Castle Super Beast - SBFC 032: Richard Simmons is the Final Boss
Episode Date: March 18, 2014SUPER BEST DARK SOULS CAST - now spoiler free! Also, Mr.Castlevania leaves Konami, Canada gets a PS4 price hike, and the 5th character of Ultra Street Fighter 4 is revealed to the sound of crickets. G...ot a question? Superbestfriendcast[at]gmail[dot]com
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Dramatic music
Yeah, I'm gonna have the raw reaction right afterwards
Well, you fucked up because when you open a beer on a show, you gotta have the sound of the beer can opening
Look, just find the phone
All you can do is pour it out into a glass
And put it over it
Just edit it back in
I'm sorry
Is the joke worth that much?
I'm sorry
You fucked up, Pat
I fucked up
I opened this fosters too early
I don't have anything else that's got a lid like that
It's fine
What does it say?
What does it taste like?
Look, I'll run out and buy a six pack
First of all, let's say to everybody that this is a can of fosters from Australia
Australian for beer
It says premium quality on it
And it has a fucking kangaroo on the can
Well, it's made from real kangaroo
Before you even get into that
It's made from the stuff in the pouch at the bottom
I think it's important to preface here that
MassGirlfriend's big drinker likes her drinks
And how she manages to deal with that
And looked in the fridge and said, what exactly?
This shit, I'm not drinking that
Why is it there?
I'm like, Pat's gonna drink it because he needs it to fucking...
To copill with his life
If she refused to drink it, you know this is probably awful
No, it smells like beer
Okay
It's probably fine
Now, you have PBR level like low ass standards here, right?
So how does this compare? You're making a face
That is goddamn awful
Yes
It's like worse
Hold on, let me get a...
Get a good sip, swill it around
Does it have legs?
See if it's got legs
Wait, I need a few more, hold on
Oh, he's making this grimace, like I've never seen him before
Oh, it's like stick your nose in it, see how it smells
It smells fine
Have a sip of that, that is vile
That is the strongest aftertaste I've had in a long time
If it's in Australia, it's meant to make you fucking tough
Yeah
Right?
Yeah, no
Australia, you guys need to step up your beer
Liam, are you allowed to drink this?
Not that I'm not allowed, I just don't want
Oh, this is terrible
Yeah, here Matt, you have a sip of this carbonate
I've been sitting in my fridge for a week
I'd like to think that down there, they have a bunch of dudes angry right now
Going like, we make better swill
What the fuck is this?
Oh, something else just happened
Yeah, aftertaste kicks you after three, four seconds, right?
No, that's the pouch juice from the King's Room
So it hits the roof of your palate and then it climbs down
And right when it gets near the back, it hits you again
Because it's so bitter
That's, yeah, it's bitter
It's fucking beer
It's also got a bit of a stout consistency going on
Like the foam and the head is really good
You can taste the bread-ish
But then that caves way to just, yeah
You can taste the Hugh Jackman
Yeah, no, so
I'm gonna keep sipping on this as we continue this podcast
But shittier than the past is getting even worse
The Australian folks that I spoke to that told me that this was complete garbage
We're 100% on the ball, this is terrible
I think we all had that conversation this week
And drinking beer out of a can is bizarre to me
No, I don't get this
And yet we drink it out of bags
Is this imported from Australia and brought here?
Yeah, it is
Like who would do that?
Drinking out of a can is kind of default
But out of a glass actually tastes better
I mean, out of a bottle, guys
I think that's like a lot, I think that's a lot
No, there's more than that, though
There is something to it, I used to think so as well
No, no, there's a clear difference between a bottle, a glass, and a can
The way the air, like, hits it
Because you taste it and it's like up to you
It makes a difference
I guess the tin might do something to it
It would
It's why fountain soda always tastes better than regular soda
Yeah, well it's the same thing with just Coke and a bottle of Coke and a can
Like you can tell the difference
Oh, so thanks, thanks, nice fan who from Australia
That sent us terrible, terrible beers
Fuck
What about drop beers?
Drop beers?
No, no one will even pick those up off the floor
They grow naturally and drop down
You gotta pick them up and drink it around
You get stuck in the Vegemite patches and like
That shit just drops on you
Oh god, imagine dying in like a giant fucking pool of quick Vegemite
Quick Vegemite?
Yeah
No, no, no, we have enough Vegemite, stop talking about it
That'd be horrifying
How was your Vegemite experience?
Yeah, I took a little dip
We all did
Did you take a little finger?
It tasted like beef filling and fucking like ramen sauce
Fuck this, I'm not eating that shit
And just molasses
It's just bitter and teasing
Yeah, it just tasted strong
I had a plague of gripes message me two nights ago with the message
Don't eat Vegemite, it's poison
But the thing is, this was something that was made way back when in the old country
When people were poor as fuck
Yeah, cause the only industry was prison
And so they would take whatever remains or left of the shit they had
And make a spread out of it
Yeah
Which is good on paper
And now they've been like psychologically trained into thinking
This is what they want
What do we got?
What do we got?
We got a lot of rust
Put that in the pot, stir it up
It's like grits man
Some band-aids
Yeah, it reminds me of the description of a lot of soul food
It's like, well what do you got?
You got this shit part of the pig
Throw it in there
It'll give you a boil it for long enough
It'll make you a nice pot of gumbo
What the fuck is gumbo?
What do you got?
Whatever I had lying around
This is tired
That'll do
This is pretty good
You can cook anything as long as you're crazy enough
And you cook it long enough and hard enough
It eventually becomes edible
Two ingredients of one kind
Enough of them will make another ingredient Leo
Don't have cayenne
Just put five times as much paprika
Exactly, nailed it
Episode 32
I want to say the Phantom Menace for some reason
No, I was going to say we've entered the fifth age of video games
We're now 32-bit
I was going to say we're going to start to get baby crazy around this time
It could happen
We're over the hill and dropping down
We're going to need a new podcast that's younger and stronger
And hipper
And has a bad haircut and hangs out at the Starbucks
It smells like bubble gum and homework
That's the one you want
How are we spending our 32nd week of recording?
How are we going?
I played Dark Souls 2 a lot
Dark Souls 2 consumed
Pause
A lot of people have messaged me asking
We not spoil Dark Souls 2 content
A lot of people that are not even playing the console ones
They're waiting for the PC release
So we're going to talk about the experiences we have
Very few specifics
No spoilers
Absolutely
Dark Souls 2 I played Dark Souls 5
Richard Simmons
15 hours
Beat a bunch of bosses
I played a bunch of Tokiden
It's way better than I thought it was going to be
It's a really good monster or clone
I played the demo and then I played Danganronpa when that came out
Instead of Tokiden
And I finally jumped into Tokiden and I like it better than Monster Hunter
It's faster
I don't know about that
That's my opinion
You do know about that and that's what it is
But I like the speed of it
Not that I don't like Monster Hunter
I like that it does things
It's one of those things that you look at it
And it's got all these little improvements that you go
Why didn't you do that to Monster Hunter Capcom?
Why couldn't you have just made it
So I didn't have to leave a quest to equip new gear
Let's keep our Capcom bashing until later
Hang on to that
You're also not truly a genre until
You get another version of your thing
That surpasses the original
We're not there yet
Like fatal theory to Street Fighter
What?
Yeah sure man
Whatever revisionist world you live in
In your head
Speaking of like Monster Hunter
Copying and what have you
Did any of you guys catch that thing about Tokiden
How it came about?
No
So they said that the reason Tokiden is a thing
Is because Monster Hunter jumped ship to Nintendo
And they said hey there's a market there let's do it
And in the same interview
He said it's fine though
Because Capcom copied Dynasty Warriors with
With what the fuck's it saying
And like I can't believe he said that
But that's amazing
Because they're totally right
Because they're way better than Dynasty Warriors
I know but what are we on a playground?
No kids in American playgrounds are saying
Which better is this mooso
Let's get some fucking playground beef going on
Yeah
They did it first
I read a book about rock paper scissors strategy
Yeah you did
That we received
All it took the whole week to get through it
No it was really funny at first
But boy does that run dry pretty soon
Well I imagine it should be dry
How much material is there
I mean the funniness can only ask a soldier
Well that's a serious book
But I've learned about the avalanche technique
Good
Save that shit for the nationals
No I am
Who do you think I am
Okay
Yeah I'm taking it all the way
I'm gonna beat you
But Liam you kind of skimmed over
But how do you feel about Dark Souls 2
Yeah I did skim
It's really good
I think it's a bit easier than
Demons in Dark
But I think that's probably only because
I played the first two
Although I'm inclined to say
Because of the streamlining they did
It also feels a bit easier because of that
You have a real thing with games
Like lately that you
Streamlining and you really don't like it
Because there's a lot of games
That do streamlining negatively
Like XP share and Pokemon
Which ruins the difficulty of the game
Whereas in Souls it was like
You're not gonna need to collect a billion
Bullshits to upgrade
There it's totally easier
Do you think they'll link up for it with
Like open accessibility at first
Into extreme difficulty later
So that segues into
I've been playing the game a lot
I had a segway, fuck you
I'm way farther than Liam is
Yeah
I'm gonna let you finish
But this is a point I had to make
My penis is bigger too
Then you get to
It was a boss fought
It was a boss
There's a boss fought in the demo
In the preview build
It's the looking glass night
Don't say anything
Don't spoil anything
Shut up
Anyway, that boss
Is incredibly difficult
It was the first boss that I had to use
To summons to help
It's one of those bosses where the trip to the boss
Is harder than the boss itself
In a lot of cases
And the area after that guy
Is so fucked
That it's the first time I got furious at the game
And put it down
I was so fucking pissed off
How many hours in?
36
Jesus
36
Alright
How many hours have passed since the release?
38
No, the full week all month
But yeah
It's a lot easier for a while
And then it gets fucked
It gets super fucked
Totally my expectation
So it's really good though
And I really like it a lot
I'm super into it
So I heard that you watched all of Samurai Flanko
I did
And I quite like it
So what do you think of it?
I don't know what it is
I've never watched a show
For longer without knowing if I like it
You watched all of it
Do you remember?
It's not done yet
Do you remember where I said a few weeks ago
That there's too many arcs at one point?
There's way too many arcs
But you see what I mean?
They get to like three episode arcs
So the way that I described it
When I was talking to Liam
I think like two days ago
Was that
Like you get three episodes in
And it jumps the shark
Like really really hard
And then you get four more episodes in
And then it jumps the sh-
Like while that first shark
And it fights
Yeah yeah yeah
A second shark jumps over it
Like you're still not fully recovered from it
I always think it's a shark
That previously ate another shark
And at the apex of his jump
And then three episodes later
A bigger shark jumps over those two
Does a flip eats them
And then a whole fucking family of super sharks
Start jumping over each other
In such a way to make an
Infinity loop so high as to reach to the moon
It's fucking poke floats
Yes
And then
And then a tiny little baby shark
Just kind of swims over all of it
And you are then again left standing
What is this show?
I don't know what the show is
I don't know what it is
Do you like it?
So so far
I don't know
So you've liked all my recommendations so far
Liam's first recommendation
Upside down question mark
I have never been so baffled
Because like I don't
I'm watching an episode
And it's very action oriented
This particular episode
And it's very like
Yeah we're gonna do the thing
And I'm sitting there the whole time
Being like
I don't know whether to even root
For the good guy
Because I don't I
So seven episodes in an event takes place
That honestly made me believe
That the entire rest of the series
And I still might believe this
Is the longest running dream
Dream slash coma sequence ever
Okay
In that I've never seen anything
Go so hard off the rails in my life
Yeah okay
And so then it goes
And it just starts escalating faster and faster
And it's like do I even care?
Like when this
When the next beat of the story happens
I know exactly what is going to happen
And then it does
And it's played straight
Even though it's nonsense
And it's so confusing
In the midst of your confusion
Would you recommend others join you on this?
I would recommend to wait six more weeks
Until it is finished
So that I can tell you whether
Like if it turns out to be a dream sequence
I'm gonna get fucking pissed
Okay
I'm gonna be super pissed off
The dream sequences are the worst
And they already said at one point
Like might as well be a dream sequence
And it's just like
What?
But I think anyone who likes sentai stuff
It is incredibly dependent
On how well it sticks the landing
Okay so so far Liam loves it
You're like what the fuck
I watched two episodes
I liked it up until then
I wasn't as confused by it I guess
Did you see the shark thing?
It plays it really straight for the first time
No no
You didn't see the shark thing
The first thing is after seven episodes or so
No the first one's three and then the
Is it three?
And then the second one is six
And then on seven it just goes
Well I'll wait long enough that I can forget those numbers
And then give it a shot
I wish it stayed the same show
Was in the first three episodes
Yeah
I would have been much more interested in it
And so it goes to all sorts of weird places
That I'm like oh this is cool
But at the same time it's like
I kinda like the more original thing
You were doing in the beginning
Well there's a comic book for that
I fuck you
What else? What else? What else?
Well with me?
Dark Souls
Tons of Dark Souls
So much Dark Souls
Yo so the biggest improved
So this is going to sound like a dumb pun
But I don't know how else to say it
It's very clear that the director
Of the first two games leaving
Not leaving but not doing this one
Guy named Miyazaki
Yeah he had this before and I rolled my eyes
There is clearly like some of the soul
Is gone
Like some of the like profound inspiration
That was behind Demon Souls and Dark Souls
Is clearly missing
Like I'd say like 10% of it
None of the bosses
10% of the soul
None of the bosses are as interesting
As the bosses in the other games
50% will
If you were a writer you would have said spirit
Just to miss them
Shut up shut up
And there's some clear like lack of
Like really strong vision in some areas
But aside from that all the gameplay stuff
Like all the changes to mechanics
And the covenant system
So my favorite thing about the whole game so far
Is that they've made a bunch of covenants
That didn't work in Dark Souls 1
Incredibly viable and super easy to PvP
In Dark Souls 2
You can easily
There are three different forms of arena combat
In the game
In which you can either straight up go to a statue
And pray and say I want to fight another dude
And it will teleport you to a god damn arena
And you will fight them
Or there are zones in the game
In which you can just go hang out
And within 25 seconds to a minute
A dude will show up and you will fight
And you will love it
And I have killed probably like 80 of those dudes
And man
They went back to dedicated servers with Dark 2
And boys it obvious
What's the reward again?
It varies
For killing dudes?
Their stuff?
It depends
It depends on where you did it and why you did it
If you do it for a covenant
You can get an item that's good for that covenant
Or help you invade
If you do it in the areas where you just hang out and kill dudes
You get souls and some material rewards
It's like writing a small background police report
And when you're in a covenant that's PvP focused
The first 10 guys you kill
You'll get one item which is pretty good
Which is unique to that thing
Like a shield or an upgrade thing or whatever
And then the next 50
Then you'll get a second thing
So one of the items that I've acquired in this manner
Is a spell that makes your right hand weapon invisible
Oh wow
Which is extraordinarily PvP oriented
That is only PvP oriented
Yeah
It's super super super nice
There's rings for that and those are fucking
You know how you get those rings
So there's two rings in the game you can get
One makes your left hand weapon invisible
One makes your right hand weapon invisible
Don't say how to get them
And no one's going to ever get them
Because to get them, ring for the left hand
Never use a bonfire
Ring for the right hand
Never die
Oh fuck
Yeah
Wow
So the people that do that
Deserve PvP victory forever
Forever forever
Wow
Okay
Because they win anyway
Right
So
Yeah
The game's utterly fantastic
There's two covenants that I know about so far
Right
Do you continue to go in and encounter more ones?
There's tons
There's tons
I've met like nine now
Okay
So yeah
Just take your pick
And they have made invading a lot harder to get to
In the earlier games invading was more of a fact of life
Yeah
Where in this one it is considerably more sectioned off
You got to do some shit if you want to murder people in their games
And to the point
You have to sin?
Yes
But to the point where the item that you use to murder people
To go into people's games and murder you
Is exhaustible and you can run out of it
And in order to get more you have to murder people in duels
Okay
So only good PvPers will be able to consistently invade
So invasions will be much much less common
But way worse
Because whoever's spending a consumable item to get into your game and fuck with you
Knows they're going to kill you
Yeah
Personally I feel like on my freshman run I don't want to think about PvP
Well guess what?
Guess what?
I know
There are ways to do that
Okay
If you burn a human effigy in a bonfire you will diminish the connection to other worlds
I'll let them come at me
But I don't want to go in and do it myself
They will come at you
They will
There are areas of the game which dudes just are
And they are there
And you have to deal with them
They are there to stop you from progressing
They just be
Yes absolutely
Or you can just get the Xbox version and just get disconnected all the time
That was so disappointing when that happened to you
Yeah
Fuckin' Titanfall
Unless you're finished
Yeah that's why that's my whole week
And like I mean I guess the thing was like did you guys just not want to reconnect?
Or is this like fuck it?
No no we tried
Okay
It didn't work
Titanfall
Titanfall's been fucking up X
Have you seen Titanfall dripping out of the Xbox?
The Titans all fell on the Microsoft servers
We were just watching a video on Matt's Xbox just 10 minutes ago
And the fucking server kicked out and tasked him to sign in
So I had by myself I started the game again
And Liam thank you very much for your suggestion
But I took the swordsman
Okay
And blasted through up until almost where we got to the tunnel of fire
And swordsman has no starting shield
He's got two hand weapons and killed everything in two hits
He was way way better
Long larger and drawing it
Cause yeah and he looked like a cool guy
He looked like an assassin
Yeah
That would have been my second choice
The old version of that class used to be called Wanderer
And he would always start with a Cemetery
That's the cool guy class
Yeah I look like a cool guy but I look at it and I go like
I probably need to know what I'm doing before I go two swords
Yeah
So yeah
I thought so too but like yeah
Cause each shoulder button is left and right hand right
Yeah and later
So it's like you can almost do combos
Later when you get better stats
You can get into a dual wielding stance
In which instead of being one hand the other hand
You get the same unique style
It'll be combined stats
Remember in Maze of the Dark Age Al-Rashid
Shut up
Let me finish my point
No
Al-Rashid had the most awesome stance
The two seven times
One hand above his head
It was awesome
It made me think of that
In going through it that second time
Did you
I got disconnected twice as well
Okay
So disappointed
Did you have a bit more fun
Or was it a similar experience
Yeah I know
I had more fun just because
Cause my swords also didn't break
Right cool
Like the sword on the night or whatever
Broke and then
It was already broken
If that's what it was called
The broken sword
But it broke after breaking
But then it actually broke
And when I look at the video of me
Just waving around that shit sword
With stunted range
And I'm like no wonder
Like when I got to that section
I couldn't kill anything
And I was doing way way worse
Yeah I totally had the same experience as Matt
And I think you had one
Or as soon as
Like me and Liam didn't do very good in our video
No
And as soon as Liam left
I got way better
Because I could relax
Yeah me too
The souls games are terrible to be played with people
You need to calm down
And not be hype
Yeah exactly
Well
You picked a sorcerer
Shut up
I know
And that's the thing is
The whole time I'm kind of going through this is like
Should I feel worse
Because I picked a bitch class
No you don't
Put the class in the game
Like I don't know enough to know
The bitchness will
Slowly erode over time
As the game gets harder as you go through it
Okay
I feel pretty good
I thought it looked alright
I dodged stuff and did things
The main thing they did in Dark 2
Is to spell casters
Which used to be super overpowered
Is they made it so that you just don't have enough casts
To get through a whole level
When you get to the boss
So you need to have something else going on
You need to have a knife
You need to have a stick
Something
Something to mitigate your spell usage
Well I noticed straight up fighting
That non-boss boss
Which not to get into full details again
The encounter
The encounter that was there
Where I didn't beat him
It was kind of like
Okay I don't really have enough to do this anyway
I had to switch to items
To throw items
Yeah throw items and a knife
And even then if I was like
If I was running out of those
I would have had to get lucky
With a couple of stabs as well
So no you can feel it
What type of stick would you say
Would be a good stick to you
For a guy like Woolly
Well maybe you'd use the stick of truth
Because I played a bit of South Park
The stick of truth with my girlfriend
Because she surprised me
Where she was like
Yeah I watched every season of South Park ever
And I'm like oh okay
I didn't know that
So she's like I'd really like to see the game
And I played about like an hour with it
And Pat already talked about it a bit
But it's pretty good
It's pretty good
It's surprisingly I was kind of like
And I actually appreciated when I think about
How much time I mean I
Or we all have is that
I'm glad it's not like a 30 hour thing
In a sense, in a sense, yeah
Especially because it's based a lot on
It would wear off it's welcome
Yeah because it's based on humor
I think we said this last time
It's like could the South Park experience
Last for 33 hours?
Like Obsidian's known for long fucking games
But I could not imagine a fucking
100 hour South Park game
Could you imagine that?
The worst
It'd be boring, you'd go like
Two hours between cutscenes
So I'll be trying to go through that
Pretty slowly
I'll also finish Luther
Now which one have you all finished Luther?
I've not finished Luther
I finished it
You haven't finished it?
I had like halfway through season 10
Okay so like I finished it
And obviously not spoilers
But some shit
Some stupid things happened in that series
Where I stopped liking it
Character motivations start
Like Luther has his partner of course
And his partner just changes his mind
On his view on how Luther does things
For no reason at all
Like he's like
He's seen Luther do a million things
Where it's like that seems kind of dirty
That made me a little too far Luther
Then Luther says
You know what?
I'm gonna prioritize this case
Cause this guy's gonna murder tons of people
Whereas this was a revenge murder
And the guy was kind of justified in doing it
And then the guy
His partner goes nuts
And goes oh Luther's dirty
What?
When?
How?
Did you see Luther?
Look how hot he is
I just let him do whatever
I was kind of shocked
You were trying to do whatever
The most important thing about Luther
Is that man he fucks that door up
That door gets fucked up
And the last kind of thing is
I watched a couple of
I was doing a lot of stuff around the apartment
And I watched the
Really kind of pat on the back
Documentary about Triple H
That the WWE just put out
And now considering all the
Daniel Bryan shit it's like
Did you know I'm the greatest?
Did you know I'm the greatest
What I didn't know about Triple H
Is that he started in WCW
Years before he came out as
Hunter Hearst Helmsley
Do you know his name was?
What?
Terra Rising
T-E-R-R-A?
Yes
Holy shit
Two names right
He started Terra Rising
That's the name of the god damn Korean MMO
So he starts off in that
And he's basically the same guy
As Hunter Hearst Helmsley
He does the bow and he's kind of
No he's just like a tough dude
And then WCW one day goes
Hey we want you to be French now
Your name is Jean-Paul Lavec
Which is his actual name
His real name is Paul Lavec
But they're like Jean Paul Lavec
And he's like
No his name's Jean Paul Lavec
Yeah it is
Everyone in the show called him Paul
I don't know
Nobody calls my dad John Richard
No one calls him Dickard
But they call them
Your name was Jean Paul Lavec
And he's like
Okay I don't speak a word of French
So just fake it
Ric Flair is the one that told him
Just fake an accent
So it cuts to him going
Hello my name is Jean Paul Lavec
And his story was that
He looked exactly the same
So what do you think they said?
They said he came to America
And he named himself Terra Rising
To get in
But now he wants to be known
Under his real name
And they paired him with Stephen Regal
So they'd be like British Phop
And English and French Phop
That's fucking ridiculous
William Regal yeah
Yeah okay
So like they did that
And then he goes
Oh fuck this I'm going to WCWF
And they're like
Okay yeah just do the thing
You're just doing
We're just gonna call you
Hunter Hermes Helmsley
He's like
Oh I'm crying
Come on with the girls
Wow way to get tossed around
Way to get tossed around
But then he became the guy
Who controls everything
Exactly
He became the game
Also when he was wanted to date Stephanie
He asked Vince for his permission
And Vince said
Yeah you know because it's you
And I know you're a good guy
It's fine
And then they started dating
Then everyone in the backstage area
Said this is a problem
Vince don't trust him
Don't trust him
So then Vince took his permission back
Wait for real or for real
And he said no no no
In for real
You can't shoot at Vince
But he did though
You need to stop seeing each other
And they're like
I take back my blessing
It's too late now Vince
I've already put it in things
It's growing
My nose I mean
I already married her K-Fabe
Why can't I marry her?
Remember kids
If you want to get a better career
Just marry the boss's daughter
Or son depending on your career path
And I didn't know that he tours quads twice
Yeah you remember that
It was the first time
Then he came back
But then he tore his other leg again
Doing nothing
That was the most nonsensical injury ever
He was just running to the ring
To hit Jericho
Yeah with a sledgehammer
And his leg just explodes
And they had a slow-mo replay
Of the muscle shooting off the bone
For nothing
He just took a step
No that's how Terry and your quad works
That sounds terrible
It just goes
So I'm done
Quads are gone
Quads are stupid
Yeah so stupid
Why do we need them?
Well I like to walk around
You can crawl perfectly
Well you can if you have quads
Because it will explode on you
No
I also did the most adult thing I've ever done
Which is set up my security system
For this apartment
I thought you were saying there's
Well no I've done that before
But setting up a security system
It's like yeah I might need security
I don't know
I am living for two now
Like you know whatever
Yeah because you're pregnant now
Because I'm pregnant yeah exactly
Liam's the father
Yeah
Not going to take your advice
On how to raise the child
I'll be the godfather
Just put him in the hole
It's alright
Oh that's just your crazy uncle
Pat Thomas on the one hand
Hey kids you hear about crack
I'm just picturing those things
Of like pregnant spongebob
With baby shadow or whatever
And Shrek
And then the twin towers are exploding
In the background
Vegeta and Goku is one of the worst ones
No the worst is Pan
The worst is Pan from DBZ
Really?
Pan pregnant with Simba
Fuck yeah
Oh what the fuck
That's fucking cool
With the cut away seeing it
Yeah exactly
Yeah yeah
So creepy
Yeah damn
Cause they're like fully formed too
Cause they have no concept of what a baby looks like
And how else would you know it's Simba
Exactly
You ever see that exhaustive fan art
Of like every single scene of aliens
Recreated with Lion King characters
No
How is that done
No like what medium is
DBN art
Oh okay
That's a medium now
Yeah it's a medium
No I thought like it was an animation
No it's pictures
Okay
Jesus
Cross breeding
I was in that part of the internet again
What did you do aside from be really good at Dark Souls
I looked at SpongeBob shows
Thanks for asking Matt
I was wondering
You were looking around in your lips for equivering
Well um yeah
No they calling me
They calling me
And I feel in the call
But um
You're not playing Dark Souls though
I can't answer it yet
I can't answer it because
You guys you know
You can't have your pudding if you don't eat your meat
Right
That's bullshit
How can you have your pudding if you don't eat your meat
Vegeta
You don't appreciate the pudding unless you've eaten it
Well Willie all your games just become meat
As you try to get to the pudding
That is the one that just came out
And you can't play
I know
So you never get the pudding
But but but I will get there
The thing is that I just need to finish my plate first
Which is
My plate is Assassin's Creed
One
No four
Okay
I'm almost done with it
My plate was also left behind
Which I cleaned up
Good
Right and
Ground zero's cause why the fuck not
Right
Cause it's just do it
Do it in a half hour
Yeah and then I'll be good
Yeah
Okay that's
Radically changing the length
That's that's not
That's not a thing of a plate
Yes
And then you know what
I'll fart in Titanfall's general direction
You didn't buy it
Yeah I picked it up
I'll see what's going on
Hopefully you can play it
Yeah
Servers aren't just dead
It's wrecking other games
Xbox
I'll see what's up with it
But really really
Smack in my lips to get back into that
Because that was
Start over by the way
Such a taste
Start completely over
Yeah I know
Like Liam you asked if I kept the save file
And
It was online and I deleted it instantly
As you would
And the other thing too is that like
This week thanks
Thanks to you Liam
I also got my K.I. stick
Finally
Yay
Awesome
Like yeah you just
He walked into a future shop
Saw it there and was like dude
That's gotta be the rarest fucking thing
Dude I saw it
And I did a double take
Cause I completely walked by it
It's one thing to see it in
Shit it's that stick
It's one thing to see it online
In a store
But the fact that you were like
Physically there
And you saw it
I have never seen an arcade stick
On a shelf ever
You
Cause I saw it online
That's because you're four feet tall
Damn it fuck off Liam
Fuck off
Don't kick me with your tiny feet
I'm kicking him with it
My tiny feet at all
They wouldn't be put high up on the shelves too
Um yeah
And so I just got a call
And he was like dude
They got a stick and buy it
Bring it
Buy it now
Already PayPal'd you the money
Yeah
And I pulled it out of the box
Plugged it in
Yup it works
Tossed that shit aside
And go back to
Steering at the Dark Souls disc
That shit
How about you play us as
Screens that are staring at discs
Man I just stepped on a staple on your floor
And it hurt
Give me the staple
No I don't trust you
Give me the staple
Tracks
You got shifty eyes
My eyes just look like that
Put it in your hair
That being said
I also grabbed a stick of truth as well
Oh yeah
Yeah you know
I started it a bit
Liking it so far
We'll resume that later
Left behind
You guys are gonna work your way
Towards you
It'll happen soon
Really solid as you would expect
Yeah
And I
Does it feel unnecessary
That's what I was about to say
Yeah
Is my worry
Originally going into
My only worry was that
You just go in and it'd be like
Flashback hey
This is what's going on
And you know what's gonna happen
Yeah
And they managed to find a way
They find a narrative device
To carry the story forward
In a way that it matters
Okay
And that was so refreshing
So I'm like
54% according to the game
Okay
Through that
And so far I'm not finding myself
Caring about either of the characters
In this context
Okay that's unfortunate
Is it the latter half
That really picks it up?
No no
It's without going into full details
It's the juxtaposition
That creates a reason to care
Sure
Yeah
You're just soulless
Maybe I am
You lost your souls
But
Yeah
Ultimately you know
And it has that
And then this little thing too
Like hey
Connect to Facebook
For a little cool thing
I'm not gonna tell you what it is
But
And I was like
I was wary
And then I found that one
It was like no it's okay
It's totally
You can connect it
Without bullshit happening
Greatly dislike hey
Connect to Facebook
I know
And my reaction
The game actually says
It will post one thing
No
I had the same reaction
And then I went
And I was like
What are they gonna see
Because I trust these guys
That's good
And that's better than most games
But it's still
The problem is that
I think it was
Uncharted 2
From Naughty Dog
Where they had the
Twitter implementation
That was just like
The fucking worst
All the time
Ever
It's like every single thing
You did in the games
Hey I just big little 10
Clearly they learned
Yes
And it was the worst
It was the goddamn worst
It was so bad
That journalists are talking
About it before release
And they just
Turned the feature off
On launch day
With the first patch
And never turned it back on
I still prefer
To not have
Social media integration
Yeah
But this is
There is
There is one form
Of social media integration
I can think of in a game
That I was like
Ah that's fine
And it was actually in
Last of Us
And it's in the multiplayer
Where there's a metagame
In the multiplayer
Where you get people
In your colony
And if you've linked it
To Facebook
It's all people
From your friends list
And so it will be like
Woolly is making
Bandages
Or whatever
Or you'll fuck up
And it'll be like
Nat died
In the attack
And it kinda adds
Just a little bit more
To that mode
Right
That's fun
That's cool
But yeah
Ultimately a great experience
And
You know
The rest of the stuff
We'll find out how the week goes
But
Fuck man
Dark Souls dude
I had so much fun
Why'd you wait?
I had so much fun
Why'd you wait?
Well because
That was the
By the time
I was like
Okay this is the jumping period
I feel like now
The jumping period
Was all the time
The Souls train
Is always running
Yeah
And I know it was there initially
That was the time
To penetrate
During the term
Yeah
It super was
You know
That's why every time
I talked about the Souls series
It was like man
Hey man
If anybody in this room
Wants to get in the Souls series
You can call me up
And fucking through in the morning
I don't even know the shit
Yeah
And that's a contrast
To a lot of the way
The community is
Not that that never
Really matters to me
But there's a very
Exclusionary sort of
Community with it
For a while
It's only an exclusionary
Community
If you're like
Why can't I do this
And get in
So like that didn't
It's not so much that
That put me off or anything
I just kind of was like
Oh
I know about this thing
I caught on late
That this was the return
Of the hard game
You know
Of Castlevania 1
Yeah
Of
Super Nintendo games
You know
It's like
Yeah
NES games
Yeah
I caught on late
That that's what was going on
But no
Whatever
You can all rub it in
For as long as you want
I'm rubbing
Because you're getting
A little chaffy
I'm going to have even more fun
Good
So it'll be great
You're going to hit some points
Especially with your first
Souls game
That you're going to be having fun
And then you're going to stop having fun
And then you're going to be having
Anti-fun
And then you're going to call
One of us on the fucking phone
And go fuck you
Fuck you
Okay
How do you do this
Any other type of fun
Is just artificial
Yeah
Okay
And Souls fun is the only true fun
Okay
Got it
The only problem with that series
Is that after you put
Like a ton of time in it
Because I don't know
When the games came out
We put like 100 hours in
Oh, easily
Easy
Right away
And then you go
And like the next game on your list
Is like a new Assassin's Creed game
Yeah
And you can feel them
Treating you like a child
Yes
You can
It's like
Really, really painful
Oh yeah
I can imagine
Like watching the wire
And then jumping off of it
To anything else
Yeah
I know what you mean
I'll have to
It's part of the reason
I was so hard on
Like some of the more recent
Zelda games
Like not
Like it's part of the reason
I was so hard on
Skyward Sword
Did you play
Skyward Sword?
Yeah
Okay, remember the early game
Of that
And how slow it is
And how much it
Forcibly tutorializes you
Yeah
If you put 100 hours on
The Souls game
And you go to that
All you need to think is
Shut the fuck up
Just let me fucking do the thing
I don't need my sippy cup
I don't need my booster chair
This orange
Should be exactly
Like this orange
Is that what you're saying
What?
This
They're made for
Two completely different
Groups of people
What would you
Like this orange
No
My argument is
I don't want to have
A 30 minute presentation
On how to put the straw
Into my
Class of Miller
But there's a huge amount
Of people that need that
Let me get around it
Well then
Got a difficulty setting
No, let me get around the
Tutorial
I want them to jam
Like Dark Souls 2
Has a tutorial
And you can just
Not do it
Like you know
The area in the very beginning
Where you go to the left
Or right
You do the tutorial
On replays
Between worlds
On replays you just
Run forward
That reminds me
In left behind
Before you started
I was like
Man, what do I do again
It's been a while
I completely forgot
And then the first thing is
A prompt
I'm like
Hey, so
Which one of these suits you best
I know how to play
I don't need this or
Yeah, it's been a while
Kind of remind me
What the buttons are
You're so on the nose
With all their menu prompts
Just as I was thinking
About it
Like from the Facebook one
To the difficulty one
They were so good at that
More than a year
More than a year
But less than a year
Right
It's been six months
It's been eight months
Nine months
July
It was right when we got
When we got back from E3
Yeah, it came out
When we got back from E3
Right at E3
Yeah, well, it's later than I thought
And the last little notice
I want to give
You guys and anyone else
That might be in the Montreal area
But when I talked about
Poutine Week
A while ago
The clear fucking winner
By a landslide
Was the gourmet poutine
From this place called
Gourmet Burger
It's the best poutine
I've ever had in my life
And it is temporarily back
So
No shit
You can go and try it
No shit
Yeah, you go to Gourmet Burger
Downtown
And you try the gourmet poutine
Holy fuck, dude
Like
No, I wanted to
There was no other
You didn't want to
There was no other
Well, I will
Thank you
Sounds like it was a good week
Yeah
No, good about this week
It was a good week
Yeah, it's pretty good week
Good stuff
Not a good week
For everybody in the industry
Everyone fucked up
No
Everyone fucked up
Continuing
Continuing
Our trend from last week
And talking about all the walkouts
Yeah
Now, since the world turns
We've now hit Japan
Yeah
And now the Japanese
Walkouts are happening
The most notable of which
I'm going to assume
Is Igarashi
Mr. Iga himself
Boy, is that ever
I can't believe he's
Fucking leaving Konami
Rest in peace, Castlevania
Mr. Castlevania
Is leaving Konami behind
All those fucking
Are you really
Mr. Castlevania anymore
When you haven't made one
In like ten years
Because they wouldn't let you
All you are when you made
The last good one
Yeah
They wouldn't let him
But
Like they took the brand away
From him because they wanted
To be triple layer
What's funny though
Is that
Can't keep wearing the hat
In the meetings, guy
You pointed out that
He's going to be giving a talk
At GDC
Yeah
And you told me how you were
Anticipating a new Castlevania
To be announced
Yeah
And then he's like
No, I'm not at Konami
So now I'm anticipating
A new mistress
So this is actual
Right news
This is even more interesting
I'm anticipating
Castlevania
Well, there's an even better chance
Of a game getting announced now
Because he has a platform
To speak on
That people want to
You should call it
Vampire Killer
Transol Mansion
Yeah
Well, Dracula's like
Public domain
So he can call it
Like whatever
You should call it
Super Whip Bros
Dracula Busters
Yeah
Um
True untold story
Of Bella Lugosi
Yeah
But yeah
Fuck you
You made these games
He says he's working independently
No, it gives two shits
For Iga
With an independent team
Konami sure doesn't
He's working on a game
That he says his fans
Will appreciate and look forward
Yeah, yeah
And his talk
Is about Metroidvania
Exactly
So he's gonna make a
Metroid fuckingvania
Let a good chance
We'll see one coming up
Whether it's on Kickstarter
Or whatever
I'll drop
Fuckin' cut
I would pay a lot
Of goddamn money
Let's hope he goes full
In a fune
No
It would be in his own studio
Because
You can't make a Kickstarter
If you're based in Japan
No, I think they changed that
My number nine did it
I thought through America
They had to get around it
Because you're right
And I remember
Utsukoshi was saying
He had trouble with that too
With the Virtus.Asteroid guy
When he was looking into it
For the next game
Which he may or may not be
It's tricky
But the Japanese project
Kickstarter as you've heard about
All have western
Branches
Nature finds a way
Is Indiegogo available in Japan?
Yes
Indiegogo is available everywhere
Because I remember
Junkhead was on Indiegogo
Yeah
Fuckin' Skullgirls did it
In Castlevania
Like
LeBath
Can she be able to do it too?
LeBath
I really just hope he's able to get
Like quality art and music
Yeah
Because that's like
40% of Castlevania
You know, Mature Yamane
Is down for whatevs
Yeah, you got the money
She could call her
Right?
She's down for whatever, man
That's what it says on her card
Down for whatevs?
You guys doing whatever?
You can call
I'm good
You're American?
I don't care
The other
The other walkout
That's not even current
But it's only current
Because we've heard about it now
It happened last year
Fuckin' Tetsuya Mizuguchi
Walked out on Q Entertainment
Nobody but us
Knows who that is
That's the Miz, obviously
So to further elaborate on that
Tetsuya Mizuguchi is
One of the genius minds behind
Rez
Behind Child of Eden
And everything awesome
That Q Entertainment has
Space Channel 5
Luminous as well
Luminous as well
Sure, yep
Dude's got synesthesia
He
A lot of his games
Are about the visual interpretation
Of sound
Yeah
Cause dude's got synesthesia
Which is the coolest
Disease you can ever get
Yeah
I don't know
We'll probably get an email
I was like, no, I have the coolest disease
What would that be?
I'm invisible
Handsomitis
I'm invisible and handsome
Doc, you gotta help me
I'm terminally handsome
It's gonna kill me one day
I've got elephantitis of the dick
In Japan, that's considered bad
An EPO
Girls run from EPO
Yeah, it's all up to you
That's such a weird joke
Get outta here
Well
Well
Anyway
Regional differences
Yeah
So he left Q Entertainment
Which is a really huge deal
Because apparently
Q Entertainment has been
Picked up by
Amazon
No
If you want to try again
You'll never get it
You'll never get it
You'll never get it
Tencent
You'll never get it
Sanio chemical industries
That's not fair
It's literally impossible
Makers of chemicals
And plastics
What the fuck is going on?
I don't know
This is just what
Like when Sammy
Got into the fucking video game business
But at least Pachinko
Has something relatively
To do with entertainment
I guess
Chemicals and plastics
Like
Rez 2
Is it a manufacturing concern?
Like
Like Rez 2
Is just gonna be about
Fucking wiring
And like
Lab work
Sure
Q Entertainment office
And they're like
What do you guys do?
You make games
Can you coil?
Can you coil wires for us?
Why did you buy us?
Why did you come to
Our game development studio
Just to boo us?
He looked at the programmer's hands
Like you guys have never worked
A day in your life
You know
Start coiling
So weird
So weird
That's the weirdest thing ever
So yeah
Tetsuya gets up and leaves
With his second hand
Right hand man
Kind of thing
So good job
The company's like
Lost half its value
Yeah
That was apparently a year ago
And it was completely silent
That's always the biggest problem
When these companies
Like you know
When EA bought Bioware
Like what if like
The top guys at Bioware
Just said
Fuck it
I'm out
I'm gone
Oh what if
The other
Yeah
You're right
What if that happened
The thing that totally happened
Maybe fucking nuts
What if the guys at
Infinity Ward left
Yeah I know right
Carries the thought
Man
Call duty sure
What's suck
Oh look at that
The other nightmare scenario
Is that
This company wants them to
Make a cool trippy
Trans-style video game
I was totally thinking
Pushing the business
Of chemicals and plastics
Acid man
Increase taxes on corporations
Is the mind killer
It's like Pepsi Man
The more acidic
Exactly
Drink acid man
The kids that love Acid Man
On their PS1s
Isn't there's no Mega Man
Boss named Acid Man
No
I'm thinking a toxic seahorse
Not yet there isn't
There should be
Maybe there'll be a Bex boss
Because Mega Man
Is better than fucking
Tomahawk man
Mighty number acid
Yeah
No
I don't know what to make
Of that but Rez is gone
It'll live on in my hearts
And I can still play it
On 360
I'll lend you my trans vibrator
No
No you won't
Maybe
I have my own
Maybe at Tetsuya in Igarashi
You're gonna team up
With Jack Trenton
And the Uncharted writer
And make a super team
What's going on
You said that earlier
And I'm like
Why Jack Trenton
Why Jack Trenton
You know
Why Jack and C-Vival reason
He's gotta be the face
I'm really upset
I don't know what we're doing
But we're selling a product here
So I just realized
How much of an asshole I am
In which I'm really upset
That you refer to Amy Hennig
As the Uncharted writer
Not because you didn't use her name
But because you didn't say
The legacy of Kane writer
To be fair to most listeners
Yeah
To be fair enough
I didn't know her by name
She writes the best dialogue
To write on
That game would be great
Now she's teaming up
And he marketed well
Just Simon Belmont
With trippy fucking
Synesthesia background
Amazing dialogue
Coming to all devices
And a great E3 show
Yeah
He can sell anything now
I wonder where Jack Trenton's gonna go
To the desert to sell sand
Yeah
To what?
Skeletons?
Yeah
I'll buy anything he sells
I would love it
I would love it so much
If Jack Trenton went to Microsoft or Nintendo
I would think that would be
The most entertaining thing
It would be entertaining
But it's not lovely
Usually you go to a different industry
Wouldn't that be hilarious?
Phil Harrison
Wouldn't that be hilarious?
Phil Harrison
Phil Harrison
And then you get in this weird place
Where every single person
On stage at E3 has worked for Sony
And they all know
Everyone's plans
Yeah
And then we can just have a big
E3 presentation round table
Oh no
Reggie worked at
Pizza Hut
Pizza Hut
It's a Canadian pizza man
And then
What about some
What's his name?
EA Sports Guy
Peter Moore
Peter Moore
Yeah
Moving around
No one remembers Chip Hawkins
No
I remember the name
He created EA
Sold it before it got evil
And made the 3-Doh
Yeah
Stop saying the 3-Doh
I'm saying 3-Doh because I'm mocking him
I'm pushing it
Panasonic doesn't even call the 3-Doh the 3-Doh
They call it the failure
They call it fuck you
Get out of my office
By this time next year
You're all gonna be playing 3-Dos
With fucking holes in our controllers
I think I mentioned
My people joke about the Wii U
But there's some real failed consoles
Out there in the past
The 3DO, the Jaguar
Phantom
The Phantom never came out
The biggest piece of vaporware ever
No, the biggest piece of vaporware ever
Is the gizmondo
Because it actually came out
And was still vaporware
I guess
It was all fucking
Tax scammed by the Swedish mob
Okay
But the phantom guy
Like eventually
Through the penny arcade strip
These guys track them down to their office
Which was the dude's mom's barber shop
Yeah
Or something along those lines
And then like
The phantom itself was like
Something that was part of a phone board
Hair dryer
It was nothing
That lap board was pretty good apparently
Yeah
Sure
And they had over 30
Major AAA companies on board
Yeah, it's like
They were gonna have a fucking thief on that
They were gonna have a thief too on that
That was a big thing at that time
You told me right
Oh my god
I told Liam
It was not too long ago
But when they were making the 3DO
They asked
Who should we have a manufacturing partner
Sony
So let's ask Sony
Sony, do you want to join in with us?
And they're like
Look, we have another product
It's 50-50
Whether we go for that or yours
We'll get back to you
And they're like
Yeah, it's probably gonna fail
But we're gonna do this PlayStation thing
Well hey
Hey, remember
What could have been
Remember, it's like
Yo, Nintendo, we got CDs
Games look great on them
Do you want to make a CD add-on
Called the PlayStation for yourself?
No, we do
But we don't want to pay you
Yeah
We want to look at your tech
And steal it
Yeah
And then Square is like
Yo, guys, we got this game
Final Fantasy VII
It might be good
And Nintendo's like
I don't think that's exactly how that part
Does it fit on the cartridge?
That's not quite exactly how it works
Does it fit on the cartridge?
Fine
Does it fit on the cartridge?
No, it doesn't
Then they laugh them out of the office
And then they say
Hey, does it fit on a CD?
Yeah, I've used three
Yo, great
CDs are cheap
How long do you think
Before we ruin this series?
Fucking 64DD, goddammit
Remember what you said
A while ago
About the video game industry
It's an industry of failure
Tripping over your dick
Is what allows your opponent
To succeed
The video game industry
Is not defined by success
It's designed by the failure
Of your competitors
Everyone's successful
And then someone just trips up
And people get more successful
And we're seeing that so hard right now
Where Sony did a pretty good job
At PlayStation 4
Getting it out
And messaging it
But it wouldn't have mattered
If Microsoft hadn't fucked up so hard
If Microsoft had done another 360
Then this console generation
Would be in their favor right now
And we've spent entire podcasts
On the Wii U launch
You know what I mean
Oh my god
So next gen
Next gen
And Sony and Microsoft
Will probably cock something up
And Nintendo will have a good idea
Or something
And Nintendo will be back again
Watch fucking like Amazon
Be like some legit shit out of nowhere
No, the controller leaked out
It's totally a fucking
But Android controller
That controller didn't get confirmed
To be like the quote-unquote console one
And more of just a generic one
I find it kind of boring
It's going to be an Wii U from Amazon
Well until I see it
Because they've got a bazillion dollars
So I trust them
They do have a bazillion
I want it kind of boring
If it's those three forever
I really want the scenario of a coffin
Burst open
And someone unexpected shows up
Well, here's the deal
You want that
Here's what needs to happen
One of these companies
Their gaming division
Has to just completely die
Because there's not enough for four
Sega learn that
But like I really just want
Someone to just burst open
Atari's like we're back
Oh no, not Atari
In handhelds
Infogrames
I'll not call them a time
In handhelds
There's room for two
And it's smart phone
Plus whatever
And one console
And in consoles
There's room for two
Maybe three
Two in a bed
And a secondary
Three's possible
But not like
Not easy
But no one's doing spectacularly
But four, no way
No way
And I used to think that like
Steam could just reach out
And take it if they wanted it
But it's difficult
Steam box is taking forever
It's difficult
And they're cocking up
A few things
They're regional sales and shit
The price stuff on the Steam box
You look at it and you go
Why would I get a Steam box
Why wouldn't I just get
A similarly expensive PC
Well the Steam box will be
A good thing in five years
Ten years
No
Five when it's cheaper
Than a PS4 and Xbox One
And it does more
Whereas in ten years
The PS5 will be out
And then
What are you waving your hand at?
I'm just going to be talking to the mic
I'm talking to Pat though
Yeah but
The mics were interesting
But yeah
In ten years
The PS5 will be out
And then the Steam boxes
Will again be
A weird pricing gap
I guess
It's like
I don't know man
The expensive Steam boxes
It's like
You can get a better
It's the console
You can get a better PC for that
At the end of the day
Just build a PC
If you want that
It's really weird
But the biggest
Steam box problem
Is the fact that it's like
Yo you know what
Linux doesn't support shit
Right now for games
Surprisingly more than you'd think
Yes
But not my Steam catalog
Now
Quite a bit though
Not my 400 games
That you don't play
Only 12 or 15 of those
Work on Linux
And only 12 or 15 of the ones you play
Now speaking of
Now speaking of cocking up
Yeah what about cocks
Well you're someone who played it
Tell us about that
Speaking of cocking up
Prices for digital games
Like you see
Good old games
Had their own little
Thing going on
A little bit of a snafu
That was correct
Was corrected
They sure patched that one
Oh I got something
They came out
Two weeks ago
And they said
Basically that
They were going to be
Introducing regional pricing
For some games
Because in order to get them
In a timely manner
And to work out deals
With the publishers and such
They were going to introduce this
And what not
The priority being DRM free
Means that they had to
Make this concessions
Yeah publishers don't like that
Regional pricing
Being the second most evil thing
After a region talking
Yeah but you know who else
Doesn't like that?
Gamers
Good old gamers
And they were really vocal about it
And you know what
When your platform is DRM free
The consumer has a lot of power
To fuck with your platform
And you know
They have the mantra
Up in the DRM free
Now and forever
And basically
After the massive backlash
They just came out and went
Yo we fucked up
Have free shit
We completely fucked up
And we are not going to be
Going forward with this initiative
At all anymore
Everything is going to be
Equivalent no matter where you live
In the world
We'll force the deal
Basically
What they said is
Like obviously something has to give
And what's going to give here is
It'll take us longer
To negotiate these things
Sure that's what everyone will prefer
Which is the best possible answer
Because it's the true one
And you're fixing the problem
There's no more truth than that
It reminds me
We'll get it or we won't
But we're going to sit at the table
And bargain and negotiate
Well that's good
I would like it if good old games
Could speed up their process
And get some bigger titles
It's hard though
But what you're hitting
I'm not at the expense of that
You see that's the thing
You have to realize
Like these guys are trying really hard
Already pushing something
That the people who have games
Hate
Which is DRM free
You know and they're standing by that
All the research in the world
That shows that
You know good old games
Does pretty good
Despite DRM free
Or even because of it maybe
I mentioned it before
But like personally
I know it's not the popular opinion
But whenever I have the choice
Between Steam and good old games
I go good old games
Yeah me too
I adore Steam
Even me
It's like well obviously
Yeah no
GOG for me is way better
And they
Like this type of integrity
And like honesty
Is fantastic
It reminds me of
When the CCCP
The guys who make it even online
Had those microtransactions
For those personal customizable things
And the EVE players blew up
Everything in space
Literally
And they backtracked
And the company was like
All sorts of fucking bullshit
You hear that Dark Souls
Playstation stores shit
Which one?
The fucking the
Which one?
Okay so
You can use the DualShock 4
On your PlayStation 3
Right
You can plug it in
It totally works
The only thing that doesn't work
Is the home button
But it has to be wired
Yeah it has to be wired
Hilariously though
If your PS4 was on
While you did that
It's the controller can send
Inputs to both devices
And people are ending up
Buying a shit ton of stuff
By accident
On the PlayStation store
Oh no
And Sony's like
No we're not gonna refund that
You're an idiot
So the one input is gone
Is not showing up
And they're using their PS4
At the same time
Yeah
So they're navigating the store
While playing Dark Souls
And buying tons of shit
Damn
It's like well
And heads up people
Don't do that
Turn everything off
Yeah
Or just use the controller
That comes with your system
Well if you see the blue light
Wouldn't you fucking
No shut up though
Yeah
Like for me
My PS4 is in a different room
So I could see that situation happening
But I'd be an idiot
Fucking so stupid
Why would you suddenly go buy
Lots of games for no reason
Sometimes you feel good about that
Kind of stuff
Sure
But it's you know
You just bought a whole bunch
Of good games the other day
No I didn't
By that I mean they were all shit
No
It's sure we did
Although as far as PSN stuff does go
Due to an accident
We got to see a little bit
Of how PSNOW is gonna work
Well I still question
Whether it's actually PlayStation now
Cause that's all people
Positing that it's that
But I actually think it's not
Well whatever it is
Gonna be officially labeled
There was a leak type of thing
Yeah on the PlayStation network
Where you could see digital rentals
Available
Sure
So 7 day rent
3 day rent
Whatever
And what was the game
It was
Catherine was the one
It was Catherine
There was no prices
There was just the UI for it
If that price is anything more
Than
Real rental prices
Real rental prices
A nickel
A nickel
3 days
Are you fucking
What are you
Are you high?
A nickel
I own Catherine
That's good
Like if it's supposed to
Replace backwards compatibility
No it's a rental system
The PSNOW
No no
It's not like PSNOW
It's in the PlayStation
So the news or articles
Are reporting it as
Possibly related to PSNOW
But either way
It's speculation
It's speculation
But what this is
From based on the screenshot we saw
Is a rental system for digital games
Okay
Well
Yeah
2 bucks
2 bucks 3 bucks
Exactly
For a weekend
Blockbuster prices
Exactly
Totally fair
What blockbuster did you go to
Fuck
Okay
Blockbuster was the worst price
Okay
Mom and pop
Rental prices
Right
Yeah and it would always be cheaper
To keep it an extra day
And pay the late fee
Yeah
Because yeah
I mean there's a lot of times
Where I find myself saying
When people ask
Hey how is this game
These days I go
It's a rental
But what does that mean anymore
Yeah
It means I'll lend it to you
Yeah
I guess right
And they must have
They must have realized
That market is gone
And maybe they can get in on it
There's room
There's totally room for that
But I can't lend it to you anymore
Because I'm all digital
Yeah
You know
So even that's going away
Oh man
That's Steam
I have a friend of mine
Who's on the Steam Family Sharing
Thing
And I saw like his Steam account
It's fucking bananas
Like the game list on that
Oh yeah
Just like yeah
You can just share
Your games with everyone on this list
As long as they're not playing it
God I would wish that system
Came to everything
Meanwhile in the brick and mortar
At least up here in Canada
We are now going to be paying
50 bucks more for your PS4s
Which is
It's the retailer's fucking us
Because they're not charging
50 dollars more for Xbox One
So when the Canadian dollar
Shifts up or down
Well in this case it's not the retailer
It's Sony
Sony said it themselves
Really
They are upping the price of their games
And their controllers by 10 dollars
For PS4 not for Vita
And for
Don't worry
PS4 they upped the price of the console by 50
Then why hasn't this been reflected
On PlayStation Network yet
It has
It has
Only for Sony products
So
So beef is not going to get changed
But Infamous is already 69.99 up there
Well that's a good thing I've pre-ordered it
Me too exactly
So
And this is something
Fucking Sony
This is something that we deal with a lot
Up here in Canada specifically
Not a lot
Not a lot
Last time it happened was
4 years ago
It's happened twice in recent memory
But then it stops
4 years ago
And the thing is that
When it does stop
Okay let me explain what it is rather
Is according to the Canadian dollar's
Strength versus the American dollar
When we hit parity
Yay we can all sell and trade
The exact same
Except it takes 2 years for them
For them to slow it down
But when it shoots up
When the Canadian dollar goes under
They immediately put the price up
Yeah because that's how that works
So they have to recoup their costs
And thus they will put the money up
When it goes
But the bullshit is that it takes them
Super long to bring it down
So it's like gas prices except even scumier
Yeah totally
It's fucking entertainment
No because they can
For the period wherein
Our dollar is actually shite
Yeah
It's warranted
For any period where it's not that
It sucks
It took years for us to get to 60 bucks
And like I said
That fucking sucks
But for the period where
Our dollar is absolute trash
Which is right now
Yeah
It's hard to argue against it
Because right now
No it's easy
Because you took long before
So now you should take long now
That's the easiest argument in the world
No but it's not a good
It's not a valid argument
No you made your money before
So now
Give me the savings from then now
Also it wasn't Sony last time we did it
No it was every column did it last time
Like a name for sure
Jesus Christ
It was everybody
They did that with SF4 vanilla
And i5 as well
The console is one thing
But when I saw your lips move
And you formed the words 69
Fuck you
They get such a ridiculous price
Like for a game
It feels like Super Nintendo games
And then you start seeing
I pay $99 for Ultimate Mortal Kombat 3
It's brand new for Super Nintendo
And you start seeing the half steps
You see your 74
Possibly depending on what it is
The console doesn't really care about
Back at the store that shut down
I remember seeing two games at 74
But that store was a museum
You couldn't buy things in there
Because the prices were absurd
And they shut down to reflect their lack of admission fees
But all that being said
It's a little bit of bullshit
Just because the speed is not reflected
The same one both sides
Of course
It sucks when we get to the end
All that being said
Like game prices have not climbed with inflation
Unlike almost everything else
Which is why we have DLC out the ass
Yeah that's totally why
Because we pay less for games than we used to
And the games cost drastically more
So guess what
I'm now less likely to buy DLC for Sony games
What I will say is that if you shop around
Like Amazon most of their
90% of their prices are still totally up
Left behind cancelled
So I went like the other day
And I pre-ordered like
A whole bunch of shit
Destiny, Ultra
A ton of games that haven't had prices adjusted
Do you cancel your thing for Ultra now?
No
And like you don't put any money down
You know just get that in
Before any price adjustments happen
And you know
It sucks
It ain't gonna happen anytime soon
But here's to honesty
Maybe we'll see it someday
No never
Never
I just want to pick at the bit
That right now
It's fine
Because they're losing
No it's not
Because they waited long before
They waited two months for this
That's
They waited years for it
If they get to do it this fast now
Then they should give me back all the money
That I wasted when the dollar was a bearer
If I have to be scummed out
Until the month where it finally becomes fair
I'm not gonna stop feeling like I got scummed out
No, no
It has now become fair
Because the dollar has dropped
I want to at least explain it for people
So they don't just say
But they get it
They still like it
Maybe they don't
Sony is literally
Every company is literally losing 10%
I don't care
If you buy a $400
It doesn't matter
I'm talking
If you spend $400
On a product that they spend
Almost $400 to make
And they lose $40 in the transaction
That's a problem
That's their problem
And they have to find a way to fix it
And this is the only way to fix it
And that's totally understood
I don't think any of us
Else will just stop getting PS4's in Canada
Okay, I have mine
I don't think we misunderstand that
I bought it at its actual price
It is a fair thing to do
What we are mad about is the other end of the hill
And that will suck when we get there
And now I am focusing on that
How long will that take?
Well, let's wait until we get there
We have taken the part where going up
To reflect the changes is fair
And we've put it over here
Dude, how do you think I feel?
And we are focusing on the part where they screw us over
Because they did it for the last four years
How do you think I feel?
I buy way more games than you
I went to Paris last month
And I'm going to Japan later this year
With our money in the shitter
It's garbage
It sucks, I hate it
But companies are unfortunately warranted
Or else they start losing money
And they may as well just pull out of our...
But they are not warranted
They are slow on the back end
So I will wait for that
To start making a muck about it
I think the point is
I have no sympathy for them
Because I don't care
Because I am a consumer
I am a consumer
Sure
If they had displayed
Like the same level of attentiveness
To run up and drop the prices
Back when we became fine again
Then I would be fine with them
This would not be a problem now
I would say, oh, you're changing the prices
According to market demand
But history has shown us
That we should not trust them on this
Therefore, negative feelings abound
With other companies
It's the whole industry did it
Yeah
All the retailers did it
Yeah, the retailers did it
Good
Fuck them
They didn't do it last time
Fuck them
But it's all not me
It's all them
But that's why I'm saying
There's differences
These are different people
My point of view is not specific
It's fuck this
Yeah, it's a blanket
Stay here
I mean, prior to this
There was a $5 hike on games
Over at EB for us as well
Where you went and canceled
A bunch of pre-orders
I did
And that was EB
That was not Sony, right?
No, and I went
And I got them on Amazon for the same price
Yeah, so I mean
This is a piece of Sony news
But we're seeing this coming from retailers
Sure
I don't like it
I just think it's warranted
And to say it's not warranted
It's childhood
If you want the games
None of us said that
We're all saying it's bullshit
If they don't put it down fast enough
Like if you want the games now
You have to like
The only way you can sort of
Make it right to yourself
Is just go get the fucking retail boxes
When they hit the bargain bin
So you pay as least as possible
And use to fuck them too
And even if they drop it
Like with the same level of speed
And attentiveness this time around
It still doesn't make up
For the bullshit last time either
I know
But we'll see
And by ve means a lot of people
That are not us
I'm not going to condone it
But I sure
I would sure hope for Sony's sake
That the PS4 doesn't get cracked
Any time soon
That would be real bad for them
Because it would be real hard
To get mad at many of those people
What I would like to do
With the savings
I don't really get the relation
But sure
And we'll move on
Anyway, what I would like to do
With the savings from not getting ripped off
Is put it into awesome ass kick starters
Like proto wrestling eggs
Man, please take it away
Okay, so
We saw that the crappy
Was announced for a street
No, don't spoil it
Shut up
And we all got really dehyped
All of us, everyone
All around the world
I did not get dehyped
Because you knew
I knew
But I just happened to be on a site
Where my eyes just lit up
And I went, wait
What is this kickstarter?
What?
And I
I phoned up Wooly
Without even having all the information yet
And just going
Look at this kickstarter
And Wooly's like
Wait, what?
What is this?
And basically
Pro wrestling eggs
Is a kickstarter
That's like
Let's bring back the N64
Wrestling games
With modern tech
For PC
Oh my god
The fucking screenshot
Even has the only four
Yeah, no
It's straight up
These guys are like
You don't even understand
How much we love the Aki engine
No, we understand
Because we like it too
We're gonna make it for PC
And make it moddable as hell
And their goal is $6,000
And they already surpassed it
How much?
$6,000?
Their goal is $64,000
And they surpassed it in the first 30 hours
Of course they did
They basically
They said they're not stopping
Until they make
What did they call it?
Fuck
Wrestling history?
No
It was the perfect name
To sum up what they're doing
The spirit?
It was
But it's basically
The ultimate goal is
The depth of fire pro wrestling
With the fun of the Aki engine
No mercy games
That's not possible
It's totally possible
I really liked in their little
Video campaign
When they show
The evolution of the project
And everything
And they have like
A big like
Sort of a table
With all the different games
That they're taking influences from
Fire pros
The early smackdowns
And then I see in the front
They got the box art
Of backstage assault
Yeah, while he's talking about
The legacies of wrestling games
He's talking about the legacies of wrestling games
And I'm like
What the fuck is this motherfucker
Doing with that?
Whatever
I'll listen to him talk
And he goes
And we can clearly see
Why all these games are great
Except a few of them
And just knock that box out
Knocks backstage wrestling off
And you're like
Yeah
These guys get it
He knows
So this also
This is a Canadian kickstarter as well
So I think it's in
Out west I believe
But yeah
I'm gonna
I'm gonna throw some money at that
Oh my god
I'm gonna try to contact these guys
Yeah
Back in the kickstarter
There's some stuff going
Yeah, it's already
Again, it's already past its goal
And now they're just
They're stretch goals
Or like the scaffold match
No fuck
Now it's doubled its goal
It's at 11
11.5 right now
And basically the goal
Is to create the engine
Create the full
Sweet
Sweet of like
Match types
Yeah
And two wrestlers initially
Yeah and just populate them
Right, hey guys
Fucking, here's a template
Go
Here it is
Also they're making it
Fully open moddable
For people who want to throw
Their own wrestlers in there
And what not
Yeah
Before they'd eventually get
Around to the character creator
And all the other
Good bits
Right now
Of course because of
Such a modest
Target goal
And super moddable
They're looking at just PC
Yeah, of course
All you can do with that money
And to be fair
Like once you get it
Off the ground
And once people are playing it
And having fun
Once money's coming in
Then you can look and go
Alright, maybe we can
Get this going elsewhere
Maybe we can make a console
Version in which we port
All the characters that
Are breaking copyright laws
Yeah
So what was the tweet
That you saw?
The tweet is like
Hey, those games
Have those N64 games
You know a lot of things
For Nintendo
Would you ever think
Of a Wii U port
And goes
And the guy
Who's the head
Of the entire Kickstarter
Said
Actually we've seen
An enormous amount of support
Saying
Wii U version
So we're doing the math
To see if it's possible
Which is nice
Yeah
And the thing is
Even though there's only
Two wrestlers to start with
They're fucking badass
Designers
They're both guys
You'd want to use
Yeah, they look pretty cool
So yeah
Just insanely excited
About this
They showed off
Enough for me to
Have faith in them to deliver
Yeah
Because they had been working
On this engine
Since 2007
Six or seven
Six or seven
And they've been working
On this perfect recreation
Basically
Let's do the ackee engine
But better
Yeah
And now they're getting into
The stage where they're like
Alright, we want to get this
Looking current gen
That's good
Let's get a little bit of money
And push it and put out
A little engine
With a ring, a couple match
Types
And two guys
And then we'll take it from there
Alright
And it's happening
That's the best part about this
Hope
I don't have to push it
Because it's going to happen
We started like
A week ago
We made like
3,000 bucks
And you're like
Oh
Yeah
No, like honestly
Right now it's just like
Your job is to just get hype
Because this is going to happen
So on the phone
He's like dude
I can't keep talking to you
I have to get hype
And read by myself
I can't talk and read
At the same time
Because every new quote
Is like something I want to hear
In fact like
They got
They got part of their backing
From the producer
Of No Mercy
Who just is like
I'm happy to make a donation
Like this
Best of luck
This better come to completion
Holy shit
You know like
Everyone is
Like
Really really happy
For example
A lot of people are like
How come blank blank
Or blank do not release
How come there's no like
Smackdown HD collection
Or
How come EA
Can get the rights
I imagine it'd be the right
Yeah they must be in there
No no
I know but like
Create the engine again
No shut up though
And
Yeah
Home depth
Here's the quote I was looking for
So like
There's an FAQ at the bottom
Of the page
And they just said
One is
X feature going to show up
In the game
And they basically said
Yeah
Once the doors are open
Once the product is out
There
We're not going to stop
Until we've created
Virtual Fire Pro
No Mercy 2
Nice
That is a serious bit
Of ambition
It really is
But if they're taking it
Like this
Step by step
I know it's like
We want to boil down
A 20 year genre
And beat
Every version
Of everything
In a genre
Where 10 years were irrelevant
Yeah
But no
15
15 were irrelevant
Sure
But the sick thing here
Of course is that like
They've got it
It's made
It's puzzling
And what they're doing
Or what they need to do
Once it's out
Is just make the new
Characters
And make their moves
And then you've got
A couple stage variations
But the thing is there
If they
The groundwork
Is not going away
If there's a really good
Create a character
With a lot of support
In that
This can
Become
The
Wrestling
No Mercy has been supported
By PC modders
For years and years
And still current
You can play No Mercy
On the PC
With like
Not
Amazing visuals
But much sharper
Better textures
Runs
Well
But like
Think of all the
Mods that we saw
For like
Street Fighter 4
Vanilla
Of people just
Twisting the models
In order to make
Crazy new characters
That was
Explicitly
Unmoddable
Well
What would be
Fan-fucking-tastic
Is
If this turned out
To be something like
The project cars
Of the wrestling community
Yeah
Where we all just
Jumped on that forum
And it became
New table discussion
And
What if it became
Mugen, man?
Sure
And wrestling game
Fans in general
Like if you go into
WWE
Salty Federation
Salty Federation
If you go into
WWE 2K13
If you search for
Or
Matt Tile
You get
Like it's a very
Like fan-made
And that game sucks
That game sucks
Like imagine
If it was good
Pretty sure you can
Search for Zubas
Yeah
I searched for all of us
No one made an us though
Oh damn
As they should not
But I would
Not in that game
Cause I searched for
Liam, Pat and I
When we did the
WWE 2K14
And no one made us
See
That's why you call me
And
Create a character
Expert
Yeah
A character you always
Make
Rage
The best
The huge black guy
Oh no no
That's my brother's character
That's your brother's character
My brother would only
Make rage
Big angry black guy
I did
I did
I brought him up
At least once or twice
I feel like
I feel like
Zubas needs a rival
We should appropriate rage
What is
Angry black man
His thing is
Anger
I'm so pissed
You guys
Anyway
Yeah
So
The next
Big hype
Kickstarter
At least
Matt and I
And hopefully you guys
When you take a bigger look at it
Pro wrestling
X
Holy shit
Other thing
In Kickstarter news
Do you guys remember
Chroma Squad?
No
Chroma Squad
Chroma Squad is the
Little
Sentai Power Rangers
Style
It's a
Sentai management game
Dude I don't think
I've ever heard of it
Mixed with like
A tactics game
Okay
Go look it up
It's adorable
It's a Sentai management game
Exactly
You have your
Team of different
Ranger colors
And you can
You can fight in the Big Mac
You can do your
Megazord battles
All kinds of fun stuff
Going on
They passed their goal
It was awesome
It was successful
This was over a year ago
This was quite a good while
Yeah
What's happening with it
Well basically
They're finally
Like getting ready
To put it out there
And they made
Three little Japanese
TV spots for it
Which are adorable
They're really
Really fun
And they're going to be
As well
Like showing some stuff off
Yeah
Well I saw at GDC
They're going to have a build
And they're going to have a build
For the next convention
Which may have been packs
And after that
They're going to offer a build
To their backers
And yeah
And I just
I just watched the commercial
Where they're showing
Off the features
For Japanese TV
Like it was 15 second spots
Basically
And yeah
No they're adorable
They're just really fun
They have that dog
That floats in space
It could be
I love that dog
You should chuck it out
And find out yourself
So for anyone
Not to be confused with
Chroma
It's a totally different thing
The disappointment issue
Or chromehounds
It shoots disappointment
Not chromehounds
That game doesn't work anymore
Did it ever?
Wow
No I mean it did
But the servers are down
So that shit's fucked now
Is that a from software game?
I think so
Nooo
What do you say?
Yeah yeah okay
A lot of mech games last
Last gen
Yeah
It was a hell
I feel like PS1
Was like the mech
Game
Thing
I thought it was Xbox
Original
There's so many PS2
PS2 is the one I like that
PS2 is absolutely the one I like
There's a lot more mech games
Than anyone remembers it
Appears
It's still battalions
I always think it's still battalions
Yeah
Techies
Zoe
Oh fuck techie
That's the same game
Shut up
Techie is still battalions
Stop being knowledgeable
Shut up
You're ruining the podcast
Does everybody remember
I think Spongebob red
Yeah
Yeah every time you say chromehounds
I try to think of ring of red
Because that was the game that like
No one of our group of friends
Not you guys in my other group
No one wanted the disc
And no one knows who brought it
I couldn't figure out who it was
We all met up and someone
And a copy was there
And everyone was like who's this
And no one owned up to it
Ring of red
It was like a Spon game too
In your apartment
No it was Predator
It was Predator
It was concrete jungle
Ring of red sounds like
So weird British sex thing
Makes you think of rule of rose
Oh you got a ring of red on you
No
Did you guys catch the trailer
For the new gauntlet game
Yeah
No I did not
What a fucking match made in heaven
For what type of mobile device is this for
PC
Oh
That's not a mobile device at all
Guess who they're getting to make it
John Romero
John Romero
No
Arrowhead
Okay
They made Magica
Okay
They're fucking shoeing for gauntlet
That's nice actually
Yeah that's awesome
Like a great match
Is it gonna have a Vietnam expansion
I hope so
That was the best thing
This midway you stole gauntlet
Yeah it's being published by Warner Brothers
Warner Brothers
Warner Brothers
And they showed off
Our new masters
They showed off the trailer
And it was like
Not my master
They showed off the trailer and it was like
Warrior
Mage
I think like
Whatever
Warrior Mage Valkyrie
Valkyrie and elf
Yeah
And like you know
It's like
You kind of look back and go
Oh gauntlet
Why would you do class, class, race, class
Like
It's just an elf is not a class
They do that in dragons
Like warrior, thief, mage, Jew
Yeah
Yeah
Totally right
Exactly
It's fuck
I like those old
Not the old old ones
But the ones on
Gamecube and
The gauntlet legends
Well they were arcade
Right
But that's where I was going with this
My thing with this trailer though
Is you're watching it
And you're like
This looks kind of like
Every extend extra
Because it's flashes of particles
And things happening
It's totally different
But the, no
But the camera is so far zoomed out
That you can't see your fucking characters
That's sort of the problem
So the biggest problem right now
Is that it's your
They're so small
You're like a pixel
But it's a PC screen
It's a little dot
It's a PC screen
So it's like four inches in front of your face
I'm sure
But like
You go back and look at any other gauntlet game
The original or legends
And it was zoomed in
At least twice as much
To see your characters
And it
Shut up
No
When you said ring of red
I thought you were going to say
Did you guys play ring of fire
No rain of fire
Rain of fire
Yeah
And that's almost turning into the new face off
So I'm talking about rain of fire
So I'm talking about talking about face off
The way the flames came out
And amounts was cool
Yeah
Yeah, yeah, yeah
No it was
Because they had like little sacks
The chemical mix
And they had pretty cool
But anyway
No it might take the original gauntlet
Or gauntlet legends
And make the characters twice as small
Pull the camera way out
I like how big they look
And gauntlet legends
They see the details
I don't know
I watched the trailer
I think it looks really fun
Oh I have to have a look at that
I think Arrowhead's on a total
You think Yaiba looks fun
So
Every
Everything looks funny
I think Arrowhead's on a total tear
Cause like gauntlet
And with the other game
Okay
I don't remember
Helldivers
Those both look great
No
I'm just saying
Just zoom in the camera a little bit
I'm sure you probably can
If it's on PC
You'd probably scroll it with a mouse wheel
Yeah but it was just
Like they showed so much footage
And never ever changed the camera at all
Yeah maybe you need to get bigger eyes
What's up
Yeah we know
Obviously
What else would you do
Clearly
Other game that is
Not confirmed yet
But rumored to be true
After the next Batman game
Apparently we're getting Suicide Squad
There's a list of rumors
That are public now
Yeah
I would trust that
And so the
Yeah me too
And so what they're basically saying
Is the Suicide Squad which is
The most obscure thing
You could ever pull out of DC's asshole
It's pretty obscure
But it's a team of villains
The dirty dozen with super villains
And they're villains
Whose names you would recognize
You've got Harley Quinn
You've got Bane
You've got Deadshot
You've got Amanda Waller
On that group
Which is awesome
Cause she's the Nick Fury
Of the DC Universe
Sure
You know the big black woman
Yeah the one that Batman's
Hanging out inside of a shower
Sure yeah that one
Yeah exactly
What
And she's behind all the shit
It's a long story
I'm sure it is
Yeah that's the story
Go watch the best episode of
Batman Beyond
Epilogue
Oh that's the best episode of
Batman Beyond
That's one of the ones you skipped to right
Yes
It's like five episodes of that show
If you do it right
Yes if you do it right
There's exactly five
Including the movie
I liked Gollum and Shriek
Yeah that's fun stuff
But either way
Suicide Squad
That shit was Shuei
Like
This to me is the type of views
That's a dead word
That is the exact opposite of
Gotham Knight
Where it's like
Okay
You're keeping
A brand and franchise going
But you're giving us something different
And it's gonna be a cover based shooter
It's gonna be third
Probably third
For you and five friends at the same time
Look at Bane
He shoots guns
But he can use his venom power
I can't see them straying too far
From what they've got
You know
To me
This is be the same as of Marvel
Announced the maximum carnage game
But you can only play as the bad guys
I would love that game
Right?
Yeah
But
There's nothing in DC
To put video games based on
Except for Batman
Because there's nothing
Well the interesting
You're gonna play the brilliant game
Well the interesting thing is
I know Mr. Mixle Plix
The backstory of the Suicide Squad
Is that there are villains that do
They have to change that title
They can't put out a game
That's called Suicide Squad
No, that's the name of the group
They gotta change it
No, you can't fuck with that name
They're gonna be on Fox News in minutes
So it's gonna be Batman Suicide Squad
And guess what
The next episode of Arrow
Airing this week
Is called Suicide Squad
And it'll be on Fox
But nobody cares about it
It'll be on Fox immediately
Nobody cares about episode titles
No, it's true
TV is for adults
Video games are for children
And we can't have the playpoints
As adults who are children
We can't have all our children
Beyond Suicide Squad
King's is a fine name for a movie
But video games
I'm surprised Persona wasn't on fucking Fox
It's got a penis demon
It does
I thought you were just going to go
For shooting yourself in the head
No, it's not a penis demon
It's also got a demon
That's just hanging out on the can
Yeah
Belphagore
It's just a demon sitting on a toilet
And older SMT games
Have equally disturbing shit
Yeah, but Fox News wasn't around
In relevant back then
No, no
Anyway
Ted Turner was born 20 years ago
I thought Gotham City Impostors
Was really scraping the bottom of their brains
It was
How you can possibly extend this universe anymore
Well, here's what I'm hoping for
I'm hoping for third person action
Switching off between the team members
And I'm hoping that you go on the missions
For the government as the main Suicide Squad
So you want a third person
Batman licensed version of
Clive Barker's Jericho
Yeah
That's completely off the wall
What do you mean with magic robots?
You're about to ask
Why would they be going on missions
For the government
Well
Because it shortens their jail sentences
No, but why would the government
Trust these lunatics
To even do the missions
It's Amanda Waller
If you know her
She's fucking
She doesn't give a fuck
She gets the job done no matter what
Whatever shit'll happen
Yeah
And maybe
I hope Batman's the final boss
Well, that's what I'm getting at
Maybe you'll find a hero or two
Like you're in the middle of
It's unwinnable
You're in the middle of a mission
And fucking
Dude kicks the door down
Like what are all these villains doing here
Time to wreck your shit
Hey, what's up bats
And he's really hard to fight
With your whole team
That'd be really fun
It kills you
Unwinnable battle
That looks winnable
But it isn't
Unwinnable battle is the actual best
Especially when you decide that
Oh, I have to get away
No, like you're
You're trying to beat him
And you're losing
And then the credits just start rolling
Over the screen
As you're fighting him
Aww
That game's telling me I can't win
Yeah, no
I hope that
DMC3 has an unwinnable battle
But you can totally win
Those are the best kind
In the credits
For Devil May Cry 3
Remember, you can fight
100 demons
And they appear infinite
But if you really haul ass
You can kill all
Is it 50?
I think it's 50
But you can kill all of them
Right before the final title crawl
And you get the extra scene at the end
Aww, that game's so good
Um, and in, I guess
I don't even know
What to relate this to
But some dude
Reached a million gamer score
Today marks the day
Wow
How many achievements was that?
Yeah, I don't fucking know or care
So he cheated
Let's just assume that
No, he reached it legit
He's been tracking it for a while
He was the guy that broke 50
Yeah, that's the same guy you hear about
A couple years ago
And this was the Guinness World Book of World Record
Maker
Who says there's no more heroes?
This was the guy at launch
That Microsoft had that amazingly
Weird PR stunt
Where they gave him a gold Xbox Live card
That gives him a lifetime membership
In a misguided fit of
We're gonna look so good to everyone doing this
Well, at the time
Yeah, maybe your service should be free
To be fair, the guy on the other side
Of the company battle or whatever
Was doing the Banderas-like face
And no one got it
Yeah
That's really weird
It did look really weird
It was still great though
Oh, man
Wait a minute
What a nice little end
To the story of last generation's achievements
Where what is your...
We went through a generation with achievements
And half a generation with trophies
How do you guys feel about them now?
Because boy, do I not give a fuck anymore
Not at all?
I did
I really did
Yeah
And there was a couple games
That just took some of it away from me
And now it's all gone
No, but I never gave that much of a fuck ever
I thought it was a cool little thing
It's a cool little thing
And if there's a fun thing that would happen
Like uppercutting and defeating Sagat
And round two with an uppercut
Yeah, that was cool
Right on
Getting the smile in Geometry Wars 2
Sure
What do you care about
When an achievement pops up in Killer Instinct
Or when you completed a trial
And got some fucking stuff that's used
Yeah, yeah, yeah
To unlock something
Remember Metroid Prime 3 had achievements?
Yeah, they did
Well, they did
They did?
Yes
But they were hard to do
It was like an enemy throws a boomerang at you
And you freeze him
And then with a free shot
And then his boomerang hit him and shattered him
And you got a bit of like Metroid Prime money
And you can use it to unlock armor
Yeah, now I remember that
They were really hard to do
They had things like that
Originally, of course, Microsoft's concept for gamer score
Was that you'd be able to spend it
Yeah, that would have been cool
That was a dream
And then they were like, oh wait, no
It's free money, let's not do that
Can't do that, don't do it
I got really hard into them
Well, yeah, we had a really long discussion about this
I think my point was pretty hard
It was I wish they didn't fucking exist
And why is that?
Because they're just nothing
They're just nothing
It's free artificial lengthening for your game
And it's abused by most developers
But why is that?
The vast majority of it
But you had a really good reason for personally hating these
Because I got way too into them
Yeah
I think
And then it kind of ruined some games for me
Totally
Yeah, so it's like if you are just like
I want
But it's hard to get out of them
If you've got an addictive personality
No, but you can't just turn them off
You're compelled to want to complete this
Well, you can't
Because then you couldn't, right?
Now you can
Now you can't
And like for a long time
I'd be like, okay, for this game, no
And I'd get a few
And I'd be like, I have to fucking finish this now
I get it because when I started turning
Back in totally ruined a fucking game
When I started turning notifications off and whatever
And then when I do things in games
I'd be like, I bet I got an achievement
Yeah, and I hate that
You bet you did it anyway
I may have talked about it before
But like the idea like you can just turn it off
It's like sometimes you can't
Because sometimes they may have fucked up the game's design
To incorporate achievements
And the best example is Arkham City
Because the fucking Riddler trophy shit
Is so fucking outrageous
And over the top
There are 400 fucking trophies in that game
Not easy to get
It's bullshit
And the only reason they did that
Is because so many people got the 100
That were in Arkham Asylum
I did
Oh yeah, so did I
Because it was easy to get the 100
I know, but at the same time
DMC4 has over 200
And they're fantastic
Yeah
Beat the game on normal
Congrats, you get 5G
That's how you knew the game was serious
Your eyeballs open up big
The Souls games have always been like
Beat every boss
The Souls games in some cases have had
Like good achievements and the worst achievements
Like max out this
Max out a fire weapon
Max out a spider weapon
It's not fun
And it's just like
And you look at it
And you're like
I need to beat the game three times
In a perfect path
Getting all these upgrades
To get all the achievements
It's terrible
Oh yeah, no
We saw the story
As it unfolded throughout this generation
Where we started seeing achievements
Like be online at the same time
As 10,000 other players
Which on paper
100,000 other players
What game was that?
Was that NBA Live?
No, N-C-A-A
N-C-A-A
College Basketball
It was 1000 players
No, it was 10,000 or 100,000
It was 100,000
I remember they got organized to do it
A few years ago
Yeah, I think it was 08 or something
It was some shit basketball game
No one played
And the only way to get an achievement
Was to get the online player place
All together at the same time
Which was impossible
Because no one owned the fucking game
And they had to get a concerted
Organized effort
Of just everyone going online right now
So your shitty design achievement
Was expecting people to give a fuck
It sucks because on paper
That's a super fun one
But it doesn't work
And tons of games
That have online achievements
Where the Turok
Was a really good example
In Turok the reboot
There was an achievement for
Killing a team member
Killing an enemy
And killing yourself all in one round
So guess what?
Those multiplayer matches
In the early game were fucking shit hole
Because people were team killing
And suiciding for achievements
My least favorite was
When you had a game with 50 achievements
And 48 of them were single player
And the two multiplayer ones
Were play your first match
And reach maximum level
Fuck that
And some games didn't have multiplayer
That were active
So those achievements would be impossible
And it's that brutal legend story
Oh man, impossible
Or that guy like complained
To double find Tim Schafer
Like I'm gonna be on
The achievement is
Beyondline with a developer
Or someone who's been
Play a game or something like that
Fire achievements are super banned now
You're not allowed to make them
And then the other
The two horrible ones that come to mind for me
Of course, one, anything that's called
The journey begins
Fuck you
Or any variant of that
Test starts, get 5G
Wow, that particular group in a word
It's like, yeah, I've seen that
For that is Matt Hazard
Cause it's so meta
And then the second one
Being of course fucking Avatar
And then we learned
That is the hilarious
Anyone of your friends
Who has Avatar on their list
Where they have 1000G
Like, good job guys
You are an achievement horror, you've picked a friend
Guess what?
Just went in, he did a combo that lasted
50 hits or whatever
20, 40, 60, 80
100
We might have talked about this before
There's a secret history
To the Avatar
The game's achievements
A guy wrote into the giant
Bomb Cast a couple of years ago
And explained that he was the achievement designer
On that game
And what happened was
He had achievements, really
He says they were good, but standard
Good achievements for the whole game
And because
Of the way that Xbox Live
Worked back then
Player two coming in
With drop and drop out co-op
Would get the achievements
That player one got
Which would break certification
And so like three weeks before the game
They said redo all the achievements
And so he had to just do those
Because they were testable
But back then the balancing was
So off anyways, the games like King Kong
Would give you 200 for beating it once
There was games like Cameo that had
The achievements
And in fact I think zero point achievements are great
I think achievements without
Denomination attached to them
Is good
Because then you're collecting them
For the sake of collecting them
And you're not collecting them
For the sake of an aggregation point
Yeah, but no one wanted to do that
Dead or alive
For
No, no, but that becomes
Intrinsic motivation
And not extrinsic motivation
No, no, I completely agree
This guy's like I want my penis
To be bigger and the other guy's like
See my penis grow
You know
Like there's a difference
Between the EP
And one of them's good
And one of them's shit
One of the good examples of what you're talking about
Is Dead or Alive 4
Which has zero point achievements
For multiple losses in a row online
For failing
And those are great achievements
Like five losses in a row
You have a zero point achievement
That says you suck
And you can never undo it
So this gentleman who's gotten a million
Achievement points
As wasted his life
You have to
He's like it's been a lot of hard work
But I've finally got there
Whatever
Yeah, how much fun are you having?
None
Maybe he's having the most
To be fair
The people that want to
Because he stopped playing games for games
But maybe he's like
Okay, no, you know
Exactly
You're super right
There's that whole subset of people
That just want to be the person
But that's where I was going
That's where I was going
Or not even that
Just to be the one amongst your friends
And the thing is that
When I met the first
Like dedicated Achievement horror guy
That I knew
Where he was just like
He was the guy
That stopped playing games
That he enjoyed for fun
And only looked at
How many achievements there were
And how fast he could get to thousands
Yeah, I knew a guy who
And he would actively
Like we'd be talking about games
And he'd look and he'd go like
Oh, no, I can't play that
Like my achievement to
A play ratio per hour
Is too low
So I have no reason to go through that
That's nuts
He only played games to grow his score
I knew a guy who wouldn't play folklore
Or MGS4
In like early PS3 games
Because they had no trophies
But after Uncharted came out
Yeah
Because they had no trophies
That is ridiculous to the point of
Like frustration
Because you're tapping into someone
Something in somebody that's like
Oh, again, we can't judge whether or not
They're getting the same entertainment
Out of this or more
No, you can
It's very easy
They're not
Done
But like if someone's joy
Overfeeling the completion
Is a greater joy than hours
Of just playing the game for the game
You want to stare into the fucking
Darkest abyss of this phenomenon
The day before Dark Souls 2 came out
A fucking hacked save file
For the PS3 went up
In which all your souls were maxed out
And all of your levels were maxed out
And the comment thread
On that fucking website
Was the most disgusting shit
I've ever seen
Thank God for this
Now I can play the game
And get all the achievements
Because I was never going to fucking touch it
Anyway, can you still just beat all the bosses
Without trying with this save file?
Because I don't want to have to try
That's a little much
I've seen that though
There is a huge subset of people out there
That are not playing games to enjoy them
They're playing it to get
To score it
And that's like I would like
Yeah, I was going to say before you said that
That I'd like to think or imagine
These people wouldn't have given a fuck about the game
It's the same people who go
Who used to go on a counter strike servers
With fucking aimbot
And be like
Yeah, I'm the best
I thought you were going to say video poker
But hey
No, it's like no
You remember those guys?
Yeah, of course
It's like yeah, I'm the best
Like you're using a fucking hack
How are you the best?
And the deal is that you're using the hack
And so now that you have the individuals
That are refusing to play good games
Because they don't have anything
It's like congratulations dude
You've broken video games for yourself
No, you've ruined fun for yourself
Thank god it's a minority
Because if that was a majority
We'd have serious
I can't play chess with my brother
Because it has no achievements
I feel sorry for the fraction of those guys
For these new helpers
Who are just compelled and are like
I need to collect them all
That being said
There are some games and some achievements
I had that were fun
Yeah, absolutely
Like Prince of Persia
Like the reboot
And Lollipop Chance
So I had some fun
Yes, well for sure
And because when they're creative
And well thought out
That's a great thing
And it adds to the game's fun
But the vast majority are just complete garbage
And I mean
And I've talked to not Julian
But our other friend
Who was super into collecting achievements as well
And he said
One day I just let it go
I just stopped giving a fuck
And I got over it
And it was one of the most
Stress-worthy games
I was so much happier with games
When I turned notifications off
Yeah
Do what you gotta do
But you can't get hung up on this bullshit
Bullshit, man
Well, I was gonna say
Like whenever
I've said that guy's a hero
Whenever, like once every six months
I get an amazing, amazing triple A game
On the Wii U
I am so happy whenever I play through it
That you're just no pop
You're totally right
You're totally right
And like when I was playing
The Wonderful 101
And more so when I was playing
That would have had a million
If it was
Guess what?
It does
But they're hidden away in a menu
Oh, it's true
Pikmin 3 was the one for me
Where I was like
I'm so happy this has nothing
Yeah
And that was great
You're totally right
Moving along
I don't know about you guys
But I guess turned the fuck on
By massive advancements in storage technology
You do
Yeah
Every time I hear about
The next giant ass leap in storage
Finally
You know what though?
I'll agree with everything you said
Except remove the word storage
From the sentence
Well, sure
Whatever
Whatever
What it means
When we have like
But you needed to
Yeah
Preface the segment
And what being a dick
I'm sorry
Well, what it is is
Panasonic
He's gotta put the Naruto somewhere
Panasonic and Sony
I don't need a binder now
Panasonic and Sony have
Just don't even acknowledge
Yeah, no, just keep going
Even though you just acknowledged it
It's too funny
Talking to Liam
Panasonic and Sony have teamed up
And created the archival disc
Archival disc
Was just such a cool name
Yeah
It's a great name
That will not last
Because it will soon not be archival
Right now it's a disc
That's stored in like
A weather resistant
External condition resistant
Like a case
Gravity pump
And it can store up to
300 gigs on it
Yeah, that's pretty good
300 I thought it was 500
I actually heard a terabyte
They're ending a terabyte
Only 300 gigs on a disc
Come on
What is this piffle
Come on, motherfuckers
Yeah, remember when Bill Gates said
Man would only need
Two mega gigs
Two megs
Fuck, it was two megs, I think
Kilobytes, dude
He said 17 kilobytes
Oh, yeah, you're right
Because it was a floppy disc
No, this is awesome
I can't wait to see it used
For things that are not storage
What a visionary that Bill Gates
Why compress your textures
When you can double them up
Yeah, you know what
That's gonna be a long time
Because even the
Blu-ray read times
Still aren't that high
Yeah
The reader is for this
God knows how expensive they're gonna be
Oh, it's more than anyone hearing
This will ever make in their life
Sure, but when it calms down
And we get to use these
Like, I would like to think that
Despite the fact that games will be bigger
And a lot of the things we'll be downloading
Will be huge
We'll be downloading 2K movies
At that point or whatever
You know what I want?
This is gonna be something that
We can fucking replace
A lot of broken hard drives with
No, I disagree
Because you'll have a new computer
And a new hard drive by that time
And you'll be using that
And the next disc
The archival-archival disc
Will be on the way
And you'll say
I'm excited for that disc reader
2000 terabytes
Maybe, but I've had two hard drives
External hard drives fail on me
And I'm like, fuck, man
No, no, I'm just sure
That 10 years ago you said
A Blu-ray, I'm gonna back my shit up
That turns me on
This sort of 50 gigs
Well, it's when you hit the next like thing
And you say like a terabyte
You know what I mean?
That is a tangible-
Let's get some petabyte drives
Up in here, guys
Let's do it
Minimum
You know what I want?
I want a warehouse
And somebody points at that warehouse
To me
And they say
You know what's in that warehouse?
And I go, no
And they say everything
I need to back up
I need to back up my archive
The sum total of all human knowledge
And experience
Every book that Google scanned in
Every single fucking page of the internet
Every song, every movie, every game
Everything, all of it
And then I want to blow it up
I mentioned to you some of you guys before
But there was a time when Josh came over
And he just handed me a CD
When was this?
This was years ago
Many years ago
Not that many, though
Early 2000s
He handed me a CD wrong
And I said, what is this?
And he said, this is every single
Super Nintendo game ever made
And I got depressed
I was so sad
I was like, wow
As great as it is
Everything
Fucking reboot, really
Your name is megabyte
Your name is gigabyte
At the time, man
That was fucking cutting ass edge
Hexadecimal, though, stays relevant forever
Forever
Not a bad thing
And powerful
You can do all sorts of dumb bullshit
With hexediting
Just in case you guys didn't catch that
The other really sick bit about that story
Is Panasonic and Sony teamed up
To make a non-proprietary piece of technology
That's weird
Welcome to Fordo
Sure
Sony can't fucking work nicely
They can't play nice with anybody else
Well, maybe now that they're slowly going bankrupt
They're learning how to play nice with others
Sure
Hey, Panasonic, you still making TVs?
And I just want to pimp out
Why does Sony sound like pimpled TV, Jeff?
Because they're losing their divisions
Oh, I dropped the TV division
In the deep fryer again
Mr. Travinopoulos is gonna kill me
Oh, Jack left, no
I also just want to pimp out
This P4R gaming article
Called
Mata asks on Yoshi's Island
We wanted to make a worse version of Yoshi's Island
Yeah
And it's really good, actually
I'm so lucky, man
I'm really glad that the game is not very good
Because then I don't have to play it
Yeah, no, so
The original isn't taking good either
Except it's one of the highest rated games
Like, I love games
Like, you could like, love games
I was way better
I'm saying it
So I guess you're agreeing, man
Instead of not
I'd rather play Dynamite Heady
Dynamite Heady is fucking garbage
Now you're being crazy
I love Yoshi's Island
I was fucking sick, I love Yoshi's Island too
And like, this thing's getting like
Blasted everywhere
It got a 7.9?
IGN gave it a trash
IGN gave it a 7.9
Unplayable
It's just like, hey, Nintendo's not good at a lot of things
But what they're supposed to be fucking good at
Is the first party development of their treasured shit
So if they start fucking those up too
Well, it wasn't first party
But we'll just start making up
It's not first party? It's not
The guys that made
Wii Sports
Something? Then they fucked up
By giving it to
We play Motion
They made the Street Pass Me Plaza
In its entirety
And they made Time Travelers
Oh, Time Travelers
Which was a good game, but it sold like
You're totally right that it was not first party
In that case, they should be
Fucking more careful
If they get you, they should give everything to the punch out guys
Well, what I was about to say
What I was about to say was
It's almost imperceptible, right?
Like Pokemon Mystery Dungeon, the recent one was by Chunsoft
Yeah, that's not supposed to be
You know, IGN, whatever, 7.9
No, whatever. And IGN, Eurogamer gave it
Force
Eurogamer's legit
And so, Eurogamer gives Dark Souls
Force, like they give everything
Force
I love it, because they'll give some great game
That you love, like a 7, and you go, yes, fair
Yeah
Because you look at the scores in aggregate
And most of them are like, pretty fucking brutal
Yeah
This fucking article just fucking kills me
In the next part of the interview
Oshima plays the original Yoshi's Island for the Super Nintendo
And wonders if it's the upcoming
sequel to Yoshi's New Island
You should read the previous bit about the DS1
Yeah, yeah
He's like, so would you say that
Yoshi's New Island is a true successor to the original game?
The one on the DS, correct?
No, the one before that
This is the first time I've heard of a Yoshi game
Before the DS1
Iwata laughs
Oh, this guy
We gotta get this guy on the show
I tried, but it didn't work out too well
Please stop calling me
Basically, but still
Awesome, awesome website
We're not taking it personally
Not too much
Oh, I know what you just saw
I can tell just from the fucking face-trash
What you just saw
Alright, you know it
There's no way to dance around this
We know who the fifth character is
Yeah, I called it, and it wasn't for people
More than four
I vividly remember saying
Moro clearly only goes on Japanese form
Yes, I vividly remember saying
It was going to be decaparate
It would be the cheapest character to make
You'd hope for more effort than that
I was saying this the pat earlier
If you're going to be lazy, which this clearly is
Or cheap
Or cheap
They announced decaparate one of the clones
Of Bison's doll army
Of Kami
With a mask on
But if you're going to do that
You might as well just copy over Zangief
And make him Hagar
And not because I'm like, you know, I like Hagar
But just because a lot of people were like
More people would be way more hyped
If you're going to have a low budget
And just the only
Final Fight character
That's not in the game
Is the main character of Final Fight
I don't really get the reasoning
Why would they announce her at the start
And so no
And that's where I disagree
And boy is she cheap too
Because she doesn't even stay true to original design
The original design has Vega's
Three-pronged claws
But if they gave
The new model
That they'd have to model
Claw animations
So instead they have like
A Psylocke energy claw
Thing that comes out
So she gets to use all of Kami's punch animations
In all fairness it looks a lot cool
It looks really cool
So here's the thing where I gotta break this down
Aesthetically this is
A really bland unfortunate announcement
Because right
Nothing new to really look at there
Gameplay wise Kamba Fiend did a walkthrough
For moves and the breakdown
Of her systems is interesting
So on a level of
Gameplay this is a fun
Edition that's going to be interesting to see
How it works into the rest of the cast
Totally agree
Why isn't it a new character
Interesting mix ups and what not
Why isn't it like a brand new character
That we didn't already know
Like you know what I mean
Because you'd have to draw that
What I'm getting at
Gameplay wise totally new character
Original ideas going on for her
The way you play as her
She's got mix ups and teleports
That work in very different ways from everyone else
It'll be an interesting thing to see
It's at least a new move set
But visually it's unfortunate
That they went with the bland route
Of reskinning Kemi
A version that looks like
Noticeably worse than the
Already existing mod
For Street Fighter 4
Now the only reason why this is being
Received so negatively
Because oh no I did it for 9 months
Exactly
9 months of bullshit
I was gonna say the worst bit is he wasn't even one doing it
Bringing herself to that boiling point
He said 9 months ago
There's the 5th character
There's 5 characters and people said
Who's the 5th character
Oh it's a secret
He said it's a secret and then we proceeded to bombard him
Who is it for 9 months
Then he should have said there are 4 characters
And did you and hold that thought
Hold that thought
Why isn't this a secret announcement
And did you see how
Over the time I would occasionally bring up
The fact that they're trying to go
Oh maybe we overdid it
Don't get too excited guys
The last thing we heard about it was
Oh no straight up saying you will be
Disappointed by the new character
Clearly people were way more excited
Than he assumed they would see
Nothing will ever be more true
I watched that announcement live
I'm gonna assume you did as well woolly
You did not
That was a fucking feed
Do what you told me about that
Like the rep that they have there
Forget his name
Is up there
And everyone's there and the crowd is like
Stomp and they're being like
Are you guys ready
And they're all going nuts
And they're cheering through the opening bit of the trailer
And then the trailer ends
And then the camera slowly pans
Over at like
Hundreds of people
Just scratching their chins
And just kinda like laying back in their chairs
And like you can hear a pin drop
It is so quiet
No one cares
Everyone's joy has been anti-joy
It is so nothing
Which brings me to the one they originally
Announced Oni and Evil Ryu
Which were
No no no
No the complete opposite reaction
People liked it
Because these were drops
Of information that happened at the last
Second
And you've got also these new characters
Also by the way
Bam here you go because why not
And everyone went like
Sick right
And it's all like in the way Skullgirls
Hit its stretch goals and they're like
We're going to throw in Rebel Fortune
Because why not
Everyone's like yeah sure that's fun
So if the Capra was not
Announced or mentioned
If she was mentioned one month from now
We thought there were only four characters
It would be high
Because it's like oh by the way
We found time to sneak in this bonus character
Sure
Especially considering she's not done yet
It's very obvious that she's bonus
So what we're finding out basically
Is or rather what Ono's discovering
Is what Mal and Yu has been through
His entire life
You can't fucking build me
A buttercup just to let me down
No and
If you plant Kami in the ground
Now you'll get to Capra
I was so
Like I was especially disappointed because
Someone had mentioned the character that
I don't think anyone maybe guessed
Which was Rose's teacher
When they showed that remember Rose's teacher
From the Udon comic
When someone showed the screenshot of her and I remember
How fucking sick her design is
And how she was almost as powerful as Bison
I was like holy shit it's her
That's fucking sick
They even troll you by having
Armica jump in
It was funny
They were going down the list of like characters
Everyone wanted to be said no to
That was really funny and inventive
And probably the worst possible way
They could have done it because they're like
Hey you're making fun of yourselves
Wouldn't you prefer this? Yes
Wouldn't you prefer this? Yes
Wouldn't you prefer anyone in this row
Of characters other than
This one
Yes oh it's this one
Oh my god
And just all in the timing of announcements guys
Like expectations are everything
When you're delivering content
To your audience
It's nuts that being said
I'm sure I'm in fact positive
That once the dust settles and the game is out
And people are playing it
And it's hitting the tournament circuit
It's going to be fun and interesting
And she'll be welcome there's no current gen
Version announced what's up with that
That Hadouken cabs thing came out forever
And because we think
That they're secretly working on
Like the big port
That will happen eventually
It's got to happen eventually
But they're not ready yet
Because I want that first
But it's got to look good
Street Fighter 4
Engine not that
Super intensive
Game already looks great
On PC it's killer just up the resin
But when you look at the PC version running on its max settings
Compared to games coming out now
It looks great
It looks great but
It could look bad
No don't redo the models
I can play it on my current consoles
And it's the same
No it's not it's the same game
It looks better
Did you buy Tomb Raider Definitive?
No because I had the PC version
Which looks better
So why would you buy it for your PS4?
Because I want to be able to play against more people
With a multiplayer game there is a bit of a thing
The PC community
On Street Fighter is not nearly as active
As the console community
Also online is nowhere near as trustworthy
No because people don't fucking lock their frame rates
So
I can't believe that's a god damn option
Why is that an option?
So that's the cap rate
So sure
Man fuck you Capcom
It's going to be a good game
And she's going to be a good character
And I know that
Like when I was talking about Delayed Wake Up
There's no way for you guys to possibly drum up
Vibe for the things that are not
Just visual cues
But gameplay wise
It's going to be sick
That being said I hope the nickname
To Crappy sticks around forever
Because it's too easy
Sure
Her second ultra
You should go check it out
Everything about the situation
Is just like so feel bad
Because the situation
We're going to put in a new character
And the unanimous response is put in anyone but this character
We put her in
We put this character in
Unbelievable
Unbelievable
Say there was a new Tekken game coming out
Everyone was like man
You remember how fucking dumb Gon was
How ruinous he was to Tekken 3
And they were like hey
Tekken 7 is going to have Gon
Don't miss him fuck you
Everyone misses Gon
I don't know
I was happy enough with just the 4s
I'm just happy enough to have him
Well here's where I'm going
The last time I tried this it didn't work
And I'll just try again
And appeal to the fact that you guys
Understand a little bit more about fighters
Than the average Joe
So I'd like to appeal
To you to
At least appreciate what happens gameplay wise
Sure I do
Because you guys
Are more than casual at fighting games
But I'm not going to play that character though
I know you can appreciate those things
A bit, you know what I mean
Not just the aesthetic level
The character is not interesting
The character doesn't interest me at all
I hate playing as Kami and I don't like
Teleport characters
Even if it's a character that you're not going to
Like I appreciate that
I'm not super psyched about
A character that's completely unplaytested
Getting into the game
She's going to get play tested
And she's been play tested
I don't trust it
All the other characters
You don't trust the burger that you see get made
In front of the burger
No no no Pat, she's been play tested in the background
What does that noise mean she has
Remember when Oni was
Like super good
And they also specifically said
In the thing where they talk about her moves
They're not going for a yun and yang situation again
I hope fucking not
Because that was Ono wanting to make a broken character
I'm so stupid
What an amazing hero
He still brought Street Fighter back to life
Fucking did
He gets a buy for as long as he wants
Until
Until, fine
The other bit of character
Unveil News was
The final boss for Excerd
Confirmed playable
And most importantly
Is her name confirmed
Because of the way
It's Ramlethal
But the way the original
Heragano was set up
You couldn't
Determine whether it was saying
Ramlethal
Lamlethal
So it was like
Which one of these word combinations
Is her
And it's finally Ramlethal
The sword that can become two swords
She's got a little familiar that jumps around the place
And she spams projectiles
Her name should have been
Bodman
Bodman
I would have hoped for Ramlethal
Because Leather is a bit more of a guilty character
Also in a total
In a not shocking twist
I'm going to make a crazy prediction
Ramlethal was totally going to get in the game
Playable because she's totally boss
You know who else is in the game
Playable currently
Sin has a character model in the game
He shows up in
Soles
So I bet he's going to be the next guy
To make it
Probably not for arcade release though
Well Ramlethal is coming to arcades very soon
So probably for arcades
Maybe
In previous games
In previous games you'd look and go like
Oh they drew a sprite for this character
Like Decapare
It's like they fucking modeled Sin
They did the work
You know why would they not do that
They'd be stupid
Crazy
Those pachinko motherfuckers
And in other news
Probably crazy
Did you see the new street fighter 4 pachinko machines
In other news
Have you seen them?
They broke the servers
Pachinko servers
I saw the street fighter slot machines in Vegas
When I went
What was the street fighter snuggie
It was depressing
But
Cheap fighting game cashins
You're way above that
No no
It was just seeing the parent playing it
While their abandoned child
Is standing outside
That's how you know you're in Vegas
Kicking a soccer ball
And not just a regular casino
That's what bumps you out
Dude did you call child services
Or did you let it go
You didn't do anything did you
Good job Wally
Wow Wim
New locals
I'm just gonna eat this chicken and waffles over here
That's not my problem
That chicken and waffles was delicious
You take it back
I would have done the same thing
Good fucking reply
Attack on Titan's dub
Is gonna feature Ashley Birch
As the potato girl
Perfect casting
All of that casting was great
I didn't see the rest of the casting
Anything notable
Let's run down to the list
You mentioned it to me the other day
And I said I'm never gonna listen to it
But that's cool that they got her to do that
Cause apparently Wally told me this is her first role
Is Annie gonna be voiced by
Aubrey Plaza
Cause that'd be pretty perfect
Levi's played by someone really good
I forget his name
I'm gonna make a random guess
And guess that Yuri Lowenthal will be voicing some character
I don't think his name is popped up yet
But he will be an extra
I'm only looking at the part one list
There's a part two list with more
But the only notable name on this list
At least that I recognize is Birch
I don't recognize any of this
Mike McFarland
Clifford Chapin
Jamie Marshy
Tybald
Brian Affill
It's funny I never see these names in the Japanese
Credits of the anime
I can never read anything
But yeah it's getting dubbed
And she's there so that's fun
That's an interesting out of left field
I can't wait for a whole new group of people
To get pissed off at the cliffhanger
But voice acting is new
Cause the only other job she's done
Would be borderlines right
But that's her thing now
Cool for her
Game of fighting news
I'm out of fighting news
I thought Smash being an Evo would be
I brought that up two weeks ago
It was only announced two days ago
Two days
Like this week
Smash is coming to Evo and MLG
Melee
Which is sick
There was a topic related to that
It was where we had that huge support argument
But that was a while ago
We didn't talk about this
Turns out the door was open all along
Do you guys have any more on that?
Good news we're happy we love Smash
It's almost as if they never
Ever
Anyways
Matt and I had the argument again
It's like good news now
So good news throughout all of time
Back in the past
The port was there from the beginning
Or it could continue
And to stop being negative
Hopefully it will
We're now back at neutral
Plus one
We love it
To stay that way
In fact let's just get that door off
And make it an open thing
Where you can't close it anymore
I know this is nitpicky
But is there going to be a new designation
Like an actual official title
Smash Bros. games other than just Smash Bros
Wii U
It drives me fucking nuts
It's really upsetting
We're not going to get kerfuffle
It's going to be called Smash for Wii U
I was talking this about someone
They're like if you want them to sell
Just call it
Put them on
If you want them to sell
Scrap the Wii U version
They don't even want to come up with another battle word
They're just like
I wish it had a name but whatever
I'm just excited for it
Smash Bros. War
Smash Bros. 4
Smash Bros. Brawl 2
Whatever
It's just so awkward to say
Smash Bros.
It does not roll off the tongue at all
And they're all great
And so what's going to happen is
They're just going to wait and the community is going to call it
Smash 4
Or pick a year and stick the year on
I just really hope that
Nintendo of America
Or NST or someone is pushing
With all this Melee popularity
For an HD remake of
Melee
Pre-order
Yeah you heard me
That would be interesting
That would be lovely
But that would involve them acknowledging Melee
As anything special as opposed to 64
And Ball
I think Sakura had a quote recently
But they don't seem to
Actually no
They just remade Wind Waker
Sakurai is even weirder
The quote from Sakurai is that
I think Melee might be the most fun
But I dislike it the most
Because of its depth
It was the weirdest thing ever
It was the amount of work
It was when I brought up not too long ago
It was on the docket
It was him saying that
Smash is a response to how
The fighting games had become
And because Melee was the most technical
He considered that almost a bit of a failure
Even though he says
In some respects it's the best one
He knows it
It went against what he wanted
To move along
We were out of fighting game news
In last of us movie news
They've confirmed that
They're going to be following the plot of the game
I'm just happy it's the same writer
Because if anything will salvage it
There's not enough time
Direction does
I think there is
Direction has a lot to do with it
That's a good start
No, that's a good start
If they don't get fucking Ellen Page
For this
Someone fucked up
That's the question
Is she not soured on the brand?
Because she spoke badly of it
A job is a job
Well, she picked a better project
Years will go where you pay them
Totally, they're basically robots
And I would have thought so
Had she not come out and say
Thanks for ripping me off
Sony Pictures is a totally different division
Like you said, a job is a job
Anything can change in the future
But right now
Sony Second
Right now she's pretty upset
About the whole new Nood League thing
That might be over
The money might be nicely
Southing her woes
What's their money in the end?
There's definitely a settlement of some kind
I don't remember
If the movie sucks and you gather the family
Have a nice time just watching the road
What's wrong with you?
But no
In my brain
She's negative about
All that matters is her brain
And then she's also negative
About what happened with the Nood thing
So maybe she's like, fuck video games
Video games are the worst
Hey, here's 10 million dollars
Man, I love video games
Dance, Juno dance
Nood League
Fucking think about acting for a second
If somebody gave you fucking 10 million dollars
To do fucking
Whatever
You'd fucking do
Do I already have more than 10 million dollars?
Maybe, but you could always use
10 million more dollars
No, but not
I mean, not everyone is Metallica
Yeah, but think about it
Did you hear where they're like, hey
Metallica, can you guys sell out for this commercial?
If you don't do it, we're gonna get a bunch of guys
That sound exactly like you
And pay them the money we would have given you
And they're like, whoa fuck
Of course we have to do it
I mean, in her case, it's like
Sales
Imprisoning me
Absolute savings
When I look good in these jeans
Oh, no
She could end up on that
And who knows, maybe Joel will be
Jamie Lannister
Jamie Lannister, I'd like to see
But I
Maybe not, let's wait and see
Happy as bad as Heavenly Zord
It would be still killer, man
Fuck that, oh my god
That Heavenly Zord
We talked about it
We all watch the trailer
It's such a straight to DVD thing
I want a piece of garbage
Did you make it through
Yeah, I watched it
I watched it, you didn't watch the whole thing?
My watchability strength
Is pretty high
No, that wasn't the segment
The segment was try not to face palm
I watched the rest of the thing
I can watch anything, I've seen some bad stuff
Stupid internet
I've been on the internet since I was eight
I don't videos are not on the internet
And thank god for that
They're dumb
They're currently in holding
With the evidence
You guys are jerks
It's letter time
Oh my goodness
Liam
Do you want to send us a letter?
No
Where is it?
Holy shit
It's at superbestfriendcast.com
That's right
That's bestfriendcast.gmail.com
Shit
You have to think about that for a second
He was faking
What was I going to say?
Dot org?
Dot net
What do we got for letters this week?
Can we get any letters this week?
Scraping the bottom
Not too bad
Scraping the bottom of this infinitely large barrel
Scraping the bottom of the kangaroo pouch
We got quite a few
We got quite a few and I want to run through as many as I can
Well then let's fucking go
So let's start off with Gabe
Gabe
Gabe says
What's wrong with you?
All week now with that shit
Gabe says you guys are great
Do you plan to do any more versus style videos like the Dark Souls 2 one?
Maybe
The formula worked, I think we'd probably want to do it again
If we can find the right date
I just got 187 ride or die
You need to ride or die
187 times
Demon Souls comes out next year
It's a good chance
Absolutely, I really liked it
That being said, boy, this is a lot of work
But no, we'll see
Game move, we find that it has to be good
I'm not going to do that much work
For a video that's going to come out like shit
But we totally agree that
It worked out
Jay wants to know
What is the stupidest eBay bid you've ever won?
Because I just want 3 PSPs
I just want 3 PSPs for 52 pounds
And I didn't even want one
That's a really good fucking get
I don't know, I don't eBay troll
Everything I've bought, I've hit the buy now
A box of Warhammer bits
For 12
The equivalent of 12 pounds
Which I used a bunch of
But I have a ton left over
For me, it was the MGS3
Sub-Systemians box
That's not a bad purchase
The Red Box
That was retarded
I bought it for 200
What about you, Matt?
You buy tons of dumb shit off eBay
Yeah, but like you, I haven't really
Needed to bid in a long, long time
Because why?
Because I just win
So I think it was
The Dark Stalkers
DVD set
The other ones, like the Mega Man
Or Street Fire, whatever, you can just buy
But for whatever reason, Dark Stalkers was a big thing
They wanted to hide it
$45
Dude, the laughter
We had at that Morrigan animation
Was so worth it
And let's not forget, that DVD
Helped start this entire
Business
Never forget, shitty Morrigan
It makes me think, we're lucky
We got
And not just a Morrigan sprite
Dude, that would have been the best
To please tell me you've seen the screenshot
Yeah!
3D Morrigan Sprites
We used that in the
Dark Stalkers Resurrection
That would have been amazing, for real
Ivan asks
You guys use the word canon a lot
But what does it mean?
Canon means, in terms of a story
Say, you know, Superman
Gets healed by the sun
You would say that's canon, because that's the rule
That's what actually happens
Follows the lore of the story
According to the creators of the story
The actual definition
If there's a TV show, and then one week
Like, the Green Ranger falls off
A building and dies, and then the next week
He's totally fine
Then the week where he fell off the building
And died was not canon
Because it didn't really happen
It doesn't have to be officially made
It doesn't have to be written by the creators
Like, the Street Fighter stories
Pieced together between
Mooks that were officially
Licensed by Capcom, but it wasn't
Made by them
So, Charlie dies
In every ending of Street Fighter Alpha 1
That's canon!
The only one that's canon is the last one
Because it replaces the other two
Like, Alpha doesn't count
What you're talking about with the mooks
And piecing stories together and stuff
Is what you call the head canon
Where there's canon that is not officially
Stated by the creators
However, it is widely accepted
Like, the likely version
Also known as fan canon
Which is stuff like Solaire's Gwyn's Son
And Dark Souls 1
Where there's a bunch of evidence for it
But it's never explicitly stated
And there's nothing that explicitly
States against it either
And everyone likes that version better
Total assumptions
Hugo is the only character
That's canon
According to the man guy
And nothing ever
Contradicts it
Because everybody else gets knocked the fuck out
Right
Uh, Mark
I would love to see Hugo's
Like reaction after that
Just um
What his face could tort into
No, but the thing is he eats it
And it fucks him up, but he's still
Awake
But he's pretty fucked up
Um, Mark says, dear guys
In Doctor Who, the female time lords
Does this rule also apply
To shit lords or scrub lords
I know it does
Shit ladies and scrub ladies
It doesn't sound as good at all
But it applies
Shit lords and shit ladies, welcome
Does lord
Yeah, lord does in the rank
Does directly translate to lady
We're just so used to the hey lady
Version of that
Because nobody says hey lord
Except if you're talking to like the singers
Hey lord
But more than that
There's like, you know, there's
Shit blank
And the blank just has to be
A rank of some kind
Can you have like a shit monsignor
A shit pep
Shit peasant
You know what I just realized
This is just trailer park boys
This is a shit bird
This is a shit hawk
This is a shit cheetah
And it changes shit spots
Yeah, yeah, yeah
Yeah
But yes, I guess lady works totally
I guess it does
This one's just a fun little note
But Jason contacted me and said
Hey, I was the first summon
That you guys called in the Dark Souls video
Radical! Thanks a lot Jason
Really small world
There's some other guy too in the comments somewhere
That left a message, yeah
Probably the same guy
But yeah, fun stuff dude
Radical
We got another one here
Man, that's gotta be surreal as fuck
Yeah, we'll do one of the odds
Right?
And also I cut out a bunch of footage
Yeah, we didn't see
There's another guy that I cut out
Exactly, a bunch of our run with him got cut
Sparky asks
Man
Dogs are writing in
If you could
If you could
Go back in time and
Alter the way
Anything was announced or released
What would you do?
Well that's the first thing
That fucking comes to mind
What a good ass week
You'd make the Capri a secret until the last week
No, I would go back to every announcement
That's ever been made and make the announcement
The day before it came out
God, you're such an idiot with that
I don't care, I don't want to wait for things
But why one day?
Everyone goes bankrupt
That's what I would do
I mean if the industry continued to be the way it was
And we all just went out and bought magazines
It would not have grown to the
Ridiculous size it is today
Yeah, but I don't want to wait for things
I would go back to
Now, now, now, now
There's one I would want to change
And one I wouldn't want to change
One of them is putting wonderful 101
For the Nintendo's E3 conference
Instead of fucking fireworks
You know what? I'm gonna change
My thing to that because that was
The most baffling, confusing shit ever
The other one is making the Xbox
One's first showing not a total shit storm
But I love that one
Yeah, I would leave that one
I'm super happy we got that now
Because then we knew
But the wonderful 101 one I would fix immediately
If we didn't get that shit show
Then we never would have gotten the summarized version
Yeah, sport, sport, sport, sport
TV, TV, TV, TV, TV, TV, TV
Water cooler, Xbox go home
Halo, TV, TV, TV
Also he notes that
You guys were talking about the Fulton system
And how it's gonna be handled
And apparently
In Ground Zero's
You're gonna need to drag them out to the extraction point
But in Phantom Pain
The recovery system will be in full effect
Pad that demo
So
That's what's up
I'm already a demo
Yeah
We've got one coming in
From
Adam
What do you think is
One of the biggest
Or a big missed opportunity
In a game or in its concept
That's good
Dante's Inferno
Dante's Inferno
The game should have been
The concept should have been
A slow-paced survival horror thing
Absolutely
Mixed with action?
No, not mixed with action
You're not wrong
Going through the levels of hell and such
You could have adapted that in a ton of ways
And they adapted it in the worst way
I guess
DMC could have been
What's the actual
Full story of Nero
And his relationship with Virgil
Like all Ninja Theory games
If the gameplay was good
Then they'd be fucking awesome games
There's a whole book that the writer of DMC4
Wrote about Nero
That never went anywhere
That could have been turned into a DMC5
Never heard
I also am going to say that
If anyone's gotten their hands on Thief
I think Thief could have
Went in a different direction
That would have been pretty awesome
Tomb Raider
With the survival horror Tomb Raider
In which you're fighting scary Japanese monsters
You mean the new Tomb Raider
But the original version of it
That was so much more interesting
And the parts of the game
In which you can still see that design
Are the best parts of that whole game
Instead of just being an uncharted thing
Which is a Tomb Raider rip
It's so meta
I'm going to go ahead and say Super Smash Bros Brawl
For two things
For it not playing more like melee
But also for it's online
Had the online been good
Even if it was Brawl
I like it a lot but it's not quite as good as melee
I would have played the shit
Out of that online
Totally unplayable
It's not even serviceable
That's what I'm saying
It's playable, it's fun
But it's still not that good
And do you remember the fucking headache
Of just getting your friends registered
To play with them
What a goddamn mess
Can I change
A console or handheld
The fucking 3DS
Should have a second analog stick
Yeah, what's up with that
The Vita should have HDMI out
Or games
All handhelds should have HDMI out
The fucking PSP go did
Alan
Yeah, component
It's all Budmans
Is it just like that on it
They came in on the lap
So what happens when I actually ask another
Budman question
Then it ends
Hey best friends
This is from Alan
Yeah, this is from Alan
Alan wants to know
If you could use any
Video game agency
Or like group
Or fuck it, expand that
Anything from your fictions to fight
Kaiju's instead of Yeagers
What would you pick
So instead of the pan pacific defense force
Instead of them
Fighting the Yeagers
If you could pick another group to fight
EDF
Yeah, that's the only answer
They fucking beat me
With a notable runner up being the United States
Government for metal wolf chaos
Yeah, I'm the elite beat agents
I'm coming from way fucking left field
But I'd love to see Yeagers versus Guy Melefs
And like
The size comparison
Yes
And specifically so that you can get Vargas
With the giant sword
Fighting Yeagers on foot
But no, like the size comparison would work out
I think so
It's the best part of any video game
And I want to see like
Giant swords versus Godzilla
You know what I mean
Like Melefs
You saw that in Pacific Rim
But like more of it
So we just want Pacific Rim too
Medieval Pacific Rim
God, they're so close to that
If Godzilla is a big success
They're just gonna make Godzilla versus Yeagers
In the next thing
They keep talking about it
The director's like, yeah, I'm really good
Feds of Gala, we've been talking about
For actual whatever
For actual
Like think about it
Legendary makes both
It's super easy
But that's not fair
Because you know they couldn't beat Godzilla
Or they'd have to just make bigger Yeagers
Well then no, it would have to be the Yeagers
Teamed up with Godzilla
To defeat the fighting Kaiji
Because at least Godzilla's from Earth
Godzilla might be a piece of shit
But he's our piece of shit
Only he can destroy Tokyo
What was it
Final Wars recently
It was so cool
The best Kaiji movie I've seen
Such a cool movie
Robert says
I was wondering if
Liam or Willie's co-workers
Know anything about what we do
Or that we are internet people
Yeah, from time to time
Matt, you remember the first day I walked in
And you were there
And I fucking walked by your desk
And the guy right next to you was like
Hey, that's that threesome fucker, isn't it?
I was like, oh this is great
Something like that
You know why, lovely
Fucking perfect
You blame Duke for that
I remember on day one I walked in
And I was like, hey Willie, and you're like
Oh, and you must have thought I was a fan
And I was like, no I know you
And you're like, I forget who you are
No, dude, when you
I met you twice before
Sounds like trouble
Yeah, I walked in
And he's like, sorry do I know you
And then you reminded me that
The first second I was like, oh
I looked like a stupid fan
We had two conversations before
But it was fun
I didn't know about 2VF at the time actually
No, there you go
I remember the first time I spoke to you
You had bought Game of Thrones
And I'm like, isn't that game shit
And you were like, yep, sure it is
Watch me make a million views
And then I said, come here you knucklehead
And I put you a noogie and then we all
It all got awkward
It was pretty saucy
Then we saw that blue dog
That blue dog
Red ring
We named the blue dog red ring
Good times, he had the gout
Are you crying? Cause I have a little
Nera asks
Three questions actually
Who sings the original opening to 2VF
I don't know
That's a friend of mine
She's actually a really talented cartoonist now
And I kind of was like, yeah
Adventure timey
Not gonna give out her name or anything
She's super cute
Girl with the bright orange hair
I've never met her before
What famous rapper would you choose
To do the Skullgirls rap
I would get Most Def
I don't care, that'd be so slick
Can I bring ODB back from the dead?
Yeah, that'd be amazing
Cause I want to see ODB hanging out with Mike Z
And talking about Skullgirl
And how they go back like babies in pacifier
No
I want to see Mace just fucking
Bomb on it
You fucking love Mace
I'm seeing a lot
Of ground swell
Around the idea
That you better fucking name
Snorlax Mace
Cause he sounds like he's asleep
That was one comment
That was not ground swell
I noticed the exact same comments
Cause it's awesome
You should make that dude happy
Wait for the episodes he's already been named
If we ever get to him
Which we haven't
Maybe we will
Not necessarily, we haven't actually encountered him
But you pre-named him
Yeah
It's gonna be Missy Elliott, isn't it
When the playthrough fails
You gotta put up a chart
Of all the Pokemon that you would have
Naked
I wanna see how far you went
Yeah, sure
That would have been great
What's the song you have randomly playing in your head
For me right now
It's Wonderful 101 X Quad City DJ's X Fort Minor
Yeah, that one's going for me too
That's a really solid track
For me it's Blumencrans
Today specifically
When I was going around town
I had my mp3 collection
I just kept going back
To Jago's theme
For me
Jago
For me it's Working vs Beastie Boys
Someone intergalactic
I fucking love that song
And I've been playing this other part
There's like a Kanye West song called
Drunken Hot Girls
But the interlude is really nice
It's a piano piece, it's so cool
And then the rest of it goes back to the original
Someone did that
And they loop it on YouTube and I go
Save it be time
Totally
We did that one
So many questions
There's one here from Richard
Hey Digger
Dammit, you're going to do this every time
And this one is
Similarly based on a
Gath thread that popped up
That's an interesting topic
Moving any character from one game
Into another franchise
That's too easy
Pick a fun one
Guts and Animal Crossing
Yes
Because he'd be really good at chopping those trees
Riding into Deus Ex
And Adam into the
Revengeance
Wow those are totally applicable
That's such a really good
It's such a shoo-in I can almost feel it
J-Hoo-T into MGS World
So everyone can freak the fuck out
The plans for J-Hoo-T at least
Yeah like what do you do to stop that
Like you're piloting
Anything from the MGS World
And fucking J-Hoo-T just shows up
And spoils all of it
What can you do?
Travis Touchdown Arcana Heart
Yeah
That game probably exists
We've been pushing Arcana Heart a lot
Internally lately
Internally but nowhere else
It's illegal to push it anywhere else
All Arcana Heart talk is all internals
The two funny ones
Are Kratos into
Soul Calibur because
Pretty much and Dante
In Resident Evil where it immediately stops
Being scary
But Dante is
In Resident Evil
He's in Resident Evil 3.5
It makes me wish Dante were in RE6
Because it could play the same
And it would be super fun actually
Yeah
That's a good question
I feel like there's a lot more money
I feel like if I had more setup
I could have come up with something
I feel like you can mix and match any 2D beat em up character
Into another one
But it would be super fun
Imagine you could play as Hagar in
I don't know a good game like Streets of Rage
Very good
You don't know
You could have picked something
You could have been clever
To where we're going
Back to the school yard
Dante asks
What affliction or crisis
Would you never wish upon your worst enemy
That's a big personal
I've wished a lot of bad
Shit on a lot of people
That were not my worst enemy
For me
It would be once again
I said it twice before I think
But the state that Lord Genma ends up in
Slash cars in Jojo
Is never
But he stops thinking at least
Kidney stones
Forget that
In real life
Kidney stones
Worst than death
I don't have an answer for this
Because if I wish evil on someone
I'm serious
Imagine that little ball of rock going through your teeth
I don't have to
It's not meant to spam
I'm pretty sure
I had a minor case of kidney stones a while ago
It was not great
It's not a lot of fun
I'm a big fan
Scientifically confirmed to be more
Painful than childbirth
Not as hard as childbirth
I'm a big fan
It wasn't that bad really
I don't see what all the complaining is about
Cramer was fine
Could you imagine
Man or woman you get to either kidney stones
Or birth and you're like
It wasn't actually so bad
The relief you would feel
But it is pretty bad though
I'm sure
I'm not getting myself dissolution
I'm a big fan of minor body ailments
Being like really
Oh yeah
There's this guy at school that I used to hate
And now I would be like
Okay you get an ice cream headache
You get pins and needles in both legs
And you get all of it at once
And the guy would be like
Just fucking kill me man
Wasn't that your thesis on how to end war
No one gets out of bed
You just give everyone these guns to shoot pins
And needles and ice cream headaches
And sniffles
You're done
You are the new outer haven
Callum asks
Is there a game franchise where your favorite game
Is actually the least liked one
By its fan base
Streets of rage
Arguably
Kirby air ride
Interesting
I would say back in the day
I remember when Wind Waker was despised
Like
Yeah that's kind of changed but you're right back in the day
And I was like I fucking love this
What are you all on
And CVS won
You like CVS won aesthetically
No gameplay wise
Gameplay wise I appreciated
At the time because I also didn't know too much
About how footsies worked
I appreciated the fact that they adopted the four button system
For gameplay
And introduced the six button system
But now that I know you need your mediums for good footsies
But yeah
Got the backgrounds
I can't think of a single
Where what you like differs from
The norm
I guess I'm a populist
Some people really like it
And other people fucking spice it
I think it's the coolest thing
A lot of the sign the hill diehards
Fucking hate it
Really
I just don't know
It's a formula switch
And if you can't handle the formula switch
Of course you react violently
Yeah
I can't think of a single thing that
I like all the best games
Fair enough
I've never had a situation
Where I'm like that's my favorite game in the series
And somebody goes what the fuck
We've had that for other people
Yeah
I think I told you this
I just remembered
Billy's favorite DMC
It's DMC 2
That's not you though
I know but fuck Billy
God damn it
I was gonna say I like Mega Man X3
More than one in today
Not by a large part of it
That's a controversial opinion
It's not better
I like it more though
I was gonna say how about we flip this also
Are there any games you dislike from a series
That are accepted as really good ones
The big ones
BioShock 1 is still the best BioShock game
Oh my god
I wouldn't say it's my favorite but I enjoy
BioShock 2 a lot
I really hated Spirit Tracks
But a lot of people think it's the best
Those people are insane
Those people are goddamn high on crack
Spirit Tracks is a fucking abomination
The Phantom Hourglass I was all right with
It was something new
I'll accept that explanation
But Spirit Tracks was just a goddamn
Fucking shit bucket down your throat
Exactly
Fucking Spirit Tracks goddamn
I know there's something out there
I had some popular shit that you hate
No
There's some super robot wars game
Variants where I
I know there's something
But I'm stretching
Sorry I got no reversal on that
That's all good
Interesting question though
Hey
Hey
I'm curious
What you guys think about the phrase
I would know
It's just a game
As a reply to you getting emotional
About something
That is the most reductionist garbage ever
It's the biggest shitiest cop out ever
It's just a movie
It's just a book
It's just your dad died
If you don't care about the medium
With the person to begin with
I think there's two takes on this
If you're getting sad about it
If you're getting emotional like that
That's something you should talk about
If you're getting angry about it
Or violent about it
It's just a game
Everything is
Proportional in value to your investment
So there are people
That were devastated by movies
There are people that have been devastated
There's both versions
It's not the content
Or the story that messed with you
It's like
I can't believe how bad this is
I'm depressed
Don't make me cry too
I got super bummed out
That was a fucking downer
I was so depressed
There is a place where
You have to go like
Media is media
And these things can affect you
Emotionally for the better or worse
But you have to put it in this box of media
You can't kill someone
The phrase comes to mind perfectly
When someone actually
Physically throws a controller
Because what is wrong with you
You're being a child
If you are a child
Then fine, you're a child
Learn and move on
I can't think of any real game
Where I was affecting me emotionally
It's asking about what you think about the statement
It's just a game
So I don't have really
A point of reference
The boss?
Not so much the boss
But the entire MGS3 thing
But I was going to say
If someone said it was just a movie
It's right after seeing Prometheus
I can't remember
The last time I had been so
Let down
For at least two days
So fucking pissed off
By all rights
I think we talked about this before
But after Prometheus you guys were like
I thought it was alright
It was like no but think about it
Whatever Matt
The next day you're like
We're angry now too
Because I went home and I sat down
On the corner of my bed
And I just stared
And then I went fuck
I was like that for the third Evangelion movie
You got to sleep on it
I was like
Oh god this feels really bad
I went to bed
And then I woke up and the first
First nice talk to said
I'm really depressed about the new movie
I said oh god me too it's the worst
It's so terrible
I'm still looking forward to the next one
To see what they do
How can you possibly say that fucking
I'm sure a lot of people felt that way
About the third Madoka movie too
Like I told you what happened
It's pretty fucking divisive
You watched a giant group of friends
You all stand up while the credits are playing
And everyone's getting that like
Confused
So what does that mean
Why is everyone getting home
Yeah
Like oh bus, tax, right
You know because then afterwards
You go look at the comic book girl 19
Thing of what Prometheus could have been
And it's like well fuck everything forever
Thanks Ridley
Christian asks
Y'all cowards don't even read humans
Lin Burger
How many times
Per week month do you go to
Canadian McDonald's aka Tim Hortons
There's one right next to my house
Yeah
I used to go every morning
I stopped
The problem with Tim's
Is that if you're just getting a sandwich
Or like a bagel like there's nothing about it
To feel bad about
There's no like
You want a coffee
Yeah but if you go to McDonald's every day
You're like fuck me
And you're not going to get the salad
Because you're in McDonald's
Right but if you go to Tim's
And you have like a couple Tim bits
Or a coffee or a sandwich
Or a bagel
And you don't walk out going man
I feel like a human sack of shit
You know that's a good bagel
Yeah
I would probably
Maybe a little more
It's right near where me and Willie work
I go there maybe minimum five times a month
And the one near your guys
Is like super busy and efficient
It's 24 hours
Oh and you know it's 24 hours
And I'm the guy that's often like
3 in the morning go get a fucking whatever
No dude the Tim's right next to my house
24 hours so when it's 5.30 am
And I have yet to go to bed because I'm not tired
Like I could really go for a bagel right now
Well
I'm going to go get a bagel
Just one more fucking
Run through whatever
That creepy tunnel
A Heidi's tower of flame
Just one more
Oh god
And I want to end off with
Miles asking
Hey guys
Ask him how Nick's doing
What is your preferred sword type
Don't worry the answer to the question
Totally won't correlate to a package
Headed your way
How about
Wait
Now in general
Is it written that sarcastically
It's written that sarcastically
Which is why my answer is going to be
How about none right maybe
Like sometimes a letter is nice
I want to answer this
Please send me a letter saying that
You're going to send me a dragon slayer
You know like sometimes it doesn't
Need to be like weapons
You see here's the quite a few weapons
In all of our places right now
Because here's the deal
I want to answer this question but it comes with a caveat
My favorite type of sword is the ultra great sword
Which is
The dragon slayer
Which is something that if
A person gave me one I'd be pissed
I'd be like
Come on man
I have a life, I have a room
There's a company that makes replicas of them
But they're completely out of stock
They're never going to be anymore
But to say that
Like personally yeah same thing great sword
Dragon's way hinder
I happen to be fond of
No seriously though don't send it
Don't send us anything
We want to talk about this
I happen to be fond of one thing
With advent children is the cloud's new sword
Oh yeah it's great
Sick all the combinations
And the sliding
And they all have the slat the hinges
Yeah that's great
I'm sure we all do but
I like how like simple and military
It is
I like how it has screws on the blade
Yeah it's sick
That's a nice little touch there
But to reiterate miles
Honestly dude
You really don't have to
We very much appreciate your email
Yes
You can draw us pictures
Of them and that's fine too
Same thing with weapons and
We've got quite a few
And some people keep hurting themselves with them
Yep it's a trend
There we go
What is the Zybatzu
Putting the watch on this week
You know what I'm just going to say
Go back and say pro rustling
X
I think that's pretty good
But we're all going to be playing Metal Gear Solid
I think this week
I might not
Dark Souls and Metal Gear are going to dominate
My life and then Infamous on Friday
Yeah I'm really looking forward to all
Those and I'm looking forward to
Yaiba
I am looking forward
To you looking forward
At this point Pat and I have gotten into
A thing where it's not even like good or bad
It's happy or disappointed
Pat is looking forward
To it being disappointed on behalf of
Liam
If that game is anything other than total
Garbage I will be
Shocked
The reviews come out tomorrow
Today
So you listener
Can check within the next 30 seconds
To see if Liam or I are right
And I'm on the side where it's like wait and see
We might never know I'm expecting
At least killer is dead level
Which is not super great
But I'll see
I did not know that the lead designer
Of Spec Ops The Line
The weirdest
But I mean that's one of those things where
If you're a programmer
It's like what does Spec Ops The Line
Have in common with Mighty Number 9
Yaiba
That's weird
What is coming up on the channel gentlemen
Moriac is the Dark Souls video
That Liam and I recorded went up yesterday
More Nuzlocke
I promise
Nothing
No
We promised that we'd get a DLC done
Last week and then we didn't
There's a snafu
There's a bit of a scheduling snafu
I didn't buy it
That was the scheduling snafu
I accidentally didn't buy it
I don't remember to buy things
It will happen eventually
Apartment tour video might be done
This week
I hear you put up a really cool thing
Yesterday
Serial
I'm shocked at the amount
Of stirring the pot it does
Where it's Reese's
Peanut Butter Cups
Sorry Reese's Puffs
It's called Reese's Puffs
In the United States
But in Canada it's called Reese Puffs
And there's so many people
A boiling
What's that saying you use
A boiling point
It really brings my piss to a boiling point
Yeah
You used it
In the Serial video
Coincidence
Or international powder keg
Ready to explode
And I was saying soon Matt's
Going to look outside his window
And see little sabotages from dudes
In mascot suits
Staring at and writing
A bunch of Kellogg's guys beat the shit out of Liam
And Liam's at my door
He's like Matt they told me you're getting too close
To the truth
You're going too deep Dye
No I got to keep plunging in
I could have said that better
Tomorrow it's not on the channel
But I'm going to try a thing
You mean today
Today Tuesday
At 7pm eastern
Oh what's the URL
Is it twitch.com slash
I guess
Maybe it's twitch.tv
You'll put a link
We're going to put a link
Twitch.com slash
To BF Liam
I'm going to be streaming Ground Zeroes
From beginning to end
Which may or may not be a total train wreck
So you'll either be able to laugh with me
Or at me
Some people may have caught me streaming Strider
Last week and it won't be just
10 minutes of no mic
And gameplay because that was just a test
To see the archiving stuff
So for the couple of tens
I'm sorry for that
I don't mean to have gotten your hopes up
But don't get your hopes up for this either
It'll be fun
Please get excited
Please get excited for the sound of your nervous voice
My nervous voice
Also if anyone does ask a question
You should just do this voice the whole time
Hey guys it's time to stream
Ground Zeroes
No you should breathe really heavily
To the mic
You should have a fan on in the room
And then go find a crying baby
I'll get a crying baby and I'll play a rap
That kid from Harnold with the
Yeah
I swear to God
This is way out there and has nothing to do with anything
But was there anything more upsetting
Than playing a game on Xbox Live
And hearing a crying baby
In the background that was clearly
Not being taken care of
That was the most upsetting
Shit ever
Nah man just send it to vibrate
Like clearly
You are the person
Guy I'm playing
Or lady I'm playing that should be taking care of that baby
And you are not
And then you get the message from
The afterwards going like
Hi you fucking you mad
You just lost cause my baby was crying
And my bitch was yelling at me
Says the guy playing vanilla cigar
Fucking garbage
Isn't baby actually due for feeding?
No
She's infinite
Just for the twitch thing for anyone who's not up on how twitch works
I'm gonna be keeping an eye on the chat
And answering questions or whatever
But there's a 30 second delay
So if you ask something
So ask things before you need to
Thank you and need to ask
Wait half a minute and if I don't answer it
I'm sorry
The chat was too fast
Maybe
Just think of it like you're time traveling
Kind of
In a reverse way
It's gonna be a wreck
It's gonna be a train
It'll be fun
I look forward to it
Should we do something with ground zeroes?
No probably not
We don't know much about Mel
Why would we do something with ground zeroes?
Why would you do anything?
We might if we have another spare 3 minutes
We could probably play through ground zeroes
We could spot and vanish on the side
In the middle of you bust out the whole game
Whatever on streaming who cares
In the middle of your joking
Put that shit up and see if it gets content
I'd eat first
Then decide
We'll see what's going on
See you guys next week
Thanks for watching!
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