Chambers of the Occult - EP# 25 Misguided Youth and Louisiana Spirits: The Slender Man Case and The Myrtles Plantation Ghosts

Episode Date: December 25, 2024

In this episode of Chambers of the Occult, we dive headfirst into the unsettling story of the Slender Man stabbing. J takes us through the disturbing tale of how a creepy internet legend took hold of two young girls and led to an unthinkable crime against their best friend. We’ll unpack how a fictional character became something much darker and explore the ripple effects of this modern myth gone too far.After that, Kai walks us through the history and stories of the Myrtles Plantation, one of Louisiana’s most famous locations. From the mysterious figure of Chloe to the unexplained happenings that make this place haunted, we’ll sift through the history and online personal accounts.Grab a seat, maybe keep the lights on, and join us as we navigate the twists and turns of human psychology, legends, and the unknown.Send us a text

Chambers of the Occult may contain content that might not be suitable for all listeners. Listener discretion is advised. Hello. And I froze again. It's back. We're back. We're back to freezing, folks. Episode 25. 25. I'm Jay. From Chambers of the Occult. And I'm Kai. Hello. And this is your last, our last full episode for the year.

Our last episode for the year. Yeah, our last episode for the year. That's crazy. Yeah, there's still an old news nonsense coming up next week, but that's gonna be for the new year, actually. Our last, yeah. Yeah. Okay, so that way, yeah, this is gonna be the last episode. This is the last episode.

Wow, way to close it out, I guess. If you guys stuck around? Can you believe we're already a year into this? Yeah. Crazy. It's crazy. If you guys stuck around, thank you. Yeah, thanks for being here.

If you're new, welcome. And if you're not new, thanks, welcome back. And if you're lo new, thanks, welcome back. Yeah. And if you're lolly... Um... Thank you. Hi, thanks for sticking with us. If you don't know who we're talking about, that's okay. That's fine.

It's just our biggest fan, like, ever, you know? Yeah, yeah. She'll find any TV and she'll just put it on there. Yeah. That's so crazy. We've been going for a year now and it's been really fun. Yeah, time flies. Oh, and then PodFest. Yes. How this has opened that up for us to I

Listeners, I don't know if any of you guys know what podfest is I don't think Jay or I knew about it until recently But we are gonna be at podfest in Florida in January So that's awesome. Starting the year strong. Yeah, and we were selected to get tickets to go by Buzzsprout, how we publish our episodes. So it just feels cool that we've done something. Yeah, they were like, hey, would you like us to pay for your ticket send an application? And we were like sure and we got accepted quick. I feel like Well, I mean you was like in like a you got you waited like three days Cuz like you submitted it two days before the deadline

Yeah, so I guess it took it was only like two days for them to get back to two or three, something like that. Anyway, yeah, so really cool. We're gonna do some cool things. We have some paranormal investigations coming up. Yes, we do. So keep an eye out for that on our YouTube. You guys will get more details later on. Yeah, you guys will get more details later on. If you haven't subscribed to our YouTube, maybe this is your chance to do it now. That way you can see it when it comes out. Maybe this is the time. Yeah. Yeah going into the new year actually

Following our YouTube because in my opinion I think YouTube is the best way to to to watch our podcast and listen to our podcast because you can see us because it's the Because you can see us Exactly and whenever I'm super quiet or Jay is super quiet, even though we've said something crazy, it's because we have the most like flabbergasted look on our face and we just don't have the words. So actually seeing that video is really cool. Also I want to say Jae, very nice. He got me a Christmas gift. And one of them is, it was like the little door hanger thingy that you got. It was so cute.

Wait, let me go grab it. Go for it. So something I've talked about in the past is how sometimes I'll get interrupted or my mom will knock on my door or something like that if I'm recording. I was like, I need one of those little things you hang on your door that's like, oh, recording in progress or something. And what'd you look at? What do you got?

Thank you, Jay. This is really cool, actually. And then, I just opened the second one, the set of dice. So cool. So they glow under black light. Okay, that's what I was thinking, because there was a little UV light with it. I just need to plug it in. Thank you. Super cool. I saw them and I'm like Soros Soros. Yeah

So awesome. Happy holidays everyone. Yeah, I just wanted to get that out there. Happy holidays Merry Christmas. Happy Conica. Merry Kwanzaa? Something like that. Yeah Sorry, I don't mean to be disrespectful You know if you celebrate something Happy whatever you're celebrating if you celebrate something we're celebrating right alongside with you And if you're not celebrating you still get some time off work, hopefully Hopefully I don't which sucks, but... That's true. That's okay. That's life.

Anyway, last episode of the year. Lots of good energy, I think. And then I'm gonna bring it down. Lots of good energy. And I'll bring it right back up again. I hope so. Take it away, Jay, for our last episode of the year. So I think I picked a really good one for the last episode of the year.

Saying it out loud, I think it's a really good one. So, I'm gonna start with a question. I might be a little specific. But I think it might be just like... unique to everyone that listens. Like, what were some of the strange beliefs you had as a kid that like you no longer believe in? I don't know if there's any that you can think of.

I don't know if like a belief necessarily when I was little. Oh, the belief where like it was illegal to turn the light on in the car? Yes! At night? At night? I thought that was illegal. I thought so too.

Not a belief necessarily, but I was just so scared of the dark. Like I was so scared I would like flip off the lights which I like ran up the stairs super quick. No, I think, yeah, I think everything in my childhood was pretty... normal compared to other childhoods, like, belief-wise. Um... But yeah, I think that... I found out that Tooth Fairy wasn't real pretty quickly.

I kind of ruined that for myself. See, that's where it's a cultural difference. Because in Mexico, they don't have a tooth fairy, they have a tooth mice. So a mouse shows up into your house, takes the tooth and leaves you money behind. Okay. Never questioned it. As a child you're just like, money, okay. Yeah.

But the reason I was asking that is because that's definitely going to have something to do in the story. You know, what does it take for someone to cross the line of simply believing in something and actually acting upon it? Huh. Okay. Yeah. Like this is a good way to get it started. Yeah, you know, just questions to have in in your head.

But for this case, we're heading to a state we haven't gone to yet. We're heading to Waukesha, Wisconsin. Wisconsin, home of the cheese curd. Yes. So I think the year is 2014. So, relatively recent. And we're gonna meet three girls, three friends, three besties, or whatever they call it. Um, and this is where you meet.

This is where you meet. This is where we're going to meet Peyton, who also goes by Bella, but I'm mostly going to refer to her as Peyton. There's also Morgan and there's Anissa. They're all 12 year olds. And Peyton and Morgan were close friends during fourth grade. Because Peyton was just drawn to Morgan because she seemed to be more of a loner and she didn't really seem to have many friends. So Peyton just wanted to be a nice person and went to talk to her. They became friends.

Yeah, that's nice. Yeah, she was kind-hearted and she wanted to befriend her and to make her feel included. So over time, they became best friends. And then Morgan met Anissa. They met in middle school, and then they bonded over shared interests, including things online and just what kids bond over. So Anissa, like Morgan, was a little bit of a loner,

so the two quickly got close. And then Morgan introduced Payton to Anissa. And then that's when the trio formed. So Morgan and Anissa were a little bit of loners. Payton not so much, but Payton just became friends with Morgan. And then through Morgan, she met Anissa. So now we're going to skip to May 31st, 2014. Now Morgan and Anissa invited Peyton over for a sleepover to celebrate Morgan's birthday. So this sleepover-

So she was turning 12? Yes, she was turning 12. Okay. Yeah. The sleepover was pretty normal and the girls played games, they watched movies, they stayed up late, typical sleepover. And then the next morning after breakfast, they said that they should go to a park and just play that's nearby. So they agreed on it.

Morgan began to pack her bag with food as well as some other things. But Payton was looking at some of the things that she was packing and she found some of the things that Morgan put in her bag to be unusual. Like a picture of Morgan's family was in the bag as well. So it's like, okay, it makes sense that we're going to bring like granola bars and water bottle to the park. Okay. But why?

Yeah. Why a family picture? Why this picture? Yeah. That's weird. At this point, they were already friends for a few years. So Peyton did say that Morgan had some odd quirks. So she saw that it was a weird thing and tend to dismiss it and they just went to the park.

So they get to the park, they're playing for a while. And then after that, they're just going to the bathroom because they said that there's some graffiti in there and they want to take a look. This is where things go... I'll let you put words to it. Because in the bathroom... Where things go awry? Maybe.

I don't know. This is where, yeah. So Morgan, Payton, and Anissa were in the bathroom and they told Morgan that there was some graffiti, some like vandalism, none that they could see. So then that's when Morgan grabbed Payton by the arms from behind and Anissa struck Payton's head. Okay. Now... That escalated very quickly. Yes.

Morgan, of course, she yelled in pain... Not Morgan. Peyton yelled out in pain. And then eventually, Anissa apologized... I think... Yeah, Anissa apologized for striking her. And like, it was like a one-time thing. And then they walked out of the bathroom.

So like it happened. It happened. Peyton probably was like, what the fuck? Yeah, it's like, hey, sorry. The two girls were like, sorry. Yeah, yeah, something like that. We were just messing around. So then.

What? That makes zero sense. At that point, Peyton's a little uncomfortable, so she just leaves the bathroom with the girls. Of course. So they all leave the bathrooms, and then I think it was Morgan that made the suggestion that they should go into the woods to play hide and go seek, just because it's a park with the wires by. Oh my god. At that point...

Right after this? Yeah, at that point, Payton wasn't really on board. She was just kind of uncomfortable from the situation. Yeah. But she still decided to go with them. Pure pressure type of thing. Okay, girl.

Once they were in the woods, Anissa told Payton to lie down on the ground. She claimed that it was part of the game and that she should cover herself with sticks and dirt. And then Payton, of course, she was hesitant because she didn't want to comply because it was a weird request. It's like if we're playing hide and go seek, why do I have to get on the ground? Yeah, what the fuck?

I'm just going to hide. I'm not going to like bury myself. Yeah, yeah. So, Anissa sat down on Payton. Payton was on the... laying down. Anissa sat down on Payton. And then Payton said that she couldn't breathe. So, a little after that, Morgan grabs her backpack. And she pulls out a kitchen knife which they had

brought from Morgan's house so when she was packed in all those granola bars and everything she put a knife in there. She grabbed a knife too. And then Morgan turns to Anissa and tells her quote I'm not going to until you tell me to, end quote. So Anissa, the girl that's sitting down, turns to Peyton, turns to Morgan and says, go ballistic, go crazy. A 12 year old girl says that? Yes.

That is a quote. Yes. Go ballistic, go crazy. Okay. So then Morgan was sitting on Payton's legs and Morgan brought her face real close to Payton's face and she whispered, I'm sorry in her ear and then began repeatedly stabbing Payton and pushing her down during the attack. Peyton was then stabbed 19 times.

Holy fuck. In her arms, legs, and her torso. So Peyton still had the strength, you know, to remain conscious. Eventually the girls got off of her. As she started stumbling through the woods, Peyton was asking for help, trying to scream for help. The girls came up to her and told her to stay still, to rest, to like lay down because it would slow down the bleeding. And then they told Peyton that they were going to go get help.

Don't tell me Peyton listened. So, well, the girls didn't really look back at Peyton. They just left Peyton bleeding on the ground and like they walked away. So Peyton just continued to struggle. You know, despite her injuries, she managed to crawl out of the woods to a nearby road. And that's where she was discovered by a passing cyclist who found her. Thank God.

He called 911 and during the 911 call, they're like, hey, what's your emergency? He's like, I think there's, I found a girl and I think she's bleeding. It's like, is she bleeding? It's like, it looks like she's bleeding. So Payton was rushed to the hospital where the doctors described her survival as miraculous,

just giving the extent of her wounds and like the locations. So I do have some information of where the key injuries happen during the stabbing. So... That's crazy that you have that. There's a lot of information for this case. Okay. So key injuries include a stab wound to her chest, which narrowly missed a major artery near her heart,

and wounds to her diaphragm, liver, and her stomach. So during one of the interviews with Dr. John Kelman at the Waukesha Memorial Hospital, he said that the knife cut through the tissue, but not the artery. And he said that if it had cut through the artery, she would have died from a heart attack in a minute or two. So then I also have a little screenshot here of what they mentioned in the report. It said that, okay, where is it? Officer, the officer indicated that at the Memorial Hospital, they took a CAT scan to determine the severity of her injuries. And then, where else?

Yep. The physician indicated that there was fluid around the heart, which required a thorax surgical team to be called in. They also noted that the total of 19 stab wounds were located and they were also photographed, because this was a crime. Wow. It was, good.

Glad it was treated as such. Yeah. And it said that the stab to the artery was one millimeter away from certain death. It was just that close. If the girls had gone deeper, Peyton would have died. Wow. Wow. It was the teeniest little bit.

Yep. If she stabbed just a little further, holy fuck. Just a little bit more and she wouldn't have been able to even struggle. And then Peyton would have bled out. Yep. So it's said that... She was struck with a knife and several medical personnel... Pretty much all said that she was lucky to be alive.

Now during surgery, the injuries were also located on her liver, pancreas, and her stomach, which were all of course stabbed. Now at this point, when she was taken to the hospital, she did say that her friend stabbed her. So now the police are on the search for the two friends. They don't know where they could have gone, but they are walking around with a backpack. They don't know where these two 12 year old girls could have gone. They're walking around with a bag that has water bottles and granola bars. So they were, quote unquote, ready to run away. Fine, for at least a little bit.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So the police found Morgan and Anissa hours later at 2.52 p.m. And they're walking along the side of a highway about five miles from the crime scene. So prior to doing a pat down of searching the girls, the police asked Morgan if she had anything that would hurt him, sharp edges, needles, knives, etc. And Morgan told him that there was a knife

in her purse that was nearby the tree line. So at this point, the police officer didn't know that there was, that they were part of a crime. Suspects? Yeah, he just saw two girls walking on the side, pulled over to the side, did a pat down. He did notice that there was blood on Morgan's clothes. That's weird. Well, I mean, it's just two 14 year old girls. Okay, so that's probably why he saw them.

Yeah, yeah, he did notice that there was blood on Morgan's clothes. No, I mean, that makes it weirder that it's just two little girls that he pulls over then pats down for no apparent reason, but it's probably No, I mean, it's, it's, it's, that makes it weirder that it's just two little girls that he pulls over the paths down for no apparent reason. But it's probably because, you know, he saw they were covered in blood. He noticed that they were covered in blood. He also asked Morgan if she was injured.

And that's probably why he pulled over. He saw blood, maybe they're hurt. When he asked her if she was injured, she responded that she wasn't. And when he asked where the blood came from, this is what she said, and I quote, I was forced to stab her best friend to death. She was forced to stab her best friend to death?

Yep. That, okay. Yeah, so. That gives the officer a reason to, to pat them down. The policeman asked Morgan what happened and Morgan just told him that she and another girl had staff stabbed a girl because they were forced to stab her. So like the both of the girls were both forced to stab... That's what Morgan was telling the cop.

Yeah. I'm not sure if Anissa said anything at that point or not, but it's at least what Morgan told the cop. So Morgan was like the spokesperson for it. Yeah, basically. Like she was the one who was talking. Yeah. So they both had blood on them and they were carrying clothes Granola bars water bottles a picture of her family because she said she wanted to remember her family

and In another bag there was also the knife that was used for the attack There now this knife had a five inch blade It wasn't a steak knife, it was a five inch blade. The girls didn't put up a fight, they just went with the cops and then the girls believe that they were walking. The girls had this belief that they were walking to a mansion in the woods. What? We'll get more into that. walking to a mansion in the woods. What? We'll get more into...

Yeah, you better. Yeah. What the hell? Yeah. So, we're gonna take a look back at the hospital because meanwhile, Peyton at the hospital, she really couldn't talk. Just... Yeah.

And her thorax was also, of course, injured. And when her parents arrived, they couldn't even talk to Peyton. They couldn't even see her because she was rushed immediately into surgery. Yeah, of course they had to stabilize her. And one of the first messages she wrote after she got out of surgery was, I want to go home. And when they asked her what happened, Peyton simply said that the only thing she remembered was the pain. Oh, Peyton spent terrible. Yeah, she spent this 12 year old spent six days in the hospital

recovering from stab wounds. Now, the parents said when the parents were informed that Morgan and Anissa were the ones responsible for her daughter, they said that Morgan was Peyton's best friend, that the girls talked every night on the phone. Occasionally, they would have some arguments, but they weren't concerned because what 12-year-old doesn't have arguments with their friends? Yeah. Yeah, so there's also something from a journalist in the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel.

Her name was Ellen. So... So, ah! So this stabbing wasn't just random. This happened on May. The girls had been planning this. The journalist said that she couldn't believe that the 12-year-old girls had planned this murder for about six months. Wow.

Wait, how did they come to that conclusion? Like that they... We'll get into the interrogations. Okay. Yeah. You have the question, I probably have the answer. Because there's a lot in this case. Okay. Yeah. You have the question, I probably have the answer, because there's a lot in this case. Okay.

So, during police interrogations, the girl said something quite concerning, because they said that they were walking to Slender Man's mansion. What the fuck? Wait, when was this again? 2014. Okay. So, yeah, Slender Man was like Pete. Yeah. Was like at its height at that time. And they explained that they believed they had to kill Payton

to prove their loyalty to Slender Man and become his servants. Oh, my God. Yep. So, Anissa told police that the idea to kill Payton came from Morgan. Because she said that they had to prove themselves to be worthy for Slender Man. Seems like it, yeah. Yeah, yeah. And then Morgan tells Anissa that they should be proxies for Slender Man.

Okay, girls. Um... I mean, fuck it, it's your life. Yeah, the girls made it very clear that this was meant to be a sacrifice for Slender Man. And this is known as the Slender Man's stabbing. Stabbing, yeah. I feel like I should know about this. Like, I feel like it should ring a bell for me, but it's not. No, there's a ton of information just going through.

I was like, I know the basics. And then the more your research, I was like, more, more, more, more. So like I said, if you have a question, I probably have Chrome across the answer. Okay. Okay, okay, okay. Now the original plan was that during the sleepover, they would wake up around 2 a.m. And they got all this information during the interrogation. They would wake up around 2 a.m.

So the girls kind of like gave a lot of info to the police. Yep. They said that around 2 a.m. they were going to duct tape her mouth shut and stab her neck while she was asleep. So she would bleed out. But they decided against it because their reasoning was that it would be too messy. So that's when they delayed the plan until the next morning pretending that everything was normal. So Anissa suggested

to Morgan that they should attack Payton in the bathroom at the park because quote, the blood would drain down into the floor drain. And they could close the door in the stall and nobody would know that Peyton was in there. Kind of valid, like solid logic. Yeah. I don't know. For like 14 year olds.

12 year olds. Well, one 14 year old. No, I don't know for like 14 year olds Well one 14 year old another 12 year olds. Oh They're all 12. Okay. Yeah. Yeah now while they were in there Morgan felt uncomfortable with the setting because There was going back and forth between an Eastside Morgan of who was gonna stab Payton Eventually they chickened out and their excuse was because they couldn't find a drain for the blood to go down.

And... Okay. Well, so that explains them taking Payton into the bathroom, but like, why punch her? They wanted to knock her out. Like, why strike her? What? Oh, and then it didn't work. That to knock her out. Like why strike her, what? They thought that it- Oh, and then it didn't work.

That's right, they thought if they hit her hard enough, she will pass out and then we can stab her. But it didn't work. But it didn't work. Ha ha ha! Funny as shit I've ever heard. I mean, I'm just saying, how hard do you have to hit a 12 year old as a 12 year old to get them to knock them out?

Dude, I don't know. 12 year olds are like malleable. Like children can like take hits. I don't know. No, yeah. Yeah. So that's why they punched her in the bathroom. Like one held her back.

The other one hit her. That makes sense. Yep. That makes sense. Now. And they're like, shit, like this held her back, the other one held her... That makes sense. Yep. That makes sense. Now... And they're like, shit, like this doesn't work. Yeah. And they came up with the plan to have her lie down. Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Yep. So once again, the original plan was sleepover, bathroom at the park, park. Like, wooded area. So... Mm-hmm. I'll talk a little bit more about the whole Slender Man,

because it plays a huge role in this case with those two girls. I'm not gonna go super into it, like we could do a deep dive if like listeners want to because I know like that's more of like the paranormal aspect. But for this case it like merged both. So like, it, Slender Man isn't just like a story, it was like an internet-born urban legend. It first emerged in 2009 on a forum called Something Awful. And it was created by Eric Knudsten. Slender Man was originally part of a Photoshop contest where users were asked to create paranormal images.

Oh, that's kind of cool. Yeah, actually. So, uh, Kunsten, he submit, uh, his submission featured a tall faceless figure with a black suit lurking ominously in the background, um, of two doctored photos of children. So this is where the original Slender Man came from. Got it. That's cool. Now, what made Slender Man stand out wasn't just his appearance,

but the sinister narrative that like, accompanied the photos. Because he was described as shadowy, supernatural figure who stalked, abducted, and sometimes influenced his victims, often children. So over time, the internet users expanded his mythology through like short horror stories known as creepypastas. So most people know that Slender Man is like a creepypasta, but like the origin was from something awful. It was a contest Photoshop.

Okay, that's cool. Yeah, I didn't know that. I didn't either. I was like, okay, good to know. History. Now Slender Man characteristics are very vague on purpose, just adding more mystery to the factor. He's unnaturally tall with arms

that stretch beyond human proportions. His face is completely blank. There's no eyes, nose or mouth, just leaving a void of expression where he should be. And then sometimes he's depicted with tentacle-like appendages surrounding, like sprouting from his back. Just suggesting that he has like other worldly powers.

And then he's most often found lurking in forest, just silently watching the victims. So, what makes Slender Man so terrifying is that he's not necessarily tied to one specific story or set of rules, because, of course, the mythology got expanded. Some people believe that... Yeah, all the creepypastas, everybody saying different things.

Yeah. Some people think that he drives people insane, that he feeds off fear. It's just like this fluidity that allows like the mythos to grow and evolve over time. So it just creates an entire subculture of fans who write stories, create art, and made even video games about him. Yeah. That's cool. Now, most of the Slender Man was nothing more than just like an unsettling internet creation. But of course for Morgan and Anissa, he was horrifying and he was real.

Yeah. So he really just wasn't a story to them. He was a being that they believed in so deeply that they were willing to kill their best friend to like prove their devotion. That's insane. Like, how do you... How does that happen at 12 years old? And it's like a shared belief between two people?

Yeah. Crazy. So the thing is that Morgan, she was obsessed with Slenderman. She had to believe that she needed to kill for Slenderman. Anissa, on the other hand, even though Anissa was the person that I'm not too sure about, it said that Anissa introduced Morgan to the legend of Slenderman, Anissa was easily influenced. And rather than being like obsessed with him, she was more fearful of Slender Man

compared to Morgan's obsession. Morgan's obsession. She was, Anisa was more of the accomplice. Morgan kind of used that fear a bit and yeah. Yeah, it's because it seems like Morgan was the one who is directing all of it. Yeah. Anyway, yeah.

Now, this is also something I got to learn from the state of Wisconsin. When they picked up the girls, they didn't have to wait for the parents to start interrogating them. Because in the state of Wisconsin, a child can be interrogated without the presence of their parents or guardian in the room. Okay, that's kind of crazy. Yeah, of course, the cops still did like their due diligence.

They read the girls their Miranda rights And then Morgan apparently like waved them and she just said that she was gonna tell them everything So while they interviewed both girls they of course both claimed that each other had the plot to kill And oh, yeah, because they were not, you not interrogated in the same room. It was separately. Now, when questioned by the detective, he emphasized that Morgan had the knowledge of Slender Man, like not Morgan, sorry, Anissa had the knowledge that Slender Man was a fictional character. In contrast to Morgan, Morgan couldn't really tell the difference between fiction and reality. So during the interview... And what do you mean? Yeah.

So for Morgan, Slender Man was real. For Anissa, she knew that he was a creepy story, but she was easily influenced by Morgan. Okay. So, the detective also said that Morgan acted hostile towards him during the interview because during the discussion of the stabbing, Morgan said that she felt quote, felt no remorse. And she described what she did, this is a 12 year old. She described what she did as, quote, stab, stab, stab, stab, end quote. That is a 12 year old get to that. Like that's, that's very clearly like psychopathic behavior. We will get to that.

Yeah. Yeah. In the interrogation tape, which are out there, and I got to watch a few of them, Morgan can be heard saying just like, stabby, stab, stab. And it didn't feel like anything, like it was air. So, the police interrogation for Morgan, she claimed that it was like, she was acting like it was any other day when she was like under custody.

I have some lines from there. Morgan asked the cop, is she dead? And then the detective said, I don't know. She was taken to the hospital. Morgan's reply says, what? I was just wondering. She did not seem concerned at all. Just very casual. I was just wondering.

She seems like very cold, casual. Another thing that Morgan said to the detective, and this was on the tape, casual. Another thing that Morgan said... This was a psychopath. ...to the detective, and this was on the tape. It said, this is going to get me arrested, isn't it? Yeah. Yeah, it is. So this interrogation lasted for a few hours.

Because, of course, there was a victim. The victim was in the hospital. They couldn't talk to them. Because they had their was a victim. The victim was in the hospital. They couldn't talk to them because they had their thorax injured. Now, Detective Tom Casey said that he has a daughter. He was one of the detectives. He said that he has a daughter who's almost the same age as Morgan and Anissa, but that Morgan was saying things that were really eerie

to hear coming out of a 12 year old. Yes. One of the conversations said, the detective said, so did you guys talk about doing this beforehand? Morgan said, Anissa told me we had to. Detective, why? Morgan, because she said that he'll kill our families. Detective. Who's he? Morgan. Um, a man. I don't know him, but Anissa did.

So some of the, I have some of the interrogation with Anissa as well. Uh, because Anissa said there's this website called Creepypasta Wiki. And then the detective said, okay, Anissa, it's full of like horror stories that are meant to be, that are meant to purposely scare you. And there's this one of them called Slenderman. Detective, who's Slenderman? We're back to Morgan and then Morgan said, he's this tall, faceless man who prey on children. And then one of the lines that Anissa said was, at his own will, he can explode this tendrils from his back and like strangle his victims. From what the

creepypasta wiki said, he targets children the most. An said Morgan said we have to kill Bella Bella was the nickname for for pain Now following the entire I don't like this Morgan girl no I do not blame you because like Morgan Morgan like perfect like Influenced all of this. She's like no it was anisa Perverture like... influenced all of this. She's like, no, it was Anissa. Anissa just said, hey, like, there's this really cool website,

Creepypasta Wiki. They bonded over it and then Morgan got obsessed with Slenderman. Well... Anissa still knew that it was a fictional character, but she was very easily influenced by Morgan. Yeah, I mean, that was like one of her best friends. Yeah. Now, following the attack, they also found one of Morgan's notebooks in school, in her school locker. And there was drawings of Slenderman and a picture of a girl holding a knife,

and there's blood dripping from the knife. And the blood is also in her clothing. So, Morgan, of course, it seemed that they were planning this from December. So Morgan had sketches, she had talked about it, she had planned it out. Eventually, Morgan was brought to the Washington County juvenile detention center several hours after the attack.

And as part of the standard proceeding, they asked Morgan if she, quote, planned to do anything to end her life. Just standard proceeding. To which Morgan responded, not mine. No, not mine. What? That is so creepy. Yeah. Coming from a 12 year old girl. Now there was a few more follow-up questions that

That we learned that Morgan was referring to her best friend, which was Peyton. Morgan stated, well, she was my best friend, but she hates me now. But I had to do it. But it had to be done. Now- So she was saying, like Peyton hates her now? Like she's my best friend, but she hates me.

Well, yeah, you know, you just stabbed her. Yeah, so of course. Morgan, what am I saying? Morgan. Also indicated that she had, this is when we get the information, that she had started to plan, she had started the plan to kill Payton in December of 2013.

Wow, so it had been a few months in the making. Yep. So Morgan also added, we talked in December about duct taping and stabbing her while she slept, but I didn't think it was a good idea. I was supposed to set the alarm for 2 30 a.m., but I didn't. So like they're supposed to have the sleepover and then Morgan and Anissa were going to wake up at 2.30 to go. How would they not have woken up? That's a good question actually. As well.

Maybe they've realized that on the spot. Were their parents there? Would they not have woken up the parents as well? They probably would have woken up the parents. I mean I think it also depends on the layout of the house. If the alarm is not super loud or something. That's true. That's true, yeah. So following the attack, Morgan and Anissa filled their water bottles at a Walmart.

So after they left the park, they walked to a Walmart, they filled up their water bottles, and they used that water to wash off the blood. Okay. Yeah. There's- They thought that through as well. There's a video of like the two girls walking through a Walmart. They also wander around- There's like security footage?

Yeah. That's cool. So there's also, they also got to wander around a while because they hid because they saw the police. Of course the police eventually found them. And then Morgan said that the knife we stabbed Payton with was in her purse. Yeah, when the officer pulled them over and found them initially. Now, after being arrested and interviewed, both girls were automatically charged as adults for a tempted intentional first degree homicide.

So under Wisconsin law, children 10 years of age and older are initially charged as adults for first degree homicide by default. Good. Now, which of course includes attempted first degree homicide. So, Deborah Collins, she's a doctor of clinical psychology. Psychology. And she testified on behalf of Morgan. As to the mental health evaluation, she completed with Morgan after the housed had observed Morgan, quote, enduring predominant belief in the reality of Slenderman.

And the other fictional characters as well. I couldn't find what other fictional characters though. Now Morgan's belief in Slenderman had been constant, just unwavering, unyielding, and to her it was very rational. So another thing was that she was motivated to do the bidding of Slender Man and that she had not acted on behalf of Slender Man. If she had not acted on behalf of Slender Man, he could have very well killed her family and she didn't want to die.

So she was like under duress. And that's why she had to commit this murder. Interesting. So one of the doctors, they diagnosed Morgan with schizophrenia. Okay. Which after hearing everything. Expected.

It's, yeah, to be expected. During one of the therapy sessions that took place in October 24th, Morgan said, and I quote, how do you think I was able to repeatedly stab my best friend Anissa? She was all the brains, yeah, she was all the brains...

Yeah. She was all the brains I was pulling her along. I didn't care. I couldn't care. I've never known how to care. From a 12 year old girl. From a 12 year old. Is crazy. Yeah. Yeah, she's a psychopath. Yeah. Yeah, that's like a serial killer in the making. So... Now, of course, she had to go under treatment and all that stuff.

So during treatment, Morgan mentioned... And it's so strange because there's so much back and forth, but she said that she faked her mental health. Because she wanted to say... Morgan said she faked her own mental health? Because she said she wanted to stay in the mental health institute because she didn't want to come home because she was getting sexually assaulted by her father. Oh, that adds on to things.

Yep. Just what you think, it can't get worse. It does. No. The investigation deepens. Yep. So Morgan said that her father was sexually assaulting her for as long as she could remember. And that since her mother would be the one working, that usually was just her and her dad at home. So there was no one to help. She said that her dad would often watch her shower.

Ew. Yep, and sometimes she, Morgan, would sleep on the floor because she knew that her dad couldn't get back up if he got on the floor. That's so weird. Yeah. Poor girl. To think as a child that it is safe for you to sleep on the floor rather than your bed

because your dad can't get you on the floor. It's just sad. During the time that she was in the Washington County Juvenile Detention Center. She was described as compliant, pleasant, and an overachiever with the treatment and everything happening. That makes sense, actually. Yeah. So despite her seemingly like quote-unquote model behavior, she has previously threatened to hurt herself.

And at one point in 2014, sorry, this was not Morgan, this was Anissa. Anissa is the one that's compliant. Yeah. Okay. That makes sense. Yeah. Complete sense. Yeah.

Um, Anissa was put on... Suicide watch because at one point she did threaten to hurt herself. Good. Um... She has also faced criticism from other children in the detention center because everyone knew why she was in there. Um... And with respect to... And with respect to... Sorry, these are the last names and I have to remember who has what last name. Yeah, so Anissa during the 19 months that she spent in the detention center, she was untreated.

Sorry, not Anissa, Morgan. Morgan was untreated for the first 19 months that she was in the detention center and her mental condition worsened. She was reclusive and she still believed that Slender Man exists. Now, an expert who got to observe her testified that when discussing Slenderman, she stated that quote, if Slenderman told me to break into someone's house and stab them, I would

have to. That is insane, girl. Yeah. So she continued to speak for her imaginary friends and she just refused to take medication in fear of losing her imaginary friends. She refused to take medication. Where are her parents in this? I don't know.

Like, cause don't they have authority to like get her on the medication? Yeah, I'm sure. But I don't know how much involve they had. I actually didn't hear or see much of the parents for either child. I did get to see a lot of Payton's parents, but not Anissa and not Morgan's.

Not a Morgan. I mean, also we're talking about Morgan. When Morgan, Morgan at one point did tell her mom that her dad was sexually assaulting her, and she kind of dismissed it, she didn't really believe her, and I don't think the dad would want to get involved in any way, especially if there was an investigation open for his sexual assault on his daughter. So unfortunately, even if the parents wanted to get involved, I don't know how much they could get involved.

According to Morgan's attorney, when she got on medication, she responded pretty well. The voices she began, she used to hear began to disappear, and she eventually started to show remorse for her actions. Really? Morgan started to show remorse for her actions. Really, Morgan started to show remorse? I mean, once she got into medications. Okay, I mean, that's fair, but it's just such a crazy thing to believe. Yeah. The switch up from the cold, unremorsefulness to. Of like, I've never known how to care. I don't know.

To eventually show remorse, but of course it's... She gets medicated, months into treatment, she finally starts to show up. Yeah, it wasn't like a night date, like, switcheroo. No, yeah, but... Yeah, but still. Yeah. Now...

Where is it? The Circuit Court also denied Morgan suspension motion. And she eventually pled to attempt at first degree intentional homicide with the use of a dangerous weapon enhancer struck. So upon the stipulation by the state, she was found not guilty by reason of mental disease or defect. So that's when the court committed Morgan to the custody of the Department of Health Services.

For a period, not to exceed 40 years. So she didn't get charged for anything, she didn't go to jail, but she did go to a mental institution for 40 years. No longer than 40 years. Wow. Yeah. Now, if she was convicted of the charge, if convicted of the charged offense at the trial,

she was found not guilty by a reason of mental disease or defect. Yeah, if she was actually sentenced, she'd like prison, it would have been for 45 years of initial confinement. Okay. Yep. What does initial confinement mean and then what would proceed after that? Do you know? It would be followed by 20 years of extended supervision. I see. Yeah. Yeah.

Okay. So some difference in the order that things would go. But by pleading, she essentially guaranteed herself a finding of not guilty by reason of mental disease or defect. Let's see. More of a plea. I have. Okay. Yeah, furthermore with the finding of not guilty by the reason of mental disease or defect,

Morgan is eligible to petition for conditional release every six months. That is something that she wouldn't have been able to do if she was sentenced to prison. Yeah, so every six months she has a chance to get out and be released. Yeah. Okay. She wouldn't have been able to do that if she wasn't to prison. Now in comparison, Anissa was sentenced to 25 years in a mental hospital. After she pleaded guilty to being a party to attempted second degree attempt homicide.

Anissa claimed that she wasn't mentally well, which the jury agreed in 2021. And then she was granted release to live with her father and continued psychiatric treatment. And she was subjected to around the clock GPS monitoring. That's smart. Yeah. That's good. I'm glad they did that. And then in 2023, which was just last year,

recent. The monitor was removed. Oh wow. So she's still living with her father. like she's still under pearl and all that stuff But she so Morgan is still yeah. Well, that was a Nisa a Nisa and then Morgan is oh that was a Nisa And Nisa was the one that yeah, and then more. Yeah. Sorry. Yeah, Morgan is still in the institution. And so a Nisa Yeah, so this all happened in 2014 So they'd be like 22 now. Yes Yeah. Yeah. So this all happened in 2014.

So they'd be like 22 now. Yes. It's been 10 years. They're 22. Oh my god, wait. They're like, they're almost my storage. Wait, that's crazy. So, Morgan did eventually petition for conditional release. This happened in 2014. Her first petition was filed in 2022.

Okay. So, either she waited or her lawyers or whoever was working with her, they told her, wait, wait, wait, we really wanna like get you better or something. However, that petition was withdrawn two months later. Whoa. The reason it was withdrawn was because in 2021, Morgan had attempted suicide.

So they knew it would not be approved. Morgan had attempted suicide. Mmm. So... So they knew it would not be... Exactly. Approved. Mm-hmm. Yeah. So, she had a suicide attempt at night when her roommate was asleep. She had a cord around her neck.

Um... She was wanting to strangle herself. I'm not sure what ended up happening that she couldn't do it, so she ended up walking out of the room With the cord around her neck So the staff saw her just for everyone to see yeah and the staff had to cut the cord off That's crazy. Yeah, they said that maybe she like she'd like bailed out of it last second or like the cord couldn't hold her Well, maybe she realized something like I don't know

Yeah, they did say that like you could see the blood vessels in her eyes that that had popped from like the force that she had applied Yeah Now this was the first suicide attempt she had but it was in the first self-injury that she attempted. That makes sense. At the age of 18 or 19, she had swallowed batteries. That's really fucking dangerous.

Where did she get them? I don't know. Of course, she did not die from that. She was also known in occasions to like scratch and cut herself. Not to the point where it would be considered suicide, but to the point where it is considered like self-harm. It is self-harm. Yeah. Triggered warning. Yeah.

Sorry, guys. Yeah. I didn't give any warnings for this case. Wow. Thank you. We put them at, you know, we have them at the start of the episode. Now the second time Morgan petitioned, she filed in January of 2024. Wow.

That's when we started podcasting. Yeah. And it was denied in April 2024. Oh, shit. Does it say why it was denied? Yeah. The judge had, the judge was citing concerns about potential risk to the public. Oh.

Yeah. Why? Was she still like violent or aggravated at this point? It probably had to do a lot with the, it's been too recent since the per previous attempts to like self harm or suicide. And we just, they talked to multiple experts. There's video interviews, there's quite a few of them, and they talk to a few of them, and they all say that they believe that Morgan will be eligible for Pearl at some point,

but this is not the point where she is eligible. That sucks. However, she could petition every six months. And she did. A third petition was filed on October 11, 2024. Okay. Yeah. So as of now, she still remains at the Wine Bag- Wine Bag-O Mental Health Institute,

I think I butchered that name, but, and she's still awaiting the court's decision on her latest request. Really? Yes. Okay, so I have like two lines of thinking. One is I feel bad for her right and in a way I do want her petition to be approved because you know if she genuinely is is verified to be like

improved and good enough then like She deserves a second chance. Yeah on the world because she was 12 years old and unfortunately because she was 12 years old and unfortunately had a bad environment and she did not have the resources she needed and so she latched on to something. But then on the other hand it's like well, she did murder somebody. Yeah, attempt to murder, but yeah. Yeah, attempt to murder, but.

Yeah. No, but... Yeah. No, it's hard. Anyway, I hope she's good now, because genuinely, like, I am so sorry to Payton and her family, but, you know, they all were children, so. During the video I got to see at the hearing of Morgan, whether she was gonna get Pearl or not, I think it was her second hearing, I don't think it was the most recent one. They were talking to people that treated her and there was a person that of course I think was her

lawyer or someone that was trying to be like okay if you say she has been improving for the past you know however frame. If she continues in this, you know, if she continues to improve in this progress and this timeline, when do you think she would be eligible for parole to like be brought back into society? And then the person that they were talking to, that psychiatrist said, you know, if this progress continues to happen,

like if she's progressing as expected, I would say we can reevaluate another, letting her out on probation in six to 12 months. Okay, so pretty soon. Yeah. She has a good chance. And part of the reasoning that they want her out, at least part of the reasoning that they want her out, at least part of the reasoning the lawyer is using,

or whoever is defending her or representing her, is that she's still young. She is a 22 year old and she still has, if we get her out now, she still has time to develop and become part of a functional society. Like the longer we keep her, the more damaging it will be when we release her type of thing. And then, yeah. So. I wonder what it's been like to care for her all these years.

One of like the caretakers. Yeah. Seem the improvement from like- I wonder what she's like now. And her personality and if she's like a semi-normal girl, you know? I mean it sounds like that's what they're aiming for with, you know, her psychiatrist and all that stuff. And there's multiple psychiatrists like working with her because they want different, you

know, evaluations from different people and it all makes sense, logically. Yeah, it does. But they all seem to be on the same boat of like, yeah, there has been a definite improvement from previous years. Now, that's Anissa and that's Morgan. Let's talk about Peyton. Okay. I didn't think we'd really circle back around her, Let's talk about Peyton. Okay.

I didn't think we'd really circle back around her, but I'm glad we are. Yeah. Well, I mean, she, yeah. Okay. Yeah, go ahead. So, I mean, of course, despite her horrific ordeal, Peyton, she's now in her early 20s, 22, as of 2024...

24. I was like, what year is it? She's 22. Almost 25, that's crazy. Yeah. Just a few more weeks. A few more days actually. A few more days, like a week left.

Yeah. She's 22. She has shown extraordinary resilience and strength. Her physical recovery was, of course, nothing short of like a miracle. And she spent weeks in the hospital undergoing surgeries and treatments just to repair the damage that was caused by those 19 stab wounds. She defiled all odds by regaining her strength. She eventually got to return to school.

Um, there is, I think it's an ABC interview with her parents and it ends with the interview ends with a video of Peyton walking to the car. They're like, Hey, she's finally walking again. She's walking to the car to go to school. She's trying to, that's cute. Yeah. Now that was an interview, I think that happened in 2014. There have been more recent interviews with Peyton as well. Peyton faced, of course, a long and challenging road just emotionally and mentally. Because of course, you were traumatized and betrayed by your

closest friends. Yeah. Yeah. To put it lightly. Yeah. So with the help of her family and therapist and her community, she's been able to move forward. She volunteered at an animal shelter and she loved being with the cats. Cute. Peyton has spoken about her experience publicly. She's advocated for awareness around mental health

and the dangers of unchecked beliefs that can spiral into violent actions. Now, as an adult, Peyton just lives a quieter life. She values her privacy while she pursues her goals and dreams. She has expressed her gratitude for the kindness of strangers, her families, and wavering support, and the skilled medical team that helped save her life. Peyton has used her story to inspire

others, showing that even in the face of unimaginable pain, it's possible to rebuild and find hope. In a 2019 interview, Peyton was 17 at that time. She expressed gratitude for life stating, I have the life I have now. I really, really like it. That's so sweet. She acknowledged that the ordeal had shaped her into the person who she has become.

She said, without the whole situation, I wouldn't be who I am. And as of 2023, Peyton is a university student with aspirations of pursuing a career in the medical field. In the medical field. Yep. She's inspired by the life-saving care that she received after her attack. And of course, she prefers to maintain a low profile, just focusing on her studies and personal growth. Of course.

And that is the Slender Man stabbing. I... It's crazy to say it, but I feel good. I feel fulfilled after this story because of the way you ended it. Okay. Good. With how... With what Payden spoke about and how she's been doing. So that's really nice to hear. Instantly brought my mood up a little bit.

No, I realized that this is one, if not like one of the few cases where there has been a survivor that has me like a full recovery. Most of the time I realize we cover missing people or family annihilators and there's really like no redemption story for like anyone. But in this case, Anissa got the treatment she needed, she got out earlier. Morgan's still getting the treatment that she needs. Morgan is getting still the treatment she needs. And Payton, she's doing a full recovery and she's wanting to

pursue the medical field, which I think it's actually really sweet. And not surprised by it, but it makes sense. Not surprised, but it's sweet. Yeah. Yeah. Good case. Good true crime case to really end the year. This year off.

Yeah. And I guess now's as good of a time as any just to throw it out there. Echoing what Payden said in her message right to our listeners and whoever. There's resources out there if you ever need anything like there, there is help and it's really hard to muster up the strength and the courage to reach out for that help. But if you need it, please, please get it because mental health is honestly the top priority. Like you need to make sure that you are okay. And I'm so glad that in our modern time

in the past few years, it's really come into prominence to really be known that it's important to take care of yourself and the people around you. So. We have focused so much on our physical health that so many have neglected their mental health and they go hand on hand. So yeah, take care of your physical health,

but take care of your mental health. Yeah. Yeah. Cool. I like that case. Well, I don't like that case, but I like Payden's growth and the message that she sent.

Same. Of course, no one wants to hear a 12 year old getting stabbed. No, and it's like, at the end of the day, they were all 12 years old. They weren't... You can't help but feel bad for all of them. Yeah. And I mean, what resources did you have in 2014 as a 12-year-old if you were going

through something like sexual assault by your father or just mentally? You didn't. You had Slenderman. You had coffee pastas, right? Like that's what it was. That was the coping mechanism, unfortunately. Yeah. And it turned into more. Yeah. I mean, her plan was never to go back home. Like, she continued walking into the forest, or like, the plan to find a mansion in the forest. But yeah.

To be with Slenderman. Yeah. That's crazy. Like, Slenderman from like 10 years ago is still connected to some modern thing because Megan's still institutionalized. Yeah. Doing this whole research, I had heard of a story before. But the fact that, like, there's still updates,

like, this year she petitioned twice. And I was just like, okay, like, there's still things moving around this, this incident that happened. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Cool. Well, thanks for the case, Jay. Of course, you're welcome. That was a good one.

I'm glad you liked it, and I hope the listeners did too. I did. I'm sure they did. I think they will. If you don't, write in. If you did, write in. Just write in. If you didn't like this case, If you did like this case Send it to your friends. If you didn't like this case

Send this episode to your enemies. We still get the views in either way. So, you know It works out Now what do you have for us? So I've got a paranormal case You guys know how I feel about paranormal cases All right, so I got a question for you, Jay. Okay. What kinds of places do you think of when you think about haunted locations?

Haunted locations? Yeah. Old spooky houses, cemeteries, rundown buildings. Yeah. Yeah, I think so. I think that's about it. Yeah. Like houses, hotels. Like monster house, like houses that looked that old.

Yeah. Like run down houses. Or even like hospitals. Yeah, yeah. Like abandoned hospitals. If it's an abandoned hospital, I actually went to an abandoned hospital once and then they tore it down years later. So cool.

But yeah, I went during the day because I was too chicken to go at night. Fair. Completely valid. I probably wouldn't do. Yeah. But no. That's what I think of. Rundown buildings, old houses, cemeteries.

Yeah. So I agree. Yeah. Stuff like that. I'm like, people don't die there. People are buried there. But for some reason, there's this idea that they're haunted. I've never thought about that!

Yeah! Why would ghosts haunt a cemetery? They didn't die there, they just were buried there. What? I've never thought about that! Yeah. Huh. I don't know listeners, if you know, let us know why. Yeah, that'd be weird as hell.

Like I die and I'm like a ghost and I'm like, oh, where am I gonna go? The cemetery hell no what and then you're you're like, maybe like a person you don't have fun Like oh that guy stinks yeah, I think it's weird if you get like buried with your partner and then like you both haunted But at the same time I'm like, what if you're like, it's cute. I don't know some random person yeah some random person What if you're like, I don't know. Some random person. Yeah, some random person. Anyway. Yes.

So yeah, standard places, houses, hotels, building, blah, blah, blah. Yeah, what do you have for us? And so that's why this haunted location I'm covering today was intriguing to me. Is there a circus? No, but that would be really cool. So it's a bit different from places that like are usually

covered or investigated, right? Like the hotels and the houses and all that stuff. I mean, in a way it sort of still is a house. Okay. But a bit different. Today I'm gonna be talking about the Myrtle's plantation. Oh. I can see how that could be haunted.

But it's not like something you traditionally think of when you think of a haunted place, right? No, my head doesn't go to a plantation. You don't think of a whole plantation. No. No. I mean, also, we that's kind of cool. No. We live on the west coast. We're never gonna see plantations. That's why I think like

we know the word but like we don't go see them. That's true maybe if you live in the south it's just like a normal thing. Yeah. Right? You might think yeah. Oh haunted plantation. Yeah. I think that's like a geographical question. Yeah. I think that's like a geographical question. Might be, we'll have to look into that. We'll have to ask chat GPD. Yes. But anyway, tell us about it.

So the Myrtles Plantation, M-Y-R-T-L-E-S, Myrtles. So the Myrtles Plantation is located in Francisville, Louisiana, down south. It was built in 1796 by General David Bradford. He was a prominent lawyer and became Deputy Attorney General in Pennsylvania in like the 18th century around that time. Okay, 17 late 1700s So he was from Pennsylvania and all that he actually had to flee Pennsylvania because He was things he did being

Huh things he did. We what because of things. Yeah, so yes, so he was one of the prominent because of things you did? Yeah, so, yes. So he was one of the prominent figures, like to lead the charge in the Whiskey Rebellion in 1794. What was the Whiskey Rebellion? It's when President George Washington started taxing like whiskey and all this stuff. And so the Americans, they were like,

oh, we don't want this and so David Bradford kind of led the charge and so George Washington himself like put out the like warrant essentially for the arrest of David Bradford. Yeah, I'm just sorry to tell his name was David. What was his name again? Yeah. Okay, David Bradford Sorry to let you. David Bradford. Sorry to let you know David. In 2024, we're still getting taxed for whiskey. Shit's crazy out here.

Yeah. Anyway, keep going. Yeah, so he had to flee Pennsylvania because he was getting chased. So he went over to Louisiana. That's where he built the plantation. Now, eventually a couple years later, he was actually pardoned for his involvement by President John Adams. And so he brought his family over to Pennsylvania with him.

They lived in the plantation for a while. Eventually they did sort of move away. It was sold off. It changed hands a bit. They moved back to Pennsylvania. Anyway, it's also on the National Register of Historic Places. Pretty cool, kind of familiar. I didn't say what number and I didn't look it up and I definitely could look it up but it might take a while because I don't know if you've looked but the National Register website it's like so bad it's so hard to look up like just like chaotic like yeah disorganized yeah and it's hard to look up specific numbers or like listings of the the built you know what anyway I got this let's have chat GPT

okay it might be faster than the actual register Myrtle's plantation yeah how do you spell Myrtle again? Myrtle's plantation the national historic landmark number. It is... We're doing this live on air. I mean, I think it'd be faster. It's number... That is not right. How do you know?

Well, it gave me like a 7,800,000, 100,000... Hahaha! Yeah, it's not right. Okay. Anyway, we'll, uh, we may let you guys know that later. Who knows? Whoa, okay. National Register of Historic Places.

Oh, there's only a reference number. That's what it... So there's really... I don't know. It's not like, officially marked or something? Weird. It's listed there, but it just hasn't... Anyway, anyway, we tried. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So the house was built in 1796, right?

It had six bays of it. It had a big roof. It was one and a half stories. The main draw of it was it was the traditional, like, Creole, kind of Southern Louisiana cottage style of home. How do you get a half, one and a half? Creole kind of southern Louisiana cottage style One and a half Yeah, so it was like one story But like I guess sort of some rooms up above and some like attic spaces, but it wasn't like a full floor

That's what it's described as okay Yeah, so I didn't argue with that we'll have to go see that House yeah, so I didn't argue with that. We'll have to go see that Okay, it was eventually expanded upon okay, but it's started with one and a half yeah anyway But yeah, I was like a hundred twenty feet twenty five feet long like the the walkway towards the front I sort of wrapped around really cool plantation and I'll send some pictures of it We'll post some pictures to take a look it had 22 rooms

Spread over the one and a half floors. I'm calling it two floors. It was two floor. That's still a lot of rooms for superpowers. So yeah, it is. 22. There were like there's a dining hall, other rooms, game room, different parlors. It was a whole plantation, right? So the whole living area for like, the owners, the slaves, Stuff like that thinking of it 20 is not that much. I mean, it's a lot because you said rooms not bedrooms Rooms not bedrooms. So 22 rooms total. Yeah, but anyway This yeah, the second floor had the bedrooms. So there were five bedrooms Yeah, so five bedrooms upstairs and I'll talk a little bit more about those a bit later. So it was owned by General David Bradford, he died in 1808. So what is that? 12 years after he built the place. But after he died, his wife Elizabeth Bradford

continued running the plantation. So they still had it, they still owned it. Okay. Until 1817. So 1817 is when Elizabeth actually gave it to a man named Clark Woodruff. So Clark, he was actually one of David Bradford's like law students because Bradford was a lawyer.

And so Clark Woodruff, he actually married David and Elizabeth's daughter, Sarah. So he sort of joined the family. He married into the family one of the law students. He's like family until he became family. Exactly, yeah. Okay. So Clark and Sarah they took over ownership management of the place and then after that they just basically owned it for a few years. They ran it, they did have some slaves and I'll get into that more in just a bit like I mentioned. Clark and Sarah, they did have three different children.

Cornelia Gale, James, and Mary Octavia. Mary Octavia. Pretty cool names. Yeah. They didn't actually live to be all too old though, because Sarah and two of the children died in 1823 and 1824 because of yellow fever. Oh. Oh. So they didn't live too long.

Yeah. So that's some of the older, I would say more important ownership history of the house. But yeah, so it moves on even more. Elizabeth Bradford, the wife of General David, she died in 1831. Clark and Mary Octavia, they moved to another area of Louisiana, and then they left the plantation to just be managed by caretakers. Eventually it was sold off to some more people. It was remodeled.

Eventually it was, the plantation and everything was sold to a man named Ruffin Gray Sterling. Ruffin. Sterling. Ruffin. Sterling, yeah, Ruffin. R-U-F-F-I-N. Cool. So, Ruffin and his wife, Mary, that's when they did the remodeling. They doubled the size of the plantation. And that's when it got the name.

From 22 to 44. I don't know. It was something like that. Yeah, it was something like that. It was something like that They got renamed you said and then the it got renamed that's when it got named the Myrtles plantation It was named after the type of Like beautiful flowery bushes that were around there so Myrtles got it Yeah, so it went through some other Yeah, so it went through some other changes after that, so forth, but they're really not all too important to what I'm going to be talking about, right?

This is a paranormal case. Yes, it's prefaced by some history. But it's paranormal. This is true. I feel like you can't get proper context for a paranormal case without actually going into the history of the place a bit. So I don't know. You've done.

This is why I marked us as slightly like a history. No, it does make sense. Like a history podcast, right? It kind of does. Like we're true crime, paranormal, comedy, and then like history last. Yeah. No, fair. Yeah, some something no fair. Yeah Makes plenty makes sense to me If you disagree email us if you don't disagree email us

So There are Lots of sightings that have been seen here. And by that what I mean is, I guess, standard stuff, right? Like sounds that you can't explain, creaking, strange smells or shadow figures that sort of have been seen over the years. The typical haunting.

Typical hauntings. For now. I don't know what else we'll get into. For now, yes. Also, I will note the reason these things are seen is because the house actually, it did serve as a bed and breakfast for a while by some of the owners. That's what they opened it up as.

Okay. And now it's still currently open for historical tours. And you can also book the rooms to do an overnight stay. Yes. Which is pretty cool. Do they have a most haunted room? I think all of the bedrooms are haunted, but they do have the big main suite of the house which

I've read is is pretty cool. Okay So there's all those type of things, but there's probably the most well-known Haunting here Of it and so it's sort of the legend of a girl named Chloe. No! Sorry, as you were saying, like, the best well-known legend, in my head I was like, is it a child? No. Is this a girl named Chloe?

It is a girl named Chloe. Okay. Isn't that a child? Yeah. No. How old is Chloe? I mean, you'll get into it. Oh, no, I actually don't know how old she was, but I don't believe she was a child.

I do think she was like a grown woman from what I've read. Yeah, so Chloe was, this is around the time of Clark and Sarah Woodruff. So the law student marries into the family with Sarah. So they took over and they did have slaves, like I mentioned. So Chloe was one of the slaves

that was owned by Clark and Sarah. So there's a couple different versions of this story, but there's one that sort of, I guess I agree with a little bit more, I've read a bit more, yeah. So Chloe was described as someone who, she really wanted to be liked, of course. She really wanted to be treated better by Clark and by Sarah.

So, there's that, but also Chloe was said to potentially have sort of been jealous as well because Chloe liked, wanted Mr. Woodruff, Clark or whatever. And so she tried to get on his good side. So there's a version of this legend. It says that there's one night Clark and Sarah, the Woodruffs, they were talking inside of their room, a study somewhere. And Chloe, she went up to the keyhole, she pressed her ear in to listen at the conversation they were having, just to figure out what was going on, what she could help with. To get the upper hand.

But she was, to get the upper hand, exactly. But she was caught. She was caught by the Woodruff hand, exactly. But she was caught. She was caught by the wood drufts, which was not a good thing. And so, because it was believed, it was believed that you had to remove whatever caused you to sin back then with the religion. They cut her ear off.

No. Yeah, they cut her ear off. No. Yeah. They cut her ear off and so apparently she would then wear like a green turban around her head in order to hide her ear. To hide the fact that she was missing an ear. Oh. Yeah. The fact that there was a time in history where this was acceptable punishment is mind boggling. It's crazy that there were slaves that existed and they were considered two thirds of a person.

That's crazy. Anyway, Chloe wanted revenge, or at least she wanted to restore her place in the family. She wanted to be respected again. Yeah, on their good side again. So there were the two daughters at that point, Mary Octavia and, what was the other girl?

Mary Octavia and Cornelia Gale. It was one of their birthdays. I'm not entirely sure whose birthday it was, but Chloe wanted to bake the cake. So she baked the cake for the birthday, but what she put inside of it was the extract of like cooked oleander leaves. And so the extract of that is very poisonous. Oh. So I- Girl, you're trying to get on their good side.

What are you doing? I'm just- But okay, but there was a plan to this, right? She wasn't- Was she also gonna help them recover? Yes. No., that's it was So she from what I've read and what I think more is she actually wasn't trying to kill them Just get them what she did was she was trying to get them sick enough so that she could nurse them back to health

Because back then it was believed that if you could nurse the family back to health, you were golden. Amazing, right? Like you were going to be, you were golden. You were going to be treated great forever because you brought them back to life, essentially. She was trying to cure the family from the poisoning, but her plan backfired. Was it too much? It was too much. They ate the cake and that's why it says Sarah and her two daughters did die from that poison. And I'm assuming that because she baked the cake, she had to suffer the consequences. Yes, she did. But it actually seems like it wasn't from Clark Woodruff. She actually, from what I read,

was killed by the other slaves. Do you think that was like a form of punishment to the other slaves of like, if you try to get us, like, I don't know, like, we'll have your own kind kill you type of thing? I don't know, like, we'll have your own kind kill you type of thing? No, so I don't think that... Clark had even realized yet that it was...

Chloe that did this. What I was reading and sort of made sense to me was... It was actually a Mercy killing in a way. They hanged Chloe and then they threw her in the Mississippi River. Like you said, either as punishment or what I think might be more plausible was to escape the punishment. Because she would probably get tortured or it would have been ongoing. Yeah. I see that as well now.

Worse than death, right? Mm-hmm. I see that. Yeah. Yeah, I see that as well now. Worst in death, right? I see that. Yeah. And so people are said to still see the spirit of Chloe walking around, they'll see her

with her green turban on that she wears. Oh, that's how they know it's her. Cause the green turban. There's actually this, I actually have a photo. I'll send you it through Discord once again, sir. Yeah, no, that's totally fine. This one was from like a Facebook post of some people who visited.

And, you know, of course I don't know how true it is. I don't know if it was photoshopped, but I think it's a kind of interesting image of what sort of Chloe is believed to look like and how she shows up in photos and is seen. Yeah, and I mean, if she is haunting the plantation, I'm sure that people have seen her. They're just not ready with their phones to take a picture of her. Yeah. Yeah. So I don't know if you saw the picture but yeah you can see like in there and she has sort of the turban wrapped around her head. I'm opening it

right now. Let's see. My discord wasn't open so like now I'm... That's fair. Yeah I had to open mine up. Mine opened up way quicker than I thought it would. Mine had like an update apparently. So I was like, oh, please don't take a long time. Yeah, people believe Chloe is seen to be the most probably common spirit there. There's a couple more that I'll get into as well. Oh, okay. That is a group picture. She showed up in the group picture. Yeah. She just wanted to be with the girls, right? Yeah.

Girls trip. Yeah. So, apparently the house is also built... Apparently the house is also built directly on top of a... Tunica Indian burial ground. I wouldn't... I wouldn't dismiss that. on top of a Tunica Indian burial ground. I wouldn't dismiss that. Yeah. And so ghosts of like Native Americans. Sorry, that was just like a bang that I heard.

It's kind of creepy. I'm not gonna lie. Um... So, some people see like this ghost of like a young Native American woman there. Um, people have reported that there's a mirror in the house that apparently holds the spirit of Sarah Woodruff and her two children that were killed as well. So, you know, the tradition of covering up mirrors after somebody dies or otherwise they'll be trapped. Well, this mirror was said to not have been covered up. And so they were trapped there in that spirit. Interesting. There's lots of little... There's lots of reported deaths that apparently happened on the property

and people who haunted because of that. Apparently, why can't it do all of them? I don't know. It's a good question. Lock, stagger, or crawls. I mentioned there's a lot of reported deaths or murders that happened there. It's actually reported that there's 10 murders that occurred in the house

but Actual records actually only show that there was one murder and was that that happened there? it was a William winter so William drew winter. He apparently is said to be the ghost that walks daggers or crawl Drew Winter, he apparently is said to be the ghost that walks, staggers, or crawls. Oh, okay. He, at one point, I believe, let me pull this up. So yeah, so the house was sold to Ruffin Grey Sterling, right? I mentioned that guy.

Yeah. And his wife, Mary Cobb Sterling. And so in 1865, Mary and Ruffin, they hired William Drew Winter to manage the plantation and to be their lawyer as well. And so in 1871, William Winter was actually shot on the front porch of the house by a man named E.S. Weber. Okay.

Not entirely sure what the cause was. It probably was some type of legal dispute since Winter was a lawyer. But yeah, he died on the front porch of this house. So that's the only confirmed murder. This murder? 1871. Yeah, you could shoot anyone at that point.

Yeah, it really wasn't like, investigated much. Like it just kind of like, oh, I don't like this thing you did. Bam. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But while I was doing research, I found some really good actually firsthand recounts from people who have stayed at the place.

Okay, I was gonna be like, is it from like the slaves, like the family, the people that have stayed overnight? No, so modern, modern people have stayed the night, yeah. So a couple from Reddit, one from Quora. Okay, I have not like opened Quora in so long. I know, I haven't opened Quora in so long either. So, this comes from user StarshineFairy on Reddit, which is really cute. They say,

I've been to the Myrtles plantation three times and have spent the night twice. I had a few things happen and was wondering if anyone else ever spent the night and experienced anything. The first time I had slept at the Myrtles plantation, we experienced things before it was even nighttime. I had went with my fiance and we chose one of the cheaper rooms on the right side of the house. I can't remember the name of the room, but after going up the stairs you took a right and went to the last room on the left. I believe they said a soldier had stayed in there and he had lost a leg or foot. Anyways, as we got in the front door we were overcome

with the smell of cigar smoke. It was pungent and overwhelming, almost as if someone was standing next to us smoking one. I asked my fiancé if he smelled it, and he said yes. It disappeared as quickly as it had came, but I brushed it off thinking maybe someone had snuck a cigar hit in from a different room, and we were possibly just catching a whiff of it. While we were walking to the room,

I asked my fiance if he knew of the superstition about the upside down keyholes there and was explaining that it's supposed to prevent spirits from entering the building. As soon as I finished my sentence... That is one trick I did not know. Yeah. Yeah. Me neither. As soon as I finished my sentence, my fiance turned on the antique lamp in the room and the bulb exploded It startled us, but I chalked it up to the lamp just being old We went to the gift shop and told the lady working that we needed the bulb replaced on the lamp So she sent a maintenance guy to go replace the bulb We followed him to the room and he replaced the bulb, but it wouldn't turn on

So he said he had to replace the lamp Okay We stayed in the room when he left so that we could unpack our drinks and snacks from our bags and get ready to explore the grounds. While unpacking, it sounded and felt like someone was hitting a cane against the floor. I could feel the vibration from where I was standing and told my fiancé that something wasn't right. He said that maybe it was someone downstairs in the room below us banging a broom on the ceiling trying to tell us we were walking too loud. The problem with that theory was that there wasn't a guest bedroom below us. In fact it was the dining room and there weren't any tours going on nor were any guests allowed in that section of the house.

I'd also feel like that'd be weird to do. To me it's kind of... it would be just like at the ceiling like poking up with a cane. Especially if you're like in a dining room. Anyway, keep going. Yeah. Also, like in a hotel, like just go up to the door. I don't know. Yeah. To me, it sounded like someone hitting a can on the floor to get someone's attention from below. We went outside into the guest shop and asked if anyone had. If anyone was in the main part of the house and told her what happened, she told us that

the room in the main entrance of the house was reserved, but the guests hadn't checked in yet, and that there wasn't anyone in that part of the house, nor could they get into the dining area because things are locked up. We thanked her and didn't make a big deal of it and went exploring. Fast forward to that night, we were both sound asleep until I woke up with the feeling of someone watching me. We had left the new lamp on so we could see if we woke up and had to go use the bathroom. Well, I woke up and could feel someone watching me.

I turned towards my fiancé thinking that he was awake and not able to sleep. His eyes were closed and he was in a deep sleep. I sat up and scanned the room until I found the source of what was causing my feeling of being watched. Standing at the end of the bed, about two feet from it, I see a man standing there with smoke swirling in front of his face like he had just taken a drag of a cigar. I had only seen the upper part of his body and he was staring at me. After about 10 seconds of staring back at him I said nope and promptly laid my head on the pillow and pulled the blanket over my head and forced myself to fall back Okay, the next morning. I told my fiance what happened. He asked why I didn't wake him up

I told him I wasn't about to do anything else but go back to sleep I don't want us to both be staring awake at this ghostly man. We left later that afternoon to head home Love that. Don't know if I would be the type of person that goes, nope, and covers my head up. I would definitely wake up my fiance. Yep. Yep. Yeah.

Um, their posts continue to say, a year later, we returned to spend the night there, this time choosing a different room. Their post continued to say, nor did I wake up that night. Well, we ended up calling it a night around 9 p.m. and settled down for bed. There was a small luggage rack in the room, so I had placed it beside the bed and put our phones, my eyeglasses, his wallet, and my charger on it. We went to sleep and woke up the next morning. I reached for my glasses and my phone, I didn't feel anything off the luggage rack.

I sat up thinking everything must have fallen on the ground from me maybe bumping it in my sleep. I looked on the ground beside the luggage rack and couldn't find anything, so I woke him up thinking we were robbed. I got up and walked to the bedroom door that separated the rooms, but the lock was still in place. Confused, I turned around and noticed that everything that was on the luggage rack was now scattered in the middle of the room. It was impossible for it to have gotten there unless someone picked everything up and threw it across the room. Someone didn't want them in there. Mm-hmm.

Everything was intact and nothing was broken, so we decided to just pick it up and go downstairs for breakfast. While eating breakfast, we happened to be sitting across from the couple who spent the night in the adjoining room from ours. They asked if we had woken up that night and if everything was alright. We told them we slept throughout the night only woke recently. They told us that they heard a bunch of commotion coming from our room and we were wanting to knock to see if we were okay, but chose not to. They said they never heard us and figured we were asleep until they woke up to the sounds of banging and things being thrown. I told them about how our things weren't on the luggage rack whenever I woke up and couldn't figure out why until I noticed everything scattered across

the room. They said it was so loud and didn't understand how we weren't woken up from it. Yeah. We didn't understand either. That's what I was thinking of too. Yeah. They have to go back a third time. That's one experience a user had. Yeah. Now there's another person who on a different post said something. Their name is user Burtonesqs, underscore strange. They said, I have a couple stories from an evening. We were there in March of 2019.

It was actually a gift, my gift to myself for landing a job because why wouldn't I want to go to a haunted place for that? Fair. My mom and I took an evening tour in the first room with the famous mirror that continuously smudges to look like a face, even when it has been cleaned and polished. The one that contains Sarah and the kid. Oh, so that's the mirror. Um, it's that one, yeah.

We were standing in the back corner right next to the closed door to the parlor. This is also next to the front door of the home with a large porch. We heard children giggling and talking quietly and since there were no children on our tour, assumed that a family with children were outside the front door waiting for another tour or just hanging out on the porch. A few rooms later, we made it to the other side of that door

and into the parlor. Our guide stopped her story abruptly and apologized. She said the children are playing with her skirt and she needs to fix it. She then told us that the spirits of the children like to play in the parlor and love to mess with her dress. She said their favorite spot was in the corner by the door my mom and I had been standing on the other side of. We looked at each other and both had goosebumps. At the end of the tour I looked at the many photos I had taken. For some reason there were multiples of each photo.

Some there were two, some three or four. Only one was clear and the other duplicates would be completely blurred. I even had a photo I didn't recognize taking. It was off the floor. When I talked to the gift shop about the weird photos, they said that it is common. They said the spirits like to mess with the camera and take extra pictures. Ah. Good to know. So, kind of interesting. That's interesting. Yeah.

Because usually electronics is one of the things that tend to go haywire. So the lamp and the other story and then the camera on this one. Yeah. And So the lamp and the other story and then the camera on this one. Yep. And one more that I'll read out. This is the Quora story. This is from a person named Shauna Riley. She said, I have been to the Myrtles Plantation dozens of times since childhood. Visit it at least once every couple of years, even if it's just to stop by and shoot some photos from the outside.

I live about an hour away. And I've spent the night there on three separate occasions. I love the place and have always been drawn to it. Whether it's haunted though is not something I can say unequivocally. I believe it most likely is, but feel everyone should check it out for themselves and form their own conclusion. I wish I had ample evidence to share. Stories and photos, but I do not. The truth is,

in all the many years I've gone there, all the times I have slept overnight and prowled around the quiet house and darkened grounds, all the hundreds of photos I have snapped at all hours of the day and night, I have nothing that really stood out except for one actual experience I would call paranormal in my personal perceptions. There is a strange air about the place, especially in the stillness of 3am. It's like you've stepped back in time. As I said, I believe in the paranormal and I do believe the Myrtles Plantation is haunted, but I haven't had a direct experience of these hauntings.

That certainly isn't to say they aren't happening, they just haven't happened to me. I do believe there is something going on at the plantation. It's one of the reasons, other than my simple love of the place, that keeps bringing me back. The one thing I did experience which was certainly paranormal but not necessarily an intelligent haunting was only sound. But it was certainly not a sound that was taking place in the physical world or in the time and place I happen to be experiencing it. It's quite difficult to explain but it was a unique experience.

That happened the first time I slept overnight, in 2001. I know also that the girls in the room next to us had their shoes moved while they slept. They were so scared upon waking and seeing this, they left immediately and did not stay for breakfast. The interesting thing is that the strange noise we heard from about 3am until the sun rose sometimes seemed to be coming from their room. Again, it's something I think everyone should try and experience for themselves. Even if you don't get a paranormal experience, you get to visit a lovely antebellum home in St. Francisville, Louisiana, one of the most beautiful little historic towns in the US. If you make the trip, be sure to also

check out the Grace Episcopal Church and Cemetery, where many of the families who once lived in the Myrtles are now buried. Nice. That was very informative. I like it. I like how they're like, it's not an intelligent haunting. Yeah, it's just like something that happens. Yeah, that's cool. That's kind of cool. Now, I will leave off with one thing as is customary with, I don't know, customary with how I like to end my paranormal cases. Okay. I wasn't sure where you were going with this. Something to kind of entirely disprove.

Fair, no, go for it. A lot of people are paranormal. Yeah. Yeah. You know the whole legend of Chloe, the slave who killed Sarah Woodruff, it's likely not true. There is actually no historical documentation that supports it.

The US federal census shows that in 1820 there were five slaves there and in 1830 there were 32 slaves. And so there's documentation, but in none of this documentation is there ever note of the Woodruffs owning a slave named Chloe or Chloe or anything like that. Okay. The legend also says that Sarah as well as her two daughters Mary Octavia and the other girl Cornelia. Yeah Cornelia Gale? Yeah Cornelia Gale... Yeah, Cornelia Gale? Yeah, Cornelia Gale. Yeah, yeah, yeah. There we go. That was right. None of them were actually poisoned.

Mary Octavia, she lived. She survived them into her adulthood. And Sarah and Cornelia, they died, like I mentioned earlier to yellow fever back then. Okay, so It's a virus. So fever chills headache a lot of things like that, so See It's not true from my point of view, but there's that makes a lot of sense That makes a lot of sense. That makes a lot of sense. Like, here's the census, here's... That they got to live and that one of them died from yellow fever, not from poiseumine. Yeah. Mm-hmm.

Very logical. And I'm fine with that. Yeah. Well, there's the... there's my case, the Myrtles Plantation. I don't know if I was gonna to add this in or not, but I think sort of as a PS, an addendum at the end of my case, because case over and now I just want to add something in. There's a review on TripAdvisor for the Myrtles plantation. Okay, I'm curious now. It's a one-star review. It's a one-star review. It says, a well-rehearsed ghost story. This person said, my daughter had read stories about

the Myrtles plantation and really wanted to see it in person. We scheduled a mystery tour for 7 p.m. I thought that the tour at night would add to the experience. An old plantation home with an interesting past at night. I was very disappointed in the tour. The ghost story is well rehearsed and the whole tour feels like you are watching a theatrical production of the ghost of Myrtle's Plantation. The drama department may be proud, but don't waste your money on the tour. The furnishings and artwork in the house are not from the house, just pieces from the time period. The tour guide said very little about the house itself, just told ghost stories, some personal, and slammed a door that scared the younger kids.

Very disappointing tour. I would have liked to have seen slash heard more about the house. Ah, okay. Ah! You are getting the people that are going on a night tour that want the historical things. No, yeah, that's kind of crazy like don't go on a night tour if you want the history Yeah, go on a historic day tour if you want the history go on a paranormal night tour if you want the paranormal stuff Like I get his point. I get the point But at the same time as soon as I hear like they told ghost stories that wanted more history

You did sign up for a ghost tour You did sign up for a nighttime ghost tour But at the same time, as soon as I hear, like, they told ghost stories, they wanted more history. You did sign up for a ghost tour. You did sign up for a nighttime ghost tour. That's kind of on you, buddy. I love that. Anyway. I think going forward, if you're interested, we should find one-star Yelp reviews or just trip advisor reviews for haunted locations.

Of haunted locations? That would be so fun. That's a good idea. Because I loved it. Oh, that's cool. That was cool. That's a good idea. Yeah, we could definitely do that. Anyway, Myrtle's Plantation. Thank you for listening, folks. Thanks for listening. Thanks for being here for the last episode of 2024. For 12 months. For 25 episodes. Plus all the old news nonsense and bonus episodes. And the bonus ones.

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