Castle Super Beast - SBFC 006: Nothing Good Ever Comes In A Bucket

Episode Date: September 17, 2013

Hot off the Comic-con circuit and still on wrestling high, the Friendcast take turns as a Capcom CEO, break down Child of Light, Steam sharing, Nintendo account policies, JJ Abrams hating the Star Trek game and Hyper Light Drifter, and SNK PC releases. Got a question for us? Send it to: [e-mail]

The only thing that the bucket can symbolize that's good for you, is that the bucket is taking a bad thing away. Yeah, yeah, yeah. The bucket is a savior, yes. Or even that, the only way it can be good is if you look in, there's nothing in it. But that's just unusual. And like, fuck like the plastic pale idea. I'm thinking of like the metal, sweet little bucket.

Aluminum tin bucket. There's never anything real. It's just a little bit rusted along some of the edges. One, the handle too, when you lift it, you hear it. You feel that? Yeah, exactly. Oh, that's great. If you want people to stay away from your house, just put a bucket in front.

You're not transporting our clothing. And as you get it, like, the whole witness is just turned away. Just turned away. It reminds me of my childhood. I lived on a farm. I got the buckets everywhere. It's filled with nails and nails. That's so moe.

I know. I really want to show where it's plagued with gripes and Liam just tending fields. You get out, yeah, nails. Yeah, I guess. I was thinking of like buckets with like seal washing noises. Like organic things. The stationary bucket that you're too far away to quite see above the edge. So you're just like, is that just a bucket?

Or is that the moment that's going to ruin the rest of my life? Or even the upside down bucket, right? Where you're like, what's under there? What's under there? Check this out. Can you see the buckets? It's not good. Hey everybody, welcome to the podcast.

Welcome to the bucket show. Yo, I like that. That's not bad. Yeah. Again, again, for those who are just joining us for the first time, I'm Woolly. I'm Pat. I'm Matt. I'm Liam.

And this is the super best friendcast. This time around, we're going to be going over, you know, some of the current news. I'm going to be honest, it's not been the fastest really shitty news week. It ain't great, but we've fortunately had a pretty eventful weekend and lots of cool shit has went down. So we're going to talk about how that went down. We're going to debut, try debuting a segment or two, right? See how that works out. Going to do some general video game news as usual.

Talk about some of that fighting game shit. There's always more. We've got, of course, the, again, I'll just call it pop culture section because it's anime, it's movies, but it's both and sometimes nothing. Both and whatever. And you know, it might even be music sometimes. You know what? It's just like, hey guys, hey guys, what you thinking about?

Yeah. Just twirling your feet, right? Yeah. I don't know. Pop culture stuff. Twirling your hair. They're like, what? Have you guys seen the new One Direction album?

Oh my god. I don't know who those people are. Didn't their movie just come out? We're not doing this. Yeah, no. The movie just came out. The family members are just waiting to see it. They're doing it.

Make them sigh. Make them shut the fuck up. But as an aside, that movie is also good in the sense that it has the biggest drop-off of money that it made ever, like, recorded or something. It's like the JoJo's Bizarre Adventure or the Star Battle of the movie. Wow. Yeah. Should we just jump?

No. Not there yet. It was an 80% drop in revenue after one week for that One Direction movie. I love it. It went One Direction, all right. Oh! Right there. We're done.

Podcast over. Thanks for listening, guys. See you next week. And then we're going to just cut to the killer instinct music. Yes. I don't know. Then we're going to have our little nightcap with the matte watch. Sure.

We're going to go into some Q&A from you guys, and we're going to give you some updates on what's happening in the channel, although they're barely really updates. They're just kind of like... Here's what's going on. But there may be updates soon. Exactly. Because I keep checking the channel every day. So with that being said, Pat, how was your week?

I went to Comic-Con, and then I immediately left Comic-Con. I walked in for about two hours and said, fuck this, I can't deal with these nerds. I'm really glad. You lasted longer than I thought. Oh, man. We had a pool. Yeah. I'm glad that you're doing this yourself, though, because we were asked by so many people.

Straight up. Because you ran into a bunch of people. Pat was in here, and he was tearing his beard out because he can't handle the smelly, gross crowds, and doesn't give a fuck about comic books. What a shame. We have lots of talk about it. We had great things to talk about it. It was a good time.

So instead, I'll talk about how I recently watched all the Berserk movies for the first time. And they fucking radical. They are so close to the manga. It's great. I love how they get better. They do get better. Right? One was pretty good.

Two's really, really good. And the third one is so good that it made me depressed, which is what I wanted. Yes. If Berserk didn't make you depressed, Berserk failed. Well, exactly, right? Remember that friend that we had? And it's like, this gets into a whole topic of just like a girl, right? No, it doesn't matter.

It's a nebulous person that is everyone. No, I just want to make sure that we're talking about the same person. Yeah. Like we shared Berserk with this person and she got to the end of it and it made her sad. Therefore, it sucks. Yeah. And it's like, did nobody do the same exact thing in the rain?

And it's one of the most frustrating things when sharing media with people is like, do you not understand the concept of if it makes you feel bad, it was because that's what they were trying to do? It moved you. They were successfully manipulating your emotions. Good job. Like they, they won. And you're like, no, bad emotions equals failure.

I don't like it. It goes to the kind of thing. It's like, I watch movies to relax. I play games to have fun. Yeah. It's like, but that doesn't mean these things can't be more than that. Yes. If she went to us and it was like, oh, how, what did you think of the end of Berserk?

And she went, I feel great. Oh, yeah. That's, feeling limber. Like what? You'd be a little worried. You'd be a little worried. I would rub my beard. Yeah.

And I know a person that might be like that, but. Oh yeah. Really quickly. I know someone else, completely different person who watched the first 10 minutes of up and hated the rest of the movie. And it was like, the movie's awful. That's a perfect example. Cause it made me feel emotions.

I don't like that. Up drops the hardest feels on you in like, at the 10 minute mark. Yeah. Absolutely. And if you can't handle the concept of, again, movies moving you as they're intending to, then you're just going to be confused and be like, this is bad. No dude. Movies are like transformers and bad boys.

Yeah. Yes. Yeah. That's all movies should be. Truly pinnacles of human achievement right there. And games should just be call of duty. If you don't like, Oh, you're right.

You should just give yourself over to the machines and just make them like, just be a light bulb. Right. Right. Wow. Yeah. Wow. A little much there. Is it?

Yeah. A little bit. Have you seen up? I saw up. Well. There you go. That's the way to put it. God, fuck that shit.

It's so bad. What's going on with you, Matt? Well, I went to Comic Con. I had a super big blast. I mean, like we went to E3, me and Pat, and it was, it was pretty good. We played some cool games, but I didn't really have fun. E3's for work, man. E3 was for work, but like this, I just had fun and like, there's that I want to own.

There's this I want to own. Can I possibly decide what are these first world problems I am feeling right now? Um, but I guess the coolest thing like was just the sheer amount of fans and how I guess we're kind of getting used to it. Yeah. Again, E3 was always a little bit awkward, but, um, all the fans like met and I got three different gifts, which was, that was a little awkward because we never got those before. Surprising, but still really cool though.

Uh, I just want to point out, we didn't get his name, I don't think, but there's like a 10 year old kid that came up to us on the first day. Wow. And it was like, oh my God. And his mom was like, oh, are you the guy? Oh yeah. And we're like, why do you let your 10 year old child? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

So it makes, it makes him happy. That kid reminds me of me and that I was watching a bunch of shit I wasn't supposed to get my hands on. And the best part of that was like, like as they're walking away, it was like, we're like, why are you letting your kid listen to this? Don't do that. It's like, oh, you know, it's, it's fine. He likes your stuff.

But like, um, and she's like, like, why? What's, what's the big deal? It's like, oh, because we say a lot of bad things. And I'm just like, and it's a terrible show. Yeah, it's a terrible show. Sometimes when you're confronted with a parent honesty is the best part. She's like, yeah, I know I've seen it. That brawl was awfully edited.

That was just terrible. But yeah, um, possibly of one. Uh, and we, we, me and Willie hung out with some cool cosplayers on the second and third day. Yep. I believe Mary, Sam and Sam. There's two Sam's. Yes.

Mary, Sam and Sam. Yeah. They're all super cool. They helped us with a mask that Willie wears. We'll see it in, in a video. We actually have an hour of footage. Holy shit. All together.

I thought we were scraping. Some of it is like, you know, waiting for things to happen because people are in the shots, whatever. Yeah. Total raw footage is like twice as much guaranteed. That's way more than I thought. Yeah. It's really cool.

It's like, it's like an hour and one minute. But, uh, so I, we're not going to go into spoilers, but some lots of cool stuff happened. Yeah. Some comic book related stuff. I won't go into it now. I realize I should probably keep it and make sure to check the channel. Exactly. This week.

Hey, that's an update. That's an update. Yeah. I'll remind everyone at the end to make sure to watch it. No, you won't. You'll forget. I think I'll remember. I'm a rising superstar.

Yeah. Uh, not going to Comic Con. Uh, I spent way too much money at the anime convention recently. So like, I'm not a huge fan of like more commercial conventions anyway. So I just didn't go and I really regret not going at the end. Does it have the soul in it to the anime convention? I'm not to say people ask, two people ask, where's Liam? Yeah.

And I really regret not going like, cause I realized you guys were recording in the end and man, that would have been fun. Um. Well, like I said, the, the main difference is that like your anime conventions are more about like panels, events inside things. Whereas the Comic Con is really just dealer's room. Yeah. Well, hey, do you want some swag?

It has tons of panels, but we didn't like look into them. No, not much. It's not as robust in that, in that area. It probably isn't. Um, cool things that happened this week. Madoka Magica, the battle pentagram announced for Vita, that's fucking hype. Uh, I played Wonderful 101. Yeah!

It's, it's so good. Like the demo and the director's trailer don't even scrape how good it is. How far are you into it? Uh, played five hours. I finished four missions. When? Yesterday. Sunday.

Oh, sorry. Sorry. Yesterday was Monday, guy. Oh, right. It wasn't. It wasn't. Sunday. Yeah.

Stop! You were, and you were actually telling us, uh, or telling about how crazy long this game is. Dude, it, like, I don't, I don't know how many missions there are. What? Content! I've so much content. But a Kamiya game that's long?

Well, how long was... Oh, Kami! Oh, Kami! You know what? I, I'm gonna just shut up. Yeah. Um, like, I don't know. I'm gonna five hours in and I don't really see the end in sight.

Uh-huh. And, like, that was the same for Beyo, actually. Does it feel like it's padded? No. Okay, great. Boy, does it not feel padded. I, like, I still haven't gotten to the shmup section. Okay.

There's shmup sections? There's shmup sections. Man, if it be, I'll go, will it be, it can't be to Kami. But like... Oh, no. No way, no. Kami's 60 hours! What?

90 hours saved by blower spiders out of my memory car. Mirror and peas can't be to Kami. Um, and I started watching this anime. I'm not even gonna say the name, because you're all gonna tell me to shut up. Shut up! Just tell us the name. Yeah, don't set yourself up like that. Just tell us the name.

It's called Love Live School Idol Project. So, Willie, what did you do this week? This weekend was really good, actually. No, if he's continued. No, Willie, what's his written name? It's, it's like Idol Master in High School. You can go, Willie. Okay.

All right. All right. You know, the man knows. He's straight up, like, he's straight up, like, looking at the ground and, like, toying with his skirt. People think, shut up with my skirt. People think worse. We set him up to, like, know his character.

You should have a picture to talk about this, Liam. You know, like, we're, like, pushing some kind of character angle. Guys, we don't do that. What you don't hear is all the bullshit he says to us outside of the podcast room that we just say, shut the fuck up, Liam. Um, so, yeah, like, like, you know, the aforementioned, like, we had a great, great weekend with, uh, the fans, all that great stuff. I was really hyped to see how many people actually really recognized this.

I think... It was shocking. It was, it was quite shocking, more than, at any other event. I think all three days, like, maybe, like, 50 people saw this. So, the thing is, is that, like, because I look pretty distinct, I'm, I'm used to, like, people randomly... A beacon, if you will. Yeah.

No, I'm used to randomly getting stalked out in public and then at, like, fighting game tournaments and things like that. I heard a friend of mine saw you this week and she texted me and she was like, Willie didn't recognize me and I'm like, oh, but you guys met and he's like, I know. Oh. Oh. That's even worse. Did you meet a certain friend?

I met somebody that said, like, uh... A friend of Liam's. A friend of Liam's, yeah. Yeah. And I said, oh, hi, yeah. That was a... But I, I didn't remember. That's okay.

I'm sorry. Oh, no, I'm not criticizing you. Okay. She was like, oh, I wish, I wish you would have remembered who I was. I'm sorry. Senpai did not notice. Senpai forgot after being directly introduced to me. And that means she received a cruel reminder.

Aw. No, but we really... But we really actually, like, enjoyed everyone's coming up and having fun. Man, shout-outs to those... Is it a spoiler? Fuck it, I'll spoil it. Those two kids that had a Wayne's Marvel sign. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

I love you guys. Those kids also gave me a WWF steel cage challenge. Yes. For the NES. Kids gave you a NES game? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't know their ages, but I looked at them and they were like, wow, this is our demo. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

And I have to say, because it's just reminding me, the guy that gave me the Punisher comic, which I didn't own. Yes. That's amazing. Well, Punisher touches up like cap. Alex. His name is Alex. Thank you, Alex.

Wow, good. That's the most Mac comic ever. So why wouldn't it? And towards the end of the day, because I have his business card, so I'll remember, a guy gave two of his prints. He was in the artist's alley and he gave two prints, which were Avenger Time. Yes. And it was just basically Adventure Time characters as Avengers.

So thanks, Alvaro. It was super nice of you. Sweet. And the other notable thing about the weekend was we got to check out the McFauley show, and I had a blast at that. That was really fun. You go to a lot of comedy shows, isn't that true? Yes.

I'm a big fan of stand-up comedy. How do you think he stacked up? He stacked up quite well. And the thing is, but I already knew this, because he's a frequent guest on Open Anthony. So I kind of knew that he knows how to work a mic. He's on a daily show recently also. Yeah. And do kills.

So McFauley is really good at not wrestling as well. And in this case, we had a really extra special show because while he was doing it, he brought out this really funny imitator that did like a Good Stone Cold in DDP. He told the famous cookie story that we love. Yeah. If you guys don't know. It was a stage show. Yeah.

The whole story. We can't waste the time going into it, but if you guys don't know, go look up the McFauley, Steve Austin, and Diamond Dollar's page cookie story. I'm sure we'll have an excerpt from his audio book on YouTube. Exactly. It's hilarious. And then as a surprise twist at the end, Bret Hart was in the audience. I thought you were going to say, as a surprise twist, mankind takes off his face and it spins.

It was me. Comic Con. It was me. Oh, it was at Comic Con. Yeah. Oh, cool. It was like an after event show. Oh, I didn't know that.

Yeah. Wrestling was a major thing there because they had Kevin Nash, Y2J, these dudes were all there. And the funny part was, yeah, so Bret Hart joined mankind thing on McFauley on stage, and they did a Q&A for the rest of the show, which was really fun. We wanted to walk around the show and hopefully get some footage of some wrestlers. They fucking sucked because you couldn't do anything really. Yeah.

They had them all and like, you know, you can't take photos, you can't take videos. Do they have them all in glass cages? They were pretty much like, they were isolated into a corner with big like guards and stuff. But we were looking for Y2J in particular, and then we realized, where was he? Oh, he's behind those big black walls. They put the walls of Jericho up around Y2J. Whoa. How are we going to find him?

We got to break the walls. Hopefully maybe if we break them down, we'll find him. You know? It was really bad. Like, you said you knew once somebody that did get to see him, someone texted me. Yeah, yeah, someone texted me and said, like, yeah, he got inside, and you go through the spiral barrier into the black slick. You go into the spiral nemesis to find fucking Y2J.

You ascend the metatron, and then you make your way into like, you know. It was really weird that you can see Bret Hart, you can see McFauley, but Y2J is hidden. Yeah, it was weird. But that was a really good time. So that was my weekend. Yeah, so moving on from that, we're going to talk about what was happening with the various companies of the video game industry and how their weekends have been going. Oh, we're jumping right to this one.

We're going right into it. Let's do it. So we're going to date? I want to take first shot at this, just like something to say. I'm sure you do. I'm sure you do. So we have a little segment we want to call Armchair CEO. Okay.

We want to give shout outs to the guy who came up with that. Shout outs to Fred. Shout outs to Fred, who came up with Fred. Our buddy Fred came up with this idea, and it's pretty cool. I like the concept of it. It's like, in general, you can have fun going, all right, pick a company out there, probably one that's not doing so great or having some trouble. You have to, like, pretend you are now the man in charge.

You can't change what's already rolling. Well, you can't drastically alter courses of action. Yes, things that are announced are pretty much happening. Unless you have a really good reason to cancel. Exactly. How do you steer this boat back on course? Or to whatever course you're searching for. Wherever it goes.

Liam. So the subject of the day is, of course, Cap Capom. No, Cap Capom. Never forget. Who reported that. I almost forgot. $142 million. I thought it was $156.

I think it's $142. I heard $178. That's a really quick way to find out, but the bottom line is that they strapped for about $150 million cash. The least profitable turnover since 2005. Yeah. Now, the one caveat I want to get out of the way before anything is Monster Hunter 4 came out on Saturday.

And that's going to help a lot. I just crunched some numbers real quick. That's worth at least $50 million on a bad day. I saw pictures of those lines. Lines in Japan for games. They are pretty much jumped up to $200 million. You know what, another JoJo game? If they secured that license again.

Anyway. So, you know, like Capcom, yeah, they've been doing pretty shit. I'm really happy to hear that they are slowing down their works with Western companies. Granted, Strider here, you look fucking awesome. Who's making that again? Double Helix. Yeah. But come on, they're making Killer Instinct.

Yeah. Why would you say that? And they helped. He's not the guy. And they helped kill Silent Hill. They helped kill Killer Instinct. Which was doing super well beforehand. Anyway, I think they're tweaking their Western partnerships fine.

And I mean, if they do want to do more partnerships, just pick your companies more carefully, you know, way forward. They're a good one. As far as like Japan goes, I think they need to start doing partnerships there because there are so many small, tiny companies who work on like 10k sales a year and just make it by do some partnerships, get Breath of Fire out to like alpha systems. You know, one of those guys who's reliable but small and don't cost much.

You know, just make something happen with your legacy franchises. And like most importantly, the thing that I would say is just Mega Man X9. Are we at that now? Yeah, that would be the one. Make Mega Man X9 a thing and just make it all platforms. Just go crazy. On every platform. Exactly.

And then like also just take some of your legacy IPs and be like, hey, you guys want exclusives? Like we got some money. So yeah. Yeah. I'll follow up on that because I mean, honestly like... We're all doing Capcom? Yeah, well that's what it is.

Capcom is the subject of the day. Aren't you a CEO? Who would we most want to be in Capcom? Right. They know we've got a lot in our hearts. A lot of weight in our hearts for that company. So like, yeah, I mean, I have to kind of like, it's kind of biting, but I have to tag on that idea.

I think the key would be to absolutely like expand and work with other companies that can do the things that you used to do good better than you now. And as well, respecting your older IPs because frankly, look, we know new IPs have a lot of power and can go really far if you push them, right? And they want a Dragon's Dogma to sort of be that massive, massive thing. It turned out okay, but it wasn't the next Monster Hunter, right? Which it was clearly supposed to be. They were really trying.

But you go back to what people are just crying for over the ages and just deliver that content. There's nothing wrong with your old IPs. One thing that they did announce they are doing that I would do as well if I were in that position is actually give a shit about DLC. Because the truth is they really haven't been supporting it with the exception of... Evil shit? RE6 and Street Fighter Cross Tekken.

RE6? Okay, but those are two examples of tons of DLC and one's doing well and one's like the worst way to do it. RE6 had a ton of post-game support and like fun modes. To the point of completely fixing some of the game's huge problem. I still think that Tetris Attack mode is really cool. Well, let's be real. You want to Tetris Attack mode in every video. Who does it? Who in their right mind does it?

But the right idea is to actually come out with this shit that people are holding their dollars up for. And when I look at the fact that they're supporting their fighting games or at least some of them with lots of DLC and like Street Fighter's still getting updates and whatnot people have been crying for a Marvel thing and there's licensing deals to work out. There's problems there. But you can still hang on to these things and make a decent amount of profit because like they said, they only made 14% profit off of DLC whereas every other company made an average of 40%.

Like you're really ignoring a core section if you're not paying attention to that. Just a quick aside on DLC. So like obviously there's terrible DLC like Horse Armor and then there's like fine DLC like Costumes and Street Fighter which are two distinctly different things. If you want to use the two best examples of bad versus good DLC there's nothing better than Oblivion which has the Horse Armor which is the worst DLC ever.

But on the flip side. Versus Shivering Isles, the expansion that came out which was one of the best DLCs. Exactly. So obviously we're advocating the good DLC side and we're not advocating Horse Armor. Yes. And no isolated characters blaze blue style for $10 a pop because it's really unfortunate stuff. You're just destroying like the core balance of the game.

You're destroying the core. Like anyone that's trying to get into this that wants to just have a tight package that they understand they're going to get confused with this mix and mash of characters. Like don't do that. You need to do it like Street Fighter where it's like an expansion pack. Yes. And a one big move. Exactly. Anyway, on to you Pat.

I don't know how to put this. Maybe this means I'm not a very good CEO but the main thing that first day I'm armchair CEO Who do you fire? Everyone in metrics, everyone who handles data, everyone on the board, they're gone. They're fucking so far. Everyone who is ever involved with the words Capcom test is gone.

Anyone who said anything about projection of sales. The projection of sales because those people are the people who totally failed Capcom. They don't get a box to package it. None of them were ever able to predict a fucking thing for how Capcom was going to go. They weren't able to predict how any of these western developed games were going to do.

They weren't able to predict how people would react to stuff in Street Fighter Cross Tekken. And it ended up through like the past 10 years producing this profound feeling of cynicism in their company that caused all of their talent to fucking leave. I think to put some context to what you're talking about you should explain like the DMC sales expectations that people kind of understand how bad.

Okay, so the Devil May Cry series was a breakout new IP, the perfect idea of a new IP back in the PS2 era. DMC once sold like what, under two million, but like 1.7 kind of thing. DMC two sold two million. DMC three sold 1.4 million. And then these Capcom executives who appeared to be around because you keep hearing the same things over and over

said that since DMC four was near and early of a generation and was going to catch the audience by storm it was the first double skew or triple skew MT framework DMC game that itch itself five million copies. It then sold like three and a half. And it was counted as a complete disaster and failure. The best in the franchise by a huge margin, especially in relation to like the gains they got

off of using MT framework and just boarding it to different stuff. So they said we need more, what do we need? We need to reboot it. They reboot it with Ninja Theory. Ninja Theory kind of does a shit job. And so they pull it sooner off of whatever the fuck he was working on.

And he just works with them every day for months to just kind of try to fix it. It comes out, gets rave reviews from critics, gets the hate forever from all the Capcom die hard fans who will refuse to buy shit in the future just because of fury. And those same people want to prove themselves right and they say that it did really, really well, even though it's the worst selling Devil May Cry game

of all time. It sold, I think, 1.2 million copies. It's the Dragon Age 2 of Capcom. So what we say is from the armchair down the line, if we follow up your ideas and these concepts, eventually Capcom brings DMC back to Kamiya. Yeah, and they should. And they should.

And that's the end of it. They took people. They said we don't know how to make fighting games anymore. Nobody who works here makes fighting games. Why? Because we drove all those people away by being total shits in the 90s. Well, we want to win fighting games now.

The market's there. Just hire those guys' companies back. Ditch. And just make them. What are you guys up to? Right? And just as long as you get rid of this disgusting, weird projection-based cynicism that has no basis in reality,

because these people don't know what the fuck they're doing, you could get Kamiya back. And he would totally work on it again. And he'd work on it for cheap. The problem, though, is that it's so easy to get people to invest when you can throw projections at them. It's when you're throwing what looks like hard numbers up on a screen. This will do call of duty numbers.

And the main thing that's killed Capcom, or is going to kill Capcom, it will kill Capcom. Like, it's not dead quite yet. I think it'll hurt Capcom. Or get it in the end. Name them terribly. Is that critically wound.

Is that there's nobody there left to tell them that DMC will never make call of duty numbers. That Street Fighter will never be call of duty. It will never be Madden. And to just know what you're going to make, and then fucking make it, and know that if you keep these IPs strong, that people like us, 20, 30 years later,

are going to be getting emotional and teary-eyed over them. Because Mega Man is fucking dead. And because the soul still burns. Yeah. Right? That's a Namco thing? No, but the point remains, because when we were talking about this before,

is that Capcom, no matter what, no matter how down things are getting over there, they're holding onto shit that we love forever. They have them. They're kind of in not the Disney, but the Capcom vault, and they're not getting out. Yeah. What would you do, man?

I'll take a little, if I can, bend the rules a little bit. I'd make one change. One, maybe I'm not sure how big it's considered, but I can make one change, is either go back in time, or rehire him. Just get Inafune back.

Keep him happy. When did you say the lowest Capcom had had made? It was in 2005. 2005. And that was when we were transitioning into another console generation. Inafune puts out a Lost Planet and Dead Rising rolling.

And if I recall, I can't remember which one it was. They killed it. One or both of those games fucking killed it. Lost Planet did pretty well, and Dead Rising blew their sales expectations away. I remember at 2005, 2006, or whatever, that was the first like, yo, next gen finally.

Dead Rising was the game. The people in Inafune is like, he's the guy that put in motion the we can trust the foreigners. It's okay, guys. We need their help. And then they kind of got nervous. Yeah, and then we got some bad games out of that.

But you can also consider, not so much in Japan, because Japan doesn't really, I don't know what the view of there, but if we had avoided the whole Mega Man thing, if we had avoided that more, that would have at least helped from a PR perspective. Capcom in the West considerably, I think.

Absolutely. At least like, you know, we're just gendered by what we see on the internet, but like, everyone hates Capcom, and everyone is so fucking hyped for Mighty No. 9. And all the street fighter and fighting game stuff, where Mega Man keeps getting the short end of the stick. But I do have to say, Matt,

I do have to say, Matt, that like that is, that's a change that would make us feel better, but would it steer them back on track for profitable turnover? Because that's a minor change. I actually have a point, like that goes with the Inafune, keeping Inafune. If you look at just what Inafune has been doing,

since like, Comcept went up, and he built up from nothing, like soul sacrifice, like when you let this guy make something original, Sony went to this guy and said, please help us kill Monster Hunter, and he did a damn good first try. Dude, like, 300K on an original IP,

that's on the feed. Which says to me, that if like, they just let new people at Capcom do weird shit with Monster Hunter, that thing would just eat all of its clones. And the reason why I bring up that thing is that, like, we all have various opinions on deep down. When I look at that,

I see that failing spectacularly, and I just have a feeling or whatever, just how the market's gonna go, it's gonna fail spectacularly, and it's probably super uber-expensive to make. It reminds me of Dragon's Dogma. It reminds me of Dragon's Dogma. And like I said, how dead-rising or whatever

they cost at that time, maybe Inafune is really good at saying, whoa, whoa, whoa, maybe we shouldn't spend this amount of money, maybe we shouldn't have 700 people working on RE6 and it'd be shit. I see that as a guy that knows how to steer it, and I think like if I was,

whoever is in charge of Inafune, and I says, Inafune, you got even more control, let's see what you can do, at least for a little while. He sits in the back sketching Mega Man for the whole meeting, and then occasionally just looks up and goes, the fuck.

They just let it rock. Yeah, no, no. You know what, when Matt talks about some of that stuff, it makes me think that I think the core, like, split of where it just all started to fall apart with Capcom was after Dead Rising, where all those people start to leave,

but before that, right before that in the Clover era, is when they stopped having their best people make stuff that appealed to a mass audience. Like, we all love Okami. We all love God Hand, right? But they took, they took

Makami and Kimia and those guys that made their biggest, most unbelievably successful blockbusters, and said, make whatever weird indie shit you want. Like, had Makami stayed on Resident Evil, and Evil, and Evil Within was just Resident Evil 6.

Shit. With all the support that Capcom could bring, they wouldn't be in fucking trouble. Resident Evil's the most profitable shit ever for them. And you could also just take that and think the entire rise to fucking epic fame

that is Platinum Games could have just been New Capcom. Yeah. The New Capcom. Or Clover. Clover. Right. I hate Capcom. Well, I don't

because I love fighting games and they still represent the shining beacon of the best fighting games out there. They've killed more things that I love than they continue to make. Equivalent exchange. It's not equivalent. I just like think that

Capcom is just this gross mom that's just flopping on the giant sigil. You're like, what have we done? No. I think Deep Down looks really cool though. And I think it's not as expensive as we think it is to make because yes, they're making the engine

at the same time and that's like an investment in the future. It's Lost Planet 1. But also all the dungeons and shit is procedurally generated. Yeah, but that's what I mean. It's like Lost Planet 1, they got away with that shit because it's a fucking ice planet. Oh yeah, exactly. Get away with it like that. I think they've got a promising future

but at the same time, I think they could just as easily fucking blow it all away. It'll probably make money but fail to meet projections. They're all there. It'll fail to meet projections but it'll make money. They're at the point with what, two bad years and they're done. Wow, Monster Hunter 4G.

No, there's some giants that will never completely fall down but they'll take a knee. In other news of awesome shit have you guys checked out the full actual trailer for Child of Life? Yes. Oh my god! That shit is so beautiful.

Ubisoft more Japanese than the Japanese. Right? George Tammy Tammy is just like, fuck! Who needs Square Enix anymore? Really? Mmm. William Lino. Because we like their games.

Yeah. I think that. I think that honestly the biggest surprise for me and the thing that I didn't actually pay attention or know going in was it's a side scroller until you get into a battle. It's super cool.

I had no idea the overworld is beautiful 2D thing. It kind of reminds me of a little bit. Just like Paper Mario. It turns into a thing. I was super like, alright let's see what the... Whoa!

I want to be able to click the YouTube link on that and get that in higher than 1080p and get it in Oculus right now. Well, and the other one that they announced on the same day looks really awesome too. Fucking, I was hoping one of you guys would remember. Oh right, a Valiant Hearts. Valiant Hearts, where you play as a rescue dog

in the World War I trenches. I didn't see that trailer. It's on the UBR engine. It's I think Montreal as well. There's not much like... There's just as much content as Child of Light as far as like what we've seen. And like both these games look great. I preferential the Child of Light, but they both look great.

It's not often that like we start getting excited about an engine as opposed to a franchise. The UBR engine is just so good. Right now it's doing great. And they said they might want to license it out too. Because you got your Aki engine, you've got your NT framework, you're good classic engines.

The last time I got like this when it became through Kickstarter, that Unity is going to power all of your dreams from your old childhood. Unity is going to power all that shit and you're just going and it'll come to everything? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

And now we're just like looking at this and going like what's this game? I don't know, whatever name, blah. It's on the UBR engine. Because if someone licensed that engine for their game they have to have an idea. Right, absolutely. Like oh it's just the first person character.

No wait, no, first person shooter. You want to see a first person shooter on the UBR? Oh wait, I do. It would be called 14. I was going to sell it. We saw the 13 actual comic book at Comic Con. We're like Nido.

Bondesine. And you'd have to know that they'd be like so let's see your concept here. Concept approval to license out our engine. Are you contributing to the... But you know what, it's that good an engine right? Yes.

So no, that looks pretty sick if you guys haven't seen it. Go look at the footage guys. Soon you'll be able to share and borrow Steam games. Which is nuts. It's so nuts that I thought it was bullshit when I heard about it.

Because this is the this is the exact... So I'll just fucking break it down. This is bullshit Pat said. As I spat my steam out onto the floor. It basically is say woolly you... I said you are my close friend on Steam.

If I'm not online there's a little ticker underneath your game list on Steam that says Pat's games. And you can download, install, and play any of those for as long as you fucking want until I log in. Then it'll give you like 10 minutes

to buy it or just log off or save the game. This is the exact system that Microsoft said they were going to do with the family sharing plan. And then said no fuck that when all their DRM plans were signed. There's no time.

And Steam is kind of like the perfect example of why people hated that Xbox One DRM plan in the first place because Steam has a fucking offline mode. You can go to your house, log into my Steam account,

go offline and you fucking leave. And that was an exploit for the longest time. And you could just play all my shit you had downloaded. And now they're just saying well people are going to do that. So we might as well give them a little ad afterwards that says do you want to buy this game?

And it's five bucks. Or Pat's logging in now. You want to continue? You want to finish the software? Just click this button. It's going to be like 30 dollars. 80 cents. You went way lower than I did.

And the eligibility of the games is everything that's not free to play with microtransactions or has games from Windows Live where you play. And you know what? And it makes perfect sense in terms of like everyone's been discussing all this stuff because of the next gen consoles. And then you look at the fact that

humble bundles have been giving away games just throwing them at you. It's like why wouldn't they implement something like this? And Steam gets to like Steam. And then PS, PlayStation and all those Sony guys have been out there saying we want to make PSN like Steam.

We want to have fucking Steam sales. That's what PS Plus is starting on, right? And then Steam comes out and goes yeah but what about this shit? You just play everyone's games. Free. You know that's certainly the advantage they have

is like given that they don't have to sell hardware to do stuff. Even though they will be selling hardware or something. You know where the only thing consoles have is exclusives. At board they have exclusives but Steam certainly has that. And guaranteed performance and less budget. But like Steam certainly has that

upper hand. Like for example I've been trying to play KOF 13 on the PC for weeks now. How's that going? How's that working out? Actually you want to tell that full story, Matt? Well no. So I just So KOF 13 beta improved net code. Alright let's go.

I bought the game. Let's go. I installed it. Doesn't work. Fuck. Patch every single day of the beta. Doesn't fucking work. Game comes out. Big patch comes out. Doesn't fucking work. The game is broken. I am so mad.

And then I uninstalled it off my 3TB hard drive and put it on my SSD. Now it works fine. That's bullshit. I paid $30. It doesn't like my hard drive. That's bullshit. That is almost enough to drive me all the way back to consoles.

Man. Because I know shit will fucking work. Yeah. Put it in. I had a great time playing my copy of my 360. It works so perfectly. I mean, no the thing is I think for SNK it's a special case. They don't know what computers are. They're so baby.

They're so learning. They're cute. They live in a cave and they do all their programming on the wall. They do magic but they do them on cables. The other thing that we know was like hey man I've been enjoying my online experience with KOF.

In particular, just the ability to actually find matches quickly is a huge payoff. I'll just take this opportunity to just continue on the topic because it was going to be discussed. Before I do that. I was going to say, if you told me five years ago that PC

was always really open and whatever and you can do a lot of stuff that you can do. But if you're going to say that Nintendo would be a runner up with all the indie shit and Microsoft would be like last in the world no one, no one ever can fuck with us.

We're all in a little insular place. You're 100% right. The idea that Sony would have a more open platform than Microsoft or Nintendo is bizarre overall. It's like the fucking company that installed root kits off of CDs. Like all

Ken Kuduragi and Phil Harrison's crazy bullshit. But the interesting thing though about SNK in particular as we were just saying is the headline, SNK Playmore says experience working with Valve is incredibly positive and they're heavily considering Steam releases for future

projects. I have one question SNK. What future projects? Yes, please show us something. Tell us, let us know. Metal Slug is coming. Is it? Metal Slug XX is coming, Steve. Metal Slug is coming. Oh wait, X-X. Cool, that's a good guess. Well, one Metal Slug

One Metal Slug XX Twinkle Star Sprites. Doki Doki Magician Pan Online. When it makes more fucking money than it cost to port when they start working on 14, they'll think of a PC release.

Doki Doki Magician Pan Online is like curiosity. You have a girl and a ton of dudes are lighting it and just poking all over. I didn't say anything. I didn't say anything. It's this fucker. You're the problem maker here. Yeah, yeah.

What's in the center of the witch? Let's keep going. Give me a new topic. It's Ash Crimson. He's just in there. God. While we're just telling the story, who wasn't there saying how, oh it was like, someone was telling Woolly, it's like, Woolly, no one wants to play

KOF 13 with you because you're bullshit Ash. No one's having fun. Stop it. That was me. No. That was a different person because we used to play sessions with a group of people and like after a while, it was just casual like

break time things. I've been saying that for like two years now. No, you have, but this was a We might have discussed it elsewhere. I don't remember. Yeah, you mentioned the king said it. Yeah, exactly. King was like, he's like, guys, look, I just, Woolly, I need to tell you, like, we're all just on break here having fun. No one wants to deal with your bullshit Ash Crimson.

Like, you're ruining the game. You're winning all the time and it's not fun because you're just blaming it out. And it's like, but I'm trying to play to win the wait scale. It's like, no, you don't understand, they don't want to play with us anymore. And this guy knows, this guy knows fighting games. Yeah, you know, it's the equivalent of

They took, they took, take your ball and go home is what happened. It's the equivalent of going to the arcade and looking up at the arcade and it's a guile, guile match and you go, fuck this. Right. I'm not watching this. It's not, it's not take your ball and go home, it's take your big, stupid green fireball and shove it up your own ass. But no one wants to play with you. Just take

the clock. Just take the clock. Ash has been erased from King of Fighters community. Yeah. He has been erased so hard that in KOF 14 he will not only not be in it, he will have never existed in the first place. Was that confirmed?

That's the ending of KOF 13. There's going to be a guile. Ash is removed from history. That's why Eorea's DLC has his flames back. I thought you were going to say, not only will he not be in the game, there'll be a stage of the graveyard that has a big headstone.

Either way, his move set will return. It'll live on. The funny part about that, this whole thing to me, is the fact that some of the hypers matches at the fucking EVO finals were Ash versus like Duelon and shit. It was really cool. I hate that match. I hate that match so much. It was really cool.

If I could delete that match off the internet, I would. The game just crashes whenever you try. Moving on. If you got PS Plus, as we're talking about crazy free games and stuff, you know what's a great game if you haven't played it?

EECO. It's coming out. EECO's good. That version of EECO's really, really good. It's the HD version. It's the HD version. Okay. It's not the PS2 one. It's not the fucked up Shadow of the Colossus port. EECO is the really good one. I would highly recommend it to anyone.

Have we all done EECO? No, no. I haven't finished it. I'm playing it right now, actually. A whole bunch of games. I know what happens. I'm playing it on my 3D TV, actually. And the 3D?

No, no, no. It's really good. Oh, man. I can't wait to get to Shadow of the Colossus on this shit. So it's not like flat layers? No, it's depth. Oh, wow. Because they went in and retooled the whole thing. Man, it looks really good. I've been playing some 3D games lately.

Puppeteer looks amazing in 3D. Project Diva. But EECO looks really good in 3D. It's almost like you can reach out and touch it. You fucking freak. I just want to touch it. When you get to the 5th Colossus,

I want to come to your place. I have two random 360 games that also say they run in 3D. One's like a car combat game that has the same graphics as Mad World. Try thinking about Mad World in 3D. Sell damage? Not sell damage.

It's got a bullshit name. Someone knows. Hey, just so we're all equally represented, I want to point out that I fucking hate 3D and all of its garbage warms. It's the worst thing to have in the movies and video games in forever. It's happened

so long ago and the avatar just brought it back. Yeah. Fuck that shit. It's good when the avatar is amazing. It's really well an avatar because they didn't stick shit out at you. They sunk back into the world. There's literally three movies ever released that are three movies other than avatar

that ever was like, let's do it like avatar. How do I shrug the kids 3D? No. One sadly was Resident Evil Afterlife. Oh no. Because I saw that in 3D with a friend and we didn't have to pay for the tickets. It was free but it was actually like,

yeah, that's 3D that works and the other two I never saw but there's two others that I ever saw written in a press release the same cameras as avatar. I just hate when it means let's throw that word onto the title of the movie now.

Yeah, that's the worst. We saw that. We saw the poster for Dread at Comic-Con and I was like, oh shit, it's Dread 3D and the big fucking 3D just bring the whole poster down. In terms of ruining it.

Imagine if you could find a raid redemption movie but they put 3D. I wish that movie had 3D. For movies, most of them just get post-converted into garbage. So that's what I'm talking about in terms of movies but in games unless it's old shit like what Liam's

talking about right now they have to do bullshit to the frame rate they gotta think of weird design shit it's like crap in almost everything. We render every scene an eyes distance away from the camera's original position. And think about like the 3DS

you remember the Super Street Fighter Super Street Fighter 4 on the 3DS you turn the 3D on the fucking frame rate cuts in half That was on launch, they fixed that. No, they just stopped letting games run in higher frame rates when you turned the 3D on. I know several games

that run in 60 frames per second on the 3DS with a 3D on. Street Fighter 4, it's a toggle you can go 60, no 3D, 30 3D, but like Dead or Alive Dimensions that's 60, 3D, 60, 2D It just depends on the game. Does that mean it's going at 120 otherwise?

No, it's going at 60. Remember 3D Jet Rocket? The platform is coming out, that's running in 60 frames per second. Let me just say this, anything you could have put into making 3D you could have put into anti-aliasing or anisotropic filtering

or anything that made the game a little nicer. Well, Pat, the Nintendo has a console that's just made for you. It's called the 2DS. Good luck getting your 1 frame links on 30 frames per second, guys. I can't do 1 frame links. You can!

Trade harder, fuckers! I thought you played Hakon. I play Hakon like I play Zangy. Just oilier. And sometimes you know this shit just rolls itself speaking of the 3DS and Nintendo in general

they've announced that guys, we know that you want us to unify your Wii U and 3DS and we're looking into it. We're considering it, but we're really not. How about you fucking do it, you fucking asshole? Yeah, I agree. Dan Alderman is probably working every day of his life

to get that every second of his life. Dan Alderman is cool. But the thing is, I feel like the higher priority to get your shit off the console first then you can unify with your other Nintendo games. Yeah, just let us transfer shit and save our stuff. How is the concept of a profile

still not existent if there's a completely unused memory space on the Wii milk? Well, it's tiny, you can't. The 12 year old kid that plays Wind Waker, he's not going to bring Wind Waker to his friend's house and the 10 year old kid that plays Smash

he's only going to play with his brothers or and or sisters. He's not going to go to his friend's house to play, oh wait, they totally fucking do that all the time! How did they not fucking figure this out? How was it with the Wii that you had to bring somebody's fucking Wii to somebody's house

to get the character on locks and smacks? And it's not even going to be the same thing this time! And it's not even like you have to go wait until like, what if your console dies? It's more like, what if I want to sell it to somebody? What if I want to go anywhere? What if it gets stolen?

Yeah, that makes no sense. No, I agree, I personally mind all that much, but I will never defend it. Like, it's not great, it's bad. And they had time, because they were they were like early out the gates in this quote unquote generation, even though they're in between.

Nintendo is like... They had so much time to set this up. Nintendo fucked up as hard as you could. So here's the deal. Here's the deal. Did you ever know anyone that had Hack to Wii? Yeah, yeah. I had one. Played Xenoblade. How'd you hack it?

Through save file exploits. Using USB keys. Therefore, nobody gets to touch your save files anymore. You can't move them, you can't give them your friends, fuck you. They're locked. It's the same thing that Sony did with the Vita, but Sony has

the account system and the content manager that you can just move shit all over the place. So it doesn't matter. Goddamn Twilight Princess, man. Not even that. There's another one, the message bomb. Remember that? That thing was awesome. But there's tons like Lego Indiana Jones has one.

Oh, really? That's how I did it. But Twilight Princess was the best because it was the most popular widely available launch title Wii game. You should have to make sure not to delete your save file. So I was saying just because that was a GameCube game that's why it had that. Yeah, probably.

I could totally do that. If it was built ground up for the Wii. For me, I'll never forget Liberty City stories on the PSP. Why would you never forget that? Because that was the one that made it all possible. The Pandora battery and all that crazy emulation stuff that happened afterwards

was because of an exploit. So, Vita? No removable battery. No HDMI out. No HDMI out. But now we know that's because it's for the Vita TV. And no fucking with your save files. But I can upload them to PS Plus. So, it's fine.

And I mean, you can still copy them with the content manager. Right. Which is an all right solution. See, Sony took the same steps but because they have a fucking account system it's fine. Because they have a brain. Right? Nintendo you're just fucking locked. You're fucked.

I bet you if they're ever going to make another console redesigned for the Wii or maybe even another 3DS one, that's when they'll have that change. The profile time thing. Yeah, it's a relaunch. It's just there's so many, it's really important to have copy protection and security to make

sure your shit doesn't get Dreamcast or PSP. You want that. That's your worst nightmare. But if you're doing this to the point of upsetting and annoying your fan base for basic functions that already exist for five to six years on other consoles, you're fucking doing it wrong.

If they somehow analog sticks and allowed you to do N64 piracy and then when they went to the GameCube they're like, well, you can't have analog sticks. No more analog sticks. That is worse than a small cartoony but that's what they're doing to themselves.

So you get what? The D-pad the D-pad and the C-pad on the GameCube? Yeah, yeah. That's fucking bullshit. Another thing on Nintendo and their accounts, I can't believe how fragmented they are how the Nintendo network ID is separate from your club Nintendo is not even really linked to your

Nintendo network premium. None of them. It's so bullshit how it's barely animated by different parts. And you know what? That's why it's taking them so long to do an account system. Because there's no record of anybody anywhere except for the club Nintendo stuff. It'd be a mess

but the only place you just have to start with that is a website that just puts them all together. You mean like club Nintendo? And then you update the firmware on everything. I think club Nintendo should be the fake old thing. Absolutely. And then you go from there. Every single time they ask me a question

on those club Nintendo surveys. Every single bracket I go other and I say put it in an account system. Account system. And I suggest anyone who actually does those things for the points to also write in every single slot you can

make an account system. Liam, you were telling me earlier about today about Z-Boyd games and their article on the wonderful 101. Yeah, it's fantastic. Z-Boyd? So you guys know Z-Boyd. They make Cuculus games. Yeah, I know that.

And the New York games. Yeah, exactly. And four. So these guys, they wrote a great article of few, I want to say last week about how, now I'm trying to remember this so it's paraphrasing, how wonderful 101 is not compatible with modern reviewers and vice versa. Interesting. And their reasoning for it, it's a very

good article actually and it's not critical in a bad way. It's super reasonable. It's like this is why it happens. The reasoning is that this is a game and like platinum games and action games in general they take time, they take practice. And so on the one hand reviewers don't have time to do that and on the other hand

reviewers may not feel it fair to give it extra treatment in that sense. Right. So in both ways it's kind of incompatible because at the end of the day one of the reviewers is going to say I don't have time for this which is fair or I can't give it preferential treatment which is also fair. It's the kind of thing where you look

at really good examples of GTA 5. Right. Getting rare reviews. And the reason that is is because when you play GTA 5 to beat GTA 5 and get to the final mission, you have to play a shit load of GTA 5 to beat

Bayonetta. 20 hours talks. 20 hours and that's the end of normal. That's not Bayonetta. Yeah. Absolutely. That's not Bayonetta at all. The one caveat there is what I was going to say is you have to be as impressive as Bayonetta the whole way through to get that amazing what 90

metascore that it's got which is incredible. And it's really just restating something that we've been yelling for years from the mountain top. We've been yelling and the review system is broken. We've been yelling about this for like a decade. It's nuts. It all feeds into the why does

Heavenly Sword have the same almost close average as Double May Cry 3. The game that is the father of what they're trying to do. My favorite example is DMC beating out all the other Devil May Cry even though it's like total rancid garbage compared to that. Except for 2.

We can admit DMC's it's fun. It's not. It's not Devil May Cry though. It's fine. But like it's so much easier to get into that the reviewers don't have to give it all that time and dedication. They're doing awesome things from the second hour. My favorite example is God Hands review on IG.

Absolutely. We don't understand what is happening. Why is it all this character action? It's not because it's character action. It's character action is hard. Fighting games a little bit. Fighting games too. Fighting games too. It's character action. Another one. It's character action. It's fighting games.

It's shmups. It's really weird niche simulation games like football manager or the yes. Football manager. Where the goal is not play get to end cut scene. It's all games that require an investment. And when you get the fucking game and the mail

on Friday and the reviews gotta be up on Tuesday and it's a skill barrier. And it's supposed to be 30 hours long and there's a severe skill barrier. There's no chance. You don't have a fucking chance of reviewing that well. I mean so I think like there's a lot of things you can do to try and fix the review systems.

I don't know if this article proposes any. I mean we've discussed a couple and it's just like I think in general if we're talking about things like this or character action and shmups and fighters all have different ideal goals of like this is the maximum amount of fun you're supposed to achieve from this team.

I don't want to say ship with your statement or your thesis statement but you have to somehow indicate that look if you're reviewing Street Fighter 4 and you didn't play the multiplayer mode shut the fuck up. Yeah you didn't do it because that happened. I remember back in the day on IGN like in the early

aughts it would be like there's two or three guys I like these games. I like these games. I like these games. That guy does that review GameSpot did that. And they don't do that anymore or at least it doesn't seem like it. Jim Sterling plays one of the fuck he wants

because he's the review editor so he'll play shit that he knows he'll hate and puts out a bad review for it. Yeah Nintendo Power in the GameCube era had five reviewers on every game and those were the best reviews because you get such a broad level of opinion.

It was really weird how Nintendo Power just as in the Twilight years got the most legit reviews ever where they were giving Nintendo games bad scores. Because it's like those games are bullshit. I'm calling out on that. Right after N64 and before future publishing in the Wii Nintendo Power was super golden

right there. Okay so there's a huge problem with that. I want Haunts to review fighting games. This is the perfect example of the problem. I want Haunts guy who is Haunts. Haunts is a long standing member of the FGC cool guy, works for Capcom now

runsiplaywinter.com and he knows fighting games. He put out one up Street Fighter 4 review. It was the only fucking review. No the games are at R1. Jared Ray's review. Again same thing. Jared Ray fighting game guy. He knows what

he's talking about. Those reviews do not speak to the average person who has the same thought process as the reviewer. That's the problem. If I reviewed Banetta I would have given it a fucking 10 out of 10 and lavish

praise on it for a million days as long as I could say it right? I would have finished the review with a picture of you marrying the game box. My taste is so specific to this character action genre that people who are average

and may not even know what character action means. My review doesn't actually mean a whole lot to them because there's no common ground rights. And that's the problem. You want to put out a site. You want to review for the

broadest amount of people possible. You want to have the most common or average experience with the game possible. Sad word but that's what you have to do. And it makes us really upset when the average person just would not appreciate things that

we like. When then that turns into Kotaku should you buy this game? No. You made fun of that? Actually Kotaku's are great because I think they've only given like they've done like 100 games like this

and they've only given like 20 games a no and they're bad games. No I like when they started doing here's pluses here's minuses. That was the best those things I think those are far things I like things I didn't like but fuck that yes no bullshit man. It's still better than a number.

It is better than a number. It's still better than a number. For a 10 scale where you only use like 40% of the scale. I like a 4 scale. I like the 5 scale. I like 4. I'm a big fan of 5 stars. You was a terrible out of 100. Fuck that.

Yeah. 93. And the trick is that most 10 point review scales are actually 100 point reviews. And they just convert it. And the problem I said unfortunately since we know now for a fact that developers are actively

giving metacritic like goals for their project. They're straight up like maybe this guy won't enjoy the super hard level that's super well crafted. Exactly. Maybe we should make it a little easier. So if you come out with a 4 scale right and that's what your legit gaming review site is using. Guess what

metacritic just takes that and goes 25 points per star. That too. Fuck you metacritic for doing that. It's your whole system just breaks. It reminds me when Jeff Bruceman from Giant Bomb has talked how Giant Bomb's like scoring system fucking doesn't play nice with metacritic at

all. There's just 5 stars. And a 4 star becomes 80%. That's not really what 4 star means. I agree. I think Gamedevilla should implement a new system that when you start a game up there's two difficulty settings. It says game journalists and says everyone else.

See here's the thing you gotta remember. Everybody likes to make like I love to make fun of the fact that a lot of game journals are really bad at games. A lot of people are fucking bad at games. They are. Like really really fucking bad at games. Considering how many more games are coming out these days than back

in the 8 bit era. People don't have as much time to get good at them and to like hone that skill. But yeah. It really fucking sucks that that then turns into You need to spend 70 hours finding which the best route to go through and clash a demon head. Yeah. Cause you had that time.

Yeah. There's a fucked up system. There's no solution. Just give up. No. And I mean everyone just give up. But like also like when you like shit tell your friends and use the internet. But also like when a review does come out for a super core game and it's not great. It's not necessarily

cause the reviewer thought it was terrible. It's cause they just are not compatible. And I should mention that the flip side to this is the fucking insanity that comes out every time an uncharted 3 happens. And you have or you know what the most

famous ever is gotta be like the fucking Shenmue score from GameSpot where Shenmue got a 6.8 and all the Sega fans went totally insane. Did you hear what GTA 5 got from the escapist? It's the most shut the fuck up in his opinion.

Sorry. I don't. What was that? Escapist gave GTA 5 a 7 and like the comments are just exploding with like don't read this. He's just a troll getting clicks. It's like fuck. What game are you giving Uncharted 3 an 8? An 8. Enjoy your 8.8.

7 I can see people getting upset over 8. Like come on. No it's a fucking review. It doesn't matter. That's what I mean. I can see people getting upset. You've been a next stand. The next 8 sketchy vans are parking outside the Eurogamer offices.

People have different opinions. Fuck man. I hate tons of shit you guys like. We all hate the shit Liam likes. I hate the vans you like. Stop hating things. We had a lot of similar stuff on our top 10 list. It's fine. We overlap a lot.

We all hate collectively along with JJ Abrams. The Star Trek game. I forgot that was awesome. It damaged the movie. That's the best. Guys you have to go see this quote. They interviewed JJ Abrams

to talk about the future of the Star Trek brand and its possibility of where it can go with video games. Apparently they're working with Valve on some interesting things. We don't know what that is. And then he just straight up goes into like they ask him the question

like how do you feel about the game that just came out or something along those lines. And he's like as we all know it was a great disappointment and I think ultimately we were involved at the start and then we sort of saw that it was not going to deliver on what it promised. That was interesting.

We started working on this game with the game developer then we noticed the buckets of shit and then we just got the fuck out. We got out of dodge. You know what I totally agree with him. Not on a specific scale but on a macro scale. There's always been like

think of Arkham Asylum. Why does everyone care so much about Arkham Asylum? Because every Batman game ever has been a fucking pile of shit. Except for the next one. Yeah. When you heard about Arkham Asylum you kind of

ignored it just a little bit more than you would have because all Batman games are complete fucking garbage except for the Genesis one. And just adding them on. Star Trek is so like that. Star Trek games are

terrible. There's like oh they're fuck. Is that weird adventure game on the game gear? I like Star Trek strategic operation simulator. That's a good one. There was ideas there with no execution.

Why is Eve online not Star Trek online? Because it's made by Swedes. But my point is that they should. Boy would that be a deal. Oh no. God is it made by Norwegian like if they just got in on something like that that was crack already and they branded it

with the shit people love. They tried to do that. I know. Exactly. It fucking didn't work. Star Wars is still trying to do that. It's going to get to a point where the game industry takes so long to make a game and movies take even less time to make that eventually there's not going to be anymore. They just won't be.

They may be downloadables. They'll be mobile games. They'll be mobile games. I mean you might even just see games like Put Your Bay where they're like you know what fuck it. We're going to take our time and make this and it'll come out when it's ready.

Are you going to go into that by the way? Yeah. That's true. Vin Diesel is starting up his Taigon studio to make another Riddick game. Good. Oh wow. Vin Diesel got out of his D&D cave and grabbed bags of money and a car and jumped out of the car

as it exploded. I need you. The only way I care is if Star Breeze is on board to make it. Not maybe Star Breeze because I forget what game they made but they make any game not too long ago is kind of garbage. Did he did? Vin also just take up giant pay cut to do Riddick.

Yes he did. Yeah. Right? Because he loves it. Like just taking all that fast food. All that fast food. Vin Diesel being a cool guy. All that fast everything money. Fast everything money. He has money for days I'm sure. Like you watch Little Bow Wow and fucking Tokyo Drift

or whatever. That triple X money. Oh shut the fuck up. Oh my god. Why not? Jesus. And one other thing that I thought was really really cool there's some Kickstarter projects that have been popping up as there is always

I can think of one that bears mentioning. There's always an overflow of shit. Hyper Light Drifter That's the one I was thinking of. How did he not say? Holy shit that trailer looks good. Awesome stuff. And it has

Super Brother style graphics. It looks like between Super Brothers Shinobi and like I don't know. And every couple looking at the trailer just every couple of seconds

there seemed to be some new concept introduced that was like okay now there's mechs now and now he's jumping into this big thing and there's these monsters that look like colossi in the sky. It looks really sad. And it's a Kickstarter that asks for very little comparatively. Crushed it.

I remember his first update he was just like I went to sleep and I woke up and we're already gone there. I saw his asking for his Kickstarter was 27k and then the first time I ever saw it was 160 something. It went to like 48 in like a day and a half

or something. It really shows that you don't have to be a gigantic person. You have to have a really good video. You have to have some gameplay footage. And a really really reasonable budget it seems like you will make your goal.

Now you compare that shit to the mutin league football the next thing I was going to talk about went up. That was literally the next target. They're asking for so much money. They're asking for 750 thousand.

750k for a mutin league football game. I feel like their priorities are really weird too. Did you look at the stretch goals? I didn't even. I saw 750 and I was like I looked. I'm just like okay let's see how soon are their own consoles on the get go. You're right. I did see some weird shit. Okay you would assume for 750 their own consoles

at the get go. At 2 million they go Xbox one at 3 million PS4. No the weirdest one is they hit a million and they go PC. Yeah. What was it supposed to be out for? I don't fucking know. You make it for ourselves.

Wait sorry. A million for PC? A million for PC. So what's the target plot? It must be 3,360. It makes no fucking sense man. And I look at it and it's just not that appealing and it's like. Look if we can't have blackjack and hookers

while we're developing this game then we just can't make it guys. The game will be bad. And the bigger problem, bigger than all of that is that it's mutin league football and not mutin league hockey. You know, it should have both. It should be

a mini-game compilation. It should be mutin league olympics. That would be neat. That would really set it apart from everything. Mutin league wrestling. What I just didn't know was... How is this not owned by EA? It probably is and probably a large part of that cost is buying

license. And you know what? We're probably totally wrong and it probably says so in the Kickstarter. But you know what? They should have... If that is the case and say I'm going to pick a number out of nowhere, 200k to get to the mutin league license. Call it monster football.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And say inspired by mutin league. There was that Kickstarter that completed, funded. It was that road rash one called road redemption. It looks exactly like road rash. Just go for that. It's road rash but it's called road redemption.

Just put it in front of your lawyer and have him nudge it until it's okay. So Matt, can we confirm our project Lord of the Weapons? Lord of the Weapons, maybe? Coming in 2020. Do we have shantay on there? I didn't. Because shantay just finished

with... I'm not finished but just got 300,000k out of their 400,000k. 300,000k? Yeah. 75%. Good for shantay. They have like 22 days left or something? 300,000k. Okay.

300,000k. Not 300,000k. No, those are double dollars. Yes. That's the stampede. But yeah, they're really close and I was kind of like shantay's neat or whatever

but the more I saw like they have skull girls animators working on it. They're having these interesting goals. I got a lot to say about skull girls but I'm not going to talk any shit about those like animators. So yeah,

anyone that's interested in shantay, hope out. But also really go check out Hyper Light Drifter because fuck. That's coming to PC and probably PS4 Vita. It's going to make it.

At this rate it's coming to everything. It's coming to your fucking eyeballs. Oh, was there more platforms listed? Google Glass. I don't know. It'll be on something you want. Yeah, exactly. It looks really good. Give it a look.

Stretch goals around the world. Interestingly enough something that should definitely get you excited at the very least I'm getting excited. You're talking to good ol' Ono and they're like what kind of projects are you working on

and what's going on? You know the usual thing and he's like, oh I know everyone's surprised that I'm working on games. Your Ono voice. That's all you got. It was Tuesday. That's all you got. We should stop

doing this right now. Tell me more about it. Anyway. Because that's how he sounds. It was really funny. He put out a video with him sounding like that. He was really cool. He was dressed as Bison. Tell me to be excited.

You're pretty surprised that I'm working on games like Deep Down. That is a bit weird. No one expected that. What can we expect from you next year? Maybe Street Fighter 5? Maybe not. But you might see Rival Schools 3 though.

Get the fuck out. He just said it. In the words of another Capcom employee, what a toolbag. What a fucking lying piece of shit. This wasn't even on Twitter. That is straight up.

I couldn't bring dark stalkers back. Let me see if Rival Schools has more pull. There is no fucking way. Anything anywhere in Capcom exists on a single sheet of paper that says

Rival Schools 3. He just wants people to get in Capcom's face. Exactly. He realized that fuck the Capcom experiment. The thing where you put out a little downloadable early version of it or whatever, see how it does and go this means the IP is worth this much.

Just get everyone screaming. Yelling on the phone. When I think about it I actually prefer Rival Schools 3. Fuck what is way more. Just because Rival Schools is always 3D so you can't have

stupid 2D die-hards there's no way you can do that stuff. Let's not even touch how much ridiculously better it would sell than dark stalkers. In Japan? You like the anime character? Gameplay aside, the design and the appeal is so strong for that series.

Everyone fucking loves and remembers all the dumb sports archetypes. What does this face, the swimming character? Nagare. So good. All the dudes that came up in the later ones but Shoma forever. Shoma. Batsun. Yoma. Tiffany and Roy. Daigo.

Roy for Sherman. Who's the guy? Bowman. Who's the guy with the stick? Hayato. Hayato. Hayate. Hayate. Hayate. The guy in the red track suit that slams his stick. He's the gym teacher. He knocks your back

and you get guts up. Hey Capcom, take your Elena, Ibuki, Makoto and Sakura models from SF4. Use them again, just go for it. They're already in the same universe. They're already in the same universe. So just reuse them. Sakura's there, put them all in.

I don't know if there's a mangaka that has to get paid off and or killed. There always seems to be one. Right? Rival schools coming soon. Rival schools 3 that is, with Karen. That's the main character. Karen front center on the box.

Ryu on Ultra Street Fighter 4. New student, Ryu joins the class. That reminds me, I got to give props to whoever on our Facebook channel did a picture that says Lucas Kane QTEs his way into your heart for smash. That was really good.

Shout out to that guy, he was really well made. That's what Ono's putting out there. But what's actually coming out is Capcom fighting evolution on PSA. Everybody lose your mind. It's losing on. You just want to put out a

warning for this one, for anyone who's thinking of buying it today? Guys, five hours from now. I'm hoping you don't know what it is. But in the case you do. Why don't you start with the premise and how cool the premise is. So this was originally supposed to be

when they were in the down time years. It was Capcom fighting All Stars. Yes, Capcom fighting All Stars was the original game. It was 3D. What's the story? It takes place in Metro City and there's a time bomb.

And it's going to explode in an hour. In 24 hours. And all these fighters have to solve cause the bomb. By fighting each other. And finally the plot is who set us up the bomb? Who set us up the bomb?

And for some reason Alex is in town and Striders there. And Charlie poisons. It's just Capcom everything. And then... It's the first appearance of Ingrid. Yes. Lely schoolgirl, bullshit character.

As well as two other cool guys, D.D. and Rook who is basically Dante and Angel. And then it went on tests in arcades. What did people think? People thought it played like ass. It was never really anything at all.

It was a rotting, jawless corpse. That never truly lived. And how did people feel when it actually came out? Well it didn't. It had fatalities in it. And everyone went guys, Capcom. But the point was they brought it back in

and then they re-announced it and unveiled it as a 2D fighter No, I mean Capcom fighting all stars. Capcom fighting Jam. Capcom fighting Jam. They pulled 4 characters from 5 franchises Darkstalker, Street Fighter Red Earth

Street Fighter Alpha and Third Strike. Oh Street Fighter 3. And they put them all in the same world with the same sprites from those games. But wait best friends don't those games all have different quality sprites all mixed together? Well Keen Listener, yes they do.

And that fucking 20 year old morrigan sprite that looks like ass was still brought out for this fucking shitty game. And she's sitting next to the guys from Red Earth with a few frames of animation. Your last boss is Pyron and the only thing they could do to get this game

some kind of anything for someone that might be interested is they kept Udon to draw the endings. And Udon does a really good draw. They're a great looking ending. It says a lot about Capcom fighting Jam in college and we were skipping classes to play fighting games in classrooms.

We played Capcom Fighting Jam once. We played way worse games way more often because we're like look at this shit game. But Capcom Fighting Jam was worse than that. It was boring. It was never tested. They had no actual

testing done on it. You mean focus testing of course. Location testing. Location testing. Probably shit. And I believe the other part of the story was that the producer on the game just fucking ate shit

and woke up one morning and went FUCKING BULLSHIT and left. He just quit. He's like I'm not doing this anymore. And they picked up what was left collected the heaps and slammed it in front of Ono. They do something.

And Ono was like for him it was Tuesday. He tried. And he got this game out there. And like he came out and said guys I picked up the slack. It wasn't me from the get go please. Well it was one of his first projects too right? You don't say no to that.

Yeah we love you. Man fuck that game holy shit. I remember we picked that up and I went like 15 and 0 with Zangief because Zangief's fucking SMD did stupid damage to hit you halfway across the screen and then one of you guys picked Hanzo and I lost every single match

and then no one could beat Hanzo. That was it. The fucking game was so broken. God. So is that a buy? Is that a don't buy? Kotaku says no. Just as good as Street Fighter 4. Interestingly enough you probably didn't see it

but I know you did. Someone released a hack for dive kick. What? This is called Deadliest Super Dive Kick. The Uprising. It's fucking crazy. It was made by Adele Hyde Stark who's an FGC player.

Is this fucking dive kick rainbow edition? Pretty much. It's fucking crazy and like I'll show you guys the trailer later. We'll link to it below. But you basically get every character juiced up to the fucking nth degree. Baz for starters can rotate full 360 degrees.

Just go in any direction and scream backwards. Like backwards. And you can just do them in the air again. Stream can fly in circles. And goes way faster. You can just do loop-de-loop. Everyone is super fucking amped.

When kick does this party starter you fly off screen. And the camera gets really weird. There's all kinds of crazy hype shit going on. But if dive kick wasn't enough of a party game for you load up as fucking this. Dive kick Uprising. The balance changes.

Going into super dive kick. And maybe we'll get some midair hurricane kicks. Oh man. Once we all get used to super dive kick we can't go back to the slow speed of the original. And then whatever crazy stuff is in there. Just like how in rainbow edition.

Midair hurricane kicks. That's crazy. Then James goes you should put those in the real game. It's a really good idea actually. It's just like fuck. So if anyone has the PC version out there I don't know who does. You should download that.

I actually already should have. I'll see what it looks like. No I know you have it. I'm saying you should download that. No because I want to play it. At some point we just slid into fighting game news and kept going. Fighting games are pretty cool. Everyone slides in fighting games.

I want to say just like finally somebody slapped paypal over the head. Get your shit together. They've done this like five times. It's the worst. So there's the thing. Paypal is overhauling their crowdfunding policies

because they keep locking out crowdfunding games from Kickstarter. They get all their money and support and then they go we don't know what this is. We don't trust your business. We'll go us the game and then we'll give you the money and they go we need the money to make the fucking game. Idiots.

And they lock down half or more. And then they get all their paid policies like really just holding shit. It's utter bullshit. And then everyone that funded it goes nuts and fucking hits their twitter up and messages them and goes paypal what the fuck are you actually doing.

And then they go okay well it makes the exception. It's really weird to see something like paypal that was invented in the information age lose touch with that. Like it's the first thing I can think of. It's like oh the old man running paypal they're like 35. You were the guys on the cusp of digital payments.

You know what we fucked up is if on the paypal website it says if you want us to update our policies please donate. Running a Kickstarter for paypal. They accidentally hold their own funds. No fix it fix it. Sorry we really need to see your service before we can give you money.

And like the finance department's just holding it away. They're sitting across from each other. So hopefully less hiccups in the future. Paypalception. Yeah. And the fucking crazy thing too is that it seems to be like mainly fighting games that eat shit on this map.

Total flukes because the two big ones that are not legit. The two big ones that it happened to were Yatagarasu. And Skullgirls. They held funding from Skullgirls. You would have paid attention to something you threw so much of your own money.

I think you think I would have. It almost didn't happen. I don't know that. I just signed the checks here. Don't worry if I write rams. He writes checks. Yes. I'm looking here.

What you got Willie? Well I'm just wondering let's take it right to the matte watch. What do we got? Today I am stocking Mick Foley. Yeah. Because we saw, we were like where is the panel where Mick Foley is holding his contract?

This is the matte watch so I get to tell the story. Fuck off. And Willie is like I think it might be there. I'm not sure. And then I see Mick Foley right in front of me and I'm like oh hey Mick where is your panel being at? He's like oh room 25B.

Yeah. And we watch him waddle away. And like first of all he's used to like you know rustlers are huge or big but on TV Mick Foley always just seemed like an average guy but no he's a big dude. Like I just never really you know got

whatever and we're watching him waddle and he's got a kind of a limp. Dude the walk is real man. It's real. And we're just watching him like this is so weird and like god he noticed us and everything. Pull up the camera. Actual footage of the best friend

stocking Mick Foley. Yeah like we talked about before like this show is so like you thought I was going to say Mary and say in my bed. No. But you know Mick Foley it was really cool and like just like a big teddy bear dad

right? Yeah man. He really like he warmed up the room really fast and it was really fun because he actually was like he spent a lot of time addressing the woman in the crowd that had no idea what wrestling was.

Or like he's like I'm sorry your boyfriend's dragged you out to this. I want to get questions from you guys. I'm really curious you know. And I want to say like his like whatever the joke I laugh like that's most remarkable to me is that Mick Foley starts talking about you know

that referee you know the referee Earl Hebner do you guys remember that the guy that screwed Bret Hart and Montreal and he says it again. The guy that screwed Bret Hart and Montreal literally he screwed Bret Hart. No it's not like Bret Hart was just laying over the ropes and then Earl Hebner

was behind going Bret you're the best there is. The best there was. The best there was. It was so good. Like it was exactly his book being told to you on stage. It was great. I actually thought the joke you were going to say is every time he referred

to like the the era and he talked about the attitude era. He's like you'd have like you know one there and there's all the WWF superstars and Al Snow. He'd always make the distinction. It was fucking great. So yeah Mick Foley you rock man.

Cool. Let's take some questions cause it's letter time. It's letter time. If you want to get your questions read on the air like we're about to do you can send those to superbestfriendcast at gmail.com. What the fuck did you just say? I said if you want

to send in questions you can send them to superbestfriendcast at gmail.com and we may read your questions just like this. Malik asks are you guys caught up on adventure time? I'm so caught up. No.

I'm not caught up. I'm like early season 5. I find it funny Matt. I'm not caught up as I'm holding an invention sword in a Game of Thrones style fashion. The episodes are 11 minutes long.

Yeah but I got you mother fuckers yelling at me that I gotta finish the wire. I gotta finish. I got stuff to do. Just stop doing your job. Just stop doing your job and just start watching TV. I don't pick up the slack for sure. It was just for me I caught up and then I lapsed.

That's the whole same thing. Because it always ends up in like a Sunday where you're like oh yeah I'm gonna watch 30 Adventure Time. I think you're done by lunch. No it's great. I feel bad. It's like I'm gonna fucking do it but we're all working on it.

We're working on it. We're relatively good. I hope adventure time doesn't go on too long. I hope it doesn't Simpsons. No I hope it goes on forever. Zombie adventure time. So here's the difference. One that would happen like what you hope is that Pen Ward will if he leaves or dies or whatever then they don't keep making it. Boy do I hope so.

Assuming it's bad. When Fiona gets a full blown season to herself I'll watch it. I'll watch it. The problem is you have to get like The Voices which is Neil Patrick Harris He'll do it.

What's he doing? What are these guys doing? They're doing nothing. Neil Patrick Harris wasn't like one of the worst movies I've ever released a few months ago. I forget what it was called but we talked about it one time. He'll do it. He really loves that kind of stuff. He's fine. Gileo.

I have to say Gileo wants to ask a super dumb question but it's not really super dumb Gileo. Are you guys hyped for Kill La Kill? Yes. Now I am. This was on our list of things to talk about. Now I was wondering where it went.

Into the Q&A section. You fucking manipulative assholes. You read that shit beforehand. You showed us that trick. He did. I told him to put Kill La Kill on the topic and really hit it and he knew.

I didn't go into the pop section because we was right there. I watched the Kill La Kill trailer. It looks fantastic. Trigger is coming to save anime. What did he think? For those of you who don't know what Kill La Kill is it is from Team Gurren Lagann. An FLCL.

Yes. What more do you need? The actual premise I suppose. They showed a 3 minute trailer and it looks really fucking cool and crazy epic battles and characters from a Gurren style show in a high school. Over the top, over blown.

The main character is girl Kamina and she's got a Sailor Fuku that's alive. I believe at the 2 minute mark you just see a drill. You just straight up see a drill. By the way, don't let the high school thing turn you off. Go look at it

because that's not any normal high school. I am watching this trailer and strike one of the first words that appears on the screen is high school and I'm already going just like

fuck and then Kamina shows up and there's drills and it looks just like the Gurren Lagann movies. It's like okay. There's a thing here. I'm cautiously optimistic

and they're keeping the art style too which I'm really happy about. No, we're really hyped for Kill the Kill. That's a given. October 3rd. What do you think Matt? Sean basically said the same thing.

As I heard about it months and months ago it's just made by Team Gurren Lagann. I didn't need to see anything. I had more faith than you guys. I didn't need to see anything. Lawrence asks do any of you guys play any virtual novels at all?

999 Phoenix Wright counts. If Phoenix Wright absolutely counts. Vroom Escape counts then fuck yeah 999 VLR and Ace Attorney. I haven't played VLR yet but I love the shit out of 999.

I've played every Ace Attorney that Capcom deems fit to release on the virtual world. The only reason why I haven't played VLR is because I was going to grab the 3DS and you both yelled at me. You both yelled at me and said no you had to play it on the Vita.

The digital version fixes it though. Apparently the digital one fixes it. But here's the deal. You yelled and said wait for the Vita version. Get it on the Vita rather. I don't have a Vita. Now there's Vita TV coming at me. It won't work because it's a touch screen game.

Touch is the main input for the game. No. Just buy a Vita. Buy a Vita. I've played a bunch of commercial visual novels that we've gotten in America like Phoenix Wright and VLR and Lux Payne.

As far as Japanese visual novels I'm sure people expect that I've played a lot but honestly Katawa Shoujo. That's it? You don't have Renpi? No. So many of them are just awful.

Renpi is a visual novel creating program. It's the Mugen. I have a copy of Song of Sia at home that I want to play. Because Gennaro Bochi can't get enough of that music. And that music. If you guys keep hearings, schizophrenia and the shit we use, it's because of me.

It's on purpose. I have Song of Sia and I want to play it but most visual novels are kind of derivative and not that great. They're barely games. It's not that they're games. The writing isn't up to books usually and the game is not games.

Well, it's most of the time you're coming from like the fucking H games. You just take the H out of it and you're giving it to the same writers. If you're playing a tight moon game or whatever. Oh yeah, I've played Fates Tangerine. I know I don't play visual novels

but I'm probably going to play Liberation Maiden Sin. If that ever comes out in English? Liberation Maiden Sin. Because I liked Liberation Maiden for the shmup and I stayed for the character. I really like Phoenix Drive.

It's a good visual novel game. Phoenix Drive? Is it just porn on new grounds? I'm afraid. I kind of assume one of you would know what the fuck I'm talking about. Is that that game of PS3 where you make girls pregnant?

It's not. People in the comments will know what I mean by Phoenix Drive. Conception, please bear my child is not about making girls pregnant? It's not. It's the title of the game. Then what the fuck is wrong with Japan?

Apparently it's just like there's this god who's just like if you two were to have a baby together this is what and you get these sprite children who fight with you. Apparently it's good. I don't really want to touch it. Yeah, the other visual

novel, Clanad. Clanad's fucking cry. Fucking god damn it, Matt! What is it? What is it? It's the fucking Ace Attorney porn game. God damn it, man. It's the one where more specifically it's the review.

It's the one where Maya's always yelling about getting pregnant. I've never heard about it. It's the review. There's something awful review of it that's really funny. Oh, something awful reviews aren't great. Okay, okay. I'm on board now. God damn it!

Fuck you! Shaya asks, is David Cage the biggest hack in all of entertainment? In all of entertainment? No. I'm going to go ahead and say no, Shaya. No. It's Peter Malinu.

No. It's Uve. You know who's given Uve a nice ride for his money? It's Shyamalan. Shyamalan. He's totally been taking a grasp of us. Fucking holy shit. The descent into hell.

What's the latest? I don't even know. No, he's Devon's in general. The last one was that elevator shit, I guess? No, the last thing was that Will Smith movie with his son. Oh! That was at night.

They don't market his name on it. They don't. It was a choke slam that was Avatar. The last airbender, the Avatar movie was a choke slam. It is the worst movie I have ever seen in my life.

It is not the worst movie I've ever seen in my life. It's the worst movie I've ever seen in theaters and paid for. And most people actually agree with those sentences. You know, there's tons of people that love it. I know people that love it. What's wrong with them? I know a former girlfriend

and it was amazing. And this is the same person that hated up. Wow. These parallels. Do I have to fucking paint a picture? Why are you friends with this person? No, no, not anymore. Ex-girlfriend of a friend.

Very good. Very good. Good that they are gone from our life. Jeez. Just a little curious. Are any of you guys fans of Tintin? Tintin? When I was young, I read...

I have three or four books, but I haven't really followed it. The movie was entertaining. The movie was really good. Tintin fucking rocks. It was really entertaining. I guess there's something wrong with that. You know, retintin. With that being said, you get it out of your systems.

I own every single Tintin book that ever been printed. I love the ever loving shit out of Tintin. It is not only my childhood. We both saw the movie together. It was a romantic time. It was fucking epic. Tears everywhere. Boat fighting.

Boats fight. Tears and other fluids. It was really great. Not only is it my childhood, but it's one of the things that I can go back to and it still stands up completely. You can read those. They are totally timeless.

Fucking Tintin and Snowy and Captain Haddock. The best. The absolute best. Captain Haddock is top tier. Captain Haddock for Smash. Blistering barnacles and the thundering typhoon. God damn it, just read the question. Sylvia asks, well, I guess for Woolly specifically,

hey, I'm a big fan of you guys and you're great. Thanks man. Sure, thank you. You like Genshiken, but recently the second series has turned into a sort of different direction with lots of Fujoshi and stuff like that.

Do you still feel the same way about Genshiken? I got something to say to that. What the fuck are you saying? Woolly read Genshiken back when it was coming out. Exactly, to sort of explain what this is. I know, a lot of words in here just like burp. Genshiken's got too much Fujoshi. Can't deal with that.

So Genshiken's the comic book, sorry, it's the manga about an anime club and I love it because when I was reading it, I knew those people in real life. It was like experiencing like archetypes that were just actually people I knew. And Fujoshi in the second issue are just like girl

fans that are really into fan fiction and and in the process. It's just the opposite of a guy. So it's a little too dark girl. Into yes, a little bit of that. Dark girl should be ashamed. Right, so heavy amounts of

Yaoi things happening and whatnot, like they're super into that stuff. I'm reading it. I'm like, this is a big twist. I was not expecting it to go in this direction, but the writing is still hilarious. The characters are still lovable. I'm having fun with it. I got no problems. You had like a six year gap between the two or whatever

gap it was. It was a while. I started reading Genshiken like last year. Woolly was like, oh, I really like that and I'm like, wow, really? I literally went straight from like the old Genshiken to the new Genshiken and like it's stunning how after the first chapter everything just feels like it almost never stopped.

One of the things I like the most is in the old Genshiken I didn't get all the cosplays and stuff but in the new Genshiken they just kept going and now they're doing like Madoka and Panny and Stocking cosplays in it and it's like, yeah, okay, they're just

literally just rolling with it and I like that. That's cool. You could like Genshiken more if it just turned into fighting game stuff more. They had a whole bunch of FGC jokes and stuff. They did. And the original opening always had guilty gear

and they played Capcom vs. S.N.K. My favorite joke was still the Puyo Puyo one. Do you remember that? Where they're playing Puyo Puyo and then Kosaka decides to go like really hard on her and like destroys her and she rolls up in like a ball on the bed under the blanket and she looks like a Puyo Puyo

and he's like, what's wrong? And she's like, it's Puyo Puyo cosplay. Are you excited yet? Uh, Robert just pretty much says I support Vin Diesel in his films because Tony Jaw will be making his American movie debut in Fast and the Furious 7.

Cool. I guess I gotta watch all the fast movies now. Thanks for that tip, Robert. Because Tony Jaw's came from the jungles to play his cars. Remember that time Tony Jaw was making On Fact 3 and he just said fuck it and went crazy and became a Buddhist monk and he went into a cave with some

old guy and a bunch of opium and he refused to come out. Was that the only guy Alan Moore? And now he's back and ready to come food dudes in the face again. They sat in cars. Alan Moore and Tony Jaw sat in a cave smoking opium and watching the wire.

That's pretty much what happened. It's true, it's real. Phillip wants to know if we, like he says we know, but I know JRPGs aren't high on your height meter. They are for me and Liam. I fucking hate them.

I hate it too. So it just feels like I really wanted to be interested in Zillia, but like it just doesn't break the mood. So for me it's like I played one Tales game, I played Tales of Destiny on PS1 and I really liked it. And then every time

I've played any other Tales game ever I've been awash with the feeling within 10 seconds like this is exactly the same game. This is exactly the same game. And that must, and so at first I thought maybe I'm just not into JRPGs as bad as I thought.

No, I'm so into them. This is not like people can't tell the difference between street fighter and dark stalkers because they're not into fighting games. This is, these games are exactly the same. And I know there's gonna be people writing, you idiot, the battle mechanic and the fucking thing

can change. Exactly. And Mugai has a sword and he does a Renzo or whatever, flaming sword sure you do. Demon Fang. It's always the same art style, it's always the same music. It's like oh fuck. And I've got a friend who's really in love

with the Tales game. And I saw some really cool moves and some really cool shit that I can understand when you're a kid like you'd be like really hype about these things. Cause you take an RPG and then you put a fighting game battle system in it and that sounds like it should be great. See the problem

with me is that I'm totally on board with that and right after I played Tales of Destiny I played Star Ocean 2 which is that but way more interesting in every single way. Sure. And then Star Ocean went to complete shit. Right. And died. And there were no games after Star Ocean 2.

It doesn't go through so far to some degree have a little bit of that going on as well. It has a taste. It's similar. It's similar. It's better. But no, for me it was when I, my friend brought over Tales of Symphonia to my house and said oh dude this supports four players and I was like

that sounds really cool. Yeah, let's go. Let's get out the controllers and play. And we fucking couldn't play because the camera won't follow anyone but player one. So you plug your camera you plug your controllers in and you all sit there and go I can't see shit. Yeah. We can't fight. We can't help you. Play is a made you

piece of shit. I don't want to play as genus. You know like why put the feature in if you're not even going to try to support it. Well in all fairness I think that was the first time they did it and it was such an extra but like I agree. Yeah but you DMC3 lets you plug in a controller and be a fucking doppelganger. And that's an easter egg. Yeah, that's

an amazing easter egg. It just fucking fell apart and then every other game since I've been looking at it like are you even doing different things? You've gone from words that are just weird and bad to just making up words like Legendia. Yeah. And it's like guys come on. I don't want to just shit on this

series because there's some cool stuff in it. You're doing a good job. But I really was disappointed with that multiplayer thing and I guess what. Okay well can I can I stop all you guys. That was the samurai shampoo art. That looks kind of cool. Yeah. Well you guys because I really enjoy the Tales games and everything you said

how I don't understand and I'm sure there's tons of differences. Yes there are. If you play the games there's tons of differences. I like the Tales games because they're not stupid, long, grindy, boring, Xeno gear style games. You don't know

anything about Xeno either. Do you know about Tales? I've beaten Tales games. Which ones? Destiny and I got about halfway through, no not halfway, I got a third through Vesperia. So Tales of Destiny was about 15 almost 20

years ago. Yeah. Right. And you just assume that they don't change or they don't fall. Well I played Vesperia and it felt almost identical to Destiny. Anyhow I really like the Tales games. Just ignore my point. Cause you're ignoring my point. Wow, so

okay in such words. So wow. When you're playing four players in Tales of Symphonia it was awful. It was awful if you play it incorrectly, which you did. The thing that you're supposed to be doing is that you're all supposed to have a formation. You're supposed to agree where you go.

It says in the instruction manual it's not great. It's not perfect. But there's a way you're supposed to play it and it can focus on everyone if you know your position. The specific thing I'm thinking of is when the battlefield has more than one enemy on it and I run off to take

this one and you guys take that one. And guess what? The guys who took this one are all fucking camera. There's a character who has a ability that circumvents that. Does a character have an ability to fix the camera? Our

friend told us about it. You give me shit over stuff like the Souls series and you're sitting here explaining this weird magical bullshit. You have to cast a spell to make the camera look at you. I'm just telling facts. What do you want me to tell you?

Stop making fun of Zenogears. That game's great. I'm making fun of Tales games. They're great. I just said I don't like them. I don't like Zenogears. You implied it was bad. Well, I did it was a grindy and is it not? There's no grinding in it.

Wow, look at his bitch face. Literally this is zero grinding in Zenogears because you buy your parts. Oh man. Philip, look what you did, Philip. I like Tales games. Zillia, I played it with our friend. Not super great.

There's a bunch of them. Tales of the Abyss is my favorite. This is Jim Sterling loving Dynasty Warriors. This is you not caring about JRPGs, but you like the baby RPGs. Well, they're not baby RPGs.

At the end of the day, it's just a niche thing. And there's a lot of guys who like it. There's probably a lesser amount who like Yakuza. And there's probably an equal amount who like Dynasty Warriors. And that's just what it is. It's not for everyone. No, I feel as if... Dynasty Warriors sucks ass, by the way.

It does. I agree on that. I disagree on that. Sorry, you know what? Let me take that back and just say mooso. Mooso. That being said, if there's ever a berserk mooso I'll buy it. You will buy every fist of the North Star

mooso, berserk mooso. The list goes on by the first fist. Because I actually... The thing about the Tales is that ultimately I think there's enough cool things in there that you could probably reboot into something cool with some drastic changes. But if you made drastic changes, it wouldn't be a Tales game anymore.

I do think Tales is a shake-up. The people that love and buy Tales year after year are like Super Robot Wars fans. They're into it. You're buying it like an EA Madden season. You're down for what's there. You don't want that much change. Who am I as a non-fan

to come and tell you it should be different? No, none of us have super valid opinions. I totally want Tales to continue to exist. Yeah, same. It's not offensive as a series. No, I don't know. But I really do look at it every year and I go, what does that name

even mean, guys? I remember, like I said, I saw the Samurai Shampoo Artist. I thought that was really cool for Tales of the Abyss. The one you're thinking of is Legende. And Legende is one I don't like, even though it's got cool stuff on paper. That's the only one that's 2D side-scrolling fighting. It's the closest that it gets to a fighting game.

Awful characters. What about Fantasia? That's my favorite one. All the modern 3D ones. That's the only one that's actually 2D. Because I actually like Fantasia a lot. And part of a little bit of my butt hurt is the four friends sitting there waiting.

And I just, we would have had such a good time if it worked. I think I'm with Woolly on this, not for the specific, but I think that part of the reason why I'm so averse to Tales is because of how shit Star Ocean became and I always preferred Star Ocean. That makes sense.

It's like Star Ocean 2 was the game I loved and it was very similar to Tales in a lot of ways. And then holy shit did Star Ocean die the most brutal death ever. There's a million RPGs. Is Star Ocean the thing that you show me of the cutscene of the little girl

and a guy in a ship, Star Ocean 4, and she has a mirror? That's the worst death of any series ever. That is the, like, bring it out back execution. Someone sat down. For the record, I'm talking about the cutscene with fate and limble. I don't know how to spell that.

But it's entitled Nappy Time. That was cool. There's so many bad ones. So if you want to see the death of a once great JRPG series just tighten Nappy Time Star Ocean

into fucking YouTube and just die. We can probably unite in our hatred on that. Someone sat down and yelled at me for an hour about how bad Star Ocean was. It's so bad. I got all the spoilers too from what it turned into

from what it was. Someone would leave, someone would sit there and actually design that and then the rest of his team would not just murder him. The twist is so nifty, but where to fuck your franchise over? Is it nifty though? The problem with the twist in 3

was that it was nifty and then in 4 they didn't undo it. They just rolled with it. After that, and after 4 it was a total disaster, we salted the earth harder and we never salted the earth.

This conversation is pretty awful for people who don't know anything about Star Ocean. It reminds me of that one comic where Papa E.A. is walking with one of their studios out back, where we go and Papa E.A. and there's just a pile of bodies that say bullfrog and redwood. And then in the next panel

Papa E.A. is just shooting the only young company in the head. You're like Old Yeller. If you don't know anything about Star Ocean or Tales I would say grab Star Ocean on PSP. I believe this is a digital title. You can get it on Vita. If you were to recommend a Tales game

tell us if it's on PS2 or 3DS. Tales of Fantasia, if you've got a GBA line around it it still holds up. Or a way to play GBA games. If you can do that without a GBA by all means. That would be weird though.

We have never done this. I did agree with you really quickly. Remember we were talking about you can buy levels in Vesperia and we both hated that. That was the birth of Scamco. That was the birth of Scamco. That was the birth. That's the best

weird idea and then there's so overpriced too. Buy your princes in catamari beautiful catamari. The thing that you used to unlock in the game your incentive is now just a purchase. Thanks Scamco.

That was a good question. That was like feel or good or question. Last question. Pretty straightforward. Teresa wants to know when are your birthdays? When are your birthdays? That's a bit weird.

We'll start with you. My birthday is December 4th. Make sure to get him a troll gift. My birthday is on Earth Day. It's on April 22nd. That was a dark day. If I could just say a bit about December 4th is that that is too early

for Christmas. But fucking not distanced enough to get two things. You only get one gift for all things. I know people that have a birthday on December 21st they get both. Those people are motherfuckers. They have good families.

They have bad families. I get the one card. Happy Christmas slash birthday. April 22nd is perfect. It's far away from fucking everything. I'm fucking filled with chocolate from Easter. And then I get slammed with gifts.

Same. I got July 6th. That's really good. You get a nice summer barbecue. It's right after summer starts. That's right after summer slams. No. When you're in school school ends July June 31st.

And high school I'm entering. I'm gonna have my birthday party in three weeks. It's the summer and my fucking birthdays in two weeks. Exactly. My birthday is August 27th. Which is kind of cool that killer is dead came out that day. I was like I'm gonna go pick up the game.

Flame of birthday game. Thanks Suda. And the EB game guy goes get out. We don't have the game. I got super pissed. Then you told me how they got it later after he said come back tomorrow. Matt bought a single muffin and put a candle.

I actually did buy a muffin that day. And then you gave me a muffin. A different cupcake. So what we do now is we play the creepy camp game where you take your birthday and count nine months back from that and try to tell the story about

what your friends parents were doing at the time that your conception happened. Oh god. Or we don't. Whatever. You already lost me. Matt and Karis were running from the corner. Huge question. I was like oh what month was it?

I guess. It was in the middle of winter. Well they got to get all snuggled up close and what not. I'd rather not. You know why that game sucks? Because whatever the fuck scenario you create you end up having to point at someone

and say think about your parents doing it. That's the point. No I fucking hate that. That's the creepy camp game. That's a bad game. You went to creepy camps. My creepy camp stories was shit about green ghost hands and shit. That's bullshit that said.

He spit his toothpaste on the floor. Imagine you're in a bunk in your cabin and you look through your window and you see a green face staring at you. That's bullshit. Those horrible ghost stories are so much better because I would go to these fucking scout camps.

So I was in the fucking boy scouts. And all the dudes that would volunteer and run the shit they were all such huge assholes they would tell us bullshit ghost stories and then dress up like monsters or fucking go and act them. So they would say oh there's the green hand it got cut off a dude and they'd fucking get a hand

on a stick. Gang it against kids windows. Nice. Nice. RL style. They were such assholes. They were the best. You've got the big cabin and you've got the big open windows

and then they tell you the story about the cabin that was found where the traveler sat and he saw all these freaky things like he saw all these freaky paintings on the wall of like a woman hanging and monsters staring at you and stuff and he wakes up in the morning and their window was not paintings oh my god.

Imagine today at camps when they tell the story about the Korean mom that's crying for where's my baby. Imagine they tell that to kids today kids would fucking just kill themselves. This is getting pretty spooky in here. This is my channel.

Thank you. Like I mentioned before there's going to be our Comic Con video this week for sure. Lots of dumb antics. We're still continuing our playthroughs of

Super best friends in the goproposy. I almost didn't have the energy to say in the goproposy. Let's call it satisfied it's quicker. That's what I called it. And maybe a new playthrough this week if we have time. Man if we were all sitting around the campfire

at summer camp and someone just pulled up in to goproposy with a flashlight David Cage Bullshit Bullshit Fucking running home. You trip over a copy of Heavy Rain

Oh no. And then you look up onto the room and you do so. We'll see you guys next week. Bye.