Chambers of the Occult - Old News Nonsense Vol. 4

Episode Date: August 2, 2024

Old News Nonsense! Get ready for another round of quirky and bizarre historical headlines! We dive into the colorful story of Mr. Rainbow, explore the wild world of gay rodeos, and uncover the tale of... a headless chicken that defied all odds. That's not all! Meet the daredevil known as the Human Fly, laugh at the antics of kids armed with paintball guns, and visit a parrot ranch filled with feathered fun. And, of course, no episode would be complete without a spotlight on the whimsical world of clowns. Tune in for a delightful journey through these offbeat and entertaining stories from yesteryear. Don't miss out on this episode of Old News Nonsense!Send us a Text Message.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Chambers of the occult may contain content that might not be suitable for all listeners. Listener discretion is advised. All this nonsense. Hold these nonsense. Volume 4. I'm Alexis. I'm Jay. Alexis, that's Jay. And I'm Kai. Hi. Did you say you were holding a row in number 04? Yeah, no, I was holding up like four fingers to be like, you know, volume 4 for volume
Starting point is 00:00:55 4. I'm Kai. I'm Jay. I'm Alexis. I'm Jay. I'm Jay. I'm Jay. I'm Jay.
Starting point is 00:01:03 I'm Jay. I'm Jay. I'm Jay. I'm Jay. I'm Jay. I'm Kai. Hi. Did you say you were holding a Roman numeral four? Yeah, no, I was holding up like four fingers to be like, you know, volume four for all those numbers. Oh, I was like, cool. I was like, how do you hold Roman numerals? Um... One through four? Or one through three? Technically like...
Starting point is 00:01:20 Oh, how would... You could... I mean, wouldn't technically... You make a V and then put a one behind it and that's four. Oh, yeah, that's yeah Cool So no, they're not my fingers are not Roman So welcome back everyone to all these nonsense We have more nonsense for you from the past. Widowy. Widowy.
Starting point is 00:01:52 Yeah. Guys, okay, okay, like listeners, like in your free time, if you just want, if you just need in your free time if you just want if you just need something to do go on newspapers.com and go to the clipping section and just type in random shit. There'll be some really fun newspapers in there and if you really like any of them send them in to us and we will read them also. I was on board with you for like 80% of the trip because I just said like, yeah, look them up, read them. But you went ahead and beyond and you were like, if you think they're funny, send them to us. Yeah, I'm always trying to, you know, find an arrangement. He was one step ahead. All right. He was. Okay. Yeah. Nevermind. That's where we get most of our newspaper clippings.
Starting point is 00:02:43 Yeah, I remind you that's where we get most of our newspaper clippings Yeah, where do we help us help us feed the algorithm to get us exposure? Our YouTube is actually doing really well, yeah, which is yeah. Yeah, so we're you Hey time for a face reveal, Alexis. I'm okay. Oh my gosh, guys. Oh my gosh. There are people who don't know what we look like. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:03:14 And I'm happy with that. Bruh. Bruh. Why do they need to know? It's nobody's business. I mean, I mean, I don't need to know but like, they still love us. Do you ever see those old pictures that were painted by kings? You know? They want to see your face so they can paint you like that.
Starting point is 00:03:41 I'm okay. I'm built like that already. They'll paint you in like cubism and then they'll send it your way. Okay, I don't I don't know if this is like a hot take or like or something like that. Um, you didn't hear me? What? Nevermind. You said no. I said no, I said something afterwards, but I don't think the mic picked it up. So like, say it again? I don't think it's like a, I did the, the, when you, when you, when you put a cigarette butt out, that it was a hot. How is that relevant?
Starting point is 00:04:23 Hot. Hot, hot tea. that news that how is that relevant hot hot hot i'm really thinking that there are two different stories happening in front of me yeah um old news nonsense no uh um no like i don't know if it's a hot take but i think that like if if you are like have an online presence, and you want to be like a social media influencer or somebody with a public platform, like a podcast, you should be showing your face. I don't know. Fair. I don't know. Fair. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:05:07 Like I'm thinking of like, especially like Twitch streamers, like really big Twitch streamers or like just people playing video games. Like I wanna know what you look like. I don't know, maybe I'm just weird, but. No, no, that's fair. Anyway, anything else you guys wanna add before we hop right into it no I had something and I lost it and I probably will just say between newspaper clippings if it comes back to me nice
Starting point is 00:05:37 cool so you're starting us off right yeah go ahead I don't remember who served us off last time but you get to do the honest. Yeah no it wasn't it isn't it Jay's turn? No I think Jay started last time. Or is it? You start with A. Wait didn't I already start recently? It doesn't matter. Oh wait that was for the yes it does it does to me because I have anxiety. Our listeners don't know. Would you like to share with them? Share what? What the A stands for? The A stands for? Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:06:16 It stands for amazing. Okay, buddy. We're going to let you get started. Go ahead. You know what else a stands for? A? Yeah, it stands for all. Stands for all. Okay.
Starting point is 00:06:38 You know what I'm going to talk about today? Why do I feel like you're gonna say some pledge from somewhere? I'm gonna talk about all these gay cowboys out here. Why do I feel like you're going to start some pledge from somewhere? I'm going to talk about all these gay cowboys out here. You feel me? You know, brokeback mountain? What? Okay. So I have a newspaper clipping posted or published by the Messenger Inquirire in Owensboro Kentucky.
Starting point is 00:07:10 It was posted August 8th, Wednesday 1979. And the headliner is all the gay cowboys rodeo attempting to show that homosexuals aren't all limp wrists. So it shows this. I'm going to send it to you guys just because I love the cowboy that's in it. He looks so happy. He looks so gay, might I say. OK, that's perfect. Let's see this cowboy.
Starting point is 00:07:44 Yeah, this gay cowboy. There you go. It is in the group chat. And it starts off by saying horse trainer Dave Wilson of Portland, Oregon flashes a broad smile after successfully competing in the cow riding event in the Reno gay rodeo. Oh hell no. They were riding the cows? the cow riding event in the Reno gay rodeo. Oh hell no, they were riding the cows? The rodeo's organizer said the past weekend's event
Starting point is 00:08:16 is the only gay rodeo in the world. Quote, there's not many cowboys that are gay, end quote, Wilson noted. There's not many cowboys that are gay." end quote Wilson noted. Um this was this starts off with it's another kind of part of the article. Reno, Nevada. The big animal lurches bolts from the rodeo shoe and hauls Dave Wilson on a bone jolting lurch across the dirt. He rides it to the fence, the crowd roars, Wilson grins, tosses his white cowboy hat to the sky, and runs back to the handshakes and hugs of his friends.
Starting point is 00:08:56 He's 31 years old, by the way. And he has not competed in rodeo in 18 years. Been a long while. Wow. Yep. And he has not competed in rodeo in 18 years. Been a long while. Wow. Yep. But a lot of his competitors had also never been inside the ring.
Starting point is 00:09:16 It says, quote, there's not many cowboys that are gay, end quote, Wilson said. The Reno Gay Rodeo, which ended Sunday, quote, is the only gay rodeo in the world so far. And quote said organizer Phil Ragsdale is his name. Oh, do you think it's still there? I don't know. Reno. Let me look it up.
Starting point is 00:09:40 Reno Gay Rodeo. Yeah. Reno, gay, rodeo. Nope. The last thing. It says. Oh, there's a lot of different dates. It says it goes up until the 70s, 80s, 90s. It really ranges. The last. Yeah, it was around for a bit yeah.
Starting point is 00:10:09 The game companies were doing that thing for a bit. Yeah the this this article was published like four years or after having the gay rodeo around so it's been open for four years now. gay rodeo around. So it's been open for four years now. And I'm not sure if you guys want to read me, want me to read the whole thing, because you can see how long it is. Go for it, because we see it, but our listeners don't. Yeah. OK. Yes, very true. Unless you follow our Instagram page, then you might. We can follow along.
Starting point is 00:10:47 Yeah. And it was, it was strictly elderly people would be in the audience too, which makes sense. It's like I feel like elderly people would get a kick out of that. Just watching a bunch of gay cowboys having a really age group wouldn't. Get Cowboys having a really age group wouldn't. Probably like 80. Lush.
Starting point is 00:11:38 What do you consider as a stopping ageist? Yeah, I'm never answering a question from you guys ever again. And then it says, quote, I just thought it would be a good way to show that the gays aren't strictly stereotyped as limp wrists, end quote. It's kind of cute. That was said by Ragsdale. I did mention his name before he was the organizer of this event. And with it's then the article continues to say with their withered faces and dirty Levi's, the Cowboys and much of the audience would blend easily into any Nevada ranch scene. But there were signs this rodeo was different. Wilson rode a cow.
Starting point is 00:12:34 There was bull riding, but most of the amateur riders in that event were dumped to the dirt as soon as they left the chute. Vincent Allen of San Francisco, who settled on to the back of a black three quarter ton bowl as the animal bellow people hanging over the bull quote, let him cool down a bit. End quote. And the bowl rolled its eyes. Alan licked his lips. The shoe opened in a second Alan flipped over over, um, head over heels, thudded onto the ground and scampered away from the bull's hooves. There was a first time as a bull rider, he said he would do it again. Uh, first time ropers had trouble snaring calves,
Starting point is 00:13:41 which were chased back to the pens, not by traditional rodeo clowns, but by comic drag queens, one in a silver glitter bra and a wig which kept slipping off. During frequent breaks in the rodeo action, the stands shook as a Texas-based country band playing rollicking Hank Williams music. Men danced with men, women danced with women. Outside the gate, one of the buses which brought spectators from California was labeled quote gay line tours, end quote. Jerry Garlock of Los Angeles said, I expected a little more of the radio itself. But what I'm enjoying most is the audience, the camaraderie. End quote. Some San Francisco gay groups urged a boycott of the radio rodeo to protest Nevada's laws against homosexuality and state failure to ratify the Equal Rights Amendment. But Ragsdale said he hadn't run into much resistance to the event from the
Starting point is 00:14:55 Nevadans. He said the biggest problems came when he first started. Local ranchers wouldn't rent livestock to the gay rodeo. He wanted to remain relatively anonymous, but only a few of the 70 to 80 competitors chose the red. No photo numbers. Wilson wins slightly when he was asked about rejecting the red tag. Quote, this may cost me my job. End quote. He said, quote, I'm dealing with very straight people every day, straight judges at tour shows. I'm just going to have to see. End quote. Okay. And that's how the article ends. Still a lot of that. Definitely. I think we need to bring back gay rodeos. That's what I've been thinking. I like to imagine that they just got relocated or shut down and opened somewhere else.
Starting point is 00:15:55 What if we had just the place? What if we had gay rodeos? Like just the three of us? No work. Oh, I was like, I don't think three people can have like and call it a rodeo. Yeah, no, no, no, no, we got to get the whole gang together. They would like to, I like to imagine they're all not opposed to it. Yeah, I think instead of our movie night, we should do a roadie. We should have a good one. I would be so down for a rodeo night with with Beetlejuice in
Starting point is 00:16:37 the background, a Beetlejuice gay rodeo night. Okay, like this, you might want to try a rodeo first. Yeah, I think let's like choose one or no. No. Why can't we choose both? You got to build up to it. You can't just jump to the top. Yes, I can. No, no. It's like the same when you're climbing the mountain. No, it's too much. No, no, I'll do it. No. Anybody else would support me. If Isabelle's listening to this. I know Isabelle would support me. If Isabelle is listening to this, I know Isabelle would support me.
Starting point is 00:17:07 Isabelle would say yes, let's do it, but let's build up to it. Isabelle would tell you to take your jacket from the lounge. So. Alright. Let's move on. It was next. Okay, keep going with the article or is that it? That was it.
Starting point is 00:17:28 Okay. Yeah, it ends kind of abruptly. I mean just like how old gay rodeos end. Yeah, weirdo. It's only fitting. You know, they get boycotted and then shut down. Yeah. Yeah. I mean this was also down. So yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:17:45 I mean, this was also like 50 years ago. Yeah. So yeah, I don't know how to do that. Different from now. Who do you? Okay. Actually, though, like circling back to who do you think the target audience would be? Like, obviously, the intended audience is like other like queer people.
Starting point is 00:18:00 Yeah. But like, do you think there would be lots of like straight men that like would watch for entertainment? I think straight. No, no, like, like in the way you watch like, like a chicken fight, you know, for energy or like people just reading the newspaper for like, you know, some gossip. Yeah. Or like watching like, like a, like a dog fight, like a pit bull fight. I think that would be what would be happening. They're trying to get like, you know, like keep finding the issue Like we don't actually care But it's just like dumb entertainment. It's like ah gay men
Starting point is 00:18:34 and like In the 70s, right? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, because there was nothing else to do. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, they had gay rodeos and newspaper. That was it. All right. I guess I'm one next. Yeah. Oh, I was gonna say, okay, cool. Oh, okay. If you want to go, you can. Let me see if I have anything to follow up rodeo. Okay. Rodeo. Oh goodness gracious. Okay. Okay.
Starting point is 00:19:07 Okay. I guess I will have a story for y'all. I mean, I do anyway, but I was like, this is, best time is about Susan. Oh, Susan Ho. Susan Hale. Oh. Susan Ho. Susan Hale. Okay. That is kind of cool. I did not expect that reaction from either one of you.
Starting point is 00:19:38 So this is from the Statesman's Journal in Salem, Oregon. Saturday, September 8th of 1888. So this is from the Statesman's Journal in Salem, Oregon, Saturday, September 8th of 1888. Damn. Damn. That was a long ago. Two years after... Two years, 1888?
Starting point is 00:19:58 After Sarah started building. Blood House. Oh, I wasn't sure where you were going with this. I wasn't sure either for a second there. Because you just said two years and I'm like up or down. So this, like I said, is in Oregon and it's Susan Hale's Parrot Ranch. Wait, what? Carrot Ranch? Parrot.
Starting point is 00:20:27 Parrot. Susan Hale's Parrot Ranch. Okay. I love it. And it starts with, I am sorry to be compelled to record the failure of a remarkable enterprise divided by a Boston woman, Ms. Susan Hale, who two
Starting point is 00:20:48 years ago undertook to establish a parrot ranch in the state of Michoacan. This parrot's worth to be kept within the walls of an old convent garden and carefully taught elementary English so as to be able to interpret for winter tourists, entertain winter tourists from the States. It was a design to have the... go ahead. So she had a parrot ranch just to entertain people. Taurus, yeah. That's fun. Yeah, why? It says it was a designed to have the parrots brought up under I think that's a type of tree. Anesthesia? No, no, I said I think that's a type of
Starting point is 00:21:44 tree. I'm kidding. Oh, I was like, what do you mean? Anesthesia? No, no, I said I think that's a type of tree. Oh, I was like, what do you mean? Anesthesia? Wait, what's going on? Oh, it was a design to have the parents brought up under... Unitarian. Thank you. I was like, because it's yeah, it just says, it was designed to have the parrots brought up under Unitarian. I think the under Unitarian fucked me up. So that their moral nature could in no way be contaminated. And then it continues to say. And then it continues to say, keepers were selected with a card and a board of trustees to appoint. But I'm sorry to say that a week ago, a visitor to the ranch discovered that, out into the
Starting point is 00:22:39 low moral tone of the keepers, the parrots were all swearing like pirates. And therefore, ruin the purpose of which this ingenious enterprise started. Although it's possible that a swearing parrot may be useful in hurrying up waiters in restaurants and reproach hotel mozos who let the hot water cool in the corner, it is indeed lamentable that Ms. Hale witnessed the most enterprising of New England's women should have been so deceived
Starting point is 00:23:24 by her agents in Mexico. So I'm thinking about it in my head, like I'm piecing together like, like a timeline of what's happening. Yeah, yeah. So we're happening. Yeah, yeah. Alexis knows this. I need to establish a timeline to understand anything. No fair. Also, for a fact... Oh wait, sorry, continue. No, go ahead.
Starting point is 00:24:01 Unitarianism is pretty popular in Romania. Did you just just know that? Off the dome or? Or? How do you know that? Because it's involved with Romania. I know everything when it comes to Romania. They're...
Starting point is 00:24:20 What's their animal? It's a... Oh, I actually don't know that. It's a, it's a, it's like a Christianity, I guess. Their animal? No, Unitarianism. Oh yeah, but I was asking you what was their animal. I didn't know if you knew that.
Starting point is 00:24:43 Oh, let's Google that. Oh, so you don't know it. I thought that's if you knew that. Oh let's google that. Oh so you don't know it? I thought that's what you were responding to. I told you that. No I said I don't know that actually. What is, let's google that. Continue while you, while I'm googling. Google it. Well yeah, timeline Kai was that this lady purchased a ranch to raise parents that would entertain tourists. And at some point the people that she raised, she hired, ended up teaching the parents how to swear like that. How to swear and it just destroyed the entire operation. Yeah. Yeah. But what was the animal? Eagle. Eagle. Yeah. Why are we on the moon? I don't know, brother. Because she was talking about, what did you talk about? No, yeah, the Unitarianism. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, we really got sidetracked. Hi, take us away.
Starting point is 00:25:48 Yeah, right now. Right now? Right now? 321. Okay, this is from right now. Right now. This is from the Associated Press, the Clarion Ledger from Jackson, Mississippi. It was published on Wednesday, February 28th, 2000. Are you sure? Why was I talking like this for a second? I don't know. You started like that?
Starting point is 00:26:15 When were we posted? When were we posted in Jackson, Mississippi? When were you? Canada changed me. Canada changed me. So this is titled, Catching Paintball Shooters' Priority Highway Patrol says... No. That's stupid. 94.
Starting point is 00:26:43 The Mississippi Highway Safety Patrol says it intends to crack down on individuals who are using traffic on busy I-10 as paintball gun targets. Troopers said several vehicles traveling the interstate near the Harrison Jackson County line have been hit with paintballs in recent weeks. I think it's so funny. I'm not supporting it, but I think it's so funny that there's kids just with paintball guns, just shooting cars. It's something kids would do. Seriously. But then, okay, what makes it even funnier is keep in mind these are kids who are just messing around with paintball guns, right? You're like four years old.
Starting point is 00:27:25 Yeah. Well, I'm probably a little older. Yeah, you don't want to give a four-year-old a paint gun machine. Why not? Go play. Let's move on. Start them with the crossbow. Yeah, that's better actually.
Starting point is 00:27:47 Get them prepared for the zombie apocalypse. Hunger Games with Josh Hutcherson. No. But yeah, thinking of how it's probably just kids messing around makes it super stupid to me. Yeah. Makes it super stupid to me. The article continues to say, Sergeant Joe Garzo of the patrol's coast office said officers are taking measures to round up the shooters. Quote, we're getting ready to set up an undercover operation and they will be prosecuted to the
Starting point is 00:28:21 fullest degree. End quote, Kazuo said. Gosh. At this point, I'm curious if like, what color do those vehicles look now? Painted. Yeah. I don't know. So they're getting ready to set up
Starting point is 00:28:41 their undercover operation, they'll be prosecuted. Article says, he said in recent years, there had been incidents in the same area of rocks being thrown at vehicles and someone directing fireworks and bottle rockets towards the interstate. Juveniles who live in or near an area subdivision are suspected, he said. Gazzo said authorities are concerned
Starting point is 00:29:04 that the paintball attacks could trigger a wreck. Quote, if it wrecks, they and their parents will be responsible, Gazzo said. Of course. Yeah. Which is like completely valid. If they cause a wreck, yes. So they do need to be stopped. It's not safe for them to shoot cars with paintballs.
Starting point is 00:29:24 But come on, setting up an undercover operation to catch these kids is crazy. Like I'm thinking how do they go undercover? Do they have their child be part of the group? How do you go undercover for a group of children? No clue. Like they're the cops are sitting in the cars like at the interstate maybe like waiting to get shot and wants to do they like shoot the kids back. But like, Oh, is that what they would call undercover?
Starting point is 00:29:56 Did you say shoot the kids back? Oh, God, it took me a minute to process that. Okay, maybe not that extreme. But, um... With their own paintball guns? I mean, yeah. Yeah. I'm okay in that scenario.
Starting point is 00:30:15 The cops get into a paintball war with, like, teenagers. I feel like that would be fun. And then afterwards, the cops are like, okay, kids kids stop doing that Well, that's uh, that's um the Mississippi Highway Patrol Trying to catch some paintballers That was fun wait, oh, that was fun for the kids
Starting point is 00:30:41 Yeah, yeah, I Wonder if they were like proud or scared when they like saw it on the newspaper. Proud. They would be very proud. They'd be like, they'd be laughing. They'd be like, the cops are after us. Got you. There. Okay. Alexis. Yeah. What do you have for us now? I have a do you guys have any posters in your room? I know. Well, I have a couple.
Starting point is 00:31:15 Do you have any? Yeah. Like what kind of posters? Like video gamer? No, no. Oh, never mind work posters work posters oh okay okay okay girl you scared me
Starting point is 00:31:36 no no work posters um well i have a really nice poster it was one of the first posters I ever got. And it's a poster of the It movie from 2017. And... Oh, I thought you were going to talk about your corpse husband poster. Stop it. You didn't have to expose me. Oh, Okay Anyways, I'm talking about clowns today That's what this article is talking about it is it was published by the Odessa American in Odessa Texas on Sunday, November 22nd
Starting point is 00:32:23 1998 and for the listeners, they literally just chose a clown and on Sunday, November 22nd, 1998. And for the listeners, they literally just chose a clown. And the clown is like wearing this like polka dot, white and black kind of blouse with a black tie and a vest with a design on it that kind of looks like flames to me, but sideways. I don't know. Okay. with a design on it that kind of looks like flames to me, but sideways. And then like a flower stir with some like black stocking, some clown shoes. And the headline for it is basically just clowning around.
Starting point is 00:33:00 So Kay Henry of Odessa, also known as Clinky the Clown, recently brought home the gold medal for costume and makeup competition in the senior division at the Texas Clown Association Convention in Wichita Falls. Go Clinky! Yeah! Henry and other members of the Oops! Clown Alley of the Permian Basin attended classes at the convention and competed in the art of children's entertainment. Nice.
Starting point is 00:33:41 And that is this article. Nice! Really short. Really short, but I love the picture of Clinky the Clown. Nice and that is this article nice Really sure, but I love the picture of clinky the clown he actually looks so cute and I love him Anyways we think he nice I like it thinking theinky the Clown. Clinky the Clown. But. Now, yes, what happened?
Starting point is 00:34:12 That's it for me. Okay. Are you sure? Yeah. Cool. I think honestly, I don't know why but I think in the clown seems like a girl to me like I thought Clinky was yeah, but yeah, dude. Well, his name is Henry. I mean, a girl could be named Henry. Yeah, I was gonna say. Oh my god, I love Dylan as a girl name. For most simple names, I usually honestly love switching them.
Starting point is 00:34:56 Like, I don't know, I love Alex as a girl's name. Or like. Oh, I know what you mean thank you you're welcome um but like like names that are traditionally like would go to like a guy or something like yeah I don't know I think yeah exactly I get that Bobby Bobby. Sasha. Sasha. What?
Starting point is 00:35:28 Sasha can be a guy's name as well. Really? Yeah. Oh. Leslie then. Yeah, I know Leslie. I also knew Leslie. But Leslie just seemed like a girl's name to me though.
Starting point is 00:35:44 Yeah. Yeah. I also knew Leslie. But Leslie just seemed like a girl's name to me though. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Valid. I knew a man. I know a man named Leslie. That's what I meant to say.
Starting point is 00:35:56 Oh. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Me too. I thought I was saying that too. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:36:04 Anyway. I thought I was saying that too. Yeah. Anyway, can I give you guys a story to have you think about education and people being not educated, edumacated. Oh, edumacated. I love talking about edumacation. Please edumacate me. You want to get edumacated? I want to get edumacation. Please edumacate me. You want to get edumacated? I want to get edumacated.
Starting point is 00:36:29 Okay, so this is from the Detroit Free Press of Detroit, Michigan, Sunday, October 20th, 1991. And the title of this says, Family Doesn't Fancy Visit with with feline aids in house. Oh my gosh. feline aids? What? Yeah. What does that mean? Colonel had means the cat has a yeah, Colonel had aids. feline aids. Really? Yeah. Yeah. That way he died.
Starting point is 00:37:06 I mean, I guess he contributed to it, but I think it was mostly old age. Yeah. He was like 17. That poor cat. So it starts with, so this is from like an advice column or something similar like that that's called Anne Landers. So I think people would like write their things like their issues in and they would put them on the newspaper and they would have a conversation with it kind of like last time remember. Like I'm not sure if I'm making sense. I'll just read it. Okay. It says, Dear Ann Landers, there's going to be a wedding in our family this December,
Starting point is 00:37:50 and we're all very excited. But there's something that has come up that's causing a big problem. The bride's to be the bride to be is my sister's daughter. In the past. sister's daughter. In the past, the brides-to-be is my sister's daughter. Yeah, I heard it. Okay, yeah. So she's the aunt. Yeah. Okay. In the past, when our families have visited one another, one another's homes, They lived in another city. We've always had a wonderful time. Our children enjoyed playing with the children who lived next door. They're exactly the same age. Yesterday, I received a letter from my sister. She casually mentioned that their cat Screwball. Yo, that's a very funny name. Such a sick name.
Starting point is 00:38:48 An adorable striped creature of uncertain parentage has feline aids. She wrote, the vet says that there's no chance that anyone can catch this disease from a cat, but he did caution us against letting him get around other cats. I immediately telephoned my sister and asked her if she would please, if she would please board screwball. When we come, when we come with the children for the wedding, she replied, absolutely not. It's not necessary. We have not. We have been assured that this feline virus is not transmittable to humans. No one here is the least bit concerned.
Starting point is 00:39:37 Well, and my mother-in-law says we could be insane to take such a chance. Please check with an expert and tell us what you can find out. Feeling upset and troubled. And then they replied in the same newspaper and it said, I spoke with Fred W. Scott, veterinarian and director of the Cornell Feline Health Center in Ithaca and New York. And he says, your sister is right. There is no evidence whatsoever to support the notion that feline immunology immunology, immune, immune, I can say that I've said this before, the immune deficiency virus can be transmitted to humans. Dr. Scott said detailed studies of individuals who have
Starting point is 00:40:20 tested prolo who have had prolonged contact with FDI-positive cats have failed to substantiate a single case of human infection. Although the clinical disease in cats is strikingly similar to AIDS in humans, the virus are distinctly different. You now have the word of an You don't have to expose her cat out like that in the newspaper to everyone. Widowing. Isn't that like against Animal HIPAA or something?
Starting point is 00:41:12 Yeah, my cat has AIDS. You can't just share that on the newspaper, Bridget. There's flaws. Bridget. I don't know where I got Bridget from. Mendler. Bridget Mendler? Yeah. What is that girl doing? I love, she is, oh my god, she's killing it is what she's doing. She's working with NAFSA, I believe. Oh yeah, she got like two degrees or something, right? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:41:47 And she's like a doctor now or something? I don't know. And a lawyer, I believe. Wait, I don't know. Oh my god. Yeah, she's badass, brother. Bridget Menler. There we go.
Starting point is 00:42:04 Yeah, we love her. Let us know if you like Bridget Menler, guys. Yeah. Yeah, let us know. Let us know. Cool. Oh, is that? Is that it? Yeah, that's it. That's it. Yeah, there was like the letter from the sister and the response from the professional. The cat's fate is all in the hands of, I guess, the entire internet now. So, um. What?
Starting point is 00:42:36 Hippo violations. Oh, the animal's HIPAA violation. Imagine like, let's like, obviously, yeah, like you don't need like HIPAA, whatever, but like that's so crazy to think about that like that medical info can just be like posted like that. That's kind of sick. Okay, moving on. I don't know how much of green eggs in hand that is, but I'll take it. All right.
Starting point is 00:43:02 It's me now, right? Who's next? Yeah. Tell us what you have for us. Cool. So, this one is, human fly to climb and fly. What I first- It sounds like a children's book that wasn't very successful. Yeah, just like green eggs and- The first time I read this title, I literally had to read it like five times to actually understand it.
Starting point is 00:43:49 Can you read it one more time? Human fly to climb and fly. Yeah. I was like, what? So Jack Williams, the quote human fly, will climb to the Hotel Jefferson tomorrow afternoon at 1 30 and again at 7 p.m. He will fly through the air in an airplane at 2 30 at the U.S. aviation field and will drop copies of the press citizen from cloud land. Okay. At night he will introduce a student. Can you, you just want to give me some guesses as to what this student's name is? Um, Otis. Otis. Okay. Billy Otis. Good guesses. Well,
Starting point is 00:44:45 good guesses. Well, you're wrong, of course, because this student's name is Eastman Westman. Love that. Yes, they could not make up their mind. They're like, let's do both. I feel like these are characters. Like, anyway, at night he will introduce a student, Eastman Westman, in his first building climbing stunt. In the aviation stunts, Jack will thrill all observers by hanging by his feet from the landing of a ship, standing on his head on top of the wing, walking about on the wing, etc. It will be a wonderful exhibition doubtless. Jack made a great hit here a couple of years
Starting point is 00:45:26 ago when he climbed the Jefferson and the JCS Bank under the auspices of the press citizen. And that's it. That's it, okay. The human fly, Jack Williams. He climbs stuff. Winning win. I would hope he climbs stuff. Winning win. I would hope he climbs things. Yeah. So I don't know. Jack. Sounds pretty cool. 1921. I wonder what ever happened to this guy. Let me look it up actually. Jack Williams, the human fly.
Starting point is 00:46:06 Is there? I don't know. I just found like a couple articles. Jack Williams, a famous stuntman known as the human fly climbed two buildings in downtown Henderson 100 years ago. Wow. Easy. Jack Williams, a famous stuntman known as the human fly, climbed two buildings in downtown Henderson 100 years ago. Wow.
Starting point is 00:46:26 Easy. The North Dakota adventures of Jack Williams, the human fly. It's actually a lot about this guy. It's kind of funny. The human fly. Cool. I like it. And that's it.
Starting point is 00:46:38 Alexis. Yeah? What are you doing? Tying a rope. And that's it. Alexis. Yeah? What are you doing? Tying a rope. Let's go. Let's go. I was so hoping you were going to make like a reference like that or something.
Starting point is 00:46:59 She's learning. She is. What is it called? Osmosis? Yeah. We're like, slowly absorbing it from us. Yeah, wait are we? Alright, what do you got for us?
Starting point is 00:47:11 Now, what's there to have for us? Oh, it's me. Okay, that's what I have. Okay. So, let me tell you guys a story. West Philadelphia born and raised. Honestly guys where I spent most of my days but one day I was chilling out maximum knocks and all cool and this is when I was living in Florida. Since like before I was eight, I always had this stuffed monkey with me.
Starting point is 00:47:53 And that monkey's name was Rainbow. I had Rainbow with me everywhere. I took him literally everywhere with me. I loved him so much. He was my favorite stuffed animal ever. Unfortunately, I have not seen him since I was about eight. What happened? I accidentally left him in Florida and I told my family to ship it back to me and they never did. I'm
Starting point is 00:48:27 pretty sure they sold it or gave it away or something. What the hell? Oh, you never got that back. But his name was published. By the Rayleigh register. In Becly, West Virginia on Tuesday, October 9th, 1973. And his name is Mr. Rainbow. Let me send you the link to take a looksy tootsy at this guy. For my listeners, he's about like six feet, six foot one, maybe older gentleman with a beard kind of like a he's got a snout on him. I was kind of a stick actually.
Starting point is 00:49:23 Yeah. Some striped pants with some looks like bowling shoes to me. He's rocking it. Yeah, he's got a black kind of shoulder padded long sleeve kind of thing tucked in. And he has some sunglasses on with a nice little hat. He got, oh my God, he kind of looks like he's like a, like a chief or a soldier or something. He does. Yeah. Or like Colonel Sanders.
Starting point is 00:49:55 Or like Colonel Sanders. Yup. Just imagine Colonel Sanders. That's what I was thinking of. Cause I was like, it's, yeah, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. What do we so Carl Sanders, a.k.a. Mr. Rainbow. Mr. Rainbow, a self-proclaimed ambassador of goodwill,
Starting point is 00:50:20 John Borkin or Borchon, something like that of a Connellsville, Pennsylvania, who calls himself Mr. Rainbow, made Maine his 24th state on a coast-to-coast goodwill mission. Borkin is shown here in Augusta. Mr. Rainbow, a 65-year-old retired barber, is making the tour in a converted bus equipped with an electric chair, a coffin, a former pet dog now stuffed and a live monkey called Freddy. And that is everything. But it is kind of dope.
Starting point is 00:51:01 It is dope. It is dope. Mr. Rainbow looks sick. He literally when I saw Mr. Rainbow, I thought Renaissance or Reservoir Dogs movie. I don't know if you guys have seen it. I have not, no. It's like Clue kind of. They have the Mr. Blue, Mr. Blonde, Mr. Purple. Oh okay.
Starting point is 00:51:28 Yeah but it's not clue. Can you go over again what like he went around like the stuff that was in his bus because I think we kind of skipped over that a little bit. Yeah yeah I was waiting for one of you guys to say something about that. He had an electric chair. Thank you, because you were going through it so fast that I couldn't stop you. Oh, OK, an electric chair. Crazy, wild, a coffin. I mean, a guy's got to sleep. A former pet dog now stuffed is what it says in freaking parentheses and then it says
Starting point is 00:52:08 and a live monkey called Freddy with a y no i.e. Nice. Yep. So we need to find Mr. Rainbow, because I want to meet Freddy. I don't think you guys heard it, Dan. Heard what? What? I played the like, the Vine Boom sound effect. No, I didn't hear it. No, I wouldn't hear it too.
Starting point is 00:52:44 We'll have to test it. An electric chair. Boom. A coffin. Dude, that's so fun! I wish the mic could pick it up. That's tragic. I don't have the noise suppression on but Mr. Rainbow everyone, I hope you liked it. Did you say rest? I said mr. Rainbow everyone I
Starting point is 00:53:17 Hope you liked it. I Very much enjoyed it. Okay I very much enjoyed it. Okay. Thank you. Like dead silent. Okay. Cool. All right. I kind of want to be Mr. Rainbow. So. It could be doable. Yeah. Halloween. I actually just bought the whole outfit on Amazon right now. It is coming up. You have enough time for costumes?
Starting point is 00:53:47 You bought the Colonel Sanders face? Yeah. I'm going to be Colonel Sanders for Halloween. Sick. I'm going to be finger licking good. Stop. Please, please stop. I'm just going to get started.
Starting point is 00:54:06 Yeah. So my story is about a chicken. OK. Yeah, let's change subjects to chickens. Yes, I'm so down. And this is from the desert news in Salt Lake City, Utah from Wednesday, September 19th, 1945. And it says, Mike loses his head, but goes right on living.
Starting point is 00:54:32 He Huh? For how long? You don't have to wait for long because it says that 11 day wonder. The 11 day wonder. And all poultry dumb Mike, the headless rooster held his first press conference today and post for photographers. Where do you find these articles, brother? Same place as you do.
Starting point is 00:55:04 And it says, um, how does it go to go on living with your head chopped off, Mike? He asked. Mike had no comment to make, make nothing to say. He did print his feathers, however. Yes, people have been snickering when poultrymen H.B. Wade and Al Al A Olsen of Fruticolo said that they have decapitated that they had a decapitated living rooster so they brought Mike into Salt Lake City to prove to skeptics that they haven't been that they haven't seen everything. I think that like, I think once I see a headless chicken survive for 11 days, then I can like officially say I've seen everything. Yeah, kind of like why they took it to Salt Lake City.
Starting point is 00:56:00 They're like, here you go. It's been 11 days. That's insane. Yeah. That is crazy. And then it continues to say, University of Utah scientists have been invited to look Mike over. Mike, only another rooster two weeks ago and worth $1.50, sprung into prominence by his refusal to quit this earth.
Starting point is 00:56:35 And even though his head has been severed with an axe, it began like this. Mr. Olsen decided 11 days ago that he wanted chicken for dinner. A four months old rooster was chosen and also acts its head off. The Poultry Man's astonishment, the rooster reacted as if he had only received
Starting point is 00:56:57 a slight blow. He walked around practically as if nothing had happened. Oh, and he was a little sticky, but I'm a son of a gun. And he, oh, he was a little sticky, but I'm a son of a gun if he didn't try to crow. Does that make sense? I feel like it makes, I feel like it's not you. I feel like just the way they talk back then is so like...
Starting point is 00:57:26 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, it's so funny. So funny. Yeah. And it just says, Olsen said, if it was... That does not make sense either. Okay, but like I know that like chickens can like stay alive for like a little bit after they get their heads caught up like But 11 days? But 11 days is crazy So he says mate you've met a rooster. What am I? What am I a rooster? See it does not make sense in my mind
Starting point is 00:58:01 But it says we thought we thought would die, but he didn't. We started feeding him grain with a dropper. We got out every morning expecting to find him a dead chicken. But there he was, as healthy as he could be, peering himself, trying to grow. Some of the Humane Society people think that it's misery, but to look at him. Mike is in no pain, Mr. Olsen partners, and Mike thinks. What else? Perhaps Mike doesn't even know his head was chopped off. Anyway, he's worth more than $1.50 now. The rooster did not bleed after the decapitation, Mr. Olsen said. It was just like he was painted
Starting point is 00:58:48 with a red brush. That was all. I must have cut exactly right. Evidently, I didn't get his base brain, Mr. Olsen said. We're anxious to hear what the scientists say. Is it something though, don't you think? I do think. I love the description of, like he was painted with like red. I was like, well, yeah, he, you know, got his head chopped off. So. Yeah, what do we.
Starting point is 00:59:25 It's a lot of blood. That's gonna happen. I'm sending you on the group chat the little newspaper clipping so you can see him. He is a headless chicken. Rooster. Oh my God. It's just gone. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:59:46 Oh wow. How's this thing still alive? That's what we're like all curious about. That's an OG if I've ever seen one. If there's a follow-up like newspaper clipping out there like I need to find that listeners if you know of it. If you've heard of this headless chicken help us out. Please. I know I want to look up like the the science behind it. Like
Starting point is 01:00:11 did they yeah they cut just up like high enough where it didn't like fully sever the nerves for like the brain or something or like I don't know. Yeah it's one of those things that I'm just like I'm fat Jesse Hey, you study the brain is about Next week next week we can ask him yeah But yeah, that's my story story, yeah And I Guess to end us off. Hmm Let me let me bring us back to clowns for a second. Ah, okay.
Starting point is 01:00:52 So um, yeah, wait a minute. Okay. This I just closed the tab. That's crazy, brother. It happens. Maybe just don't do that. Okay, okay, buddy. You say it like it's so easy. So this was posted on the Santa Cruz Sentinel from Santa Cruz, California on Saturday, April
Starting point is 01:01:29 20th, 1996. It was posted on 420, guys. But I think it's like the Santa Cruz Sentinel, it takes articles from a bunch of different newspapers because this one originally comes from the Pasadena Star News. Yeah, I realized that a lot of newspapers will grab stories from other locations and put them in their own. Right next to this Pasadena article, there's a San Francisco article from the Associated
Starting point is 01:02:00 Press, so I don't know. But for this one, it says, Heartthrob, the clown, yearns for respect. Pasadena. So Linda Berman, aka Heartthrob, the clown, paid her dues for putting on those oversized shoes. She went away to clown camp and learned the finer points of bubble blowing and pie throwing. She's perfected her duck and weave reflexes for when kids reach for her shiny red prosthetic nose.
Starting point is 01:02:36 Driving in costume to her gigs, she only offers a quick smile and wave to the Gawkers who honk their horns. Then she changes lanes to get away, who much distraction might cause an accident. Once there, she always puts on the clown shoes before the kids can see her, sometimes hiding behind her car. An incomplete costume might cause them to question whether she's really a clown. Her reward for all of this work? The spotlight glances, grins. She says, quote, I've always wanted to be drop
Starting point is 01:03:09 dead. Gorgeous. I said, I love that. Yeah. Yeah. Who lives in Pasadena. Quote, I would like to walk into a room and have everybody look at me. Um, where do we heartthrob has that happened to her all the time? Yeah. Yeah. Like, okay, I, I want to hand them like, yes, like you go, like I would love, I would also love to be like, everybody look at me when I walk into room. But also, I feel like I would not like that at all. I don't know. Maybe it would be good at first and you just get tired of it or get into the situation. I guess like if you're playing like a character like like a clown like it is cool I don't know. Okay yeah. Yeah so yeah she says you know heartthrob has happened to her all the time but it goes
Starting point is 01:04:04 on to say too often however she sees sees the world return her painted on smile with rudeness. Kids put ice on her back, reach into her pockets when she's not looking, or grab a balloon animal without so much as a please. Quote, it sort of hurts my heart a little bit that we are in a world of people who are more about getting than giving. End quote. So true, heartthrob, so true. That's what's wrong with the world these days. Anyway, Berman wants more than to just stand up. He wants respect. Every week, Berman drives around to the other side of Los Angeles to paint kids' faces and make balloon animals at a farmer's market in a well-heeled Agora Hills.
Starting point is 01:04:51 Is an hour getting ready and two hours getting there and back? The kids spot her, not sure what to make of this purple-haired species. She turns grimaces to grins as she paints parrots and kitties on sherwick cheeks. Berman might take in $50 for her afternoon by charging a buck for each face painting or balloon. but she's doing it for fun. and besides, the real financial payoff might come when she lands a birthday party job from someone she meets.
Starting point is 01:05:14 she charges $100 an hour for those parties. she's worth it, vermin said, because she can pull off impressive tricks like encircling kids in a giant blowbuckle. Oh, I would want that clown. Me too. Widowy, yeah. Like, but for an event. But I'm gonna, I'm gonna send you guys the newspaper article and the picture of her is actually so scary. Oh I was gonna say there has to be like something that... No like I don't think it's purposely supposed to be scary but just like the black and white photo makes it look... Yeah I'm sure. I like more um yeah. Yeah and I'm not usually like scared of clones. I'm like this one's creepy. It's also I think a very bad picture. Oh it is a horrible picture yeah.
Starting point is 01:06:09 She's kind of cute. I assume it's not as scary with color in real life but the picture did do them dirty. Yeah. But that's what's the whole article praising your clowning skills. Linda Berman, the heartthrob. And what year was this again? 1996. Okay. I wonder if she still does them.
Starting point is 01:06:37 Well, she was 45 in 1996. So yeah, no. I mean, she could still be alive. She's in the clown business. I was gonna say I think it depends. Whoa why are you so age-y today? Are you saying that there's like a retirement age for like clowns? No, I'm not. Not at all. One time I met a clown and I was talking to her and she was like blowing up a balloon animal for me.
Starting point is 01:07:21 It was a couple years ago and she like, it's so funny. She was like trying to get me and my friend to like, think of going to like clown school to become clowns. It's so funny. Would you be down to take a clown class? I'd take a clown class, but I wouldn't like want to pursue being a clown. I don't know. It's a one day thing. San Francisco clown college, Kitty and I are thinking of attending one of their classes. I'll think about it. Yeah. We don't have like a date set on the calendar yet, but like it's something we want to do. It's something you want to do. Okay, cool. Yeah. I'll look into that. Thank you. Yeah. And I think that that wraps it up.
Starting point is 01:08:03 And I think that that wraps it up. Um, actually, I found an article about Mike. Oh, sick. The chicken. You did? He lived for 18 months after he was his head was cut off. Stop. 18 months? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:08:22 Not weeks. 18 months. This is a zombie chicken. So apparently your brain, your brains, or like chickens brain stems will still be intact even after decapitation. Yeah, that's why they run around. Yeah. Well, I'm not sure if anybody else knows that.
Starting point is 01:08:41 That's why I'm like clarifying, you know what I'm saying? Wow. It was 18 months wow i really gave you 11 days and it was 18 months insane what the fuck wow props to that chicken yeah well thanks for the the update yeah thank you send that you know, I mean, you did. So thank you, though. But wow. Yeah, wait, wait, wait, didn't he live 18 months? According to a scientific American. Okay. Yeah, that's so weird because there's another one here without the head. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:09:22 That's a that's a picture. Wow. Thank you. No problemo. And that's all news for you guys this week. That's episode four, old news nonsense. Hope you enjoyed your time with us. We hope you did.
Starting point is 01:09:41 I know a lot of us are very sleepy. So, yeah, I don't know. Maybe you guys are sleepy too. You know, I, I like to imagine that we've truly succeeded as, as hosts of a podcast when, when like people will listen to it to fall asleep too. Yeah. I don't know if that will ever happen because we're a trickram podcast, but... You never know. Some people like it.
Starting point is 01:10:17 Okay. I mean, okay, 100% though, this would be something that I put on at the end of the night and I'm trying to just have something on and I'd fall asleep with it on in the back. Like your white noise machine type of thing? Yeah, I kind of yeah. Yeah, I see that. Okay. Um, but anyway, this was fun. Uh, as always remember to uh, sit up straight, drink some water. Some more. Everything I haven't been doing. Take care of yourself. Pick a COVID test if you feel any symptoms. And we'll see you next week. Yeah, we'll see you next week with a with our special guest as well. Well then, bye! Bye!
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