Club Random with Bill Maher - Fred Durst | Club Random with Bill Maher

Episode Date: April 10, 2023

Bill Maher and Fred Durst on: the truth behind the founding of Limp Bizkit, how Fred became an accidental rock star, the great irony of Fred’s bullies being his biggest fans, Fred’s theory on getting energy from a space vacuum, whether or not spirituality makes you live longer, the time Mick Jagger picked up a girl with just a look, and the very definition of hypocrisy. 

I was just in San Francisco over the weekend and played there in a while. It was a little nervous because like I was like, wow, like this is like woke central and woke is the enemy, an opposite of political correctness, you know, and truth and barrier. But they were awesome. So I was thrilled that even in San Francisco, but you actually looked the same as you always did. You preserved yourself very well. So I don't know what you're doing for your health,

but it's working. I'm quite the metrics, actual. I like the products, man. I came from a farm in North Carolina and I got out here to L.A. You know, with Limpisgett and I ended up at a Fred Seagal going, what's all this stuff? You know, and they sell me a bunch of stuff for my face.

And next thing, you know, I got into the concept. Yeah, I don't judge that. I'm not sure it's the product. I don't want to swap skin care products with you. You know what? I go that far, but you know. You never know. Never say never.

Yeah, you rock stars, you roll the same. Cause always about crazy carrying on and, you know, okay, so you have your drink, friend? Yeah, I'm having a little repassada, what do you have in? What's that? It's a, to me, a much smoother version of tequila, a little more caramelizing. Oh, right.

Yeah. Oh, this rot got saloon whiskey. I don't know what. Oh, right. Yeah. Oh, this rot got saloon whiskey. I don't know what whiskey. No, no, it's it's the same thing. It's the killer. Oh, okay. I don't know how tequila got so popular. Paul Mitchell. What? He has patrone. That's Paul Mitchell. The hair guy is tequila from what I heard. Was that like the first? No, I'm just I think it's the first one. They got very popular that wasn't the yellow Quaribo that was you know it was my boy

Sammy Heycar who really did the first Tequila I've never tried his tequila first, uh, tequila. I've never tried his tequila. Well, I'm sure it's great. And I love his vibe, though. That's for sure. He's a fun guy. He seems like he's awesome.

Is that who your friends are, Fred, are the rock stars? Not really. Do, uh, hang out with regular people, or is it just the rock and roll lifestyle with, uh, groupies and, uh,ies and the, you know, drugs and all hours of the night and blasting the music and the, yeah, yeah, yeah, lyrics and the long hair. Is that the entire lifestyle or do you ever come down to earth with those normal people? How normal are you, friends?

I don't even know if I want to expose that, you know. Come on. It's just us. No one's listening. Just us. No one's listening. We know each other minutes. We ran into each other a couple of times at mid-summer night. We said hello a couple of times. Oh, we can play, boy, man.

That's right. You were a denizen of the playboy, man. Yeah, we're playing backgammon. And so on Sundays, play backgammon. Yeah, that's the appeal of playboy,. That's right. You were a denizen of the playboy mansion. Yeah, we'll play in backgammon So on Sundays play backgammon. Yeah, that's the appeal of playboy the backgammon That's kind of that kind of got me into the the place a little that I could play a little and Mid-Summer's nice dreams are the best parties of all time Is it that's always getting these guys to try to go to the playboy mansion? Let's be the backgammon. got to be back, Amon. I love playing back Amon though, beyond.

So, yeah, that seems like another life going to the Playboy match, and I must tell you, that seems like a completely different life. And one I'm not pining for. Yeah, I don't miss it that much, but I've had a few good times there just. Well, yeah, we were younger and... It's just fun. There's those parties where a lot of fun. Yeah. Well, yeah, we were younger and. It's just fun.

There's those parties where a lot of fun. Yeah. Well, the liquor flowed freely. That's always the key to people always say, what's the key to a good party? Get the people fucked up. It's not rocket science. I've thrown parties here.

I mean, this place was the party house until we made it into a studio. I mean, it looked the same. But I've had a lot of parties here. And what's the secret? I would roll like 100 joints and just pass them out to people at the party and make it easy to get a drink. I've never understood why it's always hard

to get a drink at a bar. Wouldn't you sell more liquor if everyone could get a drink? Well, I would have bartenders are cheap. I would have like 10 bartenders instead of the one or two. And everyone's just trying to get their attention. That's right. What the fuck? Wouldn't you sell more liquor?

It's a pretty good concept, actually. I think I'm onto something. You're onto something. But why doesn't anybody do it? There has to be a reason. I mean, they're saving some money, obviously. You know, it keeps us staying up. Are you kidding?

The markup on liquor is the most yeah. It's the most ridiculous. It costs 10 cents to pour it. And it probably, you know, then you charge $14. I don't even know what a, it's been so long since I've drank in a bar. I don't know what a drink is. Yeah, I don't, I don't do bars on some, I think. I bet you 20 bucks buys you one drink with a tip.

I bet the kind of tequila I'm having right here. I bet you it is $20, $20 for a shot of that stuff. Right. Oh, I remember back in the day, even there were certain kinds of liquor I wasn't drinking them, but like, it was like $32 a shot or something. I'm sure they're out. Jesus.

Fony Bologna asked whole places in Vegas and lots of places with the bottle service, where, yeah. Remember Joel and Allison giving out the weed cookies at the match and when you walked in? I do remember weed cookies. Yeah. They'd reach into their communists and hand everybody a cookie when they walked in.

Yes. Yeah. They were not terribly good as I recall. They were not good, but I tried it a couple times and I remember being a little too out of my mind. Oh, it's so they were good for you. They definitely worked. Yeah, they had something worked out. Maybe I've smoked so much pot. That's why I switched to these clothes cigarettes. Yeah, those clothes are smelling really good. Try it. You know, I haven't tried a clove in a while. I mean, I'm scared where it'll take me. I don't want to be a bad influence.

I've tried to clothe in a while. I mean, I'm scared where it'll take me. I don't want to be a bad influence. No, you couldn't do that. Right. Why, because you don't need one? No, I'm actually, you know, the fun thing about having this persona is that I get to escape through it and kind of troll in my own way, you know, but realistically, I'm a guy who likes, I'm a kind of a hermit.

I don't like to go out to parties much. I'm a hillbilly from North Carolina, and I'm living, you know, kind of that kind of way here in California, but ultimately, I just keep it lowkey, man, and I listen to 70s music a lot. That's about all I really listen to. Really like what, yeah. I mean, you just, very white.

Not very white. I mean, very white makes it into the list. 70s? I'd say I've listened to a lot of 70s singer songwriter stuff. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Like Jackson Brown. Yeah, love Jackson Brown. Yeah, very, very good.

Like Dawes? Like what? Dawes. No, I don't know this. You don't know Dawes? Oh. They're pretty big. They're, look, I'm not gonna say they, I don't know, they sound like Jackson Brown a lot,

but they have their own things. So I don't want to like say it wrong and make them think I'm saying that they're ripping him off because I'm a big fan of theirs. But it's like if Jackson Brown had a son, it's so much about them as reminiscing, but I'm a big fan because I'm a big Jackson Brown. D-A-W-S?

D-A-W-E-F. Yes, yeah, it does. They're pretty big. Yeah, it's amazing. I don't even know what that's my playlist because I have a massive 70s playlist and I can't see. Well, they're not 70s, they're now. Oh, they're now.

That's what I'm saying is they're like the, they're the, the now version of the closest thing to Jackson Brown or anything like that from back then. Yeah. Oh, I would recommend them. I'm going to check it out. He said the lead singer's married to Mandy Moore, I think. They're pretty big. Okay. Interesting. They must be. He's got a movie star girlfriend. Well, I'll see you like from now. Anyone? Like you like getting music today? Oh yeah, name some people. I don't know any.

Really? You don't know any from now? Come on. I mean, not really. You know, who's good is Mr. The Weekend? Oh yeah, The Weekend. I mean, I always judge music by whether it would be a hit in any decade, you know, not always judge.

But like, to me, that's a great marker of whether I'm going to like a record. And Mr. The Weeknd makes records that sound to me like they could have been. First of all, he sounds just like Michael Jackson sometimes. Yeah, he's definitely got a good voice. It's got a great alto. I think that's an alto voice, or tenor maybe, is that a tenor? I mean, I'm kind of green with you, I don't really know. I'm not much of a musician to be honest with you.

Really? Yeah, more of you know, I got in this, I grew up on a farm in North Carolina and I always wanted to be a filmmaker. And so I had read that James Foley, Director Glenn Gary Glenn Ross at Close Range, I'd read that he directed Music Video as Martin Scorsese, directed Music Videos, David Fincher. And so I said, man, I'll put together a band, my spinal tap, you know, my spark, sparks my thing, and I was obsessed with Andy Kaufman

and things like that. And I said, I'll put together this spinal tap and direct the music video and go to Hollywood and start making movies. And that's not how it happened. So after the... Wow. So, Limpisket was really just a vehicle to something else? That's what it started out as, yeah. So it's a...

It became so huge. Let's see who's guys. I remember, like, Limpiscott was like, you know, just like culturally phenomenal level. Wow. Right? I mean, it's, it's a heart beat to say that, but here you say that. It was a big thing.

It was a big thing. We definitely had a moment there, and it was, it was just something that I didn't expect and the movie thing just didn't happen. You have, I'm telling Jimmy Iveane and Ted Fields and all these guys, hey, I want to drive him. It was just something that I didn't expect and the movie thing just didn't happen. I'm telling Jimmy Iveane and Ted Fields and all these guys, hey, I want to direct movies and they're like, no, you're going to be a rock star. You're selling a bunch of records.

Well, I mean, every thing that reaches that level of bigness, I think, has to be, not just, I mean, the band has to, of course, have talent and be doing something, but you also have to, like, then hit the zeitgeist at the right moment with the right thing. I mean, the Beatles, everybody did it in their way. And there was, like, a feeling around that, like, turn of the century time.

And it was angsty and it was like you captured that kind of, you know, I'm, you know, I'm just pissed and I'm gonna break it and you know. I was bullied my whole life, tortured bullied. I was really this this peon kid in my city of school. And ultimately, the vehicle I used to put behind libiscat was, oh man, I'll use this microphone to fight these guys back. But the irony was the bullies that tortured me were addressing like me in the audience. And so this massive art project turned into the most ironic thing I've ever had. So interesting. And here I am 25 years later going, wow, this is so cool.

That is so impressive. So bizarre. No, that's a movie. No, that's something. No, that's a great ending. People call it Jock Rock. I mean, I despise Jocks because those were the ones that beat my ass all the time. That's the theme of your movie about it.

It's the people in the art, what you just said. That's the movie. Build it around that. The people in the audience become the you just said, that's the movie, build it around that. The people in the audience become the thing that you were getting away from. That's right. I mean, that's great, that's sticking the landing. Of course, you gotta flesh this out,

like for over 120 pages. I'm the big idea, man, Fred. All right. Hey, we will footnote you, Bill. Don't worry about that. I know. The big idea, and then everybody else does the work. Yeah, that's interesting concept.

No, it is. You know, if we are you into anything, like I know it's the seems obvious to talk about music and things like that. And I hear your big music guy. I hear you really, really are. Well, I mean, like everybody, I don't think anyone can have an encyclopedic knowledge of music. There's just too much of it.

There's too many bands like Dawes. Like to me, that's a fairly big band, and you didn't ever heard of them. And you could do that to me right now with 20 bands and say, hey, they're pretty big, and I'd be like, no clue. Or maybe I've heard of them and don't have no idea what they do.

They could be doing polka music. They could be gogrorian. Chance could be go groin, chance, anything, you know. That brings to mind, Steve and Seagulls, have you heard of these guys? Absolutely not. Who? Stephen Seagulls?

Like, I guess it's a play on Steven Seagull. I'm not sure. But these guys play the spoons, up the upright bass, the accordion, and they're wearing overalls, they're hillbillies, I guess, and they do covers and they're unbelievable. Cover.

Yeah, like cover songs, like this is this song of an ACDC song. I wanna say maybe T and T or something. And I just saw it recently, blew my mind. Really? Yeah, they're just performing outside on their farm or whoever's farm it is. Their version of it is so good.

So good. It's unbelievable. Well, I mean, you're like three quarters of the way home if you're getting to play a great song and these are all established great songs. I mean, there's a reason why cover bands are not as popular or esteemed as band bands. But as far as just entertainment value,

yeah. I mean, very often I come across something as I'm like looking for new music or hearing something and it's a cover song that I didn't know existed by somebody and it's like, oh, that's great. I already love that song and here's a great new version. There's a station that I play on Pandora sometimes that's just, it's mostly that. It's like California Dreaming, but now it's with a beat that's very current. Right. You know, and it's the, you can't beat the tune, and it's a great lyric. That's the key, right?

The tune, you could strip it down to the melody and the one-core progression in its timeless. That's when you know it's just epic. I mean, you can't really ever have a rational discussion. I don't think with people about music or I feel there's no point to reading a music review. Either I like the song or I don't. That's how I feel. And you can't convince somebody. It's not an argument.

I like it or I don't. You know? And I still use the old iPod because I feel like it's a superior way of listening. I can explain why. But one reason is that I like to know exactly what I'm listening to. I don't want to have, sometimes I listen to Pandora and have things I don't hear. That's how I do find new music. But sometimes I want to hear what I want to hear.

And if I put my 4,000 songs, they go back to the 60s, it's Bill Mar radio on shuffle, and it's always a song I like. Sometimes it's, you know, upbeat shuffle and it's always a song I like sometimes it's you know I'll beat and sometimes it's not but I'm not gonna dislike any of them right You know, I think a for effort, you know I really if I don't like something I just don't like it. I don't hate on it I don't care about it. I'm like yeah, I just personally don't have an emotional Positive emotional reaction to this jam. We all can't like everything. We can't.

Yeah. But there's a lot of people out there pretending they do and pretending they don't, you know, for controversial reasons, I guess. Pretending they like things? I think so. I think there's a lot of people to just go with the flow out there for popularity, in my opinion.

A lot of people are doing their stations. But luckily we get to curate our own TV channels and our own radio stations now. And that's something that we didn't grow up getting to do. We were at the mercy of FM radio, AM radio, and whatever TV channels or limited cable was coming through at the time. So who's at your shows every age? These days, every night I'll say, how many people is your first time seeing libiscate the whole place raises their hand?

How many people are below under 30 years old the whole place raises their hand? I think the people who grew up liking libiscate probably are a little old or they'd probably rather me do a Paul Newman and give them some salad dressing or some soap. You know, they're not listening to that kind of music right now. And maybe there's a hip hop kind of current going through our music

that maybe helped us through time. We never, I took everything away. I didn't want to market anymore. I don't sell merchandise online. I don't sell the concerts. I didn't promote anything because I wanted to pull back and see what our music could do through a noisy world. How do you rise above the noise?

And luckily, I'm so grateful, but it's just, there's a resurgence. It's just happening. It's young people that are reacting to the material. I think it's a smart strategy because kids don't like to be marketed too. They agree with that. They're fucking ignorant about almost everything.

Most of them, not the smart ones, but really, not their fault. Schools just don't teach shit. They let you out the door without knowing anything, but they are savvy about media. I will give them that. It's the one thing they know. They grow up on social media and media and they get that.

So like the last thing you can ever try to do is be inauthentic and be successful with them. I agree. I mean, anyone who, like me, I'm sure that's why because, you know, some people say to me, somebody said to me this week and it's her, but you know, you kind of throw a lot of shade at the millennials and the Gen Z. And I'm like, but they don't seem to hold it against me. I mean, the one, most of them are not watching is they would ever be considered watching something

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What's zero point energy? Zero point energy is a technology that's been around for a long time, that's been kind of dark-shelf and buried that you could take energy from the vacuum in space to power everything we need. Your home, power this, your whole... The vacuum and space. Yes, so what happens is we don't need to plug into the power grid. We don't need to have this primitive kind of energy situation that we're being forced.

Basically you're born on earth to be to either pay for energy and survive or not be able to pay for energy and not make it. Well, okay, so what is the vacuum in space? And why is it filled with energy and how do we get it out of it? Well, that's the idea, the idea. There's, I can understand why we're in space. No, I'm sorry, but there's already people who've proven it. There's already people who've done the technology.

Same like the guy who created the car that runs off hydrogen and water. You know, his technology's been show. Imagine if we are cars ran off water. You know, it'd be a big deal, right? Yeah, I just so you really don't think much about that stuff. I've heard it before. I have never heard this one about the vacuum in space, which I don't know what is.

I mean, I know what vaguely what a black hole is. Very vaguely don't ask me explain it or teach it uh... the poetry teacher but uh... but uh... uh... vacuum in space i'm not sure what that is i'm not sure why it would produce energy and i'm not sure how we would ever get at the fuck out of there so imagine the free energy was free

do you think that would be okay for for anybody in the world if we had free energy? You know what Fred, I can also imagine them sending me ice cream in the mail every day. But you know, just because you can imagine it doesn't mean that it's real or possible or you know, I mean, this just sounds like something somebody told you. I've actually, yes, people have told me and some people who are really involved with it and they've exposed some videos and some home videos made by people who do it. But do you understand the science of it?

If not, then you're just... The science of it, I can't really articulate that well. Well, if you don't understand the science of it, then it's just religion. Then you're just believing something on faith. And I'm wanting to believe in it. Exactly. There you go. Wanting to believe in it is, you know, if that's leading to you actually believing in it,

then you have to be a little stronger in the mind. And so, sure, I wanna believe in a lot of things. I would like to believe that Jesus loves me and whatever shitty things I do on earth, he died for my sins. Thank you, by the way. I love your thing with Mike DeVittice and on Jesus, by the way. Mike Tyson your thing with Mike, with Tyson on Jesus, by the way.

Mike Tyson? I think I think you were talking with Tyson, right? I was. Yeah, and I think he went into... He was so he did mind. You went into something about your thoughts on Jesus and the Bible. Jesus, did he hit me?

No, he did. But you hit him with some... Oh, really? I thought some unbelievable perspective, in my opinion, I was really, really into what you said about it. Well, I don't remember that these stone clothes cigarettes, but I should try that clothes cigarettes. You should.

I'll try it. Oh, there you go. This will be the first time. Thank you, rock star. Now, my faith is restored in rock star. And no more zero point energy. Bill, Bill, Bill Martin doesn't believe in it. No, well, again, believe in is a religious term.

I don't believe in things. I don't. Yeah, I got to get hit to that. I don't believe in global warming, global warming. Do you believe that Paul McCartney was the leader of the Beatles? Well, that's an interesting. Of course, that's an opinion thing. And it depends on what year we're talking about.

John Lennon was undoubtedly, undeniably, the founder of the band. And the glue, am I opinion? Well, let's hold on. He was in the founding of the band from, you know, earliest times, 1956 is when they met. All through, I would say, he wrote most of the Hard Days Night album, which is their third in 1964.

Paul McCartney is definitely the leader of the band by 1967. And that's, you know, so there's no one answer. So shifted in Europe. It definitely shifts. Okay. The documentary, the Peter Jackson documentary, you nailed something we were talking about when Harvey was leaving was, I thought, you're right. What we're seeing is we have a portal into this one particular moment

Yeah, and we see a lot of it. That's right. You can't fake it over I mean we watched As much as I love the Beatles it was like wow, this is a lot of footage That's I mean I am really seeing everything. I mean, I like those songs But I mean you you you hear songs that you already have heard a million times. That's right. Played a lot. What's astounded me besides the fact that, again, Paul McCartney and John Lennon

was the love affair that explains everything and it never stopped. And Yoko didn't break up the thing. Yoko did not ignore it the whole time. He brought in a bed, yes, so she could sleep and not talk to him. But... Good idea. But the fact that they went into a studio was a January 2nd, it was right after New Years, and they said, okay, we need 14 new awesome songs, and we're going to have to have that by the end of the month, and what do we have? Nothing? Okay. And then did it. You know, they're sang-flaw, you know. They're unflapped ability in the

always that band, in the face of everything that was going on the global clamor. They're coolness, the ability to just stay calm, which could only come from, they had a hard scrabble upbringing. You don't get that way when you are born on easy street. I mean, some people have had it worse, but you know, John Lennon was actually the most middle-class one.

He acted like working class here, but it was bullshit. That's right. McCartney talks about it in his book, John lived in a middle class house. They lived like in the projects. Anyway, just, but the fact that they were like, yeah, yeah, it's, we got, whoa, 28 days to come up with this.

And we were like, what do you got? No, nothing, no, it's a good idea though. And then, I mean, there's one point where you see Paul waiting for the rest to show up, and he's writing, get back on the base. That's the part that blows my mind. So here they do. They beatle Strike a deal with the major, right?

They're gonna get some amount of money to this TV show where they write this record with their fans in this TV studio. But it's falling apart. It's just a tragic situation that as we see it unravel, we see Paul McCartney, like he said, noodling on the base, because somebody on time, or he's waiting on somebody,

he starts going, jolly with them, what do you think he was waiting for? Like, but unbelievable. And that's how things happen. That's how they happen in my band. That's how, right. And that was just so like, wow, finally,

somebody's showing this with the band that's a phenomenon, which I believe there's only a few phenomenon. So that happens with your band. You're in the studio and somebody is just starting to noodle and somebody else goes, that sounds good. Play that more and then you add onto it and then the groupies. And then the groupies? I'm kind of like the composer.

Get to the point where the groupies go. We don't have groupies. And I don't want to ruin it because we're supposed to have the groupies. But the thing is our band has always been incredibly boring in that sense. Oh, stop it. Really? That's... You must have had them. I mean, I was the only

one that could really pull. Talked anybody. Oh, I was the ball. So I said, oh, the pull, like bullet. No, no, no, no. Everybody was a rock star at the time. But yet that, you know, what happens is I'm like a composer. I sit back and I and these guys are so talented and they just start noodling and I can hear something, like you can hear something, if it talks to you, if it speaks to your God, I go, hey man, loop that little part and he'll go, what part? You know who you're describing?

And who worked exactly like this? Barry White. Oh, this is a Barry White thing. It is. It's the anchor. Barry White. I don't have them in my playlist, but he came back. Barry White was a was like a composer like who did it just the way you're talking. Really? Yes.

Yes, that's how Barry White worked. How do you know that? Because I'm his son. You look there was a striking resemblance here. I will think that was going to come out at some point. Okay, no, because I don't know because I'm here. It's long music fan. I look Barry White the the some of this stuff is just almost it's he must have known it was a little campy with the four minute talking over and I want to see you when you're a blue panties and And I mean, it's just, but like he could make a record. Oh man.

I mean, the ones, you know, my first, my last, my everything, I mean, these records kick ass. And he's just right here in the freezer. And his voice is right here. Yes, and the voice. And that's important. But he would just direct the orchestra and I want this sound here and I want to,

you never wrote a thing down. I'm not sure he had the greatest formal education. I don't know any, I just learned the chords maybe two years ago. Really? Yeah, I've always just played by ear and I play all the instruments, but I work and react with the guys just by ear. So I'm the same in some kind of way. Maybe I'm... They call you the white. Or the white, very white.

The white, white. Freddie White. That might be by New Alias. Because you know, we can't put our name at the hotel. What Alias do you use at the hotel? Let's hear your Alias do you use at hotels. And then we'll change it to a new one. Sounds like something much more. You're avoiding this.

But what's the alias you use when you check into a hotel? I use Haywood Jublamy. Are you serious? No. Oh my god. Let's get comedian a question. Yeah, but you must use an alias. You don't check it under your name.

Uh, no, I, I, well, I, I dress and drag and I, I, I, I, well, that we already know. Registrar under the name. But what's the name? Edith me out. Um, it's just, you're a Willie Fister bottom. Right?

The whole time. This is you. I love the good enough of you. I love all those names. I do. But no, I'm not gonna tell you my fake name. Because you don't want to change it. You don't want to change it.

I don't. Why are you pestering me on this? Why? Because I would love for you to let this out. I don't. I know. We don't need to show. You don't need to show. You don't need to show. You don't need your house. I know, but you don't want it.

This is a badass piece of property, by the way. Thank you. No, seriously. Thank you. Like legendary, because I actually, when my house burned down in Malibu and the point Thune fires, JJ Abrams. Abrams.

Abrams rent me his house for two years. And I didn't know you were my neighbor. Oh, you lived right here? Two houses up. You're kidding. No. And I didn't know you were my neighbor. Oh, you lived right here? Two houses up. You're kidding. No. And I would always see your house and go, God, I feel bad for those people that have the little house

by the road, but when you walk in the gate, yeah. Yeah. It's never land. Yeah. Yeah. We made that decision long ago to put the house behind the gate. No, but you see a little piece of the house.

I know. So that's the problem. You see from the road, you see a little piece of the house. I know. So that's the problem. You see from the road, you see this dope, little modern house, but you don't think there's this amazing property back here. That's my that's my that's my how long have you been here? Well, I live next door. I live there. I put that house in 2001. This is the house next door. I got a few years later. That's why Club random is here. I know, live in Club random. So Club random's on your property?

Correct, but not my, yes. It's on the, I have. I have 2001 before 9-11 or 2001 after now. I have a vacation home, and it just happens to be right next door to my other home. So it's so easy. It's so easy. God dang. When I go to, when I go to. You next door to my other home. So it's so easy. God dang it.

When I go to, when I go to. You're the rock star. Yeah. Let's just not get this crooked. No. You are the rock star. Well, there is. You've always been a rock star.

I thank you. I remember seeing you at the party talking about. Oh, no. You definitely were the rock star. I wasn't with a girl and you were. Oh, please. Stop it. But in a cool way where I rockster, I wasn't with a girl and you were. Oh, please, stop it. But in a cool way, where I would go, man, that guy, that guy's really got something going on.

You know, not just the looks. Well, the looks, yeah. I don't think it was ever about the looks, which by the way, is an advantage, because if you're like a pretty boy when you're young and then you get to be older, you've got to live with that. Oh my God, this is a great diminishing

in what I used to be. But for us, it doesn't happen. Because we were never that to begin with. So I never relied on like being the guy who just walked in the room and just smile and panties would wet and that was not. Are you sure? Yeah, I don't.

Yeah. If it was, then I really missed a lot. But that's possible. But I know. I don't think so. You've got... When did you realize you had so much character? You have such great character. Oh, thanks, Fred. Um, I don't know.

Well, character, what do you mean by character? Well, you know, where you kind of went, God, I'm a little different. And that little different is actually kind of cool. And I'm okay with it. Oh, you know, where you kind of went, God, I'm a little different. And that little different is actually kind of cool. And I'm okay with it. Oh, yeah. I mean, I think it's an evolution. I mean, I'll tell you this.

I knew when I was a child that I wanted to be a comedian. I mean, a very young child. Oh, really? Yes. Like, you know, eight or nine years old. What did you see that made you feel like? My father was funny around the house, you know, a funny, witty guy. And my mother was, had a great sense of humor.

And, you know, I just think I saw that and you kind of want to saw his friends laughing at him. And like, I think that just gets in you. And we were also a family that, of course, back in those days, we would watch the family crazy idea. We would watch TV together. Oh my God. Can you imagine bonding with your family?

Yeah. So like we would all watch the same shows when I was a kid at Sullivan, you know, if I could stay up late sometimes, Johnny Carson and, you know, how old are you? I'm like, I mean. I'm like, I'm like, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I thought, I thought you at the time, I'm 67 now.

60, oh my God, really? Yeah. Go, Mike, you look so young. I'm 67 now. Oh my God, really? Yeah. Go, Mike, you look so young. Well, thank you. It's that, you know, it's that, probably I don't look young. I don't act old. You know, if you just don't act old,

if you don't have... No, man, it's very rare. I'm kind of tripping than the fact that you are 67 right now. Yeah. You're awareness and you're, man, this is... Wow. ...haven having an epiphany right here on your shelf. Oh, epiphany, good.

It's close to the right. Take the room, smell good. They really do, and you're lunged, but. Have you had your lungs checked recently? Oh, geez, let's not break up the party. Because you don't like death. Who likes death? I hate death.

And when I heard that you hated death, I go, man, God, thank somebody else hates death as much as I did. Well, who, only, okay, the only people who don't, dislike death are the ones who really are super sure that they're going to the better place. Which is quite a bet to be making based on. You gotta be really dumb to do, to believe that. Well, dumb or crazy

like a fox because again as Harvey and I were talking about, it gives you an amazing piece of mind that could be like the key to a lot of health. I mean, I can really see that. Like I'll give you another example of that. I've heard people say this spirituality makes you live longer, but I've also heard them say it about marriage. People say that, you know, I've heard doctors say this, you know. And I'm always like, well, maybe for you, it's really a personal thing, isn't it? Because I have heard men say at times, people I've known, like my age group, and they'll be like, thank God, my wife was there when I got cancer,

because I don't think I could have made it through without her. And I always want to say, maybe she gave it to you. Not in a, you know, not deliberately, but just like the stress of relationships, I do think can give you cancer. We're in it. I'm riding that way. I know I should get you this moment.

That we're agreeing on everything. Come on. No, I'm kind of like, I understand where you're coming from. It's true. It's just true. I mean, relationships, even good ones, include in them a lot of stress, just a lot of stress. Like being alone can be lonely and that's not good and that can be stressful. But I feel like sometimes in my life,

the most stressful thing was just wanting to keep something together when it's hard to do and worrying so much about what would happen to me and her if it didn't stay together know, stay together and the angst or the angst of losing someone and wanting them or wanting someone who doesn't want you. I mean, all that stuff I feel like created a lot of the stress and angst in my life, none of which you're responsible for. But you're kind of in this place in your life where you never maybe I don't know how much of the light

you saw at the end of the tunnel, but right now you're in the now and you're feeling very, very good and you're really happy. Yeah. Was it something you thought would happen? Well, I just think a lot of happiness is- Did you manifest this? Well, I don't even know if you can, a pre-book and do that. I mean, you can definitely. I think you can. Well, I think you can plan for things. If that's what you mean by that. I think you can put out the vibe and the energy

and kind of create the world you want by the energy you put out. I think that's vague. I don't know. I mean, that's, I don't know about putting out energy. I mean, I would use my energy to like actually create something like Elon Musk. when he was making Tesla. He slept in the Tesla factory for two years.

I don't know if that's putting out energy. I feel like that's harnessing it and husbanding it. You're putting out energy. And they would be using it or not. You're putting out water. Yes. If you put vibrate frequencies, we're all frequencies. So if you literally run them with a glass of water, certain frequencies, you can see that they affect it. And we're full of water. And we have to put out positive energy. Are you reading a lot of popular mechanics?

No, it's not. Where are you getting this? I'm kind of just kind of going into the quantum moment of that moment you're talking about, you know, in your story. So I'm just smoking your weed. You've intoxicated me. And I'm breaking it down. And actually, I'm getting an insightful voyeuristic view into your soul.

And I think all of us are seeing an incredible moment where you're talking, right? I think this is gonna be the podcast, guys, don't cut to me, because he's saying some great shit. And I ain't saying shit. You're saying plenty of shit. No, what I mean is I'm really inspired by it. Oh good, but this is really cool.

I haven't done a podcast, haven't impressed any of you. And I appreciate it so much. This is awful, no, I believe me. I'm feeling as mutual. I mean, that really cool. I haven't done a pocket, seven impressions. I know, and I appreciate it somewhat. This is awful, no, I believe me. I'm feeling as mutual. I mean, that's cool, man. Yeah, you're right. I mean, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't do, thank you.

I don't do any, one of the great things about being this age is, of course, the bad things are, yes, your older blah, blah, blah, blah, but there's that, I don't do anything I don't want. I don't talk to anybody I don't want to talk to. Especially here, this is my house. Sure. I live here.

This is where I've wife plays in her children's play. So Ben Affleck gets some weird stuff. Oh, that's the Godfather. He did some naughty stuff right here. Who? Ben Affleck. Well, I don't know what, I don't know what he did here. I don't either, but I think this was his, right?

Yes. So that's wild. Well, who knows? I mean, who knows what went on in here? You know, movie stars, rock stars. I can only dream of movies. Bill Marr, it's a, I'm lucky to be blessed by your wisdom in this experience and having this cool evening.

It's not work. It's not a, it's not a job. It and having this cool evening. It's not work. It's not a it's not a job. It's just this amazing evening where it's an adventure kind of. Yeah, but that's thank you for saying that because Ben Affleck was in here and Ben Affleck was in here with doing stuff. I'm serious. And so were you? I was not doing it with Ben Affleck. I don't know if you were. We never lived here at the same time. He sold it to me.

But this, yes, when I... Did you and Ben ever hang out here together? Never. No, I knew it. Well, we got to make that happen. I knew he was the next guy. We got to invite Ben down to the show. Ben's on to a different thing.

And he needs to hang out with you in his old house. Ben's on, like, I love Ben. Tell you what he did here. I love Ben to, I'm a huge Ben Affleck fan. I love Ben Affleck. I love all the Afflecks. Casey Affleck, I love Casey Affleck. He's amazing.

You certainly, you are. I would love to work with him. You will not be there, sir. Hey, but you know what, Casey Affleck is awesome. He's awesome. He's so dope. He's an amazing actor. He's an amazing actor. It's funny.

Who's your favorite actor right now? Ben Affleck. No, I said to Casey, I he did my show once. I said to him, you know, your brother is the biggest, bigger movie star, but you really are actually the more. God, he's so good. He's an amazing actor. Good.

And he said to me, I'm always telling him that. I don't know. And Ben Affleck is a perfectly fine actor. But yes, Casey, I've learned... No, Ben's amazing man. Yeah, he's fun. But he's a movie star. And he's...

Town? But the best thing about the town... The best thing about... He's an amazing filmmaker. Oh, he's an amazing filmmaker. And the... The... The... The... The cargo. And... Oh, he's the amazing filmmaker and the the Gargo and the I've lived by night the gangster one.

He makes a great movie Mel Gibson does too, by the way, and he's a great, a great, a great actor. He just has a good filter man. And that's still legit. Yeah, he's an actor. He's a great actor. He just has a good filter, man. And that's what matters. Nobody loves Jason Bourne more than me. Nobody. I mean, every time I think, I can't watch Jason Bourne movies

again, and I do, and they still work. And everybody is ripped off that formula. They all try to do it with the same music, and the cut, and they can't, and they don't. And the story and he makes it work, but all of them. All three of them. Plus the one, even with Jeremy Renner. I mean, that is my favorite franchise.

What? Which one was Jeremy Renner? Jerry Renner did one where it was Jason Bourne. Oh, yeah, that's right. Yeah, it was the Bourne-Lighter. Jerry Renner's the one that I love that guy. Yeah. He's a good dude. Right, what is Shane what happened? Yeah, it was the born light. It was the born light. Born light. I love that guy. Yeah.

He's a good dude. Right. What a shame what happened. Yeah, he's a good dude. And he actually made it through it. And I really wish him was. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah.

No snowplow jokes here. No snowplow jokes here. And he was awesome in the town, Joe. But he would actually appreciate if you said a snowplow joke. If you have one. Oh, well, first of all, no, I, what are my Bob hope? Yeah, get me some snow plow. I got a great picture of Bob. I'm so jealous. I'm still in my wall looking up in my file. Snow plow snow. Oh, I got a snap of, I got snuggers, joke.

Hey, say you know what? You might have been the only guy that had a snowplow joke. I don't fucking know. Okay. What's great is I don't fucking know anything about it. About what? About anything. I thought you just said you knew about the vacuum in space where all the energy is going to go. There is a vacuum in space, and we can pull energy from it, and it can power this TV show, podcast, whatever this thing is. Well, it better be spot on. But you have a fucking tree house.

So I get here, and I go, God damn, this place is unbelievable. And then I'm in a tree house that's more unbelievable than this. Okay, first of all, it's, when you say tree house, that's what we call it. I don't know why I didn't name it that, but it's pounded in my brain by your producer.

Sure it was. It's where we treat the guest. It's like the green room here. Okay, it's a guest house. It's a green room. It's a guest house on the property. Ben lived there, if that makes you feel better, I'm sure. And it's a bend it did some shit in that place.

That may be true. It's a, it is a, it's a loft. It's very modest. Oh, Jod. No, it's a loft house. It's cute. But is that really the, his main house? Was that house?

Yes, because that is so humble. That is not a dope house. It is very humble. There's a kind of a great little old fashioned fireplace in there. Yeah, like the charm of it. But I cannot see JLo saying, I'm living here. I know. It's not.

As soon as you said that was a main outfit. No, no, no, no, no, no. But I love that he lived there because that's incredible. You know, Sean Penn lived in an airstream trailer for years in Malibu on the other side of PCH in an airstream all by himself. Well, because he was getting into character to play a bomb. Oh.

Oh. I got a great story. Or Linson told me about that audition, by the way. What audition? Fast times original. I high. Oh, Sean Penn, it's done, been sitting where you are. Yeah. One of my best. He's a friend of times original, hi. Oh, Sean Penn, it's done, been sitting where you are.

Yeah. One of my best. He's a friend of mine too, legend. I would love to say one of my best friends, I hope he considers me that way, but I just adore him. I do. And he's become like so much,

like I was saying this to somebody, the other, oh David Byrne was on my show, and he, I'd seen him say on 60 minutes, that everybody says to me, you got nicer when you got older. And I same thing with me and same thing with Sean. He's just he's such a mensch. Not that he wasn't always a great guy but he was there was an edge to him and I think the same thing with me and that's what I was kind of getting to say with David Burr and like

he didn't answer the question the way I would of which is why did we get nicer. I forget what he said but it was very funny But my thought was because we're less insecure. That's why, because when we're young, we're like, oh my God, I gotta make it. And maybe you're in the way. And I'm just tense about that. And at a certain point, you either made it or didn't. And if you did, it's like, oh, thank you, Jesus.

I got my card punched. I can relax. Like, you know, I'm not benavly. But, you know, I'm very happy with where I wound up. And that allows you to sort of like, oh, breathe and consider other people a little more. You know, it's not all just about you getting where you're from. Getting to where you have to go.

Where were you born? I was born in a tree house. Okay. In that tree house? No, okay. I'm glad I reminded myself. That is not a tree house. That's a nice little loft.

It's a tree house. It's a guest house. No, no, no. No, I see it's a tree house. I have to have an ambivaly hill. That's a ambivaly hill tree house. I have to have an ambivaly hill. A ambivaly hill is like that.

I have a ambivaly hill. A ambivaly hill would rent or buy a ron of ambival Beverly Hills tree house. Because the tree house of Beverly Hills is like that. I have a very... And Ben Affleck would rent or buy a own of Beverly Hills tree house like that. I have a very specific reason why I'm a con... Conradinki. What? On whether this is a tree house.

He called me a con. I said no. That's what he did. No, I didn't. This tree house is a loft house. There are trees near it. I guess that's where it came from. I, listen to me.

I, for 12 years, I did a show and two shows in Hawaii every new year. I did December 30th. Never been in Hawaii. Oh, December 30th. We did Maui in the December 31st. We did a big show in Honolulu. Woody Harrelson. I love Woody Harrelson. Lives on Maui. We would always see each other when I was in Maui, and I would go to Honolulu.

I'd always see Sean Penn, including this last year. He did a little thing in my show. So I would, and they were feuding with each other. They wouldn't talk to each other, but I was friends with Woody and Sean. Yes Maybe to the politics. I don't know. I don't know why they want you know what it is. I don't I honestly don't But I have a feeling they're both so dope. There's both so chill and really cool and open-minded, right? I would say fortunately both their wives fuck Ben Affleck anyway in that tree house in the tree house It's not a tree house But Woody Harrelson on his property has a tree house.

This is what I'm saying. Oh my God. One of the years, Michael, you think law, you're a chess player. You think long game because this is a tie in it. I can't remember what year it was, but Michael Moore, I always took a lot of people on this vacation. Michael Moore came with me to great Michael Moore. Wow.

The documentarian. Wow. Okay. The documentarian. Yes. So, we drove out to Woody's place, which is to say it's off the grid is an understatement. I mean, it's out in this Dixbro, and like, this is, I think, before GPS. I mean, I don't know how we ever found this place. Well, here? This is probably 10 years ago.

Okay. Woody, you know, this is where Woody and Laura live. I mean, it's an amazing piece of property. I always kid him that he doesn't have a housey as a porch because there's no walls. Like, you know, this is the thing. I know I can't just live in the first house I ever bought as a little camera right beside.

Yeah, okay. That's the first house I ever bought. So, okay, so on this vast property they have, and this is the uncivilized part of Maui. It's just like, I mean, it's okay. The cool part. Yes. Well, certainly the part if you want to be just in nature,

and it is spectacular. That's what I would want. But there he has a tree house. And I mean a house builds into a tree. I mean, very elaborate stuff. Like that one? No! That one is not that. But he has a tree house.

If you ever wanna see what an actual tree house is, a house in a tree built by a movie star, with franchise money. Electricity? I will set it up. You go to Maui and you can see what a tree house is. He set it up. That would be amazing.

Cause I will do that in document every piece for you. He would love you. He loves nothing more than a new bromance. This guy has more bromances than I can shake a stick at. I'm a little jealous, but we have a great one. But, you know, I'm having a bromance with you, but it doesn't feel like it's being reciprocated. Exactly.

It totally reciprocated. It's okay. I'm blown away by you. Like I really am. Like the fact that you're the age you are You're so in tune and you are not held up on a bunch of shit It's all it's all you do spit shit out of your mouth. I do when you make me laugh No, but that's the age because you wouldn't have done that at 57

of course I would. Why do you say that? I just don't think so. I'm just tapping your leg. Is that sexual assault? No. Did I do something unacceptable? You couldn't get in my ass if you tried. And I know you're not trying. And I know you're not trying. I think I could. Well, I'm dream on.

I'm not trying, but I could. What is that rock star confidence? Like I could fuck anybody I want. No, it's not. No, but I could. What is that rock star confidence? Like I could fuck anybody I want. No, it's not. No, it's not. No, it's not. I just know, kind of feel what you're into. I'm going to put that.

I feel people's energy and I feel like you might let me in that. A friend of mine once said to me, I went to a Mick Jagger, pick up a girl with just a look. And I knew exactly what he meant. And I have no doubt it happened. I have no doubt that- Do you have that look? Of course not. I'm not a rocker.

Give me that look. I know. Give the camera. If I was camera, is it? Give him that look. Well, you have the Bill Marluck. I don't know if you have the mid-summer's Playboy, Mid-summer's Night Dream Bill Marluck. I don't have that at all. mid-summer's playboy mid-summer's night dream,

Bill Marluck. I don't have that at all. You would look over and go. But I'll tell you now. But Fred, I'll tell you what I do have is the wisdom to understand, which I didn't earlier in life, is that it's not so much, yes, so much, but it's not so much what you look like. It's how you look at them. You're on to something meaning girls. You're on. It was a just girls. Well, in my case, yes, and you're

it's how you look at them. Yeah. And that how you did it. Can you can you actually turn it on again for a second round? Seriously, I'm a director and I'm working with you. I'm handling your ego well. Okay. So I go and action bill. Just look into their eyes. Just have a pair of balls, hit your mark and say what you have to say. Don't bullshit. They don't like being bullshit. Okay. Don't take them down a Primrose Path and then leave them by the side of the road.

Okay, be honest. If you can't be there forever, say it upfront. They'll respect you for it. Cut! Cut! That's a fucking take. That's a take right there. Okay, hey Bill, we're good.

That was a... We're gonna break down and move to the next room. You asked me where it take, are you going to go with that? Are you going to go with that? Did I give you exactly the same thing? Would you ask me for a post-up or you asked me if it was out of the meeting? That was a close up. That was a meeting. But are you okay with the meeting? Did I give you exactly the same thing? Would you ask me for a closer or you ask me for the meeting? That was a close up. That was a meeting.

But are you okay with the meeting? I'm not. I'm not giving you exactly what you just said. You can be exactly what you do. Okay, so then don't give me this shit about you. I'm not as happy to be here as you. Have you ever been here before? Have you ever been here?

Any shit tonight? I'm just. I'm just saying. I've not given you any shit whatsoever. Okay. Is this your furniture? Oh my god. Well, it is called... It is called...

It is called producers, Chris and Chuck. No, it's called Club Random because everything in here is what didn't fit in my regular house. So it's very random. I could have thrown this stuff away. I don't even know where I am. What style is your regular house? What kind of style?

I'm a big house guy. I flip 14. What? Yep, I bought sold, remodeled, and flip 14 of them. I love that stuff. So what's your style of your home? Because I literally only walk into the massage at the fray modern.

It's, I don't like, like, French country? Well, probably, I don't know what that is, but it sounds like more of what it is. Rachel, a shabby sheet kind of a? No, not shabby, but like comfortable, like, you know, couches that are not like black leather and like chrome and all, I don't like that shit. It's a white and the chrome monochromality. It could have been made probably 100 years ago.

I love the shelves all over the house. Oh, nice. A lot of the furniture in there is Indian because I just had a piece that was Indian that fit perfectly and I wanted to model some things around it and then I met someone who had a store and they had great stuff. But it's not, you know, there's some mitchy-mitchy I don't think it should be. Look, it's... Well, when was the house built? That house was built in 1979.

1979? What was it when it was built? What was the idea when it was built? It was on Susan Day. It was a TV star of that era. And I've seen pictures of the house. It was super feminine. Oh, wow.

Oh, I had to deposify this house, like, from head to toe. Was that with a bear? Do you have a bear, like a bear rug or like a... No, not at all. But you could tell, here I always say this about my hands. Indian, you like Indian. The living room I actually worked on, and it's quite nice, although I've been changed it

in a million years, and I probably should, but I'm comfortable who cares. Are you single? Yes, of course. Still single? Yes. At 67? Why do you think I'm so happy?

It's because the Indian furniture. So the rest of the house, I always say, it's not awful, but you can just tell a woman doesn't live here. You know, it just doesn't have that pulled together final. And I kind of like it. Do you want to be with someone? No, I don't want, well, I don't want to be in love with someone.

Fred, now we're getting too personal. I can't. Too personal. Are you fucking kidding me? Like the, like the clothes cigarette. And like, but like seriously, do you not want, what do you want? Because actually, it's very important. You and I can connect on the couple things.

You're married. I'm married. You had to think about it. No, no. You're married. I'm married. You had to think about it. No, no. Wait, you didn't say yes, I'm married. What is that back to me? You hit the ball back to my court. I'm hitting the ball back to your court.

But your back to your court, what I want to know is like, you hit a lot. Like, are you? You should have hit a winner down the line. What you take on that, because you don't like death, but we're all alone. I believe we're all alone no matter when it happens, no matter what happens. We're all alone here at Club Random.

We're all alone at Club Random. There's like a, people don't know but there's pizza plexiglass between us too, because he doesn't want to get my germs. Oh yeah, you got the wrong guy there. I was never the COVID paranoid, quite the opposite. COVID paranoid.

Did you get the vaccine? I got, yes, because I had to work. I didn't want to. Okay, I didn't think I needed to. I had to. Yes, I did too. Or else I couldn't have continued my life. I couldn't have continued my life. And I don't like that gun held to my head.

But let's not get into that on this show. Yeah. Because I know why, because it's fun. That's not fun. We can go down a rabbit to hold on that stuff. All right. Would you be a lamb while I'm holding this and pour me? Oh yeah, give me some.

So that is to kill. No, I'm gonna pour your thing. No, no, no, I want some of that. It is to kill. Let me try that. Okay, so pour me like half. Okay. Yes, sir.

I know exactly, okay. See, I actually know a little over half. That's a little okay. All right, I will accept that this time. But because like, what about next time? What if I do it next time too? I might do it every time. As you get older.

Because I'm gonna get an impance. One of all, remember when we was talking about that? No. Okay, but one of the things about aging, like you said, oh, look good, good, I'm glad you think so. But everyone tells you that, you sick of hearing it? No, you never get sick of hearing that. But to do that, you have to like,

be very circumspect about how much of something like liquor you put, very little. They say if you take even one drink of liquor ever in your life life heart disease will be Inevitable. No, I'm not I'm not joking. I'm really into the health asset aspect of things But you too we for fuck if that's the case right Well, I'm definitely fucked. I mean I spent your fucked if you do this every Wednesday You do this every Wednesday. Yeah, and you have a couple clothes cigarettes and a and a and some booze

Well, I smoke more than just here. You're 67. Yeah. John Travolta's younger than you. Meaning. Meaning I'd just a fact. It's a snap of fact. Okay. But I mean, I think John Travolta looks great. But he was born looking great. That's my point. But so were you. What what are you comparing it to? The difference between John Travolta and me is that John Travolta. I think you look amazing. Thank you. But like, John Travolta had to go through some period

where he was like, oh, I'm no longer like this adonis because he was adonis. And I didn't have to go through that period because I wasn't going to begin with. So. Yeah, you're, you know. You're the, you know, it's like you never know. People wouldn't have voted for you to be the hero. That's such a great thing to say.

And you know what, you were maybe the least likely to succeed by some people's perspective, just like me. And things happened. I was not be voted to be the hero. I'm going to put that on my next billboard. Look, we got my next... We have footnotes. We got my next... I could use... Throw me a ball. But I figured out your movie.

What? Remember, the audience is the bullies. The irony is that the audience, yeah. So, I'd say we're even. Okay, we're even. All right, we'll take one more pot. We'll see if it works. Dude, you're gonna cut that out, right?

Yeah, we'll cut that out. Oh, we're cutting all of you up. Thank God. Have you ever seen this show? This character, this beard is for a character I'm playing on my new tour. Okay. So I gotta have it.

You know what, Saturday, April 22nd, I'm at the theater at MGM National Harbor in Oxon Hill, Maryland. But you didn't know that, Mr. Wise as Rockstar. Sunday, April 23rd, I'm the Durham Performing Arts Center in Durham. Saturday, May 20th at the MGM. I would go see you.

Parked. Yes, you should. No, I would because your comedy in North field Ohio. I would like to see you not break the card. The rock that's clear on here, you break it. Sunday, May 21st, Mystic Lake, Casino, and Prior Lake Minnesota. Let's go see each others.

I'll go to yours and you're gonna mine. If we play nearby, it might be a Irvine, but I'd take care of real good care of you to get you there and it'd be really great to have you host it that night. Host it? Yeah, I could do that. As long as I don't have to...

Bill, can you host the show? It's just like I'm throwing it out there. Yes, I can. Legendary. I don't know what hosting the show means. It just means going, hey guys, this is the worst band, whatever you want to say and hear where you're later and that's it. But don't they boo and free food. Don't they everything you want. Everything. Yes, right. And those funny, those funny clothes cigarettes. That's what I have plenty of those for you.

Right. That's what I need. More pot and free food. But like, but wait, when I walk out, isn't the crowd gonna boo because I'm not you? Isn't it like, oh, who's this dough? Are you, are you fishing? Oh, douchebag. No, I'm not fishing. You're a young crowd, the 20 to 30,

the vast majority of them either don't know who I am. And you are, I mean, you are a hero to these people. To you. You're speaking the truth, man, I'm telling you. Most of them either don't know who I am. And you are a hidden man. You are a hero to these people. To you. You're speaking the truth, man. I'm telling you. Most of them. No, they'll fucking trip the fuck out. They will bug out.

Literally, I'm embarrassed because I know afterwards I'm going to feel the shame of the applause from the audience being way lower than it was at the opening of the show when you just go, fuck Limp Biscuit and then we go. You're delusional. No, I'm not joking. A Limp Biscuit audience, people who paid good, hard money. These people grew up on you. To see Limp Biscuit.

They didn't even grow up. You said they're from, they're 20 to 30. They imagine when I put the band together, I'm 95, I'm 25 years old, okay? 25 years old and that's the feeling that's in this music. So these young people around that age, it kind of varies. That's the feeling they're getting from. It's timeless in that way. And so it's it's priceless that you can have it while I'm alive

and while you're here. And people love what you say. They love to hear your opinions because it gives them another fresh perspective on things because you're speaking, you're shit, you're transparent, you're truth. And William H. Cooper always said, always question everything.

I am I flatter do you think that and I hope to live up to that but I honestly don't think an audience of Gen Z and younger millennials appreciate that the way you do. So do you want to make a bet? Some of them do. And we can film it and prove it because I guess filming everything. I guess no CG and I won't make us look younger on the video because you know we might want that because we're going to look like shit. Totally. But I would like to film that and prove you wrong and have me back here and to show you that footage you go wow you said that when we first collided that's the air and debate is collision over in co-water came.

Why do I get if you're wrong? If I'm wrong, I'll do anything you'd like. Well, why didn't you say? If you want me to suck your dick, Bill? We're back to that. Would you really like me to suck your dick? No. Look at my face.

No. Like seriously, I'm suck your dick. No. Like is that. Look at my face. No. Like seriously. No. I'm suckin' your dick. No. Like is that what you want? Nope. Nope. Because you acted like that's what you think.

That was comedy. And you actually were tight ass jeans. Your dick is big and your balls are big. And you're wearing tight ass fucking jeans. I'm not gonna. Is that a 67? That's an old school thing. Because I'm wearing baggy, baggy ass shit.

I want people to see how big my dick is. But you want people to see how big yours is. Well, listen, I'm in between a thing. I'm in between a rock and a hard place here. I don't like to line, I don't like to brag. What's the guy supposed to do? But you're bragging. And you're lying that you don't like to brag. I am taking guy supposed to do? But you're bragging. I'm not saying you're lying that you don't like to brag.

I am taking the fifth, sixth, seventh, eighth, ninth, and tenth. Well, you actually gestured like, oh, I'll pull my... Yeah. What? Because it's comedy, Fred. I get you. It was comedy. I know that, and I'm rolling with you. I know.

I'm just... When I hear them go, I love it. We're riding. But here's what's cool. All right. I'm just, when I hear them go, I love it. We're right. But here's what's cool. I'm gonna do a podcast and I'm gonna do it with your God. You should. You should be under the umbrella of Club random. It's the coolest place to be. I think so.

We're aligned. Yes. You know, we're now blood brothers. Yeah. It's like we did that thing. That's the thing. The Indians did or somebody. Yeah.

But you know what, you created the greatest thing. Like this is the dream come true. You're living the ultimate dream. Well, I don't know about that. But people would think. Don't you think so? I would think people would more say that of a rock star. I would think they would more say that of you.

When they see like thousands and thousands and thousands of sea of people screaming, the kind of excitement that music invokes in people, it's not close to what comedy just doesn't do that. But you're seeing it in numbers now. Yeah, I know. I'm sure you're numbers speak louder. Yeah.

Now, would you rather have the 3D version? But I'm just saying like when you ask about, what's the 2D version, you conquer. What would people, when people look at something like what do they go, oh my God, I wish that was me. I think it's more the thing that you do. Because like I say, music just gets to people in a very primal way and a very deep way,

an emotional way. Everybody can appreciate music. I am only people with a brain. Almost ever. So like, you know, we're eliminating like 90% of the population right there. So I'm working with a much smaller group. And what you're doing is like, again,

you see people go, they're kind of like frenzied for what you are about to do as a performer. Okay, I don't really experience that. I mean, I get some wonderful receptions on the road. I was very gratified in San Francisco, which I said I was afraid they were gonna be too woke, but they were just marvelous. And I could tell.

Are you feeling my fan, boy? Man, I can tell this. Are you feeling it? I can feel yours, but. Okay, I've tried to hold back. But I'm talking about like what the crowd, you know, like you see a crowd, for example, it's bigger.

And again, they're almost in this bacchanalian frenzy, like they're holding the severed heads and, ah, ah, which, you know, I'm not saying you're suggesting. I'm going to have to severed heads. I know what you mean. I'm not saying you wouldn't suggest that. Like, I saw you at Woodstock 99. I mean, I wasn't at Woodstock 99.

I was at Woodstock 94 as a car spot. Were you really? Who was headlining? As a correspondent for J. Leno. Oh my God. The helicopter had me in and I did an interview with Crossbeast Dulles and Nash. Whoa. In 1994.

Yeah. Yes. My producer was with me on that trip. Interesting. Interesting. But the 99 one, what do you think about that? That it was like the spirit of it was so- Let's go back to yours first.

Okay, what's mine? Your Woodstock experience in that- Well, I was 13 and 69. I was a kid. I was vaguely aware of it. I was like, oh, that's so cool. I wish I was old enough to go to Woodstock. You know, that's where I was.

But it was, you know, certainly thought of in the culture at the time as this great triumph that the younger generation could get together with hundreds of thousands of them and not beat each other up. And, you know, they could shit in the mud and fucking it and everyone was cool with that. You know, that was like that era. And then, you know, like everything in the country,

it just, I mean, this country, in my view, has been on a downward trajectory since about the Kennedy assassination, you know, Vietnam, Mortar, just more cynicism, more lack of belief and the government, more tribalism. It just got, and everything is just a symptom of that, you know, of the kind of devolvment down toward less intelligent, more tribal, more hateful, you know. There's an agenda. What? I just feel like there's an agenda with all of it. You know,

it with all of it. You know, dumb it down. Dumb it down and the mass is follow and the campaign of disinformation versus misinformation. This is where I see the juxtaposition we are all in as a society. Like what's real and what's not, and will we ever decipher that? No. I mean, you have to decide what's real for you, but does anyone own the truth? No. But there used to be a consensus about a lot of stuff

that there's no consensus about now. Like, everybody has their own facts. The most glaring example, of course, is Trump winning the election or not. I mean, anyone who thinks he won the election is just, it's, again, it's religion. You want to believe that? That helps you get through the day, makes you feel better. But somewhere inside you, you know, that's not true. We have elections. You don't always win them. And that one didn't come, come up winner for him. But if you want to cling to that,

then then you're going to go along with a million other things that are just your own set of facts. It's playing on who we are as where we evolved to right now. And I could name examples like that on the left also. Crazy stuff that the left believes that it's just religion, really, because... And the only... No, they're just pulling on that string. Work string.

I don't know if they believe that do they believe it or are they pulling the strings for the people who do believe it? Yes, yes, I think, be. I think you're exactly right. I think. They know better. Right.

We saw that in the... But they're playing off the fact that people really believe that. We saw that blatantly in the recent reading of the emails of Fox News anchors, including Tucker Carlson, who said he passionately hated Trump, them saying to each other in their private texts and emails that they know he lost the election, and yet they went on TV that very night. I mean, you couldn't like exaggerate this in a screenplay and said the exact opposite. I hope somebody makes a movie of this.

Maybe you. It goes on TV and says, that is exactly what you're talking about, because they knew the audience wanted to hear Trump won. So I'm just going to say it, even though I know it's under, I mean, you could not define hypocrisy or lack of integrity any clearer than that. It's obvious, right? That is obvious. That is called getting caught red-handed. That is a smoking gun. They don't care because it's about how it makes me feel. Everything's about feeling now. Yeah. It's all relative too. But, you know, the relative builds up.

There's a majority of people feeling the same in that regard. So, where's your politics? Are you? Well, you know, that's the thing. I, you know, I, you know, I don't do this. Don't, I don't. But I know I can go there if I get your guidance through this, because this is your thing, and I'm going to be in your umbrella. I want to go there because I have a strong opinion about things. Well, just summarize it.

I don't want to. Then don't. Not on your thing right now, but we and you would do it. Absolutely. When you're not ready, y'all do it with you. Right. And this place is not supposed to be for politics. That's right.

So, yeah. No, but I want to share it with you, Right. And this place is not supposed to be for politics. That's right. So, yeah. No, but I want to share it with you. Because I really love what's happening. I love how everything happened. It's all super dope. Chris and Chuck and Jordan, it's like it made it happen. It's really cool. It's a good vibe.

I'm gonna set you back into the wild. This was super fun for me too. It's fun. It's fun. I don't think I didn't enjoy it as much as you did. Man, I really did. I already know. This is an honor.

We should try without camera, too. Sure. I'm glad that would be tight. Sweetheart. And then you can go. This place was my party house for 20 years before it was... But it's very empty now. was my party house for 20 years before it was clever.

But it's very empty now.