Castle Super Beast - SBFC 116: NBA 2K16: GHOSTS ARE INVOLVED
Episode Date: October 27, 2015Fun facts: 25% of us will spend next week getting hitched. 50% of us spent the whole week playing Street Fighter V. 75% of us agree on what the NX is going to be, and 100% of us aren't ready for spook...y basketball ghosts.
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I guess the fact that we worked at the studio that predicted the future political climate
of our country.
I guess that answers something.
Answer some questions, doesn't it?
So what you're saying is that we're going to be, soon we're going to be shooting American
immigrants that are illegally crossing the Canadian border?
Soon I'm actually going to have a bionic arm.
Soon, Saref is going to Detroit to fix it from its horrible, horrible Detroitness.
The Habs are going to go on to win multiple playoffs in a row and the Red Wings are going
to be in the dirt forever.
And of course the Olympic Stadium is a mecca giant that the entire world aspires to be.
Somehow that would be less expensive than it is right now.
You've got to ride that funicular down to the bullshit.
Dude, we're going there.
CBC was saying they have to sell a bunch of their buildings and Justin wants to give
money to the CBC.
So he's just going to give them the Olympic Stadium.
Wow, no one knows.
Literally no one knows what we're talking about.
He's the most Canadian.
If the CBC moves into the Olympic Stadium at the top of that funicular, it's time to
hold people accountable and start asking some dark questions like what do you guys do when
you get there?
Do you have a time machine?
The moment that happens.
I mean, it's not the end of the world, but you can see it from there.
Thank you.
So let's connect the dots here.
We worked for us for the next Iros Montreal, D.S.X.
And Justin Trudeau is prime minister.
Which made some suspicious claims about the future.
The weirdest thing about that is like the guy wasn't even like running back then.
That was out of like fucking nowhere.
It was a guess.
It was a guess that like he'd want the throne someday.
It was the guess that Joffrey would come back to take his claim.
A lot of Americans don't know this, but our prime minister sits on a throne.
He does.
Yeah.
Like Leon.
He gets a little scepter.
That's why we're still part of the Commonwealth.
Yeah, this is a fact.
And even more insight to what we're talking about.
You read all the emails on certain computer screens in the Montreal level of the revolution.
You'll see a lot of like the minutiae of what by D.S.
Montreal is thinking at the time or unwanted the world to be crafty.
The writers for all the PC logs like really put a lot of work into that.
It's crazy how much detail there is just on random PCs that you never have to touch.
Still really bummed out.
We never got to go to the plateau.
Like that.
That was supposed to be like early.
I remember reading like they're supposed to be four levels.
Montreal was supposed to be a place and upper.
Upper Hangshot.
Upper Hangshot.
Yeah.
And like, oh man, go down to the plateau and like punch robots that are riding their fixed
gear bicycles.
Yeah.
So, welcome to episode 116 of the Super Best Friendcast.
116.
What's our...
I feel like there's an old lady that that's...
What's our super interesting 116 fact?
That's a generic fact.
We didn't do last week either.
We skipped a lot of them.
115.
Ever since 110.
I've been doing it every week.
I thought we didn't do it last week.
Last week was the only one.
Oh, okay.
Because one count is a lot of them, Liam.
I remember all or being this, but maybe that's just me thinking.
Ever since you've made it your mission to ask me in like two, three, stop that thing.
Because you wanted to make it a thing, because now that I have answers for you, you stopped
that thing.
Yeah, exactly.
Why?
Did you know that?
I never wanted answers in the first attempt.
You created a monster.
I just came to your concert to complain.
This is your give-it.
Did you know that 115 is divisible by five?
There we go.
That's last week's.
What do you actually have?
115 is the number of the chemical that causes the zombie outbreak in Call of Duty.
That's cool.
Wow.
What?
Which Call of Duty?
In the Call of Duty zombie shit.
Element 115 is the number.
Oh.
And as far as 116 goes, 116 is the record for the number of wins in a single season
of MLB baseball by the Chicago Cubs.
That's a lot.
What?
116 wins by who?
The Cubs.
The Cubs.
The record for the number of wins by the Cubs in 1906.
Okay, I was like, that can't be.
That's when they played five games today.
And the Seattle Mariners in 2001.
Wow.
They play a lot of games of baseball in a season.
What the hell?
The power is crazy.
Because the Canadians are about to get like their ninth or tenth game won in a row.
That's going to be a world record.
Six before a loss was the original record, yeah.
And now they're like nine, and that's going to be a new record.
No, baseball is a hundred.
A baseball pitcher will like play a game and then throw out his arm or whatever and then
rest for 40 games before coming back.
Yeah, yeah.
That's true.
It sounds like years.
The reason why there's so many baseball games is because it's so easy to play baseball.
There's, well, they play a lot of games and so you can play as much as you want to watch.
I'll put it, you're not, you're not, how about this?
You're not as tired at the end of a baseball game than you are at the end of any other
season.
No, because you spent the end, you spent the end.
We're just drawing lines.
Yeah.
Some mega stars in baseball had people run for them.
Some mega stars in baseball have people bat for them.
That's true.
Mm-hmm.
Pinch hitting is the ultimate cowardice.
There's nothing worse.
I thought it was soccer.
No, no, no, no, no, this is, this is one concentrated thing where soccer is just a cowardice.
Okay, I'll go all over.
Like, I'm bad at baseball.
Someone played the baseball for me.
Give me my money.
I'll do the other bit.
That shit is outrageous.
Damn.
So you just want pictures shitting up the plate?
Yeah.
That's actually exactly what I want.
And as a bit of a side fact, it's also the number of pages Joseph Smith commanded with
that were the lost pages from the Book of Mormon, the Golden Plates and all that shit
with the, what is it, the Angel Morona?
It was 116.
The All-American Angel?
Yeah, the All-American Angel.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That was 166.
That was something.
There was 116 lost pages.
Pat, did you ever see that Book of Mormon?
I was about to say, did I ever see the Angel?
Like, no, no, I have not seen the Book of Mormon.
You should make the effort if you can.
If there's some digitized version out there, some digi-book script, I don't know, look
over it.
That would be crazy.
Well, the thing is, like, I first saw it, like, years ago before I had a chance to actually,
like, go see it live.
Yeah.
Because it was like, someone just, like, cammed it and threw it up the slide.
Yeah, I remember you mentioning that.
And that's where I saw it, and it was fucking amazing.
It's fantastic.
You know, I was just like, okay, I need to, like, see this lot.
You saw it in New York, right?
Or no?
No, I saw it here.
No, he saw it here.
He came to town.
Yeah.
I saw it here too.
Yeah, exactly.
And I think you were the one that told me it was up originally.
So I'm surprised you didn't actually go watch it.
No, I saw it in the Metro.
I saw it in the Metro.
It was me.
Dude, I don't know.
Huh.
No, no, no.
Not the live show here.
Oh, the video.
The actual way back in the day because it was off of Lou.
So, whatever anyway.
Oh.
Curious.
So, yeah.
That's us.
Um, let's, let's go around, I guess.
Matt, how's your week, man?
Uh, geez.
Not busy.
Not busy at all.
Relaxing.
Just very relaxing.
Oh, fuck.
Anyway.
Italian movie night.
So, me and the three Italian commandos, Ralph, Clark, and Leona, Rocky, Tino, and David,
we all got together to, I don't know.
And we all got together to look at the giant screen and, yeah.
Um, but yeah, we had a, we had a movie night because if you recall back at the, the bachelor
party and as you've seen, the movie projector screen is still at my apartment.
Well, now it's gone.
Yeah.
But we're like, hey, the, the other guys were like, hey, let's, let's make one more usage
of that.
So Rocky came over and we, we all got over there.
So selection of movies now.
Tell me what you think.
When you say Italian movies, my brain and my videos.
Italian movies, but they, they were all Italian movie night and they just wanted, because
I want to hear Italian Spider-Man is what I want to hear.
I wish no, but, uh, this was, um, uh, hard target.
John Woo's first American movie with the Van Damme.
Oh, you've got murdered is the, the thing of, cause people constantly get killed and
Van Damme looks at him and he goes, huh.
I think he's been murdered and he's got a whole blown in the back of his head.
Yeah.
Lance Henriksen plays the evil villain who chews up the scenery.
I didn't know this.
I didn't know.
He's a really good villain.
No, he's, he's, he's a, it's, it's a, the most dangerous game sort of thing where
they, they hunt people and then they chose the wrong man to hunt chance laboe.
Get out.
Yeah.
So when other French people in the bayou, this takes place in, you know, Louisiana,
they go a chance and he's like, what?
How many, how many wu tropes did you, did you count?
How many wu tropes?
A dove in every scene, even that early on every shot, slow motion, all over riding on
top of a motor, like it's crazy cycles through the doves on fire, dual wielding, um, there
was that.
Doves are dual wielding.
Of course.
I haven't seen Graboids one, which no one had, there had seen except for me.
And I'm like, I haven't seen Graboids, like what's Graboids and I go nothing.
I made that up.
It's called tremors.
Yeah.
Oh, I see.
That's not fair.
I know.
That's, that was my, my trap.
That's really tough.
Anyway, uh, there was that and then you see the movie Xenomorph, there is a movie called
Xenomorph.
There is the movie about Xenomorph.
Uh, there's, there was that, there was, um, uh, geez, I'm drawing a blank, drawing
a blank.
Um, anyway, I slept in that, the movie, drawing a blank story and starring that guy with the
face.
Or is that just a monster in the movie?
There was one we watched at the start and I was like, holy shit, no one's ever seen
this.
That's crazy.
Oh God, I forgot.
Robocop.
Yeah, what about Robocop?
Almost no one there had seen Rob, one person had seen Robocop when they were young.
These people are garbage.
That's illegal.
Right?
Robocop is the best, most symmetrical movie ever.
Well, well, I, I'm not counting Rocky, Rocky, of course, seeing Robocop, but he goes, this
is the part.
This is the part.
So, out of the four guys not counting Rocky or you or the one other guy who saw it, most
of you didn't see it.
Yeah.
It's what you're telling me.
Yeah.
I don't understand the math here.
Uh, so one guy hadn't seen it, but that's more than like five.
He was a really big guy.
He's combined no knowledge of it was anyway, uh, you guys all might have something to say
about, but we had our, like, it's just, it's part of your curriculum.
It should be, but, um, you know, uh, we, uh, we had our, uh, wedding rehearsal dinner
at the island of Aganos, which I believe that's what the Greek restaurant was called.
That's what it was called.
It was the, it was the Ildepelos, but fuck that.
Panos.
It's fucking the island of Aganos and, uh, that was a little rough at the start.
Willie and Willie didn't quite get there when it got really rough, but like, hey, this is
the area.
We'll be sitting all 18 of you.
Oh, okay.
18 seats.
Cool.
And then they move us into some other back room, which is one long ass table with everyone,
like no room there.
And I just start going like, what the fuck?
I didn't appreciate our golem waiter rolling up to give us our soup plates and then throwing
stone bats at us for a while, but it was good.
It was good.
Yeah.
It was really good.
It was really.
Soup was a little salty.
Soup was a little salty.
It was a little salty.
Did you have lentils or your cream chicken?
I liked my cream of chicken.
I liked my cream of chicken.
I had to have the bread to soften it up a little bit.
Exactly.
So that really, really went well.
I hope you all enjoyed it.
What did you have for dessert, Willie?
Uh, what did I have for dessert?
You had a fucking...
I had...
Oh, God!
There was baklava.
There was a chocolate thing.
And then there was a weird Greek thing.
Galactic tornado.
Galactic tornado.
Galactic tornado.
Galactic tornado.
It was a super crazy space name for a Greek dish.
It was delicious.
So the Greek girl that was there looked at it and go, I don't even know how to say this.
And her last name is crazy.
I can pronounce Greek things, but I don't know what they mean.
When I took the class, that's all I learned was how to read that alphabet, and I have
no idea what I'm saying.
Gyro.
Yeah, gyro.
You want a fucking gyro now?
I would like a gyro.
Um, I hope you guys all enjoyed your baby toys.
This is great.
Dude, that was amazing.
That was great.
That was great.
Well, the girls, well, the bridal party got, you know, expected lady things.
From the bride, yeah.
From the bride, I gave you guys baby toys.
Like, everyone pulls out the things, I wasn't expecting, I didn't know the gifts were part
of a thing.
I didn't know that.
That was pretty cool, but no, exactly, like everyone's, you know, getting their like adult
presents out and we pull out these fucking art books and toys in a bag and PSN cards
are just like, and Rocky's sitting there eating the rest of his dinner with a lightsaber
in his lap.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Specifically the first one.
Kylo Ren's.
Yeah.
No, a Forced Awakens.
Sorry, Forced Awakens.
Yeah.
Kylo Ren's, yeah.
But those were fun to get, and of course I had to ask at least Willie and Liam, significant
others, like, does he have this, because I knew you didn't have a Sigma, but I wasn't
sure.
I was like, I thought I saw it somewhere.
No.
I put my shit when I opened up the candy package expecting candy and it was filled with curly
whirlies.
Oh, someone told me that.
I was like, what wizard knew.
Yeah.
That was good.
That was good.
You killed it.
You killed the gift can.
So yeah, thank you.
That was fun.
Artbook of Satoshi Kan?
Yo.
I was like, I'll get them.
They're not making those anymore.
No.
Well, the can.
Those Satoshi Kan ones.
Just what we knew.
Yeah.
I was like, even if he has this, I'll take it.
Each one has one of his bones grafted into them.
Do you have that gift I gave you?
Yeah.
Do you have any pieces of the one true con?
I went on Cranky's stream last night to stream some co-op zombies, ate my neighbors, which
was way, way tougher game than I remembered.
And we were bad at it.
That's a good stream.
Yeah.
It was a good stream.
But then we switched to Lakeview Cabin Collection.
Cranky was like, I don't know, horror.
Too scary.
Too spooky.
Too scary.
It was pretty hilarious.
And I love all this stream.
I'm like, Cranky, if you want this and you need to do that, you have to have sex in the
game.
Yeah.
And then he's like, can I not?
I don't know about that.
And everyone's like, fucking fuck Cranky!
Cranky, fuck!
Take off your cure or whatever.
Take off your, your, your, your, your, your, your, Kegurumi.
Whatever.
You guys will do it.
Kegura Sen.
And then we finished off some Texas attack that of course resulted in Cranky besting me.
I got one round off him, but he's still really on point on that.
I have never in any video game went from being so confident to being so shit after meeting
other people with you and then Cranky, and everyone else that I subsequently meet just
puts me lower and lower on the rung of Tetris attack scale.
You weren't there.
And I'm like, god damn it.
I used to like identify with this game as something that meant something to me.
You weren't there the first magfest.
You were doing something else at the card.
You never meant anything to me.
I went to the Pokemon puzzle league tournament, which is, you know, essentially just saying
the game.
And I saw that play.
I didn't play anybody because I looked at it.
I saw what was going on and I left because I couldn't handle the fucking, the screens
never stopped because combo is high level puzzle games.
It's like, it's, it's absurd.
It's great.
You have to cry out.
And my ceiling, my mental ceiling for the skill at this game was like the kids at the
community center I used to, I used to play with back in the day and watching them just
like combo.
And I was like, that's crazy.
Then eventually I get to the point that's approaching that and I feel good about myself.
Yeah.
It's like not idiot.
It's nice to, it's nice to be a basement.
It's nice to be a basement.
It's basement king.
Yeah.
Man, small pond.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Fuck.
I, I got a time to actually play some games.
Oddly enough.
What?
Yeah.
After you and I took a look at Fatal Frame made in black water, I played it for about
another hour or so.
How wet are you?
Got the, I'm always, the, the answer is soppy.
I'm going with sopping.
I really want to play that game.
I bought, I bought the full version after getting the little trial thingy and that kind of works
pretty well, but I assumed I bought, I had downloaded the full version.
Now you get like half, right?
And I'm like, it's a better way to do it, but it didn't take too long.
But I, you know, that guy's got pretty rough reviews and I'm not at a point where I can
say yet, but I can assume that I think the most roughest part of it was like it's gets
really repetitive and you're doing the same thing over and over, which I can understand
but I think this is also that the Fatal Frame hasn't come out in America in 10, 15 years
since Fatal Frame 3.
Long time ago.
Yeah.
On the PS2.
Well, no actually.
Spirit camera.
Really?
Come on.
Yeah.
Let's not count a spirit camera.
Fatal Frame 3, you know, the PS2.
Really?
So how has it been something that's been talked about every year since then?
Because Fatal Frame 4 was amazing and everyone saw it come out in Japan and then Fatal Frame
and Deep Crimson Butterfly was amazing and everyone saw it come out in Europe even closer
and then the movies were like three movies that came out and I feel like it's been like
a spirit camera.
It's been in the discussion world for years.
Isn't Region Locking great?
Right.
Well, I remember it was one of the obvious ones when the Wii U's like concept was shown
where it was like, yeah, Fatal Frame, that makes too much sense.
Guess what?
So people have been talking about it recently, I know, like even before this one was announced.
Yeah.
So I kept playing that for a bit and I really like it up until this point, like the mechanics
like are really involved and they make sense.
How's the combat?
Well, when we were doing the video, it was kind of difficult to sort of like, all right
now, like because when you're recording a video, it's a bit different, but once I stopped
doing that, like, and then I was playing like off camera for myself, like I got used to
it really, really easily.
And the one thing though is if you played Fatal Frame 4, you're familiar with the Wii
and Pat knows this really well and this constantly happened where they have that mechanic where
you hold down a button and you reach to get an item and a ghost usually pops up.
Oh no, silly ghost.
When I say usually, I mean, the one time it teaches you about it and every subsequent
at least like a dozen or more items, never a ghost pops up, we go, come on, come on,
come on.
It never happens.
That's great.
Just during this time.
The game looks great and the voice acting was pretty solid.
If not a bit odd.
How were the graphics?
Because from some screens, they looked just quite fantastic.
Character models are super high poly environments are not quite as good, but they make up for
that because it's super dark.
And there were some really good scary moments.
Do you remember that one where, yeah, we had this one where like it was kind of a situation
that you're all right, I've done this before, then a twist kind of, and you're just like,
oh, okay, that's cool.
I can never, you can never rest really.
I really want to play it, but I've no space on my Wii U and I don't want to buy a hard
drive.
So delete something on your Wii U.
Maybe I'll move to Europe.
Maybe that's the cheapest solution.
Why not delete something on your Wii U?
Because the only thing I have is patches and DLC from Nintendo and that fills up enough
space that I can.
Dude, that's me with the fucking Vita TV, man.
Yeah, we just had that happen.
Every time I want, I'm like, do you want to look at this JPEG?
Delete a game.
I'll give you an answer.
Persona's got a goat.
You can buy a new memory card.
You can buy a new memory card, I guess so.
Yeah, here's my advice.
As someone who's done that, here's my advice, don't do that.
The prices are absurd for this one.
Oh, they're high, for sure, but like, live with your annoyance.
I'll view my JPEG elsewhere.
Yeah, speaking of the Vita, Liam's already kind of pre-smiling that I've been actually
using it because I downloaded Prince of Persia at the Forgotten Sands, which was a brand
new Prince of Persia game I did not know existed.
So because we were talking about it the other week, I downloaded it as well.
And that game, go ahead.
So the thing with the Forgotten Sands trilogy is that the 360 game is completely different
from the Wii game, the DS game is completely different from all those, and the PSP game
is a straight up 2.5D left to right Prince of Persia game, but with cool sands of time
style, mechanics, and story, it's a really good marriage of both styles.
It's what you wanted, Assassin's Creed Chronicles, trying it to be minus the assassinations.
And this is the one that nobody really paid any attention to, so what's it exactly called?
The Forgotten Sands for the PSP, because the 360 version, that was the one they pushed
where we can have 50 enemies on screen, mobs, like Dynasty Warriors, and that game's good
too.
It's fine.
It's super easy.
It's super easy, only in the last hour where you get all your combined powers and then
you actually have to do some actual skill-based platforming.
Are you Jake Gyllenhaal?
They do this weird thing where they modeled the Prince and the Forgotten Sands a little
after the war within style, but also sands of time, so he's not really Jake Gyllenhaal.
He's got like normal clothes, but he's still got like the weird eye shadow thing going on.
This actor's definitely not Jake Gyllenhaal.
It's Yuri Lowenthal for the Forgotten Sands.
So I'm really enjoying that, I'm almost done it actually.
I finished it last night, it's super salt.
It's only like four hours long about, it's really tight, and it has a really good difficulty
curve.
I don't know if you've gotten there, but it starts getting pretty tough towards the end.
The last levels are hard.
And the last two things I played really quickly, I told Liam, I got Pursuit Force on the PSP,
and the only thing I'll say about Pursuit Force is that it's a crazy vehicle jumping
to things.
Jump on top of that car.
Yeah, but you know, the meter that governs a lot of actions, now in most games that we
play that have some type of meter governing cool actions, what's it usually called?
Focus.
Focus or style.
Style.
Yeah.
Style meter.
Boost.
This is called the Justice Meter.
The Justice Meter.
Nice.
And you have to fill up the Justice Meter, and then you go into a Berserker Justice Mode,
and you just do more damage.
For justice.
For justice.
And I'm like, all right, Pursuit Force, I will not delete you.
Let the rage of the NYPD guide you.
Guide you.
And I booted up.
I feel like James Small's hand is guiding that choice.
It seems like he was a part of the development.
I feel like he was somewhere involved.
He padded someone on the butt to keep going.
Yeah.
The last thing I played, not much to say about it, is Adventure Time, Finn and Jake investigations.
Oh no.
I can tell just from the tone of your voice.
Lay it on.
Another PSP game.
All right.
Because there's a lot of PSP push.
This is the PS3 game.
An Xbox One, PS4 game, and not much to say about it other than it's not funny at all.
The writing is not done by writers of the show.
Lightly now.
I noticed that you didn't come on and grab your friends.
I did not bring anyone over to look at this, because the mechanics of the game are sound.
Just walk over there and investigate this as an adventure game, but then I want more
flavor text out of this item that we're looking at.
This crazy item.
There's a skull and a wall.
Jake, what do you have to say?
Oh, yeah.
All right.
Press it again.
Look at that.
And then you go over to an oven and then you say, Finn, what is this?
And he goes, ah, I shouldn't touch that.
That's hot.
All right.
Isn't it telling when the best looking Adventure Time game type thing we saw was that thing
that wasn't an Adventure Time game?
It was just Jake and Finn guest starring in what was like an iPad game of some kind.
We saw it at PAX upstairs.
The Zelda one was pretty good.
We didn't know what exactly it was.
Adventure the...
Explore the dungeon because I didn't know.
No, no, no.
The Nameless Kingdom.
The Nameless Kingdom.
It's the best Adventure Time game so far that I've played personally.
Even that one, like the writing's not by...
It's clearly not by the core team, but there's some sensible chocolate for that.
Writing is better than this.
Another one or two bad games, and it's going to be like SpongeBob status.
Also, Finn and Jake Investigations has Batman Arkham Combat.
Shut up.
No.
Does it work well at least?
Not really.
No.
But it has it.
It has it.
You get into battle mode, and it says keep doing combos left and right, and then unleash
your super attacks.
Unleash the rage of the NYPD.
Unleash the rage of John DiBeggio.
Is your power...
Did you get super power?
Did you hit people with your like-like sweater?
Jake rolls into a big ball and just spins his fists.
So just take an established thing that works and just put the IP on top of it.
Why are we going to get the bad Rick and Morty game?
Adventure Time Moosa.
What are we going to get our bad Rick and Morty game?
That feels like a bad Rick and Morty game would actually be good.
It feels like they'd rather be parts of other games.
They'd rather guest star where they shouldn't be, than actually make their own game.
Can we just get people to mod the Telltale back to the future game with just Rick and
Morty voice calls?
Just get them in there.
Yeah.
Hey, did you guys know that it was the 30th anniversary of Back to the Future?
No, I never ever...
Did you know about that?
The marketing push of that was insane.
The 30th anniversary of Back to the Future.
Totally unavoidable.
And I was like, is this really that big a deal?
I guess it is.
It's a beautiful morning.
We were talking over each other, but I was going to say I love Back to the Future.
Very near and dear to my heart, stop pushing this so hard.
No.
It got gross.
You know what?
You know what?
Got gross?
Back to the Future 3.
Yeah, you're not even wrong.
That was like 25 years ago.
That's still a great movie to prepare for.
At the same time, at the same time, it's like you had a year or eight to like prepare.
Yeah.
Everyone knew it was kind of coming up.
Kimmel did the thing with it.
He had them come out on stage and do the bit.
Yeah, a little.
And that's all you really need.
That's all you really need.
It was more than that.
No, it certainly was.
It was.
Still up and around.
Anyway.
I can't.
You used to...
No.
No, you can't.
You stomping around?
Above my room?
No, no, no, Larry.
It's the Parkinson's.
I can't.
Whoa.
That bit is too...
Yeah, it sounds very cohesive.
Oh, it's not.
Well, you're doing it a great...
You're doing a great job.
Oh, hey man.
I want Larry David.
If it's good enough for Larry David, then it's good enough for us.
I want Larry David to become a character and work in Morty.
It really is.
Yeah.
You don't know.
Anyway, that was me.
That was a good week.
All right.
Pat, anything...
You got any Parkinson's jokes to drop on us this week?
No, I had mine.
Okay.
Let's see.
I played Street Fighter V, but I guess we'll leave that to a little more group discussion.
Sure.
I played on Liam's recommendation.
Feel free to jump in at any time on this one.
Assassin's Creed Syndicate.
Which is actually pretty good.
It's really good.
It's brilliant.
I'm taking a while.
I walked into you guys talking, and then I heard Liam say, Syndicate's pretty good.
And I was like, okay, wait, pause.
What does this mean?
Does he mean the Bullfrog game that, yes, is really good?
Or the modern remake?
Starbreeze.
Starbreeze.
Why would that be any good?
Is it that one?
Never in my mind would it have occurred.
No.
Assassin's Creed Syndicate.
No.
Assassin's Creed Syndicate.
Because we were so far removed last week from even thinking about this game.
It's really smart what they did, because they kept having problems with protagonists sucking.
And who beat Black Flag in here?
I know.
You did?
What's the name of the character in Black Flag?
The main word?
The main word.
The main word.
I had trouble.
Even I knew that.
And we're Kenway, dude.
That's not no.
I forget the guy in Assassin's Creed III.
But I talked about Kenway.
No.
No.
I didn't hate them Kenway.
I didn't hate them.
I couldn't remember hate them.
I remembered him.
I felt like since Ezio, they haven't really had a good old tag.
Edward's fine.
Any game, any Assassin's Creed game that you beat, it's like you've spent so many hours
with this thing, you're going to remember.
So I don't know, I completely forgot his name.
But anyway, point is, these two characters, the Fry Twins.
Evie and Jacob.
They made a really smart decision by making one really bad, annoying character so that
the other character looks awesome in comparison.
They play off each other.
Jacob's not annoying.
Jacob sucks.
He's a total meathead.
He's great.
I can't stand him.
But I like that.
I have played the entire game as Evie so far.
Well, you've played two chapters of eight, right?
No, three.
Three?
Okay, yeah.
And the only time I've ever played as him is the missions that forced me to play as
him.
He's so stupid.
He is stupid.
So dumb.
But yeah, no.
That doesn't make him bad.
He's cool.
He's a hoodie.
He's part of the order.
He's like, we get to the new town and he's like, we're going to make a gang called the
Rooks.
And Evie's like...
You're an idiot.
What?
Stop.
And then he just does it anyway.
And he's just got a gang.
That being said, Evie does feel more like the main character.
Evie's great.
Like the assassin.
Evie could carry the game, but I prefer having two characters to play off each other.
She even gives her more classic assassin clothes as well.
Initially, definitely.
So why is the formula not bogging you down?
Well, for one thing, that grappling hook is absurd.
Grappling hook's amazing.
You know when you want to go to a sink point and it takes 30 seconds to a minute to get
up there?
Yeah.
It takes five seconds now.
Okay.
So I showed Matt...
I couldn't believe it.
Like, hey, here's Big Ben.
And I hit L1 and she hits the top of Big Ben in 10 seconds.
I spent the rest of my day picking the jaw off the floor.
The best bit about it is they don't just like zip to the top.
They like scale it and they bounce off certain points.
They like repel.
It looks great.
It looks really good.
And then you get to the top of Big Ben and you're like, I want to go over there and then
you point at a ledge and you zip over there.
So the entire climbing is now not a thing.
It's still a thing.
It's like, I want to go in that window.
But if you're fleeing from somebody, you don't ever really have to like climb a surface
and get away from them.
You can just...
Could you avoid equipping or getting the grab?
No, it's spilt in.
Are there sound clips of dead yellow?
SSE?
No.
When you run by?
There's new ones.
Yeah.
There's new ones.
And they're character specific to Evie and Jacob and they'll say different things depending
on who's doing shit.
So I don't know.
Look at that bed.
It's just in Unity.
So Liam, let me know if they...
Jog on, mate.
Jog on.
But there's a lot more like side activities that are like kill everybody silently in
a stealthy way.
Yeah.
And now the game actually has a stealth button and stealth mechanics.
In Unity, that was where they introduced all the stealth mechanics and stuff and they
worked great.
Well, I feel like light matter yet.
No, but it's baby stealth.
Assassin's Creed is always good at baby stealth because like...
Because after Thief and now Metal Gear and stuff, it's like you've had different entries
into the stealth genre that you might...
Yeah.
And it's always like you go back to Assassin's Creed and you go, oh yeah, it doesn't matter.
It's baby stealth.
Well, here's the thing though is now it's like the combat's like Batman kind of thing, right?
But now the stealth is like Batman because after you jump off a roof and kill a guy,
you hit L1 and go right back to the top of the roof and scope out where the rest of the
guys are like just like going back up under the gargoyles kind of thing.
Yeah, okay.
Is the trade off, I guess, that they can shoot you more frequently if they see you?
No, some characters can shoot you.
Pretty much everyone has a gun in this game.
But some of them...
Like almost every enemy can shoot you.
There's like the rifle type character that is actually the lookout that will actually
just see you and shoot you.
And then the other characters use them as like, oh, you're in combat, but that person's four
feet away from you.
Just outside that ring around you where fights happen.
Yeah.
There's a certain point in history where the Arkham Slash Assassin-style group battle
of you killing like a surrounded group...surrounded by like 12 guys, you kill them all with melee.
Now.
Doesn't work because dudes have smaller, faster guns.
Luckily, in this era, the assassins have gained spider sense and have the ability to
dodge bullets.
Well, what it is is like they see them pull the gun out and you get a triangle prompt
and hit triangle.
Dodge the bullet.
Dodge and counter with your own.
So sometimes you don't...sometimes I don't counter with, but like when you're running,
they will straight up like headset bullets and it's like, okay, whatever, they can just
dodge bullets now.
Like it seems crazy, but it makes it fun because it was never fun in the Assassin's Creed games
to be running away and just get hit for a time.
Assassin's Creed 3 had that cool body shield mechanic, but most of the time it's suck.
So you're going to get the experience of going straight from a black flag to this without
unity.
I played maybe an hour or two of the video.
Okay.
Because I was going to say like, yeah, there's got to be a mechanic.
Unity felt bad to touch.
Like the controls and the frame rate and the general feel was just like, yeah, this game
runs really well.
It doesn't run quite as good as black flag, but it looks a lot better than black flag.
And it'll drop maybe once an hour when I'm playing and it's when I come down off a roof
into the middle of a street with lots of carriages and stuff like that.
Yeah.
Like it plays better than any of the old good games played on 360.
I don't understand this franchise.
Well, they saw the backlash for Unity and they addressed everything really well.
But is this now the pace?
Is it Windows now or just?
Windows?
Oh, every other version?
Maybe.
Who knows?
You got rogue last year or something.
What happens?
Right now, like the mission design is actually much better.
I haven't had a single tail mission, for example.
Yeah, I've had like one, but that's it.
I really hope there's a level where you talk to a guy named like Dr. Jekyll and you're
like, hey, drink this.
So you...
Yeah.
That'll be...
What?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Like, I'm sorry, I didn't know.
I did a mission that was the Fleet Street investigation.
Oh, yeah.
Okay, okay.
They're like, it's really fun, actually.
But I know that every assassin has shaped the modern art.
And you go around with Arthur Conan Doyle and like you see all of his fake book origins
and Karl Marx is there and he does stuff too.
Like in no other franchise do you have the statement, I thought I was getting out of
the game, but you keep pulling me back in like literally every other game.
Again, Liam, I'll defer to you on this because you played Unity for real.
The combat is way improved.
Like I don't use the same basic button layout as Unity, which is dodge, guard, break and
attack.
But the changes they've made in which like the way that guys go into near death states
when their health is low and you can get upgrades to put multiple guys in your death
states, you can finally actually control if you do double or multi kills by getting
multiple guys into near death states next to each other and they're hitting them.
Also the introduction of like, how do I put this?
Wall combos is my favorite thing in the combat.
It's purely a visual change.
But if you're beating some guys ass right next to a wall lamp or no, no, no, no, no.
You're beating their ass next to a wall.
What your character will do is grab them by the shoulder and turn them towards the wall
and push them.
So they kind of like their shoulders at the wall and they kind of and they're like, oh,
and then you will start to combo them and your combos will be bouncing them off the
wall.
Unique set of animations for beating their ass to the wall and the kill animations against
the wall are the longest and meanest I have ever seen.
They say that every year.
No, like you have a sword cane like Evie will knock them out and then back up like six
feet from the wall and throw knives at them and pin them to the wall and then go back
and start kicking their ass when they're into the wall.
It's like 10 seconds long.
The speed of the combat and the three weapons, which are like fists, cane and kukri like
a short knife are fantastic.
It has a totally different feel.
There's no long swords, no spears.
If I was going to make a recommendation to people, I would tell them that let like let
play Evie with her cane and play Jacob with his fists to make them feel more different.
I switched Evie to a kukri because it's just I switch between the kukri and the staff depending
on which one is stronger at the time.
But I'm never going to give her the fists.
I think the three weapons should be like a copy of FIFA, a flake bar and a beer, a flake
bar.
Just a crumbles and someone's like, wait, let me get some of this flakey right now.
Wait, I need to attack with that still.
Yeah, yeah.
And a Manchester U.
A Manchester U.
While I remember disparaging the shit out of it like years ago when it was first floated,
my grimy ass Victorian England is actually a pretty good setting because it's horrible.
It's the worst place that ever was in all of history.
I remember years ago we had said like, oh, it was when the order was coming out.
So mechanics aside, now you have what I need, which is Assassin's Creed plot, Assassin's
Creed like story set.
Assassin's Star goes shit.
What did I tell you?
You asked me about the future thing.
I asked you who you are playing in the future is and Liam went, I don't know.
And I played it and I'm like, oh, oh, they want to run away from that hard.
Well, because now Unity onwards and actually including Liberation was the first one that
did it.
You just play as a guy enjoying the absurd, or just a guy enjoying the absurd or whatever
system.
So what is the real world element of Unity?
Who gives a shit?
But what is it actually?
You're playing the video game.
Is there any first person moments at all or is it just Unity?
That was only in four.
That was really only in four and it was terrible and everything since the first game in the
future has been terrible.
Is there a boot sequence?
Yeah, there's a boot sequence.
They start up the Abstergo Entertainment System and then the Assassins hack it and you're
like, stop.
I don't want the guys on the screen anymore.
You're working for us now and your character ostensibly says, okay, they don't speak.
Dude, like when they started hacking it, I was like, don't do this.
Well, is it the same guys?
It's Sean and what's Erebekah?
Sean Hastings and Rebekah Crane are now the main characters of Assassin's Creed.
And they're in there and they're bombing stuff and they're diving off buildings.
It's so pointless and stupid if they had just made Assassin's Creed from the start.
Here are time periods, go, compelling story within that time period.
I never had a problem with Becca.
I think she's fine.
She's great.
She's the best character.
But yeah.
Call of Duty doesn't matter, right?
Every year it's a different story.
It doesn't really matter.
And in this, it's just because of the future shit, you can't, no, but what I mean is that
you can't continue Desmond anymore because it's ridiculous.
Desmond's dead.
Yeah.
That's what I'm meaning.
In four, I don't know if you remember this, but that did have a subplot in the modern
world about Minerva and Minerva continues to exist.
Yes.
And the fact that they keep doing these VR, Sam, like, look, the modern era still exists.
No, it's still there.
They clearly intend to go back to that one day, but also it seems clear that that plan
is not actually on paper.
They just want to leave it open.
Because syndicate's the worst with it.
You get a 30 second cutscene maybe.
I've liked the game for like 10 hours.
I still haven't seen a second cutscene.
Because I know the answer is it doesn't matter, but I still, it's like, it's so weird to release
a game that just has nothing.
It's there, but it's less present than ever.
Which is great.
Yeah.
Okay.
I just like, what was the point at all?
The hinge of your franchise.
It was the hinge of the franchise.
Remember when Kristen Bell spoiled the whole thing?
Yeah.
I brought that up.
I always bring that up.
I never let that go.
Do you remember before she spoiled the whole thing, someone else spoiled the whole thing?
No.
I didn't know about that until I read her.
The day that game was announced at E30, a guy on the floor giving the demo just told
someone that it was all like in the matrix and the future stuff.
And people went, what?
That's crazy.
And then like, you never saw it again and it got swept out into the rug until Kristen
Bell did it.
Until Kristen Bell did it.
But like day one, that game was spoiled.
Yeah.
I guess I like, I understand that it was like poorly executed over the years.
What?
It would still be super weird to just completely pretend it never happened.
I don't even think Rogue, I think Rogue is the same thing.
It's got like 30 seconds.
I really liked how Ford did it, honestly.
I like the stupid gimmick of being a beta tester for a video game.
I like that it's already weird that you're saying that it's worth checking back in until
the franchise.
If you, if you, like I view Assassin's Creed as like my AAA junk food and I like to run
around the map and collect the things.
You like to check the boxes?
I like to check the boxes.
I want to see my, your character level's up now, which is totally superfluous.
Like, like, oh, there's a skill tree and you can kind of like, which ones you get first,
but you're going to get them all.
So the two characters have different skills, but they, the different skills, there's only
three out of like 28 that are different and they're all the way at the end of the trees
and the way the trees work is it costs more level up points the farther down you go.
So they're not going to be different for me because I like to keep them the same because
they would do both the same things.
Like at the very end of the game, Eevee will be able to turn invisible and Jacob will be
slightly better.
I'm at memory whatever five and they're capped out.
Oh, really?
So not the end of the game.
So does that just replace like getting better weapons and staying?
No, you still have to stop the gear honestly.
You have the improved gear system from you from Unity where like it's just a lot more
detailed and you can honestly individual piece of gear.
I really just like that much improved that that gear that that inventory screen.
is so complicated.
Okay, but how do I craft bombs though?
Tell me more about crafting bombs.
No, there is you can upgrade your bombs.
Yeah, you can upgrade them, but it's just you bought a different bomb.
If you if you feel like talking about in Revelation, I know I remember if I'm talking about Assassin's
Creed bomb craft, if you have that bomb orations to play that kind of game, you generate those
boxes and run around open world, then this is one that when you get it, you'll be happy
with it because it's going to do what you want.
It's not setting the world on fire and it's not saving the franchise, but it's good.
I think skipping one regardless of how how good or bad it is, it always refreshes you
a little bit.
Now that it's not saving the franchise, but it is no, it just sold the worst of anything
but it ties with Black Friday.
The fact that you're telling people, including us and anyone listening to this, that they
should probably play Syndicate is saving the franchise.
There's a difference between like a blank and endorsement of like Brotherhood, where
I was like everyone should go play Brotherhood, that game's amazing, and me saying if you
like Assassin's Creed games and still have one in the tank, this one's a good one.
I think there's a difference.
I like this one better than Brotherhood.
I really like it better.
I bet I can get there.
I would never because I love Brotherhood's multiplayer.
I need to unlock more fighty missions.
I don't get to fight enough as of right now because the groups that roam the streets
are three guys and like you kill three guys in one second.
Go to Westminster where the level nine enemies are.
I don't think I have one left in the tank, but if you're saying, I don't think I do,
but if you're saying I do.
I have more faith in you than you do.
I cared a lot about Assassin's Creed the most about Assassin's Creed.
Probably the biggest weirdo bummer is like now that the overarching story longer matters,
feel free to skip one or two at any time because, and Liam, you said something really
interesting.
You said that every game gets to have one new movement option.
Yeah, I was thinking about it and it's like, you know, the core formula is like it's climbing
and assassinating, right?
And I feel like, I feel like somewhere there's a paper, some sort of mandate out there that's
like, okay, when you get to make an Assassin's Creed game, you get to break a couple of those
a little bit, but not too much.
And it's like the game after this is in a tough position where it has to be able to
match up to what the grappling hook had.
And I'm thinking about it and like Unity and Brotherhood, yeah, Unity and Brotherhood
had the parachute and that let you skip the whole going down section.
And Revelation 10's game lets you skip the going up.
The ziplines, which works like the grappling game.
If you had a game that had the hook and had the grapple hook and had the parachute, you
would just entirely skip the movement.
How about, it would be just cause, so there must be some sort of mandate somewhere in Ubisoft
that's like, you get to break an element of it.
And Black Flag didn't have any of those, but instead most of your movement in that game
was on a boat.
How about the next game you just play as equipment?
Or just a bladed parachute that can shoot ziplines.
Honestly, most of the time I feel like that's what the game is.
I'm a knife attached to a grappling hook.
Aside from a cutscene and you know.
Please report in when Final Boss Andros D'Borgia shows up.
And for an epic, for an epic, for an epic, I have heard that this game's ending in Final
Boss is like the worst.
I heard the last boss is bad too.
I thought the first boss, and it was fine, Unity has the best mid-game boss.
I remember you telling us about that.
Or like the best Assassin's Creed boss halfway through the game.
But you say that, but when I think about it.
I'm never going to play it, so skip forward two minutes if you don't want to hear this.
You fight the guy who trained your character all through his life, and you fight him on
the side of, fuck what's that building in France, anyway.
You fight him on the side of this gorgeous church.
Notre Dame.
Notre Dame.
You fight him on the side of that, and it's raining, and the cameras pulled that back
at a cinematic angle.
So it's side view?
No, like up, it looks really good.
And it's got the bullshit graphics that Unity has that they actually had to cut back for
Syndicate.
Oh yeah, it's very clear.
Syndicate's a worse looking game than Unity.
Okay.
Clearly.
But it runs well.
It runs great.
So no problems there.
So it's an evanescence music video battle.
Yeah, that's why Brotherhood was better looking.
It ran like shit, and Revelations didn't look like they had better, it's art, and it's
aesthetic, and it's town were shit here, but it ran way better to me.
Yeah, all I played was Syndicate, so I'll pass it on to Lee, and you can move into whatever
you want.
Yeah, one last thing on Syndicate.
I played Unity a lot, and one of the things I hated about Unity, it was a very vocal complaint
that a lot of people had.
The British accents.
No.
It was the social chests and shit.
Oh yeah.
In Unity, there was a huge multiplayer suite in Unity.
A lot of missions, you could play four player co-op, and it was actually really fun.
I hate co-op, but it's actually really good.
Multiplayer is completely removed, and for the social shit, they've paired it down very
well.
So in Unity, there were these chests where you had to be connected to the Assassin's
Creed Initiates program on Ubisoft, and you leveled up in that program by playing a variety
of Assassin's Creed games.
So in Unity, you'd be able to open the level one chest, and you'd eventually level three
chest.
But you did a level nine chest, and how do you open a level nine chest?
You beat two other Assassin's Creed games, like, fuck that.
In Black Flag, the social chests were...
Oh, those existed in Black Flag?
But they were literally just chests that would appear when you were connected to the
internet.
Yeah, that's what it was.
If you found one, it would ping on people and your friends.
Oh, that's fine.
That's funny.
And they were whales you could hunt, and special boats you could crash.
Oh, that's cool.
Like, sometimes they were tough boats, but you could fuck them up.
Man, those shark and whale fights were awesome.
And in Unity, the other ones, they had like a mobile game, and there were these chests
in the game.
Sorry, those super boats were bullshit, though.
I'd be all...
Because they would fucking...
They would turn, like, Dark Souls bosses.
Those super boats were SNK bosses in boat form, because they didn't follow the rules
of the boat combat.
Why does that boat have an over-tracking...
They would straight up cheat.
They would make turns and speeds that were impossible.
They would shoot from distances in which you could barely see them.
They would kill you on one ram.
That's awesome.
It had tracking overheads.
Yeah.
They literally would turn on the spot.
They would stop moving and rotate towards you.
How did this boat cross me up?
I remember there was one that had, like, a border that the border would, like, change
direction to follow your boat.
Wow.
That was super nuts.
Beat all of them.
Congrats.
That was awesome.
It's good for your Assassin's Creed Initiates level, which you don't have to worry about
anymore.
Yeah, because since I beat all of the Black Flag stuff, I will, by the end of Unity,
have enough special Assassin's Creed points to get, like, a CEO's shirt.
I really wish they would release Rogue on PS4 and PS5 and Xbox One, and just make it run
better.
It doesn't even have to look great to make it run even better.
Just make the movie for all the games you didn't play.
Just make a movie.
The other one was they had, like, a mobile game thing that was a generic mobile game.
It was kind of fun at the beginning, but towards the end it became the grind, you know.
And that was connected to Unity as well, and there were chests you could only open if you
done certain things in the mobile game.
And that was Dreck, and they've just completely chopped those out completely, and now there's
just very rarely you'll get notified, like, hey, a Helix thing has appeared on the map,
and it'll say you have six hours to go collect it if you want.
And then if you collect it, it pings out to people and your friends?
Well, you collect it, and what it is, is it's the free-to-play box that you normally have
to pay money for.
You get a couple free ones, and then all your friends get paid to get one as well.
So it looks like they're using this, and I don't know if they've rolled it out completely,
but I saw a bunch of stories for all the new social marketing groups they have set up.
So they've got the Assassin's Creed Brotherhood Forum thing, where you join and you get your
initiate points, and all that stuff you're talking about.
I'm pretty sure all that thing's, everything's been pretty much trashed.
It feels like it's all been rolled into the club.
Yeah.
Okay.
Yeah.
Okay, because there was an announcement for this new forum thing a couple weeks ago,
and then they, yeah.
The club encompasses two-point levels, and it's also stretching Uplay, and it's the console
version of Uplay rebranded, and they've just rolled up a bunch of shit.
Yeah.
And it incorporates two-point system, one, which is your Uplay points that you get from
specific achievements, and the second one is what appears to be your initiate points,
which is a much larger achievement thing for specific series.
So I currently have-
You've done this much in Assassin's Creed games.
Like Assassin's Creed has Black Flag, Unity, and Syndicate popped in with.
And China.
And each game only gives, like, 3,500 per or something.
I don't remember.
What's the aggregate?
But what about my Erudito coin?
To get, like, a Tio costume in Syndicate, you need 7,200 points, which is more than
any one game has.
Damn.
So...
I don't think so.
Yeah.
Well, I think you can just spend Uplay points.
Yeah, no, but I mean, to get it just for free without spending any points, you need
to have beaten at least one Assassin's Creed game, and then Syndicate.
That's so stupid.
I'd say it would be like a skeleton in a costume, because it's so basic.
Yeah.
Yeah, it's true.
Just one final point on Assassin's Creed.
The reason why I think it's such a shame all the story stuff is just kind of jettisoned
is remember how excited you were when you were about to learn the truth.
In Assassin's Creed 2.
Remember that?
Remember the truth?
I don't remember everything about everything.
And that's just like, fuck all that now, that's all we had in the tank.
And the action.
But it was the most exciting thing ever, to let the truth, and then it was just-
And the truth was actually pretty interesting.
I don't know how well you remember it, but that was great and true, and it was amazing
in Brotherhood, and it all fell apart in Revelations when you got to finally meet Subject 16.
And he talks, and he blurs you.
And he talks, and you're just like, oh, I don't want it.
Go back to me not knowing.
Then the whole yearly annual thing just ruins any chance of a story ever appearing again,
I think, unless they're working towards a big mega one like Pataloo.
Well, it's just because they pulled a heat style middle of the movie ending, where it's
like, and this is the end of Desmond's story, or would be, except now we go, blah, blah,
blah, blah, blah.
Well, you know, it's only ever going to appear in a core Ubisoft Montreal game, because it
always-
It's what Syndicate's made primarily about Ubisoft Quebec, is that right?
Yeah, exactly.
Which, other than that, is the developer of Forgotten Sands.
Yes, it is.
No, they're consistent, across years.
I'm sure it's looking back on it, too.
Like, AC3 was the one that was evolutionary, and then AC4 wasn't.
It was just a side thing, and the Rogue was just a side thing.
And then Unity was really evolutionary, busted, but revolutionary.
And then Syndicate's just another side thing built up.
Assassin's Creed has gone from the great new hope for video games to please wait for the
reviews.
It might be an idea.
Yeah, it goes a good year, but it might be a bad one.
Like, I feel towards Assassin's Creed how some people might feel towards sports games.
Yeah, I agree.
Is Madden good this year?
Do you see it, like, NBA Live sold, like, 8,000 units?
Yeah, that's what it is.
Did you hear the breakdown of the NBA Live story mode written by Spike Lee?
I didn't.
But I've always been curious.
No, but I'm just thinking back to when-
It's a Spike Lee joint.
It's a Spike Lee joint, you know?
Because I've been curious since I heard it was Spike Lee.
It sounds like the worst thing that has happened.
Gotta get started on that full LP.
Well, you did say it was a Spike Lee joint.
Dude, so there's not much else to say.
I think the last week or two weeks ago, the Giant Beast cast, they just broke down the
whole thing.
Alex started.
Oh, man, that story mode.
Yeah.
I don't know.
You're making-
Tell me about it.
Don't just say, oh man.
Guess what?
You're an up-and-coming basketball player, and you know, your coach is a good guy, and
your sister's overbearing, but you have this friend, man.
This friend, Vince, man.
He's trouble.
He's from the old days.
Vince is going to get you into trouble.
Do you see Rosario Dust as boobs?
Ever know.
And everyone's telling you, man, you got to get off Vince, man.
He's got bad trouble.
And then-
Bad trouble.
And then, whoa.
Okay, so-
Okay.
I don't want to spoil the ending.
I know, I know.
This is a bad or good-
It's the worst thing ever.
Okay, so there's a movie called He Got Game.
He already did this.
It existed.
Ghosts are involved.
Oh!
We got him.
Look at that.
Hold the phone.
All right.
That's a real video.
Fuck it.
I'll probably just tell you.
So, eventually, eventually, the main character says to Vince.
He's like, man, is his name Vince?
I don't know.
I think it is.
And it's, man, I got to cut you off, man.
I got like, you know, you mess up my future for my game and my basketball and my family.
My family.
Vince being the dirtbag that he is.
He's like, I'm going to blackmail you because you accidentally, this guy attacked you when
you were six and you pushed him down the stairs and he died.
I had to clean it up, man.
I had to clean it up for you so you wouldn't fuck up your life.
But now you try to cut me off.
I'll fucking, I'll fucking get you.
And then your character's like, oh no, what am I going to do?
And then Vince just miraculously dies on a car crash like immediately after that.
Thank you, Jesus.
Because they can't have a combat engine in the NBA.
So then you and your sister are just, are just joshing around being like, man, isn't
it crazy how that stuff happened, isn't it?
By the way, it's all just terribly written apparently.
Just add that in.
It's crazy, man.
Vince is dead.
Oh man.
Oh wow, that's life, man.
That's, that's, that's for real.
That's the game.
And then they leave and then Vince comes out on the court and like all white and he's a
ghost from heaven.
And he takes out a piece of paper and reads this huge monologue about how the game story
was really about him and his life choices and how he got here.
And all like, oh fuck.
Wait, is this the new Assassin's Creed?
Yeah, yeah.
I highly, I highly, the way Alex Navarro describes it.
White people.
It's like this black people.
Like that.
See black guys, they drive a car like this.
The way, the way Navarro describes it is like a, like a shitty place.
Spike Lee wrote 30 years ago that never got off the ground.
Amazing.
Lots of long monologues.
Everything has to be a weird story about how men, I was a kid and I had a friend.
He was like, just.
If you sew a Spike Lee joint.
Like.
All right.
Was Inside Man a Spike Lee?
No, it was, but it wasn't.
Because Inside Man is directed by Spike Lee, but it's about Clive Owen.
And it's a good movie.
See, but not everything is a joint though.
Yeah.
No, of course not.
25 hours.
Right.
So this is, that's NBA live.
I believe that's the new.
NBA live rogue, I believe.
I'm sure I made some mistakes at some point in there, but the important thing is ghosts.
All right.
That's amazing.
Oh, and then you become a basketball player by your parents house and then the career
mode continues.
You just don't get, you just, you don't get messages from D-Mob anymore, but the story
continues.
On your sidekick.
Yeah.
I have a lot of memories.
Liam.
I played like 10 hours of Tales of Zestiria.
Oh, I haven't even started.
Is it, is it Zestria?
I keep reading it.
Zestria.
Zestria.
I say Zestria.
There's an I.
There's an I in there.
Can we get the slot machine to choose what the next Tales of Game's name is going to
be?
Yeah.
Just.
Boliferu.
Yeah.
Boleria.
Like venereal disease.
Tales of Malaria.
If I saw Tales of Bolio.
If I saw Tales of Boletaria.
I would play Tales of Boletaria.
Would you not, Liam?
Of course.
Namco Bandai didn't ruin my life.
Fucking Polio.
Tales of Toxoplasmosis.
Stop.
I barely played any Tales games.
And the last one I played was Hearts R, which was, it was really generic, but it was fine.
It was good.
Like I liked it.
No.
No.
That was a Tales game.
Zestiria is fucking bad.
Yeah.
What the fuck went wrong with this game?
It's like.
It's like.
It's like.
It's like.
It's like.
It's like.
It's like.
It's like.
Fuck went wrong with this game.
It's like.
The current one.
I've only played four or five Tales games, but what the hell happened?
Is it one of the situations where you start to play and you're like right away, like what the hell?
Dude, until you get your fifth party member, there's no rational reason for any conflict within the party.
Nice.
And there's a bit of stupid bullshit character drama just to make the two main characters fight.
How do you screw up Tales writing?
The worse?
No, because it's exactly like Assassin's Creed.
Is this a good year?
It's the same thing.
It's good years.
It's the Assassin's Creed of Japan.
Because Symphonia.
Strike formula.
Muso.
It's like good year back here in Japan.
Symphonia and Abyss.
Symphonia and Abyss, fine, completely good for the time that they came out.
And then there's this one that I hate with a passion, which is Legendia, which is on the PS2.
And it's a 2D thing.
And the shame of this game is that its character designer is a guy that, like Jesus, designed,
did the illustrations for Samurai Champloo.
Okay, yeah.
The design of that, right?
Because Mugen and Jin are in that game with different hair colors.
And they look good and it's the worst cast of any JRPG I've ever seen where they hate each other.
That's for no reason.
No one gets along, but there's no reason for them not to get along.
I don't like you.
Right.
I finished that game because I felt compelled to because I might want to see these idiots
suffer.
And then the 360 one.
Vesperia.
Vesperia is considered good.
Well, they had a huge budget because Microsoft was like just make whatever.
And there's a character named after you.
You're low in thought.
So that's a good one.
And after that, the other couple.
It was Zilean.
I didn't play those.
Zilean, I didn't play those.
All of those could be shit for all of them.
Zilean too.
Exactly.
Yeah, I'm playing it.
And it's like, I was really excited for it.
So like, oh, I'll give it a go.
It's open world.
It's a bit different this time.
Let's see.
They're like, they're really pushing it with open world.
It's the same level design as any tales game.
Except, you know how normally you get to the world map and you're just a giant representation
of this character?
Instead of that, just the map is to scale with you.
Effectively.
Like it's, it doesn't have any of the traits of an open world game.
Like there's, you can't just go there and do like a side mission or something.
It's still effectively just hallways and the world is still a dungeon.
And there's tons of, oh man.
The other thing I heard good about is that its combat is pretty good.
The combat's boring, I find.
Even the like exciting mechanic where you like merge with certain characters is like,
it's not satisfying, I find.
And it's a shame because I like the idea of the plot with the, oh fuck, what's it called?
Sounds very memorable.
Zestria.
Zestria.
Zestria.
Is that an object?
No.
Do they give it a name?
Not so far.
Is it ever a thing that exists in any Tales of Destiny?
Tales of Hearts was like, is really close to what's a thing in the game.
There's a thing.
Destiny is a thing.
Do you find out what a Legendia is, ever?
Legendia is just the name of the client though.
Yes.
But I'm really not enjoying the game.
I looked it up apparently.
I'm like a fifth of the way through the game.
Time to start.
And that was why I said, let me try Assassin's Creed because it can't get worse from here.
So thank God I played that game.
So you had a good set up.
Yeah, a good set up, exactly.
So you just ate junk food all week.
And yeah, I plowed through the Forgotten Sand, which was like bargain caviar.
Bargain caviar.
Bargain caviar.
I like that.
It was good.
Exactly, exactly.
That game's good.
I think you'd like it, Willie.
It's super solid.
Again, it's like Assassin's Creed Chronicles minus the Assassin bit.
The combat is also not great, but it's not bad.
The combat's got a lot of cool stuff going on.
Did you know you can jump on the wall and do like Vega die across the stage?
No, I just unlocked that.
This Prince of Persia lets you select your moves and level them up and you just need to get like some extra things.
It's not digital though, right?
Yeah, it is.
On Vita.
Yeah.
Good.
I also downloaded Revelations.
And Rival Swords, I bet.
No, I did not.
Revelations is just, for Willie, you don't know, it's just warrior within with extra levels.
Sure.
It's more.
Revelations plus.
Anyway, I digress.
But that's it.
I'm still playing Corpse Party, but I'm only like halfway through, so nothing new to say.
Don't say it.
There's bits where monsters chase you and like the frame rate hiccups give you more time to think about where you need to go.
So it's kind of handy.
Don't really get what I'm about to say because I knew it was coming.
It's pretty funny.
Say it anyway.
Come on.
No, it's time.
What about you, Wolvesman?
So actually, I'm going to start my week with a little PSA.
What?
If you are downloading this on iTunes or if you don't see the iTunes version, it's because
there's some weird things going on in Apple and they're taking longer than usual to update their podcast listings.
So we have no control over that.
This happened last week, right?
This happened last week and it made me go through two variations of the podcast.
We're had to edit out what I thought might have been copyrighted.
The song at the end.
The beginning of the song might have been recognized or something would have been a problem.
So I edited that and then tried again.
And no, it was just them being so...
So it's on their end.
Yeah.
Okay.
Blame Tim Cook.
Yeah, it got up eventually, but it took half a week for it to get up there.
It's not great.
Yeah, not great.
It happens to every podcast now and then.
And it hurts the people like hurting it right away.
No, it hurts that.
So that sucks.
No, I finished off True Detective Season 1 finally, which means I finished off the series.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
As far as I can tell.
Pizza Man never wrote anything again.
Why would you put a sequel on an ending like that?
Why?
Well, the sequel is totally separate.
Totally separate.
Thank God.
Enable it.
Thank God.
And that means that since Season 2 is bad and you don't have to watch it, if Season 3 is
good, there's no problem.
There's no problem.
Perfect.
Perfect.
All right.
So it could be like the docs, basically.
That's fine.
Right now, I'm still in my head over the amount of literary references and crazy shit they
get into over the course of their show.
A lot of very subtle HP Lovecraft hints.
The Yellow King is HP Lovecraft.
Exactly.
Carcosa.
I wish they pushed it even harder.
Not a lot, but I wish it was a little bit more.
A little bit more.
And I think anything is to be honest, like going back now, because I avoided all discussion
while it was happening, of course, but during the course of the show, before anyone knew
what the ending was, people were all thinking it was going in that direction.
I was on message boards diving deep into nonsense theories.
We're waiting for like the fucking hard swerve on the steering wheel into the unknowable horror.
And it only skirts the edges of the beach.
Which is perfect.
It's perfect.
It's fantastic.
Because it might be there.
It's unclear as to whether or not that was there.
But I do think there should have been a nine-episode season instead of an eight-episode season,
just to give more time.
I thought it was time.
It was eight.
Was it early eight?
Eight.
It was time to the closing of the case.
Yeah, they blow through that case.
Yeah, because there's a reveal, and then it's like, then they go from reveal to fucking
wrap it up, wrap that shit up, we gotta go in less than an hour.
There's like five episodes of set up and half an episode of closing.
And the set up is all like, you're way more on the edge of your seat for the set up than
you are for the closing moments.
Because, again, you're expecting the horror.
Well, the mystery is always more interesting than the reveal.
Yes, exactly.
And there's the one moment of what the fuck was that about that happens in that finale
that I was really, I'm glad they chose to show you that.
Because it's probably one of the most interesting things about any of the characters in the
show.
Is that weird moment of, this doesn't look real?
Yeah.
If you go back, there's more of those than you probably thought.
Oh, I did.
And I did find them.
Yeah.
And then I went back to go to find all the hidden things that you didn't pay attention to.
Oh my God, it's late.
The birds are the best ones.
The birds is fantastic.
And just the names of some of the people that work in different buildings as well are clues
towards them.
Yeah, good stuff.
So, goddamn, that's a fucking solid show.
Going on on a limb recommending True Detective is a good show, says Willie.
Like, the second season.
Controversial statements.
Right.
The second season has none of that.
Like, there's no going back.
It's just dry cop who got it.
As far as I know, I watched two episodes and I was like, this seems alright, but I didn't
continue it.
And then as the season rolled on, I see people going, and I remember, I told you a few podcasts
ago, there's this article that says True Detective season two.
What went wrong?
Who to blame?
Right.
Like, it was vile.
And it's, here's who to blame.
Fukunaga wasn't there.
Done.
Okay.
I need to give special shout outs to the video on the Yellow King theory, which discusses
one of the, you know, believable things, putting things together, is if you go back
and look at the footage, you can see a man in a Yellow King outfit standing right here
in the background.
I said that.
With the crown and scepter.
He's probably the Yellow King.
I forgot what exactly that was, but I think that video went up, like, simultaneous to
the final episode airing.
So people were just running to accept, oh, just tell me what it is.
There were clips from the final episode in that.
And like, the best.
Here at the police station.
There's a man in a Yellow King outfit.
Just walking in the background.
In the background.
Could this man be the Yellow King?
And, of course, what the fuck did I do?
Alright, let's get into it.
Alright, so Street Fighter 5 Beta.
That was all week, every week.
I want to get, I didn't get a chance to play it when this happened, but I want to give
big ups to whoever at Capcom decided to hit the switch last day.
Turn on every character.
All the warriors, except Geeth and Laura.
Fair.
All the warriors.
They're probably not finished.
That beta was a ride.
And what a crazy roller coaster of emotions.
It was really fun.
And like, when I was done, when I had my session and then I stopped for a bit,
you then jump on the streams and see what people are twitching.
So I think the best part of that beta was the weird expectations going in.
Because I went in.
It's like, well, this beta has to be better than the last beta, right?
Because if it's not, right?
It went up like a day early for most of the day.
But you couldn't get any matches.
And I was like, that's fine, right?
You know, it's up early.
This is the pre-test.
And then it went up.
Still couldn't get any matches that very first day.
And I was like, oh.
The early day.
I played, no, no, the first day proper.
Zero matches.
And I was like, oh, that's weird.
Maybe it's my NAT settings.
I played training mode and everybody was available.
Go check out Max's stream.
And Max basically has his feet up.
And he's like, yeah, so talk to somebody at Capcom.
And this is as good as it's going to get.
Maybe one match every four hours.
And before that had happened, I told you I saw an article in Destructoid where Destructoid
pulled something from a Capcom place.
It's not going to get any better than that.
Yeah, it's like, well, something's bad.
And this is what you're going to get the whole weekend.
I was like, oh, boy, that's disappointing.
So I got on that day one night and I was having a match every 10 minutes or so.
That's lucky.
That's freakish.
Nobody else was having that experience.
It wasn't that bad for me.
And then I woke up on the second day and all of a sudden it's like, they fixed it.
It's totally fine.
Getting constant matches.
So it was the reveal of the SFV server Twitter was where you wanted to be all weekend.
It's always that way.
You want to be refreshing that to see what they're saying and what's going on.
Where the poor's the party at.
Party over here.
So, yeah.
And then the also the cool reveal where you can plug in a second controller to do playbook
training mode with a partner.
And bullshit, bullshit.
Put the light bars on and actually have a little weird versus mode.
Exactly.
Weird versus mode.
So, Pat, expectations and results.
Okay.
On what particular aspect?
Do you want to go categories here?
Just general.
I'm going general and then I'm going to get into characters.
Gains good.
Shocker.
Gains super good.
Karen's buttons feel broken in their goodness.
We were talking about this.
Her standing medium kick is probably the best medium kick ever.
When you say like, oh, a character has an answer to everything.
Like I tweeted out, her buttons have the answer to life, the universe and everything.
It's the best.
She has nothing but answers.
Like her fucking normals are so good.
Her feature is not that great.
Her eight box is accurate to her model.
Yeah.
What it seems to be.
Her bad normals and good normals is like Nakali, his jab.
The fist part of his jab goes through the opponent.
It's the worst.
Yeah.
Armika, it's taken me a lot of time to get used to the fact that throws are not instant
in this game.
So, hold on.
Before getting into character specifics, like I'm talking system generally.
Oh, okay.
A lot of that stuff.
Netcode is already better than fours.
Right.
Clearly.
Yes.
And you know they're using rollback because when I'm playing a bad match from Australia,
boy, oh boy, that's a teleporting cast.
So, rollbacks are hilarious in that they're the way to go.
Liam or Matt, did you guys get any time in?
I opted not to play it.
Oh, really?
I was playing other stuff.
Okay.
So, there was just to figure out.
Yeah, no.
Just like.
Like, when beta is like, I could have gotten into the Doom multiplayer beta, but I'm like,
because I bought Wolfenstein, but I was like, I'll play it when it comes out.
That's how I feel about Doom.
It's demo, a demo is where I'll try to get in, but like a beta, I'm just like, I don't
know.
No, that's fine.
I needed it in my blood, so.
I just wanted to finish other stuff.
I really wanted to.
I needed to get hands on time with Karen.
So, yeah, the system changes.
Absolutely.
It's fun.
It's solid.
Definitely not anywhere near as slow as when you're looking at that first footage
and worrying about what it's going to be.
No, it's faster.
It's definitely faster.
The one thing, though, is I got to say, like Desk is on point.
He put out a video.
That video's the best.
And it's so fucking true.
How do combos in SF5?
How to do combo.
Yeah.
And basically, he does a combo, and then he does the masher version, where you just
do the same thing, except you input every button eight times, and it works just as
quickly.
And then he does the palm wiggle variant.
One hand.
One hand.
Upside down.
Using a geef action finger to press the button.
Using a toy.
So, links are totally, totally easy.
There's only one input in the whole data that I had trouble with doing consistently, and
that was Karen's instance.
Just frame, just frame upper.
So the just frame, and the thing is, here's why.
Because it's tech and style, where if you're doing, Karen can do a stronger version of
her dashing upper, that if you plink it, it works instantly raw, right, from neutral.
But if you do it in a combo, you can't plink.
You have to actually do it, and then pause, and then do the thing for like pause, quote
unquote.
It's hard.
I had a really hard time doing it consistently.
It's just different timing, but you can learn it if you learn the two different timings
you need.
I guess.
In any case.
That might be why it was screwing me up.
So, but the idea of like, oh, did I hit confirm, yes, the rest of this combo is guaranteed.
So like, I'm not good at link execution.
I'm just not good at it.
I've never been good at it in any game.
So like videos are coming out of like, yo, here's a here's a reset combo with Mika with
using your V trigger that does 100% stun.
Is that that very first video that came out with the crossover?
And I looked at that's like, that does look too complicated.
But like, you know, you got to hit your links, like got in five minutes.
It was so easy.
Thanks are really easy.
They're so cool.
Well, I remember there are hacks asking, asking combo fiend had a combo specific things.
He said, I'll just do this, this, this, and I went in and it took me two tries, like,
because it's not the fact that they, that it's, there's nothing at one frame links
is only this to only two and above, but it's the fact that there's, there's tons of room.
There's a link, but there's a link buffer system that lets you go one above or one below
the frames you need to be on the one, everything in de facto becomes three.
The moment that I knew was when a guy jumped in on me with Karen and did the cross up and
then a low medium punch into a standing medium punch into her, her kicks.
And I had never seen that.
And I had not thought of that in training because I'd only been using her low medium
kit.
And I was like, Oh, that seems really useful.
That combos and I can do stuff.
And I did it on my first jump in in a match after seeing it once.
So there's an emphasis never have that has that ever happened and there's an emphasis
on making things have more frames in general in this game.
Throws are all really long and slow.
It hurts me.
Right.
You, you, you have your five frame throws coming out and things like that.
And you have command throws that are like eight.
The command throws are eight frames long.
You're not landing that on anybody in the middle of an exchange.
You are pulling that out as like you got in their head and they were panicking and not
pressing buttons.
I need to switch my mentality from street fighter classic throws where a throw will
just eat your normals to a virtual fighter throw in which a strike will be, well, well,
it's not nothing.
Normal's beat throws.
They're supposed to.
That's the rock, paper, scissor.
No, shut up.
Yeah.
That's the same thing to pat the other day.
That's the rock, paper, scissors.
That's how that match.
I want to super dolls.
But special characters will have invincible throws, ables, EX, buttery, you know, like
they give stuff.
Exactly.
There's certain characters that have the ability to just power through it.
And in this game, they've completely removed that so far.
It looks like.
Maybe.
With the beta, at least, it's characters.
We'll have to have something a little more than Mika because he'll be an ultra-raveller.
But Mika cannot power through normals with third throws at all.
And in general, in this.
Which is why she has good normals.
Which is why she has really, really good normals.
Invincibility is scarce as fuck in the game in general.
No more invincible.
It feels like king of fighters sometimes.
No more when you're getting jabbed out of things.
Yeah.
No more invincible back dash.
And like usually in four and in third strike, you think of someone flashing yellow and then
that just blowing through anything.
And in this case, no, you flash yellow and then get hit out of it constantly.
The only thing I would add is like it appears to be relatively common.
Not complaint, but no observation.
Jabs are really good.
It depends on who's jab.
Like Kami's jab.
It depends on who's jab.
But yeah.
Jabs are meant to be.
Have you played cross-tackin?
Kami's jab is the best.
Now the thing is that a lot of the time, because you know, people often have one cancelable
normal or so, and then they have like a really good frame advantage light attack.
With the jabs, jabs are really good.
Standing jabs are often better than crouching jabs, which is like.
That's crazy.
But it's because you're taking a bit more risk.
Yeah.
It makes more sense.
It should be like that.
So it's like in terms of the history of fighting, like that's super nuts.
And yeah, all in all, you know, as far as characters go, like I looked in, I stopped
him and I'm like, okay, Nikali's probably where I'm going to end up.
Really?
Still?
Because you said that like day one, and I was like, fuck you, you liar.
I did.
Day one, I said, day one, I said Bison.
No, no, no, day one of this.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Because like, I was like, fuck you, Karen's not available yet.
The instant Karen in that box, you're going to go to her.
Yeah.
I did.
And no, I'm still going to probably stick with Nikali.
Because like all the dumb fucking, oh, well, he picks the last box, jokes aside, I honestly
always pick a guy who I think looks cool.
He looks really cool.
And then whether they're good or they suck is up to fate, you know?
So some games roll the dice in the right where it's like CVS 2, I get Cammie, Blanka, and
Sagaht.
And it's like, oops, whoops, it turns out that's the fucking team.
And in other games, it doesn't happen.
Well, now it's unclear about who the final boss is because of that dinner fight.
Now we'll talk about that in a minute.
Yeah, we'll talk about that in a minute too.
Absolutely.
That'll be our first news story.
Yeah.
The final boss.
I just, you know what I mean?
And in other times, you get like a Kotal Kron or a Blanka when you're headed for the middle.
I feel like we've said this in two separate points throughout this conversation, but I
feel like it bears mentioning the Link leniency and the very good, even at this early stage
netcode, I never felt scared of dropping my combos online, not once.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Like it works.
They're doing it.
They have a little bit to go, but they're doing it.
The combos, considering it's not out till spring.
Like the progress, they're like 90% there.
The combos I've dropped have been the combos I've gotten rolled back out of.
Yeah.
Okay.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Cause they can see so bad that they weren't even on the ground.
Yes.
And bad rollback fights are unlike bad old netcode lag fights, bad rollback fights are
unplayable.
They're magic.
Yeah.
Because there's two fights happening.
And the best bad rollback moment is playing third strike and seeing like Ryu do a goddamn
hard shoryuken and then you jump and he's on the ground because he never left the ground.
Yeah.
Or doing a combo and then you get a drop in the middle of the combo, but while you were
beating the guy up, he was Ken and mashing fierce DP.
So you get eaten.
And I changed my mind to the new, it's in third strike online edition is when you're
playing footsies and you'll throw out like a Elena's like medium kick and you'll win.
And no you didn't!
And it'll roll back that final footsie hit and you'll just break, you'll go, what, what?
So the thing with the Kali is, and I called it on the trailer by the way, so I see a body
projectile, an uppercut, a command grab and a dive kick and it's like these are the tools
you give somebody who you don't intend to give any buttons to.
And his normals are all shit.
Are there any good ones?
Yes.
Low-medium kick is okay.
They're not all shit, but they're all shit in a casual set.
Like you can use his standing hard kick to crush counter and you get some fat fucking
business kicks on people and it feels good.
That's a good one.
And when you get it in the air they do like a little floating spin which lets you go into
whatever you want.
I think the Kali's like standing punches are the worst I've ever seen in a Street Fighter.
They're the stubbiest little T-Rex swings and imagine if the T-Rex's claws don't have
a hitbox.
Don't even have a hitbox on them, yeah.
So you can see him going into his rage mode and like he swings his jab out and there's
all this magic energy on the end of his jab that does nothing.
That's great.
It's a fucking joke, right?
And so like it took all weekend for me to figure out what's the game plan.
How?
You just jump in all the time.
And like I figured it out after like okay I was playing for a while, struggling, watching
some streams and then I was watching footage of Aliyun, God bless fucking Aliyun.
That's great.
The best.
This fucking champ.
He's number, he's got to number, he's number one.
Yeah.
Oh really?
Really?
He took ranking spots to him.
Wow congrats to him.
Number one.
That's sick.
Like 56 points.
Hold on.
I want to point that out as a special consideration that is great.
The ranking system in this game is great.
It's fantastic.
It just tells you this is your ranking.
I got to 8,900.
That's good.
Yeah.
It tells you where you are, what your number is, and then you have another level which
is like experience, which is like how many battles you fought and like and it's so interesting
because like there are clearly two different things that are like.
One thing is just like yeah, how much you've played and the other is how good you are and
you'll see somebody and go like oh shit level 32 and then you get into the fight and he's
like rank 5 digits.
25,000.
And you're just like oh my god.
You've been grinding it out.
But like it had the effect that like because VP was always super confusing to me.
It was.
But now it's like what is my ranking?
What is that person's ranking?
Yeah.
Ro.
The two numbers they have are literally the ones you want the most.
And then the leak points determines where you fall on the ranking list basically.
So thankfully.
I just want to point that out because it's so good.
Yes.
Thankfully I like spent most of my time in the comfortable 1,000 to 2,000 range.
Oh really?
You got way way farther up there than me at the whole time.
In the Gonzo sphere?
The Gonzo sphere.
What is that even?
Where you're stuck playing Hanzo Gonzo only.
Oh yeah that was day one.
Day one.
Me and Hanzo Gonzo just had endless back-to-back matches and there was no one else I could
get into a fight with.
Maybe that's why I was getting into those fights pretty quickly.
Yeah.
You too just happened to gel.
We were on the same.
Yeah.
Crazy.
So that ranking.
Of all people to get matched with.
The same shard.
That's great.
That ranking system will improve dramatically with one more piece of information and that's
total players.
Yes.
Of course yeah.
When you see like you know I say I got to like 9,000.
That's not great.
That's not bad.
But if I'm 9,000 of 280,000.
Yeah.
Yeah exactly.
Exactly.
Yeah.
No now Max on Max got in under a thousand so like get on him for that as well.
But no watching that footage of Aliyun and seeing how he dealt with how he used the
Cali and how you figure this match out.
Is he maning the Cali?
It looks like he's maning the Cali right now until we don't know.
For the beta.
Of course yeah.
You know Hanzo Gonzo is playing him as well and yeah you just understand oh your buttons
are shit therefore you will lose at footsies almost all the time therefore don't play footsies
with the Cali.
It makes sense.
Yeah.
It's straight up like you don't even engage.
You jump in do a couple hits jump out not jump sorry dash in dash out and you're spending
most of the game at mid range where you're going to DP any jumps they do and dash through
any fireballs.
Right yeah his dash just beats fireballs.
And if it's a character without those then you're looking to crush a critical a crush
counter hit you know and that's how you get your wins in and like before adopting that
strategy I was like my win rate was like I don't know I guess I'd win four out of five
games or so and then putting that into place took me through the rest of the game no problem.
Mika is terrifying.
Super scary.
She's so good.
And in her face if you treat her like a grappler and she is and you back out the only thing
she has is her drop kick at a certain point and she becomes way less scary but if you
decide to try and take her head on don't you're probably going to fucking don't don't play
Mika's game because she wants you there.
Yeah and when you get cornered by her that's your dad.
The whole match is a work.
Like this game the damage it's it feels like super turbo like it's the scariest core game
I've ever played because you're in the corner you're dead.
So Geith is a grappler that excels like with you close to him on the stage on the field
and Hugo wanted you in the corner Mika gets both of these things and Nadeshko for the
mix up is or extra combos or like any number of things Nadeshko is like you only get one
around you get one but it's super good and you make it work you can use it to make it
yourself sit.
I was watching I forget who it was but guy would like here's all the cool shit you can
do with V trigger and it's the it's the hit confirm button for shit noobs because like
you you you throw out a punch and cancel it and you intend to be a great did you hit yes
do anything you want did you not back dash and and there are also people are using it
like they used OK so in SF for they gave to God angry scar after super yeah and what it
lets him do is is he uses two bars of meter to get a stronger Tiger uppercut the main
advantage of using it wasn't the stronger Tiger uppercut it was pausing the game temporarily
to see what you're doing and reacting to it yeah so people are popping V trigger when
you're in the air just to get a cleaner uppercut on and the other thing is like Nikali in
particular is V trigger is amazing because you can hide his charge in it yes sending
with bison as well so someone on Twitter was like yeah I was talking about that's like
on Nikali V triggers underwhelming compared to everyone else's and it's like as like
aesthetically he's got the cool hair and his but in his improvements it's like yeah
it gives him very subtle not obvious improvements he's it forever but he keeps it forever and
it gives him and it gives me a let's it lets it you let's you combo off of jab he let's
use meter game right no he only thing he loses is his ability to do our alpha counter
oh only yes I thought I thought his meter game was hamper that's that must have been how
it was when we played it maybe but they must change it right now he just that's the only
disadvantage okay yeah and yeah and so like so once you get his game plan in I'm like
alright I felt comfortable that was all good because they're Rashid is the most slept on
character I've ever seen in the first I played as Rashid crazy I played as Rashid for a couple
matches and immediately like there were moments I'm like I look at the screen I look down
my sticks like I don't know what I am doing what I am doing and then I fought a couple
Rashid's that were just doing little whirlwinds and being shitty and then I fought one guy
and he's whooped me harder than anyone else in the beta I couldn't like I felt like a
Naruto character were like I can't see him where is he on the screen is the most like
you grab him and you don't know what you're doing so you just go I'm now fuck it but
if you put in work it is unbelievable is it like a con or like really good a con like
it's like a con player tornado is better than a goose reflector it goes the whole screen
and it stays there and it's just like you're not jumping and it also lets him get a cross
up from the wrong corner yeah um so so I tweeted out like a just a ridiculous re-dizzy combo
that he has and shit where you throw out not even the normal tornado throw that out cancel
it into his v skill roll jump neutral and end up crossing up the guy right in front of
his face for no reason and the fact that he's got two wall jumps they didn't you didn't
this wasn't obvious go back to four he's got he's got the jump that's a normal wall jump
that every other fighting game character has then he has the one where he jumps off the
wall and dive kicks at you and that crosses you up if you're yeah like yeah fucking crazy
bonkers you can't you can't read this guy I still think the scariest character by far
was vega vega is no longer roll still busted no they're all unsafe oh all you can jab at
the end of all of okay because the way it was when me and pat played a packs even the
heavy I got a punch for the block string on him yeah it was not it was unbeatable but
he's terrifying like the good players that I was seeing and I was watching flows tutorial
video with him like I was watching flows stream it's funny because these the tutorial videos
are up there and getting posted but that's stream started with guys how do I gain V skill
sure how do I get me hours later like here's all the cool stuff what is this dude yeah like
just it's just hit using the claw change to hit confirm into goofy stuff video those just
called terrifying vega yeah it's crazy vega vega is he seems scarier than he is but right
now with the nerfs and stuff that you know I've dropped him down you can fight back against
him that's good but you just have to you have to spend a lot of time not pressing but he
is easily the best he has ever been that much as maybe maybe ST unless you are the versions
where he can wall where you can climb the fence or whatever from the world warrior shit you
know but yeah I know that that's and everyone else is as they were that's a good ass beta
and it's kind of sad that's like on and now we're done until next year until the games
out you know because you see feel like you're starting to learn a couple of matches like
on day minus 180 so this isn't cabcom's fault right this is just the way games get made
yeah but the way we live now and the way games come out and the way you play games like and
I've seen other people echo this and they're wrong but I can understand why they would
think this like it would have felt totally natural for this beta to not have ended and
then like we're going to keep working on the game add characters until the games released
in February or whatever like this felt like early access like shot at it and then I then
there's the like I wasn't playing the last day because I was like I'll just play next
week like I actually hit my mom yeah yeah yeah yeah because it like it will rise in
thunder rise in thunder spring last month breaking news unfinished game feels like early access
game yeah no no that's not what I mean they don't mean in terms of polish no that's what
you said in terms of accessibility mentally I feel like as as fucking hype as I got when
they unveiled the original roster from beta one it was almost like a mistake because it's
like oh fuck it just got real mm-hmm when I go to the character select screen and there's
eight choices that's too many I'm like this girl girl this feels real now you could release
this game I'm not exactly at my head stops going from all beta to like no I'm playing
it so now it's gone five is out yeah and now it's not anymore that's what happened they
took it away it was out for one day people are people are working on hacking the PC version
so apparently so give it give it a minute and you'll be able to download a version of
it next week did you where you can just play versus did you guys see the that that modded
video of a guy doing all the supers in training mode from a from a default far away camera
with no camera shifts oh no I'm getting to see what all the that's always cool and
four and three for five of them your kids Dudley's teleporting all over the place they're
all the best the best is Charlie sorry Nash same thing where like the instant he hits a
super this giant black cube shows up in the middle of the screen yeah because they don't
actually dark in the whole darkness they just put a dark cube and and shut up you shout
out to everybody who undermines our knowledge of TMS plot guide yeah because we're talking
about Cody's rocks and yeah I want to like how nerdy are you guys like dudes I wanted
to retweet max about this but I knew it would get buried so I figured I'd like throw it
out here because we were talking about like somebody asked me and maybe you was in the
same tweet like so who's strong who's you always talk about Charlie and Cody is being
like weirdo freaks like which one's stronger and mean you had some difference of opinions
is like I think Cody's better but you're right because Charlie tries Charlie would totally
win it's not my opinion and I'm quoting the guy I'm quoting if Cody tried he would be
number one and the example that I used is Cody picks up a pile of dirt and rocks and
just tosses it and makes it a real red and it beats fireballs and sonic booms and exactly
that's crazy Cody's power potential is unrivaled and the reason he doesn't give a reason I want
to call Max is that he's like he just he just comes in on that change man I always hated
that Cody's up there with like gods and demons that's done like screw you like yeah I was
at that what did he go to jail on purpose yes yes he did he can break out whatever we
fall on opposite ends of the spectrum man like he has a wind pose where he takes the handcuffs
softs rotate his wrists and put them back on remember Max Cody was deaf I had somebody
tweet at me and it was this idea that is so amazing and I'm so in love with it that I
need to put it back out there and it's one of Cody comes in SF5 it's definitely a possibility
in the future and his V trigger is just he takes the cuffs on and keeps all of his normals
exactly the same without handcuffs but all the handcuffs just come off and there's no
bam there's no click if he should be out of prison by then he has an animation where
he puts it back on and it leaves him vulnerable that's awesome like that's so good no no he
has an animation where he puts it back on but he has full super armor yeah it's all great
life and then he looks up at you as what like Cody's get your hits and get your hits and
what Cody is the shit the final five characters are crazy they're all guy in hangar and I need
crazier than anybody guy is like right below the mutants and demons are you bush in Ryu
is the street fighter equivalent of the sith there can only be to a master and a student
and you've got to kill your master what I mean is that there's no lore behind Cody or behind
a guy or a hangar that make them anything really special Cody's the only one that has it
bush in Ryu is supposed to be able to defeat Psycho power but there's not been any sort
of well it's like bush in Ryu practitioners are revered as gods amongst the street fighter
the ninja clans like geckies are shit tier the bookies clan is like normal and then the
the guy ninjas are the fucking serious shit yeah because there's only two and hangar was
the mayor you well yeah that'll make him he's suplexed a shark exactly because remember
in the fucking udon comics Ryu needs to tap into the darkest recesses of satsunohado
to even beat Cody and Cody's not even looking at him when that happens it's the same way
he beats sagat yeah yeah it's exactly cheating Ryu's cheater Ryu the cheater Ryu from day
one yeah Ryu has cheated to win two of his biggest fights ever no three all three first
one the sagat yeah Cody and the end of street fighter two fight against bison he cheats by
having a kuma murder bison for you never replaced him with mr. that's crazy I guess sagat was
giving him a helping hand and Ryu took that sure you like what I learned when I learned
that sagat's character is so much better because like I was a good guy well he wasn't a good
guy but he was an honorable fighter and I respected your fight you know like he killed
Dan's dad but he did it honorably yeah he didn't go out and murdered him and he challenged
him and he fought to the death but like after that sick disfiguring sucker punch he's like
okay wow yeah fuck this yeah gonna go genocide some tigers and it's especially it that so
that's like idea and like plot type of thing get better if you know like vagabond in a way
because though a lot of vagabond struggle is like honor in fighting and is there a point to it
versus scrap dirty poke him in the eyes and shit on his feet also in the comic when I got
learned stuff from Dalsim and he's like Ryu I can destroy you super easily no problem that would
not be fair you need to learn shit from this crazy man I can beat you I always really liked
the Udon comics taking Dalsim and elevating him all the way to the top with the other God
characters he doesn't try either he's part of Dalsim is possibly depending your interpretation
like above everyone else because Bison's up there and Bison's afraid of Dalsim yeah yeah
he's because he's mentally it's people who are mental strength or have extra combat ability
imagine if Dalsim waves goodbye to her little baby here Ryu and he's like bye I guess I guess
you learned okay and then you just hear like like a scuffling walk up and he looks up and Cody's
there to learn from Dalsim shut the book down shut the book down it's over and Dalsim's like no
man get out yeah like you see what do you mean you have handcuffs on take them up no Dalsim's
like what you can do what with rocks I can't do that with rocks Cody and Cody and Marvel versus
Capcom Galactus shows up it's Galactus turns around and walks off his face
Galactus wants nothing to do with it
no that human has a knife now
get the fuck out of here
yeah it's like okay maybe I can take him Cody picks up the knife walk fuck this
you saved the earth
exactly
Thanos has the infinity gaula and he sees Cody pick up the knife he's like oh I don't
mmm that knife is though
mmm it's it's range is so good
sure sure I have the power of reality but this dude's got he's too real like I'm just
waiting for like the eventual like breakdown of like actually the deal with Cody is that
he has time powers yeah because his his stop his turn around stop combo is impossible in
reality yeah he doesn't anyway yes we all the turn 180 degrees and and like his jabs
don't actually retract mm-hmm so like what is Cody was the mouth Cody's actually traveling
through time while he's beating your ass after every hit connect he just time so there's
no cool down
okay time travels back to halfway through the punch and throws it again this is my design
so we've got that's where that leads us into the data mining and everyone data mining people
have pulled all kinds of crazy shit out of the Street Fighter 5 PC build and my net shit
though this is less data mining and more just looking at file names and opening it and opening
it up in notepad data minus notepad the greatest hacker of our time so this story has been
updating like 10 times since on the way over here it got changed twice yeah so because
so people people were forgot about the naming conventions of people are correcting Balrog
bison so by the time you guys hear this tomorrow if you listen to the podcast as soon as it
goes up it may be different but this is what we got as of now we'll be hit us there's F
A N is the letters in the name of a new character yeah T U T is also the letters in the name
of a new character DSM is applying Dalsum is going to show up yeah and these these are
entries in the games story illustration folder yes that would that means that these characters
will have some kind of story mode place in a larger story mode like a like a you know
Tekken has its endings and the trousers like that I haven't looked at it since it's been
updated but has there been a T O M no damn no T O M these are very very likely yeah to
be playable characters or in the initial release or at least one of them might be a boss that's
in the story mode and again this is incorrectly bolding out BLR for Balrog not noticing that
is Japanese because Vega isn't there and Vega is Japanese bison yeah and bison is Japanese
like one of the new datamined things so therefore Balrog is Vega no Vega is there but
I mean I mean as bison he is as dictator he is so the files look the files have Vega and Balrog
and both of those characters whichever versions of their name like Vega is in the game and other
Vegas in the game and Balrog is in the game it's very confusing other Balrog is not but
but sir but bison is not listed boxers Mike bison the boxing guy my fight money is not on this
list yes which is a bummer to me because he's the only he's within so there are more lines of
code that are remaking reference to character models for Yuri in and Alex good Alex we saw
there's more and jury and the boogie but the poly count on them and the desk go as well the
poly count on them is high enough 80 to 100,000 triangles to match the normal characters like
fight which Alex in the background is not that well also these characters don't just have an
incredibly high poly counts that blow the background characters out of water they also have full bone
rigging which the background characters I don't even know that you don't even have and like I think
Tut has like 300 and something bones or something which is yeah way more than anything normal so
it's possible that it's like a monster freak or or a training dummy yeah training dummy but like
these characters don't have story mode things but they might be models that are in the story mode
or they might be DLC characters or they might be both season one yeah I think we're looking at season
one also of course Zen nowhere to be found on that list I think the Zen I think was fan or
Nikali yeah exactly I think it's one of those could be Zen would be a weird name to give Nikali
but like it's the opposite I need to chill out starting to lean towards Tut being a tutorial
character I think so yeah I think so and it's tall yeah there it is no I'd be fine with that
never get tall at least they'll be in yeah at least they'll be in they're treading thin ground
without a license license rights for fucking Javan oh if they put Tom in there like forgot about
they got Karen and they've never yeah all of their like panicky lawsuit moves have never
actually resulted in yeah they're just doing it out of good panicky lawsuit moves then I guess
but yeah we're probably looking at this that's a good that's a good series of picks for season
one Alex you're in Jureen Ibuki that's good those are the people like those characters I like them
too do people like Ibuki I hear she's pretty popular I like her in the comics I don't like Ibuki
but I know that people do like everyone everyone likes Ibuki no one likes playing no one likes
playing as Ibuki but everyone likes Ibuki but I want her casual street clothes that'll be
you can buy for sure for sure high school regular high school girl like regular high school
Eleanor is like I'm excited to see Jerry with a new costume give her old costume give the job
like Yuri like it out like after seeing Rashid and getting bodied by Rashid you can just put
Yuri in you can you don't have to change Aegis reflector here's what I want you can just do it
I want Yuri in but he keeps the suit on the suit pants well really V triggers when the suit
comes off he gets naked for the V trigger like of course I like that pitiful scum no like his
torso should be bare but like the suit pants with the belt I think no no you should have a suit
briefcase reflector comes out he's the joke character of the game business
Yuri and glasses and like hunches over if he does have a suit it should be more open suit
like not like not really all right and Liam's right if he does have a full suit then the V
trigger should burst that thing right on suit with suit but it's not buttoned up with the shirt
and the tie open well welcome to fashion that would be much better that'd be cool no I want
I want to dress up perfectly like you should be like is I like if I like him with the suit
on better than the shirt off like if he's in a full suit then something needs to burst that
shit off yeah yeah like this dick like if he's not in a full suit then it's fine he can stay
like that first through his pants the old days of like crush I don't think anyone will be sad
but a hint of hammock is gone because the reason I would the reason for Gill and Seth all looking
the way they do is because owner was always talking about how he wants the last boss to
look like an Adonis like a fighter you mean like McCauley exactly and you know what you've done
it we've had naked man boss for a while now so we can go somewhere else I'm done with naked
man boss I kind of like the naked man boss we've had four of them I know we're gonna like them
would you rather Ingrid no I wish one of the leakers would have faked it and put Ingrid in
oh god that's where I have to go verify the files by self yeah I turn into a data miner okay how do
I do this just start deleting yeah no here's the problem they said anyone anyone willing to do that
would have put Ingrid and then they would have not been able to help themselves and they would
put skullomania in it and then you would have looked at and gone yeah that's bullshit well
skullomania is gonna mean oh don't combo fiend told us in person we spoke to combo fiend and one
of the first questions we asked like so when skullomania we know he's coming and he laughs and
he's like I'm like no really when and he's like yeah I know they paid for Karen to get back in
they're not gonna pay for more Erika who knows it would be cheaper to hire the mob to kill Erika I
think I think if you buy Erika dinner he'll probably like be open to the we can't get
skullomania can we get can we get movement rider in there yeah yeah buy him dinner in a show and
you got all the rights to all those characters no give it give him the fucking Irish Shoto got
Alan Alan's Alan Schneider promised them you'll make fighting later too and then don't how about
that um lost even me on fighting layer is the fighting game with just the ex characters in it
that didn't that was a thing which we're playing next week I think right or it wasn't a thing what
was the 3ds one that was fighting I don't know I thought that was a sad Jesus Christ I'll go
fighting layer is confusing it's a lot of things it's nothing I don't know for sure but I think I
believe that was their game that was going to be all the yeah this conversation isn't even worth it
why did I start it yeah you know what is worth it no fighting yeah exactly they did a tech demo
for 3ds as well yeah what is worth of willy what is worth it is bread and fucking Williams is
becoming a wrestler finally the thing he was always born to be sired if you will right to the
wrestling universe probably listening to this podcast near steps away from me finally catching up
and getting an NFL position he leaves to go further into no that's like that fucking shit gag is the
gag is I'm always chasing behind Brennan because he's a he's a professional football player doing
it all in real life like a lot of binoculars to look up the mountain but it was only a cardboard
standee and there was and he was up there doing the Randy Orton pose the legend fucking shit
where you guys you assholes are like oh man guitar hero one so awesome oh man guitar hero two so
awesome and I'm like maybe I'll get into this guitar hero stuff and I buy guitar hero three and
then you go you guys you fucking guitar hero it's a fucking worth rock man and I'm going to America
by rock man what are you doing this idiot he bugged the target yeah never forgave you so my
favorite part my favorite part about the story is the part where the same week that this got
announced a couple days earlier it was an asset he was he was signed to the Patriots training camp
yeah and that you had like a lot of people were like yeah great black doing that yes that's correct
and great black come back it's gonna happen we're gonna do it and then Brennan just like nah fuck
that I'm gonna I'm joining Booker T's wrestling camp we're doing it real we're doing it right and
if you are listening all the best to you I hope you do well in your endeavors I hope you don't get
pigeonholed into a football theme you can do if that if that happened in wrestling everyone would
be football man yeah we're just putting it out there time power time power you know you'll whisper
his ear have you heard of the concept of stands just see where it's going and he knows more than
he does yeah this fucker knows man he besides like tweeting wrong they talk about him like oh he's
more for you's more appropriate because he's been a big fan of wrestling for years and he
likes me so I'm like yeah but y'all aren't talking about his persona LPs talking about his deep
animus shit where's that reference his amazing Russell mania and show you're not talking about
where's that fucking showing up on TMZ huh anyway I really hope that works out I couldn't cheer a
person harder if that happens and he's been asked I'm sure like like in some of the other interviews
like what's your gimmick what's your final move what's your special and stuff like that and like
I'd sound like workshop in this it's what like though I saw two years like he had he listed a
couple in some of the interviews but it looks like he's now like open to suggestions is what he
said so it could be anything because time time powers is good how can you stop the other wrestlers
in the rain that's a good power right stands also good yeah a little bit further down personas
still still in there still good still in there no you're shaman shaman also alter egos if you
want to get into a scribe that's not talking about that's not talking about the the uh fuck
I don't know alters they're called alters yeah she's a shell bullet shell bullet the altar that's
not okay okay you're starting to lose it okay ready you come to the ring you're dressed normally
but then you put on a power suit and you can only rustle in it for two minutes before you die
so you have to finish finish it this is free this is all free you're gonna get a new nemesis
gonna be the spider crab gonna get a new guy if Mexican wrestler could go a spider crab right
yeah yeah definitely anyway lots of money yeah what's ready you know what could there be a
parallel universe gimmick yes you could be there you could be the Brennan Williams from the
parallel universe and we keep swapping back and forth yeah yeah that could you might as well
just do the multiple personality gimmick at the time your bread and as a kid times better
uh how about the how about the crystal gem gimmick where I'm actually fused I'm two separate
entities that became Brennan Williams yeah but like occasionally there's moments where the ring
goes dark and then when the lights come back on there's two guys in the ring going oh no you'd
have to you'd have to be obsidian yeah yeah that's the only way all right uh speaking of places
where money is at wow we're not at we're not at there's money at wrestling there's there's money
in microtransactions this guitar hero we're getting into we're getting into payday there's two this
week there's two so I'm pretty sure the crux of the payday story seems to be what they said they'd
never do micro okay they're doing now hold on the one I in all fairness a guy who left the
company said we'll never do micro transaction and also in the opposite it does look terrible you're
right in the opposite fairness the statement that that guy who left the company made was very
unambiguous yeah no for us we will never do micro transactions and shame on you for implying
that we will yeah no shame on the company for doing it but it was a different guy like a creative
director or something he was he was high up but I don't know it was just like it was the guy who
gets in the interviews payday is a bank robbie game and now they have a free-to-play currency because
you will get safe drops and well it's like crates and keys and instead of crates and keys it's safe
some drills and that's pretty much it and that's it's as standard as you can expect the only main
differences is that the earlier statement by that was like 100% unambiguous and they put out the
ps3 version of payday 2 it was all fucked up 3 not 4 ps3 yeah okay it was all fucked up and when
asked like hey how come it's all fucked up when are you gonna fix it someone I thought that was the
Xbox one version they were talking about balance ps3 I think regardless they put out a fucked up
version yeah and when people said hey you put out fucked up version the the reply from the
development team was you should just play it on PC you fucks not sure about that last bit
that was a very loose paraphrasing but it was yeah go play they have not done well to enamor
themselves to their fan base in the recent times and they recently had an AM in the AM am I tried
it at which point they ignored every question yeah it was just marketing from what I can tell you
I was a damage control AMA that was basically like yeah we're not changing anything but this is an
AMA so you can ask me and I'll tell you that no we're not gonna change it yeah it was piece of
advice time your controversies because people are still talking about investing MB coins in the
MB Dow Jones and then taking out mutual funds on their their MB markets for their FOB yeah of
course the payday is like standard microtransaction what's your what's your mortgage at real life
games now so the I want to say we can chase has now takes MB coins where is that better than
bitcoins or worse this exchange on that they're getting better they're gonna be better in a few
months time so the payday stuff is standard microtransaction evil but that guitar here or
shit is is just it defies believe you know a guitar here oh well sorry Matt I was gonna say
really quickly it's like I'd have much more of an opinion on this payday stuff if like I didn't
try payday multiple times and just be flabbergasted at everything and how it works it's so one of
those things like try jump in the left for dead to now yeah kind of like I just whatever I started
up I'm like I oh I can't start this now you're dead the bank yeah so I've seen more cosplay
that I've seen gameplay and there's all that Halloween cool how am I any stuff I'm like I
wish I could get in there but it's just so advanced for a little baby brain it's an easy
game please like not not for me you just go in you break in and you break out please explain
this guitar so so Willie how does a guitar hero game work you play a guitar hero game you get
the game you get a bunch of songs on it and you unlock the songs as you go through and if it was
one of the later games you go to the store and you buy the game the songs want a piece no fuck
you so this game you buy it and you get you get your song list but you don't get to pick which
songs you play there's a thing in the game I believe it's called guitar hero TV or so
alive like that I believe it's the name of the game guitar hero life anyway but you go on that
and you just see what songs are on and you get to play those songs or you can pay to play what
songs you want with premium currency so they're really generous with the premium currency so
once every six songs you can pick a song but that's bullshit wait hold on hold on it's like a
rotating radio playlists okay so guitar heroes two through six and 74 songs to 93 songs well
forget the number right and anyone has 42 and micro transactions yeah okay hold on fork out
a hundred quid for the game you can't play the songs you want there's no way to permanently unlock
a song no matter how badly you want unfettered access to your favorite tunes a 10 pack of plays
will cost you oh my god that's what I'm saying how much will a 10 pack will cost you 250 and you can
buy unlimited plays for 24 hours for six bucks yeah like a karaoke holy shit so it's the worst of all
very all time so like I said they're very they're very generous with giving you the free to play
currency in game but that's still horseshit anytime you see the song playing sections songs you
might I believe a song you want to play if to spend a form of in game currency so there's a $60
game known as guitar here alive it has forty two songs on it which is less than every other
even cares I'm just going it's all only being sold a hundred dollar bundle because not the old
instruments work the selection can be found elsewhere on top of this previous controllers will
not work with the game a new controller costs 40 bucks so it's a hundred bucks to get into the
entry level there's a series a service known as guitar hero TV which is a radio station type
channel that deals songs out with purchases of the game can hop into play whenever a song is being
streamed players cannot own any song from the service and they can't select the song from the
service they can only play it when it's being streamed via the radio thing there's a karaoke
system where you rent songs to play using play tokens you earn play tokens by leveling up in
games like what do I have to take out a mortgage to play a fucking video game scoring top three on
the on the radio service or paying the tokens and you earn plays so sorry I can't play guitar here
with you I have to contact my lawyer first if 250 for 10 tokens and that lets you yeah play
in like $6 if they wanted to do this live song thing then the game should be free like just the
base game like yeah the base game this exactly like this sounds like something where the game
is 100% free and you just go buy your guitar and your instrument is like and you go I only
60 bucks the perception because you don't have it on a disc in your house would make it feel
because then it's like at least it's like you're jumping on to like a service type thing that
is like anyone can look at it and go I want to play this song and occasionally this is the free
song of the hour or whatever but this thing you pay for it's like a karaoke structure almost
holy like that's gross it's like it's one of the worst you know what this is this feels like
insurance for the inevitable we're gonna kill the rhythm game genre again on purpose before it
gets to those and crashes we're gonna milk it all out while you're having those party nights with
your friends and then not and then forget it forever I'm just glad the rhythm game game is more
alive so I guess like these games aren't taken off every time you invite friends 20 bucks 30
out of your pocket so that that meeting concludes right and then they used to be the three evil
suit men get up and walk into the next meeting room and sit down and go okay we're almost done
killing Call of Duty what's gonna replace the biggest game in the world okay people come on
you got three years to think up a new biggest game in the world before we milk this one of dirt
and then they get up and leave those people do that and then they walk over to the burning
meeting room where they're like how's the sales of Tony Hawk 5 getting 5 stars on a song in the
past required how many plays 100 right depends on depends on your on the higher on the expert
difficulty on your scale 50 I don't know like a lot a lot of plays and fucking you'll never get
good at this like even if you're buying you'll never even if you're doing the $6 every day just
to learn how to play this one song what the how much money is that in the end when you're you
shouldn't be you're playing it whatever songs on the 42 songs that it comes with can you play
those whenever you want like that's not clear it says I'm just kind of shrugged and looked in
another direction because I assume you can and that's why part of this thing so bad they only
release the game with like to half the soundtrack usually just just go by DJ max not DJ max super
beat Zonic by the DJ max guys which has heavy day from guilty gear and soon and just be yes I was
gonna say it's getting guilty gear and blaze move yeah exactly so just be happy with that um so yeah
there's the 42 songs on it are the songs that you don't have to unlock these are just play those
42 those are the 42 you can play whenever you want okay thank god for that and then it's everything
and again that's half of so yeah it's half of this that's the guitar hero to yeah so so if the DLC
thing didn't exist at all this would be half as good of a value as guitar hero to in the first place
and with the DLC stuff it's the worst value ever if the game was free this would be gross but
acceptable it would be acceptable I'll go buy a $70 guitar and you can but the inability with the
inability to buy a song the fact that you rent songs oh the inability you still have to rent a song
yeah like you don't get to the song and finish it in the free bit and then it says do you want to
play again or yet buy the song permanently for $2 you can't play again yeah you know it should play
again wow all right I'm yeah so there's that time your controversy payday team just just just make
sure that the activision's doing something so that you're bad babe you're blown out by their bad
baby fair really does one way way worse than the other so there's the big story that is going
around is Red Flies Darth Maul game might live again yeah we were just talking about this not too
long ago the footage of that game back in the day like what five years ago it looked awesome pretty
good all right I wasn't even done it was just a prototype no I always thought I always thought
we'll say no wooly slightly sweats cuz it's fucking shirtless Darth Maul right and like when you
look at the footage of it and the fact that they're like they didn't give us a story they just said
it's about Darth Maul so we started making our own story up yeah and they started coming up with
some cool shit it was like yeah that's cool man and like they want to they want to polish this up
to show it to EA to give like drum up some interest and they're I can think the quote says we're
confident we have something that's real that's gonna wow them yeah the and I looking at the
concept art for some of the other Darth's that were gonna be in the game like they had some
talent in there on the poster I saw I saw Talon with that yeah the timeline doesn't make a ton
of sense doesn't matter you know that art for talent it looks really good right yeah you know why
why because they fucking stole it oh shit that's a figure that was released of Talon yeah oh shit
and they took a picture of it and they flipped it and they photoshopped it a little bit but that
is just stolen that's awesome really like nasty shit I guess it's I like redfly but don't don't
do that oh man I guess it's like to be fair it's like it's a pitch for no exactly like that art
that art would have gone any further it would have been a huge one yeah it's got all these it's
got it's got Darth Cron and Darth Crate and what's his brother's name again I don't know
savage oppressed there you go the yellow guy so super cool I really hope that the yellow guy
when is Darth Ghostface killer Darth Darth Redmond Darth method Darth Jay-Z but I really hope
something comes of that even if it's a little downloadable super little action game I hope they
do it I like redfly but none of their games have been like actually great they've all been
always thought the first mushroom man game is mushroom is the best game and it's and it's good
so yeah I mean like there's a certain level of like you know tingling my pants just seeing Darth
Maul running around yeah of course and they said it's not like a force unleashed kind of combat
systems are gonna go with but from where I could see of it and like it looked all right it didn't
like it was like it was gonna cool enough that you're like I'm in a weird place with this
because every game is always gonna be like the shadow Jedi outcast yeah and you're like play
Rogue Squadron that's it well keep saying that is so good do you have the sickest lightsaber
fights known to the existence of no but the tutorial is to blow up the Death Star out being
on foot with a lightsaber is always cooler than being in a ship all but you didn't play
I played a bit of it's the experience and then you go do the run in the second Death Star
with the Millennium Falcon it's always cooler tight it barely fits that's a difference of
opinion that's a difference of opinion it's kind of like it's like it's like on the tier of Star Wars
gameplay you've got pod racing then you've got the ship space battles then you've got lightsaber
lightsaber duels are actually the worst of those and they're at the bottom of the list and then
you just put Jedi outcast and Jedi Academy at the actual top because all the lightsaber duels
except for power battles and Jedi outcast and Academy they're all terrible yeah I just
meant cool yeah cool and yeah laser swords in the original trilogy there are no cool fights
maybe except the last one that's not even that cool but if you like drool inducing prequel
fighting with lightsabers yeah that no I like that I outcast raver twists with glow sticks
that I outcast fighting would look really stupid if you saw it from the side on yeah it's a lot
of horizontal wipes and then jumps to nowhere and then horizontal swipes again I like the
brutality of the game and it feels really good to play but it looks like shit oh yeah
have you guys said it's a fucking 2,000-hour pc brogue squadron looks perfect today you ever
see the I like I like the cheat sheet for winning lightsaber fights yeah yeah you were you were
explaining oh my god it's the fucking best it's just like here's all the moves that would actually
win a lightsaber battle some of them are really dumb some of them are really dumb but there's
some good ones in particular the I'm disarmed you pull your sword out to kill me and I push
your lightsaber into your face and the best of all time my favorite you take a swing the guy
puts up his sword to parry it turn your lightsaber off yeah pass his blade and turn it back on but
then there's yeah but the guy defeats himself because he put he posts one and he's like yeah
this is a cool one I remember which move it was and then the next move under it is the counter
how to beat it and it's like yeah well guess what if you just keep inventing stupid things
like like guess what you have telekinetic powers with a with a with a flame that's the joke is
you're reading them and as you go further down you're seeing counters to all right well here's
the thing well there's a Star Wars explanation was so in the Jedi's don't actually have fast
reflexes they see one or two seconds into the future it's the sharing game so you would see
them turn it off and then you would turn yours off and no one would fight you would both move it to
touch and then they both turn on and convince the other guy that you don't need to fight and then
when he turns his back just stab you can't do that you can't do that to force it to people yeah well
people with strong wills doesn't matter because Palpatine was controlling that's why you couldn't
do it to Graham off Tarkin because he was all just old man was a badass it's like he knew what he
want like man that's the best part of that movie where Vader's this fucking devil creature over
there being a monster and off Tarkin's just a dude in a suit and he's like Vader shut up
there's like oh god how fucking cool how fucking cool would it be as episode seven comes out and at
the end Moses just cuts right through the cross garden goes that thing is pointless why did you
decide it that way that was shit what if that happens in the home and play now what happens in
the first scene you're right the forest scene is right away I somehow don't think a concept artist
designed a slight saver specifically to fail what if what if what if the end like the movie's
going real good and at the end of the movie Moses gets in a fight with three or four of the nights
of rent and they just have a 45 minute fist fight inside a blank cube of a room raids a good movie
okay okay all right no wouldn't that be much better than whatever I planned I was I was looking for
the attack the block reference I didn't get it right right there right actors okay they're the
red movie what country is the raiden oh god indonesia indonesia I thought it was Malaysia
I keep getting it wrong I think it's Malaysia I keep getting it and I know that there's one guy
out there that's telling us that we keep getting it wrong isn't it the city with the
super mayor city I don't know that would seem appropriate yeah that wasn't isn't that one in
South America no no those are East Southeast Asia for sure was it the super mayor Davao city
not the Philippines yeah maybe raids not in the Philippines no it's not stop stop this is terrible
so what I want to be in the Philippines that's your act all I know is that Davao is in the Philippines
yeah and the raider is in I'm gonna go with Malaysia wait they're like we're spending so much time
Indonesia fuck always get it wrong always what was it indonesia the important thing is that
apparently Southeast Asia is filled with badasses yeah that's what I take away from this fine
okay so I just give yourself a mnemonic like Indonesia in don't fuck with them because
they're bad asses terrible I don't know we got a new fighting game alerts and this is the kind
of game where it's like okay the name has me paying attention to fight a game cerebral yeah
there it is so ready for scrub lords of this shit I don't know this is in the word I just don't
know it's a being being called a love letter to Marvel vs. Capcom to oh wow the team of people
working on it includes the director of Marvel vs. Capcom includes the art director and lead
animator from harmonics disney and 30 studios American yeah yeah not Japanese you couldn't
tell us we roll yeah but what I'm here from they can talk about engineer from Crytek and vigil
uh to mellow the uh what yeah okay to mellow from fucking the chrono giga album and read only
memories the cyberpunk adventure okay I've used his music in the car that's quite a weird
pull on this game the engineer from Crytek and vigil sounds funny to me because he's from vigil
and then they all went to Crytek when they got bought out but they all left immediately so yes he
was at Crytek but only count his vigil experience okay yeah they got to Crytek and they're like how
realistic of a plant can you make in our engine okay we're out of here but if you had vigil you
at least worked on some type of combat melee based so is there any screens or anything right now we
just have some sprites basically um it's crisis man the other people yeah yes yeah I think so
like holy shit there's a guy from zillow another guy from crisis man I don't know those companies
so is there any sort of fighting games to rework because I I know it's horror slash like kind of
themed the main character seems to be like an evil witch looking girl I like kind of is this 2d
it's 2d I saw this and this game looks weird it looks like it's like it there it looks like
they're going for another marvel that which is super buff buff angry witch girl yeah this is weird
and when he says witch girl he doesn't mean like tiny waifu he means like green huge nose witch
oh yeah wicked witch of the west that's super buff yeah it's weird um so here's a sprite lamb
that's a fighting game character yeah okay yeah so is there like any sort of crowdfunding for this
no no no right now it's just the introduction that this is being made and we don't know
and they will ask for crowdfunding there'll be more details in the future but just put it on your
alert okay cerebral might be a thing um I like to mellow so I support I also like to I like I
support that I kind of triggered an album it's amazing yeah you never see giga play counter
kind of trigger uh you got sony announcing that they're not making any first party vita games
anymore ouch it's it's it's it's funny that like everyone's reporting on this because it's like
this was known like e3 2014 they said this exact thing so why did it hit the news cycle
because it's just straight out negative vita articles get clicks I guess I don't think they do
it actually really bothers me because it's like we got this reported in 2014 and we got it reported
now and at tgs you see like 60 games shown off for the vita and nobody talks about any of it
well because they're all japanese games you but still it's still frustrating so I mean
now it's like first party american no no besides well to a lot there hasn't been any first party
games since e3 2014 where they first it's it's a pretty simple situation where to a lot of people
that don't care about those niche japanese games the the the repeated like what no we're not making
first party games means that like well there's never gonna be another game yeah people associate
no of course that first party stuff is getting ported up to ps4 right now basically I think
that's all been done well it's all it's all like they're all past that already yeah exactly like
like they're still putting money into stuff like third party production and I know those guys are
working on vita games and like there are still aspects of sony where they're still putting
millions of dollars doing this but like you're just gonna have that weird life that some systems have
where it's like it's off the market and it's dead and look after like it'll stop being sold on
shelves and games will still come out for it for three more years yeah definitely like it's going
to be well like a like a dreamcast scenario mm-hmm yeah it's just a bummer because like next year
is going to be its best year for games and like everyone's like oh it's already close death and
it's like no my best year my best moments in life happened after I died yeah well rumors of its death
are greatly exaggerated so Matt sent me a link to a trailer and I watched it and then I just replied
what is this afrosamurai bullshit it looks really cool oh I know what this is furry fury
fury how do you pronounce that f u r i fury fury so this thing looks like afrosamurai guess why
because the art director is the fucking same guy that he was saying afrosamurai and tron mixed
with um like like kind of killer seven me kind of ground not killer seven but um
shut up killer's dead killer's dead looking kind of visuals uh yeah I don't know what to make of
this but it looks kind of cool cool looking we'll have to see where the gameplay goes but it might
at it's got some shmup stuff yeah like it might like at worst be like a kind of yaiba type of like
just nothing or it might be an actual one at worst because it's a guy with a sword running around
slashing it so that can go any way these days true yeah but that's why we're even reporting on it
because it's a game about a guy with a sword that's rare which happens rare I don't know we don't
count on on games with planes yeah we don't take that rogue squadron and then like a character
that looks like you realize like half the pilots have swords on them yeah that's true and you've
like they brought back like that teddy character good r2d2 kuma kuma and it's like oh it looks like
it's just another version of that so his deal seems to be putting cute like kanye west bear heads
on samurai I'm mad that I'm not trapping you more to play revenge of kuma with me I talked about it
you should it's fallen on the way man you told me where the trap was before I stepped I know
you said watch out for those twigs and then I said okay thanks and I stepped over I'm actively
disappointed that you're not playing revenge of kuma together we'll do it we'll do it you can't
warn me about the trap I'll try to be nice now you got me thinking about star wars shit again
what are we going to get a star wars game that has a slug thrower in it shut up there might be an
update to persona for arena ultimax there there already was but we in the arcade yeah and so it
looks like that's what we're waiting for we're waiting for that but but it's it looks like they
they might be updating that too yeah so like well that you know that's why we've been waiting for it
on exactly we know there's a new version coming we're gonna show away for the cabinet yeah yeah
well no I think we'll look at it sooner that's why you know when when you when you can tell us
that blaze moves not gonna have another update then we'll do that one too yeah yeah they fucking had
the audacity to come out and say chrono fantasma was the final version then they made seven others
they did that with guilty gear too accent core dash or whatever was like this is the last version
for real no for real though and snake eaters the final metal gear like the fucking no but yeah
just don't say it don't say it when it's a lie from second one yeah you never know I prefer the
ambiguous answer of maybe you know maybe well I went back to read up on the galawide incident
and just and how'd that go oh ghost babel is so good with blaze now go look at the cell phone game
yeah there's one because you'll be you'll be impressed with blaze blue in philanthropy before
mgs2 fuck you what's it called it your solid the cell phone yeah it's there somewhere it takes
place in philanthropy yeah damn okay uh we got we got um lots of dark souls three footage uh popping
up yeah looks like dark souls looks like dark souls can't look good let's what can you say um
there's also really soured my I'm disappointed they didn't talk more about that dark souls three
footage my crazy moment that just got made it looks good yeah I know but this is like
almost every time we mentioned dark souls style you for a disappointment we didn't talk more about
our souls too is a fantastic game but I feel mad at it because it's not ds1 it no that it like if
if ds2 didn't happen then when this news would come out I would be devouring this shit frame by frame
yeah and checking vaudey and enb and spies channels every single day to see hear their thoughts on this
the look of this weapon but now I played it at 93 packs I was like yeah that game's pretty good
I'll wait for it to come out I think I think the dark souls like kind of fan base and the from and
from software in a weird place where it is a good year it doesn't matter no it doesn't even matter
anymore because even if it is a good year they're the it's always the peak will always have something
to hate on about it yeah there'll always be a really like a good set of reasons for that like
do people are going to be shitting on whatever the latest
you do the opposite of assassin's creed where they start putting tons of cut scenes and you learn the
truth that's probably gonna happen the true nature of like the flame is actually one of the one of
the big things in dark souls 3 and a guy just takes off a helmet 20 minutes ago that was a crazy
video game that could be a real thing so you start playing dark souls 3 and it asks you a question
did you like i like demon souls i like dark souls i like bloodborne the souls give me a weird
place because there aren't that there aren't that many games king's deal king's deal but we're already
at that point in a series in which every single game that comes out someone's going to come up and
say what it wasn't as good as dark souls one no and then that person is going to turn around and
someone's going to look at him is like what are you talking about it's all way better dark souls
one and then those two will fight forever because that's the thing is now i'm in a place where i
like demons better but i prefer to play bloodborne than any of yeah it's a weird like it feels so
weird to me as the as the outsider that's just because i all i can see is all four of these
games have tons of people talking shit about them yes and the two that are all wrong the games are
all amazing so they're i'm assuming and they're the worst one and i'm assuming that the other two
are also great yeah but the worst thing about is talking mad shit about them it's my this is my
thing the worst thing about it is like a lot of people like you know demons is still my favorite
but like going back to them is hard to go back even dark one is harder to go dark one has some
stuff like like the games age really really poorly you know what this reminds me of this
going back you're gonna have a worse experience this this reminds me of shin megami tensei fans
and and talking about smt one smt two nocturne and four nocturne is probably the worst one
it's my favorite because i played it and i was able to play it and beat it because i had all the
convenience stuff and it was a little easier there are people that swear by nocturne like crazy
what about dds there are people that swear by that as well and and there are people that's like
this one this one this one this one like all the old games the past 20 years those are the best ones
you can't go back and play them now they're too old the the especially the way atlas improves their
mechanics and makes it like more convenient like you can't go back to nocturne you can't go back to
randomly choosing skills on your demons there's only one game you got to play because you don't
because you don't have to play as fucking teenagers you get to play as cool guys you
don't get to play as children plays fucking soldiers you're talking about strange strange
journey is the best one strange journey is impossible it's the best one have you beaten it
yes wow it's amazing and i want to fucking clap for you and demikids light wasn't bad
liam you took the stage and then everyone was like yeah you just kept going i'm clapping for you
because like i gave strange journey a shot and it's so good quickly back in my face before you
lose everybody this is the urge to bring up demikids demikids is not okay i want to ask you
something and give me a straight answer am i crazy or is strange journey way harder than some of the
other one it's really hard you just have to you just have to be attentive and it's it's tough it is
tough and there are bits where you're you'll get into a fight because and you'll be like oh my god
these guys are going to do 80 percent of my health because i found like s 74 is balanced to be perfect
motherfucker go get your neutral and s 74 is easy go get your neutral and i don't want to play it
harder no that's fair that's fair i'll say it again it's easy go get your neutral and i'm still
going i'm still salt that the game stole my neutral ending away from me it'd be like it'd be like if
a new game came out and you had an item that you could use and they give you like a buff until you
die and what it does it it revives you on the spot with full health like that's the difficulty gap
between like smt4 and the other ones i don't know i'm saying syndicate's fine but man it all comes
down to ac1 no-hud i i think that's the only ac to game worth playing i threw myself a strange
journey for a full evening and got literally nowhere i was so frustrated it's it's tough so i
thought that we were at the bottom of the pt depression like oh no david cage scale ah but
you found the second chamber but now i realize that no head mass now we're not yet at the level of
wrecked where you're putting your hands on your heads like david cage is like odds um you were
also supposed to win things by playing you know uh jingy ito was the fucking was quite a stinger
but uh now we just we have uh gearmo coming out and going yeah man uh apparently some of the stuff
they came up with is starting to resent you del Toro a little bit here i'll quote i'll quote him
we had a great experience in the great and great sessions with hundreds upon hundreds of designs
some of the stuff we were designing for silent hills i've seen in games that came afterwards like
last of us which makes me think we were not wrong we're going in the right direction the thing with
kojima and silent hills is that i thought we'd really do a really remarkable game and go for the
jugular we're hoping to create some sort of panic with the devices we were used talking about and
it's a shame it's not happening when you ask how things operate it makes no fucking sense at all
that this game is not happening it makes no fucking sense at all now the story is kind of
old but we didn't really get to talk about last time hey hey hey billy i know you've always
really wanted a puppy and we had the best puppy ever the cutest puppy ever but he did he did back
flips on command he'd he'd bring he'd steal toys for you from the store he did your homework just
statistically seeking he was so well right it was so soft that every time you pet him you would
cry he's dead now billy we broke his neck and put him in the bag and tossed him in the river
but then we told you stories about him for weeks afterwards months it's almost a year now and every
once in a while we go fetch some bones and just show them to you over a year we just hold we hold
the bag out and just point at it and remind you that of the bag the only real one that dog's name
was konami the only reason i think that deltor keeps doing this is because he wants someone's
mind to be changed but it won't be the people are something the people whose minds he needs to change
don't read what he's saying yeah he can't speak the language he's saying it in yeah like i know
like the line that he said where it doesn't make sense like you know obviously we'll never know
100% but you can extrapolate that pretty well too yeah they were really just done making console
games period because if if he would go far enough to say it just doesn't make sense then they must
have really just been like yeah no more console games well that fo that fob stuff in the insurance
thing really feels like yeah we don't really care about the long-term damage we might do to this
brand just just get the money now just we're never gonna come back to these people so it doesn't
matter i guess the better way he could understand that is imagine he was making a movie and then
the company goes yeah we're gonna stop making movies for now and just make refrigerators
and he'd be like what where's all my money to make the rest of my movie in this refrigerator
you can make a refrigerator if you want but you can use these three kinds of cool yeah extra special
shout out to the photos of the kojima leaving party followed up by konami announced that kojima
still works for konami no he's not left we don't know where these baseless rumors are coming from
he's going on an extended vacation and having fucking wolf of wall street parties this is the most
blatant live ever seen in the industry ever he's going up to live at the uncle your uncle's place
what about those mountains over there that you can climb like what about that line no there's photo
evidence of the man that is going away party i know this is literally i forget maybe it was plague
that even made this joke to me but like somebody said it's like your father's going out for cigarettes
yeah sure sure yeah he's coming back right he's totally coming back yeah and no your dog went
up to live what you're all good for in the world of press releases and your and your and your and
your and your wife and your mom is just crying in the kitchen a year later you're like a kojima's
coming back right like that totally totally he's just out there works here so works here
in a world of twitter and press releases there's no such thing as an absolute lie
like you're like eventually someone's gonna say something where it's like no i don't work there
three or four days after like an article came out like extenuating like this is when his non-compete
clause runs out and like is it really that cynical that they're they believe that japanese
companies will fall for this and not try and scoop him up asap like aren't there photos of
him hanging out with sony dudes they're allowed to talk they're allowed to even start working on
stuff just he can't do anything publicly can't get paid also nothing yeah exactly i just i love every
bit of those things following each other yeah no there's a photo of him with mark sony like
so it's like it's crazy hey guys pull the lover pull the lover pull the lover
um we've got the uh oh yeah the first we you emulator now exists yeah last week yeah it's
crazy it's cool that's crazy you could play uh any s remix at five frames which sounds terrible
but that's amazing yeah it's amazing because it lets you be the level super easy yeah it's well
it's a current gen emulator like that's already like well you gotta get some usage out of it yeah
depending on your definition of current gen emulator it's no gva emulator but it's in there
i mean correct me if i'm wrong but they're still working on ps3 aren't they yeah that's
never gonna happen yeah okay yeah but i mean like the we was was hack was like emulatable day zero
gamecube was gba negative days the emulator came out before the gba they knew that they knew that uh
you know how to emulate the we right so all they need to know is how to emulate the duct tape
yeah how do you emulate three we's at the same time yeah it's really impressive though i like legit i
can't wait until that works super good because like i hate how the we use hardware is so limited
i can't pick up a second gamepad in the future if my gamepad breaks i'm fucked now call nintendo
how am i gonna play fiddle frame in the future when my u breaks and there's no way to repair it
for some absurd fee yeah or not yeah or they'll be like no it's too late i don't i don't advocate
piracy but like emulation needs to exist i have a second we use gamepad and i couldn't
well did you see that for me to get it did you see that some archivists figure out a way to just
get the pkg file for pt out of a playstation yeah that file exists and when a playstation
four emulator eventually occurs pt will exist they should put that on a usb stick and give it to
the smithsonian yes so they can make sure that no one else needs it there's also a remake project
called uh i think it's punity um that's for pc that you can like just just just just do just do the
whole thing do it uh liam tell us about near uh uh near is a really good game came out a few years
ago so there's a book that talks they'll do the fishing sorry do you mean the new one uh so we have
the it was an it was an interview with uh sorry sorry there was a recent interview wasn't there
was there not yeah and they pretty much confirmed that yeah platinum's pretty much doing the whole
thing yeah i'm surprised there was ever any doubt that's what i assumed it would be like when platinum's
logo showed up at the beginning it was like well yeah platinum's all the heavy lifting you know why
though because at least for me it's seeing how their names are attached to so many projects
you kind of go do they have that many people yeah they do we never they do they do and i guess so and
they and they because you always seem that it's like it's a little bit of help here and there from a
small team but it's like no every time scale bound all of uh did i get that right yes good okay uh
right now right now it'd be scale bound star fox and and star fox and and i guess and at the time
there was transformers when we were first talking about this and transform so that just sounds like
way more on their plate than we're used to because they get so much money like like their games don't
sell but everybody wants to give them money for vanity projects that's the other reason why
best of many projects like and transformers and probably under time yeah so platinum's making it
and um well if if kei-che okabe delivers a soundtrack as good as his soundtracks usually are
which is say they're amazing so he did he did moonlit wilderness and tecan uh he did your soundtrack
he um
if yoko taro delivers like that's right clean it up clean it up well that's all you needed to say
if yoko taro delivers a story and and writing as oh my god here and if platinum delivers really
the the quality and polish you expect from them this will be the best game ever made of all
time so so what you're saying is that there is a god and he's like near so what you're saying
all the people listen to your soundtrack man in your soundtrack so what you're saying is if all
the people give their eight out of ten efforts it'll be one of the best games ever yeah exactly
exactly um i fucking can't wait i can't like i'm still kind of like shocked that it even and
something's got to go wrong vanity project something's got to go wrong i don't even think so
because whatever goes wrong with platinum games oh oh i know i know konami cancels it somehow well
like they cancel on them is there a word for b1 vanity oh sorry it's right like for beyond
ego because there's ego projects yeah this is an ego project wasteful masturbatory projects
every david cage game ever because there's a i feel like there's a moment where someone from
that's not what vanity means vanity means you're doing it to look good yeah david cage games don't
really make you look good after the fact yeah you know what i mean i thought i feel like eventually
we're gonna get a situation where square annex employees are gonna stand up on stage like so we're
doing near two we're doing the remake shut up it's not it's not two by the way yeah okay well we're
doing a second year game it's it can't really the ff7 remake now it's just shut up for a little bit
yeah just we're doing it it's what you wanted square annex's output is dumb good right now i
like they are so it has no place in this podcast but that new patch that they're gonna put out for
14 is like one of the best i heard mmo patches i've ever seen i heard you mentioned it one time
it's crazy it makes no logical business business logic sense if that makes any sense that platinum
is not making money on their like sales but it's still so high in demand behind the seat
because like under budget and probably on time well because because developers like they get royal
to use sure but like at the end of the day it's the publisher who's who's stiffened the actual money
you know i mean so they don't actually get hurt like no they're they're contracted revenge they're
doing their jobs yeah revengeance came in under budget in like under a year yeah from the start
it's magical under budget was that ever confirmed anyone i assume they always come in under budget
because because one thing i see a lot of people say about platinum is they're they're cheap and
it's like no they probably cost the exact same as everyone else i remember they just consistently
deliver a higher quality well like if if you're being paid hourly hourly wages on time or under
time is under budget right no for sure but like i see a lot of people say that but there's never
been any i remember in the interview with sorry when you look at revengeance or mighty number
and i'm mighty over nine revengeance and wonderful 101 you look at those games you see how they're
designed and like you don't feel like as much money as being wasted like a call of duty where
a actor was contracted and then there's this huge cutscene that you needed 5 000 people to make
for sure i i think that's the only i'm sure but like 20 programmers still cost 20 programs
there was an interview with kidney like a kajima where he it felt like they don't have a sign that
they got a hotdog man twirling around with a friend it says bargain programmer i don't like
don't know or the the the the the yes the anime i don't remember the specific wording and it may
have just me been like seeing things that aren't there yeah but i i remember there being an interview
with kajima where he talked about wanting to work with them again or it was implied that they excelled
at every aspect of production implying that they all oiled machine that like every demand that the
publisher would have they actually exceeded in every way that's right now it includes time and
money yeah well yeah a smooth budget is undeniably cheap but like i see people saying like they are
inexpensive to hire and it's like i think there's a difference no i think that the only way they'd be
inexpensive to hire is because they work way faster than other developers they turn they turn feature
creep into new weapons yeah every time it's like it can we have a new feature yeah but can we make
a new weapon out of that instead dude transformers weapons set we're like by the end of the game you
get like uh sound waves thing that stuns enemies and you get the grapple and you're like what yeah
why are these cool features yeah i got tutorials for it like what the hell went on that i thought
tweeted like i thought you lied about the hammer you never ever lied the hammer's too good i never
got the grapple hook i didn't get it either i didn't get it just imagine d from always
sunny just outside the platinum offices waving around with the airman just look he's doing it
airman good time come on in to get your parking platinum prices i know a lot of a lot of on near
like a lot of people are worried that they have to play the first game and stuff i don't think
you'll have to play the first game i don't know it is not near to and they've been very clear it's
not and i think you would say like god forbid you have to suffer through no no near something
well that's what i'm saying because even if you have to drinking guard this is not weird no drinking
guard there's some suffering drink don't play drinking guard don't uh but like play near despite
like even if you don't that guy wants to bang his sister that's you don't need it but play near
what are you and one of the drinking guards that's the whole oh and drinking card i think you're
saying in near she's got a flower in her eye and that makes no that different one different one
that makes me a co no i think it's drinking guard too where the guy's like man i really gotta
fuck my sister i forgot about drinking guard too and you're like whoa that's on my agenda today
i can't wow this is in sword art that's that's an american character in a jenny's city yeah
yeah oh because she's so attractive i can't believe she's this cute oh i thought that was the whole
point of this journey uh i want to give a shout out to muscle temple a kickstarter for pro wrestling
comics oh yeah it's being put together by a whole bunch of cool people and uh if you like the sound
of that then you need to jump on it who's working on it uh it's at eight out of 20k that's not what he
asked you it's got 14 days to go double not what he asked you and the list of people includes
david smith of metal oculops adventure time and king star king that's a good tyler retchinson
from we draw comics and die homer uh we've got a lot of people we've got nathan bowman from mad
magazine uh we've got zack gorman from rick and morty and over in the garden wall and costume
quests oh shit uh a lot of stuff going on here muscle temple adventures dot com this is a fucking
rustling comment from nickalodian san jane craig and frank gibson from be a puppy cat um that's all
the shows and then like a whole bunch of other people i didn't list there i'm sorry uh
oh jimmy chang i know that guy he's cool secret animal uh and some oh yeah it's just wrestling
comics and it's all like different art styles and like go look at the the images they put up
you've got uh fucking rusev as a clock with his arms pointing to the crush crush crush a clock
thing and stuff it just looks like a fun little uh graphic novel oh my god look at that bear show
pet that bear fight like bear oh that's good oh that's good bear there's a bear wrestling trunk
if you want a cool wrestling comment check that out wasn't the art style expected from that bear
didn't expect pencils it's the new day showing up like uh wb cartoon oh that's cool so yeah looks
fun uh muscle temple so only a k of 20 though yeah they got 14 days to go so it's doable it's doable
a little gray america what she used to be uh nx dev kits are shipping out and the rumor for free
the rumor about the shipped nx dev kits is that the console handheld hybrid is likely cool
but the real question is is it a console handheld hybrid or is it a console mobile hybrid i will i
will just kill myself me me and lian heading myself if it's a tablet really i don't like i will live
stream we will watch we will watch that press conference we can put that on the channel yeah
exactly here's a live from liam's rooftop he's gonna strike his murder he's gonna strangle himself
with the with a bunch of we remote straps yeah no uh uh real talk i was talking with pat the other
we had a really long conversation about this if so you know this is heavily speculation territory
there's no fact to this you know the kits came out that's fact uh and and there's some sort of
two people messing around with the console and then there are two pieces of this device there are
some people who have pointed out that it's possible that the handheld bit is a touch device purely
with no buttons like you know i have thoughts or something i would be so so unhappy we're not
there's not going to be another vita there's not going to be a follow-up to the vita the vita is
still going to be alive until 2018 or 19 yeah there's not going to be another vita until we
invent um touch screens that can give you like a push-up like tactile feedback that's actually
even then and even then they're shaped like a rectangle so well that that tech has been invented
it's not where you want it to be oh really the nintendo doesn't pay and they don't get a good
argument and a rectangle is shitty here yeah um like real talk that'll be the only handheld on the
market and so handhelds are dead if that's a handheld that you didn't want to buy but you got it like
your new console yeah if if they have the audacity to ship one without like without buttons let alone
without two sticks without buttons you're gonna get you're gonna get your 360p tablet and you're
gonna like it and it's gonna be resistive yeah but bad resistive because they won't pay for good
resistive because nintendo they won't pay for capacitive and they won't even spring for good
like i've never felt this concern because i love nintendo i genuinely like i love nintendo and i
love handhelds but there's always been a second option so even though i'm not a huge fan of the
3ds like do i do i want a more comfortable console that now that there's not gonna be a vita 2 this
better like this is the only option now they're asking themselves do we want to potentially bleed
money in this for another generation or like is it is the risk of because like putting a second
product out because i'd be sad if it was a tablet it was just an old touch device even if i had the
most haptic septic whatever the fuck you're gonna say in a bunch of dumb words i care about i still
you still don't want to play it i still i don't want to play 2d mario i i feel like i'll be really
stupid if they don't and all their investors are pressuring them and i really hope that i feel
like i should point out how correct matt is as we've all had a recent experience with haptic
feedback that was unsatisfactory yeah to say the one thing so i gave that controller to lima
i don't wear it is you don't want it back no i mean i gave it to you and then i'm back i was gonna
say yeah but you brought it to people so that they could see it right yeah it's in my place come on
so the future of opens up his controller freak show come see the freak yeah i know that we're not
like yeah that fucking ps0 gamecube controller right yeah i'm not that one so i know that we're
not anywhere near a future where you put your hand on the virtual d-pad and you feel a real d-pad yeah
but if we're anywhere near the level you can feel a couple of bumps i'm ready for that i don't seem
that acceptable it is very expensive i still don't seem that acceptable because then you've got
buttons on top of the game screen yeah yeah yeah so here's what i and then and then you have to cut
it down in size yeah and at that point why didn't you just have fucking butt here's ears like i all
right i refuse now that's hardline stance lim that's a doom and gloom snare animal almost all out
you particularly but everyone's gonna be sad i don't think that's likely i don't think it's
likely either because they want to keep monster hunter so let's put now's the last time before
we have any technical details whatsoever yeah that we can have totally raw guesses
what's the resolution of the screen leon
480 minimum okay well a's gotta be 480 they're not gonna do another fucking 360 screen dude
no they definitely not 360 it was it was 240 uh 240 jesus christ but i i i'm gonna excel just makes
me think it's bigger for some reason but i'm gonna say 720 all right he says 720 you guys say 480
i say 480 plus yeah 480 plus i'm gonna say between 400 and 480 i 480 would be too obvious
and normal it's going to be some busted ass 421 resolution that's what i think all right buttons
yes or no uh yes i think i think we're gonna get like uh uh the the vita layout so okay two sticks
there you can't commit to fucking fart smarts fart fart phones exactly sorry what was that even
close to being i was gonna say you can't commit to a smartphone layout but you guys can't commit
to a fart phone layout yeah you gotta get your buttons in there yeah yeah that's what i'm saying
maybe they'll be detachable like the only yeah maybe possibly um i'd say buns but it's gonna be weird
okay i'm gonna i'm gonna say it'll be almost a full controller layout with one very significant
like missing piece like a second analog stick the second analog stick is on the first analog
which which you will go how it's double how did they miss it because i what i what i'm imagining
is 64 i'm imagining that we you again except you have a portable version of the game and it's smaller
i i thought about it before that's exactly what i'm expecting and like one of the things that
i'm thinking they might take a swing at and this is a complete guess because there's nothing going
towards this is that the handheld device will be a like like i'm holding my iphone up like a phone
that has just a thing that you snap it into with all the buttons and it's got you know
nintendo build quality so it ultimately doesn't matter it has a touch state a pure touch state
and it also has a controller yeah exactly and that would be a future i'd be i'd be totally okay
with because as long as that dedicated setup is perfect it's fine i have a couple more questions
for for the of course your proof yeah how many screens does this thing have one one name says one
that says one yeah yeah i also say one but you can use them and i'll say we're done we're done with
one but you can use them in tandem for certain games yeah certainly like like but let's be real
like the gimmick ran its course we saw some cool uses of it but not as many as we expected
to like flip the genre okay or anything it's it's one screen the ds did it all the 3ds ruined it by
having a 3d screen so don't use the bottom screen anymore here comes the next one does this thing
have 3d no no no i actually i i'm on that as well i don't think oh as a techno yeah and the last one
doesn't have a touch screen and if so what kind of touch screen like capacity capacity it would have
to be passed again they're gonna have absolutely the capacity is good enough now that it's fine
with multi touch it used to be with the ds that's why they used resistive but now i know someone
out there is willing to do this catalog that there's still please throw it up somewhere on the reddit
or whatever there's still backwards compatibility which is of course no nope and no way region locking
which is of course yes yeah i know i like what do you mean no backwards compatibility i i'm seeing
no backwards compatibility and region locking why would you say that because i trust them no backwards
compatibility for like 3ds games and we u games no i absolutely will have it oh okay that's that's
on a one screen device sure how exactly i don't know i'm not trying to be facetious i okay because
backwards compatibility like downloadable gba games and stuff sure sure sure but like okay i i i think
it has to it has to at least emulate something uh it was yeah like older with the 3ds and we you if
you really wanted to in this handheld part of it had a screen you could emulate we u games are you
and you could emulate 3ds games badly is virtual console backwards compatibility no just just 3ds
and we you okay in this case okay i'm gonna i'm gonna i'm gonna be cynical maybe i need to think more
about it but i just i'm expecting the last two systems had it no backwards compatibility and
region locking here i don't think they'll be region locking i i genuinely hope there's no reason
why is because a lot of before he passed started saying stuff like i don't know about this we're
gonna try to look at this and all we have but then atlas japan did their stuff because they like
region then all we have to go on is that the new guy that got a point it said i'm gonna try my best
to yeah do whatever so that's if there wasn't that then i'd be like sure things like this is such a
maker break console for them it's like such maker i feel like they're gonna they're gonna i think
they're gonna put the wall right no it's new uh there's one last question for this that i want
on the table so we all get to we'll see how good our guesses are in the future how powerful is the
consoles tech going to be compared to the two current consoles i'm gonna say like the handheld
will be like around the level of the vita probably i'm gonna say vita minus 20 you're probably gonna
be able to get equivalent if not slightly better visuals because of the low screen resolution yeah
but yeah and for the console probably somewhere around xbox one i agree with that level um
which is to just say slightly below slightly below ps4 maybe slightly below the xbox but comparable
i'm expect to get the price point i feel like i expect like a psp coming out of nintendo man
because still haven't gotten there because i i feel like they're because nintendo's always willing
to fucking save money on on on hardware and shit like that and then just work magic with
their software is with their software exactly and they always do that and you see the the thing
that detect them once like oh that's really pretty okay it's cool it's fine it has to it has to be as
good as the xbox one or slightly worse because they need ports i don't i think i think they're
they're dying i think we're getting a psp i think we're getting a psp for the handheld for the handheld
i think that's for the handheld yeah for the handheld for the console the 3ds resolution aside
was more powerful than a psp the console the console is going to approach yeah like the
courage end you know it'll be it'll be no expectations for the it'll be 2017 or 2018 and
we'll be like oh maybe this new con no maybe this new handheld maybe as strong as the bsb because
guess what guess what if they if they if they fucking uh if they sandbag the handheld people
are still gonna just have it as that extra visual ui menu for the game they're playing on the tv
so they probably won't care oh you know what i forgot there was one last question please go on
let's get some price oh okay so it's all like 400 and let's use american dollars for convenience
too optimistic but like yeah 399 199 what do they always what's 199 just a handheld it's usually
250 maybe even without the buttons is it 399 than the magic we have seen that 399 is the magic
point that's that's two generations in a row yeah there's two magic points one is 200 bucks
and the other is 400 bucks gamecube is like 250 to 399 buy yourself a hard drive for extra shit
yeah no it's gonna come with it no no i mean i mean like optional he needs extra optional
more expensive skew with better hard drive okay because i because yeah the nintendo is gonna fix
the heart they better i think i think the one skew solution has like kind of hurt them over the
years and they had two for the weekend uh for yeah you're right there's a 616 you're right you're
right yeah and the we you suffered as a result of those two skews two skews lower skew at 399
uh yeah i see 399 is one of the prices i think we all agree with that okay somebody tabulate all
those guesses and have them ready for us when this thing gets properly announced i want to i want to
be i want to be wrong i want us to all be completely wrong there's i want this thing to cost 700
dollars yeah and it's like an xbox it's like an xbox handheld and it's region locked and
and it's backwards compatible with n64 there it is not the game cube cartridges only cartridges
so it's cartridge i think it might actually have cartridges it has games and a watch yeah
at the same watch it be all digital the cell phone is going to be the primary component and the
console will be the add-on i i don't think side talking i don't think they're ready to get rid
of retail because nintendo does so well at like in holidays and stuff at retail but um yeah digital
is coming okay we got a closer and closer to the digital present okay we got it we got a roll we
got a roll thank you for indulging me guys yeah sure welcome so then that means we're gonna fast
forward right past resident evil vr good good um because they capcom is fully the two resident
evil guys just said good okay just like uh fuck all y'all japanese guilty gear voters i hate you
dizzy one yeah the revelator vote that she's three years old her tits are hanging out of course
of course you know what's the greater tragedy of it rigid didn't take and didn't get it no the
greater tragedy is that don't don't will not be at evil that's true no i guess so that's the
greater tragedy and listened and hates dong dong did you see jams underwear though oh shut up that's
the worst uh did you willy no um jams underwear is colored differently per costume of course
but every day of the week it changes uh design disney is the greatest so you want to see stripey
ones come back on wednesday what a hero you want to see polka dot ones come back on tuesday it's
fanservice to the next level i'm really glad that someone's brave enough to do this i hope that
it takes i hope that fails compliance for some reason you know what i mean i hope you're on
double passes it and they get extra money from yeah wow you passed so good dude someone was on
panty duty checking a checklist to make sure that every day of the clock was right of course um
deo's new form in jojo eye of heaven how the fuck did deo get to heaven i really here's the part
so here's the part where this only gets awesome if you've read part six
and i can't say anymore but it ties in at events of part six to events of part three so far and
it's like what if things went his way and it's fucking cool okay that yeah all right i haven't
read part six but i know enough about part six that he just all clicked in my head what if it
what if things went his way what if things went his way and then six happened and then in the
okay yeah there it is what if the world joined the fantastic four the stand is called the world
over heaven and they'd be the fantastic one plus four uh we're gonna skip past the uh the smash
four streak tournament guy that got beat is he still the greatest he's the champion of all time
or ever i he won 74 tournaments in a row he has to be the greatest it's not that there's no competition
in this shit game no it doesn't matter he's still one the dead or alive extreme three trailer looks
pretty impressive skin looks amazing i don't know what else to say just get some good characters
exceed we'll release remember just take that just take that as tech demo footage for doa six sure
like that's always one of that of course it's the war gods to doa um you we've got a little king
story senran kagurai shinobi versus and zenidu next are you just saying a bunch of words in a row
yeah i am finally on the platform they were always meant to be and will flourish a little king
story i'll play great on pc though yeah i would actually i hope it's the original version not that
fucking yeah start your gary's edgy edgelord version it is the we version good the only one
that uh exceed has any i hate that version i try to make it it's a shame because it's a better game
it is i prefer the art from the original it's weird that they're doing snowy versus because it's a
previous game we've got the uh daredevil season two cocktail trailer oh yeah punisher's the villain
yeah and it's and the entire show is about him right like you you if you know the character if you
know the character he played a walking dead it's so perfect oh yeah he was also i was shaming it up
she is frank you told me about this before you told me about this before but this actor is also
in sicario which i mentioned that i that watch yeah and he was like crooked cia agent and also
kind of tough but whatever he's a great actor so this is a fucking scumbag this season is gonna be
weird because like we're all rooting for punisher yeah like no one wants no one wants that to win
you know what he's got i don't know the actor's name but he's got that thing where you don't see the
whites of his eyes you see mostly just dark what the punisher actor yeah john barron ball and it's
just like god damn you look evil but here's the thing uh netflix daredevil is like my most
liked daredevil because it's so good yeah it's the best one but i uh i want i want i can't wait for
are you crying yeah i can't wait for the episode seven or eight where they they one of them
incapacitates the other and they get to have their moral argument yeah in which case daredevil's
like no you have to be a good person and punisher's response is fuck you i'm gonna shoot everyone
or when they start mixing storylines or mixing comic book references and have
daredevil with a gun taped to his head i'm sorry shooting you brian wildly going i'm so sorry
that'd be good uh that'd be good we've got the um are you sure you didn't spend your youth crying
and reading punisher comics we've got the all caps announcement that legendary and warner brothers
pictures announced the cinematic franchise uniting godzilla and other iconic giant monsters
i slightly called this i slightly called this where you brought this story up really a few weeks
ago and you're like i don't know what's gonna and i was like oh man the godzilla kaiju cinematic
universe thinking well that'll never happen and they'll never get out of this legal mumbo jumbo
and no we did and it's the kaiju cinematic universe here's the bullet points kong skull island
confirmed for 2017 godzilla 2017 godzilla 2 for 2018 and godzilla versus kong for 2020
like someone someone looked in my brain and said what are you thinking about what you got
in there let's make it reality and flesh go watch that movie and then get out of theaters and vote
for kanya west what missing 2020 2020 2020 west you're running for president oh
oh i'll pay attention america yeah we talked about this off podcast not on but like in case you
missed it go watch mike ross and uh taffo kids talking about smash brothers oh it's good it's
a good interview uh this came out it came out last week but it's a really really fun time
describes how uh smash players are a bunch of babies how could you forget kanya was going to
run for president after that hellish day we spent in an airport it's true where all we watched was
was us news and it was the funniest thing ever united states is a crazy place insane if you want
to uh tell us about how the ballots will be rigged for kanya send your letter to super best
friendcast at gmail.com what was that was the best friendcast at gmail.com these voting machines
just won't let me vote for anyone but my twisted dark fantasy it turns all the candidates into their
first the first letter of their last name and easy all right wow wrong wrong room wow all right
rap music i'm sorry i try black people joke and you're doing rap music that's not of 1998 to 2004
that's when i stopped the game yeah you were in the game for a while man yeah that little juncture
oh horribly what's your console theme at the moment console mine's devil may cry for uh for a ps4
it's uh a journey all right on ps4 it's default because i like it the best it's just the default
one nice on ps3 it's finland wants to know on ps3 it's corn love which is the best theme by far
right it's uh on ps3 it's double dragging neon on ps4 it's godzilla on xbox one it's hasako
and my 3ds if you count that is metalgear solid three oh yeah i might make yes i have the pickman
one yeah um yeah there you go dmc i just i need that well what's on your ps4 or your xbox one
like what's your background on my back on my my xbox one that's what i count as a thing sorry it's on
my xbone it's just uh thunder on my ps4 it's the it's yeah dmc4 theme where it's like you got
virtual staring at you you scroll up and you get to see near on don't turn the couch
lost those guys they're hanging out look at those guys hang out oh they're never come they never do
that uh if you guys okay shoryuko wants to know if you guys could go back uh to an alternate time
where a game that you've already played the final version of from the past where you could get a
chance to play the beta for it what would it really what's mine seven sons final fight seven
but but but but that's not um what that's a cancelled game no but it got to beta it got to
beta but i think the question is the question is more just like a game that came out a game that
came out the beta for a game that came out that's my closest metric i guess yeah i see for me it's
good like i know it's not even out yet but like lily bergamot i'd want to see what that was before
it became i think that's way more wasn't even attempted yeah then it got changed and then
concept trailer i'd be curious to see gameplay of what that was before it became let it die
i want to see that first no more heroes when it was just called heroes oh yeah that's what that's
another one yeah and a different art style uh i i think i'm or the 360 no more i think i that
was a good one and like you said that and you tugged at my heartstrings but i think maybe gladiator
ad what wait what gladiator oh yeah yeah uh tournament of legends the original gladiator
ad that was dusty and sepia tone and that's fucking gory and shit that's a good one man that i like
that one a lot because that definitely was one game that existed at some point yeah it probably
wouldn't have been as memorable because nope me and woolly couldn't go tournament of legends no that
came out to perfect like it probably wouldn't have been a good thing to play at all matt you had
woolly answer for you so you should answer for me i'd um resident evil 1.5 there it is man yeah
that's a piece of cake it's and that's the most complete of all of the ones we've talked about
so i'd love to try the hook man demo would you prefer that oh hook man demo yeah well that's
very limited would you prefer that to the um this scrapped re3 that wasn't devil may cry the
other re4 re4 that yeah the other re4 that turned into devil may prototype he means hook man hook man
okay uh but yeah i don't know there was hook man there was the devil may cry one which like
i think that's do you look at those games hard enough like oh you can see it well you can really
see it no so like the devil may cries pretty close to that prototype it feels that's my guess
but yeah already 1.5 like the whole game is completely different and almost done it like 90%
done yeah that's crazy uh it wasn't good apparently right the macame and camea didn't like it okay we
don't know if it wasn't any good okay all all you know is that both of them and the whole team
apparently was behind them to like nah let's fuck it and scrap it okay and capcom let them get away
with it so they must have felt that was the right decision it's still an interesting one to play
seems it got so far for sure yeah maybe i'll get to yeah depending how that work goes really really
quickly i know it's like not really in the thing but at least we all know i would really love to
have played it didn't you know have a finished game but son of the dragon for the wea which was the
black and white Dracula based action game made by renegade kid well then project hammer right
project hammer no that's okay so we've talked about cancel games in the past well no but that's
what i'm saying i wrote this question up because i didn't i didn't want canceled games i was saying
betas for things yeah we answered the question we answered it we answered it and then some we got
yeah we got extra credit all right lastly from tyler uh bagels toasted or untoasted a toasted
toasted shit except there's one exception yeah what's that i think uh when you get them you know
fresh when you get them super fresh and you stand outside a fresh bagel doesn't need to be toasted
because it just was it was just made yeah and that's not toasted it's not crispy but it's soft and
worn in the right way though but and goo 95 percent of bagels are in a state in which they need to
be toasted yeah yeah unless it's unless you got them right out of the oven within 10 minutes
yeah give it give it 50 and most people but that's like but that's like saying bananas peeled or
unpeeled the seeds you know what i mean like of course you'd always want it right out of the oven
i love this i love these banana seeds they're the shit yeah oh you waited too long it became a banana
when you when it's not fresh though yeah i toast toasted toasted for sure you want it hot
however it's supposed to be yeah except for steamed i'm not big on hot food steamed bagels
steamed bagels that's probably not a good fun cheer for food yeah just throw a hot dog in the
middle of it while you're steaming that's not that bad perfect that sounds delicious
poor fred that his dad would boil fruit what and it's just like what the flight i don't know
to get rid of the impurity spoiled fruit does it kill the bugs i don't know why i just never
heard of that i think it's like a health thing no it's not he thought it was a health thing
and he would eat huge you see boy i'm sorry but i saw this i saw this story today i saw the
story today on the facebook whatever story things it just says there's this brand of vegetarian
like no meat products that has a ton of meat in it that has a ton of meat and traces of human
meat what what get the fuck vegetarians shit you've been eating people you've been eating your
people and me and people get right this obviously bears mentioning like don't even look at what's in
army yeah no for sure but i don't see those stories the dolphin makes it there's a four percent
acceptable amount of rat tails in your food or yeah raccoon legs yeah bill's character don't
worry about it vegetarians would have it coming for years what's coming up uh channel
we got a special special halloween themed fisticuffs coming up for you
what persona for a read it's crazy and persona for that it was halloween at some point
it's scary in there they dressed up that's very scary where's her costume oh she's show show is
a little halloween kid that's crazy it's got this we're not doing ultimate well he's just
kidding we're actually dressing up in costumes to play place yeah there will be no camera so you
won't see us yeah but we'll feel it in spirit feel the ruffles of the costumes uh i guess everything
continues uh shit storm will end this week i think finishes this week dagans is gonna wrap up this
week 24 is the last episode under tails taking a break for a minute yeah because uh well life is
strange is not this week but it's uh it's the it's like saturday or monday it's it's late it's on
its way exactly sunday i'm by the by the end of the by the next podcast the shit storm will be over
and a new thing that is tertiary related to the storm will start it you can never start an lp out
of the shit storm we've done that multiple times oh well bog islands the shit our schedule is pretty
jacked so i don't know when it'll come but i hope that uh well matt and i robbed the bank recently
yeah i watched it proceeds i saw need to be some dumb shit uh i guess that's it then
so tomorrow tuesday is uh paris games week uh sony's conference so we had microsoft at games
com previously this is the same like tier of press yeah watch it if you want cool press conference
okay yeah that makes sense there's always fun to watch matt you're looking at it for anything this
week i have nothing coming this weekend okay there's nothing happening no no no no that's cool
did something happening for you personally i'm your personal life yes we have the um like that's
cool sports spinoff river city ransom game i forget what that one's called sports yes that was on
the docket nice fucking skipped it that is sorry the ps3 version of river city river city super
sports challenge all star special by arc system works yes is getting localized and coming out this
week on ps3 sport sports looks cool if it's river city looks really like sports in river city would
like kunio kunio sports yeah exactly cool it's good um that comes out this week wwe2k16 no there is
then therefore there's nothing worth anything coming out that's what i thought there was there was
something i'm looking forward to just going through hours and hours of people's beta footage to just
you're gonna do it it's all there it's all out of date there's nothing else there's nothing else
all that tech is worthless shoutouts to yeah darksiders to definitive edition which is coming out
oh that's that's the thing that's the thing that's coming out today i think it's friday actually no
shut up the 27th like unless they moved it back everything's coming out on friday either way
it's coming out this week it's by gunfire games who are a lot of the original guys uh at relic
not relic sorry at vigil who uh who made the game those guys are great because they've done a lot of
really cool stuff to improve this that there's rebalances and bug fixes and things and it looks
a bit better like they actually they redid the lighting higher resolution texture because they
have all the old stuff because they're the same guys okay that's what i was it doesn't often happen
that the original team gets to do the hd like remix version that's what i was looking forward to
because i have nothing else going on nothing else going on nothing going on this week
are you gonna be playing tits s c hit trails in the sky uh no like which had its miracle release
date i don't i i got like a couple hours on that first one and it's just not for me and that's
it bums me out uh november 7th we're going to be at geekfest which is a montreal convention
that's happening somewhere in montreal should be on november 7th yeah uh max obviously not
going to be around for that so i'm going to the moon of the honeys well that's it sounds like a
very sexy place that sounds like a that sounds like a hot ass place i have my fingers crossed it
will be yeah no you're just going to the movie moon that's where you're going that's after nothing
happens that's dope that's a good one too i don't even mind that so yeah uh we'll be there
uh we'll be doing a thing and uh you can find us men say hello yeah oh uh i guess because people
are gonna ask people always ask every time even though i mentioned it before yes we are gonna
do a let's watch a paris games week yeah so because i know people are gonna ask that yeah
yeah we're gonna do it all right sounds good yeah it's good that's a podcast all right i gotta set
my uh video camera cool all right well team break right so nothing happening no because we don't
want to touch it to his hands because it's weird nothing's gonna happen oh and fucking no no just
i'm looking forward to more reveals of indivisible characters because they're all really cool so far
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