Castle Super Beast - SBFC 085: Syringes filled with Corn Syrup
Episode Date: March 24, 2015Â Miamatt finds time to Skype in from his beach resort as we trying to clean up the mess that is Konami's husk....
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Go back, if this is your greatest I-PAPI, let's go, I want to hear it.
I-PAPI!
Not bad, not bad.
A little bit of the tension missing from Will Smith's song, but it was still pretty sexual.
It's not going to be perfect.
Hey!
I'm at half chop, it's okay, you got me.
You guys want me to start off with a great Miami story, really, really quick, is that
I was in a bargain bin looking at games at like this gigantic swap meat.
A swap meat that had about the fifth biggest American flag I ever saw, it was like 50 feet
wide.
Anyway, I'm digging in this bin and I'm looking through PS2 Xbox games, and then just in the
middle of one of these sort of bins, there was just a machete lodged in the wood of the
bin.
And I'm like, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Is this for sale?
I think it was like, you know, when you have little dividers that say like, you know, this
is where this section starts, they didn't have any.
So just machetes.
Just put a machete in.
Yeah, no, it made me feel really good.
Anything beyond the machete aid for sale.
Yeah, that's how you know you're buying some quality games that most likely are totally
not scratched.
It's good stuff.
Yeah, yeah, it's good stuff so far.
I want to see like the machete with like a bunch of discs upside down, like right up
against the blade.
Yeah, all just piled in.
Yeah.
All right.
What is up?
What is up?
We are at episode 85 of the podcast.
The podcast is eligible for some kind of old person thing.
Some kind of thing, almost.
Yeah, no, we're good for the fucking seniors meal at Denny's or whatever.
Isn't that 65?
Probably, yeah.
Like most of them are 65.
It's all the same thing.
The 85 is like, good job on being alive.
Exactly.
You're over 50.
You get a free pass from there on out.
Yeah.
You can steal all the batteries you want.
Here, eat this food that will finish you off.
You can have one last really good piece of red meat and then you're done.
You know, at the point where like, I don't know if you've had this, but I remember a
friend was talking about it.
I was like, his dad was like, okay, look, I know I don't have much longer left.
I know my heart's kind of shit, but I just want to enjoy steak, man.
Can you not take that away from me?
No, my dad's smart.
He actually cut back on all sorts of shit after his like 15 heart attacks.
That's about the right time.
Yeah.
I think we're smoking and he got the pacemaker and he's like, you know what, but if you choose
queer, if you think your quality of life will greatly decrease by not having steak, I can
understand that.
And you know what decreases your quality of life?
Death?
Yeah.
That being said, like food here, it's worth dying.
I think I told either you or Liam like in a message that I had probably the best barbecue
of my life here.
Yeah.
You messaged me that life.
See?
Now that ain't no yakimiku barbecue, but I'm curious.
Okay.
Well, okay.
I'm a curiosity's pizza.
Okay.
Here's your wings.
Right?
This is at a place called Porky's The Hog.
Like straight up.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And you're like, all right.
I'll have this.
I'll have this plate and I'll have this plate.
I'm not ordering anything.
I'm just like, yeah, I'll try whatever.
And just here's our wings.
They're dry rubbed wings and I go, I don't, it's just wings.
I don't know what that means.
Sure.
And it's like these gritty like, like wings that have no sauce.
They're dry, but at the same time, they're like the most succulent, like juicy wings ever.
And they're like, you can put sauces on and I'm like, oh, oh, oh, because I don't think
you needed to.
This is, there's this.
And then we went to another place last night called.
So well-seasoned instead of sauce.
Very well-seasoned and ribs that Liam ribs that rival Blackstrap.
And for like 20 bucks, like the meat, like the meals are incredibly, incredibly cheap.
Well, yeah, but what is that like $80 for you?
No, because again, I'm not paying for anything.
I keep offering to pay, but fiance's folks are designed Matt Matt is living with a Fortune
500 cartel.
That's why they had to go to Florida.
Exactly.
Whenever they're like, okay, well, we are you, you kids do this, we have something else
to go to.
And I'm like, Oh, do you have to meet, you know, Tony Soprano down there?
Be wary if they do a detour to the Cayman, you know, like on the way back, that's all
your dad kindly said, Hey, do you want to take a swamp tour on the airboat?
And I'm like, do we get to put a guy into the water?
And because you need to get rid of some dudes?
And he's like, no, no, not this week.
So that's going to be really funny for about five to 10 years before you find out that
it was all super real.
It was all the realest, the rawest.
And the last place we went to just last night was a place called, um, called rich people
own a pig farm.
I don't get it.
Why would you have so many pigs?
We went to a place last night called catfish doies.
And they're like, have the swamp platter, which has a catfish face, a bunch of sounds
like the realest deal.
That sounds like garbage.
That is some raw shit right there.
It sounds like garbage, which means it's not done.
Catfish faces, alligator tails, and, um, and, uh, like frogs legs.
And I've never had catfish before and I'm just like, why would I want to eat something
that has a face like that?
You know, like, I don't feel good about that, but I tried some of the catfish was actually
quite nice.
I enjoyed it.
Uh, but yeah, like everything here, like if, if even Liam has seen like one thing posted
on my Twitter, it's just the craziest cookies because we've only been to America for like
three days for a con and we don't get to, we only get to see a fraction of it.
We don't, on, on Matt's like first day there, he texted me like eight pictures from a store
that was just cookies, alcohol and drinks and stuff.
Okay.
Some of those drinks were pretty sad.
One of them was, I'm not sure if you saw one of them was an alcohol, which is blueberry
pancake flavored.
Talk to me about Dr. Thunder.
Dr. Thunder.
Okay.
So there's this, someone says it's just off brand Dr. Pepper, obviously, and then some
people are like Dr. Thunder is the worst.
I almost died.
And then some other people are like Dr. Thunder got me through college all praise to the doctor.
And of course the Zubaz and rage Twitter accounts are like, Oh, new challenger appears
Dr. Thunder.
I don't think so.
And the last thing I tweeted not too long ago was brownie filled chip so hoise.
If they think that I wrote, okay, America, it was cute for a little, little while you
need to stop.
And then everyone's just saying to me can't stop won't stop America for life.
And I just, I just see, I also took another picture of something else, which was Oreo
cream filled chip so hoise.
What's it what?
Yeah.
Okay.
That's too much.
Yeah.
That's too much.
You know what?
Just fuck it.
Cookie dough filled cookie.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Can't beat it.
Can't beat it.
I'm constantly in a tizzy.
I'm always dizzy looking at everything of like how it's these motherfuckers and lab
coats walking into the bisco and shit.
You're like, why are you hiring these people with, with, with syringes of filled with
corn syrup?
Yeah.
Just waiting to stick it into someone's arm and just, just like, let's see what it
does to them.
Like packages should say like guaranteed to shorten your life or something.
No, some of them, some of them honestly do.
Like I saw some packages that just say the sugar you love, the sugar you need.
Like there was a lot of packages that just say fuck it.
Like just no, we don't care.
I mean, you look at some of the packaging we have here and you look at like a side of
a bag of cookies and it's like per serving size, right?
And like at the bottom, it's like 100% of sugar required daily per serving and you look
at the serving and it's one cookie.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And like those are our cookies.
In Canada, it's restricted.
Yeah.
But in the States, what's it going to be?
Like half of one bite is 2.4 servings?
It'll be one cookie and it'll be 700 calories.
I'm just blown away by the fact that there are other soft drink doctors out there.
Yeah.
They're all playing the game.
None of us knew that we had to choose sides.
Once upon a time.
But the lines have been drawn.
Once upon a time, like a hundred years ago, there was a doctorate offered and one class
got through.
Right.
Right.
And they all killed the teachers.
A soft drink doctoring.
Exactly.
Yeah.
Doctor Pepper and Doctor.
Will you cross the line?
Yeah.
And just, I don't really want to go on and on, but like lots of fun times on the, well,
none.
Well, because it's just, if it was like a New York trip, sure, lots to talk about, but
I'm just mostly taking it easy.
Lazy beaches.
Lazy, lazy beaches.
But the other thing is he went to Sawgrass Mall, Sawgrass Mills Mall, which is apparently
the biggest mall in fucking all of Florida.
And a fan found me.
What?
I'm just taking money out and I'm just looking at nothing.
I'm looking at the floor just exhausted.
And some fan goes like, hey, are you Matt?
And I go, how?
Who?
What are you?
Who are you?
What's going on?
And then he's just like, oh, hi.
No, I'm a big fan.
I go, oh, okay, cool.
And I turn to shake his hand and he just flittered off into the distance.
He just ran off and I was like, oh, okay, okay, cool.
Sorry.
And like this mall had three game stops.
Your location has been compromised.
My location has been compromised.
Fortunately, we got the hell out of there.
I did actually buy some like, like some not rare games, but ones I was like, oh, that's
that's cool to see.
And ones we don't find so much in there.
American video games.
Oh yeah.
Fill up that mystery box.
Exactly.
They're all, you know what?
Fuck yeah.
I'm not going to say what they are, but they're all mystery box games.
There we go.
So yeah.
We have so many mystery box games.
Yeah.
Eventually our channel is just going to be 14 mixed mystery boxes a week.
Super best mystery friends.
Month of mystery box three.
Yeah.
Liam, how's it going?
It's going real good.
I guess my week started on Tuesday where I got woken up by a text from Bell, which would
usually really annoy me.
Oh, awesome.
But it was a nice text from Bell that said, hey, your phone's old.
You're eligible for a free new phone.
And I was like, yeah.
That is a good text.
That is a good text.
So I went to Bell.
We had the same phone.
I didn't get that.
Well, sorry.
My plan date must have been from way before yours.
So I went and I got a fancy nice iPhone 6.
Ooh.
Glass and steel.
Yeah.
Exactly.
It's really fucking nice.
Hey, hold on.
We should touch our phones together.
Wow.
This is the synthesis that isn't allowed.
There you go.
Just phone porting it.
Android and iOS.
Just smush it together.
Yeah.
So like I was briefly thinking getting an Android phone, but after my quote unquote experience
with the Nvidia Shield, I remembered there was no games on it and said, yeah, it's not
worth it.
So I went and got an iPhone because there are games on that.
Yeah.
Holy shit.
This is the one finally where from here on out, yeah, games are viable.
Because before this, I mean, I never touched the iPhone 5, but before this in my experience,
like many, many games had serious performance issues to the point of crashing.
What was your litmus test?
What was my litmus test for this?
Yeah.
I played Republike.
I played Modern Combat 5, which is the most like trying game, although it's a game loft
game.
I didn't play it more than five minutes.
I just wanted to see it and Vainglory and Infinity Blade 3, which are like some of the
more trying games.
Did you play The World Ends With You?
I can't.
Yeah.
It's gone.
And dude, it's not on the start anymore.
And that's my rebuttal to your, like this is the one for games.
Okay.
It's like, no, it's not, it's not the hardware.
Yeah.
It's the fucking updates.
No.
When iPhone updates to the next Android, I will just lose The World Ends With You.
Yeah.
Because it will just break forever.
I agree with you.
That still is garbage.
But I'm just saying, like this is the first one where the hardware is that far ahead of
the top graphical finality, probably for a while, because these games do look pretty
good.
It's kind of like buying a PC, like the phone stuff.
In a similar kind of way.
Yeah.
You don't build them.
But that's right, man.
Can't wait for people to use, take advantage of this by just making more of the same.
Yeah.
We'll know.
Exactly.
Like 99% of the games are still trash, but there's stuff on there.
I think 99% is pretty generous.
I think 99 point something is pretty accurate.
I think the phone upgrades have been, even before this generation, you could have done
amazing things.
We've seen Infinity Blades, but no one pushes it because it's the budget of the development.
Not the budget of like...
Someone's got to break even.
Yeah.
Exactly.
And you want your game to be able to run on a phone older than one year.
Yeah, exactly.
Old.
But like I said...
Old Gillis is fighting for the Nokia release he's got.
Yeah.
Playing Infinity Blades on my computer.
Remember Capcom's like old phone games where they had lost planet for phones?
Didn't you work on 80 of them?
No.
No.
Well, they had a ton.
I touched a bunch of mobile phones.
Oh, it was somebody else that got drafted, but it was another friend we know that got
drafted mobile for like two years.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Old roommate.
But I played like Rip Publique, you know that one, the stealth game.
And I played a couple of the games by Simogo that have won like a lot of awards.
And I'm like, yeah, the iOS, the App Store is significantly better than the Android.
Okay.
It's called Google Play Store.
Oh, absolutely.
The selection just, it's a joke.
Absolutely.
It's a joke.
I totally agree.
Well, I could do with a version of Super Hexagon that doesn't stutter up.
Yeah.
And that's not even a joke.
Well, my version of Super Hexagon doesn't stutter up.
Okay, mine does.
Yeah.
On iPhones, it's surprisingly weak.
I have the newest Sony phone, so of course it should.
Yeah, of course it should.
But I think the reason I chose Android is like the dumbest, most trivial reason ever.
And it's like, I hate iTunes and I like to be able to drag my music into a folder and
have it work.
No, that's fair.
And that's like, that's the primary use for my phone.
Oh, that's fair.
So yeah.
All these, all these, all these like middleman software things fucking suck, man.
Yeah, definitely.
No, for me, I opted for this phone because I do want to play what games do come out on
it.
And that's like, I'm excited to play Ace Attorney 5 because I booted it and like that is undoubtedly
the definitive version of Ace Attorney 5.
You're smiling, Willie.
I'm seeing a spurt cross your face.
Yeah, it's a touch screen game at a higher resolution and a higher frame rate.
Like there's significantly better.
It looks significantly better.
There's nothing lost from having no controls in a game like that.
Yeah, exactly.
So like, you know, games like that, I'm excited for Mevia's Final Fantasy, which I can actually
play now.
That was the one game where I was like, shit, I'm going to have to get a new phone at some
point.
But now I don't know.
And like the reason why the Android store is so pathetic is because piracy is out of
control.
Exactly.
It's like crazy.
Can't really fight that.
But no, it's great.
And I get to talk to Siri all day now and Siri's great.
Siri is the worst piece of shit I have ever seen.
Siri is the most useless.
Oh my God, Siri keeps me up all night.
I know, right?
Okay.
My fiance got an iPhone 6 and whatever and we're just watching TV and Siri interrupts
us because Siri thinks we give a shit about her.
Someone said something that sounds like the word Siri.
So Siri's like, did you want me?
And we're like, no, stop talking to us.
I was playing video games and I ordered a pizza with Siri and it got to my door without
me having to move from my game.
The one time we asked Siri to help us.
If you were playing EverQuest 2, you could have just hit slash pizza.
And they would shit you one.
Yeah, exactly.
The one time we asked Siri to help us where she was going, Siri, tell me where like the
nearest like this type of store was.
Did you say where is library?
No, Siri, where is the newest like dress store or whatever we were asking?
And it goes, oh, goodbye.
Thanks.
Yeah, I think it's a novelty like when I was using the X-Bone vocal commands for the first
two weeks.
And then you fucking stop.
Yeah.
You know?
And like, I still, I still, like the on and off thing, like, forget that, but that was
there.
Yeah.
Like showpiece feature.
Yeah.
And, and like.
It doesn't work.
And, and, and then it does after you like do some shit, you got to do some shit to get
it working.
But.
It still doesn't detect black people, right?
Yeah.
The voice is too black.
Ultimately, you know, what I'm saying is the final state it was left in, everything was
just working.
Yeah.
But I just was like, eh, I don't need to.
Yeah.
Like it was only occasionally when I'm like, I'm watching Netflix from bed.
I'm like, I'm super lazy right now.
Fuck it.
But the novelty wears off.
No, I do.
I already turned off Siri.
Okay.
It's been, it's been.
There you go.
Five days.
I already turned off.
Okay.
But it was, it was a cool gimmick while it lasted.
The voice command stuff is at a point where it's like, it has to work 100% every single
time perfectly.
And it's, even if it's a 95% now, that's still not good enough.
Yeah.
I just wanted to get the novelty shit like asking Siri to tell me a joke and hearing what she
said.
Way faster.
Yeah.
Than doing it yourself.
Siri.
Sure.
Way faster.
Siri, tell me a joke.
I am useful.
I am, Siri.
Good one.
That's nice.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
No, but you know, there's a bunch of like, like gimmick hidden stuff like that.
So I was having fun with that.
But yeah.
Other than that, I played a bunch of type zero.
That's not zero.
It's great.
It's great.
It's just as good as it was in 2011.
And it's here.
Now you can.
With extra motion blur.
The motion blur is really bad.
I played a little bit of type zero and we got to talk about something about this one.
Is it about the English voice acting being the worst thing ever?
It is about the English voice acting is game ruining.
It is so bad.
It is so bad.
I'd only played maybe an hour or two after you guys left.
Holy shit.
It's so fucking bad that I watched that opening scene again.
That's also sad and wartime.
Yeah.
In Japanese.
I'm like, oh, this is legit.
This is not as laughing at it.
Can you turn it off?
You could just change it totally switch it.
So I had the wonderful experience in which I started with Japanese and then I found out
something terrible.
The subtitling in that game is awful.
Oh no.
The timing is awful.
It is.
It's the timing is off and it's also like I read pretty fast.
There are moments in which I can't read fast enough.
If I want to read the character's name.
Sure.
And that's in cutscenes.
But the real problem is that there's constant lots of radio chatter in all your missions
and it's like the subs are denoted to like a box in the upper left corner.
That's like 10% of the screen.
That's when they do the radio chatter shit.
Yeah.
And it's not enough.
It's like I miss it almost every time.
So I switched back to English for maybe an hour and I was like, barf.
And now I'm back on Japanese.
I'm not having troubles with the subtitles.
I'll get used to it.
In a situation like where you're dealing with bad subs versus bad dubs.
Like a bad dub will just be like hilariously stub and you'll just power through.
A bad sub.
You get to hear the good voice acting which is what I want.
It just kind of sucks.
But it's fucking irritating.
It's accurate.
A bad dub won't make me angry.
Well, here's the deal.
This bad dub would make you angry.
Because you can switch back and forth and you can tell the difference.
It's shocking.
It is shocking how bad the English dub is compared to the Japanese dub.
It's really surprising because even with stuff like lightning returns,
Square Enix has been really strong with doing fairly good dubs.
You know, obviously I don't like the voice of lightning very much
but most of the other cast is pretty strong.
You know, you go back to stuff like Near in 2010 and like that was really strong.
It's really surprising to see Type Zero have such a weak one
and episode like 15 Episode Duskei is not their best.
It's better than Type Zero.
Part of the problem, look at this,
and like it's clear the Japanese dub was made in 2011
and the English dub was made recently.
Because the game is not localized at all.
The game had the translation, it's been translated,
but it's not localized.
There has been no effort to change like the way sentences work
or the way...
Like the fucking Kupo bit
or that Magalyn, Alyn bit and the fucking...
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
They made no effort to transform that into something that made sense.
It was transliterated.
Yes.
And the translation of that is good.
But like you look at this and it's like this whole scene
makes no sense in English.
And you made no attempt to do anything
because this dub and something was like a rush job.
And yeah, no, like the whole...
A lot of people don't realize that like if you were to just
transliterate games into their languages, into other languages,
it would be a super easy quick job.
But the process of actually making it work
makes sense in English.
So Woli and Matt, and I don't know if you've watched Epo,
but this is the best example I can think of.
If you...
Remember Nekomara, the other coach?
Nekomara.
Nekochat.
Okay, so imagine if you translated,
if you in the dub for Epo,
he would say Denny.
And how are you guys doing Denny?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
What the fuck is that?
Exactly, exactly.
That's how Kupos talk in English in this dub.
They keep saying Kupo.
That's how Mugos talk, yeah.
They just say Kupo at the end.
Oh, wow, yeah, yeah, yeah.
The voice actors have always said Kupo, though.
Yeah, they have.
And it's never made any sense.
And now...
I have no problem with the Kupo thing.
And now I understand why it doesn't make sense
because that like sentence structure doesn't exist in English.
Yeah, you know what?
So the voice actors for the Mugos,
they try and edge it off just by saying Kupo like sassy
at the end of the line.
It doesn't work.
No, like the Muggle little scene is fucking shit.
It's so bad.
It's garbage in English.
And it's bad in Japanese, too.
But at least I'm like, okay, I get it.
The Kupo thing, I don't get...
I'm not bothered by that.
Like it's tradition.
I think it's fine.
Because it made for a great joke in the video.
Like Japanese suffix stuff,
like that when it's really non-traditional,
it's hard to work around.
Yeah, I know.
Well, in that case,
I think like you go for like an Ornifex style thing.
Ornifex's English voice acting
is just her like kind of crooing,
like a bird as she speaks.
But she's not adding a like baka
at the end of every word or sentence, you know?
And I guess I'm spoiled
because the best version of that hard job ever done
is Teddy's...
Yeah.
...smogalization,
in which that motherfucker says kuma
in every fucking line.
Yeah, exactly.
Sometimes, multiple times.
Are you seriously praising Persona 4,
the CHN game for doing that?
Like, what's your problem?
They left in suffixes everywhere
in the senpai's and stuff.
Yeah, but going,
but that's totally fine.
I'm totally fine with that.
But like going from
Teddy going kuma after everything
to just like, okay, what do we do here?
Okay, just make him make bear puns
constantly.
But no, I'm just surprised
because the mogul thing has been going on
for longer than I can even...
It's because this is the first time it's hit me
with voice.
But you know it was in 13, right?
Like it's...
Well, I didn't...
You remember that?
I never got that far.
The translation comparison, JPEG,
of like all the different groups
subbing the same...
Yeah, yeah, that's the best.
Which one do you fall into?
I don't remember that.
Because the extreme left
was like fucking just
googled Chinese to Japanese
back to English sometimes.
And then the extreme right was
whatever senpai, asterisk,
paragraph at the top,
senpai denotes that, you know,
all the upperclassmen,
and you just like,
you can't go too far left,
you can't go too far right.
All I want is I want
accurate translation
with the Japanese voice.
I don't want rewritten stuff
because I'm listening to it
and I'll be like, that's wrong.
Do you not want to see things
like Chan and senpai though?
Yes, like, sometimes it's just kind of
in English.
When it's voiced in English...
Persona, I gave it a free pass
because it's so like,
it makes no attempt to hide
that it's in Japan.
No.
Hey, can you answer any of these questions?
And removing those would then like
feel weirder to me.
I don't know.
It growls.
I think all Japanese games,
everyone should be eating hamburgers
and fucking...
Everyone should be...
Yeah, just go all in.
Yeah, just go all in.
I want a game that is so Japanese,
but like, we already have
a couple of examples,
but if the most,
they tried to change it
for America.
That game exists.
It's one.
It's called Persona One.
Persona One.
Oh yeah, they changed
all the characters' names
and they made them American.
They changed the whole concept to
American.
And they made the goofy weirdo
into a hip hop black kid
named Mark.
That's what happens when you
cross the Atlantic.
You just turn into that.
You just get black.
Comic relief.
And that game is a fucking...
That localization is an embarrassment.
Truly what Persona was always
destined to be.
Yeah, well that's why there's
the new PSP version
that you can play that is not...
Oh yeah, no, the new PSP
version is fantastic.
Yeah, yeah.
I love that.
I love the idea that being black
is a character trait.
Yeah, of course.
Of course.
It's a list of things that you have.
Do you want to be a mage?
Tell me about this character.
I think you're a black man.
Exactly, yeah!
The character designer's talking
to the writer and he's like,
okay, tell me this character's
traits without describing him.
Okay, he's funny.
He's black.
He's...
And it's like, hey, wait.
He's black.
Okay, he's black.
Yeah, okay, all right, yeah.
Yeah, it's that quick.
It's the job system.
I'm black man.
Warrior monk, white mage, black mage,
black mage.
It's your job, yeah.
Oh, I'm not going to do that
anymore.
I'm going to switch.
I had a rough time with that job.
Wow, I'm waking so much more money
now.
Okay, so for me...
Did you play anything else or
did you do anything else other
than touch up?
I went and saw some movies and
I finished Kimmy Schmidt.
Yeah.
Kimmy Schmidt was really funny.
I finished Kimmy Schmidt too.
Yeah.
And I watched Scope Tom.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Scope Tom is pretty sick.
Yeah, Bo Tom's, right?
Yeah, yeah, we'll get to that.
It's cool.
Why is Kimmy Schmidt have like two
separate full like hit on target
expose jokes?
Right?
I told you.
Yeah, why?
I told you guys the other week and
nobody believed me.
I remember, I remember.
Some of the jokes that we're running
like the expose thing for that one
episode and the Olsen Quedrine
is killer.
The Olsen Quedrine is killer.
That gag goes on all episode and
it just keeps coming back when
you expect it's dead.
I'm going through it slow.
I haven't finished yet, but yeah,
it's pretty fucking great.
I was really bummed because I got
to episode 12 and I thought there
was 26 episodes.
I thought there were 14 more.
And then, yeah, and then my
girlfriend was like the next one,
the last one.
I was like, yeah, I'm not ready
for that.
For Pat and Liam that finished it,
the only thing I found annoying is
that in the last two episodes,
some situations are only arising
because some characters are
unreasonably stupid.
They're actually like written.
Tina Fey, get out of here.
Tina Fey and that cop,
that cop there, like that's just,
we can't figure out how to write
a realistic situation, so we're
going to have these people be
unreasonably dumb.
And that was my only kind of gripe
with them.
I'd say like absurdly stupid.
I'm throwing my pants at this tree.
Well, one of the major
final scenes that goes on for a
little while, like just
demonstrates obliviousness
on a massive scale.
Yeah, it's
otherwise it's good.
Good casting on that preacher.
Great cast.
And good job hiding that character
for the entire season because of
the beard.
It hit me right at the end like,
oh, that's who that was.
Oh, that's good stuff.
That handsome guy.
Okay.
All right.
So I didn't mean to cut you off.
No, no, no.
I'm just trying to like, okay,
like that.
I don't think there's anything in
there to take.
Yeah, no, there isn't.
There isn't because someone told
me something similar.
Oh, okay.
Anyway.
It's a good show.
Yeah.
I was in a weird mood a bit
earlier where I was like, I just,
every once in a while I feel like
watching undergrads again.
Yeah, me too.
But there is nothing.
I don't get that feeling ever.
Yeah.
I've never seen undergrads.
Oh, you should watch it.
Or like, or like Clone High
or Daria.
Hey.
Yeah.
I just get this.
I just get in this mood because
like undergrads is one of those
things where it only became known
by.
It was dead.
Brute.
But like brute force,
Teletune, nonstop airing this
for years.
And the only reason Teletune
even aired it is because the,
the creator was Canadian and
there was like some sort of
Canadian funding that went into
it.
It's the.
Even though it was like.
Yeah.
Yes.
There's a Canadian mandate that
says Canadian created content has
to be a certain percentage of what
they hear.
Yeah.
You hear, you hear,
they're going to try that to do
that to porn channels.
Oh, that's amazing.
Finally.
Finally.
I can end my hunger strike.
It's like all these fucking
American porn studios are putting
Canadian porn studios at work.
Awesome.
I don't know if,
like on a tangent,
I don't know if you saw the recent
CRTC stuff where they were saying
like we're investing the money in
the wrong way.
And instead of making a bunch of
Canadian content, they're going to
start funneling the money into
really good content.
What?
No, no, but like,
because of course the previous
thing was everyone would come and
apply and they'd make a bunch of
cool stuff.
Yeah, I know.
I know.
But now like.
When I was flying back from Japan,
I'm sitting in a cafe and some guys
sit next to me and we start talking
because we're getting on the same
flight and we're starting talking
about Canadian TV.
And I'm like, man,
fucking Canadian TV is such a
Canadian TV and film is such fucking
garbage.
So hit or miss.
And then he's like.
I work for the.
So here's my card.
And he's like a big wig and like a
Toronto like theater company.
There you go.
And I'm just like.
Ah.
There you go.
There you go.
He was cool.
Bridge successfully burned.
Yeah.
Mission accomplished.
Like before I get the car.
Yeah.
Yeah.
The fucking thing is burned.
So in Korea, undergrads.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
In that movie.
So you watched Farms then.
No.
Fuck you.
God damn it.
Never.
Hey, it's the same thing.
But I was just kind of sad because
I'm like, there's nothing that I
haven't already.
There's nothing that scratches this
itch.
And then I remembered there totally
was that I never went back to
watch.
Downtown.
Yeah.
I remember I mentioned that to you
like.
First one.
I remember I mentioned that to you
a month ago and you were like,
no, I never really caught that.
And I was like, dude,
you would love it.
They make Tekken jokes.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And it's totally.
Yeah.
They drop Eddie Gordo in there and
stuff.
But it's totally the exact same
formula.
You've got the nerdy main character
that is not too nerdy because he's
got to have the way nerdy or friends
to offset it.
Asian friend girl that's platonic,
even though they might have a thing
going.
And then unattainable.
Like I want to get her dream girl
type thing who's way less than she
seems.
And it's like it's the exact formula.
I didn't realize that clone high
undergrads and all these other shows
just straight up lifted it.
Right.
And then added more money to it.
I guess.
And did their own thing with it.
Yeah.
But like downtown really invented
that formula.
And it's such a shame because it's
like it was it's a really low budget
show.
You can see it.
But it was enjoyable nonetheless.
It's nice that like apparently I
didn't realize it.
But one of the Megas XLR cameo
characters is from.
Yeah.
Yeah.
MTV's downtown.
And nice.
And no one can start the universe.
But they can.
But they can never release it
because it uses all these actual
pop songs.
Yeah.
From MTV.
Oh.
And in the background because
that's cheaper than actually making
a score.
And that's one way to kill the
future.
That's a very Japanese way to make
a show.
Yeah.
You know what?
That's the most underrated
Canadian cinematic universe ever.
Yeah.
Sure.
And it just fucking sucks because
like you're trying to cut corners
on the budget everywhere you
go.
Yeah.
You go whatever.
Just play the top tits and that
will be our background music.
Exactly.
And then you just forever,
forever tainted.
You can't ever release it.
Yeah.
You can't do that.
Really if you still want that it's
scratch night.
Can't remember you ever telling me
if you saw it before.
But you know Mission Hill, right?
Of course, Mission Hill.
Yeah.
Mission Hill is like I consider
that in that same show.
Yeah.
And that still has one of my favorite
jokes ever where a guy comes back
from Japan and then they go,
you know what?
You know what?
You know what?
You know what?
You know what?
You know what?
You know what?
You know what?
You know what?
You go and they, they say four
of us in Japan and then they go,
did you get anything for us in
Japan.
He's like, sure did.
And he throws like a chocolate
bar and it just says Anus bar on
it and they're like,
good Anus bar.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I'm sure.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Now every once in a while I
dropped one or two Mission Hill
jokes in what we did.
Yeah.
No.
That's a good one too.
And yeah.
No, I also I I spent a lot of
time playing a thing that people
will find out about later this
week.
Okay.
You kinda sunk into this one.
Oh yeah.
That thing that.
Yeah.
You put a lot of time into it
so we get to record it.
Yeah.
Yeah.
You know, that I can't talk
about.
And the thing people were
wondering about before what I
was talking about last week,
what I got it really into was
Front Mission 3.
Yeah.
It wasn't Monster Hunter.
It wasn't Monster Hunter.
It wasn't Dragon's Dog Month.
Fucking Front Mission 3 is so
good.
Oh my god.
Tell me.
Tell me you're still into that
please.
I'm super still in.
It's just I was.
Yeah, I know.
But tell me you're actually
trying to construct Twitter
and seeing him explode with
Gizjoy over skill use.
Like he blew one.
It's like oh my god.
Ryoko just attacked four times
in one round.
It's the sickest.
Yeah.
It's like that is the best.
I had a bunch of people
contact me on Steam just like
where can you buy it?
Can you buy it on PS3?
Like yeah.
It's there.
It's there.
It's $6.
It's there.
Five.
It's six.
It's six.
I was looking at the last one.
Aren't they all $5.99?
Yeah, you should be.
Let's go buy our next PS1 game.
Except for FF7.
I don't remember.
Maybe.
They know.
They know.
They know.
Yeah, that was fucking great.
That's priority one for sure.
Yeah.
And then just sort of on my
like Gundam kick because I'm
just in the mood more than ever
now.
So finished off going through
those data movies.
You loved being in Europe actually.
Finished off watching some of
the like the best episodes of
ZEDA as well.
I just wanted to go through
this stuff again and then some
of ZEDA and then Charles Conner
attack again, of course.
And like I just you realize
something that like when you
remember how awesome something
is years out, you remember the
best parts.
Of course.
Right.
And you completely delete.
Yeah.
So in this down time and filler.
And in this case, it's not the
downtime because that stuff's
interesting.
I like unlike like Matt, I don't
mind the people talking in
rooms because it's it's you know
when I say that I said a joke.
I said it in the context when I
was a kid and Gundam was bright.
Right.
Right.
We're the giant robots.
Every time I turn around, there's
never one.
Zabby family are jerks.
They are.
Because because how's the car just
people talking in a room?
But holy shit, right?
Breaking bad is mostly people
talking in a room.
Absolutely.
Absolutely.
Yeah.
But in this case, I just
completely erased how utterly
annoying and fucking garbage all
the children are.
The children?
In all of these stories.
That seems like a large percentage
of the cast.
And it's not like and I don't
necessarily mean the babies.
I mean the teenagers.
Yeah.
That are all just dumb and whiny
and just run and jump into ships
and go off to try and convert the
evil girl that's kind of cute.
See, this is this is making me
like Gundam more and more because
that's how teenagers actually are.
I fucking I couldn't deal with
like you there's the top level
awesomeness with the adults doing
the cool shit.
But then you get to the tweens.
Yeah.
I just want to kill this show.
And you've got these like there's
all the child soldier evil girl.
It's always child soldier evil girl
and then dumb teenage kid going
off to try and convert her.
And then everyone's like you can't
save her.
She's bad.
And then she's like no get away
from me.
They kill her.
And then a kid loses his mind
and just starts shooting and going
nuts because no.
Yeah.
She was my angel.
She was okay.
She was actually very funny.
It's like it's like your own
little miniature Gundam scene
in every series.
Oh God.
Wully would you say that Gundam
magazine should have a top 10
most influential teens section?
Yes.
Yeah.
Absolutely.
It's the fucking worst.
And like for people who are
wondering the specifics.
Yeah.
I'm talking about cats and half
the way.
Fuck those kids.
Anyway.
Moving on.
Dumb kids huh.
Yeah.
Like those Gundam movies are
great.
The charge car.
Baa.
Charge car and attack rather.
The bat sounds great.
You go back and watch the best
cool suits doing their thing.
But just get ready to turn your
brain off when the teeny angst
shows up.
Fuck it's the worst.
That's just fun.
Yeah.
I know I'm talking to the air
right now because you guys
that's it.
I've never seen that.
I know.
But I just had to get that.
You know what?
I totally believe you.
Yeah me too.
Super annoying.
You're having to make no effort
to convert me to this cause.
Definitely.
Dumb teenagers ruin something.
Like this isn't GTO.
Yeah.
Where the dumb teenagers are
the star.
They're fired.
And.
And like like the T that's the
teenage boy trope and the
teenage girl trope is like.
Yo that villains pretty hot.
I'm going to just switch sides
now.
And be with that.
Yeah.
No.
Just straight up.
I'm running that way because.
You got to respect that.
Yeah.
But so you're down with like
murder and all that shit.
Look at his abs.
He's got that V thing on his
head.
Yeah.
None of us ever know what
that's called.
We just called the V thing that
we don't got.
Oh God.
They hit the thing.
It's undeniable.
Anyway.
That's me.
What I do.
Turgid.
What do you think?
Monster.
What do you think?
I did.
Of course you did.
I finally hit a wall.
I thought.
Okay.
So yeah.
You've only been looking at
my Twitter.
No.
I've been looking at the
camera in your apartment.
After after two hundred and
thirty eight and a half hours.
I finally hit my first wall in
Monster Hunter.
Which is.
At least it's the final boss.
Of the of the game.
Oh.
It's not the last monster.
But it is the final boss.
Though it's safe to say that
like it's only since you've
played other Monster Hunters.
Like had you never played other
ones you would have got.
I would have.
No.
In 3U I hit walls every
five monsters.
Yeah.
No.
Exactly.
Do that.
His name is Gog Mazios.
That dudes.
Bullshit.
Me and my guys I usually play with
ran in five times.
It took like half an hour per
attempt and we lost every
single time.
What's your problem with that?
My problem is he's a he's an arena
fight.
He's more of an event than a foot
battle.
Yeah.
And on it's a really awesome
fight in which you're in this big
huge battle arena and you're you're
you're you're piloting a train
around the tracks and loading it up
with cannonballs and then luring
him into the position so you can
shoot him with the cannonballs.
The problem is he's got these.
He's got just bullshit.
He's just bullshit all over.
He's got this fucking explosion
that the explosion hits you.
But you know when dust remains
from an explosion afterwards
if you dodge the explosion with
your invincibility frames but the
dust is still there the dust
hits you.
Dude monster hunters hit boxes
have always been done.
I know.
Have you seen that picture of the
fucking Jaggy swinging its tail
and like the hit box demonstration?
No.
It's not the Jaggy.
It's like the the tri-green
Plesioth that has the the
internet teleporting hip check
that can hit you 20 feet.
The hip check.
Yeah.
That hits you 20 feet out.
But like aside from the fact that
the boss is bullshit like that
fights amazing.
You're you're moving the train
around to shoot it.
You're hitting him with ballistas.
You have ground restraints that
fire off harpoons to lock it
into position.
There's that huge cannon on the
other side and when you fire the
giant cannon you need to buy ammo
for.
Oh god.
If you hit the monster the main
theme starts playing.
That's cool.
It has a you know the
Dragonator.
It's the fucking giant spears
that are used in these stages.
It's got one in its back
like an old one in its back
and when you break its back that
thing falls onto the ground
and you can use it once.
Wow.
Okay.
I like that.
I like that.
That's really cool.
I like that.
And the monster is the physically
largest on foot battle in the
entire series by an order of
magnitude.
It is.
It is like.
Because Frontier has.
I'm not counting Frontier.
I'm not counting Delamutter
or Jen Moran or Darren Moran
or any of the big like event ones.
So excluding a couple he's the
biggest.
Well he's the biggest one that
you actually fight on.
Yeah.
Okay.
He's like twice as big as the
next.
It's the next biggest.
So he's giant.
It's like it like he's.
God.
He's like a Lao Shang
or whatever the fuck that bug
thing is called from two.
He's that big.
And the worst part.
His gear sucks.
Like I looked it up.
On top of it all.
And his gear is trash.
It's not good.
Like you're better off using
anybody.
And like he's this roadblock
and I like I beat him.
I get to fight Raging Bracadillos
who I want to fight.
Okay.
But I don't want to fight
Gogmatillos anymore.
But I fucking have to.
That game's really good.
Have you managed to beat him
or?
No, no.
We fought him like three times
and then no.
We fought five times and lost
because one of the guys
that I usually play with left
so we're doing three people.
Yeah.
Okay.
And against him he's bullshit.
And I am not excited for
there's a new monster type
in this game called Apex.
Those are the ones that one
shot you.
Those are the ones that one
shot you and your weapons
bounce off them.
That was the reason that
like Monster Hunter 4 has like
a one-star review on Amazon.JP.
Because somebody's like Apex
monsters is bullshit.
Like 500 people who reviewed it
one-star are like Apex monsters
are bullshit.
But they need to put something
like that into the game
because otherwise the game would
just end at Gogmatillos
because like it already has like
God forbid it end at 200 hours.
God.
No, no, no.
It's like, no.
Here's the thing though.
Like adding the tougher guys
into the game removes nothing.
Yeah.
Except from the people that are just
super mad that they can't get
the top-level list,
top-level things.
Of course.
Can you imagine an 80-hour
Monster Hunter comes out and everyone
goes, what is this horse shit?
Yeah, well, yeah, actually.
That would be,
that's what people did with Trot.
Oh man.
That totally happens.
Oh man, that's great.
Because Trot didn't even have high rank.
Yeah, no, I know.
That's so sad.
Like because Monster Hunter's
11 iterations in now,
like people expect the world from it.
Oh man.
And Capcom is managing to deliver.
Willie, Willie, Willie.
Think of it this way.
Street Fighter 5 comes out
four characters.
That's it.
Certainly, but that's an actual
low number for like the entire
fighting game genre.
Yeah, but that's how,
that's how low 80-hour games.
For the hunting game genre standard,
Monster Hunter manages to one up itself
with its monster count every single time.
Total time.
This has 90.
Too many monsters.
Oh yeah, no.
If a Pokémon game came out with 30 Pokémon.
This has 90 monsters.
That's why I like Pokémon Black so much.
Because it's only the new Pokémon.
The new ones by themselves.
Until you finish the game.
It's got about 90 and then the subspecies.
And then they added the new mechanic in this game,
which is the Frenzy,
which acts as a third subspecies.
And then Apex on top of that,
but there's only like 12 of those.
And then more or less like Clone Monsters
when you really get that.
But the Frenzy ones act different.
That's the important thing.
I didn't know that.
Yeah, they act very, very different.
It's like they're in Permanent Preserve.
You know what, sorry.
Fuck it.
A Pokémon game with 8 Pokémon in it
would probably be really awesome.
If you had to find them and fucking climb
and traverse to get them,
that'd be awesome.
I wouldn't say 8.
I'd say something like 30.
Yeah.
That could actually be really cool.
Yeah, yeah.
I really wish they expanded on the Ori region
in Pokémon Colosseum and XD,
where Pokémon are extinct
and you steal Pokémon from other people.
I think that is sick.
I wish they would have expanded on that.
Like I was laughing,
but I was like wait a minute, no.
Hold on, there's something there.
Wait a minute.
No, not else much to say other than like this.
Like now I could review the game.
That's why Monster Hunter reviews are always hilarious
because even if you get the thing a month beforehand,
you still need another month afterwards.
Totally astounding game.
Only one problem, big problem with the game.
Big problem.
And that is...
Other than the Apex monster.
No, no.
I don't think they're a big problem.
Okay.
I think that near impossible end game stuff
is perfect for this kind of game.
I think that the DLC support they're putting out
is awesome.
Like they said every first Friday of the month,
they put out like 15 new quests or something
and they get you specialty goofy new gear.
Like one of them was really weird.
One was like,
here's a Rathalos quest that's co-sponsored
by Universal Studios Japan.
Mm-hmm.
What?
Okay.
But the problem is that some of those DLC quests
are required because some of the weapons,
like say the best fire sword in the game,
requires parts that aren't in the game.
They're only in the DLC.
Because the monster shows up in G-Rank as DLC.
So I can't finish my charge blade.
I can't finish the stupid thing.
Mm-hmm.
Because I have to wait two months for that monster to show up.
Mm-hmm.
But because I'm insane,
I'm already at that point.
That's my only issue with it.
And to most people, that's not a problem
because they're nowhere near this crap.
Yeah.
The only other problem I had was the one they gave you
DLC stuff for like your Palakos.
Like hey, look, you can dress them up as Mario.
Hey, you can dress them up as Luigi.
It's like these Palakot parts are garbage.
They're only good at the very beginning.
They're only good at the very beginning.
And it makes me excited because I really hope
that the Dante one is actually super hard to get
and super high level and actually worthwhile.
Yeah.
Teaming up with USJ for a promotional thing
makes me think like,
why don't they just get Attack on Titan in there?
Yeah.
Why not?
You mean like they did for 3U?
Did they?
3U has Attack on Titan.
Is there a Titan that you fight on?
No, wait.
Frontier?
No, is it 4 or 3U?
There is one of them, either 3U or 4,
that totally has Japanese release.
I thought it was Frontier.
No, no, it was definitely...
It might be Frontier also.
Because Frontier has...
A Titan you can fight at 3D mode over here?
No.
The costume.
Oh, okay.
Just the costume.
Hey, what?
Frontier has like Madoka and that.
Okay.
They're never...
No.
It can't be a...
Yeah?
It has to be a monster.
Before we launch into news,
would you mind opening up your email real quick
and looking at those games I sent you?
Oh, God.
Okay.
So what have you prepared for me, sir?
You guys should play Monster Hunter.
And no, we shouldn't actually.
Anyway.
What am I looking at?
I'm at the audience.
What am I looking at?
You're looking at a couple of arcade cabinets
that I felt were unique enough
for me to snap some pictures of.
Gunblade, New York.
Yes.
I haven't seen Gunblade in a while.
Yeah, and I kind of put them in, like,
order of rarity from, like, 1 to 8,
where, like, 8 is the most special.
Number 1 is like,
eh, I've seen this before.
Oh, Targetaire!
They used to have that at my old arcade.
So there's...
Okay.
Call them out as you see them.
Uh...
I can't read this.
I can't read this.
It's a surfboard game from Sega.
Yeah, Soul Surfer.
Soul Surfer.
That's a pretty good game.
That sounds legit.
And just looking at the waves in the background,
I see AM2 all over the place.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah.
Uh...
Rip and piece, AM2.
Star Trek Voyager.
It's a Star Trek Voyager sit-down cabinet with guns.
What could you possibly do?
That's like a Jurassic Park machine.
Exactly.
Can you see Seven of Nine's boobs?
Can you see them though?
Wow, there's nipples on that costume.
Look to the left.
There's a bunch of random orcs on the cabinet.
There's a bunch of biofreaks on the opposite side.
That's Sappo.
That's Sappo right there.
Uh...
We got...
Demolish Fist.
Demolish Fist.
Do you remember this?
Okay.
This was the name?
It used to be near our own college.
Yes, I couldn't remember the name of it.
I was trying to push you.
I said it's like Dynamite Cop, but it's not Dynamite Cop?
And you're like, I don't know which one, and I like to pick up a tractor.
Okay.
You beat people with the tractor and fight the limo.
Demolish Fist.
Demolish fucking Fist.
Yes.
That's the game.
Oh, hey, heads up.
Everybody changed your Twitch password.
Twitch just got hacked.
Amazing.
Sick.
Nobody's safe anymore.
Batman.
Yeah, this is a...
Which Batman is this?
This looks modern.
This is a fairly new game.
You drive the Batmobile and it's got like pretty decent graphics.
This is the one game I had time.
I was like, I need to play this.
And it was actually really hype.
It was like burnout with the Batmobile.
And it's got the butt logo too.
That's...
The butt logo?
Yeah, you know, like the old Batman logo from the first movie.
You got like two butts on the bottom and then like a big spread butt at the top.
You see it?
I never saw it that way.
What the fuck?
It's the butt logo.
No.
We got...
Metamorphic Fist.
Metamorphic Fist.
Metamorphic Fist.
Metamorphic Fist.
It's basic.
That looks like a beat-em-up.
Oh, yeah.
It's bloody roar beat-em-up.
That's the game that the guys that made the X-Men Arcade game made afterwards that uses
the exact same like button setup and everything.
Yeah.
That's not very good then.
Two buttons, stick, same layout, though you can see the same HUD.
Right, right, right.
And then violence fights, of course.
The moon.
If you'll notice, it uses the Soul Calibur II like button setup.
You can see like Sophia's Sword and shit.
Well, this probably was a Soul Calibur II calendar beforehand.
All over a bit.
Who knows why they switched it out for this?
Before they upgraded it to violence fight.
Clearly you once cc'd it.
So again, what's great, these were all at the SWAT meet.
All of them 25 cents, one token.
Like as they should.
But there's another backup reason why I wanted to like set this up a little quick observation
is that across from Soul Surfer, there was one kid like sitting down on a bench not
looking at the game on his cell phone and I wanted to burn the world.
Yeah.
Because that kid should be playing Soul Surfer.
When I see a kid playing a game on a mobile phone, I just want to break their mobile phone.
You literally just talked about how you run and play games.
I know.
But it's someone, but it's kids because kids playing that will never get to learn about
good stuff.
Yeah, but if Liam was in front of the Soul Surfer.
I know what's good.
If Liam was in front of Soul Surfer, he wouldn't play his cell phone.
And that's a problem.
Well, maybe then Nintendo's new plan will educate them by slowly introducing mobile games that
bring you into the console side of things.
Man, fuck us recording these on Monday.
I was about to say, like, dude.
Trust me, I know, but it's like, this was the most painful ever.
Yeah.
But it's like Tuesday is the release date.
I know.
I know, man.
I know.
And we talked about it.
We're still going to keep recording on Monday, but this one hurt the worst.
It was rough.
It was rough.
So, break it down.
We've got Iwata coming up to the forefront saying, all right, we've got the NX, right?
We're announcing that we have a new console in the works.
And it's going to change your gaming life is the words he used.
The NX, like, I, you know, you could see people freaking out about the NX and stuff.
And I was just like, oh my God, this is the most overblown thing over nothing.
NX is a footnote.
NX existed yesterday, and it exists today, and it continues to exist.
And it is still nothing.
We knew it existed, but now we just have a prototype.
Now he has the official prototype name out there, exactly.
Yeah, I know, but it's like Nintendo continues to develop hardware.
Yeah, exactly.
Whatever.
How is the official, like, reveal, well, not reveal, but admittance of the new console
by far the least and smallest piece of news of this.
No, it's because of us.
Not because...
Follow it?
I watched it one at one point.
But no, I'm just like, the other parts of this are way crazier.
But he even, like, he said it specifically while he was going.
He said, we don't have anything to announce, but we're just saying that this is here so
that people don't assume that we're only giving up some mobile games.
What were you going to say, Matt?
I was going to say it was like, I mean, to shareholders and big, like, you know, websites,
technology, like websites and all that, they couldn't care less about what Nintendo's
hardware is going to be.
Like, they, oh, you're in mobile now, the thing everyone's been screaming at you to
do, even though, like...
Exactly.
You know, but NeoGaft are the ones that kept, oh, thank God, we still have an actual at-home
games console.
Even though it's going to be a weird cell phone.
But that's exactly it.
It's that, like, the juicier story is the fact that internally there's been all this
turmoil and strife with investors trying to push them into mobile.
Well...
So when they finally announce it, it's a juicier story event.
This is...
It's actually shit.
That we know they are making is being made.
Yeah.
So Nintendo's going to make mobile games.
They've partnered with Dina.
DNA.
And that's, they own MobaJ, right?
Do they own MobaJ?
I don't know.
I don't know if they're the same company or not.
I think they...
No, I don't think they own MobaJ.
I think they do.
They might.
But they're partnering with, yeah, Japanese cell phone gamers.
Which are, like, the eighth biggest cell phone company in Japan or something.
And they're going to be...
And they are nowhere near the top 10th in the world.
Just in Japan.
And the bullet points are they're not going to be porting anything.
They do own MobaJ.
They do own MobaJ.
That's it.
I knew it.
They're not going to be porting anything.
They're going to be making new stuff.
And the goal of the stuff they make is going to be to introduce people to the brands and
hopefully lure them back to the cars.
So they're going to make Nintendo smartphone games that are hopefully really, really good
smartphone games.
Hopefully.
And then at the end, it'll be like, hey, did you like this?
Yeah.
You know where you can get a better version of this?
That controls well.
On the not-we-you.
Not even like a better version, but maybe just like a prologue or like a thing that's
like...
It's all about brand recognition.
Yeah.
As long as you put out a good Mario game, you'll keep people thinking about Nintendo.
That's all that they'll be waiting for.
But if it goes hand in hand with like, if the genre or the way you play it goes hand
in hand with something that's about to come out, then it's like a bigger tie.
Sony's done that a few times with some of their mobile titles as well.
So Nintendo with the Wii thought that was the Wii was going to be like the gateway drug
of casual to more hardcore stuff and that did not hand out.
And this is round two of that.
Like get the casual smartphone user, hopefully hook them on Nintendo shit and bring them
in.
A little while.
Hopefully.
But also they get the cash from smartphone games.
I don't know.
As a bonus.
I'm really hoping that, you know, the titles they put out are good.
But you know, they put out Pokemon Shuffle recently and Pokemon Shuffle is, it's fun,
but it's just mobile gaming crap.
The most garbage fucking, yeah, with an energy bar and it'll take Nintendo like 15 years
to learn it.
Don't worry.
They'll be fine.
Well good.
I don't want them to learn how to make full mobile games the way they are now.
Yeah.
No, no.
I mean, it'll make, it'll take them 15 years to make non-garbage.
Because right now, like Rusty's Real Deal Baseball is fantastic.
It is great because it's a free to play game that runs on the business model of you buy
the content you want to play with and you own it forever.
Right?
Yes.
Free to play business model other than the whole game is free.
But like, you have to wonder like, you know, how much of this is like, sort of concentrated
business plan and how much of it is conceding, you know, to like pressure.
Yeah.
How much of this it is like, okay, we're putting down the fucking barrier, the AT field has
been ripped open.
I'm going to say that the difference between the two is nebulous because I'm of the opinion
that they would, they knew when the, when the investors and the shareholders were starting
to scream about this, that they would eventually have to.
And that they, that's why they, like every time people would scream for it, they would
push it and they would push it and they would push it because they didn't have the, either
the deal they wanted or the plan or fucking whatever.
And this is the time when both of those like breaking points converge.
Yeah.
But they're like, okay, we finally have a pretty good idea of what we want to do.
And people are getting really mad.
But, but the whole thing with like Nintendo is sort of like, you can call it stubbornness,
but it's also just like, whatever you, I don't know what the word is.
They don't want to fuck it up with this.
Vision thing, you know, like with the console, when they're saying like, if you just make
a power box, that's boring.
So the NX is going to also be something.
It's going to be something interesting.
Yeah.
It's a small handheld device.
It's similar to a phone that you can plug into your TV by an HDMI cable.
And it makes me wonder.
Leave us a thumbs up.
Yeah.
I'd rather a stand, but yeah.
Yeah.
No, no, no.
Sure.
Just an HDMI cable.
No, no, no.
But the stand has an HDMI cable.
Yeah.
Let it stand, block it in.
Same shit.
Do it.
And then it wirelessly connects to a controller.
But the thing is, is like after, after seeing like the, the, the bubble that popped, that
was the Wii, and then the Wii U and, and, and, and like the, that whole business plan of
innovating has been priority one the entire time, but it didn't work.
They didn't.
They didn't work again.
They didn't innovate with the Wii.
They did actually.
They didn't innovate with the controller, but then none of the games actually.
But that, but that, but that's not, but that's not, but that's not, but that's not.
Pat here, they didn't.
Like the games, especially at launch, were not.
For fuck's sake.
We're not enough.
Like, we're not enough.
Tropical Freeze shows a black screen on the fucking game.
Certainly.
But, but that's not innovation.
But the point is that.
But the point is that they, they didn't just.
A bunch of people tried to copy them.
They still made.
And quickly the innovator people start trying to copy you.
I'm not saying it's a success.
It's not a success.
No, no, no.
I just said it wasn't.
To me, I think it's, it was less innovation than they usually do, but they still made a
tablet and stuck it with their console.
Oh, it was more innovative than the GameCube.
They still took the step, right?
GameCube's like the least innovating console of all time.
Agreed.
That's true.
That's true.
I don't know.
I disagree with that.
I think you're crazy.
All the, all the GBA connectivity and stuff that.
That no news.
That, dude, that led into a lot of stuff more recently with remote play and such.
And you know, the DS being able to communicate with the Wii and the Wii.
But it generally was more of a normal console than the other stuff we're talking about.
For sure.
For sure.
And they put a handle on the console.
Of course.
No other, no other consoles have hand held.
Yep.
The new dawn of consoles that had handles.
I wish.
I wish that would have happened.
I could have gone for some handles.
There's no handle on my DS.
How am I supposed to hold it?
I can't hold it.
I agree.
I feel, I feel like I'm walking with a lunchbox.
Exactly.
Exactly.
I look silly.
That's what people call it.
The, so the new thing though is just like, how much of that are they going to push?
Are they going to go for Wii levels?
Are they going to go for game pad levels?
Are they going to go for just like, yeah, it's a power box, but we've got one slightly
new thing.
And it might be like software.
I think it's what Pat and Liam and kind of, I think me and I think Willie, you agreed
is just like kind of what Pat was saying, just make some sort of handheld slash console
that, you know, that, that Mary, that Mary's both those things, Nintendo success, just
do something like that and make it decently powerful.
They're so good.
They're so good in that.
And what a statement sounded like that's not necessarily the thing they're thinking
of when they say, change your gaming life though, like in a parallel universe, they
could have been the guys that put out the connect.
They could have like that initiative, that could have happened because it's, it's quote-unquote
different, right?
So I think the, the focus of the next one is probably just going to be like a unified
OS that's going to, that's going to move forward similar to Apple devices and they're
going to have the Nintendo OS and it's just going to work on their handhelds, don't work
on their consoles.
It's going to work on their future platforms, just like with iPhones and Android, your,
your titles will continue to work forward and they're just going to keep building in
that way.
Okay.
That could change.
That changes your gaming life.
Yeah.
I think that's what they're going to shoot for.
So you don't, you don't think a peripheral?
I mean, I, I think a peripheral could be part of it, but I think that's going to be like
the most important core thing.
Is that changed to a, like a unified structure for a long time?
Liam, I disagree.
I think the most important core thing of this console is that you should win things while
playing.
Yeah.
You're right.
How could I, how could I ignore that?
I just want to pull it back for a second.
Well, you said that the parallel universe in which Nintendo's the people who created
connect, do you know how close you are with that?
How?
Like the, one of the lead developers on connect was that guy that, well, I forget his name
is a programmer that did all those demos of weird goofy shit you could do when you hooked
up a Wiimote to the PC.
Oh, the guy, the agent guy that put the glasses on and was moving his head around with the
backwards Wiimote.
Microsoft got him and he built the connect.
I didn't know that.
So Nintendo had just said, oh, this guy's using our technology to do this.
Wow.
Like they could easily grab him and he'd fucking bail by the way after connection.
Yeah, sure, sure.
He got his money.
Yeah.
When I hear head tracking videos are cool.
I remember those.
Man.
Anyway.
Account system.
Account system.
Yeah.
So that, yeah, that's what.
Dina's going to make or DNA or whatever the, they're going to make the account system.
That was a takeaway I didn't like actually was that they're building, well, that DNA is
going to take care of their account system and stuff.
I don't like the idea of the account system being in a third hand.
Hand it off to someone else.
It's not like Nintendo would be able to make a great one because they've tried.
No, but you know, granted, they've had 10 years to work on it now and they're still
not there.
Yeah.
It means that the account system can go away.
I guess what I'm saying is like if Microsoft or Sony's account system was handled by a
third party, I think people would find that weird as well.
Yeah.
You know, like, I just don't understand why they got digital river to fucking with the
system.
Learn what they need to do and do it instead of handing it off because it's like spend
the money to make it internal because they're trying to make software.
Like, you know what I mean?
It's like, there's, are they, are they, or it's like, or it's like, are they just
higher or more software engineers?
Like, like, are they going to like bubble boy the account system if they get their hands
on it too much and they're afraid of that?
I don't know.
Just fucking allow people to just said the magic word.
The magic word was game spy.
We just saw this happen.
We just saw a third party account system just dry the fuck up and have hundreds of PC games
just die on the phone.
Like, like, I don't think it'll happen like that because, you know, Nintendo is, you
know, footing the bill for it.
But I think not having it internally is weird because it's like, hey, we want to make a
change to it.
Okay, let's go to DNA and ask them to program the change.
And here's why it's double weird.
What does DNA mean to North America?
Nothing.
I mean, nothing, but that doesn't really matter.
That doesn't really matter though.
Because at the forefront, you're going to be on your Nintendo console and you're going
to have your account.
They're never going to know that all the system decisions can be made out in Japan doesn't
fucking matter.
As long as the servers and whoever's handling the server infrastructure out in the West
is that fine.
I think it's weird because like, you know, I've worked on games before and Matt's worked
on games before.
And the idea of, okay, we have to ask this studio to ask a third party to do something
always takes way longer to call up the server guy, tell them we need a downage.
This has to come on like looking over their teams and who they are worse for them and
being like, we can't do it.
Like straight up, no matter how much money they throw at it, like there isn't enough
staff that they could buy to actually do it themselves.
And since they were already doing the deal with...
Well, that's where I have the issue because that's objectively false.
Like Sony does it, Microsoft does it.
You just hire people and they do it.
They have to hire the staff.
They're not making any magic.
They're just copying other companies.
You know what?
I think you're right, but I think that they think what I just said is true because I think
that they think that it is magic.
I don't know, Matt.
I think, I don't know.
I don't know what I think.
They're taking a weird route here.
The fucking telltale has an account system and they've got two sitting there, but it's
like...
It works better than Nintendo's.
Yeah.
Nintendo can just hire people.
They can just hire people.
They should be making one.
Anyway, anyway, anyway.
It's weird.
We've got to move on, though.
We've got to move on.
As long as you get to the point where I don't...
You don't have to call someone to help you with your fucking digital shit on the phone.
No, you have to mail them a thing, though.
There was a fucking NeoGav post that hit directly the heart of this, like last week
was some topic.
Hey, I need to sell my 3DS.
How do I keep my games?
The answer is you don't.
You know what's the most embarrassing thing would be in the future if they suddenly aren't
working with DNA anymore and then they have to go back and scrape all the DNA logos off
of their products and stuff like that?
They bought 10% of DNA at the same time, so...
Sure.
That means Sony owns...
They put skin in the pile.
That means Sony owns 0.14% of Nintendo!
Speaking of scraping the logos off of things...
Hey, that the week was this week.
Yeah!
We did a Sony The Ender's 2 video.
It was pretty good.
It was really hype.
You can't buy that kind of timing.
You can't buy that kind of timing.
That video was frozen in time because holy shit, are we wrong?
I am so happy that we recorded that moments before the news came out because that type
of video can never be made again.
No.
That was the last one anyone will ever do, ever.
If we missed out by a few hours, it would have just been a major bummer video.
Matt, you should check out the Sony The Ender's 2 video to see how fucking wrong we are.
This is like before, like when it was uploaded, you know, I just checked the videos randomly
and just like, oh cool, that has that intro, you know, for mecha week or whatever.
And I remember thinking when the news hit, like not too long ago, I was just like, did
we do anything recently where we talked a lot about Kojima or anything like that?
Yes!
And I was like, oh, I bet that there's some stuff in that video, but I didn't know exactly
what you were probably like a third of that video.
I think the quote that's my favorite is Liam saying like, he practically owns Konami.
In all fairness, I think before that day came along, I think Kojima was the king in his
house.
And he could do almost anything there.
So Konami doesn't think so.
So let's take it from the top then.
Basically the Cliff Nils version is that news breaks that Konami, that Kojima might be
leaving after Phantom Pain is completed.
Then that gets upgraded and confirmed into Kojima Productions as it is no longer exists.
Kojima Productions LA has been renamed to Konami LA and Kojima Productions main, the
top staff have been changed from employees to contract workers, including Hideo Kojima.
Right between there, just remember that it was like such a sign of confidence that Konami
would give this man his own mini label within their company.
And at that point, I would say...
With his own name on it!
I would say, wow, he's never going to leave this company.
What a sign of support!
But then, yeah, but that was what ended up being the nail in the coffin.
Because of all that support and giving him a logo and a name inside of Konami, the name
Konami gets shadowed by fucking Kojipro.
And so they decide...
So right around this time, they put out the statement saying that both Konami and Kojima
will continue to work on future Metal Gear things.
And the decision to rename Kojipro was a top-down decision to make things more...
I forgot what the exact word was, but it was a word that implied the brand Konami needs
to be more important and the center office needs to control things.
But Konami...
99.9% of companies is the absolute right strategy.
Right thing to do is to consolidate your brands, and for 99% of companies, that's perfect.
Like Nintendo's a good example.
But Hideo Kojima, I think, is the one exception in the entire industry where his name is on
his name and the place that he works have a disparity of quality.
And in theory, I assume that he's been kind of crafting that studio for the last 10 years
of his life.
It's like that's something that he's been at working on.
So that's where we leave it at the official stuff, the statements and releases.
And then we get into, okay, so that's Konami's statement, right?
There's clearly more here because they're going to old games and scraping Kojima's name
off of them.
I think it's just the legacy collection and Ground Zeroes, right?
Well, the things that they can and all the websites, the logos, and then the Twitter
account says, hey Koji Pro subscribers, go to the new official Twitter account, Metalgear
or whatever.
I'm not sure that Twitter account has been got a lot of polite disapproval.
This strikes me as the most Japanese thing ever to do, scraping your name off, you dishonored
us, you know?
Polite disapproval from other Konami employees.
So yeah, the various Twitter accounts, the official Konami Twitter accounts were throwing
out snide comments or favoriting people that were telling Konami to fuck off, which was
just this delicious little like, oh, this is so the head office's decision Konami South
America or something like that was like Konami Latin America posted something that was like
where others see crisis, some see opportunity.
We all know who the real big boss is, and it's like really man, yeah, with the big red
Konami logo right there, like all of Kojima's supporters are squeezing out their pony tails
and although all the water is going into Konami's mouth.
So you know, the brain naturally then wanders, and wanders, like what happened, what's going
on and like what's the future of stuff, there's more than a disagreement, especially when they
put up the posting for, hey, we're hiring a whole bunch of replacements, we're hiring
a new director and a new main staff, hey, that's the same people that are all on contract
work right now.
The people underneath them weren't talented enough to fill the spots.
So Willie and I were talking about this before we came in, it's like in retail where the
supervisor leaves to go somewhere else and they're like, we're going to hire a new supervisor
and everyone steps up for the promotion and nobody gets promoted because no one's good
enough to get promoted.
They hire some schmuck from two towns over.
Even if they're legally obligated to look internally first, they still go with the outside
I think all this just stems from like, like just as my best guess, my mind automatically
goes to, hey, make Metal Gear 6 right now, make it now.
And Kojima was literally like, no, I'm done.
And then they're like, well, you're out.
Like that's what my mind goes to.
It could be because he's been trying to leave for the last three games.
So it could be.
And they did already stop Metal Gear.
I don't think he wanted to leave.
No, no, no.
He wanted out from the director's chair.
And Wally, why does he keep coming back to the director's chair?
Because when his team starts making Metal Gear, he comes back and goes, what the fuck
are you guys doing?
You guys are so bad at this.
So I'm sure Metal Gear will be fine without the guy that saved three of the games in the
series.
Also, good thing they announced that the new Metal Gear is already being worked on, like
straight up.
They've also announced that it may not necessarily be Metal Gear Solid, which would be smart.
Which would be smart.
As long as it's not solid, I don't think I'll be bothered.
They're lucky enough to have a franchise where the last word is changeable.
And that works.
Like keep doing rising with Platinum and do something else.
It's possible they don't do rising with Platinum because Kojima was the one that pushed them
to go to Platinum.
No, certainly.
It's definitely possible.
You're right.
But keep doing rising.
Keep doing no gear.
And it won't push anybody.
Like, it won't push anyone off.
It's like you clearly have named it a new thing and that's what it is.
Now that being said, as a new thing, I am not obligated to have any faith in that shit
whatsoever.
Certainly.
That gets fucking scooped eyeballed out to hell.
Actually, I think someone that gets left out in the cold is that I think the only reason
why Silent Hills was the way that it is is because Guillermo del Toro and Kojima probably
are good friends and they like the same types of stuff as Cinema.
So that must fall apart, at least the Guillermo del Toro part.
Before just bouncing into the other franchises, because there's a couple things to be said
there, I just want to say the whole changing the name or having the comparison thing, it's
almost like we experienced firsthand with the difference between two best friends play
and super best friends play.
And it doesn't matter what the number is, it's a thing that people recognize as this
or that.
So changing the last word in that is totally the right idea.
But the problem with this is that more than, and Liam said it, more than any other single
person in this entire industry, you know that Kojima makes Metal Gear Kicks.
It's the first thing you see every time you start one of his games, and he's more closely
associated with Snake than Miyamoto is with Mario, right?
So I feel like that's going to be a big hit to take from the next one.
Like Ground Zero's shipped with logos and vocal descriptions of Kojima and Kojima LA.
And Kojima's in that game.
It's shipped with a model of Kojima in Insighting.
Insighting.
With his voice.
It's shipped with a line that says you can erase the symbols, but the memories will always
remain.
Wow.
Like...
It's all there.
But Ground Zero's is, I think it's like a really consolidated version of Kojima's relationship
to Metal Gear.
We don't know the inner workings of the development of MGS5, but the way that this timing and
this announcement has gone on for when that game's supposed to release makes me feel that
they've hit the point where they feel they can dump him.
Like, enough of the game is done.
It's like, one, you gotta get rid of him before you three.
Well, he said he's gonna finish working on this game.
Yeah, I know.
But you can't...
Like, you need to scrape the name off.
But he's only leaving it December.
Yeah, but like, he's not gonna be at E3 doing Metal Gear shit.
Who knows?
Who knows?
That'd be insane.
That'd be insane.
Well, one of the most interesting things is like, what's the new studio name gonna
be?
Right?
I hope it's something cool.
Konami.
Konami Japan.
What do you mean?
It's Konami Japan.
No, no, no.
I mean Koji and his dudes.
Well, my worry is he just stopped making games.
Oh, that's crazy.
I hope not.
I hope he doesn't go make movies.
He left with people.
No, no.
But I just mean, until there's a name there, I'm just gonna be like...
The fact that it was not just him and there's people with him, I feel confident.
If I was Kojima, I would ask some lawyers, like, can we name it Productions Kojima?
Can we call it Koji Pro, like, actually?
Can we call it Koji Pro 2?
Yeah.
So when it comes to PT, it's like, yeah, Guillermo's the guy that had that deal.
Yeah, I did some digging and it's like, it appears that the deal for Silent Hill is with
Del Toro and Konami.
But...
And Kojima was working on this.
The only reason he got in to begin with was because his buddy was there that he'd be like,
hey, let's do this.
Yeah, and also...
Hey, we're superstars.
It'd be super fucking weird if they shipped in some rando to go work with him.
Also, it was...
Well, I don't think Silent Hills is gonna get dropped.
I think it's gonna finish.
Oh, no, no, no.
It'll finish.
Yeah.
But I worry about, like, what this actually means.
Sure, sure.
So you get a call up Kojima just on Sundays and be like, hey, man...
Well, I just mean, like, a lot of people are saying, oh, it's gonna get canceled.
I don't think it's gonna get canceled.
No, no.
I just fear that what was supposed to be a slam dunk to bring back Silent Hill is now
going to be like a failed layup.
Also Guillermo Del Toro...
You make it cinematic.
He makes it a good game.
Guillermo Del Toro is really famous for, like, not liking things, like certain decisions
that happen within the studio, upper management structure.
I think he doesn't...
He's a bit of a rebel too.
He's a bit of a rebel and he'll always raise complaints and, like, I think I remember I
told you guys I watched a documentary about poster art for movies and he wanted this one
guy, Drew Streuzin, to do the posters for Pan's Labyrinth and Hellboy 1 and 2.
And they were like, no.
And he was like, fuck you.
And they're like, well, sure, I guess.
But we're still not gonna make the poster and he's like, OK, well, I fucking hate you.
They're like, yeah.
And he's like, I'm still gonna honor our agreement, but I hate you.
So...
You don't get a project like Pacific Rim off the ground and into people's eyeballs without
having a disdain for corporate culture, right?
I wanna make my robot movie!
I'm gonna make it, goddammit!
I don't care how many years it takes on the back burner, it's getting fucking made!
You know?
So that's exactly it.
And then as far as Zoe goes...
Zoe's dead or the dead?
Well, here's the deal with Zoe, because it is not, remember, it's not directed by Kojima.
It's said to the day of Kojima!
It's produced, produced by Kojima.
Yeah, remember Japanese development?
Yes, producer and director are interchangeable.
Because of the trailer and the hype, we get a bit into it, but the facts are that he's
not the director, he's the producer of the Zone of the Enders games.
No, he's the producer of Zoe 2.
All I had to say about Zoe is the same thing I had to say about Zoe in the Zoe video,
which is they've already made gorgeous new models for a new Zoe game and they've shown
them off publicly, so I don't think his leaving is gonna affect it too deeply if it happens.
I think, and that's exactly it, I think like, you know, he's the guy that cared about it
the most, and he's not gonna be there anymore, and that's a bummer.
But again, it's not a directed by him game, but he's a little more important than that
oversaw.
What is happening with the Boktai franchise?
That's what I was literally just gonna say.
Like Boktai must be finished now, which is really upsetting, because they were all really
good.
I'm setting to me and Liam, and I guess that's about it.
Sunlights.
Boktai was really good, you shut up.
Lunar Nights.
Lunar Nights.
Lunar Nights was fun, that had a schmup section in it.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
That was a good game.
All right.
That's a fucking mess.
It's a fucking mess.
It's a fucking mess.
Well, it's fine.
We can actually now talk, you know, this one's a big one because it's like, okay, yeah,
hey, guess what?
Predators in MKX, right?
And like the explosion kind of hits the public, and I feel like, at least for us, we're kind
of just looking at each other going like, yeah, we know, we can finally talk about this.
We've known for a minute.
We finally have the okay.
Oh, that's awesome.
But that reveal was sick.
That was a really good reveal.
That was great.
That was great.
Yeah.
I feel bad for Ed Boon because we sure aren't in the MK2 era anymore.
The game isn't even out, and almost all of its secrets are being revealed.
Yeah, and they keep trying it like every game, it's like.
But that's probably a good thing?
Sure.
But no, I know, I'm happy, but I feel bad for Ed because Ed loves that stupid secret.
There's never been a stronger pregame show for Mortal Kombat than there has been.
Oh, totally.
Yeah, without a doubt.
And for the game, this is the best, knowing that the Predator is showing up, that's the
best.
Oh, no, Matt just died.
We're going to try.
No, wait.
I still hear him.
Everything's back.
You're good.
We're all right.
That was weird.
That was a weird one, but we're okay.
By the way, Matt's in Florida.
So the idea that, what should we call it, the video introduction of everyone doing the
lock up, and it's like, no, wait, he was already there, that's fucking sick.
The other announcement that got buried under this is what's wrong with Tanya's face?
Well, that's yours.
I didn't think anyone said that.
You got beef there.
You're just like wrong with her head.
I just like to judge people based on their appearances.
Whoa, I just think Netherreal needs to hire a new face person.
No, Cassie looks great.
The other announcement that I found to be equally as awesome is the introduction of
quitalities.
Quitalities.
Yeah, quitalities are good.
That's super fucking solid.
Yeah, he leaves a good face.
Is that for quitting?
So here's what happens.
Is the rage quitting?
Mid-match, if you rage quit, whatever happens, your character's head blows the fuck up and
the other player wins, flawless victory.
Flawless.
That's it.
And they get a registered win on their account.
That's good.
That's good.
And you see a video of it happening, and dudes getting comboed to shit, mid-combo, head
just fucking blows up, character goes into win pose.
Flawless victory.
Can you actually make for some really awesome replays of certain combos where it's depending
on the person's quirks?
It makes the rage quit, it makes the match even better, amplifies it.
And the quote is like, yeah, we wanted to make the person who got quit on as godlike
as possible.
They wanted to make them feel as awesome.
This is a fantastic solution to a problem that's never going to go away.
That's significantly better than GameStop's UI pop-up that says the opponent has disconnected.
Or a jail system that doesn't actually work.
That sounds good in theory.
It's cosmetic, of course.
But that's totally fine.
The most important thing is that the winner gets a registered win.
And I'm going to assume the loser gets a registered loss.
I would hope so.
I want to assume.
It's the most important thing, because rage quitting means nothing if they don't get
punished for it.
If you don't get a loss.
Because all you're trying to do is avoid the loss, and if it doesn't work, then people
will ideally stop rage quitting.
Of course, the question is always the distinction between a super lagged player that didn't
rage quit and just got fucking disconnected.
Yeah, you know what I mean?
It can't be helped.
What do you do?
I thought a lot about this.
You don't want to fuck those people.
I don't care.
No, you did think a lot about this.
I think that's the right answer.
You've got your gut reaction.
They decided to play online with super laggy connections that if you want to play, good.
Fine.
Come play.
You drop out, you fucked my game up, or you fucked somebody else's game up, and it's
just a win-loss record.
Yeah, exactly.
Yeah, I mean, the server is there as a third party to see who just connected and decided.
In the press release for all this stuff, it also confirmed a lot of other things.
It confirmed Liu Kang's in the game as a playable player.
Yeah, I hope it's Fire God Liu Kang.
It confirmed Dylan's skin for the director.
Yes, yes, yes.
I like that a lot of people were like, maybe even rightfully so, is like $30 is too much
or four characters, but you do get four characters and 15 different character skins, which is
a lot.
That sounds worth it when you add that many.
And that's $5 per character.
It's better, but I still think it's way too expensive.
Dude, I honestly thought it was $20, $30 is like that's a bunch.
That's welcome to next gen.
Yeah, I guess.
Yeah, no, no, that's the right response.
There's a lot of street fighter that gave you more for less.
Yeah, so.
Yeah, but all the skins are terrible.
That's like the most subjective thing in the world.
I'm not talking about characters.
No, but the last gen they did, woolly.
Yeah, guess what?
Really, Predator is better than Street Fighter characters.
Matt Combat confirmed.
Here we go.
It's fine.
It's not combat.
How many fucking matches are we going to have to play against the Predator when we
go to Matt's house?
Everyone.
Every single one.
No, because I won't take the overpowered boss characters.
Don't worry.
Dude, I don't know how stupid I am, but I'm pretty stupid that that did not click for
me until like last night when I was watching Max's video that there will be three different
because of the style of the characters.
Yeah.
Three different Redditors.
And three different Jason's.
Three different Jason's.
Yeah.
Like that, when you're bringing guest characters, that opens up like way more than the existing
ones.
But when you're bringing guest characters, you can have like Jason from Jason 4, which
was the fat black.
That's why I said Jason X is going to be one of them.
Oh man, that's...
And you can have all of them.
You can have AVP Predator.
You can have Naked Yachua with just melee blades.
You can have the guy with the gun and the tech and stuff.
The full tech.
And then you have the middle, which is the Arnold one.
Yeah.
Totally.
It should be AVP Predator 1, Predator 2 as your Predators.
And while we're on fighting games, I don't know if you guys got a chance to listen to
Beowulf's voice.
I did.
Yeah, I did.
Super Dragon.
Oh my God.
Oh my God.
Best grappler of all time.
Just fuck.
Like, he already was and now it's just like un-fucking questionable.
Unquestionable.
Unquestionable.
I haven't seen them.
Explain.
Okay.
So he's straight up.
He's a wrestler, of course, that is shouting out like hype shit to the crowd while he's fighting
you, but also whispering to you, like, okay, slow it down.
High spot.
Oh, man.
Okay.
Pin me.
Pin me.
And then he gets, and then he has his like, yes, yes, yes moments.
He shouts out Super Dragon.
Shut up.
When he fucking loses, he goes, no, my heat.
It's so fucking good.
Really inside baseball shit.
And then they throw in some references there.
One of his wind quotes is about K-Fabe.
I didn't hear anything about that, but like, he throws in all the, he just calls your brother.
Finally, the wolf has come back to Meridian and they even got some obscure shit in there
like cry for the moon, which I don't know if you remember, but Matt, the X-Men Japanese
intro with the song like cry for the moon.
Wow.
Like he shouts that out.
Where that's from.
He said that's where that's from into the trash it goes.
Like he just fucking has all this great shit and like already his move list is the best
and now vocally just done.
It's done.
Beowulf is God.
You got to go listen.
I like fighting.
Hey, speaking of wrestling, well, you saw the Kote Kishi versus Yoshihiko Matt.
What a champion.
I just, I just want to put that out there.
You have to watch this fucking match.
You know, that that that doll has had several matches like against like mega and people
and like, this is this is its best.
Yeah.
Well, I don't know because like in the last one I saw the guy, he did a straight up Zangief
spinning pile driver, the ultra like he did the double suplex break you on the knee, jumped
and spanned around and did it like straight up.
This one did eight suplexes in a row.
It was really good.
It was really good.
Really good match.
Uh-oh.
Matt, did we lose you again?
Matt's lost and he might be back and he's hung up.
There we go.
Oh, by Matt.
No, no, no, he's typing.
What's he typing?
Someone in a jacket just ran into his place and stabbed him with a knife.
No, I'm okay.
I'm okay though.
All right.
All right.
Welcome back.
You're back.
You're back.
Yeah.
Sorry about that.
I was just going to say that for the Kenny Omega thing and well, not the one that right
now Koji versus the doll, the one thing that kept running through my mind was watching
it was like, wow, more passion in psychology than a John Cena match.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
The comments where they're like, these two really work well together.
They got good chemistry.
Yeah.
Like, and that crowd is getting way into it on every pan.
As into it as Japanese crowds.
It was great.
It was great.
Oh, Christ.
We have it.
That happened this week.
We have to mention that we have to point people towards it.
You blew it up on Twitter and all that, but if you haven't seen it and you care about
wrestling any one Iota, you should go look at Max Landis' wrestling isn't wrestling.
Yeah.
That thing is amazing.
I think we all pushed and retweeted it.
Yeah, I know, but there's people that don't follow our Twitter that listen to this pocket.
No.
Over the weekend, I'm talking to Max about a few things.
I saw that tweet.
I saw that tweet.
Also, did you guys see that triple H saw it?
Oh, what did he say?
He replied to Max and just says, like, wow, you totally get it.
And then Max just went my head, please call an emergency truck because my head just exploded.
That's fucking great.
The fact that that fucking Paul LaVec sat down and watched that.
Yeah.
Yeah, man.
And that last shot probably made triple H like tear up a little.
Yeah.
We're the cameras.
It made me tear up.
Yeah.
I marked out.
It's just slowly zooming in on these random girls playing wrestling.
Okay.
It's not random, but like these girls.
Willie, what is your favorite girl in that?
Because I'm always torn between the CM Punk girl and and well, what's the other one there?
I was like, oh, man, she's super cool.
Okay.
It's got to go to CM Punk girl by a fucking landslide because she's got like the CM Punk
scowl.
And she's got the side hair and the tats and the little Sina girl.
No.
No.
No.
It's the best one.
Her fucking Sina girl is the most dead on.
Oh, I'm Superman.
You can't fucking touch me.
Yeah.
Just the pan down of the Bible with the dead smile just kills me every time.
Her constant smile.
Oh, my God.
That's the best.
I'm not going to sell at all.
I have been humming the wrestling isn't wrestling Sina remix all week.
So good.
Yeah.
It's really bad.
It's fucking amazing.
No, but that's it.
And like a match line is for those who don't know is the guy that he wrote Chronicle and
he's also known for doing the Superman is dead video.
That was like death of Superman video that was like yeah, which is the same video, but
for comics.
Exactly.
Which is why he's got all these C level.
You don't care about Superman.
Even if you think you do, let me tell you how fucking wrong you are.
Yeah, which is why he's got all these C level celebrities in there.
No, the reason he's got C level celebrities in there is because he's what's his dad is
the guy who fucking wrote babysitter club and all that shit.
No, John Landis.
John Landis.
Yeah, we wrote like American werewolf in pair directed where American werewolf in Paris
and lots of like 80s and 90s movies.
Yeah, so there is a really good like mini look at wrestling and focusing on one character
and see what the whole thing is.
It says better than any of us could say like what rustlings appeal is perfectly.
It's a comic book.
Yeah.
It's a comic book, but that but that thing toward what always gets me in that video.
And I think when me and Pat and Liam watch it together where we all kind of crack up
is when triple H's story told over two decades, it's a more monumental like thing than like
Lord of the Rings or something when you put it in that.
It's the story of one guy in the roster and there's like how many guys on the roster
like so many that they had to let them go.
Yeah.
Exactly.
Unbelievable.
Yeah.
That's a good, that's a good, good shout out there.
Uh, well, what else is there to say?
Fuck you.
Let's go beyond Virgil playable.
We've got Trish and Lady confirmed for Devil May Cry, especially just like crazy.
I don't think anyone expected that.
No.
So I checked it out.
And all the new costumes.
Shit, like tons of stuff.
He needs more power.
Yeah.
I checked it out.
The way the breakdown works is the Virgil gets his own whole game.
Yes.
And Lady and Trish, or is it Trish and Lady?
It's Trish and Lady get to be Nero and Virgil.
Oh!
Nero and Dante.
Sorry.
Nero and Dante.
Oh, nice, nice.
So it's still the switch over.
Yeah.
And half and half it.
Yeah.
I'm interested in Lady because he said she's entirely ranged focused.
Of course she is.
But that's interesting.
She's having a ranged character completely.
It looks like she's going to have a much bigger move set that's based around the Kalina
Anne move set from DMC3.
Yeah.
Like probably that mixed with like some of the Pandora stuff.
That sounds really fun.
Well, like there's one move that you see her do in the trailer where she does a stinger
with the Kalina Anne and it has an explosion at the end and the explosion pushes her almost
all the way back to where she started.
Right, right, right.
Yeah.
So that is fucking awesome, unexpected, great fucking bonus content.
Did you see that?
And a release date too.
For Virgil they said he's based off his DMC3 incarnation but they're adding moves from
DMC Devil May Cry.
From DMC Devil May Cry.
And they also showed...
And they also showed...
Chordachodoras confirmed.
Which is pretty cool actually.
Because there was some stuff in there.
They show off like what appears to be a super move at the end of that and what I think it
is is that Virgil's going to have an equivalent of Nero's super grab attacks against the bosses.
Because it's against the Toad.
A snatch equivalent.
Well no, it's just like the boss, you know, against the bosses you do a buster and you
get a huge thing.
Yeah.
I think Virgil will have those as well.
Which is awesome.
If I can Lunar Phase, I'm good.
I'm good.
You can not only Lunar Phase, you can Reverse Aerial Lunar Phase.
Which was a mod for DMC3 that they've now put in this.
So this is clearly like the fannest package.
Now I'm motivated.
So DMC5, like halfway confirmed.
You notice what was at the start of that trailer in Big Giant Letters, Hideaki Itsuno's name.
It was not scraped off.
Because it's like, look, it's Itsuno, he's always been putting in the work making that
thing.
You gotta laugh at Kimia's Twitter.
Matt, I don't know if you saw it, but someone linked him to the trailer and he just kind
of replied, hmm.
And then the next tweet was, dice levels are shit from like the end of the dice level
at the end of the game or whatever, like just this one that's the only thought he has on
the matter.
It's like really, that's your takeaway from like all this cool new stuff?
Dicenes are shit.
Yeah.
I don't blame him.
It hurts, man.
It hurts, sure.
And he wakes up every day and was like, I feel like he's over it.
No, because Blue is in wonderful 101 and he wanted to make a blue game that was just
Dante.
No, I know.
I feel like after a certain while you get over it, it's not enough Gatorade in the world
to drown this.
It's calloused over, sure.
But it's not.
Sure.
But the soul still burns.
The soul still burns.
You can flick that scab off and it'll bleed.
All right, so the other piece of Nintendo news that we kind of skipped over there.
So that Zelda Netflix thing, according to Iwata, is not based on correct information.
That's the best way to de-confirm anything.
That is confusing.
But it's awesome at the same time.
So he's not saying that they won't consider it, but he's saying that that article in question
was out of fucking nowhere.
So it's like, what, okay, let's say, let's ballpark it.
Half the things in that article were wrong.
Which one?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Maybe they're working with Netflix on something else.
Maybe it's not Netflix.
Maybe it's the whole fucking studio.
Maybe it's like some Japanese Netflix or maybe it's Crunchyroll.
Who the fuck knows?
Maybe they were talking about pixels.
Maybe it was nothing all along.
Boo.
Duh.
Booing you right now, Willie.
Boo.
I think Matt's usage of that silly dog picture was that pinnacle when he posted pixels.
You know what's the sad part, though?
Everything?
No, not everything.
Adam Sandler?
That's what's sad.
The short that it's based on is actually cool.
Oh, yeah.
It was based on a short that was made like five years ago and it's just a little silent
sort of shot of, I think, San Francisco getting taken over by these pixel things.
By space invaders instead of eating shit.
And then eventually they just pixelize the world until the whole planet becomes a cube.
And it's a cool short film.
And that's all it needs to be.
Out of the entire trailer, I think when you watch it, it's kind of like, okay, fine,
right up until James is on the screen.
Well, no, even when he shows up on the, yeah, whatever, I think that that gag near the end
with Pac-Man.
The guy, the Pac-Bad guy.
Yeah.
Super embarrassing.
That was cringy.
That was super cringy.
It was one of the most cringy things I've ever seen.
I like the lead-up to it, but the actual gag.
Yeah.
The lead-up wasn't too bad.
And it's just like, hey, have a racist sounding accent kind of.
That's the part that's funny.
And the sad part is that-
You know that's him, though.
No, it's not him.
It's an actor that looks just like him.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Because he looks just like him.
Yeah.
No, it's a Canadian actor.
He's acting way too silly to actually be the guy.
Well, I do.
He looks just like him.
No, I know.
He was right.
But he's also wrong.
Can you really fault me for that?
The sad part about it is that unlike, say, like Eddie Murphy movies, where he's just
like, okay, they're carting him out to do the sad fucking thing so he gets his paycheck
and then shipping back to where he came from, Adam Sandler secured the rights to this on
his own and like worked it for the last couple of years until it got to this point.
So this was actually his pet project.
It's not just him getting called in for a paycheck.
It sure looks like he's part of it.
It's a shame, man.
Anyway.
Happy Gilmore's a good movie.
It is.
Did you see Little Mickey?
I saw Little Mickey.
Okay.
That was the turning point.
We're moving on.
Did you see Big Daddy?
I did see Big Daddy.
Hey, John.
John Stewart's in that movie, and that's weird to me.
John Shrunk Love was in half bad.
Was he just an actor in that movie?
Yeah, he was.
He was just an actor.
We'll all see.
There you go.
Wow, Valkyrie Drive.
Liam.
Wow, Valkyrie Drive.
Take us through this.
So the guys...
Wait, wait, wait.
Sorry, Liam.
Right before Mortal Kombat X is matte combat, this is clearly Liam Battles.
I have a theory.
What's your theory?
I have a theory.
I have a theory that thematically, this is probably too much for Liam.
So I just want to say, I didn't put this on the docket.
No, no.
I did not ask for...
You know what?
Nope.
I will say, I also didn't put this on the docket.
I saw it and audibly gasped.
Yeah.
So after like Sandra and Kagura was like pretty successful in Japan, they said, okay, you
can make something else, do something else, because you did it the first time.
And so they're making a mixed media project that's an anime, a console series, but it's
a Vita game for the first one.
And unclear whether the last one's a smartphone game or a web-based, you know, like social
game or something.
Is that trailer for the game or the anime?
That's the anime.
Okay.
And all of them star different sets of characters, but they're all in the same universe and
it's just, you know, split between the three, which is kind of cool on its own.
And it's just...
It's Uri.
It's just lesbian anime girls fighting.
But the girls...
But the weapon turns into...
Some of the girls turn into weapons.
Okay.
And how do the girls turn into weapons?
You got to get super intimate on the whole point.
And they have their boobs together.
What's wrong with that?
Sounds great.
Your weapon turns great.
It's not going to argue that.
No.
So I guess this got put on here because on Twitter I said this looks way better than
that.
Yeah, that sentence like was the most poorly worded thing ever.
What I meant by that was like the character designs at Sandra and Kagura are fine, but
the world is just generic Japan.
It's the most generic Japan.
It's so boring.
And then you look at this and it's like, okay, it's...
At least they made it go.
Something sad to see world.
You were talking about the literal theme.
The literal exact theme.
As opposed to theme in terms of...
Exactly.
And that's why I was like super mad confused on Twitter because I'm like, what?
No, but it's just like the world looks so much more like it looks like a world that
is just generic Japan.
It's like, eh.
And like, frankly, the games were good.
Like there was good action in the Sandra and Kagura games, so if you get that same level
of quality in terms of gameplay, I'll be happy with it.
At this point, I've hit a straight up point where I'm just confused.
I'm generally...
I don't get it.
If you're going to pander this hard to the people that want this for the pandering, there's
porn.
You know there's just porn.
Yeah.
That's not exciting.
I don't get it.
They don't turn into weapons, do they, Pat?
And it's okay because they're just weapons.
Oh man.
But I mean they still want to make cool games.
They're not real people.
I'm not talking about the creator.
Oh, okay.
I'm not talking about the consumer.
Sure.
You know what?
You know what?
There's an actual in-between market of people that like it just that soft as it were.
Just right on the edge.
Right on the edge.
Yeah.
Okay.
Monster Mon piece.
I guess that's not for me.
Chobits.
But it's also like it's a fun game.
Like whatever.
Yeah, well sure.
But like...
Dude, you bought our Kenna heart.
I bought our Kenna heart to fuck with the training mode.
I'm sure you played with some other stuff in that game.
We put Fisticuffs, we put our Kenna heart on Fisticuffs for you.
And look how that turned out.
And you, and this has been turned around on me.
Well because then you got, you got like swirled up into the body explosion of our Kenna heart.
I can't tell you how happy I am that we got that on video.
Yeah.
I can't tell like...
That being said, we would have never known.
If you're like...
I had like a fucking death note light face looking up at the sky.
Like yes.
Yes.
If you're not at work, go check out the Valkyrie Drive trailer.
But only if you're not at work.
Because like that trailer is an experience.
Because I'm watching it like yeah, there's, that's the physics I expect.
Yeah.
From Senran Kagura.
And then I'm watching more.
And I didn't know anything about it.
Other than the name.
I was like, wait what?
What?
Right.
Also even if you're home make sure your mom's not watching.
Okay.
That anime is probably going to be bland as fuck.
And then I came off of that like man, that's the fittest premise ever.
That's the fittest excuse ever.
Speaking of...
But just to be clear, I'm not excited for the anime.
The game I want to play.
Well we'll see how like if the game is like even more cheesecake than that.
Which would make that pretty hard.
I hope so.
It would be great.
Here's the minigame to do the thing.
Speaking of bland as fuck anime.
I really hope Gunslinger Stratos is not garbage.
Yeah.
Cause that trailer looked accurate but didn't excite me.
I haven't been excited for the Gunslinger Stratos anime at all.
At all.
At all.
The trailer did not show me anything that got me going yeah.
Because it has to live up to the game and how could it.
But the games world itself is already mainly just good cause of how it's playing.
It's not that exciting.
Like it's not necessarily the setting.
No that's what I mean.
It's like live up to the excitement of the actual gun peripherals and all that.
So we'll see I suppose.
And I you know you've got me interested because you delivered a solid product.
So you got me to look at what your lore is.
But I don't know.
You know.
It's like it's the whole thing of like if you adapted Gunslinger Stratos to a PS3 pad.
Which is very easy to do.
It would just be a disappointing nothing game.
Exactly.
You know what doesn't look like a boring bland anime.
What?
That preview video that came out for One Punch Man.
Thanks.
You took it.
That was next.
We could barely see what was going on.
But what we saw was fucking One Punch Man.
So I don't know shit about One Punch Man.
But what I do know is that it made the perfect transition in that preview from super high end
like advanced anime action to the fucking stick figure web comic man that he is at the
end of that trailer.
Which is the only shot that I know from One Punch Man.
That's the weird oval head bald guy.
He's almost a bit misshapen.
Yeah.
Love it.
That's how it started by the way.
Was it IGR?
No, no.
Because I saw people were happy.
Yes.
It is Madhouse.
It is Madhouse.
It is Madhouse.
Yes, yes, yes.
I saw that people were happy with every level of who is running this.
I really hope it's a good adaptation.
Well now I don't have to read it.
You should still look at some of the art.
I have.
I've seen all the animated gifts.
The art is breathtaking.
I've seen all of them.
Like incredible.
And not just the gifts.
There are just some single shots.
No.
Some of the two page spreads are just amazing.
That's space station man.
Like that ship.
The inside of the ship?
No, the outside of the ship.
Okay, yes.
Because the inside of the ship is a different thing.
Wow, Plague has really taken this Beatles thing.
Outside of the ship is bananas.
Messaging me more about how much he hates the Beatles.
Wow.
Just nice ending to the latest parasite Eve you beetle loving chode.
That's great.
They also shut off the new Ghost in the Shell movie trailer.
I didn't see it at all.
Very little bits of footage.
And I'm like, oh, go new Ghost in the Shell.
It's a rise.
I was going to say, is it just a rise?
It's a rise movie.
And I'm like, ah.
But they built it up as if it was going to be like an actual entry part for you.
Do they still have surfaces in a rise?
Like now?
I don't know.
I'm not watching a rise.
Because the whole thing was Microsoft sponsored it and surface tablets were the input device
everybody had in that show.
That's just hilarious.
Now that Origa is gone, it's like why you didn't bother?
Did you ever see that fucking video of somebody pulled off like MSNBC or Fox or whatever?
It was some news, you know, national news.
And they had surfaces because Microsoft had paid.
And they were using the surfaces to prop up their iPads.
That's pretty funny.
It's the perfect backer.
It's about how my girlfriend got a surface.
Her mom works in film and she went to a big business conference and Microsoft was handing
out gift bags with surfaces in them.
To everyone who walked in the door.
And that's when I said to Matt, Entertainment 720.
It's that thing from Parks and Rec where it's like, Entertainment 720?
You come to our office and we hand you a gift bag with an iPad in it.
Because all we do as a company is bleed money.
Yeah, it's really good at it.
So there was the Valkyrie thing and other game that was sort of there.
Way more indie of course.
Is it something that popped up called Yandere Simulator?
Have you seen this?
I've been following this for a long time.
Okay.
I've been following this for a long time.
It's Hitman except you play as a Yandere girl.
A Yandere in a high school.
Oh man, this is such a good idea.
And it's straight up like that girl's talking to Senpai.
Go murder her and hide the body.
There's tons of footage of this game available everywhere.
Go look at it.
It's fucking awesome.
It's been awesome for a long time.
Like it's a one-man project kind of thing.
Yeah, exactly.
The guy's been posting on V for a long time.
He has a lot of good ideas that are not implemented in the video yet.
That he describes and stuff.
But either way, just on concept.
Hitman, but you're a crazy psycho girl.
That should come in together.
That makes sense.
You're a Nevaditan.
It's come a long way too.
One of the most exciting things, I remember at the beginning,
was when he finally got the pupil dilation to be correct.
And the more into the violence she is,
the more dilated her pupils become,
the more crazy she looks.
Go mop up the mud.
And people can see you like that and freak out.
It's great.
It looks really cool.
Did you catch, by the way, this morning,
Spike Chunsoft announced via Famitsu magazine
that they're doing a remake of One Way Heroics
for PS4 and Vita.
Really?
And basically they contacted the guy who made One Way Heroics
after they played it at a festival thing.
And they said, this is really cool.
Can we do a big, elaborate, reimagining remake of it?
And he was like, yeah.
And so there's very little available other than the magazine scans.
But they're doing a constant PS4 and Vita remake of One Way Heroics,
which we talked about like two weeks ago.
Yeah, but that skirts right around play-ism, I suppose.
Yeah.
It's a new game.
It has a different name in everything.
Oh, OK.
OK.
On Gimmatsu, it's probably still on the first page,
but it's a really new game.
Because that's what play-ism was showing off at Pac Seast.
Yeah.
All right.
So I'm excited for this.
It's going to get localized for sure.
They're really good at getting their games localized.
And as you just sort of mentioned them,
you surely must hear about our local fucking nonary game in Montreal.
Yeah, I did.
Yeah.
OK.
OK.
Kind of intrigued.
There's a local fuck like 999 style.
Get trapped in this urban maze.
Locked room puzzle thing.
Locked room thing.
Room escape.
Real-life room escape.
And it's actually around here.
Wait, what?
It's in Montreal.
It's in Montreal.
You're encouraged to go with, I think,
up to 10 people or something?
Why are we doing this right now?
I know.
I know.
We can if you want to.
We've got to go do live action room escape.
We need body cams.
And get your watch ready.
And then we go see what happens.
Actually, we should do that with cameras.
I hope that they would allow us to bring cameras,
because that'd be amazing.
Somehow I doubt they would.
Yeah, but it's really good advertising for their goodness.
Well, we'll see.
That's a conversation to happen.
Let's do a supercut.
There you go.
Hey, it probably won't solve it.
We'll probably get stuck and drown.
Oh, yeah.
Oh, that's the best ending.
Yeah.
That's what I've been waiting for.
Give blood, get blood-borne.
Thanks, sweetheart.
What a fun promotion that they did.
Yeah.
Is it still going on, or is it over now?
Yeah, so in Sweden, if you donate blood,
they blood-borne or a list of other possible games
if you don't want blood-borne.
Well, blood-borne is obviously the go-to gimmick.
You get a free copy when you do a gimmick.
It's a prize, isn't it?
It's a draw.
It's not a given.
Nobody's paying you 60 bucks worth of game for blood.
I'm pretty sure it's a prize, and it's not a gimme.
It might be.
Regardless, very cool promotion.
There you go.
That's marketing.
It's good to always give blood.
You should always give blood, people.
You should do that if you can.
I won't give blood.
If you're up to it.
If you're up to it.
But it's almost...
Well, because you're crippling fear.
Yeah, I can't give blood.
I have, like, cash seizures.
And also, no one would want your blood.
And also, no one would want your blood.
No, the last blood test I had.
No, the second and last blood test I had.
They're like, are you okay?
Are you having a seizure?
I'm like, no, I'm just freaking out.
I don't like it either.
It freaks me the fuck out.
I had that whole thing where my arms and legs were going,
and I had to put my head between my knees,
because it was like the whole vein thing.
Yeah, I hate it.
Every time somebody shoots heroin in a movie, I can't.
I can't.
Right.
Can't do it.
Yeah, so you have to sweep things.
You should give blood.
It's cool to give blood,
but I think the promotion is slightly...
Yeah, but you believe in that stuff, too.
What do you mean by that stuff?
You have...
Is it veins with you?
No, you're just eyeballs.
Eyeballs.
Eyeballs.
They don't drop.
They don't drop blood in your fucking eyeball.
I was trying to remember those ones.
Pointy stuff getting near eyeballs?
Oh, wait.
Did you ever play Dead Space 2?
Yeah, I was about to say that.
You just played Dead Space 2?
No, no, I did.
Dude, I've beaten that game so many times.
It's one of the best fucking...
Actions I've ever made.
I don't have that eyeball thing,
but man, even for me,
that last level's fucking rough.
Because that almost comes out of nowhere, too.
Because you get in the machine,
and then the thing comes close to you,
and then, like, boom,
there's needles in his eyes.
And it's just like...
Aren't you glad you don't need Lasik?
Dude, I'm like...
You can smell the burning.
I don't like getting blood stuff either.
It freaks me out.
Nobody likes it.
I have no problem with it at all.
My dad, because he's smoked,
and because he's like a thicker guy,
he has like...
His arm is too thick,
and you can't find the veins.
So there's a time,
and he's one of those old timers who's like,
oh, yeah, fucking jab me all fucking day.
I'm gonna give him a shit.
But he was getting a blood test
like 10, 15 years ago,
and it was a friend of his wife
doing the blood test,
and he knows her,
oh, hey, Sue, hey, how you doing?
And she misses it,
and he's like, oh, yeah,
he completely fucked up and missed.
And she misses it again,
and he starts to make fun of her
to the point where she's just raw missing it.
Wow, wow.
And like, he's taking a shot.
He's taking a full needle in the arm
every time,
until she's just like, fuck you, Richard.
Get out of my arm.
That's great, that's great.
I'm out of here.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Now, too, like, I've never...
I've got eight holes in my face, man.
You can give blood for the three of us.
I don't fucking care.
Like, it's fine.
Hey, Matt.
Sorry to let you know,
but there is a Nes pixel-colored Godzilla out there.
Yeah, no, I already preordered it.
Well, alright.
Congratulations.
But it's really neat,
because when you look at it side by side
with the NES sprite, which me and Pat played,
I think, during the Godzilla week,
it's as accurate as you could possibly get.
So, it's pretty neat,
but, man, Nekka is really running out of those...
But that's the...
But the bottom of the barrel
is where it gets the most interesting.
That's to me.
Because you get easily sellable stuff.
You get past the easily sellable stuff.
Exactly, into this,
or the fucking predator heat cam colors.
Yeah, oh my god.
That was so cool.
Like, that's the shit that I love.
Really, in the skin pack from Mortal Kombat X,
you saw how that's one of them, I think.
Oh, wow.
One of the characters in the Hunter pack has like...
Yeah, it's Infrared Johnny Cage.
Infrared Vision.
That's awesome.
No, it's Infrared Scorpion.
Oh, Infrared Scorpion.
So, I think that's very cool.
Infrared Scorpion's a skeleton.
Very cool.
That'll be interesting.
The...
Skeletons are cool.
He's just blue.
When we were...
That's when Infrared...
Oh, right.
There's just no heat.
When I was looking on, I was looking to grab...
He's being a hud of skeleton.
He's on fire.
He's on fire.
Yeah, you're right.
When I was looking to grab an article for the NX stuff.
Yeah.
For the docket, like, I involuntarily ran into my face palm of the week, at least.
Oh, yeah.
Where I just...
I went to the Google News filter.
Oh, yeah.
That's shit.
And fucking saw an article called Nintendo's Mobile Plans,
and the NX are a new low for the company.
And I'm like, okay, hold on, hold on.
Wait a minute.
Wait a minute.
How quick, matey?
I...
Who wrote this?
Just some random fucking nothing.
Some blog.
Are you sure it wasn't Kotaku?
And you go to...
It's like a gaming blog or whatever.
And the first thing you see before you even get to the article is trending articles on
the right, including top 10 free MMOs and top 10 screenshots from GTA Selfies.
Wow.
And you're just like, you got me.
You got me.
So what do you have to say?
Nothing.
It's just like absolutely nothing of value or contribution or of worth.
Great.
So, yeah, I just...
I laughed.
That's awesome.
Hardly, because like once again.
Yeah.
Every once in a while.
I thought you were gonna say that Google has decided that some of our videos are news
now.
Oh.
Did you see that?
Yeah.
Like if you search for some things, like the Type Zero thing is coming up as a Google
News result.
That's insane.
That's insane.
Uh, Gravity Rush Remastered.
Woo.
It's happening.
Glad I didn't play Gravity Rush.
No offense.
I don't know why you'd say you're glad you didn't, but...
It was a good opportunity to play it.
I wonder if we're gonna use the touchpad to recreate that sliding mechanic.
No, they're gonna map it to a button.
They're gonna...
I would have...
I was gonna assume it would be sort of...
No, no, the sliding mechanic.
It was a thing in the game because there wasn't...
It would put both your fingers on the touchpad, a touch screen in order to do a dash.
Oh, okay, okay.
And they're gonna map that to a button.
It was finicky.
Yeah, it was very finicky.
That was an imperfect game, for sure.
And like...
No, this upgrade will do it favors for sure.
I hope this remaster adds a little bit more content to that game.
Still no word on Gravity Rush 2.
Man, I...
I feel like that has to be in the little one.
It is in the little one.
Oh, okay, good.
Because man, that one little peek of where this series is going at the end of Gravity Rush 1 is amazing.
But the announcement for Gravity Rush 2 was like two years ago.
Yeah, we'll see.
Yeah.
Like, I've spoken about it like endlessly on forums and like at this...
No, no, he's confirmed a bunch of times.
Like, it's going.
It's going.
But like, you know, I've spoken about it a million times on forums and like on Twitter and shit
and it's like...
It's kind of upsetting but like pretty clear that Gravity Rush 2 is just gonna be for PS4 at this point.
Oh, absolutely.
Yeah.
That is kind of a bummer.
I can totally understand.
If it was PS4 and Vita, I wouldn't be so bummed out.
I think it's gonna be a more robust game as a result.
Yeah, but it's like...
My girlfriend, one of the reasons she got a Vita was for Gravity Rush and now she's lost out of it.
One of the reasons I got a Vita was for Gravity Rush.
No, I know, but like, it just kind of sucks for people who don't have a PS4.
Yeah.
In the same way Kingdom Hearts, you know, like people always say, oh, it sucks that it's on so many platforms.
Liam, I totally agree with you.
Platform switches just kind of suck mid franchise.
And it's only obsoles...
Like, it's not even obsolescence, it's just...
They're not doing it on Vita.
No, they just iterated it up because...
I appreciate this change, but I think you're totally right.
But for me, it's like, I have the PS4 and it's like, I want that mechanic and that style.
I want it to be pushed to the fucking limits.
No, absolutely.
And I'm excited for it too, and I'll play it.
I mean, same thing with the remaster.
Same thing with like Terraway and stuff like that.
Well, it's not Terraway 2, so...
No, but...
Yeah.
The name is different, you know?
It's just a remake, exactly.
So for Gravity Rush Remastered, it's like, yeah, sure, whatever.
But like for GR2, if it's not on both, it's a bit of a bummer.
I know, but like, that'll be a bit of a bummer.
Maybe you can all play it.
That'll make you feel like it's gonna work.
A little bit.
We might be getting another 400 days style bonus episode for the Walking Dead.
I'm totally done.
No, thanks.
If it's the same writing team as season 2, I'll pass.
I'll wait for the impressions, and if it's not mind-blowingly positive, like...
No, I'm not tapped out.
Their formula is too strict and too reliant on writers that don't work there anymore.
It's still something that I can play with the girlfriend kind of thing, like the decision-making story-based kind of game.
I'm still gonna give Telltale that much of a benefit, but it did take a hit.
It took a hit, but it didn't hit me hard enough that I'm out.
After playing Life is Strange, like, oh my god, does that game fucking kick Telltale's ass in so many ways?
Step it up, right? Step it up.
I complained about their engines so much.
Yeah, and I was about to say...
But now it's not just the engine.
It's not even just the writing and all that, but also it's like the engine problems have crept up on me over time.
And like, I played a bunch of them on PC, and it still runs like shit.
That's yeah.
When my fucking Superbox is still so...
I'm like, I spent money, man!
It's a scene transition stutter.
It's like, no, this is the engine. The engine is bad.
And the preview for the next chapter.
Yeah, it sucks, because like, Borderlands is good, I'm enjoying that, and Wolf Among Us was great, and like...
And you know what?
And then...
The engine is still just fucking crippling it.
I am tired of every single Telltale game coming out, me having to look up whether or not this one erases your safes.
Yeah.
It's inexcusable, man.
They're so successful right now, and their engine is just...
I mean, they must be working on another engine.
I don't know, maybe that guy that like chewed us out that worked with the engine could like clarify.
Because we had that on Twitter, I think, someone like...
Yeah, I recall.
Yeah.
But, man, I don't know.
Just switch to any other engines.
Switch to Unity.
Switch to Unity.
Dude, it wouldn't even matter.
Switch to Unity.
Have it be top-down, and whatever.
I mean, Unity could do anything, but...
Switch to the Scum engine.
Yeah.
Yeah, switch to Scum.
Run it off, fucking run for it.
Yeah, let's do it.
Uh, what is Final Fantasy Type Next?
It's a sequel to Type Zero.
Confirmed?
Well...
It...
Confirmed?
Pretty clear.
Why is Liam the one confirming?
I mean...
Remember, they licensed Type One and Type Two and Type Three way back, and like...
Did they?
Okay, I didn't know about that.
Yeah, and it...
It's after the events of the game.
Yeah, apparently there's a secret teaser at the end of Type Zero.
And does the artwork that they showed off like link things a little bit?
According to what I've read, yes.
Okay.
I have not dared to watch it yet.
Oh, okay.
Okay.
Yeah, because I'm like...
You're talking from the point of view of someone who's dancing around the spoiler?
Yeah.
Or is avoiding a spoiler?
The stuff about this is like the Kingdom Hearts Secret movies.
Yeah.
In which like, beat it on hard mode and you unlock the sequel tease, but it's also assuming
you literally just beat the game 10 seconds earlier, so spoilers are fucking free.
Yeah, exactly.
Yep, yep.
Apparently it spoils the vast majority.
They do not work as trailers.
Yeah.
No, exactly.
Uh, yeah.
I mean, looks pretty cool.
Good.
You know, Final Fantasy spin-offs, I'm happy with that.
I haven't played much of Zero, but I am going to play more of it.
Yeah.
And it seems pretty awesome.
Yeah, exactly.
The only thing I don't like about that game is, man, it fucking throws you in the deep end
on mechanics.
Like, holy shit.
Like the first level, I'm like, why is all these black silhouette men chasing me around?
There's way too much.
I don't get it.
I don't get it.
Yeah.
Remember the PSP version also had multiplayer?
Yeah, I know.
Like...
Did it?
Yep.
Damn.
And that's why, and then I looked it up and that's why those silhouettes follow you around.
Yeah.
And at the points that you used to earn multiplayer, but now can't.
Yeah.
You're going to turn that shit off.
Yeah, me too.
Does anyone care that they brought back Karmageddon?
No.
Okay.
That they brought back Karmageddon.
Karmageddon?
There's a new Karmageddon.
Karmageddon's awesome.
That was the Kickstarter one, right?
Uh, I don't know.
I just saw the Steam trailer.
If it was the Kickstarter one, then I threw a buck in its guitar case.
What I saw...
No, I don't...
That trailer shows off a fucking ton of game modes that are actually pretty, like, clever.
Cool.
In terms of cat and mouse style.
Right.
A lot of asymmetrical games and a lot of unusual modes for that style of game, and I think
that's pretty clever, but as an IP, I was done with the first one.
The name is lost on me.
Yeah, exactly.
I was done with the original, you know?
But that's also another game that I think Matt was laughing at the most, is like, the
driver name is also lost on all of us, so I couldn't less...
Right, right, right, right, right.
The sequel is not really a driver game.
But it's just like, and it's like, oh, what's it like?
Max is back, and I'm like...
Yeah, yeah.
I couldn't tell you who that fucking is.
Some crazy guy.
Yeah, he's murdering a bunch of people in civilians and stuff, yeah.
But like, you know, a country over, there's people running a podcast right now saying,
like, man, what a final fight reboot, even matter to anyone.
Yeah, you're right.
You know, and they're like, Armageddon!
You're super right.
That's happening right now.
Whether that's talking about the Speccy.
Exactly.
So, you know...
For us to pawn.
For us.
Yeah, I guess it's kind of nothing.
I just kind of remembered it as like, one of those games where it's like, yeah, look,
there's violence in it, but what else is there?
Exactly.
My memory of Carmageddon...
That was the tick on the box, was violence.
And my memory of Carmageddon is...
Yep, game plays.
It's sitting in a jewel case on the spindle, like, turn rack at the Radio Shack next to
Realms of Arcania and Brain Dead 13.
Okay.
That's my memory of Carmageddon.
Mine is booting it up, right?
Getting it to run and being like, oh my god, it's running.
Driving down to the football stadium, doing donuts on everybody, and going, all right.
And then switching back to Destruction Derby 1.
Because that's all there was.
Because Destruction Derby 1 is the shape.
What about stunts, man?
I was playing Midtown Madness 2 was the one at the time where I tried Carmageddon, and
I went back to Midtown Madness 2 immediately.
I missed Midtown Madness.
I didn't realize...
I missed stunts.
I didn't realize that, like, burnout.
All these games are great.
All my burnout love was just transferred from Destruction Derby love that I forgot about.
I just didn't realize.
This is your internal wooly sequel.
Exactly, exactly.
Letter time.
Hey, if you want to send letters to us, type them up in your email thing and send it to
superbestfriendcast.gmail.com.
But don't send them if you're Florida Man.
We won't read them.
No, we'll read Florida Man.
Did you find Florida Man?
Well, I saw that there's a Florida Man alcohol.
He sent me a picture of that.
They market Florida Man as a guy.
Is it filled with bad salts?
I didn't look at the alcohol because it's one of those things I'm afraid if I look the
alcohol in the eyes, it will bite me.
Does it have a scary tattoo?
I haven't actually seen anyone in Florida that I would say looks like Florida Man.
Everyone's actually been really nice.
Everyone's really nice to say how y'all thanks.
Almost like very southern hospitality.
Thankfully, I have not found Florida Man yet.
Hopefully you don't.
If you have stories about your encounters with Florida Man, once again, send that email to
superbestfriendcast.gmail.com.
You might send us a letter.
Sound a little something like this.
James wants to know and he's coming from Wisconsin.
He wants to know.
Woo, cows!
Have you guys ever learned a skill like a card game or a casino game or something along
those lines that translates into the real world because of a video game?
Oh, that's a good one.
No.
Bonus points if it was a side quest in a game that you had to go out of your way to find.
Something in a video game that helps you in the real world.
There's no Blitzball League in the real world.
He learned how to ten key because of all the spreadsheets you had to make in Eve.
That's a good one.
That is a good one.
That's a good one.
That's practical.
I learned how to memorize a bunch of useless horse shit fast by playing fighting games
and going through move list challenges.
But like a real world skill.
Like a game that teaches you how to play Blackjack properly because of a video game or something like that.
I'm really good at lucky hit.
I can atoshi down with a shit out of that fucking box.
I was going to say, like if we're talking about like stupid games that have a funny
manner, those like slide puzzles.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, it leaves a king at that slide puzzle shit.
He's a cake.
I think any game that has those like, especially like Mortal Kombat, like Test Your Sight,
you put the little ball under the cups, and as long as it's not rigged, I always find
that my eyes can follow that like a lot of people can.
But I always think that any time any type of game that like is like that visually based
on in a video game that you can play multiple, multiple times can help you out in real life,
like train your eyes a little bit.
There's a dead genre that existed only in Japan that was video game versions of a real
life arcade machine where you had to keep a metal rod from touching the edges.
You're irritating stick.
Okay.
Yeah.
Like it's like a pathway version of operation kind of thing.
And yeah, that had a whole genre of old ass like NES games.
Made by Jellico.
And I played those.
Okay.
But I never got to play the real life version of it.
So I'm like, I don't know if my hand would be steady enough, but I want to know.
Of course.
Yeah.
Maybe those skills translate.
You know?
No, I totally get that.
I got nothing else besides that though, James.
I learned how to drive a car from playing video games.
That's why I don't have my license.
I mean, I guess like, I didn't learn it from video games, but in modern video games, aiming
a gun is very accurate.
Not reloading a gun, not anything else.
There's no quick bar.
Aiming guns is very accurate in ADS mode, other than that.
Yeah.
No, that's a pretty good question, but I don't think we have any real skills.
A more interesting group of people would have a better answer for you.
Good, good, good call.
Oh, I know one.
We know a guy who learned to become a lawyer by playing ace attorney.
That's right.
And we know a driver who learned to drive by watching initial D.
Oh, it's true.
We do know these people.
Yeah.
Speaking of that, you remember...
These are not jokes.
You remember all those people who won that Gran Turismo?
Well, the driver's a joke, but anyway.
The people who won that Gran Turismo tournament or whatever, the GTA Academy thing.
And they got put in actual cars, and they're doing super good on the racetrack.
Wow.
Yeah.
That's awesome.
Because Gran Turismo is the real life driving simulator.
Nice.
I want to see the stick play GT.
I want to drive a car on my television.
They probably already did an episode like that that I don't know.
Yeah.
It'll be fun.
Imran...
Okay, when gun guns are real, then we'll be ready.
We'll know.
Oh man, we'll be ready.
Or VTs or whatever.
Yeah, we've got fucking...
We got our CVs digitally printed on the internet.
We just point them to that playlist, and they'll be like, yeah, all right, get in.
We got one from Imran, and he wants to know, hey, are Yen and Yang intentionally just
duo and trolling from there?
Yes.
Yes.
Next question.
Very intentional.
Moving on.
Because it's the same as Alex and Hugo.
They're just supposed to be Hulk Hogan and Andre the Giant.
Okay.
Dude1532 wants to know...
That's a lot of dudes.
What is the time span between the Kimura vs. Mashipa fight and New Challenger?
Because I got to hammer now just now, and...
Wait, what?
I got to hammer now, and Ippo's dog, Lampo, is still a pup at the start of New Challenger.
But, sorry, he's enduring the Mashipa fight?
Yeah.
He's a pup.
But the New Challenger, he's a full grown dog.
It's...
Shut up.
It's from a monthly manga.
So, you can do that kind of bullshit transition whenever you want.
Like, it's a week, but it happens to be...
It doesn't make sense.
It doesn't make sense.
Also, who built...
Another question, same thing.
Who built the G-catted from the Pacific Rim video?
That was our friend down at our local anime shop, Sci-Fi Anime, Lu, and it took him eight
years to fucking paint it.
But he eventually did, and it looks really good.
Fucking...
Like, wars have started and ended.
Ended in that entire time frame.
To make that Gundam get finished.
Pat, if you had to direct a stage play of Silent Hill 2, Jay Shack wants to know which ending
you'd use.
In water.
There's no...
In the water, there you go.
It's my favorite ending, and during the Silent Hill 2 LP, people came at me and told me that
it was also the developer's favorite ending, and it's the ending that appears to be Canon
and SF4.
SF4.
Yes, SF3, SF4.
It's my ending.
I would pick it every time.
That is awesome!
I think it would be more interesting if the audience...
What's on your screen right now?
Man, don't say dog ending.
The audience viewing the stage play have big red buttons, and they can choose the ending,
and the actors have to adapt and do other stuff.
That would be really fun.
I like that.
That's doable.
That's doable for us, too.
We got one from Chris, and he wants to know if we've come across any Spocked Canadian $5 bills.
No.
I totally have.
Oh, really?
I saw a 20 that had Akuma on it instead of the Queen.
That's pretty good.
A friend of mine came across that.
For the reference, Liam, this is what a Spocked bill looks like.
Yeah, I never saw one before.
And where you turn Sir Wilfred Laurier into Spock.
And if I'm not mistaken, I do believe I saw James Small doing this to a bill one time.
Oh, I'm sick.
If not, he either had one or was making one.
So one of the feel-goodest moments after Leonard Nimoy passed was the official statement
by the Canadian Mint telling people,
Stop doing this!
Stop!
You're doing it so much!
We have to dispose of all this money.
That you're ruining the currency.
Fuck it.
Here's a bunch of new fives.
They're made of plastic.
Yeah.
Fuck you guys.
And it's like they got up, but like, man, man.
Stop being such a bunch of downers, Canadian Mint.
Yeah.
You sold me a fucked-up commemorative coin.
Here's one that's answering a bunch in one shot.
So Oswaldo and a bunch of other people have asked us if we would ever consider possibly going to things
across the Atlantic like Gamescon or Eurogamer.
Gamescon is some shit, man.
Since we've been to like PAX and a couple of other local cons.
Oswaldo.
Oswaldo.
Oswaldo to Cologne, huh?
That is not a cheap flight.
I was going to say, I think we'd all love to, but I think it hinges on them inviting us.
That's pretty much what it comes like.
Yeah.
Because the amount of money we'd be spending to do that would be really high.
If the invitation were put out there, we would, I'm sure we would, but...
I would like to go to a con, like not even like a giant, like one like Gamescon or something,
but if there's a con, like a one with, you know, good attendance and people want us to go.
I'd love to go to the UK at least once, just so...
So we can do our bad accents and get beat up.
So we can do the bad accent so I can look at the River Thames and say how it should be pronounced.
The River Thames.
The River Thames.
So I'd like to be able to pilfer all the weird European PS2 games that they have over there.
Yeah.
Shadowloo Showdown is a fun event that happens every year that I'd love to check out.
I said it on Twitter, and I think on Tumblr one time as well, because like a lot of people ask us,
like, hey, can you come down to this event?
Can you come down to that event?
I think the number one way to get us to an event is when you're at the convention one year,
go to the feedback place where there's always a feedback place at every convention.
And say, hey, how come these guys weren't here?
And write it on your slip that you'd like us to be there.
And, you know, if enough people do that, they'll take, they have taken notice in the past.
Like, that's how we're getting out to a lot of people.
That's for real.
We'll go anywhere if invited.
Yeah, exactly.
And like, it's just like, you know, when we see two guys on Twitter asking us to come down to Ohio,
Greenland Con.
Ohio Con, or Greenland Con.
We're going to fucking throw Ohio under the bus.
Like, and we're going to, you know, it's not going to be enough for us to say, yeah,
We'll spend a collective $6,000 to go there.
And stay there and eat and everything.
Every year, all the world's biggest anime fans meet up at the Bering Strait.
Yeah, exactly.
And dump their anime into the ocean.
Yeah.
But yeah, I don't go to the, go to the feedback places at your cons and just leave feedback.
Yeah.
That's the only thing I can say really.
Call to action.
Call to action.
There it is.
You got one coming in from Andy and he wants to know, is there any use for the luck stat?
What's an RPG with a good example where the luck stat actually benefits play?
There's one.
There's one.
It's Raito Kuzunoha.
More than one.
No, but Raito Kuzunoha too's entire plot is about luck and losing and gaining luck.
And in that game, they tie the luck stat to tons of fucking shit.
And it's actually one of the best stats to level up.
In Mario and Luigi series, there's no luck.
It's instead replaced with stash.
Stash.
And stash gives you discounts on stuff because your stash looks good.
It does tons of stuff.
That's awesome.
But it's basically just luck.
And I got to give him a shout out because the name of the email was up all night to get lucky.
Yeah, that's good.
The luck stat in Demon's Souls is fucking terrible.
Doesn't Setsur have a bunch of stuff to do with luck or am I crazy?
I don't know, so you might be.
Setsur from FF Sets.
I don't remember.
Oh, okay.
Like I don't.
I don't remember any of the stats in that game because some of them were broken.
One of them was broken.
One of them was broken.
Straight up fucking busted.
Hell of fuck.
Okay.
We got one from Alex and he says, I'm calling you guys out on your shit.
Last week is easily the third time you've swapped the same Shadow of the Colossus War stories,
but you still won't take the time to explain what makes a character action game a character action game
because you're under the illusion that you've talked about it before.
No, we've talked about it before.
So we vaguely hinted at things here and there.
There is an entire full time adventure about it.
And to be perfectly honest, like we've even discussed the possibility of just making the fucking video, right?
Again.
Of just breaking it down.
Because the video already exists.
To go, what is it, what determines what is one and what isn't one.
But yeah, it kind of has been discussed before, but you know what, maybe, maybe that video could be useful.
Sometime down in the future when we have time to make it.
So, yeah.
An easy one to start is does the game have a weird made up action genre that the director just invented?
Such as stylish hard action or climax action or high speed robot action.
There's a lot of elements of character action games.
Does it give you a grade at the end of every section, every wave?
There's a lot of elements of character action games in other games too.
Like grade systems are something in character action games that also appear in other games.
Or character action style combat can appear in stuff like Darksiders 2 that has distinctly character action flavored combat.
But it doesn't have the rest.
Which is why I dare challenge and say that in our fighting game meanness episode of Fighterpedia where we're describing what exactly is a fighter and if Smash Brothers 1,
you kind of have the idea that there's an ideal concept for what this genre is
and some of the things that belong to the genre slide a little bit one way or the other.
So there are borrowed things.
And ultimately if you tick too few of the boxes you don't end up with one.
You don't end up with one, but in other cases you do.
I had a big argument on the internet the other day about card games and what makes a card game and not.
The inclusion of cards does not necessarily just mean card games.
That's what I feel.
And we were talking about Kantei Collection was the focal one where I was arguing it wasn't a card game.
Because what it is is all the characters are represented as cards.
And then you pick six cards to go out into combat and then it's automated combat from there.
And I said that's not a card game.
No, you need active control of your cards.
And the argument went wildly out of control.
But ultimately there are games like God of War that don't quite hit the character action stuff.
But they have a lot of the elements.
So it's the ideal fighting gaminess, card gaminess, character action-ness.
In a short thing I'd say character action is an action game based around your character being hyper mobile, hyper variable.
Hyper capable.
Hyper capable in their attacks.
And it's about varying up those attacks wildly and stylishly against hard enemies.
So like Devil May Cry, Bayo, God Hand.
That you're graded on in waves.
Emphasis is on the replay as opposed to the standard progression.
The purest example of the character action trope is the Devil May Cry style meter.
And then it's like no, don't just kill the enemy.
Kill the enemy, awesome and varied.
And then your style goes up and you're cool.
You can even get rid of that though and have something like Ninja Gaiden Black.
Where you still have stylish combat and it's fucking hard and you get the rankings.
You need the stylish combat because if you don't vary it up the enemies will just kill you.
Yeah, exactly.
Ninja Gaiden Black is so good.
All variants of Ninja Gaiden are excellent.
Barely Sigma 2's fucked up.
The Vita version has frame rate issues but otherwise it's fine.
I heard like people don't like the battle changes.
And Ninja Gaiden 3 original is trash.
Double X Monkey says I recently rewatched the 3rd strike trailer and it was fucking amazing.
Yeah it is.
Can you think of any trailers where you're immediately excited and would rewatch them?
The Devil May Cry 3 2004 trailer.
Exactly.
Exactly.
Fucking DMC3.
Onimusha.
Onimusha.
I want to say special shout to anything that has the crowd reaction in it as well.
I love the Devil May Cry 2 commercial.
The Japanese are breaking through the glass.
It's great.
But nothing fucking beats those Nintendo announcements where you get the crowd losing their shit at the same time.
I fucking love those.
For me unquestionably Super Smash Brothers Brawl.
Brawl?
Yeah that was roof exploding off the building.
Unquestionably.
That one.
Twilight Princess is a big fucking audience kaboom.
But I wouldn't rewatch that one over and over.
The Brawl Island.
I love that.
I love the reaction for Twilight.
I really like the initial.
Can't count the reactions man.
Gather up the trailer.
Sure.
The initial Metroid.
Every Metroid Prime 1 trailer was always awesome.
Even the ones that showed you nothing.
The ones that were just artwork and music those were awesome.
Another one for me and it's because I'm such a mark for this game.
I remember talking about it with Woolly and my expectations were literally dirt on the floor
and then the Freedom Wars trailer came out.
It's probably going to be a social community based whatever.
I think I watched that trailer every day until the game came out.
I adore that trailer.
I could easily answer this question if I just went to my old portable hard drive and look
up what I saved to my desktop.
So that's how you know.
You mentioned that in the lead up to SF4.
I was getting so crazed for SF4 that I went and downloaded.
Every trailer would come out and I would download every single SF4 trailer.
To the point where I had like an hour long fucking playlist on Windows Media and every
night before I went to bed for the three months before that game came out I watched the whole
fucking thing and would go to bed like with like a tear.
Oh my god this is going to be the greatest.
See my version of that was watch all the footage and just go play more Third Strike.
You got to get it out of you.
But absolutely no man.
There's good trailers that are timeless and like a lot of those old Capcom ones are fucking forever.
I don't think anything can ever beat the one that Matt said which is the fucking 2001 Metal Gear Solid 2
trailer in terms of just like fucking absurd.
I know but now when I hear the song and I just think of the lawsuit it just gets embarrassing.
And now you get to think about how Kojima is not a fucking good.
I still think that song is so good.
I still think like as like for best trailer which is totally different.
I still think the Metal Gear Solid 5 Phantom Pain Red Band trailer is like pretty good.
That's up there.
On another level.
Can't fight that one.
Can't fight that one.
The Red Band.
That's a good track.
You know.
Well as we told Zoe 2 is fucking Zoe 2 is good too.
Oh Zoe 2 is beyond the bounds intro V-roll trailer.
Can't fight that.
So good.
I love Kojima's like edited trailer.
I've said it before and you guys have disagreed with me.
But it's like I think he's better at making trailers than making games.
And that's not me saying his games are bad or anything less than amazing.
But I think he makes the best trailers in the industry.
He does.
Unquestionably.
Every Paul marketing in the world should be studying his trailers.
Now they've got a chance now that he'll.
And he should open a trailer school.
Oh my god.
Imagine Koji Productions 2 is just a company that just makes trailers.
Just makes trailers.
Oh.
That's the best outcome.
Yeah.
And then Rovio hires them to do Angry Birds trailers and you're like oh I gotta play Angry
Birds now.
Exactly.
What's up Matt.
Do you remember us talking in a video I think it was Dragon Ball Z where I was like what
is that word from sparking.
And you were like Dragon Ball Z sparking I think.
That's what I think.
No it was a fan corrected this and what we're thinking of is the last thing that said in
the Tekken 5 intro.
Oh Jesus.
Sparking.
You know that.
And then that led me to thinking I watched the Tekken 5 like CG trailer over and over
and over because I was so hyped for that Tekken more than any other at that time so.
Oh you see Jen got datamined at a Tekken 7.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Geez.
And like we kind of sandbagged it in the video but one of the funniest things.
No no not that but one of the funniest things.
I was laughing at sandbagging.
That like me and like Shmoop Godpat used to constantly laugh about was the last last thing
in the Zoey 2 trailer where it's like do you know how many of my people died back there.
Boom.
Oh dingo.
Like you're getting shot mid-sentence.
Yeah.
It's the funniest thing on the planet.
I can't get enough of that.
Fucking great.
And last question coming in from Eon Height which is interesting.
Alright.
Is it possible for you guys to have a round table moment where you give the other members
of the Zaibatsu one honest non-backhanded compliment.
Can you do that?
Oh that's tough.
Yeah I think so.
Can we do this?
Alright.
I think you've got a really excellent voice.
Oh thanks that's really nice.
Liam I think that you're young and will probably stay young looking all the way until I die.
Okay.
Alright.
I'm so jealous.
I'm gonna say to Woolly is like despite the lore Woolly you are incredibly honest.
Yeah.
Thank you.
I think Liam your knowledge of minute game industry things blows me away with just how
much media you consume and know about really really well.
I think Matt and both and you Pat as well you guys have unbelievably fast wit and are
so incredibly able to just pick up on something and run with it and I feel like in videos
like it's nuts how quick you guys can just jump to the funniest fucking solution whereas
I gotta like workshop it like three sentences in advance.
Well mine is a variation of that for Matt in that it's kind of that but I love how
he will go to the thing that people care the least about somehow.
You remember more about shit that people don't care about than I know about anything.
Okay.
I guess yeah I guess I'll backhand it at all.
I think that's just a fact and not a compliment though.
And Woolly I appreciate the...
Wow!
Wow!
Wow!
Fuck you!
Oh my god!
I appreciate your unrivaled ability to take my shit for the longest amount of time.
That's the greatest skill of all.
You are unrivaled of anyone I know I have given you by far the most amount of shit for
the longest time and you have not killed me.
That's some 13 odd years or so at this point.
No that's...
Is that too many?
The compliment is not that you are good at math is that it's way off.
It's 10 years man it's 10 years.
Yeah!
It's 10 years.
College.
Yeah.
Late 2004 it is now 2015 it has been 10 years.
But was it first year of college?
No.
No.
Okay.
Then yeah then alright.
No.
Because people that I met first year of college is right around.
Your ability to take each shit and just keep going is awesome because most people would
have killed Matt and I by this time because we're assholes.
You're saying weird but you really mean...
I really mean myself.
We can't get through this round table.
I think Woolly you make a fantastic boss and I think you're really good at organizational
skills and stuff and like you were really fun to work with when you were my boss you
remember?
Okay.
You were always on top of stuff in that regard and you were really good at it and I was always
impressed by how you could stay on top of all like the absurd shit we had to work with.
Okay.
I for a second I thought you meant like game boss like a thing to fight against.
No.
But yes thank you.
Okay.
We did it.
I think we did it.
I didn't say anything for Pat or Liam specifically.
I didn't say anything for Matt.
I wasn't saying anything for you.
I wasn't saying anything.
That's cool.
Pat is incredibly passionate.
Oh.
Period.
And Liam is incredibly generous.
Thank you.
I appreciate it.
Oh.
That was really hard.
I don't want to do that again.
Well you did it.
Well because I did it though.
I'm not done though.
You only have to do it the one time.
I still have to say one for Matt.
Exactly.
Oh it's true.
Because I was in fact I was also going to say you're incredibly generous and I'm not
going to talk about it specifically but like there's been multiple instances where
you've helped me out a lot in specific moments.
You're welcome.
Making even better Boss than Woolly.
Oh.
There you go.
I hate this.
I would be a bad QA Boss though.
I absolutely hate this.
Like I could not do Woolly's job in QA.
Giving people compliments is the worst.
Well we get to kind of do what we want when we do this thing.
Yeah.
And it's not like with a big corporate structure over that thing.
Yeah.
So way less fun.
Until we sell you guys.
Way less fun.
To the company.
Yay.
All right.
Matt's coming up on the why.
You are.
You guys are cunts.
Okay.
Just got to wash it off.
Oh.
Tomorrow's recording session is going to be mean.
Just super mean.
All right.
Well let's start with this.
What are we recording tomorrow?
We're recording Bloodborne.
We're doing Bloodborne.
That's right.
Sick.
Here it is.
We and I are going to do Bloodborne because we're idiots.
Yep.
I told Plague what we were going to do and he was like you guys are dumb.
You're crazy.
All right.
So we're doing Bloodborne.
It's not a normal LP.
No.
That's all we're going to say for now.
There's a gimmick.
There's a twist.
It's not a crazy gimmick.
It's a minor.
It's a minor.
It's a really.
Yeah.
Don't.
And should we say when that's going up?
It's pretty much.
We scheduled it.
Yeah.
Well yeah.
It'll be going up Monday.
Not.
Not.
As soon as Mecca Week is done.
Not yesterday.
Yeah.
But.
After.
Monday the 30 whatever.
As soon as Mecca Week is done.
It'll be going up at three o'clock and it'll be every weekday.
And it's always done.
That's.
Otherwise.
Yeah.
It's still Mecca Week.
I'm just going to out and say it.
Me and Pat did a quick look of Final Fantasy 15 episode Dusk Guy.
We just played it for about an hour and that'll go up after Mecca Week.
Yeah.
A lot of people are asking if we're going to do that because of Mecca Week.
It's not going up right now.
We did do it.
Yeah.
We accidentally made too many videos.
Yeah.
And other people are asking, so I just want to say this one too, we're going to check
out Life is Strange Episode 2 as soon as we can, but Matt's still in Florida.
Of course.
Yeah, but it comes out when I get back, I come back tomorrow, like tomorrow at midnight
or whatever.
Yeah.
So we're going to try to get on that.
I don't know when it's going to fit in the schedule.
It'll have to be next week or forward.
Exactly.
Yeah.
But just we've been having people asking about Life is Strange for like a few weeks now
and it's like.
It's not out yet.
It's not out yet.
Yeah.
Right?
Well, you know what?
We keep trying, but it's never going to work.
Every time it's an episodic game, even if it's in the video first and last thing, people
are still going to wonder why have revelations yet.
Yeah.
So speaking of revelations, like there's going to be a break between the episode 2 and 3
because of the Mecca Week scheduling.
And yeah, we are going to do all of them.
It's just been nudged slightly.
So hate.
Yeah.
Oh man, woolly damn, we're going to be doing fucking day one.
Like we had all that forward time with Dark Souls 2 before people even knew we were doing
it to get way out in front so that people couldn't find us.
But now.
But now people know we're going to be starting it tomorrow.
The two, like the ability to track and murder us will be dramatically improved.
That will make it significantly better.
Well, I hope your, your friend list is pretty exclusive.
Well, the worst, of course it is, but that friends list has nothing to do with it.
No, but I mean, a lot of people just be online anyway.
Yeah, but no, if we, if it gets too bad, just pull the cable.
I don't think we're going to need to do that.
We need to get the beatable bosses.
But you know, but now that you're giving people ideas, you know.
Well, you know, we'll have to schedule a rematch of Plague and his even worse internet
than it was before.
Yeah.
Now that the stakes are higher.
I just want to say this, by the way, I forgot and what I did this week, finished Resident
Revelations 2.
Ending is fucking superb.
Which ending is that, Lee?
The good ending is fucking superb.
Can you, can you, can you like recreate a scene that happened at my house earlier this
week?
Okay.
So I was at your place and I saw on my phone this thread went up on NeoGaff warning everyone,
hey, there's a bad ending in the game.
To get the bad ending, you have to do this thing.
And I looked at Pat and I said, man, what kind of idiot would ever do that?
And you were, it was loud and strong was what kind of fucking idiot would do that and get
the bad ending.
And I go, well, that did that.
No, I didn't do that.
Claire needs to not do something.
No.
You missed right in again.
No, that's what I read.
It says one person is supposed to do something, the other person is supposed to not do something.
No, no, no, it's not that you're not supposed to do anything.
The thing with Claire only triggers after you failed with Moira.
Yeah.
But I'm trying to do the thing and then it just went to Claire.
No, it's because you failed.
It's because they all failed.
Failed pounding a button.
No, you're just supposed to move, you hold the stick forward.
That's all you're supposed to do.
And as I was about to hold it, you failed.
You have so much time to do it.
It's on video.
You'll see.
Yeah, you'll see that how Claire's animation just takes over in three seconds.
No, it's like 10 seconds, Matt.
It's not.
We just built up all these carbon points and now we're killing it.
We're squandering it.
Anyway, we'll fix that.
Yeah.
We will fix that.
Yeah.
Hey, that's good because you'll get the bad ending and the good ending and that will
ultimately be better.
Yeah, that's right.
Apparently the bad ending...
We all had a similar situation in Guacamelee.
The bad ending is really dark.
And yeah, we ran into that in Guacamelee as well.
We ran it back, man.
You fix it.
Oh, good times.
Ugh.
The good ending is amazing.
You'll fuck it.
It'll blow your mind.
Some other dialogue.
Looking forward to it.
Okay.
So as we close out here, where does this stack on the entire franchise list?
Best one since four.
So...
Yeah.
Unquestionably.
So where I am so far?
Best one since four.
Damn.
No question.
Damn.
This one, like since four of the contemporary ones, it would be like this one, then revelations,
then five, then six.
It succeeds at everything RE5 wanted to do.
Why is...
Why am I not hearing this outside of you guys?
I don't know.
Because you're not paying attention.
You don't research this.
I don't know.
No, but just even on the grapevine from, like, you know what I mean?
You're not plugged into the RE cabal, man.
Definitely not as much.
That's certain.
I mean, it didn't have a huge marketing campaign.
Hmm.
You know, it was kind of a smaller release in that regard.
I guess, yeah, I guess what I'm thinking of is, is it financially successful in addition
to being the best entry?
Probably.
It's only $25.
You know, that's what I'm wondering, because if it was selling like crazy, you'd be reading
about that.
Yeah, exactly.
No, it certainly hasn't taken off in a like crazy way or anything, but it's fucking good.
That's fucking sick, man.
Yeah.
All right.
We'll see you back in the cold, cold embrace of Canadian, Matt.
Yeah, I guess so.
Thanks for having me, Florida, and thanks for not killing me so far.
Hey, don't, hey, your plane doesn't leave for another eight hours or so.
That's why I said so far.
Okay.
Enjoy, enjoy the Montreal weather, Kaiser Wave, when you step off the plane.
Oh, yeah.
It's gonna be weird, because I'm gonna be wearing shorts going into the plane.
Yeah.
Change on the plane, man.
Like Montreal is holding the wave back, Kaiser, when you're just charging it up.
When the door opens, it's like a Dempsey roll in your face.
Oh, geez.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I love you so much, man, you know that, right?
I love you so much, man, you know that, right?
I love you so much, man.
I love you so much, man.
I love you so much, man, you know that, right?
I love you so much, man.
I love you so much, man.