Chilluminati Podcast - Episode 279 - Top 8 Hoaxes of ALL Time w/ Davis

Episode Date: December 29, 2024

Alex reveals to Mike, Jesse and Davis what his giant 8H ARG thing was...along with the top hoaxes to ever have hoaxed! Video Link - https://youtu.be/4c6lMMcPxh8 MERCH - http://www.theyetee.com/collections/chilluminati HeroForge - http://www.heroforge.com Promo Code - CHILL All you lovely people at Patreon! HTTP://PATREON.COM/CHILLUMINATIPOD Jesse Cox - http://www.youtube.com/jessecox Alex Faciane - http://www.youtube.com/user/superbeardbros Editor - DeanCutty http://www.twitter.com/deancutty Show art by - https://twitter.com/JetpackBraggin http://www.instagram.com/studio_melectro

Hello everybody and welcome back to the Chiluminati Podcast, Episode 279, I do believe. As always, I'm one of your hosts, Mike Martin, today joined by very special guest, Jesse and Alex and nobody else. Hey guys. Hey! Well, well, well. This has been the longest running guests on any podcast ever. Yeah, it's true. Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, I think is what the vibe is, right? We need that balance every so often. Well, to be the opposite, Davis would have to literally be

like, you're all stupid. Stupid, stupid idiots. And you're just the worst. That's the only way to balance. I'm just saying it out loud to be polite. That's Davis. But in fairness, my brain says that to me too. So, everybody's, nobody's spared. Everybody's guilty. You guys ready to jump into this long scripted bit that I have? Yeah, by the way, just finished the DB Cooper episode yesterday. Was so excited to get the reveal and it's just fucking like, is it even the hoaxes thing? Is that even related to the eight episodes at all? Thank you so much.

I was like, I'm bored. I was like giving you the benefit of the doubt the whole time when you guys were giving him shit. And I'm like, no, it's going to lead to something. But of course the guy that looks fucking lost would make a hoax that leads to nothing. Exactly. Oh yeah.

Wow. Wouldn't it be great if you could just eat your words in real time? Wouldn't that be amazing if there was like some episode that was about to occur that was going to be like one of the coolest things you've ever seen? If this does, then I will... I'll take it back.

Well, we got a lot to get through. Ready? Here we go. Ho ho ho! Ho ho ho! Or should I say ho ho hoax! Welcome back to the Say It With Me, my Christmas winter Illuminati explosion! Noel! The HH sequence is definitely for sure all the way over. Christmas, Winter Luminati, Guestplosion, Noel! The HH sequence is definitely for sure all the way over. Nothing else to reveal.

And for better or worse, we have certainly put all our cards on the table for sure by revealing that this week's Christmas special is going to be about the top eight hoaxes ever perpetrated on the innocent public, who unfortunately still has the terrible habit of believing everything that they read also. And that's why you know what? That's why we have the double. We have the opposite of Santel this week. That's exactly what we have in here. And as an as an as an extra bit of fun, it's going to be a loosely themed advent calendar of an episode with seven doors. Lucky number seven, because as we all know, seven.

I have that on DVD. Yeah, I do too. I've never seen it. It's seven of a movie, but a fun one. It's a hard lucky number, seven. Lucky number seven is the ultimate seven. That's true. Seven is a powerful number in numerology, as we all know. A discipline which I will call the lifeblood of this show.

And of course, advent calendars aren't actually random like this one is, but this one is random because it makes the show format different and unexpected from how it normally goes. And to help us turn over the metaphorical panels in today's game, let's officially welcome the Vanna White of today's show, founding member of the Warp Zone, where you might know him as the generic studio executive Dick Richards, Scary Game Squad, where you might know him as The Pretty One, or the Star Wars Old Canon Book Club squad where you might know him as the pretty one or the Star Wars Old Cannon Book Club where you might know him as the guy who likes Luke Skywalker slightly too much.

Ladies and gentlemen, it's Michael Davis. I mean, and Han got a lot of stock rose. Han deserves the love. Han is the right answer. Davis, before we start, since this isn't your first time on the show, has anything recently had you thinking like in your life, like, man, this would be great to talk about on Chaluminati? Have you ever have you seen some kind of mystery or some sort of unexplained thing in your life? Like, I know I talked to you very much and the answer is probably no. But like, is there something or even just like a bone to pick?

I know you're mad about H8, like every single other person that listens to this show. But, you know, what is there anything you want to say now that you're mad about H8 like every single other person that listens to this show, but You know what is there anything that you want to say now that you're a listener? No last time I had that girl I think I talked about last time when I was driving out to Vegas and I just saw an Exploded back of a truck end it yeah all I could think was it like Hulk or some experiment had burst out of it, right? I wish I had something like that because I'm very very very skeptical and I like anytime I see anything. I'm just like There is a very logical explanation. I can't think of it that one had me just like Whoa for days. Yeah, that's just somebody's tragedy and a whole lot of money lost. I did just watch

close encounters of a third kind for the first time as an adult and I saw it as a kid. I see why as a kid it didn't resonate with me that much, but as an adult I'm like Man, UFO shit makes for really compelling movies So now I kind of want to go on a UFO movie kick. And it makes for really compelling real life as it is in the past month and a half. And Davis watch on the plane back from drone, drone frenzy, drone, Palooza dude, or drone. The, what, what the thing that Jesse shared with us today, but also like, was like from last night of just like the government being like we at the,

the state and local governments being like, we'll do this for free. We'll try to figure it out. And the federal being like, Nope, please don't. Yeah. Do not do that. Don like, we'll do this for free. We'll try to figure it out. And the federal being like, nope, please don't. Yeah. Do not do that. Don't we don't want to know. Like, and they're just, they're covering it up for whatever. Weird as shit. So it's possible shit. Um, but I was going to say, Davis was watching that movie on the plane back from Chicago, where we just did our live show, which was the novel plant tabulus.

If I must say so myself, I would say it was Magorius. I would say it was Flaiby Lourious, if you will. Gorgeous, wonder, glorious. I had a great time. And now we're back. And Davis, before we start, Davis had nothing to do but show up to be on the podcast today. So he's not only going to be operating the quote unquote advent calendar for us today, but he's also gonna be handling all of the reading and illustrating that we're gonna need today

because as my Christmas present to Mathis and Jesse, I just want him to sit back and relax today and not have to read anything. Isn't that nice? That's, oh wow, thank you for that. Look at that. That worries me more than anything. But I just want to like, just to calibrate everything,

I just want to check. So I just want to check out this quote That is like from Kermit the Frog Kermit the Frog quote that Davis is gonna read we Kermit on the show Yeah, I'm hoping we're gonna have him right now because as we know a Muppet Christmas Carols a big Christmas movie So this is this is Davis's Kermit. Just watch that last week. Oh, yeah. Here's a quote from Kermit Hey there listeners Kermit the Frog here reporting live from a log near the shore of a small creek You know because I'm a frog and that's the kind of place the frogs live though as you know in some ways

I'm different from other frogs like for example I'm a movie star and my wife is a beautiful pig seven to eight times my size But speaking of family what better gift to give your giant pig wife this Christmas or your children like Tiny Tim Whether a tadpole or piglet the membership for the house of for the house computer at patreon.com Slash Chaluma naughty pod where there's something I should silence my phone where there's something for everyone even a poorly formed frog pig chimera And just so we're clear here's Davis as Michael Cain. Wow. What is happening right now? There was such like depth to Davis' ability to imitate.

Yeah. Here's here's Davis as Michael Cain from Muppet Christmas Carol with the definition of a hoax from the Merriam-Webster dictionary. I would have used OED, but it charges now. We're all about to discover how to torture Davis. Yeah.ED, but it charges now. Is this the whole episode just to like, torture Davis? Yeah, well it's here. Oh, this is the definition? Yeah. Okay. Okay. An act intended to trick or dupe something accepted or established by fraud or fabrication,

the size of a tangerine. The size of a fucking tangerine. Great. And just before we start, I know from other times that we've had you on, Davis, that you're kind of a Jesse. We talked about it a little bit already when it comes to unexplained stuff and even fiction where like the explanation is pretty key to your enjoyment or investment in something, let's say.

So I ask all three of you, because it's really kind of different when you know the answer to a mystery, how do you guys feel about hoaxes? Also, I just want to point out, I realize I'm not a skeptic. I love science, and I deep dive on scientific things all the time. I read a book about the history of fucking air conditioning. I love that level of stuff. I'm only skeptical because when you see what the greatest minds of a field, how

they talk about something, and then a lot of These kind of things you're like, no, no, that's a baby brain that thought of that That's not a real person that knows shit. So that like you want to go a lot of people are Davis I'm just gonna I'm gonna prompt this is free for later There's something you're gonna lose yourself in for a while. You want to lose yourself in a world of conspiracy and science? Look at all the people who have created wildly breakthrough technology, magnetic movement and whatnot, and see how all of them were killed. Oh shit, is that a whole thing?

Three or four scientists who had multiple- I mean, if you were writing a movie, that's where I would start. Yeah, there's a few scientists who have made some massive breakthroughs and have fucking vanished. Should we say disruptive tech? I just wanna say for the record- Yeah, disruptive tech, we say disruptive tech? I just want to say for the record.

That's a good way. I just want to say for the record, the way Mathis, the way you describe that, unfortunately, is a victim of its own thing. You said, look at all the people that were killed. Then you said the three or four that were killed. Then you said the few that were killed. So I just want to state. Breakthrough science.

Look at all the breakthrough science and then see the number of scientists that were killed three or four in that sphere. About three or four that I can think off top of my head. Mostly it doesn't sound as great of a conspiracy when you sell it like that, but like, well, it doesn't mean it's less of a, I was like 30 scientists were murdered. I'd be like, Whoa. Yeah. That's also like, well, it's truly, truly revolutionary breakthrough technology is not like a thing you just whip

out all the time. Like it is occasional. Yeah. And usually the government wants it. Alex, can we really quickly define a hoax? Because I think, uh, there's a line between, say for example, war of the worlds, which was intended to be entertainment. And then people thought was real and they had to be like, it's not real. And people were like, what a hoax versus someone actively trying to fool people. Yeah. Michael Caine, as Michael Caine read that, as Michael Caine said, the point is that it's intentional. Would you consider the discovery was a Discovery Channel, the mermaid thing that happened where they presented this documentary like it was real,

but it was fake, but they didn't really an autopsy in the 90s. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Exactly. They know it's fake. If they know it's fake when they put it out, that's a hoax. But they didn't really. With an alien autopsy in the 90s? Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly. If they know it's fake when they put it out, that's a hoax. But they don't tell the people that it's fake. No, that's the very thing. You're trying to get something across that is not true by pretending it is true. What if at the end in small print they say for entertainment purposes only?

Legally not a hoax. Legally not a hoax. But philosophically, definitely hoax. Okay, so you get it? Each of you is going to take turns opening doors one through seven. Once you open a door, that door is off the board, okay? Each door is going to have a different hoax behind it that we're going to learn about. And at the end, as a grand finale of the episode, we're going to take a look at door number eight. Okay? Is it actually 8-8-H? Yeah, do any of these doors have a car behind them? Well, now, you should mention that because each time it's your turn to open a door,

you also get the random gift that is behind that door as well. And it will show up at your door in two to three days' time. Are any of them... kisses? That remains to be seen depending on what you're into. But everybody's gonna get to go twice and Davis is gonna get to go one more time because he's the guest and I'm making him

do all these stupid voices. So Davis, you go first. Pick your first number, one through seven. Oh, shit. Two. A meaningless gesture, no stress. Choice paralysis immediately. I'm always paralysis-touched by choices. Don't worry.

I didn't just want to go with one, so I just went one up from that. You don't have to worry about it. It's not going to be inconsequential. I don't have to tell you why. Jesus, you have to reveal the secrets. I don't I don't owe you my breakthrough way of thinking about numbers. It's no issue here. Okay, number two. This is... This is not how Advent calendars... It just sounds like ripping cardboard. Mine is sick. Mine is sick. Shut the fuck up. Mine rules.

This one's called The Great Moon Hoax. Okay, so this one's kind of Jules Verne or something like that. Back in 1835, in a publication called The Southern Literary Messenger, there was a story published by Edgar Allan Poe that he wrote as if it were a true story, like from first person, about this like Dutch guy coming back from an adventure on the moon, everything you saw there, etc, etc. It was a neat story and people really enjoyed its's sort of like humorous satirical tone. But because of the way he wrote it, it was generally understood to be fiction right away. Even though like maybe for a second it feels exciting because it's kind of presented as true. This was like everybody's like, oh, this is fake. And here's Davis as Arnold Schwarzenegger's character Howard Langston from the only movie with Simbad and Jake Lloyd and Jim Belushi and Verne Schreuer jingle all the way with a quote from Edgar Allan

Poe. Here we go. This is not going to get better. From behind the bulk, the huge bulk of one of the sharply defined masses of cloud already mentioned was seen slowly to emerge in an open area of blue space. A queer heterogeneous but apparently solid body or substance, so oddly shaped, so outright in appearance, so whimsically put together as to not be in any manner comprehended and never to be sufficiently admired by the host of sturdy burgers who stood open-mouthed and thunderstruck below. What could it be,

in the name of all the crows and devils in rothedam what could it possibly pretend no one knew no one could imagine no one not even the burger master me I'm has super bus fun you hooked had the slightest clue why which to unravel the mystery exactly from like head growling to hitler kind of back and forth. They're both very Austrian. There's the anger in the voice, I think. I think they're both Austrian. I famously suck at accents. It's one of the fun layers of this grand Christmas special.

However, someone probably saw this, decided to run with the idea, because like two months later in the New York Sun, which was like another paper, came another story just like this about life on the moon and the beings who live there. And it was published 100 like the difference was that this one was published as if it were true, like literally. So apparently according to the Library of Congress blogs, the British astronomer, Sir John Herschel had followed in the footsteps of his father, William, who's also an astronomer who had always said there was life on the moon, and he had actually gone and discovered it. So the articles came from the perspective of somebody called Andrew Grant, who was an astronomer on Herschel's expedition. They went down to South Africa. It's like a series of articles that was published in installments in the paper.

And it told a story of how they went to South Africa and Herschel had this new telescope that he made up, which was true, except in the story, it's like he used a microscope and like flipped it around, which is like not what happened. Alex, can you give me a South African? This is like pure cosmic horror. Like on the moon, there's like a shapeless body.

And I used technology that I like read about in a scientific journal of the time which now looking back is like oh you just you held a magnifying glass did you okay literally literally what did you say mr. I said give me a South African accent oh you guys district 9 it dude hey bro yeah I'm gonna hear that shit go to fucking get a fucking alien What's that movie called district nine? I don't have a good South African accent That's a hard one. What's that actor's name? I love him, and I can't oh

God, Charlto Copley. Yes Yeah, Charlto Copley shoutouts has a great South African accent and a great name. Yeah, I think he is South African, right? Yes. Yeah, he is. Yeah. So they're in South Africa. They're looking through a telescope at the fucking moon.

He's seeing you quote unicorn like creatures running through the lunar fort lunar forests, mini bison beavers that walk on two legs, staff, fire, sapphire studded volcanic cliffs on an island beach all on the moon, and these stories are just like spreading like wildfire, they're getting more and more popular. The public starts to take hold of it as truth, and by the fourth story they found intelligent bat-winged humanoids that fly around, and even more weird stuff kept being uncovered until eventually the telescope caught on fire and they couldn't use it anymore Anyway, here's Davis as the Grinch with a quote from one of these articles

You can use whatever version of the Grinch you want How did Jim Carrey give me a give me a read Christmas hey like a lot of s H's first I hate Christmas. Hey, like a lot of S.H. is for his ass. Just a little piece of piece. It's not going to be good, but in the shade of the woods on the southeastern side, we beheld it's kind of like Scottish. I don't know. We beheld continuous herds of brown quadrupeds,

having all the external characteristics of the bison, but more diminutive than any species of the boss genus in our natural history. Its tail is like that of our boss grunius, grunians? Its semicircular horns, the hump on its shoulder, and the, I'm losing the voice. Sorry. Hold on to it, Grinch. And the depth of its doulap, these are like real words,

and the length of its shaggy hair. It closely resembled the species to which I first compared it. It had, however, one widely distinctive feature, which we afterwards found common to nearly every lunar quadruped we had discovered, namely a remarkable fleshy appendage over the eyes, crossing the whole breadth of the forehead and united to the ears. We could most distinctly perceive this hairy veil, which was shaped like the upper front outline of a cap, known to the ladies as Mary Queen of Scott's cap, lifted and lowered by means of the ears. It immediately occurred to the acute mind of Dr. Herschel that this was a

providential contrivance to protect the eyes of the animal from the great extremes of light and darkness, to which all the inhabitants of our side of the moon are periodically subjected." So there's like a little bit of science that convinces you of things. You're like, it makes sense that every animal on the moon would develop a visor because of the sun. It makes sense. But the hoax kind of fell apart

with the back to bat winged humans. Everybody kind of felt like it jumped the shark at that point. People were already kind of on it. Why would you need wings on the moon if there's very little gravity? Because they don't know. They

don't understand. They don't. It's before that time when you could. When that was like a thing that people were thinking about. And, don't know they don't understand. They know it's before that time when you could do when that was like a thing that people were thinking about. And, you know, they found everything else just believable enough, even though it seemed kind of weird. But like there was details that were really real, like Herschel actually was in South Africa. Right. So like nobody could reach him for comment because it was

like the 1800s. So like that was like a great detail of the story. And other papers like picked up the story and then ran it in their paper. So a lot of the people who heard the story weren't even getting it from the primary source, which was like another layer of believability to it, right? Because now you're reading it in the voice of your normal newspaper that you expect. But in the end, there were enough calls of hoax at that point that like, oops, the telescope is on fire. So there's no more. Sorry. Oops. No more stories because it caught on fire. That's unfortunate. And so lots of people thought that the author was this British guy, Richard Adams Locke, and he was actually accused of it by several publications because it was totally him.

And here's Davis as Cindy Lou Who from The Grinch. I just don't remember the Grinch voices. So sorry. She's just a little girl. She's just a little girl, my man. Just be a little girl. Okay. I beg to state as unequivocally as the words can express it, I did not make those discoveries. And it's my sincere conviction founded on a careful examination of the internal evidence of the work in which they first appeared, that if made at all, they were made by the great astronomer to whom all Europe, if not an incredulous America, will undoubtedly ascribe them." Yeah, so that was a great job. Also not exactly a denial, right?

But then Poe wrote a story after this, Ed Graal and Poe called the Great Balloon Hoax, which was like based on the Great Moon Hoax. And the whole thing came like full circle. So now you can read the story as fiction attributed to Richard Adam Locke. Like you can like buy this book now as a story. So we can say this case is closed. And now let's talk about that gift. Davis, you were the guy who picked this time, so you can click this link to unwrap the gift, hopefully. Oh, god. It is a 3D Galaxy Crystal Ball nightlight

for kids with colorful LED light base, color changing light with remote as birthday gift for teen boys and girls moon model yo that's actually awesome yeah you get this what yeah this is tight it's like a light up moon orb very very nice he just made his day telling you right it's christmas dude christmas special wow he's santa yeah okay so there you go That's that's the great moon hoax. Enjoy that gift. Next one. And I'll put the I guess I'll put the gift links in the show notes. You can see them. Is that weird? I don't know. been working with Hero Forge for almost a year, might be full year at this point, and we'll be working together now for the next year. I adore Hero Forge, I have been using them well before we ever started working together, and if you're a nerd like me who plays tabletop RPGs, whether in person or you just like to make a model of your character, Hero Forge is where you want to go for that. You can even head over there now and just model out your character totally free. You don't

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Number 5. I'll write down the ones that we've said. Yeah. Number 5 is get ready for it. I'm ready. Balloon Boy! We all remember. Like calling on Five Nights at Freddy's? No, we all remember 2009 Super Sensation Balloon Boy, right?

Richard Heaney and his wife Mayumi were demo reel producers in Hollywood. Heaney couldn't cut it in show business, but he was always hustling. He eventually became an amateur storm chaser and UFO investigator. And he often took his young kids Falcon, Bradfordford and Rio out on expeditions with him and filmed it So they were on wife's walk twice. Yeah, Falcon was one of his name. I got a balance Bradford and Rio Falcon

California Bradford He got a short on the stick there It's kind of a cool name, but next to Rio and Falcon, dude Yeah, Rio is crazy. Rio is RYO too. So it might be Rio. I don't know. Bradford is the one that was like, you have to name one of them after your great grandfather. The oil industry.

You named the last kid Falcon. It's gonna be named after Grandpa. Okay. Falcon is my favorite bird. They were on Wiveswap twice. He and he talked about Jupiter's standing style alien lore That's the grandpa. Okay. Falcon is my favorite bird. They were on Wiveswap twice. He and he talked about Jupiter standing style alien lore in his like confessionals.

And he talked about launching homemade flying saucers into storms. He even pitched his own show to network the science detectives PSI, which is like a documentary science mystery investigation show. And another reality show which TLC passed on. Though maybe at one point something was even in development I don't know but anyway he had this like prototype helium UFO vehicle that he made that he said

had 1 million volts going around the outside of it it's made from plastic tarps and aluminum foil string duct tape and had plywood cardboard box base there was like a little helium assembly on there he was testing it and when he flew it this day it reached like 7,000 feet in the air but this was a test that actually was supposed to just be like a tethered test and there's actually home video footage of him being like you didn't fucking tie it down what the fuck it like goes up into the air random question about electricity. Sure.

Is it amps or voltage that's deadly? Isn't only one. I don't know shit about fuck. AC, DC, dude. That's just a ban, bro. I don't I don't know that it would have been lethal just based on like what this story was while it was occurring. But like, I don't know. I would guess. I just saw a video of a guy get stabbed by lightning twice. So.

Anything's possible yeah so this balloon takes off on october 15 2009 I think it like I don't know like early in the day something like noonish or something like that I don't know exactly um it shot way up high in the air and then he noticed his falcon is missing and everything goes to shit super quick. So some people say their first call was to the FAA, which is what they said and what the sheriff first said. But then later the sheriff took that back and said they had no confirmation that they ever called the FAA.

And then either way, the very next person that was called was NBC. And then after NBC was called, then 911 was called. Then the balloon drifted for 60 miles. Planes were diverted around this balloon that was up over a mile in the air. Two hours later, the balloon lands 12 miles north of Denver Airport.

Falcon wasn't inside, and after the initial panic that he fell out, less than three hours later, he was found hiding in a cardboard box in the rafters of his garage for a waste of about $40,000 in search funds. Pretty soon, people were kind of wondering, is it a hoax? Was it intentional? Was it a mistake? What was going on there? But later on Larry King Live, Wolf Blitzer was on and he asked Falcon why he didn't come out of the garage. And his parents were like, Falcon, why didn't you come out of the garage? And he was like, quote, he said,

you guys said that we did this for the show. And then things got like super weird. And then the next day he went on Good Morning America and he went on Today. And on both shows he vomited because of the same topic being brought up. And so people were like, this kid is being coached. Experts concluded the balloon could have never lifted the kid.

There's most likely an intentional hoax. Here's Davis as a cute little elf with a quote from the sheriff right here. Bang. Oh, didn't that not send bang. There we go. We believe we have evidence at this point to indicate that this was a publicity stunt in hopes to better market themselves for a reality show So yeah, that's exactly what happens They end up pleading guilty though later like in 2019 or something they added to the story That the plan was that he was supposed to be in the basement

But then he went in the rafters though even though he was hiding on purpose and then we did do a hoax We didn't know where he was and we purpose and then we did do a hoax We didn't know where he was and we really were scared and it really was hard for us So I don't know if that's true or not. I'm not trying to make fun of them It's just it feels like a fucking you can you can make fun of these people. It feels like a fake story I I don't know Who wants a present who picked this Mathis? Did they get sued was there any any? Yeah. Yeah, dude.

Totally. They pled guilty in court. Like I said, the whole it all went down. But it was a I remember this, actually. I do. When when the kid was when you brought the kid hiding, I was like, oh, I do. This is why you don't do hoaxes with kids. Yeah, I watched it live. Yeah, I watched it live

Letter boy balloons 40 inch gold big extra-large foil giant jumbo helium mylar aluminum alphabet balloon with straw for birthday party Decorations gold boy, so this is a so this is a pun gift But it's also like for your like background of your set. Yeah, it's literally balloons of the word boy. Fantastic. Could ask for better. It's the goal. It's gold. Gold letters. Boy in three balloons. B.O.Y. Coming your way. Did you say that he got pardoned? Do you see that part? Yeah, he did get pardoned, but it all went down and he was

revealed. He was like, I hoaxed. Why the hell in 2020 did he get pardoned by the governor? Probably because the governor was some piece of shit. And then after he got pardoned, he was like, no, no, it was real. I was forced to say that it was. Dude, not tight people. Jesse. Yeah?

It comes to you, the advent calendar calendar that's not an advent calendar. Five is gone, two is gone, one through seven. You got one, three, four, six or seven. Lucky number seven. Lucky number seven. The Taxel hoax. Do you guys know about the Taxel hoax? Have you heard about this? Taxes are hoax. Have you heard about this? Have you seen this? Yeah. Good luck not paying them. taxes are hoax. Have you heard about this? Have you seen this?

Yeah. Good luck not paying them. Have you heard this? Have you heard this? So this was in the 1890s. This was like a hoax that was like done. The point of it was like to put awareness on something, if you know what I'm saying. So like this is like a social hoax.

And it was the it was it was this guy Leo Taxel, who was trying to blow up Freemasonry and also how dumb it was that the Catholic Church was like against Freemasonry. So the vibe was like Freemasonry is like silly and the Catholic Church is silly. Yeah. So Taxel is like he wrote this like stuff that was like anti papacy at first, but then he like made this big deal where he like converts to Catholicism, writes a bunch of books about it, like in service to Catholicism. And he tells the story of Dr. Bataille, who's a surgeon in the French merchant navy, who goes into the Freemasons and observes their rituals. And so now he's writing a story about,

as a guy who is inside the Catholic Church, pretending to be Catholic, he's writing about a guy who's going into the French Navy as a Freemason, like pretending to be a Freemason. So it's like a parallel. And then he's talking about all the evil shit that they do. And he's talking about how like the Buddhists

and the Hindus and the spiritualists join up with the Freemasons and they team up in the vampire war type stuff against the Catholic Church. And then there's an even more secret order inside the Masons called the Pallidists who are like they like are like what do you call it? Like conjugating with demons, like communicating with demons. And smooching him even. He brings up, yeah, he invents this character named Diana Vaughn, who is a former priestess who also from the demonic sect, the paladins. What was her name? Diana Vaughn. Liana Voss? What the hell? Her name is Diana Vaughn. You can find pictures of her online. What the hell? Her name is Diana Vaughn. You can find pictures of her online.

But she said she was a high priestess of paladism who converted to Catholicism and then they're like trying to kill her. Like the Masons are after her. So then at the end of all this, Taxel has a press conference. He says, all right, we're going to show Diana Vaughn, we're going to like present her. But instead he was like, actually, this was all lies. Thank you assholes for blowing up this stupid ass story. You all look dumb as fuck. I thought you guys were better than this. I have a quote for Davis to read, which he can read as I think I want you to do it as the narrator Like as if it rhymes but like it doesn't rhyme

You know what I mean? Like you're reading towards the night before Christmas, but you just don't worry about the rhyming. Yeah, holy shit Yeah, this one's a long one. Sorry. This is a great quote The public made me what I am the arch-liar of the period for when I first commenced to write the arch-liar of the period. For when I first commenced to write against the masons, my object was amusement, pure and simple. The crimes I laid at their door were so grotesque, so impossible, so widely exaggerated, I thought everybody would see the joke

and give me credit for originating a new line of humor. But my readers wouldn't have it so. They accepted my fables as gospel truth. And the more I lied for the purpose of showing that I lied, the more convinced became they that I was a paragon of truth. That kind of made it rhyme. I changed it. I had to realize it was ferocity.

Then it dawned upon me that there was lots of money in being a Munchausen of the right kind. that there was lots of money in being a munchausen of the right kind, and for twelve years I gave it to them hot and strong, but never too hot. When indicting such slush as the story of the Devil Snake who wrote prophecies on Diana's back with the end of its tale, I sometimes said to myself, hold on, you are going too far, but I didn't. My readers even took kindly to the yarn of the devil who, in order to marry a mason, transformed himself into a crocodile, and despite the masquerade, played the piano wonderfully

well. Does that sound like I'm rhyming, but it's not? I like what's happening here. I want to know what the piano playing crocodile was like. There's just so much nonsense in this. You could just read this for hours. Or only halfway through. One day when lecturing at Lyle, I told my audience that I had just had an apparition of Nautilus, the most daring affront on human credulity that I had so far risked, but my hearers never turned a hair?

Hear ye the doctor has seen Nautilus, they said with admiring glances. Of course no one had a clear idea of who Nautilus was. I didn't myself, but they assumed that he was a devil. Ah, the jolly evenings I spent with my fellow authors, hatching out new plots, new unheard of perversions of truth and logic, each trying to outdo the other in organized mystification. I thought I would kill myself laughing at some of the things proposed, but everything went. There is no limit to human stupidity.

That is the Taxel hoax. Leo Taxel is the pen name of Marie Joseph Gabrielle Antoine Yogan Pagais. But everybody knows him as Leo Taxel. Pretty funny shit. Thank God that doesn't happen anymore. Pretty funny shit. Yeah. I don't know anybody who does anything like that.

A Munchhausen of the right? What is Munchhausen? Of the right? No, it wasn't a Munchhausen of the right. It was you like, it was a Munchhausen of the right kind. Oh, of the right, no it wasn't a Munchausen of the right. It was you like, it was a Munchausen of the right kind. You just. Oh, of the right kind, sorry. What is Munch, I thought Munchausen is like a disease

where you pretend you have? Yeah, yeah, you're like, you think you have or pretend you have an illness or any number of things. Oh, okay. And then Munchausen by proxy is when you do it to your child essentially. So he was being sick. So he's saying it dawned on me that there's a lot of money in like being lying

Yeah, okay that that lesson hasn't been Guys, it's 2024. We are past that okay. Yeah, we have a species move past that lying for profit I'm not doing this specifically because of the right but there wasn't there a whole thing We're like they like a whole right-wing media sphere got found that Russian Money was like intended used millions of dollars was infused into them I'm just turning facts and you're incorrect in pool like the Tim pool circle. Yeah, yeah Today doesn't happen today No, and then doesn't happen on this show either Jesse. Here's a present for you. I'm so excited

Oh, I hope I get a book on munch munch munch munch munch house and No, this one's one of the six ones I want actually generally want this so bad what are you an assassin now folding Masonic pocket knife 5.75 inch closed three and a half inch blade knife when partially opened, it forms the shape of a compass square Masonic symbol, gift for men for hunting, camping, fishing, hiking, etc. Yes, stop this. If you, I'm not a big guy that supports hunting, but if you like, go toe to toe with a bear with this, I kind of almost respect it. I want to go toe to toe with a man with this and when I pull it I was like, he's a mason. And I'll be like, that's right fool, 33rd degree.

And he'd be like, don't use your brain magic. And I'd be like, I won't. Yeah. All right. So we're back around to Davis. Damn it. Seven was my next one. I'm like bummed at this.

So we got. I'll bring it to the office and look at it. Two, five and seven. You got one three four or six left. Uh I'm gonna go just one just to not just to nip that in the bud number one right in the bud the jackalope Here we go. So we all know what the jackalope is, right? Yeah If you don't just to get us started according to legends of America calm The jackalope is a species of rabbit found mainly in the areas surrounding modern day Wyoming in the United States, which happened to have the unlikely added physical feature of antlers on its head right in front of its long rabbit

ears that look just like the ones that come on a deer, but just tiny. This is like a whole thing, right? Aren't there like, spinoffs of this? Oh, there's all, yes, yes. But the jackalope is the OG. People who believe in the jackalope today say it's one of the rarest animals in the world, that it may even be extinct now. But every once in a while you still get a sighting like this one in a small town that I've actually visited in Chugwater, Wyoming.

I'm going to send you the link to this picture. I went to Chugwater, Wyoming when I was young, when I was driving from like Denver, Colorado to Rapid City, South Dakota, because I was going to go see Mount Rushmore and Crazy Horse. And Chugwater, Wyoming was like a town that had seven people in it. And they had like a chili stand. And my dad bought a fucking like he bought like a what do you call those things like a apron from like the like general store there that he wore for like 15 years after that I'm chug water, Wyoming How about that? So shout out just a shout out to the cryptids wiki. It's always like so good It's so good. This picture is not so good though No, no, not all the pictures are great, but it has a depth of like cryptid list that very few places have I

Immediately got distracted by a thing called a jenglot and clicked on it and it is scary What do you think what do you think of that picture the of the jackalope oh, I'll go back That's like exactly AI I Definitely feel like I've seen a Bunch of this yeah, they're they're vicious creatures They can run up to 90 miles an hour, perfectly mimic the sound of human voices around a campfire. Some people even refer to them as, quote,

warrior rabbits because of how much scary they can be than your guardian variety, lagomorph, since, you know, this one's- Dude, just look at the jackrabbit. Those things are like, the buffest. Yeah, well this one's supposedly crossed with a pygmy deer, so that's why they're so fierce. So the jackalope, as we know today,

was first mentioned by John Coulter in the pre-Wyoming zone of the Old West. But they've been around for a while and like legends and stuff. And they even have similar things like the Wolpertinger in Germany and the Skvader in Sweden. The Wolpertinger I know of. Yeah. And there's pictures of creatures in this vein that go all the way back to the 1500s in art and stuff like that.

But the Jackalope, as we know it today, is almost exclusively seen as a taxidermied item. And that's where our hoax comes in all because of a man called Douglas Herrick from a town called, I kid you not, Douglas, Wyoming, in the year 1939. Here's Michael Davis as Phil Hartman's character, Ted Malton, from one of us millennials favorite Christmas movies, jingle all the way with a quote from Legends of America. I'm going to try I'm not going to do justice but the whole thing began after Douglas and his brother Ralph it's going to what's his face

it's an impression I had returned from hunting one day when Ralph threw a dead jack rabbit on the floor of the shop it slid right up against a pair of deer horns. When Ralph declared that it looked like a rabbit with horns on it, Douglas, a taxidermist, decided to mount it. From there, the mounted jackalope was born and the pair of brothers began to sell him to the public. Before long, they could be found everywhere, in homes and taverns all over the American West. At the same time, jackalope postcards became a popular Western souvenir. The Jackalopes of Douglas, Wyoming became so popular that by the late 1940s, the city had proclaimed itself as the Jackalope Capital of the World, promoting the self-proclaimed

title in brochures and other tourism advertising. In 1965, an eight-foot concrete statue was erected in downtown Douglas and today billboards and jackalope images can be seen all over Douglas on park benches, fire trucks, motel signs, and a 13-foot tall jackalope cut out on a hillside. The city is also very good at about warning visitors of the vicious animals propensity to attack so tourists will see a number of posted warning signs throughout the town. watch out for the jackalope I feel like you would laugh at the end sure yeah, I feel that I'm so

safely under our tree family uh And that's really only the beginning of this they have a whole jackalope day with all kinds of weird events like mud volleyball mini monster truck fucking greased pig run all kinds of shit the like mud volleyball, mini monster truck, fucking greased pig run, all kinds of shit that issue hunting licenses for jackalopes and the dude is like a little legend I love the idea that the ultimate like prey animal has a like messiah or like the like aggressive one like a lion-eyed version

but that it still is just like shit compared to like a hunting rifle well you wanna know something crazy though? so in real life there's rabbits that are stricken with the Shope papillomavirus that often grow horn-like growths. It's like a weird symptom of the first ever discovered virus-induced cancer in non-human mammals. And the research done on this virus eventually led to the HPV anti-cancer vaccine. So that's pretty crazy.

What? Yeah. Really, really quickly, really quickly. This may be because I have what? Five, six years on you guys. This may be a people my age vibe, but in the early, early nineties 91 92 93 America's funniest people which used to have not Uncle Jesse but the other guy from Full House Robert what's his name? The blonde dude who I believe is the one that Alanis Morissette singing about that song about like Dave Coulier. So he did

that show. What? He just got diagnosed with cancer. I think that's what that song's about, by the way. The song where she like hates on the dude. Yeah. Anyway, that is 100% correct. In this show, they used to have a bit every so often where the jackalope would show up. And I think that's why a significant number of people who are like early eighties babies, no jackalopes is because they had a whole you can like Google it look at like Jackalope America's Funniest People and they would do segments where it was like a stuffed little cute Jackalope

guy and he would like cause trouble like a gremlin but his voice was like oh jeez guys we're gonna go over here. I remember this motherfucker. That's all I can think of when I think of the Jackalope. Yeah like those bits. So you're talking about that little Woody woodchuck puppet that he used to have on yeah kind of yeah except it Imagines a jackalope and they'd be like oh and the jackal like steel male and the mailman It's like oh, but he's like I'm done. Talk us to the bone like it's you know I've never been have you ever been so one of you has been one of you's been to wall drug right? What wall drug no? One of you has been to Wall Drug, right? What?

Wall Drug? No. Well, that's where I first saw the Jackalope and it was in that taxidermy form and it was very much in that area of the country and it's a really crazy place. It's like a huge, kind of roadside attraction sort of tourist trappy, sort of big market with like a bunch of

attractions. There's like a big T-Rex all this crazy shit, but it always reminds me of the Jackalope and who picked number one? Me! Alright here you go here's your gift. Dude am I about to get a fucking taxidermy Jackalope? Dude. Hold on. I'm so excited. Oh I am! Jackalope mount Taxidermy Animal Head Wall Decor Deer Head Wall Mount Resin Deer Head Animal Wall Mount for Home Decor This is like shitty SEO optimization Correct yes, you're getting a jackalope they're getting the resin deer head search people in there, too Yeah, all those guys that are looking for those resin that that immediately will for like ping anybody.H.H.H.H.H.H.H.H.H.H.H.H.H.H.H.H.H.H.H.H.H.H.H.H.H.H.H.H.H.H.H.H.H.H.H.H.H.H.H.H.H.H.H.H.H.H.H.H.H.H.H.H.H.H.H.H.H.H.H.H.H.H.H.H.H.H.H.H.H.H.H.H.H.H.H.H.H.H.H.H.H.H.H.H.H.H.H.H.H.H.H.H.H.H.H.H.H.H.H.H.H.H.H.H.H.H.H.H.H.H.H.H.H.H.H.H.H.H.H.H.H.H.H.H.H.H.H.H.H.H.H.H.H.H.H.H.H.H.H.H.H.H.H.H.H.H.H.H.H.H.H.H.H.H.H.H.H.H.H.H.H.H.H.H.H.H.H.H.H.H.H.H.H.H.H.H.H.H.H.H.H.H.H.H.H.H.H.H.H.H.H.H.H.H.H.H.H.H.H.H.H.H.H.H.H.H.H.H.H.H. is the Hitler Diaries.

Mathis, you get a copy of my cup! Yeah! Hey! I ate everything that's with the cup. And you're on a list now! I know, excellent. In April of 1983, Stern Magazine from Germany, which was basically as big as like Live for Time or whatever for Germans, held this press conference

in the 80s, like I said. they were like, yo, this is crazy. Hitler's diaries got lost in a plane crash in 1945. But now that we found them, it's like, boom, completely different Hitler than we thought. He likes poetry. He was talking about farting. Legit. He was talking about like how he farts, how Averbronn was like, oh, my wife thinks I have bad breath. He's talking about her pregnancy, how he struggled and just like the general notion that he was really overly sensitive, which then eventually like balloons to like. And he didn't even really know what was happening to the Jews. And so it's like, oh, OK.

And so it turns out two weeks later, obviously, they're fakes. And it's just a big con job written by this forger guy named Konrad Kujow According to one still living editor-in-chief from the time or at least he wasn't the time being interviewed Felix Schmidt in May of 1981 a missing sleuth journalist and a well-known Nazi merch collector Nazi socializer and daughter of Hermann Göring Dater Gerd Heidemann shows up after a disappearance with a half dozen notebooks that are supposedly Hitler's diaries and is dealing with the publisher in secret after being handed the books by a high ranking GDR officer, actually thrown through his window from one moving car to another in secrecy, who found them in possession of farmers local to the plane crash where

they found them, which I mentioned earlier, which was in Dresden. And apparently there's more where that came from. So they spend millions buying and verifying this shit to the tune of nine point three million for 60 volumes of Hitler's diaries, which are all shown to all kinds of experts from New York to Bern. But because they have to maintain total secrecy and not let anybody know what's happening, it really limits who they can talk to and what they can do. Limits the process. Right. So they think can talk to and what they can do limits the process, right?

So they think these things are legit as they're buying them, but within days of the press conference, the first time anybody gets to look at these fucking things, independent sources are like, these aren't just fakes, these are like shitty, these are like obvious bad fakes. On the front of them, it used the wrong symbol and it's like actually all of them say FH on them instead of AH

Like simple things simple things so maybe he had a little pet name for himself. Nope. It's fake It was friendly Hitler F. They're like this is embarrassing Yeah, is that the book I'm getting your best friend Hitler. Yep. So Heidemann's gone They track him down to Munich. He finally reveals his source is Konrad Fischer, who's actually Konrad Conjo, and they both go to jail. The editors have to resign, obviously, because they made such a fucking bad call. It was a huge scandal. And according to the New Yorker and social psychologist, Harold Welser, a large reason this happened was that this generation in German psyche, like the time, the 80s, it was like a time when the generation was reckoning a lot with being the place that Hitler and the Nazis came from and like kind of trying to deal with that.

And luckily, that kind of thing has seemed like kind of cleared up recently more like I don't think that current Germans are thinking about that that much. And it will never happen again. Right. Never. Right. Right. Germans are thinking about that that much and it will never happen again right Jeremy right right Anyway never repeat itself anyway whose whose gift me Mathis's gift said that so maybe it's Jojo rabbit on blu-ray it could be it could be that I've never seen that movie. It's not

Secret Hitler that's a great game. That is a great game. Yeah, man. Holy shit Do you not already have that no? No, I played in a ton online with Jesse and TB and all them for you know years Yeah, I imagine you meant this is like the board game connoisseur. No computer games. No I respect it. Yeah, I'm a video But I like complicated board I like the board games that take like eight hours to play through yeah The secret is basically just werewolf, but it's just fun in another way because it's also very beautiful But yeah, congrats. Thank you. All right excited to get that Jesse's turn right number six

number six number six Congrats. Thank you. All right. Excited to get that. Jesse's turn, right? Number six. Number six. Number six. Number six. Give me like new top five. Number six. Number six. There it is. Number six.

Crop circles. I can't wait to do that one day, by the way. Crop circles. So everybody knows about crop circles. They were a big thing in the 80s and the 90s. They were like almost like I would say like a fad almost. Right. And it was kind of like this. Is it like a meme? It was.

It was literally like a spreading like the Stussy. It was like a fucking the mystery as we want to call it. It's like literally, you know what they are like crops flattened in like geometric circular patterns. You've probably seen them. You can Google the phrase crop circles. You'll probably be like, oh, those fucking things. It was all over the place, US and Japan and some stuff too, but mainly it was in the UK,

and nobody could figure out how it was happening, and there was like TV specials and all this crazy shit going on about it for like a while. Alan Anderson in Science said that there was like some talk of aliens in magic, but like mostly that's not what people were thinking about. They were talking about hoaxers, staking out fields, rigging circle targets with motion sensors, all this stuff that they were trying to do to like catch people. But some were like sloppy and were like not quite the thing that was the real deal. But there was just enough of the real deal that people were starting to get mind blown about it a little bit.

And originally they thought it was weather was the best thing, like a tornado or something that did it in some sort of Fibonacci type situation. But that's not really what they look like if you look at them. The style of them could not be natural. And a lot of people really bend over backwards to make this start happening. And then the US also starts to get them, and the US has tornadoes. Maybe that's what it is. But then Doug Bauer and Dave Chorley just confess to doing it.

It's really embarrassing because it's so easy. Here's a quote from an article in Science from 1991 about how it's done that Davis is gonna do in the voice of like like Mrs. Claus like a gentle old like Mrs. Claus like on the night of Christmas after Santa's back from his like big long journey. It's done by pushing down the crop with a plank suspended from two ropes. To render the depression circular is a simple matter of keeping an anchored rope taut. I soon found that I could make a sophisticated pattern

with very neat edges in less than an hour. Yeah, pretty crazy. And also you really was like, that was very Robin Williams-y, can I say? Yeah, a little doubtful. I was just trying to be like, after he's like worked his ass off, just like you did a great job. Yeah, so you rub your back

the thing that The thing that was interesting about it was that like This this type of thing Spread longer than it needed to because the experts that were consulted before the hoax was revealed the experts that were consulted before the hoax was revealed were so embarrassed by the fact that they had been duped that they kept going on fucking TV shows and trying to offer other explanations of how it could be done or what they were to like prolong the thing happening like genuinely that's what happened so like it's really weird to see how in like later eras, media comes in and like can scoop up a hoax and run with it for like other

motivations than why the hoax was started. Other people just like jumping on the hoax for like other like weird goals. Are you saying that they're munchousens of the right kind in order to make money? Wait, so could, could you extrapolate that to the reason why we're seeing more and more Drone stuff on TV is because they're like it gets ratings Well, let's like offer theories and talk about it when really they don't particularly care like if tomorrow they stop covering it

They'd find something else to be like this is very important as well Exactly. I will say though while they did definitely hoax a bunch, there's a bunch of studies showing their crop circles versus a bunch of others, and theirs are not perfectly aligned the way their wheat bends breaks the wheat, which a bunch of other crop circles don't do. And it doesn't take into account the woven crop circles. I don't know if you've seen woven crop circles before, but they literally the wheat is woven like like a fucking blanket to create these designs. So like they definitely did a bunch.

And you can actually see, I think, in 1993, like news thing where they actually go out and do it, like they show how they do it. But also it doesn't explain a lot of the other like more complicated ones out there. I'm sure like those guys just thought of one and then everybody else started Like well, I'm gonna riff off that and do kind of something else. I must I'm could I just say really quickly The best part about having a video version of this is for everyone at home

What you got what you what you just saw if you're on patreon is mathis give like guys Not all of them are fake okay there's potential that some of them could be real anyway like hold on let me take a quick hit of this real quick like no matter what you say once you say it immediately going to weed is hilarious like guys it keeps me grounded in the no yeah there's definitely like a crop circle episode worth having like it's a big topic in the show but I did do a ton of them like the top overnight and just go to people's farms yeah in a top day of hoaxes you got a lot of I did I was unaware of the Japanese ones did you see

the the ones I'm seeing they have like forest crop circles and it actually looks like an alien terrain they do something with the trees that makes it look like it's a star wars planet. I want to find uh, here it is This is the one of the weirder ones out there This is I guess the i'll just use this link because it's easier Okay, no way No, no, that's real no way for every year years ago, and that's a binary code that people were able to decode It's just funny cuz it was part of the dark light energy It looks a little bit like a pixel art alien though, which is why it does it does it look like a dot matrix

Kind of like printout kind of yeah like oh, I like that one fuck There's like my crazy thing is there's so many other ones on here. They're like Fascinatingly cooler. And this one just looks like some guy's LinkedIn photo. So funny. It was taken with a Game Boy camera. He's like, it's like his little like, it's like a school picture almost. Man, this is like, sick.

I don't know. I don't know what they like thought about how they were trying to sell people on like aliens and crop circles like but at this point it's like art at least at this point it looks sick this is like tides but are destroy the crops like 100% sure okay the farmers are like okay so I'm gonna sue you probably but unless I don't know some crop circles don't yeah, there's a whole episode there for sure yeah But Jesse open this present Yeah, I am so I must stress to you. I just got a whole bunch of colored pencils, so I'm very excited

crop circles coloring book number one Nice by shapes of wisdom sick Sick coloring book I'm super thankful for this yes, okay, and that leaves us with one last one Goddamnit for Davis book is like what I do on my own, but way better Fucking kidding I'm gonna have to order And then look at it uh oh Are you fucking kidding me? I'm gonna have to order, I'm gonna bookmark this. Take some mushrooms and then look at it. Uh, oh.

Is my computer gonna crash? Nope, we're all good. I just lost my mouse for a second, it's all good. That's fine. Iron mouse. Yeah, no worries. Uh, the last one is for Davis. Regardless of whether he can pick it or not. Number three. Yeah, number three. William H. Mummler. So now this one is a hoax without a specific answer, which is kind of interesting.

But how do we know it's a hoax? Well, we'll get into that in just a moment. We're just going to do it in just a moment. In October 1860 in Boston, the photographer James Wallace Black and the balloonist Samuel Archer King are in a hot air balloon over Boston taking the first ever aerial photograph of anything ever taken in the United States. Pretty amazing picture. You just check it out. It's just it's not that really relevant to our story, but it's there. Pretty cool.

Two years later, Black is back on the ground remembering the billowing inflating balloon as his client is asking him if he knows of any photographic trick that could explain the spirit photographs that he had seen from a man called William H. Mummler, who had earned himself a reputation for photographing the dead. Here is a picture. This is from a balloon? Yeah, that overhead picture of Boston. It looks like a miniature set. I know, right? And it looks like a helicarrier in the back left is crashing into it. That? I can't explain that. That's another mystery. But there is a picture of what these mummler photographs look like you kind of describe them there I mean, this is kind of why it's like they're obviously hoaxes because just look at it

But it's like nobody could fucking tell how he did it Yeah, how a blinkin is just there. It doesn't Yeah, it's like her remembering a It's really funny that you should say that because I will get to that a minute anyway have I have a guess Yeah, he said because like yeah, but the head looks like it's like superimposed But the body aspect almost looks like he laid cloth out like in a specific spot before taking because the fingers look weird And the body isn't really detailed, but the head is like very detailed comparatively. That's how I feel too, but it feels like Mr. Burns when he's the alien, but it I don't really know how like photography works, but is there a potential of like doing some darkroom?

I bet you could just, yeah, there's a potential over a photo, you know? Well, but basically, so here what he does is he sends his assistant in for a sitting, the aerial photographer, like blind, like the guy doesn't know he's the assistant, but he basically what happens is he susses it out of him and he comes back shaken with a picture of himself with a ghost of his dead father. And he's like, I have no idea how he did it. He just took a normal fucking picture. I don't know what the fuck.

It's fucking crazy. I have no idea. And here's Davis as Santa Claus with a quote from the assistant. Ho, ho, ho. When I went back, they all came around me to hear my report. And when I told them that I had got a second form on the negative, but had seen nothing different in the manipulation from taking an ordinary picture, they shouted with laughter, ha ha if you will allow him the same privilege of witnessing the operation that you did me and he gets a spirit Form on the negative he will give you $50. Oh, oh, oh

Yes, there you go Santa Claus everybody. He accepts the challenge and goes down there Absolutely skeptical, but he goes through the entire process, observing everything, giving the dude zero credit, and he comes out shocked. Quote, wonder stricken eyes as the ghost of his dead father had seemingly appeared with his hand on his shoulder. He saw every step of the process. He saw nothing that this guy could have been doing as far as he understood photography.

It blew his mind away. Eventually, as you will see- Can you like photograph like through a negative? Like could he have like put it in the thing and it's- I have no idea. I have no idea what he did. That's what I thought based on the image that we saw is that he literally just photographed over a photograph. Because you can see posing person in the photo that we have, there's a woman sitting in a

chair and a man standing, but they're both clearly separated on sides of the image. So that's like a really easy way to make sure the other person doesn't like overlap with that person. Right. Exactly. I mean, I don't know exactly how it worked, but the story of this guy's like ability to do this went so far that Mary Todd Lincoln actually did come to this fucking guy and asked to see a picture of... This is her right here. And for decades, it was a complete mystery how Mumler did this until he revealed later that he had this thing called the, quote, Mumler process, which was a new method of printing photographs directly to newsprint that revealed

that he had like a genius level mastery of image manipulation and he was like developing new actively developing new processes for transits transferring images. It's very likely to deduce how he did something like this. So something that he did in the dark room was probably something that happened and he was actually taken to court for fraud and larceny by P. by PT Barnum at one point, but he was acquitted And my PT fucking Barnum. I know of all people Which is fucking funny, but yeah, not yours. Yeah, he's like is it cuz he wouldn't tell him how he fucking did it Something like that. I really I really don't know exactly like what the circumstances were

I didn't look into it too far, but it is like extremely ironic. Is this Lincoln picture you sent real? Yeah. I cannot believe from that first picture that we would actually get like Spirit Goku Abraham Lincoln. That's exactly what it is. And here's your here's your little prezzy. Oh, is it a picture of me with Spirit Lincoln? That'd be hilarious. If it's anything else, I want to be highly disappointed. Why won't this let me copy this link? Oh be hilarious if it's anything else I'm gonna be highly disappointed why won't this let me go that's useful for us specific don't spoil it I can't get it to like highlight the text emf meter handheld digital LCD emf detector ghost hunting fuck you equipment tests for a home office and outdoor inspections I guess is it time we just do a crossover

when we go fucking let's do it places Very game squad ex Chiluminati ghost hunt. They're house squad. If you get scared, I'll give you my switchblade my new Go scary game squad. I have to be I Have squad I am down to go do it I don't believe in this but I'll I'll I'll play long with it have is like someone who doesn't believe Mostly just cuz then we'll just go it's fun to travel with you guys believe in this, but I'll, I'll, I'll play along with it. That's the best kind of person to have is like someone who doesn't believe. Mostly just cause then we'll just go, it's fun to travel with you guys. Also true.

I think all the burgers we're going to have. Oh, okay. I'm getting the 2024 upgraded version, right? Yeah. 100%. With a sound alarm, auto power off, low battery indicator, hanging rope design. I don't know what that means hanging on the line non slip design I don't know no version no such function for all this yeah bang get wrecked and There you go a day of revelry and presents and fun surprises and interesting hoaxes There really wasn't so bad after all was it pretty great little game. Yeah, but now

For number eight door number eight the 8h hoax here. We go Welcome Alexander We'll never be allowed in the jilluminaughtii building Jesse The real thing to think there isn't one the real truth is that If you perceive one does that make it real sort of the real truth is that the 8h hoax is that it's a hoax Like this episode being the reveal is that it's a hoax The reveals that there is nothing at the end of it It was just to drive us crazy the truth is that I. Oh, and this was all just a rule to fool you

and a ruse to fool you. And I tried so hard to come up with something and I couldn't. So I just went with the hoax thing to like save face or like teach you something yourself into a corner. I'm not sure it was either to teach you guys something like about I was either trying to save face or I was trying to teach you guys something thematically about the mindset of hoaxers I'm not sure but then when I was at rock bottom you know I realized that I needed to turn to something real for once to like move forward like something something really like solid and like that. What was the point of that huge ARG you did? Something I could count on, something solid.

So what I did was I turned to what all of you should have turned to from the first place because the answer was hidden right in front of you the whole time. Hidden. 8H. 8H, here it is. Numerology, ready? The answer is this.

Every letter is counted in every word. Hidden. Six letters. Heavyweights. Twelve letters. Horse. Five. Head. Four. Hello. Five. Huge. Four. Him again. Eight. Hero. Four. And then you add the digits together. Add the digits of 12 together to make 3. Add the digits together to make 39. Add the digits together to make 12. Add the digits together to make 3. And that is how I found our life path number for the year 2025. I hate you. Do you guys know anything about life paths in numerology? Oh, I mean that's super real.

Life path number 3 is the life path of creativity. Artistic, creative, communicator, friendly. Here's what I learned this year, you guys. No more mysteries, no more secrets. Just good production value, interesting topics, really good episodes about really neat things, and you do a really good job making them. And that's why the actual gift of number 8H, the actual gift of the hoax H8 is the announcement of Cornerfest 2025, which is the first annual festival of, which I'm going to try and make happen every year from now on it's the commitment to my new life path number three numerology and it's gonna be a big list of episodes gonna be four episodes long and it's gonna be all

a bunch of weird crazy mysteries that I found of listicle it's like I found I found a bunch of mysteries all over the internet for years that i've been trying to make into full episodes but that aren't long enough to be full episodes and i always have this ever growing list of those and so at the end of every year i'm just gonna dump that list and make a big long series of all the little mysteries you know, i thought i'd be mad when i learned what the end of 8H was and honestly, I'm just tired Yeah, you're tired. You got a bunch of free stuff can't

even handle You right now, but more importantly I'm Bracing for reddit comments, bro. I got a I'm a boy like no I'm gonna get letters be like I thought you guys are cool. I'm gonna get I'm like What was what was the pixel Dan shit about? I like So then

Improv himself into god damn it I Believe you you we get coffee all the fucking time every week week and you always like, I gotta figure it out. Obviously I planned to hoax you. Obviously I did not actually have nothing to do with you. I love that you gave yourself a redemption arc where you're like, listen, did it turn out that I made you buy a bunch of instruments in this town that you can't play?

But you know what, I learned the value of numerology, so aren't we all happy? And I'm gonna go with path three so are we all happy now fuck you god damn it I want to kick you in your fucking chin extremely hard both of them I was like so ready to like have this come together I was ready to hear an obsessively long, overly complicated, like, what the actual answer is.

You got one. No, I didn't. I got, it was a hoax, which is just so simple. And long-winded at the same time. You have the same energy of an entrepreneur, where you like, promised, promised, promised, and then you're like, I couldn't get the fucking blood reader to work. Is that why you're free? By like, Steve Jobs. blood reader to work is that why yeah you should have done this episode in a

black turtleneck Alex it's the only way that you could have sold it anymore I did a great job I do you fucker no way life at three wait that's the thing that's all told on that's about to like soccer mom hold on you spent years I just need you to know that if anyone listening is angry send all your letters to Alex right now because I have nothing to do with this shit my Bob Jesse of Freemason Knife. Chill out. You shouldn't have. We made out. You shouldn't have.

I'm coming for you, dude. If I go out and that's what's stuck inside my body, people will talk about it for the rest of my days. A Mason knife. It's true. People will be like, holy shit. The real deal is, like for real talks, like we've been just trying to make the

show a lot bigger and better for a long time now. And I think like this year is going to be- So we lied to you. No, really, I like genuinely I mean, bits aside, bits aside, like I think that 2025

is going to be a pretty fun year. We've been doing things a lot differently. And I think you've been noticing like some cool like, like you changes to our look and to the art and stuff like that. And, you know, we're working a lot more closely with our team and planning things out a little bit more. And I think it's just going to be really cool. And I'm just really excited about it. And like I said, the next four episodes of the show are going to be really, really, really interesting things that you've never heard about it before. And

I think you're going to have a really good good time and I think it's a side yeah it's a side there's only one bad idea like yeah I'm excited for like many mysteries like that'll be fun yeah but fuck you it's not even like a new idea for the show I think you've done that that. What? Done what? Like a bunch of mini things together. Yeah. I am so pleased Davis is here. I've been jumping, cause I listen to the show, but I like jump around in time cause ADHD or whatever. And it's like, Oh, like, okay. Yeah, no, I have, you've done that, but it's cool that you're rebranding it as your thing. Yeah, it's my thing. I wanted to just say uh You're welcome to everyone and

Thank you for hanging out You're welcome for all those really good episodes that I made about all those really interesting things I hope that was it. I hope that all that was not You know Nothing in comparison to this. I mean there's prank that I played jokes aside though. Those were some great episodes Zodiac one that like messed me up zodiac Actually like I still like yell about zodiac with my sister to this day

This is gonna for a long time do we talk about when you show me the zodiac movie. Yeah for a long time to come out sure people are gonna be like I Don't I can't trust Alex It's missing green stone. He's like he cemented his reputation on the show Yeah, and honestly, I'm not sure what the reputation is But I know that whenever you come up with an episode and be like don't you guys realize don't you guys realize like what I am? Compared to you guys no I knew I don. I thought you were a nice guy. I am a great guy.

No, he is. He's a good dude. I'm bringing another... This is why he's the conduit for the Illuminati. You gotta be real. Because he has no problem lying. You gotta be real about all aspects of this field that we're in as podcasters and the subject matter that we do.

And man, fake stuff is just as important as real stuff and like I stand by this so hard it's so funny to me I feel great right now it's very funny it doesn't matter I made a bunch of good episodes. You literally bought us off with gifts too. Yeah. This entire episode. I know that's damn right. He was he softened arms.

He softened us up real quick there. Yep. He was damn right! He softened arms! He softened himself real quick there! Yep! I just got to buy tens of thousands of listeners some gifts to help them feel better. All I did was, all I gave them was my blood, sweat, and tears. But I hope that's enough. The real gift? Let's go ghost hunting. I'm like serious about Scary House Squad, let's do that. I'm down. I think that's a great idea.

I'm excited to find nothing. Mathis could be like the Dan Aykroyd of the situation. Like he has the spirit a great idea. I'm excited to find nothing. Mathis could be like the like Dan Aykroyd of the situation. Like he has like the the spirit guide and stuff. I'm down. Yeah. Be great. Be like a priest. Merry Christmas, everybody. I hope you guys are having a good time out there this season. I hope that everybody's even though it's a fucking crazy world out there and nothing is satisfying anymore that we can all just relax and have like a nice good, you know, time this season, regardless of what religion,

I just think like the winter time is a time for it to be warm and cool and and to forgive, you know, forgive, forgive, forgive, forgive, forgive, forgive, and life paths. but I mean, what did you guys think was gonna happen? You're definitely life path to because that is trustworthy Yeah, you can't credit the audacity of you. I told you exactly what was gonna happen last week, didn't I? No, you said I close I don't want to tell you what's gonna happen because I want you to see oh I see you did I see Because I want you to see oh I see you did I see clear as they was the top eight hoaxes It was the top eight hoaxes it was good and now that I am now

Hokes zodiacs not a hoax. What do you mean? Oh part of the h no because because hoaxes It's like so okay. Let's go down the list so like please no He's vamping. He's trying to buy time for a fucking lie No, they're all mini so for patreon.com slash jul monodipod where you allow us to do this roundup operation Yeah, the theme is there please subscribe to the patreon. The theme is there You want or don't I don't know what the theme is, but it's there Life life path three You to experience what episodes he has lined up for the future as a fan I know what everybody's I know you're always for the novel idea of taking a bunch of little things and making the one big thing

out of them dude Technology Alex is gonna get killed Dude, madness is episodes is here. That's the breakthrough technology. Alex is gonna get killed for that. Hey, don't you shit on me. People know what I'm up to. I didn't say you shit. I didn't say shit. I don't play ARG games without the good episodes. I said we're just gonna have a bunch of good episodes this year. I know what yours are too and they're all good.

We got a lot of great fucking topics coming this year. Like seriously. Real talk though, we got huge topics. All point 25. It's gonna be multi-part. I wanna do another live show right now so a crowd can boo you live like I Need that I need a course of boo Old thrown out dirty like produce so they can throw Later when I'm gone, it'll be like Emily Dickinson, and you'll realize my genius, but only after you're gone. Thank you all so much for listening

Dickinson and you'll realize my genius. But only after you're gone. Thank you all so much for listening. Well, we'll be back next week with another brand new episode. I mean, all that good stuff. Alex will continue to try and justify himself until like, the point is just that it's every year I'm doing it every year. Yeah, I'm with you. Yeah, it's fun. It's light. We don't care about this that much. Listen, you're not, you're only going to get kicked off the show if we lose all of our listeners.

That's all. Why would we lose our listeners over this? Technically you would to get kicked off the show if we lose all of our listeners, that's all. Why would we lose our listeners over this? Technically you would all be kicked off the show. Yeah, technically. That's true, actually. Yeah, that's true. That's when I just become insane and live on the streets chasing aliens. All right, we're off to patreon.com slash shulmanitypod for a minute.

Thank you again, Davis, for joining us. Davis, where can people find you on the internet? Do you have anything going on out there? Uh, the warp zone, just on all the various mediums, uh, social mediums these days. Uh, it's the star Wars, old cannon book club. That is, that's the one you got to listen to. Yeah. Check it out. No host is there. That's just good old star Wars. Yeah. Um, and scare game squad. Uh, do you guys know about all this stuff?

Listeners? Do you guys know about this? We learned this for a while, but at the live show, people like most of the people who listen to show only know us from this show. It's weird. It's weird. Very strange. Yeah.

Yeah. Thank you all so much. We appreciate it. We love you. We'll see you next week. Happy holidays. Happy holidays. Happy new year. Goodbye.

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No! I don't understand, and I probably never will Let me just tell you right now that there's two Leon Kennedy and Claire Redfield I'm telling you, I think he literally just looked up famous duos Cheech and Chow And has just been going through the list ever since I'm trying to dig deep

Which one of you is Dick Powell? Me? Your name's Jesse Cox! I want my my because I want to live another day I want my my because I want to live another day I want to Illuminati I want your Illuminati Hello everybody, welcome back to the Jelluminati Podcast. As always, I'm one of your hosts, Martin joined by Alex and Jesse Like a shooting star across the sky that's actually a UFO Bye!