Castle Super Beast - SBFC 004: It Can't Have All Been For Nothing

Episode Date: September 3, 2013

As Rustlemania draws to a close, the boys reflect on life lessons professional wrestling has taught them. We also discuss Megaman's spiritual successor, Nintendo's 2DS, the death of Megaton announcements, and unused Street Fighter 3rd Strike concepts.Got a question for us? Send it to: [e-mail]

How does one shit their pants in here? I have these clothes. I have these clothes. You're like... I have these clothes. You just go for it. Like... I'm just playing with it.

You don't even care. You have no recourse in order to express your pleasure more than your willingness to shit yourself. There's nothing in order to tell them that you are upset. Does your fight or flight response kick in and it just releases everything from your intestines so that you can be more truthfully enraged? No, I shit my pants in protest of this day. I'm so angry.

I'm going to go to the midnight line where everyone's going to get their game. I'm going to shit myself and I'm not going to leave. And if you want to wait in line, you're going to have to stand next to me. Hey everybody, welcome to the podcast. I knew it. Really? For sure? Yeah, for sure.

Awesome. We've wasted so many great conversations that haven't been recorded. I'm glad you were just recording. Welcome to... That's pretty good. Well played, Woolly. Yes. I play my cards close to the chest.

This is the fourth episode and once again, this week, we're going to be coming to you with all kinds of interesting stuff. I'm Woolly. My pants shitting. Woolly, question. The fourth episode of what? Of the Super Best Friendcast. The thing that you clicked on.

Exactly. The big picture that's telling you what it is right in front of your face right now. So I'm Woolly. I'm Liam. I am Pat. Pleased to meet you people. I am Pat. No, I'm Matt.

People are still making that mistake years later. That's true. Don't you agree, Woolly? Woolly? Woolly? How are you safe? The only people people know is Liam. Liam is there's no...

You can't fuck it up. You can't smoke it up. Pat with two T's. How would you agree with that statement? Oh, man. Pat as in Patrick. But I don't like Patrick. That's why I call you Patrick.

That's why we call you Patrick. No, Matthew. There's something. I know you hate Patrick. Do you actually care about Matthew? No, I like Matthew. It makes me feel like a man. That's interesting because Patrick makes me feel like a little boy.

Because your parents would yell Patrick at you. My parents or my teachers are the only people that ever called me Patrick in my life. If anybody else would call me Mr. Blank, which they have, like government people or whatever, or my dentist or fucking whatever, and my friends would call me Patrick. Yeah, yeah, no. Like I said, I have a similar situation where family friends call me by a different name. Oh, shit face? Yes, that's exactly...

Disappointment? Baby shit face. Wow, Liam. What did you just say? Revisioning. Hey, we're going to escalate. I'll just put it right at the roof when we can stop. I don't care because you guys have the most fan fiction together.

I know, I know. You would be like, got each other's backs. Hey Pat, sounds like trouble in paradise with these guys. Says the fucking OTP over here. Hey, if you don't know what that means, fucking don't look it up. So yeah, this week we're going to be getting into, of course, general game news, talking about some of the really exciting things that have been going on. Lots of stuff.

We're going to recap WrestleMania and just kind of go over, you know... What we learned. Yes, what did we learn from this month-long conquest? It can't have been for nothing. Show your work. Oh, you'll see it. And, of course, a little bit of FGC news. As there always is.

And anime movie news. We're going to segue around that corner into the matte watch. See who matched stocking this week. I hope you thought of something. I do, I do. Okay, we're going to take some of your questions and end off with what's going on on the channel. Man, we don't plan this shit at all. So with that being said, we're going to go...

We're sitting in a different order this time around. I guess we'll go counterclockwise and start with Matt. What have you been up to? Take it away. What are you doing, guy? I think, I guess, you know, like sort of what we just kind of completed is that me and Pat started playing Killers Dead. We both really, really, really like it so far. Yeah, I hear good things about that game.

Also some really bad things, mostly from American media. Mostly, actually exclusively, almost. That don't know how to play character action games? Also, sort of, and also we don't like weird Japanese shit anymore. I think me and Pat talked about how no one cared about Bayonetta 2 at E3. No one was covering it. Yeah, it was sad. And because it's a weird Japanese thing.

Playing through Last of Us really makes me feel that like now it's like if your game isn't an AMC show or an HBO show, how did you feel when so and so did this? The idea of an empty Bayonetta booth at a game show just makes my teeth hurt. It wasn't empty. It was just like not, the energy was kind of like just not there. An eighth of the size of Ryze's line. Yeah, actually not. Nobody was playing Ryze.

We were playing Ryze. It was easy to get in. But yeah, we were playing Killers and we both really liked it so far. And just yesterday, I had a really cool time playing a new light gun game I never knew existed. And it was, it's a year old. What? Right. Fuck you.

True light gun as in like response or just cursor. Me and my ladies, we went to go see a movie. Me and my lady. I was going to say, maybe there's more to all of them. She's going to be fucking pissed. She didn't notice that the other one was there the whole time. Anyway. Yo, Matt is a master pimp man.

I got this one in my coat. We went to go see a horror movie called Your Next, which is actually really, really good independent horror movie. But in the arcade section, they had House of the Dead 3. And I remember Pat telling me, House of the Dead 3's got this bullshit shotgun. The shotgun feels good, but like the whole game is shit. Because you pump it to below, right? It's a good feel. And we played it.

We put sunk like $10 into it. And we got really, I'm like, oh, this is really cool. But I kept hearing screaming somewhere in this movie theater somewhere. And all the girls are going nuts somewhere. I'm like, I'm going to check that out. Did you say that they were going nuts? They were going nuts. And I go there and they have this gigantic, gigantic cab.

It's like the Lost World Sega Shooter or Confidential Mission. You go inside and you sit down. And there's little tarps to block off all other senses. It's called Dead Escape 4D. Anyone here knows? No. Wow. Our Dark Escape 4.

The fourth dimension. Namco. Tesseract. Namco. When you go inside and what it is, it's a 3D game. It's got glasses that are connected to everything. You put it on. You sit down on a bench.

The bench vibrates when things happen. It's just a wind shooting your face. Of course. When monsters come in, there's 5.1 surround with a subwoofer. It's not as impressive as 9.2, but go on. Sure. You have a fucking turret. You hold a turret and it's got pulse sensors.

Sensors on it. Wow. It's every gimmick all at once. That's pretty good. And it's basically House of the Dead, but with way better graphics. And all this shit comes at you. Monsters come at you. They break through the glass.

The wind hits you in the face. You can't hear yourself think because it's so loud. And the only thing problem with it was it wasn't really a light gun game. It was like Terminator 2, the arcade game where you move the cursor around. So it's not traditionally, but you can see your bullets move in 3D space. It was kind of neat. But it was sort of fun. I was like, wow, this is really cool.

Why haven't I heard of this? And I'm like, I'll play this. It's a dollar. Was it like $8? It's a dollar for one life. Of course it is. Because it had every single fucking gun. I was super hyped.

And I'm like, I'll play. I want light gun shooters to come back. When you have to get like five servicemen to fix the different parts of this, you know what? You can take a dollar again. If you search, maybe we'll put a link to it in the show notes or whatever. But there's an image that we took of it. And it shows all the little sensory things it does.

And it's got a little icon for each one. Like this is the fear of sound. And then there's this one that's just a puff of gas in someone's face. And I was just like, and then fart gas attacks you. Fart gas attack. Whatever. So we had a great horror time. And the movie you're next, if you have it near your theater,

go see it. It was actually really good. So you and your lady friends, plural. Enjoyed the escape. All of my lady friends. I reminded of that 70's show. It was hard to fit all of them into the cab, I bet. It was.

It was. Like when they find the panties in the back of Eric's car. And like Donna's mom is like, those aren't Donna's panties. Those are my panties. Eric, you are a god. Nice. So that was my weekend. Pat.

Okay. So it's a bit dull lately. Russell Mania and The Last of Us and just all of that. Deadly premonitions. Deadly premonitions. It made me. I am fucking tired. Like someone pulled the bubble.

I'm the kind of guy who would usually go like, I'm going to wake up at noon. And then I'm going to play 12 hours of a thing. And I barely touched anything. Every now and then I'll go back to dive kick and just go online and get fucking salt as shit and just fuck. Just fuck. Yep. Like.

And I'm winning more than I'm losing and I'm still coming away from it. Just going fuck. Did you play unranked and ranked? Yeah. Because notice that in both tracks. I fucking can't believe the fact that Keats made it so that your win-loss record is always shown on every screen. You will never escape it.

It's infuriating. That's impending. Like I've always wondered what drove those people who play like Halo games to start like new accounts just so they can stop on noobs and seeing the ranking stuck forever. Yes. Do you have a percentage? I don't remember. It's got to be 50-50 for everyone.

You win and you lose. No, I'm super good at dive kick. All right. If you say so. The other thing is that I played. I put a mean streak going on. I played about five or six hours of Saints IV. Like after last week where I had all that bullshit with drivers, you mean Saints Row 4?

Yeah, that's what it says. Saints Row 4. You said Saints IV. Oh, did I? Yeah. That's okay. I actually played a bunch of it. That game's awesome.

It's not GTA. It's like barely recognizable as GTA anymore. It's Crackdown 3. I'm glad it's not GTA. It's Crackdown 3 and it's way better Crackdown than Crackdown 2 was or even Crackdown 1 is. Are you using Nolan North? Yes, I am using Nolan North. Excellent.

As Nolan North. Being played by Nolan North. Very good. It's really funny. It's really good. It feels like they just stared at prototype footage. Like the open world game prototype for hours and said, we want you to move faster than that guy.

That was the primary development resource of the game. That being said, even though I'm five or six hours in, I made no progress because all I do is just jump around and get clusters. Yes, me too. The problem is that it appears, if I were to guess, you don't need all those clusters to upgrade all your powers, but they are so plentiful that at the top of the building, you will scan the environment and you will see 80 of them. And they're all one jump away from each other.

What is a cluster? A cluster is a big glowing agility orb that you use to upgrade your superpowers. Every time you go anywhere, they're everywhere and you just say, maybe I should just pick up all the clusters in this area and you spent like an hour just doing that. How's the... Sorry. Before you got to my place, before we recorded our episode for Saints Row IV, I was just collecting the clusters.

That's all you were doing. I was just like, I've got to collect them. It's so distracting. How's the wacky guns and vehicles and all that? I don't know. Have you gotten the dubstep gun? I know. He's just been getting the clusters.

The next mission I have is to get the dubstep gun. All I have right now is the default weapons and some superpowers because it's also just... The cluster things pays in really well because the best part about that game is running and jumping and flying and gliding. If it was extremely good on the PC at least, I don't know about the console. The footage that we've seen, it's all very nice and floaty. Yeah. It's got just the right amount of...

It feels like crackdown. Like, it really... The jumping physics feel like crackdown. It just feels awesome, especially if you played a lot of Saints III where that was a regular city that you were a regular guy in. And now you're just fucking leaping neighborhoods in a single bound. See? It's awesome.

I can't wait to go for it. I can't show it before it has no business speed as good as it is considering all... Considering having a THQ, considering... And considering it was all DLC. Yeah. It was like a weird half expansion thing. You'd expect it to be terrible or at least feel unfinished. But it's great the extra time they gave it really well.

Yeah. And it's looking like this is now the replacement for all other feel like a really crazy awesome superhero in the city do what you want. Right. Absolutely. Where do we even go from here? I don't know. Infamous, infamous second son.

Where it is? Yeah. But that better graphics and teleportation. But infamous is focused on like really good shooting and like powers that just mimic third person shooter stuff so that it fools you. Saints is just... Like my question is more specific is like where the fuck does Saints Row go? Yeah.

Like how do you go back to... I think they do. To drive buys and stuff. Didn't they say in an interview recently that we're going to go do something completely different next time? They should. They did. That's the only thing you can do.

Yeah. I think they should because I have a feeling that this is going to be the kind of game where I get tired of the running and jumping and superpowers and then 10 seconds later the credits roll. You know... Yeah. Like if they dialed it all the way back to like the hood and like just this lowest scale possible plot that'd be the biggest mind fuck ever.

You're all fighting for a small amount of money. That's the crisis of the entire day. So it's just payback with Mel Gibson. Payback with Mel Gibson. Yeah. Or any Guy Ritchie movie. Volition should have made the Deadpool game. Absolutely.

Yeah. Absolutely. Not that the Deadpool game is a complete waste but Volition would have nailed it even harder. Volition's super underrated and I'm glad that they're finally getting that. Well they're underrated because their rating goes down because they've made some real fucking shit. But like as of late they've been super hot and nobody's really... Actually Armageddon was super hot, eh?

That was a good theme to mine though. Yeah. But yeah that's... Even Armageddon's like totally technically... Yeah. That's what I say to you. Before Armageddon it was okay. Yeah.

You know. What's going on? I've been playing Killer Is Dead. Had a good Labor Day weekend. God bless America. We shouldn't laugh at that. That's not appropriate. I was 174 still occupying my time.

I started playing The Walking Dead. So I played the first episode of The Walking Dead back when it came out on the screen. Survive Lillian Stankt. No not survive Lillian Stankt. The real one. The real one. And I lost my save due to a bug. And then the Vita version got announced so I said what the heck I'll just wait for the video.

Now you had only done the episode one... Only the first episode was strictly... Which is a new day. Yeah exactly. And you managed to avoid spoilers. Except for like one final thing. But I know like the journey is so worth it that I still want to do it. I find it bizarre that considering your proximity to us.

I know. Our playthrough. I'm baffled. And all that that you somehow dodged most of it. I'm really glad. Kudos. I had no idea what the second episode was about by the way. And the second episode was like such a step up.

It's so abundantly clear that the first episode is really a tutorial. And like a lot of the shit they tell you is just like yeah. Don't piss off people in the future. I totally agree. But then you get to the second episode and the level of importance on your decisions just increases like a hundred fold and it's only going to get bigger from here I'm sure. Clementine will remember that. Oh.

Yeah. I'm sure. Does the Vita version come in 400 days? Yes. Okay. The main thing that I thought about what you were saying is that the first one felt it was fine. It's fine.

It's good. I think we all felt like that. It's like yes. This is okay. I like it. And I think it's just suffering from the setup. Yeah. A little bit.

Is that you need to set it up and it needs to be kind of like classic-y. Like what's your main threat has to be just fucking zombies out there. They're going to eat you and where to and onwards you go like oh this is going to be a long run I think. Now we can get into weird stuff. Yeah. There's a lot of people including myself. This was my first telltale game beginning to end not just parts of it sort of thing.

So I definitely needed to get the gist of how this like new take on adventure games is going to go. And that's why I'm crazy stupid hyped for the Wolf Among Us. That can't look any better than it does. Like I'm so pumped. I remember some, I think someone on Destructor or some like site said look at this concept art for the Wolf Among Us and everyone in the comments like that's not concept art you idiot.

I think I was like oh what and they just updated. Hi. I fooled you. It was a point. I knew that. I was making a point. Nice. Now only other thing I did I watched this anime called Sunday Without God.

That's a really good title. What can this be about? That's the name of this podcast. I'm pretty sure it was called that. The Japanese title so I'm translating it. But anyway basically God says. It's like a Ryan Gosling movie. Sunday Without God.

God basically says the promised land or whatever your belief is is full. Like we can't, and it's a serious tone. It's not a joking tone. We can't take any more. I made a mistake and I'm sorry to all of you down there. The construction crews. God leaves. He leaves a few things behind.

He makes it so people can't die at all. If I'm not mistaken people can be born either but I can't remember if that's true or not. It seems like some people had some very specific wishes granted that they were thinking of at the time. There's a character in the first three episodes where he has this thing going on. And he leaves one other thing called Grave Keepers. And when a Grave Keeper buries a person they die. And it's just really good.

Is this realistic art stuff? Yeah what is this? That's the only thing I really don't like about it is the art style. It's like Moe shit. That's weird. It sucks. And it's getting really overshadowed. I was listening intently to what you were saying there and I'm really impressed in that premise.

But I want to see what this art style is. It's only the girls who look like that. And it's really unfortunate. The only thing that really botches it a bit for me but I think it's at least worth watching. That premise is interesting. The premise is really interesting and the art. But what is it? What genre?

Fantasy. I guess fantasy. But I mean is it about people going on a journey? Is it about a threat? Are they fighting in robots? I watched the first three episodes which is a very... It was an arc. It was an arc unto itself.

And the little girl main character was Grave Keeper. She meets this person who does these horrible... I can't go into anything without spoiling shit because this arc is... Is it a drama? It's a drama. That's what I want. But I recommend it. I believe it's Sunday without God in English.

Really neat show. So you've been into a lot of stuff that has Japanese folks taking classical Judeo-Christian mythology and just let's see what weird crazy shit we can do with this. It's a really neat idea. Yeah. Just play those games and watch that anime and throw Evangelion and Xenosaga onto the pile. I love it. Throw Evangelion off the pile as far as...

Throw Xenosaga off the pile as well. I like Evangelion but after seeing the third movie it's getting pretty silly. Oh, I don't want to talk about that. No, we're not. I'm sad. That movie sucks. The third one... Yeah, the third one.

But now you're getting into it. That's all that needs to be said about it. You know what has a good trilogy of movies? That's better. Berserk. It does. Got to organize that soon, by the way. As for me... I've kind of had an interesting weekend.

In particular because last night I played JoJo All-Star Battle. Oh, you got it way before I did. Yeah, I did. No, I didn't. Oh, you went to the place. Yeah, you went to the magical place. You went to the magical place. I heard about this. And at the place, basically our local fighting game hangout, some dudes set it up and they brought their sticks and controllers and we plugged it in and took it for a spin.

That game is slow. Slow? Malas is slow. But how can it be slow if you can do jab infinites? New generation slow, like third strike, first iteration slow. Wow, you are moving underwater while you're playing this game. Yes. Well, you know why you're moving underwater?

If I had to take a guess. So that you can look at the lavishly detailed poses that are the same as the manga frames. Yes. And despite the fact that if you move the camera a little bit to the left or right, you'll see their arms stretching and doing knocks before they come back down to do the crazy thing. No, don't do that then. So the game itself... Wow. So how great is it?

It's not. We're lying at all when they said this is not a fighting game. This is a JoJo game. Everyone that's hyped for All-Star Battle continue to be hyped because you know what? It looks really cool. All the visuals are there, the sound effects are there. They're having so much fun with the game that they didn't take the time to make it an actual physical fighting. But if you're looking for a legit fighting game, you look right past it.

It doesn't exist. You're going to have lots of fun if you're just a casual fan. If you want to get a bunch of friends around to just watch the supers and have fun with all the little moments that you remember from the show and the books, you're going to really get into that stuff. Can you attack a frog? I didn't unlock that yet. It sounds like the kind of fighting game that gets much worse the more you know about fighting games. Absolutely. It reminds me of a game that you and I have dear to our hearts that we hate to death and that's Evil Zone.

A game that people will come out and bizarrely defend. We're getting into this. And all I can think about for games like this is that people like you and me are mad. I don't know how into fighting games you are. It's like, I know a lot about fighting games. I can pick up something like Evil Zone or it looks like JoJo and go, this is broken. This is garbage. But to somebody who just mashes buttons in fighting games anyway.

The style and presentation is all they're seeing. There's no functional difference in the gameplay. So all they know is that this game makes it easier for them to just bang their face against the keyboard and make pretty shit happen. Evil Zone is a hot topic. It's not really a hot topic. Evil Zone is not trending right now. No, it's not. But whatever it's brought up and because we bring it up in the negative light that in my opinion it should be brought up in.

A lot of people come out and get really incensed by it. I just want to point out how negative that light is. Not to go too nuts. A dark night. But Woolly, Matt and I were sitting around talking about what is the worst fighting game we have ever played in our lives. And Woolly and I, separately, without knowing each other in the past, like in high school or early college, both had similar experiences with Evil Zone and it was easily the worst fighting game at the top of our list. So for anyone that's really into this game now, here's the thing to set it up.

It's full of a bunch of different animes that are all different genres clashing together. And so they have a lot of fun with the detail. There's a Sentai guy called Dan Ziver. Yeah. And you have a cool adventure where you go through story mode and every fight is like a new adventure. There's the previews, there's the title cards. So they have a lot of fun with that stuff. But the game itself has two buttons.

Wow. And attack and attack. Attack and attack. And you are literally not even doing motions, you're just pressing directions. And it's such a basic watered down version of a fighting game without maintaining the interesting parts like Divekick does. I was about to say this sounds like the complete opposite of Divekick. It's filtering out the good parts, leaving the bad. Right.

But hey, it's cool anime stuff so if you don't actually know or get into fighters on the competitive level, you're gonna miss all that stuff. And with JoJo All Star Battle, JoJo's awesome. Yeah. JoJo's bizarre adventure is the fucking shit. But this game is not very good, man. And like honestly, when you go to look at it, you're like, okay, the first thing you pick a character, let me pick Jolene and you'll pick Jonathan. Yeah.

Right. And you try to figure out. Joseph. Joseph. That's a good example because he's pretty good. But you try to figure out what's the main thing with this game. Are there, who's the grappler? Are there archetypes?

Are there arranged characters and stuff? And there really isn't. There's, you basically have all stand users are doing the same basic movesets. Right. You've got your Oda Oda Oda Oda multiple rapid punch. Yeah, you do. And then a few character specific tweaks between them, but not enough to make them distinct from each other. This guy has fire.

Then you've got the Hamon slash Ripple users from the older JoJo stuff. Right. And those guys are all SNK groove in CVS. So you hold those charge button and you charge up your super. And that's their whole deal. So a lot of their fights are just Dragon Ball games where you back off from each other. Yeah. And then you do really, really awesome lavishly produced fetishized suit.

Level three. Yeah. And with all the details and little sound effects and onomatopoeia. And then I can't believe they got that in there. And then it's done. Yeah. Or you have the steel ball run characters who are all mounted on their horses. Yeah.

And you get the most ridiculous fights between horse effects. I saw videos of horse combos. It's the same. It's the same. It's dude, your brain can't handle it. You're not ready for horse combos. I'm ready for horse combos. They don't even tell if it's a higher leg.

They're just hitting you. They're just flailing their limbs at you. And the horse is sticking its arm and legs out. Whatever. It's legs out in angles that don't make sense. Do they make sense? I've never seen a horse fight like that. Maybe they are arms.

I don't know. Guys, we've got to start doing horse combos. They train with the masters in Japan. But that's basically, yeah. I just broke that in and broke that down. And we kind of all at different points. We all kind of walked away. Yeah.

And then at some point when I got up and walked away, I didn't see where everyone went. And then I turned around and I realized they had crowded around the cabinet behind us and were playing the Capcom Jojo game. Of course they were. That's what happens. Nice.

That game's great. Yeah. So that was my weekend. That Capcom Jojo game reminds me so much of the Fist of the North Star game that Ark made. Yeah. Just in the case of like, it's the right characters and they got a really good, cool version of those characters.

Yeah. And they're both like fucked up and broken in the same kind of way. But they're still a lot of fun. Yeah. I would love that Fist of the North Star game have an easy operation mode for me because it's one of the things where I'm like,

every character is like a crazy different character than the last one. Yeah. It's learnable. You just need to apply, you know. But I mean, in Jojo's case, like dude, a week at Tops is all going to take. All you got to do is learn your launcher into jab infinites.

Isn't Jojo a bit like P4 where you have like, mashed squares do a combo into a super? No. No. It's not like that. But what you do have universally for everybody is light, medium, hard, Hadoken, super. Right.

Great. So that means that everyone can do their favorite manga moments. Yeah. And it's going to look fucking amazing. Yeah. But that's it. And they got all the voice actors, at least for the first two.

Yeah. You know. And you know, whatever. So that's pretty much it. They got all the cool stuff in there. Time Stop, of course. Jojo. Yeah.

If Dio and Jojo both used the Time Stop move, what happens? Well, one of them stops. I don't think they can get the same time. Oh, you can't. Yeah. Maybe you can. But from what we saw.

I would love it. I would love it. If you could do both and then Dio runs out first. Yeah. That would be so good. Yeah. So that's that. Now, we just finished off a pretty intense month.

Yeah, it was pretty good. We had lots and lots of rustles over these wrestling games. Was it more rustles than not? I think it was. It's close. There's a score card. I think it's 47 or something for rustled. Oh, all three of us together?

Yeah. I think so. Because we were always in an agreement, almost. Almost. Occasionally we differ. But yeah. So we're talking about WrestleMania, which is a month 31 rustling games. Let's call it a festival.

A festival of sweaty men. And what did we learn? We learned that there were probably more rustling games than we thought. Like, aside from sequels. Because we all know that SmackDown vs. Raw was like the longest running thing ever. More than you thought and more than you hoped. More than you'd hoped. I wanted to ask, though, about all of the WrestleMania.

And some people were like, thank God, WrestleMania is over. And some people were like, I don't want to watch this channel anymore. I'm so sad it's done. Now that it's done. But going through everything and some people were like, oh, now I'm back in a rustling. I'm watching the old stuff, watching these things for the videos. I want to ask Pat, Willie and Liam, like Liam, if you want to jump in with it, is that out of everything and all your memories, do you have a specific favorite wrestler of all time

or who do you think was the best? Just in general. Well, okay. You stacked everything. You stacked the career of being a wrestler. All the wrestlers have died. I mean, the thing is, is that I always... Chris Fennell.

You almost didn't barely got that out of your mouth. And it wasn't sure if you should say it, but you did it anyway. I mean, really, honestly, if anything, this month has absolutely gotten me to start paying attention. Unfortunately, a bit more to what's going on in the wrestling nowadays. And, you know, like, Botchamania was an occasional watch and now it's like, shit, let's go check that out. I can't stop watching Botchamania. A new one just came out too. Yeah, you know, so like, it's all, it's pulled us and a whole bunch of the fans back into it.

Going back through all these games, I jumped around. I'd go with Rey Mysterio a lot in these videos because I always loved him. Small guy doing high flying things. But I feel like my excitement will never be matched with any other wrestler than with Kane when he first came out, ripped the cage door off and was like the Undertaker's brother. And then when he does... That's gotta be, that's gotta be Kane! He's the Undertaker that was too horrible to get into wrestling and now he's here.

And the thing that always got me was like, his intro, like, the excitement wasn't when he came out. It was when he got in the ring and did the raise it all up and then boom! You know, I love that. I have a one dumb, more rustling fact that I didn't know until when the Undertaker first showed up his first match, his full name was called Kane the Undertaker. Shut your fucking mouth! The second match, they dropped the name and they just went with the Undertaker. Close your holes!

Are you serious? So Kane is basically the Baz. In a weird, reverse way. Yeah, yeah. You wore like 20 red greys. Yeah. You know? Kane the Undertaker.

Well, that's a really good fact. So I was like a good bit younger than you guys, obviously. You were like 10 years younger. Yeah. What era did you start in? Well, I mean, that's the thing. I started watching at the end of the Attitude Era, but obviously I was young. Because you were a baby baby.

I remember Rikishi and everyone fighting. I definitely remember that. I thought Kane was the coolest because he's the coolest, undeniable. Thank you. But then after that was when I finally, you know, was paying attention a bit more. I never really cared about it that much, but like I always watched it with my dad and like Rey Mysterio. I actually have to totally agree with you.

Yes. It's uncanny that we have the same pitch here. But yeah, Rey Mysterio and Kane. And I actually like John Cena unironically. Oh, wow. I was going back through stuff. John Cena, when he started, wasn't that bad. It was actually pretty cool.

He was more of an evil, not evil, but like, not like, hey kids, they Hulk Hogan. Hey kids, do your Hulk Hogan. Dude, get eight hours of drugs. Drink your teeth. Don't do sleep. Yeah. All that stuff. The thing about Rey Mysterio that I remember specifically got me excited was when he comes

out and jumps eight feet in the air and you're like, oh my God, like he's not human. He can do this stuff. And literally spinning around people like crazy. Super stylish. Like am I crazy? There was Rey Mysterio and what's his face? The big guy. Which big guy?

Like, I don't want to say big show because he wasn't around at that time, was he? Were they around? What about him? What about the big guy? Yeah, Rey Mysterio versus the big show. Yeah, that match. He's sick. Spider-Man versus the Hulk.

The poster was this. It was like one guy's super big one. They were staring at each other. And it's like, how could this little guy possibly be this bad? I'm not an idiot. The box art for Street Fighter Alpha 2. Yeah, absolutely. It's the guy looking down at you.

Right. No, it was that. Yeah. What about you? Mick Foley. I love Mick Foley. Infinite respect. The guy, he was never the best wrestler, but he was always the most willing.

He was like, that sounds really dumb. And it all died. Okay, let's do it. Let's do it. Because I want to be a wrestler. And he was great. And my favorite part of his career was when he wasn't wrestling and he was just the commissioner of the WWE.

Yeah, yeah. And he was just trolling people all the time, just yucking it up and just barely being able to walk down into the ring. When you're telling the stories about how, like, during some of his most ridiculous, painful, hardcore matches, his wife and kids were front row center. Yeah. Wow. And they were freaking out because they could tell when something went wrong.

Absolutely. That's just like, how do you do these things? The moment that sold it to me, like, I read his book and his book is fantastic. It's really good. Have a nice day. The audio book is also really good because he reads it. Great. And so I'm reading that and the part that, like, I always liked him.

I always thought he was cool and that he was like, I can't believe he's doing all this shit. But I read his book and he gets to the part where he's talking about hell in the cell. And he's talking about when he took the fall through the cage. Through the cage. And he's like, oh, fuck. And how they zoomed in on his face and Jarrah's going nuts. He's smiling.

He's smiling. And his thought process was that he was in a lot of pain and that he had fucked up a bunch of his teeth during the fall because he had smashed his teeth together. And that it's not that he was trying to smile. It's that I think if I remember correctly, he had, like, teeth had pushed through his lip because they had broken something. And he was trying to show off to the camera how fucked up and busted his mouth was. And it came off.

And like, there's so much blood that it just looks like a smile. Right. And like, that's how nuts this dude was. That's how into the show he was. I got to sell my teeth. I have to sell my teeth. My face is a bloody mess. And I'm going to have to have surgery and shit.

But look at this shit. Which was unheard of outside of Japan, basically. Which makes sense, considering he did all that dirt in Japan. Yeah. Since you read his book, you also remember how smart he was in the sense that when he first came in, Vince was like, OK, you're going to be the mutilator. And he was like, no, I can't let this happen. But you can't tell Vince no.

You go, Vince, I like it. And he goes, but I think, how about we go in another direction, like mankind? Because it's the psycho character's view on the whole world. And he goes, yeah, I like that. And then Vince thinks it's his own idea. And then he's willing to push it. Yeah. OK, OK.

Going for me, when I was looking at some old stuff recently, like I was watching like pre-attitude before the logo changed, right? Yeah. Like Golden Era. Well, Golden Era was like 93, 94-ish, right? And looking at everything and all the history of the wrestlers and facing drug problems and all that, Shawn Michaels actually went through a lot of shit and came out at the end. I think it was around before the attitude era where he got really heavy into drugs or whatever

and took time off. And then he got like a bad back thing. But then he came back, born again Christian. And then it was like, you know what? I'm still OK with doing DX stuff. Because him and Hunter did more DX stuff later. DX army. It was just him and Hunter.

Yeah. Again. Yeah, they were the new guys, yeah. And then he said, Vince, I don't really like the whole me coming down with God thing, but it's for the show. It's funny or whatever. It was a trooper. I'll do it.

OK. And then he came out at all of his accomplishments. I was like, you know what? He was super, super exciting. I also kind of want to say Undertaker. And that Undertaker never jumped ship. Nope. Never bounced around.

Nope. He's been doing it since 91, the fucking streak of WrestleMania things. And he never stopped being like a top card. Yeah. He was always there on the side. Even if he wasn't going for the title. Side card. Top card.

And I feel Taker's also in a weird place because there's a lot of wrestlers that were doing it for like 20 years or 30 years. And he's melted less. Yeah. Like, especially if you're a big guy. Yeah. Well, as you would expect it by now. Well, that's why I feel like he has his own gym, his own trainers, his own set with that

organization. Yeah. Because he's in such good condition by comparison. Yeah. Absolutely. So yeah, Undertaker and Shawn Michaels. If you guys ever want to look at it, I'll send it to you. Undertaker and Shawn Michaels did two WrestleMania's back-to-back against each other.

It was called Undertaker versus Shawn Michaels. And the second one was called Undertaker versus Shawn Michaels 2. And the first one is considered like one of their best all-time WF matches ever. And it's when they had those super elaborate intros where Shawn Michaels comes like a pastor with lights down. And Undertaker comes with a bunch of Celtic monks. Like all dark as possible. Like that's fucking a WrestleMania showmanship.

Now, this is all well and good. And wrestling has had great moments. But wrestling games. What did I learn from WrestleMania? I learned the vast majority of wrestling games are total garbage. And that as time went on and deadlines became shorter, the level of garbage increased exponentially. And I feel as if since there's so many of these things, a lot of them were probably like first-time programmer projects.

First-time guys out of school. And occasionally there might have been one guy on the team that had a really good idea that pushed it. So you had one element that might have been interesting or awesome that that one guy worked on. But the rest of the game just couldn't come together because fuck it, we'll get it right next year. It's really sad when we went back and we played all over the place. And if there seems to be like a period of three years on the PlayStation 1 and the N64 where all wrestling games were, that we know anyway, were pretty awesome. The SmackDown games and then the WrestleMania 2000.

They were awesome. And what's the thing? They have systems that you can understand and they're fast. That's all you need. You don't need a billion match types. You don't need a bunch of weird gimmicks. Just fucking update. It's a weird situation because I make fun of sports games because they only update the roster.

But you fucking just update the roster of the SmackDown and Aki games. And just as long as your core system is that Rock, Paper, Scissors, that every good competitive game has. And in particular, I remember the day that Def Jam Icon got announced. And I couldn't have face-pombed any harder because it shows that they bought the engine, they knew and they understood that, okay, this series is popular, but they really never understood why. They didn't know.

It has nothing to do with fucking Def Jam. So they realized at some point they were like, fucking, we've created an IP now. Let's just make it on the fight night engine which we own. And they didn't carry over the one thing that made their games work. So not only that, but that specific EA team that made Def Jam Icon, after that came out and sold whatever amount that didn't really justify its fucking existence, they made that short-lived, you remember, EA announced that Marvel brawling game where you punt, not Marvel Nemesis.

It was one that used the fight night engine and you punched guys through buildings. I don't even remember this. It was made by Kudo, the fucking connect guy. It was his EA company. There was video of it. I remember Jeff Keely showing game trailers going, oh my god, look at this Marvel fighting game. It's Captain America and he punches Hulk through a building

and it was like a full-ranged fighting game. It was cancelled because Def Jam did so fucking badly and they didn't want to put another bottom out. The menus were revealed and stuff too. Okay, I remember this one. Thanks a lot, Def Jam. Thanks a lot, Kudo. You made fight nights, that's pretty good.

One final note on wrestling too is like, holy shit, have I been listening to a lot of wrestler entrance themes? I knew it, I knew it. Why is this music so good? I don't know. We played it and I had the David Otunga theme going on loop for a while and honestly, the thing with the Shawn Michaels bit on the last bit for me is I got home after recording One WrestleMania One Night

and I was going through all the remixes of the DX themes, the aggression version, the metal version, etc. and then the DX army version and I was just like, fuck it. And I went back to the original and it's by far and wide the best. So the reason why I would guess that they're so good is because they're wrestling entrance themes, they have to be recognizable and get you pumped and into it in sometimes a space of 15 to 20 seconds.

Because the time it takes for a guy to run down to the ring so they end up being built on really strong hooks that repeat and then they just layer something decent on top of it and the hooks are really, really strong. You brought up the fact that Ultimate Warrior was like 90% music and then 10% is gimmick. And the thing is that his music, I feel that wouldn't work today because now go back and watch it, it's too slow of a start.

His entrance has nothing on Y2J by comparison but has the biggest, most explosive, like holy shit, everyone loses your minds. And it has to all be about that. Yay, WrestleMania. One more thing is that... I regret everything. One more thing about that is that do you, with the news I gave you guys that I can't reveal yet about wrestling?

Oh, yeah. You got Trish coming over. I got Trish coming over. He's going to teach me some fucking yoga. Get the hose. Just really quickly is that... I'm not making that joke again. There's someone I want to plug and his name is Joe Gagné

and he has this series called Joe Gagné's Wrestling. I watched that. I showed you one and it's a guy that did more obscure wrestling games than us. He just reviewed them and they're really like even-handed reviews and tells you what modes or whatever but he does Commodore wrestling games. He does Amiga. He does all these NES.

He did NES. He goes, did you know that there is a version of WF Raw for the 32X? No, of course you didn't because it was on the fucking 32X. Yeah. And all this other stuff. And he did the most obscure wrestling games ever. He did Russell Fests, those old Technos games for the arcade. So if you want to look at more really interesting wrestling games

go to Joe Gagné's Fun Time Arcade on YouTube. He also did Justice to covering revenge and all the changes and stuff because we didn't get a chance to go through every single game. Because we're all too salty at that time. Well, first of all, we did No Mercy as the first brawl ever so we didn't want to go through that again but we didn't get a really chance to go into revenge and he pointed out some really cool stuff I forgot about

like La Parka starts with a chair. That's how accurate it was. The only thing to add before we move on from WrestleMania Forever is that my favorite part of all of this is Matt's total loss of the ability to say the word wrestle. Yeah. This whole time you've been saying wrestling games for like 20 minutes. And I think it's the funniest thing in the world.

It's great. We've all dipped into there a little bit but I'm far the most. I can do it when I think about it. No, you have to focus. We played lots of wrestling games. But now I'm thinking about it. No, I think that's pretty salty.

Go ahead, Liam, go ahead. Go say it right now. I got wrestling games. We can't unsay it. No, it's impossible. It's like when you're writing and you get into these little habits because you spell something bad and now you have to correct yourself every time.

Anyway, so yeah, that's it. What's new, man? Well, Big Boss Dog, Keiji Inafune is back again. Yeah, he keeps coming back. And this time he's brought Ben-Jud along with him. He's back with Soul Sacrifice. He's back to teach you how to get girls. And now he's back with Ben-Jud.

But why? Where is he teaching you how to get girls? He's a weird like power-up in some creepy dating game. There's also that before his face. No, a different one. His face is in a game. Inafune also made that weird bug versus tank. Oh yeah, that was Comcept.

Yeah, that was Comcept. He was in Sweet Fuse, the dating game for girls. That's what I'm talking about. No, no, he's the father of the main character. Oh man, I'm getting all the Inafune dating advice. So for those that don't know, Inafune is... Keiji Inafune is the father of Mega Man. And another bullet point on the list.

And the designer of Adon from Street Fighter 1. Oh wow, yeah. He designed Adon and a couple other changes on some other characters. But mainly the father of Mega Man and eventually the overlord of Capcom for a while. He was running Capcom for a while. So here's the thing. He now does the thing that I mentioned on the first episode of the podcast, which is I would love to see Japan have more kickstarters.

Right. So he gets his group Comcept together to pitch Mighty Number 9. Yes. It's basically how do we do... It's basically plagiarism. It's the best time. It's him going, I need my spiritual closure with Mega Man. Absolutely.

You watch the video dude and I had so many feels. Like my heartstrings were being tugged. And then he walks by this girl that's dressed like Roll in real life. He's seeing little glimpses of his past, but he can't do anything with them because they're owned by Capcom. And then in the end, you're like, okay, I'll totally give you my money, KG. Let's do it. And then he's sitting on the bench and he fades away.

And I'm like, no, don't die. Come back. No, you'll be having my money. I can imagine KG, like he's just walking away in slow motion while he's chasing him. It was so sad. And I was like, I'm backing this immediately. Everyone did in 24 hours. It was funded to its full 910.

90 number nine is for anybody who has not seen it or because we're not being super clear. It's Mega Man. Oh yeah. It's Mega Man. Oh yeah. And this is the perfect time for him to do this Kickstarter because Capcom's mishandling of Mega Man and it's been unfortunate. It's been the worst thing I've ever seen a character go through that I care about.

Which is weird to say. And some of it is not their mishandling as much as it is just bad luck. Yeah. It's been the public opinion. It's been a bad time for Mega Man. Absolutely. And frankly, when you see it like this, it's so faithful and spiritually like there that you're like, will he even get away with this?

Right. We don't know if this is going to get the OK. The first thing I saw about this was a screenshot of Mighty number nine running and shooting. His name's Beck. Beck, whatever. And I didn't look at the Kickstarter until now. Should have called it jump and shoot man. Right?

I saw the screenshot and from a glance, it's like, it's new Mega Man. And I'm like, no, it's not. It's that close. It's that close. What? Yeah. Beck, to me, when I saw him, I was like, whoa, it's a Mega Man redesign. Because they redesigned Mega Man every other year.

I thought it might be like a battle network thing. Like a redesign. And you look at call and call is just like a role redesign. If you didn't get that, by the way, rock and roll, Beck and call. Oh, wow. Interesting. Rock, bad and roll. I didn't get the Beck and call.

I thought it was just like Beck. No, it's Beck. Yeah, man. Yeah, one of your weapons is folk singing. Yeah. Exactly. So the big difference is that Beck can like transform his body into different things. Like mechanized.

He's got a big bush gun. His bits come apart. Oh, nice. But it's his whole body. Sure. And in the concept art, you turn into like a big hammer and like a little conveyor belt robot. I just wanted to really quickly jump in. Oh, I looked really quickly at all the rewards for Mighty Number Nine.

And I was like, I want a reward where it's like, get your own joke into the game. And I want Beck to go, I got your power. And then a robot boss just punches him in the fucking face. Like Pharaoh Man does in the Mega Man. I've got to guess that in there. Mega Man's greatest moment. And even the video opens on like growing up the building side. Yeah.

I usually am not a fan of Kickstarter videos that don't show any gameplay. Right. Man, oh man. Just one way. They hold me in. When it shows the list of everyone that works on it, it's like, oh, this is good. Yeah. Oh, the level designer for Mega Man 2 is working on it.

It shut up and take all my sentence goals. It's a weird thing because so much of this is trading on something that I didn't think that would hit me. And it's just, man, I really care about Mega Man. Yes. I was really upset when stuff, not even when stuff was canceled, but just like, yeah, or maybe we're not doing something. It hurts me.

Well, I think it's sad. I get sad. It's just the absence of Mega Man. Yeah. And like the absence of a lot of characters. I love Mega Man. And the thing is there's no, it's impossible that a person just doesn't like or care about Mega Man.

They care about one version of him. Yeah. Or one entry into the franchise in one way, shape, or form. You care about X or you care about that. This core, true, original rock version is the one that represents them all. So, you know, whatever your age group, whatever series you started off. Absolutely. It all matters, man.

It looks fantastic. So please, everyone, please stop posting the Kickstarter on our wall. We know. We don't need like the 20 hit combo of like do just back to back posting. We're aware guys. Thank you. We read stuff on the internet really aggressively. Yeah.

And also, I'm really happy to see that at least one of every single tier has been filled, including dinner with KJ. Oh, man. He's like, you know, we know who took that tier Ben Judd. Yeah. It's like, I got an idea for a Bionic Commander game. Oh, man. So yeah, that's, that's what's going on.

And super funded, right? All that's going on this week. Okay. It needs two million to get like ports to everything. Which they're not talking about at all right now. Which they're going to get. They're going to get it. They've got $900,000 in one in like 22 hours.

No. This is like, wasn't it like 30 some odd hours to get fully funded? Oh, okay. It was 30 hours. Well, like it was 24. But this is like project eternity money. Like people care. They really, really care.

No. Like again, someone was like, I got 10k to burn on Mega Man. Yeah. You know. You tell everyone. You tell me that if I pay you $10,000, you can bring back Mega Man's ghost in a new body. Here's my money.

Yeah. So here's some really interesting news that I was like, whoa. They sat down platinum, right? Oh, okay. I know where you're going with this. They sat them down and they spoke to Kamiya and they said, hey, so how do you, how would you feel about like Nintendo buying you guys out and you becoming the new second party? You becoming the new rare, basically.

The new monolith, I think, is a better, like, retro studio. Yeah. The second party at this point, I think. Yeah. Like going through the emotions and becoming the rare ghost you guys, he's like not interested at all. Really? Not interested at all.

We would not want that. Did he say I wouldn't mind? No. No. Let me finish. Let me finish. So now he goes, not interested. And I was like, okay.

And then the interview continues on. And then he goes, how would you feel about making exclusive titles for Nintendo? Right. That relationship in the future and just developing on the Wii U. So being partners but not being owned. Exactly. And he's like, I wouldn't mind. And yeah, that's something that we'd like to discover.

That kind of sounds like some sort of translation error, maybe. No, it's not. Because some of these things, I remember there was like a lot of asks for something where someone said something and then they're like, oh, that was just a translation error. No, that just seems odd. No, because you're like, what's with A and B, right? So the deal is, it's quite simple. He does not want ever to have Platinum owned by anyone else that would have creative ownership

over their final say. Because the genesis of Platinum is running from Capcom. Yeah. Which did that. They don't want to be over all four seeds. Never forget seeds. Okay, never forget. I forget seeds all the time.

This Platinum was founded on the American Revolution of Independence, you know what I mean? Think of the man fucking us. We want to make the most Japanese shit ever, and we know how to do it awesome, so fuck the rest. And then they don't make selling any games. Yeah. But the point is, is that they have no problem working as close as possible with Nintendo

as long as they get the final say. I think they would not mind working as possible with anyone as long as it keeps the fucking lights on. You know what? That's a fair point. Yeah. Well, Satan, sure, as long as the lights stay on, they can go on it and they'll give it out, but they just want the ability to say no.

Yes, exactly. So based on that, we're probably going to continue to see some heavy hitting Platinum titles. So the Wii U is saved? No. There's a rumor from a somewhat credible source that says there's going to be an Xbox One exclusive Platinum game. It's possible.

Yeah. A somewhat exclusive source named Sea Boat. Sea Boat, yeah. Yes. He's been right on the line. Almost like a lot of stuff. They're also asking, they also asked, like, what's the likelihood of seeing Bayonetta show up on the Wii U at some point, part one?

Yeah. Yeah, he said he'd like to. Yeah. And he said, yeah, it'd be great. No, no. Make something new. Wow. And why?

Who the fuck would port that? Sega. I'm sure it'll be a great port, too. Four frames per second. While we're on Platinum, I'm sure you also saw the picture, of course, the picture of the original, wonderful 101 art style, which surfaced. I didn't. But you were telling me that it was much darker.

He showed it at Pact. It looks like a beautiful job, but darker. Oh, god. It's neat. You'll look at it, and you'll be like, that's really neat, but I really don't mind where it went. And the other thing about Platinum is he said, I have ideas for the 3DS. And he was like, I'd love to make a game where you play as Jean on the 3DS.

Oh. Shit. And he said he has ideas for Okami and Bayonetta on the 3DS. No. I didn't notice this. I know. My dick is so hard right now. I say 3DS, but that's just because he was asked about 3DS?

That's probably any... Come on, Vita! Vita, Bayonetta! Yeah. Vita save? No. Whoa, whoa, whoa. Come on.

2DS. Yeah. You know what? So the first thing I thought of is that, man, I don't want to talk about this on the podcast, because it's such a bummer. Well, here's the deal. Going to Polygon, it's surprisingly not the worst thing ever. Now here's the thing.

The 2DS was announced, honestly, for pretty good reasons. For babies. Fantastic for babies. We can drop the price with our components, like, less expensive, get rid of 3D, which children shouldn't be using anyways, and let's be real confused and compete with the tablet market by putting out something that matches that... That's a giant screen separated by a little piece of plastic. Yeah.

You know what? That makes sense. You want to get your sister something for Christmas or whatever? I'm shocked at what I saw, right? Yeah, that's what's happening. There you go. I'm shocked that when I saw it two side by side, I'm like, oh, the 2DS is smaller. Yeah.

Because when you saw it the first time, I'm like, look at this ginormous, ugly thing. Like, it's still ginormous and ugly. But I thought it was bigger, just the way it is, not just smaller. This is not the 3DS revision I wanted, but it won't fit in your pocket. No, actually, I took my 3DS earlier today and it fit in my pocket. And the 2DS is smaller than that. Of course you run these experiments. Of course I do.

You're sick. You're sick, please. I'm sorry. But in general, I get why they made it and as long as they don't phase out the regular ones and as long as they keep coming out with a must buy game per month, which they've done all year, it's fine. My main problem is it just looks hideous. It's so visually ugly.

But for kids, probably love it. Yeah. Your first thought is, what is this Fisher Price looking garbage? And then they come back and say, it's for children. It's for Fisher Price. I actually really want to interject there and say, people are really divided on that. Because a lot of people like it. Really?

Well, they're crazy. No, a lot of people like how it looks. I'll fight you on this. You want me to give you a name? I can't give you names. Jimmy likes it, doesn't he? Bobby does not. But I mean, I like it.

I know there's a bunch of people on Neogaf who like it. A lot of people on the internet do like how it looks. It's extremely divisive. At the end of the day, it's like a cake, man. It's like a thin slice of cake. There's gaffed photoshop, so if it is an X, like at the end of an X-Random, slashing a beat in. To be fair, whenever there's any new console, like anything looks like anything, people

will photoshop it doing a dumb thing anyway. It doesn't matter how good they look. The other thing is, I really hope it comes out in Japan. Now, there's no reason for it to come out in Japan because 3DS sells so well. They don't have to have a cheap model. But I don't want to pay 200 bucks for a vanilla 3DS from Japan so I can play Japanese games. I'd rather... Oh, you want the weird bullshit you want to import?

I'd love to be able to import a $150, you know, 2DS. But also, it's like, that's my Japanese. That's the weird one. Yeah. Well, I mean... From Japan. Well, I just like to have one, you know. It's neat, yeah.

Somewhere in a dark, dimly lit corner, the guys that make screen protectors are just rubbing their hands together. Yeah. Horries, right. I mean, Hori? Yeah, basically. Well, it's the same screen protectors as the regular 3DS, they just have to rebrand them. They're doing the...

Yeah. Just change the dimension slightly and you're done. No, they're the same. They're the same. It has the vanilla 3DS. Oh, well then... Yeah, they're identical. And that is much more...

They're doing the Brian Fury laugh. I was gonna say quickly, Willie, I was like, hey, you know about that Ganon figure and you're like, what Ganon figure? And then I showed you a picture of that Wind Waker Ganon figure and you went, fuck! Reason to buy a Wind Waker Ganon! You Ganon! Wind Waker Ganon is best Ganon. He coveted the Wind!

Willie just wants the figure. He was depressed. Willie just wants the figure because it's a really surprisingly nice figure. I really like Wind Waker. Man. Wind Waker Ganon is easily the best Ganon. Oh, god. He's got motivations.

He's a person. Yeah, he's a person. Plus, I always thought Ganon was a wizard and he looks like a wizard. Yeah, he's wearing robes and stuff. I thought Ganon was a wizard. Always a big pig with a spear. And like, an original Ganondorf in The Orchard of Time is as cool as he is. He's a thief.

Like, when you have to think of the guy that's like, I've got a harem of thousands of big nose jets. Yes. Right? Which one of these two convinces you that he can handle it? I rule a land of a thousand Chinas from WWF. Can I just get one Zelda? Can I just get one?

No, you cannot. No. Yeah, I can watch Ganondorf's my favorite. They're all great. Like, honestly. All the 3D Zelda ones are great. So, yeah. Wow.

We are rolling right along there. Interesting things over Zelda's too as well. Something people were talking about that came up was at Orchard shows. Not Orchard shows, sorry. At trade shows. Yeah. Right? There are moments that used to happen back in the day.

The megatons that would destroy all the good things. You woke up the next morning and there was nothing. Life was different. Right? And the world has changed. We haven't had any moments like that in years. And I know part of that is just because we've become so cynical. Well Bayonetta too.

Right? Bayonetta too, yes. But your points will stand. That was the last time. But Bayonetta too didn't level the Earth. It leveled a certain group of people. It leveled one country. I think the part of that reason is just all these planned media cycles for game releases.

So it used to be, yo, check this shit out. And it's like the full 10 minute gameplay trailer of something you never knew before. And you just go, wow, what the fuck is this? And now, six months before that, you hear rumors. You get teasers. And then three months before that, you get a countdown clock. And the website gets registered. And then something datamines the server info and finds out who registered it.

And some fucking GameStop employee enters the thing into the database. Yeah, it's too much. So the surprise is gone. Find out. You can play as Phoenix Wright. Because I mean, I'm directly referencing the fact that I can go back and watch that video, which I'm going to link for you guys, of the reveal of Twilight Princess. Yeah, that's the one.

And the tingles, dude, I still shiver. You can see with the crowd losing their minds. That's such a good reaction to lose. A really good thing about that particular one is that, like, there's a quote that's saying, when I saw that some people in the crowd were crying, I knew video games were lame. Like, when they were watching that trailer, I knew video games were lame. But that was the birth of the guy Jen Forkoma, you know, the four IGN guys. I actually want to go ahead and say it.

No, that was the year before. Are you sure? It's a long... 2003 is with those IGN guys. And 2004 is when Twilight Princess... I thought they were getting high for Zelda. I thought the two pictures were your part. Oh, maybe that's it.

Maybe that's it. Yeah. Oh, you're right. Are they wearing different clothes? Yeah, they are. And the sad picture was from the year before. It was when they're watching Pac-Man. And then they did not go to the Twilight Princess unfailing, but staged the shot anyway in order

to show their approval. Right. My biggest regret is me and Pat not having a good internet connection when we were in the middle school. It was a bummer. It was a bummer. And we weren't able to do a reaction of Mega Man being in Smash. Yeah.

That would have been awesome. Because what happened was, we woke up and he went to NeoGaffer, go Nintendo or something, and he said Mega Man's in Smash. And it wasn't... We weren't watching the direct. Yeah. And he got the pan up and went, oh, shit! It's like, no, just somebody told me.

Text. Yeah. I wanted to say, like, Bayo was definitely like the biggest surprise in a long time. We not had such a media bullshit thing. Metal Gear Solid 5 easily would have taken that. You remember the 10 minute trailer? Yeah, yeah. Ground Zero's kind of...

But we knew this game was being worked on. That's literally what I said. Had it not had the... Yeah, yeah, yeah. It would have been. It would have been. Yeah. And when we were at E3, I saw something that I never thought I'd ever get to see or would

ever happen again. What? No one knows the Mythical 2001 Metal Gear Solid 2 trailer at E3 that year. Yes. And how it would show every hour, on the hour, and by the end of the show, organizers were telling Konami to stop fucking playing it because there were fucking up fire escapes and all sorts of zoning codes and shit. Well when we went past Konami's booth, they had about a 25, 30 minute trailer run next

to their Castlevania booth and every single fucking time that you heard the music kick in for the MGS5 trailer, everyone within eyesight or earshot of the thing would just stop walking and turn and be like, I need to watch this trailer again. Yes. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's the best trailer. Pat went to Gold Line to play Lord of the Shadow 2 and I was like, I'll just go and fucking stay here and watch this fucking trailer three times.

Look at that music and everything. Yeah. Look at that. I was going to say that I also brought up that point, I think I remember telling you guys in the past that you paid for sound at Los Angeles for E3. So there's the Dead Rising 3 Gigantic TV that's playing 10 feet away from the MGS5 trailer, which one paid more for the sound because Dead Rising 3 is silent and MGS is like, oh no.

And you're like, yeah. Words that kill. So good. I'm going to go back to a conversation that we had a long time ago about this stuff where as far as I could recall, the Smash Brothers Brawl website was the last really big world level in Japan and everyone would get up every day and refresh the shit out of the page. And I'm not even particularly into Smash, like I like Smash a whole lot, but I'm not like, yeah, I'm a big Smash guy.

And just like the way they drip fed us and the way it's like, you never know. Refresh, refresh. Oh, it's crashing. Oh, maybe it'll come through in the next five minutes. It's a post about the assist trophies and here's a little man. Yeah, a little man. No, I like it. And you're like, oh, that's that's pretty good.

And then it's like another time when it's Toon Link or it's Star Wars or it's, oh, shit. Sonic's and Brawl. Oh, shit. Yeah. Yeah. The world fucking. Japan time. Japan time.

Yeah, man. Everyone learned. True discipline. Those things. Yeah. Solid Snake and Brawl. Yeah. Yeah.

That one got me a lot more than Sonic. But now that it's Mega Man, like there can't be anything. I can't think of anything. Well, they already said Mega Man's a special case. Please don't look forward to or expect other characters. That's too nuts. You can't beat Mega Man like like Simon Belmont and you're done. It's just like of those big giant reveals.

I mean, there's the Sonic and Brawl. There's Snake and Brawl. And then the most recent brawl is just and the I feel that the concept is you didn't hear anything about it and you really, really want it, but you never think it would happen. And so the last thing that qualifies for all those three is when Revengeance got announced and it's a fucking character action game, Metal Gear made by Platinum and that one was even weirder because we heard about it. Yes.

And everyone just assumed that news was fake. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. That's ridiculous. You're a bang. I mean, that's a personal Megatime right? Yeah. Inside, you know. Well, there was also like recently, like on a slightly different tangent, the reveal

that like the new Pokemon of the new Pokemon anime didn't hear about that. Yeah. Where like, like fuck you, Ash, it's red. It's red. It's red. They're doing the manga. Wow. Have fun.

They're pulling a full Metal Alchemist. Okay. I get so many minds and it was announced while I was at the anime con, like during the con and I was sitting in like a screening of Madoka and like just all of a sudden a tidal wave of blue. Shit. Halfway through the opening, I read it on my smartphone and I was just like, holy shit. And I just left the room.

Oh my gosh. Show everyone. Everyone in this convention. And that was always the biggest yelling to everyone. That was always. But I left and I went straight to the Pokemon panel and brought it to my friend who was moderating and I was like, look, and he's like, I'm doing this right now. Look, and he's like, it's fake and I'm like, it's not fake.

Wow. And he announced it and the room just exploded. Whoa. It was awesome. That was always the biggest downer because we'd get the Pokemon show. It was just fine. I liked it when I watched it as a kid. And then, but then at some point, somebody's like, yo, check this shit out and they'd show

you the Pokemon manga. Yeah. And within like a couple episodes, like Ash is, not Ash, fuck me, fuck me. Reds. Reds Pikachu fucking kills Brock's on it. Yes. And Brock is just like, oh, you fucking killed my Pokemon. And it ends with this huge battle royale where Red's using all of his Pokemon to beat

the shit out of Mewtwo. And it's, oh, shit. And he wins. And he wins. He doesn't lose every time. And so now that we're finally going to get that shit, I want to just take all the Pokemon pokeballs out and just toss them. No, totally.

It's like, fight all of Team Rocket at once. It's like when we heard they're doing JoJo, but they're doing it right. Yeah. Yeah. You know, it's totally that. We're full on board for that shit. Fucking that fighting game better be so good. Yeah.

Oh man. Po-Tekin. Po-Tekin. Po-Tekin. Po-Tekin. Po-Tekin. Po-Tekin. Po-Tekin.

Po-Tekin. Po-Tekin. Po-Tekin. Po-Tekin. Po-Tekin. Po-Tekin. Po-Tekin. All I can think about with that Pokemon fighting game is that that's got to be the most brutal

roster selection ever. My god. There's over 600 people that can go on a fucking roster. Granted, I think they're going to stick to like the bipedal ones. I think they're going to go mature. You know what it is? It's the Mega Powers, right? It was like, we don't know what we're doing or we're not sure.

It's going to, oh, it's just too much power. Like every fighting type confirmed. Go. Right. Yeah. There's a lot of interesting news that's been popping up as we just move right into FGC news, as we've already done. Dude, I love the FGC.

Yep. Uh, so. It's embarrassing, though. Some unearthed sprites of Third Strike have popped up. What? I don't hear about that. What? How many years has it been?

Unearthed artwork has popped up. Guys, turn around. I'm going to take my dick out. And I mean, well, like, like, it's not foolish. Let me finish it. You have to turn around your computer because we have less. It's not finished concept. It's sprites with move designs, right?

So, like, some of the planned moves, if we go look at, uh, Alex. Alex was originally going to have, like, a ground throw, where when you're on the ground, he'd grab you, swing you around, like, able, and just throw you. I don't want to hear this. I don't want to hear this. Or he'd do a cartwheel flip like this, land on your shoulders, and do a Frankensteiner. I can't. I can't.

I can't. Planned concept moves for Third Strike that never got put in. I can't. So this shit is super hype. Remy had a move where he'd chop you in the back of the neck. Yeah, he did. He would collapse to your knees. Yeah, you won.

And then he'd just break your neck. Yeah! Um, it's really cool to find out. When was this announced? Uh, it wasn't. It wasn't. Not an announcement, but... It wasn't revealed.

The unearth thing, uh, was, uh, two days ago. Oh, okay. Actually, it's fresh. It's fresh. Um, there's some really cool stuff in here. There's a link to it on Event Hubs, so be sure to go check out some of this stuff, man. Like, Third Strike... Dude, that's awesome!

...had even more shit. And, like, again, it's just light sketches, but some guys took some of them and made gifs out of them. Gifs. So you can... Oh, they made gifs. And so you can see them moving. Hey, I guess that's more appropriate for Alex to be an ultra, right?

Yeah. Q had a move where he just grabs you. Don't even... No, I can't. I can't live. He grabs you, and he puts you inside of his coat. No! It does final destruction with you in his coat.

That makes more sense! That's what it says, because it feels very unfinished, the final verdict. 12 sticks his arms in the ground and slingshots his body. No, he cares about 12. Whatever. Well, I'd care about 12 if he had that move. Yeah. And speaking of moves, Mike Z has demonstrated Big Band's normals.

Oh, really? Yeah. There's a video out there. You guys can go check it out. So for those who aren't familiar, Skullgirls, the hype new shit... I'm sorry, what was that, Woolie? Skullgirls, the hype new shit... I'm sorry, what was that, Woolie and Matt?

Skullgirls. Oh, sorry, I was drinking something. One more drink. Yeah, Skullgirls really had... Yes, so... Come on! Anyway, so... Do the thing!

The thing that we pay you for! Skullgirls! When the game comes out and a big win with all the characters in, we'll do a big win. There's money everywhere! So Squiggly's already in the build. Yeah. I saw her doing this. That looks really good.

She looks great. She's really fun. I haven't played it yet. And so they have Big Band in his sketch form and they're just showing you here's where the money's going, guys. And as you would expect, it's great. Every button has a different instrument. Flip out of his coat and hit you.

Of course it does. Yeah, okay. His standing medium kick is like the back of a trombone stretcher that hits you twice and launches you into the air. I was just going to ask what the trombone was. It's really cool. And when he does his burst, all instruments just shoot out of it. Of course they do.

So it's fantastic. It looks great so far. Can't wait for it. I'm super hyped for Skullguy. Yeah. Oh, wow. Yeah, I don't know why I never connected that in my brain. He is the first Skullguy.

Skull, man. Yes. He can't win the tournament canon. That'll be weird. And other fighting game news is Capcom's uploaded I Am Street Fighter to the YouTube's. For those of you who haven't checked it out yet, I highly recommend it. It's a pretty cool documentary that was included in the giant-ass-expensive Street Fighter 25th box that I bought.

That we all bought, I'd like to say. I didn't buy it. You didn't buy it? I didn't buy it. I bought it at the end of the game. Right. It's a shame you don't like Street Fighter. I do like Street Fighter.

Not as much as we do. If it came with a Q-mask, you would have bought it. Yeah. Oh, my God. I'd buy anything if it came with a Q-mask. Capcom sell Q-masks. I'd buy an ass-beating if it came with a fucking Q-mask. What does it even mean?

He's like, hey, man, I'll beat the shit out of you for $30, but you get this Q-mask. Bring it on, man. Yeah. It's a pretty good documentary. It breaks down just talking to important FGC people, talking to people that worked on these games, and then, to me, what was really interesting is going to talk to Harada and people that are working on other non-Street Fighter fighting games. Hey, guys.

What do you think about Street Fighter? Competitors. Hey, a creator of Virtro Fighter. What do you think about Street Fighter? He's like, I ripped that shit off. Yeah. He's like, Akira is such a gigantic re-ifier. Akira reminds me of the EGM, I think it was the final issue of EGM, where the Street Fighter

4 reveal, and the EGM guys went and talked to a bunch of those dudes to interview. It's like, dude, how do you dudes feel about Street Fighter 4? And they all went, that's sick. We're all super happy that Street Fighter is coming back. And some of them went so far as to say, I really hope Street Fighter 4 does well so that I can make more fighting games. The Virtro Fighter guy, too, that was really funny, because he did that quote in a very Japanese way, where he was like, hmm, I guess if you think about it nowadays, he really does

look like Ryu, doesn't he? That's the way he said it. He's laughing super hard. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. He knows it. Major nervous laughter. Also, they have cool parts where while Harada's talking, you get what you would call it, the director of CyberConnect.

He's like their best friends and stuff, and he's around there, too, because they're all like, they're surely the same offices. He's such a huge dork. He dressed up like Naruto, and he ran in the Boston Marathon. He's a true believer. And then he didn't, was it the Boston Marathon? I think it was France. Okay, it was, it was Marathon.

He ran a marathon, and then he didn't finish. And then the headlight was Marito fails. Yeah. He will never become Hokage. Yeah, really cool guy, though. Yeah, sure. He seems like a kind of guy you want to go hang out with, have some drinks in Tokyo with. He should hang out with the dudes that are also in this thing more often so he can learn

what good fighting games need. No, he knows. He just doesn't care. Yeah, yeah, you don't like that, dude. It's so depressing. Look, JoJo's low rankings and shit, and just not being good has like made me so unhappy with the space flow. Well, it's, it's, it, I bet you they just sat down and they said, okay, we can have,

we have two decisions. How much money do we want to put into fighting game? And how much money do you want to put into this game looking pretty for trailers? And then the three guys in the room all raised their hands and said, we don't know how to make a fighting game. Yeah. And Araki was basically like, this better look like my shit. Yeah.

He's in a weird like Alan Moore-esque position where JoJo's been fucked up all over the place and he was cynical. And it's a miracle that anime ever got off the ground. Yeah. So you better do him right. Yeah. No, it's just like, I don't. You oppose it, you.

No, it's just, I don't play the Naruto games, but like the gameplay has been getting better. Review scores have been climbing up. It has. Great, that's true. As sure as Wrath was really good looking and I was like, why couldn't we have both? That kind of above average. Because there's no time. There's no time.

Because money, Liam. No, and you know what? There was no time. There was no money. Because it needs to be. It's a real shame. It needs to be a joint studio affair. Yeah.

They need someone who has the experience on the engine to work with them so that they handle the visuals. We were talking about the Berserk PS2 game that no one's ever beaten and no one understands how to play. It's super hard. It's awesome. How I want an Asura's Wrath game, but with Berserk, but just no game, just cut scenes so that if you even need to play it, you know how to play it.

Or even better, the idea. When they didn't bring it over. The idea of an episodic download, JoJo, that was done as an Asura's Wrath style. Where this content is all based on pre-hype moments and pre-hype established shit. Just do it and make it faithful, guys. That would have been amazing. For the amount of DBZ, Naruto, and One Piece games that are all kind of, you know... Exactly the same?

Exactly the same. And they all get brought over and they all sell enough to justify the next one. And there's all these actual cool ideas that all of you guys... Hey, there's a big difference between Budokai and Budokai Tenkai Ichi. There is, actually. There is actual... One's like a fighting game and one's like a DBZ simulation game. I got into both.

I don't know why. Budokai's better, anyway. They're both Budokai. So, to get into some of the latest Hollywood talk... What? Movies and... What's Hollywood? Oh, right, guys.

Well, it's still related, though, because... That place smelled fake. Avi Arad is basically saying... Fuck that guy. Well, he's talking about Uncharted Movie, Mass Effect Movie, Metal Gear Movie. Again? They never went away. So, here's the news.

If you haven't been paying attention, or if you forgot... They're still in development. All three of them. In development? Or they were optioned, or what? They're still being... They're coming along. That's bullshit.

Metal Gear Solid Movie was announcing that Metal Gear 25th anniversary thing that everyone was laughing about until they revealed Ground Zero is towards Metal Gear. And now, we present the mug. And they show a mug. And then they talk about... And I remember everyone was watching this on stream and getting super pissed that there's no games! Where was Acid 3?

So far, so far of the three... That's barely a game. So far of the three, Uncharted has been listed as announced on IMDB. But Aviarad assures everybody that they're all coming along slowly. Uncharted was the most egregious. Because plot details of that movie got out. And they were the... It was about a family of antique hunting treasure hunters or something.

Like, what the fuck is this? The leak was awful. Brendan Fraser family. Yeah! Like, holy shit! The leak was awful, but I think it's the most believable of them all. It's a fucking Indiana Jones rip-off series! Just rip-off Indiana Jones!

No, there's no time. Yes, but just because Sony's so gung-ho on that right now. And Nathan Fillion... Oh, well. Just putting all north in it. In front of a camera, would you add your mind? He'll melt. He's crazy.

He already does the performance capture. But he looks too... He doesn't look like a guy anymore. They just make Drake look more like him in three. Yeah. Yeah, that's true. So, yeah, apparently... So, he thinks that it's gonna be a pretty successful friend.

Movie series or whatever. Yeah, I bet. He could be. Like, the MGS movie story, he's saying he relates it to Cain and Abel. So, obviously, we're looking at, like, the development of the twins. Yeah. And... The thing that scares me the most, and I've already been hurt like this from Hollywood,

is that there was a little movie called Resident Evil that came out, which about a game series that's near and dear to my heart. We hate you, Paul Anderson. Now, Paul W.S. Anderson. There's a different guy now. I know. I know. And Resident Evil was one of those games that's like,

well, you could easily turn this into a movie. Oh, God, what the fuck is this? And then it became this enormous runaway success. And it's the worst garbage ever. So much money. And it's the worst garbage ever. And if that happens to Metal Gear, I will die. I will fucking die.

And I'll watch those movies. I'll be happy with them. Revengeance directed by Mick G. That's basically where we're getting for. Now, to be fair, Revengeance is already kind of directed by Mick G. in a way. To be fair, I'll jump off your balcony and just, like... But what I mean is that, like, what's in Revengeance is something Mick G. would do. But he wouldn't do it.

Because he sucks balls. Vin Diesel is riding. I would do that. Man, I need to see someone do the Photoshop first. Then I'd make up my mind, you know? Just Vin Diesel with feathered hair. And, of course, Mass Effect, the most unnecessary of the game. Like, why?

Mass Effect's really hot. I really liked that last game, so... Whatever, I mean, what is there to say about it? Why not make another Blood Raid movie in this part? You know what? They'll give it to Star Trek, Star Wars, J.J. Just give it to J.J. and you'll find something to do with it. I really hope they do the Mass Effect movie, like the Clue movie, where there's three different endings and they show them each at different games.

That would work so good. Damn it. Clue movie, best video game movie ever. Everyone should go watch the Clue movie and watch a different ending from your friends, and then bicker. No, man, it was mustard, you motherfucker! Matt, what's happening with the Matt watch? The Matt watch...

Who's Matt stalking this week? Matt is... Not really, though, seriously. No, I'm not actually stalking. This is what's his cart obsession, guys. I'm not actually stalking anyone, particularly, but me and Pat, we talked about this. We're going to be doing an interview with two cool girls.

They have this local radio show called Funk Shwey. I thought it was Funky Shwey. Funky or Funk Shwey? I'm sorry, I have to look it up again. I'm pretty sure it's Funky Shwey 1690. You sound very sure. Maybe this can be Pat's stalks watch. Anyway.

I fucking read the message they sent us. Okay, wow. Just keep over there, stalker, anyway. So... We're going to be doing that with them on this Sunday, and so that should be really super fun, and they're really interested in it, and we're all going to be going to the Comic-Con

that's happening soon, where we're probably going to have another video or something. If some interesting things happen at the Comic-Con. There's also an interesting thing happening this Friday. I hope all your schedules are clear. Pretty clear. And I can't say what it is yet. Thanks for the fucking heads up.

I did, and it's a week ahead, so I don't think there's a problem. You're never chief. It's letter time, it's letter time. This is my favorite part of the show. Yeah, absolutely. Well, you know, if you guys have questions and stuff, we'll answer them in this segment on the show.

We'll blaze through them, and you've got to send your letters to a certain email address. You would send that to superbestfriendcastatgmail.com. What's that again? That's superbestfriendcastatgmail.com. Roll reversal. And then you might sound something like this. It would sound like Willie reading your question.

Chris says, Hey guys, which video game fanbase do you think has gotten the harshest fucking in the past couple of years? Screwed fanbases. Mega Man? How is this even a question? I'm going to agree with Mega Man.

We're starting out with double Capcom. Capcom is like a super victim of circumstance under a lot of cases, but I'm going to say Mega Man. So should we just say Capcom fans? Mega Man feels like the fair choice now, but the thing is that even though some of the blame like we established earlier is not their fault, it's circumstantial,

we're looking at this from the fanbase's point of view. I'm the guy, I just want to spend my money on Mega Man things because I like them. I'm getting fucked over. Over the years it says, or right now, in the recent past? The exact terminology is over the past couple of years. Okay, because I want to change my answer.

It's maybe not the best one, but I'm really upset about it. Where's Yakuza 5? Where's it? I want it. Give it to me. I don't think that constitutes a screwed fanbase. Where's Yakuza Kenzan? Where's that? The games don't sell here.

I don't give a fuck. That's not screwed over, Ben. Where's Black Panther 1 and 2? It's not screwed over. I'm being screwed out of the Yakuza game. That's not, you by yourself is not the whole fanbase. There's at least like 20 other guys. I know there is.

That's what the sales numbers say, 20 other guys. The Dragon of Dojima will fight again. I fucking hope so! I'm getting upset! Unfortunately, so go back to Mighty No. 9 if you don't, you're a huge hypocrite. What if they don't like Mega Man? Well, then you're not a Mega Man fan

and you're not getting the harshest screwing. Then you're not alive. Yeah, I don't exactly. We should go find somebody who doesn't like Mega Man and hit them with rocks. Joshua asks, could you guys clarify how you feel about Mirror's Edge 2? A couple of times you've given me the impression

that you've viewed the project negatively. Okay. So Woolly and you and I are the two biggest like Mirror's Edge nutsos around here, right? I'm just going to sit here with my silent boner and wait for you guys to finish. Basically the way I see it is that...

Why would it be a loud boner? Mirror's Edge to me was even more of a big deal than Dead Space. I love Survival Horror and I love that stuff. But it's just like, wow, this is really something new. I love this racing. The art... Oh, it's fucking awesome! Holy shit!

And that's followed by years of, hey guys, we might be making Mirror's Edge 2, but instead they cancelled it. So that's been the lead up and now the trailer came out and the trailer has Faith fighting a bunch of dudes instead of running

on top of a bunch of buildings and it makes me worried. It makes me scared that EA will... To me, it's what we've been hearing in the downtime that's really gotten me nervous because yes, it's been postponed and delayed and we didn't know what was going on,

but the one detail we did hear was that the main thing was that the team was divided amongst themselves between guys that wanted it to be more combat oriented and guys that said this is a fucking parkour game. And if you want Mirror's Edge to be more combat oriented, then fuck you get off the team.

I'm sorry. So remember, this is the battlefield team. Yes, I know. But you know what? You invented the first real parkour game that looks and feels and does everything in parkour justice. And it's awesome. And its visual direction is amazing.

Everything is over the top. Beautiful. You can tell it's amazing because everyone stole that red item shit. Why would you, in your right mind, want to go back and say, let's make it more like the other shit that's out there? If you want to look sales numbers out of it, then fuck it.

You want to work on another IP? Because you and I beat that game several times without ever firing a bullet. You had the only way to play. You want to be tiny little Asian girl Batman. Yes. And when you get to the end of the game, spoilers, you're in a server room

and there's these huge server racks and there's like 30 dudes with machine guns and you're zipping between the server racks and jumping off staircases and you're coming full and all. Bullets never stop. It's fucking awesome. You're like, great, I don't want to shoot guns. No, I'm not. My first play through was hard

and I didn't use any guns. That was such a breath of fresh air from any other first person game at the time. Right. You can't replicate that anywhere else. And as somebody who, again, I've gotten motion sickness as a kid so I didn't get into a ton of first person shooters

as they were becoming the new big default genre, therefore I don't have a massive affinity towards them. And when I see a game like this that stands out and you're trying to do something different, I have the utmost respect for it. So when I look at Mirror's Edge 2, I'm happy it exists. I'm super excited for that theory.

Your first thought, that's before you even play it. Now, I don't know if they've put in more combat or such, but I have to assume that they came to a happy medium that they decided this should make people that like the original happy and as well as probably expand to some new fans. You know what they also thought?

So I'm prepared for some changes. Dead Space 3. You know what? I don't believe you when you say that. I don't believe them when they say that. I bet there are a lot of guys on the Dead Space 3 team that were pretty fucking pissed off at the design decisions

that they had to implement into that game. In summary, I think what we can kind of say is we're hyper cautiously optimistic about Mirror's Edge 2. I'm super excited, but it has that EA logo on it. So it could be awesome despite itself, or it could just be

another Dragon Age 2. But it's the footprint and it's dice! Dragon Age 2 was a lot like this situation. It really was. It just changed like parkour game to like old-style PC RPG that doesn't exist anymore.

And then they said, hey, we're making this a sequel. And then everyone vomited. And guys, you know what? Hey, look, we got Brink. We got Brink, so we got the guns ready. And then the other Dead Island sequel game. Oh, Deadlock. We got them. They're there. They got the guns. So the guns are taken care of.

One even has the zombies! Just focus on the portfolio. I swear if there's zombies in Mirror's Edge 2, this is the end. There won't be zombies, but there'll be people that have had their mind wiped and thus will act like zombies. I will parkour off my building if they do that. I would watch you do that.

Hunter asks, quite simply, do you guys read any webcomics? I used to read them all the time. Me too. Oh, yeah. The only thing now I read is just whenever there's a new one, Castle Vidcoms. You showed me that? That is one of the best.

Yeah, Castle Vidcoms is great. It's also good because they only make one when there's news worth making one. Every couple months I go and read Saturday morning breakfast cereal. And I read, I just, you know, I go to the front page and say, that's funny. Back, back, back,

I remember this one. I'll see you in six months. No, same. Saturday morning breakfast cereal. Zach Wiener. You are a funny dude. Please keep making webcomics. Never stop. I like XKCD. And your name is Zach Wiener. XKCD is great.

Yeah, you would take that. That one that really showed me, I can't remember what it's called though. Perry Bible Fellowship. The Perry Bible Fellowship is my favorite of all time. We'll see, I would have said that, but Perry Bible Fellowship has been over forever. You go back and click the random button. It's the best. It's the absolute best.

I have never had so many belly laughs from a webcomic than with Perry Bible Fellowship. From a three-panel comic. I also really like Nedgeroid as well. Which one's that one, Zach? The Bear Tato and the Bird. Oh, right. I feel really weirdly about Nedgeroid

because every time I go and look at it, I go 20 comics. I'm like, okay. And then I hit 21 and then I'm like, I'm crying. I can't stop laughing. Party Cat. Yeah, Party Cat. Put Party Cat in the show notes, by the way. Tell people to Google it.

The era that I came from with this stuff, when I used to just go through my bookmarks of all of them. Yeah, I did the same thing. I used to read Sin Fest a whole lot. A lesson is learned, but the damage is irreversible. Is also really good. Never read that? Good title.

Really, really, really weird artsy. But yeah, it's out there. And you know what? I used to read 8-Bit Theater a lot. I think I read about 1700 strips of 8-Bit Theater. Am I right in saying that we all did at some point?

And then I lapsed for a couple years. I lapsed for a couple years and said, oh man, you know what? I used to really love to read 8-Bit Theater. I should go catch up. And then I got about 200 more strips and I was like, I can't do this anymore. I died. It's not the comic.

It's me. I change. It's not you. It's me. I used to read Penny Arcade and Manly Men doing Manly Things. Oh my god, yes. The punchline is Machismo. The punchline is Machismo. And I don't like that anymore.

And I still have a really soft spot for awkward zombie. She's great. Katie, I can't remember her name. Who's that lady who makes the awesome stuff about historical figures? Is it Kate Beaton? She's awesome. She's great. Fuck.

Goddamn it, yes. Give us a minute here, guys. You will find it and put it in the show notes. Yes. Another one that I just remembered. Parker Vigrant. That's some good stuff. Another one I just remembered is Alien Loves Predator.

It's just photos of action figures of aliens and predators and they live together in an apartment. I think the Predator's name is Jerry. I can't remember. It's something like that. That one was really funny for a while.

There's one that I can't remember that's killing me that's based on photos and like it's a three pound coin. I should have brought it up. Oh, and Control Out Delete. That's my favorite. Oh yeah, of course. You got a whole...

You might as well just say fucking VG cats. Just get it all out there while we're doing it. Oh man. No, no, no. Control Out Delete with the second and third panel deleted. Yeah, absolutely. Control Out Deleted

was my favorite webcomic of all time. But Control Out Delete is the best. To actually get into that. Everybody do your buckly faces. So, we're going to get sued now. The thing is C.A.D. Oh no. Oh no.

The perfect example of Control Out Deleted to me. Some guys decided, they realized you can make almost all of these comics funnier by just removing the second and third panels from them. The text. And the best example is the Bomberman wall strip. That's the first one. You see Bomberman sitting in an office

and the two FBI agents staring at him. And then the next panel is them going like what do you know about this situation, blah, blah, blah. And then talk to them. And then whatever. And then the fourth panel just them beating the shit out of him. Turn that into... There's the two edits. The first one was just no text

and they're just watching Bomberman and the final panels are beating the shit out of him. It's so much better. And then there's two other versions of that which is just the first and or last panel on its own works just fine. It's just...

Just edit yourself, guys. Just guys, you know. Another good example of taking out stuff is Garfield without Garfield. Garfield without Garfield. Garfield without Garfield is the slow descent of madness from John. Doesn't Shin Davis love it?

No, he's like it's better than my Garfield. Because all it is is John talking to himself and like just like going insane. It's really a modern piece on like society. Yeah, no. You say that in a funny way, but yeah.

No, it actually is. It actually is. It's really depressing. Okay. Next question we got from Rogelio? Sorry if we fucked your name up, bro. Or girl. Liam, what do you think

of Aniplex releasing anime at Japanese retail prices? Fuck that! I hate it! It's the worst! Why is Madoka like the disc? Fuck that! I would also like to chime in that I don't care about any of that shit, but Japanese retail anime

prices are the most outrageous criminal shit ever. Criminal is the understatement. I hate it. How much does that shit cost, Liam? Like 80 bucks of disc and you get scant. And how much is on the disc? Scant episodes. How what is scant episodes? Okay, I have a

Kaon Blu-ray from Japan. There are two episodes on it. It was $85. Yeah! Please support the official release of my ass! That makes the Gurren Lagann thing seem like a steal. I was about to go with this.

I was waiting for it to finish. So Matt, and we were talking about this before, there's a Gurren Lagann Ultimate Collectors Edition box set. It is the most beautiful thing. They certainly put the work into it. The cases are laser disc size.

It's the entire series. And it's both movies. Soundtrack. The series is subbed and dubbed. The movies are subbed as well. Anything that has ever been released relating to Gurren Lagann is in this set. And it's all in the most beautiful presentation.

And like multiple pull-out boxes with the best art you've ever seen. And it costs $800. And you're like, fuck! Because I would actually consider this. And then you're like, fuck! The entire paycheck for a lot of people. Or for some people, multiple paychecks.

For background for you guys, Anaplex got a hold of the Madoka license. Which is of course a pretty hot thing right now. And I believe it's six episodes to the disc. $80 a disc. And that's, sorry. I believe those are the prices for the DVD version.

Shut up. That sounds about right. I looked at the prices once and I said fuck this. The Persona 4. More or less. The Persona 4 anime stuff, if I remember correctly, was $90 for three episodes of Blu-rays.

And then I think it was $100 for the final two. Which had the true ending. Which was never aired. And that was only two episodes. And here it was, I want to say $70 for the Blu-ray of half. And then $70 for the latter half.

But in order to more accurately fuck you and prevent reverse importing, they stripped out all of the original dialogue and we only got dubs. No, they're now sitting in the room with the oil tycoons and fucking gas guzzler, like do gas

price setters. Deciding on what they need to put out Azumanga Dio at. Oscar asks, guys, how do you feel? Let me just read it. Read a little more carefully.

Pretty much all I wanted to ask about was what your feelings were on the not so new but new Dread movie in general. Oh, okay. I didn't see it, I'm out. We went to go see it. That sucks because Dread is fucking awesome.

I was busy. Dread is super awesome. And the other interesting thing about Dread is that everyone that worked on Dread is like, we can't, you have to show interest in a sequel. We all want to make one. And we actually

made quite a bit of money on DVD and Blu-ray or whatever, but we want to make a Dread a sequel because we thought we did it really well and fans of Dread really love it and the original comic creators love it. It showed me that the Raid Redemption wasn't just a fluke in terms of, okay,

they got it right with the formula of one small building, one small case to deal with. It was something that actually can work with like a superhero movie where you go you're in the world, this is your guy, fuck it, let's just go. Just in case before no one goes over this,

if anyone listening to this has not seen the Raid Redemption and likes action movies and or kung fu movies, you should probably watch the action movie. I actually want to redact your statement and say if anyone out there hasn't seen the Raid Redemption and likes anything, go see the Raid Redemption.

Do you like things? Especially if you like horrible murder. Yeah. I know a couple of people that like, man, what a fucking overrated piece of shit movie Raid Redemption. And I was like, okay, well, you're off my friends list. But Dread, fantastic from the get go and before the movie comes out,

dude is like, we never see Dread's face in the comic books, I'm a huge fan of Dread, therefore, as I'm playing him, I will never take this mask off. Yeah, no, of course not. The only scene he takes his mask off is the scene that they show his shoulder or whatever. And he has his mask off

because he's got to take it off. And that never happens because actors are like I need my face twice as big. If I'm a superhero, I need to have the damaged version. So let's just go out. Right? What was his name?

Toby McGuire and fucking Spider-Man 3. Oh, I'm sure that wasn't his thing. No, or just X-Men in general. Just all our actor faces everywhere, guys, you can't put actors in costumes, fuck that. Remember Hugo Weaving in V for Vendetta. Or

Edward Norton in Kingdom of Heaven. Ed Norton's in Kingdom of Heaven? Yes. Anyone want to take a guess? That's an amazing movie. Kingdom of Heaven, let me think about this. Kingdom of Heaven

is a movie that you can't fucking get away with weird bullshit super masks. So the most common mask you can manage is old guy makeup. Executioner? No, you're all the way off. Not old guy makeup? No, the Lepper King, the guy with the mask.

Oh, shit. Oh, I didn't see that. He's the main character. We need to tell everybody, make sure you watch the director's cut. The director's cut of... It is shocking. I've never seen a director's cut of a movie be so awesome.

And the regular cut of the movie be so media. Another Ridley Scott movie that was butchered on its way to there. So we just say Kingdom of Heaven, you might have seen that and that was a piece of shit what you guys talking about. We're talking about the director's cut. Yes. It changes everything.

In summary, Dread was fantastic. Dread was fantastic. It'll also give the presidents of like, don't do an origin story, do a day in the life of a superhero. Yeah, absolutely. Not a superhero, but like an fictional character. That's how you do the whole thing.

And without getting into spoilers, there's parts of that where when we were watching it, I was just like, and count up the budget counter in the corner. I was just gonna mention that. 1 million, 2 million, 3 million, as the seconds go by of money

being injected into that one scene. That point stands, but it didn't cost a whole bunch to make them. But you could feel the moments where they injected money. Cersei Lannister plays another bad guy in this movie. She's actually slightly worse than Cersei. No way.

She's actually worse. It's amazing. How do you dig even deeper into your bitch core? I like that bitch core. It's amazing. So, Pat asks.

That's confusing. Guys, I hope you read my email. I don't know how applicable this is to everybody. I hope it is applicable. This is my favorite Gundam mobile suit. Oh. If you guys have one. Mine, right off the bat,

the F91 G Cannon from Gundam F91 is the hottest shit ever. Super cool design. Clean, greenish white, and two giant ass guns on its shoulders. This is where everyone finds out that I only watch Dwing. That's okay.

But you and a lot of people... I watch even less than you. Sorry, that's not horrible that we can fix that with. Oh, I have... Work your way over to Char's Counter Attack, no problem. I have a really cheap answer for this one. You're gonna hate me, but like... Don't fucking say Zaku.

Don't say strike. Char's Zaku, I'm sorry. Char's Custom Zaku, fine, that's it. The one from Unicorn. I can't remember what it's called. The Gundam Unicorn? No, but there was one in Unicorn that just had fucking pods everywhere.

Yeah, see, the problem with Gundam is that the person that we know that's in the Gundam is the worst person in the world convincing you. And whenever he says, hey man, you should watch this, I go, great, now I know not to watch it, because fuck you. If anyone out there was unfortunate enough to make it through Gundam Seed

and Gundam Seed Destiny, I'm sorry, I apologize. It's your fault. But go and watch Stargazer, which is the 3 minute sort of side story. Not 3 minutes, sorry, 15 minute side story that's alongside it, never has 15 minutes out shone,

out shone. Out shone, 52 episodes of garbage, so thoroughly. So, there's that. If I had to pick one, I only saw a wing and I've seen little bits and pieces of the other. The Mercurious. Okay, that's fine.

The electric shield stuff and the dagger on a mobile, it's cool. The thing that I like to bring it into your world is basically heavy arms, right? The one that's all about the fucking equipment. And you guys like guns? I fucking love guns. Good, because this guy's got some guns.

Daka, daka, daka, daka. What about you, Matt? Death's Scythe. You're a Gundam Wing guy? Did you even watch it or did you just play Endless Walls? No, I played Endless. Endless School, but I know I watched some Wing,

but honestly, like Gundam Wing was the one here, so like... Plus it had all the Beast Wars guys. Yeah, exactly. So for me, Wing was in this weird place because I saw it and all I could think of was, this is just like that Technoman show.

That show was awesome. Technoman plays fucking radical. How fucking sick was it when he showed up in Tatsunoko vs. Tatsunoko? You were so sick! Oh, man. Okay, and

Matt, if you want to just kinda quickly review what's going on on the channel now that we have the open horizon. The infinite horizon that stretches beyond us. Infamous? You know what? The infinite horizon.

The infinite bitch core of the channel. It's infinite and infamous at the same time. It's the infinite horizon. You guys can go fuck yourselves. Well, some people know that we just started Killer Is Dead and we ran into some complications with some other games we were going to

play. But we picked a new one to play. That should be showing up this week. Yes, it should be. Keep your eyes peeled for some other cool fighting based things in the near future. We also have

maybe one or two one-offs that we've recorded and haven't had the time to put up. Yeah, I guess that's it. 10s more WrestleMania though. That's not true. And where can they check this stuff out? They can check it out at just put two best friends play into

YouTube and you'll just get us on the second thing. It's far easier to do. The name of the channel is the switcher and the eye and the switcher is a one instead of an eye. So check us out there and check out the Facebook because we post a lot of random stuff up there

that people miss on the channel sometimes. It's really funny. We get some comments. Yeah, those comments are pretty good. So honestly, if you're checking this out through the YouTube channel but you haven't checked out the Facebook yet, come find us. Also, Pat really gave that

the best friends I bought to blog and they're like super thankful. But there's the other one. There's the other blog. And I saw the other blog guy was kind of like oh, I wish they would notice me too. That's what, fuck you at two best friends play, I'm saying. Okay, okay, well it was the other one.

There's the third one as well. Get to them next time. There's the TBF quotes. That one's really good. She's really good and she does some funny stuff and like she also quotes some of the weirder, crazier things

completely out of context. I have to say to all those guys listening to this who are part of that or all those guys and guys that are part of these groups, I think the funniest thing that I've ever seen in my life is something that I have said so far long ago that I don't know

why I said it. No, just in general, but it is so removed from context that I struggle to understand where this was coming from. What could have possibly driven me to say this stupid thing? And now that it happens.

Okay, you know what, look, the senpais are noticing. So let's just we're thankful to all the Tumblr people. Shout out to the wiki guys as well. Two best friends wiki is really elaborate. Thank you to best friends place subreddit. Thank you to the guys on the TV trope site that keep that going.

Those dudes are nuts! Yeah, it's crazy. The level of thoroughness there. But I think the wiki is surpassing it at this point. Yeah, I think so. So you guys should fight! You should fight! What blew my mind on the wiki,

I was telling Matt, was when I noticed that not only was each Russell Mania episode going up they were having little checkboxes at the bottom for who was Russell than un-Russell. Notes! I was like, what? I remember the percentage of Russell was something like 47. It was, yeah, I was like that. I don't know what it had to be.

Is your number from them, not from you? Yes. Wow. Good job you guys. Guys, we need more rustling data. Do you have your notes? Give me all the data! That sounds pretty good.

Did you just remember where that was from? Then I'll be swallowed by your evil! What? Street Fighter Alpha, the movie is terrible! Remember that stupid doctor? He'd be like, give me all the data! Sadler! And he'd be all the data!

Show me your evil! Ugh, fuck that. That kid was going to get spinning piledrived so hard! Yeah, he was. Oh man. Alright guys, we'll see you next week. Take it easy. Bye!