Club Random with Bill Maher - Bella Thorne | Club Random w/Bill Maher

Episode Date: April 11, 2022

Bill Maher and Bella Thorne randomly riff on Bella’s love of Lady Deadpool, Bella’s politically incorrect dog naming process, distractions during sex, Bill tries to help Bella with her anxiety, an...d how Bella was signed to be a model while she was still a fetus.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Closing up. Everybody wants you these days. That's kind of be like, hey there. Aren't you Mrs. Deadpool or something? Oh my goodness. I have big stress. My love for Deadpool. And the fans love it.
Starting point is 00:00:21 They just, you know, they love it. And they really ran with it. Sometimes people do the casting. Do you have a drink? Do you want a drink? I have like, my little girl. You know, people sometimes like cast, they cast Tina Fey as Sarah Palin. You know, they just sort of like insisted.
Starting point is 00:00:45 It was like, oh, you know, that's who else is gonna play Sarah Palin, Dean of Fame. She kind of looked like her and, you know, it just, yeah, just, it just made for fun. Oh, also, hey, we brought you a, and that'll get the, because I was told you smoke. So, I brought you some things too. Oh, Matt, thank God I love that.
Starting point is 00:01:09 Yeah, we can put it down here. Remember about me smoking? Oh, yeah. Yeah, that rumor made us all around the block. Yeah, I am. I own a cannabis brand. And it's called what? For bitten flowers.
Starting point is 00:01:23 For bitten flowers. For bitten flowers. Why forbidden? Because I feel like I'm not forbidding myself on any of it. I, you know, really hate the stigma around weed. I fell into weed because of like serious. Oh, this is beautiful. Stomach issues and anxiety and like crippling anxiety.
Starting point is 00:01:48 And weed has really changed my life. And what is it with your kids and anxiety? What is causing all the anxiety? I think everything, the way that the world is now, it's you know, constant. But just bad, bad, bad, everywhere you look is so bad. You know what,
Starting point is 00:02:09 I find this to be a... I find this to be a genuine argument because your generation doesn't know what's going on in the world. So how can you be that fucking concerned about what's going on in the world? I know what's going on in the world. I should have the anxiety. I follow it.
Starting point is 00:02:27 You kids don't follow it. You don't know what the fuck's going on in the world. What are you upset about? What is the world problem? Definitely things that we know what's going on. Maybe we don't know. No, not necessarily always the full story. 100% of the full story.
Starting point is 00:02:42 But I think we definitely, yeah, we're seeing it. We're hearing it and we're vocal about it. And all these young kids growing up with this form of social media and media in general, it's just, it's like, wow, how long is it going to be before we're just used to it? And it's not that bad anymore, you know. Can I tell you, I have been sent in my life quite a few boxes and set up with this is such a beautiful, I mean, it is so elegant. Thank you. I don't think I've ever seen more.
Starting point is 00:03:19 I think I've seen more. Really? Yeah, I love it. As you can see the ombre. It's such a piece of art, this box of dope. It's so pretty, right? And people love to collect them. Look at this airstrike.
Starting point is 00:03:29 Oh, if you're listening to this while you're walking your dog, you're missing such a great thing. This is so beautiful. I mean, that's a real, I mean, that cannot be cheap either. It looks like it's from Tiffany's or something. Yeah, Glass House, who does forbidden flowers is amazing. And why I wanted them was because that's so much care and actual effort into what the product is
Starting point is 00:03:54 and how it feels, the real product. And I met so many weed companies before. And I just, when I found Glass House outs I was like wow and you guys you guys care. This is why everyone wants a piece of you. What is that? That's a... How's your... Yes, yes. I love that you have a piece. That's a cigarette case that I used to...
Starting point is 00:04:22 How is my clothes cigarette? Which I don't know what they're putting in these clothes these days, but it is. It's about the clothes. But that's why, because you put so much care into that. I mean, you're obviously artistic. Well, I knew that. You know, every time I've seen you, I always thought, well, that's a cool check. You know, I wonder if she would come here and do a thing like that. Oh, yeah. And then when you said, yes,, I always thought, well, that's a cool check. You know, I wonder if she would come here and do a thing like that.
Starting point is 00:04:46 Oh, yeah. And then when you said, yes, I thought, oh, well, my instinct was right. Because I always thought you were cool because you would never like sort of back down when they came at you. I mean, I know you're dealing with the anxiety and all that. And you know, this is probably where the anxiety is coming from.
Starting point is 00:05:04 Hate. Yeah. There's so is probably where the anxiety is coming from. Hate. Yeah. So much hate in the world. Yeah. Especially, no. Also, the pettiness on social media, your generation, is just fucking harpies on each other. It's like, I don't know how you deal with it.
Starting point is 00:05:17 Yeah, I would have anxiety too. Yeah. If I, I don't know what it would have been like, if I grew up with like that kind of shit. And it's interesting, when I confront people your age with this, they never like deny it and like defend it. They're never like, no, we're not like that.
Starting point is 00:05:35 They're always like, yeah, I know it sucks. And it's like, I know, but it's your generation. If it sucks and you can control it, why don't you? Because you can't control it because you can control yourself, but you can't control the world. you can control yourself, but you can't control the world. You can control that world. You know, even in friend groups,
Starting point is 00:05:49 like, you know, we've got a really hippie friend group. There's some people that even like to make jokes about each other and, you know, they have a certain dynamic in their friend group. That's very, you know, a little like knifey, but everyone's best friends, but they like to do these little digs that ends up making people like later on in life You didn't even think it was anything and then you're like, oh, actually, I'm insecure about that now. Who knew?
Starting point is 00:06:11 Right. And in our group like, you know, I've been in, you know, making friends for a while and it's so interesting every time, you know, we meet a new friend, make a new friend We're very specific in our group. As soon as we start to see those kind of more negative tendencies come out, our group like we're just too hippie.
Starting point is 00:06:32 It's okay, I don't smoke it unless I roll it, but I can roll one. I have this thing. I have this thing. I have this thing. Maybe you do not have to explain that for two seconds more. I totally get that. I mean, I'm not a, that is not one of my anxieties,
Starting point is 00:06:48 but I totally respect that. And you are actually not even the first one to do that in that seat. Freddie Gibbs? Love Freddie Gibbs. He was here very recently and he did the same thing. I totally respect that. First of all, I admire anyone who can roll.
Starting point is 00:07:06 I've never, ever been able to roll. It was always a stumbling block in my development as an artist, I feel like. But much funnier and freer if I could have at least just learned to roll a fucking joint. But my joint state, it just looks like I killed the cockroach. It's terrible. And some people can make it look
Starting point is 00:07:25 I swear to God like a cigarette. Well, oh yeah, well, I, it's, you'll see. It's like a really about getting that, what's it called, that shape, you know, tighter, tightest at the end and fatter up towards you here. Talk slower. Talk slower. Talk slower. Talk slower. And that's important because some people...
Starting point is 00:07:47 Very ironic description of a... Some people just roll, like, they don't know how to close the back end. And I don't even roll with a filter. I'll just walk a filter. I'll just walk a filter. Just on the tree. It's a funny people do people do lionize you, like sexually, more than, like,
Starting point is 00:08:08 there's always like a couple of chicks in any generation and they're like, wow, like, they're the go-to, like when people want to like an example of something, somebody who like oozes sexuality, they say, like you, like they would have a Pamela Anderson in a certain era. Mm-hmm. I mean, that's a lot to live up to. Love up to?
Starting point is 00:08:30 Yeah, for you. Oh, I think, I guess, technically, it's like, I'm already living it. For people. I think I've always been as well, like, kind of a sexual person, so I just feel like even when I'm not, like, trying to be sexual, people are, like, kind of a sexual person. So I just feel like even when I'm not like trying to be sexual, people are still like, I don't know, she's so sexy.
Starting point is 00:08:50 Like, there's something like that's really sexy about her that's so sexual. And I'm like, I don't really see what it is necessarily, but people just, you know, they just run with it. Well, I'm sorry, it's something that you, I mean, what gives it its power is that you can't define it exactly. You know what I said, what they call an X factor, you know?
Starting point is 00:09:13 And... Sick, what is that thing? Yeah, that extra thing. Well, if you could quantify it, it would lose its power. That's what, there's a mystery about it. You're right. I mean, like, why can line up 100 pretty girls, but like, one stands out. Like, why did you get to be where you are? It's just, you know, it's partly work. It's partly an intelligence, usually, that sometimes somehow reads. And it's something like an X factor. You know, people don't fucking
Starting point is 00:09:42 know. They just, they just, I saw you in this movie. I think it also, like, you know, it depends. Like, there's just every woman is so fucking smart, and then, you know, you, it's like, there's this thing that's kind of been put on women, and you kind of have to, in some situations, like better to act not dumb but naive. And I see some girls that kind of views that. And I'm like, I don't know why you're so fucking smart and I actually know you as a person. And I think it's just from over time.
Starting point is 00:10:20 And that's why people say I'm kind of like, in your face a little bit because, like you said, I kind of stick to my word. And I'm very like, oh, no, like, you know, like this. And I wasn't the kid that wasn't doing their homework. I was a kid that was asking for more homework in school onset to do. And when did the anxiety start?
Starting point is 00:10:43 You know, I don't know. I think that when, as you get older, you start to kind of time things. You start to see rhythms in your life that happen. For a second, I was getting, not a second, at very quite a few years. I was getting this terrible, terrible chest cramp that I got, thank you so much.
Starting point is 00:11:09 Oh wow, this is such an interesting. I'm like, how do I, let me break this off. Oh, oh. I have anxiety with you just, I'm just gonna say, honey, don't worry about it. There's nothing, no rush. Thank you. But I used to get this terrible, terrible crap.
Starting point is 00:11:29 I remember one time I was walking. Ram? This cramp. Yeah, this just debilitating cramp. Brought on by Anglade. Brought on by... And I didn't know for so much time growing up, like I got a colonoscopy up or Oscar me when I turned 18.
Starting point is 00:11:44 Because I did not know what the fuck was wrong with me a colonoscopy, upperoscomy when I turned 18. Because I did not know what the fuck was wrong with me and one time as well, I remember, it's just so clear it's day walking out of this movie theater and I was like 15, 15, 16 and I just like, I had had cramps before, but this one was just so bad that I literally am walking outside and fault physically to my knees, like so fucking dramatic, and I just could not move.
Starting point is 00:12:10 I just stayed on the floor, and I was like, what is happening to me in my life? What's happening? Literally, doctors, we found nothing. It's just anxiety. Like, you know, here's, you can take a picture of pills. It's just, they just say it's anxiety. Like, it's not even... I know, we found nothing. It's just anxiety, like, you know, here's, you can take a picture of it. It's just, they just say it's anxiety.
Starting point is 00:12:26 Like, it's not even, look. It's not like, oh, here's all the things you have anxiety about. Of course, you're always gonna have anxiety in your life about like, pretty much a lot of things. But when it gets to such an extreme point where you might think I'm okay, like I'm acting normal, but my body is like, no bitch, you is not cute right now,
Starting point is 00:12:46 you is anxious as fuck, and here is a cramp to tell you. Right, Bella, if we're going to make any progress in this psychiatrist patient relationship, you're going to have to identify where the anxiety is coming from. We have to find the head of the snake. Right. You know, there's an alien on the ship and someone's gonna have to go up there with a flame thrower
Starting point is 00:13:08 and find it and fucking kill it. Yeah. Because, you know, when we, when it first got on the ship, we thought it was just a little fucking hardless, little unicellular creature. And then it grew like crazy fast. And now it's this big fucking crap in your stomach. Oh, I'm gonna say you're gonna.
Starting point is 00:13:27 And, but we, you know, we gotta get there. So, I'm gonna take a guess. I think it's- Do you get anxiety? No. Well, of course everyone gets anxiety to a degree. But I get way less than I used to. When I had anxiety, I was a child like, you know, I mean, not a child, but, yes, child into adolescence, I had turbulence.
Starting point is 00:13:48 I went to school every day with a knot in my stomach because I was afraid I was going to be the kid who was ostracized. You know, that was a big way we had before social media of being assholes. Kids are assholes. That's the banner headline. Underneath that, the technology changes of being assholes. Kids are assholes. That's the banner headline. Underneath that, the technology changes how
Starting point is 00:14:08 they're assholes, but they're born assholes. And they would, there was one kid who was made fun of unmercifully. And sometimes, from reasons I've still to this day, don't know, sometimes it wasn't that kid, and it was some other kid. And sometimes that kid was me. I was like second in line to be ostracized.
Starting point is 00:14:27 So I was always worried. I was going to be the kid who like, you know, when they would call it giving you the cold shoulder. No one would talk to you, you know. If you had to pick a song to sing for the pledge of allegiance or something, they wouldn't do yours. It was like, this is the same shit that kids,
Starting point is 00:14:47 because kids get their jollies being mean to other kids. I think also when you're growing up, you don't really know right from wrong. You have an idea of right from wrong and every day. You think, be right, be good today. Parents have to teach children. Yes, and I think in general, there is this this certain curiosity to
Starting point is 00:15:08 to the younger part of your life. There's a very big curiosity that kind of lets you know the balance of right and wrong and some people step over that line and then say, oh, shit, that's the line. I didn't know that was wrong. I feel bad, shit. I won't do that again. Some people step it, step it again, step it again, and it takes them a while to understand why this is wrong. They might like know it's wrong, but they still have all these other forces pushing them, you know, past that line. I was also bullied growing up,
Starting point is 00:15:40 so like I totally get it. And I just feel bad for everyone involved. Everyone's got fucked up shit to deal with, and even the bullies who are terrible also have terrible conditions that they are dealing with that make them act this way and act out and shit. And you're just like, man, it's all one big cluster of fuck. Well, we have to make the connection here between why they act like assholes and why you feel bad.
Starting point is 00:16:08 And the connection is making you feel bad, is what makes them feel good, feel superior, or yeah, whatever it is, it's your pain, it's coming at the expense of their pleasure, but somehow, big in themselves up, pain is coming at the expense of their pleasure, but somehow, big in themselves up to what, right? People, you think this is, oh, this is so bad, right? But people do this every day, like when you go through a breakup
Starting point is 00:16:36 and then your person starts dating someone new and you're all on their Instagram for you looking at it and being like, oh, this person's like this and they totally seem like superficial, like blah, blah, blah, and you're just finding reasons to kind of fill your own self-doubt and insecurity and people do that every fucking day and don't even realize that that is not a good habit.
Starting point is 00:16:57 That's a bad habit to start and that habit only gets worse in other situations. You know, let's say someone kind of throws a dig so you're like, oh, I'll throw a dig back. Yeah, another tricky line that people cross every day and don't know what that line really is. What would you assess honestly, your participation in this sorry fiasco?
Starting point is 00:17:28 Well, of digs and have you never done it yourself? Are you the truth? Oh, no. I've definitely been. Okay. So you're not blingless in the scenario, you're so. Oh, no, no, no. And you know, in your head even, you do this as well. Like, let's say you'll tear someone down and it's really
Starting point is 00:17:41 because you don't have things that that person has, okay? And then you look in the mirror and you're like, I'm ugly in this, I can work on this, I can work on that. But you don't ever sit in the mirror and say, I love this about myself, this is actually great. I fucking woke up today and that's a clap on the back, just right there. And you constantly have that kind of negative shit.
Starting point is 00:18:01 And when I was younger, that used to be really bad. And I would see that kind of, that stuff kind of come out of my mouth, like word vomit, almost like negativity. And luckily, I have my sister, Danny, who is a hippie at heart and has the best, you know, even when she's finding her moral, she's always on that good side. And so now, like I said, our group is like really weary of kind of making comments or saying something that might be negative or hurt someone's feelings. And, you know, to do that as well, you got to like start to, you know, love yourself. And that's, that's always a tough battle.
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Starting point is 00:20:40 Do you think it would change your whole mindset about this and you'd be like, oh my God, we're obsessing about this bullshit about breakups and this one and that one and what they're wearing and who looks cuter and who because two pounds too fat and all this bullshit. And it would help you in some way if there was actually something real to worry about because I think a lot of the people who are the most anxious have the most privileged lives. I mean look at your life, everybody wants it. Everybody wants to be you. I don't know, I think that's a very narrow kind of mindset, you know, in the way of trauma.
Starting point is 00:21:28 Everyone really has, you know, their trauma. What's happening in Ukraine is unspeakable. That is something else. But as far as trauma for every human being, you know, I lost my dad when I was eight. I was molested growing up. I went through shit, everybody goes through shit. Like when you kind of lose your two major thing, you judge it by its cover and you say, oh, you're like, well, everyone,
Starting point is 00:21:59 even in any platform at any time in anyone's life, we do that as a society. We look at someone and say, you know, oh, they have it all. They must be so fucking happy. You've got nothing to complain about in your life. And you're like, yeah, well, you know, there's still what they're therapist every day, you know, and they might have like PTSD nightmares and traumas
Starting point is 00:22:20 and other things that help their dreams. Like, you know, it's... Being, yes, molestation is a serious trauma. And death, death in the family is so hard to grow when out of all their holy shit I cannot even tell you. When a child is that young, that is, yeah. So hard.
Starting point is 00:22:39 So those are legitimate real traumas. On a par with the kind of things that people can go through in a war, not quite as bad, but yeah. No, they're not even terrible. Like, again, that's unspeakable. No more than just the regular bullshit. Yes, I'll give you that.
Starting point is 00:22:57 But being with a therapist every day, can also, yeah, I'll give you that. But can also be a indulgence. You know, what about people who have trauma and can't afford a therapist? What do they do? Oh, exactly. That is like so many fucking people. And even people that can afford it,
Starting point is 00:23:14 there's so much stigma around getting help and talking about things and being out. That's like one of the best things right now about social media. That's like one of the most healthy parts that really make me think like there's the things things right now about social media. That's like one of the most healthy parts that really make me think like there's the things in the world about social media is the openness that we have now about seeing therapists,
Starting point is 00:23:34 about even talking about suicide hotlines. Like things now where you're like, wow, we really are. But don't you think some people overdo it with a therapist? It's, and again, it's an indulgence. Like, an indulgence? Yes, it's time. To talk about your feelings. And to talk about what makes you you,
Starting point is 00:23:50 when the smartest thing is like being knowing who you are every day. See a therapist every day. Then what you said, some people say that. No, no, no, that's not what I said. No. Well, anyway, a therapist, yes, I think people who are in therapy for 30 years, I mean, we're trying to find the root of something or cure something.
Starting point is 00:24:13 And every day is also filled with trauma. You don't know what's going to happen. Your brother could die. This could happen to you. All like your life could be split upside down. It's a certain point. Shouldn't a therapist or seeing one train you to be able to do that for yourself without the therapist?
Starting point is 00:24:28 I think great therapists. Great therapists, like for instance, my therapist taught me to say where when you go down the rabbit hole of a negative thought, right? And the negative thought could be anything. And then it's another one, and another one. And now when it comes to a place where these starts aren't helpful, you're not doing better, you can't learn from these thoughts, there's no good exchange for you there. It's just negative and another one, another one, another one.
Starting point is 00:24:51 When you do that, she was saying, it very much helps to take a light colored object. I usually have a lot of neon lighters, but you take one and you pick it up and you put it down. And you pick it up and you put it down, you pick it up. And you do that and this motion, changing your body helps the thought go away, helps kind of interrupt that cycle a little bit.
Starting point is 00:25:16 And so then you're able to, okay, I can move on to a new thought. And that has helped me so many times, small things like that as well that you use in your life. Like, you know, the more I go to therapy, I'm sure the more as well, there's so many things that I will learn if you have a good therapist that not only am I just going to talk about what happened, but I need tools to fix it. I don't want to walk around like this every day or the person I am and I have these negative things
Starting point is 00:25:47 that I want to change. I don't want to keep doing this. And it doesn't just help for me to just, you know, sometimes sit there and talk about it for an hour. No, I want something to help me get out of these habits. Well, I'll just say two things. One, you know that among the crazy people in the world, like therapists, very high quotient
Starting point is 00:26:05 of truly crazy people are therapists. The crazy... Really? Absolutely. The craziest people in the world are psychiatrists. They just are. What? Well, it must be so such an interesting thing
Starting point is 00:26:17 to understand the human brain in such a way. Like, if it could be crazy smart. Well, I don't know. I mean, I'm not saying therapy can't do good and has done good and we should have therapy, yes. There is absolutely place for that. We should have therapy. Absolutely should be a place for that.
Starting point is 00:26:36 I should not, but some people should. I allow for that. But you allow for that. You allow for that. How long can this guy have with you before you go, oh wait, I've been seeing you for seven years and I'm not really better, maybe it's you. Maybe you're not a great drink because shouldn't I be at a more advanced place in this journey I'm trying to get to where I'm not.
Starting point is 00:27:04 But depends, how advanced are you in your journey? Is it helping or is it not? Do you feel like some things are helped or some things aren't? Well how long do you give it? How long do you give it? That's a good question. I don't know. And if you have a broken leg and it wasn't really, it's happened years. I'm like, Doc, you know, I've been on the bench since the 96 playoffs. Good night. You know, I mean, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, playoffs. You know, I mean, you're being... I myself haven't been in therapy very long because also there was kind of, you know, I was a part of the stigma around the word therapy.
Starting point is 00:27:37 You know, that kind of just sounded a little odd and like, I'm just going to talk about my feelings and do this and like, what, I'm just going to cry for an hour. Like, that sounds fucking fun. Like, I wanna fucking do that with my day. And then, you know, it took me a while of, you know, bad habits and seeing being unhappy, being uncontrollably unhappy to sometimes that you're just like, I literally don't want,
Starting point is 00:28:00 even just talking about the feeling is like getting me choked up, like just thinking about being in that spot again in my life. You know, and then I finally was like, okay, I'm actually just gonna bite the bullet and like try a few therapists. And if it doesn't work and I don't like you, whatever, okay, but like I'm just gonna try because what's the other option?
Starting point is 00:28:19 Keep going down this road of negativity and self-taught and insecurity and just, you know, trauma like fuck that. And just, let's say, just talking to you now for just this small amount of time. I really see why you are so big as you are and why you have this giant fan base and why that's a big thing around you. You, because you're a hot chick who also is,
Starting point is 00:28:46 who's completely, the hot chick, and who's open and vulnerable, you know, about the fact that it hasn't made you that happy. And that's a very, I could see how that's a very attractive thing to people and how lots of people, especially your age, look at that and, I think if any age when you see someone being honest
Starting point is 00:29:06 You're like damn that's hard right it's hard to be honest and life is hard to be honest with yourself Sure and to be outspoken with your honesty in front of people so hard times that by millions It's like you're like, you know, we just know it's it's it's hard to be honest I love I love honesty. I'd rather someone give it to me fucking straight all day long than... That's what you're here for in Club Red. Yeah, definitely. We know Lube, we put it right in.
Starting point is 00:29:37 Yeah, we're all dogging. But look, I mean, as much as they're, too, when you are on the world stage, and you're right, everything is magnified by a zillion, it is harder, but you're not about to give it all up and open a yarn store in Vermont. I mean, let's be honest. I mean, who said anything about giving it up? I'm saying you're not.
Starting point is 00:30:01 Like, as much as there are things that come with it that are not that attractive and magnify your anxiety, you still... Yeah, that's why I don't sit there. It's still better than being bored. That's why I also don't sit there like a lot of interviews and stuff really do, you know, want to talk about the negative side, the negative side. And, you know, as I've gotten a little bit older in my life,
Starting point is 00:30:25 I just don't wanna see things in such a negative way, like social media, for instance, that's such an easy one, like man, a place for hateful things are set, you know? And now, like I'm always trying to find positives about social media. And I try and do that with things in any of the negative spectrum with things in my life.
Starting point is 00:30:44 But, you know, I get asked all the time, like, these kind of very negative questions wanting, you know, to talk about the dark things about anything, you know, and you're like- I mean, social media. It's not around a little bit, guys. Yeah. It has been rocket fuel for your career. Oh, yeah. Social media has been rocket fuel for everyone's career.
Starting point is 00:31:03 Like, damn. Well, not mine. Yeah. But I mean, I did it the old fashioned way. Fuck yeah. Fuck yeah. Oh, that is quite a... Oh right, you're engaged now.
Starting point is 00:31:16 Oh yes. Which one is the... Uh, this one. Oh. This is crazy. It's so much like brass knuckles. Yeah. She says, Chris Rockman and I piss you off.
Starting point is 00:31:29 These jeans. Did a dent in somebody's head. Yeah. Oh, that's an engagement ring. Yeah. That is the coolest thing of this one. Thank you. Yeah, this one.
Starting point is 00:31:40 No other than we're. But to help design it. No other than we're small. But the pre-order. Did your boy do that so it would match the other ones like in sort of size and stature? What is this? The Eiffel Tower? What?
Starting point is 00:31:52 I like to think it's an arena. You could put drugs in there. I know it doesn't open up. It's tucked up. Not that that's the first thing that ever. Of course it's my mind about a ring that you could. You could really put drugs at that. I'm making a jewelry line right now.
Starting point is 00:32:07 Good amount of drugs. I'm making a bunch of like grinder rings and stuff. Really? You can like grind your little fucking earphones. Listen, I have to go through the airport in Utah next week. Would you be a lamb and come with me? I don't think it's a good place for me to meet. And we're at the Frankenstein booth.
Starting point is 00:32:23 I gotta tell you, I love these fucking booths. Thank you. Oh my God. I love my, I love the, oh, look in this. Of course it's got the name right there. Boy, designers, what a fucking scam they have. Like the way they can like put their name right on the ship. What's the scam about putting their name in?
Starting point is 00:32:43 Well, I mean, like other products, that this chair doesn't say, you know. What's the scam about putting their money? Well, I mean, like other products done for this chair, it doesn't say, you know, the chair by Bob, you know, it was, it's very few people get to. But there's a label. Would you look at the label? It'll say, you know. But it's not like prominently displayed like that. I mean, they put it on clothes, you know,
Starting point is 00:32:59 I think Tommy Hilfiger was like the first one to do that. You're really? I could be wrong about that. I could be completely making that. Just a fucking bullshit. He's coming right out of the way. I'm playing shit. Sometimes you thought that did your ad and you're like,
Starting point is 00:33:12 I will call myself on that and say, I think I'm just pulling this out of my ass. Good, good for you. I'm gonna do not just speak in the exit. Right, no, no, no. It also could be true, but yes, I would not bet more than like a hundred dollars on that. In fact, I would bet no dollars.
Starting point is 00:33:27 Should we bet a hundred dollars? No. Not on Tommy over here. But I seem to remember, no, you know what, I'm already wrong. First, Jordanesh, do you remember what Jordanesh Dean Jeans were? No, you're too young. In 1980, like Brook Shields, I think, did the ad. Yes, it was the biggest jeans,
Starting point is 00:33:51 George Ash. And Brook Shields was like, nothing comes between me and my George Ash. I mean, it gave everybody a giant boner in America when Brook Shields, who was this, basically, she was probably, you know, she was a child star. So she could have been like, yeah.
Starting point is 00:34:09 She was. Yeah, she was. Oh, yeah. Oh, yes. And then that sort of controversial- I'm hearing this book. Yes, controversial. It's a sexualized story. Yes. I think I'll tell you about that.
Starting point is 00:34:19 Oh, you know about that. You know about that. I'll tell you about that. Oh, yeah. I've seen all of South Blue Goon. And I've seen a lot of her younger movies, as well as some coverage behind your growing up. And I can only imagine that there are some hard moments in her life also having to act so young.
Starting point is 00:34:40 Yes. Well, I mean, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, can become a baby. No, no, no, no. She's seen it at your seeing times. She seems a pretty happy person. And you know, she went on to do a sitcom. And you know, anyone who can do a sitcom, you know, can't be too depressed. Are you sure? I feel like there's so many comedians
Starting point is 00:34:56 on the darker side of things. I know. Actually, me a lot of you. I'm sorry. I've got to, I've got to lift you up. I know. Believe me, I've anyone with me know about community speaking with the dark cell. I've been working with them for 40 years.
Starting point is 00:35:12 I spent my whole life with them. Okay, so you were in? They're all kinds of comedians, by the way. You should know this. Yeah, oh yeah. They are as varied, some of them are brilliant, some of them are really not, but most of them are pretty smart. Some of them are really not, but most of them are pretty smart.
Starting point is 00:35:27 Some of them are scummy, a lot of them are great. They're just like a cross-section of life, they're just funny. There's just a million different ways to be funny. But yes, I feel like this, I see this in you now. You do have like a tendency to like, you know, make it go toward the sad as it goes to the light. That's what I mentioned earlier,
Starting point is 00:35:54 having and working on retraining the brain. I know, I think club random can do this better for you than that fucking drink you have. I love my therapist, it's so good. I know you do, well that's part of the scam. What? No, I'm not. What's the part of the scam?
Starting point is 00:36:10 Oh, scam, who said scam? I didn't say it was a scam. I'm just saying. You like that word scam? I don't know about you. It's a scam. I don't know why you've been hurt that much. You must be fucking high.
Starting point is 00:36:20 You kids with your drugs. You don't know what you're talking about. You're making things up. Scab, no. Psychiatry is a you're talking about. You're making things up. Scared. No, psychiatry's a lovely profession. I'd love to do it myself. Actually, I would, you know, I always say
Starting point is 00:36:31 when they asked me an interview, it's like, what would you do if you were in a comedian? I, the honest answer is, I'd love to be a psychiatrist, and I think I could be a better one than a lot of them. I mean, they go to school, I don't know, what they fucking learned in psychiatry school. I'm sure there are things, but it's also theoretical. I mean, first of all, the profession's only 100 years old.
Starting point is 00:36:49 I mean, it like a George Freudian. My girl, she Freudian, what does Freudian mean? Well Freud, you know, say when Freud the father of psychology, I mean, the guy who invented the whole business of it. I mean, he's the old school. He thinks most things are sexual. You know, he's he invented well this a few fathers at Carl Jung, Erickson, and you know, I think one of them maybe
Starting point is 00:37:16 actually identified stages like the anal stage from birth to age two is called the anal stage because you're anal you're like shutting in your pants and like how you are treated there, even though it's not in your conscious as you age, whatever happened to you in your anal stage has defined your personality. That would be old school psychiatric thinking. So like if you were like, I guess sitting in your own poop
Starting point is 00:37:42 all the time or something, when people say, now even today when they say, I'm anal, meaning I'm very neat. That's why do you think they use that word anal? It comes from... I'm not fucking with you. I'm telling you, I'm telling you, psychiatry 101. This is crazy, and the cloud.
Starting point is 00:37:59 No, I'm telling you, this is what... I use the term anal all the time. But that's where it comes from Oh, what the it comes from the anal stage zero to two Freud would say even though it's not in your conscious What happened in those years? It's in your unconscious and that has shaped your personality I'm very anal everything is very neat. And how do you feel about this idea? I don't know. I mean, it's very theoretical, of course, but it is.
Starting point is 00:38:32 That is what the father of psychology put forward. And some shrinks today are still Freudians. Other have diverged. It's also pie in the sky. We just are guessing. This is what's going on in the human mind. We don't know. I prefer to just like, my method of being happy is like, don't have bad things happen. Try to keep bad things as far away from me as possible, and then I will be happy. But that's like a very practical approach.
Starting point is 00:39:04 It's not a very practical approach. It's not a very modern approach. And yes, but Freud would say the anal stage. I mean, what was your, let's go to your anal stage? That came out wrong. I'm saying, what happened to you from the ages of 0 to 2? Do you think you were treated well? I was modeling. I started modeling at six weeks old, literally.
Starting point is 00:39:31 You okay? You also got some ash on your inner thigh. I just got the answer I'd expect. What happened to you at six months, Bella? Well, I was modeling and I was. Wow, people say they were born in a trunk. You almost were. They say in volleyball, I was born in a trunk,
Starting point is 00:39:53 meaning I was born into show business. Lights, and I think that's, I keep abilities, okay? So your mother made you a model as a child. Well, my other siblings were in modeling. My sister, Danny, and my brother, and Danny was a first to start modeling. It was a good looking family that they wanted in modeling.
Starting point is 00:40:15 I guess so. And Danny started modeling when she was younger and then Remy and then my mom loves to tell a story that she was at a photo shoot with my brother and she was pregnant with me and she was about to pop. And they were like, oh, when's the baby do? And she was like, oh, October. And they were like, oh, that's great.
Starting point is 00:40:35 That's right around when we're gonna be shooting like our spring and summer shit. We would love to book it. And she was like, you don't know if it's a warrior girl yet. And they're like, it doesn't really matter. You know, a different color hat, blue pink. It's like, you can't really tell at that age. And you're like, wow, my mom's like, she had her first.
Starting point is 00:40:55 Not only can't you tell. I know she was even born. It doesn't even matter because everybody's switching their sexes constantly. No, I'm not kidding about that. I mean, I'm kidding about that. But people do switch sexes a lot more than they used to. You know, there's a lot of trends.
Starting point is 00:41:11 You know, I always see that in the paper about somebody who has switched their sex, which I'm all, that's what makes you, that's what blows your dress up. Bad bitches all the way. Yes. Bad bitches. Bad bitches.
Starting point is 00:41:24 Bad bitches. Bad bitches. Bad bitches. Why are you? Bad bitches. Bad bitches. Be who you are. Yes, claps. Claps. Makes me happy. I mean, I think there's some money to be made
Starting point is 00:41:34 in some sort of exchange with everyone switching. We're like, you know, if you need a penis, take a penis. If you have a penis, give a penis. You know, like if people are becoming like men to women, they're going to cut off their penis. And then there are women transitioning who are going to need a penis. I feel like there was some exchange.
Starting point is 00:41:57 Maybe Bitcoin could be involved. You could, you know, no? I just don't like joking about. Oh, God. I know that you like to, but I... This is where you get funny. Oh, for fuck's sake, that's what I say. That is where you're at.
Starting point is 00:42:18 I'm sorry. You have to be sorry, but I'm not sorry either. I'm not sorry. And that is where your anxiety comes from. There is nothing wrong with joking, nothing wrong about that. It's not everybody is that sensitive, not everybody needs to be that sensitive,
Starting point is 00:42:32 even the people who are doing that. I don't think would need to be offended by that. Everybody is so easily offended. Your kids, you wake up offended. You should get off Twitter, get off social media, and and maybe you wouldn't like have this anxiety. This like because I don't know if you're really offended or you're just worried that you're going to look offended. No, I'm 100% offended. Like when when I think about you know someone trauma and someone walk the videos that I have seen when trauma and someone walked the videos that I have seen that are so fucking bad.
Starting point is 00:43:07 And when people have to worry about walking on the street, just being themselves, that's fucking anxiety. That's why I don't like to joke about it because someone hears it and on a public platform is so bad because you're like kind of little key spreading like this. Oh, ha ha ha ha. And it's not bad because you're like kind of little key spreading like this, like, oh, ha, ha, ha, ha. And it's like, it's not funny when you're like,
Starting point is 00:43:29 face is being beaten in the floor. And you know, you can connect. You can connect, and it's just like that. It's like, bad thing with any other bad thing. I get a lot of bad things. And what? Mel Brooks did a movie called The Producers. And he had a song in it called, Springtime for Hitler.
Starting point is 00:43:45 If I really tried, I could probably connect Hitler with something sad. But we don't, because that's not how we live. That's not how we can live. Because everything can be connected. This comes from everything. Everything can be connected to something sad.
Starting point is 00:44:01 And then you'll be sad all your life. And that's why you are sad. And you don't have to be sad. Not everything has to be said, not everything is said. Everything could be said. We choose whether to make it said or not. You know. You don't think there's something to that story?
Starting point is 00:44:20 I think when it comes to your own drama, like, you know, I make dead dad jokes. Make some people who know me very well, super uncomfortable sometimes. Well, what could be more sent in of them that? You know, it's, but like, for your own trauma, like, you, you, you know, it's, I don't know, I just... But that's your own trauma,
Starting point is 00:44:43 and you're okay with joking, you just said. And do I think it's really funny if someone's joking about Randy and Carl? Give me a dead dead joke. I don't, I don't think that one's really funny. That one's not so funny, and that's another trauma of mine, you know, it's like, it depends on... Only one of it is a comedian, so I'm gonna have
Starting point is 00:45:01 to pull a rank on that, but give me a dead dead joke. Oh no. Come on. No, no, no. You said you me a dead dad joke. Oh, no. Come on. No, no, no. You said you were having a dead dad joke? No, no, no, I just like, you know, it's not like I have a literal dead dad joke. It's more like, you know, conversations are being had and, you know, there's an opportunity to, you know, make a dead dad joke, like, you know, and then, you know, you're like, I mean, you know, not mine. It's the way to the again. I mean, you know, not mine.
Starting point is 00:45:26 It's the way to own it. It's the way to own it. Yeah, when you decide to own your, you know, pain is however you decide to own your pain. But it's like, you're not gonna control me with this pain. I'm gonna own it. It's like the way African Americans took back the N word. It was a horrible slur, and then they said, but we're gonna own it.
Starting point is 00:45:50 And anyway, look, it's good that we can agree to disagree. We don't have to agree on everything. That's what an honest conversation is, you know? But I bet you, like, in 10 years, when I'm dead. And you're hosting the show. You're talking to somebody. I don't know where I'm going with this, but I'm just saying we're all in the process of evolution. Me too.
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Starting point is 00:46:48 episode by episode. So subscribe, share with your fellow true piece and be sure to listen on HBO Max and wherever you get your podcasts. You were talking about the drug portal on your ring. That's the engagement ring. You're getting married. That's going to change you, right? Is that very soon the upcoming nuptials? You know, things with COVID are just... COVID. Oh, stop. You know, you're anxious. Of course you're anxious about COVID. Well, be something anxious about COVID. It's more just like, you know, friends and family flying somewhere, this and that, like things.
Starting point is 00:47:29 COVID is not that bad. COVID is not that bad. COVID, I'm like, it's not going to kill you. I don't know, but I just, you know, it makes things more difficult when you're planning a wedding. It's already hard enough to plan a wedding and planning a wedding in COVID is also very difficult. So we're just chilling.
Starting point is 00:47:45 It was fun for two years to be paranoid, but it's over. I mean, yes, it will always be here, like a million bad things are here. Right, right, right. Lots of health threats are here. I am much more worried about cancer than I am about COVID.
Starting point is 00:48:04 But, you know, we can't get to zero worries or zero deaths or zero anything with COVID or anything bad. So we just have to say, you know, we're gonna... My point more so was that it's hard to plan a wedding. Very hard to plan a wedding in COVID. And anybody that's planning weddings in COVID, my mom just got married and you know, it was just hard to call.
Starting point is 00:48:29 Why is it hard to call? Because everything's open again. You know, more difficult. Like it's just, you know, it's a long list. It's a long list. But let's not talk about the difficulties. Let's talk about the happy art thing. Okay, great.
Starting point is 00:48:40 Happy side. So, so where is it? One happy side. You're the one who mentioned COVID. I said you're getting married. Yeah. I'm so happy. So, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so's why. Now, how did you know he was the one? I think our communication skills are just like, off the charts, you know. I've never had a partner where, when you speak to each other, you both really listen and marinate.
Starting point is 00:49:20 And you don't just, all the time. And also kind of pick on each other about stupid things. Like, I don't even know. Like dumb shit that you get into fights in relationship. And you're like, why are we even talking about this? It's just literally stupid. It sounds like he's secure.
Starting point is 00:49:38 We don't do, yeah. And- That's important in a guy. Yeah, we just have a really beautiful way of seeing each other in the way that he sees me and us always wanting to make each other better in the best way. Like I just, I love that. And he brings out like also like the more healthy sides of me.
Starting point is 00:49:58 And that kind of stuff that I would always want more in a partner. Like if I have my choice, I'll be chilling all day, binge watching shows, fucking never moving, ordering multiple foods, I've been just filled with food, I'm just chilling and I'm bitching, okay, I'm bitching hardcore and I've got a whole watch that someone's telling every day.
Starting point is 00:50:17 What a hit, he stops this. And not that he stops this, but he's also much more like, baby, we should go outside. I'm like, I know we should go outside, he's like, let's he should go outside. I'm like, I know he should go outside. He's like, let's go and walk. I'm like, I know, I'm cute, let's go and walk. But if I get into a show, I'm like, we have to watch the next episode.
Starting point is 00:50:32 I need to know the next episode. Sometimes when shows come out and they're just, I know they're gonna be so good. I'll just wait. I'm like, no, it's better to wait. I'm gonna wait like three, four weeks. I'm not gonna look at socials. I'm not gonna hear nobody tell me
Starting point is 00:50:45 because I need to watch this shit back to back to back. I'm very curious, what are some of the shows that like captivated you like this that you had to watch? Because I have shows like that too. Oh my God, there's been so many great shows, God. California Cation, the sopranos. I love Borenication, boy, going back, I watched every episode of that.
Starting point is 00:51:08 It's such a great fucking show. They've had good company. Yeah. You know who had her first acting job on that? So we crab it. Really? Yes, I remember that. I think it was her first.
Starting point is 00:51:18 The first time I ever saw a little part in California Cation, a showtime sitcom. Wow, I would never have guessed. Sorry, and talented and beautiful. The interesting thing that you said that show. I hadn't thought about that show, but David Duchampini was terrific, right? Yeah, aha.
Starting point is 00:51:34 It was a great character. Hank, you're being... That was great reading, everything. You're just like they really, they knew it was... I mean, it was a... With that one. Yeah, I mean, he got away with being a rake. You know, he got away with being this fucking guy
Starting point is 00:51:48 who, you know, always have to have the plot line of, I really loved my wife. There was also a kiss. There was a fucking other, really another bronze, but I really love her. So that makes me very vulnerable. But really, remember, because he loved her, but he was always getting a lot of tail.
Starting point is 00:52:04 And, you know, it's like- It's sex addict. It's kind of like, you know, musicians get away with singing those songs, like Wellie Nelson and Holyoac Lacey, if you remember this song, you're probably too young, but so all the girls I've loved before- Yes. You do know that song?
Starting point is 00:52:20 Yes, I do. Who came in and out my door and it's like, they're getting away with something. Only musicians can get away with. You know, we're just basically saying, you know, look, you came in and out my door. But, you know. The player culture is very interesting. It's definitely for men is like so celebrated.
Starting point is 00:52:39 Like, the player culture. The player culture is very. And in movies and TV, the difference with movies where you don't get that side with music on us, you really get to know the artist is that when you have the play or culture in movies, it's like, oh, the bad boy, the chocolate, he's bad at seeing his girls.
Starting point is 00:52:56 Oh, but we still like him, and we want him to win, and maybe he'll change. You might change, girls. Hold on. And every girl is like, okay. Right, so isn't this partly the fault of women? Yeah, what So isn't this partly the fault of women? Yeah, what? Isn't this partly the fault of women who like the bad boy and enable him,
Starting point is 00:53:12 you're just imitating a woman? I don't know how the culture of like the idea of this is we love a bad boy. Like I don't know if it happened in society, in movies, if it just happened everywhere and then not just became a thing. Well, it happened with women. No, but I feel like every girl that dates a bad boy
Starting point is 00:53:34 is like, why am I dating this bad boy? But they do. It was a bad boy. And no, it's just like, oh, but maybe he's just bad boy on the exterior and he might be a cushy little teddy bear. And then you're like, no, okay. Mm-hm. He's just bad boy on the exterior, and he might be a cushy little teddy bear. And then you're like, no, okay. He's just a bad boy, but when I met Ben, my fiance, he definitely had bad boy exterior
Starting point is 00:53:53 written all over him. And he's not a bad boy. He's actually a really great boy. I was like, oh, this is kind of, I guess this are the times that girls are like, oh, maybe he will actually be better than what, you know, he's kind of just showing me right now or what I can get from this.
Starting point is 00:54:10 And yeah, with Ben and actually, I'm kind of like, they want, I mean, they just want this guy because they think he's hot. And then, so they're, I think with most women, it's so mental. Like, oh, that's like, but you're kind of, because women it's so mental. Like, oh, that's so hard for us to come.
Starting point is 00:54:25 But you're kind of, because it's so mental. But you're kind of saying that they want this guy, they think it's hot, and then they're going to hope that the mental part comes along. It's kind of like, no, I never, like it's been, I just, I can't, like you can see an attractive man. Then this is me speaking for me, not all women. And I know a lot of girls were just like,
Starting point is 00:54:48 oh my God, he's so hot. Like I want to give his number, I totally fuck him. Okay, but for me, I, you know, it just, you know, really, I'm like, that's a very attractive person, good for you. But I don't, I don't know, I don't usually even steer towards those people as far as I can. I think you are more typical of all women.
Starting point is 00:55:10 I do. I think women are deeper than men, especially with that kind of thing. Men are superficial. They always say men fall in love through their eyes, women through their ears, meaning. Is that what they say? Well, I haven't seen they. They used to come by the Well, that's, they, you know, I haven't seen they. They used to come by the club, but I guess they're doing the things. But, yeah, that's like a saying. Or maybe it's a proverb or, you know, maybe I don't know, whatever
Starting point is 00:55:35 it is, it could be written on a Mayan temple. I have no idea. But it's something that's been around for a long time. And it's kind of true. I mean, it survives because it's kind of true. Men do fall in love through their eyes and women through their ears, which means they are deeper, because it has to go into their brain. We just go right to our balls. And when you go to the ball.
Starting point is 00:55:53 Yeah, the best way, again, I can describe that is back to the coming analogy it takes. The what? You know, the coming analogy for women, like to come for a woman, like to get into that, you know, headspace and that comfortable ability and relax. There's so much shit that it's like,
Starting point is 00:56:09 sometimes you'll be like, even if there's like, something back there and it keeps ticking back and forth, like you're like, I can't come because there's fucking, what's happening over there? Is that a Roomba? Is the Roomba going on? Someone's talking about the fucking Roomba. We gotta get the Roomba out of here.
Starting point is 00:56:22 You're like, it's a song. Yeah, exactly. You're like, it's a song. Yeah, exactly. You're like, oh, hold on. Oh, you know what I'm like to this song. I do not want to come to this song. Do you do when you have, when you have, when you have, when you make whoopee, as they used to say on the Noolewood game,
Starting point is 00:56:37 when you're making whoopee with your fiancee, like, do you have music on? No, no music. No music. No, we don't, no. Not even crimson and glover. I'm like fuck out of party and there's like music or something like, okay, like go into the bathroom
Starting point is 00:56:54 and like get a cookie in or something like, okay. You're just at home. But I think it, no, no. At home, it's like, no. No, we do. You know, a lot's talking and like, you know. But no music. No, we're, it's like, no. No, we do. You know, a lot talking and like, you know. But no, me as a kid. No, we're, it's not dry though. No kidding.
Starting point is 00:57:10 You're like, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Take me, it's dry in that way. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's dry. You're a raw dog of yours. That's funny. But no, yeah, I'm also for me like, I'm much more into, you know, talking and really being
Starting point is 00:57:26 in that moment with each other, not just like, oh, let's fuck this beat kind of, I don't know that we, like, I just don't need that filler. You know, what about just like, what about just spa music? Oh, no, no, definitely not spa music. Oh, lyrics, just a sound of a lake. Come on, something to get my soundtrack. No, I know what you're saying.
Starting point is 00:57:47 Turn on the rain machine. I mean, when I, listen to this, when I was in college, I had one tape. I was so poor. I had a boombox. That was my music system. And I had like one, like, old tapes, not even disc. Just this tape.
Starting point is 00:58:02 Like a cassette tape. And it's like so when like the rare times I had sex with someone, I would put in a cassette that was like my, you know, we didn't even consider you couldn't have sex without music. It was a big part of it. But it was like the same songs. So I'd be like, I like knew like when I heard a certain song, I'm like like oh my god
Starting point is 00:58:25 Purple rain I did have my finger in your ass by now That I ever did that That was just actually so much I can not because you just know certain things are coming up absolutely not Absolutely not Totally taking you at the moment See that's why I don't fucking music on Exactly. And I feel you on that one, girlie, taking you out of the moment. Yeah, taking you out of the moment. And you know, you're saying about the female orgasm, I'll tell you, someone looking back from
Starting point is 00:58:57 60s, that is the number one thing, men have trouble learning, and then hopefully someday learn. But I would say that it's such a mental thing for a woman to have an orgasm. You cannot just fuck it out of them as some men think they can. No, 100%. And I think as a woman too, like it takes a long time to understand your own body
Starting point is 00:59:26 and that's why I'm always talking about sex, springing, just really trying to and stigma around the word sex in general because we all do this, why are we so uncomfortable with it and it's just like falling down the rabbit all over there. So I just think that learning about your body as a woman and it's just like, you know, falling down the rabbit all over there. So I just think that learning about your body as a woman is so important.
Starting point is 00:59:52 And, you know, to each their own on time, how quickly you get there, how quickly you start understanding, like it takes a long time. And some girls like goes like years, like half their lives without knowing how to come. Like it's totally... So you see this is kind of like a mission of yours to like get these women to understand this.
Starting point is 01:00:17 Yes, something you can do for women. And in general, you know, the word sex, like, you know, the idea behind sex, everything that falls under sex and then boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. There's the whole list of things that people need to wrap their minds around it. And people are, finally, things are happening and it's moving forward in a great direction. You have so many females now opening up like vibrator brands and sex toys
Starting point is 01:00:48 and different things. It's so great to see, literally. You mean like Winner's Paul Troll and that kind of stuff? Demi Lovato has been to Cardelevane.
Starting point is 01:01:01 There are so many also more home businesses coming in to play now. Like in general, the market's opening up in a way where people can understand this now and not be so like, oh my God, I can't even believe it. I'm like talking about the sex right now. Like, and you're just like, what is happening? Like, or, oh my God, I can't believe they're talking about sex right now. It's so pat, so inappropriate.
Starting point is 01:01:29 Like that kind of idea. I think we've been talking about sex for a while in America. Yeah, I mean, there was a time when they were, but I think we have broken that barrier a while ago. I mean, I certainly never really held back, but of course, there were restrictions on commercial TV. I was on there for a while. I remember a time when in TV,
Starting point is 01:01:50 you couldn't say the word ass or fart. Fart? You couldn't say fart, you couldn't say ass. You couldn't say sucks. You took fart. You, I mean, you would not believe how- I'm seriously upset right now. I'm like, my mind is like, I'm not happy. Now you can, I mean, how many central, which is not-
Starting point is 01:02:11 How many central is not a pay cable station? How many central, anybody can get it? I think with an antenna. They have those roasts now. They say, everything but maybe I don't think Kant is allowed, but I think everything is shit. Love Kant. Love Kant. You love Kant. God. That's a good one. It's such a great topic. Tell me why you love Kant. I love Kant. I'm not kidding. I'm not wrong again. I love the word.
Starting point is 01:02:45 I love the vagina. You know in English. You know what the vagina is. Oh, you love the vagina. But, um, yeah, at one point I did a Twitter poll and I was like, should I name my dog Conti? Because Cont, like, you can't literally yell across the one or another. Like, Cont, get over here.
Starting point is 01:03:05 No, don't do that. Not gonna happen. Even country, just not really. And then the other one was tampon. And yeah, and because I really wanted to take a word that people felt was like, so like, I'm so offended by it. And you know, call something that's so cute,
Starting point is 01:03:20 like a little dog. And I just thought that was great. Like, you know, now when you think of this word after you've met tampon, you're like, oh, tampon is kind of cute. I'm glad you didn't go with kind of thing. I gotta say. But tampon didn't like her own name.
Starting point is 01:03:34 Like, and then it ended up literally me calling her all the time, tampon, tampi, tampi, tampon. And she just never. So then all of a sudden we came to mom, mommy. And her name is mom, mommy, no. Is this the kind of thing that you would discuss in therapy? Like you would run this by the strength, like should I call my dog, Conti?
Starting point is 01:03:56 No. No. Two percent. That would be so funny. I was spending my therapy and I own debating country or tampon. So that's too trivial? No, yeah. I feel like I'm a waterfall every time I start therapy.
Starting point is 01:04:15 Every time I begin the session, I'm like, oh, I know it's going down, bitch. You in for a ride today. For this one hour, you in it. Get ready, fuck the line. And you think this is because the guy draws this out of you? The girl, yeah. The girl I'm sure she is. She's amazing.
Starting point is 01:04:33 Yeah, she's amazing. She's amazing. She's great. And do I think she draws it out of any? No, no, I feel like I'm on a mission. I'm just on a mission in life. And even in therapy, I'm on a mission. I'm just on a mission in life, and even in therapy, I'm on a mission. I'm trying to fix this shit.
Starting point is 01:04:48 I'm like, yo, I'm paying you this hour, this money cow right now. Like, I need to get this shit out, and you need to help me. Like, let's team up on me right now. Like, how do we get this shit under control? So, I'm like, like literally I'm gearing up. Like, every time I know I have know I have to schedule a therapy session,
Starting point is 01:05:06 which also makes it more difficult when you're like going through a new day. Let's go to the regular weekly thing. No, because with my schedule, like you have to, when you're doing therapy sometimes, like with how I feel, you know, it's like the hour before, I need to kind of gear up for it. Like I can do something, but I don't really want it
Starting point is 01:05:25 to be work related and hours, a lot of hours of my day has worked. So I'm like, and then the hour after, I could be in a bad place for like an hour after. I do a therapy session. Let's say we go like real, real in the mud. It fingers in the mud on it. Then yeah, for like the next hour, I could be like, wow, you know,
Starting point is 01:05:45 and I'm not gonna just be like, oh, let me just smoke and get, you know, have a drink, like let me just get out of this and I'm just not, I don't like to make those habits. So I'm just like sitting in that hour just trying to like, you know, decompress and find my center again. It's like acupuncture.
Starting point is 01:06:09 You don't want to schedule what? I've never done acupuncture, but I really want to guide. It might be a little bit more stick them. Maybe not want to schedule a pickup game right after your acupuncture. Because your fucking body is full the holes or whatever it is. I'm not saying any of these things are wrong. Acupuncture, I think, has merit. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:06:35 I mean, I think the jury's out, but some people believe it. Now, it could just be the placebo effect. You know, I mean, the placebo effect is amazingly powerful Whenever they test a drug they tested with the placebo and very often the placebo does just as well Sun is just better and You know before modern medicine all they had was the placebo effect because Doctors doctors, you know these fucking quacks who did things like put dirt in a wound, they would, you know, do some crazy shit to you leeches or actually they still use leeches,
Starting point is 01:07:15 bad example. Okay. But some crazy shit and then the patient would get better. And the reason I think that happened is because the mind body connection is so much stronger than modern medicine. We'll give it credit for modern medicine. Only matters if we can quantify it on a stat sheet. We can put numbers and decimal points. And that's just not exactly the story. And I think the mind does play an amazingly important role in health. Yeah, and yeah, in health.
Starting point is 01:07:51 I've got to get your mind dry. I've got to get your mind dry. I've got to get your mind dry. I've got to get your mind dry. I've got to get your mind dry. I've got to get your mind dry. I've got to get your mind dry. I've got to get your mind dry.
Starting point is 01:07:59 I've got to get your mind dry. I've got to get your mind dry. I've got to get your mind dry. I've got to get your mind dry. I've got to get your mind dry. I've got to get your mind dry. I've got to get your mind dry. I've got to get your mind dry. I've got to get your mind dry. I've got to get your mind dry. pushing yourself past the point that usually breaks you, and you're like, I'm gonna stop, I have to stop. Like, I have to. And, you know, that point that your brain overrides
Starting point is 01:08:10 all that everything in your body is telling you to stop. But you override that side, that's, you know, the power of the mind. And that, with, is like, the lightest, you know, spectrum of pushing yourself, and then, you know, and believing in something and then it happening, you know, and with placebo effect, you're like, that's a whole other thing, that shit is crazy.
Starting point is 01:08:35 Like, I do. I like, let me go on further and ask you about this. Holistic medicine, classic holistic medicine. And I certainly have steeped myself in it, but I was always honest with the people I talked to who were practicing it, my main doctor mostly, that I don't buy into all of it. I'm sorry, some things I'm jury is out and some things I'm like, oh, that may just be a little too close to religion. But one thing which I think jury out, but I'm willing to entertain it, they would say
Starting point is 01:09:11 that all the emotions are posited in different parts of our body, like sorrow in our lungs, anger in our liver or bile. I think some of the organs of the body are named for, yes, they are a bile. I mean, we talk about that, and that's also an emotion. Flem is a word, phlegmatic, means to be the emotion that is, I guess, encased in flamm. So this idea has been around for a long time, that emotions are encased in Flem. So this idea has been around for a long time that emotions are encased in different parts of our body, which means if you have a lot of sorrow,
Starting point is 01:09:52 that's what makes your lungs vulnerable. And I can see people going, oh, that's quackery and crazy. You know what, they just, my theory always on medicine. They just don't know very much. So don't fucking have that attitude of that shit. Just, you know, like, oh, you're such a quack, we know. You don't know shit.
Starting point is 01:10:16 So everything is on the table. So I don't know. Yeah, everything is on the table. Right. And just the fact that those people don't like give any countenance to the mind, body, connection, it's like, well, already, you know, you're not being bright on this issue to begin with.
Starting point is 01:10:34 Yeah, and even when you have something that you're like, no, this is a fact, you're like, okay, but things every day we have so much more knowledge every fucking day and facts are changing. Yes. Things changed the more we know about that. fucking day, and facts are changing. Yes. Things changed the more we know about that. Absolutely. I totally believe in Dr. Google.
Starting point is 01:10:49 You know, they love to. No, Dr. Google is scary, though. Dr. Google, what? It depends on who's... What? It depends on who... What? It depends on who's looking up Dr. Google, because here's the thing.
Starting point is 01:11:03 If you graduated medical school in 1980, you could still be practicing. And there's really no law that says you have to keep up on the latest. And medicine is always changing. And again, they're only at the infancy of understanding anything. So you could be just way behind.
Starting point is 01:11:22 And of course, I personally have caught doctors not knowing something they should have known because there's lots of information out there. We're not, it's not like the old days where they are the secret priesthood who only they knew the answers. I mean, lawyers love to do the same thing. We'll call something a Latin phrase
Starting point is 01:11:41 and then the plebs will know what we're talking about. Same thing with medicine, except now, we have Dr. Google. If you have a good researcher, I would trust Dr. Google more than some idiot who hasn't kept up what's going on in the world. Dr. Google has the answers. You just have to be clever enough to find.
Starting point is 01:12:01 But have you find the answers exactly? Well, in my case, higher researcher. But most people can't do that. Right. I feel like that is a great use of my money, my age. Higher someone who just researches health. Fuck, yeah. I want to be like,
Starting point is 01:12:18 I'm the dollar for keeping my ass alive. What, 100%? I'm into that. I'll get a few ideas. I don't need weird ideas. You even think of that. Oh, my God. You should start.
Starting point is 01:12:28 You have got to stop. You have got to stop. Stop. You have got to stop. You have a wonderful, charmed life. Your career is on the uphill. You're getting married. These are the good old days, darling.
Starting point is 01:12:41 Yeah. All right. I hope you're not mad at me that we had a tiff, but you know, that's what makes it honest right. Is that okay? Evolution. Yeah. I feel like I know you a little bit and I'm glad I got you. Can I? Yeah. Can you feel the same way? Glad you got to know me a little bit? Yes. Yeah. I definitely feel the same way. Okay. Come on. You only fight with your friend. Climb.
Starting point is 01:13:06 Rindy. Rindy. Rindy. Rindy. This is very fun. Thank you. Thank you very much. I want to come back to the club.
Starting point is 01:13:17 I want to come back to the club. We're going to have a party here with all the other guests we've had. It's going to be off the hook. Oh, fuck yeah. Yeah. with all the other guests we've had, it's gonna be awesome. Oh, fuck yeah.
Starting point is 01:13:27 Yeah.

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