Castle Super Beast - SBFC 241: Heroin Tag Frenzy

Episode Date: April 10, 2018

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Starting point is 00:01:26 Live but not hot. It means the button was hit, but the other button was not hit. But hot but not live is the inverse of that. Why even go that extra step? Why not just say not live? Can you be hot without being alive? Because there's two steps to it. Yeah, but what's the one step?
Starting point is 00:01:41 Why should we be aware of the first step? The first step is that it's recording it. The second step is that the world can see it. The world can see what's not being recorded sometimes. The first step is stream is on and it's being broadcast, but not us. But there is a fee, right? And then, so that's to be like, hey, stop talking about all your dank shit, because... We're talking about fucking Code Lyoko and Alberto D'Orio.
Starting point is 00:02:08 Those two franchises is finally coming together. Both dead. And on this episode of Code Lyoko, Alberto D'Orio, but he didn't show up. Doesn't show up to the episode. It's just an empty cell. It's just an empty background. Okay, so, well, what's not right. Is this where he tells us that the podcast is not on?
Starting point is 00:02:30 No, it's on and it's going. You were frozen for a second there, Pat, but it's okay. I keep pointing this down and you sludge more into your chair a little bit. You're at the top of your head anyway. It's framing. It's funny. Is it the top of my head? Don't worry about that.
Starting point is 00:02:48 Yeah, but it keeps getting lower and lower and lower. You're slinking slowly under the desk. I don't know why. I'm getting nowhere. No, man. That's a stream problem. You set it up so that you're sitting all perfect, but then you reorient your ass so that you're sitting up straight like your parents told you to, and then you check the
Starting point is 00:03:01 stream and your fucking head's cut off at the nose. You're like, shit. Yeah. You go wide angle. Either that or your perfectly like contained flab suddenly just flops out in the worst possible way because the angle of perfection has been changed. Similar but different. I remember like, what was it?
Starting point is 00:03:21 Like a few weeks ago, you told this story again to Leanna about, yeah, I wore that vest and that green shirt on the thumbnail video of me and Liam at E3 and I was ginormous because of like a billowing shirt. You know what? We can. Yeah, that's fine. I'm not sure if you ever talked about on video. I don't think I ever have.
Starting point is 00:03:45 I don't think I've even ever heard this. It's the William and Liam go to E3 parody video when you guys went to E3 for real and we did it. We did the local virtual version and like the thumbnail for it was just a screenshot, but it was like I used to wear a vest over my t-shirts back in the day. Yeah, you really don't do that anymore. Yeah, I kind of stopped, but like because you saw that thumbnail. Partially, no, but it was actually because I'm in a back, like I used to sometimes like
Starting point is 00:04:10 wear my tie and like dress trying to do the thing because I like that. I like doing that. I enjoy doing that. Yes, my button ups and my ties. But anyway, so the vest was kind of like that. And but when a vest is open, you can't see where the edges of your body stopped and the limits of the vest begin, so it just takes your wideness and expands it and it creates this illusion of you being a tire.
Starting point is 00:04:35 Yeah, it's not like you're overweight. It's like you were there's safe off marshmallow in the space in between your your like your underarm and your and your body disappears into that and inflated in like a mortal combat and it becomes like mentally replaced with pounds of fluff. Exactly. So it's just like, oh, no, it's this. It's the opposite of the black t-shirt effect. The opposite.
Starting point is 00:05:00 It's bad and like and I do remember the heavy amount of heavy amount of people going like, dude, what the fuck happened to woolly in like a day in like a day. Yeah, like I was like, no, it was the best it was the best that it was the best with the metal arm. It's woolly. Actually three children standing in an oversized collume, dude, cameras and illusions and the trickery within. It's crazy.
Starting point is 00:05:28 I love that photo. That should be the podcast thumbnail. Yeah, I still I still get accused of having no ass from the Jojo video, the Jojo underwear. Yeah, that's because I had because I had to put the hoodie to explain, I saw it. I had to put the hoodie inside so you could see the art so you can put that was covering where the actual ass form was placed. You're either like, so there's a big or you have no booby creates a conspiracy of there being zero.
Starting point is 00:05:59 What's wrong with him? There's a hoodie covering the actual ass so the art can be an unfortunately shaped man. It's this is a mess. It's horrible. The shape of you is a mess. It's bad hot mess. So that's tire with no but that. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:06:16 So that's can't get behind this tire. That's why that's why we got to fix it. Yeah, that's why you got to wear super tight clothes all the time. You're like, it doesn't help that my boxing name is like, we'll eat the tire. Madden and some shit. The Michelin man mad. No ass. You can't punch him.
Starting point is 00:06:37 Oh, fuck. He doesn't have any cushion on the bottom so he never gets knocked down as it would hurt his butt. Yeah. Well, you don't need that when you got your fucking Megalo box rig all jacked in. Yeah, you don't need you don't need power when the robot can do it for you. We'll get into that in a second in just one second. Have you? Did you?
Starting point is 00:06:59 Yeah. OK, catch that Megalo box. It's the the basically it's this anime that just came out and turns out it's the it's a like like not spiritual successor, but like kind of related in whatever you want to call it linked to Ashdeno Joe, the like the old ass boxing anime. Yeah, it's weird because like this go tech media was like re-releasing all all that on Blu-ray. I'm like, why now?
Starting point is 00:07:26 And I'm like, okay. And so Megalo box is like kind of like spiritual successor in that way or the very least. I'm not whatever. Like it's like a legend of success. Yeah, it's like it's like Karras was the celebration of the 30th anniversary. Okay, do we know how long this thing is supposed to be 13 episodes 13? That's a good this boy. This is you.
Starting point is 00:07:47 Oh, I so did you watch it before or after someone told you that there was a scene where they were punching to the music? No, I didn't I didn't catch that at all. All I all like there was the original trailer. I saw it when Crunchyroll put it out and then there were. Oh, good job everyone on fucking the feed up to 480p. Not our feet. Oh, the the anime.
Starting point is 00:08:10 Yeah, the broadcaster sent over like the 480p version. Oh, geez, I didn't catch that. And that's why it looks like shit. You really don't need more pee than that. Yeah, you need your 720s. There was a point 60. No, absolutely not. Get out of here.
Starting point is 00:08:23 There was a point where I realized that like besides the initial retweet of the trailer when it first came out, I hadn't really said much about it. And so at a certain point, I just control F to megalobox in my like Twitter feed of just have you really have you see not and there was 93. Yeah, 93 tweets on a single page of people going, no, but really I was like, I should probably talk about these things to let people know that I've. Yeah, because yeah, but even if you do, it's like you're doing it to that moment in time and people that are watching right then your feeds.
Starting point is 00:08:56 Yeah. And 12 hours later, that's gone. Yeah. So, um, I was told triple H was dressed like me last night many, many times. Oh, that's yeah. Okay. Came up on my right and the end of the NXT signs and such. Um, no, the megalobox was fucking like the first of all, I want to give a
Starting point is 00:09:16 shout out to the fact that, like, for some reason, maybe it's just the choices of what I'm watching, but the spike spiegel character design of main like main character school is coming back a little bit in the sense that the Afro protagonist, you know, the shaggy hair protagonist. I like that so much more. You're going to like you because the seven then because here's the yeah. Well, here's the thing. Seven.
Starting point is 00:09:37 No, I feel like yeah. Seven. Have you not seen the new protagonist? Oh, I forgot about that. Have you not seen the new protagonist of no, no, we definitely talked about him. Isn't it the girl that he raised? No, we talked about it.
Starting point is 00:09:50 It's just that it's been so long since it is a black Japanese guy with giant. He's got a giant Afro red and he's wearing a purple suit with a gray shirt. Okay. He is the 100% like inverse of Kiryu in every way. Okay. He's loud and cocky wears Kiryu's quiet and like he is the complete opposite.
Starting point is 00:10:10 Interesting. Um, the the fact that they're for so long, right? The typical protagonist has been like your Suki Hime main character vibe, right? Your visual novel main character, which is student hair, right? Yeah. That's your every man. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:10:29 And Christ, even fucking Deku's got it. Well, no, Deku doesn't have it. He's got that. No, but I mean, he's shaggy. Yes. That's what I was. That's what I was going. That's what I mean.
Starting point is 00:10:39 That's where I was going because exactly like when you get your Kirito type looking motherfucker, I'm like, yeah, we've done this. I know what else you got, right? So like we and obviously we've we've seen it with like Spike, but it's been not something I see as much. So I like when I see like Midoriya has it. I like when double man crybaby has it. It's a preferred thing.
Starting point is 00:10:58 Is this easier to draw or harder to draw? No, it's just a design choice. Okay. It's just gotta be harder to draw though. I I don't. I think it's the same. I think it's just a design. Draw a pie.
Starting point is 00:11:09 Pisces, you know, I think you know, but either way, I really like the big shaggy hair main character. Well, it works really well with the main character who rides a motorcycle. Yeah, certainly does. Absolutely. Someone who's got the wind in their face. How do you do it? That's a strong first episode.
Starting point is 00:11:25 Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. The thing about though, I mean, the world sets itself up. It's a nice cool feature. Whatever the boxing is got fucking mechanical parts to it. It really screams like this world was built for the story told in this sport only and the world the world revolves around this sport is a hundred percent in effect here, right?
Starting point is 00:11:45 That's the classic sort of enemy take on sports enemy take on things. The reveal of your other type of like technology in that you see like the the gears on one side of like just it's like an exoskeleton and then like the budget version of that, right? Oh, OK, like it's like your your your love versus your your orbital frame. Yeah, basically, you're you're protected. A bad match is essentially wearing the external pieces of a forklift attached to his arms and then you get to see the money.
Starting point is 00:12:19 What's the high end version of this? Oh, it's metallic plating like the like just a terminator or a predator would have it's fucking sick. Obviously, it's it's about boxing and it's rad and the everything about it is done really cool. It's really funny because the punch like they're using the robot arms aspect to actually do the airplane noise shit. Yes, yes.
Starting point is 00:12:44 He pretends to have. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And the spinning shoulder gear and it lets you know. Oh, man, you know what's really smart about have boxing between two guys of metal arms sparks literally fly when they block on the side of the metal. That sounds like tell Roboxer now. Now, here's the thing, though, and this is just this is just me. And I can't get away from this.
Starting point is 00:13:04 OK, this might I might have the same thing. Let's see one. I can't imagine any reason to add machine reinforced like normal human punches are dangerous enough as it is. Yeah, especially at a professional level. If you know how to throw adding machine energy to that is just meant to kill the person. So that was exactly what I was going to say.
Starting point is 00:13:25 There's no practical reason except to murder the person in the right about for me, it's not about practicality. But OK, so episode one, there's three or four boxing matches in it. Yes. And one of them, they say, OK, it's three. No, no, no, it's actually two, but OK, it's three minute rounds. Others almost a third. There's three minute rounds and no limit to the rounds.
Starting point is 00:13:47 And it's like, you don't even see that in fucking regular boxing, let alone boxing that has hits that are fucking what, ten times as strong as wait, wait, are their faces or bodies reinforced in any. No, it's settled that is a normal boxer. They are getting hit so hard. It's like, eventually you move on to just straight up robots like real steel or whatever it is. But no, take what it's just a normal boxer with one of those MIT exoskeleton
Starting point is 00:14:18 things stupid. I'm like, no, it's cool. It's robots punching each other. You're your normal meaty face is getting punched. Someone gets punched in the face. Exactly. They pretty much died. And so I'm thinking back, I think there are only like three or four landed
Starting point is 00:14:32 punches in the entire first episode, because the protagonist takes like one to the gut and one to the face and pretty much almost dies. Like it's a critic. It's a death sport. Man, Rocky Balboa do so bad in this league. Yeah, your entire gimmick is I could take a punch, except not that one. The the the nature of everyone televising and getting around this whole thing where it's just a fucking death league to me is mad.
Starting point is 00:15:00 They even they even have the name Megalo. Megalo boxing. Megalo boxing. Megalovania or whatever. Yeah, that's what I'm thinking. Oh, wait, no, it does have. Yeah, but like there's there's a lady on an interview and it's like people say that Megalo boxing is a vicious blood sport.
Starting point is 00:15:17 What do you say? No, no, no, it's noble. And then it's like they smash cut to like a fucking machine pissed in making somebody puke blood all over the floor. It's like they're aware that parents are complaining about the Mortal Kombat movies. So they threw in the line. It's not about death, but life.
Starting point is 00:15:34 It's about death on literally about death. So that like I that part where they're like, this is just adding a more lethal thing to an already dangerous thing is like I'm like, OK, but it's but it adds cool points and style points. So that's why it's there. It's so that when the guy winds up for his punch, you don't have to spend like 35 hours animating every fiber of Epo's right arm muscle. Yeah, you can just show the piston.
Starting point is 00:16:02 Yeah, you show steam. You show the pile bunker locking in before the fist comes out. Right. I can. All right. What I cannot what I cannot get past and it's like it fucking. It's it's a minor thing. OK.
Starting point is 00:16:17 But it's major in my head when I go to practice. When I go to the gym and put in box. So this is inside. All right. Right. No, it's not even that inside. I have to take off as many piercings as I can because the slightest little thing like even having the one on my lip there.
Starting point is 00:16:34 Right. My coach would imagine when we're doing pad work. Right. My coach would like swing for it basically going like you got to get that shit out man. Right. Anything on your face that can do any that can like do is a liability. Right.
Starting point is 00:16:44 Anything hard. Right. Yeah, absolutely. Putting on a fucking earpiece while you're getting punched with extra hard fists is madness. No, but you don't understand if you get hooked and it hits the ear right where the piece is you're beyond dead. Well, like your skull is going to get fractured with that thing.
Starting point is 00:17:05 He's so good. He'd never let anyone do that. Not to mention having your coach talk to you in your ear. Why would you not aim to like knock that out right away? Well, right. They're not allowed because it's underground illegal box. Is it the the boxing matches that take place in the first episode are all illegal.
Starting point is 00:17:21 Is it like no biting you? I guess it's so far. It's just boxing with extra hard machine punches and an earpiece. Yeah. The earpiece is so not like why it's a dramatic. Why would you add that detail for the drama of hearing the coach in the ring? You have that knowledge base now.
Starting point is 00:17:41 Imagine with tennis people that watching Prince of Tennis. I don't do a title. The Nails, the dinosaurs. No, it's because those moments were fucking Epo and like coach would be having the thing of I have to feel his sentiments before they happen. I had to feel any grabs. He grabs the towel and he's like, I don't know if I should throw it, but he's going to kill himself.
Starting point is 00:18:00 Like those moments. Listen, Epo is in Megalo boxing are not the same. You can't. Epo is a love letter to real boxing. Megalo boxing is what if what if I put on a pile bunker and punched a guy really hard anime and also I've got a fucking earpiece going like while I'm getting. Oh, my God, that's it.
Starting point is 00:18:20 It's really cool to have the actual advice in your ear because it's like no one hears the advice of your fucking seconds or your coach and it's screaming the crowd going not to get here and it makes the cosplay better. Make no mistake. Oh, yeah, that's it's going to cool accessories. It's going to be gone next week for sure. No, I bet you that's the thing. I bet you the staple designs are going to be those two pieces, you know.
Starting point is 00:18:46 But anyway, beyond that, it's fucking right. Animation quality is a. Yeah, I love the I love. So it reminds me of Epo and Red Line together, but instead of Red Lines or Mad Houses, super, super thick black lines, everything looks penciled and it looks really unique. Yeah. I mean, it I wouldn't like it.
Starting point is 00:19:09 It looks like anime. It looks like, you know, it looks like it looks old. That's good. But but but it's got them what it's got is money because it's 13 episodes so they don't have to spread it. Yeah, so it's, you know, the animation looks nice. Not good pilot. Good stuff.
Starting point is 00:19:26 I just liked it. I expect that level of incredulous and credulity to increase to the maximum by the halfway point when we see all these gimmick boxers coming in the ring. Yeah. Everyone with their dumb arms and their tack and the you know what I mean? Like at what point the springman just steps in, you know, or like is the is the the fucking like like you have the fans like that the revs that like, you know, are like spinning at the back.
Starting point is 00:19:51 Can you have an actual like giant like jetpack arm that, you know, lift and elevates you or rockets at the bottom of the only fights one armed because then the power of his right punch is twice as strong. Oh, my God. It seems like every character is like one guy from Kenshin or a ninja scroll one guy that has advanced bullshit of the age that he should not have us. Like there's a fucking robot in ninja scroll or at least the TV the anime.
Starting point is 00:20:22 Now you're not the movie, but they still had stupid shit that they should possibly have. It always feels like a guy that's like way stronger every care I gave that ninja scroll out of me like three episodes. I gave it like six or so. I rented it once like the VHS. The intro theme is nice. This is OK.
Starting point is 00:20:36 Yeah, it's not the same characters on the same story. It's Jubey. Yeah, but it's a new guy. That's not the same Jubey. I thought I thought it was a no, it's no, it's no, it's Jubey. But there's a million Jubey's type thing. I thought it was a Jubey. Yeah, I didn't catch that.
Starting point is 00:20:50 No, sorry. I'm thinking of ninja resurrection. Yeah, that's garbage. That has nothing to do with it. Fool me as a kid. Because it has the font. So I thought it was a catapult. We talked about this already like three times and you went back to being
Starting point is 00:21:05 fooled. Ah, God, my full meter went on cooldown and now I can get refold. What's that fucking? What was the game that had the Devil May Cry font? Devil Kings. Devil Kings. Yeah. You're like, and then they made that Devil King game after I read to do
Starting point is 00:21:24 is it wasn't like Devil May Cry at all. Ninja resurrection. Yeah. Anyway, no, no, no. I was talking about the actual ninja school anime that came out afterwards. I watched that too. And that was it was okay. But they they're a straight up Mecca.
Starting point is 00:21:37 And I'm excited to see the guy who's got like his fists are like pointed. And if he punches like this, it's a knife or, you know, fucking whatever, or the guy that has no arms and has complete machine arms replacing them. Jack style. That would be not fair. I think. Well, that's the problem is what's fair because the only thing governing like the life bar of these characters, how much money you got to throw
Starting point is 00:22:00 is your human jaw, right? Like there's no reinforced thing to impact like to soften the blow. Metal jaws are awesome. It'd suck if this entire thing goes out with no one with like cool metal face or like a chess play. Well, it's like what happens if you take us not suck, take a sport, turn the offense level to 11 12, but the defense stays the same. You're still a human being.
Starting point is 00:22:23 That's an unbalanced sport. Oh, man. Anyway, but beyond that, I will be watching its future with great interest. I'll be watching your career with great interest. Yes, that's that's where Michael Vox is at. I guess that we both watch that. Yeah, we both watch that. Yeah, very good.
Starting point is 00:22:43 All right, I'll keep it going. I also spent the rest of that time continuing through Legend of Galactic Heroes. It's hard. Where are you? Because it's like you're like 80 episode halfway point. So I'm in the third like act of the season of the series. And I realized at some point because someone was kind enough to message me
Starting point is 00:23:10 and say that there's a movie that takes place before the story starts. So like a prequel movie. So I went back and watched that air after the series aired before. Oh, OK. So it's actually so it's actually watching it in kind of canonical order is actually like you get a full prequel that was not a prequel. It's actually the beginning. Ah, I don't want to overhype.
Starting point is 00:23:32 Don't want to set expectations through the roof. Don't want to do any of that, right? Because this is just straight space opera, as I've mentioned in the last two weeks. Yeah, it has no flaws. OK, you're saying like some characters are a bit annoying in the sense that, oh, that character should be annoying or make a weird decision. But you were like, but that's it. The like like the only thing I'm always worried about is what's the young
Starting point is 00:23:59 idiot going to do. OK, that's what and the young idiot is God like he's not an idiot at all. He's amazing and everything's amazing. And the show is fucking like the moment you raise your finger to go. There's nothing there. It's it's just good, good, good. There's nothing else I can say about it. You know, you're and like, like, even if you want to go like, I don't know,
Starting point is 00:24:25 maybe you hate the the the the fucking J-pop that you get from like some gun, like Gundam Cedar or whatever, even if you like the music or it's like, no, because it's all classical music. Yes, because it's all it's super old. Um, yeah, I'm like, yeah, I'm just like whatever. Again, like the the there's these moments of because you're doing full space opera and the setting is so interesting because you're so far flung into the future that you're just like, like it's almost all like to the
Starting point is 00:24:55 characters. It's always been space, you know. And it doesn't have to do it, but it at moments decides to go. How did we get from Earth to space opera? And it goes, let's show you like literally characters in universe sitting down to watch a Discovery Channel like bio like history. You think that's how the earth blew up and like, it's so interesting just getting all the way through from what the world we know to that to the future
Starting point is 00:25:29 world in a way that is like practical and believable and like accounts for political bullshit and other. Um, God, I don't know, man. It's just again, there's like nothing to point out about this show, except for fucking watch it. Cause that's that I haven't heard you lay on that. There's always something, you know, like nothing. You're like, what was that?
Starting point is 00:25:52 God, that children Gundam full metal. Children. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Ironblooded, ironblooded, full metal children and ironblooded orphans. And you're like, there's always something. So there's always something, including that guy's goofy hair cut, right? You know, but here there's very little. There's nothing.
Starting point is 00:26:09 And it's just like, oh, it's very old school. Characters are all very old school. And like, I guess it's like that's so old that like tropes that you hate weren't invented yet. Maybe. Well, the only thing that might be a problem is like, if you really can't, like if you'd find the political discussion and like, like planning uninteresting, the, the, you mean the game?
Starting point is 00:26:38 I guess like the like the game of politics. Yeah. Yeah, like the political maneuvering and yeah. If you find that uninteresting, then like it might bore you. And if you find like, because then the way that fights take place is it's all you're following the like space battles at a like commander level. So it's tactical. It's not frenetic.
Starting point is 00:27:03 It's like paste. And I'm, I'm out thinking your maneuvers and we're doing and we're strategizing in a chessboard game kind of way, almost in the way like what back before trench warfare when it was like two lines approach each other and then just fucking right. But then you're more strategy to it and you're doing that with your, with your, with your lines of ships, but then they're not afraid to show you a dude pulling his guts back into himself and be like, or like, oh,
Starting point is 00:27:29 there goes brain. This is a political maneuver. Yeah. You know, back in there. And so they, they really like, they try, they try to make sure that like while you're watching these commanders try to outthink each other and play this game, there's fucking lives on the line, you know, and like, what's the reasons? Why?
Starting point is 00:27:46 What's the point? Whereas something like most Japanese space operas focus on burlbots, which is basically shot like top gun. It's dog fighting with your aces and your Mavericks and whatnot. This is fucking like World War Two, like almost radio drama level of like, like naval battle. A hundred percent. There you go.
Starting point is 00:28:14 All right. The radical spaceship designs and dog fighting designs and ships and like the, the like mechanical porn is like totally just treated as, as if you, you've seen planes, planes forever. You know what ships look like. You know what submarines are. I have a recollection. Right.
Starting point is 00:28:33 Why would we spend all this time filming it like it was like submarine porn? If you're, if you're familiar, you're just watching a history thing about how this fight went down, right? That's a marine. So, but that's what I'm saying is they don't, they don't overdo it. They really just, they spend the time to show you these are how these ships function and then you're watching the results. And from the commander's chair, all this shit is tiny little dots on a screen.
Starting point is 00:28:57 Exactly. And nothing overstays its welcome. And characters are like having intelligent conversations and no one's getting so philosophical that they're full of their own ass and shit. Like, oh man, it gets when it gets to that level, there's almost always someone who goes, okay, but the reality of the situation is you're talking about some bullshit philosophy and this and this people. There's call outs.
Starting point is 00:29:22 There's every scene where someone philosophizes too hard. Has a call out immediately afterwards going asshole. That's not real life, right? And it's, and like, it's very satisfying to see that happen to everybody. It doesn't sound old school. That sounds like some, that sounds like innovative almost. It's, it's a very interesting and then you have your, uh, you, you know, it's not like, obviously you have your, your Gundam, like, you know, Earth
Starting point is 00:29:47 Alliance and, and Xeon as, you know, there's your Space Nazis and your, your hero, uh, um, allies. But here you're kind of like discussing the nuance of like, okay, but not really space like, yes, Space Nazis, right? In fact, directly cause they're German, but like, what, but like, but like, people at home can't see, but my eyes are narrowed and I'm nodding. Mm hmm. Right.
Starting point is 00:30:12 But like the endless, but like the cycle between, um, a, a extremely corrupt democracy versus a benevolent dictatorship, okay, which is actually better for the people, right? And this sort of like this romance of the space kingdoms goes on and it's very, it's a very interesting thing that like, uh, uh, plays out over the course of fucking a hundred episodes. I, I love this thing infinitely. And I think I'm absolutely going to drop the coin when that box
Starting point is 00:30:47 comes out. Oh yeah. I think so. Yeah. Like a thousand dollar box set. Well, as someone talking to Chris ricks about it, she loves this anime too. And she's like, it costs a thousand dollars. Legend of the galactic box set.
Starting point is 00:31:00 Yeah. I, someone who was like, if this was, or like what came out in Japan, I don't know. Yeah. As someone who missed out on this until this date, like I will fully support this with like, I like, I want to support this thing because of it. You don't even know how many people involved in the creation of this anime are still I know, I know, but that's what the money is.
Starting point is 00:31:23 The problem with that thought and that sentiment is that, um, there's also the bullshit that comes with anime pricing and in Japan. Oh hell yeah. And not wanting to support that. Right. So like that shit sucks and that inflation is garbage and that's something that shouldn't be like, I have an idea, but I don't, I don't know. I'm, I'm, it's like, like I said, I'm like, I need to think about it,
Starting point is 00:31:43 at least they're figuring out you got it from a car boot sale. Yeah. Well, there's that. Yeah. Right. There's that support your local car boots. Um, but one way or another, uh, the, the, the content on those discs is something stellar.
Starting point is 00:31:55 For some reason, I thought you were going to say for one way or another, I will fund another season. Well, it's someone that apparently there's new shit happening. And I don't really remaking the movie that I think you're talking about. There's, there's, there's new shit happening. And I don't know what it is. And I thought kickstarted like originally when you started to say legendary collector heroes, I thought the process was you saw that new
Starting point is 00:32:18 shit and then went, huh, what is that? No, what is this old shit? It is the most ridiculous coincidence that this thing that my friend like recommended to me years ago, but I was like, fuck it. I'm going to get on this thing. Yeah. Right. And I just decided now, and it happens to also be in the news.
Starting point is 00:32:34 You know, it's totally coincidence. Um, lucky you. Yeah. Cause I, I'm, I'm looking forward to appreciating whatever this new shit is, what it does happen. And like, I don't even want to look into what the thing is less like a picture of a character spoils something for me. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:32:52 As we all, as we all know when this character died heroically in the final episode of fucking whatever, it's like, oh man. There's, there's, there's like, there's definitely, um, there's something to be said for, uh, uh, like, God, how do I describe this at one point? Like the intros, the intro changes. You go through the seasons, right? And like at one point, the new intro kicks in and it's before anything
Starting point is 00:33:17 happens, but a character design changes drastically in the intro, in the intro and you go, oh shit before it even occurs in the show. I have a question. Yeah. This might be a really stupid question, but it's because of the way that you've talked about it. Does this show have a protagonist? It seems like it's a bunch of characters.
Starting point is 00:33:37 It's, it's really because you have not set a single character's name. Yeah. The entire time you've talked about it doesn't even matter. There, it does have a protagonist and then it has another protagonist on the opposite side. Okay. All right.
Starting point is 00:33:49 Good. That's what I thought, but he's really an antagonist and there's really a clear protagonist. Yes. There's a clear protagonist and a clear antagonist, but like it does a great job of really showing you both perspectives, you know, and this and the whole show can really be boiled down to mutual admiration from, from like mortal enemies.
Starting point is 00:34:11 Oh, it's like that one fucking show fucking char and amour are looking at each other and just kind of jerking it in their Gundams and be like, yeah, that guy's a good pilot. Yeah, it's all that. Okay. It's nothing but that it's a hundred percent that and it's so good and staring off into space and like and having the other person's floating head in this space, like looking down
Starting point is 00:34:30 at you as you're going like, oh, man, oh, he's, oh, that was a good move to kill the thousand people. Oh, I sure I'd love to meet that guy. Oh, man. What does he even look like? Oh, man. Yeah. It's no, it's it's good stuff.
Starting point is 00:34:48 Into the breach continues on and I'm like to absorb you. Yeah. You know, off time. Well, the reason why are you a legend of a galactic status in that game? I've unlocked. I've only I think only have like two teams left to unlock. Holy shit.
Starting point is 00:35:02 Um, you're going hard. The it's it's easy because like I said, it's still digestible and like Darkest Dungeon has an appeal where it's the same feeling, but it takes longer to get progress into the breach. You can do runs very quickly. And so having gotten used to the speed of doing like, you know, four islands and final is really like making it so that I'm like, I've got an hour.
Starting point is 00:35:27 I don't know if I fucking I'm going to go do a run. I don't know if I talked about this, but there's a really fantastic guy who does a show called Game Maker's Toolkit does a lot of great videos. And one of them is about feedback loops and describes Darkest Dungeon as an example of a game that has both positive and negative feedback loops in which if you do well, you get stronger. If you do worse, you get way weaker and into the breach is built the same exact way with the difference being if you enter a negative
Starting point is 00:35:55 feedback loop, you go, OK, fuck it. And just restart instantly and immediately go back into it. Whereas Darkest Dungeon, when I was playing that, I felt I would get in a negative feedback loop and starting all the way over was like countercropping. Yeah, well, the problem with into the breach, though, is that like it's not a problem. It's a good thing.
Starting point is 00:36:15 But it's as you get stronger and that momentum pushes forward. One thing that really helps you is how strong your your main pilot is. Yeah. The guy who's who's in charge, who's been through multiple breaches before, right, who's got max level and all that. He's giving you tons of buffs and whatever he's piloting. That guy dies. Oh, no.
Starting point is 00:36:34 And you go, then it means you're kind of like you do. Start back from square one because your crutch was too heavy square. You were leaning too heavy on that crutch. You have to be more tactile. Think about your movement and place it better. And I like, yeah. And anytime you're doing it, what you think is the most efficient optimal move, I bet you you could like do it all stare at it for another
Starting point is 00:36:57 five minutes and then you've got a better move. You got a better solution. The problem with me is no matter how long I stare at it, I always see the better move one millisecond after I hit the button. Like the instant the enemy moves one square before their turn is done. Yeah. And yeah, I go, oh, which is why you position your dudes and then act. Don't act.
Starting point is 00:37:18 Don't move and act. You have to go position, position, position, stare at it, think about it, then go back and commit to the acts because then you can undo, undo, undo without actually locking in each one. And the reset turn button is for when you really fucked up. I'm glad that that button exists. Yes, it's appreciated because that's for undoing an action. But if you just play with your positioning, you can stare at those
Starting point is 00:37:43 chess pieces all day. That button is that goddamn eraser for really big mistakes. Oh, oh, I love that fucking stupid thing. It's also the achievement button where if you have to do something inefficient and stupid, I need to knock everything into the water regardless of the consequences. You do that. Get the achievement point so that you unlock future shit and then
Starting point is 00:38:04 unreset it and you've got the achievements though. Is there anything that's like that's like the waves crashing? And is there like another like environmental has tons? Okay. It wasn't sure. Oh, yeah. Every island has like at least like lava fields. Every island has at least two of them.
Starting point is 00:38:20 Literally lava fields. There's one where the islands it makes sense. There's one where the entire map starts to shrink and anything on the edges just dies. Dude, there's okay. So there's there's there's title waves. There's lightning storms, lava volcanoes. There's there's dust storms.
Starting point is 00:38:38 There's a dust storm. Do it's just like dust pops up ability and anything that's in it can't move or rather than I can't move, but like it has its actions denied. Oh, that sucks. Yeah, there's tons. There's tons of environmental hazards and I don't know if you got to the final island.
Starting point is 00:38:54 No, no. Okay, the final island the final island introduces new ones too. So it's it's like ones that you've never seen before. Yeah. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, there's airstrikes. Yeah, there's there's times, man. Good shit though.
Starting point is 00:39:09 Monster Hunter Worlds jumped back in. There's some sort of festival going on. There's a spring festival happening right now, which I have unfortunately ignored. That's a good tempered devil Joe is available for the entirety of the event. Yeah, I highly suggest. Wait, you can't handle Temple Joe.
Starting point is 00:39:21 There's no way. I fucking went in on on devil Joe on the special event right thing. I went in and I tried and I failed three times each time I got it down to drooling and exhausted. Yeah. So I think I can do it, but his I wouldn't have kept trying if I did his final his final like phase of anger is like final basically one when you get a monster down to a captorful or
Starting point is 00:39:49 like near death state. He doesn't like their last go is always the worst. Okay, they're like worse than Kieran. No, okay, but you could if you got him down to drooling and exhausted and going to fall asleep. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. You got him to limping and drooling. No.
Starting point is 00:40:07 Sounds gross. Okay, devil Joe gets hungry all the time. Yeah, he's always hungry. Okay, devil Joe is the great, the great mall, the great mall. Yeah. Okay, him drooling. Yeah, happens 10 times a fight. That's what he drools.
Starting point is 00:40:24 That's when you go and you put down the poison meat because he'll eat anything in the environment. So hungry. So you basically got him to nothing. Okay. Well, then never because I was like what don't worry. Willie, you may no problem in my head. I'm like, that's really, really impressive.
Starting point is 00:40:41 And I'm like, how were you even able to do that? Like, it's like, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Okay, that's just part of his, no, dude. That's his deal. Day, day one, I like, I didn't beat temper devil Joe. Okay. With my fucking end game bullshit and a party full of guys. All right.
Starting point is 00:40:59 He's easily the toughest thing in the entire game bar none. He is way stronger than any of the other end games. That makes a lot of sense now that and the reason why he's so much stronger is that he gives guaranteed the upgrade materials for the final, final, final weapon upgrades. Okay. Well, at the very least I learned the initial pattern. Yes.
Starting point is 00:41:17 So devil Joe is the opposite of basil geese where being underneath him is great and where basil, did you get to see the turf war? Not between them. Oh, it's so fucking good. I think actually there was a video that like was just a tweet where I saw them move. I saw the big ass like wrestling slam.
Starting point is 00:41:35 Joe has a disproportionate amount of turf force with everybody else on the roster with basil. He bites him and basil and he like slams basil and then basil explodes in his mouth and it's an it's a draw. Oh, Diablos tries to charge Joe and Joe bites his horn and does a fucking suplex backwards that I did. I did see I think of the suplex. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:41:59 And a fucking, I think it was. I think there's, there's, there's Jagras where it's just like becomes a projectile. You're, it's just Artorias throwing a fucking undead at you. Like he does crazy way more damage with Jagras in his mouth. That also works with Kuyaku and all the small types. He Nathan Copeland's the Jagras at you. The best, the best one I think is probably what's his name?
Starting point is 00:42:23 Odagran. Odagran where Odagran attacks him because of course he does and Joe just thrashes him like Odagran thrashes everybody else. Right, right, right. It's fucking great. Oh, so, you know, um, that that's going and everything's fine and dandy, but, but you know what fucking sucks?
Starting point is 00:42:40 What sucks? Blue tracks. Yep. They suck. You know why they suck? Because they have no rhyme or reason to where they're going to appear. They do.
Starting point is 00:42:49 Okay. Well, besides the area or the zone that they tell you that they're going to be in the difference, right? For, for, because I tweeted out about how I was, I was like, this is, this is annoying, right? And, and, and to, to head it off at the past. I've done quests instead as a means of all of building it up and I'm past it.
Starting point is 00:43:07 So it's fine. I've, I've solved the problem. This is for Narragagante. This is for Narragagante. What was it? It was just annoying that, um, I don't mind tracking things because there's a rhyme and a reason to them. They're in a place where it's like, well, the footprint is facing
Starting point is 00:43:21 a direction that's going to help you out. And then they're going to lead you and then you're going to find the next one in a path with a frequency. You're specifically talking about the special investigation track that you have to build up over the course of investigations randomly or whatever and, uh, finding them as the next means of getting to the next story point, be boss, whatever, right? And as someone who is playing it as an action game, yeah.
Starting point is 00:43:45 Right. Which I guess is like, you're, you're be lining it. I'm, I, because, um, you know, this thing's are like, well, just go around and dig around. And while you're digging around, you'll build up the thing and I'm like, but I don't want anything to do to dig around. I, I didn't, I liked what I had. I was kind of, you know, I thankfully, I saw a set that is
Starting point is 00:44:02 a new goal that I'm like, I don't mind grinding a bit for this set. Yeah. But until that appeared, I was like, I just want to do this thing. And this is holding me back because I have to run in circles around this map for fucking 45 minutes. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:44:17 Like, anyway, so I would say it's the worst part of the game so far to me. I would say that, uh, the special investigation tracking. Okay. So let me explain a little bit more. So you do that with an air gigante and you're going to come up against a situation in which you are not only going to have to do that for an air gigante.
Starting point is 00:44:32 You have to do it for Shala Dara. You need to do it for Valhazak and you do it. I hate that this is going to be a thing. And you have to do each of that in the other three zones, right? Valh is in Rottenvale. This is your job now. Well, Teostra is your hunter.
Starting point is 00:44:47 Teostra, that's a, actually, that's the point. Um, imagine if your boot foot footprint was here and I have to find out where you are and then the next one is fucking in the living room and then the next one is our Mount Royal. Well, it's even more annoying because when you track Koshala Dara in the forest and find all his tracks, he will then unlock permanently in Elder Recess because that's where they all live in the Elder Recess.
Starting point is 00:45:13 Okay. Um, that's really annoying and it is totally a momentum killer. What's worse is that that mechanic is the absolute basis for the entire end game because they're unlocks a type of monster called a tempered monster, which is essentially high rank plus. Yeah. Uh, the only way to get tempered monsters is to find tempered
Starting point is 00:45:39 monster tracks. They have to be tempered though. Yes. They have to be blue. They can't be green. Yeah. And the like the process. You can't apply rhyme and reason to wear tempered.
Starting point is 00:45:52 You can't you can't apply rhyme and reason to where the tracks are going to be. You just got to run around like an idiot. Well, there is or do the complete opposite thing of just doing the other way of building the bar. The no, no, no, what you do is you look up. What's your tempered monster track farming guide? Well, and they go here's the critical path to run through
Starting point is 00:46:12 Wild Sparrow. The Rathene track here, the Barath track here, the Rathene track here, the Barath. The replies to my tweets were two things was one, just do investigations or none of that. Whatever. Just do the type of missions that just build it up anyway or load into the zone, go to the first track, load out of
Starting point is 00:46:29 the zone, load back into zone and do that over and over and over again. That's correct. Fun. So that's that's literally so investing. That's the basis of getting tempered investigations, which is the only way to get all the good stuff in the end game. That is the biggest problem with this game.
Starting point is 00:46:45 It is. It's a significant design problem. I know why it's there. It's there because there's only 30 goddamn monsters. Yeah, there, there isn't enough. There's not a lot of meat in this monster meat. So there's there. The monster list isn't very high and there is no third
Starting point is 00:47:01 difficulty for you to advance to, right? So the every part of this is to try and physically slow you down. Triforce pieces. So yes, it is. It is Triforce pieces and it sucks and the reason. So what happened was temper Joe track Triforce pieces though temper Joe exactly where they're going to temper Joe is
Starting point is 00:47:22 a really good example. Well, they tell you what square they're going to be on. Yeah. But also in the Wind Waker remake, they retooled it further but whatever. So temper Joe came out with little fanfare. He just showed up on a Friday night. He was on a he was an unannounced event quest and everyone
Starting point is 00:47:39 went, Yay! And then found out, hey, he drops the rarest upgrade material so far, which like I've been playing the game for months and not gotten more than one great sword of these stream stones. I was really frustrated and he drops tons of them like you can easily so many woolly, but he's the toughest fight in the game after playing it a couple times and failing to beat
Starting point is 00:48:00 it on the first day. Hey, like guess what? This is the best quest in the entire game and I think pretty much all the all the crazy Monster Hunter players are like, yeah, this this quest is the best quest in the entire game. It disappeared on like Sunday morning. Well, again, without any fanfare, everyone with the what the fuck?
Starting point is 00:48:17 Wow. Did that? I was getting so bored with the fuck because by the way, all the best rewards draw from Nergigante, Valhazak, Teo, Stray, Kushal, Dora, where you got a separate. Yeah. So the already small monster list becomes five monsters. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:48:31 Yeah. And that sucks. Yeah. And then that's why during the spring festival, which is happening now, they're going, hey, Tempered Devil Joe is available every single day until the 16th. And it's like, and now the end game in the older games was not this and therefore better.
Starting point is 00:48:45 The end game in the older games was G rank and you probably heard me say G rank. It's the list of strong badasses. You pick one and you go. So G rank completely rebalances everybody again as if it were a jump to high rank the sequel. But at the end of the day, when you want to fight the next monster, you pick it and you go fight it.
Starting point is 00:49:01 Yes. Yeah. Okay. And the monster list in G rank is 50 plus. They are difficult enough that you the difficulty spike in G rank is enough that it stops being I made my set. I'm going to use this for half of high rank. It's boy, that guy's really tough.
Starting point is 00:49:22 I'm going to make a fire resistant set to deal with that. It must be pretty frustrating to old school fans for that this mechanic to turn out this way because the introduction of it in terms of like just the normal footsteps or something that I could see there being lots of trepidation. There was lots and lots of trepidation, but then it turned out okay. It turned out great right for 90% of the game and then at the
Starting point is 00:49:44 end the ball gets dropped and then you go fuck. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. All right. All right. This was your job.
Starting point is 00:49:51 This will likely it feels like it right be significantly mitigated upon whatever expansion content comes out with this game. That being said, they've already rebalanced a bunch of stuff and they're supposedly another update coming out in April. So maybe they'll actually work on it. It'll be too late for you though and too late for me. But yeah, it is a bummer.
Starting point is 00:50:13 It is a genuine bummer and to the people that are like, oh, it's not a big it's like it's so bad and running around the fucking routes to go to the right tracks and pick them up nine times in a row for a random chat. So the say I want a stream zone or a specific decoration, right? Wolves. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:50:35 Okay. Well, I have to fight a temper Delta Dragon. Okay. So I'm going to go to the other recess and I'm going to run around for a random chance for certain tracks to spawn. I'm going to pick them up for a random chance for that to spawn an investigation. Then I'm going to fight that investigation for a random
Starting point is 00:50:49 chance of the decoration that I want to drop. But you know, it's a gold one though. So there's a chance. No, it becomes they all become purple rewards on tempered and that's what those decorations for and it's and it's it's slot machine on slot machine on slot machine, yes, which leads to like all the people I was playing Monster Hunter with.
Starting point is 00:51:08 I've now switched to Warframe because there's no more like it's not that there's nothing more to do in Monster Hunter. It's just that to get the things that we want is so out of our control that we one of the best things about Monster Hunter is you go, hey, I want to make this set. How do I do that? Go kill that. OK, great.
Starting point is 00:51:28 How do I increase the chances of getting that? Trap it or break that or break that or break that. That's the best part of the loot system in Monster Hunter. And then at the very finish line, they go, no, full random like full chance. Look at the draw and it sucks. I like seems like an attempt to just squeeze a bunch of random hours.
Starting point is 00:51:51 Absolutely. It is absolutely an attempt to keep people playing longer so that they're around for the updates and the engagement stays and and and again to like just looking at the suggestions as well where it's like load and load out or whatever. And the one of them that was kind of like the most practical version, the most practical solution that was still like there's an issue here is do other things, find whatever
Starting point is 00:52:15 things you want to do that interest you. And while you're doing those things, you'll happen across these these tracks. So just do other stuff in the game and the problem is I'm like, but there's nothing I want to do more in the game right now than this and anything that secondary is pretty much beat this kill this thing or capture it or make make this weapon or make this armor.
Starting point is 00:52:35 But if I don't have any armor or weapons that I'm particularly aiming for, I'm just trying to go down this way. They used to they used to obscure and I guess my perspective is that is the fault there, but it's they used to slow you down in different ways in the older games. They would slow you down by not telling you what quests would advance the story. Oh, jeez.
Starting point is 00:52:55 Wow. So you would just the average player would just randomly go through like every single fucking quest on the star list and that takes forever. And then oh, I don't lock the new stars and then people figured out like, oh, we'll just do the key that it's these four quests do these ones and because all of these are results of the monster list being low because it they can only make
Starting point is 00:53:18 so many for this release because like three you I want to say had 67 like that's more than twice it now to put it in a perspective world is like the monster list is fine like they need more and there will be an update I can guarantee you that's going to add like 20 or more. We're looking at the Capcom vanilla release problem. This is the vanilla. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:53:48 Yeah, yeah. It's the same in everything else they do. However, like however entry much like other games that had vanilla releases in which the roster was too small monster hunter did have one release which had a hilariously low roster and that was tried. You remember that game for the Wii monster to try that had Willie put it in perspective now that you've played the series
Starting point is 00:54:11 you fought everything but like three four monsters. Sure. Right. Imagine if instead of I think it's 29 or 30 now there were 18. Yeah, that'd be dry real quick and half of them were fucking great Jagras to Angenath. Right. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:54:34 It try has a hilariously low roster. That's not try what tries a disaster that game and also a couple of them are just fucking terrible like fucking gobel is awful just the worst and it's got plays but yeah, yeah. I it's way better than it could have been but it is disappointing and it's like weight these problems will be fixed with Marvel infinite to super. Yeah, whatever.
Starting point is 00:55:07 Yeah, I'm I'm like my brain is going to check out what it checks out but like coming back your way in there like if you checked out now that would be very disappointing. No, he's just saying like he might know what I mean. I just mean that like it'll like if the if the pull to go get that cool thing fades then it'll just be like let me go pop this in and see what's happening as opposed to like a yeah like fuck what's going on right for regular following it up and
Starting point is 00:55:42 like that'll definitely slow down a lot of my progress. There was a leaked DLC list that included devil Joe and had everybody on the roster put my plus four or five monsters that haven't shown up yet and my worry is that they're all going to show up like once every two months or something that's not fast enough and like cuz good Joe came out right like oh look Joe guess how long I spent on Joe three hours then I got my sword and I was done that's it and now the spring
Starting point is 00:56:16 festival is happening so that's cool but if they want people to keep coming back and playing this game for months and months you got to put more shit to smack with your sword man and I know the part of it too is like choosing a different weapon is like a different way but I'm pretty satisfied with my lance at this point I keep saying I'm going to change my weapon but I've spent 99% of that game with my great sword let's take a quick word from our sponsors podcast this
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Starting point is 01:02:32 What you can do is tell me about PAX. I didn't really do much honestly. No, um, yeah, I went to PAX East to show off the game I was working on. It's bad to go into a PAX with one hour of sleep. Why? My flight was that early. Oh, shit.
Starting point is 01:02:52 Like go to PAX, go to bed for about an hour, hour, half, I think, then flight was at like 6 a.m. But so we've done panels. We've done autograph signings. I think it's every time we do a new thing. It's like awkward for like 15 minutes. We're like, all right, sitting down. Try to figure out.
Starting point is 01:03:11 Get your bearings. I want to know the flow. What's going on? Which way? Do I part my balls on this one? And I'm presented with a really nice booth by Dangan Entertainment where they set up, set up the takeover of the game. And I sit down and I don't know what the fuck I need to do here.
Starting point is 01:03:27 I'm sitting and I'm like, well, what do they do? What do what do game developers do when I go and sit down and play a demo? Like they usually just stand there. They usually just stand there and look for, you know, pro tips and focus stuff. But you being the booth babe that you are. No, no. For first 45 minutes, I'm just standing around slack jaw. Just what am I supposed to do?
Starting point is 01:03:46 And eventually I see like some people starting to play and they're just, they're getting wracked or they're pressing the wrong things. And I'm like, oh, you troll them. Like, hey man, you're playing the game wrong. Since I'd say a good 70% of people were there that were like familiar at least with best friends and some shape where for them. They'd be looking at me and they want to talk. They want to, hey, man, what's up?
Starting point is 01:04:12 But they're playing the game at the same time. They got to choose which one. So I look and they're getting exploded by barrels or whatever. And they turn and they go, oh, oh, yeah. Yeah, no, I really like the podcast. So I'm like, great, great. Oh, yeah, you died there and press start to continue. And they're like, oh, oh, and after maybe two or three times,
Starting point is 01:04:37 there was a guy that was like in there and he was like, yeah, I really love, oh, yeah, I really swear. So the reboot video, blah, blah, blah, blah. And he's like in there, he's just joking around and he's like, oh, shit. And he's like, oh, and he got, he got like game over it in like two minutes, which is hard. And I go, yeah, it's not that easy. Right.
Starting point is 01:04:57 It's kind of talk and play. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So every so often, if anyone that was like, I could tell was like, was in there as a fan. I'd be like, it's not hard, but it's not easy. And then almost everyone was like, yeah. Now make me laugh. Also, how come you don't know this game well that you've never played?
Starting point is 01:05:30 You just run the whole thing that I know inside out. Oh, you son of a bitch. That's cruel. Like, like maybe, maybe two or three times and at least two of those times were with people I know that I've seen before at cons and stuff. That is a unique form of catharsis. That is so good. But it must have been utilized, I want to say 25 percent of four days because it was
Starting point is 01:06:02 just a person that didn't really say anything, didn't give me like anything to work off. And I'm like, OK, I don't know what this person's dealing. So I'm not I'm not going to say that. Dude, I fucking love everything about that. So barrels in this game come down and like hit you like the final fight style and everyone gets hit because no one knows it's coming where they are. Yeah. But I do.
Starting point is 01:06:25 Yeah. So Barrel Chan is a strong enemy, very hard to defeat. So I did honestly get a lot of good not not feedback per se, but it really saddens me that in 2018 a beat him up. I now realize needs a tutorial. That's weird because it needs it bad because some guy will die very quickly. And I'm like, he's like, what the fuck? What happened to my life?
Starting point is 01:06:49 And I go, well, you spammed your special move that drains your life. I don't know how young the guy was. I'm bad with like ages, especially for guys. I'm like, I don't under 40, right? You're 40. Oh, wait, you're 18. Two generations of kids had no arcades. Exactly.
Starting point is 01:07:05 Counterpoint. That's yeah. The good ones or the best ones need them because the systems are that in depth. It's it's it's there to be like said Goku mother fuck three. Sure. But there's a bunch of guys on either side. You can't take care of all of them at once. So you spam your special.
Starting point is 01:07:22 Yeah. As in Streets of Rages and Final Fight. And it takes away life because it would be because it's an invincible God move that has invincibility. But that wasn't noticed. That was not noticed. Yeah. And now I realize that somewhere in the game it has to be said somewhere because
Starting point is 01:07:40 you just don't want those first 15 minutes to be someone going, why am I dying? Because there's lots of shit going on the screen, whatever. And I'm just like, it needs a fucking tutorial. And also, I don't I forget how many people don't know maybe a Super Nintendo or whatever that still don't know that on these systems, a confirms and B cancels. A lot of people seem really confused by that. And I'm like, well, yeah, because also you're talking about because on PlayStation circle cancels.
Starting point is 01:08:11 Yeah. And X, which is where B is. Okay. So this is where QA can get involved. Right. Because the Super Nintendo era was based on A's confirming. Right. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:08:24 Absolutely. That is because of Japanese games in general always had that as the central button. When it came along to PlayStation, you had a weird thing where the switch from B and A to iconography. Yeah. Created an issue where in Japan, Circle was your ding, ding, ding. Good. Circle's thumbs up.
Starting point is 01:08:49 Correct. X is bad. X is bad. Wrong. Back off. No, I know that for PlayStation. Yeah. So the placement of the buttons made it so that they continued to confirm with this button
Starting point is 01:08:59 to the right. But then why did Tony like America? Because the American list of compliance guidelines wanted X to mark the spot. When you confirm something in North America, you do it by hitting the X on the spot. Circle's not negative. Tell us. You want to hear a fun little side effect of this nonsense? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:09:21 I recently found out, you played FF 15. It was pretty annoying to jump whenever you wanted to pick up an item, wasn't it? Yeah. You know how they never caught that? Because in the Japanese version, it's Circle to pick up an item. And it never came up once in the entire development. They just switched. So now they passed in an option to change it.
Starting point is 01:09:43 Yeah. But no one ever played the English version that actually had the chance to change that. But it was actually a compliance guideline that stated that you have to have this button be your confirmation button. And this button is your cancel. So that switch occurred around a generation of PlayStation 1. Right. And ever since then, it's been A buttons down there, right?
Starting point is 01:10:11 Even on Xbox controllers now. Xbox A is usually confirmed. Yeah. But now the South button is confirming and the right button is cancelling because of that switch at that point. But if you go back to the Nintendo games where the A button was the right button. It also says on the screen that A confirms. So I don't know.
Starting point is 01:10:29 Lots of people. I printed out a chart. I printed out the Switch Pro Controller chart. And I'm like, oh, a chart. This will save my voice from saying over and over again. Press L trigger to run. This is the Switch version? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:10:43 Yeah. The Switch screws me up on that because A is in a different location. No, not even that. But the only template I could find just shows the bumpers and not the back triggers. So I don't know how to fucking denote that it's the triggers. So people are not pressing. I don't understand. We're all guilty of it somewhere in some LP.
Starting point is 01:11:04 But I think at some point we always press all buttons to see what things happen, what things do. Hopefully. And it doesn't happen a lot of the time. I guess it's because you want to play a million games. So you just come in. If it's immediately things are happening, you're good. Remember that ladder in Last of Us where I pressed every button on the controller ten
Starting point is 01:11:24 times but the one button that would work. Right. So remember multiple times during the 360 arcade era where we'd get some sort of classic release on XBLA or even something ported to the Switch to the Wii and you'd go to press what should be jump and it's actually shoot. You're playing Mega Man. You know what I mean? And your brain goes, no, what?
Starting point is 01:11:48 Stop. Huh? And it takes a second to go like, oh, fuck. It's the default based on the old layout. Yeah. And based on the lettering, not the position. And the controller has changed over time. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:11:59 So like you're playing like the old Genesis game. That's really bad because the jump and shoot were specifically made so that your thumb would rest on jump and your thumb would just naturally tap on shoot. But now it's instead of going like diagonally up and to the left, you're supposed to be going diagonally up and to the right or some shit. Oh man. Mega Man X is to me the ultimate because that's a game where by like early on you have to get used to the skill of charging up your buster while dash jumping.
Starting point is 01:12:28 Yeah. And that requires like pressing three buttons while you're holding one down and then you press one followed by the other. And like by changing up which one it is changes whether or not you can even do that. Yeah. I never played the Mega Man X collections on PS2. So like I imagine that that's fucking weird too. As long as the tip of my thumb is resting on the shot button and then the jump and the
Starting point is 01:12:52 dash are coming from the bottom button or the south in the right button, then you can I'll be I never ever got used to it and just you every dash I ever did Mega Man was like forward forward. Oh yeah. And I just got proficient at mashing the fucking shit out of that. No, no, no. You got to do it because when you're done the wall and you want to do a dash wall jump. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:13:18 There's the only way to do it. I have to do those and I guess I'm not shooting like I never got because I have tiny bitch thumbs man. Okay. Okay. I'll have a big cool man thumb like you that that game definitely has that and or under our shoulder button unless your shoulder button was rotating through your your powers. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:13:39 But anyway, my booth mates are super cool. The guys from the guys that made fight night are really cool because all we did was talk about Astar the robot. I can put my arm back on. You can't fuck that. And don't you put it in your mouth because they're Canadian. So we're all is it about that and like seek such a wholesome boy. Yes, very.
Starting point is 01:13:57 He's so good. And the other games there at the booth were Brave Earth Prologue, which is from the guy that made I want to be the guy. But it's like a Castlevania like cool. So that was really awesome. There's also is it fucked like I want to be the guy. No, it's hard, but it's not. Yeah, I want to it's not I want to be the guy levels.
Starting point is 01:14:16 And the other game that was cool that never really got to see because it was always the opposite of me was called Super Sport Matchmen, which is basically multiplayer party game type thing with pixel art, but it was about sports. But the sports were all wrong. There were like amalgamations of a bunch of different in what way just the rules would be mixed up or you'd think you'd win, but you lost because you didn't realize how to play the game because the sports all mixed up. And that's what I was described to me.
Starting point is 01:14:46 And there was lots of hooting and hollering. So people seem to have fun with that. Suda 51 came and played my game, which was fucking weird and I wanted to run away, but I watched it happen and I watched him again was a bumble and not know how to play. And I'm just being like, because they because the guy that works for my publisher is Suda's interpreter. Yeah. So that's it in.
Starting point is 01:15:09 Yeah. And they're like, here you go. Try this. And he's playing. It's just going. And then he just puts it down like that was OK. I don't. You just gave me a controller.
Starting point is 01:15:20 You didn't say everything you want. So later on, I got to go to the. I didn't get to play many games at all. I got to play like four games because I have 30 minutes every morning before everyone filled before all the red nose filter in quickly. What you got? What you got? Is anything on?
Starting point is 01:15:39 It's like Travis strikes again. It's the little beat them up section that's overhead. And just in general, I really liked it. It was like fast. It was fun. You had a lot of special moves. And I was like, OK, that's cool. Was the combat like it was good.
Starting point is 01:15:52 But was it like the same as it was, but just like zoomed out? So it's like it's like two buttons for like a light attack and a heart attack for charging the beam katana. It's click on the on the stick and it was shake the pro controller twice like fully charged. I'm like, perfect. That's good. I didn't get to play with it.
Starting point is 01:16:15 No, I'm not the pro controller. The joy con. Sorry. But it controlled all well and it did feel like no more heroes e combat where things were dying quickly and whatever. So I play it. The only thing I really didn't like about it is that there's seemed to be no voice acting at all.
Starting point is 01:16:29 Maybe they're still working that out because the voice actor for Travis is still like not confirmed and he was like, what's the deal? I haven't heard anything. And I'm like, that's a David Hader situation. Like Master Miller has to be there. Are they waiting on the check to know? No, someone said there's still a union dispute with voice acting. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:16:46 But I'm worried about that. But I finished playing Travis strikes again. I beat the beat the boss. He had another phase because in GDC, they went, you defeated my first phase Travis, but you'll never defeat my next phase at Paxies. So then he's like, all right, we're in it. When you get to the boss, it'd be so cool to play this on tour. Every time it goes, see the next one, you get to see the next phase.
Starting point is 01:17:09 And I still got a second phase. But I apparently had a third that I finished a game and I like that. And I leave the Nintendo boot and suit is standing there with his interpreter. And I was like, oh, hi again. He's like, oh, hello. And I'm like, hey, can you let him know that I just played Travis strikes again? And he goes, OK, like tall suit. And he goes, oh, OK, thank you.
Starting point is 01:17:28 Thank you. And I go, it was pretty good, but it wasn't as good as my game. And I'm like, as soon as I say, I'm like, this could either be a really good idea or this could be really bad. I don't do these things often. I'm such a chariot boy. And it's going through a translation to Babelfish. So he says it.
Starting point is 01:17:46 And I just I look at him like, like, I understand what he's saying. He goes, oh, oh, oh, yeah, OK, all right. Yeah, I'm like, good. You're lucky that suit is one because I wouldn't do with anybody else. Yeah, because like him, like, who else would be cool? Like, Yoko Taro would be like, oh, yeah, you're going to be like start making out with his little jacket. I can't believe you think a man named Yoko Taro really exists.
Starting point is 01:18:14 Yeah, just a robot. Fuck, man. Fuck off, Kamiya. Super quick also in the Nintendo booth. I got to play S and K heroines tag team frenzy. Heroine tag frenzy. Yeah, are you serious? Heroine is actually called heroine's heroines tag team frenzy.
Starting point is 01:18:36 That's fucking dumb. The switch is incredibly rough. It's like sub 30 frames per second. But how's sure me sure me wasn't in the build. Well, fuck this. Everyone else was. But I talked to a guy and they're like, yeah, no frame rate. They absolutely know.
Starting point is 01:18:52 And they're they're aiming aiming for 60 still, though. It's like we described last time one button being special move and just be forward special move down. It's fucking weird. Yeah, like I'm playing characters. I know I'm playing like Yuri and my or whatever and the smash one layout. But I and the thing I really didn't like is you can't beat opponents without finishing them off with a super.
Starting point is 01:19:18 Oh, they don't die until they get they just get dizzy and then they stop. And it's a finished chance and you're supposed to now a super, which I also didn't like was an R1 button press. I didn't know that at the time because there was no control layout because I'm pressing all things with doing all emotions. Oh, what the fuck? And every match I saw leading into me fighting were timeouts because no one knew how to.
Starting point is 01:19:43 That's how people want to press our one to do the super. Yeah. OK. And it's it's not even imparting to you that you must finish. But I'm like, what? No, it should just be like a fatality thing. Well, imagine if you played smash the very first time and didn't know that you need a final smash. No, no, no, no. This isn't taking things from smash.
Starting point is 01:20:01 This is taking things from PlayStation All-Star Battle Royale. Yeah. But what I mean is what a good influence. But what I'm saying is if you're fighting, if you're playing Smash 64 for the first time and like you never saw the how to play and you walked in and they were in, let's say, Hyrule Castle. Yeah, you would just beat up the opponent for a really long time. Yeah, but eventually they go flying out of the screen. Any hits without even thinking about it or they would fall off a platform.
Starting point is 01:20:24 Yeah. Well, in a wide stage, they wouldn't. But yeah, OK. Yeah. It's PlayStation All-Stars. Yeah. At the end of the day, it was kind of fast, even though the frame rate was still weird and like the characters, like the backgrounds and characters were the same colorful. They're all really bright. Yeah. And it was hard to see where you are going on.
Starting point is 01:20:41 That was like my actual B4. I'm like, I don't know if they're actually going to fix that or realize that's kind of a problem. All the footage of the game right now has the characters like totally are blended in way too much with the loud background. Yeah. I agree. But aside from that, like I still had fun with it, but I was just like, I'd I'd please have a pro setting for the moves.
Starting point is 01:21:03 Please don't. Please have that as an option somewhere. I don't know if they will, though. That's that's more of a fighting X-layer thing going on now. Speaking of which, Dr. and Dark got to got to play him a little bit. Yeah. Voice actor couldn't hear it.
Starting point is 01:21:19 It was too loud and they had no headphones for I don't even want to hear the rest of this, but he he was the same. I like his costume a lot. That was pretty cool. I got no one was playing that game every time I walk by. Was Akira there himself in the flesh? I didn't see him. No, I don't see me.
Starting point is 01:21:36 It was it was had one set up in the Sony booth, like in the back. Like it was hard to see because you could have totally just been like in the quiet hours before everyone's there. Just go like apply and just be like explosive. Yeah. That's why I couldn't hear. My audition explosive over and over. I couldn't hear it. I was so sad.
Starting point is 01:21:56 Aside from that, I walked by the giant Detroit booth. Oh, I have not watched any footage of Detroit since I played the build in at Montreal Comic Con. I saw where the slay workers. I saw kind of I saw a trailer that shows Lance Henriksen is in the game. What? I did not know this. If it's been in trailers, I hadn't seen it.
Starting point is 01:22:19 I hadn't seen it. So Lance Henriksen seems to be some type of computer or Android genius. And he's talking about some bullshit. I never stopped to really listen. I just always saw his face when I walked by to get to more important games. Wow. Let's have the guy that plays Bishop be in my game about androids.
Starting point is 01:22:43 Oh, yeah. David Cage somewhere is going, of course, I am amazing. Bishop, who would think of doing something so on the nose? Bishop is one of the most well written and tragic Android figures I thought he would be perfect for my game. Like 20 years later, 30 more. Yeah, 30 years. He hasn't he hasn't been relevant since like AVP.
Starting point is 01:23:10 He hasn't been in a major movie as far as I know. Bishop's Android Ness is like tangential to his life. It doesn't matter. 1986. Oh, yeah, my age, my age. Yeah, 30 years. If he could have pulled Harrison Ford. Is Rutger Hauer still even alive? He is. He's great.
Starting point is 01:23:29 Paul Rutger. How is he an observer? Great. Yeah. So fuck that. That's that's the worst. That that's another like wow. But you know what the problem is, though? You know, it's the first part of that.
Starting point is 01:23:41 That's for you. Yeah, that's not for anyone younger than you who doesn't know or care about when I see that. I'm like, that's specific. That's ready player one shit where it's like, well, thanks for pandering. Yes, I remember Bishop. He's yeah.
Starting point is 01:23:56 But do you though? Oh, don't worry. So we're there. We're there with did the people working there have the little circles on their heads? I didn't. I have a question for that. I didn't go into the little Detroit Boothie thing.
Starting point is 01:24:08 I have a question for me. Yes. When you saw Lance Henriksen on the screen, yes, talking to the Androids. Did you clap? I did not. Did you clap when you saw it? No, OK.
Starting point is 01:24:19 As you're supposed to when movies reference or movies or things reference things, right? Do you? Did you admire its purity? I did not. Really, again, want to messenger the messenger is super legit. If you if you like Ninja Gaiden, what's right?
Starting point is 01:24:37 Yeah, if you like Ninja Gaiden and you love Shovel Knight, it is exactly to Ninja Gaiden what Shovel Knight was to like Mario and Mega Man. I'm going to forever. It was super good. I'm going to forever have a five second delay on that. That's fine. Because I have my OC.
Starting point is 01:24:52 Plus, you also really like the name in general. Because it was from an OC. So you flashback to OC as soon as I said it. Yeah, exactly. Plus, I met the developers from Quebec City. So every so often I walk by their booth and I just hear the most thickest Quebec wall. And I'm like, that's always nice to get a little bit of home.
Starting point is 01:25:10 I played Soul Calibur six for a few rounds. How is that? Which one does it feel like? I it feels like to great because I mostly played Killick because I didn't really get a chance to play more than like two matches. So I was like, I need to play Killick. So here's a weird thing about it. It's like, wow, when you're playing as Killick or I'm sure any character.
Starting point is 01:25:32 I'm I guess I'm playing Soul Calibur two and that's it. I don't feel what's great. So remake, why might as well just play the HD version that's on Xbox 360? It's not a shiny. Yeah. When you do Soul Charge and you turn into Necalli or when you do Soul Charge, I'm assuming to anybody
Starting point is 01:25:51 because everyone gets buffs and new shit. Yeah. Then I'm like, then there's Mike. There's new shit. You're playing Soul Calibur 2 EX. It's almost like the variations in MKX where I'm like, oh, I'll just switch to the other moveset. What about the not clash system? It didn't happen that often,
Starting point is 01:26:09 but it does feel kind of like I echo what Max said. It does feel like it's a cool thing that looks cool and you're not. It's nothing that feels like no one's going to get hit by it later on. Yeah, yeah, I wouldn't I wouldn't think. OK, but I still enjoyed it. It looks it looks nice, but it doesn't look as nice as I thought. Maybe the build still early. This didn't even have Zasalamel in it or anything.
Starting point is 01:26:30 So it didn't have cages falling down from the sky. Did you try gruff? I know he did. I was I was about to and I got kicked off. The Sony guy was there like, please leave. Please leave because all the all everyone was coming to go influence somewhere else girl. The last thing I decided to spend my time playing with Shaq Fu. Fuck, yeah.
Starting point is 01:26:51 Which the booth was filled cowards. Yeah, all the time. Yeah. So we made it a beat him up because we're fucking cowards. OK, now here's a thing. Here's a thing. Here's a thing. This is your take away. Here's a thing. Shaq Fu is back. No, it's not.
Starting point is 01:27:07 It wasn't a beat him up. It really is. No, it really is. You're Shaq Shaq probably can't tell the difference. This is your fucking gourmet hot take that the Shaq Fu remake or release whatever is garbage. It's not a fighter. Exactly. Why?
Starting point is 01:27:20 Because if it was just a fighting game, you couldn't get all the shit in, which is that if you are a huge Shaquille O'Neal fan, like if you just followed his career with great interest, especially post basketball, this is actually game of the year. Oh, OK. In the sense that you'll do combos and a big dirty logo shows up. This is icy hot combo, right?
Starting point is 01:27:47 Which is his icy hot promotion for the patch. Wow. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I don't know how they got away with the logo. When he's doing combos, he'll just occasionally with very little fanfare shout Kazam. Yeah. The very first line of dialogue in the very first cut scene is Shaq going, my story starts with full of holes and plot
Starting point is 01:28:07 inconsistencies and proceeds into the cut scene. Yes. Did you hear the rap song? Yes, the like, I'm going to take down Lo Wang. Yeah. And I'm like, Lo Wang, are you like calling out 3D realms? Like, what do you do? Oh, no, there's an actual villain just called Lo Wang. It is it then dives into
Starting point is 01:28:29 Kung Pao, enter the fist territory of you're putting on some thick accents from people that probably don't have those accents. Classic humor. But a woman like a Chinese woman picks up little Shaq baby. And he's like, I grew up like everyone did in China. Like he's just right. That's great. He's Chinese. He's the chosen one.
Starting point is 01:28:54 Of course, he could have done much like the chosen one. You could have done icy hot combos in a fighting game to get off it. No, but it's it's it's way harder to it is. Is the trash list like emptying out? I know it's not the the it's way it's way harder to tell when like a single player beat him up is awful. They need to get a reference in terms of you can fight a bad fighting game. It gets exposed faster than a beat them up done.
Starting point is 01:29:23 So let's I didn't get to the gameplay. It's awful. It's not fun to play. OK, you have full 3D movements, 3D, right? Just really just like you're walking. You go up, down, whatever. Yep. If you go up and there's a guy up and you want to punch, he will not punch up to that like level as you walk. He then just transitioned suddenly back to 2D.
Starting point is 01:29:48 It's the most awkward shit ever. OK, so it's doing it's trying to do beat him up with a plane, but it's 3D. It's all 3D models. So he runs upwards, but then just turns back to punch right. It's so awkward because guys come at you from like the upper plane to go down. I want to punch. Not, man. Not, man. It's meta like. I can't even think of anything like it.
Starting point is 01:30:12 It was it was not fun to actually play. The combat is not 3D, but the movement is. Yeah, we have created a new form of awful. Can they attack you from the top? I I some characters can. I don't know. I was just like I was laughing at bits of the stories, but bits of the references.
Starting point is 01:30:31 But like when I actually came to play, I was like, this is not great. It's coming down June. Maybe there's time to adjust it, but whatever. A German spy took me out and leave him for a lovely dinner. They knew him there. The restaurant's like, oh, you have guests tonight. He's like, yes, I do. Hello, Mr. Spy.
Starting point is 01:30:48 And he just was known because I forgot that he like reviews restaurants on his YouTube channel, which is crazy to me. I didn't know this, but he was just like, oh, it's very good air. And it was Fugu Dachau. So is the Brazilian steakhouse. Oh, yes. God. Yeah. It was it was good.
Starting point is 01:31:05 You places of YouTube taste, apparently. You know, considering a biscuit last time. Yes, true. I didn't lose my passport this time, though. Yeah, yeah, that's nice. And finally, our friends, Frenchie and Jess are awesome and lovely and it was fun hanging out with them. So as my packs, as soon as I'm done with this podcast,
Starting point is 01:31:25 I have to write a big document of like, all right, here's what we got to fix. Here's here's tutorial for beat them up in 20. Hey, I saw a guy jump into the thing and then the fucking well, switch brick didn't we got any. Did any crashes every 10 minutes? It's a dev kit. And I was like, sorry, crashes, sorry, crashes. So did any young QA roused about show up at the at the booth
Starting point is 01:31:52 and destroy the game in front of you? And no, the walk away with the smoke trail behind them. There was someone that I don't know how, like, just was in an area where motorcycle guys are going back and forth. And one was inside the background and I was like, hit him, hit him. They're like, kid, he's in the background. I'm like, oh, you didn't get the points. And he's like, oh, so I was like, and I'm thinking,
Starting point is 01:32:15 I have this. I have no idea. I have this image of like Magama finding your bill. Yeah. Yeah. You turn around and when you turn back, like he has, like, taped a photo of the Marvel glitch on to a switch. He got BB in the game somehow. Yeah. And just walks away going, yeah. And everyone's like, fuck.
Starting point is 01:32:39 There was a QA people. There was an email where I'm saying where I'm saying down, taking like a little break and I'm just like looking off in the distance. This is on day four. And I'm just like, oh, God, it's so dead. And some girls kneeling down, like looking at me going like Matthew. And I'm like, oh, hi. And she's like, do you remember me?
Starting point is 01:32:59 And I'm like, Stephanie. And she's like, yeah. And I'm like, oh, my God, it's a girl that was another lead tester when I was working a bug tracker. Oh, wow, that's fucking. And why this is even weirder is I'm like, oh, well, she's like, what are you doing here? I'm like, oh, I'm showing off the game.
Starting point is 01:33:20 And she's like, cool. I'm like, how did you found me? You knew that I was here? And she's like, what? No. Like she has no. Yeah. The last time I saw you, you were like a bug tester. Sure. Happened to walk by. She's displaying something at a boot.
Starting point is 01:33:35 She's working at a merch booth or something. I'm like, oh, you just over 100,000 people that walked in and around you walk by me and recognize me. So this happens to happen to you before, I guess. But it's happened to me many times at each PAX. There's a ton of people that I walk by that I'm like, hey, what's up from a completely different walk of life at the moment? And they go, hey, woolly, what are you doing here?
Starting point is 01:33:57 And the first time it's happened to me. It's not like we're ever going to see like because keep it up. No, no, no. But the point is because like folks from QA back in the day made it out and are now working at this company on this game or at this and that. And so people in the industry that all came from the same QA floor, you know, like I've run into them at multiple PAXes. It's it's a cool thing. Hey, you, you didn't burn it down.
Starting point is 01:34:19 Good for you. Yeah, basically. I got to use the bathroom. Excuse me. That's good. Use that bathroom. It's very rare for you using the bathroom. Yeah, he likes to hold it in. I'm a strong bladder boy. So I'm not sure you saw this where he had a panel where he made coffee. That's the panel. You'd make coffee and try different blends and things.
Starting point is 01:34:42 And he would try it and announce to the crowd that it was not very good. And who would like to come up and try it? And that was the panel. It said, Swery makes special coffee. I didn't go to it because I had them and that's fantastic. And then there was like another good, the good life panel. So that was happened separately. And I'm like, oh, but you decided to have another panel where you make coffee.
Starting point is 01:35:07 This is the important one. And it was like, is he going to make coffee and like make some sort of analogy of how like making games? No, no, make coffee. And of course, again, for the fourth year in a row, I couldn't go to Paximania Royal Rumble. Fucking are you ever going to get to go? No, because it's always at either when a signing is when I'm in bed or when I am manning a booth, I guess.
Starting point is 01:35:36 But Swery was in this Paximania. Well, will we ever go to see a Paximania Royal Rumble? We'll never get it. We'll no, no, we'll never see it. Even the online versions, we won't see. We'll also never get it. We'll never get in. Never. Never.
Starting point is 01:35:52 And Swery was in this one. And I don't know what happened. I don't know if. Did he win? No, but probably Dr. Tracksuit, probably one. I don't know anymore. So out of the loop on Paximania. I am also very out of the loop.
Starting point is 01:36:06 So, yeah, that's my big weekend. Well, what was the loop you did? All right. So what is the loop? For games, I played a bunch of Warframe. I'm not going to talk much about it. I only have like two things to say. The follow up to Second Dream, the quest I talked about last week is War Within.
Starting point is 01:36:23 It was being pitched to me as. How do I put this? Just as good, if not better. And my description of it would be if Second Dream is Warframe's big spoiler, then War Within would be spoiler EX. OK, in that it's DLC spoilers. It takes that shit
Starting point is 01:36:52 and pushes it in a direction you didn't think it could go. Not that it wouldn't, but that it could at all. And it reminds me and the only thing I want to say, because I don't want to talk anything about it other than it's a fantastic quest that like it feels it feels good enough to have been ripped from like a sci-fi uncharted like like that level, which is very weird in that game. But Yoko Taro did a GDC talk a little while ago
Starting point is 01:37:20 and he talked about near automata and don't worry, I'm not going to spoil. But he described how one of the things that he likes to do is limit players very strictly in certain aspects so that when you're very far into the game and you lift those restrictions, all of a sudden the player feels like to have infinite freedom and the whole world is opened up before them. Both Second Dream and War Within do that. And the reason why it's so like striking in War Within
Starting point is 01:37:53 is that I didn't think it could do that again, like right after, because how, but it doesn't. And it's it's extremely successful and fantastic. And I'm there's just there's two more small ones. But essentially, that's all the story in Warframe is those two quests and two other minor ones. Fucking a plus. Good job looking forward to sacrifice, which is the the next one, not the pay-per-group.
Starting point is 01:38:20 I'm looking forward to meeting you at sacrifice. Watch that ready player one. Why? Because I had to know. OK, it's it's the reason Ernest Klein's ready player one. Is that the guy's name? All right. So. I have a couple things to say about this movie. Now, nobody in this area.
Starting point is 01:38:46 Saw the movie. Yes, read the book. You read the book. Great. I remember you read the book. I was telling people on Twitter that you read it. I didn't actually need that, but I acted surprised. For drama. All right. So. If you care about ready player one, the movie
Starting point is 01:39:05 or possibly the book, you're going to want to skip ahead because I'm going to spoil the whole fucking movie. Like for real. Well, can you put a timestamp in here for when we stop talking about this shit? Sure thing. Spoilers end at two thirty four. We can we can use some sort of creative sound effect. Well, that's that's the sound of you just grab something from the eighties.
Starting point is 01:39:34 That'll just I was going to say, use one that people recognize something that says skip to so and so. How about the sound of Pac-Man dying? Well, what I mean is people need to know when to come back. Right. Oh, well, yeah. All right. So the movie has a lot of problems, but they can be summed up in a couple main points. Right. How how's about that Columbus, Ohio?
Starting point is 01:39:58 Who even gives a shit? How's about that? Percival doesn't matter. I'm going to I'm going to quote Matt on this person who didn't see the movie. Yeah. What's your most hated type of movie, Matt? Bad one. No, not good. Monday. You like great movies and you like shit. Nothing worse than a five out of ten.
Starting point is 01:40:22 Is you would rather have zero or ten? Yeah, it is a five out of ten. So that that alone is the biggest problem. It is slavish to its adherence to the 80s movie formula of good guy and good guy meets the girl and then the bad guy's bad. And the way that an 80s movie villain is the villains, kind of like a businessman, Biff kind of guy. But so is Stranger Things, one would say.
Starting point is 01:40:53 I would not say that. Stranger Things goes in its own direction and its plot structure. I know, I know, I know, I'm using it. OK, and its plot structure does not follow necessarily the beat for beat. Ready Player One has a serious plot structure problem and the movie. The acting is fine. There's I mean, there's no great performances, but it's fine. It's totally good.
Starting point is 01:41:15 I believe these people are are the characters kind of thing. The writing dialogue wise, like in terms of people talking to each other. More or less fine. The action is relatively well directed. Spielberg made the movie. It's still a Spielberg movie. So that part, that all all of its production, all the pieces that make a movie and movie, they're all competent, at least, right?
Starting point is 01:41:42 The problem happens from its structure and its basic premise and its use of its core elements, right? So the biggest problem with the movie is its structure by far. Now, I don't know how the book works in regards to this, but it is a pretty simple eighties, three act structure, right? It's it's even codified in the film as got to get the three keys. So each act of the movie is the is the fight for the three keys. Yes, the first key is your you're set up to the world.
Starting point is 01:42:11 Yeah. And your second key is your your mix up of various themes. You're rising. And your your third your third key is the giant action scene with Revelation. Exactly. So not only is each sequence literally identical in terms of goal because it's get the key. And this is you could you could say that's kind of like a never ending story kind of thing or like a classic adventure thing.
Starting point is 01:42:38 But in terms of plot structure, the acts, the the actions in and outside of the fake world are also identical. All three acts are literally exactly the same in that we're going to have the setup of the clue for the key. We're going to have the characters argue and sleuth and kind of do do the digging for the thing. They're going to engage the challenge. We're now going to move to the villains.
Starting point is 01:43:05 The villains are going to talk about being villains and what the plan is for the story after the villains win. Now we're going to cut back to the heroes as they start to succeed on the channel on the challenge. Now we're going to come back to the villains. Now the villains have found the real world location. Of the heroes, then the heroes are going to get the key. Then the villains are going to all they found them.
Starting point is 01:43:27 We're going to attempt to murder you because we're bad people. They're like children. They are in fact kids in an MMO. All right, so we're going to attempt to murder you. People are going to get murdered, but not the characters. The characters are going to miraculously escape to the new hideout where they will jump back into the game for the start of the second trial, which starts with sleuthing, going through the clue.
Starting point is 01:43:55 Oh, no, they found a real world location. They're going to the ending of the movie ends up being exactly the same thing. Like it is literally three mini movies back to back, identical. It's shocking in its repetition. There's. If it's been a while, but in the book, there's the in there's the one big real life storming of everyone's houses. And this that one I'm going to assume is the massive explosion that occurs.
Starting point is 01:44:27 It and like the and then he gets possible gets pulled into the enemy base and all that shit. Yeah, that happens. And that's the thing they modify that for. They literally have a base like enemy base. Yeah, they have a little enemy base. Yeah. So like the fact. So the biggest, like I mean, structure wise, when you're in the third act and you've seen the first two acts and identically
Starting point is 01:44:55 before they even reach the planet that they're supposed to get the key and do all that stuff, you already know in your heart that they're going to find their physical location and that the events of the finale are going to be alongside a real world attempted murder. And like, you know, that 20 minutes ahead of time, like way before. And it even ends the same way as they all do. Like it's it totally robs it entirely. And that's regardless of any of like the nerd rage that I would have
Starting point is 01:45:27 over references or anything like that. Like it's boring and it's so predictable. It is way more predictable than your average. Like like it's like it was more predictable than the Ninja Turtles movie. Like it's a weird poll. Well, I just pulled anything in 80s. But you know that part where they go to the base in the winter in Jersey in Ninja Turtles?
Starting point is 01:45:51 The that part was out of nowhere. There's no part of this at any point. That's out of nowhere. That's out of nowhere because there's nothing original in the film. And when I say that, I don't mean like because of all the references, I'm going to go and like, look, they didn't make anything new. Well, as you as you pointed out, the structure itself is a reference. Yes, the structure itself, even the command character is his his dad named him
Starting point is 01:46:17 in reference to like a comic book character. That's why his name is Wade Watts because it sounds like Bruce Banner or Clark Kent. And what you get in the book is like a paragraph to explain. Did you know that, by the way, that this was the thing? So the movie probably gets one up on the book by default because it can't do that. It literally can't do that. There's no time in a film to do that. The DeLorean shows up and no one says the word DeLorean.
Starting point is 01:46:42 You're right. It's just there. Yeah. No, the book has to stop and explain to you that this is now. Call now every time the DeLorean. I mean, the car every time we're talking about appears back to the future here. One of the great. Yeah, they're going to use the fucking back to the future twinkle sound effect as like a fucking right gas reel. But so the structure is a massive problem in terms of just general watchability.
Starting point is 01:47:06 The core premise and let's say it's outside of video games or pop culture. Let's just remove that entirely because I don't want people to take away that I hated the movie because oh, they ruined the Gundam or fucking whatever. Right. The core premise is so outside the realm of the average person's day to day life and so enamored with its own subject matter that the first like 40 minutes of the movie is like 90 percent exposition in terms of explaining what the Oasis is, explaining how the Oasis works. Explaining how this works, explaining why this is the thing.
Starting point is 01:47:43 Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's that's the same. It is crazy. Yeah, you are. But what you're talking about with the with how the first act goes and whatnot. Yeah, there's so much explanation in the book build up like before they even get to like the key shit. Well, they have to get to the key shit right away in the film. Like they're they're in the key shit in in the opening ten minutes.
Starting point is 01:48:08 OK, because they have to because there's a lot to yeah, they have to build up. Well, I'm curious to see what they would have dropped in with. But as a result of that, like, dude, it is it is nonstop exposition for two thirds of the movie to do it. Because it's not just exposition about the mechanics of the setting, which are not like intuitive at all, even the video game players, because there's all these little extra bonus rules.
Starting point is 01:48:33 It is then it's exposition about the nature of the story and who this holiday was and all this stuff. And it's just nonstop explaining to the audience. And as a result, the characters don't get to be themselves. The only thing that I know about any of these characters at all is what particular movies they like. OK, that's the only thing that has time because what you're getting. And what you're getting in the books is like Wade looks at a thing
Starting point is 01:49:03 and then like it goes back to it. For those who didn't know, blah, right? I don't know anything about Wade that the actor didn't do with like his portrayal of the character like the detail. Like here's where I live and here's the movies that I like. And that's that's no much it. That's that that I feel like God, it's been so long. So I don't remember if there was much outside of like the present,
Starting point is 01:49:31 you know, but the idea was just we're all stuck in a shitty fucking stack of trailers, right? Like it, the exposition like crawls all the way up its own ass at one point to in service of its own references. There is a scene early on in which Parasable grabs Artemis and they go to H's workshop, right? And they're having exposition about the nature of the key and how that works.
Starting point is 01:49:56 And like these are things that are kind of moving the plot along sort of, right? Parasable stops and looks at a lunchbox and says, Hey, have you seen this shit? And opens the lunchbox and we blow about 120 seconds, maybe longer of him literally picking up spaceships out of a box, pointing them at the camera and going, Look, it's the Battlestar Galactica. Remember that, right? And I am not joking. Yeah, because he is talking to a character.
Starting point is 01:50:30 Yeah. And saying, Now, that sounds like the book, right? And it is. That sounds incredibly accurate. It kills the momentum of the scene. But did your favorite things show up? I love the Battlestar Galactica. Yeah. And there's a decent there's a there is a decent Star Wars gag. There in the movie. Yeah, they couldn't actually have stuff in it, I read. But there's like a gag.
Starting point is 01:50:53 There is a decent Star Wars gag where they show Halliday's Funeral and the flowers are arranged in the Star Trek Enterprise. Right. And because he's a huge dork. And you're like, Oh, yeah, OK. That's appropriate. The the the the build up to the climax in the books like involved like everyone getting in their Mecca, right? That was that was like, I can't emphasize how much like the scene just stops.
Starting point is 01:51:17 And it doesn't stop for a second or throw it like Family Guy would, right? It just it fucking would hit the fucking breaks. The chapter stops to tell you about joust and everything you need to know about the classic video game for a book because a book in meander and take its time and then author doesn't care. The movie has a limited run time, a limited run time. Yes. So it stands out really bad. But it but it doesn't but it doesn't like stop the the the page from feeling like
Starting point is 01:51:50 but did you know for sure. But things work better in print. And the problem as well, right? And I think this is something that is a bit unique to, I guess, us. But it's like, we're an audience of people that lives in this shit. We're exposed to it every day. There's no moment of, Hey, do you remember? Of course I do. I talked about it last week, right?
Starting point is 01:52:14 So we're not that. No. And that's that's a really important thing here, right? There's there's so much of this that is really just intended for. Oh, fuck, I remember that. And when you never have that reaction, because every day of your life is exposed to stuff like fails to fail to work, I have been trying explicitly to get away from even talking about that pop culture stuff because there's so much when I was sitting on this game, sorry, when I was fuck, I keep calling it a game.
Starting point is 01:52:48 I literally keep calling it a game. That means it worked. When I was sitting on the movie on on Twitter, it had nothing to do with coming back was like, oh, you're just mad because it's like, no, no, the movie is bad. It has nothing. Yeah. This is like, beside all of it, if this was a fucking if this was last starfighter, yeah, I would have this problem, right? OK, so let's talk about Artemis.
Starting point is 01:53:11 Well, what does Artemis look like in the book? Artemis is she's a cool character avatar. And then it's secretly revealed that in real life, she's not. OK, so that is a story element in which after one day, Parzival's like, I love you. And she and the reaction isn't, whoa, bro, that's creepy. Dude, it's you don't know me. You don't even know what I look like. This is just my avatar goes down like two thirds into the book.
Starting point is 01:53:48 Very quickly. Wow. OK. Yeah, that takes a while. Very quickly to the point where it's like, like, dude, like the character's been in three scenes, literally. Oh, wow, that's weird. And she's like, you don't like you don't love me. This isn't what I really look like. This is my avatar.
Starting point is 01:54:07 So it's setting up like, OK, we're going to. So when Parzival's home gets blown up and his relatives get killed, we don't have time to show him be upset. At no point is he upset. He walks away kind of stunned and then gets kidnapped immediately and meets Artemis for real. Hey, Artemis, hey, it's you. Artemis is played by Olivia Cook. There's a reason I'm bringing this up.
Starting point is 01:54:35 I have pulled up a photo of Olivia Cook for you. Is it? She's very attract. That's a very pretty lady. Sure. So what do they do? They make her dress down in like baggy clothes and they give her a birthmark on her eye kind of kind of looks like a vertical print suco like spot the thought a little bit. OK. It's a light brown birthmark that the avatar character with this big
Starting point is 01:55:00 on his face. That's a little from the middle of the forehead down to the the the bra to the lower brow line. Oh, no. Very light brown. OK. Movies, man. That's Hollywood, though. The camera treats her. Dude, the camera treats her like fucking Quasimodo. It's so weird. It's so weird because it is a very hot, pretty girl.
Starting point is 01:55:25 Well, that's no. So with a slight. Oh, hold on. Let me let me get there. And the scene that plays out is so fucking embarrassing because it is actually they actually do it. It's like one is family just died. Whatever. It doesn't matter. He instead of being sad, he's going to creep on this girl immediately, immediately.
Starting point is 01:55:47 And the response is like just they're going to they're going to frame it. So she's constantly trying to get the hair in front of her in front of her vicious deformity. And he's like, man, I don't even I don't even care. And she's like, don't tell me that I I live with this every day. And like they're playing it like she's got like a fucking burn victim face or some shit. And it's it's legitimately uncomfortable.
Starting point is 01:56:12 Goiter. It's so weird. That's Hollywood. That sounds like Hollywood ugly is now. But that's different. I can't think of like you're saying it like even looks cool. It's I didn't notice it. Because on the very first time that you see it, it's her hair parts and you see it behind her.
Starting point is 01:56:30 I didn't notice it until he then says something about it or she tries to hide it. Like it didn't even register. But you know, that's weird. I've been listening. That seems like something that would be in an 80s movie where someone has a slight deformity or something in the 80s. 80s kids would be like, freak.
Starting point is 01:56:53 So that this is why this is stupid. A, the movie is made in 2018 where like a birthmark could be cool. Nobody cares because it's who cares anymore. Right. And B, it's in the fucking future. 2040, where we should even be more beyond it. Even even at the end of the movie, when they're billion trillionaires, she doesn't decide to get it fixed because they're whatever. But like fucking it's nothing.
Starting point is 01:57:20 You know what I hate the most? Like a trope that's especially in the 90s or like odds is when there's a girl. She's like dark. She's got like dark like bags in her eyes. And she's like kind of morbid. She's like not really into things. And then during the movie, she changes and all the makeup is gone now. She's happy.
Starting point is 01:57:41 She's finally spending time with her like fucking brother or whatever. And the parents are like, I'm glad you got out of that phase that you're. I can glad you're not you anymore or whatever. Like always a phase. Sure. Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's like. And then and then on the like and on the way to school, like like bullies are going freak. Yeah, yeah, I'm fucking it up.
Starting point is 01:58:02 Dark makeup on. It's just a Wednesday. Adams over here. OK, I have found a photo from the movie. Yeah, to show you. This is the Quasimodo freak beast they portray in the movie. Yeah, OK, it looks like she's got a cool. Like I don't paint really like I can or paint.
Starting point is 01:58:25 All I remember is that the impression I got from the books was that it was a way bigger deal in general that her physical appearance was not what. So so like you're right. This hasn't this is like almost outside of the movie itself. This is Hollywood. And it reminds me of like how like Amy Schumer is getting shit over her recent movie with the like the like her self confidence changes. And if you see that, I am not.
Starting point is 01:58:51 Oh, yeah, no, it's a trailer where like she's like, oh, I'm like overweight and like I'm not that attractive or whatever. She bangs her head and she thinks she's the hottest thing ever. So it's like you own it. I'm like, no, you gave a stupid reason. Like she should just come to that conclusion by herself and her own self worth, not so I got knocked in the head. I must be crazy.
Starting point is 01:59:16 It's it's it's a comedy as opposed to a realization. Yeah, but that's the end of the movie. Shallow how? Do you remember that? I don't know. That was fucking magic or some she got cursed by a gypsy or something. It was like fucking magic. And that movie was like 15 years ago. That's Jack Black, right?
Starting point is 01:59:34 Yeah, yeah, yeah. So so that's fucking wild. And like it and like you're sitting there. Like and it's I'm like I'm like not even interacting with the movie. I'm just interacting with like Hollywood in that moment where I'm like, am I fucking nuts? So apparently now I'm going to talk about the fucking reference shit and to close this up.
Starting point is 01:59:57 Apparently there is a real Steven Spielberg quote in which he says, I want people who see this movie, the one they see something they recognize to stand up and clap and say, I know that. Yeah, this is this quote is super old. Hey, man, this is our Black Panther. You know, that's the point. That's the actual. It's two.
Starting point is 02:00:21 Well, you get two. I get two Black Panthers. That's not fair. It's Christmas and my birthday. Um, like the very idea that if I try to walk into Black Panther or a ready player one and then like there's like a fucking metal detector, but it detects your skin just kicks you out is ridiculous to me. But what are all right.
Starting point is 02:00:43 So so here's the problem is that Spielberg, though, like. What was boom blocks in the movie? Did boom block show up? That's the best video game this is the closest someone like Steven Spielberg can get to these reference. Oh, you know what? You know what? Before I get to the references, I actually want to complain about something else
Starting point is 02:01:02 in terms of movie magic. You know what signposting is? Yeah. Chekhov's gun, all that stuff. Sure. To show it in the movie, bring it back a few hours later. So remember my complaints about the structure? Those complaints are magnified tenfold by excessive signposting.
Starting point is 02:01:22 Every single element that will ever come to play in the movie is shown to you thirty five minutes before it shows up in the movie, like in a staggering sequence. Usually in a movie, you have like maybe one of those where it's like, that thing came back all and it solved the problem. You're saying there's like multiple. They go into a goddamn store and look at items and every item they look at has to play a fucking role in the final thing. And it's and it's like you should have some false items that don't come.
Starting point is 02:01:52 So once that isn't the entire but that's like all the inventory they build up over the but like there's one item that they don't get because why would anyone pick an item that kills everyone on the planet? And then the final battle, all the bad guy has. And it's like once that starts to happen and you have any memory at all, you like the game is the fucking shit. The movie has such a predictability problem. If you're actually watching it, like if you're actually engaging with it,
Starting point is 02:02:22 right, where every element has to cut the. Hey, man, that's cool. The iron giant, you're building it. That's rad. Yeah, it's a commission. It's like, of course, that will come in. Like even if even if you even if you did not see the I don't know, I don't know, because there's tons of references all the time. You don't know which ones will show up later, right?
Starting point is 02:02:42 Is there is there big references that if someone goes, oh, yeah. And I'm not talking about references. I'm talking about things that are pointed out as significant in universe. OK, like there's a difference between Goro showing up for a gag. And going, hey, that's that thing that affects our lives over there. Goro can never live. But you know what I mean, right? What Goro could be life affirming.
Starting point is 02:03:06 What was the CG like? It's fine. It's totally fine. There is one problem with the CG in the video game. Does it look like a video game? Or does it look like it looks like a realistic record Ralph? OK, the CG has one problem, and that is because of all the shit they're trying to jam in a frame. It is an explosion of shit.
Starting point is 02:03:30 Like it is impossible to see why any specific times like like me and my friend Dan were watching it and like was that a battle? Toad, I don't know because there's like for one frame, there maybe was a battle toad on screen because it is an explosion. It isn't like the big battle scene. Yeah, unintelligible. There's so much and they're doing zoom ins on specific characters so that you can get it.
Starting point is 02:03:59 But there's so many they want to hit that they're going so fucking fast by the Blu-ray. Well, so the description of that exactly why they did it was pretty much just talking about how everything and everyone's crazy avatars were there. But again, they made special emphasis on the giants and there was Ultraman and Mechagodzilla and fucking I guess that's where like I and giant like so. So because I'm like the same brands could not have been used of note.
Starting point is 02:04:29 Ultraman and Blade Runner were attempted to be acquired as rights for this movie. And the people owning those rights, which I'm going to assume would be Ridley Scott and whoever the fuck owns Ultraman over in Japan were like, no. And they are very replaced. OK, because yeah, the Von Kempt. The machine, the Blade Runner machine, yeah, is a thing that gets that gets referenced in the book. I was told it's not even Mechagodzilla in the movie. It is absolutely mech. It's Mechagodzilla.
Starting point is 02:04:58 Curious. I've been told by someone that has worked for Toho. Yeah, that is not in any established design. No, it's a new design. There you go. Oh, they made one. It is a new design. But a character goes, oh, it's Mechagodzilla. And it's like that's that's then they got the license. Well, let's let's even move beyond that to general problems with these references. And you know, who's the best person to use for the general problem
Starting point is 02:05:24 with these references? It's Iron Giant, a movie that I have not seen for the record. Ah, OK. That explains a lot about you. So apparently Iron Giant is not a gun. Iron Giant is a giant robot and he loves war. OK, so no, whatever. But so here's the thing. Fighting is the best. And a lot of people are getting confused at people's reaction to my reaction to Iron Giant, because I don't have an emotional attachment to Iron Giant, right?
Starting point is 02:05:51 Iron Giant is the perfect example of what's wrong with this movie's references because the problem with Iron Giant is not that he shoots a big gun and gets into a big war scene. It's an avatar. It's not actually the Iron Giant. That that is that is someone using that is totally trivial. It doesn't matter. Yeah. Right. Like that could be anything. And the fact that it's Iron Giant, I even I can even appreciate.
Starting point is 02:06:09 Oh, that's cool. Right. If it was anybody but the pacifist robot, the problem with it is that this is a universe in which we have established that the worst thing that can happen to you in universe is that you zero out, which is you lose all your items. You permanent death, you lose your cash, essentially. You lose up your virtual accruement of items. So when Iron Giant gets into a big fight with Mechagodzilla and loses because of course, he like
Starting point is 02:06:36 the camera tracks the falling Iron Giant. Oh, no. And he crashes into the snow as he comes to rest in front of the camera and his head falls down and the eyes blink out and the camera lingers. And there's like a little sad thing to the music. The person in that robot is fine. There's nothing to be sad about other than the fact that that reminds you of Iron Giant. Yeah, there's no depth.
Starting point is 02:07:07 Superman to that moment at all. You don't know who Iron Giant is. Well, it's extrinsic, is what you're saying. But that's especially stupid because the Iron Giant in this movie shot like Fauna Mechagodzilla. Yeah. So like I'd be sad if it was an Iron Giant that tried to talk to Mechagodzilla and like tried to be friends.
Starting point is 02:07:31 Right. It's a fucking asshole. Iron Giant. You're right. It's like it's it's they are banking on the image of the thing you like, not even the reference or not even the character to remind you of that old thing. And they're using that old feeling instead of making a new feeling here. And that's the problem with the references in this movie. It's not that they're used for their own sake or oh, look, that's Goro Roy. Look, that's a fucking buckaroo bonsai or whatever.
Starting point is 02:08:00 It's they're always used in place of actually putting a story element in there at all. They just use it as a cheat sheet to push your buttons. Right. So then when Iron Giant, of course, gets back up to make a human bridge, right, so that everyone can cross the lava. The stand tall start playing. No, worse. What is the worst reference I could mention now with the robot and the lava?
Starting point is 02:08:30 Anybody? Terminator. So when Iron Giant falls into the lava, the person controlling Iron Giant guess they go, well, might as well. And gives a big thumbs up as they go into the lava, which now kneecaps the earlier scene in which the death of the robot was supposed to be taken seriously. Like, it's it's it's pointless. But it's another and again and again, the fall into the lava.
Starting point is 02:08:59 The camera treats it said it's another reference. See, that's fine to terminate her to when Scorpion does it in Shallow and Monks. It's awesome. But you you Iron Giant isn't determined. Do you like Iron Giant avatar piloting guy? Or do you like Terminator? Why didn't you just become the Terminator? But the whole every time it happens, you're going like,
Starting point is 02:09:23 wait, what are you actually trying to make me feel right now? You're trying to make the he's trying to make you feel. Oh, I see what you did there. So as somebody who gets almost every single reference this movie throws at you with a few exceptions, the first half hour of the movie is physically like cringe. Like it is like I'm like your recoil. I'm laughing because I'm uncomfortable.
Starting point is 02:09:48 Because I feel like I like like I am embarrassed because the people and the way that they talk in this in this film are the people we no longer hang out with from college because they're those people, the ones that can't let it go. And you don't like them. I don't like these characters because I know people like them and I don't like those people, right? It's a very specific thing.
Starting point is 02:10:14 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And after all of that, after all of that. Sorry, you just remember. I just remembered something very important that that we'll talk after. After after all, after all of that, there's one thing the movie does with the reference stuff that is actually like awful, like outside of the film. And that I would say that it poisons pills.
Starting point is 02:10:39 One of the greatest movies ever for a generation of people who don't know that movie because the movie's fucking old. The movie is way older than almost anybody who's seen this movie because of spoiler reasons, because of the way that it's portrayed. OK, the entire second act of the movie takes place inside the Overlook Hotel of the shining. OK, I didn't know that the whole second act. It is the entire they they that's look that's super not.
Starting point is 02:11:07 They they let it was supposed to be something. It would that was what Blade Runner was supposed to be. Yeah, and they couldn't get it. So they went shining. They really would have been more thematic. So they go. What was Paladay's favorite movie of such and such a weekend? It was The Shining.
Starting point is 02:11:22 So we go to a theater and we walk into a admittedly astonishing recreation of the Overlook Hotel from The Shining. At which point they go through almost every single story beat of The Shining as if it was a fucking family guy episode with video game characters and a character in there. Of course, they haven't seen The Shining. So they run up to the elevator and oh, no, I'm being washed away by a tidal wave of blood in a big video game rap scene.
Starting point is 02:11:55 And here's Room 237, where I get attacked by a zombie lady. But then when I get kicked out the door, I'm in the hedge maze and I'm being attacked by a not Jack Nicholson, because they won't show the character's face or even silhouette. OK, and a giant, a hundred foot tall zombie lady with an axe in a big boss fight. And the and then at the end, they just ripped the whole thing in half and have a weird zombie dance sequence.
Starting point is 02:12:27 Over a bit, where they were they trying. They try and combine The Shining with one of the creators older games, which I'm going to assume is supposed to be homage to Maniac Mansion. I don't know. And the whole thing. OK. It's it's so weird and like it's this weird mix of like clear loving respect
Starting point is 02:12:52 because they tried so hard to get so many of these things on point. And tonal explosion in that. Like the the the two little girls down the hallway is played for a goof with a character that never saw The Shining. And I cannot I cannot imagine what somebody who goes to check out The Shining now after seeing this first will feel in that. Like I feel like that movie has been like jacked for a whole audience of people.
Starting point is 02:13:27 And to those who would say, no, that's ridiculous. If I had not put the spoiler warning for the segment of the podcast, you would be mad because I would have influenced your opinion of the movie before going to watch it and I would have screwed that up for you. Chances are the thought process was it's old enough that like meh. You know, yeah, I guess. And the gags don't even land. Like I know the example that people are going to use is the Simpsons did
Starting point is 02:13:52 a Shining episode. The difference is that episode's hilarious. This is not. It's it's lazy. And it's such a thing as they should have used the the Resident Evil Mansion. That would have been fun. That would have been totally, totally appropriate, actually. You would fucking love the movie. Yeah, well, no.
Starting point is 02:14:11 But because that because that that mansion is not to be respected. It's fucking dumb. It's right. It's a dumb video game level, which would be totally appropriate. And like I when I was talking about the movie on Twitter, I'm like, everybody pour one out for I patch Wolf if he ever comes back. Right. And I spoke to him and I think he was wasted when I was talking to him on Twitter because he was mad. So expect the awesome video of the thing I'm saying right now in coming for my patch.
Starting point is 02:14:40 Well, it ultimately, like, like I said, it was it's it's similar to when I finished the book in the sense that it's kind of just I was thinking like, like, it's unclear. It's not. Well, OK, I made the mistake of I felt it was like unclear who was for. Now I know who it's for. And it and like that's a very it's for everyone. It's for my sister that's like five years older than me. But but yes.
Starting point is 02:15:07 But does your sister like I get it. But it's for people that know the things like the things and haven't thought about them. You know, it's for my sister. Yeah, no. OK, you know, it's for Willie. It's for people that heard about the shining, but never actually watched the shining and go, oh, yeah, that's the shining. No, because I think those references would go a bit too far for anyone that's never seen it. It has to be more than that.
Starting point is 02:15:28 You have to have some appreciation and love for a DeLorean and for maybe not Tracer, but you know what I mean? But a oh, man, you get to fucking a fucking Ultraman or a fucking tried real hard tempest, you know, adventure or whatever. Like the movie shows you how much certain companies care about getting their fucking characters in this movie. Fucking Capcom went super hard like all of this all. Riyun Chun-Li are all over the place.
Starting point is 02:15:58 They are the most visible characters in the entire film. Recky Ralph was big for Zanky. Tracer's number two. Like silently buys a ticket. I've got to see. Yeah, no. That and it's the when they go into the fucking item shop, the very first item they walk by is by the ability to do Hadoken. Now, what I want to know is, is does your sister's category of person?
Starting point is 02:16:22 Yes, your demographic, right? Does that like? Is that a large profitable group compared to people that go? Yeah, it's the thing, I know. I like yes, the hardcore is always a smaller niche, for sure. It is the size of 50 million dollars in one weekend. And then half that the next weekend. Yeah, OK, that's the size.
Starting point is 02:16:51 Because, well, you remember when you grew out of video games around 95? No, but that's what my sister did. Yeah, right, exactly. You have to I grew up and did business and did well at school. And so if she sees these references again, she'll be like, oh, yeah. And that's a lot of people compared to the hard to a hardcore niche, right? For sure. But what I what I'm thinking is, is that that giant group of people
Starting point is 02:17:18 probably includes a huge, huge majority that wouldn't even bother, right? To like go or like to read this, you know what I mean? That wouldn't even bother to participate in the thing. So it's kind of like, dude, think think about it this way. Like diminishing returns on your every every lapsed person that you know that used to be way in the comics or used to be way in the games, used to be in the whatever, right? That we know lots of people like that.
Starting point is 02:17:46 I'm trying to I'm trying to put it down to like a specific person. But yeah, and then they go that person, you know, your sister, my brother, my brother, somebody, somebody mentions it to them and they go, Batman's in there. I used to love Batman. Well, I'm going to go see it. And that's that. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:18:06 Just all they need is that one tiny little fringe element. Yeah. One thing I will give the movie credit for like genuine credit. I don't know what the fuck. Who owns Gundam? So Bandai fucking Bandai must have had some goddamn specific conditions. Is it a is it a Barbados Gundam? No, it's the RX 78.
Starting point is 02:18:26 OK, because I was like, going to go, what? And he and it is given the most respect of anything. Like it is lavishly reproduced to the most granular detail possible. Perfect grade to the point of when the the guy turns it on. You get he a fucking UI element comes up and it's the fucking boot screen in reverse that Amaro turns on in the first episode. Like it is it is slavish in its reproduction. It's going to take Lou like seven years to watch this movie.
Starting point is 02:18:56 Right. So like that's the that's the one part of the movie that I went. Not like, oh, I'm glad that's the Gundam. But I went, wow, they really spent a lot of work getting that one right. So you know, it's really weird. I'm not just a Gundam at all, like you guys, but I didn't know a Gundam was in it. I kind of want to see a Gundam now in that movie. Yeah, like that sounds really cool to see that.
Starting point is 02:19:19 Don't worry. In a big nice CG. Don't worry, they fucking kneecap the shit out of it by a character awkwardly screaming, I choose form of Gundam immediately beforehand. Sure. But I expect that type of stuff. So, yeah, the biggest takeaway. This is a very bad movie, but this would be a very bad movie. If all the pop culture stuff and all that controversy and all that nerd rage and all that anger was completely gone.
Starting point is 02:19:43 And it was just a completely original everything because it's boring. It is nothing but exposition. It has an incredibly dull three act predictable structure. So it's and it's it's it's a nothing movie. There's nothing there. There's nothing like to. So the interesting thing about this is that like virtual MMO setup with characters doing similar things in danger in real life.
Starting point is 02:20:07 Without all the references is a book called Snow Crash. OK, it's just the same thing. But well, but it but it this is like one of the first ones is really, really early. And how early we talk a lot. I have to look it up to tell you. But when did Snow Crash come out? Snow Crash. Never heard of it. Our biker mice in the movie.
Starting point is 02:20:32 1992, our biker mice in the movie. Oh, no. Well, fuck it. And anyway, that's how it's are. But about what you think turtles are. I know. Oh, shit. I know the Ninja Turtles. See, now it's now it's too much. Everyone's in it.
Starting point is 02:20:52 Now it's like, wow, you're really selling me on this. Goro fights the Ninja Turtles and fucking. I forgot where I was at that point. I had I had I was going to get I forgot. This is new in the movie. Yes, it is. Wow. Did you clap when you saw it?
Starting point is 02:21:08 Sucks. I will. I had a really good point. And it's gone. No, no. Crash is the same thing, but it takes all the pop culture stuff out was where you were going with this. I can't. No, you're looking at the date on snow. Yeah. And I got it. It was 92 and I can't just sit here and try to remember what it was.
Starting point is 02:21:25 So never mind, but anyway, but yeah, but yeah, it's like that. What? When I wasn't rolling my eyes at characters, and Jason and Punisher and there. Freddie Krueger is. Yeah, I don't really care. And Jason is. Yeah, I care about that. But I knew that someone yelled that. And when I'm not rolling my eyes or like being embarrassed by like
Starting point is 02:21:48 how it's trying to be big, like it feels like big, but when that's not happening, which is my sister loves big band theory. That's what I'm talking about. What if it was called Salty Bet the movie? That'd be different. What if it was called the ultimate battle? Was that Newgrounds bit? The ultimate battle for everything?
Starting point is 02:22:06 Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. But when I'm not sitting there, when I'm not sitting there and rolling my eyes at the pop culture shit just being embarrassing, like for 95 percent of the movie, I'm just bored because the characters are flat and the plot goes nowhere and it's the same shit over. Like like most most of the movie, you could remove all this stuff. And this is like, this is a boring movie. This is just the most boilerplate fucking Hollywood movie.
Starting point is 02:22:35 Just the half the unique stamp on it is video games pop culture. There is one other thing that's super, super fucking weird about that. And in the universe that ready player one takes place in, I'm I'm going to assume that all culture just stopped entirely at 98. Because despite being 40 years in the field, well, I mean, it's it's 2047. So that's 30 years from now. But there is nothing that I saw in that entire fucking movie, except for like Tracer, I think, and the new Ninja Turtle.
Starting point is 02:23:14 I heard battle, battle born people are in there. Oh, yeah, battle born people are in every shot of the film because they thought it was going to be big. But like in terms of the film. Yeah, no, they've been making this for years. There's a apparently a battle born character in every single large group shot in the entire film. OK, but I couldn't recognize every try everybody
Starting point is 02:23:32 that they would actually spend time on or pan by significantly. Like there's nothing after like the year 2000. Like it's like it's like society stopped. Well, in the book, it's kind of more that that stuff's out there. But all the cool kids in the Oasis know that it's only cool if you reference. Is the master chief in there? Yes, Master Chief is in there in a scene that makes so little sense. Yeah, from a master chief would be in there.
Starting point is 02:23:57 So this is in a trailer in the big battle scene. You see people running around on the street and interspersed with shots of their avatars running around in the game. There are five kids running down the street and they're all master chief and they're running down a sidewalk shooting their guns. OK. What is going to happen to them in five seconds after the camera stops looking at them? They're going to run into the street and die.
Starting point is 02:24:26 Like like there is there is there are two parts to that. One is the absolutely hilarious final fight when they cut back to a person driving through the streets and sees everyone invisible kung fu fighting in the fucking streets like assholes, but none of them move because there's too many extras. The only characters that get to move is the the Master Chief kids that get to move in that one shot. Wait, wait, hold on, wait, wait, hold on.
Starting point is 02:24:54 People are in physical locations doing things. Oh, yeah, people are just on the street, one to one moving their character. But real world blind to the real world around you did this in like your house at home. Yeah, most people do. But in the final scene, there are tens of thousands of people in the streets running around in every direction tracking as they play. But they don't see the outside world. So they're just lucky that they're not hitting anyone else or that's not what
Starting point is 02:25:20 no, it's they do in the oasis at all. It's total nonsense. Like you're you're drive there, driving past it and they look out and everyone's like, yeah, oh, in in directions. It's locked into a spot because if they move, every actor will just punch each other in the face. OK, that's that's that's it's absolutely absurd. That's ridiculous.
Starting point is 02:25:40 But my favorite part and a friend of mine pointed out to me this like the creepiness of it, if anything, is supposed to be how they describe the like the are the the giant evil army is just rows and rows of people locked into their fucking and it does have a cool concept with the loyalty center where if you fucking accrue too much debt, the the evil corporation locks you into a fucking booth and basically turns you in a gold farmer, right, which is actually the coolest idea in the whole movie because like people are like dying in like what are essentially
Starting point is 02:26:12 VR slave camps and it's super wild. But there is a scene that sums up the whole movie and it is a scene in which the bad guy is trying to convince Parzival that, man, hey, I'm just like you. And it is a scene in which a 50 year old plus business man has an earpiece in his ear talking to the kids and he has a team of people in his ear telling him what references the kids like and what who who wrote babysitters club. That's meadow.
Starting point is 02:26:47 And. Oh, wow. Yeah, I see. And nah, man, you you just you just you just think I'm a suit and all I want to do is make money. But you don't get it, man. I I love all the same stuff that you do. I love babysitters club and just chilling out and playing joust all night. Ouch.
Starting point is 02:27:10 And it's all it's a whole scene and it's just like a astonishing how tone deaf it is. That's crazy. It's they don't even realize. Yeah. It's it's nuts. Like it might as well just be Spielberg talking to you in the film. It's crazy. So that's my that's that's my review of Ready Player One. It's a bad much still Steven Spielberg loves Overwatch.
Starting point is 02:27:36 Dude, it's like 90 years old. Are you crazy? He's like 70 years old. He's got such a sick Reinhardt dude. He's an amazing like you know what the weirdest thing is. Yeah. Blade Runner got wasn't able to get in, but Alien got in. Yeah, I don't know.
Starting point is 02:27:51 It's is did who's played. But Warner Brothers is I mean Ridley is the director. He doesn't own it. And I thought all the brothers did. And and the alien pops out of Goro, which makes me think that like what? Sorry, what? Yeah. There is a fucking Xenomorph that was in a show con.
Starting point is 02:28:10 Yeah, this is amazing. It makes me think that it has run out and go see this today. Well, it honestly makes me think that it was part of the joint deal between like that. You know, that's all. Oh, I'll shut up. Remember how the alien in MKX was like Baraka? Matt, you know, was informed.
Starting point is 02:28:27 You know, it doesn't matter how much you cross your arms and watch this movie. It's going to get you at some point. It's going to get you. There's mecha Godzilla. I would like to take all my favorite clap. I would like to take a second to address the number one complaint that I saw people leveraging against me the other day. Just Pat, you're you're crazy.
Starting point is 02:28:47 You exaggerate everything. The movie's not that bad. And like, I guess the movie isn't that bad. It's fucking it's gruel. It's like it's it's it's it's movie, right? It's nothing. You started this by saying it's a five on 10. Right. And I am like, there are parts of it
Starting point is 02:29:06 which personally embarrass me, but only in the theater because I'm there. And it's talking. It's fucking Steve Buscemi with the fucking double skateboards. The what I didn't think about until like all of this was how the besides your sister and my brother and so on. Right. Everyone has that kind of fucking my siblings. My siblings are exactly the same. Exactly. Peripheral outside.
Starting point is 02:29:29 Like I remember that. Cool. Yeah. Right. Besides that, the description of like you said, like people from like college and stuff where it's like people that are super into it and are not like they're as up to current and what not. As as I guess as we are and such, but just having a very different kind of attitude towards it where it's just kind of like it never gets tired. It never gets old. It's awesome.
Starting point is 02:29:53 Every time I see it, it's the best. I'm going to wear the T shirt. Does this have a transformer in it? I have to go see it. Right. And and and Funko pops the movie. It is Funko pops. Funko. Yes. Thank you. Thank you. I'm going to wear a T shirt with not Dr. Strange on it,
Starting point is 02:30:10 but the Funko pop of Dr. Strange. Absolutely. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That is exactly what it is. Yes. And and again, yeah, it is not about it is not the typical nerds complaining about shit of I can't believe that the Godzilla was not the way it was in this like who gives a shit like. And in fact, most of those things are are like on point. Surprisingly, even does your sister own a Funko pop?
Starting point is 02:30:40 No. Would she? Princess bride Funko pops, which I believe. I'm sure they do. Yes. If I got her one, she would probably display it. That's it. That dude. That's the fucking Funko. It's fucking Funko pop. The movie and the person who'd buy a Funko pop is the person who loved this movie.
Starting point is 02:31:02 True. That's the exact same audience. It's exactly. It doesn't matter what the quality is. Max loves this movie. It's cheap. And it's there. He has a lot of Funko pops. And it's cheap and it's there. It's the thing that I like. So look at it. Yeah, dude, 100 percent.
Starting point is 02:31:16 You completely you. Matt, that's genius. That is the most accurate thing about all of this. You just think about a wall of Funko pops that are like dominant, like a dominant obelisk of of shadow is displayed on the con floor. Like you look at the wall and you're like, that's the final battle. Because it's not that any of us don't like all of these things or think they're awesome.
Starting point is 02:31:42 Dude, I love crossover. Every one of these little elements is from is from a thing that we're like, fuck, yeah, that's the future. Let's compare. I fucking love joust. Do you know how much I love joust? Let's back it up a bit. Let's all compare how people feel about ready player one versus how people feel about Wreck-it Ralph when it's the same fucking thing.
Starting point is 02:32:01 Right. We didn't have any problem. Yeah. In fact, I got fucking lit my shit when it was fucking Robotnik and Zangy hanging out. Yeah, yeah. That's awesome. Yes. Yes. Right. Yeah. Yeah. It's about the context with within. It's not because Wreck-it Ralph didn't present itself as look at these video game things and clap. You fucking proble diets.
Starting point is 02:32:23 It was. It was. Yeah. Hey, look, here's a Disney movie. And it's it's in a vague video game world. And I think we kind of knew it's like maybe like two or three days before the movie came out. Oh, there's like Capcom characters in there. It's like, is Mario in there? We didn't know. But the movie didn't build itself around the fucking idea.
Starting point is 02:32:45 Nintendo would not touch this. There is there are no Nintendo. There are companies that are very absent. Well, they're also working on their own shit. Yeah, they wouldn't. They wouldn't fucking spread out all the good stuff. Nintendo is like this massive black hole in the movie. Yeah. And like, especially with all the
Starting point is 02:33:04 Capcom characters, are you telling me that no one wants to be fucking Link? No, everyone would be. I would be like, almost is. Yeah, it looks like an elf guy. I am. No, man. It like there is absolutely a funko pop for everything you love, but that doesn't mean that you should love funko pops. Because they're just trying to trick you because it's like there's a difference.
Starting point is 02:33:28 You and if you can't see it, then it absolutely. This movie is the equivalent of Family Guy episode. Go and remember that time we hung out with so and so and thing with the movie. Remember that time we played World of Warcraft and Leroy Jenkins was there. That's funny, right? Well, you mean the South Park version of Family Guy where the manatees hit the button and yes, right. It's yeah, so I literally bought a funko pop over the weekend, too.
Starting point is 02:33:51 Did you? Yeah. Where is it in Wally's house? It's at my house. It's the it's the pixel ones and it's Jason and yes, Jason. It looks fine. I was like, yeah, I owned. I unironically owned two funko pops. It's fucking ready. Player one wants to tell you that the red ones are not pops.
Starting point is 02:34:09 They're just funko presents by the for you and ready. Player one tells you that it's record Ralph, but it's actually pixels. Oh, oh, yeah. All right. Well, welcome back, everybody. That was pretty comprehensive. You skip that shit. OK, the podcast. And I can't believe they killed Mario on that movie.
Starting point is 02:34:32 I can't believe they killed Mario in such a gruesome fashion. They hung him by his entrails. Some would say not gruesome enough. Yeah, he had it coming, though. Yeah, he did. All right, we we are we're running. But it's I have a movie that needs that much explanation of your dislike doesn't come along that often.
Starting point is 02:34:55 OK, and I assume you didn't have much of a week outside. Oh, no. All right, I kind of went. I kind of went and saw the movie, so I'd have something to talk about. You spend most of the week detailing all your thoughts. And and and dressing up about a hundred about a hundred episodes of this podcast to go. Like that started to become a thing. Oh, yeah. Yeah, I was like, I guess I with you as well.
Starting point is 02:35:19 I guess I can do this and talk about it. And then I had to stop doing that because that was just bad. Was it was a week that it's like all literally the only thing of interest this week to you was like I played Street Fighter or something like that. And then you're like it's Sunday and you're like, oh, just fucking shit. Yeah. Yeah. And I just I have to rush out and do drugs. So I have something to talk about.
Starting point is 02:35:45 If I just talk about the same living of my life that I've been enjoying in a way, then then there's nothing wrong with that for me. I jump from super long game to super long game. Like, yeah, I got to have something I had to stop. And I got to start committing crimes or something. Well, or just watch random thing on Netflix or edit. You know, just that's right. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Real people for any player one hadn't been out.
Starting point is 02:36:14 I would have just talked a lot longer about Megalobox. All right, news. Let's let's do it. We got a role because it's getting late. Yeah. All right. So I mean, you know what, you know what, you know what the kids love speaking of things the kids love, man, kids love clapping. That's they love the kids of clapping for the things that that that are fun.
Starting point is 02:36:43 And the kids these days, Funko, they love Battle Royale. They do. Hell, yeah, they don't. They love that Battle Royale. So firmly. Oh, fuck. Firmly planting this genre as the current fad. Well, you know how you can tell it's the current fad, right? If there's at least three of them. No, when the boss key is going to be making a game.
Starting point is 02:37:08 So boss of late to the party. Boss key came out last Friday and announced a while way. Oh, God. Boss key. Yeah. Came out last Friday. They're super late. And announced that I just realized, like, yeah, law breakers. The same mistake again.
Starting point is 02:37:26 Let me get the story. Sorry, law breakers is not doing the numbers they hoped it would. And going free to play would not be profitable for them. So I want to be I want to put an addendum to that. Right. They put out a statement alongside this saying, though, we can't the the player retention and stuff of people inside it for law breakers makes free to play not viable at this time. Yes, which led to this awesome tweet from some guy.
Starting point is 02:37:53 I don't know. I retweeted him just like law breakers failed so hard. It can't even go to free to play. I then said I just linked that article in my discord like hanging out. Some first thing out of someone's mouth. What's law breakers? Yeah, right. What like fuck? So basically they're they announced on Friday that they're sun setting their development. Thank you.
Starting point is 02:38:14 How can you sunset something in which the sun never rose and the new game is a 1980s Battle Royale style game called Radical Heights. Now, hey, kids, do you remember the 80s? Can we can we look at this trailer? Sure can. Radical Heights is. Here's the thing they threw together. Well, because it's doing a lot of 80 versus references, but it's also
Starting point is 02:38:45 the art style is not like different or particularly unique in a way. Let me just get past some of these 80s commercials. Yeah. Yeah, that's straight. The gameplay. The gameplay just looks like like very normal in that way. But it's like the presentation of the like the things that like the HUD, I guess the items and such are all like very 80s theme. So I want to point something out.
Starting point is 02:39:06 When I was talking to people about law breakers, I said law breakers is a game that taught me something about myself and about you guys and about anybody who has been following this industry for long enough. And that is the ability not to see if a game is a success. But to be able to look at a game and immediately go, that's dead. This game is giving me the exact same feeling. This looks so much like Fortnite. Visually, I was going to say, Wally, can you please press the right trailer
Starting point is 02:39:40 and not a DLC pack for a Saints Row game that I don't understand how this is supposed to actually compete with those games? Because it has a bike trick that you can do. You can ride your bike. Shit. It's too late. It was too late six months ago. But it's but it's me on angry that epic is like flourishing without him. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 02:40:05 But it's those but it's full of neon colors and 80s music. It doesn't even look like what I thought it would be a game showy type of thing. I thought it would look like a sunset overdrive. You think that's the thing, right? See, so sunset overdrive is the version of this where the entire game's art style is is dripping with the art. This looks like a PUBG map. It's dripping with the theme that you've picked.
Starting point is 02:40:30 And here they're dropping like textures on a generic looking thing. Honestly, the weirdest part is that it actually looks like the the halfway point between Fortnite and PUBG in terms of art style. Like Matt's right. Like on the long shots where you get to see a lot of the map, it looks like the PUBG map. But on the close shots where you see the characters, they look like fucking Fortnite characters.
Starting point is 02:40:52 This is like the most clonish thing I've seen is going to fail since I was looking at Chinese websites the other day. Smash cut to this being the biggest, most popular thing in like no coming out in another couple months in a year. This game is coming out in about a year in early access, and it is going to be free to play. Radical Heights, of course, it is free to play. Well, they they might.
Starting point is 02:41:15 Yeah, you've got to make that free to play now. So so yes, that are that are that on arrival is absolutely. Dead on announcement, man, like like the the weirdness is why would they do this again? OK, so let me let me unless you don't like unless your entire thing is I see the current big thing and I feel like I can do it better. OK, so if that's what Clippy B is doing, I want I want you everybody at home. There's a there's a fucking crow cat video about law breakers called law breakers in a diluted sea of yeah, whatever.
Starting point is 02:41:54 It's a great video at the very end. There is a interview with Clippy B in which he just where he talks candidly about law breakers in a way that makes this game's announcement even more shocking to me. Yeah, this is this. I know exactly a quote. It's like the one thing the one nugget of wisdom. Clippy B said it's totally true. He's completely right.
Starting point is 02:42:15 He talks about how when you talk about these big fucking super games. Yeah, like Overwatch and stuff like that. There's really only room in the market for like three of them tops. So, you know, top. So there's like Overwatch and CS go and like this is about an EA has a battlefield and like Call Activision has Call of Duty. So we're hoping with law breakers, we can be like the third or fourth guy in that pile. You know, let Overwatch be its own big thing.
Starting point is 02:42:48 But, you know, we'll let us have our own success. And it's like in his mind, he's completely right. For MMOs, for the shoot for lifestyle shooters, for loot games, for all these types of games, open world shooters. Yes, Destiny, Borderlands, Warframe. Oh, is that what that is? Well, your lifestyle game is the game that you play for years. OK, right. OK, like it's your job.
Starting point is 02:43:11 It's your job, Willie. And that's a new term to be. It's it's it's the game. It's the game that people go, that's my game. You know, that kind of thing. Like they would do for fighters or they would do for shooters or they do with PUBG or they do, you know, all this kind of thing. There's room for three, maybe four tops, right?
Starting point is 02:43:27 Well, look at this shit. You're a year from now. You think you're going to be number three in the world, Cliffy? PUBG and Fortnite have that shit on lock. Fortnight is going to be number one for a long time. Fucking Red Dead might have that. PUBG is not going anywhere. Red Dead's going to come out and that has it.
Starting point is 02:43:45 That has, but yeah. Fucking Paladins, which is a massive success in its own right, is racing to get a fucking battle royale mode out as soon as it can. And those are games that are already successful now. It comes out tomorrow. Wait, I thought you said it comes out in a year. You say it says at the bottom that it's going to be it'll be it'll be out of early access after a year.
Starting point is 02:44:09 OK, but it will be available tomorrow. The Steam page says early access game available tomorrow. All right. So they have a sliver of a chance. So this game has to be the third best battle royale game and explode by the 11th to survive. It sure seems like they slapped this together real, real fast after it was like, yep, this is unsolvable. It sure does.
Starting point is 02:44:39 Well, yeah, they definitely doesn't have as much of a much of a budget as as. No, I'm not saying it needs to be just like it. If you what will people I've seen a lot of comments talking about the way like the guns look and how they seem to feel, I guess. And why is it like this realistic, deadly looking fucking military gun? It's a bunch of 80s fucking idiots around because the core shoot bangs probably still has to be like that. That's why I mean like Sunset Overdrive has at least crazy wacky weapons.
Starting point is 02:45:12 Oh, hey, yeah, you'd think they'd go all the way, but it seems like they didn't want to at least they're getting it out as fast as possible. I guess so. By far their best bet. This shit's still dead. Dead as fuck. Because even if this has moderate success, I see Paladins alone, just or Red Dead, one of those two just coming along and taking somebody's spot.
Starting point is 02:45:34 Well, here's one that it moves down. Well, here's the thing. It being free means it's going to die a lot slower than if it were not. You're right. You're completely right. Guess is like this is going to hang out for a minute, anything that's free hangs out for a minute. You're right.
Starting point is 02:45:50 But this looks like what we were afraid of other free games being. This we're looking at this the way we thought we were looking at Warframe a little bit. All right. Well, anyway, so Cliffy, round two of you making another billion dollar IP, right? That's my favorite quote. He came out of retirement. Say, you know what? You know, I said to myself, I want to make billion dollar IP again.
Starting point is 02:46:17 Lawbreakers. Spyro's back. Yay, the rumors are true. Shocker. Spyro reignited the trilogy is coming to PS4. This is a sequel to Skylanders. Yeah. No, it's that you know, the real that what they should have marketed this as Skylanders
Starting point is 02:46:34 origins Spyro. I think we made that joke like, like upon Skylanders becoming a thing, I think we actually made that joke like last week. I will say, someone made it to me like that's good. The visuals are like amazing. It looks gorgeous. Oh, yeah, it looks incredible. Like compared to like the original.
Starting point is 02:46:52 No, but I mean, just in general, like the animation is super, super high quality. Well, because it's like what if Spyro became a fucking Pixar movie? Yeah, it's like it looks incredible. It reminds me of like a Ratchet and Clank game kind of thing, like the way they got the run. That's fun. Yeah. So play that. Everyone's everyone.
Starting point is 02:47:07 I've never played a Spyro game. So it's just the same here. I played I played the first one for no, no, no, no. I played the the demo disc of the first one. And I remember that like, like, like groovy little run thing. And then I played the crazy ass character action game that Liam told me about because there's a character action Spyro game. Second one, a bunch of friends.
Starting point is 02:47:27 You know what? Come to think of it, fucking Battleborn went free to play, right? Yeah. And that's still died super, super hard. Dead. But was that because it was dying first? Well, let's see how long it takes for Cliffy B to advertise the hentai pictures of his characters for this game.
Starting point is 02:47:45 Oh, man. Or wait, you can't because they're not really characters. They're just like, you'll manage avatars. That's stupid. Uh, OK, that's pathetic. It's like it literally looks like, oh, we had this engine or whatever. We had like this fucking these game tools set up that we can make about a royal game.
Starting point is 02:48:09 Oh, shit, it doesn't stand out. And we have generic weapons and a generic map. Put radical on the side of the fucking. Now spray paint the word radical onto the box. That's that's that's. Oh, God, make the thing quick. That's my boss will kill me. That's fucking good.
Starting point is 02:48:32 It's cool. See. Well, yeah, OK, you know, whatever the story. Yeah, fuck it. Lotir God is on a reality TV show because the league needed more more canary to be kicked off the show. Great. Who?
Starting point is 02:48:46 Prime. Hey, but the other people on that show are great. Got a need of villain. Yeah. And Guilty and Sherry can like team up. And and the producers of that show, if you ask them, hey, are you aware that Lotir God is like a fucking asshole and an animal abuser?
Starting point is 02:49:03 They'll probably go, what? No. And then you find the internal documents was like, we need to find a fucking scumbag to be on this show for the drama. I am. Get that ass on reality TV. The the the speaking of fighting games,
Starting point is 02:49:26 though, also angry Joe's Kickstarter game, board game, totally fucking blew it up. Shocker, angry Joe's a popular guy. That thing is doing gangbusters. So that's good. Good for you. Congrats. Still weird that Capcom just didn't make this. It is kind of weird.
Starting point is 02:49:43 Because they can make a man board game. What about it? It was also a Kickstarter thing. It's still weird that Capcom just can't, I don't know, make merch of its popular characters. It's odd. And they need Kickstarter. Don't worry, get Monster Hunter Save.
Starting point is 02:49:58 Do people like Mega Man? We're not sure, frankly, we don't want to know. It's a market we could do without. Iron Harvest, however, is another successful Kickstarter that's going on. I like that name. This, if you haven't seen it, is a really cool RTS that was basically made from these people
Starting point is 02:50:18 inspired by this one paint. Well, there's this one giant mecha over like farmers. Right. So these are paintings by this person who this artist they found that are like all people with mechas in like the early ass, like World War One days, kind of 20s, exactly 1920 plus is what they're calling it. And the game is basically inspired by that.
Starting point is 02:50:44 And it's a wild time here to put robots in. Let me, this is not showing you. That looks like Company Heroes. They're all clanky, clanky type. Yeah, I wanted that. This is not doing a good job showing you guys what I'm talking about. So let me find out.
Starting point is 02:50:58 I don't know. I think I was getting it. I guess not. Yeah, I guess I wasn't getting it. No, because if there's more art like what you just described, there's that shot. But then there's this other cool shot. The first one was good enough.
Starting point is 02:51:11 Sure. And then there's this third one. That awesome one. And there's a wolf there. You didn't want to see that wolf. I see that wolf now. So there's some and there's some more shots with the mechas and there's a busted one.
Starting point is 02:51:22 Blew the fuck over at school. Good for that. Yeah, so Iron Harvest looks like a really cool RTS where you've got like Cavalry running alongside like shit robots. Shit bots. That's pretty cool. So if you're into that, check it out. I'm interested to see how different it is
Starting point is 02:51:37 from something like Company of Heroes, because those robots are just functionally tanks. Yeah, I love everything about this this style and design and idea. I'm awful at RTS games. And I probably probably just watch one of you guys play it, because I can't. I really like RTS, but I'm really bad at it.
Starting point is 02:51:59 Really bad at it. Really bad at zipping around the screen and controlling all these units at the same time. My skill set does not let it sit down. I think we're all around the same thing. It's like, man, I sure played Starcraft a bunch. You're sure bad at it. Yeah, well, you stop.
Starting point is 02:52:13 No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. You played Starcraft or Age of Empires or Command and Conquer. Right. And it was fine when you were playing it alone at home. Thinking you were doing the thing. And then you find out how you're supposed to play it with your hand on the keyboard and your APM, and then you go, fuck this. I like that.
Starting point is 02:52:32 Can I put in the code that gives me all the fucking resources so I can just build a billion tanks? You thought you were playing fucking Basement King? Yes, yeah. And then Warcraft 3, though, that for me was not even. I didn't even have to see anybody like beasting on that. I just couldn't do it on my own. Warcraft 3 is a fucking great.
Starting point is 02:52:54 I wish I could handle it. King, I couldn't even be mine. It was like the upper floor King, because that's where the computer was. I wish I had a cool base. Let me ask you, Billy, why couldn't you handle it? But Warcraft 3 in particular is because it needed me to do too many things at the same time. So I needed to manage a hero.
Starting point is 02:53:11 There was it was it was enough to do for me to in an RTS to deal with base expansion, resource building and attacking at the same time. And then and then that's usually enough in any other game. And then and then Warcraft 3 asked me to take control of your heroes and manage them on a micro level where you're treating that as if you're playing Diablo at the same time. Congrats, Willie.
Starting point is 02:53:33 You just did step one of the creation of the MOBA. Yes, because step two is why don't we take all that shit out that sucks and just keep it at the hero, just keep the hero. Yeah, yeah. Oh, guess what? I guess that's really popular. Yes, I realize that you create. Everyone created my thought. My thought process was this is fucking overwhelming.
Starting point is 02:53:53 Yeah. And I can't handle it. I mean, say Warcraft 3 is a great fucking game. Yeah, they're patching it to be modern. You know, yeah, not remastering it because it's 3D. If there was if I think I can I can absolutely handle it if it's a small map, I think. But the scrolling around a giant one. And I kind of felt a single worker at three.
Starting point is 02:54:12 It was like a lot of like like linear. Just go over here, rescue that thing, go over there. It's about a third of the war. Sorry, Starcraft's maps were a bit more like Starcraft's maps. Generally had Starcraft one has a really fucking great campaign. Those are great games. Um, so for reasons I don't fucking understand. And I hope you can allow you can enlighten me.
Starting point is 02:54:37 Is the story that you put out? What is going on? All right. So we didn't even hear about this. And so we we begged them to put it on the podcast because so I want to talk about it again, but I'll talk about it. Yeah, you're going to talk. Shadow of war is dropping loot boxes out of the game.
Starting point is 02:54:52 As in May, May, and I like for the record, if you're just scrolling through old podcasts, right? Shadow of war came out the past winter. And May 8th is one month from now. And so like all I like is it six? Is it a half year later? It is in October, didn't it? November, December, January, February, March, April, May.
Starting point is 02:55:17 Yeah, OK, that is a half year later. All right. So what so when Matt and I were talking about this the other day on Tuesday, I think it was, I think so. We went, oh, how generous of them. Man, who says there's no more heroes now that they made all their dirty loot box money and they want to get the good publicity for backing down on the loot box craze so that they can get the fucking game of the year edition sales
Starting point is 02:55:46 on the fucking summer steam sale. Um, this this is so ridiculous. Well, why this is more ridiculous, even on the Star Wars thing is because at least in the Star Wars shit where they apologize and said, sorry, we all fucked you and whatever. They were like, yeah, we need feedback and like, yeah, people don't like that. So that's all they really said. But in this they're like in this press release, they go,
Starting point is 02:56:14 yeah, this destroyed everything about the narrative, the immersion, the whole point of the nemesis system, the graphics and ruin everything. And we somehow didn't see that coming. So the way that it's worded is super condescending and it treats you like you're an idiot. It's like, you know, we've internally realized that we thought we were giving players more choices, but we what we actually did was undermine the nemesis system that we worked so hard to create for you.
Starting point is 02:56:46 You know, it makes it special getting an orc that you never seen before that's exclusive to you. But you know, it's less special just going and buying. They actually describe the whole like they describe that the loot boxes fucked the game up in a way that makes it it's going to make it really awkward for the next PR guy to explain why they put them back in on the next game. Because like, well, that's like, like the first thought, right, is that one, how genius of a move is it to basically have a preplanned marketing face turn?
Starting point is 02:57:19 It's super genius. I'm not going to lie down the line. You can have to do this first. You can get a pop for free. I don't think it was preplanned, but I think it was like, OK, let's say this turns on real bad. They had a scenario. Yeah, all you have to do. All you have to do is just take the handshake when the face offers it.
Starting point is 02:57:40 And now you're a face. So the whole shit that at the last second. My first and second thought is that all what it doesn't matter what description you put here to describe to explain this, you obviously just couldn't get you. Blah, what am I trying to say? The marketing team has more power than you do. And that's the only reason why that you were beholden to them.
Starting point is 02:58:09 So now you're just pointing out the thoughts that were always there that they wouldn't like. So everyone told you that don't don't act like six months after the game's release, which is a year after people started complaining. Yes, that. Oh, wow. You know, we just read what, you know what? We heard you loud and clear. Fuck off.
Starting point is 02:58:30 This is the second thing. You let us here. You you reached out and you told us what you wanted. Because this is the first instance of them backing down is when they stop selling that digital corpse, that dead guy. Oh, yeah. Remember? Yeah, I remember. I remember the loot, loot corpse.
Starting point is 02:58:52 So Jim's Jim's new gym acquisition is about this. And he basically describes that what appears to be happening is that EA salted the well for everybody. So bad. Yeah. That the the practice has become untenable immediately. Like nobody like nobody expected it to get this bad this fast. But I don't think that's true because I think that they'll still be able to make money in general to people that don't care about like game news.
Starting point is 02:59:22 Well, they're they're backtracking to the old stuff, which is just buy dumb shit or expansion passes or whatever. It's always it's enough to see to make them back down. Yeah, but it's always like a thing where remember what we talked about where it's like your dissatisfaction is calculated. But yeah, well, this one wasn't not this fast. Anyway, if it was calculated, EA wouldn't have fucking lost all that money in their shares. Well, the fact.
Starting point is 02:59:51 No, it was it's the escalation to the level that Disney is calling to say. And you get gambling out of our fucking game. It's also the escalation to countries and states going. We think we might have to make new laws exactly. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. No, that no one saw that call coming down from Disney is a whole of the thing when legal issues like bars and stuff around the areas where GDC is held. Probably really interesting. Oh, I fucking bet EA guys and they're talking to Ubisoft guys
Starting point is 03:00:22 and work with us on the guy's like, well, you win. Some of you lose some right boys, I guess. And they're like, no, you know, and they're like, you lose 100% of the shots. You don't take it was a good run. It wasn't. You know what? I would love to see. We barely got a run. You know what? I would love to see. I would love to see some marketing guy over at WB's conversation
Starting point is 03:00:43 with someone at EA. Yeah, it's like you literally ruined this for all of us. You fucked it up so bad. Then God that we can't do this bullshit anymore. We could have had people worshiping us because it seems to be a more or less unilateral back down from everybody from Ubisoft to EA to fucking WB is going to get a little bit more creative with it. Like having prior tears. Sure. That's all. But it's got ran back super hard.
Starting point is 03:01:13 Yeah, that was degrees of obfuscation from the from the money. That's all you really need. Hilarious. Oh, I wasn't actually clicking on that one. But you accidentally got it. Well, I was I didn't send this to you because I was like, that's fine. Yeah, no, no, no, I was I was clicking. I wanted to tell the story about
Starting point is 03:01:33 what loot boxes Hitman is now being published by the box. Kings. Loot Kings. Consolidate Kings. I.O. still owns Hitman, however, following this. Publish it. So they'll need the guiding hand of Warner Brothers has picked it up.
Starting point is 03:01:58 I don't care like this hitman game. I know there are some missions that came out that are really good. Some people are like, this is really good. Stop it with Hitman now. We're good. We had a bunch of games. Let it rest for a bit. No. Freedom fighters. They don't care.
Starting point is 03:02:15 I just kind of think that, like. They they had a good, solid, like six years of putting these games of absolution in this one. Can we not freedom fighters have something to play? Freedom fighters, Wolves. No, it's fucking amazing. Is it? Yeah, it's it's amazing. I'd even prefer like a weird Canaan Lynch thing again, just to see it.
Starting point is 03:02:37 OK, so I was there. You're there some time ago. And I'm I want to because I legit want to know what else they would do. For example, Hitman, Hitman, Freedom Fighters, Hitman, Hitman, Canaan Lynch, Mini Ninjas, Canaan Lynch, Hitman, Hitman. Yeah, I mean, I tested Mini Ninjas. It's fun. I mean, according to like history,
Starting point is 03:02:59 they're due for a third thing before they go back to do hitman games right now. You know what? You're right. Because they always do Hitman, Hitman, Thing, Hitman, Hitman, Thing, Thing, Hitman, Hitman. So then a theory thing should come right now. Yes, Hitman. Oh, well, it's going to be Hitman, but still fucking have the balls and call it Hitman to do it.
Starting point is 03:03:20 Yeah, loud assassin. Dude, it makes money like people. There's there's I don't think absolutely made money. Well, that's why the hitman franchise makes more money than the other things they do. Oh, yeah, because they don't the other things are failures. Yeah, Freedom Fighters ends on a fucking cliffhanger. Yeah, it's true.
Starting point is 03:03:36 The game came out in two thousand three. Like I like him in, but I don't know. It's just you like Spider-Man. No, no. So I I was really sad to see Spider-Man wasn't at PAX East. I guess it's not the type of game. There was no God of War, either.
Starting point is 03:03:51 September 7th, by the way. I know, September 7th. You know, this this I'm just saying. No, no, no. The date is just announced this week. Yeah, September 7th is one of the fun stuff. What's the final title of the game, Matt? It's Spider-Man.
Starting point is 03:04:05 I kind of Marvel's Spider-Man. I wish there was a subtitle. It's Marvel's Spider-Man. I know, but no one will call it that. They'll call it Spider-Man 2018 or Spider-Man. Spider-Man 20 get this spider off me. Featuring Shocker. And they're better be an achievement.
Starting point is 03:04:23 They're better be an achievement that says I'll follow you to the end of the earth. Is have we done all the names? Or is it just just to have a subtitle? Yeah. Yeah. The Batman gives a subtitle. This obviously should have been called the Spider-Man. Well, that would have been fine.
Starting point is 03:04:41 It would. It would have. Yeah, there you go. What they there's a lot of there's a huge like list of features in this thing now that just really that just came out with this. They put out a feature with Game Informer where they showed off every single detail about how the swinging works and they got it right.
Starting point is 03:04:56 So fucking good game. But like, yeah, there's a photo mode. You can play as Mary Jane, which sounds really cool. OK. What was the other thing there? There's you ride the subway. Yeah, like fast travel. It's going to be awesome. It's going to be Spider-Man.
Starting point is 03:05:14 You'll never escape me. Oh, that's a blade blade sounded like that in the car. No, that's that's that's shocker. Oh, OK. I'll try to get to the end of the earth. You never it runs up 30 frames per second. And I'm like, of course it will. How will the fuck would an open world thing like that run at 60?
Starting point is 03:05:36 I don't think it could. Probably not. No. So I saw some people like complaining about it. Oh, you say it better be a lock 30, though. Yeah, better. OK, I don't even care about the rest. Or else you'll do nothing. Yeah. OK. Other announcements. Boot.
Starting point is 03:05:54 And I got to say this one turned me a little bit on to this thing that I was really skeptical about. All right. The new trailer for Vampire from Don't Nod. Yeah, yeah, looks pretty dope. OK, who's Don't Nod again? Don't Nod is. Remember me. Life is strange. OK. OK. Isn't that Vampire? Life is strange. Vampire. Vampire. Vampire. Yeah.
Starting point is 03:06:15 But yeah, remember me. I don't know if it's a hard wire or not. Could be. Vampires, huh? This has been in development for a long time. They keep pushing the release date like months and months. But it seems like it's finally coming out. And it's still unclear whether or not the gameplay is going to be closer to Life is Strange
Starting point is 03:06:33 or remember me or, you know, because there's actiony bits. But you don't have a lot of story. There's a lot of story bits. And this trailer does a pretty good job showing you like I'm down for being a vampire in an adventure game. That sounds pretty interesting. Yeah, man. Bites and shit. And it helps greatly that there's a really good cover
Starting point is 03:06:57 of Don't Fear the Reaper in the trailer. That's like which we will which we will not play. No, no, but it's it's the game version. So you're you're OK. But it's OK. And it's it's trailer, dude. It's not we won't play it. Anyway, no matter how much you beg, I have to say, like, OK, don't nod, like taking giant steps up the stairs.
Starting point is 03:07:24 If this game turns out to be as good as the trailer. Yeah, because they've been working on this kind of exclusively since another company did the Life is Strange prequel games. Yeah, they've been like on this for a while. Could be interesting, could be interesting. So this is Slater for June 5th. And yeah, Focus is a weird publisher that puts out weird European shit.
Starting point is 03:07:47 Like sticks, the weird goblin game stuff like that. The weird goblin games here. That's fucking nice. Like, I don't know what to call it. No, it's like often game for Europe. Oh, yeah, I hope it doesn't suck. I mean, what's this? What's this?
Starting point is 03:08:08 What's this about Puzzle Friday the 13th? What? Yeah. What's this? So this is this is a Friday the 13th puzzle game. That's pretty fun. It's maybe the makers of a game called Slayaway Camp, which is very similar to Friday the 13th game. And you control Jason, you try to kill everyone in the map. If and I know there's some people out there.
Starting point is 03:08:29 If you would like to kill me, I'm going to be in this game as a playable VIP kill. They're going to be a couple of them. I'm just going to be a counselor. I'm somewhere in the game there and there's a couple of other VIP people. I didn't even know about this until a few days ago. The developers contacted me.
Starting point is 03:08:48 I love you stole your image. Well, no, I signed off on it once they told me. Oh, yeah. That's pretty cool. If you want to kill me, I look like me in it. But then I played there. There are other games, Slayaway Camp, and it's it's actually a legit way to set that puzzle thing.
Starting point is 03:09:04 We're accidentally through the dog end of the. No, that that was accidentally that was. Cabin Lakeview Cabin Collection. This this the Slayaway Camp is like a 3D overhead. Oh, isometric thing and Jason zips around the map. Then there's certain obstacles again as way and he has to figure out a way to kill everyone on the map. Basically, and every time he grabs someone,
Starting point is 03:09:26 there's a big elaborate kill animation. So I'm going to be somewhere in there. I thought that was funny. So you can live out your fantasies. Oh, yeah. Well, let's take some people. Let's take some emails. Yeah.
Starting point is 03:09:44 You want to send an email to superbestfriendcastgmail.com. That's super best friendcast gmail.com. You should reference all the emails so people clap. I can go. I can go to a really old one. OK, no, I'm going to shit. How old do you want to go here? Three years old.
Starting point is 03:10:04 Can you even do that? Yeah, I sure can. I immediately regret my decisions. All right. Did Braun Strowman pick up a child and beat a team with them? Yes, the kid is also a taxi. I'm seeing pictures and it's weird. A child is a tank to a champion.
Starting point is 03:10:27 Is wrestling good again? No, halfway, half good. Still just going to watch a mania. Then that's a solution that works for Pat. I picked a really long one. Sorry. Why? Why, man? Like just picks. He just clicked on a random one.
Starting point is 03:10:45 Just pick one of the shitty ones. Just. Oh, the problem is going back far enough. There's a lot that are just not actually with questions. They're just oh, they're just letters. Oh, OK, well, it is called letter to pornography. All right, let's try this again. Well, we just read the ones front.
Starting point is 03:11:15 OK, scrolled to down during my time as a filthy nine year old. Rodney says in school, someone stole my special edition. I'll buy no back again, figurine. Back again. I had planned to show it off to my classmates, but I dropped it in the school bus and I couldn't find it. Two minutes later, my known rival and enemy, Dylan, started showing a bitch. The exact same toy that I had lost a few minutes ago
Starting point is 03:11:42 to catch the story short. The administrators jail now let him keep my toy. What? Have you ever had someone blatantly steal from you and get away with it? I don't think Willie has had that get away with that. What's your answer? Get away with it like officially or get away with it for real.
Starting point is 03:11:59 This fucking kid, Dylan, just picked a toy up off the ground and started showing it off as if it was his own thing and he got to keep it. So that's getting away with it. Not if you break it. OK, well, he got away with it. So has that ever happened to you? No, because I would destroy it or or I would I would see.
Starting point is 03:12:21 Here's the great thing about being a little kid, like a really small child in elementary school or whatever, which is basically what the kind of places to take place in. Teachers won't believe the kid if they're like, Patrick punched me in the face because they're like, but Patrick's so small. Why would he start a fight with you? You're much bigger than him.
Starting point is 03:12:40 And I'd be like, I would never that would be a horrible thing to do. And then I would punch him in the fucking face. OK, yeah, I know. Never happened to me. 2011, Willie took my golden Wiimote that came with Skyward Sword because he wanted to finish Skyward Sword and I never got it back. I don't know where it is. I assume you still have it.
Starting point is 03:13:04 I showed everybody how cool it was. All right, that's fine, because Liam brought it over his Skyward Sword. Wiimote for a thing. And I was like, man, I wish I had mine back. And he's like, what's the problem? What happened to it? It's like, will he knock me down and took it?
Starting point is 03:13:23 It's a bit of a Wiimotion plus built in. Yeah. Yeah. Now, I didn't have anything worse dealing really like I didn't have like I didn't bring toys to school or one time boy shit. One time I brought my purple Gameboy to school and then I went home with it. Cool. That's a nice story.
Starting point is 03:13:42 What a what a amazing heartwarming tale. If somebody steals from you, you have free past morally to break one thing of theirs. Who stole that DS from you? Some asshole pickpocket. OK, I just wanted to bring it up again. Scott fucking stolen right out of my pocket when I was like three and a half cases in the ace attorney one
Starting point is 03:14:03 had to replay through the whole fucking game again. Jose says, hey, Scrubblers, I was listening to the podcast a few weeks ago and got to the part when you mentioned mispronouncing last names and it got me thinking about mispronouncing several names in general. Her starters, my girlfriend. OK, well, I'm not going to say her name. Maybe it's but he mispronounced the name of his girlfriend.
Starting point is 03:14:26 I remembered as a kid reading up on Warhammer lore and collecting figurines. And I always thought the evil Ratman, the Skaven, were pronounced sky then. That's that's an alternate pronounce. Only to then litter, it's actually pronounced Skaven, which then which threw me off completely and it bugged me to this day. The question is, what was your worst experience of pronouncing something differently to how it actually is supposed to be said? And how and has that affected your enjoyment of it?
Starting point is 03:14:53 Yeah, I had a friend of mine in the high school that absolutely adamantly refused. Any argument that the FF seven characters name is Tiffa. Right. And Eric. No, just if everyone else, everything else was on point. Yeah, Tiffa. Obviously, the mistake of like you stupid asshole thinking French things should pre-pronounce the French way is is my my mortal character.
Starting point is 03:15:20 What about Gatsu fucking, you know? Gats, G A T Z. Then there's G A double T S and both were war crimes. Mm hmm. Oh, the only finish this finished a soul for blank. Mortal Kombat blank monks for me. Gasquag. What? No. Shalowen. Shalowen.
Starting point is 03:15:50 I have now curved that particular flaw. I think I said Shalowen to someone correctly over the weekend. So but yeah, Shalowen was mine for the longest time. And of course, I still mispronounce words to this day. So I mispronounce shit constantly. I can't think of anything specific. Yakuza, Yakuza. Oh, that's no same word.
Starting point is 03:16:09 Yeah, I don't count that. Yeah. Well, say that to people that get on my case about Akatsuki and Akatsuki. Those people are assholes. Well, there is a lot of them. And, you know, and like, yeah. And I the the the the fact that like gasquag is still the still it's not peak meme status, but it still exists is always fought for pretty hard.
Starting point is 03:16:33 Because it's not crazy. What a hell. Because it's such a legit thing. If you speak French, it's so nuts. It's it's it's not knowing a language makes you not know. I don't know, man. I speak French and I didn't think of that in a second. And also, you hear the character later in the game. Say the thing. Yeah. But I even before that and you heard the third people say the thing.
Starting point is 03:16:56 You heard names of like when the character was first shown in a trailer, my brain didn't go. Father Gasquai, it went fast. Father Gasquai, because that is a name that does exist. It is. And I know people with French names that are similar. So I thought it was pronounced like the people that live around me in the real world, you know, but it's it's so I'll fight that till I die, because it's not. Wait, why are you still fighting it?
Starting point is 03:17:18 You're super wrong. No, no, no, no, no, not that it's right. Oh, you weren't crazy. That I'm not crazy to think that think that it might be pronounced that way. It's a silly mistake, but you weren't nuts to make it. That's all I know. My my level of like it's not about for me. So it's never about right or wrong.
Starting point is 03:17:34 It's like, well, no, am I coming from a sane place or am I just fucking? What? And it's not that. All right. One step closer to my world. Exactly. How does it feel? So that's what I mean is I like I will double down on on the reasons. Forever. How does it feel that your primary concern is not sounding nuts? It sucks, doesn't it?
Starting point is 03:18:06 All right. Dear SBFC, that's us. I was wondering, do you offer help to your friend who's struggling at a game when you're sitting next to them? Or do you watch it unfold? Do you give them help? Tints, tell them what to do, ask to take the controller and so on. I did an entire four days. Joseph, I feel like there's a there's a really specific point for all of those.
Starting point is 03:18:30 And it's the point where frustration starts to set in with your friend. Right. Yeah. If they're if they're not frustrated at all and they're like, ah, oh, having fun doing video game noises that people don't do. That's fine. But if the person next to you is like, fuck. You probably say so. Or if the person just asks aloud, yeah, why is this happening?
Starting point is 03:18:53 So I go. But our perceptions are warped on this because of the LP stuff. It is exactly. Now, my girl's playing has just started playing P five. Yeah, right. And first RPG. Oh, so things that you take for granted. Many things, mechanics that go unexplained
Starting point is 03:19:13 in details that you otherwise would not show her conventions exactly have to be like pause. What is this? Right. What is that? And so you're getting your own little monster hunter experience over there. And it's interesting because ultimately I generally picked it based on something where like like she gets really like like a panicky when like like timing and action is involved.
Starting point is 03:19:38 Yeah. And things that are like turn based or like puzzle based or like suit are fine. And we're a lot more relaxed. Exactly. And so I'm like persona is a game where everything's turned based and everything is choices and dialogue and options. So you're fine with one caveat, with one. And guess what the sticker the sticker is, right?
Starting point is 03:19:55 Fucking stealth sections are the only thing that require timing and execution and precision. Stealth is for people that don't play games regularly to sneak around the castle. Right. And like running to the next hiding point, like is something that I've been trying to like show off, but she just can't get the hang of it. And like at points, you get really, really frustrated. And I'm like, damn, everything else in this game is like you have forever. Yeah. To decide what to do for this one thing.
Starting point is 03:20:21 But it's become a major sticking point, you know. So like, yeah, it's definitely something where I always I sit back and I let the mistakes happen. Finally, a reason to go hang out with that fucking dumpster at the bar. What's her name? Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Right. I thought you were doing Wally's voice like, oh, I'm not going to watch my well, really say play this game.
Starting point is 03:20:46 I finally have a reason to go hang with the dumpster. I'm like, what? I don't know how to do Wally's voice. It really just sounds like a normal voice. I barely know how to do my voice. The sound of someone that will never give back a Wiimote. I wouldn't let me finish showing it off to everybody in the bus. OK. And then everyone thinks it's the coolest. So I left the Wiimote in the hot zone.
Starting point is 03:21:10 You're just walking up like the same guy that just spinning around. It was like, I should. I should ask before we get too far away from it because the dead to rights help. He is over. Yeah. Wally, do you know about the hot zone? Any idea where any of that hot zone shit came from? Yeah, I do. OK, all right. No, I just looked it up and I went, OK. Oh, OK.
Starting point is 03:21:31 I forgot when you want to bury a thing like this. You go, yeah, it exists. Yeah, I saw it. Well, no, it's my fault. And I know that's not even that's not even what I mean. I mean, like what sequence prompted this stupid shit? So fucking dead to rights or lock. That's right. Right. Has this massive, huge banner, the whole lock picking in against.
Starting point is 03:21:52 Stop the pin in the hot zone in like big orange fucking slam letters. Yeah. OK. No. All right. My fault for having a Facebook that was accessible publicly. A hundred percent. So that's fixed. I just played the game. Yeah, it's 100 percent. I have nothing else to say besides, yeah. Yeah. One more coming from.
Starting point is 03:22:22 What's this one? Stop laughing about it. Just pick the lock, Matt. It's picked all. Just pick the lock. I picked them all. Fuck. That game's ending is so stupid. Yeah, I'm going to have to put I'm going to have to fucking timestamp the ending of Dead to Rights. Do you know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 03:22:36 It sucks. Yeah, I don't. Don't read it. I just want to say it. It's just. Is it? It's just I feel like we've answered that before. Exactly. That question sucks, man.
Starting point is 03:22:53 I met a I met a guy during Pax. It's like you've read like three of my questions on the podcast. And I was like, that's higher than average, like my whole lot. He's like, yeah, you should answer more of them, though. I remember when I was running the podcast the first time on Willie's first absence, I picked two random good-looking questions that were both from the same person. There you go. You seem nice.
Starting point is 03:23:16 All right, Eileen says there will bring Matt Nito and Pat Toad. Oh, man. I recently stumbled on a Korean police drama on Netflix called Bad Guys, Wild City. Not only is it the best title for anything, but also an amazing show with great characters. It's pretty much the wire meets Marvel's corridor fights set in Korea. What?
Starting point is 03:23:38 I've got so many recommendations. I've got so many great recommendations like Congo from you guys that I wanted to show something as well. OK, that's all I want to be a hundred percent transparent. I never recommended Congo. He did. You know, people go watch Congo. I said I said I said that there's a laser that saws monkeys in it. Yeah. And then you would finish that with like, go watch Congo.
Starting point is 03:24:04 I promise it's in there. No, you were the one man marketing team. Matt, Matt, OK, let's tattooed Congo on your back every time you talk about stupid bullshit. You always follow it up with go see it. It's so stupid. You show everybody the monkey laser tattoo on your back every time that Congo comes up, you show them and you tell them to go see it.
Starting point is 03:24:28 You can't go see it. It's on theaters. Yeah, you paid for it to come back to theaters. I go to the theater. I get ten dollars for one ticket to Congo. Please remember, remember for like a year, Conan O'Brien was campaigning for Dirty Dance, Dirty Dancing to come back. And he just every show would have a.
Starting point is 03:24:47 I was so mad when I found out it was actually coming back because I'm like, he knew he fucking knew. And then they show a clip from it finally. And he's like, it shows a clip and then Carter goes, what the hell was that? That was awful. Oh, this was a mistake. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Amazing. Dirty Dancing campaign.
Starting point is 03:25:06 I remember I was there, man. And you were there in the audience. Oh, I was strong. Um, coming up comes coming out. Let's see. Dead to Right should be finishing up soonish because it's done. I was surprised it's not out. It didn't already come out.
Starting point is 03:25:22 I'm sure I think there's like one more. It might it might have aired like two hours ago, maybe. Willie and I are also probably going to finish up Couture either by the end of this week or beginning of next. In addition to that, you guys are still lost in a mirage session. Mirage of carnages, which you're playing fear. Fire Emblem, Sharp Fee, Sharp Fee. That's happening.
Starting point is 03:25:52 We're playing Boree Bay, the Boree Bay. Got some we got some good. Give me give me some give me some good mirage memes you guys have made. Come on, give me more like Snoree Bay. All right. Whoa, oh, there's that bit now. So we played it for three hours straight and that's a banger. Take the best cool bad ass girl on your team.
Starting point is 03:26:14 Got it. And then when she transforms into Miku and then you're like, she's the even better ass. Yeah, that's what we all wanted. Like, have you ever seen somebody henshin into the worst thing ever? And they're a bad ass by default. It's never happened that I don't know what to do with myself. It's so fucking weird.
Starting point is 03:26:37 What are you talking about? You're feeling some type of way. Vocaloids have met much inner strength like Tendo Soji is a bad ass. But on so is Kamen Rider Kabuto. So you're fine when either one is around. But this is so clearly like, no, don't transform. What was the other kid? What was the other guy's name?
Starting point is 03:26:56 Kota on the fuck? Oh, the second guy. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, right, right, right. Imagine if Kabuto fucking transform into that guy instead of a Kamen Rider. It's just yeah, it's unique. I'll give it that. That's right. It's unique to turn into something that's not as cool as your default.
Starting point is 03:27:17 The aside from that, I guess that's everything. That's everything on the channel. Next week, there will probably be a new thing, maybe, probably. I'm yeah, whatever the reboot video came up. And if you haven't seen it, check it out. Yes, you know, video called Fantastic. The history of the reboot reboot.
Starting point is 03:27:35 And it's me talking about reboot, the thing that I like a lot. And yeah, give it a peek on Woolly versus. And hey, if you're if you're got that recommendation from Wally just now on the podcast, that means at the end of all these video, you know that he didn't go drown himself. Oh, he's completely alive and here. Yeah, talking. Yeah. Fine.
Starting point is 03:27:58 The the parody and the poem that I that I that I took all that writing from. Yeah, is none. I just yeah, yeah, mm-hmm. I can feel it. Yeah, OK, it's real. Yeah. Dark, the the fucking old man one is the one that just fucking killed me. The worst by far.
Starting point is 03:28:17 Well, that's horrific. It's been two decades in the making. So, yeah, mm-hmm. So, yeah, Wally's Wally's essay to misery. The reboot reboot video is fantastic. You go check it out. Matt, anything coming up? How fucking good is hexadecimal's voice actor?
Starting point is 03:28:38 Fantastic. Like God. A plus. Oh, they didn't they're brilliant because we don't have to animate her lips. Like Tony Jay's a God. But aside from that, you know, I was interviewed about his death. Really were. This is the weirdest. I don't think I ever told you this when he died.
Starting point is 03:28:55 Someone got into contact with me because I talked about reboot somewhere. That's when Facebook noted reboot fan. I could find you the article. It's like Matthew Kovalevsky says like, yeah, he was an amazing voice actor. I really like is weird. I don't know why I was contacted about this. I know you're the biggest reboot fan ever. Clearly, um, I owned an Enzo toy anyway.
Starting point is 03:29:21 On season one or season two. No, no, a matrix. I mean, I mean, matrix on the flop. Us, I have a retrospective of all the rampage games coming up because I played the brand new one that was in arcades at Dave and Buster's exclusive. As the rock in it. No, but it's I'll I'll show you a video that's fucked up and I'll be doing a review of the actual rampage movie
Starting point is 03:29:46 because that comes out this Friday. Are you going to be streaming anything this week? I don't have a computer still fucking shit. And they said two and a half weeks. Oh, man, I could have got that retweet, man. You could have got that retweet. My my tweet didn't did well enough as it was. I had a crash balls out.
Starting point is 03:30:07 I had an exclusive on that that poster. Mac, you could have got the rock on your side. You could have got a follow from the rock. I don't think I would have got to follow for the rock. Let's see. I'm going to be streaming Monster Hunter Warframe over on Angriest Pat and I'm going to be playing more on the table page over it. Peach saliva.
Starting point is 03:30:25 That's pretty much it for me this week. Yeah. There's there's another pop off report coming. Really? Is it new or is it? Is it one of the pre-required because you see the new shit? You're going to do one on that. Oh, no, it was.
Starting point is 03:30:41 I mean, that's a thing, but it's not really a pop off. That's just like someone getting mad and throwing a controller. But it wasn't their control. Yeah, it's the other guys. Who is the other guy's controller? But the guy had no cells. It's so it's a weird moment. Yeah, it's a really weird moment.
Starting point is 03:30:55 Like, I don't know why he let him do that, you know. But yeah, some guy was playing Tekken and he grabs the controller of his opponent and throws it after the fight and then throws his own afterwards. Not satisfied. Yeah, it's not one that was a pop off. Let's pop off. Fuck off.
Starting point is 03:31:13 Everyone should clap for that. I clapped when I saw it. Funko pops. OK. I don't know what he actually does. I don't know what you're doing. I didn't do it. Oh, shut up, man.

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