Citation Needed - Common Misconceptions, Part 2

Episode Date: September 7, 2022

A common misconception is a viewpoint or factoid that is often accepted as true but which is actually false. They generally arise from conventional wisdom (such as old wives' tales), stereotypes..., superstitions, fallacies, a misunderstanding of science, or the popularization of pseudoscience. Some common misconceptions are also considered to be urban legends, and they are often involved in moral panics. Our theme song was written and performed by Anna Bosnick. If you’d like to support the show on a per episode basis, you can find our Patreon page here.  Be sure to check our website for more details.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 He hasn't called or texted you? Nope, nope. Now that's weird, because he's not usually late for recordings. Yeah. Hey guys! Eli, where are you? Why is your voice everywhere again? Because you are back in the misconception verse, silly.
Starting point is 00:00:18 I think we're just visiting it. I might as well plug y'all back in. Had the simulation backed up on my computer and everything. Sorry. A misconception verse. Remember, he made a simulation where all the misconceptions were true to celebrate like the episode, do you remember this? Right, right, but he's like the last person
Starting point is 00:00:37 who should have a universe simulator. And yet I do, he thought, and yet I do. So what do you guys want to do? You want to watch the Queen turn it to a lizard person, balance an egg on its tip just one day a year? Yeah, you know, I honestly, the misconception versus just really dangerous. So I'm just going to chill and watch TV.
Starting point is 00:00:58 Yeah, that sounds good. Yeah, that sounds good. Yeah, man, maybe some music videos too? Hold an H. Tunes. And now, back to the latest hit from Avrilovine, whose real name we now know is Jean-Bene Ramsey. See, this is why you don't let him program the universe. What? You guys know this is true.
Starting point is 00:01:16 It's not true. Definitely not. It's not true. Nope. You're the worst. I kill you. Hello and welcome. The citation needed. The podcast where we choose a subject, read a single article about it on Wikipedia, and pretend we're experts. Because this is the internet, and that's how it works now.
Starting point is 00:01:53 I'm Eli Bosnick, and I'm assuming that someone out there is listening, but I'm going to need a few other folks to reinforce that delusion. First up, two men safe in the knowledge that money can't buy happiness, Cecil, and Tom. Yeah. And as long as you're not a patron, I'm still in the knowledge that money can't buy happiness, Cecil and Tom. Yeah. And as long as you're not a patron, I'm still in the placebo group, guys. Help me out here. It is true that money cannot buy happiness, but it can absolutely lie to you with a smile.
Starting point is 00:02:18 Yes, and that's a good enough for me. That's the same, Tom. It's the agree. And also joining us tonight, a guy who's seen the Great Wall of China from space. If you know what I mean, he's then right. No idea what you mean, but I'm here thanks for the intro.
Starting point is 00:02:34 Cool, I'm here too. Before I begin tonight, I'd like to take a moment to thank our patrons. Patrons, so many people are under the misconception that we're not a hair spread away from abject poverty. But your contributions can change all that. If you'd like to learn how to join their ranks, be sure to stick around till the end of the show. And with that out of the way, tell us, Tom, what person-place thing concept phenomenon or event will we be talking about today?
Starting point is 00:02:59 Today we will be discussing common misconceptions, but do okay, great. So let's start with Eli thinking it's hair's breath just now. Like the very small distance of hair breathing once. Exactly. What the fuck do you think that if a hair could breathe? Okay, no, no. No, no, no. Oh my God.
Starting point is 00:03:20 Something can idiot right now. And see some, there's a D in there, dude. You found some misconceptions we miss. Oh, lead us into knowledge. Technically, if you lead a horse to water, they may or may not drink.
Starting point is 00:03:35 It's not based on your persuasive capabilities, actually based on the horse's thirst level. I just wanted to get that out of the way early. All right. So thirsty the horses. So tell us. He has nothing to do with what you asked, but I wanted to say, why is no one here for this episode? This seems like a question. It's just a fight Eli Noah.
Starting point is 00:03:52 So tell us, he's a hairs breath. Why did you want to revisit this topic? It's a breath. I wanted to revisit this topic because the list is really amazing. I think there may be a part three of this in the future, possibly. The list is really interesting because it shows not only what people believe,
Starting point is 00:04:13 and in some cases odd things you may have never heard before, but it also has on a couple of occasions, just shown me that I was holding some of these misconceptions for myself. So let's start with some business myths. I evidently, there are people in the world that think Adidas is an acronym for all day, I dream about sex or all day dream about soccer
Starting point is 00:04:35 or the final word I guess can be sports too. It turns out that this is not true. The person who the company is named after is its founder Adolf or Adi Dassler. Adi Dass Adidas. The company was named in 1949 and the jokes are about the company's name. They were published in the late 70s. Okay, I actually thought that Adidas all day I dream about sex thing was from a corn
Starting point is 00:05:01 song, which is a band I am now ashamed to be associated with even in this sense. I actually heard it was Apple's dipped in diarrhea. Are scrumptious. That's what it was in my lifetime as a kid. Way better, way better. Why, why did you also, I don't know, man, we're kids and that's funny because it's about poo.
Starting point is 00:05:25 Come on. Okay. But like all day I dream about soccer. I get all day I dream about sports I get, but y'all eighth grade class was working on someone just really likes Apple's dip diaria. This is real. Take it serious. The common depiction of Santa Claus with a big white beard and red clothes with white fur trim was already very popular in American culture in the late 1800s.
Starting point is 00:05:51 Coca-Cola just used that popular depiction of Santa to sell their soda. They didn't create that version of father Christmas. Okay, yeah. Coca-Cola did not invent Santa. That's stupid, but I liked to go imagine like a hierarchy of soda brands and holidays, so like Coke and Vensana and then like Pepsi claims the Easter Bunny and Diet right gets, I don't know, I guess the tooth fairy, but according to the steel dossier, Melo Yellow is all over Trump.
Starting point is 00:06:23 Okay, what's the orange and white Santa called? Steal dossier mellow yellow is all over Trump. Okay, what's the orange and white Santa called? The Vanta Claus. So to Santa, they do other ones, but orange is the main. I'm not gonna lie for a second. I thought he was just making demands. I know I make making a joke. I'm a Dr. Pepper for my amusement.
Starting point is 00:06:48 For more soda juice please. Also, the popular myth that the Chevy Nova had to be renamed in Latin America as sales tanked because the name means it doesn't go in Spanish is not true. The Nova sold very well in those countries and the Spanish speakers understood the name to mean new, not stationary. Just some marketing guy been like, hold on, does Mexico know about spaces in written language? I feel like they don't. We're going to rename it. Look, that actually tracks it.
Starting point is 00:07:29 Like I did see that first thing. The tall tale that Reed Hastings, the founder of Netflix, started the company because he was disgruntled over a $40 late fee from Blockbuster, was made up by its founder. They had modeled their business after Amazon. There's also a rumor that Pepsi owned the world's sixth most powerful navy when they traded $3 billion worth of Pepsi products to the USSR for 20 decommission navy vessels. The deal was on the books, but it never took place. The company had planned to sell these ships for scrap. And if they kept the ships, they
Starting point is 00:08:10 would have been quote, small, old, obsolete, unworthy sea vessels. And quote, yeah, we heard you see so the Russian Navy. Okay, but still hepsi was at least considering buying Russian warships. And you have to admit that is a pretty drastic escalation of the soda wars. Taste this, motherfuckers. World War VII. Up. All right. Now do what about Fenta?
Starting point is 00:08:44 Okay, moving on to some food related myths. Sering meat is done to create the myard reaction, which is when the meat browns and this enhances flavor. Some people mistakenly think that searing meat seals in the moisture, but the act of searing meat actually makes it lose moisture. It doesn't like seal it in. Ben Shapiro here is this. He's like, see guys, the hotter the meat, the drier things get. My wife loves me.
Starting point is 00:09:19 Also, what problem was that solving with the searing in those people? I feel like the bloods evaporating between the three seconds from grill to plate. I'm going to cock it or do a sear. One of the other pocket feels crazy doing a sear. This is a terrible water balloon. There's got to be a better way. When eating hot peppers, people tend to think that the seeds are what contain the capsaicin, the component in the pepper that gives it its hot flavor. This is not the case.
Starting point is 00:09:54 The highest concentration of capsaicin is actually in the pith of the pepper that holds the seeds, not the seeds themselves. Okay, that's a new one for me actually. People think of the seeds, not the seeds. It's the pith around the seeds, not the seeds themselves. Okay, that's a new one for me actually. Yeah, people think it's the seeds. It's not the seeds, it's the pith around the seeds. Is there a way to do like a magic trick with that or like some sort of dare when, nope, go ahead, you can poison people. No, by chemical.
Starting point is 00:10:18 Use by dates on food are not necessarily the day that the food needs to be consumed by. Some foods will expire on or shortly after that date, but foods that are properly stored can be eaten past the expiration date. These dates are regulated by the government and they indicate the last day, the manufacturer warrants the quality. Okay, I don't want to argue with Wikipedia, but it feels like a poor person wrote that just because their kid asked why the first chicken pop
Starting point is 00:10:49 pie. I like that there's like a one day stroke of midnight cut off where the manufacturer's like all right, and three, two, one, fuck it. It can taste like botulism and cigarettes were off the whole voice. But be honest, you're afraid at midnight of the milk that flipped over that day. Yeah, don't eat that. That's not for you anymore. If you have to eat the milk, it's definitely not for you. You have a refrigerator. It's a miracle. You have a refrigerator, miracle. Nations would have fallen for it and they're like, oh man, the tiny bottom of this yogurt is poison now. Not worth it.
Starting point is 00:11:32 That being said, I think some people think that twinkies are some kind of super wonder food that they can keep their freshness and like, when I say freshness, I'm definitely using air quotes for many years, making them the only food that will be available to eat after the inevitable fall of humankind. Like a nuclear blast. That's right. Right.
Starting point is 00:11:57 Right. Right. Here's the thing. I don't want to live. That's thankfully not true though, Tom. Somehow these grotesque, dry, disgusting cakes can get even worse than their shelf life is, which is about a month and a half. It turns out.
Starting point is 00:12:12 Yeah, fun fact, where most products have the expiration date, Linky's just say, oh, now you're worried about what you put to your body. Just eat your cream filled, dick cake, you piece of shit. Never mind when we made it. Just eat it. It says exactly that is weird. It's really aggressive. Creamfield dick cakey piece of shit. Never mind when we made it. Just eat it. It says exactly that is true. It's really aggressive.
Starting point is 00:12:31 It's in the weird clock print and everything. Turkey meat is not unusually high in the amino acid trip to fan. The amino acid is often blamed for our sleepiness at the American Thanksgiving dinner, in which Turkey is often the main course. Turns out, we just stuff ourselves as much as the Turkey because we get sleepy when we overeat and then we blame the bird. Cooked spinach that has had like several changes of water is actually a better source of iron and calcium than raw spinach. Raw spinach has a chemical in it that inhibits the absorption of these vitamins that can be cooked and rinsed away. It seems that some people think that banana flavored candy is mimicking a variety of banana
Starting point is 00:13:17 that is no longer produced, and that's not the case either. I'm so excited about this. I've had an argument about this recently. Even though we've gone through several varieties before landing on the Cavendish banana, which is the banana we have now, the flavor is distinctly banana-esque because it's just like a single flavoring chemical found in bananas. I so, what is that? I so mole acetate. I don't know. Maybe I'm saying it. I so amel acetate. Huh. I saw what is that? I saw mole acetate. I don't know. Maybe I'm saying it.
Starting point is 00:13:46 I saw a molacitate. Okay, but from the from the current banana, right? It's from every, like most of the bananas. Yes. Interesting. So not so much banana flavored as they are flavored. Like, yeah. No, I mean, the banana one banana flavored Eli, one banana. Yeah, but look man anybody who says they like any banana flavored anything that is not an actual banana They are lying to try to fuck you These people are fucking monsters. They need to be tied in a sack and drowning of that of banana flavor You know what? Tom is just Tom lock it in. I've never agreed with you more than right now. Oh my God. I locked in and I've never agreed with you more.
Starting point is 00:14:28 Hold on. You've never had the banana now and later? You didn't like that. Those are the worst things in the history of candy. I will punch you in the mouth and next time I see you. Those last four of us. Your banana rust. That is not a good thing.
Starting point is 00:14:43 Banana rust. Thank you, Elon. What? I mean, what? Fucking disgusting. Those last four long run. Your banana rub. Yes, that is not a good thing. Banana rub. Thank you, Elon. What? I mean, what? Having like a fucking tooth pulled will hurt for a long time. You make it a positive thing. Yikes.
Starting point is 00:14:53 Spolthy you. Oh my god. Double yikes. That's all I'm saying. See, Sillers, I can't rather eat the Sillers. This is more. I wish Noah was here to be the tiebreaker of not liking anything. There's no way. There's no way.
Starting point is 00:15:05 There's no way. Noah 100% like banana flavored foods. There's no way he likes artificial things. There's no way. There's no way he doesn't. It's not a pizza. This is a man who likes hot pockets. He likes banana flavor.
Starting point is 00:15:19 There might be a banana hot pocket. It's not out of the question. It's not an impossible. You got to get him in Mexico. Like real cook. a hot pocket. It's not out of the question. It's not an un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un- Some people think that birds that consume the rice become little rice cookers and they swell up as the rice absorbs the moisture and they die. Some weddings instead throw millet or confetti because won't someone think of the day on birds, whatever.
Starting point is 00:15:59 Some birds eat rice. Some birds don't, but birds pretty much know what they can eat. And I guess if it's a pigeon, I guess that may include cigarette butts too. So actually, so that's just all New Yorkers. How big could the rice get like I've seen right now? I know. It doesn't get like exponentially bigger. It's just like popcorn, right? bigger. It's just again, it's like popcorn, right? Although that would be hilarious if they like, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom,
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Starting point is 00:16:38 boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom,, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, actually first made in Japan, and then Japanese, the Japanese brought them to the United States. We're super racist. Thank you very much. And the potato chips, they weren't invented out of spite because the customer complained that the fries at a restaurant were too thick and they weren't salted enough. This story about this was popularized in a 1973 advertising campaign by St. Regis Paper Company.
Starting point is 00:17:05 Recipes for potato chips go as far back as the early 1800s. St. Regis, what the fuck happened at the paper company that they decided to throw down in the fries versus chips potato fights? I was thinking the same thing. I actually looked this up. St. Regis Paper Company was a paper bag company. So apparently their marketer team was like, we gotta get rid of these thick gas fries that go right through our paper bags.
Starting point is 00:17:32 So let's start a trip or, and that's what they did. Man, every time it was awesome before it sex. Alright, now I got a way to sell our bags. Hold up. Just what if make up some things about the races? How did it in the newspaper? I guess there's a myth, this is crazy. I guess there's a myth that the Mongol warriors
Starting point is 00:17:57 would take the toughest part of the horse meat, slice it thin and then put it under their saddle and ride it all day with hopes that the meat there would become tender. And then they would get under the saddle between the horse and the saddle. That is not specified time. It could be either. I think it's a little grosser under is pretty clear, which is, which is, which is under
Starting point is 00:18:18 it's like, there's like one layer of a tear on the horse and then the saddle. That's what I'm envisioning. That's what I'm thinking. Yes the saddle, that's what I'm envisioning. That's what I'm thinking. That's what I'm thinking. Then, Tom, here's, it doesn't stop there. They would get off the horse then, and then they would cut up the meat and eat it raw, thus inventing steak tartar. Now besides being gross as fuck, this is not true.
Starting point is 00:18:42 Steak tartar is a variation in the hamburger steak or as we know it, the hamburger. And then there's also another hilarious food myth. Spices in medieval cookery were not used to cover up the taste and smell of rotting meat. Spices were extremely expensive in that time. So anyone who could afford them could afford fresh meat. Yeah. And actually the British carry on the medieval tradition and none of their food has ever had contact with flavor of any kind. Can we take a second to talk about how every single myth about the Middle Ages is just
Starting point is 00:19:17 a very obvious child's lie about how gross and stupid the people were about things? He's always like, in the Middle Ages, people ate poop because they thought it was chocolate. I get it. I know they didn't have eye pads people, but they were still adults. Take it back. High-drocks cookies are not an Oreo cookie knockoff. They actually were produced first by about four years. They outsold Oreo cookies for about 40 years, but then in the 1950s, Oreos overtook them. They did it in two ways.
Starting point is 00:19:53 First, Oreos priced their cookies lower. Secondly, they didn't call them like a weird name like Hydrox because people thought that was like a laundry detergent for importance. They didn't do that. Also, if you weren't getting in on the new Oreo cookie flavors, you are a hundred percent missing out. I recommend the mocha latte and the carrot cake. A mint. It's good too.
Starting point is 00:20:13 I was going to come in and recommend the mint, but I was afraid of mockery. It's good. See, but nanowons, do you ever have those? No, no, nobody has. That's disgusting. They don't exist. I will tell you that I tried both the mocha caramel latte and the carrot cake and after eating five packages of Oreos in two weeks, my doctor and kiddie are high drugs to wean me all. No kidding. I am. The dark chocolate. I did also have five packages. Dark chocolate is also
Starting point is 00:20:40 good too, by the way, dark chocolate is also good. They're all so good. They're all so good. No, no, I don't think the mocha Java chip is very good. No, that's actually bad. Yeah, the mocha Java chip is not good. Not good one. Wipped cream was not invented at the Chateau des Chantilly. While it is common to refer to whipped cream as chantilly cream or crème des chantilly, it was invented in the 1500s in Italy.
Starting point is 00:21:06 George Washington Carver did not invent peanut butter. It was invented by the indigenous cultures of Central America, like in the 1400s. Okay, you got to love an invention that happened when some guy was like, all right, this is pretty good, but like, what if we smush it? You're just falling out the side of my sandwich. You can spread it on.
Starting point is 00:21:31 Microwaves cook food from the outside in, not the inside out. Just like defrost some hamburger or something one time in a microwave and you'll find this out. Microwaves only penetrate one centimeter into the food. Microwaves don't cause cancer because it's a non-ionizing radiation.
Starting point is 00:21:50 They are not tuned specifically to the frequency to specifically agitate water. And finally, microwave ovens do not remove nutrients from foods in fact, because of shorter cooking times they may actually preserve the nutrients in foods. In fact, because of shorter cooking times, they may actually preserve the nutrients in foods. Oh, okay. For all of the dumb shits who believe that microwaves are these like barely controlled Fukushima reactors, like that's a pretty fucking intense kitchen gadget, isn't
Starting point is 00:22:20 it? Oh well, area. It's called a microwave. It can unevenly defrost the pork chops. You can reheat your coffee you left sit around. And in a pinch, it's a dirty bomb capable of killing everyone in the city block. Sorry, what? Yeah, they sell like high drops. Okay. So I feel like that last section could just be called people don't know how microwaves could be.
Starting point is 00:22:44 It could be absolutely Elias. And I'm certainly one of them. So, well I pretend to listen while someone explains it to me. Let's take a little break for Appropoe of No. Okay, what about like a swimming shoe? A swimming shoe? Do you hear yourself from it? Dude, I don't know. We're out of activities.
Starting point is 00:23:16 We don't have any other like shoes we can sell for activities. Uh, gentlemen. Johnson, can you think of any more activities we can make shoes for? Uh, still no, sirs. Actually, I had a question about our company's name. It's something sure works. Yeah. Go ahead.
Starting point is 00:23:30 I think, uh, yeah. Does a dentist stand for all day? I dream about soccer because that's what the guys in the lunchroom were saying. Is that true? No, no, no. No, it's actually named after. No, no, no, no, no, no. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:23:42 Yeah. Um, yep. Um, yeah. Yes. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no? All day drinking about soccer, whatever, yeah, whatever you said. Got it. All right, thank you, gentlemen. Dude, what the fuck? Do you want to tell people our company is named after a guy named Adolf?
Starting point is 00:24:13 Okay, I mean, it's not named after that. Does not matter. Doesn't matter. Doesn't matter. The name Adolf is all the table for all time, forever. No naming anything Adolf period. Yeah, okay, fun, fun. What about Go-Card shoes?
Starting point is 00:24:33 Yeah, Go-Card shoes would work. Let me run a past marketing, I like that. Nice, I'm Ethan, right? And I'm Tom Curry. And the only thing we love more than doing this show is money. Nope, Tom, what you doing there? I'm doing the ad for the for the survey thing that we need are. Yeah. Right. Yeah. But you can't start by saying you like money more than the show. Okay.
Starting point is 00:25:11 Yeah. Yeah. Got it. Okay. I like money and doing the show the same amount. No. No. I'm just just don't mention how much you like money like at all. Just don't say that. Okay, try that, got it. Please fill out our survey at citationpod.com slash survey so we can do ads, which may or may not be for money. Nope, nope, nope, okay. Help, you know what, it's fine. But yeah, we're trying to sell ads, takes less than a minute to tell future advertisers about yourself,
Starting point is 00:25:46 and we'd really, really appreciate it. More than money. Citationpod.com slash survey. Okay, we'll give you the money. Okay. And we're back. When we left off, C-Some was like, it's pronounced hoops. What's next? I was like that.
Starting point is 00:26:23 I was exactly like that. I'm going to continue on like that. That's me. I do sound like that. I'm going to continue like that. I was exactly like that. I'm going to continue on like that. That's me. I do sound like that. I'm going to continue like that. Let's do some language myths. I guess sign language is not universal. This is something I did not know. Every country pretty much has its own native sign language and some have multiple sign languages. And we will get tons of messages about this after I finish this. I guarantee it. I've actually heard there's, yeah, there's like dialects of sign language within American sign language. Right. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:26:51 To represent like the accents. Yeah, there's a lot of things. There's a lot of things. Regions, thoughts, yeah. American sign language, violently, violently racist. What? Yeah. Just go ahead and look up. Here's a fun thing to do at home. Look up the American Sign Language for literally any minority group and then bathe in the horror that's what?
Starting point is 00:27:14 What? A lot of people communicate. There's also the myth that the Inuit and the Alute people have like a million words for snow. And I mean, we have multiple words for snow too, but they do not have an inordinate amount of words for it. They do have more root words for snow according to Wikipedia.
Starting point is 00:27:34 And the Hopi people do have a concept of time and the language can express temporal concepts. It's just organized differently than our Western languages. Here's a quote, quote, for many Hopi, time does not proceed in a straight line as most people understand it. Rather, the past may be past and present more or less simultaneously. Yeah, man, living through the 2020s, I really feel like we're all losing a little hope, you know? Okay, so, just to clarify again,
Starting point is 00:28:10 that's just a grammar construction of the book. Yes, they're trapped in simultaneous time dimensions, like a half-ass one-off doctor who Christmas special. It's just a nice part of civil. You haven't have been having had fuck. We're in the void again. No, what's not? What was that? English speakers don't not use blue perfect either.
Starting point is 00:28:32 We don't get stuck in voids. There's no thing white racists won't I know. I think they have people amazing. It's amazing. You know the Hopi's they don't have time. They just shimmer in it. And they're all on the boats. They couldn't see when Columbus came over.
Starting point is 00:28:53 There appears to be a legend that the word gringo in Mexican Spanish is a corruption of the phrase green grow, a phrase which I guess appears in multiple folk songs, it's also not a corruption of the phrase green go home, which supposedly refers to the green uniforms, are soldiers wear or the color of our money. The word originally just meant foreigner, and perhaps it's another alteration of the word Greek in Spanish, which is Greeko, which could mean it's all Greek to them. The JFK perhaps perpetuated the idea that the word crisis in Chinese is made up of the symbols for danger and opportunity.
Starting point is 00:29:38 I guess the first symbol does mean danger, but the second one is inflection point. Also, the word crisis in English is from the Greek word for inflection point of a disease. Pretty much exactly the same, right? The term for 20 is not the penal code for marijuana use. I guess people say it's the penal code in LA for smoking pot, but the section 420 quote prohibits the obstruction of access to public land and quote. I guess 420 originated from a high school in San Rafael, California. The term is derived from the time students at that school would meet as a group to smoke. Okay, but I do love that 420 actually comes from me like weirdly, rigidly organized
Starting point is 00:30:26 smoke break. Okay, okay. But imagine how much it must have you and your stoner friends be the origins of 420. And nobody believes you. All right. The Italian slur whop is not an acronym for Without Papers or Without Passport. It is derived from the term Woppo, which means thug, or dandy, which seems like a pretty wide-ranging term. Crap does not come from the British plumber's name Thomas Craper. Instead it comes from the Latin crap. The word ye, as in like ye oldy, is not an earlier form of the word. Instead, this is black letter printing and its similarity of characters, an obsolete character called the thorn, which has a TH sound, was similar in shape to a Y. That's another joke for me. The best part of ye is that it was pronounced then the and now because we're fucking stupid,
Starting point is 00:31:31 the modern common pronunciation of an old word is the new never was pronunciation of a word we only use improperly to inaccurately convey a word that wasn't used in a time that didn't happen that way. This is so us, right? The word fuck is not an acronym. It does not mean for unlawful carnal knowledge or fornicating under consent of king. Some legends say that it was inscribed in the stocks of adulterers, as they were putting in the stocks there. And also is not a derivative of the phrase pluck you in reference to drawing back in English longbow. Fuck is most likely derived from the Dutch folk in, I don't know if I'm saying that correctly, please Dutch people send e-lier messages. That means to copulate with the Norwegian Fuca, which means to copulate or Faka in Swedish,
Starting point is 00:32:32 which means push, strike, copulate or penis. Okay. Feel like you'd want clarity between strike, push or copulate. I guess. Yes. That does explain the admirably high Swedish body count on everything. You need words for all those things. You want me to penis while the iron's hot?
Starting point is 00:32:52 That's very confusing. Not in Sweden, it's not. I'm pyre calling balls and penises. The rule of thumb was not about a rule the size of a stick you were able to beat your wife with. Some think this phrase originated as a regulation. You couldn't smack your wife with a stick thicker than your thumb. Places like the Washington Post, time and CNN have all spread this myth turns out that in fact it was a holdover from the 1600s when several different trades measured quantities by the width or the length of a worker's thumb.
Starting point is 00:33:30 Okay, so now let's look at some sport and video game misconceptions. They're fun. The name of the sport golf is not an acronym for gentlemen only ladies forbidden. The Dutch word, wolf, is the word for club. So it could have evolved from that word and the Scottish having a hard time pronouncing it without sounding like it clinging on. It also is possible that it comes from the Scottish word wolf, which means to cuff or strike. And the wiki. A C-Sol quick correction. That's how every Scottish word sounds.
Starting point is 00:34:05 Yeah, no, they all sound like wolf. A hundred percent. They're all gulf. Yeah. The Wiki mentions that before they chopped off her head for a failed assassination to marry Queen of Scots like golfing. So the acronym doesn't make much sense. Also, there's a myth that Abner double day, a civil war general, invented baseball in Cooperstown, New York. The game is actually believed to have originated as a derivative game from crickets or rounders.
Starting point is 00:34:34 Oh, that's too bad, because the only thing more boring than baseball is the civil war. It would have been like that. Okay, but fun fact, in the original version of baseball, you could peg the runner instead of packing them. Kelly, you gotta be fair, way less boring.
Starting point is 00:34:49 Yeah. Another fun fact, the reason Abner double pay got credit is super dumb. In 1907, that's like 16 years after double day died, I think the owner of the Spalding Sporting Goods Company, AJ Spalding, set up a special commission to determine who invented baseball. And their main evidence was just some guy who said he went to school with Abner Double Day. And that guy said, yeah, my friend definitely invented
Starting point is 00:35:19 the whole thing when we got bored with stickin' hoop one day. He totally pulled off and ended that. Nothing to do with cricket. So obviously based on cricket. Ha ha ha. Violent video games are not the cause of violent behavior. There isn't any evidence that violent video games make people violent or cause them to act violently.
Starting point is 00:35:38 Quote, studies have consistently found no link between aggression and violent video games and the popularity of gaming has coincided with the decrease in youth violence and quote, but there was a moral panic around video games going back to the 1980s when parents neglected the fuck out of their children and needed to blame that shit on anything but themselves. Oh yeah, kids been outside since, oh, see, uh, two o'clock last March. Ah, but Jesus Christ, have you seen Gallagher?
Starting point is 00:36:12 Somebody's got to do something. Somebody else's got to do something. Okay, here's something I've never understood about this moral panic, right? Right wing idiots want to be violent, right? Their whole thing is like, I'm a man and I'll put you in the balls. But they don't want their video games making their kids violent.
Starting point is 00:36:33 Do they picture a ceremony at 18 when one becomes positively violent? I don't understand. That's your thing. That's not out of the question that there's some sort of like Nazi violence confirmation.. We don't know like a dubbing or a driving seat pack. Yeah. Be jeweled will not replace us. In the game civilization one and two, there is a misconception that the computer controlled
Starting point is 00:37:01 Gandhi character can become nuclear Gandhi and like become super aggressive if democracy is adopted in the game. Just nuclear Gandhi and Dr. Manhattan and the hope you tried just hanging out in the time void. All right. Should we do anything? I don't know if they're worth it. The myth blames this on integer underflow, meaning that the computer got to like a number, it couldn't go past, and then the odometer flipped. The game designer actually says that this is impossible in the coding language that they
Starting point is 00:37:32 used for the game. It seems like this myth was popularized by both Reddit and Kotaku, and then in a grand tradition of owning the meme, the company actually added it to the game in civilization five and six as a nod to the myth. The Japanese government did not have to regulate the release dates of Dragon Quest series produced by Square Enix. The misconception is that they had to make sure that the game is released on Friday or on a weekend so that the game wouldn't cause children to play it to become true. And evidently, there were Japanese congressional hearings held over the number of muggings
Starting point is 00:38:09 that occurred during like when Greg Dragon Quest III was released. But the decision to release the game on a weekend was the company's decision, not a governmental mandate. Also in 2021, Dragon Quest X was released on a Thursday. So the Mrs. Prima's busted there. Game space invaders was supposedly so popular in Japan that the 100-yen coin had had like a shortage that which doesn't make a lot of sense because the game just doesn't like destroy the coins or something. There was a shortage during that year because the government didn't produce as many as
Starting point is 00:38:48 they normally did, and they were also being held onto by speculators because the coins had a high saltwood content. The rumor was repeated by new scientists, the Guardian, the Guinness Book of World Records, and the ultimate history of video games, and it seems to originate from an advertising campaign from the Tadal Corporation. Okay. See, so I'm sorry real quick, but Yen is actually pronounced.
Starting point is 00:39:11 She reads your own essay. We got to read the script for that one podcast. We promise it's good. It's good. It's good. It's a call back to ye oldie guys. Just listen back to that part. Some maybe something. No, it doesn't help. Some, yeah. Some final legal tidbits, cops in the United States, if I identify themselves, if you ask
Starting point is 00:39:38 them, that's, that's not a thing. You don't, of course, they don't have, how can we have under cover? It's so stupid, but it's literally in the wiki heath. You cannot have your Miranda rights read to you and still get convicted. It's just things that you said might not be admissible. Yeah. Actually, the Supreme Court would have stopped you in the first half of that sentencing. So, you don't have to wait 24 hours before filing a missing persons report. In fact, the first 72 hours of a missing persons case are like the most crucial. And finally, the first amendment to the Constitution means that the government cannot restrict the freedom of religion, speech, the press for assembly or petition. Private individuals or businesses are not subject to this unless
Starting point is 00:40:23 they are acting on the government's behalf. All right. Aren't they people? I thought they were people. People have votes. Can't get an abortion on Twitter. I don't know. Anyways, if you had to summarize what you've learned in one sentence, Essel, what would it be? I learned so much, but the real treasure are the misconceptions we made friends with along the way. And are you ready for the quiz? I have to say yes here or the episode ends like really abruptly, so we have to go on.
Starting point is 00:40:52 Yes. All right, Cecil, these are some great misconceptions, by the way, but when I hear the word misconceptions, I think of pregnancy myths, huh? A missed conception. Clubber. Which of the below is not a real actual sex and pregnancy myth? Hey, you can't get pregnant if you have sex standing up. Use that one before, God. B, you can't get pregnant the first time you have sex. C, you can't get pregnant if you do jumping jacks after sex. That for either person? Drops right out. What if you do them jacks after sex that for either person drops right out
Starting point is 00:41:26 What if you do a mopside out? D more practice are all taken from a state of California website Because E 19 states have sex ed classes that are abstinence only god damn it. Oh, it turns out there's an answer It turns out there is there's one that's not true turns out it is E all the it is he is the one that is not true It's 20 states that have sex at classes that are abstinence only bummer so
Starting point is 00:41:58 All right, I hate now All right, Cecil which are the following video game myths turned out to be true? A, finding 2,041 coins exactly in Super Mario 64 unlocks the Ouija as a playable character. B, as well as the video cartridges that have pins, does anything. C, you're not through the shirt. Dr. Robotnik was originally designed as the game's hero, or D, you can fix a damaged game CD with toothpaste. Uh, the last one.
Starting point is 00:42:39 Uh, uh, A, A's true. Unfortunately, it is not true. No, it is C. Dr. Robotnik was originally designed as the game's hero, really, hey, hey, it's true. Unfortunately, it is not true. No, it is C. Dr. Robotnik was originally designed as the game's hero, really, and got beaten out by Sonic and they loved him so much that they kept him and redesigned him into the villain. Interesting. All right, Cecil, we got one more for you.
Starting point is 00:42:59 Sure, I'm ready. Which of the following is the most reasonable belief that's currently held by millions and millions of people right now? Hey intelligent design B trickle down economics. Yikes. C I'm going to be sexually fulfilling to my monogamy partner forever because I'm that fucking good at sex
Starting point is 00:43:21 or D some guy yelled let's roll and a team of a kind of a patriots risk controlled their way past high jackers with weapons and took down that plane over Pennsylvania on night. All right. No, and it didn't get shot down very clearly, but no, no. Which would you say is? And B turns out the least reasonable belief is D because that's crazy. But you got it wrong according to the formula or something and Eli wins.
Starting point is 00:43:53 He exposed 9-11 so he wins. Oh no, Eli tells me that I win. And now I listen to me as I speak. He will speak. I'll speak. I'll speak. I'll speak. I'll speak. I'll speak. I'll speak. I'll speak. I'll speak.
Starting point is 00:44:09 I'll speak. I'll speak. I'll speak. I'll speak. I'll speak. I'll speak. I'll speak. I'll speak.
Starting point is 00:44:17 I'll speak. I'll speak. I'll speak. I'll speak. I'll speak. I'll speak. I'll speak. I'll speak. I'll speak. I'll speak. I'll speak. I be light. You okay? That is, that's our buddy.
Starting point is 00:44:25 I had to do it by being Thomas in here too. And Thomas is very light. Yeah, thank you. Did I do Tom? Did I not do Tom? I was saying Tom and I wasn't listening to. All right, for Tom. See, so, he and Noah, I'm Eli Bosnick.
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Starting point is 00:45:17 [♪ OUTRO MUSIC PLAYING [♪ Man, that ending to Lost was both satisfying and it definitely tied all the loose ends together. Loved it. Right? Like, I do not feel like I wasted all of my time watching that show. Not at all. Yeah. Guys, are you ready to leave the Myth Conception universe?
Starting point is 00:45:40 Can we do Game of Thrones first? Can we do the Game of Thrones first? Please! Oh, yeah! Fine, fine. You guys can watch a good ending to Game of Thrones. Nice. Alright. God, that ending fucking sucked so much. Right!

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