Castle Super Beast - SBFC 112: The Infinite Tsukuyomi Has Begun
Episode Date: September 29, 2015Hope you guys like Star Trek!...
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There's a lot. I seen anticipation threads for this podcast.
The build, yeah.
What episode number is this one?
You know, it's a shame we've got to go through this.
It is. The song and dance.
We don't even talk no more. We don't even kiss.
This is episode 112 of the Super Best Friendcast.
And go ahead, Liam, ask me.
Ask the question.
What's your esoteric fact about the number 11-2?
Well, I'll have you know that 11-2 is actually the emergency contact number
in most European countries.
What? I wouldn't have known that.
All the European countries that end in, like, IA?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Like all the little countries you don't care about.
Like the Eastern Bloc?
Like the Eastern Bloc?
I would have burned alive.
Countries such as Albania, Andorra, Austria, Lithuania, Australia, etc.
Australia, really? Wow.
Right next to it, yeah.
Malaysia, Macedonia, Macau.
Australia is not an Eastern Europe.
And guess what?
What?
If you dial 112 in Canada, it redirects to 911.
Oh, what? Really?
Because there's so many Europeans.
She is.
I had no idea.
How about that esoteric fact?
That's a good fact for the week.
I remember when I was a little kid, when I was 5 or 6, there was a commercial on TV about 911,
and I asked my mom about it.
Apparently prior to when we were little kids, there was no 911,
and then the Americans started doing it,
and then we picked it up because we all watched American TV,
and everyone was fucking dialing it,
but it used to be you had to actually just call your police station.
Call the sheriff.
Call the hospital.
911 is way better.
Damn.
That's a good one, too.
Back in the days when there was no yellow fucking light,
and it was just red into green into red.
That's every day of Montreal.
One, one, two in Australia is the default number that whenever you pick up a phone in that nation,
it just goes, what's the problem?
Have you been bitten by anything?
You pick up the phone, and until you prove you're not calling your mom,
it automatically gets to you.
Boy, boy, minister!
Andy!
Boy, Mike!
That's the wrong one.
Malaysia's part of Europe.
I'm new every day.
Well, Malaysia is built into the Seychelles.
That's a bloody outrage it is.
Luxembourg, Mauritius, Panama, Pakistan.
Mauritius is a tiny island nation off the east coast of Africa, if I remember.
I had some friends in high school that were from Mauritius. They're nice people.
It's like near Madagascar.
Yeah, something like that.
A lot of non-European countries, too.
I wonder why it became 911 or 112.
Holy shit, this list is insane.
So, are you saying we're the odd ones out?
We're the odd ones out.
Some American, some American.
Packed by Ric Flair.
Some American carriers also redirect.
So, Willie, what you're saying is that if you're having a podcast emergency,
just tune in to podcast 112 to learn about the number.
To learn that this won't help.
You're having a good time now.
Everyone, open more podcasts. You're going to have a good time.
Dial the number in, and 112 black guys will show up right at your door.
They'll help.
112?
112 of them. That's a lot of black guys.
They'll show up at your house to break up with you, because it's over now.
Netflix and chill, though.
Netflix and chill with 112 black dudes.
That would be the best weekend ever.
That is the ultimate chill.
You guys see that video when you take anime too seriously?
Yeah, I love it.
It wasn't inside enough.
But it's not so long ago.
Yeah, exactly.
They discovered by the mainstream.
No, exactly.
Like pop music.
More importantly, motherfuckers, there's water on Mars.
Can I swim in it, though?
Can I swim in it, though?
It's way salty.
So, yes.
All the flavors in the universe.
And they chose to make it salty.
Liam, you're quiet, so you can roll around in that shit.
And just wet yourself, but you'll be fine.
Absorb it all.
Absorb that salt.
So, I was wondering which one of you was going to hit Mars first.
You or you?
Good for you, Willie. You did it.
Did you tune into the live stream?
I did not.
They're fucking on you stream.
NASA's in school.
I feel like we are five to ten years from a guy in a suit getting up.
By the way, so we found some germs.
And then everyone's going to go crazy.
Yeah.
Because here's the thing.
It's like, all right, are you bringing back samples?
Yes.
When do I get my symbiote suit?
Yeah.
Later or now?
You have to be the son of J. Jonah Jameson
and make a mission to Mars, then come back.
That's when it is.
Or participate in the secret wars.
Which Willie's always been planning to do.
It's on the bucket list.
It's always been one of those far-flung
astronomical theories that it's possible
that human life actually originated on Mars
and got blown off that planet
by a snicked meteorite,
which is one of those meteorites
that has organic matter in them.
Because we have a bunch of those.
It's not goo, but it's pretty close to goo.
It's goo-y enough.
So if they find one germ
on that fucking planet,
then all of a sudden it's like, uh-oh.
Are we even Terrans?
Yeah.
But at the rate we're going though,
it's not even matter because let's not forget
that we're already in the middle of the infinite Tsukiyomi.
That's correct.
The sharing hand in the sky has begun.
So guess who went the most nuts
about that?
One D. James Goddard,
who said the warrior's moon.
The weapon lord has drawn forth.
It's all coming.
It's all coming to a head.
The ultimate warrior, rest your soul.
The blood-red moon.
Did you see that CNN screenshot?
No, no.
It's the infinite Tsukiyomi has begun.
And it's just this terrifying photo
of a sharing hand bearing down on Earth.
And it's like Ichigo and Goku
has been called in as reinforcements.
No, Ichigo is a good guy.
And Bufu Special Forces.
Sikura is being helpful.
I think my favorite was that one guy
on V last night
who posted a thread and said,
I'm super drunk and I looked at the moon.
What's happening? That is a picture.
The first post is,
did you play Bloodborne?
And then ostensibly the same guy says,
I'm so scared right now.
You make contact.
So what you're saying is
we discovered water on Mars
and the heavens told us no.
There's water bad.
Uchiha Itachi's plans
are coming to a head.
You stay on Earth, you fucks.
So the sunbi takes over Itachi,
right?
Then what?
Then he uses the black sun jutsu
on Jirai's dead butthole or whatever.
So we all saw the red moon, right?
I did not see it.
I saw it. Did you notice?
I saw it because you texted me and everyone in the moon
after you left.
You'll look at the moon.
And then we heard someone outside go,
Yo!
So did you know after the moon
it was like an ultra moon?
And the moon was at its closest
to the Earth at that point?
I was trying to sleep.
And it was like fucking daytime outside.
You got a super moon.
Well, because the Yagami clan
must be reborn.
And what better way to summon the carousel?
I saw lots of people
like, oh man, lots of people
bloodbending tonight.
It's the most powerful.
Bruce Almighty is on a date.
I had a horrible moment during that
blood moon phase in which I discovered too much
about myself as a person
in which I was playing FF14
and people were going,
Dude, you gotta look outside!
Here's the blood moon! It's crazy!
And I literally looked over
to my window,
noticed I couldn't see it from where I was sitting
and just said,
No, it's only once every 29 years!
I didn't say you'll see it again.
But I want to mine these rocks now.
Even Nintendo was like
rocks. Nintendo was like
watch out for if it has a face
and whatnot.
That's funny.
Not quite the Sonic the Hedgehog.
Nintendo, you guys are a hilarious guy.
God, that cranky Hong phase on that Twitter.
It's a rollercoaster ride
of epic divorces.
I hope that Twitter account
is put into a time capsule.
And then in 50 years,
someone's going to look back on it.
The Sonic or Nintendo?
I hope that the person running that
Twitter account has a mental breakdown
and goes all the way and then Sega tries
to fire them, but can't get the account back.
That's what I want.
Because the person has it signed to.
No, I'm Sonic for real!
They have to take legal actions to stop it?
Yeah.
Or I want the next Sonic game to just be a Twitter feed of that.
Sonic's Twitter adventure.
Yeah, that'd be solid.
Get those hashtags.
That's a concept there.
That's money.
That's what they put out on Twitter today
where they put out a tweet that said
for everyone asking about localizations,
we hear you all.
And then one of the first responses is
what about Tales of Vesperia PS3?
And they respond, not that one though.
That boat is
always sailed.
That boat has sailed so long ago.
I forget.
What was it?
It was some PlayStation blog post from a month ago
that you and I were laughing at.
That was like, what about Revelations 2 on the Vita?
Yeah, it was a completely unrelated post.
These people exist out there
that it's like, I'm just gonna ask
every single time.
Nothing's gonna happen.
I don't care if it's 15 years old.
When are you gonna play Shippuden Ultimate Ninja Storm?
You should ask yourself that question.
I saw the best post
on an Until Dawn post
that said, fuck this, where's Until Dawn?
And I'm not sure
if it was like, this is funny
or the guy just didn't know.
No, that's an underrated comment.
No, it's the robot
that that guy created to download those videos.
Like, fuck that.
That's a lot of downbots to download.
Why do those exist?
Aside from Blood Red Moons,
what else did Woolly do?
Oh, I can, you're right.
Yeah, what'd you do then?
Something that I've been meaning to do for a while,
I finally started the Sopranos.
Oh, that's actually doing that.
Yeah, because
you wanted to do a thing.
Now that you're like, let me watch Sopranos first.
Now that that's getting married,
you don't want to accidentally make some kind of social faux pas.
Or you could forego the show
and just hang around with me
for a few months and you'll get all the Sopranos you need.
So there's a giant steel Jesus.
I got it not.
I was literally with a guy that was someone poking me
and said, that's the guy.
Anyway.
I gotta not be the woolly young to this family.
That's right.
No, that was
something that was on the air.
When I was what?
Grade 7?
And it was like, this looks really good.
But I can't have these titties on screen flipping around
while my mom is walking by.
It's not going to fly.
So now that I'm a grown ass man.
And you can't watch it with them because that's even worse.
I still can't have those titties popping around the screen.
Because you never know when your mom could just bust in.
You don't know what you're messing with.
You don't know what you're messing with.
What am I messing with mom?
Anyway.
But
I hate the son and the Sopranos so much.
I hate that kid's face.
I feel bad.
Even when he grew up over the course of the show.
Like even just his appearance?
I'm sorry. I don't usually have that reaction.
But I always hated him.
I never cared when he was on the screen.
Every time I saw his sign stories
at a glance, it was always annoying.
But starting from the beginning, I like them all.
It's good that you can see why
the show is considered legendary.
It's amazing. It's a great ass show.
It's like
one season in two days or so.
It's like yeah.
You're patting it.
Any of you guys finished Bojack Season 2 yet?
I haven't even started.
I need to start one day.
All I gotta say is
the cringe factor dude.
Good.
Did you finish it?
Yes.
The cringe that you had
at the end of Season 1
is fucking tiddlywinks.
Zero cringe at the end of Season 1.
The Season 1
Episode 3 or 4
where he's making out with the girl from the show
and Todd gets dragged in.
That's probably the worst
moment from the first season.
How many of those?
This is where we're going 13.
15 on 10.
That's what I want.
You're just crying and hiding from the TV
and being happy.
Me and the girlfriend had to
have a conversation afterwards
because it was like
why'd you laugh at that?
What does that mean?
Do you have the problem that I have
that when you run into that stuff
your arm just lashes out and hits pause?
I don't look.
I don't look.
Do you have the fortitude
to just be like
You gotta keep watching.
You keep it going.
You unplug your mouse and let it go to the end.
And just let your teeth hurt.
When cringe hits me really hard I look down at the floor
and I listen and I just go
I can't believe I'm watching this.
I watched the
Chris Rock movie Top 5.
It's funny it has comedians in it
but it accidentally turns into a rom-com
at the last 13th hour.
As we've all discussed if you want to watch
your rom-com, start the rom-com episode 1.
It's been a fucking while
since I've watched the thing where it just
accidentally whoops
rom-com.
He's usually the harbinger
of the accidental rom-com.
Did you detect him? That was crazy.
You didn't watch the end.
What's his name? Wolverine.
He's been doing a couple of those
and then the Broadway stuff as well.
He did a rom-com or two.
He was in Kate and Leopold.
And I think he's in a rom-com.
That is straight up a rom-com.
He's from the past.
I mean look,
he's no like Owen Wilson,
Vince Vaughn, like mashup
but he's up there.
Owen Wilson, Vince Vaughn are like your fucking creepy
skeezy rom-com.
Yeah, but they're there.
Because everyone wants to make the movie
that the guys are going to enjoy
but you still take your lady.
Don't even try.
Don't even try.
No further.
The last time I got hoodwinked like that
I think it was Run Fat Boy Run
where it's like you go in thinking
you think it's going to be
a Simon Pegg movie.
Yeah, okay, yes it is.
And he's in love with money and he's from the New Jane Game.
Yeah, totally.
And it's not until
The Rockin' Bar one.
She's kind of got older though.
It's not until At World's End
where they pull that one back.
It's not just Run Fat Boy Run
it's how to make friends
or how to lose friends and alienate people.
Oh, is that another one?
Be honest about your romance guys.
Run Fat Boy Run was directed by
David Schwimmer.
So that's fucking weird.
Interesting.
It's the commercials.
There's always the rom-com commercial
but then there's the comedy version commercial
and then the...
It's not rom-com but I've mentioned it in the past
I'm going to mention it until one of you knows what I'm talking about.
You go off the theatrical trailer
for The Talented Mr. Ripley.
Oh, they didn't know how to market that thing.
Did you see that? Holy shit.
I've never seen
a bigger lie.
What did they do?
The Talented Mr. Ripley is painted as if
it's a...
So what is that movie?
It's Jude Law and Matt Damon
Caprio, I think.
Whatever. The point is Mr. Ripley
he's a talented guy and they painted
all these rich white people
and there's the guy with the girl
but then the new guy Ripley is like
oh that girl though
and then it's implied that there's like
uh oh, he did just a shady thing
and oh, what happened? It's a mystery.
I don't want to spoil any part of that.
Every part of the description I just gave you was a lie.
Every single fucking part of it.
Okay, so like fucking
the camera thing is that Ripley is gay.
So it has nothing to do with
his desire for Gwyneth Paltrow.
Yeah, it's something completely different.
And it ends up, it's closer to like
Hannibal than it is to
like a drama. Yeah, that's pretty far.
And it's way...
And they were like terrified, it was like
well the villain can't be a gay guy
who wants to do dudes.
People won't go watch it and they were right.
People didn't go watch it. Have you seen...
Have you seen that like the happy family
movie shining the trailer
for that? Or like the
what was it? West Side Story
as like a violent
serial spence thriller. Yeah.
Those are good. Yeah. Fuck it, you can turn
Dragon Tattoo into the most
sappy love story.
If you take the right cuts...
No, you take the right cuts and you change
the colors a lot. No, the flashback
sequences are all shot in like
sepia-tappy tone. So just use that.
So you use a lot of that
you use a lot of like the stark
not the farm
area, but like the city
area. There's a lot of footage for the lovemaking
scene. There's got to be one good shot from the
farm. Yeah.
Yeah.
Anyway. Anything's all grunge anyway.
Anyway. No, but I finally
got to I guess the first big twist
and until dawn and oh my god, that fixes
everything. That was super good.
The first big twist.
That one? Yeah. The first big twist.
We can talk about that first
twist. No, people might not be watching
the Elmercast next week. Who's not
watching the Elmercast?
Some people will not do a spoiler cast next
week. The LP will be completely finished with
the end of the podcast. Okay. Well, if I get
it, let me beat it. Beat it. It depends
on when my girlfriend comes over. Like we were playing it together. Tell her
to come over. I'm trying. Anyway.
Text her right now. It's a good twist. It's less than half left.
Like all the things I was... You're like two-thirds
if you got the Elmercast. The two mild complaints I had last
time. God, fucking...
I told you, right? I'm evaporating.
Yeah, yeah. Because when you were complaining
about them slightly like a few weeks ago,
we were all by our tongues like, oh, this gets fixed.
I know, I know, I know. In fact,
the complaint you're having now will make it
better later.
So that's solid. I started
Undertale and that is a joy
and a pleasure. I hear it's a good game. It's
hilarious. It's fucking great.
More to be said once I'm done.
Okay. Isn't that like two seconds? I remember
it's five hours. Okay.
I remember Slow Beef just telling me
burn down all your other videos.
Yeah. Well, thanks, Slow Beef.
Slow Beef and 800
other people on the internet.
Friends and fans alike.
So, you know, took a look and yeah, man.
That's got some funny stuff going on.
And
I'm finally at a point where I'm comfortable
saying I'm done with the Phantom Pain.
Finish, finish, finish.
Yeah, so I might go back in the future.
Yeah, because I'm like, I could get to 100%,
but I've seen all the original
content that there is to see.
You've done Mission 46, you're all...
All of that, right? The special extra missions.
Yeah, yeah. I built a nuke.
I decommissioned a nuke. Good.
I invaded FOBs. I got all in there
and out there and saw the whole thing.
And yeah, man.
Um...
Yep. That's still...
That's a video game. That's a video game. Okay, what's
your playtime? Oh god, I don't know, dude.
It says. Okay. It says.
It's inaccurate because I've left it on.
Ah, don't do that. Ah, that's the worst.
You gotta play it good. This is a game
where, no, you're gonna do that.
Ah, I hate that. We're not gonna do that.
Well, too bad. No.
Or not. I'm just curious.
And I've been switching back and forth between the thing,
like so frequently that it doesn't make sense to me to turn it off.
I'll turn it on, do a mission, put it down, go back,
watch a thing, put it back up. I just asked what the playtime was.
No, I'm too good because he's like, don't do that.
I'm like, no, not a good reason.
Now, everything has to have its proper time slot
separately. Ah, fuck it, I'm crazy.
Anyway.
Yeah, it still sits where I said it did.
Which is?
I think we had that off-camera.
No. No.
So right at the bottom, right?
No. It's fourth.
What's the fourth of six?
I assume you mean console games.
Okay. Number titles.
And I assume you're rolling ground zero
and kind of counting together.
I'm not counting portable ops.
I'm not counting piece walker
because I didn't play it proper.
I just watched the cutscenes.
And you're rolling ground zeroes and fan and pain together, I imagine?
Yes. I'm rolling them together.
And oh my god, does it fix some good shit.
Anyway,
those being considered one entry,
I say
three, one,
four, five.
Two. Two. Two. Wow.
Two's really low. Okay.
Two is that low for you? I didn't think it was.
It's a four for two. It's a nine.
Two is great. But here's the thing.
The main reason why two is that low for me
compared to all the rest is because
the end of a Metal Gear game
is always a bombastic affair.
And like the end
of one, three,
and four in particular are like beyond perfect.
The end of two,
I thought was great
but nowhere near as good as the...
Oh, the end of two is amazing.
The end of two is the strongest part.
The entire series.
I didn't have that feeling on it.
But I still enjoyed it, but just compared to the others.
Do you remember it?
Of course. Did you get it?
You get a sword and you swing it.
Yes.
I don't like to like a lot.
You're fighting the president of the United States
in a sword battle.
And then the third dude
and solidist of all that stuff.
But compared to the things going on in the other three,
it didn't hit me as hard.
This is the most...
We'll actually have to agree to disagree ever.
Because that shit blew my mind
so much harder.
It blew my mind in a way
where I remember it took a while for me to digest it.
Because at the time...
At the time I was like,
what the fuck are you doing?
And then I ended it and I was like, that was dumb.
And then I was like, wait.
And then I went through it and I was like,
okay, no, I accept this
and I like this.
And then I grew to accept it
as opposed to being like...
That's the difference is that when it starts
to all fall apart and go crazy,
that's my favorite thing.
I'm looking at it and I go,
what?
I've grown to appreciate it way more.
It's the same sentence, but with a different tone.
Yeah.
I swung the other way on that pendulum.
Was this game even happening?
Yeah.
You look inside your disc tray and there's nothing in there.
No, like right now I think that
Peace Walker and Phantom Pain
are the only two...
And Ground Zeroes are the only
ones where I would never think of putting them
in first, even at all.
We haven't finished Phantom Pain.
We're still I think a bit
less than halfway through.
I believe we're just about to reach halfway.
Yeah.
But even before I would have a hard time,
but definitely those two I wouldn't be able
to put them in first.
When the ranking is happening,
you take the best parts of each game
and you stack them up to each other.
Oh no, you always stack the worst parts
against the worst parts.
You do, you have to.
But when I stack the best stuff
that happens in Phantom Pain,
to me is better than the best stuff in here.
That's fair.
I believe it. Two's Peaks aren't really
like barring the ending and a couple
in the middle here and there.
Just think about the general strut
without the crazy twists.
No, I love that stuff so much.
But I'm saying prior to the twist.
Listening to Peter Stillman
talk for almost an hour
about how he's faked
not having a leg for ten years.
I'm just like, my eyes are wide open.
Ha!
It was amazing.
Gosh, they're just all so good.
They're all so good.
I kind of think that
Phantom Pain will always be
looked fondly upon
and be remembered for the stuff it does.
I kind of think Phantom Pain
will, like, it has its
detractors and people that love it.
But it won't be looked upon with as much
like, I don't want to say memory.
It's a really fantastic video game.
I don't know, it took people a long time
to turn around on MGS2.
It did. A little longer than I thought.
Maybe we'll see the same thing.
That's what you're hearing out of me.
On just the level of Just Endings, though.
Not the main game, Just Endings.
Just Ending?
There's like three
and then there's a power gap
between everything else.
It's not even Four's Ending.
It's the power gap and then Four's Ending.
And then Four's Ending.
I like Four's Ending better.
I like the end of Snake's Story.
Solid Snake's Story better than
the beginning of Jack's Story.
It's so good.
For me, it's like,
For Endings, I'd go for three.
Because
Four's Ending has so much stupid
bullshit in it, too, though.
Because I came out of Four.
Microwave Halloween.
From that point,
to the final credit shot.
Before that, when you get in the boat
with Mei Ling and you're set it off
and you're on your adventure,
or the fact that you're watching
the credits and the initial reveal
of fucking Big Boss.
Voice of God, the Big Boss.
It says Richard Doyle and it stays there
and you're like, he wasn't in the game.
And then it goes on.
That feeling was like
you had a visit
with your granddad.
You had fishing.
And then at the end of the day, he died.
And you went,
goodbye, granddad.
And you felt, yeah.
But the end of three
was just tears.
Babbling fucking tears.
Oh, I wasn't crying.
I was broken. It was sad.
And no other video game disc has ever done that to me.
I was only four years old. He didn't understand the problem.
I wasn't.
So there's something to be said for that satisfying
like, yeah, man, Richard.
Three's Ending is amazing.
But I was not a husk of a man
like I was when
fucking Way to Fall starts playing.
So here's my problem with Phantom Pain.
I'm not that far into it.
Well, you can feel it.
My biggest problem is something that
Gaming Brit,
the review you sent me,
brought up, and I think Bunny Hopwood,
but I can't look at his review because it's probably smaller.
I've got a comment on that, too.
Go ahead.
Is that Three's Ending is so perfect
that even now,
after Peace Walker,
after all Ground Zeroes,
after Phantom Pain,
you needed to be told.
It's all
implied.
There was that straight line
from Three to Metal Gear One.
You see the handshake,
or lack thereof, and you go, I understand.
It's done. And I'm still waiting
for the thing that happens
that I go, well, okay, now that these games
now that matters a lot.
But what you're going to get,
when you're going to get here, is going to be some good shots.
But except for one part of it.
But anyway,
the thing that Bunny Hop had to say,
I think you guys,
I can't watch the video, I can't watch it.
So you have
a misconception.
He's not ripping in a new one.
He really is.
He's ripping the abortion of the game
a new one.
All the things he has to say
are 100% true. I agree with him
completely.
But
I still enjoyed what I saw.
He's saying the same things,
but his numbers coming out different.
That's it.
When you watch it,
maybe it's just because of Bunny Hop talking,
but he's not going on an angry rant.
I don't think he has that in him.
He's going, this is what's happening.
This is the events occurring,
and here's what I think this does
to the rest of the canon.
I can't argue.
I felt that it was true.
Both of us know the glaring flaws
and amazing highs of four,
and both of us agree
that it's placed differently.
That's just how Metal Gear is.
It's one of the few series
where it's really that nebulous.
Resident Evil, it's a lot clearer.
Everyone knows which order the
Resident Evil games go.
It's a lot clearer, but Metal Gear's
so consistently.
Everybody knows where the Street Fighter's go.
Everybody.
Are you going to argue with some dude
that says, yo, Street Fighter 2?
I will, until he says,
I mean Super Turbo.
Which is why,
when people go, yo, now to,
I go, yeah, you know what, you're fine.
You're okay in my book.
You can't argue that.
The OG that says Street Fighter 2 is also right.
Yes, he is.
I'm not so keen to agree on the Street Fighter thing.
I think probably
the core of that
is that a guy on Twitter
messaged me earlier today and said,
hey, are you guys going to listen to the tapes
and stop complaining about how there's no story?
And I think Liam and I spoke about this
after the last recording session.
And we were thinking about it.
Yeah, but not in the LP.
Those tapes are like
90 seconds long.
Even if you added
all of the tapes in the entire game.
That's like, you probably get like three or four hours.
That's one character
from Metal Gear Solid 1's
dialogue.
There are some long tapes.
There are?
How long are we talking?
There's like a 13 minute tape.
How long would you say overall the tapes are?
All the tapes combined.
All the tapes combined is probably
like five hours.
That's like two of your support team
from a CODEX.
And that's all the story.
That's the CODEX side stuff.
Like...
There's also conversations
that are not cassette tape stuff.
There are one more.
Let me jump right in there.
Whenever I see people go
if you don't want one story
fuck you.
I have been bred on
20 years of Metal Gear games
giving lots of drama
through cutscenes and movement
and voice acting
between two characters.
I have been giving two characters
for long CODEX sequences
and I understand that
some of it's in the tapes
but as a tell-all solution
to my problem of I miss this
it is a shitty to me solution.
Yeah.
Of being brought up on 20 years
like since Metal Gear Solid 1
to now it's...
It's a concession to people
that don't want to hear the long cutscenes.
It is.
I need to give you the character portraits
during the tapes that you can listen to.
And if you like the cassettes
and like the story, I can't say anything about that.
Well the cassettes are good.
They are but as a replacement
for people that really miss...
It's not an adequate replacement.
It's just not enough for me.
I don't like it when someone...
You're right. It's not an adequate replacement.
If you want the story it's all in there.
And the other...
There's...
The cassettes
at their greatest strengths
do something that Kodak Conversations
don't and can't do.
Which is moments that have nothing
to do with boss
being captured.
And think about the best part of Ground Zeroes.
Right?
You know that.
And then what you're getting here
is there's similar tapes
that you get here that are all like
those are the best tapes.
Those were bosses.
Even the ones with Huey.
Those are great.
And those are better than Kodaks.
But the ones where it is like
this is one way conversation.
Replacement are worse.
Because in Ground Zeroes when everyone's like
oh there's all this cool story in the tapes.
And for Ground Zeroes I'm like
that's totally awesome.
I was fine.
Because in my head I thought
that is how they squeeze some extra story
but then when it came to me
that it was
this is the entirety of how it's being done
entirety.
A fair percentage.
I also wouldn't be surprised if
Kojima got a few
notes from some of his
movie friends that might have said
your pacing gets stopped
when you have a
conversation moment, exposition
and then gameplay.
So you're saying you should blame Del Toro.
We're not exactly getting there
but we do have to blame him for something this week.
We'll get there.
Anyway,
but that'd be a bit of a phantom pain.
I'm anxious to see where you guys get to.
I'm very anxious to see that as well.
I still think the gameplay is like
unparalleled.
It's the fucking magic fantasy
video game.
You're the least wrong you've ever not been wrong.
That's one point that the entire internet agrees.
There's nothing to say
game play.
Over the last week I've seen three Metal Gear fans
like Bunny Hop, Gaming Brit Show
and one Marin.
Does Bunny Hop really like Metal Gear?
No.
And Marin.
You know that Marin.
All of them say the same thing.
Man, this gameplay is incredible.
Man, there's nothing to gain
by doing this gameplay because I'm not getting
what I wanted out of the story.
So I'm doing this incredible gameplay
without what I wanted.
When Liam and I beat Afghanistan
and I was like, yay, now I can go and play
in Afghanistan and my heart's content
and I did one mission and I haven't touched it since.
I read your Tumblr post mat as well
and the one thing I do have to say is that
the stuff that
has changed for the worse
unfortunately, it's the truth
that has changed for the worse
but the experience is still
good
and continuing on with it
it'll make it less sour to you.
All the good shits in the latter half.
I've been told that there's a huge plot dump
and some stuff towards the end
and I'm like, well, that's cool.
I wish that could have been paced better
the entire game.
It's not worth trashing right now.
Get to where you got to go.
We'll get farther.
And I think you'll turn around on a few things
but the negatives will remain.
Because then I'll jump in
with my reach really, really quickly though.
You know one Brock Lesnar?
I do know about Brock Lesnar.
I understand him a bit better now.
Did you just discover that you had a creepy baby voice?
Not that yet.
I understand why you focus
on your upper body
because he has piddly little, girly legs
because leg day is the hardest day
that I've ever gone through.
Every day is leg day.
I did my first leg day at the gym
and what sucks is that I use my legs.
So the next day
someone else complained like
I can't move.
My nipples are sore.
Who cares?
Leg day is fucked up.
Props to you Brock Lesnar.
Anyway, I hate it.
I am now making up excuses
to the trainer.
The trainer, I'm like, oh man.
Doesn't the trainer know about this show?
No, no, no, no.
This is a guy.
I can lie to him.
I can't work on my knee.
It's because it's so tough.
Anyway, jumping
into after that metal gear.
I don't want to say this.
I take no pleasure in this
but I'm struggling to keep doing missions.
I'm not having fun
doing these missions.
The gameplay is still great
but as I'm playing and I'm like
I'm doing the same things
over and over and over.
That side-off variety,
the front-loaded it the way they did.
You get the more...
You unlock different missions towards the end of it
and it's like you really should have spread it out.
I know that's the problem but
it's so...
It's just difficult to wrap my head in
because I barely even touched upon in that
Tumblr post that you read.
Why did it have to even be like this?
Why did they make it like this?
There's not a lot
of advantages
in being open world
rather than the novelty of
hey it's an open world metal gear and you're free to do what you want.
When it's not portable anymore
you don't need to have that.
Portable? Holy shit.
That makes so much sense to me.
Having the bite-sized missions and being like that
it totally makes sense to me
but for a console mainline game
it's not what I like doing.
It's a momentum breaker.
It's kind of a momentum breaker
but I'll leave it at that.
I still want to get towards the end
and see anything of where I place it in right now
but that's all I'll really say.
But I did something that
really you'll be interested in.
Remember a good night mommy
that creepy trailer
Austrian movie that I saw
that we had playing at the
forum right across from there.
So remember what
we talked about. Talented Mr. Ripley.
You know what another trailer
that super lied?
Because it super lied to you.
Because that trailer already
lies around. Crazy twists.
It's not. It paints
a picture of a creepy maybe
potentially supernatural thing happening
and it's more of a
But then it hints at more at the end of the trailer.
It does hint at more but it's still a trailer
that's like well there's a lot of this creepy
imagery in it
but that creepy imagery there's a context
for why it's in there. Go check out that trailer guys
it's really good. It's super creepy.
But there are things that
happen in that trailer
that are difficult to explain away.
It's actually quite easy.
When you watch I go oh that's why
that was used in the trailer. Because it looks creepy
but it actually whatever
it's just for people that don't know
it's a mom and she comes home from
surgery or something she has two sons
and something's amiss and the entire
movie takes place in one location.
Like the fucking end of the trailer
they dress up like natives and burn the
house down with sticks.
Like how can that
possibly be?
How can you handle that?
Mommy comes home with a bandage on her face.
Anyway
it was super interesting
and I liked it
but it wasn't like
oh okay it's this type of thing.
It's the type of
it's the type of movie that
makes me think of home invasion movies
where it's like there's killers
loose. This isn't the plot of this movie
but it's like there's a tense situation
happening in this location
and that's the movie. The Panic Room.
It's kind of like The Panic Room or something like that
and I recommend it. It's not
going to be easily seen by a lot of people
because it's a weird foreign movie.
It's Austrian. It's not
I recommend you fly out so much and go to the
AMC forums. Yeah exactly.
Kitty theater. Terrible theater.
I hate that theater. Me too.
It's got the love seats.
It does. I hate parts of it
other parts I like. It's too big
for the amount of people
that are in there. It can't get those love seats.
You got a movie there
with like two in the afternoon on a Monday.
It's also got like eight of my friends
working there.
So you know. On the flip side
you can clean up the
You mean did I make it worse?
Yeah. We don't clean here.
Just that's the spot
over there
for you people. On the flip side
we talked about it a few weeks ago.
I saw M Night Shyamalan's new movie
The Visit
which was a horror movie
and was pretty darn good actually.
What the hell? What was it about?
It was hey you never met your grandparents
because I've been estranged from your grandparents
why don't you go for
a visit for a week
and old people are the
scariest. It's true they are.
And it's a found footage movie
like every found footage movie
what's your reason
what's your reason for it being a
found footage movie?
Because if it's let's film
and then there's no explanation
we'll fuck you. You gotta film the last days
of grandpa's life.
The girl
that's in this brother girl pair
that go visit their grandparents
I'm an aspiring documentary
person and this is a huge
cathartic situation
we're going to go visit the parents
and she has her computer
and her laptop and she's got final cut
there that's fine
Fair enough
that's what she's working on that sort of thing
it's still not great because there's situations
where I'm like why would you be recording this
but a lot of the times
you don't need to show the catheter bag
you don't but sometimes you do
also old people very scary
because I was
there's some scenes where I'm like
there's actually a last scene
it's very very harsh
especially kids being involved
and when I said hey I watched the visit
and people are like ho ho ho
how about like this
with no context given it means nothing
but I was like oh yeah I forgot about that part
anyway very very harsh
like actually like wow
you're going for it
am I? The trees are killing us
Was it good in a way that
smelled like desperation
like I have to make
this bring me my career back
I can't name something
that's good but feels like that
that's a very weird
that's a very weird sentiment
because I don't find
like movies where
a comedian comes and does a
serious role after they've been taking
for a while
true detective
feels like that
some spots
a punch drunk
love love
something like that
guess what there's a twist in this movie
this twist doesn't try to be
come to the back of the boat
there it is
the twist doesn't try to be anything amazing
it's a nice twist
but it didn't seem to be like I have to one up
every twist the first time
that's what like the village and
happenings twists are like
he tried to go too far and they're absurd
yeah this one's fine actually
one part that I didn't like about is that
after the movies done and it's quite harsh
and then the ending of it
is very emotionally like whoa that is kind of
heavy then the credits start rolling
and then the kid in this movie
the brother and sister the brother
in the movie he's established I'm a white kid
and I love hip hop and he raps here and there
in the movie like whatever
and they have a really harsh emotional tone
and then I feel like I'm like
oh it's too harsh this is too heavy
so during the credits
the kid comes back in a funny
post credits scene
and he raps
and he's good at it
but I was like I feel like someone said
oh people are going to go out of the theater
going I don't like this
it made me feel things
and they're harsh
so put this kid over it
mugging it up
so you'll leave with a smile
like you know what is it it's like predator
predator everyone dies
they're never spoilers
except for Owen Schwarzenegger
and then during the credits they go
hey here's an action shot of someone
smiling at the camera going
yeah I did it
you know it's kind of like that
did you figure out who the devil in the elevator was
you do the dance number
you turn the page and guts and
Ricard are having a nice breakfast
yeah basically
and
I guess going on predator
I saw a comic book series that people have told me about
in the store and I went they're all here
I'll buy them all and it's this saga
that's called fire and stone
that Dark Horse put out
it's called fire and stone the first volume
is Prometheus fire and stone
aliens fire and stone
AVP and fire and stone
just predator and it's
actually really really interesting
and that it's a continuation
top building is fire and stone
yeah it starts
with a sequel to Prometheus going
what the fuck happened
let's go check out what happened
to their thing
what the Prometheus did
so another team goes down there and they're like
okay so what are we doing and then
you see the continuation of what would happen
on that planet at the end of Prometheus
and then it
springs off there into connecting
into aliens the
the movie and gets
Prometheus in there as well
then AVP is just nuts
because I don't want to go into it
but the only thing you have to think about
is what would be the interconnecting factor
out of all these species is the black
fucking goo
what happens if this black goo goes on
that thing or that thing
and that's the interconnecting thing
where the goo kind of gets
that's not canon though
the timing of this release is
pretty spot on because you're not going to have
Dark Horse already wrote like 20 years ago
the reason the aliens and predators are like
it's because they're from the same planet
well just two scripts are about to drop
that'll retcon the shit out of whatever you just read
because what I read
what I read I'm just finishing off
I'm just finishing off the predator
Ridley Scott is burning it as you read it
Ridley who?
I'm just finishing off the predator thing
and I actually think this stuff is really really good
actually
the aliens one is particularly strong
and it's a different writer each time
they're all like they're all solid to great
I was just like there's one thing
where it's just like two characters are talking
a lot over like a war
that's happening back on me this is even an odd
place to talk about life
and the meaning of the universe
but it's still interesting
like
what if the black goo goes on
David the android
nothing we already saw that
no he didn't
no he holds in his hand in Prometheus
no he didn't get injected into him
he has it on his fingertip
he's looking at it
not go on but inject
well considering he's purely mechanical
the answer should be nothing
he's not life so yeah
what
he turns into a monster
you don't know what the black goo can do
nothing should happen
but something well
I know
his space changes so slightly that you don't have to use the likeness
that's for the man
even ash or bishop are like not
but you're talking about a movie that gave
no answers to questions
in itself posed
Ridley Scott really fucked it up because everything we've talked about
for the entire Aliens franchise
since Prometheus came out is how do we fix
Prometheus
and kind of a good answer
just erase it
that works for me
go read the art book and put the shit that
no but it's like put the shit
in the movie back in
fix the shit you change
that's always the answer
and then the blu-ray made it worse
it's gonna get real confusing when
resurrection and three get retconned
out to hell
we'll touch back on to this
it was actually a really solid read and if you guys ever want
I can just pass it to you because I thought
there's some cool stuff going on in here
and it uses characters
is that that sassy black lady from AVP
no
there's a sassy white guy
no
it's not quite the same
there's a scummy asshole
that's in the entire series
he's always in a bit
you see him going fuck you
and drive off and then the next comic
starts with him like yeah I fucked everyone over
I don't care
these people are dead
can you apply the word sass
to like white guy
he's acting like a sassy black woman
but he's gotta be
he's gotta be doing the play
black people that own sass
they're just really sass
absolutely
and when you put the stereotypes on
and stuff
you get a plus one on your character
that pharmaceutical CEO douchebag
you need to be at least this sass to say that
that pharmaceutical CEO douchebag guy
he's just being real sassy
and yeah I'm also playing
Undertale and it's
it's joy in a bottle
and that's all I'll have to say
would you say it's lightning in a bottle
if the guy does a second game
it's only by one guy so if he does a second game
and it's just a good game
I've never laughed harder
I am also playing Undertale
that's crazy that both of you are playing Undertale
we are at a similar distance in the game
I like it a lot
I hope it really
ramps up because I like it a lot
but it really has to stick that
people are telling me that it does get better
oh I heard exactly
because you see the gimmick and you're like
this is funny but yeah
no exactly so like two arcs
in or whatever and it's like yeah
it's real good so far but yeah
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I was catching up on
corpse party book of shadows
was that the one on the beach?
no
is that the one that just came out?
so the new one comes out on the 13th of october
this is the second one
for the psp
after the first one
you have whatever characters survive
a romp is
ember island prayers
a teen sex romp is
ember island prayers until dawn
I know what you did last summer
but that's the horror variant
a bunch of teens
around each other and being hot
you know like
corgore is not a romp
well there isn't one of them that is a teen sex romp
no not at all
like you want to categorize hatred
as being a teen sex romp
the reason I asked
is because pooper buttering
it was a gag line
even in the first place
it's come to define it
so yeah
the first game takes place in this haunted
well haunted
it's way more haunted
it's real bad
and at the end a handful of characters survive
the second game takes place after it
and it picks up right out of the gates
where you're hanging out with one of your buddies
and you're like
didn't you die in that school
like didn't you not make it out alive
and then eventually stuff
plays out and you end up getting pulled
back into the school
and you're trying to undo events that would have
happened and stuff
and it's a really interesting retread of it
it's a different genre
really it's not like a top down
so the first one is grid based
roots of RPG maker
and such
the second one is a visual novel where you can open up a map
and go to places in the school
but it's the same map
that actually sounds like I would enjoy that a lot more
than the first one
kind of
and that's kind of how it goes and I'm really interested
and it's really fun and stuff changing
in ways where I'm like
where is this gonna go now
because I already know how it was supposed to end
but we did a thing
and I hope I can finish that in time for the 15th
I think I will
it's super good
I think you guys should try it because you like it
I don't know if you like horror things
I'm gonna need to go back and play corpse hardy 1
because if it's a time travel beat the events
shit
oh yeah you can't go 2 to 1
and like playing the third game would be tricky
that's also a PSP game that's playable on Vita and VitaTV right
yeah absolutely
they're supposed to be on sale next week
I don't want to get into corpse party
and then perhaps 2
and maybe the third one if you're feeling daring
I think they're supposed to be on sale next week
so if you're interested
I'm gonna throw your own
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like hey woolly I'm looking to get into street fighter
yeah
where should I start
at 1
at 1
for about a minute
I played a handful of other games
just going back to old stuff but nothing really of note
but the other thing is
I know this is not the kickstarter section of the podcast
what
we actually don't have one this week
oh well that's a shame because there's a huge kickstarter
going on right now
so there's a kickstarter up right now
for the mauve love trilogy
to be localized into English
and this trilogy woolly
is the definition of
goes to space
so in the first game
mauve love is like a regular
whatever
yeah go on
the first game is like
it feels like that high school
like dating whatever thing
and then eventually in the second game
it's like okay no war is happening
and then in the third game it's like
okay no space war is happening
and this game
this game goes to mech
places this game goes to every
places I don't want to spoil it for people who don't know
like when you say
yeah I have seen mech pictures
everyone has
that's the one thing I know about it
is that there's mech involved
and that's about all I got
so yeah they're working on localizing this right now
and you can look at the amounts
it's a smashing success right now
what are they at right now
they're at 442k
250 with
like an only five days of past
so they're killing it but yeah
wanna show this cause
it's like an awesome game definitely worth
playing at some point
if you're interested in a crazy story that does go to
space
it's not cheap though cause you are paying for three games
so it's like
$60 for all three which is like 20 bucks
a piece but for some people that is a lot
but you can testify that they're good
not just me
look at the amount of money that's getting
that's for a reason
I was worried that it was cause I was following it
on Prefundia
you know that website for people to put up
their Kickstarter campaigns before
the campaign
it's a site so you can just start
getting interest around
exactly
I was following it on that and I was really worried
that it would just kind of come out
and just like face plant
I didn't think it would take off to this level
I didn't think there was this many people keen on it
but low and behold there's
that billions
that's an interesting idea
test the waters Kickstarter page
yeah basically there's no money involved
none of that just like hey sign up
and we'll notify you when we're good
and you get a little notification and we're good now
so yeah check that out really cool
check out Corpse Party real cool
otherwise I'm excited for dancing all night
which showed up in my doorstep this
morning but I did not have a minute to play it
so is that out digitally
or tomorrow right? Tuesday
then I will buy that on my Vita TV and turn that
Vita TV on for the first time in forever
you should play it
you can play anything on your Vita TV
oh I don't even need to do that
man here you talk about that Kickstarter stuff
it's total bummer it's not part of my week
but like do you see the unsung story
and Project Phoenix
are both of those projects
I backed I think you backed them as well
absolutely
so for unsung story
for unsung story I'm still just going to hang on
until we see something
because there's not enough information
for Project Phoenix
the only thing I'll say is we know that
they spent $200 but they still have $750
yeah so I forget which one it is
I believe it's
one of them said
okay one of the problems
we listed in our
was missing the program
that was Project Phoenix
guess what the programmer we wanted to get
we didn't get him
so the whole thing's basically on hold
until we can get that guy
you know I'm still
I put a
scathing comment on their Kickstarter
a few weeks ago actually
but I'm still like now they've said
we still have $750k of the million
it's like okay okay you're not
sorry explain this
what's happening
so the Project Phoenix one is kind of
it's not sputtering so much as it feels
like it still hasn't even gotten off the ground
neither of them have gone anywhere the entire time
like year plus
they put off like a little like
demo of it and it just doesn't even look
great it doesn't look particularly interesting
though in their defense it is exactly
what they described
and for Unsung Story
I don't think there's been anything
they've shown nothing has there been updates
there's been updates for Unsung Story
they were really slow not really
like there have been updates
but nothing that of
substance except for the one
from Phoenix that was like guys
this is the worst thing that could happen
they put out a
really comprehensive one for Project Phoenix
that was like this is where we're at for everything
in the game in percentages
and numbers
so it's just kickstarter games
they get grouped together because they're both the bigger
and these are Japanese both of them
well one wants to be Japanese
but it's actually western
but it feels like these are the first
two Kickstarter games that I personally back
that there's a
relatively high chance that one
or both are just not going to come out
well no actually the thing about Unsung Story
is they're releasing their multiplayer beta very soon
they confirmed that didn't they
I believe they did but that's not the
no I know but
when I hear that that's always the one where
like
it's coming you know these things they take
time
and I'm not saying they haven't taken a long time
for sure but like
it's been what a year
it takes a long time
but I think one of them has passed their release date
and is still like
hasn't shown the game
and honestly I'm frustrated at how
much these two run together in my mind
because they both
they both showed up around the same time
a similar time
within a few months and they both had similar pitches
and like
I can't tell the difference between either of them
and I back them so I feel stupid
but
I've been doing like adult responsible things
with some of my weeks
no I have I was just texting somebody
about it just now
hey I'm doing adult responsible things right now
that'll come up later
if anything goes well
I'm talking about business
business
so I'm gonna skim over this as fast as possible
I played
a lot of Final Fantasy
and in
what is the most disgusting
deaths of
I'm so remember
when I started playing it and you were like oh you're in
oh god
so there's something interesting
that happens to MMOs that doesn't really happen
in other games it doesn't happen to fighting games
it's the best analogy here
so they recently came out and did a show
and said okay so that big content patch 3.1
everyone was expecting them
to announce it for this week
it got announced for the first week
of November
the next night you just see
all the cities empty
out and you see
people in your free company going put me on vacation
I'm cancelling myself
for a month
and you go from having like
250 people online every day
like hey who wants to run that
down to 35
and guess what it gets really hard to run hard bosses
when you have a pool of 35 people
yeah
some of which are not very good
so what do you do
I still want to play it but I can't fucking
I'll just spend the time and I'll
start crafting and mining
and all that shit
time to make new accounts on other computers
so you can artificially fill your party
that's the great time for the real fun
which is hitting rocks
hitting rocks all day
I've been hitting rocks all week
I actually enjoy hitting rocks
but fuck that
you know what you do when you hit rocks
TNG
that's why you're getting those
I came out of Pat's place
and he's like hey
I think my internet should be fine but I'm not
torrenting anything
I would never torrent anything
he saw my totally
legal downloads of
TNG which are large
there's like 500 gigs
dude you're in torrenting
no no no it's
my totally legal cool downloads
anyway
so those first two seasons
man this is the first time I've gotten
to them in the modern era
I watched it again like 10 years ago
holy shit
I finally get to see what's happening
in those first two seasons
they're trying to make the original series
again
it's so cheap
it's cheap it's fucking cheap
and in the blu-ray restoration
you get to see like holy shit
the quality is terrible
they lost a bunch of the mic data
so they'll be
panning it
and like Riker's dubbed
because he's too far in the back
so they dubbed him
you know those first two seasons
they have so many away
missions on like the worst
sets ever like it's
literally a soundstage with some fog
that a fog machine is pumping
and then they stop it
and they're like no just have it happen a lot
on the Enterprise
there's a quality to it that I don't know what it is
but it's like the original series
you have to watch
for TNG you have to watch it as well
but it's also background-able
in a way that the original series isn't
I don't know
there's less fights
you can kind of just listen
but like everything about those first two seasons
or season one in particular
like Jordy's not the chief engineer
I hate how everyone's colors are wrong
everyone's colors are not
wharfs make up
wharfs were in red and my face
fucking exploded
wharfs make up in season one
is fucking terrible
and it's not much better in season two
so you get to season three and what happens
the uniforms change
and they get the padded shoulders and the collar
the half inch collar
and all of a sudden everyone looks great
instead of looking like they're wearing pajamas
Roddenberry starts to get ill
around the beginning of season three
no longer the lead writer
episode I was watching today
remember that episode where they go to the planet
and those fucking racist-ass Irish drunks
come up with all their animals
and then they go to the clone planet
and the clone planet steals their clones
and they're like why don't the Irish fucks
with too many babies go live with you fucking
weirdo clone people
yeah guess what they're terrible
are they written by Rick Berman
they're fucking terrible
what's with all these wrecks
but in watching this
I was reminded of what I believe to be
the absolute worst Star Trek episode of all time
which is that
it's not the one where Janeway
and Paris
get turned into lizards and fuck and have lizard babies
it's not the one
where Jordy
has like a creepy holodeck wife
and then the girl
and then the girl finds out about it
and she's like uh uh
it's not like the
series finale of deep space nine
which is terrible
it's an episode called pen pals
and it's an episode in which data
they're going into some part of the galaxy
where all these planets are exploding
and data hears a little girl with her radio
and she says help hey anybody out there
and he starts a fucking pen pal relationship
that's a month long
and then they get all prime directory
because her plan is going to explode
and it's like but my friend though
and they have the worst moment in Star Trek
in which they all sit around
in a fucking room smelling their own fucking farts
going
with Ryker going maybe it's the height of hubris
if there's a cosmic plan
that we just let this planet explode
and all these people die
and they all just go well
with a prime directive though
are we supposed to
fucking Picardi goes well what if it's a geological disaster
should we save them
and no one says anything but it's implied yes
what about a disease and you go well maybe
what if it's a war and you go well no
and then he goes like
see how hard it is
no it's super easy
their planet's just going to blow the volcanoes
and you're all just going like
well you can't interfere with the planet right
they constantly interfere all the time on planets
in season one
Wesley trips over that fucking fence
yeah on that planet
on Hitler sex planet
and then they're like
we're going to fucking kill Wesley right now
and he's like I can't let you do that
and then everyone's like what about the prime directive
he's like well
for Wesley I gotta make an exception
because he's my friend
so you'll save fucking Wesley
after he goes to some planet
and breaks all their laws on the perfect sex planet
you won't save this whole planet from
it's terrible it's like
is that a season where
Wesley was in uniform
and he's wearing his fucking Christmas Gansi
this fucking Christmas sweater
the fucking great thing that looks like he's wearing
a Christmas fucking sweater
and here's the fun part that you only realize
when you watch all the seasons
in a row not like syndicated
Wesley's only in season one and two
now he comes back
he comes back in season seven
for one episode
because he went with the traveler
in season seven
where most of you don't remember this
to get bad out there
in the episode in which Picard
goes to the Native American planet
the United Federation of Planets
gave to all the Native Americans
as a
sorry we're bad
and then Picard's like oh it's too close to the neutral zone
we gotta move them all off
and they're like naw
and then Wesley's like a huge traitor
and he screams at him and then
Wesley goes off to fucking space with light speed
traveler whatever
and then in that episode
I think the game
they get addicted to that fucking
game
dude those first two seasons
are so fucking bad
they're so bad
why can't they make up their mind about
what Deanna wears
she changes costumes like four times
and that one captain says
yo this thing's too fucking sexy
where the fucking blue medical thinks
because you are
getting psychological help
so you are medical
so you find out when you watch these things
in a row you discover things
like shut up wharf
are you guys familiar with that
yeah yeah there's a video
there's a video
every time wharf
ever suggested anything
in the entire series
they always told him to shut up
shut up wharf
every single time
and then in the end
he is never listened to a single time
and you also discovered that Deanna Troy
exists so that
the screenwriter can say
can add fake tension
because in a totally normal situation
where you have to write it
instead she goes I feel
I feel
something
and the worst part is
is her race the betazoids
they're full on 100%
so she's a half beta said
so that she can only get
so she can't go to
I feel it
I feel it
if anything
she's a huge problem
get a full betazoid
why would you ever go for that
so many of those episodes
are terrible
the first episode of season 2
is the one where she gets space pregnant
like Jesus
no that only happened the one time
or people want to get her pregnant
a lot of people want to get her pregnant
and that fucking horrible episode
with that peace talker
who has the three people that speak for him
and they get blown up
and he's doing sign language
like how will ever do the peace
so yeah just no sense of continuity
in my brain because it was just
catch whatever is on ABC 22
here's the best piece of continuity
where you get to see where the Borg
actually happened and where they came from
and they came from a huge writing failure
so in season 1
and you've all seen this episode because it's the best
the second and last episode of season 1
is where you find out that the federation
conspiracy subplot is those fucking
worm things
that are eating into people's brains
and they're super strong
and you remember they blow up that fucking commander
at the end Renek and it's
incredibly gory
they explode his chest and his head explodes
and then a huge monster
comes out of his chest and they blow it away
so that was supposed to be
the threat forever
for like the ongoing number one threat
of everything and so that episode
ends with like and then they sent out a message
in a deep space and
what happened and then a couple episodes later
they go to the uterus and I was like oh the
the colonies have gotten all the
scooped out what could do this
and then in season 2 they finally commit to it
it's like no it was the Borg
they just dropped that spotlight
they wanted some
super alien other and it was going to be the parasites
and then they said
Borg
we're going to do Borg
do you know why they got rid of Crusher
for two seasons for no reason
and then they replaced her with that old
old old lady?
she's in the first episode and she's nearly
immediately replaced by Pulaski who's the old lady
and then she comes back full time in season 3
do you know why that happened?
because Crusher the actress had
real problems with the writers
at the time he says you write all our women characters
horribly and I hate it
she's right and it's true
so then they go fuck you we can replace
you we can't replace the writer
so they just replace her with the old
lady Pulaski who then
she just goes away
and Crusher is back
and she never has a send off episode
because then they finally
actually fired that writer
and then he said well we actually
value her a lot better
because all the other women complained
so they got rid of that writer
and then she came back
Troy is not a great character but her character
dramatically improves in season 3
this is the second time you started watching
CNG on the podcast
you find new things every time
now here's my question
have you ever watched
Enterprise like once?
never
I watched
one episode of Enterprise
I walked by and dad was watching it on tv
and it was the episode in which they
ran into the proto-borg
and like every
part of my brain started to scream
how none of that made any sense at all
maybe you should just watch it
maybe I should just watch it
the ending makes it all make sense
you know the ending of
I do know the ending of Enterprise
that's what it deserves
the ending
of the first season
of Enterprise
is like one of the most offensive
shock twists ever
in which it discovers that like blue aliens
had actually
time traveled back in time
and then were the genesis for Hitler's rise to power
oh yeah
they go back in time to fight space Nazis
for multiple episodes
now to be fair that's a strong threat
that's a strong threat
you know Cork
you must remember Cork for CSI
he's the first Ferengi to ever have a line
in Star Trek
in episode 5 of TNG
he's the guy they need to add on the planet
the actor
he's the first guy they run into
let's have a good Ferengi character
they went all the way back
I recognize that guy's voice
he's a career actor
he's some guy
so a year from now
again
maybe I'll rewatch Voyager
first you might often be thinking about
like a few months ago
I did the same thing
you started watching yeah I remember
oh also
when I got to refinished
it's done for it
it ends as like well we're going to next year high school
so it will continue
I had spoke to several people
who could not watch it
the final episode
I was too scared of what was going to happen
just watch it
trust me on this
it probably
all works out in the end
and you'll be really happy that you watched it
very much
are you describing Berserk
or a fucking
I'm describing all the romance anime
Berserk
what happened nothing
everything's fine
everything worked out for the best
what the hell is that dude doing
he's 21
that show's alright
that show's great
I started losing interest around episode
like 17
too sweet for you
no nothing was happening
oh they're together
oh there's
they're together
am I good enough arc that has to happen
after they're already together
I've seen it before
I'm watching reruns
nothing's happening
I don't want to bring it back
but I'm playing Metal Gear
I thought you were going to say adventure time
I mean it's a good show
it's really good actually
I've tried to get into other ones
in previous seasons
and I wouldn't even get that far usually
I brought it up last week
but the reason why I ended up watching
all of Karakano
was because my friend was like
do you want to see what Hidiakiano did
after Evangelion
I was like yeah
he knew what he wanted
he knew what he wanted
it was a happy good time man
that's not my week
that's what happens in Star Trek
a lot of hitting rocks
that happens every now and then
more often than you'd expect
or that canister falls on Worf
something that I found out
that
you guys were talking about Destiny
over the last couple weeks
and there was a moment where we were talking about
the new content
and you mentioned how
the new stuff with
the Peter Dinklage robot
okay
did you mention at the time that he got replaced
did he got replaced?
did he got replaced?
okay
I remember hearing like
those lines are all fixed now and they're better
didn't remember hearing that it was a different actor
I thought he was recording
and the reason was that
of course he wanted
to go with Peter Dinklage again
because everyone loves him so much
but he had scheduling conflicts
at which point what did you think was going to happen
so we got the voice actor
equivalent of a Band-Aid
to come in
in all fairness
he did it better
and that I have a link
what I mean is that
there were no scheduling conflicts
you just didn't want to use them again because nobody liked them
so you brought in a Band-Aid
because voice acting isn't always the same as acting
and that like leads
into that whole fucking performance matters
performance matters thing
where long story short
we'll get into details but like voice actors
and motion capture actors are like
yo stop fucking us
we're going to make a union
because I wasn't too sure what this was
and then I did some, I looked into it a bit
and the gist of the story is really
that the contracts that voice actors
signed for video games
haven't changed since like the mid 90s
and it's why a lot of voice actors
had different names
they had different
James Flinders
he's credited
to get around
there's all kinds of weird stuff that goes on
but the biggest
the big ones are really that
obviously they're not treated the same as actors
in a movie
they're an afterthought
there have been statements from companies that have basically
understated the importance of voice acting
Konami, Jim position this week is literally
and one of those things is like
Konami has the balls to come out
repeatedly and say the voice actors don't matter
here's a press release of them
showing off that they got a key for Sutherland
and in many cases
where obviously
it's different from recording something in 1996
nowadays you get it to the set
and they're like good put on the mocap scene
and you're like but I'm a booth actor
I don't do that shit
they're like well you're fired
you shouldn't have signed up for the game
they didn't draw a line between them
this game is 90 hours long
versus a game in 96
which might have been 6 hours long
and that was a big one
and with over 25 minutes of live action cut scenes
don't forget the DLC
big parts of it are about
exposing limits on how much voice actors
can record
requirements on
being clear
on whether they have to do mocap or not
just making a distinction between
the jobs as separate jobs
they are totally different jobs
you don't even need to think about it
Troy Baker and all North jump to mind
as accomplished voice actors
and accomplished motion capture artists
but not everyone can do both
some people have wild strengths in one
other
Melissa Hutchinson is a good example
she could not have done the mocap
for god damn clementine
she's an adult lady
and one of the other things is about
getting small royalties
for hitting sales milestones on games
which is like yeah that's fair
which is exactly what happens in other media
like the Konami thing with Guy Seehe
and all the Silent Hill actors
for decades
was our deal say royalties
and Konami would go like
wasn't it Grand Theft Auto 4
where the voice actor was like
this made a bajillion-gatillion
dollars and I got nothing
I didn't get paid shit
because it's basically like voice actors
through in video games
they're treated more like staff than they're treated
like actors on this project
so yeah the guild
the unions
they all strike one on strike
and performance matters is the hashtag
like being shared by
many voice actors
it's a totally legit story
I'm very interested to see
what happens because this is the kind of thing
do you remember what happened
in the movies when the writers guild went on strike
movies got shitty
for like a whole year
we got Dr. Horrible out of that though
yeah
are we just going to see
an entire calendar year
of games that just have
the worst voice acting ever
because they're all going
to like scabs and first-timers
I really can't feel my body right now
yeah
Sterling uses that to go high
cause it's the worst
like yeah
it's the worst
I don't know I wouldn't mind a year of that
not one year
or the large circle
that fucking has to be the life cycle
that must be protected
that's the best
I'm very interested in seeing
what happens this is one of those inevitable things
that will happen for our industry
what I'm more interested though
is not this it's like
is this going to push like the games business
to properly unionize
well guess what though this is different in the sense that
one like the movie situation
here we have like with movies
you've got like five giant studios
and multiple production companies underneath that
and with video games
it's like an infinite number
of studios and production companies
so like you're going to see
restitution but you're going to see it
like slowly starting
in one company and working to
then you're going to start to see shit where it's like
are you part of the what was it called
the guild for voice acting
voice actor or skilled or what have you
and they're going to be like
if you don't work
if you don't work with Vash
then we'll blacklist you
in the future big company
and then like that'll be the dark era
there's problems that can happen
and there's a couple things in their demands
that aren't great Jim Sterling mentioned one
it's like they said that
the super goal is to have the union
and the guild and all that
and you can't hire your own staff
you got to hire out of the voice acting school
that's teamsters
that's like I can't build my own deck
well that's like
Nintendo of America for a long time
has been using their localization staff
as voice actors
I'm like
arbitrarily saying all of a sudden
you can't do that
the real thing is like indie devs would get
slaughtered by that
they just can't even afford it
that's the same as independent film where they just get around
they just say fuck it
and nobody really cares
was MGS 1
the first game that
credited the voice actors
at the beginning of the game
it credits them with the wrong names
some of the names are right though
some of them are right
David Hader was correct
I think it's the first one
to my knowledge yes
because no PC games that I can think of
that had no voice actors
Half-Life 1 was the first PC game
to my knowledge
to do credits
but that was development staff
I remember Fate of Atlantis has an opening credits crawl
also maybe
but I can't remember if they have the voice actors
do you mean just properly as in
always at the front because I'm pretty sure
other games most accredited voice actors
he means open at the beginning of the game
like a movie would
like a movie would
when I first saw that game running
at a friend's house I went
it's a movie
like it blew your mind
before I even seen the game
sitting in the back of church
one Saturday my friend told me the whole story
while I was just like
I don't understand what you're saying
how is this a video game
and he's telling me about the conversations
and stuff and I'm like that's not a game
like you're lying
that is the created thing
that's made up
but to continue talking about movies
good luck to those folks
I hope they get the most of their demands
and it works out well for everybody
it works out well for everybody
but if they get a bunch of their demands
quality of voice acting will likely increase
let's begin
the God Blights Liam
segment of the podcast
it doesn't happen too often
the last one was type zero
we're going to start with the
saddening of the world
that comes from Guillermo del Toro's twitter
can I set this up
because this made me want to kill myself twice
that's the
I got special and people that know
it's like they got it special
the phrase that I saw
that hit me first
was that Ito
was going to work on Silent Hills
and my brain went
Masahiro Ito
the creature designer from Silent Hill
oh my god that'd be amazing
and then I clicked the link
the inferior designer
the inferior Ito
and then I clicked the link
and I was like no it was going to be Jujito
just way better
twice in like 10 seconds
like
why'd you even open your mouth Guillermo
why'd you do this
shut up
I was so upset
and then I thought about it a little bit
and I was like man Jujito's
last book sucked
maybe I'm not as upset
and that tweet led me on to believe
but like
it was worse
it sucks I tried rereading it
fragments of horror
I tried rereading it yesterday
and I was like man this is his worst work
design and story wise
I'm still torn
because there's still the chance it could have been his best work ever
but not quite as torn
as the initial read in
we don't need this trend going onward
into the future with like
also Platinum was signed on to do some work on it
and we're going to
sign the boss fight
like what was this project
like we had
Silo Hills
she was going to do the music
Silo Hills was to contain
the remainder of Berserk
like what
I think a person that worked on this stuff
says these things to
yeah not piss people off
but go yeah rally
even more behind it
and maybe it'll come out
that's the only reason I could see
that ruins your dad
I hope man if they are able to
you know everyone's been talking about it
hopefully they can come together and make something happen
hopefully they just make a fucking horror game by themselves
like if they can get Junji Ito
and if he can deliver like his best work
or like equivalent
like it'd be the scariest fucking thing in the world
we're getting concept art done by the Vagabond guy
just like
fucking add to the list
it's the way I hate that
every frame of the game is drawn by the Vagabond guy
with Junji Ito over his shoulder
every possibility
I can understand
like being part of that process
and wanting to be like guys that would have been the greatest
yeah of course
you win things by playing
like vanilla where I was going to do some cut scenes
come on what do you
how are we supposed to feel Guillermo
what do you want from Mons
of course
he just wants us to feel as sad as he does
like
like in that there's so few games
that I feel like hit that
like perfect grouping
like it would be like if
Yoko Taro had tweeted like oh the second
the near sequel was cancelled
oh and Platinum was doing the gameplay
like later they tweaked that out
yeah exactly like it's that kind of thing
oh my god dude
there's so few perfect team ups that ever
happen
that like when it does happen you're like
you're gonna drag Hitchcock Skeleton
and have him direct
this cancelled Metal Gear game
was actually gonna be a side story about
Cyborg Riding in the future
oh my god
also it was gonna be
made by Platinum
and here's an unreleased soundtrack
from the fucking games
now when you put out that statement it says we can do Metal Gear
without Kojima
and it just hit me
because I've been very dismissive of that
like these fucking bullshit
it just
no that's canon that's part of the main series
but that's Platinum it's different
and Kojima signed off
he was on that team shut up
it hit me what game it would have to be
and there is one
there's multiple there's many
and it's the would be MGS5
from like six seven years ago
the in between Riding in Revengeance
no where it's the boss in World War 2
no I don't want to go there
there's so many other places
Kojima might not have
anyone else would
but I don't even like but like Pat said earlier
I don't even think we
it's too cool of a concept you can't do it
there's so many other places to go before
here's what you can do
it could probably fix the Cobra Unit
yeah man I could
but add sacrifice to the joy
and I it's just
there's almost no chance you could ever
this Cobra Unit is perfect
yeah the Fury
oof
Fury's great dude
I don't think so
there's a lot of obvious ones
like Rising 2 for example
and then like
I can't say anything
I'm not even going to list them but like you could remake all the other games
you could just remake them on the Fox engine
Platinum Staffer reveals Activision
cancelled their Spider-Man game
wait is that real
that's not
oh sorry there's Spider-Gwen game
there we go
I'm like Spider-Gwen
like and you could do like Acid 3
and stuff like there's other places to go
you could not though
you could but you shouldn't
I think they should
you guys didn't even play though
this will alright actually
I don't know the last time I read about it
they did poorly
they already told me to say
they did two games by Nintendo
sure but I read the last time
that they sold poorly
Ghost and Babel 2 before Acid 3
that's what I say
so and then continuing
Liam's Blights we have
I fear Konami's name
on the Ogath now
well there's some bad news for you this week
are you at the point now where when you see the word
Konami you
you just you're like uh oh something bad's going to happen
pull the lever
pull the lever
Jesus
Cha-ching
Cha-ching
anyway
does this have to do with Sony in person
yeah it does, guess what
the climate's not healthy
so yeah I want to preface this
so yeah it was at EGX
and someone asked Shirei Yoshida
like hey Vita 2 when's it happening
and he goes on and he
he basically heavily infers that there's no Vita 2
nah man probably not
I see a lot of people saying
Liam on Suicide Watch and all I'm going to say
is anyone who thought there was going to be
a second one after spring of
2014 was crazy
doesn't it suck to get some confirmation though
still not con
I mean it sucks but it's like
anyone like I knew
everyone who knew
you felt it
the only hand held flame left
becomes Nintendo
so let's hope they hammer it
and the next one
it's not fading
pull the lever
maybe they'll invest in a device that'll
match the PSP
you know what I mean
and in our next generation
if we're lucky they'll surpass the PSP
a hand held to surpass the PlayStation
but yeah and then
the reasons why I listed it is because of
the huge dominance of mobile gaming
like they're not even wrong
like there's so many reasons
that like it didn't go great
and I could like talk for an hour
I could talk for hours about it but like
the main reason is it's because the system was bad
and the games were bad and the developers
were lazy when they made Vita games
basically
that's uh
for
put the worm on the hook
I don't think
I've seen such like a devastating
blow to a platform
from its first year
like the Vita's first year was so bad
it was really bad
just in terms of performance
and in terms of third parties jumping on
and stuff
it felt like a hand held to Wii U
not as bad as the real Wii U
the performance was so bad in the first year
like there was no recovery to be made
and like a lot of people say well Sony should have
just made more games but you look at the sales of the games
didn't matter
you didn't matter how many games you threw at it
should have had side talking
soul sacrifices
month one sales matched kill zones
and they were 46,000
like it's pathetic
it says there's 46,000 people out there
like you and me that were buying those games
plus you're going hey it's the successor
to the PSP
and then the question is
can I hack it
it's so better than the 3DS has
I'm not even a huge PSP fan
but it was a success
hack PSP is the greatest hand held
what I mean is that you're hot off
the heels of not the biggest
like you're already
like your expectations are going to be this high
Monster Hunter could have saved it
that's the only thing
and it wouldn't have saved it in the west
remember that guy
he used to surround wrap his PSP
for protection
for sex
was that feelings
no that was an emotion
feelings
I said feelings he says emotions
we know who we're talking about
it's a bummer but until
it actually dies
they're going to release a firmware update
that bricks it on purpose
fuck
I don't know it still got years ahead
I was with someone
yesterday when we were going up to a restaurant
an Italian restaurant
a guy I mentioned to you earlier
and he looks up at the name of the restaurant
and he goes
dude
that's fine
I still think
my favorite of those stupid ass
console image macros ever
was the PS3 at a bar
and he looks at a hot girl
and he goes hey baby how you doing
and she goes get out of my face
and then PS3 just shrugs
and looks at the center of the image
and says PS3 has no game
I think that's really the best one
okay no what we got to do
is immediately after this podcast
go check out Castle Vidcons
and see what they have to say
what do you mean after this pod
check that out
because that Castle Vidcons
is the final word
dudes you're looking on your phones
but it's right here on the screen
oh it's your wallpaper
like straight up
if you don't know about Castle Vidcons
it is the final say on all video games
yeah no the last update was June 16
oh wow
Bomber, Castle Vidcons is the best
if you haven't read that comic
you should read that comic it's the fucking sickest
every year
it puts out one comic
and every other comic should drop
there is one large problem with Castle Vidcons
and it's going to it now
and it's that it's out of pace with events
so like
there will be this amazing like the fucking
king nintendo
kills his former wife the DS light
like gag
but you don't quite get it because
the new 3DS
hasn't just been announced like two years ago
this is like still an ff7 remake
yeah exactly
no it's the peri bible fellowship
of the video game one piece
absolutely fantastic
not going to get better but you're not going to get an update either
a lot of people keep linking me
this bad kotaku article
by jason schreyer that's like
wow those two things go hand in hand
stop linking that that article sucks
what's it about
it's just about the vita statements
it's about that and it's like this is why sony killed the vita
and it's like
yeah I think it's like 60 to 70% on sony's
plate but your reasons are the wrong ones
so
reasons is because people didn't buy it
well there's that but there's a lot of reasons
and for some reason he's listing the wrong ones
and it's like
oh right
you clicked on it
yeah I did
I was the one who
you were in the wrong
the kotaku review of sex instead
yeah exactly that was
I don't fucking know
they said it takes a lot of energy I don't know
it does but they wrote a review
they wrote a review on sex
isn't that kind of a broad topic
a little bit
well if anything
your mileage will vary with this activity
so you know that episode of tng
where it finds out that Barclay's been having sex
with halldeck versions of all of the bridge stuff
we're like
a couple years from that
in the real world
with the creepy oculus porn
and the sex robots
that's gonna be awkward when like
don't you want to go to church? no I want to make out with my
Marilyn Monroe bot
I like how you're saying that but I can hear
in your voice
I can hear it
just kill me now
the fucking bank account is ready
Liam I need to take
side photos of your head
no not those
wasn't that gonna be the scariest thing
where people aren't trying to get
upskirt or fucking bra shots
people are walking on the street and trying to stand
perfectly next to you
to get a fucking
side mug shot
oh god the future's horrible
Oculus support for Source Filmmaker
coming soon there it is
we're all done we're all done
Prometheus 2 is called
Alien Paradise Lost
this didn't make enough money
we need to put Alien in the title now
more importantly
blah blah blah blah
Ridley is specifically
making sure that Alien 5
cannot come out
until this comes out first
and that is
annoying but it's like you know what
let the shit hit the fan
is it referred to as
Alien 5 in that
yes right now I think it was
yeah it's the Neil Blumkamp movie
how
Alien 5 is like being explicitly
created as a new Alien 3
and they're calling it Alien 5
no just right now that's all that's
the Neil Blumkamp movie it erases
3 and there's erection for history
yeah they're calling it 5
that's dumb
should they call it Aliens 2
they should call it Aliens
should we go Rambo on this
and call it an Alien like
it should be called we hired Michael Bean back
you're the Aliens
you know he's in it right
he's going to prize Sroll's Hicks
that part where I got fucked up by
Steel Bean that was bullshit
oh wait no he didn't die colonial marines told us
he didn't die he didn't die
he died in the beginning where Tony Alien 3
was in the beginning of 3
no Aliens said no
colonial marines said no he's alright
he died from something else
just Benny Hill themed that in reverse all the way back up
that probably sounds horrific
uh yeah so
um I
you know what they're doing you know what they're doing
they're trying to make the Alien cinematic universe now
exactly exactly and um
just brings the bile back
lost as a reference to
John Milton's epic poem called the same thing
and it's obviously
like based on the fact that
the last movie had the audacity to set
itself up for a sequel
we know that this is going to be
on the other
adventures of Lizbeth Salander and her head
and her ending exactly
and it's just like you know what it's not that
that can't be a bad movie because
Michael Fassbender was probably the best part of that
film he'd be a great talking
but I'm running
I don't have faith in Ridley Scott anymore
that fucking hurts to say
it really hurts to say that
Ridley Scott very very spotty track record
but I still chalk up Prometheus
was that Linda Love's fault
it's mostly his fault
but he's the writer
and he actually like goes on twitter and argues
with people like no I wrote a good movie
you shut up because what I remember
in the fallout that it right after
came out was that
the director was saying oh we just got to wait
for the director's cut you know
you were saying yeah exactly
like the kingdom of heaven style
that was you and then it was like no
but kingdom of heaven
was written the movie screenplay
was written by the guy that wrote the
English version of The Departed
he's a good
writer
so get me wrong
but the problem was that Ridley Scott
basically came out and went no I'm happy with this
there was no extra footage
there was nothing
at the end of the day he's a director
and he'll look at a script and go yeah sure
like I can do this
he has a director's mind doesn't really think about this
it actually makes sense all that much
I can film this no problem yeah
I've done this type of stuff before
but I think it mostly comes down to a writer
and Darren Lindoff or whatever
has been linked to a lot of terribly
failed writing jobs
you're lost right
franchise your cinematic universe has
more shit in it currently than quality
lot more and that's
fucking like you gotta salvage that
Neil Blumkamp is a good
step but really
Prometheus too does that have to happen
you know like it did make money
like it didn't you know didn't fail
watch it comes out and it becomes your favorite
movie so children of
yeah here's
here's my fear
I fear that they will make this
movie in response to Prometheus's
problems in order to fix it
the opposite problems
and then it's like look it's the alien
oh there's a predator
and it's like just over do it
to but the cool part of the mystery
of Prometheus going into it was that we didn't
even know if it was connected or not
and then it was like it might be
at first it wasn't going it was going to be
heavily then they're like no let's pull it back
and then and then it was in a way
that makes no sense at all
ruins that's why
I'm glad that predator is not actually
being included in this and then predator
three or four whatever they're they're going to call
it is its own separate entity written by
completely different guy but if they breathe
the word utani
anywhere then you
know what's happening anyway
anyway
there was
this week we had
pretty yeah there's that
interview with Spike Chunsoft
dude and he had a lot of things to say
for
the new Danganronpa
because it's not a mobile
a portable game anymore he wants to add
new mechanics and I'm like what does that mean
I mean ultimately it's still going to be
the same game on both
who knows yeah
you mentioned that
the other thing is that he mentioned that
as a company they're focusing on
NXPS4 and Steam well in the future he said
yeah which is interesting
um like
not make sense put Danganronpa
Steam because like what else are you
going to go for like in
in like three years time
like what platforms are you going to make stuff for
we use not going to exist Vita is going to be kind of
if not done on its last
legs in Japan
and so like you know got nowhere else to go
PC man PC
PS4 hopefully NX will be
the only thing in Japan and it also sounds
yes is also gonna yeah Nintendo
is gonna like forcibly
sunset that as they transition into
whatever their NX platform is
and it also it sounds like VR
was more than just a test you know
like it's something that yeah he says like they don't have
anything concrete right now but they're actually
like looking into it seriously so I liked
his his bit about the Witcher because
like Chunsoft they localized a lot of games into
Japanese like Dark Siders in the Witcher
and I like the bit where he was talking
about how they really wanted they were kind
of asking CD Projekt to do a PS3
version of Witcher 2
and they said Witcher 2 was a huge
failure for us in Japan because it was only on 360
and they were like
but we loved it so much we stuck with it
and Witcher 3 worked out really well. The tech though
right like that those
they really like
like squeezed blood out of a stone
on that port. Yeah for sure. And like to do that on
both would have been like. No I'm not
saying they should. I know but it's this cool little
nice thing. I like Spikes
stick toitiveness we're now like the Witcher 3
was a big hit in Japan. Yeah they're like we like it enough
that we're gonna exactly write it out. Yeah we'll stomach
this exactly so
I like those guys a lot they're really cool.
They're a good company.
This got me excited
like obviously you got
your way more to Yakuza.
Oh yeah I know this got me excited too. The freaking little
teaser it's like is that beat Takeshi?
Oh shit. It is.
See here's the thing Willie you are more excited
than me. Oh no.
Really?
Don't feel it. Alright. Don't feel it
until
until it's here? Until it's here. Until it's here.
Not even until it's announced
like the Yakuza 5
excitement that I felt that was a mistake
that was stupid
it'll probably work out fine
probably but they could always cancel it
out of spite.
For you. Yes.
Don't be excited.
But beat Takeshi's in it though. Beat Takeshi's in it.
It's like an amazing actor and stuff.
And he famously said he hated video games.
So this is significant.
I want to see him dub himself in English.
The boss
Willie the boss is in Project
Cross Zone 2. Yeah right.
Sure.
Don't get excited. Don't buy Project
Cross Zone 2 it's a trap.
Project Cross Zone 2. It fooled me twice.
That's the subtitle.
You can't fool me again.
I'm going to go to EB Games and sharpie that onto the cover.
There is a
this is more for you Matt.
There's a $300 Sahelanthropus figure
on its way.
And it does transform.
Sorry.
Matt didn't get that far.
Sorry.
The Metal Gear from Metal Gear 5.
Well you know I've seen that before.
It's called Sahelanthropus.
I didn't know its name.
It's sick. It's really cool.
And it transforms.
And so they're making the full $300.
It's a JOT with a Rex head.
Yeah exactly. It's so dumb I love it.
It's weapon loadout. It's fucking closer to an orbital frame.
Yeah definitely.
And it can jump. I mean what the fuck.
It's got the little orbs.
Legs. Legs that are allowed to go anywhere.
Like these.
Nice shoes.
We've got
a bit of news
with
Genet Ibun Roku FE.
Sharp FE yeah.
The Fire Emblem
Cross Shin Megami Tensei project.
And they just released
a couple of...
Exactly.
It seems like stands are in it.
The Fire Emblem characters are stands.
They're personas.
You call in your personas.
But is that
the entirety of the Fire Emblem content?
Probably.
Well no there's the weapon triangle and stuff.
I spoke about that.
Swords beats axes beats lines.
Swords.
That's crazy.
There's the weapon triangle and you can see the class influence.
And honestly that system is very similar to the persona
and SMT systems.
Cause that's in there too.
So you gotta watch both of those.
So will the mirages be
the Kodoko demons?
You call in the cast.
It seems like they're
like yes but not like regular enemies.
You know it seems like they're a bit more special than that.
Okay.
As if each demon in a persona game were not a persona.
You know what I mean?
Like there's only special ones.
Like Izanaki and this and that.
You can't just use Kukulan as
your persona is what I'm saying.
You get what I mean? Yeah okay okay.
Like Virion and Tharja it seems like they're not going to be regular enemies.
They're going to be special.
Fuse Roy with
the dick one.
Lara.
Yeah.
Never forget about her.
Roy sucks.
Roy's so overrated.
It's crazy. He's got a fire sword.
Cause he was in melee.
And cause nobody knows and he's got a fire.
It's not why he's overrated.
He's overrated for the same reasons
that people like Ken.
It's exactly the same.
Ken's cooler.
But he's the American looking or one
and he has fire on his stuff.
The problem with that
It's Wheeler.
It's like what was the localized Fire Emblem game?
It was the one with his dad.
And his dad's way cooler.
That's the problem.
He was way better than Roy.
So Roy's super overrated.
If Eliwood was in Spash
then that'd be the case.
But like
Eliwood didn't exist really yet.
So there's
nothing to really say but like the slow drip of
my season 3 news begins this week.
So I bet you as soon as this podcast goes up
you're going to know whatever that means.
There's a new Gargoss and Idol
or a dual
blaze blue style Carl Clover
boss here.
And it's going to be awful.
But if you're bringing back Kim Woo
Gargoss and Idol everyone else
The only way to play
as Gargoss and Idol together
is to use two arcade sticks
and Keith Cackles in the background.
It's totally balanced.
And I want them to still be claynation.
Yeah.
That'd be great.
That's how you do it.
That's also terrible.
You have to use a DDR pad for his feet
and the stick for his hands.
It was a slow news week so there's very little
going on.
But there was the Assassin's Creed Syndicate
story trailer where you basically
tuned in and went oh okay gang's in New York.
Gang's in New York that's where we're looking at.
But in New York
before the New York in Europe obviously.
There was some rumblings out of videogamer.com
that implied that Syndicate
is going to be just as fucked up as you know what I mean.
Which is a bummer. Based on
seeing the game. Based on Assassin's Creed.
Based on Assassin's Creed.
Okay.
It was based on seeing mother brain
in one of the cutscenes. It was the way that it talked.
It was implied that one of the guys knew a guy
who told him to go I'm going to do it
well fucked up. Oh boy.
Who knew a guy? Who knew a guy?
We live in Montreal it's embarrassing.
But it's the second iteration of the thing you've already done
so it's supposed to be the better good one.
Yeah like I enjoyed Unity but like two years in a row
of that.
That's no good.
Syndicate's made by Ubisoft combat.
And it had three years.
It was in development for three years I believe
so it's like oof that's not.
Well this is their other Call of Duty switch off team thing.
That's great and I believe this is their first
offer.
It's the only way to get that stuff going
every year. At that pace.
Like Call of Duty is switched to the three year
team.
And it seems like the quality improvement's going to be huge
just looking at Black Ops 3's zombie campaign.
Holy shit. Did you see that?
I did not. What's the difference?
Zombie campaign in Black Ops 3 is just like
the other ones like you know there's the alien campaign
and stuff. So this one takes place in 1940s
right?
And you get to play as these four archetype characters.
I can't wait to play as the boxer.
It's so fucking cool.
You got the boxer, you got the damsel.
Are they celebrities like in the past?
I believe so.
And boy the production values look awesome.
But they're not actually celebrities.
Yeah I think that's what it is.
Let me pull that shit up.
Not many 1940s celebrities that you can have
to come back and record some of these.
Oh no. You just get the cast of Bad Bad.
Stay Hitler and call it a day right?
Yeah.
But that doesn't sound too different from
wasn't there a zombie campaign
for World at War?
All the Treyarch ones have zombie candidates.
Yeah. So yes.
But they've been building them up and now they have stories
and shit.
So I think the biggest
knock I can put against the Black Ops
zombie modes is that it's not
as good as Killing Floor.
That's what those modes are.
They are straight up the game Killing Floor
but Killing Floor is only that game
and so it's much better.
It's Jeff Goldblum,
Heather Graham, Neil McDonough,
Ron Perlman and Robert Picardo.
Yeah there you go.
So Robert Picardo.
It's called Shadows of Evil.
Like they have a...
The magician, the femme fatale, the cop
and the boxer.
And they have to fight the mastermind,
the mysterious shadow man.
Because who was it before?
Wasn't it Danny Trejo, Buffy?
Romero was the zombie.
And I want to say, what's his name
from it in black?
Will Smith.
Jadon Pankin Smith.
Tommy Lee Jones?
I don't think so.
In a college game?
He's a federal marshal.
And you remember that part
in fucking Fugitive where he's like,
I didn't kill my wife.
He's like, I don't care.
It's the best.
And he jumps off the fucking dam
with a shitty looking dummy.
Like it's not good enough to ship two games.
We have to ship two games with completely different art.
You know what I mean?
If you're splitting your team across,
you should be working on totally different environments.
No, I mean that they have
the Black Ops 3 single player co-op
Deus Ex campaign.
And then they have the...
How's the dead overkill shit?
I thought you were going back to Assassin's Creed.
No, no, sorry.
It's fucking crazy.
Do you see how the PS3
and 360 versions of
Call of Duty Black Ops 3
are going to ship without the campaign?
Because they don't think they can handle it.
The four player co-op Deus Ex campaign.
I would love
to see the sales data on that.
It's going to be huge.
People have been saying it for years
and years and years for Call of Duty and Battlefield.
Just sell the fucking multiplayer.
Just the multiplayer.
So it's going to be the multiplayer
and the zombie campaigns also included.
It's going to be huge.
I would gladly take 10 bucks off my Battlefield purchase
to not have that so far.
The trade-off is it's $10 cheaper
and it comes with Black Ops.
And I think just the first Black Ops
is an Xbox 360 downloadable.
I don't think the product that gives
people less options is the most optimal one.
No, definitely not.
But it's interesting how that's the solution.
I don't think they should have always had it that way.
I can see it.
I can see it
where they have it outsourced to another company
to do the port
like they usually do for the last-gen ones.
And I can see the difficulty of testing
two four-player multiplayer games
at the same time on two different platforms.
Like,
that's a hard thing to ship.
If any projects
call of duty for sure.
No, I agree.
But you look at the environments and stuff
and you're like, wow, they're actually really big.
Like, they're not just detail.
The director had an article about this
and then it said, we'll not ship with single-player.
And there were like 500 comments
and they were like, well, another game I won't bother buying.
I was like, I love the multiplayer
of these games,
but for a company to go, you don't know.
Yeah, it will just say no to me.
I saw that article.
Because it started a discussion about
how do you feel about games with single-player content?
I would argue that it does have two thirds,
not half.
But it's always...
That happened over the last gen,
the 360 PS3 generation,
where with Battlefield and Call of Duty,
it became more and more obvious
that those games have two audiences.
Not three.
There's no third audience that loves
both the single-player and the multiplayer.
That's like 10 guys.
There's the guys who rent it and play through the single-player.
And then there's the guys who
fucking play the multiplayer all the time.
It always sucks when there's no single-player, I say.
With none. The only thing, to me,
you need to be at the level that Titanfall
is at now.
The level Titanfall shipped with was not okay.
The level that they got to after
adding all the good shit, that's what you need to ship.
I think they're gonna be,
because the Zombies campaign seems like
it's a full fucking, full-fledged thing
of its own accord, but like, yeah.
Also, right now, the Ubisoft announced that
Rainbow Six Siege is also not gonna have a single-player campaign.
Yeah, and on any version, yeah.
Which is quite something.
What's the point of, what's her name?
The Mead Flag.
No, no, the actress.
Hillary Clinton.
Maya Angelou. I don't know whatever.
Angela Bassett.
She's in there for the opening cutscene,
and that's what I guess.
But yeah, no campaign confirmed for that.
It's interesting, but I guess
that's what the game would have been.
Honestly, that's refreshing to me.
With Battlefield 4 in particular,
it was like, you guys just made this whole fucking campaign
so you could have trailers.
Like, when you played it, you came away from it.
Dude, the campaign sucked in that one.
It was so obvious. It's like, the entire reason you built
this entire campaign is so that you would have trailers.
It all went to the multiplayer.
The old Rainbow Six games were just menu
into mission, and there was
no story. Yeah, no, this is like,
clearly just a multiplayer take on it.
It still looks really good, but I,
for, with no campaign, I don't think
I'm gonna get into it. I want those matches
to be incredibly short and infuriating.
I got a beta code, actually, so I'm gonna try it,
but we'll see.
A piece of cool news.
The, there's a new
Assault Suit Lanos game.
Yeah, it was announced a while ago.
Yeah, so we have a trailer for it now,
and you can see a pretty in-depth thing
of how the game is looking. And I looked at it,
and I was like, this is weird, because
it looks like, you know,
Vulcan and Cybernator,
which is all that stuff that looks like
Metal Warriors type mecha.
Yeah, and I was seeing it, but I'm like,
but this looks
a lot like that game we took a look
at the other day, Gun Hound.
It's like, it turns out, they gave
the franchise to those guys. Which is why
it looks just like it. And it looks like that.
And it's like, okay, I can see that.
It seems like the right guys nowadays. They're the ones that are making it.
They got the spiritual successor going,
so I want to check that out.
Speaking of that game, did you see the trailer
for Earth Wars
on PS4 and Xbox One?
It's a 2D action game.
Don't you fucking get a sequel?
It's a 2D action game that has really nice
art, but it has like
shitty vanilla-ware animation style.
Looks really, really, really
stiff, but it looks really, really pretty.
What's it called again? Earth Wars. I think it has a slightly
longer, like, title,
subtitle. But yeah, Earth Wars.
You should look at that.
It's not the vanilla-ware
rip-off thing that we were looking at the other day.
No, this is similar, but it's a
different game. Yeah, it's a different thing
entirely.
Yeah, it is.
It's a robot. Dude, the 3D models
look ridiculous.
I can't even describe
the texture work on the 3D in that game.
Does anyone know what kind of game that scene is?
Nobody really knows.
We're hearing that it will be
with no single player.
It will be a side-scroller until
you reach an enemy and then something will happen.
No.
It will be a side-scroller and you will do all
the content 13 times.
No, no, no, no, no.
It has to be so...
It's gotta be front-listin' three.
That's what's gotta be. It's actually hard
to say, because they're making those nice 3D models.
But you're right, though, because the prettier
the game looks, the more you're gonna look
at that shit. The more times you're gonna play it.
They're not gonna have enough money to fucking spread it out.
Yeah, exactly.
I'm glad with their original vision.
This will ship with no single player campaign.
You know, Dragon's Crown
was such a runaway hit for them.
It did amazingly well.
As it should.
And by far their best performing game.
So I'm sure Atlas is giving them
a heftier budget to work with.
They were working with a small budget,
but it was kind of because the team
was so small. They're only like 12 people.
But I'm sure that they're getting
supported way harder, which is why this game
looks as good as it does.
Plus, they're doing Odensphere on the side.
Which is like, what are you gonna be able to do
butt drops, though?
Because here's the thing. If they take a look
at it and they go, alright, we have
three and a half hours of content.
I would rather you ship that.
That's what I'm saying.
For once in your lives, just go,
you know what? Fuck it. Ship that.
Ship it. Put a $70 price tag on it.
Don't fucking grab the MSG
spoon and just start mixing it in.
Yeah, exactly.
Because that sours the taste in our mouths.
And we have it raw.
You don't want to walk away with that
cooling over. Damn it, fuck you.
Vanillaware magic tainted by, I never got
to the real ending.
The problem with Vanillaware magic is
the spell takes 40 hours to cast.
Like...
I completed it.
Have you played Muramasa to completion?
No, I didn't beat it.
I didn't beat it. Did you like it?
You should legit go buy a Vita copy of...
And play the extra chapter.
Because they're short. They are short.
And good, right?
They're better than the main game.
It's an entire other Vanillaware game
that nobody talks about.
And it's so good.
And you can just pick and choose
whichever one looks good for you.
I tried really hard to beat Muramasa.
Yeah. I think we all did.
No, I beat it. Are you finished it?
I said it and no one...
I'm sorry, I didn't hear you at all.
Both campaigns?
Our shmup god, Pat, was like
you need to do this.
You need to do this.
He helped me...
mainline to what I wanted.
You should go play the DLC campaigns
because they're really good.
Part of my fire was quelled
because I had the raw version first.
And I was playing it in Japanese
just dicking around.
You do have a copy of that.
For a long time.
I guess I'll retread this in English.
Plus that game got
translated too well.
It translated so literally
that the story makes no sense.
I would rather them made up a story.
Because you don't know these Japanese demon histories.
Yeah, because exactly.
But did you see the Vita version?
They re-translated it and they fixed it.
You didn't know about the butthole eyeball demon?
What?
Everyone knows that.
I hear you, but they did fix the book.
I saw comparisons screenshots.
It was your butthole eyeball.
No, you're right. I'd forgotten that the Wii version
had that quote-unquote issue.
Yeah.
I love the fact that
everyone in a desperate
reach to grab any part
of F-Zero's guts
and eat it and consume it for themselves.
Yeah.
Fast Racing Neo now has the announcer guy
from F-Zero GX.
That's the guy.
That's the guy.
I've forgotten memories.
No, I think that's F-Zero X.
F-Zero X, but yeah.
I forget what F-Zero GX sounds like, actually.
It's deeper, way deeper.
I couldn't do it.
It sounds like...
It's a role they've forgotten memories announcing
if I see him as a voice actor.
Definitely, exactly.
It's like Junco, man.
It's like grab whatever you can
and take it for yourself, you know?
I don't know if you can afford that game,
but they're saying like December
and I'm like, oh, you mean February?
December is not a month.
You mean December 2017, Shonen?
Yeah.
At least they're not Nicalis.
Did you see we finally got so Legend of the Raven?
Finally coming around in like...
Attack on Cataclysm?
In like November on Vita and PS4 in Japan.
Not Attack on Cataclysm.
Way to go, Nicalis.
Again, yeah.
What?
They're releasing second impact.
They're releasing vanilla.
After the release of Third Strike.
Yeah, yeah.
Because they didn't...
That was the one that the Indiegogo campaign was for.
Because they only licensed the original game.
The original game.
And the creators continued.
And now it's coming out in Japan this year.
I so think this is the most
confusing thing in the fuck of it.
It's very confusing.
No, no, don't tell me.
Please forget. You explained it when we did the video.
But I still don't understand.
Nicalis was like, we want this.
And it's like, okay. But we're going to keep working on it.
Fine.
And Nicalis took way too long.
And the original dev team was like, well now we have the updated amazing version.
And Nicalis was like, well here's vanilla.
And it's a bummer.
I want that on my Vita.
But I don't want that.
I still think the most
embarrassing is like...
I think it was four or five months ago
where ArcSys just released like
Calamity Trigger on Steam.
Well,
recently when they were teasing a fighter
and everyone was like, it's X-Arts, it's X-Arts.
And then it was fucking Battle Fantasia Plus.
Yes.
And it's like, who?
Who was asking for Battle Fantasia?
Open the door and toss a scrap
out to the peasants.
Battle Fantasia is like this weird...
It's a good game.
But nobody cares.
It is...
You know, Battle Fantasia to me
represents William and I's desperation
for Street Fighter IV stuff.
Yeah.
Because he had found
shitty quality videos
of some dude in Japan
playing the two shittiest looking characters
in the game for 100 matches.
And it was recorded on a phone.
Like VHS.
And we were just like, that's the kind of animation
Street Fighter will probably use.
It was the same board.
And it was like anything.
Desk thing to latch on to.
And on the NX thread on NeoGaff,
it's approaching 100 pages.
There is nothing going on in there.
What if my phone
broke a goat?
Fucking wristwatch.
I just remember us looking at those videos
going, is that 2D?
No, that's true.
What is this?
And I was just like, what?
And you were just staring at it.
And you were replying to me.
And then sitting there with the door girls
just being like, okay, no wait, hold on though.
Hold on, that lighting is too good.
That can't be a sprite.
Because you're watching it at the lowest possible resolution.
Then again, you're watching it at 180p.
But nothing
compares though
to the first time the KOF 12 trailer
popped up.
And it was like, those are not sprites.
I don't care what anyone says, they're sprites.
Fuck.
That was a special one.
And now we have shitty looking
PS2 models.
Like in all fairness, they are way better
than the PS2 could do.
But they're way worse than the PS2.
I remember being wowed by tech and tag tournament.
Oh yeah.
And I feel like this is where we are.
There's no pain like King of Fighters 14 pain.
Can we just call it King of Fighters China?
Because that's what it is to me right now.
KOF China.
China Joy.
And lastly, I just want to call attention to
this video that Clickhole put out
called Progress.
This video game's protagonist is a deaf woman.
And it's just a review of Sonic the Hedgehog 2.
And it's just like
you can't argue
anything
to say that it's not.
Go watch it and it's like
Sonic the Hedgehog 2 is a deaf woman.
And you can't say otherwise.
Prove it.
It's great.
It's really progressive.
Clickhole is a really fantastic website.
Dude, I lost my shit.
It's so good.
I'm so glad that it's portraying deaf women
that they can jump.
And do things faster than they can.
Everything a regular non deaf woman can do.
It's way faster than their
counterparts.
The downside is that
your partner just kind of does nothing.
Have you ever thought that we can just make fun
of deaf people as much as we want on this podcast?
Especially the Deaf Amish.
Until somebody starts doing the conversion.
No, but they're all in on the joke too, right guys?
Yeah.
Alright, I'm going to wheel my chair
slightly away from Liam.
If you've got complaints, please send them too.
As you kickstart fucking Hitler
coming back.
The master D plan.
Hey, you know what?
I love that.
Last week was
the first week since
Ariane Resurrection.
That we had mass
comments and Twitter messages
like, guys, I listen to this
podcast at work.
Oh god.
Mission accomplished. Like, yes.
That was the point.
Send your complaints to superbestfriendcast.com.
That's superbestfriendcast.com.
If you want to complain.
Don't actually send your complaints there though.
I mean, you have.
We're just going to laugh at them.
Send them to Takahata at whatever
his email is.
I bet you he'd still answer them.
He'd pretend.
He'd sign with your name.
You know what, that podcast was terrible.
He'd reply in Steiner Voice.
You'd get a letter
sending a little something like this coming in from Mark.
Mark, what do you have to complain about?
Hey best friends,
Mark here, just wanted to know what your thoughts were on
collectable items as a replay value.
To me, personally, in games like Ascrete and Ground Zeroes,
when I finish the main meat, I find collecting items dull
and not fun.
At that point, I stopped the game and it usually
ruins some games for me when it's mandatory
or like things like collecting
coctags and figures of war.
Do you feel that collectable items
are a good incentive for side content?
I think Mark's completely
right. And that the vast majority
of those kinds of collectables are terrible.
I think context is everything
because I think like the King's Flags
and Assassin's Creed were the worst.
They're the worst ever.
And feathers and this, that and the other
all those Assassin's Creed.
The feathers is the worst because they told you something would happen.
Your incentive was to have your mother talk again.
And nobody give a fuck.
Like that shit sucks.
In Ground Zeroes, I was so okay with it
because Campbell make us this big
and you turn on your night vision goggles
and you see them.
It's better to have like lots of stuff
in a small confined area.
To make it dense. Yeah.
Also the reward was worth it.
Oh my god, was it ever worth it?
You needed it.
There's two parts to this.
Playing Ground Zeroes without playing Deja Vu
and Jame Vu. What are you doing?
You didn't even play the game.
And the other thing is when the incentive is strong enough
it doesn't feel like a chore.
The other thing to me, that's like equally...
But nobody wants to get off good content like that.
The last fucking collectible side content
ever in my opinion
was Thousand Years of Memories
in Lost Odyssey.
Because there are short stories that are better
than the main game. Yeah, yeah, totally.
So there's two parts to this.
One, your incentive to do all of them
has to be significant.
It has to be worthwhile.
It has to be for real.
The second thing is that even if you don't
get to that all of them goal
they should each be worthwhile
for their own merits.
And I would argue...
A flag or a feather or whatever, bullshit.
A story
that all you find is that one collectible
and it's a story
that still had value for you.
I agree that said
the abuse of Intel dossiers
has a critical mass.
I will never read another Intel dossier ever in my life.
Here's how many collectibles your entire game should have.
20.
And they should all be a cool little thing.
I think if you've got like
10 good ones,
go ahead and tie a trophy to that.
But if you've got 200 and they're nothing
and the only reward is a trophy or an achievement
I'm sure I've told this story before
but Arkham City
is the game that completely
broke achievements for me forever
because of the fucking Riddler trophies.
See, I got every Riddler trophy
in Arkham Asylum
because a lot like Camp Omega
it's not that bad.
And a lot of them have little
cool things about them.
Arkham City is also where I went
fuck this, fuck Riddler trophies for life.
And I tried to get them in Arkham City
and I just got to some that I just couldn't get
and the ones that couldn't get kept piling up
and piling up and I was like, okay, no I'm done.
Apparently Arkham Knight has like a million.
It does have less fun.
I have the utmost respect for the hidden stars
and braid but never want to see that
ever in another game.
As a mandatory thing, ever.
It was one and done.
It was one and done and it worked in
braid and I don't think it'll work anywhere else.
The stars in braid are fucking crazy, I love them.
Mad respect for that.
Do you have a wired controller?
Yeah, exactly.
Fuck you.
One example that I really like and I mentioned
in the video is that in No More Heroes
if you just, you get those like four
treasure chests per
boss dungeon, those are not hidden.
They're on the path.
Sometimes you just need to turn the camera
from your starting position and it'll be right there.
That's about as good as they get, right?
And if you get every single in No More Heroes
one, if you got all of them
during that run, then
the set that repopulates
all the levels in
your new game plus are the bits of
concept art that when you look at them
tell you stuff about bosses that you didn't know
otherwise.
So you'll know the ages of Shinobu
like where this guy is from
and that's like, concept art is usually
very wishy-washy to me, like sometimes I hate it.
Like that's all you gave me
and most of the time concept art is bad
but that concept art is good because it shows
how do beam katanas
fucking work?
Definitely, like that just reminded me
missable collectibles are the worst
when you have to do a perfect run through a game
and get them all in one go.
Oh no, hey guys, just
okay so here's the
part of the FAQ for the water level
alright, before you start
you have to get this collectible from the bottom
or from the water level
because you'll never be able to come back to this
until dawn.
It's like, yo, walk
away from where the camera's telling you to go
find a totem.
And until dawn, they
skirt around that because you can just go back
to chapter select and it's safe. Until dawn doesn't
very well. I'm talking about a game where
you can no way to go back
because I try.
Well no, but are you saying you want to walk
backward? Like, it's different.
I'm saying until dawn has
some of the best collectibles ever.
I'm saying in games where you get to the end
credits roll and you cannot do
anything with your save files. Yeah, that's the worst.
Like that's what I'm saying. Chapter select fixes it
and like hard cold rule
like total hard rule, don't
fucking put a chapter based game with collectibles
if you're not going to have a goddamn
collectible tracker next to the chapter select.
If I can't see
that I've got every collectible in this level
fuck off. If I can't
see that I'm missing the one from this level
it was a plane that did that really well
that told me exactly what I was missing
shit. I think Tomb Raider did that.
The new Tomb Raider, it has like
trackers all over the goddamn place, I think.
You want to talk like horrible
like the Uncharted series tells
you everything. You want to talk about like this many in this chapter.
Like free roam mode. Yeah.
So the worst ever, the worst collectible
quest that I can think of as of right
now is in version 1.0
of Skyrim.
There is the Stone of Benzariah quest
or whatever which is finding these 29
amethyst diamonds.
One of them is inside a main story
mission that takes place where you infiltrate
a mansion. It's the only time you can
ever get into that mansion and it's sitting on a fucking
bookcase somewhere.
There's no tracker for these fucking
things. It tells you how many you have but there's
no waypoint, there's no like follow
things to it. If you miss it
not only will you miss it
until you look it up, you will
never know that that's where
you missed it. And I don't know if any of
you played Skyrim, that game is physically
large in terms of area.
It's quite big. Fuck. They
eventually patched it so that that stone
would appear elsewhere in the game if you
missed it or some bullshit. But fuck.
Fuck. Don't do that. They've never been in there in the
first place. Design oversight.
Oh totally. Find all the dildos.
We found them. No you didn't.
What are the dildos?
We got one coming in.
Mike wants to know what's your
favorite
intro to a video version
of yourself?
What's your favorite version of yourself that an
artist renditioned for a game?
I like the No More Heroes 2 one a
lot. One of you
and me and him. Yeah.
Just you know there are different
versions of us in the video intros.
What's your favorite
character?
We have an upcoming one that
has a fucking great intro
and I love all the characters.
I don't know which one you mean.
This is a new one.
Oh you mean the really
animated one?
The one that's going up on...
Oh you're just talking about it.
We didn't announce that yet.
The cat's out of the bag.
That's my favorite one.
I love plagues
a little cameo on that.
I think it looks great.
Yeah the No More Heroes 2 is strong
and for me... Oh Matt's No More Heroes 2
like... No, no, no.
The Thunder Ball 3 if we're leaving is...
Matt's No More Heroes 1 like...
That's the best.
We're going to guard and seal back.
I like it to be cool that often I don't feel.
I am a big fan of Guardian Woolly.
That's really cool too. Guardian Woolly.
Well Plague did a good version of you as Volgar the Barbarian.
Remember we did that quickly with Volgar?
Yeah the Viking. Sorry Volgar the Viking.
You see that's coming on the Jean Cast?
Yeah.
I believe it's out right now.
I feel if we look over like
my head on all these things
it's my head put on someone's body
and I look worried or something
like 99%.
I think you look best in the Pat Stairs
at Mercenary Kings one.
Where you just chopped up the one
from Deception that I put together.
Thank you.
Because I do a lot
of this stuff with Artisan Net
but my head is like...
There's so many but...
Just pick a good one.
The No More Heroes one.
I feel like there's something that was really really good
that I don't know.
Freedom Planet was really good.
That was fun stuff.
Okay we got one coming in.
Oh god no.
I accidentally just clicked on the fucking
MGS5 spoiler topic.
I don't look at it.
I was doing the thing where you go to scroll with your hand
but you were too slow and you accidentally...
Oh fuck it.
Yeah there it is.
It's my WrestleMania cactus Pat version.
Those are solid.
I love my Edge Lord
The Punishment.
Alex wants to know bad video game OSTs.
Liam take it away you've got this.
Bad video game OSTs?
There's only one answer to this.
There's a lot.
The beginning to end...
Sonic Dark Brotherhood
is the correct answer.
That one's a deep one.
You always talk about the Yoshi game.
Yeah the one song from Yoshi's New Island.
Oh is that one that's really bad?
But that's the thing is from a beginning
to end full soundtrack.
That Sonic game is on another level.
That Sonic game is on another level.
This is the worst thing in the world to be
an unquestioned expert on.
No.
All the tracks go.
And there's a hurriedness to your voice.
He's got it.
He knows.
I want to give a special shout out to the
basement theme and Resident Evil directors.
Resident Evil
basement theme is untouchable.
Oh god.
It's fitting that the man who wrote that music
got caught up as a giant fucking fraud.
Yeah I forgot about that.
Oh.
Yeah I remember that story right right right.
He outsourced death.
He outsourced it to a guy
and said yeah I wrote this and didn't
listen to it.
Yeah.
Video games is Broadway musicals.
Oh.
Well last of us is the closest you'll ever see right now.
Unless you go to Japan in which the
Phoenix Rant musical is super great.
I was going to say Phoenix Rants feels like the best thing
and they already did it.
Phoenix Rant.
That's the best thing you can do.
Ah hatred.
When's hatred?
Because you weren't there
but it was at some con
where everyone's like we're in a room
and everyone's like well what game should we play
and I was like oh when's hatred
and everyone's like kind of turned to me
like what the fuck is this
and we're just like yeah of course.
That because years from now that only gets richer.
Yeah.
Beyond Two Souls.
Indigo prophecy.
All day.
Fucking puppeteer.
That'd be amazing. I watched that.
I'm glad they watched that.
Has anyone gotten to see
any part of those fucking persona
stage shows? No.
Apparently just you look at the costumes
and you're just like
Starcraft.
There's a dragon bump coming.
Starcraft.
Nuclear Strike Detected.
Yeah.
Biocom.
Modern.
Why would you, why would you do this?
My arm.
My wife.
Which is it now?
It's so easy.
It's so easy.
I would love to see that.
It would be a rap rock opera.
And that's why I used my
Bionic
Bionic
as like he gets wires
stunted across the stage.
Yeah, like it would just use the Spider-Man.
Yeah, exactly.
Spitzer.
We're all dancing around and smelling
your solid one. That's the one.
Game over. That's the one.
I still want Spider-Man too.
Snake.
Snake.
Crawl in the ground
and it goes on and on.
All that dialogue.
Sight.
A rushing gunship.
What's a fashion gunship doing in Alaska?
Whose footprints are these?
Oh god.
You made a comment about
in one of the MGS5 parks
in which maybe we'll finally get to see
how Liquid was able to shoot down
those jets with a helicopter.
Some military guys
sent me some fucking
articles describing
how attack helicopters
absolutely kicked the shit.
They have a good go.
It's 5 to 1.
It can happen.
In close range.
So all you have to do is start your helicopter up
when you're inside their missile range.
So never engage
a helicopter at close range
even in a jet.
My moment of awakening on that
is when Black Hawk down
when a fucking Mogadishu dude
runs up with an RPG
and shoots it and it's like
barely a couple yards from where the helicopter is
and the helicopter
deeks it like a punch.
Like an Ibo Dodge.
It fucking demsy rolls the missile.
It's like how do you do that
with a thing?
That guy trying to grab the rope
didn't appreciate it.
It was insane.
There's two streams
of wind
and I'm catching them both.
I knew when that one would come.
Exactly.
I knew one would come.
I used my Sharon Gann
to see your RPG.
I can see it.
It was the piaku gun.
You're in the realm of my divinity.
What's coming up?
We already fucking spoiled it.
You spoiled it.
Shitstorm 4
9 pets.
Scary.
I was so happy to see that.
What a fucking good day.
On October 1st.
That's the day that it starts.
Guys see he approves of this name.
Guys see he approves.
I love that that happened.
Otherwise I guess all the LPs
will carry on as usual.
Mario Maker
should be this weekend?
Yes.
It shall.
It's pretty normal.
I'm looking forward to dancing all night.
Dancing all night.
Especially considering I haven't watched any of the trailers.
I don't want to know.
I've watched the final boss fight.
There's been so much footage
of costumes.
Yo that.
I want to appreciate it all.
That final boss fight though.
Is it what you think it should be?
What song do you think it is?
Well not the song but the boss itself.
Oh no it's a totally unique thing.
But is it the song?
It's the song that it should be.
Not the song that you think it should be.
The song that it should actually be.
Missed.
I'm excited.
I remember reading and talking to Holy about it.
What?
I'll hold out all face that way.
I mentioned it to you in an airport one time
because I heard at the Japanese release
that you have to play through the vast majority of the game
in order to get the hardest difficulty
unlocked and it's like
that should be unlocked.
That should be unlocked way earlier than that.
So I hope that's not actually as bad as it sounds.
But.
I haven't had the remixes spoiled for me either.
This is going to be so good.
There's a lot of songs.
I've already listened to maybe a hundred of those remixes.
Not from this but from the fucking concerts.
Every remix of these tracks are amazing.
The tracks, the bass.
The bassists of these tracks are so good.
I can't, DLC tracks are good too.
Looking forward to finishing Undertale
and seeing where that goes.
I'm going to keep hitting rocks.
I'm really looking forward to the return
of the king.
Tony Hawk 5.
Absolutely.
Totally.
It totally doesn't look like an embarrassing train wreck.
Hey, little Wayne's in there man.
I'm an old man.
Are you quoting Tony Hawk?
That's correct.
Or little Wayne because he's also a skateboarding model.
I still remember back in the day
when I was a child
and Tony Hawk was the shit
when it was a big fucking deal.
Dude, did you hear?
Tony Hawk's going to be on the Tom Green show.
And then he was.
Someone pulled up game rankings
and said the number one
highest range game
was THB, THPS2
and THPS3
was the highest run of the PS2.
It's accurate.
It's not going to fight it.
It's crazy.
If more locations were still
reviewing PS2 games
at the time of its release
Persona 4 would have probably taken that title.
But it came out like fucking 2008.
No, because the penetration
of the fucking Tony Hawk games
was everyone he went to school with.
Persona is not that.
Fuck off.
Also,
Mega Man Legends coming out this week on PSN.
Don't give them a chance
to say it sold poorly.
Just buy it.
Fuck Mega Man Legends.
You've bitched about it, you have to buy it.
Do I have to play it?
No.
Just don't give them a chance.
Anyone who has ever complained
about the game not being available.
Here is your opportunity.
Don't fail the test.
I'm also looking forward
to whatever is happening to me on Sunday.
I don't know what.
It's my bachelor party
and I don't know what to expect.
I know that I have to get up at 9
and wear a blindfold.
You have to wear a blindfold to your bachelor?
I also not allow pants for some reason.
I don't know. I'm joking obviously.
It'll probably be a good time.
I thought that was a reference
to another thing that I don't know about.
You don't know? We don't know.
Why would you think we know?
Call this number.
I'm not sure where to get the stuff
that I need.
That where is that?
Google Maps will help me.
It's not anywhere close.
I prefer MapQuest.
That's a good one too.
Map is the best.
That's true. Double trip.
Double trip.
That's what that's from.
It's my favorite.
No, no, no.
So hold on.
That's a good one too.
That's not how it's saying the song.
That's a good one too.
It's less aggressive.
Now here's the thing.
This is why it's my favorite.
I've been saying that's a good one too
for literally years.
I never said where I was from
but the only person who got it
was Pat about one month ago.
Yeah.
I noticed like
you literally for years
you would have an extra edge to it.
I've been adding extra.
Because now because Pat got it
for once I would just laugh
to myself.
And now that you know it's like yes
it's fucking the chronic
what-calls-of-narnia.
It's way more aggressive than how you've been doing it.
You can watch it right now.
He's been doing it.
That's a good one too.
Google Maps is the best to that.
Double true.
It's the best.
Timely.
Chris Parnell is doomed to play Pathetic Fox.
I just saw the latest Rick and Morty.
It's like it hurts.
That's what you need.
Did you see they're going to be making a VR game?
For what?
Chris Parnell?
The writers of Rick and Morty?
Is it a Rick and Morty game?
Is it a thing?
They're going to be doing a VR game
and fuck I forget who's developing it
but it's the guy you want.
That's going to be bad.
That's going to be bad man.
I was reading something the guy who plays Rick and Morty
in describing like here's how I act
for Lemon Grab because I hate it.
It gives me a horrible headache
and makes me want to throw up when I have to do
I remember he said that
they're working with William Q
who made the Stanley Parable.
That's the perfect team up.
It's an HTC Vive
thing.
That's a good one too.
That's really interesting.
Hover Junkers
is another thing.
Co-partners with William Q.
That's fucking awesome.
What team?
Expect the horrors
of my neighbor Sonic
or whatever.
That game didn't
affect you
but playing that
with a headset on would fuck me up.
I couldn't handle.
Oh I can't wait.
Goodbye real world.
Bye.
When are we going to get our sword art game?
What's that happening?
No, the real one.
Thanks for watching.