Club Random with Bill Maher - Sammy Hagar | Club Random w/Bill Maher

Episode Date: June 13, 2022

Bill and Sammy riff on rock and roll excess, the upbringing and the heartbreak that drove Sammy to be a rock star, the technology that would have helped Bill talk to girls when he was younger, how to ...survive fights when you’re married, Sammy and Eddie Van Halen making peace at the end, and how Quentin Tarrantino put Sammy’s tequila brand in his movie.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 I'll bill them are there he is Oh, Sammy am I supposed to get up and greet the host and I was supposed to say sit down How are you about to take a little bit of the game you've given me you deserve a rest I I whoever's gonna stand the whole time So I can feel superior to you because I know you're rich You're famous your rock star speaking of that, I always wanted to ask a rock star this question, settle a bet.
Starting point is 00:00:27 You get a lot of pussy. Because my friend says no, and I say, no, no, no, I got more pussy on the planet than anybody on the planet while I was a rock star. But I'm married now. I mean, how do you adjust from that level of rock star pussy to, I'm sure you're my best of fantastic pussy. I'm no, I'm married the best one.
Starting point is 00:00:47 That's how you adjust. Really? Yes. I've never been able to make that adjustment, but. Bill, I'm both shitting you. Let's see, obviously. It's freaking the opposite, because you don't want the girl
Starting point is 00:00:59 that gives the best blow job. You don't want the girl that gives the best pussy. You want a girl that you feel like she doesn't do this very often. Okay. Well, I could quibble with the good things there. But before we do that, that's the thing is bad pussy. Let's just get that out of the way. Well, that certainly is not true. There's no such thing as that pussy. It's all good. Well, that explains a lot about the rock star lifestyle. I've heard they like the blow jobs from the fat chicks
Starting point is 00:01:26 that like they give the best blow job or something like that. I'm not gonna get it all right. I'm not gonna get it all right now. I'm not gonna get it all right now. I feel like I turn it right now. You remember I turn her. He did an interview with Rolling Stone years ago
Starting point is 00:01:38 and he said, if you wanna catch, I you baited a trap with pussy. I'm gonna make a drink with your, oh, this is your, my second round of tequila. You know, Cabo Wabbo was my first time in 19, what was it when I made come out? You know what I thought you should name tequila?
Starting point is 00:01:55 Yellow baby. You know, because that's what you say. Explain yourself, will you? What? Explain yourself. You say it at the, it's the first word you hear. Oh, hello, baby. But it sounds like yellow.
Starting point is 00:02:09 Yellow baby. But it sounds like? Yeah. Hey, you still got the pipes. Yeah, I thought that would be a great name because then you could make it yellow. I don't want to give the bad hands. I'm full of good ideas.
Starting point is 00:02:22 I don't want to give Alex Van Halen the last living of the brothers. I don't want to give the band hands. I'm full of good ideas. I don't want to give Alex Van Han on the last living of the brothers. I don't want to give him any ideas. But why? If 5150 tequila is what's happening, you see, please code and Eddie Stripes on the bottle. It's on the right. If we had to stay together, I would have gotten him to do that. Right.
Starting point is 00:02:39 Because it was such a, I remember that album was like the album of that, you know? Yeah. The hot summer. 51, 50 time. Well, which rendering now, right? Yep. You sound like you're like a summer guy, because I know you. Oh, come on, I love the beach, I love the sun. If you can send a seven in degrees, I go to Kabul.
Starting point is 00:02:58 Right, aren't you like a mafia boss in Kabul or something? Don't you like, right? It's kind of like Bufoot Pusser. Remember that movie, Walking Tall? And it was about a, you know, a rich guy who kind of owned the town and he had to be taken out. I see that as you. Well, listen, that town's grown out of me. There's people down there that don't even know me.
Starting point is 00:03:20 Good to have you here, Sam. Thank you, well Bill. What do you mean don't know you? Well, the town's grown so much now. There's people who come down there who think George Clooney discovered Kabul. Why, why George Clooney? Because a Kabul, because he made Casamigos. He bought a house down there about 10 years ago.
Starting point is 00:03:40 That is good. That's very smooth. So wait, what are you saying that you got into the tequila thing before him? 1988, I made. Kabalov. So you were the pioneer of, isn't that interesting? No, I mean, as far as I know, even Jimmy Buffett said,
Starting point is 00:03:58 oh, no, no, no, I'm not copying you. I'm just making tequila just for my fans. And then he made Margaret Ville. Then I said, that's what I'm doing too. Right. You know. This is a better drug. Which drug are you talking about?
Starting point is 00:04:10 Well, I mean, I mean, what is he wasted a way again on Margaritaville? Oh, no, no, that's a Margarita. Margarita's the best drink on the planet. It is? Tequila is the best drink. Is that Tequila and a Margarita? Yep. Oh, okay. Well, I should make you a Margarita sometime. It's a great drink a margarita? Yep. Oh, okay.
Starting point is 00:04:25 Well, I should make you a margarita sometime. It's great to drink in a world. You know, I drink very sparingly. I save it for when I'm getting wasted with someone I really like. No, are you going to smoke your reefer? No. I watch you in Tarantino. I watch you in Tarantino.
Starting point is 00:04:39 You guys were fucked. Yes. Yes. And it was awesome. Exactly. It entertained the hell out of me. The club random, Sam. This ain't the regular world, this ain't the regular podcast world.
Starting point is 00:04:50 You notice there is a bit of a difference, but what you see on other podcasts. Come on, this is... You remember the song from Donovan, Melo Yellow, they used to smoke banana peels in the 60s. Is that right? The hippies did it.
Starting point is 00:05:03 I thought that was a joke. No. Smoking a banana peol. Some people,ies did it. I thought that was a joke. No. Smoking a banana peel. Some people, they did it. They thought they were getting high. I certainly remember it, but I was like 12 years old, not close to when I even started smoking clothes.
Starting point is 00:05:16 And I thought it was, they were kidding. Do you remember a band called Ultimate Spinach? Yeah. I think I still have LPs of there. I couldn't sing you one of their songs, but I never know. No one could. They were not good. But that was like a theme of that 60s, you know, bananas, but a banana. That was a Donovan song.
Starting point is 00:05:37 Electric bananas. Oh, yes. Be the very next crazy. Well, Donovan was fantastic. He was. Honestly, I liked Donovan better than Dylan in the beginning. Just a Dylan went on to stay great. And Donovan kind of just faded out. I don't like a lot of people better than Dylan. Although there were. Now easy now, easy bro. Okay. One of the greatest lyricists ever. Yes, history. Okay, but I don't, uh, a lyricist. Exactly. It's music. Um, I mean, look, to his credit, he proved that you don't have to sing to be a singer. I mean, he sings in his way.
Starting point is 00:06:10 I mean, I have many issues with Dylan. Of course, he is a great poet and did change the culture. And there are, I mean, look, I measure artists by like, how many, I use the old iPod. And how many songs, because I like to cultivate exactly what I like. You know, if any artist has 20 songs in my iPod, it means I that's that's a lot. That is a lot. And you do lots of people do lots of people don't.
Starting point is 00:06:39 Dylan has 20, 25. So I'll give him that. I love some of this stuff that like early 80s, which was like people hated him and it was more. It was like produced It was like, you know, producer lay lady lay right that was that was 69 national sky. Yeah That was that old I see to me. I love the change. Yeah, so doing it. Yeah, and like a rolling stone Yeah, well that was once they made it, you know Kids don't remember I I was even to remember it, you know, kids don't remember. I was even to remember, to younger remember this,
Starting point is 00:07:08 but when he went electric, that was a big cultural moment, right? Yeah. Why don't you talk about that a little? Well, because the band, what happened to the... He had the band, you know, Robbie Robinson and the band and leave on Hill.
Starting point is 00:07:21 And those guys were kind of an electric folk band, but they were bad. I love that band. For the kids. and leave on Hill, and those guys were kind of an electric folk band, but they were bad. I love that band. For the kids. Bob, Bob that boot off stage with those guys, poor guys. Carzing went electric. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:07:32 But set this in a historical moment for kids who are like, what are they talking about? The band. Kids, there was a band called The Band. Yeah. Okay, that's the first thing we got to clear up. And they were. But then, okay. So Dylan started out just playing acoustic. the band. Okay, that's the first thing we got to clear up. And they were. Okay, so Dylan
Starting point is 00:07:45 started out just playing acoustic and it was much more like folk music. His heroes were like lead go to Lee and Woody go to Lee and Woody go to Lee. I think that's horrible. I mean, that's just my opinion. I wasn't big on that. No, I mean, I guess for its moment, for its time, you know, I'm sure if I listen to Burlives long enough, I'd kill myself. But okay, then he explodes on the scene, Dylan in the early 60s, but with the folk, how many, you know, blowing in the wind and- Protests, he put it up part of that hippie movement around that thing.
Starting point is 00:08:25 And then, was before the hippies. And then in 65, he, according to the... It sells out. I mean, this is a theme we've seen in music. Well, Bob, wouldn't have he sell out? But we're not going by going electric, isn't that why they were protesting? Oh, I see what you're saying.
Starting point is 00:08:40 And they're... No, to me as an artist, I think he just made his changes and decided he wasn't... I agree, but it wasn't that their point of there. Oh, I see what you're saying. That they were saying you were a seller. Why were they booing him? Because he went electric. Is it electric? You know, somehow, you know, selling out to the man where the electricity, where were
Starting point is 00:08:56 the armashov here? No electric. What the fuck was that? Do you think you're going to get booed for doing this kind of stuff instead of doing your show? Your political and correction. Now, my politically incorrect. You know, that show went off like a...
Starting point is 00:09:08 I know, but I mean, with those fans, you know, you know how people are... Well, my show now is real time. Yeah. And it's a very different show. But did you get booed when you did that then? Of course not. Why would they get booed? Well, because people they get hung up on what you do and then they get pissed when you're trying to change.
Starting point is 00:09:23 Actually, they love this show. It's a different, somewhat overlap audience, but also a different kind of audience because it's not political. Well, I like it. That's why I came. Yes, exactly. And I said, okay, we're not talking about politics. I'm ready to go back. And it's how I am when I'm just exactly doing this. I mean, there's all my career has been an attempt to like get the conversations that we have off stage on camera. And I keep trying to get closer and closer. This is as close as I can get. You have no socks.
Starting point is 00:09:57 Well, I have some, but they didn't wear them. You have no socks and I have no agenda. Well, yes. Well, if I may say that I think I'm probably getting contact high here from this thing, but I wanted to compliment you. No, I can't. I'm a singer. I smoke it once in a while when I'm on real vacation.
Starting point is 00:10:16 For you. Right now I'm in the middle of rehearsing because I haven't showed starting on the eighth of this month. Maybe that's what fucked up Dylan's voice. Well, maybe, but no but I can't smoke him. I can smoke him. I like it. I love the way it smells, but it makes you forget shit.
Starting point is 00:10:30 What you were trying to say, but you look really healthy, Bill. Honestly, I mean, I gotta tell you, you just did a few aging well. Oh, you did because your skin looks fucking great. Really? Yeah, I mean, I'm not, no. Fucking dumb.
Starting point is 00:10:44 I think we started this conversation out. Establishing that. Why does that make me a way of shot near? Why am I always having gags in these two? Oh, William, do I love William shot? Yes, he's out there. I love him. I don't know him, but I just love him.
Starting point is 00:10:57 He's such a character. Well, we're gonna have a party for all previous club random guests, and you will meet him. Oh, please, please. Yeah. And you can meet some of the TikTok kids we have on. That's one reason we call it club random guests, and you will meet him. Oh please, please. And you can meet some of the TikTok kids we have on. That's one reason we call it club random. Not only is the furniture and the appointments,
Starting point is 00:11:11 appointments, rents. It's badass. No, it is. It's a great little club. Got a vibe. Somebody called it a man. It's not a man cave. Man caves are for a married guy with fish on the wall.
Starting point is 00:11:22 This is a night club. And the people who might sit there are rather random. But, you know, I can't deny. When I sit down with someone closer to my own age, there's just a sympathico because we live the same life. We saw the same things for 40 years that these kids didn't see.
Starting point is 00:11:42 They're wonderful kids, but they can't possibly, you know, have the understanding that we would have like almost immediately, right? Because we probably have a similar. I can tell you. What was your childhood? Was it leave it to be for like mine? Oh hell yeah, I love, but I love comedy
Starting point is 00:11:56 when I was, I always learn hardy, Abbott and Costello, because it was so funny. I was like, you know, well nowadays, you can't even say you like something like that. Exactly. Yeah, because I did. I know you two people.
Starting point is 00:12:09 It was fucking amazing. Oh, of course. I mean, I've made this point many times with people who want to get in their woke time machine and go back to when everybody, my argument to them is they just arrest everybody because everybody was in on it. Everybody was in on it. It's just where civilization was. Leave the database alone. I just say. And more to the point, if you live back then, you would have been the same asshole. Yeah. You're not superior. You came later. You're
Starting point is 00:12:39 the same asshole we all are. It's a continuum called humanity. You're more enlightened nowadays. We're all more enlightened nowadays. We're getting enlightened. But when you were talking about how your whole life you just wanted to do something that's the real you and how you really are, that's exactly what I did with my career when I left Van Halen. I said, I'm going to dress the way I dress. I'm going to say what I say. I'm going to write songs.
Starting point is 00:12:59 Everyone is right. I'm going to be me on stage, on stage and off stage. In Van Halen, on stage and off stage. And Van Hanoi would have a show, you know, we were pretty loose and jammy, but not completely, you know, we get dressed up to go on stage. You did? Yeah. I don't believe in that shit anymore. No. I just rolled the get up, go, I got a gig. Right. I go right now. I'm ready to go. Right. You know, ready to go. So what? you dressed like the temptations, I don't remember this.
Starting point is 00:13:27 Well, you had uniforms. Well, we got roadcases at full of closets. So I see, so you had like a stylist who puts you in a room. Sometimes. You know what, you know who still does that? I think the Rolling Stones. Yeah, they do.
Starting point is 00:13:39 They do, make your time. Yeah, they always have a... I love the Rolling Stones, but I just, I don't roll that way anymore. And it's so feel so comfortable. Like what you're doing, it feels so much more comfortable, yes, it is. Right. Club Randa is supported by Signal Wire.
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Starting point is 00:16:41 This is comfortable. These are easier than drinking straight to keel. The sun hasn't gone down yet, Bill. Right. Oh, I see. This is just a cocktail. It's a tangerine dream. It tastes like a cream sickle. And it's it's tangerine and cream basically in a light alcohol base 5.5 rum base. So it's like a beer. Where did you grow up? Fontana, California. Oh, Fontana. Where's that? About 60 miles from Eric Font, Kaiser Steel, Mail, Sam Bernardino, Riverside, Inland Empire. Do you remember Wayne Fontana?
Starting point is 00:17:11 Yeah, yeah. Wayne Fontana, the end of the mind. And the mind, the mind benders. Oh, and the mind, that's what it was. I think they sang the purpose of a man is to love the woman. I couldn't tell you what they did, but yeah. The purpose of a woman is to love a man. I'm older than you.
Starting point is 00:17:28 How can you remember that shit? I was like nine. That must have been. Yeah, that was like mid-60s. Yeah. But so you grew up in Fontano, and what was that, just a regular generic? Steeltown, my dad worked in Steeltown.
Starting point is 00:17:39 A steel town in California? Yeah, the cars are steel. They shut it down about 50 years ago. So you had the 2.5 children, mom, stay at home experience, dad worked at the steel mill. Yeah, but unfortunately, yeah, stopped at the tavern every night and fortunately, yeah, when I was about five years old,
Starting point is 00:18:00 they finally split up for good, my dad. Well, he got drunk, he got violent. He would beat up cops. He would be driving home. Beat up cops. Yeah. My dad was an ex-fighter. So he was a tough guy.
Starting point is 00:18:10 And so I looked up to my dad, like, well, my dad could beat up your dad. It was that kind of thing when I was a kid. And he could. But he would get pulled over by the cops and he'd just get out of the car and knock the guy out with one punch and get back in the car and drive home. And there were no repercussions.
Starting point is 00:18:24 And a small... Yeah, like two hours later, he's sitting on the couch smoking a cigarette, drinking a beer, and knock, knock, knock, five police men around there. Come on, Robert, come on out. Come on, we gotta take you to jail. They knew him. He was a small town, and I'll be sitting there
Starting point is 00:18:37 my daddy, get up and doke it out with five cops. Now they would put him in jail for like 20 years. I know. He went to road camp. And what it was just like Otis, they put him in the cell and Andy took the key and they'd let himself out later. I don't really know really what happened, be honest with you.
Starting point is 00:18:51 But he wasn't in jail with your whole childhood. No, you're quite a bit. Oh, he wasn't. He literally in jail. Yeah, my mom would, she finally like said, she finally left. He could find him. Did he get kissed?
Starting point is 00:19:02 Did he get kissed? Did he get kissed? Yeah, when I got my teenager, see, when I got to be 13 or 14, start looking in the girls and going over their house, Did you get caught? Did you get caught? Did you get caught? Did you get caught? Did you get caught? Did you get caught? Did you get caught? Did you get caught? Did you get caught? Did you get caught?
Starting point is 00:19:10 Did you get caught? Did you get caught? Did you get caught? Did you get caught? Did you get caught? Did you get caught? Did you get caught? Did you get caught?
Starting point is 00:19:18 Did you get caught? Did you get caught? Did you get caught? Did you get caught? Did you get caught? Did you get caught? Did you get caught? Did you get caught? Did you get caught? Did you get caught? Did you get caught? Did you get caught? Did you get caught? and sitting in her den, you know, like listening to records or something, her dad walks, oh, daddy, hey, want you to meet, you know, my friend,
Starting point is 00:19:28 Sammy Hagar, and he goes, hey, Gars, your father, Dave Robert, I said, yeah, he said, get the hell out of my house. Oh, Jesus. He kicked me out of the house. No kid, I'm not joking. Wow. I was so humiliated, and man, my girlfriend,
Starting point is 00:19:42 she was thinned out. And that was the end of the relationship. No, that started putting me into a downward spiral. I really started getting into, hanging out with bad kids and doing, doing, doing a lot of stuff. And I'll over you at this time, about 13 before I got a car. So that was a, yes, and you know, not to make everything like relevant to today, bigger issues, but the idea of visiting the sins of the past
Starting point is 00:20:07 onto people who had nothing to do with them, I could make a case that that is relevant to some things that are going on today. Yeah, probably. You didn't do it. You didn't do it. Your father did it. And so for you to get blamed,
Starting point is 00:20:21 must have engendered a great resentment in you. My dad is being... Because you didn't die up in a barn, that's what it came down to, he'd been in the bar with him and... But you didn't. No, I believe in individual responsibility. That's what I'm saying.
Starting point is 00:20:34 Well, I would have after way he treated me. Right. But we're individuals. Yeah. You know, we're not, we are, we belong to classes and races and colors and things, but we are individuals. This is the great lesson of your childhood.
Starting point is 00:20:52 Well, it's so, but then you got in with a bad crowd. Yeah, it was actually drove you. It was such it was a fault. I felt like a loser. I started feeling like a loser because of my dad. And the guys that would't making fun of me are giving me shit about it, where the tough guys didn't tell me,
Starting point is 00:21:09 I had some bad ass, man. You know, I know a guy that was in jail with him. Yeah, he said he was really fucking cool. So I started hanging on those guys. Crazy, it sounds, I made it out of it. Whew, but I start taking drugs and stuff, smoking weed and drinking and that. Well, not all of those things.
Starting point is 00:21:26 I did them, but back then you got caught, well, we do into jail pal. So do you remember the time, I just have to ask you this before you get to stone and don't remember anything? Oh, it's already part of it. Oh, boy. Do you remember when I was on your show politically correct? And after where you said, yeah, incorrect. You said, there's the sign right behind you. Oh, I can't see it. Turn around.
Starting point is 00:21:49 Oh, it's behind me. It's like 10 feet tall. Oh, that one. Oh, you sat next to that sign. You, you know, if you, almost like we are now. Well, I don't remember that much about except afterwards. You asked, you said, hey, man, come back to my dress room. You want some smoke some weed nothing
Starting point is 00:22:05 Really I did back then see you really like you. I didn't usually do that You took me into the dress room and you and you had a backpack or something you were whipped and everything apart And you couldn't find a joint you said you had a joint and I I didn't really want to smoke it because I don't I don't I don't do that well on weed I do but you don't want to be around me. I I Start laughing. Yeah, no, I can't deal with people. My wife and I, before I came here, she said, ask him if he remembers that, because she was there with me. And then we just said, uh, no, I don't remember that.
Starting point is 00:22:33 I remember you. It was fun. We liked you. We said, yeah, he was a cool guy, man. That's why we got together in about 28 years later. Yeah. But I'm fascinated by this turning point in your life, because, oh, again, I'm not trying to make everything
Starting point is 00:22:48 relate to what's going on, but we can't help but think these days about after the school shooting and shit. And what makes young men who feel like losers do things? And it's interesting, like, this is the only country where, like, when you feel like a loser, it's like, other countries just go hang themselves. It's like, no, I'm going to take a lot of people with me. Yeah, there's something very American about that. And I'm not saying that as a compliment. Yes, we're an exceptional country. We take people with us when we, when we go off the deep end. But I think now, part that has to do with guns,
Starting point is 00:23:26 let's not get into that debate. Of course, that's part of the equation, but just the loser part. I think in your era, that didn't end to your mind. I'm a loser and I'm gonna kill other people, right? No, not my mind. Right. But that feeling of I'm a loser,
Starting point is 00:23:43 I know that feeling too. I think one of the best things they could do for gun controllers just raised it from 18 to 21. We're not going to stop. That's a great, that's a great thing. Because those years that would are just horrible years. You're so vulnerable to being a fucking idiot because you are a fucking idiot. And you don't know and you don't have what the poet called the memory
Starting point is 00:24:05 of Outlived Sorrow. You have to outlive Sorrow once to know you're going to do it again. That's a nice line. I will steal that in the song sometime. Well, it's, I get it. That would be a great, I didn't write it. But that would be a great love song line. It is a great line. That's why I remember it. It would be like, Outlived the Sorrow. But the memory of Outlived Sorrow, you have outlive sorrow. You have to. That's something that you need in your arsenal. I remember when my first girlfriend dealt me at 17,
Starting point is 00:24:33 I was suicidal because I thought, oh, it will never be different. Once you get through it once, you go, okay, the sun does always come out tomorrow. Let's sing that one, Joey, Sam. Well, you have a couple of days, my friend. That's a long way from my 18 to 21, but yes, it does help.
Starting point is 00:24:52 That's a rough age. I think teenagers today, I can't imagine the pressure they're under with Instagram and all the stuff. Oh, I don't have followers and people. They're so cruel, they say things to you. Yes. They're snipers. Yes. They're not snipers, because they don't have followers and people. They're so cruel, they say things to you. Yes.
Starting point is 00:25:05 They're snipers. Yes. Because they don't know who to say, how you fucking ask, so you're so ugly, I can't say. Right. You know, some 14 days early. You know what I mean? Oh, and there are repercussions
Starting point is 00:25:15 that we know. There is a lot of suicide from bullying and kids who are just, I mean, just cruelty and so anxious. There's such anxiety. You know, I had anxiety going to school. It's because I was worried that I was going to get picked on because I often was. But it would be nothing like what if they could get me also when I went home on my phone
Starting point is 00:25:39 where you could never get away from it. Yeah. That, you know. No, that's true. It's rough. I can't imagine growing up in this generation with my mentality of who I am now, I'm probably who you are today.
Starting point is 00:25:53 You throw me back into this new world as a teenager like that, I was probably, I don't know if I was tough enough or if I was too sensitive, I don't know which one, but one of them, it wouldn't work. Either one of them, it just wouldn't work. I wish there was texting. I could have done so.
Starting point is 00:26:10 I was painfully, painfully shy. Couldn't talk to a girl. And if I had texting, I think I could have done a lot of damage. I think I could have like, silver tongue my way. I do it to my wife when we get in a fight. Whoa. And she's upstairs and I'm going to bed and I'm stay downstairs. I text your sweet thing, honey. I'm sorry. That I couldn't walk up like a man and
Starting point is 00:26:32 walk in that fucking bedroom and go, honey, I'm sorry. Right. Because probably she'd say, fuck you. But does it, but does it work? Yes. It's a, that's the only thing I love about texting is that it works. It shortcuts a lot of stuff. And it's so much easier to do to say, I love you to someone that attacks him when you're looking him in the face and you want to yell at him and call him names. How do you come back from fights? Like that? To me. And if I never got that in a relationship and it it's on my mind because Amber heard and Johnny Depp.
Starting point is 00:27:08 It's like, you fucking cunt. You throw a bottle at my head. You cut my finger off. You put a bottle in me. You know, this, you shitting the bed. I want to fucking fuck your skull. I want to block you in the trunk of a car. How do you have that one night?
Starting point is 00:27:29 I don't have that kind of relationship to be honest with you. I have a really wonderful. So you never get too angry. Oh, we get in fights. And my wife... Not where you say things like that. No, hell no.
Starting point is 00:27:39 I'd say I want to lock you in the trunk. No, no, no, I just say, you know what? I'd say things like, I'm sick of this shit and going the other room or something. Meaning sick of the fight, not the marathon itself. Well, I am sick of you, and you're complaining or you're demanding or whatever it is that causes the fights.
Starting point is 00:28:00 You know, that's a funny thing. I don't even know, you know what causes the fucking fights in a long term of nice shit? Look, I've been married 25, 26 years. But we've been together. So as long as you know the date of the marriage, you don't have to know how many. November 27th.
Starting point is 00:28:17 That's what the, that's the one you have to remember. So maybe it's October 22nd, but he said, no, it's November. But you know, the thing is is that is, once we get in these big fights, So maybe it's October 22nd, but he said, no, it's this November. But you know, the thing is, is once we get in these big fights and if it goes like, I go cold, I don't talk. Yeah, I don't want to talk to you. For days?
Starting point is 00:28:33 Yeah, sometimes. That's the bad ones. But then you forget what the fuck you were fighting about. And that's the craziest thing you sit there going, no, what the hell started this thing? Really? Yeah, and if you try to discuss it, she'll say, oh, well, you said, and you go, wait a minute. I didn't say it, the fight goes on again. So, you know, it's like that I believe
Starting point is 00:28:50 you just, you rise above. I'm a big elevation guy. I say, don't wander into my, don't get the therapist in there, start stirring the shit up more and say, well, right now, just say, I forgive you, move on, and it's my favorite thing in the world. In any situation.
Starting point is 00:29:05 Not bear your head in the sand. No, no, no. So what percentage of days of the year, of the 365, would you say are you in fight mode with the wife? Oh, probably. 15 or 20? 15 or 20. Yeah, we're doing good, I think.
Starting point is 00:29:20 Right. So for two to three weeks of each year, I mean to put it that way, like you would say, if somebody gave you a contract and said, look, there's going to be a, something that for 48 weeks out of the year, you're going to be very happy and you're going to be very glad that, but here's the other part of it. There's always a few doses in every deck. There's three weeks of the year, which are just going to be miserable because, of course, I know what it feels like
Starting point is 00:29:46 when you were in a relationship and you were fighting with someone, you just can't feel good about anything. Until that gets fixed, you can't find joy. No, you're getting fights, you're getting fights with your partners and your other friends. Right, but it's like you can't enjoy the ball game.
Starting point is 00:29:59 It's always sort of they're annoying at you, which sucks out loud. But three weeks out of 52, you know, yeah. If you're just listening, Sammy, what is that? The surfer. No, this I love you. I love you more. Oh, no, but what's this?
Starting point is 00:30:19 That's the... Oh, shotgun. Oh yeah, like surf, or hangin' tan. Yeah, hang tan, the shotgun. That's a Hawaiian thing. I love that. You started in the Beach Boys when? I'm sorry, I have the Beach Boys.
Starting point is 00:30:29 I love the fuck of Beach Boys. Of course. Come on, the Beach Boys. Oh, I ain't. Jimmy Buffett and I wouldn't be shit without the Beach Boys. Is that right? Kenny Chesney, any of those guys? Kenny Chesney.
Starting point is 00:30:38 Oh, Kenny Chesney got a big life-size thing, man. Big boys. He's such a big lifestyle thing. He sells out stadiums, man. Lifestyle. Yeah, but I'm saying. It's a lifestyle. Oh, I thought you meant the Beach Boys music. No, man. Big was. Big lifestyle thing. He sells out stadiums, man. Lifestyle. Yeah. But I'm saying it's a lifestyle. Oh, I thought you meant the Beach Boys music. No, no. It's a lifestyle. You don't like the music itself. Oh, I love it. Oh, yeah. Yeah. But I mean, Jimmy Buffett, you know, kind of became a lifestyle guy. It's all about this beach. And I mean,
Starting point is 00:30:58 boats about saying, you know, boats and the Caribbean and all that, right? But you were never a guy in Mexico, right? Brought it from Cabo. Right. But the Beach Boys started the lifestyle. Oh, I see what you're saying. See, they did. They were surfing this. They were talking about it,
Starting point is 00:31:13 about Beach going to Hawaii going to, you know, everything, you know. But when I think of the Beach Boys, I think of those amazing harmonies. And you were a guy, I feel like, who always had to live without the, certainly in Van Halen, you know, you didn't have the luxury of people harmonizing behind you. It was kind of all you.
Starting point is 00:31:32 Both of you. No, Michael Anthony. Oh, Michael Anthony, my partner in crime. He's in my band with a circle, my new band. Michael Anthony's voice in Van Halen was all that sound. And I'm like, right now you hear him, it's kind of like kind of a high, kind of like a trumpet kind of a guy, you know. I thought that was a...
Starting point is 00:31:49 I thought that was the guitar. Well, that was, stuff was going on in here, but Mikey was always above you. But do you have good relationships now? Above me. Mikey, that's all those guys. Best friends, Alex and I don't talk and Eddie's past. It's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's,
Starting point is 00:32:02 what about before he passed, what was it? We connected right, right the last four or five months. We were talking really. Together, oh yeah, but we were, we, we butted his heart. I know on it. But you know, that's exactly what McCartney always says about Lenin. When they always ask him about that, and of course,
Starting point is 00:32:16 it always comes up. And he says, well, the thing I feel good about is that before he went, our last few conversations were about families, baking bread, kids. So to me, I guess that is something that soothes the beetle fan. To me, it's kind of sad because it's saying, well, we who shared so much and so deeply, now the only way we can get along
Starting point is 00:32:42 is to, like, sort of just talk about trivial bullshit things that you could talk with somebody, some stranger on the subway about baking bread. That Beatles documentary thing. Yeah. That broke my heart. I couldn't even once it's the last one. Because you broke your heart, why?
Starting point is 00:32:57 I couldn't stand to see how they acted to it. John Lennon's one of my all-time artistic heroes. What were they doing? What were they doing? Oh, he was being a prick to who? To Paul. And I never respected Paul as much as John. John was being a prick to Paul.
Starting point is 00:33:13 Yeah, he wasn't going along. He was disrupting all the creative process on that last record, on that Let It Be Think. Well Paul wrote, oh, that's where I saw it. I saw it at the exact opposite. Oh, man, I thought him and Yoko were just like making it really hard for Paul to get the band to be creative together. They were button heads to me. I've said, I've been in bands all my life.
Starting point is 00:33:35 I must give the alternative view, which by the way, is Martin Lewis, who's the world's utmost expert and my friend on the Beatles, concur with this completely. We always thought at that point in the Beatles journey, 69, the end, John had already gotten on an off-harrowing, or maybe he was about to... What, you know, he was not as committed to the group as he was in the early years. He was definitely the guiding spirit and boss as he was in the early years.
Starting point is 00:34:05 He was definitely the guiding spirit and boss of the group in the early years. Then he'd lost interest, especially after Yoko. So I thought I was going to see a guy in the studio who was disaffected and disinterested and who was into Yoko, complete opposite. He totally ignores Yoko the whole time. She just sits there like a statue. He never says a single word. And what we found out, the big bottom line story
Starting point is 00:34:32 in that special is it was always Lenin and McCartney. That's what it was at the beginning. That axis, that's what it was at the end. With most rock bands, you and Eddie, whatever it is, it's this two-person axis. And it was still that. When George Harrison walks out, they completely throw him under the bus.
Starting point is 00:34:52 They don't have a... It's not one of them. It's not one of them. It's not one of them. They only have the audio of it. It's John and Paul and lunch or something. They only have the audio. And they don't say,
Starting point is 00:35:02 what can we do to get our buddy George back in the band? They go, okay, Eric Clapton, you have his number. You know, it was just... It broke my heart, I'm sorry. The treachery that I just didn't expect that. Oh, it's not treachery. Well, it's treachery. You have to be in a band to understand that.
Starting point is 00:35:20 It feels so bad. You feel like these guys are your brothers and when they stab you a little bit or... Or if you know. That's the most treacherous thing I could think of, is that they did throw a job. No, I just think Paul was really trying to write some fucking amazing songs.
Starting point is 00:35:32 And he was. Yes, he was. And I don't think John was helping him. Like I thought they would be more of a writing team. I expected John to be involved. Well, John was, that's a great part, Paul. Oh, we should do this. Oh, yeah, here, I got an idea.
Starting point is 00:35:43 But John was just kind of, again, Oh, we should do this. Oh, yeah, here, I got an idea. But John, I just kind of... Again, in the second half of the Beatles career, when they arguably did the best stuff, definitely Paul was the leader. I put this theory forward. It's been published in a summer I can't remember where. So I don't feel like I'm... And it wasn't refuted by anybody,
Starting point is 00:36:04 but who knows, it's a theory. The reason why I think the Beatles broke up is not because of Yoko, is because they had a competition, a friendly competition. And to them, the pseudombonum of that competition was to get the A side of the single. They loved singles, much more than albums. They did not put the single on the album. On the album. Yeah, of course.
Starting point is 00:36:27 Amazing albums, but the singles were not on the albums. The single was a different entity. So who got the A side of the single? To them, that was like, and at the beginning, they co-wrote the songs. And John certainly had his share. You know, he wrote most of our... He co-wrote the songs, and John certainly had his share. You know, he wrote most of...
Starting point is 00:36:46 He seemed to be coming from his... He was the, you know, that's fountain, the seed. He was more like the seed. Hey, I got this idea. You could tell. But also great. I mean, right up into the end, he wrote great songs. He did.
Starting point is 00:37:01 Just not as many in the second half. He once said, you know, Paul calls me up and says, he's got 10 new songs. Jesus, now I gotta write 10 new songs. See, he needed that pride, but he did. I mean, he's got great songs on Sergeant Pepper. I love his soul stuff. Yes.
Starting point is 00:37:18 Two, come on. But A side singles, from like mid 60s on, he never got one. I mean, imagine writing a song is greatest rubbery field forever, but the A side is penny lane. You know, you right here, the difference, there it is, there's linen,
Starting point is 00:37:33 and then there's penny lane, that's palm. Yeah, there's no question, but yeah. You write revolution, but the A side is hey, Jude. To lose that battle, I think, with something he could not keep. That's really deep shit you're doing right now. I think so, yes it is. I've been in bands my whole life.
Starting point is 00:37:50 Thank you, Vir. No, I'm telling you, no, that's deep shit because it's true. You understand that that is the thing. That is the thing between two, that's... Oh, you look at all the singles. He get back with Paul's. He did not have... Yeah, I didn't like that.
Starting point is 00:38:04 Lady Madonna. Yeah. They're all their singles from like that mid-60s paperback writer was Paul McCartney. And he just, Rain was a great song. That's the flip side of paperback writer. You know? I don't remember those single things. I was over singles by that time. I couldn't afford them or one of the other.
Starting point is 00:38:23 What do you mean? You couldn't afford them. I was over singles by that time. I could afford them or one of the other. What do you mean? You couldn't afford it. I was poor. Or I was... My ass until I fucking made it. Right.
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Starting point is 00:39:44 So, Mommy last left 13-year-old Temi Heyghar. He had had his heart broken by the father of the woman in the house. They got embarrassed. Got embarrassed, understandably. Felt like a loser. Long shot if you walking by the railroad track. I'm not leaving it out. That was a rude home to my house.
Starting point is 00:40:02 LAUGHTER Beer bottle thrown out of a window. Okay, so then when did you get in your first band? Shortly after that, it's about 15. Shortly? 15. Yeah, come here. So it kind of led to rock and roll. It did.
Starting point is 00:40:16 So, you know, I felt like somebody got on stage even if I wasn't great. You know, girls would think, oh man, you know, he's kind of cute. You look cute. You look cuter on stage than you do off stage. You know, there's something about that thing, you know, girls would think, oh man, you know, he's kind of cute. You look cute. You look cuter on stage than you do off stage. You know, there's something about that thing, you know. So my theory that rockstar'd get a lot of pussy, is the correct. It is absolutely correct. A lot of them know. Okay. You know who I think? I am going to collect five dollars in anyone though. What? Probably more than anyone. I bet you're right, Stuart, got more
Starting point is 00:40:41 pussy than anyone. I had him on real time three weeks ago. I think he's your exact age. He is. 75? I'm 75, man. He's amazing, Pacifico 75. I saw that show. I watched it.
Starting point is 00:40:53 And he was great. He was so charming. And he's still. Yeah. You know, I bet he's still good. There's a lot of us. He did not even want me to talk about it in the past because he's married now. So, you know, because I said to him, to talk about it in the past because he's married now.
Starting point is 00:41:05 So, you know, because I said to him, because I read it in his book, that he wrote in the 80s, sometimes, I bet you're more than anyone. At LaDome, there was like this private bathroom for celebrities. And he would sometimes have sex between courses. And he did not want to go into this. I mean, it was, come on, many years ago. But I understand, when were you come on, many years ago, but I understand women are sensitive. Yeah, it is.
Starting point is 00:41:26 And when I saw that between courses, I was like, okay, you know, I'm out in the 80s though. I was kidding, I bet he was getting more blessed. He didn't mean, and Mick Jagger put together. Well, he, I mean, all you guys, it's a, yes, it's a thing. I hate to even call it like that. But it's an example. It's not.
Starting point is 00:41:49 It's not. It's like sex is a real thing. People are really, you know, people are attracted to each other. It's sure it is. And it's like, it's amazing. Right. It's a beautiful thing. Oh, it sure is.
Starting point is 00:42:02 I tell my wife without sex, when I, when I, when I outlive my dick, like Willie Nelson said, when he turned, I think 80 or 75, I think it was 75, and Toby Keith said, he said, he didn't really have to do it, and said, well, it looks like I outlive my dick. And said, he wasn't interested. I'm not interested anymore.
Starting point is 00:42:20 That, that's as good as the memory of outlive, sorry. Oh, he hits right up there. That's right up there. I outlive my dick. And I tell my wife and everybody else, when I outlive my, right? Oh, yeah, it's right up there. That's right up there. I outlive. And I tell my wife and everybody else, when I outlive my dick, I don't know how it's gonna be, you know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:42:30 Because it's a beautiful thing, man. Sex is a gorgeous... I mean, can you imagine that gift that you have? It's like that's a... And also in the back of your mind, you're always kind of doing everything so that you can still have good sex. Well, I should hang off just for that.
Starting point is 00:42:45 That's just me. Okay, so, damn, what is it? Well, I wanted to ask you, what do you think? Let's examine in great detail. What it is that makes rock stars so irresistible to women. Because it's, I mean, some of them are attractive. If you're attractive, rods good looking, but that Mick Jagger is a acquired taste, you might say.
Starting point is 00:43:08 But it's something obviously way deeper. I think it's that women crave like men to be emotionally honest and men are horrible at that. But songs do it. Yeah, in songs, they're speaking the kind of emotional things that women want to hear always. Don't you think that's the root of it? Well, that's a good start. And the tight pants.
Starting point is 00:43:35 Well, but when you see a guy like Mick Jagger or myself or any performer, right? People that get on stage and perform. Some people just stand there and sing. When you see guys that move and do things, guys don't do that walking around the streets. So girls are sitting there, and I do shit that you do in the bedroom and act sexy, and you get away with it.
Starting point is 00:43:56 And be uninhibited. And not uninhibited. But women don't like about us, is that we're too cooped up. I mean, I've never had a relationship where I thought, when I thought I was being so open, it's like, what else? And there always was the complaint
Starting point is 00:44:11 that we want to somehow go deeper, this mysterious deeper region. It's like, I don't know. I've gone as deep as I can. This is me below that you found more me. And then there's more me. Beneath that is public parking. I swear, you can't get any deeper.
Starting point is 00:44:26 I don't know me deeper than this, but they just wanna, there's just this mythical place they wanna go and singers, I really do think they get you to that. They get there to that place. Even if it's bullshit, even it's like, we can do it on stage. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, you calling me alive.
Starting point is 00:44:42 I'm saying the lyrics coming from a guy who's gonna have three groupies and he's singing, you call him your life. I'm saying the lyrics coming from a guy who's gonna have three groupies and he's singing, you're the only one. They're singing goal shit lyrics. There can be that too. But I also think, male and female, we're attracted to bad boys. Like girls are attracted to bad boys a little bit.
Starting point is 00:44:59 I mean, like a, so they think maybe it might be a little more exciting. And I'm attracted sometimes to bad girls. You see a girl saying, oh, she She kind of nasty. She might be really fun Yeah, I mean, I mean, it's just it's natural Yes, and animal instincts, you know, but but we got to get off this subject bill You know why well, oh, cuz you're I mean my wife at some point is gonna say I thought you guys would talk about something We will get off it the last thing I would want to do is add to the three weeks
Starting point is 00:45:28 I would I would oh my god Sammy go four weeks out of this year with four weeks you asshole No, but no look you up. Can I ask you about Tarantino those see because that guy is my favorite director, writer of all time. Love him. And he is the craziest fucker. You guys, I mean, do you know him well? We got one reason I love doing Club Random is because I get to know people who I've
Starting point is 00:45:57 always liked. I don't have anybody here I don't like and wanted to get to know better. And he's in that category, you're in that category. We, he stuck around after the taping, we went to my house, I don't live here at Club Random. This is the Michael. Oh, yeah, no, I live next door. So we went to my other bar where I live
Starting point is 00:46:18 and you know, that lasted a lot, even longer time. He's a fascinating guy. You almost just don't wanna stop talking to him because it's like, when am I going to get him in your hands? You're ingenious, I mean, you know. First of all, come on. And he lives in Israel now, and, you know, so I took advantage. But why did he quit?
Starting point is 00:46:34 I mean, I know we don't want to talk about him on Ibo. No, he's not doing movies anymore, right? I said, you know what? This is the ongoing. It's crazy. That's not right. This is exactly, that's my point of it. This is the ongoing debate he and I have been having not right. Exactly. That's my point of view.
Starting point is 00:46:45 This is the ongoing debate he and I have been having. We had it here. We had it on real time. He says he's quitting. He says directors. Oh, if you look at the history, once they get past 60, they're no good. And I have been trying to convince him. First of all, that's other people.
Starting point is 00:47:00 Second of all, there are some who did very fine things after 60. And the thing I was really harping on when he was here is the last movie he made to me is his best. So he's on an upswing. It's a movie. I think what's upon a time in all of it. I don't see how it gets away with it, but it's unbelievable. That movie was deep, man. And it was his only movie that wasn't a revenge movie. It was a love story, even though it was between the two guys. Yeah. But it was still a love story, even though it was between the two guys. But it was still a love story.
Starting point is 00:47:26 So I feel like he's just at the beginning of a new place. And you said that to him. I was hoping on that because I don't see it like that necessarily. He's just brilliant. He's just so deep. He's like the Frank Lloyd Wright of the, I mean, he goes right down to the, you know, Frank Lloyd to be, see what kind of nails we're going to put in this thing. He got to match the, you know, the carpet, you know.
Starting point is 00:47:45 So, you know, his detail. He's got a door that's completely crooked. Yeah. This house, look at that. You don't usually see a door like that. No, you know. I saw it. Because this house was built by a student of Frank Lloyd Wright, who built this crazy,
Starting point is 00:48:01 I mean, you can't see, because it's named. You know, I'm named? No, I forgot. I can probably keep him from hiding. Half You know my name? No, I forgot. Half of it. Half of it keeps playing, maybe. Oh, I don't know. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:48:09 I don't know. Mark Mills. Oh, well, you know Arca, too. I've had both of those guys' houses, they work for Frinkwood, right? I've had a house by each one of those guys. I'm a big, big enough. So you know, and the guy Mark Mills makes doors like that. Oh, is that right?
Starting point is 00:48:19 I got one of them. That I, they tore down one of his houses and I owned and I just fucking went down there and said, I want that fucking door and they let me have it. Is that right? Yeah, it's deep. It's deep. It's gotta be him. I bet it's Mark Mills.
Starting point is 00:48:32 It's a walkthrough. I bet it's Mark Mills. You know, it probably is. Small world. That's Frank Lloyd was goofy, but he didn't do slanted doors that I remember. Right. That's Mark Mills.
Starting point is 00:48:43 Yeah. And if I smoke enough of this, it's straight. And why do you keep putting this thing out? Why do you keep taking it out? I don't, it goes out. Oh, you squeeze the enough of this problem. That's a problem with cloves, Sammy. Yeah, they don't stay lit.
Starting point is 00:48:56 This clove industry has got to get it shit together on this one issue. I'm going to run for office as a one issue candidate getting clove cigarettes to stay lit. Yes, it's a little limiting, but I think the people are ready for a one-issue candidate. What do you think? Yes, absolutely. So, crazy ass.
Starting point is 00:49:14 Crazy ass Tarantino had a movie called Grindhouse. One of the most movies he's ever made. I'm sorry. Yeah, it was a good idea. It was a good idea. But in the middle of it, some girl walks into a bar and goes, hey, I'll have a margarita. And he said, and he was a barter.
Starting point is 00:49:28 So what would you kind of tequila you want in that? She said, cobble wobble. And he said, absolutely, cobble wobble the best. And he goes and makes sure if there's a bottle, he used an abalacabal in his damn move. Is that a real one? Cobble wobble. Yes, my first tequila.
Starting point is 00:49:41 Oh, you're a real bottle one. I sold that company years ago. Right. But he used my tequila in that movie. So obviously, he was a fan of cobble wobble tequila. Oh, you're a blue model one. I saw that company years ago. Right. But he used my tequila in that movie. So obviously, he was a fan of Commonwealth tequila, which was the first premium tequila right with Patron. We came out at the same time. Patron sold for five billion, five billion, five billion. Yes. I came out at the same time with Cobb and Wildbite didn't put any money into it. I was in a businessman and I only sold for a hundred million. I heard that a hundred million. That was 13 years
Starting point is 00:50:07 ago. That's a true fact. That's a true fact. The hundred million. Usually when they talk about how much people make or how much they're and they have no idea they make it up. So I'm hearing it from the horse's mouth. Okay. A hundred million. Exactly how it worked. They said they came to my cantina and Kabul, Luca Girivolia, the owner of Campari, and his attorney, Stefano. They came with another guy too. And they said, you know, we wanna talk, you know, they sent me the email,
Starting point is 00:50:33 said, yeah, we wanna, are you for sale? I said, no, I don't wanna sell. This guy that worked for SkyVodka, who they owned, contacted me and said, they wanna buy your tequila. I said, it's not for sale. How much do I wanna buy for? He said 10 times earnings. And I said said 10 times earnings. I was making about
Starting point is 00:50:48 seven million bucks a year profit at that time for three years in a row. 6.2, 6.8, 7.3, averaged out to 6.7 million dollars for the three years. And they said, we'll give you $67 million for it. I'm by myself. I didn't have it all over. I'm just saying, what the fuck? Two days later, I said, you know what? I don't think so. I said, you know, I love this brand. I'm rich as fuck. I'm making so much money off.
Starting point is 00:51:15 And I'm a rock star already. I own everything. What am I gonna do? You're just gonna stick in the fucking bank, right? And they said, and they said, well, what would, you know, what would make you change in mind? I said, well, it's just not changing my life. It's like, I mean, my life's good.
Starting point is 00:51:29 I don't need a change. And they said, what would it take to change your life? See, you know, fuck like a hundred million dollars. And they looked at each other like this real quick. I'm sitting here and they went, okay. And I fucking fell on the floor rolling around the ground laughing. So I get the brilliant idea. Sounds like it could have got 150. Oh, fuck, probably easy. But I'm. So I get the brilliant idea. If I get caught, it got 150.
Starting point is 00:51:45 Oh, probably easy, but I'm going, I get the brilliant idea. Okay, after we start doing all the due diligence, this is a stupid, how stupid, everyone thinks of a good businessman. I said, I wanna keep 20% because I wanna sell it back to you later and they said, okay, so they gave me $80 million, right?
Starting point is 00:52:04 And then there was about three million in in the pipeline that, you know, it was, already bills coming, money coming in, you know, like we're out of these from sales. By the time they bought it back, they said they'd have to buy it back within a certain amount of time. And when they bought it back, it was only $13 million. So with the seven, I got about $97 million. Yes, in my fucking pocket. No, I doubt it.
Starting point is 00:52:29 Well, what did the state of California take? That's a bit. Between the state and the federal government. Between the state of California for $11 million. You got off easy. Yeah, I mean, and then federal, I mean. Now it's more, no, I'm talking. And look, no, obviously we need to pay taxes.
Starting point is 00:52:46 It was capital gains. I paid my capital gains 15%. But, I mean, I wouldn't say in California, I'm under tax. No, I wouldn't make that complex. If I was going to sell one of these brands of duty, I'd get to fuck out of California. It's, don't, I didn't say that.
Starting point is 00:53:05 You know, it's funny, the Republicans used to always have this talking point about, we don't want to be punishing success. And part of that is bullshit. And part of it is sort of coming true here in California. I mean, they are right up to the line of punishing. And you know, you do lose like Elon Musk, move to Texas. I mean, no, it's happening. There are people who move to Florida right in front of me.
Starting point is 00:53:27 And here's the whole thing, Bill. And I think you would agree. I love California. I love living in Laguna Beach. I love living in Mill Valley, California. I love this coastline, you know, the big, sir area. I love California. There's no place like it.
Starting point is 00:53:43 If you want to live here, you're going to have to have to pay. Now, at my age, maybe I'm going to live to be 100, which I think I am. So I got 25 more years. I couldn't spend my money. I give more weight than the government takes anyway, which is tax deductible because I have a foundation. So I think I'm happy. I already made this.
Starting point is 00:54:02 I argue if my rich friends are moving. I say, what the fuck? You guys really want to live in Texas? You know, I'm happy. I already made this, I argue with my rich friends that are moving. I say, what the fuck? You guys really want to live in Texas? You know, I love Texas. But my fans are big fans of Texas. But I don't want to live in fucking in the desert. And I'm just so touched.
Starting point is 00:54:14 There, I would be completely okay with something called a lucky tax. Because we're lucky. How's that? Oh yeah, okay. Yeah. Well, what it works is I've always believed that what makes you rich is a fluke, a fluke
Starting point is 00:54:28 of the time you live in. A baseball player can throw a ball a hundred miles an hour, can get a hundred million dollar contract. Now if you could throw a rock that fast 200 years ago, it would be worth absolutely nothing. And you can sing great, which really has no intrinsic value. Same with me, a clown, a funny clown. Okay, funny. For whatever reason, these things are prized. And so I would submit to, okay, the lucky text. My problem is when it goes to the filter, I would rather just give it, like, okay,
Starting point is 00:55:03 yeah, we're lucky. I willort a school. Not a school. A church. A cost-pittle. A church. Definitely not that. Okay, all right. But like just give it, it's more like what Andrew Yang talked about.
Starting point is 00:55:15 Just give directly the money. As opposed to like when it goes through the government law, especially now, California, it's just, there's so much red tape in bureaucracy and bullshit and pin their snouts in the trough. It doesn't make it to the... It doesn't write. It's just cruelly more bureaucracy and bullshit and rules and tell you how to live and just give them the money and say, okay, that's the lucky tax. We're lucky because what we have made
Starting point is 00:55:48 us this ridiculous money, and we're going to acknowledge that. And I want to live in California. I made it my mind. Well, what could drive me out is the fires. You can't, you you can't that is the one thing that's not negotiable. I mean yeah regulations are annoying when they're over the top and unnecessary and bureaucracy and red tape and over taxation but the thing that is the real the one that could actually drive me out is I'm not going to breathe ash if that's the permanent state. And that could be coming from this state. I don't know why there's so many fire. What do you think? Do you think that people are
Starting point is 00:56:29 setting these fires? Do you think it's arson? Do you think it's terrorism? Or do you think it's just coincident? It's drought. Oh. It's global warming. We have no water here. We have it for years. I fleshed the toilet. I peed in your toilet and I fleshed it. Okay, that's the thing. I turn on the tap every day and I'm like, where is this shit coming from? Yeah. It never rains, where are they getting it? I'm, I'm, I'm, that's why it,
Starting point is 00:56:53 I turn the faucet off in between brushing teeth. I take a shower, I soak up and I turn it back on again. Oh, well, oh yeah. No, because I can't. We've got this problem, legged. Yeah, well, no, but if everybody else did a little bit conserve it back. Okay, but there is a drought, yeah. We, but if everybody else did a little bit of conservative thing, but there
Starting point is 00:57:05 is a drought, yeah. Worldwide. It's a good drought. Well, no, it's not worldwide. Parts of the country are flooded. Well, that's true. But we are just in this horrible place, and I don't know how it...that is what I worry about most with California is something that they can't control.
Starting point is 00:57:25 I mean, if we were innovative country, like Amsterdam or some of these places that deal with extreme weather and they're just very clever about how they handle it, we're not that anymore. We're not clever. We can't get shit done. Even if we thought of the right answer, it would never get done because it would have to pass all the regulations and the bureaucracy.
Starting point is 00:57:46 I mean, they can't fucking build a railroad from Mendocino to Baker's field in this state. It's not really. America is sad. It is a sad place. It's like falling and I can't get up. We just can't do anything. We just can't get it up.
Starting point is 00:58:03 Now, that breaks my heart, too. It breaks my heart, too.'s that's a whole thing but Bill So you you're funny you have such a crazy ass sense of humor. It's so twisted. It's on it's on a fucking It's it's like thank you bro, but so have you you think about all this shit? Are you just randomly blow this shit out? What to just look like? You just randomly blow this shit out. What, to just look like I thought about anything. You know what I'm saying? The only thing I have to think about right now is I have to go,
Starting point is 00:58:29 actually go back to work. I, oh no, we have another, okay, then I go back to work. But you as, I told them when I do in the, I said, you have another guest coming after me. I do. And you're going to smoke another joiner. He just can go straight out. You have probably one with Jimmy.
Starting point is 00:58:44 No, of course. It's just two joints. Why? What the fuck kind of weed? Man, the weed I used to smoke when I was a kid, you could smoke a joiner too. The weed nowadays, you fucking roll one up. Yeah, but not when you've been smoking for 40 years.
Starting point is 00:58:57 Oh, yes, yes. Because I smoke once every 40 years. My wife and I, we had a house in Hawaii in Maui for 25, 30 years, whatever it was. And we just sold it recently. But every time we went to Maui, we'd get high there because nobody around them. All this acreage, amounting the mill in the jungle
Starting point is 00:59:16 right on a big cliff, we'd get fucked up because she knows if I get high, I am paranoid like a mother. Get the don't. Exactly. I always say it to mother. Get the don't. Exactly. I always say it to people. Pot only works on a certain percentage.
Starting point is 00:59:29 Yeah. I totally get it. I'm like fucking, what was that? Right. The phone ring. All right. That's the way I get when I eat it. That's why I don't eat it anymore.
Starting point is 00:59:37 Oh yeah. I try to. What are you in Maui? Because I go there every year to do a show on New Year's. No, we sold the house by three years ago. You know what, I do this to why. But you don't ship Gordon, but of course I've been there. Of course you have. I lived in past twin falls,
Starting point is 00:59:54 about three miles past twin falls, place called my P.O. Bay. I lived right at the end of my P.O. Bay. You drove down two miles down a dirt road and through a fucking crazy whacked out. You should come there in the years time. I do sometimes.
Starting point is 01:00:09 I used to spend there. Okay, we got to hook up on this. Oh yeah, okay. No, I love now. It's a magical place. Mad. Yeah, right? Oh, I have.
Starting point is 01:00:17 When we get high there, I have fucking shit coming in my head. I'll be going, wow. She said what, I go, I don't know what I just had. I'll be going, wow. She'll say what, I'm going. I don't know what I just had a beautiful fish. I mean, I keep shit. I'm a boy in stone, I should be stone, but I can't. I'm a singer in and I'm, and I'm, and I'm, and I'm, and I'm, I'm already dumb. No, I'm, I'm already dumb.
Starting point is 01:00:39 I'm already dumb. And I, I, I think it's fantastic that you take care of your voice for your audience. Absolutely. And you want to keep doing what you're doing. And you're still doing it. You got a million things coming up.
Starting point is 01:00:50 I do. My body, all of it, man. I work out. All right, let's go out on you, plugging your, what do you have coming up? You have like bookstores. What do you have? We've got a new book called The Cocktail Book.
Starting point is 01:01:01 I've got a... The Cocktail Book. Yeah. It's called, yeah, it's called, Sammy's Greatest Hits. Sammy's greatest hits behind the bar and the book. And in front of the bar, something like that.
Starting point is 01:01:09 Something like cocktail. Sammy's greatest cocktail. Okay, then I got a new record coming out with my band of circle, Michael Anthony Jason Bonham and Vic Johnson and it's called Crazy Times, produced by Dave Pell. Crazy Times. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:01:22 And then we got, then I got my new Can cocktails. Oh, Jesus. And then we got, and then I got my new can cocktails. Oh, Jesus. And it's beach bar cocktails with rum and sausage. Is this a tequila and? Santa. Yeah. And I eat it.
Starting point is 01:01:34 Oh, and I'm going on tour in the summer. George Thoroughgood is opening. And he's got a tour. Yes, because with George Thoroughgood, who's a party animal, you know, what bourbon with Scotch, one beer, I drink alone, you know, it'sbon with Scotch, one beer, I drink alone, you know. It's gonna be a fun tour.
Starting point is 01:01:48 All right, hello. So get the tour. Are you listening? Yeah. Write this down. There's a tour, there's a book, an album, there's a perfume jelly. No, no, no, no.
Starting point is 01:02:01 And I'm gonna be on the Bill Marshall. All right. That's it. Bill Marshall. Bill Marshall. You you. The bill, Marshall. William, you're having gotten one of my names in my shirt. This is Club random. Oh, Club random.
Starting point is 01:02:12 I'm gonna be on the bill. I'm gonna be on the bill. Oh yeah, and the one I do now. I know you are, and I am. My real job is on real time. I know you are, and I am. I know you are. I know you are.
Starting point is 01:02:20 I know you are. I've got to bring my stuff, right? Promise, you know, you're people that work for you. I've got to bring my stuff here, I promise. You know, you're people that work for you. I got to bring my stuff. I asked him to keep an eye on my phone for me, and the lady said, oh yeah, last time I was here, I left my phone, and I said, well, I'm not leaving mine with you.
Starting point is 01:02:35 Fuck, I gotta go bring my own.

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