Castle Super Beast - SBFC 052: Nonstop Infinite Podcast
Episode Date: August 5, 2014The Bossman is fighting a Cuban Revolutionary war this week, but the show must go on! Time to talk about which game companies are on fire, why Ubisoft is giving us confused feelings inside, and probab...ly our favourite variant of the M/F/K game to date!Â
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When are you going to burn that sublime bone dust at the end of the session that we played
it in?
Something like that.
Hey!
Hey, what's up, everyone?
Happy birthday!
Happy podcast!
Happy.
Happy birthday.
Did you know that a prod...
Do you know the new...
Broadcast?
Do you know the new thing about that?
Apparently, like, who the fuck owns Happy Birthday?
Oh, fuck that.
Yeah, apparently they may not.
Like, they're being challenged.
Saying that, like, they made it in clerical errors like 80 years ago.
That mean that they're not enacted.
And that they have to pay everyone back.
Because every piece of media I've ever seen that has the birthday thing going on,
they avoid singing the song entirely.
Or, I think, 30 Rock, like, straight up says,
no, don't sing the rest of the song in copyright.
Otherwise, we're gonna get...
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So now, new bullshit, Happy Birthdays have come on, like,
Happy, Happy Birthday, Birthday, Birthday!
Like, fuck that!
The thing is, is For He's a Jolly Good Fellow is totally okay.
Yeah.
Everyone can sing that.
Yeah.
You know?
Fucking Happy Birthday.
Really?
The copyright is not even real.
Because, because, like, the original copyright has something to do with the fact that Happy
Birthday isn't the original song used at, like, that melody.
That melody.
And it's just, like, a Happy Birthday rip-off of that song.
Right.
Oh, wow.
It's all very complicated.
If it were to come to life that they didn't own it, in fact, I'd be so happy.
Pay me.
I'm gonna pay me back for all the times I didn't use it.
Yeah.
Until Disney buys it the next day.
Yeah.
Disney just buys it.
Yeah.
Like, it's ours now.
Either way, we've been doing this shit for a year, you guys.
Woo!
Happy Birthday, dear Paulina.
Perfect.
Perfect.
That's the amount of flaccidity that I'm looking for.
I'm looking for a flash of birthday.
Yeah, we don't want, we don't want no strong blows.
We want them weak.
We want them...
I want, like, the weakest channels.
Uncertainty.
I want the confidence wavering on those blows.
Oh, that's one year.
What is a...
Like, what do we...
What do you do for a one-year anniversary?
What do you do?
What's that called?
Is that called the Woodversary or the...
The Silver...
Oh, that's all that shit.
Yeah, it's called Nothing.
Oh.
You have to get to, like, 30 plus to get to the titles.
Well, we're not gonna...
Well, if I'll be dead.
Yeah, well...
Good luck then.
You can replace me with that robot you have right there.
I got your robot replacements anyway, so it'll be fine.
Okay, I...
Can I just put my brain in a robot?
Exactly.
Oh, my God, that was so fine.
You'll be fine.
You'll make it to 50 years.
Oh, man.
I just...
You know what I want to do before I die?
This is...
I feel this is appropriate for a birthday.
Okay.
All right.
I want to go to space.
Yeah, me too.
Okay.
I was on...
I was on the internet last night looking at videos of Bill Nye talking about space.
Well...
Well...
Man, how much...
I wish I could get to space.
Okay, but how much risk are you willing to incur in your choices?
I am willing to hop on a shuttle right now.
As they are.
As it is.
It's only gonna get easier.
It's back style.
Yeah, okay.
I'll do it.
I would do it right now, too.
If you just came in here hoping to go to space now...
If you just have to...
If you just have to...
If you just have to...
If you just have to...
If you just have to...
If you just have to send me to space machema style or you just strap me to the rocket...
I'd be a little...
Well, no, but what I'm saying is...
You would make it.
Because you would never make the cut as an astronaut.
No!
I'm a piece of shit!
But none of us will.
None of us ever, right?
So the only way we could ever get there is through private space tourism.
Space tourism.
Yeah, exactly.
It's like, I'm gonna take a plane that can bring you into low earth orbit.
And you can chill in zero gravity for a day and then go back down.
That's so pretty cool.
That's good enough for me.
Low earth orbit.
Okay.
The least space of space.
Yeah, that's good enough.
It's good enough.
I just want...
Zero G and I want to look down to the earth and see it as it was meant to be whole.
Yeah.
No east or west.
No dividing lines between countries.
Oh, wow.
Wow.
Just reaching out there and uniting those borders.
Just embracing everything.
And then come down and act like the smuggest piece of shit.
All arguments are fucking null and wrong.
Oh, man.
You know I've been to space, right?
Oh, wow.
You climbed Everest.
That's amazing.
It's not as high as space, though.
That's the number one reason.
That's it, yeah.
The number one reason.
To be a smarmy shit for the rest of your life.
And see, then when space tourism becomes common, then you gotta step it up.
It's like, ah, yeah, space.
Yeah.
Well, I have this moon rock I stole.
Do you have a moon rock?
Just fucking three years to come.
Now, well, maybe you just don't know what it's like in space.
You know what's the most...
Like, hey, this spaghetti's pretty salty.
Kind of reminds me of that time I went to space.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Piss off your holes faster.
You know what's really depressing about moon rocks?
What?
They're just rocks.
They're just rocks.
They're not even special.
Yeah.
You can find rocks that are the same as moon rocks?
Yes.
Anywhere.
That is correct.
It kind of sucks.
It's so boring.
We know this.
I know.
You would hope you'd get out there and they'd be made of, like, specialonium or something.
You think you're gonna fucking...
Made of cheese?
Of cheese?
Force evolutions out of your Pokemon with this shit?
No.
It's nothing, dude.
No.
But you would hope...
You would hope you'd want to find Unobtainia out of there or something.
Unobtainia?
Or at least have it be, like, a unique combination of other rock parts.
That you just can't find on Earth.
But, like, nothing crazy.
Well, this is granite and sandstone.
You know, like, but no.
It's just a fucking rock.
It's just the same rock.
So it was boring shit.
I'm surprised, guys.
The moon sucks.
The rest of our solar system.
Probably a lot of those same materials you're used to.
Yeah.
Well, that's why we gotta go to Titan in Europa.
Because the periodic table of elements covers...
Yeah.
You're a fucking effing Titan.
Now we know.
It's covered in carbon like crazy.
It's covered in carbon soup.
There could be monsters down there.
Maybe.
And Europa has a giant ocean of actual honest to God seawater.
Well, I was gonna say, can't you even land there?
Not yet.
Europa?
Not unless you're willing to trail through, like, 40 kilometers of ice.
Yeah.
Or maybe even...
You can't even get there.
We couldn't get there.
We couldn't get there.
A robot could get there, no problem.
Yeah.
But like, we can't even get to Mars really.
So would you then ever consider the fucking one-way trip to Mars?
No.
That's stupid.
That's dumb.
But what if you really love Mars?
I'm not gonna love Mars on year seven.
I don't think it's that way.
When I'm dead.
Because they have a whole thing where it's like, you have to be mentally fucking perfect.
You gotta be a fucking pessimist.
Yes, what?
Manually perfect, quote-unquote, I'm doing big quote marks here.
Manually perfect people are not gonna sign up to a suicide mission.
A lot of people already have.
Yeah, and they've all been washed out.
Apparently they cut the numbers down to a couple hundred semi-viable candidates.
As it should be.
No one's gonna get sent on that one-way trip.
Nobody.
I hope you do.
I'm wondering, man, because the plan is like, they're saying 2024, I think delay that by
about ten years.
But I could see it happening.
I could see that.
No one's going on a goddamn one-way trip to Mars unless we have a situation where they
can make a little base and provide to themselves.
That's absolutely the plan.
I know, that's the plan.
But an astronaut has to go.
They're not gonna send Joey.
No, these people get trained as astronauts.
It doesn't...
You need a space engineer.
As long as they prove that shit lands there and actually builds a base that they can live
in and recycle the air.
There are a bunch of Ikea boxes.
Just fucking looking at each other, looking at the air.
Think about this.
And they got one Alan Key to fill their whole base out of fucking space for your trip to
Mars.
Your trip to Mars has a downside that you haven't thought about.
The air seal has a fucking oomla out in its name.
What the fuck?
You don't see any friends or family ever again and you're cut off from human contact,
whatever.
Let's talk brass tacks here.
You think your internet service here can be bad?
Try like 14 hours on delay.
That's some latency.
At least they have internet.
There's places in the world that don't even have internet.
You bring yourself some books.
You bring yourself some games.
There are enough in the world.
Right?
And you just fucking make your way through it?
Maybe if I brought Persona 4 I could just play it over and over again.
You really just need to do our four firsts and you're good.
Like two months long?
Yeah.
I love that game so much.
That's a pretty good game.
Speaking of Persona.
Hey, so have you been playing Persona Woolley?
Well, since I had my first time off in a little bit.
Yeah.
Because that was quite a stretch.
Yeah.
I was wondering why Woolley piled through P3 in like three weeks, right?
Why is it taking longer for P4?
And then I'm like, oh wait, because superheroes.
It's been over every day for like half a month straight.
It was kind of insane.
However, yeah, I finally got my two days and I just fucking just piled through.
Yeah.
I've now seen two of the bad endings.
Which are bad.
Yeah.
They're not happy.
That's correct.
So I'm in the middle of my December-ish time frame right now.
And we're gonna see.
It's a good game.
It's a fucking great game.
How about that dungeon music on that last one?
Yeah, that was great.
Where you come in and you're just like, oh, I'll just stand here for roughly six minutes.
Yeah.
No.
I'm continually impressed and blown away by a lot of what it's gotten.
And like the few things that I feel are like, this feels a little shallower.
This could have been tweaked a bit.
I usually find out, oh yeah, that wasn't even there at all in the original.
Or it used to be like super busted and for it to have improved to minor annoyance is a huge deal.
Did you ever use the network stuff like the healing stuff in the dungeon?
Yeah, a little bit.
That's a really fun addition.
Totally.
That's only in golden.
I mean, I did that like once or twice or whatever.
I like doing the, what did everyone else do on this day?
Oh, the Vox Populite.
Yeah, that's interesting.
It's really good.
Because sometimes I'm like, oh fuck, there is a movie play.
And one of those things where you can just like, one of the most blatant things of like,
oh, Dark Souls is just getting into everything now.
Like that online component shit.
It's like that messaging system was the easiest to implement across like other games.
And so here it is.
And in this game, it works like just as good, if not better than it does in Dark Souls.
It's just telling you what to do.
I really like it.
In the game, when I hit the button, it says 99% of people spent today with Marie.
And I'm like, who?
Where?
Exactly.
How do you get Marie?
Totally, totally.
If anything, I'm always blown away by like the couple of people that are like, just went home.
And I'm like, why would you ever just go home?
Well, the only answer to that is they've beaten the game.
Perhaps.
And they're trying to speed blast through the days.
Okay.
Because I'm like, oh my God, there's always something.
If you're on New Game Plus, Plus Plus, then your compendium's probably full and you don't
need to do S-Links anymore at all.
You're just polishing off that one last thing.
Yeah, I just need this one last.
I just need to power up.
I need the Empress S-Links.
It just sucks.
I just need to get married at 99 and then I've got everyone done.
Well, I'm like at the very least on a day where I've got absolutely nothing going on,
I'll go build a fucking model.
Yeah, you will.
Just go do one of those things.
Or go fishing or whatever.
Well, I've been trying to fish.
F-ing Guardian.
That Guardian's a badass.
Shit.
Yeah.
Get good.
Asshole Guardian.
F-ing up my game.
It was really happy.
It was really great for me.
It was really happy.
I was really happy.
I was really happy.
Wow.
This is a podcast.
We talk.
Yeah.
When I put all my like, fuck you Guardian time in on P4 original, like twice.
So, I was really, really, really happy when I got to him in P4G and just caught him.
Like, just right away.
Okay.
Just like, it transferred enough of it over and I just yanked him out of the fucking river.
It's like, great.
I'm done.
Hermit, S-Links, 10.
Done.
Fox.
You and me are bros forever now.
Yeah.
Fox isn't a character in Ultimax.
I was thinking that earlier, but I was like, would he even be a fine idea?
He's mysterious.
You hit him and then he heals.
You cannot comprehend that.
That's it.
Yeah.
Fine.
There's nothing.
Fine.
There's nothing there.
No.
That's...
Sorry.
Go on.
Go on.
I was just going to say, so now that you've played P3 and P4, which is the modern persona.
Well, I'm not done P4, but I'm rounding out the edges.
But you've rounded out the edges.
Exactly.
Before the month is over, he will have published it all.
Yeah, exactly.
Do you think you're going to play the other spinoffs and maybe P1 and P2?
I mean, there's other games that are higher on my priority list of shit I want to go back
to, but I've already purchased SMT4.
Yeah.
That's the natural going place.
I'm going to play it.
SMT4 is the most persona SMT you can get.
Persona bled right into that.
Well, a lot of that is just mechanical improvement.
Exactly.
Exactly.
Unfortunately for games like DDS, 1 and 2, and Nocturne.
Those games, I can't force myself to think.
I had a good sleepover at other patch plays.
Yeah, and he just told you.
He didn't just tell me.
He popped them in.
Yeah.
And we just went through them.
And I was like, oh, wow, wow, wow, wow.
Okay.
And I saw the whole thing.
Yeah.
You know what I mean?
And also on a usability standpoint, going back to older SMT games is really hard because
they don't give a fuck about usability.
Right.
They don't give a goddamn fuck.
No, it's going to be four.
And then at some point after that, Rydo, because he's a cool looking fucking badass character.
It's the hat and the cape.
And as I've described to you guys, to some degree, his gimmick is kind of a game idea I already
had in my head for a guy that can summon demons and shit.
But he's a detective.
Yeah.
That's basically just Pokemon.
Well, in some way, but I didn't mean in that sense.
It's all basically just Pokemon.
It's all basically everything.
But instead of summoning like an electric bird, you're summoning like Metatron, the voice
of Yahweh.
Sure.
And you're like, okay.
I'm going to cut right to the grit of my question, which is, are you going to play PQ?
No.
Which is the one that me and Pat have both been kind of like.
Well, I'm buying it for the cards.
Exactly.
Like that's my point.
But now that I'm on the P3 and 4 train, all the little spin-offs, I'm going to play all
of them.
Well, PQ is like the nothingest spin-off of all.
Me and Pat don't even want to play PQ.
We're not even playing PQ.
Well, I mean, that's what Metatron Odyssey is.
Yeah.
It's fucking that.
That's exactly what it is.
Okay.
It's the Hyrule Warriors of Persona.
I'll stick my nose in at the very least and, you know, see what's going on.
I am really, it like straight up like warms the cockles of my heart to finally just have,
I spent a lot of time over the years.
Amen.
Just preaching this shit.
Amen.
It's all good.
Finally, it's just like, and it's like the, like you coming away from this being like,
eh, it's all right.
Would like have destroyed me.
You would have absolutely ruined me.
I really don't like it at all.
I don't know.
But similarly, like if you just watch the wire and it was like, well, you know,
I didn't like that season two.
We would have had two troubles.
We would have had words.
But that was, that's all I did with my PQ.
I'm two for two now.
Dark Souls and Persona.
It's hard to be wrong when these games have like 90 plus.
That's the deal is pick your spots.
Yeah.
When you have your evangelizing game where you're like, everyone needs to know.
Of course.
Pick the ones that you feel confident about.
And clearly the next time I tell you to watch a show.
Yes.
You fucking watch it.
Yes.
Better.
So you're the show Moses and I'll be the game Moses.
Sure.
Although everyone else amongst our friends are always already on that train as well.
Yeah, well.
You know, you weren't the only one.
You like to feel like you were.
But like other other Pat helped out.
I was right there with you.
Other Pat laid the groundwork for it to happen.
With that sleepover.
Also hearing mass destruction in my house.
Both of my friends, my roommates, rooms.
You're just, you're in a mass destructive sandwich.
You know.
But that's all I really did with my free time.
I didn't have a week.
I had two days.
Oh, okay.
What about you, Liam?
What do you do?
Sleep for the other.
No.
What do you waste your time with?
I went to my girlfriend's cottage in New York state.
Oh.
Which was really nice.
It was a really nice cottage.
You got Super Sunburn, which is not great.
Yeah.
You don't look that summer.
You don't look it.
It's all in my back.
It's all in my back.
Oh, yeah.
Because I was kayaking a lot.
You were kayaking?
Summer activities.
Did you flip underneath and drown and then come back up?
And were like, whoa.
Why?
I'm a cool guy.
Oh, yes.
I did.
Okay.
Because that happened to me.
That totally happened to me.
And it fucking sucked.
You get out.
My leg was stuck inside.
It wasn't a good time.
Well, you thankfully the fucking flotation paddle.
And you used that to yank yourself up a bit.
But that was not a good time.
No.
Tracks can kill you.
No, I went there.
Well, it's the water, really.
Look at weekends.
I started playing Rogue Legacy again on the Vita.
That achievement is bullshit.
I didn't play it a lot on PC because I'm not on PC guys.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
No, that's funny.
I finished it like four times.
That, that, that Chivo is garbage.
The one you were telling me about.
That trophy that I, it's the last one I have left.
Beat the game in under 15 generations without using the architect.
It's the nightmare.
I got to the last boss.
Are you even trying?
I tried a few times.
I don't know how much longer.
It's obscene.
It's obscene.
It's so dumb.
It's extremely difficult.
What are your favorite powers right off the bat?
My favorite powers?
Yeah.
Definitely the sword.
The sword that just floats in the air.
Okay.
It is so fucking amazing.
And then the boomerang, of course.
It's not called the boomerang in this game.
What's it called in this game?
I don't know.
Because in Castlevania, it's the boomerang.
It throws forward.
You mean the cross?
It's called the boomerang.
Whatever.
The cross is the big one.
You know, that goes vertically in Castlevania?
Yeah.
But yes, no, totally.
And like just having time stop and having...
A lot of people call it the cross too, so you're not wrong.
In Castlevania 1, wasn't it like straight up across?
You know, a lot of people do call it the cross too.
But that's the distinction, is the big cross power.
Did you like fully dump your money into...
I bought everything.
I leveled up to the max.
Completely maxed out everything.
Cool.
Super, super fun game.
Great game, man.
Great game.
I fuck.
Yeah.
I don't need to see what they make next, like...
I hope it's Don't Shit Your Pants 2.
Don't Shit Your Pants 2.
The shittening.
And it's like got a budget and like fucking cutscenes.
No, it's even more shitty.
Even shankier than...
Even weirder.
Yeah.
With crowdfunding.
If you haven't played Don't Shit Your Pants, it's a free flash game.
Holy shit, played Don't Shit Your Pants.
It'll change your life forever.
It's so amazing.
It taught me life lessons on how to not shit my pants.
Which is something you seem to need.
Uh-huh.
Uh-huh.
Uh-huh.
Don't Shit Your Pants.
Oh, no.
Okay.
Pull back the waistband when you're sitting somewhere and just lean in and shit your pants.
And then walk away going, oh, Liam, control yourself.
How'd you get it on your lower back?
It's all over.
And on an old recommendation from Matt that I don't know if he even remembers, I started
playing The Amazing Spider-Man.
Which one is that?
The face on the movie.
The first of the new set.
The first of the new set.
Not the new one.
The first of the new set.
The first of the new set.
The first of the new set.
That's correct.
Yeah.
Pretty damn good game.
So what happened to ASM 2 then?
I heard like all sorts of shit about that.
I haven't touched it yet.
Uh-huh.
But what I glazed from playing it with Matt was that it's just like, quick, make ASM 2
over the top of the first.
Yeah, that makes sense.
Whereas, like, I kind of ignored Spider-Man games.
Post Spider-Man 2, and Ultimate Spider-Man.
Yeah.
Because, well, did you touch Shadow's or?
I barely.
The other one?
They weren't particularly.
The dimensions?
Barely.
But they weren't really that no worthy anyway.
Okay.
I mean, it was fun to just see, like, Spider-Man noir in Spider-Man 29.
Oh, yeah.
Some of those cameos in there.
But it's way better than I thought.
Okay.
And, like, it's total Arkham Asylum rip-off combat.
It's still pretty fun.
How's the web swinging?
It's fun.
It's not, it's not, like, swing to buildings.
So that's, that's, that's, really, it does have that.
It does have that.
I don't think anyone has the wherewithal to keep up with those, like, annualized almost.
I don't think, oh, just have it in you.
For me, I just, but if you dabble every once in a while, you might be okay.
I just did a quick test every time.
I would ask someone, it was like, does it have Spider-Man 2 web swinging?
Yeah.
And they would say no.
And I would go, okay, thank you.
I'm pretty sure Asylum 2 does, though.
But now I got it.
Now I have to consider it.
The web zipping is super, I don't want to say unique because I'm sure every other Spider-Man
game does it like this.
Yeah.
You use fucking point and you want to go somewhere, you press the button and you go there.
It's just the go there button.
You go fast.
The go fast there button.
I like that.
Exactly.
I like that.
It's just when you attach to the sky.
Yeah.
It's like, I know it's the easy way out, guys, but come out.
I've been having fun and it's fairly negligible, actually.
Good game.
Good game.
No, I really like it.
And there's kind of to get around that a little bit is there's limits where if you're this
high above a building, you just can't.
Okay.
You can't go above buildings and still be swinging.
Yeah, okay.
At least there's that.
You can kind of work around it, but it's not 100% there.
I had that slingshot move and Spider-Man too.
It's thick.
Put it on the two buildings and then slingshot.
It was so good.
It was your week, Pat.
So much like you, I didn't do all that much.
But what I did do is I finally, I was talking to Liam about this last night.
I got into the Dark Souls 2 DLC and I beat it.
I did.
Yeah.
A couple of people writing in asking about like why the radio silence on the DLC.
Because I hadn't beat it yet.
So I didn't know when to do it in our LP.
The time to do it is as soon as it's available.
Okay.
Like as soon as it's possible to do it because it totally scales.
Like I was talking to Plague and it scales to your soul level or some shit.
So he went in with his 800 level character and like the characters had thousands of HP.
We should do it as soon as we can.
All right.
That being said.
That's a smart way to do it.
Liam and I to each other and to Plague.
We've been talking a lot about how like Dark Souls 2 just sucks.
Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
Jesus.
Hold on.
Dark Souls 2 is an 8.5 to 9.0 game.
Yeah.
So like how about it?
Pat chooses you.
Strong word.
Sucks.
Whereas I choose to say it's not quite as good as Dark One or Two.
And you have to remember before you even go in here, right?
Are you, is this for those who have played the entire series?
Yes.
Okay.
Because as a brand new objective game, it is absolutely fantastic.
It's such a good game.
But boy does it just suck though.
It doesn't suck though.
Like just it took a hit on like every part.
Primarily it's arts and boss design are just lame as shit.
And the level design just sucks compared to Dark One.
Now the reason I say this now with as much force as I say this now is that the DLC does not suck.
The DLC is fantastic.
The DLC feels like it was made by the team that made Dark Souls 1.
Okay.
It is so much better than the base game in every way that it is confusing and almost suspicious.
So this is frightening.
How long is it?
You get it.
You're able to access it at about the halfway point in the game after you beat the Rotten.
Which is one of the great Souls.
And the other DLCs are similar.
You'll be able to access one after you beat the Old Iron King.
But how long does it last?
How long does it last?
It's what I'm asking.
It's super long.
It's a gigantic, gigantic zone.
It is roughly the size of two of the larger zones in Dark Two put together.
Except it's one giant cohesive area.
You get a fantastic bird's-eye view of the entire zone right when you walk in.
And to the point where you can look down and see a mile underneath you, enemies stomping around.
And you can see that's a gameplay area.
And it's a gigantic sunken ziggurat and surrounding area.
And you look at that and you're like, you're like, this can't actually all be the zone.
They must be faking it.
Like Dark Souls 2 does a lot.
Dark Souls 2 fucks with space to make areas look large when they're not.
This area does not fuck with space.
You go like a mile in that direction.
And the ziggurat, you go through all like 30 floors.
It is a proper, confusing, weird, built-on itself dungeon maze.
If you jump off the side of one of the steps, can you survive the fall?
No!
Okay, so giant ziggurat steps.
It's enormous.
Fuck, that sounds cool.
And it has two of the better boss fights in the entire game.
It has the only decent giant creature fight in the entirety of Dark Souls 2.
And anybody who's played Dark Souls 2 and fought the Royal Rat Authority knows that
that boss fight is a piece of shit imitation to older boss fights that use the same formula.
I rarely call something that, but that one is a copy page.
It's a copy page and it sucks.
But this one has that large enemy style boss fight, but it's really good like the ones in Dark One were.
A large boss with little fuckers.
No, no little fuckers.
And that step one as to Dark Two fucked it up is that boss fights that have ads in them to make the fight tough
because the boss sucks, that's terrible.
Like you and I have talked at length about character action games in which if you have to add enemies into the fight,
the boss sucks.
Well, this is like that.
You have a knock-down, drag-out, huge battle with this giant fucking thing and it is great.
It reminds me a lot of the Black Dragon DLC fight from Artorias, which was fantastic.
It's really, really, really weird because now Dark Two is in this place where like the game is kind of uneven
and its quality, like the beginning is really good and parts of the end are really good.
But like that middle part sucks, but now the middle part is going to be the best part of the game
and everything is downhill after you do this DLC.
I haven't crawled my way back through New Game Plus to there yet.
But the art, just the art alone.
Like if you saw concept of this stuff, it looks so much better.
You know, a lot of games have this with DLC though, where like because it's made afterwards
and because it's, you know, something that is meant to be like fulfilling as a piecemeal delivery.
I guess, but like...
The DLC will be like on its own fucking grade.
I guess, but like it's so far above like some of the game's areas.
Like you've played enough Dark Two to know that like shaded woods sucks.
Like everything in that area sucks.
Like the cursed woods, the mist forest and part of Bright Stone.
Oh come on, the mist forest.
The forest is cool.
The mist forest is fine, but the bit after it with the Lion Warriors is terrible.
And Iron Keep, while a really cool visual idea, it has some good stuff.
Like it's a bunch of rooms pasted together.
Only the first half of Iron Keep is great.
Right, yeah.
It's a bunch of rooms just pasted together.
Like this thing is this immaculately conceived dungeon with all these like traps and new mechanics.
There are two new mechanics in the DLC.
Like I said yesterday, like usually these things are made by a totally different team.
So what we're seeing is that the A team was on Bloodborne.
The B team was on Dark Two.
And then the C team, which is actually better than the B team.
There's no such concept as A team, B team and C team that you're making up here.
And then everybody says on the internet that doesn't exist.
You have teams that are made by random staff that are applicable.
That's true.
They don't stay in a core and move around in a core.
That does exist.
It just may not exist in this time because that language came about because of Treyarch and Infinity Ward.
And that was A and B.
But this isn't.
It's true.
Internally inside of a triple A company.
The rest of the team is probably the same guy.
They pick and choose individuals to make up.
Whoever was in charge of this DLC should be in charge for the next not Miyazaki game.
That being said, they were in charge of making one area and thus put all their thoughts.
Yeah, sure.
But I would have preferred half the game to be gone and have all the areas be as good as this one.
Sure.
Because this area is better than like five of the other areas put together.
Sure.
And I find that weird because when I saw that it was like a season pass for Dark Two,
I turned my nose up.
I was like, oh, really?
Really?
Except like, I think it took me like eight hours to get there.
Four to eight hours.
And it's not like the game is short in the first place.
No.
It's like 40 plus hours.
It sounds like you did it in one sitting.
I did it in one day of one sitting.
He phoned me yesterday and he was just playing it the whole time, just swearing like every time he died.
Like, there is new and inventive stuff in this that could have been done in Dark Two
proper, but for some reason it wasn't.
Like, there's a nice gimmick with one of the bonfires.
There's environmental interaction.
There's a challenge area for fuck's sake.
Oh, it's so good.
Like a PvP quarter.
Yeah, also there's a DLC weapon in there that is just broken for PvP.
What are the new mechanics?
The new mechanics is there is a switch system in which you are raising and lowering parts of the environment.
And so this is a very wide open area with lots of these little tiny little pillars,
but the pillars are actually like buildings that you are raising and lowering to either get on the roof
to get to a better jump or go inside or get under.
So the zone has like six vertical layers as you're going through it,
and you're solving puzzles by making them rise and lower.
And there's a new enemy mechanic.
There's enemies in the DLC in which they appear as ghosts and can attack you,
and you cannot attack them until you find and destroy their bodies.
Which is sick.
Whoa!
Which is like, it's a really, really cool mechanic that you didn't have to be for the DLC.
They could have done it in the main game.
And I'm not going to stand here and say, like, that's a fault of the main game,
but it's like there was nothing cool like that in the main game.
Similar to the Skeleton Warriors and the Necromanters.
Similar to that.
There's a lot of Dark Souls 1 influence in this.
There's a lot of things that are twists on Dark One stuff.
And so I said that the large boss is quite good.
The smaller boss is straight up a do-over of a boss that already exists in the game,
which is the worst boss fight in Dark Souls 2 by far,
which is the final boss.
Oh, okay, it's not the fucking big worm thing.
No, no, the worst boss fight in Dark Two is the final boss,
and they do it over, and it's really interesting and fun to fight.
And better.
It's like embarrassing to whoever designed the original final boss.
So, like, it's so good that I came away from it going,
like, why wasn't the rest of the game like this?
It's so good.
I mean, this team had the advantage of being able to share all that stuff.
I guess.
And build off.
I hope it's just like, yeah, we learned from our mistakes,
and we made it better.
I really hope that's the case.
Cool.
Not a rip-off, fantastic piece of stuff.
I take it you guys didn't get your chance at Guardians of the Galaxy yet?
No, no.
I'm probably going on one set.
Okay.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's Rock-A-Ratoon.
Rock-A-Ratoon, a cool guy.
He's a cool guy.
He's a Raccoon.
I'm just glad.
He's the small one.
He's angry.
Shut up.
He has the big guns.
I'm just glad to hear it.
Just like me with these big guns.
I'm just glad to hear it's good.
Like, I was so worried that you'd come back and be like,
ah, shit.
No, no.
There's a bunch of people coming back from it saying,
I think there's a gap topic.
It's like, this should tell Bioware what the fuck to do with Mass Effect.
With space.
Yeah.
Having fun in space, totally.
And I forgot her name, but the writer, she just,
there's one of those things where like, her original credit was like,
to something way different, more like, sort of, not rom-com-y,
but just not the genre.
Not space adventure.
Of not space, exactly.
Okay, yeah.
And then just took that thing over to space.
There's a reason why people love Serenity and Cowboy Bebop so much.
It's because goofing around and having hijinks in space
is more interesting than saving space world.
Yeah, totally, totally.
And you can still have all the space tech fetishism
of like, look at the moving parts on the spaceship as it takes off.
Yeah, because that's a whole different discipline that just works on that.
Yeah, but if you're watching that while a fucking like, jazz theme is going,
or like a guitar strum is happening that's all western-like genres.
One of my favorite Bebop episodes is the Toys and the Attic,
where they're just like, they're scared of a weird thing that crawled out of their fridge.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And they're having zero G, like, space shenanigans with a monster.
Mushroom samba, man.
Mushroom samba is great.
It has nothing to do with space.
Yeah, no, that's nice.
There's like a jet bike at some point, but I don't really like-
Whatever, it could be a normal bike, you know.
So yeah, go do that, go enjoy it.
Oh, I forgot, I saw a movie this week, too.
What movie did you see?
I saw-
What was it? Pornography?
I saw Hercules.
So what's the person? Hercules?
Sorry, Mr. Dwayne Johnson.
Oh, that's pretty good, actually.
Well, apparently I should have seen that instead of Lucy.
That's Dwayne The Rock Johnson to you.
That's Dwayne The Rock Johnson to me.
He's credited himself as just Dwayne Johnson.
Oh, fuck him then.
Thanks, brother.
I will never let him forget.
Well, he was pretty good.
I was surprised.
It is a dumb action movie.
Well, I was going to say pretty good for dumb,
bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb.
Yeah, yeah.
It's based on a comic book that I never knew about
because I would never read a comic called Hercules.
Take that, Wonder Woman.
It's not just based on Hercules?
It seems to be based on a comic book, apparently.
Okay.
I didn't look into it.
It just said that in the credits.
But the idea is that he's not the son of a god.
He's just a huge liar.
People have just heard about him
and built up this huge myth around him
that he actually operates with his team.
And without them, he wouldn't be able to do a lot of the stuff.
And so it's actually a lot of fun.
Yeah, I was going to say.
Apparently, it's within the first five minutes.
It's within the first five minutes.
Yeah, you're right.
Okay.
It is surprisingly good.
All right.
Not ten, not nine.
Enough to spend your free movie ticket on?
Enough to spend my free movie ticket
that was expiring the next day.
Yes.
I was at the theater and I was like,
what do I see, Lucy?
Woolly told me that was terrible.
So you used more than 10% of your brain
and saw Herculean.
Exactly.
Oh, man.
I know, but I love the fire on the internet now
due to that coming back
and everyone being like, this is so not real.
Well, I thought we were over this like ten years ago.
Because we actually were.
Yeah.
But Lupesson just got the memo.
The DSM-4, the DSM-5 now.
The DSM-5 is now.
Wow.
This issue was debunked back in DSM-0.
You need the DSM to debunk that stupid shit.
Use your whole brain.
All the time.
But what if you want to make a movie with the Scar Joe?
Then you just got to...
Just make shit up.
No, don't think about it.
Don't base it in reality at all.
Just say their brain's growing or new synapses.
Make salt.
Wait, that came out already.
Don't bother.
Don't do that.
Don't bother.
Oh, no.
I also watched Twisted Fate, the Hardy Brothers story.
Oh.
What?
Where is this coming from?
That was super fun.
Did Matt make you watch this?
No, I just had it.
And I was like, I want to watch this.
And it was good.
I do like wrestling.
How was the obituary?
Are they dead?
I don't think so.
Jeff wishes he was dead.
There we go.
Painting eyes on your eyes.
Sign that you want to be dead.
I was going to put it in and my girlfriend was already rolling her eyes.
And then I noticed that too was the Jeff Hardy story.
And I told her and she was like, ah.
So we only watched the match.
T and A is going away.
Yeah, man.
We didn't talk about that.
We didn't talk about it on the podcast.
We talked about it right afterwards.
Total nonstop action impact wrestling.
Which is a famous quote unquote wrestling league.
A dupe long time.
Which lovers of Bachamania will know and love as the worst wrestling that has ever existed.
Starring the best stars somehow.
After their prime.
Like fully wrestled for T and A.
They got everybody.
And it's just like, why are your matches so bad?
Formerly good wrestler?
Because I think they have.
They barely have contracts for them.
Because we don't want to have you feeling like that.
The McMahon beating that you just came from.
There's that awesome animated gif of Sting supposedly doing a DDT onto a chair.
But he does it wrong and just smacks his own head into the chair.
T and A is the worst wrestling.
And Vince Russo, creator of the Attitude Era and destroyer of WCW Storyline Man.
Used to work there.
And then he got fired.
Because Spike I think was said fucking fire Russo.
The crowd chants fire Russo every show.
Every show.
And he's ruining T and A.
Won't fall you unless you fire Russo.
So then they fired Russo.
But then they secretly rehired him.
And then Russo, the moron that he is.
This sounds like a wrestling plot.
It sounds like a bit.
They rehired him because they needed his advice on it.
I don't know what the fuck he was doing.
He was doing like gimmick consult.
But anyway, he was a consultant on some bullshit to do with the storyline.
But secretly.
Big secret.
And then Russo being the moron that he is.
Accidentally CC'd a wrestling journalist.
Step one, wrestling journalism.
Step two, you CC'd a wrestling news person.
The details of your involvement in the next show.
And then tried to pass it off as fake.
And then when it came to light that it was not fake.
Spike said, well, we told you to get rid of Russo.
And not only did you not, but you kept it a secret.
So now we're firing all of you.
So I think in October T and A will just be gone.
So we're going to have a huge flood of D cars.
Like, like, ask Z card wrestlers.
Flooding into shit like Chikara and CZW's Tournament of Death.
Well, the question is, will something appear from this?
No.
Will somebody try to make something?
The answer is no.
Just with all these melting wrestlers.
These melting wrestlers will go back to their natural state,
playing in half sold out school cafeteria.
The World Oatmeal Federation.
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What a definition of a shit show.
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Shaving.
Right?
Clean your face off.
Clean your face.
Get rid of all that hair.
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Yes.
And who can help you celebrate facial hair shaving?
I don't know, actually.
I have no idea.
Can you help me out?
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Wait, that means I can do it at two in the morning.
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Wait, what?
When I'm like, for some reason, my face right now.
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Because my hair goes fast.
Can I get it super fast?
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Okay, good.
Two, did they really get harrys.com?
That's a fantastic, you were like, seriously?
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I can have it poured into my newly shaved beard.
Right?
You should have saved that five bucks to make yourself look sharper and snazzier.
Right?
Liam, you know about the musk.
Sometimes you need that little...
Matt's not around, so I don't need to try as well.
Matt always needs to keep his legs perfectly shaved.
Yes!
He can't deal with the hair.
It bothers him in the face.
How else can...
Remember that time we were over at Matt's house and we thought he had two poodles on
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Happy birthday, dear podcast.
Happy birthday.
You're one years old, but in podcast years, that's like...
Seventy.
I don't know.
Like, what year do podcasts usually die?
That's how you do it.
You work it back to power, right?
Yeah.
The good guys go triple digits for a while.
Yeah.
But it feels like it's been a long time.
The hot spot died after like five years.
Negative 64 is over two.
Negative 64 doesn't do their podcast anymore?
I didn't know that.
No, they're over two.
Oh, okay.
Over two years.
But I haven't kept track.
Well, we gotta catch up to them.
Sorry, sorry.
Yeah.
We gotta...
We'll catch up soon.
We gotta really put the pedal into the metal.
So, we're proud to announce we're releasing two podcasts a week now.
No, no, no.
In time.
In time.
Of course, of course.
The same pace.
But we catch up.
Yeah, that's it.
Of course.
In time, any two points due to the statistics will look like they're closer together.
We're gonna overtake them just you wait.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Fuck you, calendar.
We're coming.
What's new in the world of video games and assorted pop culture nerd shit?
Yeah.
I was like just thinking about that as I was just saying.
It's like technically game news is like the thing.
But then we'll talk about like going to space for half an hour.
That's gonna hurt people's ears.
No, not good.
No.
We need to keep another year of podcasts.
Oh, should we mention that Matt's not here?
Matt's not here.
He wasn't.
No, don't touch it.
Matt's enjoying Cuba.
Yeah.
And I hope...
I hope he's enjoying Cuba.
He told me...
He told me that if he saw like Big Boss that he would join up in military soft rounds
here in like two seconds.
Yeah, absolutely.
We await the Cuban adventures of the McMussles.
But not a very American place to go, mind you.
Yeah.
Or is it a super American place to go?
He's gotta keep it all muffled inside.
Yeah.
In the games this week.
In the games.
We'll start off with Dan Edelman.
Who?
Dan Edelman.
Edelman?
I don't know who that is.
He's the indie chief of over at Nintendo.
The third party acquisitions at Nintendo.
Well, okay.
Remember this guy?
No.
Like Shahid Ahmad.
Okay.
But for Nintendo.
So he was the guy that like people...
Indie's on Twitter with Twitter to him.
It's like, can I be an indie on Nintendo?
And he twit back like, yeah, you're a cool guy.
Let me help you out.
Now that I think about it, I had a phone call with him.
You had a phone call with him?
With him.
Yes.
Yeah.
And you're like, why no project diva?
That's not what I said.
So...
That's what you were thinking about?
Yeah.
He was known as the indie chief over at Nintendo.
A couple of months ago, he got put on gag order, basically.
Because you're talking too much, guy.
Well, he made a really, like in my opinion, really harmless tweet about...
Yeah, he did.
It was basically him replying to the region locking policy.
And someone said something to the effect of, sure wish I could play those games that are
never going to make it to Japan.
And then he just replied, yeah, I know what you mean.
I feel you.
Something along those lines of just like, I hear you, man.
And it sucks.
Because when you look next door, you see guys like Shahid and fucking Yoshida.
Going region locking.
Well, no, but saying stuff like, we're sorry, but this is the best we can do.
Or even better, you have guys like Yoshida when a guy says, I need DNA.
What the fuck is that shit?
I need that support so I can listen to porn while I play Battlefield.
Sure.
And Shuhei's response is, I know.
I've been there, bro.
Like when you look next door and see those guys and you say something innocuous like
this, but then...
Yeah, like the Sony guys get away with murder on Twitter.
Like, I can't believe they're encouraged to talk like that.
Well, because that's the...
And this guy comes along and says something.
That's the tone.
That's the tone that Sony's adopted in the public front.
Exactly.
Very, exactly.
Whereas Nintendo's tone is...
Sony has adopted the tone of Roy.
To give it very specific context, the guy wrote to him, I'd love to play the games that
never come to Japan.
And Dan replied, that never come to Japan.
Yeah.
Because I think he's from Japan.
Exactly.
I think that's the case.
That makes just as much sense.
And he said, I too used to live in Japan.
I had two SNESs, one Japanese, one US.
I feel your pain.
Yeah.
And that was enough for Nintendo to basically go, don't use your Twitter anymore.
Stop it.
Don't draw attention to how much we suck.
Eventually, they proposed, they said, hey, alright, we can use your Twitter if you let
a PR guy do the tweets for you.
Oh, fuck that.
And he's like, that's actually the worst thing ever.
I'd rather just keep it dead silent and let people read that as it is.
And as of a couple days ago, he's now left Nintendo.
And he's opening a private firm.
Yes.
What a good looking series of events for Nintendo.
Yeah, I know.
Don't they look great here?
That was it.
Like, they are saying that he is saying rather that, like, you know, he walked and whatnot
until he got booted or anything.
Yeah, I know.
And he wanted to go full India, I suppose.
You know what the solution here is?
Remove Region Lock.
Then no one will be able to make fun of you for Region Lock.
I know it's kind of a tangent, because that's not a topic, but like, whenever Iwata or Reggie
is talking about Region Lock and, like, why it's good and why it's okay.
You're just like, shut up your ass, asshole.
Fuck you.
Like, you're a liar.
I did unholy things to my Wii to play Xenoblade early.
Yeah, I know.
Because I didn't think it was ever going to come out.
I love that one picture that goes around on the internet.
Yeah, I know that picture.
Safe Nintendo Region Lock is better than dodgy Sony Region Free Practices.
I love that picture so much.
What?
Wasn't it just one game in the entire PS3 lifecycle?
You misheard me.
Oh, okay.
Safe Nintendo Region Lock is better than dodgy Sony Region Free Practices.
It's an ironic thing.
It's just stupid.
It's just like fun of people who argue that the Region Locking is okay.
It's just stupid.
I could get this Akiba strip thing in my Vito.
I already did.
And I will again.
You have to wonder if, like, back in the day, because remember how it was Liberty City Stories
for PSP that, like, allowed the hacking to be possible?
Oh, yeah, that was one.
Yeah, so you have to wonder who wants to make the game that allows the exploit
that shoots your sails through the roof, but fucking makes you PSP sales
was so weird in the first part of it.
Is it actually that that was the game?
Yeah.
Because PSP sales...
Because you're like, aw, fuck, we're sorry, guys.
Man, look at this money.
Dude, do you remember when it found out that the UMD version of Luminous was able to hack
the PSP, like, late in the lifecycle?
And Luminous became the number one item on Amazon?
That's exactly what I'm saying.
The PSP sales in the West were so weird because it was like nothing, nothing, nothing, explosion.
Like, in gigantic hardware explosion, nothing, nothing, nothing.
And it was all, like, that the whole time.
No, it's weird.
And I just find that, like, a policy this ridiculously strict where it was the most
polite, not even, like, aggressive, just, I feel, I empathize with your need to have
to purchase two consoles.
No, it's like, come on, guys.
It's the equivalent of PR nothing, where PR guys are just like, we can confirm we are
not doing, it's the same.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
We cannot confirm nor deny.
Yeah, we do not speculate, or we do not comment on speculation.
The exact phrasing, I believe, is we do not comment on rumors or speculation.
Yeah, that's it, that's it, yeah.
And, well...
You have to learn it so that you can be ready to just go, uh, turn your brain off at the
word three.
And while we're turning that Nintendo rumor mill, while we're doing both of these things...
Turn that button, turn that button.
Are you going to refer to the inaccurate report about them trying to get rid of Awada?
That's correct.
Yeah, that reports that in all sense.
Well, you follow up the source on this, and it goes to a Japanese, like, biz dev site
that just has no real sources.
And also, like, the whole concept is that, like, management is trying to get rid of
Awada.
Like, management doesn't do that.
Stockholders.
Like, stockholders.
Stockholders, exactly.
And for management to have a coup would be, like...
Yeah, so it's just starting at the beginning.
Like, if you want to write an article...
Like, starting at the beginning, there was a thing that popped up with, um, oh, apparently
there's turmoil inside Nintendo where the upper management is finding ways to oust Awada.
They hate Awada.
They want to marry on smartphones.
And they want to get Yamauchi's son in there instead.
I remember...
Specifically, does not want to be president of Nintendo.
Was that the case?
Yeah, I believe that was the case back when Yamauchi died when they were like, well, do
you ever want it?
Like, no.
So, but I mean, like, the idea of, like, a, um, a legacy passed on by, like, the patriarchy,
it's so, it's so, like, strange the thing that, like, you know, oh, this might be a thing
that they want to have.
Straight nepotism.
Straight up nepotism.
Thank you.
That's the word I was trying to think of.
Um, but no, uh, this is, this rumor just...
It's nothing.
You follow it back to its source and you get...
Like, not only does it not pass the initial smell test, you go to the shit and can't find
any poop.
Sure.
That kind of fell apart there?
Yeah.
That doesn't really make a lot of sense.
So then there was nothing?
Yeah.
Exactly.
There's people walking around the room saying, oh, that shit smells terrible.
And then you look over, you don't smell anything.
And there's just no shit anywhere.
Yeah.
Yeah, it's in your butt.
But just everyone's saying it.
Yeah.
Ready to be released.
Into someone else's pants.
Um, so no, the rumor mill churned and there was nothing produced that year.
There's nothing.
Uh, the other...
That being said, like, it's not outside the realm of possibility that shareholders...
Are trying that thing.
...are like, you want to shut the fuck up about consoles.
Well, well, when you think about, well, here's the thing.
Now if you take that spin on it, you just have to go back a couple episodes to when we were
talking about how rude they were being in that meeting and how they're getting almost,
like, just venomous.
With their questions.
I don't, I don't understand.
Why don't you just put it all on the smartphones?
That's just how stockholders who aren't in a video game, that's how they are.
Sound, right?
But that, that would be a likelier story.
Stockholders as opposed to the, you know, if you own stock, you're a jerk confirmed.
So, you know, until the actual mutiny happens...
Well, see, I would like to think that plans for the next system and handheld are too far
along to have a mutiny right now.
Or maybe they're just far along enough.
Even, even if there was like, like firewater replace everyone, like, it's too, that shit's
going to happen.
That ship has to save.
Yeah, it has to save.
The bottle is already spinning.
There's too much investment, I imagine, by now to cancel the next two items.
We know what happens when you do Sega happens.
Yeah.
And you know that story too well.
And they were, they were drinking champagne over it.
Wait, so what happens?
They make their best console and 40 amazing video games in the next couple of years.
And then, and then self-destruct.
But, but no, like...
I know, I know, I know.
Some things better left unsaid.
For Sega.
The other, the other bit coming from the, the mill.
The mill.
This week.
That you should be all fucking uppity uppity about.
Uppity uppity uppity.
Maybe.
I probably think, I probably know what you're talking about, but you gotta give me a little
piece.
People that owned a GameCube in 2002 should be happy because we might be getting a remake
of, a rebirth of remake.
What?
A remake of remake.
From who?
The remake remake.
Oh, you didn't catch this.
Oh, let me pop it up.
Okay.
From Capcom, obviously.
From Capcom?
Well, yeah.
They owned Resident Evil.
That shouldn't be too hard.
Like, those assets were clearly rendered at a higher resolution.
Also, they re-released Remake on the Wii.
Yeah, I remember.
I remember.
Yeah, so the source is going back to a dude on Twitter who...
Which dude?
He's an insider.
A son or a seed or a seed.
That's Thuwe, right?
It's this little at Thuwe next to it?
No.
That is a parrot.
Oh, it's a parrot?
It's a parrot.
Yeah.
Then it's Thuwe.
Oh, okay.
Yes.
It might be full of shit then.
Or it could be super real.
These are the realest things?
Okay.
Thuwe as a leaker has been pretty much like 60-40.
Okay.
Because here's what he says.
Rebirth.
Rebirth.
Rebirth.
Rebirth.
Rebirth.
Oh, gosh.
X1, PS4, 360, PS3, PC.
Release date 2015.
Pay attention when I said re-birth.
If you own the GameCube and 2K2, you'll be pleased to hear this announcement.
And then just Remake.
When they had that big, huge Capcom poll, there were a lot of questions about do you actually
want to see more remakes of like the old Resident Evil series, which caught me off guard because
I thought they had forgotten about that shit forever.
But they're aware.
They don't just forget about your best game.
You can't.
Like, come on.
You don't work on them.
We saw.
But you don't forget.
They're taped to your work.
Tell that to the guys who can't recognize Mega Man.
Yeah.
We saw the list.
Right.
That's real.
We saw the fucking giant state of affairs website that they put out with the brand
of power for every single one of their things.
Ari's fucking up there, dude.
Ari's number one.
Oh, no.
No.
Monster Hunter's probably number one now.
Ari's don't think they're number one.
But yeah, over time, probably.
Like they're not just going to like pretend the hell of a fit is done in the room.
Well, those pre-rendered backgrounds for Remake are probably like rendered at a much higher
resolution than the version that we see.
We can only hope.
Like they're all super high quality.
We can only hope.
Could you imagine we get like a 1080p Remake, but they are grainy as shit images.
That'd be really sad.
And the models were actually like you've seen Remake, right?
Yeah.
Or like the models in that are fantastic.
They would go beautiful.
They would go beautiful.
Yeah.
They would do like Square Enix.
But hell, you wouldn't have to do that much.
Or you could just throw antihisting on it would be great.
I would love that.
That's the thing.
But that being said, shut up.
Give me RE2 Make.
Give it to me.
Sure, sure.
It's the thing we all need.
No, you'll buy RE2 on the GameCube and you'll like it.
I already bought RE2 on the GameCube.
You'll do it again and you'll like it.
My dumb brain feels like games like that with the pre-render background are way less expensive
to work on.
They are.
Sure.
That's why they did it back in the day.
The question is, does the existing pre-render look worse than what today's, than the order
or what today's games look like?
Because if you look at FF7 pre-renders, it's a little rough.
It's a little rough.
It's a little rough at all.
Even the backgrounds, if you look at them and you're like those need to be redone.
They're rough.
The question is, does it do remakes?
The remake renders, assuming they were rendered at a high resolution, like at a master file?
It doesn't matter what resolution they were rendered at.
The raw stuff, the raw stuff.
But it's whether the raw stuff is night down.
Well, the raw stuff, like the version we got looked amazing and it still looks amazing.
So as long as you can put it up to 1080, then I see no problem actually just doing that.
Even then, that will be another line in the long history of Capcom test games.
The real question for me though is just kind of like, this guy, he's 60-40 you're saying?
Yeah, he's had some pretty wrong shots.
But he's had some real rigors too.
I'm really mad with Naughty Dog where he was like, yo, they're showing Uncharted behind
closed doors and I'm Naughty Dog replied like, no, we're not.
Don't please say this kind of stuff so our PR guys have to do work.
Well, how do professional leakers like him and some of the other guys?
Well, they don't know a book.
That's the thing.
It's not a profession.
No, it's not a profession.
Here's what it is.
I have friends in the industry and I don't assert the level of quality control over the
rumor mill that someone like Seaboot would.
Okay.
And that's it.
Like, I have less to lose because I'm not directly connected.
Yeah, exactly.
He's a guy who's probably not even directly in the game business.
He just knows a bunch of people that know a bunch of people and stuff gets down to him
and sometimes it's 100% legit.
Sometimes it's not, but he's not close enough to the source to actually be able to like
ascertain validity.
So sometimes he's wrong.
Like Lupinco was troubled.
Yeah.
Like Lupinco clearly worked for Capcom in some context.
That's why Lupinco was 1 million percent right every time to the day.
There's a guy you and I know with no, I easily identifiable links to Sony who knew about
and told me about Bloodborne before.
Right.
Yes, exactly.
Before Bloodborne.
Yeah.
You know.
It's very easy for that to trickle its way down.
It's totally possible.
Yeah.
I'm just, I just wonder at what point does like the legal problem step in.
The moment you work for them.
The moment you sign a thing that says don't say anything and then you say something.
But it's the classic thing.
It's like say I signed an NDA for Bungie, just don't talk about destiny, right?
Now if I were to talk to my cousin out in the sticks and tell him all the stuff and
then he would say everything to the internet anonymously, like I broke the rules talking
to him, but who cares?
If anyone can trace the, if anyone can trace it back, sure.
So that's why you don't do it to your cousin.
That's why you do it to your old friend from college and you're all using anonymous screen
handles and shit like that.
Yes.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Other things going on, we've got...
Is Crytek on there?
I really hope Crytek's on there.
Taking away Crytek's not on there.
Crytek's on fire.
Remember last week when they were on fire?
The week before that when they were on fire?
Yeah, I don't know what their PR says we are not on fire.
They are now, they have now...
The fire is not on fire.
They are now a raging inferno of which has not been seen since the Hellmouth.
They're lead graphics designer, just fucked off and quit.
Where does he work now?
Is it for Deep Silver?
It was for Deep Silver.
I think it is.
Because all the Deep Silver bought Homefront and a lot of Homefront...
I thought they had Homefront.
No.
I thought they were letting...
That's the news this week.
I was so confused by this, like I thought they owned it and then they were letting Crytek
work on it.
Crytek had that one.
What's Deep Silver?
It's associated with Crytek then.
And Deep Silver took a bunch of guys from Crytek.
Not took, sorry, but Crytek guys went.
Left and went to work for Deep Silver.
So now Homefront is off of Crytek's plate.
It's gone.
And they're probably going to have to restart development like significantly on the Deep
Silver thing.
Thank God Crytek's got that MOBA.
MOBA and Warface and that Rise 2 sequel that they can't get going.
Because they're arguing with Microsoft every day over the IP rights.
I can't hear the word Warface without LiveQ.
I know, right?
I know.
But Crytek has come out and said everything's fine.
There's nothing to see here.
Everything's great.
There is nothing to confirm or deny today.
That dog sitting in his house going, this is perfect.
This is exactly the way things should be.
Yeah, or whatever it is.
I would say that we should accelerate our expectations for the complete dissolution
of Crytek by months.
Well, the question is, do they have enough money for Warface?
Because if they're going to stick to one, it's going to be Warface.
I don't think they do.
I don't think they have enough money for anything.
But they might.
No one knows really, so.
But even if they do, I don't think Warface is going to save them.
I would put Crytek as dead within the next three months.
That's really extreme.
Is it?
That's not how fast, things don't die that quickly, dude.
Okay, fine.
On its deathbed within three months.
Like clearly going to die.
Like yeah, exactly.
You're going to have to hear about acquisitions.
It's not hard to turn around in a week and pump out a mobile game with all these assets
you've got.
So who knows what they'll do.
It just seems like their rate of dissent has been outrageous.
The most surprising thing to me is the fact that the French is all over his fucking home
front.
Yeah, so home front is confirmed.
That being said, the new home front looks a lot better than the old home front.
Confirmed cursed.
All the best luck to Deep Silver.
I hope everyone at Deep Silver is able to find new work in 18 months from now.
You mean Crytek or Deep Silver?
I mean Deep Silver.
Liam, you and I are a little too close to the party on home front.
Home front is about as cursed as anything gets in this fucking industry.
So I eagerly await home front three to kill Deep Silver.
Yeah.
But it's like home front, like all of this over home front, like a call of duty clone
that totally failed.
It's not even over rise, which people also don't care about.
Like thank goodness the new one looks good.
It looks fine.
Yeah, but that's what I'm saying.
Hey man, there's a bunch of guys out there that really want to tell the story of how
scary North Korea is.
Of Red Dawn.
Yes.
They really want to tell that story.
But North Korea isn't scary at all.
But no, look how evil he looks.
Oh wow, you're going to invade our country while simultaneously starving and having no
bullets.
Kim Jong made up name.
Moon?
Well, it was Moon in the first place.
Oh right, then they had to change it.
Because then that became real.
Anyway, who wants to sign up for EA Access?
Not Sony.
EA Access.
Not Sony, that's who.
Microsoft wants to sign up.
You evidently weren't there with me and Pat and Matt.
We're talking about it.
But if you're a sports fan, that's actually a pretty good service.
It could be worse.
I guess that's why.
But no, no, no.
When you think about who this is marketed towards.
Yeah, wait, but you should preface it with what EA Access is.
Exactly, exactly.
When you think about who it's marketed towards, it's a great deal.
This is a new subscription service that they're opening up where you pay five bucks.
Xbox One only.
Xbox One only.
You pay five bucks a month and you get access to pretty much all the EA sports games plus
Battlefield and Peggle.
It was five bucks a month or was it 20 bucks a year?
30, 30, 30, 30, 30, 30, 30.
And you get 10% off all EA titles.
Plus 10% off the titles.
Yeah, when you purchase them.
Plus early access to certain games with like a five day...
Yeah, early demos.
Yeah, early demos, five days in advance or something.
Trials, trials.
It's EA testing the waters with games as a service.
In this context and of the people who use those games like a service, there are people
that view Battlefield and the sports games as if they were goddamn yearly subscriptions.
Exactly.
Like, I used to, when I worked at the grocery store, Madden Day was the day that I get to work by myself.
Because no one's coming in.
And it was the same every fucking year.
And those dudes bought 360s to play Madden.
And you worked with the NHL guys.
Yeah, man.
It's like they're treating that like it's a subscription.
So why not just do it?
In that context, it makes sense.
Yeah, I was looking at it.
And for the guy who's going to buy Dragon Age or Mass Effect or Battlefield and they're going to buy all the DLC because they're a big fan.
This might actually even be like savings in the end.
If that style of the year is going to pick up.
If you were going to get everything.
It's a season pass for games.
And only their triple A's.
Yeah, basically.
Well, not everything though.
No.
They were saying it's just the triple A's.
What's just the triple A's?
Well, that are on the list so far.
Yeah.
And there's the vault, which who knows what will be added to the quote unquote goal.
But Peggle II is already in there.
Yeah.
That's not triple A.
Peggle II is pretty triple A.
That's not it.
Yeah.
Well, I'm sure Guardian Warfare will join it next year.
Modern Warfare?
Guardian Warfare.
Oh, Jesus Christ.
That's so confusing.
The thing is, Sony basically says this is not on our platform.
We don't think it's a good deal for consumers.
We don't think it's good value.
And it's like, no, that's not why.
It's because it's a direct competitor to PlayStation Plus.
Exactly.
Which I will go on record as saying is a way better deal.
PS Plus.
Than this.
I think it's the best service of this type.
PS Plus has become like a ridiculous amazing service.
Unless you're a guy that wants to just play the sports games.
Sure.
Then no.
That being said, it's only last year's sports games.
Is it?
Yeah.
Oh, then it's a fucking rip off.
It's not today's sports games for 30 bucks a year because they would lose so much more.
Yeah, you're right.
You're totally right.
You're super right.
So fuck EA, back to fuck EA.
Hold on.
It was a short time.
I still think it's all right.
Let me double check this.
Let me double check this.
It's not going to be...
The moment where it becomes horrifying is when stuff starts getting tied to this thing.
Of course.
Of course.
Hey, you want to play?
Like, this is EA's way into their own Xbox Live PlayStation Plus.
It's like...
It's an interest road to go there.
Because you know the EA server shit that lets them turn off multiplayer for games?
Yeah.
They want their own Xbox Live goal.
It starts with Madden NFL 15, NHL 15, FIFA 15, NBA Live 15.
So...
Is that this year's?
That's this year's.
This year's.
Okay, back to EA's.
Okay, again.
Oh, that is good.
I was under the impression it was last year's.
I just...
At the moment, like...
Sorry, EA was too easy to backslide to hitting you.
The moment I read about games and there's a capital M followed by an A, I just blank
for the rest of the sentence.
Yeah.
Okay, well, it's the 15th.
Thank you for doing your due diligence work.
The 15th, okay.
Is that the UFC?
That is...
The UFC is in the picture.
That's kind of cool.
I don't know if it's...
Yeah, Sony's reasoning or public reasoning for this.
It's complete bullshit.
It's obvious.
Well, that's the funny part because they're saying like PS Plus offers all these things
and whatnot and so to have this plus an EA specific charge monthly is just not a good
value for our investors.
Well, what they want for PS Plus is to have just free games all the time from various
publishers and if EA gets a special deal, then like, does that mean everybody else is
going to want a special deal too?
Exactly.
Like next year when Ubisoft jumps on this train, is this going to become a dangerous
game where people have like $200 worth of subs for games they will not like permanently
own?
You know?
Well, we have to see if this succeeds, man, because again, this is targeting a very specific
group of people.
Oh, definitely.
Yeah.
And you know, when you think about it, like...
Well, it has a specific group of people until Mass Effect 4 and Dragon Age come out.
Which one?
It opens up.
Yeah.
The EA game fans.
But it's definitely hard to pull this target group into the broader play video games besides
these...
Does that make me like a weird old asshole that when I just heard you call like Mass Effect
an EA game, I was like, it's a...
Bioware?
Like, I still don't like that Bioware got bought by EA.
I hate it.
That's old hat, though.
Yeah, but it still sucks.
Yeah, but I mean, they're a husk.
Yeah, you're right.
They are husks.
They even invented a great husk enemy for us to use in our visual analogy of huskhood.
Dude, when I think about Faith from Mirror's Edge, all those warm fuzzy feelings have an
EA logo right stamped in the corner.
Shit.
Mirror's Edge and all the new Edge DLCs.
Oh, yeah!
Like, in the big picture, this is gonna be a lot of stuff, but who knows what wins.
All your fucking rock band memories.
Warm and fuzzy.
Shit.
I'm excited for guitar hero to come back.
Stamped with EA, man.
Well, you're gonna have to wait a while for that to happen.
I think you are.
I think within the next year and a half, we'll see a free-to-play guitar hero we can buy
the guitar.
Uh, I think you're wrong.
Still waiting on Fancy Star 2, by the way.
It's coming this year.
Uh, is it?
Also.
That was the bet, and I'm not backing down.
No, the bet was 2013, and then we doubled down for 20 minutes.
Like, it might be free-to-play, but you'll not be playing songs from anything you know
or care about.
Well, no, you gotta buy the guitar.
You gotta buy the thing.
No, sure, you buy the guitar.
But I'm saying, the songs you're playing that are free, it will not be free.
You'll have to purchase those, because there's no way in hell they're getting those recording
artists on board.
Fancy Star Online 2 will never come out in the west.
They will.
Well, actually.
Never.
Give it time.
If there was a bet I could make with you, that I would be able to win under the context
of never, I would do it.
I think it's the only thing you could do is by the time three comes out.
Fucking nuts.
You're crazy.
That shit will never come out here.
Anyway.
We're seven months in, and I'm feeling more confident than ever.
We are eight months in, and I'm feeling more confident than ever.
You know what it is?
Four months.
We have this holiday for PSO2 to come out here.
Whatever.
You know what is coming out here?
I mean, even if it's only announced and I lose the bet, I'll be happy enough.
Yeah.
You know what is coming out here?
What is?
Are you hype?
Oh.
You've seen the trailer.
I know what he's talking about.
I know exactly what he's talking about.
Contest of heroes.
Contest of champions.
Whatever.
The new Marvel fighting game.
So remember when Marvel was, have you not seen this?
Remember when Marvel was pulling the rights from everybody?
Like, nobody can make Marvel games anymore, and this obviously affected Marvel 3.
It affected Deadpool, which had just come out.
And some other stuff.
Everything, everything, everything.
So they finally said, here's our Marvel game.
It's a fucking smartphone fighting game.
It looks like complete garbage.
It's the worst.
Oh my god.
This is coming right off the back of the...
I am shocked.
Coming right off the back of the $5 premium Guardians of the Galaxy's smartphone game,
which is good, doesn't have iApps, is a premium game.
I'm shocked.
You're not hyped for the fighting game coming from Kabam Studios.
I'm shocked.
I'm not excited.
That Max put up a reaction video instead of just throwing himself out a window.
Yeah.
Although my first thought was, let me jump out a window.
Like, dude.
It's the worst of all worlds.
You know, Liam, you know, just come here.
Come here.
Come.
You got it queued up?
Right here.
Alright.
Oh, man.
Marvel Contest of Champions trailer.
We're gonna live watch the trailer.
We're doing it right here.
Wow, this is live.
Oh, some event hub shit.
Kabam.
Oh, this is already there.
Oh, yeah.
You know you love it.
Look at that.
Isn't the art style super good also?
I love these combos, which are just, don't even look like combos.
And are all identical for every character.
Check out the hits done.
Look at the hits done.
Oh, this looks like trash.
Look, this is a cinematic move that you can totally do.
Contest of Champions.
The logo's not even centered.
That's what killed Marvel.
Oh, my God.
That's what killed fucking UMVC3.
Holy shit.
That's what killed Deadpool.
That's what killed all Marvel games.
Not that alone, but like...
Thanks, Disney!
Thanks, Disney.
But this fucking...
Your Nazi ghost continues to torment me.
Yeah.
That's...
You know what?
I'm happy Sony still has those fucking Spider-Man rights.
I'm happy that they're going to keep making Spider-Man games separately from this.
Like, you have to just look and go...
Keep the 7.0s coming.
Like, this was just...
Yeah.
Someone just looked at the numbers on this game and said, wait, we can do what we did
before with Capcom for this much le...
Fuck, do it!
It's garbage.
I never understood why the rights to these things always have to be fucking exclusive.
Why couldn't they just do this also?
Yeah.
Like, what was to stop them?
Marvel...
Disney.
Disney.
Right?
But also Marvel learned the hard way about contracts and how to sell them and how to sign
them.
And now they just play fucking hardball with it.
Oh, motherfuckers.
It's garbage.
Yeah, watch the Max Reaction video after this, too.
It sucks.
It's pretty good.
I will.
I certainly will.
But it fucking sucks considering their first big thing was Disney Infinity.
And that game's actually pretty solid.
Yeah, sure, for what it is.
And I was hoping, like, oh, good, we'll see some neat...
I have no vomit reaction to the Skylanders or the Disney Infinity.
Yeah, and now this...
And if they...
Don't you love it?
If they didn't, you can play as Iron Man.
If they didn't clean house on all previous games before coming to this, it would have
been like, eh.
Please, Sony.
But that's how it always is.
Look, the builds up.
Every time everyone cleans house in this industry.
Here's the table.
Get these dishes off the table.
But it's always...
Set the fucking plates.
Get your knife and fork.
You're gonna serve you some shit.
It's always like this.
And Sony's holding onto it's part of the table.
And they lift up the fucking plate, whatever, the platter.
The steam clears and just a turd.
Fitted and fucking gross.
And Sony's in the corner like, yeah, my microwave doesn't look so bad now.
Yeah.
Oh, man.
Sony never let go.
And then there's a crowd.
He pits forks outside with a picture of a steak.
Marvel.
Marvel.
Yeah.
Saying patch this.
The memory of a steak.
Yeah.
God, that's depressing.
It's the worst.
It's the fucking worst.
See, this is what Capcom should do versus Capcom versus Capcom.
So this can never happen again.
I'm thinking about it, but the fucking Marvel Avengers initiative, or whatever it was called
on smartphones, was not a bad game.
The Guardians game that just came out.
Not a bad game.
And then we get this fucking bullshit by Kabam.
Kabam.
Kabam.
Clearly a studio created purely to do this.
Purely.
It's name is Kabam.
Oh my god, go die.
The guys that just left, the guys that just left Yogg's Venture.
They're like putting together this.
Winter cool.
Winter cool.
You know, like.
Oh my god.
Do you know anything to wash that shit taste out of my mouth?
This is fucking rough, man.
Well, there's a bittersweet piece of news.
I can go bittersweet.
It started out really better than it got to be.
It's better than shit in your mouth.
Yeah.
Everyone thought this weekend that Studio Ghibli was shutting down forever.
And thankfully they're not.
They're just thinking about it.
But they're not okay.
No.
You know, they're not shutting down forever, but they're not okay.
I'm sorry.
Joy doesn't sell as much anymore.
It really doesn't, man.
Hey, if you like these guys.
Studio Ghibli was like this last bastion holding out against the grim dark.
No, anyone happiness for a dollar?
Anyone?
No.
No.
All right.
So hey, if you like Studio Ghibli, this probably means you should go see their next movie with money.
And then buy it.
And then buy it.
Oh, no.
Oh, no.
That number of Batman is coming for us.
Yeah.
You know, I mean, they're already like, basically it sounds like restructuring heavily.
So everyone's going to be like, let go.
Hey, can I, can I want to throw a rock at Square Enix for announcing a prequel trilogy to like an existing franchise?
And then saying, hey, look, everyone, it's chaos rings.
What's wrong with chaos rings?
People love chaos rings, dude.
Like you've clearly never played it.
It's really good.
People really love chaos rings.
I know the platform.
It should have been Mono.
Makes you go, yeah.
Like what?
On the Vita?
It is.
What do you mean the platform makes them go side?
No, the Vita, no.
See, here's the thing.
It's like Square Enix support, you know, mobile games to Vita, but no type zeros though.
No, I know, but they're good game.
I'm not going to say no to a good game.
It should have been like Manna or Chrono.
Regardless of what it is, I'm not going to say no to a good game.
I thought when you started this that you were going to go the complete opposite direction
and talk about the first screenshot from the Hitman movie, because that's the other thing
Square Enix slash Ida Sarn.
Yeah, sure.
I'll throw a rock at that too.
Yeah.
And you won?
New Hitman movie.
Is this starring Timothy Elephant or whatever?
Timothy Elephant is no longer attached.
Now it's the guy from...
Okay, that's not a good sign.
The guy from Homeland.
Yeah, whatever.
And the guy that played Spock.
He's bald?
Yeah, he's bald.
Okay, that's a step.
He's wearing a red tie.
That's good.
But it's not the guy who actually voices Agent 47, who also looks like Agent 47, who was
based entirely on him to make the character.
No, don't get him.
He's from Stockholm, it's tricky.
Don't do that.
There's an uncharted movie in Nolan North, isn't it?
Like, in that movie, I'll be really upset.
You should be Nathan Drake's dad.
Like, that's how it works.
Something.
You know, because he's getting a little older now.
They should cast someone who looks like him, but dub him over with Nolan North.
No, they should cast Troy Baker, and then have Nolan dub him over.
That'd be the fuck, yeah.
They'd probably do it live, you know what I mean?
Did you watch any of that Last of Us Live?
No, no, no, not yet.
I went to look at it, and it was scrubbing through, and it's like, this is a guy talking
at a podium.
This is a guy talking at a podium.
So then I turned it off, because I couldn't find when any acting was happening.
It was good, it was good.
Okay, I cued it up, and I'm going to watch it with my girlfriend later.
There was an epilogue.
Epilogue scene shown after?
Yes, I know.
That is not available on the internet.
But there is a description of what it is.
It's basically Joel and Ellie are not going to be in the sequel, shut up.
That's the epilogue.
That's what it's about.
No, we don't know.
We don't know.
No, that's what it's...
It's pretty explicit.
Yes, it's explicit.
It's like, if you were going to do a sequel, it will not have these characters.
Did you read the full description of what that epilogue is?
Yes, and afterwards they're like, we hope that's a fantastic goodbye to these characters.
Yeah, but you can never say never, because that doesn't mean anything else can happen.
It looks like we need to put money on the table here.
Well, no, all I'm saying...
No money, money, money.
All I'm saying is quite simply that they said the epilogue takes place a few years later.
Four years later.
Yeah.
Guess what?
Guess what?
Yeah.
They fucking do whatever they want.
Yeah, guess what?
What?
You're wrong, and those characters aren't going to be in the sequel.
I hope not.
Good.
A more cynical person would have just said the Last of Us isn't a video game, but...
Oh!
I hate those people!
So worst.
Yeah, we're not going there.
We're not, because it's a fucking video game.
There's no debate.
I shot a zombie in it.
I forgot!
I've been playing that!
It's great, isn't it?
It's great!
It's like, double the game!
Like you told me, play it for half an hour, then switch the switch on.
Oh my god!
I played it for like two minutes, and then put the 30 FPS switch on, and I think I threw up a little bit.
It's the true believer button.
Yeah.
And I'll make you a true believer in 60.
Also, camera mode's great.
It's okay.
But it's good.
I don't really care about that.
I like it.
So, taking pictures.
Taking pictures...
You know it is a video game.
Killer Instinct.
It's getting a retail release.
Oh, it is!
Yeah!
That's good.
I don't really care, because I didn't look into it too much, because I was just leaving for the States at this time.
Is it going to be on the disc, or is it a download code in a box?
No, it's the combo breaker pack on the disc.
It's the full thing.
Okay.
Because it's being made, essentially, because they're about to launch in, like, 40 other countries?
Well, it's being made because there's money to be made, and it's got...
Well, the X1 is about to launch in, like, a ton of other countries that it didn't start in.
The tier two countries.
And there's a ton of those countries where people are not going to have the internet.
So they're like, here's KI on a disc.
Yeah, there gets.
And they're going to have TJ combo in that set.
And then I will assume that after season two is over, there will be a season two version of that disc.
You know what?
Probably.
I wouldn't say no.
Unless season two takes.
Probably.
So that's cool.
Unless I eventually get an expo, and I'll be able to, like...
I...
When I'll be able to pick up, like, Killer Instinct in a bargain bin for, like, $12.
I think I'm just going to do the download.
Because it'll have been, like, ten years since it came out.
I'm a retail kind of guy.
I'm not...
For things like this.
Yeah.
Absolutely.
Because I'm totally going the way of digital.
No, I agree with you.
But for things like this, I do want it for sure.
I won't want it on my shelf.
That's for sure.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I think I'll keep the download version around to play all the time.
Certainly, you know.
But you got your options now.
That's nice to know.
I desperately want for KI to be the top selling game in Japan for Xbox One.
Oh, that'd be fantastic.
Fantastic.
That'd be great.
And for KI to not only be the most successful, but a fucking successful game in Japan.
I don't think that's outside the realm of possibility.
I don't think it's possible.
To the point where Microsoft is, like, sponsoring some SBO, like, tournaments and shit.
No, to the point where they make an anime.
Oh, my God.
Liam, stop it.
Stop it.
That's too much.
I want KI to be magically...
Speaking of, like, the anime voicing character is in the background.
Speaking of anime, hey, did you catch up?
I haven't seen episode five yet.
Oh, it's fucking...
But did you watch five?
It's bad.
So what do you think of one through four, which I spoke about?
It's really bad.
Can't do it.
Does that get on?
Yeah.
Every episode we have to...
Yeah.
The boy is it bad.
What's really sad is that it would be way less bad if you just removed the main character.
Isn't the other character way better?
Yeah.
Really good justification for being messed up.
This is the exact same thing that you said last week.
I know.
We're just fucking...
It's gotta be shorter this week.
I'm enjoying it more than I should.
That's why I had to bring it up, because it's like...
It's entertaining.
It's becoming my secret, extremely public shame.
Yeah.
I can't...
That being said, we will talk sword art in two weeks when the game comes out.
Speaking of public shame...
Speaking of public shame, do you guys see the new AC5 trailer?
Sorry, what?
The new AC5 trailer?
What about it?
I saw tidbits of it, yeah.
Now with 100% more female characters.
Still not playable, but there you go.
There's a female character in the game.
I don't...
I get it, but I don't even know if he plays a role.
Don't draw attention to it, kids.
That's all.
That's all I'm trying to say.
If you're not going to change it...
All I'm trying to say.
Thank you.
Then pretend like it never happened.
You can either steamroll ahead and just go fuck it.
Or you go, alright, we're changing everything.
No one likes to see...
No one likes to see...
No, look, it's not so bad.
Are you doing the thing we want?
No.
Like, that's what it is.
And you can't help but feel that taste in your mouth
when you walk away at the end of the trailer.
Well, she can throw this out playable because I don't know.
Yeah, it's someone that's going to be helping in the battle.
Some character or whatever.
And just statue.
And, you know, that's going to be part of the pre-order thing.
Hey, sec, you get a whatever.
So, that's all.
Just, you know, go one way or the other on it.
Just shut up.
Yeah, it's so fucking...
But, hey, you know, what is cool about Yubi
is they're letting Michelle Ansel do his thing.
I'm so happy.
I love this news.
That's really, really cool.
Michelle Ansel is starting his own studio.
Mr. Rayman.
While still working at Ubisoft.
Interesting.
That's awesome.
And the team's already together.
I feel like they've taken, you remember, Blood Dragon.
And Blood Dragon was this weird gimme for the devs.
Just like, ah.
Yeah.
You won't quit if we let you do a pet project.
I feel like this is the logical extension of that.
The child of light and valiant hearts.
Where it didn't work for Capcom.
Hope it works for Ubisoft.
I mean, look, it's like it's keeping him happy.
It's something Doty wants to do.
And they're like, you want guys who are creative.
You need to keep Michelle Ansel around.
Yeah.
No matter what.
It's going to happen.
Yeah.
So when he's going like,
When he's going, hey guys,
I have a hankering for some small indie darlings.
You know, you go, yeah.
No, do your thing.
As long as you're still making the big thing.
It's what they reconfirmed.
They reconfirmed.
Because that's still coming.
Because why not double down on this news.
By going like, hey, he's doing his own little thing.
But he's also working on Beyond Good and Evil 2.
And he's, it's coming.
So it's, it's, it's, I remember a year ago,
I was talking to you, Liam.
And like we were screaming about Square Enix.
Yeah.
As we all are want to do.
And we were talking about basically how the thing that
fucked up modern Square Enix the worst is just talent bleed.
Like just losing talent over time.
Yeah.
And losing all the people that make all the really important things.
And like how, I don't think they even know that.
Dare I say like all the major Japanese, like.
You work around with it.
Yeah.
The major Japanese publishing companies.
Like have all had enormous talent bleed except for Nintendo.
Konami's the only one like that still has it.
Yeah.
But it's Koji Pro.
It's the one team.
But it's not Konami.
It's specifically Koji Pro.
Exactly.
Like Konami didn't lose much.
And seeing, seeing like Ubi start down that path with Patrice.
And then like realize that they don't want another god damn Patrice Dicelle show.
Yeah.
Like it's, it's, it's the cockles.
Getting a little warm.
Lukewarm.
Ubi's often a weird place for like.
To the point where he's like protesting about the Rayman release outside their door.
And they're just like.
Well that was a joke thing.
But yeah.
What do you do?
They were really sad.
They were really, you know.
No, no, I totally agree with him.
Like he gets carte blanche man.
Ubi's often that weird place for like half of their games.
I just roll my eye and ignore.
And the other half is like I can't look away from them.
Yeah.
It's very cool.
In that weird French way.
They're big enough that they have that much put that they're putting out.
But they're big enough.
They've got end in all that shit.
But they're big enough and they're also cool enough to make that other stuff.
Yeah.
So Ubi's.
Big like Activision and not be cool enough.
Ubi's a weird place because there's the gross stuff over here.
And there's like the unapologetically just good stuff over here.
Yeah I know that.
It's not like EA or the gross stuff is literally touching all of the good stuff.
And Activision we have to like finger pick the good stuff or like.
Is this the good stuff this year?
I don't know.
I mean no.
There was a bit of time between VG&E 1 and like I don't know everything after that when
we were like.
Yeah definitely.
But then I remember seeing the trailer for like Outland and being like oh.
Yeah.
Outland.
You guys are on this a little bit.
Okay.
Yeah.
You know.
Well and of course Child of Light Valorant.
Child of Light Valorant.
You're actually gonna have to be by that.
The Rayman games.
The Ubi art engine.
That being said they're still a big dumb game company.
So I eagerly await their next big dumb mistake like the female character thing.
Like the fucking culture that you are.
No but it's literally inevitable.
Like the thing turns too slowly and the people that make the decisions are robots.
Yeah.
They're not humans.
And if it's not that then it's gonna be the thing like the reaction to their press conference
or whatever.
You know.
Your capture the flag thing is the gender of your character.
Yeah.
Whatever.
Just like that stuff.
And yeah I'm a vulture or whatever.
Yeah.
It's hilarious.
That's what we do.
Because you know it.
Seeing somebody trip and fall in like a slow motion the fall takes two hours.
It's hilarious.
And they're making a gap thread about it.
Yeah.
Oh it's so good.
Did everyone see that guy trip and fall?
Yeah.
We talked about it for four months.
Oh shit.
Let's like armchair speculate on the status of the company as a whole.
The other and talking about like like indie bits and indie darlings or whatever.
Face punch.
They put out this little trailer for a project they're working on.
Who are they again?
The name.
Yeah it sounds familiar but I can't quite.
They made a fuse.
Fuse.
Wait what are you sure they made fuse?
Hold on.
Yeah that was awesome.
Sorry.
Hold on a second.
Hold on a second.
What the fuck is.
That's really familiar.
It's so familiar.
It's the other game with a title similar to that that I fucking.
Overdrive.
No.
No.
Title that's similar.
Not my game.
Whatever.
I don't know.
Let's move on.
Because we're making a game called deuce which is.
Is it where you take shit?
No.
It's like a tennis game.
But it's kind of.
Oh cool.
It kind of reminds me of wind jammers because it's got like superpowers on it.
Really?
And the description of it is like a street fighter meets like tennis or something along
those lines.
Yeah let me do a little fact check for a minute.
Deuce is such a good name for that kind of thing.
She takes shits on the court.
That's not what it means.
Here's a big deuce.
That's really not what deuce means.
That's not at all.
Love set.
15 love.
What?
Yeah.
You know what love?
You know why they say love?
No.
Because it's the O is like nuff which is like the egg.
Okay.
That's why they say love.
Yeah exactly.
No.
Whatever.
Take a big shit on the tennis court.
Big dump.
I think we need a wind jammer's remake.
I'm one of those guys.
Yes we do.
I'm fucking.
So when I see anything slightly resembling that.
You know what a wind jammer is right?
Rust.
It's the developers of rust.
You know what a wind jammer is right?
Rust.
Oh and they rust the end for this.
It's true.
They're organizing squeals of a trapped herd.
Yeah.
Okay.
It's a wind jammer.
They got slammed for this.
Did you catch that?
For deuce?
No I didn't.
Basically they're making rust right?
And they're pretty much scrapping.
This is that.
Okay now everything's coming together.
They're scrapping a lot of rust and going back to the drawing board for a lot of it.
I'm not super in on it so I might be wrong on a few little things.
The fury.
That was the thing where the zombies were there and then they decided to change.
Well they're changing.
For context.
And then they announced this game that's being made by like one or two guys on the side.
For context.
Rust is a.
And everyone's like fuck you we already bought rust on steam because it's a what is it called?
The unfinished games program.
Open beta.
Well no.
The unfinished games program.
Rust is one of those like DayZ games but it was also like it flourished as early access
where they threw it up super early.
And we're like wow this is not finished.
But pay for the beta and we'll work on it like Minecraft.
And now that before that games anywhere close to done they've announced the new game.
They've come out and said that like we still have like 35 guys working on rust.
There's only one or two guys working on this other thing.
But people still aren't happy about it.
Yeah.
I mean again it looks like really early the little footage thing they showed you know.
But I just kind of am like I really just want a pong slash tennis game with powers.
I think their reasoning makes sense.
Like to put but also you opened yourself up to this by selling unfinished games.
Like this is what you should have expected.
Because you didn't finish it yet.
So you should finish it.
You sold it to probably hundreds.
Rust is super popular.
Exactly.
Hundreds of thousands of people.
Well you know there's a healthy backlash to the unfinished games program.
There's a healthy backlash to that going around now.
You know what early access should be for?
It should be for games that got kick started and are going to be finished to use as their beta.
Like wasteland.
That's what early access should be for.
Yeah I don't think you should put paid things on early access.
And yeah I know Minecraft was technically the first early access.
And that's why it became super huge.
But that notch never finished that game.
Well I was going to say that being said.
Minecraft was never finished.
But the difference with Minecraft is they did that privately.
They didn't want Steam.
You know they kept it to themselves.
I feel like early access stuff has been kind of moved off the main page.
I'm not sure.
It doesn't seem to clog up the Steam front page as much anymore.
It shouldn't be anywhere on the Steam front page.
You're totally right.
It should be in the garbage bin.
That's like if they advertised films that didn't have the CG done yet.
Yeah which they do sometimes.
But then you can go see the film without the CG in it.
Without the CG in it.
Yeah.
They'll come back when the CG's end.
And they never put the CG in it.
Exactly.
If you can track down the trailers for the first Ang Lee Hulk movie.
The first trailers had unfinished Hulk CG in them.
And it was really weird.
That looks super good.
It was so thin.
Like why would you put that out there?
That looks super great Liam.
Oh okay.
That's awesome.
You know what else is in development?
What else?
Any video games in development?
Yeah there's some video games in development.
A New King of Fighters game is in development.
I was just gonna say it's tricky to win generous.
So that topic.
And it might not be Patchy Slot.
So that topic threw me for a hard loop.
It blew me so fast.
Because the constant thing is like New King of Fighters, New Samurai Showdown.
You click and it's like for Patchy Slot.
And you're like oh.
So I clicked on this one in my mind already saying for Patchy Slot.
And I go in and it's like there's no mention of Patchy Slot here.
There's no mention of all.
And the little logo image thing on the Japanese Playmore website is a Kyo Kusanagi model.
With a fucking wireframe on it.
Like a mesh.
And you're like are you implying that you're going full 3D?
It's probably the right thing to do at this point.
But they spent all that money.
What did you spend all these sprites?
I know.
I know.
You can't do that.
No.
Yes you can do that.
Or else you make more sprites that cost more money.
Yes do that.
They already dug the hole.
And it's beautiful.
So KOF 13 will just be this weird amazing relic of a time that might have happened?
Like they're not attracting enough people with these KOFs.
They need a Street Fighter 4 to blow up, you know?
That's what KOF 13 was supposed to be.
And it didn't blow up.
They need to try it again.
Well King of Fighters is not as popular as Street Fighter.
Unless you're speaking Spanish or Portuguese.
But Street Fighter blew up like that because they had the legacy.
Oh I know.
But they can't just keep saying we're okay with selling this much.
When really they need this much to save the company.
Because that type of reinventing your IP and putting it out in a way that will attract people
that have never played before.
God damn it.
It's going to be fucking maximum impact 3.
That's what I'm afraid of.
God damn it.
I will look at a new KOF.
I will not bat my eye at KOF 14 if it looks the same as 13.
Because it's going to be the same on Approachable Gameplay.
I don't want to touch that.
But that on Approachable Gameplay is great.
There's four jobs.
No but I'm saying that as someone who likes fighting games.
I have no interest in KOF.
I just have no interest in KOF.
I will give it another look.
Let's go to the pro cars.
If it shines up again.
No.
Yeah but like.
I don't think.
I don't personally think.
This is borderline on like you're totally right.
But then everyone who loves KOF as it is.
Like I have no interest in a 3D KOF.
And how many people said that for Street Fighter 4?
Tons.
Well it depends on whether it's on a 2D plane or not.
When the first teaser trailer came out with the camera going around everyone was like
it's going to be 2D or 3D.
Look at that.
I want to say that it said it's 2D plane.
No.
But you remember how many people said I'm scared of it being 3D.
Yeah.
Not even like.
Well because in the original version of Street Fighter 4 the hitboxes were 3D.
I know.
For a huge portion of the game's development.
I know.
And then they rejiggered all of them right before the game came out.
Everybody said a fuck Street Fighter 4 for not having 2D screens.
Yeah but I don't want Mira.
Mira has side stepping.
And I certainly wouldn't call KOF unapproachable.
I think that it's like.
Any game with a team with more than 4 buttons is unapproachable.
It only has 4 buttons.
It's a 4 button game.
It's a 4 button game.
So good job approaching it.
But I mean it felt pretty unapproachable.
You have to.
When you talk, when you don't have this discussion, you talk about the jumps.
There are 4 jumps.
There's a roll.
There's 4 jumps and a roll.
Yes.
There's a lot.
But you just describe what there is.
There are 4 jumps and a roll.
Smash Brothers has a dodge, has a roll, has 2 buttons.
Smash Brothers has 2 buttons.
And then all of the other has 4 buttons.
It's 2 buttons.
What commands?
You press a directional button.
I know.
And the whole thing about Smash is how easy to approach it.
It's incredibly easy.
But it also has those things that has that level of movement if you get into it and play.
It's way easier.
There's no inputs.
I mean unapproachable to me is like if you were going to describe like Virtua Fighter.
I was going to say, I'm not saying Virtua Fighter.
I would say that Virtua Fighter is in a weird state of very approachable and not approachable
at all.
It depends who's around you at the time.
When I say unapproachable, I don't mean Virtua Fighter.
I just mean it's not Street Fighter.
But a lot of things are not Street Fighter.
No, no.
But I'm saying they've always wanted to and still want to have that level of movement.
Guess what idiots?
They're never going to beat Street Fighter.
They're going to keep trying to get there.
This is the call of duty thing.
They need to make more money.
SNK, they're going to fucking disappear if they don't make more money.
I would rather get a fucking 14 with these sprites and have the company go away than
have the series go to 3D.
I think they just want to make a profit man.
I think like first things first and you know and they see that they see Sam's show and
they know people love Sam's show enough that they can probably put something out there
once every 10 years maybe and try to get like the old fans excited enough.
First.
Like I think unapproachable implies that like just no one can get into it and whatnot.
But KOF 13 did have a pretty strong following.
It had a pretty good you know, EVO lifetime.
Sure.
People still play it.
And I would not say that.
Like I clarified, I mean unapproachable as in it's not Street Fighter.
Well neither is the ArcSys games.
I know it's not.
And they're, I would say they're more unapproachable.
But they're Persona.
No, the Persona ones are very approachable.
Blaze Blue came out of nowhere.
But Blaze Blue came out of...
Blaze Blue's art.
It's terrible.
No, but it is.
It's anime.
The art is so appealing to so many people.
Oh, people with bad taste.
Sure.
King of Fighters, I love King of Fighters art but it's in that weird spot where it's
realistic and those anime guys aren't going to get into the art.
I think we're just going to have to disagree.
Yeah, we're going to have to agree to disagree.
You know, it is the numbers.
The only reason they make all these...
Casuals are ruining King of Fighters.
But they never played King of Fighters.
The only reason they make all these patchy slot and iOS and...
They do need the money.
They do need the money.
Well they make ten times as many and give me sprites.
It's not worth it.
It's worth it to me.
I just, I would be amazed if they really just said fuck it, throw all the money.
No, no, you know what they're going to do?
You know what they're going to do?
The models are for the new characters.
And they're going to keep the sprites for the old ones.
Yeah, get started more again.
I mean, look at Guilty Gear.
Look at Guilty Gear.
It looks fantastic.
It does.
You're right.
They're trailblazing new fucking territory.
And I don't have faith that Arc...
Sorry, that SNK can do that sorcery.
But they did.
The whole thing is...
And then they just drew over it.
The whole thing is they're hiring...
In gameplay?
Yeah.
No, no, stop.
Hold on.
All those sprites were made with the 3D model first.
Yeah, I know.
And then they just lit it with hand-drawn details.
I know.
Yeah.
But getting that running in a game is not the same.
But they're hiring a whole new team too, so we don't even know.
It's a whole new world.
Just call it...
K.O.F.
It's ruler of...
Just call it K.O.F.
Fightmans.
Magical Shinpan.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Getting Doki Doki over touching these witches, guys.
And they have the sequel to that, which we were tallying off, young boys.
I think there was one boy in it.
I'm pretty sure there was one dedicated to tallying off boys.
That's a different game.
Oh, that's a different game.
I thought that was SNK.
I think it might be SNK.
That's some creepy shit, man.
It's...
It's...
It's...
Thanks, Japan.
Like, we could.
No, really.
Thank you.
Can't talk about the hit or miss costumes for Ultra.
Street Fighter IV.
Fuck, do they suck ass!
Except for the ones that are awesome.
Yeah, the four of them.
Like, Chun-Li is amazing.
Their camis is really good.
I say it's right down the middle.
Jury's is great.
I say it's 50-50.
Of, like...
No, no.
I'd say it's 30-30-30.
Because some of them, like, a bunch of them are costumes that other characters already have
that were just given to a different character.
Okay.
Avery and Offensive, 30-40.
Avery, you has, like...
I'll take that.
Costumes that other versions of Ryu or Akuma have.
Hakans is terrible.
It's not...
Hakans is nothing, but Gile is Doctrine Dark!
Yeah.
Why is that?
Look at Balrogs, you know.
If you could do Doctrine Dark, why isn't one of them Scholomania?
Why isn't one of them Scholomania?
That's the true question we're getting at here.
Because Dalsam also looks fine, and he looks really cool, too.
I like Scholomania, you guys.
I really do.
Everyone likes Scholomania.
Okay.
Kamen Rider, Skull and everything.
Okay.
King of Fighters can go 3D if you bring back Scholomania's in it.
You bring back the EX characters.
No, shut up.
I hate those characters.
Alan Snyder.
That's all you wanted.
Just Scholomania.
No, you get a game with 39 slots filled with Alan Snyder recolors.
Watch me turn you around right now, Pat.
Watch me turn you're Darren Mister.
I think Darren's fine, but I have no love for Darren.
He's got a hundred percent damage throw combo.
Yeah, an EX.
That piece of shit.
It was crazy.
He was sick, though.
Fucky EX.
Oh, my God.
Crackerjack, man.
Anyway, whatever.
Fuck it, letters.
Let's take some letters.
It's mail time.
It's mail time.
It's mail time.
Yay.
Yay, mail.
We come sputtering one year later.
We've had a lot of good memories reading these mails.
This is Mailbag 51, right?
Did we do one in the first podcast, or did we just say you could mail stuff in?
Oh, yeah, we just said you could mail stuff in.
Oh, whatever.
It's a year of letters.
Don't be such an idiot.
Yeah, I'm just curious.
Don't be such a chick, sir.
Well, we've been reading a lot of these electronic mails.
If you were to want to have your electronic mails read by us, you would send us to what
electronic mail address?
Superbestfriendcastatgmail.com.
Not any other variation of that email.
That's not how emails work.
Not with any letters missing, not with any words missing.
Nothing added in.
Superbestfriendcast.
I know if you think that it's the right thing, but you actually type in the wrong thing,
it's still going to go to the wrong thing.
So that's superbestfriendcastatgmail.com.
The best of intentions doesn't matter.
And your letter might sound something like this being read by one of us.
Usually Woolly is.
He has the laptop.
Woolly is the pro here, really.
Connor says, to my loveliest Zabatsu.
Oh, thank you.
Connor, Connor.
I appreciate it.
I'm not going to take a dump in Liam's pants.
I'd say something profound about watching your channel or whatever, but I got some serious
business for you, gents.
That's how serious we got them.
Can't afford to lose any time.
This shit is pertinent.
Pertinent?
Bold.
Just a time limit on this.
I hope he knows that these are recorded at a certain day.
The subject of this email is nonstopinfinitepodcast.
Okay.
Okay.
Long story short, I'm trying to finish up nonstopinfiniteclimax playthrough in time for
BeoTube.
I've used either Siphon with Basilions or Shiraba with Kilgore.
Most of the game.
Sorry, Lieutenant Colonel Kilgore.
Yeah, that's great.
And the prologue for the first chapter was actually smooth sailing.
The playthrough wasn't too hard at first until I got to the fight with Jean.
Yeah, that part's the hardest part in the whole game.
I was not sufficiently prepared for the absolute butchering that followed.
That's probably the hardest part of the whole game in nonstopinfiniteclimax.
Like, what challenge have you undertaken in a video game that has led to you absolutely
flagellating yourself?
And I guess, alternate question, what the fuck do I do to give Balder what's coming to him?
Fighting Rodin.
So, it's this game.
I beat nonstopinfiniteclimax.
I beat Father Rodin.
And the pro tip for Rodin is there's two ways to do it.
The legit way and the bullshit way.
Stumb it out.
You can fight him and manually do it and it's the hardest thing ever.
It's gonna be a dick.
Oh, no, that's not what I was even gonna say.
You can use Kilgore kick trick, which helps.
Or what you can do is you can use the pillow talk camera trick in which enemies in Bale
will not attack you if they're not on screen.
So what you do is you run to the corner and charge up pillow talks, charge move,
and angle the camera away.
And then when he comes into it, you do the charge move.
I didn't even know about that.
Yeah, don't do that though.
That's that slain shit.
I don't know.
The kick trick is just cool enough to be valid in my eyes.
I did speedruns of almost all the Resident Evil games at some point.
Just like the no save, no death.
Get all the ranking stuff.
That's not too hard.
Thanatophobia and rogue legacy.
Trying to die less.
I got Zombie Genocider in Dead Rising 1.
I had to give up on trying to pure platinum operation 101.
Have you played operation 101?
It's so hard to pure platinum.
Alien Soldier on super hard.
I'd say also commando mode and buying a commando.
It's just the super.
Which one?
The remake.
The new one, whatever.
And it's not fucking like, it ain't no platinum game.
Use your life to help you.
But you fucking die.
Everything looks at you and you just drop dead in that.
Trying to beat the American Streets of Rage 3 in one stock.
I can't.
I can't.
I don't believe anyone.
I don't know.
Outside of games.
I would pay to see a human beat it.
On stream, whatever.
Just no...
Oh, okay.
Well, if we're talking one CC, that gets me into arcade things as well.
House of the Dead, I did it.
I won CC at House of the Dead.
Good job.
Ikoruga.
No, gee.
Ikoruga, I've made it up to chapter 3.
But no further.
Oh, we're not that dying yet.
No further than that.
I am not shmupgodpad.
Our friend did it, right?
Of course.
Yeah.
Yeah, he came out and he was like, okay, I'm going to play Ikoruga now.
And then he just beat it in front of us and got like a super high score on the final.
He was ranked like 40-somethingth on the world.
Yeah.
Rankings, dude.
Once I was up to 17.
I remember.
Those were the days.
I think he got 27 in prototype mode as well.
Fuck it.
Fuck it.
He's a shmupgod.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Aside from a game's built-in difficulty, like, you know, like, so like all the...
Artificial challenges and stuff like that.
Yeah.
I don't really tend to put artificial challenges on myself.
Like, for me, it's like, I beat it.
It's good enough.
You could say Nuzlocke, can't you?
Yeah, Nuzlocke.
Yeah, I beat Nuzlocke.
That was a grind.
But good luck, Carter.
Good luck, man.
It was me that did it.
You're going to fucking meet it, dude.
Learn to parry.
That's your...
Learn to parry.
And learn also, if you don't know, dodge offset by now.
Learn to parry.
Now be a good fucking time to learn.
I'm sure he does.
You'd be amazed.
You'd be surprised.
You'd be amazed how far you can get with which time.
And just not doing the actual dodge offset.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
But for...
And if you don't know what dodge offset is, type that shit into the YouTube's and you'll
find it.
You get to do the cool stuff faster.
Yeah.
And safer.
That's true, too, yeah.
Yeah.
We got one coming in from Mitch.
Hey, Mitch.
Mitch wants to know...
It's a Michio Kaku.
I hope so.
Can we just pretend, right?
He sends in like a two-part thing.
When what's the most progress you've ever lost due to not saving your crashes?
North Cave Final Fantasy VII save.
That's pretty far.
Twice.
One my brother overwrote and one was a memory card dying.
I had my Paper Mario the Thousand-Year Door save get corrupt after losing against the
final boss and quitting for the night.
It got corrupt.
Second to last dungeon in Golden Sun, part one.
Battery died right after beating the boss.
Sick.
Never even got to carry my shit over.
I want...
It never happened to me.
Killed the game for me.
It never happened to me.
Much less the franchise, really.
That's a runner.
Totally.
Never happened to me, but it did happen to a friend of mine and that needs to get honorable
mention, which is the veliest fight in FFT.
Just being a save runner.
Just being the fuck you, the game lied about how saves work.
Also...
You're fucked now.
I'm not sure how many hours in it is, but Chrono Cross, I think like your second or so
encounter with your rival type dude.
Thanks.
Perhaps.
Anyway.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Right there.
Safe corruption.
Shitty third party memory card.
Thanks, Madcats.
24 memory cards and one memory card memory card.
OG Madcats.
Slash Performance Company.
Slash Performance.
Liang number one.
I'll never get away from you.
What's the hardest stomping you've ever got?
In a game?
Yeah.
The first time I played Counter Strike.
Oh.
There's nothing.
Okay.
That was the, it's like, it's like covering yourself in chum and going into some of the
sharks and then bears attack you.
The worst stomping I ever got was when I went to Japan this time and I played Guilty Gear
Excerpt for the first time.
Against the computer.
Against another player.
Oh, okay, okay.
Like after I got the buttons and I was like, okay, I know what the buttons are and another
guy sat down and I'm like, I'm done, but whatever.
And I played with him the worst, most unforgivable stomping, presumably to make up for the time
I totally destroyed a guy at BlazBlue when I went there last time.
Okay.
Karma.
Unforgivable stomping.
I did not get a hit in.
For me, I'd say my match-up learning like sets against Chi Rithy, one of the best Kami
players out there and Snafu, one of the tops Dalsim players out there, if not again, questing
to be the best.
Yeah.
Well, they are the best because they're from Montreal, so that's how it is.
Exactly.
Sorry, so Cal.
Doing sets to a hundred with them and yeah.
And losing probably 85 of those matches, 85 plus percent of those matches, which is really
easy to grab a percent.
Yeah, that's true.
And the wins only come towards the end.
Yeah.
The beginnings are just perfect.
The first 50 was the end.
But man, do you learn the match-up.
I want to.
Oh my God, you learned it so good.
I want to.
I will never forget how to play against a Sim or a Kami.
To get to play against amazing god-like players like that and learn the match-up is such an
amazing fun opportunity because you play against someone who's good with another character
and someone who's even better will just destroy you.
In one, yeah.
You need to play the best in the world for 100 fucking matches.
And then you learn how to fight that character and use your guy against them in one night.
One fucking night.
One dense night, as long as you know how to play Street Fighter.
It's like a fucking P4.
Every fucking shadow you run into is a gold hand.
Yeah.
It's like a floor of just gold hands.
You're good after that.
I want to give honorable mention to Mid90s Starcraft.
Oh, sure.
Like, hopping on a battle net and just...
Sure.
Like CS and that were the two games that I remember.
Like you'd go in and you'd lost.
Like you just...
Like, CS, like, oh, the buy thing, bam, I'm done.
I don't think I lasted more than 35 seconds in anything.
I never hit a single per...
I played, like, 100 games of Counter-Strike.
I don't think I hit someone.
Ever.
And then I went and played The Better Game Day of Defeat, and I learned.
I remember there was a game called Crash Commando on PSN, which is kind of a remake of Solda,
which is an old PC game.
It's a 2D shooter, right, to control your character and jump around and stuff.
I once handed out the most absurd beatdown in that game, where I didn't know it was possible.
And I have a friend who was sitting next to me and watched, because I was obsessed with
this game.
He was in my roommate at the time.
I single-handedly won a team deathmatch in, like, a minute.
Because your score, your points multiply with your kill streak.
So I went through the whole team, and then the response, and I just ended up in it won
like 100 per game.
One of the reasons I loved Defeat so much, because that game is filled with tons of,
like, they're single-shot rifles, but they're basically just railguns.
And that game has huge distances, and you'd run into a situation where if you were doing
well, or some other guy on the team was doing well, like, you could beat the whole damn
team.
Instantly.
Yourself.
Yeah.
You just point and shoot.
And the bullet would go through three guys, if you were lucky.
Back in the day, James Small, he still talks about the time we all went down, had a few
beers, and, like, popped in BlazBlue on one of its first days, right, when Climbing Trigger
came out.
And I just played him with, like, my day one Noelle, and it was, I think it was like a
double perfect.
And, like, yeah, and it was exactly, just DDDDD, and, like, he's like, you ruined that
entire game franchise for me, I'm never like, I was like, oh, James, oh, what a bunch of
bloke and chums.
I'll bat your head in a Swarmy Moomoo.
Swarmy Moomoo.
Hey, guys, Michael wants to know what is a good example of a game that had a good gimmick,
but it was a bad game.
So, earlier this week, Game Informer read a bad article about a cool idea.
They mentioned games like Dark Sector, Parkouring and Brink, or the Insanity Mechanic in Call
of Cthulhu.
Yeah.
What do you think is a good example?
I think the almost obvious one is Kill Switch.
Did Kill Switch as a game?
I think Konami put that out.
That game sucks.
Okay.
But it invented cover shooting.
Before everything?
Yes.
Cliffy B, when making Gears of War, said, I looked at Resident Evil 4 and Kill Switch.
And I took Kill Switch as cover mechanic, and put it in Resident Evil 4, and then made
Gears of War.
Geez, yeah, okay.
Fair enough.
I got Evil Zone as my pick.
That's a solid pick.
Because, yeah, because Evil Zone, for all the reasons that people defend it, those are
the gimmick.
That's the gimmick in school.
And everything else is unplayable.
Oh, you're so, so bad.
Jurassic Park Predator, is it?
Dresspasser?
Dresspasser, for having a...
Every button is your...
A non-existent UI, and the really precise, like, limb control.
Limb control.
Okay, it's tasteless, but the heart thing on the breast, that is your health, that is
such a good UI design.
I get it, and I played it.
And like, it was...
Tasteless.
I was too young to fucking pick up a gun and hold it.
I couldn't...
I couldn't manage.
But like, somewhere in some universe.
I can't believe you actually played Dresspasser on release.
Like, that is...
That game wouldn't run on shit.
Like, that was one of those miracle confluence of events, that your PC was one of those combos
that could actually play the game.
You don't know about how much little bully...
I sped and ran like shit.
You had a friend who had a really good computer or something.
No, no, we had something back in the day, I run games, but we played a bunch of Sierra
Point and Clicks, and after a while I was like, Mom, what was the game?
Well, yeah, I know, but it was one of those games like FF7 for the PC, where it's just
like, 90% of people just cannot play this.
I have never to date ran into somebody that could actually play that game on release.
My brother and I love the shit out of Dress Park as kids, man.
Like...
The dinosaurs and shit.
Yeah, I just...
It doesn't come up often, but I was fucking in there, dude.
Yeah, no, but yeah, my pick is, and of course, he's Spider-Man Swinging Mechanics.
Yeah!
That's a bad game, great mechanic.
What are you going to do?
What are you going to do, Mike?
That's right when he shits on that game, but I didn't care about the game.
Which one?
Spider-Man 2.
Yeah.
But I don't care about the game, I would just swing for hours.
Are you going to play Energy Hook?
No, I don't know what that is.
Why are you going to play Energy Hook?
Does it look better?
It looks good, yeah.
Okay, cool.
Because Energy Hook is the game by the guy that did the swing mechanics, that snuck in
overnight and fixed it himself.
And it is a game about swing.
And it was on Kickstarter, and it made its funding?
Did it?
Made its funding?
Okay.
It's coming out.
And the footage that was around during the Kickstarter was not impressive to me.
It was also a very early build.
And so that's why I want to know if it looks better.
I like a real early build.
It's not, this is pre-alpha, like a real pre-alpha.
Give me some good news.
Yeah.
It's looking good.
Looking better.
All right, all right.
I like hearing that.
You can swing.
I, too, had it while running.
That might have existed before.
Hold on.
What year was that?
DMC II was when?
2003.
No.
2004.
I think it's 2004.
When was Guns the Dual?
Before that.
Before that.
Before that.
Guns the Dual had while running first.
Yeah, that's true.
That's true.
I fucking love that game, man.
I'm going to shout-outs to any game that introduced Parry before Third Strike.
Right?
Shit compared to Third Strike.
Mitchell wants to know-
Is that just Mitch?
No.
No, Mitchell.
Okay.
Mitchell O'Connor.
Some people are called Mitchell.
That's the name.
It's weird.
You've never known of Mitchell?
No.
I know a ton of Mitchell's.
Well, good for you.
You're weird.
You're weird.
You're weird.
I've never met another Patrick.
This is some real baby shifling game.
Big bitch is weird because it's like a relatively common name.
Go poo in Wally's diaper.
It's over there.
It's easy to do.
It's really big.
Mitch wants to know-
I don't think he'll notice, though, because of all the poo that's already been made.
You're just going to add to the mix.
Looking back on your podcasts and videos, do you guys feel that you've become characters?
No.
I was always a character.
That's super true for Pat.
You think it's a character and it turns out it's real.
That's real, Pat.
I've always been a weirdo.
I don't think so because I'd like to say that we find shit that's funny and we latch
on to what we think is funny.
And the fanbase recycles that and we go back and forth with the jokes.
Yeah, go ahead.
We go back and forth with what people laugh at, what we laugh at personally.
And the shit we do off-mic is not too far from the way we are on-mic either way.
No, definitely not.
I definitely think, for me anyway, I love Japanese games and anime and stuff like that.
I think a lot of people don't realize that anime is always going to be a distant second
to video games for me.
I am video games.
What about anime and video games?
Those are high up on-
No.
Anime adaptation games, but video games are the number one.
I feel like that anime guy character exists.
It's somewhat accurate.
And at the same time, dude, you talk about a lot of stuff that I'm not aware of because
I'm not keeping up with anime and I'm not keeping up with a lot of that.
But that being said, I feel like as far as Japanese media anime and some of that old shit
goes, I've seen quite a bit over the years.
And you've seen quite a bit over the years.
We all have, but we're just not necessarily up to date on that.
I don't feel that we're being characters personally.
Well, no.
I think rather people, their impression of me is a caricature of me.
Sure, absolutely.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I think any group of friends that know each other for a certain length of time will become
character roles in that group.
So if you meet a completely new group of people and somebody does something, anything, out
of the norm and you go, what's up with that?
The person will go, oh, he's the weird, ah, him and that thing.
And it's like that.
The only difference here is that we have a very public springboard that will make up
a dumb thing and then they'll turn it into an eight page Photoshop comment.
Exactly.
And then we'll play off of that for a while.
So the bouncing is, it's like, imagine you and anyone, normal person and their friends
is like playing with a super ball, right?
Yeah.
And you throw it and it'll come back to you.
Really, really hard.
But imagine us, we're playing with that super ball inside a racket ball room.
But we also don't know which super balls we're throwing in which direction.
And we just throw it off the wall and like 200 balls come back.
Yeah, exactly.
And pelt the shit out of us.
Absolutely, yeah.
Right, exactly.
So, you know, like I think that like, we always, we talk about it as like the lore, you know,
like new lore.
I have, there's an entire.
I'm so glad that, you know, people gave me a proper consideration for going over to
Matt's place while he was sick.
And taking care of my girlfriend, this girlfriend during the chrono trigger.
Please kick this Lord a bit.
That is my favorite.
I did.
But you did.
But nobody saw that.
That's not on Tumblr.
That was 5000 people saw it.
I did it twice.
I did it on 4chan a while ago.
So nobody saw it.
When it came up and then I did it again when it recently came up on Tumblr.
I have like one offhand comment being taken too far.
That's not a real result of someone lying.
No, but there was, I made a joke about that at some point in the, in the thing.
Did you?
Yes.
And somebody assumed that that was like the utter truth and then build a narrative around
it.
I was like, no, that did not happen.
Pat did not comfort Matt in his time of.
No, I would not.
That's not my job.
It's not, it's not, what happened there?
It's not happened at all.
And it's just hilarious every time it pops up.
And you know, we can wait and just let the fucking dust settle.
A little pop up next year.
My favorite, my favorite character based lore is stuff that's about me that I look at.
And I, I don't know what, what, how.
How do you remember?
How?
Where did this?
No, totally.
Where did this come from?
Exactly.
Like when I, for me, I think like, like the recent one was someone had my face on like
a bleach character.
And I was like, what the fuck?
His scenario is ending.
Right.
But my favorite, my favorite is, is me as Voltron made up of rap rocker.
Like it's like, what fucking possible origin?
How, how did this happen?
For me, it's Liam Milk.
Liam Milk.
It's like that came from nothing I ever said.
That came from the stream.
That came from the stream.
Exactly.
Given enough time with dirtbags and enough actual personality.
Like boring people don't have this happen to them.
So I'm sorry, boring people.
But if you're, if you're an interesting person, given enough time with dirtbag friends, you
will automatically become a character.
Become a character.
Yeah.
That's, no, that's, that's pretty much it.
I guess that sounds about right to me.
The vast majority of you are characters in your own circle of friends as well.
I guess all I can really say to that is, you know, when we do things like we're skits
or whatever, then it's like we are, we just pull all those, you know.
Make it all real.
We pull all that lore together into our big wrestling character of ourselves and do that.
Yeah.
You would say our persona.
One might say.
Oh God.
What's your arcana?
Me?
Yeah.
I don't know.
The tower?
The tower.
Fuck it.
The moon possibly?
Sure.
I recently had somebody telling me I'd be like the moon and I'm like, that's not good.
Yeah.
The moon are the worst.
Liam is the lover.
Liam is the lover.
Liam is the lover.
Liam is the lover.
I was actually going to say, can't I be a magician and bang my hot teacher?
Can I be judgment?
No.
No?
Judgment is a group of people.
Yeah.
And you don't want to be the world either.
No.
I'll be the world.
But the world is so cool though.
I can be the hangman.
Sure.
I'll take that.
Sure.
Fuckin, that's what happens to me every week on this goddamn.
There's a tragedy and you're like, I'll deal with it.
No, fuck it.
The hermit.
The hermit card.
Yeah, that's apt.
That's very apt.
Good luck getting that S-link.
Get out of my house.
S-link.
Oh, I guess we're friends now.
I just want to get out of my house, slam the door, screen freeze.
Persona 5 will have you play the role as a disillusioned door-to-door internet salesman.
Who thinks he's making friends with people?
But they actually secretly hate him.
More and more and more.
Oh man, that S-link menu just goes down forever.
Yeah.
And they're all at one.
And you can never get them higher than three, you know.
We got one coming in from Tucker, who says, Jets, right now I heard Pat and Wily are visiting
Japan shortly and as it happens I just got back from there, yadda, yadda, yadda.
If you guys think any, I got all the lore and learnings fresh in my head so if you want
any tips or whatever, do you think that'd be helpful?
There's a couple of versions of this, but I'm going to stand inside that there.
Absolutely, guys.
If you have recommendations for like cool shit to do in Japan, I am taking those suggestions
because I have a couple of friends I spoke to.
I'm putting together a little bit of an itinerary, but you know, I want to have some time to
just kind of like free-ball it.
Of course.
And yeah, a lot of you guys know better than we do what's cool, what's worth checking out.
Besides me wandering around Akihabara, checking out a temple or two, going on Hokkaido.
I have some books I can bring you on that.
So yeah, man.
Let us know, guys.
We totally are looking for that type of info.
That is really nice.
Yeah, I'm good.
Oh, you're good?
Okay.
All right.
The mess is making the itinerary for us.
Fair enough.
Fair enough.
She knows better than me.
All right.
Matthew says, long time listener, first time sender.
I love Bachamania.
Time to get sad, fuckers.
No.
I refuse.
Adopt belly rub or put down.
Oh, fuck this.
Fuck this.
This is the worst.
So your three choices.
It's a good variation on theme though.
Isn't it?
Isn't it?
I like it a lot.
Your choices are Jake the dog.
Oh, oh, oh, damn it.
Frender.
Chug.
And the littlest hobo.
Oh, oh, this isn't fair.
These are all good choices.
Adopt Frender, put down the littlest hobo and belly rub, Jake.
Okay.
Okay.
No.
Adopt Jake the dog.
Yes.
Because then your life becomes adventure dog.
You get to fucking go on adventures.
You get power armor.
I know, but I want Frender.
You can climb inside your dog as a suit of power armor.
Exactly.
That's the creepiest thing they have ever done.
The Jake suit is horrifying.
It's terrifying.
You totally adopt Jake the dog.
You belly rub London.
Yeah.
And if you put down Frender, you can build him back up.
Yeah, sure.
I want Frender.
Because he's a robot dog.
Yeah.
So you can rebuild up Frender.
So you put him down and then you reprogram him.
That's cheating.
Then I'll just go be friends with Jake.
Well, no.
No, if you can break the rules, I can break the rules.
Okay.
Well, hey, I don't feel as bad putting down a fucking robot dog.
How about that?
Sure.
Face.
Okay.
If you can just rebuild them.
And then if you adopt Jake, you can hang out and be like, do your bender impression.
It should have been Blade Wolf.
You know what I mean?
You can do it more with that.
No, it wouldn't have changed it for me either.
It's a robot.
There you go.
Robots aren't people.
I like Frender.
Yeah, sure.
But I don't like them as much as Jake or London.
And Jake's more fucking useful too.
See, the deal with London is you couldn't adopt him because he has to move on to another town to solve a different mystery.
Until tomorrow.
You guys like adventure time a lot more than I do.
Yeah.
I don't.
Yes, you have bad taste.
Okay, but just on principle, right?
Just on principle?
Magic stretchy dog.
Is glitch.
Like, that's what you're giving up.
You're putting down glitches.
Remember when he taught that bug how to dance and then the infinite party god was like, shit, you're partying so hard.
Remember when he teamed up with Jay-Z?
And they sang about New York?
No.
That's a, that's not.
Shut up.
It happened.
That's a remix.
Kitchy.
Somebody made.
Kitchy wants to know, is this question pretty kitsch?
Not quite.
What are your phone wallpapers?
My phone wallpaper?
Yeah, I'm pretty sure Matt's is a girlfriend.
Yeah, Matt's is a girlfriend.
Yours is either.
Mine is a you and I, you're being my stand.
I'll be the little girl and you'll be my stand.
My phone screen wallpaper is Link from Hyrule Warriors.
That's Hyrule Warriors.
My lock screen is my girlfriend, the llama on her head.
There you go.
Mama?
See, there's a little llama on her head.
A whole llama?
A little alpaca.
Alpaca, that is an alpaca.
It's a stuffed animal.
Mine is just fucking-
That's a detail.
Mine is Samus.
Just being Samus.
Is it your girlfriend?
Yep.
Yeah.
And his desktop wallpaper is that goddamn chick from fucking Tron.
Hell yeah, it is.
I've been that way for what, 20 years?
Tron legacy.
20 years.
I live in a wild, sitting in the silver chair.
Yeah.
I hate that wallpaper.
You fucking love it.
After 20 years, it's actually great.
What?
Every time I see the laptop, I'm like, oh, you didn't change it.
It's a nice wallpaper.
Dave wants to know, dude, that, that, that.
That movie?
I like that wallpaper.
Because that movie is one of those movies that, I had this discussion with my friend.
I know, but I'm just loving that you're like dignifying my stupid shit.
Because the response-
Because I had a really good discussion with a friend walking home the other day about
movies that would be better as art books.
Yeah, absolutely.
And Tron legacy.
Sure.
Should have been an art book.
I'm laughing because this is like literally one of those times where I'm just being a
shit to be a shit.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And you decided now is the time.
I pull the brakes.
I pull the brakes and turn to face you.
It's like-
To hear you engage me.
It's like, I have nothing.
What did you want?
I put the microphone in front of your face.
It's like, I'm fully aware I have nothing.
Are you satisfied with my nothing?
Dave wants to know, what game or film just needed more time in the oven?
It's full.
Well, Resident Evil 6.
99% of non AAA Japanese games.
They all have rough edges.
Yeah, it's true.
It is bad.
It's true.
There's one.
Okay, Freedom Wars even.
Can you use more time?
Mass Effect 3 is a very obvious example.
There's a demo for a game I played last night that I'm really excited for called Lost Dimension.
It's a strategy RPG by Furuyu, which is a tiny Japanese dev.
It cannot hit 30 consistently.
There are tons of little two second long loading screens all over, even during the battles.
It is just missing that polish that would make it solid frame rate and not have loading screens everywhere.
Lost Dimension is my fucking candidate.
Mega Man 1.
That game would be amazing.
Prometheus.
Whoa!
Whoa!
You're totally right.
I was having trouble thinking of a movie.
It's six months enough.
Needed another fucking year or two.
Fuck that piece of garbage.
Prometheus was taking a hard line stance on Prometheus being a piece of garbage.
Someone else's cut on it.
Like the not director's cut on that.
I think the wonderful one alone, honestly.
You think it needed more time?
It is impeccable.
The menus are god terrible.
The fact that there's no good way to see which wonderful ones you have is the worst.
Yeah, and there's tons of little rough edges everywhere.
Yeah, I do, but you have to mouse over every single one of them named.
I need a list of one to one hundred that I can go down the FAQ and go,
I don't have that one, I don't have that one, I don't have that one.
It's an impeccable game, but there's just niggling bits everywhere.
Also, let's not even get into the bit where there's actual game breaking bugs.
I experienced one.
Like many people experienced one.
Murder, soul suspects, could use some more time in the oven.
Good job idiots.
Yeah, idiots.
That's how that works.
Good job for not fixing any of those bugs more.
Yeah, track them yourself.
Track them yourself.
We're the programmers, right?
The story's not that great.
Finding a bug is the same as fixing it.
Don't interrupt the lore that you two built, soul suspects, by yourself.
I have to watch that series after it's finished, just to get the system out.
Somebody's making a compilation.
Oh, thank you.
K.I. needed some time as well.
Oh yeah, I didn't notice it because I didn't notice it.
They didn't have time to get the story out there.
Oh, just you mean it wasn't?
Yeah, okay.
They had everything but the bugs most.
Shadow Jager was just nothing from the YL.
Yeah, they just, you know, they dump.
No, you're right, K.
Yeah.
Like there are good games.
New generation and second impact.
Even more time in the oven, I guess.
Yeah, I guess it is, you know, like 1-1-1-1, K.I. freedom wars.
Like there's lots of fucking fantastic games that could use just a bit more.
Cross-Tec and needed more love.
I feel like State of Decay could have been something really, really outstanding if it just was more polished.
That game makes my video card scream and it's ugly.
Like it's just really badly optimized.
Borderlands 2 for Vita.
Oh yeah.
Suck it, Lang.
Yeah.
Yeah, I'm calling you out.
It's a really good port.
He knows.
But before they could use another six months, they could have had it.
I feel like you'd be like, yo, Lang, what's up with Borderlands 2?
And he just goes, eh.
Like angry Jeff.
And then Keats just like pops out from behind the corners.
Yo, he's really, really bad at dive kick.
Yo, I got one fucking motherfucking Wind Waker.
Yeah.
Yeah.
All right.
Yeah.
Questions thoroughly answered.
You're right.
That was a fun question.
Sean, that is S-E-A-N, wants to know, hey guys, my question is how the fuck does the sun stand work?
I just finished the episode and I don't fucking get it.
Dude, it's a sun.
It's hot.
It's a sun.
It gets hotter.
He has a little motorcycle, a little motor thing that has air conditioning.
It's just really hot.
Yeah, that's it.
It shoots lasers.
It shoots lasers also.
Get it?
That's it.
Got it?
Also, he has really good air conditioning because he's right underneath the sun.
And the AC in an unenclosed vehicle is enough to keep him cool despite the sun making it over 100 degrees.
This is the entirety of the situation.
No, but you know it's dumb when one Jotaro beats him and goes, oh man, that's dumb.
Yeah.
Yeah.
In fact, in the manga he says, like, he must have been under the effects of the sunstroke
because of how dumb that is.
Yeah, it's so stupid.
I can't believe that was his plan.
Yeah.
But he almost beat them, so fuck it.
We got one in from Budman.
Hey, Budman!
What's up, Budman?
Way to put in the effort.
Oh shit, now we reacted to a gimmick name, thus creating a new swath of gimmick names coming in.
What's a game that hurt a franchise genre so much that players got disgusted with that genre?
Oh, that hurt the genre?
That's tough.
I think New Generation did a fair deal of killing fighting games for a while.
Guitar Hero sequels.
The seventh one.
The Tony Hawk sequels.
The Guitar Hero World Torsion.
Tony Hawk.
BMXXX.
Once they brought out the instruments.
Yeah.
That's tough.
That's real real tough.
That's a good question.
Because you have to think, like, what franchises, what series died.
Pick a dead genre.
I think RE5 damaged survival horror to the point that it caused a survival horror backlash.
To become survival action?
Yeah.
And Dead Space 3.
Dead Space 3 hurt survival horror.
Didn't destroy it, because there's all that indie survival horror, but...
I don't know, because what other games?
I don't know.
Like, between Dead Space 3 and Evil Within, what other games?
I think RE6 hurt Resident Evil.
That's for sure.
Yeah, unfortunately.
Oh, that reminds me.
I came up with the perfect analogy as to, like, you know how I say Dark Souls 2 sucks?
And you're like, but it's great, right?
Okay.
Imagine a game that is stupendous and amazing, one of your favorite games ever.
And it comes out with a sequel that's pretty good, but when you compare them, you're like, oh, that new one sucks.
Okay.
Dark Souls 1 to Dark Souls 2 is RE4 to RE5.
I thought you were going to say third strike to second.
I thought you were going to say new generation.
But it's RE4, which is the most complete party ever thrown, to RE5, which is a great game in its own right.
But, like, come on, compared to the old one.
Although I give huge props for the co-op, though.
I give anti-props for the co-op, because you don't like co-op.
If you play it with a like-minded person, it's great.
I really...
Yeah, the like-minded person that plays co-op with me, they're shut the fuck up and be good.
Hey, after this question, I should get something out about something I did this week, because I totally forgot.
Say it right now, man.
Say it right now.
So, because I felt obligated to, I really wanted to try PlayStation now.
So I was like, okay, let me pay more than I usually would for a rental.
And I did.
Hey, you know what's there?
They dramatically slashed all the prices on that, like yesterday?
They are going to.
Or they announced that.
They haven't yet.
They announced that.
Remove that four-hour option.
Anyway, so I opted to rent a game that I know really well.
Initially it was going to be Street Fighter IV, but that wasn't available.
So I went for Resident Evil 5.
Right.
It worked way better than I expected.
And I'm operating on Canada Internet.
What's the input lag like?
It's pretty slight.
Six-seven?
Six-seven.
Yeah, it's really good.
Better than On-Live ever was.
Really?
Better than On-Live.
I'm surprised.
I'm looking at it on my bad Canada Internet.
You can tell you're watching a stream and not native gameplay, but that shit ran.
And it ran well.
I was able to play RE5.
I played like five chapters in.
Have you done, have you tried out other streaming services similar to this?
All of them.
All of them.
I think this is the best one.
I cannot wait for the Vita version because that is less data that needs to be transported.
And thus will probably ensure a higher quality stream relative to my Internet quality.
Okay.
Your homework is to go get Street Fighter.
Pick Phelan or Cami.
Do a couple of one-frame links.
Come back and report.
It's not available on it.
Street Fighter IV is not there.
I would have picked that one.
Oh, you said you were looking for...
Yeah, like, Willie, you and I have the fighting game online local argument like every fucking
two weeks where you're like, no, it has to be local.
I'm like, no, that's pretty much the whole argument.
But he's right.
You know, good luck getting good.
Get good?
You can't.
You're not in a situation that allows you to get good.
That's fine.
Then just never get good and then drop off when...
Online Warriors got good at Evo.
They had BlazBlue and DOA V when I said to myself...
That being said, that was just the preamble to that.
Like, me and you can argue about that and there's obvious pros and cons.
Like, yeah, you're right.
Local is the best way provided all ideas being equal.
Whereas my rebuttal is usually like, yeah, but that's not available 99% of the time that
I want to play fighting games and online is good enough.
But once you start adding streaming to this, like, fighting games are the worst possible
candidate for streaming game ever.
Like, it's like even assuming they could get it underneath 6 milliseconds, which would
work for the arc games, then you go online with that game.
And then you're dealing with 17 frames of lag.
I tried to remote play my PS4 on PlayStation Now, but you can't use PlayStation Now while
you're in remote mode.
Well, that's probably so.
But yeah, if they get the prices down or if they add a purchase button ever to these
games, I think it'd be a worthwhile choice.
I look forward to...
It totally works.
I'm going to see how long it is.
I imagine it will be forever until I actually try this because of how little value it holds
to me.
No, sure.
I just wanted to try it.
Yeah, sure.
I kind of all...
Sure, I might try it just to see.
Yeah.
But as of use it, I see myself using this legitimately zero times.
I see myself using it on the Vita because I prefer playing stuff in my bed to on my couch.
But it'll only be for specific games.
Like, there's not many games that I'm going to look at and say I wouldn't probably just
buy that.
I hate playing in my bed.
I can't think of a situation or a scenario where I wouldn't just opt to get the game itself.
Sure, no, sure.
As long as that's an available option.
It's going to be really handy for people who do buy a PlayStation TV or a Sony TV and
just have it built in, though.
Especially on the Sony TV.
Yeah, sure.
But those people don't care about games.
No, but that's a really cool feature.
Obviously, it works for them.
I mean, when I want a game, I just spend the money and buy it.
And I already feel the input lag that exists already in certain games.
No, but I'm just saying, the service works better than I thought.
I would be a lot more interested if they were piping the games out at higher resolutions
or better frame rates.
Well, it's on a system that is basically running off the system way better than it was.
It's just running off some sort of custom, forgive my lack of fancy-speak.
I'd be willing to do that.
Because it's got an XMB in everything.
I'd be willing to deal with one or two frames of input lag if it was running at a higher
resolution than it ever could on a native console.
Right.
Well, and then stream that.
Good luck.
I have good internet.
But I mean, you lose the quality of video quality I stream right now.
Yeah.
Boom.
That's cool.
That's cool.
I'm glad it works.
Yeah, I guess.
I know when I'll use it.
I'll use it when it becomes the only way to play a certain game, you know what I mean?
Which I hope is never.
Yeah.
For the time being, it should be never.
Until we live in the fiber Google paradise, then...
You know what this has to be for me to really care?
It has to be under 16 milliseconds of lag, which is one frame.
If it's under that, then fine.
Well, he said close to six or seven.
It's pretty fucking good.
It has to be under one.
Which is, like, too fast.
Like, light doesn't travel fast.
I was going to say, you might need to bend reality a little bit.
You can't tell the difference between one and two.
Between one and two?
Sure.
Two and three.
Probably not even.
But...
Only once it starts getting towards five.
Does it start becoming...
But this is also built on top of games.
Not in fighting games, but others.
See, Liam, here's the...
In rhythm games as well.
Here's the thing, though.
In a game that runs at 30 frames a second, you already have two frames of input lag.
I know.
So if you were like, yeah, it happens in rhythm games, but just don't play that game.
Yeah.
Like, why would you...
Just put that guitar down.
If you add six or seven to a game that already has two, three, or four frames of input lag,
you're dealing with a lot of input lag.
And that makes it very sad face.
No, I know.
Guys, what are you putting on the watch?
On the watch for this week.
I'm going to put...
Oh, a shout out, by the way, to our friends over at Con Bravo.
For what this time?
Because they're great, but...
They got their YouTube channel together, Con Bravo TV.
So if you wanted to go check out any of the panels from Con Bravo, including ours,
you can go look at their playlists and check out their stuff, Con Bravo TV.
Thanks, Con Bravo.
Yeah, they were really nice.
They were nice to us, man.
All right.
This is done.
There's nothing to do with anything.
But one of the guys we met there, Mark, posts on Facebook, it's like,
I'm having so much trouble like scheduling shit.
It's super hard.
And it's like, you know what you should do, Mark?
You should just quit your job.
It's easier to schedule when you quit your job.
Sound advice.
Sound advice, Pat.
I'm putting on the watch Guardians of the Galaxy.
Yeah, me too.
For sure.
Good, good.
But also tomorrow or today for the listeners of the future,
Metrico and Road Not Taken come out on PSN.
And I've been looking forward to those for like a really long time,
so I'm really excited for those.
Plus, like, I was really surprised that they're both PS Plus,
but whatever, I'll take it.
I'll take free games.
And the other thing I'm putting on the watch is the Digimon Cyber Sleuth.
Cyber Sleuth.
Dude, Cyber Sleuth is amazing.
I'm going to import this game no matter what.
But like, there's a petition going around that Namco has acknowledged
similarly to how they acknowledge Dark Souls on PC.
And they said if it gets the 50K, they'll look at it.
And it's going to hit 50K this week.
Like, it's at like 40...
The Digimon fan base, like, people will be in their 70s
and be coming out to support Digimon.
Have you seen Cyber Sleuth?
I saw some things of the pictures of the trailer.
What I love about Digimon is they're willing to split their franchise down the middle
and say, this half is for kids, this half is not.
And Cyber Sleuth is firming up and not.
This half is for the other.
Because they all grew up.
Yeah, exactly.
And we have that new Digimon, like, fighting Rumble.
Do they still have the song that's all I like about Digimon?
No.
Well, fuck that then.
Do they still have the people that believe that they're real
and that they actually saw one?
Those people can't go away.
I don't think those represent even a minority.
Those people represent tops 30, 40% of the Digimon.
I was reading the old Yahoo board, man, about the sightings.
That shit was real.
I was listening to, about a month ago, I was listening to the F+. podcast about this.
And they're just like reading, like, I thought I saw a Digimon outside.
It looked like a bird.
And then people go, oh man, you're so lucky.
I've never seen a Digimon.
Yeah, my TV flickered and I swear, I swear you guys.
So yeah, if anybody doesn't know what the fuck we're talking about right now,
you can, like, the best way to get into it is to look up the F+. podcast,
their Digimon episode, which is all about this.
And they'll dive right in.
Good.
Anyway, yeah, I'll put that on the watch.
And hey, if you have any interest, go check that game out.
Yeah.
It looks fucking good.
I'll put in Guardians of the Galaxy on the watch.
I'm going to keep trucking through Last of Us Remastered,
which, guess what, that game's really good.
And not much else, so I'm going to find something in my backlog
that is probably some secret shame.
Like, I never beat its attorney fight.
Hey.
I should probably do that.
Hey, you should play Metrico.
Well, no.
You got PS+, you already own it.
Yeah, sure.
I'll download it.
Play it.
I need someone to talk to about Metrico.
I feel literally, I feel literally no interest towards this game.
But it's Metrix.
I don't care about Metrix.
I don't give a shit.
I want to solve mysteries or shoot a gun.
Oh, man.
Possibly both.
Thanks for no gunplay in Soul Suspects, idiots.
Phoenix Wright, Ace Soldier.
Is that what you want?
Do you really think that would have been, like, shooting ghosts?
It's better than stealth-killing ghosts.
With ghost bullets?
It's way better than stealth-killing ghosts.
Why don't you play Danganronpa if you want those two things?
You're right.
But first, I should probably finish VLR and Ace Attorney.
You should just jump to DR because Danganronpa 2 comes out, like, in a month?
No, it's fine.
It's fine.
Do you want to borrow that?
It's fine.
I can lend it to you, like, tomorrow.
Finish P4G.
Let me fucking solve the case.
Well, yeah, of course.
Let me solve the case.
But, like, because Danganronpa 2 is out in, like, a month, and that's a fun train to jump in.
First, become a level 10 seeker of the truth.
I'm almost there.
And then see that golden end.
Face yourself.
Yep.
Then I'll burn my dreads.
No, that's not in this game.
But you still do it.
Okay.
What's coming up on the site?
More Dark Souls.
Lots more Dark Souls.
Yep.
There is Dark Souls coming.
And we were talking about this earlier.
There's going to be a bit of Dark Souls coming up.
You're going to bake...
It's a while from that, actually.
You're going to bake something in.
Yeah.
We know we missed it.
We're going back.
Wow.
And also, like, you know, just I said on my Twitter and whatnot, but just to sort of,
like, reiterate for people, like, a lot of Dark Souls was recorded way before the first
episode went up.
So we totally are reading what you guys are saying and stuff like that.
This is going to take a little while to catch up.
Yeah.
It's going to take a while to catch up.
And, you know, once it does, you'll see.
And I guess Ground Zeroes will continue.
Oh, yeah.
I'm really...
Shit!
Did we post...
Did you post that?
No.
At three?
You made a Facebook post yesterday saying we're going to be putting videos up at three
and nine.
We're going to try.
Oh, fuck.
So we're going to try.
See, this is why you schedule it days in advance.
This is the way.
That's going to continue.
We got...
As soon as we finish this podcast.
We got Turtles Week.
Turtles Week coming up.
Which is now.
Which is starting today.
Oh, yesterday.
Yesterday.
Turtles Week started yesterday.
Damn.
Damn.
That's not only 8th, isn't it?
That's correct.
We're going to kick that off.
August 8th.
I like the one.
I hope you like the Ninja Turtles.
And theaters.
August 8th.
And get used to us picking our favorite turtles and sticking with them.
That's right.
Yep.
We're going to try Saratown.
Yeah.
That's what's going on this week.
That's at a site.
That's superbestfriendsplay.com.
That's correct.
On a YouTube channel called The Switcher.
Or just type in toobestfriendsplay.com.
Do you type in the...
No, no.
Don't type toobestfriendsplay.com into the YouTube thing.
Type in whatever.
If you go there and type the promo code super, you can watch any of our videos for free.
It's true.
And...
You don't need to type the promo code.
Liam and I are, for unknown reasons, working on our horrible racist accents.
Oh my God.
Yeah.
Yeah, they're really bad.
They're really, really, really bad.
That's going to be going on.
Matt will be back next week, obviously.
Yes.
He'll be back from Cuba.
Hopefully with some cool Cuban stories.
Yeah.
About how we saw...
And not bad Cubans.
I just want to hear...
So we were walking down the street and we saw two Jeeps drive through a favela.
And Will Smith was there.
And it was the best part of my trip.
And Matt solved the whole issue.
Bad Boys 2 is the weirdest movie.
That movie ends and then decides that it wants to go for another 45 minutes.
Exactly.
On a weird fucking movie.
I also would be thrilled to hear that Matt conquers a dictatorship.
Briefly rules a nation.
Definitely.
And then pisses it all away.
Even one afternoon.
That'd be great.
Yeah.
Alright, we'll see you guys next week.
Okay.
Thanks for tuning in.
See ya!
Guys, we got another year.
We'll see you guys next week.
We'll see you guys next week.
Thanks for watching.