Club Shay Shay - Nightcap - Cowboys blow out Eagles, Chiefs lose to Bills, Zion's weight
Episode Date: December 11, 2023Shannon Sharpe and Chad "Ochocinco" Johnson react to Dak Prescott and the Dallas Cowboys beating Jalen Hurts and the Philadelphia Eagles on Sunday Night Football, Josh Allen and the Buffalo Bills upse...tting Patrick Mahomes and the Kansas City Chiefs, Brock Purdy's growing MVP case, Zion Williamson's weight issues, Jada Pinkett-Smith's latest comments, and much more! 00:00 - Introduction01:36 - Cowboys beat Eagles12:45 - Bills beat Chiefs30:45 - Brock Purdy's MVP Push42:30 - Jets win, Zach Wilson balls out1:27:00- Zion's weight issues1:40:00 - Jada Pinkett-Smith speaks out1:45:00 - Much More Nightcap! #Club #Volume #HerdSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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ocho we got a packed show so we're gonna get right into it tonight yes sir cowboys beat the eagles
33 13 dak prescott 24 271, two touchdowns.
The Cowboys have now scored 30-plus points in all seven home games,
eight straight when you go back to the final game last year.
It's the longest streak across the NFL since the Broncos did it
in 11 games spanning 2012 and 2013 season.
Jalen Hurts was 18-27, 197.
Devontae Smith, fun with the football. Third turnover for the Eagles the night.
One shot of matching their season high for against the Jets.
So what were some of your takeaways from tonight's game, Ojo?
I mean, my takeaway, first of all, was Dak. Dak playing
a very, very, very good ballgame. Obviously, you said it already. He was 24 for
39 for 271 yards.
And I've always said this.
We said that all the Cowboys hadn't beaten anybody.
Obviously, they just beat a very, very good,
but what we thought was good, 10-2 Eagles team.
Obviously, they dominated in all three phases of the game.
But more importantly, the receiver showed up today.
I think when it comes time to playoff football,
we're going to need CeeDee Lamb, Brandon Cooks, and Michael Gallup to do what they did tonight.
Continue to make plays and make Dak's job easy to where he can facilitate and just do what he needs to do to make sure they win the game and not turn the ball over.
Obviously, they took one off him.
I'm sorry.
They did get one off him, but they were able to overcome that because the Eagles obviously turned the ball over four times themselves.
That goddamn Stephon Gilmore tonight.
That damn Stephon Gilmore, man, played phenomenal football, man.
That is how you play defensive back.
He played really well.
Before I get into my thing, okay, they come with the bliss.
And this is what I say say understanding and have football IQ right this is what I don't get with Devante he sees us a blitz so now and
uh Stefan Gilley is playing off you run the shallow Ocho you know he's driving as soon as
you catch this ball you stop and pivot up out of it. Why would he continue to run, Ocho, when he know the guy driving?
You got to have spidey senses tingling.
Oh, he driving on this one.
I'm back up out of there.
And go the other way.
Yes, Ocho.
That's Ocho.
Okay, I get it.
That's a graduate-level receiver move.
But him being who he is, a Heism trophy a blitnikov war winner a top 10
pick oh joe you gotta feel that you've got a sense and you remember you and i was talking about it
earlier from the defense you know okay this is where the collisions based on the defense that
i thought they were in this is where the collision is going to come from so you have an understanding
of what's going on.
So I know on a blitz situation, I'm running,
they call it, some people call it drive,
some people call it shallow cross,
but whatever you want to call it, drive, shallow cross.
I know Gilly has to drive to try to beat me to the point.
So now all I'm going to do is catch the ball and spin up out of there.
And I'm going back the other way.
He might hit his head on the goalpost,
because remember, Ocho, they came with a blitz. And it ain't nothing back there. i'm going back the other way he might hit his head on the goal post because remember ocho decay with a blitz and it ain't nothing back there hey it's money mano but i
think maybe he wasn't really thinking thinking of that at that specific moment he was more so
concerned with securing the catch you know and obviously you want to make a play in the in that
in that moment but you have to have extreme confidence
in not just securing the catch,
but understanding and already having it pre-planned
what you're going to do when that blitz is coming.
That already has to be in your head and ready to go.
It's not like, oh, the ball's coming.
Oh, shit, they blitzing.
Okay, this is what I'm going to do.
It already got to be in your head.
When you line up at the line of scrimmage
and you know blitz is coming based on
down and distance or what they're showing you defensively,
that already has to be playing in your
head. So it's second nature. When that
ball comes out, you're already ready to do
it. For the simple fact he's
not impressed, I know he has
to come for distance because at the lineup
he's already playing off. Because
guess what? He don't want me to run by him.
So now once I take off, I already know he's already playing off because guess what he don't want me to run by him so now once i take off
i already know he's driving over the top because he's trying to prevent me from getting the first
down going out the front side so i'm already thinking at three steps i say if i get this ball
i'm coming back i'm coming back underneath yeah yeah automatically yeah but the simple fact the
way the defense is being played and i know I'm not going to beat him to the point
because guess what I got to do, Ocho?
I got to catch him, get the ball, and I got to turn up.
So by the time I turn up, here he come.
And guess what happened?
As soon as he turned up, boom, he's down.
And he's not a big receiver,
so he's not going to break a whole lot of tackles, Ocho.
He's only above 65.
So that's not DK. That's not going to break a whole lot of tackles. He's only above 65. So it ain't
like that's not DK. That's not
AJ. That's not a Julio
or one of these big receivers
or T.O. that's going to run through tackles
in a situation like that
because it's bang.
He but you got
that's what I'm thinking. And
knowing the situation, knowing where knowing
how to DB playing, knowing the defense that in man man they have zero coverage oh I'm stopping yeah unless he
as soon as I catch an Ocho unless he bangs me as soon as I catch it right I'm wheeling up out of
it get up out of there I'm wheeling up out of it but Ocho I've been that's tough Ocho you remember
I've been saying this and I said Ocho there's remember I've been saying this and I said, Ocho, there's something going on with the Eagles.
And I said, Ocho, we got to be careful because
they're winning. We're glossing over some
issues that they got. I said,
that back end can be had.
I said, what's happening is
that, and what Dallas did a good job of
tonight is that when they got in the red zone, they cast
it in. I said, but that
back end, I said, eat the fillet. Oh,
and see, that's the difference between what we do and fans. See, fans, all that back end, I said, eat the fillet. Oh, and see, that's the
difference between what we do and fans.
See, fans, all they care about, Ocho,
is wins and losses.
I'm trying to explain to you why they're
winning, why they're losing, and
some pitfalls that might
befall you if
you're not careful. Now, I've been
trying to warn you. We're going to talk about the Kansas City Chiefs.
I was the one that was worried from day one. And I told you, Ocho, I said, Ocho, I'm worried. Now, I've been trying to warn you. We're going to talk about the Kansas City Chiefs. I was the one that was worried from day one.
And I told you, Ojo.
I said, Ojo, I'm worried.
But when I look at the Eagles, the mistake sometimes people make is that,
man, they were really good last year.
Well, they're going to be really good this year.
And the record, sometimes the record is not an indication
of how well somebody's playing.
Right, right.
But if you can look at the Eagles
and honestly be truthful to
yourself, say this team is
not identical
obviously because they've lost some pieces, lost some
coordinators, but they're not playing close
to what they were. I mean, they had a pretty good night
running the football tonight, but
there's not the same team.
Right now,
I got the 49ers here i got the
cowboys here and then you got the you got the eagles and the lions and then whoever else you
want to put in there but right now 49ers cream of the clock the cream of the crop yeah most
definitely they they look they listen the 49ers look strong as hell i'm looking at them and i'm
trying to find a weak link like you you said, basically, the Eagles were
10-2 and you said they were winning and people
look at the wins and losses but really not understanding
and dissecting why they're winning
and the holes that you can see
that the casual fan can't see
but the 49ers,
man, we're not going
to get off topic right now.
God damn, they look good.
They look really good.
Go ahead, Ocho.
I was going to say about the Eagles
is that they're back in.
And it started to alarm me
when I saw Sam Howell
throw for almost 400.
Okay.
So I'm like, hold on.
That Sam Howell
threw for almost 400?
Right.
Against that front line
and with that back end?
Y'all got pro bowlers
on the back end.
How is that possible?
And then I see Dak throw for 374. And i see these guys throwing for a number of yards i said nah
and now ocho they can't run the football with the same conviction so they can't keep opposing
teams offense off the field off the field right i mean for one for the commanders and i and i will
like to say this based on the receiving the receiving court Off the field, right. I mean, for one, for the commanders, and I will like to say this, based on the receiving
corps that the commanders do have with Terry McLaurin, Jahan Dotson, they're not no goddamn
slouches.
They're not no slouches.
So I understand Sam Howard being able to throw for so many yards, but again, the front line
for the Eagles, when the front line for the Eagles does not dominate a game, you get the results that you got today.
Listen, the Eagles defense the last few weeks have allowed 34 points, 42 points, and tonight 33 points.
Why?
Why?
Because that front line has to dominate.
They got to dominate.
They have to find a way to put pressure and make the quarterbacks that they're playing against uncomfortable.
And they have to be able to do that.
What did the offense give you tonight?
They gave you 13.
They gave you 19 last week and they got a little, they got a lot of that in mop up time.
Right.
So what do we see?
Okay.
You can't generate pressure up front with your front four.
Now your back end has already been compromised because I don't think they're very good in
coverage and I don't think they tackle very well.
And so now, and plus your offense can't match
the opposing team's offensive output.
Boy, you in trouble, Ocho.
Right.
You in trouble.
Unless you can force turnovers
to take possessions away from the opposing team offense.
Right.
It's going to be tough.
Because Dallas, I mean,
Dallas was really doing whatever they want to.
But the key for the Dallas Cowboys is that number 87.
That tied in Ferguson.
Now, I've been on his band.
He had a game.
I like the swag that he possessed.
I like he believed he that dude.
He believes it.
Dak believes in it.
I love it.
He get up every time.
Let him know.
Yeah, I got it.
And I don't get another one, too.
Yeah, they're going to come back to me on third down and you ain't going to be able
to do nothing about it
he had a huge
he had a very big
third down catch
very big third down catch
and that could then split
when he came back
when he came back underneath
and the DB was right there
draped on him
but he made
man
he nice
he nice
and that could
that could also be
the difference maker
especially when it come
playoff time
when you want to keep
on C.D. Lamb and Gallup and Brandon Cooks.
I'm not saying they will struggle, but I'm just saying if things aren't going their way,
having that security blanket in Ferguson would be big for Dak.
This is the Cowboys' fourth win by 20 or more points this season.
Two more than any other team in the NFL.
The Cowboys had four such wins under McCarthy in their first three seasons.
Combined, this year they already have
four, what I think, what, five games to go
or four games to go? With four games to go.
So congratulations to the Cowboys.
I have a question. Go ahead.
Before you go on. Yes.
I know you're giving Dak his flowers.
But is Dak Prescott
your MVP as of right now?
No.
Did you see?
You said we're going to talk about it.
You know what?
We got to say that.
Did you see what Purdy did?
Yeah.
368 on 19 completions.
Yeah.
He might have had more if Brandon Ayuk didn't get stripped from the back.
Because Brandon Ayuk about to hit his head on the goal post.
He got careless with the football.
But I think right now,
the quarterback-
It's hard for me to argue with you.
It's hard for me to argue the fact
after you just said Purdy.
Okay.
Hey,
this is a horse race.
They right here, Ocho.
They coming down the backstretch.
They coming down the backstretch.
Okay.
The Bills beat the Chiefs
20 to 17.
And everybody's going up in arms
about Ocho.
How the hell could Darius Toney line up a half a yard?
You can't even see the ball from the sideline.
He's so far over the ball.
And they mad at the official for calling it.
But see, Ocho, and I told you this.
I told you this earlier, Ocho, and you didn't want agreement.
I said, there's a reason why the Giants got rid of a first-round pick
22 games into his career.
Because you know why?
Because Darius Toney is not going to get better because they keep making excuses.
Instead of them saying he was wrong for lining up offside, the official's supposed to warn him.
He's supposed to tell us.
Well, actually, now you do know that as a receiver, as a former receiver that played for a while,
if I'm covering the ball just a tad bit
and the official can't see it, if I don't check with him,
the official will say,
hey, hey,
young fella, back up, back up, back up,
back up a little bit. Okay, the side judge
is going to tell you that.
Tell the people at home
where you are when he's telling you that.
You're outside the numbers. He's not
telling you that in that tight split that Caderian
Tony had. Yeah, I forgot. They were in
a bunch. They were in a condensed split, the bunch split.
You're right, you're right, you're right, you're right.
Hold on. But what
do you do? You look to the official.
Yeah, I always check. I always check.
You're doing this. Hey, I'm okay. He's going to tell you.
Back up a little bit, 85.
Or he's going to say, you good.
But I have a question.
I have a question.
In that moment, though, in that moment, even as a referee, with a call of that magnitude, with the game on the line, do you really want to make that call to decide a game? Oh, Joe, he's offside.
I'm just asking you, baby.
I'm just asking you.
I just want to know how you felt.
Last year, last year, that call, that play was called twice.
Only twice in an entirety of an entire season.
This year, it's been called 11 times.
I'm assuming maybe they're paying attention to it more often now.
But for it to come down to that, when the Chiefs could have won the game,
to say, you know what, we're going to call it.
To me, it just, ugh. Ocho,
you couldn't even see the ball.
You couldn't see the ball blowing.
I can't even argue the fact
though. Ocho, remember in the
Super Bowl with Bradbury
the fourth? Because they say
you can't make that call. Ocho,
he held him.
How would this have been
if Bradbury would have said after the game, they don't make the call.
He said, yeah, I held it.
What would have been said?
The man told you he held it.
But see, the problem with Kadarius Tony.
Now, how many times is he going to drop the ball?
How many times is he going to fumble?
How many times is he going to do these bonehead mistakes?
And instead of trying, they're trying to blame the official.
Not one person said Kadarius Tony was at fault because he lined his butt up upside.
We blaming the officials.
When he fumbled the ball, when he dropped passes, we make excuses for him.
And he's never going to get better because you keep making it.
It's like a child.
It's like a kid, Ocho.
At some point in time, you know, the kid is bad.
You blame the teacher or you blame the principal.
You blame everybody except where the blame's supposed to be placed.
Blame Kadarius Toney.
He's a receiver.
Yeah, he's a receiver.
In defense of him, for me, I like Kadarius Toney.
He's made some mistakes.
He drops some balls.
But I understand
In order for the Chiefs
To get back to
Where they want to get to
We're going to need
Kadarius Tony to show up
And be the Kadarius Tony
We used to see
And listen to me
Stay with me baby
The flashes that we've seen
From him
When he was with the Giants
The flashes that we've seen
From him
Last year
When he could be electric
With the football
We need that consistently
MVS
We need MVS to step up.
We need them to be able to help Patrick Mahomes be the Super Bowl two-time winning Super Bowl quarterback that we're used to seeing.
And in order for them to get where they want to, and you talk about Lombardi and playoffs and all that, until they step up and play to the caliber that they can be playing like, it's not going to happen.
can be playing like,
it's not going to happen.
But I don't want to, I don't want to,
I don't want to harp on Kadarius
and blame him for the loss
because in order for him
to get to the motherfucking chip
on what they're trying to get to,
we need Kadarius Toney
to be who he is
from the K all the way
to the goddamn T.
Hold on.
Give me,
Ocho,
but you don't notice something?
Now they scored 17 points.
Yeah.
Remember now, the fact about it, they got 17 points. Yeah. Remember now, think about it.
They got 17.
How much did they get in a couple of weeks?
You got it up here?
Hold on.
Okay.
Today, they scored 17.
In week 13, the loss to the Packers, they had 19.
Week 12, they scored 31 against the Raiders,
but the Raiders scored zero points, and they lost the game 3-0 today.
In week 11, they had 17 points.
In week 9, they had 21 points, but they got shit out in the second half in week eight they had
nine points you see ocho what's happening it's getting harder and harder for them to score
points yeah yeah the one thing that we can always count on patrick mahomes at home oh you got to put
up 28 to 30 to beat him yeah and we see we keep saying oh we need these guys but hold on we did
we did the same damn over.
When are they going to show
the consistency
that you say they need to show
when you haven't seen it all year?
Yeah, I know.
We haven't seen it all year,
but you know what it comes down to, right?
You know what it comes down to.
When it actually matters,
when it actually matters
and when it actually counts,
you're going to have to make the plays.
You're going to have to.
I'm just saying what they got to do
in order to get back and be in contention,
especially when playoff time come,
the fellas are going to have to step up.
Make the mistakes now.
I'd rather Kadarius Toney make the motherfucker mistake
right now and learn from it
and then understand and go back to the drawing board
during the week and have that talk
with motherfucker Mahomes. Like, man, listen, if we are going to play, it and then understand and go back to the drawing board during the week and have that talk with
motherfucker Mahomes. Like, man, listen, if we are going to play, if we're going to go into games
and they're going to scheme in ways to stop Travis Kelsey, you got to make the plays for me.
Patrick Mahomes need to go to Good Darius and say, I need to be able to trust you. I have to be able
to count on you because when we go into this game, whatever game it may be,
whoever we might play down the road, they're
going to count or lock in
on Travis Kelsey. I need you to play for
me. I need you to be there for me.
But Ocho, you keep saying we're trying to get
these mistakes out of the way. Hell, we're in
week 13, Ocho. And he's still making the
same bonehead mistakes. He's still doing the
same thing. Dropping passes, fumbling
the ball, and doing this. So,
when is that going to get out of the system?
And see what you do.
I can't say when it's going to get out of the system,
but this is a game of football, and you want
to play to perfection
as much as possible.
That's why you practice. You practice it
week in and week out, and you get out there
on Sundays, and with the results, you want it
to go exactly how they draw it up,
you know, as far as the
game plan is concerned, but sometimes it don't
go like that, huh? Sometimes it don't.
It's like when someone steals
a car, and instead of we getting
mad at the person that stole the car,
we blame the police for chasing them.
See, you get the
same thing. You didn't blame Caterius Tony
at first, you blamed the official and said why you called that
in that situation
I was saying just because
I don't want to leave the game
in the official's hands
He did that
Let me ask you a question
If he's not lined up offside
how's the game in the official hand?
He put the game in the official hand by his alignment
Right, right, right, right.
I said it was their fault, man.
I said it was their fault.
But I'm just saying, I just wish it hadn't come down to the officials being the ones.
He robbed us of the player of the year.
He robbed us of that, Ocho.
He took that away from us.
Imagine Travis Kelsey highlight tape when he goes into the Hall of Fame.
That's number one.
And he had a game-winning catch in the divisional round of the playoffs.
The overtime catch, he had some tremendous catches.
The one that gets the charges in overtime, game-winning catches.
He goes 40, 50 yards for a touchdown.
That would have been the play of Travis Kelsey's career.
And he robbed us of that.
He did that.
Not the official.
He did it.
Yeah. That's crazy. Yeah, that's crazy.
That's crazy.
Regarding Andy Reid's comment, referee
Carl Sheppard said that if a coach
or receiver looks for
alignment advice, official will
give it to them. But ultimately,
they are
responsible for wherever
they line up.
If you look to me,
hey, am I good?
Am I good? Yeah. You good?
You good, 84? Yes, sir.
Okay, no, back up a little bit. Back up a little bit,
84. Back up a little bit. Okay.
If you look, because if I give you advice on you, I'm not supposed to be doing
that. I'm supposed to remain mom.
I ain't supposed to say nothing
unless you ask.
Right.
Okay?
So we would give them some sort of warning if it was anywhere close.
But in this particular, it's beyond a warning.
And they have, hey, 84, be careful now.
You're leaving a little quick now.
Sit in there a little long.
Remember I told you, I hear, I ain't waiting to the tongue.
Ocho, I would go.
Remember I told you I would go.
84 slowed down a little bit.
Now you leave it a little quick.
Okay, but
I mean
I don't know Ocho.
Because here's the thing.
Kansas City has never played a playoff game outside of Arrowhead.
Yeah.
And Patrick Mahomes' career never, ever played outside of Arrowhead.
Every divisional game, every wild card game,
every game has been played in their building.
Yeah.
Do you think that would make a difference?
I think, if I'm not mistaken, you think that would make a difference? I think,
if I'm not mistaken,
if I'm not mistaken,
I think Josh Allen is 3-1
against Mahomes
in the regular season,
but when it matters most,
which is the playoffs,
I think Mahomes is undefeated,
you know,
against brother Josh Allen.
But where has those games
taken place in the playoffs?
At home.
At Arrowhead.
I have a question.
Do you really think the 12th man really matters that much,
especially in a game of that magnitude, do you think?
Why do you think they fight so hard to get it if it didn't matter?
Right.
Especially in football because the crowd knows,
and I understand people going to silent count now.
Silent count, right, right.
And still, if I get two false starts, and it depends on when I get them,
I get my guy up because all of a sudden that guy the offensive lineman is looking inside it just
he has to be looking just slightly inside to see the ball at the snap of his eye i'm a defensive
lineman that's a von miller that's a miles garrett that's a tj watt you know they don't need but half
a step at all yeah oh yeah they get they get a half a step they're gonna get skinny and boom your
quarterback in the hit your quarterback in the back yeah it definitely it definitely matters for
them if this was the old kansas city offense i would agree with you also it wouldn't matter
but now they really need it because here ocho they struggling they struggling at home. Yeah. They're struggling at home. Yeah.
You said it. You said it
when we talked before that
as great as Patrick Mahomes is,
unless the receivers play
up the par, he won't be able to overcome that.
He won't be able to overcome
them playing
subpar as is
what they're doing right now.
Yes. You're absolutely right.
Because if you look at it early in the ballgame,
he was completing passes.
He pirouetted.
He pumped fake it and threw it inside on Ocho.
That's great for highlight.
But you're not winning consistently having to do all of that.
Right.
You're not.
You're not.
And it just becomes.
And then all of a sudden it puts more pressure on him because he
feels he has to be perfect he got to do more yeah he got to do more when he should be doing less
and they should be doing more or they should do their their part and let him do his part but
because they're not doing their part he's he's feeling that he's got do more. Yes. And that's the last thing.
Quentin Hector donated $10.
Ocho, simply put,
please hold these professional accountants
instead of playing devil's advocate every time.
Tony is not doing what he needs to do.
He needs your honesty, not your empathy.
I was honest.
I said he messed up.
I said he lined up all...
I did say that.
I said it. We got you around to it. We got you lined up all... I did say that. I said it.
We got you around to it.
We got you around to it.
Yeah, you got me around to it.
The funny thing about it,
you talk about I shouldn't empathize with him.
Shit, I remember lining up all sides too.
Same way, covering the goddamn ball.
They called me the goddamn touchdown
because of my black ass.
Hey, I did the same.
Oh, Joe.
I did the same.
We played Minnesota Minnesota and the guy
with this was had to be 93 and so normally I lined up on the ball lined up
on the ball I always lined up on the ball and the receiver was like the
disease was all lined up on the ball I should have just I should have just left it alone. But I motioned
him to come back
and when I
went to step forward, John snapped
it.
They threw me
like a little in route. I went 75
yards. They tackled me like the eighth.
They brought it back.
Brought it back.
They brought it back.
They brought it back. I know you were mad Brought it back. They brought it back, Ocho. They brought it back.
I know you were hard.
I know you were mad.
I couldn't be mad at nobody but myself.
Myself, yeah.
Because all I had to do was stay my black ass still.
He was fine.
It wasn't like the plate couldn't go off if I was off the ball and he was on the ball.
Right, right.
We was going to run the same route regardless.
No reading no matter what, yeah.
But you know what?
That's how it is.
Ocho, Faith donated $100.
Ocho.
Damn.
Is that Faith Evans?
No, I don't know who this Faith is,
but she got this smoke for you.
She said, Ocho,
you gave more heat
for choosing dogs over people.
This season,
Kansas City has more drops
than a group of geriatrics sperm donors
in fertility clinic.
And you gave him grace?
Wire receivers that need heat too.
We're rooting for you, bro.
Still, team dogs.
Yeah.
Hey, listen, listen.
Kadarius Tony going to be all right, man.
I've seen the flashes.
Everybody in this chat that's watching, we've seen what Kadarius Tony can do.
I know once that confidence sets in,
I know what you get.
He made mistakes.
He dropped balls.
He had a bonehead play today,
and we can say it cost his team his game.
We know that.
Who knows?
We know that.
We don't know if Buffalo would have come down the field
and scored or not, Ocho,
but it definitely cost him the play.
This was the play of the year.
This was about to be the play thus far.
Now, somebody else might come and do something,
and they have seven laterals,
and it goes for a touchdown, and they win the game.
But this was about thus far,
this was going to be the play of the year
because I didn't see this coming.
And normally, at this stage of the game,
you're not even thinking like that, Ocho.
No, no, not at all.
Not at all.
I would have never thought.
Man, I would have been too afraid
because, man,
because just by luck,
I throw it to somebody
and they bobble it.
They drop it.
Might go look at me,
might go look at me
wanting to strangle me
because he's saying,
you shouldn't have threw it to him.
Mm-hmm.
You know what I do think?
I do think as much as everyone,
even tomorrow,
are going to be up in arms
about the play, about the offsides,
I think that receiving core is going to come through when it counts the most, and that's the playoffs.
I look at the Chiefs' remaining schedule.
They got the Patriots.
I'm counting that as a win, and I mean no disrespect by that.
They have the Raiders after that.
I'm counting that as a win as well.
They have my Bengals.
Well, if the Bengles are winning that,
even with Jake Browning back there,
they got the Chargers.
The Chargers, I'm not sure
what's going on with them.
Well, they lost,
what do you call them,
fractured his index finger,
Justin Herbert.
And so they had to go to Easton Stick.
Easton Stick.
So that's three wins as of before.
I just named.
They ain't beating the bagel, but
they're probably going to beat the Patriots, they're probably going to beat
the Raiders, and they're probably going to beat the Chargers.
So,
there we go. That's four
games. That's four games
of consistency where
the receivers themselves can build confidence
and I think they're going to be alright
come playoff time where it really matters.
Get all the goddamn,
get all the motherfucking mistakes out
right now while you can.
Get them all out.
Kadarius, Tony,
I know you're going to see this.
I know what you can do, boy.
I know what you can do.
Tighten up.
Tighten up.
And sometimes
you voice that anger at the officials
so you don't put him further in the tank
than he already is.
Yeah.
Because he's feeling bad
because you saw him,
he put the coat on
and he tried to hide,
but the CBS cameras kept finding him.
Right on.
No matter where he went,
they kept,
hey,
they kept finding him
wherever,
it's just like anything.
It's just like
when you get a holding call
or you drop a plate,
cameras gonna find you.
You know what, make it even worse though, is when you get a holding call or you drop a plate, camera's going to find you. You know what makes it even worse, though?
When you get a penalty, right?
The worst thing that they do,
officer holding, number,
God damn, ref.
I don't need you to put me on blast like that.
So it makes it even worse.
So understanding how he feels
in that manner, in that moment,
and then thinking about,
well, God damn,
this is probably the play
that would have won us the game.
He already feeling bad, man.
Feeling bad, bro.
And I understand.
I understand Patrick Mahomes' frustrations,
obviously not leaving the game
in the ref's hands,
even though Kadarius was offside.
I know he was offside.
I know he was.
I know he covered the ball.
But I'm just saying it sucks.
It sucks.
Mm-hmm.
The 49ers beat the Seahawks, beat division rival Seahawks.
The 49ers won their fifth straight game.
Brock Purdy, 368 yards on only 19 completions.
Christian McCaffrey took the first play of the game, 72-yard run.
He finished 145 yards on 16 attempts.
Deebo Samuels, over 149 yards.
Brandon Ayuk had 120-plus.
George Kittle had, I think he had three catches
for like 60 yards.
Deebo, Brandon Ayuk, and George Kittle
each had a play for over 40 yards.
DK Metcalf and Damodur Lenore
were both ejected in the ballgame.
But the 49ers offensively,
because Kyle Shanahan, he calls the game.
And they put so much stress on you.
Horizontally and vertically. And they put so much stress on you. Horizontally, horizontally,
and vertically. So they'll go
side to side, and they don't have a problem
because the guys are so tremendous running
for the catch. You look at, they're just trying to get
the ball. And I love what Kyle did today.
They threw a little quick route to
Debo. Debo ran it down. He thought
he had a touchdown. They stopped him at the one
yard line. They put him at a tight four
mission. Hand it to him.
Nah, you go get that, bro.
You got, you got,
hey, I ain't gonna let
nobody get your,
I ain't gonna let your back,
hey, nah, nah,
I ain't gonna let nobody
get your honey.
You go on and finish it off now.
You don't, you don't,
hey, you don't brought
the flower with the chocolate
and got a nice move.
Hey, you got, hey,
you got to seal the deal
at the end of the night.
Brandon Ayuk, 126 yards.
Kittle had a big catch.
Deebo was sensational.
Christian McCaffrey was sensational.
Offensive line did a great job of Purdy.
And Purdy did a phenomenal job of throwing the football.
He was sensational today, Ocho.
And yeah, he and Dak, I think for the quarterbacks,
I mean, really, it's like when you really get down to it,
it's kind of going to be like, I think it's going to be four guys.
I think it's going to be Dak, Pur it's gonna be that purdy c mac and uh tyreek c mac okay i like that i like the fact that we have tyreek in
the competition now even though when you think about mvp for some reason it's always it's a
quarterback it's gonna be a quarterback it's a running back rush for 2500 yards or have or have
an lt type where he scores 30 touchdowns.
Right,
right,
right,
right.
Now,
you know,
cause when LT,
LT had like,
LT had like 1,800 yards and 31 touchdowns.
Yeah.
I remember that.
I remember that season.
Okay.
Yeah.
Now,
but 1,500,
1,600 yards because these quarterbacks throw it for 4,500 and 40 touchdowns,
5,000.
It's just,
it's just because they've,
they've geared it. It's kind of like an NCAA, the Heism. It's just because they've geared it.
It's kind of like an NCAA, the Heisman.
It just, they normally, now look,
we've had outliers, Devontae Smith,
just a couple of years ago.
But he had one of the great statistical receiving seasons
in college history.
But talk about the 49ers and what you like
from them offensively and defensively.
Man, listen, defensively,ers and what you like from them offensively and defensively. Listen, defensively,
we know what you get.
You know what you get
with Fred Warner,
Jadavious Ward,
and those boys.
Even though Ward went out early
with a groin injury.
Yeah, he went out
with a groin injury,
but I just want to talk
about the goddamn offense.
I've seen...
Let me ask you a question
before I talk about Purdy.
I'm going to get to Purdy.
What do you think when we think about
the greatest show on turf
that offense they had
yeah
Isaac Bruce
Torrey Holt
Kurt Warner
Marshall Falk
Ozzie Harkin
Ozzie Harkin
Ricky Pro
how do you compare that
to the 49ers
is there any type of comparison
even though it's a little different
you know yeah where the offenses comparison, even though it's a little different, you know, the way
the offenses are run,
even though the play styles of
skill receivers are a little bit different?
Well, Big Game was looking
to take the top off it.
He and Akeem
was great. You know, the middle, you know,
throw the jailbreak screen, because he was such a
great punt returner, get the ball in his hands and space.
Ricky Pro was that possession receiver.
Marshall Falk could do a little bit of everything.
Everything.
Kind of like Christian McCaffrey, line him up out wide, put him in the slot,
hand it to him, pitch it to him, throw it to him, and he could get you.
Yes.
So they're very similar.
You look at Kurt Warner was an undrafted free agent.
Brock Purdy was Mr. Irrelevant, the last pick selected in the NFL draft.
Right.
Nobody kind of expected anything out of those guys.
Both got their job because the starting quarterback got hurt.
Got hurt, yeah.
And never looked back.
But, yeah, the thing that they're doing is that the big play potential.
Deebo is looking to hit his head on the goalpost every freaking time he touches
the football. Whether you hand it to
him or you throw it to him. Christian McCaffrey
the same way. Brandon
IU, he's getting better and better
and Kittle, he can block
like a lineman. He can catch like a
tight end. He can catch like a wide
receiver. He's tremendous run after the
catch. Offensive line does a great job
and you already know, if you run to the left side behind big trent and you're getting you're getting some eight yards
regardless every time every time goddamn purdy man has seven straight games completing 70 percent
or more of his passes the funny thing about it the last player to complete 70 percent or more sending more than passes in a straight games was goddamn Joe Montana.
Joe Montana.
Joe Montana and I just want to play devil's advocate for a little bit.
Do we still if we if we take this 31 other teams?
Yeah.
If you take Purdy off of the 49ers with the supporting cast that he has, can he still
put up the same type of production?
I'm just asking the question.
No, I don't think
he can because I don't look at him
as a guy that can perform
outside of the system.
Some guys can perform outside of the system.
I think he's
perfect because here's the thing
which you have to understand, Ocho,
is that Kyle
is, look, I played for Kyle's dad.
Kyle is a chip off his
old block. He's not an easy guy to
play for, and he coaches
hard.
A lot of quarterbacks don't
get coached hard because
you know, you can't curse
and you can't chastise them
in front of the group. Normally, they go
into the meeting
and they meet one-on-one the coordinator or the head coach.
But that's not how Kyle.
Kyle will let you know.
If you F up, he's going to tell you
because that's how Mike was.
But I think you can't knock what he's doing
because yes, a lot of, I mean,
Deebo is putting the ball on the mud.
That one he threw to Deebo,
I don't know what Jamal Adams was doing.
Bruh, why would you stop your feet and you 15 yards deep?
Yeah.
Why would you do that?
What are you looking for?
I think he might have thought.
Give me if I'm wrong.
He might have thought he was going to the corner flat, like rounding it off.
Yeah.
He just kept going to the corner. Yeah, he kept it high. That's what I'm thinking. Yeah, like rounding it off. Yeah. And he just kept going to the corner.
Yeah, he kept it high.
That's what I'm thinking.
Yeah, he kept it high instead.
But you know why he kept it high?
Because your feet were planted in the cement.
Mm-hmm.
So guess what?
Guessing, guessing.
Guessing.
You're exactly right.
He guessed wrong.
But here's the thing.
My coach, Les Steckle,
who's my position coach in 93,
he said, son, if you hesitate, you beat.
Every time.
All it takes is a split second, man.
Oh, so you got to go somewhere in a hurry.
If he who hesitates is beat in that sport.
Now, baseball, look, I understand baseball, but I do understand this.
If you hesitate in the game of football,
you will get beat.
Because you have to understand while you're
hesitating, that guy's moving.
Yeah.
You gotta keep your feet alive.
You gotta stay alive.
You gotta stay alive.
But Purdy has been, look,
since they got them dogs back, since Devo
came back, since Christian McCaffrey
has been healthy,
Big Trent,
T-Dub has been back,
they've gone to
another level.
And they can, at the drop
of a hat, three, four positions
in a row, they got 28. 28, easy.
So I'm looking at the remaining
schedule, right? And I'm not, I don't want to sit here
and crown, you know what,
they're going to win the Super Bowl, blah, blah, blah. I believe they'll be
the number one seed. I know you're
going with this because I think they got Arizona,
they got, I think they got Arizona,
they got Ravens, Commanders,
Rams. They could
sweep that. I'm looking.
They got the Ravens on Christmas. They got the Ravens on Christmas.
They got the Ravens on Christmas.
That's going to be a good one. I'm looking at
from a defensive
perspective, do the
Ravens have the personnel to match
up with what the 49ers
do?
It's going to be tough because I don't...
Exactly. That's the problem.
Offensively, can they continue to put out the output?
Can the Ravens continue to put out the output
and match the 49ers score for score?
They're going to have to.
The thing, but my concern is,
is that if you don't pressure Purdy,
you can't beat the 49ers.
Right.
You got to pressure him.
You got to make him uncomfortable.
You got to pressure him. You got to pressure him. Get him off the spot. Yeah. You. Right. You got to pressure him. You got to make him uncomfortable. You got to pressure him.
You got to pressure him.
Get him off the spot.
Yeah.
You got to.
You got to.
But Kyle does a great job of rolling him,
half rolling him, booting him, misdirection.
They change it.
They change, you know,
the bunch formation and guys disperse
and they go a lot of different directions.
They'll give you the same look from a different formation
and he constantly keeps you guessing right without without the assistance of
turnovers and you know turnovers are the great equalizer because if you're better than a team
and you turn the ball over you go down to their level or you bring them up to your level
whatever the case may be be you make yourself equal to them i just don don't see Ocho without the assistance
of maybe three turnovers
in a game.
Right.
Or your team,
the opposing team quarterback
plays the game of his life.
It's just hard for me
to see a scenario,
especially in the regular season
of a team beating them.
Now, I'm anxious
to see that game
that Monday night.
That's going to tell us a lot
that Christmas game,
the Ravens, because
the Ravens right now are in the catbird
seat. They own their number one,
they control their destiny.
They can be the number one seed.
I think
they're going to have to win out in order to be
the number one seed, the 49ers. But
they're the only team that I don't care where
they play. They can go back to Philly.
They can go to Dallas.
And I still, I believe
they will be favored to win.
Yeah.
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Let's talk about DK.
DK and Dumbledore, Lenore, were both ejected late.
DK picked up Fred Warner, slammed him to the turf
after he had laddered the ball.
He didn't know he laddered though. He thought Fred
still had the ball. Right. Then Fred
pushed DK from behind before
the wide receiver jumps up,
grabs Fred by
his face mask, give him a little shove,
like, bro, who you think you talking to?
And then shoved him. Then Lenore get involved
into the ensuing scuffle. Fred
said he told DK, you tackle really
well before the altercation.
For some reason,
he didn't like that.
I guess what happened,
it happened,
well, guess what happened,
happened.
It's unfortunate,
but he got to learn
to keep his composure.
Yeah.
And we've seen DK
get a couple of these
this season.
I think this is his third
or fourth one this season,
unsportsmanlike conduct.
Yeah.
What's your takeaway?
I mean, he's frustrated.
Emotion's getting the best of him.
Not having the type of game you want to have,
especially with what you just did
against the Cowboys not too long ago.
You weren't able to get off the same way.
Team is losing.
You're frustrated.
You're emotional.
So I get it, but you can't do that.
You can't do that.
You can't hurt your team
obviously we need
they need you out there
on the field
especially Geno being out
Geno being out
so you got to be on the field
to help your team
and at least
do your best
to will them to a win
even though
the chance to beat
the 49ers
today
it was slim to none
but at least be on the field
to contribute
right
Zach Wilson had his best game of the season Zach Wilson as today it was slim to none, but at least be on the field to contribute. Right.
Zach Wilson had his best game of the season. Who? Who? Zach Wilson.
Zach Wilson. Say it loud and proud.
Jets beat the Texans 30-6.
Jets snap a five-game losing streak
after a very sluggish start
in which they had 11 consecutive points
the first scoreless half, first half,
since 2019. But the Jets
found the rhythm and scored 30 points in the second half,
the most points they've scored in the game since scoring 31 against the Broncos
in week five.
Zach Wilson.
Zach Wilson.
27-36, 3-0-1, two touchdowns.
CJ Stroud exited the ballgame late in the fourth quarter
after taking a hit from Big Quinny, Quinny Williams.
Yeah.
Talk about what did you like from the Jets today?
From the Jets today, I just want to say I'd like to thank the Jets offensive line.
I'd like to thank the Jets offensive coordinator.
I'm not sure what his name is.
I apologize for not knowing that.
Nathaniel Hackett.
Nathaniel Hackett.
I love you, Nathaniel Hackett. I love you, Nathaniel Hackett.
I love you.
I'm not sure what plays you called today,
but that's the Zach Wilson I'm used to seeing.
That's the Zach Wilson we can see.
You ain't saw that Zach Wilson.
Hey, hey, stay with me, baby.
That's the Zach Wilson we can see week in and week out
with that type of play calling.
Garrett Wilson, I love you.
Alan Lazard, I love you.
Randall Cobb, that's what I'm
talking about.
This is what the Jets can be
week in and week out.
This is what we can do.
And I'm saying we because I'm riding the
Zach Wilson train since he left
motherfucking BYU and I ain't getting the
fuck off.
Goddamn, that shit felt good today
because I was ready for this. So this is Zach Wilson,
huh? That's Zach.
Today is what you
saw today? That's
Zach Wilson.
The other
Zach Wilson we've been seeing, that's his
representative. No, that's
Zach Wilson, where the
play calling isn't up to par, where
things aren't going well. You see what you do? You see what you did? When he plays well, it's Zach Wilson. the play calling isn't up to par, where things aren't going well. You see what you do?
You see what you did? When he plays
well, it's Zach Wilson. When he doesn't
play well, it's the play calling. Now, which is it?
Sometimes, sometimes
things don't go well. You didn't say sometimes.
That's not what you said.
I'm telling you why Zach
Wilson played well today
because the play calling
was up to par. So when he doesn't play well, the play play calling was up to par.
So when he doesn't play well, the pay calling is not up to par.
So yes.
So you're excusing.
That's the reason.
So in other words, you're excusing Zach Wilson's play because it has to be someone else when he doesn't play well.
Well, Zach Wilson is, Zach Wilson can't overcome bad play calling.
He can't overcome that.
Can a bad, can a good play caller overcome Zach Wilson?
Again, you have a tendency to do...
I have a question. I have a question.
Go ahead. Let me ask you a question.
Yes. Is Nathaniel
Hackett known for being
an elite play caller like an Eric
Biennemi or Andy Reid?
No, but Zach Wilson... Say it again?
Zach Wilson is not... Is Zach Wilson known to be an elite enemy or Andy Reid? No. Is he known? Say it again. Is he? Is he known?
Is Zach Wilson known to be
elite quarterback?
Is he Jordan Love?
Is he CJ Stroud?
Did you?
Is he Jordan Love?
Is he CJ Stroud?
I just asked you a question.
I want you to stay on topic.
I asked you a question.
How are you going to answer
a question with a question?
You never answered
the first question.
But what you do is
that you blame everybody else. When your guy
plays back home. I didn't blame nobody.
I didn't blame anybody. You just had to play caller.
I just told you why the Jets
looked the way they did and why
my guy
Zach Wilson was 27 for 36 for
301 and two TDs. That's what I just told you.
All I said, but what you said
is that you said this is the Zach Wilson
we can expect when we get the play calling.
So I'm saying, so when Zach Wilson
played bad, it's Nathaniel Hackett's fault.
When he played good, you just said
it was Zach Wilson. You didn't give
Nathaniel Hackett no credit. You gave the credit
to Zach Wilson. Because, wait
a minute. Hold on, hold on, hold on.
Who's on the field? Who's on the field?
Who's on the field? Who's on the field? Who's on the field?
Who's on the field executing the plays that are called from Nathaniel Hackett?
He was on the field when he was looking like what the elephant left on the showground, too.
But you didn't mention that.
Wait, hold on, hold on, hold on.
What the elephant left on the showground?
You tell me what he ate after eating all them peanuts and hay.
What did he leave on the showground?
Yeah, that's what he left.
That's what Zach Wilson was playing like.
Let's stay on the positive. Let's stay on the positive.
Let's stay on the positive. The Jets
and Zach Wilson played
good fucking football and as a Jets
fan, I'm a Jets fan.
Actually, no, I'm a Zach Wilson fan.
I'm happy for the young fella and today's
game is going to build him
great confidence
builder. You said that when they played the Broncos. You said that when they beat Philly him great confidence builder. You said that when they
played the Broncos. You said that when they beat
Philly. Great confidence builder.
You said that when they beat Philly. Who did Jets play
next? Who did Jets play next? I'm just saying.
Okay, who did Jets play
next? Somebody ask somebody, who did Jets play
next? Ash pulling it up.
Who did Jets play next?
I'm telling you it's going to carry over to
next week, offensively. Well, it's going to carry over into next week, offensively.
Well, it's something about
having a game like this.
Having a game like this
when everybody's been in your head,
when they benched you last week,
for goddamn Trevor Simeon.
They played the Dolphins.
They played the Dolphins.
Oh, shit, they played the Dolphins.
In Miami.
Yeah.
For real?
Why'd it change your tone?
If Zach Wilson is what you said
who they play
does not matter
right
right
but you
no no no
don't say right
no no no
I need
no
I need you to have
the bravado
that you just had
two minutes ago
I still got the bravado
but I'm from
you know I'm from Liberty City
you know I'm from Miami
I ain't got nothing to do with it
no
you ride with
you ain't so
you ain't riding with Zach
no more
I'm a Dolphins fan
you know I'm a Dolphins fan
first
I was listen wait stay with first Stay with me real quick baby
Let me finish
I was born at Jackson Memorial Hospital
Right near Overtown at 308
On January 9th 1968
So I'm a Dolphins fan at heart
He should call it
You're a Dolphins fan
I didn't know
The Jets was playing the Dolphins
It does not matter
Zach Wilson finna have a game though
he finna have a game
he finna have a game
so with J-Ram and David Howard
okay
I can counter that
with Alan Lazard, Randall Cobb and Garrett Wilson
what's happening
the Alan Lazard was a healthy stretch
that was three weeks ago you still on that? you still on the happening? You talking about the Alan Lazard that was a healthy stretch? The Alan Lazard?
Oh, that was three weeks ago.
You still on that?
You still on the pass?
You still on the pass?
Let's make a healthy bet.
Let's make a healthy bet.
What?
What you want to bet?
Make a lot of yourself.
Make a lot of yourself.
No.
$100.
You want?
$100. What you got?
So what's that?
Listen, I don't want to bet
Dolphins Jets
because I'm a Dolphins fan.
I'm betting Zach.
You took it right out of my mouth.
Let's bet Zach numbers.
Okay, go ahead and bet it.
Okay.
What's the number?
Let's bet he have another 300-yard game.
Okay, bet.
No, I bet.
I'll bet you.
Okay, well, we got a shake.
Give me a virtual shake. Yeah, I bet. I bet you. Okay, well, we got a shake. Give me a virtual shake.
Yeah, $100.
Zach can have another 300-yard game.
Ocho, you got to stop.
What did I do?
Ocho, you got to stop that.
You can't say when a guy plays good, it's him.
And when a guy plays bad, it's somebody else's fault.
You can't do that.
Okay, okay.
All right, it was Zach Wilson's fault when he played bad.
Okay.
Is that better?
No,
we're going to move on.
Cause,
uh,
I think we just need to move on.
And,
uh,
I know you're going to see this.
Zach,
Zach,
probably watch him.
Zach,
I know you watch it,
baby.
I love you,
baby.
Keep that shit up.
That's what I'm talking about,
baby.
Let's go.
The Ravens went a thriller in overtime,
37, 31. That was crazy. Wallace Ravens win a thriller in overtime 37-31.
That was crazy.
Kyron Wallace walks it off with a 76-yard punt return
with just over a minute to play in the fourth quarter.
Hold on.
Lamar hit Zay Flowers for the go-ahead touchdown.
The two-point conversion was good,
but the Rams, led by Matthew Stafford,
drive down the field, get a game-tying field goal.
Both teams have the ball at least once in the overtime.
The Rams put the ball off, and here's what's –
Taylor – Taylor or Tyler?
Tyler.
Tyler Wallace.
Takes it 76 yards.
Matthew Stafford and Lamar was going head-to-head.
Lamar Jackson, 316 yards, three touchdowns, 70 yards rushing.
Matthew Stafford, 294, three touchdowns.
I thought Lamar played extremely well.
He had, I think that was Bateman.
If he didn't underthrow that ball and let Witherspoon.
Right.
Get his hand on it.
But I thought Lamar threw the ball exceptional today.
I thought he was in complete command.
He was decisive.
He threw the ball with conviction.
And when it wasn't there,
he took off.
There was no indecision whatsoever
with Lamar Jackson.
He looked sensational today.
OBJ is starting to look like the OBJ
that we remember.
97 yards on four catches,
highlighted by a 46-yard touchdown,
catch, roll into the end zone.
What did you like from what you saw from the Ravens?
Listen, not from the Ravens.
I like what I saw from Lamar Jackson
because as Lamar Jackson goes,
that Ravens offense and team is going to go.
I like the fact that Lamar Jackson
has become a pocket passer.
I'm not running.
I'm not looking to run unless I have to.
Lamar Jackson dropping back, processing, reading one, two, and three.
Okay, one, two, and three is not there.
Then I'll go and run.
Then I'll take off.
Zay Flowers, Odell, Bateman are doing everything they can.
Lively.
O'Dell Bateman are doing everything they can to get lively to to get open and to be available for him at all times yes the Ravens defense is so goddamn good so goddamn good today obviously
you're playing a juggernaut of an offense with Cooper Cup Stafford who can the cool that can
move the ball up and down the field.
Tyron Williams running the football.
Actually, yeah, running the ball.
And they started off the game.
The Rams started off the game, goddamn, running the ball and gashing it.
But is that going to be able to happen consistently over and over?
You fix the issues with that.
But that offense, as fucking Lamar Jackson goes, they go.
Obviously, when you think about the Ravens, obviously, their identity most of the time
or throughout the years has always been the defense.
Obviously, having someone as dynamic as Lamar Jackson, some would say offensively it would
be them.
But with Lamar playing like he played today, with them right now being the number one seed
in the AFC, if I'm not mistaken, right?
Yes.
No, Lamar, Lamar, them the number one seed.
That's what I said, number one seed in the AFC.
Number one seed in the AFC, yes.
Man, listen, as much as it pains me to say this,
they can go far.
Oh, yeah.
They can go far.
Yes, yes.
Odell, four catches, 97 yards, 46-yard touchdown against his former team.
He showed them some love at the beginning of the game,
dapped everybody up.
I'm sure it was great to see him.
And competing against those guys because, you know, he did win a Super Bowl.
I thought he was on his way to having an unbelievable day
had he not suffered that injury.
Missed all of last year.
But now it's taken him a while.
But the last three weeks,
he's shown you that he's back to be at Odell and they're giving him
opportunities.
And it's never a good thing,
but I think the Mark Andrews,
it forced Lamar to have belief in other players.
Cause he know he always had Mark Andrews in his back pocket.
I could always go to 89.
I could always find 89.
But now he has to rely on Lively.
He has to rely on Bateman.
He has to rely on Zay Flowers.
He has to rely on Odell.
And it's forced him.
And he's spreading the ball around.
And he has the utmost confidence
without his security blanket.
So I ain't got no choice.
I'm going to find me
a new security blanket.
So the first one of y'all get open, y'all my security, y'all my new security blanket. And I ain't got no choice. I'm going to find me a new security blanket. So the first one of y'all get open,
y'all my security,
y'all my new security blanket.
And then the funny thing about it,
with Mark Andrews not being out
and everyone actually being able
to be not, not,
what's the word I'm looking for?
Not only are they making
themselves available,
they're making the plays.
They're making the plays.
The goddamn Ravens are scoring 30 points
or more a game the past six or seven games.
30 points.
Yeah.
Through the air.
Yeah.
As long as the only thing, Ocho,
is just take care of the football.
Yeah, yeah.
Just take care of the football.
Total turnovers will hurt you.
Total turnovers will hurt you every time.
Congratulations to the Ravens Lamar Jackson say don't count me out for that MVP just yet either now I might have something I might have something
to say about that um looking at uh I think the Cowboys they got the Dolphins and the Bills on
their schedule and I I think I think Purdy got the 49ers coming up too now
yeah
yeah
yeah
but Arizona
and you know
I don't know about them
Arizona
Arizona messed up
the Cowboys
out the blue
I call them trap games
yeah
trap games
you have a game like that
look at the goddamn Bears
the Bears beat the Lions
today the Lions been playing
goddamn great football
all season long
and it's a division and it's a division the Lions today. The Lions been playing goddamn great football all season long. And it's a division.
And it's a division.
The Lions and Bears
are the division opponents.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's crazy.
It's just one of those things
you just never know.
Yep.
Joe Flacco leads Cleveland
over Jacksonville 31-27.
Joe Flacco helped the Browns
stand the AFC playoff mix
with an 8-5 record.
He threw for 311 yards,
26 of 45, three touchdowns,
one interception. He's the fourth quarterback
to start a game for the Browns this year.
Deshaun started one, P.J. Walker,
DTR, Dorian
Thompson-Robinson, but
and after the game,
Kevin Stefanski named
Joe Flacco the starter for the rest of the
season. What did you like?
The one thing, look, he ain't mobile.
He ain't ever going to be mobile.
The Statue of Liberty has moved more than Joe Flacco.
But I tell you what, he got a big arm.
He can throw the ball through the eye of a hurricane.
And there's not an area on the field that he can't reach.
And he got great route runner in Mari Cooper.
And Joku.
Played really well today.
They can run the ball with Ford and Kareem Hunt.
Offensive line is solid.
They might be in the mix.
We know that defense.
We know that defense can get after your quarterback
and they can pick you off.
So what would you like from the Browns today?
The fact, forget the Browns.
The Browns defense is going to be
what they do.
But goddamn Flacco,
obviously won his 100th career game
today at 38 years old,
coming off the street.
His couch.
Coming off his couch.
Or carpool, whatever.
Coming off the couch
at 38 years old.
Super Bowl winning quarterback,
might I add, 26-45, like you
said, 311 yards. That
means if you can do that
off the couch
and win a game
like he did today,
shit.
The goddamn...
Are they in contention?
The Browns are in contention.
They're definitely in the playoff contention. They'll definitely, they're smack dabbing the playoff contention
after a little bit.
They'll be a wild card though.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Because they're in a division
with the Ravens.
They're two games
behind the Ravens.
So that's a team
that when I think about it,
that's a team
that you wouldn't want to play.
You wouldn't want to play a team
like the goddamn Browns
going into the playoffs
if you get them
as a wild card
with a quarterback
that knows how to win in the
postseason. Oh, yeah.
Postseason Joe is different now.
Postseason Joe Flacco different now.
He different. Exactly.
He's gone on the road and beat
Peyton Manning. He's gone on the road
and beat Joe Flacco. He's gone on the road
water. Hey,
in the regular season,
he's so-so.
Yeah, you don't know what you're getting.
But in the postseason, Joe Flacco will bust your head.
Yeah, and then he has his supporting cast around him to get the job done.
Ocho, we got 32,000 in the chat watching us live right now.
Wait, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
32,000 people?
32,000.
We tried to get the
We tried to get the
40 then 50
Hey that's a lot of people man
That's a lot of people
That's a lot of people
Cause we get them good content
Oh man
Listen we
We ain't even got to
The good content yet
We just talking football
We ain't even get to
The good content yet
The story's coming
Oh the stuff man
Man
They talking about Ocho
Be talking about
He slaying dragon
To get a queen I said what Ocho be talking about he's slaying dragons to get a queen.
I said,
well,
Ocho did that.
They said,
yeah,
man.
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The Broncos beat the Chargers.
The Broncos are now 7-6,
one game behind the Chiefs
for first place in the AFC West.
The Broncos' defense piled up six sacks,
added two takeaways, and
did not allow third down conversion
on 12 tries.
Cortland Sutton
continued his career best season
with a one-handed
46-yard touchdown catch
from Russell Wilson
in the third quarter
and essentially
put the game away.
Sutton has,
Ocho,
check this out.
Cortland Sutton
has 10 touchdown catches
this season,
which is the most
by Bronco receivers
since Bebe,
Demarius Thomas,
rest his soul,
DT,
called 11 in 2014.
Russ finished 21 of 33, 224, two touchdowns and one interception.
Justin Herbert, as I mentioned at the top,
fractured his index finger in the second quarter, did not return.
Russell Wilson is him.
Am I allowed to say that?
Am I allowed to say that?
Obviously, we were condemning.
People were jumping on him.
People were like, you need to put away the Bible
and get out there and play some football
and execute the offense.
You know, the marriage between him and,
God damn, why am I forgetting the head coach's name?
Sean Payton.
You know, it won't go right now.
You talking about the marriage between him and the head coach?
Yeah, the marriage between him and, yeah,
you know, it seemed like it wasn't working.
It wasn't gelling.
But listen,
they was in the dating phase and they went on the honeymoon
and now you're seeing
the marriage blossom
between Sean Payton
and Russell Wilson
and things are going
exactly where they want to go.
It's not how you start,
it's how you finish
and the way they look
offensively.
Yeah, communication is key
and the way they look
offensively, Sutton
playing good football. Jerry Judy
is doing what he needs to do.
No, he not. Ocho, stop that, Ocho.
Jerry Judy. Ocho, stop that.
Ocho, stop that. Come on now. What are you going to talk about, man?
Ocho, come on. What you got?
What you got? You got something against
I ain't got nothing against. No, I'm never going to
What did you do on the day?
What did you do on the day?aday? He had some drops.
He had some drops.
He had drops.
Come on, Ocho.
He had a touchdown,
and he didn't drag his feet.
All he got to do is drag his feet,
and he got one in
and stepped out of bounds.
What?
You think he...
Maybe he didn't know.
You know, he didn't understand
spatial awareness based on...
He's the wide receiver.
You've got to know
where you are on the field, Ocho. Can I ask you a question? Yes. Are you saying... Have I ever the wide receiver. You've got to know where you are on the field, Ocho.
Can I ask you a question?
Yes.
Have I ever played wide receiver in an NFL game?
Yes.
Have I ever called a touchdown in a wide receiver in an NFL game?
Yes.
Have you ever called a touchdown and you weren't able to get both feet in?
Ocho.
Yes.
Yes.
Ocho.
Ocho, if you see the play.
It happened.
Ocho, if you saw the play, you would have said, yeah, Judy, you got to get that one in. If you saw the play. If you see the play Ocho if you saw the play you'd have said
yeah Judy
you gotta get that one in
if you saw the play
if you saw the play
one thing I know
about receivers
they want them touchdowns
they want them touchdowns
Ocho
he definitely
sometimes
you can't make that mistake
Ocho
Ocho
that's why I receive
a one on one
you right
okay
alright
that's why I receive
a one on one and he drops a rough right. Okay. All right. That's why I receive a one-on-one.
And he dropped,
Russ threw him one on the sideline,
but Ocho.
You got to keep your eyes on the ball.
He's a body catcher, Ocho.
You got to keep,
hold on, hold on.
Judy got hands now.
Don't do that.
Don't do that.
Judy got hands now.
He don't trust him.
And if he don't trust him,
why should I?
They're your hands.
If you catching everything in your body,
if you say you got good hands,
and you got to catch everything.
Listen,
catching with your body is situational
based on where you are on the field.
You're in the middle of the field,
sometimes you want to secure the catch with your body.
Anything in the open,
you know, you got comebacks,
you got sometimes...
Ocho, sometimes you got a high point in the ball, Ocho.
You can't always...
Ocho, you can't always jump up and do this.
You can't always jump up and do that, Ocho.
Sometimes you got to do this.
That's why I said
it's situational.
You don't want to get yourself killed now.
But here's the thing, though, Ocho.
When I say a guy's body catcher is that
he's most comfortable catching the ball in his
body. Everybody,
look, everybody from Jerry Rice
to Chris Carter to
Larry Fitzgerald, even the
guys that we think, Brandon Lowe, even the guys
that we think have great hands
have caught the ball in their body.
But they're comfortable
catching the ball out here.
Out here like this.
You know what's funny? When I think about it, I'm glad you said that.
You know, in the NFL, and I'm not sure
the casual fan would say this, sometimes the casual fan would say, oh man, that's an easy catch. But you know,
there are some people that are just natural pass catchers. Like it's a beauty. Like think about
point guards. There are a lot of point guards in the NBA, right? But something about seeing Kyrie
Irving play the point and dribble and have the skill. Right. He's honed that skill to where he's so much better and different than
everybody else.
When it comes to dribbling and coming off the drip,
you know what I'm trying to say?
You know what I'm getting at?
And there's some people like Larry Fitzgerald,
Deandre Hopkins.
Those are what I call natural.
God given pass catchers.
Yeah.
Just naturally.
God given pass catchers.
Right.
One more person.
I just left somebody out
that has crazy hands
I always tell guys
hell if you don't trust her
you don't trust your hands
you think I should
yeah
you're right
I mean that was yours
you
I think it's to catch the ball
whether it's your body
whether it's your body
whether it's your hands
and sometimes
some people are a little bit
more comfortable
in relying on
catching with the body
because it puts you in a more comfortable state
when you know you got bodies around you
trying to knock your head off.
The thing is when you catch with your hands,
catching with your hands,
you're really catching with your eyes
because your eyes have to track the ball.
So when you go up and do this,
you got to,
because I see a lot of people trying to catch the ball.
Bro, you got to throw your head back.
You got to see the ball.
How the hell you catching like this.
You looking at me.
You think I'm going to throw the ball
in your hands right there?
Bro, you got to take your head back.
And I don't see enough guys.
I mean, you know, it's easy
because you know you get, oh,
you know, you just cradle over
and catch it.
Nah, bro.
I mean, like I said,
like on a fourth down
or a big third down.
Yeah, I'm trying to, I'm trying to bite in that thing.
But early on, I'm trying to get up out of dodge.
Trying to be pretty with it, huh?
Hey, I'm trying to get up out of dodge.
I'm trying to hear and go.
Yeah.
But, yeah, he just, I mean, it's just, I mean, the thing, that touchdown.
But, Ocho, you know when you settle for field goals,
that gets you beat.
Yeah.
I mean, and you're dealing with a team like the Chargers,
and granted, they're already on their backup quarterback.
I want to deal them a death blow.
I want to deal them a death blow.
I want to like, oh, no, 21-0, it's over for y'all.
Go home.
Get ready for next year.
Yep, pass the sticks.
Yep, yep, y'all done.
But congratulations on the Broncos winning.
Hey, you know.
I see you, Russell Wilson.
God is good.
Bronco country.
That's what we do.
Bronco country.
Let's ride.
Don't do that.
No, we don't put that ride.
It's debate.
That's what he said.
Ain't nobody ride.
Russell Wilson said, Bronco country, let's ride.
That was last year
You ain't heard him mention it at all
You ain't heard him mention it at all
Nobody want to hear no let's ride
He need to bring it back
Jesus got the wheel
Check this
He about to drive that thing off in the ditch
Check this out
Last week Jamal Adams
Attacks a reporter's wife And then double downs Last, Jamal Adams attacks a reporter's wife and then double down.
Last week, Jamal Adams was beaten for what was essential,
a game-winning touchdown by Jake Ferguson and the Seattle loss to the Cowboys.
Jets beat reporter Connor Hughes, who covered the team since Adams was still with them,
tweeted, yikes, on the touchdown.
He never mentioned Jamal by name, but it's pretty clear the yikes
who it's for. Nothing more, nothing less.
That prompted Jamal Adams
to post a picture of his own
with yikes in response and go after
the huge appearance of his wife.
Adams doubled down
talking to the media.
It's always the athlete that cross the line
when he responds. But at the end of the day,
the disrespect is disrespect. However you want
to take it. So I responded. I
knew when he did, when I hit that
tweet, it wasn't
I wasn't in it to win it. At the end
of the day, I was going to get him to understand.
Leave me the hell alone. When
others go low, I go lower.
I have a question.
You know what I mean?
When they go low, I go to the basement.
If you join me in the basement, I go to hell. I have a question. That be the old show. You know what I mean? Yeah. When they go low, I go to the basement. The Lord. If you join me in the basement, I go to hell.
I have a question.
Yes.
The Beat Reporter.
Who is the Beat Reporter for?
For the Jets.
He covered the Jets when Jamal Adams was at the Jets.
Okay.
So why are you posting anything that has to do with the Seahawks in the first place?
And then putting Yikes behind it.
Why?
Why?
Why even go there?
Why go out your way to purposely antagonize
someone that doesn't even play for your organization
instead of focusing on our team?
I'm saying our team because I'm Zach Wilson, bitch.
Zach Wilson fan.
Why do that?
So, of course, purposely trying to antagonize him and say yikes because he
got beat on a touchdown yeah they won the game on right so he fired back in his own manner you can't
disrespect me and tell me how the disrespect should be taken so I can react how I want to react and
no you ask that question no I wouldn't do that I wouldn't do that so before you even say it so
somebody tweeting yikes that you got beat for
a touchdown is disrespectful.
Why are you even...
You already know what he's trying to do now. Come on
now. Don't play, Unc. Don't play.
I'm just saying. You know he's digging
at the man now. You know he's digging at him.
He's taking a dig at him.
It's low. It's low. Why are you doing
that as a Jets beat reporter?
You shouldn't be focused on nothing the Seahawks are doing
or somebody that used to play for your organization.
You don't need to.
But Jamal Adams getting beat for a touchdown,
why is that surprising when he's not known as a cover safety?
I don't know why it's surprising.
You know he's not a cover safety.
He's an in-the-box.
That's not a cover safety.
That's a strong safety.
Right, right.
Right, I know.
I'm just saying.
I look at, would you say Aaron Reid is a cover safety?
Oh, yeah.
Okay.
Oh, yeah.
And he can play in the box.
That's the crazy part about it.
Or I look at a Kevin Bayard.
He's a guy.
Or Justin Simmons.
Those are guys.
Or Minka Fitzpatrick. Those are guys
that I look at as cover safety.
I look at him as a box safety.
He's tremendous against the run.
He's going to blitz. You see him on a blitz
to knock the opposing quarterback.
I don't want him
in coverage. I don't want him no more
if I don't want him more than 10 yards
from the line of scrimmage. I don't want him
down the field. That's not what he's good at. I don't want him on any tight end from the line of scrimmage. I don't want him down the field. That's not what he's good at.
I don't want him on any tight end, none, because that's not his expertise.
That's like me.
That's like me.
You asking me to hold up against a Michael Strahan or a Bruce Smith
or Reggie White.
And then when I get beat, I'm like, yeah, what you expect to happen?
You expect me?
Yes!
Yeah, yeah.
I mean, but, well, again, why are you even going? to happen. You expect me. Yes! Yeah. Again,
why are you even going out your way?
Why are you even going out your way?
Because you know what you're doing.
You know what you're doing.
Do I condone
the disrespect of someone's
person?
No, I don't. But you can't tell someone how to react when you start first when you started first purposely and guess what i can't tell someone
how to react guess what the 49ers did on social media when he got beat by debo yikes yeah because
he put it out there he started of. Of course he won't use it.
So now it's a running joke.
Of course.
You opened Pandora's box.
Ocho.
To this day, they say Shannon couldn't block.
Just imagine, as many times as somebody says Shannon couldn't block,
if I went around and saw people's wives or girlfriends or significant others.
Ocho.
I hear what you're saying.
If you can't take it, don't dish it.
You know what you was doing
as a beat reporter
putting yikes behind some player
that isn't even with your organization anymore.
You taking a dig at him using yikes.
This all Jamal Adams had to say.
Those that can, do.
Those that can't, write or teach about it.
Why are you telling him how to respond to the disrespect?
You can't do that.
That's how you come back.
Because now, they're like, oh, you salty.
Now, for the rest of, guess what?
Every time he get beat, guess what for the rest of his life?
So he going gonna go around
insulting the 49ers social
media or the 49ers? So you know what?
You open it up. You know what you open up, Ocho.
Yeah, that's the way the world works.
That's the way the world works. But I'm just saying
in this world,
in this world we live in,
you can't disrespect someone
and then tell them how to react
to the disrespect.
True.
You can't.
True.
Which is why I don't say anything bad about anybody in general.
I know, and that's a problem.
But anyway, we'll get to that.
It's not a problem.
It's not a problem.
I'm here to love.
God, I talked to God the other day.
He said, boy, you're on earth and this is your purpose.
Your purpose is to love, to critique at times, but to love.
That's your main goal.
Well, you need to be a missionary.
But anyway, I will say this.
Here's a simple rule.
You got to be careful
of letting people know what makes you tick.
Because once you let a person know what makes you tick,
they can wind your ass up and make you
tick when they want you to. Be careful,
Ocho. Now they know
what makes Jamal Adams tick.
I'm going to wind his ass up.
I don't think he was really ticked.
The man was the man's wife, Ocho.
You don't think the man was ticked.
No, he was just firing back.
You know how it is firing back.
Tell me why people fire back.
Huh?
I mean, you heard exactly what I said.
Explain to the people at home.
Explain to the people at home why those people fire back.
The people at home fire back to get their lick back.
It's okay.
It's okay.
So you got jokes?
Hold on, hold on, hold on.
Why you get your lick back?
You got jokes?
Oh, you want to be funny?
Why you get your lick back?
Hold on.
Because you want to be funny.
So about yikes?
Here, let me be funny too.
Yikes right back.
Hold on.
If you said he wasn't ticked, why he need to get a lick back?
Because, I mean, come on.
You really think.
No, no, no, no.
Let me ask you a question.
Don't ask him.
Do you really think he was upset?
Answer that question.
He really was upset.
Think about it.
Yes.
Do you really think he was upset?
He said, at the end of the day, I was to get him to understand.
Leave me the hell
alone when others go low i go lower so he said do you think he was really upset do you really think
it bothered him that much it doesn't matter what i think listen did you hear what he said did you
hear what he said the first time you know i don't like you and didn't like you when i was with the
jets so why even go out your way to do what you did he He did it for a reason. So clearly he was ticked
because he didn't like it when he was with the Jets.
No, he wasn't ticked.
He just, oh, you want to,
you know I don't like you, but you want to go out your way
to make a post
about me getting beat, so I'm going
to fire back. What's wrong with that? I'm confused.
I'm confused.
So he has to be upset because
he fired back
So if you say something about me
And I say something about you
Because you said something back
That mean I'm upset
I'm not upset
I'm just fired back
I'm only going to respond
If it bothers me
That ain't high work
That's a damn lie
Because every time I talk shit to somebody
I'm not responding
Because I'm upset
Oh you talking shit Well I'm going to talk shit back to you I'm not responding because I'm upset. I'm... Oh, you talking shit?
Well, I'm going to talk shit back to you.
I don't got to be upset about it.
See what you did?
Had they not said anything,
would you have responded?
And I'd have been going about my way.
Okay.
I'd have been going about my way.
And since you went out your way
to say something,
I'm going to say something back.
Doesn't mean I'm upset.
Ocho, do you understand?
I don't know if you know this,
but everybody...
There are a lot of people that got podcasts
and they only have podcasts,
they only do numbers if they talk about
me and Stephen A.
I don't respond.
I don't care. I don't
care about you one way or another
to lend my audience
to hear me go back and forth with you.
I understand. That's what you want.
I just want to know
why can't you make content
without talking about me?
Without talking about Stephen A.
Wait a minute.
Wait a minute.
I need a little better context now.
Who we talk about you?
I don't give...
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
I don't mention names on my show.
Hey, hold on, hold on.
If you want to talk about...
If you want to tweet about him,
I don't mention.
Nah, man.
Not on this one. Not on this one.
Ain't nobody finna play with us like that.
No, they're not playing with you.
They're playing with me.
We a team.
I'm good.
Ocho, I'm good.
Because we a package deal.
I'm good, Ocho.
Hey.
See, I tell you, this is how I handle it.
I don't play that shit, man.
I don't fuck somebody up about you, man.
No, we don't need to do that.
Ocho, you understand?
Ocho, Ocho.
Who playing with us?
Ocho, Ocho. We playing with us? Ocho,
we messing them up by having 35,000 watching live. We messing
them up that we got 430
in two months. That's what's
messing them up. That's what's bothering them.
That's what's eating Gilbert's grapes.
Who is Gilbert?
It's a long story. I'll explain it to you
one day. Hey, but Unc,
you can't be letting people
just say anything about us, man.
You need to let me know, man.
Ocho.
Ocho.
Man, Unc, I'm with the shit, bro.
You heard me?
You heard my grandma?
Hey, Unc, I'm beating the ass
about you, Unc.
Boy, I don't play that shit, right?
We don't need to.
Ocho, let me tell you something.
Shit.
My grandmother told me
when I was a little boy,
she said, boy, never chase a lie.
Yeah.
I don't care.
You sure you good?
I'm great.
Okay.
Good.
Let me, listen.
Let me know.
Ocho.
Let me know.
I've been having, see.
I ain't even know.
I've been having.
You shouldn't have told me that
because I want to know who said something't have told me that cuz I want
to know who said something no no who says somebody told Joe it's not
important but I'm just saying the same thing they even the fact they even know
Joe had a desk but that's how they get that's how they get clicks they gotta
mention me they can't produce to get a click. They're not.
They can't produce content like me. You and I,
we don't discuss anybody else in this
business. You do what you do.
I'm happy for anybody
that has a podcast that's on television
and you're producing content.
I don't got to take no shot at nobody.
I don't got to tell you what this
person feels that way or that person because I don't care what y'all think because y'all don't got to take no shot at nobody. I don't got to tell you what this person feels that way or that person
because I don't care what y'all think
because y'all don't cut no checks.
Right, right.
Okay.
Y'all don't stop me from doing
what I need to do
in order to thrive.
Not live, thrive.
Right.
It's just hard for me to understand.
It's hard because you're a good dude, man.
You're a good dude outside of them expensive-ass dogs.
And people talk about you.
That shit don't sit right with me.
But here's the thing, though, Ocho.
You have to understand.
Think about I'm one of the few guys, and there are a lot, especially, you know,
I wasn't classically trained to be a journalist okay i was
at cbs for a decade great opportunity i appreciate tony bettini i appreciate sean mcmahon for giving
me the opportunity but i was kind of miscast because i don't need to be at a desk well i don't
work good in soundbites i need have i need time to expand upon why I'm saying what I said.
So the format that I got when I got in 2016
when I went to Undisputed was perfect for me.
It also got an opportunity for people to see my personality,
the sense of humor, the relatability, the charm.
They got an opportunity to see that.
I'm not afraid to make fun of myself.
I'm cool. I'm not afraid to make fun of myself. I'm cool.
I'm cool being Shannon Sharp.
I don't need to be anybody else other than myself.
Right.
And so all of a sudden, people like, man, they gave me my followers, my fans.
They gave, I didn't, I never called myself up.
They gave me that.
Now, everybody that I meet, that's how they refer to me
right nba players nfl players i'm talking about people in the street even women can i call you
yeah go ahead yeah yeah it doesn't bother i'm happy but it bothers them because of the level of success
that I've enjoyed,
especially over the last couple of years.
No, they said that.
They said in American Gangster.
They said that in the movie American Gangster.
I'll never forget that line.
Success creates enemies.
Yes.
But I just told me,
I told this to you before.
You can't worry about
nobody else's plate.
You got to always
keep your ass on your own plate
and not what nobody else is doing.
I've never taken a shot
publicly,
privately,
at anybody.
You going to tell me who?
No.
I just want to start some shit.
Nah, I know.
But that's what they want.
But not on my watch. What we got? What we got? What we got? Here we go. Nah, I know. But that's what they want. But not on my watch.
What we got?
What we got?
What we got?
Here we go.
I'm feeling good.
We're getting a ton
of Falcon-centric chats.
Dion,
while we're on topic
of play calling,
what would the Falcons
be free of
Arthur Smith
and Desmond Ritter?
Man, Desmond Ritter
is just the turnovers, man.
It's just hard
to overcome that.
And he had a decent day. I think he threw for 347 yards. Yeah, yeah. But just the turnovers man it's just hard to overcome that and he had a decent day
I think he threw for 347 yards
yeah yeah but just the turnovers
that guy
he good boy
oh B. John Robinson
I like the other kid from USC
yeah what's the
Drake London
yeah they got Kyle Pitts
I mean they got
man they need that's what they need they need to release Kyle Pitts. I mean, they got... Man, they need...
That's what they need.
They need to release Kyle Pitts
to somebody that's going to use him
the right way.
That's what they need to do.
And the thing is,
Arthur Smith really has
a really tight end-centric offense.
The tight ends normally do
tremendous work.
Look at what they had
when they was in Tennessee.
Remember when he was in Tennessee?
That two tight ends set
with Derrick Henry?
Yeah.
But they not using the number four draft pick Tennessee. Remember when he was in Tennessee? That two tight end set with Derrick Henry? Yeah, but
they not using the number
four draft pick the right way.
Oh, yeah. Kyle Pitts is the real deal,
man. Yeah. Jamal Grant
asked, the Falcons,
the Atlanta Falcons, if they coach
away from being contenders, I smell
Eric B. Enemy on the way.
Honestly,
I wish
EBU had stayed in the Chiefs.
Because they're about to clean houses.
They're about to clean houses.
So, wait.
Eric B. Enemy got to go and he just got there?
Yeah, he going.
Wait.
You have to, Ocho, when it's like when you buy a house.
Now, you can keep the furniture if you want to,
but more times than not, what you going to do with it?
You tell them, take that furniture with you.
Yeah, but there ain't another play caller that is of the caliber
that the commanders can bring in that is that of Eric Bien-Ami.
So do you really want to get him?
Yeah, because when they remove Ron Rivera,
the new coach is going to want to bring his guy in.
His guy? Oh, shit. Or he's
probably, he's probably, if he
gets the head coaching job, he's probably
because Josh Harris is the owner,
he's probably going to say, are you going to call the plays?
And so, the
new owner is going to want somebody that's going to call the plays
or especially,
are they going to look in the market to get a quarterback?
I mean, what direction are they going to go in?
Quarterback?
Sam Howell is playing good football.
You sure you want to?
I thought he was the answer.
What's the question?
The Commander fan said Sam Howell was the answer.
I heard him say that.
Maybe me and you logged into different chats.
maybe me and you me and you logged into different chats
Mr. King Dre asked
will we ever see a Michael Vick experience
in Atlanta again? I doubt it
hell nah
Michael Vick is a one off
I mean
y'all about being out happy to be in Atlanta at the time that Michael Vick was with,
and think about it.
It's called the Michael Vick experience.
There's never been anything like it.
For a reason.
There's never been anything like it.
And we got guys that got great legs.
I mean, I think Lamar Jackson, I think Justin Fields,
I think we got guys that, but they ain't like Michael Vick.
It was different.
On that turf?
Yeah.
Lamar Jackson is dynamic.
He's great at what he does.
But that Michael Vick motherfucking experience,
you had to be around.
You had to be around. You had to be around to understand
the difference between that
and what we're seeing in today's game.
Bam.
That shit was different.
And I can't even put it,
I can't even explain,
I can't even put into words, that is
something you just had to been around
to experience. And YouTube,
YouTube ain't gonna work.
That ain't gonna work. Something,
you had to experience it for yourself.
Yeah. You know, like,
when people, when I try to, what my thing
is, when I try to explain
freak Nick. Right.
Oh, 94?
You know what, I gotta get up. Hold on. Right. Oh, 94? Man, you know what?
I got to get up.
Hold on.
Let me repent.
Hold on.
Man.
Boy, Freaknik 94?
Man, look here.
Man.
94, 93, 94, 95.
Man, why you think I moved to Atlanta?
Hey, listen.
I had to stand up.
Man.
Me and my brother. Boy, I got some story to stand up. Man, me and my brother...
Boy, I got some stories
about Freak Neek, boy.
You ain't got no stories
like I got some stories.
I got some stories.
I got some stories.
Boy, no,
I got my stories
better than yours, boy.
Hey, look here.
I ain't talking about no...
Hey, I ain't talking
about no skeletons.
I'm talking about a graveyard.
I got a graveyard
I can dig on.
Man, listen.
Boy, would you...
I'm the pallbearer.
What you talking about?
Hey, Ocho.
Ocho, man, look here. You don't want to talk about... You don't want to talk about no Freak Neek stories, man. No, I'm the pallbearer. What you talking about? Hey, Ocho. Ocho, man, look here.
You don't want to talk about no freaknik stories, man.
No, I don't.
I don't want to talk about no freaknik stories.
As a matter of fact, what is freaknik?
If that where they have a picnic at,
that a big old freaknik?
Yeah, it's a picnic, all right.
Table cloths everywhere.
Man.
Boy, them some days, boy.
I just said there was a lot of Bibles out there
for that weekend.
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Austin Rivers says
we're still relying on LeBron
James to be the face of the league. Rivers
added, there are things that LeBron,
Michael, Jordan, and Kobe could do
that, just from an odd
standpoint, that we don't have.
You believe LeBron is still,
do you still believe LeBron is the face of the league?
If LeBron is not the face of the league,
who else would be up?
Who would be runner up?
I think they wanted Zion Williamson to be the next face of the league,
but that didn't pan out the way it should be.
And I think Zion,
if you see this,
you need to get with me.
I can help you with some of the things that you're struggling
with. No, you can't.
Back to the topic. You're the problem.
Because he's eating fast food.
That's his problem. You can't
help him. What do you mean I can't
help him? How do you know what you're going to tell him to do?
I trained like
a madman, man, to get this body
looking the way it looks right now. What are you talking about,
B? Ocho, Ocho,
you are a thin-framed man.
This man,
he has to be careful.
He can't eat that.
He cannot.
Did you just say,
man, I'm big-boned.
What you talking about I'm thin-framed, man?
I'm 220 right now.
What you talking about?
I tried to tell people this,
and they say,
Shannon, you hating on him.
How you know you not around?
You just talk about a guy that was in peak physical condition.
Right.
When I played, I'm in fairly good condition at 55 years of age.
So I can tell you, I can speak, I know what I see.
And I'm telling you, Zion does not take, he loves the game, but it's the things that you do prior to the game
right his conditioning his eating habits that's that's there's a way to overcome you know what
that's another topic i'm not even gonna do that because we'll be all day he can't he can't overcome a bad diet. He can't. He can't.
Okay.
It's been reported that the team
asked him,
your diet, your nutrition.
Can't you see?
What?
His stomach and his ass
going in two different directions.
One going that way
and the other going that way.
Now you guess which one is which.
Man, stop playing Ocho. You see that way and the other going that way. Now you guess which one is which. Man, stop playing, Ocho.
You see that, man.
And the problem is
is that he still has success.
But just imagine how great he could be
if he got himself in shape.
The first thing he should have done,
the moment he declared for the NBA draft,
he should have picked up the phone
and called Charles Barkley.
Chuck.
Because he's a more athletic Charles Barkley. And all he had to should have picked up the phone and called Charles Barkley. Chuck. Because he's a more athletic Charles Barkley.
And all he had to do
was pick up the phone
and say, Chuck, how you, Charles.
How you want to call?
You want to address him as Charles,
Chuck, Mr. Barkley?
Right.
Remember what I need to do.
Because I want to have a long,
prosperous, healthy career.
What do I need to do?
How did you do it?
Right.
That should have been
the first call he made.
Right.
But I'm not wrong
if I'm mistaken
that Zion Williamson
was in place to be
the next face of the NBA
once LeBron...
Okay, I just want to make sure
I didn't just pull that out
the goddamn air.
I think Steph, you know,
you got Steph Curry,
you got Giannis.
But it's kind of hard
because Giannis is not an American boy.
It's hard for someone to be
the face of American sport
even though it's a global sport.
Right, right.
But LeBron
is still the face
of the NBA. He is.
You know, I would I might have been at
the ITF,
the end-season tournament game.
Oh, you went to the game?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
You sat courtside?
Yeah, I did, I did, I did.
Hey, how much some
tickets was in Vegas?
You know,
it ain't what you know
is who you know.
I got you know.
Oh, you got the hookup, huh?
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, okay. You see, you see AD what you know and who you know. I got you know. Oh, you got the hook up, huh? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, okay.
You see, AD do a 40-20.
LeBron had a ho-hum 24, 11-4.
Austin Reed, Kobe of the Ozarks.
Yeah, can we get that Anthony Davis every night?
If you get that Anthony Davis every night, who beat the Lakers?
Man, you get that Anthony Davis every night.
That's Will Chamberlain.
If you get that Anthony Davis every night, who's Will Chamberlain. If you get that Anthony Davis
every night, who beat the Lakers?
That Anthony Davis? Nobody.
Not if you get that Anthony Davis.
Thank you.
I don't even want... Listen.
I don't want that Anthony.
I got realistic expectations.
He was angry. I don't know who did something
to him before the game. He just played angry.
I'm like, damn, what you mad at?
He didn't let anybody off the hook.
He didn't let anybody.
Because any time a little man got on him,
they gave it to him, they started hard.
Krispy Kreme with that light on.
That hot light on.
Yeah.
That's when he started Krispy Kreme.
Every time they got a mismatch, Krispy Kreme. Every time they got a
mismatch, Krispy Kreme,
LeBron give it down to him,
D-Lo give it down to him,
Austin Reeves give it down to him, because we already
know what Krispy Kreme is. They're saying,
you ain't going to eat just one. You eat a whole dozen
of them. And they couldn't hot
with that light on?
Man, I run
up a part.
I know, I could eat,
I probably eat
about six of them right now.
I ain't have no Krispy Kreme.
I probably have Krispy Kreme
probably about, oh my God,
probably about seven, eight years.
Krispy Kreme is a part
of my nutritional diet.
So I can get a meal plan
over to you if you want to.
You can incorporate it
in what you're doing right now
as somewhat of a cheat meal
on Fridays and Saturdays.
Hot?
I'm talking about them hot.
I'm talking about hot.
I eat six of them right now.
Yeah, I get my Krispy Kreme
on 1 63rd.
We got Krispy Kreme
right there on 1 63rd.
They ain't got,
unfortunately,
they ain't got one close
in Beverly Hills.
So, they ain't going to be hot
by the time they get to me.
Why are you even,
why are you even in Beverly Hills in the first place?
You in L.A., man.
Go right there on Crenshaw, right on the corner.
It's across from, I don't know, the Louisiana Fried Chicken.
Krispy Kreme right there across the street.
Aaron Gordon said, I went on a date with a girl one time.
And the last thing she had on her phone was Aaron Gordon's net worth.
Yeah, that's what they do.
I've been preaching that for years.
Yeah,
that's why I tell you. What you buying all that
shit for? Who are you trying
to impress? Why you driving that?
Why your watch
cost $300,000?
Why you buy a $200,000
chain? Why you buy a $225,000 diamond?
Let me finish talking.
Okay, go ahead.
Go ahead, finish.
The women you trying to impress
and already Google
how much you making.
You ain't got to do nothing else.
You already got it.
Okay.
You already got it.
And why buy her what?
A $225,000 diamond.
Who you trying
to impress?
You said why?
Who are you trying to
impress? Why you
buy her that $250,000, $300,000
car? Who are you trying to
impress?
Because I got it.
What the fuck?
So when other guys that got it and they do it, who you trying to impress? But because you got it, you get to got it. What the fuck? So when other guys, they got it and they do it,
who you trying to impress?
But because you got it, you get to do it.
Make it make sense, man.
I'm marrying mine.
They just trying to fuck them.
It doesn't matter.
It does not matter.
No, it does matter.
Why are you trying to impress if you matter?
Stay context.
What's context?
Context matters.
This one is for life.
That's for fun.
There's a difference.
That's why they doing the Google.
Which means you shouldn't even do that
because you got her for life.
Why you need to impress her?
Because she's a representation of me
everywhere she fucking go.
That's why.
So in other words,
you talking about both sides of your neck.
Because you got it,
you can spend it. But somebody else got it, you can spend it.
But somebody else got it, they can't spend it.
No, no, not for them.
Not for them.
Listen, that's an investment.
I'm getting a return on that.
What they getting?
The return you're getting on that is nothing.
You can get that for free.
So you don't believe them men can marry that woman if they wanted to?
You trying to be funny? No. You trying to be funny no you trying to be funny no you think he finna marry the motherfucking woman
That's Google his goddamn net worth. I'm trying to be funny. You're about a game. Go don't do that
You know how the game goes on do that hostile you gotta play you you got listen you better play the game, right?
You gonna get burned don't you do that.
But all I'm saying is,
you get because you got the money.
You feel this is an investment.
You feel you get to spend as much as you want,
but nobody else can.
I ain't spend no money.
You did.
No, I didn't.
You bought that ring.
But that's fine.
You said $225,000.
And if it's a lie, you told it.
Now, we saw that card that she got. You bought that. You said $225,000. And if it's a lie, you told it. Now, we saw that car that she got.
You bought
that. You saw my car?
I'm not talking about yours.
Whatever you drive, you bought
that. The money that purchased
that car came out of your account.
That money for that ring came out of your account.
But hold on. The car I drive,
she purchased that. You see how they go?
You see how they go? You see how they go?
You see how they go?
I'm talking about you spending.
I'm talking about you.
I am...
I'm talking about you.
Listen, I'm matching the energy
that is given to me.
See, on the other hand,
the person that's
googling your network,
you ain't getting...
Let me see your ring.
How much your ring cost?
Let me see your life.
Turn to the camera. How much that ring cost? Let me see your ring. Turn to the camera.
How much that cost?
Shit, it's about $40.
Okay.
So where's your $225,000 diamond ring?
I don't like no shit like that.
Oh, now you don't like it.
I don't like no shit like that.
Now you don't like it.
Now you don't like it.
Hold on, hold on.
Yo, yo, yo.
You done followed me all your life
and you know how I am about financial literacy
and spending goddamn money. Don't you do that. You done followed me all your life, and you know how I am about financial literacy and spending goddamn money.
Don't you do that.
You just spent half a million dollars,
and now you going to talk to me about financial literacy.
You know why I was able to spend half a million?
Because I didn't spend no fucking money when I was playing.
I was cheap as hell, and I still am.
It doesn't matter.
It matters because I'm giving you context on why I did.
Oh, Joe.
I'm giving you context, and you're not listening.
You letting it go over your head.
No, you're trying to talk over my head.
No, it ain't going over my head.
Because what you're trying to do is saying,
if you're doing financial literacy,
that means you do that all the time.
I do do it all the time.
I've been doing it for the past 30 years.
You spent $500,000.
Okay.
For the person that's going to be here
for the rest of my life
So you're going to go spend five
Bill Gates worth
115 billion
He dropped no $225 when his wife ring
He ain't buy her no half a million dollar car
So now talk to me
How you know
You don't know them people
You don't know them people
You don't know Bill
You don't know them people. You don't know them people. You don't know Bill. You don't know Bill.
Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
You don't know Bill.
You're quite hostile.
Your anagrams are starting to show.
I'm not hostile.
You're quite hostile.
I'm just telling you.
See, you know what happened?
This is why I need to get you a woman.
Because if you had your woman in your life.
Listen, no.
Stay with me now.
If you had your woman in your life, you'll understand why it was okay spending that money.
That's the problem.
That's the problem. See, you want to spend ten thousand dollars on the goddamn dog you're gonna spend some more
goddamn crazy 300 000 some goddamn lego tickets but you want to spend goddamn private jet flying
50 000 for an hour but you want to talk about i can't spend no goddamn 500 000 on my woman. Enjoy, because that, you enjoy your woman, right?
No, no, no, no.
Private plane,
you don't need to do.
You can get your ass
on Spirit Airline
just like I can.
Ocho, Ocho,
I'm going to enjoy my life.
You don't even have to.
You don't even have to
pay $300,000
for legacy tickets
because you can watch the game
at the comfort of your home
like I do.
Okay, that's what you choose to do. You see? No, no, no, no, like I do. Okay, that's what you choose to do.
You see? No, no, no, no, no, no, no.
That's what you choose to do.
You're not getting any return on that
investment that you're doing.
I'm getting a return on
what I'm investing in. I'm getting a return.
My happiness. What? Being able
to sit courtside.
Watching people sit... No.
How do you determine my happiness? No. How do you get to determine my happiness? No.
How do you get to determine what makes me happy?
Because you can get on the airline with me.
Me and you can fly sphere together.
We can get a
goddamn ticket. I guarantee
you'd be happy with me when we get
we'd be gone. How do you get to determine
what makes me happy?
Because I know it makes you happy.
I know it makes you happy because we cut cut from the same cloth oh joe we cut from the same and you know what and you won't understand it right you won't understand it because you you're a bit
stubborn i love you though you're a bit stubborn that's why until i get you a woman in your life
to complete everything that you're doing you will never understand where I'm coming from.
But again,
let's get back to the topic.
Guess what I have right now.
Guess what I have right now.
A woman?
Peace.
Anyway, Jada Pinkett Smith.
Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
So you're saying,
so you're saying
if you have a woman,
you're not going to have peace?
I'm not saying anything.
I'm saying I'm in peace right now.
That's what you just said.
That's what you were alluding to
just now.
I have peace.
Who would just say I don't have
a woman?
Well, why you ain't tell me? Why you keeping shit from me
if you got a woman?
Do you have somebody? Let me know if you have somebody
so I can stop searching.
Jada Pickett Smith says, I will never
leave Will Smith.
Save my marriage.
Ocho. Does she
know they're not married
I don't understand
What's wrong with her
They have cohabitation
They live together
They have cohabitation
They live together
I like that
I never heard that word before
I know
Cohab
Say it again
There's an agreement
That you can enter to
It's called a cohabitation agreement
Cohabitation
I like that
I like that
Ocho
So she did this to the Daily Mail.
When you gave this interview to the Daily Mail,
I mean, basically,
everybody was saying, nah, we good.
We're not here to...
Think about what she said.
Right.
The slap saved a marriage,
but it ruined your husband's career.
Right.
I'm confused because
I don't follow
the gossip much.
I understand, I know the slap the gossip much. I understand.
I know the slap.
It was everywhere, obviously.
But if my mistake is she said we weren't even married at the time.
So I'm not sure why he got up in that.
They were married, but they weren't living together.
They hadn't been together since 2016.
I'm not even sure why he even defended me.
And she said it was a bad thing to do.
So now.
She talking about both sides of her neck.
Yeah, I don't know.
Maybe it's just on good terms.
Maybe whatever dynamic they have going on,
maybe it works for them.
And I'm not really one to talk
because I don't know their situation.
I don't...
I'm not Wendy Williams,
so it's hard for me to even discuss
their marital terms. But I like that
word. Say it again. What's that word again? Cohabitation.
Let me write that shit down. Hold on. Ocho, can I ask you a question, Ocho?
Yes, sir. If that's the approach that you want,
y'all want, you want to be able to see who you want to in the marriage, he wants to be able to
see he, why you get married? Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Hey, now you know them.
The wealthy live a different lifestyle
that has nothing to do
with the societal norms
and traditional values
that we were raised on.
You know that.
So why use the term marriage?
They complete...
Marriage is a...
Marriage is a societal normal term.
Right.
Marriage in itself
is when you do it,
you do what works for you.
I don't think that's
the definition of marriage,
but okay.
Listen,
you want it to work or don't you?
You want it to work or don't you?
So marriage in itself
and the meaning behind it,
everybody can't do it that way
or the way it's supposed to be
structurally done.
So, you do what works
for you and your partner.
Me personally,
I think the more she talks,
the worse she looks.
Well, she always talks.
She always talks though.
And I think she always will
because she always has been
in the spotlight
and she has always put us
in their private business,
which is why we're talking about it now.
Because if she didn't say anything,
we wouldn't even know what was going on.
No.
I mean, but that's the thing.
She does it for a reason.
I think I like...
She's trying to sell a book.
But I can't...
I mean, but you're willing to sell your family for a book?
Oh, she wrote a book.
Wrote another one.
Okay.
That's a good thing, no?
Yeah.
Are you going to read it? No. Please. one. Okay. That's a good thing. No? Yeah? Are you going to read it?
No. Please.
No? Okay.
Charleston White was attacked on stage after arguing with the audience member. You
know who Charleston White is? He was on stage.
He funny. He funny, man. He funny. And the funny thing about it, I've seen other
interviews with him. He's a very smart intellectual guy too.
He's a very smart intellectual guy.
I've seen some of the stuff he's done and some of the things he said.
And he knows his shit.
And I think he purposely dumbs it down on purpose.
And I saw the guy tell him, start talking right.
And, you know, guy bum-rusted the stage.
It's just, Charles White be talking cash shit, boy.
He be talking cash shit to and about everybody.
He's a fun guy.
He's an entertaining guy.
I see him up and down the timeline at times.
And he tells it like it is.
He tells it like it is.
Some people might not like it.
He's one that doesn't cut any corners.
And I mean, that's pretty much it.
Yeah.
I mean.
What would you do in that situation?
If you was a comedian, you was on stage and somebody rushed the stage?
Beat his ass.
Oh, you can't.
I'm paid to be up here.
Nah, you ain't going to rush no stage on me. They paid to be up here nah you ain't gonna
rush no stage on me
they paid to see you you can't beat up the people
that paid to come see you
he paid to listen to me
and sit his ass in that seat
he paid to come up on that stage or he should
go to open mic
or go to the promoter
and ask to get on the list
cause you come up there,
I'm not going to let what happened to Chris Rock happen to me.
Oh, yeah, that's right.
Somebody did rush the stage.
That's right.
No, ain't no rushing the stage.
Will Smith's about to see, yes.
Okay, okay, okay, okay, okay.
Yeah.
No, so no, no, no.
But see, my thing is, as a matter of fact,
I remember going to a,
I went to a comedy show.
This was probably in 2000
and Martin Lawrence.
And you know, I was dating.
Oh, put the spotlight on me.
Roast me.
I, bro,
took it.
You ain't saying nothing back?
No.
Look, I'm at a comedy show.
I'm at a comedy show.
I'm cool with that.
If I go to the comedy show, I'm telling her, look, they probably gonna
recognize who I am.
Be dressed appropriate.
Because, hey, I ain't fighting nobody. I am. Be dressed appropriate. Yes. Because, hey,
I ain't fighting nobody.
I ain't rushing no stage.
Hey,
I ain't doing none of that.
I'm going to sit there.
I'm going to laugh.
I'm going to be like,
yeah, that is some bullshit you got.
That is some bull job you got on.
So I'm going to get up here.
Hey, if we get in the car,
I'm like, he tore you up
or she tore you up tonight.
I told you not to wear that.
I mean, that's what you got to do.
You just got to roll with it, Ocho.
Because the longer you fight it, the longer they're going to stay on you.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So just, hey, just roll with it.
Oh, that's funny, man.
Oh, man.
Check this out, Ocho.
We got a ton of really good fan questions and any questions that we don't get to tonight
because we only have two games tomorrow.
We'll definitely get to them tomorrow.
Check this out, Ocho. Someone asked,
do you think anybody from the NFL
NBA will ever reach the amount of money
that Shohei Ohtani,
Shohei Ohtani, which
in America means show me the money,
just got from the Dodgers in a contract
called that contract, 10 years,
700 million.
Shit, no. Definitely happened in the NFL and he gonna get every dime
of that oh yeah that's that's Gary that's guaranteed baby hey oh I know some I'm glad
you just said that because I heard uh when I was watching it I saw it happen what did when they
deferred they say some of the money
is going to be deferred.
Yes.
That means he's going to be
75 years old
getting $10, $15 million a year.
Okay.
Okay.
I just want to make sure.
But he's going to get every dime.
Yeah.
That's crazy.
Marks Main asks,
as a former player,
is it particularly difficult
to watch receivers
make obvious and critical mistakes,
drop passes, poor routes, line up wrong? Yes. Yes, it is. It is hard. a former player, is it particularly difficult to watch receivers make obvious and critical mistakes, draw, pass, support,
line up wrong? Yes.
Yes, it is. It is hard.
It is very hard. It is very hard.
Because let me tell you why.
Because I believe in order for you to
enjoy a level of success as a
team, I'm not talking
individually, I'm talking about as a team.
Right. You can't
have those kinds of mistakes. Yeah. Well, I understand it because I was one of as a team. Right. You can't have those kinds of mistakes.
Yeah.
Well, I understand it because I was one of those that made those mistakes.
You know, you want to minimize them as much as possible.
So for me, I'm able to empathize with those that do make them
because I was once that same player at one point in time.
So it's hard for me to harp on someone
that's making those mistakes
when I did the same shit myself.
To answer your question.
It's not hard for me
because I get better.
And as my coach used to say,
son, get good or get gone.
You can get better or you can get gone.
That's as simple as that, Ocho.
You can't get any simpler than that.
Yeah.
There has to be a level of expectation.
If you don't expect,
if you don't demand greatness of yourself.
Right.
What are we doing here?
Right.
What are we doing?
And I'll never ask any more than I'm willing to give.
That's what my grandparents say.
Boy, you never ask more from a man than you're willing to give yourself.
So if you're going to ask a man to eat right, you damn sure better be eating right.
If you ask a person to train and stay the extra hour, you better be willing to go the extra hour.
Never ask more than you're willing to give. Therein lies why I've had a level of success
and my team had no problem listening to what I had to offer or what I had to say,
because they knew I wasn't telling them anything that Shannon Sharp was not doing
himself. But I demanded greatness. I expected it. You could not be on the field with me
and make those same mistakes.
No way, no how.
And I was very fortunate
that I had coaches
that believed in me
and trusted me
and I was like,
no, he can't play.
He's not ready to play.
That's my job.
Right.
As the elder statesman.
When you expect mediocrity,
you'll get that.
But when you expect and demand greatness, you'll get that also.
And if they can't give you that, it's time to move on.
And I know everybody's not the same.
I just want your best.
And I can't have you making the same mistakes over and over.
I can't have you running the same lazy ass route over and over.
I can't have you lining up offside over and over.
I can't keep having you fumbling the ball,
running the wrong route.
Because who does that help?
How do we get better?
How do we get to,
how do we get to win a division title?
How do we get to win a Superbowl with you doing this?
I just have a level of expectation.
And that's why I'm not a coach. that's why I'm not a coach.
That's why I'm not a coach.
Top sports debate as,
as a pro,
as a pro sports capper,
I get praised when players ball out by the jersey,
et cetera,
but I called them out when they don't.
If you played in this age sports betting,
how would you handle social media better as losing money off your plate?
Well,
uh, are you sending me
anything when you win the money? Oh, that's
a good one. Kevin Durant just said that.
He said he does. He buys a jersey.
He says that when guys
win him money, he'll buy their jersey.
Honestly, guys,
there was sports better, but there was no social media
when I played. Hey, look,
bro, I'm trying to win a game. I'm trying
to win that game. I promise you, I want to win that game. More do you want to win that 500, that 1, look, bro, I'm trying to win a game. I'm trying to win that game. I promise you,
I want to win that game. More do you want
to win that $500,000, that $1,000, or that
$20,000? I promise you.
I promise you. And I'll stay up
later at night,
have more restless nights
because I dropped a pass or
I made a mistake that somehow
cost us a victory
or didn't go the way I wanted to go.
Longer than you worry about that money.
That hurt.
Yeah.
And, you know, I tell people that are that are gamblers, you know, you're going to win and you lose.
And if you're not if you're not willing to lose, you shouldn't be gambling because you ain't going to win them all.
No, you can't.
I mean, you're not supposed to gamble any more than you can afford to lose anyway.
You shouldn't be upset when you do lose.
That's the problem.
Of course.
Anthony
Jamerson said, ask who's your top
five rappers of all time.
Who's your top five rappers? Oh, shit.
Damn.
Man, he done put me on the spot man
Lil Wayne
Jay-Z
Uh
Uh uh uh man that's that's that's hard it's tough it's tough it's hard because i go back a
little further than you and i got like the old school rappers like kr where krs1 um
molly maul i mean big daddy cane big daddy but here's the thing a lot of the great rappers Molly Moll I mean Big Daddy Kane
Big Daddy Kane
but here's the thing
a lot of the great rappers
they didn't last long
right
I mean you look at Tupac
Tupac died at 25
yeah
Biggie died at like 25, 26
early yeah
you never know what they would have
evolved into
yes
as they continue to grow.
But you know, for me,
even though they didn't have longevity,
boy, they set the world on fire when I was here.
Biggie Tupac, Weezy.
Yeah, Lil Wayne.
And that's a difficult question.
I like so many different artists.
Some of the people I would name, people are like, why you got him in your top five?
He's not even.
Nas.
Lyricist.
Lyricist.
Drake.
Is Drake up there?
Not for me in top five there not for me top five right not top five
probably the best pure lyricist is probably krs1 one yeah most definitely um but i love big daddy
kane i mean the guy that don't get credit that had the greatest longevity hold on i'm a bad Hold on. My battery finna go there. Hold on. It's LL. LL?
Yeah.
Because LL was a team.
He's still going strong.
LL and I are the same age.
LL only 55?
Yeah.
55, 56.
I think he's 55.
I think he and I are the same age.
Oh, I didn't know that.
Yeah.
Right there on LL. LL. Oh, he's't know that. Yeah. Right there on LL.
LL.
Oh, he's licking his lips.
What we got?
Ocho, Skyline or Gold Star Chili?
He's from Houston.
Raised in Cincinnati in adulthood in Baltimore.
Skyline or Gold Star Chili?
Skyline.
Chicken box or crab?
I'm allergic to shellfish,
so I'm only eating chicken.
I ain't messing with no... I ain't working with no shellfish.
In a dilemma,
return my three-year ex...
Hold on.
In a dilemma,
return my three-year ex
or pursue a long-known girl from... Hold on. It says dilemma, return my three year ex or pursue a long known girl from.
Hold on. It says in a dilemma. He says he's in a dilemma.
Return to my three year ex or pursue a long a long known girl from school.
I feel might be the one unsure which path to choose.
I also haven't really talked to her in years, but I
also thought she's the one. Advice.
How do you know if she ain't
the one? So, he's a dilemma.
Okay, does he return
to his ex in three years
or pursue a long
from school? Yeah.
Nah.
Nah.
Bro. Enjoy. Bro.
Enjoy your life.
Man, it's hard going back.
You know what they say?
Love is like an eclair.
Once it goes cold, it can't be reheated.
I know.
You left for a week very few times.
And I'm not saying very few times.
And I'm not going to say never or always because that means forever.
But there are very few times
that you leave
and you're able to go back.
What's going to change?
What's going to change?
Either her or you.
Somebody had to change.
Did you make any changes
or did she make any changes?
And what,
first of all,
what led you to break up
in the first place?
I think that's the biggest key, Ocho. What led you to break up in the first place? I think that's the biggest key, Ocho.
What led you to break up?
Say this out, Ocho.
Alex asked, who's a better wingman?
Uncle Ocho.
Me?
I'm the best wingman.
I'm the best wingman in the world.
Yeah, because I know back in the day, you took one for the team.
So you're that wingman that take one for the team.
Who? Nah. You? Yeah, you'd have took one for the team. So you'd have been the wingman. You're that wingman to take one for the team. Who?
Nah.
You ain't even the team.
Yeah, you got.
I'm the.
Hold on.
You ain't even take one for the team.
I'm the wingman that's going to make sure all the fellas got a woman.
I need you.
I need you.
I need you back in the day to take one for the team.
I need you to be that homeboy that, you know, that'll hit the snake.
If I hold a head, I need you to be that homeboy. Dude, boy, that'll hit the snake. If I hold her head, I need you to be that homeboy.
Dude, boy, it depends on what the snake look like, boy.
Anyway.
I got a homeboy.
Yeah.
He's like an American Express.
I couldn't leave home without it.
Oh, hey, Ocho.
I don't care if she's four foot.
I don't care if she's seven foot. I don't care if she's seven foot.
I don't care if she's 125.
She's 425.
Right.
You know that homeboy I told you?
He will hit the snake if you hold her hand.
Yeah.
My homeboy hit the wood pile to snake in.
Mm.
Yeah, he like that.
Every time.
Yeah, man.
Yeah. Every time Yeah man Yeah Hey
Cause you know
Now you know how
Normal females are
They gonna be about
They gonna be about
Three or four of them
Sometime five
Everybody ain't gonna be
Up to par
Everybody ain't gonna be dimes
And listen
The ones Wayne dimes
Gonna cock block
So you can't get to
The ones who are
I need somebody
Running affairs for them
So they might be one ten
And they four other with them So all of them together Add up to be a ten So. So there might be one 10 and they four other with them.
So all of them together add up to be a 10.
So, you know, there might be two, two, some twos and twos up in there.
Yeah.
So I need somebody.
Hey, homeboy.
Hey, hey, don't worry about it.
Hey, don't worry about it, Sharp.
I got you.
Yeah.
My homeboy got that.
Yeah.
You sure?
Yeah.
He got up.
Homie, you got...
Say no more.
Out to the races.
Out to the races we go.
But you need one of them.
You got to have one.
Every time.
If you ain't got a homeboy
that'll take one for the team,
he ain't no real homeboy.
I have to say,
everybody got it though.
Everybody got one of those in your clique,
in your entourage. Everybody has
one dude that is going to take over the team.
I just want y'all to know, I ain't ever been
that dude. That ain't ever
been me. Oh, no.
Oh, you always been that boy.
You know, I just ain't looking.
Y'all know now,
180, you ain't a lady.
210, count your boy in now.
You know I'm saying, you know.
Hey.
Let me use that.
Now, you're too late.
Now, you got real.
Real.
Yeah.
You good.
I'm good, too, Ocho.
I'm good now.
I'm good, you know.
But back in the day, you know.
Yeah.
All right.
All right.
All right. You know, I always been pretty strong, you know what I'm saying, Ocho, but back in the day, you know. Yeah. All right. All right. All right.
You know, I always been pretty, pretty strong.
You know what I'm saying, Ocho?
You know?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I'm still trying to figure out, man.
I'm like, you throwing like, you throwing hints and clues.
Ocho, they say, dude said before rail, who was your celeb crush?
Damn.
I ain't had no, I ain't,
that's a good one,
but I ain't had,
oh,
yo,
no bullshit.
And I don't even care
if I get in trouble.
Who you had?
Motherfucking
Lin Whitfield,
boy.
Lin Whitfield,
burn your heart,
you done love it.
Hey,
you burn your heart,
you set your call on fire.
You see what she did to Martin?
Listen, Miss Lynn Whitfield.
Let me take my glasses off, man.
So the people understand.
Lynn Whitfield.
Punk, listen here.
Yeah.
I got one more.
Who that?
Kimberly Elise.
Woo, yeah.
No, no, no, no. Yeah, that's her? Yeah. Yeah, I know who you're talking about. Woo, yeah. No, no, no, no.
Yeah, that's her?
Yeah.
Yeah, I know you're talking about.
Yeah, yeah.
Kimberly Elise.
Mm-hmm.
Mm-hmm.
She old little.
She fine right now.
Oh.
As a matter of fact,
I just saw her yesterday.
She fine yesterday, too.
Mm-hmm.
Oh.
You know what?
Oh, Ocho.
Look here.
When I say this guys
I'm not shooting no shot
so don't be tagging this woman
don't be bothering this woman
right
talk to me
you got me hype
who you got
who you got
Regina Hall
Lord have mercy
that's a good one
I met her at the Super Bowl
one year
you didn't get her number
I walk up to her
yeah
I say hey how you doing my name
Shannon sharp she's like I say miss home oh she said you know you are yeah I
introduce myself I say my name is Shannon sharp right I know who you are
yeah but you left an impression on your boy yeah we got it we got to hook that
up what what you think no we don't know
no no we told you I just told you did I just tell you okay my bad all right my
bad so we can give people flowers yeah but I tried to take the flowers okay I'm
sorry okay I apologize I appreciate it Joshua said I just found out today I'll
be a father can I get a shout out for my wife and myself?
Peyton and Joshua.
Love the channel.
Congratulations, Joshua.
I don't know if you know
if it's going to be a boy and a girl,
but I hope it's a healthy baby.
And much success to you and Peyton.
Congratulations on being new parents.
Congratulations on the first.
If this is your first,
one is better than two.
Make sure when she delivers,
you get back in there.
Huh?
Get back in there and do what?
What you mean, get back in there?
Get back in there.
Get my break, man.
Damn.
I ain't getting no break.
I mean, it's the first child.
Yeah.
Two is better than one.
Get back.
You don't want them too far apart.
You don't want them too far apart. Listen, send me a DM. You don't want them too far apart. You don't want them too far apart.
Listen, send me a DM.
You don't want them too close together.
No, you want them close together.
You want to get it out of the way.
Get it out of the way now.
Get it out of the way.
If you want more than one,
get it out of the way
as soon as you deliver.
Give her three weeks.
Get back in there.
John 330 said,
I finally called a live show
and I admire both of you
on and off the field.
Could you guys give my daughter Autumn a birthday shout out?
Happy birthday, Autumn.
She turned 13 today.
Happy birthday, Autumn.
Make sure you eat McDonald's.
Oh, Lord, have mercy.
He's the worst.
He's the worst mentor ever.
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We've gone a lot longer than we
anticipated tonight, but that's
what happens when we have. Yeah.
We went a lot longer than we anticipated. How long we been
on tonight?
How long we been on?
Been on 205, which
is a record. God damn, two hours?
That's what I said, yeah.
And I got to get up.
I got to go to work in the morning.
I got to go to work in the morning, don't you?
Where you got to work at?
Man, you ask me this all the time.
I'm just asking, where?
I got to go to ESPN downtown.
Oh, on first take?
Yeah.
The same first take I've been asking you
to take me on since September?
Oh, Cho.
I'm just, you told me, you told me to wait till you got your goddamn foot in the dough.
Shit, it's been four months.
I'm still waiting.
My foot in the dough, but I ain't got my ass in the dough yet.
You know what I'm saying?
Shit, your ass in the dough.
We almost in 2024.
Your ass has been in the goddamn dough.
Well, that's what I got to get in.
That's what I'll be.
I'll be fully in.
All right.
All right. I'm still waiting, then. I'll wait. Ain't no problem. Yeah what I got to get in. That's what I'll be fully in. All right. All right. I'm still waiting
then. I'll wait. Ain't no problem.
I just want to do
one or two blocks. A block, B block.
I ain't ask for much. That's it.
Thank you, guys.
Thank you. Hey, man.
We got
like 3,000
subs just since
the show started.
I appreciate y'all, man.
I appreciate y'all for subbing, man.
You don't understand.
It means a lot to me, man.
It means a lot to me.
I'm not sure y'all don't even know.
I'm behind on child support
and I'm sure at some point
with y'all subbing
and helping me out,
one day I'm going to be able
to catch up on child support.
I ain't got no...
Yeah, I'm only behind
like $250.
Hey, guys, listen.
And I know you guys,
a lot of people say,
well, everyone is asking
why we can't do songs.
Well, what happened
when we were doing the songs
and we got hit with copyrights.
So when you get hit
with copyrights,
YouTube take the
monetization button off. So for
the entire night, we can't monetize the hour and a half, the hour 45 or the two hours. And it's
just not worth it for Ocho and I. So that's why we can no longer do songs because we lose the ability
to monetize the podcast. I have a question. And this is very confusing to me.
If we sing a song,
let's say, I'm not going to say the name.
Can I even say the name of the song?
You can say the name of it, but we can't sing it. We sang Silent Night, right?
Yes. Silent Night has been
so many people have done
renditions of Silent Night.
How does that affect anyone that were not
saying an artist's name?
Whoever had the original version.
They had a problem
with us singing it?
The
company did. Maybe their estate did.
You know what? I'm
going to make a phone call, man.
I ain't going to make no phone call. We just ain't doing no more songs.
It's just not worth it.
It's not. And I get people, you know,
we were having fun
we said we're having fun but hey no so that's where we are with that we'll find another way to
uh to keep you guys entertained hopefully be a two and a half to two hours the hour but sometimes
we go 90 we always go we always go at least you know at least 75 that's the that's the least
amount of time that we'll go.
But we'll go 75.
Sometimes we go 90.
Sometimes we go 120 minutes, which is two hours.
And so hopefully during that process, our sports take you really enjoy
and the stories that we tell you also enjoy.
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