Castle Super Beast - SBFC 023: Birthing Scars in Glorious 4K
Episode Date: January 14, 2014This weeks episode is brought to us by murder boners and awful drumrolls. We talk about Link's theoretical cartoon voice, 24/7 wrestling channels, Broken Age episode 1, SHAQFIGHTER and tutorials! Got ...a question for us? Send it to: superbestfriendcast@gmail.com
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It's not just that there's a group, but it's one of those titles that's
so easy to casually pick up for like a family member that's really interesting.
They're like, as a good example, like those are dated to release alongside Halo games.
Yeah, this same day.
And they don't get crushed, people pick them up alongside Halo.
And they're also reduced priced by like $10 or $20, usually when they're brand new.
Do the sales spike during hunting season?
Can we correlate the number of deaths in beer?
Yeah, dad's hunting season spikes throughout the entire world.
I wouldn't think so.
I don't know.
You people just get really hype on that.
They just go, it's their shooting shit.
No, you just go out and start shooting shit.
Drop during hunting season because people can go out and do real murder.
Yeah.
But then you're not.
A bambi.
But you want to practice.
They got your murder.
Yeah, you practice your skills.
You practice in the non-hunting season, get your murder bonners super, super, yeah, super
feiny murder.
Okay.
And then you go out in the wilderness and use it to kill deer.
See, in the dangerous hunts one, you're supposed to kill for revenge, right?
Vamy.
Yeah.
Diamond dick.
Diamond dick.
Throbbing.
You're supposed to kill for revenge.
But then there's tons of random game that's just, ooh, I'm an animal.
And you're like, go play him.
And then you get XP from it.
I'm like, but that's not revenge.
That's not our way.
All animals are the same.
Don't worry, they eat all the animals at the end.
Does it even give you like a little like red number or like a sad face where like you
shouldn't have killed that?
No, you just get a little drumroll.
I love those drums.
Did you rip that?
Do we have another sample yet?
I keep forgetting to do it, but I'll get it.
Because we need that.
Only in that one game.
No, we bought this expensive sample machine all for the podcast and we're waiting for
that one sample to put on all the buttons.
We can't use it until we get that drumroll.
Exactly.
The sound of animal murder.
It's episode 23.
That was an awkward pause.
Wasn't it 21 last time?
Yeah, it was 21 last time.
Super fucked up.
Oh no.
Because you were fucked up.
You fucked up.
You fucked up.
No, because after the Christmas cast, we did that one after New Year.
We were all too drunk to make.
We super forgot about that one.
I forgot.
It was called something.
Skycrimes.
Skycrime.
That was a good name.
That was the secret podcast.
It was not, but it might as well be.
The podcast that Time and Us forgot.
It wasn't.
It's all dated.
It's up on the channel.
I'm not sure why people are listening right now, but no.
Yeah.
Do you see that picture of the one guy that has all of the podcasts queued up because
he hasn't started them yet?
That's a long week.
That's a long super week.
Have we hit 24 hours of us talking yet?
Likely.
Oh yeah, for sure.
Yeah.
Probably within 10 episodes.
Within 12 episodes for sure.
That's math kids.
The first episode was an hour that we went through sometimes.
Yeah.
I hope that our podcast turns out to be really good background sex music.
Yeah, yeah.
That's what we want.
It's like, hey honey.
This is our aspiration.
This is to super best friend cast Future Sex Sound.
Future Sex Love Sound.
You want to do it while listening to Wally Go Nuts about biker mice?
Is there any other way?
Are Pat or Pat loses mind about FM10?
No, no.
Imagine you have a couple and they have like Barry Manilow or like Plain or something
or like, you know, like Little Richard.
Yeah.
And that's when it goes, turn that shit off.
Put on super best friend cast, man.
Splash Mountain.
I'm telling you.
We're going to Splash Mountain.
Jeez.
Ew.
Rick Flair, he used to say that all the time.
He's like, we're going to Splash Mountain.
When did he stop?
That's too bad.
After he became a mummy, he was afraid of liquid.
We have to push giant nose versus mummy for WrestleMania.
One of the first recorded words in history was Splash Mountain.
Splash Mountain is a phrase that just scares the shit out of me for some reason.
There's cuneiform for it.
I'm telling you.
What does that look like?
Just like a mountain with like a little wave coming off of it?
It's got a little happy face next to it.
There you go.
There's a little scratchy old guy doing test, test, like the first recording ever in the background.
You're just here, whoa.
I like the idea of Rick Flair being throughout all of history's most pivotal moments.
Yeah.
Like the first phone call with Alexander Graham Bell, calling his butler.
And just Rick Flair in the background.
I'm liking the first, what was that thing called?
Morse code.
Morse code, the first Morse code.
Don't you, oh, oh, oh, oh.
It's so well Jackson is fighting with Rick Flair.
Yes.
Oh man.
Save Vengeance.
They have the paper out.
It worked.
It's just a big dash.
Exactly.
Pat, how was your week, man?
It's been a while since we've met up and done this shit.
That's been a week.
I know, but it feels like more.
Dude, I didn't do nothing, man, except play a shit ton of prevention.
As you should.
The PC version came out and it's awesome.
Okay.
I had, I basically, I sat down and I said, I'm going to see how well this runs.
Did you do the release?
And then I just released the whole game.
Did you bank I it?
What?
Did you put it in like unlimited Zandatsu mode?
What?
No.
You can cut forever?
No.
Unlimited Zandatsu mode is just the original console settings.
And you can tone it down if you want, which I actually did.
You get a better frame rate after like tons of cuts.
But yeah, no, I sat down to play it for like 20 minutes and beat the whole game and got
all the hidden items and all the health upgrades.
There you go.
Because no, I was talking to my friend today about it and he's like, yeah, you can go to
thousands of pieces.
Yeah.
No, you can turn it way up from the default setting.
I guess, but I never do that.
If you don't like your frame rate.
I always do one cut and then Zandatsu.
Yeah, it's literally just because.
Yeah.
I only ever do just one on the geckos.
Okay.
You can hold it straight down.
No, no, I just hit truck.
We just cut the single slice, yeah.
Did you guys see that video of Jet Shroom Sam beating the Ray in 30 seconds?
Yeah, I did.
Sick.
I didn't go check that out.
That sounds awesome.
30 second kill.
I could probably do it.
He does it once and gets a rank C and goes, fuck that, backs it up and gets an S.
Yeah.
Well, let's get a story right off while you're talking about that.
Were you online when you played it?
Yeah, I was.
Okay.
Did you have any troubles ever noticing trying to play it offline by any chance?
I didn't try and play it offline.
Because that was a bit of a shit story.
I am familiar with the shit story.
A little bit.
In which it came out and people went, yay, Revengeance!
Why the fuck can't I play this offline?
Is this DRM?
Apparently not.
Yeah, apparently it was a big impact bug.
It appears to be a bug with a return value from the Steam API which crashes the game.
I think it would be weird if a Japanese developer released its Japanese game on the PC and there
wasn't a thing like this.
I feel like almost every single one has something.
This is the exact reason why the Dark Souls guys over in Namco Bandai, sorry, from Software
used games for Windows Live.
Even though everyone hated it, that they used it, this exact kind of error of what's a weird
API on PC, I don't know, broke.
But the good news is they fixed that shit immediately because it was not an intentional DRM thing.
Oh, is it fixed already?
Yeah, it's super fixed.
Because I just read they were fixing it.
It's great that they fixed it.
Yeah, they came out immediately and said, yo, that's a bug.
We fucked it up.
We do not intend for this at all.
I should know the fix turned around so quick.
When you beat Revengeance and look at the credits, you find out that there were only four people
assigned to a PC version full time.
Not surprising, which means that it must have been a dirt fucking cheap port and also explains
why it took so fucking long.
So people who were preparing their SimCity Revengeance mashup, like pictures, just relaxed.
Your hate boners have been thwarted.
Okay.
Okay.
Thwarted.
Matt.
Swatted aside.
All right.
There you go.
How was your week, man?
I got a lot of work done with all our MAG Fest stuff.
It was a productive week.
It was a productive week.
And I got, I'm waiting, I'm waiting on Play-To-Gripes and another artist to finish the title card
for the two games that you and I did that didn't go up on the weekend.
Okay.
Can't talk.
It's PsyOps and it's 50 cent blood on the sand.
So those are going to be pretty good.
Wow.
Don't kiss and tell, Matt.
Geez.
Well, every time I don't say a thing, you want someone complains that we don't reveal anything.
But no, it was intended to go up right around the same time as the others during the MAG
Fest time, but whatever, there's some cool shit being made for it.
So fine.
Yeah.
And I kind of, I didn't really finish, finish, but I finished the final boss of Mario 3D World,
I guess.
Okay.
Is that like five worlds before the end?
Yeah.
Three.
Four.
Three?
Four worlds before the end.
Four worlds.
Well, I saw the credits.
Yeah.
But it was a good boss.
It was an excellent boss.
Almost feels like slightly platinum in yours.
It was, it was that grand and bombastic.
Like there's never been a mart.
Like it was obviously.
And I got to finish that because I don't know what the fuck they're talking about.
It was incredibly cool.
Yeah.
It's, it's not.
Do you just jump on Bowser's face?
No.
It's really cool.
Bowser.
Yeah.
You do sick cat combos.
Well, the fact that you have a sort of like, maybe I don't want to say what it is.
Yeah.
It's like, okay, hold on.
No, it's really good.
Right on.
It's not hard.
But it's really cool.
But it's one of the coolest Bowser Mario fights I've ever seen.
Yeah.
If not the coolest.
It's not the coolest.
They like the galaxy ones.
Otherwise they're the best ones.
Yeah.
Functional.
Yeah.
Well, the music too.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Fucking yes.
Yeah.
And I guess I played a bunch more killer angst.
And I saw that they just straight up released Jago's.
Unreleased skin.
Unreleased skin.
Yes.
And now I'm not sure if you saw, but Max put up a video today.
One of Jago's, his classic skins accessories are bits of Voltron on his hands and on his,
because they're tigers.
Of course.
Right.
So he puts up a video where a guy just creams him and now Max is at level 25.
Gladiator.
What?
His ranking is level 25.
Geez.
Because he did his week of thunder and like that dropped him down to like 13 or 12.
So it's a video of him just getting bodied and he's got one sliver of health left on
his energy bar and then comes back and the guy's still on his first energy bar and in
her cut he has pictures of Voltron's transformation so you never give up.
You can do it Voltron.
Jago.
Are you sure that's not just a desync?
No.
Because I don't have to fix in the patch hole.
Oh.
Really?
Awesome.
That's great.
See that's why I did that snarky thing.
I know that you would catch me.
Yeah you would.
Killeristic would look good.
Yeah.
Fuck you.
Because it's such a good game.
The entire gaming press agrees with you Pat.
Cool.
Because they're so great.
So what are we basing this on?
What is anything based on then?
What am I fighting for?
What are we all fighting for?
Well personally I had a fucking busy week.
I bet you did.
Lots of shit going on.
Why'd you skip lamb?
It was really cool.
Did skip lamb?
He just went to a circle.
No.
He's just decided not to do a circle but instead a weird Z shape.
Well I have a reason and you might have a reason.
Oh yeah go on.
I think I know the reason.
Anyway we'll get there.
What is answering Pat's question?
You think I don't plan this shit?
I super think you don't plan this shit.
No he's got a pie chart right there.
I don't know what it means.
He probably stole it.
This week goes a lot of shit.
Right off the bat I want to say shout out to my new buddy.
Mr. Slowbeef.
Because me and him chilled.
We did the little Retsu talk episode.
That should be going up Wednesday.
So be sure to check out Retsu talk.
How much shit do you talk about us?
Mad shit.
Awesome.
I can't wait.
Slowbeef right now he's like...
Ah he thought we were buddies.
Ah that's awkward.
Just like John Trump.
And then he reads so much of the J.O. session.
Can you not put that out there?
No but it was good stuff.
And honestly if you haven't just checked out the Retsu talk podcast in general.
It's a good podcast.
It's fun stuff.
Slowbeef and Diabetes.
So yeah look forward to that.
Also I spent all of yesterday pretty much.
All of yesterday.
All of yesterday.
Almost all of yesterday subtitling the magfest video.
That was my busy fucking day and that's done.
If you haven't watched it like some people in the room.
Now's the time.
You should check out the next time.
I was too busy watching other things.
Man.
Well I didn't watch it either.
Thanks for supporting me.
Don't just get on Liam.
I told you I tried to but there was no subs.
Yeah okay.
And then I complained that there was no subs.
You're waiting for horrible subs.
I'm waiting for horrible subs.
Just to get on the case.
As someone who wasn't there.
I was like oh I'm interested to see what they said about me when I wasn't there.
Yeah exactly.
I clicked on it and be like I can't hear anything.
And then turned it up the fuck off.
So I'm glad there are subtitles now.
Well Pi Stealer subs have done their job.
That's sub name.
What shitty subs.
It's out there now.
Do you have translators notes?
They didn't translate the original English as it was intended.
In this sub they call Titan something else.
Yeah.
Also.
Eotins my ass.
Also jumped in after that got fixed with the subs.
Jumped into the chat.
The stream.
Yes.
And that was kind of fun because I was in there for a bit talking to the peeps.
And on my way out.
They're watching what?
They're watching the panel I believe.
The panel.
That's what I said.
Yeah they're watching the panel.
And I was checking out the subs with them and stuff.
So you had like a mini digital panel within the panel?
Yeah.
And at the end of it as I'm on my way out who shows up but fucking the realist mad over
here.
Oh you're so mad.
And I was like oh didn't invite this fucker in.
Yeah and I walked in and was like what's he doing in my house.
Yeah and then you proceeded to destroy the channel with your ego.
Not really.
Yeah you did.
But you weren't there for that.
Because I heard about it and he posted after because I left and then he posted on wherever
hey everyone come ask me questions in the channel and it crashed.
Good job man.
Good times.
Good job.
Do you want to tell me the truth or do you want to save the whole channel?
I thought that we were based on a house of lies and cards.
Well no because the deal is that the house of lies and cards.
Lies and cards.
We don't tell the truth on this channel.
Let me tell the truth anyway.
No.
Too bad.
Deal with it.
I asked if it was okay.
You flew too close to the sun.
I asked if it was okay.
Let other people tell the truth.
Don't spread your lies in other people's mouths.
Wow.
Wow.
Wow.
I asked if it was okay to invite people and no one knew that Watch Together is held
together by duct tape and you can't ban people so some fucker by the way, I'm calling you
out if you know, some fucker named Dive Kick and I feel bad that Dive Kick sucks because
all he wrote was once.
Oh.
One's enter, one's enter, one's enter.
You know who that is?
That's the spirit of stream.
Right.
But you can't ban or kick anyone.
You have to ask people to leave.
Did you ask him to leave?
No.
Everyone just, well everyone, everyone, when he was doing it, everyone just left.
Right.
Then came back 10 minutes later.
And he was, sure.
But yeah, we were watching Japanese rustling.
Dude, there's a Japanese rustler called the Rainmaker and his stick is that he throws
money.
Right on.
That's great.
And he has strippers on poles like on his entrance ramp, it's nuts.
Yeah.
Oh.
Anyway, it was really fun though after that.
Yeah.
Calm down.
And you know, I kind of, I made some magfest promises to like read some stuff that people
were saying to check out.
So, you know, back into JoJo, Steal Ball Run, gonna update you guys later.
I was reading some of the boring Jeff Keely Twitter.
Oh yeah.
Before it got dismantled.
I thought it was real until I actually read it.
Yeah, I know.
It got pulled down, unfortunately.
But there's some guy who made a genius Twitter called Boring Jeff K. And it was just Jeff
Keely's like, hey, some games are great, but others are not.
My favorite was Say What You Want Nintendo Makes Great Video.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah.
Just the most like-
Generic.
Like-
The most banal statement.
But Tice Fall comes out March 19th.
Pre-order it.
Yeah.
Pre-order it.
It was fantastic.
And it's a level of-
Stupid meta.
It's so dumb.
And they're all really subtle.
None of them, I read while I'm like, come on.
It's inside the inside of an inside joke.
Also everyone, thanks for following.
Re-tweet, thanks for following.
Yeah.
And they're like, that's great.
That's genius.
Yeah.
And the other-
Last one was big.
That was probably the real Jeff Keely trying to escape.
It's possible.
A moment of brief.
The other last little bit was I checked out the pilot episode of Wizard Barristers.
Jesus Christ.
Yeah.
Liam made him.
He watched 10 minutes of that earlier today.
He made you watch 10 minutes of that.
And as I mentioned to Liam earlier, because you know me now.
I know you now.
You can predict this.
You're a person.
There's three things I liked and there's three things I disliked.
What if they were really strongly?
Liam, I want you to take a full on guess at what I like to dislike about this.
Starting with the likes, you liked the art, the music, the quality, the premise.
Those aren't free!
But like, you liked everything except for the three dislikes.
And the three dislikes.
The probably the biggest one was the frog making the one scene the worst scene in the whole
episode.
Okay.
Where he gropes her.
That was the worst scene.
I wish it wasn't in there.
Wow, wait a minute.
Wading off finishing the rest of that episode.
Probably that 80% of the cast is girls.
And like cutesy girls.
And if not that then just the main character being the way she is.
Okay.
And the third one was it CG.
I don't know if you're picking it up though.
The third one was a bit more subtle.
Okay, not bad.
You more or less nailed it.
Was it the theme music?
No, the pacing.
The pacing was way too fast.
It was fast.
Too hard read and rushed.
Animation budget was great.
World established.
Cool.
All that stuff was fine.
Everything was really cool.
But yeah, sorry.
Fuck your cutesy main character.
That's annoying as the shit.
What about the part where it's about wizards who make coffee?
Not barista.
Right.
Did you have problems with the content of the show?
Well as I'm saying, the actual setting and world is established and it's a cool world.
And they have a budget and they're using it.
So that's nice.
And then they use the little Moai character that they give you upskirt shots of constantly
that you're like you.
And then they take all sorts.
Every time she's on the motorcycle.
The frog is actually Norio Wakamoto.
My fucking favorite voice actor.
Is that Megazawa?
Yes.
I totally told it.
It's Megazawa.
And they take him and they fucking grade him.
And he's great.
He's great at what he does.
And he does that stupid shit.
It was the worst bit.
What a sober voice.
What a soothing voice he has.
Yeah.
And in general you're kind of like with the whole like the girls and what not just a
problem with that.
It's just that they're kind of pushing the pick your favorite out of the harem.
Definitely.
So it reminds me a lot of read or die.
Okay.
I know what you mean.
I know what you mean.
Liam showed us 10 minutes of it.
Well Pat's watching it.
Pat just goes I knew it.
This is a fucking magical girl show.
And Liam goes no it isn't.
Just about then the title is going to appear.
I'm like it's going to fucking say magical girl show.
That's the actual name of it.
No it's wizard barista.
What the fuck it just means magical people.
You know that it's going to be the kind of show where you give it another two episodes.
There's not going to be much.
The fourth episode is going to have this ridiculous action sequence.
It's going to be hype.
Apparently there's a light novel.
I didn't know about that.
Okay.
And apparently it's really good.
Also minor detraction point but like anytime I hear an OP like that.
Like I kind of just go can you do something different.
Sure but like I don't.
I mean I watch it the first time and skip it usually.
You know whatever.
It's like alright we get it J-pop it's fine.
But I use this transition into your week sir.
So I watched a lot of shit.
I usually don't watch a lot of stuff but all the anime started.
But before anime.
I knew all the anime started because somebody told me man.
I can't wait for all of Liam's bad opinions on the new season of anime.
Oh I'm glad.
Prepare for bad opinions.
But first I watched a lot of awesome games done quick.
Those guys are amazing every week.
Those guys are freaks.
No they're fantastic.
No I didn't mean that negatively.
Oh good.
Blind playthroughs of punch out.
Yeah.
Okay I will cross another topic off the list.
Blind playthroughs of punch out.
Those fuckers made over a million dollars.
That's awesome.
That's amazing.
I've been watching them for like three years.
Yeah I don't think they've ever broken that.
No this is the record for...
No this beat Desert Bus.
Okay.
Like this was the record.
I don't believe you.
It did though.
But nothing can beat Desert Bus.
Nothing can beat Desert Bus in my heart.
No.
Anyway they do two things a year.
They do awesome games done quick and summer games done quick.
And they're fantastic all the time.
Shit he games done poorly.
I know I.
Done slow.
So I watched that came up with slow beef was like this is the only example of like
a camera on the on the player.
Yeah.
That you want.
And you want.
Yeah exactly.
You know what I mean because it shows you the room and the environment and everyone
coming in and leaving.
It's great.
Yeah.
So I watched that and that was fantastic as usual.
Gonna keep watching that because I missed a lot of shit.
And yeah anime.
I didn't watch everything because I just didn't have enough time.
Junivio season two is great.
But Pat really didn't like the opening.
There's a certain something about it that I don't know and it just kind of puts me
off.
I'm not sure.
So it makes you feel like a pedophile.
No.
Wizard Barrister is super awesome.
Like potentially animated the season.
Really.
Did you watch Space Dandy?
That's the one thing I didn't watch.
How am I the only person who's fucking up to date on Space Dandy?
I have both of them downloaded but I just haven't watched it yet.
I don't know.
I'm making videos.
What you do get around to it?
Watch it subbed.
Not dubbed.
We'll get to that later.
I'm gonna re-watch it subbed and come back with my impressions.
Some people said the dub was better.
Yeah.
And then the creator said the dub was shit.
There's a reason.
We'll get around to it.
I watched like eight other animes and the only other one that I think was worth anything
was Wake Up Girls which is probably the best idol anime that's ever been made because
it's different from all the rest of them.
So that's it.
Yeah.
Anime.
I'm gonna stop talking about it because you're all glaring knives at me.
No, I'm only glaring knives because he said it's the best idol anime and I don't know
what any of that means and I just assume it's creepy as fuck.
No, I mean it's about-
Is there a Mr. Producer?
There is.
Okay.
Sure.
What about the sex challenge?
I was gonna say, Liam, like if I asked you how was your week, what'd you do?
And then you tell me, I'm a shit bad if I go ugh.
No, you're not.
No, you're not.
I guess I'm a big shit bad.
You should do that right before you even finish the question about Liam.
Liam, what'd you do?
That would be real.
Hey, I forgot one thing.
We saw Anchorman 2.
Yeah, we did.
Oh man, that was good.
Bit late to the party on that.
Bit late to the party, but as a huge Anchorman fan, I wouldn't say it's better, but I laugh.
Huge laughs.
Some of the most offensive jokes.
Dude, it's so hard to be better than Anchorman.
I should say that.
But like, you're wearing an Anchorman shirt.
I am.
What the fuck?
Yeah.
No, I didn't see Anchorman 2.
I'm a bad person.
Huge belly laughs from second one.
Yeah, no.
I think we can say, what was the first one?
The first one was like, the tooth fairy's exposed breast was making the child upset.
I wanted to say that there's two scenes that should have cut.
You saw them?
There was two scenes that should have cut.
It should have been a dinner scene between Ron and a lady.
It should have been cut because there was no real point to it and it didn't result in
anything.
It was just predictable jokes.
And the scene in the RV, the RV flips was a funny scene, but it went on way too long
and again, didn't have anything to do with it.
Can't wait for that deleted footage though.
My favorite joke was the horribly, horribly offensive one about, I can't remember his
name, who joins that club with his friends of adult males, including O.J. Simpson.
Oh, right, right, yeah.
There was that joke in there.
One of the most offensive jokes I've heard in the movie.
Oh boy.
We're going to call us those lady killers.
Nice.
But that final.
I mean, terrible.
So bad.
That final battle scene though.
Oh man.
That's all I'm saying.
The final battle scene.
Well, you know there's going to be one.
Is it better than wonderful 101s?
It's close.
It's close.
It's close.
There's more cameos.
That's true.
Yeah.
So things going on in the world of news and things.
No thoughts though.
We're boring now.
Now for the world.
Right.
So let's start with the world of wrestling.
Oh yeah.
The WWE network has been announced.
And it's ridiculous.
It's 24-7.
It's good.
Shit's clown shoes.
Bustle media.
Now, this sounds awesome and everyone kind of was asking us all over the place, what
do you guys think?
Are you hype for whatever?
I just want to put it out there.
Like, I think I can almost speak for all of us and say that, yeah, this is a great idea.
I'm not going to watch.
But my one concern is that you're going to get like 75% reruns throughout most of the
week.
Oh, I doubt it.
Because you're going to rerun old shit.
I saw the news, which is the same news that you saw, but then someone found like a breakdown
of what they're like fully doing.
And it's like, we have 16,000 hours of entertainment that is set to go on launch.
Like, your point might still stand, but they said everything like we have the entire WCW
library, WCW library, NWA, which I was like, really?
Like fucking Dre?
Yeah.
Okay.
If you feed in the entire televised history of wrestling into this machine, it was like
$10 a month.
Yeah.
Something ridiculous.
And you can say to me...
No, it's $10 for six months.
Wasn't it?
No, $10 a month.
$60.
And you said to me, Pat, hey, Pat, you didn't catch up from this year to this year.
Spend a month just watching 95 to 2001.
A couple of hours will be dedicated to these eras, right?
Absolutely.
And eras and stables are...
But there's also an on-demand portion where you just go, I want to watch this pay-per-view
for whatever.
But you'd have to think as well for business purposes, they're going to be pushing the
current storylines.
Not exactly, because I read that you can't get raws and pay-per-views the night they
show up, the TV rights have to be on for a week or so, and then after that, but you
can get...
Wait, wait, wait.
I was under the assumption, maybe this is naive, you'd be able to say, I want to see
the episode of Raw from July 21st, 2004.
Well, there's an on-demand portion, but it didn't say exactly how it worked.
No, it should be everything.
It should be everything.
How would you categorize that?
By date?
I guess.
So, you know...
I want to be able to hit play on, like, 1981 and haven't run all of wrestling.
No, I just want an attitude-era button on my Xbox 360.
The Atatard button.
To be fair, though, it kind of sucks, because this won't be available in Canada until six
months after it comes out of the US.
But you know, like I said, you don't want to end up with the Oprah Winfrey network.
The reason I think it's cool is because watching wrestling is expensive.
If you're going to do it legit?
If you're going to keep up with it legit?
It's expensive.
You want to watch a pay-per-view that's relatively recent, while pay-up, besides that, you need
a satellite subscription and stuff.
Yes, I would like that.
You need to have a television...
Well, no, but like...
A place to put it?
No, but let's not be silly.
You don't have a cable box.
I know what you mean.
I do not.
I do not.
Just to watch wrestling for any of us, like to current or old stuff, because there's like
a WWE channel.
There's a channel on TV.
We don't have a TV.
We don't have it because we need the fucking cable box or whatever.
Imagine if we could watch Legends of Wrestling whenever we wanted.
I'd watch whatever.
I'd have to fucking fight to find it on YouTube or Daily Motion or whatever.
All content should be a la carte streaming.
This should be interesting when it happens, and particularly when it happens in our country.
Yeah, and I mean, I think we're all going to give it a go, frankly.
In a shot that's cheap enough.
For sure.
Unless I can watch random raw episodes from whenever I'm not going to give it a go.
Well, Chris Benoit's back.
Did you catch that?
Yeah, Chris Benoit's back.
They're not...
They're putting him back in.
You brought him back.
You brought him back.
Yourself.
Pat's making this face like he did it.
I did it?
You did it.
Yay!
To be fair, I love that song.
Why is for Luke Wave?
That dude was a good wrestler.
Shame about the family murdering.
Well, like the crossface is a little favorite submission cover.
That'll put Sully on your name as a good wrestler.
Just look at OJ.
What happened to him?
He was funny.
Yeah, for those that don't know, yeah.
We didn't actually dig up Chris Benoit, just WWE said they're going to put him back in.
There's nothing to hide.
Apparently there's going to be a disclaimer saying, don't murder your family.
This is a video.
This is a video.
This is a video.
This is a video.
This is a video.
This is a video.
This is a video.
His jaw is dropped in the eternal note.
I mean, you like, awaits Benoit.
On the other side!
I also want to get into something that I forgot to talk about last week.
I want to try a little segment called Plague Wants to Know.
What does Plague want to know?
Every time Plague has asked us a question individually off the podcast, it has always
resulted in something interesting.
If not broadcastable.
Yeah.
So we'll see where this goes, or even if he's down to try another question.
A deeper, darker look.
But his first question is, if they made a new Zelda cartoon, should Link ever talk?
Absolutely.
No.
He should talk exactly the same and go, excuse me.
No, I think it's way more hilarious if he doesn't at all.
Okay, wait.
Everyone else talks.
Yes.
But he just goes, ha?
Yes.
That is my answer to that.
But I think if you wanted to have a more serious show, yeah, you'd have to have a talk.
No, but that's already a film.
I know, but when I think about it, I think of a legit anime, like an action anime about
a Q&A, and I'm like, yeah, I wanted to talk at that point.
So I'd say it depends on how long, how many episodes.
It super depends, yeah.
Right?
Because if this is a six episode or three episode short series, then no, you can tell
a story with Hyrule in the background and keep him quiet.
The world around him and the characters around him are telling the tale.
Here's what you do.
Here's what you do.
You have Link not be able to talk, and you have Navi say everything for him, including
the explanation.
Oh, you want Navi?
That he cannot talk.
No, I think Zelda, like for a legit reason, I think like for a legit show, you actually
have Zelda be the main character, and Link just be her like her silent protector.
The issue is that if you have a long running series, if you go for the 52 episodes or whatever,
oh, that's too much.
That's too much.
Exactly, because then you have to throw character traits on Link, and you're like, oh, Link's
hungry all the time.
No.
Do that.
He eats so much food, and he gets all blushy when girls get close to him.
Okay, all right, all right, all right, everyone stay with me here.
Do you remember those cable TV things?
I had one.
No, you lost me.
But it was a remote control, and there would be some channel that has interactive shit,
like little games, and stuff you can play with a remote control.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So imagine you're watching this Zelda show, and then it says like, oh no, Link, a lot
of fucking, the Hyrule Castle's on fire, and then you have to select what Link can do,
and there's just a button that's like a Hayao button.
But you want Quantum Dream to make it?
Yes.
No, you want that.
Yeah.
You want a new fill of CD-I Zelda game?
Yes, that's right.
Yeah, okay.
Because it's just, it's just like.
That sounds fun, though.
Whenever you have to add interesting quote unquote interesting traits to a main character
who's supposed to be vanilla, they can't be actual traits.
Well, and he already has so many tropes associated with him anyway.
It's like.
Hates pots.
Lady killer.
Lady killer.
Cuts grass.
Hates pigs.
Steals rupees.
Hates chickens.
Loves milk.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
No, and you have the running gag where every time he sees a chicken, he just stares at it
like.
Yeah.
Exactly.
Peter Griffin, that shit.
Good question, play.
Yeah, yeah.
Not as creepy as I was.
So if you want to fast-track a question to us, become an animator.
A super creepy animator.
Hey guys, did you buy any chance?
Check out Sony's 4K CES 4K Press 4K Conference 4K 4K.
Yes.
I did.
Hey, you know what's hot?
Did you check it out in 4K?
Wow.
You know what's hot this year at CES?
What?
Wearable computers.
Yeah.
You want to be a big iPhone sized watch?
Hey, we call them wearables.
Oh, God.
I am.
I watched it and I thought it was, it was cool.
It was a good presentation and like that one projector they showed, the 4K, like huge
wall projector.
Sure.
I saw that and I said, that's fucking awesome.
I want one of those.
What are you going to do with it?
Watch your 4K pictures.
No.
But I said, I want one of those.
I mean, I want one of those.
I mean, watch the National Geographic Channel because that's all that's available.
A BBC show.
I said, I want one of those.
And then I saw the price tag and it was $35,000 to $40,000.
And I said, this is the goddamn consumer electronics show.
What the fuck?
It's in the title.
Consumer electronics.
Consumer action cam videos in 4K.
Well, you'll be the envy of all of your friends.
In all fairness, like Sony's starting to shoot their stuff in 4K.
I know, but the whole reason 1080p came about was because that's the resolution that old
movies actually had.
Sure.
But do you remember last year when, what was your word last year, 3D?
Yeah.
3D TVs.
Hey, everyone knows a 3D TV, right?
And uses their 3D TVs with their 3D content, right?
Oh, no, wait.
It was a fucking colossal failure.
You need a new word to push.
But I mean, fortunately, 4K doesn't require glasses.
Sure.
But it required $35,000.
Well, that was the top of the line, yes.
And nothing comes in 4K.
Like the biggest problem of 4K is the fact that everything, almost everything for a long
time is going to be native in 1080p, right?
So why the fuck would you get a TV that has a higher native resolution that would make
anything in 1080p look way worse?
I mean, at the very least.
Nothing's going to look worse.
At the very least, absolutely.
Non-native resolutions absolutely look worse on a TV.
Because prior to this, I don't know if you saw those experimental 4K screens that were
just 4, 1080p.
Yeah.
Things seem to be fixed together.
That's not 4K.
And that's not 4K.
No.
4K is 2560 by 1440.
Well, no, it's actually 4K.
There's 1080p, and then there's 2K, and then there's 4K.
This is the problem.
So they're rounding up the number?
They actually send certain that that spec changes depending on what manufacturer.
I have seen 4K referred to as 2560 plus 1440, because when you add the 2, you get 4K.
Well, here's the thing.
1080p is also considered 2K within the, you know.
It's fucking so stupid.
It's so arbitrary.
It sounds like the fucking Jaguar, which had two 32-bit processors.
They just fucking sat in it.
Fuck you, Jaguar.
No, their conference was...
Wow.
So remember HD DVDs and Blu-ray?
I do.
Blu-ray only won out because one movie studio said, okay, we're going with Blu-ray.
No, it was pornography.
I was gonna say no.
They won because porn.
Well, no.
For the mass consumers, it was like, you know, tech sites or whatever, and say, oh, this
movie company jumped to Blu-ray.
So all these other movie companies jumped to Blu-ray.
But yes, the undercurrent battle was where is Wicked Dreams gonna put their latest hit?
And Pat, it's birthing scars.
You gotta see those birthing scars in glorious form.
I need to laser off these asshole polyps.
But the fact that that just barely won and it's like, now what is there?
We can't possibly make people think that there's something even better than Blu-ray.
So let's just make this fucking thing.
But the problem with that is the Blu-ray didn't even win.
Fucking streaming won.
And streaming 4K with data caps and internet speed in North America?
Are you fucking crazy?
I just got a cancel my Netflix subscription because I watched every show on Netflix.
And not every show, which is every show that mattered.
And even Netflix would not even get to like a real 720p.
It would get up to like a kind of faked 720p.
Did you have American or Canadian?
I had American.
Okay, because Americans...
Has more shit.
No, but Canadian doesn't even...
Canadian by default does not play in 720p.
I'm sure there's some good shit you didn't watch.
Like what?
Did you watch Luther?
I have Luther otherwise.
Okay.
Whatever.
There's probably something.
England.
But no.
Chip.
Our garbage internet is gonna mean like that's not gonna work for us for a while.
People are still on Comcast.
Who is 4K 4?
It's for the people, for the poor assholes about resolution.
I am an asshole about resolution.
And I don't give a fuck about 4K.
It's for the Sony investors.
And if we're gonna be on this, I need to say there's something even dumber than 4K,
and it's fucking curved televisions.
That is the stupidest fucking thing in the world.
We want you to sit six feet away from an 85 inch television.
Who the fuck is gonna sit six feet away from an 85 inch television?
People from the future, idiot.
Now here's the thing.
That's one of those things that sounds ridiculous.
Because it is.
But I need to do it first to know for sure.
To find out.
Like the Hobbit movie.
You don't know until you're sitting in front of it.
When you hear six feet away from an 85 inch screen.
Okay?
Mads, that is twice the size of Mads.
At the approximate distance you're sitting right now.
Have you ever been to Disney World?
Yeah, it is.
No.
Okay.
Because Disney World has all kinds of experiments.
You went to Disney World?
Yeah.
Twice.
You went to Disney World?
Not me.
Not us.
We didn't invite you guys.
You didn't go.
Disney World, right?
Hey.
We both went.
It was great.
You remember Epcot?
Epcot's so sick.
Damn.
Amen.
I always come to Disney World.
We're going here.
Okay.
So anyway.
There's also kinds of experimental screens that you can check out in different rocks.
There's a whole way of the future or something like that.
And so on.
There's tons of them, trust me.
Yeah.
The nine eye with the nine screens attached.
The eight bananas.
So that's the kind of place where I've gotten a pseudo experience of like circular screens.
Yeah.
And there is something cool to the ends of your peripheral vision all being filled with
feasibility.
I totally get that.
There's something cool about that.
So I want to try this to grow.
But just from pure feasibility?
Yeah.
Never.
Never going to happen.
I just want to point out.
I think Sony's TV division, their main income is on high end like luxury class TVs.
Yeah.
I don't think it's on like lower end ones.
I don't have an assumption.
Like I'm pretty sure I actually.
Markups are probably super good on that stuff.
Well exactly.
Like they sell these $30,000 screens and they sell 10 of them.
It just seemed.
The way to eliminate all the benefit of a thin TV by making it curved so it takes away more
depth.
Also, what should we call it?
PlayStation now.
That's really cool.
Yeah.
That sounds cool but there's no details.
Well there is some details.
What do you want?
I want to know exactly how much it costs.
Well of course.
That's the one.
And what will be included.
That's the exact last thing you'll ever get.
But at E3 we're going to get that exact one.
Will it trample all over the Vita TV concept of streaming your shit.
Streaming your games and streaming everybody.
What are you talking about?
What are you talking about?
Vita TV can only stream PS4.
Okay.
Will you be able to.
No.
That's the end of it.
Vita TV can only stream PS4.
Vita TV is like an Apple TV box.
It can stream PS4.
PS4 from a different box in the house.
I can't do it from my PS3.
No.
No.
Oh shit.
You can only do remote play for PS3 titles that support remote play.
PS4 is globally supported.
PS3 it's title by title.
And then it lets you play Vita games.
So in fact this is a plus for the Vita TV.
And this is probably how they're going to push it in other regions.
Yeah.
Okay.
I totally thought that it would act the same as you could connect to Vita TV.
This is going to make the Vita TV a better product in fact.
Because the Vita TV will be an internet connected PS2 and PS3.
Yeah.
Plus if you have a PS4.
But if you don't then it's a Vita.
How are you going to get a PS4?
These are great.
Vita means life.
Exactly.
I just bought a white Vita.
Why?
They're really nice.
Because they just not re-listed and they're white.
Why do you need another one?
Because they're Vita.
Because they're phasing out.
To play what?
Because they're phasing out the OLED screens and one mind eventually goes.
You know what I can't wait to play in 4K?
Shaq Fu too.
Shaq Fighter.
So I don't even think this should be news.
Did you watch the video?
If it was delivered by anyone but Shaq.
Yeah.
I would believe it.
The way he says it it's super like is he joking?
Yeah.
Is he not?
That's the name.
It turns out that Shaq Fighter was a name that was registered.
It was here.
Plus there was some news story about this months ago.
Now Shaq Fu.
Someone said is this a new Shaq?
And Shaq Down came out the other day.
Yeah.
Shaq Down.
So I'm not right alongside Kazam too.
There you go.
It's Steel.
Steel too.
Jesus.
Those are the only Shaq.
Oh there's a blue steel or blue chips.
That's the movie.
It's talking about dicks?
No.
No.
It's a movie about Shaq and Neil being a basketball guy.
It has Nick Nolte in it.
I don't know.
Whatever.
Yeah.
That was like the most.
I was like is this a thing?
Maybe it's a thing.
I don't like Shaq.
Maybe the best fighting game.
Because I remember back in the day I saw an interview with him.
Where someone was saying how do you feel that Kobe Bryant has his own video game?
Was Kobe Bryant NBA courtside with Kobe Bryant?
Yeah.
And he goes that game's for Braves.
Well yeah.
But he cuts to Kobe Bryant.
He's just smiling.
Yeah that game's awesome.
Why would you?
Don't check out the whole song that Shaq recorded called Hey Kobe tell me how my ass tastes.
When did he record that?
He went up on stage.
I don't get why he's at a show.
And he sang everybody.
Did you ever?
You tell me how my ass tastes.
And he got the crowd to sing it with him.
And then afterwards the NYPD was so disgusted that they took away his ceremonial hat or whatever.
You can't be a member of the FDNY.
You can't be a member of the FDNY.
We love Kobe.
Don't talk shit about Kobe.
Kobe Bryant.
Yeah I'll believe that Shaq food thing when there's like I'm playing it.
No you won't.
Oh you know what?
Even then.
You might be right.
Also Bravely Default Gate 2.
Oh yeah.
Part 2 this week.
What?
What?
This is time in the form of Chibi Robo.
So you guys caught that Chibi Robo came out last week.
The controversy.
I was not familiar though.
To continue the censorship discussion.
The premise of this Chibi Robo is that you take pictures of certain things and they come into your game as things right?
There's a bit where it asks you to take a picture of a can.
Like a cola can or whatever.
Like a sweet sweet can.
And it pops into your game.
It's very sweet.
And it's got a little face on it.
And you got to run around it in circles to make it fall over right?
When you run around it in the Japanese one it's got a little cartoon butt on it.
The most innocuous cartoon butt.
Wow I totally called it.
There's a cartoon face on the can and then when you see it turns all the way around.
A little cartoon butt shows up.
And in the American and European version.
No Europe's not out yet.
In the American version they've removed the butt.
Oh no.
And so this demonstrates that I'm not nuts.
No I think this demonstrates how nuts you are.
I'm going to elaborate on that.
This demonstrates how nuts you are.
Because of how little this matters.
Last week I was saying I was worried more about the stuff I don't know is censored than the stuff I do know is censored.
And this just demonstrates how nuts Nintendo is about censoring stuff.
This is not worth fighting over.
No that means you're nuts.
You're like look look it's proof.
I was right.
Like who cares.
No it's just like look Nintendo is censoring the most innocuous little things.
Yeah okay.
How dumb is that.
It's dumb.
I agree with you.
It's dumb.
It's dumb.
But who cares.
Well again what I care about is the stuff I don't know is censored.
And I'm reading something that's just not what the original creator wanted.
If they keep censoring things that don't matter who cares.
But that's what I'm saying.
You don't know what the stuff is.
You got to think about it.
But we were just told what it was because we have the internet.
We weren't told.
Someone looked it up.
How many people are going to play through the whole game.
But Liam.
But Liam the fact that you immediately found out about this non like this tiny detail.
Please let me finish.
Yeah not let me finish.
This tiny detail that doesn't matter.
Do you think for a second that a significant detail would ever escape anyone's purview.
Well the difference is this is half an hour in a chibi robo.
I'm worried about you know 20 hours into Fire Emblem Cross Shin Megami Tensei.
Where there's like a big conversation about I don't know what.
Don't think about that because that's never coming out here.
They're never going to let things slide.
But you have to imagine there was like a focus group at some point.
Yeah exactly.
And like some mother was just like oh I don't like that.
There's a butt.
Yeah I don't like that at all.
Cover that up.
Do something about that.
Hands don't have butts.
You know what that makes it a better game.
The kids were snickering too hard.
And she's like no no no no we can't have that.
If this was 1993.
If we were doing this podcast in 1993 and we were recording it on like VHS tapes or something.
I don't know what we'd be doing.
And we'd be talking about this.
We'd be on the radio.
No no.
Would we be able to get this on the radio?
I don't think so.
Public access.
I don't know.
CB we'd be on CB.
CB radio.
And if you said the same thing you'd be doing now I'd be like yeah totally we'll never know.
But in the advent of the internet we'll never not know.
But even if I know it doesn't mean I can play the original version.
Sure.
But you might die tomorrow.
Wait a second.
Wait a second.
You're the one who keeps telling me that I can import games and just play them with no
problem even though I can't speak the language.
Pat you know.
You can play the original version.
No no.
But you know I'm not serious about that.
You know.
You don't want to get dirtbagged.
No.
You know what I see this as?
I see this as a cultural equivalent of why in the Berserk anime no one has genitals.
No one has genitals in Berserk because whoever ran the anime or Mira had involvement they
didn't want scenes in which characters were walking around naked to be dominated by people
looking at their junk.
Right.
They didn't want it to go.
Ah!
Look!
Griffith's penis!
Ah!
Except for Casca.
But she doesn't have genitals.
She has boobs.
Yeah.
They don't show anyone below.
Anyway.
Which saw the idea of being like Casca's tits.
But all I'm saying is that the intention was we don't want it to be dominated by haha look
at the thing.
No.
We need it to be dominated by check out those tits.
Right.
In that case yes.
But in this case.
It was a poor moral decision.
In this case I see it makes a little more sense as a cultural version of when you show
the focus group in Japan they go he he he a butt.
Yeah.
And you show the focus group in America and they go why the fuck is that cam and asshole.
Yeah.
I kind of get that feeling with this too.
It's because Kancho doesn't exist over here.
That's why.
If there was a rich history of little kids shoving their fingers up your butt then this
might be different.
Yeah.
But there isn't.
There isn't here.
It's kind of like how that clip of hard gay like humping that little girl's shoulder
is horrifying.
Oh it's terrible.
Super gentle about it too.
Like that flew everywhere around here because we lost our minds in North America and over
there they're like ah hard gay and just went to the next thing.
Oh hard gay Razor Ramon you're the funniest right.
What other Razor Ramon was there.
But like when any of this actually results in a game somehow being worse or some huge
monumental piece of the game is altered for the worse then I'll start to worry.
But yeah until then I think it's still fine.
Sure but I mean again.
I wouldn't.
I don't know.
It's certainly not worthy of the term gait.
No I didn't.
I did.
I'm looking at woolly.
Yeah obviously we're trying to fucking.
Yeah we're trying to blow things out of proportion.
Now it's woolly gait.
Well dude we're not game journalists unless we make gaits.
Censor gait.
It's true.
Right.
Yeah.
Woolly continue with your game journalism quick your own role.
Censor gait day 85.
Hey kids if you want to have fun change your name on Xbox Live to Xbox Sign Out but no that's
already been taken and that's the polite way to do it.
So if you haven't seen the video.
Oh yeah.
Some guy jumped on Call of Duty and did like the obvious.
He made his name Xbox Sign Out and a bunch of dudes and started to troll.
He trolled to get people to say the name and a couple of people went oh Xbox Sign Out and
then went no.
No no no.
Then he got the reactions.
Exactly.
And I'm watching this like how that's funny.
Xbox Off is so.
He could have been much more cruel.
Xbox Turn Off gets you a warning too.
No no no the thing is Xbox go to anything because there's no confirmation on that.
I feel that the person did this should be an elected official and wherever he lives because
I think he's a fucking genius.
Xbox Sign Out for Mayor.
Why did that happen on launch?
How did it take that guy that long?
No one's thought of it.
Nobody's thought of it.
The joke is so obvious.
Somehow no one thought of it.
It was pseudo tech man.
They were developing it.
Yeah.
But now it's out there.
It's pretty good.
Who says there's no more heroes?
Right?
Suda51 does.
No.
Even he doesn't say that anymore.
Also as far as really cool videos goes have you seen the tech demo Pillows Castle?
Oh yeah it's great.
Isn't that awesome?
It's awesome.
You guys if you really need to check this out.
So the premise is the first person puzzle game and you pick up for Pillows?
No.
You pick up objects and as you move them around in the environment when you let them go they
render as far as they possibly can from you.
The important thing?
In their proper scale size.
It's very hard to explain this but the deal is that when you see it you'll sort of understand.
It's about shifting perspective and messing with a field of distance.
So you pick up a small object in front of you and it stays-
Can you give an example of what type of object?
If I pick up this re-remote?
No, no, no.
Check it out.
There's a very clean example.
You pick up a picture of the Mona Lisa because everything has scale and it stays the exact
same size in front of you.
It's floating.
I know it's floating.
Right?
And you're looking at it like yeah this is the size you took.
And you drop it back where it was and it's the same size.
Now if you face the horizon and drop it, it will drop at the scale that it's in front
of you except you can run away to it.
It will drop onto the horizon as if it was two dimensional.
As far away from you as possible.
But when you move towards it in 3D space it will have appropriate horizons to mention.
Exactly.
So to put this-
It'll be gigantic.
So imagine if you're facing a wall.
That sounds really good to do.
Yeah, you're facing a wall and you drop the painting and it drops as the painting size
and then you turn right 90 degrees from the wall and face the infinite horizon and drop
it.
It will be a massive-
If my long painting-
If you like something like that then you too desperately need to play anti-chamber.
Right.
Because anti-chamber is-
Yeah, that came up-
It came up-
It came up-
It just mind annihilating.
I watched a speedrun of that.
Because it is-
Because she got an AGDQ and it was fucking insane.
The entire game is just nothing but portal-ish like making it through the room with total
non-euclidean geometry and impossible space.
You know, turn a corner, turn around and you're in a different place.
But don't look up because it'll change the place.
Yeah, exactly.
It's nuts.
I wish that we could have taken the genre of first person puzzlers and moved them back
like five years so that we could have seen more examples of the genre until now.
We've got a bunch now.
There's a couple now.
There's a couple but they're still just starting out, right?
There's portal, there's quantum conundrum, there's portal 2-
There's 2 and it's paint parts, anti-chamber of course, anti-chamber, this one which is
really very interesting.
And there's a couple of indie ones, of course, not a ton of like-
Nourbacular draw.
Nourbacular draw.
You think there'd be more with like portal success, you think a couple of them would
be as good as they come.
But you have to be smart.
You have to come up with that shit.
Just be as good as Valve.
That's all you have to do.
You have to come up with a weird reality bending concept that you want to conundrum.
Yeah, you said that.
Oh, you did that sound?
Yeah, yeah.
So, and I don't want to explain other things because when you watch the videos there's
bits that get introduced that you go, ah, that's clever.
I don't know, this looks like a really fun thing and I'd love to see it developed into
a fun project.
Oh, it will.
It will.
If they don't make it, someone will steal it.
Because they introduce-
They don't make it, I'll steal it.
So, you're saying this Pillows Castle demo looks like the Nourbacular drop to what will
eventually be Portal.
Absolutely.
Yeah.
Absolutely.
Valve should buy this shit out of these guys and then just walk over to the back rooms.
And then never make it.
And never make it.
Like they introduce Portal 3.
For Dead 3.
Portal 3 coming soon.
Yeah.
And the important thing to note is that there's an exit door that you have to reach and the
places where that can be are like, great, great.
Yeah, but that's Pillows Castle.
Also, so God of War, not God of War, sorry.
God of War.
What's it called?
Castlevania?
Wow.
That was really subtle.
Lord's of Shadows 2.
That was really subtle how you did that.
What?
That was really good.
Anyway, I forgot the name, but Lord's of Shadows 2, Eurogamer did an interview with the producer.
Not just Eurogamer.
A couple people.
Lots of press.
Many journalists.
Lots of press.
There was a big preview event for that.
All the Guardians Journalists.
All the Guardians Journalists.
Eurogamer talked to Dave Cox, the producer, and that guy's name is Dave Cox.
And they...
COX.
Whatever.
It's still funny in my brain.
And, you know, he had a lot of things to say about where it goes and what's happening
in the game.
Hey, vampires.
Sure.
And, you know, you kill a family or whatever.
You guys like vampires?
Um, but one interesting headline that I was like, really, was the God of War comparisons
really pissed us off.
Wow, it's really interesting how we got here after you made that God of War mistake earlier.
Yeah.
So, almost a few points.
Yeah.
The God of War comparisons pissed you off.
Sure.
Don't make God of War.
Don't make God of War!
Yeah.
What do you want me to say?
It was...
Like, Dante's Inferno was the first step away, Castlevania was the second step.
You know what they should make, Pat?
What's that?
King of Fighters.
Why would you just make Street Fighter?
Why would you do that?
Fatal Fury is the better example.
It's bullshit.
Fatal Fury now.
Just don't make Fatal Fury.
Yeah.
Because when you press the launch button and you have the exact same jump launch physics
as God of War, then you can't really get mad when people compare you to God of War.
You know?
Yeah.
I think...
You have a horizontal chain crowd control button.
Take your lumps.
Yeah.
It's the same with KOF.
Like, they got called a Street Fighter.
Until they stopped beating Street Fighter.
And they took their lumps and now they're awesome.
Since I've beaten the game.
Yeah.
It's much better than God of War.
It's much better than God of War.
And the second one is even like it's not even close to God of War.
Yeah, it doesn't.
You're right.
I agree.
But it looks great.
But the point being that like it's very clear that there were influences there.
What was he supposed to say?
Was he supposed to say we're really glad that people called us a God of War?
No.
It's like we're really, we're really glad people compared us to this game that's way
worse than our game.
Hold that L on your chest because guess what?
There's parts of God of War in your game.
Hold L on your chest means he's a loser.
Yeah, take that hit that you're inspired by something else.
What the fuck in the biggest success Castlevania's ever had?
That's not my point.
My point is that the game was clearly inspired by a thing.
Don't pretend you're not.
That's all.
What was he supposed to say?
Take it.
Nothing.
No.
You did it.
If you were in that position you guys would have taken that.
If you're clearly inspired by a thing, don't pretend you're not.
If you have PR guys on either side telling whispering in your ear what do you say, what
do you think you say?
Whatever you want.
Don't lie.
Lie.
Not lie, but don't imply that your thing is not inspired by a thing.
I agree with that.
Like I'd probably say it, but at the same time like there's no use defending it because
like that's what it is.
This reminds me of a recent interview.
One of the most recent interviews Dennis Dyak did where he talked about how when he
first demoed Eternal Darkness, how he was at the demo station, he was the guy like
demoing at a D3 and almost every single person who came up to the demo station, it was a
mansion area where he had a shotgun and they came away going, oh, it's a Resident Evil
clone.
And he went, fuck, god, dammit, shit, fuck.
And that game was not even close to Resident Evil, they probably shouldn't have showed
that section.
That was his takeaway.
Yeah.
Or how about it?
So people that didn't beat the game probably aren't aware of how less of a God of War clone
than it actually is once you play a lot more of it.
Sure.
Take, what should we call it, Bobby Connick saying that Rock Band just is a pale imitation
of the original.
That's the best ever.
Like it's kind of similar.
You know, it's like them saying like, yeah, for guitar heroes, like the Rock Band comparisons
really piss us off.
It's like, fuck you.
And you can't say that when it's the fucking original.
Yeah.
Exactly.
That was messed up for sure.
So yeah, no, that's all, man.
That's all it is.
You know?
The shittiest thing about that was fucking Activision got away with the good guitar
buttons.
Yeah.
Not forever.
Yeah.
For a while.
Those guitar hero guitar buttons were way better.
They're way better.
But the point is, there's a million versions of this.
Like the guys that actually made the guitar, just a million versions had to get new ones.
PlayStation All-Stars, the Smash Bros. comparisons really pissed us off.
Yeah.
Like what do you want?
Just take it.
Anyway.
I feel that one's considerably more unfair considering that one is a blatant rip and
they got caught putting Smash Bros. tags in their YouTube videos.
Oh, really?
Oh, yeah.
You don't remember that?
I didn't get that.
On some of the PlayStation All-Stars, like YouTube trailers, they had Smash Bros. in
the YouTube tags.
I remember there was a picture of the development office.
Which is fine.
They're owning up to it.
Yeah.
And the development offices of, what was it?
Super Bot?
Yeah.
They're just GameCube controllers all over their offices.
But seriously, which office doesn't have GameCube controllers all over?
Most of them.
No.
Not good ones.
That's a shame.
There's plenty more around that time.
I don't know.
I might have one.
This was something that kind of, like you think about it and you're like, yeah, I can
see this.
Wow.
Apparently.
Dogs playing pool.
Damn.
No, dogs playing poker.
Holy shit.
Dogs playing pool is better.
Because the legal scratches the board.
When I was in college, I made a painting of dogs playing DS together.
Wow.
I think I saw that on DeviantArt one time.
I never seen that.
Matt, fire him.
I will.
Once I see the picture.
Donkey Kong Country Returns use the same engine.
Yeah.
I heard that and I was just like, all right.
That makes sense.
They look like the same.
Retro.
Retro is a company that, yeah, you guys can do that.
They can do it.
Hey, what does Donkey Kong play like?
Third person?
Hey, what does the Morph Ball play like?
Third person?
Yeah.
When you say it like that, the Morph Ball sounds like I can totally see that.
Yeah, exactly.
When I heard that.
You change the physics and lock the camera.
When I heard that, I was like, yeah, like stick with what you know, considering the engine's
just been portable for fucking eight generations or whatever.
The subtext, if you will, to the story is they know the fuck out of this engine.
Oh boy, do they ever.
At this time.
Yeah.
That's very likely.
Expect Star Fox first party developer that gets to do like infinite time projects.
Infinite time.
They're going to make it sing.
They're going to make it sing.
Speaking of engines, speaking of engines and infinite time and Nintendo products.
Oh, okay.
Did you guys see that the secret developer featured on over a Eurogamer on the development
of the Wii U hardware and subsequent middleware tools?
Dude, the Wii U is a bigger fucking internal disaster than any of us could have thought.
Actually not because then they had another article that have all current Wii U developers
or like all of that is wrong and outdated.
I'm sure.
Okay, let's start with this and then we'll go back.
Sure, sure.
Okay.
The part that really sang to me or like rang true and I went, if this is true, this is
the worst thing ever.
And it's the part where developers and hardware people are in conference calls with the Nintendo
R&D teams working on the hardware describing, you guys need to do this like more like Xbox
Live or we need API hooks like PlayStation Network.
And the response that comes down from Nintendo is you need to be more clear because no one
in the development circuit of our teams has ever used those systems ever.
So we have no idea what you're talking about.
Please explain what you mean by Xbox Live.
But in the article I read was just like the guys from Renegade Kid who made Newton Mudd
and a bunch of other developers that work on stuff.
Now like all of these problems we never got and we were working at launch.
I'm sure, yeah.
I'm sure some developers had a rougher time, but we're not like big huge man.
Well, that's what I'm going to say is like you just named a really small time developer.
Yeah, who should have more problems?
No, I'm referring to the anonymous.
Oh, come on.
The guy who sounds really much, the guy who sounds like he really worked on fucking, what's
the zombie you?
That's the game it really sounds like, but that's just me.
Yes, an anonymous developer.
For a AAA company.
For a AAA company.
Okay.
And the way it read is that it sounded like AAA games that had like dedicated pipelines on
PS3 and 360 had a much bigger problem with the Wii U than indie guys or smaller guys
who were doing less ambitious games because their pipelines ran into the Wii U and just
got cock-blocked by the CPU and the weird development problem.
So then these two stories are not mutually exclusive?
They're totally not.
I don't know, but the guy said like in the article I wrote, I read.
Yeah, he wrote it, confirmed.
The article I read, he just said all of these problems, like not the ones where it's like
because of the pipeline, whatever, like we get information back from Nintendo and we
get it and it would be fine.
I'm not saying that the other article is like completely fabricated, but it sounds a lot
of it is fabricated.
The reason, like you know, I really like Nintendo a lot.
No, you hate it.
Sure, whatever.
But like, you know, these renegade kid games, games like Shonen, like what kind of online
do they have?
What kind of Miiverse integration do they have?
What kind of DLC, all these things.
But all these things that AAA games have as a staple that are complex to implement.
How many Paulies are they pushing to keep a good frame rate?
Just big moving machines that move very slowly.
And so if something gets miscommunicated once, then that can take like over a week to fix.
Yeah.
Just as a communication issue before implementation happens.
Whereas for Indie guys, it's like they get the mail, they pass it around all seven of
them.
They talk about it and they're done.
And so like, for sure, the Indie guys probably had an easy time making an exclusive for the
Wii U in that sense.
But like, you know, when you're making a game for two or three other platforms and you've
got to make a Wii U skew as well and your team's already kind of spread and the Wii
U guys are like really dragging it back because they're having a hard time keeping up.
I will say this, like having touched larger and smaller like Wii games prior to this,
like I can't say the same for Wii U, but with the Wii, like the more moving parts there
were involved in the development or like features in the game, the more, way more complicated
it became behind the scenes to like cement and do things like.
No, but like it was exponential for the workload is what I mean.
Like you add this feature and it doesn't mean this, like that proportional amount of time
is added.
It means like double or triple because of how complex that would get.
And I'm sorry, I can't get into specific examples, but it really does add a lot if you're doing
a bigger game.
For a much smaller game though, totally a tight, quick shape, I'm sure.
I can attest to that.
But for the Wii U, like I can just straight up attest to that.
Yeah, you can.
I can.
The thing that gets to me is that these, these complaints that I'm seeing about the, the
incredibly weirdly slow turnaround time on like Japanese tech instructions from Nintendo's
team when trying to do meverse integration, stuff like that.
It really reminds me of, oh, I totally lost my train of thought.
You guys kept me waiting too long.
Oh God, it's gone.
Oh, sorry.
This is so embarrassing.
It's totally fucked up.
It's you fucked up.
It's completely fucked up.
It's completely fucked up.
I didn't even remember it in like 20 minutes.
Super Dragon.
Next topic.
I think, I think Super Dragon.
I think the moral of this story is all AAA devs should drop everything.
Oh God, now I got it.
Dammit.
They gave exclusives for the Wii U.
Too late.
We're moving on.
No, wait.
I, I don't remember.
It's like the story of describing in detail all these like problems that on their own
would not amount to like horrible disasters, like rang a lot more true than the, the typical
response of, well, the reason this port came out badly is because the devs were lazy.
Like look at Mass Effect 3 or, or it's all the, all the cross platform skews that came
out along that had weirdly bad frame rates or, or came out kind of weird, but sometimes
improved in some things.
Like the excuse of, well, the devs were just lazy.
That's really not the case.
Like all the devs at all the companies were just lazy.
See, there was a weird communal pipeline thing and when Nintendo had that giant firmware
update that took hours to download, like that didn't say a lot of good things about like
the, the, the stability of the system prior to launch in terms of like it's going and
now it's there.
If you're a big company, then set up your unprecedented partnership.
Exactly.
Drop everything.
Start making exclusives.
That was EA.
That was EA.
Then we're going to do the unprecedented partnership.
In fact, they never called it, did they call it off ever?
No, never.
So, why would you call off?
They just slowly, they had the walk of shame out of the room.
No, I think they're still working on it.
They're still cooking something up.
It's coming.
It's coming.
It's coming.
Battlefield 5 exclusive to Wii U.
You heard it here first.
She's not after Battlefield 4.
Yeah, I know.
Maybe if they, maybe if they ever fix Battlefield 4.
Battlefield 4 working.
They're not even, they're not even working on the DLC until they fix the bugs and they
still haven't fixed the bugs.
Which is awesome.
Imagine that me verse slight corner of dudes shouting out Battlefield shit.
Like all these cutesy little things and then just fucking.
Well, well, well, well, well, Battlefield, I know you don't have it written down there,
but I was just telling Pat about the dumbest thing I saw today, which is calling duty ghost
DLC.
Did either of you see that?
Yeah, I did.
So there's a bunch of-
That's not Battlefield.
It's silly.
But it's almost the same thing.
Anyway, there's four maps in this new DLC pack.
One of them is called Fog.
Yeah, right?
Really cool map.
Yeah, it's a really cool looking map.
There's a bunch of cabins on a foggy lake.
And if you do, that thought it was hilarious, I'm sure it is.
I don't know anything.
I don't know anything about how Call of Duty works.
So when you do the thing in the multiplayer game, you do the initiative, you become the
guy, you level up or you do something.
This is cute.
This is really cute.
Level up your space inventory.
You become the slasher, synonymous with lakes and cabins and forests.
Okay.
Good old Michael Myers from Halloween.
Okay.
Apparently with the sound and everything.
Do you lose all your guns?
Yes.
You get an axe.
Wow.
You get an axe and you become Michael Myers who terrorized zero people in foggy cabins.
Because that's fucking Jason, you stupid assholes.
In all fairness, the other half of the map is underground caves and farms.
Which is also a Jason thing.
But what I'm saying is it's not just Camp Crystal Lake.
Yeah, but it strikes me as I don't even know what that strikes me.
It's really silly, but I think it's cool.
Imagine a fucking Halloween movie that takes place on an army base with dudes with guns.
There's been lots of Call of Duty Battlefield games where there's suburban environments.
Sure.
When his victims are fucking armed and ready to go, like, what are you doing?
He doesn't even stand a chance, yeah.
Like, I'm gonna come stab you, really, with my sniper rifle.
Okay, look.
And my train is never gonna fuck you.
You're probably way more durable.
Right?
It's never gonna top, like, black.
These guys rocked, like, 50 years when George Romero was a boss.
Oh, right.
You know what?
He played with the train.
He was on the train.
He was on the train.
Like, Sarah and Michelle Geller.
Yeah.
Sarah and Michelle Geller, Danny Trano, George.
And someone else.
That's horror.
Fourth guy.
Okay, I'm gonna be honest.
I'm a complete Jason Mark, so the fact that they get to have Michael Myers and Mortal
Comet had Freddy fucking...
Put Jason in something, you stupid assholes.
What if it was the Jason with the real sex?
Madden 26.
But, like, what if it was the Jason with the Jason that shitty mask?
Like, the one whole mask.
The dumb, like, one rat wrapping around the space.
No, it's cool.
Like, it's dorky, but it actually fit Call of Duty a bit better.
He's so dumb-looking.
Yeah, it's cool.
Like, cause I saw, like, a large, like, there's like a class photo thing of all the Jason
masks over the years.
I can see how that one juts out.
Fuck, dude.
But it's the future.
It's the future.
It's the combo breaker.
It's the future.
He gets re-played by Cyborg, so they have to give him a metal mask.
The worst.
Learn the lore.
It's the future.
Don't excuse it.
No, learn the lore.
Don't excuse it.
The future, though.
Hey, guess what comes out?
Tomorrow.
Do you mean today?
No, two days from now.
Oh.
It's not the game I was thinking of.
In the mega-future.
It's coming.
It's not the game.
Which game?
Liberation HD.
Does anyone know?
No, that's out today.
Broken age.
No, that's also today.
Part one.
That's also today.
It's the 14th.
Today's not the 14th.
No, it's Tuesday.
14th.
Fuck it.
What?
What?
Okay, great.
No, it comes out on Tuesday.
Who cares?
Today's the 13th.
Today's the 13th all day.
So it comes out all the time.
So it comes out tomorrow, which is today.
Which is today.
Okay.
Yeah.
Idiot.
Buy it now.
It's...
One would be Shea, because they haven't named the girl yet.
I guess so.
And we've know the guys changed.
Truth be told, I've been following it as much as I should.
I eagerly await to see how good this game is.
It looks really good.
Because if it's anything less than amazing, then people are going to murder Tim Shea.
Of course, yeah.
But it looks really good.
It looks like it's going to be amazing.
Good.
Hey, did that...
You know that Republic...
Republic?
Yeah.
It came out.
It came out.
I haven't tried it yet, because my iPhone doesn't support it.
Oh, okay.
Remember, that was...
Republic.
That was one of the first Kickstarter games where people were like, fuck Kickstarter, these
guys are criminals.
Well, it wasn't.
No, it wasn't.
You just don't go to the dark community.
No, it was Ryan.
It was Ryan Peyton, basically.
Yeah.
It was a huge drama, but Ryan Peyton wanted to make a game, and he was like, we don't have
enough money, and the people are like, make a fucking PC port.
And then they're like, okay.
And they just added a PC port to their stretch goals, and then said that they had already
reached it, and then said we'll make the PC port with the money we make off the iOS version.
And people were going like, oh.
And a lot of people were already really sketchy on it just being an iOS game.
But I just remember that having a lot of this game better be good after all this drama,
and it came out, and the general populace just farted, and no one knows if it was good
or not.
Banner Sega also comes out very soon.
The reason I went to look up for it was because I heard it was really good, actually.
Oh, it was?
It kind of got overshadowed because it's on the iOS store, and that's like the reddest
motion ever.
The reddest possible ocean.
That's good.
The reddest ocean possible.
Support that, though, if you want to get here.
No.
No.
They're busy playing Candy Car Saga.
Finish that.
I wanted to say when we were talking about engines just now.
The other day.
Yeah, the 10 months ago.
Exactly.
Days, minutes, whatever.
It's midnight.
Right.
The empty framework engine is just going away.
Getting retired.
The empty framework is the best fucking engine.
And it's going away.
And it's really not going away.
It's being relegated to current, no, last gen and mobile.
Yeah.
Which means it's going away.
Oh, that's when the new Mega Man's and Onamushes will come out on empty frameworks.
Exactly.
So I can play them on my phone.
No, wait.
I will kill myself.
Remember the new shitty Onamushes coming out on the V3?
PS4?
It's already on PC, and it's coming to PS3 and not PS4 for some reason.
You just want to play a shitty Onamusha.
It's not Onamusha.
And how about that?
It's a fucking Mabage game.
If you want to play this, like, Roll or Maya or Claire in that fucking game.
Dude, you don't even play as them.
They're just cards.
Oh, shut up.
It's a fucking Mabage game.
Shut up.
It's called Onamusha Souls.
It's an Onamusha game.
It's got really good on it.
Japanese mobile development, so much.
I also hate it.
I support your hate.
No, you're going to like it when you get to use Terry Bogard in that other mobile.
No, you won't be able to.
Because SNK is too busy being a bully.
I thought you were going to say, yeah.
Yeah, that's a thing.
That's a drama that's never been going on.
But honestly, that's just the same story we reported last time.
Yeah, it was.
The SNK's.
Stop making that thing we paid you back.
Stop making the Neo Geo X.
And the guys are like, no, we signed a contract.
We're going to follow it.
Yeah.
Fuck off.
Empty framework.
Empty framework.
I just mentioned it because I like the concept of someone saying, SNK, you're such a mean,
like high rolling bully can barely have your lights on.
Really?
Yeah.
You're going to make these sprites in the dark.
God damn it.
You got to tack on Playmore to remind them of that death that they went through.
Yeah.
They were told to make KOF 12 in the dark and out came Doki Doki Majo Shimpan.
This wasn't what we were doing.
God damn it.
We got to ship something.
It's what Jerry was doing.
Jerry, did you make this?
You are an ant in the after birth of Doki Doki Majo Shimpan.
Anyway, sorry.
Empty framework.
Yeah, I just played Goodbye Asaka all day long.
Well, it's because it's going to get replaced by the Pant Array.
Well, that's what I was going to say was the actual part of the story that everyone wants
you to pay attention to is that Pant Array is amazing.
Pant Array is the hype new shape and it's going to be used for everything next gen.
It's easy for them to port back and forth and so on and so forth.
Just like Empty Framework's job works.
There's a difference.
The difference is that Empty Framework is the Mega Man trigger framework.
That's the thing.
You're running emotionally attached to the Empty Framework engine because you're like that.
That's why Dead Rising plays like that.
That's why Lost Planet plays like that.
For sure.
It was supposed to be for Mega Man.
Says everyone.
No, nobody says that.
The guy who made it today.
I know.
Unconfirmed.
He's dead now.
Exactly.
So the only last gen Capcom games that didn't use Empty Framework were Capcom games made
by not Capcom.
Ninja Theory.
Yeah, I'm pretty sure.
And Dark Void.
No, Marvel 3 didn't use it.
Dead Rising 2 didn't use it either.
No, Cross Tekken didn't use it either.
One of their fighters didn't use it and it may have been Cross Tekken.
Because Ultimate Marvel's totally used it.
Yeah, that one does.
I think it's Cross Tekken though that doesn't use it.
No, but if 4 uses it?
Yeah, of course.
So then Cross Tekken uses it.
One of the headlining fighters didn't use it.
I'm sorry.
5 and 6 both use it.
Maybe it was Tatsunoko.
It was Tatsunoko.
Probably.
It's the other one.
Because it ran in an arcade board or something.
I was sure I read that.
I might be wrong.
Whatever.
But yeah.
We're probably alright.
We're emotionally attached to the name.
That's all.
It's stupid and superficial.
You have no idea how sick Panta Ray is.
Panta Ray is going to be way better.
But in my brain, when I see Panta Ray, all I can see is the engine we're not making
Dragon's Dogma with.
It's the deep down.
Dude, deep down looks great though.
It's not Dragon's Dogma though.
It's the deep down.
Just wait for Dragon's Dogma too.
It's fine.
Shut up.
You know, they might call it...
You're not going to fool me with your double D's today, Willie.
You love them.
What were we saying?
You love them.
Destruction?
Disaster dick?
Disaster dick.
That's correct.
Oh, that's pretty good.
Is it?
In Japan, it might be called deep down, but watch them just go off fuck it.
Dragon's Dogma?
Dragon's Dogma?
They register deep down here.
Yeah, it's coming down.
And why would you say that?
Because nobody brought Dragon's Dogma here anymore.
But it's called deep down because the whole game is dungeon crawling.
Yeah.
Deep down is a really bad name.
I'm really looking forward to it.
Yeah, it's good.
I've seen movies called that.
Yeah.
How'd that go?
Not well.
Do they have sequel numbers?
No.
Yeah.
But like, there's volume numbers.
Oh.
I think all these, like, next-gen engines are going to be really great for development,
though, because, like, you got to think back...
Well, they fucking better.
No, no.
But, like, there's a serious, like, obvious reason for it, because, like, empty framework
and all this shit was made back in, what, 2005?
Earlier, probably.
Back when they were like, nah, we don't know what a Facebook is.
We don't know what a complex network thing is.
Dead Rising limited production in, like, 2004.
Yeah, it was old, yeah.
So, like, now they're going to have, like, a lot of these features that have come to
be standards baked in, and it's going to help a lot.
I hope that the empty...
Sorry, I hope that Pantoray lives up to its successor as the empty framework engine,
because the empty framework engine was awesome.
I'm sure it will.
Those games were, like, technically...
They were all fantastic, yeah.
They ran awesome.
Like, not perfect, in some cases, Dragon Dog.
Dragon's Dog was being the worst of those games.
Oh, it struggled.
But Dragon's Dog was pushing that shit to the fucking Linux.
No, I don't know.
You know, if there's one company that's actually good at, like, really using their engines
to shitload, it's Capcom first party.
I can think of a couple Japanese companies that have long histories of botching their
next-gen engines.
Square Enix!
I'm sure if you got your hands on...
I was just going to say, remember that shitty white engine?
You feel good.
But you've got to be...
Crystal Tools, motherfucker!
I thought it was called the White Crystal Engine.
It was White Engine?
Then it was Crystal Tool.
Okay, it was White Engine.
What a fucking mess!
The thing that I was not really aware of was the fact that there was a ton of mobile games
as well that...
Did you say mobile?
Mobile?
Mobile games.
There's a ton of, like, whatever, iPad and shit games that were also totally using it.
Yeah, I'm pretty sure RE4 on mobile uses it.
DUNC, DMC4, Reframe.
I thought that never came out.
No.
Does it?
Does it?
I bought it.
Does it, like, Wolf of the Battlefield, Commando 3 also use empty framework?
No, it doesn't.
Wasn't that on real free?
It doesn't.
Because, no, that was the games that were done by Backball.
Backball.
Yeah, you're right.
And those were all on their own thing.
Yeah.
Bionic Commando.
What did Bionic Commando use?
No, no, no.
Not empty framework, because empty framework had no English documentation.
So that's why literally every Capcom game made by everyone else involved.
That was the biggest mistake of Capcom's whole generation.
All this time, making this awesome engine, they made no English, French, but any western
language documentation, then they outsourced half their games so that no one could use
the awesome engine they spent all that time making.
What happened with Dead Rising 2 then?
It used its own proprietary engine.
Aside from Dead Rising 2, like, every other game that has used it is awful.
DMC, DMC used its engine well.
What?
Not on consoles.
No, no, no.
But it did, though.
Not on consoles?
It's still a non-no.
Of course, not on consoles.
On PC, it used it fine.
That's why I said...
Yeah, you can't just...
And PC uses every engine fine.
Oh, because Revengeance was a perfect port.
And Revengeance is a pretty solid port.
Oh, because Deadly Premonition was a good port.
No, but Deadly Premonition wasn't good on consoles either.
But like, dude, DMC used its engine well.
DMC doesn't use its engine well because it can't hit its fucking frame rate.
No, but it's gorgeous.
I can't believe it.
Not at 30 frames a second, it's not.
You're completely glossing over the amazing, like, artistic creation of the visuals in that game.
But it's still a non-great game.
My point was that aside from Deadly Premonition...
There's not a lot of examples.
You just said it uses the engine well.
You said nothing to do with gameplay.
Did I?
I forgot.
No, but you're right.
No.
Surprisingly, there's not a lot of examples of non-premonic engines.
Dark Void.
Dark Void.
Dark Void.
Most of them used Unreal 3.
Yeah.
Disasters.
Except DMC, I maintain that.
DMC 3 used on...
Not DMC 3.
Fuck it.
DMC used Unreal 3 as well.
That's what I'm saying, and it was a disaster.
Here it was, because it was 30 frames a second.
But not on PC.
Myborgs did...
You remember where this Myborgs actually did use everything for?
For the Wii?
That'd be fucking sick.
Yeah, everything Capcom put out that wasn't made by Capcom was not great.
Who played Flock?
Flock?
No, a world of sour.
Three minutes.
Remember that?
That has been the most obscure Capcom game release.
Yeah, I remember that.
That was so weird.
Everyone was so pissed.
Who developed that?
I forget.
We could look it up later, but I remember that World of Sour game where you're sour gummy
people.
Yeah.
Fuck Utah.
Capcom published some game where you're sour candy people, and that got announced
like three or four weeks after Mega Man Legends got cancelled.
But it was literally the licensed candy game.
Yeah, and everyone was so pissed.
I can't believe you're fucking greenlighting this shit and putting it out there and we
don't get Mega Man Legends.
What about Spyborgs though?
That was really good, right?
That was before Mega Man Legends, so you can't complain about it.
I can't complain as much as I would.
I also can't complain.
Hey, I don't want to have the balls to imagine that to spend.
And then everyone was like, please don't mention Spyborgs to spend.
I was going to try to find an example to say imagine you cancelled some super hype
awesome game and then brought out Sneak King.
Sneak is awesome, no!
Oh, the T-Rex Doritos game.
Or whatever.
And then I'm like, wait, no, you cancelled Mega Man.
Like, what?
I have two comics to sneak games.
They never cancelled games.
We cancelled Smash Bros. to focus on the new Ice Climbers.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
But no, no, no.
It sucks because the new Ice Climbers would be cool.
No, not Ice Climbers.
Ice Breakers.
Yeah.
Gum Game.
Well, I was thinking a new Donkey Kong Eraser.
Oh, Donkey Kong Barrel Blast II.
It was so bad Barrel Blast II.
I can't, I, yeah.
It's probably the worst first party Nintendo game ever.
My brain went right to Diddy Kong because I completely removed that game's existence.
Oh wait, it was a Nintendo first party.
It was someone else.
No, it wasn't first party, but it was still like Nintendo.
Rest in peace, empty framework.
Rip and tease.
You go up to the moon with Mega Man.
Yeah, you stay there.
We'll throw bombers of 40 at the moon.
We'll get there someday, guys.
We'll get there someday.
Nintendo Ray keeps up the empty framework tradition of easy, awesome PC ports.
Sure it will.
That was something that, that empty framework was really awesome at.
It's that any console game that Capcom was going to port over, you knew it was going to run like Ace on PC.
It wasn't the fucking Ubisoft scenario of like, maybe this year's Assassin's Creed super fucked on PC.
I thought DMC4 is a DMC3 that's really bad on PC.
DMC3 is really bad on PC.
That is the one by Ubisoft.
Yeah, I know.
That uses a weird old engine.
Yeah, DMC4 is as good as great.
Yeah, as far as I've been told, yeah.
A new challenger approaches.
Oh my god, who's it going to be?
Is this the fifth character?
I know exactly where you're going with this.
DDD confirmed for Smash Bros.
It's fine.
DDD's cool.
DDD's the fifth character in Ultra?
We just got a new character, not new character, Zelda.
What was the last new character we got?
Mega Man?
No, in Smash?
Wasn't there one trainer?
Wefit trainer.
Yeah, it's been a while.
Wefit trainer is awesome.
I really wish they should get on with it a little bit.
But honestly, yeah, guys really.
Hey, they got to space it out because the game won't come out for another three years.
No, and I agree with that, but god damn, they get along with it.
Every time, it's just like, we know.
Thanks for the screenshots.
He looks really cool.
Awesome.
Great.
Here's the 3DS version.
This is you saying take me to Mount Splashmore right now.
No, take me, take me, take me.
Just let me look at Mount Splashmore.
No, no, no, no, no.
Smash Brothers take me there right now.
But when you got to go like four announcements, five announcements before.
That's the curse of constant announcement.
No, but the thing is that one of the reasons why the original Smash Dojo was great was
because they weren't just announcing characters, they announced assist trophies.
So we haven't gotten hype over any assist trophies recently.
That's true.
They're not doing that.
That would have been great, but we're just getting characters we already know.
The killer is like obviously Brawl had the best ad campaign of any game ever made, ever.
But the killer is the fucking first trailer for Brawl where they unveil six new characters.
Like damn, what pitnet met the war mode.
And one of them was Snake.
Zeroes of Samus, Snake and...
Snake.
One of them was Snake.
Maybe there wasn't a sixth one.
Ike?
No, he wasn't in the first one.
No, it wasn't.
Whatever.
That was nuts.
That was fucking amazing.
God damn.
And what do you mean DDD wasn't confirmed?
Saccharized making it.
In fact, there's gonna be...
Expect Bandana, Waddle D to be in this instead of Snake.
That's fair, Bandana, Waddle D is fucking awesome.
That's okay.
I don't care.
You can save Wonder Red and Bayo for day one.
It doesn't matter.
But just keep some secrets.
Just show me some assist trophies at least.
Don't show me the little Mac.
Just show me it.
Because I'm just gonna spit on you.
Show me a new item type.
Show me like a weird new thing.
The biggest bummer to me is why doesn't every fucking Nintendo Direct have a fucking smash
segment?
I think we talked about that.
We did.
And they should have just done that.
Well, you know what though?
You know what though?
Because I'm sure like a couple of third party developers are gonna be like, dude, guys,
come on, please.
What do you mean?
Give us some air time, please.
Yeah, all of them.
For what third party game?
Well, that third party developer making the rival fighting game on the Nintendo Wii U
and 3DS.
No, these guys are all sitting on the edge of their seats because they're like, I can't
believe we get new Smash Bros. news today.
Of course they are.
I know.
I know.
But what third part?
What are you saying?
It's just kind of like if there was a dedicated Smash thing, every single Nintendo Direct.
People would see third party games more.
Some companies would be like, Nintendo, can we just please?
No, they'd be like, thanks for hyping up the Wii U so that people bought one so that
we can justify making a game for it.
I remind showing off our games.
No.
I think Nintendo Direct viewership would go up substantially if it was known that every
Nintendo Direct would have Smash Bros. news.
You're not wrong.
You're not wrong.
I'm just saying that I'm sure some developers would want to get in on that.
There are no third party developers on the Wii U.
Smash Bros. coming to you in video form on a scheduled basis.
No, and he doesn't really Wii U.
You need to talk everything in general.
Like Bravely Default might not get that much airtime if they had the Smash.
Bravely Default's being published by Nintendo.
But if they weren't, if there was some kind of inspiration.
Then Smash Bros. wouldn't bring it over.
I just mean if there was some other situation that would crop up.
That's all.
But it would totally get those numbers.
There are no third party developers on Wii U anymore.
It's gone.
It's a pretty barren wasteland.
There are.
I think there are like four games slotted for the entire year.
I was going to say.
There's probably one or two.
You know what?
Atlas.
Hey man, jump on the shop.
No, no, no.
I mean other than Indies.
Because Indies obviously there's a lot.
Jump on the shop.
Indies go everywhere too.
Yeah, but I mean, well, what I should say is there's a lot of exclusive Indies on Nintendo.
Like that's something that they didn't have.
Where is our dedicated Dylan's Rolling Western corner?
For nothing and no one.
For nothing and no one.
Although to be fair, I would like it if Dylan was in Smash.
For nothing, for no one.
I would like it if he was an assist trophy.
He's more dedicated.
That's the only problem.
But he plays a lot like Sonic.
Exactly, because Sonic's already in that.
But he's fucking so cool.
But he's fucking cooler than Sonic.
Armored Armadillo.
No, Sonic's probably cooler.
Yeah, where does all the furry are?
But you go out and assist with Sonic, you get the music and the stages.
Yeah, but you gotta live and learn with Sonic.
With Dylan, you get sand.
Shut up about Sonic music.
No.
And a twangy guitar.
No, you get that.
Your motherfuckers crush 40 is the sound of Sonic.
Why do you gotta get rid of it?
What?
No one needs to get rid of that.
Keep crush 40.
Good.
I like crush 40.
So keep Sonic in Smash.
Based Shadow Team.
Forever.
Gotta forget.
Gotta forget.
Stop.
Every podcast you're ruining.
No.
Start.
Start.
Don't stop.
I saw the Angry Gamer.
He did a really quick thing about like, people want me to play bad Sonic games.
What bad Sonic games?
Were there Sonic games released after Sonic 3?
And then he looks at all of them and goes, oh.
And he goes, he plays Shadow and he just says, this game is unfinished.
Next game.
It is.
That's a very good description.
Very apt.
Coming at something new so I don't have to think about Sonic anymore.
Coming attractions to a DVD player near you.
Tekken.
A man called X.
Yeah.
This looks cool though.
I like that last live action movie.
So here's the thing.
We all actually like that.
Everyone shake your hands around.
Yeah.
Raise your dunger.
Because Tekken, right?
And the Kotaku article came out today and was like, oh, they're making another Tekken
movie.
Because I remember, right?
But Tekjaku had a review where they were like, this is the worst.
Tekken and then the most ridiculous Morata game.
The Morata Apologized, right?
For that movie.
For the movie.
And I was like, you don't need to do that.
But Tekken was the most acceptable of all the dumb fighting game movies.
Because it turned into how dumb it was.
It was the most behind Mortal Kombat 1.
Okay.
Yeah, fine.
But that was so long ago.
Yeah, that's so long ago.
That you forget.
But there was that new age.
The second.
The golden age of fighting games.
Like Test Silver Age.
G.O.A. Tekken and what's the other one?
Chun-Li.
Chun-Li and King of Fighters.
Oh, King of Fighters.
So bad.
Yeah.
So they made a good video.
Remember when Ray Park just flashed his hands and all these rice things shot out?
When he puts on the hockey equipment.
And he goes, who are you?
And then he puts on the hockey equipment and goes, I'm the new King of Fighters.
Rugo.
And he just does a slap shot.
Don't let Darth Maul talk.
Don't let him talk.
There's a reason why all of his roles are non-talking.
He plays Snake Eyes as well.
Never let him talk.
Who literally his character is that he can't talk.
Yeah, no.
Anyway.
So it's the thing with Tekken.
Yeah, explain what this one's special about.
Because we've seen, we've gone through all these dumb fighting games.
I make you guys all watch the whatever they have.
You may enjoy it.
I go out of my way, except for the fucking Chun-Li one.
Because that hurts too much.
That movie's bad.
Oh, Legend of Chun-Li.
And so.
Remember that part where Bison's Irish and rips a baby out of a lady?
Remember that part where Bison starts Chinese, then turns Irish?
Yeah.
So Tekken was surprisingly excusable.
Yeah.
The fights were cool.
I went watching it.
It was just dumb.
Brian Fury got the respect he deserved.
Yoshi Mitsu was there.
He was actually in it.
He was there.
Ben Shanksum played Heihachi.
And Heihachi was a badass.
That's pretty good.
Right?
The only thing I didn't like is-
And they had Heihachi Mishima.
It's dead moment.
Yeah.
The only thing I really disliked about is Kazuya was like-
He was the weakest person on the movie.
He was the weakest person.
And the guy that played Jen was just couldn't act.
Yeah, he was the scrawny, annoying father guy, you know, whatever.
But no, they got Eddie Gordo.
They got the guy that trained Eddie Gordo's mocap to be him.
That's so sick, you know?
So what's the deal with the new movie?
So that movie was directed by the guy who did the lezzah commercial.
Yeah, the guy that directed those commercials.
The Great Fire Wars.
The guy that created the Dudley Boy special movie.
And now they got the director of Ong Back.
What?
What?
You didn't even see that?
Yeah.
Holy shit.
But hold on a minute.
Hold your horses.
Don't get high.
No, release the horses.
What was hype about Ong Back?
The direction or Tony Jo?
Tony Jo.
So then don't get so hyped.
Okay, well whoever choreographed the fight scenes, which I assume was also Tony Jo.
Tony Jo did that.
Okay.
So it's like Baramui the production company, you know, they get a lot of money for this.
And this guy, it's like, yeah, ride that coattail because, you know, you were the dude behind the camera.
If you say in a press release, the director of Ong Back, you already have a substantial amount of your audience going, yeah.
Because everyone just thinks of Tony Jo doing a six knee knee.
So what I'm going to do is if this movie comes out and is bad, like really, really bad, when I go see Raid 2, I'm just going to pretend that Rama is Jin Kasam.
Yeah.
I was going to say that.
Birendo.
I'm just going to pretend.
And it'll be great.
Wait for him to double trigger.
I don't care.
Fuck it.
Fuck it.
Do it.
Fuck it.
Who cares?
No, so gun combos.
Yeah.
And I'm happy that this is the fighting game movie that's getting a sequel.
I'm excited there.
It's also exciting that you made enough money to warrant a sequel.
Well, they probably did it, but they're just...
No, these types of movies never get unless they make some money.
Wasn't it on the Capcom Unity blog that they said something along the lines of...
Man Damn movie makes us so much money every time it plays in reruns.
Oh, I'm sure.
It's just worth it to keep it existing.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I hear that the film industry in those regions is extremely inexpensive, so this makes a lot
of sense to me.
Yeah, it does.
Yeah.
So there's a bit of story about it, isn't there?
Do you have it written down there?
Who's the man called X?
Is Lily in it?
I would assume Lily would be in it.
I would assume Asuka would be in it.
And Nina gonna make out in this one.
Because they almost did in the last one.
No, but they both got killed, or one of them got killed in the first one.
Is Panda in it?
Are you allowed to film Pandas?
I'll assume basically that any characters post Tekken 3 that didn't make it into the
last movie are gonna be here.
I hope so.
Like Miguel.
No, Miguel was awful.
Oh, God, yeah.
Miguel's great.
No, Miguel is sick.
Nice.
And he's dragon-off.
No, you knew who you want.
Dragon-off was in the first movie.
Oh, he was.
You want a Lisa, but Scott of it.
No, you want Bob in there.
Yeah, you want Bob in there.
You're right.
Not thin Bob.
No, you want Bob.
Oh, God, I'm not.
You want thin Bob?
No.
And then you want him to get beat up?
Oh, yeah, yeah.
And then he gets fat.
And then he gets fat, yeah.
Samohan's probably too old, but...
No, imagine...
Like perfect body.
Imagine Jin is like, oh, Jin, your next opponent and the door opens and it's just a live bear.
Yeah, exactly.
And he's like, no, I can't do this.
I can't do this.
I want that.
And then I want him to...
And he uses the kuma sound clips, not actual bear noise.
Wow.
And at one point, like, the one of the dudes in the back, like, running the tournament should be snooped on.
Just cameoing.
Yeah.
Yeah, totally.
Knock him down.
They need the most brutal bear combos ever filmed.
Yeah, they need...
In reality or otherwise.
The problem with kuma is that it would have to be CGI because kuma knows karate.
You can teach a bear anything.
No.
Have you seen those bears on balls?
If you're angry enough, they could teach a bear anything.
So you know a lot about bears on balls, Liam?
Yeah, they roll their own balls in the circuses.
Yeah, you're trying to make a thing out of nothing.
Anyway.
No, the only story detail we know is that it's a prequel.
Oh.
Oh, and he's a main hero.
That's weird.
We don't know much, but the actor is Kanekosugi.
If this is a fucking prequel, then this better goddamn have an old man throwing his son into a volcano.
Yeah.
Or off a cliff.
Either or.
Also, just fucking get Tony in there and just call him Bruce Irving.
Or Marshall.
Or call it a day.
You could be Marshall Law as well.
Yeah, you could be Marshall.
No, but Muay Thai.
Yeah, Muay Thai, no.
It'd be better.
But he looks nothing like Bruce Irving.
I know, but fucking it's Tony Jaws.
Bruce Irving's a six and a half foot tall black dude from the States.
But fucking it's Tony Jaws.
Tony Jaws like a tiny dude.
Because there's no other Muay Thai guy you could go with.
So what?
He's talented enough to do anything.
Just say it's Tony Jaws.
If you call him Marshall.
Just call him Tony Jaws.
You call him Marshall Law, and then he's got to do Marshall Law stuff.
Just call him Elephant Guy.
Kidney Pete.
He could do Kidney Pete.
He could do Kidney Pete.
Marshall Law, but Marshall Law's clearly a Bruce Lee type.
Why miscast him?
Well, you want to bring back Bruce Lee?
No, but you don't cast a guy that's good at a thing and ask him to not do his thing as a big star.
But he's the wrong race.
Don't cast him.
No.
It's not good.
Remember that time you hired Tony Jaws to show up at your ninth birthday?
Well, then he didn't need your cake.
And then you know what?
It's Tech End with Tony Jaws.
Just call it life by that logic.
Tech End Jaws.
In a new Street Fighter movie, you'd want Tony Jaws to play Sub-God.
Yes.
Yes.
Yes.
That's what you're saying.
After we've been through.
A nine foot tall bald man who's as thick as a tree.
After we've been through Michael Clark Duncan, I can take anything.
What?
But you don't want to.
But it was Paul Rock.
That was fine.
Oh, you're right.
He was Rock.
Yeah.
He wasn't Seagod.
No, no.
It was just some like.
I thought he was Seagod because he does the Seagod.
It's the most confusing thing.
He does Seagod's voice acting?
Yeah.
But he plays Rock in the movie.
Yeah.
Totally.
It's super confusing.
Okay.
Yeah, you're right.
Anyway.
Well, not anymore.
There's this stuff.
There's the Tekken anime.
There's the awful CG movie except for the last 20 minutes.
Well, the last 20 minutes of that movie is awesome.
It's the fucking awesomeest.
Too bad we never got to do that.
Yeah, yeah.
We should have mentioned that at the panel at Magfest.
Yeah.
That was one of those things that never panned out.
I still have the folder sitting on my hard drive.
We sat like two years ago and commented over the entirety of Tekken plug vengeance.
And Matt tried to upload it.
And every time.
It got yanked down.
Yeah.
Niko said no.
We just went fuck it.
We can't do anything with this.
We might be able to later.
Yeah.
And as you mentioned, dead people.
I wanted to say it last time, but I totally forgot.
Man.
Uncle Phil.
No.
I didn't get that.
This is like three weeks ago.
Uncle Phil.
I don't interact with the world.
This is on the internet.
It's internet everywhere.
I don't shop.
Everyone on our Facebook wrote it to us.
I don't have people on my Facebook.
All right.
It's the best anyway.
You don't know anything.
All right.
Fine.
James Avery.
No.
The shredder.
Dude.
And like everything else.
Oh.
Due to complications.
Now it's time for Will Smith, I guess.
Well, here's the thing.
When, when it happened.
That's Mark.
Everyone started sharing that clip from Fresh Prince of when.
I don't want to talk about him.
He breaks out Lucille.
Man.
The pool hall.
I love that.
So it was really good.
Uncle Phil was the best.
Like, oh, I don't know how to play pool.
Jeffrey breakout Lucille.
Yeah.
That was like, you know, he also did a lot of dog.
He did a lot of other cartoon voices, even a slider shredder.
Like he did.
Like he did.
He was war machine in all the cartoons.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Spock's kid, Spider-Man and everything.
He did a lot of truth.
I didn't even know he was shredder.
And that's a, that's a.
Yeah.
It's one of those things you didn't connect unless you actually looked it up.
Yeah.
It was, it was an awesome fact.
What you found that out.
It is.
It was Uncle Phil.
And it was weird.
It was like.
Or it was Uncle Phil shredder.
Yeah.
A few days before, before he actually died.
Me and my girlfriend watched this old eighties movie where the two Cory guys, you know, Cory
Feldman and Cory.
Hey,
License to Drive and James Avery played a great role.
He's a driving instructor.
And he said, he gets into the thing and goes, I love my coffee.
You're going to drive wherever I say.
If any of my coffee gets on my legs, you fail.
And he plays that role and he has a little thing on the end.
He was super good in that.
Between him and Tony Jay, like, we're running out of.
Oh, God damn it.
Oh, shit.
Tony Jay.
I didn't know about that one.
I know.
I'm joking.
We're running out of evil villain, cool voice actors.
I forgot.
I got contacted from some, like, Toronto newspaper person talking about Tony Jay being
dead because they mentioned him in some video that we made, like even before two best friends
stuff.
Okay.
So I was quoted in this article on this online news site saying, like, all I just said is
Tony Jay was the best megabyte forever.
Yeah.
Like that's all I said.
They got quotes from other people.
We're running out of.
That's what you would have done, but you just used some obscured legacy of game character.
You mean the big squid guy?
The big squid guy.
The Elder God.
The Elder God.
Anyway.
Well, compared to megabyte.
Or sheer con.
Sheer fucking con.
Yeah.
No, we're just, we're running out.
Well, who's left?
There's not everyone's dad.
The guy that sounds like Tony Jay whose name I always forget.
Anyway.
Wow, that must feel really good for that guy.
Yeah.
No, he does a pretty good job.
What do you want me to tell you?
His name.
Me and Plague talked about it a while.
Fair enough.
Fair enough.
Yes.
So, we mentioned it earlier and to elaborate a bit more, Space Dandy.
Space Dandy.
So, the dandiest man in the space.
So, one of the, is it a producer?
I can't remember.
One of the animators.
One of the animators takes to Twitter.
And Space Dandy is being dubbed at the same time as the first thing in Japan.
Which is, like, unprecedented.
Unprecedented.
Fairly unprecedented.
I don't think there's many shows that get this treatment at all.
Well, we talked about Kill the Kill coming out on Crunchyroll, like Simulcast.
Yeah, but that was subbed.
But it just was.
Yeah.
Whereas this is dubbed.
So, apparently, and I haven't watched the dub, and I don't think any of us have watched
the dub and the sub.
I have not watched both.
But apparently, the dub, the way they translated it, some stuff that foreshadows future plot
points got translated out.
Like, points that are going to be important, apparently, are just different things in English.
Well, that's going to happen.
Yeah, you know.
Yeah, so instead of saying my blue hat, they'll say my hat.
Yeah.
And then the animator will go, the fact that the hat is blue is super important.
You know, it's probably more important than blue hat.
Yeah.
And I really do like it.
You know, I just, I don't know what they're referring to, so this is a weird example.
I feel like it's one of those things where it's just like they didn't have these talks
going into it.
So when they translated it, they did a bang-up job of it.
And then now it's like, oh, shit.
This almost seems like the doing it this quickly, when maybe it's not the best.
Well, they didn't get a chance to like-
I think it's less the speed, and it's more just like, there wasn't that meeting.
They didn't sit down and say-
Well, they said-
That's why.
The important notes.
You're doing it now, the whole time.
Yeah, right.
Well, had they seen the full show?
Well, that's what I was about to say, regardless of how, you know, it would have been done.
It's like, when you have the full episodes to look at before you go in, you're like,
no, wait, no.
Your hat needs to be blue.
And it's really a shame, because it's like-
I don't know, this is the example.
The blue hat is the crux of space dance.
It's just like in Yakuza.
It's a shame, because this was such a cool initiative, and it's a shame to just see like
a big trip at the beginning, so I hope that-
Well, watch it some.
I'll check it out in a minute.
That second episode, way better.
I was going to say, I was going to say, like, it will just make it not suck, according to
the way-
Like, dramatic improvement.
Because it's got to find out.
I'm really excited to watch it.
Who brought up the Zapranic Invade?
Well, that was a bit later, but it was just-
Every time I try and go somewhere, you're like,
He's fucking up my delicate plan that I refuse to tell you.
It's fine, but there's an awesome question that someone sent a bit later that's basically
a picture that Space Dandy is-
Adventures of Zapranic in the animation.
That's awesome.
That's the best thing I've ever heard.
That's the best question I've ever heard.
And when you think about it that way, it makes the show more enjoyable.
The fact that Seth MacFarlane gets all his shitty creations, tons and tons of shows,
and Futurama never got a spin-off about the sex-nasium adventures of Zapranic,
is a fucking crime.
Now that Pat's ruined that though, sorry guy who sent that in.
I can't credit you.
I don't know your name.
I would have been able to read it.
No, it's me.
It's me.
It was me.
I said it.
You lied.
I said it.
Why are you full of lies?
Because you told me the lies.
You told me to say this.
You told me the lies before.
It was in the script, Willie.
Well, it might as well be letter time.
It might as well be letter time.
The angriest one.
There's no fighting game news this week.
That was fighting game news.
Ha!
Do you not remember we did Smash Bros. in Tekken?
No.
Oh, no.
Because you said you were going on to fighting games.
I thought that was general purpose news.
But okay.
I said it.
What's up with the letters this week, guy?
If you want to send a man, you probably should send him to a place.
Where would you send those to?
Liam?
I threw you the ball.
Thank you.
Superbestfriendcast.gmail.com.
You should have done it with me.
Matt, where would you send it?
Matt!
Superbestfriendcast.gmail.com.
Yeah!
Now we're all in on it.
Man, I don't even know where to send the emails.
Don't ask me where the PL box is.
No, it's great though.
If you want to send us mail,
if you don't have it written down,
you always just pull a package on the rubble
to read the fucking address.
And what is that address?
Oh, that is Superbestfriends at PO Box 56051
Alexis Neon, Montreal, Quebec, Canada.
What was that address?
Superbestfriends PO Box 56051
Alexis Neon.
Alexis Neon.
Montreal, Quebec, Canada.
Got to say that because Neon doesn't, you know,
it doesn't play well, doesn't play well.
Write it the fuck down somewhere on the thing, please.
Write it on your palm.
Don't worry.
Tattoo it to your, to Matt's forehead.
Thanks.
Once the video goes out.
Once the video goes out.
It'll be fun.
It's also weird that, that serial bit,
which I'm going to turn into a hard-hitting expose
in the MAG Fest video,
I say, spoilers, I bought this in Canada.
And some people are like,
What?
Still!
Everyone's like, have you not missed 52 weeks of podcasts?
Or whatever.
It's fine.
Oh, did you see the, the awesome art of our serials?
Yeah, those are sick.
I did.
I did.
No, I didn't.
I buy those every day.
So, the artist that did the cat drawing.
Gabs, yeah.
Yes.
And all the other awesome little comics of us,
did one for each of us as like serial box stars.
Oh, yeah.
No, I did see that.
Like, America Mats?
Yeah.
Merrimats.
And Pat Crack?
Uh, no, it's like Pat's...
Pat's Snapcrack.
That was something.
Sure.
Pat was there.
Persona!
Yeah.
No, it was Willy's Salty Oats.
Yeah, yours comes with a free personal form.
No, Wooyos.
Salty Oats.
Salty Oats or whatever.
I know it was yours.
I didn't look at them long enough.
It was like Moe or something.
Yeah.
It was really cute.
Liam was like,
I refused to drop this crap.
No, it was really cute and fluffy.
My serial was the best.
And you got a lot of the accurate, like,
we're staring into the bowl?
Yeah.
Because that's what we want.
That's what all mascots do.
They're like,
look at this fucking shit in this bowl.
Yo, I'm still weirded out by Snapcrackle and Pop
on the American Box.
Okay, they're so shiny.
They're so shiny.
They're so shiny.
They look like Botox stuff and stuff.
Every mascot in the States is like that.
It's mad.
It's really weird.
I'm gonna show you later.
What they do is Snapcrackle and Pop.
Oh, they did bad things.
The only difference between...
Not the only difference,
but a main difference between Canadian
and American serial is they put a blend
gradient filter on all the characters
to make them look shinier.
Why?
I don't know.
Okay, I have a box of Rice Krispies
Crispex over there,
and Snapcrackle and Pop are super...
They look like they're from a Disney cartoon.
They look perfect.
But I think we need to show...
Christine.
Everybody, like, what the flat-colored ones
were used to.
Yeah, well, I did that in a video.
This doesn't work.
I'm gonna make a hard-hitting expose
about the differences between them.
And when you do it,
when you do it,
make sure to have milk in a bag.
Yes, of course.
That's the crux of the whole thing.
Right?
Fuck them up.
Wow, we're never getting to question time.
But you gotta keep them on your toes.
Hey, Wally, what kind of questions
do people ask?
This is great.
We've got a question coming in front.
Matt's fridge is going nuts.
Matt's fridge.
Do you have a question for us?
It's probably barely hearable, you idiots.
I'm super cold.
I can hear it.
Not for 53,000 people to listen to right now.
Yeah, Matt,
can you get these dead bodies out of me, please?
No, Peter...
I need fresher ones.
It's a volumetric former employee.
Hey, if you're gonna go with dead bodies
and assume that the fridge is talking...
Right.
Right.
Why would I have a talking fridge?
It's like Johnny the homicidal maniac.
You gotta keep that bloody wall of fresh red paint.
You gotta keep painting that wall.
Don't let it dry, Johnny.
Oh, we're never gonna get to questions.
Peter asks...
Why do people keep taking photos of me as Spider-Man?
Okay, so assuming that you got the Adventures of Zubas
ready for production.
Yes, we do.
Who would you get to voice Zubas?
John Saint John.
Thank you.
Because we worked this all out.
We already had this worked out once.
This was a plan.
A year ago?
Yes, we had the dossier.
John Saint John.
We were gonna get in contact and set it up
and it actually didn't work out.
We almost did.
We almost did.
It didn't work out with dive kick.
That being said, the guy that voices Zubas
and dive kick is fine.
He's fantastic.
You're gonna go and say it then?
Yeah.
Explain it.
The guy who voices him in dive kick is totally great.
He nails it, but we absolutely were gonna get in touch
with John Saint John to do all those things.
By the way, for those that don't know,
he's the voice of Duke Nukem.
Yes.
Picture the voice of Duke Nukem going,
I'm the best.
That's great.
That was kind of the intent.
It was the intent.
Yeah.
But all things are not to pass.
Expected in the future, though.
Maybe.
Unless John Saint John dies.
Maybe.
But yeah, that's it.
Yeah, Liam's sad now.
I'm sad now.
Koji wants to know.
Ooh, Koji pro.
Dear super best friend cast.
I was just wondering.
Is this Kojima?
Yeah.
I am Kojima.
I don't know.
Koji pro.
I know.
It's Kojima's jacket is finally writing a sin
for all the compliments.
Nice.
He's like, I'm okay, though.
I was thinking.
I was wondering if you guys think
that Smash Brothers is considered a fighting game.
No.
That's funny.
You should ask Koji.
Oh my God.
Why?
Because if you ask Google that question,
guess what the second result is?
What?
A video from us.
Oh, you are a show.
An episode of fighter pedia.
What's fighter pedia?
I don't know.
What is that?
But there's an episode of it called
is Smash Brothers a fighting game.
And the answer is no.
Tune into that to get the answer to your question.
How do you know why I'm saying no?
It's just way more serious than that.
Spoilers.
Spoilers.
The answer is no.
I wasn't around at the time,
but I'm going to go ahead and say yes.
Yeah, you were in a fetus.
Matt, it's too late.
You've already let everyone know
that you like fighter pedia.
It's also barely a fight.
It's barely a video game to begin with.
Is Smash Brothers even a video game?
No.
No, it's a way of life.
But like, yes.
It's an elaborate screen saver.
It's totally a fighting game.
Dude, when you said that about God Home,
like, oh God, anyway.
Andy just says...
Andy, you should probably take care of Mai better.
This one, she needs it bad.
If you won't do it, I won't.
Hey Andy, he just says, hey guys,
I just got robbed really hard
and it shit, it really sucks.
That sucks.
Andy, I'm sorry to hear that.
What's the question?
Have you guys had any similar
or like relatable experiences
to this shitty feeling he's having right now?
Not much other than I got the, like,
the week after I got my DS lights
and I had Phoenix rights
and both were brand new.
I got it lifted out of my pocket
at a local mall.
That's rough.
That's rough.
Out of your pocket.
I was really young at the time
so it didn't really like impact me too much.
But no, we got robbed super bad
when I was four years old
and like, they took everything.
They took the horses and the sheep.
Goddamn blanket off my bed.
They took all my Lego.
Who the fuck steals Lego?
That's what I'm saying.
Like, they took everything.
This wasn't out in the woods, was it?
Not in the woods, but in the country, yeah.
On the farm.
It wasn't on the farm?
No, this house wasn't on the farm.
Okay.
It was out there.
Isn't that how you just get shot and die?
Like, trying to trespass on a farm?
Not if your mom doesn't have a gun.
And if you're not there?
No, because your dad was super killer.
It was in my mom's place.
It was in my mom's place.
There's no gun for starters.
I thought you came from a hunting family, Liam.
Did you?
My dad's side, yeah.
Did you have like 30 cool guard dogs?
No.
Oh, you should not have had a cool guard dog.
That was when we got an alarm system.
Well, usually that's when people get one.
I remember the week after the alarm guys coming and I was saying,
who are these guys?
And they were like, oh, it's an alarm.
Oh, it's really loud.
That'll do it.
I just thought that like the purest, most like badass hunter guy
and the purest, most badass hunter girl bred a little boy child
and that's how Liam came to be.
I can disprove this myth.
Okay.
Yeah.
A plus A equals B?
Oh, no.
No.
Sorry.
When I was a little kid, I haven't done anything slow
and I can't remember for me for like years and years,
but I was like, the littlest of Matthew Jr. sharp pants is,
I had the G.I. Joe jet with the shark face on it.
Dude, that thing was, oh, I had that and all the missiles
and I lost every single one of them.
Of course you did.
We all did.
Oh, yeah.
I was literally playing in the backyard with my friend
and then my mom calls us for lunch.
We go inside, we have lunch and we watch like one cartoon,
go on a thing, all our G.I. Joe's are gone.
Wow.
Some fucking kid.
Was it your friend?
No, because he was with me the entire time,
unless he had a man on the inside.
It was Bless.
It was, no.
I'd love to blame it on Bless, but no.
This is a pre-Bless event.
Yeah.
No, it's PB.
Right?
That's what I'm saying.
Like little baby gangster comes in, takes all your shit
and goes, platinum bird, motherfucker.
Yo, this is my time.
Anyway, so yeah, we never found out who it did
and like I was really sad and pathetic.
Of course.
I thought it was like a cat or a dog,
so I drew a picture of the jet
and I went up to people's houses.
Have you seen the jet?
Oh.
No one fucking owned me.
That's super sad.
Yeah, no.
The three ones that scar me,
that make me fucking hate anyone.
Oh God, if you fucking...
Does your Hulk dog getting smashed?
No, no, no.
That was stolen from your light, no.
Dude, I have zero tolerance for thieves and like...
Really?
Because everyone else has a really high tolerance.
Yeah.
It should be zero tolerance though.
Yeah, like it's such a pet peeve
and it's like the three stories
that fucking destroyed me, obviously.
The one being the day I had my Zelda Ocarina of Time money
on me to go buy it after school,
went to gym class, locked it up in my locker,
dude fucking came in, kicked my locker open,
took my Zelda money.
That's bullshit.
Do people know you were gonna...
He just fucking went into people's lockers and took shit
and he got lucky that day.
He got lucky that day.
He got lucky that day and he fucking like...
Did you kill him?
We pulled him to the office,
tried to do whatever the fuck.
No, couldn't prove anything, nothing going on.
You should have killed him.
Later on...
No cameras back then.
Well, whatever.
Later on, Adam, his name was,
he fucking gets pulled over and sent to juvie
for stealing a car, getting drunk,
and driving it down the road.
There was a copy of Zelda in the back of the car.
Yeah.
And of course, months later,
after that whole thing got processed,
I get a check in the mail randomly
from one Adam's parents for 110 or...
Oh, that's awesome!
Just because the courts processed it.
Right.
As a thing.
That's good.
So that was cool.
So like, it sent somewhere in his school records
that he was accused of stealing a car.
Exactly.
We pulled him into the office.
But now it's something we're talking about.
And they were like,
well, this kid's clearly a fucking criminal.
Exactly.
Process all this shit.
Everything went through.
It went through.
Yeah.
There was also a time when my green,
not my green,
I got my purple Game Boy Color.
The atomic purple one?
The atomic purple Game Boy Color.
Got that nice and early and fucking,
again, locker.
Yeah.
Right?
Brought it to Adam!
Yeah, it wasn't him that time.
And then there was my other,
there was a guy that was my friend, Nick.
And I, well, it wasn't a friend,
it was an acquaintance.
And he had an atomic purple one
that I just saw for the first time that day.
And I'm like, where the fuck?
Where the fuck, Nick?
He's like, no, dude, my grandmother bought this.
And I'm like, really?
Really?
This guy sort of got it.
I'm like, why have I never seen it before?
And he's like, dude, I don't know.
But I'm like, okay, no.
And I'm like, I'm going to come,
I'm going to come ask your grandmother.
Did you kill him?
No.
But I went to his house.
These people are all dead.
I went to his house after work,
after school because he lived near me.
Right.
And I confirmed with his parents and his grandmother,
yes, this is the gift he got.
Oh.
By the way, that makes you look like a horrible asshole.
Sure.
But you know what?
I had nothing and I was super pissed
because that's the only one I saw.
Sure, asshole.
The same day.
Yeah.
But you know what?
I said, I'm sorry.
I got the confirmation because I had nothing else to go on.
So you never got it back?
Never got it back.
Now I bought the replacement, the lime green one,
but fuck, it really sucked.
You know?
Yeah, I know.
What's the third one?
Well, the fucking Grenada story.
Oh, which one's that?
Where like, I'm in the kitchen.
You got the machete?
And then like, I love the machete, dude.
And I run back into the room to go get my report card
to show my mom and there's a dude on the window
so with a fucking cutlass.
And he goes, shh, I'm coming back.
And he jumps out the window on the second story.
And I fucking shit my pants and run back to the room.
What do you steal?
He stole my brother's violin and my grandmother's jewelry.
That's brutal.
That's brutal.
Yeah.
What a specific thing.
That's expensive.
It was so weird.
Yeah, those are high-end, like, high-class items
for a dude with cutlass.
Yeah.
Yeah, no shirt, black pants.
You know what he should have done?
He should have stole the violin and you and your brother walk in
and he's playing it.
No, that's mine.
And he just plays it.
Yeah, exactly.
Ah, yeah.
Running off into the distance.
Did it cry for me to the child?
He just does that.
Fiddle that on the fucking roof.
Yeah.
All this talk about robbery reminds me of probably
the most disgusting incident of robbery I ever saw in my life.
You, Matt, and you, Woolly, I believe you were there at the time
when E walked into the club, held a laptop over his head
and said, yo, I just ganked this.
Who wants it?
Oh, I forgot.
He's also stole all my Street Fighter comics from the club space.
Absolutely.
That's part of the reason.
Fuck that dirtbag.
Yeah, Matt wasn't as pissed as the G.I. Joe Jep.
I was like, man, what a shitbag.
No, when I banished him from this earth,
it was a big reason why.
Big reason why is because he stole all the comics from the club space.
Yeah.
And you gave them, and my other good friends gave them,
and I had my friend from my program donated a bunch of art books,
and he just didn't give a fuck.
Who the fuck walks into a public space and holds up an item
and says, I just stole this laptop.
Yeah.
I'll sell it to someone for 100 bucks.
Club Dominic.
Fuck that.
Everybody get my friend.
And then when you get fucking expelled from college grounds,
for reasons, yeah.
Everyone goes, wait.
Yeah.
And he goes, I don't get it.
What do you mean?
It's like, no, dude, you're damaged.
Anyways, thieves are the worst moving on.
Well, there are a couple tears of criminal that are worse than thieves.
Sure.
But what's so good of Hell is thieves?
It's not.
I don't think it's a specific one.
It's way above traitors.
Traitors is number one.
Traitors is the lowest.
Well, number nine, whatever.
They know.
I'm sorry.
The worst layer of Hell is the one with all the Sonic cosplayers dancing around.
That's true.
No, you actually go way deeper into caribleness and the original traitors and Judas and those
guys.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Thieves are somewhere in the middle there.
Yeah.
Thieves should all get their hand cut off.
And Luttony.
Not Luttony.
Averus.
Averus is number four.
So they're number like four.
The deal is though, you're totally right.
There's things way worse than thieves.
Yeah.
But thieving is so much more common.
But my bias and my hatred pushes you down with those.
No, no, I get it because it's such a petty thing that you don't need to do.
Yeah.
That doesn't really result in anything.
Hey, you need to steal my Xbox to feed your family.
That's one thing.
But if it's your child eat this Xbox or your crack habit because Pat endorses those.
But I didn't say nothing.
A big stamp that says approve.
But if you're just taking it because fucking I want your stuff.
Yeah.
I need money for drugs.
No, not even.
I want your stuff.
I want your stuff is bad too.
Yeah.
I'm not going to sell it.
I'm going to just use it like it's mine now.
No, that one's bad too for sure.
Did I tell you guys a story about that guy that was in a dorm?
Probably.
His Xbox got stolen.
His 360.
I remember this.
But not the controller.
So he fucking walked around turning the controller on and on.
Waiting for it to sink.
And it finally did.
And then he went a floor up and then it synced again.
And then went a floor up again and it did it.
So he's like, okay, I know exactly which floor it's on.
Was this dude fucking named Sherlock?
All right.
He tracked it down and fucking sure enough he got the RA to go.
It has to be here.
Went into the guy's thing and totally saw this dude was stealing from everyone.
Have to make sure your RA is cool knows what's up because you try to explain that type of
thing to like an old guy.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Animal house.
Where is the wire?
Robot house.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Cause like, let's say you get accused of murder.
You can make up a million excuses to crime of passion.
It was revenge and self-defense.
I was drunk.
I was drunk.
Well, anyway, you can do those things.
But if you're accused of thievery, it's like, no, I wanted it.
Like, you know.
I had to.
For reasons.
And unless you're in a Charles Dickens novel, you can't say it was to feed my family.
Or like to give to the poor.
Or give to the poor.
You know.
I didn't have it.
And I wanted it.
I wanted to have it.
The best course of action was to take.
Yes.
Yeah.
That's where you hope the judge just hammers the gavel down.
Fucking hand.
And wizard barista style.
Oh, god damn it.
Anyway.
Why are you still saying barista?
What is everyone saying?
Baristas.
Yeah.
It's about Starbucks wizards.
Yeah, exactly.
They do magic.
That's how they make those tricks.
Hammer was sick.
Dude.
A butter beer.
Fire whiskey.
That was a good question.
That was a good question.
Sorry.
Apparently it was shit.
No.
But it looks so delicious.
I know.
That's what I said.
Hey, what was shit?
Apparently the butter beer at the like Harry Potter universal, whatever.
Wait.
You know, they like recreated Diagon Alley or something.
Oh.
Apparently it's not good.
Wait.
Does your sister like beer?
No, she's underage.
It's not alcohol.
I know.
But does she like the taste of it?
This is important to know.
No, but I'm pretty sure.
This is really important.
In Harry Potter, butter beer is not alcohol, nor does it taste like alcohol.
There's no alcohol, but I think it tastes like beer.
No, I'm pretty sure it tastes warm and creamy like butter.
In Harry Potter universe, like butter beer is like the de facto drink that all kids drink.
Yeah.
But actual alcohol that they're not allowed is usually fire whiskey.
Fire whiskey.
Yeah.
Which already exists.
Which I know because of reasons.
Reasons.
But no, I went to a chapter's opening with a friend that was like, oh, you gotta come
with me at Harry Potter thing.
I need like a friend to keep me company.
And the chapters at the Starbucks, they started making butter beer and fire whiskey.
And she said those drinks were excellent.
My friend told me the exact same story, including the excellent.
Apparently at the universal thing.
Butter beer is not great.
Yeah.
What else does your sister like?
Because maybe her taste is...
She likes mues.
Where are we going with this?
Oh, okay.
Why are you asking about what Liam's sister likes to taste?
Because I really hope butter beer tastes good because I saw a picture of it.
Oh, okay.
And it does, apparently, at chapters.
It looks so delicious.
Wait for the next Harry Potter book.
It's the only time you'll get it.
Which is going to happen.
Yeah.
I don't know if you...
I know.
Harry Potter, I need more money.
Yeah.
But on the other side, I want more Harry Potter.
Yeah.
I will give you more money.
Exactly.
She secretly wrote another book as another alias.
And like, eventually people just found around.
She's like, no, stop buying it.
It was supposed to be absurd.
Harry Potter 8, never back down.
The revenge.
The back down.
Stuart wants to know.
Hey, Stuart.
Hey, guys.
What's up, guys?
Hey, Stuart.
This is a good one.
I'm getting a four-slot Neo Geo cabinet soon.
And I'm trying to decide what games to get for it.
All of them.
One slot is definitely going to be win jammers.
I was just going to say win jammers, yeah.
My man.
You don't need any other games.
Yeah, you do.
Can you put three more win jammers in?
Four win jammers.
Four win jammers.
You need Garo.
You need KOF 98.
Okay, okay.
Well, a metal slug.
So it's a four-slot.
It's a four-slot.
So that means it's an M.V.S. cartoon.
You have to have two fighting games.
Garo to have.
No, here's the two.
I swear to God, if you say Sam's Show 2, I'm going to stab you.
No, no, no.
Garo has to be in this.
Okay, good.
Right?
And then you can choose between Sam's Show 4 or Last Blade.
I was just going to say.
Last Blade 2 together.
Not KOF 98?
No, you want differences.
Like, Garo.
You can play KOF 98 on everything.
Mark of the Wolves covers the KOF types.
Then you need the Weapon Fighter.
And Sam's Show and Last Blade are fantastic.
And the last one, you all participate.
Magician Lord.
No.
No, I honestly...
Magician Lord's all right.
I would say Puzzle Bobble.
Puzzle Bobble's...
Or Magical Drop.
Because those two games are super addictive.
Magical Drop 3 is really good.
But those are good ways to go.
Metal Slug.
Because Metal Slug's really good.
But which one?
Yeah.
Right?
3D.
Which way?
Metal Slug 3.
I agree.
Which fucking way?
You guys are bastards.
Maybe it's funny that we have a really dark ending to this story.
I was like, hey guys, I wasn't able to actually get the cabinet.
So I just bought a copy of Mira.
Oh, fuck Mira.
What's Mira?
It's K-O-M.
Maximum.
Maximum.
Maximum.
Maximum.
Maximum.
Maximum.
Maximum.
Maximum.
Maximum.
Maximum.
Maximum.
Maximum.
Maximum.
Maximum.
Maximum in impact announcers is the worst of all time.
It's probably the greatest.
Go look it up.
It's the greatest.
You know what?
Both.
Ash Gr answer.
ちきすねじ.
You guys are making these contorted faces as you do it.
Well, that's like your fucking face.
His face feels like a capital cake.
The announcement was a spurt, man.
It was like a fucking, its losing his mind.
He's losing his mind.
The only thing I want to say about Mera really quickly was that remember when we found out
I had all those weird fighters and other stuff, like fighters history?
Oh, well that came in in Regulation A.
Yeah.
Mizoguchi.
Mizoguchi.
And I was like, well, this is crazy.
And then Nia?
Fio.
Fio, Fio.
Sorry.
Yeah.
All those Metal Slug characters, that was cool.
Only because Falcun was in charge of it.
Ah, that's true.
And he was just obsessed with those characters.
The best thing about Regulation A is that K-dash has a super in which he just does a thumbs
down that hits like a million times.
The other best thing about Regulation A is that Falcun just got to put himself as a girl
in.
Yep, yep.
What was her name?
I forget her fucking name.
Manasseh.
Ah, no.
And she's a descendant of Hanzo from the Federation.
Oh, shut up.
Oh, man.
But hey, they had Ray and Asuka colors for Leona.
All those colors?
Those were amazing.
Yes.
Amazing colors.
And Skullgirls doesn't have that cool nice name.
No.
Skullgirls have that.
Skullgirls have some speciality.
Those Skullgirls have 17 different alts.
Like Geet Howard just became every final boss from every SNK fighting game.
And I'm sorry, but Nightmare Geese is the, like, you know, dark or violent.
Nightmare is the best.
Terry Bogard and Wild Wolf.
Wild Wolf.
Oh, shit.
I forgot that.
Holy shit.
I want to come back.
I want to hear it right now.
Do you not remember my demos?
I used to take people.
I never did this for you, but thank God.
But for everybody, I used to take everybody, sit them down, and show them all the cool shit.
It took about an hour, but it's a presentation of all the costume use.
Who are you taking your shirt off?
All the cool shit's in here.
Don't forget that cut scene of Terry when, what's her face?
The butterfly girl?
She disappears, and Terry goes, Jesus!
Jesus!
And then back, or, uh, shit-o.
Shit-o.
It's the best.
I love you, Terry Bogard.
I love you, Mira.
Yeah, Mira.
Mira's legendary.
I love how we started off like, oh, fuck Mira.
No, it just immediately came around.
Okay, I have to, the important distinction being that a lot of those extra costumes and funny
shade and cut scenes are not in Mira.
They're in Maximum Impact 2.
Regulation A cut out a lot of the extras and only had four costumes.
Okay, there's three games.
Maximum Impact 1, Maximum Impact 2, and Maximum Impact 2, Regulation A.
So it's only in Maximum Impact 2.
Regulation A just added Ash Crimson and, like, some other new-
Ash Crimson and Mizuguchi with the Taiga Mizuka.
Taiga Mizuka!
Man, I haven't heard anybody talk about Falcoon in forever.
Why would you hear that?
It's like, it's so weird because he had so much pull for KOF for so long and then SNK
turned against him so hard that they're erasing his characters from history.
Did he quit or did they fire him?
I don't know, but considering Mira did so well.
Yeah.
But considering, like, Ash Crimson is being removed from time in the ending of KOF 13,
like, that doesn't seem like a weird day ended on good terms.
But he stuck around way after Mira, like, Falcoon got fired and left.
They kept him and Falcoon's other characters, Shen Wu, Duolan, and so on and so forth.
He made Shen Wu?
Yeah, he also made Momo.
But he made Shen Wu.
He invented the team entirely.
I did not know that.
And Shen Wu's the biggest fucking badass of all time.
Shen Wu, the new K-Dash for fan girls.
Shen Wu.
Whatever.
I literally thought he only worked on the maximum impact.
Shen Wu, Shen Wu, what's the difference?
What's your moves?
I punch dudes.
They're both of them.
What's your special?
I blow up.
Yeah.
Exploding reality.
Anyway.
Anyway.
Uh, yeah, so thanks for no one asking about King of Fighters.
That's what happens.
Okay.
Yes, Paul was going to say Space Dan B is a zap brand again in the anime, moving along.
Thanks, Paul.
Thank you, Paul.
I stole your thing.
Love you, Paul.
Fenrir has a question for Liam.
That's not a real guy.
That's a cool God-eater name.
Liam.
It's a wolf god.
Wolf god.
I hear that you're a fan of Black Rock Shooter.
Oh, god.
What's your favorite installment of the first show?
The figurines.
Yeah.
Black Rock Shooter is such a, it's a weird thing.
The music's my favorite if I can cop out and just say the song.
Cause the movie kinda isn't great and it just doesn't do anything special at all.
And the show is just, the show is a, it's a school girl anime and they made like a CG
action anime on the side.
It's weird.
And they just kind of shoved them together.
Sounds like full metal pan out.
No.
And I don't feel like, I really, I've been wanting to do this for a while to take it
out the action bits and see if it still works.
And vice versa.
Cause I think it would.
And I just don't think either anime is very good.
I was gonna say whenever someone thinks it's doing something like that, you take out the
action bits and everything is still good.
Usually the answer is no.
Probably.
But I really feel like this shows the exception.
Okay.
Episode one.
The edit.
The Phantom edit.
The Phantom edit, I'm sure.
I like super cop out answer.
I think the best bits of Black Rock Shooter are everything that's not the animation.
The games not ultra hot is unfortunately.
That is a cop out.
It is a cop out.
But if I had to pick one of the animes, it would be the movie.
You could have just said like the first song.
The one picture.
The song.
And then blah.
The song.
Yeah.
That's it.
Sure.
No.
But like all the other characters' lines are cool though.
That's just a great question for you.
Alright.
No, it's an interesting question.
Cause there's a lot of media stuff around it.
You're fucking never calling yourself as your woolly questions.
No, it's a.
There you go.
Not a huge fan of the animes, but I think if you had to watch one, the movie's about
the use of your time.
When was the last time you packed on a question?
Other than why are you guys losing your hair so much?
Why are you guys losing your hair so much?
You remember where I set up you talking about your toys for like a nice 10 minutes.
Thanks Fenrir.
And I don't, I think I took a maybe 10 seconds.
If you're the real Wolf God, can you write back and say that you're the real Wolf God?
Cause that's cool.
Also, I'm not biased cause I have a sick Black Rock Shooter figure all over my computer.
Doesn't that make you super biased?
I've seen it.
No.
That makes me less biased.
I thought that I was willing to buy a huge figure after seeing the anime.
You get the fire on the one yet?
It ships in February.
You have a sick Black Rock Shooter all over your computer.
Figure all over your computer.
Figure all over your computer.
You have a sick Black Rock Shooter all over your computer.
Like a gun?
Moving on.
And you're not all over your Black Rock Shooter figure.
Moving on.
SBFC Ask Me wants to know, do you guys scroll through your mail in real time or do you
start questions throughout the week and then delete them as you answer?
Yes.
We start questions throughout the week and delete them as we answer.
But more importantly, there's a group, there's a...
Oh yeah.
This is weird.
I'm answering the question but there's an email that's super best friend ask, super best
friends ask at gmail.com and I'm like, this is a group of people because they've been
asking a bunch of questions.
Who is these people?
Who are you guys?
Who is you?
And why are you doing this instead of sending in unique emails?
Why are you not, are you afraid that we will like...
No, and we're not, we're not attacking.
We're just really curious.
What are you doing?
Who are you?
What group of internet are you up to?
Yeah.
You know?
Because that's cool.
What a mysterious mailbag.
It's strange.
It's very strange.
I don't know.
Yeah.
It's interesting.
Pablo asks, I know super best friends watch had a rocky history.
That's true.
Are they doing commentary tracks for movies?
Yes.
We just talked about that.
We just talked about that.
And how we couldn't do it.
No, but I think in general, like, I think maybe they mean riff tracks.
Maybe it's riff tracks.
Either that or just a straight audio recording commentary track.
I was thinking, we watched the Bible Black I bought.
Oh my god.
Oh my god.
But we literally...
When did we do it?
But we literally put the camera on ourselves and it's just...
Fuck that.
Super best friends react to Bible Black and that gets over all the copyright content.
Oh man.
Zone 10 would be proud.
That sounds terribly embarrassing.
Zone 10 would be proud.
Yeah, no, exactly.
It made it for great TV.
But everyone would...
Dude, every time zone posts talk about videos, it's like...
Because someone will sync up the time.
What?
Someone will sync up the time.
Someone will do it.
And watch them in neighboring windows.
We should do it.
Oh, I don't want to do that.
We should do it.
That's a good idea.
That's a really bad idea.
James P. asks, I know this is a...
What's your favorite question?
But let's try it anyway.
Those are fine sometimes.
What is your favorite video game tutorial?
Ooh, right?
That's really good.
Isn't that a good one?
I know it right off the bat.
That's the one I was reading earlier.
I went, ooh, like before...
I know, I have an answer.
Well, I'm kind of going for the modern thing because modern ones are the ones that actually
have problems, right?
Yeah, okay.
Gain them.
Deus Ex is what tutorials, when you have a big complicated game, a thing pops up, does
not interrupt your movement and says, do you want to learn about this?
Press hold on the back button or start and then you do not do it.
Last story also...
Last story does that.
The video is showing you a thing.
The videos that show you, that's an excellent thing.
But Deus Ex Revolution, when I first played it, I was like, oh yes, this is how you do
one.
You can't cop out and say games with no tutorial like 3D World.
I think Revengeance is really good because it's got a good premise where it's all VR
and it's just like, do this, do this, do this, but he's like, you know, they're in personality
and in character.
Yeah, that works for a lot.
I think that was a fun one.
Does Finn and his loading screen count?
No.
It's not tutorial.
Yeah.
God, we're probably glossing over a really stupid good one.
You know there's probably some great ones out there.
Dark Souls.
Oh, it does have a tutorial.
Yeah, you're right.
Dark Souls' tutorial is the asylum in which it's the first area of the game.
You leave your cell, the button prompts for every action are written on the floor.
You then go through the area and it has new stuff written on the floor as you would encounter
them.
Yeah.
Right away, you're put against a boss that you can't beat and then later, after you learn
the rest of your attacks, they say, go fucking beat that boss.
Yeah.
Right now.
I got a good one.
Follow.
And the only one better than that is the Demon's Soul's tutorial, which is the same but more
nuanced and you always die.
And you almost always die.
No, you always die.
No, even if you beat the boss, it teleports you to the dragon god who then kills you.
Oh, of course, of course, but like you can be dead.
A really good one is Shadow Complex.
Yeah.
The intro level is where you're playing as a totally different guy and you have all
the powers.
Yeah.
And you just get a nice little.
Nice little abilities.
It's the Metroid kind of start with your powers.
Abilities.
Yes.
But it really demos everything for you.
Yeah.
You got to swing.
You got to do all that shit.
And then you.
All right.
That's what it's going to be.
I got another one actually.
I would say Portal, but Portal 2 made me laugh more.
Portal 2.
Portal is like the whole game is like a tutorial.
But yeah, but it was good.
You remember like press A to talk and then you jump.
Yeah.
Oh, I, you know, it was funny and it was clever about what it did.
So I really like Portal 2's.
Yeah.
I mean, the first one was great too.
For fighting games.
I mean, it was really touted that Killer Instincts.
You did all of them.
All of them.
Yeah.
Like where do you think like for teaching fighting game fundamentals and the actual
systems or whatever game is there one that stands out really well?
I haven't done even close to any of them.
Persona has a pretty.
Yeah.
Persona is really good.
Persona has a pretty.
Street Fighter is just awful.
Because they don't have a tree.
That's right.
That's right.
That's right.
They need to get on that.
Kaila 13's is okay.
It's so fucking hard.
Yeah.
It's so fucking hard, but it teaches you what you need to know.
It's pretty good.
It does teach you all the mechanics at least.
Skullgirls.
K.I.
Skullgirls is great as well.
K.I.
is really up there.
If you sit, the only thing is it's like it's a lot of reading, but if you're down
to like learn for real, it's really high up there.
Because it also doesn't teach you just the game.
It teaches you like fighting games, cross-ons.
Ideas.
Yeah.
Ideas, concepts.
Ideas that you might not otherwise have come up with on your own.
But I don't think anything will ever beat Virtua Fighter.
Virtua Fighter 4.
4.
Yeah.
4, I don't remember.
2, 2, 1, Evo.
Oh shit.
Oh my god.
Well, nothing will beat that, but VF5 Final Showdowns is not that level of ridiculousness,
but it's still very intense.
Okay.
But VF4, Evo was the most outlandish shit ever.
They would have like throw set up tutorials for every character uniquely.
Here's how you set up Wolves like F5.
No, you finish that and like you're ready to begin getting beasted in Japanese arcades.
Like that's where you get spit out.
You know?
And I don't know if you remember the description I gave you one time years ago for learning
characters in Virtua Fighter.
Yeah, no.
You get to learn one, then you learn a second one, and if you try and learn a third, the
first one gets pushed out of your head.
Like, hey man, I really should pick up Jackie.
Are you sure you want to delete Wolves?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I think you also described learning curves and you said Virtua Fighter 4 I think it was
at the time.
You're like it doesn't have a curve, it's an upside down backwards cliff.
It's a learning wall.
It's something that's more than vertical.
Yeah.
You get curves backwards.
Exactly.
I saw Salise Triangle.
You're walking up to it.
Virtua Fighter 4 is the fighting equivalent of Eve Online.
Shoutouts to Smash Bros' tutorial videos.
I like those things.
Tap up on the stick to jump.
Yeah.
And they found a way to make them more and more concise each time as you build percentage.
Oh!
Oh!
Yeah, exactly.
They did a lot of personality those things.
Those were fun.
Yeah.
Those were fun.
They didn't teach you how to fucking wave dash or foxtrot though.
No, but I mean.
Those weren't supposed to be in the game because it's not a fighting game.
Or sex kicking or tripping.
That's true.
It's barely in the game.
A sex kick is a move.
They teach you how to do the air move.
They don't tell you that it's called a sex kick because it's not quite the sex kick.
It's called the bear.
What?
No, it's called a sex kick.
No.
It's the bear.
What are you saying?
It's the back air.
Yeah, I got that.
It's the back air.
Yeah.
And you're dare.
You're down air.
And you're bear.
Where?
Up air.
Are you really saving that much time by saying it like that?
Or that Ness, not Ness, Lucas, switch to the D-pad thing, do you know what I'm talking
about?
With the C stick.
You can DI some of his moves in a way that you're not originally supposed to if you switch
to D-pad controls.
I don't know.
I never touch.
Lucas is the first character I've played as, and then I haven't played it since 2007.
There's some crazy obscure thing, like hitbox style.
You sure it's not just like funny C stick smash?
No, it's DI-ing.
It's DI-ing his PK fire in a way that you're not originally supposed to.
I thought the D-pad was taunts.
No, you can remap.
You remap, and it allows you to do something.
Yeah, maybe.
I can believe it.
There's a lot of shenanigans.
Plus, to be expected from a game that's not really a fighting game, how have God blighted
Pat this week?
Oh, we're back on this.
Nothing much.
This week's pretty good.
Sick.
Nothing bad happened.
Who is Matt stalking today?
I just want to give shoutouts to Princess of Sloth and Castiel who run the stream.
What about Shadrack?
What?
Shadrack wasn't there.
But she's talking about the specific thing.
Okay, but Shadrack started it.
Yeah, no, Shadrack started it for sure.
Just because, again, I wanted to apologize for blowing up with me.
They're like, Matt, are you okay?
I'm like, sorry, I'm just so sorry this happened.
I'm going to go play a David Cage game now.
They're like, no, I'm not doing that.
No, we're sorry.
We're all sorry.
So yeah.
And like I said, we watched those cool Japanese matches.
Yeah, it was no add to funny dancing videos.
Crush 40 versus Slam Jam.
Exactly.
That's when I just came in.
No, they did it for me too.
It was really good.
So that was really fun.
And like, there were good sports about the whole thing.
But keep the quiet things quiet.
Keep the quiet things quiet.
Safe places.
What's going on?
Yeah, what's going on in the channel, guys?
Disaster returns.
It's back.
We filmed more of it.
In Pog form.
Yeah.
Oh my God.
Pogs.
A Pog game where it's disaster or deadly premonition.
Do they, like, all the slammers or what?
That'd be great.
Ow.
Every time we talk about disaster, I can't believe it's still going.
It's such a long game.
That's awesome.
There's more.
I have no mouth, obviously, incoming.
But I'm not going to talk about it anymore, because I don't know what parts are where.
And I've been wrong twice now.
I still what's upcoming, because the schedule keeps getting turned around on me,
and I have no idea when anything's coming out.
But it's good.
More screaming is on the way.
With no mouth, though.
Don't expect that.
No mouth.
And, of course, more yakuza, because that Japanese trip will never end.
Yakuza is crazy fun.
Like I mentioned before, there'll probably be at least one video this week
where me and Molly take a look at something dumb.
Yeah, yeah.
Which one of you, you say yakuza.
Do you say yakuza?
I say yakuza.
You say yakuza.
Sometimes I go yakuza.
Sometimes I go yakuza.
Because, yeah, some people are giving shit.
And we're like, it's fucking yakuza.
What are you doing?
Yeah.
Yeah, okay.
We're all pronouncing it incorrectly, because I'm not saying of the Japanese accent.
Yeah, you're not acting like that.
I'm not saying ryu, or whatever I'm supposed to say.
Ryu.
That's ryu you are.
Man, Seth Kylian saying ryu pissed me off for so many years.
As it should.
But I was so happy when there was this awesome player slash bugan guy
that made his name r-e-u, specifically because of that.
That's funny.
And he started by it.
Wouldn't that be like ryu?
Yeah, it would.
In fact, r-u-e is a word.
Like ryu.
Turns out it wasn't pronounced Ken.
Oh, r-u-e.
I heard it was pronounced Keen.
That's where I was going.
Oh, you guys.
Oh, you guys.
I was really, remember when that really nice guy paid for our meal at Magfast?
He's a guy on Ken.
I was like in my head, I was going Keen.
I'm so sad that weekly tube show is gone.
What?
Oh, weekly tube show.
What happened?
That was months and months ago.
Yeah, they just said guys were done.
Oh.
We can't do anymore.
We're done now.
It's too much work.
So no more fist and north star dub, double and north star.
Oh, but hey.
It's time to steal their idea.
Attack on Titan.
The bridge says the thing.
That's nice.
Yeah, but that's a different group.
That's still going.
So that's cool.
That shit was great.
It's not the same though.
It'll never be the same.
You said Street Fighter was still going.
I can't believe I have to use my Titan skills to actually kill Titans.
Bumps into Aaron.
Oh, you.
Love that bit.
Yeah.
Oh, man.
All right.
I'm going back.
When's JoJo coming, guys?
Is that next season?
Never.
Never?
Totally next season.
Next season.
That'll be a time when we can care about animus again.
Yeah, and JoJo is still playing.
New stuff.
JoJo's been a voice actor and he sounds pretty cool.
He's still playing.
Yeah, he's still playing.
He's good.
Yeah, I know, but it's like, what's the new animus?
It's about coffee wizards.
Yeah.
But it's really good.
Well, he's going to watch the second episode.
I'll give it.
What about Space Dandy?
Space Dandy's pretty good.
I'll give it.
I'll give it.
You're completely wrong.
I'll give it.
I'll let JoJo, okay?
All right, you should have just said that.
I said it now.
Fine.
Just want JoJo.
Our anime taste.
I want to hear you.
I want to hear you.
Yo, you'll get to see when you get to play that great new video game that Namco bad guy
is really saying.
Nice.
I just want to hear the new Dio say the world.
Right.
Is that too much to ask?
Apparently it is.
No, no, no, no, no.
Take me to the world right now.
See you next week, guys.
Bye.
Ready?
Continue.