Castle Super Beast - SBFC 270: Racist Cat and the Cowboy Bang Bangs

Episode Date: October 30, 2018

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Starting point is 00:00:59 I wouldn't even really be interested in the N64 mini-console because so many of those classics are like, but there's better versions existing already on the 3DS. Yeah, the Rare Replay also is the best stuff. And the Rare Replay defines like 50% of the N64 as I wear this N64 fucking Japanese thing. And I'm like, you know what? The only reason I would buy one is if they rebranded the Ultra 64 and put in the stupid logo at the start with the screaming voice, that's the only reason. That makes me think about all those consoles that Genesis Classic would just be impossible
Starting point is 00:01:39 at this point. Because of the big, huge Genesis collections coming out soon. No, but not even that because it's like, what are you going to put all the sports games that the licenses don't exist for anymore? I think you put out all the Sonics, you put out one of the Echoes. I don't know which one. I also don't know. Vectorman.
Starting point is 00:01:58 No. Oh, Sparxster. Everybody think, no, it's not Sparxster. Rocket Knight. Rocket Knight. Vectorman is a thing. Imagine if they just put out Sparxster, it's not Rocket Knight. No matter how good or bad it is, you'd have to put it there because of how exclusive it
Starting point is 00:02:14 is. You couldn't put out all the Disney games. Couldn't put out those X-Men games. Mutant League. Oh shit. The Who? Yeah. The Men?
Starting point is 00:02:23 Yeah. I like this trend. The X-Men. Yeah. I like this trend of like HDMI mini consoles because like I said, as far as I see it, these are just hotel room shenanigans. They're hotel room shenanigans until somebody like hacks it. So I see that as a cool thing and I hope other companies start taking trend after.
Starting point is 00:02:47 Well, who? Well, I mean, now that Nintendo and Sony are on the table and Sega's got one and Neo Geo is also doing it. Can we get that Xbox original classic? I mean, so here's the thing though. It doesn't just have to be like... Can we actually though? You could.
Starting point is 00:03:04 No, just keep adding more to the Xbox One backwards compatibility. That's fine. But what I was saying is that it doesn't just have to be hardware manufacturers, it can be software as well. EA used to have their own little TV device plug-in thing. Oh yeah, I want the 3DO. For real games? I want the 3DO classic.
Starting point is 00:03:19 Yeah. I remember back in the day going through like a future shop and seeing the EA specific, like it has one or two of their sports games on it plug into your TV thing. That's fucking weird. Console. Yeah. So like imagine if Rare Replay was its own little HDMI plug-in collection. I mean, I wouldn't buy it because I already own them, but I could see people not wanting
Starting point is 00:03:39 to buy an Xbox One for that. It can be interesting. While I appreciate the novelty of these devices, I would much rather have them rolled into their existing back catalog called Backwards Compatible. I almost bought an Xbox One last week just for the backwards compatibility, essentially. I ended up not, but... I think if there's like two or three more titles released that you have particular whatever's for, you might be like, yeah, fine, a toky.
Starting point is 00:04:07 Although to be perfectly honest though, as much as I'm saying that, I kind of really just want a Capcom one, but I'm good. It's pretty much... Beat them up bundles as close as you're going to get for a while. I don't really... Yeah. I'd like it the other stuff too, you know. Games that matter.
Starting point is 00:04:22 Well, because imagine if you would, if they just released like... What's missing? Imagine if they released a small little box and they called it CPS One. That's for you and for him or me. I know. And that's it. That means nothing. And then next year you release...
Starting point is 00:04:37 CPS Two! That's all I would really want. I'm waiting for CPS Three. It doesn't have as many games with their way of running. You'd get... No, I want CPS Two. Here's what you'd get with that. Way too many games.
Starting point is 00:04:48 You'd get Red Earth, JoJo, and New Generation. Oh, yay! Warzard. That's what I said. He said, yeah. Oh, I said Warzard. You said Red Earth. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:04:59 That's all you'd get. No, man. I would absolutely buy a CPS One or a CPS Two box. I'd buy a Jag class. Well, you already bought a CPS. I did. But it would be... That would be a really fun thing to release and just like make it a crazy arcade thing,
Starting point is 00:05:13 you know. Well, they are in the sense that that company Arcade One Up has a Capcom arcade machine coming out next year. So it's got Strider, 1942, Final Fight, Ghouls and Ghosts. And it's like, that's great because I'm not beating that. I'm... Better be on FreePlay. So like those things are simultaneously amazing and simultaneously I don't like them because
Starting point is 00:05:40 they're amazing because I like the idea of everyone being able to own their own little arcade cabinet. I think that's super cool. I want that to be a publicized idea that gets out there. I don't like them because they're too small and they're bad if you're used to a real arcade cabinet. Yeah. So like, it's like...
Starting point is 00:05:55 I don't... All the... Here's... I'm going to answer a lot of people that sent them at me and said like, hey, dude, have you seen this cool thing? And like say that yes, and having a normal arcade cabinet, I don't want that shit at all. Well...
Starting point is 00:06:09 However, not having space in your old place and having one of these things as an option, it's the best fucking thing you can get. Well, luckily no one is familiar with an old arcade cabinet anymore as they are now decades out of popularity. There really is, I went... There's motherfuckers out there meeting kids and they're teaching at school that don't know Naruto. They only know Boruto.
Starting point is 00:06:31 I saw that. Shin-A-T proof. That's written out about fucking seeing the kids doing hand symbols and he's going like, oh, you guys are watching that anime. I think the one... And they're like, there's an anime about his dad and he's like... I think the one that got me the worst was like, I started watching you guys at the end of elementary school.
Starting point is 00:06:49 Yeah. I'm going to college now. And I always go, thanks kid. Oh my... Oh fuck. Yeah. I was in upstate New York and they had this tiny little arcade in the mall still called Fun Zone and they walk in, there's no machine that looks like an old arcade cabinet anymore.
Starting point is 00:07:09 Like they're zero. Everything has giant widescreen displays and 42 inch TVs and gigantic custom like cabs. Yeah, the modern arcade cab is like a VULIX style cab. It's just a big monitor attached to like a stand upright thing that just has the controls on it. It's like not connected because that's stupid. Yeah. If you're not printing out cards like Injustice, you're not making money.
Starting point is 00:07:31 Hate that Injustice game. Yeah. But that's the only way to make... It's annoying. It's annoying. It's annoying. It's just kind of watch the fight play out. You put in cards of every very...
Starting point is 00:07:40 We showed you this book a while ago. That's hot. But it's... Yeah, it's like it's a fighting game but it's not. It's just you pop your cards... That's hot. And then random things happen. I think there's a big button that says attack.
Starting point is 00:07:49 Maybe. I don't know. That's super hot. Anyway, we can lament the death of arcades forever because... Speaking of lamenting the death of arcades, Willie, I noticed that you seem mega exhausted right now. No, he just seems totally... Oh yeah?
Starting point is 00:08:03 He's not... Oh, okay. Are you exhausted because I was going to segue into like, did you accidentally turn off Canada Cups? What? Oh. I didn't go. Oh, you didn't go?
Starting point is 00:08:16 Oh, I thought you were going to go. Well, I bought my tickets and I had my stuff ready to go but I didn't end up going. Oh, all right. But I did hear that there was a huge mess and like knowing Lapshee and those guys, like I can imagine how furious he was at the time because... Wait, it turned off or it was going to turn off? So the thing will happen... It was very fun what I heard.
Starting point is 00:08:38 Essentially, again, I only caught wind after the fact but Canada Cup happened this weekend alongside EGLX, which you remember from last time. So they... Now that moved like downtown next to the fucking sweet-ass... Actually, so it was the TCC, right? And this is the giant one where Enemy North happens, right? So this year they fused so the both events are the same event. So Canada Cup took place at EGLX, right?
Starting point is 00:09:08 At the all venue that we went to. No, I don't think so. I thought it was the TCC for both. So they're both sharing both at the same time? Wow. Yeah, they're combined events, right? So that's what happened this weekend. Anyway, so the combining of events though brings along some technicalities and one of
Starting point is 00:09:25 those things is the convention, EGLX has a closing time at 6.45, fighting game tournaments run until they're over. Until they're done. Yeah. Until the winner is crowd. You book for the day and then that's that. So when they were shutting down the event, they were like, we got to wrap this up and they're like, guys, we just started Grand Finals for fighting for the fighting game stuff.
Starting point is 00:09:46 What are you talking about? And so there was a huge miscommunication between the two and they... I think the event assumed that the tournaments would be wrapped up by then not knowing how those schedules were going. Not knowing how fighting games are. And then they also had like a thing where they were like, well, even if we gave you more time, they're going to shut off the power at a certain point. So an hour later, there was like the streams going down and things were in the middle of
Starting point is 00:10:09 Grand Finals, but effectively because the tournament side of things and the event side were just not, you know... See, that's interesting because I will say it's brilliant to have two events like that because they feed into each other until these things happen. Which is exactly what the type of thing that happened with the MLG and EVO crossover. And there's been multiple versions of this over fighting game history where combining events, you know, making the FGC event a part of a larger thing has tons of pros and tons of cons and usually the major, major con is the people running the big event don't understand
Starting point is 00:10:49 the special requirements. Like say your fighting game event ends on Sunday night, right? To be fair, you're probably going to want to book your venue all the way into like Monday at 10am. Tear it on on Monday, yeah. Yeah, like because it's going to, when did, every event ends at like fucking 3-4am, whatever. Yeah, absolutely. And I think again, I just, I don't know how or why, but wires got crossed or something
Starting point is 00:11:18 didn't work out. And I think Lap, she said he's going to be releasing an official statement if he didn't are ready to explain. I remember people telling me that like at one point the main screen, like for the people in the audience got turned off. Yeah, that's the power, yeah. Yeah, SF5 top eight was streaming in Japanese only for a while and they had like no English commentary and then after that, that got shut off.
Starting point is 00:11:43 And so people were just kind of scrambling for results. I think they got just uploaded to YouTube directly after the fact, but yeah, it was just a huge mess based on. I don't like, I guess hindsight is 20-20, but it's like, I don't understand how someone didn't maybe think this might occur unless they did. And but they're like, you know, again, we like, I'm sure statement has a statement. If it has, I haven't read it yet, but I feel like my, my gut just tells me EGLX, right? You're fighting gut.
Starting point is 00:12:14 My gut just tells me like EGLX, they're booking a con thing, they're running the con and then they're like, okay, and then all the video game shit wraps up and then we pack up and leave. And then that sentence gets uttered what on Saturday night had a big fighting game presence when we went and you commentated on it. You think they know how it fucking works? Yeah. The thing that did wrap up because it was a lot smaller of an event.
Starting point is 00:12:35 So they had, they had their own tournaments within EGLX, within the stuff that I commented like a couple of years back. No, I mean, like this year, you don't know that. No, they, no, no, that will Canada Cup was the tournament. Okay. The video game, the video game tournament presence at EGLX was just Canada Cup. So that was the problem, you know, amazing. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:12:58 So, you know, it's just someone going, Hey, yeah, that video game stuff's going to be done. And it's like, no, it's not. And I guess the timelines never got discussed or who knows, I'm just, I have no idea. But the regardless, that's what happened. And I think the simplest explanation here is that both top of the event organizers for each side of the event just assumed the other one knew what the deal was. Yeah, I think so.
Starting point is 00:13:22 And prop, this probably got discussed for the first time like, I don't know, Saturday night or Sunday afternoon and arguing ensued. And then that arguing did not resolve itself by the time the power got cut off. EGLX is a enthusiast gaming live expo, I want to say, it's a Toronto. Now they're like, it's a Toronto gaming event when we went, there's, they're very small. They got a lot of, they got a bunch of investors in the time frame since we've been there. Yeah, for sure. They went to having no vendors to Nintendo and Sony being vendors.
Starting point is 00:13:54 Yeah. And that's a vendor. That's a vendor. For your video game show. It's all stuff. And I forgot whether it was Ultra David or James Chan that said it, but one of them tweeted out something that, and it is true. It's like, when these things happen, it kind of gives you like, you kind of realize, oh
Starting point is 00:14:13 yeah, fighting game tournaments, no matter how professional they seem and are for like most of the ones you tune into, these are still grassroots things. And the fact that it's come to a point where you're just used to things being super smooth is a testament to how far it's come, if anything, because someone did point out that like back in the day, like, there was running bathroom, well, evil, evil 2002 grand finals for Marvel. I don't even know what that was. They were getting kicked out of the venue, and they had to run best of one sets in grand finals.
Starting point is 00:14:50 I like best of one. It makes it more tense. It's very exciting on best of one. So things got so bad that... You know, they could stop these delays and things running long by having best of one. So things got so bad back in the day that they had to do it that way. And then ultimately, that was the FGC that people knew and got used to. Things were always kind of getting going late and getting kind of crazy.
Starting point is 00:15:17 And now, like, it's you're used to a smooth event for the most part. You kind of forget that this is still a bunch of fans more or less putting together this whole show and making it seem smooth seamless. Well, it's like there's a way to make it seamless, and it's a compromise. I thought about this a while ago, because I watch a Coray gaming, it has like a ton of videos on similar topics, but the easiest way to fix this problem involves a compromise that I don't think any major FGC tournament is willing to make, which is close down the open nature of the tournament.
Starting point is 00:15:50 If you knew exactly how many fucking matches were going to happen... That exists. That exists? Yeah, those are called Invitational's. Right, but not for your Canada Cup, not for your Evo, not for your... What have you. No, Invitational's are a regular thing. And Invitational's are...
Starting point is 00:16:04 There are a number of those events throughout the years, throughout the year, Japan has them all the time with Kimono Michi and God's Garden. I was about to say God's Garden. And we have the Red Bull stuff as well. There's definitely a number of Invitational's that are regularly part of the season. Now those are run according to time, right? Yeah, you know exactly who's coming in and who's where and how many matches you're going to have top to bottom.
Starting point is 00:16:30 Unless there's run-ins. When you have like Evo or Canada Cup, I assume, where... That'll never go away though. Yeah, exactly. Because that's the whole point. You can show up on Friday with 300 of your buddies and go, give me a bracket. So no, there is that that's been shut down. So last minute...
Starting point is 00:16:48 So brackets of death is something you can do, right? Yeah, yeah. That's the one. Where you could go, if you want to sign up at the door, you can and you join the bracket of death, which is this has not been seated. This is just chaos reigns in this pool and ultimately every, like no matter how many top players show up late at the last second, you might fight the first place of last tournament first round.
Starting point is 00:17:10 I like death brackets. I'll be honest. But what they do is they've been having a cutoff point so that you can't sign up like up until I want to say like two weeks before the event starts so that they do know how many people are in it and how to schedule accordingly, you know? But it's still fan run, you know? I have a question then. If you didn't go to Canada Cup, then what did you do?
Starting point is 00:17:30 Uh, I sat at home. Okay then. Yeah. I mean, like what did you do with your week is what I did. That's what he was going for. Yes. I did a couple things, I guess. Not go to Canada Cup.
Starting point is 00:17:46 Didn't go to Canada Cup, didn't feel too great with that being the case. But I guess you missed the nothing then. See, we could have... Well, no, you would have seen stuff. We could have said that he got haunted if he went. Dammit! Fuck! We could have just said that all the stuff that happened at Canada Cup was because of
Starting point is 00:18:04 Willie's haunting. No, he got haunted and then couldn't go. Oh yeah? Like his plane tickets got snatched. Was it ghost based? Please give me something. Um, well Suzy's tweet cleansed me so it's okay. Fuck that.
Starting point is 00:18:17 But you got re-haunted hours later. The, uh, yeah, go click on that tweet to see that haunting thing. Uh-uh. You gotta re-double your haunting to get over anti-curses. Well, yeah, so I didn't go and instead here. So I watched more of Goblin Slayer. Yeah, I saw that. And, uh...
Starting point is 00:18:40 That would explain your mood. Here are my feelings on the matter. I hate this. Let me watch more. Well, it is true that the four episode rule is something that, you know, you generally should apply it to, to, to know. So I did. I watched the rest of Goblin Slayer's episodes throughout.
Starting point is 00:18:54 Like all that are out. To its credit, the pilot is the worst one. I've heard that. Are you reading a statement? The rest were just painfully mediocre and unappealing to me. He is reading a statement. Half of the supporting cast bugs me and the dry RPG setting does nothing for me. Even without overhyped recommends, I'm still not feeling it.
Starting point is 00:19:13 And so now you know what we've moved on to? No, no, no. It's the adaptation. It's the manga. You got to read the manga. Now. Okay. You will obviously...
Starting point is 00:19:23 To me, and that's what people have said. You will obviously... Because of all the missing content. You will obviously disagree with me on the content. But now you know that feeling in my chest when I read Superman comics, specifically to beg on more Superman. Um, yeah, it was, it was, there was a, there was a moment of when I click play, I was like, is this a spy watch?
Starting point is 00:19:43 And I'm like, it might be a spy watch, but I'm not... It's a perspective watch. I can neutralize myself. Wait. So was it more than four episodes? How many episodes are out? Like... There was, there was three out.
Starting point is 00:19:53 There was three out. Only. Okay. So yeah. Well... You should keep up to date. It's not a spy watch. It's a spy watch if you still hate it past four and you still watch.
Starting point is 00:20:01 Spy watch is like 10. Anyway, I, I, I decided to then watch something else. Good. Yeah. So I went and I watched Castlevania. Ooh. I've heard very, very high positive things. So I watched the first season finally, got through those four and I went, oh man, I can
Starting point is 00:20:18 see how everyone would be like, God damn it. This was all set up. All right. I get that feeling. Yeah. I did that like two months ago and was thrilled that I hadn't watched it when I came out. I don't know why you both didn't like watch to the time because it got good reviews. Because there were four episodes.
Starting point is 00:20:32 No, I know. But you know, like it's just, it's, there's, Castlevania is just that franchise that I've always just been the outsider on. Same thing for like Silent Hill and Resident Evil. Like it's just, it's one of those major video game franchises that I'm just an outsider for me. It's cause I like this four episodes and people told me that it's like, it's just, it's just a set up for a later season.
Starting point is 00:20:52 It is, but you know, I will say that Warren fucking Ellis is so good and I'm so happy that they made that good G.I. Joe OVA. Okay. Years ago retaliation. I think it was called. Oh my God. I remember what you're talking about.
Starting point is 00:21:07 Yeah. That was like, it was like, it looked like Castlevania like visually. So I, I was really happy with how they handled the, just in the first season, for example, how they handled the pacing of it, even though they didn't have enough to like get the story going. It was all just set up. I also think it was like a proof of concept. Let's see how this does.
Starting point is 00:21:28 And if it doesn't, then who cares? Yeah. Then it got like, it did well. But it was a, but the story and the pacing and the way things happen unfolds in the way that is necessary to flesh out the events and not in such a way that we got to get all the action in. It almost feels like a prologue. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:21:45 There's conversations that matter that take up where the action scenes should go. There's a long ass stretch of Trevor just wandering around the town. Talking to people. For like 12 minutes in the middle of an episode. And I think it does, it does really well to set up the world and Trevor and Saifah and Alucard. Like I think it was a really nice four episode build up, you know, and if it was all attached, it would be a prequel movie, you know, the first thing I noticed going into season two
Starting point is 00:22:19 and season two. So I'll say that I watched up to episode seven. So I'm only missing the last episode. Yeah. Have you started? I have not. Okay. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:22:30 I was planning to do that this weekend, but I was out of time. So yeah, I've watched everything but the last episode of season two. The first thing I noticed right away is the change in budget and animation style and quality. I saw animators that worked on the show just saying like, oh yeah, like way more shots in season two and like bigger budget. Well, it's different. So here's the thing, right? The colors are way brighter.
Starting point is 00:23:00 It's visually a much darker, darker, lights are lighter, right? They just took the contrast and pulled it up a lot. So that's noticeable. Early in the season, particularly the first two episodes, there's some really low budget looking moments compared to the first season. There's like some conversations that look really janky and stilted that you're like, that's not the quality I've been seeing, you know, for the rest of the previous season. So that was weird, but thankfully that improves and over time, you know, the rest of the season
Starting point is 00:23:34 ends up being pretty smooth. But like, yeah, the first couple of episodes are a lower budget than the first season was. The last couple are higher, I'd say. So they got the same budget. But it's eight episodes instead of four, right? So it's twice as much, twice as long. It continues the same pacing in the sense that they show you what you need to see as opposed to here's the today's fight scene, right?
Starting point is 00:24:04 You kind of realize when something is written out really long form and like in such a way that you're, you know, you're trimming the fat and keeping what matters that like, yeah, an enemy of the week or whatever will have the fight of the week or the conflict. You've got to have common writer fight the guy because every episode's got to have a guy got to have a thing and whatever. And in this case, like, no, there's episodes of just set up in conversation because you're building these characters doing what they're doing. The problem, however, is that you're following two parties, right?
Starting point is 00:24:35 You're following the the protagonists. You're following the antagonists and the antagonists have a lot more like to do and a lot more to figure out and to establish than the protagonists do, right? So there's a point where we're cutting, we're games of throne game of thrones in it and cutting back and forth. But like for a couple episodes in a row, the protagonists have very little to do. So they just hang out and talk. They just hang out in a spot for multiple episodes and up camp that type of thing.
Starting point is 00:25:08 Yeah. And like it, you know, like they're doing they're doing a thing that matters, but they have so there's so little going on with them compared to the bad guys having tons of things happening and conversations and politics going back and forth and whatnot. So it really does feel like the game like the game, like the pace slows down, cutting back to the protagonists. And then towards the end, it builds back up and, you know, so far and then it gets really, really strong.
Starting point is 00:25:35 But yeah, it's it. But like, yeah, just a mild pacing issue in that. And I don't know if the increase in the episode length had anything to do with that, or maybe it was just the asymmetrical nature of like Dracula and his crew versus the trio, the Dracula and his crew. Like they take the time to go, here's the crew, like I don't know if he's in it, but like if your crew usually Dracula consists of death, like in games, death, death works for Dracula, like punches and punches out.
Starting point is 00:26:06 I'm squinting at this, watching it, trying to figure out what what's from game and what's not. Right. Hector from Curse of Darkness is the guy with the hammer. And I can definitely feel, I can definitely, I know that Leon appears in a portrait on a wall. Yeah. Leon Belmont.
Starting point is 00:26:23 Yeah. Yeah. Yes. To all of the above. And it's really cool. Like Hector is a great character. There's a bunch of other stuff as well, but I'm looking at like, man, I feel bad. This is all lost on me because I'm sure this would be a markout moment if this was recognition.
Starting point is 00:26:40 For this first season, I marked out that it was based on Dracula's Curse, the third game, but at that time it was the first game chronologically. And I'm like, that's cool enough as it is. But it's like, after this story wraps up, if they want to, it's like, do Rondo do Symphony of the Night? You could feel like they actually go thinking about what you were saying earlier about death hanging out with Dracula. And I feel like they're working for.
Starting point is 00:27:04 Yeah. That's the no. They actually do a really fantastic job in this show, at least for the first season of why that plays because at the point that they show you Dracula, he is more or less indistinguishable from Satan. Yeah. Like he is a giant screaming flame mouth in the sky. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:27:25 Maybe don't get your hopes up about death. Okay. Okay. That's fine. But he's so cool. He's the skeleton. He's not cool. He's so cool.
Starting point is 00:27:33 And in Castlevania is what I mean. There's definitely a bunch of makes him cool. Bunch of like roving villains and normal enemies that I'm like, I'm seeing in their context. That's like, oh, that's fun to see that shitty dive kicking werewolf through the pose. The Medusa head just comes across the screen, just fucks up. And there is a there's a really cool moment of like, and now the video game begins right here. And it's like, oh, that was really fun.
Starting point is 00:28:02 But but it's building up to that, you know, so like in the same way that the first season builds up to the meeting of the characters, the second one is building up to this, this like adventure. But the adventure itself is not over the course of the season, you know. But in any case, it's just a really interesting world, really well written character. There's unfortunately, there are some important but background characters that have no voices because they're just like, we didn't have time, budget, money. I don't know what ever it is.
Starting point is 00:28:38 Yeah, but there's your robot masters that are just like silent character designs in the background. This is Frankenstein just in the back of these these these generals, you know, Dracula. These four kinks. Yeah, basically. But nonetheless, like fucking great anime, fucking great, just really well done. And yeah, like, again, I haven't I don't know what happens in the last episode. But like, things are really conclusive where I stopped.
Starting point is 00:29:10 So I'm kind of like interested to see where they're going to pick it up. But this is like a really good adaptation of a fucking old franchise. And this is the kind of love you want to see it get. But I'd love it if this actually I call it anime because it looks like anime. But yes, it's American. I know that. It's Marvin mysteries. But it's anime.
Starting point is 00:29:31 I say the word because it looks like it's totally spies. All right. Yeah, I'm sure you're reacting to the chat. But I would love it if this got successful enough to like be Voltron where just bam, eight seasons. What where where they come from eight seasons? How how is it possible and jump around to all the different Castlevania timelines? Only if you decided to jump around.
Starting point is 00:29:54 Yes. However, the problem with that, like that's a cool idea. And as a fan, I'm sure people would love to get the chance to see each game given that treatment. But then you have to make Dracula continuously exist for some stupid reason. That's fine, because they do games all the time. Dracula's deal. That's his whole at the end of every Castlevania game.
Starting point is 00:30:18 They have a really shitty reason why Dracula is back. I think that's that's my point, though. No, OK, my point is that, like, you would have to come up with a shitty reason in a in a list in a story that's not shittily. But they already did that, like, probably the biggest confusing point about the first one is that at some point, Trevor mentions, oh, yeah, my great granddad totally wrote about all this crazy shit in Dracula's Castle and I'm like, wait a second, why is Dracula still around if Simon
Starting point is 00:30:49 and Leon and what have you and fucked his vampire shit up? OK, fair enough. I definitely don't know enough about it. I don't know which game it was, but one game established that we kill Dracula in such a way or Dracula was resurrected in such a way that all we can do is that when we beat him, he stays beaten for 100 years. OK, but we'll always come back. And that's why new generations of Belmonts have to always be prepared.
Starting point is 00:31:15 And we have to like it was in like the game trailer's retrospective timeline. It's like from then on out, Dracula came back every 100 years to. And I'm like, if you establish a rule like that, then that's fine. I guess if that exists as game canon, then sure, killing Dracula is hard. The way it appeared like again, and I have to finish it off so I can't say speak definitively, but at least the point where I'm at. Like, I feel like the way it was written, it feels like it would undo like interesting character
Starting point is 00:31:51 to make it to undo that. Well, I mean, you know, like, sure, what? Yeah. So that's what I'm saying. Like it's a well written story and like characters, you know, go through their arcs and things and Dracula is a fucking great character. There's they actually spend a lot of time with him. There's a really good Dracula is not even there. In fact, there's many.
Starting point is 00:32:13 Lament of innocence. Yeah, never fight Dracula. Exactly. And that would be a great thing that you can take up the story with. Right. And any any one any examples of the games where like he's not in it, you know, or fucking what was what's the one with the the the anime kid the way they switched the arts. Some cruise. Yeah. Yeah. Every every DS game onwards. Right.
Starting point is 00:32:34 So that's that's a great example of like an excuse because he fucking. That's the shadow one. You don't even fight Dracula. You get a big horse. Yeah. A big old twisted that too. Right. That's what sucked. Yeah. Well, the soma cruise. Same shit. No, no. Some cruise is different shit. One or some of the crew's games was one like no Dracula,
Starting point is 00:32:53 but some guys are going to be reborn. So aria aria of aria of sorrow, daughter of sorrow and portrait of ruin and order of ecclesia are all about somebody found a piece of Dracula and then they're going to eat it and then they're going to be there. They're going to be a big Dracula. They're going to be a Dracula, too. Cool. OK. Yeah. So that's the sequel. So that's the thing is like the writing is quality enough
Starting point is 00:33:18 that like if you were to have to like bring Dracula's fucking annoyed ass back. OK. Then it would be it would be like lame. Like like even if it is canon, I know, but it's video games, right? A lot of Castlevania games sometimes get around this by well, this game's in the past. It's before the last one you saw. You could do that. You could do that, too. I have of course, then you'd have to jump back before Trevor, right?
Starting point is 00:33:41 I have a Simon comes after Trevor. Yes. Does he? Yeah, he does. I'm super Leon predates. Everybody on predates. Yes, because like Leon is referenced as like the Grand Patty. The originator and then Trevor. I didn't know there's also Christopher. Oh, Christopher, I believe is Simon Simon is the most popular.
Starting point is 00:34:00 Simon is the most well known. So I have. I like Richter the best. I have a favorite. I have a solution for woolly in terms of his sequel, because there is one time period that I desperately want to see and they could do anything they want with it. You better say Julius Belmont. It's Julius Belmont 1999.
Starting point is 00:34:15 The 100 year vampire. Is that is that black haired suit wearing? I look hard. No. No, he's he looks kind of like a cowboy with that hat. No, no, no, but is that the timeline? Yeah, yeah, again. Yeah, Aracado. Oh, yeah, I like that. Yeah, I know.
Starting point is 00:34:27 But the deal is I like there was never a game that took place in 1999. It looks like Teru Mikami. He has never gets his own game aside from being a playable extra. Like as new game. It's vaguely mentioned, but it was like the apocalyptic final showdown between the Belmonts and Dracula, in which they finally just they kill him for good. He never returns after that. The Battle of 1999.
Starting point is 00:34:48 And there's no game associated with it. So they never do anything. They never show you what happens. No, no, no, he was too much of a coward to ever make it. But they killed him really, really hard. Big build up war thing. Yeah, it was it was Julius Belmont and and Alucard again. And a known number of allies that finally just killed him to death for real. To the point where he got reincarnated into a bunch of combat kids.
Starting point is 00:35:12 But then he came back in 2097. Don't worry, what's what's Alucard up to when Simons are running around? Nothing, Simon. Yeah, nothing. I think he's asleep. He's either dead or asleep. OK, I think he wakes up in Symphony of the Night and is like, oh, man, Dracula. Because Richter is way after Simon. I can't believe it. So I have Castlevania 64.
Starting point is 00:35:32 Yeah, sure. But the werewolf guy. Well, that's that's the second game. But I would love a game based on that where I love an anime based on that werewolf corner. I'm a huge I'm a huge Alucard, Mark. So like you are. He he gets some cool fights, some good play as you should. He got nothing in the first season.
Starting point is 00:35:48 Yeah, he gets good push for sure. And then he gets really good push. I'll say. And then he ends up as a Japanese salary, man. There's I think I can ask you a question that you can answer. But like would not would like mask any sort of spoilery things is that during the second season, is it primarily is it just the three people? Cypher, Alucard and. Yeah, it's the trio.
Starting point is 00:36:14 That's interesting. Interesting. So in the game, do you is it three playable characters? There's four. There's four. Oh, who's the fourth? Anyway, well, I'm going to answer his question about who the playable characters in Castlevania three are. But yeah, there's a fourth character. It's Grant the thief or Grant the nasty. If you're feeling nasty, hmm.
Starting point is 00:36:36 No, OK. Oh, yeah. Just no grant at all. OK, yeah. But was Grant Dracula the whole time? Ultimately, like really awesome treatment of an old video game franchise. And out of the bed, like I've seen people say this is the best. Adaptation video game currently, I mean, it's up there. I hope the Monster Hunter movie.
Starting point is 00:36:59 I'm sure until we list it out, you know, we will like it's hard to think of a challenger. But yeah, that's a really, really good one about Far Cry. I've never seen that. It's not. It's bad. And I'm also I haven't seen two of the three blood rain movies. There was one. Yeah. There are three. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:37:18 I knew there was the one. No. What about Dungeon Siege? I have not seen that either. I didn't even know that. That has Jason Statham in it. Sure does. Oh, boy. And Sir Ben Kingsley. Oh, no, no, that's blood rain.
Starting point is 00:37:30 That's blood rain. Blood rain has been Kingsley. Or maybe he was in that too. It's possible he was in both. What else you got? I popped in Soul Calibur and I played a bunch of that, made a character and I dicked around and it's really good. And the the.
Starting point is 00:37:50 It's interesting. I like how they have these explanation modes of like here's a little like tutorial for your character, explaining what what you kind of want to do. They're really in depth. They are, despite being like maybe like six or seven pages. And they're all entirely in text, which is that's what sucks. And I really wish that those explanations were in a mode. Because like everyone at this table and everybody plays fighting games
Starting point is 00:38:13 regularly can read that and go, oh, yeah, great. Got it. So for people who are total beginners, no way. So if you've seen the the Under Night. I'm both. Fisticuffs we did the other day. Imagine that type of really good tutorial, way less complex. But like it's in the game, but it's just a giant series of pages. And well, not giant, but it's a couple of pages.
Starting point is 00:38:35 And it's like, oh, you could have demonstrated this through a tutorial mode. Fortunately, so that sucks. The other thing was, of course, yeah, the downloading characters as we talked about is terrible. It's you had more time. I had more time to do it. Yeah. Yeah. And I also I like I found a really cool have to address this. I found a really cool lady, Maria, yeah, and I couldn't get it
Starting point is 00:38:57 because like she had a gun and I didn't unlock the gun yet. Yeah, go go go through labor of souls as fast as possible. That's that's the problem of I'm not sure if it still has it, but you couldn't do that either. So I'm like, I scrolled all the way through back to get to her and couldn't even get it. No, you don't deserve Maria, will it? So so there's that whole creative character shenanigans.
Starting point is 00:39:19 That's silly. But there's the other creative character. Shenanigans. Oh, you thought the cube. No, but I heard jumping online. People are like ruining matches by covering themselves. Super balanced. Yeah. I mean, it sounds like a don't make don't let objects grow to that size. So the cube is pretty funny because if any of the other objects
Starting point is 00:39:39 don't grow that big, though, why? I don't know. But so the cube is pretty funny. If people haven't seen it, it is a is a rainbow enormous cube that's like one quarter of the screen, but a new challenger arose to bring screen, which was the green screen. Yeah, which is a full can't see green screen. Yeah, somehow.
Starting point is 00:40:01 So we like the freedom of letting people move their objects around. You did a really bad thing by letting people make certain ones go too big. Oh, apparently that is an issue with cheat engine. Oh, where the data gets saved at way too large. Oh, OK, so they're cheating anyway. Yeah. OK, well, well, fuck. But but still, well, that's PC. That that's that's PC that being said, the changes to the characters
Starting point is 00:40:29 move sets based on their hit boxes and sizes. They very much need to disable character custom creators in ranked mode. It's it's real wild. I can't believe they allowed that to begin with. No, I got a message saying you can't use you can't use customs in ranked or I fight them all the time. Yeah, I saw Twitter posts saying they need to not have this shit.
Starting point is 00:40:50 That's all the time because you're getting like eight foot tall Mitsurugi's and it's bad. So I when I when I when I went through it, I saw a message that said you won't be able to use the following like your character, the following modes ranked and custom match. And then I and then I saw it said, if you make your guy taller, you have more reach, but you have less power. Yeah, the reaches.
Starting point is 00:41:10 You have more power and less reach. People are making just distended hit box characters like giant talum and stuff like that. And they're super busted. So does the damage? Yeah, whatever. There's a 10 percent fucking damage fall off. Like it's it's way worth it to make a giant.
Starting point is 00:41:29 Yeah, or or a super tiny asteroth that can't be juggled. I really I really do remember seeing a menu saying you can't use those characters, though, so I believe you. But if it if that's the case, then it just doesn't work because like you're fighting a bunch of people's overseas and a bunch of just super weirdos. OK, that's all people complain about it. Well, so there's that. But you know, I whatever spent a bit of time with like not not too much time there.
Starting point is 00:41:57 I jumped over to the story mode to see what was going on because which one? The cannon story mode, yeah, because, you know, this is a why is everyone young again? What's the timeline doing? Who's going to tell me not in the game? Because it's a reboot, I assume. No, but then why is Tira in the game? I don't know. So three. So everyone says this is a reboot of one.
Starting point is 00:42:21 But then. But then I thought it was a reboot or two. Is that Salwells in there? It's a reboot, but they're bringing in future characters to show you, I guess, what they were up to in the past or whatever the case. Yeah. And yeah, Hildi's cool. She should have been there. I agree. I like that. And so, yeah, that story mode turns out to just really be same as Street Fighter.
Starting point is 00:42:44 So it's good in the structural sense that like you boot it up and then add in the content. Exactly. Oh, so you boot it up and then you find out here's the cannon timeline. It's about the trio of, you know, X, Maxi and and Killik. And here's their them on their adventures to stop Nightmare, right? And they run into Nightmare, what, Cervantes? And like and all of those characters literally go. And to be fair, like if you just watch the bunch of cut scenes and beat a couple of arcade modes over the years, like they don't really push them
Starting point is 00:43:22 as the trio of friends outside of a couple of moments in the intro. Yeah. But they are meant to be the story. They're the heroes that defeated Soled because the story is no longer about to get it's shit together because it's worlds and its characters are really fun. And it's like their story there. But like coming off Tekken 7's awful story mode, the worst ever. And this, which I don't even know if this is better or worse than Soul Calibur Five. Is it? So what you do is you beat that story mode with Killik and his friends.
Starting point is 00:43:56 And then after you kill it, it is amazing. And then after you beat it, you get the other you get the red. You can't even select your character. Yeah. Right. It's like after you beat it, you've beaten the prologue, I guess. Right. And now the individual story lines are available. And the whole thing is set up over a chart of the fourteen hundreds. So what was Astroth doing on Tuesday? Yeah. And or wait, no, is it 1600?
Starting point is 00:44:22 Sorry, 1886. OK. Yeah, sorry, I was mixing up with Castlevania. They say the 16th century, which is and and then you and you see where in the timeline their stuff is and like Siegfried just doesn't even exist until you go through Nightmare to even figure out what the deal is and stuff. So they make it so that you unlock individual little plot lines. And that's I like the way you do that. Unfortunately, the content of these plot lines has been really bad so far, as always.
Starting point is 00:44:48 Oh, no, you're not even wrong. So it's just like you've got the structure down and you even have a mini Mortal Kombat style, like mini narrative. How many are talking? Well, it doesn't take long at all to get through the main storyline, but you know, it's not like Street Fighter or M.K. in that way. But like I think the way going forward, like structurally for fighting games to work is to do this, have a have a plot mode where you switch characters
Starting point is 00:45:17 according to who needs to be there for the story to make sense and then have individual mini stories of what they were up to when they fought two or three people and called it a day, right? But making those stories not suck is now the big grand work. Soul Calibur is never in writing. No, like even from the earliest game to now, it's always always. Always piss poor. I I need to you to tell me that Lizard Man is there hanging out being.
Starting point is 00:45:44 Hey, man, I'm Lizard Man. There's a bunch of grunt lizard men. That's good enough. I'll live with that. I don't think that's good enough. The name. The named Lizard Man. Yeah, Aon. I have not encountered yet. Aon is the ship. Come on, Aon. But I really, yeah, I had to fucking to be Scorpion and Lizard Man.
Starting point is 00:46:04 I think it's a real secret. Well, the the the leak. I wasn't the leak saying Raiden. I don't know. There was a weird. There was like a man at arms leak or something that showed Raiden off as the possible other Konami. Has Konami had any crossover characters in a in a while in Soul Calibur?
Starting point is 00:46:22 No, and just in general, it's like the last time I can think of one was Bomberman, Bomberman is in. I was thinking of Etio Costume and MGS four. Yeah, yeah, that's weird. Bomberman's in Smash. Yeah. Yeah, I guess. And then Simon is. Yeah, that's true, too. So, yeah, to be showing up, that's wacky.
Starting point is 00:46:46 That's cool. I like the 16th century. The ass has landed. Yeah, I mean, that's that's a new story, though. So yeah, we'll get into that. But ultimately, yeah, Soul Calibur Six still solid ass gameplay, still terrible, terrible story. It's almost as if it's a it's a genre plague at this point. It's a lot like Soul Calibur Five in that way where I mean, it's better
Starting point is 00:47:08 gameplay than Soul Calibur Five, but Soul Calibur Five's problems were not in its gameplay. Yeah, Soul Calibur Five had a different problem, though. Like it had a very in depth story mode. The problem is that you just despised every character in it. For the most part, but not me. The Turbulus is the worst. The the it makes, though, a good argument for, like, you look at the
Starting point is 00:47:32 ArcSys style of story mode, where it's like, this is just watch a fight, watch a 20 minute cutscene. Yeah, we'll be fine. Just we're going to make a movie for you to watch. And this is it. Don't even worry about the stupid. A lot of budget. Just do that.
Starting point is 00:47:48 You know, and it almost makes it. Yeah, it almost makes it feel like that might be an answer if you can't figure out the story thing. But Namco's fighting games, they seem to be intent on trying to make the story work. And it just I was unironically more invested in Tekken three's story via its use of CG cutscenes at the end. Yeah, I was in Tekken seven story from the actual story mode. That's fucked up.
Starting point is 00:48:16 And that's because we've had games of like bad in between. Tekken four's story modes are really bad. Like if we played a bunch of around on Tekken four. No, if we if we need to stop, you need to stop. I saw some fun combos over the weekend. I bet I bet that has some fun combos. Oh, yeah. Were they with the wall?
Starting point is 00:48:39 Yeah, where they were jinn or Kasia. It was I think it was one was Paul. Oh, yeah, just right handed the wall four times. Remember, remember, this was the sequel to Tekken three. Yeah, OK, what a fucking you say like that. Anyway, cool is Fighter Four is a sequel. The coolest part of that game is jinn and and Horan's new outfits. And that's it.
Starting point is 00:49:04 Well, and the invention of Steve Fox. All right, I forgot. Yeah, I forgot Steven got invented and Christie. I really care for Marduk King so much cooler than Marduk. Yeah, but I like the UFC inclusion. That's true. Ground and pound as a system. Anyway, um, yeah, whatever.
Starting point is 00:49:24 But that that that more or less was me. So yeah, I didn't get much chance to play much because I was in a cabin up up, not up north, but down south, which was colder because we're on a mountain. So it was snowing. Was it in the woods all weekend? Yes, it was. I see.
Starting point is 00:49:41 But I did put some time, strange enough, into Capcom, beat him up collection because I bought that. I was like, yeah, final fight, played final fight for like two stages. And I'm like, OK, that's not all that strange that I stopped. Then I was like, you know what, let me go through these games again. And it's just like, holy shit, I never given Battle Circuit. It's due. Which one's that? Battle Circuit is the last side scrolling beat him up.
Starting point is 00:50:04 Capcom ever really made, which was. Basically Captain Commando again, but with weirder characters in a weirder world, but it's it's Captain Commando. And it's almost a little bit like Wonderful 101, where your characters are cyber blue, like Pink Peacock and whatever. So you have four playable characters and it's like a four player fighting game. The problem is, is that all of the world is the wackiest, most ridiculous Capcom bosses, his weird brains and in machines and just it just it just fucking
Starting point is 00:50:37 nonsense full on video game bullshit, full on video game bullshit. You're bounty hunters and you're just trying to stop some evil thing. Nothing is that memorable. The problem is that it has probably one of the best things Capcom ever did in any beat him ups, which is you have a bunch of special moves that that get leveled up and you need to collect money as you fight. And it's not just like, you know, in point items are released in a beat him up, like, oh, it's like a can of Pepsi or like a little piece of jewelry.
Starting point is 00:51:03 And it gives your points and whatever. Right. This has giant coins and the giant coins of different values and use those values in between each stage. Do you want your uppercut move to now do multi hits and have shadow after images? Yeah. Yes, I do. Yeah. And along with those, do you want to level up your health? Yeah, you want to level up to get another like live life. And that shit is really good on Battle Circuit.
Starting point is 00:51:30 But that's kind of it. You have so many cool moves, like you have a multi-heading, like sort of horizontal, like a hurricane kick type thing. And I'm like, shit, you need to put this system in every game. Oh, shit, this was the last one you released. So it's not going anywhere. That's a bummer. I mean, you know, Shadow's over. Miss Tara had the leveling, like, but this is different.
Starting point is 00:51:51 And you didn't feel it as much if you weren't a spellcaster, obviously. Yeah, it was it was very minor. Well, it really sucks that Shadow of Miss Tara is not in this collection because nothing needed it, but it's like it just would have been. Shadow of Miss Tara is never going to be in a collection like that because people will gladly just buy Shadows of Miss Tara. And I'm always going to. Well, I mean, it's on that's on Xbox,
Starting point is 00:52:13 backwards compatibility as far as I know. I'm always going to bring up Sengoku 3 in these situations, too. You know, yeah, this is cat called me. No, no, no, no, but I just mean that came out, by the way, in term. Yeah, it did the Aka collection. The nice thing about Battle Circuit is that while it's not to the level, Sengoku 3, there's lots of lots of still juggling, though.
Starting point is 00:52:33 You can you can get some shit going. Armored Warriors, I beat a few years ago. And that thing is incredible, too. Or power gear in Japan. Yeah. And just having bloatia in there. I don't want any other Mac. Of course, not. Don't give me. When I hammer start, like I died and I accidentally select another Mac,
Starting point is 00:52:55 I sit there and I let my Mac get beat up so I can be bloatia and and Jen. And then you can you fucking get tie and combine and form up. It's an amazing beat them up. They never got any play. Yeah. And this is the first home official home port ever. And that game's like incredible. And the last thing I want to say about that is like, you know, final fight has the most consistent like this bad guy stole this thing.
Starting point is 00:53:20 A woman and we need to save the saver. And there's these characters and the story motivations are very clear, whereas like pretty much every game in the collection is like, I don't know. What's happening? What's happening? Yeah. Who are you even fighting in Nights of the Round? Nights of the Round, I don't know. You get the Holy Grail, but no one mentions the Holy Grail until you get it, I guess. But Nights of the Round is weird, where it's like as a kid.
Starting point is 00:53:44 I was like, oh, shit, there's a whole Perry and block system. I forgot about that stuff. You hold back and like a jump or attack, I think. And you yeah, you go into like a Perry stance and someone hits you. You get a few seconds of like extra damage. I think it's cool. I kind of forgot about that. Warriors of Fate, though, which is like a Chinese, like, you know,
Starting point is 00:54:09 big, big like Dynasty War Warriors type thing happening that I never played and forgot how this game I never played was incredibly violent, where if you finish off bosses with your special move, you knock off their heads, their chests explode, you cut them in half and a cat-com beat them up. Yeah, that's fucking dope. I mean, it's not unusual. Let's see a thing of dark stalkers. People do get cut in half and stuff.
Starting point is 00:54:32 But yeah, if you finish off a guy with like your special, which is always down, they don't do fatality. Hey, well, could I ask you their fatality? A small favor. Could you actually move your mic just a few inches forward? Your nose whistle is picking up. Excuse me. I thought it was me for a second, but it's not. But like every you, everyone has an uppercut special move down up.
Starting point is 00:54:51 And if you finish off any boss with that, there's a character that has the most grappling I've ever seen him beat him up. Oh, yeah, because there's like main Dynasty Warriors hero with a sword, a guy with a spear. Then there's two guys that have nothing and they're just grab bows. Just touch you. And this guy has every grab he has. He has Zangief's bite.
Starting point is 00:55:11 Oh, wow. So if you grab a guy and beat him up and press down and punch, he bites them and geysers of blood come out of their quite the rare throw throwback. Wow. And that game has a lot of horsey, horsey play. You can jump on a horse almost anytime. Oh, I yeah, horsey play. Aside from that, yeah, I was up north. He watched all the the Nightmare on Elm Street South, down south north
Starting point is 00:55:38 in the Adirondacks and watch all the Nightmare on Elm Street movies. Unfortunately, Little V and his girlfriend had to leave. Well, like just as we got there, so then get the sticker on for that. But Nightmare on Elm Street, I've never watched all of them all in a row. It's a weird series where they know which are the good ones and they say which ones are the good ones. Wait, what? What do you mean they say? So Nightmare on Elm Street one made by West Craven directed by good.
Starting point is 00:56:07 Yeah. Nightmare on Elm Street two directed by nobody. Very weird sequel. West Craven comes back for Nightmare on Elm Street three dream warriors. Yeah, with Lawrence Fishburne in there and Patricia Arquette. It's awesome. Yeah, it's probably the best one. Wow, I don't know. Elm Street four. Was he credited as Larry Fishburne? Yes, he was, actually.
Starting point is 00:56:27 Never know, these four, five and six all shit. Yeah. The only good thing about Nightmare on Elm Street, six, Freddie's dad is there's a video game sequence where Freddie's controlling Oh, I've seen that. Yeah. So that one's really, really bad. And on the extras on that Blu-ray, they have extras where people shit on the movie. They talk to the producer at the movie series like we ran out of ideas and this was the worst one.
Starting point is 00:56:52 And he's in his office and he has Freddie Merch behind him. And they talk to other people and they're like, yeah, by part six, you start running out of ideas and here you go. Then like four years after that one, Wes Craven's new nightmare is the only other good one. So out of seven movies, there's three that are what a classic horror series. In that last one, they say the main girl that's the protagonist of this says, well, I only start in nightmares one and two, one and three.
Starting point is 00:57:25 And everyone knows like that was one of the best ones because Wes Craven's new nightmare is was two years before Wes Craven made scream. And that's what he was going forward. It's like it's about people making a new nightmare in Elm Street movie. But Freddie becomes real. Robert Englund, the actor behind Freddie is in the movie, just signing autographs. And and the woman that starred in one and three is like, I'm having nightmares of Freddie. That's weird.
Starting point is 00:57:55 And the meta is that Wes Craven and New Line Cinema have been making this movie these movies to keep the demon in check. That's as long as you make a movie, he's locked in. So that's the bad ones. They haven't made them. They said we just shit out a bunch of movies to keep the demon locked in. That's now since it's been four years since we made the last one. The real demon is getting stronger.
Starting point is 00:58:21 That's really good. And keep the Spider-Man demon in check. Imagine shit out of a canon explanation as to why the shit we got bad. Super solid. Very solid, because this is another one that Wes Craven directed and wrote. So that's again, when I when I I'll put the demon in check as long as I write it. A dumb question. Yes.
Starting point is 00:58:42 Do horror movies make money? Horror movies make all the money because the cost is low, but the game is high. Yeah. And there's there are. Do they make money in theaters? Yeah. Or is it OK on VOD? Like just digitally, there's a whole there's 10. It's it's like the Switch eShop or Steam.
Starting point is 00:59:03 There's 40 movies released a week. Yeah. Right. Because you will get some you you're going to spend like five million dollars max and then maybe even less than that. But like enough people will buy that you're like we didn't lose. So I have a really good example for Willie on this and thanks Red Letter Media for they've actually explained this at length in multiple videos. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:59:26 So there are some producers out there, some movie men who will basically buy your piece of shit pitch for five hundred thousand to a million bucks and you get to make a movie with it as long as they own everything with that pitch. This then inundates like the the market with just tons of fucking shitty horror movies like Annabelle and did all the all that fucking garbage. But one of them was paranormal activity. And paranormal activity made a shit zillion dollars. Do you know how much so did two and so did three.
Starting point is 01:00:04 Do you know how much the original paranormal activity was made for. Yeah. Thousand. Yeah, I remember it was a crazy. The guy that directed and did all that he made all of the money. So is it like then because the movie the movie making business as a whole is entirely a gamble where you make you make 99 clunkers so that the hundred pays off. That's right.
Starting point is 01:00:28 So not not even those 99 clunkers that might be clunkers in quality, but they always honestly it's the kind of business model the games business could use more of. Yes, C and D tier games just somehow making money. Oh, this one this one blew up. Wow. But were you going to say that like it's in parallel paranormal activity is made like if probably like a billion dollars. Yeah. Right.
Starting point is 01:00:53 So and they made like what six or seven of them. How many of those have they made? So for example, yeah, at least five. Because I feel as I guess I feel like I hear about the occasion. Like when I hear it in terms of like big successes, I hear about them occasionally, but a lot of the time and not not just because of like, yeah, like you and Leanna with the the dumpster diving on Netflix. But like in general, I feel like I don't hear a lot about the mid range junk
Starting point is 01:01:25 a lot of the time and like you'd like you say shit like Annabelle. I'm like, oh, yeah, I remember seeing a trailer for that. There are three of those movies, right? But like paranormal activity and and rec and get out. I think there are two strangers movies are like, yeah, they're huge, huge things. So yeah, I'm just I'm just wondering. I'm like, is it a genre that makes it so it's a it's a Matt. It makes so much.
Starting point is 01:01:49 Matt nailed it. So it's you make them for so fucking cheap. OK, so Halloween, the new Halloween that I talked about the other week, just passed two hundred million dollars domestically will probably finish its theater run not domestically worldwide will probably get two hundred and fifty million. Any guesses on how much it cost? Less than a quarter of that. Ten million. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:02:11 That that's so much profit. Like Marvel movies don't make that like the mid range Marvel movie doesn't make that much profit. They're they're fancy CG because they they they're like two hundred million dollars or whatever. And the trick is really obvious. Don't have a big CG monster. Don't have a big practical effects monster.
Starting point is 01:02:29 Have the villain be a guy in this boiler. Got the guy wears a mask. Cool. Where is it set in a location in a location that you can just drive to? So, Willie, I doubt you have this in the in the docket, but that's fine. That's the last horror thing I want to say is that with all the legalese surrounding Friday the 13th, someone is desperate to I love this shit. I want to make it LeBron James is producing a Friday the 13th reboot slash remake, but he can only do it with the amount of stuff that that writer
Starting point is 01:03:01 owns. So LeBron James will be making Basin Voorhees. Oh, weird. No, no, he'll be making Pamela Voorhees because that's what the writer owns. Oh, fuck that. That meh meh meh. Because LeBron James, I did not know is a huge horror mark. He dressed as Pennywise last year and was horrifying. I prefer Basin Voorhees.
Starting point is 01:03:24 Any any whiff of a hint of a fart about him being a big fan. Yeah, no, not until now where I'm like, why is he producing? I'm like, oh, he moved to LA to play for the Lakers, but to be in movies. And he made he made that. I promise school. And now he's making a space jam, too, for fuck's sake. Yeah. And he's doing the barbershop show movie of all time. OK, so he's just getting into media.
Starting point is 01:03:49 And he loves movies and wants to produce a Friday the 13th thing. But now Blumhouse, which is like the ultimate success story of like, we're just making whatever and oh, that hit, that hit, that hit. Oh, shit. Now we're megastars and now we're making this Halloween thing. They're like, we tried to get the rights for Jason. They're like, no, that it's too complicated. We tried we're trying to get the rights to whatever. Oh, let's get Halloween.
Starting point is 01:04:12 And now they they're like three hundred million dollars in profit or they will be or whatever. I saw a story this weekend that was like tickets to a Cleveland game were at a high of two dollars for for scalped tickets because that's how bad it got hot. And then there's a picture of the locker room and like they took the place where his his corner was.
Starting point is 01:04:38 Yeah. And they turned it into a towel closet. So they didn't even replace it with any one spot. They just made it a towel closet. So whatever. Nothing. He's making a new Friday the 13th. I'm fine with it. Anyway. Pretty nice. Well, if you want to like ditch this YouTube business,
Starting point is 01:04:53 we should go into making horror movies. Oh, yeah. It's lucrative. Big lucrative. Yeah. Anyway, the money's in producing horror movies. Not in not in actually making them. Yeah. No. No. Higher other people to produce them to make them for you. Yeah. Aside. Aside from that,
Starting point is 01:05:10 that thing I wanted to mention, the one thing I did have some time to watch because I did want to watch Castlevania, but I went up watching because I saw how high the reviews were. The Chilling Adventures of Sabrina. Yeah, got released on Netflix. People coming out, going like, don't stab me, but this is better than the original.
Starting point is 01:05:30 I'm seeing very different than the original. Sany sitcom. Exactly. And Satan appears in this show. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So and that's the thing is like when we when we popped it on because we started to we finished making a murderer, too. And we started watching started watching like the staircase and stuff. Oh, I wanted to watch the staircase and like saw the ad for it.
Starting point is 01:05:51 And like, you know, my girl's like, oh, man, love Sabrina. What's this go about? Like, oh, there's no laugh track here. There's not. There's Salem. Salem's not what's going. No, I think demon. OK. Salem is a fucking demon. And then the and then going through it. I'm like, I'm and I'm seeing the rest of the trailer. I'm like, this is the Riverdale people, isn't it?
Starting point is 01:06:11 And then it's like from the makers of it. And I'm like, yeah, it sort of is. But I'm like, this is not even a sitcom anymore. But sitcoms are dead because because Riverdale is this weird bad version of Twin Peaks where it's like this town is has secrets. It's fucking Riverdale. It's got no secrets. I wanted a lighthearted, fun, well written. Archie, I think.
Starting point is 01:06:33 But it's not. It's trying to be like this deep dark secret secret of town. Like, fuck you. So what is the tone of Sabrina? Sabrina, it's like. It's it's it's weird because there's incredibly violent deaths. Oh, yeah. All right. Mixed in with jokes and stuff.
Starting point is 01:06:52 There's no laugh track. But like the remember the blonde woman that was all hysterical in Shawna, the dead. Got it. And she also played that like that like British assistant in Wonder Woman. You saw Wonder Woman, right? Yeah. Remember the one that was always trying to dress up
Starting point is 01:07:10 Gal Gadot like, oh, oh, no, take I'll take your sword from you. You can't be wearing that. She's on it for a little bit. She stars in this Miranda Otto, which I always give out for being having that that bitch with the huge eyeballs in Lord of the Rings. Oh, yeah, I know. Yes, sir. Yeah, she's in it, too. And they play her ants, whatever.
Starting point is 01:07:29 And it's very it plays it straight. But Sabrina's kind of having a little bit of fun. It actually looks similar to the old aunts. A little bit. I was surprised by that. It also a lot of Harry Potter in this where they're like, you have to forego your shitty human life and like, yeah, become one of our and you have to go to a fucking school. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:07:53 And I like that because I like Harry Potter. So I watched three episodes. I was pretty. Where is this? Netflix? Yes, Netflix, exclusive. And I was super into this. I kind of want to watch more. But I I've heard that they've there. There's send ups to like, this is our like Twilight Zone episode.
Starting point is 01:08:13 This is our The Thing episode. This is our like, there's going to be episodes that kind of pay homage to like horror things of the past. I know this is weird, but I'm going to say it's OP is pretty lame. It's you calling it an OP. I am calling it an OP. Look in my eyes. It's an OP. There's animation.
Starting point is 01:08:33 There's like a little credits list, but it's kind of nothing. It's just it's got no there's no theme song per se. It's just kind of like Halloween generic music track. But I enjoyed what I saw. I I I as as far as I've seen, I recommend it because yeah, there's practical effects. There's guys in rose suits. Satan's in it.
Starting point is 01:08:55 It's it's pretty fun. I think I remember back when this first like came out, I saw a post on Twitter to crack me up, which was that they should have replaced the in in universe Salem with the old TV Salem so that Sabrina would be running back inside from fighting a horrible monster drenched in blood and there'd be a big fat fake cat suit going to me. Hey, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, just like just garfielding it.
Starting point is 01:09:25 Yeah. No, I garfielding it in John Carpenterland. Yeah. Oh, boy, Sabrina. That was a big scary Satan. I only only saw it like like the start of it. It's like Salem only talks when he's not in cat form. And even then, he's talked very, very little aside from that. It's just cute black cat and everyone's into him. They're like, oh, wow, look at that.
Starting point is 01:09:46 That's that's awesome. It's a cute kitty. But yeah, having read some of the really creepy, weird Sabrina like comics that have existed. Well, yeah, I'm very sorry, but you're whistling into the thing again. I'm not sure what is up with your nose today. Um, yeah, I kind of recommend this show, especially if you're kind of even interested in like a fun, a cult thing.
Starting point is 01:10:08 Like it's not like super dark or whatever. It's a little bit, but it strikes the balance pretty well so far. And there's like a lot of Harry Potter in it, like I already said. So that's me. Cool. Um, yeah, let's take a quick word for my sponsor. Let's do we have an ad break. Yes, let's do that. OK.
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Starting point is 01:13:51 I really wanted to go through injustice to story mode because I started it. I'm like, this looks incredible. Yeah, I saw I popped in Max's stream a long time ago when it was new and I was watching for about half hour. So it's nuts. That's one of the main reasons why everyone's like, I want that M.K. now because I want their upgraded facial. That looks that looks probably best.
Starting point is 01:14:11 Is probably more combat is about a third of the cast wears masks. So like, yeah, what are you going to do? What are you going to do? One day, one day, a fighting game will figure it out like and just banging. More combat than I did. It did. But it is. But it was a thing at the time. We were like, this is so much better than other fighting games.
Starting point is 01:14:32 But also, this is really stupid because soul natives and shit. Whatever. They just they just kick that motherfucker. I was soul NATO and he's done like Mortal Kombat is Mortal Kombat 9 is still the most successful in the dumbest way possible. And I'm saying we've yet to see successful in a legitimately good way, you know, I don't know. That's why I think that was legitimately good.
Starting point is 01:14:56 The baffling thing is that Mortal Kombat X is wasn't as good and shorter, not even close. But at the end of the day, it was going to be shorter because it was encompassing one game, whereas M.K. Now is encompassing three and a bit of four. So I thought all the the well, we talked about this already, but like all the all the combat kids stuff was fine. Yeah. And Takeda was cool.
Starting point is 01:15:18 But like the ridiculous dropping of the ball with everything about Kotal Khan almost like Nikali. Almost identical. Almost new bad ass fight. Kali got away worse. New new bad ass fight, man's turns out to be nothing. Ancient Ogre tight. Kotal, you needed to read the M.K. Comics. Yeah, I did.
Starting point is 01:15:38 Kotal does a bunch of crazy ass shit in there. No, you didn't. The M.K. Ten comics. Yeah, I totally got those. Finish them. I read the whole prequel thing about because I wanted to know what the deal was. Well, you did it. I didn't think you did. I 100 percent did.
Starting point is 01:15:53 I bought two of those volumes that I stopped because it was so awful. I super read. Beat up some of them. Goro, man's because he's so strong. You remember that shit? I remember that shit. What's up? All right. So, hey, let me ask you guys.
Starting point is 01:16:09 How do you like fake fuck anime location name? Just like it. Like how do you like? Oh, God, you saw a village of low interest rates. Yeah, no, but like, OK, remember when we were all like, I imagine you saw JoJo part four episode four or everyone's chuckling over that can of spread, which is a fuck of knockoff sprite can. Like I love that or like brands.
Starting point is 01:16:37 I thought you meant locations. I mean locations, but it can be anything. I'm talking about so many TVs and bepes drink. Yeah, because the location version of this is I'm talking about Hunter Hunter here is the most blatant I have ever seen because it is a whole arc that takes place in York, New City. Jeez. And it's just New York.
Starting point is 01:17:03 It's literally just. So are they pretending that the world of Hunter Hunter is not her? They're not pretending anything. And I mean that in both directions. The countries exist as locations to be gone to when it's cool. And that's fine. So anyway, I mean, like, like Gundam just says Earth and Quebec and Australia, dude.
Starting point is 01:17:31 OK, the main is gone from Whale Island. Done. Where is that? Shut up. OK, Killa was from the mountain. Where is that? Shut up. Liorios from his country.
Starting point is 01:17:45 Where is that? I don't know. I don't think he's ever mentioned it ever. Where's Meteor City at over there? They don't even tell you a direction. They just say Meteor City is over there, whatever. It doesn't matter. Whatever, shut up.
Starting point is 01:17:59 So York, New New York, New City. That's the location. Anyway, there's a big arc that takes place there. It's awful. It's very awful, but I love it. Big arc takes place there. Really fantastic. Super dark, especially in comparison to everything before it, which is
Starting point is 01:18:18 more or less happy go lucky, like Dragon Ball. Like, you know, like it's not quite Red Ribbon Army, but it's like it's there. You're not as worried in the first couple of arcs about people getting like horrifically dismembered or shot in the mouth or decapitated and puppeted or whatnot. Here, all of a sudden, everything is edgy and chains and mean and evil and mafia. It's great with one big problem that I can't stand. And it like granted, this is an earlier anime or earlier manga.
Starting point is 01:18:55 It's like the mid 90s, but like I'm getting really, really, really, really tired of the very it's like a joke of like. A bunch of high powered characters fight each other to a draw and then go, oh, no one was actually trying to kill each other. We'll never know how this would have gone and then leave. Like it sucks. It's it's the worst anime stillmates. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:19:24 It's like the best stalemates to the point where characters are asking, like, who would have won that fight? I don't know. I think I would have maybe wink, leave the country, like just disappear from the story. Very annoying, incredibly unsatisfying. The pacing is a little odd in that storyline because it's all about revenge and murder.
Starting point is 01:19:45 And then you sidestep for about 15 minutes every hour to talk about auctioning and the tricks that you would use to auction or appraise items. What the fuck you what? It's what does that have to do with anything? Well, it has to do with everything. Auctions. Yes. The reason why all the OK, fuck it.
Starting point is 01:20:04 I'm going to just I'm going to set the fucking archive. I mean, like the reason why there is so much crime in this particular area and arc is because there is a mafia auction occurring for big money. Some characters want an item from there. Other characters are just there for revenge based motives. So you have the revenge storyline, which occupies about 90 percent of the whole arc.
Starting point is 01:20:25 But then you have the other characters who are not involved in that at all, but happen to be in the same location, literally going from storefront to storefront, having wacky adventures about buying items. Got it. It's a weird, it's weird, totally. It's as weird as it sounds. And then you get to the end of that arc
Starting point is 01:20:45 and I have never seen a show do this ever. Use this word. You get to the end of the arc and then the narrative announcer, you know, the guy who talks to you about the next episode. In this show, it's a little different where they go, I can't believe it's it's almost like an old timey Superman or Batman thing. Like, how is Batman going to get out of this? They will literally say so and so is very upset.
Starting point is 01:21:08 How will they deal with this? Whatever you get to the end of this. And they go next week on the show will be starting the Greed Island arc. Right. Just out, out and out. But like it when they do that, it doesn't even feel like the current one is done. But I guess it's done. I guess it's finished, which is very weird.
Starting point is 01:21:29 And then you can feel you ever read something and you can feel the author is tired of the thing he was writing all the time. Right. Yes. Like they're just like so bleach. They they they have been building this up for a while. And then they just go, you know what? From this episode onwards for however many chapters, it's an isekai. It's a it's a trapped in a video game. Do you die in a game? You die in real life.
Starting point is 01:21:57 And we're going to leave the entire universe and world behind. That's terrible. And we're just going to transport about 10 characters in with you. And it's going to be a completely different fucking show for that until they leave. Wow. And they have a fucking AI robot explain the RPG rules about how you turn items into cards and use cards to use. Now, are you saying that Hunter Hunter was the first isekai?
Starting point is 01:22:22 No, it can't possibly be the first isekai. I'm saying it's the first popular isekai in anime. No, the first popular isekai was like the Freddie Prinze Junior movie. All right. Yeah. You know what? Game over. But like they just completely fucking gives up. There's a character goes, hey, what about your revenge? You're not done.
Starting point is 01:22:39 And they go, I'm tired and they leave. And they go, what about you? I'm going to go study in university by I've now left the story. What about you two idiots who are left? We're going to go to a different anime for about 40 episodes. But it's good, though. It's great. It's absolutely fantastic.
Starting point is 01:23:01 And the Naruto ripoff potential grows every day. You remember I joked about a Sasuke retrieval arc a while ago? You did. That character now has lightning hands. Oh, God. Wow. Wow. Yes. OK. So Sasuke is OK. Sasuke is what a guy.
Starting point is 01:23:25 He's got red eyes. Yep. He can he got lightning hands. Yep. He loves revenge and he can copy people's moves. He's got a unicorn. He's also got fire. Yeah, but I'm going to use those four elements, right? A sword. All of those elements are cribbed from three different characters.
Starting point is 01:23:42 There's the guy with the red eyes who loves revenge. There's the guy with the lightning hands. And then there's a guy who can copy moves. And then they all just got stolen into one character. We can do this with all showdowns, though. Yeah, but this one's really blatant. In reverse. Like, if I was watch, if I if these came out in reverse order,
Starting point is 01:24:02 I'd be like, wow, they just gave Sasuke's to everybody. But no, no, it's the opposite. So there's eye powers. Yeah, there's everything. All the powers. There's all there is the it's just stands without a stick. It's like part seven stands where it's just like, hey, what can you do?
Starting point is 01:24:22 I can copy things. Hey, what can you do? I can put things in a blanket. What? No, there's a guy can put stuff into a blanket. It makes it smaller, large. We can like steal your car or whatever. And just any anything, anything they want.
Starting point is 01:24:39 Super high quality, but the jump to a completely different. Everything makes me feel as if like the writer just wanted to start over and do a different thing entirely. What? How many? How many are you? This is 60 ish. OK, probably the most interesting thing about the only ongoing story arc that is maintained is that are you aware what God's actual purpose for anything in the show is?
Starting point is 01:25:05 He's got a fucking. I always think of God. Yeah, it's well, it's gone. I here's what I know about because it's it starts off lame and gets funnier the longer you go. I know that he has a fishing rod and I know that he wants to be the greatest hunter ever. Like his daddy. No, that's wrong.
Starting point is 01:25:21 Actually, he does have a fishing rod. He doesn't actually care about any of that stuff. He wants to know who his daddy is, OK, because his dad's deadbeat and just bailed out. Yeah. And every time the story gets to a point where they're like, oh, cool, we found an item of gang or a message from gang or whatever. The message is I don't care about you. Stop, stop, stop.
Starting point is 01:25:47 Don't try to find me there. This is not a clue to my location. Good luck with that, I guess. Wow. Like just full deadbeat. And the best part is, is that the dad is in the intro and outro. But his his appearance is not consistent because I don't think they even know what he looks like. Like his clothing, his look, change
Starting point is 01:26:16 because whatever, he's not around. He's just a deadbeat. It's it's no backing, but sure. Well, what could be back? It's there's something special about like dad left me a clue and then a 40 episode journey to find out what's written on the thing and what's written on the thing is off. I don't know if you thought this was going to help you find me
Starting point is 01:26:40 because I don't care. Right. I mean, so my dad left me a clue and I have to spend like what, two years of my life trying to figure it out. But, you know, after a tachy and all the build up in that direction, I don't even know what ended up happening with the tachy. I don't know. Didn't that just fizzle out? A tachy all along. No.
Starting point is 01:27:03 Oh, was he a good guy all along? So, you know, anything is possible. That's that's the worst. That's the worst thing I've ever had. There's a lot of stuff that's not possible, though. You think about it. Yeah. Yeah, all in all, show still remains high quality. Um, and aside from that,
Starting point is 01:27:22 I mainly played a bunch of Red Dead, which did either of you touch that game at all at all? No, but I would have mentioned it if I had. I watched a friend riding the horse around and watch hilarious like Twitter videos. Yes. Yes. And they had they basically had to say that, like, boy, this isn't web swinging. No. No, it's not. I don't think you should those facts.
Starting point is 01:27:47 And the friends that were playing it, like they they also said, like even for not web swinging standards, the pace is glistening. So that is actually what I wanted to talk about the West, because there's a lot of that. I mean, you we all played Red Dead one, right? Yes, I did. OK, you didn't play it at all? No. OK, so I'm playing like over 20. You played a bunch of it.
Starting point is 01:28:05 So, you know, Red Dead one had a very slow pace as well. It did. Now, take the slowest paced game you can think of. Red Dead. Now, slow it down. The first one was even slow to the first one was slow and people complained and then they decided to take that and be like, let's crank it down to negative 11. Cool. It is. OK, this is going to be I've I've been pouring a lot of time into it.
Starting point is 01:28:30 I think it's fantastic. So I'm going to use a possibly hyperbolic metaphor here. Do you remember when you watched the did either of you watch Breaking Bad upon release or did you get it to later? Yes, I was I was watching it as it came out. Did you watch it later, Matt? I watched a bit later because I watch it much later. And I remember watching it and being like, why is a show this slow?
Starting point is 01:28:52 Actually popular because I know everyone hates slow stuff. Everybody needs their quick release action. And Breaking Bad is glacial compared to most other dramatic season to season was torturous. Yeah. Red Dead feels like that, where it's like, I can't believe they made a game where everything takes this long. And if you can dig it, it's fantastic. But it feels like you remember playing Breath of the Wild
Starting point is 01:29:23 and the weapon degradation and the hot, cold stuff and all that. And I was like, you had this thought of like, this is probably about as far as they could push these kinds of elements in a mainstream game. Yeah, it goes super fast because it's sim, but it's like fast and arcadey. That is not the bottom of the scale closer to a sim away from arcade. That's now the new top of the scale, because Red Dead is the actual bottom of the scale. That's fucked up. Now, Westerns are slow.
Starting point is 01:29:55 Yes. And like, if you go watch like any of those old fucking four hour. They're paced real slow. So I understand that this is like that. So I have a couple of examples that I thought long and hard about to use. The number one is the movement speed. It's it's it's fucking unbelievably slow indoors. You cannot run that bugs me in Assassin's Creed, where I'm like, I wish I was just a little bit faster, but I can imagine it's way worse than this.
Starting point is 01:30:27 And in on your horse, your horse doesn't even move particularly fast either. I kind of felt your horse met away like went fast enough in the original Red Dead. I was happy with that fast travel once you've been to a stage coaches. You pay pay five bucks to fast travel somewhere. If the stage coach is there, five in game bucks. That's correct, which is approximately like I want to say like four hundred dollars today. Five bucks is not trivial, but it's it's the kind of thing where it's all these little pieces moving together.
Starting point is 01:31:00 So it's impossible to talk about that game without talking about like the bounty system, because everything leads into it, your wanted level, essentially. It's really easy to commit crimes. It's even easier to commit crimes by accident. Again, in Assassin's Creed, there's no one around. But for some reason, I'm being pinned to steal. I am stealing. Yes, I will admit that.
Starting point is 01:31:25 There's no one in the room with me. How do they know I'm stealing? Yeah. So in Red Dead, it is based on people around morality. No, it's not. There's bounty hunters that get released in Red Dead. They have a system in which your bounty is caused by committing a crime, having somebody see that crime, fine, and then have somebody report it to authorities. Oh, geez, wow, which leads to commit a crime.
Starting point is 01:31:49 Somebody sees you run after them, deal with them in some manner, not necessarily violently. You can just threaten people. Some people when you threaten them will go, yeah, totally. And you'll you think you'll succeed in the the threaten prompt to stop the witness. And then they will go until law enforcement anyway. But the reason why the slow movement, particularly in towns, works is because bumping into people has the reaction that you would expect,
Starting point is 01:32:17 which is get fucked. Why did you bump into me? Yeah, especially if it's with your horse and a fist fight may ensue. And if the fist fight ensues, cops will arrive. And it has a feature that I only I rarely use because it doesn't click into my head, which is explain to the cops why you're not guilty of a crime by targeting the cops and hitting defuse. And it will contextually go, I don't know, man, I just found that body
Starting point is 01:32:47 to that guy started that fight. And depending on the circumstances, occasionally a couple actually believe you that you just found that body and let you go. The crime system is very difficult to understand because you would figure it, Matt, you remember putting a bandana over your face and Red Dead One? Yeah. And how that was supposed to protect you from crime repercussions?
Starting point is 01:33:09 It really didn't. Well, it didn't. But it did prevent your honor from going up and down. Yeah. Here it's the reverse. Where it won't prevent your honor from going up and down because you're still a bad person if you shot all those people. Yeah, I did. But I had to. Right. But it will protect your identity to a point.
Starting point is 01:33:27 And to a point is the problem that I've been having for a while, which is I put the bandana on. That's a huge change. Yeah, I put the bandana on. I put a hat on. I'm pretty inconspicuous. I shoot a couple guys on the train and it goes wanted Arthur Morgan. And I go, uh, that's what was the fucking point of that?
Starting point is 01:33:46 Only to find out earlier today on Twitter. Oh, it's because I'm wearing the same clothes that I always wear into town. It's because I rode the same horse that I always ride into town. It is obsessed with the sim aspects of everything is your car. So if you say it's like a green sedan, then people know. But the but you see, like that's that's smart and it's cool in the sense that it's like, OK, the details matter. But the thing wanted your name is still a video game name popping up.
Starting point is 01:34:14 Yes, but that is the result of the world's world sees the, you know what I mean? Like the only thing you're only thing that's telepathic is law enforcement. All law enforcement are telepaths with each other. Right. There are all these little details, but, you know, they'll try and capture you. But if you shoot one cop, they will stop trying to capture you ever. Stuff like that. It's difficult to talk too much about because there's all these little details that could fall away from.
Starting point is 01:34:39 But the number one biggest improvement by far over the first one. Matt, do you remember? Hey, there's a woman on the side of the road. Don't don't stop. I remember this. Yeah. Why? Because you'll fucking show ambush the shit out of you. And how do you know that? Because she's on the side of the road and she's alone.
Starting point is 01:34:59 And you've seen that how many times like five times the last hour? Yeah, that doesn't happen anymore. OK, well, they are there are repeating events. There are there is a guy who will challenge you to shoot some birds. There is a guy who needs a trip into town, but they have cranked up the amount of unique ones to about feels like 50 unique different ones, so you're not going to see them repeat in a sitting. Ever imagine.
Starting point is 01:35:25 And they have a couple variants. It's like, oh, this guy with a different voice actor has the snake bite versus this guy. So it's like, oh, doesn't that was so bad in the first game. There's a snake in my boots. So your how's your immersion? It's high. It's very high. And they force it to be high because I'm having a really hard time keeping my cowboy from being underweight.
Starting point is 01:35:49 But you remember CJ back in San Andreas? Remember playing fat CJ? Well, you have to feed your cowboy accurately. You have to sleep your cowboy well. It's there are many. It is a cowboy simulator cowboy. Come on. If Rockstar had not made this game, I would be baffled that it came out as a triple A title at all
Starting point is 01:36:10 because it it feels closer to like a fucking single player Daisy than it does to fucking GTA three or something like that or Saints Row. Like it is slow. It is it requires a lot of patience to play is what is what I would say. Now, can you affect how slow in the sense that can you main line if you want to? You there are a shit ton of missions. So yes, you can mainline it. But like how do I put this?
Starting point is 01:36:44 Can you be more specific as what you mean by mainline? Can you ignore all the other little side things to do around? Or do you have to do around your little deadwood town? OK, or or just walk to every exclamation. You mean feeding your cowboy? I mean, walking from exclamation mark to exclamation mark. That's actually and doing nothing else. Yeah, that will result in a very underweight cowboy with bad health and bad stats.
Starting point is 01:37:10 It will result with people at camp screaming at you to take a bath and eventually forcing your character to take a bath. Are there moments where the game goes, OK, that mission is done. Time to go fuck off for a while before the plot starts up again. No, there are a billion fucking missions and there are always one to do. And in fact, they've even gone to the trouble of recording different dialogue for almost every mission, depending on which missions you have already completed.
Starting point is 01:37:41 So if I had already gone fishing with the kid and then I go do the home robbery, they will be talking about the fishing and the kid during the home robbery. Like that it's the distinction between like that that that element of like, I guess I better swing around for a while until Dr. Octopus does something crazy that doesn't exist. There is always a little yellow dot with somebody's name on it that you would go to. But there's no JJ podcasts to listen to on your way. I forgot to say, I finished the Spider-Man DLC and that took me like three hours.
Starting point is 01:38:18 It was OK, but it's the setup for a larger. So it just kind of stops, but there's new collectibles. There's new types of side missions, but it was all right. But like, even in this DLC, I better swing around and check out the city. That's silly before Mary Jane calls me and there are some hilarious calls. In fact, I think there's a moment in the DLC that's the funniest of the game where like it just involves Spidey and like one random hood, one random guy. And I'm like, that's worth this DLC to see in that moment.
Starting point is 01:38:55 But that was just a small that was just like, yeah, a slightly less than three hours, like two hours and 50 minutes. And it's weird that even in that they'll go time to swing around and check things out. But you're saying Red Dead is just like, there's no time for that. Well, OK, let me let me describe because Willie's asking about mainlining missions. Yeah. And you kind of do that naturally. So I'll try and I'll try and explain the general flow of the area. Right. So you're at camp and you have a mission in town with John.
Starting point is 01:39:28 By the way, John Marston is a massive, big, important character in this. You hang out with him all the time. They got his voice actor back. It's great. Good. Cool. Because most rock star voice actors are always pissed. He is also a massive deadbeat and everyone fucks with him about it. Good. OK. So the trip to town takes like two or three minutes because it is far on the way to town. You will either meet a random person who will have some kind of little
Starting point is 01:39:53 sidey thing that will not divert you significantly. You will see a high, a high quality animal that you might want to shoot or eat, which you should do at least once every 20 minutes so that you literally don't starve or lose all of your health. The old West was hard. Right. Then you will go to the then you will go to the area. You will do the side. You will do the mission.
Starting point is 01:40:19 The mission will take you to a different part of the map. It will take you very far away. At the end of the mission, you will be very far away. You will you will then be in, say, the Emerald Ranch area. What do you do? Do you go all the way back to the can to do the next mission? Or do you rob that guy? Or do you go back and then run into a different random encounter?
Starting point is 01:40:40 So what have you? No. There is very, very limited fast travel, but it is expensive. It is it is it is there for when you absolutely need it. But the game highly, highly discourages you from ever using fast travel. OK, the the comparison that my friends that were playing it were making was they're saying that, like, it's like prior to playing this, they're playing The Witcher. Yeah. And we're feeling that, like, they're like,
Starting point is 01:41:08 they thought that thing took its time. No. And this is I literally don't know what to compare it to. Because it is the slowest video game. And and like it sounded like I'm like, so what's your take here? And it sounded like they were like, this is getting annoying, you know? So I imagine when you're saying it's the slowest it's ever been. That's a polarizing thing.
Starting point is 01:41:32 It is very polarizing, because I and some friends of mine that are playing it, we really dig it. Like, I really dig like wandering around in the ass end of the map, trying to find rare animals and taking my time. I blew, I think, 70 minutes playing one poker game in Red Dead, because I was not going to leave the table until I busted everyone out. Yeah, I like that.
Starting point is 01:41:58 And I only made $13, but fuck it. I busted everyone out there. And now characters are actually talking about, oh, I heard you fuck those guys up at poker over at the fucking ranch. Yeah, great. And in Assassin's Creed, I remember playing Deadman's Morris for a while because I just dug that. So yeah, that's cool. So on top of that, so the game is quite slow.
Starting point is 01:42:19 They also add a lot of little things to break up any time periods that you see that you would get stuck with nothing to do or traveling. There are 90 in game challenges that are done by a little log, and they're all divided in their little categories, stuff like hunt three deer, get three perfect rabbit pelts for the hunting. Right. The horses like jump a certain amount of obstacles or drag a guy a kilometer behind your horse. Well, to get to get to get a fucking,
Starting point is 01:42:52 which is more difficult than it seems because if people see you, they don't like it. I just did one for the bandit tree that is Rob four stores in one day, which is really difficult. And those will get you little upgrades and stuff like that. So they what they've done is they've the main missions are all very far apart and take forever to do. And they have in that middle part, given you all these random shit, random things to do, random things to steal, challenges to complete,
Starting point is 01:43:20 shit to hunt, stuff to eat, cowboy health to manage, et cetera. So that you're always actually doing something. You're always engaging with it, but it's all slow, slow, slow, slow, slow. Like probably the best example is hunting. Matt, you hunted all sorts of shit in Red Dead One. I'm sure you hunted raccoons, armadillos, foxes, deer, et cetera. You remember how you did that? You just ran up to it and you shot it and then you fucking crouched down
Starting point is 01:43:50 and then Marston goes, eww, nasty and gross and cuts it up in a three second animation that's like from the camera up at him. And then you would trade in 10 of those deers for item, right? In Red Dead Two, they teach you how to hunt. First, you go into Eagle Vision. I shit, you know, it's called Eagle Vision, literally. Is it actually dead eye and eagle eye? Dead eye, wasn't that eye from Red Dead Revolver?
Starting point is 01:44:16 I believe so. I think so. Yeah, dead eye was from the first game. But it's called Eagle Eye. And then you use Eagle Eye to look at the tracks. Then you follow the tracks. Then use Eagle Eye to see where the stink is coming off your cowboy. Because if the stink lines, I shit, you're not point towards the animal.
Starting point is 01:44:31 That means you're downwind and they will smell you and run away. So then you stink. Yeah. So you have to alter your cowboy trajectory. Then you have to use your binoculars to study the animal, say a deer. Then in the description for the deer, it will tell you what weapon you need to get a clean kill on it. So for example, a deer would be a high powered rifle.
Starting point is 01:44:51 Then you shoot the deer in the face. If you did all that correctly and it was a high quality deer, which you can also tell with your binoculars, you run up to the deer and skin it. The skinning animation is like 25 fucking seconds long. Shut up. Yeah, it's crazy because it is the most violent in-depth skinning ever. You cut the zipper on the fucking deer. You watch as he peels the whole thing off the carcass, rolls it up, and then you
Starting point is 01:45:17 walk over to your fucking horse and slap it on the horse so that you can trade it in. Then you take that perfect deer carcass over to the one Canadian guy in the game because he's a mountain man trapper dude, sell that perfect deer pelt to him, and then you can make rare gear with it. Point being is that back in the day in Red Dead, you would go, I need to kill 10 cougars. So you would go into the mountains and you would just shoot 10 cougars with a dead eye. Here, you're like, I need one perfect cougar pelt, and it'll take you the same amount of time, but instead of riding around just gunning down
Starting point is 01:45:51 everything in the forest, you are now spending the exact same amount of time tracking one animal and hunting that one animal properly. So really there's no difference? Yes. Ultimately. Ultimately in time, there's no difference. They've taken it. You're doing less things more in-depth over a longer period of time.
Starting point is 01:46:09 It's a good decision. I like it. I dig it, but I can see it. I could, you know, how people bounced off Breath of the Wild because of weapon degradation. Lots of people are going to bounce off this game based on everything. Like there is always something that the devs put in that, how do I put this? You ever heard the term that players can optimize the fun out of a game? No, but I can't do that here.
Starting point is 01:46:37 I think it's a Deus Ex developer or something like that. I understand immediately what that means. And like the game will have none of it. It is all, it is all development top down going, we know what's best for you player. You're going to do it this way. You don't like what you think you like. Yeah, exactly. And I can see tons and tons of people just being like, no, fuck this.
Starting point is 01:46:59 I came for Cowboy Bang Bangs. Yeah, exactly. Like there's a, I've been reading threads about people just pissed off at the bounty system because it's punitive and strict and has all these different factors when what people really want to do is just put their mask on and shoot everyone in town and go, haha, I'm a cowboy. My biggest question though is that this is all at odds with the first game. No, it's not.
Starting point is 01:47:22 So how much of this is actually a rude awakening for someone who came off the first game doing Cowboy Bang Bangs? The problem is the first game was like eight years ago. Yeah. And there have been, but it was definitely popular enough that it didn't have this type of simulator blowback. So it did. It just wasn't as strong as the simulator stuff wasn't as strong.
Starting point is 01:47:42 They didn't push it as hard. There were, so I remember vividly reading threads about people saying, hey, if you shoot an animal in Red Dead One and then park your horse on top of it, you can skip the skinning animation because the horse will bug out and not let you skin it. Right. Oh, nasty. Yeah. People hated it.
Starting point is 01:48:00 People like there are a bunch of people that bounce off Red Dead One because they couldn't handle the long distances or stuff like that. And for this game, Rockstar just doubled the fuck down. People like that stuff. You constantly run into features that don't mean anything and are kind of cool. But you're like, oh, you didn't get to see your kids for that weekend because this feature is here. It's very obvious.
Starting point is 01:48:23 It's very clear when you're seeing horse testicles shrink and you're seeing the amount of animation work they've put into like playing dominoes. You're like, these things aren't important. I don't think they even add anything necessarily to the game, but I can tell somebody worked a long weekend because of it. That this is all very not triple A in terms of like. It's ironic because it's asking that much of the most expensive game I've ever seen produced ever, like in terms of like assets and animation.
Starting point is 01:48:53 But asking that much of the player, you want to have the guy who's you want to have, you want to get the guy who's like playing a session between like Jim fucking pumps, you know, I kind of just want to get you remember Brucey from GTA five straight alpha. Usually people cater to Brucey is like, yo, straight alpha on the biggest cod blops man for triple A games. That's what that's it. And this is this is like a game.
Starting point is 01:49:20 It's almost like, man, if my dad was 20 years younger, he'd really like this game because this is a cowboy game for my dad. But now I'm my dad now. So it's for me, I guess try. Try. This is the kind of set him up. And this is the kind of the controller his hands are ruined. All his fingers got exploded in the industrial accidents. Remember, but like this game, more than any other game,
Starting point is 01:49:48 makes me lament the lack of like real rentals in today's market because there's going to be some and there's no PC version either. So the refunds are going to be tough to get out of really a thing. There are a lot of people that are going to buy this or get it for their their nephew or or their their niece or their sister or whatever. And just like they're going to bounce the fuck off it and be like, this game sucks. I hate it. Why does it take so long? Why can't I shoot everyone?
Starting point is 01:50:14 Well, I can't I shoot everyone. That's like the slimy life right there. Think of every GTA or Red Dead release of that nature. Yeah, Saints Row. And the very first thing people talk about is this game sucks because I can't just go on a massive shooting spree. So people complain about that in GTA four. So what you're saying is the title screen
Starting point is 01:50:35 should be press start new game and then arcade mode. Well, they may as well play like Call of War, Wes Gunslinger or Gun or not. You go to arcade mode and it just brings you to the title screen of gun. Two hours of tutorial. I spoke to I spoke to some people over the weekend because they're like, I just want to speed up the skinning animation. That's the only thing I want to do.
Starting point is 01:50:59 And like, it's not that simple because if you speed up this part or this part or this part, then that incentivizes this over that, over this, over that, over this, right? You press, you press, you press start on arcade mode and then the title just turns into Cowboy Bang Bangs. Yeah. And then you just start out in the middle of a gunfight. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:51:17 And you can teleport to your horse. Like even even the way they have made the health work in this game is bizarre and forces you to engage in these things. So probably the weirdest term that I said over the weekend was I have to fill my horse cores. Oh boy. Because, yes, your core, that's the in game terminology because the way your health and stamina for you and your horse
Starting point is 01:51:40 are limited or are visualized is a core. And the way that it that works is that you have your health. Let's say your health is one to one hundred, right? Your core is your reserve health of one to a thousand, let's say, right? When you deplete half of your regular health, it will fill in with reserve from your core health, right? Yes. Your core tanks will never regenerate unless you eat or sleep
Starting point is 01:52:07 or regenerate it with items. So to ask to answer more in depth earlier, well, you said, can you just mission to mission it? You will eventually hit a point where you are out of health. You have you have you are out of stamina. Yeah. And you smell and the game is like, well, I guess you're fucked that you can. You're too smelly for this mission.
Starting point is 01:52:26 You can mainline it if you if you do the bare minimum. Yes, you can. Yes, OK. All right. It's a weird game. That's a that is a weird choice for it. It means it feels like it's not made to be popular with the expectation that it'll be popular anyway, because it's like this will be successful. So we can just do whatever the fuck we want.
Starting point is 01:52:46 Yeah, it honestly does feel like that a lot. Like, who cares? You know, you don't do that in a triple A game. People get mad and they go fuck them. We saw our number so we don't care. It's Rockstar. Yeah, they can do it. They can always they can make another table tennis.
Starting point is 01:53:03 This is probably the most expensive game I've ever played that I get to go. It's for me, but I can see that there's a lot of people it's not for. Sounds like stream poison. It was. I streamed it twice. And the whole time I had trouble keeping track of the hundred different mechanics that are ongoing. And then the game like I played 70 minutes of poker over the weekend in one sitting.
Starting point is 01:53:27 That's not good for streaming poison. That's bad. Yeah. Like you'll go out into the wilderness for 40 minutes to find one deer. It's a legendary deer, mind you, but it's one deer. A legendary deer is a deer. Yeah, you know, you know, it is good for streaming. That's right. Asses. That's right.
Starting point is 01:53:47 Giant asses. Android booty. That's correct. It's great for streams. I showed Willie some artwork he hadn't seen before. Didn't see it. It's good artwork. You guys look at a porn. What's it? It was Ivy. Oh, yeah, Ivy with the chest beavers and to be with the slamming into the ass
Starting point is 01:54:06 beavers. And yeah, they were just doing. Geralt didn't get that piece of art with like Mitsurugi. Did he? No, no, he didn't. Anyway, soul caliber six DLC character to be from deer automatic announced hot off me completing ending E. Yeah, that's for you. So the timing is quite a reward. Glory to mankind.
Starting point is 01:54:29 First, I'm honestly like almost more excited for her stage because her stage looks amazing. Um, and there's definitely going to be some wacky ass story like reason or whatever. But I do think it sums up nicely with a tweet that says like soul caliber character, like I'll fight you or whatever. To be replies with holy shit, a human. What the what the fucking fuck?
Starting point is 01:54:54 Oh, man, a human. That's the crazy shit ever. Wow. Yeah. That's a cool addition, man. That's a that's a character that has weapons that fit right in with the whole glowing, sigil spinning bullshit. It's weird that she has robots, but it's like you you fit in fine. Yoshi Mitsu.
Starting point is 01:55:14 Time travel through portals has already been established in soul caliber. We got you. It's it lightsabers exists. It's true. Why wouldn't all people? Why wouldn't your heart? Yeah, I'm looking at this and just based on the trailer, looks like she's getting the same love that Noctis got. Yeah, which is fucking rad.
Starting point is 01:55:38 So that's a good pick, man. That's a good pick. And I woke up to I am torn up. The phone in my face. I am so I my favorite part about this this announcement was that to be was so popular and so desired for this game that the announcement was confusing as to its veracity because I would you wake up and go check out to be in soul caliber and like, yeah, I've seen a hundred.
Starting point is 01:56:03 Yeah, exactly. Yeah. No, no. Oh, whoa, whoa, wait, what? Yeah. So believe it's like in the silhouettes, there's two other DLC characters outside of her. Yeah. Looking forward to the Emile head item that will then be on all all creative characters. Also, hey, Kira, why does Namco let you have two roles in soul caliber?
Starting point is 01:56:27 And that she's good. I had her alt as a kind a outfit because of course. Well, no, her she you can also make the before you buy. Wally, do not buy Red Dead. I need to Wally. Look at me. It's slow. Whoa, it's a slow game for slow people. It's just a thumbnail, but whoa.
Starting point is 01:56:50 Anyway, I'm torn as to whether or not I would have preferred like Hildi or something like that, like an existing character that I feel is missing from the roster. I'd like to think since the first DLC character was technically Tira, it would hopefully go soul caliber character, guest character, soul character. Honestly, I think I think everyone agrees like, yeah, bring Hildi back. She was a great character. Please bring her back. The biggest standout from that game.
Starting point is 01:57:12 Easy. And like, I it was one of those characters that I remember thinking like, oh, man, I'm the only one that's going to like Hildi and then it turned out every I don't like to play as Hildi, but I think she's amazing. And I thought I like everything because she's Casca. Yeah, I think I think she plays. I mean, I think she played a bit better in soul caliber five than she did four. But no one's no one's screaming for our goal.
Starting point is 01:57:37 You know, the only goofy thing. I forgot that character's name until you said it. The only thing that gets me is that it kind of bums me out when I see a fighting game and like a bunch of the characters on the roster. I'm like, well, this is the only game they'll ever appear in. Yeah, that's true, too. Which like, you know, we got Geralt, we got to be. We got Negan, all these classics.
Starting point is 01:57:55 All these. We need to give some love to to P. Yeah. Yes, which is black hair, dark skin, white costume, white outfit. So just invert colors in a way. Yeah, and it's hot. It's a good one. It's good stuff. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:58:11 You see nine s is actually in the stage, just way in the background, way in the back, sitting on a building standing. Well, it's because the stage is a real location. Yeah, it's near Pascal's village. Yeah. So it's literally nine s is just farther up the path and is hanging back. There's a couple of like on one of the little paths. Zoom in.
Starting point is 01:58:31 Is it way back? Is it? Is it the loading screen basically where you're overlooking the giant kind of? Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:58:40 The stage is great and the track is great. Father's server hanging around the corner. So hey, we're going to get another guest character. Another guest song better than every other song in the game. I really don't think they will. But it's like playing playing, even though I haven't like done any Soul Calibur six by myself really, it's like fucking guts should have been in Soul Calibur four. He's right.
Starting point is 01:59:04 Yeah, we should have been past this. That's true. I just had a I just had a silly little thought about like, oh, what would be another good guest character? What if they brought the fist tile back and put cure you into smoke? So we can Oh, magma. Magma and fence. Soul Calibur.
Starting point is 01:59:21 They'd be upset. Just, just, just, oh man. That would be actually upset. I'm upset now. It hurts. It hurts because you. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:59:30 That's a really mean move. Oh man. But yeah, we can see a screenshot here with the nine s hanging in the back. I remember that little like whatever weapon leak man at arms thing and like and like riding ride me a good thing would be a huge pop. Yeah, that'd be a pop. You know, super in the future.
Starting point is 01:59:50 Another robot with a sword with white hair. Another guest character with white hair and an eye bandaged up. Wearing black. Oh, so that'd be that. Platinum may I bet you I bet you like man at arms picture to be and thought it was. Yeah, right. And it would be our basically just the same character.
Starting point is 02:00:12 Yeah, yeah. One sexer than the other, but it's up to you. Yeah. About who is. Yeah, depends. Depends on the day. Depends on the morning. Yeah, right.
Starting point is 02:00:22 And couldn't self destruct and rather just have his ass. Rather Sam at this point, I would much rather have Sam. It's all right. That would be a cooler pick. No, no, but it would not be. I would not be the most I would be a popular. I'm now disagreeing with myself because Sam's moveset is already in the game as Mitsurugi.
Starting point is 02:00:41 It's it'd be pointless. A Sam outfit for Mitsurugi is a nice compromise. I agree. Yeah, man. Fuck yeah. Good stuff. What a what a pleasant Saturday morning. No release date so weird on the character. Well, it's got to be the next one.
Starting point is 02:01:01 Yeah, but I mean coming soon. But if you if you bought your season pass, I guess you'll you'll get it, which I did on camera. Oh, right. So. Yeah, so the PlayStation Classic confirms what we saw the other day. What do we have a list of 20 games, including Toshinden, Cool Borders 2, Destruction Derby 1, FF7, GTA, Intelligent Cube, Jumping Flash, MGS,
Starting point is 02:01:24 Mr. Driller, Auto World, Abe's Odyssey, Rayman, Ari, Director's Cut, Revelations Persona, Ridge Racer Type 4, ST, Siphon Filter, you mean? Excuse me, Super Puzzle Fighter 2. Not the fighting game. My brain just auto corrected. You'd be surprised how when I see those words, I see Super, a bunch of things and then Turbo, my brain just auto corrects.
Starting point is 02:01:49 Siphon Filter, Tekken 3, Rainbow Six, Twisted Metal Wild Arms. That is while not the best list of games possible. I think it's fine. That is a list that absolutely defines what I thought of as the PlayStation. There's a lot of things that are two or three years that'll give you a shit to do in your hotel room. There's like no Spyro, no Crash, no. Well, of course not.
Starting point is 02:02:10 Yeah, exactly. Well, of course not. This is ill timed. No Tomb Raider. No Tony Hawk. Tony Hawk, I'll be like, whatever, they can't get Tony Hawk. You have to pay for that music. I don't even think I was saying this to you.
Starting point is 02:02:26 I don't even think Activision owns Tony Hawk anymore. I don't even think anyone does. I think Tony Hawk doesn't even own himself. Siphon Filter is a great game. That's a good one to be on. The Rayman one. Seriously. Yeah, that one's a little weird.
Starting point is 02:02:40 That was a 3DO exclusive for like a year. So weird. And Rainbow Six Wild Arms one. Pretty cool Rainbow Six on the PS one. The best place to play. Wild Arms is a nice is a nice pick. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:02:56 Yeah, again, like I there's definitely other things that could have been picked here, but I don't I don't think anyone's going to look at this this list and poo poo it. I think the Japanese one has a way better that has parasite even Saga Frontier. Yeah. Well, OK, so it's better and then it's worse. Still a cool product.
Starting point is 02:03:14 I don't know what to tell you. Also, for us, the Japanese list has. Yeah, let's see what else for the three of us. Yeah, of course, we're going to dig the Japanese list more. We like Japanese games a lot. So it's launching on what does that say? The third of December. What? I thought it was launching this year.
Starting point is 02:03:33 That's a day before my birthday. That's crazy. So yeah, the Japanese. Oh, wait, the third of December this year. Let's see. We have a list or is it just going to show? And puzzle fighter turbo like no. Puzzle puzzle fighter as opposed to a proper Street Fighter, I guess. Yeah, that's I see Saga Frontier, Saga Frontier.
Starting point is 02:03:53 That game is awful. Where's wipeout? The Gradius, I think Ark the Lad is in there. OK, so there's some licensing stuff. I don't care for Ark the Lad. Gradius. Yeah, I have no strong feelings. Parasite Eve. Yeah, Parasite Eve. Weird that like Eve didn't get into the English one.
Starting point is 02:04:17 Yeah, localized. If it wasn't localized, it'd be like fine. It's also localized as me and Willie discovered badly. Yeah, some embarrassing lines in that. Yeah, armored core. It's not quite as bad as no armored. Armored for legend of good. Wow, that's weird.
Starting point is 02:04:35 That's super odd. OK, I guess licensing and just yeah, the individual companies probably just didn't want like the worst version of Resident Evil. Yeah, ironically, the director's cut the worst version. Armored Core is probably the biggest missing inclusion, I'd say. I'd say like for mainstream audiences like Parasite Eve. Can I take a second to talk about what a fucking travesty Resident Evil director's cut is?
Starting point is 02:04:59 We've talked about it before, but we'll talk about it again. So it's a re-release of the game with like a fucking battle mode, dual shock support, and supposed to have reintroduced the cut cut scenes, which it didn't. They actually didn't. They just fucked up and included the cut cut scenes again. But on top of that, they have all the music done over, which is just awful. It's so bad.
Starting point is 02:05:23 Especially the clowns farting in the basement for the fucking that's the basement theme. And now there's nowhere to get original RE1. What is the PS3 version of the original? Another director's cut. We need to play that. No. So here's the thing. I'm wondering. Great.
Starting point is 02:05:41 You got to emulate it. The PlayStation's life span was crazy long. Well, not really. It was more than four years. There's 96 to 2001 long or years. That's five really. Was it 96 to 2001 came out in 95? You know what, all right.
Starting point is 02:06:01 Yeah, maybe I'm just remembering. I think you're thinking of the PlayStation 2. Now, no, I remember I felt it felt like it continued to exist for a long period after that. It felt like it should continue as well. And PS2 was 2001 to 2006. So I guess PS2 just came out of the end of 2000 because I wanted to ask here. Pretty sure.
Starting point is 02:06:20 OK, well, 2000 to 2006, I was going to say that like so, you know, with the Nintendo consoles, it felt like they were concentrating mostly on early games and some later ones made it in. And in this case, I feel like the same thing. But I'm like, what's the latest release on this list? You know me, I love junky Toshenden. It's ridiculous.
Starting point is 02:06:40 Maybe Tech 3. That was how late were these releases? I was saying three was 97. OK, yeah, I can't think of it. You know, because basically like how all-encompassing is this list, like there's no it's twist of metal, not twist of metal, too. Yeah, because that's what that's what I was going to say is that, like, you know, some of the stuff that we're mentioning, right?
Starting point is 02:06:57 Like if I were to bring up, like, let's say Front Mission 3, yeah, like what year was Front Mission 3? It was quite a bit later. It was after Parasite 3 Parasite. So my questions are like, do they take consideration for how late the game came out? I imagine they do because when they put out the Sony PlayStation Classic 2, which will include the latter years of whatever, you know,
Starting point is 02:07:18 it feels as if there's there's an emphasis on the earlier releases as opposed to the later stuff for the nostalgia purposes. But yeah, that's the PlayStation Classic coming out this year. I don't know if I'm interested in that or not. A little PSA for everybody out there. Tell me your PSA. The Tetris Effect is getting a time limited demo, like in two days. What's up with time limited demos?
Starting point is 02:07:41 I don't get it. So you mean like the demo only exists from such and such a day? It will it's coming out on November 9th, but the demo is time limited until November 5th. So that's odd. You can play it for five days. Oh, Minisarro got a weird time limited demo over the weekend. Yeah, basically, it's like the demo is going to go away
Starting point is 02:08:05 before the game comes out. Yes, you know. But yeah, if you want to give Tetris Effect a shot like I do. Yeah, you're not going to buy that unless you try out the demo. I got to find out what if it sucks? I don't think it will. So that's just a thing. So I got a little bit confused the other day
Starting point is 02:08:26 when we started talking about the Mandalorian. Yes, because I was crossing wires in my brain with the Boba Fett standalone movie. Oh, no, well, that cross those wires, young wolves, that the Logan director was going to be mangled, was going to be working on. I think we even did a podcast story about him making that Boba Fett movie. So we did.
Starting point is 02:08:48 And then we talked about the Mandalorian and like we didn't put two and two together at the time. Why would you make a show based on a movie that's not out yet? But obviously that would mean that the Boba Fett movie is probably canceled, which is good. Yeah, I'd say so. If you're going to do the time frame that takes place after Boba Fett. Look, Star Wars people,
Starting point is 02:09:08 Kathleen Kennedy, whoever, I don't fucking know. Stop making these spinoff movies. Give me my Masters of Terrace Kasei movie. OK, so the beginning of what you said is good. I think the end of what I said is also good. I think the end is also maybe not as good as the start. You think Disney spent the billions that they spent to get the Masters of Terrace Kasei license?
Starting point is 02:09:36 Yes, what fucking nonsense that I walked back into. So the Boba Fett move cancel all these spite these Star Wars spinoffs and just make a Masters of Terrace Kasei movie. So what is happening is they're in the after solo flopped Disney's in the process of going, hey, maybe we shoved too much Star Wars at everybody. It's possible. And so they're re-evaluating. So, you know, the Mandalorian is going to be coming.
Starting point is 02:09:58 But that means that this is a standalone Boba Fett movie that was like talked about for a while now. I remember that. And it was in the rumored phase. And then it kind of got hard confirmed. And now it's getting more or less like soft canceled because it's like, what's the point? You're working on the Mandalorian as a TV show with John Favreau.
Starting point is 02:10:15 Why would you tell a story of Boba Fett, who is within the same lifespan of the Mandalorian? That'd be stupid. Very weird. So, yeah, they're saying that Mandgold is no longer attached to this project. He's working on his Ferrari versus Ford movie with Christian Bale and Matt Damon. Sure. And, yeah.
Starting point is 02:10:38 And in the process of putting this on hold, it's it's all Give me my Mara Jade movie. We're going to be holding off on all these Star Wars spin-offs because, hey, it's Star Wars. It's going to make its money. Just give it time. Except solo. Stop if you because like it'll like Star Wars is golden forever
Starting point is 02:10:59 unless you make people choke on it. You know. Yeah. I even thought back in the day that prequel trilogy was like being shoved down and was sort of super hard. But people have been so starved up until that point. It was like whatever. It was always a movie every two years or not. Because once the thing starts,
Starting point is 02:11:16 once the once the hype train starts, like it's really hard for producers to be like, OK, but now we can wait again. Because they'll be like, no, everyone's excited now. We got to get the money now. There's much of hype train for Star Wars stuff anymore. I don't feel it. I don't see it. I feel like there was our Force Awakens. There was. But then they fucked it up.
Starting point is 02:11:35 They fucked it up with the frequency, right? So going for six movies in six years is just going to piss everybody off. It's funny because it's the opposite thing that happened with games. When EA got the license, I watched a recent YouTube video that broke down like here's all the great Star Wars games over time. The instant EA gets the license, like we're down to like one game every two years and they're bad.
Starting point is 02:11:55 Yeah, it's a bummer. Like no one else is allowed to make any and they're not making any because it's too busy canceling them. Yeah, I'm fucking them up. Yeah, there's still a ton of hype for Star Wars. But it's just like you go from infinity hype to like there's a number now, right? Normal. And which is the worst type of hype.
Starting point is 02:12:16 Yeah. Hey, I'm excited. And the end and I can't sell that to him. And the worst part is, is that like people that are like, you know, excited for the main line numbers even, even if someone's like, I don't care about the other shit. I just want the main line stuff. You're diminishing how much people want to hear about that by putting out like things like Solo and and then Rogue One all in between
Starting point is 02:12:37 and given 12 months. Imagine if let's all pretend everyone knows it's a huge bad move. Everyone can see it. Let's all fucking pretend that in between the Lord of the Rings movies that came out every two years, there was the fucking Aragorn side story about what what Aragorn was doing before Fellowship of the Ring. Do you know what you do then? You release a video game just on that concept, which they did.
Starting point is 02:13:01 Aragorn's Quest. Yeah. And relegate that shit to games and other media. That's what they used to do. But they're now like, oh, well, why don't we just make another? That was actually a relatively successful way of doing movie in the off season. Remember how good the two towers I love that guy. What are you talking about? It's the weird dad actor that dresses up as Boba Fett
Starting point is 02:13:23 when he doesn't have the mask on. He's just some fucking asshole. Yeah. It probably would have helped if the quality wasn't so divisive. Yeah. On the movies as well. That didn't help anything. So there's that, too. There is that. Love that dad, Boba Fett, Boba Dad.
Starting point is 02:13:42 Yeah, Boba Dad. Yeah, good, good cancel, I say on this one. Good. That's a good cancel. Yeah. I applaud that cancel. So this is pretty fucking cool, but Limited Run made a deal with Best Buy to stock some limited run games. That's weird. That's big.
Starting point is 02:14:01 So Limited Run, originally just being the like online and cons order from their website to get your physical copies of games that you otherwise couldn't. You're now going to be able to pick them up at Best Buy, including things like Gulf Story and Yooka Laylee for the switch. Yeah, the Gulf Story box is really neat. But yeah, like Broken Age and that's very bizarre. Because it's only I thought they've been around for like 10 years. They've only been selling games for three limited run years.
Starting point is 02:14:33 Yeah. Well, they're that new. They just celebrated the third birthday. Wow, I feel like I've been hearing about them for so long. It's because of the frequency. It's also because Liam talks about them a lot. Yeah, I mean, I've been talking to them hearing off about other stuff in the future. But it's like, yeah, they just I don't know why they put out
Starting point is 02:14:51 so much versions of bad FMV games like Night Trap and Double Switch. I guess they must make money. But why you'd want to preserve those with the physical additions beyond me, but a whatever. Preserve your memories of Night Trap. But yeah, that's super cool. Oh, layers of fear. No, they will not be carrying layers of fear outlast or broken age.
Starting point is 02:15:14 Oh, man, I know. But I said layers of fear and I didn't know that even got a limited run. It got layers of fear will not be. That means it had one at some point in the past. Yeah, they sell it on their website, but just not for Best Buy. Not only did it have a limited run. It's also getting a sequel. Layers of fear, too, was announced.
Starting point is 02:15:38 Hey, good for them. We played layers of fear on the shitstorm, I believe, last year. It was very spooky. It was a good one. So the project was teased as a project. Millies. Melee. Melee. It's unclear how to say that. But yeah, they just announced the game.
Starting point is 02:15:58 It seems to take place on like a cruise ship or a boat. The scariest thing is Adam Sandler's there, which is weird because the first like game and its themes and even its name seem to be very linked to like the artists that you played as in the industry. But I guess it didn't mean the main game. I have like a canvas or something like that. Yes, that was its main gimmick. Yeah, OK.
Starting point is 02:16:21 Well, I'm looking at a horrifying monster pour out of a canvas. So. Oh, you know, OK, I get it. So the the the presentation, this trailer is very old timey moving pictures. That's probably the new layer instead of a layer. Instead of canvases, moving pictures. Yeah, it's good. Would you like to go to a horror picture show? Narrated by Tony Todd, one one candy man, which is, I guess,
Starting point is 02:16:51 kind of a thing, lethally candy man. No, the horror movie or the horror movie candy man. Different evil black guy, the black guy, the evil black guy. The head. He's got bees. Right. Yeah, he opens up his chest. He's just got bees. Do you have a hook hand? Yes, he does. OK, that's so.
Starting point is 02:17:08 So that's a slapped ash fucking villain right there. So he doesn't. There's no horror movie with a smiley face guy going. There probably is. Yeah, OK. And Dr. Giggles was Dr. Giggles back there is, but the horror dentist. Oh, man, I. He kills you by putting a blade in there in your mouth.
Starting point is 02:17:28 Yeah, he giggles a lot. And I remember seeing that one scene where like he like starts to operate on this this girl in the chair and like he puts the suction tube and then you see the suction and it's sucking out like whatever. My brains. Well, it's just sucking out like the stuff in her mouth. And then it suddenly starts going red and then you hear the screams and it's like, oh, Dr. Giggles.
Starting point is 02:17:49 I saw it as Dr. Giggles in comic books. Yeah. It was a good time. You should be in soul caliber. Yeah, why not? Why not? We live in an age of why not now. It's true. Speaking of why not. All right. Although this there's a clear answer.
Starting point is 02:18:08 Fear Effect Reinvented has its first screenshots. Oh, yeah, this is the remake and not the weird mobile. No, this is this is the remake of Fear Effect One. They released three screenshots of it. Give me these screenshots. I'm familiar with and these screenshots show you that they're remaking it and they're getting rid of the art style that Fear Effect is known for. So I'll show you.
Starting point is 02:18:28 So it's just normal shading. What is the point? So I don't know why I even remember that. We're looking at a screenshot of Hannah shooting a guy wearing a towel. I remember that specific area. What? I don't understand why you would take. You know what? I'm one interesting thing about the game. I'm just going to come out and say that it's the main appeal.
Starting point is 02:18:50 The art style is the main appeal of Fear Effect, and they're not using it for the remake. Fuck off. Thereby making it way less interesting to everybody involved. I think the little new game that they released a few months back, I think that might have been associated. Maybe it didn't sell well. It had a different. No, it had pseudo.
Starting point is 02:19:10 It was like a different style entirely. Fear Effect Sedna. Yes. And I remember we looked at it on the podcast as well at it. It had like a semi like cel-shaded look, but it was it was different, right? This thing, though, is just it's just a 3D game. And it doesn't make any sense why they did this, especially considering we're in a world with guilty gear, excerpt technology, not to expect that of everybody's time. Of course.
Starting point is 02:19:35 But Fear Effect is one game that would deserve like the cel shading to increase and become more awesome. Not less. It's like, I don't know. Okami, for example, that's going to be all that successful. So I'm going to put less work into it. Maybe that's it. It's a read. It's a read, though. You know, I know, like I said, like excerpt Okami. You know, there's some great examples of cel shading working
Starting point is 02:19:58 nowadays, and this game's main appeal is this thing. And you're like, let's just get rid of it like, OK, that's just going to make it. Yeah, that makes sense. Yeah, so silly. I don't get it. I don't get no one gets it. I don't get it. I should make double make crystal. Yeah, that'd be cool.
Starting point is 02:20:18 Let me cool a little talk like people remember it. I tell you what I do get. What do you get? Eurian address. Yeah. Aka Miss X from SNK Gal fighters. He bends the rules and is now announced for SNK heroines tag team frenzy. So SNK Gal fighters was I've made reference to this a couple of times, but it's the Neo Geo pocket color fighting game that they made.
Starting point is 02:20:46 That was basically SNK heroines before it existed. And it was all the King of Fighters Girls fighting. And the final boss was Miss X. And yeah, like they just brought Miss X back. And don't look too closely into their past. Leave it alone. And it's Yuri. But they also wear a Kyo costume that they hate to wear
Starting point is 02:21:09 because there's a Kyoko cosplay version of it as well. That's true, too. Yes, I'm fucking stupid. But it makes sense that like Yuri would be like the long dress type. Yeah, you know, like the it's binding his legs in a different way. Do you remember? Do you remember the? Do you remember the you hate the Kyo costume? Do you remember the the the thug girl from rival schools?
Starting point is 02:21:35 Project Justice, which girl? So she had the exact same type of outfit and then she had a face cover and then she had chains. Yes, yes, yes. Yeah, so it's like it's that type of thing. At least this is a fucking SNK character, unlike the last two. I don't get it. Yeah, I hate Kyo. Why did I dress like this?
Starting point is 02:21:55 If Yuri is trying to stay because because Kukri made it happen. You're trying to stay conspicuous. Why are you using the Yagami fucking family crest on your back? Don't look too hard, don't look too hard into my identity. Don't do it. But I'm here. I don't get anything about SNK heroines cross tag heroine battle. The heroine Kukri wants girls to fight.
Starting point is 02:22:20 Say heroin again. Heroine. I don't get a lot of things. Matt, I was definitely way not believing you when you first brought this up. But now as time has gone on, people do way not believe me. There's been lots that has come out. Yes, you say a lot of zany shit, man. Smash Brothers had a weird leak.
Starting point is 02:22:47 Hold on. Shut up. Don't spoil it for everyone. Nah, fuck those people. I'm just kidding. OK, well, Smash Brothers had a weird leak where it was like, unless this is the most elaborate thing ever. Matt, you told me about how there's a photo from a printing company in France that shows off the booklet that has art of the characters that haven't been announced yet.
Starting point is 02:23:09 And I'm like, that's just not. That's the stretchiest. That's not real. And then what happened was someone there's blacked out names on the top of the photos and people were able to see through the blacked out marker. Get the names of the people who were whose names were covered. Look them up on LinkedIn. Found out that they worked for specific publishing companies that were known to work with Namco in the past.
Starting point is 02:23:35 And that's why this has credibility now. So there was there was one. It sucks that that person's name got out there as a result of this leak. But that's why people are saying, hold on, this is probably. It's who cares. What are the leaks? It's fascinating because one of the leaks is Isaac from Golden Sun. And the reason why that lends credence to all this in general is that Sakurai apparently said that the God, what was it?
Starting point is 02:24:00 One of the recent reveals, they for Isabel, that was only supposed to be half of the reveal, but they could not, for whatever reason, do the second half of the reveal for circumstances out of their control. Well, Isaac has like earthquake powers and that direct aired like immediately after that earthquake, which would make sense that they would actually cut him from that presentation. Additionally, someone at an event
Starting point is 02:24:29 there was a smash bill that was being played and there was a video or whatever. It showed an item that was not being used, but it was a leaf, a little like seed. And it was just cut us, locked in a sphere. And that seed is very, very suspiciously looks a lot like the seed item that's in Golden Sun that grows into a vine. And people are like, well, the other thing about the list is that it is believable. It's not so wild as to be only said this. And I kind of agree when Gino is involved.
Starting point is 02:25:00 Any time very unbelievable fan fan leaning, you know, fan favorite leaning, they're doing a lot of stuff like that with this one, though. Yeah, I realize that. But it just until this name thing came out and again, sucks for the person that's probably lost their job over this. But when I heard Gino, I'm like, why are we doing this game again? But anyway, like Ken has been leaked multiple times. I'll believe the echo fighter, Ken.
Starting point is 02:25:28 That's not a stretch. So do you think Banjo-Kazooie is going to be an echo fighter of Duck Hunt Dog? No, because Banjo and Kazooie's moveset is based on them flopping around in modes. Yeah, I don't know. That's not. They're not. Also has literally said, yeah, we would love for if Nintendo contacted us about getting Banjo-Kazooie in there. That makes total sense.
Starting point is 02:25:49 I mean, Banjo was on a Nintendo console at a point, so it's still makes sense. So yeah, we've got Shadow the Hedgehog. That may I'll believe that Banjo, right? Isaac from Golden Sun. That's a nice out there pull that I think is cool. I have never interacted with the Golden Sun ever. But like every time Isaac comes up, I get the feeling that there's this huge fan base for those games that I never heard of.
Starting point is 02:26:13 There's a fan base for the battle music. OK, it's good. Yeah, it's one of those. Ken from Street Fighter. Shocker. Mock Rider. OK, that one. I remember seeing a fake standee of Mock Rider at a GameStop being the announces the dark edgy game for the Wii that was coming out.
Starting point is 02:26:32 Chorus Kids from Rhythm Heaven. I remember that being talked about for fucking Smash Four. That's it's not any weirder than Mr. Game and Watch, but not. But like the court, like the Rhythm Heaven characters, but like not like Elite Beat Agents or or no. That'd be too cool. Or or and and characters.
Starting point is 02:26:56 We get nine volts mom as a smash as a as a trophy. What about what's what you call it? Well, no, there's there's just trophies of Shibirobo already. Never mind. But yeah. Shibirobo, it should be a Gino from Super Mario RPG. You know, the only one that makes me that sounds so fan crawling. You know, like I. But at this point, like I said,
Starting point is 02:27:21 alien from twenty two years ago or however long it is. But it's Gino's a giant ass favorite from fucking Mario RPG. And I agree, that's an awesome pick. Gino's a badass. Also, they have established that I mean, Square is working with them on this right. So that that headache is gone. But yes, the blacked out name linked to a company that printed
Starting point is 02:27:43 manuals for Bandai in the past. So that lends a lot of credibility to this photo. You scroll down a little bit for me. Sure. There's more details here. Which part? Oh, yeah, there was a stage as well. There are boss characters listed as the monster hunter Dixie Kong. Oh, Monster Hunter and Dixie Kong were cut. No.
Starting point is 02:28:08 Oh, no. Can I get the Monster Hunters DLC, please? In a game that I'll actually play. What are you are you reading from the 4chan post? Yeah. OK. So yeah. The excuse me, there was a 4chan post that claimed this exact list of characters back in September. And they also included.
Starting point is 02:28:33 Yeah, like it was to say Dixie Kong, Ray one from Custom Robo, Monster Hunter, Necro's Necrozma from Pokeman, apparently, which Pokemon is that? Necrozma, Necrozma. Thanks, Bulbapedia. Oh, no idea what. That's a cool looking Pokemon. That looks like it's from Code Lyoko. It's a psychic ghost Pokemon.
Starting point is 02:28:54 It looks it looks like a weird cool thing. There are multiple types of Necrozmas. Read that read that paragraph right where your cursor is. It should be noted that Coro Coro previously reported Super Smash Brothers Ultimate would have 108 total stages. Only 103 have been revealed. If Shadow and Ken are eco fighters, it would mean that five of the new fighters are entirely new,
Starting point is 02:29:16 which lines up with the number of stages left to be revealed one stage per character. So yeah, still hard rumor phase, but we've got this blurry photo which people have started working on. And in it, there is the there is the extra. So it's the full on cast photo that we've seen so far with the lightning bolt in the middle. But the one that we've seen in the blurry photo shows some extra characters.
Starting point is 02:29:43 And everyone's been shifted around to like give them room slightly. So yeah, so basically like in between Yoshi and Samus is Ken and then mock riders down in front. You've got little room for Banjo Kazooie. He was I want to say like over there. Yeah, over on the left side. So so yeah, people have like found little spots for these extra characters. And right now that group shot is already
Starting point is 02:30:11 a fucking mess. Like I think that's what I think Sakurai wants you to feel like this is too much. I think Sakurai's goal is let's give you everything so that you will not just that, but I want you to feel like, OK, whoa, because every let's hit everyone's limit. Because probably the goofiest thing about this is I saw somebody go on like let's assume the leak is real. Here's what the character select screen.
Starting point is 02:30:39 This is this is Mugen and it's a nightmare. It's Mugen. Yeah. So that being said, we still live in a world where Photoshop exists. None of this is hard confirmed. But the fact that the company and the name involved are linked to a company that's printed before it does check out. I am a big fan of Smash Brothers continuing like keep everything like aesthetic.
Starting point is 02:31:02 I can't wait for Smash Six where you get 10 new characters on top of this shit. Just well, this is this is. Yeah, this has never asked me for anything again. And now you won't want to because you will all be exhausted. Yeah, well, right. I'm a big fan of Smash, new generation. There will be a smash on every new Nintendo console. So but I think no sane person.
Starting point is 02:31:28 And that like this includes all the all the wackiest Smash fans ever. Right. Oh, yeah. Everybody all the wackiest. No one will look at this list. And say moving forward, everything here must be standard. Actually, the wacky Smash fans are doing the opposite. They're cutting it down. They want like reset most of the roster cut back down to like I remember that
Starting point is 02:31:51 Smash Warner Melee and those people are fucking insane. I had a big old chat with Liam about that, actually. But but what's the takeaway? Well, it was just it would be hard to like not piss off half of the fans of this of the roster. But if Tekken does it and Street Fighter does it, I think Smash can do. Well, I think they can do it if it comes with a massive engine change. Yes, there by making it a reboot of the franchise.
Starting point is 02:32:18 As it is, like there are so many characters included. If you brought it back down to 20 people, like three quarters of people are going to have the character they play disappear. Like it's it's a lot. You can do it if the game changes and becomes something new. You know, if you really call this the last build it back up again. Yeah, totally. You call this the last of whatever Smash Brothers this is.
Starting point is 02:32:39 And then you turn it into something else. I do think that there is kind of a weird expectation that because Smash is like a celebration slash crossover bonanza that building it back up again will obviously lose just a shit ton of excitement because it's like say you build you say kick the roster back down. And it's like, look, we're bringing back. Donkey Kong or whatever, you know, like outside of people.
Starting point is 02:33:04 But what you also do is you just port this forward for a long time. And by and then you add because this is this is what people are. When people say, let's play Smash Brothers, this is what they talk about. I think they should just keep adding until the game becomes too disgusting to play. Like you go to the character select and it causes spontaneous vomiting. I mean, I like that. I like the sound of that. I like the sound of people who want everything in, even hitting their limit.
Starting point is 02:33:30 Yeah. I like, you know, like that, like that, that Yoshi's Island commercial where the guy, the fact that it blows up, like, yeah, feeds you characters until you don't want more. You know what I want? That we can stop making it. I did a deep dive a little while ago on on a long time League of Legends fans complaining about League of Legends
Starting point is 02:33:49 despite the fact that I don't play League of Legends. Yeah, because there is a very interesting complaint, which is there are so many fucking characters in League and it takes so long to play a match that it has become impossible to actually keep up with balance change. Yeah, yeah, it is actually impossible. So I remember talking to the BlazBlue guys when they announced Jubei and I remember like seeing, I remember I sat down with a dude
Starting point is 02:34:16 that was like, God fucking damn it. That's 48 more matchups to learn. Yeah. And it's like, holy shit, every time you throw one in there, yeah. And I mean, like, it's like, like, I guess, yeah, too bad for anyone who's playing these seriously and trying to like compete with them, you know. But yeah, man, this is silly. Yeah. And yeah, why not lean into it? Why not? How silly it is?
Starting point is 02:34:41 Yeah. Why not get Goku in there? Fuck yeah, Goku's now appropriate. Why not get like a Negan in? Yeah, yeah. Just just roll right in. I don't think he is having a roll right in. Except for what it is. Negan's never appeared on a Nintendo console. So it's it's gone from a no, there's was there a walking dead?
Starting point is 02:35:04 I think there was a walking dead game in the Wii U. I don't think he Negan would. I don't think that predates that season. Yeah. Smash Brothers has become the video game Oscars. But Negan hasn't appeared on any console. Smash Brothers has become the Oscars. And now you just need to like absolutely all right to it.
Starting point is 02:35:22 Let's be massive pieces of shit and make this problem worse. You ready? Let's assume this roster is real. And Smash 4 did get DLC. Pick one person that you want as DLC to add to this new roster. Add and add DLC to this new roster. Give me one more. Can I can I can I can we pick from the trophies or you can pick? You can do anything. Wonder Red. Wonder Red's a good choice, Matt.
Starting point is 02:35:49 While Luigi. I agree with that choice. I want to say Doom Guy. Trek. He's been on a. Yeah, you know what? Shrek has appeared in many video games. Yeah, put Shrek and Goku memes. You believe jump start jump jump force cut fucking city hunter. That's cool. That's weird. That's a cool.
Starting point is 02:36:12 And for us needs all the cool it can get. It does. What? The cane wasn't cool enough for you. No. No. Can share is cool. Damn. Uh, another PSA. There's a Mobile Suit Gundam battle operation to aka Gundam Titanfall. Yeah, is free to play on PlayStation 4 in English.
Starting point is 02:36:34 So go try it out if you're down for Gundam. I mean, let's be real, it's not Titanfall, but it's like Gundam style Titanfall battles, six on six Gundam fall. And yeah, you get your little pilot and then you can do you can do mounting, you can do like, you know, space battles. Mount is whoever you want. You can do that. Like that's one thing it has that that Titanfall does not is like
Starting point is 02:36:58 actual space battling and pilot to pilot space battling. Boy, I wish Titanfall had a player count that meant I could get a match anymore. That game was great. It was very good. So apparently PS4 is the current place that most of the pretty much. Yeah. But it's dire. It's like sub 10,000 the last I checked.
Starting point is 02:37:22 And that was like eight months ago. Origin was a while ago. But yeah, but that's free to play. Gundam is there. So cool. Can we get a Titanfall three before EA just kills respawn entertainment? No, you're right. They will cancel it once it's announced.
Starting point is 02:37:41 What's this? I mean, I'm getting some breaking. OK, well, getting some breaking over here. Breaking news. I hope it's a story that's worth it. Well, we talked about PSN name changes. Apparently you can lose your DLC, save data and more if you do the name change, because what? Let's read this out. Sony is allowing PlayStation Network users to change your names,
Starting point is 02:38:07 but it appears the feature might come with a few more caveats than expected. They warned that some game and app compatibility issues in the initial announcement, according to the users in the beta, though, the disclaimer warns that players warned they could lose lots of information associated with their account, including DLC purchases and saved games. The disclaimer was leaked by better members on the Resetera and notes that not all games and applications support the online ID change feature. So players who use it may lose access to data and to content,
Starting point is 02:38:37 including virtual currency, game progress, like save data, leaderboards, trophy progress. Remember when I talked about? Yeah, it's the software. I didn't think this would be as bad as software based decision. Yeah, if the game was like basically using your ID, they need to find out which games this doesn't work with, publish a big ass list. It also notes that games might not function properly, even offline.
Starting point is 02:39:02 And your prior ID could remain visible to other players in some situations. If you run into issues with the change, according to users, you can revert back to your original username at no additional fee. But that may not resolve all of the problems. Wow. Yeah, it is. Yeah, that's that's that's you're fucking with code, dude. Mistakes made what, 10 years ago? You're fucking with code.
Starting point is 02:39:26 Like there's no easy fix for that. One person made one bad decision like 10 years ago. So so what do you think? Do you think it would you think it's better off to just not offer this at all? Or do you think offer it and then give you the ability to revert? I think the most important thing for them to do right now is that when this beta ends and they rolled out, they have to be extremely clear about what games have what issues.
Starting point is 02:39:50 Yes. Now, assuredly, I'm going to imagine some bigger games can patch themselves if they want to. I'm going to imagine that every single game that they're talking about that fucks up like this is a PS3, PSP or Vita game. I imagine they talked about this bullshit going forward for Sony for PS4. And so that none of those games are affected. But we still need a concrete definitive list. If there's a list of games and it includes four games,
Starting point is 02:40:13 they're all Barbie horse adventures one through four. I think I find whatever. I think new games can be affected by this as well. If it's referencing your your ID as part of its net code, like if it's that has nothing to do with the generation, it needs. Well, what I mean is I can't imagine Sony did not tell people to not do that. In it for the PS4 onwards, a big old wiki list, a big old definitive list of what's what would be helpful.
Starting point is 02:40:37 And yeah, I guess letting people roll back if they want to is also the best you can do. But otherwise, this is a you're fucked if you do fuck. They really sustain and say rolling back is worse. So part of the reason why I think that it's 99 percent PS3 games is because part of the reason that I think they waited this long to do this is just so they can get farther away from this problem. They can get far enough forward in time
Starting point is 02:41:02 that the games affected are ones that no one cares about anymore. Right. Hard to say. Let's take some letters. Hey, if you want to send in a letter about your PSN name change robbing you of all your guitar hero songs. Rock band. Yeah. Rock band. That'd be disastrous, wouldn't it? That's so much.
Starting point is 02:41:23 Especially since you can't even rebuy those anymore. So much. And considering you play it so much since. Yeah. Well, I know I do. But every every every couple. Generations, five to ten years. Send it into super best friendcasts at gmail.com. That's super best friendcasts at gmail.com.
Starting point is 02:41:44 I'm also kind of curious next week. How do you feel about how slow those crunchy cowboys are? And how crunchy they are? I'm interested in seeing people complain about how slow it is, honestly. Well, what do we got this week? Corrections. Yeah, yeah. Oh, no. Just a little bit more trivia about what Pat said about the Buster Groove series
Starting point is 02:42:05 only have two games. There's actually there's actually a third title in the series, though it's a strange one. And it's its own little thing more than a sequel. Long story short, you control a dancing team instead of an individual. Music style isn't like the others. And the gameplay is different. I like it a lot, but there's a lot wrong with it, too.
Starting point is 02:42:22 It's Japanese exclusive and you can't emulate it. So anyone interested is going to have to drop some cash for an import copy. Hope this useless titbit is called what he didn't say. Oh, that's good. So look up Buster Groove three. Yeah, we're going to do that real quick, says here on Wikipedia. Buster Groove games. Uh-huh. Uh-huh.
Starting point is 02:42:45 Uh-huh. Uh-huh. We've got. No, no, not listed there. That was helpful. Thank you. Thank you. Uh, yeah. Hmm. Hmm. Uh,
Starting point is 02:43:04 Dance Summit 2001. Dance Summit 2001 apparently is the third game in the series. It doesn't even have the name Buster Groove in it. It doesn't even have the name. So yeah, no wonder no one would think of that as the thing. Well, because they shouldn't. Because it's a different game.
Starting point is 02:43:22 Oh my God, I've seen this before. I know this game. That looks horrible. I've seen screenshots of this before and I've seen video of it. Yeah. Yeah. That looks very bad. Dance Summit 2001. This rings a bell now.
Starting point is 02:43:35 All right, that's our correction. Thank you. Thanks, Daniel. Hmm. Another Daniel. Yep. My little Daniels. Uh, we've got another one. Corrections.
Starting point is 02:43:45 Oh. The voice actor who played Cain Simon, Temple Man in Legacy of Cain, is very much alive. Tony Jay voiced the Elder God. That's what I was talking about. Yeah, that's what we were talking about. Yeah, their correction is incorrect. I mean, those people are alive, but the antagonist of the Soul Reaver series is not Cain. It's the Elder God.
Starting point is 02:44:05 Oh, well, there you go. And yeah, Simon Temple Man and Michael Bell are totally both still very alive. Okay, well, that was Boyd. Hey, if you want to have some fun, go watch Star Trek Next Generation Episode 1. The weird magistrate asshole is Michael Bell. I will not watch that. The straw hat Gintoki says correction. Oh, about one piece.
Starting point is 02:44:29 Yeah. Uh, Halo Besties, uh, John from Michigan here correcting something Pat said about one piece two weeks ago on the podcast. Got it. Said it didn't have a tournament arc, but recently the Dress Rosa arc had a big tournament held at the special devil fruit, uh, and spoilers. It was, it wasn't a normal 1v1, but it was more of a battle royale where a hundred and three people fighting a ring and the winner goes to the next round.
Starting point is 02:44:51 There's also somewhat of a tournament arc early in the foxy arc, uh, where the straw hats played various mini games against the foxy pirates. I, I, I didn't say it didn't have one. I said it didn't have one up until the point that I watched and that was about a hundred and fifty five episodes. Is there an actual correction? Yeah, these guys have been striking out on this, this week. Uh, we got one correction.
Starting point is 02:45:12 Wooly for the love of God correction. Um, been catching up with the podcast and I don't care if I'm late on this, but it needs to be done. Oh, gee. Gameboy games. There's a big old list. I mean, we were looking at lists during that period. Pokemon yellow MK one, two, three R type chop chopper lifter.
Starting point is 02:45:31 One, two, three. Donkey Kong land. One and two. Those games are legendary. Spy versus spy. Spice invaders. Prince of Persia. Matt exclamation marks.
Starting point is 02:45:39 Double dragon. One and two. Why would I play Prince of Persia on the gameboy? Lynx awakening. Mega man to Robo cop. One and two. Tetris. We forgot about that.
Starting point is 02:45:48 One and two. Quirk. Gradius. Is there an actual correction? Yeah. What's the actual correction? It was just a list of gameboy games on the shitty game. Correction coming in from Jace.
Starting point is 02:45:59 Pyramid head. Okay. Silent Hill complainers. Yeah. As a Silent Hill fan complainer, I'm also sick of Pyramid head being misused throughout his history. That's a good time. That was the correction.
Starting point is 02:46:11 However, I do not believe he's misused in homecoming as absurd as that game is. Yes. Pyramid head could easily be considered James is demon only, but he really seems the town as a whole is aware of him because the general spirit of punishment to those who feel guilt is not yet having been punished for their sins. In particular, I cite the painting in the school of Silent Hill 2 as an example of this knowledge. Spoilers for homecoming ahead.
Starting point is 02:46:38 Nobody cares. When Alex first sees pH, he's afraid of him, but pH absolutely does nothing to him because he's not the one who needs to be punished. Later on, he appears to punish Alex's dad and the game itself implies that he'd been tormented by pH for quite some time. All this comes together to form what I believe is one of the two only good parts of Silent Hill homecoming where pH simply does his job and leaves as he should. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:46:59 Well, okay. I have a correction. One, there is no school in Silent Hill 2. He's talking about the painting inside the historical society above the prison. It looks like a school though. It is not. And two, that is actually in reference to the conical helmets of the Civil War executioners that they wore for some reason.
Starting point is 02:47:17 But the actual pyramid head in 2 is very much explicitly for James. Even the other characters in that area who also need to be punished don't see pH. That's why in Silent Hill Origins, they have a character called the Butcher, which is the exact same thing as pyramid head. He's just not pyramid head. Because he's specific to Travis. That's how it should always be handled. So even if James, even if whoever the fuck is in homecoming, I don't care.
Starting point is 02:47:45 Shepard. Whatever. Rex. Shepard. Even if his dad needs a punisher, it should not be pyramid head. It should be a boat with a watch. It should be a box face. Yeah, fuck it.
Starting point is 02:47:59 Fight Mage Studio says, Dear Angriest Naruto, Black Naruto, and Matt Naruto. Wow. Have you seen this meme? I like it. You just look at a character from anything. You just describe them as a type of Naruto. This week I came up with my newest stupid question. I asked my buddy.
Starting point is 02:48:15 He seemed to be morally offended. I decided to share it. What do you think Spider-Man's webbing tastes like? Tastes like spiderwebs. Initial brainstorming led to my spouse and I thinking maybe it had an alcohol-like taste due to evaporating over time. Toby McGuire tastes like spiderwebs because it's organic and it has to do with the spider bite.
Starting point is 02:48:37 Regular old vanilla in the box. Science spiderwebs. Science spiderwebs probably just take synthetic junk in the house. Yeah, like plastic. Yeah, big old chemicals and shit. It burns your retinas if it gets too close to your eyes. I think that's probably... Doppelganger probably tastes very sharp.
Starting point is 02:48:55 Probably toxic, but maybe not too toxic because let's say someone that's a bad guy was tied up and he wakes up and tries to chew his way out and then dies in the process. I don't think he can chew their way out. That's the thing that's pretty strong. But if you try to, you're licking it a bunch and then you die from toxic ingestion. What about when the people's mouths get webbed up? They could lick the... They never webs up people all the way.
Starting point is 02:49:18 But that's why I'm saying if they die then Spider-Man's liable. I don't think... Yeah, but then they would have to find out who Spider-Man is. It's not Jizz. I think that's the important thing. I think that we need to get here is that it's not Jizz and it probably doesn't taste like Jizz. Again, Peter Parker told me about Spider-Man and we're not sure.
Starting point is 02:49:39 And we got a last one coming in from Ratboy. Hey, Ratboy. Hey, Ratboy. Stop him lying on the walls. Can't be our Ratboy? Can't be our Ratboy. Okay, that'd be ironic. Yeah, I doubt it.
Starting point is 02:49:48 Why would he bother to email? You could just call one of us. Our Ratboy is not the Spider-Man. I have not seen Ratboy in forever. He's big now. He's probably a Ratman at this point. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 02:49:58 He's doing all right. When FF15 came out a few years ago, I remember Pat was always on about how trash it was that the same button used to jump was also used to interactive people. Yep. This is a hassle because you jump around every time you try to talk with someone or pick up an item. You ran into this as well, right, Wolves? Yeah, it's stupid.
Starting point is 02:50:14 RDR2 has been beating it out. The same button used for drawing your weapon is used to interactive people, which led me to pull my gun on people when I was trying to say, yo, there'd be an easy fix to this. It's been done 10 years ago in Fable 2. There's a toggle on your emote screen that would allow you to pull your weapon out and murder a whole town. It'd be nice if more games did something like this so you didn't accidentally murder a whole town because I refused to back down.
Starting point is 02:50:39 No question, I guess. I was just venting about bullshit controls. Yeah, the same weapon to pull your gun on somebody in RDR2 is not the same one that you would interact with them. Well, what he is describing, however, there is something, but it's not quite that. The way you interact with anything in the game world is you target them with the left trigger and then you get a bunch of buttons. You get threatened, dismiss, say hello, leave, and then R2 is pull out your gun.
Starting point is 02:51:06 So R2 is always pull out your gun in that game, always. Well, it works in Spider-Man where punch is also high five. Yeah, when you get close to a civilian. It just depends on whether they're targetable or not. The civilians are never a threat unless they're one of the guys that are like, hey, Spider-Man, I work for Kingpin. Yeah, so you can never, like, air combo. I say R1.
Starting point is 02:51:32 You can never air combo a civilian. I meant I wasn't paying attention. You can never air combo a civilian or spider sting them for that matter. Which sucks. So what else he's thinking is that the main issue is if your gun is out, if your gun's in your hand and you press L2 to target somebody to talk to them, instead of talking to them, you'll get a shit ton of robbery prompts and will be also pointing a gun at them. This is because the game desperately wants you to holster your gun whenever you're not
Starting point is 02:52:00 planning to shoot someone. That's why there's a button, L1, that's all it does, it holsters. Because it goes from essentially hang out, hey, wave at everyone, state two, I'm going to rob or murder you, state. So put your gun away. Okay, that's it. Just put your gun away. Is that initially sounded?
Starting point is 02:52:21 Yeah, though I will admit there have been times when I'm like, oh, I forgot I had my gun out. Now I'm in a fight because I pointed my gun at some people that didn't serve it. Oh, whoopsie, whoopsie. What's going on? What's going on? What's happening? Shitstorm.
Starting point is 02:52:36 Shitstorm continues. The full moon is almost past us. One more to record. And no, we actually have more. Damn. Billy and I miscounted. We thought we counted right, but we didn't. How many more do we got?
Starting point is 02:52:52 Two more. Two more to record. But then we have to do a lot of one of them. Yes, like we usually do. The eclipse is currently ongoing with the Tony Hawk versus the Eric Sparrow. I promise the second session goes better than the first one. It goes by a lot faster. I'll say that.
Starting point is 02:53:14 I'll openly say like that first session was not smooth, and that was me just thinking Tony Hawk was the kind of game you can just pop in and just wing it and see how it goes. But you should have got handed it. Yeah, it's definitely not that. You should also be aware for the amount of tea posing. I apologize for the unwatchability, and I promise that'll improve. You didn't have time to improve because then it was just over. Yeah, I felt that way during Devil May Cry actually.
Starting point is 02:53:42 Devil May Cry also ongoing. Yeah, that Dante section is way shorter than we fucking thought it was going to be. So that that that DMC4 one's coming up fast. It's coming up real fast. Everything's very unexpectedly fast to look forward to that. Yeah. Memories of these things are longer based on time, harder difficulty. We thought every single Devil May Cry game was two to four times longer than it actually
Starting point is 02:54:08 is. I thought this was 75 hours. But that's the process of playing it on like non-normal or normal back when you're 10 when you're first doing it. Yeah, it could be. So that goes. We're going to have to replace those soon. Yeah, I wonder what we'll replace them with.
Starting point is 02:54:25 I actually do wonder. We're not sure what we're going to replace DMC4 with. And what about anything else? No. Okay. Okay. What's going on, Pat? I'm going to stream at some point this week.
Starting point is 02:54:41 I'm not sure how much because I got to go take care of my parents dog. They're out of town for the for part of the week. So I got to go dog sitting, but I'll stream at some point over Twitch.tv slash Angers Pat. Yo, I got to meet a racist cat this weekend. Oh, yeah? Yeah. Yeah, I went to my friend's place because she was like, yo, I have a cat and it hates
Starting point is 02:55:01 black people. And I was like, what the fuck? How does that happen? She was like, well, like she has a friend that was black and back in the day, that friend picked up the cat and like put, tried to put the cat's head in its mouth in his mouth. Like a weirdo who's got some weird dude. Yeah, all right. And just went, ah, and freaked it the fuck out.
Starting point is 02:55:22 And ever since then it was just like, no, I don't want that. And I was like, can I help rectify the situation? Maybe. Maybe. I went to like me and like, I can, I want to fix that. So why did you put its head in your mouth? Yeah. So I'll tell you what, man, if I got a dog, that dog's coming to hang out at the office
Starting point is 02:55:44 for at least one podcast because I will not have a racist dog. I'm glad that's what I'm used for. Regardless. What? It's for the betterment of all people. I need to expose things to woolly so these things will not be racist. Why don't you have your dog hang out with your other black friends? Don't I don't think I have that many exactly.
Starting point is 02:56:07 Well, what? I'm going to call up crazy John and have the dog and fuck that. I've got like one and a half. So yeah, I realize this and it's been this way for a while now. So yeah, it's like it's like it's like you're one of those stones that involves Pokemon in certain ways, but it's with racism. Yeah. So the first meeting went OK.
Starting point is 02:56:27 Could that be a job? What? Like I'll come over to your house and teach your pets not to be racist. I think it can be. Yeah, I could do that. You could charge. I'm down for that. Like I said, I'm I took I took this on as a project, you know,
Starting point is 02:56:42 and the first meeting was fine. There was definitely an initial look of fear. Tense. There was an initial look of fear and there was a slow approach. You look like you're hungry a lot. And cats really love my feet. Cats love feet. They love they but they always they always go to my feet and they do the
Starting point is 02:56:59 figure eights like tons of times. Yeah. And there was a slow approach and there was a little bit of a like, hey, man, what's up? I'm here. You're here doing your thing. And then did you do a gun to the head video with this cat? Is that why there was a little bit of a kuchiku?
Starting point is 02:57:14 There was a little bit of a shuka shuka. OK, you know, and then after the shuka shuka, there was like, OK, get the fuck away from me, right? And then like leaned back over to be like, what's up? And cat was like, get the fuck away. And I was like, OK, OK. So, you know, and I was like, how is that? And she was like, that's like first contact.
Starting point is 02:57:31 Oh, man, because it's like straight up otherwise running out of the room. And she's like, I don't see it for hours. Oh, man, if if someone of the wrong skin. That's all around no matter how you cut it. So I mean, it happens. We'll rehabilitate the cat. We'll we'll fix. We'll fix it.
Starting point is 02:57:49 We'll work on it. OK, it's going to be a project. Yeah. Yep. Yeah. Funny enough, it's a black cat. Yeah, I know. I was going to I was waiting for you to say that it was a black cat.
Starting point is 02:58:00 Funny enough. Black cats already have enough racism thrown at them. Yeah, they actually do. The black cats are like the number one to be put down in shelters because people don't want people to shit. They think they're they think they're fucking because we're apparently in the Salem witch trials still to this day. Yeah, it's the fucking dumb black cat.
Starting point is 02:58:19 All right. No, right. No, give me a second. That's shaking my head. Yeah, I was saying, I'll be streaming at some point over twitch.tv slash Angriest Pat, you'll probably also find me over at twitch.tv slash Peach Slive or whatever page gets to stream in. And that's pretty much it.
Starting point is 02:58:33 Don't know what I'm going to stream though. Probably that Spider-Man DLC. So it was like three hours. Yeah, it was like two hours, 50 minutes. OK, that'll even do everything. That'll do. What about you guys? What's up on Mully Versus?
Starting point is 02:58:43 Yeah, you should do. Do you have a gun to your head? A tutorial about how to make your cat not racist. More like but no. Yeah, actually, a video went up yesterday. A video went up today. The best of Naruto Ultimate Ninja Storm. So if you want the nice, solidest compilation, shout outs.
Starting point is 02:59:05 Thank you very much for for that. You can check out the full highlights videos. They're both about an hour long or so and lots of fun stuff, stuff that I forgot. Boy, oh boy, that's a there's a lot of. That's a racist. That's for the first no. Oh, no.
Starting point is 02:59:27 Anyway, I thought your job was to get rid of and now he's teaching narratives to be racist. You see, the problem is racist narrative. When you're talking to yourself, you have nothing but your own brain to echo back at you. Yeah, the Hidden Village of Burning Crosses. That's no good. So anyway, those some those are what did you do in the?
Starting point is 02:59:49 I drew parallels where you shouldn't. You don't know. Yeah, you just finished with I drew parallels. Oh, no. Yeah. No one's drawn parallels to any success. Can't think of a single person that came out of that unscathed. No. Oh, I see.
Starting point is 03:00:10 I see it also holds true in this instance. Well, anyway, even though even though I hit the the real credits on near tomato, yeah, we're not done. So there's hidden credit. There's extra cool shit to do. You got to go hang out with some CEOs. I got to go hang out with some people and I've leveled the fuck up. Yeah.
Starting point is 03:00:33 So there's that. And I'm doing some I'm doing some unimportant site mishes off camera. And then we're going to clean up the rest of the good ones and the extra shit on camera. So near automata, we'll actually continue once we get some time to finish that off. But that's over on Willie versus a man, a man, a man, a man. On the flop house, I have either tonight or tomorrow, depending if the YouTube algorithm allows me to have a what hop on episode
Starting point is 03:01:02 about the splatter house to make a talk about this a little like two weeks ago. That's either going to be tonight or tomorrow. And then on the 31st, there'll be a mumbling with Matt all about horror games with one Derek from Stop Skeletons from fighting. Or we have two chattering skeleton heads that talk to each other that is synced to our sound waves of when we speak. Oh, that's cool. So they move.
Starting point is 03:01:28 Is there a tech thing or is that manual? That's a tech thing. Oh, cool. That was pretty cool. That's happening. And then the MacMawMuscle's midnight massacre, which is a bunch of a spooky movie reviews we've been doing all month long finishes, also Wednesday with a Halloween, the new Halloween that I talked about last week.
Starting point is 03:01:45 And that's me. Cool. So, folks, I hope you look forward to more DMC, more more thug and more to be more to be asses. I mean, I really wish you provide all of this. I really wish I could, like, throw the the automata credits. Don't do that. You can't. Don't do that. You can't. I'm bringing it up because you can't. I was thinking I that was one of my first thoughts when I started today.
Starting point is 03:02:08 Exactly. I was like, man, that would be some. No, absolutely not. I refuse, you know, but like you put off music from that game there. Oh, boy. Oh, boy. Oh, boy. So you know what my favorite part about that is? Is that there are two songs that I'm like, yeah, that's the best song. Don't use either of those. Don't dare. You can't. Oh, hey, you know, it's fun.
Starting point is 03:02:30 I officially joined the hack at Iwi now. So like the like the hacker group thing that I'm doing, I'm officially part of like the the the, you know, does that teach you? There were Sengan. You were like a pledge before. What? What is this? Well, before it was just no. It was it was just like you're taking some classes and stuff and whatnot. And then like if you're like apparently like not bad. So you're a pledge and stuff.
Starting point is 03:02:55 Then you can do it to like go perform it in places. I think Wally is trying to get my Thai restaurant. I can go to. Yes, I can go to my Thai restaurant. Sorry, a Polynesian restaurant. I think I think Wally is trying to dance his curses away. They do. They do. Like, unfortunately, well, I don't think these Haka dancers will take the curses away.
Starting point is 03:03:14 They don't. They do that festivals and they do it like in like. Parades and stuff like that and whatnot. And that way the curse will definitely be defeated. What about the haunting? We'll see because we got separate like vectors going on. Yeah, all angles have been covered. Come at me.

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