Castle Super Beast - CSB 280: Blizzard Distracts From Massive Layoffs By Revealing That You The Player Are Gay

Episode Date: August 6, 2024

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Starting point is 00:00:00 ["Sailor Moon Theme"] How'd it do? Hey, gold jacket. In the corner of the frame. Thank you. Cool. Yeah. I don't recognize that from last time. Is that new? Uh, yeah, it's been sitting there for a couple weeks now, actually. Oh, I'm blind as shit. Well, fuck me, then. Pfft.
Starting point is 00:00:56 Keep the faith. Um... Yeah. What's up with you, man? How you doing, wolves? Uh, not too bad. It is getting a bit, a bit rainy out here, but I did manage to get some outdoor activity this weekend. So, yeah, another one chalked up to the old man wooly list here. But I went outside and played a game of petonque.
Starting point is 00:01:38 You familiar with petonque? Do you remember? I feel like I should remember, but it's not clicking in my brain right now. Do you remember what Gaston and the old... Are you playing fucking like marbles with old men on the sidewall? The game that the old men were playing in Disco Elysium. So I went and I played that for real because that's a thing that they do in France and in Quebec. It is a French game of old men throwing balls around, steel balls. It's very, it's very good. Yeah, so that one was, I got, I got goaded into it because, so cool dude I've
Starting point is 00:02:21 met, Command Grab James is his name. And he I met him. That's a great goddamn nickname. Yeah, he's a cool dude. I met him at a UMAD event and he is like, I just met him from like FGC stuff and then something and then in versus wolves, I had to go do some Brazilian jujitsu challenge and he kind of showed me some Brazilian jujitsu and from hanging out with him there I then showed him. I'm sorry command grab James went to Brazilian jujitsu with you because he because he his
Starting point is 00:02:57 name comes from the fact that he does real command grabs exactly and so yeah he absolutely right as he sees okay he's got striking stand-up experience. He plays Steve Fox. I'm like, oh yeah, okay, you're literally living that life, right? And so at the next UMAD event, I was like, okay, yeah, we're going to sit your ass down. Let's play some Croconole, right? That's the game with the finger, like knocking the things I was talking about. And so, you know, one old man game deserves another. So he's like, oh, you're into that shit? Okay, cool. I got some friends that play petanque. You got to come play some. So yeah, you know, after a thorough introduction to Croconole, it was his turn to show me some Petanque.
Starting point is 00:03:46 So we went out to the water in the Verdun area, you know, like the business and parks around there. Oh, I'm very familiar. Yeah, yeah. So there's the whole beachfront water area, canal, et cetera. And something I've always seen but I've ignored for most of my life has been those boxes of gravel that have been in the parks, you know? And you kind of see them and it's almost like bocce ball like courts, you know, in a way. But specifically, these
Starting point is 00:04:18 are for this game, Patanque, that it is a French thing. So, it turns out that, yeah, this is a fun ass game. There's a reason why those old men play it and spend their days doing that. And so they don't have to go home to their terrible lives. Or reminisce about the old cocaine king, you know, and the communism that almost was. But the way it works basically is, yeah, so again, similar to bocce ball if you've seen it, you have these steel balls, you have like three each, and then you kind of are tossing them.
Starting point is 00:05:04 But you take a small little like rubber ball, you throw that anywhere between six to ten meters away from you on like this little like gravel box, you know, in the park. And then from where you're standing you each take turns trying to, without moving your feet and trying to keep your body as except for your arm still as possible. You kind of underhand toss the steel ball so that it lands as close as possible to the original little rubber one you tossed. And you can, whoever gets the ball closest by the end of all your turns gets the point and you can do things like drop the ball
Starting point is 00:05:48 in to play where mine is closest so it's like curling ish you know to the closest I was about to say is this curling it's just another game that is pretending to not be curling there's a lot of games that are pretending to not be curling but I don't know which came first but like curling probably came last right cuz ice but like crock-a-nol is a is a curling like thing and you know but as is bocce as is this and then even I'm shuffleboard right shuffleboard is a medium in between you know I want to point out that when you were staying that you were gonna go play something I almost blurted out is this motherfucker about to tell me that he's out there playing shuffleboard? So I played shuffleboard
Starting point is 00:06:30 at combo con in in Michigan and like yeah that was pretty fun and that's a nice in between sized you know like wrist kind of perfecting the move the motion kind of game. But I think these are all the same kind of goal, the same kind of fun thing, which is just try to perfect a rote mechanic with your arm. And like, listen, can you play horseshoes? Yes, you can play all of these. Yeah. yeah and like yes yeah look as yeah cornhole horseshoes darts right stand in spot and get the right get the right did you say cornhole yeah is that actually
Starting point is 00:07:17 the name of a game cornhole is in fact the name of the game have you never heard the term cornhole no I have I've heard the term cornhole have you never heard of cornhole as the for the game that it is have you ever know you've never tossed a bean bag in a hole oh we just called that bean bag it's's not called beanbag. It's called cornhole That literally means asshole Yeah, and I think and the term and the reason why people's call your asshole your cornhole is because of the game It's named after it was because corn can go in there like an aqua teen No, All right.
Starting point is 00:08:05 Okay. Well, anyways, it's, it's, I know that cornhole is particular to certain areas as well. It's a very Ontario thing. Certain Northern states as well, I believe. Et cetera. It might be a regional bit, but it's definitely the name of the game that you toss the beanbag into the hole on the wooden board. So, yes. I don't know what to... I can't believe you. I'm just surprised.
Starting point is 00:08:39 Okay, well, yes. So any and all of these games fit into this this archetype. And yeah, PathoNK is really cool. It's one of those. And then you get to show off your kind of cool shiny steel balls. You know, you get to hold them like Giro Zappelli and pretend you're you're doing one of the things from Jojo part seven. But what's cool about what I like is whenever there's a moment in one of these games or you're like, okay, I see the basic thing, but like, what's the what's the next step? What's the high level shit? And it's like, okay, so, you know, there's all these terms, and I forget what they were, but there's a lot of like French terms for things you can do. But like, if you toss the ball and get it as close as possible to the point that it's touching the reference ball, like the little rubber
Starting point is 00:09:27 one, it's called a kiss, you know, and in a lot of cases, that's that's as close as you can get. Because if you have two balls that are close, and you're not sure whose is like the closest, then who's going to get the point? That's when you pull out the measuring tape. And so motherfuckers are walking out with the measuring tape and like Holding it and like straight up doing Calculating the angles and going you're serious right now. We can't be eyeballing Apparently that's what it always comes down to that and it like when you look at it You're like you're eyeballing and you're like, yeah, you'd think that you could just go like that one's closer
Starting point is 00:10:02 But then they you pull it out and go actually no that is a half an inch off or that's a couple millimeters off even Right, so they're pulling out the measuring tape and getting serious with it And so yeah, you met so like you can play on turn teams. So, you know when there was two teams of two and Yeah, punch mom came out and we and played as well and so as everyone tosses all their shots out, you kind of end up with a field of 12 balls all attempting to land around this goal, you know?
Starting point is 00:10:36 But one of the moves you can do is you can toss your ball to hit one of your opponents further away. So reposition like a curling again. But unlike curling, you can toss and hit the center ball and reposition the entire game by moving that somewhere else on the court. So in curling, the closer you are to the center, the more points you're getting.
Starting point is 00:11:04 Imagine if you could hit the center Closer to where your other pieces are and now the whole score has changed and like the this feels Yeah, like a star and dip it as rule change a million years ago where somebody did it and they went fuck it that it's crazy He playing yeah I know but that adds a whole lot of strategy because when you're coming up like last, you have the choice to be like, I'm gonna either try to land as close as possible, but if the ball that you just toss is closer,
Starting point is 00:11:32 then I can possibly really reliably hit it. I can aim for hitting you or I can aim to hit the target and make the target move to my team's side, you know? And like all of those different strategies are like viable at the same time. So immediately this game became side, you know, and like all of those different strategies are like viable at the same time. So immediately this game became like, oh shit, like you're tossing the steel ball, but there's a lot to consider in how you play and where to toss and, you know, beyond just getting the wrist motion correct, you know, you kind of learn to toss
Starting point is 00:12:01 it the way you kind of learn to bowl, you it takes takes a couple tries before you're like I tend to curve to the left or whatever the case is but Changing your actual target for different strategic purposes. That's the shit. That's a lot of fun Yeah, so the you know the guy I teamed with was you know, the guy I teamed with was really good at sniping, you know, the opponents, but like, like particular ball out of position. And like, I was like, getting all right at kind of softly rolling it up to the to the ball. And then, punch bomb and command grab James on the on the other team were, you know,
Starting point is 00:12:41 doing their best to play defensively and stuff. So there's a lot of there's a lot of some attempts where you can be like, you know what, fuck best to play defensively and stuff. So there's a lot of, there's a lot, there's some attempts where you can be like, you know what, fuck it. I don't believe in my accuracy right now. It's too crowded and I don't want to hit my points further away. I'm going to just toss it really weak and have it slowly roll up, you know? And if you can get it a little bit shy of the, the front position, that's a defensive play, you know? So anyway, but talk is pretty fun
Starting point is 00:13:08 I Yeah, and then it started raining unfortunately, so you know we had to call the game Before we could really get get all the way up because you play till 13 But you know it makes it makes sense And the funny thing too is like as we were going up to play on one of the smaller like bocce courts, the friend pulled up and was like, yo, actually I know a better place to play. Let's go over there.
Starting point is 00:13:35 So we like rolled out and there was like three different courts within about 20 minutes or so of each other. And one was like a smaller side near like a pool. Another one was closer in a forest. And then there's one that was right in front of an old folks home. So like, there's legit levels, you know, and you're like, oh, if we want to go and like challenge some of the old men, some of the seniors, we can play on the court right outside the old folks' home. You know? And yeah, you can just, you can lay claim
Starting point is 00:14:10 wherever you want to and then, you know, see what's up. See what's up. And I bet you, you know, they'll teach you a thing or two about the way it's fucking done. They've been doing this shit for the last 60 years. So yeah. I feel like we're a couple weeks away, maybe months, from you coming onto the podcast and telling me that you learned how to play bridge.
Starting point is 00:14:36 I mean, and then you just time lapse age into like a skeleton on the spot. Because in my mind, bridge is the oldest person's game I think so I would say so um but it's just cards though you know there's something fun about these games of like mechanical precision I look I enjoy them you know I've always like thought darts was cool with the reason why I always thought that all the card games are the oldest is because you can play those card games with with no legs and Two fingers, you know, okay, you can when you're proper aged But you know, yes, and then I'll hit up the bingo hall next exactly
Starting point is 00:15:26 But, you know, yes, and then I'll hit up the bingo hall next, exactly. But really, it's just you get into one and someone goes, oh, you like this shit? We'll check this other shit out. And guess what? There's like 40 different flavors of these not-curlings. And there's a whole lot of young people playing old man games and getting into them ahead of time. So, yeah, I'm down. And it feels like the type of thing too where if you've got a little bit of space in a backyard
Starting point is 00:15:52 or somewhere around you, it's a nice thing to do outside too as well. So how far do you need? You said six to 10 meters earlier. The box they make is a box that's like, I don't know, probably like 12 by 12. You know, it's not huge. It's just like a little chunk of the park that's there. And it's like a sandbox, you know, when you see like a kid's like kind of sandbox type of thing.
Starting point is 00:16:18 It's one of those. And yeah, like it's something to do where you're like if you feel like I if you're like I want to go outside I don't feel like barbecuing or like setting up a Full like picnic thing, but you're kind of just like I feel like doing an outdoor activity today, you know That's the perfect thing. You just grab a couple of your your your petonk balls Go sit out there And and take it at a leisurely pace. It's that kind of day.
Starting point is 00:16:46 So yeah, yeah, getting into that. We'll see how it goes. I have not yet committed to any purchases of balls and stuff, but I did see that they brought their own and they're showing them off. They're like, ooh, I got a new set that's got the little, the double indents. There's different weights. There's a weight range for the precise, you know, like feeling that you want to get. And it's crazy, but like the actual, like some of the steel balls actually are engraved like the steel balls in JoJo, like the steel ball run ones. They really have the exact kind of, you know, indenture,
Starting point is 00:17:26 engraved parts and things like that. So yeah. Ben Knoll That is crazy that the guys making the steel balls would have gone and looked up this JoJo thing so they could engrave it the same way. Ben Knoll Right? Isn't it nuts that that's bananas? You'd think that'd be kind of obscure. Ben Knoll I mean, Araki really is out here inspiring everything and everyone, you know? But yeah, I think you kind of just see them, the characters in Disco, standing around with the balls in the court there. But you know, the actual game and how it's played is, it's a fun Sunday.
Starting point is 00:18:01 It's a fun activity, you know? And look, man, kites are cool, but you'll never be guaranteed a good wind day. So, you know, just like today, just like yesterday, you're not guaranteed a good sunny day. Yeah, we had a day the other week where I was like, it's not even hot. Why does it feel so hot? It's like, oh, because the wind is done today. Totally dead air. And I actually thought to myself, oh, it'd be really hard for Woolly to fly Kite. You know, I'm checking the app, you know, if it's, yeah, if the numbers are too low,
Starting point is 00:18:35 then you can't really do much with it. You know, not every day is like dystopian about that or it's like I have to look at my magic rectangle of if the rectangle tells me I can go play with my toys or not. I mean, realistically, you can get out to the spate. You can go drive there and be like, oh, it's not windy enough and go back home. And the problem is, I've had too many days of being like, it looks okay. And then I get there. Not okay.
Starting point is 00:19:01 And it sucks. And I'm like, well, that was a waste. And I've done that at least three or four times now where like it's like, well, that, you know, like at least it's like, okay, well, let's go do something else. But the effort of like getting out there to go do it and then realizing that you can't suck. So I'm just like, let's rely on the wind app to save a trip of nothing. Well, that's when you just give up and just get drunk in the park Yeah, there's always that and play with your kites like they're action figures. Yeah
Starting point is 00:19:28 or or you can you can You know some of the best spaces for playing are always taken up by Cricket because the cricket players they just put the cones down that take up because the cricket players, they just put the cones down that take up 50 to 70% of the park space. It's kind of obscene. Like imagine a baseball field, but like you're creating that, you're putting the barriers up out of a park space that we all have to share.
Starting point is 00:19:59 Decided that we're going to create a full-scale baseball field here. What? It sucks. I Really don't get out of the field. No like take your turn or whatever the case is, but it's like no we are permanently Gonna show up and and claim most of it and basically You're seeing the people playing cricket and then the balls never going that far out anyways it's like the actual action with the wicket and the bowler and the pitch and all that are happening and like 10% of the space that's been locked off and
Starting point is 00:20:32 And then you have all the other people that are outside trying to enjoy the park crammed into the remaining 40% It's really not cool. You seem to be all up-to-date on all these Non like It's really not cool. You seem to be all up-to-date on all these Non like common outdoor games is cricket not just like Weird stupid British baseball Yeah, but it got exported to all the Colonies so it got exported to India and it got exported to the Caribbean.
Starting point is 00:21:06 So we played it in Grenada. Same basic idea, right? Is toss ball the thing? Toss ball in a different way. Hit ball with a different type of bat and basically touch base, but it's only one. And pitcher has to try to hit thing is where catcher would be.
Starting point is 00:21:30 Do the pitchers have the ability, do they throw the rock or whatever they got? I bet it's a ball. They bowl. Hard enough that their elbows explode off their goddamn body. Oh yeah, they do. And I can't tell you a whole lot about cricket
Starting point is 00:21:50 because I don't fully really remember much of that shit, but what I do know is you overhand with the most aggressive windup you've seen. So the way pitchers in baseball have to disconnect their shoulders and elbows almost, pitchers have, in baseball, have to like, yeah, disconnect their shoulders and elbows almost, like when you watch it in cricket, they have to go like way over their heads and then downward, you know?
Starting point is 00:22:13 So it's this crazy downward angle that like, like instead of going to the side and snapping the way like an MLB player does, it's like violently ripping your shoulder above and then coming downward. It really does look like you're going to disconnect your arm every time. That's great. Yeah. Yeah. You know, and then you and then you're trying to get it low and then exactly they they bounce and then you get that kind of upward butt swing thing. But it's all the same basic premise.
Starting point is 00:22:46 Yeah. Um, taking up way more space than it fucking needs to. And and, uh, wow, that cricket pitch looks taking weird. Holy shit. It also takes a very long time. And it's also there's a whole lot of downtime and a whole lot of people standing around doing nothing. And it's just like, why did all the British sports have to look fucking goofy and stupid? I?
Starting point is 00:23:08 Mean, I think it's more just at this point. It's it's international right we're talking it like it's no I mean in Genesis Look at these cricket pitches, and this guy looks British as shit even if he's not from England He's got his legs and arms flailing. Oh my god that the is is polo a British sport that they invent that cuz I don't think they did okay I think I think cuz it's like from a like a horse culture cuz hockey on horses is fucking crazy like that's that's wild shit I always thought that was I thought that was soccer on horses yeah Yeah, or lacrosse on horses. One of those things, you know. So, yeah.
Starting point is 00:23:50 Anyway, all this to say that a kite space and park and picnic space is at a premium when whenever cricket is about and yeah, those though they they they're they're being greedy they're being greedy taking up all the room but regardless yeah that's about their stuff so petonka is fun that's cool okay besides that so last time I believe you got a little bit of the alpha for Marvel Rivals. I did. Yes.
Starting point is 00:24:27 I liked it. It was still very alpha, but it had some cool stuff. So I didn't get to try that two months ago, but I did get to try this current beta out. I love it. It's great. It's really fun. And it's a most impressive thing is all the characters different movements.
Starting point is 00:24:49 It's super polished. I think a lot of people are going to have a moment in a period of time, in a short period of time when they get their hands on it and go, oh fuck, this is a really fun game. Like I think right now you're kind of seeing the art style, which is not pretending to not be Overwatch. The fonts are the same, the sounds are the same, Galacta is talking to you the same way
Starting point is 00:25:18 I think it's Athena talks to you or so. It's all there, but all that, it works and it's the game is very, very fun. And I think that like, it's going to be huge. It's good. I think that the game will be huge based on one factor. Because we're in that we're in that period of like, I played the alpha you played the beta, and we came away very positive. It's got characters everybody likes it runs really well Everything's great. Everything's super great And then we're gonna have to wait until the day comes out to find out So how are they planning to make money off of this?
Starting point is 00:26:03 Right now there's nothing in there. Right now, the Switch is off. It is firmly off. There is no... But there is the implication of a battle pass. Because you have the one that's inside there that's a progress base that's free. And then you have the store that you're buying costumes with in-game earned currency. So it's all off right now,
Starting point is 00:26:25 but for sure that's going to be coming. Yeah, that we'll see when it comes, you know? But in terms of the moment to moment, I'm obviously gonna have a giant bias on this, but it makes me so happy that the entire game is third person. Oh yeah. I really have, it's difficult to describe how moment to moment I'm just enjoying that aspect of it constantly as opposed to in first person shooters where I have to kind of forget
Starting point is 00:27:00 about it and find the fun and then I'll be like, oh yeah, I'm having fun in other ways with this and getting used to that, that aspect of it. You know, like I'll, I'll, I'll Titanfall will be so awesome regardless of, of, of the viewpoint that I'll just be enjoying everything going on with that. I think it's, uh, it's interesting because like they just pulled the camera back. Like it's a first person game that you're viewing from third person. As you're always pointed where you're aiming. Yeah. And I feel like I don't,
Starting point is 00:27:33 cause the obvious thing is like, well people buy more skins if they can actually see the skin on the character, right? Right. But also I bet there was a version of this game sometime that you were playing as like Spider-Man in first person and they were like, oh, oh, this is, this is fucking awful.
Starting point is 00:27:51 Oh, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's a really good observation because yeah, for sure, like the fact that you can fucking see your character and see your skins means you can enjoy that aspect of the game more. And yeah, while the characters have like, you take Overwatch characters and you split their kits up and rearrange
Starting point is 00:28:10 them to different pieces, you get a lot of these characters in Marvel Rivals. But Spider-Man and Venom are spider swinging really fast and really aggressively. Really fast. I picked Spider-Man as my first match. I was like, oh fuck, I suck at this, but ooh, cool. Yeah, they give you the Insomniac spider swing, right? Like you can straight up do the type of swing you can do in those games and fly through the air and release and by the time you go from top height
Starting point is 00:28:44 to bottom, you get another one. So, you time you go from top height to bottom, you get another one. So, you know, it's not helpful to your team, but you can swing around like a jackass all over the map and do that if you want to. So with that level of like, yeah, doing that in first person and grabbing onto the wall, running off the wall and then targeting somebody
Starting point is 00:29:00 and zipping to them to do like your spider sting uppercut there. Yeah, it's cool. It's awesome, but it'd be terrible in first person in that experience for sure. It'd be nauseating. Very much so. And then like there's just the part where, yeah, like again, you get to enjoy, like I said, the skins and all that stuff. I think I like how they also are, they're going, okay, you have their concept of like your tanks, your healers, your DPS and all
Starting point is 00:29:34 those types of things. They kind of simplified it into like Vanguard, duelists and then strategists is like the three categories they go with. Heavy, damage, other. Other, yeah. And other doesn't always mean healing necessarily, you know. But they do things where it's like, okay, you want your D.Va? Well, okay, do you want your D.Va kit or aesthetic? Because aesthetically Penny Parker is D.Va because they just basically... More! She's more D.Va because she went she went past diva to the inspiration Ava Diva yeah
Starting point is 00:30:09 she went she went past diva straight to an Ava and She's jumping into the spider Mac which is now like looking very Ava as well and Or do you actually want to play diva then there's Hulk right there? Hold on a minute. I'm getting an error here on the computer. Be right back. Let me fix that. One second. Oh, computer. No. Alright, there we go.
Starting point is 00:30:37 Yeah, just some space issues. That's on me. You gotta delete your old porn, Will they get a lot of work? Yeah, yeah, yeah, clearly. No, I think the temp files and stuff just build up. So gotta, gotta do that. What was I saying? Third person teams characters. Oh yeah, okay.
Starting point is 00:31:00 So Diva is split aesthetically into Penny Parker, but then kit-wise, it's actually Hulk. Yeah. It's just like, what? Cause Hulk, and it's like, why is that? And it's like, because when- And it's reverse D.Va, you start as the D.Va. And then you get into your mech, but in this case, you start as Banner,
Starting point is 00:31:18 and then you Hulk out, and then when you get defeated, you go back to being Banner, and as long as nobody kills you, you can very quickly build back up your Hulk out again. And then for your ult, you become an even bigger, angrier Hulk. Yeah, not Savage Hulk, but like, I forgot what the name was, but it's basically Savage Hulk. Big Hulk. And you can do the actual, the puny god slam, you know at them now the the issue I would say is while that's a really interesting design for a kit
Starting point is 00:31:53 He as a tank doesn't feel like Hulk because he has tank health But he hits really weak his punches feel really weak because his job is not to be a high damage character. Exactly, so I know that balance wise, that's probably how to keep him fair in his role. But he is supposed to do, because he's supposed to be like, I want Hulk to be able to knock everyone out in one punch. Yeah, yeah, no, exactly.
Starting point is 00:32:24 But it doesn't feel good, right? So it's like now you have an issue of like, okay, expectation of character and lore and how faithful it needs to be versus the gameplay requirements. And I think like there might be something to that where I'm sure they'll though they've thought about this, but like maybe making him feel like Hulk in terms of life and damage But then he drops back to being badder on a time limit or something You know could could be the way to deal with that like the weaknesses are more about him hulking out and then losing it Or something to that effect, but right now nah, man. Don't you get it because of the merging of the bullshit
Starting point is 00:33:04 Magic. Oh magic. Oh, magic. Okay, well, the the setting, the story, whatever the magic, whatever bullshit is, like it's the the premise is rad as **** Doctor Doom from the future and Doctor Doom from the past are fighting each other because they both invented some crazy **** that conflicts with each other's realities and so now only Doom can defeat Doom and everyone else has got to figure out a way to survive in the wake of that. So that's sick and I'm imagining Doom is going to become a character that drops
Starting point is 00:33:37 shortly after they start announcing them. But yeah, like that's, and I think like that Hulk thing is probably like my biggest flaw with the game right now is like he just doesn't feel that fun to use because he's jumping in and being the heavy annoying guy, but like he's not being anywhere near as heavy and annoying as Venom, for example. Venom is another tank who gets to jump in and do a temporary heal on his big life bar while...
Starting point is 00:34:12 It makes sense. Yeah. And then, and he can't really aim. He doesn't have a gun. He just has a bunch of symbioted tendrils that are poking at you. So he gets real close and does that kind of Winston shit, where he jumps behind the line, he targets the healers, and then he takes some damage and then he jumps away, you know, he harasses the back line. It's, it's, it feels that effect on his tentacles looks incredible.
Starting point is 00:34:37 Yeah, and between that and his ability to like wrap you up with the tentacles as well. It feels it feels like he's doing what Hulk ought to be doing, you know, because Hulk can do the Hulk jump and he can. But then Hulk does instead a Zarya shield on everybody, you know, which is not what I would think of. But it's it you can see that they're looking at these roles as like, you know, kit first, character second in some cases. Spider-Man is a perfect case of character first, kit second, because it
Starting point is 00:35:14 a- Spider-Man has to do this, this, this, and this. And Spider-Man does exactly what you think he does. What would you imagine his moves to be? Web? The uppercut that he always has and everything? Punch, like melee attacks, right? Zip towards enemy, zip enemy towards you, web up your enemy, and swing and do, and run on the walls.
Starting point is 00:35:34 That's what he does, right? 100%. And so, like, as that, he completely is that character. But as a result, he's considered, like, one of the hardest characters on the cast to use Oh, yeah, which is wild because it's fucking spider-man and you know, like that's a crazy thing to do to be like It's like hey, you want to be a Jedi fucking work for it. You know, it's it's it's from that same school of thought here But
Starting point is 00:36:03 That's a character that is 100% faithful in his play. You know, I don't know if they're going to change it before the game releases, but there is one thing that did throw me off really bad when I played it. And I don't know if they change it in the build that you're playing, but I played a much higher amount of the Punisher than I did other characters which was shocking because I'm not the biggest Punisher mark yeah because he's one of the only characters that actually has a hitscan gun almost everybody else fires projectiles that like slowly travel yeah so Punisher is I wasn't using him at
Starting point is 00:36:41 first and I started like after I did I streamed it I then kept playing, you know, because the beta I think it lasted until today He's really easy to use because he's bastion and Like he can go into turret mode and he can deal with fliers and he can deal with anything Like if he just focuses and rolls a gun man He's a gunman and he can switch to a shotgun point blank and if you've got great aim and you can head shot fairly consistently he's pretty much your best bet with the exception of Hela who is... She also has a hit scan. but Hela, so I don't know if it is hitscan,
Starting point is 00:37:26 but it is definitely, I think you see her swords travel. I don't think it's hitscan, but Hela is really, really strong because she has a perfect kind of, I guess, is it a sniper? No, not a sniper rifle. Whatever the case is, if she hits your body with her projectile, with her swords, it does like whatever mid damage, but if she headshots you, it's
Starting point is 00:37:50 two shots in your dead. You know? No. Hela is hitscan? Okay. All right. So- So yeah, one of the things that's goofy in these games is just because you see a projectile travel doesn't necessarily mean that it's not hitscan. I didn't know that. thought it was tied to instant fire laser usually like I mean like mechanically it is but like sometimes they'll throw the projectile afterwards just to show it but you would never be
Starting point is 00:38:15 able to dodge it if it's hits game oh so the result occurs and then the sword travels as an animation regardless yeah to justify to justify it. I see. OK, OK, OK, that makes sense. So, yeah, for her, like if you've got incredible aim, like, hella is just killing it on the team, you know, and then the ability to fly away. Hella is the, you know, Thor and Loki's sister from Ragnarok. Cate Blanchett. But yeah, it's it's it's interesting seeing like, okay,
Starting point is 00:38:45 so you got that Dr. Strange is a lot of fun, because like I was looking for I was looking for a Reinhardt, you know, because I really enjoyed playing Reinhardt. And like, yeah, Dr. Strange holds the front line with the shield up, you know, but because he's Dr. Strange, he's like, he's not a tank, but he has the shield. So that's there. And as long as your shield is up, you're fine. When it breaks, you've got to back off and use his magic projectiles, which build up, and then he's got to pop them because it becomes anti-heal after a while.
Starting point is 00:39:17 So that's an interesting mechanic of like, the more damage you do, the more you build up a debuff. But then that becomes a big attack. And then he's got a Symmetra teleport, you know, so then he can create the actual like ring so that your team can get back in faster. So it's like, huh, you have a ride heart Symmetra, you know? Yeah, but fuck all that. You portal people into the fucking out of bounds areas. Sure. Yeah, right, right. But then you need a way to actually get them in there.
Starting point is 00:39:50 Unless you're doing it, briefing your team is of course on board. But that's way more work than just grabbing Jeff the land shark. Because Jeff the land shark can eat as his super allies or enemies and swim to an edge and spit them out over the edge. Great.
Starting point is 00:40:10 So, you know, he's Jeff is like probably like probably the best healer. Just in terms of speed for healing like like, you know, HPS heals per second, you know, um, HPS, heals per second, you know, whatever. Um, but yeah, like he gets to jump into the ground and, and, and eats you and spits you out. So there's that. Um, Rocket Raccoon is a, is a nice like healing hybrid that like has a really damaging gun, cause it's Rocket fucking Raccoon, right? So he has the ability to support the backline with heals, but if he aims and lets loose, his damage output is really good as well. So yeah, there's just a nice split there.
Starting point is 00:40:53 Overall, my favorite was Magic. Because- Yeah, I played a good deal of Magic. Magic feels awesome. As a melee character, she can dash in, do a launcher, get an air combo, and then teleport out and follow up with either a spin or a demon that just does damage.
Starting point is 00:41:20 She's just a really fun character for making picks. But you have to have good awareness of where the weaker people are on the team. And you have to get in. And essentially, there's a combo sequence you can do with her, which involves doing a spin slash in, high time, air combo, and then dash out before anyone kills you.
Starting point is 00:41:44 But if you can make picks, you can do a lot of work with her. She's she's a lot of fun And her alt is just an install. That's a stronger version She also gets the Reinhardt like hammer wave, you know So you can take on like a good flyer or someone that's that's harassing you from a distance as well Yeah, she was she was definitely my favorite. Iron Man, I would say secondary, because I just was like, let's try out this flying jet pack fun, you know?
Starting point is 00:42:13 Yeah, he also, like Spider-Man, gets to do everything you would expect he'd be able to do, and you're like, this seems like a lot for a character in this type of game. Flyers are flyers. Like, they just, it's like, it's not just Pharah, you know? It's like, no, you can take to the air as a number of characters that cannot fly. It's not like a slow fall. It's like, no, I'm zip-zooping around.
Starting point is 00:42:34 So Iron Man literally never touches the ground. He spends the entire time in the air. The lowest you can do is hover above the ground. And yeah, the first time I picked him, I just fucking shrieked like crazy. Like it was nuts. I took out a bunch of people. I was like, Oh my God, that's it. Like you just, you alternate between players. Don't look up. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So you don't exactly. So people are not looking up. You're just taking them out because you have your, your, blast, you've got your beams, you've got your fucking missiles and shit like that. Unfortunately his ult is not a proton cannon, but so be it.
Starting point is 00:43:17 And when people, so either you switch to a hitscan character like Punisher or Hela to take out a flyer like Iron Man. You pick an Iron Man to take out an Iron Man because Beam versus other flying characters are really strong. Or you get Scarlet Witch. And Scarlet Witch is now a flying character who has a D.Va bomb for an alt, but her main gun is Winston's electricity. So she just has to get close and hold it down and it auto locks on for damage, which if
Starting point is 00:43:54 people have a hard time getting away from you and or no one healing them because healers sometimes are separate from, you know, the flyers, then they die really quick. Right? Moira Siphon, I couldn't, then they die really quick. Moira Siphon, I couldn't really give you a... Yeah, I didn't play Overwatch on Moira's Ending. Yeah, I didn't linger long enough for Moira to be a reference I can get for you. The latest I can go is probably Doomfist or Ana. And of course, there's that too.
Starting point is 00:44:20 There's a sleep that she has and stuff. Yeah, just a whole lot of fun. Groot's in there being properly annoying, putting up the walls, playing Minecraft, playing Fortnite while everyone else is trying to push the payload. And then something that really affects this game as well that I think is awesome is the team ups, right? Something that is actually quite different from Overwatch is that your team composition can be made up of people who have synergy with each other, not just because like tactical
Starting point is 00:44:59 synergy comes into play, but because they get literal extra abilities when you have them on the same team. When Rocket Racco abilities when you have them on the same team. When Rocket Raccoon and Punisher are on the same team, they love guns. So Rocket Raccoon throws out his usual generator and it makes Punisher's guns have infinite ammo with no reloads and the higher rate of fire. When Rocket has Groot on the field, he can jump on his shoulders as can Jeff the Landshark. You know, like there's really little, little fun things like that. And you will see, I've noticed as well, just queuing up, especially in competitive, people that are like, okay, I'll wait for someone to pick who they're comfortable with first because people who are, you know, kind of only good with one or two characters will
Starting point is 00:45:43 probably go to those. And if I feel comfortable, I'll pick whoever has synergy with that. If you get Loki, Thor, and Hela all on the field, whenever Hela scores a kill, Loki and Thor get health back, or if they're dead, they res, which is huge. Wow, that's pretty big. That's really big. And if you're a good Hella, you're constantly killing. So I still think one of the zaniest things that I mean, maybe they changed it from what
Starting point is 00:46:13 I played, but I remember picking up Loki and being like, wow, the Loki players I've been fighting are like really good about getting their fake Loki's out there. It seems that like every time I kill a fake Loki Like the guy just puts one right up and then I played as Loki and I'm like wait these goddamn Duplicates just live on the map fucking forever forever. What the fuck because they're crazy They're teleport points. They're turrets that he can become so you can- That's so fucking annoying and cool also. Yeah. And there's two, and literally it's two abilities, right? So you're not doing the same ability twice, but as Loki, you can create a fake where you're standing that then you disappear,
Starting point is 00:46:56 or you can create a fake from a distance where you're not standing, you know? And they both just stand there and shoot, but then if you look at them, you can teleport into them and take them over. So, yeah. Wait, people are saying they also heal your party. Oh, wow. While getting hit with the bullets, they're auto shooting. That makes sense because they- Oh, look, he's a swarm character?
Starting point is 00:47:18 That's so goofy. Because he shoots his damaging shot, heals your team when you aim it at them. So it's all in one ability. So that makes perfect sense. There are small healers, yeah, okay. And then on top of that, his ult lets you copy someone else to become another character on the team.
Starting point is 00:47:36 And I was like, I remember I read that, I was like, okay, you can X copy another character, sure. You could have a duplicate, what's the big deal? And it's like, no, no, no. You copy a character and your alt is still full Ah So I picked him and then I copied punisher to become punisher and then I popped Uh his alt and it's just the walking fucking insane. Uh, uh gun platform
Starting point is 00:48:00 You know Judge jury executioner You know? Judge, jury, executioner! You know, and you're like, yeah, you're in bastion mode again. You know, so he gets a huge benefit to that. Whoever's on the team whose ability you can benefit from the most at a time, just use that. You know?
Starting point is 00:48:17 You know, this is only tangentially related, but I don't know if you've seen that Overwatch 2 is testing a return to 6v6 Yeah, I heard I heard I heard I heard I heard I heard I heard they announced that Wow So the whole thing was for nothing, huh? Like just straight up just straight up return to the crack of my ass
Starting point is 00:48:44 Fuck that. Even if, and here's the thing, I kind of was saying, oh boy, I'm sure there's going to be a Blizzard response. We'll see what happens. There's going to have to be something. Something from now. You're gay. You, the player.
Starting point is 00:49:00 You. You, the player. Congratulations. You know, you didn't know it, but it turns out your backstory the whole time is that you're gay! Oh man! Oh me? Whoa! That's nuts, Blizzard! That is nuts. That's crazy. Damn. They waited until now until now okay what else is
Starting point is 00:49:26 happening half the company is getting laid off oh I see my gay backstory Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, all right. And you just, you like, they're gonna have to respond, right? They're gonna have to do something. And whatever the fuck they end up doing, I don't care because it's not third person. Oh, yeah. It still doesn't matter. You know, you were always like, oh, man, Overwatch is cool. But man, it'd be full order magnitude cooler.
Starting point is 00:50:16 Yeah, I could see the characters. And I was like, yeah, you're probably right. But I don't feel that intensely about it. But now that we have seen and played the exact thing that you were talking about, there's also Paladins. I don't know if you ever played that. I remember Paladins. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:50:34 It's like, oh yeah, no, you're completely right. No, I don't want to go back to just first person. I want to see my gorilla man or my sniper lady or whatever. And I've softened on it over the years because I've gotten more used to first person shooters as y'all have been like, hey, be normal, my guy. It's not working. No, no, but you're trying. But what doesn't help is when I see a game like Destiny or replays in Overwatch where suddenly the game goes to third person
Starting point is 00:51:06 and I get a moment of like, god damn it, I can see what this would be like for a second. I need to hold up my hand here. I wanted Paladins to be in third person so bad, I'm remembering it incorrectly as being in third person. What was the other game that was third person though? I don't know. It's not Paladins, then it's another game.
Starting point is 00:51:29 No. There is definitely one that I saw at multiple, there's one of those games that was at multiple game shows. Smite? I guess Smite. I guess Smite. Smite's probably the one then, yeah. Having played neither, I couldn't tell you,
Starting point is 00:51:45 but that's probably it. But I see these moments where Destiny goes third person for your Supers, Replay's go third person in Overwatch, you know? And you know, over the years, I remember early on when I was really, really like, ugh, I hate this. Even like Metroid Prime, I was like, oh, okay, they go third person for these quick moments for like more fall and stuff. But
Starting point is 00:52:11 the visor stuff is awesome. And you can't do the visor stuff in third person. So there's a there's a I mean, you could but it was yeah, there's a there's a thing to the way they made those games that I appreciate what they were doing with that man Destiny's Destiny's way of going third-person is just like So fucking lame Like well, this is an appropriate day to bitch about destiny, but like Bungie makes first-person shooters, but then they wanted you to be like, Oh, but I want the cool armor.
Starting point is 00:52:47 And so you can go, you can see yourself in third person for like 10 seconds in your super or if you have a melee weapon. Yeah. But that's not enough. So like, Oh, how do we make people, Oh, you know what? We'll put them in third person in the hub area. And the only place you'll ever be meaningfully in third person is the hub. Ugh, man.
Starting point is 00:53:08 Does that change anything about how the hub works? No. Ugh. Now, here, their hands are even, like, more tied because they're fucking Marvel characters. You know? They're superheroes. Who wants the Iron Man? It's crazy. You have to see them. Their design, their colors, everything about them is about seeing them. I don't want to see Iron Man from the elbow out. I want to fly around, zip, zoop.
Starting point is 00:53:36 And they would have to build a lot of these characters if they were in first person. They'd have to build the identity into their arms and there are things where like, oh, Hela and Scarlet Witch might look or feel a bit too samey, you know, if they were stuck in first person. And you want to, yeah, things wouldn't necessarily be as distinct, you know. When you're making stuff from scratch, of course, you can do whatever you want, but they have an IP here that you want to see. And I think Fortnite to some degree, with the skins in that, it also matters to that
Starting point is 00:54:10 end, right? When you fucking get your caked up Chun-Li, it's so that you can see her running around in Fortnite. So anyway, gameplay aside, there's just that element of it that is much preferred. You get these payload push style missions that are all the things you'd expect and all the direct replacements. I really just need an excuse to shoot the other team. I'll be quite honest.
Starting point is 00:54:36 Yeah, sure. You know, depending on, I remember when I was playing Overwatch comp, it was like, oh, certain types of missions are better for certain characters like Punisher is great but like if you if you have a payload push it's not always great to to go into your target mode because you're yeah like scarlet witch would be good on a payload push because she has her bomb to tell everyone to get the fuck off the payload or whatever the hell you know yeah so there's things like that. But anyways, all this was actually just deciding from the fact that these team ups were a really
Starting point is 00:55:11 unique fun thing about the game. But the commitment, if you think about it, to getting these instant rezzes with all the Asgard siblings is half of your team is them. So you better be comfortable with Thor Loki and Hela, you know Yeah, and it's like, you know It'll be interesting in a couple years when they decide that this incredibly fun res mechanic is not not balanced anymore And completely neuter it do something meaning that oh my god break the character. I Didn't even play overwatch when they made that Mercy change and I was like, bro, I would
Starting point is 00:55:46 stop playing today if I still was. Did she not get reworked twice? Is that if I'm not, I think she did. And one of the reworks was her fucking ult don't no longer picks up the team off the floor. Right, right, right. Yeah. Heroes never die except for the ones who do. And then the other thought is like, okay, so if you decide to go with magic, you pick
Starting point is 00:56:13 Black Panther and well, they don't really have a whole lot in common lore wise, but they together team up to have a teleporter so they can use a two-way teleport that only they can use and it's like that's a Really really good ability for a backlining Picking character to be able to just instantly look at a space and get there and then take someone and then jump back through That no one's pretty good and no one else can follow They didn't they don't seem trapped in like well these characters are friends. So they have a team up Yeah, instead some have a team up. Instead, some of that is there.
Starting point is 00:56:47 But then some of it is like, it'd be cool though. And they kind of went like, oh yeah, Wakanda reached out to the limbo and Magic answered back and so that's their reason. Whatever, who cares? They get a teleport. But their actual gameplay reason is because if you pick fucking Magic and Black Panther, you have two melee picking characters. You have two characters that don't have guns.
Starting point is 00:57:10 You're going to be diving a lot. That's crazy. Two of your six are committed to that and if you're thinking about it, they're both DPS characters. So your two tanks are there, your two healers are there, and all of your kills are coming from people jumping the back line. Holy fuck, you better have your shit together. Here's a teleport. Use it wisely.
Starting point is 00:57:29 It's a wild dive comp. Exactly. You know, so they've really they've they've put a lot of thought into that, too. Going through some of these stuff, there's all the things, the sprays and the, you know, play of the game things. Although play of the game is interesting here because instead they'll pick the player of the game, but everyone will have a highlight reel so you can watch your own highlight of your best moment. They don't.
Starting point is 00:57:52 Hey man, hey, you did a good job too. Yeah, yeah, yeah. On your highlight reel, you're lying it and you're like fuck. You don't watch what the other people were doing necessarily. You have to click to take a look. But something that sets this apart, and I don't know that any other game of Team Shooter or so has this, so you
Starting point is 00:58:13 know, correct me if I'm wrong here. I mean, should I? I referenced, what is it? Anyway, whatever. I should have said Team Fortress Spy earlier. I didn't play Team Fortress 2. I don't know. Spy turns into other people. Sure. Yeah, yeah. Loki, right. You go to the ability screen to explain their move list and everything they do. And they show you, you know, here's what the character's about. Here's their alts. Here's their uniques. Here's their team ups and then the last thing on the move list is
Starting point is 00:58:50 Here is the suggested combo of How to play the character and it's nice that is so good Just give me somewhere to start somewhere to start. Give me a bread and butter Give me a bread and butter and it's like Okay, so you've got magic. She's got swords, but you're in a game where everyone's got guns So you're gonna die a lot So what you probably want to do is learn this combo because if you do it and you're accurate and no one else is on Your ass you can kill a character in a straight shot touch, but you have to not fuck this up All right here it is teleport inport in, spin slash, dash, launch, one, two,
Starting point is 00:59:26 teleport out, right? It shows you on the fucking move list, learn this and this is how you play the character properly. And you go to every character and it shows you like, here's the sequence, you wanna, with Iron Man, dash in, throw some missiles out, get up close, use the beam, put the chest armor on, get amplified damage, fly out of there. You know?
Starting point is 00:59:52 Yeah, Hulk literally was like, jump in, throw your shield on, punch people twice, jump away. I very much appreciate a team shooter showing you a bread and butter combo. And it is goofy though, because it brings into mind the thing you were talking about before. We're like, here's the character's kit and their intended purpose. And I'm like, ah, yes, Hulk, the hit and run specialist. Hit run and Zarya shield everybody, right? Yes, exactly. You know, but no, it really is nice because it's like,
Starting point is 01:00:27 there's times where I was like, I wanna play a little bit of each of these characters to see how they feel. Because as a character going into it, magic wasn't always my favorite or anything. I was like, oh cool, Ileana grew up to be this sword girl. That's dope, all right. From my Ileana knowledge is all the x-men cartoon of
Starting point is 01:00:47 Colossus going She gets a huge push in Fuck what was it called midnight sons? Ah, okay. Okay. It's like one of the the main characters there. Yeah And that's when I found out she existed. Oh. Oh, I really like this character a lot. Okay, she was a little girl in X-Men pre-97, X-Men 92, you know.
Starting point is 01:01:15 And I always was like, okay, that's cool, let's pull Colossus as a sister. Sure, you know. So she's magic, shut up! Yeah, and so when she grew up and became fucking sword girls, I got red. That's nice. That's fun That's a it was a bit of a night wing thing, you know, like oh, yeah Okay, you you went from being this to that and that's who you are now. Yeah for for time and and and and things But now just yeah looking at like gameplay wise I was like oh yeah she can
Starting point is 01:01:46 she can fucking melee it in this game in a way that I like kind of like Doomfist you know and I was like I always enjoy that so that that's where the attention goes. Black Panther is the same thing but just a little bit harder to use and Panther is aggressive as fuck shit **** yeah but like never stop going in but then never stop going out get the **** out you have to get out so quickly and at least with with magic you can teleport out a little bit easier you
Starting point is 01:02:15 know whereas like him it's like you're getting shot in the back like like good **** luck you know anyway um i this whole team up things is really is cool because you'll have these teams that are ostensibly going to be like, all right, here's three that are synergy. You know, you've got the Asgard kids, and then you've got racket, rocket and Punisher. And then maybe you can pick a sixth for whatever purposes, you know, but like the idea that you can have a composition made up of like a triple team up and a double team up is a fun way to look at compositions in this game as well.
Starting point is 01:02:50 Smaller synergies within the group as opposed to, I guess, the whole role. So awesome game. Really, really good so far. I was able to get- Hopefully they don't fucking up with my good translation. That's what'll do it. That's what'll do it. I was able to hopefully they don't fucking up with my good That's what that's what'll do it. That's what'll do it. You know I was able to get had a game that you felt that way and got Like destroyed on release I mean For honor was rough
Starting point is 01:03:17 With no for honor had horrible crippling problems aside from all that other shit though But a game were like I played it beforehand and then they draw they hit the button I don't know if so. It would have been probably something we talked about here pointing out Gundam Evo Gundam evolution Okay, I don't know if multiverses counts because it's still not technically even out Yeah, I don't know We would have talked about it here. I'm sure, in the past at some point. Gundam Evo, I just, you know, whatever. I enjoyed for as briefly as I could. Wild that that game is still dead.
Starting point is 01:03:55 But the last thing I was going to say was, oh yeah, something that they had in this beta that was a reward that you permanently get to keep when the game launches Surprisingly is a color for venom That's like all the Marvel versus Capcom the Marvel versus Capcom cyan color Yeah, which is awesome because I'm like, oh, yeah, he wasn't that color in any other thing but ever it's specifically from and any other thing, but it's specifically from MVC. So yeah, that cool blue venom is the reward. So I'm like, okay, let me just get that, at the very least,
Starting point is 01:04:33 because that's for sure something I'm gonna want. And I also noticed too that like, none of these skins are classic at all. Like Magneto has a gray outfit and then a dark purple outfit, but it's not really... It's China. It's China anime shit. I love that shit. But for sure, you're gonna expect to see a classic Magneto for sale at some point with the red and purple. But yeah, some of these outfits are just like,
Starting point is 01:05:05 you know, cool newer takes on some of them, but like there's for sure a big, if you want to sell Magneto with the suns out, guns out, crop top, that's coming. You're gonna have to spend some points on that. Yeah, there's a, and then of course, you know, the playing the game of what Marvel characters are gonna show up next It's like fucking the sky's the limit
Starting point is 01:05:28 You know anyone from any current thing that they're pushing that would be very popular such as Deadpool for example or Wolverine Speaking of Deadpool and Wolverine yes, did you see it? No, okay? There's a fun spoiler conversation to have about that movie if you do get a chance to watch it. So, I think I'm not gonna talk about any detail, but I was talking to someone else. I won't spoil either. Who saw it. And they were like wow there's That that movie opens strong they said but I don't want to tell you what it is and I said is it this and They were like how could you have possibly guessed that and I'm like because I read that interview Okay, and I had the thought of that would be really funny. Okay Yeah Okay, and I had the thought of that would be really funny. Okay Yeah
Starting point is 01:06:27 There's a bunch of wild shit about the intro that is you know, that's pretty funny But also it's a Deadpool movie. So at this point, whatever's irreverent is also kind of expected but No spoilers ultimately you're like hey the previous Deadpool movies were pretty funny so let's go see what Ryan Reynolds is up to this time and although all the promotional material of him harassing Hugh Jackman and stuff with him in the outfit and stuff, it seems like that's a funny enough reason to watch these characters and coming out in this way as the MCU takes over and as the you know, you get to yeah, the rated R, you know, the rated R characters, right? Because there was a time where like, yeah, Deadpool, like blowing people's brains away was like, Oh, my god, that's great.
Starting point is 01:07:19 Like, I remember hearing people who did not know much about, like, you know, comic book, kick movies or anything, going like, oh, yo, you go on a, gotta go see Deadpool, it's crazy. They actually swear and it's actually violent and fucking nuts, you know? That was a thing at the time, right? So that novelty has definitely kind of worn off. So it's a bit of it is just like, okay,
Starting point is 01:07:40 that's not gonna land as much anymore or be any kind of surprising element. You know, what else have you got? Right? I'm you know, it's going to be like, it's good enough for it to be funny. But there's an overall premise behind the film that is actually really, really worth it and good. That was very refreshing. And I will say that it's also interesting because I don't know how timeless, quote unquote, a lot of these movies will be. I know that like, I think Endgame, from rewatching parts of that over time,
Starting point is 01:08:17 I've been like, yo, I'll be able to watch this in the future and still really enjoy the best parts and what I love there. You know, and like Civil War as well. Like there's some shit there that I'm like, yeah, I think that's that's right. Say that there is one I'd say Civil War actually aged really badly. Okay. Like really badly.
Starting point is 01:08:36 Okay. Because what initially like the spectacle of that big conflict overwhelmed your senses. Now when you go back and look at like that airport shit outside of it's like day one context, that airport scene is like one of the ugliest fucking shot scenes in that whole movie franchise. And it's embarrassing just because of like CG stuff? No, the fact that it's you have this titanic clash of all these heroes in like essentially a Walmart parking lot. Oh, shot in the middle of the day with like boring color grading. Well, okay. Yeah, I remember we talked about this a while ago. And
Starting point is 01:09:22 I will say I don't know how it went last time, I'll say to be fair if they were having that civil war fight in the middle of the city like assholes Superman We would be going what the fuck is wrong with you heroes destroying the city with your stupid squabble Why don't you do this shit somewhere where people won't get hurt because you're heroes? You know what I mean? Oh, I'd be like, you guys should be fighting on Namek. What are you doing doing this in the city? There are a wide variety of, of like destinations that are empty of humans that you could have a big climactic film clash that aren't like the back lot of a Denny's visually. Okay. So for example, on a crashing helicarrier or...
Starting point is 01:10:10 In the desert where Goku and Vegeta hang out or literally anything. The floating island of Sokovia. Yeah, sure. That didn't go over too well. Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh,
Starting point is 01:10:28 oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, Wolverine has definitely some nice, fun tidbits that are going to be good for Evergreen or whatever, but there are some hard bits that only work right now. There are some hard bits about this movie that really, really only work now, now, now. Within the theatrical release. Yes. Like, within the theatrical release. Yes, yes.
Starting point is 01:11:05 He did. And this, and some bits will not land anywhere near as good as they do if you catch it too late, I would say. So, it's funny to go watch and it's enjoyable, and it's just like the others, it'll tickle your fancy with some irreverent bullshit and Deadpool being as wacky and fourth wall breaking as he always is. And you want to get your references to things because Ryan Reynolds loves being like, hey nerds, we're ready to wet your panties.
Starting point is 01:11:37 He always has that bit. So nerdgasm, et cetera. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's all there. That's all fine. References, get your checklist out, you know? But just in terms of like where we are in time right now and the energy for where superhero movies are too. Kind of how the first Deadpool was like
Starting point is 01:12:04 coming out and being very violent and and you know kind of talk and Swear and talk about my head etc. Whatever and getting into that that meta aspect It does things here that I'm like, I really think this is the perfect vehicle and you know, and last but I'll say is just that like I also didn't know what the purpose and Need for like again this kind of movie would be besides just like yeah more more more gags and stuff although I again I enjoyed all the rest well I mean I can see two purposes one Ryan Reynolds wants to make more movie than Passion of the Christ. Yes
Starting point is 01:12:38 Finally, yes, the highest rated are the highest are rated movie grossing movie of all time Yeah, so Paige and I recently actually watched Deadpool 2, just last week. She had not seen it and had a great time. That movie holds up really well. One of the first movies' gags, sorry, one of the first gags in the second movie is that ah damn, highest rated R movie ever except for Jesus. Maybe next time. Okay, okay. Yeah, time. Okay, okay.
Starting point is 01:13:05 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So this time literally does it. And that gag not only works for Deadpool too, it works for this current movie's jokes as well. But yeah, there is just like, the fact that Deadpool can fourth wall break allows for some proper scathing ass commentary on the state of affairs in the Marvel universe right now.
Starting point is 01:13:34 And that's very appreciated and very welcome. Okay, I have one question to ask. Do they take a shot and poke fun at how hard can it be to make a Blade movie? They absolutely take shots at that and more. Right. They take shots in all directions. Have gun, will shoot. Nobody's getting out unscathed. A million percent yes. Fantastic. Right? The energy that I think, it's like basically Deadpool
Starting point is 01:14:11 is saying what everybody's thinking right now, right right now, today. So go catch it while you can. Lot of fun. And outside of that as well, while I was there, I don't want to get my hopes up, but those, you know, the trailers for stuff and everything. And I saw a trailer they played for Alien Romulus. And I don't know, I haven haven't haven't been paying attention I've been
Starting point is 01:14:47 pretty outside on a lot of alien movies ever since Prometheus I would say but it looks pretty fucking good and it's from the director of Don't Breathe which was a very good movie so I'm, hey, trailer for an alien movie that looks like a straight alien movie, doesn't look like there's much, no frills, you're getting what you would expect, but everything I've seen in that trailer looks pretty good. I might be excited, I don't know.
Starting point is 01:15:24 But I also, again, like, I really, Prometheus defeated me spiritually and I have not been to see an alien movie since then and that's probably been about 10 years ago now or so. Apparently, Covenant was also very bad. Okay,, yeah. It's hard hearing all that and being like, oh, maybe you should, but I just, all I can say is, this was a moment of, it's alien related?
Starting point is 01:15:56 Oh, I'm not gonna, I'm gonna check out. And then by the time the trailer finished, I was like, huh, okay. Let's see. Let's see. Well, you have to remember that the Alien film franchise is a film franchise filled with fucking terrible movies and two of the best movies you've ever seen in your life. Right, right. It's just surrounded by complete garbage.
Starting point is 01:16:22 And the license holder that needs an alien product to be released at least every two to four years. Right. Like Aliens Terminator, you know, these things like there's a bit of a like, oh, they're always working on a new one, no matter what's going on. You know, there's like and you can see it in the crossover frequency as well with some of this stuff but yeah as far as a Alien goes I did hear I remember I didn't watch it but I downloaded someone made a an edit of Prometheus called derelict that supposedly like kind of like a
Starting point is 01:17:02 Yeah, it makes it move apparently makes it better and makes it more coherent. I'd be curious to check that out at some point. Kind of like No Jar Jar and the Phantom Editor or whatever. But I'm more than content to completely forget the Aliens franchise outside of the occasional game that comes out like Isolation that's very good, for example. Hey, an Alien movie wasn't very good Can we re-edit it says people who are fans of most of the films in the movies? That whole thing was fucked though, like every everything about aliens becoming a film franchise was always gonna lead to like doom
Starting point is 01:17:40 Because it's like hey Let's have the alien and outer space be a metaphor for sexual violence and then in like cast it with non gendered speaking roles. Like like the casting was was non gendered for all the roles in Alien because we really want to delve down into like like what is essentially a horror movie as rape metaphor right and then James Cameron comes along go I hit that bitch with a robot fist and I go fuck yeah she hit it with the fists but then it was all down it was it was rad as shit yeah yeah absolutely I mean uh you know the if if you're if your first movie is that one your It was rad as shit. Yeah. Yeah. Absolutely.
Starting point is 01:18:25 I mean, you know, if your first movie is that one, your second movie gets into your matriarchy representation and everything about that, it's fantastic. They're fucking incredible despite being super different from each other. But yeah, no. and the thing is too, is like, it's also more of a crossover franchise than it is its own franchise at this point.
Starting point is 01:18:52 You know, like Terminator, like Predator, and these things where you're like, well, Terminator probably not, but. Oh, I don't know about that. That seems like. No, do you not feel that like, you're gonna see Alien, Predator predator and Terminator kind of show up in Versus things like a whole lot more than their own material
Starting point is 01:19:12 Sometimes I don't I don't view The 90s and ought's Comics as meaningful of any use of comics as meaningful of any use of Because I remember that when I remember when it Batman had to fight the aliens Yeah and I remember predator and the Terminator and he hangs out with the Ninja Turtles and I doesn't mean that I think of Ninja Turtles is A crossover franchise and I remember and I remember when I turned the page and I saw a batarang in spawns face
Starting point is 01:19:43 And that's where the stitch down the middle of his face comes from, you know, and Robocop versus the Terminator and all the, you know, like when I think of Robocop, I don't think about like fan favorite hung out with the predator Robocop. I think of Murphy and how sad he is that his wife left him. He's a robot. Yeah, maybe, I don't know, maybe I'm off, but I guess I'm like, these franchises dance with each other all the time.
Starting point is 01:20:12 They're willing to do crossovers. And the whole commitment to things like Wayland's coming from the Predator world in Yutani, or the other way around, rather. Wayland's coming from the alien world in Yutani coming from the Predator world and stuff, is is like further deeper commitment to their backstories That's that's some Akuma and Tekken type shit when you say it like this I realized that I'm doing something mentally and I don't know if that makes me insane or keeps me sane
Starting point is 01:20:38 If I'm watching alien or aliens the only two movies that exist in the world at that time are Alien and Aliens. Well, there is no such thing as Alien Resurrection when I'm watching 76's Alien because it doesn't exist. Shut up. I mean, unfortunately, that's not what IMDB has to say. But you're not I mean, you're not wrong spiritually. You're going to get no argument for me. Right. But the reason why I feel like these are crossover franchises is
Starting point is 01:21:11 because most of the time I see them, it's in the context of a crossover occurring. It's it's really wild. Like with Alien, we we were like, oh, can't we get the original director back? And now we're like, can you get Ridley Scott away from me? we get the original director back and now we're like can you get Ridley Scott away from this? I think the reason why Prometheus like bugged me deeper than everything was because it was fresh and unique enough of its own thing that it could have been like the potential was there. Now get ready for the third act!
Starting point is 01:21:43 You know like the whole like what if we just distanced ourselves and went yeah where this is about space jockeys fuck it we're not gonna talk about the rest of it don't worry no shut up though here it comes the potential is what is is what bugged me you know anyways I mean shit man they're fucking they're the Abe predators are Capcom characters too I think I think you know from what I know of covenant They they commit the ultimate movie sin of skipping past in the in the movies prologue What would have been a much more interesting movie? To get to the shitty movie you're about to watch
Starting point is 01:22:22 The thing in the crawl of text is more interesting than where they actually start. Do you know what happens in the first 10 minutes of Covenant? No, I don't know anything about Covenant. I'm going to spoil the first 10 minutes of Alien Covenant. All right, everybody, I'm giving you the warning. So at the end of Prometheus, they go, we're going to find where these engineers live and we're going to get them. And then the first 10 minutes of Covenant is they show we're gonna find where these engineers live and we're gonna get them and then the first ten minutes of covenant is they show up on their planet and they just dump a bunch of alien juice on them and genocide the
Starting point is 01:22:52 whole planet wow wow that's the end of that yeah that's the Prometheus tie that's the intro of that movie movie jockeys over yeah that's crazy that's crazy holy shit that I would go on that I never bothered to go see it but it had I done so I would have walked up and left I would like I don't Could I would have liked to see the movie where they go to that planet and anything See yeah, also I'm remembering now Michael Fassbender did a really good job, too. Yeah, he did. It was really good. Yeah Man, he did such a good job, but they wanted him to become the most important character in Alien ever Well anyway
Starting point is 01:23:57 Yeah, so this this new one from don't breathe guy might be might be good might be cool I saw the trailer while we were talking and it's a really cool visual shot of somebody shining a flashlight on their chest and you can see the thing under their rib cage. Yeah, that's a really good shot. Yeah. The chest buster. I think kind of like Predators, there's a bit of a like, because I'm thinking of people,
Starting point is 01:24:23 I remember hearing people saying like, oh man, I remember hearing people saying, oh man, I remember hearing from people that loved Covenant. They were just like, yeah, there's some great kills. And so people basically saying, man, there's some real wipe outs in this movie. Love some good wipe outs. Oh man. Like that energy where it's like, I'm not paying attention to anything except for what the scary alien is doing at any given moment in time.
Starting point is 01:24:43 But if the game or if the movie is attempting to create some sort of overarching narrative or connection to other pieces and make a larger story about the origins of where all these things come from, then that shit sucks if it's done poorly. And even if you're like, I don't care about, it doesn't matter, it's there and it sucks, right? And that's what Prometheus essentially is.
Starting point is 01:25:09 Predators was like, hey, fucking whatever. We're zooming in as close as you can to this one story here with a threat that you're familiar with. But that threat is not even really sure how to do its job. And everything is just low tech, like fucking basic. And I think this new trailer as well kind of gives that vibe off of like, yeah, nevermind the larger thing, we're just going to tell a small scale story and perhaps that is enough to make something good because you don't have to worry about the fuck ups on a grand scale. It's fascinating the amount of dots that just connected because you said Predators.
Starting point is 01:25:47 Yes. And I'm like since because of the ghoul we've been watching a lot of Walton Goggins stuff and then I'm remembering Walton Goggins was in Predators and then I'm like wait Walton Goggins is the guy who got that dude you knew in trouble at work he says the line yeah five o'clock right is it yeah what time is it you know I mean okay did he get I guess technically he got in trouble if I was the supervisor and I went hey dude you need to chill Because nobody knows what your reference. Oh, he knows and you're just you're just being an insane person right now. Yes
Starting point is 01:26:33 If you can get everyone you can hit Google and search for your your your predators Five if I type five o'clock in Walton Goggins. what time is it? Is that going to... Predators, what time is it is probably good enough. Anyways, for anyone who didn't hear the story, someone I was working with on pretty much like his first or second day working in QA just started saying that line out loud and I was his compliance manager next to him and I'm like, I know what you're getting at and I know what you're referencing, but no at and I know what the what you're referencing But no one else in this offices. No knows what you're referencing. So that's a crazy thing to say
Starting point is 01:27:12 You really need to stop you can't just say that out loud on day two Right like I know I've seen the movie, I know, but what the fuck man? Anyways, yes, so that was that. Um, we'll see, we'll see what this fucking, what this movie has. And the little, I don't know if it's been desecrated in the other movies, but the alien font fading in with the lines slowly. Ah, it's been desecrated in the other movies, but the the alien font fading in with the line slowly Nah, it's a good gimmick. It's a good bit. You don't need to fuck it up. Yeah, it's a really good bit You know the lines coming in like did they I did I don't know if they fucked it up in the other bad ones
Starting point is 01:27:57 But now they all just kind of do it and it's good. That's great. I really like that I love how the alien the alien logo fades in Great stuff Anyway, so yeah, that's that's pretty much it petonk rivals and Deadpool and Wolverine. I'm gonna be Streaming a sponsored stream this week. We got Mecha break tomorrow So check that out. Oh, can you get me a code for that I don't need a sponsorship I just want to play it I mean maybe yeah see what's possible you might have to go hand in hand with a sponsorship
Starting point is 01:28:36 potentially but I mean that game seems cool it looks extremely cool I like it's it's definitionally high speed robot action. And that has my interest written all over it. And not to mention, as I've mentioned before, the Mecha designers working on it are Ishigaki and Yenase, who are some of the designers behind fucking Xenogears, Metal Gear, Death Stranding tech, some Gundam stuff. There's a lot of great work they've done. So I'm looking forward to that.
Starting point is 01:29:13 So yeah, check it out tomorrow. We'll be streaming that on Tuesday. And then we're making some big progress in Yakuza. We're mainlining that plot as hard as possible. And Elden Ring as well. So that's all going to be continued. Azhar. Oh, and I just want a quick shout out to for two games on Fist of Cuffs. Fist of Cuffs, yeah. On getting to fighting games.
Starting point is 01:29:41 It's been years. I still make the same mistakes. It is what it'd be. I played SVC Chaos, which has now been ported by Cognizantix over onto Steam. Hey, guess what? They got rollback working in KOF Ultimate Match 98 in 2002 and Sam Show 5. And so they just went and said, hey, we're gonna drop a new ROM in there,
Starting point is 01:30:05 and that ROM is SVC Chaos. So if you ever wanted to go see some wild dialogue and some sprites of Capcom- I wanna see some Mars people action. Mm-hmm, and Capcom characters drawn in the SNK style, yeah, go play this game. It's fucking, again, 19 characters or show does out of like 30 or whatever but watch it and
Starting point is 01:30:30 And a proper shout out to an indie fighting game called dojo masters Super high lots of fun Real I thought it's the one I talked about that I played at Evo That was where there was a pixel fighter, no jumping and like the boxer makes counter hits exist in the game. When you don't pick boxer, there's no counter hits and things like that. Yeah, so we played a lot of that and had some fun.
Starting point is 01:30:56 Go check that out. That's going to be coming out this week as well. Just a really simple but good game that has like yeah three styles of character six rather martial arts that fight each other and each Fundamentally changes the game in a very drastic way when you when you play as them or pick them. So Dojo masters is what it is. So yeah, we versus on YouTube and on twitch What's going on?
Starting point is 01:31:22 All right. Let's see what I what I do this week. So I'm going to try and get through this as quickly as possible. I played more fall at London fall London is incredible fall London is a genuinely brand new fallout game with one caveat and that is it is a brand new fallout game just like all the others which means after Three or four streams I hit a part where I was trapped inside a dungeon and had to no clip my way out into the collision So I could escape And I was like
Starting point is 01:31:55 Maybe I should wait for this a little bit In addition to there's dog noises and the other things you mentioned last week. It needs a little more time in the oven. It's extremely impressive, but it needs just a little more time in the oven, I think. But it'll get there. I spoke with somebody and they say the updates are coming. Let's see. So we finished Righteous Gemstones entirely.
Starting point is 01:32:22 Oh yeah. Okay. Righteous Gemstones has three current seasons and it is a real like treat to finish the third season of something and In the time it takes between you look pulling out your phone and finding out that they're filming a fourth season right now and Not knowing if there is going to be a fourth season Yeah, no it you could just end it right there and that would be great
Starting point is 01:32:51 This would be great. You could just do it. You would be fine. It would be great Now I do want to see more uncle baby Billy is it it would be great Is it that it would be great or is it that more would ruin it? No, it's just it ends on a perfect note on a good note. Okay, okay So with that out of the way, we're like well Danny McBride Worked with Walton Goggins on a project right before righteous gemstones Which is the prototype for righteous gemstones called vice principles So we dug into that which is the prototype for Righteous Gemstones called Vice Principals.
Starting point is 01:33:25 So we dug into that. Okay. And it's the Righteous Gemstones, but they're Vice Principals instead. Okay. It's Danny McRide. So, I mean, you know what? There's a bunch of actors from Righteous Gemstones that are there. Can you really even hate it?
Starting point is 01:33:44 Can you blame him? Like it's like if if Adam Sadler is like, I'm gonna get me and my friends paid by just fucking doing whatever with me and my friends making money for Netflix because they're just like, yeah, go go make stuff. If Danny McBride is like, it's going to be me in different jobs just being me. No, listen, I'm going to be I'm going to be Danny McBride. OK, and I'm going to play. American Ricky from the trailer park boys and literally every single thing I do. Sure. Yes. Yes. And I'm going to be like a complete asshole and talk like an idiot. And then Walton
Starting point is 01:34:18 Goggins will be there and he will act like a huge cunt. And we're going to go on adventures that escalate wildly outside of the context of the show. We're going to do. Oh, it's about vice principles being mad at the, at the administration. Okay. Let's just escalate this to right before you would turn it off because that's just too ridiculous. Yes. Like at what point does Kenny Powers almost kick a child in the chest? Yeah, right? Yes. Real early. Real early. Because that's the only place to go. That's it. Like Paige and I are sitting there and we're watching like I think the second episode we was like, this has gone too far this is this is too much it's great it's it's fantastic we're about almost on the first season only two seasons because it got canceled I think
Starting point is 01:35:13 I think it died okay uh let's see what else uh yesterday was a horrible fucking day. Oh. Yesterday was such a horrible fucking day Hmm. That, um... It becomes a story. So first thing off, I lost my wedding ring. Oh shit. Yeah, so I've lost a little bit of weight. And so, my finger fats
Starting point is 01:35:43 Oh my god. are not as good as they usually are for keeping my wedding ring on my hand. Now that was a bummer. I was very upset. Oh fuck. Luckily, my amazingly incredible, talented, perfect wife was like, I'm just going to go in the sink you idiot. It's obviously going to go in the sink, you idiot.
Starting point is 01:36:05 It's obviously going to be in the sink and found it. And it was in the sink. It was in the sink. Oh my God. Okay. Because today is the day of truth, you see. So I don't know if you remember me using the phrase the day of truth a little while ago, but that was on my birthday in which I said for my birthday, I was gifted a day of truth a little while ago, but that was on my birthday in which I said for my
Starting point is 01:36:25 birthday I was gifted a day of truth in which and I could just say whatever the fuck I wanted and didn't have to tone it down for human for human reasons. Well today is Paige's day of truth. Today is Paige's birthday. Happy birthday. I love you Hey page has changed the rules of the day of truth Page's day of truth is everything she says will come true So she said I'm gonna go find your ring and then she found it Okay Those are those are somewhat different terms there. They're a little different.
Starting point is 01:37:06 Okay, hey, that's... I'm being instructed that I should probably explain. So I was really upset yesterday. I was like on the verge of tears for most of the day because I lost the ring. And when my wife was like, why are you so upset? It's just a ring. I was like, because you're going to die you see the ring is a symbol and the symbol is marriage okay so and it's just till
Starting point is 01:37:33 death do you part let's go how old were you when and when young Pat fucking cemented 35 some insane idea that... No, no, listen. If the ring is gone, then it's gonna die. It's like when a bird gets in the house. No, Pat. It's like when a bird gets in the house. The ring symbolizes no beginning and no end, so if you lose the ring, it's fine.
Starting point is 01:38:00 It's if the ring breaks. Anyway, the point is, is Paige found the ring. So she's okay. That's, that's, that's, that's the takeaway here. Okay. But that wasn't the only thing that happened for the record. Um, as someone who has fluctuated in weight greatly and has faced this problem quite a bit and the resizing issue has always been like, okay, but where is it going to go? What are my fingers going to be at? Is it in a state where it's not going to come flying off my finger or it's not going
Starting point is 01:38:38 to be too tight? That's why I've got it over and over. Exactly. I should probably move to that Yeah, cuz that there's been one or two many times where I'm just like I don't like that. Yeah that you know But here's here's the problem is that I like to have it on my hand And tap it on things like an engineer. I can be like ah still married So that you don't so that you don't fuck up that bridge you have to build yeah, so Let's go back in time
Starting point is 01:39:08 so a couple days ago a friend of Paige's she came over and they were while I was doing a stream and they were their Girl chatting blah blah blah blah and hanging out with the baby, right? But they were supposed to go Yard sailing Saturday morning, right which Which is, you know, garage sale season, but we wake up in the morning and our friend texts us. Hey, can't make it terrible. My grain just woke up with it. Can't go right. It's like, well, that's kind of a bummer and like kind of a bummer of a start to the weekend because I don't give a fuck about yard sailing. I don't give a shit.
Starting point is 01:39:47 I'll just I'll go but I'll just stand there and just kind of be bored because I don't care about people's knickknacks. Yeah. I'm hanging out with folks that were hunting for their Transformers toys aggressively at garage sales means that I'm good with garage sales, I think forever. And so the day goes on and we have a great day and things are fine until about seven o'clock and my poor little guy is not doing so great. He's fussy when he isn't usually. He won't eat, which is normally not a problem. And we had just a really, really horrible time getting him to bed, which is really,
Starting point is 01:40:27 really out of, out of character for him, including having like a low grade fever, nothing crazy, nothing like hospital Lee, but like he's not feeling his best. And this really took a turn in the next morning when we received the follow-up text that that migraine was in fact COVID and the baby totally has COVID and I probably have COVID and Paige probably has COVID. And of note is that that early text message the migraine one Paged reached out was like, oh is it just a headache or is anything else? anything else going on and We were left on read for an entire day
Starting point is 01:41:26 So as a bonus despite it being pages day of truth and her birthday, Fancy Restaurant is out. The one that I planned for weeks to go to and all of our things. Apparently, our friend had cold symptoms in addition to her migraine, but didn't feel the need to put that into a text message, which would have been very helpful. So it seems like the current variant going around is significantly milder than the ones of previous years, which is a blessing and a curse because yay, it's nowhere near as bad as it was.
Starting point is 01:42:04 But also- Yeah, but it runs into this situation. Or not as like people are more willing to just take it and be like, oh, that's actually nothing. It's like, you mean like how that evening we all took a family trip to the grocery store? Wow. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, we did the due diligence. How are you feeling? Are you OK?
Starting point is 01:42:28 Is it just a headache and got nothing? So why would we immediately jump to the conclusion that? Oh, I mean, for what it's worth, you know, like it like in terms of the official protocols and stuff are basically just like, hey, how you feel? You're all right. All right. Whatever. Right. So it's at that level on it like officially. But then the other part is just like, you know, you we we did our due diligence and that that that's going to the grocery store could have been avoided. Right. Maybe not us getting sick or whatever. But seriously, you could have just you could have been avoided, right? Maybe not us getting sick or whatever. But
Starting point is 01:43:06 seriously, you could have just you could have just said extra words and things would be better. But dude, having a sick baby sucks. It's miserable because he's unhappy and there's not a whole lot you can do for him. Right? can you can change him you can rock him you can take him for walks You can you know try it but his head hurts it hurts But like yeah, you were saying of like yeah, it's milder. Yes. Yes, but that leads to oh, you know I just I'm just coming down with a little That's that's exactly the thing right it's The the the hit is going to be much less than it once was, but it's going to result in people being less like
Starting point is 01:43:54 fucking chill about that. And, you know, the thing is, is like, I mean, not everybody did it, I guess, but just like the the times when in the past, you're like, oh, I have the flu. I'm coming down with the flu or something. Now, let me not go into work to give that to people was a very normal, reasonable thing to say, you know. So anything that is like approaching that, you would hope that the person would start feeling something and be like, oh, let's just be on the safe side you know but yeah
Starting point is 01:44:27 that's uh... that fucking sucks man sorry to hear that. Yeah so uh... I'll put out a stream schedule for the week that stream schedule may be highly variable uh... depending on uh... how that goes uh... because right now i feel completely fine uh. And the only one that's really miserable is the baby. But who knows? I should also mention that like, you know, Paige has lupus. She has an autoimmune disorder. The friend knows that. They know that. So we're like, hey, you gotta be careful!
Starting point is 01:45:06 Immuno, Comprofise, the household! They're like, absolutely, I totally understand. You don't! You don't understand, actually! Ah. We're now in a world where, I mean, basically, everyone's playing on their own discretion. And some people's discretion sucks. It's also of note in terms of like how it's going in my neighborhood. I went to go down to get COVID tests and they're out.
Starting point is 01:45:35 Oh really? Huh. Yeah. They're super available more than usual around this side. But yeah, well, I guess my block is going through it or whatever um so it's not guaranteed but yeah we'll see uh so unfortunately Paige's birthday will have to be postponed and because we can't go to a restaurant get everybody sick I mean we could but we'd be fucking pricks to do so
Starting point is 01:46:09 Let's see what else I do this fucking week No, I have to go to the video producer to find it's so stupid. I think I think as well the current one. It's like a Lot of a lot of it's like three days, you know of Feeling shit as opposed to like ten, you know, or whatever. Like things are reduced in intensity and in length. So yeah. So Paige got a bunch of stuff, she got a bunch of these turmeric and lemon juice.
Starting point is 01:46:41 Turmeric, turmeric. Like things. And it was kind of goofy, because I'm like, I don't know, I'm feeling just a little elixir, potions. I was doing tumeric when I was getting my shit together. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But, so we had some, and I was like,
Starting point is 01:46:56 well, I don't, I didn't feel sick before, but I feel better now. Like, yeah, no, we should probably have more turmeric. Yeah, so fun fact, if you're getting on this train, because part of me as well, trying to do whatever like the health, weight loss, et cetera, was trying to get some better shit in my system. And turmeric was a part of that for sure. My mom is, as the fucking elixir home remedy lady that she is. She's always like, oh, you gotta grab some Moringa root and this and that and cider vinegar and honey and so on.
Starting point is 01:47:30 And there's a bunch of times where I'm like, what fucking conjuring bullshit are you coming up with? But then there's times where I'm like, oh my God, it actually works. And years ago, I talked about charcoal powder and how crazy and insane it is to have black powder poured into water. And you're like, really?
Starting point is 01:47:51 And it actually, in seconds, made you feel better? And I'm like, yeah, it's real. It's super duper real. That, right? With Sotumarik, in particular, it's like, yeah, you get your really, really spicy kind of like, you got to, you got to, it burns, you know, it's a, it's a basically like a, yeah, like a type of- It burns a little bit. Yeah, it's a bit of a curry that you're going to kind of like get burned with, but they have little, they have turmeric gummies that you can get that are actually pretty tasty, you know, it's a little gummy with a hint of that kick on it and it it's it's a it's a fucking it's candy. And it's like, oh, I actually kind of like having these in the morning,
Starting point is 01:48:27 you know, and stuff. So, yeah, if you can get your hands on some of those for your turmeric, that's a lot better because I was I was going to know it's like a health store that sold like shots. And it was like, oh, you can buy a round of shots for like a week or whatever. And those are just like literally like doubting a whiskey Like you're just like ah Afterwards so
Starting point is 01:48:51 Yeah, anyway consider, so What else of notes? Let me go back to that page Why can't I remember anything? Oh my god. Do you want to talk about visions of mana oh oh yeah that's that's you you how is that how was that fucking what's going on with that no no that's that's where that's at okay so visions of mana failed the like button test for me we're like I loaded it up and I walked forward and fought like an enemy for like 10 seconds and I was like I'm not going to do this damn it I want this feels like shit I
Starting point is 01:49:43 want to be sold on meta I I have told the story about how I have did not enjoy in the past. I bounced off hard I would love for there to be a sell point here. That sucks. Okay, so it feels like garbage responsive Just just just walk it around right away. Yeah. No, it's it's not responsive. It's super floaty. Nothing has any hit reaction Just It's not responsive. It's super floaty. Nothing has any hit reaction Just It's the worst demo you can you go out that death press try that demo Okay, and tell me that that feels like a fast responsive game and lie If you want, uh
Starting point is 01:50:20 You could do that. Let's see. I also played 45 minutes of a game called Click Holding. Have you seen Click Holding? Click Holding? Yeah, hold on, let me, before you look that up. Yeah. Let me get you the, let me get you the, the, the title of, of Click holding, shall I? Yeah, let me. Fissions of Man is $80. Yeah, bro.
Starting point is 01:50:51 So yeah, let me just get you this game title for you. And I'm gonna, you just get that logo burned right in your brain here. Ah, click holding. Yeah, it's about click holding yes yes click click holding yes the L and the I are very close together they are aren't they mm-hmm that font choice is very particular it's very deliberate you know what I'll just send you another screenshot Which is like 99% of the game's content the man in the corner of your hotel room wants you to click something
Starting point is 01:51:31 He wants to watch you click it So you just have one of those like I see like tally counters, okay You have to click with the spacebar or the mouse button So does this like start on like is the main menu just Craigslist or no the main menu is just like a very plain Okay And you get in there and he's like hey, do you want the money? We'll keep clicking and The game is to click it from zero to ten thousand But sometimes he'll tell you to stop clicking it
Starting point is 01:52:05 and go move to a different part of the room or have the heat turned on or off or open up the blinds or not look at him or definitely look at him while mashing the space bar. It's very uncomfortable. I did not like it. But the purpose is obviously very clear. That is to emulate you doing something for money that you don't want to do and The weird uncomfortable nonsense that those types of people are gonna engage with you Now this art style seems to show a Weird man with No real face. That's a mask by the way. Is it a man? I was okay. Okay, okay?
Starting point is 01:53:01 Gotcha. Gotcha. Is there is there a Superman outfit anywhere near the gate? No, I guess you're wearing it. First person. The moment that I went from, ugh, to oh, I get it, was when the dude starts talking about how, well, he used to click, but he can't click anymore and now he can't click it like you can click it. And I'm just like, and I had the moment in my head where I'm mashing on the base bar
Starting point is 01:53:34 as fast as I can. And I'm like, just shut up. I don't care about this. I just want to get it over with. And I was like, oh wow, you act, you implanted the emotion into that. Wow, good, oh, you did it. That was me playing neon white. And it's getting to the fucking,
Starting point is 01:54:00 like Yandere dialogue about her spinning in your mouth or whatever. And I'm just like, we need to just get to the next Mirror's Edge level, please. Please just get to the game. For the love of God. Yeah, 100%. Nailed it. This title needs to be typed out in all caps, I've noticed. It doesn't really work in lowercase. The game's about 40 minutes long. I know this because I set up my controller to have turbo. Wow. And that makes it go much faster.
Starting point is 01:54:40 So how did this end up on the list to begin with? Part of the wheel. Okay, All right The goal of which was to produce this outcome the goal the goal of which is to just throw Absolute nonsense. Yep into the into the stream. Yep Okay The person who recommended it Will never get to recommend anything else on that wheel ever again.
Starting point is 01:55:05 Is that how that works? That is not how it works. It's how it works now. I mean, you could always allow them to submit games to the wheel that you then never ever play and they're just forced to watch you never play them. Nah, nah, I'd be cheating. I'd be cheating. Well, but maybe they would enjoy the act of not playing or not being able to watch you play the game that they want.
Starting point is 01:55:39 Nah, the people who've been suggesting games have like paid in on those games. That would be like legitimately immoral. Yeah, it would. But unless the person was willing to pay to watch you not play the game that they want you to play, you see, they might actually enjoy the fact that they are putting money on the line and you're still not playing the game that they paid for. Oh My god, actually that did happen. I just realized somebody in the chat blast yo boots Pointed out that they kicked in a donation not to add it to the wheel
Starting point is 01:56:15 But just for me to go to the Steam page of a game look at it and go Oh my god, I'm not putting that on the fucking wheel And they were right I was I I saw it and I was like, I was like repulsed. It was a game about math. Oh, horrible. Terrible. So that's, that's it for me. This week's going to be dishonored. A couple indie games I'm thinking of the wheel and another react stream though. Those may change depending on if people in the household are violently incapacitorily ill. Hopefully not go down to twitch.tv slash pastares at.
Starting point is 01:57:05 I will gladly come up here a little sweaty, but not too sweaty. I mean, you can, you know, I guess it's pit stain check, right? Like that's the that's the level of if you're for me, it, is there literally a sweat droplet coming off the side of my face? Like that to me, that's like, this is too far. I will not. Okay. Cool. All right.
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Starting point is 02:05:23 your main characters. Kind of like how sometimes there's the main character of Twitter. Well, that doesn't really happen these days because the main character is forever Elon Musk from now on. But the main character of video games, at the very least this week is- Leave the election fraud on the side and get back to video games. Yeah. One CEO, Pete Parsons is...
Starting point is 02:05:48 Noted massive piece of shit. So it's funny because the first thing I had heard about this was that his tweet announcing the mass layoffs at Bungie on his page, the tweet underneath it was the exact same tweet from one year prior. With the other mass layoffs. So, you know, that's always a good sign. Second, is this the same guy who bought 2.3 million dollars of classic cars right before the last batch of layoffs? 25 cars. In fact, in fact, the cool thing,
Starting point is 02:06:27 those cars are so cool that you should come check them out. You should come to my place and see them. They're really, really cool cars, you guys. Is what he said two days before firing the people that he was flossingossing his his new cars too, so Yeah, there basically has been a mass layoff at Bungie. They've gone from 1300 employees to about 850
Starting point is 02:06:59 this includes restructuring around enough that Luke Smith, who's the former gameplay lead, I think, or director, and then the senior narrative guy and most of their music team are gone now. Lennon Of those who were fired, there's also about 155 others that are going to be moved to a new company within Sony To finish working on a codenamed project or so But yeah
Starting point is 02:07:33 It's a particularly this one's been you know all neat and tidy because in addition to the the shit like that where Sam Bartley who worked for Bungie came out afterwards and basically was explained that, yeah, you did this, you chose this, listed as do not work with and I don't care anymore. You invited me to see your new cars two days before you laid me off. So people are like going, Hey, CEO, fucking how about you leave? And a number of other people that were a part of that also are basically going,
Starting point is 02:08:13 there is shit that can't be discussed publicly. But this dude's a liar, a thief and so many other worse things that can't be said. This isn't on Sony. This is squarely on the failure of leadership, plain and simple, calling for Pete Parsons to step down. So let's go down the list of things that have happened here. So a year ago. People are talking about right away, like before we even know so people Bungee you're being interviewed under anonymity and they're saying yeah So, um, I don't know how the fuck anybody got three point six billion dollars for this company
Starting point is 02:08:56 We were never worth that much the only way That that would make any sense is if I don't know the CEO were telling Sony crazy-ass Impossible shit that was never going to happen and then people come out and go he was telling Sony crazy-ass impossible shit that was never going to happen and based off that crazy shit, Donnie made a deal with Bungie that said, Hey, you got to hit these targets or we'll kind of absorb you guys a
Starting point is 02:09:32 little bit because it would mean you don't know how to run your company. And we'll take over. And Pete goes, Oh, fuck, we're not going to hit those fucking targets. How can I make the number go up just enough to keep control over the company? I don't know how, layoffs. Now I know Sony just gave me, gave the company a payout specifically to avoid layoffs, but the only way to maintain control of Bungie is that if I take that layoff
Starting point is 02:10:07 payment money and then also lay people off, then it'll look like the company made just enough money so I could keep it for another year. And then- Cars. Cars. Question, question, question, Mark. Cars. And then more layoffs.
Starting point is 02:10:27 And then I think the part of this that's... Question. Hi. So, Diana Voyer, I believe, Bungie employee. Question, Pete. Have leadership considered taking pay cuts in order to prevent layout. We're not that kind of company Okay, we're just not that kind of company because you know if if the money came from the The people who are currently giving themselves bonus. We're not doing that and we're not we don't do that here
Starting point is 02:10:59 That's not that's not the way we do things. Okay. Gotcha. Thanks. All right And That's not the way we do things. Okay, gotcha. Thanks. All right. Cool. And so now we're here. So Beyond Light didn't do very well the last expansion. And so they got layoffs because they couldn't hit their numbers. Final Shape, despite all the pressure and the layoffs, Final Shape was received well, sold well, was kind of a slam dunk. You know all the pressure and the layoffs final shape was received. Well sold. Well Was kind of a slam dunk. Here's some more layoffs
Starting point is 02:11:31 and after this comes The the bungee statement explaining listen, we're super committed to destiny Going forward now We're no longer going to do expansions But we are gonna do bi-yearly content updates that are Going to be a little smaller now we won't commit to just how much smaller in anyway But I don't commit to just how much smaller in any way. But Destiny is basically over now.
Starting point is 02:12:15 Now the thing is is that, that's kind of what it fucking sounds like. Keeping the 850 employees around, if anything happens, Sony gets first option to Again reshuffle and move those people around as they are employees of Sony Mm-hmm behind being employees of bungee now remember Sony bought Bungee or did this deal because Sony ordered ten live service games and Bungie was supposed to be the torch
Starting point is 02:12:45 in the darkness that leads Sony's live service division. And then they canceled all of those except for I think Concord. And do you remember this was a long time ago, but I went on this little rant about how every game wants to be a games as a surface like destiny. Like in every interview, it's like, we want to be like destiny. We want to chase after destiny success. Like destiny was often name dropped.
Starting point is 02:13:14 Right. Okay. And I went on the podcast and we were talking and I was like, I don't think destiny makes any money. I think destiny is like, like actually a dismal failure because they always talk about development on that game like they're broke. There's never enough time and whatever. I was informed very angrily by people in the chat and on social media that actually Destiny
Starting point is 02:13:40 brings in tons of money and it's wildly successful for bungee and that the success of that is is worthy to chase Except for interviews that I've been seeing over the past week Where people are like, oh we were totally gonna go bankrupt if we didn't get that Sony deal We were on the verge of bankruptcy We're absolutely gonna go under if Sony didn't buy us We're absolutely going to go under if Sony didn't buy us. Yeah, so there's apparently a trail, because you can look at everything happening now and look back to a year ago and see how things went to see the exact same thing playing out 12 months later.
Starting point is 02:14:24 One of the details as well for the people who were fired a year ago was that they were given their three months' severance and their health benefits and such as part of their package. But anyone who received stock from the Sony purchase but has not yet vested it, apparently it just disappears and returns back to the company So there are stocks that are promised to these people who have been laid off that essentially are just being stolen back from them, so yeah, no the CEO is looting the company. He's literally just
Starting point is 02:15:02 Just just tearing the company into his own pocket So anybody who's are in the current round as well is equally getting fucked over By that element too. So yeah, that's the nature. I Would be surprised if Sony didn't Something with this because Sony got fucked on this. Like they horribly overpaid for a company. And then the company was like disintegrated by the guy they bought it from before they got it. But. Your honor, we were going to present evidence of all of his misdeeds, but then
Starting point is 02:15:49 he privated his account. Oh, did he? So we can't see it anymore. So we don't know. We can't. All the evidence is gone. It's... Yeah.
Starting point is 02:16:04 This is a particularly rough one in the sense that like the amount of people that are just like, yep, can't speak and DA's but make no mistake. This is on one dude. It's very clear who and it's the guy who's who's tweeting out pictures of his cars. That's the fucker. It don't even don't even think for a second. This is this is coming from Sony above, you know, there's a There's more in all of this of particular note So well that you're familiar with the term new player experience, right? Like the onboarding experience when you get into a gas game. So You remember when destiny vaulted like its first two years of stuff. Oh
Starting point is 02:16:51 That was like a taking down the shit that yeah, it took it down So now when you start the game you do like one mission and it just like drops you into the hub and just like goes go and it's one of the most Incomprehensible new player experiences ever. Like I've seen lots of people like download it for free and just go, what the fuck? I don't what? During all of this, it came out that internally they had one shot at redeveloping the onboarding and then they didn't work so they gave up.
Starting point is 02:17:30 And it just never came up again. And then later on in that interview, it's like, yeah, all of our players are much older now. All of our concurrent users are much older. So we really wanna make new properties that skew younger. And it's like they're older because it's the people who got in before you couldn't get in anymore. The people who play Destiny right now are the people who started playing Destiny back when you could start playing Destiny. Man.
Starting point is 02:18:03 This is just in terms of game legacy. It's just rough that it's like hey, how's halo doing? Okay, how's destiny? Okay, cool and marathon It's just like yo Yeah, that's that's a that is a fucking shame for a storied ass company That's a that's a that is a fucking shame for a storied ass company You know also so like maintenance mode for a long term game does not necessarily mean a bad thing Right FF 11 is out there in its maintenance mode and FF 11's just got a bunch of shit and people go I like to play FF 11 I got friends that jump on FF 11 every now and then right
Starting point is 02:18:41 It's got like 10 years of shit to fuck around with right the problem with destiny's Maintenance mode is that like they still never put back all that shit. They vaulted so like half the game is There's there's no semi-annual Whatever it's just it's just like do you hey? Destiny's going into maintenance mode Do you want to play the second half of destiny 2? Making weird oh fuck it stupid Yeah, so
Starting point is 02:19:17 Yeah, it seems as if you know No one can really make anything happen here except for I suppose Sony, depending on how this plays out with them. But something else that people are basically saying as well is just like, dude, get the fuck out. Because we all know you've got like he's got a golden parachute deal as well. And, you know, if you ever did choose to leave, he I mean, what he would get for it could buy a fuck ton of cars actually. It'd be incredible. It'd be great. Yeah, but what if I stole more money out of the company and then also got that golden car? That is how you do, that is how you get all the cars. It is true, you know.
Starting point is 02:19:59 Yeah. So good stuff. Good, good stuff happening over there. Good shit, Pete Parsons. Well done. Hey, you know what? Congratulations to Warframe. Under Rebecca Ford's stewardship, it continues to exist! Yeah! What a metric, huh? Remember the first time you saw that graphic with like the traveler? And I was like, oh, look at that cool thing. Cool.
Starting point is 02:20:37 That looks cool. Yeah. All right. Well, you know how, do you know how you actually? Find out what happened with the traveler in parts of that game that you didn't see anymore No, you have to go to Biff's YouTube channel and and and watch his like Vaati style or break downs Like it's literally the only way now Like it's literally the only way now.
Starting point is 02:21:12 I'm like, I'm half expecting you to be like the official like onboarding like tutorial. You would think- oh! You would think- Links to YouTube videos. You would think that the Destiny YouTube channel would have those? Oh my god. No. No. No. Wow. All right. Well, not just Bungie, but you know,
Starting point is 02:21:33 considering we're still resetting the clock over here. I just need, I need one more. I need one more. Okay, there's a character that they brought back to life in, I think think one expansion ago, in which every single thing in that character's story and his death and the guy that killed him are no longer available.
Starting point is 02:22:00 You just can't, you can't possibly know. No, you can't, it's gone. That's so insane, That's so insane. That's so insane. Oh! I'm being informed they put his death back in?! Oh, that's great. My mistake. Like, live service-
Starting point is 02:22:15 Oh my god. I mean... Like, is it because by vaulting all that stuff, it's not going to feel like do they want, excuse me, do they want new players to be like, oh, it's not as it's not that intimidating because there's like, I can't, I can't follow the logic here. Here's what actually happened when they made Destiny and Destiny 2 the first couple of years, they made it, their engine shit was very inefficient and they then since learned how to make levels a lot better
Starting point is 02:22:50 so they would take up less space and they'd be less buggy. So what they said is, hey, we're gonna make all these new things. And as we go forward, we're gonna vault that old stuff. And then when we have extra time after the ends of seasons, we're gonna go back and we're gonna spruce up that old stuff so that it runs better and is less buggy and then we're gonna reintegrate it into the game and then they have been on panic mode yes yes the
Starting point is 02:23:16 whole time so it's just never gonna come out. And so the bloated full file size with everything in it would be completely unrealistic for anyone to download. Yeah, that's supposedly. I see. I see. I remember when they were saying that, people were like, you're never gonna do that. Never. Never. were like, you're never going to do that. Never, never.
Starting point is 02:23:46 Also, I was informed by this chat while we were joking that Concord comes out in two weeks. Sure. I only mentioned that in this conversation because Concord is the shooter made by the Destiny 2 PVP team, which I should let you know that Destiny's PVP sucks and is bad. What is this? Concord?
Starting point is 02:24:17 Ah, team shooter. Yeah, it's like Guardians of the Galaxy, okay Boy I forgot yeah, did you know or did you forget? Uh I feel like we must we discussed this or Yeah, we did we did discuss this yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay, all right. So that's gonna die. Fuck. Oh, boy.
Starting point is 02:24:52 All right. Well, God bless. Now, the thing is too, as well, it's like, I was gonna say, like, with an ongoing live service game, you know, Final Fantasy 14 and World of Warcraft are all there and they have their but their infinity budgets behind them
Starting point is 02:25:11 So sure but yeah is Warframe not the direct like comparison point Direct comparison right with team space team size and scale and budget and everything like that They've had they had opposing strengths. So Destiny's shooting and its content was really solid and really tight, but content was really slow to come out and they would never let off the leash and let you really go for it and have fun. Warframe has so much content. It is so weird and spread
Starting point is 02:25:49 out and inconsistent and goofy to find. And they will let you get so overpowered that you can ruin the game for yourself. Okay. Like they are the opposite of each other. Well, you know, there was always that one, I think there's one dungeon or boss that's like super duper cool melee stuff that Esteban was telling me about that's like, there's the content that's worth seeing, but it's DLC that you have to get to after some time and whatever. What game are you talking about? Destiny. Apparently there's some sick boss that does some rad... There's a lot of cool bosses in that game. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:26:39 I mean, you would have to go at it for a while, and you'd be miserable. You'd be miserable. You'd be fucking miserable, like grinding out through Destiny. I played, you know, I bought the first one and put a bit of time in and then was like, yeah, this isn't for me, you know? It was just, it was a classic, like, I spent my money, I tried it out, did some stuff, didn't fully enjoy it
Starting point is 02:27:01 that much and never went back to it. Like, you know, not much else to say. Yeah. Hey, by the way, if you guys are sad about Destiny, probably on its way out and want something that feels similar to Destiny, I was sponsored by a game a long time ago, but I so heartily recommend it. It's called the last, no it's called, God what's it called, Remnant 2. You can get it for $32. It's fantastic. Highly recommend it. So in addition to Bungie as well with the resetting of the clock this time around something a bit more I suppose foreseeable, but still Game Informer magazine is shutting down the longest running gaming magazine in the US Would you like to say so you thought that this was foreseeable?
Starting point is 02:28:00 In the sense that it is a print magazine about video games in the year of our Lord 2024 would you like to know who didn't foresee this the people working at Game Informer? No, actually the people over at EA You see the Game Informer cover story with all the exclusive details and interviews about Dragon Age Veilguard? That's never going to come out. They have. There's a bunch of stuff that was meant to be revealed that.
Starting point is 02:28:40 Yeah, that was the big part of their marketing campaign was like look we're on the front page of Game Informer Well, the Dragon Age Twitter links to art to like web pages that no longer exists I mean, okay It couldn't how how big of a part could it have been given that this is where Game Informer is currently at right? Like I remember I remember like they would have these really awesome covers over the years. They'd be these really beautiful, you know, like just they'd get like original renders in some cases from from the companies to just print out shit that official art that you wouldn't see elsewhere, I guess, you know, and that that that's kind of the standout to me. And yeah, I think I grabbed a few from a multi-MAGs every now and then or wherever, but I mean,
Starting point is 02:29:34 it really was just like the most niche specialty kind of thing though, right, to be collecting, I guess, a print magazine. Well, so I mean, luckily enough. We can, you know, we can go back and read some of that content and those interviews and see some of that art on Game Informer's website about that. It kind of just links up to GameStop. Oh, that website is gone. It's been deleted.
Starting point is 02:30:01 to GameStop. Oh, that website is gone. It's been deleted. Every single article Game Informer ever wrote or video content ever in the history of the magazine is all gone. Are you saying that is all gone, that it's been completely reduced to atoms for no reason?
Starting point is 02:30:22 We held shift as we as we dragged it to the recycle bin. Okay. Well, at least one of the editors was able to get a hold of the Twitter and put out a statement about how proud they were to work there and how proud they are of the magazine. And I'm now seeing that once that message went out, the people behind the account deleted the account. Oh my God. Okay, so Shot, our 33 year legacy deserves a genuine goodbye written by a former game informer member.
Starting point is 02:31:01 We're heartbroken by the shutdown of our publication and we leave with pride knowing we poured everything we had into it. In the words of our editor in chief, be well, play well, and then a link to the credits of the people who worked on it. Immediately followed by this account does not exist. That's just, why, like why, like why the time cop fucking putty, you never existed? Do you want the cherry on top?
Starting point is 02:31:33 Please. 4 53 p.m. July 29th 2024 GameStop at GameStop responds to the Xbox 360 store has officially shut down with the phrase bet y'all wish you bought physical copies now Yeah, yeah, okay, okay, okay got it. Hey everybody fuck you. How about that? each shit No, no legacy whatsoever. Gone forever. Cool. That's great. Um, I talked about this at length on my stream when it came out. We wanted to talk about it and I was like, GameStop is going to be on its way out. And it's crazy because literally all GameStop had to do as a specialty games retailer is
Starting point is 02:32:25 not be the worst place I have ever shopped in my life every time I go in there. Like that's it. They could even be terrible, but literally the worst place I have ever had to shop ever in my life every time I went in there. Like, I, my mind was made up halfway around the time they were opening up my game and taking shit out that was promotional and intended for me the buyer and or taking out the cartridge and then replacing it in the box to give it to me at the cash, and then lying about when shit was coming out
Starting point is 02:33:08 and the prices. For me, it was two things. One was watching you lose your mind trying to get that copy of King of Fighters XI. That, like, I wasn't even in that story and I felt it. It just, it became the principle. It became the principle. Like around the fourth or fifth time you walk in
Starting point is 02:33:32 and the guy sees you, you know that you're like, we're just, we're just doing this. We're going through the motions. I know what you're gonna say. I'm gonna ask, you're gonna lie. You're gonna stare, we're gonna stare at each other for a couple seconds and then I'll be like all right I'll see I'll see you tomorrow you know like we're just we're gonna play this dance the other the other one
Starting point is 02:33:51 is grabbing the thing was portrait of ruin buying portrait of ruin brand new the day it came out and slapping it into my DS and having a fucking clear save sitting there on the fucking cart. That's the one. That's the one. And being like, right, right, right. Mm hmm. What?
Starting point is 02:34:15 You can't? So you can't delete this. Whoever did it was like, oh shit, fuck it. But like. Yeah. The very concept of like having something sealed in the box, which they have a fucking Xbox seal on the disc, there's the sticker on the Nintendo cartridge, like the boxes have a seal and like you cannot, everything you are buying is used right away because fuck you, we open it up and we separate what's in there and we decide what you're allowed
Starting point is 02:34:44 to get. And if we think that you should not be getting a digital copy of Deus Ex, Human Revolution, then we're going to take it from you and literally just steal it and not give it to you. So I remember there were some games that wouldn't happen too. And I remember, cause I would go down there and sometimes you'd see like the shipment come in and certain companies were super crazy about street date. And so the pallets would come in and they would be packed differently.
Starting point is 02:35:20 So like Halo, I remember seeing Halo 3 come in and Halo 3, the whole pallet was in cellophane and like do not open before this day. Okay. And like under what I assume was some form of like legal threat. Right. Yeah. sealed. Yeah, well, you know, I mean, we can discuss all of these little irksome tales as if they weren't also being like, hey, employees during the fucking pandemic, go die, please. And stay open, even though the cops are shutting you down and kicking you out of the ball. But die though. Fight the cops to keep it open. It's launch day and we need to be open on launch day. Like we can't like, we know we just casually, you know, ignoring the part where that happened for a while.
Starting point is 02:36:17 You know? You know what? I look back and I can pinpoint the exact moment that I was like, I don't think I'm ever gonna come into the store ever again. And I would occasionally do so if I needed a controller and then would leave without the controller because buying it was so miserable.
Starting point is 02:36:37 Like you ever get 10 minutes in the purchase and you're like, I've been here for 10 minutes. I'm at the front and we're just talking about warrants. Just walk. I just walk away. Right. But the moment, the moment that it broke, I forget what I was buying a Call of Duty game. I don't remember which one. And it was one of those open like four copies. And I was like, can I have a new one please? And he's like, it is new. I'm like one that's sealed in the thing And he goes well, I can I can reseal it for you with the machine in the back if you want And I'm like yeah Okay one one you are treating me like a
Starting point is 02:37:20 Stupid child like the only reason I want that is so I can tear it open. And two, oh, so every single copy in here, even the ones that are sealed are now devalued. Okay, bye. It's all wise. It's a million percent, you know. But hey, if you ever needed an emergency amount of Funko Pops to bury yourself in and die underneath, they've got you covered. So, you know, just make sure that you keep that handy if you need to go buy like 3000 Funkos in one shot. Like I described it when I was talking about on my stream, I was like, I found out that, so you remember where the EB games is and where the the best buy I mean, you still have them on trail. They're right there. I don't know if the best buy is still there though
Starting point is 02:38:09 I discovered it was faster for me to go to the McGill metro station and walk all the way to the Best Buy grab the the the controller off the shelf and go through Best Buy's line and buy it, then go to the EB, which is like multiple blocks closer, and try and buy the controller because of the amount of time you have to spend the cash saying no to their bullshit. It's like legitimately faster to go multiple blocks out of my way. Yeah, no. The Sqwenex offices were not too far from there back then. And it was just like, you have a shorter trip to the EB
Starting point is 02:38:52 or to the GameStop. But like, fuck that. I just go to the Best Buy. You might as well. And it's crazy because for the longest while, it was like, why would you go to the, you know, it's like going to the Walmart gaming section, it's gonna be terrible, it's gonna be, you know,
Starting point is 02:39:10 like half the shit that's gonna be there is. Yeah, and I don't try and grab my dick and milk it for money when I go in. It's just, you know, that awful little hut that was there in the corner is now preferable, and it's like, yeah, I guess you can just go in and get the game game and guess what? It's actually inside one of these plastic fucking things.
Starting point is 02:39:28 They open that up and here you go, it's sealed. It's a new copy. You ever try and get there and they ask you in that condescending tone if you pre-ordered and then they still don't have it for you? Yes. Why did you even ask me good don't have any great stuff oh funny thing about that that that that
Starting point is 02:40:02 Best Buy downtown is a computers Canada opened up right next to it So if for any reason you need to buy anything if you if you're like, I gotta go buy an $80 HDMI cable you can just stop at the computers Canada first and see if they have something like Like a $3 perhaps a $5 HDMI cable Like a three dollar perhaps a five dollar HD of my cable You know but anyway yeah there you go fuck the legacy of game informer digitally entirely It's all gone forever and the goodbye message itself was shot out of the sky so cool
Starting point is 02:40:40 Perhaps somebody out there has a bunch of PDFs that'll show up on archive.org or something. You know, I have a sinking suspicion that'll probably happen. We got somebody in the chat says, I was working at GameStop and my manager sold the copy of a game I had pre-ordered. Oh, hell yeah. Sick. Why are you- You're not a human. That's like one of the only perks! You're not a person.
Starting point is 02:41:02 Is you get first dibs! Why would you think you're a person? You not like fuck out of here no hello good stuff Alright So beyond all of that, we got some updates to an old story. So to pull back the old don't name your kids Khaleesi bit from every year since 1992. Um, a child of six years old named Khaleesi was unable to be issued a passport because the passport authority said
Starting point is 02:42:00 Warner Brothers has to give permission as it owns the trademark to the name. Now, to be fair to the stupid family, they are like, Khaleesi's on her birth certificate. Why the hell would the passport problem to which the passport authority then apologized for the error? But it screwed up their trip. They couldn't go. They were supposed to go on holiday together and then they, yes, they were turned, they were turned down and the kid couldn't go to Disney because yeah,
Starting point is 02:42:33 they literally said no, Warner Brothers has to approve the usage of your child's name. Good job. So they straightened it out, but they couldn't go on their trip. And, you know, it turns out WB does not have to allow the child to exist. So, you know, that's good. Yes, they did eventually get their license for that name. They did. But yeah, I just think we continue to reiterate that if you're gonna...
Starting point is 02:43:07 Khaleesi, it's pronounced soccer. Like if you're gonna go with a really nerdy reference name of some kind and you've completely and you've tricked your partner into something, just give your kid the out so that there's a normal name they can use inside of that maybe for short or something. Give them a chance. Don't give them no chance whatsoever. And I say this delicately because there are extremely high odds that people listening
Starting point is 02:43:42 to this are in the category of people who have or are considering using game or movie or media reference names for their kids. So I know, and we might already be past that point. So I'm, I say this with the thickest kid gloves ever. Just give, give the child an out in the form of a nickname of some kind, an option select if you would, you know? So when Paige and I were trying to think of names for the boy, Paige in particular was going through heaven and high earth, all sorts of databases, but she found the Reddit for name nerds, which is the baby naming subreddit. Yes. And discovered through that, what might've been the greatest,
Starting point is 02:44:34 am I the asshole short story ever posted? Oh, are we talking about young baby Karen? We are talking, fucking God damn it. We are talking about baby Karen. It's famous, it's a baby Karen. It's famous. It's a famous story. It's a it's a famous subreddit story at this point. It is for anyone who doesn't know you should go look it up. But it is a sister trying to convince her sister not to name the her new baby Karen and that it will be a problem and the year by year breakdown of it becoming a massive,
Starting point is 02:45:07 massive problem. I mean, your bullet point takeaways essentially are that the family is so offline and they have no idea what has happened to the name and they just are insistent and this is before the kid's born and the sister is really trying to delicately explain to them that this is a name that doesn't mean the same thing anymore. It's terrible. It's going to be a rough life for the kid, just don't commit to this. And they're like, not just saying no,
Starting point is 02:45:35 but aggressively being like, fuck you, sister. Why are you trying to fuck up our baby's name? Why are you saying all these horrible things? Why can't you just be cool and not just be this huge bitch, right? And the mother and the sister and the family are just aggressively shutting it down. You know? And then yeah, of course, you fast forward and it's like they start to get the inklings as people are like kind of smirking and laughing and like... People at the kids' daycare are like cracking the wine.king and laughing and like. People at the kids daycare.
Starting point is 02:46:05 Right. Are like cracking wine. Tee hee hee and they're. And the baby. And they're like, oh, oh, something's going wrong, right? And then I think it's like two or three years past to the point where like the kid is like, yeah, like getting into that exactly,
Starting point is 02:46:21 like they're fully in the daycare and like it has come down heavy and like the kids being almost like teased and like it's just coming up constantly. So she's going by a nickname at the daycare, right? But the kicker, the bullet is when they went on a trip and the guy at the airport checking the kid's passport literally turns to the other guy in the booth and goes get a load of this and this second guy looks at it and goes oh poor kid
Starting point is 02:46:59 right there's an actual like there's isn't there an actual joke on on fucking Unbreakable Kimmy Schmidt where it's like who names a baby Karen, right? It's insane. It's an insane So anyway, um, they you know, I'm like we've talked about how as well the baby name registrar It's like it went to zero in Canada last year, right? So so, um the family the mom, the mom and the mom, the grandmother and the mother now come back to the sister, the OP, the sister, and go, why didn't you tell us how bad this was? And she's like, I fucking told you.
Starting point is 02:47:40 I tried really hard. And you almost got iced out from the whole family And you all shit on me for trying to tell you I fucking tried to tell you and they're like, yeah Well, you should have tried harder Like oh my god, like it's it's that that's the part where I'm like, I'm nuclear. I'm wild I like I hate like we were driving somewhere This was back before the little guy was born and we were talking about this for hours because we couldn't get enough of
Starting point is 02:48:11 it and we were like sitting around going like, is there a boy's name that is as tainted as baby Karen's and the only thing we could come up with was Adolf Like straight like real like yeah. Yeah. Yeah, but yes, this is this is clear. This is true 100% Chad is also kind of like fucked in this current way Tyrone is not doing too. Well, you know, but Tyrone, but there is a whole category for the other things like the Aiden's, Jaden's, Braden's, Zaden's, Kaden's and so on. And so you have your baby name, like subreddit, right?
Starting point is 02:48:59 That you mentioned. There's another subreddit called Tragedy. And I don't know if you're familiar with this one, but that's, let me, you gotta- I'm gonna type something to you now. Okay, because you have to spell this one correctly, right? This is T-R-A-G-I-D-E-I-G-H. Tragedy is a subreddit dedicated to people going, oh dear god, oh dear god, it's the
Starting point is 02:49:42 name and the spelling. That's fucking crazy, by the way. That's that's fucking nuts That is that is that is some Wow That sucks That's really so that sucks to hear But yes people who People with no awareness naming their kids these horrible things and then the alternate spellings and such. And it's a discussion about all of that. And it's great.
Starting point is 02:50:10 It's fucking wonderful because it's people that are just like hyper aware, being essentially the sister in that story, you know, encountering in the wild or talking to people they know about their decisions to be creative with the naming of just awful, awful things that are going to haunt the kids forever. I'm glad that white people have decided to democratize the alienating experience for their children of creating names that no one will ever be able to pronounce on the first try. Like, way to, way to like really just like spread that horrible feeling around. Oh, man. It's just, it's like, you can't, it's a back and forth. You don't know what you and your partner are gonna have to come up with and agree on and so on.
Starting point is 02:51:07 And you know, you're probably gonna, anyway, there's a lot to consider, right? But just whatever it is, just give the kid an out from your own bullshit and your partner's bullshit. Like, whatever you try to impose, if the child wants nothing to do with any of that Give them the opportunity to abbreviate or use a version of it that completely Cuts the tumor of your bullshit out because I they might hate it one of the funniest parts of
Starting point is 02:51:42 Going through names with the wife was we went through because you know we didn't know right away of boy or girl so we're going through girl names and I think Paige fired off maybe 2000 girl names at me and I think I might have shot down 1900 of them with the same phrase which is, that sounds like a hooker's name. Just like, literally conversations lasting over an hour, where that is the only thing I have to say the whole time, which would always lead to her going, what the fuck? You can't know. It can't be. Is it a car? Is it a watch? Is it an object? Is it a physical luxury object? You know?
Starting point is 02:52:38 And then- Is it a concept? Then you run into the absolute worst but most fun part of naming your child is what about this name I really like that name well I knew a guy with that name yeah asshole yeah run down that list and discover there are like a hundred people living in your head as like I knew a guy with that name and they're an asshole and they're the only person you ever knew that had that name and so it's tainted forever yep even if it's a nice one you know yeah and then I knew a guy with that name and they're an asshole. And they're the only person you ever knew that had that name.
Starting point is 02:53:05 And so it's tainted forever. Yep, even if it's a nice one, you know. Yeah, and then there are, you know how there are like, oh, I forgot what the name of it is, but it's like theories about like, certain people look a certain way and thus they kind of like become that energy of the person they look like.
Starting point is 02:53:22 There's a whole name for that or whatever, but it's also a thing with names too, where it's like if you have a name that will- Oh, it changes your personality to some degree. Exactly, right? To which, you know, I think I've said it before, but it's all like, we all know a chastity. Yeah. Anyone named after a virtue will become the opposite of that virtue. We all know what's up. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 02:53:49 So you know, anyway, just, you know, if you're going, if you're going, if you're going Game of Thrones, don't wait for the show to end. Wait for the media to end if you're going with the media. You know, but yeah. Somebody in the chat. Don't forget Jessica. Jessica's are so cursed. I mean it but Jessica was it was the most popular name circa 94.
Starting point is 02:54:19 I think it was one of them. I've never met with psycho percent and I think right after that was Rachel because of Friends and then immediately after that. Yeah, so I think the fun thing is like we make fun of Khaleesi, but like it's always been like- It's always media. It's always media. Yeah. Just fantasy or sci-fi media was a little newer to be super mainstream.
Starting point is 02:54:43 Yeah. So like it kind of flew under the radar. It went to Rachel because of friends. And immediately after that was Isabella because of Twilight. Yeah. So it's it and going back to the 60s, it's always been media. You know, anyways, look forward to baby millennia anytime now. Oh, God.
Starting point is 02:55:09 Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. There's Yeah. Yeah. There's just I mean, I we've gotten I've heard from we got an email some time ago about someone who worked in a classroom with a baby Sora and Riku, you know? Oh, man, that reminds me. This is a different Reddit thing, but it was somebody on Name Nerds getting mad and asking if they had made the right decision because from one of their favorite TV shows, they decided to name their twin boys after these characters, only to discover much, much later in life
Starting point is 02:55:52 that these characters are actually gay for each other. And then you're reading and you're like, please don't be Aziraphale and Crowley. And sure enough, sure enough, it's like you need to pay attention from Good Omens. You need to pay attention to the media you're consuming because that shit was on the wall. It was not hard. You could almost get away with like, oh, I like the sound of this one name, right?
Starting point is 02:56:28 Oh, that's interesting. But if you're going both, it's like, no, there was no mistaking this. This is this is deliberate and true. Um, all right. Well, anyway, um, speaking of baby, Hoara Lu and baby Radahn. Speaking of. So there's that been the last interview that to Miyazaki did he was talking about how they're like his dream.
Starting point is 02:56:56 Elden Ring is still not his dream game, but they're getting close. Thank God this one, recent interview, Elden Ring is the limit for From Software's project scale. Multiple smaller games may be the next stage. Yeah, no shit. Yeah. Well, yes, but people need to hear this. Do you know? Like, people need to hear it from his mouth because, like,
Starting point is 02:57:30 there's just an, an, an, there's player expectations are, oh, what I just got, but again, but now always this forever because I don't care about reasonable logistics and the concept of the scale of what we just got. We play video games as part of our professional careers and Elden Ring is exhaustingly huge. The idea that, oh cool, Elden Ring is now the new baseline and everything is going to be here on out and it's like God that's so ridiculous people need to hear this right and also yes an armored core coming out and being a normal video game also helps as well but if they can execute you know different concepts and give them the proper amount of treatment and
Starting point is 02:58:28 keep things tight by going back to a teensy whittled game the size of I don't know, Bloodborne by relative comparison, that would be great. That would be wonderful. But yeah, I don't know man, I just You roll by a dream cast wishpost for Marvel for or something and it's like literally just like there are about 300 characters squished into a Photoshop versus each other.
Starting point is 02:59:05 And I'm just like, like, yeah, like I, if you want a JPEG to fly out and then just shout the name of the character and then jump back in, then okay, sure. You know, if you're down with fucking US agents and it's just a JPEG slamming into the other one and nothing, and then that's it. And then it's gone and the life bar depletes then then yeah we can do that we can do as many as you want forever.
Starting point is 02:59:32 But no if he's talking about a game that's going to be taking things towards his dream game and they have other small scale projects that's awesome because that means they can get more concepts out as well. You want to hear a funny different opinion on this? Sure. So when Sven over at Larian was asked about what's next for the Baldur's Gate 3 team at Larian, the next game will be even more ambitious and bigger. And then later said, well, it's not going to dwarf Baldur's Gate three though. That's that's as much as they're willing to commit to that. And it's like that. That's still ridiculous. I like it. There's only two types of people playing
Starting point is 03:00:23 Baldur's Gate. Those that have beaten it 14 times, I see you in the chat, and people who got to act three multiple times and started over. Now, I don't know, this is just a guess here, but we don't know exactly how much George RR Martin is doing in terms? In terms of Elden Ring. But clearly there's a whole layout of the stuff that was planned. Oh, he banged it out on a napkin in 25 minutes. And when they were shocked that he did it so fast,
Starting point is 03:00:53 he's like, oh yeah, I could do it if I wanted to. But I kind of, I'm like, if they weren't, like if you're going to attempt something, if you're going to make like Elden Ring as a reference point for scale for a future setting, and you're like, yep, this is where we this is where we're going to start from now on. It's going to be this big. I kind of imagine you would also have to work with someone that is like a George
Starting point is 03:01:14 R.R. Martin that can oversee that narrative. And you know what I mean? Like, I don't know that treating it the way that they have up until that point with their smaller games would be even a possibility. When you get to this fucking insane scale that Elden Ring is at, you'd have to get another author or someone that can handle it at that scale and that size. I have an image in my mind of George R. R. Martin inside like an office building with a whiteboard and he just writes J R R M.
Starting point is 03:01:43 G R R M. And they start filling in random names and everyone's going OOF! They start popping off. Everything's connecting to the G's That's crazy! Yeah. Pog it out. Um. That is up. And then, um, yeah just a fun one over here. The, uh, so the the the rumor mill on Half-Life 3. Fuck off.
Starting point is 03:02:16 Rollin' around. Natasha Shandel, an actor, has, uh, who did some narration work for a couple other game projects is had her website get fucking downed from exceeded bandwidth because she updated her reference sheet to list Valve's project White Sands as something that she worked on. And folks have been saying that, what could it be? And it's like, well, she did voiceover for Project White Sands, a video game from Valve, and White Sands is a park in New Mexico, the state where Black Mesa is. So... Black Mesa is so and then it was updated and removed as well so you know it's really funny I'm on I'm on deadlock the games public subreddit a game which doesn't exist according to valve and all that footage
Starting point is 03:03:27 is out there. Oh, the shooter, the teams, their team shooter. Yeah, the on foot mower. Like I watched a ton of footage for it. I watched them. Yeah. And somebody reached out to me and was like, Hey, do you want me to keep your name open for the invite?
Starting point is 03:03:43 I'm like, yeah, sure. I don't care. Like, I got that. I got that message. VALVET SUCKS at keeping secrets. They are bad at that. I remember looking at some of that footage and seeing him being like, oh, okay. And then yeah, there's a similar message as well about like, oh, yeah, maybe checking it out My brain is fucking rivals pills At this point, so I mean
Starting point is 03:04:15 It's gonna have to it's gonna have to do some things, you know But Yeah, anyway, so, you know Half-Life 3 Super duper confirmed for real, for real this time for sure. This one I don't really know. I haven't had a chance to actually like check it out but a project popped up, a game popped up on Steam called Ao Tenjo, Ao Tenjo and it's A-O-T-E a OT and J.O. and when you take a seat when you seize it can you can you see you can you see what you're It's like super duper identical, but it's with Mahjong. And you know, I mean, now that I've-
Starting point is 03:05:13 Oh my God, I'm watching the animated GIF on the page where the score is being tallied up. Like, wow, it is exactly the same. So there's a demo. I haven't tried it yet, so I'm not too sure, but a recent foray into Mahjong on Yakuza 0 LP has cemented me as the god of Mahjong, after all. Yeah, that's true.
Starting point is 03:05:36 I, as someone who does crotch it with my pawn, I'll have to take a look at this and see. My pawn I'll have to take a look at this and see You know I mean look there's room for another game to create a fun roguelike You know feels a little It's the exact same Visual style font and everything but you know yeah this is a little derogatory little see what's going on we'll see what's going on and I I mean I'm sure in
Starting point is 03:06:14 development in it much like the vampire survivors into vampire survivor clones like timeline we have not yet seen the balutro clones hit full speed. You know what's wild about vampire survivors and all of its clones? There's still none that are like better than vampire survivors at all. Like it's still like when I want a vampire survive, I just boot up vampire survivors. Yeah some of the others had some high points. There's some interesting stuff. But after giving them a lot of them a shake, I agreed Vampire Survivors is the best one. And then adding the extra modes and shit was cherry on top regardless.
Starting point is 03:06:57 I wish I could talk to somebody who says holo cure but isn't just horribly Vtuber-pilled. Because then I would get a real opinion because I can't separate it. You know, like every single person that says like Holocure is definitely excellent. It's right, yeah it's good, it's good. But every single person that recommends it is like and all your favorite characters. I don't know who these people are. Yeah. It's good. It's not better. You know, and I same thing for my torment of something or I forgot what it's called. Paul's torment. Yeah. Yeah. The Diablo one. It was very good. It's just it's not better. So anyway, um, only other thing I throw up there is Final Fantasy
Starting point is 03:07:52 7 remake trilogy finale news. Queen's Blood is getting revamped and will be even better. Yeah okay so I'm torn because Queen's Blood is very good. Queen's Blood is excellent. However, in the FF seven integrated DLC, Condor Tower was excellent. And then when they put it into re rebirth, they decided, you know, it'd be great if we ruined Condor Tower. That's true. You said it gets worse. So hopefully when they say better they mean better instead of much worse.
Starting point is 03:08:36 What was the problem with the changes again? Condor Tower went from buy units and build your entire set of units in Condor Tower against, you know, set stages to pick preset unit packages. The whole deck, the whole group was all one shot. You couldn't customize. And they were bad. Okay, okay. Yeah.
Starting point is 03:09:03 So like by trying to make it simpler, they made it way harder. Yeah, that sucks. Picking out your units individually and finding which ones felt better and stuff was fun. Yeah. Okay, well, I mean, starting at a good point here. So all right, let's take some letters. If you want to send in a letter, send it to castlesuperbeastmail.com. That's castlesuperbeastmail.com.
Starting point is 03:09:32 Here's one coming in. And I'm giving greetings from Pat and Woolly. Oh, actually this is from Axe from Michigan. Says, I was watching some metaphor refantasio footage and getting excited. But then my excited cooled after I remembered it was an Atlus game. For the past decade, every game from Atlus has gotten a better version released with more story and gameplay improvements just a few years later. It gets a new subtitle, a new waifu character, and it's full price.
Starting point is 03:10:03 This includes mainline persona and SMT, most recently being Vengeance. Atlas being Atlas does not offer any upgrade path and makes it so that you have to buy it again at full price. How do you feel about this situation and are there any publisher developers that you feel are so burnt on financially that you won't go back? Great question. Before we even go into how we feel about it, they have done interviews about Fantasio and they know and they have said that vengeance is the last one of those they are going to do. They're going to be going the DLC route from now on.
Starting point is 03:10:37 There you go, right? Because you are 100% justified in feeling that concern. It's absolute bullshit that happens every single time you are 100% justified in feeling that concern. It's absolute bullshit that happens every single time and is otherwise guaranteed. The thing with this is it's not even like, hey, don't make those updates or whatever. I expect that that's what they do and you get more, the fact that you can't have
Starting point is 03:11:02 an upgrade path is just greedy. There's no two ways about that. The re-release, I expect, the inability to buy a way to integrate it off of your base version is an absolute fuck you, every time. And we know this because we play fighting games. Yeah. No, it's insane. And you know, like the, whatever, like if you have, I mean, it being integrated deep into the game
Starting point is 03:11:29 versus as a separate mode or whatever, like Vengeance has it as a separate mode. I do like that, that's nice. It's distinguished in that way. But yeah, no, like I actively never went to Royale, and I don't know that I will. Like I maybe, maybe one day, but I really just don't feel it
Starting point is 03:11:46 Because I just don't want to do all that again and like you know what you know what this weird thing because they did make It better. I played a bunch of Royale, and it's great um Like I Was playing and I fell off it because like the new stuff they added is legitimately fantastic like playing pool with a catchy rules But you still have to go through all the the boring parts that you remember from last time and you're like If they say that that's the that that Metaphor is only gonna have DLC then that's great We'll have to see if that only applies to the franchise metaphor or if that is a actual
Starting point is 03:12:28 universal thing. Because a Persona game that comes out from here on out might still fucking eat that shit. We'll see if they're fucking lying or not. In terms of what they have said, they have never said we're not going to put out another version of it until now. And for Persona 3 Reload, they're putting out the answer as DLC. So they have started that process already. The way it generally comes across though is like, hey, the Atlas first release of something,
Starting point is 03:13:06 you're buying the early access version, essentially. You're buying in because you want to check it out now and you know that there's that coming down the line, but you're paying for not wanting to wait. It's stupid. It fucking sucks. You know what's crazy is they always manage to wait just until you started it to announce the next version. Like, hey, you know, it took a couple of years
Starting point is 03:13:34 but you're finally gonna get ahold of Persona 4. Hey, Golden's coming. Stop playing that right now. So I had a version of this happen. It's not quite the same, but it is the same level of frustration. So Pathfinder Wrath of the Righteous is a big old CRPG and it's super, super cool. And I really like it. And it's very complicated. And I played it off and on for a hundred hours, but I've never made much progress because it's very complicated. But the other problem is that they made it. They put out a season of DLC, right? And I said, you know what? CRPGs, they tend to be very buggy. I'm going to wait until that first
Starting point is 03:14:13 season of DLC is over and then I'll start. And then they announced the second season Okay, so wrath of the righteous came out in fucking September of 21. They just put out what is the equivalent of their citadel DLC three weeks in June. Right. That that's a bit. That's a while. Jesus Christ. But then I'm reading, I'm going into the season past two thing and the final update for what's it called? Dance or whatever. And the very last line in that update is, don't worry. There's more to come. And I'm like, stop. Yeah, right, right, right.
Starting point is 03:15:12 Stop. Fuck. Literally stop. Man, because it's a mix of like side campaigns and we actually totally integrated this into the main story. The funny bit is like, you know, hey, with SMT and, you know, like, okay, so yeah, they they're dropping vengeance and it's like, please make it so that you offer an upgrade path so that someone who bought the base version can just up into download this for the cheaper version
Starting point is 03:15:45 And then it'll upgrade their base game and it'll be great and whatever. It's like cool. All right, here you go Would you like to download this upgrade path for your switch copy of SMT five? Fuck? No Give me that shit on fucking steam baby. Like what are we doing? You know if if you're also freeing the game from the console it was on you know there is there's something to that I will give you a little bit more leeway the golden is is is Vita exclusive at the end of the day you know but yeah like I would definitely like like as much as I want that to be available,
Starting point is 03:16:26 there is no chance in hell I would have gotten that for anything not for Steam, mind you. Absolutely not. Yeah, I mean, again, we did our fucking sponsored thing for it, so that's nice, but it's like, hey, what do you want them to, just give me the fucking Steam code. What are we talking about?
Starting point is 03:16:41 No, I'm not going back on Switch for that. Golden was ported to PC later, y'all, right? It was Vita exclusive when it launched, right, for years? It was Vita exclusive later. Yeah, yeah, talking about that. You know what? I think I might be safe. I think that update might have actually been referring to some other fucking because they
Starting point is 03:17:06 announced that their DLC would have full voice acting after that. Don't worry. There's still more surprises to come. So hopefully that means they're done with that season. Stop it. Stop. Stop. You can only play CRPGs properly like three years after the last patch.
Starting point is 03:17:28 So stop. Just stop. Is that is that the time frame? Yeah. Okay. No. But like, like genuinely like the, the types of games are like so buggy that like you kind of want to always wait until after the last DLC is out and then like maybe six months. I mean, dude, I can barely grasp this concept of like, hey, this game you were excited for just came out. Don't play it. Wait for the fan mods to come in and fix the problems. I mean, a really good example is Baldur's Gate three. Baldur's Gate three is a dramatically better game than it was one year ago. And that was all just patches.
Starting point is 03:18:03 Right. And it was already a great game. Incredible. Yeah. All right. And that was all just patches. Right. And it was already a great game. Incredible. Yeah. All right. And let's take one more here from Nick. Hey, Pat and Willie. It's me, Nick.
Starting point is 03:18:12 Hello. Hi, Nick. On the last podcast when Willie was talking about the Chinese nuclear reactor WhatsApp fake news and then later the mention of genius Kajumbo, it got me to remember the times when Kojima falsely was used for some fake media rumblings. Maybe the most famous one was a French politician using his Instagram post to illustrate Shinzo Abe's killer, but one curious case was a chain of WhatsApp messages in the year of
Starting point is 03:18:37 release of Death Stranding down here in Brazil. Said chain of messages reported that the biomedicine researcher Dr. Hideo Kojima was successful in mass producing genetically modified babies and artificial wombs in order to supply Japan's low birth rate with approximately 3,000 babies in development and assigned future for future work in factories across the globe. What other bizarre fake new messages come to mind for you guys and there's a picture there. That's crazy.
Starting point is 03:19:07 And the picture is with fucking Kojima holding the BB toy. Yeah, of course. And then the message in Portuguese with an urgent, urgent warning. And it's just, it's incredible because it's like, of course the person who gets off on like writing these attention grabbing lie moments like has to throw in the and these are set these babies are assigned for work
Starting point is 03:19:32 in factories around the globe bit at the end just to just to get the full the full you know flat earth level conspiracy shit working in there. It's good stuff. I remember when I found out a while ago that it was like, what is the point of these stupid chain emails that your parents would send to each other and then to you because- Oh, I know exactly why.
Starting point is 03:20:00 Do you know why? No, now I know. But I remember for years remember like not for years You'd get email threads that were just completely like Bill Gates is gonna send ten dollars to everybody who forwards this To their friends and if you forward it to over 50 people you're gonna get $20 instead Yeah, God is good all the time all the time. God is good forward it to all your friends now reasonably All the time. All the time. God is good. Forward it to all your friends now. Reasonably. Because at the end of this giant fucking stupid useless chain letter, you have a fucking bot
Starting point is 03:20:33 that just crunches all those emails and throws that into a fucking spam machine and has your emails ready to spam. It was the way they'd collect these addresses and then sell them back to people. But how come your mom would repost it? Well because she would think she would be getting money from Bill Gates. Do you know why? Because if I lose this ring, my wife will die. It's the same mentality.
Starting point is 03:21:06 It's the same thing. I mean the crazy part that like I was like on just not even on the nefarious like understanding the nefarious creators part. Like I'm like, okay, right. I get it. You're doing this to trick the gullible. But on the gullible part, I'm like, okay, but Auntie, like, Bill Gates didn't give you $10 the last three times.
Starting point is 03:21:31 Why do you think this fourth time it's gonna happen for real though? Is it because the photo of the person that's really blurry, that's holding up a bunch of money is like, yay, worked for me? Like, is that is that what pushes it over the edge this time? You know, like, I think there's a irony. I think there is a grand irony here in that the generation that told us you can't believe everything
Starting point is 03:21:59 on you see on TV will bring their iPad over to you and go check out this shit I found on Facebook. I've already talked many a times about the murder of Africa dot AVI attached in email threads that got spread around like wildfire through the church community and it was like look at what they're doing Look at what's coming. Look at what's happening to our community and you click and it's the trailer for Resident Evil 5 The first version of the trailer yeah that first one that first one man, I'll never forget Yeah, that first one, that first one, man, I'll never forget being like you seen this and you went no. Why? Cause you were like, what? I like, you got to sit down and watch this shit and just the, I got to, I got to fucking soy. Whoa, Jack, look there. Look at your face. Look at the thing. Like, Oh, it was great. It was great man Yeah, your whole body went tense and then sagged and you were just oh, oh
Starting point is 03:23:13 What a fucking I'll be so brave if they made that game again the same Cuz you know brave, you know the trick that everyone was able to feel threatened by in RE4 because they couldn't understand because it was different? Yeah, it's different. Yeah. It's just, Spanish people are scary. How about that? Oh, the Inquisition.
Starting point is 03:23:38 It's different. It's like the same, right? You pick a region and then you pick them like weird, scary stereotypes. Different is scary! Oh, it was very scary. Could you imagine if you took what was different plus zombies? Oh my god. It's like they're not human. It's like they're barely human. Ah, yeah. Yep, yep, yep. So, so you know good stuff on that
Starting point is 03:24:07 All right now remember send this podcast to 20 of your friends and if you do you will be blessed by the The the cube goblin the cube goblin of good tidings it'll make sure that every time you fold your bed it'll be all nice right angles and there will be no creases but I'm realizing as I'm describing this that I'm letting out my own insanity and if you don't send it if you don't send it to 20 friends, then your dishes that are air drying will become moldy.
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