Chilluminati Podcast - Episode 275 - 1870's Debauchery w/ Crendor

Episode Date: November 24, 2024

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Starting point is 00:00:25 For more tips on recycling, visit toronto.ca slash recycle right. Hello everybody and welcome back to the Jaluminati podcast episode 275 as always I'm one of your hosts Mike Martin joined today by the Alan Saga and Casey of LA, Jesse, Alex and Crendor, even though Crendor is in Chicago, not LA. Hold on. All right. So because it's already night where Crendor is, he's clearly Alan Wake. He's in the dark place. You give Crendor the, the ability to write like fascinating crime fiction. You think he could do it? I always said I'm like Alan Wake. Yeah, it's done. I really have.
Starting point is 00:01:29 And just like Alan Wake, he can't write his way out of the dark place. He's fucked in there. Just like Alan Wake, he loves chicken kabobs. Mm hmm. Love chicken kabobs. Fasciani, I think, is Casey, for sure. I was going that way, too. He's hard boiled. Yeah, he'd play a good hard. He's basically Max Payne.
Starting point is 00:01:48 The thought occurred to me. Did they dub the entire game just because Sam Lake has a thick Swedish accent? I'm not sure but signs pointy yes. Right and I'm Saga and that I definitely have multiple red string boards in my home And and a really comfy sweater every time you figure it out. You just say the most obvious thing Right, but then I go and talk to the deer head and it's like four more Like what do you want for me dear? All right, I don't got me figured everything out. That's for the Alan Wake 2 fans out there.
Starting point is 00:02:25 Other than that, you have no idea what we're talking about. Yeah, I've never played Alan Wake in my life. The game has been out for one entire year. Is that right? Yes. How fucked up is that? It's called time dude, as you know quantum mechanics. Yeah, it feels like it came out literally one month ago. I know the last DLC came out literally one month ago. I, I, that's cause the last DLC came out literally one month ago. So I feel like for some reason, everybody was talking about Alan Wake just one month ago and I can't figure out why today's episode is about. Yeah. If you want to know more, head to patreon.com slash where I will fucking rattle the fucking windows to
Starting point is 00:03:00 find out where the fuck I was hearing about Alan Wake one month ago. It is vexing me me It is not a lake. It is an ocean Alan Wake is Here I'm trying to do his like fucking weird way of reading. Yeah, you're trying to do it I know you're trying to do a thing. Yeah, I can't I can't like, you know, pretty good I can't do that off the dome. No, it's it's unique way. I don't know what he's supposed to sound like. My favorite. So for those of you who have never played Alan Wake, it's a very like fourth wall breaking kind of meta game, but also it has some really great, you know, story and like mystery. And anyway, the most recent expansion had one of my favorite things in the world. Basically, the subtext, I'm not going to spoil what the expansion is, but the subtext of what the expansion is, is literally a look at AI in art.
Starting point is 00:03:50 Yes. Yeah. And one of the best things about it is that there are two characters. One is like, I want to find what art is. What is art? How does art work? What qualifies as art? And there's, in fact, in the game, a whiteboard that has a bunch of different possibilities for what art could be. It's very funny. And then another character is like, what if we, because Alan Wake is a writer, what if we just get a bunch of robots, air quotes, to write Alan Wake's art style to mimic him? Basically just AI training. Yeah, literally feeding it. And the best part is when you find the drafts of the AI training,
Starting point is 00:04:27 they have all these keywords they want to use and the keywords are like, uh, you know, dark, wet, like that could, and my favorite ones are the ones like the knife, darkly darkened in a dark world as it stabbed forth into the darkness, but only through darkly lit darkness did the dark it's so funny. It's amazing and they have all these like Failed versions and it's just exactly what you would think would be love it big fan. Yeah, I mean Phenomenal game go play it. It's actually a Chaluminati fan. Go fucking play Alan Wake. Go play Control. Control is very Chiluminati coded. Control is the Chiluminati game
Starting point is 00:05:07 Yeah, if you if you are like a hard gamer and you're ready to like go do like a fucking big-ass game That is like the exact same itch go for that one. Being a hard gamer sounds like you're gonna do like intense drugs Like yeah, I'm kind of a hard gamer dude. Sometimes. The rough streets back alley gaming. Dude have you ever played a fucking shmup dog? Fucks your shit up. I played a shmup so hard. I went fucking cross-eyed, bro That's that's hard gaming. Yeah, I'm gaming too hard man Forgot about my kids. I still have a YouTube channel called hard gaming hard. It has to be there has to be hard game I'm I always game hard. It's going to be about difficult games or big booby games. I must stress, I must stress you are wrong on all
Starting point is 00:05:51 accounts. Wow. It is a YouTube channel with no videos at all except the logo is in Minecraft. That's hard. That's pretty hard, dude. That's exclusive, dude. That's like the black card of channels right there Disappointing to me. I'm sorry also welcome back to the show crendor for your oh god third or fourth Appearance Yeah, yeah back. Hey. Thank you very much It's good to be back love this show great program all I said This is one of my favorite programs on the internet. You've never listened to an episode. You've never, not even your own. Have you?
Starting point is 00:06:28 Um, I've listened to bits and pieces of episodes. That you were in probably. Yeah. Yeah. Well, I'd say 80% were the ones I was in. Just seeing how it sounded. There were like one or two. I would be like, ah. How did it go? How did it sound? How did you feel? Oh, I don't remember. Oh, okay. Yeah, that sounds right. or two I would be like ah. How did it go? How did it sound? How did you feel about it? Oh, I don't remember.
Starting point is 00:06:46 Oh, okay. Yeah, that sounds right. You know, you can hear all of us live December 20th in Chicago. However, that show is sold out. Get your tickets one month ago, suckers. Yeah, it's sold out in three weeks. Is that thing sold out? People are messaging me, asking me if there's more tickets somehow there are not. I am so, so sorry.
Starting point is 00:07:07 We're at capacity. We'll be moving up the big arena soon. Oh, Taylor Swift open for us. Yeah. Nice. Actually that would, that'd be a great show. All of Taylor screaming fans. And then we came on the stage and we get to watch them empty out the arena.
Starting point is 00:07:25 You guys would be done. screaming fans and then we come on the stage and we get to watch them empty out the arena. It's just empty. We get to watch it happen. You guys would be done. Can you tell me there's no cross between the two audiences? Oh, there's going to be like three people in the front row that are left after the show ends that are like, yeah. And you know what? We'll do it for them. I was going to say, but let's be honest for a Taylor Swift concert, front row seats like
Starting point is 00:07:43 that probably would make a ton of money. Oh no, they filter from way in the back and come down left. Oh, yeah audience would move forward No, we got to get we got to get saxophone playing Sasquatch at some point Can I tell you someone reached out to me and said? Those dudes were looking to get in touch and I said, please let me touch were looking to get in touch. And I said, please let them touch. Yes, the band, the band are trying to reach out to us. That's what I heard. That's what was sent to me. So if you know them, we, I would love to do something with them. We are on Instagram. Like let them know we are on Instagram. That is the
Starting point is 00:08:23 account they use just could message us there let them know we are on Instagram. That is the account they use. Just message us there. We are, we are there. We are on there. I will. I, I, I've, yeah, I've not gotten, or, or email, chilluminatipod.gmail.com as well. Like there is no better duo in town than the, the wham bam. Thank you, ma'am slam of bicycle. The band opening for the chilluminati podcast. Just imagine. Yeah. If we, if this would have been connected earlier, think of the show that would have been Cox and Crandor followed by Bicycle, followed by Chiluminati.
Starting point is 00:08:54 That would have been the greatest show ever in the history of shows. Imagine we just do the episode and then at the end we like give the answer to the mystery and then it's like, thank you, Bicycle the Band. And then they just play for like three hours The city shuts us down and we all go to jail. I don't want to go to jails Chicago jails probably scary
Starting point is 00:09:13 Yeah, you don't want to go there. I don't want to go to Chicago jail. I don't want to go We're gonna do a jail time. We should do Norwegian jail time. Yeah Some hard trouble in Norway some of the apartments you pay 3,000 a month for in New York. Yeah, I'd be excited about that to be honest. Norwegian jail time is like Los Angeles apartment living. It kinda is. It kinda is. You actually get a lawn in Norwegian prison though instead.
Starting point is 00:09:35 So it's actually a little nicer than the apartments in LA. Welcome to the Crendor episode everybody. Where you just, it's a loose. So last episode, if you remember, we talked about the carnal reign of 1876 where meat fell. The last Crendor episode. The Crendor episode, that's right.
Starting point is 00:09:53 I remember. But the whole plan was to go through that entire newspaper because there was some insane shit in there from what I remember. So that's what we're gonna do today. We're gonna finish off where a debauched woman is labeled insane from incompetent medical care So that's what we're gonna do today. We're gonna finish off where a debauched woman is Labeled insane from incompetent medical care and a few other things like paying with coffins a life a day in the life of
Starting point is 00:10:16 1876 because I can't I also don't remember what else is in there But here's your link to the article we're gonna be using today. So today is a day in the life of What was it like on Tuesday, March 21st, 1876 in Massachusetts? What was going on in that time? We know Carnal Rain happened in Kentucky, but what other things were happening around the country at that time? And we're going to read and check out what those things fucking were. Okay, unless you your sweet soul for being able to read any of this. Can you imagine if they had to talk back then? What do you think? Wait, what what are you imagining that? Imagine the carnival or like they're just walk outside like guys,
Starting point is 00:10:54 you will not believe this. It is raining meat. It is just look at this. It is all over my hands. It is all of guys. Comment below if you just cannot believe what is going on right now. I'm going to I'm going to update this tomorrow. You're going to see.
Starting point is 00:11:07 They collect that shit in a slurpee cup and cook it. No, they would be, it would be like the raining meat challenge of like, okay, I'm going to do it. I'm going to eat it. I'm going to eat it. Oh, and then they eat it. Eat that meat. And then they died like two days later because they shouldn't have eaten the meat.
Starting point is 00:11:21 Yeah, it's a big mistake. It's March 21st. It's 1876 here in the great United States of America. And you might be looking for a job at this time. Let's look at what the captain's report of this time says from these journalists about what some of the jobs might be like for some time past European steam ships, uh, carrying, uh, arriving at this port have failed to make reports of their casualties at sea to the press
Starting point is 00:11:46 under the belief that their publicity is prejudicial to travel. The steamship Lessing of the Hamburg lines, which left Hamburg on the first of the month and only arrived here on the 19th, lost three lifeboats, but failed to make any mention of the same to the press. So, uh, so far, uh, it sounds like it's deadly and they refuse to talk about how many people die. Each one, uh, last bit says another line never mentions hurricanes or icebergs in its report. The captains of these vessels are not to be held responsible for these oversights
Starting point is 00:12:22 as they are instructed by their different companies to make no mention of the same to the press. This is crazy because I used to read that comic series, League of Extraordinary Gentlemen by Alan Moore. And the whole thing was that he would like put ads in like these like sort of like penny dreadfuls and all these papers of the time to like shine the light like almost like GTA does on like how society is today right and this is like almost this almost reads like like satire like it almost is like almost like too perfect of an analog for the type of nonsense that goes on today but it's true that's what was happening back then and I love that they're like
Starting point is 00:13:04 well don't hold the captains accountable. Their companies told them, don't tell the press how many people die all the time on this job because nobody's coming to take the jobs because so many people keep dying. It's actually like a pretty legit viewpoint, I guess. Yeah, I guess. But I kind of would want, you know,
Starting point is 00:13:20 if I'm about to go take a job on a steamboat, I want to know how often people are dying and not being reported. I mean, that's why there's regulatory bodies now. Now. Yeah. Not now. Not what happened frequently. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:13:32 For now. For now. The next one turn about is fair play. On the 27th of February, a young man named Frederick Duvall of no, a number 87. I believe that was Ferdinand Duval that you're right it's Ferdinand you're like thank you very much he was there um Cranador is an immortal dude he's an eternal those my friend Ferdinand I
Starting point is 00:13:56 don't know who the hell Frederick is earned that spot Cranador is like the eighth eternal how many eternals are there? Alex lots and lots. You don't even want to open this door. Trust me. You know, just keep the door shut. I have a lot of history with the internals and the Celestials and we can spend all day talking about how cool Jack Kirby is, but no one's ever going to listen to me anyway.
Starting point is 00:14:17 So what's the point? What's the point? Yeah. I miss you. It's valid. Valid. The man, the man says black eager Baltic and it's great. Listen, like what's the point? Well, I don't I try to avoid this happening. I tried to avoid this wound
Starting point is 00:14:32 No, you didn't these wounds, please these wounds the wounds of enjoying a bad character is your own doing You've never read a single I saw him blow up his own head in multiversive madness. And that's all I need to know. That's how most people saw him too. His first real true appearance was blowing his own head up, dude. Black Garb Baltigan sucks. Sucks.
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Starting point is 00:16:32 On the 27th of February, a young man named Ferdinand Duval of 87 Varick Street, because just back then, fuck it, just tell everybody where somebody lived, was arrested. How are they going to get there? No one's gonna Like was arrested on complaint of Emmanuel H Schlomo vits of one two three four Slum of it from one two three four Broadway Street Are you kidding me? That's a fucking Dalek, bro Call Dr. Who that's fake
Starting point is 00:17:10 We found the Cybermen The real name real address is that's incredible the meat rain was a fucking alien thing. Let's get out of here We found the villain Emmanuel H. Shlomovitz of number one two three four Broadway on Charge of obtaining goods under false pretenses the charge was that after purchasing some goods mr Duvall gave a check for $90 on the people's bank in another name that of Gustave de la Rie Ferdinand Duvall used a fake name on the check of Gustave de Laurier. Ferdinand Duval used a fake name on the check of Gustave de Laurier. Mr. Duval was incarcerated on the charge for four days during which four examinations were held at the request of the complainant. And finally, Judge Morgan discharged Mr. Duval on the ground that no false
Starting point is 00:17:58 pretenses existed at the time of the purchase of the goods, the check being perfectly sound and good as was reported in the Herald at the time of the purchase of the goods, the check being perfectly sound and good, as was reported in the Herald at the time. On Saturday, Mr. Duvall's counsel, Joseph H. Steiner, obtained a warrant from Judge McAdam of the Marine Court for Shlomovitz's arrest on a charge of false imprisonment and assault. The warrant was executed yesterday by Deputy Sheriff Nash, and Shlomovitz was lodged in Ludlow Street Jail in a default of $3,000 bail. The damages are laid at $5,000. This man just reversed Uno this guy? Yeah he did, yep that's exactly what he did. They said more like false neighborhood and disguise. By the way the
Starting point is 00:18:42 amount of money is crazy compared to you see90. You're like, oh yeah, whatever. But like, that's the equivalent of $2,168. I was going to say, what's the $5,000 equivalent to? I'm curious, because that's what they said the damages were of him being falsely imprisoned for four days. It is $120,000. Wow. Holy shit.
Starting point is 00:19:02 Holy fucking Jesus. That's insane. Wait, I don't. So the, so the original charge was you obtained goods under false pretense. Yeah. But after purchasing some goods with a check that had in
Starting point is 00:19:16 another, I don't understand what in another name in this case means that he tried to pretend to be the other guy or do you just write a check under a different name? Well, no, I think, so I think what Duvall did was signed the check as Gustave DeLaurier, like a fake name on the check for the $90. Which is neither of their names.
Starting point is 00:19:36 He just made it up a name. But that didn't happen, right? Then, yeah, then the judge said that didn't happen. That doesn't seem like that was the case. And then the other guy just made up a ridiculous. Okay. Yeah. I don't, I don't know why that's all. Well, no, we just, I'm not sure.
Starting point is 00:19:51 I understand. Travel unless Crandoor was also there at the time Crandoor. Do you know what happened? I do, but I forgot. Ferdinand dude. Yeah. It was a long time. He was in on it. Are you kidding me?
Starting point is 00:20:03 One, two, three, four Broadway Street is just too ridiculous. A manual age Shlomovitz of one two three four Broadway. Krendor's name back then was in fact Gustave DeLurier. That's how he got around. It's like from like an interview with the vampire kind of like name. This is exactly the right time. Yeah, that's who Krendor is. The names are just a little too flowery for my taste.
Starting point is 00:20:26 Yeah. I can't believe these are real people. The 1800s were crazy, dude. I love the 1800s. Like it just it was just chaos with like the pretense of law. Everyone was sick. Nobody had any vitamins. The clothes were really heavy.
Starting point is 00:20:39 Everybody was just. Working in prison for random shit. Yeah. Crazy part, it wasn't even that long ago. Yeah, I know. It feels like it's forever. But it wasn't. It's really not.
Starting point is 00:20:48 I didn't even know what germs were. They were just like, wash your hands. What if we just like, dance the spell on them, and they'll get rid of it. You'll get that weird black shit on you again, or whatever that shit is. Yeah, they wear the plague mask. They're like, don't smell.
Starting point is 00:21:00 I mean, I guess if you're smelling some things, it can make you sick. But they were just like, the smells, they're going to kill you. Although, there but they're just like the smells they're gonna kill you I don't know. There's some people. I probably also think that yeah, they're still people today. I think that's exactly how it works All right. Next up. We got the schnapper mystery This is exciting. I like the word mystery the authorities have been in a quandary as to what course to pursue with reference to the disposition of
Starting point is 00:21:27 a quandary as to what course to pursue with reference to the disposition of Charles Schnoffer, the wealthy grocer who has been detained in Raymond Street Jail, Brooklyn for two weeks, charged with forgery and suspected of murdering his wife. Wait, so wait, he's not in jail because people think he murdered his wife? He's just in jail for another reason and they also think he may have murdered his wife? And suspected of. It says says like those are the two Reasons pretty much he's like I might have murdered his wife. It's got like fake the check, but he also did murder Probably murdered his wife. Probably we can't get him on it The complaint in the case is a lawyer who was counsel for the missing woman in a suit for divorce
Starting point is 00:22:01 Instituted it about a year ago. He based his complaint upon information and belief. The information and belief were in quotes. Certain deeds for the transfer of property bearing an alleged fraudulent signature of Mrs. Schnapper were the groundwork of the forgery theory, but there has not been a part of this of evidence unearthed by the police to indicate that the woman has been murdered all that can be said is That her friends have not seen her since July June of last last June and they do not know where she is
Starting point is 00:22:34 yesterday the prisoner was arraigned before Justice Walsh and Pleaded not guilty waving examination to go before the grand jury Those who have known the parties for a long time express the opinion that Mrs. Schnopper will come to the surface before long. So did he murder his wife or did she just run away and then... That's the thing that's so crazy about this time period is like, you can just hide and people would be like, we don't know. We don't know where he is. We have no idea where he is. Like Alex is gone. He's just gone. He might be dead. We don't know It's been like the Salem witch trials where they're just like yeah, they're like a witch like you prove it
Starting point is 00:23:10 They're like, I mean you just know. Yeah, no, no, we feel the vibes. She vibes off Definitely which this next little piece is this called paid with coffins Katherine Keating of Willow Street Hoboken brought a suit against undertaker mark of Willow Street, Haboken, brought a suit against Undertaker Marcus of the same place before Justice Monk for the sum of $28 for board furnished him by her. The justice decided in favor and yesterday an attachment was issued against the goods and chattels of the defendant and placed in the hands of
Starting point is 00:23:45 Constable Lewis. I already see where this is going. This is so dumb. The goods captured by the said by the said Constable consisted of nine coffins and an undertaker's wagon. The articles of death will be sold next Saturday unless previously redeemed. He was like, he was more morcus. The undertaker was like what do you want for me? I only have Usually I guess we're taking your coffins and we're gonna fucking auction them off. All right that leads us to the main article This is a huge title. It's called revolting revelations cruelty and vice practiced in the Massachusetts Almhouse insane women debauched officials elope with female inmates and desert their families
Starting point is 00:24:33 What rightful record of death caused by loathsome confinement? This is a fucking like a chaotic intro to this. This is Boston, March 20th, 1876. It seems almost incredible in this enlightened age and in the, and which I love they'd considered 1876, the enlightened age. Oh yeah. And in the boasted philanthropic and moral atmosphere of Massachusetts, that there should be permitted such a systemic series of cruelties, vices, and crimes as have recently been developed in connection with the management of the Almhaus in Tewksbury. I know Tewksbury, nice place.
Starting point is 00:25:11 Tewksbury nowadays anyway. I don't know what it was like in 1876. I mean, it was probably- Yeah, how was it? Probably worse. Well, it was, you know, I mean, it was a different time. Number one. Right, of course, of course.
Starting point is 00:25:23 What would you, if you were like, it was a regular night in 1876, what would you be going? What do you go to Tewksbury for? Cranor, what do you mean? It's a very philanthropic pop topic and moral atmosphere. So, you know, I mean, just just imagine what you can do there in that type of atmosphere.
Starting point is 00:25:41 Be nice to like go reading there. Yeah, that'd be a pretty nice place to read. Unless they were like, you know, doing all the stuff we've read in all these articles. I don't know, it sounds like a pretty good place. You know, it sounds nice. Yeah. The exposures have been secured mainly through the efforts
Starting point is 00:25:58 of Frank B. Sanborn, Chairman of the Board of State Charities. And the startling results of the investigation were made known by Mr. Sanborn, chairman of the board of state charities, and the startling results of the investigation were made known by Mr. Sanborn today in an address which he delivered before an examining committee of the legislature, the institution and its inmates. Before proceeding to give the gist of Mr. Sanborn's account of the sickening and revolting circumstances connected with its administration, I will explain that the institution is the largest of its kind in New England, containing an average upward of 1,000 inmates. Holy shit! Yes, fuck a lot of people. Many of these are
Starting point is 00:26:35 insane and very many more, afflicted with various diseases in various stages, and so reckless, indifferent, and incompetent has been the management during these last few years that the assured death of an in and incompetent has been the management during these last few years that the assured death of an inmate upon entering has been the rule rather than the exception. The average of deaths was one in nine. Oh my god! Jesus. Yeah, or 325 of the 2,849 who were admitted to the institution and this in the absence of any
Starting point is 00:27:05 Contagious diseases. This is this wasn't like a disease nobody got sick. This is just straight-up deaths. Yes, mr Sanborn in his argument charged the imprisonment of insane women for refusing to work and the allegation was admitted by the officers in charge of the institution quote the shocking Circumst circumstances were detailed to your committee until you voted to hear no more of them. It is certain that live women were so imprisoned in the autumn of 1874, two of them for more than eight weeks that they were allowed neither chair,
Starting point is 00:27:39 nor table, nor bed in the daytime that they were. So they were imprisoned, yeah, they were in prison for eight weeks alive with no nothing. There's like, it sounds like solitary confinement to a degree. Uh, in a weird way. It sounds like that, uh, that game, the horribly outlast. Sounds like out. Yes, it does. Uh, continues saying weighted upon holy by men that their cells were underground,
Starting point is 00:28:03 dark and unwholesome, that their food was bread and water, that three inspectors of the Alm House were individually and collectively ignorant of this abuse for at least nine weeks, that the bylaws of the Alm's house were both neglected and violated in this particular, and that two of the four women who remained at Tewksbury after this imprisonment died within six months from their release out of these cells. Dude. Yeah, that's fucking heinous. To all this, no denial was offered, but it was testified in defense that the superintendent, who alone has authority to imprison inmates, was also ignorant of what was
Starting point is 00:28:41 going on. That the physician who introduced the practice did so Medicinally and with good intentions and that one of the five women who had somehow recovered her sanity perhaps in her in her dungeon So they're like well it worked It worked. You know what like one a couple times So let's just keep throwing them in there and just lose testified that one of the five women got saying again Yes, whatever the fucking means. Yeah Yeah, even if we're like, yeah, they're saying and then crazy and that's it and what's 20% success rate. How does that track? Exactly. It doesn't exactly it also appeared that although the board of charities released these women on the 8th of December
Starting point is 00:29:21 1874 Informally insured their imprisonment by a vote communicated to the inspectors early in January 1875, these inspectors did not discharge or punish the culpable physicians, but received from him on the 25th of March 1875 a long written defense of his course, signed both by the physician and the superintendent and allowed him to resign about the 1st of May without putting on record so much as a vote of censure concerning him. So like even today they were like, he just got to resign before anything bad happened to him.
Starting point is 00:29:52 There was no punishment. He just like, he's like, you know what? I'm done. That never happens today. Never ever. How much money did the president of Activision get when he finally left too much More money than I will ever see in my life more money than any any any of us all four of us We'll see in our life combined. Yeah combined Ford lifetimes combined from all that it has appeared It would seem that the superintendent at least one of the inspectors do not yet see much harm in what was done
Starting point is 00:30:26 Nor did they know until these hearings disclose the fact that two of the women so imprisoned for the benefit of their health had died More than nine months ago The terrible mortality the facts alleged concerning the excessive mortality during May and June have all proved so far as the number of deaths and the circumstances attending these deaths are concerned. It was attempted by the defense to show that neither the superintendent's daughter, who had actual charge of the hospital where these poor women died, nor anyone else was responsible for their death, which was described by several of the persons truly responsible, namely the assistant physician, her father, the superintendent and the chairman
Starting point is 00:31:09 of the board of inspectors as quote natural accidental or providential. Like it was supposed to happen by the will of God. Yeah. God will. Yes, that's exactly. Yeah. Thank you. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:31:23 Yeah, of course. Yeah, that's all. They're like, Hey, it wasn't our fault. our fault This was just and if it was our fault accidents and that'll never happen ever again That's good It did not clearly appear that either of these witnesses knew at the time that the mortality was excessive or ever took any Precautions about it such as would naturally have occurred to good physicians or well-informed officials No consulting physician was called in, no post-mortem examination or inquest was held, and such records of the cases and prescriptions as once existed were destroyed, either thoughtlessly or purposefully.
Starting point is 00:31:57 Of course they were. None of the witnesses for the defense were willing to swear that they knew what the natural death rate among the chronic insane is. This is just, it's just, man, nothing has fucking changed. Like literally nothing has changed. They destroyed the evidence and brought them to court and they're just like, I don't know, no evidence. What are you going to do? We got nothing. You can't do anything to us. It's, it's a little bit,
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Starting point is 00:32:56 It has also been testified to with great clearness that the assistant physician at Tewkesbury, Miss Marsh, had not sufficient experience to qualify her for the care of insane patients, nor such general attainments in her profession as would have secured her appointment as assistant physician at the Worcester Lunatic Hospital or elsewhere if the standard of qualification was a high one. She was not qualified to work at the Lunatic Hospital. In 1876, She was not qualified to work at the lunatic hospital. In 1876, let's be real, they didn't know it at the time to be fair, but no one there was qualified to be working and attending these people in any possible way. Dr. Allen, in his testimony, left the impression, which you gentlemen will find to be correct, that unless her father had been superintendent, she never would have appointed and never would have been allowed the opportunity which last spring proved to be so fatal to her patients.
Starting point is 00:33:51 Doctor. Wait, so this is like a nepo hire. Was that a quote that you just read? Nothing here I read is quoted. This is just sassy. This is Dr. Allen. This is just the, yeah, no, this is just the, the member, if you remember, I mean, it's been a long time, but he was equally a sassy in the carnal rain shit to if it was the same person I'm not sure he's like gents The fellas know what I'm talking about when I say this bitch was crazy Yeah Yeah, I'll read that again dr. Allen in his testimony left the impression which you gentlemen will find to be correct that unless her father had been a superintendent
Starting point is 00:34:27 She never would have appointed and never would have been allowed the opportunity Which last spring proved to be so fatal to her patients. What an ancient and archaic mindset that is very Dr. Nichols testified positively to his opinion that these patients were quote-unquote Dosed too much and miss Marsh herself testifies that on the 12th of July last The not dr. Nichols told her she had given too much medicine. I wonder what the medicine was What the hell is it was probably cocaine straight cocaine red shit? Yeah. Yeah, probably
Starting point is 00:35:04 Might been like ketchup or something. Ketchup? It's like one of two things. You're like ketchup or like just some insane shit that's banned today. Maybe it's like ketchup and mercury. Yeah, in the 1800s, ketchup was made with cocaine. That's fair. No, that's true. That's very true.
Starting point is 00:35:18 The Heinz formula originally. And instead of vinegar, cocaine. And it has to be called one of those old tiny names to like dr Schuylenbach ins old timey syrup and you're like, oh, this is gotta be good and it's like fries Tomato serum for catching up your spirit. It's dr. DeLore a dude up your spirit it's dr. de laurier dude without a doubt says it's got methamphetamines but those gotta work crisp European potato wedges whole-grain mustard with full bullet chunks she was so little acquainted with the past
Starting point is 00:36:03 condition of her patients that she did not know that two of these 14 women who died under her care in five weeks were victims of outrageous imprisonment six months before that. These two were Julia Cobain, who died of diarrhea and Catherine Walsh, who died of consumption, which is like a horrible like lung like cough In the movies when someone starts coughing up blood they're like I've got a spot of a consumption Isn't it tuberculosis?
Starting point is 00:36:32 Is consumption tuberculosis? That makes sense. I think so. But look it up. Google it. No dude it's the consumption. Consumption. I've come down with a bit of a consumption. Yeah it's TB tuberculosis. That's exactly correct. Oh I just down with a bit of a consumption. Yeah, it's TB, tuberculosis. That's exactly correct.
Starting point is 00:36:47 Red Dead Redemption 2. Damn. I leave you to judge whether their death was hastened by this imprisonment, which was itself- I'm pretty sure death by diarrhea is a hastened death. Yeah. That's gotta be the worst way to go.
Starting point is 00:37:03 That's just dysentery. You just shit yourself until you shit your own intestines out It's like liquefied already. You just why you gotta why you gotta describe it? Why you got a dreaming painful death? It's not pleasant. It's just what I ate my chicken kebabs already Thank God Their death was hastened by this imprisonment, which was itself defended by Ms. Marsh, superior physician. Dr. Whitaker, in a paper dated March 25th, 1875, and read at one of your hearings, the whole testimony goes to show that neither Dr. Whitaker nor Ms. Marsh had any competent
Starting point is 00:37:39 acquaintance with insanity as affecting the physical health and did not understand what it is that Increases or diminishes the mortality of the insane basically these fuckers don't know what they're doing period at least it's equal. Yeah It is fully proved that there has been no such excessive mortality before or since as during miss Marsh's control of the sick insane and that for four months after the 8th of June last fewer mortality before or since as during Ms. Marsh's control of the sick and sane and that for four months after the 8th of June, last few were last few were insane. Women died at Tewkesbury then in the five weeks that Ms. Marsh had charge of the hospital.
Starting point is 00:38:16 These facts are undisputed with better treatment and under a more skillful physician, fewer women would have died. It's still crazy. It's like under her care, so would have died. That's still crazy that it's like under her care so many women died, but since that time fewer women have died. Yeah, we can just measure the numbers. Way less women have died. Not nearly as many women died. Like it was 14, now it's down to 8, which is substantially better. They also like say the, they also say the same thing, like three times in a row in this article.
Starting point is 00:38:49 For those of you who are curious, cause I was very curious about Charles Schnapper and, uh, what happened with that story. I went online and did a deep dive. I tried to find everything I could about Charles Schnapper. Let me tell you, nothing exists. No, there is no followup. everything I could about Charles Schnapper. Let me tell you, nothing exists. Nothing. Yeah? Wow. There is no follow-up. There is, there will never be a follow-up
Starting point is 00:39:09 as far as I can tell. This is the case of a missing woman, and I guess they just didn't care. The friends were like, but the way they, at the end of the article where they're like, their friends say, cause they know her, she'll turn up eventually. It sounds like she just runs off all the time.
Starting point is 00:39:24 How often do people disappear in the 1800s is the question. I imagine frequently if no one cares. Although, I mean, admittedly, think back. I saw on Reddit the other day, and I thought this is really interesting. Some guy posted, hey, question for people who were from the 80s and 90s. Could you really just leave the house and like go out as a kid? And all the comments confirm what is true. Yeah. Like your parents said, be home before dark. And that was it. I'm just permission at 11 years old to be able to ride my bike around the block and just go. And then I could just go to ride with my friends. Cause you know, we all kind
Starting point is 00:40:01 of went to the same school and like I walked home neighborhood. I knew by the back of my hand, by the time I was like, 12, 13 years old, and it was just what we did. Yeah, I would, I would frequently bike two towns over to go to the arcade slash pizza place all the time. That's two towns over. And my parents had no clue. The one time they found out they were like, where really, where were you? I was like, I was at the arcade eating a pizza, playing games. They're like, no, are you on drugs?
Starting point is 00:40:27 Where were you? Like they couldn't believe that's what I was doing during my free time when I was just not around them. I was like, our town is boring. Yeah, same. Like I remember I get a permission to walk to school with my friends, you know, without my mom there, like 13 years old, or whatever.
Starting point is 00:40:44 No, I would have been a younger than that. It would have been like, probably like the same time I could bike. And just being like, my friends would walk by every morning and wait for me. And just like, they would just go, no adults. You just walk. And it wasn't like a super short walk or anything, but yeah.
Starting point is 00:40:57 I remember when I lived in New York, there was a big hubbub about the fact that a bunch of people were letting their kids go to school on the subway alone. And they were like, we did that. And everyone else we know had did that. So why is it a big issue now? I think now they've cracked down on it, but it was like the early 2000s. They were just like, what, why are you mad? He's 13. He can go to school. They're like, don't you care that kid kidnapped?
Starting point is 00:41:21 She's like, what are you talking about? Yeah, it's weird. And then meanwhile, in Japan, like six year olds are like taking the trains by themselves. Yeah. No problemo. That's crazy. Yeah. That's yeah. I remember that's been like that for a while too. Yeah. I mean, there's just, it's a different vibe. And I think again, it goes back to the fact that everyone's like scared, even though consistently, statistically crime has been decreased year over year because again, Again, it goes back to the fact that everyone's like scared, even though consistently, statistically,
Starting point is 00:41:45 crime has decreased year over year. Because again, like Krendall was saying with mobile phones, it's because you see more of it. And so you're more like, it's going to happen to me. Yeah. Which it's all psychology. Which I've experienced so viscerally, people just afraid because they've seen it. Okay.
Starting point is 00:42:03 Let's continue with where we we left off vice and crime Oh nice. I love that another of the charges made by mr. Sanborn and not disproved related to the alleged criminal practices of Night watch watchman read with inmate named Brink. I fucking read the in named named Brink That's fucking sick. Mr. Sanborn said I hardly think gentlemen that there was only All of all all of you hardly think gentlemen that there was one of you heard Mr. writing 10 very convincing statement of the evidence against read or did not feel the woman's story was true and indeed read has practically confessed as much by fleeing from the Almshouse and
Starting point is 00:42:45 from the state and remaining absent, though invited by your committee to return. The testimony under the same charge also showed clearly that the inspectors had taken no pain to stop the practice of sending a young man at night through the rooms where so many young inmate women were sleeping, a practice which, in in this instance seems to have been the occasion of the offense committed Holy shit. Okay. Yes. This read guys just going in and like having sex with the inmates Yeah, I say in the inmates Jesus Christ. What the shit lacks. Yeah Exactly proper response
Starting point is 00:43:21 They mean by leaving their wives behind what's fascinating about this is it really is just a look at pre sort of governmental oversight on state run institutions, things like that, which it's weird because we've had that oversight for so long that we're at the point where people are like, we don't need that anymore. And it's like, bro, you don't understand. I go back and read some old articles and you will very quickly understand why we do it. Wait till you read the sausage and it has rubber in it and an eyeball in it and you'll see.
Starting point is 00:43:53 Yeah, next time you get a sausage and it's got like a finger, you let us know. The same is to be said, respecting another charge in the relation to the very lax discipline of the Almshouse, supported as it has been a very copious testimony proving to be true. If the Superintendent and inspectors had done their duty, the discipline of the Almshouse could not have fallen into such a state as our witnesses have described, and the Superintendent has virtually admitted. We have proved by the official records of the Board of Charities and of the Almshouse that in 1874 a male inmate, Mark Caharty, by name gained admission to the female hospital at night and was about to commit an outrage
Starting point is 00:44:32 upon Brigitte Fiehann, one of the patients, an offense for which, in parenthesis with other offenses, he is sentenced to the state workhouse. We proved that a similar attempt in another part of the almshouse was made last December by an inmate employed and trusted by the superintendent as a petty officer. They literally made an inmate a petty officer. What the fuck? Like this is again, regulations.
Starting point is 00:45:00 This is what inmates like. You know what? He's not as crazy as like the rest of them. You're not like that crazy, right? It's fine. We could trust him with some sort of responsibility among you know He won't try to break into the women's building and commit like heinous atrocities against them Fantastic. It's crazy to me that they would because we talked about in the 70s with John Wayne Gacy and like becoming super close friends with like the heads of the prison that he was in. And they gave him responsibilities of the kitchen and how much he got away with
Starting point is 00:45:30 that still. But like to just be like, you're a petty officer. That's insane. You just like, I can't imagine. This is one of those things that they teach to prison guards. Now, um, we don't have institutions anymore institutions anymore, but for criminal, for like guards in prisons and even teachers to some extent, there's literal training to be like, look, in this setting you're gonna be with people frequently and you're gonna form relationships with them. Here's the deal though, It is not smart to do that. Like it will happen. You will be like, Oh, I like that person. They're a good person, but like,
Starting point is 00:46:11 it's going to put you in a bad position. Don't do that, dude. There's a lot of, uh, prison workshopping that is super interesting. When you look at it, where it's like, even if this inmate guy, girl, whatever, is like the nicest person ever, you have no idea what's going on in their head, do not fall for this, like some of these people are like killers, dude, and so it's very interesting to see how, I mean even then, because there is no one saying don't do this, you have to imagine there's people who's like, you know what, he's a good guy, and because he's here every day. We don't have to pay him. We can like make
Starting point is 00:46:50 him in charge. I think just not putting the inmates in charge of anything is probably just a good plan. Like it doesn't even come down to trust. Like just if, if, if the list of people is everyone in town and the guys that are also in the prison that you're in charge of, maybe just go for the regular, like maybe just go for like the regular old method of hiring somebody who works in the town to do the job who might be capable. That's the part for me where I'm just like, did the common sense really not exist to not give like responsibilities to inmates? Like, I still, I still mostly blame the guy who did the raping, of course, but I think common sense wise,
Starting point is 00:47:31 it's not, it was, we look back and say, that seems stupid, but I don't think that was the scenario here. I think the scenario here was, we're getting money to house these people. Oh yeah. And then who the hell cares how we handle it once they're inside. It gets a little darker here a little bit. We proved that several bastard children have been begotten in the Almshouse.
Starting point is 00:47:53 So polite the wording in this. I know. Within the last two years and that inmate women with much probability alleged similar intercourse in other instances where children were not born. We proved that the sexes were allowed to mingle at Tewksbury under so little restriction that the offenses might easily occur as in fact they have occurred. Jesus Christ. They were just letting the male prisoners in and out.
Starting point is 00:48:19 If this exact article came out today, it would be like the most, it would be like the world would like turn their eyes to this. Yeah. Well, I'd like to think that's the case, but I feel like today is just like a delusion. It's a crapshoot. Yeah, who knows? Yeah. We offer testimony to show that one Ordway, an assistant farmer at the Ons House, an assistant farmer, okay, eloped last autumn with a female in inmate and left the state desiring his wife and children. Oh, shit. Not desire yet. The opposite, deserting his wife and children who for some months were ignorant of his whereabouts. We proved that one Thompson, another employee of the at the the OMS house eloped with the town of, of Tewkesbury with a girl, much younger than himself and was arrested for abduction on complaint of the
Starting point is 00:49:12 girl's mother, not withstanding which, which scandal he was retained in his place by the superintendent. Jesus Christ. Like they, if you just like take it like kidnapping these women who were in the asylum, eloping with them What the fuck what the fuck I'm also curious about the women being put in there because This was the time period where oh yeah very true. This woman's crazy Cuz she spoke out to me throw her in the booby hatch Yeah, how many wives did you do that to, Krendor, back then?
Starting point is 00:49:45 How many wives did you throw into the crazy ass when you were done? How many? You know, it was just, it was a moral atmosphere. Really moral atmosphere. It's just, that was a different place. Yeah. He wasn't there. And he gave you stuff.
Starting point is 00:50:01 He wasn't there. He was no comment. That was the biggest long comment and no comment. He wasn't hard to know comment. That was the biggest long comment and no comment. Guys, you're at a different time. Don't question what I did back then. It was different. It was different. I was a different man.
Starting point is 00:50:14 I didn't know. Those Tewkesbury people are crazy. Yeah, man, wow. Call it Tewkesbury. That's why you don't go to Tewkesbury. You just don't. Yeah. We proved that, you know, Cranedore was the person that they ran to to do the marriage.
Starting point is 00:50:28 Cranedore was the one that was like ordained. Cranedore was the reverend? Yeah, he was the reverend. Reverend Gustav? In no lifetime would Cranedore ever be the reverend. Cranedore wouldn't, but Gustave de Leroy, he could do anything. You're right, you're right. He could do anything.
Starting point is 00:50:42 A little shawl and a mustache. He could be anyone. He could be anyone. Yeah, you could be anyone. For a few minutes. You could be anybody for a few minutes. We proved that the superintendent and assistant superintendent were at variance about a matter of discipline. The assistant superintendent, who was a son of the superintendent, it's family all the
Starting point is 00:51:03 way down, running this place, undertaking to prevent one of the officers from voting the democratic ticket as the state election of 1874 and actually preventing him while the superintendent told the officer he might vote for whom he pleased. We have proved in fact, just such a state of discipline as might naturally be expected where an old man Fond of his family and surrounded by his children grandchildren like an oriental patriarch Listen I didn't write it. I'm just reading the article. That's all there is Fucking Christ
Starting point is 00:51:42 Swipes left and right Christ, it's like six swipes left and right Do you well do you remember in the in the carnal rain one there was the the Irish drinks too much like Jab for in this in this case at least it's like kind of a compliment still stereotype. Yeah, it's racist Stereotype what's weird about it is it's literally saying that much like and and this is crazy. It's like basically he put his children and grandchildren in charge of important things. So basically the end of this is this guy kept putting people who had no business being in their position. Just like in Oregon.
Starting point is 00:52:23 No, he's saying that he's running the insane asylum like a Chinese. Yeah. Yes. And the craziest statements I've ever read. We just like the Oriental Patriarch comment stopped us dead. But it goes on to say, surrounded by his children, grandchildren, like an Oriental patriarch has had the weakness to appoint his whole family to important offices in a public institution. It's racist as fuck. Like it's bad. Or as Krendel would say, it was different morality.
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Starting point is 00:53:01 time. It was a different time. It was a different time. It was a different time. It was a different time. It was a different time. It was a different time. It was a different time. It was a different time. It was a different time. It was a different time. It was a different time. It was a different time. It was a different time. It was a different time. It was a different time. It was a different time. It was a different time. It was a different time. It was a different time. It was a different time. It was a different time. It was a different time. It was a different time. It was a different time. It was a different time. It was a different time. It was a different time. It was a different time. It was a different time. It was a different time. It was a different time. It was a calling out nepotism, but doing it in a way that is like very racist. Yes, yes. Insinuating that nepotism only exists like that for like... Oh, of course, yeah. Like the emperors of old. That wouldn't happen for like, I don't know, like a high political power.
Starting point is 00:53:18 Yeah, that would never happen. This next paragraph is titled, can this thing be stopped? And this brings me to the point concerning which I ask your careful consideration. And if legislation will avail anything, your aid in preventing by law serious evil. It is scandalous gentlemen, that a public officer, no, never, never, however, looks like an however well-meaning should be allowed to surround himself in a great public establishment with so many of his own offspring and kindred drawing salaries, living at the expense of the taxpayers and forming a clan or ring that manage matters as they please. It's a weird echo.
Starting point is 00:53:59 I don't want to. No, no. It's 2024 gentlemen. Everything is fine. We're doing great. This is not happening anywhere else. Nowhere else. Uh, it is well enough and often unavoidable to allow a superintendent or other public
Starting point is 00:54:16 officer to employ a single relative. Generally it would be his wife in a position of trust, but beyond that the law should forbid him to go if those who appoint or confirm appointments have not discretion enough to prevent this nepotism. A little nepotism, of course. It's to be expected. Everybody's entitled to a little nepotism. But this is too much.
Starting point is 00:54:38 This is like the Chinese mafia of nepotism. We see at Washington what mischief it has done on a great scale. God man. Yeah. We see at Tewksbury how mischievous it can be in a petty way. If your investigation leads to nothing more than the prevention of such nepotism in Massachusetts, you will not have wasted the time spent on the inquiry. Honestly, this guy's got a good head on his shoulders. It wasn't a little racist. I was about to say, ignoring the racism. The interesting thing about this is that when you look at this style of news reporting versus kind of modern day news reporting. Yeah. Honestly, I kind of dig a reporter who's like, yeah, like I am accusing you and I
Starting point is 00:55:32 have the evidence. And if the cops like cops do your damn job, like we don't get that much anymore. We get reports that are like, here is what happened and that is it. Or worse. Introduced unfairly to child's skull. Like, you know, did the bullet have a reason? Yeah. Or it's like a, the ones Crendor and I read, which are like insane asylum story is crazy. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:56:01 And then they'd make all the reference, like the, you won't, you'll be out of your mind after reading this story. I was curious who the president was in Washington at the time. In 1870, whatever it was, Ulysses S. Grant. That's right. Yeah, I'm sorry. Incredible general, terrible president. Terrible, not a great president.
Starting point is 00:56:23 Died a homeless man. We're just one decade after the Civil War at this point. This is 1876, so 1865 it ended. 1877 was Grant's final year of presidency. Right, Civil War ended in 65, 1865 or? I couldn't tell you. I used to be a US history major. I know the basic time period when it ended
Starting point is 00:56:43 and that is correct. I felt like we had a former history teacher here to tell a U.S. history. I know that. I know the basic time period when it ended and that is correct. Although we had like a former history teacher here to tell us. 1865. It went from 1861 to 1865. So we're literally like 10 years and it's like 11 years out from the Civil War. Going back to what Jesse said, the next section is literally called, oh, shame Massachusetts. Yes, isn't it? I love it. There's, you know, it's just a guy going at them.
Starting point is 00:57:07 Like you are like, why people thought they were cool. Yeah. Yeah. Let's see his grant signed in the eight hour workday for federal employees. Interestingly enough, the, um, Republican ticket at the time for 1876 was the Rutherford B Hayes and you're probably saying, who's that Jesse? Well, it's Rutherford B Hayes. Ooh. And you're probably saying, who's that Jesse? Well, it's Rutherford B Hayes. Not much actually happened, although it did kind of ruin all of the, uh,
Starting point is 00:57:34 games in the South that were made during reconstruction. They kind of shut that down. What happened to people named Rutherford? Probably not for B Hayes. Yeah, that's, that's, yeah, there's gotta be at least one like person named Rutherford in the world right now. Right. Only one. Because the quickening, the quickening, they, they go around and they collect all the other Rutherfords by cutting off their heads. The laundry.
Starting point is 00:57:57 Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Then all the windows break. Moving on. Yeah. Oh, shame Massachusetts, Massachusetts. Oh, shame Massachusetts.
Starting point is 00:58:08 Oh shame Massachusetts, but I also call your attention, gentlemen of the committee, to the more serious and distressing fact that here in Massachusetts, in our largest public establishment for the poor and unfortunate, there have been detected and corrected within two years and a half some of the worst abuses that can exist in such establishments. For the discovery, condemnation, and repression of these events, as the sworn testimony before you has shown, the Board of State Charities alone is responsible. For the existence of the abuses, the superintendent is an all-pervading family. The inspectors who neglected nothing and the governors and legislators that allowed them to remain in office are slowly and jointly responsible.
Starting point is 00:58:45 The worst of these abuses, the illegal imprisonment of insane women, was reported by me to the chairman of your committee about a year ago after the board of charities had removed it, but before the avowed author of the abuse had been allowed to leave the Alm House uncensored by its authorities. Other evils had been reported from time to time by members of the Board of Charities
Starting point is 00:59:06 to the Executive of the Commonwealth, to the Board of Inspectors, and to other responsible officials. Dr. Howe complained to Governor Washburn of the wretched sanitary stricture and condition of the hospitals. Dr. Allen discovered the secret imprisonment of the Insane and called it to be given up. I myself put a stop to the shocking mortality among the insane women last summer by insisting that the faithful old physician infirm from age but skillful in his profession should supersede the daughter of the superintendent
Starting point is 00:59:38 in the charge of these poor individuals. So literally the guy who wrote this article who got involved and made the cheese. Yeah. He was like heavily involved. Spider-Man, which is kind of cool. I wonder if he was more than just like a journalist or if this was a masked, a masked vigilante. Yeah. A mask vigilante. The general agent, Mr. uh, writing 10 probed the inquit, uh, iniquity of the night watchman read and sent him fleeing from Massachusetts If the discipline of the almshouse is now better than at any time since 1872 as I believe it is The improvement is due absolutely to the members of the board of charities individually and collectively who have lost no opportunity since the revelations of
Starting point is 01:00:21 1873 and 1874 to purge and improve the state almshouse. They have done their duty, gentlemen, it remains for you and for others in official station to do theirs. And that duty will not be fully discharged until the administration of Tewksbury has been radically changed. Yeah, I think I like was like, heavily involved in everything and was seems like he's been he was working on it for two straight years before this article that he wrote for it.
Starting point is 01:00:48 Flipping racist comment. Yeah. Yeah. I've seen the name associated with this. Oh yeah. That's true. None of these articles have a name. It's a masked masked man. Interesting. I wonder if it's all the same author. No way. I don't think so. And the New York Herald? No way if it's all the same author. No way Your Harold no way, it's all the same author. That's fair. Yeah, I wonder what this guy said he was in Washington Yeah, I don't see a name interesting the top I don't know if it means like who found it you see the top versus old Fulton NY postcards by Tom Trenis It's got to be the person who found this. Why don't we wrap up with a small one?
Starting point is 01:01:27 Maybe a little bit less disturbing than what we just went through but now we know that's what medicine used to be like and without regulations Maybe like again, that wasn't just medicine. That was like just yeah nepotism That was everything corruption in like government. It was everything. I was Chinatown the next little thing is just called. Forget it. The next thing is called Southern Evangelization. At the Newark Methodist Preachers Meeting, yesterday afternoon, Reverend Dr. Lee of Georgia spoke at some length of the ignorance of the whites and blacks in the South of their need of religious instruction and of the efforts being made by Roman Catholics.
Starting point is 01:02:06 That's what I am. That's what I was raised as Roman Catholic. We're like the weird culty magical version of Christianity. Lot of rituals kind of stuff to bring them into the Rome, a Romish church, all of which he urged were reasons why the work of the Methodists should be increased. At present, the work is not well supported. And if interest is not now taken, many of those engaged in labor will have to desist for want of means. For what it's worth, Roman Catholicism spread like wildfire in New England. So it eventually
Starting point is 01:02:34 did like catch. It's very much like the predominant. It was predominant religion is still very heavily out there. So what's the difference between Catholic and Roman Catholic then? I believe I want to believe it's just like, I feel like that's it. I feel like there's Catholics. Guilt? Yeah, there's no more guilt in Roman. I feel like Roman Catholics are Catholics.
Starting point is 01:02:52 Well, that's what Catholics are. Yeah, but like, you know, guilt. You know, like a lot of guilt. What kind of sick Catholicist? I was raised Catholic, probably because of the same reason that they said Oriental Patriarch. Just like some kind of weird fucking
Starting point is 01:03:04 old timey way of saying it. The term Roman Catholic is used to differentiate members of the Catholic church who are in communion with the Pope and use the Roman right from other Catholics, whatever. So they're like super Catholics. Yeah, more or less. We're the magical ones. Catholics like the Bible says like, you know, no, you know, don't worship anybody else besides me, but Catholics have like saints, you know, that each have like domains that they watch over and like, if you lose something, you pray to a saint that like looks over like finding lost things. Yeah, that's like what Catholics are.
Starting point is 01:03:35 Basically, Catholicism is the business that modern day Christianity wishes it could be. Okay, okay. No, no. So Catholics are Catholics, but there's, Roman Catholics are all the Roman right Catholics. There's also Maronite Catholics and Ukrainian Catholics and Chaldean Catholics. Sure, makes sense. Which I don't think any, almost anyone in America is thinking of when they say Catholics. I think almost everyone in America is thinking of Roman Catholics when they say Catholics. I would disagree. I would say most Americans, when they think Catholic,
Starting point is 01:04:07 they think Irish Catholic. That's Roman Catholic. Right. But I mean, like they don't think like a pop on a beat. So they think, I know, Oh, but I'm just saying here, the same one though, there's just cause they're in, you know, uh, New York or Boston. Like it's like, I understood. They're not thinking Rome. They're thinking like Boston for sure That's what was like all my priests were Irish growing up like every priest and I was Irish like yeah Dude, I was I raised was raised Lutheran. So I get it. Yeah, they're just like do these Catholics are idiots
Starting point is 01:04:39 Saints those aren't real. Oh Their newest Catholic Saint is from a few years ago. He's an influencer. He's the first influencer saint. His body is in the Church of Saints. You can go at it. And people went and prayed to him. In order to be considered a saint,
Starting point is 01:04:55 to be ordained a saint, miracles have to happen post-mortem. Right, right, right. And he had two miracles happen. One cancer was secured. What were these miracles? One cancer was cured after they prayed to him after they were diagnosed. And I can't remember what the other one is. Uh, a camera kept its battery for four days and four nights.
Starting point is 01:05:12 He kept streaming even after he died. Even after he was dead, the stream kept going. Him and like two other saints from way older times are like in a building where their body's in a glass coffin and he's still wearing his like branded jacket. Like it's like it's like dystopian to me. I always thought the concept of miracles was weird. Oh, because like a miracle is like, wow, this thing was supposed to go one way and then went a different, but that means that like God's plan, which is like all knowing, all powerful, he works in mysterious ways. So you don't really know, like maybe he's killing this person for a reason that's mysterious. But for some reason, some dude being like, I'm going to do a miracle
Starting point is 01:05:52 that like made you change God's perfect plane. I feel like it's like in Tony Hawk when they do the yellow score tricks. Like a miracle is just like, whoa, you thought that shit was going to be fucking different. But God, it's still God's plan But that was tight Why cuz that's probably why I prayed to God to be like spider-man or a Power Ranger cuz like I was raised in the miracles And like when that didn't happen what you do and right to say I thought I was gonna one-up Satan cuz I was like I'll just do so much good in the world as a Power Ranger like it was
Starting point is 01:06:28 How the rules work? Remember going back and reading some of the Bible stories some of them really creepy dude The Bible is filled with wild shit angels falling from heaven and like fucking like farmers daughters and shit No, why all trash revelations is where it's at? farmers, daughters and shit. No, that's all trash. Revelations is where it's at. Dude, Revelations is sick. Dragon, whores, like metal, heavy metal battles.
Starting point is 01:06:50 Like, multi-headed beasts crawling out of the air from like hell. It's fucking crazy. Pure comic bookery. I mean, the most insane one was just Adam and Eve. Because if you read Adam and Eve, it's like they're just like these new people. They don't know what's going on. You just like got created for the first time you're walking around. And then he's like, don't eat that apple, even though I know you're going to eat it
Starting point is 01:07:08 because I know everything and I put it there and it's like, and then it's the like the tree of knowledge. Like he doesn't want you to have knowledge. And then they eat it. And then they're just like, oh, God, and they're hiding. And he comes down like he doesn't just like sit up in heaven like, hey, what's up? He comes down to the garden and he's walking around like it's like a horror game. He's like walking around like, where are you guys? Hello. And they're just like, Hey, what's up, guy? Like he comes down to the garden and he's walking around. Like it's like a horror game. He's like walking around like, where are you guys?
Starting point is 01:07:27 Hello. And they're just like, don't say anything. And he's like, I know you did. Come on out. It's just like, oh my God. Yeah. Literally crazy. Very vengeful in the Old Testament. And just a lot of, a lot of toxic relationship. Gaslighting like murder your son, murder your son. JK. And then like the father goes to the torment of like,
Starting point is 01:07:44 am I going to murder my son? He finally does. And right when he goes to stab his son, and then like the father goes to the torment of like am I gonna murder my son? He finally does and right when he goes to stab his son God's like hey, you don't need to kill your son I'm like you traumatize that man. That's ice cold dog Good shit, but you know we were tight as ice cold put your your son in charge of this insane in silent. Yeah He made he made his own son in charge of Earth. It's pure nepotism. Nepotism. And on that, everybody, Krendor, thank you for joining us on today's episode. Hey, no problem.
Starting point is 01:08:12 I'm ready for a biblical scholar to absolutely destroy the last five minutes. He's idiots. Boom. Yeah, but Krendor was alive during that time. I was alive. Yeah, I was walking around the garden. Krendor was in the Garden of Eden. Yeah. It was Adam, Eve and Gustav. Yeah, Gustav. He's the Assassin's Creed guy. He's the Assassin's Creed guy. Yeah. Have
Starting point is 01:08:32 you seen the back? Have you seen this fruit? It looks delicious. He like, I don't know what you need that. And Gustav over here was like, I'm just saying it's right there. So you're trying to say like Eve, like the rib from Eve was taken and she saw Adam, she was like, nah, she just like took another rib and made it to Grendor and was like, I'm just saying it's right there. So you're trying to say like Eve, like the rib from Eve was taken and she saw Adam. She was like, man, she just like took another rib and made a crendorn was like, she needed a friend to talk to. Yeah, that's probably like, that's probably I feel like scholars.
Starting point is 01:08:53 They're like, that's like a metaphor for how God took ribs out of the earth and created the world and our image of God's image of. This is what was taught back then? This is what everybody was taught. This classic education in the 80s. He just went to school. Don't forget, God gets tired though. He had to take the seventh day off because creating things as an omnipotent ever creature
Starting point is 01:09:17 is exhausting. The thing is like, I don't even blame him, but it's like, you can't just say you're like, you don't get tired and then talk about how you're tired. I'd rather just be like, Hey, I get tired. All right. He's like, could he have could he have done it? Yeah. But like, there's something to be said for you know, a nice little tuna melt. When you put in a little work satisfying feels good. To
Starting point is 01:09:40 remind you. Yeah, you think God smokes? Sweet. Yeah, we I think he is. To remind you. Yeah. You think God smokes? Weed? Yeah, weed. I think he is. Is weed. Weed. Oh, fuck. What?
Starting point is 01:09:52 He is weed. What? It makes so much sense. Is he weed, dog? I need to pray. I need to pray real quick. We're gonna get, this is the episode that gets, this is the one that's gonna blow up.
Starting point is 01:10:03 Patreon.com. This is the one where we're gonna get a bunch of messages of messages about like we've lost our way not wait you assholes So desperately want to get like if there is someone who's gonna get upset please come at us and be like God's not weed! No, Jesus is weed, God is mushrooms. Jesus is love, God is weed. Listen someone's always gonna get upset about everything all right no matter what your stances. Yeah you're right. Bean Boys new slogan, God is weed! Do you piss people off on your stream all the time? Speaking of, where can people find your stream when you're gonna piss people off? Well, I would say first go listen
Starting point is 01:10:50 to the Cox and Crendor podcast. Great podcast, youtube.com slash Cox and Crendor podcast. That's a place where we'll be doing a live show along with this live show that we've already talked about that doesn't matter, because we're sold out. So there's really no reason to even talk about it. If you're there, you're there. If you're there, you're there. Twitch TV, Crenn door, YouTube, Crenn door. I make pointless top 10 world warcraft. I play games with RNG
Starting point is 01:11:13 on stream. Thank you Crenn door. Hey, thanks. I'm sure we'll see you on this show again at some point in the future. Yeah. Yeah. Give cover to mandated like appearance as that comes around. Yeah, that's all the podcasts I ever go on. It's like my random appearance. I go on like all the like it used to be the co-optional. Now I show up on the geekenders. I was gonna say, as soon as geekenders and geekenders start, it's just immediate. I was like, I mean, it makes sense, right? Because geekenders and spiritual successor in some ways to co-optional, Krendor already
Starting point is 01:11:43 had a seat carved out for him to crawl into. Yeah. Whenever I'm on geek enders, it just becomes Cox and Kandora with Dodger. Like it just breaks down into that. Even if it doesn't start as that. And that makes sense. Jesse, Jesse allows it. He could stop it at any time. He can't. It's so much fun. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:12:02 So happy to be here. We'll be back. Kind of like Larry David No Bingo We're off to come to a mini-sode at patreon.com Slash to the monopod. We'll be back next week with another guest another returning guest. We'll be back next week Thank you all so much. We appreciate you. We love you. Bye. Bye
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