Club Shay Shay - Nightcap - Durant's Twitter rants, Suns destroy Mavericks, Giannis gets Doc
Episode Date: January 25, 2024Shannon Sharpe and Gilbert Arenas react to the Wednesday NBA slate, including Devin Booker and the Phoenix Suns putting the beats on Luka Doncic and the Dallas Mavericks and the Milwaukee Bucks holdin...g off the Cleveland Cavaliers in their first game after firing their head coach. Unc and Gil also talk Kevin Durant's most recent Twitter rantings, Giannis Antetokounmpo forcing out Adrian Griffin and ushering in Doc Rivers, Grant Hill saying Draymond Green's suspension got him left off Team USA, the upcoming NBA All-Star selections, Marcin Gortat dishing about the dirty tricks players get away with, and much more! #Club #VolumeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Welcome to another edition of Nightcap Basketball Style.
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Hey, Gil, before we get started, talk about this Suns game and we spin around the NBA,
we got to talk about that shootout that you got shot up in.
Now, it was a shootout, but you ain't have no gun.
It got shot up.
Gil, come on.
Man, you know how much money I lost betting on you?
I must have left the clip in the house on because when I went there,
I thought I was loaded up.
I was shooting all blanks, my man.
Gil, how you let this do?
And I told you, see, that's the one thing that you couldn't do.
Remember we had this fight.
We asked Nate Robinson.
We say, Nate, just don't get knocked out.
Nate, you got to do this for the culture.
This is for everybody. This is for all the homies. This is for P, just don't get knocked out. Nate, you got to do this for the culture. This is for everybody.
This is for all the homies. This is for Pookie,
Ray Ray that locked up. We pulled out a little liquor. I said, Nate, just don't get
knocked out. And what happened to Nate?
Falled out in the center
of the ring. All you had to do,
I said, Gil, you came losing the first
round and the dude got to be like
he had to play overseas,
got like three years in the NBA.
You lose to a guy like that.
People ain't going to say nothing.
Gil people like,
Hey man,
a dude was in the league.
Dude played overseas.
Gil.
I lost to everybody.
Forget him.
I lost to,
I was damn near second to last.
Gil,
I mean,
you got to at least make it to the final so we can show the tape.
But how you losing the first round and then you not there the rest of the show?
Listen, listen, listen.
Do you remember when Ocho had his vision on Ravens?
Oh, yeah.
His eyes was bigger than...
Yeah.
How his knees buckled up.
That was my knees during that shootout.
Why were you so tense?
Why were you so nervous?
Because I've been trying to get this thing
off the ground for like three years
and just to see it there,
see the people, see all the players.
The kid came out.
The kid, I was out there tip drilling.
I might be going live. You don't do dollars on me, man.
I would have given you a show.
Because I'm looking at it like, I'll say, well, I know
Gil. Gil, man, at least made it to the
finals. Man, I jumped on
my timeline. They like, the finals?
And Gil went out the
first round.
Aging 12, baby. I'm John round. Agent 12, baby.
I'm John Moran out there, baby.
Agent 12.
I'm out the game.
I mean, how you...
Gil, you can't tell...
Hey, y'all need to see me.
Tell everybody to show up.
You got something for them.
And you showed up with a water pistol.
That cheated up.
Listen, I was there at 3 a.m.
I even hit the shooting machine
so they couldn't use the shooting machine
to get enough shots up.
Ah, well, you had to left all your shots in the gym.
You left all your threes in the gym.
You know how you leave your best stuff
on the cutting room floor?
You know, you making a move and they say,
hey, man, we left our best stuff.
You know, you left your best stuff
on the showroom floor.
I was sweating before the thing started. I was the only
one in there sweating.
Because
you were the only one that had the pressure. You were the NBA
player. No, we had
Nick Young. Everybody was there.
The
excitement, it just got the best of me.
I didn't even know that. So where did
Nick finish?
A lot better than me.
He should have made it to the finals,
but they disqualified him, said his foot
was on the line for his shots.
He went from 18 to 14.
He mad at me.
No,
you should be mad at you.
Damn, to him mad
at you, you should be mad at you. Damn, to him mad at you, you should be mad at you.
All the sleep that you
deprived yourself of,
all the honey that didn't get no honey
because you wanted to get up a couple extra
shots, and you did that for that, Gil?
Listen, I got kids,
man. It was like, you didn't come to my game
for that. Yes, my kids
are like, listen, my kids showed up. As soon as I missed like six, they walked out like, oh, we didn't come to my game for that. Yes, my kids. Listen, my kids showed up.
Soon as I missed like six, they walked out.
Like, oh, we didn't come here for this.
Wow.
My kids ain't talked to me since.
You missed all our games to get out.
They talk about you.
Are you Gil with the Reader, son?
Nope.
Who that is?
You didn't need to train to do that.
Oh, man, that pressure got the best. Gil, it happened to the best of us. Gil, it happened to train to do that. Oh, man, that pressure got to bed.
Gil, it happened to the best of us.
Gil, it happened to the best of us.
All right, let's spin the league.
Suns beat the Mavericks 132-109.
Book went off 46 points, 17-23 from the floor.
KD finished with 12 points on 14 shooting.
Gil, I saw them when when Luca made a three.
And they went up 16.
I come back down.
And it's tied, 58-58.
I said, hold on, what happened?
I go back upstairs to brush my teeth.
And I come back down.
And the sun's up.
I'm like, hold on, wait a minute.
So I come downstairs.
I'm changing all the TVs because I think something glitched upstairs.
I guess they went on the street where they didn't miss but like three or four shots over the course of like 16 minutes.
Yeah, it was called that Devin Booker effect.
That Devin Booker got wild.
He got loose on them.
But that's what can happen when you're dealing with the Suns.
Because you remember over the last couple of games,
Book had a game where he went for 52.
Then KD had a couple of games where he'd go for 40s.
And then here comes Book following up with another 46-point performance.
And that's what happens.
One of those guys can get hot,
and we haven't seen that kind of hot shooting from Bradley Beal.
We know he can get hot and light you up.
But what we have seen is Book and KD alternating games in which each one of those guys goes off.
Yeah, you know, when we're watching this team right now, and we said we haven't, you know, watched Beal go off yet,
he's only taken about eight, like tonight he only took eight shots. Five of eight. Still killing.
Right?
You know, he hasn't taken his 15, 16 shots.
I think he's still trying to get a feel for it.
KD didn't play very well today.
They only took 10 shots.
Right?
He had a little double-double.
Almost a triple-double.
But Booker carried the load for them today.
And that's how good they are.
Right?
Without Kyrie on that side. It's like they're playing all right you're gonna go 50 today and then you're gonna miss tomorrow and i'm gonna
come and get you 50 right we need to see kairi and luca together playing some some some games
and see what they really have right now everybody's been you know subbing in basically subbing in for
each other right you're looking at the box line. Devin Booker had 46.
Grayson Allen had 15.
Five of eight, three of five from the three-point line.
Bradley Beal was eight of 15, three of seven.
He had 20.
As you mentioned, KD played 38 minutes.
Didn't have a great shooting night.
You know KD had a bad night when he goes four of seven from the free throw line.
No, fast.
Right.
So, you know, all of a sudden,
he's struggling with his
shot tonight. He's 0-4 from the
3, 4-10 from the floor, so he
shot 40% from the field.
He shot
0% from the three-point line,
and he's, what,
54-7 is, what,
60% from the
free throw line?
So you know Kevin Durant didn't have it tonight,
but Devin Booker did.
17-23, 6-10 from the three-point line,
and 6-8 from the free throw line.
46 points plus 33 plus minus.
So where do you have the Suns now? After seeing them, they seem to be getting it together.
Where do you think, how high do you think they can go?
And how deep do you think they can make a run in the playoffs?
It's hard to judge them because we haven't seen all three have a great game to see what their potential is.
Right?
We know when one has a great game or two has a great game, you know, okay, they're going to win a game.
I want to see where their ceiling is when all three are making shots.
When all three, you got one at 40, you got another one probably at 40,
another one at like 28.
I want to see what the big three look like when they're all playing well
to see how untouchable they actually look.
Do you think that's realistic? Because
what you just mentioned is the three
guys having 108 points.
I'm thinking all three of these guys together
having something around high
70s to 90 points is
a great game. You mentioned 108 for the
three. Can they all get enough
shots in order to make this happen?
Yeah. I mean,
it's enough shots it's just making shots. When they're all happen. Yeah. I mean, it's enough shots.
It's just making shots.
When they're all making shots together.
Like if KD would have went eight for ten, four for four from the three,
made all his free throws, looking at 25, 26 points, right?
So I just want to see when they're all clicking at the same time,
how scary does it look? Because in the playoffs, all you need is three all clicking at the same time how scary does it look because in the playoffs
all you need is three of those at the right time some game sevens a game six like you know what i
mean like we need to see what happens when it looks all there together and that's what i'm
waiting for right now they still look beatable right but when you look at when you look at it
are you sure we're going to
be able to see that because we got a situation and we see Devin Booker get it going so it's
almost like they give up their game and maybe KD got out of rhythm because he wasn't getting the
shots that he would normally take because okay we're gonna feed the hot hand but it's still even
even with with Booker Booker only missed six shots right yes right that's what I'm saying
if KD's eight for ten and but four for four from the three-point line.
If Beal makes two more shots and he's 10 for 15, right?
Those are going to happen, right?
We just need to see it to see what it looks like when they're both.
Like when KD, Curry, and Klay, when they all was hitting.
Right.
Oh, Lord Jesus.
Yeah.
But see, when they was always hitting, that's jesus yeah but see when they was always hitting that's a 30 or 26 and a 22 you you say you want a 40 40 and a 28 and today's game they putting up
that many points yeah they putting up that many points where they could do that right yeah i the
maverick you're right when you look at the Mavericks no I mean none of the starters
were in double figures except Luka Green had eight Lively the second had eight Derrick Jones
Jr. had six Grant Williams had eight yeah if you get that kind of reduction out of your starters
you're not gonna you're not gonna win obviously they miss Kyrie Kyrie you know Kyrie's gonna
give you somewhere 22 to 28 points.
So maybe that would have been enough to kind of offset what they were doing.
But, yeah, the Mavericks are so undermanned without Kyrie because basically it's a two-man team.
Everybody else tried to get in where they fit in.
But this is a two-man team, and one of the men were out.
I didn't really expect them.
I didn't expect the game to flip like it did,
but I didn't expect the Mavericks to win this game. Yeah yeah yeah but see this is a game where tim hardaway jr right he what
is he coming off the bench for they got they got they got a juggernaut team coming in here of
scoring we need to put our best scores on the court you're your second best player that's right
now playing when you take Kyrie out is is
Tim Hardaway Jr. Why is he off the bench
still? Like let that shit go.
Let that old mentality go where
you have a bunch of defensive players that can't
score 6-6-8-8
like what are they on the floor for?
You got to match scoring at this
point.
Do you think a situation that
if you take him and you take him off the bench,
you're gonna lose so much of your bench scoring?
It's the same.
If I can't keep up with the starting five and then I got a sub a man anyway,
what's the point?
Right, me coming off the bench and I got a guy coming off the bench against their
bench players doesn't really do me any good cuz he has to make up this 17 point,
this 15 pointpoint loss.
It never made sense, right?
Let bench players play against bench players
because what's happening is you have bench players
trying to guard Booker.
Right.
Right?
And Booker don't have to play no defense.
Who he had to guard?
Who he had to guard today?
Right.
Green, Josh Green.
And the thing was, well, if you really look at it it, Gil Hardaway Jr. basically played start a minute.
Grant Williams only played 11 minutes.
Derrick Jones Jr. only played 24 minutes.
So theoretically, even though he's a he's coming off the bench, he's really playing start a minute.
Kind of like Lou Will and Trez did when they played with the Clippers that last year.
They ended up playing starters minute, even though they were coming
off the bench, because more times than not
they would end up closing the games.
And so they ended up getting the lion's share
of the minutes. But I understand what you're saying
is that, look, we need to match
their scoring. So if we're down by 20,
it doesn't matter what he's going to come in and give us off the bench.
We already down too far.
Yes. Right.
KD is at it again. He's been responding to a responding guys on on twitter he's katie says uh masters like katie does it does it to disturb you
that regardless whatever you do the rest of your career you'll never be beloved by the fans in
golden state your golden state move that's um that you were like were like Anakin Skywalker that was supposed to bring balance
to the force, then you joined the dark side.
Fans by merch, vote me
into the All-Star game to support me in real life.
But Trey Trey,
he got off that tweet.
So, look,
Kevin has made it abundantly clear.
He's not going to shy away.
He's going to speak, be it through
his verified account or through his burner account.
He's going to respond.
What's your take on this, Gil?
Human, man.
It's human.
I mean, you know, when you're talking about just us, even though we're athletes, right, personalities, we have feelings too.
Right. personalities. We have feelings too. You're talking about, you're a
Golden State fan, and you're
telling me that you would never be
loved. Two of your rings
came because of me. Shut up.
You know what I mean? Two of your
rings came because of me.
No matter what you say,
Steph Curry has four rings.
Two of those rings were because
of me.
I, single-handedly, with the help Jeff Curry has four rings. Two of those rings were because of me. Right.
Right.
I, I single handedly with the help of y'all came in here and dominated.
Period.
Right.
You know, y'all lost the Cleveland and came and got me.
Right.
And we won two rings off of my help.
So to try to disrespect me is, is what would hurt anybody's feelings.
Yeah, but he has to understand.
People are looking at it.
You joined a team that won 73 games.
No team in the 77, 78-year history of the NBA has ever won that many games.
And you joined a team that had a unanimous MVP.
Since they've been handing out that award, only one man has ever
won that award unanimously.
That's Steph Curry.
You joined that team
after having that team down.
You had the team down 3-1
that ended up losing the championship
after being up 3-1.
And you go join them
and you're like, bro,
it's all good.
And people say, well, LeBron did.
Cleveland, if I'm not mistaken, Miami won 47 games that year and went out in the first round.
So I don't understand why he doesn't understand why people like,
it would be like, who won the championship?
It would be like the Nuggets win the championship,
and all of a sudden, Joel Embiid or Giannis goes and joins.
People are like, well, no, wait a minute, bro.
And you win a championship, and then you up there beat your chest up,
but, hey, I got two titles.
No, no.
Listen, listen.
Wait, wait.
Hold on.
Come on, talk to me.
They came and got me.
They lost.
How can I get you if you don't want to go?
No, what I'm saying is they lost 3-1
to LeBron. So that's 79 that day.
That's 73. That record didn't mean
shit because they didn't win a title.
But you lost 3-1 to that very team.
So what does that say about you?
You had them down 3-1. Yeah, we had them
down 3-1. We
lost. We gave it up.
They gave it up too and came and got
me because they couldn't get past LeBron.
But you could have said no. I could have.
That's what you told me. You said Cassius,
yes. So you could have said no.
Could have said no, but they was bagging up.
I need you, baby.
Here I come.
It's not like
you've been to the champion.
He is searching for something just like they are searching for something.
Right.
When he's a free agent, he has all the scoring titles.
He has an MVP.
He's a first ballot Hall of Famer.
Without the titles.
Without a title.
Just if he ended his career at 28, first ballot Hall of Famer.
The only thing he needed as an individual resume was
a ring and a finals
MVP. Once
he won that, he's been floating since.
Yes, but
here's my thing, Gil. This
is me. I believe
you can be great,
great without a
championship,
but in order to be considered the greatest,
you have to have those.
This is why you have to have,
because how do you put a guy with one MVP
and say he's in the GOAT?
Because now you're saying, okay, Kareem has six MVPs.
Jordan has five.
Russell has five.
LeBron has four.
Wilt has four.
That's regular season MVPs.
Now, obviously, they didn't start handing out finals MVPs to 1969.
So how many would Bill Russell finals MVPs would he have had if he had won 11 championships?
I'm assuming if he wins 11, he's probably, let's just be safe, safe gill and says he wins four let's just say that
okay he's gonna win four uh will probably he won two titles he's probably gonna be at least one
finals mbp maybe both because he did average like 18 19 rebounds and like 18, 19 points in the finals with the Lakers. So if you,
that's why I said,
for me,
you have to have three regular season MVPs and at least two final MVPs,
because now you just going to be bringing guys.
Cause every,
so everybody that has one title and one in one regular season MVP can say,
well,
I'm in the gold debate.
And how do we argue that?
But you can, because at the end of the day, what is the debate?
It's only two people in a sense, right?
If we do a vote and we say, all right, let's do a vote, we're gonna put five people out
there.
Whoever has the two highest, the other three get the fuck off, right?
You're not even part of this debate anymore.
We're saying your name for fucks and giggles, right?
And that's just the way it is.
So the debate is really not a debate.
We're just trying to figure out how to keep people's name alive.
Right.
But the thing is, is that no one has ever mentioned him in the GOAT debate.
He brought that up.
Me personally, now maybe you heard it because you're around basketball a lot more than I am.
I do cover
the game but i've never ever heard since i've been on television the last seven eight years
anybody put him in the goat debate no i could be wrong okay so his debate is okay right like when
we talk about kevin durant we talk about he is probably the best natural score that ever played.
Right?
Yes.
Okay.
So when you say natural score, it's just who scores better, him, Kobe, or Jordan?
That's the category he's in.
That ain't no goal.
So you're talking about, okay, so he's in the goal scoring conversation.
I take will.
I take will.
conversation. I'll take will. I'll take will.
But we're talking about not just
natural, the ability to
just put the ball in the basket,
right? Yes.
That's what, just like the goat
of point guards, the goat of shooting
guards, right? The big man.
There's these layers of goats
that we have.
That ain't what we do, Gil. We don't say, okay,
the goat of
Africa is this, and the goat
of India is this, and the goat of
this jungle is that. That ain't what we do.
I know, but... Gil, we say goat.
When we say goat, we're talking
about everyone. We're talking about
a basketball player.
A lot of times, we've kind of
excluded the big man because
we say, well, the big man couldn't do it because we got to get somebody to get them the ball.
So we've got it. That's why I kind of Kareem. I mean, Kareem got six MVPs.
He got more MVPs than anybody. He got six championships.
And he was the all time lead score, the third all time lead rebounder.
And people poop Kareem like he was trash.
all-time leading rebounder, and people poopoo Kareem like he was trash.
And people don't realize what you see
Joel Embiid do. Kareem
was doing that in the 70s.
But that's what I'm saying. It was the 70s, man.
They didn't care about
basketball until the black
and the white got together.
When this was gumbo, right?
When it was a gumbo, when it was a mixing pot of all
the talent in the world,
78, 79,
that's when the NBA started.
That's why Magic Bird
was their guys.
Right.
The GOAT debate is really,
it's not,
it's really not a debate, right?
You have Michael Jordan
who stands in a room by himself,
right?
The things he did for the game
can never be matched. There's never going to be
a 10-time scoring champ.
No. So no matter what you
say, he's going to hold, that's going to
be held on everyone's hand.
10-time scoring champ.
Six-time finals MVP.
Those are not
going to happen.
Not for another 10, 15, 20
years. So he's going to be in a category
of his own. Everybody's really
just fighting for second.
It's fighting for second place.
That's all this argument
is when you're talking about debate.
Who's going to fight for second place
at this point?
Okay.
But I've really
never, look, that like I said
obviously when you're a great player
obviously you hold yourself in very very
high regards and I tell
people this all the time and people used to look at me like
I was crazy I say the greater the player the greater
the ego
it's really simplistic
and the guys in my sport
that have the biggest ego is a quarterback
they just do the best job of hiding it
because they've been groomed of saying,
always saying the right thing,
but they have the biggest egos.
They absolutely do.
That's why the coaches have to coach them the delicate,
the most delicate,
because they are the ones that feelings get hurt the most,
the quickest.
So a lot of times he might be
saying, he might be coaching the quarterback
through one of his other players, yelling
at the other player, hey bro, you got to make that catch.
When the quarterback threw that shit over
his head. No, no, bro, you're talking about
make the catch. I'm going to
give you a better ball to catch.
But I was surprised.
I could see, let's just
say for the sake of argument,
it's a conversation, it's Kareem and Jordan, and it's Magic,
or it's Tim Duncan.
Tim Duncan is another guy.
People make it seem like Tim Duncan didn't play in the NBA.
Do people realize how great Tim Duncan was?
He had to battle Shaq and Kobe ass.
He couldn't get out of the West unless he went through them. And those were prime Shaq and Kobe ass. He couldn't get out of the West unless he went through them.
And those were prime Shaq and Kobe.
Not Shaq in Boston.
Not Shaq in Cleveland.
Shaq at the Lakers,
that is absolute apex.
And a Kobe that was coming in his own.
A 1920, 23-year-old Kobe.
I mean, y'all think so.
They like, okay, yeah.
A 15-time All-defensive player, a regular season, a multiple-time regular season MVP, a multiple-finals MVP.
And people are just like, oh, okay.
I'm like, well, damn. You know what it is? When you take all accolades away and you say, all right, if we put the best of the best and we have this tournament of a champion, we all are for ourselves.
I don't know if you can get anybody today in today's game to bet against Kevin Durant.
You can put Kobe. You can put Kobe, you can put
Michael, you can put... I don't
see anybody betting against him.
They do that king of the heel, that is
probably the most unstoppable sum
bitch that's playing.
But let me ask you a question.
Do we got a guard?
Because who is he going to guard now?
You got to stop him.
He got to stop somebody too. He. He got to stop somebody, too.
He ain't going to make every shot.
Every team he's played on.
Oh, he is king of the heel.
No one's beat him in king of the heel.
Steph, Klay, you name every team he's played on, he is dominant.
That's why I said you wouldn't get nobody to vote against Kevin Durant.
And that's putting that ball in that. Yes. But here's the vote against Kevin Durant. Putting that ball in that desk.
Yes, but here's the thing.
The things that get you in the go.
So if we took away Jordan's six finals
and six MVPs, he ain't the GOAT.
He ain't in the discussion.
We have to use accolades to ultimately
measure how great
someone is. But wait,
he didn't have those when they gave him that title, though.
But see, that was the thing. that title, though. He was.
But see, that was the thing.
That's not true.
He was not to go in the 80s.
Larry and Magic was.
And everybody talked about he was in the 80s.
Yes.
80, 87, 88, 88, 89.
It was an article.
Greatest players to ever walk this earth.
But the thing was an article, greatest players to ever walk this earth. But the thing was, Gil, they were looking at it because they had never seen anybody score and glide and do the things that he was doing.
But he wasn't winning.
That's why you have to have X.
Because had he been winning, well, the 80s would have belonged to him instead of Magic and Larry.
But he wasn't winning.
But what I'm saying is even in the 90s, when he started winning his championships,
all he was doing is just shutting everybody up that he wasn't the greatest of all time.
But nobody waited till he had six to say, OK, now you're the greatest.
But Gil, you were the greatest player to ever, ever walk the earth.
You do realize like Magic and Bird had
Magic was on his last legs.
Magic was not the Magic Johnson
in the 80s that was winning.
Larry Back
had gone out because think about
it. What it takes, remember
what happened when Clay
and KD went to all those finals?
That was the Lakers and the Celtics.
So the Lakers and the Celtics. So the Lakers and the Celtics was battled out.
So they went like 84, 85, skip 86, 87, and they battled out.
One of those teams was in the finals damn near every year from the time Magic got in.
Magic went 80.
Larry went 81.
Magic went 82, 83. Larry went 84. Magic went 82, 83.
Larry went 84.
They played each other in 85.
Bird won 86.
Magic went back to the finals in 87, 88.
And again, I'm like, bro.
So they're making Magic went to the finals nine of his 12 years in the NBA.
Mm-hmm.
Nine.
But that's what I'm saying.
But none of it meant nothing if they
gave him the crown, basically
crowned him when he won his first
one, because it was what he
brought to the game itself.
So when we're looking at the
finished resume, when we're
finishing his resume, yeah,
we can say, all right, six rings,
six this, but when he got the crown,
he didn't have all those accolades.
They just knew he was the best player
that ever walked this planet.
You don't have...
So let me ask you,
let's just say for the sake of argument,
let's just say for the sake of argument,
he does what he does
and he doesn't win any titles.
Is he the GOAT?
No.
No.
You can't have that discussion.
You cannot have an honest discussion with a man that has,
let's just say he wins because he had,
he did win one.
He won an MVP in the eighties.
So he just gets one MVP in the eighties.
And he,
let's just say he wins two finals.
He's not the goal.
And all those scoring titles,
all those scoring titles. All those scoring titles.
Because hell,
if that's the case,
Will is.
Will had seven
and changed his game.
Okay, so in 92-93,
in 92-93,
how is he the greatest player
on Earth with two rings?
He already surpassed
Will in all of them.
Nobody was talking
about Will anymore
in 92-93.
Well, first,
like I said,
people didn't,
all of a sudden, the GOAT conversation came into effect because now because we're measuring him against larry and magic because
of contemporaries because nope i mean will first of all there was basically just wilton russell
they're two entirely different players one wasorer. Other was a great defender.
Accomplished.
Won a lot of rings. But I mean, one guy averaged 30
and 23 for a career.
I mean, the guy never averaged
fewer than 18 rebounds in a season.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, you
average up all the 35 plus. Will
got five seasons in which he scored at least
35 points a game. That's crazy.
That's crazy.
Let that sink in. Five seasons.
I mean, he got like
60. Well, he had like, I mean,
how many 60-point games does he
have?
And so for me,
I just think the thing is,
the GOAT discussion, I think, I don't
think we can honestly have the discussion
without titles.
And I understand that Kevin says,
hey, why y'all not including me?
I just don't think he has enough regular season
MVPs. I think the two
finals MVPs, you
get two championship finals MVPs,
but for me, you got to have at least three regular season
MVPs to enter that discussion.
Because the guys that we would include in that, they have so many.
But that's what I'm saying.
If Jordan is the GOAT, and that's who we're going to name as the greatest, right?
There's nothing you can do individually that's going to accomplish.
The game has changed so much that there's just stats you're just not going to be able to obtain, right?
There's a point you're not going to be able to.
So his criteria can't be
the criteria. So you have to
curve it. So that's why I said
he can't be a part of this anymore
because he's not in this door.
Now, I'm including everything.
Huh? Because you
put weight on regular season
MVPs. You put weight on championship,
finals MVPs,
scoring titles, all NBA, all NBA defensive teams, all star games, points scored, things like that.
Because we have to average. We have to bring all of that to the to the table.
But the problem with that is they don't change that format, too.
So the centers back then that that got voted in because it's just them and the rest of the sinners, they get smushed in now with-
It's the front court.
Yeah, so you took away future sinners from dominating like the rest of them did.
So that kind of hurts the development, right?
And we can say Curry was the unanimous winner, but you're telling me,
then who on God, green green earth voted against Jordan 88
performance? Right, when they brought it against LeBron, remember Camilo got the one vote,
somebody voted against Shaq, remember that Shaq year? Shaq was one vote short.
So most of the stuff that we sit here and try to bring in is faulty too. Now we have
all-star voting
where now
those fan votes
are not even true anymore.
Now you get 50% something else.
We get to diet coke this
mother-bugger now too.
I think the players get a part of the vote too, right?
And the coaches
don't just have their own goddamn vote. What you need to be in the vote too, right? And the coaches don't just
have their own goddamn vote. What you
need to be in this vote too?
I don't even know what y'all voting for
to be honest. Because usually, Gil,
the fans always voted the starters
in the NBA. That was the one thing
is that the fans said, you know what?
This is who we want.
And I think they kind of,
it was somebody that, oh, it's almost
when they got Zaja Pachulia in.
They kind of tweaked it after that. They said, come on now.
See, y'all making a mark. But
you remember when the fans voted Magic?
Magic wasn't even in the NBA, and they
voted to start the All-Star game. He won the
MVP in Orlando
in 92. But that's what I'm
saying. If you have the fans voting,
you got Zaja in there, what's the problem? In Orlando in 92. But that's what I'm saying. If you have the fans voting.
You got to let them vote.
You got Zaza in there.
What's the problem?
The fans.
Voted him in.
The people who are paying the rent.
This is who they want. It's his fault that he got a big fan base.
That's the point of it.
So you can see who the fans love.
They wanted him.
Think about Yao.
Yao was always going to get voted in. He got the biggest fan
base in the world.
They had to cut China
off so they wouldn't vote
Yao for everything.
That's what I'm saying. That was the point of it.
Fans voting who they
actually like.
You know what I mean? You had to be
a fan favorite. That is
the thing.
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but Udonis Haslam thinks Duncan Robinson
would beat KD in a shooting contest
and everybody
he's like do you understand what I'm saying
I'm not saying Duncan Robinson
is a better player
but if the best shooters always won
Steph Curry would be 8 for 8
in three point competitions and inferior.
Uh,
what was the kid?
What was the kid name?
He played with LeBron in Cleveland and he's with Brooklyn.
Uh,
that,
that beat Steph.
I think if he beat Steph and Clay in the finals,
one year,
Kyle,
uh,
Kyle Corver,
not,
not Kyle Corver.
What's the guy?
Uh,
he hurt his ankle.
He was just with Brooklyn. The last team he's with
was Brooklyn.
Who the hell is still in the league?
Mm-mm. He gone
now.
He played with KD, Kyrie,
the white guy.
Not Kyle Korver?
Nope. Nope.
That's good.
Joe Harris. Joe Harris.
Joe Harris.
Remember Joe Harris won the three-point competition
against Dan McClain?
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
I forgot.
Why is that so far-fetched?
With great shooters on a given day, yes.
Yes.
Yes.
It's not far-fetched to believe that in a shooting contest,
Duncan Robinson could beat Kevin Durant.
Not that he's a better player.
There are better players.
There are players that could have been
Michael Jordan in a shooting contest
that were inferior players.
That could be Kobe in a shooting contest
that were inferior players.
I don't think people understand
that when you say somebody can do something,
that doesn't mean that's just a specific thing.
Yeah, I get what he was saying, but that doesn't mean that's just a specific thing.
I get what he was saying, but there's a difference between a shooter and a
shot maker, right?
A shooter can be a shooter, just chuck that shit out.
Listen, when I scored 12,
I was a shooter.
I was a shot maker
that day. Kevin Durant
can flat out put
that thing in the basket.
I don't think UD understands
how great
Kevin Durant's shooting
actually is.
If it's just me and you out there,
you don't get any more credit for shot making
as opposed to what I do if the ball just goes
in the basket. I think that's what UD
is saying. If we just had a contest
and both guys just got to put the ball in the basket. So I think that's what UD is saying. If we just had a contest and both guys just
got to put the ball in the basket, I
believe, he's saying, I believe
Duncan Robinson can beat Kevin
Durant if they just got to just put the ball
in the basket. They took 100 threes,
20, 25
spots, 20 shots. Kevin Durant will
blow him the fuck out.
You remember he played in Golden
State with Clay and Curry.
Yes, yes.
They said those shootouts
was nightmares.
Just flat out shooting.
Well, I saw Steph Curry make
102. So you think Kevin Durant
can make 104?
He's never done that.
He's never done that, right?
But they said Kevin Durant was never in third place.
He was never in third place.
So he won all of them.
No, no, no.
They said Kirby was winning, but Kevin Durant didn't get third.
He's going to get guaranteed second, basically.
They said that when those three were shooting, they used to have shootouts.
They'd see who was the best shooter.
They said the only thing that they would beat Kevin Durant on
is coming off screens.
Coming off screens, but when it just came out to five spots,
20 shots, and they're shooting to 100,
Kevin Durant had that thing on a swivel too.
It'd be very
interesting. When you bet your money,
it was like, ah.
Right. Because
a lot of times, it's guys that we think,
oh, that's the big name. That's the guy.
I mean, how many times did Reggie Miller win the
three-point competition? How many times did Ray
Allen win the three-point competition?
So, you know, on a given
day?
But the way
he was saying it, he was trying
to make it seem like
he's
going to take him just as
a shooter, just flat-out shooting.
He'll take him every single day.
If we take it ten times,
Duncan Robinson's losing nine, guaranteed.
Just flat-out shooting. Kevin Durant,
that's what he do.
We look at his percentage because he got
to create and do all this.
All right, spot up, you two spot
up shoot all day.
That's all Kevin Durant does.
So if we say, okay,
we're going to treat it like
the three-point
competition and the all-star game.
And we say, what,
did they get five balls per spot?
Mm-hmm.
If we did that 10 times,
how many times do you think
Kevin Durant win it?
Seven.
The only thing that would be
with Kevin Durant's problem
would be picking it off the rack
versus passing it to me.
That's why I said,
most of our shooting,
we say, all right,
everybody get 100 shots.
And as I said, if they all got 100
shots, Duncan Robinson's not beating him.
He don't even beat Kawhi Leonard.
Those guys shoot the ball.
Yeah, but it all depends
on what spot they're shooting from. If it's in the
mid-range, I'm going to take Kawhi.
If we're talking threes, I'm taking Duncan Robinson to be
Kawhi. Because that's what Duncan Robinson has to do.
Yes. And this is why I would take Duncan Robinson on catch and shoot
because he catch and shoots more than Kevin Durant.
Kevin Durant creates more of his own shot.
Duncan Robinson ain't creating no shot.
Duncan Robinson is coming off a screen, off a pin down, a flare,
but KD is going to create a shot.
KD's going to dribble.
He's going to, you know,
he's going to go two dribbles to the left,
two dribbles, pull up.
That's what he's going to do.
That's not Duncan Robinson.
Duncan Robinson ain't dribbling
and pulling up on nothing.
I can tell you right now,
if we did,
if we asked Duncan Robinson
how many shots you take a day,
I guarantee you,
Kevin Durant is triple times that.
That's all he does. That's
all he do.
He watches games,
Twitter, shooting.
The guys that look like
they're not that great,
you really have to understand how great
a shooter is when he's
moving and dribbling in this.
Yes.
We're going to do all that now. I'm going to take it in this. Right, yes. Yes, yes.
Oh yeah, we're going to do all that now. I'm taking KD.
If you're talking about, okay, no.
Flat out corner shooting,
Duncan Robinson don't have a chance.
Yeah, if you're talking about, okay, no.
You got to dribble. You got to create your own shot.
Okay, we're going to give you 100 shots.
And they're going to be three.
They're going to be mid-range. They're going to be free throw line, they're going to be top of the key.
I'm taking KD.
No, I'm taking Duncan Robinson.
No, you're talking about, hold on.
No, but you're doing all this on your own.
No, what I'm saying is, Duncan Robinson, he moves to come for his shot, right?
Now, he has less energy, right?
Kevin Durant spends more energy trying to dribble the ball and get through people.
Yes.
So if you say, all right, Kevin Durant, you can just sit in the corner and just shoot.
That's effortless to him.
But Gil, how often does he just practice just sitting in the corner?
All day.
That's what I'm saying.
That's what you do all day.
You have to get the blueprint first.
You have to get the foundation of just Pierce shooting in.
Right.
He will take 500 spot shots first before he starts dribbling.
That's what I'm saying.
It's not what people think.
The people like him, the people like Kyrie, just the flat out shooting part,
the Lucas,
the flat out just catching,
shoot spot shots.
That's instilled in them already,
but that's just not their game because they had to do more.
So somebody like Duncan Robinson,
them,
you don't even put up enough shots to even compete in something like this.
It just looks good because you,
you take,
you, you take few shots,
so that means you pick and choose which shots you're going to take.
So you look like you're a better shooter.
But if we put that value in and say,
all right, oh, yeah, he's not the ball,
you're a shooter that came in the ring.
No, but I'm saying we're going to take 100 shots
from whatever spot you pick.
Right.
Duncan Robinson wouldn't even be in the top 20.
You think he's going to get
fatigued?
I don't think he'd have enough in his arm
just to do that. I don't give a shit.
It's different.
Those shooters compete.
You have shooters like that, they compete
with the stars to see who can shoot the best.
Right.
You'll be surprised who can just put
that ball in the that ball i ain't
surprised because when i go to the game i see the guy that don't even get off the bench and he's
effing swishing 10 12 and effing rope so i'm not surprised so if that guy doesn't get off the bench
and he's only getting into mop-up duty and he shoot like that i could understand what the guys
like a step what a guy's like a cameron and guys that can flat out shoot and score the basketball.
I already know what they're doing.
Yeah, I had teammates pull that on me, right?
Oh, you a volume shooter.
You can't shoot.
And they bet $20,000 against him.
I said, I'll beat him with one arm.
What are you talking about?
I'll beat you with one arm.
Put the 20 racks up.
Beat him with one arm.
Yeah.
Because this is what I do.
Y'all looking at the stat sheet like this.
He takes six shots a game.
Oh, yeah.
Your percentage is going to be higher.
Yes.
Your percentage is going to be higher.
Don't let this fool you.
He don't need to be in the gym long enough to beat me.
Right.
It's like a running back that gets five carries a game,
and he's averaging six yards, seven yards a carry,
versus a guy that's running the ball 20 times a game, and he's averaging six yards, seven yards a carry versus a guy that's running the ball 20 times a game,
and he's averaging four, and people all make a scene.
Man, look at his yards per carry.
He better.
Yeah, he's not getting the attempt.
But once he gets to like eight carries or 12 carries,
and they done hammered on his ass,
now all of a sudden he's going to be averaging three yards a carry
and not that six or seven.
Yeah, yeah.
Udonis Haslam calls, well, not UD,
the Miami Heat retired Udonis
number 40.
And
Paul Pierce kind of took issue
to that.
What's your take on that, Gil?
Hey, man.
When you say rivalry is a rivalry,
man, them boys,
like UD deserved that.
Like, what he's done for Miami and, you know, the culture he's brung, the loyalty he's brung.
He belongs in that raffle.
Yes.
Right?
Paul is just petty.
Right?
That's just petty.
Right?
You know, he said he'll whoop them both in the grocery store if he catches them.
Yeah.
Which is bold because that's 2 verse 1
Well they better not be in Miami
Because the whole grocery store
Is going to be with UD
So it's going to be the whole grocery store
Paul Pierce ain't leaving Los Angeles
True
But he doesn't deserve that man
I agree
You can't look at someone
because a lot of times you know you just
look at like man that's supposed to be
reserved for the like the historically
great players of an organization
to have your number retired and nobody
else be allowed to wear that that's
supposed to be reserved for D Wade
or LeBron Steph
Katie guys of that nature not a guy
that probably the last decade played what?
Five,
six minutes a game.
Yeah.
Yes.
You know,
and,
and we can't,
you know,
we can't see the value.
Like the heat saw the value in him.
Yes.
Because,
you know,
we hear what he did,
you know,
turn it on his money to get,
you know,
LeBron and. Yeah. Yeah. Like he stayed when he on his money to get LeBron.
Yeah, yeah.
He stayed when he could have went to Dallas.
You know what I mean?
So when they talk about championships, they're looking at him as,
you're the reason we won these championships.
You might not have the numbers and all that,
but you are the glue that glued all this together.
That's Mickey's value.
You know what I mean?
And sometimes from the outside, we're looking at numbers
and they're looking at loyalty. So that's a loyalty
move and he deserves that.
I agree. I don't have a problem
with a team
rewarding loyalty.
What he brought, the culture,
the effort, what he held everybody
accountable, practice, games.
So I think it's a job well-deserved.
Congrats to the OGUD having his number retired.
That's a huge honor.
From Miami, hometown team, retired in New Jersey.
Kudos to you, bro.
Bucks beat the Cavs 126-116, but that's not the story.
The story is Adrian Griffin, 43 games into his rookie season, gets fired.
And I read, and everybody from Stephen A., my partner, to you,
and everybody that I've heard says nobody is surprised by this move.
With the man sleeping with the owner's daughter, with his wife.
I mean, how the hell?
I mean, you got the second best record in the East,
one of the best overall records in the NBA,
and they like, hey, bro,
they tap on your shoulder and say,
hey, your service is no longer required.
You ever heard of consulting?
Yes.
Do you know what consulting is, right?
When you need, when you're asking somebody to give you advice on something, right?
Yeah, Bucks, I don't think Adrian's getting it done right now.
I think we should replace him.
With who?
With who, Doc?
Me, I'm the who, Doc? Me.
I'm the guy, right?
I'm your consultant. I know what knows best.
Like me, I want to consult for Club Che Che.
Right.
I want to consult for
Monday, Thursday, Saturday,
Sunday. I think we need to consult you
with a person
by the name of Gil Butts, right?
Your chat
would be like, hell no.
Is that what Doc
was doing? Hell yeah, that's what
Doc was doing.
That dirty, macking-ass man.
Come on, Gil.
Unc!
That man dirty-macked
everybody.
Everybody.
But here's the thing, though.
Gil, and I know you're a great player,
but this is not a good look for Giannis.
I mean, J.K. had got gone.
Boone Holzer got gone.
Adrian Gifford got gone.
I mean, damn.
And it's been reported that he changed plays and refused to sub out.
Well, if the thing is, if the players have lost respect for the coach,
we got to go.
Whether it's 10 games, 15 games, five games, it doesn't matter.
If the players don't have respect for you, you got to go.
Wait, hold on, hold on, hold on.
With all due fairness,
it was Monday.
It was Monday.
Right.
Embiid out there, motherfucker, was 70.
Right.
And at the same time, he got what?
His brother probably telling him,
Embiid got 55.
Adrian telling myself, he like, hell no.
Right.
This is Monday.
I'm not subbing out on Monday.
Nobody's subbing out on Monday.
What Embiid was doing over there,
I'm not subbing for nobody right now.
I'm playing Detroit Pistons.
I'm trying to get what Embiid is doing on that ticker.
Yeah, Giannis had a monster night tonight.
I think he had a 36-point triple-double.
Yeah, he had a triple-double tonight, put up monster numbers.
Again, Giannis had 35 on 16 of 24, 18 rebounds, 10 assists, and 35 minutes.
And if you notice, Giannis, he I think, if I'm not mistaken,
I think he has like seven or eight triple doubles this year.
So he's really rounded his game.
He's always, he could always score, obviously.
He could always rebound.
I hope he can rebound.
He's only Brooke Lopez, seven foot tall, and can't rebound.
But he's expanded his game as far as facilitating.
Now the assist total, now he's more, I mean, higher assist total.
He's averaging, what, six a game?
And a couple, like I said, a couple, I think seven or eight times he's had triple doubles.
But we see that from Joel Embiid.
We know Nikola Jokic is one of the premier passing big mans in the history of the game.
Not just, actually, he's one of the premier pass big mans in the history of the game. Not just, actually, he's one of the
premier passers in the game, regardless.
Small, big, medium, it
doesn't matter. He's just that good.
But Giannis' game, he's rounded
his game, and he's really coming to his
own. And it's, I mean,
I guess, I mean, I kind of
feel bad because the guy gets an opportunity.
The likelihood, what you think the likelihood
of Adrian Griffin getting another head job?
He's
33 and 13?
30 and 13?
Well, somebody thought that wasn't good enough.
That someone is winning
culture. He was winning culture
of the year.
They would have finished. Who was going to win it?
Right? He was
going to win culture of the year with that record.
I mean, for God's sake, the guy who replaced him has the worst percentage of coach of the year.
I don't even know how he got coach of the year in 99.
He was 41 and 41, which is the worst percentage
any coach of the year. You are
50% and you won
coach of the year. How is this man
getting? Who is this man?
Who does he know?
Well, I guess it's a son that
nobody know about. Who's his daddy?
I guess they're saying, well,
you went 41 and 41. You should have been
21 and
61.
Yeah, but that's what I'm saying.
Like the team was 33 and 17 the year before you got there with Chuck Daly.
You go 41 and 41.
They give you an award?
You are the first.
Man, listen, listen, listen, listen.
This only makes sense for the Bucs if they never play a game seven in the playoffs.
Because right now he's the worst coach in game sevens.
Yes.
His record is the worst in game sevens.
And two of the wins that he has was against an eighth seed.
He went to a game seven with an eighth seed the year they won the championship.
And then the second round,
he went to a game seven.
Those are two of the wins that
he gets to add to his
resume. Other than that, he's done
lost every fucking important game that
you can, he's the most,
he's the guy you do not want coaching
in a game seven. but i'm looking at it
and mark jackson mark jackson doc rivers has had three coaching jobs
before mark jackson has even got an interview if i'm not mistaken
man his he gotta be the his daddy must be the president.
I'm sorry, Glenn, this don't even make sense, man.
I'm sorry, his resume and him getting jobs, it doesn't make sense.
His name, there's nothing in his resume that says, ooh, we need this coach.
So how does he keep getting these coaches
jobs? Who is he sleeping
with?
Who do you know? Let me know
this person. I want a job.
Let me get a job. I get fired.
This man getting fired and then
while he's fired, he's auditioning
for another job.
Because like I said, I just don't know.
It's just hard for me to see that what Mark Jackson did, whatever the case may be, that is so egregious that it disqualifies him from ever getting a job again or from ever even getting an interview.
That's what's the hard part for me.
What did he do?
Okay.
I mean, he's not the only, I'm sure he's not the only coach that loves God, goes to church,
has Bible study.
I'm sure he's not the only coach in NBA history that was like that.
I need somebody to definitively tell me
Mark Jackson did, Shannon,
what he did was so egregious,
it was so beyond pale
that it disqualifies him
from ever being a coach in the NBA.
I just need somebody to tell me definitively.
Listen, when you have power,
trust me,
you can keep somebody out of the NBA as long.
Listen,
when Michael Jordan left the wizards,
anybody,
you can Google it.
When he was trying to get a job for the Milwaukee,
I'm in the room when that call happened.
He better not ever work in this NBA while I'm still alive.
Click.
He didn't get the owner's job until Mr. Poland passed away.
until Mr. Poland passed away.
Before that, Michael Jordan was exiled from coach for owning anything that had to do with the NBA until Mr. Poland passed.
So when you being blackballed, God damn it, it don't matter who you is.
Because I seen it with my own eyes.
And if you want to Google it, you can Google it. Mr. Poland passed in what, December or November, December.
Michael Jordan didn't get offered the job until next, the next year, February.
Two, three months later.
Yeah, it's just, like I said, I've had a few conversations with Doc, see him and pass it a couple of times.
Seems great to me.
Obviously, I had Jack, Mark Jackson, on my podcast.
He's great.
Love talking to him.
For me, like I said, a good dude.
We communicate a little bit.
But it's just like I said, and I understand, you know,
people like in the chat said, well, you know,
he said some comments about the alphabet, you know,
the L, B, G, and the T and the Q and the trans and those.
That's not that's not that's not a people.
People have said things about that, that community before and still got job.
Well, they say something about other alphabet, the N, the I, the double, you know what I'm saying?
Yeah. So now come on now. But let's let's let's keep it a stack here.
But it seems to me that you could say some things about some communities and go get a job.
But if you say something about this one, it's a disqualifier.
But is it true that the owner is in that is in that alphabets, the owner of Golden State?
I don't know who in it. He might be,
but he probably in the community that
they only have three levels.
Yes.
He in that group.
But I don't think he's, I don't think, like I said,
I don't, like I said, Gil,
people in the comment, I'm just commenting what they're
saying in the chat. I don't know.
I don't know. I don't, like I said, I haven't heard.
I don't know. You know, you. Like I said, I haven't heard. I don't know. You hear things
about the religion and he was leaving
here and coming down here to his church
and he was doing all that. I don't know
what's true and what's not.
But it's just hard for me to
believe unless it's
something a Greek, like, because
I did, I want to know, so what's
the disqualifier from
you ever getting a job again?
Who knows?
Man,
they're just recycling these
coaches.
When does it...
We've seen what he did with a young group.
He got them the confidence
and we've seen what they did with a young group, right? He got them the confidence and we've seen what they turned into, right?
We can say he was the building blocks of Golden State's success.
Mm-hmm.
And you keep hiring people who's showing you that they cannot steer the boat.
Right.
Championships, right?
You won a championship in Boston,
right? Had all this talent come in and Kevin
Garnett and he fueled these
guys to win. But that was a veteran
ball club. That was Paul Pierce and
Ray Allen and even though Rondo
was younger.
But like you said, but this is a veteran
ball club too. So it might work because
you got Lillard and you got Giannis and you got Chris Middleton and you got Lopez and you got Bobby Portis.
But you don't have the star power you had on that Boston team and you was barely getting out of the first round.
You went, you was eight and six in the first two rounds.
I mean, you lost all road games.
You was 0-6 on the road your first two rounds. You means you lost all road games, you was 0 and 6 on the road
your first two rounds.
You couldn't win a row,
you're supposed to be this high
powered coach and you got this high
power team 66 and 16 and you can't
win a role game against the AFC.
Sometimes it says something about
you, you are buckling under
pressure on your rotations,
on your subs, on your subs.
Like, you do not, he does not, he does not adjust well.
You're three and one.
Whatever got you three and one, you hold on to it.
Like, you the person that says, have you ever played back a rat?
No, no, I never played back a rat. I know.
Okay, shit, you play. You play roulette?
Nope.
Blackjack and craps.
Craps, right?
Yes.
Yep.
It's like somebody, you're getting full, and you're going to stick with full every single time.
Right.
Right?
That's what he's sticking with the same thing every single time.
They've adjusted to what you were doing, now they won.
Are you gonna adjust to them?
No, we're gonna keep doing it the same way.
And you wonder why you keep losing.
You are the worst adjust, you're too cool.
You're too cool.
You're cool.
When you was in the bubble and y'all was up 3-1.
Yep, this is true. You're cool. When you was in the bubble and y'all was up 3-1. Yep.
This is true.
Kawhi Leonard said,
man, if you don't win this,
you done.
Because he came in talking about his golf score.
Wow.
This is game seven.
You over here talking about
how you shot on the golf course?
And then
already talking to Philly.
Hey, yeah, I'm about to get fired.
Y'all looking for a coach?
We put a poll up, Gil.
Who should the Bucs have hired?
18% said Doc.
82% said Mark Jackson.
82%. listen.
82%. The dude you fired,
what I'm saying is the dude you fired
is 30 and 13.
I don't give a shit who likes him.
He has us 30 and 13.
We don't have no problem right now.
Right.
We don't have no problem right now. Right. We don't have no problem right now.
Because what is Doc coming in and doing anyway?
What is he going to do?
Let's just be honest.
You're coming in in the middle of the season right now.
Oh, all right, go coach Bucks.
What do you really know about them like that?
Right.
Nothing.
You're just looking at your assistant coach.
Who should I sub in?
What's the sub in patterns?
Right?
You're listening to the
assistant coach right now
anyway until you fire him
and bring in your own staff.
Right now,
you don't know these players
like that.
Right.
So you're not really
doing nothing anyway.
Go out there,
roll the ball.
Y'all just damn
do what y'all do.
I'll figure it out
on the fly.
It just, it was, roll the ball, Giannis Dame, do what y'all do. I'll figure it out on the fly. It's bad.
The resume
speaks for itself. If you want
to look at the things you want to look at, then
that's fine. But the resume says
Game 7, you bet your money
against them.
True.
True.
True. Yeah, true. True.
So, Jack, Mark, I know you're going to stay prayed up,
but keep praying, bro, and hopefully, you know,
somebody gives you another opportunity to be a head coach again
because I think you're very, very deserving.
Grant Hill says Draymond's suspension was the reason for Team USA omission.
Is that fair?
Does Draymond deserve to make Team USA?
No, hell no.
He's not supposed to make USA.
No, no, no.
No.
So in other words, G. Hill said, you know, he got suspended. In other words, so we're going to use the suspension
instead of saying Draymond was not worthy
of being on one of the, what is it, 24, 28 players
that's eligible for Team USA.
They got 41 players.
41 players? Oh, my bad.
Damn, my bad.
They brought down half the NBA in that, man.
I don't know what they're doing over there.
But it's only 12.
Yes. But Draymond, listen, Dr. I don't know what they're doing over there. But it's only 12. It's only 12.
But Draymond, listen, Draymond ain't
going to goddamn Paris because he choked
out one of the country
Rudy Gobert.
Yeah, because they might want to
do something bad to him over there.
They're going to pack him out out there, man.
You from the French side of Compton, Rudy Gobert's like,
yes, come on over here, Draymond.
Hey, man, Draymond. Hey, man,
Draymond better not walk into Paris.
Hey, USA ain't that damn dumb
bringing Draymond Green after he done did
what he did on national TV.
Yeah, nah, this is, hey,
you can do that in America, but you go get your
ass whooped over here in Paris, boy.
Yeah, it would definitely probably been a distraction with Draymond in Paris,
given what he did to Rudy Gobert.
All-star starters will be announced Thursday.
The Western Conference, I'm going to do the top.
I'll do the top five.
We'll do top six.
LeBron leaves with almost 4,000 votes.
Nikola Jokic is second with 3,500
votes. Kevin Durant is third
with about
34,000
votes behind. A little over
33,000 behind Nikola Jokic.
Anthony Davis is in fourth.
Kawhi Leonard is in fifth.
And Alperine Sungreen
is sixth
and then
that's the front court and then the guards
you got Luka, Steph
Shea Gilgis, James
Harden, Kyrie
and Anthony Edwards
so who's your
Devin Booker is in ninth place
so who's your
obviously
right now Devin Booker is in ninth place. So who's your start?
Obviously right now if it holds true
LeBron, Nikola Jokic,
Kevin Durant, those are your
starting frontcourt. Luka and
Steph Curry would be your starting
backcourt.
We did it on Wednesday.
We don't need Thursday
to say this goddamn list.
Okay.
And it seems like Anthony, I guess, Anthony Davis, probably Kawhi, would be too reserved for the frontcourt.
Now, Shea Gilgis, the thing is, your backcourt.
James Harden's in fourth
Kyrie's in third
Anthony Edwards is having an outstanding season
he's in sixth
Devin Booker having an outstanding season
he's all the way in ninth
see the problem is when you go
to the coaching
oh yeah that's a puzzle right there
because they don't go by that list no more
so you want to be a starter because once it gets to the coaches
you do not know what the metrics is right so um right you're gonna take anthony we know shay
we know shay's gonna be one and we don't know who the other guards gonna be but he's gonna
be the first reserve it's gonna be Shea and Fox. Over Book and
Anthony? For coaching, you're averaging
damn near 28, 29,
30, and your team is winning.
Yeah. The coaches are going to have him
in. So they're going to have Fox and him as those
two guards. So they'll have Fox
and Shea as the two guards.
And then now there's only one more guard
because from there you have to have
Anthony Davis,
Kawhi.
Kawhi.
Anthony Edwards.
So that's it.
So you're saying LeBron, Nikola Jokic, Kevin Durant, Anthony Davis, Kawhi Leonard.
That's five.
Luka, Steph, Shea Gilgis, Ant-Man, De'Aaron Fox, that's 10.
So we got two more.
You did another.
Are we taking a big?
Are we taking Sungoon, Paul George, Sabonis, Wimbinyama, or Chet?
It's hard for one of those rookies to go because that's got to be reserved.
That's for Jordan.
That's for Shaq. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Those type rookies to go. Because that's got to be reserved. That's for Jordan. That's for Shaq.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Those type rookies.
LeBron didn't make the all-star game with a rookie.
KD didn't make the all-star game with a rookie.
So I like to – like when a rookie makes the all-star team,
Michael Jordan made the all-star team.
Yeah.
That's got to be special.
Yeah, you got to have – You got got to be special. You got to be
a monster.
You got to be almost
I'm 100%
Hall of Famer when my career
goes up.
But it's going to be
interesting.
Fox Ant, Kawhi,
AD
It's 12, right? 12. A.D.
What is this?
It's 12, right?
12.
So it's off the bench.
It's Shea, Fox, Ant-Man, Kawhi, A.D.
Book.
Because remember we had this conversation?
I said, Gil, I think Ant-Man is the next guard off the bitch after Shea because of their record.
Yeah, but see,
they're going to get booked.
Who's in first place?
Luka?
No, who's in first place
in the West? Right now
it's the OKC Thunder
by percentage points over
Minnesota.
So they might put Cat in.
Cat ain't even on the list.
Cat, not it. I mean, because what
happened is usually the number one team
always got about two to three people in it.
Right. So because of winning,
they're going to have Cat.
Okay.
Because if you need another big, because you have LeBron,
Yoke, KD,
AD, Kawhi.
Because let's
go to the front court of the East.
Giannis is first with over
4.3 million.
Joel Embiid,
Jason Tatum, Jimmy Butler,
Jalen Brown,
Christoph Pazingas.
Guards, Tyrese Halliburton is hurt,
so he's not going to play.
Trey Young, Dame Dollar, Donovan Mitchell,
Tyrese Maxey, Jalen Brunson.
Okay, Giannis is obviously a starter.
Joel is a starter.
And Jason Tatum is going to start
because they're 2.5 million
over the next guy so those are the three starters okay now Jimmy Butler how many games has Butler
played this so the guards is going to be Tyrese and Trey as starters right and because uh if
Hallen Burton don't play then he'll be subbed out and they'll probably put Dame.
Dame.
Okay.
Right.
So it'll be Trey and Dame if Tyrese doesn't come back.
Right.
Right.
So now you got Donovan Mitchell, Tyrese Maxey, and Jalen Brunson.
Those should be your three reserve guards for sure.
Who you got?
You got Brunson, Brunson.
Yeah.
Brunson, Maxie.
And who?
Tyrese Maxie.
And yeah, so Brunson, Maxie.
Who was the other one?
Donovan Mitchell.
Damn, Donovan don't get no love. Who was the other one? Donovan Mitchell. Damn,
Donovan don't get no love.
Right now, I'll probably go with...
Because he's fourth in the
voting behind Dane. Yeah, but the
voting don't count, so I will go with
probably Brunson,
like my 52,
Brunson, and probably
Donovan Mitchell. Okay.
So those are probably my two guarantees.
And then Max would be that swing man as the third.
Okay.
So who's going to, after Tatum, you like Jimmy Butler?
After Tatum, you might as well just pick anybody, goddammit.
For real, though.
I mean, truth be told.
Because you got Jalen Brown, you got Jalen Brown, Christoph
Porzingis, Bam Adebayo,
Paulo Banqueiro,
Julius Randle, Mikael Bridges.
So what is going to happen is
they're going to put Jalen Brown
and Porzingis in it.
True. Right.
They're first. So there'll be
it'll be those two in there.
Julius Randle,
I mean, he might because he's the big
and there's really not...
But if you take Giannis and B, Tatum,
Butler, Brown, Przingis,
that's six.
I don't see Butler.
I don't really either.
He's not playing well.
I mean, he's, I don't, you know.
But he hasn't played a bunch.
I know.
So I don't really see him.
But I think you and I are in unison with the guards.
Halliburton, Trey Young, Dane, Mitchell, Maxie, Jalen Brunson.
Yeah.
Okay.
Yeah.
Like the only problem, the only thing that's going to hurt one of those other three is if Tyrese plays.
If Tyrese plays, then it'd be Tyrese and Trey.
And then you have Dane.
And it's hard not to put Brunson in there.
Yeah, he got to be.
I mean, he's gotten his position.
He is the all-star.
I'll have him before Randall,
but Randall's going to make it because of the frontcourt people.
They don't have a strong frontcourt.
frontcourt people.
Those for the strong frontcourt.
I just hope they play
better than what they've been playing
because that ain't no basketball.
Yeah.
They just, I mean, come on.
They're getting almost 200 points, Gil.
Come on now.
Man, to be honest,
I was there in real time.
I played three of them.
The first one I made,
just like that
shooting contest,
I was Bambi legs.
I'm not even going to lie. I didn't even want to be subbed in.
I was so happy.
Don't sub me in, coach.
I might run around and fall and hit my face.
I was so giddy out there, man.
Couldn't control my legs.
Most of the guys who were there for the first time, they're just so giddy out there, man. Couldn't control my legs. Most of the guys who were there
for the first time, they're just so happy to be there.
The older guys,
you know,
it's rest.
Most of these guys are just trying to get that extra
energy, that rest.
This is the place where you want
the accolades, but you don't want
the performance.
I want the allolades, but you don't want the form. Yes, yes, yes.
I want the all-star nod without actually playing in the game because I don't want to get hurt because I want to get ready for the rest of the season.
Right.
So it's really hard to make the game serious.
It's only going to be serious at the end when somebody's trying to win the award or someone's trying to win the game for the bonus.
Yeah, you're right.
It's an all-star.
I mean, it's fun.
This is supposed to be a fun event. That's why I said
they need to start adding
more. They need to start adding a one-on-one
competition. Get rid of that
skills crap.
I like skills.
You don't like skills?
What is it?
Dribbling around,
throwing it in a hole,
you know,
throwing some cones.
I don't.
What does that mean?
Well, you got,
well, you got the,
well, you know,
you have the one,
the one female of the city and then you have
two other players
and then they have the,
you know,
the layup
and then you have
the free throw,
the three-point shot,
the half court.
I like that.
Give me one-on-one. Put this like that. Give me one-on-one.
Put this as a one-on-one tournament.
Man, ain't nobody going to want to play.
You crazy as hell.
All the trash they be talking.
You put a one-on-one grand prize,
100, 200 grand.
And guess what you're going to have?
You ain't going to have none of the starters
and you're going to have the same thing
you got in the slam dunk competition.
You're going to be getting somebody out of the G League playing one-on-one. You're going to have. You ain't going to have none of the starters and you're going to have the same thing you got in the slam dunk competition. You're going to be getting somebody out
of the G League playing one-on-one.
You're going to have Kevin Durant.
I bet you Kevin Durant ain't going to play
no one-on-one. You're going to have Tatum.
You're going to have all...
One-on-one is pride.
One-on-one. One-on-one
for scores is like
a damn near MVP. That's bragging
rights. Bragging rights, that's like,
not even, I don't even know what
it is in football, but
this has no team involved.
This is I'm fighting for my name on
my back.
This is one on one mano a mano.
I can win this award every year. I'm fighting for my name on my back. This is one-on-one, mano y mano.
I can win this award every year.
Like Jordan got six dunk champs.
I got six one-on-one champs.
Nah, they need to do it like they had in the bubble.
Have a horse or a pig competition.
Nah, man.
Nah, one-on-one.
Check up.
Check up.
Ain't nobody checking that. Hey, the starters ain't gonna do that
you're crazy
the one on one players the Jama Rans
man they don't play one on one
but here's the thing
it usually
for the most part all the competition
guys were involved in the
three was like you had to be in the
all star game with the exception because
most of the time a lot of the guys were in like the dunk contest competition guys they to be in the all-star game. With the exception, because most of the time, a lot of the guys were in,
like the dunk contest competition guys,
they were actually in the game.
But yeah, there ain't nobody in the game.
But see, the dunk contest,
see the dunk contest,
there's guys that belong in a dunk contest
that probably don't even get to play and stuff, right?
Yes.
They pick who they want in the dunk contest
versus just picking the best
dunk contest guy. So
there's guys that's on benches that got the
48, that got those type of dunks.
That's who they need to get. In the NBA,
same thing with the three-point contest,
right? This is not about percentage.
Just go get the best
three-point shooters.
But here's the thing.
Because remember with the dunk
contest, you had the Dr. J's.
You had the Michaels. You had
the Dominiques. You had the Clyde
Drexler. You had the guys.
You had the names.
Now, man, you don't know these guys,
Gil.
Let's go. If you want to
rewatch those names,
those dunks.
They were names, but
Dominique did
how many dunk contests? Three?
No, he did more than that.
He did like four or five.
So that means he had
about 20 dunks?
16 was windmills.
16 was windmills. When. 16 was windmills.
When we went up there, we go, oh, okay.
He going windmill.
Okay, one-hand windmill.
Okay, from the middle.
All right, he going to go to the side.
Oh, windmill from the side.
Oh, he going to go from the other side on the baseline.
Oh, the guys have definitely got more creative.
Oh, absolutely.
But still, they want to see a name.
Be creative. That's the they want to see a name. Be creative.
That's the problem because here's the thing.
I mean, when you really think about it, the Kobe Dunks and the Jordan Dunks,
if we put them in the scheme of thing, like Levine, like Aaron Gordon,
like Vince Young, what are we talking about?
Yeah. But it's talking about? Yeah.
But it's called evolution.
No killing.
But even then, when they were doing
their dunks then in real time.
Yes.
Those were great dunks at the time.
No, I did the 88 dunk contest.
Otis Smith, first dunker,
he did a 360 wing meal, got a 42.
Someone did a two-hand dunk, tapped it on his back, 46.
It's like, what rigatoni is going on here?
Right.
The hardest dunk was first
out of 42.
Every dunk after that was higher.
Like, yo, stop this, man.
This is ridiculous.
But like you said,
when it's not judged fairly,
dunkers decide
they don't want to participate.
No, no.
Because once Aaron Gordon had too many historically great dunks
not to have won one contest.
I don't give a damn what anybody says.
And part of my language, he's had too many great dunks.
You can't have that many 50 dunks and say, well, he didn't win any of the competitions.
Sometimes you just go against a't win any of the competitions.
Sometimes you just go against a better dunker at the time.
But at that dunk contest,
even though we're like, he is dunking great,
no one said Zach Levine shouldn't have won with his dunk repertoires. Aaron Jones should not have beat Aaron Jones.
Yeah.
I'm sorry.
I mean, yeah, true. He shouldn beat Aaron Jones. Yeah. I'm sorry. I mean, yeah, true.
He should have won.
Yeah.
And you remember they had Sean Kemp.
Wait, wait, wait.
He lost to Derrick Jones.
He lost to Zach Levine and Derrick Jones.
So Zach Levine got two, right?
I think, yeah.
And then Derrick Jones beat him.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
That's dope.
Yeah, I forgot.
Like you said, remember what you, we had a conversation.
If you give Levine and Aaron Gordon coke, are you mad?
No.
Aaron Jones, Aaron, excuse me, Aaron Gordon, the dunks are too creative, too great for him not to have won one award.
Yeah.
Sometimes, listen, sometimes when you can't make a decision, it's okay saying, you guys are both the winner.
Right?
Yes.
The grand prize is $100,000.
Okay, God damn it. We got you $100,000 and we got $100,000. Okay, goddammit.
We got you $100,000 and we got $100,000.
Nah, hell nah.
You get $50,000, you get $50,000.
The grand prize is $100,000.
We got two winners, you got $50,000.
Hey, hey, y'all the NBA, goddammit.
Hey, I didn't tell you.
Hey, listen.
I did my dunks to win this motherfucker
by myself.
I didn't tell you to split it up.
So don't split my check up.
Yeah, oh yeah.
All right, well then keep ducking.
Hey, you'll get tired.
You'll be shooting threes.
Oh, my God.
You're right about that.
Morrison Gortat says NBA players get away with dirty tricks.
Gortat reveals some of the crazy things that players get away with on the court.
They would do a lot of things.
When people box out, they would try and grab your balls and squeeze it.
I swear to God, they do crazy stuff.
Imagine your first reaction like, dude, what the hell?
You smack and then you're attacking the guy,
but the referees most of the time don't see it.
The first move, just a reaction when you're effed, you're cooked
because he sees your reaction.
Or on the pick and roll, Chris Paul would grab your leg
or he would punch you in the nuts.
Dudes do that all the time. That's
why you do this during screen
is that you cover your nuts to make sure
that you lift your weight. You lift weight
so your body armor is strong.
Y'all be doing stuff like that,
Gil? Nah.
Nah. Those are called dates but he's right about that
he's right
when you set the screen you gotta hold
because they'll run through that
arms gonna run through the ass
you got players like that
right
so that's why y'all be doing that
huh yeah you got dirty players like that uh i used to close line i mean not close line but i
used to clip i'd be running ref ain't looking oh i clip oh i took the back of your foot let it hit
the other one right oh yeah that i did that a few times I did that to Carmelone
He almost put the hammer on me
And then I did that to Dallenberg
And I don't know what kung fu move he hit me with
Oh boy
I was running down the lane
Boom
I just fell out of my house
Would you get a
Plaguer 1 or a Plaguer 2?
They didn't call nothing What? They didn't call nothing.
What?
They didn't see it.
That's what I said.
I don't know what ninja kung fu black belt he had with him in his training,
but he hit me.
The ref didn't see it.
My head went back.
I had to sit on the thing.
Wait, hold on, ref.
They're going to have to play four and five right now. Somebody
hit me hard. I had to go back to the
replay to see what happened.
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Gil, you told a story to Paul George that you wore MJ's orthotics with the Wizards.
What was it like following the MJ era?
Because you, we look, I don't care what anybody says.
Everybody explained meeting MJ the same way.
He doesn't seem real.
He's mythical. I'm not the same way. He doesn't seem real. He's mythical.
I'm not the only one. Hell, I thought
I was the only one because I'm not
in the sport and I'm not as big
as some of the guys that are
seeing the Allen Ironsons, the Shacks,
LeBron,
a lot of great basketball
players saying meeting
him, he doesn't seem, he seems like
he's levitating and that's what you
had to follow because i'm sure people a lot of people in the organization i shouldn't say a lot
i'm sure some held him in very high regards although the owner mr polian probably didn't
you know you know what it is it was the pressure the pressure wasn't as high as it should have been, I think, because they didn't make the playoffs.
Right. Right. They won 37 games.
The taste that was left in the organization.
Right. It wasn't a feel good.
organization, right?
It wasn't a feel good. So when I went there to talk to
Mr. Copeland, and this is why when
I got hurt, he gave me 111,
when everyone told him no, right?
He said, if you get me out of this
Jordan bonanza, because they didn't
think they were going to sign
a big free agent, right?
So I was the second biggest free agent that year's lamar odom didn't mean
so when i signed it was like a big deal oh my god we got one because we thought like that what
happened with jordan nobody was going to come here right um you know my dad first question my
dad asked why because he's a jordan fan what why why j Jordan here why is he not owning the team so Mr. Poland had to
tell him you know
how the team felt and all that so
when I got there
there was no pressure
because we were so young
so no one expected anything
right you know we
played we got to really like
fail
and I think the second year
when I really
got in that gym
and trained my ass. I didn't go home.
I sat in that gym and really
perfected
a weapon of choice.
Understanding
the playbook. Understanding
my teammates. Understanding the coaching.
Looking at game film. Looking at the playbook. Rewriting the playbook. understanding my teammates, understanding the coaching, looking at game film, looking at the playbook, rewriting the playbook.
I spent the whole summer trying to figure out how to be great in this new system.
Calling Larry, hey, what do you think about moving this way? So me and Larry,
sitting in the coach, coach sitting in the back, redo it, okay? I had the whole playbook.
Damn it, 300 plays, you can scrap this, this, this.
We don't have the type of player.
Then they make a trade,
got Antoine Jamison in.
Like, oh, wait, hold on.
Give me back those plays
because we got ends.
Now that can change shit up.
Right.
And we got off to a start,
and I don't think the city
was ready for it
because they didn't have
no expectations for us.
So when we made the playoffs,
I became a folk hero.
Right. Right? We didn't suppose we made the playoffs, I became a folk hero. Right.
Right?
We didn't supposed to make
the playoffs for damn near
2006, 2007.
And we made it in 2004, 2005.
Right.
So, you know, from there,
that swing of turning
the organization around,
the city just loved it.
Right.
Upgrade King asked, are the Lakers
a couple of 40-42% three-point
shooters away from the NBA Finals?
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What are the Lakers? How do
the Lakers get out of
the crowded West to the NBA
Finals? What do they need?
What is one thing? If you say, you know what?
I'm the general manager. I'm Rob
Palenka up until the trade
deadline. What does
Gil do to
help the Lakers? Doesn't guarantee
no guarantees, but what do you think
the Lakers need in order to make a deep
run to the playoffs and possibly get to
the finals? Right now,
D'Angelo's playing very well.
This is what you hate during
trade deadline, when a guy turns
it on. Something that you've been expecting him to do
from the beginning, he turns it on right now
averaging about 27-6-5
in the last five games.
It's like, ah.
You know what I mean?
D'Angelo playing like he don't want to leave. in the last five games. So it was like, ah. You know what I mean? Oh, D-Lo played.
D-Lo been balling that five games.
D-Lo played like he don't want to leave.
Yeah.
Right?
Other than that, you just need another player.
You need another player you can count on.
That's why I said if we can make a trade
and get Deontay here without losing our starting five, that would help.
But to give away a starter plus this and some draft pick, I don't see how that-
I don't see that.
That doesn't help.
Yeah.
It doesn't.
I agree.
We need to add him to our roster, and that still is not enough.
Right.
I think what we really need is called next year.
Next year.
Who do you need next year?
Florian Carlos Suba.
Fuck it, Agent Zero.
If Kobe wins 2004-08, would have seven rings.
Is he considered the GOAT?
I don't think so.
Not with one MVP.
And that's...
But so,
y'all have him at one MVP.
The NBA players,
we got him at three.
No, but you can.
I just go by what I see.
So how many you got Jordan at?
Nine, 10.
How many you got LeBron at?
First note, how many you got Shaq at? 9, 10. How many you got LeBron at? First note, how many you got Shaq at?
Yeah.
Think about it.
When we talk about MVPs,
when you really look at history,
you look at
like, wait,
who got an MVP
when Jordan was playing right who will if his team was
number one he led the NBA in scoring how did y'all give it to someone else right it's that you know
we're so tired of him winning and doing this we got to give it to someone else to make it look like
everyone's great right and you know that's why I why I said sometimes it's so hard to look at these
for what it really is because it's not what it is.
It was jaded.
It was biased intentions.
So, you know, like, yeah, Jordan got six, but not really.
You know, he had whatever year he came in from 88, 89 to when he retired in the two years, that was MVP him.
Right.
He got the best record with the best team.
He was the best player, leading everything and scoring, leading everything.
How he's not winning.
Come on.
Right.
Yeah, but like you said, they just get tired.
Sometimes they get tired of voting for you.
It's like, hey, we got to give it to somebody else yeah but kobe with one no he got he got legit three
jabari robertson asked how can you be in the gold conversation if you lost more finals than you won
outside of mj and kobe three peated with shack and almost did it without well lebron almost
three peated because in miami they won two and then lost to so we don't do almost.
We don't do almost.
this is what I'm on right now.
And I'm going
to keep preaching it.
When we're talking about resumes
and
whoever your goat is, whoever you think should
be in it, focus on their
resume.
Don't tell me what someone else's resume is.
Don't tell me, oh, this guy went to the finals 10 times but only won four.
Who are you like?
Then tell me his resume.
Stop telling me everybody else what they didn't do or what they can't do.
Okay, I like that.
Just lay everybody's resume down and we go from there.
I do not care about who Jordan played in the finals
and how sorry he was. How many rings he got?
Six. Okay, six finals,
six rings, ten titles, ten
nicks. That's it. I don't want to hear
what he didn't do.
What he couldn't do.
That is irrelevant.
We don't do that in no parts of life.
When we go to the workplace,
when we go to the workplace and
we're talking about our...
That job, you don't say, well, my real estate
better than he is.
Yeah, mine look better.
Look what I got, look what he got.
Look where I went to school at.
We're just presenting our
case for ourselves.
That's all we need to do.
When we're sitting here debating, and whoever you have, just debate your facts on why he should be good.
Let that person debate why he should be good.
Going back and forth, you focus on why my guy shouldn't be the GOAT.
That is pointless.
Not with me.
I got to debate Stephen A.
And my guy's still the GOAT, Stephen A.
So I know you're watching.
So I'm standing on that.
Tell Stephen A, you talk about your guy and only his stats.
Don't look over here.
Let me defend on my stats.
Don't tell me. Like, if I say four championships, Stephen A, don't look over here. Let me defend on my stats. Don't tell me.
If I say four championships, Stephen A,
don't you say he was there ten times.
Four championships, that's all you need to know.
Which was four times more to your guy.
Samuel Griffin
asked, should LeBron's
hesitancy to
enter the dunk contest affect his status
as a GOAT contender? No!
Listen.
Why?
The reason he didn't enter the dunk contest,
because he don't have dunk packets.
No!
He got, hey, what you want to do?
Just jump from far, pull it out like here?
Ah!
Exactly.
You want to do this?
Right, that's it.
That's it.
Right, you know, Dunking on people ain't
dunk contest things unless you're going to have
people jump and try to block
it and he get to dunk. There's just some
people who don't have creativity
in there.
To be a great dunker, you got to have imagination.
Yes.
The dunks that
when Ben Carter broke those dunks out, I'm like
what the
and when Aaron Gordon
who takes the dunk off the mascot
sit in the chair and dunk
the ball
that's what I'm saying like it
or go behind his head
come on
that's what I'm saying
like that's not what his
he can jump from far.
He can dunk and jump high.
Dunk contest is about being flexible
and understanding how to move in the air.
Yes.
Something he didn't have.
And then those guys, you need to be like,
the shorter the guy, the better the dunk looks.
It's the lanky guys
who can twerk their bodies
I mean Aaron Gordon was a big
broad guy but for him to be
able to contort his body like he did
yeah you're right
I mean that's crazy
it's fun I mean come on when are we going to
ever see another 5-6 guy
with a dunk contest
but listen the dunk spud does we gonna ever see another 5-7 or 5-6 guy with a dunk contest, Gil?
But listen, the dunk Spud does versus the 5-6 guys today,
it is two different dunks.
But see, here's the thing.
But Spud wasn't missing dunks.
I mean, Robinson,
Nate Robinson missed like 15
dunks. He missed 15 to make
one. You know, the year
Spud won,
it was destined for him to win. dunks. He missed 15 to make one. You know, the year Spud won,
it was destined for him to win.
He beat Dominique.
Yeah. And the matter of fact, it was in Dallas.
Yeah, it was because every dunk he did,
it went in. It actually went in.
There was no... It was his time.
And we had never seen... Gil, we had
never seen a guy that small
get up that high.
And he had to bounce the ball off the floor.
He had to bounce the ball because with them little hands he had
to try to take the ball up there with one hand and dunk it.
And what's going to happen, Gil?
That little baby hand like this here.
Man, he needs a softball to be able to dunk it
and cuff it like the other guys would do it.
They should have changed the ball for him.
Yeah, man, he needed a Nerf basketball, man.
He wasn't going to be able to take an NBA basketball up there.
So he had to bounce it off the floor.
He had to throw it off the backboard.
But still, Gil, did you see how high that man was
up in the air? Not for real.
They said that ball was heavier than him, boy.
If you'd have tried to take it.
That's funny.
The VA 804
baby said, hey, handsome Gil, what do you think
of Matt McClung in the 23-3 dunk
contest? That dude was doing the doggone
thing. He was.
He won.
He won.
He deserved to win.
I don't know if you knew him in high school, but as a high school dunker,
if they did a vote of in-game dunking, the best in-game dunker in high school.
He's one or two.
Really?
Arguably, he's one.
Because the dunks he did in the dunk contest, he was doing in-game on people.
Like the stuff he was doing, you're like, wait, hold on.
How tall is he, Gil?
I don't know.
Never seen him.
But I know he's January 6th.
Capcom.
He's a Capcom.
I like the idea that
even though he's
not in the NBA,
he gets to defend his title.
Yeah. They gave him an
opportunity. Yeah, I like the NBA, the fact
that they did that. So I hope it
opens it up for more opportunities of outside guys who have these jumping abilities that come into that contest to give the world another look.
You know, it's like giving hope.
You know, it's a whole thing. And I think the NBA needs to realize that these guys might not be able to's sponsored by the NBA itself, they should be
able to enter the dunk contest
to bring us
some new blood.
Seth Potter says, I love this show.
I follow both of you, follow both
of y'all shows.
I was watching Gale's Arena yesterday when
Jenna said women shoot better than men.
My question is, if the WNBA best
shooters versus NBA best shooters, who
wins?
Hey, man,
they getting their ass smacked.
On the court.
Not in real life. On court.
Right here.
Yeah.
I agree.
I definitely think.
If you take the 10
best WNBA shooters
and then take the 10 NBA best shooters,
I think the 10 NBA best shooters are going to win.
I just do.
I ain't talking about dunking.
I'm talking about just shooting.
You know what it is, though?
I asked the coach, I'm not going to say his name,
who coached WNBA.
He said there's one thing about the women's game.
What they don't have is they want to be the best.
All of them want to be the best.
He said, in the NBA, everybody wants to be the GOAT.
They're trying to figure out how to be the GOAT.
The women's game, they're usually
content.
Because they're on the
bricks of playing and
not playing,
going overseas and stuff,
they don't really have the time.
With the NBA,
dudes that sit in the gym six, seven hours.
They don't have their own gym.
There's a lot of things that are handy.
They're making $50, $60 million
and WNBA players,
what's a max player can get? $250?
Where are the Sparks?
If the Sparks was training
right now and they want to go to the gym
at one o'clock in the morning because they can't sleep,
they can't go to the
Staples Center.
They don't have their own arena.
That's the advantage, right?
But as a flat-out shooter, there's some shooters out there that just flat-out can shoot the ball.
Dr. Frankie L. Bellamy, Uncle Gil, Gil, can you share a specific game or play in a basketball or your basketball career that taught you a valuable lesson, either about sport itself or life in general?
It was called. It's called Humble Pie.
I kind of taste it a little bit last weekend, but I didn't really like that one.
So, you know, I just spit that out.
I'm back to talking trash, right?
Right.
But it was Dwyane Wade.
Right.
You know, it was after that Olympics.
They lost in the Olympics.
You know, they put the zone in on them.
So, you know, the season comes up and they start talking about Miami.
Like, yeah, what about Miami?
Nobody cared about no Miami and no D-Wade, man.
We doing what we doing over here.
We just going to put a zone in.
They can't shoot anyway.
Right?
So I forgot about it.
And somebody was like, yeah, you know D-Wade coming to town.
So I was like, oh, that's what's up.
They was like, no, he's on fire right now.
Like he's prepared for you.
So I started looking at his numbers like, oh, no, he has caught a rhythm.
I called this man in his hotel room.
Hey, man, you know these reporters and got everything misconstrued.
You know, you already used that word, misconstrued. That wasn't me.
And I like, whoo, when I seen his eyes in the game.
No, I was saying, hey, use your words, speak to me, say something.
He was on demon time. That was the last time I said anything about a player.
That man molly whopped me my whole career after that.
I think I was 3-13 against the way.
Kenneth McKinnon, hey, big bro, give us a rookie story about Nick.
Because Nick Young was your rookie right?
Nick was my rookie Here's a rookie story
It didn't go in his favor
He got beat up Gil
What?
No it wasn't beat up
But he was shot up
They was playing paintball
and,
and,
him,
no,
him,
Dominique Maguire
and,
Andre Blotch
decided that they were
going to sneak in my house
because I rented,
you know,
the mother of my child.
I gave them
her house. Right. She moved in. Right. So I gave them her house. She moved in.
So I gave them her
so they were just renting that.
So they didn't have to pay no bills.
So they snuck in
and then while I'm asleep taking my
nap, they all shot me with the paintball.
Ah!
Man, they got paint
all over your house, Gil. All over the bed
every day.
But I think he forgot that I have keys to the house he's living in.
Right.
So loaded ice mine.
I put mine in the freezer.
Froze them bad boys.
Went over there.
Went in.
He was sitting on the couch
and let him have it
for at least 2-3 years
his whole back had the warts
of those paintballs embedded
he looked like a leopard when I was done with him
he looked like a leopard
he had to get his back tattooed
because of those scars he put on his back.
See? It starts up,
you can't finish. Hey, don't play with
me like that. Khalil Sports
ASMR.
Hey, Uncle Gil, today's my 26th birthday.
I'd love to receive a happy birthday from two
of you. Also love to see a female
co-host on the pod in the future.
No, unfortunately,
Khalil, that's not going to happen because
what we talk about, we're not going to get canceled.
We're not going to change the way we talk
to be accommodating. So you'll feel
free to get you a
co-host, to get a female, but that's
not going to happen here. I don't want
to parse what I'm saying because
we have a conversation
and we already know how that's
going to end. Oh, I can't believe they said
that in front of her. I can't believe they
did that instead of her. Happy birthday to
you. You get your 26th birthday shout out.
But as long as Shannon Sharp
is the owner and proprietor of
Nightcap, that ain't going to happen, baby.
I'm sorry. So that's that.
Go ahead, Gil. Give her a birthday.
This was the man. It was you
just now. Nah, bro. That ain't going to This was a man. It was you just now.
Nah, bro. That ain't gonna happen.
Gil, we know where this goes. We know where this
going. Everything is not meant
to have a woman involved.
Y'all got... We gotta stop
this notion. Oh, it'll be so great
with a woman. No, no, no,
no, no, no. That's not gonna happen
here.
So if y'all,
if females, and I commend
females for starting their own, I support
them, but that's not going to happen on Nightcap
because we have two
mature, grown conversations.
And the first thing
women, well, they talk like
that in front of her. I can't believe
she let them talk like that when we've
been talking like we've
been talking for the longest yeah so i'm sorry hey if y'all if y'all want to hear women chime in
we answer as many women questions as we possibly can but as long this is ours this is ocho's in
mind when i put this together with him in mind this is what what we're going to do. Now, we had no idea that we're going to
tell the stories that we ended up telling.
And when we first told
the story, I really didn't know how
it was going to be received. Hell, I'm looking at
Ash because, hell, she a female
and she dying laughing.
I'm like, oh, no. Is she laughing?
I'm like, but is anybody... She knows
me, though.
How is... How are the're going to take this?
So, look, bro, I'm that's not I'm sorry.
We're not going to have we're not. Hey, if someone came to me and said, well, Shannon, I have this great show idea with females.
Let me know what you think. Hey, I'll take a look at it. I'll have my team take a look at it.
Maybe we can work something out.
But this space,
unfortunately, guys, is just going to be
just going to be male only.
Hey, I don't
know if your birthday's messed up.
This year? There's always
next year.
Hey, Stephanie Warfield
asks, hey, Shad and Gil, what's your take analysis
on the University of Kansas men's basketball
program having to vacate
15 of their wins from
2018? Do you think the
punishment was fair?
Did they win the national championship in 2018?
I don't know. I don't watch
baby basketball. I'm like,
as long as it ain't a national championship, hell no. I don't care about the win. Hey, I don't know. I don't watch baby basketball. I'm like, as long as it ain't a national championship, hell no.
I don't care about the win.
Hey, I don't know why they're taking wins.
What is the win?
I already got them.
I took $100.
What that got to do with taking wins from me?
What does the money have to do with the winning?
I don't understand why the colleges do that.
It just don't matter, right?
I got a new car. It does not turn into wins. So you're taking the championship. It just don't matter. I got a new car, does not
turn into wins.
So you taking the championship, you taking the range,
you taking the wins.
You ain't alone, you don't take this car.
What was I doing?
If I was cheating in the game to get the wins,
it makes sense. But what I'm doing
outside getting free food, somebody doing my homework
does not lead to wins.
Me getting buckets led to wins.
Right.
Andrea Jordan,
I love the show. I want
to ask, what's your favorite hot cereal?
Oatmeal, cream of wheat, farina?
Never heard of that. Grits with sugar?
See, you done messed it up. Andrea,
you effed it up because
you're talking about putting sugar on grits.
And if you don't put sugar on grits, you put talking about putting sugar on grits. You don't put sugar on grits.
You put butter and black
pepper on grits. You put cheese
on grits.
You
messed around and
effed up a good ass meal.
Talking about putting some sugar
on some grits.
I don't know where it's coming from.
It all depends.
I ate oatmeal every day for 27 years.
From 1993 until 2020 when the pandemic hit, I had eaten oatmeal every single day for 27 years.
And then when the pandemic hit, I eat it periodically.
When I'm at the hotel, I'll order grits.
I mean, excuse me, I'll order oatmeal.
But I grew up eating both.
Obviously, being from the South, you eat oatmeal.
I mean, we used to eat big, big.
It wasn't no like this little thing.
We made, my grandmother made big, big heaping pots
because it was a lot of us.
My aunts ate it also.
And we put butter and sugar on oatmeal.
Man, I couldn't imagine my grandmother watching somebody put some sugar on grits that she made.
What's her name, Unc?
Mary, Mary Porter.
The one who just put that, not...
Andrea.
Andrea, you must be from California, girl,
because I'm sorry.
I done thrown some...
Yeah, you from California. You from the door.
I done thrown some sugar and some...
Hell nah. I put the butter,
I put the butter, the cheese,
everything, spin a little,
I spit a little sugar in that joint.
We put honey on hamburgers out here, man.
Oh, Lord, y'all see.
Yeah.
See, and y'all, every time you go somewhere,
would you like some avocado toast?
Hell no.
Did I ask for avocado toast?
I do exactly what I want.
May I help you?
Hey, let me get X, Y, and Z.
Would you like some avocado toast?
What's that?
I don't remember mentioning avocado toast.
You thought I forgot that?
You thought I came and forgot what I actually wanted to order
as I'm standing to the window.
So you want to remind me about some bull jive avocado toast.
No, I do not want any avocado toast.
She got to be from Cali,
because only Cali people put sugar on everything.
Got sugar, spaghetti.
We put sugar on everything, Unc.
Hey, Unc.
I will. Hey, Unc. I know you know a little about everything we know gill is into battle rap we've seen him battle rap super hot fire are you in the battle rap if so
who you like it you too gill nah i ain't in the battle rap i don't i you're talking about like
like eight mile that kind of battle rap. You're talking about like 8 Mile, that kind of battle rap? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Nah,
I don't follow it like that,
Gil. You don't? No.
That's the thing.
Like, when you ain't
got nothing to do, battle
rapping is the thing, because
it's
strategy, right?
They got to research their opponent.
Right, yeah.
Dive into their life.
And then the best part I like about it is
they got to try to outpour each other, right?
Right.
That's the funniest part.
The poorer you were,
the harder the bar sounds.
Yeah.
Right, you know what I mean?
You was on welfare.
The next person say, I ain't even eat was on welfare you know the next person say I ain't
eat like like you will be
a great battle rap
with how you grew up you will be
a great battle rapper like you know like
I ain't take a hot shower or I ain't
use the bathroom in 18 years
I can't do that
I'm very
I've been very good at live.
People think people were saying they were in the chat.
Like when we,
Ocho and I,
we did the call because you know,
when the kicker missed the field goal and people called him up and gave him
death threats on social media.
So Ocho and I reenacted it and people actually thought Ocho and I had
rehearsed that.
No,
I said,
you know, Hey, somebody come to your job after you mess up and, you know, blah, blah, blah.
He's like, OK.
He picked up on ring, ring, ring.
OK, do that with me.
And so we go through this sequence like we have this skit.
But I've always, always.
And people thought that, you know, Skip and I rehearsed.
No, I have no idea what Skip's going to say.
For the most part, the only time Oo and i talk is when we do this i might send him something same thing with
you and i i might send him something he sends me something but the one thing that i was looking for
i needed someone to not be able to be able to make fun of themselves. Sometimes people think so much of themselves,
they can't make fun of themselves
or they take themselves too serious.
He and I both can make fun of ourselves
when we have fun with it.
But that's the best part about how we do things
is to be able to pick up,
okay, I think this would be great here.
And it works. It works. And that's what you have to have and i don't believe chemistry is something that you have to work on you either
have it or you don't thanks you you either have it or you don't and for me i've always been i've
always been quick-witted i've always been able to think on my feet. And, you know, me,
look, I went to school,
I don't know if you know, Red
Grant, we called him Dirty Red.
Red Grant. He was a
fullback on our team at Savannah State.
Now, he, and we
used to have talent shows. He and a guy
named Bernard Mack, rest his soul,
they were like, we'd have a talent show, and they was like,
you know, they would get up there and they'd tell the jokes.
They'd have like a five minute, a ten minute
set. And they were great.
But when it comes to just
flat-out Joni, I'm going to talk
about what you got on. I'm going to talk about your girl.
I'm going to talk about your car. I'm going to talk about
how you look.
Wasn't nobody seeing me in Savannah State.
Wasn't nobody seeing me in Denver.
Wasn't nobody seeing me in Baltimore. When it just comes to flat-out Joni,
because if you went to an HBCU
and you couldn't Joni,
you just go fight all the time.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
But I'm talking,
as Rick,
when it comes to Joni,
it was me and a dude,
his name,
we call him,
he's a pastor,
not Pastor Ford.
But me and Big Daddy,
just sit around.
Just sit, hey, and we go at it.
When it just comes to flat-out zoning,
I'm talking about just talking about what you got on, how you look, your car.
Ain't nobody seeing me.
Your car?
Yeah.
Ain't nobody seeing me.
I'll just give, can you imagine,
and I just, they just hear samples
of how I go back.
But that was every day
in Denver's locker.
Well,
probably like when I got to like,
probably like my third,
like my,
like 93,
when I kind of like
came into my own as a player
and I wasn't worried
about getting cut.
From that point on,
ask him.
Ed McAfee used to be sitting in my locker room
and just be laughing. I mean, he'd sit across from me.
Rob, oh, we having sessions. I'm talking about
they couldn't see me.
Not with Jonan.
I can tell jokes too now.
I can tell jokes, but I'm talking about just Jonan?
Nah.
Yeah, those are the best people in the locker room.
The guys who can just clear out a room,
talk trash, and just make people laugh.
Oh, yeah.
Oh, that's my thing.
Who else?
Nico asks, what's up?
Okay, Gil, I'm 27, messed up with an older woman.
Any advice on how to get her back?
How much older, Nico?
You're 27.
When she's 40, you got to let her go.
Oh, man, she done put that meal or go Oh man she done put that She done put
She done put
That meal or she put that thing on you
She done put the old snap on
Oh man
She put that snap on it
She got it
It's over
It's over
It's over
Man
Man
Hey
Man I had one of them
I had one of them
I was about 19
Man I was looking forward to daylight
With a flashlight I couldn't find her Gil
she had that thing on me
had me in a chokehold Gil
I've been there
been there
she was doing things
them young girls
ain't even heard of her yet
and I'm all there for it
don't you
don't you
don't you
I come in the house
I come in the house Gil
I say ain't nobody
gonna move with me
don't nobody move with me Gil
oh man she had your boys
man what
man you could drive an 18 wheel up my nose
she had my nose open so why
double bound
that's my nose right there
she had it open
they know how to get a young boy
I can tell you that
and then her husband
let me tell you that back
I tell you that back
I wanted to fight him
I wanted to fight him
I wanted to fight the man about his wife
I'm like hold on
how am I going to be mad at somebody about that
oh man
but it was her fault.
Oh, my God.
Nah.
Yeah, but I'm sorry, Nico.
But, hey, they hard to get back because they not going to listen.
The stuff that you tell them, they've heard it already.
So it's kind of hard
to get them back, Nico.
Well, I mean, for the most part.
She might be the move-down, Nico.
Yeah, she probably done.
She done probably the move-down.
Box for another young man.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
I'm sorry, Nico.
Next time you get your
old one don't mess it up
it ain't good
they break y'all they give you a couple of dollars
they kept a couple of dollars in my pocket
you know the old ones
they warm up the towel at the end
they get you the hot
don't move
that's what I say don't nobody move
they lay there they go in there
get the hot towel, get the
suns, you know, wipe you up.
Yeah.
Them young girls, it's cold. You want something to drink?
Tell me, you thirsty?
Yeah, you know what? Give me
a Coke, okay?
I'm like, well, damn.
Them young girls ain't did nothing.
Nothing. Tell me, you brought me something.
You brought me something. Brought you something?
I showed it. I just gave something. You brought me something. Brought you something. I sure did.
I just gave it to you two minutes ago.
Just gave it to you two minutes ago.
I hope you like it.
I hope you like it.
Them older women, they take care of you, man.
They do you right.
They do you right.
They do you right.
And they looking for somebody, you. They do you right. They do you right. They looking with somebody,
you know.
Mm-hmm.
Yeah, Nico, I'm sorry, man. You're going to be thinking
about this for a while. Yeah, Nico.
I'm sorry. I'm sorry, Nico. I'm sorry.
I hate it
for you, boy, because I know what you're going to do.
I feel your pain.
I ain't telling you something that I don't know.
I'm speaking firsthand. Yeah.
It be what?
I'm about 18, 19.
She about 35.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
35, 36.
Damn, up.
Wait, hold on.
No, no.
No, no, no.
We just, nah. We. No. We just.
No.
No.
We're going to write her name down.
We're going to call on people on her.
No.
Call up who?
Yeah.
Ain't but three people knew about it.
Ain't but three people knew about it.
Now, everybody in the chat know about it now.
What's the next?
No.
It's too late.
Statue of limitation no more.
I don't.
I don't know if she was creepy
or you was creepy.
Both. Okay.
Both.
Both. As long as both.
That's called creepy.
Like I said,
like these young girls, and I ain't
condoning that, like these high school
14-year-olds messing with the
teachers. And these young good-looking... I like how one of the teachers look like that when we in the school, the 14-year-olds messing with the teachers. And these young, good-looking,
I'm like, everyone on the teachers look like that
when we was in school, Gil.
They ain't look nothing like that.
I was just that when I was in school.
Man, them teachers had them horn-ring glasses on.
They was 62.
Oh, my God.
Them out of shape, overweight,
you know, them 1,000-pound sisters.
That was our teachers.
Yeah.
They ain't trying to kill nobody.
They looking to twist your ear and all that.
And I mean, yeah, yeah.
Damn, man.
I wish that was me.
I just want you to know, if you call the people,
I ain't helping with the investigation.
I don't know nothing.
I ain't helping with no investigation, Gil.
Eric Crimms asked,
Shannon or Gil, have y'all had to take
y'all shirt off while y'all were playing on teammate?
What was what?
Okay, Shannon or Gil,
y'all
have had to take...
Oh, hold on.
Hold on.
Shannon or Gil,
have y'all had to take a dump while y'all played
or had a teammate almost during the game?
Nah.
Nah.
I mean, normally guys, like in the game, guys would pee on the sideline.
The trainer would just come hold a bag.
We move in front of a piece of equipment, and we just pee on the sideline. The trainer just come hold a bag, we move in front of a piece of equipment, and we just pee on the sideline.
If it was
raining, the offensive lineman,
guys would pee in their pants. Just go, and
it's wet. You don't know?
But nah, nah, hell nah.
What's wrong with y'all?
Nah.
Guys would just pee on the sideline.
I peed on the sideline a number...
At least
10 times.
On the sideline? Yes.
You just go in the bag.
They just hold the bag and you pee in it.
And the
crowd get to see, we kneeling
down, they don't know.
Oh, wow.
Yeah, I'm saying. But no, no,
hell no. No,
we just run to the back.
Like most of the people before
the games, their nerves kick in.
Whatever Red Bull or any drink they
took in, they're about to run through their body.
So before the game, they're running in the
bathroom. Now, we was in those woods.
I remember them guys had to go to the
bathroom and they come back with no shirt.
They had no toilet paper. They used their
shirt. They used their
shirt, and they come back
and have to work the rest of the day with no shirt on.
But that's
not in the game.
But NBA players
bougie. We had players that wouldn't even use
the restroom at the facility.
But see, that's the kind of
players I'm talking about.
See, I can't
just go anywhere.
Me, personally,
I'd rather go in the woods
than go in the gym.
I'd rather go in the woods
than go in the airport.
You mixed with Bear?
What's wrong with you, man?
Man, nah.
Man, I like to be free.
I take off all my clothes.
I go to the bathroom,
I take off everything I got
and throw it in the floor.
I don't want nothing.
I don't want nothing around my ankles.
I want to be free.
Oh, man.
I'm just like,
yeah, I'm butt naked.
Clothes piled up in the floor.
Like, we had... Y'all up there laughing. I don't know who, I'm butt naked. Clothes piled up in the floor. Like, we had
all of y'all up there laughing.
I don't know who, who, I don't know what.
So I'm the only one that take off
all the clothes to go number two in the bathroom.
I'm the only one.
We not six, Unc.
When we was six years old,
we did.
I think I'll ever laugh.
When we was six, Un six, we did that.
We don't do that as a grown-ass adult.
You're trying to get comfortable.
We're trying to get in and get out.
But see, here's the thing, though, Gil.
That came from when I was growing up.
We had to go in the woods.
So you had to take off all your clothes because you didn't want to get none on your clothes.
So you took off all your clothes.
You put them in front of you.
And you went to the bathroom. So as I got an opportunity to go in the bathroom, I you took off all your clothes, you put them in front of you, and you went to the bathroom.
So as I got an opportunity to go in the bathroom,
I just thought
that was just a natural progression.
I took off all my clothes.
So if I go to the bathroom, I take off
all my clothes and put them on the floor
and I go to the bathroom,
do what I do, put my clothes
back on. I take off
my shirt, my shorts, everything.
I'll get in here like this.
Let me go.
We about to get busy
y'all. Yeah, yeah,
yeah. About to get
busy y'all. Y'all,
this is where
Yeah.
I'll take my age.
Come on.
By the time you get off your clothes
we done finished and got out of there
this man
Gil I'm telling you when I first
I had this one like I would like
I would I don't go to the bathroom
like if we upstairs
I go downstairs
she's like where you going
I'm like I'm going to get something to eat
and I go to the bathroom I don I'm like, I'm going to get something to eat. And I go to the bathroom.
I don't tell her what I'm going to do.
But I have my clothes piled up.
Hey, I'm comfortable.
Come back upstairs.
She's like, dang, I didn't hear you open the refrigerator.
I said, yeah, I just got some cookies or something.
Yeah, but nah, nah, nah, nah, you open the refrigerator. I say, yeah, I just got some cookies or something. But nah,
nah, nah, not in the game.
We ain't got to do no number two, but nah.
I see, hey, somebody,
am I the only one?
I ain't the only one.
I ain't the only one.
Yeah, but no, I take up, no.
I take up everything. Shoes, socks, shirt.
Yeah, I don't got on nothing.
I got to be, I got to on nothing. I got to be free.
I got to be comfortable.
That's funny as hell.
That's funny.
No, I don't fold no clothes.
I just pile them up and down.
Just throw them right there in the pile.
Finish.
Yeah, yeah.
I got to get out of here.
That's funny.
Yeah.
Anthony Crowley said,
older women with kids
really take care of you.
Fact.
Nurturing.
They nurturing.
You need anything,
you know,
hey, you,
oh, yes, yes.
Yeah.
Rub your back with,
hey, yes, I know.
See?
Man, y'all judging.
You know,
when y'all in this chat,
y'all be judging judging y'all be judging
y'all some judging
weird man
weird
I know I ain't the only one
I know I ain't the only one
you the only one
no
no
for one person in there
it's just you
man well I'm sorry no for one person in there it's just you man
well I'm sorry
I'm sorry
I'm going up
I don't need no clothes on
I'm in the bathroom by myself anyway
y'all make it seem like I'm in a
community bathroom
no but look
most people trying to get in
and get out. Are you trying to get
comfortable? I got to get comfortable.
I got to get comfortable. Yeah.
You know, if I really
got to go, I'll be kicking stuff off before I get
there. How are you supposed to sneak up?
Yeah, I'm about to go to the kitchen and you've been down
there 20 minutes.
I come back, look here.
All my homes
got enough bathrooms. We ain't got
to know where everybody going. And then
I got to get comfortable with you first. So, because at first
I'm going to send you on an errand.
Oh, I forgot this. I need this. Can you go
get this? I'm going to send you to Target.
I'm going to send you the whole food.
Then, if I get a little comfortable
to you, then I'm going to start, you know, he's like, we got that.
You sent me to the store the other day to get that.
We still got some of that.
Then I go to the guest house.
So I go out back.
I'm going to go work out right quick.
But you ain't got no workout clothes on.
I'm just going to go.
I'm going to turn the fan on.
I'm going to cut the lights on.
I'm going to set the weights up.
I got a lot.
I can't tell them what I'm actually going to do.
So I go get everything situated the lights on. I'm going to set the weights up. I got to lie. I can't tell them what I'm actually going to do. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So I go get everything situated.
Come on back.
Did I get...
Like, I thought you said you was going to work out.
I said, nah, I just...
I had to get it...
I had to get...
She over here dying.
So, yeah.
And now they know your trick, huh?
Still, yeah.
I'll be comfortable.
Y'all laughing.
I'll be comfortable.
Oh, man. And I got... I keep toilet... I got to tell you, I'll be comfortable. Y'all laughing, I'll be comfortable.
And I keep toilet paper in my car just in case.
Like I said, I'd rather go to the woods.
I'd rather go to – oh, I done been to the woods.
Even when I was in the league, I was going home.
Man, my stomach started bubbling.
I pulled right side of the road in my Mercedes, put them hazards on,
got my gun, ran in the woods dropped the deuce off
you're saying if there was
if the world went to shit
you gonna survive
oh yeah
I go in the woods in a minute
y'all think y'all seen Bigfoot
nah it was my fucking
that would be
I was in the lead.
It would go full side of the road
and go to the bathroom.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Am I the only...
Man, you the only one up.
I guess it's my upbringing.
Yes.
Yes.
Unc have baby wipes.
I keep baby wipes in my...
Yes. Yes. Y'all big nasty. Big nasty. I keep baby wipes in my, yes, yes.
Y'all big nasty.
I bet y'all got skid marks.
Like an airplane stopping on the runway.
That's how skid marks look at your drones.
You're nasty.
Yeah, you better have baby wipes on you at all times.
They talking about why I ain't had no socks.
First of all, I don't even know why I put on shoes
because I'm not going nowhere.
I put on shoes just to match the outfit.
So I didn't put on no socks.
But why y'all worried about my socks?
He don't got clothes on when he doing it.
I'm sorry.
We just about getting judged over here.
Man, they be judging.
Y'all judging. I can't tell y'all
nothing because y'all be judging me.
Yeah, but I
keep baby wipes
in my gym bag. I keep baby wipes
in every bathroom.
There's baby wipes. Yeah.
I'll be having...
I'm not even
out of the house long enough. I'm not even going to lie. I'll leave that. I'll be having, man. I'm not even out of the house long enough.
I'm not even going to lie.
I'll leave that.
I wake up at 6.
I'll leave the house and go to the gym.
I'll sit out there until I got to use the restroom, and then I'll come back home.
But the problem is I don't understand why I just don't sit here until I use the restroom before I go out.
Get on the roof. Get me a coffee. Sit there. Then got to use the restroom before I go out. Get on the roof,
get me a coffee, sit there,
then got to use the restroom. Come all the way back home,
then go back out. If coffee
have the effect, like for me,
milk has that effect on me.
If I drank some milk, like when I go
to the doctor and they say, well, you know, you need to go, you know,
you take all this medicine, you're going to be constipated.
All I got, go give me some chocolate milk and an said, well, you know, you need to go, you know, you take all this medicine, you're going to be constipated. All I got, go give me some chocolate milk
and an apple.
Man, you ought to
solve, man, I had my hip, man,
you ought to solve me hardly.
He's like, where you going? I'm like, I got to
go downstairs. I'm hungry.
Pick up the table.
It's hurting, just stomach hurting.
Man,
man, that medicine came up out of me so quick.
I drank me a glass of that chocolate milk.
It got me an apple.
It was over.
I don't know what the apples for.
I just pretty sure.
Oh, the apple peel?
Man, I can't eat no apple.
What?
Man, that's a laxity.
Chocolate milk and apple is a laxity to me.
Boy, like people say,
coffee has that effect on them.
I don't mess with no apples. If I want
to get...
I don't eat no apples.
I will not eat an apple unless I'm at my
house. Because about 10
minutes afterwards, I got
to go.
If I drink chocolate milk
in five minutes, all I got to do is drink chocolate milk in five minutes,
all I got to do is drink chocolate milk,
start counting.
I can set my phone
five minutes,
my stomach starts...
Oh, man.
Hey.
At least you know how to clean your system.
Oh, yeah.
Oh, yeah.
I already know
I already know what's gonna like
do me in
I don't mess with it
like I see people like eating
lately used to have apples on the plane
I see people I'm like oh no no
oh they be in the sky club
eating them apples
I want no part of it
I don't want no part of no apple
I don't mess with no milk.
Hey, people be eating.
I see, you know,
used to have colds.
They have to have cereal on the plane.
And people be eating it.
I'm like, oh my goodness.
Man, I be tearing the...
Hey, like I said,
I can barely fit the bathroom anyway.
I have my head out the bathroom.
Blood in there,
head out the bathroom.
Everybody be looking,
knowing what I'm doing.
Yeah, yeah.
I'm good.
I already know my system, so I don't fool no apple.
Unless I...
Man, let me go.
I gotta go, man. I gotta go to work in the morning.
Oh, yeah.
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