Castle Super Beast - SBFC 047: It's All Downhill From Here
Episode Date: July 1, 2014It's a slow news week you guys, but there's still some videogame goodness to be discussed? Legend of Korra busts the Platinum theory game wide open, and the return of a "Plague Asks" segment....
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Uh, it's hot. It's really warm here. And, um, if you hear the sound of fans going, it's
because- That's because they need to be here. It's our life support. We're covered in sweat.
Lean back. I need more fan. I need to add, like, splushing sound effects of, like, the sound of
sweat coming off the couch. Our sweat dripping into the buckets. All these buckets we have here for
our sweat. Give me a new bucket. Yesterday, I was cleaning the parlor, I'd go for it all day,
and we were just, like, roasting it here, and we just went out and bought, like, a little squirt
bottle that has a fan motor attached to it. Or just dousing each other. It got pretty hot, but it
doesn't need anything, unfortunately. Dude, look at it. If you have the time and the engineering
capability, you can turn anything into a cold device. You can do like I did back in the day,
and, uh, I turned a fan that I had in my room into an air conditioner. Right? Very simple tip for you
guys. Here you go. Friendcast tips. If you head on down to your, like, whatever store- There's no
door. I swear to God on this advice. I thought you were gonna say head on down to
www.doctor.com and use the promo code super. That'd be sick. No, no, this was, this was, like,
years ago, back when I was still living on my parents' place. Like, I, I bought, you buy, um,
a copper tubing, right, and you buy some, like, plastic tubing, and you get a cooler. And if you
put your, if your room has a window in it, what you can do is you put a lot of ice and cold water
and frozen shit in the cooler. You have the tube, uh, cook up to the copper tube, that spirals
around the front of your fan, and then goes out your window with another plastic tube. You siphon
the water, and then it'll slowly drip out your window into your garden or whatever's outside,
and the condensation will be on the front of your fan, making the air way colder. That's interesting.
And it works like a homemade air conditioner. Makes sense. Yeah. That's pretty good. You've
got to refill it with frozen shit every year. But hey, like, whatever. But it fucking works.
I just bought an air conditioner. That works too. Yeah, that was the same. If you can afford it,
that's, that's, I bought, I bought the strongest one that my power grid could support. Yeah, no,
when it kicks on sometimes the lights dim, but that's okay. That's all right. It's like prisoners
in jail, but I have been known to put a pool in my kitchen in the past. Yes, I have been known to
put a pool in your kitchen. And you got little frogs in that. Hey, it was a good idea at the time.
Yeah, it really wasn't long term. I can't believe a different Mac Friar is you. No, no,
Mac Friar. It's kind of shocking that it didn't Mac Friar. It was great. So maybe any of our European
fans can confirm this. There's those weird wall-mounted things that go on the top that are almost
noiseless. Yeah. And work with a back unit somewhere. Yeah, my parents have one of those. Yeah.
They're not European though. They are, but they're infiltrating like North America. Like,
they're really not. I read it and I'd rather listen to that than whatever you're saying.
And it's, it's, it's like my parents are from Europe. Yes. They're from technology that was
cold in Europe and brought over here and people here have it now. Okay. So it's like, it's a super
expensive silenacea. It's like $2,000, $5,000. Okay. But it's installed in your place for life.
Yeah. I mean, there's a, there's a, there's a point where you might as well just go with what like
offices have, which is just like an air central, central cool in Europe. Exactly. You know, but
we're in an apartment. So yeah, if the AC doesn't cut it, you can just go take a horrible cold shower,
put ice all over yourself and then go stand in front of your AC until you convulse and just
turn into an Iceman. That'll keep you cool. The Iceman coming. Yeah, that helps too. I like,
I like tucking the fan under the t-shirt. Yeah, that's always fun. It's fun, but you feel disgusting.
Of course. And not that you feel more disgusting. And not because it actually feels disgusting. It
feels great, but you're just like, you know, I can only get away with this because I'm the only
person here. But I will take this weather over the awful winters though, because in winter,
like I said, you're taking damage. Whereas to me, this is just a status ailment. At least in
the winters, I can be in my apartment comfortably. Yes, exactly. It's much easier to warm up than
it is to cool down. So like, think about it, but I just, like, it's probably genetic. You're
probably really cold too, isn't it? It depends. It goes up and down because the heating is right
next to my bed there. But like, more importantly, I'm black. So that's a thing. I don't deal with
cold. Well, I don't do it. Oh, shit. What? No, but the basic deal is like in the summertime,
there are days like today in which no matter what the fuck you do under a normal person's like
means your room or your house is not going to be cool or comfortable. There's not like,
the AC that I have is overpowered for my place and it's still not doing the job, right? Where in
the winter, it's like, you can always burn more things. Unless your insulation sucks,
unless your insulation's garbage. We just keep burning stuff. You gotta fucking plastic over
your windows and shit. Anyway, I just keep this heat off until someone complains.
This wine cast is episode 47. So we're coming up on a year, boys. We're coming up on a year.
I'm not sure if you've heard us, we did over 47 episodes.
Yes, but you asked us to listen to them, did I?
So when we hit 50, we'll be like, yay, 50, and then one episode later we'll be like, whatever,
and then one episode later we'll be like, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Episode 51 compared to that.
Yes, 50 episodes of that. Episode 51 has been confirmed to be the worst episode of this podcast.
That'll be all down below from there. That'll be phoned in literally. We'll do it all on our phones
and just dive in. And I'm like in a fifth location. But why are we pretending that this
episode is somehow on an uphill incline as if we're getting better? Let's not fool anybody.
It's downhill from here right now. People out there, they're hot and they're like, man,
it's bullshit. I hate that it's hot. I want to listen to people, bitch. I guess. We don't feel
like it's uphill. They're sure as hell not gonna feel that way. I promised everybody that it was
going to be terrible. And I feel like I delivered on that promise. Pretty good at that. Oh, guys,
how was the podcast here? I was just pretty good. Aside from that abysmal steam sail, so. Yeah,
you're complaining about it earlier. It's been getting worse every year. It's been getting worse
every year. And there's two reasons for that. One is that. So has it gone from being godlike to
just being normal? Yeah. Well, no, it's gone from being godlike. When you say abysmal, that
first steam sail, that probably just means it's the same. There's two reasons. One is all like
too much stuff has gone on sale too many years. Like there are stuff that was on sale last year
that isn't on sale this year. And part of that is because those games are now cheaper. So the
default sale price. You're never going to sell which which are two for lower than four dollars.
There's no right. Like how much how many years in a row can you discount that even right?
But also new stuff isn't getting discounted as frequently or as much. Yeah. And the other reason
it's it's unique to people like me and I don't know if any of you guys have gone in on it. It's
just like I bought like two things this year. You bought too much in the industry this year.
Yeah, but no one thinks back then that that would be a problem. No, that's not their fault.
It's like no, it's not their fault. It's like I can't buy Witcher one again at two dollars.
Like it's just you know, he wants your steam library hits three, four, five, six hundred games.
I thought you were going to say digits. Sorry that the games industry can't keep up with these deals.
Yeah, I know. There was one thing I just liked about this year's sale and it was the whole like
we're putting you all in buying teams to compete against each other. Buying teams which are clearly
rigged also. Because on the final day they were all neck and neck the entire day and there's no way.
They were within a thousand points of each other the entire day. They were just really
motivated to buy. And what was it? If your team won, you got a free game? If your team won
people on that team had a chance to win a lottery in which some of the games on their
wishlist would be free. Right. So you could potentially only all of them that are on your list
or just some of them? Three of them. Three of them. Everybody's paying money. So you could potentially
save like ten dollars? Potentially. By betting on the right horse. It's so weird. Yes, it's a weird
system. I like the older ones more than this event. I hate all of these. And then like an
anti-game thing. And then Medi-game racism started coming out and like two purplers are
hating on the greeners. Team Pink forever. Yeah, sure. This symbol is a cube. So good. Aside from that
I played Stanley Parable finally. Really? That game is the best walking simulator in that genre.
So like have any of you guys had hands on it? I played like maybe 10 minutes of it. I watched a
couple previews of it. You could beat it in 15 if you go the right way. No, you could beat every
ending in 15. But there's 30 of them. Well, I was like wandering around because I was like,
is this all it is? Yes. It is all that it is. It is all that it is. Similar to Dear Esther and I
believe Gone Home is the same where you do nothing but walk around and look at stuff. This seems to
be by far the most interesting because it is in love with being meta. Like one of the endings
brings you to the game design document. And like this is what's gonna happen. The game will crash
and then the narrator will bug out. Wasn't there an achievement for like not playing for 300 hours?
I don't know about that. But there is an achievement in that game where you go into the
options and it says achievements on or off. Yeah. And if you turn it on, it says achievement get.
You got the achievement. And then when you turn it off, it goes away. It removes itself. And then
you can just flip it on and off and you keep getting and losing it. In the achievement list,
there's an achievement that's like click on door number 105 five times. So you find door 105 and
you do it. And he says, ah, that seems pointless. So the narrator sends you on a 15 minute quest to
click on random objects in the office that are totally pointless. And the whole time he's like,
maybe this will be worth an achievement. Maybe this will be worth it. And then it gets the
points like click on this door a hundred times. And then you finally get it. It's like fantastic.
You did it. You did it. Yeah, yeah. It's completely fantastic. No, I'm looking forward to playing at
some point. I don't know when, but I'm gonna play it. But it's really easy to pick up because it's
like every ending. And like all you do is like in your mental head, I'm gonna go right every
single time. I'm going to ignore instructions every single time. And it just seems to be mocking
everything. Yeah, like absolutely everything. Right. Like when you when you choose all of the
correct choices, you get the most condescending video game ending of all time. It's like it's
like the ending of a halo or like a call of duty. No, you're wrong. Because if you recall, the most
condescending ending of all time is Enter the Matrix. No, wait, no. Path of Neo.
Path of Neo. That's right. Yeah. Yeah. For those that don't know, just YouTube the ending of
Math of Neo. Yeah. It's really good. I also play Lost Skullgirls, but yeah. Yeah. You might
have been playing something else quite a bit over the weekend that has to do with some type of tool.
Well, I'll dig. I'll just take that. Oh, Shovel I came up this week. Well, I figured that was
going to be the umbrella time. I completely forgot because I beat it. Right. Yeah. I figured that
would be the umbrella time. Yeah. Well, I'll leave it at the end. Yeah. Sure. All right. Well, this week
I played Shovel Knight. No, there's nothing else. I beat it. No. Yeah. I'm doing a pure Shovel run
now and it's really fun. Oh, geez. Am I the only one that didn't beat it, I guess? No, I didn't
beat it yet. Wait, what's a pure Shovel run? No upgrades. No. Keep your Shovel pure. No upgrades.
No upgrades. You have to keep the purity of the Shovel. No other armor, just only Shovel. It's
the only way to keep your Shovel pure is to never bring the dirt. No, no. It's a pure Shovel run,
isn't it? I only use Shovel. It's only used to kill. No, I know you're mocking me.
Now we're getting too close that I want to talk about Shovel Knight really. Fine. Yeah. Well,
I was going to say. This sounds really hype for Shovel Knight. No, no. It's great.
Well, we're doing it, I guess. Okay, no way. We all have things we want to say,
so just say what Shovel Knight go. No, talk about the rest of it. No, we're talking about Shovel
Knight. Oh, all right, all right. I'm conflicted now. I promised you garbage. Okay, I just want
to say then to end the Shovel Knight, if you guys aren't playing with the gold armor from A to Z,
you're doing it wrong. What was the gold armor doing? It just makes you do bad flips. You do
know, is that the one that's the most expensive one? You do flips when you jump, so it's pretty much
the best one. Okay, all right. Yeah, really fun game, really fun ending. Yeah, really good ending.
Really good ending. Like, weirdly good. Yeah, like people send messages around that just said that
ending. It's great. It's got a final boss sequence that is like the 8-bit equivalent of like a Platinum
game's ending. Oh, I think that's a good one. The 8-bit equivalent. All right, it's a good ending.
Let's not... Cool things happen that I didn't expect. Awesome. I really like
Patman as another, as a secondary like, submitted character. Patman, yeah. He's
super cake. All the submitted characters were great. Like, even the suit that is,
it's pretty garbage. It's fucking terrible. I mean, in the context of RPG main character type,
Ryze or Raze is the kind of guy that you're like, I could see you in your own JRPG stuff,
like he's doing his stuff. He's fun. He's got a scarf that flows behind him. It's like the
Wild Arms Kills, you know? Yeah, yeah, a little bit. Reminds me of Korra, what's his name? Otomaru
from Garou, which one? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, that's a fucking good one. I saw Edge of Tomorrow,
aka all you need is kill. And I thought you were going to be the one that was going to see it first,
but you were... I was in Japan too, but because I went to Japan, the land where the story was
created had to come first. It is a terrible, horrible corruption of the book, and the book
is a million times better, as with most adaptations, but the book, the movie is still a very entertaining
watch. That's the feeling, or anyone who likes action movies, it's very entertaining because
that's a lot of good stuff. Everything that Liam told me there's differences, I was like,
eh, that's fine, eh, that's fine, eh, you know, yeah, they got to change it. But then he was like,
well, does Tom Cruise get the axe? And I was like, what axe? And then he like flips to the thing.
And he watched the movie, dude, and there isn't even an axe in the movie, and you're like, what?
And then I tried to justify it by saying that at least her sword looks like the most Japanese
weapon. Sword? What? Her sword. I know, but she should have an axe. So her sword is cool as axes.
But, but, no, and you'd think I'd be on the both axes. But I did say you're right. Her weapon is so
out of place in American movie, because it feels like there's no, what American movie can I think
of other than maybe the swords in Pacific Rim? And even then it's kinda... That's pushing American
movie, yeah. One of the things I was the most curious about was like the description of
what the mimics were like in the original book, because the way they look in the manga is 100%
different from the way they are in the American movie. Are you faith through that thing, essentially?
I flip through. But what is, what are they, what are they described as in the book? Same kind of way.
Non, like, like, like hard to tell. They don't have like shapeless form. Well, it's been like a
month and a bit, but if I remember correctly, they don't have firm bodies they evolved from Starfish,
which is different from the movie where they just came from fucking space. Yeah. They evolved from
Starfish. Oh, yeah. Okay. They came from the water. Okay. Oh, wow. That's all new, yeah. So at the
start of the movie, they do look formless for like the first like... But then when you start seeing them,
when they slow down, they actually have to slow down and well, because in a movie you have to give
something a four. Yeah, but I like that how it is. I like how it's like you're still doing the,
you can't quite see it like Jaws Effect type of thing, but you're looking at it, it's just a
bundle of shapes, you know? Because when I watched it, she said, is this thing ever going to become
a thing? Yeah. Is it going to become, then I go, oh, I don't know. And I was like, I bet it's never
going to be a thing. It's always going to be a thing. And it has to be for a movie. There's the face,
there's the mouth. Yeah. There was a lot of like really tasteful humorous bits, actually, that
told me once in the book at all, where like he'll die for whatever reason. Exactly. But you know
I was telling Liam, I don't want to spoil it because it's a funny bit. You know that one where
he's doing push-ups and he's trying to think about how to get away and he dies and attempts right
after it? When he told me that. When I told him that, he thought it was hilarious. Oh, that's really
cute. I saw it and I'm like, that's really good. That's what he meant by Tom Cruise like gets a
little played on him being an action hero. He told me exactly because you go in going, ah,
Tom Cruise like, oh, wait, no, your garbage. No, but it was really good. If anyone likes action
movies, go see it. And if anyone wants to read a better story, read the book. Yeah. But I recommend
both. There you go. That's what I like to hear. It's like, wow, that movie was great. It was
shit compared to the source material because that's way better. I like hearing that. I really
wish they would have had that burger eating contest. I think you really want a eating contest in
your fiction. Because there's eating contest in the book. And I was really desperately hoping
they changed that hard Japanese food to burgers because that would be the most like, no, why
you're having your burgers, Tom. Exactly. Exactly. But no. Oh, wait, tell, tell us that in the movie,
like his name is so ridiculous. Oh, yeah. The movie, his name is William Cage.
Like that's so like action. That's so bad that Liam told me that. In the book, the last name is
KG. So that's why he's called Cage. Because at the end, he gets the phrase killer cage etched
into his jacket. Yeah. And that's where killer cage comes from, which is obviously where they
adapted the English one. And they just called him Cage, because they can't call him Cage. So it's
pretty much. I think that's pretty cool. I forget his first name in the book now, but whatever,
Cage is closest you can get it, it's pretty much. But boy, like, I was kind of laughing at that
movie when like he woke up and he was in America and it was all American and the most American
officers ever. And I was he should have been in a burger. It was it was so American military,
but still entertaining. Nice to see Bill Paxton again in like, I yeah, yeah, I have a I realized
something in watching that movie is that like, I have a love for any time the new recruit shows up
to the old group that knows each other and they've got the nicknames and the ragtag group. Yeah,
I always like that in things. Is it better than the equivalent scene in Aliens? It's close. It's
pretty close. It's closer than any modern movie that I can think of offhand that has that like
great group of guys that, well, they don't have tons of lines. You remember they have mobile.
Not nearly as great as Vasquez, but there is the equivalent. There's an equivalent there.
And then there's like, the one who's actually probably better than Vasquez, who's the secondary
main character. Yeah, amazing, you know, but yeah, cool. Only other thing of significance,
I did I said, I said, I wasn't going to do it, but I finally came. I bought Mario Kart 8.
Why did you say you weren't going to do it? Because I was really soured on seven. Oh,
okay. I was just really soured on seven and I bought eight notes. It's fucking item.
God damn it. I was playing it. I'm like, this is fun.
But I still got hit by a couple blue shells and I was like, that's bullshit. I was supposed to win.
Like, fuck you. The more people have found that there's even more additional secret ways to get
to something that you can power boost at the last second before you get hit and you can avoid it.
I'm appreciating that there's a lot of neat stuff. I'm not sure if that was that stuff that I just
mentioned was programmed in or there are also blue shells. And isn't there also an anti blue shell
item now? Yeah, anti any item. I used to hate blue shells until last week. Somebody actually
explained why blue shells are in the game and it blew my mind. And it's because in Mario Kart,
item use affects players two through eight only. Like once you're actually out in front,
the only thing other players can do is make the others lose order. There's no way to actually
get a red shell on the first guy. Like a lightning bolt affects everyone.
After a certain point, once you pull far enough ahead, you're out of the fray and the remaining
players can only fuck with each other. And now apparently the blue shell hits people on the way
to first place. I'm not sure. It used to. And then they made a fly. I think it flies in this one.
I'm usually in first. The first time it was at it was an indestructible shell on the course.
No, I don't know. I also hate the rubber banding in Mario Kart that is super aggressive.
But I'm having a lot of fun with it. It's not as bad as split second. That was so bad that
articles are written about that. You would be at max speed and guys would fly past you at like
three times and you'd be in the car and the game could go. The worst culprit I can think of is the
saboteur. But because it's not a racing game. Because there's a racing segment in the beginning.
It's awful. No matter where you are on the course, but before you hit the second lap,
your rival and everyone behind them is two other guys have to catch up to you. So you see the car
moving at fucking rock speed around the track to get where they need to be. That's the problem
you're doing in a story-based game that has that component because the cutscene has to be like...
It was like the fact that you just blew past everyone. It was terrible. Not great. What about
you grandma swamp? Grandma swamp? Yeah, fair enough. Well, you've been playing shovel knight for 14 hours
and you've served. Everyone's playing shovel knight forever. Exactly. Besides looping the shovel
knight OST and not listening to the parts I haven't gotten to yet. You should buy it. No, but I will
give the money. Yeah, because it's pay whatever you want. It literally goes to Jake Hoffman.
I was ladies' house just jumping on YouTube, but absolutely. But there's also the rearranged album
that has the Mega Man 1 composer on there. Yes, yes. Two hours. Of course. And, you know,
persona four golden still going in the act. Well, give me a month. Well, I just met Kenji.
Oh, yeah, so me. Yeah, I'm going slow, but you know... Don't go on 4chan. Yeah, because it's well
fucked. This fucking idiot. Like, I managed to avoid the spoiler. And what did you do? I came across
it. It was just there. And I wasn't looking for it in a thread or anything. It just popped up,
because that's what you do. You be an asshole. You know who doesn't care about spoiler tags?
It's been like eight years. But you know who doesn't care about spoiler tags? People on 4chan.
So, yeah, I went on it and I was there and like I got kicked with a crossfire bullet. What can I
say? Crossfire of the main villain. I read the sentence blank is the killer. So... Did you see
his trailer get an ultimat? No. Well, now you can go watch it. No, I don't want to watch it, because
I don't need to know anything about anything else. No, it doesn't really spoil. I don't even want to
confirm further information about anything. Okay. Like, I don't even want to know how, like,
real or not real or true or... You know what I mean? Like, I don't want to know how far that detail
goes. Sure. So, like, already that was like reconformation of something that I was like,
I don't know how far this goes. Just beat it tonight. Yeah, that's all you gotta do. That's the solution.
150 more hours tonight. But just you stop talking, because even saying that, I didn't want to know
that. Eris dies. Sure. I know. Whatever. No, no, no. My fault. Statute of limitations, I understand.
Statute of limitations is weird with this game, because if it didn't have the fighting games,
it would still totally be covered. Sure. And the thing is, and the thing is,
but the fighting games are a totally different genre. And I wouldn't, I wouldn't, like, it wouldn't
be a big deal if the format of the game wasn't a who done it. No, I know. Don't worry about it so
much. I'm trying not to, because the way I was thinking about it in my head was like, P3 has
like a traitor. And it's like, and if you find out that spoiler, it's like, it's not a big deal
at all, because the game is not about that. But here, everything is edging around this mystery,
so fine. Okay. You know? Well, there's more stuff to it. For context, in P3 and in P4,
I guessed those characters within the first like five hours. Sure. Like immediately. Okay. And it
in no way affected my enjoyment whatsoever. Okay. Especially P4. P4 does it quite well.
There's other questions to be answered, certainly. But no, you've got a lot of P4 left to cover.
Absolutely. But try not to worry. I don't trust you. No, it's not. It's no fishing.
And everything spoiler about that game is so weird that every, like, you know,
everyone that's going to go into that television from the fucking intro. Yeah. Yeah. Like, you know
what the party is. No, you do. You do. That's true. Like, that's so bizarre that they do that.
Like, why does every RPGs do that? They show every single party member in the opening cutscene.
Yeah, it's just like, I guess it's like the experience of pure coldness in a giant story
like that. Like, I can't remember the last time I've had it, you know, where you're like,
you're playing this game and you have no precedent or no idea of, like, who's coming when or where.
The only time I get that now is when I'm playing, like, a $4.80 indie game on Steam that I've never
heard of. I guess. There's not many Japanese RPGs that even have a who done it thing.
Because fucking Marl is on the box doing the wrong spell on Chrono's sword. So you're like,
well, yeah. Yeah. Shit. Like, you always know. Anyway, yeah, I know that I was doing that. And
I spent a good part of my week as well. Going back to a book, I don't know if any of you guys
heard of it. I picked it up a while ago and started. It's called A Hundred Years of Solitude.
I really know the name. Really, really good book. And I made it part ways in, but I never ended up
finishing it. I just, you know, time and things by the wayside. So I decided, fuck it, I'm going to
jump on Audible. And I, you know, I got my... I just had an image of the book wearing a fedora.
So who's reading this book to you? I'm, I'm, I don't know his name, but he has a very deep voice.
I was hoping for like Snoop Dogg or something. No, it's like a guy with an accent. But like,
when he gets to like the Spanish names, he throws in the conquistador. You know, so it's pretty fun
stuff. And yeah, no, like it's, I've already caught up to where I left off. And like, it's a great
read slash listen. And I'm pretty, like, I've gotten, the person who originally recommended it to me
said like, this is one of those things that's on a list of like, if you only have to read one book
in your life, you could do this, you could do this type of thing. So, uh...
Hyperbolic? Well, is it that good? So far, it's fan-fucking-tastic.
Okay. But like, we're talking like, just plain literature.
Because you show me books. Absolutely. But Desert Island scenario, you'd probably be okay type of
thing, you know. You wouldn't regret it. Yeah. Well, you'd regret being on a Desert Island a whole
lot more than that. Well, you wouldn't regret having chosen this book or wound up with this book.
So maybe on a 7-3, you would? Yeah. As you're munching down those chapters one by one, you know.
Awesome. Maybe there's nutrients in these pages. And, uh, sir. Just squeeze out the, the, the book
juice. Squeeze the words out, yeah. Um, as for me, like, um, one of you, I think I told you,
Elise, it was my anniversary, my girlfriend this weekend. Congratulations. Congratulations
to the winners. Anyway, um, we did a couple of things. But the first thing we did is that we
watched this, uh, Found Footage, uh, horror movie on Netflix. Because we like,
Fantastic Four. Oh, that's good.
That was, that was Found Footage. Wow. Now, there's this movie called, um, The Bell Witch Haunting.
And we like, like trolling through Netflix and finally trying to think. And this was like,
oh, it's Found Footage. Oh, let's give it a shot. And first of all, Willie, you're on Netflix a lot.
Netflix ratings mean absolutely nothing. Yeah. You'll see aliens, two stars. Yeah. Then you'll
see like garbage, like seven stars. And there's, it only goes up to five stars. And like,
Portland is the only one where Portlandia, four stars. Yes. Anytime there's official star ratings
on anything like that. Because it's by users. Exactly. Exactly. Like on Xbox, they have that
next to games. Yeah. Yeah. Head over, head over that on Sony Store two and a source. Yeah. No,
head on over to Vanquish and then go, oh, I'm never looking at these again.
Right. Exactly. So there's, Bell Witch Haunting's got like three stars. We go,
watch it, whatever. And it's Found Footage. And it's the most paranormal activity ripoff I've
ever seen. Is there a witch? I tell them clear, right? So, so it's got the night cam. It's got
night number one, night number two, night blah, blah, blah, blah. And it's like this family,
rich family that moved in. And then in the start of the movie, it shows the chest cam of a police
officer who stops his car and goes dispatch. We've got something over here. And he goes and he
finds two dead bodies. And he goes, oh, dispatch. We need an ambulance. And then he leaves and then
it goes back to the family. And I go, what the fuck was that? How was, how was the stitch together?
It's setting the tone. Right. Yeah. So the family goes, oh, hey, we have a little electricity is
really funny. This house, our lights going on and off. Let's have an electrician come in.
And that should cut shouldn't comes in. Then it goes to his YouTube video. Demi is electricians.
And it's done in a first person camera to keep with the theme. Is it portrait mode? Yeah. And he
goes, he goes, Hey, so we're just gonna, and I'm like, oh, of course he's joking. Right. And he's
like, ah, the acting's so bad. Then the guy falls down. There's, there's smoke everywhere. And the
husband comes in and goes, or you, he's dead. Get an ambulance. Then it cuts to day number two.
And the family's just eating breakfast. Go, Hey, what did you do? What's that? I don't know.
Then it cuts to the police officer again. And it's police. It's always the same name. Police
officer. Like I'm already falling asleep. Bella Ford. He goes, Hey, I found a leg in the road.
Dispatch. That's no good. And then it just, the movie just continues on like this. And the police
officer finds someone being hung by a tree. And I'm like, there's no rhyme. So what you're saying
is that it's less of a movie and more of a bunch of things that happen. A performance. It's RPC.
But I saved the movie by myself, even though it didn't actually save itself. But I thought the way
to save the movie is that there was a thread inside the movie saying all this weird stuff is going on
the house that the son is doing this. Like, Hey, hey, look, I think there's a witch haunting us.
And our property used to be on the Bell Witch property. And then the guy goes, Yeah, we should
make like a little movie documentary. Let's go out in the woods and like, no record what happens.
And then the guy gets his, his friend gets all of his intestines pulled out. And all the special
effects were so cheesy. The acting was so bad. And then all the family, I don't care, no one's
gonna watch this. I don't care. All the family dies. And then when the husband dies, I'll have been like,
Oh my God, I figured out how to save this movie. And she goes, What? It was the son goes cut.
Yeah. And walks in front of the camera doesn't save it. No, it does. That would make me throw
my drink at my own. But it was so bad that it was the only way to make up for all the shit that
was going on and bad special effects. If it was that, no, I don't think I want any. I don't think
the ending of it was all the dream can ever save anything. I think in this case, it did.
Usually I'd agree with you. Yeah, well, Netflix has a couple of stinkers on it.
And the other thing I was going to go to is we went to Xbox video, which I almost never do.
Xbox video kicks the shit out of Netflix in terms of sheer sheer selection. But you've got to pay
for each time. Yeah, but we go into horror 600 titles. You can't find all the horror movies on
Netflix. It's all by being bounced around. It's a much worse system overall. Yeah, I want to be
able to search, but it makes up for it by the sheer cost. I wonder if that's the result of us
having Netflix Canada versus. No, no. It's the same in both. Because I use the fake DNS to shoot.
Yeah, same here. Okay. It's the same in both. There's no real easy clean way to browse. It's
always under genres. Yeah. Or you'll get new stuff based on what you already watched. Because
you watched Girl with the Dragon Tattoo, you can watch now Arthur. I had the problem on Netflix
where I was watching so many things within the same category that it was starting to suggest
things I had already watched. Yeah, yeah. You know, wow, you really like Parks and Rec. Do you
want to watch Portlandia? I watched that. Hey, you really like Portlandia, Parks and Rec. Do you
want to watch Always Sunny? Or 30 Rock. All of those are in the trilogy. I'm like, fuck's sake,
people. Not great. And the kind of last thing is to complete this fear trilogy. We went to like
this scary haunt thing in town near the old port where it's a bunch of shipping containers connected
to each other. Yeah. And you walk in, you pay like, it's like, I think you walk into 10 minutes.
I was kind of disappointed because on your ticket, it says from 9 to 10, I was like,
oh, this thing is going to take like an hour to go through. Oh, it's sick. And you go in,
it's people are masked, and they go, come in. Welcome. Are they standing around waiting for
you to get there to get into position? Yeah. Okay. So it's not like a fully automated. No,
they crank open like a vault for like a door to step in. And the entire cool thing about this,
the entire thing was in pitch black. You have to feel your way around. The only thing that they do
is put little red LEDs to give you all that's kind of where I need to go. The cool thing about it is
that the living that really got us and made me like, I laugh every time I got scared. It was too
much fun. I love these things. But these whipping sound effects and like, these things hit you in
your legs, but like rubbery things so that you don't trip or whatever. And it keeps happening.
And we're going through and people jump out at you and like, you can't punch the performers.
If you're black, you're not allowed to punch the performers. Don't do it. I love that video.
It happens. And you know, sometimes when someone pops out. Reflexes. Or a scarecrow on a balcony
or a porch stands up at you. The one really cool thing was like a freezer room with hanging
bodies and all of them are fake except for the last one. And that was a real guy that let that
just go, that we freaked our shit. And of course the finale. And I can't post this anywhere because
my girlfriend promised me not to. We got a photo of us, you know, all those attractions that have
some bright light that shines on people. And there's all those hilarious image boards of people
going, so we have this great one of me. And it's so classic that she's clutching me from behind
and going, yeah. And I've got like a dumpling laugh and look at my pants and go, good. It's so great
and they're like, do you want a four by six? Or will we give them four by six? Do you want four
by six? They need this in my life. So how pitch black is this? Pitch black. So what's to stop you
from just like, like, hey, like taking a dump and nobody. They can see you. Because I made one of
these back at our old college as a little Halloween room thing. And like, you have to be able to see
them, but they can't see you. I would totally love to make one of those things. If I was in some
other field. It was a fun time. We're ever going to get to make one of those. No, no, no. Thousands
of people who will come if we make one. It's the perfect context. This I bought to American
Wasteland or something like it's it's got like different video game theme worlds like Searing
Gas Painland. The Lobster Moby Costume. Exactly. The Lobster Moby Costume. We've got lots of
costumes. We gotta get our hands on a copy of ET. That could be like the final thing.
Unnecessary Surgery Land. Yeah. You're great. I still like Searing Gas Painland.
Unnecessary Surgery Land is the last thing. It meant to be the punchline, but Searing Gas Painland
for my money is funnier. Yeah, way funnier. Please do not do sick combos on the performers as they
come out and stir you. Don't hide times the performers, please. Don't do it. If you can avoid it.
We've got the return of an old segment called Plague Asks. Oh, buddy, that's a relationship.
What's going on YouTube called Plague of Grypes is kind of creepy, but he makes cartoons. They know.
They don't know? They know. New people don't know. They know. What if there's new people listening
right now? They don't even know our names because we didn't say them. Yeah, true. I'm Leo. I'm Pat.
How wow. You're a wookie. You're Matt. No, you're Wookie. Yeah. Chewy. Chewy, sorry. I am Chewy.
I'm Chocolate Crunchy. Plague wants to know, are there characters in Fighting Games with the
Context? Are there characters whose movesets and general feel you love, but personality and appearance
hate personality? So not the thing where you're like that, you know, that person looks cool,
but goddamn their hearts. I have the opposite. That happens to everyone, but I said not the
opposite. Because there's always, everyone can think of a ton of characters that you love the way
they look, but you hate the way they play, but the opposite version of that. Can you think of
characters you like their movesets, but hate their appearance? Iron Taker. Yeah, I don't like his
appearance very much. Iron Taker's just a knockoff Potemkin. Yeah, but that's not like really getting
into the nitty gritty of this question. I just don't like how Iron Taker looks. I do like Iron
Taker because I like Circle Blasters. You mean Iron Taker? Iron Taker, Taker. Goddamn. For me,
excuse me, two that come to mind are Kazumi Toto. She's the girl with the big Japanese pants from
K.O.I.F. and CBS. And she's got all these cool moves, like these cool energy spikes. She does
like the energy spike moves. They're like power geysers, but she's garbage. No, she's awesome.
And her dad is garbage. No, her dad is garbage. She's awesome. No, they're both garbage.
The only difference is that she has blue hair and a ponytail and no mustache.
That's pretty much it. That's all the boring characters. And the others are in real bout
Fatal Fury. The last bosses are the twins, the Jin twins. Oh yeah, they're like these midgets.
Chanchu and Chon-Rae. They're like these midgets. They have cool names. They have a cool name.
They're not midgets, but they're just little young Chinese kids. Oh, they're kids?
Yeah, they're psychic power kids. I thought they were like midgets in Chinese pajamas.
No, they're wearing dumb clothes and they have dumb occurrences. But their movesets are pretty cool,
like psychic shodo fighter things going on. They have some great teleports and setups, but
in there Han Fu is the guy with the nunchucks. Han Fu is the nunchuck guy. He has cool moves,
but he's clearly just a lame Jackie Chan, like rumble in the Bronx rip-off. Yes, and Kim Kefon
wasn't in it, so he replaced Kim Kefon. Yeah, I've got one. It's Athena from King of Fighters.
You like her moveset? I think her moveset is pretty cool. I fucking hate Athena so much,
sure. She has a Psycho Ball. Psycho Ball 98, specifically. Fuck. That's the one you're thinking
about. Shut up, Athena. I don't like Ashley's appearance from Battle Fantasia. Yeah, Ashley's
from Battle Fantasia. The guy with the Bishi guy with the hair in the rose.
He's so bland, like Bishi looking. We got nothing. Exactly, we got nothing, but we made it look
pretty. But he's really fun to play. I'd probably play a lot more Jury if she was toned down or
not. I think Jury's good. Wait until you read part six, you won't be saying that. You'll be happy
that Jury is Jolene. Fine, fine. So fuck off. You fuck off. I know a lot of people have that with
Hekon. Yes, Hekon. Yes, so dumb. I love Hekon because he's dumb, but I can easily... He looks so
good. He looks so dumb and good. Yeah, first of all, I think his appearance is fantastic. No, no,
I like Hekon. But I can see how people would just be like, why is he bright red and has the green
hair? He has the best Barrel. Anyone has ever had an any hair. Barrel has more personality
than he is. He's playing. You have an answer for himself in there. I don't play fighting games.
Yeah, generally. No, he does. He's just really bad at them. He plays a little bit. Like he said,
like he's like, I can see that KOF 13 is a fantastic game, but fuck, I can't deal with these fighting
games. It's one of those things. Sure, sure. Yeah, no, but it's a hard question because it's
opposite. I was going to say, oh, Blackheart. Oh, wait, no, no, that's the reverse. Blackheart
doesn't play all that interesting. Like everyone's got that, you know, like, oh, yeah, the guy that
looks great, but then, oh, fuck that moveset. Did you say C Viper? C Viper was one of those
situations. Just because she's overwhelming or... It's too much. It's too much for me as well.
Franco Bash. No, I wouldn't want to change that. Fuckin' Franco Bash from Real Bad as well.
Oh, Real Bad.
The Richard Meyer and Bob Wilson. Bob Wilson. You know what? I got one. I used to be like that with
Urienne. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. I used to absolutely hate Urienne's design. But then you love Aegis
Reflector. But then you realized... But then I realized how wrong I was. Right. Yeah. Like, I think,
for me, like, I still kind of look at Urienne. I'm like, it's still weird, but Gil I'm okay with
because he's clearly been as honest. Gil's a hundred times worse. I like Urienne better.
No, I think Gil's fine in the boss scenario. Yeah. He's wearing the robes and they burn off of him
and he's like, I'm such a fucking deity. Look at me. Yeah. You're like, no, you're not. Fuck you.
Yeah. Like, I like that. You're just an Iceman and a Pyraman. Exactly. And he can use the ice
fires on one side and the fire fire on the other. And when he jumps to the other side of the screen,
they actually switch. Not unlike a certain girl named Korra.
Legend of Korra Platinum Games? This was the place. So personally, I saw it coming.
What? I totally saw it. This is the most telegraphed of human icemen I've ever seen.
Okay. So J.P. Kellam, stop being so predictable. What I heard about this, I immediately got woolly
on the line. What I heard about this, I thought it was literally a joke. You didn't only get me,
I'm like, you woke me up. Yeah. And I was like, boy, you're Platinum Games. Fuck you, it's Korra.
Why are there's a joke as well? Why are you calling me to troll me? Why are you not like,
not even a joke? I'm like, what? I'm certain people listen to this podcast for a while. Remember
that when Bayo 2 got announced, I had the scenario in which I woke up late, way after it broke,
and assumed that people were fucking with me. This is the exact same scenario in which I'm
looking at screenshots and thinking they're doctored, because they're all so out of left field. Plus,
it's easy to doctor-assultiated. Yeah. And also, the trailer wasn't really gameplay. It was just
there was nothing else. I thought that, yes, a Korra game was announced, but it's another company
named Platinum, right? It was spelt it, or it was just like an error. It's not a GameSpot entry.
No, but I'm excited. My favorite thing about this announcement is now in threads on the internet
where people said, you can't say Platinum. No, you can't. Because they'll do anything. They're
open for hire. Also, it makes a lot more sense now that I know that it's a deal, a downloadable
game. Slap a Korra skin on the Revengeance. That seems to be quite what it is. Yeah, exactly.
I was going to say that this whole makes me think that if you are going to license properties
and make action games or whatever, they should stop making retail games, stop having them on five
skews, make them downloadables, give them to decent devs, and make them like four or five
hour games, and that's it. I honestly think that someone at Nickelodeon, like someone got hired,
you know what I mean? No, the story already exists. The producer at Activision got a list of
developers they could pick, and as soon as you saw Platinum was on that list, it wasn't a question
anymore. No, he just knew. And so the producer at Activision made it. So there's a weird narrative
going around now, and I don't mean like people are creating one, but think about it. Like,
Adam has become the go-to studio of no one here knows how to make an action game. No one knows
how to make an action game anymore. They don't, to forgot nothing. But those people know how to
make an action game. Yeah. They know how to make the best action game ever. It's like,
Devil May Cry should have been outsourced to Platinum. Yeah. Not Ninja Theory. No. But as long as
that's Capcom asking Inafuna, can you make this? Like, it's not going to happen. But like, as long
as the public at large doesn't understand why Heavenly Sword is not as good as Dante's Awakening,
and they're going to have both an AT-TOP on Medicare, it's going to be a problem. This is a
good opportunity for that to happen. I fucking hope this game's solved. Can it get much more mass
market than popular, like, Western TV shows? Certainly. Yeah, especially when the new seasons
debut. Hopefully it's not ass or something like Sourette. Yeah, it certainly is. And I can't wait
for, like, the companion RPG game to be god-awful as most. It's by Webfoot. They made the Legacy of
Goku games on Gameboy, which is our bad game. Those are fine, right? Nobody fucking knows who
Webfoot is except this asshole right here. No, no, no. Because you're thinking of the
trading card game, which I did work in, and like, I made sure to get over 9,000 in the script,
but I know Webfoot because when Bid for Power was canceled, it was because of the Legacy of
Goku games, so Dragon Ball fans hated them. But it was also because Taikaichi got started in
development. No, no, no. It was because Funimation hired Atari, so Atari had all the infogrames,
so then they ceased anything fan-like. Now Dragon Ball is officially entered in American
video game development, so everything has to be canceled. That is being fan-made. So when Legacy
of Goku was coming out, it was a random little tiny, wherever they're from, are they from Europe
or New York? Yeah, I think they're American. American? Everyone was hating on the game and
the developer just because Bid for Power was canceled. But when the games actually came out,
they were cute little, like, Zelda-esque. The second one in particular. Well, yeah. What I'm
getting at though is, like, once the IP goes back to being just Nickelodeon games, it's going to be
like, well, forget about it this whatever. Just throw it in with SpongeBob's, like, XBLA racing
game. I was going to say, I made this joke with you guys before, because I can't reply to them
steak on Rocko's Modern Life. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Why not? I'm just scared of a future where, like,
they'll make Transformers with High Moon and then ditch High Moon and get someone else to make the
sequel. Yeah, much like what just happened. Well, exactly. So you got to do that. Or do the sequel
like anyone else. Think about, like, also just the evolution of this, like, I guess, related
franchise in a way where Avatar is the point at shit fucking shit situation that happened in the
launch of 360, where you go, you jump on that to get your thousand achievement points in less than
a minute because, wow, what a garbage game. And now we- But we all know the actual technical
reason why that happened. Yeah, it was, it was, it was compliance. Because shitty games were lazy and
awful. No, no. I told you the story. He told you this, dude. A guy wrote in to the bombcast,
like, two, three years ago, explaining why that is. And he had made, he was the
achievement designer, and he had made a shitload of really good achievements for that game.
But because of a compliance failure related to player two getting achievements on player one's
profile, Microsoft said, no, no, no, these are good. And they were told to redo the
achievements within the two week, like, CERC deadline. So he had to make ones that were testing
that. Right, right, right. So it's woolly, if somebody worked in compliance, for you to
instantly jump to shitty devs or lazy over a problem that you're familiar with,
well, hold on a second. You just told them, and he said, yes, you're right. So there,
the rest of your sentence is totally moved. At the same time, though, knowing what that
type of problem is- That game is still not a great game. Oh, no, it's not. It's not very good.
You know, and to look at where it's going, or at least where it's about to arrive. I just feel
bad for that guy, because he probably did do some decent achievements, and then he got fucked,
and now, like, his name is Dirt Forever, which I can't remember. And I'm not going to, I'm not
going to, like, hold him up to, like, a standard of someone else, but I've seen achievements like
that that had problems with them reworked into, like, a submitable pass in the same time frame.
So, but everything's different. Working under Activision on a license that needs to hit a
certain date might be a different story. And you also have no precedent for how achievements work,
because people didn't really know how to use the language. But, you know, like,
avatars, it's been a long time coming that they get a good game. Yeah, it's weird that it took so
long. I'm proud, really. There's a lot of bad avatar games. Like, it's still a Cartoon or Nickelodeon,
which I can't recall having many good games ever. But it's like, it was a good game.
There's one kid's game that I was like, everyone's like, what? This is good? Which was that serve
sub game with the Penguin Serpent? That Penny Arcade was like, I'm obsessed with this game,
because it's actually pretty good. Lest we forget the SpongeBob car game, the Flash one.
Oh, I love that game. It's so hard. Or what about Wacky Racer?
What about Wacky Racer and Eidos? That's a special story.
So, now that Platinum has been confirmed to be able to do anything, like, I'm halfway to my fantasy
game of, like, Platinum developed Obsidian written, like, RPGs. I don't think that's possible. Well,
shouldn't Obsidian become new Platinum and just make everything? They were supposed to make that
fucking alien's RPG. Obsidian couldn't even get an 85 on Fallout.
No bonuses. You can't, can you, everyone hear his smarmy shit grain on this?
I like Obsidian. I would sooner see Platinum. That's all publisher related.
I'd sooner see Platinum made Atlas Written, because they're both Japanese. Yeah, that's fine.
You know what I mean? And... Just wait for Rising 2, then you'll forget about it. Rising
2 Ultimate? Dude, it's super good. That's good. That's a good name. And speaking of smarmyness
and Japanese things, oh my god, did you guys read the transcript of the Nintendo Shareholder
meeting? No, no, I read the majority of it. Give me the cliff snow. Wow! Which bit specifically,
like, dude, you first of all get better soon, Iwata. Yeah, that's unfortunate. The health issues
are not great. There you go. Every time I'm like, why is Liam here? He's just the dumbest retarded
idiot ever. Every time we make fun of Shareholders and shit and do that whole thing, it turns
out it's super warranted. Oh, it's super warranted. Every time. Those fucking scumbags. Like, you listen
to this meeting transcript and the questions they ask, you gotta give us cliff snow. I will,
because I read it and it... He's building up to it, because some of them are so mean and shitty
that I had to go read Nuzlocke comments to feel better. I mean, okay, so let me get this page
open, because basically there was a transcript from... So these are questions asked by Shareholders.
By Shareholders. To people on the board. So this would give more context to all those times when
Iwata and Reggie and all I was just saying shit like fuck Shareholders. Like, it's nuts, because
the dudes that are there are asking shit like... What is a video game? Where's my money? Give me
back my son. I don't know about games and I don't care about game-related questions, but your
Shareholders haven't said anything about the stock price dropping. What kind of Shareholder meeting
is this? Tell me about the business administration. And the response to this is the audience applause.
Applauds what he said. That's that type of question.
The other Shareholders. They're fucking sharks, man.
Like, isn't like 40% of Nintendo's active public stocks on my banks?
I don't know.
Not sure.
I don't know.
I don't know the breakdown.
We're not going to check that fact.
No, certainly not.
But there are worse questions than that.
But it's like, I don't care about your business or what it means. Tell me how your business will
make money, but we're telling you.
President Iwata owns many shares, but the other directors only hold one or two hundred each.
Does this mean that they're not responsible? You know? Like, just drilling van.
That's storming.
Just straight up taking time to just be like, what the fuck? What the fuck, you guys?
You shits? What are you doing? What's going on? Whoa? Or what?
And it's just like, you think that it would be like, I'm more professional.
No, it's not more professional. Shareholding is, okay. You know how I get crazy about like,
false advertising and I'm like, they should give everyone their money back?
Yeah.
For trivial offenses.
Imagine a room full of a thousand people of that who have invested money and are businessmen
and have that attitude.
It's but also don't understand the market.
But also, but no, don't care about the market.
Even if they understand it, then it's not about the market. It's about the market.
Yeah.
Just give me my money now, though.
Iwata asks, hasn't been updated in some time.
Is there any reason for this other than his health issues?
You know, I want it is too sincere and taking the company slump on himself
is the cause of this because of his illness.
Like, like, are you fit to run the company now that you are sick?
Well, he's been getting lower and lower votes from the shareholders.
No, but this is like five years running.
Well, yeah, because of the Wii U.
But, but I mean, like these questions aren't coming out of nowhere.
But I certainly didn't know.
I didn't know that like spears were being checked.
Did you see like the fucking shit storm around?
What was that guy's name?
He's dead now. It's an apple guy.
Steve Jobs?
Steve Jobs. That's him.
Like, why he had to hide the fact that he had pancreatic cancer
because the shareholders would have fucking put their shit.
Yeah. And then there's like just a bunch of them about like when the fuck
the guy is going to start looking at mobile.
I don't want to have my money invested in a company that starts making medical devices.
Yeah.
You know, and just and just like really fucking bullshit.
Guess what?
There's a quote from like the president of Devolver
that I think really hits this on the head.
Oh, yeah, Liam told me about this.
He's taking an interview about like free to play stuff.
I can't remember the exact context.
And he's just like, man, people are telling me to add like free to play stuff
to our games that we publish and push like microtransactions.
And all he's like doing is saying fuck you, you guys.
And he's like, I was a BAFTA and there was a guy on stage talking about
how free to play is the future and consoles are dying.
And all you could think the whole time was fuck you.
Fuck you.
That sounds like us.
Rubbing the middle finger.
You business man.
Jim Sterling did a video a while ago about how one was either a BAFTA or it was a GDC.
GDC.
And there was a talk about mitigating feedback from your free to play.
Negative feedback.
Negative feedback.
Yeah.
But it was raised like mitigating crowd feedback on free to play.
And it was basically like there's no way to read that.
It was basically the whole thing was an hour long talk about how to like deflect people
being pissed off that your free to play model was garbage.
Wow.
When the answer is don't make a garbage model.
And it's like, no, no, no.
Have your voting system send them to a forum to complain about what's wrong with your game.
That's how you do it.
It's like, I guess like I'm going to say something mind blowing here.
Get ready.
Shock me.
If you put on a tie and a suit to go to work, you're probably a piece of shit and people
listening to this that are wearing suits and ties right now sitting in a bank or an investment
office somewhere are just kind of like looking down at their phone or computer and just going
like shoulder slump.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Oh, I have a piece of shit.
Say goodbye to our sponsors forever.
I think all the word jeans and shoes.
I like to think that.
One of these questions is a fucking guy that's like, basically, when are we going to get more
Reagan live?
Shut up.
Like straight up.
Is that was that said by me?
We've had single player games like Xenoblade and Reagan live.
When is the Wii U going to get more of these games?
And they're like, well, Xenoblade Chronicles, fucker.
Why don't you pay attention?
It's all the chart behind me.
So be aware that the shareholders of Nintendo are usually the ones that when something like
for the 3DS, it was said in an interview or a press, shareholders said, release it now.
And Nintendo was like, you don't have a lot of games ready.
No, release it now.
And then when it underperforms, when the 3DS came out, they were like, what the fuck happened?
And it was so...
Question number two is how about gifts for the
shareholders?
When are we getting our fucking gifts?
This is the first time this has been made available to the public.
No, it's not.
But like this is the first time it's like someone just went and transcribed it.
What's up?
Yeah, usually it happens.
Usually we don't hear about it for whatever reason.
As a thing.
But they're always there.
The business world is closer to alchemy than it is to science.
And I will just say the answer to that question was like,
there's legal limitations on the gifts we can give you guys.
Right?
That's pretty funny.
So, you know.
At the end of the day, they're all just businessmen in it for the money.
There's not employees.
They're not connected to the company.
I know.
And it's super unfortunate that that's the way it has to be.
But thankfully there's the Nintendo actively and almost always buys back their shares like
constantly.
Let's take the example Matt used about the 3DS releasing.
It's like when they say, but we don't have many games ready,
the response from a shareholder is usually,
I don't know what that means and I don't care.
I want this quarter to be good.
And that's why like publicly owned companies do like horrible stupid shit.
That's why the release calendar for games amongst the year is super fucked.
You get tons of shit in March, tons of shit in October, November.
Yeah, me and they were talking about, what are you buying in July?
And I'm like, we literally asked that exact question.
Because when I think about it, because I've listened to you talking about like day trading,
like JBL and Gallagher, who's another big one and stuff.
And it's one of the, they are in and out of companies constantly because you just ride
away and make a profit, jump out.
Do you think, right?
So like a lot of these people are not only are they in it for the business type thing,
but they're gambling.
They're not investing.
They're not invested in their investment.
Yeah, in that ironic sense.
I mean, some of these guys own millions of dollars.
Some of them, some of them.
Like the guy that said, I've been here for 10 years and so on and so forth.
But others are like fucking release a new punch out.
It's unfortunately, it isn't their best interest to protect their money.
And that's, that's all there is to it.
I want some of those questions to be like, I found F0GX to be too hard.
What are you guys doing to work around that?
When is the next F0 coming out?
And can I play it now?
On a wider scale.
This is why every time there's a company that does either a product or service you really
enjoy and they say, we're proud to announce starting today, we're going public.
This will really make us way better.
And you always go, no.
It's like, look at Valve.
This will save company name.
Valve gets to do whatever because they're private as fuck.
They don't have to do anything.
Absolutely.
GoPro just went public.
What do they do?
They make go pros.
They make go pros.
That's it.
That's no need.
Why do you?
No, we want no.
Just get that huge influx of money.
Now, that being said, that being said, if anybody wants to buy stocks when we eventually
go public, please buy all the stocks you can to give me money.
I have them on giant sheets of bulls.
I'll just send them to your house.
Can't wait to have them.
That's the deal, is going public is shitty for everyone except for the people going public,
which is super good.
At that time.
At that moment.
No, what you do is you go public and then you leave.
We're going to go to work.
They show up as 2BF on the little stickers.
And then like Mr. Burns office and like look at the little really printouts.
You know, this is where I stopped last checking it 1920.
Wait, no.
Smithers, why did you tell me about this market crash?
Well, it happened 50 years before I was born, sir.
Oh, that's your excuse for everything.
Thank you.
That's what I'm looking at.
What a great, what a great, I've not thought about that.
You were basically like a human, like talk box.
It's almost like you wish to lure all these investors to a meeting and when they get in
the room, no one is actually there.
There's just a pile of money.
And then the lights turn on and outside you can see a giant monster destroying the building
with them in it.
Like a Godzilla of some kind.
Oh, like a Godzilla.
That would be cool.
That would be cool.
That new Godzilla game doesn't look too great.
No.
I still want to take up that bet that it's made by Yooks.
Can't take back the Facebook posts.
Well, welcome to the world that Gundam fans live in.
Because you see the screenshot and you go, oh, hey, screenshot, right?
Not just not a bullshot, but nice.
Sure.
And then you see footage.
Gundam games are good.
No, they're not.
I got a great game.
It was great.
I don't know.
I was talking about fighting games are really good.
No, we were talking about the Dynasty Warriors.
We were talking about like four games in the pack.
But they're the only ones that release like...
He's thinking about those stuff.
Sure.
But I mean, like, there's good Gundam games.
Yes.
We played Unless Dual.
Yeah, that's not a Gundam game.
Motherfuckers.
Super Robot Wars, bitch.
What about it?
Skill my heart.
I want some Jam Project.
Yeah, that Godzilla game is only 40% complete.
But the fact that even in the trailers they're not showing other monsters,
the fact that it might just seem like it's going to be like a building destruction thing, like...
And you're a bad guy who's Godzilla.
Because you're a Japanese evil bad guy, Godzilla.
Like, you know, I'll still buy because I'm a PS3 region.
But man, the footage didn't help its case.
It didn't help it.
It didn't help it.
Still, I'm excited that they're at least making a new big retail game.
They probably had it in the works before, like, you know, a while.
Yeah, yeah, that's right.
The movie comes out when it's like...
This is the right time now.
I just still...
Is it Godzilla's anniversary?
Like, no, it already happened.
It was this year.
It was this year.
Okay, it was this year.
It was the 60th.
Well, it's coming out this year, so...
It's coming out this year.
But I would have been happy just re-scan real steel or the Pacific Rim game and put Godzilla a character.
And that's it.
That's all you can use.
It's real, real, it's fun.
Which would be made by you.
Yeah.
But it would have three characters in it.
Seeing what would be.
You'd have fucking Godzilla, and then you'd have Muto 1 and 2.
No, not based on the movie.
This new game isn't even based on the movie.
It's not based on the movie.
In Japan, Godzilla's all the time every day.
But I'm thinking if you're going to do the thing which the legendary picture is route to...
Oh, no.
He just means re-skin those games.
Re-skin those games.
Okay, because I'm like, they gotta let you know.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Well, the...
But, um...
Hey, speaking of the Pacific Rim game,
do you think there's going to be a new Pacific Rim game alongside Pacific Rim 2?
If we want to jump right into the movies, sure.
Alongside the comic book, alongside the animated series.
And props to Guillermo for just doing it himself.
He's like, I'm going to jump in front of the camera and just tell you directly.
Hey, guys.
Look at me be a huge nerd.
Unless you know Paul Marketing who told me to do that.
Well, me could.
But you know what?
Or a fucking legendary cool guy.
Yeah, Thomas Tull.
Right?
Because he's a big dork.
Because what's awesome is that he gets in front of the camera and does that.
But I also think it's because there's so many bullshit reports going around.
Oh, yeah!
Like the one we reported on this very podcast.
Bullshit.
You know, or like the rumors that they're going to be combining and whatever.
And it's just kind of like, okay.
So we know that they're saying they have things they want to do.
So he's like, you can't mistake it.
It's from my face.
It makes me feel like these rumors, because they're all fairly recent,
have all been kind of like swarming around the fact that there has been talk
of the second one coming around.
And that talk just spread.
I'm super glad there's going to be an animated series.
I'm actually more hyped for that than a new movie is great.
Because we haven't seen any trailers for it.
We haven't seen any trailers.
Is it going to be CG?
Is it going to be like anime styles?
Is it going to be like America?
I think it's going to be the cartoon too, yeah.
I really liked that in the video.
Game of Thrones.
All the wonderful characters from Pacific Rim will return.
I was like, wait, you mean the one wonderful character that died in the first one?
Because, you know, I love Pacific Rim.
But wonderful.
No, remember Raleigh?
I just want to see that trailer start up.
Like Rinko, sure.
I can't believe I remember his damn name.
Yeah.
I want to see that trailer start up and see like Legendary and then like Platinum Madhouse
or like Gainax or like Bones, you know.
That would be great.
I want to see it come up and say Legendary and then I want to say Toho.
But if they're really, clearly they're really gearing up for a gigantic Pacific Rim 2
marking, but I'd like to think that a new game would be a possibility.
I just sincerely hope that we get like a real game and not a movie game.
Yeah, yeah.
With the animated show, that's now much bigger possible.
Yeah, exactly.
Because it means they're not because it's based on the animated show,
because it means they're putting out lots of different shit.
Assets, assets will be made.
They're just finished to be done.
But I just hope we get a real game this time.
Yeah, yeah.
Well, I liked the last one, but not a licensed game.
Yeah, another game.
Who do you want to make that?
Pacific Rim 2.
All our brothers, Montreal.
Oh, nice.
Concepts.
Sure.
Sure?
No.
Because it looks like they're doing a pretty good job on Mighty No. 9.
Yeah, that's it.
Why doesn't this look like the concept art?
This game looks so bad.
I don't think Comcept has made the game internally yet.
No, it is.
And they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they're designers from Mighty No. 9.
Designers for Soul Sacrifice.
They're designers for King of Pirates.
Wow.
OK, I guess I.
I'd super confused the rules there or not.
I guess I'll make the Enticprüades, gunvolt.
Yes.
He's just been in the, they just do
the planning phase and then they get these things.
They are the production.
But they're non-programmers.
OK.
Production includes development.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So then they're not production.
Sorry, when I mean production, I mean like a producer.
Yeah.
OK.
Because a producer doesn't sit there and program.
Yes, but.
Pre-production, it would be post-production.
They're the pre-production guys and then in production it would be.
Well, because they also, no, because they also follow it
during production.
So what do I call that?
Producers.
They're the producers, I guess.
Not development.
I'm more of an idea guy.
I didn't say development.
Maybe Cool of Me Yamoto was the one that took that MET game at E3
and made that episode.
Yo, God.
Did you imagine?
That would be funny.
Wow.
But yeah, that might be number nine.
That trailer was pretty cool, man.
Because that's the trailer that I'm like, OK,
now you're showing me that dashing is
integral and constant.
It's going to feel like an X game.
Not just a thing you do if you want.
It's going to be a big part of the game.
Wait, one more is dashing through enemies and stuff?
But like, and like through enemies and using it to dodge things,
to dodge obstacles.
Do you have to listen to this news?
Because that came out like a new one.
No, no, no.
This is a new trailer.
Oh, you're talking about the new, new one.
Yes.
And at the same time as this trailer,
an Azure Striker gunvolt trailer also popped up,
which shows off that game's main mechanics as well.
Yeah, it's kind of similar.
It's interesting.
Because again, you're like, oh, look,
it's the other revival of Mega Man.
But it's a different system where like,
you're not shooting dudes to kill them.
You target them and then you do your gunvolt.
To me, 100% Frank, I love Mighty Number Nine.
But like, if you're going to compare the both visually,
like, gunvolt looks way better.
Well, it's got sprites.
It's got sprites.
It's got sprites.
It's got sprites, that's what I'm saying.
I'm super looking forward to both of them.
No, looking forward to both.
But like, we're side by side.
I was like, oh, this, like, I get more of a nostalgic feeling
looking at gunvolt than they do when we're number nine.
Mighty Number Nine, more than any other Kickstarter game
I've ever seen, seems to have the largest influx of backers
that don't understand how games are made.
We talked about this a little bit
when that first gameplay trailer came out.
But it's happened every time.
Because Mega Man spreads wide and thin.
Yes.
Because like, all these Kickstarter games,
you always see Prototype and Vayne at 20.
We play them once, you know, it's about Mega Man.
And Mighty Number Nine, like, the alpha stuff,
like, that's how alphas look.
People are losing it.
Well, because every one of them wanted that also
for the Double Fine Adventure Kickstarter,
as it was made at the time.
Yeah.
Where people would just, like, slam the game
for being made to them to be what it all is.
Everyone that you know that's into games and stuff
is like super on board with this.
And we're all there, for sure.
But then, there's the people that go way further
than that on the peripheries that, like,
don't know about any of the shit.
Mighty Number Nine to get 4 million dollars
was more than just hardcore gamers.
Exactly.
It was like really casual people.
Those Kickstarter campaigns hang outside
of the game industry.
Well, and even then, there's hardcore people
who go home and play games every night,
but they don't follow the news to the hour,
like we do.
Yeah, no, no, no.
But it's, but I think people that look
at visuals see sprites and go fuck this.
They don't even, they might not even
really understand what a Kickstarter was supposed to be.
Like, we don't have the game yet.
Like, I don't know, here's my money to release the game.
Yeah, I'm fully aware that there are a lot of people out there
that don't know that games look like complete garbage
up until, like, right before they come out.
But, like, it seems like it's so concentrated
around money every night.
And you can't say just explain it to them
because it's right there.
They just don't sign it.
Oh, whatever.
It'll come out.
It'll be great.
People will forget.
I hope so.
Their comments will be lost in the annals of time.
I bet you if you dig, you can go find some people
talking shit about Shovel Knight.
Oh, yeah.
Well, there was those two reviews that were like,
fuck this game.
We're not even dignifying those with a place on the docker.
Sure.
So we're moving on.
The fucking, it's funny because the official
Why is it Shovel Knight in 3D though?
Well, they tease out the interview like we'd like
to make a Super Shovel Knight
or a Shovel Knight 64, but of course,
make it look a lot better than N64 games.
Though I saw another interview like they got posted today
that at the end of the interview, he's like,
we don't want to be known as the Shovel Knight.
Yeah, we want to make some other stuff too.
We want to do all the stuff.
Which is good.
On and off to Michalis.
They'll make it 3D.
But I really like that.
Michalis won't make anything.
They're just publishers.
Yeah.
They also said that Shovel Knight does are also like,
yeah, we got a lot of game left to make.
They got a lot of me.
We got like the three.
Did you read about how the three playable bosses,
like how they're thinking and how they're going to work?
I did not.
How?
Because I want to know.
Because I want to play them.
Plague Knight would be like, how about you?
Start that sentence with what if Plague Knight?
Oh, yeah.
Sorry.
What if when you take Plague Knight
and you go into the Explodatorium or whatever
and it has all those sand bits that remember that just crumbled,
how about he uses them as currency?
He draws stuff from them.
When you break a sand block, you get resources.
How about Specter Knight is constantly dying
and you have to keep attacking to keep your life up.
That's cool.
I mean, these are all what if...
That's fun stuff.
But that's the type of thing.
But banks, that's how far along they're going.
For me, it looks.
My favorite one was the King Knight one.
The King Knight.
How about King Knight be much easier than Shovel Knight,
but it'd be like this grand, silly adventure,
like all his story stuff.
And it's like the other two knights are for people that
like name or someone that's like,
the game could be a bit harder.
But then we also have comments of people like this game's
I can't even beat the second stage.
So that's why you give them King Knight playable
to make it easier.
And then these two bosses to make them harder or different.
And King Knight's just getting really good.
Yeah.
Was there something else I was missing of that?
It was mostly just like,
there's a lot to add to this fucking game.
We're not done yet.
That all sounds fine and dandy,
but I think the most important thing is that
if you're playing as King Knight
and when you get to the end of King Knight's stage,
you just fight Shovel Knight.
Yeah, yeah.
That'd be fun.
Or when he dreams in between stages.
I don't even care, he dreams of just jewels.
He dreams of everyone just the plotting for him.
I don't even care if they just re-skinned Black Knight.
But I just want to fight so much better.
Yeah, no, we gotta get destroyed.
Yeah.
Yeah, no, where I was originally going though was the
MGS trailer dropped as we saw it E3.
Which one, sorry?
The MGS trailer dropped and then there's the half an hour
gameplay.
I still watched that.
Do it and go to, I forgot the site,
but it has, there's a 60 FPS full story.
Yeah, yeah, there's a video, I saw it and I was like,
oh, I want to get that one.
Yeah, that is beautiful.
I watched it again this morning.
Awesome, yeah.
Can't wait for that game.
Yes.
I think I'm soon enough.
And like, well, I'm gonna wait.
Well, you can't wait.
And I will keep playing Ground Zeroes until then.
You along with the likes of various big Hollywood bigwigs
because they lay on their site,
they got a bunch of guys to put some comments.
Like, I guess it's because Kojima's rubbing elbows
with Hollywood now.
A little bit more since that Metal Gear movie
still has no forward traction at all
and will probably never get made,
just like the last seven times it's been attempted.
Which, which, would that really be a bad thing?
Honestly, like, I'd still like to see them fail.
Just go read the book again.
Yeah, yeah, Matt.
I agree with you.
I would love to see them fail.
But I don't want to not see them fail
or not see them succeed.
I'd rather see them succeed.
You'd rather buy them out of me.
There's a morbid part of my, my soul
that wants to see Metal Gear turn into
like the Resident Evil series.
Yeah, no, I do too.
Oh, God, I couldn't.
And it's so much better suited down to on it.
Yeah, yeah, I know you totally know.
I couldn't handle it.
I couldn't handle it.
No, you would handle it.
You would, though.
You would handle it gladly.
You would juggle those balls.
Yeah, it sounds like, oh, I wish.
It sounds like, like, Kojima, you know,
and now he's friends with Kiefer,
Kiefer's on board and everything.
Oh, so he got the director of Drive?
So, you've got...
Various, various.
Sorry, I got excited.
No, but like, they got a bunch of people
to sit and watch the trailer
and just give their feedback,
including Avi Arad, film producer, Spider-Man, X-Men,
and the guy that's producing the Metal Gear movie.
But Avi Arad is also the guy
that produced all the movies of the Marvel
in the Dark Ages,
when almost all of them were bad,
say, for an occasional Spider-Man or X-Men.
So, and they, you know,
and they got Nicholas Wending Refn to talk about it,
who's the guy that directed Drive as well.
And of course, the classic
only God forgives.
You know, Guillermo had some good words as well.
I love how Guillermo's quote is really small
compared to like the other two, yeah.
Because he's just like,
I've been a fan and this shit's inspirational to me,
you know, like that's pretty much it.
Chanwook Park, man.
Ooh, that's good.
Guy that directed Old Boy and Stoker
and all the good shit that I'm in love with,
you know, they got Norman Reedus.
Am I missing something,
or is this just famous people saw the trailer?
Yeah, that's what it is.
It goes further than that.
There's quotes from them about how they liked it.
Yeah, there is.
I have the quotes.
I have the quotes.
I wasn't going to read them specifically.
Oh, I thought you were going to go into
how they were overwhelmingly positive
ordering on parody.
Well, what, no, what I was going to say is that, like,
it's just, it's a little bit weird
because they're basically watching a trailer
that Kojima cut himself
because he cut the Revengeance trailer at the end.
Oh, okay, of course.
He does this thing.
He's a trailer master.
Yeah, he's a shit-trailers.
But, like, it kind of was like,
it's like, what was the point of this whole thing?
That's what you're going for,
because, like, I'm sitting here.
I know why the point is,
the point is to draw up interest
to get that movie made
because no one has given the financing.
I don't think so.
I think it's the answer.
You think it's for the movie?
You're not.
It's all about the game.
The fact that it had the producer of the movie
being quoted in other movies, guys,
that's so crazy you might just be right.
Because it doesn't need this for the game.
You mean that movie that's never gonna get made?
But they're trying to do this
to make Hollywood feel that there's, like,
That's so crazy you might be right.
I don't know.
Because they're not talking about,
like, if they didn't sit down
and beat the Phantom Pain and give their feedback,
they're just talking about the trailer.
Doesn't matter.
Any characters could know.
Look how great this is for an adaptation.
But it's like we sent the trailer out
to a bunch of big shots
and got them to say what they thought.
Is there a reedus walking dead?
Walking dead.
Goondock Saints.
Hey, this Kojima guy's pretty good.
You hire him nine to five to make our movie trailers.
And, I mean, like, it's, or at the very least,
like, they reach out to people like Kojima's a fan of.
Perhaps.
You know what I mean?
Like, I don't know.
This is a very strange list.
I just find that the time,
he said they never did anything like this before
with any of the other prior Metal Gears.
And, like, now they're starting to try to get this
to be off the ground.
Let's, let's, I think Kojima's just gone,
like, he's Hollywood rubbin' there.
Yeah, I was about to say, let's keep it.
Let's keep in mind the possibility
that this is all just, like, a puff thing.
It's like, I want to go hang out with Hollywood people.
I really think so, because he's taking pictures
hanging out with Hollywood people.
I think so.
And he's talking to a cave.
So let's no longer dignify this with, like, news.
Because it's, it's.
I, I, then you see David.
It's loaded in a corner crying.
Yeah.
I think it's just Konami PR, honestly.
Like, games are a very different world
than they were in 2008 when MGS4 came out.
And the style of marketing for MGS5
has to be the most bombastic thing they can afford.
I think Kojima's gearing himself up to be, like,
maybe I'll try my hand at a film.
I, I mean.
Why doesn't he just make the fucking movie?
You know, like, those, those, because it's been a slow,
it's been a slow, like, collection of him hanging out
with those guys, to him, like.
Did you just forget to play Peace Walker?
Where it was, like, gameplay, gameplay, gameplay?
No, what I, I'm talking, I'm talking about, like,
him making that stuff in Japan on his own
with his team, versus now being in America
and constantly talking to people in Hollywood.
He was not doing that as much before as he is now.
And so, like, I don't know that, like, perhaps.
It's a different world, perhaps.
Twitter exists now, you know, like.
I know, but there was no snake eater promos
with fucking, the Schwarzenegger talking about
how awesome it is, or Kurt Russell being like,
hey look, this is really cool.
Three last gen PS3 360 companies
didn't know how to market games.
They still don't, they still don't.
But, but, but, but, but film and celebrity involvement.
Obviously it was no world of marketing.
Paul's getting a lot of work lately.
Okay, but Liam, but what's another game
that markets in this, if it's just the times,
then what's another game that's doing this?
I can't think of one.
Well, every game has a super bombastic.
No, no, that's doing this Hollywood involvement thing.
Having Hollywood, what's around it.
Because if you're saying it's normal,
what's another example of this?
What's another game half as cinematic as this?
Last of Us, Uncharted.
Beyond Two Souls.
Beyond Two Souls.
That's, they got people in the thing.
Sure.
Being in the, but I don't, I don't,
I don't remember like quotes from directors talking about the trailer.
I don't see the point at which it's like,
I just think Kojima is, Kojima is like
going and hanging out with friends.
I think it's just part of MGS5's big elaborate PR wheel,
which is going to be huge because Konami has to hit
like a fucking home run on a bankrupt.
I'm not pulling that out of nowhere.
I'm thinking of like, oh look,
we see Kojima and Guillermo del Toro hanging out
for no particular reason.
But this is, but this is tabloid shit.
Yeah, who cares?
That's tabloid journalism.
Like would you take a picture of someone on the street
and you say, oh look at them?
No, no, they took a photo together, a promotional one.
But, but who gives a shit?
Who cares?
Who gives a fucking shit?
Like I'm sitting here like,
man Guillermo del Toro hung out with Kojima.
What does this mean?
It means nothing.
Or a case of that.
Like, relax dude.
I'm just looking at it like, it was an odd thing that I saw.
Is Beyonce's baby bump faked?
No, it's Metal Gear Solid 5 and like a bunch of Hollywood stuff.
But it's not.
It's just an event.
It's like, would you, would you,
what a news article about like,
Kojima invited a bunch of people from the music industry
to dinner and told them about Metal Gear.
I would talk about that.
I just think it's curious because I've never,
I can't think of any other video games that are doing this.
I'm like, what are they trying to accomplish?
And it's a discussion thing that I'm like,
what do you guys think?
Well, that's what I said, MGS5.
I think it's just MGS5.
I think that's right, I think that's right.
And it's for drumming up support for the movie
that's never gonna come out.
Cool, all right.
I just thought it was worthy of discussion.
Remember that movie was announced to start
during that 25th anniversary Metal Gear thing.
That was a long fucking time ago.
Yeah, it really was.
It's weird.
Okay, fine.
We can move on.
I'm sorry, I just ate that tabloid celebrity shit.
I can't stand it.
But the point of me bringing it up
wasn't who he's fucking sleeping with or whatever.
It was a video game website did a thing.
I saw this as different.
I've never seen this before.
And what do you guys think this means?
I would actually really like to know
who could you be sleeping with?
Because every time he's done, he goes, did you write it?
Yeah, exactly.
Okay, no one ever was gonna send back that?
Okay, fine.
I didn't do anything.
That's what that means.
You did a good job, man.
Thank you.
Hey, Primal Rage 2 exists.
Does that?
Let's go play it.
I'm tired of this fucking tabloid bullshit.
I know.
It's Primal Rage 2.
God, what dinosaur is sleeping with what is this fucking?
Are you serious?
Is Venom's baby bunk real?
Why do you guys think such nonsense about this?
You didn't scream at will you?
Or lose it over a story that we were discussing things over.
It was kind of weird.
Is there a wrong note yet?
There is no wrong.
There's two working cabinets.
And I remember way back in the day,
we had screenshots of the first one.
And it was the idea of there's humans,
but they turn into the dinosaurs or whatever.
The gods.
But it was always just the only one that has this
is the guy who made it.
Who's going to sacrifice the board so we can have a wrong?
Well, not the, not the, they're not going to sacrifice shit
because they're making money.
Isn't the board like insanely rare?
They're making money on this Primal Rage 2 cabinet.
It's a working PCP that they have set up
with all their other arcade machines.
People are actually actively putting money in the machine.
Why?
Like you run it.
Maybe it's just attracting customers or whatever.
They set up a stream where you go play it
and you are on stream playing like Primal Rage 2.
That's all they're making all the footage at once.
Why on earth would they put it up for fucking download?
I know.
And like no way.
Well, they can put it up for download after a certain point.
But they won't.
I would know if there is any.
Okay.
I hope they do it.
It's a prize.
I always thought it was weird that Primal Rage didn't
actually get that like official sequel like fully made.
It was 80% done.
Because the Primal Rage like,
I don't know how well it's sold,
but it came out on every fucking system ever.
And like I remember just everyone talking about Primal Rage.
It was everywhere.
Primal Rage was so cool.
Whatever was like the new Mortal Kombat for a little time.
So it always struck me as odd that they was...
And it also was one of those things where like the
claymation like style, man, does that not downport well.
I thought you were going to say, man, that does,
that ages really well.
That is just...
It is super well.
What are you talking about?
That's like Snow White.
No, I mean like it doesn't, like it does, but it doesn't.
And you play playfighter 63 and a third.
Doesn't that look super good?
Looks sharp.
Looks sharp.
Looks sharp.
That's the last thing it looked.
Yeah, but you're wide.
Like I was watching a bunch of footage of this
and it's interesting because it seems like
they really just kind of not, not backpedaled,
but they went like, yeah, you can still,
you can turn it to the dinosaur for just like your supers.
You don't really stay as the dinosaur.
It's a human on human fighting game.
They have a lot of humans,
but there are some characters that are always dinosaurs.
Like characters from the first game,
but everyone that's new, which is the majority of the cast,
is a human that can turn into one of the characters.
Yeah, yeah.
And like, it's interesting because like you look at it
and you're like, this still looks way better
than the first one did.
Yeah, not hard.
But then it's like, we never really got a perfect port.
I don't think anything got a perfect port.
There was a Saturn or a PlayStation ports
that were pretty good, but every bit,
none of us had a Saturn or a PlayStation.
I think at the time right now, we did.
But like we have to make do with Genesis and Super Nintendo,
which were terrible.
There's a Sega CD port,
which looks worse than the Genesis port.
Really?
How? How?
Because it's all in the Sega CD.
But that's making sense.
It has less colors than the Genesis.
What?
And what?
Why?
I don't even believe that.
I know.
I bet you the loading time was double as well.
I'm pretty sure.
Fuck.
But it was sacrificed for the CD or whatever.
Dude, it wasn't worth it.
Weird.
It was a bad deal.
The Sega CD wasn't worth it.
I'm calling it now.
No, no, we don't have to get a 32X.
Yes, you are.
Okay, 32X.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I'm calling it now.
The 32X was not worth it.
That also wasn't worth it.
Timely, timely.
Still, I'm looking at this game.
Tear, like, I play this, you know?
I'm playing it as a curiosity.
Yeah.
Same, definitely.
There's a character that does doing, like,
some of Eleanor's moves before they existed.
So, Galpin Ghost, if you're listening,
just mail over that PCB.
We got a cabinet to hook it up to.
It's kind of frying though.
We can hook it up to up to it.
Fix it.
We can hook the cabinet up to our autobloat, too,
as we play.
There we go.
I don't want to open up the back of my cabinet
unless I electrocute myself and die.
Is that still just as horrifying as it always was?
I don't know.
I don't know enough.
I don't know how to fix tubes.
Every time I hear about opening up
the back of an arcade cabinet,
it's always, round yourself on this,
and don't touch that or else you'll die.
Everything below the monitor, I'm fine.
I can work the PCBs and power supplies and shit.
I don't know anything about the actual speed.
And, like, unplugging it isn't good enough.
It's a retain enough charge to kill you.
So, like, I need to call a guy in
with rubber boots and gloves to go back there.
Hope he doesn't die because then you'll need another guy.
Yeah.
And you'll need a guy to help the dead guy.
Exactly.
And you'll get that, too.
Not a good time.
There's the people.
Have Garcy and the Smith come and take all these bodies away.
Third strike's worth it, but fuck.
And speaking of arcade machines and whatnot,
like, in a move that I don't know...
I don't know one.
I don't know how it took so long for this to happen.
But you might have seen this.
There's the Sanua Street Fighter themed push buttons
and, like, ball tops and stuff that you can put into your stick.
Yeah.
And I'm just like, where the fuck was this like 12 years ago?
Yeah, exactly.
Not even four.
That literally strikes me as just no one thought about it.
No one thought about it.
It makes no sense.
Yeah, it blows my mind.
It's like, and they're like cool little things
with cute little character faces of, you know,
but take your six favorite Street Fighters
and, like, whoever you like on the ball.
Come on, Sean.
He was looking at his stick and thinking hard about it.
And he was like, you know, I own these characters now.
I can do this.
I want Zangief's crotch to be the ball.
Strategically placed.
Strategically placed.
I mean, Rocky wanted his custom stick
with, like, Sean's basketballs.
Yeah, and I was like, that's the dumbest thing
anyone's ever asked for and who would want that, right?
I'm not going to turn down a commission back then.
Groff still has Sean players out there repping.
Yeah.
Yeah, Rocky.
Keep at it.
It'll pay off one day.
Yeah, pretty good with Sean, though.
No, no, no, I mean for Sean.
Oh, yeah.
Oh, yeah.
So I remember I was like 15 wins to one.
That's pretty good.
And he would take Sean every time.
He's like, no, this time, though.
This time, this time we'll get to him.
That sounds like him.
Um.
Now he's playing that Clash of Clans.
The Odd Gentleman has announced two new games
they're working on.
Who's that again?
The developers of PB Winter Bottom.
Oh, really?
Yeah, I have that game.
Yeah.
Yes.
Which games were they that they announced?
They're working on a Neil Gaiman game.
Okay.
Um, called, uh, shit.
I used up all my available knowledge.
What's, what's, what's you got?
That's not, not quite.
No, not, not.
Mr. Sandman.
Give us a dream.
Duh, duh, duh, duh.
Wow.
Make him the cutest that I've ever seen.
I was a punch out.
I know.
Um.
Sandman and punch out.
Mr. Sandman.
Oh, right.
It's Mr. Sandman.
It's Mike Tyson.
And it's, it's that way because he puts you to sleep.
Mr. Dream.
Mr. Dream.
Mr. Dream.
The game's called Wayward Manor.
Wayward Manor.
Yeah.
Oh, can you hear about this?
So it's his debut jumping into, into the games world
how that's going to work out.
Cause I know you're thinking he might have been attached to something in the past,
but I think it got canceled or never happened.
But I vaguely recall something as well.
Right.
Uh, and the other thing he's working on is the Homestuck game.
What?
Yeah.
The one that's been in, in development.
Something.
There was a Kickstarter Homestuck game.
I thought Homestuck was a game.
No.
It's a white comic.
It's a comic.
Experience.
But it's highly tied to video games thematically.
But I went to Homestuck and there was like a text prompt.
Oh, but you don't have a choice.
It's, it's, it's a webcomic that delivers its format in interactive ways.
It's cross media events.
You ever go to those XKCD special like issues where it's like typing what you want to say here?
No.
In the, oh you haven't been there recently I guess.
I stopped reading one.
Okay.
There's some, there's some crazy XKCDs that are like interactive and stuff.
And it kind of reminds me a bit of that.
A lot of Homestuck people have little double horns.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So really that's the, yeah.
We are them.
Yeah, we are them apparently.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah, that Homestuck game.
I know a lot of people who backed that.
So apparently a lot of people found out about you guys through that crossover video.
Which is weird because I still don't understand it.
I understand it a little bit more.
But I saw it was like, that's when I went to Homestuck and I like, I failed to read it.
Is that like, asking me to enter a text prompt or do something and I didn't do it good?
And I wasn't allowed to read it.
No.
You have to read it good.
I never, oh.
Yeah, it's a curious thing.
Yeah, it's a curious thing.
But yeah, they had a Kickstarter campaign and they made two million.
Developers confirmed that.
Two million, wow.
They made two million.
Homestuck.
Yeah.
The old gentleman's going to be behind it.
Yeah.
No, I know like my sisters who don't fucking play half of games ever.
They backed it for like 80 bucks together.
So yeah, Homestuck, big money there.
Well, what I'm not sure about, and I guess I could have just looked into it a bit more before bringing it out.
But like, did they raise the money out before the old gentleman got involved and then approached them later?
I believe there was no developer listed.
At the time.
Okay, so they got them on board.
For some reason, I feel like they were working with Shifty Look, the western Namco guys.
They got shut down recently.
It is a great name.
Um, for some reason, I feel like they were working with Shifty Look or someone from Shifty Look was involved.
But I don't think there was ever a dev like these guys.
Okay.
So no, I'm not sure.
Speaking of Namco.
It was the Homestuck guy working for Shifty Look, not the other way around.
Speaking of Namco.
Hey, Willie, how about that Afro Samurai 2 being announced for video games?
How about you shutting the fuck up?
Oh.
Full playthrough coming soon.
That was a good conversation, guys.
Good hustle.
Because I'm sure he didn't have it down there.
Yeah.
Someone got it.
It's a relevant week.
I'd rather talk about Insomniac's Strange Experimental Project.
Slow Bowl.
Or Slow Down Bowl.
Slow Down Bowl.
They announced there was this other game they were working on and basically it was like.
Is it for iOS?
We wanted to try something.
I don't think they didn't give any details on that yet.
But it was like, we wanted to try something out.
How few people would it take for us to make a good game on Insomniac?
How few Insomniacs would be called Insomniacs?
Is it a game about giving meth to bowls and then trying to convince the bowl to slow down?
No, you're above it.
That you're calm and you try to keep him peaceful because when he gets crazy and raged.
Wait, is that actually the case?
That's actually the case.
So I was right.
He blows stuff up and he ramps it.
Yeah, give meth to bowls.
Don't give meth to bowls.
There's no downside.
Cook meth in your own house, which is totally safe.
And then give it to random bowls that are around your house for some reason.
Inevitably around your house.
Yeah.
And is there doing an open dev thing where they're like.
It's like anyone can just jump in.
Well, it's like as they're making it, they're going to like just tell you everything about
what's going on.
Show you the concepts and show you the.
Sure.
It's like like legends three kind of.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
When they have the dev room, it's just like your students.
Right.
Right.
Exactly.
Exactly.
But hopefully they're not expecting the fans to make the game this time around.
No, but that that one dude on Twitter didn't make it sound great.
He was the worst.
God damn it.
God damn it.
Afros, am I too?
I feel like you're getting hurt retroactively.
Shut up and talk about Predator.
I feel what you're feeling.
I'll talk about that though and talk about Predator though.
We'll talk about Predator though.
Like first of all, you dropped the six of us in the meat grinder and tell us about what
we're getting into.
You said we're going to save some cash.
Oh, you want me to talk about Predator news?
This is bullshit.
Bullshit all of it.
No, okay.
You set us up?
Set us up?
No, actually, I couldn't just do this all day.
Yeah, I know.
Just saying one day I'll do the rest of it anyway.
Let off some steam, bet it.
Close, but no cigar.
A lot of people link this to us on our Facebook or Tumblr or whatever.
It was just like, hey, a new Predator was announced and this new Predator announced it
says Predator reboot and it's being written and directed by Shane Black who wrote and
directed Iron Man 3.
And Iron Man 3 has got some funky little…
Is he also the director of Leaf 11?
He was the writer of all the Leaf 11.
Okay, good.
All of the Leaf 11.
As well as Kiss, Kiss, Bang, Bang.
He was the writer-director of that, which is a fucking great movie.
And oddly enough, he also played Hawkins in Predator, the one that's like,
geez, you got a big pussy.
Geez, you got a big pussy.
Right.
And his girlfriend asked…
This is the echo.
Why did you say that twice?
I just said I did it.
I did it.
Yeah, so there's that…
Wait a minute, ruin the punchline there, Pat.
So he's in Hawkins.
Predator's good movie.
He played Hawkins as well and then they announced like, oh, it's going to be a Predator reboot
and he's going to do a really good job.
It's going to be great.
And I went, oh, all right, reboot.
I don't think you needed to because the last film was like open-ended thing.
The last film is all about how you could just do this story forever with no plot.
Yeah.
That's one thing that you can't really do with aliens is because aliens are an
animalistic race and there can only be input in so many scenarios.
And aliens aren't going to build a spaceship and fly to Earth.
Not really.
But now you can put aliens on Earth, though.
And then when you try to tell the alien story about how they got there,
you fuck it up super hard to make it terrible.
So anyway, I can't imagine, like, how do you tell that properly?
I guess the comics is the closest thing to a decent version.
What, for Predator or Alien?
Alien.
Well, you don't tell it by doing Prometheus.
Anyway, then it was announced three days later.
The director went, no, I'm not making a reboot.
This is a fucking sequel.
Oh, good.
Yeah.
And he's like, I don't know how that happened.
Sequel to what?
And he goes, this is a character in a world that has so much untapped places
that it could be a sequel to any of them or none of them.
I want a sequel to the Predator 2.
Because for a second, I was going to invite you to Crissey.
Predators can be a sequel to that.
Yeah, I know.
But I want Danny Glover to be in it.
You want Danny Glover to be in it?
I want him to be old and be like, oh.
And it still had that old pistol that the old company gave him?
Oh, he went through that shit.
I'm too old for it now.
I think when the word reboot comes out for a series like this,
or if you don't need one.
Especially when we had like a new fresh entry.
All it means to me, or at least because thank God it's a rumor,
but all it means to me is like, oh, we want to redesign the monster.
Yeah, that's what you bring back.
I don't think there's any.
I don't think anyone at Fox is stupid enough to then fully redesign the alien or the Predator.
Yeah.
Like stuck around for a while because they're fucking cool.
I could see people fucking around with the Predator.
The Xenomorph.
You can make difference.
One of them, but you still keep the whole world alive.
That's what I was going like.
The Xenomorph, if you have an off-shoot weird version, that's fine.
All the off-shoot weird versions look like goddamn shit.
Like all the ones in the comics that weren't the standard alien.
They all look fucking stupid.
Maybe the gorilla ones that would shoot ass in.
I had the toys.
Or the Scorpion ones that just exploded.
Or the Bull ones.
They were terrible.
It's like, I have all these toys.
Shut up.
But they would look stupid on film.
They would.
What do you think about the weird creature at the end of Hermitius?
What weird creature?
Which one?
There's five.
The one that looked like a Xenomorph.
That looks like shit.
It looks like shit.
Looks like total shit.
It wasn't great.
No, it wasn't great.
Now, it's the mission returns, but it's like the Xenomorph is a hard design to top.
To be perfectly fucking honest.
He can't top it now because Geiger's fucking dead.
Yeah, he can't top it now.
I mean, well, the alien queen was not designed by Geiger.
We pronounce it wrong, but a lot of people say it.
They have?
Not like a guy to do it.
Which are eager.
Okay.
Oh.
There's no E.
Shit.
It's kind of like a nightmare.
Oh, shit.
You're right.
There is no E.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So I'm really psyched for this because I think that like Shane Black, and he has a
like that good stuff to his name.
And especially as a writer, like he wrote all the lethal weapons.
And I was like, full name like Shane Black.
That's a great name.
Right.
That's his real fucking name.
That's a great name.
So I'm super psyched.
Like, I'm like the Godzilla gamer.
I'm like, eh, I'm like, whatever.
I'm down.
I believe in Shane Black.
That's good.
Yeah.
I'll vote for them.
Jack Black is a cool name too.
Yeah, Jack Black.
And it still can't be left in the world.
Jack Black's cool enough to make me think it's...
I wish he would be cool again.
Instead of being like...
I don't know.
I always felt like Jack Black was cool because he was so lame.
Yeah, exactly.
Like, he's somehow fooled his way into becoming a rock star.
And he knows it.
You know, he knows it.
Yeah.
Did you play Broken Age?
He's good at not.
I did not.
Well, play it.
It's good.
I bought it.
Oh, good.
Go beat it in an hour or two.
Can I?
Yeah.
Two hours.
Wow.
You can beat it in the time it takes us to give a word from our sponsors.
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Wait, Willie.
What?
Loot Crate.
It's a line opener.
Loot words.
Crates.
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Okay.
I know both of those words.
One is a collection of good stuff, possibly that I may want to.
You're going to have to hit the ground running.
You're going to have to get good right now.
Quicker.
Because we got the box.
Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
We got the box.
And I opened it up.
And the box for this month was Transformers themed.
What about Transformers?
Not Transformers.
Oh, Transformers of your girls.
Curses.
It was Transformers.
All right, yeah.
Julie, this credit will be more than me.
It's the eye.
I hate it.
That's funny.
Oh, no, it's hilarious.
No, it's not.
You're just mad that you didn't.
Don't tell me it's hilarious.
It is.
I can see that it's hilarious.
So, when I opened up the box, I was greeted with a bunch of Transformers goodies.
There was a nice Marty McPrime t-shirt that was back to the future.
Oh, I've seen that t-shirt on various t-shirts sites.
There was a small mini vinyl figure.
And I checked it out.
And you can get, like, it's a random transform you get inside exactly.
So, you can get a bumblebee or a Starscream or, you know, whatever in there.
Why would you get bumblebee over Starscream?
Over Starscream?
You get what you get to random.
You know, Starscream shirts are the fucking jet, though.
You have to pray to Primus that you get Starscream.
Pray to Primus.
No, pray to the Matrix.
No, to the All-Spark.
Well, Primus is who you want to put you to.
The Autobot leadership of Matrix is real.
The All-Spark is fake.
Pray to Shia LaVouffe.
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
But yeah, no, so there's Transformers theme.
There was also some, like, mini Transformers toy goodies as well.
That's right.
And lots of good stuff in there.
And was there a Transformer in it?
There was many Transformers.
Oh, like a real Transformer.
Inside the box?
No, the box itself was not a Transformer.
Oh, could you get one of Sally's tapes?
That can fit in the box.
That would have been bad.
It would be a Transformer.
Yeah, yeah.
So, no, then.
No, not quite.
But I was looking at this and thinking, you know, after you come back from that
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Transformers in this Loot Crate box?
Oh, oh, they ruined you.
But you're safe now here with me.
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You guys are tandeming it.
This is really interesting.
All of us.
Yeah, not bad.
Not bad.
Like you can mel together to make them like dynamite and become a larger transform.
Combined to make best friends.
It always drove me nuts that the Dinobots like didn't transform into a giant dinosaur robot.
They transformed into a giant dude.
Shut up.
Like Constructicon made sense.
Bruticus.
I like my childhood.
Constructicon was way cooler.
Don't criticize my transformers.
And combined to form Bruticus.
That's the big robots.
Oh, you're right.
Right.
The unit of guys is the fucking.
My, my first.
I'm a Transformers nerd.
Oh, okay.
Fine.
Fine.
Yeah.
It's been, it's been like 20 years since I walked.
Fair enough.
Thanks, Loot Crate.
Thank you, Loot Crate.
No, thank you, Pat.
Fuck you.
Uh, before we hit letter time, apparently there's been some breaking news.
You guys were talking about?
Uh, if we uh,
has decided that it,
that people aren't going to buy its games.
I asked Pat if anything broke.
So they're going to go on a subscription model,
60 bucks a year.
Which is really interesting, frankly.
And then Liam reading the topic found developer tweets going,
wait, what?
One developer tweet, Mike Bethel, who made uh,
Thomas was alone and he's on volume now,
saying we never got told this.
Granted, the story may have evolved since then,
but I wonder if it'll work.
I wonder too.
As long as everyone gets paid fine, I'll be okay with it.
Let me ask you, let me ask you no,
but like for work well for the OUIA.
Like you have an OUIA and you've defended it.
How much money have you spent on it total?
I went over this the other day because I was wondering this myself.
I spent a total of like $47 on that.
Over what period of time?
It must have been almost a year.
Okay, so.
Granted, the games cost like $2 to $10 tops.
As an OUIA owner and user,
would you consider that a fair price for the OUIA library?
$60 for everything, it's a steal.
A year?
Really?
Yeah.
Just, just on a couple of them,
like broken age, tower fall,
that dragon cancer is coming out within the next year.
Amazing frog.
That dragon cancer looks like a really good game.
If you haven't heard of it,
if you haven't heard of it, you're too surface.
What's it called?
Oh, we're too surface bad.
That dragon comma space cancer.
Okay.
It doesn't matter.
It looks like a really good game.
It's a terrible title, that's all.
Whatever it's about, dragon cancer.
It's a relevant game.
There's a lot, there's definitely games worth that.
So the idea, the idea is it's like a Netflix of video games.
Yeah, exactly.
Which just picks up a lot of things.
It's really curious,
because nobody's ever done this kind of thing on their own.
Or convinced as many people to get on board.
Yeah.
The only other platform I could think of did this was online,
but it was different, where it had a selection,
that they kind of jerry picked.
And Sony wants to do that PS Now stuff with the rental thing,
and that just looks like the worst God damn shit ever.
Yeah, those prices are terrible.
Like, egregious.
I mean, yeah.
I mean, like when that stuff comes out,
they got to put out the like, test this in your region.
Yeah.
First, see what happens, and then you'll know.
No, I'm curious.
It's like the Netflix for video games is a cool idea, but like,
in practice.
I can't see any price having the selection you want,
and also being worthwhile.
I also can't see it.
Especially just talking about how my Netflix has a crap selection.
Oh, and speaking about like, video and streaming and shit.
Hey, how about that 60 frames per second on YouTube now?
I know, right?
Yeah, I know, right?
I wish our capture gear recorded at 60 frames a second.
Which is the time to kickstart 2BF capture though.
2BF 60.
No, straight up, like we can't record at that.
So not yet.
Sorry.
Not yet.
I can record PC stuff at that, but it's very intensive.
Like older games, yeah.
Yes, we also would have a fucking...
We'd have to get one of those expensive ever media things.
And we need new computers to edit that shit.
No, not me.
Not you.
Not you.
Not you.
Back it has anything.
Yeah.
Great.
So all editing duties will follow on me from now on for all videos.
Good work, Pat.
Thanks, YouTube.
Sick.
I don't know, 60 FPS for like...
I've never seen something so clearly done just for games on YouTube.
I feel that way too a little.
It's like...
It has no benefit for anything else.
It's useful, but at the same time, it's like I feel like very few...
Like playing a game at 60 FPS is a much better experience than watching something at 60 FPS.
Absolutely.
At the same time, all of the Platinum games and MGS5 and Rezoven trailers at 60 FPS look fucking glorious.
Yeah, but I can't wait to see some actual games in advance.
But like with those, isn't even the frame rate, it's the bit rate is terrible on stuff like that.
Granted.
Yeah, granted.
The whole thing about like you can feel the improvements, it makes a huge difference
versus just watching where things kind of feel too fast.
It's like, well, my most hopeful application for this is people finding making videos to
teach you the difference between 60 and 60.
Yeah, I watch a lot of Max's videos where he's playing fighting games online.
And the thing that drives me nuts isn't that the frame rate isn't quite right.
It's that every time a projectile explodes, it just turns on killer instincts.
Like the video quality just goes to complete shit because the bit rate is too low.
Thankfully, this week's letter time is brought to you at 60 frames per second.
Yeah, so what does our podcast run at in frames per second?
Well, we usually hit 20 and a half or nine, but yeah, listen to this half as fast,
but then fast forward it when you download it.
Get 60 FPS.
And you get this podcast at 60 frames per second.
We can upgrade the podcast to 144 FPS per second.
Because if we're not dead, FPS per second.
Per second per second.
I don't know if our mics can handle that.
I fucked that up.
I fucked that up.
Too much data.
Too much data.
The microphones are not there yet.
So hey guys, if you want to send us frames in the mail so we can increase from our 23.97.
Send them now to superbestfriendcast at gmail.com.
What was that?
It's superbestfriendcast at gmail.com.
That's a one.
I think I got it.
Yeah, I think I got it.
Writing it on my arm.
How many frames did you get?
23.97.
That's terrible.
You just wrote it on your arm, but it just went in.
That's words of shadow.
One frame rate.
On 24.
It was 23.9 something.
I'll never forget that we learned in my class in the back in art school about video editing and
the reason why the frame rates are not rounded numbers.
They're rounded in PAL numbers, but in America they're not because somebody just straight up
calculated wrong.
Back in the day, when there was a straight up miscalculation, therefore 9.97 became the thing
as opposed to a rounded number.
Does this mean change due to mistakes?
Mistakes.
Yes.
You're being made, dude.
So what's this mistake that a person asks us?
Scott Smith's mistake was asking.
Reading this was a mistake.
Scott?
Scott'sman.
I shouldn't have read it.
Um, it's too late now, though.
I was wondering if any of you guys have watched Stargate SG-1 and what you think of it.
Stargate SG-1 fucking kicks ass.
I watched it, but I was a lot younger when I watched it.
I thought it was just a really cool sci-fi audience.
Yeah, I watched it the first two seasons, but I was always disappointed that I was like,
because I love the first movie so much.
So I was like, oh, they can't have the movie actors, but I miss Kurt Russell.
That's the Giver!
I know it's the Giver.
Richard didn't ever say it, dude.
Kurt Russell's cooler than Giver.
I had that feeling as well.
I disagree.
No, you don't think Solid Snake is cooler than the Giver?
No, I don't.
You are wrong.
You are wrong, sir.
I absolutely adore the Grandpa Day episode.
Yeah?
I love that episode.
Tim, every time I eat fruit loops, it's like I gotta goof off, right?
Exactly.
All those other Stargate series are shit.
Oh, absolutely.
Atlantis.
Absolutely.
Total Carbon.
Yeah, I haven't seen it, though.
I remember when it first came out and I felt the same way.
I was like, oh, I want more movies.
SG-1, to me, is a lot like in tone and structure.
It's basically next generation.
Yeah, I had friends that were super into it that were like, it's really good.
It's so good.
I believe it.
Like shows that I happen to watch that I know are pretty good.
That and Battlestar Galactica.
It's so good as long as you stop at a certain point.
Right.
That's one of those shows that was so popular that they finished it and they're like, no,
dude, two more seasons.
Is it an ugly skit on its face?
Where there is the episode in season eight called Threads.
It's called fucking Threads and they tie up every single loose thread possible.
They defeat all the villains.
In what episode?
All diseases are cured.
Like everything is solved.
Wow.
And then they're like, no, we need two more seasons.
So bullshit new villains are just imagined on the spot that are just their ghosts.
So you have to stop before the series ends.
Yes.
Not even when it switches names.
The story ends at the final, the season eight finale.
And then it just kind of zombies on for two more seasons.
Fucking kick ass.
That's so, so good.
Dylan, you son of a bitch.
He asks the question.
TV, TV, TV, TV.
Yeah, TV.
Basically, please tell me that's the question.
What kind of TV should I buy?
Go to input lag.com.
Yeah.
That'll help.
Well, he needs we need to have more information of what he values.
If TV for video games.
If you're buying a TV for video games, go to input lag.com.
I think that's the website.
I think that's it.
Or just type in input lag database and you'll find it's a TV review site that.
A monitor review site.
A monitor computer monitor.
Yeah.
It's a monitor and TV review site that reviews stuff entirely based on their input lag first.
And then all of their other features afterwards.
But if you go down that list from the top and pick one that suits your needs, you'll get.
So like every six months, they put out like best TVs of this quarter or whatever.
And so this is the best value for this.
This is the best value for this.
This is has the lowest lag with these features or whatever.
It's what I used to buy my TV to.
And we're really happy with my TV.
You're interested in games and you want TV.
That's what everyone should be.
Yeah.
I am excused from this discussion because I just replaced the bulb in my DLP.
Yeah.
Well, I'm still running on a CRT so I get the feeling.
Fair enough Liam.
I forgot about that.
Then you need to lose TV.
No, that's fine.
No, it's got that.
It's got that.
I bought this last year, didn't you?
You need to know.
It's got that weird black spot from where the Kinect had it.
I don't care about it because I'm not insane.
Also, you're telling me to stop talking about it though because every time I do,
you remember that it's there.
So I think you are insane.
There's also a size limit because you have a thing to hold your TV in.
You can get another.
Knock out that wall on the side.
Knock out that wall on the side.
It can support a 50 inches.
I bet Matt could get another five inches in there.
I bet I could.
I bet I could.
Evan wants to know how you gentlemen feel about the cinematic experience known as
crank and crank high voltage.
Those movies are Shakespearean.
Oh, one of them is good.
Yeah, it was not good.
Crank one is not good.
Yeah.
Crank two is a work of God.
Yeah.
I've only seen crank one.
Crank then you saw the one.
Oh, you don't.
No, you've told them about it before.
Crank two is.
It is on my list of blessed seeds.
But crank one is stupid as well.
You don't get it.
You don't get it.
But you got to see crank.
Crank two is they're like, what was the good parts of crank one?
The parts where it was complete garbage.
So let's just make the entire movie complete garbage.
You remember when I saw machete and I was kind of disappointed that it was kind of like
flaccid?
It was okay.
Yeah.
Okay.
Crank two is the machete that I wanted.
You didn't get to see it, but with shotgun.
Of course I did.
Oh, you did.
Okay.
Yeah.
Oh, yeah.
No, they're doing crank two.
I think he's described.
It has a scene where Jason Sagan is fighting a guy and you're like an electrical power
conduit.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And then it turns, they turned into kaiju.
Right, right, right.
Yeah.
Okay.
It is the dumbest greatest film ever.
Crank two has the single greatest scene ever in which two characters see each other,
yell at each other, and then one of them gets hit by a car.
And if you've seen crank two, you know what I'm talking about.
If you know, well, that girl looks hilarious when she gets hit by a car.
I never thought I'd have to talk about it.
What a scumbag villain that kind of looks like Ono.
He trolls people.
Zachary.
Hello, Zachary.
Zachary.
No, no, no, no.
This is a Hungarian name.
Zachary Zachary Zachary.
Anyway, Zachary.
Wants to know, Ninti and Sony, armchair CEO retroactive.
Would you have ditched Sony for Phillips back in the day if you were Nintendo?
Of course.
Regarding the SNES CD add-on.
No.
No, I don't know why this is even a question.
Or I guess.
That's probably the single greatest mistake in all the video games.
Yeah.
I can't see any other way to play that, dude.
Like, what you stick with Sony there.
Is there any larger mistake than that?
Um, the crash.
Yeah, but that was like a hundred.
And everyone did that.
And we came back stronger as a result of it.
But what would the world be if there was no Sony and there were Sony games as it were?
And now Nintendo would just continue to be the stronghold.
I would say Nintendo would be great at this.
No Sony games would be great.
Well, but like, I'm thinking about a universe in which the Super Nintendo
kept getting sequels.
Right.
Like, I was going to say, Nintendo sticking with cartridges is not a mistake that is
not a mistake that even if they're correct, it would have hurt Sony,
but it would have made probably maybe better N64 games.
That's what you would have gotten Final Fantasy.
And the third parties might not have shied away from Nintendo like they did.
Because the cartridge sizes were so expensive.
We might still have Sega console.
Sega would still be in the game.
You know, Sega and Microsoft together.
So like, hey, if I get to trade Sony for like the good era of Sega.
Yeah, I'll do it.
I'll do it right now.
I can do it nine times.
I'll do it.
I'll do it.
Damn, damn, damn it.
Oh, you beat me.
You beat me to doing it nine times.
Not much of a challenge, Zachary.
Don't go into business.
Don't.
That being said, I wish Philips independently made terrible games.
Continued.
On purpose.
Yeah.
That would be amazing.
Stay infinite money.
And they just buy your goodies.
And all those weird South American companies that still make brand new games for the Genesis
and new ports.
So Philips keeps making these bad Nintendo games.
Terrible Nintendo games that due to some contractual loophole
have to be on stage at E3 every year.
Wow, this is amazing.
That's why I want the transcript of those shareholder games.
These games are great.
Please make more.
Taylor is wondering if we're worried about the division in light of recent visual fidelity
downgradings.
Absolutely.
And if we think Watch Dogs are a precedent for what Ubi is going to do to handle like PC.
I think that's absolutely okay.
I think that's a worry, but it's not a certain thing.
I think after the big butt crap parts think they're going to start probably changing their tone a bit.
After this best game.
Changing their tune, I should say.
I don't have that concern because the division is by a totally different team.
And thus, it'll have a totally different set of problems that are irrelevant to the Watch Dogs one.
I thought the precedent was that Ubi games on PC in general are fucked.
They are shaped for sure.
This is what I learned last week by listening to the podcast.
That's only been used for the division.
There's no drop-in.
Like Ubisoft Montreal, I feel, isn't going to set a precedent for another team.
Granted, there's a good chance the team could still make the same mistake.
For the PC scenario, the reason why it's Ubi and not any particular developer is because Ubi just outsources to a specific,
I think it's Ubi Kiev or somebody else and they just fuck it up or not.
So, yeah.
But also, I don't think division is going to look anything like that when that game comes out.
I think it's especially considering the gameplay demos we saw of the division,
both of them were exactly the same and that they were hyper-guided.
Hyper-guided experience.
They were guide experience.
Yeah.
Right?
And so, when I see that, it's like...
Well, they felt like I'm last of us combat scenarios.
Yeah, but no, but I just mean like the way that it's shown is just like, look, here.
Yes, yes, yes.
Like, that doesn't fill me with confidence that that's not entirely faked.
You know?
I think that's a stretch, but...
No, I don't think it's entirely faked, but after Watch Dogs, I don't...
There's no benefit of the doubt with the way those games look.
Yeah, I mean, there's no faking in Watch Dogs.
Just there was some fuck-ups that happened during development.
Over the next, what, is it two and a half years?
Well, and we did see the downgrade before it came out.
Yes.
And I think we're going to see the downgrade for the division before it comes out too.
Do you think so?
I think there'll probably be something of that, but I don't think it's anything to do with Watch Dogs.
I think it would have happened in a world where Watch Dogs didn't exist.
I don't think Watch Dogs caused it.
I just think UB says, put the shiny game out there and they put the shiny game out there,
then they say, make it.
And they're like, oh, it's not going to look as good as this shiny thing.
Imagine if it was the reverse.
Imagine if we see all these trains for Shovel Knight,
we play the demo and it looks like it does,
and then when the game comes out, it's like this realistic, like,
Bomberman's Turo, like, this isn't what I wanted.
This is what I'm paying for in that world.
That's exactly what I wanted.
Born with a shovel in his hand.
And he seeks vengeance.
This is the fake Persona 5 box art with Dwayne Johnson and Shia Levone.
Oh, yeah.
I love that box.
The fake Persona 5 stuff was unbelievable.
You see that YouTube channel that had, like, 100 custom songs for a fake Persona 5?
I saw that, like, we talked about that.
I think a custom subscribed to that.
They're really good, too.
That's crazy.
Like, that's the worst part.
That's fucking crazy.
A lot of them are remixes of people on YouTube.
Just, like, unused Shogi Meguro music type of thing.
Or a lot of it is just, you know, where it was coming from and it sounded like the same stuff.
Because, like, I could make an OST for a fake Ghost in the Shell standalone complex season
just by grabbing Yoko Kano music that you've never heard.
You know, like, it wouldn't be hard.
Like, this guy was remixing and making all of it himself.
I think that's a little stupid project.
Yeah, maybe.
But I think the part that fooled everyone is it was called P5 Atlas or something.
And the YouTube title picture, like, this was really, really official shot of, like,
a character with, like, a black butterfly.
And it was just enough to fool people.
Oh, I miss it.
It was great.
Well, I don't miss it.
It's still there.
It's still there.
Yeah.
I miss the hope.
Yeah.
Division's probably not going to look as good.
Uh, we'll see.
I mean, I'd like to think, like, maybe they'll learn this time.
But then again, if it's been shitty every time.
Like, the backlash to Walkstalks, like, might have been too late for them to change course.
But what I mean is that, like, prior to now, you, like, you guys are saying, like,
it's been a problem.
But, like, this is the, oh, this, this got so bad that I heard about it.
So.
Well, because it wasn't just on PC.
It was everybody.
Yeah.
Downgrade.
Right.
Um, Ethan wants to ask if Liam can do another anime wrap-up at the end of this season,
like, you did at the beginning.
Sure.
That'd be, I guess I'd like to do that next week then, I guess.
Watch more anime then.
Yeah, have you got, have you got the, uh, the, I guess, results tallied in your head?
I mean, I've, I've, I've got the ones that I stuck with.
Is that one with the weird fox lady in there?
Yeah, okay, whatever.
You couldn't watch anime because of Japan.
Yeah.
That's fucking.
It's a, what do you want me to do?
Sit, if you went to Japan.
Yeah.
Would you sit there in the fucking apartment just watching anime?
But, but I'd like to think that's what you actually did.
Please, please.
It's part of the experience.
That's really funny.
He travels like 16 hours and just watches anime.
Raw, unsubtitled.
I'll probably do it next week, and I'll probably set up a fake Twitter account
where everyone can send all their hateful comments.
Oh, very nice.
Perfect.
Yeah, please reach me at checkyourownbuttitsmells.
Why do you like to kissyourownbutt.com?
Exactly.
I'll go over it.
There's this brand new anime called,
ah, you put the stick lines and everything.
What's on the watch?
All the stuff I bought on Steam this past week.
That you're never going to play statistically.
No, that, yeah, 30% of all Steam games are on play.
I'm shocked it's that low.
I know, right?
Me too.
I thought like so.
But it's probably the same thing with whales driving that up.
The primary one would be Divinity Original Sin,
which is a isometric classic RPG.
You've got kickstarted, which I loaded up right before coming here,
and it looks really good.
But it finally came out.
So, yeah, I'll be looking at that.
I'm going to put Virtue's Last Reward on the watch,
because I realized, oh, shit, I can play the PSP.
Yeah, you have the Vita now.
The Vita one, right?
No, it's a PSP.
Yeah, and at the same time, I want to throw a reverse watch.
Fuck you out too.
Reverse watch.
I'm not going to watch this.
This is a DSI game WarioWare snapped.
Oh, why?
I was grabbing, because I basically was trying to find some good games
for my girlfriend to play on her 2DS, because I got her 2DS,
and, you know, going to hear some fun stuff.
You can't play snapped on a 2DS?
That shit don't fall.
I didn't.
No.
Of course, of course, but I never thought about it.
So, I'm like, I know that she's a big fan of WarioWare,
so I just grabbed the one that was available
on the eShop, unaware of the fact that you have to play it sitting on a table,
flat, with no controller, with no hands.
Because it's cameras, though.
Exactly.
Hey, by the way, on that same token, don't buy her a fence and hourglass.
Why not?
No, you can do it.
You have to fold.
No, the sleep button acts as the fold.
Oh, that's bullshit.
Just to go to sleep?
Yeah.
No, because there's a section of the game, we have to fold to do a map thing.
You have to fold.
Yeah, but the actual game.
Interpret sleep mode is folding.
I didn't know that.
Yeah, that's totally fine.
But this game cannot be played on a 2DS app.
You need something to prop it up, don't you?
Exactly.
Yeah.
And even then.
You need that dumb kid Icarus stand.
But it wouldn't fit.
Oh, no!
It's something to hold your 2DS vertical.
Oh, no!
Maybe the Wii U controller pad stands?
Because it needs to be vertical.
Like, not just an angle.
But you have to lean over it.
Your back would hurt after a while.
I don't think this WarioWare game is that good.
I had a lot of fun with it.
But yeah, if you can't fold to a DS, that's a fucking hassle.
So fuck you.
Fuck you and your bullshit.
Yeah, you got to play Grappy Rush, too.
Yeah, yeah, I guess.
No, he's got like 180 hours of other games.
I know.
I downloaded Valiant Hearts, and I would really love to play it.
What kind of game is that?
It's an adventure game.
An adventure game?
Okay.
I'd really love to play it, but I've been so busy.
Because if you're going to say right after this,
is what's on the channel, is that our theme month starts today, I believe.
Shit, it's July 1st, isn't it?
It is July 1st.
It is July 1st.
Future Tomorrow Land.
It is.
And every time I'm like, I want to play a game,
and I remember video games, or I want to play Shovel Man.
I'm like, I have like 20 more videos and stuff for it.
So I enjoy the theme month.
But I'm really looking forward to Valiant Hearts,
because it got really good reviews.
No, I'm going to grab my PS4 for my friend later today.
Yeah, you said so.
Because I went to Japan, so I'm like, I don't fucking care.
I'm not excited about this in Japan.
So yeah, Valiant Hearts.
Fuck, I'm excited about that, too.
Yeah, gotta get that.
Gotta play in Twine as well.
Gotta get cash?
So yeah, what's coming up on the channel,
obviously we've got the theme month,
which you've been teasing people with a little bit.
Yeah, it's a little bit.
You've been looking to skirt.
Just looked at the skirt, see, you get a flash.
Not quite.
Yeah, but there's obviously a lot of people nodding it a little.
Is Berserk over already, or is it ending?
I can't remember.
I think it's one part yesterday.
Yeah.
Yeah, so like maybe one part after that,
Berserk will be over.
Berserk will be over.
Yes, we will.
Again, Ori4 will be over soon enough.
Oh shit.
Oh no, our channel, everything's ending.
Everything's over.
And I would like to announce a special thing for the...
Oh, formally, we're doing this.
Formally, we're formally letting the people know that
here's what we're gonna be doing.
Oh, he's dying.
Am I the one who got about this for the first time?
Maybe.
No.
We're fired.
No.
So the plan for the Nuzlocke that's going to continue is...
This is a plan now.
The plan.
Because I...
And you actually originally had a pretty good suggestion,
but I think it might be interesting to even start it earlier than that.
What's Nuzlocke?
Yeah, exactly.
Good start.
Good start.
We'll come back to that question.
Is that the Spider-Pedia episode?
That's the one.
You got ass layers there.
Anyway, Nuzlocke plans.
The Nuzlocke is I'm going to basically take a day and sit down and just live stream that
shit at you guys.
And it's going to take as long as it fucking takes.
And I'm going to be there playing it.
And that footage will get re-uploaded.
Of course, it will get re-uploaded.
But I'm...
And it's not just going to be wooly.
But we're going to have...
I kind of want to drop by on this.
Well, here's the deal.
We could.
We could totally drop by.
That's the deal.
There's just fucking...
I don't want to be like you guys are fucking sitting in my house forever.
That's so awesome.
No, but...
That's what we should do at Matt's house.
But that doesn't work either.
And it needs to be somewhere where hours can go by without problems.
It's got to be the wooly drama.
I want you guys to, of course, come in, shell, do the thing.
Bring our snacks.
Exactly.
Hold me short.
We can have a camera looking at us on the couch.
Absolutely.
You know what?
Absolutely.
You know what?
You know what I think of it?
I liken it to the CFCF12 telephon for children.
There you go.
You know, like people would come in, acts would come in,
you know, to, like, pepper the whole experience.
Right.
Yeah, I know.
It's fun.
It's going to be a good time.
We'll have a comment section.
All the things that are hips with the kids.
Yep.
You guys can chat and we'll do the whole thing.
So we're going to figure out how to show the face.
If you want to come in and say hi and offer some constructive criticism.
Welcome.
Feel free to.
So, yes, we will be announcing the exact time and place
and date and so on and so forth.
For where you can tune in to this Nuzlocke,
The Road to Final Victory.
Road to Final Victory.
Oh, that's a pretty good name.
And I hope you guys enjoy.
It's going to be my debut streaming event.
It's going to be extremely sweaty.
It's going to be hot.
If Matt and I are on it also, I think that'll be our debut streaming also.
Perhaps.
We'll all be streaming after a while.
And, like, you know, well, that's not true technically
because I've streamed for Street Fighter things.
Oh, that's not the same.
But yeah, you guys will get to yell at me and tell me what to do.
I'll get to yell at you.
That too.
Yay.
It's going to be great.
I never do that.
Sick.
So look forward to that.
I'm looking forward to it.
It'll be fun for sure.
You sound really excited and not nervous at all.
No, I'm looking forward to it.
I can't wait to go, like, buy the food and set it all up and do stuff.
Oh, buy, buy, right.
Fuck cook some shit.
Have your mom or friends make, like, Pokemon theme snacks?
You need to get an empty table for the food.
Do you mean Liam should cook me some Pokemon theme snacks?
I mean, my Leo should make Pokemon theme snacks.
Then that's confirmed.
Liam is going to cook me some Pokemon.
We have to wear those heels we talked about in the R4.
And you've already got the apron.
You can't afford your Pokemon craft dinner.
Pokemon craft dinner.
You know.
Pokemon craft.
That's the laziest.
Okay, Pokemon snacks.
That's a whole different world.
Oh.
So.
This shredded, oddish Julian.
And this is where we're going.
Mashed.
I think that's a little good about this theme month.
Yeah, for sure.
Yeah.
It's a good time.
Theme month sounds like fun time.
So, stay tuned, true believers.
Yeah.
Is that the thing?
That's the thing.
Yeah, not enough said.
All right.
Barbeque party.
Excelsior.
Excelsior.
I want to fight.
Kill them, eat them, conquer or you die.
I want to rock, I want to rage.
I want to rock and roll all day.
I want to fight, I want to play.
I want to rage all night, all day.
All right, all right.
Kill them, eat them, conquer, or you die.
I wanna rock, I wanna rage, I wanna rock and roll all day.
I wanna fight, I wanna bathe, I wanna rage all day.
I wanna rock, I wanna rage, I wanna rock and roll all day.
I wanna rock and roll all day.
I wanna fight, I wanna bathe, I wanna rage all day.
I wanna rock, I wanna rock, I wanna rage, I wanna rage.
I wanna fight, I wanna fight, I wanna play.
I wanna rock, I wanna rage, I wanna rock and roll all day.
I wanna fight, I wanna play, I wanna rage all day.
All day.