Club Random with Bill Maher - Chuck Liddell | Club Random with Bill Maher

Episode Date: December 24, 2023

Bill and Chuck Liddell on the joy of having children, Bill’s love of Sylvester Stallone, how Chuck became so famous, Conor McGregor’s rise to notoriety, the kind of trash talking that is off limits to Chuck, the glory of Chuck’s many options for dispute resolution, how anger clouds judgement, what it feels like to get punched in the face, the ducks that visit Bill, and Chuck’s natural comic timing. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

I don't know, they always said it's better to have loved and lost than never to have loved at all. When you're going through a breakup, that isn't true. I'm pretty good at it. If you like me, you know, like what I think, you know, like the doors over there. I also know where you live. Yeah. How are you, pal? Good, how are you?

You got a drink? Uh, yeah. Got a bit of syrup. What is that? The energy drink. It's cracking, cracking a can. What is that all caffeine? Yeah, it's like caffeine.

You don't drink liquor? I do, I have my daughter here, so I'm, we call me go off to my kid. Well, so I'm happy to be here. You know, I will bring me started. It's my, it's my, you know, I'm going to Well, sorry. You can't be, you know, I will bring me started. It's my, it's my, you know, I'm going to get you started. No, I'm hopefully not. Some months that you killed me, but. Oh no, no, it's just my, it's my accident.

Oh, I was, I was, I was, I was. And like, she's trying to make out like, always, he's, he's, he's going to go on and those hours and then like, oh, I see. We have a custody of our lives in that, that, that. I'll tell you what. You want to get through, who the kids have never seen drink? This guy.

Really? They've seen her drink. But I just don't drink my kids. I drink gold. We are an athlete. Athletes, you can't really be a drunker, but you're an athlete. I mean.

Oh, okay, don't be wrong. I break my share and I'm at a time. But I'm like, no, we don't need you to draw the child. No, we do not want to see you. But how old is your daughter? 11. Oh, 11.

Yeah. Well, that's an interesting age. Not that I would know. I've never had children or wanted them, but I understand they're very popular. I mean, so many people, even celebrities like yourself, have children. What is it about the kids that I'm not getting?

I mean, I don't know. I don't know what it is, but I mean, I love my kids. I love my kids. I love my kids. I mean, it's a much fewer love than a relationship love, right? Yeah, definitely. But yeah, I mean, I don't know. I don't know.

They, she's great. I know, it's just, but I love it. That's right on the cusp of real trouble time. You know, I have a 22, she was 21 year old. That's 21 year old. As graduate of UCSD next week. How old are you? Oh, 53.

Wow. You're good. Amazing. You can keep that kind of muscle on that edge. Oh, that's a lot of... I mean, it's a lot of... Wonder what it's like going to be like when I'm that age. What? Oh, now you're laughing.

But, you know, I know, like, Stallone did a rocky picture. I think when he was 60. Yeah, I mean, I'm not talking about Rocky's manager. I'm talking about Rocky. Do you know what I'm talking about? Yes. Well, I love Stallone. I just do. about Rocky's manager. I'm talking about Rocky. Do you know what I'm talking about? Yes. Well, I love, so Master's the love.

I just do. I love his movies. I love him. Yeah. I guess I got to catch up with that reality show, but I don't want to risk watching it and not loving him. I've loved him.

I always thought he was great. But 60, and you're in the ring, and I don't think you could have gotten that body without steroids am I wrong? I'm guessing I'm sure I thought he's a probably I mean, but you don't do that No, I never did never did training and they're coming out but I mean I guess some guys just I mean some guys look like they you couldn't get that body normally Yeah, I mean, I guess some guys just, I mean, some guys look like they, you couldn't get that body normally. Yeah, I mean, yeah, we sit on. You sit a lot.

You fight like that. Yeah, I mean, I've got the new, but I always thought, you know, I always thought, if there were Jews in the get up to me, up to my way, I was cutting the get to my way. I walked around at two 15 to 20, about two 15 to 20, since I was 19. So at 35, when I'm still fighting at 205,

I'll cut it down to 205, I've got a strong, I had never been muscled in that weight. No, I know it's never going to be a mussel in that weight. So I never didn't see that. But a lot of the fighters, they're not like the, like kind of McGregor's not like a big guy. He's a small wing glass. Oh, is that what is he? He finds a lot smaller 45s and 55s.

So why did he become so famous? I mean, you know, I don't know that much. This market marketing, um, market marketing, he was exciting. And he won, when he needed to, he won exciting. He would be, he'd meet some guys not guys out when he needed to. I mean, sometimes it's just, and he had a personality and he was, he was pushing it and he got,

I mean, it got huge. You know, he, you know, he'd meet some bad guys. Yeah. He got huge. You know, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he he knocked him out in the first round. I've watched all his fights. And the kid always felt guys out, you know, move around for a little for a round and then he started beating on their legs, beat their legs up and then go after him. And he went right across the ring because he was mad. I mean, Carter got a mad talking trash before the fight. He ran right across the ring, got knocked out. Connor got a mat talking trash before the fight. He ran right across the ring, got knocked out, got caught coming across the ring, it was over.

Who got knocked out? Oh, they, oh they, oh they out. Who's the out? They, bad, he, bad. He, he baited him and he's running across the ring. Basically, he got him so mad, he's ran right across the ring. I mean, he sees an old school like, we tie a guy and they, they tend to, you know,

they, they'll fill you out for a round and they move around and, but they get in there, get in there. I mean, if you're, it's one thing about it. If you're trying to trash, you're trying to, a lot of times, if I taught trash at all before fights, I was trying to get the guys hit. I was trying to get them to do something I wanted them to do. All right. Say things that I wanted them to hear. Right. There's no, there's no, I mean, there's no, and so I, for me, I have this. Has discussions on his mother, perhaps. I never, there's no, and so I am for me, I have dispersions on his mother, perhaps.

I never went there. Never went there. No, I was living in the Olympics. For me, there's a, you have a cold, like the mafia. Oh, no, I, Tito one time, Tito T's, he said, radio show in San Diego, he said, I don't need white tracers, it's like, and I was pissed. Why? Because, well, you said, I don't need white trash bitches like Chuck. And I was pissed.

Why? Because, well, because I don't talk trash about my girlfriend. Oh, your girlfriend? Yeah, I don't want white trash bitches like Chuck. Oh, day. I thought he was calling you white trash. No, I don't care. I don't care.

But, you know, me, I call me anything you want to talk shit all you want about me. Sure, I could see why that would get a guy like you. And it got, and it was just one of those things like, hey man, and I went, and they have, after he won, he wasn't even fighting me. He was fighting Vitor and Velford. He beat Vitor, and I was out the same place after partying, and the promoter knew me,

and he said, look, your group's gonna want to fight you. They're gonna fight you. I can't have it. Can you just, can you just squash us with them? Please? It's no problem, bring them over. He came over and I go, okay, first of all, it's my girlfriend, Apologize.

Well, I'm sorry I was talking about Judith Lewis. I'm like, bro, like what? Like, I guess I, I guess somewhere in some magazine that said I was dating her. I'm like, bro, and she, and all Judith Lewis, she plays them on TV. She's not, wait, trust. I think she's in Scientology.

Yeah, but anyway. And they say you're the one who's doing crazy things. Yeah, yeah. But then I saw her, I said, look, and secondly, I know where you live. You ever do that again? Talked about my family or friends on her interview anywhere. I'll come to your house and beat you in her living room.

We got that. She said, oh, sorry, I'm sorry, man. Okay, look who I'm. But I mean, I check. I'm sure I can't get you a drink. Something to take the edge off. All this talk about beating people up in their own homes. It's a little unnerving here in my home. God, you're fucking me. Yeah, no, I'm a good guy. I got you. It's like different though. It's like, but it must be interesting to go through the world as you do, as a guy who can pull that arrow out of your quiver.

Most of us can't be like, if something bad happens, well, we have to go through channels or call HR or get a lawyer or a complain or say, but you are, you know, one of those people who can go right to, I'm going to come, come to your house and rain punches upon your face. But for me, I'm one of those guys.

I left my last option. I'm going to be honest, I guess. Sounds like I was the first. Well, it's different. Give it one of your professional fighters. It's a different thing to me. It is. Yeah, it's a different thing because we're both professional fighters.

Well, because of course this fight should happen where people can pay and make you rich. I was having it. People says we when we come in a club, you said, I'd be about to know that they're like, hey, Tito's in there. I said, okay, I said, um, you got a couple of million dollars. No, okay, then we're gonna be fine. That's perfect. Exactly. That's, that's, you know, I mean, yes, perfect. Right, you're not that stupid.

Yeah, there's no way I wanna buy for free. Well, maybe he is. Not that I'm trying. Why, they start something. No, he isn't either. Hey, that's gonna be a good job for me when I'm like 89. I can be like a fit.

I can trade on my reputation to be a good debate show by like being the guy in the middle and I have to like get you to cock fighting. I think I can do it very easily. But you already have beef with a lot of these guys, right? No. You have to. Don't you have to hate somebody to punch them in the face? Absolutely not.

Yeah. That is the funniest thing that he would have said on it. Absolutely not. He just enjoyed punching in the face. I think anger clouds judgment. What? Anger clouds judgment. That's what Michael Corleone said in Godfather 3, a highly underrated movie. I really want Francis Ford Coppola to do this show because I feel like I could say to him what he's been, people have denied that Godfather 3 was a great movie too. Maybe not quite as great as the other two, but you love the God. It was still a great movie, right?

Right. And that's what Michael Corley, that's one of his great lines in that was don't get angry. It clouds your judgment. So you're never angry when you're in a fight? No, I call it. I actually call him down my fight. Oh, really? So you don't really hate them? No, I'm just trying to end it. I don't give me wrong, I'm trying to end them when I'm fighting. I'm trying to end them as fast as possible. But as soon as I'm done, I'm hoping they're okay. Right.

I've had probably two fights where I had the guys, they didn't move for a while after I'd come out. And I was actually sitting at the old man, come on man, please move. So what's it feel like? I got beat up once in high school. And I really didn't enjoy it. I got it say, like one guy held me down and the other guy just punched my face.

And I, you know, ever since then, my appetite for seeing face punching, I feel like was diminished. But I get, you know, I have seen you fight. I've certainly watched with great interest the great Oli fights when I was 20 or whatever it was. And he was fighting in the jungle and I was in college. And I mean, it was Zaire. And come on, there was some drama in when he won, you know,

that kind of stuff. But I just, what does it feel like when somebody punches you in the face? Because I remember it being very bad. Well, I mean, for someone like me, like I've been doing so long, I did karate since I was 12. And you know, it's like always, it's just kind of that's like more of like,

okay, he's scoring. And I got to figure out, I'm not picking scored. Not letting him worry about your face. Not really, no. Yeah, you know. I'm not making a score. Not making a score. Where are we about your faith? Not really, no. Yeah, you know, I'm looking at you now. I would never guess about it and know that you were a guy who fought his whole life. You don't have any, like,

well, funny thing, I think I've been split under your like three times. I've been split over here a couple of times. I know guys, you're a great, you have much worse under-eye problems. Yeah. But I feel pretty well. My skin's out of skin. Well, listen, Kylie Jenner sells a lot of concealer, I think. Let me hook you up.

No, it's, the body does heal. I mean, but you must be like, like after a fight, there must be like, after a fight, there must be like pain in a lot of different places. Right? It's the pen. I mean, I fought down in Brazil for, it was 30 minutes, one round. Bearknuckle, we went to four. Bearknuckle?

Bearknuckle, we went to four 30 minutes. Had much relied, strikes the coin were allowed. They're like thin lot, anything. But I mean, the old fight, I mean, I got a couple bruises right here and I had a cut under each eye, small cut under each eye, but other than that, I could have fought the next day. Why? Because you're so good at evading your opponent's punches? Well, just, I, because you ate some of them, but they didn't really just beat me up that bad. But I've also been in a fight, I kicked a guy in the head once and knocked him out in the first round.

And I kicked boxing, and it might, wasn't knocked him out in the first round. And I kicked my ass in that. And this part of my foot swollen up, my time around, oh my God, I'm gonna walk for three weeks. Cause just this big, it was so swollen right here. I've had that happen here playing basketball with my friends when I turned an ankle

and I couldn't walk for three weeks. Are you kidding? That's nothing, considering what you're putting yourself in the ring with. I'm gonna say, my body's held together pretty well. So when I put it through, I mean, I'm about to do a lot more. You're not doing it anymore.

No, I'm not. You would never consider it for any amount of money. Oh, look at you. You took one second to break you down. The work, I mean, I just, I, I mean, just, I, yeah, I haven't got to the year in money and you gave up. I think that's not a good decision because you know what, you couldn't.

It's easy to think, I remember my 50s. It wasn't that long ago. It was the one before this one. And, yeah, you kind of do still think you're 20. Now I know I'm not. No, but I mean, it would have to be a lot of money. I don't think it's, I don't think it's a lot. I'm sorry, it would have to be a lot.

But you can't put a price on your brain. I mean, you don't think you risk. It's, I mean, it's a, it's a vegetable, but when you think about it, I mean, it's not, I mean, you do a lot a bunch of them and you think about it I mean I mean They do a lot more about about yourself with brains training and brain fixing fixing some of the brain So it's been I fixing the brain. I don't think so I don't think brain fixing is like their best suit right now. I don't think they got up to that. I think you know the football players who have CTE,

and I mean, they've been a lot of suicides. There's a lot of people who just are not happy. They're alcoholism, suicide, just angry at the wife all the time. And, you know. Well, they're doing a lot of crazy stuff for that. We had a brain training where you get a uni G for you and I was in one of my thing or whatever was like from fight or flight full like all day long right and after about 20 sessions watching

this thing with a like real day I'm I was back to normal. The EG's back to normal. Maybe he's back to normal. So I mean, they can fix some of that. I mean, I mean, because a lot of it... No, I can tell, talking to you, you're 100%, you have zero mental problems. You're totally focused, tracked, articulate. One thing we've had for a long time is fighters, you get knocked out, you get suspended

for a period of time. You don't you can't fight for us and if you're hurt you can wait. You know you don't just set up it and just hold set up another fight till you're ready to get ready. Right? Where football problem is you gotta be in the next play for a long time, next player. But you gotta be in the next week and they can't lose you for three weeks. They need you for week after week after week. And so they're taking that beating over and over again. But do you miss punching people in the face? It's like if you like it, it feels good.

If you want to keep, I don't know that I miss the whole process of being a fighter, going to go into training camp. The guy, well, go in the training camp, because it was like, you got to shut off the rest of your world. I mean, I got to be like that. I like to be, well, not really shut off, but you're able to, not worry.

I don't worry about it. Just, everyone knew I had one job. I get ready for this fight, get ready for fight. And they got other stresses and other problems. They'll save it. If they can save it, if they can wait, they'll wait so out to the fight to talk to me about it. Right.

You know, so you had that kind of grace. And then you're going to go hang out with the guys, you know, a couple of times a day, and you know, I got the team you got into. It was just, I enjoyed it. I enjoyed training. I like fighting. I like learning. I've been a lot of martial arts when I was a kid.

I got into it. When I first got into it, it really helped me. I was kind of like an 18 year old, like, well, I'm a place kid. And it taught me how to focus. Because I wanted to learn this stuff. And they would make me sit there and do,

like, just five-footer on each side before I could learn something new. And I wanted to learn. So it was just, you know, it's always like trying to figure it, figure things out, learn new things, add new things to my game. What if one of the guys at the training camp was gay? What would happen?

I'm just curious. Like, would they be accepted? Because it's 2023 or would it make it weird? Because the guys are, I know honestly most, I don't, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,'s just to acknowledge reality. Like, it wasn't that long ago, when, especially the macho sports football, you know, was like, you couldn't, you, you would, there weren't some gay players, but they could never come out. Yeah, and I'm sure there's no place that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that,

people, they find them, but I like, that's what I keep trying to tell people, that the, especially, I mean, you're not even that young, but the younger generations, especially, they don't care. They don't care about these things. That the other generations, the older generations did. And that's the problem. And that's the problem. If you can find, I don't care.

If you can help me get ready for it, I don't care. Look, you're not going to make me do anything I don't want to do. So, um, but it would be so awkward if you were fighting a guy and he got an erection. Would it, I mean that, that would be uncomfortable, would it not? If you got him in a clinch, and he, like, and he, you know, it's like you'd tap out. I can't stand this guy's flashly on the slide against my ass crack. Yeah, you know, if we were trading, I'd tap A, but you know, you have to take a break. I'll be over here and take care of yourself.

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be like the baddest dude on the planet status. But like to get punched in the face, I just remember that day, and it was just, and you know, I was so ashamed that I got beat up like this, that I didn't want my father to know. I was thinking like, I was like, okay, you got two guys jumping, like the most guy can't do anything about that. But I was 14. I mean, you're just, yeah. And of course, just the emotional trauma. Luckily, my father worked nights.

So I didn't see him during the week. So my mother covered for me. And then he must have known because he did see him. But my face, you know, you're young, you're face heals quickly, but it was a mess. She kept me out of school for two weeks, told them I had bronchitis. But it was just, I guess it was the trauma of it, you know, just as long as the physical

pain. But you don't have any of that emotional baggage with it. No. No, I thought I'd go, I thought I'd go, I thought I'd go, I thought I'd go, I thought I'd go, I thought I'd go, I thought I'd go, I thought I'd go, I thought I'd go, I thought I'd go, I thought I'd go, I thought I'd go, I thought I'd go, I thought I'd go, I thought I'd go, I thought I'd go, I thought I'd go, I thought I'd go, I thought I'd go, I thought I'd go, I thought I'd go, I thought I'd go, I thought I'd go, I thought I'd go, I thought

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at. I was talking about street fighting. I was like, I'm like, turn on that to one, that was, I mean, I graduated in 88, so you will see, I was first you'll see the 93 Yeah, you really changed the game Yeah, invented the game kind of Yeah, I mean when I was Interested in the pugilistic arts. There was no that it didn't exist

There was no MMA. There was just boxing. Yeah, 93% of the first UFC. And there was a succession of boxers that, you know, I thought were pretty interesting. I mean, nobody was alley, but Holyfield was kind of cool. Yeah. You know, the year, and certainly Mike Tyson was,

you know, super. I love Mike. He sat here. We chopped it up one night. And you know, but George Foreman was a character. There was a train with his son, son, in George Foreman 3, never met. I think he named all his sons, George.

Yeah. I think he named all his sons George, which I am not passing comments on that at all. But yeah, there were characters, and I enjoyed it. But I never can kind of watch it without thinking of that bad day. But you know, I wasn't born, you were born the tough guy. You could, yeah, you should be like the D, you should do like Schwarzenegger, like Hoses did, like the Rock did. Like, well, now you don't want to do that? Oh, no, I'm not allowed to. Oh, sure.

I mean, I mean, we can't go, we can't go on. Yeah, you got the look and you, and people, the popcorn crowd loves to see a guy who can kick ass. It's, it's like one of the most mercen things there is, is like, we like a guy who can kick ass, I mean you got to do it, you can't do it, you know, in the service of a bad cause. Right. You can't do it to protect the Confederacy or you know, Penifilia or you know, you got to do it in the right cause. Right.

Yeah, I know why we can definitely make you into the next action star. And we don't need a special power. You're big and strong. You've got the old school. And now there's nothing in your past that we have to worry about is there? Or what about your political opinions down the middle? For the most part, yes. Like who? Like, I believe, you know, people have their rights in opinion. Most of my, I got friends that have different opinions on a lot of things. Good. Because we can, we can, we can

have, I mean, it's not always pre-cherished. We don't have to agree to not hate each other. Yeah, exactly. On almost anything. And there's a few things, you know, that obviously pedophilia. I can't have any room for that. Or cannibalism, I feel like that should be out of bounds completely.

But you've got to give people a wide leeway in how they see the world differently than you. And which results in their, I tell people, I'll listen to anybody's opinion. I mean, and as long as you have, I'm okay with your opinion as long as you're consistent with your beliefs, but when you're talking about stuff, but I listen to it and you can,

and if I'm pretty sat in my ways with a lot of things, but if you can convince me I'm wrong, I'm happy to change. If you can convince me, if you can, or you might even, a lot of times I get, I wait to understand what you believe. You know, like people, I've had people come and say, oh, okay, now I understand why you think that,

and why you feel that, I don't believe, I don't agree with you, but now I can understand you better. And that's cool too, but I like talking to you about stuff. I know, I get people like, oh, I don't want you to talk to you because I don't want you to, well, I'm gonna ask questions, that's all I ask questions. I want to understand your belief, that's not okay, I'm sorry, then I'll back off.

Yeah, right. Because for me, I'm like, you know, as long as you don't come into my, as long as you don't affect directly affect my circle of people and my friends and family. We're good. So I'm down with all that. Which party do you think is more judgey? I don't, honestly, I couldn't tell you, actually.

I mean, both sides, I listen to both sides. And I listen to different things, and I listen to them, and I'm more conservative. I mean, if I had to pick one, I'm more conservative. But you have to apologize for it. No, I'm not a positive. Yeah, I know. I'm about to tell me, but my thing is, I also don't,

I mean, I look at these as though they'll Trying to make a mount on a moho on this side about some little thing happened. I'm like, okay That's I'm in this folks something or whatever not a big deal. Yeah, I was like, I mean, it's like I don't know. I just bothers me the way people do so You said so bias or the way people do so, you know, you said so biased the way people use statistics. Come on, statistics made me laugh. I was talking about it.

I did a college my first. No, like, no, yeah, I wish one's bother you. No, any, like, the way people use them. Yeah, I did, I would give you an example of a a statistic that is I can't wait. I'm not arguing they you can. Why? Where was this? I was like I need more gun control of paper on gun control back in 80 89 gun control. Let me do a paper for our guests, but then they had right after the teacher turned the head and said, now go do it. Now go do it on the other side.

But I went back to the library to argue the other side. I found they were quoting the same studies, both of them, both sides. They were using the statistics different from the same study. And it was like, as long as I'm like, okay, I mean, so I started, I was like, I mean, or like, or like, my buddy sent me a thing, I was like, I wish I would do the numbers. But he did a first, second, and third president, a year of presidency versus a second, third, and fourth. And I'm like, wait, so why did, why did you use those numbers? Let me go look back. So I looked it all up because there was no other way that his guy came ahead

in that whatever thing it was, the only way it came ahead if it was one, two, three, and two, three, four, any other version of that. And they just, it's like, the people who were arguing against the idea that climate change is real and man-made

and happening and accelerating. They found a year, I think it was 1998, which was an anomaly year. Climate things like climate don't go in a steady line. They go in a line that's squiggly, but it's going in a certain direction. And for a planet Earth, that line is going toward the bad side, constantly going up, but not straight. So they picked this one year, 1998, which is an aberration year, to make all sorts of lies to your point about statistics lying about how we really shouldn't worry about climate

change, because if you go from 1998 to, yeah, because 1998 was not the typical year, but the statistics are not something that's assalable, but it's essentially a lie. It's a lie with statistics. Right. So you follow things. You follow politics closely. Oh, not closely, not really. Why not real closely? Why don't you put yourself in a semi- send me stuff and like one more side from both side. That's good. I get my savings and both sides. Yeah. And I can argue with them on both sides. Because I like I play with my way to base devil's habit. Will you have to get I think to understand? I would tell me. What is this your real belief?

Do you know about it? Have you studied? Do you understand it? Or do you just see some means more? Now you're standing at it. time. Exactly. No, I understand it all. It's funny. Like people, I also get stuff from a zillion people from both sides. And more at times than not, what I have to do if something intrigues me is take it into my office, into my writers' meeting and say to the producers

and the writers who work there, okay, this blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, find out if it's true, because I don't trust anybody. I don't trust them on the left, I don't trust them on the right. And most of the times, what I get back from my staff, who doesn't know how to vet things brilliant they are, is, well, it wasn't wrong what you were sent. It just wasn't the whole story. Right. Because no one wants to tell you the whole story. They just want

to tell you the part that makes you join their team. Right. That's what I fucking hate about America these days. You know, just tell me the whole story. Yeah, tell me the whole story and let me make a decision. What? I mean, they make choice knowing. Your team doesn't have to win everywhere. Yeah, because everyone's team has to win no one's winning. That's really where we are. Yeah, I've been to play. Yeah, because that's the thing too. I've been to people. I've had people ask me about come on, they're really sure or whatever. I said,, okay, just so you know, be careful what you ask me. I'm gonna tell you what I believe,

not what you want me to say. I don't have a, I don't have a, good, we need more people like that. I don't have a, I don't have a, I don't have a, I don't have a, I don't have like a party line. I don't have a, you don't fear someone's gonna beat you up over it.

Yeah, I don't know. See, that's a nice armor to have. But we need more people to do that. And I mean, if you're really sincere about that, because I just have to be, it's not what you have to fear from that is people who will turn on you in different ways because you didn't conform to the one true opinion. You know?

Yeah, and that, for me, I honestly, I'm pretty good at it. And if you don't like me, you know, like what I think, you know, like the doors over there. Right, I don't care. Like I also know where you live. Yeah. Let's not forget the living room thing.

Okay, asshole. Yeah. No, I, like I, I, I, I, my older son, my older son, what he was, he was having a probably social media background. Someone bullying him on the other side of something, saying bad things. Oh, no. Saying bad things on him. I'm like, wait, son, let me, let me take, let me take this for it.

You know that kid? Nope. Does he know you? No. Has he talked to you? No. Do you look up to him for somebody? Does he done something that you find a present? No. Okay. The white of the dude care. And if you do, get off social media. Right. But that's all I got to say. Like if you can't handle that I can people I'm also you want to look at mine? What's the guy tell me they kicked my ass? Do you

think they kicked my ass? No. Do I should think I care? Do I think they could come on my? Whatever. I mean we can see. I mean I'm sure you must attract a lot of that. No I never had that problem. Well, but like, I think Sylvester Stallone once said something about how like, when you're me and you're rocky and you go out in public, everyone wants to fight you. The way like, with me, maybe they want to debate me, you know, if they see me. They want to, or they want to tell me a joke. You know what, people kind of want to mimic what they see you as publicly. You know, I, but I think a lot of times up from the fighters, like they, like sometimes guys

will think I'm a street fighter. He's a boxer, not a street fighter. I can beat him. He's a big football player. I can beat him. Street fighter. I'm known as a heavy-handed brawler, street fighter. You know, I'm, and I, and I, and I, and 10 people see me,

you're a lot bigger than I thought you were. And then, and to be honest, the guys, the guys would do that kind of thing, most of them are fans of mine anyway. And so if I'm just, I work in bars for, I worked in bars for like eight years, nine years. And I knew, I don't have to turn a conversation and then I go and say, I'm not, okay, okay.

Hey, you know, we're making a lot of money now. You should be, you should be in the OC. If you're that tough. And they're like, oh, I know what other friends I told them I could be in the OC. And I'm going to sit back down and drink my beer. So it's a lot like the animal world, isn't it? You know, the way humans, which are we're still animals, The way we posture and fight, you know, I have this pool over here, which I don't use.

And the ducks, like, start... I saw them actually. You saw the ducks, they were like, I was out there, we were talking about them. Oh, okay, so like, yeah, when we first found them, they was like, oh, we gotta get rid of the ducks. They said, no, no, no, no, you know what? I'm going to bequeath this pool to the ducks.

It'll be a lot more interesting. I don't use this pool. I have another pool. Okay? Hate me. So it became the duck pond. It was very idyllic for quite a while. There was just two there, Onyx and Ducky. And then, like, the pool became a battleground

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Check out NeilNaturalPathic.com. Where do you live, Chuck? In Hills. I even live out here. Yeah. Everybody fucking lives out here, don't they? I mean, Chuck? Um, in Hills. I don't even live out here. Yeah. Everybody fucking lives out here, don't they? I mean, everybody, like, why do you need to be out here? You don't.

Like, lots of people, like, I need to be out here because there's like a, you know, I work at a TV studio. That's where the studios are. And Hollywood and Los Angeles, California. Okay. But like so many people who don't have to be here, like, for all the shit L.A. takes, everybody's here.

Well, honestly, I was in San Luis Bistman, I would have stayed there. When I got married, my wife was, her daughter was doing movies. And to move up to slow would have meant movies for daughter. She just, you know, she's doing auditions. She's doing auditions in some movies. She's got some, I think it was all my children and, and she had, she had a couple of cool, like, oh my, movies, she's in, so many characters.

But, you know, for her moving up, up there with me, but I just retired and her moving up there with a man, it was over. We're not gonna try going down LA for auditions. Right. And so, and so I'm okay, yeah, I can, we'll try it out. I start like, we're in the house and I really loved it there and a lot of moving down. Boy, she got out of the movie thing a little bit later, but I actually was okay with that. So you're single now? Well, join the club.

There's a support group here. I'm the president because I never got married. I never quite understood that whole thing. I know it has advantages at some times. I certainly have been in long-term relationships and know the beauty and love that goes there. But I don't know, it's just, you know, when it gets to be, where you ask people, how's it going? And it's like, well, you know, it's work. It's like, okay. I don't want to go to work.

I don't want to go to work. Yeah, I don't want to get to work. Everybody always goes there. What? Related kids are work, you know, like, and they say it, they don't even say it like it's a bad thing. They're just saying it like, you're a good person. If you are willing to do the work,

were you willing to do the work, Chuck you willing to do the work, Chuck? Did you do the work? I was. I tried. You did. I tried. You tried. You did the work for the kids.

I was like, nobody in the relationship. Did you do the work? I tried. But you did. You seem like the kind of guy who, when you go for something, you don't go for it totally.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, it's what it is. I don't know, they always said, it's better to have loved and lost than never to have loved at all. But when you're going through a break up, that isn't true. That's just some bulldozing. I'm 18 or eight years. Now, that's not true.

If an X becomes a great friend, then the pain of the breakup hopefully is worth it for both of you. You know, you see that in the future with your X? No. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha I was actually pretty fun. I didn't think I really said I didn't really like entertaining, but I think I really do. Because I was doing a thing with David Spade, and he put his ear piece in and I went to that open mic. I was just saying whatever he told me to say. David Spade was in your ear. Yeah, and I was saying for the show,

and I was doing it to the crowd, the comedy, the comedy thing. And it was fun. I mean, the people laughing, I have a good time. And I had no idea what he was gonna say. And I said, so they get David Spade's brain and they get to look at you. Yeah, to win, win.

spades brain and they get to look at you. Yeah, so win-win. But yeah, but I actually really kind of enjoyed being up there, even though it wasn't me doing that, I was just kind of, the man was fun. Well, that's a little catch about comedy. You can't do, I mean, you got a, although I guess with modern technology, fucking AI could probably do it. Not at the top level, but AI could definitely do a... Open night night, it's open night night.

Exactly. Or I think they could also do the Cleveland Comedy Club. I'd say that is a lover of Cleveland. I was just in Cleveland, lovely tone. But okay, so we've decided you're going to be a big action star. Nice. Really?

I mean, who would be better at that? I can't even think. Like, yeah. No, I mean, you got the fame, you got the name. You know, you got the rep. You know, you're an OG, but you're not over the hell. Right. I agree with you.

I'm gonna put it in. I'm not mad. Why, I should be your publicist. I don't know, be your agent. What the fuck are they doing for you that I have to come up with all the good ideas? Jesus Christ, Monday, you gotta go in there, you gotta kick some ass with your agent and your publicist.

You should already be Thor, man. And that's your catchphrase. I'm Thor, I'm Thor that I mentioned it's a gay. That's, oh, groundbreaking. Would you do it for the love of a billion dollar franchise? Would you be gay? Gay.

Thor. Because there are gay guys who can fucking kick ass. Would you kiss a guy on camera if it was a little... Oh, my God. They're drawing lines somewhere. That's cool. All right, we can see GI that in. We can see GI, the dick, we can see GI everything.

Yeah, I see that in your future. But what? Okay, so, see you're a divorce dad. You like that guy and every, every fucking movie on streaming. And what do you drive, Chuck? Let's complete this picture. A divorce dad who drives a... And what do you drive, Chuck? Let's complete this picture. A divorced dad who drives a... Well, actually, I still have my age two from the UFC.

What's that, a Hummer? Hey, Hummer, you drive a Hummer. No, I have to drive a... Well, you drive that, that's great though. Fun kids. I mean, come on. I'm like, oh, I said, my course, I'm gonna go against the brand. What do you mean, come on. I'm gonna go against it. Of course, I'm gonna go against the brand.

What do you mean a Subaru? What do you mean? Come on. Okay, so a divorce dad, two kids, I love this for sitcom also. For a former MMA champion. And, you know, got to make this. Everyone laughed like my daughter's competitive cheer.

I'd be like you're a cheer dad too. Like what? Cheer dad. What's that? Well I'm just supporting my daughter and does competitive cheer so I'm there watching her. So I was saying dad. Maybe the name for this? A cheer dad?

I get you're cheer dad too. I'm like yeah yeah that's my daughter's cheers. Oh, God. I mean, there's a reporter everybody who think. So that's a real term cheer dad. Yeah. And you're one of them. Yeah. All right. Well, you definitely should not fight again, because your balls have shrunk a little just from being called a cheer dad.

Okay. So. But it's great that you're... But I'm done with it. I'm done with it. I'm done with it. Yeah, I'm done with it. Yeah, I'm done with you're, but I'm telling you, I'm saying she'd do it. Yeah, I'm doing it. Yeah, I'm telling you. I said that like I have kids, but I mean, I know that again,

and I see this from the outside, I don't understand it, but I see it. I would be so nervous to have kids because what if they're fuck ups? And it didn't not, it wouldn't necessarily be your fault. Oh, I agree. You know, sometimes fate just

as I'm being like, but you're, but I guess you're, but I also would say 90% of the time, I do think a parent can shape a kid into a decent human being. Yeah, I agree. Yeah. I agree. So those are good odds. Yeah. If you do it right, I imagine you are fairly strict. I'm fairly. I'm reasonable.

I mean, I was very, my mom raised me like basically to think for yourself. And I was allowed to actually argue with respect to allowed to argue with her. I could try to prove my point. I didn't win very often, but if I could put a good argument together and convince her that maybe it's okay,

she'd give it every once in a while. But I'll tell you something, my father was allowed to do to me that you are not allowed to do, which is spank, especially you. I'm not, I'm not like, I've never had to. I know, and you know what would, never would want to charge. I don't want to.

No, because they would say, you know, this guy, of all the people who shouldn't be hitting, you know. Well, you know, I always told my grandpa, I remember when my father, actually, my father, I mean, when we moved him, like, grandparents, when I was eight, and I remember, he spanked me when I was 12. And, you know, I, you know, I, I'm crying because I had to

sweet stuff spank me. He was like, I don't care. I had the point he could hurt me. Um, and he, he always sees me as a girl. He'd be more of a chill. I went out and then he was sitting there crying at the table. I was like, oh, okay, I can't do that again. I was like, that's what got me, not, not, it made me.

Did he felt so bad about it? Yeah, he felt so bad about it, but he felt like he had to do something to teach me a lesson. And later on, when you showed up in his living room, no. You always win in the end. Yeah. No. That's that's very sweet. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. He really? Yeah. I mean, he did it because he felt that was the right thing to do to teach you the lesson at that time. That's why I am grateful for the spankings I got. They were they were few and far between. But when they I knew I deserved everyone I got. Yeah, but when they happened, it made the point that this where there was

a way to go. There was a place to go that a parent was able to say to a child, well, this is like on Defcon 2 level, okay? You know, Defcon 1 is we kick you out of the house. But, you know, so you got the message and yeah, you know, I you got the message and, you know, I, yeah, I, I, I, I told my, my, well, that's when we, for the first matter, she was like grabbed a matter, darn, grabbed her one time and I'm like, look, hey, I'm not going to tell you how to raise your kid, but if you want to spank her, whatever, that's fine, but just don't hit her on anger. Right. If you hit her, hit her for a purpose, if you want to spank it, you know, because you need to do it on anger because you're going to hurt her by mistake.

And I know it's a kill you. It's a hurt. And I know people will hate me for saying this because they hate sometimes when I sort of delineate the differences between generations. But I'm sorry, it's what I truly believe. The reason why I'm okay with my father's banking me is because I trust that generation. That was the World War II generation. My parents.

Right, okay. World War II. Yeah. They were good parents, you know. People were just, they just had a lot more boundaries and a lot more responsibility back then. And so I trust them generally to be able to handle spanking a kid. I don't trust that of today's generations because I think like you say, there would be

too much in anger or just stupid, just, they just got people, just got fucking stupider. So I just don't trust them to do it today, which is a sad comment. Yeah, no, but no, I'm sure you're ever in the idiocracy. Idiocracy? The movie? The best. I'm too like sometimes I'm too like her. So funny, you make so funny, you make will be listening to this. So I just got a new car, right? Okay, it's electric. And of course, everything is so high tech and it has this console in the middle

and it asks for your name. And I didn't want to have my real name in there because when you turn it on, it'll say, hello, Bill Mar. And I'm like, no, I don't want, you know, the ballet guy's gonna hear this. So I remember in the movie, Idiocracy, remember they're trying to identify me

is going through that machine, and the robot voice is like, what is the name? And he's like, well, I'm not sure if you want the name that I'm using, not sure. I'm pretty sure, not sure. That's his name. So I put, so my name in my car is not sure. That's awesome.

So when I turn on the car, it's like, hello, not sure. That's awesome. That's so good. That's funny. I love that movie. So, okay, so in the sitcom I'm putting you in now, you're a divorced dad with two kids. And you ride around in a hammer

I like the hammer better and I think that you are a trump voter in a liberal town and You wear the mega hat once at a softball game with your daughter and that's the pilot Now it's no succession. But I think CBS might bite. What do you do now that you, that's a good question.

What do you do now that you're single? Like so what's your social life like? Well, I'm a child. I'm single now, so. You're, so you have an girlfriend already? Yeah. And she, she'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm seeing everyone else. So you're, so you have a girlfriend or yeah, and she, she, she's gonna go from that, I just, I say, I'll way back. Way back. Yeah. Oh, see, you know, it's funny, but I hear a lot of relationships like that. I mean, from people I know, I just feel like I've heard

that a lot. Like, oh, yeah, I'm with somebody. Oh really? How'd you meet? Well, I knew him a long time ago. And it's like, people have this connection. And then it's just the timing is wrong. Right. And one of them had to, one of them maybe had to mature. Wink, wink. Yeah, that's the one with the penis, usually.

Exactly. Yeah. Well, that's great. So you have a comfort level and a We're cool. Oh So where do you think that's gonna go? Would you get married again or are you? You like that? Yeah, that would. Yeah, what?

Yeah Kid Rock has a song about being 50 and Kid Rock has a song about being 50 and something like I used to get blown on the tour bus. Now I'm more likely to be a Toys or Rock. That's funny. That's kind of what I never got, you know, about going down that path in life, like that path that people have. Oh, hey, we like each other. And then we move to the next step. It's like, oh, well, now we're kind of getting exclusive. And oh, we've been together a couple of years. I mean, we probably should get engaged. And then, okay, we're getting engaged. and we means we're going to get married. We should set a date.

You know, there's this path. You're just, I feel like I'm walking down death row, you know. And it's just, you know, okay, so then we're going to get married and then we're going to children. And, you know, there's just this path that it just, it always seemed to me like a corridor, you know, that I was walking down. And I just wanted to be able to have a, it was like the thing when you walk onto the plane. I want to escape through it off of it, but it didn't exist.

Yeah. But... That's an interesting way to look at it. I think I did it for a long time. I was almost... Rain loves it. I loved to hear it before. We had such a fun time. Almost. Rain loves it. A lot of torture. Before we had such a fun time, you took a picture of them.

Yeah. It's a great guy. But he was like so many people who've sat in that chair. They tell me that there were a therapy. You know, and he was saying, how much, you know, I totally believe him. How much his therapist helped him and he said, for 21 years. And I said, 21 years, isn't that proof it's not working? Which may be wrong, because he said,

no, it's proof it is working, because I'm so happy and like he was genuinely happy in his life. But I've never really gotten the whole therapy saying I had to stuck my toe in a couple of times and I was like I couldn't, I was talking almost, I couldn't stop laughing out loud at what was going on in there. And maybe that was just me, but you don't seem like you're a therapy guy. I've been to, I've been to marriage, calc, for a little bit. That's what mine was.

But we went to a relationship council. Yeah, and it was pretty much I mean, I think she was going there to try to get him to change me I had to be that guy but You know, I was you know, I'm not you know who I am. You know who I was, you know. I was like, I don't know where, and I'm not, I'm not, I'm poor, I was eight, I was 48, baby, you know what, time 40, I'm not, you know, I'm not changing anytime soon. I've been this way for 40 years, I'm pretty much stuck.

I never worked so hard to like, try open my mind, to keep an open mind about something because I really said if I'm gonna do this I'm not gonna like do it Like okay, I'm gonna really really try as hard as I can To think this because it could be something and and therapy truly has helped millions and billions of people. I'm sure. But I found it ridiculous. And I really tried not to.

I really wanted it not to be ridiculous, but I just found it to be ridiculous. And only in the sense that like, we're coming up against forces of nature that are so much deeper than just what can happen in a therapy session. And you can change them. You can't change them. You can't change the nature of men and women and what works.

What works? Woody Allen had that movie. Whatever works. And I know a lot of people are snickering like, oh, he's wanted to talk about relationships. Well, don't get me started on Woody Allen and what an injustice and how unamerican it is to have made him a pariah for something two investigations proved to their proof. You know, I mean, we don't know for sure what the truth is, but for the investigation to say he was innocent.

He did not molest his five-year-old daughter. People love to do that with famous people. It's like what happened to innocent until proven guilty. Exactly. Oh, I know. Do you fear cancel culture? Do you, uh, have you been, have they tried to get, I mean, how can they get ready you? I mean, I don't, I mean, I'm, I don't, I don't know. It's kind of, I don't, you definitely don't belong to the left. So they can't excommunicate you because you don't, you don't live there. Yeah, yeah.

And I'm, but I'm okay with people. I mean, I'm, I'm, I'm there. Yeah, yeah. But I'm okay with people. I'm fine. I mean, we can leave me friends. You know, a lot of the stuff that they're going to, you know, going after so far one way, is like, no one cares. Like, no one cares. You had drag shows. Yeah, exactly.

No one cares. I don't know anyone that does. People don't care about drag shows. They do care, I think, legitimately, about bringing five-year-olds to them. Yes, I understand. And I saw some of the videos, some kid was throwing a dollar at.

If I took my son, who's not, to a peaky bar. Right. I get super-wise invitation. You get it. Yeah, right. And I have the $1 at a stripper at a peaky bar. I get super rising to the patient. You have right. You know, right. It has the $1 and a stripper at a party bar. I get, but I can take them to the drag show

and I'm those dollars at this dude. I mean, that's certainly trans. Some of them are just, right. And it's like, drag, it's like, can't we just, I just always wanna say, can we just go back to like five years ago? I'm not trying to turn the clock all the way back. I'm just saying like, do we have to get children involved

in our political squabbles about sex and gender and race? Can't they just have age five to ten to think about bullshit, not their dick yet, and not the color of their skin, and all this kind of... Do we have to force this? And that's what we did five years ago. So I go back to... I mean, I'm gonna give my school school a talk about BLM. But I was trying to explain what was going on to my kid. Someone had a job, why don't you explain it?

So I'm gonna kind of try to explain. So I was telling my daughter, okay, this friend is black. This friend's black. And this friend's your other friend that's black. I was pointing out some of their friends were black. And then I went and they go, I beat Dad.

Dad. Oh, you're wrong. He's brown. And I went, I went, you know what, I'm good, we're good. I'm done talking. It's a color that I'm looking for. Okay, it's a real kit. It's a color.

Well, why don't you have to teach him, why don't you have to teach him, we're off. You can't be done. You gotta stay in that fight because it's not that hard. But I admit, I agree rather, it's just annoying. But that's where that generation is. They just might, like philosophical view of it, is they romanticize the idea of the social justice warrior.

To them that's the highest type of warrior, a certain type of kid. So they want to have all these causes. But a lot of the heavy lifting was done by other generations, but since they weren't alive for that, it didn't happen. So when they say things are worse than they've ever been, that's because they're things are worse than they've ever been in their life. And they're 12. So they're going to be like race obsessed. And I mean, I'm not a parent, but if I was, I would make sure the kids knew I was an old school liberal on race before I also then interjected the idea,

but there was also a lot of nuttiness on the other side going on now. Race obsessed is different than race is a number one issue in America, and we need to always be aware of it and work on it. That's different than just everything is race. You know, if Angela Bassett doesn't win the Oscar, it's not a racial thing. Like, in 2023, are you kidding?

They're trying more to give it to people of power. Right, 100%. That's okay. So, you know, to make a racial issue of everything, to be against that does not make me a conservative. I don't know where you point yourself, you say you're in the middle, that's great. I think even if we didn't agree on everything,

yeah, I mean, I mean, people have, I mean, I'm being conservative. I mean, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm bi-fiscally conservative more than, and I'm, I'm, like, I believe in, living that life. You're a big badass bruiser of courtship conservative. What the fuck, and I think you're doing, like sitting around with a lute like,

fuckin', but no, yes. Yeah, yeah, but I... That's everybody has to sort of accept that they live in a country where half the people are nothing like you. You get there like from a different planet, but they're not from a different planet, they're not even from a different country.

And actually, like again, the progress thing, I just find it so interesting that we don't like stop and memorialize, okay, it wasn't that long ago when the sports, especially the tough guy sports, would not entertain these ideas about gainists or trends, and now it's just completely different. And it's funny that what used to be the liberal position on women in sports, which was

Title IX. They passed Title IX in 1972, and it said every college and university has to have a program that gives equal resources to the women in sports. And yet because of that, they eliminated a lot of male sports. Right. So they would have- Well, it changed my- Yeah. Because you had to- they had to keep football, which had the most- Right.

Because it makes money. Right. You know, it makes the most money. Anyway, but that was what- that's what the old school was that women should have. Now there are new and that they should be able to, they're trans. People's memories. Well, that's my point. I was ridiculous.

Now, they've completely undone what liberals did with Title IX. Had its flaws, yes, but it was a great start that women's sports are equal Equal but not the same And the idea that you put some of these obviously male athletes. I mean, I think that the swimmer was still had a penis and was still dating women Which was I think what I would define as a dude Right, okay, it was like some like it hot. They define as a dude. Right. Okay. It was like something like at a hot. They just put a wig on, jumped in the pool.

You know, I mean, come on. So, again, I mean, it's not fair. I mean, it's not fair. It's not fair. It's not competitive. And it's fair. I mean, when they say they, when it was in place,

especially in sports like that, you can look at the time. If you was competing in a male side of that, even if they're close. And this is the thing, again, that makes people into Trump voters, is that there is this level of being divorced from the reality of life, like men are pregnant and women

are just as good at sports, that strikes a lot of people as like, yeah, I don't know what your exact policy is on this or this. I just know that people who think like that I can't trust them with leadership. That's a big problem. There is an article in the Atlantic, which is a very esteemed magazine, and the title of it was, Separating Sports by Sex, doesn't make sense. Of course, it does make sense, for obvious reasons. And then it went on to, I mean, a whole article they printed, where if I read you some of these quotes, you'd be like, it's LOL funny, how divorced from reality. And as if it was even an insult to say that women are not as physically strong.

But I tell you, I come by really liberal friends of the funny thing about them is they will not denounce anything on the blue side of the party. Yeah, that is it. Not one. Not one. Not one thing. But you can't. But I mean, you don't think about the racers. I don't know one of my conservative friends

that doesn't have a proper the racers. Like it. Exactly. I mean, I don't know one of them. But they'll do that. They'll do that. They'll tell you, like I said, I don't like that guy. I know they're more than happy to do that. But I mean, if you can't even, look, this is not, you know, it's not you and I, because of that, I know it look okay. We,

I know you, we have, we have, I know you're not okay with that. Why can't you say you're not okay with it? Because it's, because it's a liberal policy, a policy point. I mean, it's like, And because it's a little policy point, I mean, it's like, like, hey, you just speak up, speak your mind. Because that's not your mind. And also just assess everything by the merit of it as an idea. And not by who said it, what race they were when they said it, you know, just what's true? And what's not true?

Instead of just like that can't be true because you're on the other side. Because you're on the other team. We find out, yeah, it'll be fine. Something, you know, they say they say what they, you know, I was going to say, you exchange your phone with someone else at a different and just see the newsfeed you get. I don't cover that. Exactly. Because it's like that, and exchange your phone with someone else that's a different thing, to see the news feeds you get. I don't care for a second. Because it's like that,

what you say you get from those times. That's social, yeah, because people, I'm friends with them, it's good. So, but social development, they're talking about how people, how the social media, like it kind of, it kind of feeds you down those rabbit holes of stuff that reinforces what you've

been. Of course. That's what I'm saying. But I can read, like for me, and I start reading a lot of it when I go on off. I can tell that they're just trying to show bias one way. I don't have time to do this because I'm not a actual research. We had three more right. Of course, to figure out if this is right. It's what I'm saying. I need a professional staff. Not everyone has that.

To actually vet this and find out, oh, okay, that part of what you said is true. This is misleading. Here's the other argument. Some of that is bullshit also and some is true. And like, but who has that? Yeah, 100%. It's all of you know, and I can say, I like every once, because every once when I'll go through with a buddy,

like that sends me some crazy name. I'm okay, okay, hold on. Let me get you, let me look, let me research this for a minute. It's so gross. And I'm gonna send you what this is like, really? This is, yeah, it's kind of true, but it's not, it's not representative of what the answer really should be, or it could be this maybe a little inside politics and don't feel bad to say I didn't follow this, but there was a commission appointed to look into the FBI's investigation of Trump for being connected with Russia. Right.

I don't know about that. Well, the Durham, John Durham did it. You heard about that. I didn't hear the numbers. I don't know. Okay. But this is the kind of thing we're talking about. So, John Durham, he's this prosecutor, seems to be a little leaning right.

He was looked into not into Trump's connections with Russia, which I won't bore everyone, but there are some very obvious connections with Russia, like his campaign manager shared information with the Russian Secret Service. Okay, little things like that, but we won't go through that. That was five years ago. So the commission comes out and John Durham, I mean, it took like four years looking at it. And again, they're looking into the investigation of the investigation. And, you know, the conservative papers were all like just as we said, just as we thought, this was a hoax and they set them up.

But when you look at what the facts were, this was a four-year investigation, two very minor indictments of people peripherally involved with the Clinton campaign that were both acquittals, I believe, or one was like, I think it was guilty, but it was guilty of like lying to the FBI, not guilty of the actual crime they were looking for. So like, nobody like, this is like,

you're talking about statistics before. This is like, to me, okay, this is the statistic. This is the actual thing. After four years, the guy didn't bring any cases except two little ones that he only had one. So for those of you who are saying, this probes, Trump was set up. I can see you're lying. And the other side does it too. There were things that the FBI should have done differently and blah, blah and they'd downplay that. But basically, if I have to find a ref, I like to find something that's in actual facts,

like he only brought two cases. And they did not succeed in front of Jerry's. Now people are stupid, maybe the Jerry's were, but it basically looks like you got nothing. The FBI was looking into Trump for very good reasons, because he was fucking connected with Russia in a million ways. He didn't act, there's no smoking gun, reflued to the Kremlin, peed in a bed with a hooker,

and then somebody said, okay, and here's the information on Hillary. But he encouraged it publicly. Russia, if you're listening, I hope you... I think it's on Hillary in France trying to do it. Hillary did not encourage China to do it. Actually, I did a bit... It was on a...

It was on a... It was on a thing. I think she was being fun, trying to be funny. On an interview. On an interview. I did a a camera. I think she was being fun, trying to be funny. I did an interview. I did a bit that she should do that. She had. And about a year later, then she said it.

Oh, that was a little... Possibly because of someone had... Hipped her right out. She watches my show, but someone probably hipped her to that. Maybe it's a coincidence, but yes. I'm not saying that. I'm not saying it's true. No, no, no, no, that's an interview. I just thought. It's from her scene. You're right. And that was a coincidence, but yes. No, I'm not saying that. I'm not saying that. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, I didn't follow much, like the Durham,

Portland, or whatever. Well, I don't have enough information, are you it? Well, I'm telling you, that's important information that Donald Trump is a guy who is not above taking help from people who nobody ever used help from in elections, we fought like dogs for elections, but we had one rule. Don't bring any outside ringers in.

You know, I used to play in this softball league in here called the Broadway Show League. It was the comedians and the people in Broadway shows, not Muslim men like you, okay, actors, singers, dancers, comics. And, you know, so we play against each other. It was fun. And sometimes someone would bring in a ringer.

Somebody you're like, where is this guy? What show is he in? Because he looks like X Major Lear. And sure enough, it was like some ringer. And that was considered a great faux pas. You should not bring it a rigger. And I would say the same thing about Donald Trump in Russia. Don't bring it a rigger.

Fight here in America against your American foe and don't take help from the people who do not have our best interest at heart, who are enemies. And it's hard for me to reconcile how Patriot-loving Americans can abide that in their big hero, Donald Trump. Yeah, I think I said I didn't fall any of that so. Why? You even threatened to write you out that?

No, I didn't get that back then. I don't know why. Who would you, if you could pick anybody to be president, who would it be? Yeah, you know, that's an interesting question. I don't know why. Who would you if you could pick anybody to be president? Who would it be? Yeah, you know, that's an interesting question. I don't know. I don't know. I mean, I always said I, I want to have an option to something, you know. You what? I want an option that's not the lesser of two mediums. But you know, nobody, were you coming up who like really Um, but is nobody, were you coming up who like really stood out as somebody who had a lot of integrity and stood by you? I mean, I came up on my train, my trainer with, you know, like I just came up, you know,

a lot of people I like, but I mean, I don't know, they need to be interested in me impressive. No, but you're saying you did it all yourself. You've made it. Well, I mean, it was no like mentor. Not really. I mean, I've been training my coach, my trainer helped me, but I was like, he was my striking coach and helped me and I kind of made my entrance and helping and I kind of put it all together. I kind of built it together myself. Put it together as a team and I mean I'm trying, you know, he helped me but the

bottom touch on a lot of things, I might, you did some coach, you know, he helped me, you know, become a better fighter and a lot of people along the way. I mean, you know, become a better fighter and a lot of people, a lot of people on the way. That, I don't know. You know, you put it all, it's all kind of just comes down to, it comes down to you. Yeah, yeah. That's cool. It's not, I mean, it's just not that way for everybody, but I totally get it. I think it's part of being part of a sport

that was just, just coming up to like it was just beginning, beginning it was sport, you know, and I was like, oh, you were ahead of the game. Yeah, so, so it, yeah, I think it really helped. Like, when I came into it, like, okay, you had, it's kind of like three elements, right? You have, uh, striking, you know,

some kind of striking, you have wrestling from going, yeah, trying to, and then, you do it to ground stuff, right? Ground fighting. And I of wrestling from going. Yeah, and then you did some ground stuff right ground fighting And I came when I came in for I had to ride wrestling background on a striker And I had to learn one so I most guys were coming in with one. They're really good at and I learned the other two So I have a little bit of an advantage that I was eight that I had two that was pretty good at right and I had to learn a third Right, just had to learn one. So Give me a little bit of vent as that way in the beginning.

So if you were in a bar and a fight broke out and you had to be in it, which of these just... I prefer striking. Always have. Striking. We have punching. Punching people in the face. Punching people in the face.

Punching people in the face. I knew it. I knew it. I was kicking it. Yeah. Everything comes back to punching people in the face. I knew it. I knew it. Everything comes back to punching people in the face. I wish I could have had a life, or I was able to punch people in the face. I bet you it's really satisfying in a certain way, a bunch as we hate to say it. But as long as you know, you're not really killing them, and sometimes they've been obnoxious and they deserve it, you know. And they're young, it's going to heal. Again, your face looks perfectly fine. You're ready for your close-up as the next action star. All we got to do now is the Mohawk deal breaker. I want to use my thing, but I've changed it for movies. Oh, you have? I'm pretty much a tasteful of water, gross amount,

but this is a long since ban. It's decided. You will be the first gay superhero. It's perfect because again, you're so macho. Like you're the most macho guy there is. So like of all the people in the world, who can afford to like then be a gay superhero. Again, just a character.

And we'll cut out the kissing. Or we'll see, we'll CGI it. Alright, I can be the producer. I'm not sure. Okay, thank you. I'm a part. It's right, I was a sure. Okay. Thank you. I'm fine. It's right. I was the one who brought it.

Climb. Climb. Climb. You are a good sport, Chuck. Climb. Climb.