CheapShow - Ep 383: Walk of the Shaun of the Dead
Episode Date: May 10, 2024In 2004, Shaun of the Dead was released into cinemas and its particular mix of horror and comedy quickly made it a beloved cult classic… Turns out Paul was on set as a zombie extra during the produc...tion of this movie and he has a few stories to tell about it. It’s a pity he will hardly get the chance to do so! To celebrate the film’s 20th anniversary, CheapShow decides to explore North London to hunt for some of the real life locations from the ZomRomCom hit. They’ll roam Finchley, Highgate, Crouch End and even take a long trip to South London for their final location in New Cross Gate. It’s an epic journey that has Eli trying to inject his own misinformed opinions and hijack the walk with his memories… Which means Paul can barely be able to recall his own! They’ll argue, digress and talk absolute garbage in yet another failed attempt to be taken seriously. Luckily, they manage to bump into comedian/actor Paul Putner who’ll offer a few of his own SotD stories to balance out Paul and Eli’s nonsense. See pics/videos for this episode on our website: https://www.thecheapshow.co.uk/ep-383-walk-of-the-shaun-of-the-dead Thanks to Paul Putner for joining us briefly on this walk too! Buy the book about the history of Shaun of the Dead by Clark Collis “You’ve Got Red On You” here: https://shorturl.at/fouB3 (Paul is even interviewed in it. Briefly!) Additional Music by @WhiteBatAudio And if you like us, why not support us: www.patreon.com/cheapshow If you want to get involved, email us at thecheapshow@gmail.com And if you want to, follow us on Twitter/X @thecheapshowpod or @paulgannonshow & @elisnoid www.thecheapshow.co.uk Now on Threads: @cheapshowpod Like, Review, Share, Comment... LOVE US! MERCH Official CheapShow Merch Shop: www.redbubble.com/people/cheapshow/shop www.cheapmag.shop Thanks also to @vorratony for the wonderful, exclusive art: www.tinyurl.com/rbcheapshow Send Us Stuff: CheapShow PO BOX 1309 Harrow HA1 9QJ
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Seriously, the minute I put the fucking recorder on, it's like all the cars in London go fucking
past.
Look, another one.
This is a quiet street.
Just a couple of seconds.
There's another one.
It's really busy all of a sudden.
What's all this?
Seriously, it was like we were sitting here doing nothing for ages.
We got it.
Right, we're good. Hello, welcome to Cheap Show, my name is Paul Gannon and this is my good friend.
Eli Silverman, hi everybody. Hello everyone, hello and today we are out and about with
the Walkabout episode and this one is something personal to Gannon for a change.
This is a Gannon's personal memory walk time adventure.
It is, oh there goes a train. There goes a train.
It is very personal to you Paul and I have some observations to
make during the course of today's episode about you and your relationship to this subject
of today's walk but also not to get combative from the off but a lot of the places we're
going to have deep memories for me because I'm from London.
There will be excise from the edit of this episode, because this is a Paul Gannon focused
memory walk-a-thon episode, alright?
That's fine with me, because I am majorly hungover.
Oh!
So...
Here's a new thing.
I'll just be here for support if you want to have a moment, Paul.
You're like my support dog thing that I take on a plane or whatever, aren't you?
You're my support Eli.
How long before that metaphorical dog gets metaphorically fucked by you or me, Paul?
I'm going to give it 30 to 40 seconds at this point.
It's dog sex jamboree here on Cheap Show. No, tell them.
Right, OK, so what we are doing is 20 years ago this year to when the film Shaun of the
Dead was released into the world. 2004 it was, it came out.
So funnily enough though, all the locations we went,
are going to today, are filmed in 2003.
Okay, yeah, well that's what I was gonna say.
Was it, it was a relatively long shoot, was it?
No, I don't think it was relatively long,
but I'm just saying.
It was all done the year before?
Yeah.
Often. So, most of of Shaun the Dead was filmed,
apart from one very, very obvious location,
was filmed in North London.
In and around the park, getting fucked off
with these cars and bikes.
Should we do this again?
No.
No.
There's fucking three of them in a row now.
One, two, three.
All mummy wagons.
Right, anyway, so 2004, Chill on the Dead comes out and we are doing a commemorative walk
this week on Cheap Show.
I'm getting fucked off with these cars.
Anyway, so we are in North London.
We have just got off the train at Oakley Park.
This is very quiet and has signs on the train station saying to London, trains to London. And I
got here really quick from Haringey, 20 minutes it was, door to door like 25 minutes.
It's not very interesting, I'm going to ask you to be more interesting over the, oh I
can't do this, alien in the R train.
Okay, you want interesting.
Wait, no, save it, we're going to go into the credits now.
So are you going to say something about your partner farting?
Say something about farts.
Put a pin in that one for later.
Right, so...
Yeah, you used it right.
Put a pin in it.
Thank you. Thank you.
So, today we are walking around North London
and then briefly South London
to look at some of the locations for Shaun of the Dead.
So, come with me as we walk and we talk about this very
special film. And I'm here too everybody. He is. But that'll all be based on how
much I edit him out of this very personal walk of mine today. You can't
edit everything out Paul. You wanted to do it without me as well didn't you? I
was merely tempted to do this one alone. But then I know people online go
what about Eli was in it? Well Eli makes everything better, everything, Paul's so shit on his own
why can't Eli do everything Paul does? Why can't Paul take a fucking shit without Eli being there
to be witty in the corner? Sniff sniff. Anyway let's crack on we're going to start our walk now
and the first location is about a five minute walk from where we are and we'll tell you all about it when we get there
but until now and then let's give you the credits yeah Well, we've begun our walk and no sooner could we walk a few yards away from the train station,
but we found a swing on a tree.
Hello Paul, I'm using this swing now
I'm on the top of my and now I'm on the bottom and I'm at the top again are you getting this?
Yes mate alright this wonderful disc Matt here we go. Here we go. He's off. You know
what pretty slick mate pretty slick I feel to... Well I want to have a little swing, don't I?
Whee! I am on a swi... Oh God.
You know what? I don't feel like falling over today and that was already doing a twisty thing.
It's because you were uneven on the thing. You only held on one string.
Yeah, because I've got this recorder in my hand.
I was quite trepidatious because it does look very thin.
Thin, the rope. recording me and I was quite trepidatious because it does look very thin thin yeah but anyway I just we just we can't not mention a swing can we we can't not
mention the swing so name for a street that the hook where'd you live the hook
it's probably because of the shape and it's a t-junction so it is obviously
like a curled hook. Oh okay yeah yeah like a fish hook. Not a t-junction so it's obviously like a curled... Oh, okay, yeah, yeah, yeah. Like a fish hook.
Not a T-junction, sorry, a dead end.
Yeah.
But we all got what you meant.
So we're walking to our first location.
And basically this location is an early scene in the film
where Sean and his band of survivors
meet up with a copycat group.
You know what I mean? Have you seen the film?
You know that bit where they go to the alleyway?
Oh that, this bit?
And they bump into the...
Who are all played by similar actors?
Yeah, like Matt Lucas and Jessica... I can't remember her name now because my brain's gone to fuck.
Hugh?
Well her name was Jessica Stevenson at the time but then she got married.
Oh I see, yeah.
But yeah, so Sean's gang comes across her gang and there across her gang and there's a mirror image of the teams.
It's just one scene though right?
Yeah.
But we thought we'd start there as it is the tippest, topest, most northern location of
the Sean and Ed shoot as far as we know.
So we're going to start there and then we're heading all the way south until eventually
we have to get on a long train journey and go to New Cross Gate for our last location. New Cross Gate. We're heading all the way south until eventually we have to get on a long train journey and
go to New Cross Gate for our last location.
New Cross Gate.
But we're off.
So I'll tell you what, I will tell you this story now since we've got a bit of time before
we get there.
So my partner, I went to the toilet this morning.
Okay, as you do.
Dropped my guts.
As you do.
And it was, you know, a nice soft marshmallow-y feeling solid that came out today.
All good? It was nice? No, it was a good one. It was a really solid that came out today. All good, it was nice.
No, it was a good one, it was a really solid,
great textbook poop.
Not too hard, not too soft.
I didn't have to force it.
It had some integrity in itself, structural integrity.
Yep, I didn't have to force it,
nor did I have to try and catch it from coming out.
You know that one.
I do not know what you mean.
All right, okay, you know when you got the runs? It's coming out mean. You know when you get the runs and you're trying to
clench to not let it all come out at once. Anyway, I do my business, the partner goes
in because she needs to go to the toilet afterwards and I go oh no I'm sorry her. Then she comes
out and she goes oh that smells like the poo of a 20 year old
And I was like what you mean to go so that sounds like the poo of a young man
I was like what how do you know what the poo of a young man would even smell like?
What kind of strange thing to say? Oh?
That's the poo of a young man
What right?
So many questions I have I had many questions, but ultimately I thought I wouldn't scratch out them.
I might reveal too much.
So I just let it go.
Wow.
But I've never...
Both ways, sir.
You let it go and then...
It's strangely flattering though in a weird way.
Oh, you've got the stool of a young man.
Well, it's just so bizarre.
It is. I don't hold any opinions or beliefs about what people at different stages in their lives,
fecal matter smells like.
Yeah.
I don't, I've never entertained that thought.
If I got three tubs and in one tub there was a freshly laid poo of a 20 year old man and
then a midlife, you know, age man
and then an old man, 80s.
I don't believe that you could.
Do you think you could peel the top of the lid off, give it a huff and go,
oh, that's an 80 year old man.
Absolutely not.
You can smell the roughage.
It's totally to do with each person's metabolism and what they ate.
Well that ruins the game we've got planned for the end of this week's fucking episode now
Name that stool
Name that stool. Yeah, I got you
Yeah, no that one's not called Keith that one's called Jeffrey Jeffrey still yeah, what's that one? I
Want to say Peter? Yeah, that's a Peter. Hey a Peter Peter so anyway great game name that
stool you'll all be doing it sorry right let's take a break and then get back
when we get to our first location okay yeah no this is it this is definitely it
we but we unfortunately can't go too far up because that guy or whoever has dumped a load of sand and stones up there.
Yeah. This is okay though.
Yeah, no this will do.
So here we are at our first location.
This is, as we just mentioned, the scene where Shaun meets up with his opposite numbered group
and they have a little conversation about their adventures.
But it's this back alley and weirdly enough this back alley is between what was what did we say it was
between Monks Road Monks Avenue and Longmore Avenue we're in High Barnet and
all that that bit that we couldn't access from when we were we were just in
Monks Avenue yeah we couldn't access so that joins it doesn't it so it goes all
the way up but this is the right one.
This is as far as we can go unfortunately.
And I think, yeah, you look at these garages
and they're the same ones, cupboards, I know, shut up.
But look.
They're all the same ones aren't they?
Yeah, no, we just watched the clip from Shaun the Dead
to make sure this is the right one.
And I recognise there's a corrugated sort of roof there.
Yeah.
Oh look, there's some lovely paint peeling on this.
This is, ooh yeah. Ooh yeah. Hitting my suburban wasteland. sort of roof there yeah oh that's lovely paint peeling on this this is oh
yeah oh yeah hitting my suburban waste warning dogs running free private
property keep out yeah but that's behind the fence right there's no dogs around
here as well we don't know this says running free that could mean fucking
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legs are too short to the ground. I do have short legs. I'm striding. I'm striding with my long real man's legs.
Lung function. So do you. No it's not as bad as yours. No it's just as bad as mine. I don't think you
understand how bad you're...
I see you take your inhaler way more than I do.
Yes, I have asthma.
Yeah, I have asthma too.
Right, anyway, let's...
Look, I've got me fucking inhaler with me, haven't I?
Fucking show you.
I've got a pink one.
Look at that.
I've got a pink one.
Don't waste it.
It's all right, it's brand new.
Anyway, this is not what we came here to just try out-health each other.
We are at the location now of Shaun and the Dead where Shaun meets another group.
I keep forgetting the other character's name because I'm awful and also I didn't do any research.
What are they doing? What are they actually on a mission to do?
Just get out.
And so the other group are in the story are just going the other way.
Yeah.
And it's funny because? Well because Shaun's group is the same as the other way. Yeah. And it's funny because?
Well, because Sean's group is the same as the other group.
They've got the same characters in the group,
but different actors.
Yeah.
Almost to suggest there's another story going on
while Sean's story's being told.
There's another story.
And it does.
A parallel story.
And it does tie up at the end, because she turns up back
at the end, Jessica Stevenson's character, at the pub,
and goes, come with me if you want to live kind of thing.
I see.
So you kind of get the impression that she's had her own losses and adventures but this is the
alleyway where they meet and this is where they're heading from East Finchley to the Winchester pub
but that Winchester pub is not it's south of the river. Paul answer me this I have seen the film
but it was a long time ago. In the film in the fiction of the are they, they are meant to be in North London?
Yes. It's set in North London. Okay.
But for some reason the best pub they could find was the one in New Cross Gate.
Which is where we'll end today's journey. So Paul.
Wouldn't it be funny if we met another two podcasters from a podcast and they were doing it and they look like me and you.
That would be so amazing.
I mean we could have done that as a gag today.
It would freak me out.
It would.
But we'd have to get as a gag today. It would freak me out.
But we'd have to get two other podcasters here. Here's the thing though, we kind of
ruined that gag with the whole thrift pod stuff. We could have done the thrift pod gag.
What was the name you came up with? Doesn't fucking matter. Levi and Saul.
Sounds like biblical scholars. Anyway, when did I meet you? How long ago had this been in your life?
Well, the film was filmed in 2003
and I met you doing standup,
like what, a few years after that, I guess.
2010 it must've been, or 11, I met you.
Yeah, the laughing cavaliers.
So yeah, this is all pre-Ely, pre-ly.
And you just- pre-ly adventure.
Just to be clear Paul, you were not here. This is the first time you've been here.
It's quite a lovely spot isn't it? Look at that oak, that's a lovely massive oak up there
and there's cows parsley filling the alley. I'm going to take a photo.
Do take a photograph because we are going to need to take photographs
and we're also doing a little video diary as well with this so you can watch along with us as well. Do you have any questions? No?
It's the first this is an alleyway. Yes the first location. Are we going?
Through the film sequentially know this because this happens right near the end doesn't know this has about 40 minutes in this is before
They get to the pub. So no, we're not going in terms of time in the film.
We're going in terms of geography.
The most northern shooting location I could find.
To the most southern.
To the most southern.
And this is where they filmed in the most north.
So here we are.
So let's crack on to our next location,
which is in North Finchley.
And it's a place you might recognize
if you've seen the film.
Which I guess you have.
I still don't understand what you meant by a 20 year old poo.
I don't, I can't comprehend what that means.
Anyway, doesn't matter.
What have you been eating?
Yesterday I had a chicken curry pasty and half a bag of extra flaming hot Doritos.
Yeah, maybe that's it.
Perhaps you used to...
It's an alchemy of some sort that I managed to weave.
If I ate flaming hot Doritos and a curry chicken pasty, that gives you the poo of a 20 year
old.
Every night do it.
Yeah.
And then judge up your sex life, Paul.
She could go,
Ah!
Oh, invigorating.
Excuse me darling, before we get intimate,
can I sniff a turd?
That's like that story.
What story?
The story that was made up,
that the guy sent us about a guy wanked when he smelled turds.
Oh yeah.
Yeah, I didn't believe that for a second.
But I did come,
I did come reading that story back to myself. I didn't do that. Anyway, listen but I did come, I did come, reading that story
back to myself.
I didn't do that.
Anyway, listen, we're going to crack on.
No, you're going the wrong way.
Well, because I want to film a little bit before we leave here, don't I?
So I'm going to do that.
So we'll see you in a little while.
See you everyone, see you in a bit.
Where will we be next?
You'll find out.
In East Finchley, you've already said.
No, North Finchley, I said.
So, get told.
Right, here we go.
Right, we're on the 263. We're just getting off now in North Finchley for our next location.
Oh, Bims.
Well, not Bims sells.
Burgers, fries and shakes, Bims.
I told you.
They're the one that had the tagline, get your mouth ready.
That's them, Bims.
The Bims.
They had a real moment of being very popular with Asian people.
Oh, here we are, getting off the bus. Ding ding.
Then we'll get back on the bus at this stop as well. Let's go further down.
But the location's on the other side of the road.
Yeah. Right, so this location we're at now is, well, we're heading to is in the film called
Fourie Electrics. It's where Sean works in a kind of you know, Currie's Comet
kind of shop, right? Yes. Where's the nearest crossing? Let's do that.
Oh there's one up that way which is close to where we need to go anyway. So
we're going to where Sean works in the film, in the electric shops.
What's his character's attitude to his job? He doesn't like it?
No, he's a slacker. The whole point of the film is that he won't grow up.
And this film forces him to take responsibility.
Oh, yeah.
And kill his mum. Spoilers alert.
Yeah, and his dad. I think he basically kills everyone he loves in that film, right?
So what kind of message is that for everyone?
If you want to get on in life and move on, kill everyone you love.
I think it's... I mean, I did it.
Yes.
You know?
So, Forie Electrics... Do you know why it's called Forie Electrics?
No.
Because there's an actor in Shaun of the Dead with the surname Forie.
F-O-R-E-E.
And why would you...?
Because he was in Shaun of the Dead, so they've named the shop after an actor
in Dawn of the Dead.
In Dawn of the Dead?
Yes.
You said Shaun of the Dead.
I know, I know.
So just when you listen back to the podcast,
just replace that line in your head with Dawn of the Dead.
But yeah.
You see my confusion?
There it is, in fact.
All right, let me start again.
My confusion was because you said,
it would be strange if you named a location
or a fictional shop in your film after an actor who was in the film.
Yes, and I realised the mistake I've made.
That's what I thought you maybe fucking said.
Do you want to punch in the fucking mouth?
No, why are you getting so angry?
Because I'm trying to correct myself and make the record straight
and all you're doing is picking at the seams of the logic of my mistake
which I'd like to correct.
Christ. So, in the at the seams of the logic of my mistake which I'd like to correct. Christ. So in the film Dawn of the Dead there is an actor with
the surname Fory. Which one? F-O-R-E-E. He's one of the survivors who ends up in the
mall. He's the black guy basically. Ken Fory? Ken? Yeah. So they've named the
electronic shop after the actor's name from Dawn of the Dead.
Dawn of the Dead, what a classic. Yeah, can't go wrong with Dawn of the Dead and here we are,
the Garland Electronics. Wow. It is an electronics store. Yes. It's a similar thing, it looks like
it's in Trubb Trubb. It looks like it's closed. Look, it's padlocked there. Treble padlocked. It
is in Trubb Trubb. I'm gonna have a little look through the holes, see what I can see.
If anything.
Oh, it's definitely empty.
No, it isn't.
No, it's got goods in there.
Oh, maybe it's still operating.
That's just used as a store room now, because it doesn't look very old.
Or maybe everything's online and they just use it as a front.
What day is it? I mean, it could be shut on a Saturday, couldn't it?
It could be shut on a Saturday.
Let me take some photos.
You take a photograph of me outside, 4E Electrics. So this is the next location on a Saturday. Let me take some photos. You take a photograph of me outside 4E Electrics.
So this is the next location on our shoot.
Not our shoot.
See I've got your disease now.
You were getting actors' names wrong by calling Cameron Mitchell Cameron Mackintosh.
And then what was the other one? Edgar Winters instead of Edgar Wright.
You confused a director with a prog rock musician, Wunderkind.
He wasn't a prog rocker apart from that one album.
He did a little bit of prog, he did a bit of everything.
It was more like hard rock, blues rock.
But he did a bit of everything.
Take a picture of me in front of it.
And I'm on reporting duty.
So not much to say, if you've seen the film, Sean from Sean the Dead works here.
Brief scene.
And again, a North London London location so a wonderful place. Now while we're here do you want to go the toilet
because I know you were saying you were pinching... what? Where? I don't know there's
like a pub, there's a McDonald's, there's a Wenzel's, I know you can take a shit at
Wenzel's, there's a pub just there on the corner. I'm okay. You sure? Where are we going now?
Well now we're heading on the 263 again and we're going to go south a few more stops until we get to East Finchley where our next location
is. You know what fascinates me about these places where they have shutters? You have
this rash of signs advertising people who make shutters. Oh yeah. Look, it's everywhere.
And it makes me think how many small businesses are there that make shutters?
Apparently enough.
There's at least 20 separate stickers on this place alone.
Well, let's have a little look.
There's one here that says emergency shutter repair glass glazing.
Quick way shutter.
J Shutters and Glass.
JASTA Shutters and Shutters.
Bright Shut, Shutfronts.
Signs. Actually, that's for signs.
Lucky Shutfront Shutter. Oh, Signs, actually that's for signs. Lucky shopfront shutter.
Or lucky.
Quick fit shutters repair.
JD shopfront and shuttfutter.
Skyline shutter repair.
Fastline shuttfutter fair.
AD.
There's literally, we haven't gone into copies yet.
Rabbit shutter services.
Do you think someone just goes round with a roll of stickers and goes,
that shop looks closed?
It's so weird isn't it?
Save time shopfront.
And you also see them wherever there's been a broken.
Yeah.
I guess it's big business.
Oh no, these are a few copies.
Superfast, that's a new one isn't it?
No no no, we have the superfast over there.
That's 24-7 repair.
Oh no, that's 24-7 repair.
Oh that one is.
So they all do the same thing.
How do they compete? At the end of the day you go, I like that sticker best, I'm going to one is. So they all do the same thing, how do they compete?
At the end of the day you go, I like that sticker best, I'm going to call them.
It's so strange isn't it? It's a culture of stickering.
It's a bit like when a few years ago you used to have phone boxes filled with prostitutes.
Sexy cards, yeah.
Did you ever call one?
I never did, Paul.
I was curious about calling one once, years ago in darker days and these days I just knock
one out online don't I?
It saves a lot of time.
So did you take a picture then did you?
Yeah.
Alright cool.
So we're going to get back on the bus then.
Can I just make it, I think this is a moment to make an observation Paul.
Yeah.
You, it's been this story that you love to tell about how you were in Shaun of the Dead
since I first met you.
Right.
I'm not having a go.
It's one of the few interesting things that's happened to me in my life.
But I think it's more than that.
I think it's for you come to symbolise a happy moment, a moment where there was possibility,
a moment where there was something exciting in the future.
Yes, because I was 20 years younger.
Do you agree?
Yeah.
So what, now you're saying at the other end of that,
and now I saw a bitter old twat
going over the fucking remains of his youth.
Like a zombie film, shuffling through a past existence and wondering what could have been.
I'm just saying there's a definite nostalgia.
Are you trying to turn this walk into a mental breakdown for Paul?
No.
Like an existential crisis for me.
I'm just asking you Paul.
Because I'm having one.
I know.
I'm having one.
Paul.
Because you've been 20 years mate and I've achieved almost nothing.
Would you say there's a sort of special nostalgia that you associate with that time, that moment?
Because it would have been... how many months were you on the shoot?
Well it's complicated. It was spread over about six, seven months across 2003 and most
of it was at Ealing. So I spent most of the time on Ealing film studios for the inside
of the pub, the Winchester and stuff.
And you got fared and stuff there? Yeah, yeah, yeah. And Shaun's flat was built on set in Ealing film studios for the inside of the pub, the Winchester and stuff. And you got Ferdinand stuff there?
Yeah, yeah, yeah. And Shaun's flat was built on set in Ealing and little locations like
that, right? Whereas some of the outside locations, like the Winchester pub which we'll get to
eventually, were South London. So all the North London stuff were the location shots
for the crew in the main cat, there weren't necessarily a lot of need for the other actors,
or extras rather.
But you did come up here where we are now.
Well this used to be my stomping ground.
East Finchley was my stomping ground for the longest time.
So these locations that when I was filming Shawndeaded I was living in Shepherd's Bush.
So this wasn't local but when I moved up here it was like oh shit most of this film was
shot up this end.
And also Simon Pegg, Nick Frost, they were North London people.
Famously the Boogaloo pub in Highgate. Is that another location? No but that's
the inspiration for the Winchester. That's where Simon Pegg and Nick Frost
would always hang out at the end of the day and just drink. The Boogaloo was
started by the Pogues I believe. I think two of the Pogues were behind it.
I know Chris Martin fucking pops in there from Time Slams to I think two of the Pogues were behind it and they've got their own radio station.
I know Chris Martin fucking pops in there from time to time to play his guitar for
all the lucky patrons who happen to be there.
Can you imagine being there having a drink in the Boogaloo and fucking Chris Martin walks
in and starts going, na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na
na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na
na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na
na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na
na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na
na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na
na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na That's the best one isn't it? And he doesn't even bring a band in. He just literally stands in the corner and goes... He's married to Gwyneth Calford.
He stamps all the time and sings yellow to himself.
Erm...
Oh go on, I thought you had a thought.
No.
I didn't.
In that case what I'm going to do is I'm going to get a coffee and then we're going to get
a bus and then we're going to head to our next location.
Can I have a coffee please?
Yes, Daddy Gannon will get you coffee for kiss kiss.
No kiss kiss.
Give a kiss kiss on me cheek and I'll give you a coffee.
Would you agree that it has a sort of totemic nostalgia for you?
That's what I'm saying.
It really is.
Well look, I was in my early 20s, I was married at the time, I was flying back and forth to
LA living this weird life where I was rich in America but poor in London and bouncing back and forth to LA living this weird life where I was like rich in America
But poor in London and bouncing back and forth. I'm doing temp jobs, but because I was almost doing nothing
I had lots and lots of time to be on set for sure on the dead
So even though I wasn't a featured extra I was on set for an aggressively long amount of time
So I was always free but always happily go to Ealing Broadway go to Ealing Studios
Hang out all day on there,
be a zombie, play Game Boy with, like Edgar Wright's brother.
Is it Oscar?
Was a big Game Boy fan.
So we'd all, me, him, Peter Serafanovich one day
was sitting in Sean's living room
playing Mario Kart on the Geek GBA Link-Up.
Yeah, I saw Serafanovich in that, the Gentleman series.
Trying his best, but whoa.
It's funny, why can't Guy Ritchie fucking tell when someone's an actor?
What I want to know is Peter Serafanovich is a Scouse man.
And why is it when I see him play as Scouses, he's like the worst Scouse accented man I've ever heard.
I was wondering about that. So he is from that part of the world.
But he's celebrated for his voice, his act, his mimicry. He's just his worst one is for some reason for his voice. His actor is mimicry.
His worst one is for some reason, Scouse.
So who knows why that is.
I remembered what I was going to say before, by the way, Paul.
Oh, God.
I will never...
I don't like Coldplay.
I don't like their music.
But I will never forgive them.
You know, they invited James Corden onto stage to sing.
Yeah.
Nothing compares to you.
They invited James Corden when when they were doing it.
I would have got the whole crowd of 10,000 people to shout we want our money back, we want our money
back. It's footage of it, it really is the most toe-curlingly, cringy performance. He's really
going for it, you know. James Corden singing nothing compares lesbian. James Corden is an arse-boil on the face of pop culture.
We're doing another Gavin and Stacey, aren't we?
Yeah, can we end this segment? I don't want to talk about James Corden on this fucking
podcast.
Coffee?
Off the location number three, after a coffee, coffee and a quick bus stop.
Again, what's it called?
Four Rays Electricians?
In the film, yeah, but it's Garland Electronics in real life. You can go to garlandelectronics.com if you want to see if they're open or exist.
All the brands there, Balmatic, Silence, Spurff, Knopf, Boosh, Electrolux,
Jabomnix, Pinna Sanic, Jabiks. Yeah they make coffee machines and grinders.
They're a Dutch company. Did you hear the techno version, the two Dutch DJs?
Yes. There's a chap on Instagram called Beanie and he's done a happy
hardcore Dutch DJ thing. It's not happy hardcore, sorry. No, he's done a mix of it. He has done. He's done a few and one of them's happy hardcore.
He sent me a link to me, because I get told stuff.
Well, you're not going, I'm not going to tell you.
Why?
Because I don't like you very much.
Right, let's crack on to our next location.
Right then, so here we are in one of the nooks and crannies of old East Finchley. It is reasonably posh around here, isn't it?
Lot of mock Tudor, pseudo Tud.
Pseudo Tudor dee do.
It's verging on gimmicky.
You're talking about Edgar Wright's direction.
You could argue it's flashy,
but I wouldn't say it's gimmicky.
Fair enough, we've reached a good compromise there.
Thank you.
It's flashy.
But as I say-
And verging on self-congratulatory.
Yeah, but again, I would argue a lot of his flashiness
doesn't get in the way of the narrative,
and if anything, it speeds up some loose narrative beats or-
Yes. You know what I mean? He's definitely a talented and highly skilled filmmaker. I just don't care for it.
Fine.
Any of it.
Fine. I'm not asking you to care for it. What I'm asking you to do. Don't touch me.
Oh my god, you're such a pervert.
I like Paul.
You're such a Ganon perv. You're obsessed with Ganon. And he's shit as well. Why do you even like him? He's a knob.
Anyway, so we are in East Finchley. Which location are we heading to now?
We are heading to a location in the film where
Sean goes to pick up his mum and stepdad
in their great plan to save everyone they care for
and go to the Winchester pub. So they drive to
I think it's called Abbott Road. Is it the step dad?
Yeah, Bill Nye is the step dad.
What happens to his real dad? God I don't know. He's not in the film?
No, not at all. It's just erm... But why? That's a strange
what? Plot beat? Detail.
I mean, there's this whole thing about you're not my real dad and blah blah blah.
Oh, Abbott Gardens, we're right here.
So Abbott Gardens is where
Shaun's mum lives and they
drive off in their
rolls or whatever it is, jag, whatever the car is.
She drives off with Bill Nighy?
Well no, they... He goes to pick them both up and he's already been bitten by that point.
Nighy's been bitten.
And slowly turning.
He gives a good zombie turn doesn't he?
This is the thing about that film, I know it's like littered with the best of British comedy at the turn of the 2000s right?
But also just a weirdly well stacked cast full stop.
Penelope Winton, you know, Bill Nighy
That's what I mean about the whole project seems to have a lot of good feeling
You know people wanted to be involved with it and stuff
A lot of people were excited to be a part of it because I think well, it's think about it
Like space was a big hit. Yeah, very popular show put everyone on the map to some extent
Because I'm in pegabins slumming it in all kinds of fucking weird sketch shows and sitcoms.
Yeah, do you remember who's in the bottom movie?
I haven't seen the bottom movie.
He's in that, he plays like a dad.
Is this Cinema Paradiso?
He's in that, I think that was before.
He plays a dad in The Boys as well.
He plays the main character's dad.
So here we are, Abbott Gardens.
Now I'm not quite sure.
I think it's down this end actually
With this kind of cul-de-sac area. This is the land of the Mokshuda. Yeah
But this is Mokshuda. We are now heading towards Sean's mum's house
So I think it's at the bottom of this kind of roundabout cul-de-sac thing here Sean's mum's house
Yeah, by Penelope Winton, Wilton, Wilton, Winton, Wilton. What was the blue plaque on that house? Do you reckon it says Sean the Dead was filmed here or is it just something else?
David Hatch?
Did I say David Hatch? No, David Smith.
I don't know, I don't want to get my camera because now I feel weird.
But anyway, here we are.
At Abbott Gardens, East Finchley.
Another one of the locations for Shaun of the Dead.
And it's a cool disac house.
I'll tell you what I'm going to do, I'm going to take a pause and see if I can find a picture of it.
Bear with me.
Right, it's 37 Abbott Gardens apparently.
Oh, is that a little alleyway?
We go back that way then?
Yeah, can we?
Yeah, can we?
Yeah, of course we can.
So 37, 29, just walking round now.
I'm just going to walk, it's this way.
See, this is the thing about you.
We're here to look at locations from a much loved British movie and you're like, oh look
at that, look at the fucking girth on that alleyway.
Oh.
I'm into.
Look at the length of it.
I like alleys. Alley alleys. Why is it important?
What influenced you? Discuss the influence of the film please. Okay so
you know how British cinema was mostly defined in the 70s by sex comedies and
sitcoms and things like that and even in the 80s they struggled with the odd hit
like Chariots of Fire you know breaking through. By and large the British
industry, film industry, was dead
and whatever films came out were usually piss poor and cheap. In the 90s you had like four
weddings and you had, you know, the whole Richard Curtis thing, right? And it gets to
a point where it's like British film is defined by American money funding upper middle class
perspectives of Britain, right? So you look at... Richard Ivory.
Yes, okay, but that isn't really...
Richard Curtis.
Yeah, but outside of the prestige, they're not really mainstream hits.
They don't really break into pop culture elsewhere around the world outside of Oscar
talk, right?
Yeah.
So Shaun the Dead comes along and forgetting about space and stuff like that, it was a
comedy horror British film that managed to be well received, respected, looked like a film and not like a TV show on the
big screen and was won over by George Romero, Tarantino, Rodriguez, all those
big Hollywood directors saying let's bring this over to America and big it up
as much as possible and so as a result it kind of made people go oh yeah
British films don't have to look like shit or look like Merchant Ivory movies
They can be pop culture. They can be modern. They can compete with Hollywood
Visually, grammatically with the Hollywood language and that's what he did
He basically took Hollywood grammar and apply it to British sitcom sensibilities or British character
That's very much what he did with the second of the trilogy
Hot Fuzz is literally there
Which is like an American cop
It's the incongruity of
American cop tropes action tropes that's right yeah so I'm not gonna do the same
thing and then he tries to do it with the third film with sci-fi right with
apocalyptic sci-fi doesn't work so well because the whole point of that film
really is to be about mental health and struggles with addiction that's the
overall theme of that what he wants a pint or something? Because he's a damaged human
individual who is dependent on booze and his glory days in his youth and
it's about how he's got arrested developments. It's almost like... It's the same thing as the
first film? Kind of. But like it's much darker World's End. Whereas like
Shaun there's about letting go of like being a teenager and being early 20s and
getting to be an adult. This one's early 20s and getting to be an adult
This one's about when you've got to be an adult and you haven't left go those things and you're still out on like a prick Who shouldn't be acting like that and the damage it costs to your friends
You want to move on there is lots going on in that trilogy of films
But why I think Shaun the Dead is important
It's just that it was it was kind of the first British film in a while to not
Feel like it was just made for a British sitcom TV watching audience You You know it wasn't like yeah Porridge the movie or whatever.
Okay good good argument. Let's think about what British films were out there at the time.
Like staggered Martin Clune's rogue movie where he's a best man or a groove who
gets stranded in Scotland and has to get down in time for the wedding.
Clockwise these really kind of parochial British small, cosy movies that could easily be...
Clockwise was 20 years before.
It was 80s clockwise. But the point still is, is that British film had that look to it.
Yes, I know what you mean.
Not necessarily a negative thing, but like, you put that...
Like for instance, you know, you look at like the 70s British movie output,
Confessions of a Taxi Driver or Window Cleaner or No Sex We're British and all these things. Meanwhile you go, what's America making at the exact same time? Oh,
a taxi driver, you know, Badlands, whatever, whatever. And it's embarrassing.
It's embarrassing, but that is, you know, widely considered the best Hollywood has ever been
that period. True, but then because Britain had been like gutted in terms of finances and all those kind of things, you know.
The only thing propping up the British film industry was American money,
because Star Wars and Indiana Jones and all those kind of films came over here to film.
Was Alien filmed in the UK?
I believe Elstree as well, yeah.
So you know what I'm saying?
Where is the British film industry at now?
It's probably better than it was, but like...
I'm trying to think of a big Britcom
I can't think
that has come out recently
I don't know
Maybe we should make one. Oh I know, Ashen's and the
Polybius heist? Yeah
I heard there's some really amazing actors in that
Yeah. I heard quite
differently. Anyway, so we're going to head back now
because I can confirm that we're
going to be speaking to someone who was involved in the film.
Paul Putner will be joining us when we get to Archway on this talk.
He is fast becoming our go-to surprise guest.
I know, I feel sorry for him.
It's like you should get him a jacket.
Like, you know if you're on Saturday Night Live five times you get a jacket.
I feel like we should get him a jacket to say you're a five time cheat.
You know what I mean?
Yeah.
But anyway, we're going to go and meet him in a minute after a few more locations.
So let's say, let's wrap up and crack on.
We're not at this, look we haven't seen this one.
It's right there, number 37.
I'm going to take a, I kind of feel weird because it's someone's house.
You don't want to like take a picture of someone else.
You know what I mean?
It's weird.
You are allowed.
Maybe.
But yeah, but anyway, so here's where we are and we're going to move on to East Finchley
now.
Another one we can tick off the list. Here we go.
Shaun's mum's house. Not much more to say really after that.
There we go. Nice picture. Right, see you in a bit.
Right, we've just gotten off the 143 bus from East Finchley to Highgate.
And now we're heading, because
there's Highgate Village up there where we ended our Christmas walkabout last
year, you know, with the thing. Yes. And now we're heading to, let me get my phone
out and regard the details. We're walking past High Point, Brutalism Lovers. Oh Oh what that building is? Very very important modernist building. Why?
Just it was celebrated at the time and was unusual at the time. It's a lot earlier than
you think and it's because it looks like so much stuff. It depends, I'm thinking 1930s.
Let's see. Oh Dickens, Charles Dickens, 1812 to 1870 author, stayed here in 1832.
What was he doing? Does it mean he just slept on the couch at night? So I went blue plaque please.
So High Point, when was it built? I always find when they say he was here, you know,
often it's like they were just, yeah, because further down the road I think is where Peter
Sellers lived, wasn't it? No, that's up towards Highgate station.
Yeah, that's that way.
Yeah.
It's not that way.
It is.
No, no, no.
If we walked up that way and round, it'd be that way,
but it'd obviously be just as quick to go that way,
because you come out right by the corner of Highgate.
Mate, this is my stomping ground.
It's my neck of the woods.
It's my neck, it's my little corner of the world, mate.
It's my stomping ground as well.
Yeah, well I know it better than you.
So. Yeah, absolutely do not it better than you. So.
You absolutely do not.
We are going to Cunningham House, Hillgate in Highgate, Liz's flat.
So this is where Liz and Dylan Moran's character live before Sean...
What?
The building was built in 1933 to 1936.
Well that's right, that was a good guess.
See but that doesn't look... That would be very unusual then. The first one was built in 1933 to 1930. So I was right, that was a good guess. Yeah.
See, but that doesn't look fair.
That would be very unusual then.
It actually looks pretty modern in terms like the brickwork.
It still does, doesn't it?
It still does, yeah.
Not very brutalist-y though, to be fair either.
It's very much more modernist really.
Do you want to take a picture of High Point then now you've brought it up?
Because you can't not bring it up and then not put a picture in for context.
Meanwhile, I'm going to give context to the actual things
we're talking about on this fucking podcast this week.
So this is Liz's flat where Sean's girlfriend, Liz, lives
before she is whisked away by Sean and his merry band
of friends for a zombie adventure.
So we're just gonna have a quick walk now to this location.
Now this is one of the ones I was going to be at but
then I was ill on the day but they needed a few zombies to stand around so
they could be hit with a...
Well, you're a zombie if you're ill, can't you?
Yes but also if you're shitting through the Ivan Eidle mate maybe you don't want to leave the house.
I'm just gonna put that out there.
What does shitting through the Ivan Eidle mean?
It just means to have runny squits.
Runny squits which means the liquid would pour through. As if it was like when you put your thumb over the end of a hose.
Yeah, I guess.
So yeah, there's a whole scene isn't there where Sean runs out with Liz and they beat
a few people with cricket bats.
This is here, this is Hillcrest. I
was going to be one of those zombies that day, I was ill, but a few of my friends who
lived in East Vinchley at the time came down and did it. Like Gale and Richard. But at
the time you didn't live? No I didn't. Was it through that that you found the house where
you lived in East Vinchley? Yeah, because I got to know. It's weird, my circle of friends at that time was weirdly kind of...
I want to wear them, look at that, they all gravitated like random friends I had
from different parts of my life, all seem to gravitate to East Finchley in the early 2000s
because my university friends met up with people who were on the set of Shaun the Dead,
who met friends on Shaun the Dead who ended up living in East Finchley.
I ended up living in East Finchley because I met those people. you know what I mean, I met those people on the set and then
they when I got to become friends with them we ended up moving up here. So here's where we are.
This is a lovely modernist estate hillcrest isn't it? I don't know too much about what this kind of
building design is. This is sort of art deco isn't it? Almost. They're almost like tenement housing aren't they? Yes but it's very much early 20th century. Yeah. Probably built before High
Point I would have thought but. I think it's these flats here this one at the
end with Liz's flat. Now correct me if I'm wrong but Peter Sellers house is
that way now looking this because that's the Highgate station is there. Yeah, yeah that way ish
My 11 o'clock as I'm from where I'm standing
Now I'm looking it up now because this hang on Sean
Yeah, there's a little website I went to called almost ginger a blogger who did a bunch of pictures and location sites.
So thank you to AlmostGinger.com for some of the information that we received today.
So where was she on the dead film? Yeah here we go. There's some pictures.
Cold drops you are. These are some of the ones that are too far out and off our route.
Well that's in King's Cross, that's not far out at all.
Yeah but these were taken like very like pickups of people just wandering around.
There's no plot actually in those scenes.
It's just locations where they did like people coming home drunk at the end of the night.
Establishing shots sort of things.
Yeah so, that's where we're going to later.
So Garland the electronics, that's that place.
We've been there.
Broadway's Crouch End.
Cunningham House Hillcrest.
That's not here at all.
I think that's the wrong pictures, that's the wrong picture. But Cunningham House
and look, I look for Cunningham. I saw it. Where? Is it behind us?
Oh it looks really overgrown considering. Hang on, you take a picture of me because
I'm never in any of the pictures of our walk about to the Moulding, always holding
stuff. Right so Cunningham House is where Liz lived
right behind us there. Pictures on our website thecheapshow.co.uk and on our
Instagram account CheapShowPod but yeah Eli take a picture of me here I'm
posing. Is this a sexy pose? Well yeah you know what you're doing is this a good
location? I'm just taking a
picture everyone. There we go so there's our next location he ran out with a
cricket bat there were zombies there the car was waiting there yeah and he's
literally running past him whack bosh whack bosh whack bosh whack. That's
another clever quote on American Horror because in American Horror it's always the baseball bat.
It's cricket.
And cricket. What would be more British than cricket?
Football, kick, but then how would you use a football in zombie apocalypse combat?
I think they'd cause similar injuries.
There was a friend of mine, there was an actor I used to work with who was always in the sitcom trials,
do you remember the sitcom trials?
Yes.
A live comedy night where people could test their sitcoms out.
I do, I never went to the sitcoms.
I think the guy was called Nick, he was a tall guy.
That's where, um...
He's the zombie who bites Penelope Wynton because she goes,
oh I just had a little scratch or whatever.
I think they should have...
And it turns out she got bit by him.
Like for instance, I was meant to have a scene, a death scene in Shaun the Dead,
because they wanted me to be the Peter Delivery zombie for a bit,
when the other guy just didn't turn up to the
shooting days and he said you're about the same size put this helmet on yeah so
it's like you're about the same size can you be the Peter Delivery Zombie I was
like yeah and there's a scene where they get the Winchester rifle off the bar
shove it in the visor and pull the trigger and the whole head explodes under
the bike helmet right and I was meant to go in for a casting for my head for them to do the whole thing and then blow my head off
and I was so excited but they basically said he ran out of time and money and
rather than do it shit just cut it so they did so that's casting for your head
not like they were gonna cast your head in the film yeah like they were
actually making a mold I want to play the role of Paul's head in this film yeah
what's your name Paul Gannon you'll be good you know you're not I don't think you're quite right for the role it's like what Ernie
Hudson was told he wasn't quite right for the role of Winston in the real
Ghostbusters cartoon. The most famous story about that is the Charlie Chaplin
lookalike competition. Oh yeah. He entered and came 20th. What a great thing so okay so we're
gonna head off to our next location which is the Boogaloo pub where hopefully
we're gonna meet our good friend Mr. Paul Putner for some
behind-the-scenes stories. I might have to pour a little bit of Guinness onto
this hangover just to soothe it. Just to put out the burning embers of last night's hangover.
Oh wow. Alright, well let's do that then. Alright, see you in a bit.
I don't know what the laughing was for, we were just doing walking away sounds. Here we
go.
Come back!
We started by members of the Pogues wasn't it, this pub?
Is it?
Yeah.
It was called the Shepherds originally.
Shepherds Inn wasn't it?
Yeah.
Presumably that's because Shepherds would kind of bring their sheep down.
All fields round here.
Get a pint for your sheep.
Anyway hello everyone, we're back and we're at the Boogaloo Bar in Highgate and we've
been joined by the beautiful human being that is Mr Paul Putner.
Hello there.
Hello there.
Hello there.
I'm alright.
Thank you for joining us today on this wonderful walk celebrating 20 years of Shawna the Dead.
Twenty years.
Twenty years.
Twenty bloody years.
So we thought we'd meet up because you have a few anecdotes and stories yourself, do you
not?
Well, yeah, I mean I've lived in this area for many years.
We're going to walk and talk and we're going to head down towards Artwight.
It's a horrible road to cross, be careful, I nearly got knocked down on the way here.
Yeah you did look a bit flustered, befuddled somewhat.
That would have been a bit of a downer for the podcast.
We've asked Paul Porter to join us and killed him in the process.
It's Shaun of the Dead, so there you go. Yeah, true. Now you see, I know this whole road
means a lot to me. You've got up the top there, Jackson's Lane, which is the theatre there.
And I remember about 1990, 89, applying for a comedy course, and then coming on the day and they said,
oh you've got to have an act, do your act.
And I thought, well I don't have an act yet, so I decided not to do it.
And do you know who was taking the course?
Go on.
Eddie Izzard or Suzy Izzard.
Oh, of course, yeah.
So I was pretty pissed off in hindsight that I didn't have to just go in and busk it.
So how did that work out for you anyway professionally?
What, stand up?
Yeah, you did alright.
Yeah, he was okay.
Yeah, he did alright out of it.
So we started at the Boogaloo pub because Boogaloo was the pub that Simon Peggan co. used to frequent quite a lot, right, when they live around here?
That's right, with Nick Frost and Michael Smiley.iley and I mean I think they used to come up with
ideas for space in there. I was gonna say because space would have been around
that time right in the 90s? Yeah very much so yeah. Was it called the Shepherds still then?
Yes it was the Shepherds. The Boogaloo, it was called the Boogaloo came along oh I don't know
about 10-15 years ago they changed the name of it
and it's sort of like to play on this sort of music vibe you just heard the
horn section then. It does seem like it's it's sorry I just twigged there what
you're getting at. It does seem like it was a kind of creative safe space for people to
go and work out their comedy or music careers in that venue?
Well I think a lot of those characters they all used to live around here.
Yeah they did. Did Edgar Wright live around here at the time? Because you know he was...
I don't know where Edgar lived. I think possibly. I thought he lived in Bellsides Park.
Oh, actually that might ring a bell.
But yeah they were all kind of around this manor. And, but you see, the thing is,
when they were conceiving the idea for Shaun of the Dead,
they often imagined that the first thing they would do,
as they do in the movie, is would take refuge
in the local pub to see where they go from there.
And the shepherds, you know, they think,
well, we wouldn't use this pub, we'd
have to use the Winchester, which is down the road.
Which we're heading towards now.
Yeah, we're on Archway Road now, so we're heading towards the Winchester. And if you
actually look inside, it's much more like the pub in the film.
It is.
And I think they played on that. The Winchester was shut for a long time but it's
been reopened in the last couple of years. Is it still called the Winchester? I mean
we'll get to find out. It's still called the Winchester. And one of the reasons why they
thought they put the setting in the Winchester pub is because there's a long parade of shops on the Archway Road and you can kind of traverse over the
roofs to get to each one and they said there was a gun shop.
Yes, the Pax Guns.
Pax Guns.
Yeah, they had this right there.
Which is quite near the Winchester.
So they'd be able to get all their ammunition.
And Winchester was the rifle.
And the Winchester, yeah, the Winchester had a rifle and the Winchester yeah Winchester had a rifle Winchester rifle above the bar which of course it does
have in the film. I mean in real life did the bar have a gun that worked as well I
guess? I don't know I never used to drink in there myself I used to drink in the
Archway Tavern which is further down the road Archway Tavern, which is further down the road. Archway Tavern is probably known, if you're a Kinks fan, it's the cover of the Muswell Hillbillies.
And for years wasn't it an intrepid fox or something? It had a different name, the Archway Tavern.
For a while it was called From Dusk Till Dawn.
That's right, yeah. It was a metal theme.
Yeah, like a goth, death metal, doom merchant place. What's that pub up by Muzzle Hill that the Kings allegedly own or one of the Ray Davis
owns?
The Gate House.
Yeah, the Gate House, that's it.
I still see Ray Davis wandering around.
What a genius.
He once came to a Laughing Cavaliers gig and played my ukulele and played Waterloo Sunset
on it, which is nice.
Oh, wow.
And I see, who else do I see around here?
Steve Diggle from Buzzcocks.
Okay.
Who was like, you know, a Ray Davis of his generation.
Did he write songs for the Buzzcocks?
Yeah, oh yes, absolutely.
He was brilliant.
So here we are, we're coming up to the actual Winchester.
The actual Winchester.
Which was a hotel in the old days. It's up to the actual actual Winchester, which was a hotel
In the old days, it's similar to the pub on your corner the street said hands. What's the name of that book?
Salisbury it's similar to the Salisbury in style and
Pulled been it's like we've got that gold gran pulled field
Right this whole row was built as
They've got that sort of feature. Those arches, yeah. Yeah, these are quite unusual.
So this is the pub that, I mean, was there a reason why they couldn't film here?
I guess it was because it's on the main road and they couldn't do the zombie stuff here.
Well, exactly.
Yeah.
And I think the thing is, oh, people are looking at us thinking we're weird.
No, they didn't.
They couldn't use this really because, as you you say it would have been a logistical nightmare for the technical side, the crew and you know.
Yeah, because I remember the logistics of when we were at the pub where we were.
Alright, thank you sir, that would be lovely.
Because obviously they had to close the whole street off for the zombies and the armies to turn up and I don't think you could do that on the high road here. There's all kinds of reasons why you can't use the actual locale for these things.
They might have asked for too much money.
Yeah and it would have just been difficult to film.
It's not a space you can secure and keep people away from, you've got traffic and everything.
Well I kind of feel sorry for Archway Road anyway because they all these shops are being
kind of screwed since they did all the parking, double red lines and all of that caper.
Yeah you can't do anything around here now with that all.
No well it just closed so many businesses.
So how did you get involved in the film then? I mean I know obviously a long storied career
in comedy but how did you end up falling into it? Well, because I was working with Edgar Wright
on a Paramount show with Matt Lucas and David Walliams
called Spoofo Vision.
Oh, God.
Mash and Peas.
Yeah, Mash and Peas, yeah.
Yeah, and so that was in the mid-90s,
and Edgar directed all of them.
And so we became like quite chummy,
and then I did an episode of Spaced. Yeah. So I got to know, I mean I used to see Simon about
and Jessica parties and stuff and yeah they put me in Spaced and then we
said did I want to play this cab driver in in in Shaun of the Dead but unfortunately
well we discussed this before another one of my I ended up on the cutting
room floor but I remember Edgar calling me saying well you know you're in good
company we've just cut Peter Boehnern's role so he said you're alright but I'm still in it I still play a
zombie I still get to kind of tear off Dylan Moran's head.
Yeah.
They cut a lot of stuff just in...
Well, because time and money, as I say, I was almost going to have my head blown up in the film,
but they couldn't get the chance to cast my head and they cut the scene altogether.
Well, Edgar, he had to make it a lean film for the structure.
Yeah.
It's a good thing really.
It's tight as a drum that film.
It really is.
Well, this is it.
It'd be half an hour longer if they made it today.
Well, you have to kill your babies, as they say.
You have to...
Slash and burn.
Yeah.
But it's annoying.
It's bloody typical.
That didn't even end up in the extra deleted scenes.
No, I think it is an extra.
Okay.
So, yeah, I am somehow in there.
I did play a zombie and I got...
I mean, we did a whole set up where we had to go into overtime
for me to have my head blown off.
Or something happened to me, I can't remember.
But you actually see it in the film and it's so brief.
And you think, God, you nearly had see it in the film and it's so brief.
And you think, God, you nearly had a nervous breakdown to film that. And yet, it's barely even in the film.
Yeah, because I remember being on set and just like...
Because the guy who played the pizza delivery zombie throughout the early part of the scenes just didn't turn up one day.
And so because I was standing closest
to the casting director or whatever,
they went, you're about the same size,
do you wanna wear the helmet?
And because I'd nicked the script,
I also knew that that was gonna end with me
getting my head blown off with the Winchester rifle.
That got cut for time and practicality and all these things.
Gutting, because I would love to have been killed off
properly in a zombie movie,
but it's nice to be part of a genre
that doesn't really get made in the UK by and large, right?
No, absolutely. I mean it was, I mean I think, because it came out at the same time as the
Dawn of the Dead remake, which initially Edgar was a bit nervous about but I think it did
a lot of good for both movies.
It definitely helped like get that film more respect almost,
because when you have Tarantino and stuff saying,
it's good this film, you should watch it.
That helped break America, it helped break it.
It's good for the British film industry full stop.
And also I think, what would people forget,
now we're just completely and utterly oversaturated
with zombies.
Zombies, yeah.
You know, particularly, you know, Walking Dead, how many seasons?
There's so many of those and every other day there was a new zombie film.
I had this theory, you know when they say there's a line in the Romero's Dawn of the
Dead that the dead outnumber the living by ten to one or something.
Yeah, something like that.
I just think it's almost like a way of describing how many zombie films there are.
The living dead films outnumber the...
Zombie films outnumber the vampire and werewolf movies you're going to get, yeah.
...films with people who are living and...
movies you're going to get, yeah. Well, I've got films with people who are living and...
Yeah, it's completely oversaturated now.
It feels weird because I remember at the time it was like,
oh, a zombie film in the UK, that's unusual and rare.
And now they're all basically the genres tenor penny with that kind of thing
because ultimately how hard is it to put a bit of makeup on people
and say you're dead now shuffle.
Well you know where it really all sprung from was sprung sprung sprung sprung sprung sprung
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Yeah.
And it went down really well and they thought,
wouldn't it be amazing if we could actually make one of these zombie movies?
And they did.
And it ended up boosting both their careers, or everyone's careers in some respects.
Yeah.
It did a good job.
Oh, absolutely. This is why we're doing it
today because for me it was like a big part of my early 20s was spending all that time on set.
Was it Ealing? Elstree? Where was it? It was in Ealing. Ealing yeah and just hanging out with loads
of random people and seeing it all done because I was there I think I was even standing next to you
when you pulled off Dylan Moran's head. Yeah, possibly. But it's always nice to work at Ealing Studios because it has such an amazing legacy.
And you think, oh, I'm tearing off Dylan Moran's head where Alec Guinness stood
making the Leventer Hill Mob or whatever.
I remember that on the last day of filming,
it was they reshot the stuff with the army turned up to kill everyone and
everyone got gift bags on the last day of the set. I was because I was just a lowly extra
but I remember having two bottles of champagne with a guy who was a stunt man for the Bond films
Oh wow.
And he just talked my ear off.
And he was the guy who went, well no one's drinking this stuff, you have a bottle, I'll
have a bottle, let's sit down and chat.
And that was when I got the most legless I've ever been during the day and had to get home
from there to Shepherd's Bush, very very drunk.
Not much of an anecdote but it was fun to hang out with a stuntman and hear all the
stories about Pierce Brosnan and what not.
We've gone into the view of St Paul's. There we go. I know they're not Shaun of the Dead related I know.
No, but a nice shot of the shard from here. You've got a good good view of the shard and
look at St Paul's it's magnificent there you can see the whole the whole dome. I think some of
the best views in London are from this side of the you know Moswell, this area Highgate,
it's lovely around here.
Yeah, I mean, if you stand on the bridge. Oh, yeah.
Well, you always look smaller when you're on it
than when you're looking up at it.
Oh, absolutely.
See, this is part of the, this door,
this bricked up door here, I think that was part of it.
What?
Maybe.
On the passage.
Oh, right, we were talking about the scary underpass of Archway and there's a doorway
which is bricked up which Eli just pointed out.
It's a multitude of sins and horror stories I'm sure.
The horrible thing is, I just remember you go down into that horrible subway and you
just hear a tin can being kicked or glass smashing you just...
The sound of a future Morgangam actually.
You just think oh yeah.
It wasn't great.
Was there much of a point of it though considering?
Well it's because it's so road... it's like a motorway running through you know a city
isn't it this dual carriageway here. So it was to avoid, you know... Well I think also it became a little bit of a cardboard city under there and so they thought
well let's just seal it all off. Now there's the Charlotte Desparte. There's a pub I once,
I was desperate to go to the toilet and it was packed so normally I go to the bar and I say oh can I be
really cheeky and use your toilet and then they go yeah go on because it's
horrible when you say you walk in and walk out and I go oh wait but it was
crowded and I thought well he's not gonna I just went in there and this guy
followed me out the barman said what you did then was not cool he says you
didn't buy a drink you just come in you swan in pleased as punch and use my toilet I said well, you know
Hey, because it's living near a ambulance break. Yeah
You come in here
He said it's not cool to do that. I said well, I'm sorry. I was desperate. Do you know actually?
to do that. I said well I'm sorry I was desperate and do you know actually it is against the law for you not to allow me to use your toilet and get me a glass of
water and I could buy this pint of beer with postage stamps if I wanted. You
went full Karen then? Yeah yeah no yes so I never went in there again but it's closed down.
I think the owner was the Karen really. Yeah yeah yeah. Is the magnet a pub then? I don't know what the magnet is but I'm drawn to it I don't
know why. No it was a pub. It was. Oh I'm very slow today apologies everyone. This stretch
is like a sort of wasteland they don't seem to survive. No, no, there was a fish and chip shop. That's gone now.
This is where the subway came out.
Here.
This is all before my time. I only moved to London in 2001.
There used to be a boutique or something.
You know, this town, it's coming like a ghost town.
All the clubs and pubs are closed.
Which is funny enough, opens up the film of The Show the dead so it's all there yeah we can go there we go it's all right
we've played that out now because after this we're gonna go to Sean's flat
cartoon called Sean of the dead sure the sheep Sean the sheep it's a very
different Ardman animation II kind of thing did have zombie sheep in it right
don't know I'm not I'm not aware of the Sean world. What's it called? Black Sheep?
Is it a horror film called Black Sheep?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
That's right.
It's pretty good, actually. It's well worth watching.
I nearly walked into a tree, which in itself would have been amusing.
Do you know, talking about too many zombie films,
there's one I've watched recently called Flight of the Living Dead.
And it's really good.
It's basically snakes on a plane but with dead living dead.
Really enjoyed that one.
There are some good ones out there.
Wasting Away is another good one.
What was that one with Billy Connolly in?
Fido?
I remember that being pretty good.
I didn't realise that was Billy Connolly until half way through film. Oh wow. Because he didn't have the long hair.
And he wasn't going, oh he...
And no beard, yeah.
He was really good in it.
He's a great actor, Billy Connolly.
This is a goose, this part of the hospital, is it?
No, I always think that John Merrick's in one of these little...
It's got a real vibe.
Yeah, up in that tower.
Yeah.
Ha ha.
It's got, yeah, it's got a proper elephant man vibe.
Was it a mental hospital? Am I imagining that?
I thought I remember someone telling me.
I thought it was a college, wasn't it?
Yeah, it's a college, it's not a hospital.
It's a magnificent building.
Very gothic in some respects.
It's neo-gothic, quite literally.
Yeah. Very gothic in some respects. It's neo-gothic, quite literally.
Yeah.
There used to be a cinema on the end here.
It's been a squat for years.
They were going to redevelop it and turn it back into a theatre.
But that, you know, you read about, well, I actually went to the council meeting about
it and it was quite exciting.
And yeah, nothing came of that.
You know what they're doing, I think, is they're waiting for it to fall into such disrepair
that then they say, oh, we're going to pull it down because it's beyond repair. It seems
to be what they're doing with that, which would be a real shame.
Yeah, yeah. I nearly moved into Flowers Muse
and I was looking for a flat.
I'm quite glad I didn't.
It's quite noisy around here.
Yeah, I can imagine the noise of the big pane
living on this roundabout.
Well, because that's a nightclub over there.
Yes, that was such a cheesy nightclub, wasn't it?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I mean, it still is.
When I worked in Hill House, which is that one. Yeah. The big glass one. Yeah. The, yeah. I mean, it still is. It looks quite lovely. When I worked in Hill House, which is that one.
Yeah.
The big glass one.
Yeah.
The call centre.
And that's when that TSB was the Lloyds back in the day.
And it was called Chico's or something in the nightclub, wasn't it?
Something terrible.
Something glorious.
We went for Christmas drinks there.
We're all learning about each other today.
I know.
Well, here I am.
Now, this dentist, there's a dental surgery here, was Kevin Eldon's dentist and he recommended this dentist to me
because I was going all the way to Crawley down in Sussex for my family
dentist, this is very interesting. But the thing is, this was really nice, I had a
chipped tooth and I wanted to go and get it filed down.
I thought, well, I'm not gonna go all the way
to fucking Crawley for that.
And so Kevin said, well, go along and I'll recommend you.
You know, I'll put the word up, you know.
Yeah.
So you're all right.
So I went in and this dentist did it for free.
And I said, well, maybe I should join this, you know,
become one of your patients.
And he went, no, I'm not going to poach another dentist's patient.
What a lovely man.
He's retired now.
Fair enough.
Oh, here we are on Archway.
We've walked all the way down.
All those steps I'm going to have on my pedometer.
Yeah, my watch has already gone off to reward me on not being a lazy bone-arse bastard.
And now I've got to go back.
Oh, what, up the hill?
Up the hill.
Well, I'm not going to walk to Barnet.
Oh, sorry.
I'm going to get a tube, I think.
Fair enough.
Well, thank you for joining us on this little stretch of the walk.
No, it's an absolute pleasure.
We're going to head to Crouch End now.
Are you going to do the Sean walk to the shop?
You see, no, because everyone does it.
Oh right.
And we're an audio medium, it doesn't quite translate.
We could just pretend to do that right now.
Right.
But no, we will definitely walk to the corner shop and back.
Well, because this is an audio thing, like I said back in the pub,
you could just lie and you could be in bloody the Isle of Wight. I mean I'm going
to the Isle of Wight next week. I was going to say you were taking us with you. We could
say oh look there's Simon Pegg and Nick Frost on a Charabang and they're waving at us.
Hello guys, hello Simon Pegg. Thanks for the film. Oh now Bill Nye's giving me a piggyback. Do you know, did you see that Bill Nighy was on Twitter the other day?
That someone had taken a photograph of him out of his front room window.
And he said, look, is Bill Nighy listening to Birdsong in the moment?
And I said, well he's not in the moment now you arsehole.
Because you've taken a photo of it, it's gone viral.
That's a real invasion of his prims.
Yeah, you just think, just leave him alone.
And I put a tweet, Twitter up as Bill Nighy as a zombie from Shaun of the Dead.
And I said, ah lovely Bill Nighy about to attack me in my living room.
Because I thought, it's a bit cheeky isn't it?
Just a little bit cheeky.
I'm going to presume that wasn't your living room he was in then?
No it was a picture, it was a still from...
I just take things way too fucking literally.
Oh shut your faces. Right I'm going now.
Alright then. Well listen, thank you Mr Putnam for joining us on our walk.
Thank you for your stories and we hope to see you again soon.
Yeah hopefully sooner. Yes alright then.
Well listen. Good luck. Be lucky. Say goodbye hopefully sooner. Yes, all right then.
Well listen.
Good luck, be lucky.
Say goodbye to Mr. Putnam, Mr. Silverman.
Bye bye Mr. Putnam.
Shake his hand.
I'm gonna shake his hand now too.
Bye bye Paul Denning.
And now I'm gonna give him a cuddle and a kiss.
There we go.
There we go.
Right, well we'll leave you to it.
We're gonna sign off and we're gonna go to Crouch End now.
Crouch End.
We'll continue our walk.
41.
41.
Right, go on, get lost then.
We're done with you now. Bye bye!
Enjoy yourself. Do you need to cross the road?
I kind of just feel like we've walked you to the end of the road.
Get the tube, Paul.
No, I'm going to go back in and go for a wee wee.
Alright.
Because I live here.
Alright.
And say goodbye to my other half.
Alright.
Well send our love to her.
Yeah.
Thinking about her. Right. and if you want that audio footage
back of what you said earlier, you better pay big, because it's going to be expensive.
I love that badge.
Well, they're just going to talk about, that's a nice one.
That's the one that goes, okay.
No, that's not the okay one.
You make it neat, wee, mate.
It's a wee, big skinhead.
Isn't that Bob Hoskins who does it? The voice of that.
I think even Phil Daniels is on there.
They're all in there.
It's a classic ad.
Well, it was that kind of period, wasn't it, where skinheads were in adverts.
Doing the personal, you know, oh, man!
Yeah, that's a classic one, isn't it?
And the one where the...
Do you remember the skinhead who had his...
And then there's the one where they were kind of...
I mean mean even like
to do it all but it was all very madness and can't get quicker than a quick fit
fitter and obviously the other one follow the bear
but they were it's all a bit kind of wide wasn't it just mind her and only
fools were all big at the time.
Right, well we spoke for 26 minutes and now we're going down Old Man territory.
So we're going to move on and we're going to crack on, but we'll see you next time.
Bye bye Mr Putnay. Bye bye.
Why is he getting angry about having a... Yeah exactly, what's your fucking issue?
He's like, I'm from around here.
I'm like, okay, it's a Halen ride.
I take my chances, you know what I mean?
Anyway we're arguing the toss about the W5 Halen Ride bus route, Archway to Haringey.
It's a great bus route.
It's a funny one, innit?
It's got a Halen ride. Not Halen pace though. Who we've been discussing as well. Yeah because
they're in a thing called Saturday Stay Back. I've never heard the phrase stay back before
when it comes to a lock in. Yeah a stay back, it makes sense doesn't it? Oh they're having
a chat. Little bus drivers having a chat. It's great. Great little route.
So here's the Londis which means that's it's Sean's house. Oh we're here. 83. I think
it's 83. Bare with. Double check. So anyway we're here on Nelson Road. Where are we? It's
going right there and he came up here. No because he crosses over. It's all done from
one side. It doesn all done from one side.
It doesn't break the 180 rule.
So it has to be this way.
Just bring up this image.
The 180 rule.
It is.
It's the 180 rule.
83 Western Park.
Now, that's when you've got a dialogue scene.
That's the 180 rule.
It doesn't matter.
He still doesn't break that side on.
I'm still literally correct. Right so this is
Nelson Road so it's not that it's I don't know 83 Western Park Crouch End.
Yeah this is it this is the house this here on here. Yes it is. So here we are
we found it now and there's the lawn this way he goes to for his Cornetto.
Here we are. Where are we? 83. Yeah, so we're here. What are they saying?
They're taking the piss. They asked what happened at that place. They don't know. Everyone keeps
talking to us. Mate, that's a fanny magnet that thing. No, it's not a fanny magnet. Give me that
and I'll go around pretending I'm talking to someone and I'll get dates. No, you won't.
So look, here we are. We're outside of Sean's flat can you take a
picture of me again I'm gonna stand on
the other side of the road and then for
our video we'll do the Sean walk the
shop to the corner shop and back so here
we are so obviously the inside of this
building that's where I remember my
memories of playing Mario Kart GBA with
Oscar right sexy yeah I look
sexy so there's the Londis just there
where he gets his um Cornetto and stuff.
Was it a Londis in the film? I don't know I
don't think it was all I know is that
that's the corner shop. I said it was that old school.
Is it that one on the corner? It's right it's that one there it says Londis
literally on the fuck in the top that's it
next to a place called Foundland which
now has spurned my interest.
So here we are.
Spurned your interest?
Spurned my interest.
Spurned my interest.
Alright, I'll fucking use whatever words I want, you prick.
So in the film he comes down here, he walks past, there's a ball, there's a cycle for
pizza delivery boy, because I think there used to be a pizza place on here or the wads for
the film anyway
Yeah, so in there we go. This is the
This is the corner shop, I believe
the sign of a good laundrette
Forko I
Like that. I kind of like that though. I like that off-license
minimart do something where I like that though, I like that. Off-license mini mart.
Do something where...
You found a chair, you make it nice and you set it here.
That's good though, isn't it? I like that. Foundland.
I'm going to look at that online actually, see what they say about it.
What I find interesting about this little terrace is there's three almost identical convenience stores just right next to each other there's one on the end there
Weston Weston off-license there's the K&A Mini Mark and there's the Londis
you know yeah good in it right we doing the walk have we done the walk well
we're here now we've done well we're going to do the walk now on the camera
on the 360 we're going to walk to here and then we're going to walk back from
the Londis to the house.
And that's our pilgrimage for the video version of this.
Do I just stay here while you do it?
I'll fucking do it then.
Why don't you have any joy?
Why don't you have any real joy about anything you do?
That's not true.
I've never seen you experience real joy.
Unfiltered joy where you can't contain yourself.
I've seen you do Schaudenfreude. I've you do like a little kind of snippy little all that's
nice it's like greed I think you greed shut up seen you do need you know
give me Charlie Freud I would give me joy well you slap yourself in the face
oh what if I wank off here would that be bring you joy? What if I put my leg right up here and I start stroking it?
Don't try and get all cheap showy.
We're having a nice walkabout episode.
Drop of the dead. How about that?
You're the one who had two suicide attempts. You call me joyless.
Yeah, but that's then, this is now.
I'm full of joy. I'm not full of joy.
You're the least joyous person I know. That's not true. It is. I've never seen you have a single unfiltered moment of joy that hasn't
been guarded, that isn't somehow held back. I haven't guarded moments of joy. Like when?
Twice a day. When? Ah ha ha. Not joy, is it? Right, well I'm going to do the walk then
because I have joy. Do you want me to come for the fucking walk? No, I don't care what you do.
No, I'm coming now.
I don't care what you do.
You call me joyless and I'm doing the walk now.
So you're going to do the walk, are you?
Yes.
Just because I'm doing it, because I've said you're joyless.
Yes.
That makes you a coward and a weakling as well.
I'm going back.
Yeah, you can't even stand your ground.
You joyless, horrible monster.
Let's get the fuck out of here.
I'm going to do it, all right?
I'm going to do do it he's walked off
coward stumpy coward I'm fucking done with you I'm gonna do me walk right
we'll see you because after this we're heading to our final location and that
final location involves quite a bit of a fucking train journey to South London
because even though most of Shaun the Dead is set in North London the finale
the pub is in the south.
So I'm just gonna say goodbye.
Oh, look at him.
Wandering around.
Shocking.
What?
He's an old man looking at us, confused at what we're doing.
You joining me?
You gonna join me on this?
All right, good.
In that case, if you wanna go to our YouTube channel, you'll be able to see me and Eli do Sean's Walk.
Sean's Walk.
Why is it called Sean's Walk?
Because Sean walks from that place to there and back.
Why does it have a name?
Because in the film, it's done in one shot. He comes out of the house, he walks along, he's not paying attention to everything in the background.
Careful not to break the 180 rule.
Yes. He goes to the laundish shop, buys a cornetto and comes back all in
one shot right. A cornetto trilogy. Yeah it's weird kind of was an accidental term it
wasn't predisposed. Is there a cornetto in each one? Either way it's it's it's
famous because in what they do it they do it twice in the film once it's like
he's just getting up and he's drawn congover and he's going to get a cornetto
and come back and there's like a kid playing football
and a guy on the bike.
And then when he does it the second time
during the zombie apocalypse, there's a kid there
but he's obviously a zombie.
There's the zombie thing and he doesn't realise
but he's tuned now, he doesn't realise it's going on.
So that one take back and forth shows how kind of
locked into his own thing is.
And also shows
the change that's happened with the apocalypse. Exactly. So it's a visual thing. But apparently
for Eli that's fucking gimmicky apparently. Apparently Eli doesn't really have a great
grasp of cinematic grammar and art. Don't start this shit. Basically if you break the
180 rule mate. Oh what's all that about? What's all this? Fuck off. See Joyless we've discovered
you're joyless. You've run out of fucking things to say so it's attack Elo moment isn't it?
You've spot on. Yes exactly. So stop please. It hurts my feelings. It hurts my feelings.
You have none. You don't have any feelings. Joyless people don't have feelings. Right
we're gonna see you next time I see you we're
gonna be south of the river. I did film studies. Yeah and clown studies you did it all mate
where'd that get you? Here on a street corner with me. No God, God. Bear in mind.
Look at that joy going. Dead. Flushed it. Right see you in a bit.
Right so me and Eli now we're on the train heading down to New Cross Gate and I just
wanted to use this moment of our travels to mention that I've got my photo album of images
from Shaun the Dead and I'll post them on our website with this issue, with this episode.
So you can see because I've noticed that a lot of the locations we're here today I wasn't
there for and most of the stuff we're here today, I wasn't there for.
And most of the stuff I did was on set or whatever.
So just saying that when we get to this last location, I've got a few more on the ground
opinions of what happened and where we were going to.
But most of the stuff, I was up on set.
So the Sean Flatt set, the inside of the pub set.
I mean, I got to see them film the famous Duke Box Queen
Don't Stop Us Now moment,
you know, where they beat the landlord to death.
Oh, did they play that song in there?
Yeah, it's brilliant.
It's all choreographed and I was there for that
because literally they had to get a dancer in
and a stunt man to work together
to see how they were gonna do everything.
So most of my time on set was just on those sound stages
and bits of extra work elsewhere.
Like White City for example, they filmed a few places.
It's a knockout zombie thing with Keith Chegwin, right, in it.
It's only on, yeah, it's on a TV screen in the background,
but they had to spend the whole day filming people pretending to be zombies
falling over on a kind of bouncy castle type stuff.
It's never in the shot? Like fully in the frame?
No, it's always on a TV in the background or whatever. So there's stuff like that I was there for.
There was a bit where a guy was coming out of a building and there was lots of press there saying
what's this virus, can you tell us more? And I was one of the hands holding a tape recorder saying
questions, questions. So it was all there for like pickups and stuff like that.
But most of it was inside studios.
So where we're heading to tonight
was actually a fair chunk of the filming time.
It was just on the streets outside of this location,
lying on the ground.
What location are we going to now, Paul?
Well, the Winchester Pub in New Crossgate.
Did they film the outside of it?
Yeah, but all the inside was on set.
So what's that Winchester in Archway that we just went past?
The inspiration for the action.
That's just the inspiration, that wasn't an actual location.
Well that's what Paul Pointner was saying, he was saying when they were in the Boogaloo writing it, or when it was called The Shepherds,
they were imagining we would go to that Winchester pub because they could walk across the rooftops and go two stops to the gun shop that used to be
there, buy a gun and come back, right?
In order to kill zombies?
Yeah.
But when they got around to filming it, that location was impossible because how would
you close off the whole of that high road, fill it with zombies the night?
You couldn't do it.
So long story short, they filmed it at a pub that was easier to control this area
of.
And we're heading now and what's the, but it's called the Winchester in the film, did
they put a fake sign up or something?
Yeah, I mean when we get there I'll tell you what the pub was called then but now it's
flats. Now it's not even a pub anymore.
A lot of pubs close don't they?
They do when they turn, banks and pubs are turned into coffee shops and flats, is what it comes down to.
So we're on our way to this last location.
I don't mind telling you, mate, I'm flagging. It's been a longer day than I expected.
This is the bit where Eli tells everyone now that he was right and he guessed right and blah blah blah.
Isn't he perfect? Isn't he always a spotless fucking human being?
Don't attack me. Please, don't attack me.
It hurts my feelings.
You're a point scorer, that's all.
It hurts my feelings.
You're a petty point scorer.
I wasn't gonna say that.
All right, go on.
I was gonna say yes, I'm also knackered.
I was hungover to begin with.
Prick.
Fair play, fair play.
Anyway, we're getting a bit grouchy now
because mummy and daddy are falling out
because of the long journey.
But we're heading on the Overground.
Yeah, I know.
No, I don't know why people think I'm a nice guy.
No one does.
No one does, Paul.
Hopefully by the end of this podcast when it finally finishes, my reputation will be
in the doldrums.
I like this journey on the Tube.
I like going past all these weird little nuts and crannies.
On the Tube system.
The Overland, as you say.
Overland, underground, over-wobbling free.
We're heading to West Croydon.
Yeah.
But we're going to get off at New Cross Gate.
No, no, no, no, New Cross Gate. New, New, New Cross Gate.
Which is...
Oh, we're in Whitechapel now.
West Croydon is where we started our latest night bussing spin-off podcast
available to patrons. Is that where we headed to? Got my brain is spaghetti.
My brain is spaghetti. Am I dying of dementia? No you just have very poor
discipline when it comes to focus and shit. Recall. Recall and focus.
Total recall. Get your ass to Mars.
So you're good at linking things in an
asterisk way. It's a skill that in no way benefits me
or humanity. No. And yet it's all I've got.
John Nettles. John Nettles,
Wincy Willis, Cracker Jack, Balls Eye, I win.
Coronation Street, Whitechapel.
Mornington Crescent.
Win.
Oh, you won.
Eli won Mornington Crescent.
So how many stops are we away now?
I don't know.
A load.
A load.
Anyway, we're on the train and we're heading there.
I just thought I'd give you a little bit of a thing.
I'm not trying to score a point, Paul,
but I did know it was gonna be a long day.
When I looked at your route.
I knew it was gonna be a long day. Well, I thought was most the first chunk of it
Would be done pretty quickly because it was so close to each other
But you know, I hope their people enjoyed listening to this
Well, if they don't they could just do they've probably turned it off by now and if they have to do that by now fuck you
Can we stop this little thing yeah Yeah, I'm stopping it now.
I'm doing this.
Fine.
Utah Sinks.
Hi.
Why did you say that?
I don't know. I don't know why I do anything anymore. Right boys and girls, ladies and gentlemen, children of all ages, we have reached our
final destination on our cheap show,
Walk of the Shaun of the Dead walk.
And we're heading towards the location
of what was the Duke of Albany,
originally was the name of the pub,
but was rebranded the Winchester for Shaun of the Dead.
Now, to stand in for the real Winchester,
which we walked past Arpinouch Way.
And I can only imagine they picked this
because of the location,
because it's quite, it's off the beaten track
to some extent, you know,
it's easier to control these streets.
And I think I don't remember-
Much quieter streets, yeah.
And I remember when we walked up here as an extra,
waiting to, you know, find it,
there were signs all around the streets saying,
this, we apologize, we're making a horror film here,
that you will find bodies and innards and blood everywhere we apologize but don't call the police
and so that was scattered around. That would be the perfect cover for chopping someone up.
Well I thought isn't there must have been a horror film where they said that like we're making a horror film
but we're really making a snuff or something. Yeah that's like a Jallow style sort of.
Wasn't there a film called like Mute Witness about a woman who couldn't speak and she was trapped in a warehouse with gangsters and they were killing off but she couldn't call
for help because she was mute.
She was mute?
Yeah.
I believe that was a good film but it's been a while.
But anyway, yeah, here's the pub on the corner I think now.
So this whole street, and this whole street was locked off and there were signs everywhere
but they would leave notes at the neighbours to say, do you want to be a zombie?
Do you want to come out into the street at two in the morning and whatever?
No, I think they had to give everyone a quid.
Um...
Did they give you a quid though? Is that all you got?
Yeah. Yeah, this is it, because look at the old pub signs there, but actually the visage
of it has completely changed.
Well, it's in flats now, isn't it?
Hang on.
You need to take these shots because my phone is...
Dying on its arse. Let me just put you in. There he is.
Looking like a zombie or something.
There you go.
And now take a picture of me looking like a zombie or something.
But like literally, the park we just went through, that was different 20 years ago obviously,
but this is where Shaun and his team come through and pretend to be zombies to make
the walk from here to there. And if you watch the film now that's not there this park was
all gated off and a bit run down no no because that's reasonably brand new
it's horrendous and then all this street was where like there used to be a phone
box this was that an actual that was still there that was pretty much a house
still even then it's just used to be a shop yeah but and here we are now so 39 ago. Yeah. But, and here we are now. So 39 Monsoon Road, they used the old,
see look what it says there,
fictionally the Winchester.
That's interesting.
So they've at least weirdly kept-
That's the first thing all day
where we've seen any mention.
And it's pretty obtuse
because they don't mention the film.
No.
They just say fictionally.
Fictionally the Winchester.
But you know, they could have easily have put previously the Duke of Albany yeah
but like all this was a proper pub it all came out to about here it's probably
a selling point for the people who buy the flats there or something you know
something we never film agents say you know they never filmed inside the pub
because it didn't quite match what they had on set but when the place is on fire
they put fire rigs in the windows of the pub
and smashed glass.
Oh, did they?
There was a scene apparently,
no, not apparently, I was there on the day,
where they had to throw a bin through a window.
I can't remember if it was Dylan Moran
who did it or whatever,
but he went to pick it up and went to throw it,
and then went, wait, no, no, no,
they haven't put the fake glass in yet.
And then he was like, oh shit.
And then the table was there as well,
where Simon Pegg stands on to get the attention of the zombies.
He was on the table, we're all crowding around and reaching,
and he freaked out going, no, this is too real,
this is too weird, stop, stop, stop, stop, stop.
Because it was so weird for him to be surrounded by people,
him standing alone on this table,
that it all kind of overcame him.
Simon Pegg?
Yeah, and there used to be a phone box there as well.
Perhaps that's why he's turned to Scientology.
He hasn't turned to Scientology.
Are you sure? I just think he doesn't want to talkology. He hasn't turned to Scientology. Are you sure?
I just think he doesn't want to talk about it because his best friend's Tom Cruise.
I think it's that thing.
Oh, okay.
But yeah, there was a phone box here.
The garage.
Not the garage.
You know the way they put the barrels for the booze?
The cellar.
The cellar.
But there's a little door for it or whatever.
The hatch for the cellar.
Yeah.
The cellar door.
Oh yeah, the cellar door.
That was there and that's where they came in and out and that's when the army truck pulls up here.
And then there's all this stuff.
Literally this whole street was covered in limbs and zombies.
This was my patch here basically.
This was my patch up until the corner.
21 years ago.
And the weird thing is though, it feels so much smaller now that I'm back here.
Maybe because I'm a bigger man.
You're not though?
You'd stopped growing by then, Paul.
Maybe, I don't know.
All I know is that it kind of feels,
this corner feels smaller.
In my memory, I seem to remember it being wider.
I think there might be a psychological reason for that,
in that there was more, there was more in the space.
Yeah.
So the space seemed larger to contain
all the stuff that was in it, maybe, I don't know.
I don't know. And also you said, were there old houses where that new build is or was that...
I'd have to look at the pictures again to be honest now. Well this is our final destination
anyway. We are at the pub where the bulk of the plot takes place. There's the old sign as well
for it. Yeah. But this was all curved wasn't it? So this is all reasonably new. They've
squared off this to make it more of a flat.
They've squared what?
This side of the building, because this is all curved.
Did it?
Yeah, because it's the pubic curve. It didn't have any...
Are you sure this looks original?
No, no, no.
This is the original...
No, but what I'm saying is they've squared it off there because this came out to the corner.
This was all pub up until the sign.
Are you sure?
Yes, definitely.
Do you want me to have a look? Do you want me to show you the image?
I do.
You fucking watch.
That's to my interest because this looks like the original structure to me.
No it is, up until that corner and then it's basically been snapped off.
Alright, so that's where we are right now.
So where's the old pub? There we go, see how it came out.
Wait, don't touch it. Don't you fucking touch my phone. See there?
It came out, there's a great big arch down. out. Wait, don't touch it. Don't you fucking touch my phone. See there, it came out.
There's a great big arch down.
Absolutely right.
The Winchester Tavern, the Duke of Albany.
The Duke had a sign, a curved mosaic sign.
Yeah, so it says here, North London Highgate,
blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah,
East Finchley.
Odd then that has such a trek down
to his beloved local booze.
Yeah, it is strange that they went all the way south
for this one particular venue.
Film has been closed down and remodeled and converted into flats. I don't know when that was
but I think at least 10 years ago I think now. Yeah. But here we are. Not a bad quite sympathetic
job on the remodel isn't it? I mean it is what it is. I mean it's a decent shitty patio. It looks
like Tory. The patio is not great. Yeah but I mean it looks like all these things that have
been converted into flats it's kind of nonondescript now Paul. Have you put?
Have you put the ghost of?
Sean of the Dead is not a ghost is a zombie, but have you put the zone?
Have I put the capitated the zombie of my memories of this thing?
I mean there are loads of stories that I can't I haven't told because they've all mostly took place on the film set
You know like I was if you watch the film when they zombies break into the film, when the zombies break into the pub
at the end and smash into the cellar,
it's my foot that comes through that you can see.
And in some...
So Hazlett does have a van on it.
No, but it was a kind of sneakers.
It was a thing.
And so it was me and some other guy, a bald guy,
I can't remember his name, but he's production coordinator.
We're the only two people left to be zombies
for those kind of pick-up shots of like...
They really had a zombie problem, didn't they?
There were loads of zombies but often they didn't have the time to get as many as they wanted or the money
so they worked with what they had and I was always there so like I would be a
hand smashing this or a foot kicking that or whatever but it was nice to just
chill and as I say we were here at like 11 at night till 4 in the morning then a
coach would pick us up from the end of the street and drive us all back to Hammersmith where we were
dropped off. Wow. Weird. Like we had to meet at Hammersmith at 11 at night and
then drive all the way down here. Night sheets yeah. Yeah and it was all night.
Big rigs, camera crew. Just feels like a pain to me. It would be though but imagine if you want to
make your film you have to do it right. Yeah but you enjoyed the whole experience
you were well into it is what I mean.
Yeah, because some extras were like,
why are we still waiting?
I'm so bored.
And it's like, I'm sorry, mate,
this is what extra life fucking is.
Some people got so arsey about it,
this food's awful, I won't eat it.
Mate, it's a fucking low budget.
That's a trope that extras always complain.
But it's a trope that I've seen with my own eyes.
They're obsessed with the catering,
always obsessed with the catering.
One guy was-
Some people do it as a career, they're extras.
One guy was kicked off the set, because if I remember rightly he went up to one of the producers and went
I'm sorry I'm not waiting around, when am I going to have my shot?
And it's like, this isn't your fucking film mate, because I was on Pirates of the Caribbean or something
or I was in this, you know.
Always that type of person, sort of petty and moany.
So here we are, we're done.
This is our extra on Mike Lee's Naked.
Wow that going back a while. Was that interesting? Well he picked...
Did we do a walk of that? No, I can't remember where it was but they were all moaning all the extras and then we were a
group of young men who would, I don't know if you know the film, we attacked David.
We beat up David through IlyLis's character in the street.
And Mike Lee said to me,
I want you to stay and give him a few extra kicks.
And then one of these other sort of professional extras
said to me, this is your chance, mate.
This is your chance, look at the camera and smile.
And it's just like, what the?
That's not, you know what I mean?
They're just so weird, they're sort of mind-fright.
They've got this whole sort of-
Because you think this is how they're gonna be
the next big superstar, right?
And they're obsessed with that sort of myth
of having a break, you know?
They saw me and I was like,
no, I'm just gonna kick, I'm doing this.
I've been told to be an angry man,
kick another man.
I don't think I'm gonna give
a fucking Noel Edmonds wink to the camera.
A little thumbs up, like silly.
Ooh.
You know?
Anyway, so that's it.
So this is it, this is our Sean and Ed walk.
I've enjoyed it, it's been a nice little walk. I've enjoyed it, Paul. I just wish I wasn't so hungover you and Paul Potter both turn up stereo
Yeah, although you think though with all those extras moaning. They someone should have turned around said make it your character moan
There you go, okay one last question. Yeah, did you you didn't get paid at all? I got paid one pound
one last question. Yeah. Did you you didn't get paid at all? I got paid £1. Wow for the whole thing? Yeah yeah but that was the deal. What were you doing for money at the time? Well I was doing
temp work so when I wasn't doing like these three days in a row, other couple of days I was at a
temp job right? Oh my fucking god. No it sucked but also I had a lot of free time and my financial
situation was weird because I was also living in LA and then in London I was making lots of money in LA and no money in London. You could afford to do it basically. Yeah. Yeah, but I just wouldn't
One quid that's non-union business
No, no, it is union they legally have to pay you something and the least they can pay is a quid
I think about if you're a fan of Simon Pegg in space
and you're making a zombie film.
I guess so, but it's so much good will.
I can't imagine that happening these days.
I'm sure it does.
I'm sure if we created Cheap Show the movie
and we said we want 12 extras,
but we're gonna pay you a quid for the day,
12 people would be dumb enough to sit there
as we come all over them in the film.
Right, so we're now gonna wrap up and head home
because it's getting late.
What time is it now?
9.20.
Nine o'clock. It is nine o'clock. We've started at one o'clock this afternoon.
It is now nine o'clock and it's time to end because it's getting dark.
It's time to go home.
And the zombies might come out, Eli. They might come out again.
We've got to get out of here. Otherwise we'll have to beat them to death with cricket bats and shit
and do it to the tune of Queens Don't Stop Me Now.
I'm just saying that's what could happen. Okay I've got nothing to respond to. How are we
gonna end this episode? Why do you always worry so much? Because you've got to send them off smiling.
Thank you very much for listening. You've got to send the listener off smiling.
Do you want to say about our Patreon or something? No, no. Look, pictures for this episode will be on our website
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patreon.com forward slash cheapshow.
Give what you can, but only if you can.
And hopefully you've enjoyed this 20 year retrospective, kind of,
of the walk of the Shaun of the Dead.
Thanks, Paul.
Thanks, Eli.
Now let's go home. It's been a long day and we've earned a snack, a bite
and a smoke of the old jazz cigar.
All right, take care.
Bye bye everyone.
The Bebop Woodbine.
The Bebop Woodbine, I like that one.
Thank you to Paul Putner for being on the show as well.
And Mr. Putner.
And we'll see you next week
on another thrilling Cheap Show podcast.
We're gonna do sauces, aren't we?
Don't throw in continuity.
What if we don't?
I thought, you know what I thought
when you told me we're gonna do this today?
This is just your way of getting out
of the impending source report.
I found a whole bunch of sources.
That's all we've got time for on this week's episode of Cheap Show.
It's been all children of the dead walkabout special visiting the locations.
You can see the map and images on our website.
And I'm going to get out of here before I fucking shut up.
Short source of the dead.
Ooh.
Ooh.
Ooh.
Mr. Director, put a pin in that.
Don't put a pin in anything.
You can't. Ooh, ooh, Mr. Director, put a pin in that. Don't put a pin in anything, you cunt.