Castle Super Beast - SBFC 036: The Atomic Purple House
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How was your fridge, Liam?
My fridge, a little while ago, was beeping at me.
Okay, but the beeping how?
Like, in just like, phone beeping system?
Just one beep.
I'm about to explode.
Just like a raw tone?
Yeah.
Raw tone?
Yeah, a raw tone.
Exactly.
A perfect pitch, if you will.
That's upsetting.
Yeah.
So my freezer was beeping, and I was shoving my face all over the fridge, like, where's
this coming from?
Is that beeping, or is it screaming?
You're right.
It's screaming a beep, right?
And I opened it up eventually, because I'm like, what the fuck did I freeze?
And nothing.
It just stopped taking sense.
It just stops.
And this doesn't come back until six months later.
That's really unsettling.
Yeah.
And then six months later, it starts in the middle of the night, and I fucking bolt to the freezer,
and there's, again, there's just chicken in there.
There's fucking nothing.
They miss me.
It was the chicken.
It was the chicken.
Maybe it was the chicken.
I don't even know.
My fridge was beeping at me, and I want to know why.
You never found out.
I never found out.
See, that's really worrying.
It might be doing it right now.
There are, like, heat gathering components in a fridge, that you would imagine have some
point of failure, and that there would be some way to warn you.
And the beep makes sense.
But no one knows what those are, because it never happened.
Exactly.
And my mom told me about when our fridge busted down, and, like, there's super toxic gases
that go through the back.
Oh, absolutely.
Yeah.
And they still do that?
No, it's there.
And when it breaks, you hear, like, the sound of gas leaking, and you need to get the fuck
out if you do.
Yeah.
So, like, fridges can kill you.
Yeah.
No, I've got a carbon monoxide thingy thingy.
That'll save me.
Your fridge can kill you.
Your oven can kill you.
Your dishwasher's fine, though.
Nothing your dishwasher can do can hurt you.
It can burn you.
Like, you can open it up, and, like, you broke a pipe or something, and it can spray you
with, like, boiling hot water.
That's probably your mistake, though.
What if one of those, like, sudblades comes flying out of sudblades?
Sudblades?
You know?
Yeah, they're like helicopter blades.
They're basically like helicopter blades.
We made that shit up just now.
Actually, it's dangerous.
It is.
It's a hazard.
Final destination shit.
You never know.
Never look inside a washing machine.
Don't do it.
I remember when I was a kid, I kept trying to catch it, because, like, why would you
try to catch that?
It's a helicopter blade.
No, but in, like, in the commercials, you get to see the dishwasher from the inside.
Yeah.
So I'd be like, I'd pull it open, like, oh, and then I would close it and not tell my
mom.
Oh, yeah.
And then the dishes would just not be done.
It should be confused.
Patrick, did you stop the dishwasher?
No.
No, I would never do that.
Okay.
You want to see how cool it looks inside.
That's funny.
You wanted to catch it working.
That's the impetus for a lot of things in our lives.
I just wanted to see how cool it was inside.
I bet you if you're rich enough, you can buy a transparent dishwasher.
Oh, man.
Well, maybe one day, once the Saibatsu grows, I can get a transparent dishwasher, just
like I always wanted.
I want my house in atomic purple.
Oh, my God.
You can be just best except for your roommate.
You don't have to actually, like, be rich.
You just need to be an asshole with a paintbrush to do that.
But no, I need transparent, I need to see through everything.
Oh, you're nuts.
Like the Game Boy.
Yeah.
How would you get an insulation?
Play it loud.
Yeah.
You wouldn't need it.
I want my life played loud.
That's how I want it.
24-7.
But people could see you.
And I can see them.
No, that's...
It's a fair exchange.
Then you can't just walk around with no clothes on because people would be like, look.
Hey, I mean, he's a looker.
You know, he can do anything.
It's horrible in there.
I'm in my own home.
If you decide to peer in to my conveniently transparent, purple-tinted house...
On the third story of this building.
Then so be it.
Yeah.
Get what you look for.
Totally earned.
Anyway.
Episode...
36.
36.
Someone's staring in my window and watching me change.
Yes.
Oh, shit, you're right.
That reminds me, when I moved into the place I live now and I moved in, I had no blinds
or curtains of any kind.
But I live like relatively high and often my bed would be right next to it, so I'd just
get changed right in front of the window, only much later realizing that there are like
three blocks in a different direction.
There's totally a high rise that if you had a binoculars or a telescope, it's like, hi.
Everyone wants to see that.
What's going on?
At work the other day, I was over at a certain lead packaging programmers desk.
It was actually a few months ago.
Then I peered out the window because I was fucking bored and there was a guy changing
across the road in his apartment.
I saw everything and I'm just like...
You saw it all.
There you go.
You see everything.
I wish I could tell this guy.
You know what you should do, right?
Because the whole studio is watching him now.
You should just say, yo, dude, I can see your dick.
But there was two massive windows in the light.
The shiny laser item.
Shiny laser.
I like the bits.
Highlight the bits.
Yep.
Yeah, I should have.
I want you to give him a nice thumbs up so you know that it's friendly.
Yeah.
And then the next time around, you know exactly what time.
Same bad channel.
You know?
Yeah, I try.
Tune in.
That's horrible.
Oh, I'd feel so bad.
Oh, I felt terrible for him.
I was just like, man, how could I tell him?
I can't.
Well, maybe he listens to this podcast.
Maybe.
Sorry, guy.
This week, I'm trying out something we got in the mail just now.
The mailbag, which is now over.
The mailbag is over.
Super over.
We even recorded the last one we'll ever record.
Totally.
Something that came in after the date was from Australia.
I just want to ask before you try to pronounce that, do you have that rule where you don't
eat anything you can't pronounce?
Is that a rule?
I have literally never heard of this rule.
I just so rarely see things that you can barely pronounce.
Dude, you bring the weirdest shit sometimes.
There are too many things in my life that I can't pronounce to deny myself all of them.
Yeah, like soda crackers.
Like soda crackers.
Hey, you did it this time.
Wait, what?
So anyway, to rectify the mistake that was getting sent a can of Fosters last time,
we received from Australia what's being called...
Our local jailhouse bros.
Yes, we received what's being called true beers.
True beers from Australia.
So we got some Napstein Enterprise Brewery Napstein and I'm giving some of this a shot.
It's not too bad.
It's a lager.
It's kind of light.
It's got way less of an awful fucking aftertaste than Fosters.
It's not even fair though.
Fosters felt like...
Drinking Fosters felt like it was engineered to taste poorly.
Right.
Like it almost had this like not like similar in taste to Buckleys, but like almost similar
in like a pure, like not a parent, like theme.
It's the Buckleys.
So like, are you saying they kept sending it back?
Like the testers would get it and take a sip and they'd be like, I'm utterly convinced
that the advertising department of Buckleys convinced the products side of Buckleys to
make it taste bad to work with their advertising.
So Fosters is horrible, but it probably gets you a really sick buzz.
Right.
It fucks you apart.
It's like, all energy drinks have to have that weird medicine, metallicy taste, or else
it feels like they're not working because Red Bull tasted like that and Red Bull was
the only one for so long.
So yeah, I just downed this and it totally worked out.
And I'm going to crack open the Little Creatures Pale Ale that we got for the two guys.
That is like one of them old-timey baby bottles.
Old-timey bottles.
Like if it was a little bit bigger, this could have been a 40, you know what I mean?
But it's tiny.
It is.
And I...
Don't crack it right over the laptop.
Yeah, crack it right over the laptop.
I just wanted to get that sound in there, no worries.
Just as the podcast ends suddenly halfway.
Oh, and I got to thank our friend in the 101st Airborne for sending this cool mug.
It is a nice mug.
It is iced and...
Ready to go.
Yeah, I'll try some of this out.
Your pat drinks straight from the bottle.
Ah, man.
Good.
You're already drinking straight from the bottle though.
I was drinking water, man.
All right.
You need a fucking break.
Little Creatures Pale Ale.
Wow, you gave yourself a lot of head on that.
How's the legs?
No legs on beer, Liam.
Oh, this is...
Hey, why?
It's gonna be fun if you talk to me about it.
This is really good.
I'll hand me the bottle.
I'll take some of this from the bottle.
Yeah, I like this a lot.
No uncle Pat.
It smells like beer.
Actually, it smells like old beer.
Like smelling this bottle actually makes it smell like a bottle that's been completely
finished and like left down the street for a little while.
Dude, you're so right.
Right?
Yeah.
The Napstein was pretty good, but this is great.
This is really good.
I like this a lot.
Well, give me a sip.
No, no, Liam.
You're not a bitch.
I don't like drink-drink, but I'll have a sip.
You know, it's got a nice, got a ready aftertaste.
I like it.
Wow, yeah, this is the best beer I've ever had.
It's really not bad.
Yeah, it's really good.
It's got a good head.
It's got a good, like, strong, immediate flavor, and it doesn't burn its way out on its way
down the throat.
It's the only one that I've had.
I might have a second sip of.
I'm not gonna, but I might.
Yeah, I'm not gonna finish this, but I'm very glad that I tasted it.
Here you go.
You continue to get sloshed on this podcast.
No worries, man.
It's the quality production that we put out every week.
And I'm looking at it because I feel like there's a bit of a, like, almost like an apricot,
like, or something that is extra mixed in with this.
I don't know, man.
It's all the hops.
Maybe.
Maybe.
But yeah, that's some good stuff.
I love video games.
Little creatures.
That's not bad.
Fantastic.
Video games are great.
Let's talk about them.
No, let's not talk about them.
No, let's not talk about video games.
First, let's talk about our week.
How was your week, Liam?
My week.
It was good.
I think I've mostly laced around, to be honest.
You know, that's what I do.
That's what you do.
I played, fuck, what was the game?
J-Stars.
J-Stars, Victory vs.
Yeah.
And Project Eva F-Second, which I got in the mail.
So Project Eva F-Second is, like, really great following the series normally.
You know, it's a rhythm game.
There's nothing special about it, just like the last one.
And it rehashes a ton of songs from the old ones.
Energetic is the little girl dance.
The most energetic it's ever been.
Barring one song.
I just wanted to ask that question.
Third one.
Would you like to watch it?
No.
Would you like to watch me watch it?
Mmmmmm.
Is she really good?
Is she doing like the flips and cartwheels and like losing her shape?
Of course.
Nice.
Only occasionally though.
Sometimes it's sad.
There's too much in this one.
Yo.
She was in the last one.
Like, you can't just keep bringing him back.
You can?
But it's great.
It comes up...
Sorry, it's Biggie's turn now.
You turned into a little girl hologram.
It comes out in fall in North America.
Do they have like famous dance sequences, like Hatsune Miku dance and stuff like that?
In these things?
In the sense of like Gangnam style?
Like where it like takes off?
Like, yeah.
Do they have like little like...
No.
Oh, look.
Look, she's...
Like this is her trademark thing?
Yeah.
Um, no.
What am I thinking of?
Like, okay.
Like, you know how Suzumi Ahari had her like dance?
Oh, the dance that took off?
Yeah.
Do they have like little like...
Oh, okay.
You know what this little sequence is?
Moments?
I don't...
I...
Not...
To my knowledge, there hasn't ever been one as popular as Harahara Yukai.
Um...
But like...
Which one is that, dude?
That's the Harahara Yukai.
Yeah, exactly.
Do you remember when that fucking...
Where was it?
Malaysia?
Or Thailand?
That prison guy?
The Warden?
Yeah.
Absolutely.
Who made the prisoners dance to that?
What?
No?
They're super well synchronized.
I never saw that.
Okay, so there was a forum that you and I used to go to and that dude was way into all
that stuff and he made a topic saying, hey guys, what dumb anime dances do you want my
uncle, who is the Warden of this jail in Malaysia, to convince the prisoners to do?
Huge!
You can probably go and find them on YouTube.
It's just like...
It's on YouTube.
Hundreds and hundreds of really hard-looking, like Southeast Asian dudes in orange jumpsuits
wearing wigs and doing anime dances.
It's super weird.
It's great.
It's super weird.
They dress them up?
Not really.
Well, we wigs and you know...
Just a few odd wigs.
But they're still funny.
They're still jumpsuits.
Yeah.
They're still prisoners, clearly.
Fuck.
Like Bond villains and waiting.
I know.
You gotta do something in Super Jail.
Yeah.
Exactly.
Yeah.
Keep busy.
Anyway, games are really good.
Comes out in Fall in North America.
I wish that would have been announced before I ordered it.
But hey...
How many fucks...
Stop supporting the official release, man.
Dude, the next one, I'm not.
The next one, I'm waiting for the American one.
You got fucked on Dragon Guard and you got fucked on this.
Because I didn't think Dragon Guard 3 was gonna come over.
My endless optimism falls through.
How many characters are in Victory Versus?
40 more than there need to be.
Don't wanna spit out the bullies.
It's all as good as Aircast Arena.
That's pretty solid.
Why do you say this, Liam?
Because it's an unbalanced fucking mess.
Really?
And characters...
Really?
Really?
That game series is an unbalanced mess.
Yeah, it's an unbalanced mess.
And the characters have move sets like that you could fit on a single sheet of Loosley.
But Liam, I would challenge you to say that unbalanced mess is now a genre.
Well, exactly.
I talked to you about this.
A game.
That's right.
What I wanna say is it is, however, the best unbalanced 3D anime brawler I've ever played.
It's a really specific subgenre.
But there's a lot of them.
There's a whole lot of them.
And there are multiple that come out every year.
Every licensed fighter type game from an anime that doesn't know what the fuck it's doing.
Exactly.
Is totally a mess.
This is the best one.
There was, oh god, there was that Bleach game on the DS.
The DS.
And that game was exclusive.
Soul Keep the Soul?
Soul Something.
And that game was notable because they balanced the game around storyline power levels.
Exactly.
And it was so baffling.
It's absurd.
The main character is the best character.
Untouchable.
It's like, who would play this?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
But why would you play it?
Imagine playing a Dragon Ball game or that?
They have, in Budokai 3, I think, they had storylines level versions in a mode.
But then you go to Versus mode and you play as everybody.
Then why not play as anybody other than Goku, Mystic Gohan, or Broly?
No, I'm going to be a Cyberman and see what the ending is.
Boo with a Cyberman.
Boo with a Cyberman, why not.
But what I really like about it is it really has fucking everything.
So I went in there and what I want to play is Toriko.
And then after a little while, I was like, fuck Toriko, I can play as Kenshiro and I never stopped.
Okay.
And I can play as Mr. Hakusho after, or I can just switch to fucking Joestar.
And while you're playing as Kenshiro, what music can you play?
Any song.
Any opening theme.
All of them?
Name one.
I don't know.
From JoJo.
It's in there.
It's in there.
Okay, then I'm good.
That's the only one you need.
Stand proud!
Stand proud!
Stand proud!
Not in there!
I wish it was.
Hold that shit.
Hold that shit.
We're gonna come back to stand proud.
That game's a lot of fun.
If you want a shitty 3D anime brawler with a ton of fan service, this is exactly what you want.
That is the...
I know.
It's just a recommendation that includes the word if you want a shitty...
But every fucking year, tons of people go out and buy the Dragon Ball Z games.
You know what, man?
And this is better than that.
You know, it's all like unbalanced mess.
It'll still appeal to like your fanboy...
Yeah.
What?
It's all the nods and the dimes and...
Exactly.
And like, if you don't mind me just tag TV in there.
I'm gonna say that, like, I will throw JoJo All Star Battle into that.
Yeah.
Like, because, you know, the new demo came out.
And like, obviously you can't tell what the changes were like from a demo.
They fixed a ton of stuff.
They fixed a ton of stuff.
Many of our original complaints.
Not just the ones that were fabricated and not real when we made them.
The one.
But ones that actually existed have been fixed.
But it's still just...
It's still an unbalanced mess.
Yeah.
But it totally hits that all the fanboy in me is feeling good about what I see.
Except for, oh, I can't wait to play the one of the heroes of Part 3, Jean-Pierre Eiffel.
Or...
Yeah.
Or...
I don't think it's that...
It hasn't been that bad so far, but we'll see.
It's gotta be that bad.
No, that's the guy's name.
Did you read the names?
Like, the names are Butcher.
Like...
Yeah.
They had to, but boy, they Butcher on it.
But just pretend.
It's okay, because we know.
Just pretend.
Anyway.
Otherwise, new anime started this season.
I got a lot of...
Do you have a list, Slim?
I have a list.
Brought the list.
He did homework.
I watched ten different shows.
Rainbow.
I'm gonna just go over the five that I thought were the best.
I haven't watched everything.
They can't all be worth talking about.
I'm trying to cover all my bases here, because I get shit from everyone.
Because you're not a real anime fan.
The people who are elitists.
Yeah.
The people who are the opposite of elitists.
Yeah.
So these are the five that I watched.
All I will say is try and keep it concise.
Yeah.
While proving that your taste is not shit.
There are five that I watched that I'm gonna watch a second episode of.
So there was Black Bullet, which is just like a fun...
Like, oh, there's creatures in this earth and we can't fight the creatures.
But oh, we have a way to fight the creatures now ten years later.
Yeah.
And half of humanity's wiped out.
We gotta fight them.
So there's a new shonen rip-off type of attack attack.
Yeah.
So they locked themselves in their Neo Tokyo.
Straight up Neo Tokyo?
I believe so.
I can't remember exactly.
Good.
It's been a little bit.
Or Tokyo Toe or whatever you want.
It's fun and it's well constructed and it doesn't feel like shit.
Like it wasn't slapped together or anything.
Sure.
Like there was thought put into it.
And it did something I really liked where most of these enemies opened with the exposition
of like 20 years ago they came.
Yeah.
You know?
And here it started with like a flashback sequence and it went through an episode of
like, hey, this is what goes on.
And at the end they did exposition.
But since they had already shown and not told in how the main characters had to fight the
creatures with a specific weapon and what have you, they didn't have to put that in the
exposition at the end.
So the exposition at the end was very short and it was just like we surrounded our city
with these monoliths that they can't come through and you know, like that was it.
Yeah.
The exposition.
20 years ago they came.
Just from what you just said, like boy does that sound like attack on people.
I was about to say.
The monoliths.
They came and humanity was received a cruel reminder.
That sounds like the literal same formula.
Yeah.
Maybe.
But like, you know, it's similar.
I'm not going to deny it.
Do they ever have, does anime, because again, obviously since I'm not keeping up with it
from season to season, do they ever have things where they're like something comes out, does
pretty well and the ripoff hits next season?
You know, like, because I expect maybe a year to develop that and budget it, but does it
ever hit like within months?
I want to say so, but it's hard to tell because, I mean, I know video games really well as
far as development goes, as far as anime like pre-production goes.
I don't really know.
I bet the turnaround time is pretty fast, especially if the thing you're going to rip
off is already a successful man.
Yeah.
Because you're already looking to see, you already know, like, let's take attack on Titan,
right?
You're already like, we could rip off attack on Titan, like, yeah, if the first six episodes
do well.
Yeah.
And then as soon as the first six episodes do well, or the first blueberry set, you're
like, okay, start ripping it off.
Yeah.
I don't know.
I don't want to call anything a ripoff because I just don't know the turnaround.
But I bet that because the reason I say that is because recently Kill the Kill was finished
like to the wire.
Yeah.
So they were clearly churning those out like super fast.
Yeah, exactly.
Other one, Hitsugi no Chika, which is about a girl who carries around a fucking, what
are those boxes you put people in the ground in?
Coffin.
Coffin.
So it's basically like...
Wow, you're really moving.
Chika's Coffin.
Chika's Coffin.
That's something like that.
So it's basically like Django if Django was a little anime girl.
Okay.
And there's no KKK.
Instead, she's just collecting 12 MacGuffins.
Django Unchained.
No, Django.
Original Django.
Where he has the Coffin.
Good shit.
Okay.
Because Django Unchained doesn't have a Coffin.
No, that's why I wanted to make sure you were specifying.
Yeah.
No, exactly.
So she meets some trophy characters and they go collect 12 MacGuffins.
But it seems like it might be interesting.
Like the first episode wasn't terrible, so I'm going to put it in the might be cool category
more style.
Moe.
Can I ask you a little bit?
It's important to distinguish.
How much of the stuff that comes out could be described as it's just like this except
with a little anime girl.
What's going on in this?
It's true, right?
Because I've heard you say that face.
Lucky star.
It's just like Seinfeld with little anime girls.
Well, that sounds like a good idea.
That's all right.
Yeah, exactly.
The one about the girl with the Coffin.
Not the Coffin, the digger, the grave digger girl.
Oh yeah.
Which is almost exactly what you're describing right now.
Except she didn't have to collect 12 MacGuffins.
No.
But still, Coffin or the grave digger, whatever.
Yeah.
So she goes around with her trophy fighting characters who fight characters and her brother
and sister and whatever.
Season 3 is going to be a fighting tournament?
Dude, I don't know man.
Season 3 is going to be the quest for the real big battle.
It was entertaining enough that I'll watch the second episode.
Mahaka Koko no Rettose, which is like magic school, some bullshit.
Thank you.
So, holy shit, the main character is a Mary Sue.
Like, Kirito levels of Mary Sue.
That's really bad.
It's just like, when you're writing this, you fucking know this is a Mary Sue.
You can't not know.
You know you made a bad character.
Why'd you do it like this?
And it's got that thing where people defend it.
Like, oh, he's got this one.
Wait, this is one of the ones you say is worth watching?
Yeah, because it was entertaining.
Okay.
But not everything is 100% Pat.
Yeah, okay.
So, but he's got that one thing that people always defend where it's like, oh, but he's
got this one glaring weakness.
No, that's a Mary Sue.
All Mary Sue's have one glaring weakness.
And this guy's glaring weakness is that he's no good at magic, which is the crux of this
is they use magic through electronics.
So, he's Rock-A-Lea.
Okay.
Yeah.
And he's amazing at melee fighting.
Oh, jeez.
Oh, jeez.
And so, like, there's a whole classist thing where the people who are good at magic in
the school are like, hey, you non-good at magics or shit.
And then, like, he gets put in charge of policing them.
So it's kind of entertaining in that sense where, like, I want to see that righteous
vindication go down.
I have so much trouble not running off, like, the whole genre.
What's the example of a good Mary Sue?
A good Mary Sue?
No.
Gwen Stacy, because she dies.
Curb your enthusiasm.
That is a good Mary Sue.
Larry.
Larry?
Larry, Mary, suing himself into the story.
Kind of an interesting situation.
Yeah.
That's an example of a good one.
You, as a real-life person, are interesting enough that fiction with you inserted into
it is also interesting.
So the former two are in the might-be-cool category.
This one is in the might-be-incest category.
Oh, dear.
Because he and his sister seem like there's a mutual thing going on.
So, Liam.
And I'm not into that, but that's a category.
You and I and Woolly and Matt and everybody who's listening to this that's watched, like,
more than three shows from Japan.
When you say it might be incest, it's incest.
It's incest.
It might be either that or it's going to be like, oh, it was my adopted sister.
You remember when?
Yeah, you know what?
If it's your adopted sister, it's still incest.
Yeah, I know.
Like, do you remember when you and me both watched Sword Art Online separately and both
had the moment of like, this is probably going to be incest.
And then less than 10 seconds later, it was incest.
It's incest.
Immediately, yeah.
Anime watching people know what Oni-san as a trope is at this point, I think.
It's just out there.
Yeah, but it's worse than that because it's like, oh, I love you.
And then the guy's like, oh, maybe I like you too.
And there's almost a mutual thing going on.
And I'm like, man, it's a good thing the rest of this show is entertaining because if it
wasn't, I'd drop this shit so hard.
I can't believe I'm having sex with my sister's vagina.
There you go.
Then there's one called Mikaku City Actors, which is based on a Vocaloid series of songs
Shut up.
Called, yeah.
Sorry, sorry, but that one was just like, oh my god, damn it.
Yeah, so it's based on a series of songs called Kagero Days, which translates to Heat
Haze Days.
That's Days with a Zed E.
Right.
Like not Days.
Yeah, exactly.
And like, I don't really know anything about the plot.
I didn't read up on it in advance.
I felt like in the first episode, he didn't give away enough for you to actually get anything
of substance out of it.
It's about this character who is a total neat, and he has his AI in his PC.
Now, we should explain what that is.
Neat.
You're not in education, employment, or training.
Yeah, exactly.
You don't leave your place.
You play video games forever.
You're almost like a Kokomori, but you're not quite good at Kokomori.
Oh, Josh has a job.
He has his AI in his computer, who's totally not based on Miku.
Totally not.
And then he accidentally spills Coke on his keyboard, and he has to go buy a new keyboard.
So it's just weird science slash show bits?
Not quite.
A little bit of an HK in there?
Dude, it's too soon to tell.
Okay.
It's too soon to tell.
But he leaves his apartment, and then he gets stuck in a situation where he always has
to get himself out, and then situations unravel, and he doesn't do anything, and he gets out.
So I need to see the second episode.
There wasn't enough substance in the first episode.
It's by Shaft, so shit.
Okay.
Okay.
Shaft are an animation group who are notorious for pinching pennies, or seeming like they're
pinching pennies.
Okay.
We actually spent a lot of money on this.
Really?
You wasted it.
Really?
I can't tell.
I can't look at a scene and not be like, oh, that's where you pinched it.
I can see how you're pinching pennies.
Is it criminally under budget?
No, because I feel like they must have money.
They did Madoka.
Okay.
Even Madoka was like, I can see where you're pinching pennies, and I don't like it.
Like, the movies were the saving grace of that.
Fucking JoJo season two got...
It's beautiful.
Part two got really bad energy.
I put that off this list.
There's a fucking motion...
No, when I say part two, I mean like a battle tendency.
Are you mad?
There was like the episode where they're climbing the pillar.
Every...
It's straight up emotion comedy.
There were like 10 frames of animation.
Everything in Italy was like running on pennies.
Yeah.
And then the moment like the actual four are like doing their thing, we're like, okay,
we can spend the money now.
Like Attack on Titan where it flips between 10 frames an episode and a million frames an episode.
Because we did that one crazy sequence when he's got to lift the rock.
Exactly, exactly.
Yeah.
And the last one I put on the...
Oh, and that one goes in the might be cool category.
And the last one I put on the list is called No Game, No Life.
Okay.
And it's about this...
That's based on a manga, isn't it?
Probably.
Most likely.
I haven't done it.
The answer is always yes, Willie.
I came into this with nothing and expected shit and I watched it and I was like, ah,
this is part of that sub-genre that I really like where it's focused around characters
interacting with games within the universe.
And I don't mean video games, but games.
Okay.
And like I really like say like the first chapters of Yu-Gi-Oh! before Duel Masters where it's
just games, I really find that charming.
Just watching the characters play these weird games and stretching the rules to the limits.
And there was this one...
I don't even know what Yu-Gi-Oh! was before Yu-Gi-Oh!
Oh, they played other games.
There was other things.
Before Duel Masters, which is Yu-Gi-Oh!
No kidding.
Yeah, exactly.
Are you serious?
Yeah, totally.
Guess I'm really surfaced then.
That's fine.
Damn.
All I know is the blue eyes, white dragon, dandy keys.
Dude, I'm just a surfaced Yu-Gi-Oh!
All I know is the...
Dandy keys, great.
All the stupid thing you wear on your arm.
All I know is the little Carribo's Yu-Gi-Oh!
Just like, I'll be honest.
Sure.
That's all I know.
Sure, but I went into this and I was like...
This concludes my attack.
Yeah.
So it's like this brother and sister and they're amazing at video games and they play online
games.
They're as cool as blank and they play together and people think it's four people but they're
so good they can both play two characters at the same time and then they get warped away
after an offer to a mysterious fantasy land where they have to play games to do stuff,
to leave and stuff.
Is that like every child's fantasy ever?
Yeah, totally.
It's such a good fun premise.
It's so fun.
I'm playing Street Fighter.
Boy, I wish I just was Ryu.
But no video games again.
This is like...
Sure, but whatever.
It doesn't really matter.
Binary games.
Yeah.
But they're like, maybe we don't want to leave this world because this is way better than
real life.
So let's follow fantasy tactics in advance then.
A bit.
Except they might not be the evil people.
I don't know.
Marsh is an asshole.
Marsh is an ass.
Which is actually just the witch in the wardrobe.
Yeah.
A little bit.
But it's actually entertaining and they didn't play enough games in the first one to know
if they're going to be smart about it because there's certain manga that are quite smart
about it.
So I put this in the might be incest category.
Okay.
Because there's a brother and sister.
They might...
Yeah.
And so that's two for the might be cool, two for the might be incest.
Gotcha.
And those are the ones I'm going to watch a second episode of and I dropped like three
other anime.
There we go.
I don't know how you do it.
I'm so excited for the post on NeoGaff tomorrow about how...
I'm so excited for the post on NeoGaff tomorrow about how people are going to compare me to
Hitler and stuff.
See, here's the problem.
Because this happens.
It's doing that.
Fuck you guys.
Automatically creates that post.
I know.
I know it does.
But I'm bitter about that one guy and he has wits.
People said a mean thing about you on the internet.
I know.
You're going to have to do...
Hey, I had people saying mean things about me on the internet before I started designing
a work.
It was a guy where I looked at his comments before and I was like, I liked your comments.
I liked reading the things you wrote.
Liam.
You're delicate, moisturized, pretty skin.
We'll need to get...
Shut up.
I'm moisturizing.
It'll need to get thicker.
Let me moisten.
You're thin so thick that your eyelids get so heavy you can't see.
You need scales like we have.
Armor plated fucking scale.
I got to take a special cream for it.
It's really...
I've got the hardest, thickest skin by now.
That being said, speaking of incest, Game of Thrones.
Game of Thrones.
This is...
There's...
That's your segue.
God.
Hey.
That's some real American incest right there.
We don't want that weak Japanese bullshit.
We want there's love.
We want strong American incest.
Game George R.R.
Martin style.
He writes the strongest incest.
He does.
He does.
He fucking does.
There's part of me that just wonders when they're all sitting around on set and they're
reading the script that's adapted from the scenes he's written that are just filthy.
He's just like a creepy 85 year old man sitting around and he's like, oh yeah.
And then the brother and the sister and the fuck.
Yep.
So hey, I'm not going to spoil anything.
And then the brother killed the sister and the dick.
I'm not going to spoil anything because I'm not a piece of shit.
Oh, but that guy...
I'm not going to sit...
Nope.
Nope.
I didn't watch that stuff.
Not a piece of shit.
And I know you guys need to catch up so I'm going to...
Yeah, we'll call you out on being a piece of shit like way before the podcast actually
goes up.
Yeah.
Because I'm not up to date.
I haven't been 24 hours since.
Hasn't even been.
Has it not?
So no, it has not even been.
No.
But that being said, I'm putting up the warning to people that...
The internet is dangerous.
You've now hit a point where the internet is super dangerous right now.
You've hit a snake, killed Dumbledore, singularity.
What you need to...
And the thing is, whether you like it or not, you're being forced to catch up right
now.
Yeah.
Otherwise, you risk major, major event spoilers.
Well, he told me earlier today that I would get spoiled and I said, no, I'd be fine.
Before the end of the day, I got spoiled twice.
Okay.
By two different places.
And the thing is, is that people...
My spoiler foo is strong.
And people...
And even I take you seriously on this morning.
I texted you this morning.
And it was already too late.
Yeah.
And you're like, I told you, steer fucking clear of that...
You woke me up with that text.
Don't go.
And it was still too late.
You know?
I tried, man.
I tried.
You never say I didn't try.
But that being said, it's not just...
Spoilers are always like in the context of a big, heavy loss of some kind, but it's
not just that.
There's other types of things that can be spoiled...
Change in tone.
Exactly.
Yeah, for sure.
So events occurring...
Shut up.
Events occurring are also spoilers.
So you really want to be careful about things.
Yeah.
Sometimes just a simple word or two is...
Enough.
Because your brain starts rolling.
So let's take an example.
I'm way out of date for Game of Thrones.
Me too.
It doesn't matter.
Where are you up to?
At the end of season one.
Hey, me too.
Exactly there.
So just saying the word, Jon Snow did, and even if you're fast enough to stop the person,
you still know Jon Snow is alive at the current point this far away.
And he's doing something.
And he's doing something in that.
It's like already your context for threats, prior to that moment, are now nullified.
Yes.
And that's how my spoiler brain works, where people think they're being clever, but they're
not.
That being said, for those of you who do know, holy fucking shit, this story.
And the book readers are all like, yeah, welcome to 10, 15 years ago Nerds.
Sure, you know.
We're the Nerds book readers.
And what's cool is I think the titles for the last two books have come out.
And like, I don't want to get them wrong.
They make sense contextually.
But they make sense contextually.
And like, I'm just straight up, the second to last book, the title has something to do
with winter.
Yeah.
So it's like, yo, it's actually fucking coming.
Right.
You know?
Right.
So yeah, no, this season is great so far, and they're doing crazy shit right out of
the gate.
As expected.
Yeah.
The Sasuga Game of Thrones fan.
And now they've got the budget to do it.
It's so nice.
I am so happy they have the budget.
It's so nice to see them.
I'm so glad they have that.
It is so weird to see like these production things, like mirror themselves between what
you would expect to be totally different things.
And like Attack on Titan and Game of Thrones are like probably decent examples of like,
this is a big adaptation of a popular thing that is being started before it is done.
And there are parts as you go along where you can see the money start to go.
Yeah.
But then it hits real big again.
And then it's all, it's just like, whoa, a perfect example of the money fucking bleeding
in.
Can you believe they're going to do fucking Attack on Titan season?
Like I think it's next season.
Like they're doing it again, like already, even though the book is not, the manga is not
even half finished.
That always works well.
The manga is far enough ahead that they can do it for another full season.
Maybe.
No, they do for sure.
I remember when we finished the first season, we were like 60% through the available name.
No, they now have another 26 to go.
Then they better stop after this one.
Yeah, sure.
And when George R. R. Martin dies halfway through book seven, it's going to be rough.
And then his kids take over and then let Robert Jordan's son do it.
Robert Jordan's son?
Well, he did that for a kid.
I know for Wheel of Time.
Wheel of Time.
Wheel of Time.
Wheel of Time.
Wheel of Time.
Yeah, it's true.
What an utter gigantic fuck you from these authors that start writing these enormous like
14 book long fantasy novels when they're 65.
Yeah.
And take two to five years to write each.
Because everyone's a Tolkien in their own right.
Right?
Tolkien wrote the books and he was done.
And then some.
Speaking of the money bleeding in.
Bleeding in.
New season.
Stand Proud.
Oh my God.
Oh.
It's so good.
Oh God, JoJo.
Stand Proud is so good.
Oh fucking JoJo.
You knew JoJo?
They knew what they had to accomplish because they were fucking standing on the backs of
giants.
So there's a couple things that are noteworthy about Stand Proud.
First of all, the song is fucking kick ass.
Second of all, the budget is way higher than the other two.
Third, there is a lot of.
Like the first two were intros for JoJo.
Were great.
Were also rife with spoilers.
They were.
Yeah.
The whole fucking season.
Yes.
Right there in your face.
Not this time.
Yeah.
They were smarter about it.
They cut that.
Except for.
Except for who the crew is.
Yeah.
Except for who the crew is.
But that's fine.
We'll have that done in five episodes.
And they even have a little Iggy, little homage in one little frame of one shot.
You get to see, he's a whole horse in a background.
Yeah.
You get to see.
I just.
So there's a couple things about that intro, like background things that are really interesting.
The ship is there.
The sun is there.
Those two get cut out of everything.
They are keeping everything as much as they can probably because now they can afford it
and they're moving at such break next speed.
The next week we'll know.
We'll know for sure.
Because if the Tower of Grey.
Okay.
There's a stand that is called the Tower of Grey.
And if it's there, then we're.
It's all there.
Also the fly.
Like if they deal with the fly.
That's the Tower of Grey.
Yeah.
If they get on the plane.
Deal with it.
You're saying what I just said.
Exactly.
And they get off.
But if they get off the plane.
Yeah.
Then we know.
Yeah.
That being said, like when you have to fucking beat Sonoshino Satame and you have to be bloody
stone.
It's a fucking hard thing to do.
It's an incredibly hard thing to do.
And I said Liam, you are not caught up yet.
Watch this intro.
Watch this opening.
I did.
And what did you think?
It was great.
Fantastic.
Stop watching your little girl anime.
Five thumbs up.
Watch your big man anime.
Sorry.
And dude.
And the most important part.
The most important part is how it ends.
Absolutely.
And so you get Sonoshino Satame.
You get the break, break, break, break, break.
Yeah.
And then you get bloody stone.
The big shout up to the sky.
Yeah.
You get the fucking aura, aura, aura, breaking the screen moment.
Yeah.
And like once the whole stand proud thing finishes and like the word stand is in the song, which
is what I wanted.
Yeah.
You just get the six solo and then you just fucking beating the screen open.
And then the final shot is just a big fist in the screen.
Because this is what it is.
This is Stardust Crusaders.
The fact that it is so concise and short and well packaged and non-spoilery and the idea
that they're going to be doing all of it makes me honestly believe that we're going to get
a second one halfway through.
That it's going to go like 39 episodes or something or maybe even 52 depending on how
they want to push it.
And we're just going to get a second one that includes Iggy, that includes whole horse,
that includes you know.
I mean they're just going to segue right into another scene.
I mean there's a lot of characters that were not seen in that intro so who knows.
But I would, just the excitement I'm feeling for like this continuing and going into four
and then five and then six, I'm unbelievably high.
My favorite part of that, and I think it bodes well for the future for Stan Prandt, is there's
this just very nice little moment near the end where you get to see the defining panel
of each of the former Joe stars.
Yes.
You get to see the closing your eyes among the flames, you get to see putting the bandana
on.
Yes.
And then they go look up against Dio and it's like they did something like that in the first
one and then they didn't do it in the second one because you know it's a different extra.
But now they're doing it here, I can easily see them doing it for each one where it's
just like there's a moment where you get to see, there's a second moment with the vines
where you just see all the past, all the stuff that the viewer's already gone through.
And just build on it, build on it, build on it.
So you know and I'm looking at this now and I'm going like okay they haven't finished
the outro yet because the outro of the episode was just instrumental over credits.
So that's coming soon.
But already...
I was going to say they probably did finish it.
Okay but what do you mean?
Just didn't air in the first episode.
Didn't air in the second episode.
And second either?
No.
No.
That's what I mean.
I'd be shocked if it's not done though.
So it's raw credits on the black screen.
Exactly.
So I'm saying like I'm pretty sure we're going to get something in the third.
It's not roundabout because roundabout doesn't fit the tone anymore.
No.
Joe Taro is not that type of guy.
Like that.
No.
You know.
We're going in another direction.
Our four or two protagonists were hot and our new protagonist is cold.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Exactly.
And our fourth protagonist is hot again and our fifth protagonist is cold.
And then just you know as it goes on.
So you shouldn't have like stand proud of fits but like roundabout so peppy and upbeat and
like...
It's you know but I do like what I heard of that like little instrumental thing they
dropped.
You're going to see if they keep that or not or whatever.
That being said actual episode.
Perfect.
Fantastic.
And perfect.
Moving on.
Perfect.
There's nothing to say other than it's literally perfect.
That like Araki himself I'm sure stood over every frame.
It's like how?
Yeah.
Or he came in and was like oh you wow I'm going to leave now.
All right.
See you guys later.
You got this.
You guys you call me when you need to figure out what you want me to name vanilla ice in
America.
Yep.
You know a lot of people want to jump into JoJo and don't know where to start.
Start at part one.
Start at the beginning.
Yeah.
You know there's really no reason not to but if you just feel like eh whatever fuck it.
Like if you started at part three there's enough support that like you would catch up
and get it.
There's only I have one large problem with that and it's that in part three Dio is your
primary antagonist and they don't explain why Dio is a dick at all.
Because they assume that you saw a part one the only explanation you get for Dio is he
says this is Dio.
He is evil incarnate.
I hate him.
We have to go murder him.
He's a vampire.
That's it.
He's a vampire.
There's no justification at all and I don't need any because Dio's a motherfucker but to
a brand new viewer it might be a little weird.
But what I'm saying is you can't jump in at battle tendency.
No.
No.
Battle tendency is impossible.
Yeah.
So what I'm saying is one is a jump in point it's the jump in point it's where you should
go but if for any dumb reason I don't know why.
Especially now you have a finite amount of time in this country.
And you just can't do it.
But especially now since it's on Crunchy you can burn through the first two in a day.
In a day.
The battle tendency is not up yet.
No it's starting to go up.
Is it not up?
Yeah.
So far it's one to nine.
Oh shit.
You got a bunch of episodes to watch.
You can burn through part one in a day.
But for any reason you just are like ahhh.
Like three is a much less like problematic jump in point than two is.
Yeah.
You know.
So yeah Jojo's perfect.
Moving on.
Moving on.
Hail Hydra.
Hail Hydra.
Hail Hydra.
Okay I gotta get on this.
Hail Hydra.
I gotta get on this.
Moving on.
Captain America 2 is not only is it pretty good it's one of the best.
Can we talk about this last week or am I mistaken?
I didn't.
No you didn't.
But did you?
I don't know if you went into it too much.
But I think.
It was really good.
Yeah.
One of my favorite Marvel movies.
You know Matt will let us know later but I think I went into it looking at this going
like okay I'm expecting a follow up to what was an old school like movie that felt right
because they got the director of the Rocketeer to do part one.
What do you do for this one?
Okay espionage movie.
It was like a modern spy movie.
Right?
Yeah Matt kept saying it was like Metal Gear.
But then it was a lot of Metal Gear parallels at the beginning wasn't there.
There was a ton.
Wasn't there.
But then it's of course.
On the boat with the hostages.
They literally do the tankers.
They do the tankers.
They do the tanker.
Okay.
It's identical almost.
Except with GF's.
But then so the fuck am I gonna see it right now?
Thanks for calling me Woolly.
You wanted to be with me and my girlfriend?
I know.
You can sit right in between.
You can be right here.
Hey man.
There's room for ginger buns all the time.
But anyway after it finishes being...
Oh it calls me for nothing.
After it finishes being ginger buns.
After it finishes being Metal Gear.
Hey get my ginger buns out of your brain thank you.
After it finishes being Metal Gear.
You just created like a hundred pages of fan fiction.
Hey good.
Good.
It decides that it goes you know what?
Now I want to be the Avengers but I want to be the Avengers with better choreography
and better fighting.
Better fight scenes.
Really?
The fighting is the best that has ever been in a Marvel movie.
Because they're actually fighting.
I can say that.
Because it's dudes.
They're not just shooting lasers at each other.
You guess what?
He fights the Winter Soldier.
And when you see them going hand to hand it is a fight.
There was a fight before that with fucking GSP.
Wait GSP?
Yes.
He shows up.
He's an antagonist.
Good.
Yeah that's great.
The theater lost it's shit when he was on screen.
As they should.
So that is a really impressive Marvel movie.
Marvel Phase 2.
Back on track.
Doing good.
Back on track.
Thor Dark World was funny but not awesome.
It wasn't great at all.
It was okay but it was not you know.
Iron Man 3 was like I laughed at Thor.
Iron Man 3 was like stumbling.
I liked Iron Man 3 enough.
I liked it enough.
I just love the dumb new focus.
But Cap puts Phase 2 right on track.
Yeah.
Because it was good.
Yeah.
What TV show?
You know.
I don't know.
What else is going on?
I'm so bummed that that shows up.
Birandale happened.
Birandale.
Damn.
So the raid 2.
The thing that I was actually invited to.
The raid ending.
So if you haven't seen the raid stop this and go watch the raid.
Don't tell them this happens.
I have to tell Matt to stop doing this too.
If you haven't seen the raid mute the podcast, put it on loop and go watch the raid.
Come back, tell us what you thought.
The raid is the shit.
Raids the shit.
It's the action movie that could out of nowhere.
It's like it felt like it feels like a new die hard.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I know what you mean.
I know what you mean.
It's not in a literal sense.
But just like this movie came out of nowhere.
Exactly.
Compact and well thought out and it's fucking awesome.
If I'm not mistaken it was this European director who was just like I can't fucking
do anything so he went to Malaysia and he was like I could do everything for $5.
Exactly.
I'm gonna kill all these guys.
And he made an amazing action movie.
And he's like yeah I was like okay I'll die.
He made an amazing action movie.
So they made the raid 2 and we went to go check it out as a giant group and I think that
the thing about the raid 1 that made it fantastic was the unexpected like gauntlet.
The unexpected lack of filler.
Like you just you have a character, you have a setting, he gets put into the situation
and go.
And he fights for the whole movie.
And there's this video game plot.
It is a video game plot.
It is a gauntlet and then you hit your bosses.
There's the top floor.
Go.
Get to it.
It should be noted we don't like it because it is a quote unquote video game plot.
The action is sick.
Unbelievable.
The best fighting in movies.
So when it comes to the raid 2 they clearly wanted to do more.
They wanted to do more.
In fact they wanted to take a movie that was originally not the raid and it was turned
into the raid 2.
But they made it work totally.
They made the storyline connect the dots and it was still really good.
It worked out.
Now the thing is that I think our opinions like differ a bit on this one because we walked
out having you know different statements being made.
That and I felt that this was a movie that spiritually captures the action of the first
one and one numbs it in every single way.
Because all the moments of holy shit from the first raid you totally get five times
that amount of this one because they realized it worked and did it again.
They even rebuilt a scene from the raid in a different context.
Yeah they did.
I know what you mean.
Yeah it was sick.
The thing is that what I felt and what he felt didn't work was the fact that they decided
to have a lot of non-action moments where they decided to try and tell a story about
things that were not related to the main character.
There were just another set of characters and I felt that was weak.
I didn't really necessarily need that.
The problem is that that story would have been much more interesting except the main
character actually has like very little stake in that secondary plot and if that plot was
isolated unto itself I might have been interested in a particular type of movie and an infernal
affairs type of plot.
Absolutely.
Because it was still good.
It just wasn't quite the raid but it was still good.
But for me what I wanted out of the raid too was them to realize and acknowledge that what
made the raid one so great was the gauntlet and just put it in another one and the setting
of the trailer when you go watch the trailer, I'm not going to spoil things but like...
Dude it's in the trailer it's fine.
Yeah but you see them in prison and you go okay that sounds like a gauntlet to me.
He has to fight everyone in that prison.
And then the gauntlet becomes a set up for a much larger broader and scope plot.
If you watch the whole trailer you will quickly realize that it does not all take place in
a prison.
And I was like ah boo.
But you didn't watch the whole trailer.
I did.
I did.
But I just thought it was stuff.
Also it has the best fucking car chase.
As the best car chase.
Ever.
With the most confusing camera placement.
Oh my god.
It has an amazing car chase.
It's not my favorite car chase of all time.
What's your favorite?
My favorite car chase is of all time.
I have to gear it up to the matrix right now.
I was just going to ask is it the matrix?
The fucking matrix uh to uh had...
That's fair.
Reloaded.
You can't...
I wouldn't agree with you but that's fair.
No it's amazing.
Fuck that movie for every reason except it's car chase.
Yeah.
God damn that was amazing.
It's absolutely incredible.
I agree.
But beyond that though this was a really impressive car chase.
There's a different take on a car chase too.
There are too many men in this car.
Where is the camera?
Oh.
And you're like what...
How is the camera going from outside of the car to in the car to behind the car to
in a different car?
While they're fighting in the car.
The camera does an impossible move at one point where it comes out of one car and you
see another car and it goes into that car and through that car and you see it from the
outside.
It's a half car.
It's a half Malaysian movie.
I know you don't have the money to do that.
No.
So fuck off.
What's going on?
How did you do that?
It's pretty impressive.
You got the car, you get a guy on a motorcycle, you throw him into the car, you have him pass
off the camera into a different guy on a motorcycle.
I know.
They're good at their job.
Nonetheless man, the raid and the raid to our action movies they're hitting in the way
that Tony Joffers takes.
Absolutely.
Where you're like this is unexpected holy shit action.
That's amazing.
And the thing with the raid is that it's not so much the acrobatics, it's the oh my
god I can't believe how hard that hit moments.
One of the good analogies is that a lot of people are like oh Melee combats cool in games
but in a lot of games it falls flat and one game that really succeeded on not making it
fall flat, I'm sure you can guess it and one guess, American game that succeeded at Melee
not landing flat was The Last of Us where it was visceral and it was violent.
The raid is that but way more visceral and violent.
Absolutely.
Incredible.
It's not the, it's part ingenuity but it's mostly impact.
It's mostly like you've seen so many just like, there's a little Jackie Chan movies
where it's like the guy just kind of drops, you hit a punch in 20 times.
But in this one it's like he viciously murdered this guy into a corner.
And here's the thing, I'll set it up with a fictional example.
Two hero and random goon are fighting on top of like a table or something like that.
In your random action movie the hero will punch and then sweep the guy and he'll land on the
table and roll off and he'll be gone.
Maybe in a harder action movie he'll break through it.
In the raid he will land on the corner of the table and his face will fall off.
He'll hit the side of his face and neck right at the perfect awkward painful angle.
But they're not scared to make the tables out of concrete in some cases.
And the table is a hard stiff table.
And then like he'll probably jump off of that guy to attack the next guy.
That's the fucking raid.
It is nuts.
It is very bizarre for us to sit here and describe a movie that must have over 200 on-screen
murders.
At least.
As having too much plot.
It is like Commando has a lot of murder in it.
This probably has doubled the triple the amount of murder that Commando has at a level of
graphic violence that is far surpassing anything from the 80s.
And 90% of them are killed with melee combat.
Yes.
There's a moment where a guy's grabbing another dude by his mouth and just tears his lower
jaw.
It's in the background.
It's another great character.
Yeah.
Exactly.
Oh, that seems so cool.
And beyond that, I'm going to stop talking about Dark Souls because I've gotten some messages
from people going, guy, I'm waiting on the PC version.
So you know what?
That's fair.
I'll be courteous, but still going strong, loving it.
Level 97 right now.
So level 97.
So level 97.
Sorry.
And goddamn, I'm having a blast.
That's all there is to say.
It makes every time I go back to it and play it, the difficulty of these games is overstated.
And how do I put it?
The games themselves are embarrassing most of the AAA industry because of, man, things
got really easy.
Things got really easy.
This game isn't even that hard.
It's just everything around me has been so easy for so long.
And the myth about their impenetrable, impossible difficulty is just as damning because it's
like you hear, you heard horrible things about the difficulty.
Completely unplayably impossible.
And then you're, and then he plays like, this is, oh my God, people have been babied for
so long that they feel that this is impossible.
Well, the biggest fucking mistake where, remember, Sony didn't want to publish it in the West.
For this exact reason.
Because they were like, this is what is this garbage?
And then Atlas fucking made, got their biggest selling game of all time.
And just when I'm making my way through an area and I'm like peeking around corners in
fear, I'm like, God, this feeling.
I haven't felt like a, you know, a friend of mine pointed out that it is not, it is
described as the hell of 8-bit, but it's not.
It's the hell of 16-bit.
It's not NES hard.
Yeah, because you die in one hit and whatever.
It's super NES hard.
Okay.
Where it's a game.
It's not just there to fuck you.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, okay.
It's not unfair.
And it's definitely not the internet mirror of 80s co-op, coin-ups.
It is, it is, it is in fact, like, super meat boy and N++ in that, like, you feel your mistakes.
You know where you fucked up.
Yeah, it's extremely fair.
Now you have the knowledge and now that you have the knowledge, you're going to pay for
it.
You know?
So good.
Having a blast.
So good.
You're going to really go nuts when you go back to the older stuff.
I can't wait, man.
I can't wait.
Did you pick them up yet?
Just the older stuff.
Did I buy the games?
No, I'll buy them on site.
Okay.
By the time he gets around them, they're going to be like, 11 dollars total.
And I still want to do two more runs.
Sure.
So, you know.
Yeah, there's the champion run and then there's your new game plus run.
So, you know, we'll see.
Yeah, going strong with that.
Pat, how was your week, man?
My week was lazy, dude.
Like, aside from working with you guys, like, I did almost nothing.
Like, I saw a raid, obviously.
We talked about that.
I did manage to catch up on something that, oh, God, so good.
You guys been watching Cosmos?
No.
With Neil deGrasse Tyson?
No.
Yo, you should watch fucking Cosmos with Neil deGrasse Tyson.
No, no, dude.
We queued it up.
Me and my girlfriend and I queued it up because we both love watching his stuff.
Neil deGrasse Tyson is just hanging around for an hour and talking just mess about space.
Oh, yeah.
Oh, yeah.
You want to know about space?
Yeah.
You're fucking huge and massive.
And you fucking love it so much.
And he's a really cool guy.
Neil deGrasse Tyson's awesome.
Look, it's awesome because it's like such a Neil deGrasse Tyson handboy.
He has cool.
Because the deal is that, like, there are other dudes out there way more qualified.
But not with that charisma.
But he has charisma.
Yeah.
And he realizes it, so he goes, all right, I'll do it.
And to be fair, Neil deGrasse Tyson is extremely qualified in his own right.
But there are more.
He's not Michio Kaku.
There are dudes out there.
Exactly.
And he does not have the raw animal charisma that Neil deGrasse Tyson demands.
But Michio Kaku will tell you some shit about M-brains.
And Michio Kaku's too much.
I love it, though.
It's too much, though.
No, but it's not because he's into sci-fi.
He might as well be a wizard.
Like, Michio Kaku.
Like, that's the level of game that he's spinning.
You look, you know, you're browsing the internet and it's like, oh, Michio Kaku's going to talk 20 minutes about strength theory.
And he might as well be making shit up.
But then when you start like going like, you're losing me, he'll go, okay, okay, how about some force fields?
You want to hear some cool shit about force fields?
Yeah, I do, Michio.
And then he totally tells you about them.
But yeah, Cosmos is fucking great.
It uses my favorite evolution analogy of all time in the second episode, which is dog breeds.
And it uses dog breeds over a period of 10, 15 minutes to go like, yo, where's your macro evolution over time?
Because look at this, and it's like a chihuahua.
That was a wolf.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
That's bullshit.
The only thing I would say, it's just like, it's a, like, the new series is just a little bit skewed towards populism than the Sagan's was.
Sure.
Back in the 70s.
What was it?
The 80s or the 70s?
They did it.
Give me some context there.
A little less.
It's more like, look at this shit and crazy expensive graphic of Adams and-
More like myth busters and less like the old history channel.
And then like narration over it and way, way less.
Sagan's going to sit in this chair with a piece of paper and explain the hype for you.
If you want to create an apple pie, first you must make the universe.
Yes.
There's a lot of callbacks to Sagan, which are very nice and very appropriate.
Utterly fantastic series, but it's just not quite-
Because in the original Cosmos, there was a lot of time, it was just raw narration, like almost like school book learning.
Like you hear class, here's the deal.
And here there's a lot better use of integrated graphics and whatnot.
It's just like, you're lingering on-
You spent a lot of money on this black hole.
It's been toned down.
So it's like, I understand your willingness to linger on it, but just start talking about hypercubes again, please.
Did you catch who's funding the show by any chance?
No.
Okay.
It's like TV, no.
No, I'm wondering because I'm sure like NASA and like groups like that where they're like, our funding is getting cut.
You guys really need to be excited about this shit so that we can get money so that we can do shit.
Like get Mars rovers out there, you know, because I know-
I know that Seth DeFarland's like an executive producer on it.
I find this very bizarre.
But because the thing I was going to say is that like every one of these like speakers for science as it were has their own thing.
Like Michikaku has the nerd sci-fi appeal.
You would call them popularizers of science.
It's popularizers of science, thank you, that's a good way to put it.
Neil DeGrasse has the charisma.
I want to say Dawkins has layman's terms.
Bill Nye's got it all.
Oh, Bill Nye's got the old man rage.
He's got everything.
Right next door.
Hey guys, video games.
Video games.
Wait, wait, wait, we forgot. Matt, what do you do with your week?
Matt, what did you do with your week?
Oh, okay.
That wasn't very-
All right.
Did you have a tough week?
That's not great.
That's not-
Well.
Just leave you be.
Okay, we'll do what you will.
I hope everything works out.
Cool, man, right on.
All right, so video games.
Video games.
I can't believe they keep happening.
They keep happening.
Dude, and they're happening.
Yo, let's hijack this shit.
Freedom Wars is coming.
Freedom Wars is coming.
No.
No.
Freedom Wars.
No.
Shut up.
No.
Matt, shut up.
You can't hijack this just-
Shut up, man.
Fine, hijack.
Freedom Wars is coming.
Freedom Wars, yeah.
Soul Sacrifice Delta.
Soul Sacrifice Delta.
Freedom Wars.
And what was formerly known as Over My Dead Body 2.
Now, Oreshka.
The Vita is saved.
Vita means a slow, long life.
I will cheer for the thing that happens
44 seconds into that trailer.
Where I'm like, that's how you sell me.
On Freedom Wars.
Where you have-
Was that the life sentence?
No.
No.
It's the character doing the rising, spinning melee slash
into a helm splitter.
Of course.
Yeah.
That's how you grabbed me.
Freedom Wars.
Get a Vita.
Yeah.
And then-
I'm sure the life sentence didn't hurt either.
And the thing that I was wondering was, you know-
Oh, yeah.
What-
Can you do more?
I read from someone who played the demo at, fuck was it,
Taipei Game Show?
At some place.
At some place.
You can apparently cancel out of that into the Ibarra whip.
Yeah.
While you're in the air before the helm grab.
Now, what I would love to know is if I can do a helm splitter raw
any time.
Maybe.
There's only like two of them.
Maybe you should pick it up and figure it out on my non-Vita.
There's a highly likely chance that the guy-
That was made by the God Eater guys, right?
Yeah.
And they have a lot of, like, in-depth gameplay melee systems.
Yeah.
Okay.
It's gonna be great.
It's gonna be great.
The designers and dimps are actually building-
Doing the heavy lifting.
Yeah, exactly.
Uh, yep.
So that's confirmed.
Woo!
Yay!
That was a nice matter of thing.
Shohei Yoshino gave us a high five over Twitter.
He did.
That was a cute little high five.
Now, let's talk about the things that more people care about.
Yeah.
Tales of Hearts come into Vita.
Okay.
Confirm.
Now, I understand how you feel.
Smash Brothers Direct.
Woo!
So, Sakurai himself came.
The man.
He came down from the helm.
I love how one of the very first things he said in that Direct is,
Yes, I am still alive.
Yeah!
And I don't have bionic wrists.
Like, he's still directing.
Like, yeah.
I wish I had bionic wrists.
Like, that dude is keyed in.
Um, so we're just gonna run-
There's a lot-
There's a lot of info and we're just gonna run down the important ones as we go through
this.
One, my, to my surprise, Summer 2014 for the 3DS version.
Yeah.
Lunar 2014.
Okay, I have the question that I've been thinking of.
I got really, like, I went nuts when I saw that, but not in a good way.
Are they just intending to just box the Wii U at this point and just give up, and just
give up?
No, no, no.
This is ensuring that everyone will buy both.
I don't 100% agree.
Because you're gonna want to buy it.
I think-
You want to get your hands on it right away.
That's true.
And then you're gonna want to get your hands on the Wii U version.
I think the 3DS version was always gonna sell way, way better.
I think the auxiliary audience who is interested in a Wii U or has one already will definitely
buy both if they've got the money.
For sure, for sure, for sure.
But, like, the non-simultaneous release date.
I think there's kind of just two reasons for it, where it's like one of them may or
may not be that they need something for Summer for the 3DS and why not.
Sure.
Because, right, I mean, at E3 we'll see a lot, I'm sure, but right now the 3DS is dry
as a bone after Kirby.
There's fucking nothing.
Well, now they're smashed.
Now they're smashed, exactly.
So maybe it was that they needed to pad out their release windows so they prioritized the
3DS one.
Smash is the wettest ocean you could drop.
Other than Mario Kart, yeah, totally.
Onto that thing.
Totally.
So I think, like, that's a part of it, for sure.
There's a blue ocean.
But there's definitely a strategy.
Yeah, I also think that, like, staggering it does have the benefit of, like, people will
buy it again later on, especially because they think-
I just picture this.
If it was the other way around, or if it was simultaneous release, there's more people
getting their hands on the console version before the hand.
There's an important factoid here that a lot of viewers might be missing.
Missing.
It's true.
Uh-huh.
Where they already-
Missing.
Missing.
Where they already said a while ago, both versions will have different stuff.
Yes.
That's an important factor to people buying both, to anyone who doesn't know.
True.
They'll have different modes and different stages.
But I still think-
But I still think by putting the one people want the most last, you maximize the purchase.
I don't know, because I see that, and I'm like, oh, you just removed all potential
system seller impetus from Smash.
I would say the one that people want the most is the 3DS version.
I don't think that's-
Moral-wide combined.
That's crazy.
I want the way you want.
No, dude, people want to play with their friends in front of their TVs.
Yeah, totally.
The tournament scene wants to go play in their tournaments.
I don't think the circle pad's good enough.
I think that-
They want their waifers.
I think that we think that.
They can't use your waifers.
They don't have waifers.
Fuck that.
I think that we think that because we all own we use, but I think considering most people
don't-
Okay.
No, for sure.
A lot of people-
The entire tournament scene wants the console, which is maybe 300 guys.
What else?
No, he's right.
No, I definitely-
Don't get me wrong.
The 3DS version's going to beat this thing like-
Like 10 to 1.
10 billion to 1.
No, not that much, but it's going to beat it, for sure.
It's going to sell the most.
I still think that Smash Bros. is such a strong franchise that it's still going to help move units.
And I would argue even further, because people are going to see how good it is, unless it's
terrible.
People are going to see how good it is, and when it comes out again with more new stuff,
people are going to be-
We have a renewed interest in it.
Not more than the first release, but there's going to be a certain renewed sense of interest.
Dude, I don't know.
Like, nobody has a Wii U, everybody has a 3DS or a 2DS.
That, by default, makes the 2DS or 3DS version the one that most people want.
I agree.
Because most people, like-
I agree.
People don't have Wii Us.
People don't have Wii Us either.
People don't have Wii Us.
Not really.
No one has Wii U.
And you don't think that, like-
No one.
Okay, okay.
Well, that was much of that.
No, no, it was totally a struggle.
But you don't think that that Smash bundle would fucking-
That's not going to happen.
Not when it's six months after you already buying it on the handheld you already own.
What I wanted to say is there's a certain circular thing that only really works for Nintendo,
where Nintendo's software always sells by far the best on their consoles,
barings rare things like Just Dance and Yo-Kai Watch,
which isn't even like in the top 10 or anything.
Yeah.
You know, always, always sells the best.
And that works in a circular way, where people also buy Nintendo hardware,
specifically for Nintendo's software.
Like we all did.
And I think the benefit, if you can call it a benefit,
of having a split release like this,
is people will see how great Smash is,
people will hear how great Smash is,
and when Smash comes out again with more stuff,
people will be like, yeah, I can get behind this.
Okay, but when you see-
When you say when people hear how great Smash is,
what is to stop those people from buying the handheld version?
Nothing.
Then why wouldn't they-
No, what I mean to say is I think there's going to be a certain large overlap
of people who buy both.
I disagree entirely.
Why?
Because they're still going to be both before price when they come out.
Are you going to buy both?
Yes, I'm going to buy both.
Are you going to buy both?
Absolutely.
We are not representative of anything.
But they're going to sell hundreds of thousands of both.
And that's more than most Wii U games can say.
Period.
Period.
That's dire.
It's not bad speculation.
And there are people that are only going to buy the Wii U one.
That does-
For any player?
Sure.
I wonder how many are only going to buy the Wii U one,
but just having it there, it's such a killer app.
It's Smash Bros. It's going to sell regardless.
But I agree that they're definitely taking a bit away.
It's not going to system sell as hard as it could
if it was the other way or if they both came out the same.
Remember, they make their money off software.
Sure, but you need to sell hardware to sell software.
No, but the Wii U can just fucking die.
And Nintendo can still live off the 3DS.
So you're under the impression that this is like they're just giving up on the Wii U?
No.
That's not my impression.
My impression is they're trying to sell more software by splitting it.
Okay.
That's all.
Not giving up on the Wii U is such a killer app.
I figured that they would want to leverage Smash to try and save the Wii U.
But is that a worth it trade-off?
For the amount of money you make on 3DS?
No, but they make naive decisions all the time.
Either way, there are probably good development reasons as well.
Oh, I bet it's just...
I bet that if they wanted to release them simultaneously,
that 3DS version would have been done and cooked for six months.
Yeah, this Smash Bros.
For people who aren't aware, this Smash Bros. is getting shoved out the door.
And I don't just mean like in a literal sense, but...
It was originally going to come out in 2016.
Well, I remember reading in an interview somewhere that I can't trace
I've been fucking trying to grab it.
It may have been a Japanese interview or something.
Probably made it up.
I remember it very distinctly.
Whereas Brawl was built off of more or less nothing,
this one's being built off Brawl.
All hands on deck.
Which is why we see so much Brawl overlap specifically.
I just like the idea that every single time there's a Smash,
like the game announcement,
it's like Sakurai being told that he needs to show up tomorrow.
Yeah.
Because the game is happening.
Damn it.
You thought...
I had to go to my daughter's graduation tomorrow.
We can argue till we're blue at the face of what this means for Nintendo.
Yeah.
But fuck all that shit.
It's gonna sell really well.
Let's get to what they announced.
Let's get to the content.
Now, the biggest one right out the gates...
New Challengers.
No, no, no, no.
That's not the biggest.
Wait, sorry.
Did you use an S for that sentence?
No, fuck you.
Single...
Fuck you, new Challengers.
That's not the biggest one.
Fuck you.
There's one new challenge.
There are two.
First, two modes and online play confirmed.
Yeah.
And Sakurai gets to stand up there and go,
the online plays sucked shit before.
Yeah.
Like a very clear admission that it sucked before,
which is very, like...
So now we have for fun mode and for not fun mode.
For glory mode.
For glory.
But it's like...
For not fun.
It's like the tacit implication that people that want to play
a more serious version of Smash aren't doing it for fun.
You get a more serious one,
but not a tournament-worthy one.
And to the point where they actually go,
you know what, we acknowledge that the whole
Fox only Final Destination thing...
No, it was Final Destination.
It sucked shit.
Yeah.
So we're gonna make every stage have a Final Destination variant.
Fucking awesome.
Awesome?
And a really great thing.
There's a large chunk of it.
There's gonna be multiple themes for Final D, right?
Awesome that it's a gesture that shows that,
like, he's acknowledging that.
Now that being said,
there are a bunch of people who play characters
that do well on Battlefield.
Well, superman!
I had to explain this to Will because he didn't get it.
The thing that's funny about this is that, like,
I've known for a while,
I didn't fully understand the details of it,
but Final D is not balanced.
It's not the most balanced stage.
It's not perfectly balanced at all.
Because there are some characters
that have a distinct advantage over others.
We had a big debate about this,
where you were like, no.
It was a debate.
It was, I want you to explain more to me.
Because I understand, but I need context.
There are the two, and you've explained to us.
It's not that it's unbalanced,
it's that there are two balances.
There's the balance for stages
that are Final Destination,
and there's balances for stages
that have a platform above.
There's a character matchup,
and there's a stage matchup.
Yeah, exactly.
A little back is gonna be excellent
on Final Destination.
However, now Sakurai has decided that,
no, there is no stage matchup.
There's Final Destination.
There are now character matchups.
Well, which is why before I said,
it's not perfectly balanced turning thing.
Because it's not,
because Little Match is always gonna have the advantage.
But the difference between
Battlefield and Final D being
characters who are better in the air
actually have viable strategies on Battlefield
because you have platforms
versus a situation when Final D
where you don't have to jump.
Everyone lands.
Everybody falls.
I'm super happy with this change
because I love playing on Final D
and I hate playing on it.
I think it's great.
I totally understand.
This is totally an Earthbat thing.
This is totally like,
if you play a character
that does really well on Battlefield
and does shit on Final Destination,
that sucks for you.
I don't care.
Fuck you.
I'm not dropping down in there.
I don't care.
And the other thing that I was...
They're gonna change them in Ike.
I hope they don't change them in Ike.
They're gonna change them in Ike.
I remember being told that
some characters can cling
under the bottom side of Final D
back and forth and just stall for time
and do bullshit.
You're not allowed to do that.
So, yeah, no, no.
There's little things like that.
But anyway, that's the online mode confirmed.
Also, they're gonna be banning people
so they don't give a fuck.
Don't be a dick to the people you don't like.
They don't have the full specifications yet,
but there will be bans.
And just straight up,
hey, you wanna play randoms?
You can play anybody random.
There will be along very specific set rules.
If you wanna play with your friends,
you can bullshit whatever the fuck you want.
So, a really nice custom game
and playlist solution.
Pseudo-legit online mode set.
I really like the idea
of going on the multiplayer screen
and having for fun and for glory.
It's so simple and I just push that.
I like that.
I really like it.
It's a elegant solution
to a really huge problem.
Dude, even Marvel had a for fun mode
with the bullshit car.
Yeah, with the hair over.
That was so stupid.
I love it.
Now, we've got the character announced.
There's fucking Pokemon everywhere.
So, Pat, you said there was multiple new characters.
That's right.
I don't agree with that.
There was one new character.
There was one new character
and four recon foundations.
Yeah, but one new character.
One new character,
four recon foundations.
And I wanna hear why you believe
there's multiple characters.
Well, Charizard is not Pokemon trainer.
And Sheik is not Sheik.
Charizard was Charizard.
Well, I'm talking about Charizard and Greninja.
Charizard's not a new character.
He's not Pokemon trainer.
Yeah, but Sheik's not Zelda.
Okay, boys.
It's the same thing.
It's the same thing.
Moving on.
Okay, fine, fine.
It's Semantix.
Moving on.
It's not Semantix.
It's literal.
It's literal.
They're transformation characters.
Okay.
And there is one new move set as a result.
New character.
And Greninja.
And everyone else is returning.
Fucking fantastic.
Greninja's such a good choice.
Also, a bunch of new Pokemon,
like a Sistro if you show it.
Sure.
But Greninja, despite...
Such a good choice.
Contrary to popular belief,
I am not at all butthurt by that.
Because there's already a Bowser.
There's already Heavy.
They get to put Striker in the game.
I don't think you need a Chestnut.
And yeah, and you can do that.
The thing is that, like, though...
What's his name?
Matt.
Me too, replacement.
Yeah.
Lucario.
Lucario is like a Fire Ninja type thing anyway.
Looks more fun this time.
But you have two of them,
and this one's more Ninja than the other one.
Yeah.
Plus, Final Smash looks like Strider.
Yeah.
Looks like Strider and Chip's enough.
Yeah, exactly.
Um, fuck do it.
I was initially a bit, like, ehh,
because I was, like, really Charizard and Greninja,
back to back.
Like, I wish there could have been a bit of, like,
variety in that.
And, like, over time, I'm just like, whatever.
They're cool.
They're great.
And we'll see the characters when we see them,
so whatever.
But I was really hoping for, like,
someone out there,
and Charizard kind of bummed me that it was.
People like Charizard.
No, no.
And if Charizard had been announced in another setting,
and not, like, Pokemon to Pokemon,
back to back.
Yeah, I think that's why they announced them together.
Exactly.
Exactly.
Like, you'd be like,
Ah, fuck.
Oh shit, Greninja!
Sweet-ass cutscene with Charizard and Mario
flying at each other.
Yeah, these are the cool ones.
Yeah.
And Mega Charizard confirmed.
Yeah.
Mega Lucario confirmed.
Ridley de-confirmed.
Ridley not de-confirmed.
My life.
People are looking at that wing,
and being like,
that wing isn't big enough to be a boss character.
Ahhh.
It's possible.
It's possible.
He could have fucked with us,
but he seemed to imply.
No, he fucks with us all the time.
He lies.
Yeah.
There's hope.
There's always hope.
I'm sad.
And he showed the other M stage,
and said boss characters.
There are going to be a while.
I'm sad enough to have proven otherwise.
What other boss character would be in that other M stage?
No, he probably meant that,
but it was also like, hey,
he's also proven otherwise.
Sad until proven otherwise.
Yeah.
Like, Giga Bowser was never playable,
but Bowser is.
Giga Bowser's playable?
As a regular fighter?
As a regular player?
As a regular player?
No, no, not as a regular player.
Well, that's what I need.
With a Smash Ball.
Yeah, sure.
But it's like,
Totally clear.
Ridley could have a boss version
and a playable version.
Maybe.
Okay.
Um, zero suit, redone.
To become Bayonetta?
Exactly.
Most important part about the zero suit,
redo, is this shows us
that Bayo is totally a possibility.
Totally a possibility.
Um, Nintendo is not only
shying away from the sexy,
but look at those heels.
Bayonetta is totally a possibility
based on complete guesses.
Yes.
Based on throwing it to the wind
and pulling it out of the air.
Yeah.
I mean,
I mean,
I mean,
I mean,
I mean,
I mean,
I mean,
I mean,
throwing it to the wind
and praying
to base to PG.
P St,
Please
You're very similar.
I would rather wonder Red
at this point.
I'd rather poke
If you had to choose
between the two,
Wonder Red.
He's a better fit.
He's a better character.
Okay.
Bayonetta is awesome
and has a better fighting system,
But she's a shallow character.
And Wonder Red is awesome.
Nothing character he's awesome.
He's just
According to ì‹«an,
Aw,
And he's awesome.
No, money that is top fighting.
I can't do this.
I can't choose.
I can't do it.
Bayonetta is so much better.
No.
For months
and months and months,
I said, I wish Bayonetta was in it
and you kept saying,
Nah, she wouldn't fit.
Nah, she's no good.
No, I said,
I think Nintendo would feel
she's too sexy.
You said,
you said she wouldn't fit the visuals.
I said,
I literally said
she wouldn't fit the visuals.
I said,
I felt Nintendo.
You even said,
I think Wonder Red.
I think Wonder,
I think Wonder Red is a great choice.
But I think that
I would assume
looking at a character like that,
they'd be like,
Oh, this doesn't,
this is too sexy to adult,
but putting a character like Zero Suit
in pretty much disproves that entirely
and goes,
actually, we don't give a fuck.
So I see that.
No, but Zero Suit was in the last one
and Snake was in the last one.
Yeah.
And they're both fucking hot.
But looking at Zero Suit now,
especially,
I kind of feel like,
okay,
this,
this could happen.
Maybe this,
maybe we can see a Bayonetta.
I'm not going to fight you over it
because it's going to take forever
and we're going to
make everybody freaked out
because we're going to get super intense.
Yeah.
Bayonetta was a better character
than Wonder Red.
Wonder Red is like an icon
style character
and Bayonetta is a character.
You know what?
You know what?
Tell me, describe Bayonetta.
Sassy, intelligent, confident.
How,
how intelligent is she?
Demonstrate one of her intelligent
feats,
barring just fighting.
What's that?
Dude,
it's,
it's,
it's dialogue.
I know,
but they never do anything
and maybe in Bayonetta too.
You mean,
you mean how Wonder Red
never does anything
other than fighting?
You hear about his backstory?
Dude,
I am not going to let you do this
because your points.
I just,
I started this
by saying
your points
are going to only be established
by pulling down two fantastic
characters.
All I want to say,
I love them both for sure.
Just say,
just say you like this character
more
and you like that character
more.
No,
no, I won't say that.
I will say,
Liam,
you're wrong,
but I'm not going to fight you on it
and I admit that you can
tell me that I am wrong also
and we will leave it at that.
Yeah,
sure.
I am confident
that not Switzerland's here.
I,
putting the two together,
I think,
Where's my paintings?
I think Bayonetta's a better character
as well.
What do you think?
Bayonetta!
So,
Bayo,
clearly the best character.
Bayo wins,
three to one.
Sorry,
Liam.
This is a voting situation.
It's how it works.
No,
but it's fine because
Liam,
if you didn't have
your controversial opinions,
then this would be a
circle trick, right?
If you agreed with me,
I'd kick you out of the
podcast.
That's awesome.
This is bullshit.
No.
What you say is,
without your
controversial opinions,
you wouldn't be Liam.
Sure.
I just,
now get out of my office.
I think,
I think the cast of
Wonderful 101 is very colorful
altogether.
But isolating Wonder Red
versus isolated
Sereza,
I feel like there's more
going on with Bayonetta
and I like her more.
I like her more.
Sure,
that's all.
We
also can talk
about
fucking the return of City Trial.
Yeah.
You should be happy for that.
That was so weird.
I am.
That was so weird.
That was aimed at Liam.
He was speaking to
that fucking thing.
I was one of those fucking
guys on Game Facts
before Brawl came out.
Like this is a shoe-in
for this game, right?
Right.
City Trial is going to
happen in this game
and it didn't happen.
And so when I saw it here,
instead of cheering,
that was so weird.
I was just like,
oh, it's about time.
Explain what City Trial is.
Well, I just want to say,
that was my cheer.
Yeah.
Really loudly.
That was so weird
because this guy's just
like a couple weeks ago
was like, man,
fucking City Trial is the
best thing on Earth.
It's the best.
It's the fucking best.
You do this.
You get points.
You fight at the end.
I'm like, okay.
City Trial.
It's in what?
It's in Kirby Air Ride.
And then...
City Trial is a mode
in Kirby Air Ride
where you take a vehicle
and you explore
an open world city
and you collect power-ups
and make your vehicle
more powerful
and you do a challenge
at the end.
And Smash,
it's the same thing
when it's on a 2D Smash plane,
kind of like a large
classic mode stage
in LA,
like a really large one
with some kiddicrous
uprising design.
And you're watching it
and you're like,
this is the exact same thing
that Liam was talking about.
You pick a character,
you power them up
through the mode
and then...
So as...
You do a semi-run
and challenge,
as I'm thinking this,
isn't this exactly
what he was talking about?
Exactly the same.
He pulls up footage
of Kirby's Air Ride
and goes,
this is exactly what
Liam was talking about.
It was, like,
ultra-validating.
I think the only difference
is they didn't seem to imply
that they were going to be
multiple modes.
No, you fight.
You fight.
Well, yeah, because it's Smash.
You build your fights
and fight,
so there's no different race types.
I don't want to quote it
or say something
because I'd love to hear it again
to make sure,
but maybe they would put
target test or stuff
at the end, too.
Break the targets?
Dude, it'd be awesome
with power-ups like that.
Geez,
giant four player
break the target.
Who even knows?
Because I don't want to quote
it.
It's probably just fights.
It's probably just fights.
You know what?
It's probably just fights.
Yeah, because you're
building up on a random stage.
It's got to be all random.
Types.
Yeah.
You're smashed in power-B buttons
and stuff.
Smash looks pretty good.
Yeah, Smash looks pretty good.
I might buy it.
I'm thinking about it.
If lightning's in it,
I might buy it.
Maybe if I'm drunk.
We were talking about Dark Souls
earlier
and hard games
being missing
from our lives in general.
They are.
I need more hard.
Well,
it seems like
Barra agrees.
What?
Because their next game
is called Below.
Oh, yeah.
And while we initially
only got to see a really vague
descriptive trailer,
non-descriptive trailer,
I should say,
now we've seen a further
in-depth look at it
at PAX East.
Have you guys seen
or heard of anything from
Below?
I saw older footage of it.
Yeah.
Okay.
So now we have actual
gameplay footage
of this happening.
Below is Cappy doing
what they,
what is basically Dark Souls
with a
link to the past camera.
Oh, yeah.
Right?
So Zelda 1.
Zelda 1.
Yeah.
Link to the past.
Yeah.
Like think about what
Zelda 1 is like.
And now think about
what Dark Souls is like.
Much more visually beautiful
in that pixel-based graphics.
Yeah.
And you just see
your character is a dot.
You're super tiny.
You're tiny, yeah.
In this massive world
is the character.
The world is the character.
Yeah.
You get told nothing.
You get given nothing.
You have your
possibly sword and shield
and torch
or your bone arrow.
Good.
And just go.
And everything kills you.
You're on Cappy.
You have one point of health.
But you have an opportunity
to save yourself
when you're about to take damage.
So there's little things
that are there.
But they're not
explaining too much,
but they're just showing it off.
And they were directly,
directly straight up influenced
by Dark Souls and Zelda.
Yeah.
There's a special thing
about those kinds of games
where you don't really
say all that much
and you just dump it
in the wild
and throw people at it.
And now that we've
seen more of it,
it looks beautiful.
So I guess that's going to
ship in 2019.
Sometime after Super Time Force.
Yeah.
I mean, look,
it looks like they've
it looks good.
It's coming.
It's coming.
And that sounds great,
but at the same time,
like, Leem,
you're totally right.
Like, announcing
a brand new game
after the game
you've been working on
for like four years.
Time Force is coming out soon,
though.
They've been saying that
for two years.
I thought they just put
like a somewhat
date on it.
Sure.
That doesn't mean anything.
You're right.
Below.
I played at E3
and it looked good to go then.
It was a year ago.
It looked shipable
at fucking Evo.
Like, yeah, no.
But below
has some online modes as well
that they don't want to
describe for fear
of quote unquote
mauling you
it up.
Good.
But they definitely
are like,
we have some crazy online
modes planned.
Oh, man.
The idea of wandering
in a group
in this large open
who knows what the fuck
is around that corner
environment
sounds like a great idea.
Man,
you mentioning
Malonu makes me
wish I had done
more research on goddess
and that Eurogamer
interview he did.
Did any of you guys
read that?
No.
Yeah, it was relatively
recent.
I think it was two weeks ago
where Malonu did
a semi-disastrous
interview with
Eurogamer
because goddess looks
like total garbage
and nothing like
what he pitched.
Oh, dear.
And like in the
interview, I think
Malonu at one point
says, like,
I was hesitant to do this
because all you're going
to say is,
oh, he's making
up bullshit again.
Oh, OK.
No, I did read that.
Yeah.
Like, goddammit, Peter,
just, just,
you need to shut up forever.
You need to shut up.
Maybe he does.
Maybe like you.
You know, I mean,
he came out and said that, like,
he's saddened by what
he does regularly
when he overhypes
these things because he
actually believes
in achieving them.
Yeah.
But maybe he actually
just needs to be quiet.
Maybe.
And it's like,
it's weird because
the past two times
he is like in the
in the run towards it.
He's got,
I know I'm known
for talking big.
Not this time, though.
Like every time.
Yeah.
You know, so
it's got us in early access now.
It is, right?
I think it is.
Yeah, I think that
I think the crux of the problem
was just like,
it has turned into more
of like a free-to-play game
than what was originally pitched.
I don't know.
I'm still waiting
for that one point now.
No, you're going to be
in a while.
Sure.
Hey, we'll know
when we get our hands on it,
I suppose.
I suppose.
You know what else we'll know
about when we get our hands on it?
Ah,
where you are?
The evil within?
Yeah.
Yeah.
You have to find out.
Boy, those are some
negative impressions.
Those are some
No, they're not.
They're mixed.
That is the definition
of mixed reviews.
Yeah.
Don't,
like,
don't take your hype
and then read some
negative and go,
it's all bad.
Because that's not what happened.
It wasn't all negative.
But it's super duper mixed.
I think the weirdest,
the most common complaint
that I saw
about the evil within demo
at PAX
and the one,
is the one that
confuses me the most.
And it was reported
by several people.
It's like,
when something really scary
happens,
your character doesn't
freak out.
There's a reaction anyway.
This really breaks my
immersion.
And I look at that
and go,
that is,
what?
If you're into it,
you should be the person
having that reaction.
Who cares if Joel or
Nathan Drake
or Lara Croft
go,
ah,
I can only imagine
it's some ham-fisted thing
like it's too photo-realistic.
I can't.
But like,
what I'm picturing is
the odd weirdest,
but I'm picturing the opposite
where the character's standing
in their tipos
and the world is coming apart
and they're just standing there.
Yeah.
You know?
Yeah.
So I checked out some
impressions from,
there's the Crescentes
impressions on Polygon.
There's the IGN ones
I want to see
what they're saying about it.
Like just,
what are these fucking rags
talking about
when it comes to this thing?
And,
who?
Who?
Fighting words.
Really?
Really?
They're not even
in paper film.
And,
you know,
they straight up
were just saying,
they're like,
look,
there's two parts to this demo.
By the way,
that wasn't like fear,
that was like me getting
a little bit of a tingle
in my nether region.
Suck it,
Crescentes.
They,
Choke on it.
Okay,
now we're,
now we're,
now we're,
now we're,
now we're,
now we're right into
fish territory.
Okay,
there was,
that's not what I said.
There was two sections,
there was two sections
to the demo.
Yeah.
The common complaint of both,
and actually most of the,
the reviews was that,
this was a totally
nondescript,
there was a walkthrough
where there was no setup,
there was no explanation
for the setting,
what was going on,
why,
what was happening,
you were just dropped in
with the main character
and it was a developer walkthrough
where he walked you through
generic zombie action scene.
Yeah.
No scares,
no fear,
no horror.
Yeah.
Just,
With a very empowered,
like well-equipped character.
Just shooting the zombies
in a tactical third person
shooter fashion.
Thanks Bethesda.
Then,
we enter the second,
which is what people generally
saw as like,
okay this is horror.
Yeah.
Which is the box man.
Yeah.
Which is these giant,
At which point that you
immediately shot him dead.
Yes.
So you get this giant hulking
safe man that's like,
He's like pyramid head man,
but he's got a box.
Yeah.
And he's got a,
he's got a safe on it for a head
and he's got a big burlap sack
and he's all threatening and shit.
And the thing about him is that
they're like, okay,
he's like, he's your,
he's your Salvador,
he's your pyramid head.
And then they kill him in the demo.
He's shot down to death, right?
It's like,
But,
but you run to the next area
and there's another safe
and he's right back.
Yeah.
And then you run away from him,
he'll kill himself,
bleed onto the next one
and continue hunting you.
Yeah.
So there's things set up where it's like,
yeah,
you might think you got away,
but you really didn't.
Yeah.
Um,
this is,
I find it impossible to find the line
between this was a bad demo
or possibly a bad demo.
Yeah.
And it's indicative of the final product.
So,
So,
like I said,
it's mixed,
but even being mixed,
it's worrying because we were all like,
super excited.
We were all like,
9 on 10,
excited.
Assumption of slam dunk status.
Yeah.
Exactly.
Uh,
the other bit with this was,
and then you see,
like,
people talking about how
it's not scary.
I mean,
I forget what,
it was with the Japanese magazine,
I think.
Again,
like you were saying before
in an interview,
I'm sure I read,
but you probably will never be able to source
and I probably made it up where he's talking
about how like,
he pitched Bethesda several ideas
and he didn't quit Capcom
to make survival horror action games.
Yeah.
But that's what Bethesda wanted out of him
as the game.
Right.
Fun.
I hope that's not the case.
I hope he's not phonin' it in.
I mean,
him and his team obviously,
not just him.
The other quote that was coming up was like,
this is very much reminiscent of Resident Evil
for better and for worse.
No,
shut up.
Uh,
so,
Matt also communicated
that he is worried about,
Matt, are you worried about the evil within?
Yeah.
I believe he said like,
the evil within all caps.
Oh Lord, please don't be bad.
Don't be bad, please.
Please be good.
Please get good.
I can't handle two Resident Evil disaster
tons in my lifetime.
Especially not on the first game.
Resident Evil 6 hurt me bad.
I can't have the same,
I can't have Resident Evil 6 again.
It's actually not when your expectation
for the first game in the series.
Well, here's the deal.
Psycho break,
aka evil within.
No, just psycho break.
Fails.
There is no part two.
There's nothing.
It's dead.
Your Resident Evil new version is gone forever.
The horror stays
sucking within.
Whatever they decide to do with RE now.
Patch slot.
Hey, do you think Microsoft will cut
the price of the Xbox One $150 at this point?
I don't.
Moving along.
Hey,
that guy's a fucking idiot.
He's a nut.
Oh my gosh.
Yo,
drink box.
What are drink box up to?
To make a video games that are good
for people like us.
And then they say,
hey,
the Vita is pretty good.
Yeah.
Two by Vita.
Two box announced their new game.
It's called Severed.
Severed.
It looks like Walk of Melee.
A little bit.
Like art style wise.
Good arts.
A lot darker color scheme,
but good arts.
Yeah.
Really was mixed on there.
Gotta be real.
Not a fan of the art style.
Well, you need to,
you're an artist, right?
I'm not a fan of the art style.
I guess not then.
I guess you're not an artist.
I guess I'm an artist now.
Because like I totally,
I like the shapes they're using.
And like you liked Walk of Melee.
I like the Walk of Melee art style.
I like Samurai Jack.
I like Majora's Mask.
I love what's going on with that type of thing.
I think something about the movement,
the flash style animation,
and the colors is rubbing me the wrong way.
Yeah.
And I'm having a hard time putting my finger
exactly on what it is,
but it's not grabbing me.
Well, now I mentioned this before.
This was of course a proof of,
like super proof of concept video.
Not playable,
not free alpha,
not alpha.
Like this was a super proof of concept.
Yeah.
This is a vertical slice demo reel.
That they made an actual flat or something.
Yeah.
Maybe I'm just a little bit spoiled
on Child of Light and Hyper Light Drifter.
I think you are.
Well, what I was going to say is maybe...
My mind is blown by that shit.
Yeah, for sure.
When I see this, I'm like...
It was a good reason.
I look at these and I go,
I go, you know what, Severed?
Yo, Child of Light's coming out this month!
Yeah.
This month!
Goddamn, exactly!
What's going on?
So, and I look at the Severed trailer
and I go, yeah, okay.
I see what you're doing here.
Um...
I...
You know what?
We'll see, I guess.
I think the context will bring a lot of it to you.
But maybe you will.
And I hope that the setting and the more of the world build
will convince me and sell me a bit more.
But just based on that proof of concept trailer,
I am not so...
Also, there's a very clear problem here
where the last game was Ghost Lujadors.
It was awesome.
And this game...
Tough to top that on raw concept alone.
And this game is swiping.
Yeah.
And I might be...
Is there good swiping?
Might be good swiping.
Sure, it could be.
If it's from these guys, I trust it.
But...
You know what?
Like, that's what I'll say.
Not a further doubt, at least.
Coming to all things with the touchscreen.
Yeah.
That's what I'll say.
As much as they could, yeah.
So...
We'll see.
But I need to be further convinced.
Um...
What else is going on?
I don't know.
You've got...
You've got the list of stuff to talk about.
You've got a list right in front of you.
Read the list!
Yo!
Yo!
Did you guys hear me?
Uh...
Pick something else!
Okay.
Well...
No!
Um...
So Oculus has been...
Such an asshole.
Oculus can't even believe how much of an asshole I am sometimes.
Oculus has been in the news quite a bit as of late.
Are you talking about this stupid quote?
Oh my gosh.
This stupid, stupid quote.
This is the dumbest quote in a while.
Like, after having such a big like...
How can someone so smart say something so unbelievably stupid?
I'm fucking beside myself.
Who wants to take this?
Still picking my job off.
You want to take this, Willie?
You got the exact quote, probably.
I don't think it's stupid.
I just think it's worthless.
Traditional TV's to die in a couple of decades.
A couple of decades.
Like, 20 plus years from now.
First of all, I don't believe you.
Okay.
And I think that's ridiculous.
So, second of all, that is a meaninglessly, hugely vague statement.
Okay.
Like, it'll happen in 40 years and they'll be like, I said it.
Hold on, let me...
I showed you.
Let me frame this.
Let me frame this.
So Palmer Lucky is one of the guys that helped found Oculus, the company that's making the
Oculus Rift.
Yeah.
Clearly invested in head-mounted wearable technology.
A little bit.
Yes.
Almost spiritually so.
Almost.
Hey, the people who start that kind of stuff got to be like, true believers.
Yeah.
Because...
They can say...
I hear these guys can only see in first person.
I know, right?
It's nice.
I know.
He says.
That's pretty good.
There's almost no way traditional displays will be around in a couple of decades because
it just won't be feasible.
Yeah.
Why would the world buy 60 inch TVs that even if it worked for dirt sheet, it's still
going to cost a lot to ship.
Because you can't watch porn with someone with head-mounted displays.
You also can't watch it with your loved ones.
That's what I said.
Sorry, sorry.
You also can't watch other things that are not porn with your family.
I don't want to play Smash Bros. 15.
I get my new VidCon machine in the far future.
You can't...
I'm going to want a screen for me and my friends to play on.
You can't even get fucking people to sit around a TV and wear 3D glasses.
Like...
You think people are going to sit around with fuck on a couch and watch head-mounted
drama together?
Like, fucking crazy.
Like, do a calmer...
Like, totally...
You're going to see a future where people are wearing VR more than they are now.
Of course.
It's got to happen.
Sure.
But the idea that it's going to 100% replace the big screen that everyone in a room can
watch means you're completely making the local group experience obsolete.
You have completely forgotten about every single TV scenario that is not...
I'm going to sit down by myself and watch my TV show and do nothing but watch my TV
show.
Half the...
More than half the time that there's something planned on my TV...
I'm looking at my phone.
I'm talking on Google Messenger.
I'm talking to somebody on my phone.
I'm writing something.
I'm editing something.
Like...
Yeah.
No, I know.
I'm eating food.
It's so...
And it is also...
It's almost like wishful thinking in that our thing is going to take off in this extreme
way.
You know, I have a bit I want to say.
I was thinking about it a lot.
And I mean, like, 100% is a lot.
And I think 100%...
100% is a lot!
It's a big figure.
A little bit extreme.
Exactly.
And I think that might be a bit extreme for a lot of parts of the world.
Going halfway.
But, you know, he's talking about head-mounted displays and not just the oculus specifically.
He means...
You got your VR, your AR also.
Google apps.
Or even just a screen strapped to your face.
Sure.
And you can make a fucking cheap, small screen.
Sure.
Strap it to someone's head for real cheap.
And it makes me wonder if in, you know, China, which is developing nation in the up and coming
decades.
Brazil's getting big economic power.
Brazil.
You know, lots of these places where these things might be cheap because they're actually
really inexpensive to just put a head-mounted display together.
These might be really popular for a lot of, you know, singles there, which there are.
Yep.
However, I still...
No part of that statement implies that the usage of the screen, which is totally separate
from what you just described, is going to disappear.
No, exactly.
Like, I think 100% is a bit nuts unless this technology really leaps in some significant
way that we can't even perceive right now.
And I know that you could say that, like, more of the technology might change society or
whatever.
It's just substantial leap that we can't even imagine.
But like, there are still many people nowadays that when you have dinner with the family,
you put the fucking news on on the radio.
Yeah.
Yep.
The fucking radio.
Not even television.
Yep.
You turn on the radio.
Like...
No, and I mean, I know this isn't...
Radio isn't gone.
No.
And this isn't really as old-timey, but I still use a fucking CRT screen.
Yeah.
There's benefits to having different things like that.
No.
Every time I have dinner with the folks, the news is on.
Yeah.
Like, so we can watch the news.
Definitely.
Yeah.
Like, for fuck's sake.
Like, fucking dial it back.
We're going to see a hell of a lot of VR, dude, but it's not going to replace everything.
We see a hell of a lot of VR.
We're going to see a hell of a lot of AR.
Relax.
AR is going to be sick.
Although, AR isn't catching on nearly as much as Google wants it to catch on.
Because nobody's made the leap and demonstrated it in a significant way.
Also, because people hate people that use AR.
A movie theater is going to be a big empty room where you just put glasses on.
Awesome.
He didn't say that, though.
No, but I mean, you know, that's where...
No, I know.
You know what I mean?
That's the mentality.
That's the bit where you're like 100% almost impossible because of that.
Unless the outside world becomes uninhabitable.
Right?
And we use teleporters to get around.
Like...
Like...
Yeah.
Optimism to the point of farce.
And you know what?
I'm just going to go ahead and fucking bank on the fact that hundreds of thousands of
people just never want to wear headgear.
I'm fully confident.
You guys are both super down for it.
I'm fully confident there's going to be a really high percentage of people that never
or can't wear these devices.
That's what I'm saying is you guys are super down for it.
Right?
So it's in your interest.
I personally know people that are not at all interested in this.
Yeah, for sure.
And again, we'll see what happens.
Dude, I'm interested to try it, but I'm not necessarily interested.
I need to know that I don't get crippling migraines from these things.
Yeah.
No, and before it hits 90%, we're going to have to see a...
And I know that's my conservative figure in contrast to Lucky.
But what I'm saying is for it to even get anywhere approaching that, which is still
fucking bananas, it has to make some substantial leap that we can't even visualize now.
Also...
That is so incredibly mind-boggling.
I think...
But what?
I think...
But I don't know.
I've used the virtual boy, man.
I think the part...
Dude, that's not even fucking...
I think the part of this...
Like, I fell in him in advance too.
I think the part of this...
That makes everyone jump and scream and go, what the fuck's so hard?
It's like, dude, you'll be lucky to hit 10% in the next 20 years.
It's funny because his name's Lucky.
Right?
Like, you better get real lucky.
Yeah.
I foresee market penetration of this form of device beings.
Yeah.
And you better be talking about all head-mounted displays and not just VR, because VR is going
to be even slower.
Yeah.
You crazy, man.
And I...
Like, to me, the future I see, the fucking Blade Runner future that we're heading to...
Oh, I can't wait.
Is going to be filled with giant TV screens everywhere.
Yeah.
Not just in my house.
In dangerous robots.
In every hallway and in every outside corner.
It's...
It's going that way, man.
Like, what are you on?
You know what?
True believers.
We just invented 4K for nothing?
Like, what?
Yes, actually.
Come back.
Come back.
How am I going to...
We did invent 4K.
How am I going to satisfy...
Well, come back when it's cheap.
...my gadget lust-e-peen me to show off my big-ass TV when everybody comes over and is super
jealous, when I want to throw the game on and have a brusque with the boys at my barbecue.
Dude, I can't wait for the first, like, first-person VR thing to have an in-game sequence where you
put on a VR headset.
Yeah.
I can't wait for that.
Yeah.
Dude, I can't wait for that.
That's going to be the moment where you're like...
I was going to throw an as-I-play Madden and Call of Duty at the same time.
There you go.
Yeah, damn.
One in each eyeball.
One in each eyeball.
Yeah.
Xbox Madden Call of Duty.
I can't wait for that crossover.
And it just...
Where the footballers have guns?
And all of a sudden...
Damn, that's going to be good.
And all of a sudden, the little chute on the Oculus opens up and starts pouring that
beer down your throat.
In your eyes?
Yeah, in your eyes.
Yeah, and you're fucking drinking.
It just pours on your eyes.
No, it's like LCL.
It just fills up and it's numb, dude.
And you could only stop it by lifting your hands in the air and saying McDonald's.
McDonald's.
It's a good point, Matt.
Candy Crush Saga.
Fuck you.
Fuck you.
You're done.
You're done.
Moving on.
No, no, no.
You're going to say it because it's a fucking joke.
How come you think the film says...
Oh, our heroes are insured with protagonists.
We are not evil villains building an empire.
You're not despite taking empire building steps and being evil villains about it.
Because the problem is only a perceived problem.
You see, according to King, they're not really being evil, greedy and ridiculous.
You just are unfamiliar with legal.
And it's usually boring to watch people.
Me being unfamiliar with legal does not change my knee-jerk reaction of that's evil.
I just want to say, these guys are fucking assholes.
But they're not Hitler.
They are not building an evil empire.
For anyone out there who's actually thinking we're substantiating that, we're not.
But they are complete assholes.
Aren't they being sued right now by an indie developer?
It's okay, they'll kill him.
Who's basically like, give the word Saga-backed people?
I mean, like, are they being sued?
Yes, they're being sued by everybody.
But that's besides the point.
The point is that they say that they're only perceived as being evil because people are unfamiliar with legal.
Also because people love knee-jerk reactions.
And in general, if they looked into it, they would see that their copyright actions are not that unusual at all.
Oh, but that doesn't, in fact, change the evil quotient.
It just means that they're the evil that I've recognized.
Yep, they're just total assholes.
You can say, hey man, hey, hey, just because I beat my wife doesn't make me evil.
Everybody beats their wa- fuck off.
You're an evil company.
I-I-I control- I control-
You shouldn't be, like, sitting on copyrights in such a manner.
You shouldn't beat your wife, and you shouldn't sit on abusive copyright.
I control F to the article for pac-evade, and I didn't see it.
So, uh, fuck off, King.
Keep on fucking off.
It's- it's terrible.
Like, it's fucking-
That's really hilarious to me.
It's not the worst, but it's terrible.
Because, like, they're evil and they have all this money, but, like, we're hurting their feelings.
Right?
Well, in all fairness, there are tons of employees.
Yeah, sure.
And not all of them are complete assholes.
But they did choose to work there.
They probably pay us the bills pretty well.
Sure.
Like, if I worked for an evil company, I would say, yeah, and I would deal with it.
Yeah.
Although, I don't think anyone's making a Nazi comparison.
Like, we're-
Well, it's the people who are out there and saying they are actually evil.
Someone is making one right.
Yeah.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
It's like, King is the- King are the Nazis of the 21st century.
No, the Nazis were the Nazis of the 21st century.
Exactly.
The Nazis of the 20th century.
That still exists today.
But they don't have the clout.
They don't have the clout, let's say.
None of the less.
None of the less.
The Nazis of the Nazis of the 21st century.
No, it's just the killer hyperbole always gets me.
Because you're right that they're the worst, but they're not the worst.
We're taking a lot of hard-line political stances here.
Oh, totally.
Dexnate your kids.
Don't be a Nazi.
There you go.
And nobody's a Nazi because nobody's been that bad since.
Nobody's had the ability to be that bad since.
Yeah, man.
We're really like stirring up a lot.
God bless America.
Fuck you, AIDS.
Yeah.
Moving on to Chemtrails.
You said it.
You heard me.
Moving on to Chemtrails.
You heard me.
Chemtrails are real.
The Nazis are giving us Chemtrails to make us have AIDS.
Thanks, Obama.
Thanks, Obama.
Obama.
You know what his middle name is?
Who's saying?
Oh, coincidence.
Yes.
I think not.
You know who else has the name who's saying?
Who?
Chemtrails.
This is about video games.
As if 1333 weren't bad enough.
We found out this week that there was a Darth Maul game in the works that also got canceled.
So in case that terrible whirlwind day of look at all these canceled Star Wars games wasn't
bad enough, there was a good looking Darth Maul action game.
Now, on top of it, here's what's awesome about this story.
The game was canceled for whatever.
And now when I say whatever, I actually mean whatever.
So let's start out.
Redfly was contracted to work on the Darth Maul Origins game.
It was going to take a look at his past.
The action game lightsabers and shit.
Now, they got in touch with Lucas.
This whole thing started up and whatever.
They started working on it.
Apparently, they're citing two major problems as the major stoppers that led to why this game was canceled.
One, they started working on the game.
Eventually, they were told by LucasArts that they wanted it to tie in with the Clone Wars animated bullshit that was happening at the time.
Great.
Whatever.
Awesome.
But then they proceeded to give them no material or writing or information.
Tied in with what, though?
About Darth Maul.
Oh.
So they're like, guys, what are we doing with this game?
And they're like, we don't want to give out information because they were afraid of leaks and they were afraid of any kind of like...
You told me to write the thing.
Secrets coming in.
You didn't tell me what my rules were, but if I ask the rules, you're like, I can't tell you.
But if I write something that breaks the rules, you'll be like, that breaks the rules.
All I've got is blasters in the forest and the forest night might not even be in this.
Their leak prevention policy stopped them from giving them information about Darth Maul to the company they contracted to make a Darth Maul game.
I don't understand what the fuck.
I'd like to think that the person who leaked this information wasn't in on everything because that sounds so incredulous.
But when you hear the second part of this, you go, oh, no, maybe it wasn't incredulous because Lucas himself fucking walks into a room, right?
And he grabs a little statue of Darth Maul and he grabs another one of Darth Talon.
Now, for those of you who don't know Darth Talon, you might not know her name, but you know who she is because you've seen her before.
She's the Twilex Sith that looks like Darth Maul.
That's it, she's the one.
She's the red Sith you've seen her everywhere with the big red lightsaber and the crazy black things on her face and tattoos and stuff.
She looks cool, really badass.
He looks at this statue and he looks at Maul and he turns them to face each other and he goes, they're friends.
And everyone in the room goes, George, they fucking lived 500 years apart from each other.
This doesn't make sense.
That's how George Lucas likes Star Wars back story.
They don't, they can't possibly exist together.
How are they friends?
Let's remember.
Oh, but listen to where this goes.
He then goes, oh, well, you know, okay, well then whatever, maybe you're not controlling Darth Maul.
Maybe you're playing as a clone or a descendant of his, whatever.
Shut up.
And on a fucking fart of a whim decides that, hey, maybe you're not Darth Maul, you're playing as some other guy that's kind of like Darth Maul.
Oh my god, this game got canceled.
Yeah, let's remember Lucas.
I think one of the other reasons for it is it got super canned during the transition of Lucas arts and stuff.
And that was probably also a contractual thing on Disney's part when they picked it up and EA acquired all rights for all video games.
Was that the slate had to be blank?
And the other detail that popped out, which I didn't catch in my article, but you read about this was that it was Wii U exclusive originally.
At one time it was a Nintendo game.
It was for, I believe, Wii N Wii U and then eventually Wii U and then eventually Wii U 360 and PS3.
Not the only Star Wars game.
The most confusing thing.
And you know what? I fucking love Darth Maul. I'd love to see more from him.
It reminds me of back when I think was Kotor 3 was coming out where basically EA or Bioware asked for permissions like can we just do this thing or whatever?
It's like Lucas just handwaves and just destroys like the background stories of like a thousand novels that have been written with his explicit permission.
Like the expanded universe for Star Wars has been going on since the 70s, right?
Oh, now I remember.
Boba Fett was a Mandalorian or whatever, right?
So there's all these books written on that race and all that.
And then he just goes, no, he was a clone of this guy and he's like, well, all those books are fucking trash now.
Totally.
Like Lucas has a long history of just like going like, it doesn't know his own universe.
It's too expensive.
And then just goes, wouldn't it be cool if this and everyone goes, no?
And he goes, yeah, what's this now?
Well, literally he looked at the two toys and he saw they were red and black.
And he went, oh, hey, we got a thing.
These two, huh?
It's like every time...
Let's make it happen, guys.
Every time you try and find something to care about in Star Wars, like it's actively removed.
Yeah.
Like Kotor 2, the best Star Wars anything to ever happen doesn't exist.
It doesn't happen anymore.
Okay.
Didn't count.
Didn't happen.
My favorite best Star Wars thing to ever exist is the original Clone Wars cartoon.
Well, that's a good pick too.
I bet that's been retconned also.
Been replaced by the 3D thing.
Great.
Awesome.
So Katan.
Fuck Lucas.
It's the fuck baby Joe.
Like the most incredulous mess.
You hear that shit?
You can't become any more of a mess until people come forward and tell you no.
It's more of a mess.
You don't know how much of a mess.
You hear about that shit, how in the fucking prequels there was actually supposed to be
like a baby Han Solo character?
Oh, fuck you.
No.
Plinkett joked about it.
I don't believe it.
Plinkett joked about it in his reviews about how like they're supposed to be, like wouldn't
it have been easy to put baby Han Solo there at the end?
And then it comes out that there was totally going to be a baby Han Solo.
Oh, fuck off.
No way.
Yes.
And then somehow somebody was like, no George.
No.
Come on.
What do you mean somehow?
You mean thank God someone had sense.
I know.
Was it Steven?
I don't know, man.
I don't remember the details.
Was it George's wife?
Other than it was supposed to exist.
Christ.
Hope it was George's wife.
Yeah.
So there you go.
Honey, I'm retconning your dinner.
That sucked.
Dammit, George.
I hate you.
They actually are aware that like Baba and Maul are cool characters that you can expand.
But before we get away from George, the better Star Wars looks.
So in a few decades.
Like honestly, J. Abrams plate.
So false.
I can't.
I can't.
J. Abrams didn't even want to do it.
He was so intimidated by the scale.
Yeah.
And like the fact that he might actually salvage something.
Something.
He can't save it.
No.
But he can salvage.
He can start it on the path to being good again.
He can grab the wheel and tilt it a few degrees out of his hands.
Because he doesn't have to stick to the episode 789 that have been retold in like.
The expanded universe.
12 books.
That shit's all gone.
Yeah.
Apparently he is taking some elements of it.
There's some characters that are way too big that you can't ignore.
You can't ignore Marajade.
I bet we're going to see Leia with a light saber in that shit.
You can't ignore Marajade.
You can't ignore the kids.
You know what I mean?
Like that's a thing at this point.
It's way too.
And midichlorians.
I fucking wish you could.
But you know what?
You know what?
J. Abrams is really good.
Like a kind of goofy tongue and cheek.
Like it's kind of serious sometimes.
Action adventure movie.
Yeah.
Sure.
Yeah.
Sure.
Like when I watched Star Trek.
I was like wow.
That felt a lot like Star Wars.
And you know what?
Not like Star Trek.
And it won't be a trilogy about like what's currently happening in Lucas's life.
Like the intergalactic federation diapers are really shitty.
I got married.
At holding in my irritable bowels because I'm an old man now.
Oh taxes.
What's Jar Jar a metaphor for?
Jar Jar is a metaphor for capitalism.
You think?
Straight up.
He's like we got to put Jar Jar into babies.
Because babies like the bunny rabbit.
The poops.
Oh that's what you mean.
Like he was the mascot character.
Yeah.
He was fucking shit.
Yeah.
Oh my god.
That's not even.
God I'm depressed now.
Me too.
Okay.
Moving along.
We got a quote unquote first look at Jaden Beyond Good and Evil 2.
Did we?
Did we though?
Yeah.
Did we or didn't we?
Well basically it was artwork that matched exactly what we saw in that first, right?
Very similar.
But like it looks pretty damn cool.
Are you sure it's something?
Are you sure it's not nothing?
Yeah.
Well okay there's a tweet that was put out from Dan Hines Twitter, GameSpotEditor.
And it's basically him in a room with a bunch of UB people I think.
And he's holding up artwork that is Jade.
And it looks pretty fucking cool.
No, that's what's his face holding up the artwork.
Fucking, fucking, god I can't remember his fucking name.
He made Rayman.
Oh damn it.
Michelle Ansel.
Michelle Ansel.
Is it him?
And this picture was taken from a stream for Rayman Legends next gen versions that took place 15 days ago.
Let me see the top of his head.
Is it actually him?
Fact-checking will ruin this podcast.
Fact-checking will ruin this podcast.
You're right man.
Thanks man.
That can be him.
That can be him.
Cause this was a stream from the Ubisoft offices for Rayman Legends.
Okay, yeah so Jade will be a remarkable sprite character in Rayman Legends.
Well either way.
Dirty out.
Okay.
Dude but it's Young and Evil 2 is fucking happening.
It's happening as shit.
It might actually be real.
So it's been happening for fucking years.
No it hasn't.
Yes it has.
In 2008 I believe was the first thing.
Where they were like we've been working on it for a year but we're waiting for the right tools and the right ecosystem.
That didn't happen.
2009 is still in that state.
See when I hear that.
2010 it was still in limbo but it was super still in development.
2011 was where they said okay we're starting to come together and that was when Beyond Good and Evil HD came out.
And they were like yeah this is a thing.
2012 was formally announced that hey yes it's in development for existence.
2013 we got no news.
It's fucking happening as shit.
It's gonna be the E3 show closer.
We saw that screenshot of Paige man.
Don't forget about Paige.
I believe you.
I don't believe them.
Like that's the problem.
It's gonna be their closer in E3 this year man.
When five years ago it's like we're doing a thing.
No you're not.
Five years ago they said it wasn't ready.
Five years ago they said the tools weren't ready and it wasn't the right time.
You know what at the very least we know one thing.
The one fact we know is that they're trying something.
Sure.
And it's still in development.
Here's how you avoid my cynicism.
You ready?
Don't put out a teaser and then do nothing for three years.
It's been more than three years.
Okay well great.
Great.
Great.
But don't announce a thing.
Okay.
Are we counting from the screenshot or the video?
The video.
Or nine.
Whichever one it was.
That was eight.
Five or six years.
It's like don't do that and then do nothing.
It's no Final Fantasy XV but it's getting there.
That was bad.
Dude this is happening.
Last Guardians this year.
No.
Every year.
Every year is the last guardian.
Every year.
Every year.
And Mirrors Edge 2.
I am sure we'll join them.
Cancel this fuck.
No.
I have no faith in that game.
It was cancelled in the LucasArts acquisition.
Why?
No reason.
I have so...
I have anti-faith in Mirrors Edge 2.
That's not wrong.
I think it's gonna be good.
Why are you keeping my waifus away from me?
I think...
Just keep me my waifus.
I think not want my Jade.
I want my faith.
Give it.
I think that not only is it not going to come out.
It will be a debacle and five years from now will be discussed in terms that will lead
you to believe that they will never give it another shot.
That is how much I don't believe that game is going to happen.
I think it's gonna happen.
I can't.
The kind of thing where eight years from now there's an interview and he's like, whatever
happened to Mirrors Edge 2?
And the guy goes, oh.
Let me tell you about microtransactions.
You had to pay to take her long hair away.
It'll be a runner for the iPhone 6.
I was skeptical of that trailer and the more that there's been nothing and the more that
dice gets trapped underneath battlefields, I have no idea.
It's gonna happen.
It's gonna happen.
And they never hand it off.
Dice isn't that small.
I really hope that one day somebody can tally up the Pat and Liam optimism versus cynicism.
And do one.
Tally.
Because there was nothing that I would like more in this world to be proven wrong about
that, right?
And it's like, oh, Liam was actually his optimism bore out actual things like six times out
of ten or something.
Your fucking cynic and optimism power levels are unbelievably out of control.
Like I say this as a normal human.
I have normal human levels.
You guys are on fucking like dueling and spectrums.
Don't worry.
Everything's gonna happen.
Everything confirmed.
Hey, let's remember Phantasy Star Online 2 coming out in 2014.
This year.
Get excited.
Yep.
That wager.
That wager that has totally been carried over for a whole year in North America and Europe.
Which one?
I'm gonna consider it the West in English.
I think not Asia in English.
It's not Asia in English.
Yeah.
Well, it's coming out this year.
If it be Europe, I'd be like, fuck, technically count.
If it's Europe, it'll eventually bleed over.
Because my feeling about that is just like never, never, never, never, never, never, never.
It's completely, that game is completely finished on Vita.
Completely finished in English on Vita for months and months and months.
Is it English on Vita?
I thought it was just PC.
No, it's the Vita version's done.
Oh, nice.
And the PC version isn't.
So it's even more confirmed then.
Confirmed for never.
Ever 2014.
I witnessed the handshake.
It was $40 on this one.
Yeah, it was $40.
Right?
We doubled it from last year.
Because we couldn't remember if we even...
Yeah, we couldn't remember the specifics of the ban from last time.
So we just went double or nothing.
I'm gonna throw some words out.
Okay?
Yeah.
And...
Are we doing free association here?
Not even free association.
No, we're gonna do it.
It's just...
There are some words.
Okay?
Fender cats.
Biker mice.
Gundam wing.
Gundam Zero.
Sailor Moon.
Sailor Mars.
Okay.
Those answers were all wrong.
The correct answer to all of those...
Is Megan Fox.
Megan Fox.
Yeah, exactly.
Megan Fox says...
No, that's the wrong answer, Willie.
She is definitely interested in doing...
I bet she is.
A theoretical Sailor Moon live action movie.
Yeah.
Who wouldn't want to be Sailor Moon?
Megan Fox, it turns out, is a fan of Sailor Moon.
Yeah.
The Gundam Wing and Thundercats.
You know what?
And anime stuff in general.
I bet she's also a fan of Sailor Moon.
She's also a fan of getting paid and not becoming a total failed actress.
Yeah.
And she says that she doesn't know how Sailor Moon fared over here.
Or how popular it was.
So she doesn't know if it ever happened.
I get the feeling that it was way more popular than anyone knows.
See that research, man.
But this whole thing with random star being like, yeah, I like this thing.
Like, Megan Fox likes this Gundam Wing.
Keanu Reeves is into Cowboy Bebop for some reason.
I don't see what's so surprising about it.
That doesn't shock me at all.
And Leonardo DiCaprio being into Akira?
But I don't see like, no, he's in Akira.
You know what?
He's into it, but I know he's in it.
Which got canceled and laughed off.
Yeah, exactly.
I don't know if he's into it or not.
Did you read that shit?
Oh, yeah.
Oh, my God.
Oh, yeah.
You guys, if anybody familiar with Akira was not aware that there was going to be a western
live action adaptation of Akira, that script is out there.
You can just type that into Google and read it.
Go read it.
Go read that shit.
I could not make it very far.
Shit is the right word.
Oh, my God.
It got laughed off of the fucking...
There's also on cracks, there's a write up of the script in general.
The summary is pretty good.
It's apt.
It's very good.
It is the worst thing that has ever been created by a human being.
I read the original Superman Return scripts.
Oh, yeah, you did.
I mean, there was worse things too.
Like Kevin Smith was like...
Yeah, before he came on board.
But yeah, the idea of a live action, any of those things is like...
Sorry, Megan Fox.
You've been talking about Megan Fox or including her in any way.
It gives me shivers.
You know, I like that people know what this stuff is, but not everything needs to be a
big live action adaptation.
You know what?
I would say nothing needs to be a big live action adaptation.
Nothing needs to be a big live action adaptation.
Something needs to be a big live action adaptation.
Somethings would just...
Oh, somethings would just...
Way to fuck up the podcast.
We got a...
I'm sorry, Matt.
Look, I think some things are suited for them, right?
Some types of stories you go, you know what, I could see that.
Like, I would never have thought that Cowboy Bebop could be turned into live action.
And then I watched Serenity and it was like, I got it.
Hey, it's more than that.
Sure, but like, it's the proof.
It could happen.
Speaking of which, fucking based Netflix comes through again.
What are we doing this?
We're hopping on the based train.
Oh my...
When did you stop saying based?
I never started.
I said it just today.
I need to know if, as a group, we're starting to say based.
We've been on it forever.
TV is so...
Because when I first read that Oculus article, I thought he was saying TV as a service.
Me too, me too, yeah.
And I was like, oh, he's so on the...
Well, my initial reaction was that's the dumbest thing to say,
because of course you're going to be right.
You're just putting your name on it.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly.
And then after I read it, I was like,
I predict the sun will rise tomorrow.
But it's like, no, man.
Fuck you.
Honestly, fucking like, all these stupid TV execs at these stupid production companies
on television can't get their shit together.
And Netflix is like, yo, what do people like?
Arrested development?
Fun that shit.
I bumped that.
Yo, what do people like?
Futurama?
I bumped that.
Fucking Firefly?
Take it.
You see the...
You see...
You for real?
What?
Firefly was their April Fool's joke.
Oh no.
Are you serious?
Oh god, did I get fucking head?
Firefly was their April Fool's joke.
Did I get super god?
You got super head.
I got god.
Holy shit, because someone reposted that today.
Yeah.
And I'm like, we're well beyond.
And we're in the middle of...
It's still going about.
And for the record, since we never took the time to address it on the podcast ever, for
some reason, Harold Ramis is in fact dead.
We talked about having that retraction and just never did it.
No, I totally posted it on the website.
But not on the podcast.
All right.
Yes.
Turns out he is.
Yep.
I'm sorry.
Damn.
There was one that got me to this year.
Damn.
You fucked up.
You fucked up.
You fucked up.
Shit, I'm gonna fuck up.
I got that.
But you're gonna replace that with original good content, like House of Cards.
House of Cards season two.
You see this.
Amazing.
You see the one as well.
Netflix exclusive.
You see the head of...
What was it?
FX getting super mad that Netflix is gonna be able to put true detect...
Not Netflix.
Netflix is burning the fucking network names off of the shows that they run.
And bitching about.
They got people for drama, like McConaughey's.
We could never get it.
You are so soft.
Do you fucking know how Netflix decides part of what they incorporate onto their podcast,
onto their programming?
They look at torrent numbers.
Yeah, they look at torrent numbers.
Of course.
Because that makes sense.
What's hot?
Some people on the internet want to pay for it.
Where's the mindshare at?
It's so smart.
But it's not even smart.
It's obvious.
Yeah.
Because the only thing quicker than a torrent is Netflix.
Because TV...
It's such a role.
But we're calling it smart, but it's so...
It's a given.
And the fucking dinosaurs at these other networks are done.
They need to fucking...
Let's distract.
They need to just fall into the earth and become fossil fuels.
We gotta stop using this.
Mooli, it's the story of every age.
We're in our late 20s, not Liam.
We are now mad at old people.
Because old people remain alive and are making decisions that we disagree with.
In 20 years, they will be dead.
And we will be the new old people.
And there will be many youths screaming about how they want to marry their alligators.
And we will say fuck you.
Look, I...
I don't give a shit.
I don't give a shit either, actually.
Just trying to make an analogy.
As a watcher of Game of Thrones, I happened to cross paths with some information that
indicated that 60,000 to 70,000 people were also online downloading the episode of Game
of Thrones.
You just happened to notice.
I happened to notice these statistics.
Did they put that in the Twitter feed on TV?
Yeah, they did.
It's, you know, I mean, I watched it on my television.
And your HBO subscription.
And then I saw on the internet what was happening.
It's bananas, isn't it?
It's nuts.
And it makes me think, like, I know there's HBO Go on demand, but this is not as widely
available.
It is.
It's not as widely available as it fucking should be.
As it should be.
It's what Newell has been saying for a long time in regards to China and Russia, particularly.
And also parts of, like, Sweden and Finland.
People say you can't sell PC games there because everybody pirates.
And Newell says, and Steam says, well, yeah, but buying a PC game there legit sucks.
So make it easier than piracy.
And Steam is easier than piracy.
So I spent a lot of money on PC games.
So guess what?
Because it's easy.
Well, Steam fucking saved the PC as a gaming platform.
Never been bigger.
You see that number recently?
Oh, yeah.
PC business has never been bigger.
Of course.
You know, surprise there.
PC software.
Yeah.
And it's just like, until Game of Thrones is easily and readily available on a subscription
service that I can get here.
You're going to keep seeing those weird numbers.
Yeah, it's weird.
It's going to be like, oh, this is a weird number.
It's going to show up, you know?
Yeah.
Yeah, fucking weird.
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Oh, now I remember.
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Exactly.
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And you're like, hey, I want to get surprised with a little bit of a comic-con feeling.
And surprises are the spice of life, really.
Exactly, Liam.
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Of course.
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What if it's $13.37?
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Why are you crying, Matt?
It's letter time.
Matt, what?
No, Matt.
Matt.
It's letter time.
Letter time is okay.
Okay.
Okay.
Matt.
Matt.
If you were going to send in a letter to our podcast, where would you send it?
At.
Dot.
Super best friend.
Yeah.
I'm having trouble understanding, man.
He has to be coming out with a call or something.
You know, it's super best friendcast at gmail.com.
You can write in, you can send us a letter.
That's super best friendcast at gmail.com.
You can send us funny e-letters, too.
Yep.
We even take e-cards.
And we'll read them, we'll read some of them.
We'll read the good ones.
Yeah.
Hey, Matt, did you hear that Punisher's movie, New One, just got canceled?
I guess he did.
Oh, yeah.
Super heard of.
Hitomi Jacobs getting out of porn.
And she's getting a breast reduction.
She's getting on the charity now.
That doesn't make any sense.
Yeah, it does.
Somehow.
All right.
Let's get into these emails.
Let's check some emails.
LordfunkyFist.
I like this guy.
LordfunkyFist.
Makes me think of the Blacker Baron.
What are y'all thinking?
Yeah.
We can see that.
Yeah.
What are y'all opinions on six-button fighters versus ones with less?
Wait, there are others?
I got this guy.
I like six-button fighters.
I got no problem with the four-button fighter or five-button fighter or three-button fighter.
I used to be a scrub that didn't understand the importance of medium punch.
I distinctly remember playing Third Strike at your house and you were telling me that
Kingsley told you that you're an idiot because mediums are important.
Amazingly important.
And I look at you and go, what?
Mediums are important?
Yeah.
We were fucking scrubs.
And that was back when we used to map the fucking lights and fierces to the front of
the PlayStation 3 pad.
And mediums on top.
And mediums on top.
Because who cares about mediums?
Exactly.
God, you were idiots.
Unbelievable stupid idiots.
I've learned and I've come to appreciate the six-button fighter because the range of options
you have is unparalleled.
Yeah.
That being said.
I like me some King of Fighters.
I love some four-button fighters.
Totally.
CVS-1 I really enjoyed.
CVS-2 came out and it was great too.
It had more options for your footsies.
Even two-button fighters can be fun.
Even two-button fighters can be fun.
Matching the millennium.
I was playing that this morning on the Metro.
Some guy was like, what the fuck are you playing, a calculator?
So I will never talk down to anyone that prefers less buttons in that regard.
Yeah.
And the game is well made enough because fucking the deepest, most complicated fighting game,
Virtua Fighter.
Has three.
It has three buttons.
And it's nuts.
So I prefer six or three.
I don't like four.
I love games that have four, but my hand on the stick feels better with either three.
So they can be on all of them.
Yeah.
Or on six where they can be on most of them.
It's weird, but I agree with that arbitrary measure.
And I know people are saying-
I know people are saying-
Five is weird too.
I know a lot of people are saying that five is weird.
Five is not just weird.
Five is awful.
I know a lot of people are saying BlazBlue has four buttons.
Yeah.
And you put them in such a way that you can hold on-
On your four fingers, yeah.
I find that actually kind of weird.
I prefer three and six, totally.
It's weird, but I agree with you.
Four on a straight line, I got used to playing-
I can't stand the SNK four on a straight line.
Yeah, four on a straight line.
I didn't like it either, but I like the Q.
If I have to do it, I like the Q.
Yeah, the Q is nice.
The worst thing ever, and I don't care what the fuck anyone says,
is for your five button layout.
Yeah.
Where a fucking tech end, not tech end, sorry,
more Mortal Kombat with its block button in the middle.
In the middle.
Which you have to pull a fucking finger out of the middle of your palm to press it.
No, you put your palm down.
Oh yeah, there you go.
Like, they admit it.
They actually admitted that they had no reason for putting a block button in,
except for wanting to be different from Street Fighter.
Yeah.
This is stated.
Yeah.
So, fuck.
And they still hold on to that bad decision all these years later.
While Injustice, they finally-
Until Injustice.
I was shocked.
Which is why-
I don't like Injustice.
I'm fine with Injustice.
But let me just finish.
I don't like Injustice.
I'm shocked at how much more I like Injustice,
because you can hold back to that.
Yeah.
Well, also Injustice provided the funniest interview ever,
where Ed Boone was asked by a camera who it was,
Will Injustice have fatalities.
And Ed Boone says,
You know, it's funny.
We get this question every time we make a game.
And I think if we made even a puzzle game,
people would ask that question.
At which point, the interviewer said,
Well, you know, you did make a puzzle game.
I think that was one of the guys who dropped off.
I think it was Jeff Gershman.
It's like, you did make a puzzle game,
and you did have fatalities.
And he just says,
Oh, fuck.
Completely having forgotten that.
That is pretty hilarious.
And that wasn't even that long ago.
It was Injustice time.
Last year.
No, I mean, like the puzzle game.
That was for MK7.
It was in the DS one.
Deception.
Deception.
MK6.
It was totally broad.
I think they remade it on the DS too.
Maybe.
Maybe I'm mistaken.
I don't know Mortal Kombat 2.
And then the other interview,
it's like, I think if we put Scorpion into the game,
it would betray,
we're not very confident in Injustice.
And then the final character is Scorpion.
And you're just like, fuck, man.
Come on.
Backing down.
The back down.
So the back down.
The forward step.
There's still secrets in MK2 we haven't found.
Like, the next MK game is not going to have Scorpion
and Sub-Zero in it.
Really?
Really?
And guess what?
You did that once,
and people fucking lost it.
When did they do that?
MK3 original.
When they dropped Scorpion.
You're right.
You're right.
And it sucked.
That's why no one ever cares about MK3.
Everyone cares about Ultimate MK3.
Scorpion.
Yeah, yeah.
Scorpion.
Blarix says...
Hello there.
Hey, Zybatzu.
What's up?
You guys always call the Xbox One an X-Bone.
It sounds negative.
You know what, Blarix?
It does.
It does.
Next question.
Should we go into that at all?
Richard says...
You want to address that?
Like...
It does sound negative.
You're right.
You're right.
Good observation, dude.
We don't...
I hate it.
It just...
It does sound negative.
I do retain a pejorative thing to it a little bit.
A little bit for me, too.
Because of that reveal and the creation of the term X-Bone.
And he was just hilarious.
Good observation, Blarix.
Richard says...
I call Liam an asshole dumbass sometimes.
I know.
That sounds negative.
Love you, Pat.
Richard says...
Are the people who make no effort to understand my taste worth confronting?
If I think they might have similar tastes?
Okay.
Or should I just be happy to know that I better not speak to them again?
Can you try and contextualize this for me?
Okay.
I'm having trouble latching onto it.
Okay.
So the full...
The full paragraph says...
You guys appreciate good game OSTs and remixes.
You do?
I listen...
That's all I listen to.
The question is...
Pretty much me, too, actually.
So...
The question of what kind of music you listen to is thrown around a lot.
And honestly, it's often met with snickers and ridicule.
I feel very uncomfortable answering that question for this reason.
So my question is...
Are the people who make no effort to understand my taste worth confronting?
Or should I be happy that I know better not to speak to them again?
Only...
I'm confronting...
Let's zoom this out and go like...
If you know something is good...
And you think somebody might enjoy it because they have similar tastes in other things.
And then they just straight up dismiss it.
Should you try to sell them?
Or should you just be like, and let them have their opinion?
It depends.
It depends on how well you know them, I think.
Yeah, because you don't want to sort of fight and just make them hate you.
Like Liam, you talk a lot about some dumb bullshit.
All the time.
But...
Even though I constantly dismiss you...
You made the case for Samurai Flamenco that I ended up watching it and enjoyed it.
Yeah.
But you picked that one.
You're like, I'm gonna...
You can't...
You gotta fight your...
You gotta choose your battles.
You gotta choose your battles.
Exactly.
But only in the closer or better...
You know somebody easier that battle.
And like I've seen it happen multiple times.
And in some cases it's just never gonna work.
In other cases, I remember when you were a couple of years into Attack on Titan and you brought it up.
And again, you picked your battle there and you went, you know, this is a thing...
It's great.
And then you guys ended up liking it.
Yeah.
And I was like, okay, let me hear the setting.
Let me hear the thing.
Let me hear the premise.
Oh, this is not cutesy.
This is mature.
This is handling itself in a serious manner.
Okay.
All right.
Let's see what's going on.
That being said, you need to know the person really well.
Probably the guy at work who you mentioned it and goes, don't.
Yeah.
Don't even.
Don't even try.
Like, you know, if he has tastes that are similar to something, I'm not saying trick him.
But sometimes tricking works.
Sometimes tricking works.
But like if he likes a good orchestra or something, maybe you want to make him listen to the main theme for Resident Evil Revelations or Soul Sacrifice, which are great orchestral pieces.
Well, you could be standing in line with a dude who, you know, likes Metal Gear that says, I just don't understand this revengeance crap.
What a piece of shit.
Yeah.
I can't believe they spent their money making this game.
This Afro Samurai game is pretty good, though.
I've got a copy of Afro Samurai that I'm about to trade in for Assassin's Creed.
Yeah.
You know, you look at it and you think for a minute and you go, should I even try?
Is it even worth it?
Yeah, and that situation is no.
As you pick your battles and you have to realize that there are some battles that no matter how right or well-intentioned you are, you're going to lose.
And it sucks.
Because the other person is wrong.
He's already dismissed this as a button mashing game.
He doesn't even know where to begin.
Yeah.
So why even try?
Why don't you?
Save your energy on fights you don't think you can win and put them into fights you think you can win.
Yeah.
So look at their taste, evaluate your relationship with them, give it a go.
Finding common ground is the easiest one.
So you told me Attack on Titan was good.
I was like, eh, and then somebody told me it was Berserk Spider-Man.
I was like, oh, okay.
I think that's really awesome.
I really like that.
I immediately went, oh, yeah, good, good.
I'm watching it.
On the list.
Check that out on the Digital Locker.
Yep.
Mark says, what do you guys think about fan-made games and if there had to be a Super Best Friends game, what genre would it be?
They're a totally Super Best Friends game.
Maybe a card game.
There's tons, there's tons.
It'd be a card game.
Now there's tons of questions that come in about this type of thing.
It'd be a dating sim.
Yeah, sure.
I would love to play that.
I would love to play a dating sim.
Unabashedly.
Where now I am a character.
That's it.
I would love it too.
To see what people think that would be like.
I would love it.
Next question.
They go to, for a lot of people, whatever they bring this up, is that they want to make the four player beat-em-up type of thing.
And that, that sounds cool.
That would be awesome.
The guy who made the Skyrim mods totally making an RPG maker game.
Yes, that's happening as well.
Really awesome.
I wish I...
Jamie.
Jamie, thank you.
I forget every time I'm such an asshole, Jamie.
I'm sorry.
I think we see these things in musicals.
Like, holy crap, that's really cool.
It's awesome that these projects are being made.
That's the highest level of surrealism so far.
And I think that, just to sort of get this out there, because there's a bunch of variants of this question.
A lot of people ask me that.
I kind of just wanted to say, there's another question that was kind of like, what do you think would be great for a design if you're working on this type of game and so on and whatnot?
Liam and I have discussed, actually, we're making game-type things.
Tair and Vully and I are super into game design.
We're very much into that and would like to potentially, in the future, maybe actually do things.
Yeah, totally.
So, we can't actually tell you guys what we want to do.
We're not going to give you the good ideas.
Because we want to do them.
Exactly.
You know what I mean?
Again, not that we don't super appreciate your stuff.
So, for a lot of the people that have asked questions about like, what is Ibasa game would be like?
Or like, what kind of games would you design if there was this genre or that type of character?
I tend to not answer them because we totally have ideas we want to do.
And we're not just going to spill them right here because we want to try and get them done someday.
You know, we're just waiting for the right opportunity.
Team, people, etc.
But if it happens, it happens.
If you need a little hint or a little teaser, it may or may not be played with a steel battalion controller.
Hate? I think you're giving away too much.
Wow, that's hard not to sometimes.
Hold it back.
My ultimate fantasy would be a fucking NPC and like a pillar of eternity, like Torment, like style, old ass RPG.
Hey, it's happening because Chris Avalon listens.
With shit, you know, just like a shit ton of dial.
You know, just like, oh, that'd be so good.
You know, oh, that'd be so good.
Save that shit for the nationals.
That's what I'm trying to get.
I'm not going to make that.
But if you are making a game, mail us about putting Zubas in it.
Okay, wait.
Dating game, hold on.
Let me change it.
Not a dating sim, a fucking hentai game.
Which touching?
Yeah.
Which touching?
Just like, no, like a dating sim, but at the end, you fuck us.
Oh.
Oh, I want to make us fuck each other.
And it's suit, well, okay.
Monster Monkees.
No, that's the, that's the, that's the best.
That's got to happen.
You got to use the touchscreen top and bottom, squeeze that veto.
Dude, it's called the extreme rub system.
Rub that shit.
You know, that's coming back in a second game.
Stop it.
Shut up.
Alice wants to know.
Make it happen.
Uh, Alice says, hey, best friends, I love listening to the podcast while working out
and I was wondering if you guys exercise and if you so, what exercises do you do?
My exercises are lifting the mailbag boxes up the stairs every day.
I do a lot of like lower arm exercise because my wrists are shit.
Matt, you've got a treadmill, don't you?
No, he's got a stationary bike.
I'm a complete piece of shit and currently I'm not doing anything.
You're counting calories though.
But I am counting calories and once that stops working, then I will have to actually do stuff.
Okay.
Oh, I don't want to.
I will.
Good job, Alice.
I'm going to, I'm going to, I'm going to answer a hundred questions by answering this one.
Uh-huh.
Eduardo asks.
Can you say the question okay?
Uh, Eduardo asks, um, give us your zombie apocalypse loadout.
Loadout?
Four weapons.
Four weapons?
Yes.
One each, you mean?
No, you have four item, four weapon items.
Like imagine a d-pad.
You sure they didn't mean one each?
No.
Okay.
You pick four.
Okay.
What four weapon slash items would you use in these zombie apocalypse?
Uh, screwdriver, crowbar, uh, aluminum baseball bat, and, um, hatchet.
Um, I'm going to go with, uh, sledge crowbar.
Okay.
That's a, that's a thing.
Yeah.
Um, I'm going to go with, uh, smoke grenades.
I'm going to go with.
Okay.
That seems a bit odd.
Noise and, and sure.
Sure.
I guess.
Yeah.
I'm going to go with, uh, a harpoon.
Okay.
Yeah.
And I'm going to go with, uh, a tonful blade.
Okay.
Yeah, that's good.
Harpoon.
Harpoon.
Harpoon's good.
It's like a bow, it's like a bow and arrow, except you can retract it.
And you never have to, you never have to make arrows.
When you retract it, it gets stuck on the thing.
That's what it's pointing at.
Yeah.
It's got problems.
It's not perfect.
That's why he's got the other three.
But I've got other stuff.
Yeah.
But if I need, if I need a silent kill and I don't want to waste arrows, you go with
that.
And you know what?
You couldn't kill a zombie with arrow.
You couldn't do it personally.
See that, yeah.
So let's not,
No, you wouldn't be able to do it.
That's, that's why I was really waiting for one of us to say a firearm, unlike Liam,
because I was waiting for you to say, because you and I will, Lee, don't know how to use
fire.
No, we don't.
If I, like if people want me to say a shotgun or something, I don't know how to use a shotgun.
But I can insert the harpoon into the thing and press the button.
Yeah, exactly.
You know, but unfortunately, or fortunately for Liam, Liam does know how to use fire.
I would, I would certainly take any gun available to me at all.
Yes.
Period.
Well, that would be useful.
Yeah.
Exactly.
I would not want the noise.
I would not.
Because they're, they're not for, oh, this is a zombie.
They're for, oh no, I'm in a corner.
Thank God I have this shotgun.
I did not talk about this on the podcast, but remember a while ago, we got Nerf guns
in, in Mailbag.
Yeah.
So I have a baby Nerf gun, handgun.
Oh, it's the funniest thing.
And I was talking to someone on the phone and I went to go pick up the Nerf gun and
I had forgotten that I had cocked it and in the span of picking up the Nerf gun, I shot
myself in the face, like, utterly proving without a shadow of a doubt that I am never
qualified to own a handgun or any firearm or, because I would have killed myself.
You're not here.
So good for me.
Yep.
So yeah.
And a zombie apocalypse, I would, like, if you were to hand me a gun, I would hand
it back to you.
Right.
Right.
Because I know I will shoot myself by accident.
Before you shoot anything.
Yeah.
It's like, you know.
I just, I just don't like the noise.
That's why I would want it for the desperation moment.
The situation.
Where a melee weapon isn't going to come in.
You know what?
I'd want a gun with one bullet in it.
Yeah.
But I'll say this much, now that you know, there is totally a Sledge Hammer Crow bar
single item.
Yeah.
And it's super awesome useful.
I have no ability to survive any zombie apocalypse scenario because there's a clinic,
like, a block from my house.
And I live in between two grocery stores.
So like, there, people are going to be around.
The only advantage for you is you're not in the middle of the city.
You're like-
I can actually walk across that bridge.
You're a bit out.
Yeah, exactly.
Like, you could make it.
Here's a good one from, uh, Rokin.
Well, I just placed myself really specifically.
Dude.
Yeah, you did.
Stalker Field.
Yeah, you did.
Stalker Field.
Which bridge, Pat?
There's a lot, there's a lot of high rises in that area though, so I'm not too worried
about that.
We live on an island.
Yeah.
But you revealed-
Six!
And I revealed some really specific things.
You revealed already that you didn't have blinds, so people could just look for the
naked eye.
I have blinds now.
Oh, you do now?
Well, look for the person with the blinds.
I wear clothes and light house.
Come on, Liam.
You look for the atomic-
When's the last time you came over to my house, and I had no pants on?
Look for the atomic purple house.
Uh, last night.
That's all you need to do.
Atomic purple house.
Um, Rohit says, uh, Saibatsu, I was speaking to the eight-year-old son of a co-worker at
dinner.
Awesome.
And the cool are saying that wrestling is fake.
Is it?
Oh, shit.
Of course, everyone at the table says, what?
No way.
It's super real.
Those guys are clearly assholes.
Don't be their friends.
That's awesome.
Now, this got me thinking.
My life followed a similar arc.
I knew wrestling was real, and I knew it was awesome, but then I found that it was fake,
and I lost some of its luster.
Yep.
Eventually, I came back to it when I realized I didn't care.
Eventually, it comes back.
It was still awesome.
Eventually, you became a smart mark.
And I kept watching.
Yeah.
My question is, is it possible for someone to really enjoy wrestling without ever going
through that phase where they thought it was 100% real?
You have to be that guy.
That's real.
It's still real.
Really good question.
Oh, man.
Like, because I super fell out, and I only got back into it recently.
I don't know.
Thanks to Matt.
I don't know anybody who didn't follow that path.
Hey, Matt.
I think this would be, Matt would probably have an answer for this.
Yeah, Matt.
What do you think?
Yeah, it's deep.
Yeah, it's deep.
It strikes us all.
Yeah.
That really?
I think that someone who knows it's fake from the get-go is inherently, it's possible
to still be entertained by it, but you will never have the same thing as the guy who believed
and stopped and came back.
Yeah.
I don't know anyone who always knew this thing.
The three-way turn, it's the same way people enjoy South Park now, where you're like, this
is hilarious, piss and shit jokes, and then you're like, this is stupid, and then you
grow up and you come back and you go, no, wait, this is actually really funny.
The three-way turn is the type of turn where you're like, I'm in for life.
And I think anything less than that in wrestling is just, you won't have this appreciation.
And wrestling has the five-way turn, where you come back and then you're like, oh my
god, this is terrible.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, you're right.
And then you're like, oh my god, it's so terrible.
I need to watch it.
I need to know what's happening, because fucking something makes the papers.
No, I can't think of anyone.
Yeah, it's really interesting.
I'm going to go ahead and say that, Rohit, the life you lived, the return after not
caring is the better option.
This kid's going to live that life, and it's going to be a good one.
It's like how you find out Santa's not real, and you're just like, fuck.
But then you become old, and then you become Santa.
You become Santa Claus.
That's the secret.
And then you just get drugged.
Santa's in your window like, shh, I'll come and buck, and then that's not great.
Santa Claus.
We had to tell the Purple House.
Damn it.
That's why.
That's why it happened.
That's why it happened.
Um, we got one coming in from, oh, why'd you freeze up?
Don't do that.
Oh, the laptop's freaking out.
The podcast is ruined.
Oh, hey, what are your drinks of choice, non-alcoholic, furlium?
We can make some non-alcoholic choices.
Surely temples.
Wait, drinks of...
Just all beverages.
Oh, surely temples.
I love them.
I love surely temples.
There is nothing like a good, old-fashioned glass of 2% milk.
Yeah, for sure.
Uh, I like Virgin rum and coke.
Uh, I like Jones, Green Apple.
Those are good.
Those are my favorite things in the world.
My parents lied to me.
They told me that if I drank all my milk, I would grow up big and strong.
And I drank so much goddamn milk, dude.
Well, we don't...
Like, Louis Black covered this.
Is milk good for you?
I'm so sure.
I'm so sure it's bullshit.
We've seen super science on both directions saying...
Yeah.
No, it's not...
It's not milk.
That's not the question.
Are eggs good for you?
Eggs, calcium.
They're not great.
They're not great.
Everyone listen to this.
Think about it.
Is egg...
Are eggs good for you?
Yeah.
It's...
I don't know.
They're a healthy man.
Are they?
Yeah.
They have certain healthy things in them, but you can't...
Like, don't they advise that you don't eat more than three a week?
I don't know.
The answer is yes to everything.
Yeah.
The answer is yes.
Because the egg whites are good.
The egg itself is good.
The yolk is good.
That's the good part.
That's where they get you.
Tony wants to yell a pat about Dark Souls 2.
Can you please tell Pat to play through Dark Souls 2 on New Game Plus?
Because saying that it's the easiest sold game is stupid.
Because on your first playthrough, yes it is.
But on New Game Plus, that completely changes.
I am super aware that New Game Plus on Dark Souls 2 is super fucked compared to the other two.
But I beat...
I had the hunger.
I needed to play that game when it came out.
And I beat it.
And now I'm waiting for the PC version.
And when the PC version comes out, I'll play with the Covenant of Champions that makes the new game harder.
And then I'll go to New Game Plus for sure.
Okay.
There you go.
And he's totally right.
He's totally right.
That being said, the original path is totally the easiest.
Yeah.
I will say in that sense, in a game like this, your first run is really indicative of its difficulty overall.
Yeah, totally.
And anything else is secondary.
Yeah.
I went through Demon's Souls the second time.
I was like, oh, fucking clear through that shit.
But the first time, I was like, fuck.
Exactly.
So I get you, but it is the easiest one.
No.
You know what?
That's a pretty good point.
Your virgin run is how you evaluate that.
Because that's the point.
Because that's your chance.
And then you come through and you already know the layout or what happens.
And the reason why New Game Plus and Dark Souls 2 is harder is because it's a different virgin run.
That's super fucked.
So you still have the advantage of knowing the environments already.
Right.
Yeah.
And tools and whatever.
You see Hyde's Tower of Flame?
It's got like 10 red phantoms.
I believe that.
It's fucked.
It's super fucked.
It's super fucked.
Just the lost sinner sounds like a complete bitch.
Don't get done, done details, done details, PC people.
He said nothing, man.
Yeah, okay.
You're right.
He said the names.
The names.
Exactly.
And we're going to take one more from Josh.
Hey, Josh.
Joshua.
Which Josh?
Is this your friend, Josh?
No, this is Joshua.
Okay.
Joshua says, hey best friends, not sure how many of your fans know about finance and economics.
So now's my time to shine.
Go.
Shine button.
The easiest single number to use when you're trying to compare publicly traded companies
is the market cap.
Yeah.
Because we were discussing.
Which is bigger, Google or Amazon?
Google or Amazon, right?
This is big.
So the market cap.
The market cap is what you want to go with.
I guess that's a total assets and everything.
Something.
You can find the numbers on any financial service site, including Yahoo.
Which surprise motherfuckers actually exist.
Yeah.
Amazon's market cap at the time of writing this is about $150 billion.
Google's is 372 billion.
Okay.
So Google is two and a half times the size of Amazon, which is bigger, but not by enough
that they could casually buy Amazon.
Yeah.
That's the important.
Yeah.
There's way more to that, but you don't want to read into the pages of nerd shit that
I'd end up typing about it.
Okay.
Totally right, Josh.
Also, Pat, you're full of shit.
Amazon's stock price has been marching steadily towards the crapper for months.
Oh, really?
Finally.
But my information was super old.
So you should immediately assume I was wrong.
No, you're wrong.
Finally, thanks for the hours of entertainment.
That's a pop out.
You're right.
I was wrong.
Listening to your, you fuckers and your fuckery kept me sangering the long hours of data entry
and launching all day.
The entry is considered this an application and volunteered to be the unofficial guys
who know money things at the super best friends or not, whatever attached, you'll find an
invoice and my consulting fee.
Yeah.
Liam, would you like to describe his consulting fee as given by this bill here?
It's a lot more than I think we can afford.
Look at this number.
Oh, I don't know if I can handle that.
Yep.
So the Hills and Sons Financial Consultants invoice is one dick butt.
One dick butt.
One picture and dick butt.
Um, way too much, way too rich for our blood.
Okay, thank you though.
That's super interesting.
Here's the system we're going to go on, Josh.
Whenever we say dumb financial shit, it's totally dumb and wrong.
Right in and tell us.
Exactly.
Josh, we have accepted your application.
I'm going to put a filter on your email so that whenever you're right in, it's going
to pop up right away.
I don't have to fact check the podcast.
Now we can just tell, I admit that we were wrong the next week.
There you go.
Josh, you are officially guys who knows money things about numbers.
Yeah.
Unless he's totally full of shit and he's trolling us.
In which case, someone else, please.
Who knows better and it doesn't matter.
No, but that's interesting.
I didn't know about that.
Like, it makes sense, but I just didn't know about it.
We need number guy because we don't fucking know what the fuck we're talking about.
We also need developer guy.
Yeah, we do.
We do.
But you know what?
We fucking went like, hey, what's bigger, Google or Amazon?
I jumped on Google and I went and I looked at the Dow Jones and I saw the numbers and
I went, well, this many shares.
This number's bigger than this number.
Then I said, no, we have to go on the total asset value or whatever.
That was something like two, but clearly that was off a bit as well.
We're not accountants.
Thanks, Josh.
We're not anything.
No, thank you.
That's super interesting.
That's totally what we're going to be doing.
Money on a macro level is something we don't know.
From here on out.
I flunked the fuck out of macro, I cannot.
I'm sure.
Yeah, I totally did.
That's why I hear a psychiatrist.
Oh, I'm not a psychiatrist.
Tell me how that makes you feel.
Liam, a psychiatrist, Liam.
A psychiatrist is a psychologist that has the medical training to prescribe drugs.
Oh, fuck you, people.
Just let it sizzle.
Fuck you, shit.
Let it burn.
Let it burn.
Fuck you, asshole.
Oh, we will see you guys next week.
Wait, what's coming up on the channel?
Oh, we've got some stuff coming in.
You stupid, stupid idiot.
No, we've got some stuff coming in.
Matt's having trouble talking today.
You just, do you have sideswip?
We've got more Friday night fisticuffs.
Yes, like, will that be?
On Friday.
Hopefully on Saturday.
No, Friday.
Right?
We've got, uh, Yakuza's done.
Yes.
And it will be.
What?
Yeah, it will be.
What about plans for future, let's play soon?
Well, there's a vote coming up.
There was going to be a vote.
Matt and I are going to put up a vote on the Facebook page.
Straight up.
She's like, here's five, whatever.
Didn't know that you were ready to say that.
But you heard it here first.
And, uh, last time there was a fuck up where there was an open ballot and you could write
whatever you wanted.
Well, Facebook doesn't even let you do votes anymore.
Yeah.
You've got to go to some fucking external websites.
Yeah.
Yeah, so just Survey Monkey.
Uh, there's more Nuzlocke.
Is there?
There's going to be more Nuzlocke coming.
Is there?
We're going to do a thing.
We're going to do a thing.
We're going to do a thing.
There's still the finish.
Yeah.
We still need to finish off Wolf Among Us.
And Matt and I have some other stuff coming up as well.
Yup.
It's going to be a good week.
It's stacked.
It's a week.
And then next week, go to this podcast again.
Oh, no.
And Matt will hopefully be able to talk a little bit better.
Yeah.
He's under the weather a little bit.
It's not great being under the weather, Matt.
I know.
Under the weather, Matt.
Under the weather, Matt.
Weather, Matt.
This podcast is terrible.
I know.
We're falling apart.
This is not a good podcast.
We should start over.
Let's do the whole podcast over.
I should probably, you know what, and I was going to say at the beginning, but I forgot.
So I'll say that the sound of rain that you've been hearing in the background, if you've been hearing it,
is because it's raining outside.
It's quite nice.
Yeah.
And when I open the windows, it's fucking hot in here.
So we're just having a nice little relax.
Wait, what?
You know?
I don't know.
I feel, I think that probably sound really soothing.
Yeah.
It's like a little trailer with the people.
And for those who've been wanting to know, yes, I've been having fun with the outros.
I've been picking some random cool songs because fuck it.
Let's have some fun with it.
Every single fucking week, I go to that goddamn subreddit and there's always a fucking, like,
what the fuck song is that?
What is that?
Totally.
I heard you guys and I will be sourcing the music.
After I use it.
Yeah.
I'll tell you next week what I used last week.
Fantastic.
Last week was Snow Castle from Tekken 5 Dark Resurrection.
Which was correctly identified.
Yeah.
And we'll see.
You still gotta have the mystery of people, like, trying to, like, figure it out.
Oh, totally.
That's the whole whole thing.
So we'll see if you guys know what I'm gonna use this week.
Who knows?
Who knows?
Who knows?
See you next week, everybody.
Bye.
See you next week.
Bye.
Bye.
Bye.
Bye.