Castle Super Beast - SBFC 123: We’re Really Japanese Towards Bias feat. Brennan Williams

Episode Date: December 15, 2015

This week we're joined by Brennan Williams, the @GREATBLACKOTAKU himself, and spend 3 hours trying to convince him to work time-travel angles into his upcoming wrestling storylines....

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Just want to give a special thanks to Lootcrate for sponsoring today's episode of The Friendcast. If you're a fan of anime, movies, comic books, video games, check them out. Every month they ship a box full of merch straight to your door for less than 20 bucks, and if you head on down to lootcrate.com slash super you save three bucks on top of that with your new subscription today. Thanks a lot, Lootcrate. Way better at this than Eli. There you go. Not everyone's a great sync tester. Yeah, it's because I don't live in the woods. Shots fired. Shots fired. You don't have to fire them back though and you can't fight them. He lives like more in like a marshy plain
Starting point is 00:00:55 shithole than the woods really. Yeah, not too far from the Houston though, I would assume. Do you think America's big? Yeah, America's big and Texas is big and Houston is big. America is big and full of terrors. Hey, so we're rolling and I would love to introduce our special guest this week, none other than Mr. Brennan Williams, aka Great Black Otaku, aka Marcellus Black, aka Better Wooly. What's popping? What's going on? What's going on, guys? How you doing, man? I'm doing great. I'm just happy to round off this spree of guest podcasting that's been going on. It just fell into place all at once. And we didn't get it on mic, but the moment you called it on Skype, we all got super jealous because what you guys can't see right now is Brennan's Skype icon
Starting point is 00:01:56 is a Sele 01 sound only logo and we're like, motherfucker. You all look at it and you're like, oh, he thought of the cool joke before we did. He did it first. Shit. It's the joke that nobody will ever see. Yeah, exactly. In general, Brennan seems really good at either meeting him or you'll see him write something on Twitter and you're like, motherfucker, got into that before we did it or damn it. But it's satisfying. It's satisfying knowing someone like this is going to save wrestling. Someone's doing it. Someone's doing it. Someone's doing it. It's going to be me. I'm going to do it, guys. I'm doing it. Good. Cool. So yeah, I guess for those who don't know, Brennan, we've talked about him a couple of times on the podcast before. He was in our
Starting point is 00:02:37 He's in our PAX East video. Exactly. You and him had a kumite. A little bit. A little bit. Brennan also contributed one of the WrestleMania intros. Yes. One of the best ones. Not to say we have favorites, but it was one of the best ones. We have favorites. More like the story where like, or Matt's like, hey, so I need you to kind of do like a promo, you know, like start doing this thing and that thing and then you just go, excuse me, are you trying to tell me how to cut a promo? Are you telling me? Well, at that point, I was still a football player. So I logically shouldn't know how to cut a promo at that point. And to be fair, there were some people that we very much had to tell how to cut a promo. That's true. What do I say? But the other thing
Starting point is 00:03:18 is that when we initially talked really briefly, and yeah, you made that joke. And then they were like, yeah, no, just, you know, take 30, like most people I just said, you know, take 30 seconds, just do whatever. And then he comes back at me and he's like, no, man, I can get some footage of me training, maybe I can get getting pumped up. And I was like, whoa, whoa, whoa, don't make it better than the video. I need that gym footage. I don't think we ever actually did this, but we were thinking of doing one of the intros that was just us on the couch watching. Did we do that? Yeah, you did. I didn't see that. With the mayonnaise, with the mayonnaise, we did do that one. Yeah, okay. Because that was that was basically real. That's not so that people like that enough that
Starting point is 00:03:55 there's fan art of that scene of me and Willie just in our wrestling games. Oh, he's too cool. Come on, how can I forget that? Yeah, man. Oh my god. So yo, Brandon, like, first off, Booker T, what's he like? Booker T is exactly like what you would think he's like. That's what I want to hear. That's what I like. Like, there's some people that like, you know, like, you know, it's a gimmick or whatever. This is a character they're playing. Booker's pretty much Booker. Like, that's, I mean, that's not even his fake name. That's his actual name. His name is Booker T. Huffman. So yeah, he's that's, I mean, that's the real deal. I don't think I think it's been like, probably a year or two since we've all said, like, wait a minute normally,
Starting point is 00:04:44 like real people. Anytime we say wait a minute from now on, wait a minute. It's too much fun, man. It's way too much fun. Yeah. That was that was the age of wait a minute. Yeah. He's also he's also really frightening because he's not necessarily in the gym all the time because he still travels with the show, obviously. Yeah. But when he is around and like you're, you know, you're doing your drills in the gym, in the ring or whatever. And all of a sudden you hear, hold it, hold it, freeze it, freeze it. Then like, you know, like you literally have to freeze for one. So it doesn't matter if you're mid moon salt, you're freezing in the sky. And then, you know, you're either in trouble or you're going to get complimented. So the the
Starting point is 00:05:30 tension is palpable. Okay. How hard was it to bite that football? Believe it or not, it was pre deflated. Oh, sorry. I hate to break kayfabe for you. Oh my god. That's crazy. I hate to break kayfabe for you, but they actually just put a needle in it and then popped it a little bit. Don't football players get in trouble for deflating balls or something? You would think, but they don't actually. It depends. But I was with the Patriots for all of two days, so I get away with it. It's still real to me. Damn it. Yeah. Eating footballs. Oh god. Yeah. No, like, basically, again, I was trying to get through it, but for those who
Starting point is 00:06:11 don't know, like he was introduced as better woolly because he was all he's also into like games and anime and shit, but also an NFL player and he's bigger and huge and like, and he's got the color dreads and whatnot. And then like to level that out, now he's going into the world of wrestling and is legit super doing it. And J.R. had like one of the sickest quotes and then walked and sang a pad. Oh yeah. It's the one that Matt keeps saying all the time. It's like, there's a few things you can't teach in school, like being six, seven. Yeah. Yeah, I love that. That's great. Brennan, when are you announcing that you're also directing the new reboot series? Oh god. I need to outdo everything every time forever. That's awesome. No, I think, I think when one
Starting point is 00:06:59 woolly makes it, we all make it. I think it's a pretty united community of woollies, the council of woollies. The council. That's it. It's the other way it works. There was the, there was the Black Otaku council, but now there's a sub council in the Black Otaku council. It's like, it's like Rick and Morty, you know, the council. Exactly. Exactly. Now, as long as you can get into the ring at some point and just push Chie and dump on Takahata live in front of an audience, that'd be great. Oh yeah. Oh yeah. And actually, the funny thing about that is after the great waifu war of 2015, Takahata has been like helping me with character development stuff. So we found, we found carbon, we found common ground in the garbage status of Rese and we've been working together
Starting point is 00:07:49 ever since. Okay, that's super smart because if you, there's like, don't ask us, but you need to ask Takahata is the guy to ask is Takahata came up with two of our Russell Mania personas drunk. Yeah. I don't know what to call myself. I've got like all these lame names and Liam, like we just call him John Cena, maybe he goes, you should just be the punishment. And I'm like, oh, that's pretty good. And Cena, he should be unseenable. And I was like, oh, yeah, that was really good. And like, are you drunk? And he's like, yes. He's got a really good like wrestling mind, which is like super helpful. So obviously, you can't you can't give away things before they hit and happen. Is there time travel? We haven't introduced the time traveling arc yet.
Starting point is 00:08:40 I would like to know if the Shogun of the Row has the power of the glow. The Shogun of the Row does in fact have the power of the glow. Yes. Okay. So you guys, I know I've tried to throw this reference out at them before and it's never stuck. But it should have been homework before this podcast because it's very important. The Last Dragon, it's this fucking amazing old movie. Oh, The Last Dragon? You mean the animated movie? No, no, it's a live action movie. No, I think it's Flight of the Dragon. It's talking about the golden child of Eddie Murphy. I'm talking about like, it's actually not that much different. Basically, black people trying to do like kung fu style. It's halfway between a black
Starting point is 00:09:23 exploitation movie. I know about Shonuf. Shonuf is the Shogun of Harlem. Exactly. And the main character is the master. Shonuf, exactly. And the main character is Bruce Leroy. And he is The Last Dragon. He has the power of the glow. Okay. That's where it comes from in Double Dragon Neon. The power is called the glow. The glow 100%. Yeah. And it's a fantastic, you'll watch it. It's corny, but it's great. It is a perfect wrestling gimmick. And when you go see Shonuf, even to this day, some of the faces he made with his lackeys rolling out and shit, I'm just like, oh my god, yeah, no, bring that back. Tap into that as much as possible, man. Yeah, that's the plan. That's definitely the plan.
Starting point is 00:10:11 Then also the plan is that depending on how your future and your path goes, can I expect to hear Michael Cole going, this technique that he's using, I believe he calls it Haman Breathing. Is that ever gonna happen? And I want to see you in the ring. I'm really, I'm really trying to push as many low key anime references to make Michael Cole and JBL say, like, like, I want to have, I want to have like, I want to name my finishing moves like Third Impact and like the Niko Niko knee and stuff like that. Dude, the Niko Niko knee, that is fucking strong. That is fucking strong. Holy shit. And when you, when you, when you, if you have like a hulking up phase, it's called Doki Doki Panic.
Starting point is 00:11:00 I believe this is called Doki Doki Panic, Michael. Just a bunch of confused announcers. Oh god, I can't wait. I don't know about Haman Breathing, but I believe some call it the Ripple. Yeah, I just want to be the anime wrestler that everybody wants to see. Exactly. And I honestly, like, for real, the fact that like Xavier Woods is already, like, doing a lot of game reference stuff and like, and people are tapping into that and going, like, yeah, we are aware of this. We know what that is. Do this plan like Final Fantasy music on trumpet like a couple of weeks ago.
Starting point is 00:11:35 Exactly, pushing it. There's space for that, man. Yeah, there's a place. So I think, and I think I am big enough to get away with it. I think I'm in the perfect sweet spot of being in the wrong type of body for my mindset. Perfect. So this is episode 123 of the podcast. What's your esoteric fact for 123? This motherfucker. You can tell who actually listens to our podcast, unlike some people that are named after rabbits. I'm actually really kind of pissed off because now I'm not going to have anything to listen
Starting point is 00:12:13 to at the gym on Wednesday. Oh, just listen to it again and think, oh man, I'm so cool. Yeah. No, I hate the sound of my voice, so I'm never going to listen to this. Welcome to any time. Well, the year 123 was the year that China corrected their calendar to account for the four seasons. How could you fuck that up? China, the wrestler? No, yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly. Chinese scientist Zhang Heng corrects the calendar to bring it in line with the four seasons. Well, good job. I hope they fired all the old ones.
Starting point is 00:12:48 What did you, what was it before that? The three was eight. It's an abstract time and calendar. Summer, spring, and bad part. Man, this feels like tomorrow, I guess. In the islands. In the islands. It is just dry and rainy season. Yeah, no, it's just fair. Yeah. But good job for doing that in the year. Good job, scientist. That's the way to do it. A 1,800-year-old Chinese scientist. You get into a history book for some time. I hope his ancestors are honoring him.
Starting point is 00:13:22 Probably. Continually. Yeah, so why don't we start out with your week, Mr. Williams? What are you up to? What are you up to? What's going on? What's popping? What am I up to? Well, I don't do a lot because kind of the way my training schedule goes is I go in usually during the week at like 4.30 and then I train to be a wrestler until like 11 o'clock. And that's pretty much the gist of it. I watch my daughter for the rest of the day, so I don't do a whole lot except for, you know, I watched some, I watched some animes last week. I caught up on my one punchman. Yeah, it's pretty cool.
Starting point is 00:14:04 It's great. And I almost teared up when Movement Rider was, you know, like struggling, having the struggles. So that made me tear up a little bit. And I caught up on a couple other things, too, that I was trying to watch this season that I didn't love as much, but... On one punch, man. Like, there's some moments where it's like, it's not at all, it's not a complaint, but it's just, it works better on a page than it does in Movement. Did you see the latest episode? No. Because the latest episode has the best panel to anime transition of any moment I have ever seen ever. Okay. Is it the bit where he punches him? No. Is it a punching part? It's the bit where he stands there. It's the best punch in the series.
Starting point is 00:14:50 Okay. No, it's the bit where he just stands there with the rubble flying past his head. Okay. Yeah, you kind of get the sense that it's hard for, I mean, the way that the manga is kind of set up is it's kind of, it is difficult to kind of put it on to animation, you know? So it's kind of like, what are you going to lose when you animate it? Gag timing is something different. When it was drawn, I don't think he was like, this is going to be an anime one day. I didn't account for that. It was a fucking web comic. Yeah, it was super nothing at the time. Now, like, everyone's avatar is Saitama. Can you believe next week is like the, like they're titling it the final episode,
Starting point is 00:15:27 because they're not sure if they're going to get that second season? Are they really not? This is honestly a good place to end it, because the manga's not as good after this, after this arc closes. Oh, but a little more. No, no, I feel you. And like, when I, when I finished this arc, I was super excited, like in the manga, but it hasn't gotten back up to this level. That's why they should then make up their own stories. Anime's always better. It might be better. Maybe. It always turns out better. Stop it.
Starting point is 00:15:55 I'm always pro making things short and just cutting it off while it's good. Yeah, exactly. Karas. So like, this is probably a good place to stop it, unless the manga like. Before, before we end up, before we're getting one punch man shippuden. Basically. First arc's still good. It stayed good. Dude.
Starting point is 00:16:14 Yeah, but that's, it's, is it really that long? Or is it just taking really long? No, it's dude. I read it all in a week. It's long. Someone told me Golgoth 13's still going. What? That's crazy. Do you ever, do you ever find something that like you find out is still going? And then it's, you're just like, wow, I remember that when I was a baby. Like, like, you know that, you know, there's like a Twitter account.
Starting point is 00:16:37 There's like Twitter accounts like, is blank still going? Like, is that still dead? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. No, it's, it's crazy, man. Yes, everybody who died is still dead. That's, that's not necessary. You need to be sure. Sure.
Starting point is 00:16:54 Golgoth 13's still going though. Someone told me. That's crazy. I believe it. That's bullshit, but I believe it. No, but what were you saying about like the other shows you were watching? What else was I watching? I was watching, I have a list prepared. Okay.
Starting point is 00:17:13 We got some letters and I was going to read one of them later, but a bunch of people were asking Liam to maybe do the roundup. The anime roundup? I never felt like it. Oh, we could round up some animators. If you're going to take that flag right now. Well, no, I actually haven't watched. The only thing that I've watched to like, not completion,
Starting point is 00:17:30 but as far as it's gone has been one punch man. Okay. But I also got a little bit of Mr. Osamatsu and a little bit of God Eater and a little bit of beautiful bones. Beautiful bones is really cool. Yeah, it is cool. It's, well, it's, it's just bones like that TV show on NBC. But still, it's cool.
Starting point is 00:17:52 Does it have David Mori on us? It does not. I kind of wish they didn't do like the little like almost like magical girl transformation bullshit. No, I love it. It's a brain blast. It's like Jimmy Neutron. It's gorgeous, but I wish they would have just done it once and we're not.
Starting point is 00:18:05 I need to fly through my whale skeleton so that I can see, see bones. Is that the one where I saw that amazing WebM of the girl walking and all these skeleton creatures are surrounding her? Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's the one. Yeah. The animation quality and that was fucking ridiculous. That's the sequence I'm referring to where they do that every episode.
Starting point is 00:18:21 Every episode? Yeah, happens all the time. It's a, it literally is a magical girl transformation thing. Yeah. Yeah. Really, really cool. I feel like I wouldn't, if I had made that, I wouldn't want it to just be shown once. Now we spent the money.
Starting point is 00:18:32 I would want it ground into people's eyes. It's not going to be shown. You got, that's how they do it, you know. I agree with it, but I was just like, show Hitler jumping out of that window. Keep showing it. Did you watch The Perfect Insider? I did not.
Starting point is 00:18:44 Okay. Well, I can't tell you anything about it, but it's really, really good. That's the way it is, that's Russell Crowe. Yeah, it was Russell Crowe. Exactly. Give me, give me a shot. Russell Crowe is the best anime. Mystery.
Starting point is 00:18:55 Mystery? It's the, it's a murder mystery. Oh, I'm in. Of The Perfect Insider. I'm in. I'm in. I'm on board. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:19:02 It's really. Then I will add it to my cue. It's cool. It's a cool show. But then I won't be told anything about it. Sorry. It's playing just message me. Cause like it instantly ruins itself.
Starting point is 00:19:13 Cause you start thinking too much about it. Sorry. It's playing just message me. Pat, be angry about Star Trek for me like right now. Do it. You can do that. You don't like, you don't like the fast and the furious Star Trek. We'll get there.
Starting point is 00:19:25 We'll get there. We'll get there. We'll, we'll don't worry about it. We'll don't worry about it. The light speed and the logical. No. I know it's, it's not unanimated. It's more just kind of back on what you're talking about with like,
Starting point is 00:19:40 like wrestling training and stuff. But like house taking bumps and like, and actually like hitting the ropes and stuff. Cause like I hear that the ropes really hurt. To doing like a ton of Irish rips and whips in a row. Yeah. I guess I could just talk about wrestling training. Cause that's the coolest thing going on in my life right now.
Starting point is 00:19:59 Yeah. Everything like the smallest things hurt so much more than you would expect. Like the things that you see guys do all the time. Hitting the ropes sucks, especially in this gym, their ropes are made of like actual steel wire. Yeah. WWE actually has nice soft ropey ropes. But in here we train on,
Starting point is 00:20:18 we train on sandpaper and barbed wire. But it makes you tough. But yeah, it makes you tougher character. You get those, you get those welts on your back and stuff. And it makes you feel like you're in the business. Bumping wise, they suck. But you get used to them. And I actually love it.
Starting point is 00:20:38 Because as somebody who's six, seven, I'm not going to take a lot of bumps. Like especially here. So if somebody knocks me down, it's going to be a big deal. And I'd like to, you know, if you watch a Brock Lesnar, Brock Lesnar really bumps around really well. As opposed to like some other bigger guys.
Starting point is 00:20:54 So I kind of, if I'm going to take bumps, I want to bump like I died. Yeah. And I, yeah. So I enjoy that much about it. Okay. Okay. No, I'm just curious.
Starting point is 00:21:04 Because that's one thing is like I, whenever I'd see dudes just like running back and forth on those ropes. That's like, that looks fucking painful, man. Well, you want to know the worst bump that I took. Oh, yeah. Was on day two when I was learning how to run the ropes. And I hit the rope and the turnbuckle exploded.
Starting point is 00:21:24 And you took a bump from the ring. And I took a bump from the ring to the ground. And I nearly died and I had to reconsider my, you know, my career choice because I like flipped over and people said that I look like, you know, I did it gracefully like the undertaker does, but it didn't feel gracefully because I like hit my head on like the side of the ring, which is the hardest part of the ring.
Starting point is 00:21:50 You did that on purpose and it was a good sell. No, no, time to start a feud with the ring. Have to make the ring look good. Well, no, I beat the ring. The ring is broke. So after that, after that, when I, in promo classes, I just said, I'm uncontainable by mortal rings. See that, that's like when you punch a guy in the head
Starting point is 00:22:08 and his head explodes. Kind of like that. It hurts, but you won. You did. Yeah. That's a good match. That's good psychology for the ring to get the upper head on you for a bit.
Starting point is 00:22:17 Yeah. Yeah, for a little bit. And then, you know, I'll get my heat and then I'll make the comeback. It's the comeback of a lifetime. Really? Yeah. When I suplexed the ring.
Starting point is 00:22:27 Oh my God, dude, if you could ever make that happen. Well, now? The ring is super heavy. Dude, it looks like it's super heavy. What you got? I'm trying to imagine it like just like a tight and trot entrance for the ring. The spinning, traumatic camera angles,
Starting point is 00:22:43 zooming in on the different parts of it. All I could think about right now is a gimmick in which like the ring is too strong right now. So you have to time travel back to when the ring was young. It was weaker. And it's a little tiny here to sluplex. And it's just like a baby ring, like the size of like a cake.
Starting point is 00:23:02 Just throw it out of the window. It's parent rings around it. You stop it in front of the parent rings. The parent rings are just crying. The parent rings are actually the old like AWA and like NWA rings from the 70s, like the 70s and 80s. I have to go back in time and kill your ancestors. There you go.
Starting point is 00:23:20 There you go. So do you remember when John Morrison... That's free, Brennan. That's free. That's free. I'm running it down. I got my notepad. Brennan, remember John Morrison had an entrance
Starting point is 00:23:28 where they were able to slow down time? Yeah, he slows down time and his hair flows with the wind. Somehow live? I never really understood. I guess there was a bit of a delay. But there was magic. It was magic. It was magic.
Starting point is 00:23:39 Could you talk about speed lines? Could I run to the ring and have them put speed line effects? Oh God. There's so many possibilities. The potential is really untapped. It's limited, limitless. Floating, menacing, onomatopoeia coming off of you as you walk down the road.
Starting point is 00:24:00 Yeah, I want my pre-debut promo packages to be no talking, just like my shadow in a dark room with the menacing. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, it's too... There's too much. There's too much. We could talk all day about that.
Starting point is 00:24:17 We can. We can. Yes. Anything else before we continue around the circle here? Well, I made my live debut Saturday. Yeah, we saw some of that footage. Yeah, I think some of that footage was on the internet. And that went not perfect.
Starting point is 00:24:37 But everybody said I did a good job. So I'll take that. My music cut off, my mic cut out. So everything was going wrong. And I had found out, I guess the thing with wrestling is you're not supposed to know what you're doing until an hour before you do it. Right, that sounds about right.
Starting point is 00:24:55 Like very active. Yeah, so there was a big... I found out that I was going to be making a big announcement last week. And I was like, hey, what's this big announcement about that I'm going to be making? And everybody was like, I don't know. You'll probably talk and maybe somebody will come out
Starting point is 00:25:12 and you'll body slam them or something. I was like, cool. And I was like, I didn't end up body slamming anybody. But I did talk and I threw out some t-shirts. But you didn't fall through a wall and have your helmet fall off, though? No, that was on the scale of debuts. It was much better than the Shockmaster.
Starting point is 00:25:30 It was not a shocking debut. Okay, you did not shock me. Shockmaster was too soon. Because if Shockmaster came now and he was just that he's a fuck up, perfect. He was a man before his time. Yeah, exactly. Like the Shockmaster character is basically Jezebeth.
Starting point is 00:25:48 Yeah, pretty much. That's why you worked for Jezebeth in the ZWR. That's for Stormfielder's, man. Yeah, Stormfielder's. Yeah. Okay. All right, so Liam, why don't you take it from there? Why don't you tag in?
Starting point is 00:26:02 Yeah, Liam, tag. Ow my hand, even from states away. Your hand is way too big and painful. So I was at PSX last week. It was super fun. There was way more fans than I expected. I met up with the Hey Video Games crew. The Hey Video Games crew.
Starting point is 00:26:21 That's what they called. And they didn't bring dogs, so. But that was fun. Oh, the Hello Video Games guys. Super fun to hang out with. Yeah, okay. Is that like the Mexican bootleg version? Yeah, exactly.
Starting point is 00:26:32 The Hi Games of videos. Wouldn't that be a Hello Video Games? Oh, no. Hello, VVHSs. Hello Video Games. What's Video Games? Salutations, video games. Video Jogos, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:26:42 Jogo? Jogo. Jogo. Hola Jogo. Hola Jogos. Yeah, hola Jogos. Can you play the Mexican hats? Let's follow shot pictures of Max, please.
Starting point is 00:26:53 I played like tons and tons of games at PSX, but there were three that I found really, really cool. I played Riggs again. I played a ton of VR games. I must have played like 10 different VR games. Riggs is still the most interactive. That is the sports machine game, correct? The sports machine shooter.
Starting point is 00:27:11 Yeah, I mean the shooter. And sports. Last time I spoke about it like a couple of months ago, when we went to PAX Prime. That's correct. I wasn't too articulate on what the thing was that made it feel really good, but now I figured it out.
Starting point is 00:27:23 What is it? It's, so left stick is move around. Right stick is to rotate your robot and everything. But then- On the waist axis, right? Yeah, exactly. Exactly. But then your head is effectively a third stick
Starting point is 00:27:36 that you use simultaneously. It's like a- And basically, if I look over there, I can still walk that way and turn my mech that way. Like a human. On the opposite way. But as I look that way, my guns will point that way. Well, don't say that.
Starting point is 00:27:52 Describe the area. But yes, yeah, yeah. Effectively, like you have a third stick that is your aim. That's just you. On top of your full body movement and rotation. It's like what games like ARMA do with IR pointers. Well, the baseball catch. Or if you take it back to mech where you're two,
Starting point is 00:28:07 right, you could have your cockpit facing one way, aim, shoot another thing, and turn your pilot head. But obviously with VR, it's way more natural. With VR, it's way more natural. And the third stick doesn't sound completely impossible to use. Because it makes sense that if you were in a big robot, you'd be turning the look at shit. But that wouldn't affect the control of the robot.
Starting point is 00:28:24 Yeah, and since the aim is tied to where you're looking, as opposed to the mech's facing, that's what makes it interesting. Because your aim moves independently. And like, yeah, mech where you're walking in cardinal directions. And a game like this, you're in the air dashing and doing crazy shit. Yeah, one of the mechs has a double jump. One of them has a hover.
Starting point is 00:28:40 The other one just moves really fast. There you go. One of the other features I forgot to talk about last time, because I don't know, it slipped my mind, is three of the buttons on the controller are just mapped to changing what your mech is doing. So if you press triangle, you enter healing mode, and your mech will like, regen their health.
Starting point is 00:28:56 If you press square, you enter attack mode, and your attack increases drastically. If you press circle, your mech enters speed mode, and you move way quicker, but you don't have the other benefits. And basically, it's universal. All mechs have it. So basically, you're constantly switching between these three modes, running around as quick as you can,
Starting point is 00:29:15 becoming powerful when it's time to attack and healing yourself when battle's over. And it's this constant, this loop, that's also tied into the loop of killing opponents to go into overdrive mode, where you have all three of them active. But the only way to score a point is to dunk yourself through the hoop while you're in overdrive mode.
Starting point is 00:29:34 Right. Yes. So it's not even about killing to kill more. It's about killing to dunk through the hoop. To get the point. It's you kill anyone, and you become a flag. Yeah, basically. It's a really, really fun gameplay loop.
Starting point is 00:29:47 It's really enjoyable. I can't wait to play it. So what you say is probably the killer app for PlayStation VR? Yeah, without a doubt. It's the most game that any of these VR games are. A lot of them still struggle with movement, period. So it's going to be a while. It's going to be a while.
Starting point is 00:30:00 These are early days. Until Dawn thing there? They did. My girlfriend played it because I didn't want to shit myself publicly. No, I don't think it's that scary. Yeah, you are a coward. The jump scares, she said, were way scarier than anything in Until Dawn. OK.
Starting point is 00:30:13 Well, because it's up in your face. There were bits where I was watching her play the whole thing. There were bits where you get to a place where the cart stops, and you'd be like, oh, OK. And you look around for something, and you turn back, and there's a monster in your face, and it screams at you and shit. So Matt.
Starting point is 00:30:29 So Matt, Matt the game. But it's apparently, and I mean, it looked to me like it was way scarier than Until Dawn, but in a different way. Because it's jump scares in your face constantly. Not Hybrow horror, but yeah. Hybrow horror is never ridden. Yeah. I played Reds Infinite.
Starting point is 00:30:48 OK, I need you to describe this next part whispering, please. Whispering. Just whisper it to me. So I went. No, you need to speak into it. Yeah, exactly. So I played Reds Infinite, and boy. Throw out my copies of Rez.
Starting point is 00:31:06 Or destroy all other copies of Rez. They're obsolete. They're just obsolete. So this is just Rez. It's Rez HD effectively, but you can put on a headset, and it just immerses you like you think it always should have. Even without VR, this would still make other versions of Rez obsolete. Because it has more levels.
Starting point is 00:31:26 Because it's got more levels, and it's at a higher resolution. It's to my understanding that you can play this game without a headset. Yeah. And you can just play it like Rez. But you are now the hacker that's actually diving in. It's me. Where, this is really important, the extra level, where is it placed on the timeline of a version?
Starting point is 00:31:46 At the end. After. After. Oh. Yeah. OK. That's exciting. Yes it is.
Starting point is 00:31:52 And Miz said at PSX in an interview, he said he wants to do stuff that they could not have even thought of on the PS2. For a second, I thought you meant the Miz. The Miz, exactly. No, but so he's going to go places with that, hopefully. Well they suffer your expectations here, all right? He's basically saying I'm going to make a level that's better than fears the mind killer. Which is what?
Starting point is 00:32:15 That. What? That. What is that? That may not happen. That is not real. That may not be possible. So set your expectations accordingly.
Starting point is 00:32:24 It'll probably be very good. And I know that he's not on that Child of Eden fucking stint anymore. Yeah, no. Back to Rez. All right. Back to Rez. Back to Rez. It was really good.
Starting point is 00:32:38 And like you can just, so how the controls work was you could just look, and the center of your vision becomes the pointer, as opposed to the right stick. But you can switch back at any moment, back and forth and back and forth. And I found myself doing both in the levels. And it was just, it was easy and fun to play. And if you already know the levels, you'll zip through it just because like, hey, it's still Rez. But the experience is, again, it feels like this was always how it was meant to be played.
Starting point is 00:33:03 And your head is just the camera, and your head is the pointer. Right? Yeah. Your target. The stick is the pointer. Okay. But you can just, you can use your head and just take over the pointer with the center of your vision. And that will target things as well.
Starting point is 00:33:15 Yeah, exactly. Because remember in VR, like you're not looking at a screen in front of your face, you're looking at a circle where the point of your vision is basically. A lot of bosses will be a lot easier because of much. Oh, yeah. I found myself zipping through it because I know the patterns. Yeah. So it was just like, swing my head there, swing my head there.
Starting point is 00:33:33 But it was really immersive. Like, it was a totally different experience. It was really, really cool. All right. The other game, the other game that I thought was really impressive, was Severed by Drinkbox, who made Cochamera, of course. So this is their upcoming Vita game. I recommend, if you're in the mall, the Source by the Movie Theater
Starting point is 00:33:53 has Severed set up on their Vita demo kit for whatever reason. So if you're in the area, I really recommend you try. Okay. Super, super good. That's the weirdest thing. No, I know. But I walked by and I was like, huh, okay. Yeah, the huge crowd of kids that go to the Source.
Starting point is 00:34:09 No, I know. But I'm just saying, the demo is available to try for you guys. So it's like a first person dungeon crawler where you go through dungeons, right? And it's very much Drinkbox's aesthetic, I guess. Though the game's a lot darker. It's about the themes of loss, as opposed to Guacamelee, where the only theme of loss is the bad ending, but everything else is just...
Starting point is 00:34:30 Yay, Mexico adventure! Like, Guacamelee looks fantastic, but everything I've seen of Severed, their use of color, is just top, not A++. Severed is just blowing it out of the water in those regards. Game runs perfectly. The combat, that's like Infinity Blade's combat, is way deeper and more fun than Infinity Blade's.
Starting point is 00:34:49 The enemies are really varied from the game. How could that even be possible? I was made to believe that Infinity Blade was the greatest video game ever made. Some people would lead you to believe that. Okay. But it's not even greatest. I was told that nothing would ever surpass Infinity Blade. Besides, if I punch out.
Starting point is 00:35:03 That too, but every punch out managed to do it. But Severed's really cool. And one of the really cool mechanics is you can walk into a room and find an enemy in front of you, right? Yeah. And start fighting it. And another enemy will appear, like, on your side.
Starting point is 00:35:16 And they'll have a little UI indicated. It says there's one there. And you'll counter one's attack. And then you'll, like, hit the stick and flip to them and counter their attack. Okay, yeah. You'll be fighting, like, four or five enemies at the same time, bouncing around.
Starting point is 00:35:28 And it works really well. It was never jarring or anything. Maybe it's just me. But I couldn't remember at the time. But now that you're mentioning it, it's like, the main character from Severed, Sasha. Sasha, yeah. Yeah, like, I remember when I first saw Agena
Starting point is 00:35:42 and I kind of got vibes. Yeah. And I couldn't remember what they, what it was to. But it was that. But it was to this game. It was to Severed, 100%. No, it's really cool. And I can't remember exactly what the text was,
Starting point is 00:35:54 but you enter the first level and it says, like, you're in a place exactly like your home, but it's not your home. And, like, you're following your Severed arm around and stuff. Like, it's really creepy, really cool stuff. I saw you in the dream and it was you with your face, but it wasn't you. It wasn't you, yeah, exactly.
Starting point is 00:36:11 Now, Liam, let's be real. All that's bullshit. All that's bullshit. No, it's not. How ugly is Andy Bogard? Andy Bogard's a fucking uggo. I'll tell you what. I'll tell you what.
Starting point is 00:36:23 So, like, so I played it. Okay, okay. I love, I, I actually legitimately love. This is all we cared about when Liam came at the pool. Say, Liam got to play this. Yeah, all of that was nice, but tell us what we all really want to know. No, you know what?
Starting point is 00:36:37 Let's take a word from our sponsors. Okay. Do you love books but never have time to read them? Of course. That's the way that this, this thing starts, but quite frankly, I don't think we need to go with. Willie, I can barely hear you. You need to speak louder so that you are more audible.
Starting point is 00:36:58 I thought about that like, like for the past 10 minutes. Kill yourself. That's what I, yay. It's the best I could get. No, we don't always workshop winners, you know. Look, real talk is every time I hit the road, I go grab an audible book. I literally just talked about it a week ago on the podcast.
Starting point is 00:37:14 I, what did I grab? You were literally actually using it as a human being. Yes. And I grabbed the Colin Quinn book, the coloring book, a comedian solves race relations in America. And that shit was amazing. And Colin Quinn is not he certified to do that. He solved it.
Starting point is 00:37:29 And it's over. It's over. It's over. Race relations done. No racial issues anymore. You know, and it all happened in four hours. And that was the exact time it took to fly down to LA over to LA and back.
Starting point is 00:37:41 It's crazy. Why didn't anyone think of this before? So yeah, audible audio books actually super useful for real. They didn't say work. That you download and then somebody tells you the books. It's not even just, it's a condensed book, right? It's like a book pill that you swallow in your ear. It's like a book pill you swallow in the ear.
Starting point is 00:37:59 Exactly. It's the ear canal. It's easy. Now here's the thing. I like that book, but if you don't like that book, or you want other books, or you need more, you have over how many? Do they have how many?
Starting point is 00:38:10 A hundred thousand. A hundred and eighty thousand. A thousand books. See, this is tough because every time we do these reads, that number actually seems to increase. That's crazy. That doesn't even increase. So like, we never have a chance of ever getting your books.
Starting point is 00:38:24 When we started, they had like 40 books. Like, the rate of growth is bad. And those Indiana Jones books. Yeah, exactly. And a couple of Goosebumps. Those were good favorites, man. They were, like, I think they got Larry King to read the Bible, and then they just started from there.
Starting point is 00:38:36 Really? They got Larry King to read the Bible. You take Audible, and you listen to Goosebumps books overnight, and it makes you think things are creepier into your day-to-day life. It's really cool. Super good. Also, they've got a great Listen Guarantee. It's what it's called.
Starting point is 00:38:50 Or it's like, basically, if you don't like a book, you can just, like, go out and want it. Oh, that makes sense. And that's it. You can trade it for anything else. Nope, no problem. Or if you just don't like the person reading the book. Yeah, exactly.
Starting point is 00:38:59 You can just go now. I want to listen to Lewis Black's book, but I hate the person reading it, Lewis Black. Can you go to a bookstore and just throw the book back at them that you don't want and grab another one you want? I have done that. I don't know, Oli. I'm not sure if I was supposed to do that.
Starting point is 00:39:15 Maybe the price might make a difference. I don't know. But I tell you what you can do. You can do that with Audible. What's harder? Even if that might exist in the real world. Even if maybe that's his thing. The only thing is that it's easier to do
Starting point is 00:39:28 because you don't have to throw the heavy book. Yeah, of course. You don't have to lug it all the way back there. Of course. With all the tree-murdering aura and bad negativity you've pulled onto yourself. The books are heavy, and I am puny. Digital books weigh nothing.
Starting point is 00:39:41 Once the tree's cut down, you've ruined it already. At audible.com, 30-day trial, you go get it by heading over to, actually, audiblepodcast.com. Slash best friends. Do that one. That's a better one. Yeah, that will work instead of not. That's audiblepodcast.com.
Starting point is 00:39:58 Slash best friends. That's the one. You get 30 days to try them out, see what you like. Maybe one day there'll be an audio book of JoJo, and it's a guy describing... So then they posed. Oh my god. Then posed.
Starting point is 00:40:12 That would be worth it just for the soundtrack that plays motion. Who would read it? It would actually himself. I don't know if I'd read it, but I sure know I'd listen to it. They posed! Clint Eastwood, if they can get to him before he dies. Not bad.
Starting point is 00:40:26 So this gay guy walks over, it's crazy. Just get David Bowie himself. Unlike Clint Eastwood, David Bowie will live for it. You have vanilla ice to it, you have Fred Durst to it, you have Santana to it. But that doesn't exist yet. Audible, that one's free. That idea's free.
Starting point is 00:40:44 Yeah. Get on it. Thanks, Audible. Thanks, Audible. Thank you. Liam, open that box. I got a fucking box here. I'm shaking it.
Starting point is 00:40:52 I hope it's not the teacup crate or that's all broken. That's all gone. Why would they send a bunch of fragile ass teacups? This is the China air crate. No, no, stop. John Doe has the advantage here. Oh no. Don't open it.
Starting point is 00:41:05 I'm opening it. Can you put that to me? Can you flip the knife away, please? No, this knife belongs right in that object on your table. Safely put it. You can hold it away. You don't know how to fold the knife? I know how to fold the knife.
Starting point is 00:41:16 Okay. Now is the box time. He's careful with it, unlike some people. Now is the box time. You're telling me to put down the knife. I cut myself up. Okay, hand me the knife. I have like three punisher knives at home.
Starting point is 00:41:25 Guys, we're supposed to be doing an ad read here So we're opening up this knife box. We've got some shredder glasses. Oh, cool. Which I think would look perfect on you guys. This is the combat box. This is the combat box. Dude, I can find people more easily with this.
Starting point is 00:41:38 We've got a cute butt deadly. Oh yeah, I know. It totally looks like it's for children. What's that? A cute butt deadly blizzard figurine. Is it Diablo? Who is it? Who's the?
Starting point is 00:41:48 It could be Kerrigan or Diablo. Oh, let me see that. Or Merlok or Varriant. Or Merlok. A variety of characters. I like Sarah. She's cool. Also sliding over to Pat is your Vault Boy bobblehead.
Starting point is 00:42:01 Oh dude, seriously? I need all of these that I can get my hands on. There's not enough of a million of them. Also going to Pat is the Hunger Games Mockingjay pin. What is the Mockingjay? Which I know he is a huge man now. That huge. Is that the leader?
Starting point is 00:42:15 The person who's like, is that a flower? That's Katniss's logo. She's the big boss man. That's her reboot pin. Gotcha. A collection of what looks to be like 11 various Blizzard pins from all sorts of your games. It's an overwatch.
Starting point is 00:42:28 This bobblehead is nice. I'm just going to stick this right over on your TV. Right on the TV. Right on your TV monitor. I'm now up to two Fallout bobbleheads. When I think of combat, I think of Blizzard. We've got, of course, the... Oh no, they have that mobile going on right now.
Starting point is 00:42:41 Where's their fighting game? Their fighting game's coming. It's coming. It's called Overwatch. It's not Overwatch, it's show. It uses a slightly different control scheme. We've got, of course, the monthly magazine and pin. And we'll watch the icon on the pin.
Starting point is 00:42:52 Let's see. The icon on the pin, of course, represents combat. And it is a... I'm trying to get to it. Double Decker Battle Bus. All right. I know we had a whole thing with the knife. Someone give me a knife.
Starting point is 00:43:04 Here you go. And this one, I, of course... We actually know it's the right way to hand somebody a knife. I'm, of course, going to give this to Matt. It is Street Fighter Hyper-Leaning by Udon, the comic. Straight into Matt's hands. I was just going to hand it to you, Matt. Relax.
Starting point is 00:43:20 I'm sorry, it's a Street Fighter thing, so... I had all the comics. It's fine. What's inside the box? What's inside the box is the wasteland. Oh, that's really cool. That's actually pretty neat. I'm playing with the perspective there.
Starting point is 00:43:32 So that's what you get in, uh... That's a good representation of what a combat... Oh, it's Arthas. That's who it is. Oh, you got Arthas. Is it white? Yeah, I got Arthas. That's a good one to get.
Starting point is 00:43:44 So, if you want something like that shipped to your door, head on down to lootcrate.com, uh, slash super, and enter the promo code super, and you save three bucks on your new subscription, which is already less than 20 bucks a month. It's crazy. It's combat. Go check it out.
Starting point is 00:44:00 Thanks, Loot Crate. Thank you, Loot Crate. Thanks, Loot Crate. Thank you for combat. This is a good bobblehead. I like it. All right, Liam. So you walked up to the machine that said the King of Fighters 2000.
Starting point is 00:44:12 First, I walked over to KOF 2000 in the PS2 backwards compatibility section. You know how to do this. Because I needed to make sure that I had a point of reference. We wouldn't have even done that. And I looked it up and I knew that game wasn't like a great KOF game, but I just needed a point of reference. 2000's fine. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:44:28 So I played 2000 a little bit, whatever. And then I went to 14, got in line. That was one of the longest lines all weekend. Yeah, I bet. Everybody needed to know. Everybody needed to know. And I played it and I watched a lot of people play it in line, and it plays just like I remember 13 playing.
Starting point is 00:44:44 Okay. I only played 13 a little bit, but it played better than 2000. That's for fucking sure. Yep. There was an interview that just happened this past week where they talked to the director of the game and said how this is like a mix of a brand new people
Starting point is 00:44:59 that have never worked on a KOF game and a mix of really, really old staffers. It's a totally new team. Yeah. Art of fighting and Fatal Fury developers. Yeah, Art of fighting. Oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:45:09 Art of fighting. And the producer worked on Fatal Fury, I think. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I remember them saying, it's like we want to keep the feel of 13, but we want to get away from some of the more absurd stuff, so that custom combo stuff that Joel is going to drive in 13. That shit's gone.
Starting point is 00:45:23 We're back to like maximum where you just pop it. Bring back line system. All right. Yeah, no, but like what you're saying is definitely corroborated by a lot of SRK posts and feedback coming in where the systems in KOF 14 are like some of the best they've had over the years. It's all really, I just know that.
Starting point is 00:45:38 Being brought back together. Yeah. I saw some footage of some very high-level KOF players going like, nah, yeah. And the story we ran a couple weeks ago was like the battle planner that worked on Street Fighter 4 and a bunch of other classic shows. And that's Fatal Fury.
Starting point is 00:45:54 Is overseeing this, so we know the combat's going to be solved. Yeah, and it was, and it felt really good. And it's weird, because some characters like Kula look fucking phenomenal. Kula look fantastic. Kula looks what I would have expected when they said we're going to do a 3D KOF. I would have expected people to be at Kula's level of quality.
Starting point is 00:46:15 So the zoom in's a little rough, but it's only for that one little animation. Plus you have three characters, so it's like kind of on Tanzu that they're going to be a little lower in the first place. Like in general, she looks good. You look at her and she's like, okay, she's great. And you look at Leona and she's like, okay,
Starting point is 00:46:28 a little bit worse than Kyo and Iori are a little lower. Which is weird, because they're the main characters. And you see Andy and you're like, what the fuck happened, bro? What happened, man? South Town got a lot worse. The modeler is either a brand new person or the modeler for Andy hates Andy. Yeah, maybe.
Starting point is 00:46:45 Just fuck mine! Or it'll make you look gross. Or it's a guy that quit the industry after working on the simple series games and then came back. It sucks, because Andy's like one of my favorites. And I'm looking at him and I'm like, what happened to you, man? See, here's the thing. What you're saying when I looked up
Starting point is 00:47:01 some of the people going, hey, plays pretty good at this juncture and stuff. But guess what? Andy is not my favorite KOF character. I used to actually hate him quite a bit. I want to go to KOF characters. So, but Team Fatal Fury, if Joe and Terry look just as bad, I'm just going to then buy principal.
Starting point is 00:47:22 When the game releases, I will hate the game regardless. Because my three main characters all look as like Andy. No thanks. Like, why'd you shit on the team? Why'd you shit on the team? So I've seen Ralph was in that trailer, but there's no close-ups of him. No.
Starting point is 00:47:38 Did you get to see any close-ups of Ralph? No. Okay. No. Someone needed to play him. The only thing I'll say about Ralph is that... It was only those six characters. Oh, shit.
Starting point is 00:47:47 Leona, Kula, Yori Kyo, and Chang. Chang. Chang, Chang. Oh, fucking, I didn't touch him. Chang, go ahead. He's a criminal. Now he is. Before he's reformed.
Starting point is 00:47:57 He's always been reformed. I do like that in the interview, the guy was saying like how we're going to, we're trying to put a little bit of emphasis on everything. That we're going to try to have a single-player story experience. And I always felt KOF 13s was pretty decent. Yeah, that trailer was hilarious, man. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:48:15 Fighting. Online. Graphics. Ranked battle. Controls. The six-player mode is something that's actually interesting, if it's not going to be a fucking nightmare on the team. Yeah, that one's kind of neat, but...
Starting point is 00:48:27 I don't know. Let's see how it can be not be a nightmare. And now we've got like one of the staffers, I forgot where, but I think it was like on the Facebook or so, where he responded to someone basically going, yeah, we know the graphical issues, we're aware, and we're trying to fix it. And then there was like, I don't know if it's a mock-up,
Starting point is 00:48:43 or that screenshot where you see more textures on the characters. Yeah, I don't know what that is. It was a Chinese employee of, I guess, one of the art companies working on it. And he posted... Splines along. Proprietely, it's in Chinese, I can't read it. Proprietely, he posed, he posted, excuse me,
Starting point is 00:49:02 what Andy and, I think it was Leona was the other one, what they're gonna look like in final. But they're supposed to look... And they look significantly better, and there's a lot more like shaders and stuff going on, so... Yeah, it's not really modeling differences, it's just skin textures. Passives.
Starting point is 00:49:16 Yeah, but it looks a lot better, so if they actually do get to do that, then yeah. I mean, it'll look better. Don't show these characters until they're near final, please. You have a lot of characters to show, 50 in fact. Which is crazy. You can afford to wait to only show the final ones. You know, it's just a series of bad decisions here,
Starting point is 00:49:37 no matter what the final product is gonna be. Like, you guys don't like Fang, right? This is not how you roll it out. Imagine how much you would not like Fang if you saw his alpha variant with no textures on his face. It was probably King Cobra again, they changed him. Hey, Brendan, let me ask you, what do you think about Fang, the Street Fighter character?
Starting point is 00:49:53 He looks, I don't know if you guys know a lot about Pokémon, like, beyond a certain point, but he looks like a Mienshao. Yeah, he does. Mienshao's a really cool design. I don't mind, I don't, he looks dumb. He definitely looks dumb. I just don't get him as, you know, the, you know, a boss. Well, like, it's the only way I see that angle working
Starting point is 00:50:17 is he was the Shadowloo scientist. Well, he's also like an experiment as well. Like, that's why he's got the code names. That's why he's... Yeah, yeah, yeah. I think he fits right in with the rest of them. He can't possibly be second in command. He's second.
Starting point is 00:50:29 Like, I feel like, I feel like Vega and Raaz would get, like, upgraded. No, Raaz is never getting a promotion. But it, like, if they're the elites with their, like, Mount Rushmore statue, you know what I mean? Like, I feel like... Like, this guy is second. They've been around, and this guy, this guy comes in over them. This guy replaces, he's number two.
Starting point is 00:50:48 That's crazy. This is the guy who gets yelled at by them. Bad guys don't have hierarchy, apparently. No, they do. Or like, are like, proper promotion. They don't have seniority. Yeah, there's no tenure. They have hierarchy, depending on who's the first guy you fight.
Starting point is 00:51:01 Balrog, he's the lowest tier of the four teams. Oh, by that logic, Balrog is going to be like the leader of Shadowloo, because you can only fight him in, like, six months after the game comes out. But all those shit guys running around in the background of that stage are, like, even below further like that. Oh, yeah, another shit. I will say that the fang gameplay looks as interesting as I'd hoped. He's going to be a super annoying people with it.
Starting point is 00:51:23 If you guys want to see the listeners at home, if you want to see a fantastic set, go track down Micros versus Combo Fiend. It's the only set out there. Dude, it's the, no, but like, I don't just mean four fang gameplay. I mean, that's a great set. And now, that, but that's Micros versus Combo Fiend on all pre-release footage. Those guys are great. That's why, go watch Capcom Pro Talk.
Starting point is 00:51:44 That's why they keep asking them to team up for the... Go watch Micros' talk show. It's the best. Like, that's why it's so good. You gotta send me a link, because I always forget them. Um, yeah, that was a cool set that they did, and you got to see, like, the keep away game, the poison. Sometimes it's you, sometimes it doesn't cause a hits done,
Starting point is 00:52:01 and it's really weird and interesting. It's definitely like Lynn from, and Duelon from KOF, you know. So you can aim and you're made fun of them. Two of my most hated characters. Yeah. I think it looks cool though. I think he fits right in with the rest of them. Totally.
Starting point is 00:52:16 I think he fits the exact opposite. I don't know. Like, look at Laura's super. Yeah. Yeah. Like, goofy bullshit. Yeah. No.
Starting point is 00:52:24 Yeah. That's what Street Biders is about. There's nothing to me, like I said last time, there's nothing wrong with the gimmick of Poison. I wasn't there last time. Oh, yeah. Yeah, sorry. So my problem with Fang,
Starting point is 00:52:34 my problem with Fang is that he's too stretched. He's too noodley. Yeah, there's no, there's no stretch. Yeah, if he was like, if he was like two inches shorter, and like one inch wider. Right. He's way cooler than Fang. That's all, that would have been fine for me, you know.
Starting point is 00:52:47 Like the poison man with the hat and the shades, and the whole like, I'm hiding my poison hands in my sleeves deal. Sure, run it. That can be a cool thing, or a goofy thing. But I just think he's too noodley. It's just 12. Yeah, like 12.
Starting point is 00:53:00 Cheese string. That's what he stretches. What about Necro? Yeah. What about Dalsim? But they're normal proportions. What about Zenguish, who's the opposite? Or Hugo.
Starting point is 00:53:09 We can't go into his right row. So I just mean like Hugo's like 12 feet tall and gigantic. Like, but the default standing there version of Fang, I wish he looked like a normal guy-ish, or at least a slender. So you wouldn't mind if he turned into the noodle man. If he turned into it through his moves, yeah. Or like Seth's crazy suck you in,
Starting point is 00:53:28 shit is dumb and it's like whatever. Because standing there, Dalsim looks relatively normal, except for child skulls, right? Yes. And when he does his moves- But who doesn't have child skulls? The craziness happens.
Starting point is 00:53:37 I think what he says is that Fang's default pose looks like he's in a dumb special move state all the time. So it looks off-putting. So standing there, Blanca looks super normal. He does. Proportionally. Proportionally, yeah. Yeah, I mean, you know, it's street fighter.
Starting point is 00:53:54 Not everybody is, you know, looking completely like regular humans or anything, but at least, you know, like this looks like somebody who could exist if there was a green person with a bunch of orange hair. I think, I'm just gonna say it one more time, I think that Fang looks more like a normal human than Rufus ever did, certainly.
Starting point is 00:54:13 But like we can just, like you can, we can go back and forth on it. It's a pointless thing at this point. But I just feel like it's as an aesthetic thing. SF5, you know, we're gonna do this. It's just the proportions. It's gonna be super shitty when I pick Fang over. Which is, no, it's not,
Starting point is 00:54:27 because gameplay-wise, he's fucking cool. No, okay, I'll do it to have this argument over. Well, I'm not gonna have it. What a fantastic time. Yeah, that's part of his strategy. That'll play Fang mirrors for three hours. Yeah, I'll do it. It's gonna be a good time.
Starting point is 00:54:39 Don't put that on our channel. First to 40. This is a bit in-depth, but like just while we're on it, because we're not really gonna bring up much else, there's- We'll take care of a bunch. I don't know if you caught this, but it's a more subtle detail.
Starting point is 00:54:51 They're bringing back normal attack priorities from Third Strike in this game. So what that is is, Third Strike was the only other game that had this. If two attacks clash at the same time and are gonna trade, usually they just trade if the hitbox is overlapping. But everybody bounces back.
Starting point is 00:55:09 But now, exactly, now a light will always lose to a medium that comes out at the same time. So you can't match lights to get out of everything anymore. That is a nerve to mashing lights and a massive buff to crush counters. And frame traps are everything. Frame traps are now the worst. That medium knee that you threw out a second too late
Starting point is 00:55:28 is now way scarier. Super interesting. And now heavies are fucking up. Well, especially since you're already gonna be fishing for crush counters with your heavies. And now you know that your heavy is gonna beat half the shit they can throw out. Only if it's on the same frame.
Starting point is 00:55:42 Well, yeah. If the light hits you a frame before. I mean, an institution with all things being equal. The VR experience, though, in general, Liam, like, you've now had a chance at all of them. If I'm not mistaken. I haven't used the Vive because it's never been present at any show I've been at.
Starting point is 00:56:01 Well, you've used that, right? That's what I try. Everyone has used it and used the other ones kind of says, like, yeah, they're all about even. Like, I've used all the other ones. And besides the Samsung Gear VR, they're all even. Brennan, have you had any chance to play any of the VR things?
Starting point is 00:56:20 Not really. One of my buddies has an Oculus, like, older model that I've used. So I've gotten, you know, my feet wet in it. But I don't know. I don't know all the advancements just yet. Are you, like Liam and Pat, in that you're looking forward to the day
Starting point is 00:56:34 when you can just put on the MMO VR headset and disappear? Yeah, I'm concerned because I don't want to live in .hack, but I probably will. Good bye, real world. Exactly. My real family will probably have problems with it when that day comes, but it's coming. It's coming fast.
Starting point is 00:56:50 You know what I'm worried about? I just had the realization just now because it would apply to me and Brennan equally, but in different dimensions, in which when you're walking around in VR games, there will be an average standardized height. Ah. That people like me and Brennan
Starting point is 00:57:08 on the fucking opposite side to that spectrum is going to be super weird and disorienting. In the HTC Vive demos I tried, it was real space, so my height was the camera in the real world. Okay, that would be it. But what if I can't beat a game? I don't know.
Starting point is 00:57:25 Because I can't reach the thing. I don't know. I can't. I already can. Then we have a console for you. It's called the Xbox 360. I already can't reach things in my own cupboards at my new place.
Starting point is 00:57:36 I don't want to not be able to reach things in fantasy worlds. That's a problem. You bumped it. Yeah, well actually what I'm worried about what I'm worried about is when it comes to like, what is the walking around thing? The thing that you're supposed to wear with,
Starting point is 00:57:52 you're supposed to use with the... You're not. It's an absurd game. It's a neat device, but... Okay, yeah, because I'm like, that thing will be crushed beneath my weight. Oh, what's that fucking Sega Genesis one? Activator.
Starting point is 00:58:06 The Activator. Yeah, just get all of this. Bring it back, Sega. Get on board the train. It's finally ready to leave the station. Play Eternal Champions. Let's go. No, please.
Starting point is 00:58:16 I love that game and not... Sorry, Will, you were going to say, though? I was going to ask you what you thought of all of them together, since you've had them all. Honestly, I think they're all pretty even. You think they're all really even, okay. Not just because I happen to like them a lot this generation,
Starting point is 00:58:30 but without a doubt, Sony has the best software. Okay. Not even a question in my mind. How fast is VR going to replace all traditional games? Not all traditional games. All of real life. I have yet to see a single... Oh, I like this man.
Starting point is 00:58:44 What do you say? All of real life. When are we going to live in psychopath's land? That's the question, isn't it? I have yet to see a single announced game that I even care about. That is really interesting. What about Golem?
Starting point is 00:58:59 I have yet to see it. You didn't see it? Oh, it looks really cool. Well, okay. We talked about it last week. Like that? That was the black and white one? Yeah, no, no.
Starting point is 00:59:06 I remember the announcement, but I have yet to see like... No, sorry. I was thinking of... This was the one with the Golem. It's by... What's his face? Marty O'Donnell or whatever?
Starting point is 00:59:18 X-Bungie guys? Yeah, we know we looked at it. We did look at it. I had a Bungie for our family. Matt, here's what I say to you. I was really mistaking it with Brutal. Year two or three will be better for you than year one, which is the launch.
Starting point is 00:59:27 Well, right now, because we're still figuring out moving stuff. It's like the one thing I'm kind of announces that I wish it wasn't on VR, which is I wish we got like a good standalone DLC pack for Until Dawn and not some weird rail shooter thing. Yeah, I spoke to one of the Until Dawn guys
Starting point is 00:59:41 and he said like, you know, they had no idea how Until Dawn was going to do when it shipped. Nobody did. They didn't have like a vested interest in continuing to make Until Dawn style things until after people loved Until Dawn. I loved it, yeah. So they...
Starting point is 00:59:54 He told me they were working on Rush of Blood like eight months before Until Dawn even shipped. 100 foot tall robot. It wasn't a thing... 100 foot tall robot. Which is, you know, it's not just a VR game. It's just a bonus mode that's a VR thing. Yeah, exactly.
Starting point is 01:00:09 They haven't showed it yet either. They just claim that it exists. So people made that mock-up of that Godzilla thing that looks terrible, but I would love to be a 600 foot tall something breaking through stuff. So here's the question. Will Sony allow their creepy anime porn games on their VR system?
Starting point is 01:00:26 Yes, I hope. Is there some money? Dead or Alive Xtreme 3 supports Oculus, and that's... Oculus, Morpheus, and that's great. Tekken 7. Yeah, it does. They confirmed it.
Starting point is 01:00:37 It's not even out yet. No, it's crazy. They confirmed it. Wow. Thinkin' less than it's coming. That's quite a head, yeah. Tekken 7's gonna support it, so I can be a kuma in first person?
Starting point is 01:00:47 Tekken 7, like, is the fighting game from the character's perspective or from the side? Because both seem like they have massive roles. I want both. Yeah. Do a hurricane kick from first person? Yeah. Oh, god.
Starting point is 01:00:59 Play Blanka from first person. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Solid. Pat, what'd you do this week, man? I moved in, but I did that last week, but now I got fucking curtains.
Starting point is 01:01:08 I moved in again. So now the fucking guy across the street from me who wears headphones all day in that office can't take pictures of my dick anymore. You should be proud of your dick. Because I could see him from my window every day. No, he's not, though. Every day he's across the street in the other window
Starting point is 01:01:23 with his headphones on typing. Why do you think he's taking pictures of you, though? Because... Anyway, so I got curtains. That's nice. Whatever. I moved in. I played some video games.
Starting point is 01:01:35 I played Yakuza 5, and I played Xenoblade Chronicles X. Xenoblade's good. Xenoblade's good. How's that music? That battle music sounds a lot better in-game than it does on YouTube. A lot of battles you don't even get as far as the lyrics because it's 40 seconds.
Starting point is 01:01:50 And then you're finishing up the battle, and the guy goes on another plan, and you crack up, and then the battle ends. So it's fine, actually. So the thing about Xenoblade that really confused me is, boy, they fucking dump you in there. They throw you into the deep end, like, second one. And the first thing you do is, like, you join a team,
Starting point is 01:02:10 go get points, go to the- And you sit there, and you watch all eight teams scroll by, and you're like, oh my god, they're still on the page. That's why some reviews would be like, I really like this, give it a nine, and then someone's like, because it throws you into the deep end. It reminds me- Then you see some reviews that,
Starting point is 01:02:24 fuck this, it's so hard, why is it throwing me into the deep end? It reminds me of how Dragon's Dogma throws you into the deep end. Ah, yeah. Like, just, like, fuck you, play it. Do it good. Figure it out. But yeah, absolutely. There's one problem with it, and I put it down because of it,
Starting point is 01:02:38 and I feel stupid, but it bothered me way more than it should have. All of the map functions, including fast travel, and all of the management things, require the use of the Wii U gamepad. So this is, like, one of the very few games where the gamepad actively improves the gamepad. Yes, and I admit that. But, like-
Starting point is 01:02:58 But you just don't like it so much. I don't like it so much, and I thought, like, okay, I'll do the thing that I usually do, where I have it on the little stand right next to me, and I'll use it as a second screen, and then a second problem shows up, and it's like the UI size in that game is way too small. There's a lot of information.
Starting point is 01:03:16 Even on the gamepad right next to you, the map, like, and I'm not talking about the map, I've got to zoom in and out, but the text is way too small. That's actually a problem. Like, unless you're holding it in your hand, it's too small to read. I've been hearing about that as well. It's like a dead-rising kind of issue,
Starting point is 01:03:34 where, like, I'm on a logical text. That was a weird resolution, because there's no reason I shouldn't be able to be grumpy and play with my Pro Controller and just have it next to me as a second screen, and I tap on the things that I need to tap on, except, like, my eyes aren't perfect, fair, but, like, I actually can't read the text.
Starting point is 01:03:53 And it's one- It's like where this armrest is on this chair. It's that close. Many people are having that. It's crazy. So, I'm under-skelling it. No, do skels like that. The only person in the world that has the skel is cranky.
Starting point is 01:04:07 Okay. No, and so I'm going to go back to it, because I can tell that it's, like, my kind of explore infinitely kind of game, but I'm just going to end up by playing with my Pro Controller, and when I need to do map stuff, I will pick it up as if it were a tablet and do my map stuff and then put it back down.
Starting point is 01:04:25 Yeah, I think it's really good, too. If I didn't have Yakuza 5 to play, I would have passed that hump already, but instead I had this game that I had this nitpick over and this game that I didn't. So, Yakuza 5 is the best. It is unbelievable. It is amazing.
Starting point is 01:04:42 The amount of, like, I started to play that game, and I did the first little story bit, and the first thing that happens is you go on a cab ride and you have, like, a 45-minute glacial-paced conversation in which nobody's talking about the Yakuza, but they're really talking about the Yakuza with the former chairman, and nothing happens. That's the best, dude.
Starting point is 01:05:02 And then I got out of the cab, went down to the club Sega, and played Virtual Fighter and UFO Catcher for, like, two and a half hours. Why don't you just play Virtual Fighter? Because I don't have VF2 on my places. Because this is the best version of the game. Yeah, Shenmue did the same thing. Like, you know, hang out at that arcade, man.
Starting point is 01:05:20 This is a better... Like, this series has always been better than Shenmue. It's action Shenmue, yeah. And it's much more obvious. Like, I beat the first part. Like, there's the five characters. I beat the first part. The first chunk, yeah.
Starting point is 01:05:33 And, like, Yakuza 4 had a similar, like, breakdown of four characters. They are much better in this one about you beat that character's arc and you finish what that character was supposed to do. That situation becomes resolved, and there's a big awesome thing. Like, what would usually be saved for the end of the game. But you get five of them this time.
Starting point is 01:05:55 And then they go, okay, you did it. This character's story is over. And then somebody literally walks out from out of frame and goes, nah, fuck you. Plot information. I'm going to Tokyo. Right. And then you switch to a new character.
Starting point is 01:06:10 It is stellar and fantastic. And just all the ways that those games are, I absolutely adore it. The taxi driving shit is the... You mean crazy taxis? It's awesome. No, it's the opposite of crazy taxi. It's more like racing on highway. No, no, no, there's two taxi minigames.
Starting point is 01:06:24 There's racing... The highway ones, yeah. There's racing dudes on the highway to beat them, to defeat the evil street racing gang, the devil killers. Yeah. And then there's the pick up fares and be a cabbie. And it's judging you on, don't hit the accelerator too fast because customers don't like it.
Starting point is 01:06:45 Don't turn without your signal. Oh, there is the opposite of crazy taxis. Fucking stop at red lights. Be a good driver. Avoid pedestrians that run across the crosswalk without looking. You say that because it's like Willie talks a big game, but if he was in a cab or an Uber, and they're running people over and taking six shortcuts
Starting point is 01:07:05 and being super dangerous, I don't think... I would not throw money out in the sky, no. And the mechanic that absolutely kills that mode, that just makes it like puts it right over the top, because that's a cool little mode, like you can play safe and drive safe. The thing is, is that because you're a cab driver, cab culture says you're supposed to talk to your customer. So dialogue options will appear.
Starting point is 01:07:26 While you're driving. And while you are driving and managing all these, you have to pick the correct dialogue response for your customer. It's awesome. And now that I'm playing Asajjama, that shit's gone. Instead, now I'm playing like a fucking full fleshed hunting game where you punch bears. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:07:44 Fuck. So is there some sort of attacking Uber driver's portion to the taxis? Not in Japan. As a cab driver, you do get attacked a lot from people trying to shake you down. But in 2012, Japan, video game land, there is no Uber. There is no Uber yet. Please wait for Yakuza 6.
Starting point is 01:08:04 You see an Uber logo on the map and just a skull pointing at that. Destroy the Uber. You have to meet your fellow taxi drivers and just destroy the Uber car by kicking it. Street Fighter 2 bonus mission. And this is just for people who've been playing the series for a long time. But they like, Matt, you were with me on Yakuza 4 LP. I know a lot of people forget I was, but yeah.
Starting point is 01:08:29 The way that they build up to cure you at the end of the game, and he's like a god king. He's a god king. And everyone is terrified of him. They have finally just gone full anime with those characters. Your main characters are all like that. And there is a fight in which people are bringing out machine guns and rocket launchers against cure you and his cab.
Starting point is 01:08:50 Yeah, because that's all they can do. And it's just all these anime shots of him just walking forward and nudging to the side to dodge missiles. And it's not even justified. All he did was punch people. Yeah, and they just go full on crazy anime with these characters now. And I absolutely love it. He's getting like the fucking reputation of being a god king
Starting point is 01:09:19 from not having done all that much. Well, he does his punch people, but he always wins no matter how many people there are in a punch. It's just the idea of him. I remember once upon a time I was like, oh yeah, Yakuza, that should be interesting because Japan doesn't have a whole lot of guns and stuff. They've just got knives and fists.
Starting point is 01:09:34 Well, the primary gameplay is like that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But then, and everybody who shows up with a gun is a special enemy or a boss. Right. Um, great series. Buy it. Buy it. Actually this time though.
Starting point is 01:09:47 No, for real. It's a great game. I can't recommend it enough. It's a PS3 digital only title. It's $40. Well, and we're at the point too where like if we don't buy it, there's no more fuck you second. Zero will show up regardless of the PS4,
Starting point is 01:10:03 but if you have the ability to buy it, please seriously consider buying it. You will be happy you bought it. It's a great game. That teaser for six is gorgeous. The teaser for six is gorgeous. The zero, zero looks amazing. Zero looks awesome.
Starting point is 01:10:17 And if we get past zero, we might get one, which has the speed down anywhere system. I want to get one personally. If we get past zero, we might get to one. Yeah. Amazing series. So good. I love it.
Starting point is 01:10:31 Okay. I use the best. His story is so sad. I'll just jump in because I really didn't have much of a week. After flying back from LA. Scratch my butt. From what? No.
Starting point is 01:10:41 Well, yeah. After like, I'm just like, I need to hit the boxing gym and just live here for a while. And so I've been there. So you're prepping for that fight? You have to pay for your sins. Yeah. That's exactly what I'm doing, Brennan.
Starting point is 01:10:54 And like, I'm hitting it like every second day at this point to make up for the damage. So I mean, you're sore right now? Of my birthday and the crab shack. You're still working off that crab shack. It wasn't great. The debt you cannot repay. No.
Starting point is 01:11:09 So like, I'm just, I'm just punching shit. And I started watching Azumanga Dayo again with a girlfriend just to show her that. And like, that show is timeless. It's super good. Fucking timeless. It's before anime became terrible. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:11:24 Just kidding. It's always been terrible. It's always been terrible. It wasn't a mistake. It's nothing but trash. So says the god. Also, I hate my son. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:11:36 You doing a Jackie Chan version? Wait, that one he actually said. No. That's why I said it. Yeah, the really harsh one. That one's the rule. I hate Goro. I'm, no, but I'm getting close to the point
Starting point is 01:11:47 where I might have to make some decisions about whether or not I actually want to like, go in and spar for real. Do it. Do it. Do it. But do it. There's nothing better than proving yourself
Starting point is 01:11:57 on the field of combat. Of course. Of course. Although just like, what if I get punched in the throat and can't talk anymore? I got my arm pulled out of socket last weekend. Yeah, fair enough. You just got to do it.
Starting point is 01:12:13 It's only a living that I have though, based on my throat and hands. Anything you, any potential fear you can have, you're on the phone with a man that's like, yeah, someone dislocated my face. No, that's, I exploded a ring the other week. Yeah, and I got to talk, and I got to talk now too. A couple, a couple of months ago,
Starting point is 01:12:32 I could have gotten away with getting my throat cut out. Right. That's true. No, that's it. No, I was with a diss. From day one, I've always approached it like, yeah, I'm practicing to eventually go in and start hitting a few spar matches.
Starting point is 01:12:48 And it's getting closer, and I'm like, okay, this is real now. Just don't go against the guy who's obviously super good. Yeah. Here's what you need to do. Do your homework. Try not to suck. Get ready, feel confident, pick a sparring match
Starting point is 01:13:06 with no gear against the 18-year-old that's hungry. Get your shit rocked off like you think you're going to die, and feel like, yeah, I did it. Yeah, yeah. Right now, it's like there's the smaller, but super pro Asian guy, and then there's the total rookie huge monster man. Well, that's tough.
Starting point is 01:13:29 Well, you know what you could do. Hypothetically, you could talk a bunch of trash, you could talk a bunch of trash, and then you can fly me up to Canada, and then I'll fight for you. So we'll get those two choices. You have those two choices, and you'll pick the right one if you choose Asian guy
Starting point is 01:13:46 or a big dude. And if you hear, yeah, that makes sense. You took the right dude. Yeah. You'll be fine, my friend. You're right. Just make sure you fight hungry. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:14:01 Yeah. Don't eat anything. Don't eat anything that day. Fight hungry. Liam, will you be my Mr. Gotch at ringside, and bring me my tea? Totally. I'll afford it.
Starting point is 01:14:09 I'll throw it at you. Now that was it. Well, I didn't do much. Matt, what'd you do, though? I juggled a lot of my time actually playing three games. I thought you actually juggled. Dude, that'd be cool. Uh, Woolly doing his lame boxing, I became a juggler.
Starting point is 01:14:30 Juggling is safer. Much like Pat. Unless you're juggling knives. Yeah. It starts to get less safe. Much like Pat, buy Earth Defense Force 4.1 on your PS4. Oh, you know what? Can I get in on that, too?
Starting point is 01:14:42 It's super cheap. A2 is pretty good. It's amazing. That's a good game, too. You tell people to buy Yakuza also? Yeah, no. Yakuza and Earth Defense Force. Sell your fallouts.
Starting point is 01:14:53 Needs your support. Yeah. Sell your fallouts. Sell your battlefronts. Those are what fallouts you. I forget. Did you play EDF II yet or no? I downloaded it, but when I have EDF 4.1, I don't.
Starting point is 01:15:04 No, that's fine. Yeah. When I'm done, when I'm sick of it, or when I'm on the plane the next time. When you're on the plane, you're going to play EDF II. My Vita, I should just call it my play-nup. We're so fucking biased to Japanese games. It's not even funny. It's just really sad.
Starting point is 01:15:15 Hey, let X up. A bunch of filthy weeds. It does, it does. Someone's got to be a filthy weed. So EDF 4.1, it seems like the same game as 2025 that I played a little bit, but now I'm 40 levels deep and I'm trying to search for every game FAQs post, where do I farm for weapons? I need the weapons now.
Starting point is 01:15:34 Just keep killing bugs. Pat, am I crazy? Did 2017 not have an active reload mechanic? It did not. No, wait. Did it? Did it? Like, I was like, no.
Starting point is 01:15:46 I remember. Maybe it did. I can't remember, but this doesn't have it. I don't think it did. I don't think it did. Or did Insect Armageddon have it? I don't think it started Armageddon had it. It would probably be Insect Armageddon because that's the American one.
Starting point is 01:15:56 Anyway, I'm trying to get to the new levels where you pilot a giant thousand-foot mecca to fight the Godzilla. That's right. Because rumor has it they're in there. And I'm 40 levels deep and no one knows where it is yet. I'm not sure if anyone knows. Insect Armageddon had active reload. No.
Starting point is 01:16:10 Okay, that's where it was then. That would help, actually. Which that mechanic was in there. Well, it just hit me, like, again. Like, we're so Japanese, we're so biased towards Japanese games. We're so Japanese towards bias. No, but like, I was like, first, like, aha, these games. They're both Japanese games we were talking about.
Starting point is 01:16:26 But then I'm like, no, these two are the most Japanese. Yeah. Like, the fucking Earth Defense Force and Japanese crime syndicate simulator. Yeah. So now that I'm really deep in there, there's one thing that I think is everything that Insect Armageddon, it did a lot of good things that made Sandlot change what they did. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:16:47 Just put classes in there. Put online co-op. And all that stuff. After that game did it, they had never gone back, right? Yes, that's correct. There's two things that, oh, God, if... No, but it's like, if they change it, then is the series getting too good? It has to stay kind of shitty.
Starting point is 01:17:02 It has to stay kind of shitty. I played it a bit at your place. And I feel like they've strayed from their ethos a little bit. No, it's still shitty. I always felt like when they're testing, when they're just testing the game in office and their producer sits down and he plays it and he's playing like EDF 2017. He's like, this runs at like 60 FPS. We're wasting 40 frames.
Starting point is 01:17:22 Exactly. We could spend those frames on enemies. So when this game gets hectic, even though it's running on a PS4, it gets as bad as ever. Okay, good, good. Because the brief amount I played at your place, I was like, this is running good. Because you need that slowdown because there's so many enemies, you need to aim much better. It does run better than any PDF overall. But there's the two mechanics I wish they would fucking change.
Starting point is 01:17:45 What a waste. Those frames were perfectly good. Is one is on your mini map. It shows you where items are. Yes, that's right. And it should fucking tell you it should change. Then it should have two item icons. One for weapons.
Starting point is 01:17:56 Armor and health. And one for weapons. Because all you want is weapons. All you want is weapons. That's right. Like, I'm good for armor, sir. And I don't need all these health pick ever good for armor. I know, well, no, I'm, I've been collecting armor though.
Starting point is 01:18:09 And I have, I found one weapon box. Just tell me where the fucking weapon boxes are. And the last thing is that I wish the Rangers had an actual dashing run. And not just rolling side to side. It still sucks. And then people will go, well, if you want a fast character, take the Wind Diver. No, I want the Ranger. I don't like playing as the Wind Diver.
Starting point is 01:18:29 Wind Diver, if people like the Wind Diver, that's an excellent support class. Awesome. Help me out. I do not want to be the Wind Diver. I know, I do not want to be the Wind Diver. I just want to be the fucking Ranger. Do you know what the weapon count is in 4.1? A lot.
Starting point is 01:18:41 A zillion. There's a bunch. There's literally a zillion weapons. Because there's tons, but like expect a lot of them to be like copies with altered stats. Yeah, yeah. There are more than five, but there's always that ridiculous number that's going to double. It's super high. It's almost like I got a level 70 tortoise.
Starting point is 01:18:57 The tortoise sucks though. The tortoise sucks. But, but if you're fighting the Godzilla's. I don't like it. I like it. If you're fighting the big, big, big guys. What? I'm playing EDF 2 and it's really handy to just fire 20 at the beginning of the mission and let them go.
Starting point is 01:19:09 You look at the description of the mission, you see the picture and you go, I should choose based on this. Absolutely. So I really, really enjoy that. I'm still going through it super hard. I said I've been juggling around. I've been playing a lot of fast racing Neo. It's fast.
Starting point is 01:19:22 Is it racing? It's so racing. There's a little bit of Neo in there. Very much racing. I like to see the amount of people that are getting on board of it. Like just like match the stream in it. Other people streaming it like this. It just this is as close as we'll ever get.
Starting point is 01:19:35 I was going to grab that. I bought Type O Man instead. But that's the choice. But I will, but I will get that. Please do. There's that I've been playing a lot of. Really, really enjoying it. Not really much to complain about there.
Starting point is 01:19:47 Just really good tracks, really good ships and balance. No rubber band AI. Just really awesome. Rubber banding is the worst. Not great. And Dementium Remastered been putting more time into that. Still liking it? Still liking it.
Starting point is 01:20:02 Except for, I forgot that it's old. Did you see that? Quite old. You from I think it was Destructoid who gave it a one. No. Fucking like. Carry on. Jim Sterling's spirit.
Starting point is 01:20:14 That's crazy. I don't even know why you would. Because it's vastly improved over the original version. Yeah. Anyway, I'm still really liking it. It's all in the sense that holy shit. This boss pattern is old. You will die multiple times until you just know the trick.
Starting point is 01:20:29 Dude, it's a DS game. It's a DS game, man. I'm still really enjoying that. And I played a lot more Shadow Jago. Just fiddling around. I told, yeah. Wooly just brought it up. Just affected, you know.
Starting point is 01:20:42 One of my least favorite games ever. Just thinking about it is making me upsetting. Shocking. Now I'll have to read that. Anyway, I'm really enjoying it. But yeah, I fool around with Shadow Jago a lot more. Just found out that his uppercut changes when you do it out of his dash. Oh, the toy, really?
Starting point is 01:21:02 No, the actual character. That figure's so nice. I can't wait to buy them. It's met under the sheets with a flashlight going like... Shendokuken. That's awesome. Just like Akuma, your Hadoken or your special move names should change. Reflecting how evil you are indeed.
Starting point is 01:21:24 I also watched for the first time Mulholland Drive. As you should. Okay, you beat everyone beat me to it. I gotta get on this. Okay. Now... Oh yeah, you haven't gone on with it. I haven't seen it.
Starting point is 01:21:34 Now, step one is you say Drive, but it might not be Drive. It might mean Mulholland Dream. Mulholland Dream. So, Leanna had seen it multiple times. And she's like, you're going to watch it, and I'm going to try to help you through it. You like Twin Peaks? I adore Twin Peaks. Wow, you're not getting that here.
Starting point is 01:21:57 You're not getting that here. That's why I haven't seen it yet. But at the same time, it's very Twin Peaks. People act like they act in Twin Peaks. The music is exactly like Twin Peaks. I don't want to hear you talking. So, the most amazing thing is that Naomi Watts finished this movie, and that was the most miserable experience of my life.
Starting point is 01:22:15 I'm going to quit acting because fuck this. And her house, her apartment, she was going to lose because she was making no money. And then someone said, wait till this movie comes out. And she did, and then it was fine. And the one really cool fact about this movie is that David Lynch directed her in a scene which she didn't want to do. And she swore at him, just swearing at him during the scene. And David Lynch had to cut around it because she didn't want to do it.
Starting point is 01:22:45 She kept forcing her to do it. So, the scene is actually really quick because it's cut around. She's going, you fucking asshole. I can't believe you're making me do this. The homage to porn? Yeah. Yeah, that scene, yeah. And she's crying real tears because she didn't want to do it.
Starting point is 01:23:02 This is very Kubrickian. Yeah. So, I can send you a cheat sheet that breaks down what a lot of these things. It's not confirmed, but it's a likely meaning for what the story and what the plot actually is. It seemed pretty when I looked through it after I watched it. But be warned, knowing what the things mean might not make it better. It just will tell you what happened. Overall though, I quite enjoyed it.
Starting point is 01:23:30 It was really interesting. It was very lynchian. And I liked it a bit more than Blue Velvet because Blue Velvet was not, was just kind of just a weird story. Whereas this had a weird story and things about it that I can't go into. But I enjoyed it a bit more. But I watched that. And also, I promised Pat I'll talk about it.
Starting point is 01:23:51 I watched, last night I couldn't sleep. So, I just watched like seven random TNG episodes. And when I watched that, I was just like, what the fuck is this episode? All right. And it was a bunch of new cadets that were all just there. And they're complaining about everything on the ship. They're all vying for a promotion. It's the blue guy talking about the efficiency and all that shit.
Starting point is 01:24:17 Well, Vulcan talking about the efficiency to Jordy. And then a brown haired Riker guy complaining about how Riker doesn't like them. I think the episode is called Cadets or Officers or something. And I'm watching it. And I'm kind of falling in and out of sleep. And I'm just like, what the fuck is this episode? And then it's Picard taking this woman with ridges on her nose. I forget the fucking race.
Starting point is 01:24:42 But all that's different is that they got ridges on their nose. The Majorans. And he goes, man, what you did in the fucking academy was fucked up. And you suck. And I think it shows a lot about your character. Yeah, that's Ensign Rowe. Yeah, no, it's not Ensign Rowe. It's another blonde lady that's Ensign Rowe's race.
Starting point is 01:25:01 Yeah, no, she used to be in Delta Strike. Or what, Alpha Strike? So she goes, I, oh, I'm sorry, sir. And he's like, out of my, get out of here. She's like, oh, and she goes and has a Worf's dumb little karate lesson. That's right. And he's like, you got to do the test blindfolded. You got to do the mac-ta-fah blindfolded.
Starting point is 01:25:24 You got to do it. And she's like, okay. And he's like, you're the only one good enough. Then she, then she does it. And he goes, anticipate my attack as she's blindfolded. You can't, what? And then she fails three times in a row. And he fucking stomps her.
Starting point is 01:25:39 Yeah. She goes, this fucking test is bullshit. Congratulations. You have succeeded in the mac-ta-fah. It took courage to tell me I'm bullshit. You got enough spit in your voice there. And it's like, maybe when other people talk mad shit to you, you won't just stand there and take it because they're bald.
Starting point is 01:25:59 And then she goes, is there even a real test called the mac-ta-fah? And he goes, no. No, I'd like to teach you. But you learned your lesson. She gets, yep. She goes and has the courage. She goes, Picard, to speak frankly. Why am I even here?
Starting point is 01:26:17 Why don't you just send me off your shitty ship? And he goes, congratulations. You fucking nailed it. Yeah. And she goes, what? Now go on this dangerous mission to do this. It's because she is one of the cadets with Wesley. They got that other guy killed in the training thing.
Starting point is 01:26:35 Yeah. And so he gets her on the ship and he's like, hey man, I knew every other captain would shit on you so hard, never give you a second chance. But I wanted to shit on you so that I could give you a second chance. Starfleet is the worst place in the world. Now go on this super dangerous mission. Oh shit.
Starting point is 01:26:53 It's the worst place on TV. What's the ending of that? The ending of that, well I'm not, I mean it's fucking like a 30 year old show. But the ending of that is holy shit. That's the ending of that. She goes on the super dangerous mission after gaining everyone's trust. And no Kardashian. And fucking dies.
Starting point is 01:27:14 And then the, then the, all the other, the ensigns are like, oh. Fuck this place. And then one guy tells the Riker guy, stop sucking Riker's dick. He'll like you more. And then Riker's like, why is this guy keep sucking my dick? And Deanna Choi's like, just let it happen. Yeah. Maybe he's just trying to be nice to you.
Starting point is 01:27:32 I'm not going to do it in this season. And almost like every conversation anyone has with Riker, they're like, hey is it a lot like you Riker? He's like, no. Was it like that? They're like, yeah you were. And he's like, oh it was. Shit.
Starting point is 01:27:46 And that, that was the episode. And lower decks. Lower decks. It's a season seven episode, which explains its quality. Yeah. So that was a really weird episode. And of course I watched the one. That's a terrible one.
Starting point is 01:27:58 I watched the one where Picard gets a weird mutant hand from putting it in a time pocket. What? Oh, that one. That's a good one though. Where he gets the weird mutant hand. What is he really watching? He was just playing the Star Trek generation theme.
Starting point is 01:28:12 Because it's all he knows about it. That's all he knows. He had the audacity to talk to us about that trailer earlier. Was it the best? Yeah. Yeah, no. You might not want to play that in podcast. I just wanted to background music.
Starting point is 01:28:26 No, no. Shit. No, that one with the time pockets and the evil Romulan. The Jordy fucking hockey checks out the space. Yeah. That bit's awesome. So all those were great.
Starting point is 01:28:37 How come they don't fall through the floor in that episode? How come, you know, when Jordy Enson and Rob become ghosts. Yeah, they're ghosts. They phase through everything. Except for the floor. Because if they phase through the floor, the episode couldn't happen. It's over. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:28:52 They just fall through space forever. That's right. There you go. Enson Rob sucks, man. I like Enson Rob. Oh, come on. She's a traitor. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:29:01 All right, we're done. Cool. I'm gonna marathon it one day. When Star Trek cast. Wait, what? You've never seen like all of TNG? There's episodes I've missed for sure. Okay, but you've...
Starting point is 01:29:11 Because I used to watch it on TV, getting home, whatever, whatever. Yeah, I did say that. But like, you must have been like five. Exactly. No, it's like Seinfeld to me. Where it's like, I've seen it in the weirdest, non-commercial order.
Starting point is 01:29:25 I've seen it as it was meant to be seen. It seems like... Exactly. Yeah. That's how these shows are designed to be seen. Every once in a while, not sure... You're not supposed to watch them all. It's very different when you watch them like in episode, uh,
Starting point is 01:29:38 air order. Of course, yeah. Like, there's a million little subplots that you didn't know were there. Yeah. Absolutely. Probably. Absolutely good.
Starting point is 01:29:46 Yeah. Um, so there you go. So I guess we should just jump into news now. Yeah, so let's start out with like the fucking... To me, what is the coolest shit? I think it's the coolest shit, too. Oh my god, Brennan, you must have seen the Tekken 7 trailer. That's the coolest stuff.
Starting point is 01:30:02 It's so cool. Oh, man, like... Meet me? Meet me? Wooly? Like the other day? After leave? Left?
Starting point is 01:30:06 We were talking about it, and we were just getting all giggly, like a little girl like... Eeeeeee! So, like, my friend that like is part of the... Toronto Tekken community, like, he just posted a thing where it's like, SpongeBob puts up a booth that just says Tekken 7,
Starting point is 01:30:20 and a couple people are like, yeah, and he puts a little sign on top that says with a kuma, and then he gets crowdy, and then you go right, you know? Okay, because I said as much on Twitter, I was like, I was so about Tekken 7. I sat down, watched gameplay videos, and I was like, yeah, that's the exact same Tekken...
Starting point is 01:30:36 Yeah. That it's been, and I think when Tekken 7 was around to get announced and seen it, I was like, I really want this to be a new generation Tekken. I want it to be Tekken 3 again. Yeah. Where it's, it's kind of new-ish. Totally.
Starting point is 01:30:47 Yeah. And now that this trailer is out, and it's not so much a kuma, a kuma is so fucking rad, it literally looks like the coolest kuma ever. Yeah. It's the combination of, oh my god, all these costumes are amazing.
Starting point is 01:30:59 They, they change. Yeah, those costumes. Those costumes are the defaults now. Yes. That's even cooler. I didn't know that. And oh my god, graphically, it looks even better. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:31:08 Now I'm really, really interested. King has a cape stapled to his traps. And, and- Draganov just looks like a miller. Yeah, just military man. Awesome. Um, and the fact, and it's not just a kuma's inclusion, it's the fact that he's there for plot canon reasons.
Starting point is 01:31:24 Yeah, no, that, that's what's with my mind. I'm like, what is going on? That a kuma is supposed to be here. He's not a soul caliber guest guest. Yeah, he's not a guest. He was there all along. Yeah, exactly. Like, that's the craziest-
Starting point is 01:31:36 He joined in now though. So, so this was- I also like the idea that he just couldn't be around for Street Fighter V because he's busy at Tekken. I wish there was more like character passing around, but people were actually too busy to be in both games. Yeah, man. He made a promise to Kazumi, so fuck Street Fighter V.
Starting point is 01:31:53 So, uh, I, like, I'm looking at this and I go, okay, so this to me looks like a nice primer. You know, a set the pace and the tone and figure out what you need to for the crossover game. That's correct. That's absolutely what it is. Right, yeah. But what if-
Starting point is 01:32:10 Yeah. Another trailer happens a little bit closer to release. And we find out that this is just- This is the game and there's just- Tekken 7 is Cross Street Fighter, but it's just, fuck you, they're all here. I know, I know. But what if-
Starting point is 01:32:25 It would be the best, it would be the best. So, and like the reason why we've been so touch and go on news about it is because we've been holding this under- Well, it wasn't ready yet. The rabbit. It wasn't ready yet, in fact. So, my favorite thing about this announcement is that
Starting point is 01:32:38 it hit me in the same way that Ben at a 2 did, in which I woke up and saw messages from people on my Facebook and on Twitter going, yo, Akuma and Tekken 7. And I went, ah, that's funny. Oh, there's a new text. What? And like, it's so absurd.
Starting point is 01:32:54 And it's in the title of the video for all of them, so you can't not see it. But I still didn't believe it? Yeah. I thought they were fake. No, no, no, no, so here's the thing, right? I'm looking at the text that says Akuma trailer, right? And I'm watching the video and she's talking.
Starting point is 01:33:08 And it's not until you're there. And he starts talking. And it's the same place? No, no, but my brain goes, oh, it's cool. They have a new character that they got that's the Akuma voice actor. Awesome. What's he going to look like?
Starting point is 01:33:20 Oh. And then it wasn't until the 10 logo shines off his back that I believed what I was seeing, you know? When I saw the name of the trailer, I'm at a point now, I'm like, yeah, this is true. This is exactly what I think it is. We're getting to a point where I'm like, no, it's fine. Yeah, this is kind of like, yeah.
Starting point is 01:33:37 We've gone past the point of no return. Yeah, anything can happen. I woke up at like seven in the morning because my girlfriend had to get up to go to school. And I looked at the trailer and I watched it and it didn't hit me and I fell asleep. And I woke up with a start hours later and I was like, he's there canning together.
Starting point is 01:33:57 And I was like, sleep fighter and take it are canning together. I was so tired, it just didn't even hit me when I first saw it. The Mishima Zadbatsu is going to destroy the world. Yeah. Only you can save it by killing my husband and son. I'm going to say this seriously. And he's like, I'll take that because I owe you a debt, whatever that means.
Starting point is 01:34:21 I think someone should predict this. I think this is it. Oh, really? I think when the console version drops, Ryu and Chunli, Addison DLC, and that's all she wrote. No, I don't think so. I don't think so. I think it will be.
Starting point is 01:34:35 I just want to be the one to just say the outline. I think this is the exact same thing as Tekken Tag 2. Shit, we're making another Tekken. Can't work on this. Well, they've literally come out and said that after Tekken 7 ships on consoles, the next game they're making is Tekken Cross Street Fighter. I'm just going to assume that they'll make it to other DLC characters
Starting point is 01:34:58 and they'll cut their losses and say, this worked and let's just move on. This is like the best defense. Cut their losses. This is going to be the best-selling Tekken games in the country. Cut their losses. Sex under Tekken Tag 2 underperformed greatly. Yeah, I mean Tekken Cross Street Fighter will be the best-selling Tekken games in Tekken 3.
Starting point is 01:35:17 It will be, because as Ryu on the cover. Look at what Akuma did. The Virtua Fighter cast showing up in DOA, in like five of them I think by the end or whatever, was like, that was a lot. That was nice. That was more than the guest spot. But I would not be surprised if like, yeah, they worked it in,
Starting point is 01:35:36 like maybe like you said, it could be a work. It could be a setup where it's like Tekken 7 with Street Fighter. They're all the same. There's something about- But there's no way they deliver three characters you call a day. There's too much money. There's too much money. Yeah, it's just too big.
Starting point is 01:35:50 I kind of think that, yeah, there's so much money that they'll be like, ah, just put it in here. But you really think you would just be careful. No, don't even mind them. I'm sorry for taking a guess. It seems like a bad business decision to do that. Yeah. You know, also the entire deal seemed like,
Starting point is 01:36:11 in retrospect, a bad business decision. It's considering what we thought- Oh no, it didn't cost them anything. No, I mean, the whole cross Tekken thing has not really resulted in anything great. Yeah, but I feel like it's so good that it should be worth going back into the well. Yeah, yeah, that's, you know, like, if you have access, because Capcom, we've said it before on this podcast, Capcom's characters are like Nintendo in that you have such a great lineup,
Starting point is 01:36:39 you know, and like the Street Fighter's in particular, if you get a deal where you can reach in and pull characters out of that from your fighter- The idea- Oh my God, you should take advantage of that. The idea that Street Fighter cross Tekken poison the well is baffling, because when you see that, when you see Akuma getting announced for Tekken 7, causing this much of a stir, and you think about what the actual ramifications of a bigger version of this announcement would be,
Starting point is 01:37:06 this would be the biggest game for Namco Bandai since Tekken 3. The one thing that I would disagree on that, Liam, is that I think Street Fighter cross Tekken did poison the well, but the well got better like two years ago. It's been years. Yeah, they've waited long enough for the well. The well has refreshed. Like by the time Tekken cross Street Fighter comes out?
Starting point is 01:37:24 Yeah, it will have been five years. Yeah. There's also a cloud of negativity amongst us that's way hotter than it is outside of our circle. Oh, yeah. And you need to keep in mind the real world is a little different, you know? No, the real world is in here, man. Though that Neo Gaff threat that was like cross Tekken wasn't so bad,
Starting point is 01:37:42 and he writes up a big analysis. Oh, fuck that guy. And then the first post underneath it is a dude going- Yeah, it was a real gem. Yeah, it was a real gem of a game. Fuck him. Yeah. Done.
Starting point is 01:37:51 I love it. Done and done. All right. Yeah. Um, so that's fucking exciting. It's the best. He has EX moves. What is that?
Starting point is 01:37:59 Anoraging Demon. Tekken 7, Faded Retribution. Uh, it's fated. I wish that sub title kind of like flopped around in my tongue a bit. Faded Retribution. I love all those dumb techies. Bloodline Rebellion, Dark Resurrection. We have to stick to the pattern of Tekken number letter R.
Starting point is 01:38:19 It has to be R. Dark word R. Yeah. No, I know, but Faded Retribution. Like, ah, that's not as cool as the other ones. It's not the coolest one. Bloodline Rebellion. Next one.
Starting point is 01:38:27 Bloodline Rebellion. Bloodline Rebellion. What was the movie? Bloodline Rebellion. No. No, the movie, the CG movie. Oh, I saw that in series. Blood Vengeance.
Starting point is 01:38:37 Blood Vengeance. Yeah, yep, yep. Just put all these generic image words. That's a good movie. No, it's not. It, the last 20 minutes is a good movie. The last 20 minutes is the shit, huh? Metal band, some music, all like track titles, basically.
Starting point is 01:38:51 So we've got that. Tekken 7, Lamb of God. Yeah. Did you see the trailer, Brennan, for Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon II, Sword of Destiny? Netflix exclusive. I did not actually see the trailer. How is it?
Starting point is 01:39:07 So here's my reaction to the trailer. So my thing. Yeah, tell me how to feel. Yeah, well, you don't watch it for yourself, right? I clicked, I made that note. I was clicked, it starts, Michelle Yeo. Okay, all right, fine. Donnie Yen, I'm in.
Starting point is 01:39:25 Donnie Yen is in Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon. I'm in. Like, as soon as I see Donnie Yen, done. Dang. It's a hero, it's true. I'm fucking in. I don't care what else. And it's directed by Pink.
Starting point is 01:39:35 Yeah, you and who, Pink? You and who, Pink? It's a cool hero, man, it's true. So the names are all... I'm sure it'll be fine. I don't see what would be wrong with it. I think it's so weird that it's a Netflix exclusive. Well, they're going in like...
Starting point is 01:39:46 I heard it was in the pipeline for Netflix for a while now. They just announced recently they're doubling their series production next year. And they're going to put out twice the amount of a like, Netflix exclusive series next year. Because they've all been hits. Because they're doing really good for them, yeah. And every, like, everyone watches them right away. Go watch Nights of Syndonia.
Starting point is 01:40:06 Nights of Syndonia. Nights of Syndonia. Yeah. It's a good show. So you've seen the opening for that show? What about Muse? Fuck damn. It's not about Muse.
Starting point is 01:40:13 I don't understand. Isn't that a Muse song? It is a Muse song. It's a really good one. How'd they get the rights from Muse? Yeah. They, well... Muse doesn't own the Nights of Syndonia.
Starting point is 01:40:22 Oh. Bellamy is an anime. It's okay. Oh, okay. There was a trailer, and the trailer was for Star Trek Beyond. Fuck it. Okay, wait. Are you sure the trailer was for...
Starting point is 01:40:34 First, I will... Yeah, you tell me. Because I was a baby when any kind of Star Trek was around. First, I will rep Plague's point of view, which would be, boo, that shit sucks. I'm angry. The farm, even the pig. I'm fucking, doesn't like this trailer.
Starting point is 01:40:51 Boo, I'm bald. Well, there's a teddy away from the screen. Plague would say, yeah, enjoy your Star Trek with the slap-happy races and shitty lore. That's correct. I have non-valid opinions on Star Trek, so... Dude, this looks like... I can't even really say it's trash, man.
Starting point is 01:41:07 Like, every, like... The episode me and Matt just talked about, it's not that good. In fact, it's quite bad. But Star Trek is about a bunch of boring space people talking about how to fix the boring engine for, like, 40 minutes. Wait, so why do you hate Gundam again? A, I said, I don't hate Gundam.
Starting point is 01:41:31 And B, anytime I looked at Gundam, I was promised giant robots, and they were talking in a ruse. Space politics. It's not Gundam's fault, Star Trek. It was the TV's fault for being at that moment in time. Star Trek promises two things. A bunch of nerds talking about spaceships, and a Socratic argument that says what if we're in space
Starting point is 01:41:57 and makes up a bunch of hypotheticals to explore social situations. That's why the movies have always been a problem, because they have to be goddamn movies, instead of, like, a boring trip to a planet where the aliens are green and Kurt Fuchs them. So the first one, that was a good space fantasy movie. I think everyone liked that movie. I don't think it's a particularly good Star Trek movie,
Starting point is 01:42:20 but it's a good movie in general. I think that second one's a bad movie in general. I thought it was okay. And also really shitty for Star Trek, and this has Kirk on a fucking motorbike, jumping over Kung Fu, Judo aliens, and shit. Now, Pat, when you say this- Yeah, but what if they get the rock for this?
Starting point is 01:42:38 When you say this and Plague says this- He's actually canonically in Star Trek. You can't reuse him. He's a gladiator in the Delta Quadrant that's seven of nine kills. Any Star Trek fan that might say this. I'm like, yeah, yeah, it's true. It kind of, you know, doesn't really have the heart or, like, what you were saying about it.
Starting point is 01:42:57 But then someone will link me to an onion piece where they go, I'm really disappointed. This was a fun, adventurous movie. This isn't Star Trek. Yeah, that's kind of the sense I got from it, because, I mean, I and I probably have no right to talk anything Star Trek. You can if you want, man, just not willing.
Starting point is 01:43:15 It looked fun. So the thing, the reason it looks fun is because it's directed by one of the guys who did the Fast and Furious series. It literally is. So it's supposed, he is a master at making things look fun. So it's literally like another summer action blockbuster with, we need a brand, what brand can we slap on this?
Starting point is 01:43:37 How about literally the poorest fit ever for a brand? And yeah, and don't get me wrong, I'd be pissed if it was something that, you know, I actually cared about. Hey, I do, how do you, sorry, going back to that onion piece, they go, so Carol, you're there, entertainment correspondent. What do you have on Star Trek?
Starting point is 01:43:54 Star Trek was created by the hack Gene Roddenberry in the 1930s or some shit. And he's like, oh, so Star Trek fans, don't worry, Paramount has released a statement. We're pretty sure that in five years time, these adventurous, awesome movies that are extremely successful will just be as dated and as lame as original Star Treks. And then I'm like, I do the thing where I go, ah.
Starting point is 01:44:18 Well, I think the biggest thing is like, I just, even if it didn't say Star Trek on it, I would not like Into Darkness at all. Space guys. I think that movie sucks. I think Klingons look cool. Yeah. Because they look like predators.
Starting point is 01:44:30 You said that five times before we started recording. But no, whatever. And just this looks like another fucking stupid action movie that I don't care about. Because like, we're attached to it. Yeah, he's a space predator. Does it be average in my mind if it had nothing? He's Space Luther.
Starting point is 01:44:46 But because all this stuff that is the opposite of what it is is attached to it? I'm like, God, come on, God damn it, stop. Do you think that it's sabotaging the brand? So here's the thing. I don't think you'll ever know this. But there, I don't remember the specific companies involved. But I believe Viacom on Star Trek.
Starting point is 01:45:05 And back when Voyager was airing, I think it was Activision. There was a game company that sued Viacom. Because the recent movies and Voyager were so bad that the argument was that the brand that they had sold them for use in video games was now worth shit all. Because the Trek stuff they had put out was garbage. And that was around the time that like, the fucking Star Trek Voyager first person shooter
Starting point is 01:45:32 for PlayStation 2 came out. It was called Delta Squadron. That sounds awesome to play that. Yeah, the joke of like, is it sabotaging Star Trek? No, it might be a reaction to people suing them because they drove Star Trek into the fucking cold, dead earth with Enterprise and Voyager. That game that we play, the co-op one,
Starting point is 01:45:54 was like in the middle of some controversy where JJ Abrams came out and said, man, fuck that piece of shit. They made a bad game and it made our movie look bad. Totally. That's kind of what I wanted to ask. At least if they're dumb co-op bastards. As much as you didn't like Into Darkness
Starting point is 01:46:08 or as much as like, you don't like where this one seems to be going, how did you feel about Star Trek pre-JJ Abrams? Pre-JJ Abrams? The last remnants of what was there. Oh, all the rest of those TNG movies are even... All are terrible. All of the TNG movies, except for First Contact, are awful.
Starting point is 01:46:25 And First Contact is okay. All of the fucking original series movies, except for, like, Wrath of Khan. So it was a poison dwell and some fresh water came out of it. Guess what, Star Trek? Not good for movies. In general. In general.
Starting point is 01:46:44 It just did the... I mean, it makes sense. The way you're describing it is something that's supposed to be more political. It doesn't translate to movies. Final Frontier, the first Star Trek movie, they tried to do just a two-and-a-half-hour-long Star Trek episode, and it is the worst.
Starting point is 01:46:59 But the fact that there are good Star Trek movies doesn't mean it can't be done. It doesn't mean it can't be done. Star Trek 09 is pretty good. Like, it's that argument like, it's not good for the source material, but it's a good movie. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:47:10 It's the fact that... So they're gonna keep trying. To finish answering your question, how did I feel about Star Trek before the movie stuff? Like, Voyager is terrible. And, like, Enterprise takes, like, four seasons to get even watchable at all, and has one of the worst endings to anything ever.
Starting point is 01:47:31 Oh, yeah. I know about it. Like, as far as I was concerned, like, there was TNG in Deep Space Nine, and those shows would exist forever, and the rest of it was just dead. It was just dead forever. Yeah. No, but just all that to say that, like,
Starting point is 01:47:45 you know, Star Trek is a brand that's not a stranger to clunkers. Oh, no. Like, I'd say, like, half of all Star Trek is terrible. So, like, would you put Into Darkness on as bad as the worst of pre... I would put Into Darkness over Insurrection. Or Nemesis.
Starting point is 01:48:06 Or Nemesis. Okay. Because, oh, man. All right. Because those, like... Because that's why I'm like, is it reasonable for me to think that Into Darkness was all right?
Starting point is 01:48:14 No, those are just miserable piles of shit. Those are like... There are Planket reviews for those movies. There we go. There we go. Sure. All right. That's how bad those movies are.
Starting point is 01:48:22 Dave, I see the TMNT 2 trailer. Oh, I saw it. Now, to be perfectly fair, it's like, yeah, just have more mutants and cartoons. Yeah. Have less humans. Have more April dressing up like a schoolgirl. Oh, God.
Starting point is 01:48:37 That was the most cringe-worthy thing. And now... That mandated belly shot. Yeah. Yeah, we're done. Baxter Stocklin's played by Tyler Perry, though. I'm sorry, Liam. I have to, like, confess.
Starting point is 01:48:54 Forgive me for not Father Friar's sinned. I got really hype watching Rocksteady and Bebop for just a minute. You're completely right to do so. With WWE Champion Seamus. Yeah, he's right. I got hype. And Uncle Ruckus.
Starting point is 01:49:06 I got hype, dude. I can't help it. Dude, you're not wrong. Wait, isn't Bebop out of Wale? When he's in pig form and he fixes the mohawk... And he puts us up for mohawk? I was like, okay. That was great.
Starting point is 01:49:18 And then Rocksteady starts running, like animal running. I'm like, aw. And guess what? Guess what, Willie? With that, they got us. They got us. They did it again. Do you want your dog to get you?
Starting point is 01:49:30 They didn't. Well, they didn't get me for the first one. Oh, you didn't go? Oh, you didn't. No. Good on you. Good on you. Good on you.
Starting point is 01:49:34 Good on you. Good on you. Good on stronger man than us. Doesn't it seem like we just finished TMNT Week and just watched the movie? It does. It really does. This must have to be the fastest turnaround for everything.
Starting point is 01:49:44 August 8th. August 8th. I believe so. That's when it was in theaters last year. And now we've got a trailer already. It's crazy. Anyway, yeah. It's kind of like another series.
Starting point is 01:49:55 Sucks will or nets in it. One of August's similar path. Yeah. We've also got a new thing popping up here, The Millionaire Fighting 2016. Sadako versus Kayako. I can't believe this is a thing. This makes no sense.
Starting point is 01:50:10 The Ring versus the Grudge. Two invincible incorporeal ghost characters. Wait. Wait, what? The Ring versus the Grudge. Japan. Japan says we do it. For real reels.
Starting point is 01:50:23 So we're getting it on this versus game. Yep. Slong hair. It's the key dead girl. You know what? You know what? Fuck this. With different rules.
Starting point is 01:50:29 Why stop? Sadako versus Kayako versus Hesako. How awesome would that be? Two characters that are completely invincible and have won every single encounter. In all of their movies. Yeah. They can't be defeated.
Starting point is 01:50:46 I'm really hyped for this because, like Willie said, this is Millionaire Ghost Fighting 2015. Yeah. 16, brother. Also characters that don't fight their opponents, their opponents just die. You can't physically hit these ghosts.
Starting point is 01:50:59 Also, the Grudge's house burnt down. Well, that's the thing is what matters here because I didn't see Freddy versus Jason. But if that's a good movie. But if they adhere to the rules of each character and make that the major way that the fight unfolds, then we got something.
Starting point is 01:51:15 You should watch Freddy versus Jason though. Because that's exactly what they do. There's more pro wrestling in that movie than you would expect right here. More than none. More than none. Yep. Right here.
Starting point is 01:51:25 And not from what you'd expect. Kelly Rowland. Does that mean that these girls are going to be in Mortal Kombat? That's... I put my money down. I put my money down. That's possible.
Starting point is 01:51:36 Kelly Rowland talks about Jason's dick. There we go. Awesome. Yeah. His dick. That's what she says. It's great. Tree-like.
Starting point is 01:51:45 Hey. Anyway. I hear that Hideaki Yano is working on Godzilla. Yeah, he sure is. Is Jungen Ito also working on it, as in the character designer? You saw this finally, right? Yeah, I did.
Starting point is 01:51:59 You saw this lecherous old fuck. I love it. You know this Godzilla? With his pervy Japanese face. There is no nobility in this Godzilla. Just like... Let's... I have the Godzilla 2014 book,
Starting point is 01:52:14 and it is described. They tried to hone in on a noble, ancient looking Godzilla creature. And for Japan, they said, let's model it off that guy down there in that alley. Looking for having that girl. Get him. Getting them underwears.
Starting point is 01:52:31 So, I really like this. People either say it looks like Godzilla's worried that his oven is on, or he's like this weird pervy fish guy. And I like both. I don't like it like it. You know what I mean? Like, I actually have the feelings for it
Starting point is 01:52:46 that they're going for, which is horrifying. They want you to be scared and unnerved by it. And I show that. Yeah, because you don't know what he's going to do to you. The eyeball around the corner is resurging. Don't trust it. It's really creepy, and I like it,
Starting point is 01:53:01 but when people say I don't like it. It's a tiny eyeball, man. I go, yeah, I understand what you mean. It's not cool looking per se, but it's really fucking creepy. The only other thing is that the teaser trailer for this is like, I have nothing to say about it because there's nothing.
Starting point is 01:53:17 It's people running away, and I don't actually like it at all because there's no, it's just people running away. You don't hear anything. There's no footsteps. There's no billing crashing. So, it just feels cheap and lame.
Starting point is 01:53:28 So, the other thing is- I want to see teaser number two, where Godzilla's breathing far all over, and then he just bumps into an AT field, and the teaser ends. Exactly, exactly. Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no. Done, done.
Starting point is 01:53:41 Fucking wrap it up, moving on. Yeah, so, I also hate how it's called resurgence, and the new independence thing- Why did you put that in my head? Also had a trailer. It's also called resurgence. It's crazy. I'm still on the AT field.
Starting point is 01:53:56 I'm sorry, that's the coolest thing in the world. Oh, man. Yeah, this is actually the last Ava movie. He's using his beam to shoot through it. Yeah. Somebody saw X-Com. And the Necrumas. Somebody saw a lot of X-Com.
Starting point is 01:54:12 Before making that movie with Jeff Goldblum. You know what's really great about Independence Day? Striking all the irons hot, right off the heels of Independence Day. 20 years ago. Isn't the movie not coming out on Independence Day? Pretty sure it is. I think it should.
Starting point is 01:54:26 It's coming out in July. I heard it's not. Before. It depends if there's a big movie already penciled in for July 4th. I guess so. Then they'll move it back. But yeah, I don't have anything to say about this.
Starting point is 01:54:37 Yeah. I didn't put it on the docket. So I got nothing. Jeff Goldblum. Oh, it's also called resurgence. Yeah, yeah. Jeff Goldblum coming back is, they had to do that or else that movie has no value.
Starting point is 01:54:49 Yeah. Oh yeah, because Will Smith just said not. Yeah. Will Smith has to talk about the concussions. Yeah, but he was the guy. He was the guy. He was the face of the movie. I wonder how long they tried to convince him.
Starting point is 01:55:00 I wonder if that's what held up. And now what happened is he's probably been 15 years. And he talked to him. He's like, OK, so I'll be in the movie, but I want my son to be. OK, bye. Well, bye. That was the last straw.
Starting point is 01:55:12 I want my son to be the alien king. So instead of Will Smith, it's Liam Hemsworth, I believe. The lesser Hemsworth. Right. The lesser Hemsworth. So he's the soldier pilot guy in this one. So there you go. The Hunger Games Hemsworth.
Starting point is 01:55:26 Hunger Games Hemsworth. The Hunger Games Hemsworth. Hungry Hungry Hemsworth. Hungry Hungry Hemsworth. In the Ear Marbles. All right, so there you go. Like it would be cool if like Bill Pax came back and just did the same thing again.
Starting point is 01:55:40 Again. Every time. How are you still alive? No. Yeah. He's in the trailer. And he does the same speech. Oh, that's great.
Starting point is 01:55:51 Cool. It's like it's just another guy. It's just some other dude. No, I don't know if it's. He's the president again, but he's older. Like this takes place. Do you know the cool thing about this trailer? Guys, Bill Pax said it was not the president in it.
Starting point is 01:56:02 No, not Bill Pax. No, no. Bill Pullman. Bill Pullman. No, no. Bill Pax in was the fucking uh... No, Bill Pullman. Okay, Pullman.
Starting point is 01:56:08 Whatever. Wait, wait, wait. Bill Pax in was who? Wait, wait, wait. Which guy do you mean? Is he the president? Hold on. Are you talking, who are you talking about?
Starting point is 01:56:14 Will you talk about the guy who flies into the ship? That's also not Bill Pax. Bill Pullman plays the president who does the same speech that he did in the first movie about. I actually thought it was the same speech like as in it was a recording of it. It's totally recording.
Starting point is 01:56:29 It's a guy that's quade and he's the guy that drives that stupid ship. Yeah, okay, okay. You're all confused about that. Yes, very much so. No, but he's still alive, I'm sure. Go fly out. But I also heard that they're killing off Will Smith.
Starting point is 01:56:43 And that black guy, he died. Actually, wow. They said, well, they're saying like he died in like an experiment where they were trying to get them the fly aliens or something like that. If you want to know the one cool thing about this trailer, you haven't seen it.
Starting point is 01:56:55 They actually took all the aliens' technology and Earth has become more powerful and they have cool weapons. Oh, nice. Yeah, okay. That's why Pat said someone watched a lot of XCOM. Dude, it looks exactly like XCOM. Also, Bill Paxton is not in Independence Day.
Starting point is 01:57:11 No, Bill Pullman is in Independence Day, yes. Like I just went to check and it's like, no. It's totally my mistake. And when I type in Bill Paxton, Independence Day, the first thing that comes up is Bill Pullman. Is the Bill Paxton or Bill Pullman test? Fuck, instead of their name,
Starting point is 01:57:27 I would say the one who was the president or in Independence Day. Fuck, god damn it, shit. I'm not the only one. You're not alone. Okay, also coming back. It's a common mistake, apparently. A lot of things are coming back, including Shodan.
Starting point is 01:57:43 Dude, System Shock 3 is real. That's nuts. This is like the worst way to announce a game ever. Just hang on to it until, like, instead of just burning through your hype like this. Oh, don't worry. So you have like a trailer, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:57:57 Don't worry. There's no hype for System Shock 3 because nobody knows what that game is. Yeah, no. Yeah. Yo, validated, there you go. So the only people who care is people who know, and they'll be hyped forever.
Starting point is 01:58:07 No, sure. But this just muddled in. Under normal circumstances, you'd be complaining about announcing a game. This gets muddled in with the fact that they, A, just re-released System Shock that was updated. B, are making a full-on remake of System Shock 1. That's happening, too.
Starting point is 01:58:22 Yeah. And they're making a third one. Like, it's a little much. We want that money. We have a franchise. We needed a live yesterday. To be fair, the people behind this, do you have the company names?
Starting point is 01:58:34 I forget. It's a new company that's actually made up developers of Looking Glass. Because whoever's behind this did the, spent the time, did the work, to find the System Shock rights. Like, that was the hardest part. It's Looking Glass people.
Starting point is 01:58:49 It's like, other side. It took them, like, it appears to have taken them like a decade to just find out who owned System Shock. Yeah, okay. It was some obscure accounting firm out in the world. Other side entertainment is making System Shock 3. Night Dive Studios is making the remake of the first game. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:59:05 That's what's going on. I dive for the ones who are like, diving into the grime and finding no one else. Diving into the night. You know, I'm re-releasing, re-releasing my Turox. I'm being censored about not being able to talk about it. No, we just don't care.
Starting point is 01:59:18 No, but that's sensory. Yeah. What do you think of the Shodan face? I didn't see it. Until there's a trailer? Like, not that. Yeah, there was no trailer, man. There's little...
Starting point is 01:59:29 Like, it's so early and the nature's like, this might not come out. There's a voice tease as well. Yeah. That being said, the fact that it's Shodan, ah. That's gonna suck is a whole generation of people saying, man, this sure rips off portal. And Bioshock.
Starting point is 01:59:45 And Bioshock. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So... Hear that penier case. So, here's hoping that Matt and I, in our RE2 playthrough three or four years ago, are dead on the money, and this will in fact be called System Shock 3,
Starting point is 02:00:00 back to the West Coast. Okay. And it was Shodan didn't forget. Well, that's what she says in the line. She says, I didn't forget you, insect. So... Back to the West Coast. That's where it's going.
Starting point is 02:00:13 Um, this is a tidbit that I just thought was fucking hilarious. Yeah, I saw this tidbit. Oscar Isaac, one of the actors from the New Star Wars movie, was getting interviewed, and they were asking him about working with video games and stuff. And he's like, yeah, I did some voiceover work. In fact, my first job was, I worked on some shitty game,
Starting point is 02:00:30 but I got fired from it. And I was like, oh, what was that? Dante's Inferno. And the interviewer was like, oh, wow, that was a shitty game. You dodged the bullet there. Wooly's not paraphrasing. In the interview, they used the word shitty all over the place. Yeah, that's correct.
Starting point is 02:00:46 And I'm like, that was, I love that. That game's not good. He doesn't say what he's voicing. I assume he was voicing either Satan or Dante. Because that's the only, like, character or whatever. But throwing shade on Dante's Inferno now is really stylish. I got fired from some shit. I bet there's a bunch of people,
Starting point is 02:01:08 ADA, that when they go through the list, they hit that and just go, oh, God, what were we thinking? It's all located. Yeah, it was embarrassing. Yeah, but so much worse. But it's like, I don't look at the games I worked on and say, like, like, what a blight on my head. You should know what they should have been.
Starting point is 02:01:26 You should. Well, because of that, but like other games that like THQ and stuff, like when I worked on my coach, like it's not a blight on my career. Every one game. Everyone should be ashamed of everything they have ever worked on.
Starting point is 02:01:38 They usually are. Oh, I know I am. We've got the closing of Pagatsuma Entertainment. Yeah, it's a shame. Not familiar. They've been struggling. They did Umihara Kawase and Code of Princess. Still barely familiar.
Starting point is 02:01:54 That's fine. But Code of Princess, you know, barely. And I know the name. I've heard the name once. They worked on a Drone to Life, one of the, not Drone to Life. Yeah. Drone to Death.
Starting point is 02:02:05 God, there was something they got ready for. Jaffe, you know Jaffe? Oh, that was. Yeah, or Google it real quick. I'll Google it real quick. But yeah, like. Do you draw a tablet? That's it.
Starting point is 02:02:14 They did most recently, yeah, Code of Princess on 3DS, and then the new Umihara on 3DS, which got ported and upgraded to Vita, and then ported and upgraded kind of to PC. The reason it's a kind of is because there's resolution issues on the PC, but Durante fixed it, so.
Starting point is 02:02:30 They charged way too much for that. Best fucking game. You see the fucking, the new, the new Drone to Life, God's marrying it. Like, Lightning. Which one's that one? That is a game that they worked on with Thifth Cell. Isn't that just like a DS port of Drone to Life,
Starting point is 02:02:46 that is, which was made by Thifth Cell? I didn't know that they worked on that. But anyway. They just ported it to the. Japanese devs are better on PC. Did they publish it in Japan? Is that what that looks like? Maybe they did.
Starting point is 02:02:55 See that Lightning Returns shit. Yeah, they were the fucking Steam Cloud. Yeah, they were the fucking Steam Cloud. Trails in the Sky SC in like two days. If Steam Cloud can't connect the game, won't boot. They, perfect. The most Japanese subtitle is God's marionette
Starting point is 02:03:09 on a cutesy drawing game for American kids. How else are you gonna sell it? Okay, but Drone to Life, the final God. Okay, but you guys gotta go on YouTube after and look at the ending cutscene for Drone to Life 2 and be like, oh my God. You've told me. Oh my God.
Starting point is 02:03:27 I can't believe a game like this has a story like that. So, so that marionette shit. You've been without context? Yeah, yeah. Do you know Fetus of God? Well, not quite that far, but yeah. I'll do it. I'll do it in a second.
Starting point is 02:03:40 I'll step up to the plate. Yeah, someone just gotta do it. It's just a Fetus. Yeah. Hey man, you shouldn't be doing that. Someone's gotta. Project Phoenix is delayed till 2018. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:03:50 That game's not gonna come out. You know. Well, it'll come out in 2018. No, it's not. I seriously, seriously doubt that that game that I backed will come out. It's a fucking wreck. We'll see what happens when it happens.
Starting point is 02:04:01 They said the reasons why are because they're getting the guys that worked on the main programmer, the high programmer from Ori and the Blind Forest, but his scheduling conflicts like were super bad and fucked up. So they're not able to start with him until like 2.5 months from now, which means then the development schedule starts ticking, which puts it at 2018. The whole thing's been a wreck.
Starting point is 02:04:24 And like, you know, I know a lot of people don't like me talking about Kickstarter, but like, you know, stuff like Broken Age and Mighty No. 9 got delayed pretty heavily. But this game, this game, that's not even a delay. That's like, we're not even gonna start. Well, the delay is huge. And when they showed in engine stuff, like in terms of like
Starting point is 02:04:42 levels of magnitude, this looks way worse than expected. Even way further. We will all be different people. Project Phoenix and to a lesser extent unsung story are RPGs that I backed on Kickstarter that I hit a point where I went, that's the cost of back and do things on Kickstarter, because I just lost the ability to even believe. I can't even imagine what 2018 is going to be like.
Starting point is 02:05:08 It's so far away. A robot dump. We're all going to be living in the Oculus. Yeah, we're all going to be living in the Oculus. Brennan, if you want to live in the Oculus world. Marcelo Black will be the champ. Yes. Brennan, you and Liam, because we're into that,
Starting point is 02:05:21 we're all going to live in the Oculus world. Which Oculus world would you want to live in? What, like, what do you mean? Make a fictional game reality. Go. Sword Art. I knew it. It's always Sword Art.
Starting point is 02:05:35 You're so right. Sword Art, it's so simple. It's so plain, but it's so right. So right. It is. The sad thing about me, and most many things, is that... Would you live in Sword Art, Matt? This is a cool guy in our podcast.
Starting point is 02:05:47 Speaking of sad things, is that I date my dates about... What's that you're going to be? I date it by when I know a movie's coming out. Godzilla 2. The American Legendary of Godzilla. Comes out, so that's how I date that. Before I forget, there will never be another time to say this, but did you guys see that the guy who writes Log Horizon
Starting point is 02:06:06 is getting strung up on tax charges? Oh, wow. So do you remember my biggest complaint, is that the entire story of Log Horizon is an MMO guild leader gaming the world economy, and cheating all over. That's the joke. Well... That's the joke.
Starting point is 02:06:22 Now that guy's going to jail for taxing each other. Okay. Log Horizon sucks. I think I'd pick Dot-Hack. Just so I could listen to the music. You don't get to listen to the music. That's the little cannon. That music ain't cannon.
Starting point is 02:06:36 No, the music is from the TV show. It's from the TV show. Shit. We don't get to listen to Crossing Field. You don't get to listen to Seasaw. No. Then I don't play. Then you don't play.
Starting point is 02:06:46 Then I don't play. I don't put the headphones on. It's a real war block of loser. There's nothing left out here. We get to enjoy our muscles atrophying. Now, here's the thing. Bren and Liam, what you gotta do is you gotta hire somebody to come in and clean the shit out of your ass.
Starting point is 02:07:02 Because if you're going to stay in there seven days a week, you're going to have to let it go. I just can't wait until I get that cloud-striped body. And cut a hole through the floor. That's right. It works. It works. I want to atrophy until I look like cloud.
Starting point is 02:07:16 That's not atrophied. He's toned, man. He looks like he's dying. Absolutely. And it's the freakiest thing. And that's exactly how he's supposed to look. Because he's a mutant. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:07:28 He should look like that. I'm not saying he shouldn't. I'm just saying he shouldn't be able to. He's got tiny little muscles, but huge forearms and huge shoulders. You want the Popeye look? Yeah. At least Popeye look like he could hold that sword. We have a report coming in that there are no more,
Starting point is 02:07:50 but no fewer than 420 copies of Devil's Third for sale at GameStop in America. Amazing. Insane. So there's a term we've used a bunch of times on this podcast and throughout various videos, and everyone should be familiar with it. It's the phrase, sent to die. It has never, ever been more applicable than it is for this game right now. I know, because I can think of one.
Starting point is 02:08:16 Really? Fatal Frame 5, fucker. Does Devil's Third have a digital release? Yes. Okay. Well then, okay. Then Fatal Frame was sent to time ago. No, Fatal Frame had a physical release in Europe.
Starting point is 02:08:29 Okay. Fatal Frame would have done better than Devil's Third. I don't know. I think it would have. It at least got released during Halloween. Like just on its name it would have done better than Devil's Third. Is the reign of oatmeal over? No.
Starting point is 02:08:45 Did he have the reigns? There was a point. One. Was he waiting? For like two seconds. Is there a close? When he was doing Ninja Gaiden Black and DOA, it was a big name. The day after Ninja Gaiden Black came out, somebody handed the reign into the pool of oatmeal.
Starting point is 02:09:02 Fair enough. And they still did DOA 4 after that, so yeah. Here's the thing, and usually when these situations happen, we kind of lament like, oh it sucks. Me and Liam recently finished Devil's Third. It's not great. So hey, no. No, that's not the right way to look at it.
Starting point is 02:09:18 Well the right way to look at it is like, if you're unable to buy the game in North America, we have this thing on our channel where we do a follow-up of the entire game. Now there's no way anyone would be unable to buy it because you can. You shop, yeah. But if you want a retail version of it, you can. No, it's limited copies. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:09:35 But the copy I ordered from Amazon, they're like, we don't know when we're going to get them. And the answer to that question is probably never. No, these tea fucking get them. These tea could have done was signed them all. I guess. Yeah. Oatmeal. Smoked like sprinkles, smoked oatmeal every day.
Starting point is 02:09:53 There was a joke amongst people who look at like, media creates sales every week in Japan, where like, next week Microsoft is going to start listing Xbox One owners by name as opposed to putting out a number. That joke has been going around for like eight or nine years. I adore that joke. Whenever it comes up. Because it's more true every time it's told. Like every time it's told, the sales get more pathetic.
Starting point is 02:10:16 Yeah. Oh well. There you go. Because I just saw there was that interview with the guy from Nintendo that was like the 3DS outsold the PS4 and the Xbox One and we're in a tire. What a stupid thing to say. He's not wrong. He's not wrong.
Starting point is 02:10:38 But that's like saying the PS1 sold better than both of them. That's like when any publisher says the PlayStation family or the Nintendo family family was not you. And the secret double code for that is please don't ask me about Wii U sales. Please. Well and the other secret double code is please don't ask too much about 3DS sales in the west. Like it was really stupid. And don't ask me about the NX.
Starting point is 02:11:05 In fact, let's not talk about anything. Goodbye. Moving on. Hey, cool news for anyone who lives around us. Around us? Yeah. Okay. Bethesda Montreal and Gearbox Quebec.
Starting point is 02:11:18 Cool. It's happening. It's really cool. It's almost like Quebec gives absurd tax incentives to video game companies. Here's two things. People ask, I saw someone say, why are all these studios open up in like that area right now? There's two reasons. Except one reason.
Starting point is 02:11:35 One reason. A bunch of people got fired from Ubisoft. Also because there's where do we go? Seriously, they'll like killer tax breaks. And when the school pumps out a bunch of people that have no place to go. And when you have like a huge amount of layoffs there like Matt's talking about, there's a certain amount of employees that aren't going to move to a different country for their job.
Starting point is 02:11:59 No, they're going to band together. So it makes sense that if there's that many companies already here, there's a talent pool here now. And that's awesome. We're often butthurt about how we're not in LA and around the cool stuff. But if we just sit and buy our time, the game industry would build itself around us. The butthurt comes when you're talking to someone via email and they're telling you to come to LA to see something that's less than a kilometer from your home.
Starting point is 02:12:26 That's where the butthurt happens. Like that's like so and that's going to take a while before there's a Quebec like E3 or game show. It'd be nice if we could get another one. It'd be nice. Arcadia. Well Arcadia was like neat, but it was obviously not. It just wasn't good. It just wasn't good enough.
Starting point is 02:12:43 It was neat, but it didn't really go anywhere. I think like I would really like it for Montreal to get that at some point. Now I feel there's enough developers to hold like a little thing. I think now's the time. Yeah, like so I don't know who's the right person, but put packs out here. But it's a boss. It is not ten minutes away. That's not ten minutes.
Starting point is 02:13:01 It's not ten minutes, but yeah. It doesn't have that amount of stuff going on, but like for the packs size, but a con would be cool. Yeah, like a new games. Come on. Come on guys. Hey, Brandon, if people want to send us a letter, where should they send it? They should probably send it to the super best friendcast at gmail.com. Not only is the address perfect, his tone, he said it at all.
Starting point is 02:13:27 It was very appropriate. It's almost like I listen to this podcast every Wednesday while I'm at the gym. What was that address again, Marcellus? Super best friendcast at gmail.com. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you better, Woolly. You should just call him Woolly.
Starting point is 02:13:44 I thought according to Canon that I replaced Woolly a long time ago. I was killed and I'm replaced. Yeah, I shot it. I shot it doing two voices, right? Bad. I went bad, kayfake. Yeah, this is actually all in a leather ruse. You know, so he's not really Woolly 2.0.
Starting point is 02:13:58 He's just Woolly and I was nothing. Yeah, so. I'm the current Woolly. It's like Thor. We should record a video where we just lie. Can you like all the ones where we just lie? Yeah, no. I really like Bloodborne, they say.
Starting point is 02:14:14 Oh, no, I do. I do. I do like Bloodborne. Ah, you're feeling it now, aren't you? I had a moment last night. The one time, like you've had what, 24 hours of getting to the shit? No, it was a full week. It was just yesterday.
Starting point is 02:14:28 Yesterday was the first day. All right, let's fast forward a year. Let's see where that puts you. No bueno. I appreciate the kind words, though. No, there was a moment there that I went to Woolly on Facebook and said, hey, Woolly, I apologize. Back when you got all super butt hurt over them comments about Dark Souls and stuff,
Starting point is 02:14:46 I'd just be all like, don't look at the comments, you idiot. And then I had my moment of weakness and I was like, oh, God, this is some dark shit to eat. Eat your shit. Eat your dark shit. So I'm sorry, Woolly. Sometimes you eat shit that never even existed. That's correct. Because I do like Jessica Jones.
Starting point is 02:15:06 That's awesome. No, it's not. That's awesome. You can't remember that. Like, June, it was big. Not too long after he shows up. I was like, what the fuck is happening? Why do I hate Jessica Jones?
Starting point is 02:15:20 And it's playing the whole situation. Like, Plague was like, why did you pick that letter? And I'm like, because it's the best. It's the best. Oh, man. We got one coming in from Shane. And Shane wants to know, hey, Zavatsu, often during your videos on the podcast, you guys talk about the boss from Snake Eater and how awesome and emotional the fight scenes were.
Starting point is 02:15:39 That's correct. I didn't really get the same feeling and I didn't skip any cut scenes. Am I playing it wrong? I'm missing something. No, you just trash. Wow. You're headless. You didn't look at the screen.
Starting point is 02:15:51 No, all it means is that you did not personally get invested in the story like we did. Or you were kind of told that those were good, so you went in waiting for them to be good. That's the worst. Are you a big anime fan? If not, you might not like it. Because I played MGS3 without even really knowing that the boss is like a thing. But you knew it was an anime and you knew you were getting into anime. Chad, see MGS secretly anime.
Starting point is 02:16:15 You want that medal here, Brennan? I'm actually in the process of getting on. Good. Because I really wanted to and I got the MGS3 for the DS from a friend. That's the best version. I didn't know that, but I just knew it existed. So I got that, I'm going to play that, and then I'm going to play the ground zeroes, and then I'm going to play the newest one.
Starting point is 02:16:39 That's fine. I was told that was a completely acceptable way to do this game. Thank you, there's a fantastic game. I would highly suggest going back and playing one and two, but that's because I think those games are awesome. Oh yeah, I intend on playing all of them. You play one and two, you got to play four. There's no point in that.
Starting point is 02:16:54 But they're all great. They're all great. Yeah, time. Sephirgrim is real. If you ever find yourself having finished them all, please try Acid, because you're either going to love it, love it, love it, or kind of just disregard it. Unless that time would have been spent playing Revengeance, in which case throw Acid out and play Revengeance.
Starting point is 02:17:13 So that's a code on the podcast. Liam is advising people to do Acid. There we go. Yeah, do Acid. Do drugs. Do Acid while you hate injustice. Do Acid every day. Do Acid with your parents and your grandparents.
Starting point is 02:17:26 Everyone loves Acid, so I'm going to take some Acid now. I hate Jessica Jones. No, it's better. Because you're on Acid. I hate listening to Pat talk about Star Trek. Oh, do you? Who knows? He's on Acid.
Starting point is 02:17:40 You wouldn't even be wrong. Here, we got one coming in from Echo, and she says, hey, super movie going. Friends, long time listener. You were a cool doll from once. Maybe. More or less, it's curious. I'm curious about how you guys always have discussions
Starting point is 02:17:56 about movie festivals and all kinds of theaters and foreign film and stuff. While living near Baltimore, I don't really get the chance to go out to those things. So, like, how do I? Where do you go through the garden? Don't be in fucking Baltimore is the main thing. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:18:13 You need to get out of there while you're still alive. I'd say almost any major city must have something. So just- No, not no. No, must have something. No, not a big thing. Girl, put your good shoes on and get moving. What you could honestly do
Starting point is 02:18:28 is you can just download the Fantasia Film Festival list and watch them in other methods. Some other method. And you'll probably get a similar experience. You'd set up your own little festival down with vacans. You can. Not every- Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 02:18:42 Say what's up to Chris down there. Hey, Chris, does this house good? I want to do a movie thing. No, not that house. Not that house. No, no, no, don't go in there. I'm sorry. But for a serious answer, I mean,
Starting point is 02:19:00 like just run a Google search on your exact town or the area you live in Baltimore. See if there's any sort of movie festivals all year. And if not, fucking just start your own. You know any friends that really into movies? You know, pick a theme. You know, maybe you can even rent a theater and you know it has a big screen.
Starting point is 02:19:17 You know, kind of make your own because you know, watching movies is best when you watch it with like a bunch of good friends. Maybe there's a club at a local college or something. Maybe there's a club at a local college. Good, uh, good ultimate route. Propto's movie night. Just look at new releases in every country.
Starting point is 02:19:31 That's what, that's pretty much what Fantasia is, 80%. Guess what? There's a lot of movies out there. Just stick your hand in and stuff. I'm bugging Fantasia so hard. You better get Creepy Perf Godzilla next year. Here's some advice that I'll repurpose for Matt. Don't watch Knock Knock.
Starting point is 02:19:47 You watched it? No, but somebody- You watched that clip? Somebody sent me that fucking clip, man. Oh, Keanu. All happened. He happened. Lazy sends one saying,
Starting point is 02:19:58 I was watching a trailer for the New Gardens Galaxy 2 movie and I was disappointed with how boring it looked. Then the trailer, then the title came up as Star Trek Beyond. Yeah, that's right. So. Oh, hey. I was wondering where that was going.
Starting point is 02:20:10 That's dead on. I wish those roles were as good as Gardens of the Galaxy. I also wish that. Yeah. Which? I'll answer the second and you know. Hey, the story will be good. Maybe they cut it to be a trailer to go,
Starting point is 02:20:24 hey, look how cool and awesome it is. Maybe they cut the trailer for the normal cools. Yeah, not us cools. Maybe they showed all of the action and the whole movie is just going to be space politics. So, hey, this is our last- I can hope. And there's just like a 10 minute
Starting point is 02:20:37 balls to the wall action sequence at the beginning before like you burn your ass off for the rest of the movie. Yeah, okay. Perfect. I was gonna say, this is our last podcast before The Force Awakens. And I was talking to this to someone, how cool is it that,
Starting point is 02:20:50 I don't know what the fuck it's about. Oh, yeah. Then you need to- Oh, it's so good. Then you don't watch the letter media as much as you might as you should. No, but like it's, I tried to dodge all info and it was super easy to sign.
Starting point is 02:21:01 It wasn't even part of it. I don't know what it was about. I've dodged. So, come- That was my biggest complaint about the whole Batman vs. Superman trailer. Oh yeah, I know everything now, right? It was, oh cool.
Starting point is 02:21:11 The entire plot of the movie. Yeah, look bad. Compared to like video games, like I've been spoiled on a ton of shit for Bloodborne, right? And I can't avoid it. It's been trivial to avoid the Force Awakens stuff unless you search for it. The only thing I saw was that one Stormtrooper design.
Starting point is 02:21:24 Yeah. And it's amazing. And guess what? I've watched every single piece of official released footage that I can find and I still don't know much of it, except when I watched the red letter media breakdown.
Starting point is 02:21:35 But that's all just guesses. So hopefully it's a good thing that we don't know much of. The only thing that I've seen spoiler related is a list of things that don't happen. Yeah, anti-spoilers. So yeah, no, that's fantastic. Mark wants to know who's the strongest old man character?
Starting point is 02:21:51 Who's the strongest old man character ever? Oro is pretty good. Tarot is a good one. Tarot Furu, very strong. Like not just fighting games. Like Turtle Hermit? Turtle Hermit's pretty high up there. I assume, yeah, he doesn't say fighting games, does he?
Starting point is 02:22:07 Yeah, he actually does say fighting games. Okay, okay. If it's fighting, if it's... Oro's way up there on that list. Is Heihachi older yet? Jinpachi, Heihachi is older. Jinpachi's even older. Jinpachi's even older and even stronger.
Starting point is 02:22:21 Jinpachi, I think Jinpachi. Jinpachi's stronger than fucking Oro. How old's Captain Sawada? At this moment, he's a young cool man. I'd probably go with Oro. Hold on, hold on. Oro is Jinpachi. Who defeats Jinpachi canonically?
Starting point is 02:22:37 No one, Angel? God? It's either Kazumi or Jin. I think it's Jin. I thought it was Jin. It is Jin. But he's not really an old man. Heihachi doesn't beat him, yeah.
Starting point is 02:22:47 I know Heihachi doesn't, but in Jin and Kazumi's endings, they kill him. Yeah, Kazumi had that sweet ending where he has his happy memories and then he just rips his heart out. Kazumi's the worst, man. They're all the worst. No, Kazumi's the worst. Heihachi's the worst.
Starting point is 02:23:04 You cannot be Mishima and not be the worst. Because then you count the fucking grandma from Power Instinct. Power Instinct, Fanny. She's pretty strong. She's super tough. We're probably old enough to be old enough. No, no, great. Haggar's going to be great.
Starting point is 02:23:17 Haggar's middle age. He didn't get aged up. He's dad tier. Only in Street Wise, they put like one small streak of gray in here. Magneto's pretty strong. Magneto's really strong. He's not old though. He's great.
Starting point is 02:23:28 He's old. He was in the Holocaust. Yeah, exactly. The comic. Brennan's right. Sorry, what? He was in the Holocaust. He was in the Holocaust.
Starting point is 02:23:36 Yeah, but the comic's never drawn to be an old man. He's always buff. Yeah, but he's old. But he's supposed to be like something old. It's like 90 years old. Yeah, but you know what? Peter Parker was in the fucking Holocaust too. Is M. Bison old?
Starting point is 02:23:49 M. Bison is old in Street Firefall. M. Bison is old, but also not old ever because he's body switches. Yeah, but he's old. Yeah. I'm going to give it to Oro. Oro can do like almost anything that Magneto can do, but he doesn't do it by a force of will. Gens pretty strong too.
Starting point is 02:24:05 Gens pretty hard. Well, you're drawing the line. It's not just old because there's, you know, there's like ancient, like ogres old. Yeah, but ogre gets like normal ogre, gets punked out by Paul Phoenix. Yeah, but ancient ogre gets punked out by Jinn. He's also an alien.
Starting point is 02:24:23 Yeah, he's also an alien. Yeah, well, it's because like the way I see it is like, we all know how ridiculous a kuma is, right? And in Third Strike, Ryu and a kuma are like, they're getting there, right? They're getting closer. And then, but Ryu and Oro is like an infinite, infinite distance apart.
Starting point is 02:24:43 A kuma is so ridiculous that he keeps his hair color fresh. Yeah. No, in Third Strike, he has gray in his hair. He has wing tips in Third Strike, where he's just starting to let go. Meanwhile, Gokin is like full on horseshoe with the ponytail. Yeah, that's true. You know, we got one coming in from...
Starting point is 02:25:01 I wish I had a kuma hair instead of whatever it is. Bobby just wants to know if... If you've watched any of The Simpsons in the last seven years... I'm not familiar with the show. Because the Christmas episode this year and apparently a couple of other random episodes have been actually not that bad. I'm not up to watching a full season to see two good episodes.
Starting point is 02:25:20 I haven't, just because I don't have TV. I'm sure if I had TV, I would absolutely mind it to be like, oh, it's all in. And since we're all like Netflix or something, like I'd watch it, I guess. Yeah. But God, that must be the biggest coup ever. And Netflix got all of The Simpsons.
Starting point is 02:25:33 No, just the first nine. The one I want is fucking South Park. Like, get South Park. I want that. I can't watch it on their website because it's US... Like, it's proxy, US only. I'm sure. You can download the episode.
Starting point is 02:25:44 It's about US only as well. Yeah, Hulu is US only. That's true, yeah. I'm sure there's some way you could figure out how to watch it. I figured it out. Yeah. Speaking of our borders, Jonathan wants to know... Charlotte.
Starting point is 02:25:58 If we... Charlotte, if we... Does the back down of the Canadian dollar affect your judgment to buy stuff overseas? Laura. No. Is the YouTube money decent enough to... Yeah.
Starting point is 02:26:12 It's not about... It's not about the YouTube money. It's about my desire. My desire for these things. It's strong enough that I'll be flying. I buy almost nothing overseas anyway. Whenever I see the price difference and the jump when PayPal translates it, I go, whew, but I buy it anyway.
Starting point is 02:26:29 You make that noise that Hugo made at the step one of the Shinshore U, which is wharf wharf. I don't actually know what the Canadian dollar to Yen exchange rate is right now. I imagine it's bad. It's bad also. But whenever I order something, I don't even ask. I just put it in the basket. Don't look it.
Starting point is 02:26:49 Don't look. And say, okay, charge it to my PayPal. I think we're all in the same place as that once we've made the decision to buy a stupid thing that we don't need that's too expensive. It doesn't matter how expensive it is beyond the point. Now, the thing that's really bad is when I go to, since we just went to LA, it took out American cash. Oh, it hurts, dude.
Starting point is 02:27:08 So I go, can I have this much? And they go, okay, it'll cost you this much. Yep. And the last time I went is when, of course it would. Yeah, yeah. And she just looked, I'm sorry. I'm like, it's not your fault. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:27:23 No, no, like I got. It's worse when you're actually in the States. At the airport, that lady that works behind the thing gave me a, are you sure? Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's like, I need cash, man. I don't know. We got one coming in from Jeremy, and he wants to know. Sid, Jeremy?
Starting point is 02:27:40 Jeremy. Okay, because Jeremy's like a cool nickname. Jeremy. It's actually pretty interesting. I didn't know about this, but hey, Matt and Woolley, specifically trying to ask us, there's an artist by the name of Noah Bradley, and he made a post, and he links to it. Summary, summary, summary is his post is don't go to art school,
Starting point is 02:27:57 and it's about how it's a super waste of your time and money, and how you can teach yourself, and how it's ultimately, in the end, not going to guarantee you anything. I have a whole thing on that, but to keep it short, that's exactly what I said to a lot of people. One of the most telling things for me was back in those college days, when I was planning to go to a $15,000 art school, and in the second year of college, one of the guys from that school
Starting point is 02:28:27 left it to come to the program I was in, and was like, no, don't go over there. His money's burnt, and he's fucking screwed, and he's trying to learn shit from where we were at at the time. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You could honestly probably do a lot better at a normal college program, not a specialized program, but if you're on your own, there's a ton of resources that you can teach yourself.
Starting point is 02:28:48 Maybe 15 years ago, it would have been a good option, but nowadays, it's like, yeah, if you are really observant, you can take critiques well. You can look at people like Plague, or Mothman, or whatever, that are doing let's draws, and you watch them stream. You can learn so much by doing that. You can find online tutorials. I remember Two Snacks did that amazing thing
Starting point is 02:29:13 about how he animates years ago. The people, you see comments, and this helps so much. And I know someone personally that for four years wasted all their money going to one of these really, really expensive colleges that have, that are colleges that have posters of, look, someone that worked, that went here, worked on Dinosaur, by Disney, an awful looking movie. So there'll be lots of places that try to do that,
Starting point is 02:29:41 but honestly, if you, like I said, are really observant and have some degree of talent, you can learn a lot just by staying at home and keeping at it. Just school, staying in drops. It seems to me that art school is only decent for people who are great artists already. You know what? You're not wrong. People who are, like, that is their career path set,
Starting point is 02:30:05 because they're so good in the first place. It seems to me like that's the only people. Two people in my program got jobs before graduating out of the program. Which implies that they didn't need the program at all. But no, you learn skills. You learn a lot, but yes. If you're not a good artist to begin with,
Starting point is 02:30:22 or if it's just an interest or something. If you're hoping school will make you a good artist, yeah, there you go. That's where you're mistaken. Yeah, yeah. You need talent already. I found that out. And what you have.
Starting point is 02:30:32 You're a decent artist, Matt. No, you drew the Berserk title card. Everyone saw your Lulu art. It's there. Oh yeah, me and Pledger. No, hold on, Matt. Me and Pledger might do a video. Don't take my compliment too strongly.
Starting point is 02:30:43 I didn't say you're a good artist. No, no, I know. No, that's fine. But here's the thing. It's like, here's a skill set that you thought you had. Then you realize you'll never get anywhere with it, because you're just not good enough. Don't forget the top set.
Starting point is 02:30:59 And then it makes you go, oh, man. There are plenty of guys just like you all over the world. I'm not the best. Why not? Why even try? Yeah. I mean, it's not to say, because let's say I had went through that path now with the amount, just the stuff I said,
Starting point is 02:31:15 the amount of things that are available online. And if I had stuck with it and not gone through all this YouTube journey, you know, it might be a lot better now. And you might be a lot better now. You might be sticking with it too. But at the same time, I would change nothing, you know? Because the shit I learned specifically in the more technical program that I took was it's so helpful in just everyday shit.
Starting point is 02:31:39 And in general, that I'm like, I'm so happy with it. And also that's the problem with time travel. That is the problem. Like Matt says, like if I had to do it again, it's like if I had to do this shit again, I'd be terrified that I would change just one minor thing. Yeah. And that would end up with me not getting here.
Starting point is 02:31:52 Oh shit, I married my own grandpa. Whoops. These will all be storylines explored in my recipe. Oh my god, Brennan, I love you. Write it down. So basically, just don't try, don't go to school. Stay on the internet all day. Work for us.
Starting point is 02:32:08 Become a wrestler. That's the way. That will help your art career. Like the fact that that punchline is a reality is amazing. So cool. We're also in an interesting place. Ugh. Not to say that schools are completely like,
Starting point is 02:32:26 art schools could be worth this. Yeah. It's a long shot. No, no. And I found out that the head of my art program, like step down like last summer or whatever, was replaced by someone in my class. That's my age.
Starting point is 02:32:41 Like it's fucking nuts. It's a fucking promotion. What are you doing here, bro? Yeah, there are pathways to take, but you need talent already. You do. Okay, Chris wants to know how you explain your jobs to people who don't know anything about that. Depends who you're talking to.
Starting point is 02:33:00 Usually the best way to do it, the best, the most clean answer you can get is when you're going through customs and they say, what do you do? Yeah. Do they always give you that fucking look? If you tell them, well, the real deal? There we go.
Starting point is 02:33:11 Yeah. I just go, I produce videos. Yes, that's what I say also. I'm a video producer for YouTube. That's my link, dude. Yeah. And if somebody drills down more. I make sex videos.
Starting point is 02:33:23 Which is every cab driver ever. Yep. You explain slightly more and they go, oh yeah, oh, I've been thinking about getting into that. My kids have. How's the money work out? Remember when we got that Uber driving LA, we were explaining, he's like,
Starting point is 02:33:37 yeah, so how many awards did you win at the game awards? No, we just, we just played the games. He's like, no, but how many did you win though? No nation, no, no, no. You should have told them all the awards, bro. All that we won all the awards. I won Best Multiplayer. That's true.
Starting point is 02:33:50 Of course, that was true. Spicy award, dude. Yeah. Well, basically, yeah, that's it. Video producer. And then when you have to elaborate, I say dick jokes over video games. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:33:59 It's you put the microphone right up to your buck hole. And just, just let it go. And magic. Well, no, wasn't it matching, no, it was mashing your dick into the lens of the camera. No, it was, this channel is on a slow motion journey to just being a penis mashed into a camera. There you go.
Starting point is 02:34:15 Yeah. People always assume my job, which is kind of annoying. What do they assume your job is? When I was a football, when I was a football player, everybody just assumed I was a football player, which made it really hard to not try and be a, or not, like, you know, just walk around is just like, yeah, I don't really want to talk to anybody.
Starting point is 02:34:35 No, you're kind of like pigeon-gold in that way. Yeah, exactly. Especially when you're around, like, you know, I've always lived by the stadiums that I worked at. So they're like, oh, you play for, you know, such and such. He's that guy. Yeah. To be fair, Brennan, you are basically a man-sized action figure.
Starting point is 02:34:53 Yeah. But as I, something I had growing up, it's something my brother had who's taller than me was, oh, you should play football. You did play football. And as a get, we do. We did. Yes, that's correct.
Starting point is 02:35:06 So, no, like. And that's, well, the other thing is when I stopped, and I was like, yeah, I'm done. I'm done with this. And I was kind of like down on it. And I still went out. And then I'm still, you know, hey, you play football. I was like, no, no.
Starting point is 02:35:19 And they're like, oh, well, you should. You got to be somewhere. I was like, well, I was. That's just great. Maybe I will. Yeah. Now is the time to start. You know what?
Starting point is 02:35:35 I had 24 years old. We'll begin my NFL. Your speech motivated me. You didn't need to go to training camp. Just watch videos online of guys playing football. And you'll get good. Oh, yeah, totally. I played that.
Starting point is 02:35:49 You know, yeah. Training camp is overrated. You just pay a bunch of money. And it's not worth it. Play Blitz the League. Oh, that's how you break the testicles open. That's how. Well, sperm is always flying around.
Starting point is 02:35:59 That's not how it works. Well, in Blitz League, it's sort of how it works. I guess you're right. You ever saw that cutscene? No. Dude, it's like photo realistic. It shows an intestinal camera of your balls exploding and sperm hits the screen.
Starting point is 02:36:11 Yeah. You know what? When you were sending around videos, it says football tackle balls explosion. I didn't click on it. It just says Blitz the League. Oh, brutal tackles. We're just laughing it up back there.
Starting point is 02:36:24 Are they stupid that it exists? I think Johnny V worked on that fucking game. And Adam Boyz might have the show. Yeah. Never forget any given Sunday. Emotion captured it. Oh, you remember Sniper? You remember Sniper Elite Volume 2
Starting point is 02:36:37 where they had an entire trailer dedicated to shooting Hitler in the balls? Yeah. You mean E.T.? Yeah, that's right. E.T. Strong. Hitler, the E.T. of Earth.
Starting point is 02:36:49 How do you know he wasn't? Yeah. Zach says, hey, guys. Yeah. It's a strong, like, long cut on that preview video. Yeah, I like that. Yeah. I just wanted to write and let you know
Starting point is 02:37:01 I'm really enjoying the Wolfenstein old blood playthrough. And recent episodes had Matt dropping references to the new order of space levels, which seemed to interest Pat. Yadda, yadda, yadda. What do you think? Made me someday?
Starting point is 02:37:12 Nah. Nah. Nah. No. Sick. Okay. Pat'll never go to space. Old Blood is the game we're playing
Starting point is 02:37:18 because the game we were going to play broke. Yeah, the disc physically broke. The disc is physically broken. And Matt pulls out the list. You know, the disc is, like, Tom. It's dirty and fluffy. Matt pulls out the list. Like, here's the backups.
Starting point is 02:37:33 Like, and we're looking at those. Like, we can make jokes about this. He's just, oh, Hitler. Oh, great. Yeah. Hitler's an easy target. I got, like, 100 Hitler jokes. You can't fight us.
Starting point is 02:37:41 Nobody likes Hitler. Nobody. Exactly. Nobody likes all that. Right, Brandon, you know. That's a low-hanging fruit. This guy knows. Somebody else knows.
Starting point is 02:37:49 We're shooting Nazi's and talking shit. Like, this is the easiest enemy to talk shit about and make fun of everyone. I think the problem is that a whole lot of people like Hitler. Oh, hey, hey, hey, hey. You got it. Oh, that's crazy.
Starting point is 02:38:02 And lastly, we got one comment from Phil. And Phil says, all right, let's say for sport. Okay. The accented versions of yourselves, like your French accent, Quebec accent, English, Russian, Swiss, South American, et cetera, we're all separate people.
Starting point is 02:38:16 Separate people who developed different stereotypes that come up with that accent are all locked in a room and they have to fight to the death. Who comes out alive? You're the biggest one. So whichever one you are. No, no, you're saying us separate ones.
Starting point is 02:38:32 All the woollies in a room. All the mats in a room. All that fighting each other. The entire council of woollies. The entire council of woollies locked in a room. Oh, I know which one. The one, the version of me that's actually Irish. Probably when.
Starting point is 02:38:47 No, you're right. When you do your Irish accent, you're never very aggressive for anything. But you remember how I used to get when I drank. But you remember how I used to get when I drank. I feel like Russian woolly would kill everything. Is there such a thing as Russian black people? Probably.
Starting point is 02:39:03 Oh, okay. It just strikes me as the Russian version would win in all. Exactly. Guess what? Mine is also a Russian map because I kind of feel that it's the stronger accents of any of them.
Starting point is 02:39:14 And I feel more aggressive when I fake my Russian accent. So I feel like he would fight the most. Like if there was a black person growing up in Russia, all the more reason why they hired that map. Yeah, he would be even tougher. That guy's probably super tough. Damn. Yeah, so it's three Russians and an Irish.
Starting point is 02:39:34 Yeah, that's good. That's good. That's good. That's stable. Which Brennan wins. It's good stable. Yeah, which Brennan wins. Like before he even said it, I would say Russian.
Starting point is 02:39:43 Yeah. Same reasons. This is Soviet Brennan wins. This is how alcoholics sit calm waiting to happen. Either that or Samurai Brennan. Yeah. Yeah, okay. Not Japanese Brennan, just Samurai.
Starting point is 02:39:55 Yeah, Samurai Brennan. I like it. He's always equipped. All right. What is coming up on the channel? Let's come up on channel. We got, listen to the Star Wars thing. There's a movie coming out.
Starting point is 02:40:11 That started yesterday. It's Monday, right? Holy shit, that went up today. Yeah, went up today. Week of time travel. Week of Star Wars is rolling. Exactly. We are time traveling into the future as we speak.
Starting point is 02:40:22 Please look forward to us incorrectly and hilariously narrating every Star Wars title crawl. That's correct. That's editing most of these videos. That's the funniest part I laugh every time. Hey man, who made the interest for them? They're real nice. Yeah, that would be Phil that's made a lot of our great
Starting point is 02:40:39 intros like No More Heroes and Glockham Nail and Shitstorm 4. A little thing called Reboot. All good stuff. A little intro. Didn't make too much of a splash. Wasn't anything besides the best intro on our fucking channel. So the best thing I can say about Week of Star Wars is that even though it's a full week,
Starting point is 02:40:58 there will be more than seven games in Week of Star Wars. Oh, because there's a whole Galaxy of games. That's crazy. And there's so many we left on the floor. There's so many. I don't know. I don't think Devil's Third's ending this week because of Week of Star Wars, right?
Starting point is 02:41:11 Yeah, no. Week of Star Wars is pushing everything. Yeah, a little bit. There will be everything that you're currently watching or not will continue to show up. Should be about the same except for the big Star Wars. Yeah, there will be more Bleets Ball. Blitzball is the shit, man.
Starting point is 02:41:27 Blitzball is amazing. Yeah, this guy knows. It's good in theory. Blitzball is awesome. In theory it is. No, it's great. I want to play Swimming Soccer. Groundball.
Starting point is 02:41:36 Groundball is better, though. Dude, so good. Everybody can breathe the water there, though. Yeah, I think in the universe, they literally just hold their breath the whole time. Well, people have been sending in comments, so I've gotten a lot of explanations for a bunch of dumb shit. It's so nuts, but I think the actual justification
Starting point is 02:41:53 is that the matches only last like three minutes and they hold their breath the whole time. They have really good holding their breath stuff, but there is a device. Oh, there is a device? And you do see one of them pull it out to hand it to Tidus in the future. Oh, really?
Starting point is 02:42:05 But it gets knocked away and you don't really see him take it. But I'm saving a lot of updates for the next session we record. Oh, where is it? Oh, dude, some people have told me about hidden systems in FF10. Oh, yeah, they're stuff. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 02:42:18 I know the one you're thinking of. Talk to the people. Yeah, yeah, yeah, you know. Gotta talk to people. That's crazy. That's one of the craziest systems ever. What do you guys look forward to? Tony Hawk Pro Skater 5 on PS3 and 360.
Starting point is 02:42:32 Let me try that again. I need to know. What are you guys looking forward to? I'm looking forward to the rest of Yakuza 5 and getting back into Xenoblade. And I never actually finished Fallout. I ignored the play thank you for like 80 hours and never touched the main quest.
Starting point is 02:42:44 OK, no, wait. It'll only take you five seconds. Actually, I changed my mind. Liam, the floor is yours. I want to see where you go with this. I need to know how Tony Hawk Pro Skater 5 for PS3 and 360 is. I missed the boat on Shadow of Mordor,
Starting point is 02:42:59 so I need to know this. So to be fair, they just released a huge patch that fixes the X. Well, not fixes. There's almost no fixing. But improves it. So I wonder if that's the standard 360 PS3 version. After Little Wainsperm, I don't think we need to revisit.
Starting point is 02:43:16 Quick question. Did our pal Mike pull through on those items? I'm pretty sure he did. Those are all pulled through? I told you that. Yes, I didn't see the confirmation. Big thanks to Mike for that. So then I'm looking forward to Star Wars,
Starting point is 02:43:29 The Force Awakens then also. And theaters August 8th. August 8th. I'm looking forward to reading this Onion article called This Will Be The End of Trump's Campaign says Increasingly Nervous Man For The Seventh Time This Year. I saw that yesterday. It's so right.
Starting point is 02:43:48 It's the best. Like on point, point. America. Are you guys ready? Are you guys? Resolved. Are you guys ready to be annexed when Trump wins? Oh, fuck.
Starting point is 02:43:58 Are you ready to say that? We're all going to be American soon. I'm ready and willing to accept all the people that come running over, you know. It'll happen. Our president's a super cool dashing man. Did you just say our president? Yes. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:44:13 Go to America. He's not wrong. He's not wrong. How else are we going to communicate with them? They don't know what a prime minister is. Come on then. Do we have to change all our top names? I know what a prime minister is.
Starting point is 02:44:21 Do we have to be cooler? I went to college. That's the saddest thing. That's the saddest thing. Oh my god. I'll never forget the cabbie in Washington. They was like, y'all got a king and queen up there, don't you? Technically, yes.
Starting point is 02:44:39 Just the queen. Technically, it's England, right? Commonwealth. Yeah. Yeah, we broke off from them. Yeah, because you're a bunch of petulant tax-hating babies. And if we put it down below. I remember I told Max in Canada, fire hydrants were outlawed in 1986 because of the fires.
Starting point is 02:44:57 Yeah, absolutely. And he was like, oh shit. You could really say anything. Any of the best things about knowing Americans closely is that you get like a full year of that. You get a lot of it. You get a full year of they don't know shit. Igloos are real. We live in them.
Starting point is 02:45:16 The king and queen come to your house and steal your guns. Yeah. The dogs can't look up. Dogs can't look up. That's true. That's true. Although, is that because of gravity? Yeah.
Starting point is 02:45:27 They're too stupid. They don't know how to look up. They don't know. Although, I forgot where I saw like someone got off a plane and before they even hit the tarmac, like someone went, oh, sorry. Yeah, somebody sent us a message on Twitter about that. And so it's like, yeah. And he was like, oh boy.
Starting point is 02:45:41 Or he was like, yee hawk, he's from Texas. As for me, I'm just going to keep plugging away at Earth Defense Force. 4.1 Shadow of New Despair and try to like see how can I do it? We can actually beat it. We are in the sweet spot of the holiday season where all the good games came out, but they all came out like in some cases on the same day. And they're all giant and will last us till like February. So like the, hey, what are you looking forward to is going to have a lot of the same games on it
Starting point is 02:46:14 for like two months. And I'll try to also finish up Battle of Tendency. Xenoplade is huge. Yeah. Yeah, pretty big. Brennan, what's going on with you, man? What am I looking forward to? Well, I'm going to continue training in the gym, fighting people.
Starting point is 02:46:35 I'm not going to see Star Wars this week. I'm actually going to be going back home to Boston soon for the holidays. So I'm going to wait to see it with my friends. So I'm excited about that. And I should be, I need to double check. But I have a tabletop campaign that I'm running with a couple of my buddies. And we should be starting that up again soon. Scion is a mess.
Starting point is 02:46:59 It's a big mess. How many wrestlers play tabletop games? Probably more than we think. Like a handful from what I've heard. Like I'm in contact on Twitter with a couple guys and some people seem into it. And there was a girl that was here actually at Booker T School, who is there in NXT now, who is. So I can't wait.
Starting point is 02:47:20 I think I want to go to NXT just so I can play some sick tabletop games. People would pay money for those recordings, right? I really, well, the thing is, this is my first time DMing. Oh, you're doing cool DMing? So it's a real, it's a mess. Because the game is a mess. And then I'm, you know, it's my first time. So it's kind of scary.
Starting point is 02:47:40 Hey, if anybody gives you a lip, just have a drag and kill them. That's what I, well, no, actually, I just had like a little girl explosive. I feel like Mick Foley would be an amazing DM. You guys ever want to get into that kind of stuff like tabletop stuff? If you want to do it, I am really into making sheets. I don't know why that's my passion. It's just nerd shit. You just look at a book and write stuff.
Starting point is 02:48:04 A terrible sequence of events before me where I found out that a good friend of mine, one of his good friends in high school was one of those crazy DMs. One of those dudes that has the entire world map built out. And the fucking dock, the whole thing. And he's like, why didn't you come play, I forget, Sidewinder or whatever with us on such a something. Yeah. And like the week of, like that dude's computer gone, just melted.
Starting point is 02:48:33 Like apparently like a full year's worth of setup gone. And that dude's soul left his body. And that shit just, that was like two years ago. That shit's just gone now. Yeah. Like fuck. That sounds like my muke in life. Oh yeah, just.
Starting point is 02:48:49 Yeah, it's actually, I started doing it when I came to Houston the first time. Like I actually, some people hit me up on Twitter and they were like, hey, we heard you LARP, you should come do this. I was like, sure. So I took, went out on a limb and almost got murdered by going out into the middle of nowhere. Nice, nice. And I started doing it and I've been doing it. I try and do it as much as I can.
Starting point is 02:49:12 It's awesome. It's DMing is hard. I've tried it once. And I DMing is hard. I did it once in high school. Especially because, especially because my players are just actively trying to. Exactly, exactly. That's the thing.
Starting point is 02:49:24 It's, you know, in games you have to, you have to judge like what if people look in the wrong direction. Yeah. But in DMing, it's like your characters can do anything. And they could just avoid, yeah, they could just avoid the situation entirely. And the guy that was usually our DM wanted to be a shit. Yeah. So he was going as far out of the way as possible.
Starting point is 02:49:42 You either have to be a totalitarian, creative and or prepared. And there is no morality system in Scion. So I can't even say no, you can't do that for anything. They could do whatever they want. And it took them like halfway through, I don't know if you're familiar with the game, but Scion's all about like you're the child of gods. You start off as a hero, you're a demigod, and then you're a god. So those are like your three campaigns.
Starting point is 02:50:08 And it took them halfway through the first campaign before they actually had like a satisfying ending to a session. Like everything else, everybody, like they killed everybody. Everybody died. I don't like how this bartender's talking to me. Kill him. Put his head off. That's exactly what it is.
Starting point is 02:50:22 Bro, you just killed me. I know what glass of man. How could you know? Brennan, I feel for you. I hope you don't run into the asshole player with a lucky role. Because I remember playing with my brother and his friends in high school, and one guy just wanted to ruin the session and would invariably, like he rolled like three or four twenties,
Starting point is 02:50:46 which means critical success, no matter what it is. No matter what. So whatever he wanted to happen, happened. No, you look so cool with those sunglasses. I've thought about, I was just thinking that. I've thought about like it might be interesting to one day have like a special episode of like us just playing. Dude, absolutely, you know.
Starting point is 02:51:05 Absolutely, I would love to. Well, if you do that, if you do that, let me back in. Okay, yeah, totally. Because I love that stuff. Via Skype. Yeah, no. Via Skype. Well, no, that's why I only do it via Skype now.
Starting point is 02:51:15 Yeah, you can completely do it. There's websites and all kinds of stuff. Resources have improved. There you go. I want to be the tallest fantasy race available. Oh, I'm always a little girl. Yeah, see, see how he understands. He gets it.
Starting point is 02:51:30 Whatever the opposite is. I would give you what you are. Why would you? Yeah, I am already, I am already a superhero in real life. I'm going to be a little girl. I'm already a little girl in real life. I want to be a hedgehog. Are you a British hedgehog?
Starting point is 02:51:45 You can't stop me. Yeah, you got to go fast. We got to go fast and end this podcast. Yeah. We're in that weird moment. Right now we're going slow and we're answers. We're in that weird death moment, death spiral for the podcast that we always end up in.
Starting point is 02:51:58 All right, Brett, take us out here. This is the part where the music starts playing. What do I do? Stall for time while the music goes up. Yeah. Let me start shooting on my frigging opponent on January 30th at the grand opening of the world's gym arena. I don't know who he is, but whoever he is,
Starting point is 02:52:16 he's going to bend at the knee at the hands of the show guys. That's good stuff. That's beautiful. That's good. Believe in the globe.

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