Club Shay Shay - Club Shay Shay - Donnell Rawlings Part 2

Episode Date: January 15, 2025

Welcome back to part 2 of this incredible conversation with Donnell Rawlings.   In this special episode of Club Shay Shay, Shannon Sharpe welcomes the legendary comedian, actor, and writer Donnell Rawlings to the luxurious Villa 66 at Resorts World Las Vegas. With over 30 years in the entertainment industry, Donnell takes us on a hilarious and insightful journey through his iconic career, from his unforgettable roles on The Chappelle Show and The Wire to his work as a stand-up comedian. Donnell reflects on the evolution of comedy, the influence of the DMV comedy scene, and the legends who shaped it, including Martin Lawrence, Dave Chappelle, and Wanda Sykes. He shares candid stories from his time on The Wire, and reflects on how the show’s groundbreaking portrayal of Baltimore changed the landscape of television. Donnell also reveals behind-the-scenes moments with co-stars like Idris Elba and the unique dynamics of the show. Donnell opens up about his collaborations, including how he brought Bill Burr on tour before Burr became a household name. He shares the story of their "Rich B**** Tour," where he believed in Burr’s talent before the world caught on, leading to both financial success and creative fulfillment. He also touches on the importance of crossover appeal in comedy, navigating both the Black (Chitlin Circuit) and mainstream comedy clubs to appeal to diverse audiences and positioning himself alongside the best in the business. The conversation touches on the strategies that helped comedians like Kevin Hart achieve longevity. Donnell emphasizes the importance of using opportunities wisely and respecting different paths to success in the industry. Donnell also reflects on his career, discussing the roles he didn’t get and controversial topics in entertainment, such as gender expression and the public perception of performers. He discusses respecting the craft of acting, acknowledging when others are better suited for roles, and appreciating artistry, like Katt Williams’ Emmy-winning performance on Atlanta. Donnell recounts auditioning for roles, including Ving Rhames’ part in Holiday Heart, and reflects on how exposure to icons like Tyler Perry highlights the power of creative ownership. The conversation takes an interesting turn as Donnell reflects on his experiences at Hollywood parties. He explains that some of these gatherings are merely regular social events, while others may involve more questionable activities. Donnell highlights how Hollywood's image has been shaped by various stories and experiences, particularly the contrast between parties in different communities. With unfiltered humor and larger-than-life energy, Donnell keeps it real about life, love, and chasing happiness in all its flavors. Tune in for a conversation filled with laughter, wisdom, and unforgettable moments that showcase the incredible journey of a true comedy legend.    #volume See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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You spent 10 years, 15 years in Hollywood. I never was a part of Hollywood like that. Why you asking me Hollywood questions? I've been asking. Okay, ask me the question. What? Are any Hollywood parties on the up and up where you fist go have hors d'oeuvres, you have a good time, maybe.

All of them are! At two, two o'clock in the morning! Oh. But you get there at 2.15 though. Ah. Ah. My mama told me it would be days like that. She told me don't get caught up.

She didn't say shit, but she said don't get caught up in shanty shit. That's what she said. She said don't drink the yak. I don't know. Here's the thing. Here's the thing. Okay Why do people act like they don't know what the Hollywood is about? Especially are you saying you can't expect a person that's not in Hollywood to know what Hollywood's about But the people that are in Hollywood definitely know what Hollywood's about the people that's not in Hollywood to know what Hollywood's about. But the people that are in Hollywood definitely know what Hollywood's about. The people that's not in Hollywood know what Hollywood is about.

How? Because they hear the stories. You can't lie. Are we gonna be real? Yeah, let's be real. All right, what you're doing is, what you're doing is not being honest. I've never been to a party,

so I can't tell you what's going on there. I can't tell you what's being served. I can't tell you the location. I can't tell you anything, because I've never been there. It would be dishonest of me to say, yeah, I know that's what's going on. All you know, those Hollywood... I've been to some...

Careful. Anything you say can and will be used against you in the court of law. I've been in situations. You have a right to an attorney. If you cannot afford one, one will be appointed to you. Do you understand these rights, if you've been written to them? I plead the fifth.

I will just say this. I've been to parties that I was like, it felt like a regular party. And then I also have been to parties that I was like, it felt like a regular party. Right. And then I also have been to parties I feel like it's probably a good time. For you to leave. Or partake. Damn.

I'm not a partaker. Oh. So you left? I mean, it was one time. Did you leave? What are you talking about? The parties, when they get crazy, do you leave? Did you leave?

What was the next question? What about? I stayed for 10 minutes. But that's what normally happens. I peeked in. But that's what normally happens. I peeked in. Don-el what normally happens. I peeked in. Don L, you know, hey, I'm only gonna stay.

Peek-a-boo. I'm only gonna stay for 10 minutes. You know you ever go to a party. Hey, look here, guys. We only gonna be here for 10 minutes. 10 minutes. 10th, turn to 30, 30 turn to an hour, hour there, you there, hour there.

All right, Shannon, what do people go to Hollywood for? What do people, just... I just find it hard to believe, and I am not, cause people are, oh my God, you're saying, I just find it hard to believe that as long as Hollywood has been in existence, as long as all type of crazy shit happens,

I just find it hard to believe that if nobody know that find it hard to believe that if nobody know that when it's about to start popping. Is it a situation that because how do you change your voice? Okay, what do you want me to say? You got to catch a predator voice right now. Go drink another drink. Go back to funny. No, I don't want to hear that shit.

Don't fuck that. Nah, put some dramatic music behind this shit. I ain't come here for that, man. I ain't come here for that. You have to tell the CJ about the score that go good or not. I already know what it's going to be. Slow motion and everything. I know what it's going to be.

But maybe it's a situation. Hollywood a lot of times was, it was our counterparts that had these type of parties. I'll count about white people Yes. Yes now it's been alleged that someone that's from our community was having these types of parts I think our people not coming to have this part, but they just this is a this is at a different scale. Okay Yeah, he's a different skill. I think our party just like have weed. Yeah. Yeah, he got orgy drugs or his shit Oh Lord. Yeah, orgy drugs is a whole different. You ain't gonna never start an orgy with a blunt I've never seen somebody be like this. Yo, who was something I did for his off of his blunt All right, you don't want to

You are so smart No, I just said you know when it disconnects from me in this interview or not. You're very smart No, no, no, cuz I know cuz if you look to me at that moment right way It would have gave them pressure you agreed. Yes, it would have I would Damn go now. I'm just ooh what Lord have mercy. I don't know that about no parties You don't know nothing about no parties. I don't know nothing about no part Let me ask you this a lot of times you played. Why people so obsessed with these goddamn parties? I think for the Lord, I don't know if people really thought that they probably have heard. You can't have a white party now

Look what did he did nigga? You can't even go see Frankie Bambi amazed now Well, before I let you go into the freak off, can't even wear all white no more. Damn you diddy! Michael Rubin is taking over the white party now. Yeah. I don't, I don't, so those people in those high places, I just want, just what, here's, hey boys and girls, don't come to Hollywood. Hollywood is an evil, dirty place. If you don't have any indication of what this what this world is about Stay the way from don't be surprised by anything and guess what?

Don't go to a mansion party at 2 o'clock in the Hollywood Hills. I ain't saying that's gonna happen there's a chance of it and Gotta let these motherfuckers know don't be naive You can't be naive. Nobody want to talk about that You don't want to say what you could do to prevent this shit So it's a tough thing There's like you say with this damn if I say this about it or say that about but I do know Hollywood is an evil place. This job is evil entertainment acting the whole shit

I got a nine-year-old son that was talking to me about entertainment He was like daddy I want to do entertainment and the first thing I did, any guy would be like, oh, he wants to follow my footsteps. First thing I told my son was, you know, 95% rejection, they're gonna be hating, people are gonna be negative, it's gonna be hard, you're gonna get a lot of, this is what I told him,

you're gonna get a lot of doors slammed in your face. I was like, if you were built for that, then maybe. Why would you wanna do it? Try discourage him. He said, daddy, because you inspire me. And I wanted to tell him, did you see that photo? Now that's double the disrespect. No, no, no, no. I'm not going to let you continue. No, no, no. That was foul. Yo, I looked you in you continue. Can I get some water? Can I? You want some water? No, no, that was foul. Yo, I looked you in your face and said, my nine year old son, you blocked all that shit out.

No, no, no, no, no. You blocked all that shit out. You ain't say, aw. Aw. You blocked all that shit out. You the type of man who would show my son that picture. No, yes You would yes, you would yes, you would No, yo, I would do that. You think you've said your father used to be Ashley. Look, there's a picture here with baby

Oh, that's what you do. You thought he never he never he never saw as you learn Just no, he know he know he know actually but I'm saying you don't think you owe me an apology for that You just said in a moment. I'm giving you a tearful debate a serious moment You serious? You didn't think I was serious. Mmm you I Going back to the joy of my life. Yeah. All right. You want to give my son childhood trauma I

Looked and I said he said I cannot believe I don't believe you Why you don't believe me? I did tell my son is and I said daddy cuz you know, but it don't be truthful You'd be a 100 on it right now 100% honest. Okay, let's go You already Talked about let's go Rewind you already blew it. Okay, didn't see the picture What I was doing what I was trying to tell you is that my I told my what I was trying to tell you Before I was trying to tell you before I was so disrespected is that I don't encourage,

I don't encourage almost anybody to do this business business. If you don't know how up it is, you have to know. Now you want to do extra serious now. No, but look, I think the thing is for my, I mean, I think all of our kids, I think for the most part, normally like when doctors have kids, the kids like a lot of times you and my parents,

they become a doctor or you become a lawyer. If you're a professional athlete, you know, kids see their father play football, basketball, that's what they want to become. So I'm not surprised that he wanted to follow in your footsteps. Okay, but before I was so rudely interrupted, I didn't want to discourage him from following my footsteps.

But I said- You did! Can I finish my thought? Go ahead. This is my life and my son, man. What the fuck? All right, go ahead, go ahead. But you did try to discourage him.

Let me finish. Okay, go ahead. I said, I like the idea you like what daddy do, but why don't you focus, and you're gonna hate this. What but why don't you focus and you're gonna hate this what? Why don't you focus on being a funny doctor or funny lawyer? But this business is very evil right any woman that's thinking about this. Yes, you can get it Yes, you can be successful. But this was I'm not says gonna happen to you But it's gonna be

they try you right we got to stop sugarcoating it motherfuckers don't do math they don't do easy math this plus this equals this you don't want to do that oh why I'm telling you what it is somebody said this is gonna be very controversial when the Bill Cosby was in news for all the shit Somebody said Daniel, but what would you tell your daughter? They was looking serious like you looking at me, right? They said what would you tell your daughter? I said I would tell my daughter this It's gonna be hard for you to take if a man sends an SUV for you at your place in the hood Takes you to the airport. You're on the first-class flight you get off that flight

You go to baggage claim. It's a With the sign with your last name on it get in another SUV go to the Four Seasons with a 3,000 square foot crazy ass with chocolates and champagnes whatever bitch, that's not an audition. And a mother fucker's gonna try to get you. You can't say that, oh what do you say? I'm telling you, that's the reality of it. I'm trying to tell you, this is what I would say.

I'm trying to tell you shit that men do. So it won't be a surprise to you. Oh, I thought that what he meant, no, it don't mean that. It could mean that, but here's equation. This plus this could equal that. And I don't want you to be a part of that equation. I would tell it straight up. And also I would be in my daughter's life enough

that no man could ever excite her or do something that I can't do that could persuade her to do something that she don't wanna do. But when you start talking about real shit, like are you victim blaming say the reality of it If the non reality is not working, let me tell you the reality bitch. Don't get on the airplane You can't say that. Oh, no, they'll be people eat me up with this shit right now, right? I don't have no career like that

But that's to be honest truth is let's tell a reality Even when cat whims did that explosive interview, everybody's talking about, Kat Wimps did not say nothing that people don't already know about Hollywood. Where's the lie? Okay, there's no lie, but what is the truth getting you? What did we get from that? What'd you get out?

Stay out the parties. You can't say that, I'm wrong for saying that shit. And I'm gonna be in my daughter's life enough where Can't dangle shit and get her excited about that But when you say that oh you can't say that when Bill Cosby says shit like um, you know It's troubling though And I know people could they could say what they want that father's not being fathers when you address that shit You know nobody want to deal with the real reality the real reality is

What the are you doing? Right? What are you doing here? You know, this is not it And it is people that will get success in his business For hard work. Yeah, there's a lot of people out there I don't want to discourage anybody that has dreams to be an actress or actor There are people to get it right way and There's some people that's gonna suck a dick to get to the top And there's gonna be a position for everybody. Hmm I'm not saying I'm hiring

I'm not saying that and I'm gonna tell you, you know, who's really up about this movement the real hoes The real hoes are fired up, oh I gotta go to actor school. Fuck them down. I would just be ready to be like, walk, walk, walk, take the shortcut. There's options. But I wouldn't care, especially on the female side of it. But I will say this Shannon, one of the good things about All this shit that's happening with Diddy, all this shit that's happening with the Me Too movement, they're checking theyself. Right.

Like as wild as it used to be. I'm not saying I'm guilty of a lot of crazy shit, but years ago, 25 years ago, I'd go to a set, I would have no problem saying, oh, you look nice in that dress. Right. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, you can't say that. You can't say none of that. Oh, you look nice in that dress, right? Oh, I'm saying you can't say none of that

Oh, you look nice. I see you. Ooh But now and this is where I know the me too movement This is the beauty of what's going on and the beauty of these guys getting caught in this shit If you want to jail and this Harvey Weinstein shit is that now you you see you you see it, right? You know I'm saying but the reality of it that shit is out there, right? Let me ask you this Do you think people because you were able to do this because a lot of times when people in situations Success of a Dave Chappelle show and you're you know, you're playing basically you're the Robin to to his Batman

You know, I gotta be Robin What Dave would the lead? So I never been Batman and nothing. No, I'm just saying I said good good You already showed me a little disrespect. So I don't know what I'm just saying. No, I mean I really know good good I mean, I mean you okay. I'm Robin good. Yeah, right and I'm so lucky to work for Dave No, no nice. He's gonna be such a big break. He did he got me all those little freaky parties. All right, Shannon go How do you explain I know a nigga about to say so somebody do they hands like that? Joe when they do that shit is coming home

All right, go ahead continue. So but how would you tell them because everybody won't ever tell what let's go back Everybody wants to be because what you play you alone Sheppell oh sheppell's Batman now a lot of times guys like Matt brah I'm tired of playing I'm tired of being Robin I want to be Batman and they you know leave or they try to upstage right should get more people be willing to play Batman I mean Robin thing is the thing is you got to realize Robin can get on too Yes, and then the black community, this is the problem with the black community, black comics, whatever.

We only think it's only one nigga at a time. You know, it's only one person. You can't share the stage. I'm saying even though I don't have a problem, some people are comfortable being on the side. Right. Some people, their ego, they wanna be the star. I don't care about being a star, I care about winning.

Right. And at the end of the day, I know that I have moments where I'm my own Batman. Right. But I also know, fuck with, I mean, I'm Batman. I know being Rod right now, this is a good look. Right. Guess who I'm beside? I'm beside him and people get to see me.

I do my own shows. I do my show, I sell out of comic clubs, whatever. But yes, it's something to be said when David has me open for him, and we do on a ring, it's a 20, 25,000 people with some of the biggest names in the industry, and I go up to get a stand-ovation before I go on and before I have to. I know there's advantages of being a Robin, but I know that I have my moments of being Batman. But that's when you have to put your ego inside.

You know, what, what, 50 Cent says on every platform, of the 40 love 40 laws of 48 laws of power What's a book? What about it's like don't upstage the master? Mm-hmm, you know I'm saying you you know what I know what my position is right? And when I'm when I'm around Dave, we're doing shit. I won't even take pictures with people I Want to take pictures with people because I don't want to give the impression that I know that's his space his time And I would have my time to shine. Right.

People got to understand that. Relationship with Ben Robin has opened up the doors. Comedy Central, when I did my last special, Comedy Central, Robbie Pra, Ted Sereno, they had already decided that they was going to give me a special. It was already some talk about Dave producing special. They had already talked they were going to give me a special. That was already in the can.

But also, now here's when Batman and Robin relationship pay off. Commie Essential, when I got that, they would have probably gave me, I don't even want to say the number was, but it would have been a type of number where I would have probably used half of that money on the budget to produce it and I would have came back with a wop wop. Me waiting for my... Batman, I got seven figures. That's a relationship that works.

Everybody's not built for that. Everybody's not... And those people that can't handle it are the people that's usually envious and jealous. And I don't have no reason to be that way because I know Dave knows, pound for pound, I'm one of the funniest out here. I don't care what you wanna say. I know that.

People ask me all the time, Dave Chappelle's your favorite criminal? Ask Dave Chappelle who's in his top five. And unequivocally he would say that I wasn't part of that. And not because of one set, but because of seeing me over the years. Seeing me in some of the toughest situations. Seeing me at the Hollywood Bowl, when that place holds 18,000 people and they're late, it's only 900 people in that 18,000 joint. And then the head of Live Nation comes up and says, Don, good news, bad news. Well, you got 15 minutes.

Only thing, there's nobody out there. So you want to wait five more minutes or do you want to go now? I'm like, what the f***? 18,000 people going to come that quick. Give me the whole time And Dave said one of the greatest sessions ever seen I jumped off that stage 800 Can you imagine what 800 people look like and 18,000 people? I went off the stage went to each person in that audience rip this shit Everybody in agreement will come back up

Dave said if I was teaching the comedy course I would show people what it means to be able to stay in the pocket and Do that and this is then this is and this is when I say this and yes, I'm getting a little mad They should Pell did the outdoor cornfield shows with nobody else is doing shows for two summers in a row Some of the biggest names in For two summers in a row, some of the biggest names in comedy came out of that cornfield. Guess who ended the show every time? Me. Wow. So when people want to talk shit like that to me, when people want to say, did your son see the picture you sent him between Diddy Legs?

I tell them, I remind them. That's what I am. No, that's true. I close the show. but did you close but did he close his legs? But that's that's just it that's just it, you know, I know That I'm a funny guy, right? I know that I've paid my dues I know I've accomplished a certain amount of things and I know there's a lot of other things that I could do but one of the things I do know is I don't get caught up in the stupid shit that all these other communities talk about

Dumb shit, right? I'm enjoying the journey. I Enjoy the fact I call my own shots. I work when I want to work and also I've also realized I'm a I Didn't go to college. Mm-hmm. The only really training I had was being a military police officer in the Air Force. And I built a career for myself where, at the end of the day, I could put my name on the marquee and people say, you know what? That guy's funny.

I want to go see him. Anything else is extra. What's some of the best advice Dave has given you? Dave don't really give me advice. Really? No. He doesn't really give me advice. You really? No. He don't really, he doesn't really give me advice. Just stay out of trouble.

Well, he will say, Dave has told me this, you starting to level up. So as you starting to level up, you gotta be careful of shit because they will come after you. But he doesn't really, you gotta realize, Dave is the goat, right? I'm older than Dave, but Dave really has respect for me.

He has respect for me as a comic, so it's not too much advice you're gonna give him. And when we talk, and like our relationship, it's not like our relationship, it ain't all about just comic. Yeah, y'all ain't really talking about, yeah. You know what I'm saying? It's just like- Y'all talking about relationship. It ain't all about just come. Yeah. Yeah, I really talk about yeah You know I'm saying it's just like y'all talk about life I'll come people come to me like, you know, I got this check. So I say I don't even talk to Dave about none of that

Man, they talk about family. You know I'm saying like we like our friendship is not just on that screen We'd have been in funeral together. We've been in weddings You know I'm saying when I had my first kid, you know what I mean? He saw the excitement that I had on those tour buses and shit like that. So our relationship is not just about that show. It's a real brotherhood. Hold on. You live in Ohio?

Mm-hmm. What the... What? You're from the DMV. What made you decide to go to Ohio? I got invited to a ditty party. No. Dave lives in Ohio. No, Dave lives in Ohio. No, Dave lives in Ohio, but I'm gonna tell you,

this is what made me think about it. During the pandemic, when the whole world was shut down, the whole world was shut down, nothing was moving in LA. You know what I'm saying? My baby mother was really getting to my nerves, like, and at a very tough time when nobody was working, I didn't know what the future of anything was gonna be. And Dave was one of the first people,

he built a, he created a bubble out there. And it was in that time, that first summer, that time that I started really looking at, like, what's really important in life. And Hollywood shit didn't matter, you know what I'm saying? I was just like, during the pandemic, if you didn't appreciate the simple important in life. And Hollywood shit didn't matter. You know what I'm saying? I was just like, during the pandemic, if you didn't appreciate the simple things in life,

like being in Hollywood and riding past a playground with no kids there, all that type of shit, if it didn't get to you and realize something else is out there. And I went out there to Yellow Springs, spent some times in the country. I saw how simple that life was and I got it. I was like, why

did anybody need to be in Hollywood now? Did you think you could ever live that simple of a life? Yeah. And the reason why, because my life is so chaotic anyway. I travel so much. I'm all over so many different places. I can get my chaos there, but when I go on the elsewhere, I just want to chill. I want to look in the backyard and see a mother****** deer. I want to eat some the backyard and see a deer. I want to eat some of the shit you used to eat, like possums and turtles and all of that crazy shit. And that's what it was.

I was like, this is the simple side. And I never, Hollywood is not Hollywood anymore. It used to be a point where the only way you could make it, you had to be in New York or Hollywood. But you're an example of, you ain't got to be in Hollywood to do any of the things that you do. No. You can be whatever you want.

That's what digital is. That's what internet digitally has done. And then what it also is, you bring it to me. I do a podcast, whatever, I'm building the numbers on that, but eventually I'm going to get that to a point where, you know what, I don't got to work as hard as whatever. I better do that. But it was the simple life. it was that simple part of it and then after doing it for over 30 years it ain't too much shit that I haven't

already done experience that you on the wild side so you know I know different birds and shit now blue jays and canaries and shit like that. And I appreciate that shit now. I mean, cardinals. Canaries are not native to Ohio. What? Canaries are not. What are you? Cardinals. That's the red bird. Oh, you're a bird now?

Oh, this mister do everything. Yo, now nobody knew what bird I was talking about. You had to take it to the origin of the bird. Okay, I grew up around gray birds. I grew up on gray birds. They was all gray. Pigeons. A canary cardinal couldn't even make it in D.C.

They'd get jumped. You ever seen a colorful bird in Brooklyn? No. All gray birds. Let me ask you this. Yeah. You got some money. When you first got some good money, you need some money.

Now when you look, I mean, obviously any money you was making probably was a little bit more than you was making in the DMV. But when you got a good chunk of money, what did Donny O do? Pay back all the old. Yo, I was on people's books. But I never... The thing is, my grind has been just constantly, you know what I'm saying, where it was no money to make some comfortable money, to be scared about this. But the crazy thing now is, I'm going through a transition on learning how to have money,

make money. Right. I'm going through a transition on learning how to have money, make money. I've always been just teetering along, but it was never nothing like, oh my God, I can't wait to blow money. You never had no throwaway money. Never did. I won't say throwaway, I know this sounds crazy, but the weirdest thing, and I'll get over this, the best part of me making money is being able to help others and give other people.

When I was younger, when I was younger in the game, I was like, you know, money, what money is going to mean to me is that I'll be able to take care of some people and make other people's life comfortable. Because where I'm coming from, there's not too many people who can go somewhere and say, even simple as like, y'all get what y'all want, order whatever you want, you know where I'm coming from is not too many people can go somewhere and say even simple as like y'all get what y'all want order whatever you want you know what I'm saying but it was never and I'm not like a flashy guy or anything like that I just do just simple shit as long as I can provide for my son my family I'm good.

Does money does money mean different things to you now as opposed to say 25, 30 years ago? No. I've never been excessive. You know what I'm saying? Only thing I did, when I was younger, I wanted to live like a drug boy without the chance of going to jail. Right. You know what I'm saying?

I wanted to have a nice car, dress nice, and just I wanted to be able to go somewhere and not look at the tags and not worry about money. And I've built enough now, that's where I'm at right now. But money is not my motivator. The only thing I look at money now is for the future of my son. I had Marlon Waynes on about a couple of months ago.

And he said when he wrote a show, he and Sean, and it didn't go through like he wanted to. And then Keenan came on and he made him write it 20 plus times again, and I read that that uh Dave made you rewrite your special three times Yeah, but it was I don't know who was a rewrite, but it's so funny cuz Marlon gave me some advice once before he said Dono taking you off and just write you can write your future, but the Dave situation was We were on this, during the pandemic, he really got close to my standup. And he was like, I wanna do your special.

I never approached him about doing my special. He said, I wanna produce your special. He was just like, you deserve it. He came up with the idea of the home team, me, Luenell, Earthquake, Tony Woods, and that was it. And we shot the special. The first time I did a stand-by, it was in Charlotte at the Fillmore Theater in Charlotte, North Carolina. But this was at the heels

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Jess Bupp and Stan Latham to you now, you want to do it over? He said, Don-El, I could put you in front of any audience, and you'll rip it. It doesn't make it a great special. Right? Made a lot of sense. And he talked to a guy that already won like four Emmys, five Grammys. I said still know that means he said look

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But I was already under gun because when you when you practice for a special you usually do an hour. Right. There was doing COVID. Nowhere I could go into an hour. Right. Only place I could do was 15 minutes. So what I was doing was I had four 15 minute shows and hopefully I'll bring them together when it's time for it. But when I listened to him and after he said that,

it made more sense. He said, we're going to do this. We got to knock it out of the park. And I was saying, you still don't give me my money, right? Yo, the check had already cleared so we could do it a thousand times. That was the first time. Maybe seven or eight months after that we were doing some shows in Napa Valley and we were backstage. It was me, Dave, Ricky Hughes who produced all his specials. And Dave said, Ricky, how many cameras do you have here? She said we got five.

He looks at me and he said, do you want to shoot your special? I said, when? He said, tomorrow got five. He looks at me and said, do you want to shoot your special? I said, when? He said, tomorrow. No announcement. We were just going to roll the dice. We had the cameras. And I was excited about that because I didn't have to do a buildup, inviting family. It's a Netflix presentation. We was basically going to do it with nobody knowing. Caught another standing ovation. He hits me back. I want to do it again.

I'm like, what the f***? He was like, bro, just go ahead and tell me. What's up? Yeah, that's what I want to say. But then he said, I didn't like the production. I'm like, you produced it. But what it was, he's very meticulous when it comes to production. And the thing was, it was like people walking around because we didn't have an audience person telling people, don't go to the bathroom.

And he just didn't like the look of it. And I was like, all right, the next staff, I was at the New York Comedy Festival and I said, let's just bring the cameras in here and do it. And that's when I think I nailed it. That's when the new day, the special was good. I look good. People liked the special. I talked about stuff that's evergreen because that first one, if you would play that first one today and saw COVID mask you would already known it was shot in 2020 correct But the way we did it this time you don't know something timeless timeless. It could be funny five years before and five years after so Negotiating

What did you learn about negotiating with companies like a Netflix like a Comedy Central you mentioned that Dave, you know produced a couple of your shows and so obviously They take you serious when they it's kind of like with anything, you know You have an agency and you go negotiate with people they take you serious like oh he ain't bulljabbing because you have an agency behind you Yeah, yeah, but that's like but then some, but I know this is gonna sound crazy, but the traditional sense of negotiating agencies, management, it's about to change. And the reason why I say that,

because the artists now have power now, where you needed an agent or manager to introduce you to this person and get this, the power is in you having Support you having fans, right? You know I'm saying a person that has 50 million followers on Instagram What is the manager gonna do for them right introduce somebody to take more money?

I'm not saying in cases that you're not gonna need that But it's becoming more where the artists can negotiate their own thing and the whole thing is knowing what your worth is And then I've always been like my negotiator people always tell me what's your price? I? Really don't it all depends on what the need is and what it is And I've never been a person that try to just hit you in the head I try to build relationships with people for a long time now for just one shot. When Dave did the Netflix special and he called a lot of flack for the transgender joke. So we ain't got no non-Dave questions?

Yeah. I just want just one more. He's able to tell... Can I call Dave, tell his niggas to come and do this interview? I'll restart. I'll restart. He said, that's why I'm here. He said, that's why I'm here. He said, that's why I'm here. He's like, who the next nigga that was on your show?

You ain't doing it. You know Dave. No, no. The transgender joke. I've never seen the guy. His joke or my joke? His joke. I've never seen a guy, and even when he did the Saturday Night

Live, that monologue that he did there, the way he can tell a story, the way he can weave you in and out. And you don't even realize it. Because I get what he was saying. I really, really beg you to come see me live. Where you gonna be at? I'll let you know. But go ahead, continue. Dave again. Dave, Dave, Dave, Dave, Dave. I'm joking. When he stood, Netflix stood behind him. And you've mentioned something that this council culture, before long, is going to be done away with.

Yeah. Because you were giving people too much power. People that have built something over 25, 30 years. Right. And they make one mistake. Right. And it's gone. Yeah, but see, it's see, certain people can be canceled.

Certain people can't be canceled. People that don't like, first off, what counselor culture wants to do, they want to stop your bread. First they want to do, they can't wait to say, the agency dropped him. So-and-so dropped him. They want to stop your money.

When they're powerless, when they can't stop your money. Correct. You know what I'm saying? The situation with him, and there are some artists like that. I would say Chris Rock is one of those artists. It can't be canceled. They built a base, and I think I'm not at that level, but I think I'm uncounseled because I'm not on a TV show. I'm not doing movies regularly. Last five or six years, any work I've got, it wasn't through auditions, it was because somebody said, we want this guy. But, you know, when you don't have to get a check

for somebody else, Ukrainian checks, you can't counsel a person. Is there a joke that you won't do? It's not a joke that I won't do because I'm irresponsible in the jokes I choose to use. Right. Now, the argument's been like, oh, I believe in freedom of speech, whatever. Yes, you have the freedom to say whatever you want.

Also note that there's some consequences will come with what you say, and there's a possibility there may be some backlashes. I encourage white people to use the N word all day. I say use it so you can see how it feels to use it. If you think you're that strong and you want to make the Argument when I can use it use it but then this is what's gonna happen It's consequences to anything that you say it do right my one of my phrases is a joke could be too soon But it never could be too soon for a funny observation, right? That's what my comedy is

I think that's what some of the best comedians thing is right there are some times I mean you said some some some LB some LBTQ jokes, Asian jokes. I mean, when you say a joke, do you know like, I don't know if I should have. Yeah. You just go. No, I do know that. And then the ones that make me, oh no, those ones I want to do the most. Yeah, because I'm just saying it's like, I like there there's there's something to be said about a comic that speaks from their point of view and how they feel. If that's what comedy is, if that's what comedians are supposed to do, supposed to go places, because they're supposed to be like, The best, it all depends on who it is. Okay. Do you have some comics, you have some comics that would never do that because they're in the business with corporations they're in this business that's where they make their money you know I'm saying

you have some of them that don't but it's all depend it all depends I know some some comments like I say Jim Gaffigan you're gonna never hear Jim Gaffigan do a straight up dick and pussy joke but he might water it down and use substit so worse web because he's protecting his bag, right? Whatever you got to do protect your bag Whatever your bag is my bag has been grinding for the longest right so I don't have to I don't have to protect it like that You're friends with Joe Rogan, right? Yeah How did I mean Joe went from a kid I mean I Didn't know Joe was comedian when I first was introduced to Joe Rogan was Fear Factor.

Right, a lot of people. And then the next thing I know, he's basically the voice of the UFC. He's calling fights. And then obviously he's a pretty good standup comedian from what I hear. I don't really get into it like that. So what is the yin and the yang?

How did you and Joe become cool? Well, Joe, we became, first off, I know of Joe from Field Practition, from the Chappelle Show. And then he was like a really big part of the comedy store vibe there. Like he's been a big name for years. And of course, it's podcast, but I never ever like was like,

hey Joe, I'm so and so and so and so. My introduction to people, I want them to see me perform. You know what introduction to people, I want them to see me perform. Right. You know what I'm saying? I want them to see me perform. He would see me pass in the comedy store. And then he knew my reputation that I was a funny guy.

OK. Then we exchanged words, whatever. And then one thing led to another, where I did his podcast. And it was interesting, because I heard Miss Pat was on the show. Yes. And Miss Pat was like, people got upset with her because she kept it real.

Right. And I'll double down and say, I know that's his character. Because when I did his podcast for the first time, I was like, I want to come off the road, man. I don't want to work as much on the road because I want to spend one time with my son. But I don't make money in Hollywood. I was like, I need to make money in Hollywood.

He was like, just start a podcast. I'm like, it's not that simple. He was like, and I'm saying to myself, there ain't no money in podcasts like that. And then I Googled him. I was like, okay, so let's talk about that. Let's talk about that, right? But he had the top of the food chain though. But this is what I'm gonna tell you. This is what I want to say. And when I watched the one with Miss Pet, I was like, she right. That's the type of person he is. But our own people are so critical of each other.

When Joe said, Don-El, I was like, how do I get subscribers like that? He said, just do a podcast. On a tape recorder, anything. Just do it. I'll tweet it out. You'll get some licks off of that. Then you do all the other podcasts. Next thing you know, be on.

Guess what? I did it. I came out the gate with like 7,000 subscribers off of that and people can say what they want to say. I'm so sick of the black, white, that type of shit. There's some people that stand up people and they say what they're going to do. He's one of them. As much as people want to say, well the people ain't not funny. Guess what them white boys have figured out a thing to do They figured out a way to make other make each other rich. Yes They support each other. They have a system. They just support each other. They have a

System they have a system. All right this person Okay, let's say guess what? Everybody ain't gonna be the funniest fanning or who's gonna be the? Everybody ain't gonna be the funniest Fanny, but who's gonna be the best business people who gonna be the best hustlers or whatever and they have a system that They make each other stars Why Black people don't do that I want you to be a star. I just don't want you to be bigger than me So that means I that means you don't want me to be a star. Okay, well, I want you that's why you don't want you

Oh now, let me be a star first. Right? They don't look they don't look at it like that No that crew they could say I don't give a fuck All right. You already heard my feelings about my son. So just go wherever it goes But they where is that sense of unity? Always talk shit Why isn't of unity, always talk shit. Why isn't Spike Lee the most sought after director doing the biggest movies and everything? What y'all wanted?

We want him to do black movies, blah, blah, blah, blah. I'm doing black movies, black action and everything. Guess what? You ain't going to see my movies. So I'm gonna have no power. When does it stop? And then at the end of the day, you can take, race everything away,

you got good people and bad people. Yeah, on both sides, absolutely. And in a relationship, no matter what anybody thinks about, whatever relationship I have with him, he's always been the stand up guy to me, always picking my call, and always been like do you need anything? I got you you can only base What you know about a person through personal experience, right?

So somebody else judging Joe Rogan that's never been around Joe Rogan and you having a personal relationship with Joe Rogan and saying this Is how he is with me, but you can't do that Shannon because people want the relationship they have with you They want you to have a similar relationship. They do. They want you to have a similar relationship. I'll give you an example, Kid Rock. Yeah. Kid Rock is a good friend of mine. I met Kid Rock during what was doing

his summer shows in Ohio. Because Kid Rock is a provocateur. He say some dumb shit out of me all the time. I get that. I don't think that that is, I think it's two people. I think it's Bob Richie and it's Kid Rock. Right.

Kid Rock is a provocateur They're once to talk some shit to get you stirred up Bob Richie is a person I met in Yellow Springs, Ohio when nobody want to talk to him Nobody want to take a picture with him We floating down a river and I'm talking to him right and he's right beside me on a boat Saying Donnell. I feel like I just went through 12 hours of anger management. Thank you I saw a guy that that's that's the one that I know right? I saw a guy that was doing a comedy festival in Nashville Donnell. I think you funny. Thank you. Thank you

Thank you for showing me love whatever would you be interested in doing this? I saw a guy they had a show the grand grand old opry one of them White established you want to say I? Did the show. Seven comedians. Six of them white. I'm the only black comedian. I go on last.

I close the show. Shannon, I knew what I did. It was all magas. It was all magas. It was not somebody from the left. It was not an LBG. It was not somebody from the left. It was not an LBG. It was the only letters in there.

It was M-A-G-A. Capital. Capital. All I saw was Star Spangled Banner and shit. You know what I'm saying? Red, white, and blue, God bless America. And I said to myself, oh man, fuck that. But I was saying, where's my job? I'm a comedian.

Can I go out here and rock these muffins? I did, I closed the show, 35 minutes, no politics, no nothing, caught a standing ovation. At the end of a backstage kid rock, he said, man, I think we might've just brought America back together. I said, and don't separate it. That's it. But your, like you said,

your personal experience is different from mine. Yes. And a person can be like this, but he says so and so, do I give a about it? Yes. Do I tell him sometimes, come on, man, you can't say that. Right. It don't make no sense to say it.

But that, and I say say that's one of the things that I really appreciate about what I've built for myself with my father and everything is that when at my if you kind of one of my shows it's not just all black people it's not just all white people it's a mix of everything it's um it's America. Dating. You got a nine year old, old ass with a nine year old. But anyway, that's neither here nor there. Why you wake so late? You know, the level of disrespect that question is, for a man with no kids.

Who ain't got no kids? I ain't talking about you. Out kid me, nigga. All right. Out kid me. No, no, you know how hurtful that is for a guy. And when I say that myself, that thought that he was already settled into the fact that he probably never had no kids, which is mentally for a man, it's a tough thing.

I had already said, you know what, you're probably not going to have no kids. You got nephews. You got kids. Did you want kids? Yeah, but the situation just didn't happen. And I just wasn't shooting up the club like that. You know what I'm saying? Oh, okay.

Yeah, I wasn't a raw dogger like that. So I be, okay. Nah, you saying like you proud? You been going raw longer than me? God. Oh, he like, yeah, I been getting that heat for the longest. Nah, no. But what I'm saying was, I'm saying was, it just didn't happen. I was in relationships where it would be like two years, three years, then start all over

and shit like that. But then it just happened. I did have him later in life, but I don't have no regrets about it. Sometimes I do think, what if I would have started earlier, whatever, but then you'll go crazy thinking about it. Sometimes I do think what if I would have started earlier, whatever, but then you'll go crazy thinking about that. I'm just happy that, you know, and then, did I have a beautiful son? Yes. Don't yes me about my son, please. What about marriage then?

What? Marriage? Yeah. It's probably 1000% out of the cart for me. What? I got a son. That's black marriage. Yo, it's going to be one of the other. Have a clear no marriage, son. You got one, you got one. Yeah, it's gonna be one of the other. Have a kid or marriage, son. You got one, you got one, you don't get a boba.

Yeah, I got one, boom. And then when she said, I remember she was like, she knew what the baby was, I said, boy or girl, she said, what do you want? I said, ooh, I said, boy, boom. I was like this, I'm out. Rollins' name continues. Yeah. But my happiness come through him and my happiness come through what I do.

Have you ever caught someone cheating on you? You say you had a dream. I don't think I caught nobody cheating on me, but I know in the past I cheated so much, I know I had to pay them taxes. You got to look back. I'm pretty sure of it. I'm 1,000% sure, but you got to pay. I'm like, ah. It was time to reverse that in sooner or later. Yeah, but I'm pretty sure of it. I'm 1000% sure, but you gotta pay. I'm like, ah, it was time to reverse daddy sooner or later. Yeah, but I'm pretty sure. Talk to everybody, but I look at it, I look at cheating like this, like mother, no good, go to the next question. I will add toxic relationship. Who more toxic, women or men? You know what a toxic man is going to say? Women. You crazy bitches. They don't understand us. Yeah, the most toxic, the craziest.

Oh, because I didn't come home last night. You tripping? Oh, why you going through my phone? Would you consider yourself toxic? By definite, yeah, I do think I'm not. But see, damn, if I don't think I'm toxic, then I'm a narcissist. I'm a nigger.

Put everything in there. Gaslight, toxicity, narcissism, love bombing. I do all of that type shit. And that's what make men men. We ain't gonna be perfect. You and your goddamn therapist About this shit, I'm all of them All of them every mental health word you can use on me

Toxics narcissism with all of that. I am a good. Yeah through all of that. You know what? This is something to be said A lot of people have better relationships and relationships should be strengthened if women would just stay the f*** out of cell phones. There you have it. The urgency, they gotta know. If I'm a knight in shining armor if you stay the f*** away from my phone. I'm from this place. They're gonna never understand this logic. Your hallmark movie guy. Yeah, I'm like this. What did I do for you to think

that you want to f*** with my phone? You know what women say? I had this feeling. It was just something inside me. Did you have that feeling when we was in Abu Dhabi? Did you have that feeling when we was at the shopping spree? When do you have this feeling? And what do you want from that feeling? Nobody understands. Shaq says something close to this. I'm coming home to you. I'm so and so. Shaq, stay out of my phone. Oh, wow wow what you got to hide? No I ain't got nothing to hide. So a man you can't have no level of privacy in everything about my life. You need to be privy to it. It don't make no sense. And you know what a f*** is a foul. You know what a f*** is a foul. You know what a muf*** is a foul. Oh I didn't answer my phone. Oh I fell asleep on my man couch. You know the file So why you why you want to play with that? It don't make no sense

First of all, I say the strongest drug in the world is a woman One of my mentors said Donnell this is when your career really takes off. When you're gonna knock down everything you wanna knock down, you're gonna have that experience, that's when it takes off. Cause he said, Donnell, you gotta remember this. No, this is what he said, no pussy is gonna be better than new pussy.

And once you get to the point where you don't need new pussy or chase it, that's when shit starts to exchange. Cause the men always gonna have the drive to want to do something with somebody. But eventually you get to a point like, is it worth it? And I think that what happens is, you've been in so many situations where the consequences of your actions,

you realize, guess what? Most of us know how to be good men. We know how to do it. Because you can look at every bad relationship prepares you for the next relationship. And you know like how did this one? Because I did this right once we get to the point where we say we don't want to do that Then that's when you'll get to that point Do you want more kids?

I I because al Pacino had one at 83 so you waived from that. I ain't gonna do that I think would be unfair to that kid, but I did when I did I I wish After austin, I wish that I would have had another one right at that just because he is built to be a big brother. And he just got that part of him. But you know, she's so young that she could pop off. Yeah, I'm like, 23.

She 23. Yeah, I'm like, don't she 23rd Darnell 20 you oh why you didn't date her mom? Why'd you go for the Darnale Didn't date her mom because What did not date him? Oh, yeah Didn't date her mom because Why didn't I date her mom? Yeah good question No wait I'm asking the question No no no

Because Say the Donnell Rollins show Love is love If you don't Love is love I agree with you What? You like them young dog

I St. Drake I heard you No Don't do that I don't like them I don't like them young I like a young. I like what I love I Didn't groom nobody son. It is what it is But I can't take nobody my age to get what I wanted what I look like getting a 48 yo bitch pregnant

It's possible. It could have happened, but I ain't what them odds It could have happened, but I ain't what them odds Hold on she was on bad girls club. Yes, you like bad girls. I made her a good girl niggas say that's been another question You like talks I was going through a transition in my life And if somebody made me feel good about myself that I knew in the future I was gonna have a beautiful son that you was gonna try to ruin the relationship I have with him by talking about did he see you between did he legs? I saw the future of this show before we got damn did it. All right, and I didn't break no laws I didn't know yes, she's a lot lot lot lot lot younger than me, but that's what it was

I gave my opportunity. I get myself opportunity Why you hating on me? What y'all be that forever 21? Why you hating on me? Where y'all be at, Forever 21? Yo, y'all ain't got a laugh that hard, son. You know what? I just try to figure out that. I mean, where you be this 23 year old at? Because I mean, hey, 23, I think I'm a couple of years older than you, I go 33.

So I just need to know. 23, 33, they probably in the same area. Maybe we can hang out. I'm not f***ing with you. I am not hanging with you. Okay, what I want to say, there was a part of my life where someone gave me a certain energy that I needed. And they expressed to me,

I wasn't out there on no playgrounds. I didn't have R. Kelly in the background. And they expressed to me that they, this is how they get you, I like older men. Bing, bing, bing, bing, bing. Right. You like younger women. Can I finish my sentence? Go ahead, go ahead.

You can switch to do interview yourself. If you want to do that, give them another mic. Nope. No, it was just, it was something that happened my life It was timing it was me coming off a really another relationship. Mm-hmm, and I just felt this person made me feel good mm-hmm and That turned into a relationship where I had a beautiful son That's it?

What y'all mean? How do you ask that? I'm interested. I'm an older guy myself. We were... We, I was working on this show in New York, and we both had a social media manager, whatever,

shared same person. She worked on the show too? No, she was on the show, as you just said. I'm not embarrassed about that. No, you shouldn't be. No, that was the case, and this person kept on saying, like, y'all energy, y'all funny, the sense of humor, whatever, that we want to show out to me.

And I'll be quite honest, I wasn't excited about it. I wasn't excited about it because of that show. I just wasn't excited about anything. Then I was going through a point in my life where I was like, I don't need to be with nobody right now. But then I met her. And then this is how our relationship just start. You feel and see all the good things.

And there's somebody that knows, now I won't say pray on it, but they know what makes you feel good. And at that time, everything about our conversations and everything I felt good about. And it was like small test. This might be my new to you, right? But I remember I had took her shopping. And we were at this mall and when I go shopping I'm

like just, I ain't looking on tags or nothing. Pop, pop, pop, pop, pop. And there was three pairs of pants on that right? And the pants was like, I was like, you like those? The pants were like 225 jeans. They both was 225 pair. I said, you like those? She said, yeah.

I said, why'd you put it back? And she said, I couldn't see myself. And this was my money I was putting up. She said, I couldn't see myself paying $225 for a pair of pants. And I know that feels weird, but I was like, I'm not mad at that answer. Yeah, that's good. In a situation where you could have been like,

I'm going to just, answer. Yeah, that's good in a situation where you could have been like this I'm gonna just wow and and that started conversation And then again, she was in my life made me feel a certain way and made me feel a certain way Literally and figuratively when I needed to feel a certain way, right? That's what happened and then some short time period after that we um, I had a kid I And then some short time period after that, we had a kid. I saw you had interviewed Dr. Umar. Obviously, Umar, he's very pan-Africanism is the word that he used. Just say he's very not us.

What do you mean us? You know what us mean. You know what us mean. No. You know what? Don't even try it. You know us. What do you mean us? You know what us mean. You know what us mean. You know what, don't even try it. You know us. What? Sustas. That don't even fall off your lips right, son. It's like somebody in your ear like this, like say it, say it, say it. You know, he's not like us. They not like us. No, no. They not like us. I don't know what you talking about, daddy. I know you know what the fuck I'm talking about. Not at all. Give me my cards.

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and the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. I don't know what you're talking about. Why do you believe that interracial dating is such a big, a hot topic in our community? Why is it a hot topic? Again, sp-t-t-t-. Now I can understand your feelings on inter-race. This might sound crazy and ooh, we'll f*** this up. I could understand that shit if we were still like marching like in 1940, but god damn nigga, we got so many examples

of what a bi-race relationship has created. You know what I'm saying? We got so much of like it don't necessarily mean Everybody ain't trying to fight the power all the time. Right? I like how my friends I said fight the power downstairs I'm this freedom fighter right now Yo, yo, I said it in my spud I said, the dopest blowjob you ever gonna get is a reparations blowjob. I don't give a f*** and you laugh because you know, you know, you don't give a holla

holla. What's the difference? What's the difference? Between what? Yo, yo, you ever had a reparations blowjob? I don't get that, I like that. Oh man. Oh man. They always talk about where's the lies, right? All lies will be exposed right here. I don't, I can understand the sentiment of Dr. Umar I can understand that I just don't subscribe to Somebody should be only dating a certain person. Yeah, and whenever you say that they say that's the language of a bunnyhopper

So what? Whatever fuck makes you happy, right? That's how I feel So I'm just supposed to be with anybody just they treat me like crap just find somebody else on That's not always the case. But why can't I be with something? Why can't I be with anybody. They treat me like crap, just find somebody else. That's not always the case. But why can't I be with the person that likes me? You can, but then what does it say? Then you're taking away. Oh, you're taking the money out of the black community.

Everybody takes money out of the black community. Yeah. I mean, I can't talk about it. Oh, you you bunny hopping. I've hopped. I'm a hopper. Is your son mixed? My son is mixed with Salvadorian and black. Oh. Yeah.

Latina? Selena. Yeah, I have a beautiful son too. Yeah, the DNA was cracked on that one. I system up Somebody say oh Daniel you met you you you are you are Got that pretty girl pregnant I'm like, do you think I want to get my pretty that looks like me pretty girl pregnant. I'm like, do you think I want to get somebody pregnant that looks like me? We got to balance this shit off. I ain't going to have no good hair, nowhere. Did Tyrese really get mad at you for making fun of him for crying? Yeah, he did, but I didn't give a f***. Did he reach out to you?

No, he reached out and he slid in my DM, pause, no did he? But it was something, I did a joke about, I used his face as a crying Mike face. Oh, I expect that from somebody that I don't fuck with. I'm like, nigga, I didn't saw you twice in my life. Now, would he hit you with? Yeah, he said something about, oh, I expect that because I made a joke about him crying faces. Dismissing the fact that I'm committing

and dismissing the fact that the nigga cried too much. Shut the fuck up. I wish somebody, you know the phrase, take his phone? Somebody really need to take Tyree's phone. We don't need to know every second of your f***ing life. I respect you as an artist, I respect what you've done, but damn man,

I wish you would just shut the f*** up. Have you got a lot of that? People ask you to take down posts, to stop making jokes about them? No. People don't do that. You wasn't you to take down posts, to stop making jokes about them. Nah, people don't do that. You wasn't gonna do it anyway, huh? I wasn't gonna do it, I've never considered it. And the reason why I say that,

because I'm really selective on what I put out there. And I'm like, if you can't take this, you're just overly sensitive and I can't cater to that. And if I do that, then I'll be taking posts down for everything. No disrespect to Tyrese or anything like that, but I personally think that someone needs to take his phone. Because we, I know you want to be in touch with your fans.

We don't need to be a part of your whole journey. Right. We don't need to do that. Let me ask you this. What was the best comedy stand-up experience you've had? You've been on Deaf Comedy Jam, Showtime at the Apollo, Comic View. For me, the best comedy experience I've had

was when I did my special, because no matter what you think of that special, it felt like I really knew what I was doing. Like, from Dave's, I scratched it twice, I felt like the next one I'm doing, the next one I do, I know exactly. I know what point of view it is. I know beginning, middle, and end.

I know that during that show, I captivated the audience. So for some reason, as long as I've been doing it, and I've been doing it for 30 plus years, it was that special that I was like this, oh, now I know what it means to be a professional comic when the stakes are up. Because you can just, people say, well, I seem to be funny, whatever.

There's one thing to be in a comedy club with no pressure, but when those lights are on, somebody's money is there, and you trying to duplicate what you did all these years to that, it's something. I just felt like when I did my special, New Day, it was something that made me feel like I know what I'm doing now. And even after that, people that come to my shows,

they're like, oh, I didn't know if he was gonna do stuff from the special. No joke from my special is there, it's and I and I'm still I'm still getting better the set for a special you say a special is gonna be an hour are you doing all new material are you doing material that you like you fine-tuned like some of the jokes obviously special the special. Yes the special you doing stuff that you what this is what I felt I wanted to do because you want a clock you on a time you want people's money I wanted to feel like I wanted a special day, but I wanted

To be open enough where something happens in the moment I can do that which makes it very organic But a lot of times you don't have the I can do that, which makes it very organic. But a lot of times, you don't have the flexibility to do that, you still, it's like, buy the book, buy the book. But when I do my show, even my show today, or whenever you see me, I'll probably buy, 50% of stuff is what I wanna do, and I wanna do my, I wanna keep myself open

for what could happen. Right. Wow. So, let me ask you a question, how much do you like So I wanna keep myself open for what could happen. Right, good. Wow. So let me ask you a question. How much do you like when you go on stage, do you like, you've rehearsed, you like written down? Because Marlon says, I don't write down anything. I'm going up there, I'm free, I'm free.

I'm just going with the flow. And then I've had others say, hey, I got a set. I know what I wanna go. I wanna go boom, boom, boom, boom. Hey, I might alter here or there according. But I don't never have. I don't have a script. But I do like it's a certain points I want to do.

Me, the best sets I have when I'm working with the emotions I'm dealing with that day, if I'm having some drama, family stuff, whatever, if I can kind of turn that into stand up. But I'm not like some people they are like Chris Rock Chris Rock is not he's not gonna deviate. I've seen Chris Rock prepare for special. Yes, but I pop up I he's a he's a Professional he's professional and his pin game is crazy But me I want to be able to talk to about something but how do I get there? Right?

I'm looking at you know, Jamie Foxx called you a beast. You worked with Chris and Dave on the, because you was on the, at the Hollywood Bowl, you went to the Hollywood Bowl. Yeah. So were you there when the guy rushed the stage? I wasn't there, and I was a part of that tour, but I had another gig I was doing, one of my gigs, and that was the only show doing that run to that mist. I was, it's so funny because I was on a flight, and before I was taking off, somebody said,

they just attacked Dave on stage, and I was like, flight and before I was taking off somebody said they just attacked Dave on stage And I was like, oh like I'm gonna take a parachute Like I'm gonna save him, but I wasn't at that show Chris Rock recently entered the billionaires private once he found out somebody was recording how you how serious are you about recording your shows? It's weird. I think that, like, in my shows, I make sure the emcee announces that no recording rights. I'm not going to let that ruin my show. Because even though somebody is recording your set, it's not going to take away from people seeing you live and seeing you put it on a platform that you're gonna do it. It doesn't matter if somebody records.

I wish people would take more time to be involved with the show and not record. But if somebody recorded my shit, it's not gonna stop them from watching on Netflix or going to see me live. But it's like a funny situation. Did you get upset at Kat for what he said on my platform? A lot of people got mad at me.

They said, because you allowed Kat. I'm like, allow? I mean, I have asked somebody, I invite you in to have a conversation. I don't know where you're going, just like I didn't know what you were going to say here today. I didn't get mad, but my thing is like, you got people with problems and people with solutions. My only thing was that, and I listened to it, like I said earlier, you haven't said anything that people don't know about Hollywood.

Then my thing is, what do you want out of this? All right, so-and-so stole my joke. Write another joke. And even when I listen to it, it's so easy. Sir, first off, if a can that easy steal your joke, guess what? It ain't the best joke I've done. Mark Carey was upset, like, oh, Steve Harvey did a joke about Halloween.

I'm like like who don't got a Halloween costume joke who don't got a joke about I was a poor we dress up like ghosts I was a poor I dressed up like a UPS man who don't have those jokes and then it may sounds crazy but writing a joke I used to when I first started I used to be all that motherfuckers stole my joke he stole my style I'm like this I didn't get nowhere with that. I had beef with comments I'm like this all that does for me is like, you know what first off if motherfuckers say a joke go fight them That's how it used to be when I was coming up it ain't like you didn't have no blog you go fight them

That stole your joke. Oh, yeah. Yeah, if you knew it you just step to him If you ain't gonna step to them, what are you mad about? If anything, write another f***ing joke. But not only that, usually when you hear somebody, someone stole a joke, the joke is so easy to steal that what are you complaining about? And that's when you go deeper into you as a comic because now, alright, people used to steal my show. I was like, you know what?

That joke was stealable. You can have it. Then I got to go back into myself. That's what I'm talking about point of view. You can't steal a joke about a relationship I have with my son. You can't steal a joke. I have a relationship with any relationship I have. You can't steal that joke.

It would force you to be more creative. But a lot of this shit is just bullshit. How have you been able to appeal to two different audiences? Because you have crossover appeal. Obviously, like you said, you came up in the Chitlin circuit. You can black comment, you can be in a black room filled with blacks. You can go, rooms like you said you had in Nashville,

you had basically audience, none of them looked like Darnell Rollins. How have you been able to make that transition? White bitches. What? I don't know nothing about that Darnell. I'm sorry. I'm not there Darnell, I'm not there. No, I didn't, okay I'm sorry U.

Sorry U. I didn't mean for white bits. Explore different cultures. Yes. Be involved. The reason why I've been, because I just don't have one group of friends. I like to drive around my block. Right. That's it.

Yes. Your block is a little like me. Your block is a cul-de-sac. Yeah. And people like me live in it. Bunny? No. I don't know what, and people like me live in it. Bunny? No. I don't know what, Darnell, where did you get that from?

I want to know who told you that? I ain't going, I don't have no resources. But it's all over your face. No, it's not. It is all over your face. But you see how, you see how probably... Even the way you talk is different, you see? You enunciate now, son.

Yo, you said I beg your pardon. You got index cards. What the are you talking about? You see how powerful the internet is? What? Somebody said that and ran with it and not everybody believes that. I believe, I believe that, all right,

I believe that you are a hopper. You a hopper. You a hopper. You might hopper. You a hopper. You might have a t-shirt on for a photo op. No, but y'all want me to- You might wear a darker stash, sheekie on your birthday. No.

You can't hop in here. All that tried, obviously, they say that because they want me to reveal. Right. And I won't fall for the banana in the tailpipe. Don't, see, even, even the phrases you use, that's very white. Okay, what about the- Banana in the tailpipe.

What about the Okie-Dokie? Okie-Dokie's better, but that's not what you said. You said banana, and you said the old banana in the tailpipe. That's a bunnyhopper right there, son. All they had to hit me with the bluh-bluh-bluh-blah-blah. No. Let me ask you a question.

Because the reason why, because I'm culturally diverse. Burst. And I don't just associate with just one type of people. Right. One of my friends, this is what my friend, this is what he said. He said, man, you're gonna have a good time with Shannon. I said why?

He said, because y'all both like black and white. I like women. No, now he wasn't talking about the women, he was talking about black and white in regard to like, you know, like, okay, let's say I got a guy, like, I like, I like- Oh, it's this, it's this. It's this. and you know what? It may sound insulting, but I know what he meant by that. And I'm gonna tell you,

this has been a dilemma in my career, and I didn't find out until like a year ago. I was talking to this promoter, and I was doing a show, and I was talking about these black package shows, right? And it's like, it's always like, some more, it's always earthquake, it's all these people. And I asked him, I said, Yeah, and I asked him I said

Yo, and I love everybody. I just named I said how did why do they keep missing me? Why I'm not on these shows they say Donnell I pitched you for this show I don't I'm the one who got your show. He said but a lot of promoters think you're a white comedian right and what they meant by that was because My audience and what I can appeal to is black and white so they don't think that I'm a black comic. And plus what they see you pull up to the arena with. So that might have something to do with it.

It has everything to do what I'm saying is the diversity. Yeah, you know I was like but I want I want all the money but that's then when my friend said it about you is like Cuz y'all you both built a soul to both. Yeah, what's wrong with that? they Because they want they want you to love one and then hate the other Well, I can't walk it's kind of like the Angel Reese Caitlin Clark Why can't I like Caitlin Clark and Angel Reese? Why do if I like a Caitlin Clark? I gotta hate Angel Reese

Why do if I like Angel Reese, I gotta hate Caitlin Clark Why can't I like both? The reason why it's because this world just feels feeds off of all negative They gotta make you pick it you got to choose a side. You got to choose sides and it's all negative Like even what I say when it comes to the internet, whatever, guess what? Bad guys could win on the internet. You know, when I first started, you had to be likable to sell tickets. You know what I'm saying? But now you could be hated and still make money

because at the end of the day, it's always about the engagement and who is gonna be the most interested and give you the most engagement. Politics, do you stay away? Do you make sure, do you try to stay away from political? I tried to. It was one time when I used to put my political views first and in the forefront because I

was passionate and felt something away about it. But I also realized that who comes to my shows and everything, and it's easier for me to, I'm very selective on what I talk about because there's not just two types of people, there's a lot of people that pay my bills when it comes to that. So even when I talk about politics, I don't do it in a way where I'm going to turn somebody off. I do it in a way where we all can laugh about it. Like even on the Trump shit, it used to be, I used to be like, yo, fuck Donald Trump or whatever.

Or I could say that, and that's easy, the black audience is easy, you're gonna win with that. But now, I'll give you an example. I was like, you know, if I had to ask Donald Trump one question, the question would be is, where did you get a brand new ear in 72 hours? Right? That disarms you, I'm talking about what I'm talking about, and you don't have to get upset right and then out people like

What Donald Trump is example? Yeah People tell me Donald Trump is racist My question is if most corporations you tells my you ask me where you were who you work for I work for AT&T how many employees a thousand people, you know, 200 and probably racist but they don't wear the costume or races I said I'm too successful and I work too hard to care about all racists. Why would I care about a racist gas attendant? You work at the gas station, not me. You know, I don't do shit like anybody, but I do certain things you have to talk about.

It's hot bed conversation and I will, but I'm not trying to separate my audience. You went to the high school, T.C. Williams. Remember the Titan? You remember what my best friend Keith Burns went to that high school. You on that championship? You weren't on that championship team.

That was before you. Oh, you have a nice way to call me old. But I, it's okay. He ought to be you! Who? Burns. No, he not. I'm older than team. That was before you. Paul, you have a nice way to call me old. But I- It's okay. He older than you! Who? Burns! No, he not. I'm older than Keith. How older you? You mean you're the same age?

You know- I'm 56. I'm older than you. I just turned 57, December 6th. Well, you weren't on that championship team. I know I'd have been 70-something if I was on that championship team. That's what I'm trying to say. No, Burns won the championship his senior year.

No, he didn't. Oh, Lord. Remember the Titans when that wasn't a championship, he won. No, I'm saying, no, that was, no, the championship that they, Burns, them won the last one. That was in the 70s. I think Coach Boone won the first championship in the 70s. Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, no, no, Keith, they didn't win the championship.

Yeah, they did. We can talk about that later. We gon' bet $50. They say you stole the ball from Kevin Durant, drained the three on the three. Oh, son! Yo, did y'all got the video? We gon' show it. Yeah, yeah.

I'm tellin', that was one of my greatest moments. Now we back on, I love you, man. But what about the time you got hurt? I don't wanna hear about the time about that. Let's talk about the first other one first. But we go back to that. No, what you was talking about. Okay, Kevin Durant, he tried to hit you

with a crossover, right? Yeah. You stole the ball. Can I tell my story? Go ahead, tell the story. All right, so boom. First off, Big Ticket does an annual Celebrity. Subbie game, right?

And I know they didn't want me on the team because they said they didn't have my shoe size. I was like, I wear a nine. Y'all always got nines around here. They had no jerseys. They didn't have nothing. I come on there, Karon Butler, he our coach. They called me in the game. I don't know why they called me in the game.

They called me in the game. Kevin Durant bringing the ball up. I feel like freaky Zeke. Did I put him in the fool Nelson, then I swung him around? All right. So he tried to dribble the ball into my legs. I don't know what happened. I stole the ball, right?

Man, I didn't know what to do with that. I'm going down to court. I picked Kevin Durant pocket. Right. OK. OK. And I'm going down to court. And I was like, if I try to go over to the basket, I'm going to double dribble, so I'm going to be stupid. So I pulled up at the three. You pulled

up like Steph Curry? Y'all got the receipts. I pulled up with the three. Boom. Y'all saw how I did it, right? So I was like this. I dribble, boom. You see? Okay. And then let me tell you a story. So I'm like this. Behind the back, I did it behind the back, flipped it again, between the legs, he come in, pushed him out the way, took the ball, I pulled up. But when I pulled up, I pulled up in slow motion, because I wanted the moment to be forever. So I- You feel like you frozen time.

Yeah. What I did was, I pulled up with the left, right? Yeah. The right coming next I pulled up with the left Right. Yeah, the right coming next. I ain't with the left. I was like then on the way down I take it Didn't reverse it Right. Yeah first. I went up with this you in there. Let me tell my motherfucking story This all in here cuz you know my vertical like 43 I was just 10 seconds in the air. So I pulls up like this. I'm shooting it, right? Right.

I said, nah, because he was going to try to block it. Pulled it back down. Damn. What I was going to do was do it behind the back pass, but he wasn't open. So I said, nah, I got five seconds left, right? I pulls back up, right. I pulls back up. I pulls back up. I pulls back up like that.

Bitches is going crazy. I pulls back up. Then it was like this. Money? Nah, it took a minute. Because that's how my angle is. My shit's like 30 seconds up there. So all the bitches can get pictures and shit.

So I pulls back up, he behind me trying to get the ball, everybody in slow motion like, oh shit. They looking like this? Let me tell my story, please. They like, oh shit, right? And I'm coming down, I hear everybody saying, oh shit. And then some said, red grant was there. And all of a sudden all you hear, I'm not an athlete. I never heard this in my career. They was like, oh shit.

And she learned, I was like, what nigga? I was like, what? And then I called time out. What you called time out for? I took myself out the game. You can't call time out if you make a shot, you don't have the ball. I don't play like that. I called time out, they was like, oh shit, Ashley Larratt.

And I was sitting back there like this, nigga. I was like this, right? And then Karam Butler, he act like I'm a threat from the outside. We start losing, he's like this, yo, you wanna get back out? I was like, it's over for me. I got a triple single. My career is over.

Boom, that's what happened. And y'all got the video. Yes. Yes. But till the time you hurt yourself dunking on that eight foot goal. You, um, you have what I call negative positive energy. You know, that's a good interviewer, sure. What happened was, this was after I hit that three point on Kevin.

So boom. You know a story can be funny when you say boom, right? So I'm in my baby mother house, you know her mother house, Stephanie house. I'm just, don't say what you about to say. I ain't gonna say nothing. What you doing to his baby? So the kids, they like this, they call me over here. They got, you know the rim?

Yeah. It goes 10 foot to eight foot, right? Right. I'm minding my business. I'm barbecuing, right? Minding my business, got a barbecue rack. They said, what you gonna do over here? I said, what?

I said, what y'all over here? I said, what? I said, what y'all gonna do is, y'all gonna, first off, put your camera on. This one Vine was out. I wanted them to Vine me. Vine was probably right. I said, Vine me. I said, what y'all gonna do is take a picture. They said, what you gonna do?

I said, first off, cause this coming off the Kevin Durant thing. Yeah, so you feeling good about yourself. Nice. I said, I'm gonna throw the ball off the backboard. I said, I'm gonna grab it. Cause you know the hang time I had in that last year. I said, I'm gonna grab it.

I said, I'm gonna do a 360. I said, I'm gonna do a 360. I said, I'm gonna, see what I have right here? I said, I'm gonna do a 360. Then I said, I'm gonna bang it. And I said, on'm going to do a 360. Then I said, I'm going to bang it. Right? And I said, on my way down, because I had a barbecue rag right here. I said, on my way down, I'm going to grab the rag, I'm going to wipe my face.

Y'all better catch that shit. They said, do it, old head. Right? That made me even madder. Gasp me. They had you gassed. They gassed me. All I remember, I went back and something said,

PAYA! Joe, I wish I came my pants too tight. I'll show you. Right here, Patella. You remember Patella? A toy. I said, something said, this out,

cause I'm in, I'm in Jersey too, so I'm nervous. I didn't know I f***ed my leg. I thought I got shot, but I didn't know who I was beefing with, right? I said, I can't believe Mike Gaffson rolled up, right? Okay. Yo, I thought Mike Gaffson had rolled up. That's another story.

Tell him, ask him how I saved his life. Anyway, so that's the, boom. Bam, right? Popped my leg, right? And I'm mad because I'm like, I can't believe my n***a let me get shot. Ain't nobody saying, go get that thang or leg, right? And I'm mad because I'm like, I can't believe my let me get shot. Ain't nobody saying go get that thing or nothing. And it was so up because the little kid was like a Spike Lee movie. The kids were looking over top of me like this.

Right? They was like, we don't even know what happened. He was only two inches off the ground. I thought I got shot and I was mad because nobody was trying to get at him. And here's the crazy thing about that. I was up when I did that. I was up for a role. What was that? Power was a power. Yeah, I was up for a role in power. Wow. Soon as I get my leg fixed out of surgery, my manager called me and said they wanted you for power. And I was like, my knee f**ked up. And Charlie Murphy got that role. That was the last role Charlie Murphy did. It was off of power. But that's

what it was. That was my whole career. Y'all saw what you did. You were pretty athletic because I read you were security guard at a grocery store and used to chase down crankheads. So you're pretty athletic, you could have been an athlete. Crankheads fast. How do you catch them?

First off, I wasn't a security guard at a grocery store. I was a general. Okay, you were a general guard atza's Door. I had rank. I had rank. And you don't chase them down. You put five carts in lane 17, you block, you gotta make them make their pattern go. Because they want to steal the shit and run out, but you got to make them go sideways. But that was my job I had before.

Before you got a company it where they go sideways. But that was my job I had before. Yeah. Before you got a comedy. Yeah. You promoting anything, tell us about anything you're promoting, you're performing, tell us where you're at next. I'm performing, just what I'm promoting. Okay.

Brotherhood. Okay. I'm on for that. Black excellence. You know, the crazy thing about this, my mother warned me about you. What I do? She said you was gonna say that. She said, baby, he going to say what I did, and you tell him. She said, don't drink the yak. I do have a podcast, and I know what it is. I should have did it earlier in the show.

It's called The Don Ayer Rawlings Show. It's on YouTube and all podcast platforms. I'm excited to be here. Thank you. I'm excited to be here. I didn't know that you was going to be the villain. No, no, no. We had a great conversation today. No.

Yeah, we did. I mean, we've been trying to do this for a minute now. Right. You've been dodging. Can I have my phone? You can call her, man. Yeah. I'm like fuck off. Is it on?

Oh man, my battery died? It did. Yeah, it died. Boy, you lucky. Well, see, hey, see, CJ, you see the Lord Lorden? You see how the Lorden want to do it? Yo, yo, yo, yo, yo. Look at the Lord Lorden.

Yo, yo, yo, yo. Charge my shit up, ask me two more questions. Ask me two more questions, charge my shit up. What the hell? Nah, ask me two more questions. What the hell? Look at the Lord Lord Yo yo yo Charge my shit up, ask me two more questions Ask me two more questions, charge my shit up Nah ask me two more questions

Look at the Lord Lord That was a Mike Epps story The what? Oh my God, I can't take it You beefing with Mike Epps? I wouldn't beef with Mike Epps I wouldn't beef with Mike Epps We out of here I wouldn't beefing with Mike Epps.

You were beefing with Mike Epps. I wasn't beefing with Mike Epps. He was beefing with you? I was. Well, I just, me and Mike Epps pretty much came to New York about the same time. He was a country dude from Indiana, Atlanta. I was a country dude from DC, Virginia. And me and him was like close friends.

We used to drive, we used to catch the subway together. Ride the subway together. They used to make fun of our country accidents. And we was guys that was getting on. Right? And some kind of way, doing that process, we fell in odds. Chick. I knew it. No, I wasn't a chick. What was it? Because I was never on the level with the chicks. Mike Epps always had some of the baddest joints. I wasn't that.

You might want to get him on the show and ask him. I got you. Ask him how I saved his life. I got you. I got you. I got you. Ask him how I saved his life. That's a good question. You saved his life?

I'm sorry. For saving his life? No. No. This concludes this episode of Club Shoot. No, no, no, no. I don't want to touch your ass. I want to call somebody. All right. That's the Lord, Lord. Won't he do it? Yo, you awful. Yo, that was **** up. Thank you Villa 66 at Resorts World for having Club Shea Shea here today. This brand new, spectacular two-bedroom entertainment villa on the 66th floor has a stunning view

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