Club Shay Shay - Nightcap - Bengals Upset Jaguars, Zach Wilson vs. Jets, $1M Bet

Episode Date: December 5, 2023

Shannon Sharpe and Chad "Ochocinco" Johnson react to the Cincinnati Bengals upsetting Trevor Lawrence and the Jacksonville Jaguars, Zach Wilson's drama with the New York Jets continues, the right way ...to act on a first date and much more! 00:00 - Introduction02:00 - Bengals beat Jaguars06:30 - Zach Wilson vs. Jets24:30 - Proper First date etiquette39:30 - Sheryl Lee Ralph moves for love53:00 - Chad & Shannon's million dollar bet #Club #Volume #HerdSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:02:47 Thank you for helping us get to 404,000 subs. I'm your favorite sports love, Shannon Sharp. He's your favorite number 85, Bengal legend. Guy that's extremely happy because his Bengals won the game tonight. Chad Ochocinco Johnson. We've also pinned Shea Balaportier at the top of the screen. Make sure you go grab your bottle for you or a loved one with the holidays right around the corner. So thank you again.
Starting point is 00:03:10 Click that like button. Click that subscribe button and make sure you get notified when Nightcap with Uncan Ocho is coming to YouTube. The Bengals beat the Jags in overtime. Ocho Browning, Jake Browning, 32-37. 354, a touchdown. Trevor Lawrence suffers a nasty ankle injury. And it's just not about this game. It's about the ramifications moving forward.
Starting point is 00:03:36 Because the Texans are right there nipping tuck on their heels in the AFC South. And if he's down for any substantial amount of time, this could be the opportunity that Texas need to overtake the Jags. But let's talk about your Bengals get a hard-fought victory on the road to keep their playoff hopes alive. 34-31, Jake Browning, 32-37, 354 to touchdown.
Starting point is 00:03:58 What'd you like about your Bengals tonight? I love it. They had a balanced tack. They had a healthy dose of not just the run, but also play action. A little RPO a little bit. Not full a healthy dose of not just the run, but also play action. A little RPO a little bit. Not full RPO because Browning is not one that's like Lamar Jackson to be able to run the ball. A nice dose of
Starting point is 00:04:13 passes to Tee, to Tyler. Chase has some big catches tonight. Big clutch catches. We look good. We look very efficient. I think Browning look exactly like I expect him to look outside of how he looked last week.
Starting point is 00:04:29 Okay, now you got two weeks under your belt. You got receivers that make your job somewhat easy. All you have to do is put the ball in a vicinity. You don't have to do much. You don't have to play hero ball.
Starting point is 00:04:40 Let them take everything else. And this is what you got today. You had a quarterback that all we need you to do is be efficient. Don't turn the ball over. Don't throw any picks. Take what the defense gives you and make sure we have a chance to win the game towards the end. And that's exactly what we got from him.
Starting point is 00:04:56 Yeah, I think T. Higgins coming back was a big boost for them. Obviously, now you got a guy that can also be one on one coverage when they start rolling coverage towards Chase. But Chase made some big time catches. He had a big touchdown run. That third, I think it was a third down when he caught it. He bobbled it and still somehow secured the catch before he went down. And I think that ended up leading to a field goal. It's those type of plays that really sets him apart from some of the other receivers. And that's what you expect from a 1A receiver. Guys make tough plays in tough situations.
Starting point is 00:05:27 But you're right. The Bengals played really well last night. I mean, tonight. Well, last night. Well, last night. Last night, yeah. It's past midnight. Yeah, you're right.
Starting point is 00:05:37 They played well last night. But they needed this Ocho. They really needed this victory to keep their playoff hopes alive. They couldn't afford to lose any more games because the Texans, like I said, but the Texans had already gone and beaten them. So the Texans do own the head-to-head matchup.
Starting point is 00:05:56 But now your situation where you get a little closer to Jacksonville because we don't know their situation. I think also the Broncos are also 6-6. And so you know you got the four division winners that get automatic berth, and then you have three wild cards. So
Starting point is 00:06:11 every game matters. But I, you know, Trevor Lawrence, man, that was Parker Washington. The reason why this happened is because Trevor wanted to throw the ball and he over there bulljjiving in the route. Bro, get your head around.
Starting point is 00:06:27 I was looking at number two on the replay, like what was he doing? Number 11. You mean the two receiver, but number 11, yeah. Yeah, yeah. It seemed like he thought it was like a run the way he came off the ball. You saw that too? Yeah, like he wanted to block somebody. I don't know where the miscommunication was at,
Starting point is 00:06:44 but he was right there. All he had to do was just turn. Turn around. But there was a miscommunication between him and the quarterback. And it's unfortunate. I know what Trevor got just based on what happened. It's a high ankle sprain. Mm-hmm.
Starting point is 00:06:57 Because he's planning, and the guy, the left tackle. Stepped on his ankle. Hendricks bulls him back. So now he's trying to brace, trying to catch him. And now he steps on Trevor's ankle, rolls it over. All that weight, man. All that weight. All that weight.
Starting point is 00:07:12 All that weight. Yeah. And you know, when you see a guy slam the ground, he knows he's injured. He takes his helmet off on the field. He slams it to the turf. He knows he's injured. This ain't something like, okay, just let me get to the sideline, re-tape it, I'll be okay. No, I'm injured, guys.
Starting point is 00:07:28 I'm injured. I ain't going to spring in on the joke. Let's get to this, Ochoa. This is what I want you to do. Your boy, Zach Wilson. Yeah, that's my – hey, Zach, that's my boy. I'm going to make sure you steal your boy after this. The Jets reportedly want to make the switch at quarterback.
Starting point is 00:07:44 The team is leaning towards Zach Wilson to take back over, but he's reluctant to stepping back in. Hold on. Aaron Rodgers reached out to Zach in an effort to advise him to resume the role as starter, but Wilson remained apprehensive due to the perceived injury risk. Hell no. And I don't blame him. And I don't blame him. I mean, I don't, man, listen, that's like, stay with me a little bit now. Stay with me, baby. The people that are watching, stay with me. Let's say you have a girlfriend in high school, right?
Starting point is 00:08:20 And y'all are dating. And all of a sudden, you know what? She say, you know what she say you know what this ain't really working out I don't even want to be with you no more and she gone and deal with somebody else
Starting point is 00:08:31 and you know what she don't really like him because he ain't nothing like you you know what I'ma come on you know what I messed up I ain't really mean that I think we should
Starting point is 00:08:42 I think we should rekindle things and get back together. Right. Man, if you don't get up out my face, man, there's the disrespect. Yeah. The disrespect of what the Jets are trying to do, similar to what they're doing to Mac Jones over there. Oh, bench you. Put somebody else in.
Starting point is 00:08:58 Bench you. Man, Zach said, I ain't going for that. I ain't going for that. Do you see what happened? Do you see what happened with Trepacemian? Did you see what he had to deal with? And you think I'm going to go back in the game and deal with that? When you tried to put the onus and the blame of the struggles of our team on me
Starting point is 00:09:16 and use me as a scapegoat? Man, please. I don't blame him. You played in the league a long time. So you tell me what you think the other 31 teams are thinking. Are you done with the NFL? Or you want to go somewhere? So I want you to tell me, what are the other teams thinking?
Starting point is 00:09:33 You tell me what his teammates are thinking. See, I told you from the jump, he wasn't a guy. But go ahead. Tell me what you think the other 31 teams are thinking. I'm not sure. You are sure. Okay. Hold on. The reports are coming out. A player, they want to put a player
Starting point is 00:09:50 back in the game, but he's reluctant or apprehensive. They get him killed? What, you want to get him killed? Okay. I'm just saying, you want to get him killed? The other 31 teams, listen, stay with me. Let me finish. The other 31 teams, the management, the GMs, the people in the front office,
Starting point is 00:10:07 and the other 53 players on the other 31 teams, they can see, they watch film. They play the Jets. They can see what's happening. They can see what's happening to the quarterback position at the Jets. What are they going to say? He ain't going to lead them. He ain't going to lead them. Ain't nobody want him in the team.
Starting point is 00:10:23 Ain't nobody want him on their team. He ain't going to lead them. The eye in the sky don't lie. Oh, Joe. So let me ask you a question. I ain't rolling with that one. I want you to hear me out. So Zach Wilson will be the first guy that got benched and been asked to go back and
Starting point is 00:10:37 resume his starting role. Are you telling me in the 105-year history of the NFL NFL Zach Wilson would be the first guy regardless of position to lose his job and then been asked to go resume his job you want him to get killed? I'm just asking I want him to do his effing job he tried to do it, how you gonna do it?
Starting point is 00:11:00 running for your life, how the fuck he gonna do his job running for his life, getting his head knocked off he can't even do a god damn three step drop how is he gonna do in job running for his life? Getting his head knocked off. He can't even do a goddamn three-step drop. How is he gonna do in job? Read this thing to me. He got benched. He wasn't reading the coverages.
Starting point is 00:11:09 Even when it wasn't a three-step drop. Stay with me. He got benched, right? Yeah. He got benched. Yes. He got benched because
Starting point is 00:11:15 he wasn't able to do in job. He wasn't able to play efficient football. Okay. He put Trevor Simeon in there. Yeah. What changed? What happened different?
Starting point is 00:11:22 Nothing changed. Nothing. He got hurt. Nothing at all. So why you wanting to go back and do a job when he couldn't do it the first time? Because that's his job as a football player. You don't get to determine well, since you benched me,
Starting point is 00:11:34 I'm going to sit on the sidelines and sulk. Your job is on NFL football. So let me ask you a question. So guess what? So I don't have to pay it? No. How in my ass do I have to pay it? Hey, listen. I love you.
Starting point is 00:11:50 I love you to death. I know exactly what you're talking about. I know exactly where you're coming from, but I'm standing with Zach Wilson on this. You ain't finna send me out there
Starting point is 00:11:57 with no goddamn collateral damage to get my ass kicked. Uh-uh. I ain't got nothing to work with. Well, guess what? I ain't got nothing to work with. I ain't got nothing to work with. If I'm the champ, I'm going to suspend it for conduct detrimental. I'm going to suspend it for conduct
Starting point is 00:12:09 detrimental. Don't have me in no wheelchair talk about, you don't want to kick it? Nah, don't do me like that. I'm going to have to suspend it for conduct detrimental to the team. You ain't got to play. I'll sit you down. You ain't going to get no chance, though. Hey, listen, put me out there like that, it's conduct detrimental to my mental listen. Putting me out there like that is conjugal detrimental to my mental health.
Starting point is 00:12:27 Putting me out there like that is conjugal detrimental. What you think his teammates been thinking? How you think they been living when he was out there been sucking for two and a half years? Nah, it ain't him. Well, who in the hell has been great at the quarterback position for the Jets since Joe Namath? Since you want to blame Zach Wilson for the past two years. What about the other 20 years? Oh. What about the other 20?
Starting point is 00:12:50 Mark Sanchez. How far back do we need to go? So, that's your question. Is Mark Sanchez better than Zach Wilson? Because he got him in two AFC Championship games riding a top-notch defense. So, I'm going to ask you again. Whoa, whoa, whoa. Who got him there? A top-notch what. So I'm going to ask you again. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Who got him there?
Starting point is 00:13:05 A top-notch what? Defense. Okay, thank you. Whoa! So now you, hold on. Now I want you to know, hey, Chad, y'all chime in. Chad Ochocinco told me
Starting point is 00:13:14 the Jets defense like that. When Robert Sondland was talking- The Jets defense is like, they are like that. Oh, they are! Yeah. And you know what? The Jets offense is like that because they got Alan Lazar and they got motherfucking Gary Wilson.
Starting point is 00:13:28 You want to know who the problem is? Oh. Can I tell you who the problem is? Yeah. Who? The play calling. The play calling. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:13:39 I want to trust you, but I don't know if I can trust you because I know you told me Chase Claypool just needed a change of scenery from Pittsburgh, from Chicago, and when the last time you heard Chase Claypool name called in Miami? Well, goddamn. They got goddamn Tyreek, goddamn Hill, and goddamn Waddle. You told me Chase Claypool is a
Starting point is 00:14:00 vending machine. What is a vending machine? You know what a vending machine is, don't you? You know what a vending machine is, don't you? You know what a vending machine is? They got a whole lot of things. Sometimes they got sodas. Sometimes they got chips. Sometimes they got a gum.
Starting point is 00:14:14 You know, I've seen vending machines that have cell phone cameras. You just give me all these analogies with the cell phone. But hold on, hold on, hold on. When you got a vending machine, if ain't nobody put no goddamn quarters in, you ain't nobody buying shit. So what you want to do?
Starting point is 00:14:24 Because everybody know the material in there defected. Vending machine just sit on the side. no goddamn quarters in you, ain't nobody buying shit. So what you want to do? Because everybody know the material in there defective. Old ass soda. Who breaking, drinking soda that's been in there half the can because it done evaporated? Nah. Nah, that ain't got nothing to do with it. That ain't got nothing to do with it. But listen, I understand what you're saying, and the people in the chat, I want you to
Starting point is 00:14:39 listen and stay with me and have a better understanding and really think about what's going on over there in New York. You're not going to use Zach Wilson as this scapegoat and understand the troubles and the struggles that we are having offensively. And then you're going to bench me and say, well, damn, okay, I'm the issue. We're struggling. And then put somebody else in for me and you see him get killed as well. And obviously Aaron Rodgers, when he, you know, the few plays he did play, he was having to run for his life in just a short amount of time.
Starting point is 00:15:09 And nothing has changed. Nothing has changed. And now to tell me, oh, now we know we want you to go back in there. Hell no. You got me fucked up. Oh, you know, excuse me. I almost cursed. I apologize.
Starting point is 00:15:20 You ain't got to go in there. We ain't got to worry about paying you either. I mean, you're going to get that check for all that bullshit y'all putting him through. Y'all going to give him that. Y'all going to give him that. Let me ask you a question. If the Bengals told Ocho Cinco to go, huh? Suspend him for what?
Starting point is 00:15:37 Hold on. They need to suspend the goddamn front office who got the goddamn team so goddamn incompetent the past two goddamn 30 years and not building the right team for the goddamn fans of New York goddamn city. That's what they need to suspend. Yeah, you suspend the goddamn draft of Zach Wilson. Who made the calls?
Starting point is 00:15:56 Who do the goddamn drafting? Who do the drafting with the Jets? Whoever drafted Zach Wilson made a huge mistake. Yeah, well, shit. But it was the same guy that drafted Quentin Williams. Whoever been doing the drafting for the J of the past 20, 30 years, they need – I don't know about 20, 30 years,
Starting point is 00:16:10 but I know a guy, that same guy that drafted Zach Wilson, drafted Quentin Williams. That pretty good. He drafted Sal Salzgardner. That pretty good. Pretty good, yeah. Oh, he drafted Gary Wilson. That pretty good.
Starting point is 00:16:22 That's very good. Oh, okay. That's very good. Okay. Yeah's very good. Oh, okay. That's very good. Okay. Yeah, very good. But there's a certain position that matters in sports, especially when it comes to the NFL. When it comes to the NFL, you're only as good as your quarterback.
Starting point is 00:16:35 You're only going to go as far as your quarterback and his supporting cast. What's up here? What's in here, Ocho? What's up here? What's in here, Ocho? You already know what the deal is out there. Yeah, Ocho. What's up here? What's in here, Ocho? You already know what the deal is. I know.
Starting point is 00:16:50 Y'all not finna use that cause no goddamn... Talk about some... Come on. Come on. That's like... And you know good and well if some chick left you
Starting point is 00:16:57 and things didn't go well with the next one, she came back trying to holler at you again. You better kick rock. Ocho, you gotta look at a situation like this. Don't even play at my top like that. Ocho, you got to look at a situation like this. Don't even play
Starting point is 00:17:05 at my top like that. Ocho, but you got to look at it like this is like a job. I mean, you might get demoted on a job. Now, you can either leave the job or they say, okay, it didn't work out. We want you to resume your role. You can say, hell no. And they say, I'm going to fire you or I'm going
Starting point is 00:17:21 to suspend you for conduct detrimental. The choices are yours. What? Where's the conduct detrimental? Ocho, if they try to put you back into your case. Putting him in harm's way? Have you been watching the Jets this season? I've been watching the Jets. That's conduct detrimental.
Starting point is 00:17:40 Ocho, anytime you play in a football game, Jack, I'm at a risk. Zach Wilson's at a risk. You were at a risk. Everybody was at a risk. But the objective, but the problem is, is that when they, I couldn't, if Mike and them tried to put me in, if Brian Billy and them tried to put me in, nah, y'all ain't been
Starting point is 00:18:00 rocking with me this long. Y'all go be at home. Come on, you ain't built like that. That's different. You ain't built like that. That's different. You ain't built like that. And listen, in the onus of the team, the franchise is not on your shoulders. That's completely different. Now, the quarterback position,
Starting point is 00:18:14 especially quarterbacks in general, they're very fragile. They're very fragile, obviously, based on... Yes, sir. Ocho, how you gonna look at your quarterback and you know what we Going through as a team Regardless of position
Starting point is 00:18:28 And he said, we out there fighting Yeah, fighting what? Fighting what? The Jets still think they got The Jets are playing You don't think that defense playing hard? You don't think Garrett Wilson out there Busting his ass?
Starting point is 00:18:43 The defense is playing extremely well. They are still playing extremely well, even though the offense at this point in the season, they've been up and down. They've been up and down. Zach Wilson tried to do the best that he could with what he had to work with. I still, honestly, no bullshit, I still
Starting point is 00:18:59 think it's the play calling because there's too much talent offensively with Brees Hall, Gary Wilson, and Alan Zard and creativity that they can have offensively, whereas you look the way it does. That's all I've been saying. That's all I've been saying. But here's the thing.
Starting point is 00:19:13 I'm not saying that's not the case. But just because I got a crappy boss, that does not excuse me from doing my job. That's the problem that he's running into. Let's just say for the sake of argument, I agree with everything that you
Starting point is 00:19:28 said, that Nathaniel Hackett, we saw how he looked miserably in Denver, and we see how he's looking now. All those things may be true, but that does not exalt me of my responsibility of going out there and playing to the best of my ability.
Starting point is 00:19:44 You just told me. I remember I told you about the quarterback and having confidence and a belief. You was like, I don't give a damn if I don't believe. I got a responsibility to do my job. I got to go out there and be my own. What happened to your responsibility to go and do your job?
Starting point is 00:19:59 I was talking about coming from a place of me being me and me going to do it. So you want a guy like that leading you? That guy right there? Well, listen, if that guy would lead me, he wouldn't be going through the issues he's going through right now. He wouldn't be going through them issues. Man, stop.
Starting point is 00:20:17 He wouldn't be going through them issues. Man, listen, why you better check my resume? Don't play on me. So hold on. So it's not the play callers. So you say- Come first? Okay. I wouldn't care what the play at me. So, hold up. So, it's not the play call. So, you say Gary. Come first. I wouldn't care what the play call.
Starting point is 00:20:27 I don't care. Nathaniel Hackett can call what he want. When I break that huddle, I say, Zach, if the safety's in the middle of the field, I don't care what the play call. Let that bitch come my way. Oh, Joe. I'm going to make your job easy. You got the right one.
Starting point is 00:20:43 I'm going to make your job easy. Yeah. I mean, look at how it looked last year when the other quarterback was in there with Gary Wilson. He won Offensive Player of the Year, Rookie of the Year. He didn't have to be Einstein. He just had to have marginal competence. That's it.
Starting point is 00:21:00 That's it. But again, who's calling the plays again? Nathaniel Hackett. Okay. Listen, I'm not one to talk about people, but I mean, let's talk about the elephant in the room before we get to blaming Zach Wilson. But anyway, let's go. Well, the poll, we got 3,000 votes so far. 57%, we agree with Unk. 43% agree with you. Come on, man. 57%, what y'all doing, man?
Starting point is 00:21:29 Think about your job. Think about your workplace. If your boss played with your head like that, you know what? I don't even really think you the one for the job. Where you working at? So, we're going to move on to Larry. Wait, we're going to move on to Larry
Starting point is 00:21:40 and let Larry do it. They get Larry and that motherfucker for a week and your boss come back to you, you know what? Larry wasn't it, man. let Larry do it. They get Larry and that motherfucker for a week, and then your boss come back to you, you know what? Larry wasn't it, man. Larry wasn't it. Yeah, you think you could come on back? Hell nah. Oh, Joe. Don't play me like that. You just, hold on. Didn't you just tell me
Starting point is 00:21:55 as hard as the economy is right now and these godforsaken times that people can just turn down jobs and the holidays right around the corner? Yeah, holidays around the corner now. Exactly. So guess what? When Larry didn't pay it out
Starting point is 00:22:08 and your boss come back and say, hey, you think you can fill back in? What you think they're going to say when the holidays right around the corner? I sure can. That's exactly what they're going to say. Okay, that was a horrible analogy. I'm hoping people understand where I'm coming from.
Starting point is 00:22:26 But I understand. I'm going to empathize with Zach because he's done all he can. You think about training camp and off-season program and all the work you put in. And things aren't panning out. And they sit you down. And all of a sudden, they try another quarterback. And you're on the bench. You're like, damn, they tried me.
Starting point is 00:22:42 Look at the fucking bullshit I got to deal with. And then, oh, now you want me to come back and... Man, don't get me started. Ocho, I got Nathaniel High Voltage 52 donated to $20. Another show, Ocho. Another $20.
Starting point is 00:22:55 Hey, Ocho, just because my job causes me stress, I still got to show up if I want to get paid in this damn economy. Everyone thinks I'm a cowboy hater because of my critiques. Objective cowboy fan.
Starting point is 00:23:08 Hey, Nathan 52. Didn't I tell you there's no such thing as objective and cowboy fans merged together? But I appreciate you, man. I really appreciate you, Nathan, watching the show, man. It means a lot to us that we have so many regular
Starting point is 00:23:23 people that tune in on Sundays, Mondays and Thursdays. And sometimes we're going to have coming up in the very, man, it means a lot to us that we have so many regular people that tune in on Sundays, Mondays, and Thursdays. And sometimes we're going to have, coming up in the very near future, we're going to have some Saturday night game. So we really appreciate it. But we understand you're absolutely right. Just because your boss stresses you out, if you want to get paid in this economy, mortgage, car note, utilities, grocery. Listen, I like where you're going with it. I like where you're going with it, but I don't like the, it's not a fair assessment
Starting point is 00:23:51 to really compare the NFL athlete with us working people, you know? You got a job, show your ass up and do your job. Ocho, there have been a lot of times coaches have said something, have done things. I still got to do
Starting point is 00:24:06 my job. It does not absorb me of doing my job because they piss me off. Man, y'all ain't calling no plays for me, lad. I ain't running no routes. Right, right. I'm with you. I'm with you right and
Starting point is 00:24:21 you're wrong at the same time. Can I say that? Okay. Listen, two things can be true. Two things can be true, but I'm still sad with Zach for the disrespect of what they're doing and understanding what... They're disrespecting the Jets with that play!
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Starting point is 00:26:57 There was a picture going viral of a date finishing off her entire plate. What would be your thoughts if your date finished her entire plate? That's what I'm talking about. When you go on a date, that's the problem today, man. You go on a date, women all about being cute. They all about being cute
Starting point is 00:27:14 and, oh, I'm going to eat a little bit, or I'm shy, or I'm timid, I'm scared to eat in front of them. Well, you get one of them women, man, listen, when you get one of them women, you take her on a date, she look at the menu, she's assertive, she know what she want, she order food, look at you, baby, you good? Okay, I'm finna get in this. You need anything?
Starting point is 00:27:31 No? Okay, boom. And she going to work. Man, that's what I'm talking about. I like that too. Them your day ones. Yeah. Them your day ones, them the ones you keep around.
Starting point is 00:27:40 All the motherfucking cute shit and trying to pretend you somebody. Oh, I eat a salad, Yeah, I'm a salad. And I don't really do this on the first night with the drinks. I'm good. I don't want none of that. Be yourself. I don't want to meet your representative.
Starting point is 00:27:56 Every time you go on a date, you're meeting somebody representative. Please show your true colors from day one so it ain't no surprises down the goddamn line. If you're greedy, be greedy on the first date. Yeah, if you greedy be greedy on the first date yeah go ahead be greedy on the first date i just know i gotta work harder to make sure i feed you hell i'd rather close you to feed you you eat like that that's it that's all to it man i never forget me and baby me and baby went you know obviously
Starting point is 00:28:18 you know we don't we're on our first date man and man she, God damn. Did you eat today? Yeah. Man, she, boy, she was going, I'm, yeah. I know, I just want one time to say, Shannon, I want one time to say, somebody tell me, say, Shannon, I'm going to take you out to dinner. I ain't going to eat for three days. When I get done with that, she's going to think
Starting point is 00:28:39 I'm Joey Chestnut. I'll be like, he ain't seen the hot dogs. When I get done with all the plays on show, I'm going to have them I'll be like, he ain't send the hot dogs. When I get done with all the plays, Ocho. Yeah. I'm going to have them looking at me like, who got by the plate?
Starting point is 00:28:50 You know how that girl had to order one of those 48 oysters? Yeah. Bad. He was tripping. Yeah, I'm going to tip him. I don't want you,
Starting point is 00:28:57 don't be that greedy. Look, I want you to be, hey, order something, eat it all, baby. I ain't judging you. I'm not judging you. If you want to get a, if you want to get be, hey, order something. Eat it all, baby. I ain't judging you. I'm not judging you.
Starting point is 00:29:06 If you want to get a appetizer, take off. You want to get a salad, take off. You want to get an entree? Dang, dang, dang what you said. Now, what you told, what you told. I know the chat, they watching. They watch the show now. What you told the chat?
Starting point is 00:29:20 What come with lobster? Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. No, I'm talking about. No, no, no. Hold on, Ocho. Ocho, I ain't have no bread like that then. Oh, okay. I ain't have no bread like that. No, no, no, no. I got a little bread now, but still don't order no lobster now. Come on now.
Starting point is 00:29:35 We can get... We can get the salmon or we can get, you know, we can get a piece of fish. We can get the Dover sole. We can get the Scottish salmon. Come on now. We can be sensible now. Okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay. Okay, I'm just checking. Y'all trying to get...
Starting point is 00:29:49 Y'all trying to come in and get... I had the context. I had the context. Yeah, y'all coming in and trying to get the seafood tower. They got three lobster tail, four crab claws, scallops, oysters.
Starting point is 00:29:58 Yeah. Come on now. Okay, you right. You right. But yeah, I would... Excuse me. I wouldn't have a problem if I went on a date Okay, you right. You right. But yeah, I would... Excuse me. I wouldn't have a problem if I went on a date
Starting point is 00:30:08 and she ate everything. I mean, I'm expecting it. I mean, you said you wanted to go out to eat. Go out to eat, yeah. I mean, and it's not last minute because I'm not a last minute type of a guy. So... So...
Starting point is 00:30:20 That's the only problem. Ladies, ladies, I'm sure there are a lot of women in the chat man if you go on a date you're going on dates with dudes man stop trying to impress man stop trying to do all this cute shit man be yourself you know show him what he's going
Starting point is 00:30:35 to have to expect you go eat you're going to eat be greedy use your fork use your hands all that cute shit man chicken ribs those are hand food. They're not food that you cut. Yeah, they're not food that you cut off with a fork and do all that trying to be cute.
Starting point is 00:30:52 Yeah, a matter of fact, if you get ribs and you get dirty, you know how the ribs be up under your nails? Yeah, yeah. Take your finger, take your finger, take with all the ribs and stuff on it and the barbecue sauce, man, put it in his mouth on the first date. Huh?
Starting point is 00:31:07 Whoa, whoa, whoa. Now you speeding, now. We're in the night, we're in the school zone. You know, you can't go more than 15, 20 miles an hour in the school zone. Now you're speeding. No, I'm not speeding.
Starting point is 00:31:17 I'm not speeding. I got my seatbelt on. Yeah, nah. I got my seatbelt on. But listen, you got, listen, we got to understand now you're going on dates. You're going on dates with the sole purpose of reaching the end goal.
Starting point is 00:31:28 We know what the end goal is. Ain't nothing wrong with a little foreplay before you get there. Come on, Ocho. We got to build up to that. That's like six months in. Hold on. I'm going to do
Starting point is 00:31:44 one of you. I'm going to do one of you. I'm going to pull you. I got to take my glass up. Hold on. I'm waiting six months. Hold on. Okay. Okay.
Starting point is 00:31:53 Maybe six months is a little long. But you licking fingers on the first night? Man, the first. Licking fingers and toe. What you talking about? Not on the first night, Ocho. God. Man, the first.
Starting point is 00:32:04 Man, listen. If anybody in The first... Man, listen. If anybody in this chat from Miami, listen, boy, me and Rel, I can tell you our business because we family. We family. And everybody watching, we family. And I don't have nothing to be shamed of.
Starting point is 00:32:18 First night, boy, we was in Okeechobee at the Executive Palace, $30 room, with a little disco ball in the jacuzzi. Yeah. Listen, I ain't got time to play no game with you. Ocho.
Starting point is 00:32:30 What you trying? Man, hold on. Ocho. Stay with me now. Listen, I'm 45, 55 years old. I'm about to kick the bucket in a minute. What you trying to do? We going to be together or not?
Starting point is 00:32:40 I ain't got time to be going on three dates. I ain't got time to be no 90-day rule. I ain't got time for that shit. Ocho I ain't got time to be no 90 day rule I ain't got time for that shit What you want Listen When you go Man I ain't got time to waste So you going for all the O's
Starting point is 00:32:53 Toes Elbows And you ain't got one more left Huh I mean you heard me Listen When you go to the car wash You want your shit detailed don't you
Starting point is 00:33:03 When you go to the car wash You want your your shit detailed, don't you? When you go to the car wash, you want your shit detailed, don't you? From the toes to the feet, from head to toe, everything. Back to front, everything getting touched. I can't get full service on the first night. You know what I'm saying? I ain't got my $15. I ain't got my $15. Give me one of them quick washers.
Starting point is 00:33:25 You're going for full detail You get the in and out The engine, everything Come on, Ocho You know, what's funny is that I have a better understanding You know, when you're younger When you're younger
Starting point is 00:33:36 You're in your 20s You know, you're a teenager I understand the waiting And understanding the process And the process of getting to know But as you get older You understand, you know, the gray area, the in-between
Starting point is 00:33:48 and the understanding that when you meet somebody, you're meeting a representative of themselves. You don't see their true colors until you've been together for three or six months or if they've already gotten
Starting point is 00:33:58 what they wanted to attain from you, which normally nine times out of ten if the sex is good, they're going to be around anyway. So why not get it out of the way? Oh, yeah. Yeah, Unc, why not get it out? Just get it out of the way. As you get older, you don't want to play that game no more, Unc. I
Starting point is 00:34:11 ain't want to play that game. Real, listen, we meeting, where we going to go to dinner? Where we going to go to? You want to go eat? We went to eight. Boom, man, you know, sweetie, they got some nice rooms over here in Hialeah, man, $30 rooms, man, at the executive palace. I ain't really trying to spend no money like that. What you trying to do? Sweetie, they got some nice rooms over here in Hialeah, man. $30 rooms, man. At the Executive Palace. I ain't really trying to spend no money like that.
Starting point is 00:34:28 What you trying to do? Oh, she was... Oh, yeah. Nah, four years later, where we at? Yeah, yeah. We getting married next year in the Bahamas, man. And you... I got you a show for me. You see how that worked?
Starting point is 00:34:40 You see how that worked out? That night. I ain't waste no time. You don't have to waste no time. But the face of the old show And the toes on the first one On the first one With the barbecue sauce
Starting point is 00:34:48 With the barbecue With the barbecue sauce I don't be I don't even really be Licking my hand like that That's the problem, Uncle You gotta live a little bit You gotta expand your horizon, man
Starting point is 00:34:58 I gotta go to the bathroom And wash your hands for you You know, like you're a little kid You know how the mama Wash the hand with the little kid Dad wash the hands I gotta wash your hand myself then. No, you don't have to do that.
Starting point is 00:35:06 I got to do that. You got to give your... Listen, I want you to be healthy, baby. I want you to be around to see 90. You got to give your immune system practice. You don't need to... You can't... It's okay to be dirty sometimes.
Starting point is 00:35:21 Give your immune system time to practice. If you always cleaning yourself, your body ain't getting no practice on the inside. Come on, now. I don't know about that one, Ocho. I'm gonna have to get that one some thought. Hey, I'm, hey, listen, I'm feeling good. We gonna be on this motherfucker three hours a night because I'm feeling good.
Starting point is 00:35:38 Ocho, check this out. Rail's friend, the doctor, just donated $500 again. She said, happy holidays. I'd like to invite you as my plus one to an event hosted by one of your fellow Hall of Fame brethren. I'm on the board. I will apprise Rell of the details. Cheers.
Starting point is 00:35:57 Yes, sir. That's $2,000. That's $2,000, boy. Hey, listen here, Unc. I ain't never seen nothing like this. I ain't never, this is what I'm talking about. Ladies, take notes. In life, it's okay to be assertive.
Starting point is 00:36:13 When you see something you want, you go for it. You drop little hints, you drop little dimes, you do things that get you in the dough. So in other words, I'm listening to you. So you like, you like sex on the first date, the first night, you good with that? Huh?
Starting point is 00:36:29 You good with sex on the first date? What you waiting for? What you waiting, if you grown, what you waiting for? See, this is the problem. Now, you sit around here, wait, let's stay with me now, baby.
Starting point is 00:36:38 You sit around here and you go through all these motherfucking traditional motherfucking values and morals and all that shit. You do your little three months and all of a sudden you do it and it's bad. Then what you going to do? Now you done wasted three months of your goddamn time.
Starting point is 00:36:51 Waited three months of your goddamn time and now you don't want no more of that bullshit. I waited three months for this shit. This whack. She all off rhythm and you know, she's doing this and like, come on, huh? It's in people in the chat don't be laughing I know some of you laughing because you've been through it and you know exactly what I'm talking about I'm about the first day I'm about the first night I'm about the first hour
Starting point is 00:37:14 that's too long I ain't got that kind of time like you said I'm 55 I don't know how much time I need to go to get out of here listen sometimes listen different strokes for different folks right I'm just telling you me I don't know how much time. I need to go to get out of here. Listen, sometimes, listen, different strokes for different folks. Right. I'm just telling you me.
Starting point is 00:37:29 I mean, what's worked for me as I've gotten old in life and understanding all that waiting and all that, you know, going through all the rigmarole, it doesn't change the end result no matter what you do. It doesn't change the end.
Starting point is 00:37:41 The end result going to be the end result no matter what. If I rock with you, it could be the first night, the second night. If I ain't going to rock with you, I can wait a week. I can wait a month. I can make six months. Yeah. It is what it is.
Starting point is 00:37:55 Yep. There's nothing in ladies. Look, I'm not saying there's anything wrong. If you want to wait, that's a personal preference. I'm not here to judge what you do or what you and your partner, the agreement that you guys have or whatever it is. Like, hey, I need 30 days. I need 45 days. I need 60 days.
Starting point is 00:38:19 Right. Uh-uh. Listen, you can wait two years. You can wait one day yeah whatever his intentions are regards to how long you wait he is going to be there if you are that one real talk real talk oh oh joe oh joe bc ubc you may see like you may you may you may you make things happen for real see i was in a situation like I made reservations. And the place that I made reservations to, it caught fire.
Starting point is 00:38:52 So it was closed. So I called her. It caught fire? Yes. The restaurant had closed. So I called her and tell her, say, hey, look, we're not going to be able to go out to eat because the restaurant closed. Because she's like, why'd they close? I said, it burned down.
Starting point is 00:39:07 You know what she said to me? You was lying. She said, what the F that got to do with me? She said, you that in, right? You Shannon Sharp. Whoa, whoa, whoa. She talk to you like that for real? She said, you that in, right?
Starting point is 00:39:20 She said, you Shannon Sharp. You Big Balls McGee. Nah, that's a liability. Make it happen. I'm like, oh, really? She say, you told me you was that boy dog. I had to get on the phone. Because Ocho, I don't like, for me, I don't really like to call establishments and tell people who I am.
Starting point is 00:39:44 I'll go through the proper channels. I'll call. Can I get a reservation? If they're booked up, I'll call. I'll call and I'll get in another time. I don't really like to call and say who I am to try to get in. I don't really do that.
Starting point is 00:39:59 But, you know, I know a few people. I made it happen. Yeah. Good thing I did. Yeah, I don't like people. I made it happen. Yeah. Good thing I did. Yeah, I don't like the way she came at you, though. I like that. I don't like the way she talked to you. I don't like that. I like that.
Starting point is 00:40:14 You did? Yeah. That was aggressive, though. Hey, Ocho, you know what I'm telling you? If it ain't rough, it ain't me. Okay. Talk to me in a term that I can understand That passive Don't be passive aggressive
Starting point is 00:40:32 Tell me what you want And if I can do it, I'm going to make it happen If I can't, I'm going to tell you that I can't make it happen And I ain't got no problem Telling you what I can or can't do Right Because I'm a type of guy, promises are like pie crust, thin and easily broken. I'm going to make a commitment.
Starting point is 00:40:50 So if I can do it... Hold on now. Let me write that down. Now, woman, let me give a pen and paper. Uh-huh. Yeah, if you think, boy, if you think I ain't going to use that one on real, boy, pie crust... Promises are like pie crust, thin and easily broken. Promises are like pie crust. Yeah, if you think I ain't going to use that one on real. What? Pie crust?
Starting point is 00:41:07 Promises like pie crust. Promises like pie crust. So if I tell you something, I have every intention on being able to deliver that. Right, right. So, like I said, talk to me. I'm not saying be disrespectful. I like that. I said, talk to me. I'm not saying be disrespectful. But what he was saying is that if you are what you said you were, what you claim to be,
Starting point is 00:41:30 you got to stand on that. Yes, I know you can make it happen. Right, I like that. I'm glad you just said that because the doctor you listening, he tell me what you need to do.
Starting point is 00:41:46 Be a little aggressive. Be a little aggressive. Yeah, there you go. I like that. I like that old joke. Despite being married for 15 years, Cheryl Lee Ralph is finally moving in with her husband, Vincent. At 15 years, the two
Starting point is 00:42:02 have been in a bi-cultural relationship for 15 years. Cheryl worked on Abbott Elementary and kept her anchored in L.A., while Vincent's responsibilities had him tied to Philadelphia. But according to a source, regular visits every two weeks is no longer enough. Cheryl is moving to Philly. She will travel to L.A. to work. But the moment the camera stops rolling, she's heading home
Starting point is 00:42:25 to her husband. Wow. Wow. Traditional values on the way things work ain't for everybody. No. Miss Cheryl Lee Ralph
Starting point is 00:42:41 has been smiling for 20 plus years. No issues, no problems. So she did what works for her. I think one of the problems that we always have is the traditional values in the way we are constructed to believe things are supposed to go in life. What society says normally is. It says the socially constructed things, you try to abide by a certain set of rules that don't really fit who you are.
Starting point is 00:43:12 Right. Sometimes they don't fit who you are. You have to do what works for you. And I think that's where people make the mistake in trying to abide by those rules when they really don't align with your traditional values or whatever your values may be.
Starting point is 00:43:25 Right. And that is, this is a prime example. Well, fuck what they talk about how it should go. We going to do what work for us. And I think that's why she's been so happy for so long.
Starting point is 00:43:35 And the timing of when they decided to move in, it works for them. We need more time with each other. Yeah. Every two, the once every other week, either I come to,
Starting point is 00:43:49 either I come to Philly or you come to L.A., that's no longer sustainable. You need more. I need more. So now we have a meeting of the mind. You know, a contract used to be a meeting of the minds. Ocho, you know what? There was no contract where you signed something. We had a meeting of the mind. Okay, Ocho, I tell you what.
Starting point is 00:44:04 contract when you sign something, we have a meeting of the mind. Okay, so I tell you what, I'm going to deliver you a dozen eggs and two pounds of cheese. And when you slaughter your hog, you're going to give me a shoulder or you're going to give me some grain. Okay, that was the contract. Somewhere along the lines, you got what you were supposed to get, but didn't give me what I was supposed to get. And so now there was no longer a meeting of the minds. So now we got to put things on an eight by 10. We got to have a contract that says, okay, you're going to deliver the pound of cheese and you're going to deliver the
Starting point is 00:44:35 egg and shit. And in return, you're going to get this. So the contract that they had with each other and you know what, Ocho, it was able to be amended on the fly. Because when you go into, what am I getting
Starting point is 00:44:50 into? Who is this person? Well, you know she was an actress. You know he had responsibilities in Philly, but you decided to tie the knot. Okay. And before that, they had it like, okay, so what's going to be the agreement? Am I going to stay in LA? You stay in Philly. We commute. And that worked for them for 15 years.
Starting point is 00:45:13 Right. Right. Hell, I know people get married and they don't, I mean, they don't sleep in the same bed. Yeah. But that worked for them. I wonder, you know, I should try that. What do you think about... Nah, because you and Real done been living together because she's going to think something up because anytime you change,
Starting point is 00:45:33 that sets off a person's antenna. Right, right, right. I can't change my routine, huh? You start wearing different colognes. She starts wearing different colognes. All of a sudden, she start wearing, you know, she normally wear, you know, nice French cuck boy shorts and all of a sudden, she starts wearing, you know, she normally wears, you know, nice French cut boy
Starting point is 00:45:45 shorts, and all of a sudden, she's wearing thong underwear. Oh, shit. She ain't wearing no one. Hold on. Hold on, honey. All of a sudden, she starts working out. My grandfather used to say, my grandfather used to say, hey, boy, if a woman starts working out all of a sudden, she's getting the body ready for somebody
Starting point is 00:46:01 else to feel naked. I'm just saying, that's what he's saying. Oh, shit. That's all I'm saying. Uh-huh, but let me call her right now. I ain't got, I don't like the way that sounds. She wants somebody else to see what her body look like without them clothes. Oh, well, that right there make me sick.
Starting point is 00:46:17 That make me sick to my stomach. No, Ocho, but the thing is that you know, you know you've been with her long enough and just that that's that's why women that's why you know women can catch a guy because all of a sudden you start doing something different than what you've done from the day she met you and she's gonna see pattern right right right right right right it's hard that's why we are animals we're instinctive and we'll do the same thing that's why elephants are animals. We're instinctive. And we'll do the same thing. That's why elephants know they know where to go to the water.
Starting point is 00:46:48 Yeah, that too. Humans, you try to break it, but you have a modus operandi. You have a method in which you operate. Operate, yeah. And mine has never changed for years. For years. So you already know when I'm acting a fool,
Starting point is 00:47:04 when my routine changes. I do the same things over and over and over. And if that pattern changes or it sways just a little bit, I'm up to no good. And she knows that. That's good.
Starting point is 00:47:17 But really quick before you even finish, a lot of the people, a lot of the women, especially a lot of the fellas too, the context of the Shirley, the lot of the women, especially a lot of the fellas too, the context of the Shirley, the Shirley, Shirley Ralph,
Starting point is 00:47:27 Shirley Ralph, and them doing what works for them. I need most of you, all of you that are watching and listening, stop trying to abide by the rules that they have. I'm not going to say brainwashed, that they have constructed for us to live by.
Starting point is 00:47:41 Because sometimes that might not work for you. It might not work for you. It might not work for you. You find a final partner, find your one, or find somebody you're willing to spend time with, even if it ain't for the long haul, whoever you're spending your time with.
Starting point is 00:47:53 Do what works for you. Right. Do what works for you because obviously the way they tell us it should be done, it ain't working because if you look at statistics,
Starting point is 00:48:02 it ain't looking too good. Well, considering the average marriage in the U.S., they said a study, I think it was 2022 or 2023, the average marriage is about seven to eight years. So they've already doubled that with 15. So, but Ed, keep people out your business. Stop telling your girlfriends everything. Stop telling your family everything. And you'll be just fine. Mm-hmm.
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Starting point is 00:49:34 highlighting the popularity of the term used by Generation Z to describe someone's ability to attract or seduce another person. Oh, so you got that Riz, huh? You got that Riz, huh? You got that Riz, huh? Riz? R-I-Z-Z. What that mean? That something new?
Starting point is 00:49:49 It's the ability to attract or seduce another person. Okay. Okay, I like that. The ability to seduce or attract another person. Yeah, yeah. I thought that was swag.
Starting point is 00:50:01 Yeah. Well, you know, that was a... What are they called? Hold on. What did you talk about? Charm. Charm. Let me see.
Starting point is 00:50:15 Fridge. The ability to attract. Yeah, mostly. I mean, when it comes to women, women like a guy that carries himself a certain way. They like confidence. They like a sense of humor.
Starting point is 00:50:26 Yeah, that's swag. That's all a part of... Women like... Women like... Women like men that can make them laugh. Like a confident man that can make them laugh.
Starting point is 00:50:35 If you confident and can make a man laugh or make a woman laugh... Make a woman laugh. Yeah. Yeah, laugh right up at them clothes. Laugh right up at them.... Laughing right up at them clothes.
Starting point is 00:50:48 Easy. Boy, you so crazy. Boy, you funny. Okay. Yeah. You know, I keep my five or six over Ocho. I just keep five or six handy just in case. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:51:00 You know, keep them coming. Fan questions. Uncultured Jazz. Hey, Uncle Ocho, outside of normal things, what are some of the more unrecognized things you guys go through throughout the season? Throughout the season? Unrecognized?
Starting point is 00:51:18 Yeah. Shoot, I don't really go through nothing throughout the season. I just think it's just the normal responsibility i i think the thing is for me is that the amount of responsibility as the of the head of everything you know right my family i'm in charge okay when they need something i'm the guy and that's why i work so hard excuse me because i have so many people counting on me and i don't want to let anybody down damn i'm good but i got i got kids i got my brother my sister my mom i've got other people other responsibilities now i got a team that's counting on me right to show up and to do what I need to do to make sure they get their paychecks twice a month, that everybody's bills are taken care of.
Starting point is 00:52:12 So I just think the thing for me is that, and it's something that I relish, is that I think every person that I've been with probably over the last 15 years have pretty much told me the same thing. I don't know if a relationship is the most important thing to you. I think work and your responsibility that comes along with that is the most important. So I've tried to try to like, okay, yeah, work is important. People are counting on me. But let me, because I'm not good at multitasking. You know, like a lot of women can do a hundred things. They can have the baby. They can be on the computer ordering this. They can be doing the stuff that you've asked them to do.
Starting point is 00:52:57 I can't do any of that. I got a singular focus. Right. Now that you've answered that and given me better context on the question that he asked because it was it was kind of just really wasn't enough context in it but the way you answered it i mean it's similar to the same as far as in season things i have to do but it's such a routine that i do out of season as well right and i don't even count it you know you know i mean it ain't
Starting point is 00:53:22 no season it ain't no season. It ain't no season. It's something that, it's a yearly thing. It's a year-round thing and it has been for years because I'm used to it, obviously, kids being important, kids, tuition,
Starting point is 00:53:33 those that are in school, the little ones, obviously, you know, kids in high school. So, it's kind of different. So, that's why I said, as soon as the question was asked,
Starting point is 00:53:43 what else do you have to go through during, you know, you know, end season? I'm like, shit, nothing do you have to go through during, you know, end season? Like, shit, nothing. Because all I got to do is, you know, just be prepared for work. Because everything else outside of that is something that goes on year round for me. Yeah, absolutely. I mean, and when I had the surgery, you know, I had back-to-back hip replacement surgeries.
Starting point is 00:53:58 And so now I got to focus, you know, hey, you got to get back on your feet ASAP. And to make sure that you're still able to do what you need to do because i i'm not an excuse guy either hey you do what you i i got responsibilities i don't do excuses and i think my grandmother my grandfather that's how they raised me we don't make excuses you get the job done yeah and then you don't complain about that you had to do it and so for me that's what i've always done i've always you don't complain about that you had to do it. And so for me, that's what I've always done. I've always, you know, and I have a
Starting point is 00:54:29 special fondness to people that have such responsibility and do it every day with a smile on their face. Yeah. Third, I woke ass. Ocho and Shannon, what are your thoughts on Vontaze Burfik? How he played the game and the ending of his career.
Starting point is 00:54:47 And also, Ocho, can you tell us about the character behind the closed doors and who he was as a person? I was gone when Vontaze got into the league. So I was long gone. So all I can tell you from what I saw from a distance, you can explain to him because you were on the roster when he got there. No, no, no. I was gone too going to yeah Vontaze is the AJ Green Andy Dalton era oh okay okay okay listen but he he's supposed
Starting point is 00:55:15 to been playing during your era he would have been Vontaze Burfield was perfect for your era right you know or more so the era I played in where you could actually play like that. Right. You know, it's football. Right. Originally,
Starting point is 00:55:29 you think about football, you think about middle linebackers and playing no games when it came to playing the game of football. That is, that's who Vontaze Burford was.
Starting point is 00:55:39 It wasn't accepted, obviously, once the rules came into place, came into play and protecting players and head injuries and CT and all that stuff. But I like him.
Starting point is 00:55:48 I like him. I like the way he played the game. Barnboy asked me, your knee was down at the one-yard line on 11-16-03 against the Chargers. How many touchdowns do you think would have been overturned if today's replay was in effect when you played? They had replay when I played. The Chargers could have challenged it and said it wasn't a touchdown. I mean, I don't know what you want me to do. I was supposed to jump up to the official.
Starting point is 00:56:15 Hey, man, you know I'm on the one yard line. There ain't no touchdown. Mark me down at the one. If they didn't think it was a touchdown, they could have challenged it. Right. If they didn't think it was a touchdown, they could have challenged it. Right.
Starting point is 00:56:25 So I, I, I, I look, I know when I say I played in the nineties, but there was replay. I don't know. It wasn't y'all make it seem like I played with, with a black and white TV.
Starting point is 00:56:41 Like they will feel me. Like they will feel me on the sideline. Like this. Oh, Joe. What? I understand. I mean, I understand. Like they would feel me on the sideline like this. Oh, Joe, what the hell? I mean, I understand. I'm 55, but I did play. I would be considered
Starting point is 00:56:54 a modern day player. Any player that happened after the common draft, which I think is like 1966, is considered a modern player. So I think they would consider me a modern player. Uncle Ocho, Jared asked,
Starting point is 00:57:09 Uncle Ocho, love the show. Uncle, do you think you could do 225 for more refs than Ocho could do 185? Do you think you could do 225 on the bench for more refs than Ocho could do 185? Yes. Why would he discredit me and put me at 185 when I could do 185. Why would he discredit me and put me at 185
Starting point is 00:57:27 when I could do 225 as well? What is he trying to say? But you're only going to do it for one rep. So he's trying to give you an advantage. 225? I could do 225 27 times. What are you talking about? Ocho, I tell you what I'd be willing to do.
Starting point is 00:57:40 I put up a million dollars and say you can't do 25 to 227. Oh, you're going to run me my money Oh, you going to run me my money? You going to run me my money? No chance. This is what people fail to do. People always have an eye test. People always use the visual.
Starting point is 00:57:54 Listen to me. Stay with me now, baby. People always use the visual and look at something and say... You got a t-shirt on? You got a t-shirt on? You got a t-shirt on
Starting point is 00:58:00 up under that? Because his frame is small. You got a t-shirt... He shouldn't be able to do this. You got a t-shirt on up under that? Because his frame is small. You got a t-shirt. He shouldn't be able to do this. You got a t-shirt on up under that? Yeah. Take that off. Let me show the people.
Starting point is 00:58:12 Yeah, I know. Hey, y'all ladies don't be looking at me now. Yeah. Yeah, let me come up out this thing. Let me come up out this thing. Let me come up out this thing. Yeah, you see that? Look at that. I do.
Starting point is 00:58:28 Look at that. I do. I just look like this. I just look like this. I have a small frame, but I'm strong. You ain't doing no 225, no 27 reps. How you going to tell me that I've done it? I've done 225 27 times.
Starting point is 00:58:43 No. I just look like this. Pull up, Ocho. I'll tell you what we can do. We can pull up what you did at the Combine. Pull up Ocho. What is the Combine? What the Combine ain't got nothing to do with it.
Starting point is 00:58:51 You talking about right now. Ocho, first of all, this is how I know you can't do 227. Because when you went to the Combine, that was your... Hold on. I didn't even lift. Let me finish.
Starting point is 00:59:02 Let me finish. The Combine was when you're on the job interview. You're going to be at your absolute best. You're going to be at your fastest. You're going to be at your best because that's the job interview. You don't even lift like that anymore. I'm not so sure you can do 225 five times. I didn't even lift weights at the combine.
Starting point is 00:59:23 All I needed to do was run my 40 and run routes. Once they saw my routes, that was it. That sealed the deal. That's how I know you can't do 225, 27 reps. I'm talking about now.
Starting point is 00:59:33 I'm talking about now. Now, if you said you do 185 like 10 times, I said, Ocho, you might get that. No, no, no. You might get that. I'm very strong
Starting point is 00:59:40 despite my frame. I am extremely strong. So, if you want to put that million dollars, make sure you stand on business by that million dollars too. I'm going to do a video when I get back to Miami.
Starting point is 00:59:51 No, you're not doing no video. I'm going to be there. Bring your million with you. I don't need no video. I need to be there. I don't need no video. I don't need no video. Wait, wait.
Starting point is 00:59:59 No, no. What are you bringing here? Huh? I'm a video. I don't need no video. I don't need no video. I'm going to be right there in your presence. I'm going to video it. I don't need no video. I don't need no video. I'm going to be right there in your presence. I'm going to bring a million dollar cash.
Starting point is 01:00:08 You bring yours. We put it right there. Wait, what I'm taking a million out for? Because you're going to put, you bet me a million. Nah, you said you bet, you bet the money, you bet the money. Put up. I'm putting up a million, you put up a million. So I'm walking away with two million.
Starting point is 01:00:24 You walking away with two million. You're walking away with two million. You know what? I'm a million for me and a million for Rel. You know, we appreciate that. Happy holidays. Yeah. Well, tell Rel to put up a million, too, because I got to cover her, too.
Starting point is 01:00:35 So it's two million. I like that. Yeah, I like that, too. It's cold in Philly, man. I might find, hey, with two million, with two million dollars, I might find me somebody then, Ocho. You already got somebody. She done donated you $2,000. Hey,
Starting point is 01:00:51 well, guess what? Her friend about to donate me a million. Her friend in the hub about to donate me two million. So I'm about to have two million, two thousand. Hey, it's cold. It's cold It's cold Hey I can turn the heat on in the room That doesn't
Starting point is 01:01:11 That doesn't count That don't count against my arm No My arm My arm What you call it What they take your credit card for At the front desk
Starting point is 01:01:19 Room truck incidentals No Yeah that The heat don't count for that huh No No you have to order room service. Oh, okay, okay. Because, you know, in Philly, it's 40 degrees.
Starting point is 01:01:30 That's why I got the jacket on here. But I ain't want to turn the heat on because I thought it charged my credit card. No. No. It won't charge your credit card. Okay, let me turn the heat on then so I can take the damn jacket off. Make sure you click that like button. Make sure you hit that subscribe button. We're at
Starting point is 01:01:47 404,000. Have we hit 405 yet? 404 what? Yeah. We're 25 subscribers away from 405,000. Guys, you don't know how much Ocho and I really appreciate this because you've gotten us grown a lot faster than we even expected.
Starting point is 01:02:08 We expected to be, excuse me, we kind of expected to hit the numbers that we are now somewhere around March, April, maybe even June. But to be able to do this in about two months time, we greatly appreciate that.
Starting point is 01:02:21 It lets us know that we're heading in the right direction. But we still, wherever you listen to Nightcap at, wherever you watch us, leave your reviews. Let us know what you think. Would you like us to talk more about something else? Would you like us not to do this? Would you like us not to do that? Because at the end of the day, it's about yeah, we try to come up with topics and obviously
Starting point is 01:02:46 the sports speak for themselves. The games speak for themselves. We're going to offer you our analysis of what we thought about the game. But when you start going off topic of sports, it's kind of like what you guys want to hear. What would you like for us to talk about? What would you like to hear our opinions on?
Starting point is 01:03:02 And so how similar are our opinions to yours? And where do we differ? You agree with Ocho, you agree with me, you agree with both of us. Maybe there's a combination. I get what Ocho is saying, but I kind of agree with Shannon.
Starting point is 01:03:14 I kind of get what Shannon was saying, but I kind of agree with Ocho. But that's what this is about. This is about what you would like for us to talk about. How would you like for us to go about this? So make sure you click that like button and hit that subscribe button so anytime that Unc and Ocho go live,
Starting point is 01:03:32 you'll get a notification to know we're about to do this. We've also pinned Shea by La Portia at the top of the link with the holidays right around the corner. We got Christmas, we got New Year, and I know we got some birthdays. So make sure you go get yourself one for someone special. A bottle of Shea, bottle of Portier. Ocho, what else you got to talk about? We got to get
Starting point is 01:03:50 ready. Ooh, man, it's 1 o'clock. Yeah, I don't know. I got inside the NFL tomorrow morning. What you got? First take tomorrow? I got first take tomorrow. I got first take. Okay. I'm trying to think what else. And I got a six-hour flight back to L.A. Wait, where you at?
Starting point is 01:04:05 I'm in NYC. Oh, you right down... We could have did the show from the same room. I'm in Jersey. Man, I had a busy day today, Ocho. I had a... I did my podcast. I did Club Shea Shea.
Starting point is 01:04:17 I shot somebody today up here. Who you had? Oh, you can't say who it was? It's a secret. But I think it's going to be a great one. I got a couple. I got a couple coming out over the next month. It's going to blow some
Starting point is 01:04:30 people away because these people hadn't done an interview in a very long time and they shared some stories. I'm not so sure anybody's ever heard. So I'm anxious to hear how people receive the guys that I'm having on. And still got i'm still i'm
Starting point is 01:04:46 still shooting but like i said i got three or four three or four people that people are gonna be surprised like hey he on club shea shea oh dude yeah you know oh hey like that yeah man i'll be trying to get that thing in so thank you for joining another episode of Club Shae Shae of Nightcap with Uncle Ocho. I'm your favorite sports uncle, Shannon Sharp. He's your favorite number 85. He's so proud. He's so happy his team went on the road without Joey B and got a hard-fought victory in overtime, 34-31. Jake Browning was really, really good tonight, 32-37, 354 and a touchdown.
Starting point is 01:05:25 Trevor Lawrence suffers a nasty ankle injury. We don't know the extent or if he will, but it looks like he might miss some time, Ocho, which will be very, very costly for the Jags because they have the lead in the AFC South, but the Texans are
Starting point is 01:05:40 right on their heels. And when the way C.J. Stroud is playing and the way D'Amico Ryans have them playing as a team, I would not be surprised if Trevor Lawrence is out for any significant period of time if the Houston Texans doesn't overtake them and end up winning that division,
Starting point is 01:05:57 which would be a huge accomplishment, which now D'Amico Ryans must be a unanimous coach of the year and C.J. Stroud, even though Puka Nakua is having an unbelievable season. But 20-5 with the numbers that he's putting up, and I think C.J. might be in top five in passing yards. Crazy.
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