Circling Back - Koepka's PGA Championship & 'Game of Thrones' Series Finale

Episode Date: May 20, 2019

Why is there such a distaste for Brooks Koepka despite how good he is? What are Dave and Dillon's temperatures when it comes to the 'Game of Thrones' series finale? Did The Mighty Mighty Bosstones liv...e a privileged life because they've never had to knock on wood? Answers to these questions and more on this episode. Support us on Patreon and receive weekly episodes for as low $5 per month: www.patreon.com/circlingbackpodcast (0:00) Fun & Easy Banter (15:00) Why do people hate Brooks Koepka? (37:14) Fake Blind People at Matt's El Rancho: An Update (47:46) Dillon and Dave Recap 'Game of Thrones' Series Finale While Will Listens to 90s Rock MeUndies: www.meundies.com/circlingback (15% off) Liquid IV: www.liquidiv.com (code CIRCLINGBACK for 25% off) --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/circling-back/message Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 all right we're back circling back podcast monday my name is will de frise to my right dave ruff to all our friends in northwest te in Northwest Texas and Oklahoma, head on a swivel today. You got some storms rolling through. It's going to be tough. Be careful. Wow. Yeah. Head on a swivel.
Starting point is 00:00:36 How are you not going to mention that it's snowing in Arizona right now, like a straight-up blizzard? Because I'm not really worried about that. May 20th, dude. I'm worried about long-track tornadoes and big-time hail. Don't underestimate how dangerous roads can get with some slick snow, Dave. It's May 20th, though, David. Is it even accumulating? Yeah, dude.
Starting point is 00:00:54 Look at pictures on the internet. I'm more worried, again, about my friends in northwest Texas and Oklahoma. And that includes Oklahoma City. I'm going to give all the love to Arizona. Yeah, be safe out there. Shout love to Arizona. Be safe out there. What's up Dylan? This is the earliest you've ever been introduced in a podcast. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:01:12 It's about time I get a little bit of respect. My brain is half working right now. Here we go. Classic Dylan. I'll pick it up. I just need to get a little bit of momentum. I'm glad to be here. It's going to be a great week.'ll pick it up. Hey, guys. I just need to get a little bit of momentum. But I'm glad to be here.
Starting point is 00:01:26 It's going to be a great week. Oh, you saved it there. Yeah, it's going to be a great week, man. Low energy, but positive. I'll pick it up. I'll pick it up, bitch. I will say, when I first moved down here, I did the typical northerner who moves to a southern place. I was like, oh, these guys can't handle snow.
Starting point is 00:01:43 Blah, blah, blah. I've gone back on it. I've gone back on my high horse-ness, though. The reason that Texans can't handle snow isn't because they're not capable. It's because the tires on everyone's cars aren't just... They're not made for snow.
Starting point is 00:01:58 It's totally understandable. Yes. Y'all don't have snow tires, and you shouldn't. Well, also... Because it doesn't snow here. Yeah, and so, no. You're not supposed to be able to like drive in snow more likely and it's more likely than not that it's not even snow we get freezing rain and sleet which is
Starting point is 00:02:14 i imagine more difficult to drive on than snow the weird thing is like if you go south so if you're like in ohio and you get a ton of snow, they somehow still don't know how to plow the roads in Ohio. So they plow the snow to the middle of the road, which is just like, what are you doing? What do snow tires look like? How are they different? I don't know.
Starting point is 00:02:36 It's like monster truck tires. You just asked me a car question? You're the one who has them on his car when he's in Michigan. Yeah, but that's just the kind of thing where it's like, all right, we're good with these snow tires. Cool. I'm not doing checks on them. It he's in Michigan. Yeah, but that's just the kind of thing where it's like, all right, we're good with these snow tires. Cool. I'm not doing checks on them. It's like swampers. I mean, you see the chains on cars,
Starting point is 00:02:50 on the tires, when it's really icy. We're not chaining. I'm not chaining up my car. Yeah, but you see that. I mean, people do that. Isn't that on more like semi-trucks and stuff?
Starting point is 00:03:02 Is it? I see just everyday people using them when I'm in places like, you know, Vail. All I know is that the computer game I played in elementary school on the school computers called Cruisin' USA. Not Cruisin' USA. Oh, I used to go hard at Cruisin' USA. I forget what it was.
Starting point is 00:03:16 It was some thing where you were a truck driver. Oregon Trail? It was essentially the updated version of Oregon Trail. And if you decided to put chains on your tires, you got pulled over 10 times out of 10. I feel like no one in Vail is putting chains on their tires. No offense. Yeah, you're probably right. But I mean, I've seen cars in that part of the country.
Starting point is 00:03:35 I feel like people in Vail just put peasants on their tires. And then that's what they use. Like the blood of people like me. Yeah. Scumbags. Like scum, yeah. Common street trash. Common like people like me yeah scumbags like scum yeah common street trash common street trash like me who don't have places in veil i didn't plan on when i first moved here having my tires spin out in the rain oh the that place up the hill right
Starting point is 00:03:56 down the street from here from the studio yeah like there i mean that stop sign right yeah that's a prime location for that's actually the exact place that i did it for the first that's embarrassing too and there's like people at the others it's a four-way that. That's actually the exact place that I did it for the first time. That's embarrassing, too, and there's people at the other... It's a four-way stop, and it's really slick. You go through and start spinning, and you're like, oh. You start kind of looking down like, oh, no. My tires are trash. Dude, it's weird.
Starting point is 00:04:17 It happens all the time, though. Yeah. Gotta swing it, man. Maybe I should put some chains on those bitches. Did you all have a good weekend? yeah I saw some people requesting that we do
Starting point is 00:04:29 a last weekend in fun just to talk about our weekend I don't know if we're gonna do that or not but some people want it we actually did this on Touching Base we did it on here no but we did it on
Starting point is 00:04:37 Touching Base once and it was like one of the most listened to episodes we ever did and it made no sense to me huh I gotta I gotta just pull the
Starting point is 00:04:45 curtain back all right it's not gonna be that interesting yeah like like that's probably the most interesting weekend yeah like i didn't i didn't do like i didn't do anything this weekend yeah did you dye your hair silver for that wedding no but that picture i look so silver dude what's the deal yeah if you don't know what i'm talking about or what we're talking about go to uh at d Shivery on Instagram. C-H-E-V-E-R-E-R-E. I liked the photo from Will DeFreeze on Instagram. That's W-I-L-L-D-E-F-R-I-E-S.
Starting point is 00:05:14 And like, you're a silver fox in this photo, dude. I'm so silver. This has nothing to do with Instagram, but your last name. Okay. Was your tab at the West Alabama bar on Friday? That was a company card, right okay let's thank god because we continue after you left we put drinks on it for about another hour and a half okay yeah yeah that was company and we were kind of laughing like i hope that wasn't dylan's personal card who cares if it's still in personal dude i know i know that's so rude he drives like a fucking brand new toy Like, dude's clearly just sitting on stacks.
Starting point is 00:05:45 That's a good point. We make pretty much the same amount of money, I think. Whatever. I'm terrible with money. Everyone knows that. How much money do you make? I have hella investments out there. Yeah, you invested in that app.
Starting point is 00:05:58 It's the Uber for dating apps. Yeah. Yeah. I just have hella... I'm an angel investor. Really? Yeah. Wow. I'm an on-hell investor. That's why I'm an angel investor Really? Yeah Wow
Starting point is 00:06:06 I'm an on hell investor That's why I'm going to San Francisco This weekend I need to check on my investments I only invest in companies That are run by dudes named on hell It's a different thing That I've been doing
Starting point is 00:06:16 It's weird man Yeah it hasn't panned out It's a weird strategy But it's long term Okay I'm thinking about Copping some Allbirds this weekend Okay
Starting point is 00:06:23 Wow it must be nice I feel like it's like When you go to the Mecca of Allbirds, you have to get some when you're there. What do Allbirds want? Wait, is that a San Fran company? I just feel like if you're a tech person that lives in San Francisco, you're crushing Allbirds constantly. Was your boy that you brought to Alabama, Rockinson?
Starting point is 00:06:45 Dude, now that... I'm on high alert for Allbirds now. Oh, I am too. I see them every... Everyone I know owns them, apparently. I have an unjustified hatred for Allbirds. See, this is... Okay, we get it, dude.
Starting point is 00:06:58 What? What do you get? I just said it's unjustified. I know I need to calm down on it. No, you do need to calm down Because as the only guy on this podcast Who actually owns the fucking shoes Well I don't
Starting point is 00:07:10 I do not own them I've never worn them You're wearing them right now Find one picture of me in Allbirds And I'll give you $100,000 Okay Well I had a buddy I'm not going to say his name
Starting point is 00:07:19 Who was at the wedding you were at And Dylan is the guy who wore dress shoes To the actual ceremony Then before the dance floor slipped on his all-birds with a suit. These are more than I thought they would be. Dude, that seems like a Baker Mayfield move. Except not all-birds.
Starting point is 00:07:34 Converse. The reason you think this is because he literally did this at the wedding I went to with him. A lot of guys do that. I remember you saying that. And then he started hitting the whip a year after the whip was cool. You have to plan ahead for that move. Like, you have to bring another pair of shoes. Like, that's a, what a trash move that is.
Starting point is 00:07:48 You cannot deny his swag, though. He's got swag. No, he was the most hateable dude at the wedding. Him and OBJ are about to be electric. And I'm talking, like, off the field, too. Sally's little brother is, like, one of the most diehard UT fans I've ever met. And I thought he was going to like accidentally like trip on the dance floor and take out his ACL or something.
Starting point is 00:08:08 Well, that would have been unfortunate. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. The hatred. Like everyone was just looking at him like, dude, you're a tool. Get out of here.
Starting point is 00:08:16 Were they? I bet all the chicks were looking at him like, swag. No. Do you look at a guy that's wearing Converse under his tuxedo? Like as though he's swaggy? There's a market for that.
Starting point is 00:08:27 He didn't have a beard at that time. Dude, the beard is really putting him over the top. It's not a good... It's a thick beard. He needs to do something with it, though. I'm a beard boy. I know these things. What does he need to do with it?
Starting point is 00:08:41 Like, get it trimmed. Just get it, like, tightened up a little bit. He's about to go win 11 games with that beard is that the over under barrett and i i'll mash that under button our friend barrett of the club cool pod we had this conversation i'm like we think that they're gonna at first i was like yeah they're gonna sneak a wild card spot and then i was like i talked myself into them winning the division sophomore year quarterback winning the division there's concerns let's David. Let's go.
Starting point is 00:09:05 He's got weapons. Dude, Will has been watching so much sports lately. No one's talking about how much sports he's been watching. I'm Will. Why are you doing third person? I thought you meant Will Forbes, our intern. No, he's a big sports guy, though. He wrote for SI for kids.
Starting point is 00:09:17 Why are you doing third person? No one talks about that. I don't know. Some people do third person. I feel like it's like a swag move to do that. You call, okay. Alpha move. Dylan, I'm just exposing you this to do that. Okay, Dylan.
Starting point is 00:09:27 I'm just exposing you this morning, man. Dylan at this meeting we had Friday was calling himself Dorn in third person. Why do you make shit up like this, Dylan? I don't know. I'm sorry. Dylan sat down. He sat down in his chair and he goes, Dorn loves cutting deals. You go, Dorn here. Yep.
Starting point is 00:09:45 No, that didn't happen what are we doing here anyway we're just doing stuff that was fun and easy banter yeah it's always fun and easy banter uh you're probably aware of this by now
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Starting point is 00:10:11 I think things might get a little wild. Honestly, I'm looking forward to my Monday nights. Yes. Ooh, Monday nights. Oh, Monday nights. Should we get an intern that makes a theme song for us, like the Monday Night Football one,
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Starting point is 00:11:50 That's how I'm going to say it. Don't call them landline. They never answer that landline. It drives me insane. Do your parents do the move where they're like, oh, good to hear from you. Haven't heard from you in a while. No, they don't do that.
Starting point is 00:12:03 My parents give me shit. My parents aren't passive aggressive.ive dude they're giving me shit i'm like like like my phone's always like ready for a call hey uh my parents have the landline that so not only does the number pop up on the tv screen because it's connected it also has a robot voice and it's like called from hughes david and it says the last name first. It's so fucking annoying. That's so annoying. Is your last name Hughes? No, my brother-in-law.
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Starting point is 00:14:59 today. You know who was probably hydrated as fuck yesterday? Brooks Koepka? Yeah. Brooks Koepka. Well, actually, maybe until like the back nine. Oh, more on that later. He could have used a liquid IV. All right, Dave, give us your takes.
Starting point is 00:15:17 Okay, so I've been trying to figure out what people's temperature on brooks kepka is the casual fan even the guy who's really into golf i feel like dylan and i have been somewhat down on him oh big time i'm not a kepka guy yeah you've been high on him high okay i used to be really really high and it's it's uh hey what's up um it's it's gotten it's a hey what's up um it's it's gotten it's gotten to the point now where i don't really know how i feel about him so he did he did a podcast last week with uh pmt i listened to it it was he was very likable on it he was cool i i enjoyed that podcast he should be he's a guy's guy he seems like he should be cool um and then this week the whole back and forth him and brandle brandle kind of egging him on a little bit
Starting point is 00:16:11 i don't know then he threw goes out he shoots what 62 63 day one 63 playing with fucking frankie and tiger um that's rude of the pga championship to put frankie with uh tiger after tiger just like i thought so crushed him at the master i felt a little bit bad just eviscerated him i got love from frankie though then cat goes out and misses the cut silent killer shout out to him um so i've been trying to figure out why don't people embrace brooks kapka and i was thinking about this yesterday as i was watching it. I was watching the fans turn on him on the back nine. Like, no, audibly turn on him. Okay.
Starting point is 00:16:49 Like chanting DJ because DJ was making a run, which I wanted to see happen. I don't know if I wanted the full meltdown for Brooks, but I tweeted this at dcardorough on Twitter, at dcrough on Instagram, for the record. Did you tweet from your Instagram? I didn't. Did you screenshot the tweet and then post it from your Instagram?
Starting point is 00:17:07 I scribbled it out. I said, new post here. I was thinking, okay, the best thing that could have happened to Brooks yesterday, if you ask him this, he would never admit it, but him almost blowing it made him so much more likable because now that we know that the partial meltdown is in his bag it whether or not he ever brings it out again is to be seen and he may never do it again but just knowing that that was there for that moment it makes him a lot more likable because my theory is
Starting point is 00:17:36 the reason people are not warmed up to brooks kepka is because we are all still of the Tiger generation and we are not ready to part ways with Tiger being the GOAT and the only person in the last four ever to ever to even make me think that they have a chance at being as great as Tiger is Brooks Koepka we've had flashes we've had Rory we've had Spieth I was gonna say like these people were saying this about Spieth two years ago. I don't think. Yes, they were. I think what you're saying has some validity to it. But when Spieth was making a run and just came out of the gates winning majors,
Starting point is 00:18:14 I didn't have that sentiment. I didn't. It wasn't like he was replacing Tiger as potentially like the next guy to. He wasn't a threat. He was at a different time, though, because Tiger was almost hashtag canceled at that tiger wasn't playing tiger like this he came like speed jt the you know the what is it the cayman guys not cayman wow that's weird cayman guys uh baker's bay boys that whole squad that was all happening while tiger wasn't playing. He was doing God knows what, recovering from spinal fusion. But my theory is it's like you look at Brooks,
Starting point is 00:18:50 and you're like, okay, this dude is 29. He's going to – I mean, there's a good argument he's going to win double-digit majors, right? He's 29 right now. He's already won four. And his game – I mean, look at his game. He's already won four. And his game, I mean, look at his game. He's fucking long and straight, and he can putt.
Starting point is 00:19:09 When he putts, he's unbeatable. I think part of my issue is that yes, he's won four. In very quick succession. It's an all-time run, but we can't get ahead of ourselves.
Starting point is 00:19:24 We can't get ahead of ourselves. No, but I think... We can't get ahead of ourselves here. I'm not saying it's going to happen, but I'm saying that it looks more real with him than anybody else. What do you say to the people out there who think that he tanked on the back nine yesterday to get closer to DJ to get his approval rating up? Man, that is... There are people out there saying that.
Starting point is 00:19:42 I think there's some merit to what you're saying. I absolutely think you're at least partially right. But for me, it's much more about his general attitude towards the game and everyone around him and the way he carries himself. He acts almost as if he's bigger than the game. He also doesn't care about golf very much. He acts too good for it. He's outspoken about not being into the game, and that's not good.
Starting point is 00:20:03 I think he leans into that. He leaned into that on PMT. I feel like he kind of... He had a quote about, I don't know, wanting to play baseball or whatever back in the day that people have kind of lashed onto. And I feel like now he knows he can get a rise out of people by saying that.
Starting point is 00:20:20 I don't know if that's really... On PMT, his line about how 80 guys in the field just flat out don't have a chance to win. Like, yes, maybe that's true, but you don't say shit like that. That's some shit that Tiger back in the day... Like, his peers look at him like, dude, you're a fucking dickhead. Like, guys who qualify just for that
Starting point is 00:20:37 tournament, like big-time moments in their lives, like... Like, fuck you, dude. By the way, shouts to Harold Varner. Yeah, what happened there? I missed that whole situation shouts to Harold Varner. What happened there? What, Harry Three Stick? HV3? Are people calling him
Starting point is 00:20:50 Harry Three Stick? We are. Everyone's doing Harry Three Stick. I think he went out and shot like 80 yesterday. 81. That's fantastic. He got an 81 off yesterday.
Starting point is 00:20:57 He went out. Dude, that makes me like him more. Oh, yeah. Find me a guy shooting in the 80s on the final pairing of a major. That's my dude. They showed single-digit shots from him because it was so hard to watch.
Starting point is 00:21:08 I don't have the clutch, Gene and Golf. Who is he paired with? He's paired with Brooks. Oh, he was in the final group? Yeah. Oh, I didn't know that. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. So he goes out, Birdie's one, Brooks, Bogey's one, and people are like, hmm?
Starting point is 00:21:21 Well, no one was really thinking that. Well, there was also the really awkward exchange between him and the cop walking him down the fairway. What was that? I don't know why they decided to show that. It made me wildly uncomfortable. They showed more of that than they did Brooks talking to his caddy and then subsequently hitting that shot on 18 that was like the biggest shot on the tournament. Yeah, it was weird. Someone explain what happened.
Starting point is 00:21:40 So they showed this shot of Harry Three stick walking down the fairway with a cop and they didn't show the beginning of the conversation and all you hear is the cop say started from the bottom now you're here cop is like a white dude he looks like he's wearing like a costa sunglasses cop is the edgiest cop you've ever seen he's got tats all up his arm full full colored sleeves he's okay and he and then he what did what did harry three sticks he goes he goes he said something he's like you like drake yeah you like drake and the cop no he said he said i'm trying to be here or something like yeah effect then he goes and then like it kind of got awkward pause so you like drake the way cop goes yeah no the way cop said yeah it's almost like he didn't know who Drake was. He goes, yeah?
Starting point is 00:22:28 Okay, at this moment, was this before or after he had kind of... The meltdown had ensued. The meltdown had ensued. He's like seven over at this point. So that makes it worse. I mean, I don't think it made it worse. At this point, I think... He didn't put out the vibe of a guy who was depressed the entire round, I guess, because he blew up.
Starting point is 00:22:45 He was just like, yeah, I guess I'm out of here. It's so hardcore. It was windy as hell yesterday, too. Are people talking about that moment? No. Okay. They were at the time. Were they?
Starting point is 00:22:55 No, I'm not saying were they. Were they? Is the cop saying it's because he's a black dude? Would that become a storyline? I'm sure some people were thinking, but no, I think it was just a really random thing to people like what the fuck was that okay yeah it's also drake like drake is like i mean he's not like some like deep cut yeah it's hip-hop though that's what i'm saying but i i just my biggest takeaway from that was just the way the cop goes yeah yeah but it was almost like you know drake he's heard about he's heard about two drake songs that's
Starting point is 00:23:25 how that's like when your friends like have you seen the show blah blah on netflix and you don't want to like you don't want to explain it you don't care just go yeah yeah oh yeah yeah dude that's pretty i've heard that's awesome cool cool yeah dude i rep ovo yeah um but yeah so like my take is and this might be just me this is kind of how i feel about it it's like brooks is different than he's built different is different than he's built different than Jordan he's built different than Rory not physically well not just physically but just mentally and it kind of scares me I'm like is this dude about to be that guy and I feel like a lot of people aren't ready to let go of Tiger I just think that I don't think we should be talking
Starting point is 00:24:03 double-digit majors like like a lot of people are doing I know I don't think we should be talking double digit majors like like a lot of people are doing i know i don't think you should be talking that until you're at least over the five hump that's fair like it just seems it seems like a lot and it seems like a good thing that media and golf media can talk about and hype up but people were doing this exact same thing for jordan and but jordan at least showed his hand that he had the meltdown in him. Yeah. Like early on. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:24:27 Right? And then when he came back and won it after he was playing with Bubba and he dunked one on 12, people were like, oh, okay. Well, this guy, it made him more likable. Then he comes back and wins it the next year. People like Jordan. Brooks, though, man. I don't like Brooks for the reasons that he's not fun to watch. He's good from a ball striking and putting standpoint.
Starting point is 00:24:54 Yeah, that's interesting if you're a good golfer. He brings no drama to the tournament, besides the small meltdown yesterday, but that's the first glimpse we've seen of that in a major. He bogeyed four in a row. He's a killer, man. When his game is on... But he doesn't show emotion either either so it's not fun to see him be that so that's the weird thing too about the tiger thing so these guys jordan and rory they grew up idolizing tiger and they're very vocal about it and like well rory dressed exactly like tiger on thursday this
Starting point is 00:25:20 tournament that was awesome it was like dude what are you doing i don't know you're like you got you pulled out the Tiger Woods collection for Sunday and wore it on a Thursday. He doesn't pick out his outfits. Nike sets everything up. No, no. I think they do it away. I think they tailor it to the guy's styles because you looked at Jason Day
Starting point is 00:25:37 and he was dressed like trash. Finau's hat, the red, and every other guy. But Finau at least chooses a little tone down the rest of his clothes, his shirts and his pants whereas like jason day's out there wearing like yeah these wild stripes and shit i think i think i think they give uh everybody but rory like the option so like rory and tiger they can wear what they want because like rory he's he didn't he's a nike guy he's wearing the nike dad cap he did not wear the worst hat in history the middle of the hat vertical Nike
Starting point is 00:26:09 just like if they handed me that hat and I'm sponsored by Nike during that tournament I'm taking the hit and I'm not going to get a paycheck for my hat sponsor that week I'm showing the flow off that you're going Ollie? I don't think you know how much they give
Starting point is 00:26:23 it's just for that tournament don't unroll your shitty new product on me no like the biggest tournament out there i'm going duff and i'm wearing like a mick not even not micklelter but just like some old like cuddy sark hat or like that you found in like your dad's basement what's he like is he still doing that shit he had a sponsor i think i feel like he had a corona premiere hat or something yes somebody i think i saw a tweet about like a corona hat or something corona is the worst mexican beer there is by the way uh i think it's better than soul but i'm not willing to die i'm not gonna die on that hill but i personally i just hate i hate me me personally so do not sponsor this podcast corona it will not be a genuine read for me. But I can't be swayed.
Starting point is 00:27:06 You really showed your hand. Money talks. There's one more point I wanted to make about Brooks. One more thing about this. Okay, so everybody... I don't know. He's just too alpha. It was good to see Spieth play well, by the way.
Starting point is 00:27:23 Where did you stand on my group text prediction? Remind me what it said. I had a busy weekend. I'm sorry oh wow busy weekend for dylan wedding we did we were over here jerking each other off um dave and i were literally doing that while watching bros that's weird yeah don't tell me about that that he will win the open championship oh oh i did okay i did see that um yeah i don't hate that i don't what i hate about that that is that it's not that hot of a take. No one else is making it. I mean, like... Bro, I'm sure there's many people making it, actually.
Starting point is 00:27:54 I think I saw a graphic on Instagram yesterday that was over the last six majors or something like that, scored a par. Spieth is second. I think he's 20-1 at Pebble, or as of yesterday morning. He is second. He's also 20 20-1 at Pebble as of yesterday morning. He is second. He's also 20-something strokes behind Koepka. Yeah, but he's also 20-something strokes in front of the fifth person.
Starting point is 00:28:11 Oh, really? Yeah, so it's like, I mean. He played well yesterday, though, in really, really tough conditions. And he putted his ass off. He's a grind boy. Strokes game putting. That's the huge one with him. Well, he's a winner, too. What's up with PGA just doing all this strokes game stuff?
Starting point is 00:28:24 Like, it's every single stat they're putting analytics bro i don't even know how you like i know that like yeah you want to be number one in strokes gain putting how do you calculate that yeah that's the thing about that stat no one knows and there's no way to find out who what i don't think he's gonna win pebble i think he's gonna compete i think he's top 10 at the U.S. Open. And then I think whenever the British Open, July, comes around, I think that's it. I think he's going to do it. U.S. Open's at Pebble? Yeah. Fuck yes.
Starting point is 00:28:53 Fuck yes. Everybody knows that, dude. Have you played Pebble? No. Oh. No. I would love to. That's probably the top.
Starting point is 00:29:00 That's probably number one for me right now in terms of courses I would like to play. Pebble? Okay. I'll take san andrews oh you're getting totally different vibes though yeah totally different what are you looking for vibes but i mean just the whole history around san andrews i'm gonna say that i'm more likely to play san andrews than i am pebble probably okay look at this guy pebble was like the first golf course I knew of when I was like six or seven because I feel like dads love Pebble. Yeah. Yeah, Pebble's dope.
Starting point is 00:29:30 Yeah, dads love Pebble. We had this really shitty computer game, and I think it might have been Pebble Beach Golf or something. Was it PGA Tour, like 1997 golf game? It might have been pre-1997. Dude, because I had a really shitty golf game. You know, you did it with the mouse. It was awful graphics, but I feel like it was at Pebble.
Starting point is 00:29:49 Which is tight. But yeah. That was Kepka talk. That was good. Outside of the small little window yesterday where DJ got close. DJ got close outside of that Brooks ruined the PGA Championship in terms of drama and fun
Starting point is 00:30:10 absolutely he's a fun sucker I jokingly tweeted the most electric moment of the tournament was when Lucas Glover holed out from the bunker
Starting point is 00:30:17 after his partner Lucas Biergaard had a hole in one and he goes nuts and has like a really awkward high five but it wasn't that much of a stretch like that was the most cool happened no on saturday i mean i had i had wedding stuff going on all day but i didn't watch a second of golf and i didn't even miss it i was
Starting point is 00:30:37 like i know what's happening yeah it was kind of it was just like i watched it and i was like i don't even know why i'm doing this i should be going and doing something else and that's a lot of rub against kepka that's just any runaway leader just kind of takes the fun out of it. It's sad to say, but... Yeah, but if Tiger's running away with it, you're like, you're fucking pounding your chest. You're loving it. The whole world's behind that guy. If Tiger's running away with it, I'm like borderline crying, like drinking two craft beers.
Starting point is 00:30:57 Just like, fuck, man, this is awesome. All right, if we don't talk about this, people are going to be like, how didn't you talk about this? Koepka denying his girlfriend the kiss on the way in. I think he just didn't see it. I mean, he either didn't see it, but at the same time, if you're her, just maybe chill while you're walking. Kisses don't,
Starting point is 00:31:14 you don't need to be walking down the street kissing. You're not a middle school couple trying to flex with everybody. Especially with a camera right in front of your face. Yeah, like, what are you doing? Just like, just, if, if, if Sal, if I'm walking down the sidewalk and sally tries to go for a
Starting point is 00:31:26 kiss with me i'm like what are you doing right now yeah i but i think he legit didn't see her make the move so like brooks walking into sunday math like sunday uh at a major he's up seven strokes that's the equivalent of will like walking down congress going to brunch exactly like sally's trying to kiss him that's literally exactly what i was thinking that's like but it's just like like you're walking. Yeah. Well, they're about to part ways too because he had to go play golf. Are there any other players that have that?
Starting point is 00:31:54 Like they get that camera shot? Because if you think about it, Tiger, never. Spieth has been with the same girl. He's now married. You don't ever see that from them. I don't know, man. Yeah, but Spieth's wife with the same girl. He's now married. Like, you don't ever see... You don't ever see that from them. I don't know, man. Yeah, but Spieth's wife isn't posting topless photos of herself straddling Spieth in a lagoon.
Starting point is 00:32:13 Thirst trap. That's very true. They're the most thirst trappy couple, Brooks and... Is it Jenna Sims? Jenna Sims, yeah. Jenna Sims. Do we know a Jenna Sims? That sounds like a very fake name.
Starting point is 00:32:24 We know someone with a very similar name, yeah. Yeah, okay. I mean, her Instagram is... Softcore porn? It's the Instagram that you'd expect out of her, I guess. I mean, the first photo is her posing with Brooks with the trophy. Nice. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:32:45 She's a little much. Yeah, the topless photo in the lagoon is kind of weird. It is a hot photo, but it's really aggressive. Is it the one where they're embracing or making out? He's got double hands on the booty. And she's just topless.
Starting point is 00:33:01 Who's taking this photo? They just set the timer and put it on a rocket? What, you think they got a tripod? I think Brooks is a tripod after that photo. This looks like it's shot by a professional, which is weird. Yeah, she's just straight up topless. Well, I think she does professional photographs. I think she's a model of some sort, not just an Instagram model.
Starting point is 00:33:21 Could be wrong on that. I don't really know. Nice gal. She doesn't have like represented by like blah, blah, blah models in New York City in her profile,
Starting point is 00:33:31 which is... Is she selling tea? She's doing a non-prof. She's a founder of the non-profit Pageant of Hope. Don't call it a non-prof. Dude, it's non-prof.
Starting point is 00:33:38 Dude, that's Allbirds Will talking. No one's doing non-prof. Dude, Allbirds Will. He loves non-profs. Yeah, she's thirsty. She needs to get the following up on this non-prof. Dude, Allbirds will. He loves non-profs. Yeah, she's thirsty. She needs to get the following up on this non-prof. She is thirsty.
Starting point is 00:33:48 524 followers ain't going to get it done. Let's get up there. What's her... Go to pageantofhope.org slash donate, please. What's the cause? Their mission is to empower, celebrate, and advocate for children facing challenges, celebrating inner beauty and self-confidence. There's another one.
Starting point is 00:34:04 I've been trying to champion that for a minute. Her post on July 7th is her laying on top of him and he's just got a handful of ass. Yeah, it's aggressive. Yeah, what? They don't need to be doing this stuff. Doesn't seem that necessary. She did on, I guess it was
Starting point is 00:34:21 a long time ago, never mind. Never mind. Never mind. Look, man. Let's stop critiquing her profile. Shout out to Pageant of Hope, though. Big shout out. Of course. Sure.
Starting point is 00:34:37 I didn't have any other. That's probably enough golf. Takes. Yeah. Yeah. Sorry. Congrats to Brooks. If there was ever a weekend to not watch a ton of a major championship,
Starting point is 00:34:48 I mean, it was this. We're kind of coming to the close of, like, sports fun. And it's depressing. This is the best time of the year if you've got, like, horses in the race. We've got two more weeks of NBA and NHL. Did you guys watch any of the preakness? No, but I heard that dude got ejected off of his horse. Oh, our man's got ejected.
Starting point is 00:35:08 I got this buddy who's like a big-time gambler. He bets on sports a lot and a lot of money on it. We were about to watch the race, about to start. We're all in our suits, like ready to go to the wedding. And he's like, all right, nine horse, nine horse. He had like two grand on the nine horse. Like, all right, let's check it out. He had like two grand on the nine horse. Like, all right, let's check it out. He was just like so animated, like screaming.
Starting point is 00:35:29 Race starts. The nine horse is the jockey that fell off the horse was the nine horse. He ran two laps. The horse just kept chopping, though, man. He's like, fuck it. I'm going to run this race anyway. Let me issue this statement. Instincts kick in, dude.
Starting point is 00:35:42 I don't care. A horse should be able to win with or without jockey we as though as the race went on we were wondering like if if he finishes first does it count but then it doesn't make that much sense because there's no weight of the jockey on the horse like you feel like you could run faster without that i'm of the camp that maybe we should just get rid of jockeys all together i just let these horses just go full instinct. I'm fine with that. He just straight threw
Starting point is 00:36:08 that little dude off, man. That was hilarious. I'm glad War of Will won. That was my horse in the derby just because my name is literally in the horse. Wow.
Starting point is 00:36:16 Wow. That being said, I didn't realize how trash the Preakness was. Like, they had Diplo like doing a DJ set and it was the least energized crowd I've ever seen. And then they started going
Starting point is 00:36:28 back to all the other... How much did he get paid for that? I'd say $150k. He was the worst name they've gotten for the Preakness in years. They had like Pitbull. Diplo's a pretty big name. Pitbull, dude. He is Mr. World 1. Lord?
Starting point is 00:36:43 Wait, they had... Dude, everyone knows I'm a big Lord guy. I like Lord too, but I'm not trying to He is Mr. Worldwide. Lord? Wait, they had a Lord? Okay. Dude, everyone knows I'm a big Lord guy. I mean, I like Lord too, but I'm not trying to... Before my horse races, I'm not trying to do Lord's music. I'm not trying... Dude, that's why the Kentucky Derby is tight, because they don't do that kind of lame stuff.
Starting point is 00:36:59 It's traditional, and they have the traditions that they do beforehand. There's no room for your diplos. They're trying to explain their audience. Have we confirmed whether or not Martin Garrix is a real human or not? No. I thought it was Martin Skrillex. No one can prove his existence. What?
Starting point is 00:37:17 No, go ahead. We have an update. We were kind enough to get an update regarding something we discussed. I don't want to tell too much of what we discussed, but I would be remiss not to. We talked about this on our Patreon episode. Dylan and I had a run-in of sorts with a group of people who... You had a run-in. You told me shortly thereafter. Oh, you didn't actually see them?
Starting point is 00:37:38 No, no. So Sally and I saw some people crossing the street that appeared to be blind, and then they walked into Matt's All Rancho and all of a sudden started sitting down. And they cut the line of people, they put their canes away, and we're just chilling. We were like, hold on. I feel like there's another name for it besides cane. It's cane. Is it cane?
Starting point is 00:37:57 It's cane. Okay. I stand corrected. I agree. I thought there would be two. You know what I mean? Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:38:03 All right. I thought it'd be like a walking stick or something. It's Kane. All right. Kane. Kane. Okay. So I got an email because we wanted an explanation.
Starting point is 00:38:11 The confusion that we had was why these people were walking around as though they were blind, but then when they got in the restaurant, they were just business as usual. They didn't appear to have any eyesight issues. They were just chilling right luckily we have a backer who is legally blind and she reached out to me i'm legally blind yes exactly she reached out major shouts to avery uh she said big fan of circling back mail-in and sunday scary it's the last episode of circling batch so i guess this was patreon episode last week oh yeah yeah yeah okay we did go down this you mentioned seeing a group of people using white canes cutting ahead of everyone at max l rancho whether they were actually blind was highly suspect since you saw some of them looking around and one guy used his
Starting point is 00:38:59 cane like a walking staff staff i think i compared him to uhalf the gray oh yeah she said I'm visually impaired myself and use a cane periodically especially if I'm walking alone for me the cane is a cue to others that I can't see well and to get out of my way you can actually tell a lot of out of person's vision based off his or her cane this is kind of what blew my mind this is interesting this is what blew my mind a completely white cane signifies the user is fully blind. Okay, you got that? A white cane with red on the bottom six inches or so means the person is visually impaired. Got it? That's what she uses. If you see a red and white striped cane similar to a candy cane, that means the person carrying it is both visually and hearing impaired.
Starting point is 00:39:48 When you are given a cane, it is highly recommended to go through training with a mobility specialist to learn the proper technique. So that's, Sally actually said that these people might be training to be mobility specialists or they are somewhat visually impaired and they're just like learning she had heard of something like this before she said and then as avery said mobility specialists can have normal vision or be blind themselves to be certified you have to go through a course and log a certain amount of hours using a cane to get around okay well that is plausible that that's what these people were doing you don't squat up and go to mad's Angel for margaritas. Avery weighed in on this. Why can't you? See, when I got this email,
Starting point is 00:40:28 the first thing that happened to me was my heart sunk a little bit. I was like, oh no. I said something really insensitive. I had a vet reach out to me after I ripped on that vet for serving cold brew and shit. I had a vet reach out in somewhat body bag.
Starting point is 00:40:42 Oh man, I thought you were talking like a veteran. No, no, no. I was like, when did you rip the troops? No, I'm pro-troops. I missed this. Everyone knows that. But she said, as for cutting in line to be seated at Matt's regardless if they were visually impaired or not is a certified trash move.
Starting point is 00:40:56 Okay. Hit the trash horn. Trash, trash, trash, trash. Can I say that there is not a worse restaurant to be visually impaired at than Matt's El Rancho? Especially that night. It's the busiest we've ever seen it.'s especially that night it's the busiest we've ever seen it you can you can vouch that's that's the most ridiculous we've ever seen that restaurant it's not a great place to wait for a table so you're crowding around a bar and there's meanwhile there's hot plates sizzling hot fajitas just coming in hot buzzing your head every five minutes just straight buzzing it no lie uh she said she continued having a
Starting point is 00:41:23 handicap doesn't entitle you to special treatment. If this group were just using the canes to be funny, I'm sure, I'm not sure how they sleep at night. Avery, I don't think they were doing it to like, I don't think they were doing a bit. This wasn't like a,
Starting point is 00:41:35 a CKY thing. This wasn't like jackass, like 5.0. If it was, I didn't see the punchline of it, which was unfortunate. Uh, she said it would be the equivalent of using a wheelchair at Disneyland to skip the lines.
Starting point is 00:41:47 Right. A lot of people do that. I hope this helps. And if you, Dylan, or Dave have any other questions, please let me know. Keep up the great work. Look, shouts to you, Avery. Thank you for that. Best, Avery from Seattle.
Starting point is 00:41:57 The sweetest legally blind bitch you'll ever meet. Very informative email. Did she actually sign off like that? She did. That's great. Shouts to her. You'd love to see that. email did she actually sign off like that she did that's great shouts to her you'd love to see that um so yeah it kind of makes me feel better that she's saying that this is absolute trash
Starting point is 00:42:11 regardless of whether or not they were visually impaired or not so matt's also has those outdoor tables that aren't solid that's like the metal with like the chain uh table you know the holes and stuff metal patio furniture metal patio Metal patio furniture. And their salsa has... Their salsa bowl lends itself to tipping. It has four feet. It's not a bowl. It's not a bowl. It's a bowl that has four feet coming off of it.
Starting point is 00:42:36 It needs to have a flat bottom. It's very easy to spill salsa through the holes and onto your legs and feet. If you wear white shoes to Mattel Rancho and sit outside, you're certified loco. You're asking for trouble. How they haven't switched to just bowls with flat bottoms is beyond me.
Starting point is 00:42:53 All those salsa bowls are sitting sideways constantly if you're sitting on the patio. It's dangerous. It's reckless. It's certified reckless. I don't like it. So that's that. I'm glad we cleared it up. Do you guys feel better about this now?
Starting point is 00:43:07 I feel better personally as someone who is very shook by this. Yeah, that's good information. And the best thing was that separate from him, there was a blind man sitting at another table on the patio who was very clearly blind. And he had someone with him the entire time guiding him to the bathroom or to the bar and everything like that and i was like see these people are wronging this guy do people do we still do guide dogs in 2019 i feel like i haven't seen a good guide dog in a
Starting point is 00:43:34 while i don't know you see him i see him every now and then actually no i saw one getting on a plane uh on southwest recently the guy was in front of me in the boarding group thing. And I thought he might have just had like a, what's it called? Service dog? Yeah. No, it was a C&I dog. Emotional support dog.
Starting point is 00:43:55 It's because people, you could tell people wanted to pet it, but you're like, oh, you can't do that. This one. Can you really not? No, because you're taking, I mean, you're distracting the dog i mean i'm not gonna do that
Starting point is 00:44:06 i feel like those are also protectors if you're seeing uh austin bergstrom airport has right before you get in the tsa line i've seen the same dog twice it's a big ass gsp that's just like sitting there with like you know the the bows? Police officer. And that thing is tight, man. And it's everything I can do not to dap it up when I walk by. Do it. I'm not trying to get searched. God. Austin Bergstrom is doing big things lately.
Starting point is 00:44:37 They're really stepping up their shit. Dude, I'm continually impressed with this airport. It's a fantastic airport. It's not Dallas Love, but I feel like they're just keeping an eye on dallas love and being like what are they doing all right let's do that austin bergstrom's bigger than love right it's gotta be i don't know man it's just one big ass terminal you have to get on a tram and you go you know all the local food like a lot of the restaurants they're putting in there i'm i'm a big fan of it's so easy that's smart that's a smart move it's fucking great great they do need
Starting point is 00:45:05 okay we don't need to go give people a little taste of the local flay even if they're just passing through yeah you love that local flay
Starting point is 00:45:11 but most people like that's Austin's not like a connection airport though you know what I mean I don't know it's not a major hub I did something
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Starting point is 00:45:34 know what this is i can't believe i'm doing this but i'm just gonna go to taco deli instead of like go home drop my stuff off go get tacos somewhere else it made way more sense no one is doing that i have my luggage with me i carried on because i'm a carry-on boy now airport tacos i love that yeah it was big you probably spend about 90 of your life in underwear yep you say that's fair i think i do more than that i'm like closer to 99 i'm kind of a never nude in that sense i always have underwear on so don't you think you owe it to yourself to make sure you're wearing the softest undies in town? That's why we only wear me undies. These things are soft.
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Starting point is 00:46:28 Sometimes I go all the way to the ground. I mix it up. Really? Yeah. See well now they have this new cut It's the same boxer brief cut that they used to have but now it has the gate. Mm-hmm. That's a game changer for me Oh, yeah Me undies is a go-to for the softest loungewear on the planet. They even have lounge pants and onesies. Can you fathom this? I feel like Dylan... I could see Dylan walking around the house in a onesie.
Starting point is 00:46:53 Oh, for sure. He and the homie doing it out of solidarity with each other. I would go hard in that onesie. I just don't have one. I got the pajama pants on. I think they could hook you up. The pajama pants are super dope. They are.
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Starting point is 00:47:50 Time for you to go away? Time for me to take a step back. There have been people asking for my playlist. Are you guys ready for what I'm going to do this week? I mean, I think you're going to tell us what you want. How long do you think you guys are going to go for? This was the series finale, so if you guys want to go a decent amount of time, I can accommodate. I'm going to guess what you're going to listen to.
Starting point is 00:48:10 I bet you have a Lilith Fair Spotify playlist. I kind of did Lilith Fair last week. Who the fuck is that? It's a festival. Dude, you never went to Lilith Fair? No. It was started by the Indigo Girls. I think Indigo Girls and like sarah mclaughlin
Starting point is 00:48:26 i've lost interest already what what are you gonna well you asked the question yeah dude you now i'm moving on because the questions suck i'm gonna start off okay are you ready for this i'm gonna start off with my own worst enemy by lit good song i'm gonna follow that up with one week by the bare naked ladies terrible They are a truly trash band. Then I'm going to do Peaches by the President of the United States of America. Don't hate that. Then, if I have time, we're going Marcy Playground's Sex and Candy. All right, just do it then.
Starting point is 00:48:57 Let's fucking go. Dude, how about that brand guy last night? Would you get the fuck out of here, man? Strap up already. Hurry up. The headphones should be out. Oh, man? Strap up already. Hurry up. The headphones should be out. Oh, that's going to hurt people's ears. No, it's not.
Starting point is 00:49:09 It hurts mine. That's me unzipping my bows. You're dragging this out way too long. It's not all about you right now, dude. I'm going to start dropping spoilers if you don't hurry up. I'm going to make this... Trust me. As someone who was on Twitter last night...
Starting point is 00:49:22 Yeah, it was a bad night. You know what happened? Yeah. Call that bread moldy because it's spoiled okay um that's can we delete that oh i just plugged into the thing i fucked up that was weird i hope that didn't we're good all right so i'm gonna go yeah bye let me know can you guys just give me like a quick wave yeah let me do it every time. Okay. Yeah. Let me know. No, we will. Go ahead. Let me know. Go away.
Starting point is 00:49:46 All right, bye. All right, Dave. Will unintentionally was doing kind of a brand joke right there where he said, All right, I'm going to go. Go away. The only thing he was missing was like rolling his eyes back in his head. I'm going to go now. I'm going to go.
Starting point is 00:50:03 The finale of Game of Thrones, the critically acclaimed series. Do you have an overall impression? Did you enjoy how it ended? I don't mind how everything ended. I don't mind how everyone ended up in the show. I should say that. Like where the pieces fell. I don't hate that.
Starting point is 00:50:24 I do. Okay. Again, how they got there, showing their work or not showing their work, was weird. I thought the first 20, 25 minutes of the episode were fantastic. I agree. We got Hellitarian,
Starting point is 00:50:43 which anytime you get big time peter dinklage episodes that's a good thing he's the best actor in the show he's awesome he's the best character tyrian was awesome yes i agree and i thought man as i'm watching it i'm like this is about to be this is about to make up for an entire season of meh but then it got weird and then things happened very very quickly yeah and i think i liked it more than you did so i'll let you just go ham yeah when john stuck danny and then drogon shows up and you know burns down the throne and then carries her away up until that point i was so on board with the episode i was like was like, this is going really well. It's going to end, you know, like it should.
Starting point is 00:51:32 And then it just fell apart for me. I just feel, overall, I feel totally unfulfilled with how the thing ended. Where did you realize, at what moment did you realize like oh no this episode might not be great when basically when it when john and to be fair this might have been further into the episode but when john was cast off to the night's watch for to live out the rest of his life i was like no hold hold the fuck on first of, the whole Jon is the heir to the throne in the Targaryen, that storyline, which was a major, major
Starting point is 00:52:09 storyline, they just completely punted it. The last two episodes, they just got completely punted. Why? Pretty much the only purpose it served was to put Dany over the edge. Okay, but they have to wrap that up better. Well, I mean, that's kind of the thing with this.
Starting point is 00:52:25 Now that they've got a small council, more on that later, to pick who's apparently going to, you know, it's the electoral college. They're going to pick the president. Yeah, they're doing it. Pick the king. They don't, you know, bloodlines don't matter, I guess, for a little while. But before that happened, before Bran was named the king per the votes john was still technically the heir to the throne as he was sitting in a prison cell he didn't want
Starting point is 00:52:55 it and i understand that he he you know killed the queen and that there's punishment for that but as as the heir and the guy who clearly is best suited in my opinion to run the whole damn show as king they just did him dirty so i knew i started to immediately worry as soon as they went from uh drogon picking up danny and flying away to tyrian in his cell and once i realized that a bunch of time had passed because he looked pretty weathered and stuff I was like oh we just did a big jump forward that's always a red
Starting point is 00:53:32 flag in Game of Thrones world for me because they usually leave out a lot of crucial stuff and I end up having a bunch of questions which that's where I'm at now and they just roll out Tyrion to the small council and it's like here's tyrian here's the guy he's a traitor whatever y'all want to do with him and then he just he has a great monologue but
Starting point is 00:53:56 it's like they're just gonna let this guy who's in shackles come out and and and pick the king or like tell everybody what to do while john snow is still in a prison cell which okay so i guess we have to go back and think okay so john after doing that i guess he went up to gray worm and was like man i just killed danny and and the dragon and her dragon flew off with her yeah so yeah tyrian was allowed out there in the small council meeting, deciding, you know, the king. And Jon's not. I understand that maybe their crimes were a little bit different. It's weird to think about Jon and how Grey Worm,
Starting point is 00:54:35 who has been fully on board with everything Dany wants to do, including burning down millions of people. But when he found out that Jon killed her, and he's had beef with john for the last two episodes now they almost came to blows at the beginning of this one and he just was like all right man we got to take you into custody like are you i don't know i feel like gray worm is would probably have like tried to fight john tried to kill john right there but that's i know that's like fan fiction they didn't. We're, we have to fill in the blanks there,
Starting point is 00:55:05 but it's just, it's weird. So like what they put them in, they put them in jail and then it's like, all right, we're just going to wait for the, um, all the Lords and ladies to come into town and they'll figure out what to do
Starting point is 00:55:14 with you. And I understand that right before Danny was killed, that she named gray worm. What was it? Master of war, master of war, master of war. Um,
Starting point is 00:55:22 and he was commander of all the armies. Like, okay, dope title. I get it. But why does what he had to say carry so much weight in the small council? I know he has an army at his back. And he's like, we're not going to sit here and justice needs to be served for Jon Snow killing Dany.
Starting point is 00:55:39 I get that. But there's a new king. And when the king says, goes. Yeah. And that happened king says, goes. Yeah. And that happened in Westeros. And so that part, I even tweeted about it. That made Grey Worm being like, no, we will not accept Jon being a free man. Bullshit, you're not.
Starting point is 00:55:58 That was Bran making peace. Jon's a fucking hero. Yeah, Jon's getting cucked big time. Not to mention Grey Worm just basically committed a war crime killing innocent people in the streets like fuck what the fuck's going on here well apparently I mean John's literally saved humanity twice yeah basically and yeah I mean he's he's getting smoked on this deal best suited to run to run the show to sit on the throne again he doesn't want it but but... Neither did Bran.
Starting point is 00:56:25 Neither did Bran, although that's why Bran came down. Because he's level-headed and doesn't make decisions with emotion and has stories in his brain. That's not good enough for me. The dude doesn't even talk. He just sits there and stares. He was weird that he was a little bit more personable this episode. He had some one-liners.
Starting point is 00:56:46 But he was still his weird self. I know. I just don't understand why they think Bran is best suited for this. And did Bran have some bronzer on? Did Bran not look a little bit like, I guess maybe getting down in the south, like he got a little bit more sun? But, yeah, man. The small council scene was probably the worst part of the entire episode.
Starting point is 00:57:06 Because it was just, it was awkward. We got the funny Tully, Edmure Tully. That was funny. Which, at first I thought maybe he was going to go up and like, nominate Sansa. Yeah. And then it was like, oh, this guy really thinks it's going to be him. Yeah. That was good.
Starting point is 00:57:22 That was maybe the one thing of that small council scene that was decent. to be him yeah that was a good that was good that was maybe the one thing of that small council scene that was decent another thing that i i saw a bunch of people talking about on twitter was saying how one of them sticks out is she she said this show ended perfectly she said john's where he's supposed to be he's up north sansa you know is the queen of the north that's where she's supposed to be didn't have to really fight too hard to get the North to secede, huh? Arya is a wanderer. She just wants to travel the world doing weird shit. So their arguments were
Starting point is 00:57:50 it ended like it was supposed to. Everyone's where they're supposed to be. When has that been the Game of Thrones way? If you've been following along, you always expect the unexpected and it always happens because that's just the way
Starting point is 00:58:02 George R.R. Martin writes. What if like meta level that is the unexpected? That ended up like that but no that's not how it's supposed no it's just totally unfulfilling that fucking brand is the king explain me why that's a good option i just i just um at least we got to see uh at least we got to see robin uh grown up hot robin yeah the uh breast milk kid yeah well it's his last what's it robin air i don't remember i don't remember his fucking last name we got to see torman and ghost that was torman uh didn't give him any lines oh here's another thing um why is there a night's watch still they even asked that in the show yeah i guess there's just always gonna be a night's watch i don't it's just tradition and you gotta have a place to put
Starting point is 00:58:50 your your scrubs and your castaways and if he's cast off to you know castle black why why are him in torment like he was there for two minutes and they just took off that wasn't clear so is john abandoning the watch and going north yeah i don't know they didn't make that clear at all and i don't think that there's a implication there he's gonna live out the rest of his life with the wildlings north of the wall can i just say that north of the wall like they spent all this time trying to get south of the wall and i know it's because you know the walkers and stuff but north of the wall fucking sucks it's just ice you can live in if
Starting point is 00:59:25 you want to be like in the cold you don't have you can just stay near the wall south of the wall it's still pretty cold and snowy up there what if the wall is terrible terrible where are they going don't know it's up to you to figure it out to decide uh i don't know. I feel like... I feel a little bit unfulfilled. I don't hate how... I actually don't care. I don't care what they did with all the Starks running the world, basically. I mean, because that's what's happening, right?
Starting point is 00:59:57 Like, Sansa's running the North. Although Arya, I've seen it teased that she's most likely to have a spinoff down the road road like her adventures which I don't think I'm here for that I'm not canceling it but I may not be here for it don't usually hold up no and like
Starting point is 01:00:13 I feel like everybody they're probably done with it maybe Ari is the most likely to want to do that but oh man look I love the show still but the last season and specifically the last episode, it's going to change the way I look back on it. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:00:32 I mean, I just feel so unfulfilled. All the shit that led up to that moment ended just with a total dud. It was a total dud. We got some good memes out of Brianne writing the history of Jamie. Yeah, that was funny. In the Book of Brothers the history of Jaime. Yeah, that was funny. In the Book of Brothers or whatever it is. Yeah, that was good. That was a really good scene.
Starting point is 01:00:51 Yeah. Also, man, I was thinking more Tyrion. The Tyrion scene with Bronn and the rest of the... Small council. Small council. that was tight um when when uh danny landed on drogon and spoke to the armies and then the whole tyrian you know throwing the his little whatever you call it down the steps that was a great scene too i thought we were gonna get a real-time execution i thought he was getting toasted right there i thought that
Starting point is 01:01:23 gray worm was gonna maybe throw a spear through his face something awful yeah didn't happen though they just took him away why why didn't she just kill him she that's her way that's what she should have made an uh made of uh what made a scene of it or like made a symbol of him like look look this is what a traitor in front of everybody committed treason and then he openly disrespected her right in her face in front of her entire army she's like take him away like no you gotta kill this get this guy out of here i mean he was basically asking for it i mean he's wanted he wanted to die i think right um i did like that the targaryens had that banner ready to hang they're hanging that like right up like where she came out of like they had the big black Targaryen banner hanging.
Starting point is 01:02:05 It's like, wow, they hung that banner pretty quick. Yeah. Retired some jerseys. What else? I don't know, Dave. I mean, that's about it. I'm going to go back and I'm going to re-watch the entire show and really, really, really enjoy the first five seasons
Starting point is 01:02:23 and then just try to look for for the positives in the last two i just hate that that's the last taste of that amazing amazing series is and it ends like that like the starks they're never going to see each other again it's just split up they did they did the best of what they could do with six episodes although apparently they didn't do the best because didn't they find a water bottle didn't they leave a water bottle on this they did how does that happen how does that happen twice in the same season is somebody gonna write a book like or do like a history of like the last season of game of thrones and talk about how it was in fucking chaos
Starting point is 01:03:01 like is there shit behind the scenes that we don't know about like were they like behind schedule and they were rushing because i don't understand how you make that mistake twice leaving fucking bottles of water and starbucks cups in scenes there weren't that many scenes there was only six episodes yeah and also you get to like the the uh democracy undertones oh Sam getting up there and getting laughed out of the gym? Yeah, but even after he got laughed out of the gym, they still basically reverted to a democratic philosophy.
Starting point is 01:03:36 You still have the aristocratic hierarchy of the nobles, like the lords. But at least there's an election process now. That's true. I mean, it's, yeah. But I don't know. I don't know if if we're gonna get any kind of fiction afterward if we're gonna get like uh uh you know the story of what happens during brand's rule brand's got to be the weakest king ever right yeah i mean no one i don't think people fear brand maybe they fear him because he's
Starting point is 01:04:01 a fucking weirdo but like i people going to be cool with living that living under him like i don't know and the other the other um like dorn and and the iron islands are they going to see what uh sansa pulled like like hey i'm leaving take the north we're gone are they going to try to pull that shit too because didn't uh iron who's uh theon's sister they had a deal with dannany to be an independent kingdom. So what happens with that? I don't know. I wanted her and Arya to go to blows.
Starting point is 01:04:33 I want to see that fight. Oh, she didn't want that Arya. She did not want that. I don't know, man. I didn't... Again, a lot of flaws as we just got into. I didn't hate how everybody ended up, but... An amazing show.
Starting point is 01:04:48 God, I want five more episodes. The last season, although rushed and deserves some of the criticism it got, I still enjoyed it. But the last episode, I just hated the way it ended. I think I might re-watch that season first because I think I might really enjoy that season a lot more knowing what I know about this season yeah there was some brilliance mixed in though this final season people don't want to
Starting point is 01:05:09 hear that this season wasn't great like there's a big backlash about people criticizing it I know a lot of people are criticizing it just to troll and they may not even be that into Game of Thrones so it's a lot of people who weren't into Game of Thrones at all are using this to kind of flex like glad I didn't waste my time. Yeah. So they're having a field day with it. But in reality, this didn't ruin the show for me. No, no.
Starting point is 01:05:32 I'm still going to remember it fondly. It's still a very enjoyable watch all the way through. If you go in and latch on to certain characters who are great actors, like Peter Dinklage, like the woman who plays Cersei, you're going to get a lot of good out of that show. Oh, Tyrion pulling the rocks off of his siblings.
Starting point is 01:05:48 That was a great scene. That was a great scene, too. Did you think we were going to get the shredder Jemmy putting his hand up? No, I knew they were toast. Yeah, that would have been a little much. It was interesting that I thought the entire basement there was caved in.
Starting point is 01:06:01 You know what I mean? There was a lot of parts of that basement that were spared. The opening scene where he's just walking through like all the carnage of the city was pretty pretty powerful too yeah some very good moments um like i said the first i don't know 20 or so minutes of the maybe 30 were really good but the way it wrapped up i'm just not on board with when the unsullied and dr ackey like get on their ships and go to whatever island they were talking about they just show up and like they're like all right here we are this is our new like what what kind of society do they have i don't know like and what are the people who are like living on that island think like oh fuck like who who is this who got here by the way
Starting point is 01:06:41 there are so many dothraki left i don't know how that happened yeah that yeah i feel like uh it was it was too many last episode and then this episode it seemed like they just 100 000 yeah i thought we lost like almost everybody at the winterfell but maybe not all right well we're gucci how'd that go are you guys sure you don't have more i just started 3 a.m by matchbox 20. great tune i do have some questions kate when the bare naked ladies were talking about golf in their seminal hit one week what do you think they meant when they said that they were gonna find the kind with the tiny nubs so their irons aren't always flying off the backswing. Like,
Starting point is 01:07:26 what are the, are the nubs on the grips? Well, we just went hard on Game of Thrones. Dude, I don't want to talk about Barenaked Ladies. They're one of the worst bands
Starting point is 01:07:32 of the late 90s. No, they're not. You just can't do that. You just think that because of one week. Will, I'm reeling
Starting point is 01:07:38 from Game of Thrones talk. Old apartment, shoebox, dude, come on. Come on. Come on. Come on.
Starting point is 01:07:44 Dude, you being a B naked lady stan is i don't know if this is something you come back from i stand the kings for sure okay i also i also had time because you guys did such a good job i had time to do mighty mighty boss tones the impression that i get terrible life that, man. That song's kind of privileged. Which song? They've never had to knock on wood. Must be nice. Yeah, like you've lived a very good life up to that point
Starting point is 01:08:11 if you've never had to knock on wood. Mighty Mighty Boston's, man. Did you ever go through a ska phase? I owned some ska albums, but I never got fully in. I owned real big Ph big fish albums i think you know i didn't less than jake uh yeah but i know i it was too much i didn't take the leap right into ska i will say that less than jake was one of the biggest draws for me when it came to warp tour i feel like ska kids got their asses kicked well dude i mean that's because they probably put less
Starting point is 01:08:43 than jake very close to where they put like dropkick Murphys in the lineup. Yeah. And so you had a bunch of like dudes, like 250-pound dudes with shaved heads just rolling up to a bunch of Scott kids who were trying to skank. And like those things don't mix. They don't mix at all. Yeah, you're just getting your ass beat. Like the dropkick guys are like getting in the pit and they're like, it's just like fishing a barrel. Speaking of, did y'all see the greatest knockout in boxing history over the weekend?
Starting point is 01:09:11 It was tweeted Saturday night. If you were on Twitter, you saw it a hundred fucking times. Sage? Wilder? Dude. We got to talk Sage. How many people tagged you in the Sage knockout? Too many.
Starting point is 01:09:21 Yeah, I was talking about Deontay Wilder. No, I missed that. You didn't see it? No. I wasn't on Twitter Saturday. Dylan? I just saw the highlight. You saw the knockout though?
Starting point is 01:09:31 Yeah. Okay. Pretty brutal. Is he related to Van? That's not funny. Did he get knocked out? No, dude. No.
Starting point is 01:09:43 What round? First round. First. What round? First round. First. Same with Sage. KO. I would tell you to look it up, but you just go on Twitter, type in Wilder. You're going to see it. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:09:54 Yeah, we did see that Super Sage got knocked out in the first round, coincidentally, of his first fight at 1FC over in Asia. It's hard to watch. Do you think his head's just not been in the game ever since he got that Street Fighter fame? No. He's gotten clipped before. Do we have like the opposite effect of no laying up on athletes? Because like all their golfers get the no laying up bump where they like.
Starting point is 01:10:25 This is his first L since he came on the pod. I know. That's true. That's true. Yeah, this is not attributable to us. Okay. Our hands are washed. I would put this on a very, very poor striking defense because we saw the video.
Starting point is 01:10:41 Did you see the surgery? He had a nine-hour surgery to fix his face. No. Sage? Yeah. Did they live stream the surgery? Holy shit. They-hour surgery to fix his face. No. Sage? Yeah. Did they live stream the surgery? Holy shit. They didn't Beto it. Beto 100% would have done that surgery live.
Starting point is 01:10:50 He definitely would have because he's a content guy. Poor Sage. Can you imagine Beto just doing nine-hour reconstructive surgery live on Instagram? I would not watch that because that's one where they have to peel the skin and they have to replace the orbital bone. Not good. Yeah, Sage. Dude, Sage's face got fucked up. Damn.
Starting point is 01:11:11 He got fucking murked. We still love you, Sage. I think the Mighty Mighty Boss Tome said it perfectly in regards to Sage when they said, have you ever felt a pain so powerful, so heavy you collapse? Oh, he did. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:11:22 It's time to wrap up. You got to think he didn't knock on wood before this this fight man that's real i feel really bad for him why because he's the nicest dude ever yes he's a he's a he's getting he gets wrong man people i don't know i think a lot of people want to see him fail because the ufc they brought him up too quickly it wasn't his fault i think a lot of people like to see him fail because he's so bubbly and fake. I think they think he's fake, but he's not. He's not, though. He's just kind of a different human.
Starting point is 01:11:51 He definitely is. He's a fucking golden retriever. Yeah. Yeah, this is tough. But don't listen to what Deadspin says about it being minor league MMA fight. One FC is not a minor league organization they're fucking huge they've got great fighters over there dude did you just add deadspin i did well dude it made me it made me mad it's like they used it for like to make sage look worse like it was a a small time
Starting point is 01:12:16 like he was fighting in um i don't know whatever's below bellator here like some shit in some guy's backyard it's like dude 1fc is a premier organization it's not as big as ufc but it's it's a big organization you got mighty mouse fighting over there eddie alvarez whatever man how is deadspin still alive i mean i still i still check it i still read a little i i don't always read it but i always like to see what their takes are just because i want to see which barstool guy they're putting on blast which seems to be like every other week right it's a big part of what their their content strategy yeah it's just it's just weird that they haven't got to the point where they're like all right let's shut it down well i don't know how they're doing they've even written about how financially they're not doing well i don't know i don't know how much of that
Starting point is 01:13:02 fault is their content they still have a huge audience but yeah not a minor league organization Dylan is there any truth to the fact that you applied for a job at Deadspin before we started
Starting point is 01:13:15 circling back isn't this a bit that belonged to somebody else at some point no you're thinking of Meatspin oh that was
Starting point is 01:13:22 you did Meatspin Dylan wants to get out of here I'm so ready to get out of here I'm so ready I think the ska talk and then that yeah really you should probably just lop that just lop it off clean after the game of thrones talk okay that's the impression that I get oh all right Dylan should we leave? Yes. Hey, look for us on Patreon tomorrow. Catch us.
Starting point is 01:13:50 Yes, if you're watching The Bachelor tonight. If you're still listening. If you're watching The Bachelorette tonight. Dude, everyone's still listening. People want these takes. Are we getting real Cat Pat on Twitter? Real Cat Pat will be firing out tweets on Twitter. I don't know what my plan is. I don't have a party like I did last week planned.
Starting point is 01:14:03 So I think I might just be watching from my couch, which is unfortunate. Oh, yeah, you did watch it with the... It was kind of fun. It was kind of fun doing that. Oh, well. But, yeah, we'll be live. We'll be on Patreon tomorrow.
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