Castle Super Beast - SBFC 020: Super Best Christmascast

Episode Date: December 24, 2013

Nothing but good vibes and fuzzy memories from the Zaibatsu. Seasons greetings to you and yours, folks.Got a question for us? Send it to: superbestfriendcast@gmail.com...

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Music Music Music Music Music Yeah there everyone. I want to welcome you to the Super Best Friend. Welcome. The Super Best Christmas Cast. Episode 7200. 20. 20.
Starting point is 00:00:42 I was close. We've been working up to this. Happy Holidays. I hope everyone's enjoying their holiday season. And the Christmas spirit. I don't even have a fire on my TV. You should get that. You should get that. I found that Netflix channel. Oh. The Netflix channel that's just fire? Yeah. Not even shitting. I hope everyone's got their loved ones all bundled up nice and tight. We've got a special episode for you. Possibly have their pets and tiny sweaters. That are holiday themed. Recommended, yeah. We're just sitting here sipping our holiday
Starting point is 00:01:13 nog mixed with Baileys. Woolly definitely recommends this drink. It's nice and warm. Yeah. It's very cozy. So Yeah. I think we're gonna basically just go through some Christmas memories and Have some memories and some stories. Good story times. Yeah. Enjoy some festive Christmas balls. You guys like to see a plate of my Christmas balls? Yeah. How many do you have? More than you think. How many do you think
Starting point is 00:01:42 we could fit into our mouths? We'll find out. Okay. We'll find out later on the Christmas Cast. After sharing some memories I think There's a lot of news. It's a busy world out there. A little crazy. Yeah. It's all slow lately now. What with the holidays? They haven't gone home. They're not making news. Well, that's it. I think sometimes you just gotta ease on back and just remember the good times. If people don't go on Twitter that much, there's not much news because you can't make fun of whoever talks on Twitter. In fact, when you're on Twitter during the holidays,
Starting point is 00:02:13 none of your messages actually get out. Especially if you're... The Twitter mailman. Yeah, he just stops. Especially if you're on your way to Africa and you make a tweet that says that I hope I don't get AIDS. Haha. I'm white. Just kidding. So when you're stuck in a plane, your tweets don't get out. Yeah, that didn't happen. No one did that. Especially not somebody who works in PR who should know better. That's their only job, is to not do things like that. Most anticipated plane landing since Commando.
Starting point is 00:02:45 Yes. Oh my God. Yeah, you remember that? Oh, yeah. It's near and dear to my heart. I forgot about that. I know. So I think after some sharing and some... Some sharing. Some bonding. We're going to be going through a fuck ton of letters. I read a metric fuck ton of letters. Which probably means... What's the measure for that? It means for the holidays, it's letter time. It is letter time. The whole time, folks. Anything in our P.O. box.
Starting point is 00:03:18 We didn't get anything yet. Great. Thanks. Yep. Nothing yet. Well, see, that's good and bad. You didn't get a creepy Jaguar. You also didn't get an actual Jaguar. What's a creepy Jaguar? One that's real. What's the difference? No, I mean, like the Atari Jaguar is creepy. I thought you meant a man and a Jaguar. Can we have a little cheers to the holiday season, folks? Cheers to the holiday seasons. Love that nog. You don't love it then. No, I think I read about 1,500 questions yesterday.
Starting point is 00:03:58 That's pretty good. How many of them were good? I selected about 40. That's a low percentage. That is technically my fault. That is less than 1%. I am not inspiring good enough questions to come in. I thought you were going to say your letter writing skills were below par. No, I'm trying. They are. So to people writing in, we appreciate all of your emails. That being said, if you could make them not bad, that would be super.
Starting point is 00:04:32 It would be swell. Indeed. If you're about to send an email and you go, is this terrible? And if the answer is yes, then you could try again. You wouldn't answer the question yourself for 70,000 people. Odds are we're not going to do that. Or you could email us every week to ask us if we saw the Jojo teaser. Did you guys see it? Yes, we did. We did see that Jojo teaser. Are we playing Walking Dead soon?
Starting point is 00:05:01 Are we playing Walking Dead? Calm down. Are you going to wait for the full season to come out? I don't know. But you didn't do that for Wolf Among Us. We didn't. But then again, we thought, tell us how we did them. Guys, we're getting a little stressed here. Calm it down. There's no fighting around. No one's ever gotten killed.
Starting point is 00:05:21 It's not like the holidays are the suicide capital of the year. The holidays are a place. You go to Christmas and kill yourself. It's like the bridge. It's like that suicide. Oh no, it's the land of the misfit toys. So in the spirit of being Crosby, let's all be our kids and have a good time remembering the good old days.
Starting point is 00:05:47 Shall we? So, Matt. Little young Matt, opening up his presents. Remember when you were a tiny baby? A wee little Christmas morning. Last week. Little taut wakes up excited. Oh, I thought you said I was taut.
Starting point is 00:06:07 No, you're a little taut. He was always very taut. Your hat's too big for your head. The skull beanies. You run downstairs. You open up your presents on Christmas morning. What did Santa get for you? I remember Christmas morning where it was just straight up in NES.
Starting point is 00:06:26 And I think I mentioned this in a video where I got every system late. I got the Atari 2600 when the NES was popular. And it's stacked like that. A generation later. I got NES a year before the Super Nintendo came out. So thanks mom and dad, but whatever, no, it's fine. Appreciate your parents. I had a grandmother who was looking at me and my sister play Mario Brothers
Starting point is 00:06:51 and go, why are you so enamored with watching a small man run around on the TV? And I'm like, shut up, grandma! That was a... You whore! That was a precious Christmas memory. That's really good. What about you, Wolves? Personally, I remember when we got our systems, we got our Super Nintendo,
Starting point is 00:07:13 two controllers, of course, and ripped it open and had one of those Nintendo 64's. Right. The first Super Nintendo. Yeah, but first Super Nintendo. Does it rain as well by saying Super Nintendo? Yeah. And you're so excited that you run to go hug the person and then they go, oh, give that person a hug too.
Starting point is 00:07:32 And you don't even care. You're just patting them on the shoulder. And then you disappear for the rest of the night as you and your brother just, you're in the basement sitting that shit up. Absolutely. That's how it goes. No, it was good times. I miss holiday console releases because that's what it was when you were a kid.
Starting point is 00:07:50 Yeah. But they never came out at different times. It's just you had to wait. You had to wait till Christmas. Because you couldn't buy it. Absolutely. You could possibly buy a console when it gets released. Right.
Starting point is 00:08:00 Idiots. And so that's stupid morons. And I have a theory about that. I think that because those first three maybe consoles were all given to you as Christmas presents, and you're getting them at the height of like possible excitement. You couldn't have received them in a more opportune scenario. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:08:20 So like your love and sentiments and feelings of like, oh my God, joy aren't all projected onto this thing. Onto like a Super Nintendo or something. Yeah. Versus the Wii that you just walked out and picked up when it came out. And you had a miserable time trying to get it. And some fucker sent you on a wild goose chase and your pre-order got canceled. And the difference is that when you are a kid, you get those fuzzies,
Starting point is 00:08:44 but you don't get any of the bad stuff. Yeah. But what ended up happening is that the parents got no fuzzies because they don't give a fuck. And they got all the bad stuff. So then they look at your dumb video game box and they're like that fucking thing. At least the kid will shut up for a while. Yeah. But make sure to tell them not to plug it in directly to the TV because it messes up the
Starting point is 00:09:05 reception. Yeah. Right. Oh, I know that one. The RCA cable. You don't plug it into the good TV. You're going to mess up the TV. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:09:15 Because every time you press the power button, it'd make the screen flicker. Right. And technologically illiterate people. You know that your parents weren't at the time. There's something wrong with that flicker. They think you're breaking the TV. Yeah, okay. You know?
Starting point is 00:09:26 Yeah. So put it in through the VCR or use the bad TV downstairs. Go use the TV in the porch or the basement. No. Yeah. But this is where the good TV. Yeah. And it was to the point where like a couple years ago, like not even that long ago, my
Starting point is 00:09:40 friend, I went to his house and like he has the like old school West Indian parent that still doesn't understand that. So when you're plugging component cables in and she's still like not on the good TV, it's like, no, do you, do you understand the technology has changed? And the TV is made for this? Like video games have changed. They have. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:10:02 Um, besides that annoying shit. No, nothing but good holiday memories, man. Turn to channel three. Yeah. Yeah. Of course I've explained before though that usually the one sad thing is being so close to my birthday. It's all bundled up into one.
Starting point is 00:10:16 That's, that's rude. That's true. Yours is a little like, and I don't think that's exactly fair. Yeah. It's, I know like someone, they celebrate three birthdays on December 22nd. That's rough. Well, that's. But then they celebrate Christmas.
Starting point is 00:10:29 Okay. That's bullshit. You don't get that. Yeah. Cool. Then they'll acknowledge how bullshit that is for you and still get you. Yeah. Totally.
Starting point is 00:10:38 But for the most part, people are lazy. Bullshit. Yeah. That's bullshit. Eradicated by Jesus. Santa said as he spat his Jesus onto the floor. Next to the toothpaste. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:10:50 No, he was brushing his teeth. Commuting was rough that year. Liam, tell me, tell me about young Liam's Christmas day miracles. Video games. You found an NES in the way. No, just in general. Just in general. How about that time you got a pony?
Starting point is 00:11:02 You found a Genesis and decided to get Moose. Punching bag, not a pony. Oh. That was pretty cool. What about the time that your dad set you up on his lap and you guys drove the tractor for the first time? That happened. Of course it did.
Starting point is 00:11:14 Not at Christmas because why would you drive a tractor at Christmas? Of course it did. But it happened. Then he put his cap on you, tear your book out and stuff. For Christmases, boy. I didn't really get consoles at Christmas because like I got them super ultra late and the first one that I got anywhere near release was the GameCube. I can't remember why but we got that in November so it wasn't even a Christmas thing.
Starting point is 00:11:36 I think the first one I launched or was it the year that it came out or not? It was the year that it came out. Yeah, I got Pikmin and Wave Race and I'm inclined to think that was a Christmas gift but it's been like 40 years since the GameCube came out. Pretty bomb. Yeah, I got a lot of kick ass games for Christmas that I really remember. Game and Watch Gallery 3. Boy, I wish Nintendo would make another Game and Watch Gallery.
Starting point is 00:11:59 I always liked them but a lot of people hate them and I can't blame you. Legend of Zelda, Oracle of Ages. That was too hard for my you little bad experience. It's so fucking hard that game. No, good Christmas is all around. I have a question and it's something I'm wondering about. Did you get gifts under the tree in addition to stuffing stalkers? I did but only up to a certain point that my parents were like, fuck it.
Starting point is 00:12:32 I got Christmas presents underneath the tree but the stalking stuff was just always like tiny bullshit. But you would get a chocolate orange or some equivalent chocolate, a candy cane and like socks or a man. That's what the stalking stuff used to be. But you had a stalking. Yeah, you too as well. Under the tree was for something that came in a box, like a proper object.
Starting point is 00:12:59 Are you Christmas butthurt because your gifts were merged between birthday and Christmas? No, I had a thought in my head. White people, stalking stuffers are exclusively a white privilege because we did not have that shit at all. What do you mean more than one gift? What are you talking about extra things on the side? Boy, do you feel like your butt hurts? It was introduced to me way later because when I went to friends' houses and things like that, I was like, oh, Christmas is different over here.
Starting point is 00:13:37 I really don't want to talk about what I used to get for Christmas now. Of course not. But there's these tears where you say that and that's accurate. But I knew two or three kids that would be like, I haven't stopped getting my Christmas gifts. Like well into January or whatever. Like my parents couldn't get them imported or from Italy or whatever. Like these rich asshole kids. Did you mean Hanukkah gifts by any chance?
Starting point is 00:14:06 No, no, no, no. Okay. No, I knew a kid that's like, oh, they're sending me a bike. Well, I guess like I was really fortunate in that sense because like as terrible as it sounds, my parents were divorced, right? So I had both houses to- Good for you! You know?
Starting point is 00:14:20 Double up on those presents. And then I went to my grandma's house. You know? Buy the child's love. You know? Like, it was a good time. Speaking of which, great video game gift I got from my grandma, Persona 4. Yeah!
Starting point is 00:14:32 That's one of my grandma's, the best grandma. Your grandma is down the sugar begaro. She got me the orange box one year, Persona 4, great grandma. Oh, you kids with your cute little social links. How's the Persona 4 Liam? Yeah. Wow. Yeah, no, Christmas memories for me is mostly just me and like 10 cousins sledding and enjoying outside and snow.
Starting point is 00:14:59 Now it's just sad because we're all old and we don't do anything. Oh, yeah. To me, I just hear the sounds of my aunt and parents fighting and people- Oh, yeah. That's fun though. Because that's what Christmas fights. Yeah, exactly. That's what Christmas is.
Starting point is 00:15:13 Christmas fisticuffs. Pat, tell us about your Kwanzaa memories. I didn't know you saw really Kwanzaa. I didn't know that also. I am new to the Kwanzaa tradition. Yep. I hope I don't make an ass out of myself. On a serious note, however.
Starting point is 00:15:30 In terms of Christmas memories, most of them run together. Really. Yeah. Every Christmas was more or less the same. There are only two that stand out in my brain. There's the Christmas where I got a Sega Saturn because my father made a mistake. I had wanted to get my brother and I both wanted Sonic 3D Blast on the Genesis, which is terrible. Connoisseurs.
Starting point is 00:15:55 But we did not know that at the time because we just bought it because the ads told us. Yeah. My dad ran out and picked it up and brought it home. And on December 24th, when my parents were wrapping the gifts, my mom looks over and said, they don't own that system. That's a Saturn game. They have a Genesis. And he goes, shit.
Starting point is 00:16:13 And he runs out. It's too late to return it. And it's too late to get a different one. And he sees that the Saturn is dying. And that if you buy a Saturn right now and you get Virtua Fighter and Virtua Cop and Daytona USA. He said, ah, fuck it. So my brother and I on Christmas morning. Oh, my sister was there too.
Starting point is 00:16:32 She was eating the fuck. We opened up and we said, oh no. This is the wrong thing. This is the wrong thing. And then my parents were like, well, there's that other box that we have completely hid behind the tree where no one could see. What could this be? And it had a very intense Nintendo 64-S freak out moment. And going from a Genesis and having never seen.
Starting point is 00:17:00 I didn't go to the arcade because it was too young. And going straight from like Sonic and Knuckles to Virtua Fighter II was the fucking craziest goddamn thing. How's the Saturn version of Sonic 3D Blast? Terrible. But not as incompetent. Right. The only other Christmas memory of note is when I was four. I made my dad's life miserable because in October or November, my parents have gotten a video camera because it was like, I don't know, the 1990s.
Starting point is 00:17:31 Like, oh, we got a video camera. We can record the holidays now. We're recording on YouTube. And it's like, ah, Pat, we got to make Santa's lunch, you know, all this shit, right? And I go, well, how did, and I'm at that age where I'm asking, well, how's Santa do all this stuff, right? It's magic, right? Like, you can't, you know, he's super fast and all that shit. So you just bought the video camera.
Starting point is 00:17:51 Why don't you just put it in the living room and record the dead? Yeah. Yeah. And my dad goes, ugh. And Santa has optic camos. My parents, being the awesome people that they did, went and pointed it, were, or are, set up the tripod, set the video camera to look straight at the tree and where all the presents would be, and spent the entire evening making a stop motion animation of every present warping into existence on the other tree. Shut up.
Starting point is 00:18:26 Why are you guys just pressing Santa? Because fuck that, that's lazy. So just press stop, put the present down, and press start again. That's awesome. It's like a 10, 15 minute video of all the presents just appearing magically. Totally convinced. Oh, wow. That reminds me of, like, it must have been like three or four years ago.
Starting point is 00:18:46 I have tons of young cousins, and they still believe in Santa. You do. And so my dad went out at night, and he climbed up on the roof, and he made the footsteps to the chimney, and then walked backwards through his footsteps and down. It was great. No, it was super cute. That's nuts. No, actually, you guys just reminded me of the one really, really awesome Christmas we had in Grenada that I blotted out of my memory, actually. Yeah, this is going to be an ignorant question.
Starting point is 00:19:17 But Grenada is relatively warm the whole year, correct? Yes. There are two seasons, rainy season and dry season. Okay, so there's no fucking snow. There is no snow to be had. No reindeer. No reindeer. Just rain.
Starting point is 00:19:30 That's it. And no, one year, like, my mom just decided to go all out for my brother and I, and basically just went, alright, I always told you guys I wanted to take you fishing for Christmas, so this Christmas we're going fishing. That sounds so cool. For some reason. Have my head. No, but we were super unhyped because fishing is not like fishing like what you're thinking of. Oh yeah, cool.
Starting point is 00:19:55 No, it's just like, oh, these dudes on the beach with their fucking weird, what? These weirdos on the beach would be the guys that fish. We don't want to go hang out with those guys. Oh, that's not what fishing is in my head. Fishing in my head is going out on a boat. Exactly. And putting your feet up and talking chill with your dad for like three hours. Like, fishing in Grenada is like, let's go out on the dock or whatever.
Starting point is 00:20:14 Oh, that's bad. So we're like, oh, fuck, no. And then, and then Christmas, she told us in advance. Oh yeah. To get your expectations right. Now, Willie, I'm going to throw your gifts in the water. You've got to fish them out. And then, and then Christmas Day came and she's like, okay, so I got your hooks, guys.
Starting point is 00:20:31 She woke us up. It's like, okay, you guys ready to go fishing? It's guys like, here you go. And she hands us these really cute sea like homemade hooks. I see where this is going. With like, yeah, like a little colored like kind of candy cane rope and right thing. And in our living room, for some, for some weird reason, we had to the door in and out of the living room were like saloon doors.
Starting point is 00:20:52 I don't know why. I don't know a lot of pornography in your living room. But there's this saloon doors where the top and bottom are open. Yeah. So we go in there and she's like, okay, guys are like, what? She's like, cast your ropes, cast your, your line. In on, and so it's like, over the door. And so we throw it over the door and then like she makes her fishy noises, which is
Starting point is 00:21:16 fishy, fishy, fishy. Sheingo. And like, you know, one by one, we get bites on our line and we pull it over and it's a gift from me or it's a gift from my brother. Is it a fishing rod? Yeah. And we pull them open. I remember.
Starting point is 00:21:37 I'm like, uh, like my brother got like the Raphael toy with like the talking script in the back and I had that one from Mike. Yeah. We got, we got a bunch of toys and then eventually she's like, there's still bigger fish down here. And we're like, what? And we're like, we have all the toys around us. Bullshit mom.
Starting point is 00:21:53 Yeah. And she's like, no, there's a big one. And then like we both have to hook onto the fish and we're yanking the heavy, heavy thing over and it's a giant Lego play set. Yeah. And then she's like, there's more fish. And it was this awesome morning of just like the most presents I've ever gotten. I don't know like what inspired, like what made her just want to do that, but she
Starting point is 00:22:16 just went all out one year and bought us a ton of presents. And now that I'm thinking about it, it was probably out of guilt. I just heard like bad things because, you know, that was my... Because Grenada. Because Grenada and the reasons why we're in Grenada, you know, my parents got divorced too late. Yeah, no one happens. We got pulled down there and so that was probably what it was.
Starting point is 00:22:40 It was a great memory. I remember, I remember there was a Christmas. So remember people, if you ever get divorced, just buy your child's love. They won't realize for another 20 years. I didn't realize until like right now. I'm not even kidding. We were talking about Christmas feels. Because I'm thinking about Grenada.
Starting point is 00:23:01 Look at the timing and all that. Yeah. And it's like, I'm like, I don't know because no other Christmas was like that one. And it's probably because of that. No. No. I remember Christmas where I got to my grandma's place and me and my six odd cousins were on the same age as me.
Starting point is 00:23:20 We all got the same, fuck what are they called? Not super soakers, but the ones with Nerf guns. We all got the same Nerf gun. You mean foam shooters. Foam shooters. Oh man. And they were like. Like that sounds lame, but it's actually super awesome.
Starting point is 00:23:35 It was like grandma's house is like three stories and it's huge and it was packed with people and there was six people, six, seven people running around with Nerf guns shooting each other all night. Nice. It was so fun. Okay. Were you guys on the train when the first home's laser zap laser tag sets were made? No.
Starting point is 00:23:56 Me. They're cool. There was like laser tag. On the high train. Yeah. Yeah. I think that laser quest. No.
Starting point is 00:24:04 It's okay. The laser quest. Laser quest is what we know, but they made the home versions. Yeah. Right. I never had them, but I remember. We freaked out. We wanted them so hard.
Starting point is 00:24:12 I had one and it kind of sucked. But that's the thing. It wasn't here for Christmas, but it wasn't the good one with the silver imitation. It was the shitty knockoff that would beep every five seconds. So you put the shield on your chest and it goes. Okay. And you're like, what's the point of hiding and shooting if I can just hear you all the time?
Starting point is 00:24:33 Well, and that's the meta game bullshit. It was super lame. But it's just bullshit. Nerf guns. We returned them. Nerf guns will always be better because you get to hit someone with a projectile. And they'll always be worse because every time you test out your Nerf gun, you unintentionally hit your father right in the face.
Starting point is 00:24:48 Like five Christmases in a row. But that's kind of the best fit. The thing we projectile weapons is that you're going to find them under shit for years to come. Reminding you of battles long before. When I moved out of my parents place, when we moved to my bed from where it was, like we found like two Nerf darts that I had lost like 10 years prior. I was like, oh, I wish I had these.
Starting point is 00:25:11 But then the glue on the stickers was off and you couldn't use them. But you still kind of want the gun right now just to shoot them real quick. It was the clip loading one of the sucker darts. I love the sucker darts. They stick to your sister's forehead real good. You know what? Nothing. It's a Nerf gun.
Starting point is 00:25:29 Come on. Come on. There was a Christmas. A couple shooter. There was Spider-Man Web Shears. Oh, fuck that. I was like, even as a kid, you know, I go, you know what? I bet that shit.
Starting point is 00:25:45 I bet that don't fucking work. You're suddenly being decisive. You can make judgment calls. Because there's some superhero powers you're like, yeah, I can see whatever. Hulk hands. Hulk hands. I'm like a Taser. I'm like a Taser.
Starting point is 00:26:00 I'm trying to get hundreds of guns, but you know, no matter what, your fucking Spider-Man Web Shooters will not make me feel anything. The warnings are, warning, do not attach this to buildings and try to jump from them. Silly string does not stick to anything. My brother and I had a Christmas too when we were a bit older. I think like I was around nine and I think he was like 11 or 12. And we went out to Toys R Us and we went to go buy our Nerf guns. Yeah. Yeah, Nerf guns on sale.
Starting point is 00:26:28 Dude, let's go get one. Oh man, I really want to go buy some Nerf guns right now. Let's do it. And there's actual sites about how to mod them to fire harder and stuff. Oh yeah. Oh yeah. Like in corporate environments. You'd be amazed how much damage a plastic project I made out of foam can do if you strap a knife to it.
Starting point is 00:26:50 No. Nerf bayonets, whatever. Pat can't play with the other children anymore. No, so we went out to Toys R Us and I remember specifically. You're a sick weapon mod. I bought a Warthog, right? It was a Warthog Nerf gun. It had a dual fire.
Starting point is 00:27:07 And I meant the halo. Yeah. It was a gun that had like Warthog teeth coming out of it. Yeah. It shot two at a time and you had a quick reload on the front. I remember that thing. Yeah. And my brother bought the secret shot, which was like a normal single shot, but there was a fire from the bottom.
Starting point is 00:27:22 So you put your hands up and you go like, I surrender. Fuck you. Yeah, exactly. Which is a gimmick that works all of once. All of once. And you miss. And not even once because you miss. We know what's on the box.
Starting point is 00:27:32 Yeah, exactly. We've seen you advertise this. That's your gimmick. Yeah. But we went to go get them and we totally got them and we were standing in line and we just had one of those awesome moments where, you know, cool old guy in front of us is like we're talking about how excited we are and we're just standing there waiting and cool little guy looks back at us and just goes, put your guns on the counter too. Aw. And we're like, wait, wait. And he's like, yeah, come on.
Starting point is 00:27:57 And he buys us our Nerf guys. And then he's like, I'll give you a ride home. Get in my van. My creepy Nerf van. Yeah. And we're like, aw, thanks. And he's like, I have a good one, kids. And we ran out into the car and told dad, dad, some guy, buddy.
Starting point is 00:28:05 It was awesome. That's really cool. Yeah. When I go to my parents house, I was just thinking about this. I should probably dig through the old photos because there's one photo of me on Christmas day where I'm staring at the camera like super jubilant, jubilation. All over. Exuding from me because I have both Castle Grayskull and Skeletor's Lair play sets together. And I have all my dudes set up.
Starting point is 00:28:35 And I'm just like, I'm just like flipping the bird of the camera going, yeah, fuck her. And I think I have one of them still. One of them like, so, you know, garage sales of Destiny, everything must go. But I should try. I'm not sure if you're all down, but maybe if anyone can try to, if you have any, like. Old photos. Old Christmas toy photo. Okay.
Starting point is 00:28:57 People might like to see that. Maybe, man. I mean. No one needs to, but. I've got the old, like, one of the first times playing the NES photos kind of thing. I don't got anything like that. But yeah, like I've got one of those, but the toy stuff is tough. Because we had like a bunch of cousins.
Starting point is 00:29:11 It was like seven or eight of us all in the same house going nuts. Yeah, I don't have any cousins. I don't wait. I do. I hate cousins, but I hate them. I have two cousins. Wait. No, I have three.
Starting point is 00:29:22 Well. Anyway. Big, big crazy soul food family. I didn't exist back when I was doing real Christmas. Okay. Fair enough. But no, and like, and like, we had collectively all together, like, the biggest fucking GI Joe collection ever.
Starting point is 00:29:38 Oh man. That's fun. And like, we had the workshop down. If like, Zartan's waist popped off, get the rubber bands, open it up. Yeah, of course. To twist the inside back, you know. And like, it went, and then we'd all bust out the play sets and get the different things going.
Starting point is 00:29:52 And like, you put that all together and you had like a basement wardrobe. Yeah. That's amazing. That's sick. Um, a Christmas I really liked. I was, I mean, I was kind of young at the time, not babby young, but like, I still lived in my mom's. Uh, it was the year that we came out.
Starting point is 00:30:05 Um, I have. She had a babby young. I had so much. You're still a babby though. I had so much fun because I have a very large family and they were, we were all playing. I can totally see this. Grandpa was playing it. E-Sports is the best Christmas ever for a ton of people.
Starting point is 00:30:20 E-Sports made an amazing Christmas. Yeah, I'm sure the Englishers will agree with like everyone. Oh yeah. And like my stepmom tossed, she got the inaugural toss the Wii remote while you're playing baseball. Oh. And my cousin, when he was playing bowling, hit it into the ceiling as he lifted it. Nothing impaled the TV though. Nothing impaled the TV.
Starting point is 00:30:38 It landed on a couch right next to the TV. Okay. So it was actually more than fine. It was the baseball game. The baseball game. The baseball game is what destroyed everyone. It's the killer. The strap was on.
Starting point is 00:30:47 The strap tore off. They never actually even played baseball. Because people were swinging like a real bat. Yeah. No, not only were they doing that, the main problem was in the bat. The main problem was the pitch. And the problem was that people were throwing the controller out of their hands. And expecting the strap to take all of it.
Starting point is 00:31:05 All of it. And then the strap would break eventually. Yeah. And they would have completely let go of the controller. Right. And it would hit and smash in their tongue. It was indeed the swing on this one though. Oh really?
Starting point is 00:31:15 And it broke the strap and it just slipped right out of their hands. Which is a shame because if there's one game you could have done without, it would have probably been the baseball game. Oh yeah. Because golf and bowling. Bowling, golf and boxing are the shit. And tennis was the hardest one. I remember when I went to bed, my dad and like...
Starting point is 00:31:33 They were playing bowling all night. They were playing bowling all night. I got up in the morning and it was still on. Right. Which is whatever. I didn't give a shit until the GPU overheated. Nice. And that was just a really fun Christmas week of playing Wii Sports with everybody.
Starting point is 00:31:47 I think he's doing the ski jump or some sort of thing where he's got to launch himself. It sounds familiar. Yeah. And he does, like he gets really straight and he's trying to like land something. I assume it's some minigame collection. Maybe not Wii Sports. But he does and he gets so straight that he starts tipping over, knocks into his flat screen and then there's a cat in the background that just goes nuts in the circle.
Starting point is 00:32:07 That's awesome. And the screen falls down and like it's a hilarious game. I remember last year, last year I brought my little brother and sister an Xbox 360 with Kinect because it was cheap. It was affordable. Teach them the whole thing. And they're dumb enough to think it's good Kinect? No.
Starting point is 00:32:25 I mean like they don't play games a ton. You know, like they're just enjoying it. But like my brother likes sports and hunting and my little sister is a little sister and they do what they do. I don't know. My stepmom bought Just Dance 4 or whatever, whichever Just Dance was out. And I remember dancing with my dad and there was this one move where you had to put your finger in the air.
Starting point is 00:32:47 And my dad slammed his finger into the ceiling fan. It was the funniest moment of Christmas by far. My dad gets your hand chopped off. No, them racing to the hospital trying to stitch it back on. It was just a wooden ceiling fan. Throw it on ice. Boy, was it funny. It was one of those moments where you're like everything was so ecstatic and fun.
Starting point is 00:33:04 Cause like dad never dances. It just kind of made it. Board games. Sorry? Board games. Of course. Either during Christmas or New Year's Eve. Not at my house.
Starting point is 00:33:16 Always board games. The Game of Monopoly. The inaugural Game of Monopoly. No, Scategories. Yeah. Or Pictionary. Or Everyone's Awful. God, I'm so nervous cause I have a do or die Game of Pictionary.
Starting point is 00:33:30 I have to play with my girlfriend's gigantic ginormous family of the cast of Sopranos. I'm sure you're good at it. Liam, I am. I rocket that Wii version. The Wii U version of it. Right. One a million times. Actually, yeah, you did.
Starting point is 00:33:46 Your handy art skills took you to the top. And like, Liam, give me a refill of that eggnog. Yeah, sure. I guess board games is a Christmas thing. But board games at my house were unofficially banned. Oh. Forever. Due to the murders.
Starting point is 00:34:00 Because of that body that had to be disposed of that one time. Every single person in the family's favorite game was risk. Oh no. Stop board games. My mom, dad, my brother and sister and I all loved risk. And it would literally start like Christmas morning or somebody's birthday. And never end. The boring day in the summer and my dad and my sister would barricade themselves into
Starting point is 00:34:34 some bullshit with a lead and just draw us out. And it would last like three, four entire days. Because ego is the only way to end the game of risk. And my dad and my sister were the worst about it. Where dad is good at risk. And we would know that. We wouldn't win anyway. So we'd like, well, focus a little bit more on dad.
Starting point is 00:34:58 Right. Right. But dad doesn't want to get beaten by his kids at risk. It's a game of intelligence. And my sister is almost as good, but even more stubborn and like I have to win. Right. And it became like, it had to go. So really it ends with a trip down to the pig farm, feeding the parts of whoever had to
Starting point is 00:35:20 go. Dispose of that shit. A mom would always go, oh fuck it. I can't. Okay. Like I can't. Like it's been like a whole day. Right.
Starting point is 00:35:32 And then I would usually get knocked out the soonest because I was like six. Yeah. No mutton. I had the arms. It's Africa. Like you don't know how it is. Yeah. Fucking Madagascar man.
Starting point is 00:35:45 Whoever gets Madagascar. My brother and my sister and dad would always race to Australia. Barricade Australia. Yeah. Man, I wish they made a risk game of metal gear on them. Yeah. That would be great. You know, it would be really nice.
Starting point is 00:36:01 It would be awesome if we made a video about it. Anyway. No, I had an aunt that would be the banker and she'd try to be the banker in Monopoly. That sounds terrible. This sounds like it's going to be good. But we would refuse to let her every year because when she used to do it she would cheat like a motherfucker story. Yeah, the bank quote.
Starting point is 00:36:24 Mad Bill's under the board, under every corner, tucking them into her bra. Like whatever the fuck. Calling you out Woolies on. Yeah. No, it was bullshit. Who cheats their family in a Monopoly game? Exactly. Who does that?
Starting point is 00:36:38 And like she was, it was her house. So like she'd invite us over and make the big turkey dinner. And she was super like matrily the entire time. Except for that. But when it's business time, it's fucking business time. But it's not, it's Monopoly, you know. And plus cheating. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:36:54 And like my little four year old niece is like crying and she's like, pay up, pay up. You got to pay the bank, you know? Like shit was awful. It was never great. We, you and I both own it but I actually played a game of Street Fighter Monopoly with my girlfriend. And she seems to really take like pride in winning games that are based on luck. Yeah, I know it.
Starting point is 00:37:19 Like I don't know. It's the illusion of control. It's the illusion of like I'm good at this game. But I'm like this fucking, why would Dalston charge me $500 to train with him? And she's like no, that's rules of the game. I'm like fuck this game. He's not materialistic. And I think you've seen it but it's got the worst like the art on the box.
Starting point is 00:37:43 Oh yeah. It's on the main thing. It's specifically the Street Fighter HD Remix art. Yeah. Of like the Udon we had no time. Well that is Capcom's new face of Street Fighter 2. So suck it. Choke on it.
Starting point is 00:37:59 Man. Little much. Remember when the new face of Street Fighter 2 was Turbo Revival? No? Yeah. No way. Eddie Yon or whatever is the name of the artist. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:38:10 And he worked on Alpha 2 and then just for Street Fighter Turbo Rival. That's it. This is the art style for Street Fighter 2. That was so sick. Anyway. Glad that happened. Yep. What a revival.
Starting point is 00:38:21 Thanks for killing Street Fighter. So guys, shall we? Let's do it. This is uh... It's ladder time. It's gonna be early. I don't know how to Christmas-ify it. Come on.
Starting point is 00:38:31 Christmas-ify it. It's ladder time. Come on. Come on. I don't know. It's ladder time. Ladder time. Ladder time.
Starting point is 00:38:39 No, that's just go to sleep long. That's just go to sleep long. That's just go to sleep long. That's the wrong one entirely. I'll have a mail. You can send it too. Super best friendcast at gmail.com. Nice.
Starting point is 00:38:54 Not bad. Not bad. I was gonna say it's beginning to feel a lot like ladder time. That's the best one so far. Why did we wait so long to do that? We already finished it today. That email again is superbestfriendcastatgmail.com. Nice.
Starting point is 00:39:10 And if you do send us a Christmas letter, it might- It'll be too late. Yes. Because Christmas is now, fucker. Check your calendar. Wait for K. Wait for episode 72. If you sell us a generic holiday email, however, that might not be too late.
Starting point is 00:39:30 It might still be applicable by the time we get this. New Year's is a holiday. So the first letter comes to us from Colin to my dearest Zybatsu. Oh, we're the dearest of all the Zybatsus. Yeah. The other one that exists, which is fictional. We're also fictional. I was wondering what your favorite Christmas movie is since-
Starting point is 00:39:51 Oh, fuck. It's The Season In Junk. Do I even need to give my answer? There's a weird- He gives an answer here and I completely agree with it. What is it? Well, my answer and his that he gives here, Tokyo Godfathers. Yes, thank you.
Starting point is 00:40:04 Tokyo Godfathers is the fucking best. There's no other answer. Okay, what was it? I'm not even familiar with that. What was it five years ago? Tokyo Godfathers came out in like 2000 and like three? It did not. The 2007.
Starting point is 00:40:16 It's not that new. It's that new. For me, before Tokyo Godfathers, because it is that new. The Nightmare Before Christmas. Okay. I love The Nightmare Before Christmas. And I have a terrible soft spot for Home Alone and Jingle All the Way. Well, you and all the hot topic people love Nightmare Before Christmas.
Starting point is 00:40:34 It's a great movie. Oh, it was never out. Tokyo Godfathers is a 2003 film. Shit. Both me and Liam. Directed by Japanese director Satoshi Kan. What is it? Well, if I had the-
Starting point is 00:40:47 All the dicks. If I had the laptop over here, I could edit Wikipedia too. Dine on a doll. What is it? It's an awesome, awesome Christmas movie by Satoshi Kan. Oh. It's an actual Christmas movie. No, it's an anime.
Starting point is 00:40:59 It's an anime. Oh. But it's like realistic. And it's about three hobos that find a better- Well, then it should be Karris then. A very Karris Christmas. That's my favorite Christmas anime. You know what?
Starting point is 00:41:11 You're- A total aside- That's not my answer though. The other night, I watched Power Rangers Megaforce Mega Knight Learns the Spirit of Christmas episode. Boy, was that shit. It was great. It's on Netflix.
Starting point is 00:41:25 There's like five special Power Rangers episodes. And they're like American Mead. They're bad. We were all familiar with the Star Wars Christmas special. The Ninja Turtles Christmas special. Yeah. Just every cartoon we probably grew up with had a Christmas- How about you, man?
Starting point is 00:41:42 Yeah, what was your favorite? It's kind of a- It's not really a tie, but it's kind of just- I'm not going to give them both, but both Home Alone 1 and 2. Yeah. That's just because, like, it's not so much that it's Christmas. Like, yeah, you learn Christmas whenever it's cheer, and I love you, Mom, at the end. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:41:57 But it's mostly because they're hilarious to me, and I think they're still funny. But I guess it's just because, you know, there's creepy parts, Rudolph the Red Nose, Reindeer, Stop Motion, movie, you know, like Abominable Snowman, Super Creeps, but fuck that guy. I'm going to give out two answers here. One's the classic, and one's my favorite Christmas movie. That's the question. One's the best Christmas movie, and one's my favorite.
Starting point is 00:42:18 The best is A Wonderful Life. Sure. Yeah. I don't know if any of you have actually seen it. I'm willing to accept it. It's old as fuck, but it's great. But the best Christmas- my favorite, by far, and I know some of you are going to get all my shit and say it's not a Christmas movie-
Starting point is 00:42:32 Probably not. Is Die Hard. It is, though. Die Hard is a Christmas movie. Yeah. And it is amazing. And for a raw Christmas time, you often find yourself going, man, I kind of want to watch Die Hard right now.
Starting point is 00:42:46 Well, we didn't go to that thing. They were replaying Die Hard at the theater down there. I went to that thing. Because Patch and the Christmas spirit. I like how none of us are going to say, like, a miracle on 34th Street. Well, I said A Wonderful Life. A Wonderful Life is a wonderful life. A Wonderful Life is a wonderful life.
Starting point is 00:43:00 A miracle on 34th Street sucks. I don't like this. Especially that shitty remake. If you like it, come at me, because I'll fight you. Because there was a shitty remake as well. Yeah, the shitty remake's really shitty. With a little girl and the old guy. The ending is the only good part about miracle on 34th Street.
Starting point is 00:43:15 That, and he tells the kid to go to Macy's to buy skates instead of the store he's working at. And no one says Tim Allen in Santa Claus. No, no one says no. No, that's weird. Jingle all the way. Nothing with Tim Allen. He said jingle all the way. I said jingle all the way.
Starting point is 00:43:31 All the rebel mention? Jingle all the way. Bad Santa. Bad Santa. Oh, yeah. Yeah. I heard a lot of good things about Bad Santa. Seeing that kid cut his hand making the wooden pickle.
Starting point is 00:43:43 Oh, I feel like I gotta watch that now. It really warms the cockles of my heart. Merry Christmas, you filthy animal. And a happy new year. And a happy new year. Johnny says, hey guys. Is it Johnny Sasaki? Is it Johnny Bravo?
Starting point is 00:43:58 No. Johnny, last time I can't say. Oh. We don't do that to our listeners. Oh, last time Bravo? No. Is it Sasaki though? Hey guys.
Starting point is 00:44:07 For real. Happy Monday or Merry Christmas in case you don't want to break an illusion. Or even happy holidays in case you're weird and get offended by simple gestures of goodwill. You picked these emails. Yeah. What's the question? Just wanted to ask if you've gotten a gift from your youth that you still have in charge to this day. No, my mom sold it.
Starting point is 00:44:30 Wow. That's dark. My Game Boy Micro. Okay. Okay. Sure. My Nerf gun that I told you about, the Warhawk. I still have that in my toy box.
Starting point is 00:44:44 I remember when I was moving into my new place. You guys remarked with amazement at how many of the old aliens and Exo Squad figurines I still have. Some of them were. Yeah. It almost total mint condition. Almost. They're dusty. Yep.
Starting point is 00:45:02 And I can go drag out some Ninja Turtles. And those Exo Squad toys were fucking awesome. They were so amazing. They had the warning on them not to point them at your eyes because the missile spring would wreck your shit. They were so strong. Guess what you did right after that? You put them straight in your eyes. You will find your little cousin and you fucking, yeah.
Starting point is 00:45:20 You hold him down. I don't know how much of a babby I was, but my grandma knit me a blanket and I still have it. It's got reindeer on it. It's a very nice blanket. That's the warmest of them all. It's really nice. And I have a cabbage patch kid that I think was from when I was born Christmas. Like I'm zero years old Christmas, that kind of Christmas.
Starting point is 00:45:41 I wish I still had it. I wish I still had the slippers my dad's ex-wife knit me. I can lend them to you. But they fell apart. They were the most comfy, perfect slippers ever. Sure. But because they were hand-knit by a human instead of a robot, they eventually just died. It might not technically be a Christmas gift because it was right after Christmas.
Starting point is 00:46:01 A neighbor took me and like other kids to Toys R Us. And that's where I got, you can't see it from here, but it's like the older looking Godzilla. That's like really old looking. It looks like it's from the 80s because he is. And he has weird lipstick. I don't know why, but the toy has weird red lipstick around its lips. And I went, why'd they do that? They took like a big Sharpie and the Godzilla doesn't have fucking lipstick.
Starting point is 00:46:27 And I know I talk about him awful lot, but one of the things why I like angry video game nerds so much is because he has the exact same figure in one of his videos. And I went, oh, you're my favorite, James. Kindred spirits. Yeah. Jesus. That's cute. Sure.
Starting point is 00:46:43 Yeah, no, man. Like I just, I have a toy box that I just never got rid of. Don't be off. Don't be off. It's there. Like a good chunk percentage. At some point mom comes to you and says, hey, we're going to do the charity thing. We're going to do the garage sale thing.
Starting point is 00:46:56 It's like, give me a box of the toys you don't give a fuck about. And I gave all the Ninja Turtles back and all the GI Joes. Worth a lot of money. But those exo-squads and alien figures, no way, man. So you never play with them. I don't care. I don't care. And you shoot them in their eyes.
Starting point is 00:47:13 You can put the gorilla blue alien under water and squeeze his head. And he takes water. And he fills up with water. And you squirt. And then you squirt. I know. I had to do it. You're so cool.
Starting point is 00:47:25 Yes. In a sense, why is he gorilla, but his power is to squirt water. Shut up. Shut up. I had to. No. No. The scorpion alien would do it.
Starting point is 00:47:34 You would press a button and it would fall apart. Because you had to have the hicks that would shoot the missile at him. Yeah. I had the queen alien, which had the tail whip. The tail whip, actually. Oh, man. You could pull the tail up. I remember.
Starting point is 00:47:44 Actually, I still have the alien. I remember. I had like one of the most awkward moments of my life where I got the hicks aliens toy when I was like seven. Yeah. Yeah. And you would take the stickers out and you'd put them on. And one of the stickers was hardcore.
Starting point is 00:47:57 Yes. And I didn't know what the fuck that meant. So I asked my mom and she said, that's when. That's when you care about resolution too much. That's when that's in those movies where people do it. That's what that means. Wow. And then I was confused for years as to why the hicks would put that on the side of the
Starting point is 00:48:22 drone. To do anything. Yeah. No, man. It's technically inaccurate. It is. And then hardcore is in hardcore violence or hardcore, whatever. Oh, god.
Starting point is 00:48:32 And the bull alien. Apparently my mom only knew it in the context of pornography. Shocking. Okay. The bull alien had the horns and you could ram its head out. Totally. It was awesome. It was the best.
Starting point is 00:48:43 The arm that would, the slingshot arm that would throw grenades. I didn't have a ball. I had these awesome Terminator 2 action figures which would have fake, like a fake gun. Yeah. And I had the ARMY. And you press a button and then it falls off. And there's just a bad looking endoskeleton. And I had the ARMY where you'd replace this arm with different like gunfights.
Starting point is 00:49:03 Different like gun arms. Yeah. Or those were awesome. Super legit. Toys or shit though. They are. We were just there looking at them the other day. I know.
Starting point is 00:49:11 The action figures suck nowadays. Yeah. Because they look more like toys. The only toys you can get that are good now, you have to buy off the internet. There was one Christmas. It must have been like a couple years ago because they're probably old by now. But I remember walking through the Isles of Toys R Us ones and seeing Star Wars unleashed. Not Force Unleashed stuff.
Starting point is 00:49:29 You know those big ones. They were like, they looked like resin kits and all the Force electricity or lightsaber trails were really intercooled. Those are cool. I got that for us. I was like, I would fucking, well lose my shit if I were a kid again. But had we been kids and Pacific Rim had come out in the 90s? Oh my god.
Starting point is 00:49:45 Like everyone would have Pacific Rim action figures. I mean instead of robots. Robot jocks. Yeah. What happened to that? Sure. But you look at it now and who has Pacific Rim toys? Us.
Starting point is 00:49:54 Us. Like they only make them. Like Nekka makes them. Nekka doesn't make toys. They make collectibles. That don't have great joints. Nekka. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:50:07 But anyway. I'm not going to disagree with you. I wish we had good action figures nowadays. Jesse wants to know, long time listener, first time caller. There's no call though. In the spirit of the festive season, what is your favorite Christmas game or Christmas themed level? In the game.
Starting point is 00:50:24 Wow. I'm going to say. Lights into dreams, obviously. More specifically Christmas nights. I fuck nights. I'm going to say when you set your dream cast to December 25th and turn on the main screen, it snows on the HUD. That's tough because there are so few actual Christmas levels for games.
Starting point is 00:50:47 Like there's a lot of winter ones. Yeah. If we could do that, I'd just say ice caps. I was always really fond of Animal Crossing in winter. Yeah. There's a lot you could do with the snowman and the igloos would crop up and stuff. I was really fond of that. I'll say that too because I like playing Animal Crossing on the GameCube.
Starting point is 00:51:03 Sure. It was such a nice surprise when I turned on my dream cast that one day. Oh look. They actually did. Oh shit. You know what my dream cast? You're the inspiration in The Beat Angels. Oh man.
Starting point is 00:51:16 Yeah. Oh I can't believe I didn't remember that one. Yeah. That's not even the one I cry the most at in EBA. It turns the ones up in Jack Flash. Tears pouring down your face. No, no. Keep guessing.
Starting point is 00:51:28 It's one of the bonus songs. I don't know. ABC. Did you not beat it? I beat it. It's ABC. It's ABC. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:51:36 There you go. I fucking cried that shit. Why? Because all the little baby and the cat think about, what they dream about is playing with each other and having fun. I love the sad songs in the Wendong game. You have a cat that's gonna play with it. And this was way before that.
Starting point is 00:51:50 I can't remember what it's called but the sad song in a Wendong 2 that was skating themed, that one made me tear up. That curry that even sounds sad. That was the saddest one. Sadder than you're the inspiration. Yeah, but then you can just go back and play Ready, Steady, Go. Yeah. And then you get all pumped up.
Starting point is 00:52:04 Yeah. Fuck the first one. You can't skip cutscenes. Ready, Steady, Go is bullshit because of that. Oh, but it was such a good song. But you had to wait for two minutes to get to it every time. But I was watching Full Metal Alchemist, so I didn't care. Yeah, it's true.
Starting point is 00:52:15 But Wendong 2 has better songs in Ready, Steady, Go. I'm not sure which ones, but I'm pretty sure Yakuza 1 and 2 take place at Christmas. Yeah. Like during Christmas. So those games are awesome. The first Project Diva has a Christmas song. It's one of the hardest songs. Yirweaboo things, Lamer than Maiweaboo things.
Starting point is 00:52:35 No, sorry. Yirweaboo thing made by Sega is Lamer than Maiweaboo thing made by Sega. Yeah. Well, Sega is great at Christmas stuff, it seems. That's weird. That is weird. I always had good PSO events for that. Half of all of these are about Sega games.
Starting point is 00:52:53 Yeah. That's bizarre. Kudos to Sega and Christmas. Yes, I guess. Throwing it down. Enough of that Christmas shit. Let's get back into the real garbage. Let's get back to mongo.
Starting point is 00:53:03 Here comes questions. Griffin asks, would you guys consider Ryu to be casting his fireball? Oh my god, like fireballs. What's this person's name? Griffin. Griffin? Griffin? When was the sent?
Starting point is 00:53:20 Would you consider? When was the sent? 20 hours ago. Okay, this motherfucker took this exact question from last week's bomb cast. Are you serious? Yeah. Oh. Is he casting it?
Starting point is 00:53:34 Is he a wizard? Is it a magic spell? This would settle an argument. Thank you. Bullshit. Man. Don't reuse questions you hear elsewhere. I got all fucking, I got duped.
Starting point is 00:53:45 Cause it was a fighting game thing. No, but I have an answer for that. Oh, of course. We will answer this off podcast. He's not a wizard. It's internal energy. We will not know. We will answer it this one time.
Starting point is 00:53:56 But if that happens again, fucking Sakura can do it. I listened to the podcast guys. I know. My answer is, I don't know what they said, but my answer is simply, if your source of power is key, if it's not an elemental thing or any sort of like studied hence is required. Exactly. You just have to work your key up, then it is not magic. He is not casting something, he is letting something inciting of himself come out.
Starting point is 00:54:32 Exactly. Yeah. A mage or a wizard or something does things and uses the outside world to do it. So Bison is a wizard. Oh, totally. Yeah. By that. Techno wizard.
Starting point is 00:54:46 Yeah. Technically. And there's actually a book called All of Us Street Fighter that's considered the Bible. Didn't you write that one? Yeah. Yeah. And we started just on Street Fighter Religion. And there's a giant FAQ on Game Facts written by Tiamat.
Starting point is 00:55:02 It's Tiamat's story guide. Right. I know that one. I read that one. It's the ultimate because... That's what got me through the first testing job I had. Right. They used to talk about it a whole bunch too.
Starting point is 00:55:13 Because basically Udon actually would refer to this when they were writing their Street Fighter stories as well. Yeah. That's how fucking legit this thing was. Basically it was a bunch of information compiled from MOOCs released in Japan and strategy guides and stuff. And strategy guides and stuff. But the major source was all about Street Fighter.
Starting point is 00:55:27 Street Fighter. This thick, amazing book. And yeah, one of the things they described was the feeling that you get from getting hit by everyone's projectile. Right. And so getting hit by Sakura's projectile felt like a cool, refreshing blast. You know? Or getting hit with a Hadoken feels like hot, warmth, but not fiery.
Starting point is 00:55:50 It feels more like a punch. It's like Cyclops then. Yeah. Yes. Okay. Cool. It is not... It's like a physical blast.
Starting point is 00:55:58 It's a concussive force. Exactly. A quote unquote fireball in Street Fighter, unless it's Ken or Rai's red one. Or Dalsim. They are not fireballs. They are actually closer to like water balls. Except for Dalsim. Dalsim is shooting actual fire.
Starting point is 00:56:11 Who would kill Hakan in a second? Totally. Yes. He's fire breathing. But that's why there's a difference in Street Fighter between MOOCs that are quote unquote fireballs. Yeah. That hit you and MOOCs like Ryu, Ken, and Akuma's red fireballs and Dalsim's fire blasts
Starting point is 00:56:26 that set the character on fire. Yeah. Exactly. There's totally different. So no, they're not casting spells. They just get hit by our tire shots. Oh, god. Bison is infusing himself with power.
Starting point is 00:56:38 But he's not. With his psycho power. So Bison using the psycho drive is casting a techno spell. But when he shoots a psycho bubble or something. What a nerd. That is not a spell. I agree. No, I agree.
Starting point is 00:56:52 Don't send in duplicate questions. Never do this again. Unless we don't know. Yeah. In which case we'll read it. Yeah. I'm not sure if you're going to see it. Only check us.
Starting point is 00:57:03 Andy asks, hey, Zibatsu. What's a game or TV series that comes to mind for you where you thought the side character was way more interesting than the main character? Oh. There's a lot. Oh. This is all media basically. Basically.
Starting point is 00:57:22 Yeah. It's like TV shows or games? Yeah. But pick a good example that sticks out to you. I have one. Well, he actually says a few things. He's like, oh, like Garrus and Tally over Commander Shepard or something like that. But I'm like, no.
Starting point is 00:57:36 Okay. Everyone over Shepard. For me, I would say Seth in Lost Odyssey is a really good character. He's more interesting than kind. Way more interesting than kind. I got one that I'm really confident in. Final Fantasy XII. Where are you?
Starting point is 00:57:52 He's so right. You're so right. Everyone is infinitely more interesting than the main character. Even fucking, even Rex is way more interesting than Boss and Pinello. Sorry, not Vaughn and Pinello. Not Boss and Pinello. Boss is sick. Vaughn and Pinello were added in by like a corporate focus group to the point where
Starting point is 00:58:11 like that awesome statue that everyone wants to own is... It's Boss and Friend. Yeah. And it has nothing to do with the actual main character. Yeah. Oh, terrible. Exactly. You guys?
Starting point is 00:58:23 I can't think of one that is very... Yeah. I can't think of anything off the top of my head. Team Dark Souls. Oh. Artorias. Yeah, you know what? I want to play as Artorias.
Starting point is 00:58:32 Well, because Dark Souls, the main character isn't your character. No, he's just a generic guy. So it's kind of weird. Yeah. But like if that's just us saying, man, you know who's awesome, the NPC is a Dark Souls. We can't count characters who are just like generic. But Solaire should get a spin-off game. Solaire should.
Starting point is 00:58:47 Yeah, absolutely. At the time. For iOS. I was like, man, it would be really cool if they took this cool cyborg Raiden and gave him his own. How sick would it be if Zero got his own game? I was about to say Zero. And Zero did get his own game.
Starting point is 00:59:07 And it's just business management. Yeah. And Mega Man and Zero were the same thing that happened in Final Fantasy where Zero was supposed to be Mega Man and they said no. It has to be Mega Man. Okay, fine. Well, the deal was Mega Man originally was going to be red. Right.
Starting point is 00:59:24 Because the hair was usually red in Japan. Exactly. Yeah, but the NES had more shades of blue than red. Oh, wow, really? Yes. And so when they picked Mega Man as blue because you could show off the more they were blue and see more of a character than this big red thing that would have looked terrible. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:59:42 Damn. And Zero was originally the pitch then for X because it was like, yeah, let's make that happen. It's got the hair. And then it was like, no, but then it's not Mega Man, you know. It has to be Rock Man. It has to be the same guy. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:59:57 And then it's like, well, I'm just going to make this character a billion times cooler. Okay. Okay, whatever guy who doesn't know what he's doing. I hope we don't wind up firing you. And everyone you ever inspired to work here. Inafune did an AMA on Reddit the other day. And like there's one of these things where it's like the Agile argument is what is Mega Man X his name?
Starting point is 01:00:21 Or is it just X? I assumed it was just X. Confirmed. Super legit. It's just. You just call it Mega Man X. Can I ask where anyone got the impression that it was Mega Man X? Because the game says Mega Man X.
Starting point is 01:00:34 The box cover. But even though in the game they call him X. I was going to say, but in the game they call him X. Like completely invalidating that. It's one of those weird arguments that no one can figure out why it's gone on for so long. Yeah. But Matt, why would you say America all the time if you weren't like, I don't know.
Starting point is 01:00:49 Why would you? That's confusing. Half of his genome. Yeah. Melvin says, hey guys, I was just curious. What was your first anime that you could remember? The very first. I know.
Starting point is 01:01:04 That made an impression on you. And I think I might have told all of you this at one point. But it's like that's a hell of an anime to start with. Okay. If you say Fatal Fury you're like lying. No. Okay. What's what is it?
Starting point is 01:01:16 Ninja scroll. There's titties in there. The first thing? The first one where I'm like, I am buying this thing called Japanimation. Right. It's from Japan. I had seen Sailor Moon and Rodin Warriors, but that was like, this is a weird looking cartoon.
Starting point is 01:01:32 Okay. Okay. But I meet my sister through the video, so I was like, what do you want to read? I'm like, why don't you want to read this cool thing about ninjas? I seen it in the back of my EGM. Okay. Right? And we watch it and then the rock guy starts doing stuff.
Starting point is 01:01:45 Yeah. And he's like, turn this off. And I'm like, okay. And I just went down at midnight. And you watched it and it was super sick. Nice. Oh yeah. Ninja scroll.
Starting point is 01:01:56 The first time, like at the end of that, don't you just think about like how he stuck underwater forever in case in gold? Lord Genma. Oh yeah. Lord Genma. It's the worst death ever. Yeah. And he's not dead.
Starting point is 01:02:10 Well, actually, well, it's not the worst. JoJo's properly. JoJo too. Oh, cars. All cars gets the worst death ever. Cars gets the worst death ever, but like Genma's second. And eventually he stopped thinking. No, eventually these cells that cause like things to occur, bad guy loses.
Starting point is 01:02:28 Stop thinking. Yeah. Like you're so immobile. Cars gets fucked up at the end of JoJo too. So bad. Spoiler. It's 20 years old. I'm just kidding.
Starting point is 01:02:40 I don't know. Like because like Matt said, it's like we all watched, you know, we all saw Sailor Moon and whatever Dragon Ball. I definitely remember the exact order of all that. The one that really left an impression on me was card captors. Of course. Because that one, but that one's distinctly different from all the other ones you see as a kid where it's like Pokemon and stuff where it's just whatever.
Starting point is 01:02:57 And card captors was like, oh, there's something else to look at. Oh, it's like you're not trying to sell me a toy. Yeah. Totally. Yes, you are. And the first one that really struck me is like, oh, this is really like super serious was probably actually spirited away. Okay.
Starting point is 01:03:11 Okay. That's a good one. That's a good one. Yeah. Like I didn't have like... And by good one, I mean fucking amazing one. Exactly. Like I didn't have movie stores or anything nearby.
Starting point is 01:03:19 So I saw what little I got to see and you know, Digimon Tamers I really liked as well. Yeah. Because it was kind of beyond the first like Digimon like wave. They did the cool head motions with the Digimon. With the cards. Yeah. It was cool. It was fucking garbage.
Starting point is 01:03:37 Okay. Okay. Okay. Digimon. No. No, I totally agree. But their max evolutions got way cooler than that. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:03:47 But they're still ridiculous. Well, it's like take a dinosaur strap shit on it. Oh, yeah. Sure. But I don't know. There's a part I mean like they also like they started warping in like Norse mythology. Yeah. Like Dressil and all that shit.
Starting point is 01:04:01 I might be hard to set like in like early on in high school, there's a guy that's like oh, it's fucking me. Yeah. Exactly. Yeah. Fuck you Ted. I still like Digimon though. Okay.
Starting point is 01:04:14 I mean, I think it's cool what they do with it now. Same here, right? We saw it like different like anime but didn't really know what it was. And I was going to say like the one of the first ones that struck a chord with me was when Trigun. That was late. That was high school. Would you shut your goddamn mouth about Trigun?
Starting point is 01:04:28 He said it. I know. But I'm preemptively stopping here. Shut up. No, you're never going to call what the first one I watched was. But the thing that I remember that like I really started going like whoa. Can you give us a hint and I'll try to guess? I'm just on the first thing.
Starting point is 01:04:42 The first thing is just Ronin Warriors, right? Ronin Warriors was like. Did you know it was like a different thing? That's when I was starting to understand, okay, hold on. Japanimation, right? Yeah. Man, that term sucks. I know.
Starting point is 01:04:57 I remember the Japanimation section at the video store. We watched it so hard that we remember it. The trailer for Worst in the Shell went like the Japanimation hit of the century. Or whatever. It said something like that. You know what? Fuck it. We're bringing it back.
Starting point is 01:05:13 We're reclaiming Japanimation. It's so much better than that. Out with anime, in with Japanimation. Manga entertainment. Manga means animated movie. Fuck you, Manga. Do you know what Katana means? It's Japanese art.
Starting point is 01:05:28 No. But then I remember the absolute first anime I ever watched. I saw it in Grenada. You will never guess it. It's too obscure. It's too obscure. And me guys too. I'll give you a giant hint.
Starting point is 01:05:42 The main character has big bright green hair. And red body armor parts. This explains everything. He looks almost like a Japanese captain. I don't know. It could be a lot of things. Bucky-o hair? Exactly.
Starting point is 01:05:55 You'd never know him. It was something called lock the super power. Sliver. Sliver. Lock the superman. Yeah, you sure called him. Yeah, I knew it. Are you sure it's not Grenada-Mation?
Starting point is 01:06:07 No. Okay. No. Oh, that's awesome. It's the dude that walks outside your window with the machete. He's a hero. He goes home and he draws Grenada-Mation. It's like the least country ever without Grenada-Mation.
Starting point is 01:06:27 If anyone's listening to this from Grenada and I don't know why you would believe me, I'm sorry. Lock the super power. It was basically the first Super Saiyan. It was this guy that could just do anything and solve any problem and he was omnipotent. And the whole plot was just about everyone trying to go like, what the fuck? Where is he and why does he solve all our problems? And he's like, because I don't want to hear the super power or lock the superman.
Starting point is 01:06:55 There's a really bad one. I just want to quickly say, because I think I've told you that Willie, this to you at least once, is that there was something I rented called Red Hawk. It's a really like by the numbers, oh, there's bad guys. Very Hoku no Ken. And he has a fight with a guy where the animation sales are lifted completely from the opening fight of Street Fighter, the animated movie Ryu versus Sagat. Like the same fight.
Starting point is 01:07:21 Like traced over. Like traced over. And up those shots of Sagat running. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then like Ryu doing like a hurricane kick and then it's like going. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's like so bad that when I saw Red Hawk, I'm like, I went like 10 years ago. What's this?
Starting point is 01:07:38 Yeah, yeah, yeah. I should show it to you sometimes. Like there's those side by side screenshots of moments in Naruto where they ripped off cowboy people. Oh man, that's gross. And it's like, hey, no guys, it's homage. It's homage. That's bullshit.
Starting point is 01:07:53 No, fuck you. Like it was a minute long scene almost. Yeah. And like exactly this entire nagey sequence is just Spike beating up the dude on the train. Like get the fuck out of here. That's bullshit. I hate it. Man, I got.
Starting point is 01:08:06 And he spat his katam no jutsu onto the floor. And where I actually saw it, I'm kind of amazed how lucky I was to get something so good. That's like a ground floor. The very first anime I ever saw, I saw on Fox Buffalo. Nice. Over the antenna. Oh, geez. And it was Tech-A-Man Blade.
Starting point is 01:08:26 That's sick. That's a good one. Oh, that's nice. They aired the whole thing in sequence. They didn't do the thing that most places did where they get a goddamn anime. There's a hundred episodes that fucking aired totally out of sequence. No. They got for episode one was slayed to the fucking fight with Gunner to the fucking end fight.
Starting point is 01:08:46 It's so awesome. And I didn't know it was from Japan. No. How could you? I was like, I don't know. I'm Fox Rochester or whatever. And I was like, this is, why is this so much cooler? Why are they cutting spider crabs in half?
Starting point is 01:09:00 Dudes are getting killed. They're just fucking ragged. And then afterwards, like a year or two afterwards, I saw Samurai Pizza Cats and Sailor Moon and all that shit. And nothing grabbed me until Dragon Ball came out. Right. And then it was like, okay, no way. And that's what I knew was from Japan.
Starting point is 01:09:17 And it was just like, okay, there's something here. There's something here. Did you guys... I feel something. Did you not catch Akira or Ghost of the Shell? I saw Ghost of the Shell. I saw pretty early. I saw Akira for the first time like four years ago.
Starting point is 01:09:30 Oh, yeah. I have never seen Ghost of the Shell. Oh man. I can loan it to you. I'll loan it to you for beyond. Did you see my balls? That's the wrong one. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:09:43 I have. I have all of Ghost of the Shell available to watch. One button rests away. And then you can put all of it. And yet, like, just never get around. The thing with Ghost of the Shell is that since it's like, we're not one of the first, one of like the kind of, you know, benchmark things, that now it's kind of pedestrian. No.
Starting point is 01:10:08 No. It holds up. I'm not saying it doesn't hold up. We've seen similar things before. But it holds up. So it doesn't have the same impact. It's watched it now. And you, as a former psych guy, really would appreciate the sequel.
Starting point is 01:10:24 Probably. Innocence. Innocence is really good. All I want to say to add to the final of the thing. Oh, I watched all of that. But the only things I ever saw in full throughout the entirety of my youth up until before I got to college, because getting anime, like, all under their hands on it, the only thing I saw in full was Technoman, then Dragonfall, then Evangelion, like six months after its release
Starting point is 01:10:54 when I was like 11. That's cool. No wonder. Good timing. Which, which, just, explains a lot. No, fucking explains a lot. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:11:03 Because back when you had to get it on VHS tapes from your friends. You know who'd be a great casting role for a live action Evangelion movie? No one. Aubrey Plaza as Oscar. Give her red hair and you're done. Are you out of your mind? I'm a little out of my mind. She was the worst cast ever.
Starting point is 01:11:18 She was the worst cast ever. No. Ray's not a bitch. Ray's not a bitch. She's a creepy girl. She's a neutral. I can't believe how badly you fucked. Like, that's the worst, like, mm, like.
Starting point is 01:11:29 I've, I've never watched a ton of Evangelion. Like, sure you would all watch as like Tim Allen as Gendo. No, but you just said Leonardo was a party. Oh. You just said Leonardo. No, Richard Karnas Gendo. You just said Leonardo was a party dude. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:11:43 Like, yeah. I'm basing this on some guys. I'm basing this based on some guy saying Ray's a bitch. Oh, someone posted a thing that reminded me. Remember how we were talking about casting Last of Us? Yeah. Yeah. Who?
Starting point is 01:12:02 One of the great fucking Joles that there could be. Jamie Lannister. Yeah, sure. Yeah, sure. Completely overlooked. Scruff him the fuck up. He's already scruffed up. Oh, okay.
Starting point is 01:12:12 Oh, it's not going good. I've never watched past season one. Okay, season two, he gets scruffed. Okay, good. He gets a beard and then he just turns into Joles. Okay, good. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Do it.
Starting point is 01:12:23 Scruff him up. Scruffing. What's really sad about him is I just saw a trailer of some horrible romantic comedy he's in where he's cheating on Cameron Diaz and he's also cheating on Cameron Diaz with the wife, the other wife and 40-year-old Virgin and he's also cheating on another girl. So all three plucky girls meet each other to get back at Jamie. Yeah. I feel like I've seen that movie before.
Starting point is 01:12:51 You probably have. I feel like I've seen an X-rated version of that movie. Does the poster have them all back to back like, oh you and oh you? Is this just a shitty remake of The Stepford Wives? It sounds like it, doesn't it? Does that matter? No. Dennis Mack says, I'm curious if you guys are fans of playing co-op games and which
Starting point is 01:13:12 ones you like. No. No, indeed. Yeah, okay. So that's, yeah, sure. Co-op games for babies who can't do it themselves. Love the shit out of co-op games. I'm so sad that they're dying out slash day.
Starting point is 01:13:24 I got a co-op game for you. Rewards cooperation. I was just going to say, it's the only co-op games I'll play. So back in the day there was, you could walk into a video store and pick up a number of two player ones. Oh, absolutely. It was the ultimate solution to you and your brother both want to rent a game. And that's how we'd find out what the fuck Doom Troopers was.
Starting point is 01:13:47 Sure. Because why else would you rent Doom Troopers? A co-op game on the NES and a little about that. A little something. Of course. Snow Brothers. Like Capcom. Snow Bros.
Starting point is 01:13:57 Yeah, totally. Two games recently that I had a lot of fun playing through co-op because co-op makes a game about 20 times more fun. Yeah. We know this for factual reasons. This is how it's re-yes. And if you don't like co-op, there's something wrong with your brain. Yeah, 50 cent blood on this end.
Starting point is 01:14:12 And we love co-op. Terminator Salvation. I had a lot of fun playing through those with a friend. No, fuck this. I go against what I just said. Oh, Willy's changing. He's moving the goal. I see him moving goalposts right now.
Starting point is 01:14:24 Oh, he tested it. B, it's awful. Okay. But I played it right. Hey, I thought there was something wrong with your brain. So the first thing you said was... Why are you moving goalposts like that? The first thing you said was...
Starting point is 01:14:34 50 cent blood on the send. Great. Right? Totally fine than everyone else. Okay. The second thing you said was... Salvation. Made by...
Starting point is 01:14:43 The guys who made Bionic Commando. Great. Who made your cherished Bionic Commando. Yes. And who also made the awful wanted game. Sure, but why are you moving goalposts like this? Because it's a terrible game. It's not good.
Starting point is 01:14:55 Oh, now it's not okay. No, there must be something wrong with your brain. It's terrible in any mode you play it in. The question is asking... Willy, it's okay. What's wrong with your brain? Good co-op games. Soul Sacrifice, hunting games.
Starting point is 01:15:08 Sure. Soul Sacrifice. Recently had a lot of fun with these. Yeah. What's that one I keep forgetting? God get it. God get it. It was great fun.
Starting point is 01:15:16 Here's a war one and co-op was fun. I played it through with friends. You know, Here's a war two was not for some reason. Three was, but two was not. Can I just point out that even though we're super used to it and jaded on it a little bit by now... A little jaded. It wasn't that long a little bit really.
Starting point is 01:15:30 A little bit. Just a little bit jaded. Yeah. Yeah. It wasn't that long ago. And you're literally green in your face. Bad. Mario introduced two of you running on us at the same screen at the same time.
Starting point is 01:15:43 Yeah. I mean like... And then you run into each other all the fucking time. It was always turn based. It was always turn based. No. The first time they introduced... The first Mario game.
Starting point is 01:15:51 No. That was turn based. No. The first... No. No. No. No.
Starting point is 01:15:59 No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No.
Starting point is 01:16:08 I bought them. On the Wii. No. No. The portable. The first one didn't have it. The DS2. You're high.
Starting point is 01:16:16 It didn't have it. You had the co-op battle modes. Your joints. Yes. And you could play together going through. No. No. No.
Starting point is 01:16:24 The regular stages. No. We were just playing on the Wii. No. No. There were battle stages but you would be going through the entire map. No. You're making goal posts now.
Starting point is 01:16:32 I guarantee each other at Arcadia where we were trapped and when you go through the left side of the screen you come out the right. Yes. That's what I'm speaking of. But that was not. That was not co-op. That's not co-op going through a regular stage. That was all you do.
Starting point is 01:16:45 It was battle mode. You're. Okay. Okay. All right. Everyone is telling you your memory is fucked up. The Wii version was the first one. So it was the Wii one.
Starting point is 01:16:54 Okay. I bought that at midnight. And everyone liked it for four levels. Yeah. And then went oh fuck this is the worst way to play this. My roommate and I played through half the game in a sitting and then I never played it with him ever again. It's like when we played all the all the Super Mario games that have come out recently that
Starting point is 01:17:10 have had co-op. I played them once in co-op and go this is the worst experience ever. I wish they just would make another game like for single players. Except that 3D world is like the absolute best. It's an improvement. But it's still got the camera shit where it kind of goes in between both of you. I had a lot more fun playing that game by myself than I did with you guys. I had a lot more fun playing it with you guys than I did by myself.
Starting point is 01:17:30 Well that's sad. That's boring. I had the most fun playing it. People super sad. Me playing that game by yourself alone in a dark room. Coolest guy. I find that. I'm fine.
Starting point is 01:17:42 Yeah. You're not high fiving me. You're just holding your hand in the air. I'm sad. It's true. You look at. No. Me playing with one other person was the best.
Starting point is 01:17:51 Yeah. No totally. That's always just two? Yeah sure. It depends. Like in a game like GoldenEye or Monster Hunter or something that thrives on the larger player count. Fine.
Starting point is 01:18:03 Or something that's competitive or asynchronous. Yeah. Like everybody in Monster Hunter is hitting the monster separately more or less. Yeah. And in GoldenEye the more people you can fit in that fucking game the better. Yeah. Right. But for games that like it's it's co-op and you can put four people in here.
Starting point is 01:18:19 Or should you? But no. You should put two. And either way it's sad that co-op games are going away. Of course. It's sad that any mode or anything that you see popular is not popular because something else is popular. Well but here's the thing though.
Starting point is 01:18:33 Co-op games are more popular than ever but it's all online. But they're online. Yeah sure. Yeah. Like because when you lived at your house with your mom and your family and all that and your brother was there and you want to play co-op. Okay. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:18:47 Like a hassle free easiest thing in the world. Yes. But now I'm not going to go to your house to play Mario. No. Fuck that. I'll go to your house to play Mario. Oh thank you man. I have two things to say because real quick like I have to list two.
Starting point is 01:19:01 This is my favorite one because my favorite co-op game is Streets of Rage because it totally holds up in co-op because you can beat all your allies and you get your own special moves for that. Any beat them up game by yourself is fun for one or two times. My number one there would be Kirby Superstar and if you're playing Kirby Superstar co-op you're twice as fun. Well the Kirby games are better in the sense that the Mario games are not because we play the Return of Dreamland where there's no collision on anyone so anyone just goes to
Starting point is 01:19:31 everyone and the camera is a lock 2D camera and it kind of avoids those bars and you get those. And when you do like boss rush mode and it's just the two of you trying to like not suck and die. That actually makes the game way too easy though. Yeah. But still it's fun. Kirby games are not about difficulty.
Starting point is 01:19:45 They're about just having a good time with your buddy. Having a good time. It's about you know sometimes when friends, perhaps best friends, two of them maybe would like to sit down and play a thing. Play a Kirby game. Yeah. That's what it's about. Without co-op games there'd be no best friends playing.
Starting point is 01:20:03 Oh. Fuck the games that made you your career asshole. I'm sorry I can't see them as I step to the top when single player games are. One quick thing. There's a game we all would still be playing if the co-op was local and that would be Anarchy Reigns which had an amazing co-op but they completely dropped the ball by not having local. Watched it.
Starting point is 01:20:25 Remember we wanted to have a tournament. We wanted to have a tournament. We were going to have an Anarchy Reigns tournament. And what would that require? How many consoles do you have? And suddenly an internet connection and we dropped everything because it doesn't work. To be fair they'd have to completely redesign the game or a mode to fit four players on one screen.
Starting point is 01:20:40 You'd have to look like power stuff. No but just two. Just two. What do you do? I'd take two. Split screen two ways. Just two co-op I'd take it. We still need to try that two player mode in Mad World to see if we can do anything with
Starting point is 01:20:50 that. To see if there's anything going on here. Split screen horizontal or vertical? I would assume vertical. I'd choose it. I like it when you can choose it. Yeah. That's good.
Starting point is 01:20:59 That's question. Darius says. Darius. Cool name. This is a question directed at Matt and Pat. During your playthrough of Disaster I think you guys said you hated Machete. Could you please elaborate on this intense hatred? What the fuck?
Starting point is 01:21:14 You hate Machete? Machete was really boring at this point. No, Machete one was like, I don't, I don't recall us saying we hate it but Machete one is. Machete one is the bottom of Machete one. Machete one is still airy. Machete one is still airy finish. Let it finish.
Starting point is 01:21:27 Machete one is still disappointing to what the material is and they spent way too much time talking about the political stuff and when you were promised Grindhouse Slash. Yeah, so that's the problem is that it was a trailer in Grindhouse specifically before Planet Terror and it was nowhere near as stupid as Planet Terror was and it was more like an actual movie and that's not what I wanted. Did either of you see Hobo with a shotgun? Yeah, of course. Which was the good way to do it.
Starting point is 01:21:54 Yeah, absolutely. Sure. But in both of these you have a ridiculous concept, there's going to be some downtime. No, it's not downtime. Remember Planet Terror's downtime? You mean zero? Yeah, remember that? But Machete, like, there's a couple of phone calls but I'm not remembering, like...
Starting point is 01:22:12 There's huge chunks of time where Machete isn't in the movie! Like... And the second one is the worst. There were long stretches where I was just like, I wish you'd killed a guy with his intestines. Yeah. Oh, that's not happening. It's just like, I guess it was too hyped and then didn't deliver.
Starting point is 01:22:32 He flew too high to the sun with Planet Terror and as he came down he made Machete kills. The second one, like, I watched half of it on Netflix and he said, I'm going to go to the bathroom because that's more fun. Yeah, it is. Sometimes. I laughed. I enjoyed Machete.
Starting point is 01:22:50 That was the second one. I didn't see the second one. It was just disappointing. We don't hate it. Okay. I suppose you didn't see Machete. No, I've got a Machete in my dad's place. Nice.
Starting point is 01:23:01 That's it. There we go. Good job, Liam. Keep it irrelevant. Keep it irrelevant. Good cover. Kenan says, character action game Zelda debut, like, it's a question, it's a no. It's not a character action.
Starting point is 01:23:15 It's not a character action. Exactly. Let's finish the question for starters. I didn't hear about this. What is this game? What do you think? Is it a welcome breath of fresh air for the franchise or just a Dynasty Warriors clone? I can't believe we skipped news and still got to this.
Starting point is 01:23:31 Yeah. It was a question. I've been waiting all week to talk about this. Can I just get something out of the way quick because I've been seeing a lot of people on Tumblr and places saying this. On the internet. On the internet. They're saying things.
Starting point is 01:23:41 Saying things. What are they saying? Not looking forward to Hyrule Warriors because Tecmo Koei ruined Other M and it's like no, that was an entirely different team. Whoa, what? That was an entirely different team. That's a weird complaint. Well, because they're like, oh, because, look, Tecmo fucks up Nintendo before.
Starting point is 01:23:55 You said that in a way that made it sound like you were saying that. No, no. Yeah. So you need to say that you're forward. No, but like, wait, you said that on the internet. No, I saw this on the internet. People were saying. People were saying.
Starting point is 01:24:04 I'm not excited because Tecmo fucked up Other M. That's quite a rest at rest. When in actuality, Other M was fucked up by Sakaguchi and Team Ninja. You mean Sakamoto. Oh, sorry. Sakamoto. Sakamoto and Team Ninja. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:24:17 Pumping the bruce. And these guys, the Dynasty Warriors guys actually never touched it. So yeah. So we just want to clarify everyone is not made by anyone that made Other M. I see tons of people bitching. Right. Now I just want to further clarify to everyone who's like, oh shit, Yo Zelda character action. That's not character action.
Starting point is 01:24:35 No. This is not it. Musou is not character action. This is not character action. It's not Musou. Yes. You look at the layman, you look at that 52nd trailer and you go, that looks like he's using swords and doing that, which is why one day guys, we're going to do it, but not
Starting point is 01:24:51 yet. One day. We're going to explain. We did though. Better than that. You can never display it. It didn't take. No.
Starting point is 01:24:59 We're going to do it for real. We're going to make it take. We're going to make it take. Thank you. Force it to take. Push it. Push it down the throat like a horse pill. So all like, I don't want to go too negative on this because the game is not.
Starting point is 01:25:13 The game is not out. I haven't played it. We've only seen 50 seconds. Right. Never mind. So all that aside, all I can say is that I don't like Dynasty Warriors. I don't think any of them are good. And seeing the perspective of every person around me get fooled every time a new Musou
Starting point is 01:25:37 game with a new license gets announced. Oh man. This one. This one. Samurai. Hold on. This one. Samurai.
Starting point is 01:25:46 Maybe it'll be good. No. This one's Gundam. Maybe it'll be good. No. This one's Hokuto Ken. How could they fuck up Hokuto Ken? It's the worst of all of them.
Starting point is 01:25:54 This one Samurai again but Orochi. And seeing it come all the way around to Zelda and people say, Zelda, Dynasty Warriors, that's obviously the greatest. It's like. Now hold on. Musou is bad. Musou is not bad. But let's look at it.
Starting point is 01:26:14 It's not really bad. No, it's terrible. What does it get on Metacritic and stuff? I don't know. 75. Is that a bad? No. It's a failure of the review system that it takes.
Starting point is 01:26:26 But even to a guy who's one of his favorite games is Bayonetta. Sure. Sure. But what I'm saying is. And Bayonetta gets the same review scores. So you can understand. No. Bayonetta has a 92 Metacritic.
Starting point is 01:26:36 If I may interject. There's a difference. If I may interject. Musou is not. Bad. Musou is repetitive. Yes. And to me.
Starting point is 01:26:44 And shallow. To me, that drains a lot of hype. Yeah, sure. Right? Every time it's maddened. You know what I mean? It's like. But.
Starting point is 01:26:52 But. That being said. It's Japanese maddened. Suddenly the fanboy within can't help but freak out a little bit at the prospect of other playable characters. Now on a positive spin, right? Like I see Musou and I roll my eyes and I'm waiting to be proven wrong. It'd be fine.
Starting point is 01:27:09 It'd be nice to get proven wrong. That being said, all that shit aside, Link's new look with the blue scarf is the coolest link that he's ever been. And. And the idea of Link in something that is more combat oriented is really exciting to me. But here's a thing that Tecmo Koei can't do anything outside combat orientated gameplay. But.
Starting point is 01:27:34 But. And I'm going to hold them. They can barely do that. And here's where I'm holding on to help with my little fanboys. Yeah. Is that Nintendo will fucking stand over their asses. Yeah. Right.
Starting point is 01:27:46 Just. I totally agree with Pat in the sense that like these are bad games. But if there's one franchise, Nintendo will be like. Don't fuck this up. Or they might just go, you know what? Just fucking cancel this. Like they'll do that. Basically.
Starting point is 01:28:03 They'll stand over it and they'll either go pull a Miyamoto and just yell for a year. And then a translator that's translating also into Japanese will just be like he's very upset. He's very upset. So. That's what if it was some other Nintendo franchise, it was like Mock Rider or even Metroid again. Takamaru's Castle.
Starting point is 01:28:21 Takamaru's Castle. Star Fox. Star Fox. I'd be like, eh, this could go out of the way. But the only hope is that like it's Zelda Nintendo will be like, no, actually make this good. And they know they want the big hitters to bring people back to reuse. So.
Starting point is 01:28:36 You know what? Dynasty Warriors. But again, if they're overseeing this, right? So as I what I was saying before is it's Hyrule Warriors. So the idea that there could be more than one playable character. Hyrule Warriors. There's an S at the end of that. Maybe I'm going to be a weird nitpicky asshole.
Starting point is 01:28:54 I know what you're exactly. You're going to say. But the fact that it's called at the end of the trailer is it's Hyrule Warriors and then in quotes it says not final title. Yeah. Why is anyone calling it that instead of what it actually is, which is Zelda Muso? Because why did they say Muso in America for a title? They can't do that.
Starting point is 01:29:11 It's always Warriors. Yes. But if you look at the Japanese trailer. In Japanese it's Zelda Muso. It's Zelda Muso. It's got an amazing logo. It has the scarve. Because that's what it'll actually be called.
Starting point is 01:29:20 Sure. It's on America though. It'll be Hyrule Warriors. It's going to be called Link's Battle Training. Link's Battle Training. Which is great. But again, your mind starts racing and you go Imba. You go Ganon.
Starting point is 01:29:32 Exactly. A really awesome redesigned Imba is what I would say. There's not that many characters in your room. Like Dunny's to Warriors has what? Axe. Sixty. Why would Ash ever come back? I don't know.
Starting point is 01:29:44 But it's just like... Dunny's to Warriors has a sexy playable character. Ash. It's just the thing though. Is this an I at the end? I don't. E. A-S-H-E.
Starting point is 01:29:52 I. Am I spelling that wrong? Shut up nerds. No look at me. I don't think there's going to be... I think you're going to be really disappointed because what I think they're going to do is instead of making like 50 different characters, they're going to have like five and give them weapon sets.
Starting point is 01:30:03 That's what I want. Because in the trailer, you see Link using his sword and shield, he's using the fire rod, he's doing all sorts of stuff like that, so you're going to get Link, maybe Zelda, maybe Ganon, right, as your three, and then they'll have, no not even, because of the timeline. No, but it's chic like character. And each will have like eight weapons. Well I feel really old.
Starting point is 01:30:29 Oh god. Day zero. But again, it could because it uses skyward sword type designs for the monsters. Oh my god. Put this on PC to at least mod it. That's amazing. Holy shit. My hype is now reinvigorated.
Starting point is 01:30:47 Oh no. Oh no. The reason I'm really optimistic about it, like besides like one piece pirate warriors two, which I played, but I don't like these. Is that even good? Apparently that's the one good one in forever. It's the best one. Anyway, besides that like recently they kind of know what they're doing, there's clearly
Starting point is 01:31:07 progression going on in this Zelda, whereas in other ones where it's just like you gain XP and you just, you know, there's clearly progression going on where he has more hearts and then he has different items, he has the master sword in one, he has no master sword in another screenshot. I guess, but that could just be like an upgrade system. But when you're handed the Zelda license, what's one of the things you say? We have to have progression. That's one of the core tenets of Zelda.
Starting point is 01:31:28 And in all fairness, they've never had another, I don't think they've ever had another game license to work with from Musso, just anime, right? So with anime licenses, they always just went like, Hokuto Gundam, Hokuto Gundam one piece. So with anime, it was always just like we can, you know, just whatever, do the progression. Yeah, they've never taken a game. But I really feel like, I really feel like they're going to do something not quite in between a bit more towards Musso, but with some sort of progression with anime. Just to close it out, and you're right, it could be great, but Bladestorm.
Starting point is 01:32:03 Oh, yeah. And Warriors of Troy. Warriors of Troy. Which is actually not played right now at all. It's made by Tecmo Canada. What? Yeah. Warriors of Troy, which is just a bad Musso, was made completely in Canada.
Starting point is 01:32:17 There's a Tecmo Canada? Not anymore. Not anymore. They also made Fatal Inertia. Oh yeah, Fatal Inertia. Which I had to test. I've never heard of this company, but I'm saying good riddance. Warriors of Troy is live on demand.
Starting point is 01:32:31 I played the demo worst. Probably worse than the Okudo ones. Wow. Wow. And I fucking love ancient Greek shit. Man. You love that stuff. I love it.
Starting point is 01:32:42 I love those ancient Greeks. Yeah. And they love you too. I can't wait to see it. No, you're mixing up the wars. I can't wait to see how big this download is going to be as a game, just to show them how it's done. Forty-three minutes.
Starting point is 01:32:55 Three and a half gigs. Because how big was Hokuto no Ken, Musso? It was rather large. I can't remember. It was a whole Wii. But it was like a whole Wii standard one. Yeah. And then it's like, this is a first party thing?
Starting point is 01:33:06 But I thought this because they were just uncompressed. Oh, probably. They just didn't optimize. Also, there's like tons of shit in that game. But Super Mario 3D World is like fucking pet and peanut signing. It's because it's compressed. Yeah, because it doesn't have a lot of assets. So I can't wait for Nintendo to just show up and go, you fuckers don't know how to zip
Starting point is 01:33:23 shit. Well, not now. I know, I know, I know. Game, click, click according to woolly. Just zip that zip. All your files that work just fine. Use seven zip as well. You can only bitch.
Starting point is 01:33:40 You can only unroar Dynasty Warriors with win seven. Or else you will get corruption errors. Oh, God. So something about that. But like, you know, that's not why. It was finished. All right. Right click.
Starting point is 01:33:58 Just run that shit up. We'll be good. Drag and drop onto Nintendo Network. When the Nintendo 3D World was happening, I woke up while the trailer was just mid-starting. And I was like going through my head. I'm like, this is platinum. It's platinum. We know it's not platinum.
Starting point is 01:34:14 We know. Okay. What is this? It's combat training. This is what this is. And when it finishes with that huge master sword like flourish. I'm like, oh, okay. No, it's when he shit out like 40 bombs.
Starting point is 01:34:27 That was sick. Then I was like, yeah, okay, no. Back in the crowd. I was like, no. So that's probably like, I'm probably not being fair to the game just because I'm so frustrated. It's like, okay, let's make a link action game. Platinum.
Starting point is 01:34:42 No. Go away. Like you have platinum right there. They're busy. They're busy. I want to just say they're busy. That's good. I hope so.
Starting point is 01:34:51 Maybe 100 and wonderful too. I do feel like the combat was a fuck up and a half. Still a little hard. Of course you are. We all should be. I think the combat's going to be a bit more robust in this one though. It better fucking hope so. Because one of the things about Zelda is the Z targeting.
Starting point is 01:35:07 And I'm not saying there's going to be a targeting. There's at least going to be strafing, but there's at least going to be strafing of some sort. And there was the large Dodongo enemy. There's never been large enemies in Dynasty Warriors. The Dodongo dislike smoke. Yeah, exactly. Poles boys hate loud noises.
Starting point is 01:35:22 You know, they're trying new stuff, so it'll be fun. Hopefully. I was going to say though, I said this also about Musou games. It's like, fuck you. This in general, right? Like fuck Musou games. And the same thing as Pat. Like every time it's bad.
Starting point is 01:35:34 But I said, if the right franchise comes along, I'll at least play it. I feel like Dynasty Warriors has been on the cusp of becoming actually good for like 10 years. It's like if they just pushed a little bit more, like polish or death. No, just a little bit less China. And that push. A little bit less China. That push is probably going to come from Angry Daddy Iwata.
Starting point is 01:36:00 Staring over you. Very calm Angry Daddy Iwata. Angry Daddy Iwata is a good image. Called Angry Worst Angry. Yes, Angry. Parenting intensifies. A lot of laughs. Parenting directly to you.
Starting point is 01:36:10 I should hope. Like they announced the next Nintendo Direct. They announced the second playable character. It's fucking lube. I hope it's Cranky Kong. I love the Cranky Kong meme of there is a Nintendo Direct tomorrow. I hope they don't announce anything. It's always this picture of Cranky like that.
Starting point is 01:36:38 It's hilarious. Frank has a proposition. How are you doing Frank? Hey guys, I have an armchair CEO proposition. Oh, in a while. So, let's get it. We got rid of that segment. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:36:54 No, it's only occasionally. It just never came back. Yeah. We'll bring it back, but for now it's in the garbage. No. We'll drag it out of the garbage in about 45 seconds. Just in the form box. Yeah, that's the garbage.
Starting point is 01:37:08 That's the unforgettable part. Armchair CEO, Sega. Which franchise of the following? I'm pretty sure we did this. I remember doing Sega. I'm pretty sure we did this outside of the podcast. Okay, fair enough. We just argued like five hours.
Starting point is 01:37:25 No, we did Capcom. Why didn't we record that? Okay, I'm chair CEO Sega. Which of the following franchises do you think has suffered the most? And pick one and what would you do with it? Can we set a rule? No platinum? No platinum.
Starting point is 01:37:42 Because they're too easy. That was just a publishing deal. We're talking like Sega, Sega stuff. Yeah, Sega, Sega, Sega. Fuck it, no platinum, no way forward. Okay, yeah, sure. Why would you... Internal Sega stuff.
Starting point is 01:37:54 It's making it interesting. Sure, sure. Sonic. Yakuza. Aliens. Streets of Rage. Shenmue. Jet Set Radio.
Starting point is 01:38:02 Mad World. Gunstar Heroes. Echo the Dolphin. Crazy Taxi. Fantasy Star. Shining Force. House of the Dead. Valkyria Chronicles.
Starting point is 01:38:10 Knights. Shinobi. Space Channel 5. Togeminal. Virtua Fighter. Okay. Virtua Fighter is doing fine, so I'm not sure what it's even on that list. Well, the fact that no one plays it here.
Starting point is 01:38:21 Here. It does great. Armchair CEO. No one got the most abuse, and what would you do if you were a CEO? I know, right? That's too much. The most abuse? The most abuse out of all of those?
Starting point is 01:38:31 Most abuse is Sonic for sure. Sonic got the most abuse? Sonic got the most abuse? Does abuse need, also, negligence? Like, haven't done anything with it? Yeah, because there's some where it's like Valkyria Chronicles. I'd ship that to Atlas right this minute. And Togeminal, the original guy, he's still like, I don't mind working on it, but I just
Starting point is 01:38:47 don't get a chance. So it's like, I'd ship that over there. I'd say Fantasy Star because you can't even play it anymore. We're looking... The new one's amazing. The new one's great. The new one's great. Fantasy Star and Yakuza both occupy more or less the same spot, and that's the spot that
Starting point is 01:39:00 you view it through the perspective of somebody who lives in North America. It's the spot of, fuck you! This isn't for you! Except not like that, because it's actually more like the finances don't work out. No, okay. Fantasy Star. Fantasy Star is going to be practical. Fantasy Star is ridiculous because it was announced for a Western release over a year
Starting point is 01:39:19 and a half ago. It's going to come when... When episode two comes, it's going to come. I asked you. 2014! Almost a year ago. And I said 2014. It was 2013.
Starting point is 01:39:28 I said it would come out in 2014. I asked you, it would come out in 2013, and you said, absolutely. Okay. And it is now the end of December 2013. So you're going to push the bet to 2014? I recall I'll double the bet if you want. There's no money, so that's easy. I put that 20 bucks on it.
Starting point is 01:39:46 Did we? Yeah. Okay, fine. 20 bucks, and Fantasy Star online too. Two will not come out in the West. Gentlemen's Shakes? Gentlemen's Shakes? We've been 2014.
Starting point is 01:39:55 Okay, yes. It will come out in 2014. All right. Yeah, they shook on it. You guys saw it. Matt was the witness. We'll forget about this in a year. That game will never come out in the West.
Starting point is 01:40:04 Like Pats, we... We bet, yeah. I'm going to be tweeting Sega all year. I'll answer really quickly. Give Aliens franchise to the makers of Outlast. Sure. Yeah. Go to Outlast.com and put AVP on every market.
Starting point is 01:40:21 Now that's what Matt wants, but would that actually make them the most money of these franchises? Wait, this is the question now? It's our chair CEO. You're the CEO of Sega. Okay, do I have to do every franchise on this list? No. No.
Starting point is 01:40:34 Just pick one. Okay, all right. Take Echo the Dolphin and bury it deeper. There's no money in that name. Okay, so I briefly touched on this in another video, I forget which one, but just to bring it back, take Sonic and Jet Set Radio and put that shit together and give it to Nintendo to make. I was just going to say.
Starting point is 01:40:54 Make Jet Set Sonic as a thing and make free money forever as you have a new Sonic world to play with. Now that's something Woolly would do, but what would actually make money? Sonic Jet Set Radio! No one knows Jet Set Radio. I don't remember Jet Set Radio and I own it. Okay, well at the very least, a Sonic game with a new... Your idea is great.
Starting point is 01:41:15 A new Sonic extreme style to people who don't know what Jet Set is would still be interesting enough. Be like, oh look, it's a brand new style of Sonic. Because Sonic's looked the same. Exactly. Angular, graffiti, street tag, like that's such a thing you would do. If the question is... There's grinding in both games.
Starting point is 01:41:35 If the question is, if I'm thinking back and saying what series has suffered the worst abuse, it's Shining Force. Shining Force hasn't even existed in its own form in like 20 years. What are you actually talking about? Shining Force? There's one that came out like a year ago. Really? And it's great.
Starting point is 01:41:53 Was it a strategy RPG? Was it a strategy RPG? It was. No it wasn't. Were you fucking talking? Yes it was. Then why is it better? It wasn't a turn based RPG, it was a strategy RPG.
Starting point is 01:42:02 It was a top down grid. What was it called? Shining Force, the one that took all those videos down on YouTube. Shining in the darkness then it would be called? No, but it was Shining Force. Shining Ark? It took down... Shining Ark.
Starting point is 01:42:14 Was that what it was called? Shining Ark. But you remember the one that took down all the videos? Shining Ark. Let me change this. Shining Force is a grid based, turn based, at tactical RPG in the vein of Final Fantasy Tactics. It has not been that since the early 90s and instead it has been spin off after spin off
Starting point is 01:42:32 of shitty action RPG for forever and will actively, when asked they will actively tell people please stop asking about whether or not Shining Force will go back to a turn based thing. Now Kyrie Chronicles was the closest thing we had towards old Shining Force in forever and then they ruined that to ruin it, whatever. The second one's worse because of the anime focus and the third one's never coming out here for that reason. But it was good.
Starting point is 01:43:01 Let's not just say they ruined it because it never came out here. It's a good game. No, the third one was really good but it didn't seem out here so it's nothing. It's zero. You are so full anyway. So Crazy Taxi is the one that I would say get that shit on every system. That already is. It makes it snow a lot of them.
Starting point is 01:43:19 A new one. A new Crazy Taxi. But it doesn't... And get it on everything. But it's built for an arcade. Like how do you... Okay. Well why not make an arcade skew as well?
Starting point is 01:43:27 Well what I was going to say was... No, but people play Crazy Taxi. You would buy a new Crazy Taxi. The way Crazy Taxi is played is built to put more quarters in. Would you reinvent Crazy Taxi? I don't think it's full reinventing. That's what I'm saying. Would you go the full...
Starting point is 01:43:44 No, I wouldn't want to. I would want it to be a downloadable game. Like Strider Hear You is for Capcom and do that with Crazy Taxi. Same style, wackiness. You're okay. Yeah, same kind of thing. Okay. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:44:00 I mean we've seen digital success and Crazy Taxi I think has enough people who fondly remember that they'd play it. Yeah. Now if we booted that up and like the first track they played was... Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's what you can't. Matt would totally be on board. You can't because they took all that shit out.
Starting point is 01:44:13 Of course. The downloadable thing. But I mean if you heard that you'd be like aww. Yeah. But it's like why don't you just put a more American Wheel 18 Pro Trucker games out there. Because Crazy Taxi's sick. Desert Bus. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:44:27 Yes. What would you do? With Crazy Taxi? No, well for sure. No, he said Outlast AVP. Okay, that's okay. So I say Jet Set Sonic. Your game is licensed to the makers of Outlast.
Starting point is 01:44:37 Jet Set Sonic. Outlast AVP. Sorry. Crazy Taxi. Crazy Taxi on everything. Make a good Shining Force game. Shining Force. But by who?
Starting point is 01:44:46 Who'd you have it? Okay. Some team. By good people. If those people are gone get them back. The guy's making Breath of Fire 6 will do it. And the Valkyria team to make it. Sure.
Starting point is 01:44:57 They're making Valkyria games. We'll send those over then. Do it right now. Pat, you're so bitter it's gross. Michael, I can't play games because some fucking suited second says. You can play it. No, you can't play something you don't understand the language Liam. Maybe you can because you understand it a little bit.
Starting point is 01:45:16 Let's not watch foreign films either. Those are subtitles. A yummy question. A yummy question from Michelangelo. Happy Holidays Zabatsu. Happy Holidays everyone. Fuck you Pat. Fuck you.
Starting point is 01:45:30 It's the Christmas Miracle. This question is about your inner cooking mom. Not watching fucking foreign movies with no subtitles. I want to know what the fuck is your favorite meal that you've ever cooked for yourself? Favorite meal you've cooked for yourself? Okay. I made slash make a goddamn amazing. Pie?
Starting point is 01:45:58 Rose pasta. Okay. Right. Rose is garnished with pies. Rose is my shit. That's my jam. Nobody can fuck with me on that. Not too long ago, I mentioned this I think once before, but I made marinated lamb chops
Starting point is 01:46:14 for me and my girlfriends with rice and steamed vegetables. There's more than one now. And I didn't fuck it up and it was good. It's not good with pearls. There's more than one. My girlfriends? I'm sorry. Yes.
Starting point is 01:46:27 No. Complete. I'm also hungover. Anyway, eggnog. Eggnog. Eggnog. I blame the eggnog. You want a refill?
Starting point is 01:46:35 No, I'm good. But yeah, that was really good. I didn't fucking up and it was actually good because it was my mom's recipe and this tastes like my mom's cooking. I did a good job. Cooking Liam. I made a sick, creamy, deer stew and it was fantastic. Roby's strands of bread.
Starting point is 01:46:55 Thank you. Thank you. It was fantastic. The meal is creamy. I'm on board immediately. Yeah. It was really good. Just rich.
Starting point is 01:47:03 Huge chunks of vegetables. It was great. I can't wait to eat these creamy crackers I made. Does that sound great? No. Of course. If you crunch them up and put them in cream of mushrooms. Shut up.
Starting point is 01:47:13 It's the best part about being sick. Anyway. Yeah. The soup and stew is fucking sick. What do you make for yourself? It's tasty. Cookies? Ever.
Starting point is 01:47:23 Once. Throughout the history of your inception on this planet. Toast? I don't cook very well. Every time that I've managed to cook, I have made myself sick or hurt myself. So in terms of what my favorite is, is like the only thing I can cook without destroying it, which is eggs. Eggs are great.
Starting point is 01:47:50 Which is just... Rocky ate eggs. Regular, regular old eggs. The other morning I had a sick ass breakfast. Eggs and steak. It's good every time. I don't like eggs. Steak and eggs.
Starting point is 01:48:00 Fucking delicious. I was going to correct you there. I was reading about Japan that morning. So everything was kind of backwards. Steaky. Steak and eggs though. Steaky. Yeah, no, I can't do...
Starting point is 01:48:12 Eggs are great though. I can't do eggs, man. I just... It's a thing. Grenada memories? No, just memories. But I'm using eggs. Attacking you?
Starting point is 01:48:20 No, like... No. When you have one bad food experience as a kid, that's all it takes for you to be scarred into not liking a thing. What if somebody's shoved a little chicken in your mouth? Shitty bad egg salad. Oh. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:48:31 Also, I think you're going to be staying away from shrimp salad for a while. Oh yes. Oh, that's a good one. Oh yes. Any salad that's not just a salad. Any salad? Can go fuck off. If there's no vegetables in your salad...
Starting point is 01:48:41 The most, the fanciest thing you should have in your salad is tomatoes. Yeah. Potato salad, go fuck yourself. Macaroni salad, go fuck yourself. I agree with you on these two. Speaking of food, I just want to mention that because there's probably no other way to mention it. I don't know what...
Starting point is 01:48:56 Have any of you partaken in candy corn? Yeah. Yeah. Do you know where I'm going with this? Yes, I do know where you're going with this. I know I have candy corny. I don't get it. I don't get it.
Starting point is 01:49:07 It's not good. Because on the Shandracks, on the Shandrack stream, there's this huge debate that's tearing our fan base apart about whether candy corn is fucking edible or un-eatable. It's neither, but I wouldn't classify it as food. So what I want you to do is go listen to a Lewis Black bit on candy corn, and he fucking sums it up nice in a good 20 minutes or so. None of you being candy corn. I've had candy corn.
Starting point is 01:49:36 Is it good? It's fucking awful. It's terrible. It's terrible. I answered it on the stream. The first two were like, yeah. And then you're like, no. It tastes like a decorative thing that you were supposed to put around the tree, and
Starting point is 01:49:50 you said, fuck it. You just reached in the box and started eating them. And the first few were like, all right. And then it starts to go down. The one you want is climbing. Like pancakes. Is that the word? You have one or two pancakes, and you're like, this is a meat thing?
Starting point is 01:50:02 Two pancakes is great. And then the third pancake is get that shit away from me. Yeah. Stop tasting like food. Yeah. Fuck them. I've never eaten candy corn. I just felt now to question it, because everyone's like-
Starting point is 01:50:13 It's topical. It's everyone's really pissed about this thing. Let's buy some candy corn for next episode. Stop eating the poison corn. Candy corn is the zeitgeist right now. Harsh words. True words. Putting candy corn on blast.
Starting point is 01:50:26 Cody wants to know- Hey! Where Jessica is. Where's my Jessica? Where is Jessica is. Where's my Jessica? Where is Jessica is. Where's my Jessica?
Starting point is 01:50:34 That's true. Are you running jokes from your videos ever make it into your conversations off camera? Yes. Are on camera conversations are off camera conversations? Exactly. Guys, like- That answer is perfect. The on video jokes are bleed over of our real life conversations.
Starting point is 01:50:53 Yeah, for sure. Like sometimes we'll think of some stuff in a video and then we start saying it. There is a 95% overlap here. Oh yeah. Oh no, but wait, wait, guys. Scripted machine. Oh yeah, we scripted it. I'm sorry about that.
Starting point is 01:51:05 I'm sorry about that. Remember me scripting myself being not great at Last of Us? Yeah. Yeah, that was scripted. Well no, that was all real. That wasn't a cinema though. Oh man. You gotta take another example quick.
Starting point is 01:51:15 Nicholas sends a question. Hey Woolly, the only reason I wrote this was to waste your time. Sincerely, Nicholas learning the way of Pat. Yeah! Fucking own. Nicholas, you're on your way. Was his last name Piccolis? You're on your way because not only did you do a dickish thing but you were really polite about it.
Starting point is 01:51:33 Yeah. Which leaves Woolly conflicted as to how to respond. And thus he read it on the air. But he picked that question. He double wasted his time. Right? Nico says, Hey Roman.
Starting point is 01:51:49 My cousin. Oh, we're assholes. Hey best friends. Fuck you Woolly, you magnificent bastard for introducing me to boy shorts. Oh no. And the wonders they hold. I had no idea they were so amazing. Why are they so great?
Starting point is 01:52:08 Well. They just adhere to your butt so good. They're fat as you would know. Yeah. I want Woolly to take out a giant book and say volume one. Why boy shorts are great. The bible of boy shorts. All about boy shorts.
Starting point is 01:52:24 Yeah, yeah, yeah. Not bad. They're great. What's Pat making faces about? Are you wearing boy shorts under those pens? Oh, do you not know what they are? I do. I play beyond.
Starting point is 01:52:35 Okay. It's just getting a little. Like barely. You just looking them up? It's just getting a little weird in here. You need a reminder? No, I'm checking. You have to pallet my cleanse.
Starting point is 01:52:44 Wow. That's nice. Right nog? No. I had, I didn't have any. Your drunk pack. Go home. Oh.
Starting point is 01:52:53 Pallet my cleanse. I've been doing that all week. I think my brain's going bad. Akshay. Stupid brain. Akshay asks, what is your favorite game over or failure sequence in a game? Oh, well, I know what Matt says.
Starting point is 01:53:08 I've got mine. All yours is obvious. Oh, shit. I actually don't. Like, I know what it is, but I don't know what your guys are thinking. I think yours is. The one that you have a fucking t-shirt of.
Starting point is 01:53:20 Yeah, exactly. Yeah, no, but there's some others like that are fringe. I'm kind of like, oh, that's awesome. You've been murdered by shit. You've been murdered by sharks game over. My strong one. My favorite of all time is fish and mailed. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 01:53:35 Time paradox. That one's good. I guess, sorry, really quick. And Marth, you're just saying too bad. Yeah. It's really funny. Yeah. I've always been, everyone's fond of RE4s.
Starting point is 01:53:48 You are dead. You are dead. And with the graphic murder animation. Yeah, exactly. But yeah, Friday the 13th is a fucking good one. For me, the one that I can think of right now is the special Lavos game over in Chrono Trigger. But the future refused to change.
Starting point is 01:54:05 Oh, that was fantastic. That's a good one. You got it. You'd always fight Lavos right at the beginning. You'd fucking get owned. It's like, oh no. And then you get an ending for it. Oh, I could change the future.
Starting point is 01:54:17 Yeah, yeah, yeah. Also, Final Fight. What? Oh, just, yeah. Final Fight has a great one. Or even Double Dragon Neon's thing where he's about to poke into the eyes. Yeah, those were good.
Starting point is 01:54:30 Right. Well, you have the continue screen. Yeah. I think it's a game mode screen. Oh, well, yeah. I guess it's different. Oh, it's all the same. Trying to blow out the dynamite.
Starting point is 01:54:38 Yeah, that one, exactly. Or it just isn't Street Fighter 2. It has a 9, 8, 0. Then your character just goes into gray and just dies. I was a much bigger fan of the Alpha 3-1. Where the guy was screaming, 1, 0.
Starting point is 01:55:00 Game over. They're a piece of shit. 7, 6. What's the next question, Willow? For each of you, which podcast... Oh, sorry, this is from Budman. Thanks, Budman. For each of you...
Starting point is 01:55:16 Keep smoking. Seeing as we're near the new... Wow. Can you just read it verbatim? No, the question's fucked. So before the new end's year, which podcast moments or episodes have been your favorite so far?
Starting point is 01:55:31 Sorry, Budman. What's a good podcast moment that you've liked? We've done 20 of these fucking things already. Yeah, but when it's like in 3 hour, 2 and a half hour block... It all runs together. All the times that we sequentially freaked out about wonderful one-on-one.
Starting point is 01:55:46 Over the course of the four different episodes. That's one of my favorites. I think my favorite ever was not on the podcast, so I guess it's cheating, but seeing people's comments around... I'm so 12 or 13 or whatever. It says, please don't name your podcast Area in Resurrection.
Starting point is 01:56:05 People saw me downloading it, and now I'm in trouble. I think it comes for me kind of around that. It's like either when someone has said something and you think to yourself, that's probably gonna be what the podcast is. I know what it turns out to be true. Which is why I told you to stop saying it.
Starting point is 01:56:23 Which is why I told you to stop saying it, but I think the last one was like, what was the one about Voltron runs on Hepatitis? And I said that, and I was like, oh that sounds like it's probably gonna do it. I'll be the dick. No, my favorite moments are absolutely naming the podcast. Those are the best, the one-liners.
Starting point is 01:56:41 Context not required. Who needs context? Just go back and read over the list of 20. Dummy shit ever. This sounds like an exciting podcast. I should listen to this. I'll form the dick. That should have been my name.
Starting point is 01:56:59 Just I'll form the dick. Are you wrestling with a dick? Gabriel asks, if you were the all-power dictator. The all-powerful dictator. I'll form the dictator. If you were the all-powerful dictator of the US, what video game-related idea would you use
Starting point is 01:57:25 to deal with the city of Detroit? Oh, wow! The same thing that was done to Southtown. Just have a blood tournament? No, just have a nuke. I know. I'm thinking to form 2nd Detroit. I know you're gonna say form hunger factories.
Starting point is 01:57:43 There's already those. Either create the Mad World event. Oh my god, that's so good! The first thing I thought of was running Mad World. Either do that or open Seraph Industries. Seraph Industries is a pretty good solution. That's a pretty good one. I would send in PMCs.
Starting point is 01:58:01 That's what you gotta do at this point. Or elect an awesome mayor to just clean up the city street by street. Perhaps a former wrestler? Perhaps a former wrestler. Or just a big Robocop. Okay, if you're born in the city of Detroit, you get 1,000 years in jail.
Starting point is 01:58:19 Yeah! And then you have to work off your jail time to society by making Detroit better. Yeah! Thank you, Pat. How did I not get that along? I know, I couldn't believe it. That's from Freedom Wars. Coming soon to the Vita.
Starting point is 01:58:35 The game that attack on Titan should have been. Really? The anime that attack on Titan should have been. Yeah! You see that fucking, he's grappling over the wall? You're getting so good! You're getting hyped over a hunting action game! Yeah!
Starting point is 01:58:53 Attack on Titan is so bad! They won't give it to me! They'll give it to you. It's just called Freedom Wars. Instead of Titans, they're called Abduct Doors. That's an awesome game though. Philip says, loving the podcast. Awesome work, keep it up.
Starting point is 01:59:09 Appreciate it, Philip. If you could choose to have a versus style game of a company or two companies crossing over, what would it be? Nintendo versus Capcom easily. And who would make the roster? Well, forget the roster, it's too much shit. Yeah, Nintendo versus Capcom.
Starting point is 01:59:25 I have one that is, I think that would be really interesting and would probably do super well. Yours is pretty easy. An all-star Valve battle game would be all those amazing characters, like Barney.
Starting point is 01:59:41 And Ricochet. And the Hidden. And the entire cast of Team Fortress. And with that portal and all the awesome fighting game characters from Shell.
Starting point is 01:59:57 It doesn't have to be like a direct fight or it can be more fun. Gordon Freeman's quips and stuff. I guess. Anyway, I think it would be fun. I just like all of Valve's characters like headcraft. Sure. But honestly, what I think, like Team Fortress
Starting point is 02:00:13 is already a giant cast of characters right there. And they don't have like fun little playstarts in mind. Well yeah, you know what else would be really good? Activision. With such awesome characters such as Soap and Captain Price. Tony Hawk. I would love a fighting game based on Attack on Titan.
Starting point is 02:00:29 Oh wait. That exists in two forms and it's shit and fantastic. What's your good one? Early 90s. Apogy. Apogy. Commander Keen.
Starting point is 02:00:45 BJ Blaskowitz. Like just all those little like Blakestone. All these like C tier early PC heroes. Jazzy Jackrabbit. Jazz. I guess like the one that we joked about
Starting point is 02:01:01 No More Heroes by Arc System Works. Yeah, No More Heroes. No More Heroes. Oh God. I'm surprised you got the last one out. It's not really a versus. You said that was your favorite IP of the generation, right? Your favorite new IP.
Starting point is 02:01:17 I want a Dissidia style fighter. Not the best, but my favorite. Using every single licensed property that Square Enix has touched and has a hold of to produce games. And have them cross over with Diss, Exile, Sleeping Dogs.
Starting point is 02:01:33 All of it. Yuffie versus Agent 47. Crossing over. Finally. And everybody they have access to. To be fair, Agent 47 would have an interesting conversation with the Turks.
Starting point is 02:01:48 That is Aya Brea versus 47 versus Cream. Finally. All of it. That includes Disney. That includes Marvel.
Starting point is 02:02:04 He said everyone they've ever touched. Oh my God. That includes Star Wars. So you just want everything all stars battle around. Yes I do. Yes I do. I want the Square Enix with association with every Eidos
Starting point is 02:02:20 character ever. Every Disney Marvel and Star Wars character ever. And let's throw them together with SEGA and all the platinum characters that they've touched over the time. And all the old games that they've done. I want it all.
Starting point is 02:02:36 Allow me to introduce you to a website. It's called Salty Bet. It's called Salty Bet. It's pretty cool. I agree. I want the Salty Bet fighting game with with Polish. With Twitch.
Starting point is 02:02:52 I want the Twitch Salty Bet crossover fighting game. I agree with Matt though. Capcom Nintendo no question. It's for a realistic one. That's easily the best. It's a 3B. It's about Brainer. John sends a
Starting point is 02:03:08 crazy kind of insane ranting mail about Tomb Raider. I'm just going to sum this all up into do you like the old Tomb Raider games? He sent this like twice. It's just all over the place. I'm sorry John. You sound really crazy.
Starting point is 02:03:24 But yeah, the old Classic Tomb Raider. Classic is a core design. One, two, three. One, two, three. It actually goes up to one to seven. Anniversary. Let's put it in there. If you want. I do like those games.
Starting point is 02:03:40 All three of them? Really? Three is kind of... One and two are good. There's a plane one and two. But it's like they kind of already did that. Anniversary was what those were, which is a cool setup. But better controls and better
Starting point is 02:03:56 graphics. That grid based platforming is really bad. Now one was fantastic at the time. Holy shit. I'm doing... I played that on PC and it blew my fucking mind back in time. Shooting raptors and walls. Oh my god. It was so nuts. The lock on gun fighting was nuts.
Starting point is 02:04:12 It was really good. What was the one that starts out where you're in her mansion and you can do a swan dive? I would say two. That was two? That's the one where I started going, that's a cool swan dive. But... It didn't... I'm going to assume
Starting point is 02:04:28 he is asking us if we like the old ones in comparison. No, not even. He's just saying a ton of shit. He's just ranting about how the classic trilogy is amazing and when are you guys going to do an old school game that will ever...
Starting point is 02:04:44 I'm just saying those games did not age well and are incredibly difficult. They were difficult back when they came out. That's one of those weird things. Where you go back to old games and you're like, oh I didn't remember this being as hard. Tomb Raider 1 was fucking hard when it came out. It was cryptic.
Starting point is 02:05:00 You were playing on a keyboard. There were traps that just instantly killed you. And the levels were super huge and complicated. You had to solve puzzles and kill T-Rexes. Yeah, totally. The same things that made them awesome also made some hard to go back to. I would love
Starting point is 02:05:16 a remake of the first one that was super polished to today's standards. And by today's standards, I don't mean like dumb it down, generic. No, you mean modded so that it's neutering. Are you familiar with it? No. I'm not trying to... I know Anniversary. Is it the first game?
Starting point is 02:05:32 Yeah, it's a remake. It's exactly what you're asking for right now. Anniversary is a remake apart one. Well shit, I'll just go buy that. There's a steam sale on right now. You probably buy it for like 80 cents. Let me get my phone. Yeah, do it. So remember Angel of Darkness.
Starting point is 02:05:48 That's the one you want to play. Remember, Angel of Darkness. I should get that just to play through it. It's so weird when you see the game and you see the game and you're like, that game killed that studio. It killed it. And not like weird nebulous like Darksiders 2
Starting point is 02:06:04 killed that team. No, Darksiders 2 did okay and it was good. But they died for other reasons. Just happened to be fucking Angel of Darkness killed it. Angel of Darkness was like my wall that feels lighter now. Yeah. And the last course just goes down. And all of a sudden I'm eating shit.
Starting point is 02:06:20 The last part of this mail just starts going on about the different models and like the first one. Oh god damn it. I know it's gonna be like going nuts. Really quickly for Angel of Darkness I have like a little interview with someone that works in Angel of Darkness. It's like every three months management
Starting point is 02:06:36 changed that Eidos and they kept saying scrap what you did start over. Scrap what you did start over. And then when the last group was like eh just release it. At this point. Like it wasn't even done. Yeah, it felt like that.
Starting point is 02:06:52 It was basically like well okay. Remember like 50% of the game you don't play as Lara Croft but play as some dude man. Yeah. Tim. Hey Tim. Hey guys.
Starting point is 02:07:08 My name is Tim. What are some of the worst voice acting examples in video games you've ever heard. It's very simple. Don't open that door. There is a number one and a number two and these are undisputed. I think we all agree universally. I don't think that's chaos wars.
Starting point is 02:07:24 Chaos wars. Of all time. Chaos wars. And number two is Castle Shikigami 2 The first one I'll agree. Just remind me that's the one where they got the voice cast friends. Basically they got the friends.
Starting point is 02:07:40 That's the worst by far. Number two is Up for Debate because number two I believe to be Shining Force 3 the American version. Beware my Arctic Blast. Fuck off. Oh my god. Castle Shikigami is just like chaos wars.
Starting point is 02:07:56 It's the same deal. Does it really deserve a slot then? I really can't feel my body right now. That's chaos. But I'm saying like that type of delivery. But does that deserve a second spot? I mean it's exactly the same. But no it's a different game entirely.
Starting point is 02:08:12 Should we separate this out from places that they just didn't try and places that they did try and then failed? Because this is places that hired their cousins. Star Ocean 4 The voice acting is way up there.
Starting point is 02:08:28 And they really try. Infinite undiscovery. Dinner dance. You guys want to laugh your asses off. Go on to YouTube and look for the dinner dance. Infinite undiscovery. And also go look for Star Ocean 4 Limmel.
Starting point is 02:08:44 That's L-Y-M-L-E. Nappy time. Can I ruffle everyone's feathers? Ruffle my chin off. I'm going to submit the Tidus laughing scene. Oh that's actually a dumb answer. But okay.
Starting point is 02:09:00 Because of how ridiculous that sounds. That scene. How do I put this? That scene makes sense. It's the actors that failed it. Okay. We're talking about voice acting. You're right.
Starting point is 02:09:16 I'm so used to defending that scene as being bad but not for the reasons you think it is. I was confused when you actually came in on the actual reason. The actors are not great for that. The Japanese voice acting in that scene ironically actually way worse. I totally thought you were going to say something else.
Starting point is 02:09:32 I put it into a video. It's when Tidus laughs and his laugh is described as crow-like. It is unbelievable that the Japanese version is way...not just a little.
Starting point is 02:09:48 But it was substantially improved for the American release. And that's... That's bad. You fucked it up. You fucked it up voice people. And obviously I have to mention just out of a duty-sake the reasonable one's voice acting.
Starting point is 02:10:04 Yeah but that gets in the gray area. It's awesome. It's charming but like... No! Joseph! No! Don't open that door. Take a look at this!
Starting point is 02:10:22 What is it? What do you think of it? Jill Sandwiches etc. Jill Sandwich. Barry, don't screw up again. Why is she saying it like that? She like trips over her own sentence. You keep asking me this question and there's never an answer.
Starting point is 02:10:38 I ask you this question like once a week. Yeah. Don't screw up again. Marble8797 They're best friends. What are the stupidest, worst TV and comic or cartoon
Starting point is 02:10:54 crossovers? That actually exists or thinking one's up right now? That existed. Scooby Doo and WWE. No! Scooby Doo. Scooby Doo and Adam West Batman. That should have been...
Starting point is 02:11:10 Scooby Doo wrestling should have been during the Attitude Era. Of course it should have. Hey, Blank Wrestling should have been in the Attitude Era. Oh yeah, I'm sorry, we're Atatards. Yeah. No, the two that come to mind immediately
Starting point is 02:11:26 are the Street Fighter cartoon and what the fuck was that guy? Warrior King! Showing up over the course of multiple different episodes of different shows. It was this dude in a universe they're trying to push.
Starting point is 02:11:42 He kept leaping through dimensions so he'd leap out of Street Fighter and say thanks for the boning Chun-Li. And Chun-Li's like, oh! And then he would show up in the next show that appeared in the lineup that Saturday. But it was terrible, the character was not
Starting point is 02:11:58 interesting. And the hacks at whatever studio made Street Fighter were like, yeah, okay, let's do this. Let's dedicate an episode to the stupid Warrior King. And again, the second being the comic book, the Malibu Street Fighter comics.
Starting point is 02:12:14 The Ferret versus Honda! The Ferret! The Legend of Zelda, of course, is pretty fucking terrible. It's charming though. But what's the crossover? Oh, sorry, I got distracted. Oh, you said what's the worst cartoon
Starting point is 02:12:30 based on a thing? Yeah, sorry, sorry, crossover, yeah. And first of all, you're wrong. Legend of Zelda is really awesome. I remember in Nintendo... Oh god, sorry, wait, that spin-off timeline of Hyrule
Starting point is 02:12:46 is the greatest thing. Oh, that, yeah, I love it. You have to put that in the show notes. What are you talking about? It's the Hyrule story of timeline, except it's the spin-off games. And it follows like the moment... Okay, so the time split
Starting point is 02:13:02 in the middle is whether or not Link wins the Soul Calibur tournament. Yeah! And where he loses it goes to Faces of Evil. Oh, that's awesome! And if the hero, the hero wins, but Link dies, then we go to the Wind Hero
Starting point is 02:13:18 which is the tingle games. And it starts at the beginning with the era of the eight dragons and like the Game & Watch game and immediately after that, the era of the eight dead dragons. And then Tetris Trackers. The era of no localization. Link
Starting point is 02:13:34 asks to be excused. Or tingles, rupee thing. That's what I said, the tingle timeline is if Link dies. Anyway, back on the topic. Yeah, go, do you have an answer? No, Scooby-Doo X modern WWE. I was gonna say...
Starting point is 02:13:50 I like the implication there that wrestling is a cartoon. Yeah! Close enough. I'm gonna say that that monster hunter shit and fucking, what's it called? God, it's so
Starting point is 02:14:06 nameless to me now. What was the last PSB Metal Gear called again? Oh, Monster Hunter and Peace Walker. It was so pointless and it didn't increase sales that much. It was funny. I would have rather read
Starting point is 02:14:22 Peace Walker shit and Monster Hunter. I would have seen you. Oh my god! That's Rathalos. I had assumed you would have been way more butthurt about Berserk in Dragon's Dogma. No, I wanted them to do more. They should have done more.
Starting point is 02:14:38 I wonder if you fooled Berserk DLC. Yeah, I guess that's... It looked like that was gonna happen. There's no movie crossover that just grinds your gears. Movie crossover? Freddy vs. Jason. Freddy vs. Jason is great. It's great, it's terrible.
Starting point is 02:14:54 It would have been better in the 90s. Jason is great because it's terrible and then you get all the way to the end and then Freddy starts doing wrestling modes. But you can't do it in the 90s because they were still making money and they were too greedy to talk to each other. It's kind of weird that
Starting point is 02:15:10 AVP and Freddy vs. Jason only came out in the aughts. No one cares anymore now. It's like Spectral vs. Generation. But at the end of Freddy Jason goes to hell. He shows straight up Freddy Claw
Starting point is 02:15:26 taking his mask. That was in 93. So that's when they were trying to... They waited like 15 years. But they did that with no approval or permission and just hoped that it would work out. Just like how there's an alien skull in Predator 2. Exactly.
Starting point is 02:15:42 I kind of recently-ish because I like Torico a lot. I watched a Torico One Piece Dragon Ball Z crossover. It was awful. Really? Same thing. Of course it was. The show is even more aimed at kids.
Starting point is 02:15:58 Obviously. The problem with it is they have the full kind of almost 10 person cast from each of the three shows together. They've got 60 minutes to get each character through their token cool moment.
Starting point is 02:16:14 They have the first big bombastic opening sequence with Torico and Goku and One Piece Kid doing their cool shit. I mean Luffy. And then after that it's just like let's mismatch them in funny ways and...
Starting point is 02:16:30 Oh damn I'm so mad that I know exactly what that just did. So they just mismatch them in funny ways and it's like oh have your token moments with all these characters whatever and it was just so boring. A crossover of these three things shouldn't be boring.
Starting point is 02:16:46 It was just a huge let down waste of time. I know it's not about the best crossovers but one of the best crossovers of all time is Ninja Turtles cross Ninja Turtles cross Ninja Turtles. You mean Turtles forever? It's the best.
Starting point is 02:17:02 You don't need to watch Ninja Turtles after you watch this. And to that end Forever Red in Power Rangers. Forever Red's pretty fucking nuts. You'd think that the cross of Namco, Sega and Calcom would have produced much better things. The recent...
Starting point is 02:17:18 What's Power Rangers called in Japan? Super Sentai. Whatever Ranger, it's called whatever Ranger. It's actually called whatever Ranger. Go Kiger is fucking awesome. No, Decker Ranger, Aber Ranger. No, but I like the idea of whatever Ranger. Is it just Super Sentai, Go Kiger
Starting point is 02:17:34 or whatever? That one, Go Kiger was fucking awesome because it was all the old Ranger shows all together. Um... Zachary says... Hey Zach. You have Fluffy White fur.
Starting point is 02:17:50 You get a chance to perform a Mortal Kombat fatality on a David Cage character. Wow, that's kind of random. Pick one and do it. I would perform Sub-Zero's Spine Rift to David Cage because he's in one of the games. I would do Noob Saibot's Splitter Down.
Starting point is 02:18:06 Damn it! God damn it! To Tyler. That seems a little harsh to Tyler. You stole my... And you didn't play Heavy Rain. There's probably characters who'll hate more. Oh wait, there's the even more racist black guy in Heavy Rain. No, he's really racist.
Starting point is 02:18:22 Once you see this guy... You think Big Bo is bad? Okay. If not Tyler, then Agatha. Sure would have. I want to do... I play Noob Saibot. I want Reptile's Acid Burn Face spit.
Starting point is 02:18:38 I forget which one it was, but he finds up on you and he vomits on your face. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I want to do that to Jason. Sure, sure, sure. Also... No, Sean! Sean! Why the fuck would I assume you would say anything that's not a Reptile move?
Starting point is 02:18:54 Like, this would make any sense. I know, but... Because Make-A-Wish is the best ever. I would use Scorpions to pull Jason out of the way of the car. And then burn him? Yeah. He'd get over here first. Impaled and bleeding.
Starting point is 02:19:10 But he wouldn't get hit by the car. You know why I would change mine to the Shao Kahn's Fatality, where he just steps through you. To David Ketch. Right. Or maybe just Ethan Morris, because I hate Ethan Morris the most, I think.
Starting point is 02:19:26 Jason was asking to be hit by that car. He's asking for it. Forrest! He's wearing I Love Cars shorts. Yeah, I love Gatorade. I love I Love Cars boy shorts. Forrest says, what is your biggest, you'll never believe I just did that shit in gaming?
Starting point is 02:19:46 Did I ever tell the Shadow of the Colossus story on the podcast? I have the Shadow of the Colossus story too! Okay? You did not. After you then. Okay, well mine was just the fucking the moment that it solidified this game in my brain. As the greatest. Was fighting
Starting point is 02:20:02 the bird. Yeah. And it was just like you're crawling along the back and holding on for your dear life and it was this amazing struggle of slowly getting up to the top and getting knocked over piece by piece till eventually
Starting point is 02:20:18 he turns a corner and I let go completely and I'm sailing through the air until the last second with just enough grip, I grab onto the end of his tail and ride that out for a little bit but then can't get back up and fall to the end. It was so cinematic
Starting point is 02:20:34 I couldn't believe what was happening. I'll ask you guys a quick favor because I couldn't find it. I was trying to find I really wanted to watch this like top 10 or something cool ways to kill Colossus. Oh I've got your list. No but like is there a video? Yes. Here's how you do it.
Starting point is 02:20:50 You search for Shadow of the Colossus hard time attack. Hard time attack. Yeah and that'll get you the test. Because in order to complete the hard time attack you need to do all the bullshit. I did all that shit. I mean when you're on the sword and he flings you on. Yes I used to do that shit.
Starting point is 02:21:06 There's three. There's three. There's landing on the sword and getting tossed into there. There's riding avian and dropping from one wing all the way down to the other wing. There's jumping off of the Colosseum and down thrusting into the salamander
Starting point is 02:21:22 and then the most insane thing I overgore the last one the final boss. Yes you can avoid going underground in time. You can run straight at him. You have to have pixel perfect turns
Starting point is 02:21:38 and you dodge his lightning blasts running at him like a fucking boss. You know what I just realized that shaves off a significant amount of time killing that boss. Dude like just you see it looks like an anime sequence of like a badass with a sword running at
Starting point is 02:21:54 guy and just dodging everything. So my I wish this was in the era in which everything is being recorded because I know that there are people that are going to say fuck you pet that's bullshit that didn't happen. So you mind the story of failure. I didn't get it. I'm just story of succeeding in
Starting point is 02:22:10 spite of myself. Okay. So I'm fighting the phalanx. I believe that's 13. 13 or 11. But it's the giant sky one in the desert. Yes. He pops out of the ground and he flies around like way too high.
Starting point is 02:22:26 I remember this. I remember this. And the gameplay is you're supposed to shoot him with arrows and to flee to his gas stack so he falls down and you jump on. You run aggro up to the side and you jump on his spines and you stab him. So eventually after a while being on the ground he will go into the ground and then recharge his
Starting point is 02:22:42 his sacks and then pop up and you can use the look at monster button to lock onto him underground and that's the ballpark where he is. And what happened was I was riding on aggro and he popped up directly underneath my character in such a way that
Starting point is 02:22:58 you should fly off like it causes a physics effect. But I got caught on one of his wings as aggro's legs clipped around one of his wings as he flew up all the way in the sky and he turned just so that when aggro fell off he fell off
Starting point is 02:23:14 onto the top of the phalanx and I was at the head of the phalanx riding aggro around the top of him in the sky that's so sick maybe 45 seconds because I ran all the way to the back with aggro
Starting point is 02:23:30 and then jumped off aggro and we went to stab him and the instant I got off aggro aggro's AI took over and he fell right the fuck off and I'm holding on to the phalanx and I look over and aggro's falling a million feet and like it's far enough
Starting point is 02:23:46 of a way that he becomes a dot so you don't even know so I'm like you killed my horse and I fucking killed him and then he falls and the cutscenes starts playing and you get hit with the energy
Starting point is 02:24:02 and aggro runs up to smell me and I'm like oh my horse that's such a legolas moment you know like fighting the horse up the beast let's make legolas do some bullshit you can't do like mounting the horse from the bottom in slow motion as it rides by
Starting point is 02:24:18 it's this ridiculous thing he does for no reason they call it something really lame in the movies they call it a leggy moment for me really quickly I was like really late at night and I was playing Resident Evil Code Veronica
Starting point is 02:24:34 and I was against Nosferatu on the surface and I exhausted everything I had and I was playing for a while guess what? there's only one way to deal with them once you exhaust everything you have what? wait there's a knife in his chest I exhausted with everything I had
Starting point is 02:24:50 but except I had one bullet left in like the standard gun the handgun the standard handgun and I kept going this is my last bullet I need to keep so I just run around the little platform and he's just like shooting his like gassy far gas at me whatever
Starting point is 02:25:06 and I'm like oh fuck whatever I shoot him BLUUUUUUUUUUU I'm like oh my god I'm so fucking clutched I mean I don't know I can't think of like many off the top of my head I mean the SAX I'm so glad that was on film
Starting point is 02:25:22 cause that was like that was so good but you had no idea what you were doing I mean I knew what I was doing but he was in that super state of I don't know what I'm doing but it's working because I know what I'm doing so much
Starting point is 02:25:38 but yeah the ice missile is going to work but will I make the jump no I won't make the jump yeah I made the jump that kind of thing otherwise I don't know like it was pretty badass clearing streets of rage for the first time without dying but like I don't know I can't think of one in particular right now
Starting point is 02:25:54 alright well you got one on film melee victories with Ganondorf are the most satisfying thing in the world and that's just all I'm thinking right now there are billions fighting game moments double perfecting people who I should not double perfect
Starting point is 02:26:10 like at tournaments when people you get up and people are like what the fuck just happened and I'm like of course for some reason I still really remember spd'ing the ex rush punch oh yeah you remember that
Starting point is 02:26:26 we both had almost no health left I just went into your normal zone and I'm like he's going to do a normal grab and get an ex rush punch there's one particular thing at a tournament where again I was playing against one of the guys that usually gets top 4 like top 4 in our Montreal scene
Starting point is 02:26:42 and double perfected him and like everyone lost their shit and was like what the fuck and dudes that didn't see it were like yo what the fuck woolly what happened and I was like not much was that marvel 3? no that was true fighter
Starting point is 02:26:58 cause he was the biggest shit talker so I had a good moment I was like nah that was good third strike like third strike for the ex rush to the PS2 where it was Dudley cross countering himself yeah we were all like just studying it we were like what happened it was weird or like Dudley doing a
Starting point is 02:27:14 KO cross counter EX you kick him and he's like KO and then he goes cross counter boom boom boom too strong and collapses I love you dudders Zach says
Starting point is 02:27:30 hey Zaibatsu I know you guys have sometimes talked about Super Sentai and Kamen Rider I'm wondering what are you guys favorite riders in Sentai teams Kikonin Sentai Akiba Ranger all the way I fucking love the shit out of Abari Killer
Starting point is 02:27:46 from Abba Ranger Abari Killer is the coolest fucker ever he's the ranger that doesn't even give a shit about the rest and he goes to hell and he's like I'm just gonna transform and fight dudes in hell fuck you my favorite Kamen Rider
Starting point is 02:28:02 is Kamen Rider Kabuto like the series well that's the intro but my favorite of there is Sasord with Noblesse Oblige stupid pissant fuck my favorite is that Sentai show where Hitomi Jake
Starting point is 02:28:18 Mariko Chen can we give a special shout out to Garo and Karras for being super violent and bloody Karras is really close to Kamen Rider in Super Sentai he's like 90%
Starting point is 02:28:34 dude like Tatsunoko he's a Tatsunoko but he doesn't wear the right mask so he's not a rider he counts also like Garo is pretty much just live action Karras in many ways
Starting point is 02:28:50 shout out to what's his face from Kamen Rider Double shout out to that guy who's black and green I don't know his name he's sick not as good as Akiba shout out to Zebi
Starting point is 02:29:06 shout out to the Ooze and Ivan Ooze shout out to Faiz shout out to Goldar alright we've gone too far that monster made of eyeballs in the first episode or whatever oh
Starting point is 02:29:24 here's a question from Dano oh no no way Dano asks why does that smell so much oh actually it's sorry Dan it's not that great a question bro
Starting point is 02:29:40 oh no here's what you do either read it or you don't read it the devil appears in the middle of the room and he will claim your soul and drag you to hell forever you will have one chance to save your soul you will have one chance to save your soul and that's by choosing to play
Starting point is 02:29:56 him in a one competitive multiplayer game what do you choose to play that's actually a really interesting question you could have said what's your favorite game if it's a competitive multiplayer that you're good at tournament fighters tournament fighters
Starting point is 02:30:12 Dano really? I played like nine years that's where your name came from obviously I played in the film medios on the DS oh yeah I feel like I'm untouchable
Starting point is 02:30:28 alternatively if it wasn't the obvious I'd play him in Tetris you roll your eyes when I say day of defeat you look like pissed off and disgusted you're like going no it's because I remembered your nickname but then I'm like I can't say that exactly
Starting point is 02:30:44 but I'm like that's where you got that Tetris DS oh man I played I'd fucking play the double in Tetris DS every single day in high school I played like three hours a day in defeat that game's really good not source though that shit's garbage it is a good game fuck source
Starting point is 02:31:00 fuck source it ruins everything it ruins counter strike it ruins day to feet and it will give this final question Dan you suck yeah Dan I'm disappointed Dan he'll never be on the podcast now man you give him shit in person for that I will
Starting point is 02:31:16 the last night I was hanging out with him and I said hey you want to be on the podcast and he was like really I'm like no and then he got really pissed off because I was clicking through when I saw that and I was like really really
Starting point is 02:31:32 no Michael says seeing that two snack style picture of Matt, Pat and Woolly and then the other style picture of Liam looks like it's setting off my OCD alarm so many peers when the fuck is Liam gonna get
Starting point is 02:31:48 two snacks? we should redirect this to Matt we should probably not only do that but we should probably change mine to be more bald yeah well so here's two things we should probably like yeah legit do that two snacks is a little bit busy
Starting point is 02:32:04 but he'll do it but we're also our next best friend's brawl episode I'm early next year let's just say I don't know we'll just redo the entire intro just so everything's consistent because there's two snacks stuff in there
Starting point is 02:32:20 there's another guy's stuff there's like another friend's artwork we should probably have I drew the Metroid with my penis but Swirly Eyes Liam is like it's the staplet oh I remember that person's gone now
Starting point is 02:32:36 let's replace them he's fucking going now he's totally right for a while I was like I can't stand this and now I'm like that's fine whatever contact two snacks I can do that
Starting point is 02:32:52 only you have the two snacks thing only the boss man can do it just a big pony thing you can interpret that however you want he is a pony love you two snacks yeah
Starting point is 02:33:08 well we hope you guys have I don't know why we need two snacks and you just put up a spotlight of Plague's face no not that one not three snacks
Starting point is 02:33:24 no no Plague's season he's like oh that's love for me hmm time to go back to being huge Plague's I saw so many people commenting on huge quest going wow
Starting point is 02:33:40 Pat was right this is stupid huge quest was great though I really liked it huge quest was great if anyone hasn't seen it I'll give a shout outs again if you want to see something dumb and huge go down to Plague of Grypes' channel and watch huge quest yeah
Starting point is 02:33:56 and get huge motherfuckers it's really weird to be like his thing is so dumb now let's continue our talk about Voltron running on hepatitis or whatever but yeah well no I was just going to wish all the listeners happy holidays
Starting point is 02:34:12 all the best wish them a Merry Christmas a Merry Christmas a Happy Kwanzika it's way too late for Hanukkah but belated Hanukkah wishes to you guys and a Festivus miracle if that's what you do too I have a friend that does Festivus parties it's Festivus real
Starting point is 02:34:28 people are doing it now but is it real though? you get the pole you do the feet of strength that's my favorite thing yeah but honestly it's been a pretty awesome year for sure
Starting point is 02:34:44 not been an awful one we've come a pretty long way that's what iTunes thinks iTunes definitely thinks that that's a different thing Liam you now exist yeah I'm a thing it's weird
Starting point is 02:35:00 it's nice to be validated for once yeah validated on a podcast in which everyone yells at you about how stupid you are for three hours better than it was before it's nice to be invited for once and you're like hey Liam do you want to come out
Starting point is 02:35:16 to a thing to promote you you're like yes I forgot about that first episode yeah no man it's been good times so we can have the Liam spin off show where he plays with dolls expect it
Starting point is 02:35:32 coming 2014 please look forward to it please get excited but yeah guys it's been a great year I'm glad the podcast has turned out as great as it has I'm glad the shows and the series are all going great I feel really good about this podcast I think the 2014 will be better
Starting point is 02:35:48 I think it might be a banner year really? I think good things are coming I would think so speaking of things like for one thing next week's podcast speaking of things
Starting point is 02:36:04 coming up today is the 24th today is Christmas Eve so either maybe later today or tomorrow like a special Christmas games episode
Starting point is 02:36:20 are we putting something up on Christmas? either than what I'm just meaning depending if I finish it in time it's either going to be the 24th or the 25th no shut up Matt's busy making videos and there will be a little something special in that
Starting point is 02:36:38 in that video I think everybody's going to enjoy I told people in the stream check the ends of that video there will be a thing and I'm going to see if I can set it up that anybody who sends in a mail
Starting point is 02:36:54 to superbestfriendcastatgmail.com might get a little gift themselves in return there might be a little gift some kind of auto mailing shenanigans there might be a little present on the returns an electronic present
Starting point is 02:37:10 exactly just cut the fucking bullshit next week's Mishinima episode will just be fucking walking dead walking dead season 2 and then we'll make we'll do something with it later once the current troubles
Starting point is 02:37:26 are resolved the current youtube-ish we are working through those troubles but don't want to rock the boat with too much weird bullshit Mishinima episode out of our hands it's your problem
Starting point is 02:37:42 I appreciate you cutting to the quick on that one because how the fuck else would they know right? guys did you know what's out? guys guys stop now you know where some of that comes from you'd think the walking dead 2 would have had
Starting point is 02:37:58 a little more build up but it was like yeah walking dead season 2 next month I was shocked when it came out and I didn't realize that it had come out I was more shocked when it wasn't announced at the VGX's like they announced borderlines
Starting point is 02:38:14 and that's cool but damn despite the fact that you guys did the first walking dead after it came out completed now you don't get a choice no we have to we stab to death in the streets you will be more worse
Starting point is 02:38:30 more worse Merry Christmas come on back next week in another episode of the super press broadcast you you you
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