Castle Super Beast - SBFC 080: I don't think Moolie means what you think it means

Episode Date: February 17, 2015

Holy crap, that RockPaperShotgun interview with Molyneux was bananas....

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Yo, guys, if you want a free ride with Uber, open up the app on your phone, enter the code WULI-M, and, uh, yeah, you scratch my back, I scratch your back, everybody get a free ride. I want a ticket for the World Ride. I guess I should, let's, let's start by- Let's start by making everyone uncomfortable. Because you guys are, you guys already brought it up and- No, I already brought it up and- You and Pat, you were like, I should probably be-
Starting point is 00:00:39 WULI, you should probably make a Tumblr post about this, and I was like- Yeah! And that was, but that was like two weeks ago. Yeah, yeah, no. And I guess I had assumed that you had so- You had made it. You know, you're standing in front of the presidential thing- Exactly.
Starting point is 00:00:50 We need to make a statement. It's really, it's, it's funny more than anything, but it's just the fact that, okay, so yeah, now that my hair's purple and everyone's like, it's alternate WULI, it's like a Wario type of thing. Yeah, yeah. So just switch the W. Yeah, so just call them MULI, right? Yeah. That's gonna work.
Starting point is 00:01:05 That's how that started. That's exactly how that started. And that is innocent. And it cocked the fuck on. Yeah. A lot, but a lot of the people that are doing this are probably unaware that- Because they're like 16 and not 55. WULI is a super racist Italian term for black people.
Starting point is 00:01:22 And it's so specific. Because it means mullinian, which is eggplant, and it's what Italian racist people call black people because you're so black that you're purple. Which, when you think about the fact that- No, I mean, that's telling your hair it was purple. Also, it just kind of links up and makes an especially awkward situation. It's actually perfect, if not for the fact that it's really fucking racist. So just in case you didn't know, MULI is really like-
Starting point is 00:01:50 No harm, no foul. No harm, no foul. Exactly. I said right before this how I was like, no, that's- I've never heard that. You guys made that up. Then I mentally checked my head and went, wait, no, someone said that in a punisher. It's in the wire. It's in season five of the wire.
Starting point is 00:02:05 I can only imagine. But yeah, fair warning. If you want to keep being racist- If you just love it. If you just love it, exactly. It's a big world. It's a word that bookends some really bad statements, you know. But sometimes I don't understand what you're saying.
Starting point is 00:02:22 It's like when someone actually buys a pet monkey and puts it on their porch. Yeah. Wait, why? It's an innocent person. It's like, no, what is that? Totally, right? But then if you were to overhear that description in like a McDonald's- Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:02:42 You got a problem. How do you see my new porch monkey? I'm just like, I'm sorry, what? No, look, he's a door. I'm just like, oh. Don't worry. That's unfortunate. Don't worry.
Starting point is 00:02:51 We're taking it back. Yeah, we're taking it back. Get the fuck out of here, Randall. That's the best scene in clerks. No, the best scene in clerks is just when the camera pans and you see his jacket just says porch monkey for life. That was amazing. Because one thing that you learn, let's say that black people learn is like, you want
Starting point is 00:03:15 to know what the word for nigger is in every language. There's a lot. There's a lot. Speak the language. There are multiple per language. Exactly. So you know what they are. You listen out for just that word.
Starting point is 00:03:24 I can't speak Italian, but I'm pretty sure that guy doesn't like it. You know, just to know where you're standing and what's going on. And yeah, that's one of them. There's a lot of tech behind that word. That's another urban youth tip from Wally. There you go. Wally's guide to surviving the urban jungle, the concrete jungle. The concrete jungle.
Starting point is 00:03:46 There you go. I want to welcome everybody to episode 80 of the podcast. I was wondering, it's today. It's racist. That's correct. We are slowly but surely catching up on Dark Souls LP episodes. Yeah, that's the one. We're right about to overtake the Dark Souls LP.
Starting point is 00:04:03 Yeah, but that thing wasn't one a week. That was like five times a week at some point. Yeah, of course. A scholar of the first sins out in April. Fucking boo. It's never too late to make it 90 plus. Fucking boo, man. The way you'll know is this is like super behind the scenes, but when you go to the website
Starting point is 00:04:20 and click on the background and click on the most used tag. Yeah, and like Dark Souls is number one and Friendcast is number two. One day. One day. It's going to be an uncomfortable switch. How'd you guys spend the weeks and then the Valentine's weekend? Since Matt, since Matt, I'm looking at Pat. He's looking at me.
Starting point is 00:04:42 Since Pat's darling finally came to him. I think Pat can speak about his amazing week with his love. Yeah, so I've been playing a lot of Monster Hunter, right? Like a lot. I got a review copy. Thanks. Who fucking sent us that? Capcom.
Starting point is 00:04:57 Yeah, Capcom. No, no, no. Our good friend Fred. Fred. Thanks, Fred. I appreciate it. Yo, that game's really good. It's quite good.
Starting point is 00:05:05 And not just like from a fanboy of the series good. They did a lot to this game to make it not a fucking nightmare to play like the earlier ones. Did you play the earlier ones? Yeah, absolutely. What was the time to Monster? You guys have your joke about Time to Crate, right? Yeah. Time to Monster in 3U was like five hours.
Starting point is 00:05:28 I thought that, yeah. Yeah, the first five hours in 3U was the streamlines. You just fight trash monsters. You fight trash monsters or you get mushrooms or herbs or you learn how to make a mega potion or something like that. And in 2, they didn't even give you a set of starting armor or any of the weapons except for the sword and shield. See, that makes me feel like with the conversation we had about Xenoblade Chronicles where it's
Starting point is 00:05:53 like, when do you get the mech? Okay, you want it right away, but you really want it like halfway through the game. You know, I feel about this. But it's not called get mech game. It's called Xenoblade Monster Hunter. It was this kind of thing where it's like you could blow a whole fucking afternoon, a whole Saturday afternoon on the game and not even get to a single monster and you'd go, fuck this.
Starting point is 00:06:19 You could probably do it in like three hours. I know. When I did it, I was like, okay, it's five quests and it's, I mean, for like a newcomer. If you're reading all the text, it's like 90 minutes, which is better, but yeah. But I mean, for someone like totally new. Yeah. Within three hours, you will be getting those ballsy. And they've made, they fucking made the effort to finally give tutorials for how the weapons
Starting point is 00:06:44 work, which the series has never, ever had. Like imagine if Arkham Knight comes out and it's time to punch. Yeah. And it's four hours until you punch a single guy. Well, the parents have to die first. Parents have to die first. Exactly. So you start doing the Kid Icarus Uprising like quote unquote tutorial of using your weapons,
Starting point is 00:07:05 which is here's this empty room. Grab this weapon, try it out in all its ranges. Here's everything you need to know about it. Monster Hunter tries to do that. Because when you press start, there's a little cutscene and then you fight one of the biggest things. Like the physically largest monster in the entire game as the tutorial. It's kind of like a fake fight.
Starting point is 00:07:24 Yeah. It's not real, but it's like, hey, here's how to look up. Here's how to look down. The cynic in me would say that certain people, if they didn't like Monster Hunter, would call it like a quick time event style battle, where it's almost just like you go through the motions and you win. It's not quite what I see when you should. Like you just go through the motions and you win.
Starting point is 00:07:42 It's not a real fight. Yeah, exactly. It's a tutorial scripted thing. It's heavily cinematic. Yes, actually. But then you get to the real fight later and you just do all that stuff for realsies. So it's not like lying to you. It's just like, here little baby, here's a little taste of what will happen later.
Starting point is 00:07:57 There's a story now and it sucks. It does. It sucks. I'm really disappointed with how hard it sucks, actually. It's really stupid and whatever, but who cares? At least it's there now. You know, it's like, at least it's there. And I always complain that I wish there were stories in hunting games.
Starting point is 00:08:17 But now that it's here and it's bad, I'm like, wait, why? Why is it bad? Like, why couldn't it be demon? Because it's their first day. Making a story. Making a story. It's their first day making a story. So I only play two and three and the story of two is you're walking along a snowy path
Starting point is 00:08:34 and a monster fucks you up and you break your legs or some shit. And then they nurse you back to health and you're like, I'm gonna get it. And then you're like, I'm gonna hunt the lower stuff till I'm good. That's the whole fucking plot. And in three, it's, hey man, there's some kind of ecological disaster. We think that big crocodile thing's doing it. And then you kill it. And then he's like, no man, it's not the big crocodile.
Starting point is 00:08:56 It's the underwater super drag. He's behind that hundreds of monsters. And then you beat that and then the story's over. And he just says, well, okay, we'll go find a bigger one, I guess. There's no story. There's effectively nothing. If you're trying to make your game more accessible, the cork board mission only style game is not going to fly. So at least they put something.
Starting point is 00:09:16 They said, okay, you got this town has pro. It's like, it feels like a super, like a subpar Super Nintendo RPG where you go talk to somebody and they're like, oh man, I can't get home because there's stupid great jaggies in my way. And you literally have a little pop up that says you get a quest. Yeah, and you go fuck them up. I'm late for my date. And then your main guy, your caravan's like, oh, we got to build an airship or fucking whatever. So kill this guy to get the whatever.
Starting point is 00:09:42 So fine. The only thing the story succeeds at is there's actually finally like a villain in the game. Kind of, yeah. Like the monster on the box called Gormagala, it's basically... Is it a human sized monster? No. Is it a human that slowly walks through? Is it a human that is taking monster parts for bad reasons?
Starting point is 00:10:02 No, no, no. It's the monster who's getting worked on the box art. Yeah. Okay. It's just constantly just leaking evil, I guess you would say. Dude, it's garbage. They call it... I thought it was just like a Lugia Ho Ho thing.
Starting point is 00:10:18 Ho Ho thing. No, no. They call it the frenzy virus and it has gameplay ramifications. But basically it's a big evil dragon. Rage. But they actually do something good with it where it just attacks you throughout the story. Like when you move from town... There's like Nemesis.
Starting point is 00:10:34 Kind of. Where you move from town one to two. No, sorry, two to three you go on a boat and he fucks your boat up and you have to repel him. You cannot defeat it. And you go, oh Jesus Christ. Then later they bring in like a team of ringers to fuck it up and they botch it. They're like, okay, well you do it. And you have to actually...
Starting point is 00:10:56 It's both the best and worst part of the whole game because it's an escort mission. In which you have to defend the other guys from that. And then later you realize, no wait, he's actually a fucking day of thick being and you fight him in an arena and Scott... It's a huge boss fight. So that's nice, but who cares? There's so many. It's like a story in porn. A little bit.
Starting point is 00:11:20 A little bit, yeah. It's nice that it's there. I like that there's a boss fight. I like that there's two of it. I like a little bit of intrigue to mine. I like that there's a boss fight. I wish they could at least be good stories. And for people that have been playing the games, there's a lot more improvements than for people that haven't been playing.
Starting point is 00:11:36 Yeah, without a doubt. Like there's a lot of surface level stuff. Like there's a story, there's different towns, there's some UI stuff that got cleaned up. But certain things like they've instituted something called item sets now where it used to be... Okay, you go in with your wet stones and your rations and your paintballs and your bombs and everything that you use to do a hunt, right? And then you do the quest and you're like, great. Now you go back to your item box and they're like, okay, fill up on potions, fill up on paintballs, fill up on bombs. And it was annoying.
Starting point is 00:12:03 It wasted a lot of time. It sucks. It was a complete waste of time. But they finally made it so you can just set, like, this is the item set A that has all of this shit. And it'll restock you as well as you have. And now before you leave, just double tap A on the item box and it'll just refill all your shit. And it'll also take all the shit you picked up out of your inventory and bank it. There's a lot of little stuff like that.
Starting point is 00:12:25 How do you like the new weapons? I mean, they're good. I think they're the two best weapons in the entire game. The insect rod's like pretty intricate. But it's so confusing. And it's really fun. Why is it so confusing? I think they're about as good as the rest of the weapons, to be honest, which they're good.
Starting point is 00:12:42 Yeah, they're good. They're fun. And I'm more in love with the jumping and climbing and the verticality of the game, which they've really improved on. So I talked to Matt about this last week off camera, and woolly, you probably have no idea. But in the last game, so Monster Hunter 1 and 2, it's just you're on the ground and you're on a flat plane and you're fucking up monsters. That's it. Pretty much every Monster Hunter game is flat. So 3, they said, hey man, we're gonna add swimming. Yeah, you told me about that. So when swimming, where'd that go?
Starting point is 00:13:07 There's gonna be underwater monsters and it's gonna be a 360 movement and you move at half your movement speed and you can't see how far away the monster is. And your attacks are super slow. Every single fucking fight with those is terrible. Every single fucking one. Plesioth is the worst. And when you told me that, I was like, that sucks, because all the art and promotional stuff for Try would look really cool. Yeah. Underwater Try.
Starting point is 00:13:31 A lot of their designs are awesome. Yeah, like Water Monster Dragons is awesome. And it sucks. It sucks so bad. Every, like, and so one of them, the flagship monster, the crocodile in the fucking box, the guy, Chris, his stuff is some of the best stuff in the game. He's the coolest guy. But it sucks to get. Even Wander figured out that you gotta stab him while he's out of the water. Yeah, exactly.
Starting point is 00:13:54 So that's gone. They fucking gave up, they completely ripped all that shit out of the game. They cut that at Portable Third, right? Yeah, they cut it at Portable Third. They removed all the water monsters from the game as well. They're all just completely gone. And they replaced it with climbing and jumping. Which is awesome. Which, Liam, it works well and I feel like it adds more to the identity of Monster Hunter. Because I think, prior to this one, Monster Hunter was kind of seen as the template game a little bit.
Starting point is 00:14:21 It was mainly built like an arena battler. Yeah, and all these new hunting games came out and did interesting things, and Monster Hunter was kind of left. It was great, it was really great, but it didn't have any super interesting things. Imagine if Fatal Fury was the game that invented super moves. And, like, super turbo. No, it invented the line system. Right, sure. The member of the line system.
Starting point is 00:14:42 Remember? But now that you can climb, now that the arena... The world is vertical and you're jumping and hopping on the monsters and stuff. Yeah, nearly every single stage is now, like, huge amounts of... They've got a mountain in them and shit. Very, very detailed. It adds a lot of life to it. It adds a lot of life to it.
Starting point is 00:14:57 People from Monster Hunter 4, since that has even more of that stuff, like climbing... It's only in 4. It's only in 4. It's 4's new feature. Oh, okay, sorry. And, like, not just, like, from a gameplay perspective, like... Do monsters fall down less when you smack their legs? It feels like they do. I'm not sure. Because mounting Knox a monster down for 15 seconds, you just wail on that fucker until they're dead.
Starting point is 00:15:18 But even from, like, a visual standpoint, like, they had desert environments in every single game. But because it had to be flat, there was not a single sand dune in the entire series. Very exciting, yeah. Right, but now the very first goddamn room in the desert is a huge dune that you're fighting the thing on, like, this sharp incline. Is the climbing, like, Dragon's Dogma-esque? No. Basically, it's you do a jumping attack, and you hit its body, and then you go into a, uh, kind of shadow-the-clossest-on minigame, where it's trying to throw you off, so you hold on, and then when it's not trying to throw you off, because it's tired, you stab it. It's just grip and stab.
Starting point is 00:15:57 Grip and stab. Yeah, exactly. It's fast, and it works really, really well. And if you're playing online for fuck's sake, stop attacking the monster when somebody is on it. Stop. Because if you do enough damage to cause the thing to flinch, the person gets thrown off. God forbid they get flown off into a loading screen. Yeah, which is probably the most worst.
Starting point is 00:16:21 So, Monster Hunter has all these discrete areas, it has area 1, 2, 3, and they're all attached to each other. By loading screens. You get thrown into the zone to trigger them. But the monsters don't. So it used to be that the biggest annoyance was when, like, Gobble or something would just hang out behind the zone wall. Like, physically behind the zone wall, and you would go to hit them, and you would teleport the instant you reached them. And that was annoying. But now, with the thrashing and the throwing off shit, it's way worse, because monsters will thrash around so hard that even though you were in the middle of the stage,
Starting point is 00:16:56 they touch the wall, and then you teleport into the next area. It's great. It's like the end shooting you from zone 2, but you go to approach them in zone 2 and it's like, no, he's actually in zone 1. That's horrible. And it is. I saw it from a couple, I played online last night for the first time with Randos. Yeah. Well, actually they were from the Best Friends Reddit, but the online play is perfect.
Starting point is 00:17:21 It's completely smooth. With your internet. Yeah, my internet. And there's finally a goddamn option that you just say, add friends from this room. So thank God. And it's just really good. If you liked it, it has the most of anything by a huge margin. That's like 30% more than any other game.
Starting point is 00:17:41 Yeah, if you aren't super into Monster Hunter, I don't think it'll sell you on it again. Like if you've already been turned off, kind of, because I know it didn't really sell me again. It's definitely the best one. And if you've never played Monster Hunter, or if you like other hunting games, definitely try it. You know who I would recommend this to? Everyone who was into the idea of Destiny and who was disappointed by Destiny. By Destiny. Because Destiny wanted a shooter.
Starting point is 00:18:04 Well, no, no. The setting and the genre. No, the idea. The genre. That's what I mean. And I don't mean the genre of your perspective or your movement or any of that. I mean, Destiny was supposed to be the single player MMO, right? It was supposed to be, you're going to do dungeon runs and it'd be a loot crawl.
Starting point is 00:18:22 Well, this is the best loot crawl that exists. And it's a really, it's a, I'd say it's halfway between like final fight brolling and character action in terms of... In terms of death? In terms of death? No, it's all about pokes. It's all about pokes. It's all about pokes. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:18:39 Actions. Like, you never juggle anything. You know what I mean? What are your defensive options? Oh, your defensive block. It depends. Roll block. Alright.
Starting point is 00:18:48 Action. It's a really good action game. And anyone who wants to try a fucking good ass hunting game, try it. If you haven't been sold on Monster Hunter in the past, you might not, it might not win you over. But if you've never played Monster Hunter in the past, you'll at least love it for 30 hours. 30 at least. At least 30 hours. To do the...
Starting point is 00:19:04 At least a tutorial. Yes, exactly. To make up your mind. So here's the thing. Like people, like you say you're joking about 30 hours to beat the tutorial. It actually took me 54 hours to beat the tutorial. Because the entirety of, there's the three things. Low rank where you only fight 25 monsters, or 26 or 27.
Starting point is 00:19:23 Then a higher rank where you fight most of the others, but they're way tougher. And then G rank where you fight everything, but it's, fuck yourself hard. Dumb, dumb hard. Low rank is, took me 54 hours, and that's the tutorial. Quite a quote. That's the start. Because I remember... That's for babies.
Starting point is 00:19:38 I remember when Yahtzee reviewed Shry and he was like, fuck this game. I never got anywhere. What's the appeal? And I played this thing for fucking 10 hours. All the angry comments were like, congratulations. Game starts at 50. Congratulations, you didn't press start yet. Which in all fairness, isn't really a fair thing to say to people.
Starting point is 00:19:55 You remember for 3 U when I said I spent almost 200 and we got a wash of comments saying you fucking casual. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Can you imagine a fucking title screen? 54 hours since you were gay? Oh, Kunk, you should have done it. Like just... Now you press start like, fuck.
Starting point is 00:20:13 That's awesome. I love a game like that. The other thing, the final thing I want to say is that I played most of those hours on the old 3DS XL. The new one, you have the circle knob and that's nice. Yeah, that's good. But the target lock stuff for the old one, Control-Wise works fine. But that game looks and runs way, way, way better on the new one.
Starting point is 00:20:38 Like the textures are like four or five times the resolution. And the frame rate is almost double. Is the demo available publicly? Yes. Yeah. So download the demo. Yeah. Sure.
Starting point is 00:20:51 Demo's good. Good ass game. It's good. Can you transfer your ship from the demo? No, because there's nothing to transfer. Oh, okay. You don't need to look. You don't need to look.
Starting point is 00:20:59 So what else do you do, Liam? Oh, wait, no. Are we still on me? We're still on you. Okay, fine. So I watched all 6 Rocky movies. It's a good way to spend the afternoon. Yeah, no.
Starting point is 00:21:08 I just said, ah, fuck it. I'll just watch Rocky. Yeah. So I always thought, ah, because no one's good at telling you what the Rocky movies actually are. Because whenever anyone talks about Rocky, all they talk about is the time that he fought Drago. That's literally the only piece of the Rocky narrative.
Starting point is 00:21:28 People talk about Clover Lang. Clover Lang. But what I mean is, is that every... What about Tommy the machine? Hold on, hold on. Hold on, hold on. Let me get there. What got me is that everyone, when they talk about Rocky, they talk about, ah, the fight.
Starting point is 00:21:43 The fight. The fight is like 5 fucking percent of these movies. And it's terrible. The fights are awful. They're on there. They're so bad. They're so bad. And there's so bad.
Starting point is 00:21:53 Rocky 4 has a great fight. And Rocky Balboa has some good fights. Those two are good fights. Those are the ones. The rest is the most... Oh, yeah. No one has a garden. No one has a garden.
Starting point is 00:22:06 Make a web app of Sylvester Stallone's face. He's going, ah, leading backwards. Getting punched and not putting up spooks. Why he talks like that? No, he got punched. No, he talks like that because they pulled him out of his mom's vagina with the fucking forceps. Right, or sure.
Starting point is 00:22:24 They cut his neck, shit. You're looking at, you're watching the movies going, just fucking peek-a-boo. Just put them up. When I said to somebody that I was watching it, they're like, you should've watched Epo and Rocky in reverse order because it's going to be fucking hard to watch. And they were right. But fuck the boxing. It's not about boxing.
Starting point is 00:22:43 Remove the boxing entirely. I did not know... It's all about the training. I did not know that Rocky won Academy Awards. Oh, yeah. I did everything. I did not know that Rocky was like a realsy legit film. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:22:57 Because, well, because all everything I've ever seen is the animated gifts of fucking Drago and the public language. It's because it got turned into a cartoony farce. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. Rocky wanted to are fucking amazing. They are, like, amazing films. Just don't expect actual boxing.
Starting point is 00:23:15 And Rocky as a protagonist, like, I finally get it. All I knew is that he talked like... I didn't know that he was the nicest guy in the world. The nicest guy. And his whole fucking neighborhood is behind him. I didn't know that he was kind of an idiot. But he's still the nicest guy. He does not say one mean thing to a single person.
Starting point is 00:23:34 No, because you got to stay positive. He doesn't say a mean thing to Lang. He doesn't say a mean thing to Drago. Drago? He doesn't say it. No, he doesn't say... He's not nice to Drago or Klobber, but he's not, like, friendly with them at the very least. Yeah, but, like, there's this bit in Rocky, too, where Apollo Creed's going crazy and talking
Starting point is 00:23:55 about shit you have ever seen. And they say, well, how do you feel about the champ, Rock? Do you think he'd be in it? He goes, I don't know. He looks pretty mad. It's like... Yeah. He's just like Rocky.
Starting point is 00:24:07 Klobber, yeah, right? Our friend Rocky. He's just like this. He really is. Does, like, some of the bits with Sendoh now make sense to you? Yes. Yes, it does. Yes, it does.
Starting point is 00:24:18 But Ivan Drago, like, despite murdering a man, is not nearly the amount of a heel that Klobber Lang is. He's just full of lines of, hey, woman, hey, woman, welcome to my apartment. So you go, real, man, it's like, and back then, to Philadelphia, people from fucking Philadelphia, that is the worst thing you can say. Especially to a fucking huge macho Italian guy. Exactly. And you don't do that shit. That mooly said, what?
Starting point is 00:24:42 That's the usage of the word. Rocky would never say that. No, he would not say that. Since you watch all of them, I don't like the transformation of Adrian being this geeky, like, library girl. It's just something becoming like a supermodel towards the end. That happens, like, within one movie. Between two and three or something.
Starting point is 00:25:01 Yeah. In one, she is shy to an absurd degree. Yeah. People like that are everywhere. Two, she's getting over it. Three, she's totally over it. And that's my favorite moment in three, where she gets all up in Rocky's fucking face and just screams at him on the beach.
Starting point is 00:25:17 Yeah. Stop. Stop it. Great. And then in four, when she's like, oh, oh, the money. Where'd it go? Well, no. Where's our robot?
Starting point is 00:25:27 No, she doesn't. That's not it. No, she's not. Yeah, Liam's probably laughing, but they have a robot. The robot scene happened. Come on. No, no, no. But her going, like, she's yelling at Pauly because he lost all the money.
Starting point is 00:25:37 Oh, my fucking god. Oh, my fucking god. Pauly is the worst character. He is the worst piece of shit I've ever seen in a film. All up until the last movie. Like, even in the last movie, he's like, ah, you're living in yesterday, rock. And I'm like, oh, you're just the new Mickey because Burgess Meredith died. Well, of course, unfortunately, so we can have Mickey back there.
Starting point is 00:26:00 Fucking dirt bag, like, woman beating racist piece of garbage. And then every now and then, like, once every two movies, there's a moment where Pauly is like, ah, no, I'm crap, rock. And you're like, that's supposed to make up with the fact that you, like, smacked Adrian around, lost millions of dollars. That weren't yours. Are an outrageous racist to everyone in the movie. Great character.
Starting point is 00:26:29 Great character. Great character. Now, did you go and watch the Lipton Ice Tea commercials as well and fit those into the timeline? Because that's canon. That's canon. I'm not sure between which movies they fit in, but they're canon. What was Hulk Hogan's name?
Starting point is 00:26:42 Thunder Lips. A little bit. And I'm looking at this and like, this is some outrageous shit. Wait a second. K-Fabe existed back at this time. It did. So it had to be, it had to be, like, rocks off. So Hulk Hogan got a lot of, a lot of guff for even being in that movie because that was
Starting point is 00:26:57 like, that was a taboo. Like, wrestlers don't go in movies. You have to stay in the business. Yeah. Yeah. So the- Suburban Commando says other ones. Well, that was a 94.
Starting point is 00:27:06 So here's something that- This was like 84. I didn't, I didn't know anything about Rocky at all, clearly. But I did know that Rocky V was a piece of shit. Everyone- Oh, you didn't know that. No, I knew that. Oh, okay.
Starting point is 00:27:17 That's the only thing I knew. Is that Rocky 1, 2, 3, 4 are great. And then Rocky V is a fucking piece of garbage. I don't think it's that bad. It's the worst movie. I think it's the worst movie. In the series. But I think it's just at the bottom of the list.
Starting point is 00:27:32 Yeah, but that's accurate. And I think that people's rage over the fact that it ends with a street fight. Are actually paying attention to what's happening in that movie. Because the instant that Rocky convinces Tommy to walk out the door into a street fight. And not a match, Rocky wins. That's his victory. Yeah. But it breaks like the previous four movies tradition.
Starting point is 00:27:57 Well, it was supposed to be the finale. So I guess that makes sense. Yeah. Yeah, so like, well, I, okay, I didn't see Balboa. But I, all I heard about it was that it's like, this is not the Rambo. Like, like final movie type of thing. Or like, this is the right send off. So, Rocky.
Starting point is 00:28:13 Okay. You remember me and you talking like maybe five years ago about Batman Beyond. Yeah. Batman Beyond. I never watched it. And you told me, Pat, you got to watch it. I mean, why? It's fucking shit.
Starting point is 00:28:24 And you go, no, it should be shit. Batman Beyond should be the worst thing ever. Yeah. Because you watch that fucking intro with the techno shit. And then it's fucking awesome. Rocky Balboa is the Batman Beyond of the Rocky series. Okay. This movie should be trash.
Starting point is 00:28:43 Okay. The idea that Rocky, it is fucking 60s. You know the reason why he was even created Rocky Balboa is because Sylvester Stallone said, I felt so bad that we let everyone down with Rocky Five and it was not the proper send off. Yeah. And he's like, this has to be it. And that's why like, Sylvester Stallone directed it, wrote it, started it, did everything.
Starting point is 00:29:03 He built his confidence really to adjust. Whereas Rocky Five was directed by some other guy. Rocky Balboa is fucking great. I couldn't believe how good it was. Although his son is a shit, like just the actor. Oh, fuck his stupid son. Like, remember, his son in Rocky Five was his real life son. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:29:21 Right? And in the Rocky, like what happened, whereas in Rocky Balboa, he couldn't get a son. His son wouldn't be in it anymore. Oh, no. And his son has a weird name. His name is like Blood Moon Brother or some shit. Well, he's a little punchy probably. Blood Moon Good God.
Starting point is 00:29:36 Imagine if Mickey, imagine Mickey is giving Rocky advice in between the ramps. And he's like, ah, you got it. You got it, crap. And then a guy goes, seconds out. And he's like, ah, fuck you, you chap. I'm gonna do this. And then there's no seconds out. Seconds out.
Starting point is 00:29:52 So, and the bell has run. After Rocky One, I went to Wiki to find out when did this movie come out. It came out in fucking 75. Yeah. Bergus Meredith in fucking 75 is the oldest man in the world. And that was 40 years ago. He's stuck around. He's stuck around.
Starting point is 00:30:17 He was around till like 95 or eight or something. And you look at him and grump your old man. And he's just gotten smaller. Yeah. It is the oldest man in the world. It's unbelievable. That's how you live. That's how you stay strong.
Starting point is 00:30:34 He was the voice of one of the main villains in the G.I. Joe animated movie. Like Globuloslus or whatever. And Orson Welles, if you recall. Yeah, that's right. Orson Welles was a unicorn. Yeah, that's right. Oh my god, really? See, in his later life, he became quite large.
Starting point is 00:30:50 They got Leonard Nemo. And then they played a planet. They got Orson Welles. They got Leonard Nemo. They got all kinds of things. Galvatron kicks ass. It's fine. You can do whatever the fuck you want.
Starting point is 00:30:59 Robert Stack isn't that fucking crazy. It's crazy. Yeah, it's ultra-magnus. Starstutter. So yeah, that's Rocky. I also watched about, I don't know, seven, eight episodes of Curb Your Enthusiasm. Yeah. I'm finally in it.
Starting point is 00:31:12 Watching that show is like having a panic attack. It's the most awkward show in the world. I watched eight episodes. I think it took me an entire day because I kept having to pause it and go, oh god. I can't even. Just Curb. Liam Curb is kind of like American, what's her name? Red Green.
Starting point is 00:31:36 No. No, that anime where the girl is like always concerned about being awkward. I watched earlier the sweetest. The anime where the girl is awkward. It's your fault. I'm not popular. Oh, okay. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:31:47 Yeah. I thought all of them. I thought most of them because it's a good show in life. Like it's live-action. I thought stuff like Always Sunny or Peep Show were hard to watch because they were awkward. Oh no. But fucking Curb will just let shit sit there for minutes as everyone just awkwardly lies around them.
Starting point is 00:32:08 Always Sunny is like watching Ponyo compared to fucking Curb. It's such an easy watch. Although there's only one thing that goes further in terms of just like gut rendering awkward. Seriously? Oh god, was it? British Office. Yeah, British Office is up there.
Starting point is 00:32:25 British Office is up there. King of painful. I want to watch it now. I know you want to watch it now. It's six episodes. It's super short. The bile in your fucking stomach turns, man. And they hold it.
Starting point is 00:32:36 They keep the camera there. You have to hold it. You can't go. You can't look away. If you let go, you're weak. The other thing is I got a new 3DS, but we all want to do like a round table thing. Yeah. Sure.
Starting point is 00:32:49 Okay, we'll do that at the end. What's up, man? Not much. I had a good Valentine's weekend in the States. It was a good time. In the States? I went to New York State. Oh, that's right over there.
Starting point is 00:32:59 How was the journey? How was the journey? Not fun. We had to fucking bring her dog and cat. That's a bad idea. Oh my god. Cats don't know how to shut up when you tell them to shut up. No, they don't.
Starting point is 00:33:13 They just keep meowing. I don't even listen to this. I tell you. Why does anyone buy cats? Because they love them. It was the worst. Because they can live in apartments that don't like them. I had a great weekend, though, and my girlfriend bought me this little stuffed animal that
Starting point is 00:33:24 sings songs when you squeeze it because she loves that kind of mushy teddy rucks pin. You know that Hallmark shit where you get like a Hallmark stuffed animal? Yeah, where it sings a song. Yeah. It's cute. Is she listening to the podcast? Yeah. I love you.
Starting point is 00:33:38 I had a great weekend, though. I had a really good time with her. I played separate from that weekend. I played Criminal Girls a bunch more. I can't fucking... Just straight through it. Just straight through it. It's the jump from actual romantic weekend to dangerous romantic weekend.
Starting point is 00:34:01 I'm like 30 hours in. I think I'm almost done. I'd say you're done, all right. It's better than I expected. It's significantly better than the Neptunia games, and I'd say the percentage of garbage shit there is in it is probably like 5%. Okay. It's better than I expected.
Starting point is 00:34:20 Did they not market it based on that garbage? They did. Okay, so it's not one of those things where like, did we all just latch onto it, or did they actually push it? Yeah, no, it was actually pushed at least a little bit. But it's actually surprisingly legit, but it's still anime, like Weaboo trash. Oh, yeah. You know, Steve, your expectations.
Starting point is 00:34:39 Wait, we need some kind of rating system purely for Weaboo trash. Like, outside of the game's quality, like how trashy is this? Yeah, yeah. That's a good system we have to get on top of. And what would the top be? Would it be Monster Monty's? Cup sizes. No.
Starting point is 00:34:57 Because I think like, I think Rape Lay is like the top. That's not a real game. But then there's characters like that. The go from Valkyrie Chronicles. Right? The go from Valkyrie Chronicles, yeah. That would probably be like a one or something. But it's like, it's a legit game.
Starting point is 00:35:14 Otherwise legit game, but there's this thing. It's watermelon. Here's the beef you require. That's probably like a one or something. You work your way up from there. From there, yeah. That's true, that's true. Otherwise, I beat another game that I'm not going to talk about because I can't, but I
Starting point is 00:35:30 really liked it. And I started playing Majora's Mask. And that game is... I didn't even load it up yet. I should do that. That is such a good remake. I've never finished it, but I've played the beginning to the fourth dungeon and beat Gaut and everything.
Starting point is 00:35:45 Nice. That's a good run. So I, no, no, sorry. I've done that in the past. I haven't done that yet on the three games. That should do it. Okay, okay. And I've done the beginning up to Odolwa like so many times.
Starting point is 00:35:55 I never had an N64. I'd always play it with my cousins and start over and stuff. I remember that bit really well and like, holy shit, this remake is like way better than the Ocarina one. I have a quick interjection question. It's been since like maybe when I downloaded the Virtual Console version when the Wii came out. But even before you get turned into a Deku scrub, when you're a young Link and you do
Starting point is 00:36:19 platforming, did he always do cool backflips and cartwheels? I was saying... I don't remember that at all. I was saying to Willie just the other week, when you're on those logs at the very beginning and you have to do the jumps and he does front flips and shit, that was the moment where I was like, oh my God, this is a fucking shit. Because all I, when I think about when I played it as a kid, all you can remember is when you're not Link and you're on the other form.
Starting point is 00:36:44 So I couldn't remember what you did as a regular Link. I was like, holy shit. I was like flip all over the place. The animation looked awesome. It was going away. The Bomber's Notebook, I was worried that it kind of like gave too much away or something in the way that it's done. It's great.
Starting point is 00:36:57 It's not at all. It doesn't give too much away. That's the one that it's like the side quest journal for all the time. It's basically just like, okay, you gave the moon tier to the Deku guy and he goes away. Let me mark that on your journal that you did that. And they don't tell you what the next step is. They just say you did this and then when you do the next one, they put it next to it so that you know, like if you have to redo it because you missed the last one.
Starting point is 00:37:19 That's awesome. I don't want to spoil anything, but like... Of course. That's a fucking chain of events, man. No, I'm aware. I'm aware. Okay. I do like everything about this.
Starting point is 00:37:28 A feature like that also greatly helps when you've been away from the game for a while. Naturally. And you don't remember what you did. For sure. It's always great. I was worried it would be too much of a giveaway, but it's totally not. Apparently there's a... The only weird thing is that you get the Bomber's Journal from the Happy Mask Man.
Starting point is 00:37:43 Right away? After you get the Ocarina and you do the first time loop, he says, oh, I found this journal. You can have it. It's like, wait, I had to do the Bomber's thing to get here. Why didn't the Bombers just give it to me? I'm really not sold out. Okay. I think that's really weird.
Starting point is 00:38:04 Here's a feature. But it was an old game and the Bombers gave it to you. Oh, then that's really... They just changed the guy who gives it to you and it makes less... Why is it called the Bomber's Journal? The Happy Mask Guy gives it to you. Because he found it on the ground. The Bombers dropped shit all over the place.
Starting point is 00:38:24 And I guess the only other thing... It's not actually a problem. It's not a problem. It just irked me a little when I saw it. The Happy Mask Guy points over to the Sheikah Stone and says, hey, if ever you get stuck or need a tip, the Sheikah Stone will tell you how to beat the game over there. And then the camera pans over and it's like, just let me... Don't hit it.
Starting point is 00:38:45 Just don't hit it. You have to crawl in. It's a Sheikah tunnel. You know, they didn't get much play in the original, so they amped up their usage. They didn't exist. The stones that you hit. They literally show you video tutorials of every section of the game. Wait, wait, no, no, no. I was talking about...
Starting point is 00:39:02 You're thinking of the original stones. You're thinking of the, what are they called? Not Curiosity. The ones that you hit. Yeah, the ones that you hit. No, the Sheikah Stones. No, no, this was in Ocarina of Time as well. They were in Ocarina of Time as well, yeah. The Ocarina of Time would make...
Starting point is 00:39:15 You crawl into them and you watch like... This is some super god shit. It's like, hey, I'm stuck. It's literally super god shit. Hey, I'm stuck. Advance me. And then they tell you how to advance. But otherwise, the remake is stellar. Some of the stuff they did, like putting the bank at the back of clock tower is really smart,
Starting point is 00:39:31 and it's just a good change. Yeah, yeah. Saving anywhere is really practical. I know a lot of people are sticklers for it, but I can't tell them that it's super practical. It's handheld, man. It's super practical. Like, if it was a console remake, I'd be like, keep it as it was. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:39:47 But if you're fucking traveling with this thing... Exactly. Or it's going to die. I found it practical on the metrogaster. I guess there's a new song of time or some shit that makes things a lot easier. What does it do? You can set it instead of to a specific day. You can set it to a specific hour.
Starting point is 00:40:01 Oh, it's the one... The song of not double time, but the one that lets you jump forward to the next day. Yeah. What was that one? It lets you now pick what time you go to instead. Oh, wow. You can specify... Oh, God.
Starting point is 00:40:13 Because that seems like a huge deal. I'm not there or I don't know the song correctly. Exactly. So, yeah. I'm kind of waiting to grab the box bundle and... Oh, you're going to really sit on it until you can get the... Well, because I was going to grab the digital and stuff and then, like, I was like, let me get the box bundle, but expenses, unexpected, have occurred.
Starting point is 00:40:33 Whatever. There are trips. We're never going to get it now. Yeah, you're done. No, he's going to do the thing he did for... No, it's just... I'm going to get it. Or he...
Starting point is 00:40:43 As long as you know it's going to be stupid. I'm going to get it, but it's going to be stupid. Where it takes some four months to e-bit and then he never plays it. He can't play it. Oh, that's... Yeah, so that game was really good. My new 3DS didn't show up because Amazon has a history of having issues with Nintendo hardware.
Starting point is 00:40:59 They sure do. Which is weird considering, like, you'd think Nintendo would want to be all over that. It's because of the fucking hinge thing for the... I think it was... The DS or the original 3DS. The original 3DS. Well, you know, they had that tendency to crack hinges? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:41:14 And Nintendo told them, nah, refunds on you. Really? And ever since... I could buy that. And ever since then, Amazon has either not stocked in Nintendo stuff or stocked them exclusively through other sellers because they don't want to deal with Nintendo. Either way, my new 3DS should be showing up this week, so I'll have a nice benchmark of Majora's Mask to compare.
Starting point is 00:41:39 Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because I'm already missing not having the nub. Yeah? Because I was playing a lot of games on my Japanese ones. And that was more or less what I did this week. Well, not you, man. It's your big feet. My big, giant feet.
Starting point is 00:41:52 Yeah, well, maybe we'll see you on the podcast video, my big, giant feet. We'll see. I watched... Like, I didn't know, but it's like two episodes of Parks and Rec Season 7 every week. They release it. Wow, really? Two. So every week...
Starting point is 00:42:08 That's odd? Very odd. And I'm like, we just watched the new Parks and Rec. Awesome. There's another one out today, too. What? And it's really strange, but I'm going on that right now. It's getting really good, but you can feel that this is the last, like you know it's
Starting point is 00:42:24 the last season, but the characters that have never gotten stuff are getting stuff. Like Donna never got an episode about Donna ever. Was Donna? Yeah. Yeah. Oh, she's the Black Lady. Black Lady. Treat yourself.
Starting point is 00:42:38 So she's finally, she finally got an episode that was about her and her family, for example. Jerry actually gets an episode where someone is nice to Jerry the entire way. No, that's shark jumping. That's bullshit. But it was only one person, like one person was nice to him and no one gets to see the nice thing. And so it's an isolated thing that'll never happen. It's not like an episode all about him and he becomes the champion or whatever.
Starting point is 00:43:03 It's a secret touching moment. Yeah, exactly. So that's really good. And in the reverse of that, I watched probably one of the worst things I've ever seen and you'll all give me a sign. Is it your own birth? That was actually really hype because you wouldn't be born if I wasn't born, I think. Wait, damn.
Starting point is 00:43:19 What are you implying? Damn lines of the San Juan. You got sudd, my friend. You just got sudd. It's been a while, but it happened. I literally don't know what's happening. The heavenly sword, the CG movie. You clicked the fucking, you did it.
Starting point is 00:43:32 You did it. Because I'm doing it. It's a gem, isn't it? I'm not doing it for a video, obviously, because why would anyone subject themselves to that? It is the worst thing I have ever seen. Now we're going to watch it. Damn it. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:43:45 Is it part of the Ukraine team or something? It was made by someone incompetent. Yeah, because it, like, the production value is like zero. Those are not made by the same people that did the Sly Cooper thing. It might have been financed by that. I don't know how they scam decent actors like Thomas Jane being in that thing. Oh, yeah? There's decent actors in there.
Starting point is 00:44:07 And it's like, you look at it, and when I looked at, like, the original heavenly sword, this is the most European looking thing ever. The way the characters are designed and the way they, like, the way their proportions are. Shocker. It's done in Europe. It's shocker. It's done in Europe, but it's like, there's something off about it. Like, a lot of CG animated movies, and when they come from Europe, they're often not very great looking.
Starting point is 00:44:29 The character designs always take these weird proportions that I never feel look attractive at all. They don't look appealing. I think what you're trying to say is the art is bad. The art is bad. Yes. Almost everything about this movie is really bad. Well, hey, look, when you take shit and you temper that shit, you have tempered shit. But it's like, it's like Heavenly Swords of Five on a good day.
Starting point is 00:44:48 This movie struggles to be a one. Like, this movie is really bad. It has to work hard to become a failure. Yeah. Right? So, I subjected myself to that. It was not a good time. Is that any circus involved?
Starting point is 00:45:00 I didn't, I didn't, I, as soon as I knew it, as soon as I knew what the ending was, I kind of turned it off. I didn't look at the credits or anything. Yeah, I got the new 3DS as well. I downloaded a bunch of shit that I had been neglecting to, like Moon Chronicles, that Moon Chronicles, Xeo Drifter,
Starting point is 00:45:24 which is actually, between that and Majora, I was like, ooh, which one? I don't know. Xeo Drifter is actually really good. You can really pick it up. Metroidvania. I know, I know, I know, I'm well aware.
Starting point is 00:45:37 Really tough too. Really tough. And it's like Metroidvania, but really condensed. Like, it's really tight and you don't wander around too much, but you wander around just enough that you're like, oh, I can directly go there with this new thing. Nice. And it's very hard to forget.
Starting point is 00:45:53 It's very hard to, like, sort of not be on track. Right, I follow you. If you're interested, Dante and Retro City Rampage on 3DS are getting patched to have the second stick and the ZLZR stuff. So did Moon Chronicles as well. Oh, no kidding.
Starting point is 00:46:08 I was playing Moon Chronicles with that and it feels pretty fucking good. Cool, cool. It's a little snappy when you get close to an enemy and then it just kind of snaps on the enemy for a bit. Like Auto Lock kind of thing. Moon Chronicles is weird, because when I played on the DS,
Starting point is 00:46:19 I didn't like it too much, because while it had this scary, sort of isolated Metroid vibe, it also, like, the enemies were, like, the most generic robot orb floating things. Yeah, I get you. But the game's still, like, and the 3DS kind of remake Moon Chronicles.
Starting point is 00:46:35 Like, it still looks good and it looks way better than the DS version. So I enjoyed that a lot. Not to sort of, like, if you like Valentine's Day, it's great. I'm glad you guys had a nice Valentine's weekend, for example, Liam. But Valentine's Day, it's totally meaningless.
Starting point is 00:46:51 It's a bullshit holiday. It means nothing. And I kind of, we did this last year where we had an Anti-Valentine's Day week, because no one tells us when to tell each other that we love each other. Right? Okay.
Starting point is 00:47:06 Because it's the 14th, we don't do anything. We do everything on the 13th, and then the 15th. You sound like my dad. You tell him, man. I just mean, Go get the man.
Starting point is 00:47:18 Fuck you, world! Don't tell me what I'm going to do with my penis! When we were in it. Or how it should smell. When we were in the mall, it was just voracious. You see desperate guys running around, getting chocolates and rubbers.
Starting point is 00:47:31 Yeah. I'm a fan of the selfies. You put the chocolate in the rubber. Don't do it in the other way. I'm a fan of the selfies, or not selfies, but you see someone taking a photo of an aisle of hard chocolates
Starting point is 00:47:41 and then just giving the middle finger to it, because you're single. Yeah. Those pictures are great. It's also a holiday that excludes a huge amount of people that make them feel bad. You can still buy the chocolates.
Starting point is 00:47:52 You can still buy the chocolates. Especially if it's a discount in the next day. That's how it works. When you're single on Valentine's Day, it's the worst. But then when you're in a relationship and you're all happy and shit, fuck all those single people.
Starting point is 00:48:03 No, I feel bad for them. You just got to hold it up for a white day. You just got to hold it up for a white day. Yeah, it's coming. It's coming. Get your chocolate after all. I kind of just think, if you have like work,
Starting point is 00:48:12 let's say on Valentine's Day, and if you can get off work and exchange chips, just be with your other person. And that's it. That's good enough. Don't buy Hallmark cards. Don't get stupid overpriced chocolates.
Starting point is 00:48:23 There's only one holiday that should have chocolates. And it's Halloween. That's it. None others. Fuck the man except what I say so. I honestly thought he was going to say Easter. Why would I say Easter?
Starting point is 00:48:34 That's the Easter bunny. I was expecting Hanukkah. Is that even a chocolate? The little chocolate. The little chocolate. The little chocolate. I didn't even know that. I didn't even know that.
Starting point is 00:48:43 That's the entire point. See, well for me, trick or treat, it's like chocolate is not even the primary form of candy for Halloween in my head. If I'm not getting candy corn, candy apples,
Starting point is 00:48:52 don't ask me to stop watching. I'm going to fight him. Hey, look. Stop. You remember the Christmas candy corn I found? I should have bought that. What else are you supposed to do
Starting point is 00:49:00 with Kwanzaa? What the hell is Kwanzaa? Do you like the fake menorah? It's a menorah, but we don't want to call it that. I thought Kwanzaa was like alternate Christmas. I didn't know it was alternate Hanukkah.
Starting point is 00:49:12 It's neither, but both. Somewhere in between. It's like, hey, yo, we're black people doing okay. Yeah. Remember,
Starting point is 00:49:20 remember, Kwanzaa bot, Kwanzaa bot, all he does is send out flyers that say, what the hell is Kwanzaa? Pretty much.
Starting point is 00:49:28 That's all Kwanzaa bot does. All right, so you stuck it to the man. I stuck it to the man in that way, because like, I don't know. We've never been
Starting point is 00:49:36 that into it. And the, No, here's my problem. You clearly are so into it. Just like,
Starting point is 00:49:44 you're so into it, but you refuse to do it the way everyone else does it. Well, that makes it special, right? Doing it on the day where everyone else does it,
Starting point is 00:49:54 you know? It's like, I'm going to celebrate Christmas on the 23rd. Fuck, all of you. Same thing as Festivus,
Starting point is 00:50:02 right? It's the holiday for the rest of us. You got to get that feats of strength shit going down. Any chance that this tradition
Starting point is 00:50:10 started the same, the first year that you started dating? When you started dating, then, yes. Yeah, probably, okay. Well, yes, but the last couple
Starting point is 00:50:21 of Valentine's Day I had with my previous relationship, like, was really bad. Well, yeah, that's why you broke up. No,
Starting point is 00:50:29 but that wasn't it at all, but not at all. All right. They weren't really bad, because it's like, I'm not going to go into it,
Starting point is 00:50:37 Liam. Yeah, I did. I did. I'm waiting for that to happen. I'm like, wait,
Starting point is 00:50:45 what? This is my personal life. This isn't even fucking business. Yeah, exactly. But tell everyone, tell your significant other that you love them
Starting point is 00:50:53 every day. Do something nice every day. Don't wait until the, when a corporation tells you to. The hallmarks.
Starting point is 00:51:01 And, yeah, the hallmarks and lint. But you need their approval. Or it's not legitimate. It's not certified.
Starting point is 00:51:09 Uh, we also, I think all of us, if you haven't bought at least one hallmark card in the last two business years, I make my cards. It's not hallmark.
Starting point is 00:51:17 It's better, because it's personalized. Are you telling me that you're full on fucking full blown? Hallmark, it was your emotion better than yours.
Starting point is 00:51:25 I made you a macaroni, like art. I did that. I actually did that too. I go out in the freezing weather. I get bristleboard
Starting point is 00:51:33 and glue sticks. Oh. And I make a card and I draw. I don't know if you like. It's hilarious. Anyway. Glad to see all this passion
Starting point is 00:51:41 put towards Black History Month. Oh, sorry. Sorry. Really? What have you done this month? Oh, for that.
Starting point is 00:51:50 Fucking nothing. Oh my God. I have something. I need to slam something before I forget. I was black this month. I was, I was just reminded
Starting point is 00:51:58 by a friend of mine to remember to talk about something. I played Ubisoft's risk for PS4 this week. What?
Starting point is 00:52:06 I, and my friend really enjoy risk. And we said, maybe we could play a two player game. Did they develop it or publish it?
Starting point is 00:52:14 I believe they developed it, but I'm not sure. Let's find out why I think that. That game has rampant slowdown to an embarrassing degree.
Starting point is 00:52:22 Is it this much like that Ubisoft Tetris release? Tetris Ultimate? Yeah. So we played it for maybe 20 minutes? Less.
Starting point is 00:52:30 15 minutes? It crashed, blocked up the whole PS4. That's a risky game. Four hours later with the board upside down. So you're not too much in a
Starting point is 00:52:38 lot. You're fucking locked up the whole fucking system. Don't buy that piece of shit. So Willie, what are you doing?
Starting point is 00:52:46 Well, I did just, yeah, just one final thing. We all kind of, got a lot of work done. We have some new,
Starting point is 00:52:54 we have some new kind of shows in the park. Yeah, we got to finish that. We got to finish that. We're looking at a thing right now. We cut that off for two weeks.
Starting point is 00:53:02 It's really secret. And because it's a mystery what it is. It's a mystery. It really is. Yeah. We don't want to box ourselves in though and
Starting point is 00:53:10 create things just for like the sake of it. Yeah. Just because I'm close to getting it done, a lot of people are asking since I mentioned it somewhere.
Starting point is 00:53:18 I was like, yes, bond of fun is coming back. Those are almost done. He's actually been working a lot at the home. Two years, two eight,
Starting point is 00:53:26 but sure. Also, with bells and whistles and writing on a donkey. All types of things. How much did the hard drive not know figure yet?
Starting point is 00:53:35 No figure yet. Okay. That's not good. I also talked with a bit with our good friend, Boke, no eruption.
Starting point is 00:53:43 Yeah. And we found a really funny idea for a video that's, I think, especially Liam would like and we're going to, it's a very quick thing
Starting point is 00:53:51 and hopefully we can bang that out this week. Really be kind of funny. And maybe after that, we can, we can lay rest to the great Aladdin debate. Oh,
Starting point is 00:54:01 isn't it a debate? Really? There's no debate here. Yes, it is. There's more people. You know what I'm talking about. But with idiots that are in self-denial,
Starting point is 00:54:09 yes, there is no debate. That's true. The only thing me and Liam can agree on. And it's a thing that's wrong. Oh, fuck off. What about that? You just high-fived yourself.
Starting point is 00:54:19 Some people have terrible taste because other people like Shinji Mikami. What do you want from this? Yeah, some people hate Shinji Mikami. It's fine. What do you want?
Starting point is 00:54:27 Don't you motherfuckers dare accuse me of not liking Shinji Mikami. Well, you're doing it yourself, so it's fine. You know, the evil with him was such a hit, I guess.
Starting point is 00:54:37 Yeah, and you loved it. I was all right. Yeah, I was all right. That's what you're for, yeah. Well, it's not all right. I suppose when people were younger, they were able to make games
Starting point is 00:54:48 better. But when they get older, it's harder. That was the perfect, that five seconds was the perfect Liam into Liam. Because it's like
Starting point is 00:54:56 Stinger fucking Zinger Liam into like Defender Liam. Right away. No transition. It's all right. It was great. But it's like
Starting point is 00:55:05 like Shinji Mikami's the best person in the world. Like he makes some really amazing, perfect games, but he also made some, it was all right games. It's like, you know,
Starting point is 00:55:14 like you should always think that you were the best person in the world. Yeah, that's confidence. That's confidence. All right. Over to you, Will. All right.
Starting point is 00:55:22 Well, I was like Stream on the Street for the first time. It's the shortest month of the year. Damn Street. That's why they picked it. That's why they picked it.
Starting point is 00:55:30 They knocked them off, man. That's why the man picked it. How did I literally never realize that? Jesus. There's a mean picture of that. That is
Starting point is 00:55:40 eight comedians punchline. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Shortest month of the year, man. No. But
Starting point is 00:55:48 whatever with that. Nice. I, yeah. So Zelda Majora's mask, obviously excited,
Starting point is 00:55:56 but like I said, you can bullshit your way literally. You can bullshit my way to getting that because Did you buy the, you didn't just buy the game just for yourself.
Starting point is 00:56:04 No. No. I'm going to get the bundle and the full thing. Do you mean the console or like the skull kid? The skull kid. Okay.
Starting point is 00:56:12 Yeah. That might be doable. No. No. No. Sorry. Sorry. No.
Starting point is 00:56:20 No. I mean, what do you want? I want the new DS with the game. Okay. The new, the Majora's Mask 3DS with the game.
Starting point is 00:56:28 Yeah. That only came out in Europe. Yeah. So Wait. The bundle that has the new Majora's Mask 3DS
Starting point is 00:56:36 and the, and the game. Yeah. It doesn't come with, no, it doesn't come with the game. Well, I hope you know that. Yeah. It's just a console.
Starting point is 00:56:44 It's just a console. Oh my, you may as well buy the game. Yeah. Exactly. That's why I thought you wanted the skull kid figure. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:56:52 Yeah. Yeah. That's why I was confused. Yeah. I mean, I think we should probably announce for what we should probably announce here is we're going to be going
Starting point is 00:57:00 to PAX East. Yeah. We're going to make matchup to PAX East. Yeah. It's mostly a business sort of deal, but we won't be playing anything, whatever is coming out,
Starting point is 00:57:08 which I don't think as much. Yeah. This is the reason why I'm not going. And More comment X, I guess. Yeah. No, but,
Starting point is 00:57:16 but it was just, it was the last minute flight. So, you know, that's where the money goes. Unfortunately. So I'll get around to the Majora's Mask thing. But I will be able to eat
Starting point is 00:57:24 great clam chowder. Maybe. And like pizza, Boston pizza. I don't know. Boston pizza. No.
Starting point is 00:57:32 I don't. A lot of people hate Boston pizza. Every time I've gone to Boston pizza, it's the best meal in my life. I always enjoy it. I don't know what it is. Um,
Starting point is 00:57:40 I had a nice Valentine's Day because Good for you, man. I have no problems with it. Good for you. Conforming to the man in Black History Month.
Starting point is 00:57:48 Yeah. You know, well, went out to a nice restaurant and I had my first experience Holy shit. Is it delicious? You mean,
Starting point is 00:57:56 I like actual octopus, not like catamari. Yeah. No, like a slice of tentacle was on my plate. And it was super good. Smoked.
Starting point is 00:58:04 And all that. I can't, I'm surprised. Poor squid. Maybe I'm late today. It's more than I thought it was more than all right. I wasn't too fond of it
Starting point is 00:58:12 when I tried it. But it's This place did a fucking good number on it. And like, you know, it's a pretty nice spot.
Starting point is 00:58:20 Because when I've seen people eat that, like the tentacles are a dark color sometimes. Yeah. I just think that they're eating like the sea witch from Little Mermaid.
Starting point is 00:58:28 I go, no thanks. Ursula. Ursula. Ursula. You can eat that. That's fine. It was fucking,
Starting point is 00:58:36 it was tasty. It was super good. And you know, that was that. And whatever, you know, hung in, watched movies,
Starting point is 00:58:44 did that whole thing. Beyond that, I am now at Where are you at? I know where you are. Now at Epos. Yeah. Now battle.
Starting point is 00:58:52 Holy fuck. At that, like, moment and reveal and everything. Super good. Before that, you get your little pat-sized
Starting point is 00:59:00 Don King character and the Mr. Sakaguchi makes no sense at all. Now, where is he from? Is he Japanese?
Starting point is 00:59:09 He's American, but his name, well, his name is Sakaguchi. And he does, I, I doesn't make sense. And he's one foot tall.
Starting point is 00:59:17 Dude. I think his story was that he was born in Japan, and he's like, Japan is weak. So he goes to other places to get boxers on there to defeat Japan.
Starting point is 00:59:26 It's the fucking Bob Mackie. What a heel. It's the Bob Mackie Harrah problem. Yeah. Yeah. Giant Jamaican fucking dread guy.
Starting point is 00:59:34 Mackie Harrah. Mackie Harrah. Ugh. Anyway. Not just Mackie Harrah, but Bob. Bob, Mackie Harrah.
Starting point is 00:59:42 Yeah. It's still a great name. Yeah. Um, Kimura versus Machibou was the shit. Oh, it's so good. Fucking fight.
Starting point is 00:59:50 Wow. Was that good? There's no reason why it should be good. Exactly. Because going into it, you're like, I don't care about this. Jobber versus
Starting point is 00:59:58 somewhat invincible former villain. Jobber versus villain of the week. Yeah. I don't think Machibou is a villain of the week. Well,
Starting point is 01:00:06 in his, in his actual placement in the Epos storyline, he was a villain of the week. But then he fucking follows up. But then he always shows up.
Starting point is 01:00:14 Stop trying to fuck my sister. Yeah, it's great. No, it's great. Well, well, yeah, elephant noise.
Starting point is 01:00:22 Yeah, exactly. It's also interesting how the second season, which is, it's now animated by Madhouse, which is interesting. Um,
Starting point is 01:00:30 wasn't the first one also animated by Madhouse? I can't remember. It didn't. It didn't. It looks like an old anime. Fucking tell what the second one had.
Starting point is 01:00:38 And the budget increase and the, the attempts to make Ippo more of a character, I guess, because he was a bit of just like nice guy that's ignorant.
Starting point is 01:00:46 Yeah. He's blindingly a fanboy of like the dudes that he's looking up to. It's a little much. He's like making faces and like biting his lips and going like,
Starting point is 01:00:57 oh, these guys are so fucking cool. It's, it's one of those things where it's like, when the more it goes on, you want Ippo to become a little more confident and a little more, yeah,
Starting point is 01:01:07 like not as fanboy. It's like, it's fun sometimes, but then you get a little tired of it. Now he's even harder fanboy. I sure hope you don't care about a resolution
Starting point is 01:01:16 or that romance supplement. Oh, I've given up all hope of that ever fucking going. I'm fine with fanboying over Date because he should. He's a fucking champ.
Starting point is 01:01:25 It's, it's when he's still like, oh, Kamara, not Kamara, fuck Miata. Oh, Miata, you're still my like, oh, I want to fight you.
Starting point is 01:01:34 No, you're better than Miata. I want to fight your wiener. I was about to say by romance, you mean Ippo and Miata, right? Yeah. Because that's never,
Starting point is 01:01:42 that's the courting romance that goes. Absolutely. That's the most interesting part of the show. That's, that's what I talked about when I,
Starting point is 01:01:50 when I watched all of it. I'm like, they're building up to Miata versus Ippo. It's the final match in series, but I don't care. It's fine because you gotta stare at each other's backs
Starting point is 01:01:58 as you chase after them, but also go in the opposite direction. You can do little things to make Ippo more interesting or more fun. There's nothing you can do with Miata
Starting point is 01:02:07 that I can think of that you can make him like super awesome and cool. Yeah. It's Hammer Now and New Challenger. Yeah. New Challenger is the
Starting point is 01:02:15 Australian guy and then Hammer Now. And then Takamura's title. Well. Yeah. I'm not there yet. That's,
Starting point is 01:02:23 that's some shit. That's, that's the main part of New Challenger. Yeah. Cool. Increased budget is fucking great and it still continues
Starting point is 01:02:31 to be one of my favorite things. They increase the budget again in the next one. Yeah. I just, there's just so much. Oh yeah.
Starting point is 01:02:39 There's just so much. But you're like, you're more than halfway there. I, the way is that the way the seasons like pan out once you finish
Starting point is 01:02:47 the first quote unquote season, you're like two thirds through the series because it's 76 episodes, then 26, then 25. And then two normal seasons.
Starting point is 01:02:55 Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. I hope it keeps like that. I hope they, you know, always 25, 26 every couple of years. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:03:03 Yeah. Well, I think, I think initially the, the anime, when you're, when it goes up to like high ass numbers like that,
Starting point is 01:03:11 it's usually because they want to, then they had the fucking decency to stop and wait for it to. Yeah. No shows that, I feel like like shows that
Starting point is 01:03:19 end in the 70s, like, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh,
Starting point is 01:03:27 uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh,
Starting point is 01:03:35 uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh,
Starting point is 01:03:46 uh, uh, uh, uh. Uh, uh, uh, uh,
Starting point is 01:03:54 uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh,
Starting point is 01:04:02 uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh,
Starting point is 01:04:10 uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh,
Starting point is 01:04:18 uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh,
Starting point is 01:04:26 uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh,
Starting point is 01:04:34 uh, uh, um, uh, um, and like, um, uh,
Starting point is 01:04:43 uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh,
Starting point is 01:04:52 um, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh,
Starting point is 01:05:08 uh, uh, uh, yeah. um, um, um, I got my first Under Night in Birth tournament.
Starting point is 01:05:39 And wow, the ex-lay, the ex-lay worst title ever. Uh, I made it one round further than I expected to. So you won one round. Got one in. Not bad.
Starting point is 01:05:49 Okay. Um, and You gotta get powered by the anime, Willie. Yeah, exactly. And no, that, That means You need to play more criminal girls, and then you'll be
Starting point is 01:05:58 The systems as confusing as they are, just look at, are really cool in the game once you kind of learn it and stuff, like, yeah, just watching dudes, like, play this properly. Oh yeah, it looks sick.
Starting point is 01:06:10 It's really legit, man. Um, interestingly enough, the characters that we picked right off the bat, big, big, big ass, claw guy, and, um,
Starting point is 01:06:19 as well as, and, and, and Gordo, and, and Gordo, and Gordo, and Gordo,
Starting point is 01:06:27 and Gordo, and Gordo, and Gordo, and Gordo, and Gordo, and Gordo, and Gordo, and Gordo,
Starting point is 01:06:35 oh, this loves you to do like a cool boss type thing, twitzes. actually a guest character that's way down in the list, like he's not, I'm special. The girl you like, that's like
Starting point is 01:06:47 Carla Deville style girl. Lay, she's like, she's the final boss, I knew it, interesting stuff going on there. Um, like balance issues actually or?
Starting point is 01:06:56 Not balance issues as much as it is like it's, they actually made it that way. It's hard to make it in on the dudes with crazy range, but you can beat them. Okay. It's just, it's a fucking uphill battle in the same way that fighting Mitsuru in original P4A is an uphill battle.
Starting point is 01:07:11 Yeah, sure. You know? Not doable, but yeah. Yeah. Um, and uh, I started and got uh,
Starting point is 01:07:20 some ways into alien isolation, which I finally, Oh really? around to. Yeah, because I, you know, I just never had the time and sat down and doing it,
Starting point is 01:07:28 and I appreciate it. Did you get the alien? I know, right? I mean, I got you a gameplay sequence with the alien. No. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:07:36 And I'm, I'm fucking, that episode was hard, but that's, that's what I want. Yeah. No, no,
Starting point is 01:07:44 it's fine. Um, um, and yeah, for a, for a, a series for us on the channel, I can imagine that's fucking.
Starting point is 01:07:52 Yeah. We're playing it for like three hours. Like, um, we can't stop recording until we find the alien. And then another half an hour is my like, we can't find the alien. Oh shit.
Starting point is 01:08:00 Yeah. But to, but this is, but like every other alien game goes for it right away. Yeah. And this one doesn't, and that's exactly what I want. And I'm like,
Starting point is 01:08:10 I'm glad that I don't hate Ripley's daughter right, right off the bat. Yeah. She's, she's not great. She's not amazing, but she's like fine. Sure.
Starting point is 01:08:19 And, and I didn't think, I didn't expect to like get as giddy as I did when you're walking around a ship. It's not the Nostromo, but it really kind of, yeah, I had the same feeling when I loaded up. And like,
Starting point is 01:08:30 I didn't think that I had this emotion for the Nostromo architecture. Oh my God, they nailed it. Yeah. So it's like a really, like it's just feeling like, oh fuck, I had a screen saver that was just walking around the Nostromo.
Starting point is 01:08:41 I fucking love it. Like I don't care. It sucks. It was 98, 3, yeah. Just walking through it. Totally man.
Starting point is 01:08:49 It sucks that even though the game seems to have sold well, Sega still said they're disappointed, but I hope that doesn't. Well, it didn't sell 10 million copies, man. Well, I mean like,
Starting point is 01:08:57 but it's still sold enough that I'd like to think that they would go, well, we can make the next one sell even more, if we, you know, advertise a bit more and all that, and that we can get a sequel, because Creative Assembly,
Starting point is 01:09:05 for this being their first, first person game ever, I think, because they make all the Rome Total Wars and all that. They've done other action games. Didn't they do Viking? No, but first person,
Starting point is 01:09:17 first person's easier than third person. No, but it means that they did a better job than Gearbox. Yeah. Personally, I think it's fucking shocking that a pure stealth horror game
Starting point is 01:09:27 sells 10 million and a half copies. That is impressive. I think we'll use that in six. Well, when you put it that way, that's what the number was. Well, my point stands,
Starting point is 01:09:35 I think that's fucking mind-blowing. And, and to get it after poisoning the well with, yeah, we'll call it an arena. And,
Starting point is 01:09:43 yes, and with a concept that sounds like it would be a bad idea, but with, but so far isn't, because you're respecting the original game. To be fair, it's,
Starting point is 01:09:53 all it is, is like a AAA version of Amnesia. Sure. That's a weird thing to try. I know, but, but resisting the urge to make aliens
Starting point is 01:10:01 and, and to make alien instead. Well, to be fair though, like, I don't know exactly, but we heard about how in the later two hours of the game,
Starting point is 01:10:09 you get a flamethrower and you kill everything. Yeah. Well, we'll see, I guess. We'll see. But maybe that's fine.
Starting point is 01:10:17 Maybe that's justified. Yeah. Cautiously optimistic so far. And, and I love how you can just, you're fucking playing through it and mechanics are showing up that are like,
Starting point is 01:10:25 it has extra steps so that when you're panicked and running, this is going to be a problem. Yeah. Right. Pump that power of cessation three times.
Starting point is 01:10:33 Wait really long to save. Open that gate by doing these extra steps. You're just like, these are going to be panic controls any minute now. Yeah. So yeah,
Starting point is 01:10:41 we'll see where that goes. You must really like the low sci-fi aesthetic of it. I do. Alien. Right. I, me more like,
Starting point is 01:10:50 they actually took it real to heart, whereas like someone else might have, if someone else made it, they might have had maybe a computer console show. Like go that forward with the concept of everything has to be the lowest-fi thing
Starting point is 01:11:01 instead of just making their own video game version of it. Yeah. They just watched the movie obsessively. Exactly. Up until the shitty 20th century Fox logo. Right in the beginning.
Starting point is 01:11:11 Exactly. Right. Like I was waiting for a nice like alien font fade-in moment. It didn't happen, but that's fine. You don't have to do that.
Starting point is 01:11:20 Yeah. But either way, like we all love, stuff like that. Well, we love alien and alien. The cool, the good stuff.
Starting point is 01:11:28 We like the good stuff about it. And Xenomorphs are fun. But, no, I go super, super, super hard for the first one more than anything.
Starting point is 01:11:36 And I, it's nice to see it finally getting some treatment a little bit. Just one thing, Matt, the second I didn't say they were disappointed with the sales,
Starting point is 01:11:44 it was the guy who made that gaff thread, who wrote the title poorly. Oh. That's why the second said that. Oh, because in actual language and said,
Starting point is 01:11:52 I think this is what this means. You're right. Sega was unhappy with Sonic Boom sales, which were abysmal. They were, they were shockingly fantastic.
Starting point is 01:12:01 For shovelware. To tell. Well, abysmal for a main, a main line Sonic game. Exactly. But what the fuck did they expect? They expected
Starting point is 01:12:09 the TV show to carry it. You know, they can't say in their press release, oh, we realized this was like the worst product ever released. Exactly. You can't do that.
Starting point is 01:12:18 To be fair, it's like, just don't mention that because you should be happy that you sold this much, considering the, the relative quality of the game. Anyway,
Starting point is 01:12:26 I'll scratch that off the docket. It's fine. Yeah, you can just do it. All right. But um, that did poor. That did like,
Starting point is 01:12:34 what, half a million or something? Yeah, a little under half a million. Which is so good. But it's very a main line game. But a first line Sonic game
Starting point is 01:12:42 has got it usually. I, I still mean that's still good for almost any other gage. Oh, by anyone else's stand, by other metrics,
Starting point is 01:12:50 which Sonic has always been held. Yeah. I would argue that all the previous Sonic games like succeeded that. I don't think so. Generations, you don't think generations
Starting point is 01:12:58 is trippling? Nope. Not even close. I agree. But that's cause I have insane hangups about John Generations. Sure.
Starting point is 01:13:06 Man, I thought a lot more of us were going to have the new 3DS. I was waiting for like a new 3DS round table. What, three of us have one? Oh,
Starting point is 01:13:14 yeah, I guess. I mean, like, what do you think? No, but it's like, I had a whole setup planned
Starting point is 01:13:23 where I was going to say like it feels great in the hand, the new 3DS. I genuinely like the new feeling of it. Yeah. The button placement is great.
Starting point is 01:13:31 The nub is way better than I expected. It's a shame the build quality is such a piece of shit. Yeah. The 3DS that I have has five dead pixels.
Starting point is 01:13:39 I had zero. I, I googled it after Pat told me that and it's like a semi-common issue. I went back to EB to tell them.
Starting point is 01:13:47 A lot of people with this problem. Hey man, my fucking Monster Hunter 3DS is all fucked up. He's like, you too? I mean, what do you mean me too?
Starting point is 01:13:55 He says, there are three guys that called us that said that their Monster Hunter new 3DS were fucked up with dead pixels. So I got, and I only noticed
Starting point is 01:14:03 after the transfer. So I have to wait till Friday. I'm busy Friday. I can't work on Friday because I have to go down to EB and I have no idea how long this is going to take.
Starting point is 01:14:12 I don't know if they're going to tell me to do it in the fucking store which has no internet which can't be done. I don't know if they're going to let me buy it and be more willing to talk about this.
Starting point is 01:14:20 I see why you wanted to talk about this. I just hope you guys got a second AC adapter because yeah. And also, that transfer process is fucking terrible.
Starting point is 01:14:28 So let's go. Let's go. Right off the bat. I have a link to a very helpful NeoGav 3DS transfer guide. If you are
Starting point is 01:14:37 like trying to wrap your head around and confused, check it out. It's in the description of the podcast because, wow,
Starting point is 01:14:45 that 60-second thing is... Wow. What? Like, I've done the system transfer before from 3DS to Excel. Was it, is it that hard? No, it's not.
Starting point is 01:14:53 It's just that that shitty video he's talking about is like for idiots. Like, Oh, is it? It covers things that people should...
Starting point is 01:15:01 No, it doesn't. It doesn't cover everything. But there's There are so easy to fuck up and there's things where it's like, make sure, like during transfer, if you have
Starting point is 01:15:10 an over four gigs, I believe, like your transfer can take a while and you've got to have both of your consoles open and your message says make sure your thing's plugged in, but you don't have
Starting point is 01:15:20 an easy adapter. Oh! You guess what? You've got to fucking pull a Gerstman and set your clock to wake you up. Oh, that's upsetting.
Starting point is 01:15:28 To switch between the fucking power sources. It didn't even strike just in case one of them dies and you irrevocably lose your data. It does. Two weeks ago
Starting point is 01:15:38 on the podcast, both him and Jeff and Dan had the same problem where they decided to do the full transfer over wireless, which, if you have a large card
Starting point is 01:15:48 can take up to 11 hours, but the fucking systems die in five. It's fucking clenching. So they pulled that to... We need a large card. If you have... If you have a 32 gig card
Starting point is 01:16:00 that's full of games. And then you're transferring it to a 32 gig? A 32 gig on your original 3D. Yeah, and then you put a microSD and you start
Starting point is 01:16:08 doing the transfer. Because I was like, it took an hour for mine, but I had an 8 gig card that was almost filled to the max. So it didn't take too long for me, but yeah, if you have a 32 gig card,
Starting point is 01:16:18 it's full. Even me, I did it in the fastest possible way where I had a microSD in my current one and then just switch the cards. That's what I did. Adding the process
Starting point is 01:16:26 where you have to unscrew the back and swap the cards, that... Has anyone... You did that. You must have done that. That process is fucking nerve-wracking because the screws
Starting point is 01:16:38 make a weird click noise when you turn them. It's normal. It's a screw. It sounds like you're stripping it. No, no, no. It sounds like you're stripping it. The step after that
Starting point is 01:16:48 where it's like, are you using a microSD card or a normal SD card? Yeah, that's what I've talked about. Yes or no? You guys like to talk. And it's like, select no
Starting point is 01:16:58 if you are not using a microSD card. And it's like the easiest thing to fuck up because it's a yes-no answer to a binary... And also, you know...
Starting point is 01:17:09 On forums, I've been seeing there are people that do the whole process and go, uh-oh, my shit fucked up. I lost my 350-hour Pokemon save.
Starting point is 01:17:17 I'm seeing people whose systems are just straight up erroring out during the process and wiping their shit. And even I, I did all...
Starting point is 01:17:28 I did way more research than the average person. And I had all the tools and I had everything to fucking do it. It still took me an hour. And there were parts of it that, like, the language was not clear
Starting point is 01:17:38 and I got, uh-uh-uh-uh. This is outrageous. This is so bad. And then when I just think about the fact that... I love account systems. When I just think about the fact that I opened up my
Starting point is 01:17:48 PlayStation 2 v. Yeah. And fucking it goes, hey man, what's up? You got an account? Yeah. Alright, sign in. Cool.
Starting point is 01:17:56 Done! Done! Worst case scenario. It's over, yeah. Worst, worst, worst case scenario. You're a person like me or Liam who might have
Starting point is 01:18:05 three v-dip things and you... You gotta go on the website to disallow the old one. To get one of them off, yeah. Because you're gonna have two home consoles. So you do that
Starting point is 01:18:14 and then you go on the option to say make this a home console and you're done. You're done. God forbid the new 3DS you bought has promotional shit on it. Right?
Starting point is 01:18:22 In which case... The process becomes more complex. Because... And weird. Because you can't... Well, first of all, you can't make an account on it
Starting point is 01:18:30 and then make the transfer happen. No, then the transfer won't do it. Yeah. So, you have then gotta do the transfer with the system that has your shit on it and then
Starting point is 01:18:40 it'll attach the license once it's done and then you gotta download those games that were already on the console because... Because they deleted it as part of the process.
Starting point is 01:18:49 And now they just add the ownership to your... Wonderful, yeah. thing on eShop when it really could have just been the same data but attached your license
Starting point is 01:18:57 to it and it's done. You know? Dang. Yeah. I don't... It's just... I don't get it, man. I don't get it.
Starting point is 01:19:05 It's not that hard to make an account. Say you save people. Yes, it is. Now. Say you save people. Again, they can't make one now if they had 10 years. Yeah, but then do it.
Starting point is 01:19:13 I know in the show. Yeah, no, but it's like... The lamenting of it now... Well, no, but it's pretty much... It's pretty much like... It's even... The Nintendo... Regardless of...
Starting point is 01:19:21 Regardless of how we got to this point... No, no, of course. At this point, it's now totally unacceptable. Half to make. That's what we all fear. That's why the Nintendo... Yeah.
Starting point is 01:19:29 Half. So, you can make the argument to people that fucked up and lost their stuff because they didn't read the instructions carefully. Or didn't have a second day
Starting point is 01:19:37 to see it after. It's mostly their fault because they didn't read it properly and they didn't prepare. Fine. Whatever. Even if you're right, the fact that the scenario
Starting point is 01:19:46 is possible that you can lose your shit in the transfer process is unbelievable. And calling Nintendo up and hopefully they know they can redo your shit. Hopefully.
Starting point is 01:19:58 Fuck. Fuck. Yeah, so... Yeah. I'm ready. I'm doing it again. I didn't even think of the two charger.
Starting point is 01:20:06 That's the worst. I'm gonna have to borrow my girlfriend's charger. Just in case. I know one of my chargers I gave to a friend because he lost his. Unless you want to
Starting point is 01:20:14 fucking babysit your... You know what I mean? I don't want it. I had two chargers so it was no problem. Yeah, but most people don't keep their old
Starting point is 01:20:22 handhelds except string them in. No, I do. I do. I just gave one. Yeah, exactly. I only own one. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:20:30 It's fucking... God, they shouldn't fucking give me that fucking guy on Twitter who was like, you guys can't cover Nintendo worth shit and we were like
Starting point is 01:20:38 because they didn't ship a charger with it. Damn it. That guy was fresher than with the Attack on Titan avatar. You remember that guy? He's complaining of what?
Starting point is 01:20:47 He was like, you guys can't talk Nintendo worth shit because the charger shouldn't be included because of this. And it's like... Is it the same guy
Starting point is 01:20:55 that was like defending the fact that there's no charger? No, I don't. Yeah. That's undefendable. No. And he got really angry
Starting point is 01:21:03 at all four of us on Twitter and you replied and I replied, Oh, oh, good job defending them is what he said to us. He said a couple of seconds ago. Whatever the seriousness
Starting point is 01:21:11 of not putting the charger in is like, how much you value that is a problem. It's still bad. Yeah. They should have put the charger in.
Starting point is 01:21:21 And well, especially if you have to do this transfer style process, like if that didn't exist, it would be a problem but now it's a way bigger problem.
Starting point is 01:21:29 It sucks because it starts with relatively like this is the best version of this handheld. The games are great but it's like you've got this problem.
Starting point is 01:21:38 Once I get my new replacement one or whatever and it doesn't have any dead pixels or fucked up circle pad or gouges in the plastic or whatever the fuck
Starting point is 01:21:46 all these things are and my shit's transferred, this is like, I really, really like this thing. I think it's the best Nintendo handheld since the DS Lite. But someone had to make
Starting point is 01:21:57 this guide to clarify for people. But the amount, like it is going to take me a month to catch up on playtime compared to frustration time.
Starting point is 01:22:07 Like the amount of hours I've spent being frustrated with the process and with the fucked up screen and all that stuff. Every time I play Monster Hunter, all I can see is the fucking dead pixels.
Starting point is 01:22:17 They're fine. It's hard to avoid. Dead pixels suck. There are two that are right next to one another. So it's one giant, one slightly
Starting point is 01:22:25 rectangle. One slightly bigger dead pixel. Okay. Horseshit. So with that, we already guide you. That'll save Nintendo.
Starting point is 01:22:33 Yeah, save Nintendo. We're only started right into the news, so let's go straight to the next biggest thing. Rock, paper, shotgun to Molyneux. Hold on, hold on, hold on.
Starting point is 01:22:41 Do you think you're a pathological liar? We invented a segment for this last week. Molyneux. That's right. Yeah, just breath with it. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:22:49 Sorry. Hey, everybody. Molyneux is back. To be fair, this is the exact same story of last week. But it's like with the new twists.
Starting point is 01:22:57 The sexy twists. With an unprofessional twist. Which is, yeah, man, this Rock, Paper, Shotgun interview, if you could even read it because it was getting hammered
Starting point is 01:23:07 all day. That was my favorite part is that people like this article is so popular. It is. That Rock, Paper, Shotgun is crawling. It is a like
Starting point is 01:23:16 public lynching. I thought this was a fake article at first. Because I was like there's no way anyone would have the balls to ask these questions.
Starting point is 01:23:24 The first question he asks him is, do you think you're a pathological liar? Like, okay. Now, so there's different
Starting point is 01:23:32 there are different views here. Exactly. And I want to try and knock a couple of these out of the park right away so we can get to the meat of the article.
Starting point is 01:23:40 Sure. Journalists and subjects, that is an adversarial relationship. Yeah. The level of perceived or
Starting point is 01:23:48 supposed politeness will vary depending on your personal region and your personal tastes. However, asking loaded questions is unprofessional. Yes.
Starting point is 01:23:59 So, is this interview perfect? No. Is it like a not as good version of a political style
Starting point is 01:24:08 adversarial interview? Absolutely. And if you want like, if you want that kind of if you want
Starting point is 01:24:16 that kind of interview and see what it's supposed to be at its no, at its height, you go and look at the interviews that Australia was doing
Starting point is 01:24:24 Abbott, the piece of shit Australian Prime Minister that everyone hates. Okay. And the first question in that from a female interviewer was
Starting point is 01:24:32 are you a dead man walking Mr. Abbott? Okay. Okay. So when you're dealing with people, I could actually I'd say
Starting point is 01:24:40 but people that run countries should be under a bigger microscope than say some jerk that that doesn't make video games.
Starting point is 01:24:48 Absolutely. But that that doesn't like for the purposes of interview. And is that guy going to get his money from God?
Starting point is 01:24:56 So hold on. I'm just I'm just saying there's lots to be said about him, but he is a nice man. We're going to we're going to go into
Starting point is 01:25:04 that in a moment. Sure. But like interview politeness, everyone will follow on a different side. Me personally,
Starting point is 01:25:12 I would love to see it double mean. I I am so okay. Malnu has had a lot of over promising things.
Starting point is 01:25:20 Yeah. And I think that there's a lot of scorn scorn and not disrespect.
Starting point is 01:25:28 But when you deal with people that are slippery, sometimes you might have to get a little terse right to grab a hold of them and say,
Starting point is 01:25:36 no, fucking answer question, answer it. Now, the thing is, is that when like he's obviously
Starting point is 01:25:44 like a target that's like everyone's going, oh, my God, right with this.
Starting point is 01:25:52 And I was that his name, I think perhaps something like that. Yeah. But the guy who won curiosity being ignored and all that stuff.
Starting point is 01:26:00 And it's like, yeah, just a ton of really as we talked about last week, just like unforgivable actions in terms of like not following up on
Starting point is 01:26:08 that. And just, you know, the over promising that we all are aware of the mode that would pay that guy might never get
Starting point is 01:26:16 into the game. Now, but the other thing too, that that sort of thing would happen for fucking execs that work for
Starting point is 01:26:25 EA. Sure. Activision and like when shit happens. They're smart enough to just never talk to anyone. You know what I mean? The people that you
Starting point is 01:26:33 can't get away with asking these questions too, like it would be great to see them held to this type of grill. Sure. But you never will.
Starting point is 01:26:41 Because they're not the mouth. Their job is not to see. Because when you put in front of a camera, they say go buy the Xbox 360.
Starting point is 01:26:49 Yeah. Well, the 360. Yes. You can't talk to anyone ever again. And the thing is, is that like,
Starting point is 01:26:57 you know, Malin, you like for all he has to account for, there's no, he's, he's the end of the wall.
Starting point is 01:27:05 Like there's no giant thing behind him. Yeah. It's going to come get you because of the way the Kickstarter went and he is the source. He's a target
Starting point is 01:27:13 and the last point. He's a safer target for you. And like he deserves the crosshairs on him, that has, that has like way more bullshit
Starting point is 01:27:21 to uncover. The only interview I can ever remember in the entire industry that's anything close to this was the Dan Shue interview with Peter Moore.
Starting point is 01:27:29 Yeah. And Peter is way better at this than Malin was. And that interview went nowhere and it ended up being kind of useless.
Starting point is 01:27:37 But I appreciated it. I appreciated him asking Peter Moore why Barbie Horse Adventures worked on Xbox Compatibility
Starting point is 01:27:46 and not he or whatever the Jedi hand-waved his way because he's a pro. Yeah. But so here's the thing is that like
Starting point is 01:27:54 if you see Peter Malin you and you're at like or anybody anyone that's something under similar circumstances at like GDC or at like a con
Starting point is 01:28:03 you're free to go up to him and say hey thanks for blah blah blah you're free to do that. But when you invite someone in for an interview
Starting point is 01:28:11 I also feel it's kind of disingenuous and a little dishonest to start off an interview a thing like that because it's under the pretense
Starting point is 01:28:19 that this is going to be an interview and they might say it's going to be Frank it's going to be to the point and then you catch someone off guard
Starting point is 01:28:27 and I kind of feel that's the part of this interview I'm like I don't think that's exactly I totally disagree I think it was a great interview
Starting point is 01:28:35 I totally disagree with you if you're doing shit then you should expect that every interview will call you out
Starting point is 01:28:43 no no no you can sit because your first question is a little now the thing is that a pathological liar
Starting point is 01:28:51 isn't an evil thing to ask pathological lying is just when you lie casually and it's not an evil tree it's an objective I don't think
Starting point is 01:28:59 he would have fun answering that question so then he shoots so then you say do you think you over promise things
Starting point is 01:29:07 or do you think like just I just find that the way they come out with it is a little too harsh there was a massive reaction
Starting point is 01:29:15 in terms of a lot of people going like wow rock paper shotgun what the fuck I'm never gonna do an interview with them that's like okay so your assholes
Starting point is 01:29:23 is that what we're supposed to take away from them well no because they see someone that's in their industry getting flamed under maybe false pretenses
Starting point is 01:29:31 the thing is that they're defending them because they're putting themselves in his position despite what he did what I was trying to say though
Starting point is 01:29:39 was that there's unprofessional questions there's loaded questions there and a lot of that stuff interview ain't perfect but there is
Starting point is 01:29:47 more important than this information that needed to be uncovered and this got to the bottom of quite a few things yes it did some of them
Starting point is 01:29:56 which clarified shit for peter yep peter the public for the public in terms of like did they have
Starting point is 01:30:04 those forums that they talked about and the students did and a couple other things where last week it was just like okay we're going off
Starting point is 01:30:12 post most of it came out where peter was just like well this is the state of it and at the end of the day you're looking at the list and 80% of it's like
Starting point is 01:30:20 okay but we probably never would have gotten these answers if that interview wasn't as hard hitting as it was now that being said
Starting point is 01:30:28 I think that the logic process and the fucking mental gymnastics that mollinou will perform in order to avoid admitting that
Starting point is 01:30:37 I lied is some absurd shit when you have things like hey remember when this guy joined the fucking team
Starting point is 01:30:45 at such and such a date no that's impossible he couldn't have joined at such and such a date because he joined after this I honestly don't think that was a lie
Starting point is 01:30:54 because he asked the guy hey when did you join and then the guy said no you wouldn't have asked that's not the problem the certainty
Starting point is 01:31:04 in which he said something which was completely false that's the root of the problem that's not a lie it's a mistake I disagree no that's not true if you make an error
Starting point is 01:31:15 and you're certain about your error it's not a lie you just made a mistake I think I think him to even ask reveals you have to know
Starting point is 01:31:24 that he at least believed in what he was saying I think he would not have asked if he was lying if he was lying I think if you represents
Starting point is 01:31:32 that represents his viewpoint on like almost everything in terms of you know it's like he's here
Starting point is 01:31:40 and his answer is generally no but are you lying about that I was wrong and miscalculated and thought that it was right at the time sure
Starting point is 01:31:48 and and it's like yes and you continuously miscalculate over and over and over again does being in the game for 30 years he did tons of wrong stuff
Starting point is 01:31:57 on this project I just think that instance that Pat is talking about was a mistake or he wouldn't have immediately asked for clarification
Starting point is 01:32:05 here's why that particular thing bothers me because you are technically correct but I think if you constantly make huge factual errors
Starting point is 01:32:14 with almost everything you say even if they're genuine if you do that for 30 years and don't stop then you are in effect lying
Starting point is 01:32:24 because you know you're going to say things that are just completely wrong all the time now also recall that he says this will be my last interview and then gave
Starting point is 01:32:32 three of them that day it was the same day like I think that's kind of what he meant oh come on I think that's kind of what he meant was just like
Starting point is 01:32:40 I'm done with interviews anyway it was an emotional thing it was an emotional thing but yeah you know he did and they made a note of that personally
Starting point is 01:32:48 I resent the constant like hey when are these people going to get their money and the response or when are they
Starting point is 01:32:57 going to get their things that you promised them and the response is why are you trying to make me so depressed why are you trying to run me out of the industry that's bullshit
Starting point is 01:33:05 that is that is even if it's not like Sterling said it today on this thing and it was amazing even if it's not an act even if he is 100% genuine
Starting point is 01:33:15 it is a routine at this point I'm sick of it no one's trying to say you don't work hard man no one's trying to say that you don't bust your ass at your job
Starting point is 01:33:25 or that you don't mean well instead what people are saying is why are you full of shit they also clarified they also clarified how many people are working on the trial how many people are left
Starting point is 01:33:35 working on and most of those people are not actually developers they're former like secretary or like miscellaneous production staff I had a moment
Starting point is 01:33:45 when I got to the end of this that just fucking like it was it's one of those like anime things where like the fucking spark of light behind your head goes
Starting point is 01:33:54 like your spine kind of where I just thought this motherfucker was bullfrog man he made syndicate like he didn't make syndicate well he was on the syndicate
Starting point is 01:34:03 they're the guys who make syndicate syndicate and populace Peter Molyneux was part of syndicate yeah syndicate populace I've just never heard syndicate associated with him at all those three games you mentioned are the games that he made
Starting point is 01:34:18 with no bullshit and it's like you are old school genre inventing genius yeah but he's been doing
Starting point is 01:34:26 bullshit for way longer than he was doing and I just had that like oh my god I can't believe this is what I'm reading and this is what it's come to so
Starting point is 01:34:36 from something so it's like a cat god thing you know what I mean you're just like what happened so I was I was recently informed bullfrog was fucking godlike
Starting point is 01:34:44 of two things from various sources about like his time in the games industry which put a nice like lens or filter on this and that's how he got his start
Starting point is 01:34:55 in the games business he made a game way back in the day I think it was for the Atari the Miga or something like that and it did not do well
Starting point is 01:35:03 commercially it did incredibly poorly and he was out he had to get out of the business couldn't do it anymore and ended up getting a job
Starting point is 01:35:11 as a baked beans exporter to the Middle East that's sick I'd do that job and what happened was his company name ended up being
Starting point is 01:35:20 incredibly similar to another developer a video game developer and he was called up by a company thinking that he was the developer of video games not a baked bean exporter
Starting point is 01:35:32 and they brought him in said okay so we want you to make this game and we're gonna give you these ten computers shut up and and you can
Starting point is 01:35:40 you can make this for I think it's the Miga um and he has in an interview spoken about how that was the moment of his life where he had a little angel
Starting point is 01:35:49 and a little devil on his shoulder and I guess this can lead into black and white I guess and the angels like you can't lie like this man you can't do it you can't take these computers but the devil's like
Starting point is 01:35:58 but you could just make a game with it and sort it out later yeah and he made a game with it and sorted it out later yeah that's nuts man yeah
Starting point is 01:36:07 and the other thing is that on a one of the updates or one of the things on their own forums or what have you he described how kickstarter hurt got us
Starting point is 01:36:17 because with kickstarter you feel desperate to get that hundred thousand extra pounds so you'll say anything in order to get to hit the kickstarter monster that's what I see
Starting point is 01:36:28 and a lot of people have problems since we're helping out the guys that are making strafe they're like thanks for throwing all of us under the bus through the entire
Starting point is 01:36:38 kickstarter movement under the bus because he said and in that interview he says well we didn't ask for how much got us would need we asked for
Starting point is 01:36:46 because we knew we wouldn't get it so instead we asked what got us could get and then we'd figure out our way fuck you fuck you
Starting point is 01:36:54 from day one of kickstarter like we look on like maybe fifty episodes ago we talked about exactly that thing yeah with kickstarter like that is an overt
Starting point is 01:37:03 fun truth I'm going to cut this down and ask for what I think I can get but not what it actually needs and then you act as if that's the right amount and then you add stretch goals
Starting point is 01:37:11 when you don't have the money to do the original goal yeah absolutely and everyone who backed this thing after the point in which linux was added as a stretch goal
Starting point is 01:37:21 should get a free refund full refund because if I backed that thing and wanted it on linux because all I have is linux and then I find out now that the engine they chose doesn't support linux
Starting point is 01:37:35 I'd be furious you know that's the one thing that I disagree on only on the contingent of like that's just fucking how kickstarter works you're not buying a product man sure like
Starting point is 01:37:47 you should do the research first yes you should well no no I get you and I understand and that's why there's no legal recourse yeah of course but hey
Starting point is 01:37:59 getting angry he deserves all the backlash in the world getting angry is super loud because there's no legal recourse the final responsibility lies on the people pledging money because it may never come back to them but that doesn't absolve people who rip them off
Starting point is 01:38:15 no definitely being turkish oh no he deserves the guilt yeah no I agree budget really actual questions that are like don't you think you owe everyone their money back well here no here's the deal
Starting point is 01:38:27 I think that money should have gone back the day they decided to choose an engine that didn't support linux well I mean it should have never been a stretch goal to begin with exactly and I think that might have legal recourse
Starting point is 01:38:41 in that you're offering this thing if they could prove that they never intended to offer linux risks and challenges risks and challenges it's right there at the bottom of the page but the most frustrating thing the most frustrating thing about the whole thing
Starting point is 01:38:54 is when he describes the development problems or this or that all of it all of it boils down to making games as hard right? that's the general thing it's like well
Starting point is 01:39:06 obsidian's doing fine with their kickstarter harebrained schemes did great with their kickstarter so did the guys who made the fucking chivalry and FTL it's like you're supposed to plan for mishaps
Starting point is 01:39:21 well me and Liam played a game where it was made by two guys and they were able to make a game and release it so are you telling me that you who has 30 years of experience are you like either you're full of shit or you're the most incompetent project manager
Starting point is 01:39:38 the world has ever seen it's just weird when you think about the history of like okay like bullfrog as far as I know basically like that ended when EA came in fucked everything up and so he's like alright
Starting point is 01:39:49 well let's do lion head now because fuck that I don't want to deal with that shit it's fine and it's like publisher gets involved fucks it up and then similar thing again
Starting point is 01:39:57 22 cans publisher fucks it up and now we kind of see okay we don't need publishers fuck them and here it's like and now the consumer will be the publisher will be the publisher
Starting point is 01:40:07 and then you and then Schaefer does you just can't ship anything on time and now the public gets a really harsh fucking drag through the coarse sand lesson in this is actually what a publisher does
Starting point is 01:40:19 I hate sand they show up and they're the dick gets everywhere but they beat you until the game comes out my favorite statement my favorite statement in that whole thing
Starting point is 01:40:29 is that when the interviewer is asking him over and over when are these things going to come out when are people going to get the features that you promised them he says what are you getting on my case for all these dates things
Starting point is 01:40:40 you sound like a publisher it's like yeah people paid you money to make a thing in my entire they deserve to yell at you to do it because your answer his answer should have been
Starting point is 01:40:51 well when they're completed but it's like this deflection of I don't even want to answer your question what do you bother me about this who cares why you keep hustling me like in the three digit projects
Starting point is 01:41:03 that I've looked at over the years in QA I have never once once never once seen a developer-publisher relationship that was friendly amicable or not
Starting point is 01:41:13 at least slightly aggressive strained at best you'd say you know and it's like now people are learning through like you said
Starting point is 01:41:23 Schaefer and this and that it's like fuck man there is a reason while there is while there is a similarity with the way the Schaefer
Starting point is 01:41:31 Kickstarter went let's not make the comparison no Schaefer is not no but it's really just I just want to make sure
Starting point is 01:41:40 that that comparison is specific it's the money going out of control you know what I mean type of thing that's what I really mean so yeah that's wow I
Starting point is 01:41:50 fucking hope that this guy never gets a single dollar of consumer backed money ever again whether a product being sold yes
Starting point is 01:41:59 that being said you see like the huge amount of people like jumping to his defense because man he just loves games why are you so mean to him because he ripped people off
Starting point is 01:42:09 of half a billion fucking I couldn't half a million half a million billions of what I couldn't make it through the double speak
Starting point is 01:42:18 and really understand but in the end at the part where it's like does the steam version of goddess have a publisher or not does it it does not
Starting point is 01:42:26 it doesn't so the argument it's just for the servers apparently the argument the argument here is that he said it's unclear
Starting point is 01:42:34 here's the deal he wanted to go to Kickstarter so that they would have no publisher publishers right and then goddess that
Starting point is 01:42:42 that Kickstarter was for the PC version but part of that they said there will also be a mobile version that comes out first right
Starting point is 01:42:50 well they said well we need the publisher for the mobile version which isn't technically part of the Kickstarter but because they want
Starting point is 01:42:58 everyone to play together multiplayer that means that publisher problems on the mobile versions hold up like started PC
Starting point is 01:43:07 version so they said you're not going to have a publisher and then we get into it and it's like it technically doesn't have a publisher but the publisher
Starting point is 01:43:16 still fucking thinks and they're involved and it's involved so it is it is one of those things where it is true in the letter of the agreement
Starting point is 01:43:24 but it is not true in the spirit of the agreement because people backed it going no publisher just you
Starting point is 01:43:32 and 22 cans and then we're here about the publisher are now seeping into this shit yeah what's also
Starting point is 01:43:40 I was just going to say like on the surface level it also makes this kind of weird something to be passionate about at least for me because it's like Milo
Starting point is 01:43:50 and Curiosity oh Milo all of these things it's like I'm never interested in any of these things but and then a lot of people
Starting point is 01:43:58 don't even care about the games they're angry or have passionate statements about the issue that's me that's me
Starting point is 01:44:06 I'm one of those people so like kind of be like goddess you know fine the Curiosity and all the other stuff I'm just like
Starting point is 01:44:14 I don't care about any of these products Milo would have revolutionized the channel it would have met revolutionized the channel we could have checked in with him every week
Starting point is 01:44:22 you want to talk fucking over promise horse shit Milo was never real every statement ever made by Milo was fucking horse shit well and that's why
Starting point is 01:44:30 I feel like the opening question of are you a pathological yeah I totally agree it feels like how could you fucking stand there and talk to this
Starting point is 01:44:38 robot video that's completely fabricated it feels like it feels like like monies went into the interview thinking that he have a lot of
Starting point is 01:44:47 room to breathe and a lot of space to move move with but slowly but surely he got cornered by obstacles popping out of the ground
Starting point is 01:44:55 and backing him into a corner oh shit perhaps tree or rock like obstacles kind of like I love learning from this really not fun topic
Starting point is 01:45:04 to like the most fun thing let's get into some hype shit agonist for killer instinct that's golem right amazing the golem holy shit
Starting point is 01:45:12 what an awesome fucking good character after this show me okay so the characters okay cause he's fucking the last time we talked
Starting point is 01:45:20 about this there were no details other than this is a big guy and he can make walls and I was talking to max how I came into the stream way late
Starting point is 01:45:28 because we were recording something and when I came in I was like oh that's disappointing because I came in
Starting point is 01:45:36 like the last 10 minutes and up until that we were all I was all pretty sure that he was going to be he was going to be a 360 grappler like geef or someone
Starting point is 01:45:45 and he creates walls to close the distance and when I was watching the end of the stream I go oh this isn't as
Starting point is 01:45:53 cool as what I wanted then when the stream was archived and I watched from the start I was like this is so much better and more interesting
Starting point is 01:46:01 because I missed all the stuff at the start yeah so giant fighting hahaha what the comparison
Starting point is 01:46:09 picture how large the size is I forgot that's a big character you know the camera zooms out to accommodate him yeah
Starting point is 01:46:17 so that it doesn't overlap the life bar which you need to see fucking this character it's like fighting game characters that are giants
Starting point is 01:46:25 that are not grapplers are rare you know it's extremely rare X and Hulk are not rare exactly and
Starting point is 01:46:33 this fucking character has such like remember what I said last time about like Omen and like trying to push the boundaries of like fighting game
Starting point is 01:46:42 game characters yeah but it's not just a gimmick it's like we're changing well they're building off of a gimmick and making into a legitimate
Starting point is 01:46:50 mechanic because we've seen so much of the same let's push this mechanic to its utter extreme and see what we get so yes
Starting point is 01:46:58 the thing is he stomps and fucking barriers come out either behind him or behind you and he closes the stage space
Starting point is 01:47:06 as you have less room makes more corner but the walls can take three hits and then there's there are multiple ways that you can destroy them
Starting point is 01:47:14 they take three hits when you smash them into you get smashed into them or vice versa if you knock him to the ground he shakes the ground and every wall
Starting point is 01:47:22 takes a hit fine that seems good or he can do a move that smashes you through it for extra damage and it's a new mechanic called the wall smash
Starting point is 01:47:31 and if he plants more than one wall behind you oh jeez boom boom boom boom 80% damage now if there's a wall behind him
Starting point is 01:47:41 he can grab it and now he's got a club what and the club the club is full screen normal but the club
Starting point is 01:47:49 also takes you can only get three hits out of it and then it breaks that includes block hits no I think it's like connect
Starting point is 01:47:57 you know what sorry the opponent block it yes yes he also has a wind up hit with that club
Starting point is 01:48:06 and it acts as a command throw yeah so what you do is normal throw with the club in hand it's a command throw meaning it's un-techable
Starting point is 01:48:14 right his other main mechanic is he's got rock orbs floating in his stomach chunks right generally at zero
Starting point is 01:48:22 you're normal you move fine everything as is okay the more chunks you have the slower you move
Starting point is 01:48:30 the slower your moves are your jump is smaller right you're heavier and clunkier but you have a hit of armor oh no so you can get
Starting point is 01:48:38 four hits of armor but you're really slow or you can four hits of armor hits a lot man but everything
Starting point is 01:48:46 you do is really slow or you can stay but you're going on a game plan and like I'm going to eat it you can throw them
Starting point is 01:48:54 you can roll them and the projectile is called payload of salt yeah payload of salt so one you roll it on the ground
Starting point is 01:49:02 the other bounces and the other he breaks the chunk into a shotgun spread that hits like five times right
Starting point is 01:49:10 it's fucking great his range and hits are obviously giant fucking swings swings he has a blank a ball he has a blank a ball what
Starting point is 01:49:18 it's on the ground he rolls in a giant boulder and he can bounce and my Twitter update was just like I don't know what just happened but Keats put a blank a ball
Starting point is 01:49:26 on Killer Instinct I will follow him to the end of the day yeah I thought you were joking nah dude and his his
Starting point is 01:49:35 instinct mode is gives him unlimited clubs clubs to keep going on you just wail on you and then when he beats you he like
Starting point is 01:49:44 buries you in rocks and puts a flower on the fucking thing cause he's a peaceful gong he's just like you know instructed the story is that
Starting point is 01:49:52 I hate Con-Raw and I've been instructed to kill Con-Raw so I've chased him throughout the centuries is that why he's all busted up and shit just time
Starting point is 01:50:02 yeah and apparently his retro costume will be when he was at his peak so he's all like all that all the cover green armor
Starting point is 01:50:10 that he has not the rocks and boulders and the tree parts that's really cool like the character is way way more interesting
Starting point is 01:50:18 and when they killed the matches with them they said we know this all seems like he's really good but it's hard to win with
Starting point is 01:50:26 and you can throw him everyone said can you throw this guy they're like yeah that's actually one of his main weaknesses Keith said a tweet like later on that night
Starting point is 01:50:34 I was like but can you throw him though after answering that question like 80 times yeah he's big though yeah no
Starting point is 01:50:42 it's just a really creative character yeah he's pretty good you know and I can see it how it's like yeah hard to win like tricks for getting
Starting point is 01:50:50 the rock loads into him but he's overwhelmingly slow and it takes a good two seconds to put the rock in you need time you need tricks
Starting point is 01:50:59 you know to cover that and when you're western fighting games doing gonzo shit getting creative with it man what's Beowulf coming soon soon
Starting point is 01:51:08 so I held off playing as Eliza cause I went and told Beowulf so you have a couple characters to stick your teeth into yeah but like I said it's always that
Starting point is 01:51:16 second generation of fans of a thing that are now making their own versions of thing yeah but like way better thought out
Starting point is 01:51:24 more advanced and interesting because we've all seen all the iterations of the original I want I want instead of Marvel vs Capcom or Capcom vs SNK I want East vs West
Starting point is 01:51:33 oh jeez fuck that's pretty cool I want I want East might beat I want two characters from like six franchises
Starting point is 01:51:44 world fighting game getting herada on it is all I can say Herada will do it yeah when Herada is not wearing his awesome Pikachu 1Z I'm like he's so lifeless
Starting point is 01:51:54 where he's standing with that's why it's perfect that's why it's perfect exactly if he was smiling the picture would have been ruined the fact that he's all grumpy and has his sunglasses on
Starting point is 01:52:02 no man he's serious business time in this Pikachu suit serious business time serious business 1Z now Herada and Pikachu and Pikachu costume and that
Starting point is 01:52:10 poke and tournament like fucking barrage of video it gives life it gives life it gives life it gives life and it takes life
Starting point is 01:52:18 footage of pokemon shuffle what the fuck's pokemon shuffle it's the it's just a mobile game on 3ds yep that's the best one it's candy crash
Starting point is 01:52:26 it's candy crash with pokemon and we saw the trailer front it was like okay sure that's fine but it wasn't a problem until
Starting point is 01:52:34 they revealed the free-to-play mechanics this is when the fucking shareholders say nintendo would start putting out mobile games
Starting point is 01:52:43 this is exactly why you shouldn't I think comes out to this shit I feel like this is trying to trick their investors yeah because their investors
Starting point is 01:52:53 say hey make make games for mobile micro show us micro don't do good with this don't do good with this but they're investors say put your games
Starting point is 01:53:01 on smartphones and then somehow that gets turned into put smartphone games on your hand held so they've been experimenting with all ranges of free-to-play including stuff like
Starting point is 01:53:12 steel diver sub wars which was a full 3d shooter yeah it's a third person first person shooter whatever
Starting point is 01:53:20 I can't I didn't actually play it but yeah like Denpaningen in Japan we got like over 1.8 million downloads like
Starting point is 01:53:28 free-to-play they're doing good on 3ds but they're experimenting with all tiers but this is what this is like the straight up lifted like
Starting point is 01:53:36 you know what it is it's the energy bar the energy bar's in there you've got the arts and every half an hour you restop the energy bar whatever that is even associated with the game
Starting point is 01:53:44 I'm just like you're not and it's not and it's not even like the resident evil thing where it's like oh if you lose you go get this
Starting point is 01:53:52 it's like no it takes one to play you use one to play it the energy bar is probably the most hated mechanic the most upsetting thing is what I saw the trailer
Starting point is 01:54:00 and I thought it was a new Pokemon Troze game and that's welcome to the infinite series like now with Nintendo doing these
Starting point is 01:54:08 like it's not just gonna be fucking the chinko games that get us like now there's games that you can't now the door is open
Starting point is 01:54:16 for this shit to to fuck us every time as long as it's Pokemon it's fine because it's like yeah Pokemon it's your most bankable thing
Starting point is 01:54:25 and that makes sense to make it a shitty mobile game but as long as it's not like battle clash oh oh and then it's
Starting point is 01:54:33 got an energy bar then I will like all better fuck you yeah the equally horrifying
Starting point is 01:54:41 other possibility is that this ends up being a like cardboard stand that basically says shovelware well now welcome
Starting point is 01:54:49 you know and people are rushing to get their existing like microtransaction mobile games onto the 3DS you know
Starting point is 01:54:57 well there's actually a lot of free to play games on 3DS in Japan there's a free to play initial D game in Japan but I mean
Starting point is 01:55:05 the SCUM systems you know what the Wii would be for video poker yeah just tap the tap the
Starting point is 01:55:13 actually but I don't know Nintendo's sized up so much in the past few years that it has it doesn't seem to have really impacted their like dedicated development
Starting point is 01:55:21 too much no so hopefully they continue only making them at the pace man I'll take dirtbag free to play gambling games
Starting point is 01:55:29 it means they have to put in an account system yeah it's true hopefully this fucking game just like lays dry bones on the ground and fuck
Starting point is 01:55:37 it'll make a billion dollars it's gonna do great yeah it's gonna be a fantastic game start vomiting now oh yeah no just in advance
Starting point is 01:55:45 well you say that but I'm gonna wait for the final nail in the coffin of The Last Guardian but let's be real
Starting point is 01:55:53 right now the announcement that we read today is The Last Guardian's trademark was abandoned as of the 16 in all regions
Starting point is 01:56:01 that doesn't mean cancelled it could be renamed doesn't mean renamed also makes no sense yeah
Starting point is 01:56:09 then you lose all of those not lose them but people will be confused when it actually I mean it just it got renamed didn't it?
Starting point is 01:56:17 it did yeah but it also used to be Niko yeah but we also never saw it as Niko no sure yeah
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