Castle Super Beast - SBFC 040: The Good Stuff comes from the 3rd Ass-chamber
Episode Date: May 13, 2014The great outdoors! Nature! Bugs and creepy squirrels chewing on plastic surround us as we try to talk about games this week, brutally reminding us that we no longer own this city. We promptly back do...wn.
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You guys hear that?
Hear what?
You hear that bird?
That sound?
Yeah, it's bullshit.
That sounds the sound of nature, my friends.
That's the sound of empty playgrounds because all the kids are playing shitty games on their
tablets.
And where do we find ourselves today?
We find ourselves outside.
Episode 40 of The Best Friendcast is being recorded in my front lawn.
This is not your lawn, basically.
This is not your lawn.
It's very close.
This is actually our property.
This is very clearly not your lawn.
It's not across the street.
This is a local hospital's lawn.
It's not a hospital.
It's a hospital.
No, it's not, actually.
It's something.
If anyone remembers the ending of the dive kick episode of Scrub Lords, we're just across
the street from where the shame car was parked.
So if you're trying to find us, you know exactly where to look.
Exactly.
So if you're listening live.
Yeah, come find us.
Either way, we are, you know, sitting on a bench.
We're surrounded by grass and trees and ants and squirrels and shit.
Yeah, Pat's complaining about ants a bunch, but it's fine.
And the sun.
Yeah, the sun's gonna put a fucker.
You put a jacket on.
Yes, I put a jacket on.
It's beautiful.
I'm going to burst into flames, you motherfucker.
As usual.
You're gonna see me tomorrow and I'm gonna be beat red and in horrible pain.
I told you, this is what happens with day walkers.
Oh, guys.
Yeah.
Guys, how was your weeks, guys?
My week was fabulous.
Yeah, Liam, what are you doing?
This week was the first, like, nice week of, like, warmth in Montreal.
It really is.
So, like, I had a nice afternoon on the balcony, just sipping iced tea.
Yeah, I was looking at you.
I was really nice.
I was looking at you through a telescope.
I saw everything.
Matt saw it.
So that was really great.
Iced tea.
I read a book that was really fun.
Were you reading?
All you need is kill.
Yes.
Which I read all the way through and boy, that was a really fun book and boy, they're
gonna butcher the movie.
I don't feel like it ends in a very American way.
All you need is kill is a good way to make everyone not see your movie in America, though.
Yeah, I know.
Do you mean, like, an audience-pleasing way?
Oh, yeah.
Is that the type of thing?
Okay.
They're gonna butcher it.
Well, you and I saw the trailer.
Sorry, Liam.
We saw the trailer.
They glorified the woman soldier character, which is awesome.
That was cool.
Yeah.
Like, it might feel like Starcraft or something.
But the way she's represented in the movie is super accurate, and that's actually great.
But one of the key character-building moments is around an eating contest involving Umeboshi.
So now it's gonna be hamburgers.
Eat your hamburgers for the next week.
And they did that thing where they turned the mech suits into exoskeleton so you can
see the actor's face.
Yes.
And it's like, ah, fuck that shit.
No, I don't care about the actor.
The book was really good.
I wanna see the robot, but the actor cares about their face.
That's amazing because you can either read the manga or watch the movie.
It's a book.
It's a book.
The Manga adaptation maybe, but I read the novel.
You know what there might be?
The one we got was the novel.
Yeah.
In the middle there.
There you go.
We got one in the mail.
I bought it.
Damn it.
Oh, yeah, we did.
We did, yeah.
No one has the balls that the fucking dread did to just be like, I don't care about my
face.
Yeah, cover that face.
It depends on the actor as well.
Like Tom Cruise?
Never.
Yeah.
But that's what's selling the movie.
The fucking Carl Urban?
Who's Carl?
Who's Carl?
He's the guy who was McCoy in the Star Trek.
Yeah, exactly.
And you know what?
And being that guy that's like, who cares about my face?
And landed him a role in the next Star Wars movie.
Yeah.
So how about that?
That's true.
That's true.
That's what you get for being humble.
Exactly.
I started playing a really special game that I don't know where it's been all my life.
Oh, yes.
I don't know where this game's been all my life.
How about that intro music, huh?
The music is fabulous throughout.
Fucking Moonlight Sonata, man.
Yeah.
Tell me exactly what you said to me where you were playing it.
You're like, okay, this is the game, but...
I was playing Phantom Dust and I was really, really enjoying it.
It was super fun.
And then about an hour and a half in, it kind of flips over a little bit and becomes a card
game.
And I was like, oh, this gets better.
Oh, oh.
And then I had to change my pants.
Oh, face.
When the card game comes out.
And then the dance game gets into that.
And then it leads into a full dancing game.
No.
But it's like an arena-based card battler in a sense.
And by card battle, I don't mean traditional playing cards, but you build a deck and you
draw them out and you play them as attacks more or less.
It's very fun.
It's very much a vision of one man that was realized and not designed by a committee.
Right.
And the visuals and the music, everything meshes so perfectly and is so niche and fits
that cyberpunk vision of wires everywhere and grunge.
And there was no way this was designed by a committee.
And it's nice.
James Small is smiling right now.
Oh, I know.
But I'm really enjoying it.
I played Venom Dust for an hour because that weird couple in my previous apartment left
me a bunch of weird burn games.
And I was like, what the fuck is this?
Venom Dust?
I've heard of this.
And I put it in.
I didn't even get to the card battling thing because it was so weird up until that point.
Oh, this is okay, I guess.
But yeah.
It's great.
I'm really in love with it.
And yeah, the music is great.
The visuals are great.
Everything's awesome.
Yeah.
No, I'm pretty sure when we were doing like QA and we had to test like music and play
your own custom soundtracks, that Moonlight Sonata was used regularly for the test.
Oh, I believe it.
Because it's a killer that soundtrack.
Just listen to it all day.
It's awesome.
And like Futatsuki is always a stickler for his soundtrack and even in Crimson Dragon,
the music's great.
Like, here's hoping that Venom Dust 2 rumors true.
And he's telling me about how like every like Microsoft big wigs are like...
Those sponsors like we've talked about it and Futatsuki's like, yeah, I want to do it.
So...
Like that's such a obscure poll.
Yeah, that'll save the extra price.
How many years to save?
It doesn't even feel good to say that.
It doesn't even feel good.
Yeah.
But in that case, it's like Mario Kart could save something, but Fan does not save nothing,
man.
Like it's such an obscure game.
Granted, that's what people want now.
People want those Japanese games.
There's a saturation.
I want this weird bullshit.
Weird bullshit.
And I'm going to segue right into Pat, because Pat and I both got a Vita 2000.
We both got Vita 2000s.
And I got to say it's fucking stop giving me that look.
I'm not even looking at you.
I'm not even looking at you.
I'm not even looking at you.
I'm looking at the fucking monitor.
When I was sitting next to Liam and I picked up his Vita 2000, I said, I'm going to buy this.
Well, he freaked his fucking shit over how nuts I am.
Because it's your third Vita, right?
Yeah.
Well, now I'm down to two Vita.
I'm going to give the white one to the misses.
Okay.
But it's great.
And all the statements about the screen being shit are far overstated.
And Pat, that was one of the guys who ardently filtered through the screen.
We need to describe that slightly more, because it's so confusing.
Take the floor.
Vita 2000, it's thinner.
It's nicer.
The screen is more color accurate, but it is also considerably dimmer.
And the colors are not nearly as saturated.
When you look at them side to side, in person, it's basically like you turn the color saturation
up on your television for the 1000.
Why don't you pull them up now and see how they look outside?
Oh, they look like dogs.
You can't see the hills outside.
They're worthless outside.
But I remember, basically, people were taking a lot of screenshots of these two screens on
their phones.
All the results came out super jacked.
The 2000 always looked like complete garbage.
Or the 1000 looked like oversaturated all hell.
And it turns out there's some RGB value fucking thing when you're taking cell phone pictures.
The only way that it actually matters if you see them next to each other, the screen's not
quite as good, but it's completely fine.
It's such a negligible difference.
Like a 5% loss in quality.
And I like the system a lot better.
The trade-off for the screen also is it's way sharper.
Like older games, or not older, but like games that don't run at native res don't look nearly
as blurry.
They just look like they're jaggier, but not blurry.
And games that native res look even better.
They look much, much better.
So yeah, I really like it.
Remember, like, was it two weeks ago when I was like, oh, that's Sheninbio.
I should watch that, even though I hate it.
Yeah, I didn't do that.
I'm not going to do that.
Yeah, and everyone noticed.
I'm glad he didn't watch that shit that I loved.
Like, maybe 10 minutes after the podcast, I think Liam, you asked me.
He's like, you want to know?
I was like, no.
I changed my mind already.
No, no.
So you watched Ori Emo instead, then?
No, what I actually did is at the Mrs. Suggestion, the last time she suggested a movie was Totoro,
and I really liked that.
And this one, I feel really, like, stupid for not having seen it this far as I finally saw
Princess Mononoke.
Oh, sure.
Awesome.
And what did you think of it?
Yeah, that's great.
It is great, yeah.
It was great when we told you it was great years ago, and you said, fuck you.
I didn't even know you when that movie came out.
No, but like, years ago is in, like, two years ago.
I was always like, oh, dumb wolf thing.
I don't care.
Yeah, wolves are stupid.
Like, what?
Young Matt was like, man, Pat should see this movie.
Who's Pat?
Yeah.
It's so just nice.
Well, I saw it.
The only ones I'd seen is Totoro and House Woman Castle.
And Fireflies, Miyazaki also, right?
However, the Fireflies is not Miyazaki.
Really?
It's not.
He had a part in it, but he wasn't the director or anything.
So I have this feeling of just like, well, it's all about lighthearted, like, goofy shenanigans
where nothing really happens.
There's actually two types of movies.
So when I went into this, I was really, really surprised.
It's like, shit's happening all the time.
It's fucking...
It's a bad edge.
Like, within 10 minutes, I want to say within 20 minutes, like, a dude gets full on arm and
head blown off by an arrow.
Yeah, no.
Plus when...
What's his name?
Prince Yutaka, Taka, whatever.
The main guy.
Akashi or whatever.
Anyway, he gets his arm all powered up by, like, the evil, like, corruption.
Yeah.
When he throws an arrow, it makes a guy's head just like, who's arrow?
The very first one is he hits a dude in the wrist.
And it blows his arms off and sticks him to a tree.
It was like, what?
I will never forget just that feeling of, like, when you first see the stag stepping.
Yeah.
And then all the flowers from the tree.
And then die.
Imagine if the forest spirit was behind us right now.
Right?
It could be.
You see that scene and you're like, this is fucking art happening in front of me.
I don't even know.
Too bad that the forest spirit's face is so fucking ghoulish that you get out of my face.
It's supposed to be like that.
It's terrible.
The only thing that took me out of the movie, and I guess it's kind of the point of the
movie, is like, this overwhelming feeling of, like, man, everyone in this story is fucking
retarded.
Yeah.
Everyone is a stupid moron.
Even Mononoke is a big stupid idiot.
Just stop for, like, ten minutes.
Just shut up.
Just shut up.
Just chill.
Just chill the fuck out for, like, ten minutes.
Iron town, you need to fucking chill.
Forest gods, you need to fucking chill.
Take a break.
We're little pseudo-Cocoro things with the faces.
You guys need to chill the fucking...
Wait, you're already chilled out.
Stop looking at me.
The crux of, like, the two giant moronic hubrises is, like, we're gonna go kill the god of life
and death, and, like, no one knows what would happen.
But we're gonna do that.
Like, what if you shot that and, like, everyone, everywhere just died?
Yeah.
Like, nobody knows what's gonna happen.
Or every dead person ever came back to life.
Right.
I assume you watched it subbed, right?
I watched it dubbed, actually.
Oh, which dub?
Uh...
Because there's two dubs.
I'm not sure.
It had Jillian Anderson as the character.
That's the original, but it was also...
Yeah, it was also Keith David as the big, as the big old bore.
As that stupid, stupid idiot bore.
And that's the other person.
It's like, no, you stupid, stupid idiot.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Like, just...
You...
Yeah, no.
And I guess that feeling of, like, no, morons is kind of the point.
But, yeah, I really, really liked it.
Because it has a really good movie.
I want to say that, like, things like Okami coming afterwards were definitely...
Oh, yeah.
Yeah, really.
All the way up to fucking Pokemon X, right?
Yeah, no, that was probably the most surreal moment of the whole thing.
It's like, why is Cerny-S just walking through this movie?
It looks exactly...
Everything is, like, influenced from this, man.
You never put this connection together, but the guy that plays the prince is also the guy that plays Dr. Manhattan.
Whoa, really?
It's such a weird, random...
Yeah, okay.
Like, Dr. Manhattan was in a Mononoke movie.
Like, in House Moving Castle.
Christian Vale was...
Exactly.
You totally got weird pulls there, too.
Yeah, you know, Disney, they do a shit job advertising these movies when they localize them.
But when they do cast the voices, they get good people.
So, yeah.
So, that's, I mean, that's pretty much my week that I want to talk about on the podcast.
I'm going to hijack this section, because I forgot an extremely channeled crucial piece of information.
Oh, yeah?
This week, I watched Face Off for the first time.
You did!
You did!
I called Liam to ask him something, and he goes, hey, before you continue, they're about to take John Travolta's face off,
and this is the stupidest shit I've ever seen.
And I said, no, no, you got to give it a bit more time.
That part's stupid, but yeah.
And it starts off incredibly dumb, but it turned, like, incredibly somehow entertaining,
but managed to be incredibly dumb throughout the whole thing.
Now, there's a lot of memorable moments, but I find the secondary parts are the ones I love the most.
Are the ones I love more.
Like, there's everyone at, like, this, the shitty Face Off gesture.
Oh, no.
That's all.
But I love more, like, the shit where, like, oh, they burned the rest of the people that knew about the project.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And they're all tied together, like, oh, no, don't sprinkle gas on us!
And when making the situation as overly dramatic as possible in the best way,
and I told them, like, how did they document that?
And when Nicholas Cage tells John Travolta I burned everyone that knows about the plan,
and John Travolta gets flashes in his head of them with all the gas laying on the ground.
Yeah!
That's great.
Fucking face off!
Yeah.
That was a good movie.
Definitely worth watching, for sure.
At least once, maybe only once.
We have, like, 17,000 copies now, so there's no excuses.
I know.
I don't break them all in.
I remember I came over to your place one time, and then we were playing a PS3 game,
and I ejected the disc, and it was Face Off.
Yeah, yeah, you remember that?
Yeah, no, we're playing now.
This happens regularly.
Like, you were trying to do the prank, as usual.
No, no, I was putting on a camera.
But I'm imagining you were, and then you see Face Off instead of Max, like, yeah.
Got you.
Pre-emptively.
Did you ever find this or is it Wrath?
Because it's in your apartment.
No, I'm glad.
I'm glad I can't find it.
You guys are idiots.
You're gonna get to eventually.
It's like, in between the dryer and washer or something.
I don't know, you know.
I showed you, but I guess it's Wrath.
In my toilet tank.
Like, you're moving out into a different apartment and you move in the wash,
and it's like, oh, god.
Well, I told you, I found that fucking biker-mice sticker.
I finally found it.
We got a biker-mice sticker at some point.
It was on your butt.
It was on the underside of my green table.
Oh, wow.
How'd you find that?
I was cleaning up and I fucking was like, oh, god damn it.
Oh, that fucker.
And I leaned my head back and hit it on the floor.
You're like, no wonder this table's been acting really shitty lately.
It's kind of garbage table.
What did you do?
You threw the table out.
Yeah, man.
What's your weekend?
My week was interesting.
I got together with a group of friends.
Liam, you know the guys.
We occasionally go out for food around town to try out different restaurants.
I think I know the ones.
Oh, I absolutely know the ones.
Exactly.
Yeah, the girl wore the dumb hats.
And then you go, you put your tankies up.
We don't do the hats.
We dropped the hats after that one thing at Three Amigos.
But either way, this week we went to a place called La Luiz Yen, which is, you know, a
southern sauce.
Of course.
Sounds like us.
Had some gumbo.
Had some jambalaya.
Good shit.
Jambalaya.
Good shit.
I like my spicy food.
They delivered.
It's good.
And, you know, while we were there, did you like spicy food to the point of self-damage?
Oh, yeah.
Like, just like, like, the pain is bad.
The pain is bad.
Yeah.
You're taking damage as you eat.
No, I learned, like, you go to the Indian restaurants and then when you ask for, like,
a tikka masala or something like that, and then they go bring you, like, the North American
version, you're like, no, no, no, no, no, no.
Make it like you make it for yourself and your family.
That's what I want.
Are you sure?
Are you being racist?
Yes.
Will you sign this waiver?
I will sign this waiver.
This death waiver.
Bring me it.
Not my problem now.
People in insanity peppers brewed in the jungle primeval by people in an insane asylum.
And you're like, yeah, no, spoon it up, spoon it up, come on.
Let's go, let's go, serve that shit.
Hurry up, hurry up.
I'm not paying you to Goldbrick.
And, you know, while we were talking about that and enjoying it, which was delicious.
I'm sure.
I also learned about a show called Dutch Cooking Show.
Dutch.
I know this one.
Yeah.
I totally know this one.
And I'm late to the party because this is like, it's not around anymore, apparently.
Yeah.
But this was a Japanese show called Dutch Cooking Show.
Dutch isn't for douchy, like which one?
Yeah.
Really?
So this is a cooking show that you basically have a group of people, usually celebrity guests
come out, including Bob Sapp, for example.
Of course.
And they all pick a side between two dishes.
So in this case, I saw an episode.
It was like roast beef or roast chicken.
Right.
For Christmas.
So you all stand on one side or the other, and then they spend 20 minutes just fucking
food-pornin' you.
Just showing you the most tender slices.
The juiciest cuts.
And then they go and they show you, okay, the special ingredients.
There's just nothing like good ol' blank porn.
Oh my God.
Yeah.
Just straight up explanations.
Okay, food porn, knife porn.
So this is the car porn, salt porn.
Yeah, gun porn.
And they fucking track it down to the one guy, the one old guy left in the mountains.
They show the history of it.
And he's making it the hard old-school way.
Right.
And they fucking show you everything.
Then they bring it and go, this is the most expensive, amazing salt.
He has to kill the bear and then serve the bear meat.
And you can just taste it in your mouth.
And then they sample, and then the hosts sample just a little bit of the salt and the beef,
or a little bit of the chicken.
Yeah.
And then they spend it, again, they show you the food porn of it.
They fucking choose it up.
They're bunch of nerds.
And then you have a chance to choose again, which one do you want to eat?
Which one's the winner, yeah.
Right?
The episode or whatever.
You pick your final side, and whichever side has the most obviously gets to eat their
meal.
And whoever's on the opposite side, you get nothing and no one eats that meal.
And you get beaten up by Bob Savage.
I was waiting for the part of this dynamic where some of the food, of this perfect food
gets wasted.
Just straight in the garbage.
Like after the good meal gets eaten and everyone tastes it, then the cook is the only one allowed
to taste his own other meal.
And since they're eating a bite and goes, yeah, it's pretty good, you guys.
And then they trash it.
Complete space.
Just put it into like a room where it has the walls that squeeze.
Yeah.
You must watch your meal die.
Yeah, it's a super worthwhile shot.
Happy you saw that.
Is that roasted pheasant?
Does your mouth is watering?
And it's just like in the garbage.
Hey, yo, it's Billy.
Yo, it's actually Billy just walking through the park.
Later, man.
Just straight up.
Anyway.
Yeah, no.
So I'm right now currently all about the Dutch cooking show.
Yeah.
Cool.
I'm glad.
I've only watched like two episodes, but I'm glad.
Yeah, it's fun.
It's fun stuff.
And, you know, for those of you, a couple of people were asking like, hey, Willie, why
did you stop with the JoJo updates and where you got?
Oh, I forgot.
I wanted to talk about that.
There's a JoJo update we need to talk about this week.
Okay, it's vital.
Okay.
Did you guys see the new fucking episode?
Yes, I did.
No.
Okay.
They have taken it way too far.
They're doing it.
No, no.
This is negative.
This is bad.
Ah.
Where they fucking censor out with the lamest black spot ever.
JoJo lighting a cigarette.
Oh, yeah.
It is, it is, it is comical.
Like the prior episodes were like comical where half the screen is being blacked off
in that there's gore, but at least you can kind of see it in framing.
This is the guy standing in the broad daylight in the middle of a boat.
And there's just this nebulous shit, like fucking shadow as you can still see him light
a cigarette.
It is the stupidest fucking joke.
So I didn't see the episode, but I saw a GIF and it reminds me of, remember early on
at Cramartie High when everyone, everyone's smoking.
There's always like this thing of like green goo at the end and I never understood what
it was.
I thought that's what that was.
You know what it is, but do you know what the deal is, is that they're high schoolers.
JoJo is a high school student.
And he shouldn't be smoking.
JoJo looks like he's 35.
Exactly.
But you can show adult smoking as much as you want in anime, anywhere, whatever.
But to show high school students doing it is...
I think you're overthinking it.
It's by the Blu-ray.
No, I don't think so.
Because I remember watching shows again like Hikaru no Go, for example, where the adults
would be blowing smoke in the kids' faces practically.
I can't wait until Jotaro punches Dio in the face and he goes, ow, you beat me and it just
rolls to credits.
No, the by the Blu-ray is for stuff that's borderline porn, but even then they do have
to censor that for TV.
And then, like...
For the smoking, it's just you can't...
You can't show that on TV.
You shouldn't show that on TV.
It depends on who's doing it.
Yeah, exactly.
If it's a supposed kid.
And I hate it.
I wish they could just air...
So why didn't they just not have JoJo's smoke?
Yeah, censored versions of that.
It'd be better if you didn't smoke rather than you did.
It's part of the plot.
Is it?
What?
Yeah, yeah.
Him smoking a cigarette is part of them beating the villain.
You guys know what it is.
Because the villain had to show up, yeah.
I'm not like...
The fact that it's censored is outrageous.
But more outrageous is how poorly it is censored.
They show him...
They just literally remove the color in the lines, but you can still see he's lighting
a cigarette, and then he's holding a cigarette.
And just not...
It's ridiculous.
It's so stupid.
I don't know.
It's so stupid.
It didn't pull me out of it, but I just kind of went like, oh, okay.
Well, I roll.
Yeah, exactly.
And I assume anything similar to that, that's going to involve drinking.
They might have a similar thing for, but that'll probably be it.
So like when he's arguing with Darby and he's got the margarita in his hand, it's just going
to be like a popsicle?
No, it's a virgin margarita.
Fuck you.
Oh my god, that's so awful.
No, I'm catching up on JoJo updates.
But yeah, why did we stop on the JoJo updates?
Well, I was going to say that I stopped off in the middle of Steel Ball Run because I honestly
got a bit depressed.
Does the Steel Ball run like insanely long?
I'm not sure the length of it, but like I got a bit depressed.
How long it is?
Parts 1 to 6 because like, it just, there's depressing things that happen.
Really?
No.
Without spoiling, you kind of just feel a bit bad.
Is it because the universe shifts?
Yeah.
Okay.
Yeah.
That sounds like a spoiler.
And you feel a bit bad about that.
And you're like, oh man, damn.
Those characters are just gone now.
I wish they weren't, but they are, you know.
But I'm going to continue with that.
Well, maybe they're still there.
Maybe.
You're not just reading the manga that has them in it.
Yeah.
You're not seeing that story.
No.
I'm still just catching up on the anime because for whatever reason I chose not to watch it
while it was airing.
But the other thing about this week's episode is you see the trailer for the next one.
They're going for it.
Motherfucking Wutang forever.
Oh yeah.
Is that the dude's name?
Boat Monkey.
Yeah.
Motherfuckers.
He's coming.
Okay.
Because I saw Santana was censored in the, in the subtitles.
Where he was changed to...
Sanseviento.
Sanseviento.
ACDC was proper though.
Well, they don't have ACDC.
They don't write ACDC.
No, but it's A-S-I-D-I-C-I.
It's ACDC.
As opposed to the band with the letters.
Yeah, with the slash.
Exactly.
But it still says ACDC.
Sure.
And cars is K with a K and stuff.
With a K, exactly.
Yeah, but then it's WAMU.
Yeah, I was going to say, is WAMU an original thing?
No.
Because I don't know if that comes from music.
There's another band called WAM.
Oh, really?
Yeah, WAM.
WAM is WAM.
WAM, WAM.
Well, yeah, I mean...
We're too young.
Well, yeah, we're too young for a WAM.
Those, like, spellings of the actual words.
Yeah, they're not super accurate.
But that's what's been canon for a while.
Hey, man, at least, at least in part three, we got Polnareff and still Jean-Pierre Eiffel.
Yeah.
God.
Oh, Christ.
Yeah.
And then a couple other, a couple other changes with, like, using the song instead of, like,
the actual name of the person or whatever.
Yeah.
But anyway.
Cool.
Oh, shit.
Fuck you.
Healthy Accent.
A reasonable price.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It was too slow.
That's the funniest thing.
I love that one.
This week.
In gaming news.
Wait, didn't that?
Did you do your week?
No, I didn't.
I'm sorry.
Isn't this, like, the third week in a row this has happened?
Yeah.
I'm the one that always gets left behind.
Yeah, sometimes.
He's it.
Not too long ago.
It's fine.
Tap sorry.
Go ahead, man.
I had just been in my apartment shaking for the last couple of days.
That's true.
He's coming out soon.
And you can feel it.
You just have glasses of water all over your apartment for the ripples.
Yeah, no, just so they can shake just so I know.
What if it's not amazing?
Reviews say it's pretty amazing.
Dudes coming out of theaters are like, oh, this is awesome.
Exactly.
But I've been really busy.
It's going to be terrible.
I've been really busy making, like, you know, the first one went up yesterday, technically.
Yeah, Monday.
So the Godzilla week has started and today is going to be a video game themed episode.
So I've been, like, working really hard on that because it's, like, seven separate videos,
like, for all week.
So other than that, me and Liam played a light gun game.
I believe that's up now and that was Ghost Squad.
Yeah, totally up.
And I got really, really into it because I've never played anything with the Wii Zapper
and I don't know what it is, but I was like, this feels really good for some reason.
Even though there's no technical difference at all.
Do you mean just the plastic shells?
Yeah.
It feels great.
It's super dynamic.
Because when, like, House of the Dead or whatever came out on the Wii, I had, like, a bad third-party
pistol shell and Nintendo fucking knew that if you put just the Wiimote in a pistol shell,
the thing is so top-heavy that your arm hurts.
Yeah, of course.
But this just works so much better, distributes the weight well.
I'll lend you crossbow training and you'll be like, holy shit, they got it.
Because crossbow training's great.
But then, fuck you, Liam.
If you didn't play Skyward Sword with the plastic sword and shield attachment, you didn't play Skyward Sword.
But also-
I can't roll my eyes harder at you.
But also, fuck, Liam.
Because my eyes are rolling.
It got me into it so hard, I then bought a PS Move and I just bought online, like, the Sony gun shell.
Yeah.
The Sharp Shooter.
The Sharp Shooter.
Which is apparently also really good.
Which I looked at many reviews and they're like, this thing also kicks ass.
It's like, I'm doing better in Killzone than I did with the fucking control.
I'm like, shut the fuck up.
Whatever.
I bought House of the Dead 3, House of the Dead 4, Dead Space Extraction HD.
You're insane.
House of the Dead, extended edition.
Both Resident Evil Chronicles.
So you just fucking went on a bender.
I just went on a bender.
After one experience.
After one experience.
Because I'm like, I have the PS3 now so I might as well pick up some stuff I kind of want.
And other than that, some people saw me write it on Twitter.
But I saw-
Stop looking at Matt's tweets.
It's embarrassing.
I watched Hobbit Desolation of Smog.
And did any of you guys see it?
We all went to go see the first one.
Anyway, we all like that Love Movies and Lord of the Rings.
We went to go see it and we all kind of-
That was pretty cute.
Well, what's the deal?
Reception was lucrative.
Oh wait, sorry.
The Misses need to tell you to do it.
Anyway, we all saw it and we all thought like, it's pretty good.
I watched this and I fucking hated it.
Wow, did you watch it in 49?
No, no, we watched it on Xbox Video.
You watched it on Xbox Video.
So I watched it and it's like the worst pacing I've ever seen.
I don't remember a single thing Bilbo ever said.
Like, he was not the main character in this movie.
It was the elves.
And like fucking Orlando Bloom, sorry, you're old now.
You can't do it.
It doesn't make any sense that you look old because this is a prequel.
Get the fuck out.
Recast them.
It's so weird that like they made a trilogy out of this.
And it's not supposed to be.
Yeah, I was talking to that and I said like two books?
Like, sure, okay.
Are two movies?
Sure, okay.
Okay.
One movie may be a bit tight, but like three, that's really like pulling it.
Because it's so weird.
And the homage, what, 160 pages?
It's the shortest book.
I love how you make fun of me for not seeing it.
Only to go on and describe all the reasons why I didn't see it.
I don't blame you.
Well, the first one's really good.
Sorry to interrupt.
Sorry to interrupt.
That motherfucking chipmunk.
That.
It's a squirrel, dude.
That squirrel is bad.
It grabbed the paper and it came closer.
Well, see, that's what Matt gets for not actually throwing it in the trash.
You're just throwing it farther down the street.
There's a squirrel near by.
That's chewing on a piece of paper and it was making noise so Matt got rid of it.
But like I said, you know that the first one was like, everyone's like, where's the dragon
at?
Where's the dragon?
How come there's no dragon?
But man, where's the dragon?
There's too much dragon where I got bored of the dragon.
And the dragon is voiced by Benedict Cumberbatch.
Cumberbatch.
Cumberbatch.
Really?
No, wait, no.
Really, dude?
Say his name.
Benedict Cumberbatch.
That's what we just said.
Isn't it Cumberbatch?
Cumberbatch?
None of you know anything.
This dude's saying Benedict, like, Cumberbatch.
It's a British name.
It's hard to say.
I was fucking sure.
Like this dude's sure.
Oh, sorry.
Conn is the dragon.
Conn Sherlock is the dragon.
Conn Sherlock is the dragon.
And he's okay.
And I got tired of the dragon.
Like, shut the fuck up now.
This dragon talks too much and he doesn't do anything.
I want mind games.
I was really just disappointed by the whole thing.
I was like, this is a mess.
Because they're like, let's make it action.
This one should be all action.
Whereas then the first one was kind of like a fun little adventure.
When I saw the trailers, I was totally disinterested after, especially after I wasn't particularly
fond of the hobbit.
Like, it's all right.
But it's not a bad movie.
Yeah, but I would consider this just a badly paced, like, no substance movie.
I'm still going to check it out just to know.
Yeah, they're spectacle to be seen.
They're great CG.
But like, I go in expecting that.
Did you see any more of the cool badass one-armed...
Didn't he die at the end?
Oh, he didn't die at the end of the way.
You see a little bit more of him.
He's in there, but he's not in it all that much.
Okay.
The girl that plays a female elf, Evangeline Lilly, I watched this with my girlfriend.
She went all this fucking girl.
I can't stand her.
And I was like, why?
I don't...
And then I watched the movie and I was like, oh, she's a bad actress.
This is not great.
Damn.
Perfect casting.
Okay.
Well, you know what's not terrible and looks fucking awesome?
Mmm.
Sunset overdrive.
Sunset overdrive.
Looks okay.
Yeah, looks great.
Super good.
Looks a lot better than it did last week anyway, pal.
You know, it looks pretty good.
Last week it looked like a weird CG trailer.
Like a CG trailer.
Exactly.
And to the point where I was walking around, and I remember I brought up, I was like, what
is this going to be again?
Is this going to be a thing?
And it turns out it's a thing.
And it turns out it's a thing.
It's going to be Jet Set Radio The Shooter versus Mirror's Edge versus...
Jet Set The Shooter.
Slowed down by, like, to point eight.
You know?
A little bit.
But whatever.
It still looks fun.
Not quite as slick as those, but still looks fun.
It still looks fun.
You so...
You so are...
We're so pissed that you had to make fuse that you're like, let's not make that again.
I sent Matt the fucking Overstrike trailer and I said, this is way more depressing after
seeing Sunset Overdrive.
And it's like, oh, would he...
Did you guys not see that when it was initially shown?
No, it was at one of the conferences, I think.
I didn't.
That trailer was shown to everyone's, like, really hype.
That when they showed fuse...
Which was what it turned out to be.
It's the same characters, but everything's like...
I remember what happened with that, right?
They did the focus group stuff.
And 12 year olds were saying, this looks like a game for babies.
So they ruined their game.
The focus group saved it from the target 30 year old male audience.
Yeah, I know.
Like, four.
That was a close one.
We almost had something fun and creative.
Four characters with personalities.
No good.
My favorite thing about Sunset Overdrive is that when I looked at the character, I'm like,
oh, fuck, I don't want to play as the schmuck.
Oh my god.
And then they're like, let's create a character.
You create your own guy, guy or girl.
And I'm like, oh god, thank Christ.
Because I don't want to play as that dude.
It looks too little too dumb.
Is that the one though?
Is that going to be the one?
Yeah.
I'm going to buy an Xbox for that.
Because it's not just for that.
Because it's also I want to play Crimson Dragon and Killer Instinct.
And Killer Instinct.
And I'm excited for only a Japanese game that works.
Crimson Dragon is no good, man.
I've played it.
It's fun.
It gets better when you get faster dragons.
In fact.
In fact, yeah.
Do you have to pay for those live transactions?
In fact, Liam, you've already bought Crimson Dragon.
I did.
Twice, I think.
He'd be buying it at work on the console I was playing on.
Yeah, on the retail.
But then he bought it.
Then I downloaded it on Matt's console and played it at Matt's place.
So he could play it at my place.
The only thing I don't get about Sunset Overdrive, it looks really good.
And the color at the very fucking least, like, especially after fucking Fuse.
You can barely remember the name.
In the worst part, it's the same color.
Like, it's orange.
It's the primary color.
But Fuse's was this horrible neon metallic, like, dew-throat shade.
And this one is straight up Sunny D.
Yeah, yeah.
But it's in the reveal thing.
The guy's talking about, like, man, we want it to be so fast.
And then they cut the footage.
And it's so slow.
It's not nearly as fast as it looks.
It looks totally fine.
But it's like, it's the shot of the dude grinding on a rail while shooting dudes.
It's so slow.
What's weird is that when you do a shot like that when you're on rails,
you can't go too fast because then you can't shoot.
Yeah, then you can't shoot.
So don't show that fucking footage when you say, I want to be fast.
Yeah, show them running through.
Or jumping on guys.
Or using one of its, like, augment things to go quick.
I think what you said earlier, though, is right, Pat.
Like, maybe once the game will be available to you,
I'll be more interested.
Yeah, exactly.
But yeah, like, unlike Liam, I'm not going to buy the X-Bone.
I have enough faith in, like, Microsoft's announcements coming this year,
given that they're launching in Japan soon.
Plus their multi-contract with Platinum, of course.
Don't forget it.
That's the rumor.
I could believe it.
Yeah, that's what it says.
I'll believe that, too.
Totally believe it.
I'll believe it more when I'm buying the X-Bone for the Platinum game.
Yeah, for Band-Aid 3.
For the wonderful 101-2.
Bayo 3, exclusive, would be the most hilarious thing.
It would be so funny.
Just like, now, everyone is mad.
We can't let no one not be mad.
And then Apple buys Bayo 4.
It's like, we've covered all of our bases.
Everyone hates this brand now.
Yeah, okay, then.
And Kingdom Hearts is in the corner just like, nice.
Yeah, I like it.
I like it.
Nothing's going to fucking talk about it.
When I was talking to Maximilian not too long ago,
he was like, ah, fucking, jeez, I hate this party system.
Oh, god, this system's the worst.
But all of my other love killer instincts.
And he said, hey, well, you know, there's Sunset Overdrive.
And he goes, oh, I don't know what that is, but yeah, I want it.
Before the reveal.
Before the reveal.
Yeah, like, it's one of those things where everyone's like, oh, a game.
No, it looks good.
Cool.
It looks more fun.
It looks more fun.
It looks more fun than infamous.
I can't wait for that.
I'm definitely more interested in that than the order.
At least Sunset Overdrive has like a color in it.
Me too.
And hey, speaking of Wonderful 101, like.
Play Wonderful 101.
Sure.
Yeah.
Next on the docket, go buy Wonderful 101.
So Wonder Blue confirms for shut up.
No.
I forgot that was this week.
It feels so long ago.
Yeah, it was like Tuesday.
Shut your butt up.
Wonder Red can still be a character.
No, he's not.
It is not.
They would never reveal it like this.
You think they'd show the trophy and then do the second thing?
His whole thing is fucking with people.
It can still happen.
I will put like $100 on this table.
The Wonderful 101.
Are there trophies?
The previous games.
Are there trophies of the main characters?
Yeah, absolutely.
Right.
So he's right in that they could.
Like it's unlikely the way that you would reveal that.
There's one reason why I'm going to give that a more credibility is because every other
trophy they show you is in-game interacting.
Like Dylan, who fucking showed up this week, last week as well, gets to be in the game
next to Sonic, which is a great thing.
I think they also showed his trophy in the trophy gallery as well.
So that's the only thing is why would they not show him in action as a support trophy?
He's not an assist trophy.
He's not an assist trophy.
He's just a trophy.
He's just a trophy.
He's not even an assist trophy.
What?
Yeah, he's not even an assist trophy.
I thought they were implying he was an assist trophy.
No, but he can still be a thing.
Oh, okay.
You want to put the money down.
I'm just going to cross my fingers.
I'm happy with that.
You know what?
Actually, okay.
Now that I know that, I'm going to change it and go, yeah, he can still be in it.
I'm going to say.
After they did that bullshit with the false Palatena in the direct, like Palatena is super in,
but I'm going to keep crossing my fingers.
We'll see.
No, that's all.
That's all I'm saying.
I'm going to keep crossing my fingers.
We'll see at the Nintendo Direct when the fucking guy gets up and says Wonder Red is banned
from Smash Bros.
It's a ban.
It's a ban.
Because like, yeah, Smash News this week, right?
Smash News this week.
So one, Wonder Red as a statue.
Two, Dylan, you son of a bitch, right?
Is that guy sweet?
You showed up.
Yeah.
Last week.
Yeah, last week.
You know, I'm just glad he's getting recognized, honestly.
I never thought Dylan would get any sort of nod.
Well, I thought a best assist trophy, and sure enough, a best assist trophy, so.
And this week as well.
Banned.
Banned.
Banned.
That was a few weeks old, but yeah.
No way, the stage is good.
The stage is okay.
The stage is okay.
No, I should ban.
You're true.
You're true.
You're actually was banned already.
I dug up this video.
We got no stages.
I dug up this video of these Smash tournament players watching the Smash Nintendo Direct.
Yeah.
And I watched the whole 40-minute thing, and it was hilarious.
And I found someone had cut out the bit where they show all the stages.
Yeah.
And as they're showing the stages, they're yelling whether they're banned or not.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
And it is the funniest thing.
So, what is the guy?
Like 70% of them are banned or counterpicked.
The guy, D1, he's like a tournament organizer for Smash.
Is he a TO?
Yeah, he's a TO for Smash.
Okay.
And he's just fucking yelling over.
I am banned.
I have every stage reveal.
I would love to see Sakurai watching that video and just see his, like, the soul.
Drain out of his face.
Yeah.
Because that's the last thing he wants in the fucking world.
Because that guy's got on to say that the whole Final D for every stage thing is not good enough.
It's not what we want.
They need to make stages with other platforms above them as well.
Well, it's too late.
But it's like, no, we need a kick, Sakurai.
We need a kick, and he gives them a pie.
Yeah, that was my favorite thing about the 40-minute video was when they got to, for glory mode.
And they were just like, that's not right.
Yeah.
That's not right.
Fuck you.
Fuckin' thank you.
Everyone has been saying, for glory is perfect.
It's not.
Is that a walk-off on the right side?
Is that a walk-off on the right side?
I'm saying it's perfect.
Banned.
Command me.
I'm gonna punch you.
I like flat stages more than once.
It's final destination, so you can't jump away from me either when I'm punching you.
Good.
Great.
I'm just gonna get good.
I'm gonna punch your dick open.
Stop jumping away.
It's not about getting good.
It's about matchups.
Every time anyone calls you out for saying get good, you're like, no, it doesn't count.
It's only when I say it's that good.
In most games, it is get good.
Good.
In a fighting game, it's matchups.
Well, now the matchups will be for this stage.
They're already our stage matchups.
Yeah.
The Little Mac wins every matchup.
Good.
Great.
Awesome.
Great for glory mode.
I'm just gonna call it Little Mac's Amazing.
Amazing.
Yes.
Perfect.
You're not gonna hear any complaints from me.
That's garbage.
Yeah.
The only character that matters.
Little Mac, it's a punch-out fighting game.
If there's a way, if there's a way for them to have, like, a fun mode that you play online
where you can still have some stage restrictions.
That's with friends.
That's with friends.
You know that with friends.
That's it.
That's it, then.
Exactly.
I guess.
That'll be the official one.
Yeah.
The other bit that I fucking found pretty cool was tethering his back and now it's super
long.
It's super better.
Oh, and smash.
You can recover with the hook shot or the grapple beam and it's, like, way longer.
It's better for sure.
I love it.
And it looks cooler.
Like, it's the best way to get back onto the stage if you can, stylish-wise.
But you never had much of a reason unless you were trying to do, like, a super, like,
a large high jump trick.
Under the stage and come up on the other side.
This is the change that was probably added due to the balancing of all the characters
around Final Destination.
See?
I don't, I don't really, but, you know, it's just a better, it's a good change.
Which chamber of your ass did you pull that one out of?
The third one.
Nice.
Oh, shit.
That's the darkest chamber.
That's the good one.
The one the hands fit in for all the good stuff is in.
All the good stuff is in.
Phantasy Star Online 2 for the West is in there.
All the good stuff is in the third-ass changing.
I guess also in, I guess, Nintendo-related news is the announcement that Pokemon Omega
Ruby and Alpha Sapphire are coming out.
They're really running out of fucking days.
That is coming.
That was where the flask is beta emeralds.
That was the absolute fucking lamest reveal Nintendo has done in forever.
It was because, hey, stockholder meeting.
It was unbelievable.
It's like, straight up, here's the announcement, here's the maybe box art.
It's done.
And millions of people are hyped.
Yeah.
It's just like-
It's a new Pokemon product.
Like, Nintendo's getting really not great with this annualization thing, and I don't
like it.
Zelda's annualized, Mario's annualized, Pokemon's annualized.
I'm not the only one that's not hyped at all by that announcement.
I'm not hyped, but I played the Pokemon, or I played my Pokemon for the 10-year stretch.
Well, because I jumped out for a reason, and the whole complete reset of the 150 was
part of that keep me away, like, drive, you know?
I was like, ehhh.
Really?
No, for sure.
No, for sure.
Zelda's totally annualized, man.
Oh, good.
No, it's good.
Wait, what's Zelda?
Wait, what's Zelda?
But it's like, man.
What's Zelda game came out this year?
This year?
Hyrule Warriors.
That's confirmed.
It's coming out this year?
Yeah, it's coming out in Japan this summer.
Does annualization-
Also probably-
Does annualization count if it's completely different, like, systems and genres?
It's a lot less shit.
And I like it when it's like that.
Because when I hear annualization, I think Call of Duty and Assassin's Creed.
No, for sure.
I think that too.
When it's spin-offs, it's fine.
Just, they are annualized.
It means the IP is being used constantly.
I'm using it as an objective statement, not as a-
I guess.
Because objectively, I think that's the annualization.
At least Nintendo's doing it better.
Exactly.
Subjectively, it's fantastic.
In a Hyrule Warriors meeting, that's what's going to count to them, like this brand is
being used.
Pokemon, I'm starting to lose interest.
Also, I don't know where I recently set it, but I said that-
Maybe it was last week on the podcast, where Mario Kart is at 720p.
Like they recently came out and said that it's totally at 1080.
Yeah, 1080, yeah.
Like, nice.
You said it, I wanted to call you, but I was like, no, I don't know for sure.
I don't know for sure.
You know, like, when it originally debuted, it was 720.
And that it's been up, like, it's higher now.
I remember there were rumors swirling around E3 that, like, split-screen was 720.
Maybe.
I remember that.
I picked that up for a frame rate thing.
But yeah, that game's going to look really good.
Yeah, it's going to look amazing.
But guess what?
It does look really good.
And it's going to sound amazing.
You splooched a little last week over the music there.
Coming right off the tail of Yoshi's New Island with its killer soundtrack.
Hot off the heels of Yoshi's Island not having music at all.
That's a helicopter.
That's a helicopter.
Man, we should do more things outside.
Nature.
Nature.
Nature.
We're probably going to break up a riot.
Yeah.
You know, summertime.
It's crime time.
Yep.
Oh.
I'm thinking of, like, the person who's going to place the new Mario Kart 8 that's going
to be, like, turn every item that's not from the classic game off.
Turn every stage that's not from the classic game off.
Then you just play HD Mario Kart.
There's going to be a website dedicated to presets.
Yeah.
Like, just, like, you know what I mean?
This is the danger place.
But there's only this mini configuration.
Yeah.
Oh, no.
What you do is you go on Rainbow Road with no sides on it, if that version's in, and
you just, all blue shells.
Just 12 players and it's all blue shells.
Yeah.
So you're in first place and you use the blue shell.
You see yourself.
Your mission is banned.
I'm happy to fucking ban.
I'm happy to fucking ban.
I'm happy to stop the blue shells now.
Oh, what's that?
That's nice.
The horn to stop the blue shells?
Yeah.
I don't even know.
There's a new item that's like a horn.
It's a horn that lets you stop the blue shells.
It's just like a blast of sound, and it knocks everything you've ever heard.
Every item around you gets knocked off.
So if a blue shell is like swirling above you, boom, honk.
Finally.
That was always my problem.
Is there a spiritual successor to the leaf, rather the feather?
The feather jump?
Well, the blue shell wasn't in the game where the feather was in there.
No, no, no.
I'm not.
I just mean the feather jump from your original Part 1 Mario Kart.
I don't think they ever know.
It was a straight up jump.
It's gone.
Damn.
That's a good point.
I wish it could come back.
It's kind of been like thrown by the wayside because now there's ramps everywhere.
You can anti-gravity bullshit all over the stage.
Not that that means anything.
Just means they can make the stage look good.
It just means you can race on other surfaces.
It's probably going to be a thing.
I'm waiting for the day that they introduce, like, invent your own items.
I'm waiting for the day they introduce F-Zero.
I think both of you are going to wait a little while.
Yeah, I know.
It feels like a triple set of blue shells that's around you, and then you shoot them
out, like, cut like, what the fuck?
Yeah, sure, sure.
Triple blue shells would be amazing.
Yeah.
I always wanted octopal red shells.
Well, they got that new one though.
What's it called?
The Crazy Eight?
Crazy Eight.
Yeah.
It's like every power-up song.
They had the Lucky Seven as well in Mario Kart 7.
Oh, I remember that one though.
The other thing that they showed off this week was, oh, the helicopter's on its way
back.
Yeah.
A sneak peek at a bonus stage, or a hidden stage, in Azar Striker Gunvolt.
Yeah.
Did you guys check that video out?
We did not.
Game looks good.
It looks dope.
Game looks awesome.
It's the deal with the stage.
So the stage is basically...
The bonus stage.
It's a bonus stage where Gunvolt is running around and bouncing off of, I guess, directional
boost arrows kind of thing, and then you have to kind of use one of your powers to magnetize
electric float so that you don't fall on spikes and things like that.
You're avoiding traps and whatnot, and you're basically spending the whole stage of the
air.
So you're basically at the whim of everything else.
Most of the stage is spent in the air dodging shit.
It looks really fucking cool.
Yeah.
Game looks good.
Inti Creates.
Inti Creates.
Really doing well.
Well, they said recently, I think they have like two other games in development that
they're working on right now, and they haven't talked about those games yet.
What?
Are you serious?
Yeah, no.
I'm really looking forward to Inti Creates.
They're fucking busy.
Please look forward to it.
Please look forward to their Xbox One exclusive.
Other things going on, Joe Mad pulls an ono and stands up and goes, Dark Siders is not
dead.
Yeah.
He didn't stutter, by the way.
No, it's dead, though.
And everyone's like, what are you talking about?
No.
It's deader than fucking dirt, man.
It's not dead.
Dude, Nordic owns it and they're fucking loaded.
When did you see this?
Today.
Today.
Because he went on to further say stuff.
He's like, yeah, we're going to announce something soon, and Nordic is really behind
the IP.
Nordic really wants to make this come back, yeah.
Yeah.
So he's like, I hope to make an announcement soon.
I don't know whether I'm going to have direct involvement in it, but...
I'm really excited for all of you three.
Because Joe Mad needs to do something because he hates comics.
He doesn't want to keep doing comics again forever.
His thing is game development.
Exactly.
He always wanted to do it.
There's a reason why he'd do all those PSM covers, is because he wanted to be engaged.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Dark Siders cross Dark Stalkers.
I play it.
I play it.
You can't even mix the two.
Side Stalkers.
Dark Side Stalkers.
If it is, it's just going to be straight up like a brand new Dark Siders game, like Dark
Siders 3.
I wonder if they're going to go with the original plan, where it would be a co-op game, where
you had Stripe and Fury.
Oh, yeah.
No, the third one was supposed to be just the two, wasn't it?
It was.
I remember hearing about the second one was supposed to be all four.
I remember the first one was supposed to be all four, but then they're like, we suck,
we can't do this.
It ended up being the third one was going to be Stripe and Fury.
Together?
Yeah.
Okay.
Because they didn't have faith in getting to the fourth one?
Is Stripe and Fury the worst ones?
Sorry.
They didn't have faith in the fourth one?
What do you mean in the fourth one?
Like Y2 and 1?
Oh, no, they just wanted to step it up.
Okay.
Yeah, exactly.
But when you look at like DS2, it's already super stepping up.
Like they were going up on a exponential level.
Stripe and Fury are the worst things about the Darksiders franchise.
Dreyfus is the warden.
No, he's not.
Yeah, he is.
Any time you had to change the whip, she's awesome.
Any time you had to change the point of the four horsemen in the park, that was my trial.
The problem was because a famine was going to be like, what?
Like an iOS game in Africa, where you take food away from people?
No.
What are you going to do for a famine?
You have powers, you suck energy from people's stomachs, you turn them into zombies, you
try to get them.
You can get creative.
No, we saw Deadhead Fred, that didn't work.
Famine isn't even the one that you're like, oh crap, it's pestilence.
Pestilence kids.
Pestilence is ass.
Yeah.
But Stripe and Fury are the worst ones.
Pestilence in our heads is basically a nerd from Warhammer.
Did you look at their designs?
I did.
They're lame generic image comics designs.
Exactly.
I was going to say.
We need more image comics.
I'm just the guy with guns now.
Fury's got the whip.
Okay.
They're lame.
Like major lame by comparison.
No, they're just lame.
They're mirror glasses.
Yeah, they are.
Right?
That you just throw on everything.
Well, they're just dark.
Yeah, they're just gone.
Why do you look so lame?
Because I've never heard him be so wrong about anything.
Now you know how it feels.
Pestilence should be just like second son, particle diseases that you just throw on things
and people.
Sure.
But I mean like.
Famine, I don't know.
I don't know what the fuck you do.
But even that, is that worthwhile?
Yes.
You're just making like a different game with cool guys.
Or you're making them off, making a guy with guns.
Sure.
Especially if you want to make a Zelda game.
We understand.
I get the point.
But it's a concession.
But at the same time.
But at the same time.
This guy's not cool enough.
For sure.
If you're, the whole point of your thing is to be, you're going to be trading on the
name of this super, super famous and iconic thing to go 90% of the way there and then
change one of the guys.
It's fucking weird.
It's awful.
But it doesn't matter.
But to me, it's like Dante's Inferno.
I don't even know why you're joining comparison between the two.
Because you have the seven deadly sins that are supposed to be accurate.
Yeah, they're supposed to be accurate.
I don't care.
Like what are you bickering about?
I don't care.
That's what you prefer.
Yeah, that's not so much prefer.
But this is a thing that they decided to make.
Then they're like, oh wait, we're not creative enough to do anything with these two.
So let's give them a whip and two guns.
And two of the other characters, Death and War, already use guns.
Like it's the most derivative.
They use stripes guns.
They literally have stripes guns.
So it's even more boring.
It's even more boring.
Because I've already used those exact guns.
But obviously stripes way better with them.
The Dark Siders world is really creative and interesting.
But then for the two of the main characters, they said fuck it.
Just we don't know what to do.
I don't know why you're being so presumptuous.
Because it's lazy.
It's lazy to me.
I wouldn't say it's lazy, but I'd say it's...
These are some of the least lazy guys.
Super uninspired.
But those two parts are lazy and uninspired.
I think that's presumptuous.
Would you agree with me if I said it was uninspired?
I don't know.
Not necessarily.
Because again, what do you do with pestilence and fuck it?
It's not my job.
I'm not an artist.
It's not my job.
I'm not an artist.
But that's what I'm saying.
Think about it more than not trying.
But you gotta make a Zelda game.
You gotta make a Zelda game.
It could have made anything.
No.
The first one is fine.
Take war, whatever.
The second one is fine.
The rest, it's like they're just guys with guns and swords again.
Just lazy.
Just to be found in pestilence are just like green guys who do whatever.
Then it shouldn't have been called...
It shouldn't have even had the characters begin with.
Then yeah, then they shouldn't have been called the Force Horseman.
They should have been called the cool guys who ride horses.
I think it's fine the way it is.
Either way.
Either way.
The games you can say they were...
You said they were approaching character action towards the end there.
The second one.
The second one approaches it.
It's like right on the edge.
Totally.
And it wants to also be Diablo.
And also Prince of Persia.
And also Prince of Persia.
And also Shadow of the Colossus.
And just a little bit Portal as well.
So there's a project that's being worked on that is starting out full blown character
action because the guy that's making this is like a big DMC fan, huge aficionado, etc.
And apparently this...
I think this started in like...
You mean a big fan of DMC Devil May Cry?
No.
No, no, no.
Sorry.
There's no such person.
There's Awakening, DMC4, Bayonet, etc.
And this project sort of started, I think, on the crazy threads that they would have
on Video Games General on 4chan.
The project is called We Will Wake.
We Shall Wake, sorry.
And you guys, I think, might be interested in checking this out.
I looked at some footage of it.
I heard it.
Where's it coming from?
Where's it going?
Is it Kickstarter?
Or is it just like, I'm doing it?
One guy's just like, I'm doing this thing.
And he's making it and he has some footage up now of like, I think the fifth beta of it.
No real textures so far, like very basic, you know, test footage.
But the combat looks fucking dope, which is what you want to nail from day zero.
Of course.
Well remember when you watched the Eyes of Bayonetta DVD and you saw even when there's
just rocky models, Bayonetta's combat still works.
The mysterious judo fighters, they don't know where they come from.
The thing we were talking about earlier with Sunset Overdrive looking kind of slow at some
point, this is the complete opposite.
This is the fastest fucking third person action thing I've seen.
Really?
Because you see the guy like grab dudes and like has a guy holding him by the head and
is sprinting down a hallway like at sonic speeds.
Okay, sure.
And then throws the guy into the distance and he's gone.
And then like he teleports back to another dude.
Did you get the feeling that this is a person that played like the turbo mode in DMC3 and
DMC4?
I was like, this isn't fast enough.
I want it faster.
And you can locking onto dudes from way, way in the distance and just speeding up to them
into a launcher going to your combos like fucking nuts.
So what's this called?
We shall fall.
We shall wake.
We shall wake.
Yeah, this is going places.
I think it'll probably take him a while if he's doing it by himself.
Yeah, of course.
But go check out the little thing for it, see what I'm talking about with the combat.
It's fun, man.
All right, cool.
Other things that are happening in the indie, just do it.
Just do it.
Do it.
Game world.
I did what?
It didn't exist.
I wanted it, so I wanted to do it.
So I did it.
Can you guys help me do it?
Never Alone is a game that's being done by I think an Alaska, a team of Alaskan natives.
Oh yeah, I saw this.
It looked really interesting.
Yeah, and it seems really interesting.
Exactly.
Like a side scrolling adventure.
It kind of reminds me of Lost Winds a little bit.
Like definitely like a different culture coming into there.
Mixing a little bit of limbo in there when it's running from the spider monster thing.
But it just looks like a really great game that's narrated in a native language.
Unfortunately, I can't nail it down.
They change the term here in Canada every couple of years.
Yeah, but no, it depends on the tribe.
Yeah, it depends on the tribe.
There's a major influence from that and it's based on old stories from the Alaskan natives
that are trying to preserve that in Alaska.
So fun stuff, man.
I think that's a cool place to tell your stories.
I forgot there was an old cartoon on Teletune.
Oh god, I already know what you're talking about.
You know the one I'm talking about?
I don't know the name of the other.
Which one?
Nanook's Adventure or something like that.
Oh god, yeah.
That sounds familiar.
Yeah, it was a similar sort of style to it.
And I was like, that's fun.
And I like that.
Send the kid off into the wild with a harpoon.
No, man.
It's fun times.
Go figure it out.
You'll die frozen and alone and I'll track you down, Wolverine.
The rival is always a giant polar bear of some kind.
That's a good rival.
Right of passage.
It's always a polar bear with a big scar over his eye.
Yeah, because he took out your father.
Yeah, exactly.
That's how those go.
The guys that are making Hyper Light Drifter announced a four player brawler called Kyoto
Wild.
That's cool.
That's a good name.
I didn't hear about this.
Yeah.
That's a good name.
They're showing off really early screenshots.
So it's a bit hard to tell what exactly it's going to look like.
What are the Ultra Pre-Productions?
Isometric View.
Ooh.
Like it's zoomed out and you're going to have all four characters on screen at the
same time.
It seems like you're also going to be able to go into towns and stuff while battling.
So it's not exactly clear yet, but it's a really early announcement that fucking Hyper
Light guys are working on something else and it's going to be a four player.
Does it have an animated gif to blow our minds?
Yeah.
Not yet.
You tell them if you're still making it.
Zoomed.
30% of development time is making the animated gif.
I don't know what it is, but when it's a good animated gif, I'm sold.
The one specific one?
Yeah.
Fuck out.
What's it out?
Rezogun.gif.
Rezogun.gif was a good one.
That was a killer.
Well, now it's not WebM.
It came before WebM, so that's quite unfortunate.
But that Rezogun DLC is going to have WebMs.
I betcha.
Does Rezogun DLC come?
Or whatever it is that they're working on that they were like, first was Rezogun,
next is going to be even better.
Maybe it'll be Super Rezogun.
It's Super Rezogun.
No, wait.
Super Stardust already started as Super Stardust.
It started as Super Stardust.
Yeah, exactly.
We've got some other stuff going on.
Capcom announced their...
Nothing.
They released their...
Monster Hunter Faraday OS.
Yay, you can play with a controller.
You can play with a controller on your iPhone.
Fuck.
Yeah, we can actually be silent and let the wind take care of it really right now.
No, they showed off their annual portfolio.
It's my favorite part of the show where Liam just dies inside.
Global Games are the one that's doing it.
They're showing their business strategy, right?
Which is what?
What business strategy?
What did you gleam?
It was a full...
No, I know what it is.
It was a full diagram of what their strategy is and how their profit is.
It involved a guy with a bucket of money and he was tipping it out.
Into a bucket of shit.
Well, at the bottom they had two buckets.
One with a question mark and one that said profit.
So, it's going to land somewhere in the mystery bucket.
The new fed sweeping Japanese publishers wasting money.
Cut to like a guy just staring at you while sliding like thousands of thousands of dollars.
Smiling.
Smiling, yeah.
You know, and it's harrowing and depressing because we're not clueless about this.
I read up on this kind of stuff a lot, obsessively.
You do, you know a lot.
Yeah.
And there were numbers out this week and in Japan, roughly 30% of people play on dedicated consoles
and roughly 30% of people play on smart devices.
Yeah.
And that is a...
And the remaining...
And the remaining 30% fills it out exactly.
Between everything else.
Yeah.
And it's depressing.
So, we see why they're doing it.
Yeah.
But we don't have to like it.
The big numbers that they put out on this graph were that 30% of their profits come from
arcades and licensing...
What?
Street Fighter, Street Fighter.
Like arcade machines and arcade like whatever related things.
Okay.
And licensing IPs to other companies.
Oh, totally.
So, those...
So, what they call that is mature markets, right?
Stuff that's like this is the money that it's going to make and we can't do anything else.
Yeah.
But have it exist, you know?
Okay.
And then 70% of it comes from new games, new like stuff that they developed themselves.
Yeah.
Okay.
Right.
And so, they're basically looking at it and going, we can grow this side of things.
It can grow, yeah.
We can't grow the other side, but we'll always have that solid 30% as a...
But what if you tried harder?
Like for arcades?
What does that mean?
No, like for like console games.
For cream bank games.
What if you tried harder?
I mentioned the pad earlier.
I'm just excited to see Capcom's lineup for consoles.
Cause we've seen Deep Down and Dead Rising and they're cool, but like...
I don't know if I...
What's next?
And don't think Deep Down looks cool?
No.
I find Dead Rising like super underwhelming and I...
Deep Down, like I was talking to you, like I think it looks cool.
I'm sure it'll be awful because of the microtransactions.
But guess what?
Dead Rising made money.
It did.
It was profitable for them.
Yeah, absolutely.
I'd rather that developers stop fucking making Dead Rising.
Yeah, I'd rather they make Dead Rising in Japan again.
Dead Rising, Monster Hunter, and what was the other thing they put out?
Double May Cry?
Lost Planet?
No, seriously.
Oh god, what was the language for them stealth releasing?
Powerful.
Like Lost Planet 3 didn't perform well due to powerful...
No, due to competitive whatever.
Yeah, it was such bullshit.
You fucking stealth released your fucking game and it got buried.
You know what?
The real reason it didn't perform is because everyone saw Pat play the game for three seconds
and immediately say, man, this looks like shit.
Then everyone, like, thought the same thing and no one bought it.
Yeah.
Tell you what though, when you release a game like Dead Rising 3 and it makes the money,
you don't tell them to stop making it.
No, but make another IP, but maybe make a little summoner to maybe have zombies in it
but don't stop making Dead Rising.
Please, please stop making it.
Like the Dead Rising games have gotten worse every game.
Yeah.
Like, stop.
Every single game.
Like Dead Rising 1's the best and then Case Zero is the second best and then Dead Rising
2.
I mean, I also record.
Yeah, and then that fucking horrible Case West bullshit, well they're not going to stop
making them so fix them.
No, they tell them to stop.
It was part of the...
Are you going to go into the six franchises they listed in the stuff?
Go ahead.
The six franchises that are going to continue growing and pushing.
Resident Evil Street Fighter, obviously.
Shocker.
The two biggest money makers they've ever had ever.
Arguably alongside Monster Hunter, which is the next one.
Yeah, Monster Hunter is getting there, but I think it's not old enough to get there.
It needs more time.
Oh, it's already in the super profit section though.
Okay.
One million units.
So Monster Hunter is the third one.
Monster Hunter is super in there and then Lost Planet, which I'm thankful that's there
because they clearly got to go back to the drawing board on that.
Oh yeah.
Uh, Devil May Cry.
Thank God that's there.
And it's not just gone.
I would not expect that name in the list at all.
It was there.
And the other one was Dead Rising.
Yeah, whatever.
So DMC.
No Mega Man in there, shockingly.
DMC Devil May Cry I think is like...
I was looking over the numbers.
I think it's still the second worst selling DMC game.
So what would...
I think to date it's like two and a half.
What was the point of DMC again?
DMC Devil May Cry's point was to reboot it so that you could get it to a new audience
and it would sell more than DMC4.
DMC4, if we remember, was tracked to sell like 7 million units.
Like really early in the generation.
But they anticipated 12 or 9.
It was a ridiculous number.
They got 4 and that was awesome.
And DMC3, both SKUs combined I think sold over 3 million also.
But if you add the PC SKU.
But 4 outsold 3.
4 outsold 3 handily and it was a huge success.
And DMC Devil May Cry is tracking to be like half of that thing.
Because 4, despite being a success, was not considered a success due to the expectations.
I find it so weird that you had...
They want a call of duty money.
That you have a specific goal and your specific goal is to do this.
And then you completely fail in every regard.
Like in terms of we want this to sell more.
Here's what we're doing to make this sell more.
It's sold less.
Why?
Who?
Who is to blame?
Everyone.
Everyone is to blame.
Again, I'm really glad.
I don't think we're going to see Dante anymore.
I really don't think we're going to see him again.
Not as a main character anyway.
No.
I think they're fucking...
You know what you're going to get?
You're going to get Devil May Cry Generations.
Maybe.
You're going to be able to select between Dante and Dante.
Maybe they'll just switch it to Noro.
I mean the fact...
Oh god.
Oh that feels bad.
Don't.
Don't.
And they're going to have an old man, Dante, and he's going to be a hobo.
Shut up.
And he's going to have the beard and everything.
But he's going to be a hobo.
They'll find the way to JJ Brimsett and have them meet and talk for once.
Yeah.
No.
Like the fact that the...
Oh shit, I lost my point.
Sorry.
I'm just glad that Devil May Cry and Lost Planet are still on that list.
Because LP3 and DMC were of course failures.
I wish you could swap out Lost Planet and put Mega Man in there.
Lost Planet's great.
It's not to Mega Man.
I'm not going to bicker over this.
That's not my point at all.
I just wish Capcom wouldn't focus on that anymore.
It's a shame EX Troopers wasn't a success.
But like clearly they have to go back to the drawing board on both of these franchises.
And I'm looking forward to whatever they try.
Lost Planet 1's still a lost planet game.
I think 2 is better.
But like...
Yeah.
I can see why you say that.
And I like EX Troopers the best, Frank.
What I was going to say is that we have confirmed that there are internal Capcom dudes
that love the shit out of old Dante and Virgil in New York.
Oh yeah.
And want them back.
So as long as those guys...
Yeah.
Dudes that were probably told we're taking Dante away from you
and giving it to these dudes.
The entire Marvel vs. Capcom 3 team.
Like they all fucking love that shit.
Hey it's Suno.
You want to make Dragon's Dogma?
Yeah.
Okay.
We're going to...
Maybe you should have made the first one sell better.
We're going to give...
I think there was something there.
No it's alright.
Dragon's Dogma like did okay.
It did okay.
Did like half a million in Japan.
Something like that.
I wish they would...
I love how it did okay.
And it was also sacrificed to make DMC.
Yeah.
The DMC team was all absorbed into the Dragons.
No.
Dragon's Dogma was supposed to sell 10 million units.
Yeah.
Dragon's Dogma was supposed to be the biggest team.
No.
But I mean it just...
Like it didn't...
It performed okay.
And also made Devil May Cry worse.
Oh.
You should have looked to find out how the DLC did.
Just out of curiosity.
Oh what?
You mean Dark Arisen?
Yeah.
It was a packaged game.
Yeah.
I don't think they ended up making it DLC at all.
Oh no shit.
Yeah.
And it's a huge overall of the game.
It's super Dragon's Dogma.
It's super Dragon's Dogma.
Yeah.
It's great.
Dragon's Dogma Arcade Edition.
Absolutely.
That's exactly what it is.
Because I totally thought that was just a giant DLC.
No.
It's sold alright.
Yeah.
Totaling.
Alright.
Like Dragon's Dogma did alright.
Just not 10 million.
And that's why it's up in the air.
Like is this going to come...
10 million?
I hope nobody...
They looked at Skyrim and they said...
Fuck you.
They said Skyrim and hey, we made a game with better lore, better gameplay, better graphics,
better this, better that, better everything and not better everything.
Not better everything.
Nobody wanted it.
What does Skyrim have that Dragon's Dogma is worse at?
Usability.
Story is worse than Dragon's Dogma.
Yeah.
But like the usability and like gameplay mechanics.
Hey man.
Here's the deal.
I like Dragon's Dogma a lot better than Skyrim.
I know.
I'm not going to argue that.
Yeah.
But like it's really obvious that Skyrim does a lot of things way better than Dragon's
Dogma.
These particular aspects are way more important to the casual user.
No.
I agree.
And it's depressing.
Just having the word Elder Scrolls in your title is a good deal.
And I agree.
And it's depressing because Elder Scrolls online.
Yeah.
Oh.
Yeah.
No.
When these types of things happen, when there's a big success like Grand Theft Auto
and then like Call of Duty and then Skyrim, any game that tries to emulate it like we
want those numbers, it's never as good.
No.
It never sells as good.
It blows me away though.
Saints is like one of the only ones recently that got anywhere.
And they're totally different.
And they had to get off.
Exactly.
They were smart with that eventually.
Exactly.
Thank God for that.
It blows me away that like it's like you always get this cycle of people trying to
copy the biggest thing and like I feel like people gave like tried the hardest for Grand
Theft Auto and gave up the fastest.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Because that PS2 era of like thug games was Saints Row one and two.
It was the goddamn worst.
Fuck off.
I don't like it.
And but like it was super clear when Vice City and San Andreas came out that like no
you guys aren't doing it.
Yeah.
Well when has it really worked though with the exception of Saints Row three which just
went its own way.
Yeah.
When has the clone, clone, the numbers?
APB was really promising.
It just didn't sell.
And even the game's fun.
No.
It got fucking canned.
But it got fixed.
Not canned.
Not canned.
But it got like canceled after a while.
No.
It got canceled then it came back.
The original developer is all quit because it was.
But yeah.
And it was fun in its final form.
You guys think of a single.
Okay.
No.
That's what I mean.
You guys think it was an MMO.
Oh I thought you meant good.
Sorry.
Not good.
Good we can find examples of.
I mean success.
Yeah.
Can you think of any like clone that said we want the Call of Duty money that actually
got.
But even they didn't get the fucking.
It was fine.
The Grand Theft Auto money.
It was all right.
But you know what I mean right.
It sold over a million on its first two iterations.
It wasn't gigantic but it's well.
That's what I'm talking about.
Has there ever been one that actually.
Yeah.
Managed to do it.
And I can't think of a single one.
I'm sure there are.
Can't think of it.
The hunting genre is like rife with that.
No it's not.
Well no.
I mean.
Monster Hunter took it from Fantasy Star.
Okay.
Now it's not MMO.
MMO is.
The original defense of the ancients.
Yeah.
Is still actively played and supported to this day.
Okay.
Dota 2 is taken up pretty hard.
What was the chronological release of the standalone games after that.
Standalone for Dota.
Dota was a mod for Warcraft 3.
Yeah.
And it was active for years and years and years and years and years.
And there's tons of little ones we don't know anything about.
Nobody knows anything except for League of Legends.
And Rise and Heroes of New Earth.
Yeah.
And then Dota 2 came out.
How about this.
What was the significant one?
Did you consider Warcraft taking it over from EverQuest.
That.
Oh yes.
Yeah.
You know what.
Yeah.
That's the one.
I was just going to say maybe not just because Blizzard was still so revered.
No I think no.
Blizzard straight up said we want to make a game like EverQuest.
And they made a game just like EverQuest.
That's way better than EverQuest.
EverQuest was the MMO.
It was like the only MMO that people had ever played.
And I think that's the key.
Is that you have to make the same game but better in literally every respect.
Like Dragon's Dog and Skyrim are not the same game at all.
Including price point.
Yeah.
But it's like those like you had EverQuest and then you had EverQuest 2 and you had
Wow.
Then you sat right next to each other and like one.
Wow.
It was like a fucking quantum leap in quality over the other.
So yeah.
You went for that one.
I was going to say Tekken versus Street Fighter.
I was no Virtua Fighter.
Dude Tekken's like the best selling fighting game ever.
It's not.
Street Fighter it is.
It is.
Harada even came out and said it like a month ago.
Pretty sure Street Fighter is combined units.
No no no.
Tekken didn't take over.
It was successful though.
That's a lot of other.
I never said that.
You just said anything that copied it that succeeded.
Yeah.
That isn't Tekken copying Virtua Fighter.
It doesn't matter.
Tekken succeeded.
Well Namco and Sega in the arcades.
Namco and Sega were in like super competition with each other.
Tekken fucking did it.
Wow was an example.
Okay but Tekken copied Virtua Fighter then.
Whatever.
I'll take that.
And it did it.
I'd say Tekken did it for Street Fighter.
Not in Japan.
It's true.
Not nowadays.
But worldwide Tekken.
Worldwide's what matters.
We're talking about GTA in the first place anyway.
Yeah.
I guess.
It's a bit more grayer I think when you're bringing Tekken in there.
I don't think so.
Because are we going with Virtua Fighter as the fighting game?
No I say so because I mean I don't.
I'd say so because Namco and Sega were competing in the arcades.
Like you have a like gun shooter.
We have a like gun shooter.
Time crisis.
Yeah.
And then they did the same thing with a fighter.
You have Virtua Fighter.
Holy shit.
And then to me like Tekken 1 looks super ugly compared to Virtua Fighter.
Even though Virtua Fighter's graphics are more basic.
But their character designs are whatever are so ugly.
But everyone's still latched onto it because they're crazier.
There are ninjas and guys with Jaguar masks and stuff.
And then like Tekken just sold way more worldwide.
Because Americans are a little more appealing than Virtua Fighter.
You know what this reminds me of?
This whole discussion reminds me of how Titanfall was supposed to be that for Call of Duty.
Of course.
And now we have EA very publicly like hey what are the numbers?
Now shut the fuck up.
You don't deserve the numbers.
That wasn't what happened at all.
Someone asked by email and they just didn't respond.
Yeah but last week they also wasn't last week that they publicly slammed the NPD saying
gross distortion of the industry when NPD reported on the Titanfall numbers.
It's so weird that Titanfall was slated to do that though.
When you think about the fact that it was such a stunted development.
Yeah.
And it was only available in like two systems.
Dude it doesn't matter.
It's marketing and role and quality.
It doesn't matter.
It's marketing.
It doesn't matter.
Have you seen Titanfall?
Liam my point is that it was like what we're talking about is has the blank killer ever
actually killed anything?
Dude I was just making a side point on Titanfall.
Yeah and Titanfall was supposed to be that and boy did it not do that.
Only because of the marketing.
And it just didn't succeed.
I don't think only because of the marketing.
Top selling fighting game.
Harada's like yo it's totally Tekken.
Tekken let's see this who's number one in fighting sales.
Harada says Tekken with 42.5 million copies sold to date.
Is this every Tekken game all together as an IP?
Yeah.
Okay that's I guess but I mean.
It's on event and it's quoted from Harada.
I know but I mean like now we're talking like the full IP including all of its possible
versions as opposed to Saints Row versus Saints Row 3.
I think we're asking for something that copies Titan.
And I think really just doesn't want to find it to be the best.
I was thinking of specific individual titles.
I mean I wouldn't say World Cr-
Clearly the best selling fighting game of all time is time killers.
Clearly.
Yeah.
Possibly.
What am I thinking of?
No your time killers is correct but there's also time slaughter.
Or Rise of the Robots.
Or Rise of the Robots.
Possibly.
Or Rise 2 Resurrection.
Tekken 2048 came out and massacred that original game that the guy worked so hard to make.
You're familiar with 2048?
No 2048.
Oh no it's 2048.
What is that?
That's the like mobile slash PC game where you just move numbers around.
Oh that thing is.
And it came out and massacred the original that someone made a week before.
And the Candy Crush saga.
You know what?
I bet there's a billion of these in the mobile market because that market is dirt.
Flappy Bird killed whatever was before Flappy Bird.
Angry Birds killed Tassel Crushers by X-Gen.
Angry Birds killed every Flash game made in all new grounds in the mid 90s.
I'd say Final Fight and Street Fighter eclipsed Double Dragon.
Oh well nowadays especially.
Totally good point.
They were clearly the boss.
They at least continue to exist and are recognizable for them.
It was much easier to do that in the arcade days because all you had to do was be bigger,
louder and have like live action and or giant beautiful sprites.
Yeah you're right.
It was easier to do it back then.
Sonic for a little while went nuts in the 90s too.
Interesting other things is like as we're talking about the market and what picks up
and what doesn't is Sony saying that triple A economics don't work on the Vita.
This is known.
Liam could have told you that ages ago and so could Atlas.
They replied to someone's comments on whether or not we're going to be seeing triple A titles
and then a lot of those things coming to the Vita more.
I forgot a specific question.
Hey you promised triple A games.
Where are the triple A games at basically?
And what they're saying is you'll be able to play remote, play triple A games.
I mean so shut up.
Like the obvious PR answer which is like what am I going to say like no?
Now for handhelds what would be constituted a triple A game?
Uncharted Golden Abyss, Killzone vs. Snery.
Okay yeah.
Resident Evil Revelations.
Resident Evil would that count?
Yeah totally.
Because yeah no no shut those games do garbage.
But like you know your would Persona 4 Golden count is that?
Almost.
I think it would be like on the line.
No I would say it would be on the line and that's as far as you can possibly push it
with like hunting games like you look at hunting games and those have like you can see where the money goes
and there's not a lot.
So something like even Freedom Wars which looks like the triple A is shit ever.
It's not really double A.
I think it's in that class of that.
But like that's a big thing of marketing playing into how triple A is something.
I find this really slow because how triple A games don't like you should have known that.
When you made the fucking system.
No when you made the PSP is that like the reason why people like and you can see that in mobile stuff
people the reason like handheld games because they're quick fun games you can play in a certain way
but when you try to make big games then you're pat going I just want to play this on a console.
The differences triple A worked on PSP.
Did it?
They worked better.
They worked better.
The Dissidia, the God of Wars, the Final Fantasy including Crisis Corps, the Metal Gears they all succeeded.
Yeah.
And they were all triple A's.
The market was a bit different on the PSP and the PSP.
It was.
So mobile games went on.
Yeah.
So the release and sale of a game like Soul Sacrifice is important to the performance of the video.
Oh that's not today.
Yeah.
Not Soul Sac Delta.
No.
But like if it was an original IP or like a big explosive game.
Yeah.
Okay.
Because I'm trying to say like I'm trying to gauge what can we call like the equivalent of triple A.
I thought you were segwaying into Sony's lack of marketing for Soul Sacrifice Delta.
No.
Okay yeah.
I'm going to name it and say like a double A or single A.
Like you know what I mean?
Title is double A.
No I know.
But you know what I mean?
Like something that is.
What draws the line?
Yeah.
What is still influential on a console of this size that would get the point across that you're trying to establish?
Nothing that you can predict with numbers.
Like nobody I think would have predicted from launch that Persona 4 would be one of the top selling games by a landslide.
I literally predicted that.
But by a landslide.
And that it would be a top seller by a landslide.
Yes absolutely.
But by games even in the future that you didn't know about the release later.
Yes for a year I was calling that a Persona 4 device.
No but that was like after the fact.
The fact that you knew about it for a year.
Like you knew.
No.
As soon as that game got announced I just assumed that that thing would sell gangbusters.
Sure.
Compared to everything else.
But I mean from the very beginning.
Like that was unwise of me.
Right.
But I ended up being right.
But any game that you can't predict selling over a couple hundred thousand units I think draws the line.
It's a weird.
Because once you have a game that's selling a couple hundred thousand and then it's moving a significant amount of hardware I feel.
It's a weird.
If you're under that you're not moving enough hardware that it's really like a hardware mover.
It's a weird niche device for weird niche games.
So those are the best.
They'll do the best.
And those games will become the quote unquote triple A's.
Yeah.
I think like Freedom Wars and Orishka 2 and stuff like Teraway and Kills on the Mercenary were totally triple A's.
Yeah.
And we may not see anymore.
Freedom Wars is not a triple A game.
Well they're in that class of like system sellers for sure.
Yeah.
But the triple A usually denotes the budget.
Well it's a combination of budget and marketing frankly.
Yeah.
And it has neither.
It has marketing in Japan.
Yeah.
Like you said before we're talking worldwide.
I don't know.
So it's.
I'm just saying.
You know what doesn't have marketing anywhere.
Fucking Soul Sack Delta.
God.
And it's a shame.
You're the he's the marketing.
Me and Lee only guy.
I'm gonna buy it.
I don't have much cost.
No I know.
Like that's ridiculous.
I'm like.
I just reminded you it came out today.
Yeah.
I'm a bit bothered that the marketing is so down on it.
But at the same time like you look at the numbers and it's like no fucking shit.
It's a it's a it's a super re-release.
Like.
Exactly.
Like and Delta in Japan sold a bit under half which.
That seems fair.
That's fair.
Considering Delta considering Soul Sacrifice is the biggest IP ever.
It was like alright whatever.
In North America Soul Sacrifice in its first month sold like 40,000 units.
Yeah.
Of course they don't have a marketing campaign for it.
It's free on the 4S Plus though.
It is.
That counts for serials.
But it's like of course they don't have a fucking marketing campaign.
It sucks.
I wish they could.
Yeah well.
Nobody bought it.
It's sold for the first month.
Like there's your problem.
The guy pulls his spine out of his throat.
You look at your projections and it's like of course it doesn't need a multi-thousand
dollar marketing budget when you're only going to sell a couple thousand dollars worth of
units.
I'm sorry.
It's getting distracted because this motherfucker in the window up there keeps going open in
those pizza boxes and eating pizza.
I keep noticing that too.
Yeah.
It's about pizza for all the kids.
God damn it.
We should go get pizza after this.
I haven't eaten anything.
Yeah we'll get pizza.
Let's go get pizza.
Let's go get pizza.
Podcast over.
Not yet.
Not yet.
We still have to talk about Tomodachi Life.
Oh Tomodachi Life.
What about Tomodachi Life.
You guys.
Is there a story about this?
Somebody tell me what the fuck that game is.
We're the super best Tomodachi.
It's a life simulator.
It's cute and weird and Japanese.
Is it just straight up Tomodachi?
No.
Tomodachi means friend.
In a sense it's actually similar to that kind of.
What am I doing this?
You take your me and then you give him a life.
So it's like a cross between the Sims and Animal Crossing?
Yes.
You have a silly kooky fun time with your friends.
And you have more exactly kooky fun times and hijinks and you can get married and you
can have a baby.
And no one thought Nintendo would ever bring that out here because why would they?
No exactly.
Because it's weird Japanese culture.
You can only get married to a woman if you are a man and so on and so forth.
Nintendo has apologized for that today.
Yesterday.
A couple days ago.
But they are also with that apology saying we can't change the code guys.
Exactly.
It's too late.
The game is literally like it comes out next month.
It is done.
The game is finished and NOA right now.
And they're printing it.
Like that's literally what's going on.
And it doesn't stop the pitchforks and stuff.
I mean admittedly it's like you should have probably considered that when you were making
it.
Not when you're making it for Japan and then not considering ever putting it out in North
America or Europe.
The thing is when you're a big company and you're releasing a title.
It takes too long to turn.
Like don't fuck it up at the beginning so that you don't have to apologize for it later.
Yes will it.
You're right.
Completely right.
But once it happens.
We're gonna hit that iceberg.
Okay.
In Skyrim can you marry a man.
Yeah totally.
You totally can.
So if you're a company that.
Dragons age.
Sleep with whoever you want.
Yeah.
If you're a company that's like you know that you have more kids playing your thing.
And if your rating says whatever I can always see a company being a little nervous about
being more nervous about the backlash of crazy like religious people or whoever like bigots
whatever.
Conservative folk.
Conservative folk.
Super mad.
Yelling you are corrupting my kids and they're all mixed up and stupid rather than the group
of people that are like oh but we want to be represented that's always gonna be a smaller
group than the people complaining unfortunately.
Not always but.
In most cases.
But the statement was we never want to Tomodachi life to be a social statement.
No.
Which is the most bullshit thing to say.
Nobody ever wants anything to be a social statement.
At the end of the day they gave the best possible answer which was in the next game we'll have
it.
Which is nice if they follow through with that and the next game never gets localized.
If they drop the ball they deserve so much shit but otherwise it's like they gave the
best possible answer and that's unfortunately we're gonna hit that iceberg might as well
just put your face right in it.
The thing that irks me or the patch to fix the thing that people are doing where you
could make a male character that was completely female and all its traits and appearances
yeah or vice versa.
Thus making no that's that's not patched out at all that that was a rumor circulated by
people who are being mean about it.
Yeah no that's still in there.
It's not a bug.
You can make your character look however they are just like in real life and they can be
whichever gender they choose.
Ah so this is the way to bullshit your way around the restriction.
You can do that.
So you set it to female but then you just give it all male.
You just decorate them however you want.
The bug that they fixed which I think was in the DS version was an actual bug where
you'd make a guy and at some point he would actually just label them as a girl.
He decided to make a change in his life it's fine.
So the thing that the same statement that the PR person was talking about referred to
a bug.
That was the one where it was an actual bug where the gender would just flip.
And yeah and there was a guy and a guy and they had a baby.
And no that's a different thing that's that that's the first thing which was the thing
where people just dress up the opposite way.
It's the most confusing fucking mess I've heard in.
I think Liam knows.
There was a lot of people there was a lot of people being really malicious about this
thing and there was a lot of people no shit there's people being malicious about this
issue.
There was a lot of people fighting for their position who were poorly informed.
So they were fighting for it and saying look at these pictures where in the Japanese version
you can play as two guys and have a baby or whatever but it was actually a girl dressed
up as a guy and they were misinformed.
Oh were they applying that they censored it out of the American world.
Without knowing without knowing and of course that got mixed in with the fix for the other
thing where there was an actual bug.
You know what sometimes I see why companies don't localize Japanese games because it ends
up in these huge clusterfucks.
It's a shame but at the same time like next time they'll have it and well next time they're
not going to localize it.
I don't see why not because there's not no sales are still there I don't think they will.
There's a market for stretch panic I don't see why not.
Like okay I remember when Elite Beef agents came out and Reggie Percy said oh that didn't
sell all that well to us it sold like over a hundred K but they were hoping for way way
more because they got Beyonce in that shit they got fake Beyonce and they got fake Beyonce
in that shit and then we never got the sequel localized so I was always disappointed.
We never got the sequel.
We never got the sequel.
There's no sequel to Elite Beef agents.
Well you know what I mean like.
And Innis went and got morally bankrupt on Lips.
Oh god you were banging on about that yesterday.
I'm super butt hurt about that game.
I'm super butt hurt about Lips.
We went to a micro plan and we were picking out some games and shit and Liam sees that
there's seven copies of Lips for the 360 and he goes what the fuck this killed the company.
There's something about the phrase I'm super butt hurt about Lips.
I am.
I am.
I even played through Demon's Score the Square Enix in his game because it was a rhythm game
and it was actually fun.
Wasn't that the one with the super abusive like payment system?
No it was just blood mask.
Blood mask or something.
I don't know but it was just by the levels.
You want to buy levels?
You want to buy levels.
It was fine.
The game was totally fine.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Tomodachi collection.
Glad they're localizing it.
Shame this happened but whatever.
They should be more college students in the future.
The iceberg from the get go.
There you go.
I have a feeling most of these problems happen because the people making the game don't know
that icebergs exist.
Yeah.
Well they don't exist in this country but once you leave international waters.
Icebergs all over this motherfucker.
This is a really good analogy.
This works really well.
Damn it man.
Come on.
You know.
And like nobody working on the game or probably very few people working on the game were
gay or anything so that didn't even come into it.
You know they were just like yeah I'll make this and everyone playing it was like yeah
this is it.
Yeah.
This is game.
And again it's unfortunate.
These aren't social commentary they say.
That's the most bullshit answer though.
These are the most accurate social commentary ever.
They're more accurate than Xbox avatars.
They're more accurate than home avatars.
They're more accurate than photographs of yourself.
Sometimes they are.
Yeah they are.
Exactly.
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What about for people like me who just don't want a big old beard?
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It's a classic little box.
They got graphic designers working there for sure.
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So we backed down from nature because it's later time.
There was a big beam.
That squirrel looked mean.
It was rough.
The kids were coming outside after school.
We needed to get away from them.
They're also telling us to leave them.
Also I'm going to be willing to throw myself under the bus because there's a special moment
here that happened while the microphone wasn't recording.
We were moving around.
I wanted to talk to Liam more about Soul Sacrifice Delta.
This is bad.
This is bad.
And I basically just got halfway through just blurting out Vita because I thought his
name was Vita.
Yeah, he said, you have to make Vita.
Mmm.
They got life through him.
We got Matt.
We got William.
We got Pat.
We got our great friend Vita.
Oh, shit.
Fuck.
It's like the fly.
Yeah.
What?
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Oh, shit.
I cut you off.
You're going for a third.
Oh, no.
I was going to say, if you didn't hear the last one because of the sound of nature.
Oh, yeah.
There it is again.
Yes.
And then you went for it and I was like, oh.
All those natural helicopters that were flying by.
No, no.
The first person listening to this outside at a picnic.
Ah.
That's weird.
I don't know why I just said that like Yogi Bear.
A picnic.
A picnic.
That's the only way to say it.
The first letter is coming to us from Kyle.
Yo, Kyle.
What happened to your focus?
Fuck.
I should have thought of that.
Kyle's question is A-U-R-A-A-U-R-A, aura, aura.
Yeah.
I heard you guys using the term aura, aura.
Like my magical spirit energy, my aura.
Why do you keep saying that?
It's a JoJo's Bizarre Adventure thing, man.
It gets you pumped up for fights.
And it's not spelled that way.
No.
It's literally just like a sound effect that's being yelled by a character.
It's O-R-A.
Yes.
It's like karate men go like, and hey, I was right.
Yeah.
It's what badasses shout out when they want to go away.
When they need to punch good.
Ah, come on.
Yeah.
Just he says it a lot.
He says it the most.
We're not talking about Lucario up in here.
No.
Not yet.
Not ever.
We have to eventually fucking Lucario elephant in the room.
Zarik ZX says, hey, super best crew, love your shit.
I also love my shit.
Fighting game, do you think, has the best story mode?
Story mode?
Can Mortal Kombat.
Soul Calibur 2, Edgemaster.
Mortal Kombat.
Mortal Kombat.
Weapon Master.
Edgemaster's the guy.
Mortal Kombat undoubtedly has the best presentation and everything, but I think Weapon Master's
more fun.
He says story.
It's the story mode.
It's the story mode.
Barely.
It's great gameplay-wise.
Sorry.
Did they say story specifically?
Just story?
What setup do you think is the best?
I prefer this huge Weapon Master.
Tons of gimmick fights like Weapon Master.
It would be that with combination of an actual story threaded in there with cutscenes.
I didn't...
I prefer the gameplay setup than the cutscenes.
The cutscenes were really nice.
Yeah, but imagine if you had both.
Of course, both would be the best.
Yeah, that's what I mean.
I'd prefer it if that was possible.
If anyone wants a really generic anime story, BlazBlue's got a hell of a story mode.
That's got a really intense story mode.
Yeah, absolutely does.
But I think Mortal Kombat does the best job of just streaming together events and then
you just take control of it.
What about it?
Well, I think Justice Equal is up.
Same thing.
But then you have to look at Dude's taking Superman builds.
Well, that's it.
And if you're one of the seven guys who likes DC a lot, then you'll enjoy Injustice.
Stop making fun of DC, Liam.
No, you don't even like comics.
You're right.
I hate them.
So make fun of DC, Pat.
Yeah, DC sucks.
Green Lantern's the stupidest motherfucker that ever existed.
Which one?
All of them.
Any of them that make a fist with a ring.
Because if you're talking Guy Gardner, then I don't know.
No, no.
You're talking Green Lantern.
John Stuart.
I don't know.
Wait, John Stuart was Green Lantern?
Yeah.
John Stuart was Green Lantern.
He's the best one.
Big black guy.
I'm thinking of the Daily Show.
But no, any Green Lantern that uses a fist to attack people is the dumbest motherfucker
in the world.
And I distinctly remember somebody sending me a comic that had Batman talking all sorts
of shit about Green Lantern.
Yeah.
And I was like, oh, vindication on Green Lantern.
The problem is because Hal was like a very...
Idiot.
He wasn't creative enough.
Yeah.
So he'd come up with hammers and tools, because that's the kind of person he was.
That was his job.
How human are you, Hal?
You know?
And then everyone else said that has different backgrounds.
If you're an artist, you'll come up with Green Lagans.
Yeah.
Sure.
It's just like, oh my god.
That's why Batman was like, you're such a tool.
I was fucking...
Also, their weakness is the color yellow.
I have this ring of ultimate power that can do and make anything.
I'm going to punch you with a big green energy fist.
I just can't handle it.
I can't.
It's fine.
It's fine.
DC sucks.
Marvel also sucks.
Dude.
What about Image?
Image is the worst.
The red rings, the rage rings, the death rings.
Aw.
Come on.
That shit was cool.
No, that...
All right, yeah.
Mega is also terrible.
Anyways.
I'm not defending that.
JoJo too.
It's just awful.
No, JoJo's JoJo transcends.
Oh, so you mean things have good things and bad things?
Pat, why even like mincewares?
Don't even acknowledge what he's saying.
Entertainment is garbage.
Entertainment.
You're on a piece of shit.
If you like things, then that's terrible.
Mina is fucking garbage.
Aw.
Why do we got to have it?
Because we're bored, Matt.
Because we're bored.
Nick wants to know, have you guys ever played a game where the background distracts you from the gameplay?
For example, Project Divo's backgrounds distract the shit out of me.
I could believe that.
There's a game coming out that has that going on a lot that I think Matt's thinking the same one time.
I was, but we'll remain mama on that.
You're not talking about that one?
Yeah, but I was going to say, a lot of anime fighters, like BlazBlue, has rated the backgrounds are.
Sometimes I find them a little too busy.
The fucking volcano red stage from Vanilla Street Fighter 4.
Yo, you're banned that shit.
You're banned that shit.
It is, I know.
He's banned already.
I can't think of any of the jumps to mine where it was like the background, like other than like just old garbage NES games where like the background and the foreground are literally indistinguishable.
KOF 12 had some rough backgrounds.
Yeah, but they weren't too busy.
There were like less, there were no, there were nothing.
13, they started spacing it out a bit.
Yeah, 13 stages to fight.
They did recycle some backgrounds from one to the other.
That's probably the most standard example.
Darkstalkers, I think Darkstalkers probably has a couple stages where it was a little too much.
I want to say that Vanguard Princess had some shit ones, but I can't remember if they were fine or if they were distracted.
Some of them, but the ones were, someone was playing on.
Yeah, they were a little too busy, but yeah.
Yeah.
But that's what I mean, like anime fighters in general.
Man, as long as the background is the background, I'm fine.
So like if you can't tell if the background is the foreground or not, just like...
No, I don't mind when there's foreground layers, but don't fuck it up.
Don't be stupid and put something giant blocking your view.
Put something giant in my view.
And that's the other thing too, is like, how do you guys feel?
I'm going to like just kind of twist this question a bit, but how do you feel about games that put special filters for when the camera goes into the wall?
You know what I'm talking about?
Games where like instead of the wall turning transparent, you see like a cross-hatching filter so that you're seeing through the wall.
No, that's fine.
I think it's always better to see through it straight out.
Just make the wall transparent? I think it's always better.
I have more.
Or make the camera just stop at the wall and then it doesn't go through.
Ideally you never have these problems and you design your game better.
Your level design doesn't have to fight that.
Look through the walls.
I feel I have no strong emotions one way or the other.
Vote for this man.
Don wants to know, well hey, to make a long story short, I listened to the Gurren Lagann soundtrack before I watched it.
That's weird.
And I thought the soundtrack was great, but then I felt the music was misused because stuff that I imagined for big moments was misplaced and not used during the moments of extreme pain.
But purposefully that's kind of your fault.
Yep.
So don't do that man.
Music spoilers are a thing.
Yeah, they are.
I did that for Kill or Kill, but I thought it was great.
Because the soundtrack came out halfway through the series and I bought it immediately.
Okay, so I did that for Tron Legacy.
And I enjoyed it, but then again I knew Tron Legacy wasn't going to turn the world upside down.
So I was fine.
So get it off your fucking computer.
But if you think it...
It's been willing for over seven years.
One part of the movie.
My bed is on fire.
It did.
Not just the world.
His butthole.
My bed is on fire.
No what?
I don't know.
Get me off this bed.
No.
It's on fire now.
You're sitting on it.
No.
Sit on it more.
Let me get out of your bed.
No.
Allow me to please leave your bed.
Anyway.
We really went inside on this one.
Don't listen to the soundtrack beforehand if you care about the thing you're going to watch.
Because that's inevitably going to happen.
Especially if it's a score or a soundtrack that was made specifically for that thing.
Right?
You could say listen to the albums the Pillows put out for Fuli Kuli.
Because they're albums.
And they were just used for the thing.
But if...
All that shit was made for her.
If you're listening to a score, then it's probably a bad idea.
You might find a track called Death of Blank.
Don't do that.
Imagine if you listen to the Berserk anime soundtrack beforehand.
And then when you watch the show, you're like,
Oh, this awesome opening theme they put on the opening.
I thought that was like going to be the love ballad.
Oh, fuck this show.
Theme of love from Berserk.
Oh god.
The theme of death.
The theme of turn off your computer.
Walk away.
Turn off your life.
I just got the image of somebody looking down the Berserk soundtrack.
And it's just this track listing that is just the theme of Ray Pours.
And you don't know anything about Berserk.
Oh.
Oh, that's an inside show.
Oh, that's true.
Oh, Jesus.
Jack says,
Dears libatsu.
So, Jack.
What do you want in a collector's edition?
And is there one thing that would make you automatically get one?
Artbook.
Artbook?
Artbook helps.
Actual to scale, like, size artbook.
There's those ones that are more horizontal.
The mini books, fuck no.
I don't want that.
Fuck your mini books.
Stop it.
Don't skimp.
I won't even bother.
I will not give you the time of day.
I always really appreciate a full soundtrack.
And I hate when they skimp and they give you half the soundtrack or something like that.
That happened with Bravely Default.
That happens with almost all Atlas games.
Persona 4 got me super mad.
Yeah, but they gave you disc one of the soundtrack.
But Liam, to be fair, that wasn't the collector's edition.
No, I know.
That's just the regular game just also gave you a soundtrack.
I'm just saying, I got butt hurt about that.
But they gave you a free disc.
I always feel like I really want the soundtrack until I get it.
And then I'm like, well, I'm just going to download it.
And I'd rather get an artbook in that case.
Well, I'm not saying I wouldn't rather an artbook.
Because Matt already said artbook.
I'm not just going to say artbook again.
And if you can make a not shitty quality figure.
For me, it's some dumb Africa pendant.
I was just going to say that.
I was going to say that too.
I was like, I need the country where this game takes place.
And I need it in necklace four.
Or continent, Matt.
Or continent.
I want brass nuts.
Just give me a pair of brass nuts.
It's kind of illegal in every country.
No.
Who fucking pulled out mafia 2?
2K with mafia 2.
Fucking sending all the chernos.
No, I know.
They sent all the chernos brass nuts only to get a bunch of letters back.
Like, dude, you just sent us items that break the law for me to just have it.
Yeah.
Fucking...
But then again, if there's like a Ninja Turtle game, like throw some nunchucks in there.
It's fine.
Not if you're in England.
Not in the UK.
UK says no fun allowed.
No nunchucks.
That previously is a bad apple.
It's hard to define what like useless shit is with limited editions.
But like with Dead Space 2, where they give you a quote unquote limited edition art lithograph.
Which is just a goddamn postcard with a piece of art that should just be in an art book.
Don't do that.
Also pencil boards.
I'm not a huge fan of pencil boards.
Exactly.
Also running it back to Dead Space 2, that mini plasma cutter, like don't even bother.
Make something better.
Well, honestly, like I've gotten really bummed out by collector's editions.
Like I used to buy them all the time.
Yeah.
Because I wanted the fancy box.
Yeah, but no...
That was the primary thing.
I wanted the fancy box.
Are you for a chainsaw controller?
Oh, fuck that piece of shit.
That one.
And now it's just like the only way I'm going to get them is if they're like this bullshit
thing that we're holding ransom, like DLC-wise that you're really one, we're not going to
release for a year.
You have the Dark Souls 2 collector's edition.
You have the Big Go statue.
Yeah, that Big Go statue is pretty cool actually.
And I also wanted to pay them a bunch of money.
Exactly.
If you're going to have a figure, you don't have those...
Remember those shitty fucking Street Fighter IV figures?
That's an evil fight as well.
I said if you're going to go for it, that's not a good figure.
Make a good one.
A Dark Souls 2 figure is really good.
It's super huge.
A J-Worst.
A J-Worst.
A J-Worst.
It has a great figure with it actually.
Sure.
The worst figure I've ever seen was when I went to like Games on or whatever when they
were still alive.
And you walked in and you saw...
Game Buzz.
Game Buzz, of course.
Yeah, because Zone still lives.
Zone still lives on forever in all our hearts.
But I saw that Big Dumb Max Payne 3 statue where they knew they didn't want the old
balding Max Payne, so they put the modern Max Payne that's in the game for like one level
and he's standing still with his arms at his sides.
He might as well have been in a T-pose.
He might as well have been in a T-pose.
Here's our guy whose main deal is jumping and shooting.
Oh, just having to be a casual and cool guy to stand in there.
Like a little bit more interesting to see him like just on a bar stool miserable.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Exactly.
Lots of useless shit in Loot Editions and over this last generation like they ran the
Gambit.
Here's a giant halo face.
I mean Master Chief helmet.
Big Master Chief helmet.
That I always see in stores to this day.
I think the most...
Well, that was the first question everyone had.
Did I wear it on my head?
No.
No.
I think the most hilarious one was you went from Modern Warfare 2 that had the Night
Vision goggles which made sense and it was kind of cool and then you went to, was the
Black Ops 1 or Black Ops 2?
RC car.
There was a fucking RC car bomb on it.
Yeah.
It's just a stupid shit RC car.
Wasn't there one with an RC plane?
That was the most recent one.
I think it was a helicopter.
Was it Battlefield?
I can't remember.
No.
It was Call of Duty.
Call of Duty has these really elaborate functions.
Yeah.
It's like a plane.
Like what?
It's just crazy.
It's video games though.
Yeah.
I think that was Modern Warfare 3.
It was.
Those are great.
I like those ones.
What are we going to get with Advanced Warfare?
Advanced Warfare?
Jump boots.
Hopefully jump boots.
Yeah.
Real working jump boots.
No.
You know what you're going to get?
You're going to get baby jump boots that sit on your wall.
But you can put them on your kid.
Oh.
You can make your kid wear them.
You can make your cat wear them.
Grown up on Call of Duty early.
Get them early.
Get them early.
Yeah.
How is it getting kids?
They are.
They are actually.
That's sad.
That's really fucked up.
When you got to Kevin Spacey.
You ever see that?
Yeah.
You ever see that image macro about Intendent Audience and the real audience and it's got
Pokemon Call of Duty.
Yeah.
And the picture for Pokemon is us.
Yeah.
Intendent Audience Children.
Real Audience Us.
It's depressing that that's actually true.
Call of Duty.
Intendent Audience is us.
Real Audience Children.
Inflatable Babies.
Uh.
Giovanni.
Giovanni.
Wants to know how awkward was that moment where Woolly had to be.
That moment where Woolly had to explain to Pat and Liam what an Octoroon was.
Do you guys know what an Octoroon was?
It wasn't.
No.
It caught up with us as soon as part one went up.
Now you do.
Yeah.
And I was like, is that?
What that?
Oh.
No.
Because we were totally baffled.
Not awkward at all.
Do you know what an Octoroon is?
Yeah.
Absolutely.
But absence of knowledge doesn't equate.
Weight and cover your ass is racist.
Whatever.
Well, just the only thing I'm going to say is that those episodes were recorded a long
time ago and there's a bunch of them.
So the knowledge of that is not going to catch up.
It's not going to go down for a long time.
It's going to take a while.
No, it's fine.
I think in part seven or something we mentioned that's the guy and we still don't know what
the fuck it is.
Yeah.
Like whatever we didn't know.
I thought it was like an oil tycoon.
I thought it was a fake word.
Like Jiggy Snipes.
Yeah.
Exactly.
Don't be a dirty Jiggy Snipes.
Please tell me that's from Banjo-Kazooie.
It's not from Banjo-Kazooie.
I mean it.
But it sounded real.
It was a fake Pokemon.
Oh.
It sounds exceptionally racist.
It sounds really nervous.
No, it actually did sound like a Mario enemy.
Like I can see it being in your second book, the Jiggy Snipes.
I'm like, yeah, that's a thing.
Hang on to that one.
Before Retro steals it for some country.
Did you write that question?
I did not.
That was from Giovanni.
I didn't even know it came up in your things.
No, it's in Barclay Shub and Jam Garden.
Within the first few minutes.
Like I think in the opening text crawl, you meet LeBron James's Octaroon son.
Okay.
And we both go, I don't know what the fuck that is.
How's that?
Well, now you know.
That's fine.
Because there's the one drop rule.
Yeah, I remember.
You told me about that in college.
There you go.
And so until episode seven of Barclay, we'll continue to have our one drop rule applied.
Wait, what?
What?
What does that mean?
Well, we don't know until now.
There's already seven episodes done.
I'm not sure what the implication is.
I think Liam's lost.
No, no, no.
No.
The one drop rule, right?
You're allowed to say something terrible once.
And then after that.
That's not the one drop rule.
That's not the one drop rule.
Okay.
Well, that's my one drop rule.
It's the one drop rule.
Oh, God.
Oh, my God.
What's the one drop rule?
The one drop rule.
Okay.
The one drop rule says that if you're 99% white, but you have one drop of black blood
in there that you're black.
That's the one drop rule.
You're one of us, buddy.
Welcome to the dark side.
One drop and it's all ruined.
Wow.
I never knew that.
Only the purest pure.
Well, that's my one drop rule.
Yeah.
God damn.
What a backwards fucking...
You see what I was coming for?
I do.
I can totally see that.
We said something bad.
You talk about the one drop rule.
Oh, my God.
I'm like, oh, you're allowed to name drop something bad once.
Oh, God.
Oh, gosh.
Oh, that's funny.
That's funny.
No, racism is hilarious.
We're talking about the hilarity of racism.
That's funny.
That's not what I'm saying either.
No.
Like, twisting that either.
No, no, no.
It's a funny twist, but I just think racism's funnier.
It's always funnier.
It's totally amused.
It's always funny.
It's always relevant.
It's funny in this context.
Yeah.
It's great.
All three-fifths of me are laughing.
Anyway.
Please tell me.
I don't have to explain that to you, Liam.
I know.
Okay.
You got it.
All right.
All right.
All right.
You didn't know what that was.
When you were older than me, the one drop rule.
I knew because he told me.
You were older than me at that point.
It's not information that you had.
It was given to you.
Yeah.
I think it would be more worrying if I knew.
It's not like my dad sat me down one day and explained to me, like, no.
So that means my grandkids.
Yeah.
Oh, God.
This is about video games.
Matthew wants to know.
Yes, I do.
Why do we have so many guys named Matthew calling it?
I don't know because it's the best name.
It's the fucking first book of the New Testament.
Yeah.
I'll do it.
That'll be the name.
That's why there's so many Jimmy John's.
Yeah.
That's the zero book.
If you could choose any real species to gain sentience, what would you choose?
A real species?
They would immediately separate from human beings and carve out their own empires and
technologies.
For the purposes of this question, they will not start as hostile to humans.
I know this guy.
Or steal anyone's land.
I know this guy.
I saw him write down that he sent you this question, and there's a second part of the
question where he's a total jackass.
Yeah.
What do you say?
What do you say?
He said, Nuzlocke sucks.
Fuck you, Tara.
Oh, you know this guy.
Yeah, I know this guy.
Oh, Tara Magus.
He's a fucking asshole.
So, yeah, if you don't have to worry about an army of hippos marching across the countryside,
devour your farmers.
Yeah.
At first.
So at first they'll be nice.
What species should gain sentience?
Beaver.
It's hilarious.
No, fuck that.
Well, why didn't you say the fucking platypus then?
No, because platypus have poison shit all over it.
Beavers cause trouble?
Yeah.
Beavers cause trouble now.
I know.
But they'd be peaceful.
Yeah, see, peaceful beavers.
We can build stuff together.
Yeah, but they're peaceful.
But we trap beavers in the country because they make dams and they flood our shit.
Yeah, but now they can help us make hydroelectric dams.
That won't work.
No, no, because they're gaining sentience they'll be smarter.
Yeah, but they don't have thumbs.
Well, they have good teeth.
I'm saying beavers.
I want a talking beavers sidekick.
Yeah.
That's the whole thing I want.
You know what?
As far as building a secondary technological empire goes, I feel like ants or bees would
be awesome.
They're bad news.
Okay, no, Willie.
Hold on.
There's an ant on your floor right there.
Like they're not going to start off hostile, but I way rather think it could be possible
that they start off hostile.
Do you want to live in Earth Defense Force?
Is that what you want?
No, definitely not.
But I'm just imagining the technological advancements we could get out of bugs also doing cool shit.
Ant doctors.
Do you see us also being enslaved by our new insect overlords?
Insect overlords.
Seeing as they breed at an incredible rate.
I got to ask, are you constantly rewatching the Simpsons?
No, I just haven't.
Because I recently rewatched the Simpsons and I can't get half of the ones I haven't watched.
That's amazing.
But when I watched it, I watched it hard.
Eyeballs open.
I don't know.
How about, okay, well then if not that, then how about like something that can fly that's
big enough to carry us?
I would pick something cool.
That would pick you up off the ground and dump you in the ocean?
Well, if you could just be friends.
And yelling at you about your beaver pics.
Yeah, so it's fair enough.
I would pick something ultra innocuous and useless like the sea cucumber or starfish.
Because humans can't even fucking work together as far as going with other countries and stuff.
So having another species involved entirely, it wouldn't work.
But dude, starfish can regenerate their life.
They can regenerate their limbs.
They're invincible.
But they're tiny.
But why do you keep going to the enemy scenario?
Dude, but they're tiny.
They would not be enemies of each other.
At first, I have no faith in humans with a brand new technological species on the planet.
So I just want my talking beaver sidekick and then I can fight dumb beavers and they're
easy to beat because they're tiny and useless.
And now they're smart.
Yeah, but at least I can just grab them by the tail and go flat, flat, flat.
Are there any like giant ass birds that can carry ostrich?
Ostriches.
Ostriches.
They can't fucking fly though.
Yeah, then you can have your joust fantasies.
Don't you think they might find that dishonorable to put a human on them?
Yeah, they wouldn't be too crazy about it.
I would love to see red pandas try to form their own society and then laugh as they fail.
Yeah.
Because they're just bumbling morons.
But it'd be cute.
But it'd be cute as shit.
You can just televise that and when anyone would feel depressed, just turn on the TV
and look at like red pandas sitcoms.
It's itty bitty dictatorship.
Yeah, we're tuning in to day four of the formation of the red panda diet.
They're all falling all over each other in an attempt to tally the votes.
There's just one red panda standing in front of a tank.
Hey, most entertaining.
No, that's why are pandas bad at everything?
Pandas in general?
Yeah, including the sex.
They're terrible at everything.
For regular big pandas, it's just they have no sex drive.
But why?
Because they were too busy doing fat and happy.
Okay.
Some humans have no sex drive.
I guess.
But it's like, it's like pandas.
There is has no sex drive whatsoever.
Yeah, that was great.
Anyway, that's exactly what I thought.
Yeah, that's cool.
Josiah wants to know what's your favorite MGS Kodak?
Like sound or?
No.
No, Kodak Conversation.
Conversation.
It's the one in MGS 2 in the tanker where you rub up against the picture of the lady
and you call Otacon and Snake is clearly jerking off.
I love those ones.
Those are the best.
Clearly jerking off and Otacon's like, please stop calling me.
Get Godzilla, Snakey.
I'm sorry.
I was going to say it because even when it happened, I thought it was so cute that they're
trying to do a cross promotion with the movie that was also coming out.
That Shinokawa also did concept art for.
So I think that it's such a shill, but also if you didn't know, if you didn't know that
research at all, you wouldn't have known.
I love it when paramedics are just like, hey, Snake, did you know that in 50 years, it'll
be Godzilla's 50th birthday?
Snake's like, what the fuck are you?
Yeah.
What's a Godzilla?
I guess anything would be its 50th birthday in 50 years.
You twit.
It is really charming.
My favorite ones are from MGS4, actually.
And they're all the like, oh, because this is a Blu-ray disc.
Or like, you can't unplug it.
No swapping here.
Or like, you can't fight Mantis like you did before.
Get it together, Otacon.
Did you try changing your controller for it?
Totally.
Those are great.
Those are great.
Also, all the ones from the end of MGS2.
The ones I didn't like.
Yeah, sure.
Yeah.
Yeah, that's a toughie.
Probably going to go with...
Crab battle.
Crab battle.
Oh god, I changed mine all after you.
As you remembered.
I think probably just Ninja.
Ninja shit.
Deep throat.
Deep throat.
That shit was cool.
I really enjoyed that.
I want to change mine to the Snake paramedic codec conversations
revolving around the glowing mushroom.
That snake thinks recharges his batteries.
Yeah.
And the bar shows it recharging the batteries,
but it doesn't actually recharge the batteries.
Or patrols.
And paramedic is just like, yeah, just...
If I eat these mushrooms, will my batteries get better?
She's like, what?
No, that's stupid.
You're stupid.
Also like, you can't eat the horse.
That is literally the guy's favorite.
He said here, the electric bus.
Because that's a really good one.
The other really good one is when you get into a box and you call Sigan,
and then he's like, hey, Snake, what the hell are you doing?
And he's like, I feel like I need to be in the box.
Yeah, safe in this box.
You want to come in the box with me?
He's like, I don't want to be in your creepy box religion.
Oh, and Sigan's nightmare about a giant robot made out of shit.
Yeah.
You ever get that one?
I don't remember that one.
After Snake's nightmare, you can call Sigan,
and he tells you a nightmare about him fighting a robot made entirely out of shit,
and everything it touches turns into shit.
That's a good one.
Why does that sound exactly like Pandora?
I really like the one in MGS1 where everyone chastises you for having a mono TV,
where you're fighting the hindie and they're like, use the stereo on your TV to find the hindie.
And if you have the audio setting the mono or something,
then they're like, a mono TV in this day and age.
Geez.
You can look just Google mono TV Metal Gear Solid and you'll find it.
I'm fucking having a really hard time.
I'm scrubbing my brain for it.
Well, I'm not really MGS.
All of the Kodak conversations in Brawl.
Yeah, we're great.
Yeah, we're great too.
Yeah, we're great too.
Yeah, we're great too.
So Metal Gear fan you are.
No, I just...
Yeah.
I'm trying to pick one out.
I'm having a really rough time.
I don't know.
Not a good time.
And you picked these questions.
We forgot about this one.
Yeah, I guess you forget about this one.
Maybe one of us said the one he was going to say and he was playing cool.
He's probably going to be a cool person.
We got one from Algomon.
Hey, Budman.
Just call him Budman.
Algernon.
Oh, it's the flower thing.
Is it?
Yeah, it's the flower of Algernon and whatever that is.
Hey, Budman.
It's a poem?
I don't know.
Sure.
I'm not well read.
So he says, I'm getting really worried that my movie critiquing skills are diminishing.
I'm a film student and I love presentation and storytelling most.
Does he say if he's 24?
He does not.
Because yes, they are diminishing.
He says that.
They're not all skills.
They're all skills.
Now, I usually have no faith in comic book movies and I go in with a massive scoop of salt.
So when one impresses me, I really enjoy it.
Amazing Spider-Man 2 had a lot of inaccuracies, but the movie was well done in my opinion
and I truly didn't care.
I didn't expect to care.
It wasn't a forgettable movie.
It had great music, storytelling, pacing, and everything.
In my eyes, it was.
Now, the comparison is there's another movie, 12 Years a Slave.
I hated it.
I hated how it was rushed and it felt like horror porn and so on and so forth.
He just didn't like the movie.
Critics were all over that shit.
And Rotten Tomatoes says Amazing Spider-Man 2, 50%, 12 Years a Slave, 97.
What the hell is going on here?
I'm 28 years old.
Is it just me or am I mucking things up?
Do I suddenly have terrible taste?
No, it just means you're going to be that reviewer.
You'll be the outside guy.
You'll be that guy.
And that's not bad.
We love the outside guys so much.
Also, you have to remember that when you see Rotten Tomatoes thing and 12 Years a Slave,
which is a movie that critics loved, critics love loving those types of movies that are
made to get praised, to get awards.
Oscar Bay.
Oscar Bay.
And they make them and the filmmakers have the best intentions.
When Spider-Man gets made, it's like let's make a fun, entertaining movie that people
like.
Great for the kids.
That's great for the kids.
If that's what your mood is in, it's not necessarily your criticisms.
It's like your mind is just like, I want to be entertained by a thing.
And if you don't like anything that's subject material like that, like 12 Years a Slave or
things where there's like, what's the Jesus Christ movie with?
Passion on the Christ.
Passion on the Christ.
There's also an example.
It's just one of those things where it's like you're just not into that particular thing.
Yeah.
I mean, the same thing happens in video games too where Call of Duty every year met a score
85 or higher.
And it's like what?
Fucking critics.
Like it's your opinion and that's cool.
And if you're a good enough writer, people will want to hear your opinion.
Especially if you're nuts.
Especially if you're nuts.
If you're nuts and you can justify it.
Because people don't want to read.
Like if you're looking for reviews for Spider-Man or Godzilla, people don't want to read the
review of someone that doesn't like those types of movies.
Maybe the people that like, I just want to confirm I want to hate this thing.
Yeah.
And all my reviewer that I like or I like hates like comic book, big tentpole things or whatever.
So like, you know, you're just that guy that like, yeah, like likes a fun, you like something.
If you find yourself turning into Tim Rogers, embrace it.
Just turn into Tim Rogers.
No, yeah, totally.
It's fine.
But no, that's, that's cool.
Absolutely.
Like, like what you like.
And that's, you know, enjoy your opinion.
Try not to think too like poorly of yourself because of it.
Well, more importantly, it's not like you have a say in the matter.
You're going to continue not liking what you don't like.
Also, that being said, if you liked Man of Steel, fuck you.
You're wrong.
I have that problem in the back.
Like everyone's butts just started healing and you come and you fucking raise that again.
Pull the carpet under the ass.
No, no, I'm serious.
Fuck you.
Man, man.
I didn't see Man of Steel, but I saw one scene out of Man of Steel.
No, wait.
Don't see Man of Steel.
Enough.
No, it's not.
I saw the fucking tornado scene.
Do nothing.
That's the one.
That's the one.
Nothing anyone says will ever fucking justify a full watch of that movie to me.
One of Miley's favorite scenes is right at the end where he's got, what's his name again?
Superman?
No, Zod.
Zod.
He's got Zod in a neck hold and he's going to break his neck.
And Zod is shooting eye lasers across a building.
And he's going slowly across it.
Towards a family.
Towards an American, like, stare at people, nuclear family.
Slowly.
And then he just snaps his neck at the last second.
This is the most dumb thing ever.
No, you don't have to spoil their bad things.
This was something that the Superman fans were open arms about.
Like, I can't explain.
Yeah, and then he's like, I saved the horribly destroyed city.
That I destroyed!
Like, the overwhelmingly obvious, like, 9-11 imagery.
Because fuck it.
Bad things will live forever.
So, here's the thing.
The fact that the way you describe that, we have to come up with a scenario as to why Superman should kill someone.
You already failed everything about this character.
Because he can do anything.
There's almost no situation you can think of.
Because why doesn't he just push Zod away?
What he could have done, like, there's a million things he could have done.
I don't like Superman at all, but even I know the point of Superman is that he's Superman!
Well, you know, like, the best fight in the movie, it didn't even have them involved.
It was just the other, the girl and the fucking cool big guy.
Yep, that's saying something.
Anyway, Jay wants to know, or rather, Jay wants to establish,
My friend and I have been having a massive MGS nerd argument.
Oh, you've come to the right place.
And Jay called the shit lords, that's not nice.
He's been debating color or not.
Revengeance is canon.
Revengeance is super canon.
Of course we know what all is, but I need to clarify to my friend
that Raiden picking up and throwing a Metal Gear ray is totally canon.
It's super canon.
And I privately replied and said, dude, nothing indicated that it isn't,
and Raiden previously stopped a fucking cruise liner.
With his back!
Which is way heavier than a ray.
And then he said, yeah, that's cool.
Say it on the podcast so that you can really pick my friend.
So Jay...
Revengeance is super canon.
Your friend is ridiculous and stupid if you think it's not.
It's written by guys from fucking KojiCrow.
No where ever.
Does it say that it's not canon, dude?
Why are you just like hated?
Stop it.
Other than his friend is like, I don't know, headless and didn't like look at the thing,
but the thing maybe there's the point of confusion is that,
remember that Revengeance takes place like another five, six years after MGS4?
I think it takes place in 2018.
And MGS4 is taking place right now.
Well, there's a time jump there that maybe in the game you didn't see or notice or whatever.
I guess to someone that maybe looked at some Metal Gear games and then looked at Revengeance,
like whoa, what the fuck, this looks like a fantasy.
I was gonna say, I have a friend who's a huge Metal Gear fan and he hates that Ryzing is canon.
Why?
I hate him.
Why when it doesn't do anything with the main story at all?
He just thinks it's goofy, like oh the eyeballs in that room and stuff and like fighting for brains.
Can I say something to all, because I saw that complain a lot.
It's like all this cyborg shit is goofy.
It's like, go back and actually play through all the Metal Gear games.
Actually, think about what there's to really be.
Right, look at the platform you're standing on as you're speaking down.
Put all of the Metal Gear games on a wall, throw a dart, guess what?
You're gonna hit something that's probably just as if not dumber than Revengeance.
Easily.
Like remember, just an MGS4 using robots.
There's a fucking, there's two robots made out of arms that dress up like a snatcher in a coat
and a nice hat and stalk Snake through a city.
Like for fuck's sake.
Oh my god, I forgot what you mean.
Let's all remember the animated gif of Liquid Ocelot on the boat with his hands as little guns.
I love that, I love that.
Shut up, I love it.
I know, it's beautiful.
No, I love it too, but it's the Dome Slayer there.
Or just the fucking shots of Slak Jon Solidus getting carted around in the back of a van.
Yeah.
Come on.
Yeah.
Oh, that reminds me.
I love the Kodak conversations with Sunny.
With Sunny in the Revengeance event.
They're good, they're good.
Because they give you tons of plots.
Those are probably my favorite.
Otacon became a total player after MGS4.
Like a really soulless, like dead inside player.
Yeah, Otacon is always meant to be.
Yeah.
But yeah, yeah, you're friends with a fucking idiot.
That's all we got there.
What's coming up on the channel, guys?
We got Mads Godzilla thing.
Yeah, that's going to be happening all week.
And remember, along with other videos as well.
People are always confused about the Strider week, but like, yeah, we still got all the other playthroughs going on.
Which are Nuzlocke, Barclay, and RE4.
Barclay and some of the little game called the other day before.
They've heard of it.
So yeah, basically chances are if we're doing a week of something, it's happening second
period to a normal week.
There you go.
Nothing's changing, we're just adding more.
No, you guys want more?
Here's more.
I'm giving it to you.
Here's more.
Oh wait, it's splashing all over your face because your mouth's full tough.
Take more, eat more.
Where are they?
That was graphic.
I was holding a spoon in my hand.
When's Wolf Among Us, though?
When's Walking Dead?
Yeah, when the fuck's the next episode, man?
I don't know.
Shit, get it together.
Shut up.
Get out of my fucking face with that.
What's Game of Thrones?
What's Game of Thrones?
What do you guys put on the watch this week?
I'm just going to say that.
We talked about it a bit before and I won't go into spoilers because people are yelling
at me.
But yesterday's Game of Thrones episode was super fucking sick.
It was great.
I was getting a little bored with the last two.
It was great.
Nothing was really happening.
Did you guys spoil it on Facebook again?
No, I did not.
Can you not do that anymore?
Well, how about you catch up?
No.
Be good.
No.
Oh, okay.
Come on.
That's a tiny bit of courtesy to just not broadcast it.
Anyway, I think Woolly over exaggerated what I wrote on my Facebook wall.
Yeah, probably.
You made it worse.
I totally did it because it was the night the thing happened.
It was the thing.
It was the actual thing.
The words that I said could have been interpreted in many different ways.
And if you chose to interpret them in that way, then that is your deal.
I'm just joking.
I don't actually mind.
Stallworth Defense Boss.
Anyway, no, it was a great episode and it was just like an acting episode and I really
hope it keeps up because the last kind of two are like, eh, nothing really happened.
It returned.
I said there's something that popped up was a scene where two characters are talking
in the Iron Throne Room and I was like, God, I miss these scenes.
Yeah, that happened all the time in the first season.
And then they got rid of them for a while and now one of them came back and was like,
fuck, I love these just scheming in the Iron Throne Room scenes.
And saying things that, what does that mean?
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
And then he just walks off and you're like, no, explain it.
That was great.
That was great.
I'm going to put We Shall Wake on the watch.
Sure, sure.
Fucking grassroots character action.
Hell yeah.
Let's see where that goes.
I'm totally keeping an eye out.
Not keeping an eye out.
I'm fucking super excited for Dragon Guard 3, May 20th.
Nobody's getting excited with me.
Why doesn't anyone like Dragon Guard 3?
You know who else isn't getting excited with you?
Square Enix?
Yeah, I know.
Oh yeah, Dragon Guard 3's out next week.
If you don't buy it, Square Enix is going to stop making good games.
They've already stopped making good games.
Oh, wait, you're right.
What?
No, I didn't say good.
What?
Dragon Guard 3's coming out next week.
No, I know that, but you're actually saying that they put out a press release and we're
going to stop making good games?
Yeah, they didn't.
But the whole thing is when a vanity game succeeds really hard, they're like, oh, this
was a good idea.
We should do it again.
And when a vanity game fails, it's like, oh.
Bradley Default was in a vanity game.
So Vita is excited for Dragon Guard 3.
Yeah.
Yeah.
This is going to work every time you say something.
Vita really?
Dragon Guard 3's not on Vita.
It's on Vita's tweet when he's talking about you're an idiot.
I love that.
You're completely wrong.
No, it's fine, though.
Oh, wait, it was supposed to be a Vita game.
No, it wasn't.
That wasn't.
Even that's just my speculation.
You told me that it was supposed to be a Vita game.
No, no, no.
Don't listen to Vita.
No.
I said that.
Vita is just lying.
Don't say something off the podcast and then change it now that you're out of the air.
Because I never said that.
You're twisting my words.
What did you say Vita?
What did you say?
Vita, what did you say?
What I said was, back when it looked like a PS2 game, I was like, oh, man.
I bet that was supposed to be a Vita game.
That's what I said.
And then they did the graphical update and it went to PS3 and it's like, oh, well.
It still looks like it probably was a Vita game.
I still think it probably was along with EX troopers.
I hope it has good voice acting.
It does.
Okay.
Like already confirmed.
Good.
What am I watching this week?
I guess I'm watching Soul Sack Delta.
I'm looking forward to that.
I dropped off on the original, but I'll give it a second.
For sure.
A bigger shot.
Transfer improvements.
And I will, nah, I'm actually going to start.
Oh, you're going to start wrong.
Yeah, fuck it.
I don't remember how the game works.
Oh, okay.
It's like that.
And I guess I'll be doing that in the next to my air conditioner, which I love.
Everyone thought I was crazy for installing my AC.
No, you're not.
You're not.
But it's fucking hot.
No, man.
The city is bipolar and you can't control or predict anything.
Hey, control it.
Yeah, no, it was Matt.
Matt thought I was crazy.
I didn't say anything.
But I was running it.
No, I didn't say anything.
I told you and you're like, mmm.
I don't remember saying anything to you.
I remember you posting about somewhere.
I remember being at Pat's and Pat said someone said he was crazy for it.
But I don't remember who.
God, am I just imagining people saying I'm crazy?
I don't know.
I don't know.
But I like AC's.
I'm installing my AC next week.
I love your air conditioning.
Maybe even tonight.
I don't know.
Air conditioning's the best.
You know what I'll say like?
What?
Pizza.
Let's go get some.
Yeah.
Air conditioning the pizza, though.
No.
No, why would you do that?
Listen to Vita.
He's right.
Vita means life.
I got to say goodbye.
I know.
No.
No, no.
You know what I'm doing, right?
You know.
I'm just going to be busy.
I'm not going to be a policeman.
Then I'm just going to touch your nose.
No.
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I'm not a policeman.
I'm not going to be a policeman.
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