrim numbers. It's just not. Cause Microsoft owns Obsidian now. So these companies are dying for two reasons, right? Reason number one, that Activision Blizzard shit was really expensive. It was very expensive. And of course, Call of Duty will make them infinity dollars. Reason two. Ninja theories next, please say psych. Sorry, reason two is that buying Bethesda
Starting point is 03:44:20 was really expensive, but that's okay. Cause Starfield is gonna make so much money. Yeah. Okay. So Todd Howard reckons he knows why Starfield was so divisive. It was going to make so much money, but it turns out that it was too different from what they've been doing in the past No Some players just prefer the way it's done in fallout or Elder Scrolls Yes by by by Done he good
Starting point is 03:45:02 Instead of not good. We've seen a lot of players saying this is what I walked out of it out of a Bethesda game To explore the world a certain way and starfield didn't give me that I prefer the way it's done in fallout or elder scrolls Yes as in good Instead of bad Listen, man. I think I talked about this a couple weeks after I did that stream for starfield and I said You know how I know that they know Starfield and I said, you know How I know that they know Starfield wasn't as good as Skyrim or Fallout You didn't have to pay me to tell you to play Skyrim or Fallout
Starting point is 03:45:36 But they sure did for Starfield Yeah, um again I Outside looking in at this, I'm very, I guess, I'm confused, I suppose, because again, like when I was, I'm trying to figure out like what the defining qualities and traits are of the way Bethesda games are handled. There's a lot of question marks, but if the answer is we were too bold in our choices and the takeaway is just it's I can't remember what the missions are. I can't remember I don't know is there anything is there anything about this game or this stuff like is there like a what I still am sitting here going what is it like what What do you do? What what I?
Starting point is 03:46:51 Mean just just go play a new Vegas and you can answer that for yourself. Don't play at starfield instead It's exploring a gigantic open space and worlds that is fully realized and Yeah, the gameplay yeah stabby gameplay, right? So I I know a couple people at Bethesda, like Maine Bethesda, and they are fucking freaked out by this shit. The tone that I am receiving from people I am talking to is everyone feels like they are one bomb away from losing their jobs. Sounds about right. Um, yeah.
Starting point is 03:47:38 Which I think is accurate. Yeah, you know without without getting into specifics or so I've just yeah, that's that's that's a sentiment People that I know in the industry currently are working on or have been dealing with like more and more I guess let's say like desperate pitches from IPs and like the the tolerance for anything less than gangbusters. It's insurmountable. It's more than it's ever been. Meanwhile, Steam and Nintendo. I think that Sony and Microsoft's actions this week are kind of a perfect mirror of something that I've been saying literally as long as I have ever been in this, which is this is an industry
Starting point is 03:48:48 of failure and the winner is just the person who fails the last hardest. Like Sony did one of the stupidest things we've ever seen in the industry and walked it back and it was still a massive fuck up. But don't worry, here fucking comes Microsoft before the even yeah before the before the the trip over dick into face face plant can complete itself okay let's like seriously let's think about this Microsoft says they're not going third party because they want the best place to play games is on an Xbox what games yeah there's a Blizzard games? Dude, Microsoft, the game division
Starting point is 03:49:28 of Microsoft is just going to become Activision Blizzard. There's a particularly weird version of how the industry is getting rocked right now where when this has happened in cyclical ways from major publishers kind of fucking things up or like major deals falling through and leading to mass firings and such. Right now there's a whole thing of like, okay, I don't feel secure where I am. I got to figure out what the next type of move should be if I make one and such. But the idea of, I don't know which one of these fucking lily pads is safe to jump on Is has never been higher right? Well, it's I'll go work for Nintendo. No Nintendo's fucking full It's it's like it's never been more uncertain
Starting point is 03:50:17 Where you even if you have a qualified resume and a very clear like track record of oh, yeah You're you know what the fuck you're doing. anyone would hire you you're gonna crush it on whatever project you know even with like again an accomplished you know a CV you don't know where to step because it's all fucking landmines you know the the yes the tripping over your dick while the opponent stands still and then they win by default has never been more apt. There's a different angle here. There's a different angle about these Microsoft layoffs.
Starting point is 03:50:59 This is from noted human enema, Mike Yabara over at Activision Blizzard King. I see a lot of shots this is a quote quote I see a lot of shots at Phil over today's Xbox announcements I get it but knowing him as a human I know this hurts him as much as anyone else I can't speak for all the leadership there but I do know him and I do know what he is likely going through I'm not trying to I'm not gonna read the rest of this fucking crap Remember this is the guy who says you should tip the game company I Guess that sadness will translate to only single digit digit bonus increases instead of double this year
Starting point is 03:51:45 CEO of Blizzard, a company so awful that we covered their sex abuse shit for like a full year and a half says don't be mean to Phil. Don't be mean, Phil. Yeah, we're we I don't we again. Again, the shape of 2024 on this industry is going to be unlike any other previous year, for sure. I don't know where or what this looks like come next year, but it's... I feel like we're heading towards a crash for Microsoft and some other companies like Eraser and all that. You can only cut so many times.
Starting point is 03:52:27 You can. But there's also that thing where you're like, if there's a lot of talented people that can and have the ability to get together and do indie things, then like you kind of see, you know, that there's always a possibility of that kind of renaissance of sorts. But it's like, I don't know, man. Like, if you pull off- Oh, no, no, no, I don't mean to crash of the whole industry. If you, yeah.
Starting point is 03:52:50 Cause Nintendo is right there. They are. They're fine. They're better than Adfer. Everybody- But like, I mean, Western AAA? I got it, I got it. Like, oh yeah.
Starting point is 03:53:01 Everybody go apply to it. Start working at Ballotro. Everybody go work on Ballotro. That's the future. That'll cover it all. It'll take the whole industry on its back. I've been seeing a lot of people talk about Microsoft and it's very obvious that like that company has literally never known what they were doing ever.
Starting point is 03:53:29 RE4, nah. Genshin, Spider-Man, motion controls. I did not know this until today that the guy who owned the patent for motion controls for the Wii went to Xbox first, then Sony. And what happened was is the guys at Xbox were so rude to him, someone had to come over to him and apologize. I'm sorry. We really shouldn't be talking to people like this. Then he went to talk to Sony and he had a meeting in which crazy Ken wouldn't open his eyes during the meeting.
Starting point is 03:54:10 He just kept his eyes closed while he made his pitch. And then he went over to Nintendo and they're like, yeah, we'll buy that patent off you for motion controls. Man. It's like toddlers. And... It's like toddlers. Yeah. Yeah, that's that's pretty fucking incredible. If, look, if the end result of all of this is that like AAA is as a whole is irreparably damaged,
Starting point is 03:54:40 then I guess that might be a silver lining that forces other things that are not AAA to exist. and it forces a correction of that nature. It's just I can't see that happening without there being even more layoffs, even more closures, and even more fucking announcements and statements like this from CEOs at the same time. Like Call of Duty is huge, right? We all agree Call of Duty is very big, big game, right? announcements and statements like this from CEOs at the same time, you know? Like Call of Duty is huge, right? We all agree Call of Duty is very big, big game, right?
Starting point is 03:55:10 I genuinely foresee Microsoft closing down Obsidian and in the next console cycle we have a situation for like, well, what's Microsoft actually do? They put out Call of Duty and like Microsoft is like absorbing like Activision Blizzard, but Activision Blizzard is like becoming the head and it's just Activision Blizzard with a Microsoft logo on their chest. Yeah. Alright, well, yeah, again, the dust will settle for the next 12 months. Let's see what happens. Also while deciding to fire everyone, Phil Spencer played over 900 hours of games last year. That's sick.
Starting point is 03:56:07 That fucking rules. I hope that JoJo and all the amazing folks that made Hi-Fi Rush find a way to fucking work somewhere that can fucking actually support your creative decisions and you know. Yeah, I hope that you land on your feet guys. Like that you made an incredible game. It came out of nowhere. It's against all odds. Fucking word of mouth spread. We all saw it and it was one of my favorites. You know what the best part about all this is, considering the two companies we just talked about? The CEO of Arrowhead, after all the Sony shit,
Starting point is 03:56:52 looked at Hi-Fi Rush, sorry, looked at Tango, and was like, why didn't they just divest them of the company and let them go? Why even bother closing them down? I was like, oh, well, you have to destroy them so that nobody else can work with them. I always, I mean, that's a- We don't want them, but nobody else can have them either.
Starting point is 03:57:14 Like you kind of, that's the thing is like, there's only been so few instances of like this company buying back their independence, you know, that like, whenever we report on it, like I feel like, it's just the extreme minority. And yeah, and I always do wonder about that and I just assume they just again. They don't have enough outside You know either fucking venture capital or you know whatever liquid they have like they don't have enough to support that buyback of their No, dude. They have to destroy all the doughnuts of the homeless people don't get them
Starting point is 03:57:43 pour the bleach. Um... Right. So anyway, beyond those fun across the board for all major publishers, they're... Oh yeah, yeah. Only good news now. By the way, don't let infiltration come back into fucking fighting games. He's trying to come back.
Starting point is 03:58:03 I didn't see what's going on. Fuck that dude. What will happen oh he made a big tweet to the begging Capcom to let him come back okay and people are like didn't you fucking admit on in court that you fucking beat women and he's Yeah, okay fair Fair um in the in the meantime and I can only fucking I Love that we are in an era where you can with enough
Starting point is 03:58:40 With just with enough like burning vigor in your soul Maximilian can can just straight-up fix Marvel vs. Capcom 3. I'm gonna fix it fuck it! And then he's like okay we've got the mods we've gotten slots we've gotten modded characters we're updating it the new additions are there we found ways to get all kinds of crazy new shit into those games. Time to turn our gaze over to Infinite. And with the help of Wistful Hopes, who has been doing unbelievable modding work for Marvel 3, and again has been responsible for getting, you know, just when you saw like wild ass shit like, hey, there's Goku in Strive, shit like that.
Starting point is 03:59:26 You're seeing a new art style for Marvel versus Capcom Infinite they've been working on. And it's fucking amazing. It looks so good. It's like, upsettingly good. It's crazy that I feel like Capcom should have done that, maybe. Yeah, well, you know. It's hard, though. good it's crazy that I feel like Capcom should have done that maybe yeah well you know it's hard it's hard to put an X-Men in don't do it shut up no no X-Men
Starting point is 03:59:59 are hard how many people are even working on this. Is it literally just Whistler Hulks? It is just Rin. It is just. Then shut up! You could have done it! I'm sure they're really, really talented and hardworking. Yes, no, like, make no mistake, right? There's, you know, we talk about like the one dude that did the swinging in Spider-Man 2, you know? It's like having one beast on your dev team
Starting point is 04:00:23 can go a long way, but regardless, like Capcom has beasts. They are a big, successful, talented company that is like 40 years old in this business. They have them. If you go over to Wistful Hopes on Twitter, you can see some of those screenshots of how this project is coming along. And it is not just making Marvel versus Capcom Infinite look like not embarrassing or even like fixing it. It's making it look like the best Marvel versus Capcom game ever. Like the screenshots
Starting point is 04:01:01 and like there's been updates where, you know, they've updated motion blur. They've changed details about the lighting so that like shadows can be lit in a completely different way. I have completely changed how shadows work in the game. I mean, it's just and you're seeing the difference in the screenshots of like some of these supers. Spider-Man, Venom, Ryu, like Ryu, like it looks perfect, it's just, it resembles the artwork that you would see in any fucking art book for Marvel versus Capcom,
Starting point is 04:01:34 like yeah, so shout outs to Max for just, again, just bankrolling his dreams into reality here, and you know, that's's infinite is the one that played really well but was just an absolute nightmare to look at and and here comes here comes this mod so we'll see how this goes in addition to like we didn't even need this because like Marvel 3 community edition Edition was all the hopes and dreams already. But yeah, fuck it. Why not?
Starting point is 04:02:09 Why not make this look incredible too? That's dope. And then beyond that, there's a couple things. We had some Akuma news has been popping in as people have gotten their hands on that build. And not just updates about Akuma and how he plays in Street Fighter 6, but the actual balance patch for Street Fighter 6. The full version is not accessible, but there's a lot of reports coming in for changes across the board for the overall play. We don't have to go point by point through it, but-
Starting point is 04:02:42 Yeah, fuck it. Jamie's HP palm is safe on block. A big- I'm gonna fucking shit my pants if that's true. The biggest overall system changes are that every level two now, while active, cannot allow you to build back meter as aggressively as it could. So- Okay. Anyone that had a level two that was a utility, like an install, Blanka, any of the JP stuff
Starting point is 04:03:13 and Chun-Li as well, you just now don't build back up all that meter while hitting, and then you can just do the level two again and again and again and again. So that's the big one. That makes sense. Yeah, and then the second one is drive reversal, aka the alpha counter, while you're blocking, you can knock them away from you
Starting point is 04:03:32 move has been drastically changed. So one, it's now something that you can do universally while you're getting up from the ground, you just hold the input forward plus, I think, two heavies, and then you'll just do it right away as early as possible, giving everyone, effectively, a universal reversal. So, I would like to leave this bad situation in the corner, please. Is there a universal input I can do for that?
Starting point is 04:04:03 So, throw loops was a big part of the game. You could walk up to someone and just keep looping that throw. And instead of just saying, taking them out or making it so that... They nerfed it so that you can't do it from a back throw off of a parry as much. But now you just can do this universal wake up, get off me, I'm unthrowable for this one hit and get out of a throw loop. The other thing it does is that it's a little bit safer, so you can't quite do the type of punish you could do in the past, so it's went from minus eight to minus six, which again, we don't have to get into the nitty-gritty on it, but it's essentially a major new option
Starting point is 04:04:39 being added to the game where everyone has a reversal now. Everyone has a way out if you guess correctly and you spend some resources. That's interesting. And it's an interesting way of dealing with things like we're not taking the throw loop out but we're giving you a way to spend a resource to get out of it but you can still eat it if you fuck up or if you don't have the resources. So they're definitely tweaking the game in a way that is like still respecting the fact that it's like,
Starting point is 04:05:07 this is the most balanced Street Fighter has ever launched. We're gonna make a couple of tweaks here and there, but they're being pretty conservative so far and killing like an overall play style across the board, which is like infinite level two regenning, you know? And then second, a lot of 2xKO footage has been coming out and people have been getting hands on with that. Oh yeah.
Starting point is 04:05:31 And... Excited to have that brick your fucking computer! Lot of, lot of footage, lot of footage of Illaoi doing cool shit that seems really dope. And I'm like, aw man, I can't wait to use the big strong girl, she's got a weird tentacle pot. However, it is a Riot game and all Riot games use Vanguard, don't they? They do!
Starting point is 04:06:00 That's their anti-cheat. It's a kernel level, it loads up when you start your computer and Was it was that tweet the first thing I believe it was okay? It's like well if you're running a virtual machine. It would just go catch you in a straight-up fucking boot loop forever, so yeah Tweet came out that says vanguard is literally bricking PCs Yep came out that says Vanguard is literally bricking PCs. Yep. Hey, remember all that shit people were going nuts about? Like don't let the kernel level anti-cheat on your computer that starts with the PC because you don't know if it'll ... Oh yeah, no, there it is. It finally happened. Yep, no, it's fucked. It's fucked. It's breaking
Starting point is 04:06:38 people's computers. Riot says no confirmation. Nuh-uh. Totally not happening. Well, GeForce says yeah, it is because G-Force now no longer works for Riot game. RotRow. So, yeah, I just saw... What I saw was the tweet that was just like, here's the uninstall option. Do this immediately.
Starting point is 04:07:01 Do not risk it. Yeah, no. Riot's doubling down on it basically, saying no, that's not the issue. So basically there was a patch that dropped for League of Legends and that was last Tuesday. So it's so yeah, how does this Like this happens because they're they're basically they're they're pulling out so okay, I'll just I'll just skip ahead in a bunch so you Install it and then it installs Vanguard and says please restart your computer so that Vanguard can start alongside your computer and have like level zero permissions to make sure that you don't cheat start alongside your computer and have like level zero permissions to make sure that you don't cheat. But they put out an update for Vanguard where it would start and it would recognize system 32 files as dangerous and disable them during your boot, which would
Starting point is 04:07:53 cause you to enter into a boot loop forever. And the solution for some people was downgrade to Windows 10. Maybe. That's fucking crazy. And this okay, and there yeah, I'm like, and like, was there there's that you mentioned it, but like the I feel like I saw a tweet mentioning something about the video cards and like it's the fact that they no longer were working with the force now is G force is streaming service to play games? And the update had something to do with that?
Starting point is 04:08:27 Oh yeah, because Vanguard means that GeForce Now no longer works because I think it's not compatible with GeForce Now's technology. Like that's the, because all that streaming stuff is a PC somewhere that plays the game and then sends it to you? Well, it doesn't work on those fucking computers probably because they're running multiple instances of virtual machines Okay, okay, yeah, I was I was trying to get the gist of the story And the worst part is they're still cheaters. Are you fucking kidding me? Oh, yeah, absolutely
Starting point is 04:08:59 Oh God damn it. Alright. Yeah. Cool. Cool. Cool. Um.
Starting point is 04:09:12 Man. Yeah, I guess 2X- Play Project L on your console. 2XKO consoles. Can't wait. Um, let's find out what the lag situation is. Let's find out if the PC version has less lag. I don't think it'll matter if the risk is
Starting point is 04:09:30 destroy your computer. Yes, but just to know. Just to know what we're dealing with here. Looks like it's time to fucking console up for 2XKO. Boy, all right. soul up for 2xKO. Uh, boy. Alright. Being forced to not be able to play League of Legends because you bricked your computer
Starting point is 04:09:52 is a positive thing. Ah. It is a sign is what it is. We were, we are wrong. That is true. This is good. Actually. I saw a funny TikTok of a guy streaming League and he was like League is so toxic and someone
Starting point is 04:10:05 in his chat said, Lee's not that toxic, it's just people enacting drama. So he decides to go in a chat and go, Hey everyone, good game. And somebody just immediately responds with the go kill yourself blank, blank, blank, blank. For sure. And it's like, yeah, no, it's like the worst thing ever. It's crazy. The console versions of these games are gonna be like fucking... Like...
Starting point is 04:10:26 Okay, League of Legends Wild Rift coming to consoles? Hey, guess what? You won't be able to talk to people in that. So that's like a way better game by default. Ping system and gestures. Oh, who even gives a shit? It doesn't even matter. It doesn't even matter. Life finds a way a way man they'll find a way all right
Starting point is 04:10:50 let's take some of letters hey if you want to send in a letter send it to castle super beast mail at gmail.com that's castle super beast mail at gmail.com please keep it brief so we can read it more easily and get to answering you're gonna have to give me your hat size as well, Pat, so that I can get your... What the fuck is going on with the hat thing? I've been seeing it all week. You're goofy.
Starting point is 04:11:12 And I've been afraid to say anything, because I don't know what the deal with the fucking hat is, and I don't want to step on anybody's fucking toes. Like, I haven't even retweeted any of the photos, because I don't know what the fuck it means. Your goofy's in the mail, that's don't know what the fuck it means. Your coofy's in the mail. That's all you need to know. Don't worry about it.
Starting point is 04:11:31 Someone explain to me what the hat is! It means you're in. That's all you need to know. It means you're in. Alright. For the culture One day mm-hmm. I got a big fucking head though actually so that's tough Yeah, you wouldn't think but I have a big fucking head.
Starting point is 04:12:12 It's fine. We're just... That's... I'll pull out, but I will say that... You know, there is a... Get it out of your fucking mouth! I'm just saying, like, there is a side hustle, there's a side stream to be made if you want to just hit up a street corner and start speaking the good word to the people that walk by. I'm not doing that shit. As people walk by, you can let them know what the real deal is. You know as people walk by you can let them know what the real deal is You know, I'm not doing none of that
Starting point is 04:12:53 Just just stand on that soapbox and Tell that poor white kid to clean your slippers, you know All right We got one coming in I don't know what the fuck you're talking about. We got one coming in. Here, let's just keep it simple and simple and clean. Prism says, Dear Jean-Luc Boivin and Darlington Madden. In the original Blair Witch project, much of the scary shit and interpersonal tension was genuine, as the director actually dropped the actors off in the woods and told them
Starting point is 04:13:29 to fuck with each other. Basically- Yeah, and then they fucked with them. All those sounds at night, it's all the director and the cast doing weird goofy shit. Basically, the cast would try to piss each other off on purpose while the crew would stalk them and scare the shit out of them. Apparently the final shot is just some figure in the corner, was actually unintentional. The actress holding the camera dropped it and missed the shot intended by the director, which was supposedly some bullshit cliche spooky witch lady. Had
Starting point is 04:14:00 everything gone as planned, the film would have probably never been as influential as it was and the found footage genre may not Have taken off What can you think of are some great? examples of the intended version of something Being worse than the Compromised or improvised version that ended up happening. So you ever see the studio fucking ending to paranormal activity I Might have it was a bonus feature. I might have but I don't remember cuz there's two versions of the end of paranormal activity
Starting point is 04:14:31 There's the original version and then there's the studio version and the studio version is so bad Oh my god, dude. I feel like I watched the the the bonus and forgot what it was So the the studio version is the one that played in theaters. It's the one where at the very end, the girl gets possessed and flies towards the camera like a monster. Okay. Right? Okay.
Starting point is 04:15:00 I'm just going to spoil the end of paranormal activity, by the way. And in the original ending that the director wanted, right? She just gets up and goes downstairs. And then the husband goes, oh, yeah, that's weird. She's not in the bedroom and goes downstairs. And then you just hear screaming and screaming and screaming and silence. screaming and screaming and screaming and silence. And then you see the tape skip forward to daytime, and then you hear cops entering the building and yelling at her to get down.
Starting point is 04:15:36 Right, right, right, right, right. Yes, yes, okay, I remember now. Yeah, yeah, yeah, okay. And it's way better. So much more effective, yeah. Uh-huh. I mean, there's a couple of classic ones. I feel like I've brought it up many times, but Hans Gruber, right?
Starting point is 04:15:54 The release. I mean, Die Hard Stunt Coordinator is like, at the end of Die Hard, has got Alan Rickman, and he goes, okay, I'm going gonna let you go on the count of five. All right, five, four, and then lets him go. And so that Alan Rickman face of, eee, is real. Yeah, he is absolutely terrified,
Starting point is 04:16:17 because it's like, what the fuck, he was prepared for five seconds, you gave him two. Dropped early, it's great. No, I don't want acting I want fear um obviously fucking Harrison Ford with the I love this with with with dysentery or whatever the fuck he had you had the shit oh no I was just gonna say the I love you I know oh I was thinking of him when he was shitting his pants in Indiana Jones he's like can we just skip this whole scene fuck this shot yeah yeah yeah that that too right so that's two good ones there you know I
Starting point is 04:16:55 think I think I can think of one that is the probably the most famous ultimate serendipitous mistake in a film in In Midnight Cowboy, I'm walking here, when Dustin Hoffman and his co-actor are walking through New York City, there's a taxi that ignored the film shooting and actually damn near runs them over for real. And Dustin Hoffman go I'm walking here is real super real And it's been it just works into the scene There's a in fellowship of the ring Fuck this. I'm yeah Aragorn like kicks a helmet You know and during at one point and then pauses for a beat and then drops and goes ah
Starting point is 04:17:45 I just fucking loses it and screams. It's because he broke his toes Kicking the helmet, but it just pulled fucked it, but it played into the shot perfectly you know oh No No, he did it was the two towers, okay my mistake And No? No, he did. It was the two towers. Okay, my mistake. And then another super famous one besides Dustin Hoffman was the Leave the Gun, Take the Canoli. Mm-hmm. That's not so much a mistake.
Starting point is 04:18:20 Oh man, 0-2 in the chat. The Breaking Bad pizza on the roof is a mistake. What's the story behind that one? So, so Brian Cranston is supposed to do the fucking shot where he's so pissed off. He throws the pizza and he just happened to land perfectly on the roof and Cranston didn't know what to do. So we just kind of stared at it and didn't know how to act Okay, and that's the shot that went into Breaking Bad
Starting point is 04:18:48 Which apparently led to like Nightmares for the people who bought that house. Yes that is that I like a security fence because people would just Go to what Albuquerque? Where is and and go to the fucking house and just toss pizzas on the fucking roof all day Okay, is there some kind of Lord of the Rings? Factoid bit that I'm missing here or people quote that back No, what it is is that did you know that Aragon broke his foot in this scene is like one of the most annoying? Husband telling wife while watching the nerd movie bits of trivia conceivable is it?
Starting point is 04:19:28 Yeah, I didn't know it's it's on the same level of watching last of us and going That's the guy who plays Joel in the game. I see I see gotcha all right. Thank you For what it's worth. We're answering the question. I mean, it was not unvolunteered information. Alright, yeah, that's a bunch of good ones. Cool. Alright. Good business. That's good.
Starting point is 04:19:55 That's good. I am eagerly awaiting news from Universal Media Group over the coming week. There are rumblings, I don't care, I wanna talk about there are rumblings. There are, there are. Universal media group. There are rumblings. Is telling Kendrick to shut the fuck up and he's like, nah.
Starting point is 04:20:19 Now, you are finding out first hand just how many, as you're following this, how much bullshit is developed and how quickly people. I don't care, it's fucked up. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I did, there's a whole bunch of people that lie about shit to just try to get something popping off. So it's annoying when it confuses what's real and what's not
Starting point is 04:20:42 when you're like, is this actually happening? And then you bring it up a week later and people are like, that was confirmed fake. And it was like, oh, well, fuck. Yeah, well, I had my fun while I thought it was real. I guess I don't live in that world. I live in a very, you know, I don't I hate it. But it is it is cromulent. These rumors, these rumors are cromulent, I believe. Listen, man, listen, if President comes out tomorrow and says, listen, there's fucking
Starting point is 04:21:10 moon bears, okay, there's bears on the moon attacking the moon base, I'm gonna be with him for a minute, because that's fun. I think, I think fun is there's a limit that a rat beef can get to when it's profitable for all parties and everybody is Having a good time with all the super attention. They're getting and then that exact threshold Is the moment you drop the fucking a minor line So I is like all this is no longer fun. This is now a threatened Empire Oh, no, there are millions So music group give a shit about This rap beef and then I looked it up and I was like, oh universal music group is the label that at the top
Starting point is 04:21:55 Has both Drake and Kendrick. So it's their their their employees are fighting each other in the break room Like like you have to think the thing about it is that like, Drake is Drake Inc, right? It's Oveho Inc, it's the entire, there's all, there's the whole thing, the tour, the giant, like the production that goes into being fuckin' just Walmart ass background pop, like, you know, that takes a lot of people and employees that are
Starting point is 04:22:25 not digging the idea of this heated beef unmaking listen dude the entire goes on what are those ghost writers gonna do how are they gonna feed their ghost families oh man oh man and Kendrick Kendrick has bars on ghost writers too from early in the day because like that's one of the things where he was apparently early on in his career a ghostwriter that Would write fire for others, you know Man like so he has he has that extra little thing, you know towards it So this is not specific to rap music obviously
Starting point is 04:22:57 But like I feel like every single person has like the same opinion on ghost writers Which is if you don't pretend that you wrote your songs, who gives a shit? But if you do pretend that you wrote your own songs and you didn't, go fuck yourself. Oh no. Oh no. I don't think the monkeys were out there fucking pretending that they were anything other than a Beatles knockoff, but I like some of the monkey songs. So I can guarantee you that there's a state that a lot of artists get to, like where you have someone like Drake sitting in a room with a bunch of his friends,
Starting point is 04:23:29 and the concept of the ghost write doesn't quite equate to, here is some pen and paper written up versus for you, sir. But it's more like, yeah, and then I would do something like, and then you pause and then someone else in the room says something and goes like, yeah, yeah, yeah. And then- Oh, that's lame as fuck, dude. You know what I mean? It's kind of this, like, you have this little fucking game
Starting point is 04:23:50 of improv freeze tag, you know, where you're like, yeah, we're kind of all doing it together, but it really was me, but it's kind of not me, you know? It's that little, like, I'm in the room, we're in the room together, you know, there was a point- Hey, listen, I don't know anything about anything, but if I had- if I went with my gut on this, I would say the reason why the Heart Park 6 is so trash and doesn't make any sense is because Drake was like, I'm gonna write this one myself.
Starting point is 04:24:17 With nobody's help. It's gonna be all me. Haha idiot. I thought you'd think I was a pedophile. I tricked you! I tricked you into thinking I did it! I got all the master plan! Don't you look stupid now! Woo!

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