Club Shay Shay - Club 520 - Myles Turner on beating Jalen Brunson in Pacers-Knicks Game 7, playing with Jeff Teague

Episode Date: August 8, 2024

We’re back with Season 2, Episode 90 of Club 520 where Jeff Teague and the guys are joined by Myles Turner. From being the No. 2 overall recruit out of high school, to following in Kevin Durant’s ...footsteps at Texas, to now going into his 10th year in the NBA, Myles talks about his journey over the last decade. The guys discuss Myles getting snubbed from winning NBA Defensive Player of the Year, playing alongside Jeff Teague, beating Jalen Brunson and the New York Knicks in Game 7 at Madison Square Garden, and much more! #Volume #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:03:49 We on the road. Resort Sports World Las Vegas for having us down. You know what I'm saying? This is a great episode. We got a pace of legends to my left. Yeah, I'm about to get real disrespectful today
Starting point is 00:03:58 because I'll be having my patience fucked up and I got a patient right here with me. We're going to see what Nick's on. Yeah, we're going to see what type of time Nick's is on today. You know what it is. I'm the host. My is DJ Wells special guest to my left introduce my man's last to my far left my dog Bishop B here out the pearlies how you
Starting point is 00:04:11 what nasty cool and nasty let's get to it baby hey man look you racking up fines dog the book of T-Jar going up for Jeff but you know what I'm saying I know you out of town we ain't seen the black forces with the white lace in the miles you know what I'm saying I know how you were with the kicks have you ever seen somebody wear the all black forces with the white laces? With white laces? Nah, that's a new one for me, partner.
Starting point is 00:04:28 But I mean, you got your own swag, then roll with it. Right on, Miles. Right on, bro. He just be trying to hate on it.
Starting point is 00:04:34 You feel me? It's like, it's like he might politely rob the club. You know what I'm saying? He ain't going to hit nobody. He just going to say, please give me your money. I can never rock a shirt like Miles.
Starting point is 00:04:42 That's his swag. Like I'm too thick. That ain't for the heavy thick That ain't for the heavy That ain't for the heavy That ain't for the heavy That's what it's all about How you put it on man Ross be wearing shirts
Starting point is 00:04:51 Like that though Ross out of pocket Ross got the pants to match Miles broke it up With the jeans I too bro I can do all that All white
Starting point is 00:05:00 To my right My dog Young Nacho Young T How you up man Man I'm coolin', man We got one of my own boys He old now, shit
Starting point is 00:05:07 He makin' me feel old, but Yeah, I got my guy in the building I got these by the door I ain't gon' lie, these ones by the door I got these out here Shout out to Feature, man They hooked me up, so it's all good I see you got the Pacer colorway
Starting point is 00:05:19 What's up? Yeah, you know how I rock I'm still a Pacer at heart Nah, I'm a Hawk at heart I ain't gon' lie But I rock with the Pacers, too, though. Timberwolves, too. Hey, we're trying to get back.
Starting point is 00:05:27 Yeah, T-Wolves, I rock with y'all, too. I'm sorry. Miss, I love y'all. I apologize. It's a hometown episode. We on the road. We on a neutral side with it, man. We got a Pacers legend going on 10-year event, holding it down in the city.
Starting point is 00:05:38 Mr. Miles Turner, appreciate you sliding on this big dog. Absolutely, man. Always show love to the net, man, by way of Texas. You know, I'm going on my 10th season. And, man, I grew up there, bro. I've been in since I was a i was a teenager so uh that's always love with y'all man for real for sure man we always start to show off talking about some kicks we know you were kobe aficionado man before the wave was popular what's some of your favorite kobe's the hoop man uh some reverse branches that came out this year was tough to me because everybody had the obsession with the grinch grinch this person but then when they finally
Starting point is 00:06:02 got some of my size and 18 you know I had to jump on that right away so that was cool damn yeah you got a Chuck in 18 that's crazy my house got a plug
Starting point is 00:06:12 plenty plenty shout out man but uh yeah then them Bruce Lee joints was fire too I was in them
Starting point is 00:06:18 for a minute them Kobe A's I've been wearing the same Kobe the past three seasons bro you can fact check that nah that's what I was gonna say
Starting point is 00:06:24 you one of the people who definitely had the cradles on. Oh, man, I was going to say, you in the big three with the Bruce Lee Files on you, too. Yeah, I love the Kobes. Nah, don't gas me. Nah, bro. I don't see them. Not, too.
Starting point is 00:06:34 Don't gas me. But, nah, I love the Kobes, too. I rock with the Kobes. But I remember you used to wear KDs, too. Yeah. Yeah, coming out of Texas, KD was obviously one of my favorite players of what not. They was the most comfortable because we had a similar foot type or whatever. So they had engineered it to fit his foot, and it fit mine pretty good.
Starting point is 00:06:50 But I just started rocking with the Kobe's, man. It was the most comfortable, I guess. Facts. For sure, man. We're going to start off with the Orchards. Obviously, you went crazy in high school. So you're one of the people who kind of started the trend of the late commit to school. What made you commit to Texas?
Starting point is 00:07:03 There was a lot of reasons, man. Growing up, people always told me all the time, I didn't know who was taking offense. They said, you're a Duke guy. You're just like a Duke guy. So I took that around. I was like, oh, I want to go to Duke. I want to go to Duke. But then actually being a Texas kid and thinking about all the branding and everything that comes with it afterwards has really moved the needle for me. My mom told me literally the day before I committed, I'm not going to tell you what to do, but you do have to think about yourself. You're only going to be there for a year.
Starting point is 00:07:28 You're a Texas kid. Everybody knows what this means. They're the richest school in the world. Just consider everything. And it's really had its benefits for me, for real. For sure. Listen, I'm sure you got a little bit of love. Boy, that NIL situation in Texas,
Starting point is 00:07:41 that situation, you might have stayed a couple years, boy. How much money you think you would have got at Texas? I was a number two pick coming into, or number two player in high school,
Starting point is 00:07:52 you know, coming into it. So that obviously had a lot to do with it. You can easily get like five mil, bro. God, that easy? I think easy, bro,
Starting point is 00:07:58 with the way Texas roll, bro. Five mil in Texas, too? Yeah. They show a little love, maybe a little under the table love, but you know. Like an arch man, He ain't even play You know what I'm saying
Starting point is 00:08:07 Yeah Write that check my boy Ah meal boy I would have been filthy in school I wonder if NILs open up Like in high school for Texas Like early Cause I know in some
Starting point is 00:08:17 Some states it is Yeah Some places it is But I think it's gonna take time When you play with Texas Select That was decent You would have
Starting point is 00:08:24 They would have, they would have probably broke a bag off for sure. Yeah, that's fun, man. Yeah, that's a, that was my coming out party
Starting point is 00:08:29 because I had missed that sophomore summer, you know, that's like the big recruiting summer. I broke my ankle and they missed the entire summer. So I came back on the scene that summer.
Starting point is 00:08:37 I went crazy. Nah, I remember you played for them, bro. Yeah. Filthy. So man, look,
Starting point is 00:08:42 we all in Naptown, Babies here. How was it your first time touching down in that? You know, it was different for me yeah filthy so man look we all naptown babysitter how was it your first town first time touching down in that um you know it was different for me because dallas is so fast paced and it's come from where i've come from and then you get some more kind of like blue car like hard working city like indy um you know i just didn't know what to expect right but like immediately as soon as i touched brown bro it was love like i mean it's such a basketball state as y' know. I had never, I've obviously seen the movies and I heard about it,
Starting point is 00:09:07 but actually being there, you know, going down to IU, going to Butler, like seeing like that college basketball atmosphere, like it changed a lot of stuff for me. So I definitely fell in love with it right away, man. It was the perfect situation for me. I didn't need to be anywhere else. I needed a slow pace, like a city for me just to grow up in, as opposed to a fast pace like Miami, L.A., you know, whatever.
Starting point is 00:09:26 It was just literally an ideal situation. Boy, I tell you, you got drafted to the heat. I got drafted to Atlanta. But who was jumping? They threw me in a fire. I ain't been the same since. I can't say he play around too much. I don't start.
Starting point is 00:09:41 You got to clarify that shot. I know. Miles just said something out of pocket, too. So you're chilling. He was like, that was my coming out party. I was like, nah,. You got to clarify that shot. I know. Miles just said something out of pocket, too. That's how you chill. He was like, that was my coming out party. I was like, nah, we're going to let that ride.
Starting point is 00:09:49 See, I ain't on that today. I'm chilling. I'm chilling. We ain't on it. Oh, man. That's going to be rocking. Bet. I ain't going to.
Starting point is 00:09:58 Bullshit, man. I wouldn't try to interrupt. You know, I had this good speech. I wouldn't try to ruin it, bro. That's fine, man. It's loud. You're right. You're right. He was, you know, I had this good speech. I wasn't trying to, you know, I ruined it, bro. That's fine, man. It's loud. You're right.
Starting point is 00:10:07 You're right. Now, did you see the cornfields when you were flying in, though? I definitely drove out to them. I ain't never, like, just, like, I guess I wasn't paying attention. But it do look crazy, like, nowadays, like, looking over at this. Yeah. Like, the weird little, like, alien shit they be talking about with it. Damn, they be talking about that?
Starting point is 00:10:22 They be talking about all the conspiracies and shit. I don't know. I be on TikTok and shit. Oh, shit. I might have to go back to that. Hey. I don't know about that. I got different aliens down there.
Starting point is 00:10:35 My bad, y'all. Hey, 414, it's all love with your boy. Hey, man, I got to talk about the first time y'all meet, man. Y'all, as a Pacers fan, y'all was one of the most talented rosters that pissed me off as a Pacers fan I still love y'all true but y'all had us fucked up but I understand why but I want to hear y'all first interaction man now so I knew Miles from um Andy Miller okay so when I came in JR and Miles had kind of already knew each other so he introduced us and I was I was taken back because we started scrimmaging hooping I'm like damn this motherfucking can do everything and I didn't know hooping. I'm like, damn, this motherfucker can do everything. And I didn't know.
Starting point is 00:11:05 You know what I mean? I'm like, damn, he can drill. He can shoot. He got bounce. Like, what the hell? I was like, oh, he the best player on the team. Like, to me, I'm like, he going to be the best player. So I just, I'm a point guard.
Starting point is 00:11:15 I go to the big man. I start talking to him. I'm like, oh, we going to do this pick and roll. Like, we going to pick and roll to death. And that's just kind of how we built our relationship. Hell yeah, bro. That's just like that, bro. Because like, Teague like instilled a lot of confidence in me, bro.
Starting point is 00:11:26 Like, my first, like, or I guess my year. My second year, I saw these past couple years, like, my first, like, real, like, great year. You know, rookie year, I was getting my feet wet. Second year, I really started to come out. But, yeah, bro, I just, I didn't really know what my game was at the time. Like, I knew what I was good at, but I was still trying to, like, kind of trying to fit the mold of the NBA game as opposed to making people fit around me. And we had that pick and pop shit going, bro. Yeah, for sure.
Starting point is 00:11:48 It was so quick, like getting downhill, like the defender had to make a decision. So our chemistry just like was like rode right away. Nah, for sure. That's why when I see you play now, like how y'all play spreading the floor, I'm like, damn, if Nate would have just let us play. That first game, the Army. Nah, he had like 35 against Dallas. You had the fake spin.
Starting point is 00:12:09 I was like, nah, he going to be cold. You might got you one. Nah, I do. I said he cold. I remember him and Cat was very similar. I was like, damn, when I first seen him, when I first seen Cat, I'm like, yo, Miles played with y'all very, very similar. You just got more freedom, Cat. I'm like, Miles ain't got the freedom you got.
Starting point is 00:12:26 But they very similar. I fight with that my whole career. I finally started to, I guess, just be more confident in myself and my game, bro. I mean, going on year 10, just kind of reflecting. Like, if I would have had that confidence a bit earlier, you know, the stretch of my career would have been different. But God don't make mistakes, man. Like, I'm just happy where I'm at.
Starting point is 00:12:42 Your career is still great, brother. Have you always played out on the perimeter, though? Yeah, for the most part. Even in high school, I stretched the floor quite a bit. Okay. But I would say that I really started doing it more like my second and third season because I didn't really shoot no threes my rookie year. Yeah, that's what I was asking.
Starting point is 00:13:01 My first ever interaction with T, I remember this. We were playing Atlanta, and it was the first time. I got my first start, and it was against them. And I had a real unorthodox shot my first couple years, like in the post. Like, I knew I wasn't stronger than nobody. Just turn and shoot. Exactly. But it's like literally just jump and turn around and shoot.
Starting point is 00:13:18 And I remember I was on Al Horford, and I hit that nigga. T was like, man, hell no. He said, that shit weak as hell. And he started laughing this shit off. hit that nigga so he was like man hell no I remember that bro was like you post up and he don't even look he just turn and shoot but he was taller than everybody so that was like what I got away with in college like I knew it wasn't like physically stronger than dudes but like I was quick and I like I had good anticipation so i'll be on that right block and i mean i'm not a scout report yet like a bottom scout report at that so no one really knows what i do so yeah that was my go-to shot like i'm just gonna catch it just jump and
Starting point is 00:13:57 turn and shoot off the glass and that's it worked for me bro that's his shot That was his shot For real Somebody that say Hill or not Is definitely gonna be Hill first Tiga hater bro Yeah There we go Professional hater I swear I'm glad Somebody had said
Starting point is 00:14:13 I still joke with bro To this day TJ McConnell Like I show love to TJ bro We came in the same draft Yeah TJ Nash Yeah but
Starting point is 00:14:22 I remember bro I think TJ He was a Philly at the time We was playing him. We was warming up. He looked down and said, hey, bro, I don't like that guy.
Starting point is 00:14:31 I hate him. I was like, what the shit would he do? I'm like, what? And to this day, bro, I'll be fucking with TJ, bro, because I'll be trying to get in his head a little bit.
Starting point is 00:14:39 And he brings it up, that shit, I'm like, all the time. I was like, bro, why doesn't he like me? That is crazy. I'm a fan. No, he really is. I think he cold, man. I'll be like, damn. I was like bro why doesn't he like me like that's crazy I'm a fan he really is I think he cold
Starting point is 00:14:47 I'll be like damn I watched him come in because we played in Philly he used to come in you know do what he do now I used to be like how the fuck
Starting point is 00:14:54 is he in the NBA like I used to say that all the time but now seeing him grow as a player it's like nah he deserves
Starting point is 00:15:00 15 million a year in the NBA like so I'm a fan of his game especially how y'all guys play together oh yeah all these fucking stories
Starting point is 00:15:07 you done told on this podcast you ain't never shared that one what we thank you for that my house thank you my house I'm the good guy man I'm the good guy
Starting point is 00:15:16 bro we gotta change the narrative now so we doing the we doing the pie rankings again for sure oh the pie rankings I don't know you
Starting point is 00:15:24 I don't know. I don't think I'll take some time off. I think you might be climbing. I'm climbing. Damn. He for sure is. I have to be at least a star. I think you might be number one right now. Yeah, I'm climbing.
Starting point is 00:15:32 You're right. Was he a good teammate though, Miles? Hell yeah, bro. Okay. And I'll say it with all sincerity. He's like one of the best bets I've had. Oh, I appreciate that. No, real shit, bro.
Starting point is 00:15:40 Because when I was first coming in, I didn't think I had the best bets. You know what I mean? There was a couple that showed love, but lot of was on some hating in my opinion yeah and once he came in right away like he didn't cares bro go bust their ass bro no get to your spots like do this do that and then even off the court bros hey bro you want to go to dinner hey bro you want to do this like i really had a lot of vets that like treated me like that and he always showed love so yeah that's awesome bro he's like definitely one of the best best i appreciate that that's love bro especially being in that you ain't taking the sunset nah i ain't i ain't messing i ain't i ain't listen i
Starting point is 00:16:11 wasn't trying to ruin you now we're trying to make sure you get the bag right for sure we got you know the neptail you gotta get the trimmers gotta get the sunset come both places. Man, I was too young for that shit. Oh, yeah, trimmer. I'm 28 now. Oh, yeah, trimmer's a heartbeat. Make sure it's ready to get. Trimmers, yeah. He wasn't ready for trimmers. Hell, shit, I wasn't ready for trimmers. Someone just talked about Sunset the other day.
Starting point is 00:16:36 Ah, don't talk about that. I swear, bro. Have you been in there? I have never set foot in, but I go to Longs all the time. Oh. So I knew what people was talking about. Yeah, you ain't missing nothing. They talking about, yo, gang, we're going to get information.
Starting point is 00:16:50 You got to go to Sunset. They just like Long's. I'm saying when they open. That's a great night. Man, hey, do not take miles to Sunset. Let's talk to y'all. Do not take miles to Sunset. Let's talk to that 10-piece.
Starting point is 00:17:02 What's happening? Not that 10-piece. No, that 10- no not 10 piece come a little extra not fries but listen man all my patient shit we went crazy this
Starting point is 00:17:12 year everybody was hating it didn't matter we did what the fuck we were supposed to do how was it to have a season like we had this year you know
Starting point is 00:17:17 I'm saying last couple years little rocky couple changes we got Tyrese going crazy you were crazy this year I think I don't know I won't be too political but I don't go fuck I don't want to be too political,
Starting point is 00:17:25 but I don't give a fuck no more. I think that one of the best things that happened for you in our situation is that we ended up making a decision between you as a bonus. And the one thing as a Pacer fan I hated was that I felt like y'all were so talented, but them having y'all together for so long kind of hindered both of y'all's game. And I'm happy that, you know what I'm saying, we got a chance to really show how good you are with the system. And then we got a point guard that actually, like,
Starting point is 00:17:45 T, the way Tyrese played, very similar, distribute the ball, get people their spots. Yeah. I was so happy the success we had last year with this team. Man, how was it to, you know what I'm saying, bounce back like that? It was amazing, bro. I mean, being here for 10 years, I feel like you can say, like, I've seen it all, but I really, truly feel like I've just seen everything and more.
Starting point is 00:18:01 Like, I came in playing a a five and I knew I had ability to stretch the floor and I remember all season but you remember Baino bro yeah Baino bro that's my dog bro he uh we worked out all summer in the post and then even had Kevin McHale come in we worked out a couple times now and I get to training camp it was like hey great work this summer we're gonna put you at the four so I had never never really, like, I knew I could shoot, but, bro, I never really just, like, played basketball. I didn't know how to cut. I didn't know when to time up, like, spacing,
Starting point is 00:18:31 like, even just five men, like, five men out. I didn't know how to play five out. So I'm literally sitting here guessing the entire time for at least half a season. And then, you know, the two, three seasons I played with Domas, like, I wasn't even shooting as well as I possibly could because I knew I was only going to shoot the ball, like, five, six times a game, and I was pissed. Like, I think everybody around me, like, I wasn't even shooting as well as I possibly could because I knew I was only going to shoot the ball, like, five, six times a game, and
Starting point is 00:18:46 I was pissed. Like, I think everybody around me, like, knew that. So, if the ball touched my hands, like, fuck it, it's going up. I'm not even looking for it. Like, it's just going up. I'm not shooting my best. I'm not shooting confident, and honestly, I hate to show enough of work, bro. It felt like a job. Like, I was just in the best space mentally.
Starting point is 00:19:02 But then, bro, all I asked for was I need a guard to give me the ball and I want to play the five. And the paces came through, and I was able just to put my full talents on display, man. And, yeah, this season was special because, you know, the in-season tournament here, like, that was what got some eyes on us. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:19:19 Just that visibility. But being able to take that all season long and just up to Annie and just, like, crush everybody's expectations and just uh up to annie and just like crush everybody expectations and like beating your favorite team like that felt good bro for real just like this to love you got and um yeah man the playoffs like i i was so used to just going home you know what i mean the first four or five months you know the time off but it was a different aura around the city bro different energy like niggas was locked in, bro. Nah, it was a vibe. It was crazy. I mean, it was a vibe. We was geek, bro. We was hatin'.
Starting point is 00:19:46 We was hatin'. We was hatin'. Yeah, I had Milwaukee. No, we was. That's true. Nah, I have Milwaukee. I have Milwaukee. No, I have Boston.
Starting point is 00:19:56 DJ stood down on y'all. Ah, for sure. They had us fucked up. This was a big moment for him. What's my favorite quote for it? The motherfuckers don't watch us play. Yeah. Never, bro. They ain't watch us play. And we did our thing this was a big moment for him. What's my favorite quote for it? The motherfuckers don't watch us play. Never, bro.
Starting point is 00:20:07 They ain't watch us play. And we did our thing this year. Love that for us. I did have Milwaukee, though. Yeah, bro. I want to chip him. Yeah, we had Milwaukee. We had Milwaukee. We smoked at Milwaukee, what, five times?
Starting point is 00:20:15 That bitch was musty. Oh, my God. No, Milwaukee series was fun, bro, because of all the antics and shit that happened during the season. Yeah, yeah. You know how the NBA is, bro. They just created this, I don't know, this story behind everything. Yeah, I tried to steal my man basketball, bro.
Starting point is 00:20:29 Man. Man. What the fuck? You ain't even going down like that. What's up with that weekend shit, Miles? Man. What? What?
Starting point is 00:20:38 Get basketball, man. Boys want the real story, man. Nah, it probably wasn't a story at all. It made for a really great series. Oh, God. That was some good. A series in which we won, by the way. Shout out to Malik Beasley.
Starting point is 00:20:50 We heard you. I want to know, like, how was it in that game where Chris Milton hit that shot off the backboard? Like, what was y'all thinking? Like, oh, shit. That's one of the most stressful games. It was like, this nigga's a second coming. Yeah. He wasn't missing, bro.
Starting point is 00:21:04 It was the craziest shit. Because, like, we like, bro. He wasn't missing, bro. It was the craziest shit. Because, like, we're like, nah, that nigga injured, bro. Like, you know, he's over there, like, hobbling. Bro, he just got to spots and was, like, just a killer, bro. He wasn't talking no shit. Like, just literally just got to it. Just getting to his bag, bro. It was masterful, bro, honestly.
Starting point is 00:21:19 Like, just, like, watch from afar. Like, at the time, you pissed. But then you go back and watch, ah, it's like, damn, this nigga just efficient, bro. It was tough, bro. Like we just in, we were fighting, fighting, fighting. He hit that shot, it was like a gut punch, bro. I was like, damn, you gotta go to overtime. But yeah, man, shit, but at the end of the day,
Starting point is 00:21:34 we prevailed, it was cool. Yeah, I had a hell of a run. That Knicks series, like we always make fun of me and BN. We like, oh, they beat everybody that was hurt. Yeah. So, but shit, that's how it happened. That's how I won a championship. like we always make fun of me and being we like oh they beat everybody that was hurt yeah yeah but shit that's how i have to that's how i won a championship yeah everybody got hurt for sure yeah so it happens like that but what was that feeling like playing in the garden like having to win in new york it was special for me man because you know my dad he's from new york
Starting point is 00:22:01 okay okay he's from queens and he had aspirations of you know playing at this level obviously from Queens, and he had aspirations of, you know, playing at this level, obviously. But, you know, God had different plans. And, you know, for him to be able to be there and witness it with, like, all his childhood friends. Oh, that's fire. Same shit you was on, the whole, I told you so. Like, I told you my sons were, like, you know. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I was just happy for him, bro.
Starting point is 00:22:19 He was definitely, like, really popping shit in this city. That's hard. It was a good moment, man. I just, you know, like you said, injuries or not, but that's what the playoffs is about. It's just that's part of it. It's taking care of yourself. And, yeah, we got it done.
Starting point is 00:22:31 And listen, I told them I didn't give a fuck about them injuries. We had years where our best one or two player was hurt for at least four to five years consecutively, bro. I don't want to hear no excuses. Too bad. Whatever. I just wanted to ask, though, how's it playing with pascal man what kind of teammate is he man that was a great addition for y'all for real bro he just he about his business
Starting point is 00:22:51 bro and that's why i respect him like yeah another extra shit like he get in he get his work and he go home and um that's i feel like in indianapolis it's like what you embody yeah like he embodies all that and uh his skill set is crazy bro. Face up game, he get downhill, shoot a little bit, versatile defender. Like he was like the missing piece. For sure. Just more height and just more star power bro. Cause like that's all it is in this league too bro. It's the eyes and the attraction is the star power like side of things. And you know, Napoli, I feel like we, you know, we miss out on a lot of free agents a lot of times and that was a big gift for us. Yeah. For sure. I mean, speaking of free agents, the East done loaded back up.
Starting point is 00:23:27 You know what I'm saying? Everybody come back to the East. We got a little bit more competition. But I'm excited for us next year because I feel like our key additions are people we didn't get to play much or was hurt last year. We got Benedict coming back. We're going to get right to it. And I'm very excited to see Jairus Walker get minutes next year. Very excited to see Jairus, man.
Starting point is 00:23:41 How has he been in practice, man? He a dog, bro. Jairus, he's one of those that can do everything, like real Draymond type. He can really kind of get guys open. I mean, if he really, really needs to get a bucket, he can face up ISO. But Jairus got a lot of – he's got vision,
Starting point is 00:23:54 and that's what I feel like people haven't been able to see from him yet. Same thing, a versatile defender as well. But he just needs this opportunity. It's tough when you come in this league and you got, like, you're playing behind all-stars, you're playing behind, you know, seasoned vets and whatnot. He just has to wait his turn. It's kind of unfortunate, but we talk to him all the time.
Starting point is 00:24:10 We try to keep his confidence going, but you know how it is being that. Get into this shit. It's just you've got to keep putting your time. That's all this is. He's going to go out here tonight. He's going to bust ass. I already know he is. Lead the team.
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Starting point is 00:29:18 what was the better atmosphere or what was the crazier game? That Milwaukee game, was it game three or game seven in the garden? or was it a crazy game? That Milwaukee game was a game three or was game seven in the garden? I mean, I would say
Starting point is 00:29:29 it was louder in Indy, but the atmosphere was, I think, was a little bit doper in New York just because of what it was. Like, you in the Mecca, bro.
Starting point is 00:29:35 Yeah. It's like game seven. Every single celebrity you can think of is there courtside. Like, everybody talking shit. Like, it's just, it was just that environment.
Starting point is 00:29:43 That's what you dream of. Yeah, exactly. I can't take nothing away from that. But I will say, like, now this year, it was the loudest I've heard it. Even the in-season tournament games, like the color courts and shit, they showed up for the game. Everybody was coming out for them games. I ain't going to lie.
Starting point is 00:29:57 You play with some great guards. Tyrese is a special player. Yeah. What is it like playing with him, man? His vision, the way he plays, it looks like he's having so much fun. It looks like y'all team is having so much fun. I see, like, y'all starting to, like, you and him are the leaders of the team. And you can see that it's starting to, like, run through the whole team.
Starting point is 00:30:13 Like, it's just like y'all playing with a lot of joy. What is it like playing with him? Yeah, bro, he's got an infectious spirit. Like, I think he's someone who he really – he plays better, and he's in a better state when he knows he's getting everybody else involved. Yeah. Like, you know, he's going to get to his side stepep he can get downhill if he needs to but he really wants to pass the ball get people going just takes the attention off him so i've always played with like
Starting point is 00:30:31 score for score first guards you know i came in i was with uh with george hill yeah and he's a he's kind of a system player but he really wanted to get to it he could and then i had you and i had malcolm broad darren collison and malcolm broad dc like yeah dc killed it too boy you see it was And then I had you, and I had Malcolm Brogdon, Darren Collison, Malcolm Brogdon. DC. Like, yeah, DC would kill it, too, boy. DC. It was all, like, score first guards. But Tyrese, like, he really, really wanted to get people involved, and you can feel that, you know what I mean? And when it's time to let him do his thing, it's like, okay, all right,
Starting point is 00:30:54 bet, like, you know, yeah, you got it. So, yeah, bro. He just got one of them personalities that it's just easy to be around, like, make the locker room, morale up, and shit like that. Yeah, it's dope. I love seeing what Semi was saying. I was like, why did they pick him? I'm just like, what do you mean?
Starting point is 00:31:07 They picked the person who averaged the most assists in the NBA to play with the team, but somebody who needs to distribute the ball. That's why I said people don't watch us, but it's cool. That's what he's going to do, too. We're going to get real to it. I like Nim hard, too. Oh, yeah, drew a dog, bro. Hey, he be—he wild, but I like you.
Starting point is 00:31:20 That's you first. Yeah. He don't give a damn, but I like you, though. That's you first. Because he—shit, it was his time to shine. He don't give a damn, but I like you. That's you first. Because he, shit, it was his time to shine. He said,
Starting point is 00:31:27 fuck it, I'm going for it. Yeah, man was on Rooker Park. I like that. He said Rooker Park. That's the only problem they're going to have.
Starting point is 00:31:34 It's going to be tough to keep him. Yeah. Yeah. He's going to get some money, man. Yeah. It's going to be tough to keep him.
Starting point is 00:31:39 And I know who else is going to get some money next year too. Oh, yeah. Contract year. Fuck it right. Bring that truck.
Starting point is 00:31:47 Loading mugs. Going to put my work in, do what I got to do, and then, yeah, let the chips fall where they may. No Jonte Porter, but if you been on Miles this year, take the over, baby. Contract year. Nah, man. And I wanted to ask you,
Starting point is 00:31:59 because you're one of the best defenders in the league. Like, how does it feel, like, when you see, like, no shade to Rudy O'Byrne and guys like that, but they get defensive player of the year three in the league like how does it feel like when you see like no shade to rudy o'brien guys like that but they get defensive player of the year three or four times it's like you feel a way i used to really fucking me bro i know i really used to really fucking me like my first couple years because it's everybody in your ear you feel like bro like i think my third season like i out blocked an entire organization i had more blocks than the cleveland cavaliers team that's right and what they always told me was like oh well you don't rebound and i was like all right you know i'll take that on the chin cool but i
Starting point is 00:32:33 feel like defense is more than just defensive rebounder yeah like i'm leading at the time you know db was but at the time i'm leading like a like a number two defense in the league and you know we have a decent record and but bro we don't't play on TV. I used it. Yeah, we didn't get very far in the playoffs so no exposure so it's like they have to justify who they give this award to and It became like a popularity contest and that's when I kind of bowed out as broad rather get respect from my peers then Know this this trophy, you know what I mean? Like of course, I still would want to like, you know push this trophy you know what i mean like of course i still would want to like you know push for that and grab that in the future but it took the sting out of it for me when i
Starting point is 00:33:09 realized you know it's a business bro like i mean like you know people are gonna like to dive into that and say whatever they need to say but it's just real bro like whoever has the most eyes whoever has the best defensive metrics and like that like yeah we just talked about the metrics too i don't even think a defensive player ever won I mean so far it was a big without averaging at least 10 a game
Starting point is 00:33:28 on the rebound side yeah so but the crazy shit about Rudy is they'll say to Rudy you're a defensive player of the year but now they're calling
Starting point is 00:33:34 you liabilities in the playoffs so like make it make sense you can't be the best player of the year and you're Christmas in the switch and they're just like
Starting point is 00:33:40 oh we're going to live with it like that like you said it's a lot to play into that more than just what it is happening on the court that course of the numbers games gets tough bro when you uh like i said if you really a hoop head and you and you end of this like you know who's a good defender you know like who you're not going at you know like you know just in the back of your
Starting point is 00:33:55 head like when you play it's like ah but if they get this award to somebody and in the playoffs um you can expose that like you didn't talk about and um if he may be great at this but not so great at this and yeah we're going at that so you know that's why when guys like it like marcus smart wins like i tip my cap like that because he really a dog he switched one through four one really guard everybody um and yeah but in rudy's case like bro like i give respect to him because like when you're playing minutes on the playoffs you know you're not going downhill just against oh no but in the switch situations yeah everybody brings him out and it exposes him and whatnot so he do his job but it's just it's overall award for sure
Starting point is 00:34:34 and even like with drew like bro that's somebody who should have a cup on the shelf bro yeah for sure come on that's somebody who should have a cup on everybody this league knows bro yeah that's that's a given bro is that the first thing you was good at though growing up when you started hooping was blocking shots yeah bro that was really it was the only thing like when i was a kid like i wasn't really coordinated like that i just started uh i started getting more of a jumper in middle school when my dad saw it like at a young age and was like oh no we could do something with this okay uh man i mean i gave love to him bro because like i i really wasn't committed to basketball like that but i love baseball like baseball wasn't my first love ain't no way
Starting point is 00:35:07 I was outside so I buy you a snack My strike zone was too big and the white boys start throwing that heat bro But but now I started taking it more serious like like, really after I broke my ankle, like, in high school. And it started to pan out for me. But nah, bro, I just like being multifaceted. Like, just everything I do. Basketball is obviously my profession, what I'm good at. But it just opened doors for me.
Starting point is 00:35:36 It opens different avenues. And that's what I preach to, like, all, like, I guess, some of the young guys coming in. It's like, don't make this the only thing you're good at, bro. This shit's a key at the end of the day. Just unlock, like, hell of doors for you. And they be trying to box y'all in a lot. And I like it now that like everybody has an avenue to show their personality with their light.
Starting point is 00:35:51 It don't matter what you fuck up, what you do. Like even with you, I know you go crazy with the Legos. You can't fight, but it's just like, why the fuck y'all mad at me? What I like to do. That's a lot of work. Like, but I mean, that's a people fear what they don't know or people like feel like they don't understand. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:36:03 So it's easy to sit there like oh lego nerd but at the end of the day bro no you just you can't you can't do this it's too intricate for you you know what i mean i can't do that yeah and the fact that um you can't do it and um it's fun to like kind of laugh and joke because other people that just follow like oh yeah you know what i mean but that's why i do it too bro like i really try to stay uh take the sting out that word bro you hear the word nerd it's such a negative connotation towards it but man you just looked it up it's just someone that's passionate about something at the end of the day there's basketball plenty of basketball nerds out there i just tried to i tried to put on for like those guys like those are like my friends in school
Starting point is 00:36:38 or whatnot you know what i mean they didn't have the abilities that i had or even the social skills that you know that we had so i just tried to put on for them yeah for sure listen you got a lot of crazy highlights what's some of your favorite highlights it's my favorite highlights you caught a lot of bodies yeah no I got plenty of them talk that shit uh I think one of my one of my favorite highlights I ever had was we were playing Boston and uh in this uh in the first round like my fourth year maybe and I got Gordon Hayward like something crazy. Like I pumped fake out, went downhill, was able to surprise him off too.
Starting point is 00:37:08 And like that kind of put me on the map a little bit more too. Just like where it was like, oh shit, like I didn't know he had that, you know? And that was a good one. I got Tristan Thompson my second year in the playoffs. TT. Yeah, that was, like I was off a rebound or whatever, I came up and just,
Starting point is 00:37:23 and he was talking shit. So I got love for TT. We both long-horned shit but he was just talking that shit that series and that just like felt good you remember that series though of course I do bro
Starting point is 00:37:30 yeah remember we was up 30 bro yes at the crib bro we was hype as hell going to the locker room bro Ron told us he walked out
Starting point is 00:37:41 at half court I remember I was walking and he said we good y'all I look like well fuck it that shit started going down I was walking, and he said, we good, y'all. I looked like, what the fuck? That shit started going down. I was like, they about to beat us.
Starting point is 00:37:49 Third quarter, we down. We were up 15 in the third. I'm like, we about to lose, y'all. We losing it. Oh, man. What happened for real, though, bro? They was just better than us, bro. I mean, but what, Miles?
Starting point is 00:38:00 We heard his side. Can I hear your side, bro? Because it may be different. What you think? I think that's it, bro. Second year, we had all the tools, but we didn't have the chemistry, bro. For sure. Let's just be real.
Starting point is 00:38:13 We had so much talent in that roster, but they didn't really fuck with each other, bro. It just was what it was. And you can tell. And you can always tell on the court. And I think that was a big thing for the front office even like now is like we want to bring in guys that we know are going to mesh you know i mean we got to put egos to the side like there's just there's just that's what made us so good this year like there was just no ego you know we got all this hoop but at that time it was just a lot
Starting point is 00:38:37 of ego and a lot of you know who's the man this and um it was tough bro so i think when we got into the playoffs um we didn't really have no flow, bro. We were just relying on talent at the end of the day. And you know during the playoffs that shit don't work. And Cleveland was a better team, bro. Like, they had all their role players. Like, Kyrie was still there. They even had Kyle Corver.
Starting point is 00:38:57 Like, they had plenty of guys. Richard Jefferson was insane. There's that guy, J.R. Smith. Like, guys that knew what they knew to roll. Whereas we were trying to, like, force our roll. For sure. Yeah. Smith, like guys that knew what they knew to roll. Whereas we was trying to like force our role. For sure. Yeah. That's a bad.
Starting point is 00:39:08 I thought I finally was going to be broad. I was hype as hell. That shit was over with. Yeah, bro. That's crazy how much chemistry really matters. Outside of the business, if you look at that team, how many people was either in a contract year or near a contract year? And it's just like, yeah, it's got to be team, but I got to get fucking paid. Yeah. I got to get these stats up. That was my contract year. new year contract year and it's just like yeah it's got to be team but i got to get fucking paid yeah i got to get these stats up that was that was my contract year i remember so you got a thing bro like bro i remember this shit vividly anytime he would get scored on you
Starting point is 00:39:36 know bro we're breaking up like he's going like he's just fucking going they get fuck the play fuck everything fuck that floppy shit i'm going bro. And we all knew it. I was like, shit, all right. That motherfucker paper tapped in that boy's head. That's just my competitive. When somebody's scoring me, I just couldn't. I'm like, I got to get them back. That was just me. We saw last week in the big three.
Starting point is 00:39:57 That's me. When you score, I need the ball back. I play one-on-one. Come on, I need the ball back. But I grew out of that man When I retired You was part of the chemistry Fuck up I was the fuck up
Starting point is 00:40:10 I was the fuck up Cause I'm the point guard Yeah So I gotta bring everybody together I didn't do a good job of that Like I always tell y'all I should've been way better at that Like I talked to Miles
Starting point is 00:40:20 I talked to Thad CJ Yeah But everybody Glenn But other than that I ain't really talking to nobody. Like PG and like Monte.
Starting point is 00:40:29 I ain't really talk to them like that. And they was two of the guys who had the ball too. So it was just a bad blend at that time. For sure, man. But listen, we back on the mat. Pacers going crazy. I don't give a fuck about nobody else's free agent pickups. We still in the East going crazy.
Starting point is 00:40:43 Nigga still got to come to Gainesville to see what's up with it. I can't wait for us to go crazy again this season, man. What's up? I'm talking shit today. What's up? Get well soon. Bucks. Who else?
Starting point is 00:40:57 We building. No, Miles, listen. It ain't even just because you're here, bro. No, no. keep it real. You 28, bro. I've been hating on the Pacers even before you was thought of. You wasn't even thought of. Pops was still doing his thing.
Starting point is 00:41:15 When I was hating on the Pacers. You know what I'm saying? Nah, but y'all are a better team, though. I've been giving DJ hell all the time, you know what I'm saying? But now I do. Y'all are a good team for sure. I agree with you, hell all the time. You know what I'm saying? But now I do. Y'all are a good team for sure. You're the same. No one that I've lost to had no playoff experience.
Starting point is 00:41:29 And this is perfect for everybody. So now you just build on that. That's good for y'all momentum, for sure. But I'm being honest. I still got Boston. They the champs. Respect. Milwaukee.
Starting point is 00:41:39 I'm going to die hard in Milwaukee. I don't know why. In Philly, bro. My boy, Dane Dame coming back healthy. Yeah. East is really good. You and, I got y'all over Philly.
Starting point is 00:41:50 I don't like Philly. Oh, bro. I like the players they got. PG come back in there, bro. I like PG Cole, but I just don't. That's why I just tap into his monster space jam.
Starting point is 00:42:01 But I just don't like, they always, I don't know, I don't like it. For some reason, I don't got it. That's a team, I need to see Kimberley Shearer. I got to see it happen, bro. I need to see it happen, bro. I just don't like, they always, I don't know, I don't like it. That's a team, I need to see chemistry work. I gotta see it happen, bro. I need to see it happen, bro.
Starting point is 00:42:09 I got y'all, because y'all do got the perfect chemistry. Pascal gonna have a full year with y'all. Yeah. I like that. And y'all already got that experience. I like that. But in the Knicks,
Starting point is 00:42:17 I'm excited to see y'all in the Knicks. Y'all, that's my four right there. Yeah, that's right. They got some pickups too. Yeah, they got my kid. No, the East is reloaded, bro, but it makes it fun, bro. Yeah. And then some pickups. Yeah, they got my kills. No, the East is reloaded, bro, but it makes it fun, bro.
Starting point is 00:42:25 Yeah. And then my Hawks. Oh, Jesus. We in rebuild. We in rebuild. I think his Hawks got a chance against y'all, man. Who? Against who?
Starting point is 00:42:33 No, no, we in rebuild. We in rebuild. They got great defense, bro. That's the biggest thing. The Hawks, they talented offensively. We in rebuild. We in rebuild. I was about to say.
Starting point is 00:42:41 We got number one pick for real. I was about to say, sweet. Oh, what? Like, yeah. We got number one pick for you I was about to say sweet Oh what We got number one pick for you Free Trey Young Free Trey Young man Get him out of that letter man I was surprised they traded DeJounte
Starting point is 00:42:53 I really was I know he probably has more value Probably needs more form Yeah I didn't know what he was talking about He was talking about him going to San Antonio Or trade or whatever Back to San Antonio would have been crazy
Starting point is 00:43:01 Who doubt it It would have been nuts yeah But nah They got Chris Paul So that is definitely not true I gotta For real quick I know we joking and shit
Starting point is 00:43:09 But do you think Y'all are missing a piece Like what do you think That y'all can bring Not necessarily a player But like Something that somebody Can add to help y'all
Starting point is 00:43:19 Get over that hump That y'all are right now Um I think One we gotta be A better rebounder team, bro. We're still kind of small. Yeah, okay.
Starting point is 00:43:27 We just got Wiseman, so that helps a bit. You know what I mean? He's like 7'1", but we're like a big team. I mean, outside of me, Isaiah Jackson was 6'9". Jalen Smith at the time was 6'9", 6'10". So, I mean, just having more front-court presence, especially off the bench. And just vets, bro. I mean, I'm like, Frontcourt presence Especially off the bench And Just vets bro
Starting point is 00:43:46 I mean I'm like Me and TJ Were probably the oldest dudes On the team now Outside of you know JJ When he resigned But
Starting point is 00:43:51 JJ In the vets bro Listen man I was geeked about Wise Man I was like If there was any team That would help him It would be us
Starting point is 00:43:57 You know what I'm saying You being a mentor for him That's perfect It's perfect for him To get back on track And do what he's supposed to do But listen man We gotta get up out of here Miles we appreciate you Sliding man You know what time it is Nap Town Pacers plays is perfect for him, man, to get back on track and do what he's supposed to do. But listen, man, we ought to get up out of here miles.
Starting point is 00:44:05 We appreciate you sliding, man. You know what time it is, Naptown. Pacers, we getting it fucking done this year. I don't want to hear no more Nick Slant, no Nick's talking about DMs. We meet y'all at Game 7 at the crib. Pacers win first round. I'll wear a full Pacers outfit, bro, and a bandana for sure. A bandana.
Starting point is 00:44:22 You said true. And the white laces and the black. With the forces. I'll get some yellow forces with the white laces with the forces I get some yellow forces with the white laces yeah and I get you know I got somebody that's right on shoes and shit I get my ass turned on some real shit for my old
Starting point is 00:44:39 heads back in the day I'm gonna wear the patient shirt with no shirt under the jersey with no shirt under and on that note we gonna get up out of here I'm going to wear the patient shirt with no shirt under. The jersey with no shirt under. And on that note, we're going to get up out of here. I'm going to sleep on his uniform. That's a bad body language. You know what I'm talking about.
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