Circling Back - Will's A Dad
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What's up podcast fans?
This is Dave.
Welcome to the Circling Back podcast presented by Busy Hard Seltzer.
The only hard seltzer with vitamin C and super fruit, acerola.
I nailed that.
Today's going to be a fun one.
I'll be filling in for Will here on the board.
And we got big game Brett in the building.
Brett Merriman, hi.
That's me.
Thank you for having me on the Circling Back podcast. Happy to be here be here decided that the cold front came through i'll cover dave's weather
takes so just just i'm happy to be here dave thanks for having me dylan's here yeah interesting
that brett got the uh intro before me again true to form uh well is it it's it's going to be a
heavy brett episode i think if you've looked at the rundown, you'll notice that his name pops up many times.
Well, I've been your co-host for going on five years now, so it's whatever.
I'm still glad to be here.
It's weird how much has happened since the last time we were in here.
So much has happened since yesterday morning around the world and our personal lives, all that stuff.
What's your personal life?
What happened? Nothing with mine, really. Oh, okay. Yeah personal lives, all that stuff. What's your personal life? What happened?
Nothing with mine, really.
Oh, okay.
Yeah.
Well, that's good.
But our dear friend Will, a lot has happened with him.
We'll get to it.
Did you finally go get your back checked out or something?
No.
The back is still jacked up.
Okay.
I probably won't go until I can't walk.
Yeah, that seems like a little bit of a miss.
I feel like it's just an easy adjustment
thing. You can just go have your guy
Dr. Bob just blow it
out. Well, yeah, but it's
a recurring thing.
It's not like something happened
and it's got it out of whack.
I'm dealing with this thing for the rest of my life
probably. It sucks.
I have a masseuse down the street.
She walks on your back.
It's crazy.
You know, weirdly, after my massage in Cabo, not to brag, but to brag, that's when it started really hurting.
Oh.
So I don't really know.
You think that this masseuse, you're blaming this on the masseuse.
I'm not blaming it on the masseuse.
I'm saying that during the massage, something happened, and it's caused me pain moving forward.
Emotional or physical?
Physical.
Got it.
Emotional.
I was in a great place.
You know, if you listened to The Worst Of from yesterday, available only on Patreon,
you would have heard a story about a masseuse.
It was more of a red herring, extraneous info inside of the story.
It doesn't really tie in with the rest of it.
Just kind of an unnecessary detail.
Chekhov's gun, right, Dave?
Yeah.
I was expecting it to circle back, if you will.
Right.
But it doesn't.
But check that out.
One of the better ones.
A lot of people say in our last couple weeks of Worst Of have been some of the best content we've done.
So go to patreon.com slash what?
Circling Back?
Something like that.
It's Circling Back Podcast.
Circling Back Podcast.
I should know that by now.
It's not super user-friendly, but I think people understand.
That's fine.
Hey, some programming notes.
The next few weeks, we're partnering with LLS, the Leukemia and Lymphoma Society.
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So check that out. That's a really cool deal we're doing. Don't think we've ever done anything
like this. Yeah. Get some money together. Shouts to our guy, Mike Eisenhower, getting us involved
with them, of Eisenhower's fame. I mean, not to name drop, but shots for a guy mike eisenhower getting us involved with them
of eisenhower's fame i mean not the name drop but we know a guy who owns a bar on rainy street sure do one of the original bars on rainy you got a little bit of his name eisenhower kind of wish
you would have bought a house on rainy back in the day be a lot cooler if you did oh buddy imagine
dylan had a bar with his last name chevries no. No one would go. The Chev? It's not catchy.
Don't you have a blog called The Chev?
No.
The Chive is the one. Chev TV.
Chev On.
Chev TV.
People are saying Chev On now.
Really?
Yeah, for your last name.
It's a play on the Chive.
You hate this.
Chev was a nickname of my dad and my sister back when they were youngsters.
Really?
I never got that. I always thought it was a cool one. Chev. my sister back when they were youngsters. Really? And I never got that.
I always thought it was a cool one.
Shiv.
You know, shivery.
Wasn't that a spooky season nickname for you?
Little Shiv or something?
Something like that, I believe.
Like, I'm going to shiv you, you know?
Sure.
Yeah.
You ever do, like, Chevy jokes?
Chevrolet.
Dylan Chevrolet.
I heard that a bunch as a kid.
That's kind of lazy, honestly.
Yeah.
It's low-hanging fruit, for sure.
Yeah.
Anybody can make that joke.
Chivalry is dead.
You know, like chivalry.
Oh, I don't want you to die, though.
No, I'm very much alive still.
He's alive and well.
I'm sitting here talking to you right now.
Right.
You're cold.
You're shivering.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That, too.
Okay.
Are you guys excited for this pod today?
Eh.
Yes.
We got some breaking news. Not just Brett's breaking news. I'm not going to get to it yet. I'm going to make you guys excited for this pod today? Eh. Yes. We got some breaking news.
Not just Brett's breaking news.
I'm not going to get to it yet.
I'm going to make you guys wait.
And if you're on Twitter, you probably already know what I'm going to say.
But speaking of, follow at Circling Back Pod and at Washed Media on social media.
Is this about Randy going to Kohl's?
You can't just let me get to it, man.
You have to cut me.
It's big news, man.
Sorry.
People were talking about it.
What did you do at Kohl's, Randy?
Randy went to Kohl's yesterday.
Yeah.
Wow.
Tell us about it.
Why did you go to Kohl's, man?
What happened?
You're sending it to the group text.
It's got to be good enough for the pod.
Well, Kohl's remembered it was my birthday, so they
gave me $5 in Kohl's cash.
Wow. So Kohl's remembered and your
friends here at Wash Media did not remember.
Coworkers, but anyways. I feel like they have
a bot that tells
them. They have all your data
stored. We don't. It's just someone
in HR just scrolling through all the customer
database looking for birthdays. Look, it's Wacky
Trumbacki's birthday.
Yeah.
He's a big-time Kohl's Cash guy.
I'm a most valuable customer, according to my Kohl's credit card.
So what did you cop?
What's the interest rate on that?
It's quite fair.
I got some shorts.
And if you want to know a little more about shorts, go to Club Cool and listen to that with David Ruff.
Look at that.
Look at that plug.
So I got a pair of dock shorts.
Shorts that you dock in, Dylan.
Easy access.
Go ahead.
Sorry.
And just like an athletic tee.
That's pretty exciting stuff.
That's awesome an athletic tee. That's pretty exciting stuff. Man, that's awesome. It's $31.
And to be clear, for your birthday, they sent you $5 of Kohl's cash?
Yes.
So you had $5 you were playing with when you walked in.
You just went wild in there.
It was just burning a hole in my pocket.
Then I had the 30% off.
I couldn't pass up a deal like that.
$5 doesn't seem like a lot these days.
They get you in the door.
It's smart.
What's the Bed, Bath, and Body Works or whatever, Bed, Bath & Beyond?
You were close.
20% coupon that everybody has, and if you don't have one, you can just go print one or get it on your phone.
You remember the catalog you used to get with, like, pages upon pages of coupons?
My mom would coupon.
Oh, yeah.
And just load up at the G-Store.
You know those super couponers?
There's a term for it.
It's like their job.
And they'll end up going to a store and just get like $400 worth of groceries.
And it'll be like $1.50 or sometimes they'll even get money back on top of it.
It's wild.
Dylan, that's a good point. But I got to just circle back on something.
Brett.
Yeah.
Did you call it the G-Store?
Yeah, the grocery store.
Nobody calls it the G-Store.
Yeah, we're not doing G-Store.
Can we just get out in front of that?
You've never been to the G-Store?
I usually just say the store.
I eliminate the need to abbreviate or shorten the-
Brett's abbrevs are too much sometimes, man.
That's all right.
Sig-uh is probably the worst one. Yeah,'re my congregation i did he did yeah so god it
gets stuck though in your head you know yeah i've used it yeah since i'm sorry did you ever uh
growing up in in local sports maybe it was high school sports did you have to go like door-to-door
selling stuff to support the team?
Any time I had to sell stuff.
Not for the team, no.
I think I did stuff for school.
Okay.
I would just have my mom bring it to work with her,
and then by the end of the day, she would sell out. No one was playing select ball.
Right, yeah.
So they had the Easton sponsorship.
I wasn't much of a select ball guy, honestly,
because it was always during the summertime,
and I couldn't handle the heat, man.
I had to sit out.
It was bad.
I'm telling you.
You didn't play travel baseball because it was too hot?
Yeah.
So Chevrolet can't take the heat.
Is that why you didn't make the show?
That's kind of sad.
It is sad.
It was disappointing.
Were there any medications or like any, there was anything you can do?
No, I would just violently vomit everywhere okay go home
and uh it's not fun spend the next two days recovering with a pounding migraine oh all right
but that's kind of like the definition of leaving it all out there on the field so i don't know like
did you not really just care about the team it It seems like if I was a man with your athletic ability and talent,
I would have been like, yeah, I know I'm going to throw up blood
and possibly be down for the next few days,
but I'm going to go out there and I'm going to go three for four with, you know, two RBI.
The scary part about this is last time I had to go to the emergency room
because of my heat thing, they suggested that I go.
What's the brain doctor called?
The neurosurgeon or neurologist.
Neurologist, thank you.
He said, you probably should go see a neurologist about this.
And I didn't.
Why didn't you?
I don't know.
When was this?
This was probably six, seven years ago.
It was during a tailgate, actually.
I decided to tailgate in September, all day in the sun.
It was not a good idea.
Texas tailgate or Texas state tailgate in September all day in the sun. It was not a good idea. Texas tailgate or Texas State tailgate?
I wouldn't spend all day tailgating for Texas State, David.
I think you know that.
I don't think anybody does, honestly.
It's been a while.
The Bobcats don't need that.
They don't want you to.
What Spav's doing down there is pretty groundbreaking.
You're right.
A lot of grad transfers.
A lot.
The transfer portal, we're fucking it up.
Yeah.
Spend a lot of time in the portal. We fucking's gonna the transfer portal we're fucking it up yeah it's been a lot of time in the poor we fucking live in the transfer portal not so much in recruits homes well Dan that's sad no I'm good now dude I think
I don't know I just don't go in the heat I learned my lesson you've got good
brain I've always heard thank you I am very smart you make smart guy right
that's the best points
got that big old dome of yours right right you do have a kind of a big head I
do a big yeah who's got a bigger head you were Brett do I have a big head
that's good it's just like we're like seven between seven three quarters and
seven seven eights hat size I think seven and three eighths guys so you got
big at all I can can joke about your giant
heads because I have a tiny head.
So it balances it out.
It's not like I have an average size head.
Otherwise that would just be wrong.
You can't punch down when it comes to heads.
The old pinhead. Old pinhead looking ass.
You're proportional. It's a problem if you're
not proportional. Are you saying he has a small body?
No, no, no.
I'm saying you just have a normal sizesized head and a normal-sized body.
I'm proportional, right?
Yeah, well, you're hot.
My shoulders are too big for my body.
What's up with your shoulders, man?
This dude's all shoulders.
Yeah.
You notice how broad his shoulders are, Dave?
It's crazy.
They're very broad.
Broad-ass shoulders.
Broad-ass shoulders.
Thanks to Grandpa Sid for that.
This has been Tracking Packages with boys from Circling Back excluding will speaking of can i oh can i can this be brett's announcement uh let me let me
interrupt you i just wanted to just interrupt you real quick to be the first to congratulate
congratulates will congratulations to will will defer his new baby i was the first born on 4 20
2021 look uh we saw a picture of the young lad.
It is a boy.
He's a wee lad.
William Fritz DeVries III.
Some people were calling him WD3.
Right.
WFD, but WD3 works good.
I don't know who's calling him that.
But anyway.
I've seen some chatter on the morning talk shows I was listening to.
A handsome lad, for sure.
And may he be a
masculine child yes good-looking kid yeah very excited for
will congratulations will and Sally I think he looks just like well nah I
thought I see Sally oh okay Deb you make jokes about people like oh Rhodes looks
like you but dude Rhodes looks exactly like he does now, but when he's two hours out of the womb, it's like, dude, he looks like a kid who's been coming down the birth canal or whatever.
Dude, I feel like Rhodes, look at him now, he's about to start breaking into bits.
You're right.
Start doing faces and shit.
I cannot deny this.
He looks exactly like you.
No offense to Alyssa.
He looks like Alyssa, too, but that is your child all the way.
He just has joke face.
I love it.
It's like he's already funny.
Yeah.
He hasn't already talked yet.
You know what I mean?
He looks like he's already talking and telling jokes, Dave,
which is a testament to you and Alyssa.
He has a look on his face like,
I have so much funny shit to say, I still don't know how to talk yet,
but just wait.
When I learn how to form sentences
in words,
it's over for you all.
Yes, exactly.
That's how Rose looks.
Anyway,
so the guy who owns
the chillest fictional tiki bar in America
has a child at 420.
Imagine.
It's poetic.
It's amazing.
I don't know how thrilled Sally is about having a child on 420,
but the rest of us get to enjoy it.
It's perfect.
It's perfect.
I'm excited for Will and Sally.
Yeah.
I mean, we'll make a 420 joke, and we'll get out of it.
You know.
Everybody gets one.
Yeah.
Congratulations.
It's crazy because when I found out i was actually celebrating 420
i was just i was taking a cbd and when i found out i was like dude this is like crazy like
syncing up together so chill you do the delta force one no i didn't know it's delta eight
and that's uh that's i'm still not completely sure what that is i just i think it's a mark
walbert movie is it legal the kids like it it is and i think it's a Mark Wahlberg movie. Is it legal? The kids like it. It is.
And I think it's kind of just a loophole type deal.
Who knows?
That's sick.
It's a thing people are doing.
But either way, WD3 is in the house.
Yes.
In the building.
So Will will be out for the next couple weeks?
Yeah.
He says he wants to.
I think he might be a little bit more popping on i think he
i think he's kind of alluded to that okay maybe a little bit more uh on the grid than maybe i was
but i guess week two of my paternity leave was the uh the great freeze of 2021 yeah people forget
that how fun was that it was fun for about half a day, and then it got real.
It was cool until, like, you got your photos off with the dog and the kid,
everybody's out there, and then it's like, well, kind of want you to leave now.
Well, I wish the power would come back on.
Power, water, running water.
Water was a bummer.
Yeah, total bums.
I didn't have water.
That sucked.
You know what's cool?
During that whole deal, I almost panic bought a generator.
Not like the big dog generators, but just like something that could get us through.
And I didn't.
And now, Urquhart, the much maligned villain from the thing,
they're now saying that this summer might be a little dicey here.
Ooh.
They're saying rolling blackouts, which they've said that before.
Oh, my gosh.
Yeah.
That's not what your boy wanted to hear.
Sneaky shout-out to the Texas Power Grid.
Do you think they're going to give young WFD3 a nickname?
Trey?
Trip?
Anything like that?
Oh, Trip to Freeze sounds cool.
It can't be Trip.
Trip sounds like he's going to go down for insider trading. I have a friend's son who goes by Trip. Anything like that? Oh, trip to freeze sounds cool. It can't be trip. Trip sounds like he's going to go down for insider trading.
I have a friend's son who goes by Trip.
Oh, shout out to Trip.
I don't think he's going to be inside trading.
Okay.
What about outside trading?
Maybe.
They should have a good weather location for the stock market,
and you can do outside trading here's
outside chill scene tiki bar whole deal sure i mean i don't hate that dave i'm trying to think
of like where it's probably one of the dumber things i've ever said maybe over over uh international
waters perhaps like a cruise so you can't get convicted right okay yeah no you're good if you
make insider trade deals outside the lines.
Unless they send Interpol to get you.
Is that the International Police Force?
It is, which I still, like, do they ever catch Carmen Sandiego?
No, I think they're mostly just in like Bourne movies, right?
Yeah.
It feels like.
Randy just picked up his pencil for something.
What else we got?
Can I make my announcement yet or no?
Yeah, I thought I was trying to cut you.
Are we closing the book on the baby?
Yeah, this was totally unrelated.
Okay.
Boy, all accounts healthy.
The mom and the baby.
A healthy child.
Everything's looking good.
Everything's looking good.
We're very happy.
The squad gets bigger.
Doing numbers.
Squad doing numbers.
We were wrong.
I think Dylan and I both were on hashtag Lady to Freeze.
I was sure of it.
I was like, this is going to be a girl for sure.
I was leaning that way.
I was about 60-40 based on my algorithm, which failed me.
Right.
Just the whole squad having boys, man.
Dude, you know what the most annoying part of this is?
Is that my son Rhodes is significantly older than Will's son.
I know.
And that's going to be something that haunts him forever.
That haunts Rhodes?
Yeah.
Because you know you're significantly older than all of us, especially me.
You think they're both going to co-host the same podcast when they're older
and that's going to be a joke that happens?
They're going to be the meme of the three teenage white kids
sitting around with the backward hat,
and it looks like they're about to break down on some discussion.
Yeah.
That's going to be them.
100%.
It's basically like it is now with Parks, Rhodes, and Williams.
Parks is the elder statesman.
Like you are.
Well, again, nine months older than Dave,
so it's not really that much of a difference.
Oh, yeah, Parks is the old ass.
Don't forget about Parks, man.
They're going to call him old head.
Yeah, he's six years older than Rhodes.
Dude, they have a squad between Brittany's kid, Parks, these two.
We're rolling deep, man.
Squad's getting big.
For those who don't know, if you're new here, Brittany is bae.
Brittany is bae.
Oh, I'm sorry.
No, I've said her name.
Oh, you did?
Okay.
I've said her name. you're allowed to say that yeah
bae bae she has a cute little daughter four years old yeah right would you like to would you like to
make your major announcement that everyone is going to be just on the edge of their seat i did
all right i will um i bumped into owen wilson this dav Wait, when did you bump into Owen Wilson?
Wait, are you serious?
Last weekend.
Wow.
Wow.
Wow.
He's filming a movie in Saratoga.
Wow.
Yeah.
Why are you just now telling us this?
Why didn't I know about this?
Because –
You didn't get a pic?
The weekend went a lot of different directions, so it kind of – it was the first night I was there.
But bumped into Owen Wilson.
Wow.
Wow.
Yeah, Saratoga's very nice.
It's very nice. So I didn't bump into him. He was on a bike bumped into Owen Wilson. Wow. Yeah, he's very nice.
So I didn't bump into him.
He was on a bike.
So that's way different.
He could have fallen off his bike if you bumped into him.
Right.
Yeah, I was in his way.
What kind of bike was it?
Was it a mountain bike or was it like the wedding crashers beach bike type deal?
Neither.
Not electric.
It was like one of those cool one speeds that the cool kids ride around in. Like Eastside Austin?
BMX? No. Like a BMX?
No.
Not a BMX.
Did the handlebar spin all the way around?
No, it didn't have pegs.
Oh, a gyro.
It's called a gyro.
Oh, really?
I had my bike.
I had that installed on my bike.
Never used it.
Did he have pegs on the back?
Nope, no pegs.
No one was pumping anybody?
What if he was pumping Vince Vaughn?
You know what pumping is a phrase not used anymore?
What do they call it?
There's not a term for it anymore.
Do you know what pumping is? Sure don it anymore. Do you know what pumping is?
Sure don't.
Randy, you know what pumping is?
See?
Isn't that weird?
It doesn't shock me.
Randy does not pump.
I made that joke.
Remember that touching base video we did?
It sounds dirty.
And I said, yeah.
I said, well, Will was pumping some dude.
It sounds like he's having sex with some dude, but really he was just letting, he was giving
a ride on the back of his bicycle.
Yeah, like thrusting.
Right.
But if you're on the back of someone's bike your feet on the pegs yeah you're
pumping them i think i hate that phrase it's not great really think thinking about it i think uh
in skater culture at least back in in the 90s and i was involved um when you were on the half
pipe or in like the bowl yeah you pump up to get that's how you got up and down like you'd
land and there's a knee bend you have to you at the you have to like do it at a certain time so
you you maintain your speed up the steep angle and then we called it pumping up and i don't know
if that's like uh but back back on the board back on the mean streets of northwest hills as a kid
yeah like you're going to you know to a friend's house and have my bike. Hey, can you give me a pump?
Like, it's common.
Oh, okay.
Pump me.
Give me a ride.
Let's pump over to-
Give me a ride on your bike.
Fonda San Miguel.
Give me a pump.
Well, we didn't go to Fonda.
It's an upscale interior Mexican restaurant.
Somebody pump me.
We were going to the card store a lot.
Oh.
I would spend all my lunch money on baseball cards.
Yeah.
That's tight.
Did you put them in the spokes of your bike?
I would just –
It's not at all what it sounds like.
I would sift through the packs looking for like a Mike Piazza rookie card
or something like that, and then I'm like, oh, this is sick.
And then I look it up in the Beckett, which was the value book booklet.
Kelly Blue Book for baseball cards.
Yes.
Good times.
Another word that's in that culture that i i don't like saying
uh when you're riding the back of a car on a skateboard skitching skitching yeah love skitching
that sounds dirty too yeah i'm gonna skitch it sounds better than pumping yeah but i think most
people there was a there was actually a an old sega game called skitching really you remember
that nope i think it was actually rollerblades, though. So you would latch on,
you'd be rollerblading down the road, you'd grab onto the back
of cars, and you had weapons,
and you had chains,
and you would just
assault other skaters for some
reason. Pretty good game.
Actually, we'd like to run that one back.
Yeah, if you'd call it, like, hey,
Dave's such a skitch. That sounds
mean, right? Dude, Dylan's kind of a skitch. It sounds like sketch. Yeah, if you'd call it like, hey, Dave's such a sketch. That sounds mean, right?
Dude, Dylan's kind of a sketch.
It sounds like sketch.
Yeah, it does.
Yeah, I don't want to be called that, whatever it means.
Dylan's never sketched before.
No.
I pump, though.
Pump, pump it up.
Was that really your announcement?
You saw him riding a bike?
No, like I had to move out of his way.
Hey, man, that's sick.
Was he wearing a helmet?
No.
Oh, wow. Glasses, a hoodie, and sweatpants. How do you know way. Hey, man, that's sick. Was he wearing a helmet? No. Oh, wow.
Glasses, a hoodie, and sweatpants.
How do you know it's him, man?
Because it looked exactly like him.
Yeah, that's the famous Owen Wilson nose.
And I was like, Owen Wilson, Saratoga.
And it's like, oh, yeah, he's in Saratoga filming.
What's he filming?
A movie called Paint.
It's a comedy where I guess it's sort of like a Bob Ross comedic spinoff.
Sounds interesting.
Do a little test too.
Togues.
In the Togues.
Yeah, filming.
Very cool.
That was a really awesome story.
Dave seemed excited before he dropped his phone.
So I don't know.
Okay.
You're going to blame it on the phone.
I'm so excited.
That's what it was.
No, it's okay.
I saw Vince Young riding a bike on 360 one time.
I saw Lance Armstrong riding a bike on 360 one time. I saw Lance Armstrong riding a bike on 360 one time.
Noted good bike.
How did you know it was him?
Because I feel like 90% of dudes who ride bikes in Austin, at least on 360, which is
a very hilly highway here.
He was next to me at a red light.
Oh, really?
And I'm a super recognizer.
It was very much Lance Armstrong.
Yeah.
Any other dumbass questions?
Did you roll down your window and say,
hey, what's up, man?
Love what you're doing.
I said, hey, man, you know how to work that thing?
Talking about his bike.
Yeah.
He's like, actually, yeah, I've done it quite a bit.
It's a five-time, right?
Five-time Tour de France champion.
If I were to make a dark joke after that,
I saw Cedric Benson riding a bike on 360.
That would be the dark joke if I were to make it.
I'm not going to.
It's not funny.
Right.
Okay.
I had forgotten about all that.
RIP.
Dude, one of the best to ever do it.
Texas high school football.
Best high school football player I've ever seen.
I think that's him.
Live?
Yeah.
I saw him live.
He destroyed Duncanville in the playoffs.
He destroyed Westlake in the state championship.
The term unstoppable gets thrown around a lot in high school football
and I guess just in sports.
He was unstoppable.
He was a man amongst boys.
That makes sense.
I'm going to have to go check out his highlight tape,
if that's floating around.
It's probably really low quality.
Midland Lee.
Midland Lee? Midland Lee. Oh, yeah they the panthers uh they were the rebels right i don't know if they are anymore i don't know eric winston also on the
same team buffalo bill eric winston miami miami the u oh he was this was he was in the seventh
floor crew wasn't he he might have been before okay but uh yeah they uh he. Oh, he was in the seventh floor crew, wasn't he? He might have been before.
Okay. But yeah,
he was a tight end in high school.
Big fella. And then they bulked him up.
Former Texans great as well.
Good for him.
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This next segment is titled, The Brands Are Back.
So yesterday was an interesting day.
So I got to the gym, and then someone texted me and said, hey, the verdict is in.
Of course, the verdict is from the George Floyd, Derek Chauvin trial.
Convicted on all counts.
Convicted on all counts.
And I guess the verdict dropped at like 4 p.m. Central.
We were at the gym.
We were at the gym together.
Not to brag, I was under the squat rack hitting some squats.
So there's a wall of TVs at the gym, and one out of – there are probably 20 on this wall,
and one out of every five or six has it on.
So it got the attention of a lot of people at the gym
and kind of like a stop what you're doing and look up and see what's going on,
even though there was no volume, there were subtitles, so we were kind of following along.
But interesting, one of those where were you moments
because it captured everyone's attention.
There was some cheering going on.
Pretty interesting.
Yeah, that was kind of cool, man.
So I was, to tell you how I consume media and news,
I had Twitter open, just constantly refreshing it, waiting to see what happened.
And I heard, I'm not going to say the entire gym erupted into cheers, but like a significant amount started cheering.
And that's kind of how I knew.
And then I was peeping Twitter, but that was a cool moment.
Yeah, it was.
But how some brands deal with stuff like this is always kind of fun.
Because you're just like, you're amazed at how, I'm speaking of course about the Las Vegas Raiders.
Yes.
You're amazed at how this kind of stuff still happens.
Because I feel like this has been going on for decades, since Twitter came around.
Like it's just in every quarter some brand gets dunked on for just some tone-deaf tweet.
Well, the Raiders yesterday tweeted, and it's still up.
It was pinned.
It is no longer pinned.
Let me pull this up.
It is an all-black text, or excuse me, white text on a black backdrop that says,
I can breathe for 2020-2021.
Yes.
Of course, a play on I can't breathe.
That is what they went with.
That's what they went with.
Yeah.
Mark Davis, owner Mark Davis, goofy haircut guy.
Someone got a quote from him very quickly about this tweet, and he owned it.
He said, yeah, that's my tweet.
He says, didn't mean to offend anybody, and the tweet's staying up, is basically what he said.
Can I ask this?
Has Mark Davis ever sent a tweet in his life?
Does he tweet?
Is he a known tweeter?
Because, I mean, just based upon the look of the guy, it doesn't seem like he does a lot of tweeting.
He seems like an 8chan guy to me.
Okay.
So you're saying he's very online.
He seems like, I'm going to like this porn tweet not knowing people can see me liking this porn tweet guy.
That's a Mark Davis.
100%.
Yep.
Absolutely.
Okay.
Well, somebody designed this for him.
What I'm saying is people approve this.
People either – okay. So he owns a team, obviously, right?
Yes.
So if he sent this down to their graphic design person, like,
hey, can you whip this up?
I got this great idea.
It's really going to show where we stand on this.
They were never going to be like, I don't know if this is a good idea.
I'm assuming, like many NFL franchises, he has a lot of yes men around him.
You would imagine so.
Yeah, that chain of command gets lined up pretty quickly if boss men want something.
I can't believe it.
Like I said, it was pinned until this morning.
They pinned the tweet.
They felt so good about it, they went ahead and pinned it.
First of all, no one's doing that.
Have you ever pinned a tweet?
I don't know if I've ever pinned a tweet in my life.
I have, but it's been a long time.
Maybe I pinned one of my early micro-viral tweets because I was like,
man, I'm real proud of myself.
Back when I had like 3,000 followers.
And now I'm like, I don't really have anything to pin.
I think that's kind of a weird move to pin your most viral tweet.
It's like, I don't know, it's more of like an act like you've been there before type deal.
Yeah, I had done that for sure at some point.
Well, at some point they removed it, and I've got to say,
shout out to the Raiders for not deleting it,
because it is potentially one of the all-time worst ratios I've ever seen, right?
I mean, like just all across the board, the number of quote tweets.
We're on nearly 70,000 quote tweets.
Only 7,900 retweets and, yes, 70,000 quote tweets.
So you've got to think most of those quote tweets are not in support of said tweet.
So a weird move.
It's funny to me that some brands just feel like they have to weigh in
on important matters um and they just they just don't i mean if you have something supportive and
to say great but it's not absolutely necessary like no one was like sitting around waiting for
the las vegas raiders to chime in on the derrick chauvin verdict i mean yeah at the end of the day you
don't have to tweet you don't have to you just you don't um i'm sure they meant well i don't
really know much about mark davis outside of just the the thousands of memes with him yeah um
but you'd think that you would maybe run this by somebody in your organization uh maybe you know
one of your black players or black employees that like could tell you hey man i don't know if this
is it here's why this is a terrible idea because it's a play on what the victim in this case was
saying and it's weird it's very weird very Very. There were multiple all-time misses yesterday, Nancy Pelosi being one of them.
I was going to say.
What was she doing?
If this was 2016, somebody would have done a hold my beer tweet.
I mean, she said that George Floyd sacrificed himself in the name of justice.
No, he didn't.
That's not really how that went down.
He was killed.
He was murdered now.
Yeah.
Officially. Literally. Yeah, literally yeah so yeah that was odd um i want to give a shout out here to our friend ted in pittsburgh
um who's been around for a long time he had a bad brand tweet hall of fame uh post that he did and
it just reminded me of some of the all-time most tone-deaf tweets. This one might be the GOAT. I remember where I was in the content alley when SpaghettiOs dropped this one on Pearl Harbor Day.
It said, take a moment to remember hashtag Pearl Harbor with us.
And then it's just a pic of a cartoon SpaghettiO holding the American flag.
It's not quite at the level, but it's the cartoon Spaghetti-O that does it for me.
Right.
I don't need to remember the thousands who lost their lives on the attack of Pearl Harbor
that seemingly got us into World War II, a very costly war.
I don't need your cartoon Spaghetti-O to commemorate that for me, personally.
I don't know.
I don't know how y'all feel about it.
Nope.
Another horrendous.
Somebody had to Photoshop the American flag into the SpaghettiO's hand, his clenched fist.
Yeah.
Kenneth Cole.
This one I was unfamiliar with.
Millions are in uproar and hashtag Cairo.
Rumor is they heard our new spring collection is now available online.
Oh, my gosh.
Of course course this is
during the arab spring right of uh a few years back um yep and i'm not sure that the uh this
the new spring collection at kenneth cole triggered the arab spring i heard that spring
collection was fire though so look here's you know it was fire but but like, come on, man. I don't think the facts are there.
Okay, this one is unbelievable.
DiGiorno Pizza.
They hijacked the hashtag why I stayed.
Which was about domestic violence.
Domestic violence.
The tweet is hashtag why I stayed.
You had pizza.
I've never seen this one that's bad
that is next level
terrible
you can't do that
like people are
scrolling this like
oh yeah this is
okay yeah
that's just
learning you know
a 20 year old intern
who doesn't
doesn't understand
like the gravity
of the hashtag
or anything
is like well
like it implies
the hot hand
it implies that
like someone like
stayed in a relationship
that was very abusive because pizza was involved like at the end of the day pizza is
bae right we know this but i think the giorno they should have sat this one out look if you're
staying in an unhealthy relationship because bae has pizza like you can get pizza elsewhere
honestly so yeah a lot of places and get yourself out of the situation.
That might be my favorite one in the worst way.
It's really good.
Yeah.
Have you guys seen the U.S. Airways tweet from a while back?
I don't remember.
You can look at that after the podcast.
They're up there in the Hall of Fame, bad tweets.
I'm not going to play the video, but Randy brought us the mattress company that had a twin mattress.
Randy, describe this for me.
It's a twin mattress sale.
And I honestly think this – I know this is real, but I can't wrap my head around it.
Yeah. Yeah, it was a mattress company that did a mattress sale on 9-11 to remember 9-11 where every mattress was the price of a twin bed.
So king twin price, queen twin price.
At the end of it, the lady accidentally knocks over two towers of mattresses.
Are you serious?
The video is right there.
And then she goes, oh, no.
And then looks at the camera and says, we'll always remember.
Oh, my gosh.
All right.
You should not simulate 9-11 in your mattress commercial.
That's just a rule.
That's like number one rule of business in the book that I'm penning.
Do not simulate the towers collapsing in your mattress commercial.
Maybe don't even do a sale around 9-11.
Right.
Especially one that makes a play on the twin towers as they were attacked and thousands died.
But you're going to sell some mattresses.
Somebody had a good tweet yesterday that was like, you should just employ somebody who's like the millennial Gen Z kind of border that just tells you if your tweets
or marketing schemes are trash or not,
or if you're going to be roasted.
Like a QC consultant, like a quality control person.
You need a quality control to say,
hey, Mark Davis, that's not it.
I remember back a few years ago,
there was a trend of wannabe social media influencers who would, on the anniversary of 9-11, they would say, like, I want this to get one retweet for every person who died on 9-11.
And I forgot the total number of people who died that day, but the 2,000-something.
It was in the thousands.
Yeah, it was in the thousands.
but the 2000s, then the thousands.
Yeah.
Then the thousands.
So he would be like,
let's get,
you know,
2,900 retweets to support like,
dude,
you're trying to gain personal clout and followers based on this very,
very tragic event.
Like go fuck yourself.
Like this is terrible.
You know,
sometimes,
sometimes one light can equal one prayer.
Right.
I don't know how that actually shakes out logistically but yeah i'm
not i'm not real sure either right i went to check out the uh one of the places we're looking at
staying we're gonna potentially do a trip to cabo in july and i was checking out one of the resorts
and i was like all right i'm gonna look at the hashtag so look at all the people who have posted
from there and it's a lot there's a lot of like um what's the term very attractive young ladies
um attractive people in general but one in particular that did a post and it's just her
a very revealing shot of her in her um in this in the i don't know lazy river or some kind of
infinity pool popped up showing a lot showing a lot of the back side um kind of throwing it in a
circle and it said thinking about the people in
haiti hashtag haiti uh right the earthquake the devastating earthquake or the perhaps the hurricane
i was just like is that what you're thinking about in this uh in this very revealing seductive photo
it's unbelievable yeah at the end of the day just run it by somebody in their 20s
that's probably a pretty good idea. You've got to have somebody.
Maybe one of Al Davis' nephews.
I don't know.
Not Al Davis. Mark Davis.
Son of Al.
A grand-nephew of Al, perhaps.
That'll get you back to Mark Davis'
nephew. We'll continue to update this story
as we check in to see. At this point,
you can't delete it, right?
If they deleted it, he said they're not deleting it so okay it's like a self slap on the wrist leaving it up right that's what his goal is he's like no we're not going to delete
it teaching we realize we've we fucked up we missed the mark but that's going to be that's
going to resurface um periodically pretty much any time the raiders do anything
yes yeah um somebody had a good reply it was just cringe baby which i thought was excellent
that's well done guys you want to introduce a new segment here you want to just work something in
you want to check in check in with a friend someone's called the cold call baby hell yeah
you cool with that?
This is where we're just going to call somebody who's in the network in some capacity and see if they pick up.
If not, we'll leave them a voicemail, and hopefully it's good.
Who are we calling?
I'm not going to tell you.
Okay.
Is that okay?
That's perfect.
All right, let's see if this works.
Don't fail me now, Bluetooth.
Here we go go uh-oh
flounder pounder guide service you hook them we stick them flounder wow what are you guys doing
you're live on the pod. Well, here we are.
What have you been doing the last two weeks?
Because it seems like you don't really work anymore,
and all you do is fish.
I retired.
Straight up, I said, forget it,
and I took the whole month off and retired in April.
No, what happened was I've had all these –
everything's been pushed back from COVID,
so I haven't really been able to go out or fish.
And then I had the baby, so a lot of things got canceled.
So anyway, my wife was gracious enough to give me some time,
and my people also to give me some time away from the office.
So I've been doing what I do, and that's been ripping lips, brother.
That was my next question.
Have you been ripping lips?
Yeah, the rips – the lips have been ripped, my brother. That was my next question. Have you been ripping lips? Yeah, the rips.
The lips have been ripped, my friend.
What have y'all been doing?
How y'all guys been?
I didn't check in.
Who all we got on the pod?
We got Dylan.
Hey, Flounder.
I miss you, buddy.
Hey, Big D.
What's up, brother?
Man, everything.
Everything is up.
Big Game Brett's here filling in for Will.
You know, Will just had his kid yesterday. Yeah, I didn't know where we were in the status of the podcast world
letting everybody know that but uh that's awesome man do we have a name yet or any of that info
william fritz to freeze the third oh well we're original we're calling them wd3 not sure if that's
i love it wd3 hey we need you to get on tiktok
yeah yeah we uh tell me a little bit okay here's the deal and i don't know much about tiktok
because my wife shows me all these things but the the only thing I see is, like, 14-year-old girls doing dances
that, like, I think they're the Macarena, but they're not.
They're not the Macarena.
No.
First of all, I think it's the Macarena, but either way.
Well, okay.
So tell me, what would I do on TikTok?
I don't know.
I just feel like if someone opened up TikTok
and they saw your face on camera,
they are not clicking out of it.
They're not swiping up or down or whatever it is you do on there.
They're going to see what this guy's got.
You could tap into a genre of TikTok that hasn't even been invented yet, man.
Okay.
Tarpon TikTok.
Tarpon fishing TikTok.
Rip-lipping with Flounder.
I guarantee there's not a guy ripping lips on TikTok.
And if there is, don't send it to me.
I don't care.
It's going to be Flounder soon.
Yeah. Okay. just think about it i'm in man i guess i guess i don't i mean what else i got going on in the social media world let's start a tiktok account i think that's
your best medium that's your best platform for success i i just i don't want to help cultivate
i think we could get the listeners behind it okay not to put any pressure on you but just we need you to go on there and be funny you don't
even have to be funny just be yourself you're naturally funny go for a walk in the woods
flounder people are gonna watch just go to a strip center italian restaurants and do bits
yo baby yeah that's what we were really going about i don't know if you heard but you were
left out of the bit madness tournament um and we thought that was a little bit of that was yeah that was i don't
know who was who was setting those up but somebody needed somebody to be reprimanded you need to write
somebody up let me say this let me say this i think it's on me for not pushing it hard enough
i think i don't think we gave it as much love as we should have so i will take that is classic
gold i apologize it was one of my favorite favorite nights in the group text of my life so I don't think we gave it as much love as we should have. So I will take that. That is classic gold. I apologize.
It was one of my favorite nights in the group text of my life.
Yeah.
Hey, if I'm going to be spitting that gold, you guys are going to help me out
because that thing only comes around once the pie is on, I guess, baby.
There it is.
There it is.
I got to ask, the question that everybody's just been chomping at the bit to ask,
what's next for Flounder in 2021 oh man lots of big things uh gonna wrap up tarpon season hope to get a few
more jumps get y'all a few more stuff on on camera to see that and uh to play a little golf and i'm
gonna raise this baby man we're doing a lot of big things over there
at the guest house. We're
rolling over.
So those are big, big
new things. What does that mean? An IRA?
No, the baby
is rolling over. Oh, okay.
Yeah.
Thanks for checking into my portfolio,
guys. You're increasing
your exposure to cryptocurrency, I hear.
Yeah, yeah.
That's exactly what I'm doing.
I'm going all in on that.
What's your favorite crypto right now?
Oh, man.
I'm staying as far away as I can on that.
You're not a Dogecoin guy?
Dogcoin?
Dogcoin, yeah.
That's the best one.
Dogcoin. Yeah, Doggycoin. I like Doggycoin. It's a Dogecoin guy? Was it Dogcoin? Dogcoin, yeah. That's the best one. Dogcoin.
Yeah, Doggycoin.
I like Doggycoin.
It's pronounced Doge.
Dogecoin.
Oh, okay.
It's French.
Well, Doge is my favorite style of coin.
Okay.
Well, very cool.
Well, Clay, we thank you so much for picking up.
It's almost like you were ready for us to call or something.
Oh, well.
That's how he answers every phone call.
I did.
If we're, yeah.
I thought this was going to pull back the curtain.
There was no hidden, you're all true to your listeners or whatever.
What do you mean?
No, you're right.
The truth.
Yeah, yeah, you're right, I guess.
What's going on?
What's going on over there at Wilmont?
Nobody knows, man.
I don't know who's in charge now with Will being out, fraternity leave.
According to the official Wilmont's Twitter account, it's closed for the time being because the baby is here.
So they'll open it up in a few days, I'm sure.
That's tough for them because they took a big hit during COVID, you know?
Right.
So, I mean, you kind of think that these next few weeks will matter.
But we'll see, man.
They got some angel investors in angel investors and i think
they're floating them things are picking up in the uh in the you know the travel world there so
he should be you should be doing okay i want to actually apply for a job
really at wilmonds yeah you could be the minister of culture. Okay. I could do that.
I wanted to be an excursion director.
Oh, okay.
Take people on banana boat rides, rent out jet skis, do some snorkel trips.
I think they would like that very much, Clay.
I'd be into it.
I'll set some things up.
Clay, I know you're very, very busy today.
I don't know how you even made time to do this for us, but I'm going to let you go.
But thank you so much for taking the time to join the Circling Back podcast here on Wednesday.
Boy, it's always a pleasure getting to hear y'all's voice.
And if you're looking for more Flounder content, check me out on TikTok,
whatever my handle is going to be.
Okay, that's helpful.
I guess Kay is going to set that up for me.
What's your Instagram?
It's at, if you guys are wondering, it's at Flounder on the fly.
That's D-A on the fly.
There are underscores in there, several of them. Yeah, there are.
Yep.
Add me on it.
All right, Flounder.
See you later.
Good talking to you, buddy.
Toodle-oo.
All right, kiddos.
Y'all have a great day.
Bye.
You too, man. That's Flounder, ladies and gentlemen. Always good to hear from Flounder. See you later. Good talking to you, buddy. Toodle-oo. All right, kiddos. Y'all have a great day. Bye. You too, man.
Bye.
That's Flounder, ladies and gentlemen.
Always good to hear from Flounder.
He sounds great.
Sounds like a guy who's just been ripping lips in the keys.
Tarpon season.
Tarpon, yeah.
Don't mess around.
He sent me some videos, man.
There's some – it looked like a lot of fun.
They roll.
That's their thing.
And you know they're rolling over where he's at.
Right.
Not his IRA. I did not know where he's at. Right. Not his IRA.
I did not know where he was going with that.
I was like, oh, congratulations.
Like, that's cool.
Like, y'all got a new dog or something.
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Hey.
WD3 has officially hit the TL.
Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
The Grom.
Will and Sally got back-to-back Groms off.
So exciting stuff.
Very cool. Exciting stuff. Very cool.
Exciting stuff.
Can we take a look mid-pod?
Oh, look at the hair.
Look at the hair.
Right?
The hair's interesting.
It's getting blond vibes from it.
Let's go.
Yeah.
Okay.
I'm the one on the list.
Very cool.
I just got the license.
We're good.
Let me be the first
I mean he looks like Will
Not gonna lie
Wow
I guess he kind of does
Doesn't he
I mean it's
Again it's very hard to tell
It's crazy how that works
It is
So we talked about this story
A little bit on the worst of yesterday
It was our worst of news story, but it was breaking.
It was fluid.
It happened overnight.
We were a little bit lost.
I stumbled through it.
People were like, no, no, I think you did it okay.
But more has happened, and Brett, you're going to break down
the Lakers Twitter Vivian Catfish or not Catfish story.
Go ahead, and if you get anything wrong, no one will let you know about it.
Right.
I'm going to do this.
We're trying to get some brevity involved here because it is a long saga.
So here we go.
Give us the TLDR.
No one does brevity like you, though, thankfully.
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Are you on payroll?
I hope so.
Okay.
For them.
Oh, no.
Anyway, Sunday night, this guy Josh Toussaint, Toussaint.
Toussaint.
Toussaint, Josh Toussaint, sends out a tweet saying, Hey, Lakers family, Vivian Flores, a.k.a. Butterfly424, is missing.
She's 5'5", may or may not be wearing a wig because she's going through leukemia treatment.
She's from Santa Monica.
DM me if you had a lead or may see her.
Very serious stuff, Dylan.
Proceeded to attach two photos.
Okay.
What starts off innocent enough, it even got some celebrities involved,
like Ice Cube's son, O'Shea Jackson Jr.
He was in the NWA movie, right?
He played Ice Cube, his father.
I don't know for sure.
Also, Lakers forward Markeith Morris.
Okay.
So, okay.
You know, and easy enough.
There was also a screenshot floating around that had the Lakers official Twitter handle being like,
okay, our head of security is going to reach out
because Vivian is part of the family.
Lakers Twitter.
Right.
The Lakers are a very classic franchise, big Twitter fan base.
Yep.
So it's a buzz at this point.
Then, at its Kingsborough, decides to join the conversation.
He says Vivian used to be a member of Oakland Raiders Twitter back in the day
when they were still the Oakland Raiders.
Before the tweet.
Correct.
It all comes back to the tweet.
This took place in a Twitter space, which is akin to a clubhouse room,
if you know what we're saying.
Twitter spaces.
Is that a thing that Twitter has?
Twitter has clubhouse rooms, yeah, called Spaces.
Okay.
I was unaware.
There was a Twitter space going on that Kevin Durant was also in.
The Durantula.
He's very-
Former Longhorn Great.
The Slim Reaper.
That's a great nickname.
It is.
This guy, It's Kingsborough, was like, hang on a minute.
This Vivian Flores was a big part
of old raiders twitter he's raising a red flag here then tucson comes out and says hey no she's
real i first interacted with her via instagram dm in february 2020 um but here's the catch she's
like wait a second i've never seen or met Flores in person because when they worked together doing the podcast,
she wouldn't communicate via FaceTime or video because of her self-esteem.
Okay.
The story's starting to fall apart here, Dave.
Interesting.
What is going on?
Kevin Durant then chimes in and says,
So what you're saying is it's Kingsborough linked up with a bot, and big Kingsborough got catfished for how long by another guy.
So Kevin Durant's putting fuel.
He's legitimizing this storyline.
He's putting fuel on the catfish fighter.
Again, the most online athlete of all time.
Shortly thereafter, after this Twitter space happens,
Josh Toussaint tweets, Vivian has been found alive and safe.
Thank you, everyone.
Thank God.
We were wondering.
So the emergency situation is now over.
Okay.
Nobody cares at this point because it's all about the catfish situation.
They're like, who is this person?
You're being catfished.
Then the Photoshop's come.
People are digging into these.
These are very, very blatant, blatant Photoshop's.
Perhaps the most hilarious part of the story for me, because they're bad to me.
I wouldn't have noticed them right off the bat.
But when I look at them, it doesn't take long for me to be like, oh, that's a terrible Photoshop.
Yeah.
Most specifically, the one where she's playing basketball overseas.
And her last name is just her first name, Vivian, on the back of her jersey.
Yeah, like it's third grade basketball
when you had your first name on the back of your jersey.
Exactly.
Also, very quickly,
people are reverse Google image searching
these Photoshop...
Internet sleuths.
Coming up very quickly with other folks.
And then at Caleb vs. Everyone comes in the mix and he says do you
always realize the uh the reface technology that's happening look up sharon alexi turns out that
sharon alexi has a very similar face in all of these photoshops to uh vivian flores aka butterfly Butterfly, 424. At this point, the gig is up.
The jig is up.
Toussaint says, still haven't gotten a goddamn explanation.
Thought I trusted someone and learned my lesson.
Tried to help a friend I thought was in peril.
I was duped like y'all and feel bad I was a pawn.
Such garbage.
Logging off for a while.
Stay safe.
Oh, poor guy.
Then he realized that didn't go far enough and he follows up with a
another twitter thread about how he didn't address it earlier he's comes off as a fool he's negligent
nobody died i got duped and i apologize again thank you to everyone who reached out for compassion
i have mental health issues so oh my god okay he dropped the mental health little force field there
yeah yeah but very serious don't joke but
a lot going on here did he did he drop a please subscribe wow this really blew up please check
out my pod leave a review no nothing okay good good on him self-promotion department uh but then
a little wrinkle here for dylan vivian tweeted
very cool you have his attention.
She said, and I quote,
Y'all be on here, hearing the side of the story
from one guy, and then automatically assume
he is right about everything.
I have people on here that can verify who I am.
I don't need to prove anything to anyone.
As for me going missing, yes, it happened.
I passed out from my cancer
treatments. Then she followed
up with, now let's talk about some people assuming that Josh,
Josh Jusaint runs this account.
Are y'all that stupid to think a guy
going to talk like a girl on a podcast?
LMAO, come on now.
Laugh my ass off, off, off, off, off, off.
She then posted a video
saying,
For those that still believe in me, thank you.
And it's a quick video of herself presumably saying, I'm real.
Here's the catch.
She posts a piece of paper that's like, I'm real.
She spelled her name wrong, Dylan.
Oh, man.
She spelled her name wrong.
You just don't do that.
Dude, this is insanity.
And then.
If you're still with us, my head is exploding as well.
I promise brevity here.
And then she deleted that video.
Oh, you can't do that.
Even the Raiders didn't delete their tweet.
Right.
It all comes back to them.
She deleted the video saying how real she is.
And then it just gets pile on situation.
People like sound engineers with a little time on their hands come in.
I love that.
Yeah.
I love the web sleuth that is the specialized person that can really just drop in.
And it's way, no one could ever do it.
But these people are like, I got a little time.
I'll just go ahead and apply my craft to this pointless internet story.
Exactly.
Yeah.
They're like pitching the voice up and down, being like, wow, this really sounds
like a guy from Australia, it turns out, when you pitch the voice back down.
So I like the idea that this is a guy in Australia.
Or New Zealand.
That's what they said.
Then the cherry on top.
So it's pretty known at this point that something's going on.
Chumzilla chimes in.
Somebody asks Chumzilla, hey, do you recognize her by chance?
The account also went by Butterfly424.
Chumzilla says, it's a big catfish account.
I went along with 11 years ago to see how far it would go to expose them.
They originally impersonated model Roberta Little under the name Joanne Peters.
Dude, what is the end goal for such a catfish situation?
Such a catfish sounds like she or he goes around to different Twitter communities
and exploits people, catfish people.
I don't know.
Personal gratification.
Yeah.
Gets blackmail on them.
There's probably some blackmail going on somewhere and asking for money and all that.
It's some seedy
messed up bullshit do we think that um she catfished or fooled her her podcast co-host
because the idea of like you're doing a podcast with somebody and you've never met them and you've
never actually communicated with them like via digital device where you can see their face is
hilarious yeah absolutely they're just doing a podcast via phone. Like, what if Dylan was catfishing us this whole time?
I don't know.
Maybe I am, bitch.
Okay.
You'd probably just go to the tape.
Yeah, I know.
I'm just saying, what if?
Sure.
Or like if J.R. Hickey didn't really exist.
Like, J.R.'s a bot.
I've actually met J.R., so he's not catfishing us.
But I'm just saying.
Deep fake. Deep fake J.R. That's a nice touch.'ve actually met JR, so he's not catfishing us. But I'm just saying. Deep fake?
Deep fake JR.
That's a nice touch.
This brings up a lot of things.
Like, the deep fake technology, the what if this is just, like, a bot that, like, became conscious and aware
and just decided to go about catfishing NBA players or whatever.
I know, man.
The deep fake technology stuff is awful for everybody, and it needs to go away.
I've always said that deep fakes have no place in Major League Baseball.
They don't have any place anywhere, in my opinion.
Agreed.
You know what's really scary for deepfake technology is that Randy tapes all of these episodes where we speak in a microphone for hours upon hours of video.
So we are ripe for a deepfake.
I don't trust that fucker.
Don't give the people ideas, man.
I don't think it's that. No, I shouldn't say it's that. It could be that thing. I don't trust that fucker. Don't give the people ideas, man.
I don't think it's that.
No, I shouldn't say it's that.
It could be that easy.
I don't know.
Brett, I think you did a great job breaking down what is one of the more convoluted, insane stories of all time. Did I get there in enough time?
You did.
You nailed it.
You really nailed it.
Honestly, no, you did.
Okay, thanks.
Because I was worried.
Very cool, Brett.
When I was trying to read up on it before the pod, I'm on nootropics and my head was still spinning.
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Now the segment I've been waiting for.
Fun with Brett.
I can't wait for this one.
This is going to be fun fun with Brett.
I'm very excited for this.
So I don't know a whole lot about what went on with you and your old company, like all the different.
That's probably a good thing.
You were a part of content a little bit.
I was.
What's up, Dave?
Oh, we're just playing it.
Youngstown for Rough and Rowdy at like 7 or 8 a.m.
There's something going on.
Let's set it up.
It's TikTok, so it just plays.
Okay.
It's not very user-friendly.
So there's a video that came to my attention yesterday because hashtag Chad, our good friend over at Dude Perfect, sent it to us.
And I had not seen this yet.
So you guys are going to Youngstown, Ohio for what now?
We were doing a rough and rowdy.
Rough and rowdy.
In Youngstown.
Yep.
And I guess the city of grit.
Someone painted a mural for you guys?
Yeah, that's what happened.
Someone painted a mural.
And so I'll explain after.
Yeah, obviously you know a lot more about this than I do.
I'm just trying to.
I'm going to refresh this and let's just let it play.
Oh, 35,000 views, huh?
...going to Youngstown for Ralph and Rowdy at like 7 or 8 a.m.
There's something going on in Youngstown before the weigh-in.
The mayor's going to be there.
The fucking news is going to be there.
Wow.
You want me to fly it? I hate it. The mayor's going to be there. The fucking news is going to be there. Wow. That's sick.
That was big time.
Now that I'm hearing all the college kids go, oh, nice.
This is it.
Let's do it.
Everyone, hold on. Everyone, please.
You worked for us.
Were you?
I'm his friend.
Okay.
So we got a mural.
I was told it was a big ceremony.
The mayor was going to be here.
Did you do this legally?
Who owns this building?
His dad.
His dad.
We got a fan.
There's a fan in the back, Frank.
Hey, how are you, sir?
If you want to step forward, you can watch.
You here for the ceremony?
No, I'm here to deliver stuff.
He's here to deliver stuff.
I've never seen this.
I didn't know about this.
I'm kind of disappointed that you're saying that was Big Cat saying that's sick
because I kind of pictured it as being you walking up trying to, like, so no one showed up to this mural thing.
It was still very much Brett saying the news is going to be there.
The fucking news is going to be here.
The mayor is going to be there.
The mayor.
So here's the railroad of the whole, pulling back the curtain here.
Okay.
We had a friend who you could hear in the video, Youngstown Bob.
He's holding one side of the ribbon.
Youngstown Bob came to me a couple couple weeks before rough and rowdy and
said hey uh there's going to be this mural thing for when you guys get here and youngstown bob is
from youngstown hence the name makes sense um and and he basically set me up with with uh what was
going to happen here which was the news and the mayor and And so I was like, okay, cool. And turned that into like a, hey, we should let Dave know.
It's going to be a thing.
We'll have to go over there before the rough and rowdy,
the weigh-in event snowballed into what you see here.
So I was the-
What we saw was no one was there.
The unfortunate middleman here.
Yeah, turns out whatever Youngstown Bob connections he had on the back end
didn't pan out, as it was explained to me.
So you thought he had an in with the mayor?
Like, we're going to get the mayor of Youngstown, Dylan.
What year is this?
This is...
I'm trying to know which part of the Barstool popularity this fell into.
Because you look 22 in this.
Yeah, it's either 2017 or 18
i think i that's it's one of those two years it's not 2019 and it's not 2016 so it's got to be the
other two um is this so you're a frequent target of your old boss sure um is this one of the things
he'll reference uh did he post i think less so no i i don't think he's running his own tiktok account
posting old clips okay i think there's some underlings there that pump content into that
account because he has a gigantic following are you saying this is not on you the worst to ever
do it the worst to ever do it uh this one it depends on how you look at it i'm the middleman
who who gassed it up to portnoy, so I will take the blame for that.
The fact that the mayor was going to be there, Brett.
The fact that the mayor and the news were not there.
They just weren't there.
If you had no one, the mayor or the news, which one would you have wanted?
Oh.
More impressions from the news.
Yeah, give me the news.
Give me the news.
With the mayor more prestige.
News truck.
Yeah, I'm picturing like the-
I was hoping the mayor would
show up with like a monocle and like the monopoly guy the monopoly guy and like have like the giant
scissors and maybe present you guys with a key to the city just dave cutting a ribbon for for
nobody is really funny it did turn into one of the funniest moments that once you run it back
it's one of the funnier moments i've ever watched. The ribbon is being held by two guys, right? It wasn't, like, attached to, like...
Right, it's Youngstown Bob and Bob's friend.
Has there ever been a ribbon-cutting ceremony for a mural?
No.
I feel like that's...
A Barstool Sports mural?
Well, definitely not that...
So I didn't realize that that was what the mural was.
So they did this mural.
Who did it?
Who did the painting?
No idea.
One of Youngstown Bob's connections.
A street artist.
Yes.
Do you think it was...
It wasn't Banksy,
as far as I know.
Okay.
Otherwise,
it would be worth
millions upon millions of dollars.
You think it was Cranksy?
Could have been Cranksy.
Think about it.
Or Danksy.
Oh, dude.
Yesterday, I was tired.
I did the CBD.
Yeah.
One of those moments, man, that'll live forever on the internet.
Brett, while usually they don't paint you in the best light,
I really enjoy when Barstool content featuring you resurfaces,
and I get to a little peek back into your life at Barstool.
It's always fun for me.
I don't know any of this stuff.
That's why it's like when I get sent this, you probably are like, oh, cool, get to rehash this again.
But to me and to Dylan, I think for the most part, I was unfamiliar with this side of Brett.
Yeah.
What's the guy's name for the bar?
What's his name again?
Ah, yes, John Taffer.
John Taffer.
I don't think I want to watch that one.
It's a little unnecessary.
I don't want to see Brett get ringed about's yeah it's a little unnecessary i don't want to i don't want
to see brett get reamed about that guy's a dickhead that's another but that's another like
here we pull back the curtain again one we walked out of radio and john taffer goes hey i'm just
doing radio kid and just walks away so that's puts that to bed too it's all over emails that
i wasn't responding to be from these contestants like, what do we have to bring? Because the whole point was to put them in an environment
that they were totally sink or swim in.
So the point was not to prepare them for the competition.
Yeah, yeah.
So there's that.
So after he did that, that's when he said,
I'm just doing radio?
Just doing radio, too.
Well, that's nice of him, I guess.
He called you kid.
You were a kid, right?
Yeah, oh yeah. I mean mean probably 24 that time but yeah it's a reality show the whole thing is reality show that wildly successful right at the end
of the day the fucking news is gonna be there the news is gonna the news is who
really did you wrong did you ever like follow up with the local news like hey I
never could he could he used you on this one. I never contacted the news
to begin with. That's the thing.
I was the messenger.
When did you know this was going to
go badly? The morning of when Youngstown
Bob goes, hey, the news isn't coming.
Okay.
Did you keep that to yourself or did you
let your boss know?
I gave Dave the...
At first, I tried to fix it. I was like, Bob, go fucking know? No, I gave Dave the—well, at first I tried to fix it.
I was like, Bob, go fucking scrounge up some people.
Call the news phone.
Call the news.
Hello.
Hello, reporter.
Yeah, no, as that afternoon progressed, I was like, this is going to go poorly.
And y'all flew in at 8.
Y'all took an earlier flight specifically to make said mural ribbon cut.
That I can't remember.
That's how it's spun in the TikTok. Gr granted is tiktok it's a it's a
different medium yeah there's not a whole lot of flights uh i can't remember how we were doing it
was like you fly into pittsburgh you drive to youngstown type of thing this is before portland
was like jet setting everywhere pjs yeah this was this-PJ. So as you're walking up,
were you just kind of like lagging behind or did you,
were you like, oh no?
No, there's a point where you realize that,
okay, this is going to go so poorly
that it's going to be content.
And so you're just kind of like,
all right, here we go.
I had done this dozens of times
where it's like,
this is going to turn into,
like if a flight was delayed, for example,
it was going to turn into content.
And it's like, it's my fault that there's a weather, like, if a flight was delayed, for example, it was going to turn into content.
And, like, it's my fault that there's a weathered pattern disrupting a flight.
So it's like, you know that it's going to turn into that. This is how I feared our first meetup, listener meetup, was going to go in Chicago.
We did a listener meetup on our previous podcast.
And granted, we didn't have the mayor or the fucking news that were going to be there.
You were worried that no one was going to show up.
I was worried it was going to be just a total bust.
And, like, we would have have just it would have been fun because
we had like the four of us and we just gotten hammered in chicago which is great but i did not
know what to expect and i'm like we walked into like whatever the first bar we went to was really
really crowded and really really overwhelming and i was like oh there's five people cool and there's
10 next thing you know we got like 20 yeah i went to the next bar and it was like 50 people. I was like,
wow.
You met Randy that day.
Yeah,
we met Wacky Trumbacky.
I think he was wearing
a cool trendy leather jacket
or some shit.
Probably.
He got from Kohl's
with his $5 Kohl cash.
But yeah,
that is a fear
I've had since high school
is that we are going
to throw a party
or something
and people just aren't
going to show up.
I can't deal with it.
That awkwardness is like my kryptonite.
It would be tough.
I think we're at a point, though, where we can pretty much go anywhere.
Well, you know, Dylan, in high school,
I crashed my own house party because nobody came.
Right over his head.
He has no idea.
Wait, what?
I had to do that.
I'm not the one.
I thought you did.
Is this a pop punk lyric that I'm unaware of?
It appears so.
Yeah, you nailed it.
You nailed it.
Okay.
Yeah, good times.
Brad, that was fun with you.
Fun with me, good times.
You know, there's always a shred of maybe a mistake or something I could have done better that leads to these snowballs.
But, yeah.
It's not even, like, that's not it.
The funny part to me is just you trying to sell it.
Big time. And it's just. Big time. like, that's not it. The funny part to me is just you trying to sell it. Big time.
And it's just.
Big time.
Dave, we got the news.
Like we're going to do a whole thing.
Fucking news.
The fucking news is going to be there.
I wish that was you who said, that's sick.
That wasn't me.
That was.
Like trying to like over like, no, dude, this is actually awesome.
It's sick.
It's sick.
Whoever painted it.
It looked like it's pretty well done.
I wish somebody would do a mural for us.
Yeah. Although we don't do graffiti unless it's in a licensed place.
But if you do do a mural for us, please alert the news.
Yeah, and don't.
And the mayor.
And the mayor.
Right.
Please.
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Thank you, Dylan.
I was more concerned about Barry Rigby's music here.
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He's been a big Brett pod.
Lead us off.
Sure, why not?
H-Town weekend for me.
Okay.
Gonna hit H-Town.
Probably get El Tiempo in.
Haven't had that in a few weeks,
so obviously that's too long.
But pretty simple weekend
on my part.
Just gonna head over there, do some stuff, and head home. Hmm. head over there, do some stuff, and head home.
Head over there, do some stuff, and head home.
That's the gist.
Very generic.
Doesn't get us a lot.
The curtain has not been pulled back.
There's a couple restaurants that I can't remember the name of
that Caroline wants to try.
So I didn't want to get into not being able to remember it,
but that's what's happening.
Okay.
Dylan, go ahead.
Yeah. Look, go ahead. Yeah.
Look, I'm really excited.
Friday, I have a little dinner that I'm going to with my new friends.
You have new friends?
Since y'all don't invite me to anything, I have new friends.
I'm happy for you, honestly.
That's cool.
And happy for me. I just want friends that want to hang out with me.
And thankfully, Bay and all of Bay's friends, we're going out to a dinner.
It's three couples, including us. You made that clear. Three couples, Bay and all of Bay's friends, we're going out to a dinner. It's three couples including us.
Three couples including us, like I said.
I'm excited.
Her friends are very nice. They're very fun.
And we're going to throw some
adult beverages back, I believe, and have a good
time at dinner.
Where are you going?
Red Ash.
Is that the one that Dave is polarized on?
I don't know.
I've never been.
Or is it a very polarizing spot in general?
Is that what it is?
No, I've been once.
It's a little pricey, but it's really good.
Critically acclaimed.
It's a good spot.
Got it.
Okay.
Saturday, I have nothing at all.
Wide open Saturday.
I don't know what I'm going to do.
Sunday, I get the homie back.
So you're free Saturday, huh?
Mm-hmm.
Cool, man.
So, yeah, if you want to do something, my phone will be working.
Ah, we'll see.
I just got a lot of kids.
I took it in.
I got it just to double check.
The baby and I don't know.
Will will be home.
Maybe we'll bring Will some food.
Very cool.
Maybe I'll bring Will the gift of gumbo.
That'd be very nice.
Anyway, that's my weekend.
Supposed to play golf with Micah on Friday.
Looks like we've got a chance of storms in the afternoon.
Some possibly severe risk.
They always... Big weather.
That's a big weather thing.
I think we're in the slight
category, which
can still happen. Big hail
still happens. That's still scary.
But yeah, that's pretty much
all I've got for the weekend
got roads he's been having a great couple weeks just gonna hang out with him he's he's trying to
he's trying to talk he's no way he's trying to talk everybody likes to to say they're their kids
doing like dope shit before they're supposed to got it but he's it i'm at the point where when
i'm like dealing with him and he like starts you know making noises I'm I'm interpreting it as him trying to say hello to me or something and I think he's not I don't
think he's there yet it would be very very advanced for him at like uh eight weeks right
12 12 you're very close 12 weeks tomorrow actually or uh Saturday but yeah that's cool we'll be
chilling we'll be doing yeah I'm hoping to go I want to go play at least nine on Friday. I'm going to go to the course.
All right.
Friday?
Well, you know Friday's going to be nasty outside.
Yeah, I just went through this.
We just talked about tornadoes and hail, all sorts of stuff.
You said you wanted to get in nine.
I'm going to try.
Good luck, buddy.
I bet I will get in some golf Friday in some capacity.
What are you guys doing Thursday?
No plans.
Got the homie just chilling.
No credit.
I'd love to get a beer.
I can do a beer.
I can do an easy tiger.
A beer.
I will do a beer.
We'll see.
Exactly a beer.
There's a news place in North Austin we've got to try, by the way.
Okay.
Just saying.
Brett, you want to break some news?
Sure thing.
Real quick, since we're running a little long here, I will break some news on Brett's Breaking News.
Dylan, would you like to go? Helicopters,
the Eagles draft strategy, or
Apple? Let's go
choppers. Have you
heard of Mars,
Dylan? The planet? Yeah, the planet.
I'm aware of Mars, yeah.
Well, we flew a helicopter on Mars the other
day. Oh, I thought you meant we're going to take a helicopter from
Earth to Mars. I don't think it's going to work.
There's no air in the. The way that works.
So we put a drone on the Martian surface.
I saw this.
And flew it.
I saw this.
How cool is that?
A helicopter drone?
It was just a drone.
Ah.
But it had blades.
NASA tweeted.
People were tweeting.
They were chopping.
Yeah.
They were tweeting.
22s?
Yeah.
It was a chopper, though.
We flew another vehicle on another planet, Dave.
Allegedly.
That's pretty wild, man.
That's crazy.
Did Elon do it?
Eh, it's hard to say.
Dave, you're aware of these air tags that Apple just announced?
This is aggressive, yeah.
I'm not a big fan of this.
As somebody who just, I embrace privacy.
I feel like this is going to be a problem if we're talking about the same thing.
Isn't it just the device locator thing? Yeah, you're going to be a problem if we're talking about the same thing. Isn't it just the device locator
thing? Yeah, you're going to be able to
find my iPhone.
Now you're able to buy
a very small tag
to put on anything. I love it.
Like your golf balls. Your boy, Cons, had
a funny tweet about this.
I missed it. The wife, she could drop one
in your golf bag and you'd say,
oh, we're still playing. No, you're at the bar right now with the squad.
Yeah.
You're not really playing golf anymore.
So you should have been home like 45 minutes ago.
What are you doing?
Yeah.
Patio games are over.
It's over.
Helicopter moms are going to love this.
You know, tracking their kids' whereabouts.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
I guess they already can with cell phones, but you know what I'm saying.
Yeah.
Bike theft perhaps goes down.
That would be great.
It's a tracking device.
It's a tracking device.
I'm pretty liberal with my privacy.
If people use it for its intended use, it's great.
But people will not.
Correct.
People will take advantage of its abilities.
I think I draw the line here.
I don't want my stuff tracked.
Yeah.
Put it in a car
colton underwood you saw what happened not good not good uh the eagles new head coach has he
answered for that like i know he's been doing the rounds because he he came out as uh gay right has
he like answered the the stalking questions i have not seen this i don't know okay i don't think so
i probably shouldn't have brought it up during Brett's breaking news.
That's okay.
You want to get out of here?
No, I just got the Eagles.
Okay, give it to us.
So here we go.
New coach, Nick Sirianni.
Dave, are you familiar?
Oh, yeah.
He had a draft strategy with some prospects here.
Here's what he did.
Dylan, he said he played rock, paper, scissors with draft prospects on Zoom
to gauge their competitiveness.
That's really, this sucks.
This is not a good hire.
You want to know what else he did?
He won six games this year.
He played Jeopardy with prospects.
Okay.
And trash talked them to gauge their emotional.
This makes me cringe.
Emotional toughness?
Emotional toughness.
Get out of here with that man i would
just i would simply look at the film i would check game tape right combine scores and that would
probably be it not not the rock paper scissors thing they probably did a little bit of that too
honestly you know what do you mean watch film oh yeah probably but yeah okay that's guys that's
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