Club Shay Shay - Best Of Nightcap - Shannon Sharpe's WILDEST & FUNNIEST dating stories
Episode Date: July 9, 2024Shannon Sharpe and Chad "Ochocinco" Johnson have plenty of stories from their illustrious NFL careers, but some of Shannon's most memorable stories from from his even more compelling career in the dat...ing world. On this Best Of Nightcap episode, Unc tells Ocho stories ranging from having an AK-47 pulled on him by a woman's boyfriend, his hilarious response to his date ordering expensive lobster, a story about farting in the bedroom too nasty for special guest Deion Sanders to hear, and the only time Shay's mother stepped in an ended a relationship for him.03:40 - Unc's first college girlfriend12:56 - "Dude came in with an AK..."21:23 - Woman pulls gun on Unc in bed43:09 - Shay's sister threw him under the bus55:18 - When Unc's date ordered lobster1:03:38 - Unc's too nasty for Coach Prime1:08:39 - Locker room code1:12:17 - Unc ain't giving out expensive watches1:15:01 - When Mama Shay put her foot down1:18:33 - Side chicks aren't off-limits1:22:48 - "She wasn't doing her nightly duties"(Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.)#Volume #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Shay Ocho love y'all.
I struggle finding a woman
through social media.
How does it work
should I just focus
on myself
and let one come to me
whoa whoa whoa
how you struggling
finding a woman
on social media
yeah what I want to know
one
you can go outside
you can find them there
you can find them
on social media
you can find women
in church
you can find women
at the library
you can find women
at the gas station
there's so many places
you can find women
I ain't gonna find one
at the library
cause I ain't going
huh you ain't going to the library at the library because I ain't going. You shouldn't.
Huh?
You ain't going to the library?
Nail now.
Okay.
But I'm talking about Buddy.
Buddy, Buddy.
Women's everywhere.
But one you got, it's so easy to find, but it's all about staying within your lane.
Stay within your salary cap.
Yeah.
Stay within your financial lane and you'll be fine. All these women on social media, those are what I like to call salary cap casualties.
You don't want the problems.
You want to stay within
and under the cap.
Sometimes below the cap.
Right now, the bangles
are $84 million below the cap.
Sometimes you got to go that route
to have an efficient team.
You know, you Joe Burrow.
Get you one that just got released.
Yeah.
Right there. Get you one that's vulnerable. Yeah, get you what it just got released yeah right there catch get you
one that's vulnerable yeah get you what get you one that's vulnerable dude just left crying and
listen you ain't got to go for no 10 you don't need a 10 you don't need a 10 you know what you
need you need a six that when she get dressed up she's a seven and a half or eight that's all you
need yeah yeah that's all you need get your. Yeah. That's all you need. Get your six when she just, you know, chilling.
But when she put her clothes on, she about a seven, eight and a half.
Boom.
You set.
You set.
You ain't got to worry about everybody trying to holler.
I mean, everybody's trying to holler at no six.
You're comfortable.
That's a lie.
It all depends.
Yeah.
It all depends, Ocho.
I can go get a woman.
I guarantee I can go get a woman right now
500 pounds and the mere fact
Shannon Sharpe would have somebody else going to want her
there ain't nobody thinking about her
that's how it operates
you think about this
and I tell the story all the time
my first college girlfriend
I watched her walk across the yard
I told my college roommate at the time
I said that's going to be my girlfriend
I'm just going to see how it play out.
She walked across from the hall
all the way back to lock it.
She walked down with herself. Ain't nobody
said a word.
I was standing
in the hall bathroom and I saw her.
I ran out there. I said, hey, what's your name?
She said such and such. I ain't going to call her name.
Say the name.
Anybody that went to Savannah State didn't know exactly what I'm talking
about.
Tasha.
Okay.
Go ahead.
I said,
uh,
what's your name?
She say,
uh,
my name is such and such,
but everybody called me this.
I said,
okay.
What you want me to call you?
She said,
you can call me,
uh,
my nickname.
I said,
okay.
I said,
you dating anybody?
She said,
no.
She said,
I'm just,
you know,
I'm here to,
you know,
get my,
get my, you know, I want to go to school. I want to graduate. You know, we started talking. She said, I got a son. I said, you dating anybody? She said, no. She said, I'm just, you know, I'm here to, you know, get my, you know, I want to go to school. I want to
graduate. You know, we started talking.
She said, I got a son. I said, okay.
They ain't got no problem. I said,
you know, hey, if I F with you, I got a son
too. You know, I'm like that. Yeah.
I'm about it. And you in
the door. You in the door.
Oh, she, hey,
she fine. So I'm saying,
hey, ain't nobody, ain't nobody said nothing. I walked'm saying, hey, ain't nobody said nothing.
I walked by in the hall.
Ain't nobody said a word to her.
So the next day, I see her in the hall.
So we start talking.
I walk into class.
Oh, wait, did you carry your books?
I ain't carry a book.
Oh, sure.
I walk into class.
I see her walking into the cafeteria.
Guys hanging on like lions on a wheel to beasts.
God damn.
Ain't nobody thought about it until they saw a shark with him.
Yeah.
I say, yeah.
Even some of my teammates.
What?
The boy trying to backdoctor?
Everybody want it with O'Shea Hayes.
They trying to backdoctor you, boy?
Ocho, what you have to understand, I'm big dog.
Yeah.
I'm the H-N on the campus.
Yeah.
I got a 300Z.
I got a brother in the NFL.
I'm wearing polo. I'm wearing I'm wearing Lee jeans
Yeah, you're that boy
Yeah, so everybody trying to beat my time
But you know, I was Usain Bolt
I laid a blistering time down
They couldn't touch me
And then you know
I said, come on man
So this is what I found out
The moment they found out Ain't didn't, ain't nobody talked to her.
I watched them.
Yeah.
I hustled her from the day I saw her.
I started, I hustled her.
I said, God dang, man.
Well, maybe everybody was scared to say something, but when they saw you say something.
So all of a sudden, now they got courage.
Now they got confidence.
Right.
Nah, but that's okay.
I said, okay.
Hey, so you know what I did, Ocho?
I said, hey, won't you come to the game?
She said, hmm.
Wait, did you give her your jersey, though?
No.
Hell, Samantha said, we have no way.
No, no, no.
I said, come to the game.
Hey, I put on a mofo show. Yeah. I put on a mo the game. Hey,
I put on a mofo show.
Yeah.
I put on a show.
Yeah, let's go.
So homecoming rolled around.
I said, my mom coming.
My sister,
because by that time we had started dating.
Hold on, hold on.
What, she got to meet mama?
She got to meet my mom.
Now, my mom, at this point in to meet my mom now my mom my mom
at this point in time
my mom had never seen me play
right
so I go tell coach
I said hey coach
my mom coming to town
blah blah blah
now I had on drove
in the middle of the night
to let my sister see
let my sister meet her
you know my sister
now you know
my sister's a good judge
so I'm gonna let
whatever buck say
that's kind of my measuring stick because she got a good judge, so I'm going to let whatever buck say. That's kind of my measuring
stick because she got a good
feel.
She's sitting up there.
When my mom came,
she's sitting next to my mom and my sister.
I show my...
Let's go, boy.
I said, come on with it.
I said, come on with it.
The thing was
ocho now prior to that nobody i ain't let nobody drive my car my i ain't never let nobody drive
my car right right so we have you you let her get said, uh, so check this out.
Uh, so we had practice.
So she got, I said, uh, can you do me a favor?
Yeah.
Uh, I said, uh, I got some laundry and I need it.
I need it washed.
I need it.
Can you do it?
She's like, yeah.
Well, she went to the laundromat for you.
Took everything.
Oh, oh, oh that's the one
oh joe check this out oh joe you know how you go to the laundry and when you come back all that
stuff all folded and yeah she had everything folded like colors like whites whites lights
and darks if i didn't know better i thought she worked in retail. Man, she had everything folded. Hey, that's the one, boy.
That is the one, boy.
You got to go back and get that.
Man, I'm 55.
That's the one, boy.
She had your clothes folded.
Whites, lights, and darks.
In college.
In college. In college.
You know what that means? But she has
structure. That's what you've been
missing. That means O'Shea gave
her a mean one the first time. That's what
it means. O'Shea gave her a mean one.
Yeah, okay, okay.
Hey, listen, I see where you're going.
I see where you're going, but I ain't trying to get
in no trouble. I'm more than a doghouse.
I know what you're talking about.
I know.
Hey, you parked that blue diamond?
Nah, there wasn't no diamonds back then.
There wasn't no diamonds back then?
Boy, I was like a truck on Red Bull all night.
Hey.
Boy, I don't say hell. Let's go. Let's say hell with you all night. Let's go. Oh shit
I like that
That's a good story
You gotta go find her man
Ocho
To be able To be between the ages of 19 and 20, 19 and 21,
I get $2 million cash money right now.
If I could just be the age 19 or 21.
The 19 to 21.
Well, what you know now.
Go back.
Boy.
But you know what,
I'm going to have to have a freshman
because I ain't got time to put no legs back together.
But I have to have.
Yo, let's get Ocho.
Ocho.
Know what I know now?
It's 19 or 21.
Yeah.
Oh my God.
Man.
Old show boy back in the day.
Listen, I know what you mean.
I haven't spent the night at a girl's house in probably 30 years.
What?
I had a bad situation.
Oh, he pulled up on you?
He pulled up on you? Oh, you pulled that scrap out of your situation. Oh, he pulled up on you? He pulled up on you?
Oh, you pulled that scrap out of you?
Oh, no.
I had two situations.
Check this out.
I had just got drafted.
This was in May of 1990.
Yeah.
And I called a young lady that I used to talk to, but I didn't mess with anymore.
So I was coming back from Denver cause I was still in school,
but I didn't want to drive home in the middle of the night and wake my
grandma up because she was going to like,
think something's wrong.
So I was like,
I called,
I said,
Hey,
you see anybody?
She's like,
no,
I ain't seeing nobody.
I say,
I don't want to wake my grandmother up.
I could have just went,
I could have went and got a hotel room for $50.
That's what I should have done.
You being fast. You being hot. No this out ocho check this out she said no you can come on over so i go over something tells me ocho i got on
shorts and a t-shirt i got a t-shirt and shorts on something tells me keep your stuff on i ain't
that night ain't nothing pop on right oh joe you ever been
sleep you feel like you can't move but you can hear everything right i felt i felt like i was
dreaming but i could hear people arguing oh and i'm like but i can't move oh you know you've been
like right right right i know i know what you're talking about. After a while, boom!
The door flops and hinges.
So you got to understand, Ocho,
your boy about to be 22.
So I'm ready.
You know what I'm saying, Ocho?
So I'm ready.
I'm primed.
I make eye contact.
Uh-huh.
Oh, bro.
It wouldn't have been good, Ocho.
What happened?
He had a couple of bodies on his resume.
So he recognized who I was.
I recognized who he was.
Yeah.
So he's like, Sharp.
I said, yeah, man.
He said, man, I love, man.
Hey, congratulations going to the Broncos, bro.
That's live.
That's live.
He said, man, you're a Savannah State boy.
I used to tell my homies, I used to tell the homies, I said, that boy Sharp, he going to the NFL.
I put my shoes on, had my socks on and everything.
Got a pat on your arm.
Check this out, Ocho.
I said, God, if you get me out of this situation, I will get back in another one.
Yeah.
Three years later, I go back to the Battle State homecoming.
I called his chest.
I said, what's going on?
I said, you know your boy.
The same girl?
No, a different one.
Different one.
No, no different one.
She said, check this out, Ocho.
I said, you know your boy in town?
She said, come on over.
Come on over.
I said, OK.
I ride with my homeboy, Bucket.
I said, Bucket, turn around, because we had just left campus.
I said, turn this thing around, Bucket.
He turn around.
We pull up.
So I said, homeboy, you know, watch.
Homeboy said, hey, go home.
Go home.
Go home.
Back to homeboy.
I said, all right.
So he get Jet Magazine.
So, you know, I got a Rolly on.
I got a Chang 84.
So, you know, you know, she's like, you know, I'm a Rolly on. I got a Chang 84. So, you know, you know, she's like,
you know, I feel good.
I feel good, Ocho.
I feel good.
So,
okay, I got my shirt.
I took my shirt off.
I see the door handle turning.
I'm like,
what the hell my homeboy thinking?
Dude came with that
thing with the AK.
And with the AK.
Now, mind you, she done
undressed. I just got
my shorts on, so I don't just came up
with my t-shirt and took my jewelry off.
My rollie, my chain.
So he look at me, I look at him.
I say, this your people, my man?
He's like, yeah.
I said, OK, my bad.
Guess what he asked me?
He said, my man, you sure?
I said, yeah.
He said, I thought so.
So I look out in the hallway.
His homeboy got the salt off.
My homeboy sitting on the couch cause I know my
homeboy would alerted me but he got
the salt off on him
he didn't say nothing
ok ok
so I get my stuff and say my bad bro
I say I ain't know I say you know me
I don't know who you are my bad
I'm at fault I'm wrong
so I get my necklace You know me. I don't know who you are. My bad. I'm at fault. I'm wrong.
So I get my necklace.
I'm shook.
I'm shook.
Yeah.
So I leave, and I'm thinking like, oh, shit.
I said, homeboy, I left my rollie in there.
He said, man, F. I said, man, you better turn this moco around.
I'm going to get my joint.
You went and got it?
Did I? Boy boy that was 50 bands
why did i hey i said my man my rolly on the dresser he said there you go my man i got it
i said never again so that's why it's been 30 years huh i i can't i can't i can't sleep i know hey for the longest time
yeah i would not go to a female's house without that thing on the table right right right right
right i say you know what just let me just look i feel comfortable in my own home or we're gonna
meet in a neutral place i said but i can't i said i can't risk it anymore i say because somebody's
gonna because they're gonna recognize who I am and they're
going to think because of who I am, I think I can run roughshod over them.
I said, it ain't even worth it.
Ocho.
I say, but I said, you got me out of that one.
Yeah.
Ain't closing my eyes at another, ain't close my eyes at another female's house.
That was it.
The dude walked in on us in 93.
That's it.
So 30 years.
And listen, I don't have a story of that magnitude or story that great.
I never had that problem.
I rarely, rarely ever go to people's houses, especially spending the night.
Because I got to be able to play my video games.
So I'm not staying at your house.
But that was a good story, boy.
Man.
And the funny thing about that story
is that happened to a lot of dudes but the outcome isn't as gracious as yours was
i believe had he not known who i was now i do i a another story i was at i had an sl
in 92 and i was in savannah so you know used to have the old pay phone
right and you know back then they had no g no gps you could punch it in and pull it up yeah so
so she told me her address and i i drove i said damn so i'm not even thinking i mean i'm on 37th
and bull if you're from savannah you know exactly what I'm talking about. And I pull in the parking lot. Pasha
had a car wash. So I pull up
there and the dude run up on
me. He said, you know what it is.
I said, my man, everything I got is in
my wallet's in the car. Everything I got
is in the car. He said, sharp.
I said, yeah, my man.
Hey, he said,
he said, bro, you in the league,
you better get a cell phone get out of here right
you ain't got to tell me no more hey but i still made that call and went to shawty's house i did
do that hey hey bro i got a friend of your call bro you ain't you ain't pass that up huh no no no
no no man you shut up man listen what there's i i Listen, I got some good stories, man, but nothing like that.
I told you, Ocho, your boy was there.
My life was in danger.
Boy, you tripping.
Ocho.
Oh, Ocho.
All they do is just tell me they have somebody, and I would have never stepped up.
Man, you know I wouldn't disrespect.
I don't think women never tell the truth.
Listen, and you just got to the league too?
You think they finna ruin that opportunity and that chance?
Yeah.
Shit.
Ruin it.
Please ruin it.
I'll thank you later.
Ruin my chances.
I'll thank you later.
But I'm going to tell you my story.
And from time to time, I'm going to share a few stories with you.
Because I got a bunch of them over my 55 years.
I got some good ones.
Not like that though.
Ocho.
That was in the early
90s. I met
this chick.
Wait a minute. What's her
name now? Give us a full story.
At black college beach.
She was fine.
She probably,
probably one 20.
She was petite,
but she had natural boobs.
Nice hair.
Yeah.
You know,
so it was a bunch of us and we were playing this game called questions
you ask somebody a question and they gotta answer with a question or they have to take a drink
so if i ask you your name you can't say ocho you gotta ask where you from or what do you have a car
how old are you so every time somebody asks you a question you can't answer it right you have a car? How old are you? So every time somebody asks you a question,
you can't answer it.
You have to respond with a question.
So we play in the game,
but I noticed,
you know,
it's some other heavyweights in the room.
So she keep asking me questions.
Now we met them at the gas station.
They was getting gas.
Me and me and my other partners,
we would,
you know,
and so,
you know,
I, I jump out the car.
We got some other heavyweights, some other NFL players.
Come see your boy.
Yeah.
I was like, okay.
But now you know, you saw how your boy, I posted a picture back,
went back to 35 years ago.
Well, you saw, you see what I'm talking about.
Yeah, you were wrong.
I told you.
Now, remember, I told you I was there when I was well.
But anyway, you know what I'm saying? So, mind you wrong, man. Now, remember, I told you I was there when I was well. But anyway, you know what I'm saying?
So, mind you, this April.
So, I've been working out.
So, you know, your boy, chill.
Yeah, yeah, you should be right.
I was talking like a Trump tax return.
You know what I'm talking about, Ocho?
Yeah, your boy betrayed it.
Your boy betrayed it.
So, you know, we talked.
You know, we exchange information
because this was like a Saturday
I'm leaving to go back
I'm leaving to go back to Savannah
Sunday
we exchange information we talking
you know hey you got somebody
no I done broke up blah blah blah
I ain't got nobody
I said okay cool I said man
so my brother said hey bro i need you
i'm having to get together i need you to come okay no problem i said look yeah um i'm gonna
bring you to my brother's place in south carolina she's like okay cool we come have a good old time
you know my brother have a pool party you know cooking skewing and everything we having a good old time you know i said okay i kind of like this mofo nice oh had a great time
when i say great great great great i'm talking about the tiger girl hey yeah right but anyway
so now it's my turn to return the flavor i'm'm going to her. I get down there.
She picks me up and said, we got to go by the hospital.
I said, what we got?
Wait, what state?
What state?
In Florida.
Hold on.
We're in Florida.
Yeah.
Oh, Miami?
Nope.
Nope.
As a matter of fact, I can't tell you because people are going to try to pinpoint everything.
And I ain't going to tell you.
But anyway.
Okay.
Okay.
Okay.
Go ahead.
Go ahead.
Go ahead.
She picks me up at the airport.
She said, we got to go by the hospital at the airport she said we got to go by the
hospital i said why we got to go by the hospital she said my sister is about to have a baby boom
no problem we go by the hospital by the time we get there sister had the baby i was like i don't
i met you so she said no she want to meet you so i go in there i meet the sister meet the meet her husband meet the baby to the day
she remembered me because i we know we were cool you know but anyway right so i'm like so
go get a hotel now mind you i'm in the state of florida big and it's a big city
remember yeah she told me she ain't got nobody i take her out of the word so i'm letting you know
you know your boy laying on this thing on a friday night you know who you know that did
that went by you know that went by five rounds you know your boy young man your boy five
i got five on it you know i what I'm saying, don't you?
Five. Five.
Like, hold on. You did like
five in three
minute intervals like me?
Or you went like five?
But I'm saying, no. That whole
day was five rounds. Because once we
went and saw a sister, you know, we got
a couple of rounds in, took a
nap, got up, got another you know, got something to eat. Came back. So, you know, we got a couple of rounds in, took a nap. Okay. Got up, got another, got another, you know, we got something to eat.
Okay.
Okay.
Okay.
So, you know, we got up the next morning.
Yeah.
I was like, okay, babe, let's go get some breakfast.
Everyone in the car bust out.
Every tie flat.
Her boyfriend done found out what hotel we at and did that to the car
who called was it it was hers
wait she had a boyfriend
you see you see what i'm talking about man and he don't put it on flash every window
man and he don't put it on flat every window if he was not there when you went he wasn't about a quarter by gotta whip him cuz that was some that was some garden tool stuff that you
did real dudes don't do no stuff like that yeah I'm real dudes don't do that but you got to stay in your place if she lied if she got nobody that ain't your fight
she she puts you she puts you in harm's way i don't know what it is oh so now i got to come
i got to who who you think got to repair everything i hope you ain't paid for everything oh joe shit me boy you you're a better
man than me for one i'm thinking about what if it didn't go that way what if it didn't go to what
if he flattened the tires what if he's waiting on you outside and you have a situation like you had
before when buddy pulled out that goddamn gun there have been many instances with with with fellas like this
where women have lies saying they ain't got nobody sometimes some of those fellas aren't even here
to tell a story i don't know what you want me to tell yo joe jealousy yeah it was it was it could
ain't no ain't no ain't no telling look she said she didn't have a boyfriend now i later found out she had broken up with the guy for like a week
or like a week that ain't no i'm just telling you because you know i read a couple of the messages
and you know i couldn't believe you did this to me and all that kind of stuff because i say you
put me in harm's way i just said the exact same thing i said you know who i am and at this time
ocho i'm just starting to become shannon sharp i say you put me in harm's way right i say you know who i am and at this time ocho i'm just starting to become shannon
sharp i say you put me in harm's way right i say this thing could have been a lot of i said this
thing could have been a lot of different ways so i was like look all you had to do is say shannon
i've just broke up with my boyfriend within a month or something like that. Cause that's still now.
Yeah.
Give me an opportunity.
I'm probably still going to make a decision.
Oh,
Joe,
that time I was living,
you know what I'm saying?
Oh,
Joe,
I was living,
living.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I was living,
living.
This joke.
And I'm put every dumb bust out.
All this was before Jasmine Sullivan came up,
bust the windows out your car.
I bust the windows.
You know what I'm saying, Ocho?
Yeah, you got to be careful.
You remember just last year?
Remember the situation where Young Bull, rest in peace, trouble, you know, proper trouble, you know, from Atlanta? Yes.
At the girl's house, the ex come over out the blue.
Ocho.
He emotionally unstable, not troubling him.
Ocho.
You know, like, you got to be careful with stuff like that.
Ocho, I was in the hotel.
I wasn't at her house.
Wait.
How you even found out what she was at?
I have no idea.
Do you know the effort that he had to put in?
Because I guess he had to ride because she had the time she lived with her sister.
He had to have
rolled by there and didn't see the car.
Now, normally, we're
creatures of habit.
Okay, he rolled by.
He know his sister was pregnant.
Carred at the hospital.
Okay, if not at the house,
where could she be?
Maybe she gave him signs that she started acting.
But I don't know, Ocho, but I'm just telling you.
Right, right, right, right.
Yeah, you got to pay attention to the signs.
The signs tell you everything.
Now he make me want, I want to even, I want him more now.
Now you can't get her back.
You're not going to get her back.
If you thought about you could could it's over for you clown
and now that i think about it you had to be in a small city you had to be in a smaller city in
florida you know why you know why i say that because he had i was in tampa go to the park
okay so stay with me now stay with me he had to go to all the hotels in the surrounding area and check
the parking lot looking for her and that's exactly how he found yeah found y'all to the one no damn
apple tag back then yeah yeah that's what he did oh he went through a lot too um so that means he
was mad he was mad he had to waste it all to find that car that's that's that that's that yeah now
he had to waste all the time to find that car that's that's that that's that yeah it's still it's still fresh a week even even a month like that i get because we went to we went to a black
college beach uh daytona black college beach week and then if you you know you went to a black
college you know anything about daytona so it was like it was like the first or second week in April. She came to my brother's place
in May.
And I went down to her in June.
So it happened very
rapidly.
Yeah.
But I don't, I'm like, bro, so now
I can't let him win.
Right. You was younger.
I was younger than right. right? I was probably 23, 24.
And you know how it is at that age.
When you're in your 20s and you're dealing with somebody and that person becomes a part of your everyday routine.
Because you don't have that much going on at that age for men or fellas it's even that much harder
to let go it's even that much harder to let go the less you have going on the more your life
is about the individual you're dealing with and the thing is that was the first as a matter of
fact that was the first time that i was i'm talking about
like i'm talking about i'm talking about i ain't got i you know i ain't talking to nobody i'm
talking about i'm scott yeah so you were good you yes yes yeah but they see she didn't give you the
same respect because things could have gone left yeah the only thing probably I probably wouldn't have went down there if I knew she had somebody.
Right. I'd still be OK. You got to come. You got to come to me.
You got to come to me. That's my situation from happening.
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Ocho.
I don't know what it is man and people tell me
bro Ocho I ain't gonna lie
my grandma and my sister
done said some prayers
for me cause ain't no way
bro if you actually knew a lot
of the stuff
Ocho I guarantee you I could write a book
and y'all like, man, up live.
Yeah, you wouldn't believe half the stories, huh?
Because people don't believe
that the dude walked in on the chopper.
I could get my homeboy a bucket
and he'll tell you verbatim what I've seen.
And when I was asleep
and I thought I had sleep paralysis
and I can hear voices
and dude kicked the door off the hinges.
But this happened
to me. That sounds like some
shit. Ocho.
I mean, flattening the tires and busting
out the windows.
I ain't gonna lie, Ocho. That's been
happened to me by five times.
Damn.
Five?
Five. You gotta stop messing with people. Ocho, how about you tell me you got a damn five five
stop messing with people
how about you tell me you got a boyfriend
or how about you tell me
you got a crazy ex-husband
I don't Ocho I'm taking people
at their word Ocho I ain't doing no
background check I'm a background check
your ass
you know women don't tell the truth
they tell little white lies it
don't never be the full truth the truth if they the women to tell you 65 70 percent of the truth
i'm and the other 30 i'm running the background check on everybody
oh joe the chat disagrees with uh would you pay to fix our car uh 17 percent i got a uh 83 and now i'm tripping yeah shit i wouldn't i wouldn't pay
for who pay for what no sir no siree and listen thing could have went south you know i could have
been out there we could have been in the car i could have been ain't no telling what he would
have done and you think i'm for the paper and you don't put me in harm's way by telling me a little
white lie instead of telling me the truth no sir matter of fact i'm surprised you kept dealing with after
that oh come on man she was bad ocho hey ocho she was bad oh
if she was that bad if she was that bad y'all would still be friends
huh if she was that bad y'all would still be friends.
If she was that bad,
y'all would still be friends.
To this day.
Okay, my bad.
Oh, that's why you didn't want to say her name.
Okay, my bad.
It happened to be one time, and we walk out, and now hold on.
Check this out, Ocho.
I go by alias, so I
don't put my real name down.
Yes.
Okay.
Same thing. Dude done drove around,
flattened all the tires, bust the windows out.
Again?
Boy, you got bad luck.
Ocho, check this out, Ocho.
Dude bamming on the dope.
How you know what room you was in?
Then I told him at the front desk.
Oh, that's
Cardinal Wu. That's Cardinal Wu.
You never give
anybody the room. No.
Ocho.
So, I'm looking at her.
I was like,
oh boy, outside.
She said,
let's go.
Go where? She said, let's go. Go where?
She said, let's go.
I said, hey, okay.
So we walk out.
Oh, I can't believe you do this to me.
I thought you and me was cool.
Ocho.
So I'm walking, Ocho.
Remember now, this probably like May.
Yeah. Now, you know, I'm'm probably so you know how i'm built at this age it's may right i've been working out three months yeah yeah yeah yeah
yeah so you ready you ready i gave old boy a look yeah this ain't what you want now she said by the time I get to my mama's house
right
and I get back
cause I'm going to eat brunch
with him
my car better be fixed
oh
but who
she talking like she Griselda Blanco
when we got back from brunch
Car was parked
In her mama's driveway
And everything was done
But who was you dating boy
Who was she
So y'all understand
Y'all talking about yeah
Unk been in some trauma
Unk been in some trauma Unk been in some trauma
So
Excuse me
If Unk ain't the most trusted
Cause they had Unk over a bad baby
Hey you got
You can't be listening to him like that man
You got to do your homework man
Man
And obviously
You can look at
I had a chick, man.
I was talking to this chick, and we were
cool. She was fine.
And I don't know what
I said.
Yes, sir.
Ocho?
She went up under a pillow?
What she had?
She put it to your head?
Come on.
What you did wrong?
Boy, you had your plug on.
I probably, Ocho, God on the truth.
I probably should have been,
like I said, my grandma and sister, I probably should have been, I probably should have been, like I said, my grandma and sister,
I probably should have been there about six times.
Ocho, we was having, Ocho, we was having a good time.
We was just joking.
And I don't even remember what I said.
Right.
What you said?
I don't even remember.
Because all I remember is that she went up on the pillow
and she put that chrome 45 to my head
you know what that remind me of
Harlem Nights
yeah
she had a real thing
oh man
you tripping man
she said
she said
Ian I ought to kill you
she said
you been effing playing with me all this time
oh
you had you a crazy one
I'm gonna let you get your ish
and you get out my effing house.
Don't call me.
Don't write me.
I got my stuff.
Did you call her back?
Hell no.
She said don't call her.
But did you at least apologize?
I don't even know what I did.
So check this out, Ocho't even know what I did so check this out Ocho Ocho I swear
I don't to this day
damn
this had to be this is like
early 2000s
12 13 years later
phone ring yeah
I'm sorry
I said who is this
she said I'm sorry
I say this
she said yeah she said I was wrong
she said I was just having a bad day
it wasn't nothing
bad bad bad day you pull a gun
out on me and you having a bad day
you having a bad day and you pull a gun you put me you having a bad day you you having a bad day and
you pull a gun you put a gun to my head that could have went off but you having a bad day
that was her hey she said you've been good she said you've been good to me she say shanna
we've been she said we've been cool for this so this this was like, we had been
fooling around for a minute, for like
a decade.
Right.
Yeah.
So she
did that.
I ain't hear from her for
like a minute.
Popped up.
She apologized. Guess what i do don't tell me you went right back i went to see it work
man i'm gone man
she put a gun to your head man god she didn't mean to
she didn't mean to come on hey the fact that you've been able to main a court remain a cordial
relationship with people that you've dated and been intimate with
even after the fact is very commendable very very very commendable because most of the time
you know things always end on bad terms and there is no you know being friends once you cross a
certain threshold it took me a while to get to that, Ochoa, though. It took me a while. It took me a while because
I was allowing these women to hold my feelings hostage. They were
going on with their lives, but I was in bondage.
So I said, I am not going to allow you to hold my feelings
hostage. I refuse to be in bondage. So I had to forgive
them. And yet it took me a while because some of
them did some things they didn't have to do you could have just I tell people all the time Ocho
I don't have bars on my house so it's not to keep you in or out you walk in the door I want you to
walk out yeah boy and so for me it took it took me a while it took me a while yeah i've had situations but
i've all because i believe ocho that i'm always gonna come out on the winning side and so when
they've done things to me i was like okay it is what it is you do you feel that's what you needed
to do but i'm gonna win right i'm gonna win yeah i've had i've had situations also with women that i've dated they ended up getting
married when they're going through hard times who you think they call well shan i'm gonna get a
divorce i say no you're not i said you better stay with that man i said you got to understand
how old you think you are you got two kids you this age i said i'll tell you what i'm gonna do
i'm gonna get you a hotel room. You stay there for a week.
Y'all figure this ish out, but you don't need to leave him.
Right.
Yeah.
Yeah.
We talked, we talked, we talked, we talked about it last night.
Now.
Yeah.
I said, who you think you about to get?
Who you think you about to get?
You and your damn little 50.
Listen. Well, reality will hit once you get out in them streets and you see what's left over.
I said, because y'all have a disagreement?
Oh, he said something that you didn't like or you don't like the way he, oh, hell no.
Y'all better solve that.
And as a matter of fact, hey, I already got it taken care of.
You ain't got to show nothing.
Everything that you need, the room and the incidentals are taken care of.
Hey, stay your ass up there.
Right, right, right.
And make sure you make the right decision now.
Yeah.
Yeah.
You make the right one.
You're going to be looking back.
You're going to be looking back mad.
Come back 10 years later.
They still married.
Thank you.
I appreciate that.
Mm-hmm.
Look.
You ought to be a therapist, man.
The way I look at it, look. You and I didn't work out.
I don't think you're a bad person.
You might have not been right for me.
I might have not been right for you, but you might
be perfect for someone else.
Yeah.
That's okay.
At the end of the day,
I want you to be happy i might not
can give you the happiness that you're looking for but that doesn't mean i don't want you to have it
and if you found it at one point in time stay there i'll say it's easy i said damn y'all
the minute of heart i thought richness and poor sickness and health and
well damn that's so y'all just talking up there in front of the man huh y'all up there in the I thought richness and poor sickness and health and well, damn.
So y'all just talking up there in front of the man, huh?
Y'all up there in the church.
Y'all just.
Yeah.
Yeah. They'd be ready to go now.
It just like any of the slightest inconvenience or things don't go well or or you do something that don't don't sit right with them.
Yeah.
Ready to go.
They ready to go.
Matter of fact, and they ready to go to somebody else that same thing yeah yeah but but you know you know like my grandma saying my grandma always told me
that you don't have to lie to you don't have to lie to a woman because she like you enough
she lied to herself for sure you don't have to lie to a woman because if she like you enough
for them red flags like six flags yeah they're going for that right colorblind for that right
yeah oh yeah when it's when it's convenient based on based on but i won't i want all the women
that i've been with and in my time i want them to find happiness it wasn't for me
you know we didn't work out but if there's anything i can do to help you and you're in a situation,
I got you. It didn't
work for me. Like I said,
even though sometimes, Ocho, it didn't end
on the best note, the best terms. We didn't
end on the best terms.
That's all right.
I mean, I
think that came from my grandmother
and my sister. Because my sister's like,
Shannon, just pray about it.
It's going to be okay.
She's like, you're still my little.
She always tells me this.
Every time I've always gone through something, a breakup,
she always reminds me who I am.
You're still Shannon Sharp.
You're still my little brother.
And you're going to be okay.
Yeah.
She's that calming voice. Because a lot of times I'm like, hey, I want to bury okay. Yeah. She's that calming voice.
Because a lot of times I'm like, hey,
I want to bury this, you know what?
Say, Shanna, what do you get out of that?
What do you get out of that?
Right.
I mean, my sister,
let me tell you what my sister did.
I was in a relationship.
My sister.
Can we get a name? Let me tell you what my sister did. My sister. Can we get a name?
Let me tell you what my sister did.
My sister really.
If you call
my sister, if you automatically
I would think my sister
would take up for me.
That's what my sister did.
When you're wrong, you're wrong now.
You got to hold you accountable.
You should leave it
because he ain't doing right so why are you gonna stay why are you gonna stay in a situation
which you're unhappy you know he makes you unhappy you're not happy but you're gonna stay why
leave and if it's me if it's meant to be y'all will be together you'll come back like a woman
what the hell you done done
what you think the girl did
left
left
you serious
look back
that's too nice in a row you done told me somebody left What? You serious? Yeah, if they look back.
Oh, man, that's too nice in a row.
You done told me somebody left me.
I don't like that now.
It's okay.
It's not the end of the world.
Ocho.
Ocho. Damn.
CBS.
CBS.
CBS let me go.
I went to Undisputed got bigger
Undisputed let me go now look at it
look at the subs I got more
subs than Undisputed
you look at the talent they got over there
I got we got a new
podcast and we got more
subs than everybody they got over there
combined so
I'm okay
I'm gonna be okay I believe in. I'm going to be okay.
I believe in me. I'm always going to bet on Black.
Yeah.
So, I don't get, you know,
when something happens, I remember
I wanted a situation, and my agent said,
hey, don't worry about it.
Don't worry about it.
Next contract, somebody else will pay for what you lost.
I don't get upset, man.
It's not the end of the world.
I'm strong.
I'm strong.
Hey, I'm born in 68.
I came from good stock, not wood stock.
You better understand where I came from and how i came to be right
damn what you don't like yeah you're a good dude man because i'm like like that that that that's
that's that's that's two times two times about oh that ain't the first that ain't the first time
that ain't the first time that That ain't the first time.
That's not the second time.
I was dating a female and we were living together.
And when I came home, she was gone.
Oh, hell no.
Oh, hell no.
Huh?
Like, that's the type of shit you see in movies, man.
Well, I guess I was living a movie then.
Hey.
Ocho, when I tell you, Ocho, listen.
When I tell people I can write a book, y'all think I'm lying.
I know y'all think I'm lying.
Hold on, man.
You came home, you came home like on some Gone Girl shit, like the movie Gone Girl.
She was gone?
Biggie, Biggo, Biggie, Biggie.
Gone.
Bye-bye Birdie.
That's off, man.
Hey, that's slightly disrespectful.
Because if you love me...
That wasn't the case.
You didn't love me anymore.
Yeah, anymore.
Will you tell me that?
If you've checked out mentally
and you stay here physically
and you're not feeling the situation we're in,
I need you to communicate.
Isn't that what women always talk about?
Women are big on communication.
Where's the communication?
Why wait until you leave
on some sucker shit
and then pack your shit and leave in
when I ain't here.
And not face the wall.
Face the wall.
Come on now.
I mean, Ocho, everybody can't handle situations.
Like, I don't know how you handle situations, but I can sit down.
I can have a conversation.
You're not happy.
You want to move on.
I'm not happy.
I want to move on.
I can have that kind of conversation,
but everybody can't have that conversation.
Everybody's not built like you or that.
Like I can't speak for you.
I'm built.
I can handle it.
But listen,
let me,
let me tell you something.
Let me tell you how I feel.
And me and you on the same page,
I was born in seven,
eight,
nine.
I was born in seven,
eight.
But one thing about it is i'll give my all
and do all i can now if you choose to lose i'd never see it as a loss i see it as one less
expense right that's it i'm doing everything so now that's somebody else's responsibility
if they want to pick up where i left off and do more, so be it.
Yeah, for sure.
And good luck.
So be it and good luck.
But I always see someone actually leaving me, well, shit, that's better for me.
I just think about how much I can save from this.
So I don't get upset.
I don't fuss and fight.
I want things a certain way.
I like people that after you've been with me for a while, you kind of understand my manner right you know what i okay shannon don't really want to talk let him be i don't want
right right something like this or shannon want something like that let me have this ready for
him i want people to like study me and have without me having to tell you no no no no i
think the best relationships are you've been with someone long enough you understand hey you know it's funny i like that you just said that like i've
been with real like so long now we starting to look alike i can start a sentence i i can start
i can start i can start a sentence and before i even finish what i'm saying she finished the
damn sentence i like but what can i and it kind of the damn sentence. I'm like, but can I?
And it kind of irked me a little bit.
Like, can I get my thoughts out?
I know you know because I'm going to increase your habit.
My routine don't change.
My routine doesn't change.
And the things that I say based on the situation, it never changes as well.
So, I start saying something and she'll finish it.
Whatever it is, I know, I know, I know.
All right, I know you know. Yeah, I want to say it though. I want to say it out. Okay. Let me say it. Whatever it was, I know, I know, I know. All right, I know you know
just what I want to say out.
Okay.
Let me say it.
Let me finish.
So, basically,
it sounds like you're irritated
because you already know
what I'm getting ready to say.
And you don't want me to say it.
Man, it's small.
Yeah, yeah.
Small little discrepancy
we be having.
You know, that starts to argue.
But it's going to happen, Ocho.
There's a woman that recorded herself refusing refusing to get out of a car because her date took her to the cheesecake factory oh what's wrong with cheesecake it's a
chain so is mastro's so is del frisco so is uh uh uh what's the uh uh what's that other one catch catch la that's
a chain wally's is a chain ruth chris is a chain joe's crab shack is a chain so let me ask you a
question have you ever had a situation what would you do now i'm oh just ocho you drive up you pull up and she's like okay hey babe we here
or you meet because until i got to la ocho i had never i had never not gone i don't know if i could
use double negative but i had always gone to the lady's home to pick her up or to her apartment
or picked her up from her parents house i'd never like and when i got there later like okay i'll
just meet you i was like and now you know
it's done okay you don't hey they don't know me like that so it's cool but before I got to LA
I would always go pick the young lady up so now you get to the state whether you pick her up or
you meet her there and she's and she gets there and she's like well I ain't getting out because
this here this is beneath me. Yeah.
For one, that is a woman that is really not interested in you in general.
That's just a woman not interested in you in general.
And most of the time, obviously, it's the era that we're in right now.
Men are being, I don't want to say used for food, but if you have to go to these high-end restaurants on the first day.
But everybody ain't got it like, don't you?
Everybody ain't making seven figures.
Everybody ain't got it like that to go drop $200, $300 on a meal.
Damn.
It makes no sense.
If you got to lead with money, if you have to lead with money, if you have to lead with money, you already know what time.
You already know what the place is. You already know what the place is.
You already know what the place is.
First of all, I'm a firm believer
in this, Ocho. If I got to borrow my
brother's car, if I got to borrow a homeboy car,
if I got to borrow money
to take somebody on a date, they not for me.
They not for me because all I
can do is this is a singular act
because I'm not going to borrow money
every time to take you somewhere. I'm not going to borrow my brother not going to borrow money every time to take you somewhere.
I'm not going to borrow my brother's or my homeboy's
car to take you somewhere. Man, Ocho,
man, look. Ocho,
I don't even want to tell you this story, Ocho.
I don't even want to tell you this story, what happened to me, Ocho.
You got to give it to me. Come on, man.
Ocho, this was in 1990.
I met this young lady
and she's so...
And she's like,
we're going to go out. I was like, okay. Now, what's your mind you know I'm only making 63.5 I got a 335 dollar uh four-door blazer payment
I think my my rent at Mill Pond in Denver I think it was about 550 plus you know I gotta you know
take you know take care of my same money home for my grandmother, my sister. I'm helping my girlfriend who's going to school.
I'm helping her.
I'm paying for her to go to school.
So I ain't got a whole lot of money, but you know what?
I say, you know what I'm going to do?
I'm going to deny myself something to get her a nice, nice little meal, you know, get
a nice little meal.
So we get there and so, you know, I'm going to order something, but I'm not going to get
what I would normally get, but I'm going to get something a little down just in case she goes up so we get there so you know
we get a little appetizer i think back then i was in the caesar salad i had never had a really
had caesar salad so i got me a little caesar salad you know i got all the caesar she got
something yeah and so the uh the server comes says, okay, you ready to order?
I'm like, yeah. So I got
something probably
cost like $30, $40.
And so Ocho, she got the menu and she's
just looking. I'm like, damn, what's she going to
order? I say,
you going to go ahead, you going to order something?
She say,
I'm trying to figure out what go
with lobster. I say condoms. I say, because if you order that,
we're going to have sex tonight. Needless to say, she didn't order that, and I never saw her again.
I put that on everything, Ocho. See, Ocho, you get me on here, Ochoa
You bet you get me on here, Ochoa
I get on here with you, man
And you have me be telling stories, man
I was supposed to take this to my grave, man
She tried to figure out what go with lobster
Condoms
Hold on
Hey, what go with lobster again?
Condoms
Cause we haven't seen if you order that lobster I ain't got bread like that, Ochoa condoms. Hey, what's going on? Condoms.
We haven't seen if you order that lobster.
I ain't got bread like that, Ocho.
I can see if I was making, if I came in, I'm a first round or second round draft pick
because back then a first round draft pick got
like a million dollars signing bonus.
Ocho, I came in, they gave me
like $22,500.
Okay.
You got to make
that stretch. When, when it, you gotta make, you gotta make,
you gotta make that.
And so when,
when,
when,
when they,
when they take the taxes out of it,
that ain't a whole lot of money,
but y'all ladies out there,
look,
I understand that you want to be treated nice,
but everybody ain't making bread like no professional athlete.
Everybody ain't got no six and no seven figure job.
Some of these dudes making 75,000,
75,000 to a dude. And and after taxes he can't be breaking
bread on no 500 meal and this is this is the funny thing this is the funny thing it's a tough
situation because there will always be men willing women will always be able to get who and what they
want but it not might be from the guy they want because there will always be a man willing to
spend the money based on what it is that women want because there will always be a man willing to spend the money based on what it is that women want because there will always be a guy willing to do it but he's trying to impress him though
yeah always always try to impress him the more money you have the easier it is to get to your
end goal that's just life this is the way it is but i tell dudes all the time dudes stay within
your salary cap and act your wage stay within your salary cap and act your wage. Stay within your salary cap and act your wage. What's for you
will be there
and as your money continues
to grow
and gets higher and higher,
the caliber of women
you want to choose,
it gets higher as well.
Like a general rule of thumb
here, Pocho.
At the end of the day,
it's all pink on the inside.
I hope you're talking
about a steak.
But anyway. Yeah, I'm talking about a steak. But anyway.
Yeah, I'm talking about a steak.
We're talking about high-end.
I'm right there with you.
I'm right there with you.
We're talking about high-end.
So, Nathaniel Ocho,
choose the woman that likes you,
not the woman you like.
If you choose the woman that likes you,
you'll be straight.
That's a good one.
Straight.
That's a good one.
That's a good one. If you got to leave with money, she don't like you.
She don't like you.
If you got to leave with money. And if she say, if you got to apply
pressure, she don't like you. Don't fall.
If you tell me, I don't
need your money. I'll make my own money.
I'm going the other way.
I done heard that lie too many times to be true.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. don't do me like that
but this is a good thing this is a good thing for women though women will never go without
because they will always be a man willing yeah always yeah always but i could like i said i i
don't mind but at the end of the day like i said i i didn't have and you know what ocho if i was
making money like i was my fourth or fifth year and she wanted to get the life to hell, maybe get to take one home.
I got. But I didn't have a bread like that at that point in time.
My focus was, OK, pay my bills, help my grandmother, you know, my mom working, but I still got to break up.
So when I when I get back and the cell phone, see,
cell phone was
probably about $4 a minute. And if you
left the city, it started roaming.
Man, Ocho.
You got to put the phone on that broken charge.
I had a cell phone bill
$1,200 one time.
Back then.
My brother called me
and said, turn it off.
Turn it off. cause back then Ocho
if you waited after I think it was after
7 o'clock the minutes were free
and then on weekend
minutes were free but man
who the hell gonna wait till after 7 o'clock
to talk to somebody or wait till damn
Friday night Saturday night Sunday
I wanna talk when I wanted to talk
6,000 people have voted Friday night, Saturday night, Sunday. I want to talk when I wanted to talk.
6,000 people have voted.
They said 53% say farting in front of your man is okay.
I need to see the age demographic.
Nope, don't try to change it.
Don't try to change it.
This is something natural.
Listen, wait, stay with me real quick.
Wait, wait.
Let me finish.
Go ahead. I'm going to let me finish chew it go ahead
I'm going to let you finish
go ahead
crime
passing gas
fraudulating
is normal
telling your spouse
they have to go to
a different room
okay my bad
going to a
completely different room
just to do
what is natural
and you got to
have your stomach hurt
because they holding holding it.
That's not right.
That is imprisonment.
Not OK.
Chewing your food is natural.
But time says someone's smacking.
I understand.
That's like nails on a chocolate.
OK, so that's natural.
Chewing food is natural.
You can do it with your mouth closed.
OK, you can go to the bathroom and fart.
Not in front of me.
But, you know, to each his own.
To each his own.
But what we're saying, you're not going to make it far in a relationship with us.
Like, you cool with a farter.
We cool.
You cool.
Well, listen, the funny thing about it, they're going to do it anyway.
They're going to do it anyway.
We weren't raised like, I'm sorry, you just said mama farted.
You just said mama farted.
I'm sure she did because I can
smell it. I can smell it.
I remember mama rest in peace.
I can smell it but she was staying.
It came from somewhere and it wasn't
me. I'm sure she did it.
Ain't no good.
I haven't
experienced that. I've never experienced that.
Knock on wood, thank you.
Because that's not going to go well.
Yeah, I never.
It happened one time.
I'm going to tell the story another day in time.
Did you fart on him?
Huh?
I mean, knowing you, was it during?
Knowing you, it was during something.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Do that. Do that. during something. Yeah. Yeah.
How did I know that?
Who that?
Who that?
Yeah, it happened.
How did I know that?
I don't know.
Hey, check this out.
Since you done got it, this is what happened.
We were having sex.
And this is an absolute true story. I put this on everything.
I was having sex with this young lady.
Hold on.
Take the whole picture.
Don't cheat me.
Yeah, don't cheat me either.
Okay.
Details.
We're having sex.
Details.
We're having sex.
Position?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
You know I'm a bad guy.
Oh, Lord Jesus.
She ain't do it, but she did.
No, she did.
Let's go, bro.
No, she did.
That is a... and what I'm
about to say is 1000%
baby. So she passed
gas. She said,
she said, excuse me. I said, that's
a door. Yes, she
passed gas.
Excuse me.
Yeah.
How she do it? Dad, dad, she said, excuse me. Yeah. How she do it?
Ty, Ty, she said, excuse me.
I said, that's all right, baby.
I generally make them shit.
Hey, she said, excuse me.
I said, that's all right, baby.
I generally make them shit.
It kept going.
I win it.
I'm a hell with it, Ty. I'm a hell with it, Ty. I'm with it.
I'm with it.
Come on, baby.
Both of y'all nasty, dog.
Hey, I swear.
I swear.
No, I know you ain't nasty.
Fist bump.
Fist bump.
No, don't do that.
Don't do that.
Y'all ain't no good.
That ain't channel.
That's not.
Don't do that.
Y'all nasty. What you want? What you, Chana, that's not, don't do that. Y'all, y'all nasty.
What you want me to, you want what you want me to say?
First of all, it's hard to look back and say, excuse me.
She just should have rolled with it.
Hey, I got to write that down there, boy.
You nasty, man.
I got to write that down.
Don't even write that down.
That's nasty, though.
Yes, sir.
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There's a song, chat. There's a song, chat.
There's a song, the beginning of a song by Bobby Womack.
Chat.
Bobby Womack.
Bobby Womack.
And he talks about what we're talking about right now.
It's called The Facts of Life.
Listen to the beginning of The Facts of Life and you'll get a better understanding on what we talk about. Bobby Womack, the facts of life. I'd never forget it. He told her, listen, he went to buy the
lady a drink. You want to come up to my room? The lady say, what you need me to come up to your room
for? You could buy me a drink. You just want to get me up to your room. Well, huh? Hello? Huh?
I'm only here for one night.
Come on now.
That's what Luther said.
You remember that song what Luther said?
Oh, yeah.
I'm only.
But don't.
Wait, I can't sing.
I forgot.
I can't sing.
You're only for one night.
That's it.
Oh, man.
It's so many good stories, man.
But that's for another day.
But see, here's the thing, Ocho.
I know you'll act
accordingly in my face yeah oh yeah when i'm not around will you still accept that drink
will you still talk as if i'm not there you see what i'm saying ocho i don't worry about you
because i i first of all i am not worried about a dude disrespecting me. And I'm not worried about her disrespecting me because I give respect.
And I wouldn't let my teammates.
Yeah, we had them bad chicks walking in and they do.
Bro, we not finna disrespect my man just because you make this and you feel you can whip him.
That's not going to happen because I'm going to be with him.
Right.
Because you wouldn't let nobody do that.
If you walked in here with your woman and dude tried to holler at her,
I already know what's going to happen.
So we're going to do this thing the same way.
That's how we're going to do it.
Able.
Oh,
Joe,
when you around me,
able one way to do things.
That's right.
Right.
And I'm going to say,
look here now.
Hey,
now,
you know,
Hey,
they're going to maneuver away,
pretend like they got to go to the bathroom because they done made eye contact.
OK, now.
It's a dirty game, man.
OK.
Dirty game.
I don't like I said, I'm just i'm just i'm just real i'm just real with it i don't i don't
like disrespect on no level right i'm not gonna let my teammates disrespect uh uh a guy just
because he's he doesn't have the money he doesn't have the cachet he doesn't have the the the name
recognition we ain't gonna do that not on my one now ocho if i didn't go out
that night if i didn't go out on a thursday night because that was really the only night i kind of
went out unless unless i had my homeboys in town my homeboys would come in that friday we go out
that saturday night but it was the same thing if i was somewhere and my teammates showed up and there
was a chick in there chicks came in there with their boyfriend, we're not finna do that.
That ain't gonna happen.
Because at the end of the day,
he's still a man now.
He's still a man. And you know a man will bow his back in front of
his lady.
Yeah.
Then what for what? Happened. We got in the brawl.
We got into a fight in
in 90, my rookie year
about a chick y'all were brawling in there about a chick go look it up damn um she must hey she
must have been bad she must have been bad to the world she was fine she was fine
you're only worth what somebody's willing to pay.
People like, man, I wouldn't pay 20 million for no house.
Okay, but somebody else did.
I wouldn't pay 2 million for a car, but somebody else will.
Worth is only determined by what someone is willing to pay for it.
That's what worth is.
You don't get to determine your worth because you don't get to pay yourself.
Hey, I'm at ESPN.
Hey, give me $40 million a year.
Hey, that sounds like ladies on IG.
Know yourself worth, girl.
Oh, I'm worth this.
I'm worth that.
None of the dude ain't willing to give it to you.
You're not.
That's so worth it.
I understand you know you're worth, baby.
You think you're worth a Birkin bag and a Cullinan and a private jet.
I get that you think you're supposed to get all of that.
But that ain't how I value you.
Yes.
So, unless, look. Now, look, I had a situation.
I was talking to this young lady and she says, I want to watch.
So, you know, I'm thinking, you know, what you want?
I want an AP.
Gil, I only got one AP.
Now, I got one AP after playing 14 years in the NFL, being a Hall of Famer, and having a 17-year career in TV.
I got one AP.
And you come in and say you want an AP.
An AP.
I say, hey, Gil, how do I see?
And she said, if you don't get it, we can't see each other no more.
Cool.
I walked right downstairs.
She already, Gil, right hand before God.
She already knew I wasn't going to get it.
Because as I'm walking down the stairs, she had an Uber out there waiting.
She already knew I wasn't going to get it.
I saw Gil. I i saw three days later guess what she
had on on ig ap somebody got it roche sharp wasn't gonna get it honestly i don't i don't i don't know
i don't know brother jalen you know um i donalen. You know? I ain't mad at him. Yeah, I mean, we can't be mad.
We got to be happy for him.
I mean, there's no point in being mad now.
The baby on the way.
You know?
I wish them nothing but the best.
One that got me too.
Nothing but the best.
One that got Shan too.
Shan would have been 22 in the NFL.
Yeah.
And what about, what about, and she look like that?
Yeah.
She, she got you hooked
Joe would've got okay. Oh, she's got no safe
And what almost had on say to hey, I have a hey, oh Joe she had me
Are you trying to get up out of there? Oh?
You're trying to get out of my I should look at my mom. You don't know big You trying to get the fuck out of there? I shook the hook out of my mouth. You don't know Big Mouth Band.
Right, right.
How they come out the water and shake that.
I shook that hook.
I shook that hook.
Went on back in the water, swam on.
I ain't biting no moto.
Yeah.
You got, hey, listen.
Listen, Unc.
The game is a game.
Now you got to understand.
You got to.
I ain't know.
Oh, she was bad.
Oh, she was bad.
I know she was.
I know she was.
That's how they catch them.
Huh?
Yeah, man.
She had evil eyes. Hey, Unc. You know she was. That's how they catch them. Huh? Yeah, man. She had evil eyes.
Hey, Unc, you know what they're playing, right?
They're playing the long game.
Yeah, man.
They're playing the long game.
Unc, I need financial security.
Huh?
I'm trying to maintain the lifestyle that I want to live.
And how am I going to afford that?
I got to, you know. Ocho. I got to you know oh this chest not checkers
man man that's the only ocho in all my life that's the only time yeah my mama has ever said
anything to me the only time yeah time. Yeah. Hmm.
I didn't know.
I didn't know until years later.
My sister told me.
Yeah.
I wonder.
I didn't know.
But I guess I had left.
I had left.
My mom and my sister was there.
Yeah.
And she came to my apartment.
Oh, come on now.
Knocked on the door.
My mom opened the door.
My mom was like, who are you?
Uh-oh.
Such and such.
My mom said, you look a little old for my son.
How old are you?
She told him.
My mom said, look here.
My son just got here. He ain't finna mess it up with you? She told him. My mom said, look here. My son just got here.
He ain't finna mess it up with you.
You get your damn ass away from my son.
So you cut off?
Cut off.
Oh.
I had to.
It broke my heart, though.
Hold on, hold on, hold on, my heart, though. Hold on.
Hold on.
Hold on.
Hold on.
Like, wait, y'all went out.
You got some first.
Oh, yeah.
Well, I was in there like section eight.
You got it.
Man, what you talking about?
I don't talk.
Did I?
Man, please.
But if not, play with me, Ochoa.
Hell, please. But if not, man, what are you talking about?
Did I?
You was in there like what?
Section 8.
Deep off of that thing.
But man, man, but there are no unwritten rules you just obviously the three the three that nobody needs to say
is obviously you don't talk about nobody wife you don't try to holler at nobody wife
and you don't talk about nobody got damn kids no no and shit and that's pretty much it yeah i mean just just the common common
yeah you know the thing was you know i will hold on i was i think it was old gills in the podcast
they were talking about um about how the situation like okay your wife is off limit and then you get
that you know you get you know you get the girl no you don't know you put you get the girl. No, you don't. I saw that. No, you get one.
Your wife is on the shelf.
Your girl is on the shelf.
Everybody else is untouchable.
Everybody else is reachable.
Everybody can be checked out.
Hey, that was a good episode.
You're lying to me.
Hey, you remember somebody said.
If you got a wife and you got a bad side chick,
and you think you're going to be able to save both of them,
no, you're not.
You're not going to save that girl, your trying to i ain't even looking at her right oh
you best believe i'm gonna i'm throwing a net out there trying to reel her in hey it was so funny
the conversation he was having right they they uh somebody said oh i see so-and-so in the stands
tonight okay which one of y'all got so-and-so here at this game? Hey, man, that was funny. Listen, but them basketball players?
They got them.
Boy, they move different, boy.
They do, but they move different.
Boy, they move different, boy.
Hey, if you tell me you talk to them, if you tell me you used to talk,
if they told me they talked to, oh, you know, I used to talk to somebody.
I took my tail and run.
I ain't got that kind of personality.
I can't fight him.
I can't fight what. I can't. I can't.
I can't fight what he can do for you.
Now, you know, back in the day, you know, your boy used to be ready to toss and drop.
But yeah, I got old now.
Oh, that ain't that ain't in me no more.
But oh, there's like, oh, yeah, you get you get your you get your you get your wife.
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, you don't.
Oh, no.
Hell no.
You get to put one on the shelf and she can't be
touched now if it could be your wife it can be your girl but you don't get to oh hell no oh no
sir i don't know what i don't know what they do that at listen for them boys vicious boy they
be vicious all they want to but i know about them boys play a
different ball game boy them zeros don't play yeah that's why i can't compete they got that
kind of they see they got that kind of money if you want to keep up with them you don't need
tracks you you need a checkbook and i ain't got that kind of checkbook oh yeah so nah nah but i
will talk to gill about that when he come back on the win. I heard y'all talking.
Y'all don't, you can't say, no, you get to save one.
Now you got to, Ocho, you got a choice.
Two people drowning.
You can only save one.
You can't save both of them.
Nah, you can't.
You can't swim back to shore with two drowning people.
Now, which one you want to put up there to make sure she's safe?
Right.
Got another one?
We coming. Yeah. We we coming i'm a rip
tie hey i don't know you but that rip curve you know that rip curve yeah yeah but that's
powerful even some of the strongest swimmers you see what you can't you got hey you just
gotta let this go with it don't swim against it because all it's going to do is tie you out
and drown you go with it it's all out a little bit and then come on back you know what the funny thing is
you know what makes it makes it even worse is there are so many so many fine i'm talking about
the finest of the finest women right how many athletes is it that really got it think about it
it's only a select few it's only a small it's only a handful of them but it's so many women
and all the women want the select few
athletes so get in the select few athletes want the women and they want the women they pick they
they pick who color it don't matter it's a certain type of a woman that an athlete really has to have
yeah and it's not it's normally skin, they got that hair,
whether it's the Halle Berry crop,
whether it's long and wavy,
they mix.
I don't know what it is. My grandma used to
say, my grandma, when I was a little boy, she said,
boy, you color struck. What she meant
by that, the red
balls,
yeah.
Women be doing that too.
Yeah.
Pretend like they sleep.
Fake it.
Keep her doing.
Oh, true story.
I broke up with my girlfriend.
Wait, wait, wait.
You broke up with her or she broke up with you?
I broke up with my girlfriend.
This was years ago.
This was probably about 25 years ago.
Every time you tell a story, it's years ago.
I'm thinking this might be recent. No, no, this ain't recent. No, probably about 25 years ago. Every time you tell a story, it's years ago. I'm thinking this might be recent.
No, no, this ain't recent.
No, this was 25 years ago. And my
sister, my sister
told my grandma, she said, Granny, you
know, Shannon and such and such not
going together. They're not together no more.
You know what my grandma said? I ain't tell you my name.
But you know what it is? You know what my grandma
said? What'd she say?
She wasn't doing her nightly duties.
Ooh. Wait a minute.
That's what my granny said. That's what my granny said.
Wait, let me sit up.
Let me get my notepad out.
What are nightly duties
so I can make sure...
You know what nightly duties are.
Everybody that's watching this knows what nightly duties are.
I need you...
Listen, I'm trying to get where you are. You have a little bit more life experience than me, so give me... Let me this know what nightly duties are i i need you listen i'm trying to get where you are you have a little bit more life experience than me so give me let me jot
down i guess she was doing like the female european common frog she was faking oh oh
with the tired potato like she was sleep oh wait y'all live together
wait wait a minute let's dive a little deeper this is a lot to unpack now
y'all live together and she wasn't doing her i got a roll i fact like i don't never check no
luggage so i'll know what you want to impact wait so now understand that the last time i checked i
saw it i saw it on uh on um murder she wrote a woman that was getting sleep every time he came
home and just to come to find out toward the end of the story, there happened to be another man.
Yeah. And that happened. That happens a lot in life.
In general, the person you with start acting funny.
And when you dive a little bit deeper, you always tend to find out the routine changes from who they used to be when you first met.
And you start
listen that because it happened to me that's how i know it it happened to me and you started acting
funny and what did i do i put on my black dickies i put on my black skull cap oh you sleep so what
i did i jumped in the car oh you sleep okay bet wait a minute how you sleep it's 8 30 okay bet will you
go ahead and get you a nice like so i i i get in the car you know i'm i gotta go you do you pi you
a pi now yeah i had to be because listen i could be honest with you because we family i could be
honest with you like i listen i get in the car with you. Like, listen, I get in the car.
I go to the house.
You know, she's staying over there at the time.
She in Carroll City.
You know, that wasn't about a 30-minute drive.
Real quick.
I jumped on the highway.
I jumped on 95. You log on.
30 minutes.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
I pull up to the house.
The car ain't in the driveway.
Wait a minute.
Wait a minute.
How the car ain't in the driveway?
But you just told me you sleep.
That's what I'm saying in my head.
I'm saying, oh, nah.
Oh, she want to play.
Bet.
I waited.
I waited about five minutes.
I called the phone back.
Oh, snap.
The phone didn't ring.
I kept calling over and over.
My, it ain't been number 30 minutes, so how you sleep already?
I ain't chilling, so i sat on the
front porch i took a picture right i took a picture at the front though like this oh oh
yeah yeah yeah hey i took a picture did you do what you did you okay i sent it to her oh but
you sleep huh okay bet hey listen and block and block the number went on about and went on about my
business in my life now guess who was trying to spin the block you know she started she started
seeing you know i thought i had a little motion my little motion was back in effect you know i
my visibility started being back popping it was too late then because railhead done came and snatched me up real quick oh man came and snatched me i'm good
i'm good i mean listen sometimes they have listen sometimes in a relationship yes sir one party
wants to move on but they don't know how to tell the other party they want to move on that's a good
one that's that's because a lot of people watching right now a lot of people watching right now i'm
gonna tell you no lie because a lot of people watching right now a lot of people watching right now i'm gonna tell you no lie because a lot of people watching right now with someone
and they don't they don't know how to break it off not only do they not only do they not want
to break it off in this economy you have someone that's helping you and taking care of you you
really don't want to lose that sense of security and help some men as well they were women yeah
they gotta stay they gotta stay with the women because you need a roof over your head but i i ain't why i like that i could never i could never let i i
can't never i could never let a woman take care of me i could never let a woman oh i'm not saying
i'm not saying take care of some men some men are some men aren't fortunate and they're in
situations where they need that roof over their head and they're dealing with someone that's able
to provide that yeah and that that's that's tough that's tough when you're somewhere you don't want to be
i know because i told you the lonely my granddad used to say boy the loneliest place in the world
is to be somewhere you're not wanting right right right and and and if you don't know you're not
wanting it's another thing to know you're not wanting right in college i remember in college
i broke up with my girl i was moping i used to work i used to have work study. And I worked for Coach Davis, rest his soul, Coach Davis.
And I used to go to his office every day.
And when I wasn't in class, I would do my homework.
If the professor would cancel class or something happened,
I would go to Coach Davis' office, get my hours in,
but I would do my homework.
A couple of days go by, he see me moping.
He's like, son, what's going on?
Coach, I broke up with my girlfriend.
I said, my girlfriend and I broke up.
He said, well, damn, son.
He said, is everything okay?
I said, coach, we were both sick.
And he looked at me.
He said, y'all were both sick.
I said, yeah, coach.
I was sick of her and she was sick of me.
Hey, that's a good one.
Let me tell you something.
Let me tell you something.
I always think about, obviously, it's okay to hurt.
It's okay to mourn.
It's okay to be sad when things don't work out.
But I tell men this all the time.
When you're moping and you're chasing, you're fighting back to get a woman back that you might have been with for a long time.
The last time, think about this.
When someone leaves you,
a woman doesn't want to be with you anymore. I always see it as one less expense. And I mean that in the most respectful way possible. I just see it as one less expense that I have to worry
about that becomes someone else's responsibility. So I've never seen who want to chase an added or extra bill. Why do you want to
do that? I see it in that way and trying to put things in a perspective in hindsight. If you have
a hundred dollars as a dude, right? If you have a hundred dollars at a dude and you lose that
hundred dollars trying to chase someone because you have to pay when, which I call a transaction,
trying to chase someone because you have to pay when which i call a transaction transaction transactional transactional yeah it doesn't it doesn't bring any value to you because it's
taking what you have bringing adding nothing to it so why is it that you why are you hurting
why are you sad and that's just a small analogy and i mean that in the most respectful way possible
it happens on a small scale and it happens on the grander scale.
Depends on how you look at it.
But you know what, Ocho, what it is?
It's kind of like for me,
and I don't want people to take this the wrong way
since I'm trying to compare a woman to sport.
But what I'm saying is that when you invest something,
when you invest, for damn the money,
when I invest my time, my energy,
my heart and soul,
like I did the sport, it hurt when you lose.
So I'm looking at it when I lose her.
I'm hurt.
You damn right I'm hurt.
Yes, I cry.
And even though I might not show it outwardly, internally, I'm in a knot.
I had a young lady tell me one time She was like You're not hurting
I said what do you mean I'm not hurting
She said because when I see you
You're not in a ball
I said is that what you want
You want me to hurt that bad
I said you want me to not be able to function
You don't want me to be able to go to work
I was like I get it
I get it yes I'm sure i've hurt you but just because
i'm not curled up in a ball because i'm not in a psych ward trust me when i say this and i say this
in all sincerity i'm hurting yeah but i've been able to compartmentalize because when you become
a when you become a professional athlete the one thing you must be able to do above all forget because obviously you don't make it to the level
that you make it as a professional athlete if you can't play you've got to be able to compartmentalize
if you cannot compartmentalize you can't play at any level in a professional sport right you've got
to be able to say okay i've got this going on being at home my wife is getting on my nerves
or my girlfriend my kids are sick my mom is not my mom or my dad there's this going on being at home. My wife is getting on my nerves or my girlfriend,
my kids are sick.
My mom is not my mom or my dad.
There's something going on.
I've got to be able to set that aside for them two and a half hours and be able to get done what I need to get done.
Because you know what?
Them 85,000 fans and my 45 teammates,
Hey,
they depended on me.
They don't want to hear nothing.
All they see is 84 in the front and sharp on the back.
And I need to get it done.
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