Castle Super Beast - SBFC 111: Crowdfund the Fourth Reich

Episode Date: September 22, 2015

In which we wrap up TGS, and discuss the future of Kickstarter....

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Today's episode is brought to you by Squarespace. Squarespace is the easiest way to create a beautiful website, vlog, or online store for you and your ideas. Squarespace features an elegant interface, beautiful templates, and an incredible 24-7 customer support. Try Squarespace at Squarespace.com and enter the offer code SUPER at checkout to get 10% off. Squarespace. Build It Beautiful. A lot of ways to start this podcast. Yeah, our federal elections are coming quite close. But I think we might want to start with the refugee crisis in the Europe and Middle East.
Starting point is 00:00:52 No, vote early and often. Wait, what? What? You mean in all of your local elections? Yes, exactly. Vote early and vote often. I like what Eurogamer had to say about the migrant crisis. Are you serious?
Starting point is 00:01:05 Yeah. They even said something. Digital Foundry did a test on it. Oh, yeah. You saw that wave bar go up and down on that frame count on the immigrant crisis. What's up? We're getting on Metacritic these days. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:01:21 Can you go long with zero? You know, Moll Clare can't tell the difference between 30 and 60 frames per second. When he's asked about it, he just does that awkward smile of his. My administration will have the feel of 60 frames per second. I don't think... When will those Darth Maul themed liberal posters truly bring this? I don't know. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:01:42 I think that the blocks projected loss of seats might have something to do with their all-dreamcast, all-time platform. Yeah, basically. That is fucking hard to work. It's a thinly veiled, racist ad. Very thinly. I'm not too happy about the Trump DLC. The Trump DLC?
Starting point is 00:02:09 What's wrong? No, but this one is just paving the way for Kanye. Because they showed up. He's just paving the way. They showed up that DLC where you could pull his face. Like in Super Mario 64. But that's not in the DLC. But that's just a feature of real Trump.
Starting point is 00:02:23 The DLC will have tons of different hairstyles that you can put on it. They're not fake. None of them are fake. None of them are fake. All of them based on Bird's Nest. It's like the original. Yeah, that's right. Welcome to episode 111 of the podcast.
Starting point is 00:02:37 One more. One more and we're there. We're almost there. To the magical number. Wait, what's the magical number of 112? 112, baby. What is this numbers in your pocket? I remember when you used to throw those things.
Starting point is 00:02:49 You weren't here for last week. Boy was I not. You weren't here for black people cruning for your heart. Black people cruning for your heart. There's only one black people in this room. You weren't here for peaches and cream. Okay, well then. Don't worry about it.
Starting point is 00:03:01 Did we only like black you guys up when the instant I wasn't here to keep it all crackery? Uh, esoteric numeric facts. Yeah, what happened in what's 112? Are you implying that I'm like exuding a honky field? I'm saying, I'm saying that our fact of the week is that 112 was pronounced 11-t-1 by J.R.R. Token. What?
Starting point is 00:03:28 Actually? And that was something that he invented. I guess he's not that smart because he used it in his books. That's fucked. 11-t-1. That's weird. That's how Hobbit would say it. Would you go 11-t-2 after that?
Starting point is 00:03:39 In theory. They walked for 11-t-1 days. That's fucked because that doesn't work after that. If you don't go 12-t-1. This reminds me of that goddamn quiet library fucking skit with Hashimoto and Hamada, those fucking guys. You're going to file a library downtown? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:03:58 Batsu games. They have to be in your library. And silly shit happens in a library trying to laugh. Just to me, it just reminds me of how French doesn't make fucking sense and how we have to say shit like 60-12, 60-13, and 80-15 to say 95. Yeah. Why can't you just say, I have a secret for you. What's that?
Starting point is 00:04:24 If you break down anything at a certain level, it becomes nonsense. The word 19 makes no sense because it should be 10-9. 10-9. You're right. You're right. It's from nonsensical linguistic semantics. And there's a goddamn linguist student out there that is freaking their shit out right now.
Starting point is 00:04:44 I just want to know if there's a good reason why 70 and 90 don't exist in French. No. Well, they do. They do. Well, they do, but they don't have their own identity. It's like the word pineapple. That's fucked because in every other language, it's a variant of N-N-O. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:05:00 Every other language. Or like W is not really its own identity. It's just the W. Especially since it's colloquial and commonly written for like hundreds of years as double V, which is more accurate because French calls it double V. Yeah. Exactly. And why is not really its own thing?
Starting point is 00:05:16 I feel like if we... It's just Y-GREC. I feel like if we had like a third language speaker in here, we could get really confusing. I remember Bowser and Blue had a joke where they go, by the time you've said Milton their son can't do the Van Cantals, it's motherfucking 1995 already. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:05:35 There you go. You want to get really crazy? Let's fucking make fun of the Americans or how they write the date in the wrong order. Oh, Jesus. Why would you... Why would you build a pyramid with the tip in the middle? Why the fuck would you put the month first? The problem with me is that when I write dates to like many American people that I have to
Starting point is 00:05:52 write it to, they're like... They're like what? They're like... You're like, why are you backwards? I don't know. I don't... And the answer is because as always, they've been doing it too long to change it. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:06:03 I've been doing it too long. That's why the metric never took off. We have our own things where I'm like, that's stupid. Center is not spelt like this. Santa? No, that's stupid. That's how it's spelt in Canadian English. It's bad.
Starting point is 00:06:16 I don't understand. Put your use. Yeah. Yeah. Or color, flavor, label. But that's an English thing. Well see, the thing about that, if they put the Canadian or British accent, you actually kind of hear that U.
Starting point is 00:06:27 Yeah, yeah, yeah. Come on. And it's like when you say armor, it's like, well okay, I don't really hear the U in there. No, exactly. It's just A, R, and the plaster VR. I can't hear the U through the cowboy hat. Do you end words with zation or station? Depends on the word.
Starting point is 00:06:41 Imagine if JR had to go... Don't analyze my pronunciation. It's terrible. If JR had to go, we're live here at the bell's thump and his face would explode and you'd be trying to pronounce that. We said it the same way. It's just spelt slightly different. Yeah, exactly.
Starting point is 00:06:54 Imagine if they're like, no, you have to say it like this. And he's just like... I can't... It reminds me of that old-ass fucking... Oh god, what was it? It was an ad for some Canadian phone company being pitched to Americans. And it was like a Texan guy calling Montreal for fucking tech support. And he just goes, uh, this super thick tent, uh, bonjour Montreal, and then the nice lady
Starting point is 00:07:14 at the end has a very, like, 10% French accent, like, hey, how can I help you? And he goes like... Oh! And the whole ad was like, don't be afraid to call Canada. Right. We're not that scared. It's a problem we need to fix. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:07:28 You know, I just think Tolkien knows what he's doing when it comes to the sounds of the words. 11-1. Fuck. Well, he invented enough of them. Yeah. That's true. And like, he fucking...
Starting point is 00:07:38 He didn't have porn. He had words. Okay, that got a little odd. He... No, no, he was totally right. He was all about the sounds and syllables of things. Did you, uh... Did you ever read about Tolkien?
Starting point is 00:07:47 Yeah. Create an elvish language. I read about Tolkien's, like, 20-year-long fight with his editors in getting Lord of the Rings at the door, in that he was inventing new words all the time, but his piece of shit editor wouldn't listen to him and would re-correct, like, 10,000 words. So the one that drove him double crazy is that in all the original, like, runs of Lord of the Rings, he changed the word elven to elfin, which is the actual correct English word prior to Tolkien, and Tolkien would just lose his shit, like, no!
Starting point is 00:08:22 I'm spelling it different, on purpose! Yeah, yeah. You fucked! I'm trying to pave the way for elfin line over here! Can you imagine getting your draft back of something of the scale of Lord of the Rings and the word, like, elven is spelled wrong and every fucking verse, like, and you just can't get hard with that F in the way. No.
Starting point is 00:08:45 Gotta get the F out. Yeah, it's really a very similar thing as when my parents would help me correct my homework or a teacher, and I'd make one mistake once, but it's in a written format, so then- And you'd be like, don't correct me! They could- no, they correct me once on the first time they see that error, but then they get increasingly mad when they see the same error, but I'm like, that's gonna happen! Obviously. Because I wrote it all that night, you idiot!
Starting point is 00:09:08 I didn't learn it half way, exactly. You can't get more mad at me! Shut up! Exactly. You know, I totally know what you mean, like, how could you possibly learn it? It's like the teacher- the teacher writes in the notes, I can't believe you kept making this mistake. This mistake after I told you!
Starting point is 00:09:22 Were you getting dumber over time? Morty McFly? Yeah. How am I supposed to correct this? Crazy. I'm glad I never had to correct a test. Shit's hard. Kids are probably stupid.
Starting point is 00:09:33 It's not. It's fine. You just put a bunch of X's where you think they go. Yeah. Yeah, well, I had to correct- If you like the kids, you put like that. Put a barfing face sticker on it and call it a day. I had to correct QA tests because I was doing training for that stuff and it was, yeah,
Starting point is 00:09:48 not a fun time. Okay, what if they missed a question and then all of their little shaded answers were one off and they got to the end and they're like, oh no, did you give them a break? Or were you like, fuck you, you have to learn how to do your CTBS testing? That would never happen. Yeah. And if it does, it's totally your fault. I did that.
Starting point is 00:10:06 You have to recheck your answers. Like, at some point- Check your answers. At some point in high school, I had one of those fucking exams that you- Yeah, were you feeling all those scores? Yeah. Get to the end of like a 200 question exam. It's like, there's a question left, but I'm at the end.
Starting point is 00:10:18 Oh, God, no. Willie, did you- I had to do the whole test over. Did you ever get in QA? Did you ever get in QA? You just didn't fill it out properly? I missed a question. He missed a question.
Starting point is 00:10:26 I missed one question and then just kept going. And then 200 questions were over. And so that question had been missed around questions like 30. I got to do the whole exam. Oh, God. Did you ever get an end of the day report because I got some that were sent to me every day and I had to like, you know, look them over as I'm sure you had to. And what did you do today?
Starting point is 00:10:44 Nothing. Yeah. Like what bugs were found? Zero. Yeah. And I'm just like, yep, yep, yep. Good job. This is your EOD.
Starting point is 00:10:53 And this is the same guy that broke my 20th anniversary optimist. Right. And he was like, hey, cool. What's that? Whoops. Yeah. And knocks it over and I got him fired. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:11:05 Fuck that. No. Because he slept on his desk every day. That's easy. That's easy. But usually when people see that they're under me and they slept, I would give them like a million chances. I'll go, ah, or like hit my desk to wake them up and I'm like, okay, as long as you don't
Starting point is 00:11:21 do it seven more times. You should have poured water on their head. You know what? It gets themselves. I just dropped this scalding water. It's always a good time that when you get the email that says EOD, you click it and you just see a signature because there's no content to the mail. It's just the bottom of the message.
Starting point is 00:11:37 Why did you even bother sending this? So I guess I had a week. Did you? Yeah. You lived seven days. Within those seven days, I read Saga 5 because that shit dropped and God fucking damn is that a good ass book. I haven't read it yet, but remember Saga volume four was like eh, kind of halfway through
Starting point is 00:12:00 and then it totally like, oh, yeah. Or is this one like consistently good? No, I think this is consistently good. But the thing with Saga is that it comes out so far apart from each other, you have to fucking trip backtracks, right? And there's no, and exactly, they don't do that, you know, so it's like you have to remember and if you do, it's right on. I think it's better than four, worse than one, two, and three, but still in the tier of great.
Starting point is 00:12:25 Because four was like fine. Four was the weakest one. It was good. So do these only releases volumes? No. You guys just wait. I need it. I need that big blast.
Starting point is 00:12:37 I need enough. Yeah. No, I don't need a big enough blast that I'm going to wait for the hardcover volume. But I need this size. Yeah, I guess. And now that it's out, it's like another, I don't know, eight months. Eight months. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:12:50 Just finish it now. Every trade has had one page that's like the page. Yeah. And the one for this one is like one of my favorites. Okay. How old is the author? Okay. He's a young guy.
Starting point is 00:13:04 Okay. Because I'm at a point where before I start caring about anything like I'm going to check. It's a comic book. It's a comic book. It's not fucking. Okay. It's not George R. R. I'm calling it.
Starting point is 00:13:16 I'll take, I'll take, I'll take like monetary bets on like what books are out before R. R. Just dies. Anyway, sag is a really good time and we can't push it. Apologies if he died in between the time I said that. And this podcast went up. Sorry about killing J. R. R. Mark timing. I really hope Telltale never makes a game based on it.
Starting point is 00:13:39 The other thing I... What if they do it's got to be what's his face, the fucking seal. Yeah, it's got to be him. It's got to be the little seal man. Goose the seal. Oh yes. Yes. Yes.
Starting point is 00:13:51 It has to be all from his perspective. Yeah. What a great story. Not... It's great. Dude, you love him. What's not a great story? It's what I read immediately afterwards.
Starting point is 00:13:59 Because I had the same thing. Which is unfair. Oh, yeah. Unfair to this thing. Yeah. But it's called Burn the Orphanage. Okay, do you have it right there? Show Pat the back.
Starting point is 00:14:08 Show... Okay, Pat, you're looking at this. What does this look like? This comic book cover to describe it. Looks like Final Fight, the like Street's Range kind of cool thing. Okay, do you want to read the back synopsis and really get a good idea of what it's about? I would like to... I would like to...
Starting point is 00:14:23 Okay, it's meat, cheese, food, hand grenade, cash, saw, gold, knuckle, swords, knives, etc. Other stuff, barrels, bombs, pillow? Bar code. Bar code. And then there's a suit kick tour of the world. And Haggar slam. Yeah. It is a straight up beat-a-muck comic.
Starting point is 00:14:34 Would you assume this would be the thing that we would love the most in the world? Liam for sure. You for sure. Woolly almost for sure. So... Can I borrow that speaking of which? Yeah, you can. You can take mine too.
Starting point is 00:14:52 Yeah. Wow, wow, wow, wow, wow. So, video game references in there on point, doing the whole thing. Someone literally goes, but I flash kicked his head off. Those are words. Oh yeah. Right? And you have your axle type dude.
Starting point is 00:15:07 Yeah. You have the big buff buddy. There you go. And then you've got your blaze fielding. Yeah. Fucking nothing. Nothing. Fucking reference.
Starting point is 00:15:15 The first 10 pages is fine. And then the page after that is fine. Then after that is like, what are you doing with this idea? You're telling me that like it starts totally like on message. We are a beat em up. We are a beat em up. And then it throws a huge wrench in that formula like 10 pages in. It's not 10 pages in.
Starting point is 00:15:32 It's halfway through the story. I don't want to hear that it's actually a bunch of kids in there. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. It's nothing like that. It's just like the story continues. And it changes things up and you go, oh okay, I see what you're doing here. But none of it is like particularly good. Right.
Starting point is 00:15:50 It's written poor and the lines and the words they're saying. Would you say it's written poor? Poor. Oh, that's bad. That's bad. Poor. This is a poor trade paper bag. And it fucking sucks because this material.
Starting point is 00:16:01 Art is also good. Well, the idea is so fucking gold and it's so much of what we want. But it just was executed not flawless. You're reading something and you're like, dude, I'm totally with you. You like the same things I liked. This is not what I would do. And based on what you're saying, I feel like the name of the volume is an app. So in addition to being mediocre or not great, it gets an extra thing against it because you like the subject matter so much.
Starting point is 00:16:29 I would rather not like it. Did you salt the earth on this concept for a year for someone else? You know what? It's almost a little bit of that JoJo's Bizarre Adventure All-Star Battle thing where it's like you're too close. You're a little bit too close. But the difference is like this is not good. I would rather have a cursory knowledge of beat em ups and not like super intimate because I actually think I wouldn't mind it as much. Because then it stops doing like kind of fun references.
Starting point is 00:16:58 And the only thing that kind of makes you go, okay, is that the last page kind of sets up what looks like it could be more video game adventures. And I before I finished the first volume, I bought the second volume online just to like, all right. Just to be ready. Just to be ready and to give it like a second chance and I hope it does it. Words ruin this and if it was silent, it would have been better. That would be hard. Universally, like from start to finish. But I'm saying that's how not good what's written in there is.
Starting point is 00:17:29 If it was silent, it would have been better. I wonder if a David Cage game could have that same thing applied to it. So remove all dialogue. But then how does one infer a Chinese underwater ghost base? You would have a really cool explanation, I bet, by the end of it. I bet you know that it made a much better story as to why this fridge is attacking you. I don't know what it's going to be. There's going to be a lot of dream catchers. The fridge is probably saying something really deep.
Starting point is 00:17:56 Zombie sex is not actually zombie sex. No, it's just really cold. Yeah, so that wasn't as great. So you knocked one of the things out did awful. Yeah, that's there. I also did not like it much like the same to you. Popped back in, true detective, finally got to the fucking meat. Season one or two.
Starting point is 00:18:14 Okay, which is when like the case salt, it gets quote-unquote salt. So that's around the two or three episodes from the end then? No, no, no. What episode number? Five. Okay. Because it's ten episodes. Yeah, so I'm in the middle of it.
Starting point is 00:18:33 But like, it's the first whole moment happens. Well, no, the first whole moment is like that shot from the third episode. Yeah, yeah, yeah. The fucking, yeah, that was scary. So I remember, I did the show never has anything better than that. I did some reading about that shot afterwards, which is the gunfight in the suburbs. And like, people were arguing when that came out.
Starting point is 00:18:57 It's like, is that a real one take or not? Because there's some suspicious pans, right? Way up to the sky to see a helicopter, stuff like that, where there could totally be a cut. And Fuku Naga, is that his name? You carry Fuku Naga or something like that. He said, no, those are the points that we put into the sequence so that if we fucked it up, we could do multiple shots. We could salvage it.
Starting point is 00:19:17 But we actually totally nailed it in the first go. And that's why near the end, when he hits, when he pistol whips the guys, it looks like shit because he's exhausted. Well, fuck, man. The single shot moments are my favorite things. I talked about children of men all the time. Yeah, I feel like True Detective Season 1 is so good that you don't even realize how good it was, because you go back and just pause it and just skim to random scenes,
Starting point is 00:19:44 and you're likely going to see this amazing cinematography shot that you weren't even paying attention to, because the acting was so good. Absolutely. Like that scene in the club where he knocks the guy in his ass and he's pointing the gun at him, and it's like framed with stained glass in a fucking nightclub. Dude, two guys standing next to a shitty car with a city in the background and nothing but sky has never looked that beautiful. It's amazing.
Starting point is 00:20:08 Sadly, though, it seems like the success of the first season is a very isolated incident, because as soon as the second season finished, I saw several, several articles in every site. That's many. What went wrong. And what went wrong is that the director wasn't there. That's what went wrong. And it's like cast those season 2's incredible. So instead, when you finish True Detective, immediately start getting hype for Beasts of No Nation,
Starting point is 00:20:36 which have you heard of this? That's his next project? That's his next project with Idris Elba being like a psychotic African warlord, child soldier, big boss man. Yeah, I heard of this. You could have said fucking clown at Childsburg. There was recently an article where it's like they went out to, I forget the name of the country, but it's maybe Zaire. Wakanda.
Starting point is 00:20:57 Maybe. They went out there and they're like, no, we're going to get real people to do this. Idris, he's going to make it, but our main child actor character, we're going to grab him out of one of these villages, right? It's like, how old is he? We don't know. Every time we asked him how old he was, he would change his age to whatever we wanted to hear from the scene. That's it.
Starting point is 00:21:17 That's it, man. And like, Fukunaga got like a fucking malaria and all sorts of horrible shit. You got to fucking wire it up by getting the streets on camera. And then go, oh yeah, no, wait, what? We didn't mean for that to happen. To the people that have watched the wire but never actually looked into the wire, like a bunch of people on screen in those early seasons are dead. Our real dead people.
Starting point is 00:21:39 Snoop is in jail for real? Yeah, yeah. No, like, wow, you guys got some really good actors for this show. Yeah. Actors. It's just like, no one wants to be millionaire in India. Some dog millionaire. Some dog millionaire.
Starting point is 00:21:55 All those kids were like super real slum kids. Like, wow, they're really good at being poor and miserable. So they're like, well, hey, how about that? Lifetime experience. So speaking about African slums. Yeah. Fucking... My favorite location to shoot people in.
Starting point is 00:22:09 Yo, I crossed that finish line. Phantom Pain, I beat it. You beat it? Yes. You beat it? We're going to have a spoiler cast. Yeah, we're not going to have it now. But all I will say for now, again, spoiler free, is that I think people that are shitting
Starting point is 00:22:23 on the ending are over-exaggerating. Gameplay-wise or story-wise? Story-wise. Story-wise. Gameplay-wise. What are you going to say? Gameplay-wise. What are you shitting on the whole game?
Starting point is 00:22:32 Gameplay-wise. Go away. Just start walking over there. You're in the wrong medium. No. But story-wise, I bet, anyone who's shitting on the ending story-wise, I think they're over-exaggerating. I think the ending is a good ending with one element of it that's like, oh, that sucks. And I also think the cut content hurt it, because you can go back and watch what got cut, and
Starting point is 00:22:52 that makes it better. But what's there is fine, and I think it's still, you know. But do you understand when you say the ending to this Metal Gear is fine? Yeah, I know. It's terrible. It's terrible. By comparison, but do you want the stack right now? Well, the best is no longer yet to come.
Starting point is 00:23:10 Because for me, right now, the stack is the top three remain, but it goes fourth. Yeah, okay. So it's what? It's like three, two, one... No. Sorry, three, two, four. It's three, four, two, five? I think we're all different on this.
Starting point is 00:23:28 Wally, it's like three, one, ghost, babel, five. You're close. Three, one, four. Three, one, four, five. Three, one, four, five. Three, one, four, five. I say three, one, four, five, two. I can live with that.
Starting point is 00:23:39 I put two instead of one in there, honestly. I go, I really like that weird ass shit. I do. I really like one. Like, so much. Why? Because you enjoy all the killing, do you? No, one's amazing.
Starting point is 00:23:52 Yeah, one's great. No, I go like two, one, three, four. Okay. Like, I like the environments that are in buildings better than the exterior. No, but we're talking about like the very end, like the final shenanigans. But ultimately... Oh, sure, two then. Ultimately.
Starting point is 00:24:07 Yeah, yeah. But ultimately, my point is that it falls within and not outside of below. Right, right. It's not underneath poops. It's not like the acid endings where like acid's super non-canon and you get to the endings and you're like, what? What has happened? And like you said, and poops, you know?
Starting point is 00:24:24 The acid endings are great. It falls within and it's good. Yeah, three, one, four, two as well. Don't fall within the poops. So then you might fall in the same way I do when you get three, one, four, five, two, you know? Yeah, that depends. We'll see.
Starting point is 00:24:38 Because I know some things have been at the ending, but I don't know like the final twist, for example. Because some of this spurts was Super Bunny Off put out a video, very, very spoiler heavy video. Do not watch that. I watched a bit of it and I was like, okay, wait, no. And I was just like, I'm just putting around like the time bar to like where I think. Just don't, just don't do it.
Starting point is 00:24:57 But I wanted to know. The boss is removing his face and Tom Cruise is up there. Oh, that'd be so much better than Keeper's other... But no, it, yeah, that's it. And I think, and I got the, because there's just bad endings, not bad ending, but there's fake endings if you don't do everything. Yeah, you have to go back. You got to get that true end.
Starting point is 00:25:16 We'll get you to play your side ops. I got to ask, since you're the only person in the room to have beaten it, and me and Liam are doing the LP and Matt, you're playing it by yourself as you would. There's something that keeps happening as we play the LP and it's weird and it's Keeper's performance. Did you turn around on it? Yeah. Here's my weird point on it.
Starting point is 00:25:37 Keeper's fine. Like he's totally fine. He's great. And I can, I can, I can see it. And like, yeah, he's doing a good job. The problem is, is that he's talking infrequently enough that I have time to forget that that's the voice that's going to come out of his mouth. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:25:54 And every time they turn to him and like he's going to speak, I expect Hater or Doyle to speak. Okay. I don't get that because I, I don't know. Keeper solotypes. The sessions I played in were like half day sessions. Yeah. So I never got that feeling.
Starting point is 00:26:09 But I think he's great in it. I've turned around on it. Like I said, the negativity I have is all just missing my old buddy, David. But none of it is like, fuck that new guy. Yeah. No, I'm not a fuck that new guy, but I think it's a mistake to have him talk so little. And I feel less, way less than every other voiced metal gear. He should be more of a conversation haver.
Starting point is 00:26:31 But at the same time, like Doyle. It's not like conversations that go on is the issue, right? Yeah. It's more just listening to the sets. Like when you think about the cutscenes in metal gear, it's all like, it's all Snake responding to people. You know what I mean? What?
Starting point is 00:26:43 And that, exactly. And that just doesn't really exist so much. The thing you said with a question mark. Yeah, exactly. Right. Go down to the grove. Got it. She had a cute butt.
Starting point is 00:26:54 And I can't, and I can't say that like the other thing that's nice that I was worried about is that like, if this had to be the last one, it could be. You know? Okay. Well, it seems like it will go to that in a minute. Doyle, like I don't feel as much like allegiance there. Yeah. He's only there for like one scene.
Starting point is 00:27:15 Yeah, I love Richard Doyle. He was great. But you know what? He's the fury. It's true. But the point is that, you know what I mean? You don't feel like that like, oh fuck David, man. You know, you don't have that there.
Starting point is 00:27:27 He just, he came in, knocked it out of the park, but it was the one and done. You know? And, and quite frankly, like keepers got more words than Doyle does at this point. Well, yeah. You know? I'm not usually in ground zero. More words. Because Doyle talks for a while.
Starting point is 00:27:43 And keepers words probably make slightly more sense. Yeah. Yes. This is good, isn't it? Yes. There was that point in that discussion where it's like everything's rock solid, everything's great. He loops on himself with the zero metaphor.
Starting point is 00:27:57 And then you're like, mmm. I went back. Mmm. So the first thing I did. You see nuts. The first thing I did was go and rewatch the timelines that scrolled way too fast. But then after that, I went and rewatched the Guns of the Patriots ending to recapture that context.
Starting point is 00:28:16 And it's funny because some shit is like, ooh, no, no, no. That doesn't work anymore. That doesn't work. But it's interesting to think about this guy knowing what he knows, and it's like you're talking from a point of view where it's too centered around Solid Snake at the time. And like, obviously he couldn't have known the things he knows now, but it does amplify it and make it better. Anyway, that being said, we got him a bun.
Starting point is 00:28:40 So it was a good game? Yeah, it was good. Mario Maker played that a little bit. Was that game good? Ah, I got it. Play any good stages? Not yet. Play any bad stages?
Starting point is 00:28:48 Yeah. Did you see what I mean by the Nintendo created stages being super short? Yeah. Yeah, they're tiny, aren't they? Yeah, that's it. So are you saying it has the same problem that every game that has ever had user-created content has and that most people are terrible at everything? I'm sure those good stages that I'm going to find if I keep looking eventually, but I
Starting point is 00:29:04 haven't found any yet. Just go into it and look at any of our friends. I guess so. Because literally all of them are making money, like play garage levels in Austin's life. I agree with what you're saying, but it does suck when you're like, I want to play content. I have to go on the internet to find two minutes of content at a time. Sure, I did.
Starting point is 00:29:22 Because the context of how I played it was with the girlfriend wanted to kill some time, loaded it up and just said, we just said, let's just explore and have some fun. No, no, I can't do homework. I didn't go do homework. I didn't do homework on it, you know? I'm doing fucking homework on your homework. Yeah, I tried not to and then that's the experience I got. I don't know if any of you guys ever gotten to like any part of your life where it's like
Starting point is 00:29:39 you're playing a game that had maps and you're like, oh, I'm going to try out these new maps that I found. Oh God. Did you get Mario Maker? You guys got it. I did. You guys got it. I don't give a shit about creating anything.
Starting point is 00:29:52 I hate 2D games. Yeah, okay. I hate them. It's true. I hate 2D games. But like at least, you know, at least a little big planet ship for the campaign. You know what I mean? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:30:01 You see, like that's like that would have made Mario Maker like nine on 10, 10 on 10 games. Because you would have had a single player awesome fun campaign, but then also this extra step. Exactly. Exactly. No, no, it's they want you to make all the game for them. That's a bummer. I almost feel like it's a beer release in their schedule because it doesn't have that
Starting point is 00:30:21 single, like that meaty single player experience. And the stuff that the Treehouse people made is fun, but it's just so short. And you know, if I bought it, I'd have to turn on my Wii U. And there's that. And then the other thing is that like my wallet is like 80 bucks lighter. You know what I mean? So it's like, that's a lot for something that. Not a cheap game with very little meat on the bones.
Starting point is 00:30:39 Yeah. Like throw it in a pot. You get a stew going. So that's where I stand on it. But like, maybe when I get to the better levels, I'll, I'll, yeah, exactly. Like that's the problem is people are putting meat on the bones, but a lot of it's rotten. Yeah. And there's only so many fucking don't touch the button.
Starting point is 00:30:55 Yeah. Listen to the theme. You see what I mean? Like, they said they're going to work on like music tools as well for it. So it's like, well, we're going to get a whole slew of levels that are. Furation. Stand here for. Probably.
Starting point is 00:31:10 Like sabotage my enthusiasm as little as it was for this game. Is that nonsense that Nintendo pulled against people doing like tool assisted? Yeah. That was bull. It's like, that is the one thing about that game that I wanted and now you're actively shutting it down. Well, great. Now I have no reason to care.
Starting point is 00:31:27 Well, it's stuff that's been around for 10 years. Yeah. Now it's competition. Oh, fuck off. I know. Fucking bullshit. Totally. Anyway.
Starting point is 00:31:35 It's the only reason anyone cares about your stupid shit. We got a lot of good stages in, submitted on the Reddit for our upcoming videos. Still not until like next week, I don't think. That we just shit on kind of. We got, no, it's still a good game. Just as a product, there's very little use in that bonus. You can understand. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:31:55 Yeah. Not really having fun with it. Look forward to our videos. It sucks when I'm online. I've been through all the curated levels and I was like half an hour and there's nothing left. Matt, the best videos you've ever made are ones in which we want to die at. Not really.
Starting point is 00:32:09 No, you're not there. Right to hell. Well, Mario Maker is a plate with a knife and a fork and it's, and whatever goes on that plate. I'm not, I'm not, I'm not disputing the facts. It's just, yeah, not brought in meat on the bone, like any game ever. Yeah. I would pay to see somebody eat.
Starting point is 00:32:27 Please look forward to our video. I've been served, I've been served bad tasting meals. I look forward to the good meals. There you go. But that's a good philosophy. We're going through them, terrible oversight on our part. People are submitting like eight levels per person. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:32:42 But that's fine. But that, I didn't say one per person. But that's fine. I only look at the top level in every list. Yeah. No, no, I'm looking at every level in that. Are there lots of good ones? You've been looking at them.
Starting point is 00:32:53 There's, yeah, there's some good ones in there. That's for sure. Cool. Is it, is it too much to handle? Dude, there's tons. No, no, I'm going to do them all. I'm going to do them. How many of them?
Starting point is 00:33:01 Because you guys can't know any of them. How many of them are secret porn? Zero. Two. Okay. That's more than I thought. But how many of them are existential crises? Crises.
Starting point is 00:33:10 Crises? None. None. It's an empty stage with the word help written in coins. But yeah. And the pipe's just in the ceiling. Yeah, no. Will you save your son?
Starting point is 00:33:24 That's still a thing I have to go do. Other than that, I played, I actually, I played a game that I didn't really expect. I played Lego Jurassic Park because it was on, there was a deep sale on it and I was like, you know what? A deep sale. Deep sale. I've been like, I've been wanting to play a Lego game for a while. I haven't touched one since there's not that many to choose from, unfortunately.
Starting point is 00:33:43 So I'm glad you picked the one that was available. Yeah, exactly. So I, I mean, I bought it and I was like, whoa, this game's fun. Shit. Like, secret, fun secret about Lego games. They're not bad. They're not bad. Like, it's not bad.
Starting point is 00:33:57 I'm, I'm like 70 or something through the game. I finished all four movies and I was like, this was good. And they got all the, they got most of the audio rights for the actors in the movies. So a lot of the scenes are replicated with, I really like the Lord of the Rings one because it has all the voice actors, but it makes it dumber. I prefer the silence. That's fair. That's fair.
Starting point is 00:34:16 You know, the physical, the physical dumb nature of the Legos is funnier with serious voice clips. You know what I mean? Sometimes. Yeah. I'm coming from a tester point of view, but like, I enjoyed the minifigs just acting out their dumb scenes. The pantomime-ing.
Starting point is 00:34:32 Yeah. And like, someone will do something and then they'll slap their head because it's funny. And speech bubbles with icons in them. Yeah. It's true. I forgot about that. It was cute. It was cute.
Starting point is 00:34:42 Yeah. All the pantomime bits in this game, you can tell, you can see they still have that like slapstick sense of humor, but like, yeah, it's a lot more guided by the dialogue. That's for sure. That being said, the dialogue mid-mission is great because they couldn't be pantomimeing stuff there anyway. Right. So like, you'll be reproducing scenes from the movie, like the kitchen scene, right?
Starting point is 00:34:58 The kitchen scenes in there, just as you'd expect. It's really, really cool. Obviously, that doesn't have a ton of dialogue, but like, it's got all the audio bits the way you'd want them to. So the raptor sound sounds exactly like the raptor sound. It's like a Lego raptor. Yeah. Okay.
Starting point is 00:35:12 Exactly. Does the raptor come in with like a graduation hat and it's like, oh, clever girl. Like shit like that, you know. It comes in with fruit all over it. Yeah. Sure. Yeah. But it's really fun.
Starting point is 00:35:21 You get to play as all the dinosaurs and you get to break things because everything's like, oh, it's a fun game. I don't think I'm going to play one for another 10 years, but that was enjoyable. Yeah. It's going to be ready next month. Dimensions. I was going to say, you should have saved that edge. Like the reason I don't want to play dimensions is because like then you're signing up to
Starting point is 00:35:35 dimensions and you're like, okay, starting at 90 Canadian dollars plus, plus however much. Right. Who's your favorite doctor? Yeah. It's the rock band of the Lego games. One of those kind of like me. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:35:49 Christopher Eccleston is the correct answer. Oh, okay. What the fuck is Lego dimensions? It's the toys to life Lego game. It's the version that has everything in it. It has back to the future. It has Scooby-Doo. Scooby-Doo has every licensed character that you think Warner Brothers could get.
Starting point is 00:36:02 They got Lord of the Rings Batman, the Lego movie, Jurassic Park, and Chris Pratt. Everyone. Yeah. Jurassic Park isn't it? Because Chris Pratt's in it. Yeah. And Doctor Who. Doctor Who.
Starting point is 00:36:15 Like including Leon. Including Gary Eldman. Okay. I was like, yeah, there's two questions. I guess I asked the wrong one, but I played some more Metal Gear and that's still like a total blast and I've been playing Destiny. I bought the Taken King. And like they did it, I guess.
Starting point is 00:36:32 They fixed the game for the most part. As far as the Taken King is concerned, because I haven't gone back and played the old content with the updates, but as far as the Taken King is concerned, they fixed it. And I'm shocked because I didn't think they could, but Taken King opens with like a series of cutscenes between each mission. What? I was like, there's storytelling and like in the original Destiny, the story was told around an emotionless robot who sounded vaguely like Peter Dinklage, a mysterious robot girl
Starting point is 00:37:03 who you followed through the world who didn't tell you much, and the main character who is almost a silent protagonist to the point where I would forget what the voice sounded like. He sounds like Master Chief. Well, unless you're a girl. Yeah, but like the man voice sounds like suspiciously like Master Chief. Every time the person spoke, I was like, who is that? Oh, it's me.
Starting point is 00:37:21 Right. Yeah. No, no, seriously. Apparently they've improved that, but I haven't gone back. But in Taken King, they take four characters you know, three of which are from like the base Destiny and they're like NPCs, the fourth ones from the Dark Below. And they take these four characters and they kind of put them more front and center a little bit.
Starting point is 00:37:41 And they're kind of organizing the whole operation against this dreadnought ship, right? And there's this bit at the beginning that took me aback because you have to, you go get this stealth drive so you can get close to the dreadnought and you get it and you're like, okay, I need a ship for this. And earlier in the game, like pre Taken King, there was a girl called Eris Morn. She had this huge ship and she was just standing out on the edge of the tower, right? And you could talk to her. She's underneath the stairs now.
Starting point is 00:38:06 When I visited the Taken King, I was like, where the fuck did Eris Morn go? Where'd she go? And I saw her under the stairs and I was like, oh, but where's her ship gone? Why doesn't she have her ship anymore? Oh, well, that's weird. And you get to that point in the game where you need a ship. And one of the characters, Kate, is just like, yeah, I stole Eris Morn's ship here. You can use it.
Starting point is 00:38:23 And you're like, no, you stole her ship. And then you get that moment where you're like, no, Destiny, you're supposed to be a cold, unfeeling robot game. Why am I smiling and laughing along with like actual dialogue? Like they did it as far as the Taken King is concerned. Again, I haven't touched the other stuff. I got one question for you, though. What's that?
Starting point is 00:38:45 Your jump cancels. My jump? Of course. Okay. Yeah. You know, there's swords now, too. So the one thing I just read about was how you can do, you can do like jab, jab, jab, jump, jab, cancel hard and like there's like, you can straight up do five hit strings and
Starting point is 00:38:59 shit. Yeah. And there's tiger knees and stuff. It's awesome. And they added, yeah, swords and handguns and those are super fun. It's just, it's good now. I'm surprised. I never thought they'd get it to this point.
Starting point is 00:39:11 I thought it would get a bit better, but like the Taken King is very good. I gotta say, I'm impressed. I hear Pat, you've been playing it. I hear Pat's been playing it. So I saw this hub of happening and as somebody who came away from Destiny around launch with like this mediocrity and boringness that turned into like rabid hatred as this thing that I couldn't understand became super popular, I was like, I have to know. I have to know right now.
Starting point is 00:39:39 I have to know exactly why everyone's. So I, unlike Liam, I didn't have a character that was leveled up and I had like a level 14 character or whatever. You scratched. I scratched it. Wow. And the first thing, the first thing that you find out is that say the mayor of the town or whatever the fuck, his name is the speaker, the guy that would be the mayor in your town.
Starting point is 00:40:01 I could tell you about the, but yeah, there you go. You go up to him at some point during cutscene and then he's also a vendor sometimes and like the very first thing to notice is that there's a little button. It's like, hey man, hey, you know, you've probably been away from Destiny for a while and taking King's really good. Hey, you want to just go to taking him right now? You want to just become level 25? Does it talk like Rick from Rick and Morty?
Starting point is 00:40:26 No, no. That's inserting dialogue, but there's an item you're giving. There's a button that just says, hey man, you want to be level 25 right now. When you buy taking King, there's an item you're given that's a seed and you can use it once on one of your characters to bump into level 25. To get to that content. So if you make a new character, you can just bump straight up. So that's how they fix that issue.
Starting point is 00:40:44 Because we were saying, every remote does that, no? No. A lot of them. In fact, 14 got a lot of criticism because you still have to go through all the story content to get to Heaven's War and that's like two reasons. Well, the Warcraft has a thing where you can buy some fucking shit. Well, the Warcraft has a thing you can pay. You don't get to pay for that.
Starting point is 00:41:00 Everybody else makes you pay for it. Everybody ever gives you a free level thing because they assume that that early content is still good. Well, that solves the issue you were talking about with like Destiny 2 and stuff and the just like, yeah. Just force a level bump. So the early game, like the missions are still the same, but it's kind of amazing what you can do with a few slight tweaks here or there.
Starting point is 00:41:25 So first of all, drop rates on everything good have been increased by, I want to say like four orders of magnitude. I at launch, I played that game up to level 14 for like a week and I never got a assault rifle that looked any different. The whole time it was this gray ass boring assault rifle that was boring as fuck. And I had like six up to level 10. The leveling speed is way faster. There's now little dialogue boxes when you go talk to, like there were a series of...
Starting point is 00:41:53 Well, and now you get to level to 40 instead of leveling to fucking 20 and then you light levels. It was super confusing because the only time you would ever get dialogue or story or anything was in like the loading screens. And like sometimes Peter Dinklage would talk when you found a computer thing. And like the jump between missions was large. Like it was like, wait, what? It felt like there were gaps missing.
Starting point is 00:42:15 I just got a... It felt like there was supposed to be a cutscene here, but there wasn't. So now at least when you go to your mission guy, there's like a dialogue. It's not spoken, but there's a little text box is, oh, hey, you found that cool thing. That's great. You know what? You should go to the moon and check this stuff out. And this is why you should go to the moon.
Starting point is 00:42:32 And it helps. The feeling I get from what they've done to the leveling and gear structure in the one to 25, it feels exactly the same as like the Diablo 3 overhaul when Diablo 3 had the auction house and had all those problems and was like, no one's getting anything good. Everyone has to go to the auction house. People hate the early game. The only good game is a cap. That was a disaster.
Starting point is 00:42:54 Yeah. The console version came out and they completely overhauled that shit. All of a sudden, I really loved Diablo 3 and was like, oh, this is great. Now I get drops. It's amazing. All they had to do was kind of increase the variability and the drop rate. And you don't get stuff like a fucking loot cave anymore. That thing.
Starting point is 00:43:14 And the multiplayer is a lot better. I can't exactly tell you why, because I never really got super into it originally. It was always pretty good, actually. But it feels a lot better now. I can't say what it is about it. After you said that, I went back and played some more and I was like, I don't really feel the difference. Because I remember there was some weird balancing issues all day, week one.
Starting point is 00:43:34 Like it has been rebalanced. That's for sure. I ended up liking it a lot better. So yeah, it's pretty good. Aside from- So did you use the level 25? No. No.
Starting point is 00:43:43 No. I'm doing it to no. Yeah. Then you save that for your next character. Then I gotta know. Is it bump you to 25 or give you 25 levels? It bumps you to 25. It makes it so you can go into later stuff, but it doesn't give your abilities experience
Starting point is 00:44:00 and stuff like that. Like your subclass doesn't level up, so you don't get all your skills. But upon going on a level 25 mission, you will get those skills very quickly. Yeah, exactly. It's really so that you can make a new character and bump them up to the later content. The other thing, the big thing that they changed in this, aside from like very esoteric loot-based shenanigans that no one cares about, at least neither you two do, is what they did in the original game was super weird.
Starting point is 00:44:27 You could level 1 to 20 with experience by shooting guns and killing guys and doing quests. Get to level 20. But if you wanted to level past level 20, you had to get good items. Yeah, and the items had a light stat on them. And light would act as post-20 XP, which would mean that like, oh, I didn't get a drop. I can't do this ability because that needs, I need to be level 21, and it ended up in this situation. Abilities aren't locked to levels.
Starting point is 00:44:54 They were not locked at all? No. Abilities aren't locked to levels. Then what was locked to levels? It was like doing later raids and stuff. Okay, yeah. Where it was just like, you need to be level, if you're not level 28, you're fucked. And it's like, well, I ran this thing every day for a month and I never got my Matterhorn,
Starting point is 00:45:09 Glatterhorn. That's one of the many experience people won. So now I can't do the thing because I'm just unlucky with drops. And now they've changed it so that, no. Every other MMO doesn't, even though this is an MMO, it's like, you have your level, your level cap, and you have your item level. And your item level is determined by whatever. And now you can...
Starting point is 00:45:27 They're not the same number. Yeah, they're not the same number. They don't feed into one another. And now you can do your currencies or your roulettes to just eventually, if you're unlucky with your drops, you can buy pretty good stuff. There's still stuff. Like, the light level's still in, but now it's just an indicator of your... Now it's just your item level.
Starting point is 00:45:44 Yeah, exactly. But that is still a restriction for really late stuff. There's missions that are level 41 missions, and you need this light level to get in. That's fine. But it's just the old system was super confusing, and then like, hurt people that are unlucky. The old system also, it felt like it capped off too early because it just wasn't enough. Going up, having room to go to level 40, it feels a lot better. So, big improvement, I'll let you know.
Starting point is 00:46:08 God, I fucking wish you could just tilt a third person that... You can in the social area. Yeah. Where all the cool combat happens. The third subclasses are really cool too. Yeah. I haven't even seen the original subclasses. They're cool.
Starting point is 00:46:24 Let's see. You have to get to 20 to get the second one, right? Yeah, I think so. Maybe 15. Maybe 15. No, it's 15 and 25, yeah. You moving off of Destiny? Yeah.
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Starting point is 00:50:28 in FF14 because I wanted to talk about... Talk about the booty shorts. Well, we talked about that in the fucking Metal Gear episode. Talk about when you wore the booty shorts. No, so I was just complaining about like unisex gear in a lot of these games. Ends up heavily skewing towards one gender or another. Yeah. In FF14, if you're a healer, you're wearing a dress.
Starting point is 00:50:48 You're wearing a dress and occasionally you're wearing like a skippy dress. Is it a robe? No. It's a dress. It's like I look like a pope right now. Like white mage? Yeah. No, like a pope.
Starting point is 00:51:01 Like a pope. Popes will wear a dress. Popes wears a dress, man. Robes. You wear a robe. He's talking about robes. He's just being pat about it. No, no.
Starting point is 00:51:09 I'm... No. They have a robe. They're a bit more garnished. There are robes and then some of them are dresses. Alright. Like I could show you the Astrologian like iso gear and you'd be like that's a fucking dress. The main thing is he's not saying what you think.
Starting point is 00:51:24 Astrologian? How do you spell that? Like if that doesn't mean that. And then esoteric. There it is. That's a dress. That's a dress. That's exactly the same on both genders.
Starting point is 00:51:39 Okay. Okay. That's a dress. This happened when he talked to me as well where I thought it was going to go the other way where he was going to be like all the female ones are just super naked. But it's no. The men wear the dress too. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:51:52 Which is way better. And it's like there are very mild variants between the two. But that's great. And it's super annoying. And it works both ways but it actually like the male armor on female characters looks really good almost all the time except for your occasional boob window. But the dudes usually also have the peck window. Do they have a ball window?
Starting point is 00:52:16 No. They're behind. Maybe if you play as one of those freaky asshole potato people. Yeah. I hate them. Bringing back ball window. The Lollafels. The Lollafels.
Starting point is 00:52:26 What does the Lollafel smell like? It smells like a fucking freak ass little potato. Oh. A bunch of freakazoids. They're super cute. They are a disproportionately high amount of that game's population. Because they're adorable. Fuck them.
Starting point is 00:52:37 These cute stupid potato freaks. You can't see them when you're playing. Like oh I need to hear the character. They're like Yoda. Where are they? I can't even see the character. It's the problem that every tiny race character is. So everyone has to play as a Lollafel.
Starting point is 00:52:51 So everyone's the same height. So those are the only two games I played at all. As for other content that I enjoyed. I started to watch this anime on my girlfriend's recommendation. It's called, I'm going to botch into this. So get ready. Liam saved me on it when I botched it. It's called Ore Monogatari.
Starting point is 00:53:14 Ore Monogatari. There it is. Yeah. Roughly translates to My Love Story. Yeah. It is about, you ever played Cheetah Man? Yeah. You remember Cheetah Man 2?
Starting point is 00:53:26 Where they create the eighth man, the strongest subhuman yet. Okay that's our main character. That's the main character. He's a big, big, square jaw man. He's huge. He's giant. And he ends up. So when I yelled Yamato, everyone was like oh you're watching and I'm like no dude.
Starting point is 00:53:43 Street Fighter. Shut up. Yeah. So, and then he saves this little girl from a groper on a train and then slapstick romance happens. This is by far the sweetest, most over saccharine giant anime eyes fucking love story for teenage girl soap opera fucking thing I've ever seen. So perfect for you.
Starting point is 00:54:10 It's great. It's the best. Don't you love the bit where he jumps out the window of the streaming building? Yes. And it looks amazing. I do god damn it. It really, the show really reminds me of, remember that terrible Kintaro Mayura fucking side manga he made?
Starting point is 00:54:27 The one called Japan? Oh Berserk. No. Yeah, you know. Yeah. It's just called Japan. It was like four volumes. It's about this big buff Japanese Yakuza guy who's got this straight haircut and he falls
Starting point is 00:54:39 in love with the most princessy little girl ever and he never gives up and she's just always goes, what the fuck are you doing? This will never work. So. And whenever I see guests of the show, I'm always like, that's what it is. There are only two reactions you have watching this show. You go, oh no, and oh my god, that's the only two. There are only two.
Starting point is 00:55:03 And those motherfuckers cliffhangered the shit out of everyone on episode 2013 and then took a week long break for the end of that cliffhanger and I fucking, oh I don't go on a scale. A week for a show is not long. On a scale from. It's an ongoing manga that's being adapted. A week long. On a scale from Densha Otoko. It's a big cliffhanger, man.
Starting point is 00:55:25 On a scale from Densha Otoko to Karakana. Where does this fall? I don't know what you're saying. I don't know where. I don't know where. Where does it fall? Answer the question. I don't know what you're saying, but it's more towards Karakana.
Starting point is 00:55:38 It's good because I like Karakana. It's just so, it's like an Azumanga Dio love story, I guess, in tone. It's just so happy and perfect and simple and nice and everyone. I had a feeling you were going to say Azumanga, although there's a lot of stuff that's like. It's my only touchstone here. Exactly. And you're never going to go there because it's the one you got. It's like when he was watching Ghost in the Shell and he's like, if Azumanga Dio is serious
Starting point is 00:56:04 and also not funny. Other points on your fucking chart. No, I'm watching just the right amount of anime. It's like Black Lagoon without all the violence and also funny and romantic. To anybody that also revies a little girl. To anyone who has the potential for the flame of love in their heart, you should probably watch this because it's the best. Don't you love the bit where there's this huge problem and then the problem ends up being, oh, I want to sleep with him. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:56:35 This is the best episode. That's the problem. Yeah. It was so dramatic. It was so heart wrenching. I was so worried something actually bad was going to happen. And then it's like, oh, no, wait, it's actually fun. You're just too pure for this world.
Starting point is 00:56:47 So I'm going to talk around it because it only involves the first. She's like a cinnamon bun. That's pure for this world. And sweet. It's like too sweet so that if you ate the whole cinnamon bun, you'd be sick. Sticky. Is the show enjoyable if you watch it, for example, and say you just don't like her? Impossible.
Starting point is 00:57:05 It's impossible. You can't not like her. No, because she's not annoying. There's nothing annoying about her. Yamato. You mean Yamato? Yamato. Whatever.
Starting point is 00:57:13 Yamato. You're saying it wrong. I can't say it correctly. Yamato. Yakuza. Yeah. I'm having a problem. It was like my girlfriend and I were talking about it and I was like, so Yamato and Sanu.
Starting point is 00:57:24 Yeah. I was like, Yamato's wrong and Sanu isn't even that character's name. The character's name is Suna. So I want to talk around it because it's like a big plot point, but in the first two episodes, but it almost made me stop watching and you will be able to empathize with the thought here, even if not the specific. There is a very tropey Japanese plot happening in those first two episodes, interpersonally between the characters, in which you are immediately struck with this terrifying fear of please
Starting point is 00:58:05 don't let this be what the show is about. I can't. I can't deal. I can't deal if what the plot I'm seeing now is what the show is actually about because it's the just communicate problem. Let's go say the thing and I can't. You mean just talk. Just use your words.
Starting point is 00:58:22 Just talk like humans. Yeah. That's the worst. It's the worst I've ever seen without question because it's so obvious to the viewer and it's not to the people in it and the first episode ends and you want to die. Yeah. Okay. But it solves it by what?
Starting point is 00:58:42 Four? No. It solves it by the second one. I went back and checked. Was it the second one? No. That's the same. Like they actually get through it.
Starting point is 00:58:50 Well, that's the same. What's that? Seriously? The second one? Holy shit. That's where I started bubbling up in the kids on the slope where I was like, just save the thing. And you're halfway through the sentence and then they've already done it.
Starting point is 00:59:00 Yeah. No, no, no. Just solve it. Because I know it's going to be 24. Walk with me for a minute. I got to talk to you. All right. Done.
Starting point is 00:59:08 Yes. Yes. That exact thing happens where a character gets fed up of the situation, grabs a hold of someone and says, just shut up. Just listen. Yeah. Okay. Just, you know, no, no, shut up.
Starting point is 00:59:19 Yeah. And he just effectuates it right there. This is what's happening. This is what's actually happening. But you have to remember these shows are made in a country where two arcs can be made out of gathering the courage to talk to someone. You're right. You're right.
Starting point is 00:59:32 You're right. The author. The author. The author to come down that opportunity. The typical Japanese love story is I knew her for a year at school and then on the last day of school. No, I knew her for 15 years. And then you were a childhood friend.
Starting point is 00:59:45 We used to take baths together and we moved apart for seven years and I forgot about her, but she remembered everything. And she got hot. Why don't you love me? And then on the last day of high school, I told her I kind of like her, I guess, and they started holding hands. So yeah. No.
Starting point is 01:00:01 But then her best friend and all the other girls. All the other girls staying at the inn are getting in on it though. So it's a little bit of a trick. And then my teacher keeps trying to grab my heater. No. Prediction for best friends. Watch Love Heena. Never!
Starting point is 01:00:14 Like it looks. Best friends. Watch Love Heena. GBA opening. It looks. Because that's amazing. And nothing else. It looks like it's going to be this cringy fucking, I can't handle this, shut up all
Starting point is 01:00:25 of you people topic. And then it moves off that. And then in episode three, I got really confused because I'm like, no, wait, what is this going to be even about now? There's no villain. There's no conflict. That's it. There's what?
Starting point is 01:00:39 That is the conflict. Okay. Well, a fire broke out and some people were mean. Okay. That's as dramatic as it's going to get. Yeah. But they keep egging you on with like, this is the perfect relationship or is it? Yes it is.
Starting point is 01:00:53 Yes it is. But it's not. Maybe. Exactly. Until the self-doubt arc, which is what we're in right now. And then they cliffhangered us on it and that fucking, that guy's 21. He's 16 years old. What the, that part of the, that dude is 21.
Starting point is 01:01:17 Petition for best friends to watch Matt read Peach Girl Manga in corner. I vote to watch. So even if Wednesday's episode turns out sad, I know it'll all work out in the end because the manga has been ongoing for a long time. Yeah. I don't know if I can read the manga because the voice acting and it's perfect. It's absolutely perfect. Liam, have you glanced at all at the Prison High show?
Starting point is 01:01:46 No, not at all. It's been going, I haven't either. I haven't either and I'm like, I've kind of just like, I'm like, because I've read so much of it at this point, I might as well just keep going with that. Right, I hear you. And like the one thing they showed me, like I got a clip of that legendary tits versus asses moment, which I'm sure you, you must. Tits are just fake asses.
Starting point is 01:02:06 Yeah, like the animated version of that. And I was like, you know what? You did it right. You did it justice. It's okay. Because that was the one thing I was waiting on. So what's the moment where you were like, yeah, I need the over under. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:02:19 Yeah, yeah, you do. No, it's the best ever one should watch that show. It's it makes you happy. It's a good, it's a fun show. There's no qualification that needs to be made. It's just, it's just a happy, good thing that it makes your life better. Have you watched a school rumble? No, I've watched some of that.
Starting point is 01:02:36 You know what, the, you know, you know what, I really, really, hold on. God, no, I agree with you, but like there's a mental analogy I was having with you get nothing out of that as I was watching it. And my girlfriend told me I was stupid, but I was like, whatever. I'm going to say it anyway. It reminds me of, you know how Gurren logins about robots? Yeah, no, but you know how it's structure increases in scale? Yes.
Starting point is 01:03:04 It has the same plotting, but instead of instead of robots, it's like 15 year old like lovey teen drama that said the orders of magnitude aren't there. No, but they are, but it does escalate. Everyone is not as much of a J curve as Gurren. No, no, it's a nice smooth group. It's like every every little every little up. It's like, oh man, that Christmas, Christmas episode, man. That's what's the worst example of just fucking talk that you that you can
Starting point is 01:03:33 think of fucking talk to me for me is in Game of Thrones when we were playing early on on the wall and you were screaming at the screen, just talk. Yeah, that's the ultimate example. I know there's probably one, you know, my fucking bile, full gut, his Epo just talk. Yeah, it's just you. Because it goes on for a million episodes, but that still goes. That still goes with the the origin of this anime from this country.
Starting point is 01:04:03 And that's just not how they were to KO and Yamato are not Epo and Kumi. Yeah, no. Yeah, yeah, no, no. Well, the fact that there's an actual couple thing that happens is already steps ahead, but it's like just one of them doesn't have a scary hitman style boxer for a brother. Yeah, that's true. Or a giant penis that should be made fun of.
Starting point is 01:04:25 Yeah, pointed that. He probably has a giant penis. The guy is drawn like a like a fucking big show walking around. But is it a source of shame? No, as it is. His rippling pecs are a source of shame once that could just belie the fact that he's not all down there. And I don't know.
Starting point is 01:04:45 He wears short shorts a lot. Yeah. Anyway, Epo's great. Is that where he takes his shirt off? Everyone don't watch their pants. Yeah. What's going on? Speaking of love and wonderfulness, I had the most horrible pain of my life
Starting point is 01:04:59 recently in the last couple of weeks because I've been hitting the gym super hard and I got the trainer now, the in-trainer that has such a light touch on making you feel like you're just two more, two more, two more. OK, I lied. Two more. And I'm like, well, it's just two more so I can do it. But how is it eight more? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:05:24 Now, he's a really nice guy, but he's pushing us. I will never forget my football coach. Two more. There's one, two, three, three, three, three, four, five, six, six, six, like, fuck you. That's like, you have no idea how many you have. That's also good. And plus, I have a tough time breathing right when I do weights and stuff.
Starting point is 01:05:49 Like I exhale and they're like, you have to always do it like this. And when I'm focusing so much, I haven't forgot to count on how many reps I do, right? So he is the one counting for me, which is a mistake because he goes, you've just done seven. And I'm like, but OK. That doesn't seem right. That doesn't seem right. Like, I'm not great at math, but I'm not great at math.
Starting point is 01:06:12 But I know that I've done 12 and he's like, I'm pretty sure you've done eight. And I'm like, but you said seven. And he's like, younger than me, too, which pisses me off. It's like being bossed around by Liam or Liam was like, I know better than you. And I'm like, I guess you do. As you get older, we're going to find a lot of people that are younger than us that know a lot more than we do about stuff. And it's going to suck and be a huge asshole about it every time you can.
Starting point is 01:06:39 And I actually really like going because the satisfaction of when it's over is amazing. Like, you'll never feel better than you do when you're done. Because then you're like, yeah, free time. Like it's like school from your home. And I did. Yeah. Speaking of which, I started playing on the PS4, the vanishing of Ethan Carter again, which I started on the PC. And I'm not sure I've even heard, but like one of the more amazing like,
Starting point is 01:07:08 well, that's cool is that on the PC version, at least they redid the entire game in the new version of Unreal Engine 4, changed some gameplay stuff, tweaked it, put less backtracking and overall improved the game for free. And people ran tests, the game runs perfectly and never dips anymore. Where that game is gorgeous, looking at pretty looking game, because it has just a little bit of over exaggeration fantasy to otherwise as close as you can get, given this engine, photorealism. There's just a little bit of exaggeration.
Starting point is 01:07:47 So it looks like better than most things. Like to me, going through PT, it looks better than PT. Well, as a first person thing, just because there's so much more, a little bit of exaggeration and fantasy going on there. And if any of you ever booted it up, I think Pat may. No, no, but like it's one of those first person, you know, sort of adventurey things, but like very, very early on, very early on, you press and your character can just see into another dimension and see.
Starting point is 01:08:18 Yeah, he has an eagle vision, right? He has kind of eagle vision, but in spots. So you have to put that spot, that magnifying glass. Like murder soul suspects. Yeah, but good, right? And and it's really, really interesting. And there's so little guidance in the game. I forgot about this, that I had to bumble my way on the PC version to try to go.
Starting point is 01:08:38 Oh, oh, oh, I can do this. And going on the PS PS4 version again, I kind of, which is the new version, right? Yeah, I came out like a couple months later, and I kind of hope that either before I get a new PC or they put that update on the PS4, which again, if for free would be nice. But I'm really interested to try to go through that game because the writing in that is so strong. OK, like after me and Pat have played like a couple of games recently
Starting point is 01:09:04 where we're like, that game's pretty good, but the writing kind of sucks. Or it's kind of really refreshing to get the opposite. And this is just like so and I put a Twitter post and I played where you were talking about blood and bullets, bullets and blood, which is fucking horseshit. Like it's the worst writing ever. It looks cool, though. It looks OK. And then when you get to the writing, which if you're in a 1950s period,
Starting point is 01:09:28 detective, hard boiled noir thing, your writing has to be on fucking lore. It's more just like follow the formula, you know? And if you fuck up the formula, then you just fucked it. They fucked it up. I think that's the weakest defense of anything I have ever seen. The weakest defense? Like, I think that is the most half-hearted defense of anything I have ever seen. But it looks cool.
Starting point is 01:09:49 No, it was way less than what you just said. Just now, but it looks cool, though. My mom says I'm cool. Like, like when you boot it up, it also looks terrible. When you boot it up, it's like it runs like shit. Exactly. Like, why did you even bother? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:10:08 That's all I know about that. But aside from that, I know this is going to be on a left field, but I played a couple hours of Shadow Man. And yeah, because I'm working on a video. That's where it's at these days. I'm working on a video with a friend of ours and we're like, let's just review Shadow Man. And I'm like, really, you're into Shadow Man, too?
Starting point is 01:10:26 He's like, dude, I was all about Shadow Man. So I started playing it again and I forgot some things because we always talk about name your dead baby. Only one person talks like that. Yeah, exactly. Like, we talk about that. We go, hey, Shadow Man. Every conversation we've ever had about those promotions
Starting point is 01:10:41 is you saying the wrong thing and me telling you, no, it was this. Name your dead too. No, but now I like name your dead baby Turok and put it on his grave. Name your dead baby dinosaurs, shaved head, Turok. What? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:10:56 Tattoo fear effect on shit. Shave your head for Turok. Oh, I know. That's a third one. That was recent. That's name your baby Turok. It's put Shadow Man on your gravestone and now shave your head for Turok cancer.
Starting point is 01:11:09 Tattoo GTA 4 on Turok. You've got to call him John Turok. I feel like that was very recent. Like packs or some shit. I think that might have been whatever. But I started playing Shadow Man and I forgot. Name your baby you Narakumi for persona for dancing at home. I forgot that Shadow Man is collect these, go,
Starting point is 01:11:29 figure out what to do after that point because there's no set progression. So it's like Mr. Bones. You can know those are levels. This is a completely interconnected world that uses a Zelda item progression and be Mario 64 style star. Need the amount of stars to get into that area.
Starting point is 01:11:47 What's the star area? Dark Souls. That's correct. It's they're called just dark souls. And other than that, that's all the game is. It's just wander around and find your fucking way. And I was like, how did I get half, I remember defeating bosses as a kid.
Starting point is 01:12:02 I don't even do that. I had more time. I had more time. But what about that back of the box bullet point that's like, they swear. They're swear right now. It doesn't actually say that, but it does.
Starting point is 01:12:12 Pat was talking about something earlier, which is says over 90 minutes of cut scenes. Yeah, good. And there is. There's like over 90 minutes of cut scenes. That's what you were talking about before. And I forgot that the voice acting actually really stands up. So that game is surprised.
Starting point is 01:12:25 Like it's still clunky. It's still that Tomb Raider style control of go forward. Oh, the great face shit. Kind of waddle around and you have no quick turn and you take lots of hits. But, and you start off way weaker than you should be. And like it takes forever to kill standard enemies. Other than that, I'm pleasantly surprised.
Starting point is 01:12:42 But I'm like, okay. Well, this is certainly a lot better than I thought. You go back to Turok one and it's just. That's what it looks like. Yeah. I'm having fun with that. Pat knows at least, but Ally Kitty has been attacking us all weekend.
Starting point is 01:12:57 Oh yeah. I was recording, I was editing a video and we just hear this ruckus on our back deck and this Ally Kitty that we think, because it has no color. You called it stray cat on the red. It's not red. Stray cat cross Zach.
Starting point is 01:13:12 Continue calling it stray cat. Stray cat. Okay. Because it's not a persona. It's not red. No, it's not bad. It's not not bad. It's a stamp.
Starting point is 01:13:19 Okay. Yeah. Which part? Four. Four? Which one's stray cat? Stray cat. No, but which one is that?
Starting point is 01:13:27 I can't remember. It's the fucking cat. The cat? Which one is the cat? Man, I forget. I literally completely forgot. Stray cat. What's happening with the cat?
Starting point is 01:13:34 Stray cat just doesn't leave us alone. Just is very affectionate. But Zach. Kicking off your balcony. I did not want to because it's able to get back up and the balcony is all blocked. So Zach can't like a skip.
Starting point is 01:13:45 Hey, and Zach does not like the cat. The cat does not care about Zach. But Zach, like when Zach kisses, I do not like it because I've never heard it. Is there a life bar that happens when you approach it? Is the life bar a pop up? Do you see a life bar fill up at the bottom of the screen
Starting point is 01:14:00 when you get near the cat? I feel like there might be. And we're not sure what to do because these three separate days. I don't know. I don't know how you forgot that. Stray cat has appeared and we don't know what to do
Starting point is 01:14:11 because it just doesn't want to go away. We can't tell. You know these cats? Poison. Anyway, I don't, I'm always animal killer. So. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, not murder poison.
Starting point is 01:14:24 If you want to get rid of it. Just like make it throw up. If you want to get rid of it, you're going to have to call like animal catchers to kind of figure it out. But like all but considering bringing it into the house and like you're introducing Zach and stuff. It's like just realize you might have a long process.
Starting point is 01:14:38 You might have a little Damien situation. It's a long process. Plus we still have to record in your house. So yeah, when I was growing up, we lived in an area in Verdun where there were a bunch of stray cats, but we never had to deal with that because we had like a shitsuit thing.
Starting point is 01:14:49 So you just put poison everywhere. No, no, the dog was the poison and the dog would come in and it's like, wow, there's a lot of blood on this dog. Oh, did you get a hurt bite? No, actually, you're fine. Okay. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:15:03 So I hope, I hope I haven't seen stray cat like yesterday and today or the small time that I've been home today. But like I hope it's like, cause we don't want to call like someone to catch a cat. Of course not. But if it's actually a problem, I think that's why we only do this.
Starting point is 01:15:18 We're just thinking of putting up posters like, is this your cat? Cause we've seen it. They're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're being around. There becomes a moment when the cat accosts you outside your home and like it, it hisses at you or some shit.
Starting point is 01:15:32 It hasn't, it hasn't hissed at us. And you're like, what if it has rabies or whatever? And then you have to call and, you don't know. No one, no one has talked shit about the SPC, SPCA yet to me. So I think you can call them, don't call Peta. Don't do that. Is there even a Montreal chapter?
Starting point is 01:15:49 Probably. There's that. Yeah, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a apartment, it's a loft. Oh fuck. It's got, you walk in, you just get a fucking contact high and you're like, oh, it's Peta. Like, like what we said, burn the orphanage,
Starting point is 01:16:04 not very great. I'm kind of disappointed with it, but I collected all the back issues. I was missing the Gem of the Hall Grants comic, which is legitimately awesome. And it's one of those things that's just like the show where you turn the page to see what outfits they have next. Very dress-fierish.
Starting point is 01:16:20 Can't wait to see the movie. I've not seen a costume repeated in this comic book. Every time there's a new performance, it's a new costume, hairstyle's completely changed. And it's just, it's actually just really well written and fun. Characters I hated in the show are tolerable or good in this. You should watch Idolmaster.
Starting point is 01:16:39 I shouldn't. You should play StyleSavvy. I shouldn't. Yeah, and get reminded what a fuck Aki is now. StyleSavvy's good. You should watch. Sure. Don't shit on StyleSavvy.
Starting point is 01:16:49 Is it what I want? You play it, it will be. Maybe. But I'm still having a lot of fun with that. And I'm happy to see that it's doing well because on the back issue it says the Gem of the Hall Grants annual 48 page mega magazine that's all chibi little versions of them art style.
Starting point is 01:17:06 And it's got the best tagline. They're sleepy, they ate all the snacks, it's a sleepover, they watched all the movies and now they are making up their own. And that's the only tagline is to understand what's going on. So I guess it's like, hey, let's have a fantasy about this
Starting point is 01:17:23 and they're having a wacky sequel. All these Don Cannon adventures. Don Cannon, for annuals, that's exactly what annuals should be. Sounds like this week's record morning, honestly. You going season two? Yeah. Fuck yeah.
Starting point is 01:17:34 I'm up to date. All right. Tiny Rick. Other than that, yeah. That's pretty much it. All right. Hannibal season three, if you want to skip True Detective season two
Starting point is 01:17:47 and start Hannibal, because that was True Detective before that started. Yeah, I still have commitments. I'm still watching Gangsta and Gaten. Well, I'm not up to date on Gaten, but Gangsta's still amazing. Gaten's fine so far. Yeah, not bad.
Starting point is 01:18:02 No, it hasn't died as far as I was led to believe. I've been afraid and I've been just sticking to Gaten. Yeah, no, but there's been some funny shit that's come of the events that had led to what was supposed to happen. I missed my shot earlier, but I still want to say something, even though it's way too late.
Starting point is 01:18:17 Yeah, I know. It's like you should turn that Yamato into a Yamato. All right, I'm done. Hannibal season three. Wow. Can we hit the brakes to acknowledge how terrible that was? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:18:32 Everybody point and laugh. People appreciate your new Yamato. Everybody mail bomb Pats Twitter. God, what a stinker. I would actually get a huge kick out of like 800 tweets in a row. Like that is the worst joke I have ever heard. Everybody tweet Pat, making sure he knows
Starting point is 01:18:51 that's the worst joke you've ever heard. Strap that joke to yourself on a bus in Tel Aviv, why don't you? Jesus. Pfft. Pfft. Pfft. Pfft.
Starting point is 01:19:01 It's like I'm fully, like, oh, I gotta cut down on the dad jokes. All right. I gotta cut down. All right, and now we're saying. That's the trick with dad jokes, you can't. No, I have to double up. You can't.
Starting point is 01:19:11 No, double up on the dad jokes. Oh, I need to build a balcony. Okay. So before we get. That's where you're getting to. Before we get into the. Build a deck, man. Both fine.
Starting point is 01:19:20 The big news, the giant TGS roundup that we gotta do. And before we get into motherfucking Karen. Were you saying that begrudgingly, TGS is awesome? Of course. I just want to talk. You're saying it begrudgingly? No. You said, of course you were.
Starting point is 01:19:34 No, no, no, no, no, no. I'm not. I'm saying this is, these are. Wally, have you disparaged the good honor? There are good things we need to get to. Okay. First things first. I want to talk about how Konami has ceased triple A production
Starting point is 01:19:47 on everything but PES. And on PES, they've decided to shit your mouth if you're a PC player. Open wide. It's going on there. They ported the fucking PS3 version to PC. Oh. Also compares because the only people that play PS
Starting point is 01:20:06 are Europeans and Japanese. That's actually a lot of people. So none of them care about PCs a little bit. Yeah, but I guess that's Europe's very big on PC. I don't know. That's soccer managers. And like Russians. That's soccer manager.
Starting point is 01:20:19 Everything but the nail in the coffin at this point, really. Yeah, well, I mean, as far as. Hey guys, we need you to help us seal us in. We're own coffin. Yeah, can you give us some nails? As far as, like, we're concerned? Yeah, of course, but I mean. I mean, that's all that matters.
Starting point is 01:20:32 Those Pachinko fiends out there are getting hot. It makes sense though, like. How does it make sense? Well, we all knew they were going to do this. When you look at stuff like Metal Gear Solid 5 and how it's only sold like 3 million units compared to the estimated budget of 80 plus million for development.
Starting point is 01:20:47 It needs six to make to break even. It's still not even close to breaking even, which is like. That's minus market as well. That's one thing. And then it's like, you could take $10 million and invest in $10 million mobile games. And one of them will come out and you'll be making 500K per day.
Starting point is 01:21:05 Yeah. Like. And sell all your legacy IPs to people that can manage their budget. All I mean is it makes sense because it's like they're just not ready to get into gambling. Which I don't want. There was always bound to be a company that
Starting point is 01:21:19 was in video games that stuck around for a while. But clearly, it's like if they hadn't out, they would have just taken it. I'm not saying I'm happy with the way it's gone. And this is that company. I wish they would still be making games. I know. I hope at least now Silent Hill can just die.
Starting point is 01:21:35 It's not like it's a bad business decision. It's actually probably a great business decision. And that's what I mean is that it just so happens that one of these companies is something that we have attached IPs that we care about with. But it was bound to be an eventuality where a company we care about just goes, you know what? Fuck this.
Starting point is 01:21:53 We want to make money on mobile. That's just a wrap. Maybe the sum total of my happiness will increase because they won't keep beating Silent Hill's dead horse body with a bloodstone. Admit it, though. You kind of want another three bad Silent Hills. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:22:07 For the channel. For work. I feel like a goddamn us and the fucking Twin Perfect guys feel like we're fucking experts on bad Silent Hill games. But I'm sure there's people I'm missing, like the amazing homecoming LP that was like, Choose Your Own Adventure. I forget to do that.
Starting point is 01:22:25 Yeah. That's nifty. It's like he pauses the video and there's annotations. It's like, do you want them to go out the door or examine the room? Is there that much creative choice in there? With commentary? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:22:34 Wow. And it's no, there isn't. It's actually quite linear, which lets you do something like that. Wow, nifty. Because eventually, it's all just one fight through. And it's like, do you skip him examining the room? Yeah, they're all cul-de-sacs.
Starting point is 01:22:47 Yeah. That game's a piece of shit. I hear. Doesn't deserve that amount of high-level LP quality. It's a lot of effort. That's why we just farted some stuff out. I guess now we have to legitimately wait until Konami, if it ever happens for them to shut down,
Starting point is 01:23:05 because that'll be the only opportunity for them to liquidate. Nah, gambling's forever. I think they're just going to disappear into the fucking Pachinko noities. Exactly. I don't see them shutting down for a long time. Yeah, that's it.
Starting point is 01:23:16 Those Pachinko mines can be reopened and expanded. Yeah, of course. Breathe it in. Where do you think you get the little balls from? Black in your lungs. But in happier news, god damn it, she's back. God damn it. You mean Karine?
Starting point is 01:23:30 Yes. She's back. No, Kasadin is what a lot of Japanese people are calling her. Kasadin. Kasadin, Catherine, because they're like, the face doesn't look like Karine. Because she's grown up pretty. She's grown up.
Starting point is 01:23:40 No, because she doesn't look like a cute school girl. She looks like a weirdo. OK, Japan. Fuck off. I mean, we'll go right into the sense that this continues to legacy. It's like 40 guys on a message board. I will say that Chun-Li's face looks way better
Starting point is 01:23:54 than every other girl's face in the build. But except for Mika's. Mika's great. Mika looks perfect. Yeah, and she looks Japanese. She looks the way she needs to look. And it also continues, Street Fighter 5's somewhat semi-consistent legacy of making awful faces.
Starting point is 01:24:10 What's wrong with Ken? What happened, Ken? What happened, Ken? What happened to that? Did you get hit by your own car? What happened, Karen? I know you have one. Vega.
Starting point is 01:24:18 The pregnancy's been really hard on you, hasn't it? Birdie's just not as pretty as I want him to be. He looks like a guy cosplaying as Ken. Birdie looks good. I admittedly, I would have rather be called Birdie. Birdie's not pretty enough. What the fuck?
Starting point is 01:24:32 But he's already fucked me, so it's easy for them to do him. We're in those career lists. Fine, but then again, you probably have the most work. I am so happy. Just give her a beard. I am so happy that the announcer says the character's names when you pick them, because now the arguments are done.
Starting point is 01:24:49 Yeah, they are. Like, guess what? I hate that her name is Karine, but it's not Karen. But I can't fight it. The announcer says her fucking name. She says Karine. And he says Karen? I thought it was Karine.
Starting point is 01:25:04 It's not Karine. Well, I'm a fucking idiot. Yeah, I don't know. Fuck! Yeah, you're just, I don't know what I'm talking about. I can't pronounce shit. Her name's Karine Yamato. Kenzuki, idiot.
Starting point is 01:25:16 Kenzuki. Kenzuki. That one, I don't know. Kenzuki, you do it. Anyway, that stage is the best stage. That is the best stage in the entire game, even including the shit we haven't seen yet. And it's double best, because it's
Starting point is 01:25:29 the remake of her old stage, in addition to being a crazy new thing. It's fucking great. And I can't wait for the ability to knock people into the dining hall and continue to fight inside. Or knock them to the left, into the little fucking koi pond or whatever the fuck it is. Fucking wait, man.
Starting point is 01:25:43 So good shit. No, she looks great. Her move list, though. That I was so happy. Her move list printed off the front of the arcade cabinet. Like, just fold this out as you play. I was telling Woolly the other day. Give a dial next to Karen.
Starting point is 01:26:00 Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey. Second to second feelings during that trailer is like, OK, well, she looks great. But her V-trigger can't be her wreckage. That'd be too complicated. Never mind. Not only. We took her two biggest skills away and turned her into a
Starting point is 01:26:16 character that basically has to build up to that. When you get it, it's fucking last. She's ever been. Yes. However, well, let me give it some context. Karen in SF3 Alpha 3 had wreckage, kind of like Phaelon. You do it three times, and she'd do three palm strikes. You could go and you could mix them up with different types
Starting point is 01:26:34 of strikes, but you could never do as many as you could now. You could do high, low, counter. No. Yeah, exactly. And now you can do high, low, overhead, throw, and crossup. Back dash, also. Crossup and back dash. So all options.
Starting point is 01:26:49 You can guess. It turns what would be a 50-50 or 30-30-30 into a 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10. Like, fuck. Here's the secret, though. None of them are true strings. None of them. So.
Starting point is 01:27:03 Unless you hit with the basic punch, punch, punch one. So if you're mashing an uppercut, you can knock her out of all of them. Except for back dash. Except the back dash, which blows you up. And now you'll have the fucking counter hit shit on your shoulder. Exactly.
Starting point is 01:27:19 So that back dash is actually the best one. And the back dash is the only other move that drains her V-trigger. What a great character. So it's all there. That's so good. It's cerebral. You should explain that, the DP thing.
Starting point is 01:27:31 OK. It's the best. Do you want to take this one? Yeah, sure, man. I'll fill in if you do. Basically, counter hitting is something that happens in the Street Fighter games, where if you're doing an attack and the person hits you
Starting point is 01:27:41 while you're doing an attack, you usually take the hit lasts longer so that. You get opened up extra big. You can do a bigger combo to that person. More damage, more hits done. It's called a counter hit. And I have games that can have counter hits and something called fatal counters in some of them,
Starting point is 01:27:58 in which you fatal countered them. That's a counter hit during something that's really huge on recovery. And then you can do all sorts of shit that wouldn't be possible. It's almost like a focus crumple in that. Like you can just go nuts on it. So what they've done is in SF4, you had a bunch of safe shit you could do on wake up.
Starting point is 01:28:15 And the biggest problem was you're sure you, or equivalent, sure you can, into FADC forward or backwards if it was safe or not. And it made it super safe if you had the meter. They've decided that, well, no, if you whiff, you're sure you can. If you miss it completely, or if it's blocked on falling back down to Earth,
Starting point is 01:28:37 anything that touches you will be a counter hit. Yeah. So what this basically is is what you call it. A whole thing in this game, a philosophy of people that combo fiends that you want to be like, people need to feel like they're losing in the right way. And if they're not losing in the right way, then they're going to be less likely to return.
Starting point is 01:29:01 And they will likely blame the game instead of themselves. Exactly. So the example that is the most obvious is the way everyone has a way of dealing with fireballs. Because fireball spamming for people that don't use them properly is annoying. So now that everyone has a free tool to escape them, they should never be an issue.
Starting point is 01:29:20 Because you should know how to tap that button. Do it right. And in this case now, with Shoryu, because it's the same thing where it's like, he keeps smashing Shoryu on me and blowing up everything. Every time I jump in, I get beaten out. Every time I go to do something to him on wake up, he does a Shoryu, I eat it, it sucks.
Starting point is 01:29:37 So now it's like, you put a little bit of work in and you block that Shoryu, take 40% of his life. Because that's all or nothing risk. And he took it. And he read it wrong. He said, oh, if I just Shoryu right now, they're going to do something stupid, I'm going to blow up, it's going to be great.
Starting point is 01:29:54 I'm going to throw out my least safe move right now on a guess. My guess was wrong. It's time for me to eat my bowl of shit. Especially since not only does everything create a counter hit on it, but if you have your crush counter button, which is the extra huge stun vert button, you can always just tap that and go nuts on that button.
Starting point is 01:30:16 So this works out for everybody. So people that aren't as good at reading like wake up bullshit, they're going to also deal with less wake up bullshit because people are going to be scared to do that stuff. Because of the punish, man. Yeah, of course. You're going to see less even scrubs just raw Shoryu-ing because they're going to get blown up crazy a couple of times.
Starting point is 01:30:41 The true scrub won't learn. No, the true scrubs, they won't even know about that. I don't even call those people scrubs. They're not even worth talking about. But yeah, man, that's an exciting change. Something else that's weird to change. That's even that game, Honest. Something that changed with the recent build
Starting point is 01:30:54 is Nikali is now a charge character. That's the biggest change that has ever been made to a character from unveil to release. That seems like the most focused, tested. No one's playing this character right now. Easy Honda. And like, while I'm OK. He's going to make Ross will exclusively use Nikali.
Starting point is 01:31:10 While I'm totally OK, and I'm more like Blanka now as well. Yeah, he's a body projectile charge character. Now his body projectiles are amazing, but you got to charge. Now while I'm OK with that, because I'm more than comfortable with charge characters, the fucking thing that does suck is the inability to just walk forward and like react to a jump in anymore. His DP was really strong.
Starting point is 01:31:32 It's really good. It has a lot more horizontal range than it looks to have. It's really good. But the damage, one, it wasn't invincible unless you used EX, and two, the damage wasn't massive. But he would shut down all your options before. Well, anyone would assure you should. The problem I had with him, more than just assure you.
Starting point is 01:31:50 Is that his stuff is the problem I had with him. Well, we played with him a bunch. I know, and I've watched all the footage. Is that he had just a little too much startup on everything? I'm just trying to say there's a way to handle DP characters that you might not be thinking about. He ran into the problem a lot where it was really hard to combo any normal into any of his regular dashes or whatever.
Starting point is 01:32:12 Because they just had a little too much startup. And I imagine they had that startup, because if those properties, the distance and damage on them was the same, but he could motion them out, like, oh my god, he'd be so strong. So now they make him into a charge character, and they can make them faster, and keep the damage, keep the range.
Starting point is 01:32:29 The problem is that it doesn't look like they're tweaking the frame data on him. So what we have now is, and the thing is, his one motion move is the stomp. And he's meant to be played like Evil Ryu. And the command grab. Yeah. So it's meant to be played like Evil Ryu's axe kick.
Starting point is 01:32:42 And I'm worried that he's not going to have his bread and butter anymore. Even though it doesn't exist yet, because the game's not out yet. I think they'll give him another bread and butter, exactly. Your worries are early. Yeah. Because right now, the only, well, because prior to his normal bread and butter, crouching medium, stomp, jab into discs
Starting point is 01:33:02 guidance, if that's a charge, and you don't have enough time to charge it, now you can just get another stomp. But you've got to spend bar on that. And it's not like that's, it makes him a lady. Well, they could change him back to motion back. Anything can happen. And yes. Like Nikali's wild change in ability and like Bison,
Starting point is 01:33:21 his psycho inferno going from a charge move to a motion, like has shown us like there's a level at which you should probably stop analyzing Street Fighter 5 footage. Because it's never been, like you know, in the little bottom right corner, stuff might change. Like it's never been this strong and this obvious. Sorry, Vesper, I'm going to leave you again. Yeah, literally month to month major things are changing.
Starting point is 01:33:46 Vesper's channel is fucking amazing. Vesper, he's great. He's always been the best. Yeah, but I didn't know until recently. But like, his Street Fighter 5 stuff is awesome. Vesper Arcade, he's cool. So, Arc, you posted on Twitter, and holy shit, and Eventhub's had it, what's his name?
Starting point is 01:34:04 Jay Something, posted those goddamn slow motion. Oh my god, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Slow motion. An analysis video of the Stunfest videos. This dude needs to get some representation. Do you need to rep that? Because I watched that.
Starting point is 01:34:19 Yeah, the way Max, we're looking at real fighting game videos. Yeah, absolutely. This is Jay Rigo. He has under 2,000 subs, and if he does this shit more often, he should blow up. So he did a series, he hasn't analyzed this. He can't really.
Starting point is 01:34:35 When you're focused on fighting games, your channel cannot blow up. They can blow up in the sense that that's as much as you can. So he still matches Momocchi and Daigo, right? At Stunfest, he slows down the first game of their set to 10 minutes, and he text overlays with some really cool music. Fantastic.
Starting point is 01:34:53 Everything that's happening mentally in their FTSE game, right? So stuff you can't see. Why they're doing these things, why they're walking forward and backwards, what these things mean. And then he did it again for the second set. And all this really, I find, is that there's so many people that, you know, how do I get better at fighting games,
Starting point is 01:35:10 all these questions we get in and stuff and whatnot. This is what you need to look at. Look at this to understand how much is going on and what matters and what doesn't. You remember that part where Daigo backdashed and then did a light kick at nothing? That wasn't him mashing buttons. No, it was setting up the timing for the text thing.
Starting point is 01:35:27 Or setting up timing, or wanting to catch a step kick. Or nothing means nothing. Everything is there for a reason. Except some things in that video. There's several times, I think at least three times, where it goes, I don't know what he was going for. It's usually for Daigo is, I don't know what the fuck he was trying to do.
Starting point is 01:35:43 Well, sometimes you just feel it out. But usually, when you're fucking playing properly, there's a reason. I love fighting games, and I've been playing fighting games for a long time, not quite as long as Willie, but like, right? I didn't even know. Like, I didn't, like, when I watched this, I felt like an idiot that, like, I implicitly knew,
Starting point is 01:36:04 but I didn't quite internalize, like, how much of this stuff was going on. How much, how much, how much of the man was, man. I wasn't, I wasn't, I hadn't internalized it, like, I had the more or less naive opinion that at a certain skill level, you're just doing all of it on feel. Like, it's all subconscious knowledge.
Starting point is 01:36:22 And I'm looking at it, and it's like, no, that's, he's setting up distances, he's testing ranges, he's, the first time, like, I understood it, but the first time I really, really deeply understood it, was watching, Mortal Kombat, Devil Alliance. I was watching Diminion fighting against Chirithi, and that, like, it was just,
Starting point is 01:36:42 it was just set. It was under Sonic Booms. Yeah, and, and, like, it was a, it was a match where it was, like, any misplaced movements meant the round was gone. That was one of the best matches I've ever seen, like. And it, you know what I mean? And it was, like, I don't know if it was recorded or not,
Starting point is 01:36:57 but. It was recorded with the crowd. Yeah. And it's, it's online. What's the fucking tournament called? I always forget. It was, it was probably Nemesis, or, it was probably Nemesis. It was Nemesis, exactly.
Starting point is 01:37:06 God damn. It was, it was, it was, and, like, you watch this full set of, like, it was first of five, because it was Grand Finals and stuff, and you just, you felt every round the, the push. The tension of battle. The pull.
Starting point is 01:37:18 Now that he's backstashing out of this situation that we've seen ten times, the situation has changed. Dude, the amount of walk forward, back dash, walk forward, back dash, walk forward, back dash. Walk forward, back dash. Wait for it, wait for it, yeah. And, like, frame one of Sonic Boom,
Starting point is 01:37:30 Ultra Flash. Ultra Flash. And you're like, oh. And, and so I got some replies after I posted this match on Twitter, because there's a, like, some people were basically like, I don't understand fighting games, but this is phenomenal.
Starting point is 01:37:43 I can't get enough of this type of thing. And other people were like, this sucks. This ruins it for me. Fuck off! Right? And, and, and, it was like, I like. It goes both ways. Like, no, it was, it was like,
Starting point is 01:37:53 like more chaos equals more fun. And I just said, competition is not for you. No, exactly. Not just fighting games. It goes both ways, exactly. Go back, go back to Mario Party. Like, literally the idea of competing at anything is not for you if you're like more chaos, more fun,
Starting point is 01:38:11 less chaos. That's great. Again, Mario Party and Mario Kart, right after Alley. I would love to see, like, a football game in which a bunch of tigers were led loose on the field. Yes. Sure. But, but no.
Starting point is 01:38:20 And I've got these riding of giant ants onto the field. Professional players with chaos inserted is the top elder volunteer of gameplay right above professional games. So we got it. Pure chaos is at the very bottom. Finals are changed so that the players will be randomly shocked with electricity
Starting point is 01:38:41 at random times. And there's a third character in the middle of the stage and it's Hey Hachi and Justin Wong gets to play his game. Here's the thing, if I'm playing Smash, I would want no items on. If I'm watching Smash, it's 5,000 times more fun to me to watch that, more entertaining. When something cool happens.
Starting point is 01:39:03 Now, let's up the ante there and say you're playing Smash for a couple thousand dollars. Yeah, that's it. Sorry, sorry, sorry. Let's say you're playing, let's say you're playing Street Fighter for a million dollars, which is going to happen eventually. Like, we played Rivals of Aether and that was really fun.
Starting point is 01:39:18 I really liked that one stage that had the rocks that kind of fell because it was a balanced thing where I'm like, okay, I can avoid this because I can see it coming, but it does give an element of like, It still had the walk offs though. Yeah, that's the one. I prefer the one that had the rotating platforms.
Starting point is 01:39:33 Cause that's a good, That one was good too. That's a good bit of movement without fucking shit up all the time. See what happens to the Street Fighter community after five years of multi-million dollar tournaments and everyone is rich. East by the way.
Starting point is 01:39:45 And like, East sports. By the way, we had also recorded a Rivals of Aether with Pat in the video about wasps. It's an indie game. What did you think of it? I thought it was fun. Yeah, it was fun.
Starting point is 01:39:55 I don't care for Smash games in general, but I thought. It was a battle beast though. I thought as far as those ones go, like it was easily my favorite. Also a quick shout out to CFN, the Capcom Fighters Network, which also got announced, which is equally as exciting as the character movement.
Starting point is 01:40:11 The stuff these guys are gonna track. Heat maps. Fuck heat maps. How many time, how many of my losses included more than 50% of my damage from throws? How many jabs did you throw out? And how many games have you run for jabs?
Starting point is 01:40:26 How many jabs do I throw out in winning matches? How many jabs do I throw out in losing matches? But maybe I should jab more. Yeah, what moves KO'd people most of the time in my metrics, right? That is, that chart is so awesome because it breaks it down into, yeah, normal specials throws, critical arts,
Starting point is 01:40:44 and whatever counters I think. And it was just like, if you look at this, no matter what skill level you're at, and you're seeing that one of these numbers is zero, that means you're not. And one of them is 50%. You're not playing to the fullest of your ability. Fucking great, man.
Starting point is 01:40:59 Like, is my throw damage on opponents zero percent? Seems like they could be able to take those metrics and also do a thing similar to Shadows where it makes a character based on those steps. And like that. So you can fight Daigo whenever you want. That rival system. And win easily, because Daigo.
Starting point is 01:41:17 It's like, you can set a rival. And now I'm hoping that the usual fight thing is another fight is coming your way so that when you do fight a rival, you get the right message for that. So the rival system is basically like, hey, you're playing ranked or whatever the mode is, and man, you got blown up.
Starting point is 01:41:35 Like, no, like you just, it was not even close. You feel ashamed. 13-0. Hit that button. Okay, I'm gonna be able to see their replays. How are they blowing other people up? What about people that use my character? Are they online?
Starting point is 01:41:51 Can I go in for a rematch? There is a stock button. And it lets you fucking stock a player and challenge them. If Daigo blows you up, you're probably never gonna be able to get another match. There's a lot of people gonna be hitting that button.
Starting point is 01:42:06 But if it's a friend of yours, if it's Billy that you used to know from high school, and Billy's a fiend, and Billy's not famous. Yeah, fucking make Billy your rival, and fucking just, uh-oh. Fight against him from the front. Oh, I figured out how to get out of this corner trap. But now he has some bullshit
Starting point is 01:42:21 for when you get out of the corner trap. Okay, well, more to learn. Oh, it's, oh, I hope they do seasons. I hope they do, like, oh, it's gonna be very good. It's a platform. It's happening. It's a platform. And they asked about, like,
Starting point is 01:42:32 hey, what do you guys wanna see in a compendium so they can get huge-ass, big prize money? Mm-hmm. You wanna buy a fucking player's compendium for fucking Street Fighter and bet points on, like, semi-legalized gambling inside the system on who you think's gonna win the Capcom Cup? Unprecedented deal announced with Salty Bet.
Starting point is 01:42:51 Yeah, wait on it. All right. Salty debt compendium. Holy shit. Let's get into the TGS Roundup. Fuck. A lot of shit. A lot of shit happens.
Starting point is 01:43:00 We're gonna have to go real fast on this one. Well, we don't have to go through all of them, just the shit we care about. Yeah, Bloodborne expansion, that's the one. Bloodborne is coming with more stuff. Shocking. And it, yeah. Are we gonna do it?
Starting point is 01:43:10 I don't know, because when you beat that game, it kicks you into the game. Can I watch? Plus instantly. Can I just be a quarrel? Which means that I will have to replay the entire game.
Starting point is 01:43:18 We haven't discussed it, but- They said it's in the early parts of the game. Really? There's a lot of- I'll play up to what's the purpose of that. There's a lot of reused bosses in that trailer. And it's originally two DLC packs, and they decided to combine them into one big one.
Starting point is 01:43:32 Which is cool. Anyone, and so I will sum up all of the interviews with, hey, are you familiar with the DLC, Artorias of the Abyss? It is that for Bloodborne. It is that size. It is likely that amount of bosses. It is that amount of areas.
Starting point is 01:43:46 It's like three or four areas. Three or four areas, yeah. Okay. The next thing on the list that I'm skipping down to would be, oof. Gravity Days. Gravity Days is right there. Gravity Days 2?
Starting point is 01:43:57 Are you gonna skip it? Hey, we're putting Gravity Days 2 on PS4, because why the fuck wouldn't we? Okay, stop. Let's call it Gravity Rush. Well, it says right there. You wrote it. You wrote it down.
Starting point is 01:44:07 You didn't write this. You wrote it. This is on- It says words. Yeah, Gravity Rush remastered by Blue Point. Yeah, Blue Point. That's really good. Wait, didn't Blue Point do Shadow of the Colossus?
Starting point is 01:44:19 Yeah, but their conversion was immaculate. It's just to ever did the European version fucked it up 10 years ago. So that should be really good. Game was good in the first place. This should only be better. Finally, not held back. Whatever.
Starting point is 01:44:34 So a couple of weeks ago, maybe two episodes on our channel. Not chained. We had a news announcement that was like, yo, SNK got bought out by some Chinese company. I don't know. That will happen. Right?
Starting point is 01:44:44 Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. It's right below it. One second, one second. Sorry, I thought you were talking about it. You just stopped listening. It's coming to PS4. I thought you were describing Gravity Rush 2 in that last little bit.
Starting point is 01:44:53 I'm talking about Gravity Rush 1. Yeah. Okay. Who directed Gravity Rush? Some guy. The guy who directed Silent Hill 1. Oh, really? He's not fucking weird in Siren.
Starting point is 01:45:03 Gravity Rush is made by Team Siren. Yeah, no, yeah. It's the same team. They didn't even change it. They basically like worked for Sony. Yeah. Gravity Rush 2, do you get to play as the rival character? We finally showed off the second one.
Starting point is 01:45:12 Unconfirmed if you can play as Raven, but. I wanna play as Raven. We showed off the second one. It's only on PS4. I was a bit bummed initially, but after looking at it, I was like, this is so far beyond what you could do on the Vita that it's like, okay. Is it footage?
Starting point is 01:45:24 I didn't see it. Oh yeah, there's 1080 footage. I'm gonna watch that footage and my winner gonna get picked. The environment sizes and the density is like, way, way higher. Either you two ever play that. I'll play it now.
Starting point is 01:45:35 Dude, the fucking. The first one? Yeah. The movement mechanic in that game is Spider-Man 2 Levels of Good. It is so amazing because you're not flying, you're falling. You're falling with style.
Starting point is 01:45:49 You change where. Yeah, I don't have a Vita, so I'm just gonna play this. Oh, it's the best. You know what? I bet Gravity Restoring Master 1 will be dramatically improved just by being on a regular controller and that dash mechanic will be,
Starting point is 01:46:03 and dodge mechanic. The touch screen. Yeah, that dash one was really finicky. I don't like it. No, for sure. It wasn't perfect on the Vita, for sure. It didn't even run at native resolution, so. Yeah, so, you know,
Starting point is 01:46:15 if you're on a dash screen, yeah, because that's how we want it. Is it coming out in English? I don't know, fuck off. Slap Harakas' face in amazing HD. So, Yakuza. Well, it's coming out in English, but in seven years. Yeah, maybe.
Starting point is 01:46:26 So, like, fall 2016. I'll play the remaster of the first one because I played Yakuza 1 the most. Yeah. There's a quote Negoshi had where it's like, we were really limited on the PS2 for Yakuza 1, and boy, is he right. You go back to that game in like, the load times.
Starting point is 01:46:42 I thought you were gonna say Negoshi had a quote where he goes, please rub some things on my body to make it stop burning. He was like, please, please, I need more spray tan. Salve. I need it. So, yeah, the other day we had a Rirana story, or a Rirana story.
Starting point is 01:46:55 We talked about, We did. We're important. SNK got bought out by something millennium. What happened? Some Chinese company. What happened? What does this mean?
Starting point is 01:47:05 We don't know. It means a pile of shit is gonna hit our eyeballs. When that fucking K-O-F-14 teaser came out, dude. I gotta say, they started the teaser perfectly. Yeah, okay. The way it started with 1994. So, you knew. You knew.
Starting point is 01:47:21 You knew. No other game. I wonder if we can make audio forms of what our faces look like. Because mine was, My only thing is, I had someone show me the perfect reaction of myself, which is like a screencap of me in hot pepper gaming.
Starting point is 01:47:39 And I just took it, and it was just me staring straight ahead. And I just go, Me looking at this trailer. The only thing I can say is that I think it's a bad trailer in the sense that you still don't really get a hundred percent good sense of what a match actually looks like. But what they showed was not great.
Starting point is 01:47:55 Makes me wanna die. I'm not upset because I'm so overwhelmingly embarrassed for them. I'm so insomely. My sense of like, whatever you wanna. Empathic shame. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:48:08 Well, you know, you see someone get hit in the balls and you go, Oh, you know that actually triggers real pain. That's not psychosomatic. That feeling is what I get watching this. Where I'm like, I just feel bad for you. It's a good phantom pain, but for your balls.
Starting point is 01:48:19 Anyway, Ferrisis is on Suicide Watch. You know, Oh God, Ferrisis is on Suicide Watch. Holy shit. No, he's already dead. He's on Suicide Watch. So remember Liam earlier said and make sense
Starting point is 01:48:32 for them to do this move? About Konami, but as when I think about it, like KOF Maximum Impact is like their greatest success ever. Absolutely. And I wonder if that 3D models are cheap. It made sense to go to 3D, honestly.
Starting point is 01:48:46 Like if I'm not mistaken, they were already using 3D models and drawing sprites for them. And you know what? And they just took one step out. And then there's honestly, there's no problem with going 3D. That's okay.
Starting point is 01:48:56 That's fine. They just said, I don't think they can do it on their first try. It's that the 3D they used looks unbelievably terrible. Aside from that, KO, like this redesign is awful.
Starting point is 01:49:08 So the backgrounds are terrible. Like nothing happened. Here's a great perspective. My girlfriend doesn't know about King of Fighters. She does, she just totally ignorant of it. And I look at it on my phone and she looks at me like, what's wrong?
Starting point is 01:49:20 Like I showed it to her. It's like, what is this a PS2 game? Like for real. So the answer is so bad. I was watching it live and when it started to countdown, I was like, oh shit, Microsoft is dead
Starting point is 01:49:34 for competitive fighting games. Microsoft's fucking dead for competitive fighting games. And then I finished watching the trailer and I was like, K.I. is really good. They should have just shown a logo. Showed us a show a logo. It looked so all right.
Starting point is 01:49:48 And that's underwhelming for K.I. And then they come out and say, well, hey, that trailer was made out of actually really old footage. Which you go, then why did you make the trailer out of old footage, idiots? Here's some screenshots.
Starting point is 01:49:57 I remember telling you like they should have shown it at like PSX or something. There's some screenshots to help quality. No. Nope. Damage has been done. I got fooled by the trailer.
Starting point is 01:50:05 Someone goes real gameplay footage of a first match and it's some embarrassing homemade K.I.F. game. With that one, Cindy. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And Cindy. And I had a chuckle at that. I saw that. It looked better.
Starting point is 01:50:19 China is fucking just. China! Ooh! It's laying. And the, okay, does anyone know? Does anyone even have- Pachinko would have been a better fucking game. Does anyone even have an inkling
Starting point is 01:50:30 if Maximum Impact was made by the core K.O.F. team or was it made by an old shoot team? No, it was because they, yeah, it was, it was. Okay. Yeah. Cause maybe it'll be fine. Maybe it'll look bad. I think it'll probably play fine.
Starting point is 01:50:44 But if it plays like 13 at the same tempo, whatever, it's just not 2D sprites. It will not play like 13. But why? Because you could even just like, just the animation. Like there's no way. But it's early.
Starting point is 01:50:57 It's early as fuck. Right? So that can, they can smooth that over. I don't think it'll play bad. It might look bad. But, but like, again. It'll be better than Maximum Impact. I am not, I understand the budgetary like constraints
Starting point is 01:51:08 and the switch to 3D is not the problem. It's that your 3D looks bad. And you need to, you need to get any, any artist. And it's to come along and put some kind of style into your soulless poser scene. And it's extra jarring because the 2D that they had before was the best. Yeah, no, that's what people said.
Starting point is 01:51:24 Like the fact that it came off this. What would you say number one? Third strike. No. The fighter 13. KO Fighters 13 looks better than Third Strike. I always found Third Strike. It's animation quality.
Starting point is 01:51:36 No, it's animation. The rights are way bigger and more detailed. But I think Third Strike's animation is way better. The reason that I say it's 13, but like, it's subjective. The problem is that I like a lot more Steve Fighter characters than a lot of KOF characters. But that's not the question.
Starting point is 01:51:50 The animation in Third Strike does have more frames than is better. But yeah, the frame, the sprites are way bigger. The increase in quality of Third Strike's animation over 13 isn't nearly as large as the sprite quality that Third Strike has over there. I mean, yeah, it's a subjective matter. Oh, totally.
Starting point is 01:52:08 You just care way, way more about animation. I think animation's a lot better. But the point is that in a 13 and excerpt world that we live in, post-exerpt world, get the fuck out of here with that shit. That's also true. It's flat. It's unacceptable.
Starting point is 01:52:22 Go like, do Revelator even so good. The Street Fighter had its kind of weird half step that I liked, but four wasn't, didn't look that great. And now five looks fucking unbelievable from a visual perspective. Like four is still ugliest sin when I think about it visually compared to Third Strike. Yes, but it doesn't look as ugly as shit.
Starting point is 01:52:39 But it doesn't play terribly. Four still looks good, though. It has a really iconic look. Exactly. I like it. It still looks good. I think this day looks good. I never, like, changes to the characters
Starting point is 01:52:49 designs and proportions. It's its own thing. Like, Elena is garbage compared to Third Strike Elena. I agree. Everything about her is worse in every way. She doesn't even have as many frames of animation. It's weird. Well, that's cross-teche-ing, so.
Starting point is 01:53:03 But she's in Ultra. From cross-teche. From cross-teche. She's just ripping cross-teche-ing. Yes. Blame cross-teche-ing. Blame cross-teche-ing. It works for, somehow, I bet this is cross-teche-ing.
Starting point is 01:53:13 Yeah, just cause three, two, two, two, two, apparently. That's the one we'll get. The next thing I care about is Neo. Gundam Extreme Versus Force. Yeah, good shit on that. It's nice to know that they're bringing that. Or rather, they're putting English in that. So it's not localizing it.
Starting point is 01:53:31 Yeah, I'm so happy it's getting an English thing. But they're putting an English menu mode. Well, no, they're localizing it for Asia. It's getting an English Asian version. So, like, you know. Well, what is that for? Who is in Hong Kong? For Hong Kong.
Starting point is 01:53:43 OK. Yeah, no, straight up, for Hong Kong. Yeah, exactly. And for the huge import tourney scene. Hey, Pat. I'm going to import that. Do you want to start a new LP of Aonimusha 5 with me? I sure would.
Starting point is 01:53:54 But before that, I just want to talk about one piece Burning Blood that we skipped over. Because I saw that logo, and I was like, oh, is that going to be a cool new one piece adventure game? Nope. Kind of looks like J-Stars. Ooh. It kind of looks like J-Stars.
Starting point is 01:54:08 Well, we can't really say, but it's by Spike Chunsoft. And it looks really similar. J-Stars. So it might be more J-Stars, which is not a plus. I just want to point out, for Liam also cares a little bit, as Tokidin 2 is coming out on all of its platforms. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:54:23 Shockingly, it's coming out on PS3. That's weird. That one's weird. Because that was the first one. But this is, hunting games are finally just saying, no, we're going to go to consoles now sometimes. I'm really interested to see what Tokidin 2 is going to feel like.
Starting point is 01:54:34 Because they build it. It's open world. So, you know. Open world, open world, hunting games. There's a group of people saying, well, that'll just be getting rid of the loading screens between the larger areas. But I also feel like it means much larger areas.
Starting point is 01:54:47 Like not like Grand Theft Auto, like Dragon's Dog and shit. But kind of. Yeah. So I'm really interested. Potential. Well, and they added like an Ibarra, like in Freedom Wars. So like the hook thing. So like, I don't know.
Starting point is 01:54:57 Potential for hotness. But instead of potential for hotness, let's just go to something that is just super hot right now. What the fuck is new? It's something that was old. Yeah. 11 years, like you said. I never remembered this.
Starting point is 01:55:11 And it's getting dark souls comparisons. But I see way more Onimu shows with the dark souls. So Geralt goes to Japan. In all fairness, that design was visible for 11 years. Yeah. And CD Projekt stole it first. No, they didn't. The fucking Witcher books pre-dead all the way.
Starting point is 01:55:29 Whatever. Jerry, Jerry, the gray hair man, goes to Onimusha town and Onimusha's all over. When I look at the hero for this, I don't even think of that. I still think of Soki. Yeah, sure. From Onimusha first. Japan likes the blonde, white hair character sometimes.
Starting point is 01:55:48 But even before Soki, in Onimusha 3 and Onimusha 1, like I see that. It looks like Onimusha 1. Yeah, I see that in the trailer. I see Soki. Saminosuke. But I also definitely see the souls games as well. But the difference between those two amazing concepts.
Starting point is 01:56:05 But that's awesome. And if you think about it, Onimusha is in itself similar to the souls in a way. A little bit, yeah. Onkoui Tecmo, Tecmo Koei, do it. Do a good one. Between Tokidensu and Nio, and the regularly scheduled line up Dragon Quest heroes to regular Musou games,
Starting point is 01:56:23 regular RPGs from Gust, and of course, the upcoming Attack on Titan game, which we saw in the video. It was most hot. Someone pointed out, though, and it is true, it's not swinging its air dash mechanics based on a grapple hook. That's close enough. Which is better.
Starting point is 01:56:38 Which is not actually swing. But it's better, really. It's fun air control. I don't know. When I look at Attack on Titan, I don't think that they're swinging. I don't know if they're pulling the jumps. It's air boosting.
Starting point is 01:56:50 Yeah, it is. And it's different from swinging. It's not like Spider-Man, yeah. It's more like Spider-Man. Freedom Mores? Freedom Mores. Yeah, where you're pulling yourself around instead. It's not a swing, it's a bionic arm, man.
Starting point is 01:57:01 Yeah, basically. I really feel like between all their games and their current lineup, they're really looking good these days. They are, they are. And Hyrule Warriors Legends is coming. I'm sure they're going to do a second one after Legends. They just seem on a really strong tear right now.
Starting point is 01:57:17 Well, because we never, ever include them in the list of Japanese companies that are survivors. This is the biggest they've ever been. Like this, literally TGS Week, Tec-Mokoi have their best face they've ever had on. Whenever we run down the list when we finish recording and talk about this stuff. It's Konami, Bandai Namco, Capcom, and Spurnax.
Starting point is 01:57:35 Exactly, that's ever it. But Tec-Mokoi, I think with this lineup, are finally putting their foot in that door and saying, no, we're in here too. That's a good one too. And they're holding it open for Konami to step out. Don't let the door hit you. I think they're doing really good.
Starting point is 01:57:49 And I guess I didn't even include it. Yeah, no, that's what it is. It's like, don't let the door hit you. And then they slam the door as hard as possible. And I didn't even include, they have the new romance of the three kingdoms. One of them just came out of North America. And they still have the Yokai Watch romance
Starting point is 01:58:03 of the three kingdoms that they're working on. Those kingdoms, you were really confused as a child. Prepare for the confusion again, as you play. Whenever I saw those were the only games left in the VHS and video game rental store when I was a kid. Because no fucking kid would read a romance scene of the whatever. My brother was the only one that was always there.
Starting point is 01:58:25 My brother bought romance of the kingdoms, whatever, on Saturn. And he became a total fiend at that game. And I remember sitting next to him and watching him. And he was four years old. And just me, just looking at him, just like, I don't get it. What are you fucking doing?
Starting point is 01:58:42 I don't get it at all. Are you enjoying these maps? I gotta take my army to cow-cow because he's getting my grain supplies or some shit. And I'm just like, can we rent like fucking Dragon Force next time? And yeah, turns out that game's terrible. Yeah, I know, it looks so cool.
Starting point is 01:58:59 But yeah, like Attack on Titan. Yeah, they showed some gameplay. The Titan killing stuff looks, it looks a bit similar to the 3DS one, but a lot more like detailed, like you get to pick the parts you lock onto and stuff. Yeah, yeah, there's an extra. And like, I wanna see the Titan variety
Starting point is 01:59:12 is what's gonna make that game fun. Yeah, cause we only saw like two. Two, yeah, exactly. I thought it was one. I'm glad you said two. Yeah, there was that one other black haired type. Shit. And he had a different behavior pattern.
Starting point is 01:59:23 Fuck, I didn't. But that was it. Yeah. We still have to see the three colossal ones, of course. The specials. Yeah, exactly. And you need to see like the different sizes. And when you get to play as Aaron.
Starting point is 01:59:34 Yes, of course, of course. Yeah. Since it follows Aaron through the whole season one. Path of Aaron. But they got it. Yep. And you gotta eventually unlock that move where you can do a judo throw on a Titan
Starting point is 01:59:44 and flip it over on flight. If you could play as a Titan. Well, it follows Aaron. So you should see it. Oh, you should be able to. It's the whole season one. You're the only one that can probably explain this to me. But like, is Kingdom Hearts a franchise?
Starting point is 01:59:58 Oh, you scared us. Like so many games. You scared so many games. The final fantasy looks great. It looks fantastic. Star Ocean 5, I don't know. Because Star Ocean 4 look good. And then it turned out to be a pile of shit.
Starting point is 02:00:09 All the impressions on this one are so good. But more than that, more than anything. For Star Ocean 5, it's the fact that they know. And they're bringing Star Ocean 2 to the PS4. And Vita. And Vita. That's how you know. Because that's the good one.
Starting point is 02:00:22 Yeah. So if they're bringing that one out, it's like maybe they know that they should make it like Star Ocean 2. Have you seen gameplay of Star Ocean 5? Like A, it looks good. B, I've never seen such fluid like exploring to combat sequences.
Starting point is 02:00:37 Saga, who gives a shit? So ask me your question about Kingdom Hearts. I'm excited for Saga. It's keeping great. The concept art looks great. If the collector's edition for Star Ocean 5 had a sleepy time with edgy edition, and you just get a body pillow on them.
Starting point is 02:00:48 Well, that's what I mean. Well, that's what Pat meant. Sorry. They're walking away from that. Good. Shit. That dude's name was Edge Maverick. That is a goddamn amazing name wasted on that game.
Starting point is 02:00:59 It's so wasted. Saga's Scarlet Grace looks good. I'm convinced that the writers of Portlandia are naming the Kingdom Hearts franchise, because I don't understand why 2.8. 2.8? OK. The reason why, do you want to take this?
Starting point is 02:01:20 Yeah. Because in 2.8, it's Dream Drop Distance, and it's some middle story thing that's just story not playable. And then it's a third thing. Birth by sleep? No. It's 0.2.
Starting point is 02:01:33 And it follows Aqua after birth by sleep. 300. So it's built over 5. It's built on KH3 tech, and it's a sensibly and early look at KH3. But it's only one. So what is 4.8? So really, Kingdom Hearts 2.5 came out.
Starting point is 02:01:47 Yeah, that's definitely it. Dream Drop Distance and the cell phone game that they're turning into a cut scene, that would theoretically be 2.6. And on top of that is the new Kingdom Hearts 3 scenario called 0.2, which takes place right after birth by sleep and leads into Kingdom Hearts 3. Therefore, 2.6 and 0.2 becomes Kingdom Hearts 2.8.
Starting point is 02:02:09 And 2.8 is just slightly under 3, which is the prep game for 3. That's the logic. It's so insane that a company like Disney could say these are the guys that want to work with. They said, oh, good. Is it OK for me to? I know, but it's so crazy because it
Starting point is 02:02:23 seems like such a straightforward American company, and they're like, yes, we want a product with our characters. And it's called the worst shit ever. It seems like they're very hands on for the series. I guess so. It must be. All right, so.
Starting point is 02:02:35 And it's not as though the games are ever bad, so. Not commenting at all on the quality of the game. Can I just, am I allowed to think that this is as absurdly stupid as it seems? It is so. It is the moment of absurdity. This is the worst one yet. I've said it before, but I'm going
Starting point is 02:02:49 to do a very quick version of this. The Kingdom Hearts series has a very confusing, very touchy-feely plot. And the biggest problem with that is that every single sequel came out on a different platform. Every single one. Fucking PS2, fucking GBA, fucking PSP game, a DS game,
Starting point is 02:03:09 multiple cell phone games. Like, holy shit. The Javito one, really? Yeah. Well, no, no. Yeah, you're right. I thought I was thinking of where I said no. But impossible to follow.
Starting point is 02:03:19 And some of them are zero, and some of them are two. And it's so fucking confusing, right? So it always made sense that if they want to do Kingdom Hearts 3, the HD collections are perfect. Because you just, here's the first game, and here's the GBA game, but it's the port of the PS2 version. Which means it's worse. And then this game that doesn't matter,
Starting point is 02:03:38 just throw the cutscenes at you, right? Because just the cutscenes, right? Then they do 2.5. It's Kingdom Hearts 2. And then this other cell phone game you didn't hear. Just throw it. And it really felt like, OK, now there's a path, right? There's a path to just get it.
Starting point is 02:03:51 Like a Metal Gear Solid Legacy Collection kind of thing, right? Or a Calcum. It's unfortunate that the path still requires a PS3 and a PS4. Or a Calcum, where you're releasing all previous Resident Evil's on the GameCube to catch everyone up. Because everyone often asks about certain franchises we talk about, hey, how do I get started on this thing? Do we always say, just play the first one
Starting point is 02:04:11 and move forward on time? Yeah, so Kingdom Hearts is impossible. And it looked like, hey, they're smartening up. They're going to unify it and go either multi-plat or just in the future. And now this thing is, I took like 15 minutes to try and understand that release and what it was and who the character is.
Starting point is 02:04:28 It was Aqua from Birth by Sleep. And it's just like, knowing that the Birth by Sleep secret stuff is the lead-in to the third game, like most people didn't play that game. It's going to just be like, can we start by calling it Kingdom Hearts? Can we? Yeah.
Starting point is 02:04:45 You know? Is that all right? Even that is no. No, no, no, no. It's so good. There's no good. I'm excited for that game, not because I give a shit about Kingdom Hearts, but because I'm
Starting point is 02:04:54 willing to buy it just to try or borrow it or something, just to try the 0.2 and get a look at the KH3 structure. I want to see that. It'll be the equivalent of one world. It'll be like Ground Zeroes. Ground Zeroes. And I'm down to try that. I'm really curious to see that by this end.
Starting point is 02:05:09 And in 10 years, it's ugly, but I'm sure the games are full. In 10 years, there's going to be a reminiscence of Kingdom Hearts revival project. You're going to be playing Kingdom Hearts dirge of Pluto. Yeah, great. That's what I want. Pluto's wearing like a red coat. Yeah, Pluto is the genesis of the entire plot
Starting point is 02:05:27 of The Chain of Memories. Like for all of the convoluted chronology, the Metal Gear games at least have numbers. You know what I mean? There has been a super piece walker, but yeah, you're right. Baffling, like, split between games that have number titles, like 358 slash 2. Over 2.
Starting point is 02:05:47 Yeah, it's called Over 2. Yeah, to Birth by Sleep, which is Kingdom Hearts Zero, but then called Birth by Sleep and number games. But again, like, so confusing. Again, like, let's start by putting the word Kingdom Hearts in the title. They all have the name Kingdom Hearts in front of them. But everyone refers to them by the subtitles,
Starting point is 02:06:09 because the titles are so long. Well, it's like Peace Walker. Everyone calls it Peace Walker. That's right. All right, next up, Dark Souls 3. So Dark Souls has now hit it super big, because the other day, I saw a link to an IGN article that was four new minutes of Dark Souls 3 footage exclusive.
Starting point is 02:06:26 That's how you know they've made it. That's how you know those souls are huge. Yeah, IGN wants it. People are scrapping over minutes, minutes of footage. And if it says, like, off camera or no direct audio. Game's going to be good. What do you want? Umbrella Core is a weird one.
Starting point is 02:06:44 You skipped really far. I'm sorry. I got I got. OK, I'll just let you guys go one by one. Because I got nothing on those. 13 Sentinels? 13 Sentinels? What is it?
Starting point is 02:06:53 Vanilla Wear Mac Vanilla. Oh, that game. Yeah, that looks amazing. Yeah, it looks amazing. That looks super good. It's a hard to remember title. That game is really cool, because they're using a lot of 3D in it.
Starting point is 02:07:03 But the texture work is Vanilla Wear. The best 3D looks amazing. Where does Vanilla Wear go after like cleaning our clocks with their last releases? Robots. You go here. You go there. You go there.
Starting point is 02:07:14 Robots and schoolgirls. That concept art turned it into a game. Yeah. Project D of Future Tone, support of the arcade game. That's really cool. Don't get many arcade ports these days. And what the hell? What the hell is?
Starting point is 02:07:26 Tokyo RPG Factory game. It's Project Setsuna. It's a very, like, snowy wintery looking game. It's kind of melancholy. It's a bit like Chrono Trigger. It's like an old fashioned RPG. Well, it's what they open to RPGs. Well, that's what it was called.
Starting point is 02:07:41 It was like returned to old fashioned RPG. Well, that's why it's called Tokyo RPG Factory, right? Game looks super good. They put out a bunch of minutes of footage. This is good. 13 Sentinels. But yeah, Umbrella Core is just the weirdest thing. Rezzy 20th?
Starting point is 02:07:57 Anything? No? Yeah, what is that? What is that? Japanese-only collection of seven. That's fine. OK. Umbrella Core.
Starting point is 02:08:05 Is it a fan game? It's running on Unity. No, it's just the next. It's the next. Unity doesn't mean anything, man. It's the next iteration. Saga Scarlet Grace is running on Unity. That's what I think of Umbrella Core.
Starting point is 02:08:15 But this is a Resident Evil game. It shouldn't be running on Unity. Unity's fine. Unity's fine. It's fine. I played a game that looks gorgeous on Unity. No, but there's no squabbles over it. But it almost seems like Capcom did another Mega Man
Starting point is 02:08:31 versus Street Fighter where they almost appropriated a fan project. Well, I'll give you a better answer. Fanteray's not working well. We need an engine to fill the whole. Remake 2 will assuredly be done on Unreal 4. So Operation Raccoon City didn't strike me as a thing that would be like, yeah, we can follow up on this.
Starting point is 02:08:49 It sold really well, though. And were there? I remember talking about that at the time. And I attributed that to you. Or let it know it's sold well. It sold well. And it hurt RE6's sales. And what that is, no, it did.
Starting point is 02:09:03 RE6 is like the second best-selling Capcom unit of all time. Yeah, and it could have been higher, if not for Operation Raccoon City. I don't think it could have. I popped in. Remember when we talked about this? I popped in Raccoon City the other day.
Starting point is 02:09:15 And I played about it. Yeah, I saw you had that copy sitting out. And it's one of the most miserable experiences I've had in a while. Because you were not kidding about the Wesker. Not Wesker. Birken. Birken shit.
Starting point is 02:09:27 So we should just slide that all off the table. Because Slant6 shut down after Operation Raccoon City. So who the fuck is this made by? And we don't know who's making this right now. And all I'm going to say is, if it's Capcom internal, it'll probably be a good game. And it's not RE7. That's one thing we know.
Starting point is 02:09:42 It's not RE7. It's a spin-off game. The lack of faith I have in the core concept is near total. But it's like, did Mercenaries 3D shake your feeling of Resident Evil? No. That was a mode that already existed and worked on its own as a side mode.
Starting point is 02:10:01 There is competitive multiplayer in 5 and 6 here. There is competitive multiplayer in 5 and 6. Seven things you need to know about the core. I wish the listener could hear the look on my face. The new cover system has problems. OK, well, whatever. I'm just looking at this to see. The spec team.
Starting point is 02:10:19 I'm just looking to find the developer. The first article is no developer yet. So when you announce a game like this and don't tell anybody who's developing it, that's a really good side thing. No, it's a big question mark, for sure. But if it is internal, Capcom, I'm happy. Because they said for RE7, they want
Starting point is 02:10:36 to go back to more horror-y things, which makes me think. I mean, this is just a guess. But it makes me think they want to go towards more modern stuff, like The Last of Us, which is kind of what they did. They said multiple times, like, yo, we want to make a game like Last of Us. Last of Us was hot. And then you play like you're saying.
Starting point is 02:10:51 With Relations 2, they went a bit that way. You could feel with the bottles and the casing and stuff. But I feel like it'd be a shame to throw away all the cool combat stuff that they introduced in RE5 and 6. And so I'm glad that they're branching it off into its own thing. And they're going to keep making, like, you're just going to make faces at me?
Starting point is 02:11:11 Yeah, well, they're not at you. They're at the things you're saying. And if other people said them, I would still make the same face. OK, because it's like Resident Evil is more than just walking around in scary places. No, it's not. I don't know. But that is what it is.
Starting point is 02:11:24 Sorry, that's what good Resident Evil is. What was Revelations 2 then? Good. And you walked around in scary places. And it was packed with action. Yeah, it's not a fucking competitive multiplayer shooter. There's nothing wrong with a spin-off. There's nothing wrong with a spin-off.
Starting point is 02:11:38 Yeah, you're right. Operation Rackin' City was great. I never said that was great. Shut the fuck up. You just said there's nothing wrong with a spin-off. No, that's not what I meant. I meant on principle, there's nothing wrong with a spin-off. And you're being a facetious asshole.
Starting point is 02:11:50 Well, fair enough. Welcome to the podcast. But I get the same feeling from this that I got from Operation Rackin' City. Like, Mercenaries 3D was great. It was tons of fun. Whether you like it or not, it would be a great spin-off. It's good to feel like Mercenaries.
Starting point is 02:12:01 Exactly. Stuff like Kingdom Hearts Dream Drop Distance. That's a great spin-off. Is it? I don't even know. Great spin-offs exist. And so until we find out whether this is by a shite developer or not, I'm open to it being a cool action game.
Starting point is 02:12:14 Well, it's not good that the first article we found is seven things that are shitty about the game. A, that's not what the article was. It was. It looked like it. I read that article. It wasn't. Trust me, I read that article.
Starting point is 02:12:24 OK. Because I saw it, too. And there's at least three things that they were asked to go. No, there were negatives in there. Liam, I'm sorry. It's not to dismiss you, but my disdain for this entire idea cannot be contained. I think Revengeance is pretty cool.
Starting point is 02:12:38 It is. It's fantastic. It's amazing. Good thing it's a mainline game. Then Ghost Babel's a better example, I guess. Yeah, all right. And Ghost Babel. Yeah, Ghost Babel.
Starting point is 02:12:48 Ghost Babel's a mainline game, too. Acid, man. It's a dream scenario. Acid's a fucking spin-off. It's a VR mission. Man, Acid is the spin-offist. Has there ever this hyper non-canonical card-based? What's next?
Starting point is 02:13:07 Exist, Archive. It's basically Valkyrie profile 3. I'll just let Liam take it away. You want Valkyrie profile 3? That's Valkyrie profile 3. I don't even know. It's Valkyrie profile 3. Nibble on Velesty.
Starting point is 02:13:16 Another game from Spike Chunsoft couldn't read the name. Wow, way to go n4g.com. Way to be professional. This is a forum post. This is a forum post? Oh, you should take him out to get a good write-up. Let's just say that's Danganronpa 3. I just needed a list.
Starting point is 02:13:30 Let's just say that's Danganronpa 3. Dangan, sure. Or whatever. Because this is actually missing games. Dude, Black Ops 3. Yo, Danganronpa 3. Japan loves it. They do.
Starting point is 02:13:40 What a trick. Danganronpa 3 is cool. Yep, Danganronpa looks Dangan. Dragon Quest Heroes 2 parallates more of a hunting game than the last one. I look forward to the next Danganronpa visual novel. Yeah, definitely. Because they're really good at making those.
Starting point is 02:13:53 Yep. Dragon Quest Builders. It's like Minecraft with a story. It looks cool, actually. Yeah. That's all this guy wrote up. It's not there, but I wanted to talk about the fucking DOA character list for DOA Extreme 3.
Starting point is 02:14:08 Yeah, throw that in. And each time, when I think about it, it makes me... The first two characters on the list are the ones that are suspiciously 18. Yeah. How about that? And no Tina. No Tina to be seen.
Starting point is 02:14:19 No Tina. Tina was last, if I'm not mistaken. It's fucking shut up. I hate this country. Oh, I know Tina. What's her name? The new girl. Mila.
Starting point is 02:14:28 Mila was last. No, Mila was not even added. She was last. She was not even added. I thought... Someone showed... Japan. No, she was in the votes, but she was last.
Starting point is 02:14:35 Someone showed me a screenshot of her in the volleyball thing. Mila? Yeah. That's not right. Dude, she's not in the game. It's not again. They confirmed the final list.
Starting point is 02:14:44 They confirmed the roster. She's not in the game. There's a list of the all the victims hanging out. They're all like, no. That might have just been a bikini costume from the fighting game. Yeah, exactly. Because there are a bunch of bikini costumes.
Starting point is 02:14:54 But I'm like super pissed about that. That's like Chun-Li not being in the game. The only other thing I want to say about TGS is I was looking at the new summer lesson trailer and it's like, that looks cool. It's so weird how the blonde girl has way better lip syncing than the Japanese girl. Like maybe just because she came second,
Starting point is 02:15:15 but it's nowhere near as good. And it's awkward because the Japanese girl has mouth flaps. That's what the audience wants. They want their girls with their mouth flaps. I think it's going to be really interesting when they localize that game. Because when you look at the plot lines, as far as we've seen, with teaching English to one girl
Starting point is 02:15:37 and Japanese to another girl, it's like when they're going to have to localize that, that's going to be weird. It is. They can actually localize it. There was a good hands-on with it that said it was really good. And this is the first VR game that felt fleshed out where you'd get close to characters,
Starting point is 02:15:54 not even in any way. But they said just getting close to them was enough to raise the feeling of tension and stuff. So that's why I think the whole mouth flap thing is going to be a huge deal, because it's like with one job. No, we'll see where that goes. Exactly.
Starting point is 02:16:11 You're talking to a girl. Hey, you know what? If you really love her, you can look past her mouth flaps. Yeah, exactly. I know for a fact, if your love is true, Kingdom Hearts showed that tech off successfully. Oh yeah. Kingdom Hearts doesn't even use it for every scene.
Starting point is 02:16:24 That's what's infuriating about that mouth tech. There's mouth flaps and that super amazing tech. I can use it. It's so good. I was reading an article and like Harada said, we want to add a bunch of more characters. We want to add dudes in the summer lesson. Dude, totally.
Starting point is 02:16:37 That'd be the best. That'd be awesome, man. Now everyone can creep. Yo, bro, I want to learn Japanese. You going to help me out? Yeah. Speaking of PlayStation VR. Yeah, bring over some beers and some GameCube to see what.
Starting point is 02:16:47 They just snuck in that PlayStation VR. The DOA extreme as well. That's like weird because I don't know what perspective that game has played in anymore. You know what, put that on Tecmo's list of killers because I forgot to list that one earlier. After our lesson, it's time for some Netflix and chill, bro. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:17:04 Oh, you're right. You know, wait, this isn't what you thought is. The funniest VR thing I saw coming out of this is they were like, hey, you can fight a boss from Final Fantasy 14 in VR and every single read up that I, sorry, write up was like, that was terrible. Well, that was unplayable. It made no sense.
Starting point is 02:17:22 I guess it was cool. Didn't they say it wasn't actually going to be like influenced in the game? Hell no. Like it was just a demo for testing. How would you ever play that game from a first person perspective? It's impossible.
Starting point is 02:17:32 It's like, we wanted to show you, but. Shut up. I want to teach Ultimate Weapon Japanese. I was hoping to see some more VR games, though, on Sony's stage, since that was the only stage. No, they can't show up with Summer Lesson there. They'll get blown out of the water. Stop the country.
Starting point is 02:17:51 What? They can't show up with Summer Lesson. They did. Summer Lesson was on stage. No, that's my point. Like Summer Lesson just dominates the game. Oh, you're saying it would have dominated, though. It's like, you have no chance.
Starting point is 02:18:02 Sure. You have to go to a show that Summer Lesson mysterious like this. You know that thing where the Emperor of Japan is like, you can't release Dragon Quest on a weekday? Yeah, that's the same thing. It's like, you can't really Summer Lesson, except to me. Yeah, exactly.
Starting point is 02:18:18 I just need it right now. During TGS, there was a Capcom stream that was showing off a lot of Karen footage and stuff. No Shaheen. And I just want to make a hilarious observation. No Shaheen because he's not in the game. Yeah. Fucking Japanese streamed Capcom team hates Rashid.
Starting point is 02:18:40 No love. What do you mean by that? No love. Let's go over the new characters. Let's show off all the cool stuff in this new build. That character, Sleight of Green, flies right past Rashid and goes straight to Mika and Vega and Chun-Li and Kami and then backed over to Karen.
Starting point is 02:18:59 And that's it. Fuck. Wait a sad bag, your own announcement, guys. In the middle of this trade show had the exclusive rights on Rashid Gameplay. Like, wait a show through colors about this character and how you feel. She looks great.
Starting point is 02:19:19 He does. And casual racism is an aspect of Street Fighter that we mustn't stop. I will always be there. It's part of all of us. Even though they worked hard for us. It's not stereotyping. It's predictability.
Starting point is 02:19:30 Yeah, exactly. There's some other stuff that's not on that list that I'll just Oh, man, we're going to run. Metal Gear Online footage and gameplay. Dude, you can bounce bullets when you're playing as Ocelot. And you don't even have to think about it. Just you know they're behind that thing, so shoot at the metal over there and it'll auto bounce.
Starting point is 02:19:50 Can I play as Miller? No, not yet. With an arm and a leg? Well, he's pretty good with a guy. I want that. I want that tech. Persona 5, delayed until never. God damn it.
Starting point is 02:20:01 So delayed until summer next year. Sorry, next year. Probably fall of next year for us. Probably. Show off a new trailer. Damn. Amazing. It's OK that you delayed it.
Starting point is 02:20:11 Yeah. You hurt me, but I love you. Take your time, boys. Oh, boy. Star Fox delayed. Well, that's yeah. Yeah, that's on here too. So Star Fox delayed.
Starting point is 02:20:21 Because now we can get to the rest of the normal news if that's it. I'm wondering if that's it. Because yeah, this post you had was really heavy. We're going to miss some stuff. I know. But there's a lot that is like stuff after teaching us. Well, what's our normal news?
Starting point is 02:20:36 All right, well, Star Fox got delayed to Q-Quarter One 2016, so whatever. It's continuing the year of nothing. So JoJo Eisenhower. Make your own Star Fox and Mario Maker. JoJo Eisenhower has no paid DLC whatsoever. Which is like, dudes, way to make every single change necessary to make this fucking awesome video.
Starting point is 02:20:56 Now if we decide to do a video about it, we can't be as wrong as we were last time. I'm so excited. Those showing off. Did you play the demo yet? No. Oh, it's super good. I thought you liked JoJo.
Starting point is 02:21:06 So there's two stages they showed you in the trailer, which are like, these only work now that the game is in 3D. One of them is the rooftops of Cairo. And the other one is the Dolphin City Prison, whatever. The prison from part six, where the girls are locked up. And it's like, it's the whole building and like the full rooftop thing. And you have multiple layers and floors and stairs and shit.
Starting point is 02:21:29 And it's like, this is a stage. This is the time where that thing happened with the thing. Looks great. Weather reports in it. Looks fucking cool. Shame you hate JoJo. And yeah, that's probably misses his old JoJo. There you go.
Starting point is 02:21:42 And that is really nice to know that there's no paid DLC. Fucking just drop those characters in one by one. If you saved up, I hope you're saving up your money. You're $150 for your Elite X-Bong controller coming out on October 27th. Oh, get that. It's such a cool controller. It's still high, but that's the price you're selling.
Starting point is 02:22:01 I have two Steam controllers coming now. I'm wondering what the Canadian price is going to be. Oh, god, wait. Yeah, $500. So here's the thing. I've spent more than that on an arcade stick easily. Yeah, absolutely. So the question is, is this going
Starting point is 02:22:12 to have that level of functionality? Guess what, guys? Because it has buttons back there and shit. Because it has more buttons back there. Guys, you don't want to take your fingers off. Do not. I am getting one. You can touch it.
Starting point is 02:22:27 No, I just want one. Matt wants one, though. OK, yeah. I need, like, I got Steam controllers jump to all the back. I got this thing coming in. I got a no. I got a no? Yeah, for sure.
Starting point is 02:22:36 Like, I don't disagree. It's part of our job. Yep. They announced the Terminator was going to be in 2K16WEE earlier, but now it's gone. There's some action footage there. Not much. It's just the intro, but he's there.
Starting point is 02:22:46 He's a Terminator. Well, it's Terminator 1 Arnold versus Terminator 2 Arnold. And one's, I guess, just in underwear. Yeah, Naked Man. He should be naked. And then the other one is on the bike with the jacket. And like, fuck me. Like, the Arnold from Terminator 1
Starting point is 02:23:01 looks exactly like him. It's crazy. And I'm like, fuck. Well, how many versions of that 3D model do they have in existence now? I don't know. Like, plenty of them. Arnold, are we going to scan you again?
Starting point is 02:23:11 No, just get the source filmmaker version. That's fine. That actual trailer. Well, that one's probably engaged. All sorts of horrible shit right now. That actual trailer for W2K16 looks terrible. Like, the graphics, like, the faces look fine. They look great actually.
Starting point is 02:23:24 This one's all about Austin, whatever. It's all about Austin. Remember Austin? Yeah, the guy that's not in there? That's right. Fire Emblem Awakening and Xenoblade Chronicles joined Project Cross Zone 2. I wish they were in a different game.
Starting point is 02:23:38 And everybody does. Yeah. But that's still cool. You're never going to trick me. It looks good, though. Here's the problem. It's awesome that they got them. Wait, Sagata San Shiro is in the game, too.
Starting point is 02:23:47 There it is. And fucking Axels in it. That's the problem. After you go to the ultimate extreme of putting Sagata San Shiro in this game, like, and I didn't care then. Who can you possibly? The entire cast of Smash Brothers. No, it's not enough.
Starting point is 02:24:03 Snake. The Beastie Boys. I'll watch the cutscenes. I'll watch the banter between Sagata San Shiro and Felicia and fucking King. The entire Wu Tang clan has joined Project Cross Zone 2. OK. And they have ODV voicing himself.
Starting point is 02:24:20 He's there. Everybody's there. Some title of the game is Project Cross Zone 2. Fool me twice. Yeah. No, you can't fool me, man. Like, it's such a shitty situation, because, like, fans lobbied super hard for the first one.
Starting point is 02:24:35 It does suck. And the first one's so all right. The super best friends could be announced for that game. And he would still be quality. No, I don't know. No, he's totally right. He's totally right. He'd still be quality.
Starting point is 02:24:48 But if they put us in the game, I wouldn't buy it. Raging Zubas in the game, man. No, I don't know. There's nothing. Like, I can't. You can't. There's literally nothing. Even my most favorite things in the world.
Starting point is 02:25:02 God doesn't listen. I don't care. Punish doesn't. I don't care. There's nothing you could do to make me want this game. Because you're going to have the moment where you're like, oh, yeah, it's the character. I'm like, yeah, this is fun.
Starting point is 02:25:10 They appear once in 500 hours, man. There it is. There it is. That the fun died. All right. Like, I do it. It's sour, because the second game is going to sell way, way worse. And then it's going to make a bad impression.
Starting point is 02:25:26 And it's like, no, we still want stuff to get localized. And I feel sad, because Harada, you were right. Like, we should get these types of games by default. Yeah, exactly. But fuck. This is not the one. I'm glad Digimon's coming across.
Starting point is 02:25:39 All I wanted was to get to Dig Dug Guy in Namco X Capcom. But it ties us there, man. That's all I wanted. And you read the same thing. All you wanted to do was see Mega Man. Just do it. And we failed. We failed.
Starting point is 02:25:54 We couldn't do it. Dig Dug Guy. Literally, when are we getting to the fireworks factory, the game? Or yeah, yeah. Or even Captain Commando. Like, I just show me my heroes. Yeah. I don't care if Dean or Lucia or Carlos Miyamoto are in it.
Starting point is 02:26:11 It's like, no, it's still not enough to make me do it. Dean and Carlos. I was like a duo team. Damn, there's a phone. I would spend, like, irresponsible money on a Dig Dug game with that version of the game. Absolutely. I totally agree.
Starting point is 02:26:24 I totally agree. Nightwish, Matrix, Matrix and Bob announced her cross-boring. Be seen, yeah. Well, as you guys would say, a Cyber Six, a Cyber Six in Nightwish. Everybody, it doesn't matter. And it sucks, because I want it to matter. I'm a man of finance and project across so too. Stegosaurus.
Starting point is 02:26:52 Shokai the dentist. H2O. And Bon Bon. Know what I'm saying? Confirmed. We got to know what you said. We got my man powder. The champion.
Starting point is 02:27:04 All right. No, we need to edit a project cross-zone trailer to put that in the middle. Willie, there's your homework. We got a lot of crowdfunding things going on. The biggest one is one that got my email on the way over. Well, the biggest in terms of how much money they're asking for? The biggest in terms of like a scope and change to crowdfunding
Starting point is 02:27:24 and that it's Kickstarter just changed its company into a different kind of company. What did they do? This is some kind of weird beneficent, I don't know. I don't know what it is. I don't know what you're talking about. They changed it from a corporation into something else. Some kind of for-profit charity.
Starting point is 02:27:40 Whoa. Like, like it. There are legal reasons why they did that. It happened on the way over here. Kickstarter reincorporates as public benefit corporation. I'll read this. Yeah, because they're not allowed to, you can't, it's not a go fund me.
Starting point is 02:27:55 You can't just fund someone's life. No, no, no. I don't know. It means that they're legally obliged to weigh the impact of the decisions on society. Whoa. Is this Outer Heaven? Okay, so if the fourth Reich has a Kickstarter.
Starting point is 02:28:12 Yeah, they remain for-profit, but they spelled out a specific list of values and commitments it makes in addition to benefiting its shareholders. Among these commitments, it'll remain committed to the arts and culture. It won't sell information to third parties. It will give 5% of annual post-tax profits
Starting point is 02:28:29 to arts education and organizations fighting inequality. It will not use loopholes or other esoteric, but legal tax management strategies to reduce its tax burden. That was just a couple amongst its things that it swore to. You don't want to support the NSA Kickstarter? Apparently that designation as a public benefit corporation
Starting point is 02:28:46 is recent, and that's not, like in the general scheme, it didn't exist until just recently. Only a handful of corporations are like that, including Amtrak. It's really weird. It means they cannot be sued by shareholders for making a decision that costs its money. Ooh, interesting.
Starting point is 02:29:05 That's really interesting. That's one of the main things, yeah. Because Kickstarter's racket is high level and foolproof at this point. Yeah, it's all about, whatever you see things like that. It seems like it's only good for you. It's all about liability, you know. That's all it overchanges, really.
Starting point is 02:29:18 It's all about real aid. But it sounds nice, doesn't it? Public benefit company, it's for you. Well, they're actually giving 5% of their money to schools and stuff. Even if the rest is a bunch of fucking cutthroat, fucking shady business garbage, they're still giving money to part of their profits
Starting point is 02:29:34 and charities, so fuck it, it's plus for everybody. How much money would the Fourth Reich ask for? Anyway, whatever. Enough to build mechs. Is there a stretch gold wrecking to get back a fourth of my human beingness now? Yeah. Okay, all right, that's fine.
Starting point is 02:29:49 What's going on? I can't, I can't, I can't do anything. All right, all right, give me a clean cut, say it, and then we'll see what happens. That's like, the problem with the Fourth Reich Kickstarter is they're like, okay, no Jewish money. And then they fail. So it fails, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, okay.
Starting point is 02:30:07 Aw, damn. That's what's keeping them from making those goals, right? Yeah, okay, so how do we get the, what did we learn from our failed Kickstarter? And here's how you should adjust it next time. What demographics do have a lot of disposable income and politically active and conservative and would be, ah, hmm, I don't think
Starting point is 02:30:29 this Kickstarter is gonna make it. It should go for the go-go. Early bird-stolen gold teeth kick, like fucking tear. No. Is this a sleepy cast? Oh, yeah. All right. Don't kickstart your neo-Nazi endeavors,
Starting point is 02:30:45 it won't work unless you're sure it'll work. So let's, we're gonna, you know how it is, here's how we'll talk about these things. We'll talk about these crowdfunding campaigns in order of least amount of money requested to most. All right, so that seems fair. So we'll start with Allison Road. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:31:02 It has a Kickstarter, it's asking for 250,000 euro. Which is about $400,000. 250,000 euro? Yeah. Isn't that like $400,000? Honestly? For us? Yeah.
Starting point is 02:31:17 I think it's like $400,000. Anyway, I chipped in for that because I watched the 14 minute gameplay demo. Allison Road is like a heavily PT inspired. They're like, are you pissed that PT got canceled for no reason? It's not PT, it's totally PT. Yeah, he's.
Starting point is 02:31:33 The guy in the video's kind of. Is it as good? The guy in the video's good. The demo of it looked amazing. Because PT is quite special. I'd love for something. This isn't a London flat it takes place in. The PT prototype would be the ultimate to me.
Starting point is 02:31:47 But like, the guy that made this is like, everyone else made the comparison to PT. I was kind of just doing the thing, but I'll take it. Yeah, okay. And it runs on a real engine foreign does also as well. Like PT looked almost photorealistic. That's the saddest thing about these games. You should look up the 14 minute gameplay demo
Starting point is 02:32:03 because it's one of those things that's subtle. It's scary, is it? It's pretty scary. I think. Uh-oh. Uh-oh. Uh-oh. The thing that be alerts sounding.
Starting point is 02:32:12 I don't think I could buck, but I don't just. I think the really sad thing. Yeah, exactly. About all these games inspired by PT is, is that like you're being inspired by the trailer. Like. PT was on to something. That was the trailer for a giant massive game.
Starting point is 02:32:25 Game, yeah. Like, but you're, you're, everyone's being hung up on the trailer. Cause that's what we got. At best you'd play the prologue. Like that was going to be a full blown and explore the city sounding the whole game. Cause then they canceled it.
Starting point is 02:32:38 Like, and that's the game you should all be striving to. That's hard. But you don't know. Yeah. Stretch goals, get Norman Reedus in the game. Yeah. But yeah, I chipped in some money for that cause I, like, I was blown away by the game.
Starting point is 02:32:50 I should probably just a couple parts. Very, very good tiers. Like $50 gets you like everything. That's good. A code on. A code on every console and PC. I love the idea of Liam like pulling out his wallet and going like, all right, here's some money.
Starting point is 02:33:03 But wait a minute. How scary are we talking? Not too spooky, right? Even when you're pulling the money back. Exactly. And then a guy turns around to take your money. It's a skeleton. It's too spooky.
Starting point is 02:33:14 Can't. Yeah, exactly. Where does it fall between like, Zombieland and Halloween? No, no. Grabbed by Goolies? Hey, grabbed by the Goolies scary? No money for skeletons.
Starting point is 02:33:26 But yeah, looks good. Don't give your skeletons money. Keep them locked away. How about like House of Horses, Spooky's House of Stubbscares? Yeah, where's that in there? Run around that level, yeah, all right. It's too scary.
Starting point is 02:33:36 All these skeletons are going not scary. These House of Stubbscares is terrifying. Oh, fucking great, man. Fucking terrifying. Yeah, I did some work on that. What a good ass name. We've got the next one up is Them's Fightin' Herds on Indiegogo.
Starting point is 02:33:51 Yeah. So Pat, how much money have you taken there? I saw the two clips they put out like a while ago and like that Skullgirl's engine is good for everything. Yeah. Because it looks good. It's actually good when you put lots of animation into the Skullgirl's engine.
Starting point is 02:34:06 That's correct. I was more blown away by the music. It's just what that engine is. The music's really good. Did you see the music thing? Oh yeah, the dynamic music thing. That looked awesome. Yeah, like I brought that up like a couple weeks ago.
Starting point is 02:34:15 Like it's fucking cool. Yeah, I remember. Is it one of the five characters? They're going... Oh, character? I don't know. But they're going... Because I only saw five.
Starting point is 02:34:22 They're going for 436K. On Indiegogo, right? Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. And it's on Indiegogo, yeah. Yeah. And it's actually like... That's a lot. So, Woollie's checking on his computer.
Starting point is 02:34:34 But that's as much as it would be. But it's the full game. It's not like Skullgirls where you're keeping Skullgirls growing. Yeah. It's like this is the game that's being... It has to be. It's all to a really good start. This only just started today.
Starting point is 02:34:46 Well, not in 10 hours. Yeah, I didn't even see that there were a lot of characters. It'd be really good to see Woollie like pay... Like, we usually don't have a computer. He paid for the highest tier gift in the game. Scroll up a little. There it is. There we paid for it.
Starting point is 02:34:56 Now, scroll up a little through the pictures until you get to like a little village. A little village. Down down. You have the story mode. Yeah. Yeah. The visual lobby.
Starting point is 02:35:05 The lobby for multiplayer. So, that's fucking awesome. It's Exert. Yeah, no, it's sick. Exert has that same thing. It's great. I'm glad they're doing that. It costs money, but it's great.
Starting point is 02:35:16 Yeah. Yeah, I don't know what the full character count was. And I don't think... I think they showed off five or six characters. They showed off a couple, but you know, there might be more than that. There's an alpaca. Yeah, six at least.
Starting point is 02:35:27 I thought it was a llama. Well, it's, you know... Oh, wait, hang on. Don't go up to that. Yeah, I think so. That paragraph right there. You'll be surprised by the notion... Yeah, okay, so it seems like there's gonna be more, but...
Starting point is 02:35:39 These are the ones they're showing right now. Looks really cool. Looks like a thing. And, yeah, the video has... It looks super good. It looks better than the first version of the game. Absolutely. Like, that was just kind of...
Starting point is 02:35:50 Oh, they stepped it up, totally. And what's her name? Lauren Faust? Yes. Yeah, she's in the preview video. She's like, hey, I'm the character designer behind, whatever, My Little Pony. Pause.
Starting point is 02:36:03 But anyway, you know, like... Well, the background on that is that fighting is magic was what they were doing beforehand. They were using all the characters. And then Asgard was like, no, you fuck off. And Lauren Faust was like, oh, that sucks. I'll draw you new characters. Shout outs to, well, the artist and main six
Starting point is 02:36:19 for retweeting that picture of me holding Zubaz colored. Yeah, yeah. Fucking animals. I like that. You want to get the Zubaz colors, dude? I don't even know who drew that. It's great. This is Willy's second shot at bid for power.
Starting point is 02:36:32 Yeah, exactly. So there's not your first time at the rodeo. No, no, low. Very low. After a pull. Liam, where'd you get that cowboy hat? It's implied. Them spurs coming out of your ankles.
Starting point is 02:36:47 And then lastly, there's the retro VGC console, which is a... Z stands for console, actually. Yes, that's correct. Just making sure. Thank you. You're right. The retro VGC, being put together by the guys that actually have retro magazine that started that,
Starting point is 02:37:07 I believe where they found the old Jaguars. That console, the retro of their future. They found the old Jaguars. They found the old Jaguars. They bought rights to the molds, and they bought the molds themselves, exactly. So they're making this new retro-style machine that basically is meant to play new games.
Starting point is 02:37:28 On cartridges. On cartridges. OK, so this is not like a retro-style emulation box, where you're like, hey, just make it legal. You had one job. You fucks. No, this is intended to play new retro-style games. Oh, that'd be cool.
Starting point is 02:37:44 You look at their lineup, and they've got some games like Read Only Memories. Way forward seems to be just waiting on it passing, and then they're going to put Mighty Switch Force and Shantay and stuff on it. They are looking for $1.95 million. And it's not exactly screaming away, because the price of the console is exorbitant.
Starting point is 02:38:10 It's $299 US dollars. So yeah, you've got the early bird, which, by the way, is $400 Canadian dollars. Yeah, there's the early bird purchase at $299. That's $50 less than PS4. Then you got your personalized $349. Oh, yeah, there's the gray grid, which is tuned to make you look the best.
Starting point is 02:38:30 Oh, I love that grid. It's not a good grid. I don't know why. But yeah, so the idea of cartridges is very cool, and I like the idea. Oh, yeah, that's why Nintendo is going back to them for their next console. If you scroll down, by the way, they
Starting point is 02:38:45 have a list of software that is currently used for them. And they have some cool games. I'm sure when you'll see the first one, you'll be like, not that one, but the first one is the list. Shalvalet. No, it's Shanta. There's Shanta.
Starting point is 02:38:56 You're not list. Down, down, you're not the list. Bam, you passed it. Gunlord, first game. Yeah, Gunlord. Sorry, sorry, I can't believe you should say bow. Bow, yeah, that's true. Gunlord, that's fine.
Starting point is 02:39:07 But they have some cool games, like Gunlord's Amazing, and Reed Only Memories looks good. Night's Chance looks really cool. You remember like Vegas Stakes and stuff? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Night's Chance is a medieval fantasy-themed casino game, which is like, OK, people still make casino games? Like what?
Starting point is 02:39:23 The preview video is interesting, because it just shows the console, and then games going into it and playing. Yeah. And that's all you need, really. Yeah, exactly. But yeah, 1.9 mil is a lot. That's not going to make it.
Starting point is 02:39:34 That's my guess. Oh, exactly. I think they're going to have to pull back and give you a second swing or something. Like, where's the breakdown? That's one of its big games. I know, it's like, you're so genuine when you say that, and you're so sad.
Starting point is 02:39:49 Because I want everything. The controller looks fine. Cool controllers. The controller looks great. I like the blue. The controller looks good. So I think they're borrowing, or like, they have the same controller mold as another company,
Starting point is 02:40:00 because you can get that same controller for the Wii U, and it's shit. The fortunate thing is you can plug in any old USB controller to this thing, or you can just plug in a Genesis pad or whatever you want. Yeah, a Genesis pad. If ever you get one of these smaller retro-style consoles, and you hold the controller, and the controller is
Starting point is 02:40:19 by the Pac-Man, by the way. Yeah, well, that's right. And the controller actually feels good. Drop it immediately, because the AID syringes are going to come stab you soon, because these things aren't allowed to be good controllers. They're not allowed. So ultimately, that's my takeaway
Starting point is 02:40:34 is that I really like what they're trying to do, but I think it's just too much money. Yeah, I think it's really, really cool. And I put the money in, because I just would love a mighty SwitchForce cartridge, but I do not think it's going to pass. And it's a bummer, because it looks cool, but they're asking like too much.
Starting point is 02:40:51 Well, yes, it's a novelty luxury item. And there's definitely, there's probably a point in there where they crunch the numbers, and it's like, that's where they got. That's where they're at. That's what they got to, you know? So I don't know if that's even flexible in any way, but. It's a bummer, because the reason it costs so much
Starting point is 02:41:06 is because they have a regular arm processor in there, which is the kind of thing you'd find in, like, not a super modern, like an Xbox One or PS4, but older stuff, like Game Boy. So they're rare to get. And like, DSs have arm processors and stuff. They have a modern hardware in there, but they also have an FPGA board, which I'm not 100% sure exactly how it works, but basically it's
Starting point is 02:41:29 got all the things it needs to have a bunch of classic style configurations. So if someone were to make a Genesis game nowadays, right? They should. The kind of, but like, you know, a hobbyist. You know the crazy hobbyists who still make Dreamcast games and stuff? Absolutely.
Starting point is 02:41:43 Someone made a Genesis game. They'd be able to print it on a cart, and you'd be able to pop it into this machine, and it would work, because it would know how to read a Genesis game. That said, it can still only support its own carts. Yeah. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 02:41:55 Because it's the shape of us. Stuff you could do is, like, if they could get whoever owns Mortal Kombat to say, yeah, you can reprint MK2 carts on this, then you could have MK2 on this. Yeah, but a WB would never say yes to that. No, exactly. Like, the viability is tough.
Starting point is 02:42:11 It's actually 6,500 people that look for it. 6,500 people? Because it's $300. OK. 300 kids is, yeah, I was just trying to figure out how many they need. They're looking at 6,500 people to pay $300 plus shipping. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:42:24 For this luxury novelty. And the pack-in title is not particularly impressive. It's Adventures of Tony Knight. Like, you're lucky, usually. It's just such a hard sell. This reminds me of, like, really expensive statues, where they print only 600, because they've done the math, and this is how many people are willing to spend a $500.
Starting point is 02:42:42 There's 600 weirdos out there on the planet. Well, the statues. So I'd say 600 to 1,000 people would might want to be able to pay that much, might want to be able to pay that much, and, like, that's asking for, like... I was thinking about it, like, a lot. And it's like, what's the magic number, right?
Starting point is 02:42:58 Like, $99, like, the Ouya showed, like, that's perfect. Granted, the Ouya was the first of its kind, so people were a lot more willing to jump in. And $100 was perfect. I think $150, you could swing it if they saw that the software was there. That's the top. And then $199, if they had some sort of killer app,
Starting point is 02:43:16 where you were like, wow, how do you have a game like that? I think, I think... But anything higher than that... I think in realistic terms, like, what we're ever likely to see, I think, no one above $150 is ever going to come close. Yeah, unless you have a killer. Especially when...
Starting point is 02:43:29 I don't think that's going to happen. And that's so unlikely. Especially when, like, your competition, unfortunately, is Android boxes. In the case of this one, like, they're not slating it that way, but that's what people are perceiving it as, so... Because it's not an Android box.
Starting point is 02:43:43 This is not... So here's the unfortunate thing, is that its competition is more or less entirely determined by its price, not anything that it can do. So its competition is the Wii U and the PS4 in some regions. Because now it's priced at $299. Same price as the Wii U, and PS4 is getting a price drop. That's a good point.
Starting point is 02:44:02 That's a good point, man. Like, fuck. PS4 comes bundled with The Last of Us. This comes bundled with Adventures of Tiny Knight. How much are your memories worth? My memories, they're worth nothing. I have them. Clockwork.
Starting point is 02:44:15 This game has new memories. I would gladly erase huge portions of my life for cash. I think that was an email question. Yeah, it was an email question. Yeah. Really cool device, but I think they're going to have to just regroup and figure something out,
Starting point is 02:44:28 because that price tag is not... Yeah, it's 6,500 people, I don't think, I don't think so. They're only at, like, 100-something people in two days? Well, we'll see. That's about right. I tell you what, like, some exclusive announcements would, like, blow that up. Yeah, well, I think, like, right now,
Starting point is 02:44:46 right now it seems like they're at a place with WaveFord, where, like, WaveFord's just waiting for it to pass, because they've said WaveFord's, like, they want to do it, but they're taking a hands-off approach or something, which I imagine is just, like, kind of keeping an eye on it. And it's like, yeah, if they could lock down the new, the most recent Shantae and the Mighty series,
Starting point is 02:45:05 then, yeah, I think there'd be people, because WaveFord does have a brick fan base. There'd be people who'd jump in, but, like... Get Yacht Club on that, too. And, yeah, Shovel Knight was one of the most requested games, and it's been absent. One of the other games in that list was, uh, games, but, like, Developers was a couple of guys
Starting point is 02:45:19 who made Intellivision games. I don't know them, but apparently they made some of the best Intellivision games, and they want to make games for this, so... I still barely know what an Intellivision is. It was up there with the Clico vision and shit, so... And anything with vision. Yeah, exactly.
Starting point is 02:45:32 It's all the Speccy to you. That Atari, Speccy fucking pre-my-life bullshit. We were talking about VR stuff and whatnot, and we didn't mention that there's gonna be a Ghost in the Shell VR experience that's being worked on. Oh, is there? Yeah, yeah, yeah, that actually sounds pretty cool.
Starting point is 02:45:47 I saw the new, uh, bit for the shooter, but... It's like... And, like, the Ghost in the Shell Internet is one thing that's like, you fucking should have some VR for that. Have that moment where you reach down with the move controllers to pull open the hatch of the tank, and then have Rumble go,
Starting point is 02:46:04 and then have your character's arms snap off, and then watch people have the horrible sensory experience of, my arms just... Oh, no, wait, I'm fine, I'm fine. Yeah. Send a person to your house to cut your arms off. Or just write Shotgun on a Tachikomo with Motoko. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:46:22 And, like, fucking get a glimpse of all that glory. Yeah. And then there's some movie shit going on. Blah, blah, blah, King Kong, Godzilla deals, et cetera. All this equals... Oh, man, stop. Pacific Rim 2 delayed indefinitely. Then updated with Guillermo del Toro saying,
Starting point is 02:46:40 nope, still working on it. Good. I love that update. I walked into the office, and I threatened to stab everyone, and they knew I was for real, so this is my name is Del Toro. No, no, no, no.
Starting point is 02:46:52 Dude. Hey, hey, hey. As fast as I can, as far as I know, we're still working on it. Hey, guys. In terms of, like, today, I was working on it. I get one more thing fucking cancel on me. I'm gonna cut you so bad.
Starting point is 02:47:04 I'm gonna cut you so bad. I wish I had cut you so bad. Yeah. Like, you already are a rich, accomplished director, and you still carry a switchblade with you. Yeah, good. It's good shit. The takeaway here is go watch Crimson Peak.
Starting point is 02:47:17 Go watch Crimson Peak. Oh, yeah. Legendary needs your money. Yeah, no, seriously. We want you to give Legendary your money. Apparently, I forgot what that guy's name is, but the guy in charge of CEO of Legendary, the fanboy guy.
Starting point is 02:47:28 Thomas Tall. Yeah, like, apparently a lot of people have problems with him, because it sounds like he takes credit for things that he's not involved with. Yeah, I wasn't sure how to read into that. It was a bit odd, and he seemed like a cool guy. So one of those things was like,
Starting point is 02:47:38 well, I own the company, so to be clear, it was, I did it. He's a huge fanboy that greenlights cool big fanboy projects, so you can be kind of a dick, but as long as you keep doing that, it's fine. The article went on to talk about
Starting point is 02:47:51 how there's a couple projects that he's like, he took the credit for after the fact, but doesn't take credit for the clunkers or something. These people exist. That's just called a business, man. And it's called a business, man. For fuck's sake, I do that. And I love, I love the fact that Zack Snyder
Starting point is 02:48:09 is saying that Batman versus Superman is not like those flavor of the week movies, like Ant-Man, a.k.a. a movie that's better than everything you've ever made. Yeah, like what is it? Is it a life changer? Am I gonna get richer by watching it? Yeah.
Starting point is 02:48:26 What's in the cube? I love the Ant-Man, the superman. Will my soul be enriched? No, exactly. Traditionally, when you- What's in the cube? Batman v Superman, what's in the cube? Traditionally, directors should not,
Starting point is 02:48:37 if you got to the center of Peter Molyneux's cube and it was a trailer for Batman versus Superman, that would have been the best. That would have been the actual best. Directors are supposed to carry themselves with some degree of professionalism or class, or you could be the guy that Rogan directed, Sucker Punch.
Starting point is 02:48:56 So, despite the fact that his movies aren't any good, I don't even think- I don't think they even make that much money. No. 300? 300 did well. The Immortals. The Sucker Punch do well.
Starting point is 02:49:09 They know, it's a huge failure. It was a huge failure by any and all metrics. So, you still get the feeling that everyone in Zack Snyder's vicinity tells him he's the greatest. Right? Dude, you're the best. Well, he's a producer now. He doesn't direct anymore,
Starting point is 02:49:25 he just puts the Snyder touch on things. People still don't like his movies. Dude, here's the thing, like making- His 300 was still cool and his eye was cool. Making adaptations of things you can do. The one thing he had total creative control of, which was writing, producing, and directing, was Sucker Punch.
Starting point is 02:49:45 And that movie- And boy was it. Yes. Yeah. So, what's up? Four great music videos in that movie. Yeah. Sorry to see those music videos.
Starting point is 02:49:55 They stole one of the pinnacle actual scenes of that movie from file Massey 13. Yeah, it's a train trailer. It's so blatant. Really? Shit. Go back and watch the train trailer like the first- No, no, no, I need to watch Sucker Punch.
Starting point is 02:50:08 No, the first or second, no. That's the right way. I know the trailer you're talking about, but we're lightning is jumping about. Go type in fucking Sucker Punch train fight into- The way it pulls into the train from a distance, it does the same shot. Like the whole thing.
Starting point is 02:50:22 It's crazy. I wanna watch the movie now. There's a slight- There's stuff to his avatar. No, just watch those sequences. Okay. All you need. No, watch the whole movie.
Starting point is 02:50:31 I'd rather watch Avatar over Sucker Punch. Oh, yeah? Yeah. Shit. Really? Yeah. Okay, battle. What?
Starting point is 02:50:39 Okay, I think you're crazy, man. I think you're super nuts. I am. Because when the fights were happening in those music videos, I was enjoying what I saw. At its lowest bar, at the lowest barrier for viewability, sometimes there are cute girls on the screen in Sucker Punch.
Starting point is 02:51:02 And they're terrible actresses and none of them are very attractive. At least they're not on Giant Samurai. At least they're not the cast of fucking Avatar. Yeah, but do you know what? When I'm watching Avatar the last airbender of the movie, I can think of the show and smile. No, that makes it worse.
Starting point is 02:51:17 That makes it worse. Yeah, but when I watch Sucker Punch, I can think of shooting my face off. Giant Samurai with Gatling Gun is fucking cool. Like- Yeah. Too bad it has nothing to do with the movie. No, it's just cool.
Starting point is 02:51:30 That's all I'm saying. And it's over in five minutes. But that's why I'm saying just cut the parts that are cool and look at those. I can fall asleep for an Avatar. The thing about Avatar that always gets- Is that a plus? The thing about the last airbender
Starting point is 02:51:42 that always gets me like worse. It's so baffling because it's Shemalon that directed it. He's an Indian guy. Why did you reverse the race of every character in that story? Well, we talked about this last week. Why? It's so crazy.
Starting point is 02:51:55 You made all the evil people Indian. Why? Yeah, there was an interview somewhere. A couple of people linked us to the same interview that's where he describes what he was doing. Why are there even white people in that movie? They're supposed to be like high on Chinese, Tibetan, Japanese, and fucking Inuit.
Starting point is 02:52:13 Makes me think of fucking Persona when they localized it and they changed his black. Mark? Mark, yeah. And they made Mark black. He's black. And it was like- And it was like, wait, Mark, you weren't black before?
Starting point is 02:52:24 Yeah, I was. I'm black now. So did you know, Willie, that if you ever make a friend to Japan that's like a wacky, kooky guy, if he gets on a plane and comes over here, he will transmogrify- Yes. On the trip.
Starting point is 02:52:36 Into a fucking Fresh Prince character. His race is region-long. Yeah, that's correct. There's a slight update to this original story. It means that if you're a crybaby, little bully, and you want to call people out and say, you're better than you, then you throw down the gauntlet.
Starting point is 02:52:52 You open the gates. So when Sebastian Stan, the actor who is the winter soldier, responded to this and said, you know what, I'm not really down for all this, but I mean, you can decry that, yeah, you know, we try new things, or you can continue trying to eat better Nolan, Christopher Nolan movies, up to you.
Starting point is 02:53:16 Just breathe it in. Yeah. Okay, so DC and Marvel didn't get along for long times with the rival companies, but the movie people have always been really polite. This needs to end. We need- We need-
Starting point is 02:53:28 We need fights at movie premier. Yes. Like, I want- Bring back the WCW era. I want to see Chris Evans punch whatever Superman's name is in the face at a movie premiere. I want to see it. In Captain America costume.
Starting point is 02:53:42 In Captain America costume. Yeah, he shows up and you're like, what a dork. And he just starts fighting everyone. And they start playing a new Captain America movie instead. Then fucking, then fucking Matt Damon's there. You pay for one movie. He's doing autographs. And he's protecting Ben Affleck.
Starting point is 02:53:56 You pay for one movie. But they switch it up on you because you're in a rogue theater. Yeah, exactly. You know what the old saying is, that the loudest person in the world- Theater without a country. Theater without a country.
Starting point is 02:54:05 Theater without nation. Without border government. All for revenge. They say that the loudest person in the room is the most cowardly. Zack Snyder is very loud. What are you implying? That Zack Snyder is very loud.
Starting point is 02:54:17 Okay, if you want to write in and tell us about which side of the war. And tell us which one of us is the largest coward. It's me. You can write that and send it in to suit. I just mean that like Zack Snyder will be right. Save this type of thing every month. Same.
Starting point is 02:54:33 Yeah, there you go. Super Snyder is a shit cast at Sucker Punch. Write in and tell us about how shit Zack Snyder is at Sucker Punch. And not him as a person. He's probably a nice guy. Dot com. I don't think he is.
Starting point is 02:54:45 I don't know. His movie. He's full of himself and is not good at making movies. God, the Immortals sucked. He only directed that one? No, he didn't. No, he directed 300, he directed Watchmen. Oh, he had nothing to do with Immortals?
Starting point is 02:54:57 No, Immortals produced it. Oh, he produced it. He's got a... No, no, no. Not even? Nothing. Producers was 300 produced Immortals, but not Zack Snyder.
Starting point is 02:55:06 Oh, okay. Zack Snyder produced 300 Rise of an Empire, which is also a shitty awful movie that Immortals watched. He dodged that bullet. Wow. He did not touch the bullet. It's known as a stink field. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:55:18 Not like an AT field. Well, like, because it's syncopious. Syncopious is his company, right? No, that's completely wrong. Shit, what's his company name again? That's supposed to be from Nolan. Yeah, what's his company name? It's ShitfuckingBurgers, Incorporated.
Starting point is 02:55:30 I don't know. No, it's Boyd, who I want to be Michael Bay when I grew up. Yeah, Incorporated, you know what it is. Anyway, the point I'm getting at is that if you ever have an emotion that you need your character to convey... Michael Bay is a fucking genius. ...tell them to convey it by acting.
Starting point is 02:55:46 Just play the appropriate pop song with lyrics in your movie. Make sure the lyrics are there. It's the lyrics and almost lyrics. Evanescence is still a powerful tool. If in the right hand. Yeah, you know, that's why Daredevil with Jennifer Garner and Mr. Affleck was such a... Well, not driven by Zack Snyder would not surprise me
Starting point is 02:56:07 if it was. It was what inspired him to start his new reign of terror. Punish it 2004 as well. Thomas Jaylin. All right. He, wait, what? He directed that? No, but it has music videos that play over emotions.
Starting point is 02:56:19 So when we got emails wise... Let's take one from Alex. Zack Snyder. You can't escape. He wants to know... Do you have a favorite kind of cheat code or tilt command kind of thing that stands out to you? Absolutely.
Starting point is 02:56:35 If you typed in the Godmode code from Doom in Heretic, you would explode and die. I'm a big fan. I'm a big fan of picking up the second player controller in DMC three and just taking control of Virgil or doppelganger picking up the second controller in Duck Hunt and controlling the duck. There you go.
Starting point is 02:56:53 That one's fucking nice. That's a good one too. I really liked one in Turok too, that after you beat Turok to like the single player campaign, you can put in a code that says beware oblivion is coming. You type that all in and that's a send up to the sequel, which is called Shadow of Oblivion. And what we would do is give you every weapon,
Starting point is 02:57:10 infinite ammo and there's Turok too has so many weapons. It was just a new game plus. Cause you get to go through the first weapons you can possibly have. It was fucking sick. That's a good shit. The Starcraft codes always jumped my tune, like Black Sheep Wall and Power of War.
Starting point is 02:57:23 Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure. For some reason that and Sims 2's codes, that they just jumped ahead. Age of Empires 1 where you can fucking pull up in a Corvette. Yeah. Even the fucking Bronze Age and it's just like, boy. Age of Mythologies where you get the Canada Bear and the car and shit.
Starting point is 02:57:40 That was good. Fucking Star Wars Rogue Squadron 2. That was the one. That was the one. There's just so many cheats in that game. Oh yeah. You want to play in a car? You want to drive a car around in space?
Starting point is 02:57:50 Drive a car around in space. You can get an old mobile and drive around in space. It was Millennium Falcon and Battle for Naboo I think or Rogue Squadron. God, I didn't play Battle for Naboo. You could get the Naboo Fighter. Got one from... One from David and he wants to know.
Starting point is 02:58:03 Naboo. Yeah, and I'm like, you know, fair enough, David. I was just wondering if you guys like Star Wars. Yeah. I like Star Wars. I know my friends and I are direct fans. We've just about every comic, watched every movie and every episode of the TV show, played most of the games.
Starting point is 02:58:18 As a whole, it's impacted our lives in a huge way and we discuss it all the time. I only hear you guys talk about Star Wars when you're complaining about Force Unleashed or that time you played Masters of Terrorist Kasai. Do you not talk about it often because you're not that huge fans? We do not talk about it often.
Starting point is 02:58:32 We're not that huge fans. I think it's because we all watched or experienced Star Wars separate from each other. We never like... There's no communal... And it was just childhood to watch those three movies and that was it. As close as a guess is like we go Star Wars
Starting point is 02:58:43 and me at least, I'm sure at least some of you, Star Wars and Star Wars games and other than that, I don't touch anything else. I absolutely adore those first three movies. I think they're the fucking pinnacle of science fantasy, space opera shit. Those other three movies. They're really good too.
Starting point is 02:58:59 And I don't really care for the comics or the side TV except for that Clone Wars thing, that was good. And the games, like for me, it's like the co-tours and the Jedi Knight series. Some of them are fantastic, like Rogue Squadron and those are the ones. Rogue Squadron and Rogue Zero are two of my favorites. Jedi Kiddies.
Starting point is 02:59:14 The Outcast is like one of the best games of all time. It's really good, it's so good. It's really good. Exactly. I'm as invested in the franchise as it is for me to continue to care about it, you know? Like any more, and it would be like, this is too much, I don't, you know, whatever.
Starting point is 02:59:30 But I keep it at enough of a distance that I'm like, oh, that looks cool. I want in on that. You'll look at that Darth Maul Kabuki statue. Yeah, exactly. And I'm super excited for the new movie. And on a basic level, I mean, it's about wizards that use laser swords.
Starting point is 02:59:43 I mean, come on, that's cool ass shit. It's cool ass shit. That's it. How about you, Lam? What's your Star Wars? I like it. Rogue Squadron is the best. He wears his Phantom Menace t-shirt sometimes.
Starting point is 02:59:52 All the time. I got it when I grew up. It's been a lot of good ass Star Wars games. I hope we can get some new good ass Star Wars games. I hope. I really want a new pod racing game. I don't. You can't beat the first one.
Starting point is 03:00:04 Yeah, but it's good. Why even bother? It was good, though. I want a droid creation simulator. Specifically? Like, I want what the fuck was that evolution game called again? Spore.
Starting point is 03:00:20 Spore. Where you build a droid and give it AI. That'd be really fun. The first game. Maybe that's just me, Adam. You want the first actual video game I tested. Gadget and Gizmos. That's the game you wanted.
Starting point is 03:00:30 Oh, was that fucking Gizmos and Gadgets? The first actual video game, because I don't count Chapman, that I tested was Star Wars Lethal Alliance, where you play as the Tweet-Lack girl. She has a little droid friend. So Star Wars is like my first. Oh, that game should have been better than it was. You guys remember fucking show like Power Battles?
Starting point is 03:00:46 And the games were bad in different ways. That game should have been super good. The DS1 is OK, but it's also bad. It's like a bad PlayStation. Star Wars Episode 3 on GBA. It's fantastic. The DS1's even better. If you haven't played the DS1, it kicks its ass.
Starting point is 03:01:05 Still holding up for Darth Talon Gaiden. Oh, no, no. Or that Darth Maul character action game that got canceled. Or yeah, exactly. Yeah, Darth Maul walks out and he snaps his fingers, and I watch a sparkle shoot out. And you're like, what the fuck? He's back to life.
Starting point is 03:01:20 The wooly knows that in the footage, Darth Maul has no shirt, just like his fucking statue over there. It's like literally the coolest thing. Hey, you want more Darth Maul, go fucking launch King of Fighters again, all right? That's true. All right, Park is such a smoke piece of shit.
Starting point is 03:01:33 Adam Mooney is so good. Give him all the work. Just don't give him any lines. Oh, you gave him too many lines. You gave him one line. Now there's hockey in the movie. Good job, Toad. Harry says games obviously need ads
Starting point is 03:01:45 to attract an audience before release. What had the best leading up advertisement? Advertisement. Advertisement. I really like the original Ocarina of Time ad, where it's like, will thou swim or will this thou suck? And it had it in the font. Will you save the girl or fight like one?
Starting point is 03:02:05 Or something like that. That was the other commercial. Mortal Kombat commercials, especially like the kids running in the street. The revolution. Going Mortal Kombat down with this pussy street fighter shit. I have two answers, one for me and one for my adult me. My favorite thing was the Sega Scream ads.
Starting point is 03:02:25 It didn't matter what the fuck they were, but that stupid just yelled a Sega logo at you at the end. Like, I don't know why. That guy as a kid, I would get super excited. Oh, at the end of the commercial, he's going to yell Sega at me. And then he did. But the actual best commercials are the ones
Starting point is 03:02:41 we never got for the Saturn. Second to Saturn should row that entire game. Go with that. They're unmatched. Thank you. It's totally unmatched. I really like the ads for Barbarian on Xbox and GameCube and PS2.
Starting point is 03:02:53 Oh, shut up. You know about that game? Yeah. Where it's talking about how I was like a 99-pound scrawny-ass white man who became a Barbarian. It's classic. What are those called? Like commercials where people are recounting it.
Starting point is 03:03:08 Info-mercial? No, but like testimonial. It's like a testimonial to using this product. Barbarian. I always thought that ad was so like. I really like that brief time in the later life of the N64. And Nintendo was like, oh, we've got to be tough now. So it was get in or get out.
Starting point is 03:03:26 Are you obviously trying to go fuck you by our consoles? Is that what you're saying? Like that's so flavoring. So the fucking terrible Earthbound marketing campaign. The game stinks. Yeah. Oh my god. And they actually stunk.
Starting point is 03:03:41 If I may. If I may. Sorry. Sorry. We got all excited. First. Because Sega Saturn was fucking the best. But it's not fair.
Starting point is 03:03:48 Yeah, it's so much like a cut above. But I'm not counting that. Fucking Akuma Joe, Devil May Cry 2. Dante breaking through the glass is the coolest thing ever. And the other one, where the girl's on the date with the guy and he's breaking up with her. And she's got the flowers. And then she does a fucking rebellion combo
Starting point is 03:04:09 in two high times. And the guy's juggled. And then she shakes the champagne bottle and shoots it. And goes, bop. Fucking great, man. I saw this ad when I was 15 year old from BABYMAT in an EGM. And it was a two page spread.
Starting point is 03:04:24 And it was a satiny blue gossamer bed spread. And there was this bad CG render of this buck naked blonde lady. Fucking maximum. Right? No, but it was just an ad for the Sega Saturn. And it was just screenshots of shitty old games that the Saturn could barely run.
Starting point is 03:04:44 Well, the PlayStation was destroying everything. It was like, remember that embarrassing port of Mortal Kombat 2 that the Saturn got while the PlayStation was getting MK3? And the ad said, there's a beautiful naked woman like spread out for you. But when you have Sega Saturn, that's all that matters. And that was the ad.
Starting point is 03:05:07 Pretty big fan of the Clay Fighters one, where they're crashing into all. They're killing all the Street Fighters. And like Chun-Li is stuffed into a dumpster. Blankas like crushed and splattens and shit. Those characters are forgotten. Everyone remembers the Clay Fighters. Absolutely.
Starting point is 03:05:23 You got the Johnny Cage. Johnny Cage is making the switch. Gumby with it. No, no, no. It didn't actually say Johnny Cage. No, no, it's the actor. Do you know what we're talking about? The actor that says Johnny Cage.
Starting point is 03:05:35 It's an ad for Blood Storm. It's making the switch to Blood Storm. And he got summarily booted from all the MK games afterwards. When Midway saw that he did that ad for them, guess what? So that's why Mortal Kombat Trilogy, when they rehabged Johnny Cage, they couldn't put his likeness back in the game. So they had an actor recast it. Because they were so pissed at him.
Starting point is 03:05:57 It's fucking amazing. We didn't mention the Final Fantasy VII commercial campaign. Oh, that blew me away, too. That thing. It was just the CG shots for the game. It was just CG shots, and they were blatant lies. But it didn't matter. You didn't know that, because it was the first time
Starting point is 03:06:13 you'd ever seen that shit, ever. So you saw that commercial, and the crowd was on the bike. You were watching Raw. And then this fucking trailer would come out, and it was using shots of the Nibbleheim, like the monster coming out of the glass on the bike. And it's like, it's on PlayStation right now. And how did you know of a screaming in the glass?
Starting point is 03:06:35 And you was like a 10-year-old child. Oh. And plus, since it said Final Fantasy VII, you were like, I didn't know there was a bunch of others. It's so advanced. Did they just skip three games? The thing is, though, after it did come out and stuff, and I remember when the commercials were still running,
Starting point is 03:06:55 I was that kid at school that was going, OK, it looks really cool, but the game doesn't look like that, though. Guess what? Fuck you. You're the worst. I was saying that. Fuck you, kid. Because, yeah, I had a Nintendo, you know?
Starting point is 03:07:07 Like, see, that's the thing. It was blatant lies and a fool of everyone. I was trying to tell people. You're right. It was blatant lies and a fool of everyone. It was deceptive marketing. You're a little bitch. You got the game, and the game was fucking awesome,
Starting point is 03:07:19 and you didn't care. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And so those N64 kids needed to die. I got two other ones. Well, we did it to you for Ocarina, so it's fine. Perfect dark commercial with just a live-action sexy lady putting on her shit and showering. Getting dressed.
Starting point is 03:07:34 And it got me hyped up about other things. Also during Raw. Also during Raw. Raw? Video games. You could have shown them the Varese, sorry. Sorry, I'm going to say live. In Japan, there was a really good FF13 ad, where it took
Starting point is 03:07:51 place in a school, an elementary school. And the teacher was a really young teacher, like 20s or something. And he's saying, oh, well, I'm going to be taking a couple days off next week. And one of the kids asks, why? And it's a close-up of his face, and he looks kind of melancholy.
Starting point is 03:08:06 And like he says, seven years. Seven years I've been waiting for this day. And it cuts Final Fantasy XIII footage. It's super good. I bet he was disappointed. It's a super good ad, though. And the other one was the Oreshka series, right? Because there's three games.
Starting point is 03:08:21 There's the first one, and there's a PSP remake, and then there's the recent Vita one. So in the first one, it's with a father and his son. And they're on the beach, and they're talking about life. And the father yells out, oreno shikabanen okote yuke, go forth over my dead body. And the PSP remake came out five years later. And it's with that son, who's now grown up.
Starting point is 03:08:42 It's with his father. And he yells to his son, oreno shikabanen okote yuke. And there's the third one, the Vita one, where the grandfather's died, I believe. And the father and the son are there. And the father does the same thing again. And it's like this continuing narrative of trailers for like 15 years is great.
Starting point is 03:09:03 I know that not that any of you guys have seen it, but I brought it up in the reboot LP, is the toy commercial was fucking weird. Because it was like these kids are coming home from school, and they're like, fast forward. Reboot's on. And you see a warning incoming game coming down over their house, and I'm like, why would you run into that?
Starting point is 03:09:25 That is the scariest worst thing ever. It's going to murder everyone. You have a 50 chance of surviving this, idiots. And the kids are grabbing each other's hands and running to their death slay. It's fucking fucked. Oh, sorry. There's one more, just because you mentioned that.
Starting point is 03:09:43 It's like if you had like an Eva commercial, and there's like an angel coming down, and the kids are just running to the angel. Or like a colossal titan is leaning over your building, and you're like, yeah! Like what? Oh, exactly. So you mentioned the clay fire one, the one for eternal
Starting point is 03:09:58 champions, where it's just the box art, but the screen shots said like, hey, yeah, Jetta is really good. And also Blaine, hey, Johnny Cage, scared you're going to be whipped by a girl. And then like, look at the size of these sprites. They're huge losers. Like Gile would shit their pants. Like it would shit, but like pee or something.
Starting point is 03:10:19 And it was just like really eternal champions. You got to take your shots. You thought you were at that level. You got to go bigger. You got to have, man. You got to act like you're big. American businessmen trying to dethrone Street Fighter 2. Fake it till you make it.
Starting point is 03:10:35 All right. I punched him, and I broke my hand. What is going on? Like, Street Fighter 2 was invincible at the time. And let's take one from Antony, who says, hey guys, in the RE4 cabin sequence, wouldn't it make more sense if Leon pulled the ladders into the house rather than just pushing them down?
Starting point is 03:10:49 Absolutely. Except there's a problem. It would also take a lot more time. So they're there. That only solves the people on the top. So here's the deal. Any time that you push the ladders over, there's people on them.
Starting point is 03:11:03 There's no time period ever in that sequence in which a ladder is up against the window and no one's on it, which would mean pulling it in either brings one guy in. But also, you'd have to be fucking strong to just keep it. No, it's true. The moment it goes up, there's always at least one body on the ladder. So it's just like, I have to solve the problem right now.
Starting point is 03:11:21 Push. Yeah, but like that's a bit. So actually, there you go. That's a really reasonable explanation. Throughout the game, that's true. But when he's in the cabin, he has Luis there. And it was a wooden ladder. They could pull it in.
Starting point is 03:11:32 No, there's people on it. That's why we'll shoot them first, then pull it in. Oh, yeah. But it's faster to just knock them over. Imagine if you get a mechanics don't allow for that. But imagine if you could. He was standing. Yeah, leaning out a window and shooting down.
Starting point is 03:11:45 Only one game. What game? That was the London Heist VR demo. Oh, jeez. In the car door. Yeah, you're right. Shoot behind you. But that took another 20 years.
Starting point is 03:11:55 Handled it the best, but he did handle it. He has a little bit. It was his first day on the job. Cool. What's coming out? What are we looking forward to? I'm looking forward to Soma as well. I think I'm going to buy Soma, but I
Starting point is 03:12:08 don't know how it's going to go. This is really confusing. I searched for Soma on the PlayStation Network, and it doesn't exist there. Is it coming out? It's very likely, yeah. It's just not up for pre-order, probably. But there's no page, or is that standard?
Starting point is 03:12:24 There's also pages for stuff that's not on the Xbox service. It's just whatever third party is up. Because I was just like, is the stand airs are coming later? But it's like, no, it's standing. It's just waiting to show up. I haven't been keeping up with Soma at all. I watched the original trailer a few years ago.
Starting point is 03:12:39 Yeah, lots of times. And today, I saw the Topic Copangaff, and there's a bunch of, there's two live action bits. Yeah, it's weird. One's called the Vavarium, and one's called Mockingbird. Holy shit, these things sold me. Because it made me realize what Soma's about. It's not about space.
Starting point is 03:13:00 It's not about robots. There's no space. It's underwater. Well, whatever, you know, robots and stuff. It is frictional, and the guys who made the number also, they want to make their own SCP game. That's what's sold. That sounds interesting.
Starting point is 03:13:16 Is that a spoiler? Because they've been hiding what the monster is. No, no, there's multiple monsters. Vavarium is long. They're both like four or five minutes long, and they don't have scares. They just have this weird tone. And in Vavarium, there hits a point where the character is,
Starting point is 03:13:35 she's turning on this creepy looking robot, and it doesn't work. And then it does something, and you go what? And she goes, ugh, and turns it off. And you're like, this is an SCP writer. 10 times out of 10, I would prefer tone, fear, than jump scares. And also, I read, I did a little reading on...
Starting point is 03:13:54 Put your video away. I did a little reading on games. Mario Maker's really scary sometimes. There's a fucking Five Nights at Freddy's level. Dude, I played a horror level in Mario Maker, and I was like, I've never felt tension like there's before. I did a little reading on the game design that they wanted to go for, and they said, okay,
Starting point is 03:14:10 so we figured out how to make every single enemy terrifying to the maximum every time there are no repeat enemies ever. And they all work on different rules. Well, I read a destructive interview of the game, where they're like, I actually wish there was some enemies that repeated, because you only see them once, and I was like, that one was really good,
Starting point is 03:14:29 but it was better than the last two ones you had. I'd rather them... The idea is that all you need... That monster sees you, it will run you down, and murder you, and you gotta run. There's one that if it stares at you, you instantly die. There's one that's blind, there's one that moves slow. So when you see it, you never know what you're supposed to do.
Starting point is 03:14:53 Just be careful. Like in amnesia, you always knew what to do. It was hide from it. Don't look at it. In this one, maybe one is look at it. If they're using SCP as inspiration, then one probably is always look at it. SCP cross Titan souls.
Starting point is 03:15:09 Yeah, and the visual design looks super awesome, so hopefully that's really good. That's what I'm looking forward to. Me too. I'm gonna try and finish Switcher this week, but who knows? I'm looking forward to unlocking the mission that I didn't get, which I need to let you guys know. The quiet thing, right?
Starting point is 03:15:28 You know about that? I know there's a thing, but you're gonna have to find out those details for us. I know what they are. Like I just know there's a thing. Play your side ops. I'm doing that recently. I've done like 60 side ops.
Starting point is 03:15:40 Play your side ops, and play with the stuff that matters, and you should be fine. Each of us is on in Garfield. Because basically, it seems as if it's like you get the no ending if you just don't fucking beat the game. If you just don't play anything. Yeah, Hayley, there's a bunch of missions that are straight up just replay these missions on Hardware.
Starting point is 03:16:01 You don't have to touch those. I already checked this through with our resident person who's finished it. Because I was like, well, let's not do those. Because that'd be boring. You don't have to. But they fucking pay out. Well, he'll do it. I'll do it.
Starting point is 03:16:16 Yeah, but we won't do them. That works. But yeah, there's a totally missable mission that you can get the true end. That's like 46 or something? 45. You can get the true ending and still not get that. Yeah, so we'll probably swing back around for it. What is...
Starting point is 03:16:31 Okay, so the next Monday is the 28th of September, correct? All day. Okay, good. So we'll leave some of that stuff till next week about what we're talking about, what's coming up. Metal Gear continues. Danganronpas continues. Until Dawn will continue.
Starting point is 03:16:50 Star Fox just finished yesterday. So we have to finish the Star Fox game. I watched the ending of that shit. Holy fuck. It's just so amazing. Goddamn. Good job in Mystery Box coming up today or tomorrow, I think. Willie pulls the proverbial wool over my eyes a little bit.
Starting point is 03:17:07 That gets punked. Boho. I get a little punked. And we have... I put on my little Ashley Kutcher mask, he says. A lot of people have been asking for compilations. But you dressed up like Demi Moore. Oh no.
Starting point is 03:17:16 You're going to get a super mega long compilation of something we did recently this Saturday, an hour and 40 minutes. It's an hour and a half plus. So pretty obvious, so I mean... No. It's not going to be anything. Mecha Week compilation. Yeah.
Starting point is 03:17:30 Here we go. If you guys remember that... Don't spoil it. Can't wait. Can't wait. There you go. Mecha Week compilation. I want a video that is the compilation of every time me and Willie go
Starting point is 03:17:41 at Front Mission 3. Or that laugh that you just did. Oh man. Oh, what a good game. Someone asked me, are you going to get back to Front Mission? And I'm like, it's at the top of the list after I get through all this new shit. Yeah.
Starting point is 03:17:54 It's in the old shit pile at the top. But there's some... It's fall, man. The new shit is happening. Get this fucking new games out of my way. All this garbage. And then you just... And then when Street Fighter comes out,
Starting point is 03:18:05 you take that old shit pile and just throw it in the dumpster and then never stack. Or just burn it where it sits. Yeah. I had forgotten. No time for dumpsters. I had put boxes in my closets with games that I wasn't planning on playing, right?
Starting point is 03:18:19 And I went back and was like... So it's the actual never pile? And I went... Well, some of them are finished. Okay. Okay. And I went back and I was going through them until I was looking for a specific game,
Starting point is 03:18:27 Sugunai Atonement. And I was going through the boxes and one of them said backlog, one of them said backlog. And the third one said infinity backlog. And I had forgotten that I wrote infinity backlog. It's the funniest thing. And sure enough, it was in the infinity backlog box. Yeah.
Starting point is 03:18:44 I don't know. I don't know. It was funny. Give up. Yeah. To everyone. I put them in the closet. To everyone with a backlog that seems to be growing larger,
Starting point is 03:18:51 give up on the concept. It's never going to work. Never going to work. Please look forward to a unique Friday night. Oh, yeah. Yeah, that's true. It was a Friday night thing. It was very different.
Starting point is 03:19:03 It was very different. Oh, that's this week? Yeah, it is. More familiar than you'd expect. But very different. It's, yeah. Yeah, that's weird. I liked it, though.
Starting point is 03:19:12 Good. I liked it a lot. I'm glad you walked away happy with that experience. All right. Yo, Liam, what's a really cool song from Destiny? From Destiny? All of them? Okay.
Starting point is 03:19:21 Well, what's a good one? Each and every. I don't know the names. No one knows that. Symphony of the fucking whatever. Just use the. Music of the spheres? That's like music of the spheres.
Starting point is 03:19:29 Outlaw. Wally, just. Did I stutter? Wally, just use the halo theme. Like. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

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