Club Shay Shay - Nightcap - Eagles-Chiefs, Tom Brady's Comments, Ocho's Destination Wedding

Episode Date: November 21, 2023

Shannon Sharpe and Chad Ochocinco Johnson discuss the Eagles’ win over the Chiefs (3:00), Tom Brady’s criticism of the modern-day NFL (27:00), the Zach Wilson situation at the Jets (44:00), Ocho's... destination wedding (57:00), and more. #Club #Volume #HerdSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:03:17 I'm your favorite sports thunk, Shannon Sharp. He's your favorite. Number 85, Tocho Cinco. Oh, my bad, my bad. Tocho Cinco, not Tocho Cinco. Tocho Cinco. Yeah, bad, my bad. I mean Ocho Cinco, not Tocho Cinco. Ocho Cinco. Yeah, that's fine.
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Starting point is 00:04:41 And you got New Year's Eve. So you got a lot to celebrate and be thankful for. So make sure you go grab your bottle of Shea by LaPortier. The link is pinned at the top of the page. Let's jump right into this ballgame, Ocho. Eagles go into Arrowhead, get a hard-fought victory. 21-17. Patrick Mahomes was 24-43, 177.
Starting point is 00:05:03 Two touchdowns, an interception in the end zone. Conditions weren't ideal. At all. At all. But good teams find ways to overcome weather. They do. They do. I enjoyed the game.
Starting point is 00:05:15 You told me you didn't like it before we started the show. You said you didn't like it. Obviously, I enjoyed the game. I enjoyed the game, especially what the Chiefs were able to do in the first half. What the Chiefs were able to do in the first half defensively, I thought they were going to run away with the game. I enjoyed the game, especially what the Chiefs were able to do in the first half. What the Chiefs were able to do in the first half, defensively, I thought they were going
Starting point is 00:05:29 to run away with the game. I thought they were going to run away with the game. Listen, they brought pressure throughout the first half. The Eagles offensive line looked like they was overwhelmed.
Starting point is 00:05:36 It looked like they weren't even the Chiefs offensive line that we were used to seeing. KC had... You mean the Eagles offensive line? I'm sorry,
Starting point is 00:05:43 the Eagles offensive line. You're good. You're good. The Chiefs had Five sacks in the first half That's more sacks Allowed in one half They allowed An individual game
Starting point is 00:05:52 This season You know We need our boy You know The poster boy The poster child Kelsey He fumbled
Starting point is 00:06:00 You know With 13-21 Left in the game Eagles scored On his soon drive. What happens? They come back. They get the ball with an opportunity to score.
Starting point is 00:06:11 And basically, to me, I think they would have won the game if MV… MVS. MVS. MVS. If he comes up with that catch. You always stated that this game is created by moments. Moments happen in games like this where you could have won the game and it just didn't happen.
Starting point is 00:06:29 It didn't happen. Can I ask you a question? Yes, sir. When that ball went up in the air, do you think he was going to catch that ball? Listen, when I saw the DB, when I saw Roby, and bump and run and not get a hand on Valdez, Marquez Valdez can, didn't touch him, I struck up the band.
Starting point is 00:06:51 You struck up the band. It's like seeing Tyreek with bump and run. Marquez can run. And you sitting up there and don't get a hand on him, I said, that's touchdown. That's touchdown. I knew it wasn't a touchdown. You know why?
Starting point is 00:07:03 How did you not know? How? Because he's a body catcher and it's inclement weather. When it's a body catcher how do they catch the ball in dry weather with their bodies? So you actually think he was going to hand catch that over the shoulder and you know that's the hardest one because you got to
Starting point is 00:07:16 track the ball and so now you got Ocho you know how you do it you got to take all the way to here he's a body catcher but I have a question. Don't you think the weather, the weather plays some type of part with the type of gloves that they use today?
Starting point is 00:07:30 The weather plays some type of part with the slipping off of his hands? That could possibly be. But here's the thing, Ocho. It doesn't matter. If you watch him throughout his career, he catches the majority of the ball with his body. He's jumping up doing this or doing this.
Starting point is 00:07:44 So now when you're asking in Clement Weather to rely on your hands, He catches the majority of the ball with his body. He's jumping up doing this or doing this. So now when you're asking inclement weather to rely on your hands, and now you've got to track the over-the-shoulder to catch is the hardest catch to make. Think about it. What is happening? It's raining. Guess where the raindrops are going? In your eyes.
Starting point is 00:07:59 So now, and you're running. So you've got to steady your eyes, track the ball over, follow it all the way down. And you can see Ochozulis, he hit his hands. Instead of him bringing it in, he got the ball up here. What you think is going to happen if you got the ball up here and you hit the ground, Ocho? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:08:15 It's gone. It's gone. It's gone. Trav, I don't think Trav had a good game tonight. Punch out. All you got to do, I mean, I don't know how you guys did it, but we got a scouting report on all the DBs. He likes to punch the ball out. He
Starting point is 00:08:29 likes to strip from behind. Hey, he can be had on certain things. So we got a scouting report who likes to play bump and run, who likes to play off, who likes to gamble. Does he like to punch the ball out? If you come from behind, guy. We had a scouting report. What's the scouting report on Bradley Roby?
Starting point is 00:08:46 He's a punch-out guy. Yeah. He's a peanut tillman. He's looking to be in front, and he's going to try to punch the ball out. Cap, Trav, whatever, maybe they had the report. He got a little careless with the ball. It got away from his body. Punch out.
Starting point is 00:08:58 You take points off the board because that worst-case scenario, you're going to get a field goal. Field goal, at least. Patrick Mahomes throws the interception in the end zone. Bayard takes up before he even throws the ball because he's staring down Justin Watson. Bayard takes up
Starting point is 00:09:14 before he even throws the ball. Right. And he had just gotten beat previously on that. I think there must have been some miscommunication throughout the secondary and they just got beaten. They came back the very next drive and got an interception.
Starting point is 00:09:29 Yes. And so there are two drives right there that you take at let's just say a bare minimum. You took six points off the board. And remember, kicking field goals, turning the ball over in the red zone, you're going to lose ball games like that. But I was on first check today.
Starting point is 00:09:46 I told Stephen A, what I've seen this year from the Eagles, they'll middle around and don't get it going. But if you leave them in the game, Jalen Hurts will find a way to beat you at the end. They're going to hurt you. He's going to find a way. And the Eagles, remember, I was the one that was concerned early this year about the Chiefs offense.
Starting point is 00:10:04 I told you, Ocho. Now, they got shut out in the second half. They're scoring an NFL-worst 5.9 in the second half. In the second half of games, right. And they just got blank. So that average 5.9 is about to dip. And I told you.
Starting point is 00:10:20 I said, I got concerned, Ocho. I said, well, you talking about Nahum Mahomes. I said, no. At some point in time, he's not even enough to overcome the inadequate play they get from their skilled positions. But this is the thing about it. We talk about Patrick Mahomes, and I said
Starting point is 00:10:35 even with them being blanketed and dubbed in the second half, they won't be seeing a defense like this week to week. How many defenses are they going to see week to week that are that of the Philadelphia Eagles so that's where I say they can overcome it because an other team that they're going to play Patrick Mahomes is going to be able to manipulate dissect and basically be a goddamn surgeon against other teams outside of the Eagles and it might be one of the team that is that is suited very well across the board as far as the roster is
Starting point is 00:11:05 concerned that can compete with them at every spot. I think that also one of the things and give the Eagles credit, they did a great job of adjusting, of doing a better job of protecting Jalen Hurst in the second half. They did a great job of getting the ball out of his hand. They did a great job. LeJarius Knee did an
Starting point is 00:11:21 unbelievable job on A.J. Brown. He followed him the whole game, didn't he? He did an unbelievable job on A.J. Brown. He followed him the whole game, didn't he? He did an unbelievable job on A.J. Brown. And so now you got to go, and that's why you got a Devontae Smith.
Starting point is 00:11:32 So now you're number two all of a sudden has to be number one because they're doing a great job on number one. So now you need Devontae to step up, and he did step up. But if you remember,
Starting point is 00:11:42 there was another play. MVS had it, and there's no safety help. He's one-on-one. I think it's Buckhalter. I think 32. What's his last name? I think it's Buckhalter. He runs a seven route. Why would you
Starting point is 00:11:55 run a seven route instead of a goal? If you notice that Ocho, Mahomes threw him up the field like run and go. Why are you running a seven route with no safety? You're going to let the guy use the sideline because even if you catch the seven route, he's going to push you out of bounds. Why not keep it up the field?
Starting point is 00:12:11 That's something they probably hadn't worked on. I'm so glad you just mentioned that. Let's talk about the play with A.J. Brown that had A.J. Brown and Jalen Hurts on the sideline arguing. It was a hot route. Darius Sneed knew it was a hot route. So what did he do? Even though the split
Starting point is 00:12:28 was condensed and he widened out, he knew the ball had to come out. So what did A.J. Brown do? Oh, Ladarius wanted to cheat and just sit there? He threw up the mailbox like Randy Moss. But it's something that him and Jalen Hurts hadn't worked on so the ball was already gone.
Starting point is 00:12:43 He had to let it go because it was a hot route. I think the chemistry and being together for a long time, I don't know if they have the freedom to do that yet, where he could say, listen, I know a hot route is coming. I know he's going to cheat. I know he's going to sit. I'm going to hold the ball. I'm going to hold the ball a split second longer,
Starting point is 00:13:01 a split second longer and take that hit. But you got to come through for me because that's six points. That's six points. I understand where A.J. Brown was coming from. But again, Jalen Hurts doesn't know that. So he got to get that ball out of his hands. And it ended up being an interception. I get that one, Ocho, because it's a bang, bang play.
Starting point is 00:13:19 Bang, bang, yeah. Look, that's something. Look here. If he jumps it, I'm going to run the sluggo. I'm going to run. Hey, I'm going to jumps it, I'm going to run the sluggo. I'm going to run. Hey, I'm going to fake it and I'm going to hit him over the top. So in a situation like that, you're going to ask Jalen Hurts to just retreat. Just retreat and put it up.
Starting point is 00:13:33 And let it go. Yeah. But in an MVS situation, I should have to tell you that. Right. Bro, ain't no safety in the middle of the field. Why in the hell would you run a seven route instead of a go? Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:13:40 in the middle of the field. Why in the hell would you run a seven route instead of a goal? Yeah. Yeah. That's... But see, Ocho, we think, like,
Starting point is 00:13:50 I mean, a lot of guys, I mean, there was just common knowledge. And MVS has been with... has been with Mahomes. He won the Super Bowl with him last year. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:13:59 This is not like he's a new receiver. Right. He's been there. Right. And that stuff, that should be common knowledge in a situation like that. Oh, they ain't got no safety. Right. He's been there. Right. And that stuff, that should be common knowledge in a situation like that.
Starting point is 00:14:06 Oh, they ain't got no safety. Right. Why would I run a separate, why would I want a 30-yard completion when I can get a 50-yard touchdown?
Starting point is 00:14:12 Yeah, the funny thing about it is anytime they probably ran that concept at a different formations or different salad dressings as I call it, there might have been
Starting point is 00:14:20 a safety there. So every time he has run it, the look has always been for him to run the corner route. And just so happened in this game, the safety might have did something. They had no business and he wasn't there, but he's used to doing it one way all the time and just
Starting point is 00:14:32 wanted to be in the same place. And Mahomes might have been on a different page. Obviously they weren't. Mahomes threw him up the field because Mahomes can see it. What do we say? What makes great receiver a quarterback combination? is the ability to see things at the exact same time the exact same way and be able to just and be able to adjust on
Starting point is 00:14:51 improvise on the fly yes yes yeah we got ocho we've already got 17 000 people in the live and they're donating up a storm asking this question herman cruz donated ten dollars do you believe if the chiefs have actually invested money on a greenery true number one receiver they would be in situations like this um what receiver was available d hop could they have gotten d hop yeah they could have and he would have been tremendous in that offense jesus christ because i need sky more look this is your second year your sophomore you need to take that next. You're a sophomore. You need to take that next step. Darius Toney, you need to take that next step. Right, right.
Starting point is 00:15:29 He can't be so reliant, so dependent. Because if Kelsey has a game like he had tonight, then what do I do? Right. If I put all of my eggs in one basket and I trip on the way to the market, there goes everything, Ocho. And that's what's happened. He's invested so much in Trav. And if Trav ever has an off game, you see how bad it looked.
Starting point is 00:15:51 He was 24-43, 177. Yeah. Again, even with the stat line, I'm still going to use the inclement weather as a reason for it. And I think some of those catches that were dropped tonight are caught if it's a dry game, if it's a dry game. And again, even if they don't have a number one receiver, Patrick Mahomes has two Superbowls, obviously one of them being with Tyreek
Starting point is 00:16:17 Hill. But after that, there still was no true number one where you have to lock in and say, you know what, when the defense comes out the huddle, we have to call our assignments and our adjustments based on where he lines up. They didn't have that and they still won a Super Bowl. So obviously Patrick Mahomes is that good. That's last year, Ojo.
Starting point is 00:16:33 He can overcome not having a number one. What did Joe Craig say? Yesterday's price ain't today's price. Last year's team ain't this year's team. Right. And you get outstanding play by your defense. Their defense is
Starting point is 00:16:50 balling out of control. And for the offense, that's a Patrick Mahomes-led offense. And they were already scoring 23 points a game, which is the lowest in a Mahomes era. Now it's going to be even lower. And they're scoring this few points at home.
Starting point is 00:17:06 At home. And see, Ocho, I'm a very realistic guy. Look, I didn't like playing in the rain, but we don't use rain as an excuse. Because everybody has always practiced in the rain, and guess what? They're going to send checks. You're going to go get that check on Tuesday in the Ocho. Come rain,
Starting point is 00:17:22 come rain. Before they started doing direct deposit, I always got my check, Ocho. I needed to rain, come rain. Before they started doing direct deposit, I always got my check, Ocho. I needed to see it. I needed to see it. I didn't get no direct deposit. And Ocho,
Starting point is 00:17:32 I ain't have no direct deposit. I ain't have no direct deposit until I started working for Fox. They told me they wasn't going to send me my money. I had to get direct deposit. Prior to that, I had, oh yeah,
Starting point is 00:17:38 I had to go upstairs and get them checks. Mm-hmm. I needed to see my money. Wait, hold on, hold on, hold on. You didn't get direct deposit so you went and got your check and what took it to the bank yourself
Starting point is 00:17:47 I took it to the bank myself nah that's too much that's too much man I mean watch out I had deferred a lot of my money I deferred a lot of my money one time Ocho
Starting point is 00:17:59 I had like 2.2 million dollars right right I had it for like 30 days sitting in my drawer. The Broncos called me and was like, Shannon, did you receive that check? Right. I was like, yeah.
Starting point is 00:18:11 I said, it's in the drawer. They was like, do you mind cashing it? Oh, yeah. I forgot all about it. I put it in the drawer and forgot all about it, don't you? And it was like 40 days. And they called me and said, do you mind cashing it? Because, hey, even that's a lot of... They're like, hold on.
Starting point is 00:18:28 We wrote something for $2 million and it hasn't been cashed. So they said, well, you know, don't worry about cashing it. We're going to reissue you another one. Issue a new one, yeah. Can you go cash that one? Would you get it?
Starting point is 00:18:41 I was like, okay, I'll do that. But look, it happened. Alton Perkins, the second donated $10 and asked, do you think the Chiefs are missing Eric Biennium? Andy Reid was calling the plays then. He's calling the plays now. Yeah. And I thought Andy did a masterful job early on.
Starting point is 00:19:02 They was getting Pacheco involved, running the football. They was throwing the football. They was spreading around, did a nice job job early on. They were getting Pacheco involved, running the football. They were throwing the football. They were spreading it around. Did a nice job with a lot of smoke screen, jailbreak screen, whatever you want to call it. They did a great job of getting the ball out of his hands. And then all of a sudden, the offense became stagnant. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:19:17 Yeah. Yeah. After those halftime adjustments were made by the Eagles, the Eagles have a very, very, very good defense. I wouldn't really consider it. I think they got a good front line. I think their back end is terrible. I don't think their back end is very good.
Starting point is 00:19:32 Because of the front line, it makes the secondary that much better because they can cheat. They can gamble. They can do a lot more because the front line is that good. The 29th in pass defense. There's only 32 teams, Ocho. Yeah, I hate when you throw numbers at me like that.
Starting point is 00:19:54 Especially with how they look tonight. Sam Howell, what about in Clement Reathers? Now, you've been using that the whole night, but now you don't want to use it? But how about this? Sam Howell threw for 397 and four touchdowns. That, just three weeks ago, threw for 374 and three touchdowns.
Starting point is 00:20:10 They're 29th in pass defense for a reason, Ocho. That ain't an accident. They can be had, but the question is, do I have the receiver that can go have them? I know I got the quarterback. I'm not questioning Mahomes. He had a bad night throwing the football tonight, and that needs to be pointed out.
Starting point is 00:20:28 He did not play particularly well. Yeah, he had a great throw at the end that could have made everybody forget what transpired throughout the course of the game. It changes everything. But he did not throw the ball. He was a little off. And look, it's hard, and I get it,
Starting point is 00:20:43 but you have to understand, guys are not going to be plucking the ball. You putting the ball where you normally would throw it, Ocho, you got to put that ball in between the numbers. You got to give them an opportunity. Because that ball is going to hit your hand and it's going to ski it. So catches that guys would normally make, it ain't happening. It ain't happening. And now you really gotta focus
Starting point is 00:21:05 I mean it was almost like hey you gotta get bro now I'm not even worried about running after the catch Ocho I'm so focused on just catching the football catching the ball yeah a lot of times I'm just catching it and getting five yards I'm catching it and getting ten yards where if it's dry or I'm spinning up out there I'm about to book it
Starting point is 00:21:22 right away I'm about to hit you with these right here and try to get up out of there. And I don't think people, I don't think people watching at home, they'd be like, oh, it just rained. You got to catch the ball. I don't think they understand the difficulty at running at the speed that you're running.
Starting point is 00:21:34 Yeah. With everything that's around you, being able to process it, people coming at you, people coming to tackle you, knowing hits are coming and then having to lock in times 10 to make sure you ensure the catch.
Starting point is 00:21:44 And even with you being locked in, you to make sure you ensure the catch and even even even with you being locked in you still drop it because of the glove that they use today are not for rainy weather and you know people never want to take their gloves off they never want to take their glove no no i mean i really didn't wear i think i wore a glove my senior year in high school in college but for the most part i was bare hands up until my senior year in high school and college. But for the most part, I was bare hands up until my senior year in college. And then I probably would have stayed bare handed had they not. But you know, at tight end, man, you had that banging helmet. Your helmet get caught between face masks.
Starting point is 00:22:14 Yeah, you got to use your hands too much. Yeah, man. Yeah. But look, give the Eagles credit. The Eagles are a resilient football team. The Eagles football team reminds you a lot of the fans. That's a very blue collar. That's a very tough town.
Starting point is 00:22:30 That's a very blue collar. That's a very tough and physical-minded football team. Yeah. And I want to give Nick Sirianni credit because when he showed up, I was like, who the hell is Nick Sirianni? And he showed up and he didn't even have a suit because, hell, he wasn't even expected to get in the job. So he comes out there, he gets
Starting point is 00:22:46 the job, and he got an Eagle sweatsuit on. And I'm like, who the hell is this dude? But he's been better than I ever imagined he would. And Jeffrey Lurie and Howie Roseman, the owner Jeffrey Lurie, Howie Roseman is the general manager. They hit this one out of the park.
Starting point is 00:23:02 Yeah. They got the right guy. This is their year. If it's not this year, it's next year. But at some point, you're not going to be able to keep that superstar team together now. So you got to get it either this year or next year. Well, guys are going to start coming available. I mean, AJ, I mean, Devontae Smith is going to go on a contract.
Starting point is 00:23:20 You know, I don't know. You know, Jalen Carter is a few years away. He's a rookie. He's on a rookie contract. You got Hurts sewn up. Probably, you're going to probably have to come back to the table and do something with AJ after next year. The linemen, it all depends on how long those linemen want to play.
Starting point is 00:23:37 You got Lane Johnson on a nice contract. Ma Lotto's on a nice contract. Kelsey's probably looking away. He's 36, the second oldest offensive lineman in football behind Dwayne Brown. So how much longer is he going to play? I like Landon Dixon. He's unbelievable at the right guard position. So I think they
Starting point is 00:23:54 can be good for a while. It all depends on Bradbury and Slade, but the defensive line, how much longer does Fletcher want to go? How much longer does Brandon Graham want to go? So they got some nice pieces, Ocho. Just filling that roster, you got a young Jalen Hurts who improves by the week. But that knee, you know, I see Jalen Hurts get caught from behind by people that he'd kick dirt in their eyes.
Starting point is 00:24:17 And by the time they realized what would happen, he'd have been on the way back to the hook. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, he's still efficient, though, when he does take the ball down the run. And what I like about Jalen is he is a true pocket passer first. And he ain't pulling the ball down and running with it unless he has to. Unless he just damn near has to. Yes.
Starting point is 00:24:39 Mal, be crazy, donated $10 and asked, Jason and Travis Kelsey are the first brothers to play in the Super Bowl. But if Sterling had not retired due to injury, it would have been you two. How special would Super Bowl 32 would have been if that had happened? It would have been great for us, but it would have been hell on my sister and my mom.
Starting point is 00:24:56 And that's the thing. Things like that, as a competitor, you know, hey, I want to win. He wants to win. That's my brother. But my mom and sister, my mom and sister, they're not to win he wants to win that's my brother but my mom and sister my mom and sister they're not gonna be able to handle that who are they gonna cheer for how about that me because i'm the baby how you know because i'm the baby i'm the baby i know my i know my mom i know what the hell going on where Where? The black dark behind you.
Starting point is 00:25:25 It's pitch dark. Oh, shoot. That's the lights in the hotel. They must have cut off. Hold on, let me turn them on. Because all I see right now is teeth. Yeah, that's all I see. The hotel. The hotel must be on a timer. You heard me.
Starting point is 00:25:53 The hotel must be on a timer or something. I ain't never heard no hotel on no time. Hey, Ram. I'm in LA. I just landed. Hey, Ram. She ain't here. She watching, though.
Starting point is 00:26:03 I'm sure she might be watching. She might be watching. She watching. Yeah, she watching. Hey, Ram. She ain't here. She watching, though. I'm sure she might be watching. She might be watching. She watching. Hey, baby. Ocho, we just passed 21,000 lives. What? Yeah. 21,000 people, I love y'all. I know you see this. I love you. If I've never
Starting point is 00:26:19 seen you in person, I love you. Hugs from me. If you have met me in person, I appreciate you. Thank you for subscribing and all that good stuff, man. We're going to continue to make sure we pay it forward. We're going to bless you now. We're going to bless you. They say they don't want to meet no guy to be a zugga-nonto like
Starting point is 00:26:35 Nick Bone. Who? Oh, yes, they do. Yes, they do. No, no. Yes, they do. They understand. And listen, if you can eat pig feet, if you can eat pig feet, if you can eat pig feet, Yeah, they got very good hot sauce. If you can eat raccoon, listen, you can put hot sauce on toes too, man.
Starting point is 00:26:51 You can put hot sauce on toes. Start with the pinky toe and play the flute. That's how you practice. Start with the pinky toe and play the flute. Nah. I'd rather get off a couple of bands a month and then have these socks and toes. I ain't gonna be able to do that one.
Starting point is 00:27:05 Go ahead and take these couple extra bands I got for you. But I can't do that, Ocho. Hey, listen, you can't talk about you want Miss Be Nasty if you ain't willing to be nasty now. It ain't making no sense now. One plus one got to equal two. You ain't making no sense. One plus one got to equal two.
Starting point is 00:27:23 There's other ways. There's other ways to be dancing you know what I'm saying there's levels there's levels to dancing I mean right now you at a 10
Starting point is 00:27:34 so baby I'm like at a 6 6 and a half 7 you at a 10 you at a 12 on a scale of 1 to 10 or nasty
Starting point is 00:27:41 you at a 12 but listen you done been on God's green earth very, very long. Yeah. And there was Adam and Eve. They called it
Starting point is 00:27:48 the birds and the bees. And I'm going to need you to catch up. I'm going to need you to evolve. Right now, you nasty with a flip phone. You ain't even compatible
Starting point is 00:27:57 in today's society. Yeah. You a flip phone right now. I need you to come on and graduate with me. I don't even know how to flip. I might be that brick. I might be that firstola that was back in the day the big 8000
Starting point is 00:28:12 i might be one of the old brick bowl you know what i'm saying but you know i'm catching up on you listen listen even when you started learning to ride a bike you had training wheels on right now in that area regardless of age you got your wheels on, but we're going to guide you. We're going to guide you in this. We're going to get you together. Okay. I appreciate that, Ojo. I appreciate that.
Starting point is 00:28:32 Check this out. Tom Brady went on the Stephen A. Smith show. Congratulations, Stephen A. And says, the NFL is a weaker product. Brady says, I think there's a lot of mediocrity in today's NFL. I don't see excellence that I saw in the past. The rules have allowed for a lot of bad habits to get into the actual performance of the game.
Starting point is 00:28:50 I just think the product, in my opinion, is less than what it used to be. So this is what he said. He said, offensive players need to protect themselves. It's not up to a defensive player to protect an offensive player. The defensive player needs to protect himself.
Starting point is 00:29:04 I didn't throw the ball into certain areas because I was afraid guys were going to get knocked out. That's the reality of it. I would not throw the ball over the middle when I played Ray Lewis because he knocked them out of the game and I couldn't afford to lose a player. A good player, yeah.
Starting point is 00:29:17 That's what I've been saying. These guys throw the ball over the middle and then they get mad at the defensive player for knocking him out. No! They reaching up with one hand they pretty posing and looking good and looking cute yeah okay okay the nfl the nfl has handicapped the game of football is it is handicapped players that play on defense to a point to where they can't even tackle everything Everything is a flag. Everything is a foul of some sort. They are fining players ridiculous amounts of money for playing the game of football
Starting point is 00:29:51 that we were taught from yay high on how to play. Tackling proper, doing all this stuff. Like there's nothing you can do now. There's nothing you can do. Yeah. They say,
Starting point is 00:30:02 don't leave with the crown and the helmet. Okay, so people are start trying to use their shoulder now but it's impossible when you're running full speed and somebody plays a bang bang plays and having to adjust your body and move it at a split second somebody's gonna end up hurting themselves they're gonna end up hurting themselves they've handicapped they've handicapped everybody you can't get the quarterback. I understand that. I understand that part. You can't hit the quarterback. You can't do anything. Some plays, it's ridiculous.
Starting point is 00:30:34 Almost to the point where I understand where Tom Brady is coming from as far as the product on the field. Because they're handicapping the defense to such an extent, I think they're doing it purposely so the offense for the fans will be more exciting. They'll be more exciting it it just no i don't i don't want to say the wrong thing i can't get in trouble right they they opened up the game because what do you like you like scoring and baseball what do you want you wanted the home run right they allow the players to do certain things to be able to hit
Starting point is 00:30:59 the ball over the fence and the and the ml the rewards. And then all of a sudden they wanted to all of a sudden become so stringent. Oh, I can't believe y'all did that. Well, you co-signed that. You were all in favor of that. Right. Until it got out that everybody was doing it. Okay. Look at basketball.
Starting point is 00:31:17 What did they do? They took the hand, check it out. They took certain aspects of the game out to make it free flowingflowing because people got tired of seeing 85-80 ball games. I want to see 115-112. I want to see 130-125. And so they opened the game up. More people, no fans. I like this NBA.
Starting point is 00:31:36 The NFL, what did they do? They made it damn impossible to hit the quarterback because you could only hit him in this area. From the top of his number to the bottom of his number. That's all you got. That's crazy. What they need to start doing, what defensive players
Starting point is 00:31:48 need to start doing, defensive hands, defensive tackles, corners, corners, or the goddamn nickels coming on blitzes, and just run up
Starting point is 00:31:56 and just hug him and just hold him. Just hold him up. Like, that's that. The game is going to come to that extent. We just got to grab somebody and just hold him up
Starting point is 00:32:04 and wait for the whistle to blow. That's what it's coming to. But then what happens when you're running so fast and then you fall on top of it? Now you put your weight on it. Yeah, yeah. And this is the thing. The NFL always talks about protecting players.
Starting point is 00:32:18 Protecting players, I understand. I understand safety, technology, that advancement of it and how far it's come. Listen, players are getting bigger, faster, and stronger. The dimensions of the field have yet to change. They haven't changed at all. So what do you want to give? Something has to give.
Starting point is 00:32:34 Something has to give. Telling the players that are getting bigger, faster, and stronger, okay, you have to change the way you tackle. Okay, you have to change. It's impossible. But you don't tackle. The only time you tackle is in the game. So where do you get that practice from, Ocho? Well, don have to change. It's impossible. But you don't tackle. The only time you tackle is in the game. So what do you get that practice from, Ocho?
Starting point is 00:32:48 Well, don't do this. Okay, so you're just telling us to do that. We get no repetitions of doing that. The only repetitions we get is come game day. And I tell guys, and I said, if I flash my hands in front of your face, you're going to blink. So what do you think if I'm a receiver, I catch the ball and I see somebody coming?
Starting point is 00:33:05 I'm going to crunch. I'm going to curl up. I'm going to ball up. So now I might be up here. I see him coming. I bring myself down into him. Now he hits me in the head or shoulder area. Now all of a sudden, it's a flag on him.
Starting point is 00:33:18 And I'm firing $20,000 for something that I can't even help. That is a reaction. It's a reaction. You know, you just reacted. And then also what I know why the NFL changed these rules. Remember that lawsuit, right? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:33:32 Remember that lawsuit? That is why the rules are as crazy as they are because the NFL is also protecting the shield. So players can't come now 10, 15, 20 years from now and say, well, look,
Starting point is 00:33:47 these are the reasons why I feel this way. I'm suing. Well, no, you're not going to be able to do that because there are rules set in place now that protects the NFL saying, well, no, we had the rules set in place. So you can't come back and sue us 20 some years from now because of damage or CT or anything of that sort. Yeah, it's a call. I look at the NFL as assumption of the risk, you know, broken bones, torn ligaments. You know, you're going to get,
Starting point is 00:34:09 if you play long enough, you're going to get a concussion. Somebody going to hit you in the top of your head or hit you in the side. And you're going to get your bell rung. Cause when I first got in the league, they didn't use the term concussion unless you got literally knocked out. You said, Oh, you got your bell rung.
Starting point is 00:34:21 Well, you got dinged up. But then, you know, they, they started doing all these studies and people started to say, Oh no, that's dinged up. But then, you know, they started doing all these studies, and people started saying, oh, no, that's a concussion. But, no, I get it.
Starting point is 00:34:29 But here's the thing. I agree with everything that Tom Brady said. Oh, yeah. But guess what? But guess what, Ocho? Tom Brady benefited from these rules. Yeah, he did. Well, on the back end.
Starting point is 00:34:38 On the back end. Bro, he played 23 years. Do you really? Hold on, Ocho. Check this out. I don't know if you remember this But in 1990 When did the rules start
Starting point is 00:34:48 Where you could actually hit? Which, uh, uh I don't I think the defensive receiver Started about five years ago But here's the thing, Ocho Think about this In 1999
Starting point is 00:34:57 You know how Kurt Warner Got on the field? Rodney Harrison Hit Trent Green In the knee In the pocket Ah He fell into him, huh? By accident? Rodney Harrison hit Trent Green in the knee, in the pocket. Ah.
Starting point is 00:35:08 He fell into him, huh? By accident? It was in the preseason game. He hit him in his knee. They didn't change the rule until 2009. And why did they change it? The tuck? Was it the tuck one?
Starting point is 00:35:18 No. The ACL. In 2008, Pollard, Bernard Pollard from Kansas City, hit Tom Brady in the pocket in his knee. And they immediately changed the rule. And that's when Matt Castle had to come in and finish the season. There you go. Ah, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay. So now they changed the rule.
Starting point is 00:35:34 Then they also said, we're going to take it a step further. Now you're not going to be able to land your body on top of the player. So if you're going to take him down, you got to land on your side. Or you got to protect him or pull him down on top of you. I ain't pulling him down on top of the player. So if you're going to take him down, you got to land on your side. Or you got to protect him or pull him down on top of you. I ain't pull him down on top of me. I'm going to slam his ass down. Well, I do understand that part. Obviously, 300-pound defensive
Starting point is 00:35:53 tackles, you got the damn DNs at 280, 250. Yeah. Land all that pressure on the quarterback, separate his shoulders, AC sprains, and you want your quarterbacks to be able to finish the game because, listen, people come to see the quarterbacks.
Starting point is 00:36:08 They come to see, and your offense won't be the same without them out there on the field. So I do understand, one, the product, especially the quarterback on the field. I totally understand, but you're handicapping the guys
Starting point is 00:36:18 and they're hesitant. Now they don't want to, well, how do I get him? I don't want to slam him down. And now all of a sudden you let the guy get out your grasp, out of your grass he runs out and throws a touchdown pass and then coach like son why do you get cold what you want me to do i can't hit him exactly exactly and the same thing with the defensive receiver the incidental contact it's so much
Starting point is 00:36:40 uh before we move on uh kareem Jackson got fined. He got suspended four games. And came back not reviewing something else. No, they just suspended him four games for the hit on Dobbs last night. Again? See, this is why I disagree. Dobbs is a runner. He's not
Starting point is 00:36:59 for the protection of a defensive player. He's not a receiver. He's not in a defensive position. Ocho, he's running the football. It's not a receiver. He's not in a defenseless position. Ocho, he's running the football. It's third and one. I don't want you to fall forward. So I'm going to try to run through you. So what do they want the guy to do?
Starting point is 00:37:15 So now all of a sudden, I can't. So what am I supposed to do when a guy running full speed ahead? What am I supposed to do, Ocho? Can he appeal that or no? Yes, he's going to appeal it. Because he appealed the last one. They gave him four games. They heard it, and then he got two.
Starting point is 00:37:30 This game, they gave him another four games, so I'm sure he's going to appeal it again. When I look at it, Ocho, I get defensive receiver. I get the quarterback in the pocket, but as a runner, he's no longer... Just because he has 15, he plays the quarterback and he can throw the ball. He's a running back. He he's a receiver he's running the ball he doesn't get the protections that a
Starting point is 00:37:51 guy in the pocket or receiver trying to catch the ball does yeah and that's that's unfortunate man that's unfortunate that he just he just came back just got back this sunday was his first game being active i i don't active I don't know I think is it the competition committee that rules on this is it the competition committee or is it the NFL as a whole it's the competition committee they got to do something
Starting point is 00:38:15 they got to do something about that one of the defenders are going to end up hurting themselves to prevent themselves and doing something that's not natural when it comes to tackling while we all love watching our favorite teams on television there's to prevent themselves in doing something that's not natural when it comes to tackling. Yeah. While we all love watching our favorite teams on television, there's nothing better than being at a game live and in person.
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Starting point is 00:44:26 Yeah. For sure. Yeah, we doing it big, Ocho. We doing it big. Yeah, you get to see me. Thank you for joining us, guys. When we put this thing together, Ocho and I put this thing together, we thought we had great chemistry and we thought we could be special.
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Starting point is 00:45:02 We've seen a lot of guys getting injured with this play. I believe they're going to end up banning this tackle just like they did the horse collar. Then what you going to do? How are you going to tackle somebody? How are you going to tackle somebody? How are you going to tackle somebody that's in front of you? What are you going to do?
Starting point is 00:45:20 You can't ban it. This is what Tom was talking about. The offensive player Need to protect himself When you feel the weight of somebody on you Stop trying to fight it Allow the body to just let go Just let go and fall with it
Starting point is 00:45:35 Mark Andrews got hurt You know why he got hurt? Because he's fighting through it Don't fight through it If you know somebody's on you If you feel the weight of somebody on you Just let go Let go and just fall with it Just flow with it you learn that when you're a little kid when you're a little kid in optimus you learn that oh joshua you remember the horse collar
Starting point is 00:45:54 they are yeah well we got why williams on terrell owens when the cowboys play the eagles but he also he also uh towards somebody's patella tendon he did a couple guys like that and they outlawed it they said you know what guys you can you can stop you don't have to tackle like that and if you do tackle like that
Starting point is 00:46:12 we're going to penalize you right and I think that's where I think that's where they're heading Ocho because I'm surprised they didn't do away with it
Starting point is 00:46:19 last year because Patrick Mahomes is a big enough name to move the needle right and the last thing you want him to do is to be unable to. And I think
Starting point is 00:46:29 had he missed the game, if that injury had put him out, I think they would have outlawed it. But because he came back and was able to play and they won the Super Bowl, they took another look at it. But I won't be surprised in the next year or so if that play is outlawed. And if you do it, it's going to get penalized.
Starting point is 00:46:46 Okay. And if they outlaw that and they handicap the defensive players even more than what they already are handicapped, then we might as well put some goddamn flags on. And that's no disrespect to the competition committee. That's no disrespect to the NFL. But I'm sure if we would have talked to defensive players, linebackers, safeties, cornerbacks, nickels, anybody on defense and ask them, if you want to outlaw that tackle,
Starting point is 00:47:12 what do we do about individuals that are bigger than us, that are stronger than us, that we have to tackle from behind or from the side that we're not meeting head on. What do we do? What do you do? Adaptability is one of the greatest thing that's ever been created you can't adapt you can't there's no way to adapt you've been playing the game one way all your life you can't all of a sudden get to the nfl and the nfl decide to change the rule people are bigger faster and stronger there's nothing you can adapt to in changing at the speed of this game. You just can't do it. Ocho, but here's the thing. There's a new
Starting point is 00:47:48 wave of being taught. So the way you were taught, they weren't taught like that at a grassroots level. Now guys are getting taught at the grassroots level. For $40 million, you would adapt because that's where the salaries are heading for defensive
Starting point is 00:48:03 players. I never thought I'd see a defensive player, a cornerback making 20 plus million dollars. I never thought I'd see a D a defensive lineman making $30 million. And 10 years from now, they're going to be a defensive lineman making 50 million. You know, Joe, do you know there are some of these franchises that was purchased for less
Starting point is 00:48:20 than 50 million? Right. So guys will find a way to adapt. Yeah. They will. It's unfortunate, though. It's unfortunate. Your guy, Zach Wilson,
Starting point is 00:48:32 now this is how bad it's gotten. They just signed Trevor Simeon to the practice squad. He's going to be the number two all the way down to three. He probably won't even get an opportunity to dress up. Zach Wilson might have played his last game.
Starting point is 00:48:47 All things being equal, Ocho, what they really hope would happen is that they could get two years squeezed, two years out of Aaron Rodgers, get Zach Wilson to sit for two years, see, and then bring him back. But Aaron Rodgers got hurt the fourth play of the season. Zach Wilson got thrust back into
Starting point is 00:49:05 the situation, and here we are. Check this out. Since the start of 2021, when Robert Sala took over as head coach, the Jets are one of two teams that have thrown more interceptions than
Starting point is 00:49:21 touchdown passes, along with the Carolina Panthers. Let that sink in, Ocho. Since 2021, they've thrown more interceptions than touchdown passes along with the Carolina Panthers. Let that sink in, Ocho. Since 2021, they've thrown more interceptions than touchdown passes on a two-team. Okay. All right. I have a question for you. I got an answer for you. Yeah, I know you do. So
Starting point is 00:49:37 the Jets, can you name the last time the Jets had a quarterback, an efficient quarterback at the helm? You probably have to go back. the last time the Jets had a quarterback, an efficient quarterback at the helm? You probably have to go back. They went to back-to-back AFC Championship games, and I think, what was that? 08, 09, or 9 and 10
Starting point is 00:49:54 with the Jets with Mark Sanchez and Rex Ryan. And Rex Ryan. Okay, before Mark Sanchez. Name another quarterback. Probably Chad Pennington. I think Chad Pennington went to a couple of Pro Bowls with the... In 98 in the AFC Championship game. But if you're talking about like...
Starting point is 00:50:14 I mean, really, the only Hall of Fame quarterback that they've had is Joe Naiman. And Joe threw more interceptions than touchdown passes. Yeah. Yeah. So I don't really think this is a Zach Wilson problem. I think the quarterbacks that have played
Starting point is 00:50:29 for that organization and that franchise have always struggled. They've always been okay. So I'm not sure why. I understand why. I understand why Zach Wilson was benched.
Starting point is 00:50:44 I am still, I'm still on the bandwagon. Sometimes the bandwagon ain't always going in the right direction. It doesn't go in the direction you want it to go, but that's a hill that I'm willing to die on and will continue to support him from afar. I haven't even met Zach. I haven't met Zach Wilson yet, and I
Starting point is 00:50:59 ride for a buddy like, that's my homeboy. That's my dog. It's just in me like that. Always want to see everybody succeed, especially at the quarterback position. Oh, Joe. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:51:11 Oh, Joe, just because you say somebody is not playing well, that doesn't mean you don't want them to succeed. Right. I mean, you know, listen,
Starting point is 00:51:19 listen, if you see, you read some of the goddamn comments on Twitter, when I'm on Twitter, you know, talking about Zach and, and, and the issues and the problems and the struggles of playing the quarterback position in New York. Oh, man, them people mean as hell, boy. The New York fans and the Philly fans might be neck and neck when it comes to insults.
Starting point is 00:51:38 I've been called everything under the sun. they look at Zach Wilson and he's not playing particularly well is that when they started winning ain't nobody mentioned about the offensive line right all they talked about was Zach
Starting point is 00:51:54 Zach playing good Zach playing good Zach playing good now all of a sudden when he's but here's the thing Ocho if you go back and look at some of the games
Starting point is 00:52:01 that they lost what was so different about this game he's looked bad and you tried to add Robert Sala tried to add frosting to poop
Starting point is 00:52:13 and tried to make it say it's good no we saw you put frosting on the poop we know what it is we know what Zach Wilson is okay dress it up no matter what you say. Because he kept saying it. And then what the telltale when they ask him a question about Zach, he said, I plead the fifth.
Starting point is 00:52:32 Right. Listen, there are your quarterback. I got somebody to ask you. Hey, Ocho, you love Ray. I plead the fifth. Ray will slap you and go back up and get up out of there. Yeah. But let me ask you a question. There are 31 other teams, right? Yeah. Name another quarterback on the NFL roster right now that is a starter
Starting point is 00:52:52 that can come on that Jets team and make a difference with what they had to work with offensively, starting with that offensive line. Tell me one quarterback in the NFL that would come there and all of a sudden it would just be a miraculous difference. Well, I would like to think it all depends on who you got in there. Now, when you look at it, you
Starting point is 00:53:12 brought Aaron Rodgers in there. You do know Aaron Rodgers behind that offensive line. Where was Aaron Rodgers running for his life? Running for his life in that first... He tore the Achilles. That was his fault. It was a three-step drop. He looked to his right and you know damn well on a three-step drop. It was a three-step drop, and somebody was on his goddamn ass.
Starting point is 00:53:31 No, it was not, Ocho. Go back and look at the tape. He went to his right. He looked to his right on a three-step drop. Can you work one side of the field and go to the other side? Yes or no? No, you got to stay there. You got to stay wherever you lock in.
Starting point is 00:53:44 You got to go because the ball got to come out your hands. Okay, then. So that's what you saw. You saw it. I highlighted it. I came in on Tuesday and said it was a three-step drop. He looked to his right. It wasn't there.
Starting point is 00:53:56 He tried to go all the way backside. When a guy's on the offensive line, they're trying to cut to get the guy's hand down. They're not engaging like they would, say, on a typical five-step drop. On a three-step drop, the ball is coming out quick. It's either coming out a quick out, a stop route, or a slam.
Starting point is 00:54:16 So guys are trying to cut to get the hands down. So you mean to tell me Aaron Rodgers is going to come back to that? I'm asking you. No, listen. You understand. I've seen You understand I've seen it I've watched it Everyone else Everyone else in this chat
Starting point is 00:54:30 Has watched it They've watched the offensive line They've watched the struggles They've watched it So I'm trying to understand Who else in the hell If you just hypothetically speaking Would actually come
Starting point is 00:54:41 And play quarterback For the Jets right now And think it would look Any goddamn different. Well, you could say that for a lot of teams. You could say that for Carolina. You could say that for a lot of teams, Ocho. You see how Bryce looks?
Starting point is 00:54:52 Do you see how Bryce is looking? You see how he's looking? Every time he dropped back, I feel bad for Bryce. Every time he dropped back, he getting swallowed up. He getting swallowed up every time. I don't believe Bryce will be looking like that. What year is this? This is year three for Zach or year two?
Starting point is 00:55:08 This is year three. I don't believe in year three Bryce Young will be looking like this. Right. I don't. Right. Okay. I could be wrong. Hopefully you and I are still doing the show.
Starting point is 00:55:18 Yeah. And we'll get an opportunity to see what Bryce Young is looking like in year three. Yeah. But I said this last night. He's got to make a change. He don't have a choice. Right, yeah. I understand.
Starting point is 00:55:31 I understand. I understand it as a receiver, as being part of an NFL team when things aren't going well, especially with the quarterback position and change needing to be made. Because there's one thing that I told you, but I think I forgot when I mentioned it
Starting point is 00:55:45 maybe two shows ago. Players get coaches fired. Players can get coaches fired. Coaches can lose a locker room if change isn't made. We saw that happen with the Raiders and changes had to be made.
Starting point is 00:56:02 It's an unfortunate situation for Zach. Zach, I know you're going to see this. Boy, I still love you. I'm still rocking with you. I'm still riding with you, man. Handle it like a professional. And when you get
Starting point is 00:56:12 your opportunity again, make the most of it. Two of my worst moments in my professional career is that I had two coaches fired on my watch. Coach Reeves in 1992 and Wade lost his job.
Starting point is 00:56:23 And I always thought, had I been the player that I became earlier, could I have saved those guys their job? I think Coach Reed forgave me the opportunity, but I wasn't the player early enough because I do believe I could have helped save his job. Now, whatever transpired with him and John, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:56:41 And I don't really care to know because both of those guys helped me immensely in my career. Wade brought in Jim Fossil. Jim Fossil built his offense around me. But I just hate that I wasn't the player that I later became earlier because maybe I could have saved some guys. Maybe I could have saved their job.
Starting point is 00:56:57 But I think Coach Reeves and his family know what I think of him. I see Wade all the time. Wade knows what I think of him. But that's probably one of two of my worst moments in my career, Ojo not being done to have someone it it hurts to have someone lose their job on your watch it should everybody everybody it happens you know players get cut but that's not the way i look at it i look at it like had i been better earlier i might have
Starting point is 00:57:21 could have saved those guys the job guys ochcho and I we're both in a hotel room and the Wi-Fi is not the best. So we're trying to do we're trying to make do with the best we can. I also want to apologize for people in the hotel room that Ocho and I are staying at because it is a little noisy. And I want to thank the
Starting point is 00:57:40 hotel that I'm actually staying in because they removed the people on both sides because they kind of complained last night that we were loud. They removed the people on both sides because they kind of complained last night that we were loud. They removed the people on both sides of me. And so I want to thank you guys for that. You in L.A.? I'm in New York.
Starting point is 00:57:56 Oh, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay. If I was in L.A., I'd have been in my house. You had a cheap hotel because we got this five-star fiber optics Wi-Fi over here. So I don't know where you're staying at. Ochoa, did you see this last night?
Starting point is 00:58:16 A fan suffered an injury during a half-court shot at the Lakers game. A fan has an opportunity to win $55,000. $55,000, I saw that, yeah. If he hit a half-court shot. People said he deserved the $55,000 for his troubles. Oh, listen.
Starting point is 00:58:32 He finna get that money one way or another. He gonna get shot. He ain't leaving with something because he got hurt. And I don't think he really hurt. He leaving with something. I think that was his whole plan.
Starting point is 00:58:44 I'm gonna go out here. Even if I miss this shot, I'm walking out of here with something. I think that was his whole plan. I'm going to go out here. Even if I miss this shot, I'm walking out of here with something. Just like Denzel told Jamie Foxx. I'm walking out of here with something. But I think the thing is, you probably have to sign a waiver. You probably signed a waiver, Ojo.
Starting point is 00:58:59 You think so? You think you signed a waiver? For sure. Okay. Okay. Okay. If you signed a waiver, i'm just trying to understand how do you get how do you get hurt just thorn just throwing look at it but he was but he was excited
Starting point is 00:59:16 all i see is teeth and ipods hold on my light went off again that's a good thing that's how they save money on a light bill that's a good thing that's how they save money on a light bill they can stay on yeah so oh Joe so do you think he deserved because
Starting point is 00:59:36 they're on social media they say he deserved the $55,000 anyway nah I mean come on now you gotta make the shot listen so you sign a waiver the whole point is try to hit the half court shot to win you some money now you ain't getting no $55,000 we'll give you something we'll give you a t-shirt
Starting point is 00:59:52 we'll give you a t-shirt we'll give you two tickets for you and your wife to come to a game you know but nah come on now come on now $55,000 nah wouldn't his culture get this that oh I didn't win first place, but I should get
Starting point is 01:00:05 first prize money. Well, I didn't do what the contest said I should do in order to win. But you know what? You know what it is, Ocho? It ain't their money.
Starting point is 01:00:15 I guarantee you. Oh, yeah. If it was theirs. If you pay a contractor to do the job and all of a sudden he say, you know, my truck broke down and I'm not going to be able to do the job.
Starting point is 01:00:26 Are you going to pay him for the service that he didn't provide? Right. Hell no, because it's your money. Exactly. So you want to get $55,000 away. That's not your money. Yeah. People got great.
Starting point is 01:00:37 People love to spend other people's money. Always. Always. But obviously, let's be realistic. Let's be fair. And we were doomed as a society when we started giving out participating trophies.
Starting point is 01:00:49 Yeah, man. When we started giving out participating trophies and rewarding people for coming in third, rewarding people for coming in fourth, rewarding people for coming in... Or just showing up.
Starting point is 01:00:57 Or just showing up. Shit's been downhill ever since. Ocho, our chat said, not only do you fly Spirit Air, you stay at Spirit Motel. Oh, nah. Oh, nah, nah.
Starting point is 01:01:09 Nah, listen, listen. Hey, listen. This hotel I'm in right here in LA, this is five star. This is five star. They even took my bags. When I came to the hotel,
Starting point is 01:01:23 they had a man grab my bag and take it to my room before I even checked in. I ain't never seen that. They had coffee ready for me. And even when I came in the hotel room, it had a note. It had a note.
Starting point is 01:01:33 Hey, welcome, Mr. Johnson. We are glad to have you. I ain't never seen that. I ain't never seen that. Well, I guess you've been standing. I bet you've been standing on low budget. I guess they left the lights on for you too, huh? No, when I walked in,
Starting point is 01:01:46 they had the air set to 85. They had the air set to 85 when I walked in here. You know what that means, right? It's too hot? No, no, no. It was for me. It was like, okay, Ocho, you here?
Starting point is 01:02:03 And it said, we set the air to 85 because you here. This is a representation of you. like, okay, Ocho, you here? And it said, we set the air at the 85 because you here. This is a representation of you. We love you, Ocho. Check this out. Studies show the more money you spend on engagement rings,
Starting point is 01:02:14 the more probable it is for divorce. How much money you spend on rails? On rail ring? Mm-hmm. Yeah, it wasn't nothing but... It wasn't... I think... It wasn't nothing but like 22 wasn't, I think, it wasn't nothing but like $225, $250.
Starting point is 01:02:27 $225 what? $225? Nah, shit, bro, I don't play, I don't play. Listen, when it come to her, I don't play. I'm open, I'm open, I'm a person, man. Yeah, that wasn't much. That wasn't much, that wasn't nothing either. That ain't even the wedding. Huh? That ain't even the wedding. Huh? That ain't even the wedding. Oh, you know,
Starting point is 01:02:48 I'm finna cut up at the wedding. Can I tell you how the wedding gonna be? Let me tell you. Make sure you come too, man. We got a destination wedding. I'm going to get married. I ain't bringing nothing but my appetite. That's all you need.
Starting point is 01:02:59 And I'm gonna have open bar for you. And I'm gonna have open bar for you. I want you to have a little something else that's open for me going to have an open bar for you. I want you to have a little something else that's open for me. But you don't go ahead on the whole show. Talk to me now.
Starting point is 01:03:11 And you don't know about no bar. They might be on top of the bar. Hey, but listen, stay with me now, baby. Stay with me. Okay, I'm going to stay with you.
Starting point is 01:03:24 I'm going to follow you. We in the Bahamas. I know you got your passport you I'm going to follow you We in the Bahamas I know you got your passport Yeah I got it We in the Bahamas So we having a On the beach I already got everything
Starting point is 01:03:32 I already got everything Yeah We're beach wet I always wanted to be on the beach Yeah listen You can wear your shoes Or you don't got to wear your shoes Either way
Starting point is 01:03:39 It's going to be It's up to you Okay But you need You need a plus one Stay with me Let me finish Okay You know about the Junkanoo You know about the Junkanoo It's going to be up to you. But you need a plus one. Stay with me. Let me finish.
Starting point is 01:03:46 Okay. You know about the Junkanoo? You know about the Junkanoo? I ain't never heard of it. You never heard of Junkanoo? No. What did it do? Listen, Junkanoo is a festival similar to Carnival. You know, costumes, New Year's, Boxing Day.
Starting point is 01:04:00 Oh, beautiful, beautiful. So my favorite Junkanoo band, obviously from my time to visiting the Bahamas year in and year out, every New Year's, is they call the Valley Boys. Okay. The Valley Boys. Everybody in the chat, do your homework on the Valley Boys. Check them out. Watch them. If you're not doing anything this New Year's, come on down to the Bahamas and enjoy the New Year's Day Parade and watch the Valley Boys. Anyway, the Valley Boys, they're going to send me, send us out. They're going to send us out. When the wedding is over, to start the reception, the Valley Boys are going to play. So we talk about that's maybe three, three, three, 400 people. Huge band.
Starting point is 01:04:39 Huge. You're going to like it. You're going to like it. You and your plus one are going to like it. Well, I need some help. I might need some help getting me a plus one. Oh, I got you.
Starting point is 01:04:50 Stay with me. You ain't got to worry about that. So let me tell you about the reception. Let me tell you about the reception. Listen, you getting married. You already done chose yours. Let me choose mine.
Starting point is 01:04:59 Nah, you done had 55 years to pick one. You ain't got one yet. So I'm going to help you. I'm going to make sure you straighten that category. Let me tell you who's singing at the wedding though. Who's singing at the wedding? One, Brian McKnight.
Starting point is 01:05:13 Ooh, okay. I ain't finished now. Kiki Wyatt. Ooh. Yeah. Okay. Then I got a live band. Like the kick is off.
Starting point is 01:05:25 The rest of the night. Guess who the band is? Or what if I? Frankie Beverly and Maze. Oh, no. Man, Ocho, I don't want to break it to you. Look, my mom, man, Frankie Beverly, he can't do it no more like he used to, Ocho. Listen, it ain't about him not being able to do it like he used to.
Starting point is 01:05:46 I just need him for two hours. I just need him for two hours. I used to see Frankie Beverly and Maze at the Jazz Festival before in Cincinnati. With that white hat and them linen pants. Yep, man. Every time. And I say, look, Frank, baby, I need you. I need you one more time. O you. I need you one more time.
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Starting point is 01:08:25 Whether you're a football fanatic or you just enjoy a good laugh, make sure to listen to the Good Morning Football podcast Monday through Friday on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Oh, Joe. So, 225 for a ring. Got to make it sticky. Yeah, dang. Well, listen, I know you ain't talking. Ocho So 225 for a ring Kato Mickey Sticky Yeah, that ain't
Starting point is 01:08:46 Well, listen I know you ain't talking The way you be spending no money Listen, one of the few times One of the few times I'm going to open my purse And spend some money And not think twice about it
Starting point is 01:08:56 That's when it come to my kids And my woman I'm willing to spend anything And that's an investment. That's an investment. And it's going to appreciate. It's going to appreciate over time. Yeah, I think.
Starting point is 01:09:13 But I said, you know what? You know what I did? Well, I got to make some money there. I got to make some money there. I got to make some money. Matter of fact, and listen, ain't no motherfucking wedding finna happen if you think I'm signing that prenup
Starting point is 01:09:22 because we still ain't got through the logistics of that. That ain't happening. Rail, rail. Make him sign that prenup. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. Listen, stay with me real quick. People in the chat, they probably don't even know. The people in the chat don't understand. I have been afforded and put in a
Starting point is 01:09:38 fortunate position to be a stay-at-home father. There have not been many of us. Your ass ain't stayed at home. You on the road. That's only because it's football season. It's only because it's football season. But after football season, I stay at home.
Starting point is 01:09:53 I don't do nothing. I kick my feet up. I smoke my cigars. I make my coffee. I got my little Keurig. I play FIFA. I play Madden. So, listen.
Starting point is 01:10:01 You do know what stay-at-home mean, right? I stay at home. When I leave here, where do you think I go? I stay at home when I leave here where do you think I go I go back home right but where are you right now I gotta do Jimmy Kimmel tomorrow a stay at home mom means well I don't stay
Starting point is 01:10:14 well once the season over once football season over basketball season over I stay at home no a stay at home mom is a stay at home mom well obviously they still do other things outside of stay-at-home. No, they don't. Yes, they do. That's what stay-at-home means.
Starting point is 01:10:29 Well, let me tell you how mine works. Let me tell you how mine works. I have been afforded the opportunity to where I have someone that can take care of me and everything ain't on me. I don't have to do everything. I ain't got to pay all the bills. I ain't got to...
Starting point is 01:10:41 Like, that shit feel fucking good for a change where it just ain't all on me. And ain't got to, like that shit feel fucking good for a change where it just, it ain't all on me. And the weight, the burden of, the burden of having to take care of everything ain't on me.
Starting point is 01:10:51 And that is such a great fucking feeling. But if she think, she think I'm finna sign a motherfucking prenup in case things don't work out and I'm, and I'm finna walk away
Starting point is 01:10:59 with nothing, please. No. I need to have everything. I need to have everything I need half of everything so I continue to live the same lifestyle that you provided for me
Starting point is 01:11:08 and that's the big deal no you had you living that lifestyle before you met Rhea yeah but she made it easier she made it even easier she made it even easier you don't understand
Starting point is 01:11:16 how good I got it you don't understand how good I got it Rhea breathe up you don't understand how good I got it you don't
Starting point is 01:11:22 you know what it's like listen stay with me now you know how good it is. I was out somewhere one time, and I saw something I liked. And, you know, I don't really want to spend no money. Man, I had, I'm like, baby, man, you won't believe what I just saw, man. It was about $22,000. And I hung up, went on about my day.
Starting point is 01:11:42 I jumped in the car, and I'm headed somewhere else. She hit me like, boy on about my day, I jumped in the car and I'm headed somewhere else. She hit me like, boy, check your account, boy. Man, I checked my account. This motherfucker going to send me 30 grand off the whip. I off a whip.
Starting point is 01:11:55 Well, you know what that feel like, boy? Do you know what that feel like to have a woman that don't even got to think twice about it, man? She done wired me 30,000 just because I mentioned something that I saw. I saw. I ain't even say I wanted twice about it, man. She done wired me $30,000 just because I mentioned something that I saw.
Starting point is 01:12:06 I saw. I ain't even say I want it. I say I saw it because she know how I am. I say I want something. That's all right. That's all right. A few hours go by,
Starting point is 01:12:14 I don't even care no more. This motherfucker sent me $30,000 out the blue. $30,000 like that? Man, like that. Mind you, what I was looking at ain't cost nothing but $22,000. So she done sent me an extra $8,000 or $9,000 or $10,000.. Mind you, what I was looking at ain't cost nothing but 22. So, she done sent me an extra
Starting point is 01:12:26 eight or nine or ten. I'm like, what you trying to do? And when we first met, this is what I like. This is what I was sold. This was sold me, Unc. This was sold me. We first met.
Starting point is 01:12:36 She said, listen, you cool and all, but I don't even need you. I want you. Man, Unc, Man, listen, man. I ain't never heard no shit like that, boy. I ain't never heard nothing like that. I ain't never heard nothing like that, man.
Starting point is 01:12:54 Most of the time, fellas, you know, we got to lead with money. You got to lead with money to attract what you want. You know, you got to pour into and you really get nothing back in return. And what you do get back in return, you can get from anywhere
Starting point is 01:13:06 in the world when it comes to somebody that actually like you because they're going to give it to you for free. It just, oh man. But that's what you got to do.
Starting point is 01:13:13 It's a situation that's unbelievable, man. I think the thing is, Ocho, is that you got to be with the woman that likes you,
Starting point is 01:13:22 not the woman you like. Ooh. That's tough though. That's tough. It is. the woman that likes you, not the woman you like. Ooh. That's tough, though. That's tough. It is. The woman that likes you is really not the one you want to be with. You chasing the ones you really want are the ones you having to chase behind. You got to chase behind.
Starting point is 01:13:38 You got to do all type. You got to do some assault. But here's the thing. But you ain't the only one chasing them. Yeah. Oh, yeah. You got to compete. They like Usain Bolt in his prime.
Starting point is 01:13:49 And the field was chasing him. Oh, yeah. That's how it is. And the funny thing about it is the bigger the fish when it comes to the men, the one percenters. The one percenters. They get to pick and choose who they want. They get to pick and choose and dibble and dabble pick and choose and and and dibble and dabble and it's it's it's an it's an unfair world and the game is a game the game is a guy i wrote a book
Starting point is 01:14:11 about it i don't want to get too much into it right now but i just i just at time to like i thank god for putting me in a position like this where i just i just ain't got to do it all i ain't got to do it all you know yeah that weight and that burden is off my shoulders. Real friend, the doctor just donated $500. Man, that's too nice in a row. What? Hold on, hold on, hold on. What kind of doctor is she here?
Starting point is 01:14:35 What kind of doctor is she here? What kind of doctor is she here? Because, you know, I might need a little minor surgery here and there. What kind of, can she help me? Can she help her brother out? Hold on, let me finish hitting the Holy Ghost now. Hold on.
Starting point is 01:14:48 Hey, boy, let me tell you something now. If you don't stop playing, if you don't stop playing and slide in them DMs. Hold your, hold your.
Starting point is 01:15:00 Hey, where you at? Where you going? What you doing? Putting them diamonds in. I mean, I don't know what I'm going to see, but I'm going to be ready. I'm going to pop one of them diamonds. They say it lasts about three,
Starting point is 01:15:16 they say it lasts about seven to two hours. I'm good. Just put that thing up under my tongue. Just carry on, Ocho. Just carry on. Don't worry about me. God, my stomach hurts. God, I got to be right, Ocho.
Starting point is 01:15:41 Boy, listen. Let me tell you something. God loves to forgive her Let me tell you something. God loves to cheer for giver. I told you yesterday. Don't ignore the signs. Don't ignore the signs. This sign ain't red. This sign is green.
Starting point is 01:15:55 That means you need to go. You need to look at the name. Save the name in the chat. Jot it down. Send a DM on Instagram. And do what you need to do. All of my steps in by way which I want to walk. So the cup continued to run it over.
Starting point is 01:16:15 God said when a man findeth a wife, he findeth a good thing. I don't know. I don't know what else you need to see. I don't know what else you need to see. I don't know what else you need to see unless you want God to come down here and slap you across the head. The signs is right there. The signs is right there.
Starting point is 01:16:34 Let me see if I still got that old script. I can feel this old script now. I keep a script. I keep a script on it for a 30 day. I might have to get that old liquid. They got that liquid now that's 100 milligrams. They'll put a couple of drops up out of your tongue.
Starting point is 01:16:51 Ocho, I wanted to test it out, Ocho. I wanted to test it out because the doctor said, he said, Mr. Sharp, this liquid is a little bit more, it's a little more potent than the tablets. Ocho, I said, you sure, doc? He said, yeah.
Starting point is 01:17:05 So I went home, and I was going over the bridge, and the bridge was crooked. Right. I dropped a little drop in the water. The bridge straightened out. Bad lines for you, Ocho. I want to go out of there. I want to go out of there, Ocho.
Starting point is 01:17:19 The bridge straightened out. I said, oh, this is what I'm looking for. Yeah, Ocho. Straighten right on up out of there. I said, oh, this is what I'm looking for. Yeah, Ocho. Right on up out of there. I said, okay. Man, listen, man. I just... I mean, listen. It can't be no more clear.
Starting point is 01:17:38 It's clear. I don't know who used Vazine. You used Vazine? Nefcon. Okay, Nefcon, yeah. Yeah, I used Lumify so I can see real good. And I can see what the man upstairs is doing for you. I can see it. The people in the chat
Starting point is 01:17:54 can see it. Yeah, yeah. That's what I've been saying. They mad at me. Yeah. Go ahead and do what you need to do now. You know. Go ahead and do what you need to do. Get them training wheels off of you. That ice.
Starting point is 01:18:10 Time out. Time out. That ice. That ice. That ain't how you do time out. Time out like this. Okay. Now, okay, yeah, I need a full time out
Starting point is 01:18:18 because this is the 22nd time out in basketball. I need a full time. As a matter of fact, I'm going to burn all three of mine right back to back to back. Time out. Time out. Time out. You know, the NFL, you can't call back to back time. Right, right, right, right.
Starting point is 01:18:33 Hey, you know what, Ocho? You got me leaning. Yeah, I see you blushing. Yeah, I see you blushing, man. But you know, dark skinned brother, we be blushing. Nobody even know. Yeah, I see you blushing, man. But you know dark-skinned brothers, we be blushing. Nobody even know.
Starting point is 01:18:47 Yeah. Listen, I'm darkened to you. So I know how you feel. I can see it on the inside. And it's okay to be the aggressor. Sometimes it's okay to be thirsty. You know, everybody want to be cool these days and pretend like they're not thirsty.
Starting point is 01:19:04 You know, if you're not quenched, it's okay. Be the aggressor. Sometimes you got to go for what you want. My grandma always told me, clothes now don't get fed. In order to have or get somebody that you want, sometimes you got to take initiative. Take initiative. Yeah. Sis, I appreciate you, sis.
Starting point is 01:19:23 Sis, I love you. Sis, I love you and I thank you sis I love you and I thank you I love you and I thank you and you gonna be the plus one we gonna make it happen we gonna make it happen man hey man
Starting point is 01:19:38 Jamaica the Bahamas yeah all white all white it'll be the Bahamas, a beach. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Everybody, all white. All white. Matter of fact, I forgot what to tell you at the wedding.
Starting point is 01:19:52 I'm coming in on a white horse. Yeah. Yeah. I'm riding a black one. You go. Matter of fact, you want a hug?
Starting point is 01:20:01 When you hook me up with you. Yeah. Let's go. That's the kind up with. Yeah. Let's go. That's the kind of talk I like. Let's go. Hey, check this out, Ocho. What's your dream Thanksgiving plate? So we got, okay.
Starting point is 01:20:15 Ocho, you got your plate. Okay, what's going on the plate? What's the first thing going on the plate? Turkey. Okay, boom, turkey. Okay, what next? I got my ham. Okay, boom, ham. Boom. I got my ham Okay boom ham
Starting point is 01:20:25 Boom I got my stuffing Okay Damn what's next Candy yams Mashed potatoes Oh my bad My yams
Starting point is 01:20:37 I'm sorry my yams My candy yams Okay okay Boy I'm about to cry Cause I ain't Man grandma Grandma been gone since 2018 And I ain't had that kind of cooking in a long time. Yams.
Starting point is 01:20:49 I got my macaroni. Yeah, mac and cheese. Yeah, got to have that. My mac and cheese. I'm missing something. I'm missing something. I'm missing something. I'm missing something. Mac, y something. I'm missing something. I'm missing something.
Starting point is 01:21:06 Mac, yams. Wait, no, greens. Greens don't be part of it. Yeah, collard greens. Yeah, for sure. And my collard greens. That's it right there. Yeah, for sure.
Starting point is 01:21:14 That's enough for me. Wait, please tell me you like sweet potato pie. Yeah, I like sweet potato pie. Okay, I'm just making a show. Really, I mean, sweet potato pie, you really can only have two pies, especially if you're black. You got sweet potato, you got pecan. Pecan, yeah.
Starting point is 01:21:27 Pecan, what we call it, pecan. Don't bring no pumpkin pie. You bring pumpkin pie to my house, I ain't letting you in. You ain't coming to my house with no damn pumpkin pie. Right, right, right. Sweet potato, maybe, I got this lady She combines sweet potato pecan Together? Yeah
Starting point is 01:21:48 What that taste like? Well Sweet potato and pecan pie? If you tell me somebody got toes like that I'm about to eat them up She won't have them when she leave If them toes taste like sweet potato pecan pie It's over
Starting point is 01:22:04 Listen Toes take like Whatever you want to Depending on what you Dress them up with Yeah I don't know Listen
Starting point is 01:22:12 I'm missing Listen It's the first time For everything We gonna guide you in slow You ain't gotta jump You ain't gotta jump Listen you can start in the shallow
Starting point is 01:22:20 You ain't gotta jump In the eight feet of water We'll start you shallow We gonna work with you now. Put your life vest on. I got you. One thing about it, I ain't going to never see you wrong because Jesus got this will.
Starting point is 01:22:32 Check this out. Kevin Baker donated $50. He asked, who would make a better quarterback if y'all played, me or Ocho? My money on Ocho, but I got a thing to learn. I never underestimate them. Nah. Nah. You know, don't, but I got a thing to learn. I never underestimate them. Nah. Nah. You know, don't do that.
Starting point is 01:22:49 Don't you do that. Ocho, you didn't play no quarterback. I was a quarterback in high school. I sat behind Samari Roll. This is crazy, crazy high school team. Me, Samari Roll, Dwayne Starks, and Terry Cousins. I was a freshman. Dwayne was a quarterback and Samari Rowe, Dwayne Starks, and Terry Cousins. I was a freshman.
Starting point is 01:23:07 Dwayne was a quarterback and Samari was a receiver. When Dwayne left, Samari was a quarterback, then I was a receiver. When Samari Rowe left, I took over, and then I was a quarterback after Samari left. And y'all didn't win no one game. Oh, no, we was good, man. Miami, Miami, BC. Miami beat Senior High. High tides.
Starting point is 01:23:25 Did y'all go to playoffs? Yes, we did. Yeah, matter of fact, we lost in the playoffs when I was the quarterback that year. We lost. I'll never forget. The night my grandfather got killed.
Starting point is 01:23:35 1994, my grandfather, James Neville Flowers, was shot, and we were playing Highland-Miami Lakes, and we lost to Highland-Miami Lakes. Remember Rohan Davey? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:23:45 We lost to Rohan Davey at home. Rohan Davey in the first round of the playoffs. I'll never forget. I'll never forget. And I always remember that because that was the night my grandfather, he never showed up to the game, and I couldn't understand why. And obviously when it ended, he got killed that night. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:24:01 Oh, this was back in 94 too, man. It's a long time ago. But yeah, man. You know, I look quarterback. I dabble, but I was a running back. I remember like I played all the positions that my brother played. I wanted to be like him, Mocho. So I was his backup.
Starting point is 01:24:16 He was a running back. I played running back. He was a part-time quarterback. I mean, he played quarterback until his senior year. He did his senior year the day before we spoke that Thursday night because back then we played Friday night games. He went to throw a pass, and he hit his index finger on the helmet. And he dislocated his finger, so he played running back that year.
Starting point is 01:24:36 But I just got tired of it. I didn't want to be a running back anymore because I got tired of hearing, my bad, Sharp. Mr. Block, my bad, Sharp. I said, you know what, let me get my ass from back here. I'm going to tight end. Can of hearing, my bad, Sharp. Mr. Block, my bad, Sharp. I said, you know what? Let me get my ass from back here. I'm going to tight end. Can't nobody say my bad. Because I'm way down the field. So I moved to tight end
Starting point is 01:24:54 my senior year. But Kevin, I don't know. You know what? I might get Ocho that. You ain't got no choice. There's really nothing that you are better than me at except playing tight end. I bet I'd knock your ass
Starting point is 01:25:08 out of the game, though. I bet you I'd be in that. What you mean, like hidden? Yeah. Man, I would've ran your ass over. Man, don't play at me like that, man. I'm built different, man. I'm built for it tough, man.
Starting point is 01:25:19 Don't do that, man. Ocho, think about this. Ocho, you a grown-ass man. Yeah. And you weigh 175 pounds. Can you imagine what you think you weighed in high school? You just said, you said you would knock me out when we playing football. When I played football, I was 215, 220.
Starting point is 01:25:34 Now, how you going to be 215 in high school and you 185? Oh, we talking about how I thought you made the league. Okay, okay. In high school, I was small. I was a little freer. I would knock your ass out. Yeah, I was a little freer. I was a freer. I I'd have knocked your ass out. Yeah, I was a little frail. I was a frail.
Starting point is 01:25:46 I got knocked out a few times. Not literally out, but, you know. I'd have knocked you out. I got right up. Right back in they face. Ocho. I'd be back. You know what I'd have did?
Starting point is 01:25:55 I'd have hit you so hard at the top of your head, you'd have peeped out your ribs and thank you in jail. No. That's what I... Ocho! Ocho!
Starting point is 01:26:05 You'd have been looking around talking about, do Jack Rabbit wear cowboy boots? Listen, I'm built different, man. I don't see that. No, you're not, Ocho. No, you're not, Ocho. Ocho, you're too frail. It ain't about being too frail.
Starting point is 01:26:18 It's about what's in here. It's about what's in here. I'm not that part of that. I'm not that part of that. I make you have a John Q moment. I make you have a change of heart. Never that. Do you have a John Q moment, fooling with I'm not that part of that. I'm not that part of that. I make you have a John Q moment. I make you have a change of heart. Never that. Do you have a John Q moment,
Starting point is 01:26:26 fool, with me? Never that. Never that. And you're not going to out-talk me on the field either. Oh, I'm talking to you. Oh, yeah. You're not going to out-talk me
Starting point is 01:26:34 on the field either. You're not going to talk me to death. See, I ain't going to do all that lip-spawn with you. Oh, I'm going to talk you to death. I'm going to talk you to death and then I'm going to run right by you. Man, listen.
Starting point is 01:26:45 I put that bow upside your dome a couple of times. I don't see it. I don't see it. Man, what you think everybody else try to do? I ain't see it. I don't even see it. I don't even see you. I'm not here.
Starting point is 01:26:57 Well, I put that hand bone on you. You ain't the only one. I got an elbow, too. I got an elbow, too. There's a little boyony ass elbows, man. Bony elbows hurt. Yeah, the bony elbows hurt. Oh, Joe. Oh, Joe. I done did something
Starting point is 01:27:13 bad to you, Ocho. I done did something bad to you, Ocho. You see that? You see that? What it is? Yeah, all right. 30, 30, 28-inch pythons. You see it? Ocho, you pulled a shirt up before you started working out. I mean, you got to get
Starting point is 01:27:27 like two more months in then pull the shirt up. I can't. I got a fight coming up. Yeah, I got... Hold on. I told you about four shows ago. I got a fight coming up.
Starting point is 01:27:37 I said, make sure you be there. Ocho, who you fighting, Ocho? Andre Ward. Oh, Lord. No, I'm serious. I believe you. You know when it comes to boxing, soccer, or football, I don't play around.
Starting point is 01:27:53 You don't play boxing. I know. I'm doing an exhibition with Andre Ward. Oh, sure. You know what my trunk's going to say, right? What? Nightcap. Uncle Nocho.
Starting point is 01:28:05 Yeah, yeah. Yeah, nightcap on the front. Then obviously I had a tribute to my mama that passed away two years ago. It's like my last fight. Yeah. And I'm not playing. I'm going to let Andre Ward tweet you tomorrow and he'll tell you, yeah, me and Ocho, we doing an exhibition.
Starting point is 01:28:24 I'm dead serious. I'm serious. Ocho. And he just makes you there. I don't want to hear no excuses. I don't want to see nobody put no pain on you, Ocho. Then I'm going to have to jump in the ring.
Starting point is 01:28:36 Ain't going to be no pain. These hands are very nice and you will see what three, four years worth of work, you'll see what it looks like when it's on display. I'm not saying I ain't finna beat nobody up. It's just we finna get in there and thump.
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Starting point is 01:29:52 Real just texted me about, why are you calling out food like you don't eat soul food? I know you do. But she's saying, why is she saying I'm calling out my plate for Thanksgiving dinner because I'm thinking about regular soul food restaurant, but I'm thinking my plate would want to be a little different on Thanksgiving day.
Starting point is 01:30:13 What you putting in your collard greens? I'm going to see if you know what you're talking about. What you putting in your collard greens? Well, I don't cook no collard greens, man. I don't cook no collard greens, but I'm not sure what collard greens in them. Good to see. Real mama in town, she can cook no collard greens, but I'm not sure what goes in them.
Starting point is 01:30:27 Real mama in town, she can cook no collard greens. What go in collard greens? What you like in them? I put turkey necks, pigtails. I love pigtails. You can't have all that in there now. No, I'm just saying.
Starting point is 01:30:44 Which one? Which one of those you like the best? You know, I love pigtails. But you can't have, you can't have all that in there now. No, I'm just saying. No, no, no. Which one? Which one of those you like the best? I don't like ham hocks in them. Probably in this order, I probably go turkey necks, pigtails, ham hocks. Okay.
Starting point is 01:31:10 In that order yeah so you like do you like the honey baked ham yeah man that honey that honey baked nice that honey baked nice you know what i think i need to do too but i but i ain't really no i ain't really no ham guy so i i normally bypass the ham yeah i do turkey dressing with, you know, the gravy. I do the yams. Collard greens, they got it, but mainly mac and cheese, cornbread. Now, do you make multiple stops on Thanksgiving? Or you want to say, oh, I'm coming through, and you'd be like, well, who cooked? Well, I have somebody through and you'd be like, well, who cooked? Well,
Starting point is 01:31:47 I have somebody prepared it for me. But I've really never been to someone else's house that's cooked Thanksgiving. You know, we always, everybody always came to my grandmother's house. And then when I got, when I was in the league,
Starting point is 01:31:58 I was just, you know, I was by myself a lot of times. Damn. Lights done went off again. Hold on. I know. Cheap of times. Damn. Lights done went off again. Hold on. I know. Cheap-ass hotel. Glory, glory.
Starting point is 01:32:22 Hallelujah. Since I Laid Rel said Chad on Nightcap Show Naming Thanksgiving food Baby we don't eat stuff We eat dressing
Starting point is 01:32:34 That's what I try to tell you Yes there's a difference My bad My bad Well listen I don't be in the kitchen She be in the kitchen Her mama be in the kitchen
Starting point is 01:32:43 All I do is eat I say I know you couldn't cook. When the food... Who? Cook. Yep. Oh, I could cook. I can't cook Thanksgiving dinner, but I can cook. I be cooking. I be... What? What you cooking? What you cooking? Huh? What you cooking?
Starting point is 01:32:57 Man, stir-fried rice. Goddamn stir-fried. Shrimp and pasta. You talk about man. Listen, I be in the house like Benny Hanna now. I'd be flipping shit in my hat. Ask Rel. Ask her. She in the chat.
Starting point is 01:33:10 Man, I'd be cooking. That's one thing I know about Rel. The one thing I know about Rel is because there are a lot of women that be lying for their man. Rel ain't going to lie for you. Yeah. I know she ain't going to lie for me. Yeah, because that's why I know
Starting point is 01:33:21 you ain't cook nothing. She'll tell you. She'll tell you. She'll tell you. She'll tell you, I can cook. You probably been cooking toes. Nasty. Nah, nah, nah. I can't even believe it.
Starting point is 01:33:33 That ain't nasty. You think I'm about to come to your house and drink out of any cup? Why? Why you think? What you trying to say? For one, I use styrofoam. I ain't even got glasses at home because I ain't washing man
Starting point is 01:33:49 dish. Nah, nah. Give me the bottle. I want the bottle to myself. I ain't gonna trust. I can't even trust that you ain't putting styrofoam cups back. Just give me the bottle to myself. Listen, I don't have dishes at home. I don't wash dishes. I like styrofoam or paper plates. That's what at home. I don't wash dishes.
Starting point is 01:34:07 I like styrofoam or paper plates. That's what I eat, I feel. Paper plates and sobo cups. Yeah, I ain't got time. You ain't finna run up my goddamn water bill washing dishes. You got shit. I'm throwing that in the trash. Absolutely.
Starting point is 01:34:17 Exactly. And I got plastic forks. Oh, me too. I got to get the bulk. The bulk plastic fork, plastic fork, spoons, knives. Yep. From Publix.
Starting point is 01:34:30 $20. Costco. Oh, okay. Well, hold on. You ain't got no Publix. Y'all ain't got no Publix in LA, huh? I don't think so, no. We got like Ralph's.
Starting point is 01:34:42 Okay, that's right, Ralph's. Kroger, which is, yeah, Ralph's, Kroger. What about Vaughn's? Gelson's. Vaughn's, yeah. Listen, we got these, I don't know what it is about the cupcakes from Publix. Man. I just like that fried chicken from Publix.
Starting point is 01:34:59 Oh, yeah. That fried chicken with wings. Wait, how you know about that? I'm from the South, Ojo. Okay, okay. Oh, that's right, that's right. What you know about Czech sodas? Them cheap. You get 20 of them for a dollar.
Starting point is 01:35:13 God damn right. I ain't like nobody great. Nobody great. We on the same page. When I go home sometimes, I go get me a Fanta. I like the grape or the orange, the Fanta. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:35:27 Okay, there we go. There we go. But you know what? I'm glad you're sticking to your roots, man. I like that. It's an old doctor. She got a nice,
Starting point is 01:35:34 she built like rail. Huh? She built like rail, an old doctor. Nah, nah. Nah, it's only one rail, boy. It is all it is. I'm looking for one
Starting point is 01:35:43 that's better than an old swamp-raised parcel. That's what I'm looking for. You know what swamp raised possum that's what I'm looking for you know what I'm saying Ocho I want one like that right now for real though Ocho hey
Starting point is 01:35:50 listen I want a stacked up like dirty laundry in the dorm room you know what I'm saying when you was in college had a laundry pile up that's what your boy
Starting point is 01:35:58 looking for hey listen boy you got your blessing on your hand now don't let it don't let it slip through your hand. Okay, okay, okay. I'll be good, I'll be good.
Starting point is 01:36:09 What God does is he continues to, he gives you three chances. Tonight is chance number two. Mm-hmm, mm-hmm, mm-hmm. Now, don't forsake him. Hey, you remember the movie Green Mile? Yeah. Wild Bill. I'll be good. I'll be good. I'll be good. I'll be good. Wild Bill funny with a little mouse, with a little mouse.
Starting point is 01:36:37 Yeah. Hey, that was a good movie, man. Goddamn John Coffey. Yeah, man. Guys, thank you for tuning in to another episode of Nightcap. Please make sure you hit that subscribe button. You've been unbelievable thus far.
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Starting point is 01:38:12 Whoa, whoa. Where we going? We ain't even sing a song to end the show. Okay, well, go ahead. What you got? Glory, glory. Glory, glory. You know the words, right?
Starting point is 01:38:24 I know you know the words of this Now, you from the South You grew up in the church Basically, I just know the chords Like most everybody else know the chords No, no Me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me Okay, let's go
Starting point is 01:38:42 Glory, glory Okay, let's go. Glory, glory, glory. Hallelujah. Why you call it the hallelujah? I lay my burdens down. Glory. I feel better. Bird of the South. Globe. I feel better. So much better.
Starting point is 01:39:14 Eh, eh, eh. Hold on, hold on, hold on. I'm enjoying it. Are you trying to get the lyrics? Yeah, I'm trying to pull it up. Hold on, hold on. All right, pull it up all right all right all right that's my jam man I feel baby yeah the glory glory hallelujah that's that's only the chorus oh I know you I you might want to just sing the chorus we don't want to go yeah yeah yeah yeah okay there's only
Starting point is 01:39:46 three lines of the chorus okay let's go you ready one two one two three glory glory hallelujah since i leave my Since I laid my burdens down. Glory, glory. Hallelujah. Since I laid my burdens down. Yeah. Thank you, ladies and gentlemen, for tuning in to another episode of Nightcap.
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