Chilluminati Podcast - Episode 264 - Having Ego Death in an Ambulance

Episode Date: September 8, 2024

And Mike finally sees a UFO? Jesse, Alex and Mike break down some weird stuff this week. MERCH - http://www.theyetee.com/collections/chilluminati Special thanks to our sponsors this episode - GhostBed... - http://www.ghostbed.com/chill All you lovely people at Patreon! HTTP://PATREON.COM/CHILLUMINATIPOD Jesse Cox - http://www.youtube.com/jessecox Alex Faciane - http://www.youtube.com/user/superbeardbros Editor - DeanCutty http://www.twitter.com/deancutty Art Commissioned by - http://www.mollyheadycarroll.com

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Starting point is 00:00:00 One in eight Canadian men are expected to be diagnosed with prostate cancer in their lifetime. Black men have almost double the risk. Know your risk. Visit the Canadian Cancer Society website at cancer.ca forward slash know your risk to learn more. Hello everybody and welcome back to the Shaluminati Podcast episode 264 as always I'm one of your hosts Mike Martin today joined by the one and only, oh, I didn't think of something ahead of time. Oh, you know what? Fox and Andros of LA, Alex and Jesse.
Starting point is 00:00:53 Whoa, Fox and Andros. I'm more of an Andros than Alex. And I feel comfortable as a fox. Yeah. That really, I had, that was the only thought I had too. I was like, yeah, that's the only thing that makes sense. I'm probably more like peppy hair than Fox if we're splitting hairs
Starting point is 00:01:10 Definitely we all know What's his name? I won't call him toad. He's nice. You're slippy slippy. Yeah the frog, you know, I'm slippy Yeah, you feel like a slippy if I was gonna be anyone I'd be a the dog guy the dog Oh, yeah, the guy on the ship me we need your help yeah good luck I'll do my best man don't worry about it dog I got this in the in the cut I'll take care of this no problem just sit back and relax you old bastard Good luck forgot how how like nasty Fox gets?
Starting point is 00:01:49 I'm all horned up and ready to fly. That's just me just me flying in on an Arwing Welcome back Alex, by the way after your week off after your wedding. Congratulations. You have Congratulations, do you see you? I seem lighter without the sin that I was living in mostly because without the beard as everybody on patreon is seeing You've gotten you've the beard has been trimmed the hair's been cut. You are a very Kept man right now. I'm so I heard and appreciate you Alex. It was a good joke. I liked it I didn't hear I didn't get I'm too fucking autistic for jokes sometimes Yeah, probably no. Yeah, no absolutely
Starting point is 00:02:28 Flies over red all the time. It's all good Yeah, thank you. I Show was worth worse without you with Santel here others might say it was better some might just sent I was a wrecking ball. Yes. He's an absolute wrecking ball. He's a wrecking ball at the wedding. Yeah, dude. I had such a good time seeing everybody in real life. It was so fun. I'm do we already talk about the UFO that you saw not know that was we left that for the mini so exclusive until you
Starting point is 00:02:55 came back. Oh my God. I must stress. I was like do it for patreon. That's fun and we did and then in the patreon episode. He's like, I'm just gonna do it next week when I was gets back to I told really cool. Not to tell the story until I was on the microphone. So he still doesn't even know. I don't know what happened. Yeah. Yeah. He has no fucking idea. He's been dealing with my
Starting point is 00:03:16 nightly insanity for the past straight week, but that's we'll get to that part. It's great because it's like I Feel like I'm profiling like a guy who because it's like I feel like I'm profiling like a guy who does this now. I feel like I'm a writer who's like profiling a guy, and I'm like starting to understand this. Like I'm living vicariously through math is like figuring out like what happens when you see something in the sky. And then suddenly you're like the sky.
Starting point is 00:03:40 And then like he's seeing shit that's legitimately kind of weird. I've got some of it on video for the last one, but I'll get to it. So, but not before the only reason Alex was able to afford his wedding, patreon.com slash Illuminati pod. Yeah. Uh, here's, here's what's up. Uh, I'm just really grateful that, uh, we have this wonderful show that we've been doing now for
Starting point is 00:04:05 45 years. And it's great that I was able to make this big step. And turns out we're okay. You guys, you guys saved us. We made it. I'm going to be all right. So now we can go back to funding the show instead. You can go back to funding all this great months. Yeah. All
Starting point is 00:04:25 this great research, all this great art. We can go back to funding that now instead of just funneling all the money into my wedding. So I just want to let everybody know. Thanks. All clear. Thanks for that. We all had a great time. My mom's going to be real happy. I don't have to borrow money anymore. I'm going to just say, I'm just going to insert myself here and say for the legality of maybe we probably shouldn't say the money was funneled into your wedding as a joke because maybe just maybe for tax purposes that might not be funny to them. That might not be funny to the IRS. All right. It's a bit-
Starting point is 00:04:58 Just gonna put it out there. It's a lie. I just bought a bunch of PS fives with money. I'm going to sell them to buy crypto. It's nothing to do with my wedding. You would leave it after they were commonly on the store shelves. Yeah. Somehow I feel like that might be better. Yeah. Yeah. Like dark web money, some kind of untraceable money. That's what we're trying to do here is convert the Patreon funds, untraceable money. And we're doing that by buying PS here is convert the Patreon funds to the untraceable money. Uh and we're
Starting point is 00:05:25 doing that by buying PS5. So, thanks. Right, right, right. Patreon.com slash Jaluminati Pod. Head down there and support our very very illegal crimes that we're doing. If you ever buy a PS5 through eBay and you get a box of bricks, that's us. Yeah. We did that to you. Yeah. We're letting you know now cuz you'll never track us. Yeah. Those little those little the little letters that have been coming in all the General Mills packages and all that shit that have all the weird codes on them. That's us. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah Anything you order on Tmoo. That's us. Yeah, we're just team. We are we are team
Starting point is 00:06:02 We we and we do and we do is it do we own it just like does the Chiluminati would own Tmoo. And we do. And we do. Do we own it? Does the Chiluminati own it? We funneled our Patreon money together. All the Patreon money has been funneled to a corporation in China where we are secretly running Tmoo. Yeah, we've teamed up with the Chinese government agency to run Tmoo. It's really bad, all the stuff that we're doing with this Patreon money.
Starting point is 00:06:23 So please don't give us. Here's the thing though Because technically it's your money. You're the crew you're on the hook We're the guy who's doing it. Yeah patreon.com slash to the naughty pod get some nice art from Mel Get get a episodes of our brand new show rotten popcorn and participate in one of the biggest scams ever perpetrated Lord new show, Rotten Popcorn, and participate in one of the biggest scams ever perpetrated in our lifetimes. Oh, Lord. And you. Hey, what are we doing today? Happy to be married. Happy to be back in jail real soon. Kelly's going to be visiting through a window. Welcome back, Alex. Yeah. So we're going to open with the UFO sighting because this is get this out
Starting point is 00:07:03 of the way and get it done. We talked about in the mini so last week. So everybody who listened to the mini soda Patreon, there's some new updates for you in this retelling. So first and foremost, I landed in LA OC Alex first wedding. I spent a couple days over in LA. It was actually really gorgeous out like weather wise and your wedding was fucking beautiful 10 out of 10. But the first that's great cuz Pat gave it an 8.7 on our show not so Yeah, he cited mostly the heat and lack of mixers were the Yo, honestly, that's a ding. That's a hot. Yeah, the mixers is fine. That's whatever but there was a moment It was so hot that I was like,
Starting point is 00:07:46 y'all, I don't think I can forget about this. Is it too hot? It's too hot. It's hot for like for like 30 minutes. It was like a little too hot. I. Yeah. So that's like it's not a 10. That's like a hand. I had snagged in the way back early. One of the benches under the shade, like I was in the back row and I was like hiding behind a plant.
Starting point is 00:08:06 Like it was awkwardly kind of stuck, tuck away. But the shade saved it. I was not hot at all. So not me. No, I saw you. I just sit on the middle of a little little bench thing with with all of our friends and then in front of us were giants. Did you get a person over six, like five that you knew were
Starting point is 00:08:24 was in front of my entire family is like like all like super tall did you get a chance to get one of the fake monstera fans at least to sun yourself like a southern bell uh I didn't until it was given to me I guess they noticed I was sweating like here you should have this I was like oh thank god thank you so much I realize that was the accent Jesse had for the rest of the I'm melting in front of like here. You should have this. I was like, Oh, thank God. Oh, Lord. Thank you so much. I realize that was the accent Jesse had for the rest of the wedding from there until the end. He held that he committed to that because he wasn't sure who knew
Starting point is 00:08:51 and who didn't know. So yeah, as long as I had that fan. Yes, that I arrive. It's Saturday. I arrive like, I don't know, mid afternoon. It's my Airbnb. Hilariously, Mel, friend of the podcast artist for Patreon and bunch of other things who was there for the wedding as well was like had the Airbnb in my backyard of my Airbnb like they were literally the same property the same crazy and her
Starting point is 00:09:15 and her boyfriend were in that in the backyard. I was fucking like what are the odds and they booked it. I asked them they booked there is like two or three months before I booked mine a week before so like there was zero coordination. It was just complete bizarre luck. Amazing. So they were there. And at night, we sat in the front yard of my Airbnb, there's an it was a nice little table out there. We were smoking and just kind of enjoying and chatting away for a while and around like, you know, just because of this podcast and my, you know, obsession with just, you know, UFOs in general and really enjoying that topic. I look at the sky a lot. I have seen all
Starting point is 00:09:51 kinds of **** None of it really all that unexplainable like you've I've seen satellites, countless satellites. I've been able to see the ISS go over like our skies. I've seen meteors come like little meteorites like hitting the atmosphere. I saw one in LA actually. I saw one of the last night while I was there. One kind of came across the sky. Helicopters I live versed in lots of aerial phenomena. I live right under a plane.
Starting point is 00:10:15 I don't know what we call it. Plane highway, plane road. You know, what do you call it? What do you call it? Like the they fly along. Well, like a flight path right under a flight path for the airport. That's the word. Yeah. I think path right under a flight path for the airport? That's the word. Yeah. I think I couldn't railroad for airplane.
Starting point is 00:10:29 A little airplane road in the sky in the air. Chat. That's all they want. They skid along the sky road. So, you know, I see a bunch of planes, a super low flying over my house, like rattles the house if it's a when it flies over kind of thing. So I see a lot of shit. Rattles the house, a little vibration, because like they're telling you, like I'm like me right near
Starting point is 00:10:49 like I'm 20 minutes, 15 minutes. Yeah, either way. Airplane airplane right under the airplane railroad. Yeah. So that night we were chatting. I'm looking up at the sky for the whole pretty much the whole time. We're smoking. It was just really nice. And then at like, I don't know, it was like Somewhere on 1010 30. Let me ask a question Let me ask a question just like the skeptic in me when you say pretty much the whole time we're smoking how long
Starting point is 00:11:13 I smoke all day every day. So like sure. Okay. All right, just I don't Hallucinations on weed it wasn't I wasn't poppin much Two nights he was there for two nights. He gave me a week. He made a debt. He made a debt. Yeah, I shared it with two other people. Um, but I mean, you guys, you know, he made, he made good use of it. A lot of times people, you know, come and they get weed and then they just give me like $400 worth of weed back. I was impressed. It never makes you paranoid at all. No, like it's fine No, God my tolerance high-functioning all day every day for like five or six years straight like yeah
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Starting point is 00:13:23 That's text C H I text chill to 64,000. That's text C-H-I-L-L to 64000. Message and data rates may apply. See terms for details. He's great. So anyway, I was just staring at the sky and I left-handed like the corner of my eye, not even like right in front of me. I thought what, I saw what it looked like
Starting point is 00:13:39 a satellite essentially. So I looked over and I see this little pinpoint light in the sky moving very slowly across. So I'm watching it. And after a couple seconds as my eyes adjust because it's a little dimmer than some of the stars And it looks really high up there I noticed that it actually has three lights blinking in a rotating triangular Form and as they guys adjust you can actually see what looks like a triangle way the fuck up there with those blinking lights in a rotation But it was moving in a straight line.
Starting point is 00:14:05 It was moving at a very slow, steady pace. There was no like change in speed. So I was just like, OK, it's probably a plane still. You don't know. I don't know what the fuck it could be. It's just plain or maybe it is a satellite or maybe it is the ISS. So anyway, I'm still watching it. And as I noticed the triangular flickering of the lights, I don't know what we're talking about, but I sit up from where I was sitting
Starting point is 00:14:24 and I point and I go, am I fucking crazy? Or can you see that too? And Mel and Rob her boyfriend who were both there both look up and the Rob goes the triangle with the flashing lights and I go yes that like that exactly that so I know they see it but it's still moving hasn't done anything weird just moving in a straight line about to like kind of go over where our view is and kind of where a lot of light pollution is and that's when it not it doesn't stop. It doesn't turn it maintains its axis and then just in the same speed without again any change of rotation or whatever. It starts
Starting point is 00:14:57 moving backwards the way it came like it there was and we watched it just kind of went for anybody in video I'm going to do my best here. But like it literally just kind of did this and then this right back. Like there was no rules out almost any aircraft. I guess so. Like I don't I've tried to find. It rules out almost any known aircraft besides. Yeah, I'm always hesitant to rule out drones. I've tried to find footage of drones. The problem with footage of drones, especially on YouTube, is they're mostly drone
Starting point is 00:15:24 footage of the from the drone themselves. Like, you know, it's a lot of like that. Not a lot of people take their phones out and record really far away drones unless they think it's UFOs, which is what I've been trying to see. But anyway, so it's the way you're describing it, though, it seems like it's too fast for a helicopter. There was no is zero sound. And the next night, I mean that night, too, but the next night as well, there were a ton of helicopters flying around but that's like almost every time I'm in that area So it's not there's a lot of choppers. There's a lot of choppers. Yeah And they're not nearly as high you if it was a tail light you would see it
Starting point is 00:15:55 I imagine swing around and turn when it goes the other way wouldn't go Well, I mean right and they can only maneuver so quickly, right? Like you don't see a chopper go like do do and like change direction like that. So that's kind of why I was kind of asking the question. It's like, are we saying it definitely wasn't an airplane for sure, but it definitely wasn't a helicopter. No, I don't. Yeah, I would. I confidently say that was no helicopter. But so it's still going backwards and now it's going back
Starting point is 00:16:23 along the same path that came on. And it's about to like go over my left, which is going over the house, which is where it originated from. And I said to them as it went back, I'm like, did you see that? And like, yeah, it's moving backwards now, but it's not has it turned or anything. So when it gets to the edge over there, that's when it does something weird where it just stops there. It just hovers. It doesn't like wobble. It doesn't turn. It just gets right over the edge and they go and it just stops and it's there for I don't know couple seconds, maybe three or four seconds at most and then it starts moving forward in front of us like in the way I'm
Starting point is 00:16:55 looking. I think it's north. I'd have to look at the map, but it just starts moving in that direction. Now again, none of this during any of this it hasn't pivoted on its axis at all. It has remained in a steady triangle. Either it's moving back on its flat side, moving forward on its pointed side or on the left or the right and weird angle. So it starts moving in that direction and then it stops and it hovers again and then it starts moving
Starting point is 00:17:17 to our left and it stops and it hovers again and then it starts moving to our right. And at that moment, I said jokingly just out loud like come, come on, fucking get come over this way. Let me see you better. I want to see like come over here. And that's when it's afterward, it starts moving toward us. Now, again, probably just a coincidence. I like said it out loud. You can Mel and Rob heard it.
Starting point is 00:17:38 And during this time, we're just losing your mind. I took out my phone and we tried to see this thing on camera. The problem was it was so dim that the camera couldn't pick it up over any of the other shit around. We saw a plane also fly by during this, but it did not intersect like the thing itself. So there was no way for me to know if the thing was below it or above it.
Starting point is 00:18:00 But we both tried to get it on our camera and we just couldn't get it. It was just like way too screaming and shouting and yelling. No, I was more confused. or above it. But we both tried to get it on our camera and we just couldn't get it. It was just way too high up. Were you screaming and shouting and yelling? No, I was more confused. I was like, every time it did something weird, I'm like, do you see it?
Starting point is 00:18:12 It stopped. And I'm just trying to confirm what I'm seeing with everybody else to make sure I'm not crazy. But it didn't move super close to us. It didn't lower. It didn't go directly over. It just kind of moved in our direction for a little bit, stopped, hovered. And then after that, it went to our right just kind of moved in our direction for a little bit stopped hovered
Starting point is 00:18:25 and then after that it went to our right and kind of just went into where the light pollution swallowed it and we lost sight Of it because if you had to guess how far see that's where I'm like This is why I'm like this is what's weird to me if it was as high as it looked that thing would have had to been Enormous, I would have had to have been because that thing looked really fucking high, but I could still see like the triangle and the lights like in the in the three corners and shit. But but possibly could have been like a much smaller drone. Yeah, I just haven't seen any drone footage yet. I would love if anybody can have it. We asked us in the Minnesota, but obviously, you know, maybe with a wider audience, a triangular drone that is physically a triangle
Starting point is 00:19:06 with three rotating blinking lights. They looked white. They weren't, like, really any color at all. They were just white lights. Did you see the shape of a triangle? Like, the full triangle, not just a dark color. Well, I'm not saying you can see the details, but you could physically make out the triangle itself
Starting point is 00:19:23 and the lights underneath it. I guess what I'm trying to get at is the human brain forms patterns, right? It's the reason why we see a face in bread or whatever, right? So my question is, was it the combination of lights plus basic shape that made it look like a triangle? Or was it very clearly a triangle? Like did you put pieces together in your head? Or was it like, oh, that's trying to once I saw it looked I just to my brain, just like, oh, that's a triangle that it looked like a physical object in the sky. It looked like something physical. The problem is it was I couldn't get details. It wasn't the lights creating the shape.
Starting point is 00:19:59 I could see the lights within the shape. But like the details of the shape were so hard because it looked so fucking high up and it was so dim. But you could see the shape. But like the details of the shape were so hard because it looked so fucking high up and it was so dim. But you could see the shape against the sky. So it was dim and dark. It was dim. And this is like black on black. It's like it's like, yeah, that's with white lights. And that's really all you have to work with. That's all you can see. So there's the potential that there could be like little those little propeller things on the side. And like all sorts of
Starting point is 00:20:23 stuff. Yes, I would. I just want to see something that moves in the way it did because drone or not, it didn't pivot on its axis. It didn't turn. It literally stayed on its triangular axis as it moved throughout and then it disappeared. And then that was the end of it. That was the end of the encounter. It was about three to five minutes at most. Like I would say probably closer to three or four. I don't, I think five might be too much. We confirm multiple times with all three of us. Everybody here saw everybody within their side.
Starting point is 00:20:50 And then we were just like, what are the fucking odds? It's weird. There's like something so mystical about it, because first you're like, Mel. And then you're like, you know, Mel said she had a great time just watching me watch it. But, you know, she confirmed she saw so did Rob Rob again Rob tried to take his phone out and try to get on camera like I did But it was just like it's like watching a baby being born math is seeing a UFO for the first time The devil's the devil's bargain begins. I hope you didn't whisper any I hope you didn't make too steep of a bargain He literally said come over here and it did. So I'm pretty sure that's enough.
Starting point is 00:21:25 That's for people. That would be enough proof for me. I can't rule out. It's a drone. Who fucking knows, right? There's the drone technology. So why now? But there didn't look like there was any moment momentum or inertia. It was the same speed with a just a perfect stop that it was. There was no wobble. Nothing. nothing else goes like it's done. And then it moved and stayed there and then it moved. So take that as you will the rest of the weekend. If it's so if you view it as not a drone, I don't know. But like maybe it's a military aircraft. Maybe it's something they're fucking with.
Starting point is 00:21:58 Is there any military stuff near where you are, Alex, or like within a decent distance where I'm at like LAX you know is right there and there's there's a couple of military bases around but I don't think anything where aircraft regularly take off yeah I mean so I open it up to the audience I would love links videos some maybe some diagrams or whatever of like a particular drone that fits that description because I'm not here. It's going to say, holy shit, it was aliens. All I can say it was a weird thing in the sky that I have yet to find an explanation for online, but I'm also fairly like not knowledgeable in the drone world. So I'm just trying to like learn as I go as well.
Starting point is 00:22:45 So the rest of the weekend nothing happens right and I go home I get home on Monday This was where this is where I start right like I this is where I start going Oh, I see how it makes people lose their minds like I start I have to act I said this to Alex I have to actively stop going outside and looking now because it's taking up my night But like he goes out like three or four times a day. I'm certain maybe more. So I get home. It's Monday night, which is trash night for me.
Starting point is 00:23:11 I grab my trash. I take it outside. It's like it's like 11 p.m. Right when I'm taking it out and as I'm going outside between two houses right in front of me, which faces directly west, there was this what I thought was a star in the sky. Wasn't moving. It was bright as fuck. And it was flashing like red, orange, white, but not in like any pattern,
Starting point is 00:23:30 just very fucking randomly and sporadically. I watched it for probably five minutes straight and just, it didn't move. It didn't get dimmer. It didn't move up or down. So I told myself, okay, it's probably like Sirius or Venus or any of the number of things that I've seen in the sky that have caught my eye before. But I kind of was able to figure out the planet.
Starting point is 00:23:49 It stopped me because it was so bright. It was just so much brighter than everything else. And it literally caught me and stopped me. But I wrote it off as a fucking star and I went inside 20 minutes later. There my trash is full in the kitchen. I'm like, I got to go take this outside and just add to the trash out there As I walk out there i'm looking up between the two houses and it's gone Just completely gone And I I said out loud you've got to be fucking kidding me and I walk out
Starting point is 00:24:14 I put the trash down. I start looking for the thing. I'm like, where is it? Did it actually just Can I ask you a question really quick just to like because it might be on some people's minds Do you know how people feel sometimes like they get sort of like a like a notion or feeling when they have these types of events, like some sort of impression? Sure. I don't think I have an impression like I was going to say. Do you feel any sort of connection between the thing that you saw here and the thing that I do? Like I can't I didn't immediately go, oh, shit, like, yeah,
Starting point is 00:24:44 the UFO crazy part of my brain that is filled with knowledge That is probably useless to me is like oh shit. This is how it happens the hitchhiker effect You see it it follows you whatever but I like that doesn't click with me They're so very different and I've also now start like I sent you guys a video in July of something that was flickering But again the camera doesn't make it look as bright as it was. And it reminds me of it. I can see this stuff. I can see this stuff in the footage.
Starting point is 00:25:10 Like he's not crazy. You know what I mean? Like when he sends me the stuff, I see it, but it's so it's so like it's enough for me to believe that he's looking at something in real life, but there's no value to it as like documentary zero value. This is the reason I'm not going on Reddit or anything. It's pointless.
Starting point is 00:25:27 Like it's just for myself to know that I saw something. So I go out there, it's fucking gone. And I get my heart like sank, not like I'm, oh, I'm scared, but almost like, are you like, what the fuck? And so I'm looking for it. Takes me maybe just a few seconds as I make my way out to the sidewalk and I fucking see it. It plummeted like way down below the tree line, like at the very base of where like
Starting point is 00:25:47 I would lose it to the horizon. Just like in between the leaves right there. And it's just bright as fuck flickering there. You can just catch it between the leaves. So I run in the house and I'm like, Jess, you have to come out here. She's like, what's wrong? I'm like, just come out here and tell him. And so she comes outside and I'm like, tell me, do you see what I'm seeing?
Starting point is 00:26:03 And she looks between the leaves and she's like, oh, yeah, that's real bright. That's just a plane. And so we watch it for minutes and it doesn't move. It doesn't like turn. It doesn't rotate. It doesn't grow distant, more bright. It just sits there. Does does her opinion change on what it is? I think it's a plane anymore. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:26:21 She doesn't know what it is, but she doesn't say like she's like, oh, that's not a plane because like it's clearly not an airplane. So we watch it for I'd say maybe less time than I was out there by myself. So another two, three minutes before there we just I was just like, well, I don't I'll come back out here in 20 minutes and see if it moved again. I'll time it. Basically the amount of time I went inside the first time to going up the next time. I didn't really think to get it on my phone. I didn't really like worry about it because I think there's a part of me that's like there's this still could be something that like maybe it is a star maybe it's something else in the sky. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:26:57 So I go inside 20 minutes past I go back out and it is gone. Like it's completely gone. It's not where it was. It hasn't moved. There's nowhere I could see it. Um, it was a completely clear night and it was, uh, completely just gone. So this was that Monday night. How close have you gotten to, how close have you gotten to driving? No, I haven't driven anywhere. I haven't gotten close cause I wouldn't even know where to go. Like honestly, like a West basically in that direction. To the mountain from the match making my own mountain and mashed potatoes. I'm wandering to the mountain from the match. I'm making my own mountain match potatoes. I have to go there. So, you know, it's gone and
Starting point is 00:27:30 that's between 11 like between 11 p.m. and midnight, all within under an hour for me seeing the first time to it going away. It doesn't track with the stars. It doesn't track with how fast the horizon moves. I've done all my research. It's like, how quickly do
Starting point is 00:27:44 things move through the sky? What is the closest thing that moves the quickest? Did you know, I've done all my research. It's like, how quickly do things move through the sky? What is the closest thing that moves the quickest? Did you know, like I did all my research. It isn't that. And so then then I just was like, OK, well, there's I don't know what that was. Still could be a drone. Let me let's see. Let me go out every night on those from this Monday, from that Monday night to the next Monday night at the same times, maybe a little earlier to see if I can catch him in the sky.
Starting point is 00:28:08 And then let me see if it's still there. If he did it there every night. And I was texting Alex every fucking night. I took pictures the next night. Nothing the night after that. Nothing the night after that. Nothing, nothing all the way until the next Monday. I went out Monday night and at the same time, and it wasn't fucking there. It hasn't been in the sky since except for when yesterday fucking happened and some weird shit that just it was making me that this is the point where I was like, I have to put
Starting point is 00:28:34 this away. Like I have to put this down because I can feel the claws of like me trying to want to figure this out and it being going crazy. Yeah, because there's just no way. So took out I went outside last night to bring the trash in because it was Tuesday night. And I was like, I'm going to, you know, I just went out to the front. I'm like, is it there? No, wasn't there. But on my left, I saw like what looked like a star flickering like crazy. Now it was a little bit further away.
Starting point is 00:28:59 It wasn't nearly as bright as the one on Monday, but it was flickering like like that one. And so I watched it didn't move. I watched it for long, probably longer than I should have. Like good 10 minutes, I think, passed overall. I was just outside sweating my ass off watching it. Didn't budge. So I was like, fucking going inside. Just a star. I'm losing my mind. About a what, a half hour, hour go by.
Starting point is 00:29:24 I'm like, I'm going back out there. And this is where I was like, I need to go see if it's still there. And I went outside and it fucking wasn't there. And this is where I started taking video. This is where I this is the moment where I start sending Alex video after video. I'm like, it's there. He said to me like three videos there and it's not there.
Starting point is 00:29:41 And I'm looking around and now on my right hand side, there's one that's doing the fucking same thing. And I'm watching it. And I can actually see a star where I can kind of measure it to. And it does the same tree line thing. Yes. So I see it.
Starting point is 00:29:57 I'm like, OK, I'm going inside. I'll come back out in a little bit. When I come back out, it dropped below the tree line in 10 minutes. So I'm watching it. And I'm actually on video doing this. And I think like the one where you see it disappear, right, Alex? You saw it like, yeah, yeah, it just goes away.
Starting point is 00:30:12 Like it's there, it's there, it's there. And then it just goes away. This and the thing that drove me insane, the fucking thing that I thought I was a star that I was measuring to it disappears to it's gone. And so I'm like, what the fuck? It's clear fucking out. You need like a night. You need like a night.
Starting point is 00:30:31 And the thing is, and then the last thing that happened that I was like, I'm done. I can't because I don't know what would have been between the two of them somewhere in between. I watch a fucking light up here. I just see it arrive. And then the one that was on, I forgot to fucking even mention, I watched one of them dim out the one on my left fucking went whoop and just dimmed like a light. Like somebody went to the dimmer. Remember that time? I
Starting point is 00:30:55 think I saw that thing in the car that dimmed out, but there was a lot of potential explanations for that, which could potentially carry this as well. But I watched it dim out on my left and I watched the one in the middle yesterday fucking come in. I like watched it and I, and then for a few minutes and that's when I went inside and I like sent the videos to Alex and I even said to Jess, I'm like, I can't, I can't,
Starting point is 00:31:15 I can't go out there. I'm like, I don't know what, I don't know. I'm losing it. Like I'm starting to, like am I starting to see things that would normally happen? But again, I look at the sky so often and I never see shit like that disappears and appears. But are you looking with the so there is there's like a famously, he famously looks all the time. Right, right,
Starting point is 00:31:38 right, right, right. Sure. But there seems to be like a I don't know if fallacy is the right word here. but the idea that because you think you saw something that was strange, you now see more strange things in the night sky when really it was probably the exact same sky you've always looked at, but you're more hyper focused on finding things. Like confirmation bias. Yeah. Like you're looking for things. I mean, cause like, I'm not going to, I'm not going to tell you what you saw or didn't see, but I will say that, that I appreciate that you're looking for things. I mean, cause like, I'm not going to, I'm not going to tell you what you saw or didn't see, but I will say that, that I appreciate that you're like,
Starting point is 00:32:09 I have to stop because debt 100%, it feels like when you look in the sky and you see things or don't see things or what appears and doesn't appear, that's oftentimes anything from light pollution, clouds that are too high to see at night to any million things that could exist that it's not, it's, I'm gonna say it's not sane to say it must be something that is not just a natural occurrence, because you have no evidence.
Starting point is 00:32:37 You can't prove it. But that's why it drives me nuts is because I don't, I'm trying to figure out what it is so I can have an answer to it. And you're right, like, as somebody who looks at the sky all the time, as your eyes adjust constantly, depending on where you're looking in the sky and light sources around you, you will see stars fade in. When I talk about watching it like appear, it's like I was looking in that direction because I the other star had like vanished and I just it wasn't in the corner of my eye from
Starting point is 00:33:02 adjusting the thing like was very bright and unmissable When it showed up could be anything and I'm not saying it is or isn't anything in particular Sure one that still gets me is the triangle one is the one that to me is like the most weird like this Yes, these light things are fucking bizarre and I don't know what they are and I Like I have on camera one that that disappears below the tree line. I sent it to Alex. Alex has it. I'll send it to you.
Starting point is 00:33:29 But either way, like it doesn't it doesn't give me an answer, right? Doesn't it? It doesn't just because I'm watching these lights disappear and shit doesn't mean it's not potentially drones, which leads me to the research. I did it throughout the week of trying to figure out. Okay, if it's a drone, where are we looking? You know how so I look on the map, I find the FAA drone regulations map. I look at a few of them and over to the east about a mile or two out of from the east of me.
Starting point is 00:33:54 There's like it's free flying like you don't need anything special permissions, but to the West, which is where I'm facing, which is like north of Houston. That's where he's looking, seeing everything. It's a drone flight restricted area. You have to get a special permission through the government to fly. It's all heavily restricted. And that makes sense to me because that's where planes are coming in and out of. Well, is that public record?
Starting point is 00:34:16 You can go look it up. Yeah, absolutely. 100%. I mean, like, can you go look up anybody who's gotten a permit? That I couldn't find, maybe, but I wasn't successful in my in my attempts to the thing that I was trying to find, too, was if they're flying,
Starting point is 00:34:31 I would wonder if it's a restricted drone. So they have to like, let them know. And then maybe there would be like records of drones taking off and flying in the area because it's restricted that I could look at, but I couldn't find anything. But that would be my next thing that I could look at, but I couldn't find anything. But that would be my next like thing that I was trying to get to is like, I need to see like when we're drones allowed to fly through X and X time on this night or, you
Starting point is 00:34:54 know, that kind of thing. But I don't know. I don't know where to even begin for that. I was in the disguise. That's what I'm saying. You need like a night a night master. What do you I don't even know what you call this guy. What I will say about the the lights that showed up last night, the ones on my left and my right while they were flickering and they were flickering the same colors, they were nowhere near as bright as the thing I saw last Monday, like just not even close. They looked about as bright as stars.
Starting point is 00:35:19 The thing on Monday was just absurdly bright and caught like our attention to the point where it looked like a plane initially and it just wasn't. So, you know, that's that's I mean, when I say plane initially, I mean, because there's bright lights. No, I understood. But I'm more taking issue with it. But it wasn't. You don't know that. You don't know it wasn't. If I stared at a plane for five minutes, I it would change. You don't know that it wasn't though.
Starting point is 00:35:45 You can't say it wasn't. That's too definitive. Okay. I'm not going to let you get away with this one. I'll be on your side and let you say you saw something, but I'm not going to say it wasn't period. To have a plane have been where it was in the 20 minutes later, to have plummeted to the depth that it was and then stay there as well for minutes at a time is weird as fuck for a plane. I understand. It's weird as fuck for a plane. I understand it's weird
Starting point is 00:36:06 as fuck for a plane. I'll accept that. I'll accept that but you can't say it wasn't because we are literally surrounded by airports in this city. It's weird. I'll just leave it at that. It also could be angle could be direction.
Starting point is 00:36:20 There's a man that could be a small plane. Nowhere did it move at all. It just stayed in one place, maintained brightness. It's moving at 500 miles an hour. If it's a fucking plane, I would like you to imagine it dim. I get you. I'm not fighting. I understand you can't be definitive, but I'm not going to let you do that. I'm not going to let you do that. I'm not going to let you have this.
Starting point is 00:36:37 I'm saying it's I don't think it's a I don't I would say it isn't a plane. I would say it might still be a drone, but I don't plane seems like so Impossible with like how it just hovered there still as fuck and not moving an inch Here's the thing all of what you just said awesome sure okay, but I'm not gonna let you say it wasn't a play You don't know that is it impossible? Potential is it improbable maybe get the what the hell is the geek busters with the hell of those guys? Mythbusters busters busters I combined geeks busters to get the bullet like you know It's just shake down you shake you down for lunch money
Starting point is 00:37:16 Yeah, get those guys on it have them figure it out. Oh, you know, maybe it's improbable. I don't know but uh, yeah You can't say for sure it wasn't based on his story. Based on his story and his description, I would say it's not my number one guess. Sure. That's and that is totally I got it. I got to ground us. I got to bring us back down. It sounds it sounds a lot more like that's what I'm saying. Like something that's what I'm like. I definitely don't think it's a plane, but drone.
Starting point is 00:37:44 Yeah, they still it's the fact that it's a restricted. It's one of those things where it doesn't. It still doesn't rule it out. Right. Like especially in your area, in your area, like maybe because Texas is fucking big, you know, maybe the vectors for landing are like super. Well, it's an international airport. So I have no idea if that. Yeah. What I mean is like maybe like the approaches are like super international airports. So I have no idea if that means what I mean is like maybe like
Starting point is 00:38:06 the approaches are like super long and straight instead of how it is here in LA where planes kind of like do these big dosy does around the airport because we got the coast on one side and all this stuff and we have like limited space. So like maybe you're looking up the asshole of the runways like maybe you're looking in a way where like, a plane here, and a plane here is like a plane that has been slowly descending straight away from you for four minutes at a time, right? But that would be
Starting point is 00:38:35 weird, because the airport's a 15 minute drive. So why would it be a 20 minute descent flight? No, but that's exactly what I'm saying. It's like, that's the only thing I can think of where I'm like, like, this only scenario I can think of, like, how could a plane ever look like it's hovering in my mind? Well, what I will say is when I see if I see this again, because I think I've seen it multiple times, I took that video in July, and it reminds me of that I'm going to fucking get a lawn chair. And I'm sitting outside. And I said you were done. I thought you said you were going to do this anymore. Well, I take trash out every Monday. So if I see it out there, you're going to seize it. You're going to stop doing it. But not on Mondays. If he sees it outside on Monday, so I'm going to look up.
Starting point is 00:39:12 If he sees it, see it. I'm going to look. The addiction is real. It got him. It got his hooks. This man said, I'm not I'm done. I'm not going to do this anymore. I'm not going to put myself through this. Except on Mondays.
Starting point is 00:39:22 I'm not going out. I'm done going out every hour, like from like fucking 11 to one. I'm just going to go out through this except on Mondays. I'm not going out. I'm done going out every hour, like from like fucking 11 to 1. I'm just going to go out when I have to be outside. And if I see it, I'm going to watch it. I'm not going to do drugs anymore unless I go to clubs, in which case I'm a social drug user. I don't understand the problem. It's only a problem if I'm naked and screaming at my neighbors while I'm sitting outside
Starting point is 00:39:42 in the middle of the street at midnight. Right. Like, obviously, that's the only time otherwise. You know, yeah. So that's my UFO story. Alex, is it? Did it did it help? Did it did it live up to your expectations? I I like it because it's you kind of getting this experience. That's the other part. I hate that it's me.
Starting point is 00:40:01 Yeah, I it's great. It's great that it's you because you're you're like you're like the one who's been dying. But if any one of you were with me, it would have made it so much better. But it's me. And I understand the brand that I've built. Well, Mel was there myself. Mel and Rob were there at least. Like the one you saw in LA. Verify 100 percent.
Starting point is 00:40:20 And Jess was there for the other one at home. Yeah, she saw a bright light. She saw the plane. We watched it and saw bright light. It was a plane. We watched it and she even said that's not a plane. But anyway, so regardless, that's the end. Obviously, it's going to be a bit of a lighter episode. Everybody. We're going to be jumping into some listener stories here in a minute.
Starting point is 00:40:36 We haven't done listener stories in since March. 15 years March. Yeah. Also, I started working on this. What I want to be today's episode, but it's one of those. The rabbit hole went a little deeper than I expected. And as I was putting everything together, I was like, no, we'll be looking at the lost continent of Lemuria.
Starting point is 00:40:53 Very, very, very soon. What I said about the chapters, the partner story to Atlantis. I'm so excited. I can't wait for that. Amir is such I'm so I look back. I was like, we haven't done Lemuria yet. Oh, shit. That feels like one of the ones I've got. Kind of like episode five was insane. And if you thought Atlantis was crazy, Lemuria is going to be insane.
Starting point is 00:41:14 So today we're diving into some reader stories and listener stories, rather, from all across the discord, the subreddit, some really good ones. Boys, do you have your did you open it? Do you have it? Oh, yes. I have it. Somehow I'm somehow I'm logged in as you also, which is odd. That's true. I am also you right now. Bizarre. Clones. Now that oh shit. I'm a clone. I'm a star child. That's what they think. They took you up and were clones of you. And I love to make sure I didn't have an anonymous scum. Alex, you like you mean I said you're missing time. I'm like, no, no, no. Genuine question. Mathis, do you think there's a percentage chance, a nonzero chance that you were abducted? And this is in fact all in your head.
Starting point is 00:42:02 And they are making you go through the motions of your normal life. So the main like the matrix in like, but it's like it's on your head and they are making you go through the motions of your normal life. So the main like the main, yeah. And like, but, but it's like, it's all, it's on your head and you're just on a table somewhere and there's a ls looking you poking me right now. Well, if that's, if that's the case, well, I would say it's like a 0.0, like a 0.5% chance happens. So there's a chance. Does the brain, the brain can do anything? A 0.5, a 0.5. The storyteller in me is, is is saying like if he's having the similar Alien experience in Texas and in California. That's probably
Starting point is 00:42:31 It doesn't make a lot of sense they would go right towards you and then it would just be fine Are they like watching my dreams like are they watching all of this are they monitoring this reality? Do you remember do you remember going to bed that night? Oh? Well, yeah, yeah. Yeah. That might be part of the program, right? Like, yeah, that's true. They might have just put you in the Tibetan. Come on. I beg you.
Starting point is 00:42:52 Let me free. I want to I want to experience this. Come on. Just let him just talk to him about some shit that happened in galactic history and then wipe his memory so that in seven years he can kind of remember what he needs to do. Like, this podcast has gone under. I live in on the street screaming with a tin foil hat on, So that in like seven years he can like kind of remember what he needs to like This podcast has gone under I live in on the street screaming with a tinfoil hat on and I just need something to fucking latch to Wake up. Yeah Self-published Amazon yeah, you know that's a hop. I'll be the self. Do you hear something man? I don't hear anything either No, huh, it's weird weird
Starting point is 00:43:21 Man, I don't hear anything either. No. Huh? It's weird. Weird. Wake up. Oh, what? What? You guys don't hear this. We're your friends. Wake up. You're friends. I just get up. I put my headphones down. I just walk away.
Starting point is 00:43:34 I have to go. I have to go. All right. We're going to start some stories. I'll take the first one because it's UFO related. And we might as well start with the UFO story. It's a fun little UFO story. That's what he said. It's a fun little UFO story. This is from significant neck to a one on Reddit. Great username.
Starting point is 00:43:50 Hey, y'all, I never thought I'd be able to post an experience here, but I finally have some time to jot down a cool potential UFO experience I may have had as one as one most always state. I'm a Jesse. So I'll try and disprove any UFO once I retell it. But honestly, whether it was something or not, it's just cool anyway. So way back in early June, an ex invited me to go to an all time low show at Red Rocks. What does anybody do?
Starting point is 00:44:14 Either. You know, it's a band. It's a band. I think it was a band. I don't know who they are. Red Rocks is a location where a band might perform. Red Rocks is an incredible, incredible amphitheater. It's absolutely cosmic in general, like the fact that this is if that's the that this is the setting of this is is very typical of how it feels to be. OK, interesting. They want to say I was super excited because it was my first time going there
Starting point is 00:44:40 and I had only heard cool things. Well, just like I did. We got there a couple hours early, pregame a bit and then enjoyed the show. The view is absolutely incredible. If you ever get to ever have the chance. But if you've been, you know, you have just a pretty open view of the sky. I personally do not see anything at Red Rocks, but apparently other people did. My story continues on the way back home, though. I was driving back up north to get home around,
Starting point is 00:45:05 I don't know, like 1130, and I had a Celsius since I was a bit tired. What's a Celsius? It's an energy drink, low calorie. Oh, well. All of a sudden, I see these lights in the sky going west to east. There were like five or six lights in a row,
Starting point is 00:45:21 super close together, flying very low and very fast. Like I watched them come into view, had to check traffic real quick, and when I looked back to find them, they were out of vision. It definitely didn't look like any plane or helicopter I've seen, so I was like, that's weird, and kept driving. When I got home, I texted my ex about it, and she said that Alex Gaskarth made a post on Insta asking if anyone had seen the UFOs during the show. A couple days later, an article came out about how Red Rocks had seen an uptick in UFOs lately too. If you can find this reddit post there's a link to it. Now I know it's not much but it was just a cool little thing that happened to me.
Starting point is 00:45:57 Like I said I'm a Jesse so here's my attempt to disprove it. The part of Colorado I was in when I saw it is mostly planes with nothing around so it was super dark. I couldn't see the structure of the craft so it could easily have been a plane or something. As far as I know, there is one regional airport kind of close but I've never seen planes from there in that area. But you could probably persuade me the lights I saw were a private jet or something like that. Doesn't explain how low and fast it was going though. I was also really tired.
Starting point is 00:46:27 So maybe I was just hallucinating to anyway, that's pretty much it. This went on a lot longer than I expected. Feel free to chime in if you know, that wasn't long at all. My question, I guess would have been if they looked low and flying. Were they making any noise? Was there any sound if they were as low as like you saying they were because that could indicate plane right there because you can hear a plane pretty high up there still. Would you have heard it over the sound of the concert? Very true. That's right. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:46:53 But he did see them on the drive home very quickly. Would you have heard it over the sound of the road or the sound of music or that's true? Well, if it was low, if it was low, right. I guess like how low was he was he saying? Either way, it's one of those things that easily could be, like you said, playing potentially could be drones. I mean, it could be a line of drones, especially if they were at a concert. I don't know if there was drone shows or people with drones,
Starting point is 00:47:17 but that could have been if they were low flying fast. But still interesting because it does leave you going, hmm, I don't know. Weird. And we'll move on to the next one. We'll go ahead and Jesse, why don't you take this next one? Familiar paranormal experiences. Brutalist Discord. Brutalist from Discord. I should have put from. Oh, OK. I thought that was like, I was like, what a cool screen name.
Starting point is 00:47:40 Brutalist Discord. I'm like, I want to jump in the Brutalist Discord. That is like a band name. Hey, concrete plants. What's good? Light? Yeah. Hey, I want to share a series of experiences I've had involving my grandfather on my mother's side. The first happened a few years after my grandfather passed away. Around the mid-2000s, my grandmother moved into an assisted living facility, and I was about 17 or 18 at the time. We needed to clear out their house for sale, so I went over with my friend Phil and his girlfriend, Mandy, to get a snowboard I had stored in their basement.
Starting point is 00:48:10 I was I honestly for a brief moment, I thought Grandma snowboarded and I was like, yo, let's go. This fucking shredding some gnar on the fucking mountain. Yeah, she was snitching. She's muddy. Yeah, I have her moment. I was there. Fresh powder.
Starting point is 00:48:26 At the time, I was recovering from a back injury from skateboarding and was taking Tylenol 3 as prescribed for the title three. Dude, what's three? The third title. Is that some secret government Tylenol? It's a limited time Tylenol. Tylenol 3. Damn, I want Tylenol 3 as prescribed for the pain.
Starting point is 00:48:44 It's like where more Subzero doesn't have his mask on in that one I mentioned this because it might explain the strangeness of what happened you'll tie it all three makes you experience I need to Google Tylenol three I lasers and you go really fast on time all right I'm gonna keep going but you let me know about Tylenol. Three Tylenol. Coding number three. It was like a coding coding. It's like a coding painkiller. Super. OK, so that explains where you're going to need a prescription. Yeah. But let's over the counter that soon.
Starting point is 00:49:17 Yeah, come on now. We arrived at the house after dark using the key. We entered and made our way down a long staircase, straight staircase into the basement. The basement had a vintage feel, with wood paneling from the 1950s. There was a light at the top of the stairs, but the switches for the other lights were downstairs so it was pretty dark by the time we reached the bottom. At the bottom, two rooms faced the staircase, separated by a small partition wall with a fire extinguisher hanging on it.
Starting point is 00:49:47 The room on the left was set up like a bed and breakfast, while the other was an unfinished laundry and storage room. At the bottom, I stopped and was briefly looking at the orange fire extinguisher looking at. I'm looking probably looking at. Yeah. Looking at the orange fire extinguisher trying to find out its age with Phil standing on my left. Suddenly, a bright light emerged from the laundry room on my right. It was a soft fog light light, hard to describe. I must have said something like, what the hell was that? And turn to see Phil looking terrified. Without saying a word, we both ran up the stairs and out of the house. Mandy saw us rush out, we left her behind and asked what happened. She's gone. Phil said he saw a face made of smoke and light come from the room and go into my face. Before you ask, no, I don't think he was I. His reaction seemed genuine,
Starting point is 00:50:48 and we stood in the driveway trying to make sense of what we experienced. My grandparent's place was a five hour drive from my house in a different province. So after some courage building and maybe a bit of bravado to man up in front of his girlfriend. Phil and I agreed to go back in, getting the stuff and get out. We ran down, grabbed my snowboard from the B&B room and flew back up, almost tripping over each other as not to be the one in the back. This is not really relevant, but when we got outside, his girlfriend, knowing we were already on edge, hid behind a bush, jumped out as Dick move. It worked. We almost did ourselves and were pissed. No,
Starting point is 00:51:32 I'm with the girl. Yeah, that. Yeah, fuck them. Great. She's a keeper. I only got it up again a couple of times over the years, but Phil never wanted to discuss that night again. When I got back home, I told my mom about the incident. She freaked out and shared that shortly after my grandfather's death, she and a friend went to the basement and her friends usually very quiet dog stood in the same laundry room, barking like crazy. Fast forward a few years later, my now wife and I visited my grandmother in the hospital. She was barely lucid, but said to us, my husband's here to get me on a drive home. We got a call to say that she had passed away. Wow. Lastly, another odd incident happened at our family cottage. My mom and her husband had friends
Starting point is 00:52:19 over from Montreal and we were all sleeping and we heard a scream and the sound of a dish breaking. We rushed to the kitchen to find one of their friends terrified. She said she saw a man sitting in a chair at the table and then proceeded to describe my grandfather. This convinced my mom that Grampy was somehow connected to me. I remain uncertain kind of between belief and skepticism. I've never seen anything else, but these experiences have stayed with me. I like, you know what? It's solid. It's all over the place, but it all tracks back to grandpa.
Starting point is 00:52:52 I think that's good. We got we got smoke monsters. We got lights. I don't know about I don't know about smoke face. Like, I don't know what's up with that. Like that seems like less of a grandpa vibe. If grandpa smokes, he could have like Gandalf his face into some smoke. He was like, yeah It's that I love how it all tracks back to grandpa and it's not like It's trying to hurt us. It's just weird. Yeah, you freaked out by it
Starting point is 00:53:13 I'm here for it the part where the smoke face goes into his face is definitely like Me for the rest of my life if this smoke face was there enough right in my face That would traumatize me for the rest of my life if this smoke face was there enough right in my face Also, it's Canadian. So like who knows what goes on up there. That's true. They're crazy What's really going on up in Canada? Like I don't think they got Tylenol 3 Maybe we don't have Tylenol 3 here in the States. Probably the truth. Yeah, yeah Tylenol 3 dude, that's the weird shit. That, yeah. Tylenol three, dude, that's the weird. Sure. That's that's all. I'm so jealous. That's what happens when you have like slang.
Starting point is 00:53:49 Is that like a name of a product? According to the thing on the shelf, you can buy it. It is a Tylenol number three is what it was called in Tylenol. There was a Tylenol number four and I assume at one and two as well. And maybe it's like the doses are like the amount of codeine to the acetaminophen or whatever it's also in there. Yeah, it's it's it's codeine and it's acetaminophen and it's a mix of the two and the ads literally called. Whoa, gentlemen. Here's the question. There is if you thought Tylenol three was good, have you heard of Tylenol four?
Starting point is 00:54:27 Cause it exists. Tylenol four same thing, except it can same. It contains 30 more milligrams of coding. Yeah, that's what it is. It's gotta be. Yeah. Each one's like more and more. Each one's a little bit more. Yo, I want that Tylenol 12. Oh yeah. Tylenol. Tylenol 420. 420. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Hey, we're geniuses. Great minds think alike. Alex, speaking of drugs, I want you to take this next one. This one is from Pacman850 from Discord. I got a story for y'all. I posted this a few years ago on the subreddit, but wanted to reshare as I've
Starting point is 00:55:01 consulted and had more expert consultations. I know often listener stories tend to get debunked, but I want to just state that this real story that happened. All at this point has become a bit of a joke with my family and friends. It was the most terrifying night of my adult life. Go back to February of 2021 COVID pandemic in the US is nearly hitting its one year mark. I'm a senior in college. The last year has been a painstaking year of online classes, canceled practicums, and more.
Starting point is 00:55:31 I'm completing one of my final things for my grad requirements, and I decide to celebrate by relaxing. So I take my typical amount, oh wait, I mean full blown relaxing. Taking some CBD gummies and watching Pokemon type relaxing. So I take my typical amount that I would at that time and it's going. I'm relaxing. I'm on my computer trying to complete an online training before I fully decompress.
Starting point is 00:55:55 I start to notice that the audio on the training is looping, not literally, but mentally the robotic voice is echoing and playing over and over in my brain. I go, huh? Weird, bro. I'll drink some water, try and make, try to make sure to calm down. As someone with severe anxiety, I just assumed I was having an anxiety attack. I walked down from my office and lay in bed for a while, just listening to some meditations and trying to calm down. My heartbeat, according to my watch, is around 150, which is higher than I get typically when working out.
Starting point is 00:56:28 At this point, I'm not only feeling my heart race, I'm feeling sensations of my blood coursing through my body, I'm feeling it pump through my heart's chambers, and I'm freaking out at this point. I additionally began to see minor hallucinations and hearing things. I stumble out of my bedroom and tell my roommate to call 911 because I'm convinced I'm having a heart attack. My roommate, who doesn't handle crises well, was a champion.
Starting point is 00:56:50 My unique question is, are you sure they were only CBD gummies and had no THC in them? Because this sounds like... Well, we'll see. I don't know how the story's going to end, you know? She calls and I'm hovering over the toilet trying to vomit whatever is causing this. While waiting on EMTsTs to arrive the police show up first. Shout outs to the cops for shining their flashlights directly into my eyes. That was super cool and helpful. Naturally, this only elevates my anxiety as I'm fearful. Not only am I about to die, there are police here.
Starting point is 00:57:20 They didn't help me get up, which was nice, given my nearly six and a half feet, 250 pound body is turned into jello and I can hardly move. EMTs arrive and of all the things, they sit me down in a spinning computer chair. This begins to really kick in the body hallucinations as I roll back a bit and feel like I was slammed back by a vehicle. The visuals are only increasing and it's at this point we accept I need to go to the hospital. The EMTs throw me on a stretcher and as they take me out of our house they drop me about six inches onto the sidewalks with that I have full-blown ego death and comes to terms
Starting point is 00:57:54 with this might be it Jesus Christ bro what is all it was a minor fall while it was a minor fall it was at this point I felt the very essence of my soul begin tearing apart from my body those weren't CVD through my eyes. I can see an ethereal blue slowly pulling away tendon, sinew and more for my body. I'm screaming bloody murder as they load me in the ambulance because I'm thinking that this is it. I'm witnessing my body peeling away from me. Once the ambulance began moving, the inertia throws me back to my body, although I feel like I'm falling in multiple directions. My hallucinations are now kaleidoscopic memories of things from my childhood. Old Legos, cartoons, games, all happening within fractals.
Starting point is 00:58:35 My dead relatives are there as well. And then the most stupid part of the hallucinations in my EMT's face is a swirling blue and green enigma of the Green Hill Zone in Sonic 1. They are taking care of me, but I am just watching a little blue guy collect coins in their irises after what felt like an eternity we arrived to the emergency room. Upon arrival I tell the staff of probably 20 people or more that I'm going to vomit. I'm having seizure-like movements with my arms and fingers and I am screaming for a bag or something. Then in the most harrowing of times, I projectile vomited on every single staff member in a five foot
Starting point is 00:59:11 radius. If somehow you were one of the people treating me, please forgive me. After that horrendous sequence of events, I begin to come down. The staff treats me well and gets me feeling better. We had me take a tox test and the only thing that shows up is marijuana. Turns out on the list me feeling better We had me take a tox test and the only thing that shows up is marijuana turns out on the list on the test They had me take only screenings for like six things. So they labored it as marijuana OD Essentially saying I greened out Giving the low amount I had consumed and the fact of what I was what it was. I refused to believe it For a while we thought it was somehow ayahuasca given the onset time and duration
Starting point is 00:59:46 But it just made no sense to be that. Upon talking with some psycho and I love that name other medical professionals, we are pretty sure it was a for a co DMT that I was essentially drugged with. Again, at this point, it's kind of just an amusing story. But when it occurred, I was fully under the impression that I was going to die. For funsies, I include a few renders of what I saw. I'm not an artist by any means, so this was as close as I could get using a collider. Do you not have those? Yep, I shot you a Lincoln chat. They're on the Discord as well
Starting point is 01:00:16 for anybody who's on the Patreon and in Discord. We got the Gatsos. This is from Pacman850. We got the Gatsos. Yo, I would be absolutely all this checks out. I would be absolutely. All this checks out. I would be the same. If I looked into your irises and saw Sonic, I would be flipping out. Fractals. Insane. I was going to say, seeing the fractals like that, it sounds like it was definitely laced with some sort of hallucinogenic.
Starting point is 01:00:44 CBD is not psychoactive in know exactly having an ego death. It's like kind of nice. Maybe shit Allegedly having DMT good lord and not knowing I can't imagine that would have been the worst that would have been the absolute fucking worse All right. I'm sorry for that happened to you, sir Hopefully you feel better. I'd be curious if this individual has any interest in hallucinogenics ever in his life. That one was just like, it ruined it. Well, it was a flashback.
Starting point is 01:01:13 Maybe, yeah, yeah. Do those really happen? I've heard about that, but I've never, I've never met anybody who's had acid flashbacks or whatever. I heard like, well, you crack your back and it releases it or something Suddenly like you're back. Yeah, I don't know. Yeah, I know
Starting point is 01:01:29 Okay, let's move on to the next one and probably the last one of the day This one is my Indian ghost slash gin murder story from death wish 2022 on reddit. Oh, holy shit. Is this gonna get is this gonna get dark? Uh, we'll see let's find out murder moms crazy Holy shit, is this gonna get is this gonna get dark? Uh, we'll see. Let's find out murder my mom's dead wish crazy My mom's dad side of the family was originally from northern India back in the 50s with the British making a mess of the place And all that there was a lot of crime being committed most of it went unsolved But especially so if the victims were ethnic minorities or discriminated against in one way or another Like yeah, but I can the fifth. Yeah, Yeah, back in the 50s. Yeah, yeah, that ended after that.
Starting point is 01:02:05 The 50s were done. Yeah, yeah, for sure. My grandpa's mom was quite young at the time of the mysterious death, and she passed the story down to him before she died. He passed it to his wife, my grandma, who told my mom, who told me. It's supposed to be a secret,
Starting point is 01:02:18 since something like this carries a lot of shame back home, but over time, my family's begun to see it as something cool to tell at parties. If somebody's murdered, it's shameful if somebody's murdered. I mean, but it sounds like it's like, you know, the game of telephone. I wonder if they how much of it is even like real, like factual. I mean, I don't know. I don't know. Weird. This is the story of my great, great grandfather's death and possible murder,
Starting point is 01:02:40 a.k.a. my mom's dad's mom's dad. Mom's dad's mom's dad's. That's like a beatbox. Oh, yeah. My great great grandfather was very into mysticism and spirituality, but especially jinns. So in South Asian cultures, but especially Sunni Muslim culture, jinns are neutral entities, just like people. They can be good or bad. They're pretty much like human like entities that live for thousands of years and are invisible to the naked eye. Some people say they can show good or bad. They're pretty much human-like entities that live for thousands of years and are invisible to the naked eye.
Starting point is 01:03:08 Some people say they can show themselves to a select few people at will, but mostly choose not to. My great-great-grandpa would spend at least a few hours a day locked up in a spare room in his house talking to what he claimed were jinns. He'd go in with multiple servings of food, more than one man could eat,
Starting point is 01:03:24 and come back with plates emptied. He never let in with multiple servings of food, more than one man could eat, and come back with plates emptied. He never let his wife in and forbade her from ever entering as she would quote, live to regret it. That's very ominous. What? So she decided to do exactly that. One day when he was out running some errands, she decided to take a peek at what was going on in that room. Inside she was met with tens of animals of animal bones, a large talisman collection, and some salt circles. The usual ritualistic setup, you know. She freaked the she freaked the fuck out knocking over some of the stuff he had set up in the room. She knew he was obsessed but not the true not the true extent of his obsession since she'd never been inside the room. She quickly tried to
Starting point is 01:04:01 make it look as it had before she'd made a mess to the place and tried her best to return to her normal routine. A couple hours later her husband returned extremely distraught. The thing is, there was no way for him to have known what had happened. Later on she told people that the Jinns had informed him of the mess in the room and were angry with him so he had returned home quicker than expected in hopes of appeasing them. He ran to the room, locked himself in there, and never came out. Hours after the whole fiasco, she tried to get him to come out for dinner, but was met
Starting point is 01:04:32 with silence. She thought he was upset with her and decided to give him some space. In the morning, he still wasn't out. That's when she decided to get some of her neighbors to break down the door. It took them a while since most doors back home are made of metal. But once they got it open, they regretted ever even trying. They were met with what used to be my great great grandpa's body chopped up like a sushi roll slabs of his corpse strewn about.
Starting point is 01:04:58 She told them what I've told y'all and they brought her and they bought her story that it was the jinns that murdered him since they were angry with him. I think there was something else going on. I have a personal theory that no one else in my family buys. She murdered him likely with an accomplice because of all the chopping is a lot of work and got away with it because A he was not someone the cops cared about because he was an ethnic minority and part of a cast that was heavily discriminated against and B, his wife, who by people standards married down, would never hurt him. And even if she had he probably deserved it.
Starting point is 01:05:34 And lastly see Jin's are pretty common scapegoat for murder in a hyper-religious community back then. It seems all too convenient for her since he she instantly remarried to a man that she'd been seeing when her ex was still alive And she gained ownership of all her exes property Her daughter mom's dad's mom was too young to have testified to what happened and eventually forgot most things about her bio dad So she got older and asked and was told the gin story plus wouldn't she have heard his screams the walls aren't that thick back home And that's where the story holy fucking shit
Starting point is 01:06:07 It's wild that's what I my brain would go to I think nowadays Especially is like sounds like she just murdered him like that's the wildest reader story that I've ever yeah, it's crazy Up there wait. It's it's crazy Yeah, Jesse. That's the wildest readers. I don't even know what to say. Like a Salman Rushdie. Yeah, I'm with I'm with the idea that it was a murder and that the ma the wife probably did it because just based on the idea of like, don't come in this room. And if you do be bad for you, that is the vibe of like, oh, that's not a that's not a healthy household.
Starting point is 01:06:39 Yeah, it's a literary. I imagine her going into the room and then freaking out to the point where she knocked things over. It was like, oh, I'm gonna get out of here and like not a couple of things over serendipitously pissing off the jeans. I'm not going to like be like this lady killed this man because I don't know these people and they're real people. So I don't I don't know. But like also, I have to play the sushi roll.
Starting point is 01:06:59 Chopped up like a sushi. Why would they kill him? Yeah, it's weird. I mean, maybe just to punish him. I don't know. Crazy story. Crazy fucking story. Jins are a really awesome part of Indian culture. And I would love to do an episode all about.
Starting point is 01:07:15 Yeah, there's some even some cool videos of people catching them on camera out there. It's very wild. It's all very cool. I know we've flirted with them. We've talked about them a little bit in the Cryptids of India episode, which is where this which is why they posted this. They said there's the Indian.
Starting point is 01:07:30 Of course. Yeah, it's crazy. But on that, gentlemen, we'll wrap the episode up. A nice little relaxed one for us to like the like Lemuria, baby. It's going to I don't know if it's going to be a multi-party or not right now. It feels like it might. I'm going to try not to have it be a multi-party if I possibly can. It's going to be don't know if it's going to be a multi-part or not right now. It feels like it might. I'm going to try not to have it be a multi-parter if I possibly can.
Starting point is 01:07:46 It's going to be a multi-part. We see you in three weeks for another topic. Well, you're off to patreon.com slash to do a mini-sode for everybody. Thank you guys so much for supporting us. We appreciate you. We love you. Goodbye. Also, I'm married now so I can write episodes again.
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