Castle Super Beast - SBFC 035: GIFs are for Chodes, WEBM is for Big Dick G's

Episode Date: April 8, 2014

WEBM is the official file format of pimp ass beast dogs. If you even THOUGHT about posting a GIF just now, get out of my face. Email us at superbestfriendcast at gmail dot com....

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Starting point is 00:00:00 The Streak is over! No! The Streak is over! The Streak that we didn't actually care about for the last ten years, we're all broken up that it's over. We didn't truly appreciate it. Some people are saying it was time, no one really remembered it anymore. It wasn't the time, the time was three years ago.
Starting point is 00:00:36 And now there's no more mail back. Well, yeah, no, Undertaker lost at WrestleMania 30. To Brock Lesnar! Of all people. And that's the one, that's the butthorx source. A fucking part timer! The butthorx source is not that he lost, it's that who he lost to. If he lost to Triple H or Stone Cold or Rock or Shawn Michaels or even fucking Cena, even
Starting point is 00:01:00 Cena! Even Cena would suck, but it would help things. Yeah, you'd be like, are you on a part time? No, no. Part time. Part time. You know, people that are more deserving generally, you know, it's a shame, but I hear that there's, that's the least of the shames that occurred that night.
Starting point is 00:01:19 Oh yeah. Is it? Because Muscle's Mixed Sword tattoo is a pretty bad one. No, there's, you know, overall it was a good show, I think. Overall good, really, because I've been hearing negative, if not, like, worthless watch, except for Daniel Bryant and, Daniel Bryant and, um, The Liots. I heard those were the only guys that actually put on a decent show. Well, I must say, man, you've got a thing next to you, what is that thing?
Starting point is 00:01:43 Should I go into this thing? Let's just get into it. What's going on? Well, I came prepared, and I have a series of notes, three pages of notes. Because I watched WrestleMania the entire way through, WrestleMania XXX, which is a pretty way to say it. It's pornography, but they switched their numbers in because people don't understand Roman numerals.
Starting point is 00:02:04 Wait, what? Really? No, it's at the giant stage, it's at WrestleMania XXX. Oh, they went for the numerals again? Okay. I really wanted Vin Diesel to come out, but... Oh man, and Ice Cube. And Ice Cube.
Starting point is 00:02:15 Yeah, Ice Cube. At the same time. Uh, so the first thing you might notice about WrestleMania is that when you see, uh, uh, Waller, Michael Cole, there's three giant bottles of Mountain Dew visible at all times. Fuck. When they go back to them, their Waller is literally going, oh, I love this Mountain Dew. I love where Mountain Dew advertising has gone, because nobody gives a shit anymore, and it's just funny.
Starting point is 00:02:42 Didn't Waller... You're basically like... It was kind of funny. I'm not going to spend their money anymore. I'm not going to buy that anymore. They're the only guys going that far, that hard, all the time, because they're supporting all this stuff. And we get a laugh at...
Starting point is 00:02:53 Didn't Waller have like a fucking heart attack like two years ago? Yeah. Like, would he be... Could he be Downing Mountain Dew? No. But it was... It was diet now. Fuck.
Starting point is 00:03:03 No. No, during all the commercials, they kept saying diet Mountain Dew, it's the only diet with dew in it. Meanwhile, Red Bull is sponsoring Dude's Parachuting From Space. Right? And crazy ass, like, extreme games and sports and whatever. We'll see now that the WWE Network exists, and the wrestling is now touching the internet. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:03:24 Now some of the internet's boogeyman's are going to touch the wrestling. They're going to cross over. For a good reason. We're going to see WWE Bonsie Buddies soon. Yeah. Oh my god. The host of WrestleMania XXX was Hulk Hogan, and by host, I mean, he showed up twice during the three hours.
Starting point is 00:03:41 He's also dead. Yes. He barely is, because as soon as he walks in, he starts flubbing everything. He goes, it's great to be here in the Silver Dome. They aren't in the Silver Dome. Nice. They're in the Super Dome. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:03:56 Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's in Pontiac, Michigan. They're in New Orleans. Crowd starts booing this shit out of him. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:04:04 He then says it another time, because he still doesn't know that it's because he's either too old or because he's fucking drunk. No. The bandana's on too tight, man. The bandana's on too tight. Well, you gotta hide the hair curtain. Yeah. He looked like shit, and as he's stumbling a thing, Austin's theme shows up.
Starting point is 00:04:19 Austin comes in and starts saying, I'm going to beat the shit out of you. The crowd starts going nuts, then the rock shows up. Why? When it comes in, then the rock just starts saying how great they are. They're like, Austin, you're my best bud, and Hulk Hogan, you're my idol. What? Yeah. Weird?
Starting point is 00:04:37 Just summing it up. And then all three of them, literally. I've never seen the most clear way to say it. They were all circle jerking on each other saying, you're the best. You're the coolest. They all drink beers, and they leave. They reach around with one hand and the beer with the other. And then when you're done with the beer, you know what, yeah.
Starting point is 00:05:02 I was like- Use your imagination, kids. So they didn't do anything. They didn't say anything. There was no angles. Remember us, kids? But just let's create a moment where the three biggest in the world. Well, WrestleMania said a long problem over the past couple years of just like, oh, we
Starting point is 00:05:19 need somebody. Get rock out of the movie. Put them in the thing. Yeah. And he showed up, and the rock was good. Like, I was like, hey, he's doing the job. Hey, if they don't come in and do the do it, it'll pay the bills. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:05:29 Hey, also, you know I'm going to be in a new Hercules movie. Yes, it's coming out this summer. You, Hulk Hogan, have performed Herculian Feets that reminds me of my film coming soon to theater. Hulk Hogan. Disney's new Hercules. Hulk Hogan, you are like a lion. Much like the lion that Hercules- anyway.
Starting point is 00:05:52 The first match is actually Daniel Bryan versus Triple H for the right to be in the final match of the night. Yes. Oh, wow. Daniel Bryan versus Orton versus Boutista. Yeah. And like, everyone will love that shit. So, like, why even watch it?
Starting point is 00:06:10 Because Daniel Bryan has to win. Yeah. And the most shocking thing about this match is that Steph comes out, literally dressed, googled it later. She dresses like Mia Fey. Okay. She's googled it now. She's in a little short mini skirt, and like the exact same thing Mia Fey wears.
Starting point is 00:06:27 And I was like, fucking the hottest thing I've ever fucking seen. No, what did Triple H lose? Because he was distracted. Really? Because when I see Steph, all I can see is her dad's face. I can't see that anymore. Oh. By the way, when Triple H came out, he was dressed like a Golden Skeletor.
Starting point is 00:06:44 Oh, yeah. Which we've all seen, like, in some other WrestleMania we never watched. He's wound up the throne. That he goes, he's on a Golden Throne- The Viking Throne. With a Viking Throne, but it's all gold, chainmail, spikes, and Vestal Virgin girls holding plates of grapes. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:07:01 And then Daniel Bryan comes out to nothing. And he wins! And he wins! And then the crowd goes on to it, he beats him super easily. Right before- I heard he fucked himself up, too. They play up an angle where his shoulder was just super dead, and Triple H worked in. He had to have, like, a whole wrapping around his shoulder.
Starting point is 00:07:19 How's he going to go into the match for the title with his busted shoulder? Yeah. Stacking the deck against him. Like before Triple H goes in the ring, him and Steph Eskimo kiss, which people don't know is just- Rub his nose in. It's just, it just looks like his nose is eating her body. No!
Starting point is 00:07:38 He just rocks her the fuck unconscious with his nose. It was pretty fucking sweet. Andre the Giant Battle Royale. Was that me? Did a mini-royal rumble, I heard. No, it's the reverse. It's everyone starts in the ring, and then everyone gets thrown out as it goes on. Guess what?
Starting point is 00:07:58 Kofi Kingston, again, did an amazing thing. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He gets launched out. But he landed. I don't know how. This is why Ruslan is amazing, because he gets knocked the fuck out, like, thrown out, and he's just able to land with both his feet on the bottom step of the medal. But his back is on the ground, but his feet are touching the stairs.
Starting point is 00:08:19 He goes back in and immediately gets thrown out for real, because fuck Kofi Kingston, right? But he gets the pop though. But he gets the pop though. Last time he was amazing. Every time he does the Spider-Man antics, you know? The Battle Royale, like this, when I see it, I go, wow, this is the mid-card ass dumping. Whoever is not good enough to be in it. Just shove him in here.
Starting point is 00:08:38 You notice that Andre, you notice that The Big Show is the biggest Andre the Giant mark, because he's wearing Andre the Giant's. The singlet. The singlet. Absolutely. The big show hasn't worn in forever. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That was the old Giant costume.
Starting point is 00:08:54 The exactly old Giant costume. And I heard he got picked up and literally tossed out for the first time in his life. In the house show that we saw, the guy named Cesaro, who does a lot of uppercuts, is a ball guy. Oh yeah, the dude that does the dumb Giant Swing. The guy that does the dumb Giant Swing. He literally picks up Big Show and just holds him like a wizard. Not a struggle.
Starting point is 00:09:16 When Hulk Hogan picked up Andre the Giant, it was like, the momentum is what did it. And Andre helped out. This guy fucking picks up Big Show and just throws him the fuck out. And then you're like, oh, Big Show must be super pissed. Big Show, like after he gets up, he's like, oh, fucking lost. He just shakes the guy's head like, did you fucking you pick me up? I've never been this. So that Giant Swing, I thought was the dumbest idea until I saw an animated gift just the
Starting point is 00:09:40 other day of him doing the Giant Swing, like next to the barrier in the crowd. Yeah. Or he's just bouncing the guy between the barrier back and forth. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. John Cena versus Bray Wyatt and Bray, the Wyatt guys had a whole band doing their theme. It was the most longest elaborate, the lights are all off and as soon as they go on the crowd goes nuts. Like they love the entrance.
Starting point is 00:10:05 Nice. John Cena comes out. Of course, everyone booze him. The whole thing about this match is that what everyone wants, which is the Bray guy saying, I'm going to bring out the monster in you. I'm going to make you a heel because I'm going to push you to like kill me. And then John Cena doesn't kill him. No, because he's a good old American Marine.
Starting point is 00:10:25 He just does his dumb move and that's it, but everyone really wants him to go nuts and kill the guy. I really wanted someone to have a sign that says, Super Slap. That being said, the camera guy who was like on one of the corners doing that match should get special props for following it because when Cena goes to hit the ropes. Tons of guys run. When he goes to hit the ropes and like do a leg drop or whatever the fuck he does. And the cameraman is smartly pulled so far away off of Hillbilly, what's his fucking
Starting point is 00:11:01 name? Wyatt. Wyatt, that when the camera goes back, the dude's in the full on poltergeist position and did the entire thing completely out of frame so that for the viewer it's actually a shot. It looks like, yeah, like you didn't know what he was doing. No, the cameraman sold the match, just as good as anybody else. It's a really important part of that.
Starting point is 00:11:21 They talked about everyone that was an inductee into the Hall of Fame, Jake Roberts, fucking Scott Hall walks on stage, accepts his award and says, you can get through bad times, but you can never keep bad guys down. That's great. Lita. And then he used the homework bone and returned to Drangliet. Thanks, DDP. I didn't look good, but he was fucking walking around, which is better than the last time
Starting point is 00:11:51 I fucking saw him. Lita got inducted, but we're fucking classy as hell. Awesome, that's good. And fucking Ultimate Warrior came out. I can't believe they brought it out. The last time I heard WWE put out a DVD saying the DVD was called Warrior Sucks. It was the ultimate destruction of the Ultimate Warrior. It was completely burying him, right?
Starting point is 00:12:16 Maybe they're pushing him again. But then I forgot, oh wait, of course, WWE 2K14 DLC, of course, money. He was a big thing there. So, hey, do you guys like money? Yeah. So Ultimate Warrior came out with his theme and everything, walked slowly out and did bows and I was like, you're not the Ultimate Warrior, get out, you should be the Ultimate Warrior.
Starting point is 00:12:35 Ultimate Warrior's got to sprint down to the ring and go nuts on the rope. His face has got to go turn around and just spit on it. And halfway through the ceremony, the paint has to be completely off. I heard what you would call it, Shield versus Kane, complete no-salt. Nothing. It was like five minutes long. Oh, really? But the Shield are all super over.
Starting point is 00:12:56 Everyone loves them now. Even the other two guys that we didn't care about became Roman Reigns. They have these cool little skull masks when they come to the ring now and just pull them off. They look cool. Undertaker versus Brock Lesnar. Undertaker comes out, awesome entrance, Brock Lesnar comes out, and the crowd go mild. I'm stealing that from a lot of stuff you're reviewing.
Starting point is 00:13:21 It's a good line. It's almost as if Jeff Jarrett walked out on the fucking ring. Yeah, no reaction, just not even boos. Oh, that's bad. No boos. Yeah, that's worse. That's way worse because you ever think there's no angle. We're not entertained.
Starting point is 00:13:38 I almost feel bad for Brock then because he's walking out to nothing and he's like, oh, now I get to be like, this is going to go over real well, I bet, that I'm going to break the streak when no one even cares enough to boo me. Good thing I can go right back to UFC. Yeah. The other thing I forgot about Brock Lesnar is fucking every day is upper body day. Yeah, of course. Dude looks like a fucking freak.
Starting point is 00:14:00 You know what he looks like? Disney character. No, he looks like he belongs in Batman the Animated series. It's a tiny DC character. Yeah, Bruce Lee character is also exchangeable. Okay, so he wins in the most boring nothing match. The crowd commits suicide. Everyone was, on NeoGaff, it's called, the poll is, are you legit shook?
Starting point is 00:14:24 Yes or no? I'm legit shook. Everyone was legit shook. Just before we started, we're looking at the fans' reaction. Yeah, yeah, yeah. They're all just backflipping. That was more entertaining. Mouth's open.
Starting point is 00:14:35 It's not anger, it's not sadness, it's not resentment, it's just disbelief and shock. Yeah, spending the rest of the night picking their jaws off the floor. So while everyone went shock, it's time for the Divas match. It's like... I heard this was the worst thing. Why would you put this here? I heard this was absolutely... It's bad enough...
Starting point is 00:14:56 It's a nice cool down from the most traumatic thing in your viewing history ever. I took a shit during this part, so I think AJ Lee won, which she's had the Divas title for two years now. Wow, sure. Amazing. Undisputed. Okay, in a very early podcast, I said how in NXT they have this amazing girl called Paige with black raven hair, British accent, and her move is called the Paige Turner.
Starting point is 00:15:25 Yeah, it works. It's fucking sick, and I'll start caring about Divas matches when she's in there. Daniel Bryan, or as he's known now, D'Brai, because that's what you call dudes now when they're that over. No, shut up. Versus Orton and Boutista. Please tell me you've actually written down Boutista. There it is, Boutista.
Starting point is 00:15:48 Orton comes out, does his legend killer pose with both belts. I can hear Wooly orgasming in the audience away. Yeah, Wooly's not watching it. But his boner goes off. He just knows. Okay. The highlight of the match was, I'm not sure, I'm sure Pat's at least saw this. I have not.
Starting point is 00:16:11 It's Boutista having Daniel Bryan on a table doing his Boutista bomb, like power bomb. Then before he hits, Randy Orton doing his RKO combo at the same time. Yeah. Randy Orton landed on one of the TV monitors and fucking slashed the shit out of his back. Yes, and that's what we all heard is like, dude's back is done. That's what we come to see. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:16:40 Apparently, because the table was meant to break, but that did not fall apart. It's like NASCAR, man. No yory voiceover, the thing broke, but no one took that fucking... It's really unhyped when they take those things out now, because it's like an extra process. The TV monitors. The TV monitors. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So Daniel Bryan obviously wins, because even if he wasn't scheduled to win after Undertaker,
Starting point is 00:17:04 they then rescheduled him to win, because there's no way. I'm not going to make it out of the building if Daniel Bryan fucking doesn't win this match. Exactly. We've got to try to save some of them. And apparently it was up to Hunter Hertz Helmsley to run the rest of the show, because Vincent Man left to go into the ambulance with Undertaker, because Undertaker received a big concussion. Well, I've got to say that's at least nice of him.
Starting point is 00:17:26 At least nice of Rob Lesnar to not be careful. I bet Vince was thinking that if he was in the ambulance with Undertaker, then at least the ambulance wouldn't explode. But no, Undertaker is number one. You have to go. Oh, no. And that's why I'm saying at least Vince went, because would it be worse if he didn't? I don't know.
Starting point is 00:17:53 He didn't run the show, apparently, because nothing went wrong, I guess. I guess so. Daniel Bryan wins. There's tons of fireworks. You can't have his real life girlfriend come out, because she's an evil diva. She's a heel at the moment. She's a heel. She's the Bella, one of the Bella twins.
Starting point is 00:18:09 And the other twin is fucking John Cena as well. So who came up? His sister and his niece, but to the crowd. It looks like his wife, if she's got blonde hair, and a little girl who is adorable and family. Look, family. Yeah, it's gotta be. No sick heel term.
Starting point is 00:18:25 Fucking drop kick your knees. I want a cerebral mental image of a four-year-old girl just flying across the ring into the road. And then they have to have a ladder match for her custody. They hang her from the chain. She's crying, and he's just like, yes, yes, yes. I'm always disappointed that they never actually hang the kid from the chain. That's always the paper.
Starting point is 00:18:51 There's a lot of animated gifts of the entire arena, and the Superdome is like 36,000 people. 76,000 people. You mean the Silver Dome. The Silver Dome. No, the Superdome. Thanks, Hogan. Everyone pointing up going, yes, looks amazing. Absolutely.
Starting point is 00:19:07 It was like awe-inspiring. So you're saying that Brian is over. He looks like he's over. He's a little over. He's a little over. For real. You know, in regards to what we saw last time, and we all saw Royal Rumble, this was like way better than the Royal Rumble.
Starting point is 00:19:20 Okay, catch the highlight reel. So Matt, would you say that now is the time to actually start caring about wrestling again? No. Okay. That's the verdict that I need to end. We hold your horses. We'll care when cool things do happen, but I'm not going to sit around and wait for those cool things that I watch.
Starting point is 00:19:43 But good matches are happening, and good work is getting done. I hope the Cesaro guy, I hope they actually push him. And thanks to the fans that invited me into this place where I got to watch the pay-per-view, among them, Arznik Katnip and Holy M. Bison, who I'm familiar with. It was a great stream. Ran well. Ran well. Okay, so good business.
Starting point is 00:20:07 Good business. Good business. All right. All right. Good business, man. That'll take up your week, I guess. No, but. That was his entire week.
Starting point is 00:20:15 Fine. Hey, man, I didn't do shit this week, so fucking take my time. Double-slot it? Sure. Yeah, double-slot it. Me and my best friend Liam saw Captain America, the winner soldier. Thanks for inviting me. You weren't invited because the guy that invited us doesn't like you.
Starting point is 00:20:31 Yeah, whatever. Likely excused. Yeah, well. Wait, which guy was it? You're wrong. That's right. Anyway. I got to see that.
Starting point is 00:20:39 I got to see that. Maybe me and you can see it, and we'll not invite them, these motherfuckers. Awesome. Sick. The last time I invited you to a movie, you complained and bitched the entire time. What movie was it? GI Joe. Oh, that movie sucks.
Starting point is 00:20:52 So there you go. Why'd you invite me to that shit? Anyway. Do you guys like Metal Gear? Yes. Because you'll like the winner soldier. Yeah. It's a spy movie, and it is like the whole time through, I kept looking at Matt and saying,
Starting point is 00:21:04 this is just Metal Gear. This is just Metal Gear. Cool bits of it. They rip off cool bits of Metal Gear constantly for the first hour and a half. Snake-eater-specific. Man, I got to ask. Yeah. Mostly Snake-eater, but various.
Starting point is 00:21:16 That sounds pretty sick, Matt. I got to ask. Did you actually watch the whole movie and that fucking get up? No, I did not. Aw. That. Come on. That would have been so good.
Starting point is 00:21:26 I know. Just throwing popcorn everywhere. There was an actual Captain America cosplayer there. There always is, though. It's always on there. I can't believe how hard they ripped off Metal Gear for some things, but that's good. But it was really... It's a spy movie with a bunch of action.
Starting point is 00:21:41 No, rip off Metal Gear. Sounds good. Metal Gear movies are never going to come out. Exactly. It also really... I told Liam this. It has one of the coolest things about how you show how a movie is put together well, versus a movie that is shit, like Man of Steel.
Starting point is 00:21:54 Okay. Yeah. Man of Steel. Everyone in Metropolis gets killed. Superman's like, huh? Right? I saved them. Because no one thinks in the movie about how that looks.
Starting point is 00:22:05 No one thinks about the collateral damage and what the audience is going, wow. A lot of people getting touched. It's the kind of thing where you see Superman punched through an orphanage. Yeah. And like, oh, it'd be cool to see him go through a building like that. Let's make it an orphanage where no one actually thinks about like, Superman doesn't blow up orphanages. Because you don't see the bad people. Yeah, they all went home.
Starting point is 00:22:25 In Captain America, three Hella Carriers go down at the same time. Yeah. And I'm seeing them go down. Like, that's a lot of collateral damage. But fortunately, the shield base is in a body of water. So no one gets hurt. Yeah. It's in a lake, like a river.
Starting point is 00:22:42 Yeah. It makes enough sense. It's like Washington, DC. Right. So it's like, oh, okay. It collapses on itself. It collapses on itself. Everyone's fine.
Starting point is 00:22:50 Don't get any more specific. That's as much as how it's going. I'm just saying like, wow, that's how you think. Right? Yeah. And Cap's characterized well. Like, he's not happy with everything that's going down. That's kind of the crux of a spy movie.
Starting point is 00:23:05 A tiny little gag is a character saying, hey, you know what? You should catch up. You know what the album that the only thing that you need to listen to to catch you up in the 20th century is Marvin Gaye. Okay. Yeah. Then Captain America goes, okay, I'll write that. I'll add that to the list.
Starting point is 00:23:21 And he takes out a list and he writes Marvin Gaye. And then up above it, you see Rocky, Rocky II with a question mark and other stuff pizza. Yeah. This is like that. No, I saw that. Literally that list is different in every country that the movies show. Really? Every single country has a specific one.
Starting point is 00:23:42 The Beatles. Of course it does. I got to look into that. That's really cool. What a weird touch. It was fucking awesome. Probably the best Marvel movie in a while. Better than the original?
Starting point is 00:23:52 Better than the original. Better than the original. I wouldn't say that's hard. I would say that's pretty hard. The original was really stilted. The original was fantastic. I love the original. You're drunk.
Starting point is 00:24:01 No. I can't believe we trust you with the podcast. Director of the Rocketeer. Perfect guy to fucking get this age list. I don't know. It got really weird. It fell right into our list. But anyone's bet.
Starting point is 00:24:10 This one's really good. And was it like direct adaptation of the Winter Soldier story or did it stray? Okay. Well, just specifically the Winter Soldier was taking another Winter Soldier, but there are other things like all this shield stuff that's taken from other comics. Okay. Falcon is not like... It's a mix, but it feels very consistent.
Starting point is 00:24:31 Okay. I really enjoyed it. And it had one of the more fun, like next movie teases. Yeah, it had a really good one. Yeah. It really did, actually. What else did you do, Liam? I read a comic book called Irredeemable.
Starting point is 00:24:45 Yeah. Boy, that was really good. Are you familiar with it? Irredeemable. Yes. Yes. Okay. So Irredeemable, I read the first trade and I ordered the second one today because
Starting point is 00:24:54 I was like, damn, I want to read the next one. It's about your Superman kind of hero who goes bad, which is like totally a story that's been told and told, but like he goes bad because of like strife and because of his friends betraying him and letting him down and just a constant stream of tribulation over years of being the hero just gets to him and snaps him eventually. Not like fucking Superman and Injustice where it's like, oh, I killed Lois by mistake. I got us killed. Time to be Hitler.
Starting point is 00:25:23 Exactly. This guy becomes... That's a heel turn. Was this your reintroduction to the Western comic, I guess? No. I read comics every now and again. I have a little pile at home just to read. Because I'll say it was like the pack-in that came with Marvel 3.
Starting point is 00:25:40 This is the first one I've read in a while where I'm like, yeah, I want to read the next one. I don't know if you saw what I walked in with Wonder Woman U52 and I've read that. It's all right. But this was really fun and it really plays up the like Superman gone bad kind of trope way better than anything else. And there's a really good atmosphere of like tension and pressure on all the protagonists who I would call superheroes.
Starting point is 00:26:05 But I feel like that term undermines what they're going for with the book. Where everything's really morally ambiguous. Where these superheroes, quote marks in the air here, are doing that supervillain thing of just trying to get any dirt on this guy to take him down. You know, they're going to find his family, his origins. They're talking to all the villains they can see. Did he ever say anything about anywhere he ever came from? Because they know nothing and they need to get the influence off.
Starting point is 00:26:31 So this is the Superman goes evil story in a world that didn't have Batman keeping tabs? Yeah, yeah. So that'd be a problem. Yeah, exactly. To the point where like one of the main characters is desperately, desperately trying to find the arch nemesis of that guy. Air quotes again. He was the only person who's almost ever defeated him.
Starting point is 00:26:53 And like, it's just desperate. And I've only read the first one and it ends on that note of desperation where they're just like, we have fucking nothing. And this guy is killing us and he's killing us like nuts. Like you can hear our heartbeat. And he knows where we are. And the only thing they have is they have these teleportation things. They can just get them away in a snap.
Starting point is 00:27:13 But like, he's super nuts. And like, yeah. And the other one was I watched an anime that my girlfriend was recommending me for the whole season and it wasn't that I didn't want to watch it. Just I kind of wanted to wait for it to be out. It's called Nagino Asukara. And it was, it's a romance anime, which I don't know if you guys are into, probably not.
Starting point is 00:27:34 Romance is pretty good. Yeah. What do you mean by see one or two? What's another romance anime that's well known? That's well known. Karen and Stiffy. Carrie Cano. Fucking lovely complex.
Starting point is 00:27:46 There's a couple anyway. But it kind of plays a really fun trope that I love halfway through the series. That kind of made me love the series even more. But I can't say it spoils the whole thing. Exactly. But it's about these four characters who are going to junior high and their school, which is underwater, because they live underwater, has shut down. And they have to go to the above water school.
Starting point is 00:28:09 So big daddy's. And the above water school, those guys don't like those guys at all. Sure. There's a bit of a racism thing going on for a little bit. Not racism, but they just arrive. Not even, not classism, but a rivalry. Okay. And one of those guys has passed higher jerks.
Starting point is 00:28:28 I was about to say it. And the other guys are like, we're better than them because we're taking their women. Gesh, gesh, gesh. Yeah. And like, there's a big like cultural thing where if someone stays above the water for too long, they lose the ability to breathe underwater. That sounds like a raw deal. So like slowly they're losing population to the above ground people.
Starting point is 00:28:47 Yeah. Because if one woman decides to leave, then no more water babies. Lots of cool stuff upstairs. Exactly. You know, the sky, that's pretty killer. But it doesn't work in the opposite way. So that's kind of like digging. That is a raw deal.
Starting point is 00:28:58 And there's a big like societal fight there. But like one of the main characters has this little romantic tinge happen with one of the boys up top. Of course. And meanwhile, there's a boy underwater who likes her. And it doesn't seem like she likes him. But it wouldn't be interesting if they weren't Star Cross lovers. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:29:13 And this is one of the most nuts, like love pentagons I've ever seen. Because not a triangle. No, it's big and it's like there's a lot going on in it. And it's really fun. The only thing I didn't really like about it was I feel like they played on love too much like as a central theme. But that's, it's a romance thing. I know.
Starting point is 00:29:31 I know. But like the same group. Too much. The same group with a different writer. You did another anime called Hanasaku Iroha recently, which had like four really good romances in it over the same amount of episodes. But it also had a lot of other stuff going on. And this one was like just romance.
Starting point is 00:29:47 And the real saving grace for me was the halfway point twist. That is my favorite fucking trope when it's done right. But it spoils the whole thing. Tell us later after the thing. I will. But yeah, Nagino Asukara, a really fun anime if you want a romance anime. Also really pretty. Lots of water.
Starting point is 00:30:04 And like good palette. Like really good art direction. Okay. Liam, do you know what's not a romance anime? And in fact has no romance in it at all? Stardust Crusaders. No! Hey, how's that opening theme?
Starting point is 00:30:18 There's actually tons of romance in it. The only romance in Stardust Crusaders is Kakyoin like weirdly hitting on Jotaro's mom. Oh, and Dio's knee pads. Dio's knee pads. That's the most love you're gonna get. So fuck my week. I don't care about my week. I didn't do nothing that was as interesting as fucking Stardust Crusaders episode one came out.
Starting point is 00:30:37 Those 22 minutes of your life. Those 22 minutes of my life are so good. They're so good and there is no opening or ending yet. I know. It was so disappointing. The openings for series one and two were amazing. Yeah. Now did you go through the original anime?
Starting point is 00:30:51 I don't remember. I went through the original anime that came out in 88 or 80 last. The last half. But not the first half they put out there. But I have read a couple chapters of the... That's what I watched. I did read a couple chapters of the original before I got like mad with the level of scans. But it might as well be fresh to you.
Starting point is 00:31:08 It's pretty fresh. Okay. Boy are they going for like hyper accuracy. Yeah man. Like more than the other episodes because now they have money. It's very very clear. Yes. That JoJo was successful.
Starting point is 00:31:21 JoJo was successful and for part three they got a lot of money. There is more animation in that first 22 minute episode than there are in the finales of the other two series. I gotta say it's when it nuts how hard JoJo is coming back. It's coming back. The game sold super well in Japan. And it's coming here. It's coming to North America which is unheard of. He's getting super pushed in J-Stars which sells well too.
Starting point is 00:31:41 Because all this stuff is Iraqi approved for the first time. Because it's crazy. JoJo's everything that came before. JoJo's coming back. It's great. Now the other thing too about like probably why there's that much money in the first thing. Capcom should have waited to release it. Absolutely.
Starting point is 00:31:55 Absolutely. Killed. Yeah. No one bought it. Yeah probably. Now well in the time. The series is girthier than ever. The other reason why.
Starting point is 00:32:04 You're right. I'm gonna start saying that. So much money in that is because not only do they have the cash now but it's Stardust Crusaders. Yeah. It's the most important part. It's the most popular JoJo ever. Exactly. And I'm looking at like.
Starting point is 00:32:15 Might not be the best part but it's totally. I'm looking at like the arc of the thing. The big problem I had with the original anime adaptation is they cut out a lot of the super weird shit. They cut out like Oingo Boingo. They cut out Midler. They cut out a bunch of the super weird stand users that don't figure into the plot. They cut out Alessi.
Starting point is 00:32:32 Wow that's super accurate. Super accurate. Yeah the original one. They cut out all the weird stand users of the week stuff because like ahh let's just get the deal. There's stuff that's just like two chapters long and then you have to go through the entire arcana deck. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:32:46 Basically. So every card is a deal. And I'm looking at this. I'm seeing like it's super hyper accurate. They managed to get through a bunch of chapters like right away. It looks like 26 would not be enough. Like I'm hoping it's 39. I'm hoping it's 39 episodes.
Starting point is 00:33:00 Like a season and a half. Because then they can get all of it. They can get every single fucking thing. Because yeah to do like 26 you'd have to be killing off two stand users in one episode. Right. And in part one they skipped like 15, 20 chapters of Jojo and his girlfriend being in love. Because in which nothing happens. And they accomplished what they needed to do with like a 45 second montage of them like
Starting point is 00:33:28 swimming in dumb swimsuits. Yeah. Those swimsuits are awesome. Yeah they were. But they're dumb though. And then she carves it into a tree and then we pick it up. You're done. You're done.
Starting point is 00:33:37 But here it's like if they've like shoved like a lessee or like that evil sword that makes Polnareff go nuts into like. Requiem. Into a montage. Yeah. Like that would suck. Man. Because you're like what is that?
Starting point is 00:33:50 It's like what? Yeah. No not Requiem. Whatever I forgot its name. But whatever. Yeah. Like the fly guy. That was on the plane that's early on.
Starting point is 00:33:59 I don't know. I don't know man. I don't know. But it looks like perfect. Just perfect. It's exactly what I wanted. They're using all the budget. Just the right spots.
Starting point is 00:34:10 Pretty much only when a stand is on screen. Right. Because fuck. The episode breaks are straight up like classic 80s anime. Just like here's a stand. Here's the stand user. Here's an infographic. Of them yeah.
Starting point is 00:34:23 Here's the Pentagon with their strength. Their power levels. Like shit on it. So now all we're waiting for is that song. What's it gonna be? Next week. That's what happened with the other two. It's like the week two you got the opening.
Starting point is 00:34:36 And this week we'll get the opening. A lot of pressure. April 23rd is apparently when the CD is coming out with the full version. Okay. Great. If it incorporates the word Jojo into the lyrics somewhere. I call that a success. Maybe even the word stand.
Starting point is 00:34:53 How daring. I know. Yeah. Bull. I forgot how dumb you wouldn't dare ripple the music. I forgot how stupid the reveal of stand is. I forgot how utterly just dumb the name reveal of stand is. Because it's standing by your side.
Starting point is 00:35:12 It's literally it is called a stand because it stands next to you. It stands by your side. Yeah. That's why we call it the stand. Big dramatic like built up moment. You're like that's fucking dumb Joseph. Okay, but I loved it. I don't care.
Starting point is 00:35:30 I thought it was cool. It's stupid. It's standing next to you. It only works because Joseph is like a really goofy weird old man. Yeah. But it was great. It was fun. And this episode has given us the new I guess I'd call it machine code image macro.
Starting point is 00:35:47 Referring to that Batman comic where he goes I can't read this. Machine code. Then you get a shot of a blank page. Yeah. Which you can photoshop into anything. Yeah. A really amazing shot of Jotaro pulling down a Polaroid very, very slowly before staring at it, which is now being turned into everything.
Starting point is 00:36:03 I think you mentioned also it moves it like a ridiculous break. It's so fast. It's so fast. They have so much ground to cover. Of course. No, of course. For sure. There isn't a dull moment in the entire episode.
Starting point is 00:36:16 Like all 22. Not dull, but like a break. No. Then you still have breaks. Okay. But the breaks are important. I thought you meant literally it's like. Like the original series rungs a break next week too.
Starting point is 00:36:28 Like in episode one you get a break in which like crazy stands shit in jail and they're like okay well let's take a break after the commercial and let's go to Joseph picking up Holly at the airport and it being like this kind of goofy little thing but you still get through it real quick and then back to crazy supernatural jail shit. And shitting on Jotaro's dad. Yeah. Like the irresponsible Japanese man taking my daughter away. Fuck him.
Starting point is 00:36:56 Yeah. I hate Japanese people. It's fucking great. It's fucking so good. Ah. Ah. That's all I have to say. Okay.
Starting point is 00:37:04 Okay. Good work Pat. Ah. For me. I want to stand. God damn it. I know right. Anyway.
Starting point is 00:37:12 You have Ashley. That actually is not a stand. Not with that attitude. That's not how it works. You'll never get a stand with that attitude. Not sure if I'm the only one but I checked out Game of Thrones. Nope. You're rustling me.
Starting point is 00:37:27 Yeah. You're rustling me. I was going to wait for today for Game of Thrones season four. Starting strong. Of course. Starting strong. How many decapitations. Ah.
Starting point is 00:37:38 Two. How many. How many red weddings. Ah. Doesn't apply. Flashback. Okay. You got a flashback of it so you get to see that too.
Starting point is 00:37:49 I know what it is. I feel really blown away that I've made it this far without knowing what red wedding is. Okay. Well. Jesus Christ. I remember during the South Park episodes that were Game of Thrones consoles launching they make a red wedding joke and my girlfriend flips her shit.
Starting point is 00:38:04 She's like, that's not in the show yet. They're making a joke about the book and spoiling all the show people by saying that. No. It's so far like that was a strong intro. It was one of those like, okay, well this is where we last left off. You remember what happened? Remember these guys? Okay.
Starting point is 00:38:21 Now here's where we're going to just drop everyone into- They're all dead. Everyone has arrived at the location they were waiting to go to and you're like, oh, now what? You know? And then like it's not, that's not even spoilers but it's like, oh, how's Danny doing? Yo, look at those dragons. Yeah. Yo, look at those dragons though.
Starting point is 00:38:39 Yeah. Now look at them more. We got money. You know? It was really exciting. Yep. They deserve money. The thing with shows like this is that it's so successful now but like shows like Rome
Starting point is 00:38:51 and other things like stopped because they didn't have enough money anymore. Yes. Yes. So it's really good that like they can continue probably until whatever. Because they've finally got it down. If your show's good enough to rebrand a book series, you're doing good. Yeah, right. A book series has been around since the early 90s.
Starting point is 00:39:06 Yeah. Middle Ages. I've also had a lot of fun watching the intro change over time, the new places building up. Yes. Yes. And the differences here are like pretty strong because honestly, like now it's shit. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:39:23 Because this one starts up and you see Winterfell, you see the wall, then you see new places and like no King's Landing. Oh no. So it's like. Oh no. My King's Landing set. So things are moving along. To be fair, kind of getting sick of King's Landing and I know that's heresy, but I recommend
Starting point is 00:39:39 her on the scene. I recognize the set so much by the end of last year. No, for sure. So like, no, they're there. It's not even there. And like, you've got Arya becoming shut up, shut your fucking mouth. No, I'm not. I only finished the first season.
Starting point is 00:39:57 Just becoming a better director. No, no, no, no, no, no. See, this is why you need to shut your fucking mouth because I haven't watched season two or three. She could have died no season. Exactly. Exactly. Now the tension's gone.
Starting point is 00:40:09 Whenever she's in a fucking death, like her death situation. I didn't know you were that far behind. I stopped after I caught up with the book because you told me that you were waiting for the seasons to end to do it. No, I was waiting for something. But I told you I only finished season one as well. But I'm waiting for it to end. Oh, god.
Starting point is 00:40:25 Dang it. So when we talk about this, you can leave the room every time, like how I left the room for killing. That was very kind of you, but no. Yeah, very kind of you. I didn't have enough warning, man. I thought you at least went to the end of the season and went it all along. I went to the end of the season one.
Starting point is 00:40:38 Yeah. And then you'd not to or through. And then I picked up the second book and couldn't get through it. And so once I managed to get through the second book, then I'll watch the second season. Right. But it hasn't happened. Okay. Well, without name.
Starting point is 00:40:49 It is very important to me to be able to be the guy that tells you that it was different in the book. Okay. Okay. Because I'm an asshole, I guess. Yeah. So we'll look forward to that in another decade. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:41:00 That'll be good. Yeah. Yeah. Episode 300. And beyond that, my brain has just been locked on fucking Dark Souls. Yeah, I noticed. I can't stop thinking about it. You walked in here to do the podcast and you were playing fucking Dark Souls.
Starting point is 00:41:14 When I'm playing it, I'm trying to do things. I'm like, the places have opened up because basically I just killed the Lost Center. I am in Huntsman's corpse now. Cops. Cops. Cops. It's a secondary name for a forest. Okay.
Starting point is 00:41:31 Or a thicket. Okay. And I realized at some point, like, well, I was talking to you and you were like, dude, you know, you can now go back to... Areas that you skipped. Yeah. Because I never went back to Hyde's Tower of Flame or anything. I just went straight forward and hit the wall.
Starting point is 00:41:47 So now I'm back chopped a bit, got some more stuff. My magic guy's doing the magic, my intelligence is high, casting spells, having a good time. Your int is stupid high. It's like, you fucking leveled the int. He leveled his int past the soft cap, like in the early game. Like in the early game. Because I... That's how you have to play.
Starting point is 00:42:08 I want... Why does Agreeleon? The funnest way to play. I want to see you lock on to you and kill you for what you have. It's as good as it's ever going to get now. Yeah. And... Did Playka send you two videos recently?
Starting point is 00:42:21 Oh my god. I did. Let's see those videos. So one that is of Gameplay of Dark Souls and one is of an animation he's making? Yes. Okay. No, I didn't see the Gameplay. I didn't see the Gameplay.
Starting point is 00:42:31 You showed me a video of a straight up predator running around. Yeah. I know. I thought you fight that guy later in the game. How can you be him? You can be him if you kill him in... He's only in New Game Plus and then he's one of the characters that never stops responding and eventually he drops his stuff.
Starting point is 00:42:48 He's a fucking predator. He's got dreds and everything. No, he's literally a predator. It's unbelievable how exactly the predator he's casting. Yeah. Yeah. And while I'm playing and having this fun, I'm already also thinking about alternate specs if I were to play again.
Starting point is 00:43:04 Well... Because there's shit that I'm like, fuck. What if I did this? I want to try that. Well, they got the respect in the game now. Yeah. That's true too. But like some options that are permanently closed.
Starting point is 00:43:12 Oh my god. The fucking respect option is the most troll shit ever. I was hearing that if you don't go to the right place to use the respect, it fucking just takes all your points away. Oh, your points. Yeah. Like you respect to base stats. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:43:25 Oh wow. So you have to use... Yeah, it's initialized. But that's dark souls. It's formatting your character. Jeez. So you've got to take the item to the correct place where you can go back to base stats and then...
Starting point is 00:43:36 And keep your points. Get your old points back. Yeah, okay. So careful using that fucking soul. No, don't be careful. Use it properly. Anywhere. But like...
Starting point is 00:43:44 Shut up, Liam. Like I'm totally enjoying it. That fucking bonfire at the Salt Fort is... It's salty. But... That bonfire is so shit. Oh my god. It's such bullshit.
Starting point is 00:43:55 But anyway, and what I'm really enjoying... And I like the term salt fort. Yes. I like it. It's called the salt fort. It's a fort. It's technically like on Salter's Rise or like... I don't know what you'd call it.
Starting point is 00:44:10 It's fucking salt fort. But like... And I'm also enjoying the fact that I'm like, wow, I can do this for two more games after I beat this one. And supposedly it's only going to get better for me. So no, here's how many times you can do it, okay? You can beat Dark Two with the Champions Covenant that fucks the game up and changes stuff around. Dark Two on New Game Plus, which changes everything around.
Starting point is 00:44:35 Good luck. Dark One and Demons. So you have finishing your game... Anarchy is. Anarchy is. Anarchy is. But finishing your game as one, that's three. You have five games to go through.
Starting point is 00:44:49 Five runs. Quoting quotes. Yeah. And there's the New Game Plus on the other two, which is way harder. No significant change. We've talked about this before, but you're probably like Dark Souls 1 just because it's bosses are way cooler. They're way cooler.
Starting point is 00:45:02 Yeah, they're way cooler. And even Demons has cooler bosses. And then there's also just like doing PvP gameplay. Yeah. Like just sticking it to that. Which you can do for a while. I'm warming up to it. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:45:12 You gotta go back to Demons and get a scraping spear and poison. You're an asshole. No. You're an asshole. Yeah, you described that before? Like that sounds nuts. I will throw myself off a cliff rather than fucking fight a scraping spear and soul. And douchebags.
Starting point is 00:45:25 I actually love when you have to fight the old sage and you get that. Best. I'm also really looking forward to murdering NPCs because I just want to see what it's like to fight them. And some of them are super tough. That miracle fucking girl needs to go. I can't wait to stab. Why would you say that?
Starting point is 00:45:42 Because she's full of shit. Straight up in Demons, there's a guy who's like, hey, you want to kill these NPCs for me? I'll give you stuff for it. I'll give you stuff. And you get their drops too. So yeah, there's one thing about Dark 2 that I'm really, really mad about and it's not quite a spoiler, but it is something that was in the other two games.
Starting point is 00:46:03 There is no NPC that if you do not murder them instantly, they will fuck your game up. There are NPCs in Demons and there's an NPC in Dark Souls where if you do not kill this guy, the instant you see them, they will fuck your game up. Like hard. Like none of those. There are none of those. There was kind of a callback to one of those, but they don't ruin your game.
Starting point is 00:46:30 Which is why they're so good. There's a character in Demons that if you don't murder them right away, they can kill every NPC in the game and leave you unable to level, unable to store your items, unable to buy magic. Oh wow. Yeah, it's the best. Okay. And there's a similar NPC in Dark 1.
Starting point is 00:46:47 There is no bullshit NPC in Dark 2, though they do do something different in which there's been a long running thing of NPC killing and you don't know who's... And they make a choice, they give you a choice at the end of Dark 2 that's like really difficult and I'm convinced I made the wrong decision. Okay. Interesting. But yeah, there's a lot of stuff in Dark 2. They're like, let's tone it down just a little bit because people were getting fucking pissed.
Starting point is 00:47:13 I feel like it's kind of a shame, but like whatever, we had two games of that, so. Like they changed the way that petrification and curse work now to be like a lot easier on people. And petrification's rough. Yeah, in the old game if you got cursed you would be petrified, instantly die, and your health would be halved permanently until you uncursed yourself. So you'd hit the cap with Hallowing. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:47:35 Yeah, basically. Okay. And in the original patch for Dark 1 that could happen like three times, so you could end up with like 10% health. Also after... Oh. Also you say hit the cap with Hallowing. In the old games there was no like 10%, 10%, 10%.
Starting point is 00:47:48 It was 50. Immediately. In demons it was 100% or 50%, and in Dark it was nothing unless you got cursed. Yeah. Oh, wow. Yeah. Fuck, that sounds hard. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:48:00 Oh yeah, totally. Okay, you want the best entries of the series. You want 100% life? Go find somebody and kill another player and take their life. Yeah. That's how you would in demons. Okay, okay. Get your scraping spirit out.
Starting point is 00:48:13 I was gonna say... Fuck you with the scraping spirit. But then I win. You just said it's the best entry because it is in a way that he's playing the third game, but he's gonna play the second and first and be like... In that order. I know what's going on because there's no like continuing story. There is a continuing story between Dark 1 and Dark 2, but you can go either way.
Starting point is 00:48:31 But you know what I mean. You can straight up go Dark 1 and I'm playing Dark 2 and I'm like, that's totally the thing. No. But if you go the other way you will have the same reaction of that's totally the thing. No, but what I mean is that marketing is like we can't call this one five because that's intimidating. I can't jump in at five. I'm not gonna buy it.
Starting point is 00:48:51 You know what actually the reason behind that is because Sony owns the Demon's Souls IP. No, no. I know it's the reason, but it works really well in that favorite subreddit. I'm playing Snake Eater before Sends of Liberty. Yeah, but there's no... It's all... No, I'm saying this is what's happening.
Starting point is 00:49:06 It's not... There's no plot and it's all history and myth. So it's like you hear about a weird thing in Dark 2 and you're like, oh, that sounds cool. And then you go back into Dark 1 and you're like, that's what that was. You can still totally just play it like Mega Man and be like, I just want to kill things and play hard levels. And if you want to be a total morphine then watch Epic Name, Bro, and Voddy's videos.
Starting point is 00:49:27 Good luck with the skull. Fuck you. No one can know the skull. The skull is nothing. Good luck with your butt. Good luck with your butt. Good luck with your butt is a thing in Dark Souls. Good luck with your butt.
Starting point is 00:49:37 Might as well do it. Welcome to Episode 35 of the podcast. 35. I want... Those Dark Souls are rustling my jammies. I don't know. Fuck it. Russell Mania.
Starting point is 00:49:49 Yeah. Sure. I don't know. Fuck it is the title. Irredeemable in Russell Mania. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. There's a Dark Souls, like Undertaker, Undead thing here. No, it's Scott Steiner playing Dark Souls.
Starting point is 00:50:01 Damn it. I can't make it work. What's new in the world, man? Yeah. So, first off, the format, actually. For the podcast, I just want to simplify it a bit and just have general game news and other news. Oh.
Starting point is 00:50:15 Okay, sure. So that's it. Instead of having like fighting game and then like movie slash anime and stuff, we're just going to do general game news and other stuff. Yeah, that makes sense. Yeah. Oh, we should mention, in case you didn't watch the channel and you didn't check the Facebook, that we have to end the mail bag.
Starting point is 00:50:31 Yes. Yeah. There's a say this at the top of the show. There's a big explanation on the YouTube channel explaining in depth. And on Facebook. Yes. And on Facebook. So, we're going to put it here too.
Starting point is 00:50:43 Not like you can go there for further details, but yeah, the mail bag's coming to an end. We're still totally going to be taking letters and fan art. Anything that's small and you can sit in an envelope. Just little envelopes and things like that, totally fine. Long story short, as it grew out of control and we can't handle it. Yeah. The editing. We can't control it.
Starting point is 00:51:00 The editing and the size of the packages, we just had to, we have no room anymore. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Everything was just nuts, but we want to thank you. You never. But again, thanks everyone. We can't believe how much.
Starting point is 00:51:10 Of course. Yeah. I love you guys. Yeah. Just putting it out there for this. Now let's get to some dumb shit. Well, right off the bat. Oh my God.
Starting point is 00:51:18 Oh my God. WebM format? WebM. WebM. WebM. WebM is going to change the world. It is the best thing ever. It is amazing.
Starting point is 00:51:26 I mentioned an animated GIF earlier and that's going to be one of the last ones ever made. Yes. Did you talk about this a couple of podcasts ago? You mentioned it. I immediately said is there a WebM? No. I know. We did talk about something about GIFs.
Starting point is 00:51:39 Yeah. Changing and changing the world or something. Yeah. Well, we were talking about storage. Yeah. I don't know. Something way before that. Okay.
Starting point is 00:51:47 Well, no. This is WebM and it's life changing. It's starting yesterday. If you post a GIF, you're a chode. Exactly. Fuck you with your GIFs. Stop posting GIFs, chodes. They're done.
Starting point is 00:51:55 It's over. There's going to be no argument over this pronunciation. Yeah. WebM. Right? And so you're totally right. WebM. People have already been writing that.
Starting point is 00:52:04 What? With a U in there. Fuck. So what we have here is a brand new image format that can play sound. It's basically a video format. And it plays video at any resolution. It's a low-resource intensive embedded video player that acts like a GIF, but it can loop or stop.
Starting point is 00:52:27 It can add sound. You can pause it. Pause and play. So the quality is full screen, 1080p, if you want. 1080p? I saw 1440p. I saw fucking 4K videos. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:52:38 60 frames per second. I just want to note, you know GIFs can go that high. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. No, just because earlier you said they can go HD. But they'll choke whatever you're looking at.
Starting point is 00:52:47 Yeah. They're unmanageable. I've only ever seen like two or three like 1080p. Yeah. And I had to download them. I couldn't just browse past those. Nice one, Gaff. No.
Starting point is 00:52:55 And so that's the thing. Yeah. So Liam, you were going through that Gaff thread. And you mentioned it. The night before I went through every 4chan thread on every board. Okay. Because that's the thing is I saw a thread on V where they were just posting 60 frames per second Max Payne 2 GIFs and some beautiful, beautiful shit and you're just like, I don't
Starting point is 00:53:14 understand. How is this so smooth in here? Compression so quickly. Yeah. So the one that killed me was the GIF on A of Garden of Words. And I looked at that and I'm like, you can still make backgrounds out of all these frames. Nice. And I'm just like, you know, everything S rank, JetStream Sam vs. Armstrong fight beginning
Starting point is 00:53:30 to end. And I'm just like, wow, this quality is, yo, look at this guy's moves and I'm just watching the whole fight right there. I'm not distracted by the fact that it's a GIF. And the fact that you can throw in sound, it's like this can replace everything. This can be internet format embed. Eventually. Well, I'm not, of course, it's not there yet.
Starting point is 00:53:48 Well, it's established that it's not good. It's not well optimized for CPUs, so it's really CPU intended. It kills you. It kills you. It's not optimal for downloading video in that format for whatever technical reason. Don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, yes, it's still early. A page with a bunch of them embedded one after the other, unless you have a really fucking
Starting point is 00:54:09 good computer. Yeah. I can't wait for, I can't wait for Facebook somehow owning this. And then limiting it to Facebook. Oh, yeah. You know what? I think it's too open to even have that open. No, that's what I said.
Starting point is 00:54:22 But I get what you mean. Somehow. That's, that's when we got to get our bootleg webms. Yeah. But it seems like it just, it just happened last month, right? And it's like, the only thing we're missing, because it's the best format for games, 60 frames per second. Absolutely.
Starting point is 00:54:38 That's, that's, that's what you need for game footage. Yeah. The only thing we're missing is just something to easily make them. Right? Yeah. Like. Yeah. That's what I said earlier, like a really practical, simple program.
Starting point is 00:54:48 We're not all Sony legend. Yeah. Yeah. So we've got to use command lines. You know what I mean? The people are just basically, man, someone made a little browser based one that I think converts gifts, but it's not perfect or anything. Right.
Starting point is 00:54:59 I didn't fiddle with it too much. I only made one or two. But like, to make the good ones, you got to get in there. And like, as soon as someone makes a sick program, gifts are dead. Which I assume is being done right now. I'm sure this will bring in a new era of pornography blogs. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:55:14 You haven't been there yet? No. Like, like, you know all the fans that have shown me like many Hitomi gifts, but you need to step up your game now. Yeah. If it's not a Hitomi WebM, we're done. Can you imagine, like, a thread where it's just a link to like 26 images and each one is an episode of a show?
Starting point is 00:55:30 Yes. And you're just like, here's the Samurai Champloo WebM thread. But that would be... Just mouse over and watch an episode. But that would be just as big as the file itself. I'm sure at that point it gets nuts. Yeah. And it would kill your CPU if you had an average computer at that point.
Starting point is 00:55:43 But like, the compression of... As a point... It would actually be at a disadvantage to streaming. It's up right now. It is extremely useful as a GIF replacement. It is not there yet for the applications you are talking about. And I don't think it's going to be there for a long time. I don't know how much sound adds to the size.
Starting point is 00:56:01 A lot. A lot. Okay. Um, but I was watching, like I said, there was that JetStream Cham fight that was like maybe what, two, three minutes? Yeah. And you're like, yeah, that can be a trailer for a game. I bet you if you don't have a good connection, this shit sucks.
Starting point is 00:56:17 Yeah. Do you know why it's good that this is all coming out now rather than like, say... Cause E3's in like... Cause E3! That's going to be the best fight I've ever had. And the OKF5 threats will be legend there. I hope so. The other...
Starting point is 00:56:29 The biggest bummer for me was I was in bed on my iPhone and it's like WebM thread and I'm like, yeah. No, iPhone. No, not on iPhone. So I had to get up out of my cozy bed and go to my computer just to look at stupid animated pictures. But you know what? Fuckin' what?
Starting point is 00:56:42 Then you went to the thread and it worked. And it was great. If you have Chrome, you just click in and it works. There's no extension zone. It works great. It's great. It's right now. It's already supported.
Starting point is 00:56:50 I tried on IE at work and it auto-downloaded it. You have to watch it in a video player on Internet. I'm sure there's an extension. Someone's already made for that. Yeah, I got a Chrome extension and for all sorts of things. Yeah, but that means that like this shit was planned. It was already there. We just haven't caught on to it.
Starting point is 00:57:04 Yeah. All the browser people were like, oh, there's some hype shit. I looked it up. I fucking coded it. Like I looked it up earlier and it's been in the works for a while. So yeah. HTML5 and WebM together are going to be the shit. It seems like a file format that's been around for like years, but the man just lost control
Starting point is 00:57:20 of it and now it's just coming out, you know? Or gamers found out about it and started copying their footage over. Now that PC thread on Gaff can make you sad or even harder and fucking look what I can do. Your PC has to run this page in order to actually get in. The first post on every page is like the most intensive shit ever. I've seen 4K WebMs. Oh geez, OTs, like official topics for games on Gaff.
Starting point is 00:57:47 Those have fucking changed. Can't wait. Message board technology continues to advance. Yeah. Like, but there's still an application for GIFs there where GIFs are light because if you, if we get to the point where you can embed WebMs anytime soon, like they're not ready. Yeah. So like.
Starting point is 00:58:03 We can't cure the common cold, but we can look at game footage real good. Exactly. Faster. You know, and you know, who's still embedding giant GIFs like Chodes, me, Kotaku. He bombs rolled. Oh. So this week's segment, try not to facepalm. Oh, this one was bad.
Starting point is 00:58:17 It's brought to you by Kotaku. Kotaku. I was freaking out at work. Isn't it? Aren't they the sponsors of this segment? Yeah. Yes. So this.
Starting point is 00:58:26 The interesting thing about this is that I, there's several things in my head and I'm not sure which one you're going to send out. Yeah. I have one in my head too. It's the bad one. I clicked this today and my jaw hit the floor. Is this new? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:58:37 I don't know if it was today or yesterday, but I know it's new. You should just click it. Just tell them the title like you did with me and then show them what it is. The title is called, the title of the article is called wrist slitting. Yeah. I saw this. Slammarized. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:58:51 Kill a kill. Yeah. Oh. Yeah. Dude. So all you have here is the little picture of Ryuko doing her transformation. Or she pulls a pin out of a wristband. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:59:05 And then it does the prick so that's a tiny drop of blood. Yeah. A small needle goes in her wrist. And Richard Eisenbeis had decided to write his article about how glorification of suicidal gestures is not what we need today. And specifically goes out of his way to say this is not the first time Japan's done weird shit with suicidal emotions. Look at persona.
Starting point is 00:59:25 Remember persona three where the kids shot themselves in the head? Cue the giant ass bold update at the bottom that says. So embarrassing. It is revealed that in the third episode the dagger like key she slides back and forth is not actually slitting her wrist it just looks like it does from an outside perspective. She does it for style reasons basically. It causes a needle to drop and puncture her wrist and the rest is for style. Like why doesn't he have an article about Harakiri Sunshine?
Starting point is 00:59:50 Like how old is this article? Like when did this come? When did this get published? Today. Today. It was published today. No. No.
Starting point is 01:00:00 No. No. I can't work it back. I can't find it right now. Anyway. Yeah. It's at the top. Whatever.
Starting point is 01:00:08 It happened during Kill A Kill's run. It's like for fuck's sake. I think it happened. You watched the two. You didn't do more than two episodes of fucking research. Yeah. And then everyone yelled at you and then you're like oh wait my pants are down and my tiny dick is showing.
Starting point is 01:00:20 What? You know what I like Kotaku is a site that is so like you know has guys that created things that are so ignorant sometimes like Japanese culture and blood lines. I would say it has nothing to do with ignorance. It has to do with the fact that Kotaku has discovered that manufactured outrage generates page clicks. Because they are incredibly good as of late. Guess what?
Starting point is 01:00:45 You just clicked on the fucking link in this podcast just now. Yeah. You're totally right. You're totally right. You gotta get a paste bin set up. It's gross. It's really gross. The equivalent of like going out on the street and being like pay me $10 to see me naked
Starting point is 01:01:00 behind this curtain and everyone's like no and then you put next to it you put down a sign. It's like pay me $10 to see me naked. Also I have disgusting shit all over my body. Look at it. Yeah. Google I gotta see this shit. Are there any other examples other than Kill or Kill?
Starting point is 01:01:15 It's Glav. You mentioned Persona 3. Yeah. Persona 3. Because if you're going to say like oh this should not be glamorized. Look there was that character in Killer 7 whose special attack was slitting her wrist and they would spray on balls to reveal secrets. There's a million references.
Starting point is 01:01:30 She's just used a really good example. In this very season of anime, Samurai Flamenco, there's a guy called Herakiri Sunshine. Where he slices his movie. He slices his movie. He slices his stuff. But guys that shit's not popular. What's popular? Kill or Kill.
Starting point is 01:01:44 I know. I know. It's popular Persona. This Eisenberg guy. You remember a review on an anime called Sakuratric the other day which I watched the whole thing. It's good for what it is. But he called it like one of the best anime this season. And I'm like this is like Yuri pandering.
Starting point is 01:02:00 A Kotaku. This is Yuri pandering for guys. It's not empowering girls. A Kotaku review is why I ended up watching Sword Art Online. Hey. Hey. But for up to the minute news a week after it happens there's always Kotaku. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:02:14 That's perfect. That's the outrage about Captain Sawada. Suicide strike. That would actually help. That could get eyeballs on Sawada and get him into a game. He'll be in Tekken Cross Street Fighter. Oh my god. He will.
Starting point is 01:02:28 He'll be in the ball. Dude I don't mean to slam your docket gathering abilities for news for this podcast. But like Kotaku being shit. Is that even news? No. We always have the section. Remember? Oh.
Starting point is 01:02:41 The worst headline. Oh yes. I couldn't do it. I failed immediately. Yeah. The other bit that was interesting was like. I'm doing it. I did it.
Starting point is 01:02:49 You did it. You failed. You failed. Captain Office did it after we were yelling about it. Yeah. And on the Reddit someone that also posted this was saying like I was always wondering why you guys hated Kotaku. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:03:02 That's where I saw it. Now I get it. Now I get it. And they do this often. Like it's bad. The problem is that when you say like I don't like Kotaku or a site that runs like that. It's like one of the persons like well check out that site. But then there just happens to be nothing really bad on that site or that day.
Starting point is 01:03:16 So yeah. You got to call them as you see them. No. Lados invading the Olympics guys. It's got us. Look at this TV monitor. Doesn't it look like Lados? Oh.
Starting point is 01:03:25 Oh. Olympics means it's slow news for video games. Check out this cosplay gallery. Oh. Which they've now removed. Have they? Yeah. Totally.
Starting point is 01:03:34 Yeah. They were called out on the incredible in not in common is hypocrisy of having article after article about female objectification directly over the look at these sexy ladies in cosplay. Marshall and Lily. Yeah. And they decided that you know. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:03:51 Oh. We're shits. Well when you pray to the patron saint of Klicks then it doesn't matter what your fucking moral stance is on that shit. Moving along because enough about fucking slow bro. Does it not matter? Because I think it mattering is the whole crux of getting Klicks. Anyway.
Starting point is 01:04:08 Moving on. Amazon Fire TV is now a thing. Yeah. The Amazon box that we've been wondering what is Double Helix been up to. It's a 99 dollar console. Micro console. Yeah. And pretty much the best one.
Starting point is 01:04:21 It looks easily the best one. Good luck Mojo. So primarily. Yeah. Suck it Mojo. Primarily aimed at TV people. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:04:32 It's got all the Android box right? Yeah. Android box. It's got the Netflix. And all I could think of was like wow, ooh you got fucked. Like how can they possibly compete with Amazon? I totally have a thing to say because I haven't. Let hear me.
Starting point is 01:04:46 Let's hear you. I haven't and I liked it right. So I was kind of looking forward to this thing because I'm like that range of games where like once upon a time we used to play flash games on Newgrounds. Now they've kind of upgraded to like shitty indie games like like bad indie games that you wouldn't you know like you think indie games and you think braid but no that's wrong. You're not in the right ballpark. Unless now it's published by Microsoft.
Starting point is 01:05:07 No exactly but like there is a class of indie games below that you don't see even further below. You used to see them on Newgrounds and now they you know ranked up to here and on the Uia I've enjoyed playing. So I've played games. Yeah that kind of thing. On the Uia I've enjoyed playing a good number of them but boy if the Uia 2 isn't amazing it's going to get ass kicked by this thing because the first party showing here looks
Starting point is 01:05:29 pretty solid. It's solid. Well it's not all artistically nuts. There's that one origami one that looks neat. There's the guy with the beam shot the dinosaur. You and I talked about this. I felt all those games well none of them looking abjectly terrible. They look like video games that you put in the background of a movie.
Starting point is 01:05:45 You're totally right. Like Oliver and Spike was in there and that's probably going to be good. The origami one was kind of cool. I said you I'll look at these games more carefully when I see what Double Helix's project is and then for a second I go oh god what if one of these games I looked at was their project. I'd be so disappointed. I doubt it because like they just ship to you. And the box is totally capable of taking like some indie game style ports like there's stuff
Starting point is 01:06:12 coming to it. There's a lot of stuff already there and $99 is a good price for it. $99 is a fucking great price. And also they pulled off one of those things that I really like when announcements do this. Yo so when does it come out? Now. Do you want to buy it? We have a really good website where you can buy things.
Starting point is 01:06:31 We even made this R8 game that comes out now. The helicopter drone is floating above your door. Like it's always good. Do you want us to drop? YN. Yeah. Like remember there was that 1E3 where Microsoft was like yeah we're coming out with a really actually Xbox that works.
Starting point is 01:06:47 It's the slim. It's really good. Wins it out now. Look under your seats. Yeah. It's the best thing ever. Shame about the Saturn. Just one other observation about it because of course the Wii has been selling really
Starting point is 01:06:58 well on Amazon. I don't know if you've noticed it. Not anymore. No, no, no. It is still high on the charts. Yeah, you're right. Because like that's a weird situation. No, but bear with me.
Starting point is 01:07:07 What I'm saying here is obviously they looked at that and they read that hey there's a market for this. Because they know it. They have the hard data and they're shipping them. One of the interesting things that I saw because I looked at the marketplace for the Fire TV is they totally head hunted a lot of the most popular Wii games and a lot of the best ones. Like Bomb Squad and Karkin's.
Starting point is 01:07:25 Totally non-shocking. Totally head hunted them and they called them up and they said hey can you have your game out on our machine day out. I also grabbed Minecraft and like Walking Dead and a bunch of other things. Didn't they also hire like Kim Swift as well? Yes. Immediately after Kim Swift and Clint Lockett. Yeah, and he's the director of Far Cry 2.
Starting point is 01:07:44 And Splinter Cell and Caster. But it's weird because they announced that they had acquired people and not like companies. Because those people announcements are for the core gamers who are like oh I know those. Because otherwise you don't announce names because nobody knows them. Same with movies. That's names only the actors people know. Or some directors. Or really good directors.
Starting point is 01:08:05 Exactly, but the core is generally what the names are for. We saw the controller already. It looks alright. Thank God it supports like other controllers. Yeah. I saw Jeff Gershman was on Twitter saying what was it? Is Amazon serious about consoles or not after holding this controller? Okay.
Starting point is 01:08:25 But that's the thing. It's 99 bucks with no controller. The $40 controller they have is like an optional thing. Which means if I can plug my 360 pad or your history pad. Is there any actual like does anything work or is there any actual specification? I don't know. To be honest I haven't looked into it as much as I wanted to because it's not out in Canada. If it were out in Canada I would have one.
Starting point is 01:08:44 Yeah I probably have gotten one also. I'm going to go ahead and assume it's like whatever would work with Inuitia for example. Maybe. Maybe. I hope so. But as soon as it comes out here I'll pick one up because just seeing that sizzle reel is like yeah they're dedicated and seeing the games that are already on it. It's like these are the games I would play on the Inuitia anyway that I enjoy and they're
Starting point is 01:09:02 fun because I like fun. They're pushing SEVZ0. Hey but consoles are bad guys, it's all on phones. Also like I'd super like to play the DX games but I never had a chance to play it. The fall. The fall. I'm not going to play it on my PC. But like you say phone games but Android is a totally valid platform.
Starting point is 01:09:18 Yeah I know. As long as I get to touch screen is in your computer. No I'm just like pissed off over like the past two years. Every fucking form you went to was like no consoles are dead man. They're fucking dead. It's all phones. It's all over. It's all over.
Starting point is 01:09:30 It's like every company is going out with a console or a micro console now. Yeah. Like every sales are fucked. Mojo, Steam Boxes. It's all in July. It's all in July. Well yeah it's in Japan. Something that's kind of like a bad and a good thing is that like you know you guys might
Starting point is 01:09:43 have heard but I want to see the new Godzilla movie. There's a new Godzilla movie. There's a Godzilla game coming out it's for phones and like I'm like I kind of want licensed games with a console. That's always had the crossover with the Pacific Rim. The second game that we never got to play. It's on phones. Okay.
Starting point is 01:10:02 Infinity Blade. Oh really? Yeah you were saying with the yeah it's cool actually and they totally fucked up Crimson Typhoon because they only gave him two arms. That is bullshit. I know. And a half. I know.
Starting point is 01:10:13 It's literally bullshit and a half. Fuck. You were saying like the Mojo's in the Steam Boxes and it's like yeah everyone's coming out but I think a lot of them are going to like fuck. Oh yeah. Yes. I think the Mojo is going to either eat dirt the hardest or be the most successful. Because it's either going to have the best games or be completely outclassed by everything.
Starting point is 01:10:31 See I don't even think that even matters. No exactly. Like those factors like yeah but I don't think it even matters. Because the thing is that Fire TV like regardless of whether or not it does anything as far as games go it's going to be fine as a television box for people right? And that's the main thing is their platform they picked we're going to sell to people a bunch of digital shit because no one watches proper TV anymore. All the cable cutters don't want tons of apps can watch it like this.
Starting point is 01:10:56 So here's what I say Sony now would be a good time to come out with a Vita TV. Where's the Vita TV at? It's coming in winter. I hope so. If it's not announced at E3 though it's not coming out. Yeah that's right. I don't agree with that. I want to play fucking Vita games on my TV.
Starting point is 01:11:10 Also they should probably I don't know what current like TV apps it has but I would assume like… Crunchyroll, Hulu. Hulu all the same. All the same as PS3 right? All the same yeah. Oh PS3 it's almost an exact overlap. I think WWE Network is the only thing really that's on the note that isn't across.
Starting point is 01:11:28 Because basically like I said aiming for that audience is how you ensure the success here and the games are secondary but they're there. Also I will say in regards to the Vita TV and the Fire TV like there's a substantial number of first party developers there. Fire TV they've got over 200 something employees just for games for that box. Like that's… That's good. I can't deny that.
Starting point is 01:11:53 And 80 of those employees are WX. 99 bucks is an easy buy for like a couple of exclusive games. Exactly. And at that point you're not even buying this shit. You're like I bought like four really good games across the lifetime of a hundred dollar box. I mean that's totally fucking… That's like a special edition of some major games.
Starting point is 01:12:09 Exactly. Yeah well that's it. Like if Double Heelist are the only people that make good games and everything else is like you'll have like like you said maybe four you know or so. Yeah again though like Oliver and Spike's on there so that's a good game. I'll buy that. And immediately on the heels not to be outdone there's the rumors coming from going around that Google is planning an Android TV thing.
Starting point is 01:12:33 Yeah shocking. After Chromecast it's such a hit for them. Well think about Chromecast it's 35 bucks right? Although it doesn't fucking do anything so just stream shit. Yeah. But it's 35 bucks. No exactly. I'm not saying the price being amazing but like their Android box won't be 35 bucks.
Starting point is 01:12:51 No it won't but like they're like we have some wiggle room on that price you know but before we can like whatever compete and shit like that. Definitely Google's is going to be the direct competitor to the Fire TV maybe Uya more than the Mojo like. Yeah it's the giants of industry. Well they're going to do the TV thing. Yeah. Yeah exactly.
Starting point is 01:13:12 And they have the ability to say I'm willing to lose 10 billion dollars on this this year. Yeah. We make the money later. Exactly. Like Uya can't do that. No. You said 10 billion dollars to the Uya guys that all die of heart attacks. And Amazon are fucking going to kill it because they get 100% of the profile.
Starting point is 01:13:28 Because they ship it. Yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah exactly. And their first party game is 100% of the profit. Yeah. But like what if Google takes their Chrome crafts and adds 65 dollars more value to that. Yeah. What can they do with that. Well I mean all I would say is if they don't get 280 developers there then I'll still look
Starting point is 01:13:48 at Amazon and be like they got a better games team like. So Google buys Amazon. Prove me wrong you know show me the games and I'll be like okay Google Fire TV. The Google Fire TV. Yeah. The Google Firecast. Hey man Google video still exists. Shut up.
Starting point is 01:14:04 It does. Shut up though. You can actually go find it. Wow I actually forgot that exactly. Let's not remember like because remember that it was a situation which Google said YouTube's pretty cool. Let's rip it off. Let's make YouTube.
Starting point is 01:14:17 Yeah. Oh shit let's just buy it. Yeah. Right. So like the scenario I described with Google straight up just buying Amazon like it's not outside the realm of possibilities. Amazon's bigger though like is it. Then Google.
Starting point is 01:14:31 Amazon's pretty big. But Google is. In terms of dollar bucks. No. You're crazy. Aren't they. Google is super massive. Let's find out really quickly.
Starting point is 01:14:40 Yeah. Find out really quickly. Fact checking we'll ruin this podcast. Yeah. Amazon makes like a bazillion, bazillion dollars a day. Are they extremely low margin though. Yeah. Couldn't say man.
Starting point is 01:14:48 I thought they I thought they were doing okay because I couldn't say. Like extremely confident investors because the value of the stock keeps rising. Not because of the profit. No. I honestly couldn't say. Google's bigger. Yeah. Google's bigger.
Starting point is 01:15:03 So Amazon closed at 317.76 and Google closed at 538.50. So that's not scientific. No. Depending on stock splits and shit. But what's their value. Not their stock value. Yeah. It's like we're not accountants.
Starting point is 01:15:17 We can't figure this out. Someone will nail us and tell us. You can't figure it out backwards from a stock value. Yeah. Someone will tell us that one of them is five times the size of the other and we'll let them. Yeah. Google's probably a lot bigger.
Starting point is 01:15:28 So let's move on to the next thing. You can't just go on per shares. No. It doesn't. Because if they do a three way stock split then the numbers get all weird. Okay. Okay. There's no time.
Starting point is 01:15:40 You're not a banker. I'm not a banker. No. Not at all. You're wondering Wikipedia has these numbers. We're idiots. We'll talk about video games and stuff. So what is next on the video.
Starting point is 01:15:48 You're armchair stockbrokers. No. No. Bye bye bye. Sell sell sell. No. No. That's nothing.
Starting point is 01:15:56 I'm Ready. You have to get the call attacks. The one here about video games and lollipops. Fine. I need a bigger lolly. I need a bigger lolly. Alright. Well, we'll move on well.
Starting point is 01:16:05 Speaking of resurrections, uh. Final fight might live again? Shut up. Yeah. Might might but let's face it man we've heard this before we've heard this before. We've heard this before both cap come about every franchise literally every like after street wise I remember at least two instances of final fight might be entertained as a rumor. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:16:29 When me, Pat and I went to E3 and I asked Sven off the record like is that how did final fight double impact do? He's like it did well for a download like you know for how much we we uh we uh spent to make it and um uh Dungeons and Dragons Shadows and Mistar apparently didn't do well. Now you're saying this off the record also. Say this off the record not that it matters he doesn't work for the company more. He'll find you. You know I'm not sure if you will.
Starting point is 01:16:53 He's right behind you. He'll find you and then you just be like I spent Swiborx. Yeah. Oh. My only weakness. It's it's it's still exciting to hear that that uh Capcom like you know entertains like their old franchises and beat them up some like Sega which constantly buries them. Make sure everyone forgets them.
Starting point is 01:17:12 Or turns it into creepy porn. Yeah. They make so much new stuff. Yeah. Sometimes they bring them back in racing games like rhythm thief. What? Yeah. It's a new game.
Starting point is 01:17:23 Like Hero Bank. That's a new game. What are these things? Like fucking PSO keeps going. Project Eva's new franchise Yakuza is still going like no it's not. Yeah. I can't play it. Anyway.
Starting point is 01:17:35 Good job Capcom. There's no Streets of Rage car and Sega all star racing. No but I mean like they make there should be they make new stuff. That'd be a fun car with like all three of them in it and like you could do why do you ruin my life. Yeah. What's up? You cool?
Starting point is 01:17:50 Um. They could have a little mortar like cannon thing like the cop car. Yeah. I would imagine it would just be the cop car. Yeah. I wait with bated breath to see them fuck it up. I've been hoping for a new final fight for years. Final fight now coming back.
Starting point is 01:18:03 Yeah. I know what happens. I want it to happen. To your web browser. Your Japanese web browser. Your Japanese web browser. Oh wait. Sorry.
Starting point is 01:18:11 It'll be a final fight patch of slot game. Yeah. There's a comment. There was a comment. Somebody tweeted me. It's like patch of slot fatal fury and fucking WrestleMania. I can't wait for this podcast. Oh my god.
Starting point is 01:18:26 So we gotta do it for that guy. Okay. Okay. For anyone out there who says indie games are the worst, AAA games are the worst, shooters are the worst, DLC is the worst, X is the worst, you're wrong every time. Gambling is the worst. Gambling is the worst. Because they're not even games.
Starting point is 01:18:41 They're not even games. They're literally made to take your money. It would be fine if it was fighting patch of slot maximum. If there was a video game there. No. But I'll be fine with some generic thing. Oh okay yeah. But the old franchises that haven't had entries in years.
Starting point is 01:18:55 So I'm going to show that. And paint it on a patch of slot. Oh shit. It's like it fucking drives the bullet. Because it's they pick it up and they're like what's this good for? Nothing. Put it on the patch of slot. How much money do we have?
Starting point is 01:19:06 How much do we need? This is on the docket as god damn an SNK. Because you watch this trailer and in my heart I have always thought of this ultimate Mark of the Wolves 2 style visual cool thing. Where you see Terry the older wolf dude. And this trailer does it. Being the cool guy. And you see the legacy.
Starting point is 01:19:23 Well he is literally tearing up here. Like just a nice awesome cutscene version of that flash flash flash intro from Mark of the Wolves. And you see this here and they put the money in to actually make 3D models of mine. There's a cheesy but cool like Japanese song going on. Yeah. From the makers of King of Fighters Skystage and the King of Fighters MOBA. And your Skystage is fine. You can watch me do this together.
Starting point is 01:19:48 Yeah you're right. It's a downward spiral. And then fucking patchy slot. And I'm never going to listen to you again whenever you send these links. From the makers of Samurai Showdown patchy slot. Because you can tell when you go to the YouTube link and it's like SNK play more slot. Yeah exactly. When I saw that link and I was watching the movie I was like I'm ignoring that slot for
Starting point is 01:20:09 now. Because I'm still not sure. Whenever you see SNK or Capcom announce a game and you see the topic on Newgap and you put it on it. Before you care look for the spoiler tag. Because that's where it is. There's something about the song too. I don't remember it was.
Starting point is 01:20:24 But there's a lyric towards the end that was something like bring it back to life or something like that. Something that kissed you in the balls even harder. Twist the knife. Twist the poison knife. Meanwhile at SNK they're all super angry and they're like we had to do this but if this succeeds we'll make a new Goro. No.
Starting point is 01:20:42 And you don't know this but they're all actually like never so close to Goro too. Liam? That is fantasy. Pat I'm making a joke. Guess what? You can't tell. It hurts too much. It hurts too much for me to tell.
Starting point is 01:20:55 But just the idea that like imagine SNK also fell. I had like a completely new outfit. Yeah. That is part of your fantasy idea that I do actually expect Israel. That there's a couple people at SNK that just go fuck this company. God damn it. God damn it. Yep.
Starting point is 01:21:13 I gotta eat. They're literally not even making Doki Doki Majo Shimpan anymore. Oh wow. They're literally which is better than slot machines. Yeah I know. I know. It just, I fucking, the fact that those models are gonna sit there and the company of whatever 3D Render Studio did that and just go to nothing.
Starting point is 01:21:32 Yeah. It'll be on their demo reel and then they'll just move on. Capcom will see them and say and ask them again if they wanna do CVS3 and then SNK will be like no. No. For no reason. You know those fucking artists and modelers will move on to like Hamazaki. Remember because of that no is what's on Cross Tech.
Starting point is 01:21:51 Yeah. They're working on the next SMAT video. So because SNK just turned down CVS3 for no reason we got Cross Tech instead. That was literally why it's spawned like that. But there's more than that though. It's also because all the people that were friendly together at the time when CVS happened were gone. You know.
Starting point is 01:22:13 So they didn't know anyone at the time. But it would have been straight up like hey we'll give you money, give us the characters, you'll get a fighting game with your fucking name on it. I don't know Japanese crossovers happen when you work in the same building and you go take the elevator together. And you drink too much on Tuesdays. Developers worth a damn like fuck. Well you know Platinum and Kojima of Square and Disney.
Starting point is 01:22:36 Like anyone worth a damn like this is just fucking being unprofessional. They just like you're operating a company. It's like right on feelings. There's two groups of friends and they were all a mixture of juniors and seniors and then seniors left and they don't know anyone in common anymore. So they're sitting nervously on the opposite ends of the case. They need the funds to bring them together. They should just be able to talk together.
Starting point is 01:22:58 Yeah but. But Liam talking to people is hard. Yeah it's hard though. But it should be. Be a fucking professional. No it's hard though. What if they don't like me? Well tough.
Starting point is 01:23:07 Suck it the fuck up and if they don't like you it doesn't matter. You're talking to the wrong country. Talking to the wrong country. It doesn't matter. But Japan you know that they're not like me. You gotta get that. You gotta get that. I look at Inafune who leaves everything and he's just building Megaman back up from Scrabandman.
Starting point is 01:23:24 And I look at Igorashi and Igorash. He's like I got to live my dreams sometime. That April fucks Megaman. Shit was egregious. Well that was that disgusting. Hold that thought. Because the thing is that those franchises right. You can take Megaman and go that's the daddy of Megaman.
Starting point is 01:23:44 Castlevania has a father. Fatal Fury has a father but he doesn't really. He's not the guy that holds it and locks it. But all I'm saying is the company should be like reasonable enough to be like we work together. Instead of just being like no Baz can't be a dive kick. No. No. We can't be a dive kick.
Starting point is 01:24:04 No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No.
Starting point is 01:24:12 No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No.
Starting point is 01:24:20 No. Maybe you put them on on like, millions upon millions of people. English people. Because it's a joke on the Gundam Kits where they have the versioned beaten Kylefert had just make out okay yeah, who does redesigns of Gundam's put extra lines on them and makes the move more practical. So… So what?
Starting point is 01:24:36 What happens is they post on it was on Katau community, right? Yeah. They post it. Japanese awesome arts. Sp괜 Disney dep one adults can read. And it's not even a model. I mean, and the Japanese blog post, I actually really resent the guy who posted on NeoGaF who like really set it up as like New Mega Man X joke.
Starting point is 01:24:54 But it's the same thing as the Patches Lot's. Because on the Japanese blog post, like the price is like 9 billion Zenny. Right. Like it's a joke from beginning to end whereas when the NeoGaF guy did it he was like you're right. But at the same time the fact that they keep doing this. Yes. Over with Mega Man.
Starting point is 01:25:14 But like I have. Just wait for the new Mega Man game. I do have to say. No. Stop it. The thing is Mega Man game. It was really awful that it can't. I don't believe you.
Starting point is 01:25:23 I believe you. It was awful that it went down that way and then they had to back down from the April Fool's joke. They cancelled the joke. No. Totally back down. This is another Japanese thing that totally got lost as well. Japanese companies like for April Fool's joke they take them down on April 2nd.
Starting point is 01:25:37 Almost universally. They take them down on April 2nd. This is normal. But what I wanted to get across with that whole version can thing is that when we see it not getting that important part of the joke the reaction becomes what you guys are saying here. When Japanese people see it they instantly see that it's a joke. Because they know what the version coughing is.
Starting point is 01:25:57 So here's the thing though. Even if it's in a joke I think it's gross because like this is all you're going to do with Mega Man. You're going to make dumb jokes with Mega Man. They're making a game man. What proof do you have of what you just said? It takes years to make a game. What?
Starting point is 01:26:11 No, no answer my question. You should have a gut feeling. I don't have proof. But the amount of outpouring of we want Mega Man and Capcom saying we understand. So much so that they cancelled the Mega Man game. When? Two of them. When?
Starting point is 01:26:24 The X remake that made by the Metroid Prime guys and Mega Man Universe and Mega Man Legends 3. All three of them. Years ago. Then if they cancelled those years ago and they understood the fan. You're being an idiot here actually. And I am? They cancelled them.
Starting point is 01:26:39 And then about a year later they said okay we get it. You guys want Mega Man. Okay. As a year ago. Yeah. You can't fucking flip out a Mega Man game in a year. Not a good one. The thing that this joke has proven ultimately is that the mere mention of Mega Man's name
Starting point is 01:26:54 gets everyone salty. So anytime you say his name and it's not the announcement of a new game. It's bad. It's just going to be fine. Only in your right there was a Mega Man game. It was Mega Man crossover for the mobile. The mobile. I'm not even counting that.
Starting point is 01:27:10 I'm not counting that. You shouldn't. Mega Man Cross Street Fighter. Exactly. Oh. I'm not even sure I'm counting that. Not me but no. That's it.
Starting point is 01:27:18 I have total faith they're making one because they said hey we know you guys want one. That's the difference in that I have no faith in them because they cancelled those games in the first place. Yeah. Sure. But each of them individually had problems. I'm sure they now know we can't even say his name unless it's the announcement. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:27:39 This is a video game vlog. Never bring him up ever again. The worst bit is of course this wasn't posted on the American blog because they knew that would happen. Yes. They posted it on the Japanese one because they were like. But the internet is global bro. Yeah I know but like you know like they clearly didn't intend any bad feelings by it because
Starting point is 01:27:55 they only gave it to Japan where it's like that's actually the joke. Although I do have to say like the extra lines it's really funny because that's exactly what happens to the Gundam designs. It's like granular jokes. But it looks cool. Yeah. It does look cool. You know.
Starting point is 01:28:09 It's got little blows and stuff. I'm actually pissed that it's not even something you can buy. Like if it was a joke. I wish it was a model. I would fucking pre-order that model. In the end I do wish it were real to box for a shirt. Yeah. Like I have the X and the zero and the wild D-Arts.
Starting point is 01:28:20 Give me something I can support Mega Man with. Sure. Other thing as far as while we're talking about bringing things back from the dead although this one's a little bit more literal. You guys catch that trailer of Bruce Lee in the U.S.C. game in the U.S.C. game. I'm not sure if I'm a fan of that. I thought you were going to talk about Fast and Furious. No.
Starting point is 01:28:39 No. No. No. Bruce Lee in the new Fast and Furious game. Bruce Lee the father of MMA. Apparently. Yes. Yes.
Starting point is 01:28:47 Yes. Is that accurate? You know. No. No. No. That's not. Bruce Lee is technically mixing martial arts.
Starting point is 01:28:57 The Gracies are the fucking fathers of MMA. Sure. And that's like when they had the commercials that said Street Fighter is the original MMA games. Yes. Yeah. Foot fucker. No.
Starting point is 01:29:09 You're stretching the time. No. That being said though. The motto looks exactly like Bruce Lee. Well do you know why. Because they got a body cast from this family. That's creepy. And they used and they thought.
Starting point is 01:29:18 Why they just have a body cast. Like they had a full 3D body cast of Bruce Lee. Like this family had it. Why. It was probably a promotional thing. It was a thing. That's the part I'm focusing on. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:29:32 They've had it for years. Because my parents don't have a fucking body cast of me. If you do not have famous as Bruce Lee. The biggest dude ever. The biggest dude ever. Maybe I am. You're tiny. And more importantly now UFC catches up to every other fighting game that already has
Starting point is 01:29:48 a Bruce Lee character. It took us long. How do you feel about them actually using Bruce Lee though. I think that's fine. I don't mind. I think it's weird. I think it's weird. I think it's a little weird.
Starting point is 01:29:57 I think it's a bit weird. Because they've brought Jordan back into the NBA. Jordan's not dead. Jordan's not dead. No sure. He agreed to that. See I love the opinion that if you're going to use somebody's likeness it's weird if they're dead.
Starting point is 01:30:11 Okay. Or not even. What about putting Macho Man DLC into a wrestling game I think. I feel weird about that also. It's weird. It's weird. Like if stats better all be 100. Or what about the Beatles Rock Band.
Starting point is 01:30:25 They have to use two dead guys. That's weird. That's weird. Okay well I don't mind it. That's alright. Like when you're dead and they put out woolly mad and spelling. And to be fair. You're going to be like to be fair.
Starting point is 01:30:38 Because you're dead. No I'm going to be like nothing. To be fair I'm extra creeped up by this because of the news I got like I know it's not game news but the fact that they're going to fucking CG Paul Walker and then move fucking Fast and Furious. That's fucking disgusting. Wait. Wait.
Starting point is 01:30:55 They're going to use a body double and a CG face to keep his role in the movie. What? Yeah. The whole movie. The whole movie. They're not just going to write him out of it. No. That's exactly what happened to Bruce Lee actually.
Starting point is 01:31:07 Because that is the perfect time to regain your series. Oh. Because Fast 7 is supposed to be the end of Paul Walker's character's arc and the whole movie's about that so they're like well fuck it we'll use a body double and a CG face. You know that's not unheard of though because in Gladiator the guy that trains and also Crow died during the thing and they did the same thing with CG space. You're totally right. I think it's disgusting.
Starting point is 01:31:32 I think it's super gross. That being said Bruce Lee's been around in digital format in a lot of other ways before now. Oh definitely. He had a game. We're not playing a Bruce Lee video game. There's a Bruce Lee game for the Xbox. No.
Starting point is 01:31:46 It's not when you're the hero. Okay. Like he's the hero in those ones and this he can get beaten the fuck up. Yeah. Yeah. And like you know. Okay. Put it on neutral ground with people like Brock Lesnar.
Starting point is 01:31:57 I mean it's like well yeah. This game is EA MMA right? Yes. It's a realistic sim. I think it's weird but it's okay. I think it's like more okay if this was some fantasy fighting game where like you get Bruce Lee and like it's other like icons or something. Well I'm sure a bunch of different dead people's estates are angry at deadliest warrior.
Starting point is 01:32:19 Like what? No. I just mean like. I'm not even saying. The William Wallace family disagrees. I'm not even saying like this particular use is like bad. I just think it's really weird. It's weird.
Starting point is 01:32:30 Like I find it like personally I don't comprehend. I agree with that. It's a realistic aspect. Well how would you feel if it wasn't Bruce Lee but it was just some guy that made a lot of noises like him and his name was Jan Lee or Phelous or Dragon. I'd feel better about it because it's not him. It's an homage. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:32:49 Okay. I agree with that. And Phelous is a movie star. He's his own thing. Or martial law. Or forest law. That totally. They're not.
Starting point is 01:32:57 They're not. They're homages. They're not saying this is the guy. You know. I agree with that. That's fine. That's my line. I'm sorry.
Starting point is 01:33:05 All right. All right. Fair enough. Use Digital Pat. Use. Use Pate. Or Spike. Whatever.
Starting point is 01:33:14 Yeah. Use Lucy K. That's my body roll for you. We'll make a CG Pat and we'll use it for anti-drug PSAs. Great. This is what happens. Hey kids. You know what's great?
Starting point is 01:33:26 Not smoking crack. Don't smoke crack. Pat the CG cat. Anyway. Viewers. Viewers. What an undead talk today. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:33:40 Lots of undead talk. Let's, I guess we're going to end something a bit more interesting. Not like that boring shit we talked about on the podcast. A reader, Aldgate, sent in a link to a study that was performed on the whole video game violence thing. Right. This has been going on forever. Is this the funny one?
Starting point is 01:34:02 No. There's two. Well, this is one that I thought was interesting that popped up yesterday was University of Oxford. According to them, if the structure of a game or the design of the controls thwarts the enjoyment, it is not the violent content that drives feelings of aggression. Being competent. It's the shitty controls.
Starting point is 01:34:24 Right. Right. It's so get good. So a lot of studies have proven that violent video games don't make you more violent, but they heighten aggression. They can heighten temporary aggressive behavior and decrease helping behavior. Yes. That, however, when those studies come out, I'm always frustrated with them due to their
Starting point is 01:34:44 lack of context because that same similar results can be achieved with violent television, violent music and basically anything that'll get you like really pumped up. Yeah. There's a thing that I really like called the Jackie Chan effect and it was from another study and it was the premise that after you go see a Jackie Chan film in a theater. You feel like you're on a jump off thing. Yeah. You feel aggressive almost.
Starting point is 01:35:08 Okay. And it's the same principle. You're hopped up on goofballs. Exactly. I can say first person that I've left our local barcade after Assault Streak. Oh yeah. And you're like really fucking pissed on the way home, you know. For sure.
Starting point is 01:35:19 Gotta take a cab. But in this case, like the thing is, too, is I've, are debated the whole video game violence thing so much with my family and friends of family and like extended groups. It's a big topic. It was, it was my final, when I graduated SAJEP for my social program, it was my final essay that I did on this time. And you know what, and every time a shitty school shooting happens, you have to become the spokesperson again.
Starting point is 01:35:45 Every time. Go dig up those articles that you had saved and point to those papers. Really? The current? Yeah, but she played Dark Souls. The current thing is that all data is inconclusive over long term periods and in fact, societally, crime is down, violent crime in particular is down, however that may in actuality be a result of reduced lead content in the air, nothing to do with society, media, or policy.
Starting point is 01:36:11 Crime in Japan is down as fuck and they have the most, like, games and the most dense population. But Pat, we're studying trends and we're putting up bracket ends and when you do that to your data, I guess what happens. Maybe if everyone just played Monster Hunter, we wouldn't blame games. It would be all ready to fight monsters if they showed up. Yeah, fuck yeah. It's like, it always frustrates me because this research is always incredibly narrow. It's narrow, like research has to be narrow, but it's narrow to the point of like a day.
Starting point is 01:36:41 We took like 13, 13 year olds and had them play Grand Theft Auto 5. How many people, what's the sample size of people playing video games nowadays, like millions and millions and millions of people? You need a huge study, you need like a thousand people. You need to study them as a life longitudinal study over 20 years. And many games are, we're at that point, yeah. And you need to cross-reference that with a representative sample size of people who never played games in their life.
Starting point is 01:37:07 And that research is now almost impossible because everybody plays video games. And it's not worth putting the money into because it's almost been like agreed on, that it's inconclusive. Yeah, so that's why I found this particular thing interesting because every week we could possibly talk about a new study that says this or that. But this one, basically the researchers went in with the hypothesis, not the hypothesis, but with the statement that we need to have more sophisticated approaches when we're looking at video game experimental data.
Starting point is 01:37:35 It's a complex system in which there are so many variables. Yes, you can't just read one aspect of it and say video game contains violent content and therefore result, right? So what they did was they said, how much do the mechanics per se work into it? What part of the game breaks it up? Exactly. And so what they did was they had groups that were broken up into people that were playing Half-Life 2.
Starting point is 01:37:58 Regular as Half-Life 2. They had people that were playing Half-Life 2 modded so that it was non-violent. Yeah, you were tagging enemies. There was no blood. You were tagging enemies and they were just kind of evaporating like, oh, you got the type of thing. It's a clatter. And then they had the same two, then they had the original in the mod, modified for
Starting point is 01:38:18 janky shit fucking controls. With no tutorial. With no tutorial on both sides, so yeah, bad controls and no instructions on how to play the game. And the aggression was substantially higher. Unbelievable. And in both cases, it doesn't matter how peaceful the game was, the crux was the aggression came from the fact that it felt unfair.
Starting point is 01:38:39 Yeah, right. And that was more statistically significant than any presence of violence. Exactly. When you are in a situation where you don't have control over the outcome or you don't feel like you have a fighting chance at it, that's going to make you way more aggressive than just seeing a depicted violence. And I don't blame researchers in the past that have had this problem because when you're researching, these media researches on effects are relatively similar between media, books,
Starting point is 01:39:08 music, television, you show them the fucking thing, you show them the weak sauce version of the thing, you record your results. Exactly. Because they're static. And they change between the viewer. Yeah, and iteration is how you construct these kinds of studies. But games, there are a complex system within their own right with all these different variables and so this is actually a pretty good way to do it.
Starting point is 01:39:30 So no, Dark Souls didn't create the Craigslist killer because Dark Souls is a good game. Shitty games are responsible. So imagine a guy goes in, he sees this violent movie and the guy kills everyone and shoots everyone perfectly, whatever, and he's like, yeah, fuck yeah. And another guy watches a movie where there's this guy with guns and a sword and he's bumping into walls and falling over things and can't get a ladder to go and he's like, fuck this movie, I'm so pissed. God damn it.
Starting point is 01:39:57 No. I'm gonna kill some people. David Cage has hurt more people. Oh, yeah. Fit postal. Yeah, yeah, yeah, absolutely. I'd agree to that. I'd agree with that.
Starting point is 01:40:06 Postal is a problem. Are you serious? Yeah. So somebody just pulled out some sound files out of Beyond Two Souls and found out that the bar scene was originally intended to go all the way. Oh my god. But I mean like, where's the, spoiler alert, sorry. It's fine, I know what it's gonna happen.
Starting point is 01:40:27 There are audio files of Jodi asking Aiden why didn't she, why didn't he stop them? Oh my god. Like, yeah, the whole, the whole way. What do you mean you say audio files, you mean she recorded voiceovers? Yeah. Like why didn't you stop them? David. David, you're like, worse than postal?
Starting point is 01:40:46 Yeah. Because it's called worse controls. Where you stick a cat's butt on your gun as a silencer. See, see, that's farce. There's a difference between, there's a difference between bad satire and farce. And what is an attempt at a realistic portrayal of the story. I get you, I get you, just like postal is pretty tasteless. Oh, it's absolutely tasteless, but I don't think that there was damage done due to postal.
Starting point is 01:41:10 No, but just the study that like, it's like, some people that were looking at this went, hold on a minute, does the, does the content and build and make of the game matter? Or is it just seeing violence everywhere? You know, if you were playing a DDR game, where like, children were dying as you landed on the right score, you know. That being said, we love to defend games here, but there is a small subset of the population of the game violence absolutely affects them long term. Oh, undoubtedly.
Starting point is 01:41:39 And there is a portion of the population that is suggestible to this kind of media and is malleable. The kind of kids that you hear about, I remember when Power Rangers came out, there were some German kids that beat a school kid, one of their classmates to death with rocks, because they're playing Power Rangers. Like, there are people out there that cannot handle this shit. Well, literally they've got issues. And there is a relative argument to be made that of those people, the games would affect them the worst because of the interactivity.
Starting point is 01:42:11 Chances are those are the same people that read Catcher and the Rike, think they're holding Caulfield and go kill a beetle. So it doesn't matter what the media is per se, but they are totally the type of people that are susceptible to that. Yeah. There's no test for that, to my knowledge. Unfortunately, that applies to all walks. It's probably the sociopath test, though.
Starting point is 01:42:29 Don't be sociopath kids. They're psychopaths now, they changed it. You might want to stop both. Yeah. That's confusing. Why do they do that? Psychopath doesn't exist anymore. It's now sociopath.
Starting point is 01:42:39 No, it used to be the other way around. And they changed it. The DSM switched it back? Yeah, I think so. No. God damn it. Fuck. I can give you current news.
Starting point is 01:42:49 This shit is hard to follow. And I went to school over this shit. I can't follow. Okay, my girlfriend is more up to date. Yeah, you're right. You're right. You're totally right. God fucking damn it.
Starting point is 01:42:57 That's so confusing. Yeah. Call them a psycho and be done with it. Yeah, it works. Okay. A layman's psycho. We don't have to be supportive of your psycho. No.
Starting point is 01:43:06 That's not true at all. And then moving along. Fuck SNK once again. Fuck you guys. Just gotta get that cliff note in there. That's where it was. Fuck you. Which one's next?
Starting point is 01:43:16 Metal Slug? Metal Slug? Okay, so get this. Get this. Hey. I'm getting it. You know how Mugen was ruined by Dragon Ball characters? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:43:24 And then eventually YouTube? Yeah. So fucking like in a perfect like karma like refilling this amazing game called Hyper Dragon Ball Z. Yeah, I saw this. Yeah. A trailer pops up for it. Looks godlike.
Starting point is 01:43:38 It's awesome. Yeah. Because there was a sprite artist that made a lot of awesome original sprites and that's what it takes to give you a first impression of you'll look at this game. Yeah. Work went into this. Yes. I do have to say as someone again that started hundreds of thousands of sprites and spent
Starting point is 01:43:53 hundreds of hours in Mugen, it's a shame that they're not using different hit sparks, different combo counters. There's a couple of other things they could come and stuff in there. Yeah, but still the work there is incredible. But you know what? Fuck it. Like they got Dragon Ball characters doing the Dragon Ball thing and it looks great. It looks fun.
Starting point is 01:44:09 Shout out to these guys. Check out the trailer. I'm putting a link to it. It's called Hyper DBZ. Is it out? Out? Yeah. You can go download it.
Starting point is 01:44:17 Good. So cease and desist or safe. Yep. This is how you announce a fan game. Can't be stopped. Suddenly. And without warning. And in the brackets for your game, you put happy birthday Toriyama or whatever.
Starting point is 01:44:28 So he's going to go like, oh. I'm going to shut you down. I don't think Toriyama gives a goddamn fuck about stopping people from using Dragon Ball. It's all the douchebag suits that own him. Toriyama's busy drawing Sandland fan art. No, he's busy with his new manga about the alien guy. He has a new manga about an alien guy. Did he learn to draw a new character?
Starting point is 01:44:49 Yeah. It looks like one of those mini creatures that used to live on Namek. So no. Edger. Okay. But anyway. And so like they have a new series, a new manga coming out, but they're pushing it with an extra story, an extra backstory chapter for Dragon Ball.
Starting point is 01:45:08 Yeah. In which they show you Goku's mom. The first female Saiyan ever. Plague of Grypes on the cutting edge, designing the female Saiyans. She looks kind of like Videl. Honestly. She looks like Videl. I'm shocked.
Starting point is 01:45:21 Exactly. With a little bit more of Goku's skin. Videl just looks like a Saiyan. Yeah. And she looks like a rough and tumble mom. Yeah. That's cool. There you go.
Starting point is 01:45:29 So you're going to also kill an ancestor of Frieza in a dumb flashback? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Fuck that stupid Pardoc movie. That's kind of now. Shut up. That's the worst.
Starting point is 01:45:39 I know. We talked about the frog fractions to guys last time, and since their Kickstarter announcement, they've released Kickstarter Simulator. Yeah. Have you played it? Have you seen it? No. This is great.
Starting point is 01:45:52 It's great. You want to cover it? You have to shoot down bad ideas. Yeah. So it's Kickstarter. It's not Kickstarter. No, no, no. It's not Kickstarter.
Starting point is 01:46:00 Gotta encourage his good ideas. So what it is, it's one of those old Newgrounds flash games. Like Pico? Yeah. Except that it's live action of them. It's an FMV game. FMV game. That's the word I was looking for.
Starting point is 01:46:11 Thank you. And you're the masked person. You can just shoot. You shoot them. Crosshairs. Thank you. Yeah. So it's a game guy walks into the living room and it's like, hey, honey, you know, so,
Starting point is 01:46:21 you know, she's like, I'm going to be working on the Kickstarter page and all the stuff. So don't bother me no matter what it is. And he's like, okay. Bad ideas. And he just comes in and he's like, hey, do you think we can maybe go for lunch at the park? You have to shoot him and stop him from distracting her. God.
Starting point is 01:46:36 You know, and then, and then like it shows him doing his own thing. And then the last guy is like, I have a ton of money. I want to go get, give to frog fractions right now. But I should go buy groceries. So he goes to the grocery store and he's looking at things like food. You shoot him like, oh, no, I can't buy food anymore. I got to go give it to frog fractions. You know, it's pretty funny.
Starting point is 01:46:56 Take a peek. Those guys, they know how to. I will think I will do this in case you haven't seen it also. Twin beard, who is the guy in charge of twin beard, who make frog fractions. He was at GDC and he had one of the best talks at GDC and he rerecorded it for, for his audience, for the internet. He posted it as his fifth update to frog fractions was, hey, if you guys want to listen to it. And it's on games surprising you.
Starting point is 01:47:21 Oh, cool. In, in an age of spoilers. And it's why I'm always like, I don't talk about Dark Souls. Because I love surprise more than anything else in the world. That's why I'm such a dick. You're a huge dick. Because I love when people get surprised. Because surprises are the best things in the world.
Starting point is 01:47:37 Well, they are. But you could at least say, hey, good job after someone gets past it. You're just like, nah, yeah, whatever. Yeah, good job. Okay, yeah. You think you're good? You think you're special, huh? Get good.
Starting point is 01:47:48 You got, you got the thing? You did the thing? Oh, yeah, whatever. That only applies to Dark Souls. And in all fairness, I have been thinking about Dark Souls. We should give people context. I mean, you could have like an hour long argument over the, what we think the design of Dark Souls is.
Starting point is 01:48:01 But, but the, but the, to give people some context is because like as I've been playing through it more and more, I'd literally come give the guys the update on where I am. Every time without fail patch like, oh yeah. Hey man, you know, you did the thing. Did you check that out? Yeah. Okay. Cool.
Starting point is 01:48:16 And Liam's like, oh yeah, whatever. That wasn't anything. Yeah. Okay. Every time. And like I said, what else you got? In all fairness pertaining to Dark Souls too. You're a huge asshole.
Starting point is 01:48:24 I have been kind of an ass to you. When we were waiting Matt to, to get here. Right before Dark Souls. And Liam just, yeah, you run right through, running through. You shut up. Cause if someone had known and I thought he would know the layout of that room, he would have been fine. No, you always assumed that the person knows nothing.
Starting point is 01:48:40 Hey, why aren't you playing through the area and beat the boss? But we were telling him about that shortcut that he didn't know about. What he evidently did cause he got there. And I knew, I could tell right away that he was not the kind of person that would want to blitz through an area and choke people. He'd want to take them out when I wanted to. But there's gotta be lots of people thinking, oh, but running through it's fine anyway. I've been, I've been drawing them out the whole game.
Starting point is 01:49:00 Fucking listen to me when I tell you about Dark Souls. Telling him to shut up. We have video evidence of this. It's fine. If the teachers had been switched that Dark Souls video would have been better. Maybe it would have. Maybe not, though. There's parts of that epilogue with me and Liam playing where Liam's like, we're going
Starting point is 01:49:19 to jump off this fucking thing. Oh, whatever. Watch, watch, watch me make this sick jump over this gap. No, no caution. No fourth on. Just all of you. No caution to the wind. Try to, try to troll the sacks when there is no sacks.
Starting point is 01:49:34 I just want to have fun. And I just want to be like, oh, can I do this cool thing? Yeah, I can do this cool thing. Or no, I can't. Yeah, exactly. Get good. Speaking of having fun, fun might be on its way because fun might be on its way. Fun might be on its way.
Starting point is 01:49:51 Finally. I'm hyped. Have you seen Mario Kart? The composer of Wreck-It Ralph says they're working on a script. Good. They're working on a script. Is Mario going to be in it? Well, you would think he'd have to be.
Starting point is 01:50:05 Because they, and I remember them talking about it in the first one because people freaked their shit like Sonic's there where the fuck is Mario. And they're like, if we put in Mario, if we put in Mario in it, like Mario has to be like a fucking main character. Huge character. So we want to have Ralph have his own game. Which makes sense. Also Mario. Yeah. Also Fix It Felix is kind of like a Mario.
Starting point is 01:50:24 Sure. That's his whole raison d'etat. Why would they do that? I don't care. For Charles, Mario's gonna die. Yeah, yeah. Like, they could find a good one. The problem with Mario is can he actually, like, can he save a script?
Starting point is 01:50:40 Can he actually have full online? No, I would like him, you know what I want him to be? I want him to be the wolf in Fantastic Mr. Fox. Do you know what I mean? Yeah, but that's just saying he needs to be in it like a bunch. Well, but not necessarily like a sidekick or a dude that's helping him, but like the awesome guy. Yeah, no, that's cool. That's an alternate story.
Starting point is 01:51:04 I honestly worry, like I say something like, Mario has to be in it, but I'm worried it's like, there's a lot of big video game characters that I think their inclusion would like, super fuck up a movie. Like, who's Ralph gonna team up for on this planet? Master Chief. Soc McTavish. The guy with no personality at all. I would rather any Street Fighter II character to Mario, because I think they could carry it.
Starting point is 01:51:28 Well, they were already in it, so the first one, Ryu and Giefer there with Bicers. Just a little bit, for sure. Yeah, but I mean, it's like a main character rather than Mario, because I think they could carry it way better than Mario. And we saw the princesses, right? Yeah, yeah. Well, no, you saw a girl that looks like princesses, colored like Daisy and Peach. Bowser was there, Bowser was there. No, I'd Bruce Lee be the fucking sidekick.
Starting point is 01:51:50 Now that we know that, like, it's a huge success, now that everyone else knows it's a huge success, expect to see bigger names. Yeah, it's gotta. I'm expecting to see. Please know Shepard or Master Chief. Maybe not Mario, but we're probably gonna get like Donkey Kong. We're probably gonna get like... DK'd be great.
Starting point is 01:52:05 You know, even though that's basically Ralph. Put Mara in it. Put Captain Falcon in it. Put Mara in it. A lot more, a lot more jokes. Like, basically anything that Nintuck and Creepyass dictated. Put Mara in it. Yeah, I agree.
Starting point is 01:52:16 Anything that Captain N would have been. Yeah. Could be now. Oh man. They put a bomb on him. Okay, imagine Ralph or whoever's like walking to another game. We're like, where is this? And then like this, this like orange blur comes down and Samus ticks off her helmet.
Starting point is 01:52:31 And then her hair's like going... Yeah. Ralph's like, ooh. We're falling in love. That'd be awesome. But they already played the sound. So the only way... What's her face?
Starting point is 01:52:40 Yeah, who? So that character is a combination of Samus and Shepard. And Master Chief. And Master Chief. Yes. So you're one dynamite gal. So I just thought of it in my head. And now if it's not what the movie is, I'm going to be upset and it's impossible.
Starting point is 01:52:56 So I've ruined it for myself. Is that they... Ralph should go visit the Smash Brothers arcade cabinet. Well... That doesn't exist. No. I don't care. I don't care.
Starting point is 01:53:07 Shut up. No. It doesn't make sense. Okay, no. I don't care. I want to... They make a home port of Wreck-It Ralph. Sure.
Starting point is 01:53:15 That was my thinking. I don't care. I don't care. I just want to... Smash Bros. But he sits with all the home console guys. Says goodbye to the arcade. And then you get to watch the kids in the living rooms.
Starting point is 01:53:26 Yeah. Although it's different. At that point. You know, I'd appreciate a nice... I'd appreciate a nice little scene where he's like sitting next to Kratos. And Kratos is being a weird asshole. Like Kratos is a normal asshole. Kratos is a weird asshole.
Starting point is 01:53:43 Like Kratos is drinking on a slurpee and it falls on the floor and he goes... SLURPER! And he just kills five people. Or in the background you just get a cardboard box sneaking by. Great. That'd be awesome. Well it had that explanation mark. Of course.
Starting point is 01:53:56 That was good. Or fuck it. Just put Morgan Freeman in it and have it be weird that people talk to him and he just stares at me. Really? Morgan Freeman? Damn it! God damn it!
Starting point is 01:54:06 Gordon Freeman? I mean Gordon Freeman. No fuck it. I'm changing it to Morgan Freeman. He just stares at you and plays the hidden. And one other cool thing... Put Phil Fish in it. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:54:18 Fuck it. Have a joke on it. Everyone's been keeping tabs on Trigger and what they've been up to or what they're going to be up to. What are they going to be up to? Something weird. Two things. So the one thing I heard about was the dating manga?
Starting point is 01:54:33 What was it called? I think it was a light novel and I'm not familiar with it at all. Okay. But they're doing that. Okay. They're taking a break from the crazy hyper-action shit. Oh wait. No, maybe not.
Starting point is 01:54:44 Because it turns out they're working on another project called Ninja Slayer Karate Pistol Fist Suicide. Okay. Shut up! This is the most confusing genesis of a project because it's made by Americans but it's supposed to be a send-up of Japanese-American anime. It's weird. It's very unclear.
Starting point is 01:55:01 Can I get that title again? Ninja Slayer Karate Pistol Fist Suicide. Okay. The Kotaku article is already being written. I'm writing it. This is what you call it. Yeah, it's a send-up and apparently they're not necessarily doing it entirely but they're involved.
Starting point is 01:55:23 It's weird. Yeah, they are attached to it. That's what Crunchyroll says. I'm pretty sure they're also working on Little Witch Academia too. Which if you haven't seen Little Witch Academia, damn that animation. It's trigger. So you know what do you want? Okay.
Starting point is 01:55:37 It's good. It's not like a weird Japanese homage to Harry Potter. Yeah, totally. It's good. Yeah. The Ninja Fist Suicide thing, I'll probably go for that first. But if you like animation and I know you're an art student, Little Witch Academia is totally worth watching.
Starting point is 01:55:54 And the other thing they did that's understated is Inferno Cop, which a couple people have sent in. You mean Ghost Rider? Yeah, Ghost Rider, like, huge dick on YouTube. But it's pretty funny. Yeah, I guess before we move into the next section, let's get some words from our sponsors, you guys. So guys, we gotta give shout-outs to Hulu Plus for sponsoring this show once again.
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Starting point is 01:56:41 No waiting. Give it to me in like a raw stream of data in my fucking mouth. What is something we can demand? You can demand to watch all of Kill La Kill in one night, one shot. Which is now over. So if you want to just fucking say fuck it, I'm going to drink this energy drink and I'm going to sit here and I'm going to watch this weird show about girls fighting with no pants on.
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Starting point is 01:57:23 I want to see what you guys are doing wrong. See what we're doing wrong and what Ash did right. Which is nothing because Ash sucks and Gary's awesome. No, imagine if you did that and you're like, oh, I should just talk to the Pokemon trainer I'm fighting. Yeah. You head on over to HuluPlus dot com slash super and you watch all of Pokemon on demand. Are you serious that he has all of Pokemon?
Starting point is 01:57:47 You can watch all of Pokemon. All in one dude. That's so much Pokemon. That's a lot. So much content. Do be careful if you consume all of Pokemon in a short period of time. I know. You want to take Liam's advice and check out some Sword Art online?
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Starting point is 01:58:35 What's up? What's up? Audible has once again sponsored the podcast. Thanks Audible. Thank you Audible. We've extolled the virtues of audio books in your ears. Reading this time. Reading power.
Starting point is 01:58:47 Reading books on paper or screen nerd. That's nerd shit. Dude this is. Listen to it in your brain. This is a thousand percent greener than that. Right? Your carbon footprint is invisible. You're walking on air.
Starting point is 01:59:01 Non-existent. That's true. And you know what? We even got an email from a dude that listened to one of our Audible things. A real email. But they took advantage by heading over to Audible. Somebody who listens to the podcast was like I'm going to go to Audible. Shit.
Starting point is 01:59:16 He went to our URL audiblepodcast.com slash super best and he gives the following story. Hey Zybatsu. Just wanted to shoot a thanks to you guys because your Audible trial thing. It helped me out in the jam. Last Friday I decided to work on a presentation for a book that I had to read for my classes but it was, I'm pretty sure it was fairly short. It turned out it was upwards of 600 pages and a small like could be available. I could feel this dilemma coming.
Starting point is 01:59:42 I'm an English major in my final year of university and I have an abysmally slow reading speed. And at least low level ADHD. Plus there's no time. There's no time. In a fucking way I could have gotten through this shit in time to take it to class. Then an idea dawned on me. I went to audiblepodcast.com slash super best and used the promo code. And lo and behold I should shoot you not a 23 and a half hour long audio book was available
Starting point is 02:00:08 for the same book for free. Nice. Thanks to you guys. I plopped it down with a bunch of energy drinks, got to work listening real hard to the novel and played Dark Souls the rest of the way. See that's interesting because like I'm thinking back like at times that I was in like English class or whatever you got to read this book and like there's never like even if it's large or small there's you can never like ballpark the hour count like exactly.
Starting point is 02:00:29 No never. Right. You can never budget your time properly. Yeah. But if you have an audio book and it's like straight up like this is 12 hours. This is 23 hours. This is 50 hours. That's a really good gauge.
Starting point is 02:00:39 I know exactly how many times a day to listen to this for how long etc. Yep. Fast forward to now. I'm finishing up the presentation eight and a half hours before it's due. Yo. Yeah. And now I can bring my build through Dark Souls onto New Game Plus. Yeah.
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Starting point is 02:01:29 Thank you. What time is it? It's 9 30. 9 30. It could be 9 33. I'm sorry. Which means it's letter time. There you go.
Starting point is 02:01:41 It's letter time. You guys want to send in a letter. Send it into super best friend fly. I'll take over. If you want to send us a letter send it to super best friend cast at gmail.com. Actually let me change that. Thank you. If you want to send in an email.
Starting point is 02:01:54 Send it to super best friend cast at gmail.com. Did we both fuck that up? I think we did. You fucked it up more than I did. I did. Yeah. No. You just let your stuttered and fell in Facebook.
Starting point is 02:02:05 That's super best friend cast at gmail.com and you might sound something like this. You gotta read everything like that now. You can't escape what you just did. Let's hear your email sex voice. Future sex email sex. The most minor little non-spoilers with kill the kill late series things. But Josiah says fuck you. Mako X Gamigori can be a thing.
Starting point is 02:02:32 That's not a question. Get fucked. Get fucked. No it's fine. Because apparently. I will fight you right now. We're gonna fight as soon as this thing turns off. Josiah says that or Josiah perhaps.
Starting point is 02:02:45 Says apparently the word that Mako uses when talking at the end of the series. Fuck everything. Is the word for hanging out with friends. Shut up. So I don't remember kissing my friends on the mouth when I hang out with you. You didn't have friends then. Yeah. But that's apparently what the word translates to.
Starting point is 02:03:07 I don't care. It's not real to me. It's not real to me. Damn it. Fuck you Josiah. I like my real Gamigori better though. I totally. No.
Starting point is 02:03:16 You guys are asshole. Gamiko man. Gamiko for life. Whatever couple name you want to use as long as they're together. Is there any other couple names? Sheds. Sheds. People will make them up.
Starting point is 02:03:27 Nature finds a way. I have so salt as fuck over here. Fuck. Kyle wants to know how do you guys record stuff whenever Matt's not around or when it's not in his place. What do you mean how? Well I think we should probably just elaborate. What phone do we use?
Starting point is 02:03:44 Matt has a setup in his place. I have a setup in my place. And I have a setup in my place. So like when Matt and I recorded Assassin's Creed 4 on PlayStation 4 for the machine on episode I didn't bring my fucking gear over to Matt's house. Yeah. He came to my house. I mean in the first couple of seasons we only had like the one setup to go around.
Starting point is 02:04:05 But as the years go on everyone gets their own setup. Yeah. I mean you still have the fancy HDMI one with the better mic but like we could technically record at all our houses which is exactly how the Anarchy Rains brawl was done. We hadn't recorded at my place one time. That's true. It totally happened. Not just videos but like.
Starting point is 02:04:21 Exactly. I brought my stuff. He brought his stuff. Yeah. But for other videos and stuff. We all have mics. We all have recording devices. So that's how it's done.
Starting point is 02:04:29 Like PC stuff. Always at my house. That's the only one that's like locked because I'm the only one who has the PC that has the recording shit. So I think Matt went over them in his Balmain's apartment tour. Yeah. We used the Elgato's and the HTP VR's. And the Blues.
Starting point is 02:04:43 And the Blue Snowballs. And the Blue Ice... Yeti. Yeti. Yeti. Way better. Yeti Snowballs. Yeti.
Starting point is 02:04:51 Anthony wants to know what's outside Batsu. Yo what's up Tony. Yo what's up. What kind of shoes do you guys wear? Now preface. Comfy ones. Preface if this is not a thing about sending shoes don't send shoes. Don't send shoes.
Starting point is 02:05:02 Just in case. Maybe I'm overstepping my bounds here. This is where I get to out myself as a fucking chode. And it's like I don't know. I just go I'm like my shoes wear all the way through. And then I walk in the store and just put shoes on until I like them. For my birthday present I got these awesome Riddler Batman Chuck Taylor's. And I really like them because they're green and purple and they make me happy.
Starting point is 02:05:25 Okay well they make you happy so that's cool. I don't want you to be happy. Everyone talk shit. Well fuck you. They were a gift. I tried to. From a special person. Each shit.
Starting point is 02:05:34 From a special person. I try to avoid shoes with laces to be honest. But yeah they're bastards. I hear that. I hear that. But it's a hassle. Because you know those boots that I have that are great and they're super warm. But like boy it takes a while to lace those fuckers up.
Starting point is 02:05:45 But fuck you. You're a sandal guy. You mean you mean you're fuck fucks. Yeah in the summer sandals. All the time. All the time. Sandals as soon as like the first patch of green shows. Dude so gross.
Starting point is 02:05:57 It was still like spring. Like when the dog shit is just melting underneath the ice. Liam's got his sandals going. Cause fuck socks. I have like ten and a half Adidas. Usually I have like a black and red pair. Three stripes. I usually go for Adidas.
Starting point is 02:06:13 There you go. Yeah sandals are comfy. Shut up. I hate sandals. You're a retired guy. I feel like every time I've worn sandals it's been like a trip to getting stabbed in the feet by something. You always wind up in jail when you wear sandals somehow.
Starting point is 02:06:31 Confession time. Once. Once. I was sandals and socks guy. Fuck you. I didn't know. I've never done that. Eat the biggest pile of shit.
Starting point is 02:06:41 I will. I just saw a bitch. Why did you do that? I didn't know. It was just the weather was just a little bit like. But then why were like I don't get people that like why are you wearing the sandals if you're wearing the socks. Why not wear sandals?
Starting point is 02:06:53 Yeah Jerry. I really said it a bit like. Yeah. Cause we were going to be out for a while and I knew my feet were. No don't. No shut up. There's no excuse. It was awful.
Starting point is 02:07:03 It was awful. I pull shit like that. I want this level of brutal honesty. Yeah. No. I ate shit. So you know. That there you go.
Starting point is 02:07:11 It's raining out. Even I'll put on shoes. I'm creepy weirdo. What? They're comfy and easy to wear. Yeah. If you're a fifth year old retired guy. Or if you're anyone.
Starting point is 02:07:21 I feel like sandals plus certain weather is halfway to wearing sweat pants outside. No but like if I want to look cool. I'll do my best to try to look cool. But I don't. But I still wear sandals. I don't dress to impress every day of the week. You sure don't. I don't have to.
Starting point is 02:07:40 That's true. You just flick the hair. Exactly. Flash those beads. You should really like grow your hair out stupid long. No. Fuck that. Fuck you girl.
Starting point is 02:07:50 Cause then you got caught in a car door one time. Cause then you look like you're supposed to. Yeah. Yeah. Your true form will be unleashed. No. Not happening. You're just like tech a man.
Starting point is 02:08:02 If your hair grows too long you'll lose control and attack everyone. No it's never happening. That's the one thing I pay attention to. What else? Just a quick one from Mackenzie. She says please respond. Woolly what are the buttons on your hat mean? One of them is a reboot symbol.
Starting point is 02:08:16 One of them is gum from Jet Set Radio Future. The other one is peacock from Skullgirls. Thank you and thank you to the Skullgirls guy. Send me that thing. We got one from Ryan. Ryan wants to know. Yo what's up Ryan? A couple of times you guys have talked about games that are so good they killed the franchise.
Starting point is 02:08:36 Such as Call of Duty 4 or RE4. Are there any others you can think of that irrevocably changed the series for the worst by being so good that future games ruined themselves trying to recapture those events. World of Warcraft. Castlevania. Not an IP. Not an IP. I would say World of Warcraft ruined its entire genre.
Starting point is 02:08:55 Okay well that's yeah that's strong. Think about how fucking bad MMOs have been since World of Warcraft came out. Mine is going to be Rock Band. I think Rock Band it came out it did everything and we were done. Final Fantasy. What are you going to do after that besides chase Rock Band? I'd say Final Fantasy they kept trying to make something like Final Fantasy 7. Yeah and then they fail harder and harder each time.
Starting point is 02:09:24 The only standout is 9. 10 is pretty good. You mean 10. 9 and 10 are both fantastic. And 12 is super alright too. 12 could have been fantastic. No but just in terms of like ground swell. Oh 7 and nothing is ever going to be easy.
Starting point is 02:09:40 7 is untouchable and 10 sounds like what people talk about the most after that. Not 9. Sorry. No sorry. I mean like 9 was like let's not try to do that. Yeah it was a classic throwback. Let's make a standout like homage to the older game. Like all the rest are still like let's make them anime.
Starting point is 02:09:56 I just want to take 45 seconds. I'm playing through FF10 now on the remastered one. There are weird voice acting problems. It's stilted. It's weird. Tidus is annoying. Some of the characterizations bad. Some of the weird PS2 shit is awful.
Starting point is 02:10:10 And it's so much more interesting and engaging than any of the past Final Fantasy games. And like I'm playing it. Like that's really bad. I like it. Fuck this series. Oh my god. It's the exact moment from 10 to 10 to 2. You can see it just start to go bad.
Starting point is 02:10:28 So fucking crazy. Tim from Germany wants to know. You know how's Germany Tim? It's Deutsch. What do you guys think makes a great demo? A great demo? Yeah. The ability to save and carry over your progress.
Starting point is 02:10:44 That's a carrying over your progress? A great thing. Is sick. Hunting games use that to great measure. I like it. I love when the demo has different content from the main game. That's super hard. Super good.
Starting point is 02:10:57 Resident Evil Revelations demo. Where they tweaked it all up. Everything was tweaked and different. I love it. Probably. This isn't what needs to be in a good demo. But what ruins a demo. And the demo being the first 30 minutes of the game.
Starting point is 02:11:11 Which is always the shittiest part of the game. Fucking give me a real stat screen on how to play. And dump me three hours in. Yeah. A limitless amount of uses. Which should be a fucking given. Should be compliant. Nintendo.
Starting point is 02:11:26 Fuck you Nintendo. Some other companies do that too. Where they build it in. They're just like all your save data says you've played it. No, but it's the thought. It's so such a done thing to complain about. But it's dumb. On Monster Hunter I'm close.
Starting point is 02:11:37 I only have eight left. Monster Hunter what? 3G. Okay. You know like that Monster Hunter. I'm almost there. I don't want to buy that game. I liked.
Starting point is 02:11:49 I just want to play. Fuck you. Like for me. Support that game if you play that. I've played the shit out of try. I want to play 4. Then why are you playing 3G? Yeah.
Starting point is 02:11:57 Because it's on my 3DS. The demo. And I'm like I want to fight a Lagombi. That demo is terrible. But it's like I want to fight a Lagombi with a bow gun. Okay. You were describing a very specific thing. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:12:08 I'm on the Metro and I'm like I want to fight a Lagombi. That's weird. Then get fucking free you. But I played the shit out of try. I don't want to play 3G. Dude what it was like. Because I'm on the Metro and I happen to want to fight a fucking Lagombi. What's wrong with that?
Starting point is 02:12:21 Lagombi suck. But I just want to fight one. Okay. That's just one. I don't want to go to the village and waste time specking. That's the best part. You know what? Sometimes I just feel the urge I want to fight a Stalfos with Z targeting.
Starting point is 02:12:35 That'd be nice. And I can't do it. Yeah. So I get you. Exactly. And no bullshit. Yeah. That's why Bloody Palace is awesome.
Starting point is 02:12:44 Exactly. Oh yeah. And what's the lost chapter in Bayo? I think it's called? It's the infinite. It's the Bloody Palace of Berlin. I think it's called the Lost Chapter. I can't remember.
Starting point is 02:12:56 The other thing I'll throw in there too as it comes to mind is when it shows you the skill tree and or shop where you can see the branch. You can see where your fucking character goes. Let me see that. Let me get access to it. And let me highlight the little shadow things and give me a bit of a hint as to what's coming. The worst, worst thing a demo can do is have you fight the demo, get to the boss and then say to be continued.
Starting point is 02:13:18 No fuck you. Let me fight the boss and be interested in your game. Cut scene fades into nothing. Another bad thing to have is like the problem we have with Lords of Shadow 2 is that the demo was of what you expected. And then as soon as that demo ends, the retail version, it's like you're in the future now. Make it a good representation of the full time. Unless you're Kojima.
Starting point is 02:13:39 Unless you're Kojima. Unless the point is to trick people in a fun way and not in a dick way. Yeah, do that. That's all things like Kojima's fun dick style. Hey, if your demo is good enough and it's got enough content, it might be worth money. Kojima's action. It might be worth money. As long as it's different content, it's not in the full game.
Starting point is 02:13:59 You can totally go K-Zero on that and nobody's complaining about K-Zero. I was trying to think of the right way to bring that up, but like exactly K-Zero is an example of lab. Decidia did it as well. Decidia was really good. A demo by form of like full game that's actually just... Full title that's separate. Separate, yeah. Ground Zero is a demo for Phantom Pain.
Starting point is 02:14:20 Can you get down to it? In this sense, just like the other ones and it's totally worth the money, just like the other ones. I'd agree. That's great, yeah. Ethan wants to know... Yo Ethan, what's up? Ethan. What morality choices do you usually go for in games that give you...
Starting point is 02:14:34 Good. Good all the way, then bad all the way. Exactly. It sucks. Because... That is so obvious. It's so... You're pretty much your binary and you know that good all the way is going to give you your ending.
Starting point is 02:14:45 That's the developer intends you to see. And then bad all the way is going to give you a slight twist on it. The only game, the only game I can think of in which I would actually flip-flop is the Witcher series. Because they don't tie fucking points or abilities to it. I gotta say, I hate, I fucking hate when you are told whether your thing is good or bad. Oh, it's the worst. Or in the case of Dragon Age, whether your thing's funny or it is the worst. It is at point.
Starting point is 02:15:13 Are you having a little thing saying like mean? Yeah, exactly. You chose this path. It is the worst thing ever. The best way to do it is... Which is such a good example. You see a tree of eight options. And you have no idea what's evil or good or what...
Starting point is 02:15:29 Because none of them are. It's just, does this person think you're a dick? How are they gonna feel about what I said? Every step should be a step forward, not a step back from what you just were towards the other day. Exactly. Or it should be all sideways. Morality split into you're good or evil. We were just talking about infamous last week and how infamous is the worst.
Starting point is 02:15:52 But most games are like that. In Mass Effect, you can't use some of the evil or good dialogue options to solve problems unless you're full Paragon or full Renegade. So why would you ever flip-flop? Let's say you're playing a game where you literally choose good, bad, good, bad, good, bad throughout the whole game. It sucks. If you end on zero, your game is shit. Yeah. Or that system in your game is shit.
Starting point is 02:16:18 There's one exception that I can think of now, I think of it as the Shimagami Tensei series, in which ending on zero is the only way to get the good ending. That's hard. Because it's not good and evil, it's the extremes of two ideologies of chaos and order. Okay. And so the extreme order, it's totalitarianism, it's dictatorship, it's control. Oh. And in extreme chaos, it's total anarchy and the destruction of the weak. That's awesome.
Starting point is 02:16:46 Extremes are bad there. Yeah, you're constantly being pulled towards the different directions, but if you actually manage to ride the line, you can get a better, non-extremist solution. Because I was about to say Catherine has a similar thing going on, but I really like that. Wow. I actually, in SMT-4, the ideal is to get your alignment point between law and chaos between minus nine and plus nine. The final choice gives you ten points and I actually got to that point on exactly zero. And so could not actually get neutral because it would push me one way or the other. You have to.
Starting point is 02:17:31 The idea is that the only way to actually become neutral is that you were kind of leaning one way, but then you changed your mind to the other point of view. And then you hit that final one for the ten. Yeah. Because actually hitting zero is not... It doesn't make sense, really. ...believing it's you being wishy-washy. Okay. In which point your final decision is your final trip towards an ideology.
Starting point is 02:17:56 Right, right, right. Instead of the betrayal of your old ideology. It's really, really interesting. What happens in Walking Dead if you play it silent? I don't know. Who knows? No one knows. No one knows.
Starting point is 02:18:06 What does the silent walk through play Walking Dead to? Probably not much different because that game is fucking linear-ish. It's probably context. But it's probably bad in most cases. Probably. You probably end up with... There's some decisions. You probably end up with no friends and all enemies type of thing because you just don't take some.
Starting point is 02:18:22 I think you still got friends because that game is railroaded as shit, man. If you know, please write in. Well, sure. But at the same time, having entire characters that are not in this chapter because they're gone. It probably defaults to... It probably defaults to it being good with the decisions. You can't... It's not gonna end the same way.
Starting point is 02:18:41 You cannot play it 100% silent because there are points in which at the big choices, time stops until you make a decision. And those will always come back to you. You can never play it. You can never just fuck off and leave. Also, I'm thinking of in Wolf Among Us when you have to turn to go left or right and once you hit a direction and you look and see what's happening there, the timer counts down, but whatever you're on is where you're going. But before that, it's time to stop. There's definitely not enough games that make good into a bad thing. It is, like, not an easy thing.
Starting point is 02:19:20 Yeah, so that's probably my favorite thing about the SMT series is the quote-unquote good path is actually the fucking worst shit ever. And I also think too few games take personal relationships into account on a one-to-one basis where it's like you're bad to ex-people, thus why people think you're bad. Whereas if you're good to some people and if you're bad to some people, really those people should think you're good. What are some examples of that? I know Witcher does it. No, Alpha Protocol does it. Alpha Protocol does it. Alpha Protocol has no morality.
Starting point is 02:19:51 Oh, did you? No kidding. It was a good game. Busted as shit. Yeah, good job. We were called in to help. Yeah, I know. It was another obsidian project in which the publisher fucked up. It began, though. Fantastic game. It's fucked, though.
Starting point is 02:20:08 Gentlemen coats. Yeah? How is it going, gentlemen coats? Needs to know because of reasons. Does Mystique have a vagina? Yeah. They birthed a nightcrawler through it and fucked the devil with it. Pretty much. So yeah, it's confirmed.
Starting point is 02:20:22 But when she's blue, it's not there? It's there. Maybe it opens up more. He's talking about the movie version in which they covered the lady. She's wearing scales, basically. There's not an orifice in sight. But yeah, Mystique gets around. She's a sexy lady. She can shapeshift. It's useful.
Starting point is 02:20:40 But in her natural form, one would have to assume that that shit's there. No, it's just how it's there. No, it's just how it's there. She fucked the devil and gave birth to a nightcrawler. So even if she didn't have a vagina before, post-nightcrawler, she assuredly does. The devil made it. Quite a large one. He made it at home. He made it work.
Starting point is 02:21:01 George wants to know, how quickly can you guys say, Ora ora ora! Not as fast as I- Ora ora ora ora ora ora! That's pretty good. I can't do that. I always prefer muda. But I can't do it.
Starting point is 02:21:13 That was harder. That was harder. The problem with that with me is that it's a two-syllable word that is being pronounced as a single syllable. And I can't do that. That's why I can never say Ryu properly. Ryu. Or Mario. Ryu.
Starting point is 02:21:27 Mario. Mario. You fuck off. I hear enough of that shit from the girlfriend. Every time I do it. Mario. We'll be a normal person for fuck's sake. No!
Starting point is 02:21:36 If I be a normal person, my life is over. Don't put those filters up, man. Nobody's watching vids for calm. We'll adjust it normal, Pat. Alex wants to know, have you guys ever thought about starting a magazine or comic book? No. Print is dead, unfortunately. I was a kid.
Starting point is 02:21:55 I made a comic book. Yeah. It was called Sabotage. I never thought about it. Seriously, to the point of making money or putting money into it. But magazine, yeah, for sure. I'd like to work on a magazine. I worked on a graphic novel.
Starting point is 02:22:11 It failed. I used to be a big fan of Nintendo Power. I went Future Press, bought it up, and it went to complete shit. You bet your ass I was like, what would make it good again. When I was a kid, I always thought about that a lot. But of course it would never went anywhere. When I was a kid, I dreamed of working for EGM or Tips and Tricks or something. Yeah, because it seemed really fun at the time.
Starting point is 02:22:31 You could be friends with Shane Bedenhouse. You fuck off. And also Shane Bedenhouse would be fucked off. Honestly, I feel like if you're playing games and you have a creative type brain, you think about all that shit. You think about what if I'm told my own story in this medium or that medium or whatever. I remember... That's probably not the best one right now.
Starting point is 02:22:47 This has nothing to do with comics or magazines, but I just think they remember being a kid and going to the arcade and getting so fucking mad at Capcom because they stole my idea for an X-Men fighting game. Which I had obviously come up by myself years earlier and was like, they should make that. They should totally do that. Oh, they stole my idea because only I could come up with the idea for an X-Men fighting game. That happened to me this week, actually,
Starting point is 02:23:10 with a new anime that just came out called One Week Friends, where this guy wants to be friends with this girl and this girl's like, I can't be friends with you. I can't be friends with you. I can't do it. And it's revealed that every week she loses her memory and she only remembers stuff that she writes down in her journal, which is only implied by the opening. Well, I was about to say, you also hate memento.
Starting point is 02:23:34 So it's 40 days and nights? I gave in and submitted what is essentially memento to my English class in college. I've never seen or heard of memento and she gave me a zero. Yeah, because you stole it. You stole it. I had to argue tooth and nail that I don't know what memento was. I don't believe you, though. And even though it's a good movie, Liam now hates memento.
Starting point is 02:23:57 I don't actually hate it, but I always have that in my mind. That's a raw deal. I was so proud of it. I went back when the first MVC game came out. I thought it would be so cool if they had original characters that I drew a character, Jenny the Buccaneer, who was a pirate general. And one of her supers was bringing in her men carrying a giant boat that did a slam that hit me.
Starting point is 02:24:22 Fucking Ruby Hart. Right out of my brain. I have proof. You show it to me later. I have proof. This shit happens all the time. Yeah, well, I mean, like, an intrepid street fighter 2 artist drew Bullfighter and, like, you know, that went places.
Starting point is 02:24:36 I once had a really good thought. So you really got it back. I once had a really good idea that I like to see naked girls ride around on bikes and then that got turned into BMX. They stole it. They stole my idea. It could be a millionaire right now. That really went places, too.
Starting point is 02:24:53 That's such a stupid thing. Just, like, let's put naked girls on bicycles. I had two copies of that game. Stupid as shit ever. Thaddeus wants to know what attracts you to a particular kickstarter for an indie game? First thing is the name. Like, who's behind it, right? Yeah.
Starting point is 02:25:14 The second thing. Yeah, reputation. The second thing is, is this a thing that I've been screaming at that I want for 10 plus years? Right. And the third one is the actual content. Okay, for me, the trailer gameplay, gameplay, gameplay, gameplay, gameplay. Like, I will trust certain names, but holy shit, I need to see gameplay. I wish that I could be like that, but all the stuff that I've been begging to come back
Starting point is 02:25:37 is stuff that you would get gameplay like a year from now. Like, the old RPGs, right? It's like, once a project attorney got kickstarted, then like a while later we saw gameplay. Like, Wasteland got, like, I want to say like seven months in before we saw gameplay of it. Oh, like, the name is behind it for sure. Yeah. Like, Hyper Light Lyft or, oh, that trailer sold me fucking hard. But that's it, right?
Starting point is 02:26:00 Yeah, but like, also just the experience of the team because like, there's a lot of names you just never hear and they work in whatever fields and they may or may not be good at them. And like, recently there was one called Earthlock Festival of Magic and like, the assets and the art direction are so nice that I got to get behind that. And like, often the art direction is one of the big ones because there's so many independent games that are just void of art direction. Like, such and such programmer will come out and say, I'm making this cool turn-based tactics game where you play as squirrels in a park and you're completely void art direction
Starting point is 02:26:36 for totally valid design and programming and artistic capabilities. But I've seen too many games and worked on too many games where the original art direction and art itself were amazing and then not represented at all in the Final Fantasy. But like I said, for this game in particular, you can see it and it's tangible and that's what it is. And when I see that with Hyper Light Drifter, you look at it and you're like, this exists. Yeah, exactly. For me, yeah.
Starting point is 02:27:04 I agree that concept art isn't reflective of Final Fantasy. I think art direction is really, really important. Like, if it looks a certain way, like if it looks a little generic but its ideas good, I'm like, well, it has to do something for me visually. Not like how good it looks, but it has to look striking. The second is how far along it is. Like if it's like, yeah, we don't have anything. We just have concept art.
Starting point is 02:27:24 I'm like, yeah. That's the hardest one. That's really hard. The third one is, can I get Zubas into the thing? Because if you don't, then here's my dick. Fuck off the edge. That's a hard line to walk. I was going to build up.
Starting point is 02:27:40 But I was like, you know, because like for me, another little detail is like transparency. Yeah. How much of that funding are we seeing? And what are your stretch goals planned for? Just to make sense. But there's a little bit of a thing that I guess Matt and I do now, where we click on something that looks interesting, and the first thing we do is scroll to the highest one.
Starting point is 02:28:00 What's the highest? What is the highest goal in tune now? Yeah, I don't want to fly to have dinner with you. With Shaq? No. What a waste of time that is. You get to design a... But like, personality and art design goes a long way.
Starting point is 02:28:17 And that's why for like Barclay 2, I was so willing to jump in on that one. And like... That's why Hyper Light Drifter, despite not really having games behind it. Hyper Light Drifter, I wouldn't even say it was like the trailer or the gameplay. And it's definitely not the pedigree, because I think that it's a new studio or a new guy. I would describe it as something like vague and useless, like there's a spark there. Art direction. No, but not even like just like...
Starting point is 02:28:42 I saw it and like... It's like a combination of a lot of stuff. The feel of Hyper Light Drifter. Hyper Light Drifter. I can feel it existing. Yeah, and that's because it's a combination of a lot of stuff. It's also because it's so visually striking, I don't care what platform it's on. Right.
Starting point is 02:28:55 One really good example that I just thought of by the way, for like where I'll take development experience and not necessarily names over stuff, was Wildman. Where like, those guys made a lot of really good games. I like the Wildman Kickstarter more than I like the game. But like, that was an instance where I looked at it and I'm like... I know what you mean! I know what you mean! Yeah, but like they made a lot of quality stuff, so I was able to get behind that without like
Starting point is 02:29:22 the big names. You know, it didn't have to be in a fune, and the art didn't have to be perfect because I looked at it and I'm like their core gameplay for all their other stuff is so great. Also, while we're talking about Wildman though, not to dredge up old wounds, but making that video where like you're like, yeah, we just... the guys clearly visually distraught and stuff. I was just like, oh, like, is that the right thing to put out? It's a hard call, isn't it? Why put that?
Starting point is 02:29:53 I don't know. I don't think you should. I don't know. It's like, that's a rough thing, man. Maybe people will look and say, hey, we can help them out, but other times it's like... In all fairness, you was in a tough position because that one was the Kickstarter for the odd man company that didn't work, unlike Chris Avalon and stuff where they pulled it through. That was the one that didn't work, and that was a big company that went down.
Starting point is 02:30:16 The guys second up, they used basically crying. Well, yeah, because like tons of people losing jobs, and he has to deliver the news. Sucks. Like even Matt wouldn't like doing that. Yeah, firing people sucks, apparently. I'm only three not best friends. William, you're fired. Oh, that felt bad.
Starting point is 02:30:33 You're hired. Thanks, man. You're grounded, though. Ah, shit. I'm sure that felt good, too. You can totally ground it. It felt really good grounding you. I'm never going to get out of this.
Starting point is 02:30:43 And you're grounded, and you can't play with your little girl dolls. No. Fuck. Why are you mad, William? Because he got grounded coming on. Because you supply the girl doll? It was good. Because we're at an exciting part of the story.
Starting point is 02:30:59 They are just fucking jump on, put Patreon or whatever, and use Patreon. Patreon, yeah. Patreon? I don't know. Vladi Vidya has been using that lately. As has, I keep saying it, but smooth the groove. Smooth the groove, big man. I love how you can't see it, but he's just making a big beard motion.
Starting point is 02:31:19 And all of us is going, yep, yep, yep. Twin Beards. Twin Beards is my first thought, actually. Musical Jesus. Chris Dofferson says, hey, Zybatzi. Hey, Dofferson. I was playing some Turok, too. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:31:34 What was it like being in Blade? Was it the Game Boy version? It was bad. It was too much. I was marveled at how distinct, I marveled at how distinct and put together the level design one. Yeah. Even for such an early 3D game. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:31:46 Just wondering what you guys think has some of the best levels or level themes. Let's go 3D worlds, because 2D you can do a lot with and we've been through a lot, but 3D level design. Can I just cheat? Can I just cheat right away and say an answer that I've said a million times? Sure. Dark Souls 1. The honeycomb level structure. Yeah, absolutely.
Starting point is 02:32:05 Where everything loops back on itself. I was going to say Dark Souls 2, where exactly you do this giant fucking roundabout and then the wall breaks and you're like, oh shit, that's where I was at the origin of my thing. This is going to make shit wait. Now I can continue. That's really good. Was it visual level design? I thought that was what he was saying. Good level design.
Starting point is 02:32:23 Solid level design. Throw in visuals and just structure. You know what? I will give it up for the cool parts visually of DMC. You know? Sure. I'll give it up for those. That Virgil mobile sequence is okay.
Starting point is 02:32:39 No, there's only two parts that come to mind. The club and the Fox News thing. Yeah. Those are cool looking. Everything else, fuck it. Ninja Gaiden for the Xbox. It has a really good level design in that it's like super open on a certain point. I was really shocked when I played it that that's what it was.
Starting point is 02:32:56 Because at the beginning it's totally not like that. Yeah. DMC one is so good. Oh man. I was going to say though. Not when the camera is fucking holding you back. No, but the level. The level, man.
Starting point is 02:33:06 It's like an old residential game. It's so fucking rad. Yes, man. I was going to say that that guy's example is like for the N64. Yeah. Turok is like five giant worlds that are all very distinct. Yeah. They kind of got around like, you know, whatever.
Starting point is 02:33:20 But I was going to say Mario Galaxy and all its spherical. Oh yeah. It was like a level game changer. Totally a game changer. Yeah. Like just jumping around to different ideas rather than worlds. And tapping into Le Petit Perrinus, which was like really. Oh, right.
Starting point is 02:33:36 To that end, Super Mario Bros. 3, which didn't just go Fireworld, Waterworld, X, Y, Z. Oh yeah. Okay. Well, 2D stuff. Big world, Skyworld. Like it had fun with it ahead of the time. Sure. And the big world in particular.
Starting point is 02:33:49 I really like that. Everyone loves the big world. If we're going to talk about 2D stuff, I'm going to mention Mega Man Zero. I really liked how it was all Mega Man levels. And when you teleported to go fight the boss, it puts you at the front of an area. But you could just run back and you're in the other guy's stage. And the whole world was a giant connected map. Almost every Metroidvania.
Starting point is 02:34:09 Well, that's, yeah. It's a given. Yeah, you'll see. That's weird. The level is the character. Matt's talking about Mario Galaxy and you're talking about the Metroidvanias. But those games are the levels. There's nothing that's not the stage.
Starting point is 02:34:22 Better nail it. Yeah. But they did. Oh, they did. It'd be funny if we would just call Man of Sassus Creed 1. Just kind of shit. Oh, getting those flags. The different colors of each one.
Starting point is 02:34:33 And it being just the same is just awesome. Just that grid of houses in the acre like texture. And someone will stab us if we don't say Deus Ex 1. Twilight Princess. That shit's great. Twilight Princess had a lot of like varied level designs. Especially the Arctic one. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:34:53 The Snow Peak Temple. The one the game trailers did the fucking level thing on. Yeah. It's fucking amazing. But like it did a lot of interesting things with all the different ones. Where like the desert, instead of just being generic sand, was like big cracked race land with the Moblin camp. You're right.
Starting point is 02:35:08 You're right. They stepped up a lot of what is originally like flat desert level. They took the tropes and they made them interesting. And I think the least interesting one was the Gorn Mountain. Yeah, absolutely. Because what the fuck ever. Even the forest, they kind of made it feel fresh. It was weird.
Starting point is 02:35:23 It was like a weird alternate dark forest. Yeah. And like I think Twilight Princess actually has a lot of really good art design as far as that goes. And I think the art design combined with the level design is really on show when you're fighting Zant. Yeah. In particular.
Starting point is 02:35:35 Oh yeah. That show is awesome. Yes, yes. Yeah. That one's a good one. Zant got robbed. Just like Taker. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:35:43 Anything else? God, I feel like we're forgetting a billion levels. Dude, we're forgetting a billion levels. Yeah. Yeah. There's a million. It's not fair. Which one?
Starting point is 02:35:51 No, we're just forgetting one, man. Oh, she's the big shell. Oh, she's so memorable. It's more telling which ones who jump into our brains instantly. R4. Go to Stripe. And lay their own lock to Stripe. Stripe.
Starting point is 02:36:01 Don't you get it, man? It's about the compartmentalization of information, man. No, it's not. No, it's not. R4, though. R4 is great. Every individual area is so meticulously crafted. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:36:12 That's true. Yeah. That's true. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's true.
Starting point is 02:36:20 That's true. So good. You go into the church. You drop that ladder. Or not. Yeah. You do whatever you want. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:36:28 That's true. That's so good. Yeah. We got another question? Not really. Not really. Is our mailbox empty at zero? No, I'm just going to...
Starting point is 02:36:36 No, I'm just going to... He's just skimming over the shit questions. I'm keeping an eye on the time. What... It takes a while. What are we putting on the watch this week? I have signed upon the watch. Fucking Bro Force.
Starting point is 02:36:48 Yo. You know, are you familiar with Bro Force? Yeah. What does it remind me? Because I did just hear about it. What is it again? It's a pixel art style and you control like 80s action stars. Yes.
Starting point is 02:36:59 Yes. Yes. I played a couple of hours of it today. It is fucking radical. It is like... It's the other thing that's not Mercenary Kings. Yeah. It's very different because it's a straight running gun.
Starting point is 02:37:09 Which we all would have loved to play if you brought it up, might I say. We can still play it. But just putting it out there. I was playing it and you were online playing it. And I'm like, boy, I hope he invites me. Because I never invite anyone to online games. No. And he didn't.
Starting point is 02:37:26 Hey, shut up guys. I was sitting there going, I want to do a thing. I want to do this thing. We all love Drunk. We're drunk. I was not drunk. Uncracked. If I was drunk, it would have been easier.
Starting point is 02:37:35 It would have been a better video. It probably would have. Hey, that's mean. I've heard feelings. But Bro Force was like, you take Schwarzenegger, he shoots only rockets. You take John McClane and he shoots machine guns and throws broken bottles. Then you get Blade and he's melee only. And you get Neo.
Starting point is 02:37:53 You get Neo and you can dodge. It's fucking crazy. Where's Bro Force? Because I've never even heard of it. Sorry? Where is it? It's on the PC. On the PC?
Starting point is 02:38:02 Yeah, it's super good. That's pretty good. Man, all I'm going to do this week is go back in time and play Final Fantasy X some more. And be like, hey man. No, enjoy it. Absolutely. I bought a PS2 for that game. Like, that was the one.
Starting point is 02:38:13 For good reason. Yeah. I mentioned it earlier, but I'm watching EarthLock Festival of Magic, which as its kickstarter coming up, ending in four days. It's for Wii U, PS4, Xbox One and PC. For everything. And it's a JRPG. And the production values are pretty fucking high for an indie group.
Starting point is 02:38:32 And it looks good. And like, there's not much else to it. Like, damn, it just looks good. There's no highs on it. What about you, Wolves? What are you watching? I guess... I'll put V on the watch.
Starting point is 02:38:44 Because I stopped by there and I was talking to some dudes on V. And that's where I happen to scroll across and see the WebM thread. Right. V seems to be like the mecha of WebM right now. It's like, that's where it's at because it's in the air, right? All 4Chan boards have a WebM thread right now. But like, I just happen to see the two at the same time. Like, there's a thread about us.
Starting point is 02:39:04 And I was like, I'll talk to some dudes. And then saw that fucking thread. And my eyes just fucking blasted open. Sure. That's that, I guess. So what's coming up on the channel, Wolves? What is coming up on the channel? More Nuzlocke.
Starting point is 02:39:18 We say this every week. But we're so close to finishing Yakuza. Yakuza, we got one left. We got one session of recording left. Okay, fair enough. Like, I can feel it in my fucking bones that we have one to go. I hope you're at the halfway twist. No.
Starting point is 02:39:34 I'm sorry, I forgot what type Q bone was. There's more Nuzlocke coming up because you guys have more Nuzlocke. The streak continues. We may be one recording session away from finishing. Yeah, we know. Find out next time on Nuzlocke. Is that special thing gonna be good to go this week? This week, towards the end of the week, look forward to a brand new show.
Starting point is 02:39:58 A special thing. A special thing. If you hate it, please don't tell us. But, you know, like I said, with us phasing out the mailbag, we've got new stuff in the works. One of those things you'll be seeing this week. Speaking of, we will be mopping up the remaining editing duties on the mailbag and trying to get those out as fast as possible.
Starting point is 02:40:17 We are now back to being weeks behind because the shit just takes so long to edit and open. And for what it's worth, we should also clearly put out to people that... The mailbag's over. Even though it's over, there's probably another eight episodes coming. Yeah. Okay, wait, wait, wait. We put up 11c just a couple minutes ago.
Starting point is 02:40:37 Yes. There's 11d, 12abnc. No, 12 is one part. 12 is one part? Yeah. Okay. And how long is it? It's an hour long.
Starting point is 02:40:47 Oh, it's an hour long. Okay. Is 13 even been cut up yet? 13? I haven't even looked at it yet. But it's gonna cut into pieces. And it'll be cut into... It'll be cut into...
Starting point is 02:40:57 Yeah. Up to five pieces. So even though the mailbag's over, the group isn't recovering. It'll actually take like a month for the mailbag to actually end. Because the nature of it, we have to let the news out now. Yes, that's it. That's it. You stop, gap the hole, and you let...
Starting point is 02:41:13 You try to get the water out as you flush it. Mailbag. In case our rambling was too much. Nozlock. Yeah, cause a new show this is the end of the week. And more mailbag. More mailbag forever and always. And then we'll have another podcast next week on Today.
Starting point is 02:41:26 Really? Yeah. Wow. That's really regular. Also, wooly. Fucking Full Gore on Wednesday. Full Gore. Storyboard.
Starting point is 02:41:34 Yep, that shit's hype. We gotta check that out. Strikes to the zero tomorrow. No cares. What's that on? No cares. What you looking for today? Strikes to the zeroes on what?
Starting point is 02:41:42 No, that looks amazing. The new one, the new version of it on Xbox One. It's coming out on the top of consoles. I think I already own that. But fuck it. I'll buy it again. Fuck it. High-speed Roboto action.
Starting point is 02:41:52 Roboto. And I was gonna say, oh yeah, just a little like whatever note. We hit three million downloads. The podcast? Yeah. Yay. Yay. Thanks guys for this thing.
Starting point is 02:42:07 Good work, Matt. You're welcome. Yeah. See you next week, everybody. All right. Bye. Thank you. I was gonna say a thing.
Starting point is 02:42:17 I'll say it though. It's too late. No, it's too late. Fuckin' say it. Don't be a joke. You're backing down so hard. Don't do it. You're backing down so hard.
Starting point is 02:42:52 Fuck it. Fuck it. Fuck it. Fuck it. Fuck it. Fuck it. Fuck it. Fuck it.
Starting point is 02:43:51 Fuck it. Fuck it. Fuck it. Fuck it. Fuck it. Fuck it. Fuck it. Fuck it.
Starting point is 02:44:56 Fuck it. Fuck it. Fuck it. Fuck it. Fuck it.

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