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["Sailor Moon Theme"] Fighting games.
Fighting games.
It's time for fighting games.
Fighting games.
Uh oh. It's one of those weeks. I mean,
hey, you know, this year, only one. Only one. Only one dreaded comment about, oh no, I wonder
what it's going to be about this week. Oh, because those people all died skeletons skeletons they all drank
their poison and died with headphones on they said I can't do it another week I
can't I literally can't here I go just like so crates did I mean I wish like I
wish like it again in an alternate reality somewhere, like it's just this but for like racing games or something.
Just going in hard every time there's a,
is there a big racing game championship?
What would there be to fucking talk about?
I mean, Rocket League is pretty fun.
That's not a racing game!
Yeah.
That's just soccer!
It's you in a car. Yeah. Yeah. If you, wait, Wully, if you in a car is your definition
of racing games, then genres have just all died. That is too broad.
No, what I want to see, the numbers I need are are I need the metrics on people who are like
I don't know what they're talking about and stuff
But it's like that was that way like five years ago
But now it's like oh, I've played a little bit and then a little further is like, oh actually I'm messing
But with buttons and I'm playing a modern look I need to know how many people went from I don't want to hear this shit
To converts I need data so that I can I can
Know that the shit I'm doing is working.
Or is it just for every one we get, there's one that walks away and so it just stays in
perpetual flux?
I would say that in our audience that we are personally reaching via our streams and the podcast, it would
be unlikely if they had somehow reached this point without going, maybe I should try fighting
games.
Let's see what they're on about.
I'll tell you.
I feel like it would be ridiculous that they got all the way here and then what?
Yeah, America won this time. Yeah. All right USA USA
Then there is there is of course, yeah
There are there certainly are those who are just like actually I hate I and I like them less now
I hear about it too much which god bless the but there's definitely one things for sure is every year
Which God bless the but there's definitely one things for sure is every year at EVO more and more people are like yo What's up here because of gotten into fisticuffs and then you know watch the streams messed around pressed buttons
and I'm here to spectate or I'm here to play, you know and
That's fun to always see that number go up and more and more and more each time
But like the new thing as well,
so last couple years it's been an increasing amount
of people that are just like,
yeah, I'm here to spectate, I just wanna watch
and I love this shit, you know?
And it's at the highest it's ever been now.
But with that, some of the folks
that were those people a couple years ago are now getting higher and higher in the brackets and like, you know, matches on stream and getting further along and stuff.
So it's like, oh shit, like folks that were, you know, like someone rocking a get into fighting games shirt popping up on stream, you know, is becoming less and less of a rare occurrence.
And that's super cool. It's fun to see that like folks that are able to like get out of pools and fucking you know go the distance.
I feel like I saw a reddit post just yesterday that was like hey Wooly thanks a lot I started
at iron and now I'm in master and it's Luke is screenshot with getting into master rank
and I'm like bro I'm not even in fucking master rank.
That's awesome.
Holy shit.
Yeah.
And again, like, you know, there was quite a few people I spoke to that were like, yeah,
man, you know, like been watching and getting in, made it to round two, you know,
made it past that point and like different games as well getting different placements.
Hell, like Combo Breaker, I think I was talking about the literally DNF, the guy who won and
like a bunch of people in all these other brackets were just like going all the way
from watching this dumb shit and getting into it, you know?
So it's working.
That's good.
That's exciting.
It's fun.
I love it.
Evo, my voice is back, thankfully. I know it sounded like death not too long ago, and
people were very concerned when I jumped on Max's stream for two seconds, but that was
a temporary state due to the events of the night before.
Was that Florielin?
That was Florielin.
Is that from Hooten and
Holleran? That was from, if you can probably go and hear the exact moments that my voice
got destroyed if you go back to the third strike finals. Because yeah, like there's
literally, I mean I wish there was like, I wish we got it on camera, but it's literally me and Reggie backs to the stage, yelling
at the crowd, fighting against the entire arena.
It was so sick.
But I suppose we can start at the beginning.
So I suppose the beginning is the question I ask every year, which is what freak beast
did they set you up in pools to die on this year?
Oh, well, nothing of note.
Nothing of note.
Just my own unpracticing ineptitude followed by back-to-back JPs. A JP on either side just used their stick
to shove me under the water and drown my ass. And that was that.
You know?
You know, JP is like such a fun archetype because like he's not the best character in
the game. I mean, like, Cammy won this time and it was
Blanca last, you know, whatever, right? But I'm like, uh, fuck them though. Fuck them
and fuck JP players. Fuck them.
It was, it was funny cause we were, yeah, we were like having a whole discussion about
it cause it's like a lot of people that were being carried by JP switched off when the
nerfs came. But, um, but fundamentally a lot of those nerfs were things that were like, again, that ridiculous
counter getting not destroyed, but just it's not the same level of advantage.
The inability for him to make meter as easily as he could before, and then buttons getting
more hittable, essentially.
But I didn't sign up, I didn't sit down to play Street Fighter today so I could play Blaze Blue Calamity Trigger.
There you go. But the fundamental way the character still works when he gets in the car and hits the gas is he's going to sit there and he's going to fucking toss it at you. And that doesn't change. So that was that's still just as annoying as ever to deal with. And yeah, I just again, I just got hit with it one right into the other and I was like, oh, it's just it's fucking JP weekend
All right, man. This is a bad matchup for my brain. Huh? Thank. Oh, hopefully the next oh
Great. Oh awesome. I mean all I could do is laugh. I all like literally when I saw him pop up the second time
I'm just like yeah, okay
like sure man, you know Sure, man. But all
things considered, yeah, that was me just getting sticked into the dirt. Reggie, Chipotle
champ, of course, got his Chipotle card and made it pretty far into round two of the so out of his pools you go that you go you move
into round two is the second part of the bracket.
Won three matches in that and yeah and then lost really just again plays really tight
and awesome and you know the thing with the Yvo of course is just like you're you're hitting
people at every degree of preparation
and every degree of possible skill.
You're gonna find someone along your line somewhere in there.
And there's always just like,
how comfortable are you in high pressure environments,
and different settings.
Like pools are kind of like a quiet thing.
Everyone's not a quiet,
but everyone's around doing their thing.
Sometimes friends are around and stuff. But when you go to day two is when you're going
to have the much bigger crowds, because it's like anytime any notable American or Japanese player
is around and they have a giant crowd around them, that might be the person you're up against next,
or that might be happening in your pool. You have to get way more ready for playing in that sort of
pop-off tournament setting and have the ability to just zone
out what's happening around you.
What is your personal fortitude in dealing with the situation of crowd, name, influence,
and the reality that someone is pissing their pants in one of the spectator chairs behind
you, floating in it.
That shit's disgusting.
Unbeknownst.
That shit's disgusting.
Street Fighter's making it.
It's getting big, dude.
It's getting big like card games.
Fucking gross.
I hate that that turned out to actually be a thing.
Because the first thing was like, oh, look at these shit stains on the chairs.
That wasn't from-
I was like, actually, that's from a magic tournament. And then I was like, no, but at these shit stains on the chairs. Like that was actually that's from another tournament.
And I was like, no.
But then here's this picture of piss on the chair.
And it's like, yeah, that happens.
And it's like, ah, anyway, just washing in it.
I mean, I don't know if I'm pretty sure I have the the how we got here type of thing of that.
But I mean, we can get into that
It's a Street Fighter force fault somehow
the the I think the the like the side bit with that is like the
Sunday venue
packed situation
was
it was rough and I think like a
lot of what was set up
was like, pretty much perfect. But like they had a capacity
problem there. And
yeah, I heard that some people were stuck outside for so
nonsense. Okay, so like the way this works, because Rick's been
doing a fucking unbelievable job on everything. And I think this is probably
like the is probably the biggest stumbling block that he that he's hit with the stuff
he's been running so far. CB has been fucking immaculate and EVO has been great. The thing
with last year was the last the last couple years, EVO moved over to Mandalay Bay, right? It was always coming at,
it was always at different casinos and like ballrooms inside of resorts and stuff at Vegas.
So from when I first started going, you know, there was like Caesar's Palace, they took out
the top room there, it was big. They moved over to, you know, they were at the Wynn at one point,
et cetera. And then they, I think they had like a multi-year contract or so for a while to be at Mandalay
Bay, which has a pretty big event space. And then separate from that, there's the Mandalay
Bay, like, like UFC arena, the thing I always talk about where it's like a giant thing in
the round, right? So I think basically what happens is that they hit capacity on the actual space where the tournament is
happening, where the vendors and the setups are, where people are playing for Friday and
Saturday. And then the Sunday booth, the Sunday event arena can take way more people than
the actual event space can. So the tickets were sold separately and they
kind of like were always like, they didn't fill out that space because whatever they
were hitting at capacity here would be more or less what you'd expect to get on Sunday.
So it's kind of like, ah, it sucks to be able to not have to have be able to like you could
have you could do more here, here you're walled off and you've already like the last couple years where they,
you know, we're talking about like 12,000 or 14,000, like these numbers going up with stuff every
year. If you hit capacity in your venue and you know that the popularity is going to increase and
more people are going to come to not just participate but spectate next year, you have to
find a way to open that space up, right? So yeah, they're have to add more space, get a bigger space or limit capacity.
Exactly.
So as far as the spectating on Sunday goes, yeah, the main space with this with the that
they had could hold more.
But it was also something where as a separate ticket, not everybody, you know, was like
able to get that ticket in some cases if they waited too long and stuff like that.
But the but the other part being hitting that capacity was like, yeah, that's not great.
What they basically did was they moved to the one bigger place that you can, which is,
as far as I understand, the largest convention center in America, the Las Vegas Convention
Center.
It's the only step up for the capacity to go.
Right.
And it's a fucking, yeah, it's a Goliath of a venue.
Because I mean, for our scale, think of like our Palais de
Congrès, which is our Montreal Convention Center.
And then imagine.
It's not that big.
Yeah, and just imagine tripling that over on its length multiple times.
Then what they more or less did was they had the first third as the area where all the
booths were set up where you could walk around.
It's the con.
Fighting game con is happening in the first third.
All the things to go play, bring your own setups, et cetera.
All the arcades are over there and you can just shop, play, bring your own setups, etc. All the all the arcades are over there,
and you can just shop, play, have fun. The second third was where the brackets were running.
And they just had like all the scheduled events that were, you know, from, yeah, from all
the pools that had to go through were just in that second space. And then on the edges
of that space were the main stages for each game, you know, whenever they
had like a stream running or whenever there was like a big top 24 match or something that
was on those.
And then the third space was the finals arena that was not open on Friday, that opened up
Saturday and Sunday for the big crazy EVO stays where all the finals would happen.
So with that set up, it allowed each of these spaces to have
enough people to flow move through and do what they need to
do bathrooms on all sides and everything all set up. The arena
that they more or less built my understanding is that it had a
capacity of about 10k. And then the but and like there was 10K or so like players,
and then there was another 10K or so spectators, right?
That's a lot.
So the idea was that there was gonna be a capacity
for the stage, and then all the setups
where the pools are gonna be and all the screens in there
become a stream watching space,
where you can watch the event from, you know, in the round in there become a stream watching space where you can watch the event from,
you know, in the round over there. And then that's also where like Max had his live watch
thing where because he was he was up in the Max tower looking down, you know, like Tachibana
wiping the screens off for nine seconds. But then they came down on finals day and they
were having it there. So you could go watch the the max stream, for example,
of him watching it or any of the others were streaming it.
So essentially you would be able to go into the arena or come out to the to the
back area. There was room for everyone if you were in those two areas.
And then what's cool about that is the first area where all the booths are,
they usually have to tear that down on the last day. But in this case, they didn't have to.
The booth stayed up the entire time.
People were able to go play the arcades, go check out games, do whatever they wanted to
do and stay at the booths if they wanted to during finals day, which is awesome.
So I guess the idea there was going to be, all right, people would go in and come out of the finals arena and then,
you know, watch, go back and like kind of go watch it at the second stage area or so.
But like, if you went in previous years, what would happen a lot of times, like, because it was like
the UFC kind of, you know, baseball stadium setup, you just go into there and people would stay there
the whole day. And then there'd be like, stadium, you setup, you just go into there and people would stay there the whole day and then there'd be like stadium,
you know, accommodations and go around
to like little stadium booth things
and then stadium bathroom seating and stuff
and you'd be in all your sections.
So it was more or less ready for like that type of setup
and that type of crowd.
I feel like in this case, people going in
that are planning to stay there the whole day,
like you're not gonna be able to have,
it's not gonna be comfortable because you're
in there.
And if you're holding that seat throughout every game the entire time, leaving means
you're going to go back into this line, which is nuts because it's at the capacity point.
And I know that at one point I saw Rick himself literally walking the line of infinite people explaining what was going
on the whole way through, which is like, I'm like, that's like, he's the type of dude that
would do that. I can absolutely see that. And it was incredible.
It's like a weekend where everyone is trying to fit themselves into a baseball stadium
to watch a 16 hour baseball game. Yeah.
Three days in a row. How warm is the venue?
It was cold.
It was very conditioned.
It was fucking frosty.
Oh yeah, Las Vegas man.
Las Vegas.
It knows it's in a desert.
They know that the location is an affront to God.
No, they blasted that shit.
It was, you know, like you probably, I didn't, I was, when I go to Vegas, I'm like, you
know, t-shirts and shorts the whole time.
But like for the venue, I'm like, maybe a, maybe a little light jacket just in case I get kind of cold.
But yeah, so that's the thing. If you're going into finals day on Sunday, and you want to hold
that seat for the entire day for watching all fighting game top sixes in the Mandalay Bay arena, you could kind of do that here not as much.
And essentially, it's like if you could walk out to the second area and get that viewing experience,
but if you didn't want to leave, it was going to be rough for food, for bathrooms, for all that shit.
I have a question. You said something that activated something in my brain. I may or may not have an answer
Why did you just say top six because top six is?
What goes up on the main stage now at Evo?
It became that about two years ago or so or was it last year the first time I forget
It's no longer the top eight and I think it was in the interest of-
Who gets cut?
The seventh place matches.
So-
Like losers or winners bracket?
Well, so in any, when you have a top eight bracket, usually you end up having one, two,
three, four, and then two people tied for fifth, and then two people tied for seventh. Yeah. So the people tied for seventh end up being not on the main stage. And that sucks because
it's like, yo, top eight has been the significant thing for the longest while now. But I think it
was just straight up in the interest of time. And I think it was just a decision that was made to
be like, hey, we're trying to get people in here and then out of here at a decent hour to
not have evil run until like 4 a.m. Or whatever, to not have these crowd
problems exacerbate and become worse and to not have the event have to start at
6 a.m. Either. Um, it was nice that they have eliminated things like, like 8 a.m.
pools. Now you don't have to worry about that shit and stuff. But I think the
part of going to top six is just to make the time part of it work. I prefer-
I see folks saying that it's for ads. Do you believe that as merit?
Ad time is definitely part of that too. But people, they're sponsors and stuff. But there
always have been. I think that top eight is just the traditional thing we're all used to. And I
think that's always what it's been and it feels worth it.
You know, when you fight to get on the stage for that in the bracket.
But all the time, every year where that's been the case or whatever, it's always just
been like, okay, it's just, it's going to start crazy early, it's going to run stupid
late, everyone's going to be fucking dead, it's
going to feel bad, and if you are trying to get into the arena and hold your seat the
entire time, so be it. But I know not everyone was happy with that, I certainly wasn't, but
at this point it's just a lock and they're running top six. That's what it's been for,
this wasn't the first year.
And that's just EVO, because I, I've heard top eight at other places
Yeah, it's just it's just that's just Evo. Um, that's probably why that deleted from my brain if that was in fact last year already I mean I assure you like it's it's not just the advertising element of that like from talking to people I know and stuff
It's it but like it's time. It's the all the issues with capacity
It's all these things right like you get you get in and then get out and you can have a lot,
there's more flexibility with less time or whatever.
I have a better idea for time.
Okay.
I think that you could have top eight for all the games
and have later pools and have everything fit nice
if we just had the first like,
up to the semi-finals or quarterfinals of Mortal Kombat,
and then just have Sonic Fox come out
and just hand him the trophy.
And then just cut the whole fucking thing.
Hand them the trophy, I agree with that 100%, yes.
In fact, just.
Yeah, just give them the trophy.
Right? Right? Just be like, here you go, again. I mean, I. You yes in fact just give them a trophy right right
again I mean I what just keep just keep it at home and we'll just send you a
sticker to put on it every year Pat you actually went further than me because
my follow I was waiting in the cut after you were done to say we or we could just
cut Mortal Kombat but okay you know but but you know, hey you got there with it, right? Absolutely
I'm sitting there and and I'm you know, I'm scrolling on Twitter and it's like Sonic Fox won more combat again
I'm like, oh, yeah, of course it did. Yeah, it entered in and left because it's it's such a non factor and
It's it's like and it's but it's also what do they even pop off or they just like yes, thank you
Well, it's like it's like no matter how, it
doesn't matter how the game is playing,
how anyone's feeling about it, whatever's happening,
it's like, yeah, it's just this is what's going down,
regardless.
Now, of course, this is assuming, of course,
that the right version of the game is running too as well
because
Oh I heard about that, that's a mess dude
A game had to, a game, there was a match that had to be replayed because it was on the wrong
version in top 6
And the fucking winner inverted as a result
Garbage, garbage sucks, sucks
So yeah man, Mortal Kombat.
You know, and it's, I talked about how the signups were at
CB were like really rough and wild because again, it was like
you know, Tekken 1800, Street Fighter 1600, MK1 250, right? That's wild for a brand new game, but it's also not
wild for the game that is, hey, everybody check out the fatalities. All right. Are you
gone? Are they gone? Okay, cool. Later. You know, like, so yeah, there's no, there's,
there's just the fact that there's no staying power to that, man. It's a bummer because it's like the whole thing I'm trying to do, which is like, yo,
let's get people to stick around and play these games.
It's like, that's not the game that gets people to stick around.
They come and then it like shoots them away really quickly.
But yeah, we could probably get more time back if you just straight up fucking Lord
of the Flies one of those games, you know. Yeah, but hey, hey, the I
would say that like upfront, that's the shit that like, didn't
go smoothly. And I will say that everything else was fucking
awesome. I had a great time. It was very cool.
And the evil is one of those things to which it's like, okay,
I'm going to, I've learned my lesson at this point, I'm going to loosely, like plan, like vague things for each day. But
at any given moment, those are going to get tossed and turned upside
down. So fuck it.
It's a location and a crowd and a vibe that is contingent on, oh, I've made plans for
the whole day and then, oh, wow, I haven't seen you in a year. Hey, we're going over
here. And then your whole day is gone because you're in a pit crab fighting or something.
And you know, you wanna obviously go for drinks
and chill and do stuff and whatever you can,
but you're like, there's only so much you can do.
So, well, I was able to see and hang out with Suzie
for a bit on the first day there.
That was a lot of fun catching up over there.
And I think like the Friday was just, although actually no, it was Thursday.
Yeah, because we landed on Thursday because like, okay, even getting there and getting
back is getting more and more tricky because like-
Well, this year was extra special.
Well, so we landed before the fucking insane Microsoft bullshit happened.
So thankfully that didn't affect the flight because I had to get it super early.
But more and more people, those flights used to be like, oh yeah, flight to Vegas,
there's a couple of days straight, direct, it's not that bad. And it's gotten more and more
difficult to get a decent time and difficult to get decent seats as well. And it's gotten more and more difficult to get a decent time and difficult to get decent
seats as well. And it's like because more and more people are going to Evo. And in line,
I saw people that I haven't seen since fucking college that are just like, oh yeah, we're
just going to check it out. I was like, whoa, holy shit. Like, yeah, okay, no, this is,
people are traveling for just the spectacle of checking it out now. And as a result, yeah, there's like less options on on on how to get there over over over the years.
I think the most tragic one that I saw was Harada himself with his shit all fucked up going, I'm taking an Uber from Vegas.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
I assume that was he had a connecting flight that was just not gonna happen man
It was nuts and like people we knew were like in the air
While the did the shit the shutdown happened and like had to fly in circles and then get rerouted to land like it's like
Die-hard too, man. God damn it
You know why that happened, right?
Because Microsoft's right shit because Microsoft fucking bullshit.
I want to blame it on edge. I want to blame it on edge somehow.
You can't, unfortunately.
So CrowdStrike is a company that does like software, whatever the
Dell lots of companies like to use.
And they pushed out a bad update that blue screens your shit.
But what was more
interesting than that is that people did some digging and one year ago they're like crowd,
you know, crowd strikes having a lot of trouble filling cyber security positions. So we're going
to turn to generative AI to help shore up some of the workload. Oh, come on. It can't be that predictable. It is literally, literally,
that someone fucking slotted in some goddamn AI code
and didn't check it.
Okay.
Because it went out without test.
And it crippled the whole world's infrastructure.
Well, Microsoft, I apologize.
It appears it is not you at fault then oh don't worry
We'll have plenty of that in fact
No, no it is not Microsoft. It is not their fault in fact I
Have a new thing
You're holding an object I can smack x-bob with this pipe. Oh, oh I see I see okay, okay
When when I went when it needs to know its place gotcha, okay?
Anyway, yeah, so the the
Fortunately that was avoided but getting in on the on the Thursday
Yeah, so the the
The whole thing was like, okay. Let me let's, let me see if I can squeeze in there.
I ran into Kenny and Steve and JJ and stuff.
They're all around and everything was like, okay, I got to go up and see the suite.
So I was going to make plans to do that.
And then fucking Henry aka Chirithy, Chithy, the Montreal Chun-Li player.
You've been hearing me say that name for years on the podcast probably and stuff.
Just has been playing out of his mind for the last couple, for the last two years.
He's been touring around playing a lot of Third Strike everywhere and going to France,
going to EVO Japan, et cetera, and just went on a fucking tear and just took on everybody
in the...
This is the year that they had the Legacy Third Strike Tournament as well, which was
awesome because it's the biggest Third Strike Tournament that's ever happened.
With over a thousand participants, it's literally like, this is history for this game.
The children love Third Strike.
And yeah.
And like it is one of the games too that is just, I mean, you know, we've talked about
it forever, but it's the most respected, you know what I mean?
It's like it has like, it asks a lot of you and it has, and while being the most respected,
it also features copious amounts of bullshit and it kind of just goes to show you.
It's like there was never a mythical time
where everything was balanced and great and fair.
Oh, my God. Third Strike so busted.
This never existed.
But there was that point in time where it was like discovered, like, well, not
discovered, but it was codified like, yeah yeah, no Q is like goddamn awful. Mm-hmm awful
Except for that guy over there who does nothing but play Q every single day of his fucking life, right? No, he's good
He's making me rethink the tier list and so, you know like we so we ran over to see it's like oh shit
You know Henry made he made it all the way out of he made it out of the the the initial
pools made it beyond round two. And he's like, he's playing for top 24, you know,
so it's like, Oh, we ran over to watch the match and like, he fucking does it and
we pop off and it's hype. And then it's like, Okay, okay. Now let we have to go
back. We have to go back over to the booths because we weren't finished
checking out stuff. It's like, wait, hold on, we have to go back We have to go back over to the booths because we weren't finished checking out stuff It's like wait, hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Watch this batch. That's like what's going on over here
It's like yo, this Hugo player is fucking nasty
Right like oh my god, and then yeah, and then Henry and then you nest again the the other
Bunch of folk that we travel with are just like oh, yeah. No, you need to know this dude high out
You need to watch this shit. He's a beast. And he is hilarious. And he poses and he has
so much fun with it. And like just makes it a spectacle every time he's on stage. And
he's always been this way, cosplaying in previous events as well. And in particular, it's not
just the, the, the wild show that he puts on, but like, you know, Henry was telling us,
he's like, this Hugo player has the most disgusting footsies of anyone I've ever played.
I've seen little bits and pieces of clips and it's pretty out there.
And you're like, wait, wait, what?
Hugo?
And he's like, yeah, terrifying, you know?
So it's like, okay, let's watch.
And sure enough, you know, this is on Saturday, like, all right, this is prior to the Friday
rather, you know, he fucking does does sick shit and gets up and does the double arm pose
and is going nuts.
And everyone's like, ah, you know, it's like, okay, yeah, no, this is this is a hero in
the making.
So all the way through fucking top 24,
which we were at the time busy because we had a meeting,
and then came back to get the heads up that like,
yo, fucking, yo, Chirithy made it top six.
Let's go.
And that was like, all right, fuck the plans,
fuck everything we were doing.
We're heading straight over.
And it was on Saturday, so we got into the front,
went to the front of the stage,
and there was Esteban, the best of on who,
I mean, that's the hold back to block, shout outs to them,
but that's his groupie.
Just that dude's, he's mean, he's really nice with a camera and some editing software.
And for the most part, like, it's one of those things
where it's like, yeah, he's always done a great job
and he's running, he's over there with the Evo digital
channel stuff and everything and doing a great job.
But like when you're seeing the production quality
and like the, with the full team and everything going
and the way it's all just, it's like, okay, yeah, no, like, the talent of the crew involved
in making that whole thing run is it's exceptional. It's incredible. It's it's I mean, whatever
you it's the difference between, you know, running your stream setups on Wi Fi at the
back of the Net Cafe, and like a television production for broadcast
you know of a sporting event. It is-
It's nine day.
It's incredible. So you know that was hype running up there and then like yeah just got
we got our seats within the rush the stage distance you know because yo we got to rush
the stage if shit pops off you know and sure enough you know, because yo, we got to rush the stage if shit, it just pops off, you know, and sure enough, you know, like when he started doing it, it was, it
was like, it was awesome to just, I'm like, okay, we need to make sure the stream hears
us scream the MTL chant anywhere, anytime you hear that shit, know that it's us, you
know, and then shouting, Howay, Henry!
You know, like just get the most friend shit across the arena.
And of course, people looking up and over are like,
is that fucking Wooly?
Why is Wooly up there?
They're like, Howay!
Continue comsa!
And...
What is he saying?
I don't understand.
You know. And then, uh, yeah.
And then, but, and then while that's happening, of course, yeah, you got to see, I'm sure, the highlights of Hyao just fucking...
Oh, I've seen some bits.
Just goofy walking out, like, oh, where's the camera? Right? Doing the Luke what? Hit? Oh, there it the camera right doing the Luke what hit up there it is Right amazing stuff like the just all the all the playing to the camera to the crowd to the stage is winning everybody over
You know amazing amazing taking selfies with each match to as well
Absolute legends status with that and then of course
It's not just the poses and the splits with getting cheeked up sitting on the ground either or anything of that.
It's the fact that the level of play is so disgusting, which yeah, they're calling it EVO Moment 38.
You know, the fucking Hugo air parry off the EX Tatsu to land and then get the knockdown, does a standing roundhouse,
which then the wake up Ken does a super,
goes flying underneath him to the other side of the stage.
That was the bit that I saw.
EX-LAR, yeah.
I'm looking at what's probably the best Hugo ever.
Insanity, absolute insanity.
And like I got up and ran forward
and then everyone just rushed to stage to be like, yeah.
And I was, yeah, I was right there behind in the group and just like, it was fucking
that was, it was nuts. No one could believe what they just saw, you know? And you, and again,
you're like this game and everything it asks of you to have that level of control. And yeah,
absolute beast. So what a play. It was sick. Not to get, not to mention as well, the previous
It was sick not to get not to mention as well the previous
Cross-up Tatsu parry to 720 as well that he did
And you know like I think it's awesome to see that and you're seeing so you're seeing a Hugo crushing it in the bracket you're seeing MOV picking Elina with healing and
You know and MOV is like he can just play any character he can do whatever he
wants he's the fucking god of that game you know what I mean he can just do
whatever but he's like yeah he's gonna pick that he's gonna press buttons he's
gonna hang out he's gonna chill and like you're gonna see that in your your your
your top eight or your top six you know it's it's it was fucking it was sick it
was a lot of fun and then yes I, I mean, Henry just doing it, right?
Getting in there and like, I feel as well.
So when he, he put like going all the way up
to a final game against Issei and then losing
and then coming from, he was in the winner's bracket,
then coming back around, he has to fight Issei again.
And then same thing, three, two, down to the last touch.
You know, it's like, oh
He could it's apt. It was it was within
coin flip fucking distance of that just one touch one exchange, you know, and the thing is to as well it's like he's
In his time traveling and stuff like he's fought against all the legends and stuff at this point and has had the experience and chance and like
Him and MOV have gone back and forth
and he's like, yeah, that's a mirror match basically
because he picked Chun-Li.
And then he's like, and it's extremely doable.
Like he's done it.
So that could have been an all the way situation, you know?
But it went the way it went.
He got third place at the biggest
third strike tournament ever.
Third place in the world at third strikes, nothing to sneeze at.
Couldn't be prouder, you know.
And yeah, just the amount of hard work and fucking time put into that.
Like, watching the level of dedication, you know, to like, okay, this is what it takes
to get this good and to play this well under these circumstances and stuff.
And the process of getting good at fighting games and like getting that good is really just at all things really. It's getting rid of surprises one by one.
It's the process of eliminating all surprises from the equation, right? First, there's
the game. You want to get rid of all surprises by making sure you know what can happen in the game.
What the characters can do, what they can do to you, to each other, and all the things
that occur.
Right?
Then you're like, great, I know the game.
Now, what about the environment?
Getting used to the environment, the types of setups you play on, all that stuff factors
in as well.
There's a lot of times where you might be like
Amazing online at home with your beats and discord open and you're an online god
But if you've never been IRL you've never felt that you've never had people next to you
You've never had the noise the sound etc, and it fucks you up, right?
You've it's a lot that makes a huge difference
and in some cases it's as simple as a Right? It's a lot. That makes a huge difference.
And in some cases, it's as simple as like every Japanese tournament runs on the arcade
cabinet.
They have the machine for Thirst Strike just running right there.
Here they had the kind of like arcade hardware on the CRT screen with a super gun set up,
you know?
So even that of like plugging in your own stick is a little bit of a different experience compared to what all the Japanese players are used to. You know, a lot of, you see
like Hayao sitting on the floor because what they play at is the cabinet, which is the seated, you
know, kind of like Astro City cab you're used to seeing in like Japanese arcades. But like for,
if you're not going to play on one of those, if you're playing at home, people are sitting on the floor at home, you know, so that's the second most
comfortable thing for a lot of players.
So that's kind of what you're seeing there with the whole stick plugged in stuff.
And even that, if you're if you're only used to playing on one type of cabinet ever, then
that type of situation might change, you know, I've, and I've seen Chirithy compete in setups
that were laggy in situations where the person setting it up
didn't know what they were doing,
when the stream was recording before the game to the TV feed
was priority.
So you have things like that where it's like,
oh, they didn't split it later.
They split it before the game feed got to the monitor
that they're playing on.
And now there's this extra delay for no reason
because they just,
all kinds of dumb shit happens in these setup situations.
So by getting all of these never before experienced
like moments out of the way, you just like, okay,
we'll just learn to play our game
through. Lag, of course, is bullshit. You'd like you shouldn't have to play in that situation. But
regardless, I think the process of him experiencing every single possible way of playing this game
also made a huge difference there and just like, yeah, led to that result so incredibly exciting and yes as as
As the moment like Hayao won that match against Frankie BFG. It was like, okay now he's got to come out and fight Chirithy and
And Chirithy is gonna be the bad guy for beating him
so I'm like, alright this whole arena is about to turn and
So I'm like, all right, this whole arena is about to turn. And you know, me, Reggie and like,
Listen, they're all competing. It's different.
Like me, like, like the, the, the, the few of us, there's like four of us or five of us from Montreal that are there.
We've got to hold it down. We've got to, we've got to scream and fight this entire arena.
And we did. We definitely did.
I, you know, at some point it was like, let's go high out, Chyra-thay!
Let's go high out, Chyra-thay! So that's where my voice went. I have to go back and listen to the
actual stream to see if any of that comes through. But we did it. We fucking, we screamed MTL and
Ben popped and it was great. And yeah, it was just, it was a whole lot of fun seeing,
you know, our boy walks out and he's got the fucking
hero Yui pose, the Gundam wing.
Cause everyone's doing their cool poses and stuff.
And so when you see him doing that versus Hayao,
who's like Jojo posing as well, like against each other,
you're like, what the fuck is,
I'm like?
It's fighting games is what that is that thumbnail
We're like two characters are posing up with the versus in the middle and it's like you don't even see the characters
You just it's just the artwork of the actual players. That's awesome
So, yeah, I know third strike
Fucking great just that was a whole lot of fun there
and fucking great just that was a whole lot of fun there and I mean I guess beyond
that yeah when it comes to Street Fighter 6 I I feel so it's interesting
because I'm like I'm I wanted bird supremacy I wanted two years of each bird, you know, just like,
like on both sides. Just for the name. No, no, no. Because I've talked to those guys. They're
really chill. Like, and at this point, like, you know, we've, I, I like, at, at, like, I guess
the idea of the, the, the name of the bird super like thing would have been cool, but no, because they're again, they're great folks and like I have
infinite respect for
Two dudes on like in their own scene just grinding it out becoming best in the fucking world and then
Proving that elsewhere, right? So same thing for we talk about the arzlin ash story kind of thing
It's like that kind of thing where you're just like yo yo, it's Big Bird and Angry Bird fucking doing it. And I mean, again, just like, yeah,
like chatting with them a bit and stuff last year
and this year and hopping over to their stream as well.
They have an awesome time and they're really good guys.
So I was definitely rooting for that.
Even though the Marissa switch happened,
and I get it.
It's a rough time for Marissa Stonks right now.
People are people are rightfully they're just like, yeah,
Bison's coming along, working less, doing more damage
not more damage, but doing like equal amounts of insane damage,
which makes her whole specialty not as not as, you know, special anymore.
And playing a lot of bison
And I dabbled in Marissa, and he just seems to get
More yep, I get it seem I get more out of
The same thing I get it. I get it. You know and it's easier
But but I will say that like I certainly always have a feeling of like well
You know besides just like me liking the character and stuff like that. There's always a feeling I get when
when when stuff is happening and I'm like
things that there's always a poor like how much will this affect me to the extent of my abilities and
it's like
I've looked at it.'m like yeah I can certainly consider
I could consider switching I do still enjoy and love the character but I'm
also like I'm not it's not like I'm playing the character to the maximum
with their abilities though right like I'm not doing everything I can do
efficiently perfectly as this character so you know to be like it does a lot of
times which because you know it's almost like someone who's like in a very early like rookie rank going like oh they nerfed crouching medium punch man
Fuck this. I'm not playing Luke anymore. You know or like you know what I mean?
I think but you don't that's not relevant to you in the way you're playing you're fine. You know that's not love
Sure, where's your love?
I mean not everybody has that which to be fair like love has nothing to do with picking a top tier and winning
You know um
It should but yeah, no that's that's all that's always been the case and and you know
I mean I I guess I might as well repeat for posterity sake on this one
But like from back in the day like in a lot in every fighting game
I always pick characters based on like the character
I fucking like I'm super into and like I just love the aesthetic of everything that I love exactly
With the exception of Blanca who was never that
Blanca was not
Blanca is not the character I picked because I was like, oh I want to pick that guy Blanca was the character
I picked when I was a child that I could beat my older brother and cousins with in Street Fighter 2.
That's a form of love.
And so that-
Destroy family is the purest love.
Sure. But for anyone who's confused, when there was like, yo, Nikali is there, but now Blanka's out.
You're going to switch from Nikali to Blanka, right?
And I'm like, no, I'm going to keep playing Nikali.
And it was like, oh, but why?
Because you knew then that that was the time
that you were going to have to play Nikali.
I mean, sure.
But just to explain that it's just like,
Blanka is a character that I have
a fucking lifetime of history with,
but it's not a pick out of like, oh, I love, it's always
the best. It's out of like, I have a, I don't, I, if there's a character that I, that I like
more and enjoy more, I'm going to go to that character instead, you know? Blank is history,
but it's not the, it's not my favorite character. Blank is not my favorite Street Fighter character
at all, you know? So that's why you don't always see me going back in that direction if I'm pulled in by something else, you know
Yeah, so in any case
The I feel as if the oh my favorite my who is my favorite character Makoto Makoto. She's awesome. Yeah, she's the best
She's the Makoto is the coolest Street Fighter character like not. Yeah. No done
So yeah, that's the fucking best. She's, Makoto's the coolest Street Fighter character. Like, not, yeah. No, done. So yeah, that's the case.
Oh, what was I talking about?
Oh yeah, so Street Fighter VI, like, but, so punk though,
finally getting US on the board there,
like after a history of no United States winners
in the main Street Fighter game.
Some close, almost, over the years, right?
Yeah, but never, never, you know, what was it, always a bridesmaid, never a bride, right?
I saw the breakdown with Japan at 15 and Korea at 1 and then everybody else fighting for
scraps.
Like, lord.
So you got that, and then you've got the part where, like, just Punk on his own has always just like, he's
chasing those ghosts, you know, like of those moments, especially like the bracket reset
into lot.
Like it's, Pugs had it rough, man.
You know, so finally getting the monkey off his back and getting the dub, you know, earned
it.
And it was, but the thing is that it it was one it was one fucking touch away in
that moment against Big Bird and you know like I just I'm sure the thing is
to like those three play each other all the time they're really good friends
they fucking lab it out and go so I'm like there's always a thing where like
you see how the characters are playing you see how the person is playing
throughout the weekend and you know you can make a call there and in a lot of cases there's times where like punk starts to lose it
and then there's times where he's hot and he's just unstoppable. Yeah. But like
there's an X factor is like between friends that have played forever they
know things and they've done things that you've not seen and they know stuff
about each other's habits that you don't know. So there's always just a wild
X factor there, you know, and that applies across the board. Like when two people are meeting in the bracket that know each other so well, you're not going to get the results you necessarily
expect from people that are just playing their characters as tightly as they can, you know?
So yeah, like that was, you wild final. It's an exciting moment.
And I was like, I was bummed because again, you didn't get it, but either way, just incredible
to see. And I feel like as well, one thing that Angry Birds said in the past two other
streams was just like, you know, any bracket I get, and anytime I win an event, Big Bird easily could have won as well.
And it can just go vice. Right.
It could go either way between us, you know, and like this is like, yeah,
clearly that's the, you know, between the Big Bird, the Red Bull event before.
And this is like, yeah, they definitely could.
But the three of them are just like absolute beasts.
So congrats there.
And yeah, I think as well like something that was really dope the intros to each of these games as always Red Rapper aka
Zayit Tabani you know was in charge of like the music for the whatever they
play and so they they did a really awesome job previous years with the sounds of
Evo there's like a soundtrack to the entire tournament. That's awesome and
This time around for third strike as the the legacy game
They actually got infinite the rapper from third strike to do a track for track is incredible
It's so dope right that was super cool. So they got that going.
Let's get it on now, you know?
And coming back after all this time, it was really hype to see that the sound of Third
Strike is here to announce the Grand Finals event or the top six.
And with Street Fighter VI, it was Red Rapper himself,
just doing it with the No More Quarters, which it was hype.
It worked in all the stuff you expect to hear.
It worked in the year, year, you know?
And even a sly little,
sometimes you gotta pop out and show niggas,
even a little bit of a, you know?
Like a little bit of that not like us in there for a second.
So it was awesome with the music.
And yeah, something I've been sleeping on because I've been there, so you don't necessarily
get to hear things as clearly.
You don't get to hear what's on the stream the whole time.
You get to hear it in the arena for the moment the thing gets announced.
But I didn't know the extent that there was that full soundtrack for each year
So going back to listen to that is is a must
The
Yeah, so
I got we got to get some hands on some games, but I guess like the one other thing was
Every year I try to make it over
to the best fucking sandwich place, Earl of Sandwich.
So good.
So it's just simple, just a simple sandwich but they just, you know, the bread is perfect,
everything's perfect, I fucking love it.
So went over there and just, I mean, it's not much to this really but I just you have these moments where like
I'm like, you know Canada and America, you know, these are
Friends we're friends and you know, I can yeah, I can slip by sometimes and people be like, oh they don't know you're Canadian
Until you go like hey, I'm actually Canadian and they go. Oh shit
You know we can and sometimes not and sometimes not and there's sometimes wife says I have we have incredibly thick accents
And I'm like sure I'm sure I don't see it
But there's time but this point is there's times where like I'm just walking through and I'm like, oh, yeah
I'm like I'm just I could be anywhere in Canada right now or anywhere in Montreal
there's other times where I'm like I am in fucking America and it it boy does that hit you and
in fucking America and it it boy does that hit you and
I got so anyway, I got hit me and Reggie were walking into planet we walking into Planet Hollywood and
We as we're going up the escalator we just heard these chants of a group of people going winner
winner winner, and I'm sure he's hearing this and freaking out right now because and we're like what the fuck is that right and we
look over and like a crowd of child pageant little girls in like like
Stage bikinis is the best I can describe it are all just chanting and going yeah
Like a pageant the child pageant just ended and they're all walking out and this is like late on Friday night at
The fucking casino and it was just what the fuck what the fuck is happening what is this oh my god
it was just like oh and i'm like what like why vegas why and then of course you're like and i'm
sure and the parents are around here like why are you doing this why all concentrated in this one
place in this it was fucking it was it was rough man and like like we're just
like what the fuck is happening right now and I've never in all the Vegas
trips I have taken nothing like that has ever occurred it was fucking nuts dude
and it was just like again like the everything about all of that has always been
extremely fucking weird and just gross and it's like
Yeah
It's just happening. You know so um
Yeah
Yeah, that did it
Vegas did it
That's fucking, that's weird.
Yo Vegas, you better not to go to Cell Block One.
Yeah, a little bit.
I mean it's... and then, you know, and aside from like just the initial fucking uh is like...
Yeah, aside from that?
Literally, yes, I know right it's a big one but a
big aside is like you can see the parents who are like doing the dream
fulfillment thing because they think this is the like they're down with doing
this because it's like whatever life they live that was unfulfilled they're
like gonna live it vicariously through their child so let's like let's gussy up
our kid and and fucking make up them and put them on stage and do the whole bit you
know and like you're like that as well in the orbit and it's just it's all bad
it's all it's just all bad it's bad from the top it's bad in the middle it's bad
at the but it's just fucking you know yeah so try to fucking just like drink that away. You know I just drink it away
Yeah, that was that was I do I?
I don't know how anyway whatever
I don't know how that's not illegal like I literally I don't get how that is not a thing that
Literally the police can't just like hey, hey, right. You gonna legislate freedom?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
In Vegas?
We gotta go after the cabals,
but we cannot go after the child bride laws
for ancient, old, traditional Christian values.
Let's not stop that, no. Anyways, whatever. It's fucked.
So that happened. And then we went and had sandwiches. They were very-
Yeah? Were your sandwiches good?
And they were very good sandwiches. Anyway, that was dope. just you know nice to run into
folks the entire time Matsumoto the one of you know one of the two new producers
walking by just be like yo you're the man you're great you're cool you're the
best I love you keep it it up. Good work.
And that's a very different response from when other Street Fighter producers would walk by.
You know? Oh yeah? Yeah. Yeah.
You know sometimes it'd be like...
Does anybody have a brick?
Sometimes. Sometimes you're like, oh look. There it goes. You know? There it goes. Yeah. How about that?
Oh look, oh look goes, you know, there it goes. Yeah, how about that? Well, look, look, he's over there.
Yeah.
Hey, there he is, what's up?
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off. So yeah, first got some more time in on the 2XKO early builds. This was the one
with Brawn in it.
I saw that trailer. That's a very good rendition of Brawn.
Okay, so I don't know much about the character obviously, but did you see that trailer?
Yeah, you're good. Yeah
That's that's what he's got going on feels like you got the you know
Like I mean, I'm seeing Reinhardt like shield walking going on seeing the little mascot things getting thrown out and
on, seeing the little mascot things getting thrown out and buffing the shield and then disgusting defensive armor breaking stuff with that in a fighting game context. It was incredible.
The way this game works as well allows for, yeah, just immediately disgusting possibilities because
you can pull the shield out, buff it so that it can have armor,
and kind of just walk forward and block
whatever's happening.
And while that's going on,
your second character can jump in
and then do some kind of mix-up.
And they're essentially, again,
like Reinhardt covered, you know?
I'm gonna use that as my point of reference
because I don't have the correct one for it.
That's fine, man, you're good.
Yeah, just for anyone that...
Don't worry about it.
Whoever came first, I don't know but um and that is really like in a fighting game context nuts
to you know that is a really disgusting uh advantage to have and so watching how he plays
in particular with Illaoi is awesome because they have really great synergy as the two big bodies together. He can shield while she puts the tentacles down and then just
like abuse you left and right with the the mixes or the grabs all that stuff. So
yeah we got I got some footage of us messing around with that as well and in
addition to that they added a new fuse to the game. So the fuses are essentially
like the grooves in a way. And you know, that was the stuff where it was like, what kind
of like special extra mechanic do you want? Do you want double tag so that you can switch
left and right, handshake tag? Do you want double assists?
I feel like we talked about this before.
We did.
It didn't have a unique name to it yet.
Yeah, so they were called, no, they were called
fuses at the time, but I was just,
you're not gonna remember that until you're
actually playing it, so I wasn't gonna use the lingo,
per se, but yeah, it's like a groove, you know?
And in some cases, it's your comeback mechanic as well,
depending on which one you pick, you know. So at the time, the default one they were, you were picking was just,
hey, when one character dies and you're in your, you're, you're getting low in life,
you get stronger, you get a buff of damage and defense, and then you get the ability
to dash cancel out of one thing at any time on offense, but you can only do it once.
You know?
So that's really good because you can use that to get out of all kinds of trouble situations.
So now they added a new one which is actually like the auto combo one essentially.
Oh!
And so it's interesting because it's like, so we have been wondering and theorizing
about like, here's a game that has a whole lot of insane execution and depth and all
that, but it's got the easy execution of one button for a special, right? So there's no
longer any like input restriction on people's ability to do stuff.
But anytime a game is still sufficiently fast enough and like,
you know, when there's combos and there's all kinds of things and people are playing it at like a high level, especially,
you're going to have to still deal with a lot, you know?
So it's like just having a one button special move, a modern mode, essentially,
in a Marvel style game context
What is not enough for people? You know, it's it's like that makes it easier to one degree
but
The other half is the combos themselves and you know accessing the fun. So
They yeah
so one of the things you can pick is essentially each route of
Light medium or heavy will do like a combo with the character like almost like Dragon Ball does, you know
And yeah, they had then they have different like types of combos they do and you can go from one into the other
But of course you're sacrificing one of those other really incredible offensive abilities. So true, but
Reliability has value modern mode players has taught me that yeah sure
Reliability has value. Modern mode players has taught me that.
Yeah, sure.
The thing is, of course, is I just, I don't see it,
and I kinda ask those, like, is there any version of this
where this would be valuable at high level
compared to any of the other things you can get?
And they're like, probably not.
I mean, you never know how things are gonna shape up,
but probably not, because not having double tag,
double assist, double super,
or free focus attack dash cancel, you know,
excuse me, is really bad.
So yeah, auto combos is nice, but yeah,
at sacrifice of your ability to like actually open up the opponent, I combos is nice. But yeah, at sacrifice of
your ability to like actually open up the opponent, I don't
know, you know, but it's there for for for folks. So you're
going to basically be able to put a modern mode on the
already modern mode game. And the fact that that's necessary
says a lot because it's like, yeah, motion inputs or not, it
that's still not enough for folks.
You're gonna need, you have to find, again,
better ways or more direct ways to access the fun.
So yeah, it was just sick running sets with that
and I'm very looking forward to, like I said,
the two chairs on one side of the stream,
one chair on the other, as people can play asymmetrical sets with each other and they're
actually balanced against each other.
I want to see, and I was talking to, I had lunch with some of the guys and I was talking
to some of the people working on it about this, but I want to see teams with headsets
on each other communicating or like
the mics in the next tweet, the two players on each side. So you can kind of hear what
they're saying to each other if they're communicating at all because fighting games have never had
that or needed that, you know, and this is brand new stuff and other games, you know,
obviously like shooters, team-based or anything, you get to hear the communication between
the team. But I think it would be really hype to have that for a fighting game as well.
You get to hear their comms.
Yeah.
And then you get to argue about why their comms are weird and which one of them is dosing
Adderall or cocaine.
Yeah.
I've, people, that's, yeah, that's wild shit.
There was, there was an error-
It's all of them!
Shocker!
There was a, there was a moment of like Adderall discussion in the FGC as well, certainly.
PEDs.
I don't know what the solution to that is because if you got the ADHD, Adderall brings
you up to normal, but if you don't have the ADHD, Adderall brings you significantly past
normal.
Yeah, and I mean, that's not only that.
And then the coaching discussion, I'd say, equally is tricky because it's like, okay,
Tekken allowed for a designated coach who can come up between sets.
And that feels like damage mitigation more than it does a forward policy.
Because if you can't verify whether someone's on Discord or not
when they look at their notes, if you can't verify whether they're on a WhatsApp call
or not on their headphones instead of playing their music, then you either have to put phones
in Faraday bags or you know what I mean? Go check to me. Like no one's doing that right? We are moving closer and closer to the Starcraft
cubes
Yeah, the fucking the fucking Korean like RTS cubes to just seal the competitors in so it's just it's easy to say
Battle coaching, but it's hard to actually is actually it's super easy
Yes
but then like how or what to what lengths are
You going with every setup with every match to?
Ensure and enforce what people are doing with their headphones and with their phones and other things like that, you know
It's it's weird and then how do I mean coaching is easy to ban you just don't let someone walk up there
Sure, right actual in-person stuff, yeah.
But then when it gets to the phone call,
headphone version of events.
Oh, you don't let them talk to anyone.
Well, but it doesn't have to involve talking.
It can just be one way with the headphones in.
You seal them in a fucking cube.
So yeah, exactly, right.
There are issues that are not easily solvable
that get presented by this.
And lest we go to the Magnus Carlsen discussion where your opponent shows up potentially with
a fucking Morse code butt plug, now what?
Well, I mean...
Three buzzes means you're not doing enough...
You're not doing enough drive rush're not doing enough dry brushes.
That's not safe, you can't do that, you can't punish that.
Hey listen, listen, we're gonna hit a point at some point where someone's gonna be up there
and it's like, listen, I think he's got something in his ass.
You can check my ass, check mine first.
I'm willing, what, he won't do it? Disqualify him.
And then you pull it out and it turns out the butt plug was a razor butt plug god damn it
Fucking razor again, this is not when I wanted this to malfunction
We don't know where this is going but I can see that the tech end version
of it was like, okay, not during or in between just let's, let's control the chaos, so to
speak, you know?
Um, and I mean, and like, yeah, people can certainly, when they're off stage, go and
take their calls, check, you know, do whatever they got to do, check the notes, talk to whoever
they got to do.
So before your sets, that's expected.
To which, yeah, Adele on stage pulled out the phone and was just like, did a quick check
in?
Like, yo, what am I not seeing?
What's going on?
It makes a difference there.
So...
You know, I'm of the opinion genuinely that massive open tournaments like EVO, the rules should
probably be more relaxed than more strict because it's just going to be impossible
to actually run it. But an invitational, yeah, no, seal those bitches in a cube.
The way things go though is, well, there's two things. One, watching every pool match in that way to see who's doing,
like to see that type of shit is an issue.
Oh hey man, I need to take a quick break.
I'll be right back.
Be right back.
As I was saying, so there's an issue
because you can't quite effectively monitor
for Razer RGB butt plugs.
Right? That's not butt plugs. Right?
That's not gonna fly.
Okay, okay, okay, yeah.
Yes.
I suppose unless you see the pants start glowing,
blue, red.
That's a pretty strong glow.
And it starts doing the full rainbow,
like your keyboard, it kinda goes like,
woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo.
Maybe, but for the most part very hard to enforce right people in pool yes you
could turn the lights out and see whose pants are glowing in in pools if you if you you
can't possibly have every judge looking at every set to see when someone checks their
phone to see what's going on you know and even if he was on a level of like okay well it's
almost like with someone else doing anything else cheating like if you see
someone doing that are you gonna pause your game and potentially disrupt your
match to report the other person then they go no no I wasn't look and then you
can't you know what I mean like it's a mess to then stop the match to have this accusation get proved and then the ref has to figure out
what happened and whether it was real or not as long as
As long as there's people on hand to view all the matches that have money associated with them
Well, technically every match has money associated because you pay to enter. You know what I mean.
I know what you mean, but you can't do that.
Rules have to apply.
Why not?
Because rules can't change from lower level to high level.
It's got to be consistent the whole way through the bracket.
So wait, you're saying that because you can't have a judge on every single match in every
pool, there can't be any judges on the top eight?
No, no, no. That's not what I'm saying.
What I'm saying is any rule that applies at pools also applies all the way up and vice versa.
The difference is just if something happens in pools, it might have to get reported differently
versus everyone seeing it happen live in front of them on the stage.
Like when something goes wrong and someone has to lose a round regardless of whether they are okay letting the game continue, that applies at the pool's level
too because they're like, it's not up to the players to decide who the villain is or who
isn't or whatever. Like all those things are consistent from the top down, you know? And
then of course there's the part where it's like, all right, you somehow magically find
a way to like stop all potential
Outside contact right or whatever right? How do you stop someone in the crowd just going yo that string ain't real
You can jab cami before the dive kick. It's not real
The more I the more my brain goes to the cube.
That's the thing.
When you actually have to sit and be the people that make the rules, these things are really
hard to figure out.
Not only do crowd pop-offs are those a thing.
I've been at events where the in-house Mike with the commentary will say like,
oh yeah, he doesn't know, but that's actually like plus two or whatever. And then it's like,
well, now they do. You know? So, like, it's, you have the crowd and you have the commentary
and you have, like, there's a lot. There's a lot to consider there for what the coaching thing involves and it's it's a giant monster of a problem
So I again I don't I get why Tekken was like okay
We'll allow it in a controlled way because there's so many other uncontrolled ways that it's gonna go down, you know
Anyways anyways
To X, fucking just.
Are there any more details on release for that?
It's so weird how long it's been.
So the only thing is that there's the playable demo, the playable alpha, that people are
going to be able to actually jump on and get hands on by signing up at the with the
the account, you know
um
That's coming at soon. It sounds like um, I don't it's august was the play test. Yeah august
so
you um, you know, I i'm hoping that's going to be a build with like
Everyone that's been announced so far
um, but Yeah, that that'll yeah, that'll be next month or so.
Fucking just, it's so fluid and nice to watch.
It's very, I love, I mean, we talked about
all the visual elements and how strong everything is
when you see highlighted characters
and the snappiness of it.
But yeah, just doing
that again and stuff was a whole lot of fun. And the asymmetrical aspect. And we had a
shout out to the team too as well, because it's nice to have getting hands on it and
then there's a little booth, a little booklet at the booth you can quickly flip through
to get the information you need to just press buttons. But then they had people around and
good players that were just like,
oh yeah, let me show you some stuff.
Then one of the developers came out as well
and was like kind of showing us the ropes
and what was dirty about that.
So when everyone gets hands on in August,
I think like this is gonna be a playing
is believing type situation where you can feel how fun.
Well, you don't have to, cause it'll be free, right? You don't have to because it'll be free
Right, you don't have to believe yeah, you just just
There yeah, but but but even games being free doesn't mean everyone's gonna bother You know like it's still there sure but like that they have to be staff to be sold on the download
But it is the initial the inertia on that is gonna be as low as it's ever been
The bar has never been lower.
Literally just click the button.
Yeah, of course.
It's nice that it feels like it's worth paying for and it's going to be free.
Is a pretty, like, okay, that feels like it's gonna do really well.
Hey, do you remember that that gotcha conversation?
We had last week in which you had the idea of like it to get the thing that I wanted it would cost x amount
of dollars or so yeah
This game is gonna skip huge portions of that process by just saying hey, do you want this good skin? It's $400
Right to the end of the discussion. Yeah. No maps required.
This is for you, Prince. Yeah, okay. Okay. Sure. Ah, fuck. The next thing I did was Fatal Fury, City of the Wolves, Warvs even.
So one-
The second game we're talking about today featuring Terry Bogard.
Indeed.
That's- it's really pretty, man.
It looks really cool.
And it's nice to say that considering it was like oh boy kf14
the the simple collection right kf15 it's not as bad as 14 yeah all right and
then say you know in Sam's show it's like okay that looks pretty cool that's
cool that's cool that's good that's good yeah yeah like the character designs are
really awesome but you know like just model and world fidelity is like yeah, that's that's what's good
But of course like you know you're not you're like
Fucking Dragon Ball fighters just came out like we're guilty your strive is currently at like you know hey listen, man
I I eagerly await. Sorry I eagerly welcome
fatal fury to the year 2009.
Welcome, welcome.
It is, so it's nice that it's not kind of golf clapping
where you're like, oh, yeah, that's pretty good
for what they usually do.
It's like, no, this game looks fucking sick, man.
It, like, the pop art filter and all that stuff is really like awesome in action and yeah
just getting again getting hands on it it feels like what I thought it was
which is just this is a 1v1 fucking fighting game classic classic, pure. And what's interesting is like what the team was saying too
was that yes, this is a lot of Mark of the Wolves
because you're seeing essentially the top system,
which is where you set which part of your,
which third of your life bar you wanna have
extra abilities in.
It's got the characters from Mark of the Wolves,
it's got the, you know,
the breaking system, which is kind of like, you can do like an upperc, a Shoryuken or something,
and then AB to break out of it and then continue your combo. It's got fakes, which are from the
old game as well, where you can start to do a fireball and be like, oh, oh, oh, you know, and
that's always incredibly powerful in any game. They added Ryu fake Hadoken to HD remix and it was insane.
It was just batshit that you could have Ryu go, Hadouk!
And you're like, I jumped, fuck!
Just like Luke, man. Just like Luke.
You know. So, yeah, this is baked into the system which allows you to extend your combos as well.
Like you could before. And all of that just you know is still intact but it's obvious
that the Garou Mark of the Wolves DNA is there but they're saying that like there's going
to be a real bout DNA too and it's not just Garou Mark of the Wolves 2 but it's Fatal
Fury City of the Wolves because it's actually a it's going to have elements of real bout fatal fury and
Garo, you know, so I'm curious to see what that means right now because there's no line system currently
Which is the like back and forth let you know, there's no ring outs on the edge of the stage
So I can literally hear
homogeneous in my mind right now.
Out of bounds.
Out of bounds.
That's the you know, so I'm like, I don't know what that's going to mean exactly.
But the it feels fucking awesome to play.
We had as well one of the the SNK.
One of the they have a Koichi who is a top Guilty Gear player in Japan came through and was
able to show us some basics, some combos and some advanced stuff.
And it was pretty cool to just see what's possible because yeah, you've got Just Defend
of course, which is like your parry equivalent, but you've got the red Just Defend, which
is like a red parry kind of thing. There's advanced systems in there. There's things that are very it's the most traditional and old school of all the new fighters in a way
You know and that's even though it's got it's kind of drive impact equivalent, which is the the SPG move, you know, so
I
Just I think that's gonna be a really big hit for them as well. I think it's gonna do well
I think a lot of people are gonna enjoy it anyone that is kind of coming over from the old games
but anyone that likes anyone that had like likes the the Street Fighter kind of experience because
For all you know Capcom and SF 6 are in in fighting games. It's also like
You know Tekken is not Street Fighter, certainly. Guilty Gear.
No, Tekken is its own beast.
Right, its own 3D beast. Anime fighters are anime fighters and Guilty Gear is, you know,
one of them. And like, you know, KOF is KOF. Like, it's got its own thing with the team. Like,
there's not a lot of like, here's another 1v1, like, paced, you know, footsies game in a way. And so this is going to be one of those.
The it's going to be the closest to a Street Fighter like of all the other games that are
going to be coming out, you know. So that's fucking exciting. And while we were there,
they announced Kevin fucking Ryan. So for anyone fucking hate Kevin so much the goddamn just the crawling cop
And you're like who is this loser and why is he a character in Fatal Fury? Shut the fuck up? He's top tier
He's unstoppable. He's got fucking he's got cancels between his buttons that nobody else can do and they're touch of death inducing each shit
If you can land that I just think he looks lame as fuck like that's always been
Like the start and end of it for me
Yeah, so the thing with it dude like you just you can land any of his fucking heavy buttons and then break and then do it again
The perf the the thumbnail is really weird render,
really weird render of him
because it looks like his hair is off and stuff,
but when you go look at his actual artwork
with him and Markie, the kid, he looks totally fine.
The official artwork of him from the side looks great.
It looks great.
So it's just that weird one shot they chose for the frame on the thumbnail.
But he's in there and anyone who's like a Garo player that played this game and competed
in Andor got really into it is like this character probably is just...
It needs to be there in the same way Magneto sentinel and storm need to be in Marvel, you know, it's what you just said is completely insane. I
Just want to that's my opinion
How so people like magneto and storm and sentinel yes
Okay, once again
Besides just the aesthetic of the weird cop dude that shows up here,
which we've always been like, who the fuck is this loser, from the outside lore, not
really playing the game, you know, to that degree level, people who fucking play Mark
of the Wolves know that Kevin is the best. He's top tier. He's God. He has- Yeah, no, but no, Kevin's kit is the best, not Kevin.
Kevin is ripe for function, for functional replacement.
I mean, yes, but at a point where does the distinguishing factor step in?
Like I don't-
Whether I know, I think they're cool or not!
I think the players of- I think the Kevin people that fucking run that character are just as invested
as the MSS people that for people that like-
I don't care about them!
Well, I'm telling you the way it is, bro.
I don't care about the way that it is.
Okay, well fine.
I want to live in the world in which it is how I want it to be.
That's fine- that is- you are allowed to do do that you're allowed to not care about the way it is
But you know when you talk about games where there's a god of that game that becomes like fucking you know
Synonymous with it like yeah, they expect to see this fucker show up because goddamn it
That's what that is that that was that's what the game has been that's what this it's competitively bit
You know so yeah, but I've always been I've always been like we it was do you remember?
I don't know if you're like we had the rudest awakening
Discovering what the actual capability of what we thought this loser character was cuz we're like, yeah that made me like
Like love grow less. We're like, oh is he like he's like the Dan of the game or whatever
Look at this loser and it's's like, yeah, you can
say whatever you want about the character design. This is what
he is, you know, and where he lives. So it was crazy. But
anyway, that's that's that's why he's showing up, you know.
And yeah, getting hands on as well with Vox Reaper,
the new Grant, he's really fucking good.
Like, it's interesting,
cause he absolutely is like Grant,
but like in a lot of ways he's faster at some stuff
and like seems like he's very well suited
for this new system.
Because the way you do combos in it
is like you have this rev gauge,
which is like your accelerometer,
and you can do like a basically EX moves into EX moves until it fills up and then you burn out.
And getting a character to do like a launch of any kind or things like that allow you to get your combo started in many cases
involves spending a little bit and then doing an AB break on it or somewhere in your combo you do a launcher into that. But he can get it without spending by just doing one of his
big the Grant back wave attack. I'm sold on the Grant disciple kind of design as well.
Preachah, the kickboxer, disciple of Joe Higashi. She's cool.
And I saw a lot of the design, again, elements carried forward from the old sprites we saw
in the leaked Garo 2 disc.
But they had the whole stage presentation where Hellpockets was up there with the designers
and stuff.
And they're going through some of the old designs for Preachah and the process of how
they got there.
And fuck me, did some of the ones they didn't go with look incredible because they're like
SNK character designs but just not, you know, not the one we saw and one of them was just
straight up Vanessa with long red hair.
Yeah, it's a curse to see like, hey, these are the ones we threw away and like, because they always show like five
to ten of them, it's nearly inevitable that you're going to see one and you're like,
oh, no!
Fuck, like they showed off a bunch of bison designs and a bunch of them were trash, but
like two of them were really good and I wish we had got those instead.
I think the crowd reacted to seeing the Vanessa one and like it's wild because they're like, boy, they didn't even try.
Like it's just Vanessa with long hair.
But fuck me, they should have went with it.
It's incredible, you know, completely different energy, of course.
And, you know, like, but they could have even changed the colors around a bit, whatever
the case is.
But just it was, yeah.
But again, I'm fine with what we got, but what we didn't get.
Oh, you know.
And yeah, still no sign of the twins, still no sign of, you know, Kim and so on.
I hope they get
fucking announced together but they did announce a Vice and Mature coming to KOF
15 and they're up there they got a cool look too that they got going for them
they that's a really that is a they're fine as DLC announcements.
Of course they're coming.
It's Vice and Mature, right?
I know, but it's like, it's not like...
So I'm very torn because I think the idea of saving all your coolest, most fan-favoritest
characters for the DLC is like, awful and you shouldn't do it. But at the same time I like I I really like vice and mature but they don't
Do you have the pop that do you use or you already with the power of flames or whatever?
I mean, they know they do have pops people are huge fans of vice and mature
But the character polls that they run for these games are to decide who to put out for each season
And sell back to you man you know it's like okay
cool the most popular characters are Biken, Dizzy, Johnny, Slayer, huh
interesting huh okay duly noted tell me more you know no I think um I think yeah
KOF is like you like
If you weren't paying attention you might be like oh wait weren't they already in the game? I also thought that when I saw the picture of them being announced
I was like oh people are posting mature and vice art weird
I wonder why and then I found out they were DLC and like
Huh? All right, okay
but yeah the they were DLC and like, huh? All right. Okay. But yeah, the
they I do like the you know, the subtle changes to what they've
to their design. So they went in in KOF 13, they had like the
the business suit kind of look. And then they just went fully
back to the classic 90 97 style business dress kind of thing.
And now it's got the little lace kind of touches on it. Nice.
It's nice, you know.
Anyway, that was a bit of an aside,
but yeah, City of the Wolves was super fun
and immediately I'm just like, cool,
can't wait to see more,
can't wait to get back to that and get more time on it.
And it's again, yeah, it's gonna be interesting
playing one of these games where you're adding
a lot of your execution is going to come from
your ability to like land a button,
do a fake special, and then cancel that to another button.
You know?
Or then do an uppercut and then A, B, cancel that
to the rest of your combo.
So it's gonna ask a bit more of people than some of the current new games are doing.
So just note that there's some execution going to be involved.
It's not as strict as it used to be certainly, but it's definitely going to ask a bit more
for your longer sequence combos.
Got to then play Hunter Hunter, then
impact. Not for as long. So I got some footage of Garo coming
and we'll upload that as well. The Hunter Hunter game, I just
got in like, you know, like we did like a quick set, honestly.
And, like, yeah, eating knows how to make a Marvel-style game.
They know they've got, it's got the speed, it's got the disgusting mix-ups,
it's got the, you know, the quick incoming like shit that you expect.
And a lot of that is all very recognizable.
What is surprising I didn't realize was there was a special button
for easy specials as well in that game. I didn't know I
thought there was going to be like motions or so but you just
got your like, yeah, like you have like tilts on a special for
everything in that. What's what's the grin? What's the
grin about?
Dude, that roster sucks. That that roster sucks. That roster sucks.
We'll see what they launch with.
That is a bad, no, the launch roster is out.
Is that, so the last announcement of the bug character is it?
Yeah.
Are you sure?
I'm looking at a photo of the launch roster right now
But it said that that's final or is that just who's in it? Okay? All right? I?
Didn't know that that was I didn't hear that that was the case. I thought they were still announcing everybody
Okay
Here's your launch roster. I
Yeah, I could only speak to what I know I suppose of the series
Which is it's not everybody that people would want to see in it.
That is a bad roster. Straight up.
And the question is, is like, with the budget it had, will they have the money to. Like the two that come to mind is Knuckle and Pito aren't there.
So this is where I wonder, is it that 16 is never enough or is it that a better 16 could have been picked?
So they're pulling from certain arcs
They're pulling all the way to the end of chimera ant
right
and greed island so
If they wanted to do like you remember the old the the Naruto games
I was waiting to bring that up where they would associate
Like the seasons and everybody that you would matter from the first
two seasons.
Great Ninja Clash 1 was just Rock Lee was the last character on that roster because
he got announced right before they walked into the exams.
That's it.
Right.
See part two was the exam characters.
So it's literally the teams as they get introduced.
So the roster reflects who's being introduced in what seasons of the actual show?
Yeah, so so they they're covering just a massive amount of arcs
and as a result
there are
huge
huge fucking gaps out of all of them
just massive fucking gaps. Like the
fucking, what is it called? The Phantom Troupe?
The entirety of the Phantom Troupe?
Is missing.
Yeah, so.
So like, right off the bat, you're gonna do the York New
City arc? Okay, you have 13 characters required.
Yeah.
Right there.
So that sounds like there was no way 16 would ever be enough.
No.
Like no.
It would never be enough.
And I think as well, given the, you know, what we see of like, again, the animation
and stuff being like, it no strive. It's far behind
This looks like a last-gen fighter of sorts
What you got to was even?
It probably stretched what they had the resources for to get to that sure absolutely, you know, so
Yeah, okay
So the numbers were just there was no way to make that though those numbers work with this particular IP in any way that people would have been happy with.
Do you think if it was all first season into exam characters, that would chronologically
be accepted as well?
No.
Hmm.
Because people would be like, where's Merrowin, which is the guy who looks like Cell?
And the answer would be, well, we'll get there when-
Well, we'll get to him later!
And then people would go, no. Now.
Okay.
There's- there's- it's-
Yeah, I- yeah. No, I hear that.
It's- it's like a
massive fucking roster of characters
that you'd want to see in a fighting game.
So, like, for every character that's like a
like an absolute must put like Gon or Killua or you know whatever like must be there. There
are like four characters that are going to be missing. You're like oh. So I think it's a part
of this too that is like always going to be impossible to solve is the fact that like the
I forget what the English one was but G Gekuto Ninja Tyson, the great,
great, great, great ninja war.
I think I think the great ninja war games are great ninja clash. Right.
They were the GameCube Naruto fighters that we're just talking about.
They were being released while the series wasn't done yet.
And they were being up there,
putting out what they knew of characters up to a certain point so
even when like it actually showed up as
Play like he was playable in I want to say like oh he had like a really basic move set because he hadn't done
Exactly, so attach he was playable in the second game
But all he did was stand there with his hand sticking out of his jacket
And he did a little single hand gestures and then his big genjutsu which crossfied you, right? And that was it. You
barely got the full version of the character that you know so it's all going according
to the plan of how the seasons are being released. Hunter x Hunter is coming years after the
thing is done so there is no chronological bit.
Yeah, the boo saga is over. There's nothing that hasn't been written yet and such. And so you're kind of picking like, okay, you're coming back on this in full retrospective, how do you approach it, you know? And yeah, I think it's like, the the given to what we heard, right, the rumors that the budget was was it like six or it was
extremely low I don't I forget the exact number but it was extremely low the
500k or something like that it could have made eight characters that look
pretty good or 16 that look the way they look right now or they should have made
52 that look like dog shit
That's that's that they said that's where I'm going. Yeah, they should have made like 50 that look like trash. Oh
Man like no voice acting
Barely barely 100% copied move lists that just mirror from one character to the other a
100% copied move lists that just mirror from one character to the other a
Unique super for everybody is the only thing you're getting
Jesus Christ
Yeah, okay, so there was just no winning with with what it was from the jump then either way what I do have to say is
Playing it. It's it's a it's a fun 3v3 fighter
and You know, it's it's fast-paced and again, it has a lot of potential for hype and dirty shit in a similar way to how Battle for the Grid with Power Rangers was.
That's another game where, hey, you've got multiple seasons of multiple Rangers and multiple
villains and they grabbed the group that they, you know, they grabbed but
There was always potential for infinite because there's all for every Ranger you grab. There's like five others. You're not you know
You and then more for the extra sixth and then the final boss or whatever
But one thing that was very odd about the game and I felt it from just those very brief games we played,
is the characters are small and short, so they're stubby.
There's a lot of kids on that one.
A lot of kids! And the kids feel like you're using kids, so like, Gon's little ngeh, you know, is just a little ngeh.
And you can, you know, you're not really, like, it feels as stubby as it looks. Which is, you know, wild when you're thinking about, like, some other games where, like,
I can stand back here with my Vanguard and DNF duel and press my jab and you're getting
touched by it.
So you know, there's the big characters as well and stuff and, you know, they're at that
size.
But the whole camera zooms out in such a way where for the big characters to all be normal
sized, the small characters look extra tiny.
And if you're not kind of doing all that crazy air dashing movement and getting in constantly
with Gon and Killua and stuff, like you're barely touching, you know?
There were points where I rushed up to Reggie or vice versa, and I thought I was in and
like waited for him to get up and he got up and he got up like just outside of my jab range you know and it
felt like oh fuck every button is is fucking Nikali buttons just yeah
flailing with dinosaur arms a little bit so yeah kid Goku is the other
comparison point right yeah I think but, we'll, you know, more than that though.
I'm curious to see what the full version of the game is going to look like with the whole
like, are you going to go full on touch of death and then characters melt immediately?
Because X Factor is there and you activate it in the same way and you get that like,
you know, instant pop and then oh fuck
I touched you. Happy birthday die
so the actual um
Show manga has a lot of touch of death. Okay a lot of like yeah, I'm doing my stupid bullshit
Ha, I got you. Yeah, I mean that's that's killer was bit right?
Like I'm a fucking kill you in a lot of cases, you know, so yeah
Oh, I mean, he just loves murder. I mean he just he was raised. What are you gonna do?
But I can't believe that bomb loser got in that is a oh
You know I'm gonna make this like like franchise agnostic. I think three on three with a roster of 16 is way too small.
You're gonna I think I think putting more than a third of the roster into each match is fucking
crazy. Like you're gonna get used to them very quickly. And you're you're correct. Skullgirls
had that initial feeling. And with the launch launch roster but and then it passed as
it got up there it well not only that not only that but what really helped you
so one it got better as they released a lot of extra characters off the base
roster but then second you didn't have to play three characters every time
right having one or two felt and made a big difference in how those matches felt and played
out. You know, one big heavy with no assists was a different experience from going one big band.
Excuse me. And that was a much more tangible change than because CVS, for example, had the ratios
then because CVS for example had the ratios and CVS 2 you know you'd pick okay ratio 4 how Maru and stuff but like skull girls having tagging and assists
means that the team means more than just how hard I hit you and how hard I get
hit so yeah that that allowed the the game to feel like a like it had more
going on with a small roster but But I still remember that launch window where it was like,
oh man, yeah, I've seen all these characters
almost every match very quickly.
And people who are playing the best characters
are gonna play the same, out of the six,
you're gonna see the same four a lot, you know?
So it is a problem that if you don't design around that, you're going to hit that
wall very hard.
I can only imagine taking on this kind of IP and doing so on the budget that they did.
There's a hope that, hey, fans grab it and there's enough support that they can start
getting seasons going and then expand that slowly because it feels like an IP,
like if you're grabbing an anime that is full of characters,
you probably are thinking, if not like,
who are the license holders for Hunter x Hunter?
I don't know.
Oh, who the fuck knows?
Whatever the case is, I don't know if it's like Shueisha
or whatever, but like they're probably thinking about it
and like, hey look, yeah, all these Dragon Ball games that can just release seasons and seasons of stuff
You know like we should be able to do that as well
But do so without getting the same amount of money that we give one of those games this okay. Yeah
It you you you
Power Rangers you feel that roster you on launch, you launch a lot more than other games do.
That's the real issue.
But I will say this, touch it, see if you have some fun with it, play it, you know what
I mean?
Like, favorites aside, it's got sauce.
I'm kind of surprised Leorio made it in.
But he's one of the main three in that group within them.
I don't think he has even a single fight in the entirety of the arcs they're pulling from.
As somebody who's at the beginning of the show, like Gon, Killua, Kurapika, and Leorio are the crew.
But like, okay, you remember the Itachi problem?
Mm-hmm.
We were just talking about?
Mm-hmm.
I don't know what Leorio fucking does!
I literally don't even know!
Uh, I assumed that I would find out later.
You know?
But, uh, yeah. Okay, okay well it's called an impact yeah let me let me spoil the manga for myself in the
future by oh I can't even find match footage okay well I'm just gonna stop
looking over here as people scroll with what he should or shouldn't be doing.
But uh, yeah, either way.
I just, I'm like, hey, it's the characters in all the promotional material for this franchise.
I'm assuming they're all going to be playable. It would be insane.
If he wasn't, I think the conversation would be way more insane and weird.
I think this conversation would be way more insane and weird. I think this conversation would be, how the fuck is he not playable when he's one of the
main characters that is up there front with everybody on all the things.
So yeah, no, in an inverted way, this would be even more weird.
Oh man, they totally expanded like a single panel into his entire moveset.
Well.
That's really funny.
Do you remember, do you remember when Sakura
had to get a moveset early on in those games?
So later, now you make a Sakura character
and you get to have her doing a bunch of Tsunade shit
with the healing
Early on in you look at the you know the cyber connect game or the GameCube game and inner Sakura during
Stands shit is the only way to go because she cuts her hair and she does a kunai toss
but then everything else is like uh
so yeah it sucks so bad inner sakura was literally her entire move set for those games you know
and then she goes and then you're yeah really like people are getting actually beat up because she has a stand you know so yeah if they do that with lyorio, I've seen this before. Wouldn't be the first time.
Whatever.
So yeah, that's that game.
And we will have this discussion again once it drops and it is what it is.
Yeah, probably.
Or maybe not.
It's impossible to know.
If it's fun to play though, you know, give it a fucking give it a give it a crack, but no okay. Well. I'm talking to the world
Like that can go past you that's okay. No
And then the other thing I'd like to shout out is
Dojo Masters is a fucking awesome indie
fighter that we sat down and played and very similar in its initial look and approach to
Arcus Chroma, which is the GX Grain Sun fighter that would like no jumping that we played
before and big fan of that. So Dojo Masters, pixel characters that are, yeah, no jumps,
just very grounded and you got to play footsies, you got to move back and forth, they have
their move list. And the game, so, but that's pretty much where, that's where the similarities
end, because what's happening in like this case is like each character is
Like a lot of games will say things or will do things like hey each character feels unique as if they're from their own game
Right. That's a thing. You will say about guilty gear where it's like oh shit
Like we say that about guilty gear every single time we talk about it because everyone's got their own system
Nagar Yuki is running this blood system. Happy Chaos has got his bullets in concentration.
What the fuck's going on?
Blood system, that's crazy.
And everyone has their own unique shit going on.
But they're sharing the bones there, right?
This game really takes that to the next level,
where it's like, no, no, no, no, no.
They really have their own shit going on.
Because, so you have like a boxer, Muay Thai,
Shotokan Karate, like you have like six or so characters
that are all, their names are just the style
of the martial art they're doing.
And punch, kick, and then like, yeah, you've,
yeah, punch and kick, and that's it actually.
And then everything you're doing is based. That's it? Yeah, punch button, yeah, you punch and kick and that's it actually. And then everything you're doing is-
That's it?
Yeah.
Punch button, kick button and directions.
And then everything you're inputting is based on just those two.
But like what gets really unique is, well, one, you don't have life bars, you get knocked
down and you can, when someone is at their stamina is all the way at zero you then can like finish them off essentially
So it's it's like a point system not to like almost like
Old fighters destiny back on the n64, you know, okay, you kind of had these like different knockdowns that you could
If you land on your back and you have no life left, that's the end of the round
However, if you tech you get back up so failing to tech is almost's the end of the round. However, if you tech, you get back up. So failing to tech is almost like... Oh, that's fucking fascinating. Right? You have these really
tight exchanges where it's like... Then there's un-techable things, of course. But if you just
land a solid hit, you know, and they go flying backwards and they should be dying, they roll
back out and like the fight keeps going. The uniqueness of it is not just like, okay, some characters have counters, some don't, some have grabs, some don't, right? Some have
armor and things like that and some don't. A character like Boxer,
the game does not have counter hits in it, but when Boxer is on the screen, counter hits exist for both characters.
Okay, okay. That's extreme. Okay okay that's that's
extreme. Extreme that's what I mean you
know only. Does it exist for both players? Yes. Oh that's crazy. When boxer is on the
screen the game now has counter hits for
both characters when he's not they're not
there. It's really it's cool it's really
cool and you know between the stamina bit they're not there. It's really, it's cool. It's really cool.
And between the stamina bit and like,
you have everyone's got like a special move
and it usually is like a knockdown move
and it in some cases has like really tight input as well,
but you can do it as much as you want,
but it takes a lot and you gotta to be on point to do it,
you know? So, yeah, like whenever you see someone pull one off, it's like, oh, fuck,
you did the whole thing and you hit it in your inputs and did it, landed it. Good shit.
That's that that took work, you know? Yeah, the end results are just kind of like this
insane fast footsie game of just left right knocking up and down like it's just fun man. You
have a you know you have characters that are getting in there with Krav Maga that
like have to predict whether you're gonna throw a punch or a kick at them
which again it's a two-button game and then if they counter the right way you
know they get a hit and then they build up like a move they build up there like
this little meter that gets them better and better specials, essentially.
When they use a special, they go down to the level before.
Each one's got this whole little unique thing going on to it, man.
It's a lot of fun.
It's extremely fast.
Playing a game against the creator as well with a boxer versus boxer match and then some
of the others, you can see this is going to be mad hype to watch sets of. It's called Dojo Masters once again. The Shotokan Karate character,
everyone you pick you can kind of just like do a quick dress up on and basically you're
seeing a Makoto who's got insane rush punch from across the screen that you can charge
up a dash, a grab, you know, and that grab can lead to a knockdown or a side switch.
And all these, yeah, it's just a really great fun thing.
We're gonna pop that on for a Get to Fighting game soon.
Oh, this looks super charming.
Yeah, it's out right now, but check it out, man.
It's one of the most hyped things.
It was one of those bits where,
I sit down at a couple games and I always go like,
okay, what's going on with this?
And here I walked over, and I remember wishlisting it on Steam a while ago.
And then the creator was just like, you're finally here.
And I was like, shit, okay, what's up?
Let's see it, let's see it, what do you got?
We sit down, ran some matches, me and Reggie played, and
then it was like, okay, getting a feel for it.
And then I saw some real matches, and I was like, fuck,
I see what we were missing.
And then at max speed when the game is going,
people screaming, popping off, it's very exciting.
So yeah, Dojo Master is real hype.
I'm gonna do an episode on that real soon.
That's pretty much me.
This week is gonna be pretty busy.
I got a lot going on that that I'm catching up with but the
plan right now... Oh! I did a podcast last week, Tears of a Clown, over on the last
podcast network. So that stream went out and I imagine the episode will go out on
the last podcast on the left channel at some point whole lot of fun over there with the guys from
whiz brew so
Go check that out as well. We ranked out
We ranked superhero powers is what it was
There is a literal clown
In the show that is that is there as well. I have been told I've been assured it was not a gift but literally a cloud
What is the clown's name?
Uh, Tierzo.
Tierzo the Clown.
Okay.
That's creepy. I don't like that.
Well, well...
I don't like clowns.
Yeah, a lot of kids don't either but for some reason we keep shoving them at children. I don't know what the deal is.
Dude, I remember- oh, I saw clowns at the circus and I freaked my shit. I was so upset.
Um.
Oh, I hated it.
Clowns are terrifying. But then, there's some good clowns. Bouncy clowns are pretty good.
I like those clowns.
I like Homie. Homie is my favorite clown.
Are you gonna say it or am I gonna- do we have to- I'm not- I'm not gonna say it. I'm not gonna say it or am I gonna do we have to I'm not I'm not gonna say I'm not gonna say it yeah okay he's great
anyway I probably gonna see if we can get in a session of Elden Ring or so on
Friday because I'm gonna have a busy week up until then. Last time I touched it
saw a motherfucker called DryleafDane. That dude's cool. He's cool. Got a dryleaf
set or glove or whatever. You get the glove one, yeah. Yo! Do you want to know something about
that weapon set?
Is it that the special that you get with it is ridiculous?
No, that's not it.
Okay.
Is that if you really, really like that one, there is an alternate version that is more
kicks.
They actually did that?
Wow.
Two martial arts things.
Sick.
The one that, yeah, this one is seem, I mean, I like punching, so I'm probably good, but
I definitely want to see.
Switching between the two as well as a style switch thing must be dope.
I ran this for a while where I put bleed on the fist and I put it in my left hand and
I had the biggest thing I could swing in my right hand.
And so anytime I needed to just do a shit ton of wide damage, I swung my right hand
and anytime I needed to go, get the fuck off me, I'd pop them with my left and it worked
really well.
I ran like multiple streams like that.
My instinct was to put the cold back on and step in and combo people.
Oh yeah, no, any status on that. But but the default
palm strike that it comes with is really fucking good because the super armor means if you can
take the hit that's coming at you it doesn't matter knock that fucker away and the palm blast
Knocks them on their ass big enemies are getting knocked on their ass
Just poised broken and then you can time it so that as soon as they get back up
You knock them on their ass again OTG like not even OTG. Okay, you know a
Couple fucking enemies that were lighter just you know don't exist and enemies that are heavier whatever bosses potentially you know it was wild so yeah
that DLC has a lot like a huge proportion of stuff where you're like oh
this is the best version of this thing that exists in the game right now so you
know I'm while I would be inclined to go to get my my cold step back back in there, I think, um, for the sake of, you know, enjoying variety and new shit,
since I played most of my game, skates and fists, um, yeah, I'm going to keep the fist
for now. The, the, the palm blast for now. Um, dry leaf arts is rad, man. I love it.
But of course it also means it's like, Hey, like, you're gonna have a hard time fucking up a ghost flame dragon
with a bunch of assholes shooting at it that are also all trying to attack you in a three
way battle.
Oh, man.
If you're running up to the dragon trying to punch its ankles.
The way you speak and the intonation of your voice, I legitimately got confused because you said the dry leaf farts.
Correct.
Yes.
Dry leaf farts.
The jump R2 one is particularly nice.
Farts.
Alright, yeah.
When you fight that enemy where it's like, hey, lock on to his back.
Running around without lock on was actually harder than just doing jump kick there.
So yeah, anyway. without lock on was actually like harder than just doing jump kick there so yeah
anyway I'm a rock that for a minute that thing's really good you could probably
rock that for a while and then I went down to the to the the meat pot dungeon
mmm oh you finally saw the meat pots the warrior warrior jars are awesome. Just don't ask what's inside.
Yeah, no, that's like awful.
That's very, very bad.
I don't like it.
That's a lot of body horror.
We kind of knew, you know, but-
Yeah, but seeing it is different.
Yeah, well the thing is, I just thought you were a congealed puddle of goo.
I didn't think it was like, oh no, wait, you actually take form.
And out of multiple different pieces and it's just...
Remember the really, really big one?
Yeah.
Think about it.
There's a lot of goo in there.
Anyway, so yeah, we're going to see if I can get another sesh. And I'm gonna wait for confirmation,
but yeah, of course, Chi Rithee is gonna pop over.
I'm gonna have him on, and we're gonna fucking.
Friend of the show.
I'm gonna do it, so yeah.
We'll let you guys know.
I'll post the, once I have confirmation,
I'll post that up on my Twitter.
So there, Wully Versus on YouTube, I'll post it once I have confirmation I'll post that up on my Twitter so
There willy versus on YouTube will versus on twitch willy wolves on Twitter
Evo was fun. I will I mean of course it was yeah
Hey, I need to take a quick break to empty out my body BRB. So I'll be right back.
How was your week?
Okay, let's see.
Being a dad's the best.
That's all for that.
It's great.
Baby's still the cutest baby of all.
Moving on to video games and whatnot.
Oh yeah, I haven't spoken to you in a bit.
Well, me and Paige got to,
oh no, wait, I talked about Good, Bad, the Ugly,
didn't I, last week?
Mm-hmm, mm-hmm, mm-hmm.
Okay.
The Man with No Name trilogy.
Right, right, okay, nevermind, moving on.
I finished the first chapter,
sorry, the second chapter of Zenla's Zone Zero,
which is chapter one, like there's a prologue
in there, chapter one.
Oh yeah, okay, I think that's where I got to. I'm really liking it. I think I'm really liking it quite a bit.
That's right. I haven't before. That's right as the
the bear troop
gets introduced, right? I have, yeah, I'm right before meeting BellBlog Construction. Yeah, okay, so I think we're at the same place. Cool.
Yeah, I'm really liking it.
I think a huge proportion of that game is being carried on the fact that it feels really good to hit the buttons.
And its audiovisual presentation is just top notch.
Yeah, hitting the buttons, it like, it does feel good. It is still like mindless in that like you're mainly looking out for the defensive aspects.
But then when you start to work in the character specific abilities and the defensive, it all
comes together in a way that I was like, that's sufficient.
Yeah.
And the onboarding is very slow
Oh like there I'm still in like the when I do the the zone zero. I'm still
Sorry hollow zero. I'm still doing like the qualification tests for my weekly crap
So are you sticking with a couple of characters or you like changing it up each time?
So are you sticking with a couple of characters or you like changing it up each time?
Right now well the main thing is that I'm
Building up one team until I can max them completely out
Which is Ellen like and and so kaku?
And then once that's done. I'll be making a second team out of I
Don't fucking know okay. I don't know, something.
But yeah, no, it's been, the fact that the daily takes like 40 seconds is very nice for the days
in which I don't have time to put into it.
I did boot it up on my phone just to have it, and I was planning to like jump in and see what was going on
Maybe at some point which I never ended up doing
That 40 seconds is while that is nice. It still is a very
Detailed game which means booting it up is is more than 40 seconds
It takes me longer to load in on my phone. Motherfucker, that is a strive ass boot up sequence.
And Nikkei was the same thing.
These games are not fast jump in, jump out.
The boot up process.
Well what are you doing logging out?
God, it takes a long time.
They update them damn near every day. Yes, which is one of the reasons
So yeah, whatever the whatever the like it's a quick thing is it's like you multiply that
Mm-hmm
Let me think
After that I played two games that the publisher sent me a code last week
I played something called another Crab's Treasure.
Oh yeah, I was watching footage of that on Twitter and I was considering playing it because
it's the fucking Crab Souls.
So that is... it's not Crab Souls!
It's Crab Elden Ring.
And I thought it was Crab Souls until I got through the tutorial or like the first chapter
and got to the big super wide open area called the Sands Between.
And I was like, oh, okay.
I did see as well the developer was kind of just like, oh, okay. I did see as well the developer, you know was kind of just like hey
Anyone why don't we get people to check this crab game out? I was like I see you crab game. I'll check
It feels really good. It's mechanically super solid
It's fascinating. This the writing is super super on point
It's very like the capitalist hellscape has come to the ocean
ha
It's it's really really fucking great
And it's not easy
But if you need it to be easy
They have included an easy mode and it might be my favorite easy
mode I've ever seen, where you go on to assist mode and one of the mechanics is that your
shell acts as a shield, but it also activates whatever ability or spell you can cast. Well, the assist mode changes your shell into a pistol strapped to your crab's back that
is like 25 times larger than the crab.
And the special ability is shoot the pistol. Okay. With infinite ammo. So difficulty reduction via gun in
the game. Via gun, yes. Yeah, okay, yeah, that makes sense. I don't really have a
lot of detailed thoughts on it. It has like a really concise moveset where
it's focusing more on like building building up your core moves instead of getting new
weapons like more Sekiro than Elden Ring or Dark Souls.
It just feels really good.
It's very charming.
It looks very good.
No notes, just really excellent, cute little game.
Yeah.
I liked the art style of the last game going under that they made.
This is definitely, yeah, this was on the list.
I was going to check this out at some point when I had an opportunity.
For tone, people keep pointing out, and I should mention, that your sole equivalent
is microplastics.
You need to acquire lots of microplastics in order to level up.
That's great.
It's fucking hilarious is what it is.
And of course the Gianni Everywhere system is in play.
Yeah, of course.
Yeah, of course.
I also got sent a code for Angerfoot by Devolver.
Have you seen footage of Angerfoot?
No, but those are words that sounds good together.
Okay, you know what? I'm just going gonna go ahead and send you the gameplay trailer. You'll only have to watch it for like 15 seconds
I got it. Oh you got it already. Okay. It's hotline Miami in first person mm-hmm
missions run from
Like like some of the mission objectives to get like a gold star or
beat the mission in 10 seconds okay right like you line Miami yeah look at
these adorable fucking animals bleeding out yeah and they're all like weird
ugly Muppet freaks it's. But it's got a super intense pounding soundtrack. Missions
are super, super, super fucking short. And you are intended to replay levels over and
over and over to get them perfect or to do weird conditions like beat a level without
jumping.
For example?
Are you a man with a foot for a head in a mask?
No, you're a weird luchador guy and your name is Angerfoot.
And the game takes place in shit city where crime is the law And
You're you get your you get your for your first you get your last pair of primo sneakers
Before goo cop the leader of the violence gang steals your primo sneakers gotcha, okay?
So you need to go kill everyone in your way in shit city by kicking them with your anger foot
There is a until you probably eventually run into
the crime minister.
The crime minister, let's go.
That's pretty solid.
That's solid.
Good bit.
There is artwork of a character whose head is a hand.
That I'm not seeing right here.
That's weird.
I don't know who that is.
But like, yeah, no, if you look at the game and you're like, the game takes place in shit city. I
feel that really sums up the tone pretty perfectly.
Die, respawn, die, respawn, run.
Oh, yeah, no real fucking fast, real fast. Okay, like I'm
loaded. I you know, you load into to missions and it has like
the condition of like beat this mission in five seconds. I'm loaded. You know you load into missions and it has like the condition of like beat this mission in five seconds
I'm like how?
Like literally how how the fuck?
Yeah, I guess I'll need a different shoe. I mean shit see I have the ability to pull that off in
a game like
Samurai zero where it's platforming based and I can you know I'm used to that
Set in Samurai zero where it's platforming based and I can you know I'm used to that
To have to first person if I can't do my fucking super hot slowdown. I don't know what the fuck I I can't fast as fuck and there is no slowdown for shit. I can't do that
That sounds hotline Miami top view sure sure but
Run through a room and a and get a bunch of clean headshots?
Yeah, I don't know.
Headshots is...so, you know what?
That's perfect.
What a great example.
So enemies die in a single bullet.
Every enemy dies in one bullet or one kick.
They just die, which is part of the reason why it's so fast.
But there is an early mission that says, hey, kill 10 enemies in this mission with headshots.
And there's only 15 enemies in the stage.
So it's like, kill almost everybody with headshots.
I think it's like two or, mission two or three.
And I tried it and it's like, this is hard as fuck.
This is really really difficult and then by doing enough about
Through my missions I unlocked a new pair of shoes that made everyone's heads bigger and by
Like I mean like as large as their full body
Again on the head. Okay. Okay. Okay? I see yeah um I mean I in in
In Ghost runner right you could
Kind of like
You're meant to go through every room quickly and kill things quickly
While you parkour, but if you and if but if you're fast enough and agile enough
You can stay alive longer by being nimble is this the kind of game?
We're like yeah. Yeah, okay
You can pull that off like and like every single mission has like a time trial like condition on it
But like some of them were hard enough that I had to slow down and like really focus up, okay
and
so one of the one of the gimmicks is I was doing a stage in which I
was like it was like, it was like,
beat it super fast and don't jump.
And I'm like, and you do rooftop,
like rooftop to rooftop shit in that level.
I'm like, how?
So I found a vending machine and I kicked it
because you kick everything.
That's your only way to interact with anything
is to kick it.
And a bunch of energy drinks shot out. So I had an energy drink and it
doubled my speed. Like doubled it. Nice. And put like a visual blur on. Like Fry and Futurama?
Yeah, but that wasn't enough. That was not enough to like run from one roof to the next. I'm like,
how do I do it? Until I drank like three energy drinks
and the effect stacks.
And I was like teleporting around.
It was uncontrollable.
But that's how you do that mission super fast
without jumping.
Okay, so yes, actually fry with the cups of coffee.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, got it.
Yeah, it's super cool. I had to stop playing it though. I started a little sleepy and the game is like so intense
that I was I was like I was starting to like sweat and
just like getting like
Visibly worse and worse and worse as I was streaming it because it demands you at your peak stimulated.
Like you need to be on your caffeine.
Ultra kill.
Yes, very, very ultra kill.
In fact, like some of the mission things of like be like some of the conditions feel like
very ultra kill of like, how can you possibly ever even do that in this mission? Okay, like turns out there's a secret
Yeah, I think I think getting getting to
To be half decent at not getting killed an ultra kill is good is coming in handy because I feel like I'm so that you're
Talking about this and then there was another game that I think all that magic
I think you're thinking enough not even that one
Oh Jesus really no not even that one
but but but you and you did well not and there was the goon when you talked about last week, but
No, no, no, no, no, it was about goons you talked about I talked about fallen aces
Yeah, it was fallen aces, but no no no nice and slow yeah, no. Not that, the one I'm talking about is called...
It's four words and it's awesome.
Okay.
Fuck, it's not.
That's the least helpful description
I've heard of anything all day.
I went to my recent list and it's not showing up there.
God damn it.
Fuck, okay, well. Give me a color to work like blood ammo fuel
That's ultra kill again, but I know but it's like but it is it sounds like it but it's not
It's a title. That's like four words that are it's like that like that blood sugar sex magic
Words that are it's like that like that blood sugar sex magic
Well, yeah, I am your beast is that it's certainly isn't I am your beast
What is this? Oh? This looks cool. I'll add this to the wishlist blood fuel
Ammo speed blood fuel ammo speed is the name of the game. Geez, okay, you weren't kidding.
Oh, I remember this, this looks like a nightmare.
And I don't mean like that is like a metaphor,
I mean like this looks like what a nightmare looks like.
Color, it's all black and it's all monochromatic.
It's black, white and fucking red.
Black and it's all monochromatic. It's black white and fucking red
and and just
Good go at fast go kill fuck yeah
You should make a game called fast go kill fuck
Yeah, that's a good one anyways
So yeah anger foots fucking awesome, so is another crab. And I started playing Dishonored 2 last night.
Oh, back to that.
I did not, well not back, I never started it.
So Dishonored 1, all of my complaints
of the Dishonored Chaos system are exclusive
to Dishonored 1, which I did eventually over time
beat a long time ago, like two years ago, I think.
Start of Dishonored 2 as the game that I've been putting off for years and years and years, because it's the most mind-goblin one of them all of have to do it perfect, have to ghost every
level. Because of the stealth for this. Yeah, I, yeah. I remember. And I'm like, I'm just going to fucking go for it. And I just went for it. And you know,
I don't think you're supposed to kill 21 people during that initial tutorial. That seemed
insanely high. But you know what? It was fun. It was fun as fuck and I feel like for at least the time period of right now I
Have broken that curse Goblin defeated
For now, okay, okay. This is progress. This is good. It is progress
also the fact that that game is like
Absolutely like absolutely stellar, top to bottom.
It aged super well.
It looks gorgeous still.
Was the bit that like going either route was drastic
in how the story or like good or bad endings progressed
or something like that?
Or was it just?
I'll just give you a refresher course.
So the main issue with Dishonored
is the Dishonored one gives you two non-lethal tools and 45 knives, guns, and explosives.
And then when you start the game, it goes, hey, if you kill a lot of people, you'll
create a high chaos, which will end with worse reactions from your friends, a negative effect on the girl you're trying to rescue,
and a worse outcome for the city.
And so the game is like, hey, murder is wrong.
But the problem is that 60% of that game's systems
are isn't fighting cool in this game?
Mm-hmm, mm-hmm, mm-hmm.
Right, yeah. of that game's systems are, isn't fighting cool in this game? Mm-hmm, mm-hmm, mm-hmm.
Right, yeah.
And so, like, it's definitely not just me that was, like, very frustrated with Dishonored
One in that, like, whenever you ended up getting into a fight or killing people or what have
you, it felt like, oh, you're doing it wrong, even though the game accommodates for that
and goes high chaos.
And the idea from the devs was that high chaos gives you more targets to fight because that's
the game you want to play.
If you are going through the first three levels of the game, fighting your ass off and shooting
dudes and being first person Devil May Cry, then they're like, okay, fine, we'll fill
the levels with fucking dudes to fight.
Here you go.
And I'm remembering the discussion was like comparing with like Human Revolution and Bioshock
One, right?
I think so. I think the irony is that Human Revolution actually is like the single worst
game ever with its non-lethal system because non-lethal kill, non-lethal takedowns and human
revolution give you more experience than lethal takedowns.
So flat X bonuses. Yeah. So if you want to do better, you
should not take out people non-lethally. I mean, I
remember that's that's like a mechanical push. Yeah, that's
not like the actual number going higher is
Not good. Yeah, I remember like in
Sons of Liberty it was like okay, Trank gun get your trunk bullets out and then like use the blue sword
You know, so cuz sorting is fun, but it would be lame if you couldn't sword people but yeah, so
the Because sorting is fun, but it would be lame if you couldn't sort people, but yeah, so um the
So dishonor to is an immersive sim I
because You can either say it's about stacking crazy
Msim yeah, you can either say it's about stacking crates to get into events to avoid a whole area of enemies
Or you could say it's an M sim because the first safe in the game opens to the code 451.
0451?
Well, if it's a three-digit code, it's 451. If it's a four-digit code, it's 0451.
So then Zenless Zone Zero is an M-Sim?
Funnily enough, Zenless Zone Zero may be an M-Sim because it does feature the code 0451. But yeah, it's one of those.
But it's all these little fun interactions.
Like I was choking out a guy only to get caught by somebody else because I didn't realize
they were visible. So I took the guy I was choking and then threw
him at the second guy which knocked him off balance and then I stabbed both of them.
Which is like just little interactions like that. him at the second guy which knocked him off balance and then I stabbed both of them.
Which is like just little interactions like that.
Of note for Dishonored 2 is that you have two characters with two separate sets of powers.
You have the Corvo from the first game who has all the powers he had the first time around
and you have Emily who is the new character who has a completely different set of powers.
Like instead of having blink she has a grappling hook kind of tether kind of thing and while
it's not as good as blink in terms of like traversal because they can see you grappling
like you're not just instantly teleporting you can pull enemies off of things and you
can pull objects towards you.
Which version of the game you playing? I'm playing on PC. Okay. And there's a really strange knock-on effect.
I've been thinking a lot about it, about like what broke me of it, and I feel like
I've taken the absolute backwards lesson from the game design changes
they made. So one of the things that Dishonored 1 had
a problem with is that if you were trying to go stealthy and sneaky and non-lethal,
but you got caught, you basically had your crossbow sleep darts as a non-lethal option,
and that was it. You could not fight people non-lethally, right? In Dishonored 2, they've
said, listen, if you parry somebody, you can choke them
out. So even if you do get into a fight, you can in fact end it non-lethally.
But you gotta be skilled.
Yeah, there's stun grenades and whatnot. And so the tools are actually much more even.
And choosing lethal or non-let lethal is more of a flavor choice or
you know what have you rather than like a huge mechanical change like two
different systems. Now it's like one system with different flavors being
lethal and non lethal as a result of these being so similar.
I have now started killing people all over even though I could spare them
Like oh, oh it's I get to enjoy the system the same no matter what oh, yeah, I'm gonna kill them then okay
Fuck it, and it's like this is obviously not what they intended but like is the chaos consequence different in two
It's it's more subtle. There's more changes
But the basic idea is that the more you kill, the more there will be to kill. Okay. Metal Gear has always had this balance in a way
that it's like, okay, you're going to suffer to walk behind this asshole real slow like, knock him out,
and then hide him from view of the others,
versus murder that dude,
and if someone's about to see the body,
murder that dude too.
So that's what ended up happening,
where I'm like, if there's a guy there back to me,
and they're in an empty room, and it's a single person,
I'm like, okay, well, I'm gonna choke them out.
There's no reason to kill them.
It's totally ridiculous, right?
When you're dealing with the marked targets, like the important character targets, it's
like, oh, there's a special condition to do some kind of zany thing to non-lethally take
them out.
Okay, I'll try that.
But I kept running into the situation where it's like, well, I tried to do this non-lethally and I fucked it
So everyone who saw me has to go and it's way faster to just stab and shoot you guys
Than it is to slowly choke you out
I imagine it's not like a hitman progression of like, uh-oh
alert has happened and you're going to hit
a room of people, too many people to handle.
No, it's the areas are, you know, they're like 30 feet, you know, like little pockets
of guys that are tangled together.
Okay.
But like, you know, I screwed up sneaking into a little bar and a guy saw me and I was
like, oops, and I killed him. But then a civilian saw that and freaked out ran away and brought like ten guards and then I
They had to go and like I wasn't gonna run away because I don't want to run away because I'm tired of doing that from
Sonner one and so I got to the end of the first level having killed like almost every guard by accident was accident
Whatever the Goblin needs to feed.
But yeah, no, that game's incredible. And despite Arcane Austin going under, I have
high hopes for Arcane Lion because they're making Blade. And Blade is just a one-to-one sticker over
of the Dishonored system.
All the buttons are there.
It can just literally be Dishonored 3,
by the way, starring Blade.
I hope that comes out and everything is okay.
I hope that comes out. That would be nice.
With this Marvel property.
Yeah.
I also played a... I did a Beat the Backlog and played a ton of shit in there.
But of note to you is a game called Sanabi.
Sanabi.
Yeah, I don't know how to pronounce it because this game's got no voice acting.
It is a game about what if you were a person that liked Bionic Commando?
Oh. Is the game.
Ah, a game in the grapple genre. Yes, a game in the grapple genre.
I am a fan of the grapple genre. In, a game the grapple genre. I am a fan of the grapple genre. In
which the primary gameplay is you're going to grapple and when you fight enemies, they're
going to be all around a stage and they're going to be pointing at you and shooting at
you and you're going to kill them by grappling to them and then leaping off of them. I see.
There's no attack button. There's only grapple. Yes. Yes a Game that might be ported to the Woolie's brain
Platform. Yes
The of notes because you can't tell looking at it is that the swinging feels
perfect
It feel like it has all the right momentum. it has the right inertia, the grapple goes
out at the right speed.
It feels like, it kind of feels like Spider-Man 2's momentum.
It's not just a grapple, it's also a zipline.
Yes.
That's an important distinction.
It's real good.
It's also got a very very
It's got an incredible introduction
Like a fast like incredible opening level really really really good. This looks hot
It is hot
And that's pretty much it for me You can check me out this week at twitch.tv slash Pat stairs at my hours are all over the for this week
Because we got stuff going on in the evening.
So please go ahead and check the schedule that's posted on my Twitter or Twitch.
Tomorrow is more beat the backlog and then we're going to be going back to more Dishonored.
I'm probably going to do all of Dishonored because god damn, that thing is incredible.
Okay, so something I actually forgot to mention that is quite significant is
Before going to Evo I did talk about how I'm tired of being
the fucking setup Draggr and
I'm tired of having yeah
I remember you talking about that and you're right to be tired of that because it sucks
So the day before I got on the plane I bought a steam deck
Yeah, yeah, you get the OLED. I did
That's that's a better one. I'm considering I
Don't think I'll get the OLED but when they come out with the next steam deck, which they will yeah, I'll grab that one and
Immediately it was like okay cool. Let's go and it's like oh wait fuck
The dock is crucial for the playing of games in the set it is Immediately, it was like, okay, cool, let's go. And it's like, oh, wait, fuck.
The dock is crucial for the playing of games in the set up.
It is.
And I was like, I was able to get the deck itself
with extremely short notice.
Can I get a dock?
No, I can't.
Fortunately, you can get a third party dock, right?
Well, not even, but you can get a hub,
which is just a normal USB hub that's like USB-C
to like two A's, HDMI and an Ethernet, and like that's fine.
As long as it's powered up somewhere,
then you're good to go.
And then the charger for C going pass through.
So I basically made my own dock by taking that and the, I kept, I knew I might need
it someday.
I kept the little piece of metal that came with the Wii U for setting it up on its upright
on your table or so, right? The Wii U Catablet had a fucking little piece of metal
and it fits perfectly for the Steam Deck.
So I got that sumbitch out and it was all I needed.
I don't know what to say because this is one
of those situations in which you add the foresight
and you are completely right,
but I still feel like shaking my head like you were wrong,
even though you're objectively completely right.
Tame in the clutch, man.
It was like I literally, I looked everywhere and I'm like, there's no way there's nowhere
I can get an official doc or even a third party doc within the day because I'm flying.
You know what that is?
Somebody in chat just mentioned it That's my dad who always had the right piece of wood just hanging out in the garage
Yeah, whenever anything. Yeah, he's like you know what you know what?
Hold on and it would come back and he'd he'd have like the right piece of wood. He was saving
It was underneath the fucking fishing rods. Why did you keep that? I kept that for moments like this
What does that fucking mean? How long you had that? I you know, I always like ever since that day of like getting ripped off
Selling my games. I'm like fuck this. I'm keeping my shit. I might want to use it again someday
You never know when even if you buy something digitally or whatever, it's gonna be gone. So let me just keep my shit
I have my consoles. I have my old shit, that was there.
Fucking came in the clutch.
So.
Oh!
I also forgot to talk about something.
Okay, but I, so I mean, just to finish the thought though.
I was very prepared for that to be a very rough solution to the I want my fighting games on the go
Problem
It's a lot less rough than you expected isn't that holy shit man it runs dude
Like you can run Street Fighter 6 on it. No problem 100% and like it's not just on low settings either. It's like
Low mid you can customize a bit. You know what I mean like you run the frame rates fine. That's what matters frame rate
Yeah, it's the
PC version of six on my computer proper has more hiccup
Than this did on a lower setting.
It's crazy.
I was very impressed with that, actually.
What did you use for controls?
Just controllers?
I plugged in a dual.
The splitter came with a... I plugged in my DualSense and then a stick.
Yeah, no, easy peasy, man.
Done.
It's crazy.
Okay, so the Steam Deck though, when you plug into the stick or controller whatever
Like it's you're gonna need to make sure it recognizes it correctly the first time. Yeah, there's there's no plug-and-play
While the game is already booted so no, but that's that's a game by game basis
Like there are regular ass, but I played nothing but PC games whether or not your game
I play nothing but PC games. Whether or not your game acknowledges you plugged it in or turned it on wirelessly is
a game by game basis.
Street Fighter on PC just doesn't do that.
They don't care.
Have your controller on.
If you're setting up a Steam Deck and you have people coming in to play sets or whatever
in an airport and they're plugging their own controller in, you're going to have to close
the game each time.
Yeah, no. That's not the use case.
The use case is plug two regular controllers in
and pass them between people.
And they're like, well, my thing,
and you're like, shut up, we're in an airport.
Take what you can get.
Exactly, a thousand percent, right?
And then I ran Tekken, just for the fuck of it.
And yeah, Tekken's a bit rougher for sure.
It's running on a lower setting.
But I didn't see a ton of drops, you know?
It felt like this is perfect for labbing.
I would never take it online.
I mean, you can't Ethernet in if you know what the port,
so that's a possibility.
But as far as this goes, it absolutely is a great little practice machine on the go.
And most importantly, on the fucking plane, I got my balatro in and that was an easy flight. Hey listen, I don't know how many weeks in a row
we can mention it and it'd be appropriate,
but I'm holding up my telephone right now,
which apparently is supposed to get balotro.
Where's my balotro on my telephone?
Millions of dollars on the table.
Millions of dollars.
Yeah, it was either way, I'm like,
yo, having it on the go was incredible.
It's also nice that you can play it
with the controller as is, or you can literally just touch
because it's built for mouse controls as well.
And cloud saving means I can literally
resume my same save too.
So, Balotro on the go is, it feels exactly as awesome
as you think it will. Mm-hmm.
Uh, yeah, man.
Fucking Steam Deck OLED, like, really impressive so far with that.
Um, what was your forgotten piece?
I got a backbone phone controller.
Oh!
The fucking side clip where you put the phone in the middle.
Yeah. Huh. Yeah, huh? Um
Why not just connect the controller directly?
so
Let's like I I went over this a bunch and it's like have I've used a clamp
You know like a metal clamp that connects your like dual sense to your phone and you hold the phone up, right?
What you discover when you do that is
For those of you watching the video, you know like this right your phones up here on top of the thing
that
That is the heaviest least comfortable shit in the fucking world
Wait that is underneath over the controller. It's it feels
So fucking awful the whole thing just feels like it's tilting forward and it feels like it feels like shit, okay?
What about tilting the phone up on like a little stand and then?
Well, that doesn't really work when you're lying on your back at night.
No, you need a surface or something near you.
Yeah.
Right?
So the backbone just is like, no, I've turned it into a Vita.
Okay.
So the point of that is the optimal for no surface in sight, I'm lying down, I want to
hold it.
I want my phone to be a PSP?
So as I'll did you get I got the PlayStation one cuz it's white, okay
And I put my green phone case into it. I think it looks nice
But it doesn't spend everything's gonna have Xbox buttons. So whatever
everything's gonna have Xbox buttons so whatever. As a I would like to turn my telephone into a Vita device it's really solid it works really well. I played
primarily Zenlason Zero on it and yeah I don't have a problem playing it on the goddamn phone with this thing.
I would put its build quality above a PSP or Vita, but below a genuine controller.
It connects via the USB at the bottom, right?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Okay.
And it has a pass-through in case your phone's's... Yeah. Yeah. Okay.
And it has a pass-through in case your phone's about to die.
Oh, okay.
I was going to ask, is there like a Bluetooth you can do if you need to or something?
But like, okay, pass-through works.
Yeah.
Yeah, no.
On the right side, there's the pass-through.
Because that's the other bit is like, if I want to play...
So when I was playing the Apple Arcade games and I just connected the 360 controller, like
having it hooked up to a battery and or plugged in so that you don't lose juice is also official. It also works really really well with
Steam Link. So like Paige was using the the big TV that we have the computer on
and I was crafting bullshit in FF14 on my telephone. Okay.
Which I could have done before,
but now that I have a bespoke,
like turn your phone into a PSP device,
works a lot better.
Okay.
Well, I'm glad that the,
cause I know it's like, it looks like a PlayStation controller,
but the question is, does it feel like one, right?
No, it feels like its own thing.
It feels good, but it definitely feels like, it feels like a handheld.
But not like a, not like a, not, okay.
It doesn't feel like a PlayStation handheld and it doesn't feel like a Nintendo handheld.
It feels like a high-end PC handheld. If that ticks any boxes.
Like the buttons are small but clicky, but it's a good clicky.
Third party controller, but like good third party.
Not the shitty ones. Yeah, okay. I know what you mean.
It's too expensive. I bought it on sale.
Don't buy it on full price. That's ridiculous.
It's like $130.
Is the frame adjustable for all phone types?
So they have a part of their website that it will tell you not only what...
So you pull out and it extends and it expands quite large.
But on top of that, they also will have a section of their website that says, hey, do
you have the following phones?
Here are the cases that will work with it.
It's a huge list of cases.
So the extension is its own piece and then the case goes in, of course.
No, no, the idea is that basically I don't have to take my phone out of its existing
case to plug it in to the controller. Oh, wow. Okay. You keep your phone. It doesn't
have to be the phone. Oh, wow. Okay. That's nice. So if your phone is big as fuck and
you have like an Otterbox case, they're going to be like, shut up, take your phone out.
That's ridiculous. Right? But this is like a relatively thin case, right?
I can just put that in there and it sits comfortably as the you adjust and that's why they have a little thing on their
Website to go. Hey, look, these are cases that you will not have to take your phone out and you could iPad as well. I
Don't think so. I don't know how an iPad would fit in there.
It's...
Oh, it doesn't expand wide enough to...
No, no, no.
Okay.
Okay.
I can...
Yeah, I can grab it and show off next week or whatever.
Yeah.
I really like it a lot.
My preference is still to just use an official controller and fortunately I got a battery
which magnet connects on the back of mine and with the battery there's a thing that
you can just straight up set prop this up even on your stomach.
I understand that.
I kind of just do this, rotate it sideways, prop it up on my stomach and then I can just
...
That works really well.
I spend a disproportionate amount of my daily life trapped under a sleeping baby.
Right.
Right, right, right, right.
Which leads all prop up your phone solutions to be non-viable.
Fair, fair.
Being able to play from any angle under any circumstances.
Also Zenla Zone Zero is definitely like high stimulation baby cornea annihilating like
flashing lights. So, like, having it on the phone in general is just a better solution overall.
Okay, so here's a good example.
As opposed to on the screen where the baby's going to lock in.
Yeah, so we have the living room, right, and we have like the chairs and couch facing the
TV and the TV will be on and I'll play Street Fighter.
Baby doesn't give a fuck about Street Fighter
Baby's like no these wooden toys these are the shit right here my little walker thing my little my little xylophone thing amazing Fuck and bison. I don't give a fuck right, but
If Zendla zone zero is on the screen, and it's just flashing fucking lights, baby looks and I go oh no
We can't have that right right right no that that that'll screw that give the baby iPad brain, but if baby is on you
It's not looking back baby is on me baby is asleep. Yeah, yeah, so it's not looking back to see or whatever
No, baby can't see nothing babies in dreamland and your headphones are on yes, gotcha, okay lot of tiptoeing
Okay, lot of tiptoeing well. I mean you'll be happy that if you do get a Steam Deck...
Oh, I do have one.
I just have the older one.
Okay.
OLED was a change to capacity and battery life.
And it's a little faster.
Okay.
It's like 5% faster.
It's really not the end of the world, but it is a little bit faster.
I see that they're sticking with the two thumb things from the Steam controller as well.
Those things on that thing are good.
You can actually use a mouse. Yeah, yeah, it's nice to have that.
They actually feel and work pretty well.
Although I don't like that they limit your range to the entire window and not the whole screen
Because when you go from the bottom to the top of the mouse so which your right thumb pad
It's it's only like the text box for example that you're covering
So I there's a lot of times where I want to use the cursor there and then I just switch to the touching the screen
Anyway, you know, there's a bit of there's a couple just like little foibles there, but yeah, otherwise very chill.
Also the Steam boot up screens that you can spend your whatever points on.
Yeah, that's fun.
Those are cool because to get my PSP doing that, I had to have the fucking hacked version
firmware.
You had to do all sorts of stupid shit.
Yeah, to get my Advent Children Cloud versus Sephiroth slash slash PSP.
Cool. get my Advent Children Cloud vs Sephiroth slash slash PSP.
You know, so.
Cool.
Okay, now actually my turn, bathroom.
Hooray.
BRB.
Big piss cast this week.
Yeah, a lot of piss.
All right.
Hey, before we continue onward,
since we had a piss break, I was able to get the thing., yeah, and for those of you who are listening to the audio version. I'm pulling the controller apart like a big asshole
So it fits a big old big old phone in there
Hmm, huh, I saw I thought I remembered it having like descending grips like a PlayStation controller, but maybe um
So just like that and then bam your phone
No, I
Was visually getting it confused with the actual?
PlayStation Wi-Fi
Yeah, but yeah as you can see if you jam your phone in there basically turns it into a PSP
Okay, that D pads. All right, it doesn't look great. Um
It's alright, it doesn't look great. Um... it's fine.
Okay.
I hate the little curve.
It's better than I thought, but it's not like a PlayStation D-pad.
Yeah, I'm hating the nub curves on it, but, you know, okay.
If the stick is solid, then, you know, it gets the job done.
Mm-hmm.
Um, Okay, so
Yeah, there were a bunch of announcements there was a bunch of shit that happened
Do you want to get through the bad news first?
bad news of the day
I mean
Which way we going the humble on this that
Which way we go in the humble on this that what happened? I didn't get a humble humble games publishing is dead now. They got laid off everybody got laid off this morning
God damn it did that happen while we were live
Right like ten minutes before right as we started okay, and
Dave Oshry
No, not Dave Oshry
Cromwell from Larian, the Larian PR guy, used AI detector
on the Humble Games statement and found out that it's assuredly AI written, that no one
even wrote the statement.
Back up, rewind, what is AI detector? Is that exactly what it sounds
like? It's a robot you jammed text into and it goes, yeah, chat GPT probably wrote this.
No shit. That's a thing we can do now. Oh yeah, because you use the AI to tell you whether
or not the AI would write it like that. That's wonderful. Okay. So do we get to do that with photos and video and all kinds of things now?
That'd probably be tough, but teachers need a lot of these types of tools to test for teaching.
Okay. Does this look like Artgerm drew it, but Artgerm did not draw it?
So yeah, that's a massive fucking bummer.
That sucks.
it. So yeah, that's a massive fucking bummer. That sucks. Humble Games Publishing brought us stuff like... Signolus! Okay, really? Wow. So, okay, that's the thing. My history of
mentally with Humble is I used to buy all those Humble bundles back in the day, you
know, some 10 years ago or so when it was like oh this crazy
Really cheap pack includes like fucking ten games in it and are pretty good ones
And then I would barely ever redeem them. I would buy a bunch and not redeem them
There's a humble bundle going on right now for dishonored to know your timing for like three bucks
Someone in the chat points out signal this project wingman hat in time and slay the spire
republished by Humble Games.
Okay. So yeah, I want because I'm like at a certain point,
like everyone kind of stopped grabbing those games as much as
they used to. And they switched over to being more of a
publisher than a like, package games broker, right?
What year was that?
Because I stopped...
I don't know.
It was a while ago.
I haven't looked at or used my humble account for anything in a very long time.
Even when I did use the humble account, I would just be like, spit out a Steam code.
They got bought by IGN. Okay. Yeah, no, no, it's IGN's fault. I'd okay because like I this does this is shit
But it's also like I haven't heard of them in a long time and didn't really know what was going on there
But hearing that signal is in these and hadn't time in these games were published by them. It's like oh shit
Okay, I didn't connect that that was the case recently. So
They that's mainly what they were they were about at this point. Got it.
Yep.
Well, I hope I can.
So there's your bad news of the day.
Okay.
I feel like at some point we discussed this some years ago
and I kinda was like, I should go back
and try to grab all my keys that I never redeemed.
And I did a few of them, but there was still way too many.
And I was like, okay, well, it is what it is.
And then there's just premium good shit like Harada versus Lily Pichu.
Yeah.
Oh, man. Harada versus Lily Pichu. Oh
Man was he there as Harada or did he in fact go under a fake name? I'm pretty sure he was as he was I think he was just Harada
Yeah, because when they asked him sir was once AJ mass and what his name was he was like Matthew
Something and yeah, Lily Pichu beats him in the set and Harada grabs the mic and take like after the Tekken goes like I quit this game
That's great fucking awesome and now and now on Twitter he's like I want to run back
Give me another shot. Yeah, no I want to run back
Just give me a patch to nerf Lily into the dirt first man great
Or nerf Lillian into the dirt first. Oh man, great. Or perhaps wait for the next character to drop
because fucking Heihachi's coming.
So Harada is joining the likes of Ed Boon.
So okay, but you have to,
the fact that the trailer for the character and story content cuts to the characters in the lore saying hey Hachi's dead and then him in an interview for promotion going completely dead.
He's the deadest ever.
Like the lean into like I am lying.
You cannot trust me has never been more complete.
I think there's a lot of fun to be had here.
I think Raven is now like the dumbest motherfucker in Tekken.
Which Victor is on the phone going,
dude, what the fuck are you talking about?
Like, you need to check your work, man.
You're on thin ice, bro.
I think Heihachi coming out of the lava
looking better than he went in
is maybe the funniest thing
that's ever happened in fighting games.
Like, Bison is back on the horse
and he's a shell of who he used to be.
Yeah, he's like falling to pieces and all that shit and hey Hachi is actually
rejuvenated
I'm like scrolling through the Tekken 7
Because I want to say
that
Yeah, you you you all but see him hit the lava
Yeah, you all but see him hit the lava.
Like, I'm looking at this screenshot of Heihachi disappearing into a fucking nightmare of flame.
Like, the hair is, it's almost black,
it's almost young Heihachi again, you know?
Yeah, incredible.
No one ever really dies. I am glad that they took my advice and brought back the guest character from soul caliber to
Heihachi Mishima as a as a new DLC character in this game
the dude from Blazblue
That was so good I I saw people talking about like digging around in the files. Supposedly there's the possibility that the last character might be Kazumi. A character that was never alive ever in the history of Tekken I
Mean for flashback purposes. She's she's you know in that last one, but then hey family reunion, right?
It is interesting because is is like the biggest punk ever now like he has the Akuma problem
Like multiplied over. Yeah now you know we got to see him raging at the shoe collection. Okay so as washed as
Kazuya is, this takes so much fucking shine away from Reina it's not even
funny dude. Like Reina immediately to the back. So like, I think Reyna is still really cool,
but also it's like funny because like Reyna was never even planned to be Heihachi's replacement.
Heihachi was always going to come back.
This is the first season of DLC.
They teased her devil trigger, but that's it, I guess. Who cares? Look at this fucking
mountain school of people and nobody noticed that they were up there doing electrics at
any point.
Bro, I'm rewatching this Heihachi trailer and like there is a lot of stupid, stupid shit happening
in this trailer of note to me is that like this is a unknown organization of warrior
monks that are all happening to be training like hey Hachi like mm-hmm, I feel like there is an actual
Legitimate possibility that hey Hachi went back in time. I
Like after falling through that volcano. I mean it's that's some wild shit
It would be interesting if it was like oh Reyna is actually directly
Taught from him and connected to
that group and that's what her whole backstory is going to be. So we'll see how that turns
out. But yeah, I mean, hey, man, I said everything last time we talked about Bison on this, but
it's like, yeah, all right, time doesn't exist. I there's nice There's nothing else to it. I had a
Everybody's on social media where somebody was like I really wish they would let these new characters breathe
Etc etc to which I responded with who cares scissor kicks. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. I want to do scissor kicks. Oh, yeah
and more importantly and smarter than me is that someone pointed out that like they know people that are still asking for back
Right, even though back and whoring are literally the same character and it's like it's it's it's vibes
It's it's who you gel with. I mean, do you want?
Julia Chang JC the the luchador style, or do you want her mom before that? Michelle. Michelle, you know? Yeah. Hey, man, you want
to talk missed opportunities. Hey, we're going to advance the characters forward. It's a
new generation. And this girl's a one-to-one clone of her mother
With no changes same move set. Do you want Lee or violet?
Shut up. I won't I prefer I actually prefer file. I want both
Yeah, yeah, so mm-hmm
Yeah, it's interesting like I was I was why does he look younger after coming?
Because shut up fuck off
It's a Hachi because because because of the reaction that everyone gave watching that on stream. That's why
Yeah, yeah. So, yeah, I do. It is also kind of wild, too, because, like, okay, not every
character can get this type of thing. Like, he has the whole being dead bit with him and with his
character. And that's a part of the ongoing fucking meme with him. When a game comes out and like,
there's the big reveals of like, of course, this person's going to be here, it still does
end up feeling sometimes like non-announcements. When Nina shows up, you're like, of course,
Nina.
Yeah. Oh, wow, Nina, the character that's been in every single Tekken.
It's like, okay, that pack, the new stage,
new story mode and fucking, yeah, healthier than ever, Hey Hatchie.
Okay.
Then we got the tees.
And is, the question question is are you okay?
Mm-hmm and the answer it depends depends on when you ask
You know terry bogard is in street fighter six. He's doing it burn knuckle
We saw previews of the costumes that you're going to be able to dress up as blue mary or as joe higashi
Yo, I love these knockoff
fucking non characters there they're fucking hilarious and
So Terry Bogard looks like he's an aged old white dude
He looks like a guy who's too normal for Street Fighter 6 is art style
The conversion into the Street Fighter 6 re-engine real people system is
Interesting because we saw for Ryu how this went in with Ken and you're like, okay
We got to get used to seeing them as the closer to human being than ever before more than as art the art style
Terry Bogard's that he is this fucking pizza delivery boy white dude, and then he gets like, you know, absolutely
And then as time goes on yeah shit gets rough. He sees some shit dude and then he gets like, you know. Oh, absolutely. And then as time goes on, yeah, shit gets rough.
He's seen some shit, he's raised a kid,
he's barely making rent, it is what it is.
But in general, I think it's just,
most people expect Terry to be more hot.
And he looks fine, but he looks a little more ragged
than he does look perfectly hot. That's it. Like, it looks like Terry but he's just, he looks a little more ragged than he does look like perfectly hot.
That's it.
Like he looks, it looks like Terry.
He's there, that's him.
I can see it.
I see the age.
I believe it.
I don't have an issue with that.
But I think the reaction from most people is like,
why is he not as hot of a dude
when he converts to real life than I expected?
I think my feeling on how Terry looks
is gonna depend dramatically on how much of his
face is covered by his hat in his default idol.
Because I think of the King of Fighters games in which his head is dipped real low, or like
CVS2, where his hat is covering a good third of his face.
And the smart thing about the Mark of the Wol wolves design is that when he has the shag
That covers a lot of his face too, and it has the same effect, right?
So you the shag is kind of mostly over his his brow and over the sides
So a lot of the like Terry's face is always kind of covered by a little bit in both styles
I think I think seeing
that face with the shag hair is going to look extra weird when the time comes. I'm concerned
about how that's going to look.
It's going to be clean Ken.
It might be, but Ken doesn't look as old by comparison, you know? I think as well, there's
probably a thought that like he can't look exactly like Ken right
No in anime not like they used to be able to when they were always in different games in anime rules you go
Hey, look, it's that blonde American looking guy, but Ken could have the big black eyebrows to make to distinguish
Yeah
And like there's some versions of them that look like really really fucking similar like alpha when he's got his alpha hair
And yeah, and Terry's got the long ponytail exactly like they're they're like one-to-one overlap each other because hot blonde guy
Hot anime blonde guy, you know, and there's even times where Vega looks like them to depend up depending on the artwork, you know
Like he's Vega blonde or brunette
Does that depend depends? it depends is is artwork, you know? Like he's. Is Vega blonde or brunette?
Does that depend?
Depends.
It depends.
Is Birdie sick or black?
You know?
So which one is it?
Yeah, it depends.
But it seems to be brunette in most cases.
I'm not touching that.
Mm-hmm.
be brunette in most in most cases. Not touching that.
Mm-hmm.
Um, the uh, uh, yeah, I think, I think the, the Terry we get here, it might also be the
result of, you know, a little, maybe a little bit of Capcom being like, okay, well, both
these characters are here and they're blonde and Ken's gonna look like Ken.
Terry can take some grizzle on him.
He can take some age.
He can get some attachy lines going on the face.
Also, it's kind of strange to see an older Terry
in his original outfit.
Because older Terry's always associated to me
with Mark of the Wharves.
But this is where IP brand guest stuff comes into play.
Yeah. Right?
That outfit is Terry fucking Bogard.
Yeah.
No matter what time it is.
And the other outfit is like if you've been paying attention,
you got this cool shit over here, but that's always the alt.
And further back than that is the long sleeves,
which I do hope they find a way to work that in.
But yeah, other than that, though, it's like OK.
No gameplay yet. We'll see. But we're other than that though, it's like, okay,
no gameplay yet, we'll see.
But we're gonna get the Pow Pow Cafe.
So that's cool.
That's cool.
And I don't know that they will allow
other official characters to show up in World Tour,
but I imagine Mai and Terry will just chill at that stage.
Yeah, probably.
And perhaps they'll just be like, here's more cosmic costume outfits.
Put on some fucking Wolfgang Krauser shoulder pads or whatever.
But yeah, I'm looking forward to seeing how Terry Bogard drive rush into crack shoot works.
That's going to be super weird mm-hmm like his his moveset is pretty normal, but I feel like in the Street Fighter 6 system
It's gonna look really strange
Also, there's like 35 different versions of Terry Bogard like what the fuck
Yeah, like
quintessentials right um
I I could and like they've mixed and matched in some cases too.
Like I can see, you know, Power Wave being a full screen projectile, but then like the
EAC, the OD version being like the big utility, like short range one or vice versa.
Yeah.
You know?
Like is he going to have the power dunk or is he going to have rising taku?
Both. the power dunk or is he gonna have rising taku both well I yeah I think I
think the the seat cuz Capcom versus SNK one had like the EX mode where it's like
we gave them all their moves that you would reg remember and then the default
was we picked the was that were the most iconic you know yeah so rise and tackle
burning burn knuckle power wave power dunk crack shoot that's the five you know So, Rise and Tackle, Burn Knuckle, Power Wave, Power Dunk, Crack Shoot.
That's the five, you know?
And if you're feeling frisky, you can do the shoulder shackles as well.
Then they leaked and revealed the full season of Guilty Gear Strive Season 4.
Shocking, absolutely no one,
that girl from the anime is one of the characters.
Of course, right?
Super called out on that one.
It's like the most obvious fucking thing in the world.
Her design looks like it's made for it.
What's interesting is how, if anything,
the leaked Street Fighter VI character, the roster and then season have changed the
announcements for two games now because Street Fighter decided after that initial full roster
leak to continue and announce the full season at once.
And I think they realized that it was like, yo, people get really, really hyped
for the full announcement.
It's still awesome.
And it doesn't hurt the releases of each character as much because while it's not that shock
wave of holy fuck, the character's here, it's still a shockwave of we can get to see them gameplay of the
character and then the actual them showing up are two still big pops. So we didn't get
to see any Terry gameplay. And once people get hands on, there's still subsequent moments
that are going to be exciting. So the big announcement of the full roster is, yeah,
it's a way to do this going forward, and yeah, Mortal Kombat did it,
so now Strive, it's like, here's the full thing as well.
I think it's a good call.
Yeah, and Strive is like, hey, you want to see
some really rough-ass concept art
for some of these characters?
I think Tekken is still doing one by one, but.
Oh, well, Tekken doesn't give a fuck
what anybody else is doing there.
No, of course not.
But uh yeah man this is a with this season you got Queen Dizzy because of course and
uh with that you have yeah Unika uh Venom confirmed he's going to stop his or maybe
his pastry business shut down. Who the fuck knows? I hope he keeps
Robo-
And Unika looks like she's related to Sho from Ultimax.
Jesus Christ. That's a pull.
Yeah, it is.
That's a fucking pull. Sure. I'm hoping Venom has a Robo-Kai's head to talk to because they're best,
they're best bros and they forgot about that. Yeah.
The end of that story is the head of Robo-Kai and,
and venom open up their patisserie.
And then yeah, Lucy from cyberpunk edge runners
which is a that's a that is a character that aesthetically
Will fit this world
No problem. Absolutely. Also cd project red. Uh, yeah, no, they'll do guest characters in your fighting game
Sure thing they had Geralt and uh and soul caliber that's been established, right?
The thing was the interesting thing here is like, okay, so we didn't go with David.
And I think it's because like Lucy has the aesthetic as well.
And David presents issues as mechanical issues, mechanical issues.
Exactly. You know, versioning as well becomes a
Thing but I would have I would have been more hyped to see David, but I get it I think they should have put Adam Smasher into this fucking thing, but that's just me
I mean save him for Mortal Kombat perhaps. Oh god damn it. That's you're totally right, but also
I don't want to play that game. So well, you know
Yeah, yeah, so that's that's a fucking that's a pretty cool season and
It's four not five and I yeah
I think we're seeing these cut these packs of four as well if if each character needs more time to get more love and to
Be done justice, then it's okay if it's not a pack of five, you know, I'm I'm fine with that
As long as we don't get a rush drop in there. Dizzy under the Strive system is going to be interesting
because Dizzy always has a lot going on and here we're going to see it kind of simplified,
but screen pollution is fucking screen pollution. And if they continue to make the DLC characters like the strongest, most dominating versions of themselves,
Dizzy was already fucking rough. Like, holy fuck, what is this gonna be?
I think Dizzy under this new system is gonna be interesting.
I also think Dizzy under a layer of cloth is fascinating.
She's a queen. She is a queen.
It is like weird seeing that character wearing like a regular human being's clothes. I think
she looks great.
Well, she did wear a dress and they did have updated looks for her over the time in the games and stuff like going forward.
Like the initial look from when she from X like to all the way through like accent core
was the same sprite.
But then they started to add a bit more like she had like a bit of a longer skirts and
in the excerpt series and stuff.
And then there's actually her not with the the wings and tail out you know
but yeah that that's gonna be fucking huge so let's see it and I want to see
as well if like are we basically gonna get Lucy's wind pose as like the fucking
on the moon shot you know know? Probably. Yeah.
License some Franz Ferdinand just for Guilty Gear Strive.
No.
No.
That's not gonna happen.
But could you imagine?
It would present so many problems for streaming the game.
Oh my god, that would be the worst.
You couldn't do anything with it like on YouTube at all, but goddamn would it be hype.
Yeah anyways.
We talked about Kevin Ryan.
So alongside that though, they then just went, hey guys, remember SBC Chaos?
We took-
Unfortunately. Remember SVC Chaos? We took, unfortunately, we took the ROM and we swapped out the rollback
ROM emulator for the SVC Chaos. Here you go, bam, it's out. Like, there you go, you can
play it. That was a CVS game. That was there. It's back. With all its wild win quotes and
conversations because the characters talk to each other before and after the matches and it's full of nutty shit. So, okay, so they're like, yo, if you play
this game and someone says some wild shit, it was like 2K3 back then. So don't worry
about it. It's cool. All right. It's cool. Yo, shut the fuck up. It's cool. Be cool is essentially what they released with the game.
And yeah, for those who are seeing it for the first time, basically when Capcom versus SNK
was a thing that came out, Capcom made those games. They made CVS 1 and CVS 2. But the deal
was that they each got to make games with each other's characters being
borrowed.
So on the SNK side, they developed SNK Match of the Millennium, which was a portable game
for the Wonder Swan.
They made Card Fighters and Card Fighters Clash, which were the two SNK versus Capcom
kind of card Pokemon ish things where
you were like a kid walking around using, you know, your favorite character cards to
fight each other. And then they made the actual fighting game which was yet SVC chaos. It's
I remember, I can remember one thing about SVC Chaos. It was always, I always wanted to see like what the Capcom characters on SNK sprite style
would look like.
I like it.
I love the way they look.
Absolutely.
And it was really cool because for a long time in Mugen, these things existed.
There was SNK Ryu and SNK Ken were characters you could install in Mugen years ago.
People would make tons of sprite edits and stuff to see what these would look like.
And they were always pretty nice, but like they weren't done
like as well as the official ones were.
Like they looked really great seeing these characters looking like kind
of human proportions and stuff.
Thin bison kind of lie.
It's interesting to see.
But like that experiment aside, I think I remember this was like the other the main
problem was the rosters they picked.
They had some weird pulls, which I appreciate.
This is what I'm this is the one thing.
Mars people is fun.
And you got fucking you know, metal slug in there and all kinds of goofy shit here.
There's goddess Athena and Red Aramer and 30 characters are playable and 19 are Shodos.
So everyone's definition of what a Shodo is is a little broader or a little wider, but
out of 33 characters you have Kyo, Iori, Terry, Ryo, Mr. Karate, Genjuro, Ryu, Ken, Akuma,
Sagat, Geese, Sirius, Mr. Karate, Dan, Demetri,
Violet Ken, Shiki, Orochi Uri.
It's insane
Yes, yes
It's more than half the roster
It's wild
Rio and Robert
Literally they're all showdos
Oops, all showdos
Somebody in the chat says I wouldn't count Terry E or E and Q guys
You know what sure it's still straight up half the roster. Okay, so
When people say show toes in
FGC it doesn't mean someone in a ghee
Necessarily that does a sure it's like no, it's a fireball
It's a sure you can uppercut, and usually a body projectile.
A goofy kick.
A body projectile of some kind. It doesn't have to be a kick, it can be a burn knuckle, you know, whatever.
But it's a fireball, DP, and body projectile utility character.
Yeah, no, it's like the total opposite of my problems with the hunter hunter roster where it's like this is a big roster of like
The same character over and over and over and over and over it's crazy
So you know?
Terry has a rising tackle, and what is the input of a rising tackle sometimes?
It's charged, but sometimes it's sure you sometimes. It's for it's sure you input so
You know
You take take your pick depends on which game then yeah, but any which way you slice it
It's it's like half the roster. Yeah, it's insane. It's like there's no
diversity of just the the fucking
Archetype of man and like they added and you got your you got your your SNK guile with the goofy hair you got Balrog
They introduced that was the first game that gave him the smash by the way the diagonal punch, you know
You got your bison in there and the bison who's throwing dice
Right. He's throwing dice really hard in that sprite
You know and and so on but then yeah
You just every game gets its its main representatives in and it turns out that the main representatives of every game are
Ryu archetypes therefore every Ryu archetype from its own series is gonna show up
You're gonna get dark stalkers in it better be Demetri and Morrigan it is
Guess what they're both Shoto's
Fucking Jedha no
Morrigan Demetri show toe forever
Like yeah, that was the problem and I just remember that hit me when I was playing that when it came out
I was like I just fact that the secret characters have one two three four five six
Shoto's is extra nuts.
You know?
Yeah.
And look, it's like, yes, where's Felicia?
Where's Tailbane?
These are all, Talbane would be great,
but if you're picking two and it's not Morrigan or Dimitri,
then it's like, then there's that
what the fuck are you doing factor, right?
You're picking the main characters. That's what it is
If you get four then yeah throw that in there
They really fuck themselves by having like the way that the game is built. It's like here's Street Fighter one characters
Well, I mean like really like who the fuck are you gonna pick other than Ryu Ken?
Hey, remember fucking red earth wars are'd yeah, I do remember Tessa
aka Tabitha? I do. Shoto! Why not the lion guy? Fireball DP!
Hey look it's Mega Man Zero! Charge Shot! BOW! Flame, rising flame slayers!
Ridiculous. You know, so anyway. But yeah, SBC chaos is here and it's got rollback. So not on Xbox shit heads. I mean
If the emulator won't run then too fucking bad. Why don't you have SBC chaos?
That's
X-bob is getting smacked
with a pipe
Um on the plus side if you play Ryu or Ken, boy have I got a game for you!
Yeah, yeah.
If you play Ryu and Ken, and you've been afraid to pick any other character, because they're just too scary and you're not used to it,
I've got a great game you're gonna love it
SVC chaos just pick anybody guys you're gonna have a good time two out of three
shot you're gonna get someone you can play it's fucking ridiculous and yeah
they did introduce they did invent violent Ken so that was announced dude fucking Street Fighter 6 hobo Ken
should just be in the violent Ken pose with the with the big fuzzy hair yeah
fuck it it is awesome that that game screams at you no challenge ah it's
awesome that there's a stage called nude place, and everyone's
going to get to react to it again for the first time and go why the fuck is that stage
called nude place. It's also got like you're looking for your Athena like psycho ball psycho
shield psycho sword, but you end up with like goddess bik Athena, NES game actual thing. And God is a character who Akuma challenges
and Dan teaches, old man God hanging out in heaven.
Yeah, just get ready for it.
Hey man, whatever.
They said the Capcom versus SNK game is possible.
Yes, basically, whatever. They said the Capcom versus SNK game is possible. Yes. Basically, yeah. So Nakayama and Matsumoto who are, you know, saving, who have saved
Street Fighter are, with the new Marvel collection coming out and of course these things, these
friendships reestablished, they're essentially saying, yeah, these things are possible. A
new Capcom game with SNK characters is possible.
A new Marvel versus Capcom game is possible.
Things are possible.
And I suppose what's not being said there is, you know, if you would like to see these
things, a little bit of a Capcom test might be in order. I may sound very biased but considering we are talking about SVC Chaos I would
like it if Capcom made the CVS 3 rather than we got the SVC Chaos 2. I would
also like to see that and hope that they do that. I'm sure the deal would could be similar where it's like,
hey, you get to use our characters for a game
and vice versa.
But I will say that the problem with the current age
is that games are platforms.
And for the same reason that Tekken Street Fighter really
never had a window of opportunity,
you have to interrupt your season of current games
to put the versus game out.
Marvel interrupts by being a completely different style
and offers a completely different thing, you know?
But a more traditional SNK crossover,
it's like both games and both companies
probably would feel they benefited more from guests as opposed to the full
crossover game because it's either wait until the current game stuff is winding
down or they're ramping up for the you know but they're not too far in it's
like the injustice to Mortal Kombat problem.
Or you just give each other a couple of guests and you promote yourselves that way.
But Tekken is in the middle of its flow.
Street Fighter is in the middle of its flow.
Why would either of them want to compete with themselves on a second thing that
people might not want to go by, you know?
You know, I had the most disgusting thought possible that would never happen, but it's fun to think about.
Of CVS3 is coming out, it's here,
and Capcom and SNK have split the cost, right?
Not necessarily the manpower, but the cost.
And they're gonna split the money,
just straight up down the middle,
based on character pick day character usage. Oh
Man everybody in CVS 3 is playing nothing but SNK characters guess SNK gets every dime
You think the fucking all Shoto's problem is the worst it gets now
Oh, yeah. Oh my god at that.
Say goodbye to any interesting pick ever.
Literally just metric data.
AI will tell you the roster.
Go ask chat GPT who the most popular Capcom characters are.
Those are the characters getting into the game.
Nothing fun. End of story.
That would be insane. Fuck that story That would be insane fuck that
So good, and then you just know like yeah, the new patch is made Terry and Kyo just total dog shit
It's weird again like worse characters of the game
I think I think their deal
You know being just like you get to borrow ours and do whatever you want as long as it doesn't
Destroy the brand and we'll be okay
with it and then vice versa is like the simplest way to just not have each other co-developing and
yeah i mean you're right but like you know like the idea of capcom making like mr karate bad on
purpose so that they don't nerf have financial fucking ramifications dude every buff and every nerf
Oh
Anyway, um, yeah, I just I just don't think that's gonna be a thing as much anymore and I see guest seasons
Potentially being possible. You know, I mean the joke going back was like hey Akuma shows up in Tekken
Hey, we look at a bunch of
Virtua Fighter showing up in DOA, you know and so on like guest seasons as a potential thing
doesn't interrupt the
the you know the the game's lifecycle as much as a
Diversion of attention does I think that as much as I fucking hate Negan, the fucking walking dead dude, I think that
was the moment that every fighting game gets to be Smash Brothers.
Which is like, oh, we can do anything now.
I mean, we can get anime fucking Polish anime characters in our shit.
We can get Akuma over in Tekken, like oh, fucking whatever.
I mean, Cloud and Smash is also like, it's like, because I feel like before there was like,
there's some tangible Nintendo connection, right?
Yeah.
And then Cloud and Smash is like, nah, bitch, popularity.
There's this explicit
anti Nintendo connection
You know what I mean like that was the that was the actual floodgate like Bayo was still cutting of Nintendo You know money there like this is a full-on like we don't care. It's just based on who you love
And then yeah cap that off with fucking Sora and shit, so I
And then yeah cap that off with fucking Sora and shit. So I
We see these guest characters coming in and I'm just like, okay as long as it fits the world Right as long as bikin gets into samurai showdown and not soul bad guy
I like just just just make it make it work make it work as best you can so
Soul bad guy should go live in Street Fighter if anything. Yeah
So bad guys should go live in Street Fighter if anything. Yeah.
You have to put a Guilty Gear character in Street Fighter.
Go pick one.
It had it had.
I mean it could be Axel because that's his era.
You know what I mean?
He's from the past.
You know, just, but, eh.
Anyway, whatever, everything is portals, so you can just do whatever you want.
The, Geo does play the most like a Street Fighter character.
You know, there's that, but, anyways.
The other weird thing, and they just kind of let out
that they're like, hey, so we're doing City of the Wolves, Fatal Fury. the other weird thing and they just kind of let out
that they're like, hey, so we're doing City of the Wolves, Fatal Fury.
We're doing these new Vice and Mature.
We're also working on a Samurai Showdown action RPG.
And a new art of fighting game.
Oh, that's great. People like art of... no, no, actually.
That's not true, don't lie. I was about to say people like art of fighting, and I'm like
no, that shit's 30 years old. Nobody knows what the fuck art of fighting even is.
Art of fighting is the prequel series to Fatal Fury and KOF
that takes place in the 80s and 70s, and people do not
like art of fighting.
People like Rio and Robert.
And King.
And Yuri.
Yes.
But the idea of bringing one back is nuts.
Because it's also like, you know,
the differences between KOF and Gairo
are like more subtle but still pronounced.
I like Yamazaki.
The difference, yeah, certainly. And the differences between Sam Show and those games is like more subtle but still pronounced. I like Yamazaki. The difference, yeah, certainly.
And the differences between Sam Show and those games
is much more pronounced.
But AOF is, it's a slow 1v1 fighter
with some weird shit like the taut system
to build up your meter and, you know,
getting tired and like not being able to do all your moves
or weaker versions of them
And all of that shit was very odd. It always played very very strangely, but it did have young geese Howard in it
Yeah, that's true. It did it did
so
Can we just have geese Howard be like a perennial character unlike most game rosters because I think geese Howard's cool
So nightmare young Geese then.
Yeah.
For some reason.
Sure.
I would, I, I, it would be, I, I would like to see them bring it, if they're bringing
it back, I'd like to see it have its own really unique approach and like do lean into the
weird shit I guess because Garou is the more traditional thing and that's been established
and Sam's show went nuts and that was a lot of fun.
And also lean into the whole like this is taking place in the 70s and 80s bit.
That would be very fun as well to have everything be particularly old and retro ass with its
aesthetic.
So we'll see where that goes and
Yeah, I mean that that's pretty much there
You know what the the stuff they dropped at Evo there's things people already knew about certainly like the the uni character and everything
but
That was the beef of it
As I was not a single Virtua Fighter crumb to be had
Was one was one expected was a bird?
Hopping around looking expecting a crumb. I would have accepted a crumb
Was Sega even there no
There was no Sega booth, dude
Food Oh food Oh might have been at the event somewhere. Oh he would know. That's
all I can... It's like the most tangential fucking... You! Answer me! Why? It's like
I'm just good at it man. I don't... Well hey, multiverses fans good news
Just spit all of
Attention yeah a touch in multi nutters
You know what the worst part is Wully is that my fucking the spit take was on the word fan. Mm-hmm
So player first has been purchased by Warner Brothers
Very unexpected move here
Yeah, so I'm like, I know what I know what's up with that move. Well, I have thoughts as well
So player first develops multiverses multiverses is we saw the the state it was in
Recently after the game went away and came
back and was worse for wear.
Everything had to migrate and it suffered as a result.
And now they're announcing new stuff and people are not really paying attention and it sucks
because they actually had a shot at being like, you know, an interesting Smash clone
style second platform fighter, 2v2 and all that stuff. I had fun with it at
first. But yeah, unfortunately, it's just it's rough. Warner
Brothers has acquired the company. And when you have a
company that you're paying as a you know, outside support that's
developing your thing second party or so. Usually, an acquisition is like, hey, we like what you did, this is great, and this is an
investment in what you're going to make in the future, and we're going to believe in
and trust you to make more of whatever it is we bought you for.
Of course, there's EA over the years that we have to look at, and that's a different
kind of acquisition,
you know, and Nintendo. But I'm wondering if it's like we buy them while we are slashing
and burning everything else because Warner Brothers is absolutely fucking just the the
site is red. Rooster Teeth being one of those victims, of course, just killing everything off. And
is the thought here, okay, we buy them. So we have it. We're not just paying out to
a third party, but we're we pay in house and this is got cost up front. And on a dime,
if we look at the numbers and go not shut the whole thing down, we just take the staff and
dissolve it into our other studios.
The way it has gone in the EA and Activ Blizzard context.
Do you remember over a year ago when WB started to slash and burn things?
People were like, oh no, multiverses just came out.
What's going to happen to multiverses?
Do you remember the statement from the development studio?
The one where they were like, hey guys, thanks for playing the open beta and
Everyone I know that wasn't a big day
The the I think was the director like responded directly to are you guys gonna get slash and burned to which he responded?
Well, we're an independent company and our contract states that multiverses has X amount of life and
yada yada yada so you don't have anything to worry about with us getting slashed and burned
You beat the contract
Well we don't have to have one because it's it's we own it all now.
It's cheaper to buy out the contract than to honor it.
Yeah, and then they're gonna then they're gonna fire them.
And then they're gonna kill multiverses.
And once it's what its current run of shit is done, and they're gonna reintegrate the
people they want into the positions they want that because, because I'm like there's no way a company in the middle of like tossing barrels overboard
is going to be like making these big acquisitions and going like, yeah, we're looking forward
to great things to come ahead for like, what are you talking about?
You're on fire.
Your boat is trying to lighten its load.
What do you, you know, so yeah, that, there you go.
The thought.
Yeah, no, they couldn't break their contract,
but they could buy it out and then kill them afterwards.
Okay, so they're on, that's way more plausible,
because it takes what I already said of like,
yeah, you keep all the employees and the talent
and redistribute them elsewhere,
and work that internally,
but like the process of this game getting an extended like life cycle or anything like that is just fucking absolutely not happening.
I mean shit, if like you're buying the company that last week the news story was Riot cancelled their Smash game because of looking at how-
Sure you see that shit? That shit's ass, let's burn our shit down.
It makes zero sense.
So, yeah, okay, there we go.
That's the B side here.
That's the lean berry.
It's like, hey mom, your dog really smells.
I really wish you'd get rid of that dog.
No, it's my dog.
Hey, what if I adopted your dog, mom,
and I'd take care of it for the 10 minutes
it takes me to take it to the pound.
Psycho behavior.
But what about the, I guess whatever,
whatever contractual sign thing, yeah, anyway.
Nobody, they can't get fucking sued for breach of contract.
You know what, in this analogy, it would be like,
mom, I promise I would never get rid of your dog
Yeah, what happened to the dog? What was my dog? My dog is my dog
I can do whatever the fuck I want with my dog mom there you go. Yeah
WB is fucking worst. Oh my god
Oh my god
Whatever is happening has to make financial sense and that type of
True okay While they're losing money and destroying everything because they're panicking a
Big spend doesn't make sense until it's like, what's the actual
angle here?
How does this become a money saving thing?
Oh, because the lawsuit we'd be in after we breached contract for this is what they were
promised or whatever would be infinitely worse, so fine.
Anyway, beyond that, I guess, I don't know, it seems there's a cyber truck in Fortnite.
Oh man, this is actually really funny.
I can only imagine that internally there must have been a couple meetings and email threads
to be like, hey, can we talk shit about this on our own accounts?
No, no, no you cannot. Okay, what if we say this is just my opinion and mine
exclusively? So I think it's really funny. Every single thing I've seen about the
Cybertruck and Fortnite has been, so we all agree it's on site, right? On site, yeah,
yeah, yeah. But also, so all you have to do to get the Cybertruck
is do some basic quests that are in the game already.
So like, the system is built over the next couple of weeks
that most normal players will naturally acquire
the Cybertruck.
Ah. And I've seen people going, I am literally going players will naturally acquire the cyber truck.
And I've seen people going,
I am literally going to stop playing Fortnite for two weeks
to not get the cyber truck.
Man. This is, this is,
this has done irreparable damage for weirdos like me who want a world where weird
polygon PlayStation vehicles can exist.
Oh yeah, no, it's done now.
The earth is salted.
Because I unironically love that weird looking shit.
My problem with cars for a long time has been how boring they are.
I hate that their color palette is so limited.
I hate that they all have to relatively look like the same thing for the decade that they're from.
I think the color palette thing is super awful. I think that cars should be more than black
and gray.
I hate that when you go to certain countries, all cars are only white.
I did find out something pretty interesting, which is BC specific.
I was talking to somebody and they mentioned that certain colors of car are very unpopular
in BC.
A lot of blues and greens because it can make your car invisible on a bunch of the roads.
Huh.
Whoa.
Okay. Because there's lots of coasts and there's of the roads. Huh. Whoa.
Okay.
Because there's lots of coasts and there's lots of forests and lots of winding turns
on the Rockies that it can make your car invisible coming around corners.
Hmm.
That's real.
Yeah.
Fair enough.
And then there's weird shit like, hey, red car is higher insurance because the people
who buy them are crazier and get into more accidents.
Well, you know why that is right? You know,
because red cars go fast. Red cars do go faster. It's true.
They they go faster but no anyway, all this is just a
long-winded way to say that I feel like vehicles are stuck
within a very tight overton window and from the 70s, you
see the style. You see the 80s style 90s style and like that tight
over tin window limits the shape of the front the shape of the back and the and the color range you
can use and you can always kind of customize and go nuts but for the most part what's on the market
is going to have a certain thing to it and then each company has their own style as well they're
offering that's like yeah this is what the Ford things look like and what Jeep looks like and Hondas are doing that but I was like I want wow you know
it'd be fun to have more unique designs and fun creates shit so yeah anyway this just hurts that
this damages that style of thing I think the the the goofiness of not understanding a historical
anachronism with the Cybertruck is like really fascinating because Cybertruck's
based off of the DeLorean because it was Back to the Future and the DeLorean's like silver
and boxy but like most people don't know this because we weren't adults in the 80s but the
reason why the time machine in Back to the Future is a DeLorean is because the DeLorean's
a fucking piece of shit and the fact that your time machines in this junker fucking pile of garbage is goofy as
fuck.
Yeah, and so nowadays, whatever I see, even seeing new electric vehicles on the road sometimes
and being like, well, what is that?
I'm not used to seeing even whatever that is.
It's just different.
It's interesting. Sometimes it doesn't look great.
And yeah, hey, Wooly wants the Homer,
it's all about aerodynamics, et cetera.
I'm not saying these things-
Bro, I would rather see the Homer driving down the street
than the Cybertruck.
Like, I'm not saying the things they do
should have worse aerodynamics, nor am I saying
they should be fucking insane garish sticker based
info warrior rides.
It's just the tightness of what we have is so, so limited.
And I'm sure that you could do things that don't lose drag and aerodynamic efficiency
that still can have a bit more color range and have a couple more interesting
elements to the way they're done.
You are talking to a car culture that loves the style of pickup truck that I can only
describe as the child annihilator.
Sure, sure.
The one that has the fucking cab fucking five and a half feet off the ground so that you
could never ever ever ever see a kid run out in front of you something that
has a truck bed so high you would never ever be able to use it for hauling freight
but it's cool and it's big in my truck my big penis but it's like it's like hey
I think there should be more range to what we have with the limit of the market right now equals wooly wants death rides for every but like what the
fuck if that's your take if your take is yes I'm asking you for the fucking I'm
looking for Calypso's vehicle fuck yeah dude that rules let's do it. You know? Holy shit man I'm just
saying we have like eight colors and the shit and like it's like whatever the
difference is between um anyway whatever civics have changed slightly over time
things have changed slightly over time and I think the state of civics is actually
one of the worst
Places it's ever been in this country
But the difference between an old like a civic that has this type of thing that was considered aerodynamic at the time and the one
That we have now there's aesthetic choices. They're making that are not affecting those things
time and the one that we have now, there's aesthetic choices they're making that are not affecting those things. So don't be fucking, don't be a shit and act as if every single
change you make is one based on extreme efficiency or nothing at all. There's more we can do,
you know? Anyway, if I was, I'm sure there's an element to this too.
Listen, this sounds-
If you're into the fucking, yeah.
If you're-
Willy, this sounds like the argument-
Yes. of a man
Who's not worried about hitting a fucking horse on his motorcycle?
Yeah, yeah, I get out of here we read me an email all right
Fucking scrolling through Gran Turismo
Yawning. Oh man. That's always the... Yawning. Wow, it's got 400 cars
and 390 of them are the same, I guess. I don't know. Fuck. I don't need the blue falcon and
wipeout, but holy shit, man. Anyway. Oh yeah, Bethesda unionized, by the way. Sick. Full-on
union. And you know what that says to me? They were well aware that
they were going to get laid off next. And they beat Microsoft to the fucking punch.
Let's see what happens. All right, here we got one coming in. No name. Hello, Evo and
backlog. I was talking to a friend about bad jobs we've had and one
he mentioned was during a rough period at a company. They needed extra time on a big project,
but they couldn't pay people for it. They sold this to the employees not as unpaid overtime,
but as ghost hours. Okay. I shudder to think of the meeting where they brainstormed cool names for exploitative business practices.
What are your favorite euphemisms?
Or darkest euphemisms you've heard?
I mean, the one I invented, mini buys.
Mini buys is pretty great.
It's my favorite, quite frankly.
It's pretty fantastic.
Don't worry about them.
We just got mini buys in our game.
Fuck off.
I have nothing for this.
Okay.
I can't think. I'm not good with euphemisms. I just get all upset and swear at something.
Digital lockers.
I mean, that's not that's not a euphemism. That was like a Ken thought that was gonna be a real thing.
Fucking crazy Ken. Shit, what was it?
What do you put in the digital locker again?
You put in your fucking DLC and it like ages or some shit?
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
the, the, the, the giant bomb bit where they just took like
eight other euphemism words and put them all into the same
sentence.
Oh man, you're asking me podcast goose from 12 years ago.
You have to take your, and you put it in your digital locker, right?
And then you've they just they had like a full sentence of it and then you mind share
All right share oh, you know what I
Don't have any personal experience with this
But I have been made aware of something that some
people in our audience might be having to actually deal with as a real term.
Hey, Willie, how long does it take for you to put this podcast up once we finish it?
How long do you think that job would be?
A couple hours, honestly.
Could you rephrase that in the terms of story points?
What? Could you rephrase that in the terms of story points?
What?
Okay, so imagine that the podcast was a t-shirt.
Would it be like a regular t-shirt, like a medium t-shirt or like an extra large t-shirt?
How does that describe the process of editing a podcast? As you can
see there are people in the chat having anxiety attacks right now over this
because this is a real fucking thing that people in dev have to fucking deal
with because no one wants to hear ours they want some fucking weird jerk-off
fantasy version of a timeline that they won't be held to.
I think it's called Scrum?
Oh, Scrum! Oh, yeah, yeah. Okay, well that's old now.
But yes, okay, no, Scrum was a huge business practice thing that was introduced over ten years ago.
This was, or yeah, this was mid-aughts.
Oh, it's still around, brother.
For sure, for sure.
But there was people that were touring businesses
and doing workshops teaching them how to implement Scrum.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, okay, all right, sure, sure, man.
And you know, these waves come and they go.
It reminds me of like, almost like church.
Like a pastor will come to town and pitch a new type of thing for the business
and you'd be like, oh, if we keep this philosophy in mind, we'll be infinitely more efficient
and then this is how we're going to stack and get on our grind and turn it all around.
And I swear to God, like at some point, everyone gives a shot at like becoming a Trello based
business internally where they were like,
we're going to put everything up on Trello cards and no one fucking uses it and they just sit there
and rot and people who are meant to walk over and tell someone to something, they put it up on a
Trello card that never got seen and then everything fucking falls apart. But by that point, they've
already bought an enterprise license for like half a billion dollars. Like these businesses go
through these stupid things all the time and the person who doesn't know what the fuck
they're doing falls for all of them a hundred percent we got we got to keep it
agile yeah we're gonna fall behind now tell me how many fucking T-shirt size is this podcast is. Dude, you can walk into a room with all those words
and land a producer role with no CV,
just speaking that language.
I promise you, diagonal jumps from here, way up there,
and now you're on the production side,
and all you did was
master the nomenclature. It's infuriating.
And then it's a fucking nightmare.
And the most important part is once you get the job, walk around every morning,
what's your coffee, check in and see what everyone's up to compile all that
information and report it back as if you did those things.
Yeah. And you know what those things are,
and you're on top of those changes.
My team only did this because I told them to do it.
That's the only reason it happened.
It's very important.
Holy fuck, I'm, oh!
Yeah!
Oh, that's all damage.
All right, goodbye.
Have a good week everybody.
["Soul Dive"]