Club Shay Shay - Nightcap - Hour 1: Daniels shines vs Bucs, Eagles mediocre win, Unc’s Broncos get smacked

Episode Date: January 13, 2025

Shannon Sharpe and Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson react to rookie Jayden Daniels and the Washington Commanders defeating Baker Mayfield and the Tampa Bay Buccaneers 23-20 after Zane Gonzalez&rsq...uo;s FG doinks inside the uprights in the NFC Wild Card Playoff game. Later, Unc and Ocho discuss Jalen Hurts and the Philadelphia Eagles beating Jordan Love and the Green Bay Packers 22-10 in the NFC Wild Card game, Unc’s Denver Broncos get SMACKED 31-7 by Josh Allen and the Buffalo Bills in the AFC Wild Card Playoff game and much more!03:20 - Show start03:55 - Intro06:00 - Commanders v Bucs19:10 - Eagles v Packers35:30 - Bills v Broncos(Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.) #Volume #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:02:35 promos for deposit, wagering, and eligibility restrictions, terms, and responsible gaming resources. Hello ladies and gentlemen and thank you for joining us for another episode of Nightcap as you watch the Washington Commanders. They're the first road playoff team to win a playoff game this year. And Jayden Daniel joins some elite company as a true rookie to win his first playoff start, which is very, very impressive. They won the game on the last second,
Starting point is 00:03:15 doink field goal, 23-20. They go on the road and avenge an earlier season loss to the same Tampa Bay Buccaneer team, but this time they go on the road and they get it done, 23 to 20. Y'all know me, I'm your favorite uncle, Shannon Sharp. That guy is your favorite 85, the bingo ring of fame, artery, the pro bowler,
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Starting point is 00:05:41 road team to go on the road with a playoff game this year and they did it with a rookie Quarterback Jane Daniel was great when he needed to be and we've seen this over and over again They beat the Eagles they beat the Cowboys They won so many games in the waiting minutes because the boys that this young man displays He's never blustered. He's never he's never sped up Yeah, he's gonna make some a's never, he's never sped up. Uh, yeah, he's going to make some, a few mistakes because he's a young quarterback, but when he absolutely has to be at his best, Ocho, he absolutely is. And they go on the
Starting point is 00:06:12 road and get it done. Thanks to a Zane Gonzalez field goal that boink, doinks off the upright. And if you notice, that's why they put him on the left hash, because they know he, they push kicker. We'll be in. If he's in the middle of the field, that's going wide. Oh Joe, they put it on the left. He pushes it. It clips the upright and it goes in and they win 2320. Uh, Baker Mayfield was 15 or 18, 185 yards to touchdown. They ran the ball 25 times for 101 yards.
Starting point is 00:06:44 So they average 104 yards a carry. But that's not a lot of plays, Ocho. They only have 44 total plays to say that's not a lot at all. But the commanders time of possession was about 34 to 25. But the Washington commanders go on the road, get it done. I know they're excited about that. Washington is better when Washington, excuse me, the NFL is better with some of these old guards, Ocho, they hadn't been in the playoffs
Starting point is 00:07:09 in a long time. And when they were there, they didn't do a whole lot. But Washington go on the road, get it done. Thanks to Jane Daniels and the outstanding rookie quarterback for the commanders. Ocho, watching this game, Jimmy, what were your thoughts? Man, listen, it was a good game. It was a good game. It was kind of slow. It was low. It was the deepest of the game.
Starting point is 00:07:30 Most of it. It was, it was the deepest of the game. A lot, a lot of penalties, a lot of penalties, a lot of third and longs kept them, kept them from being a high scoring game, put themselves in somewhat of a deficit, you know, and in not, not having manageable third downs. Um, I enjoy, I enjoyed the matchup between Lattimore and Mike Evans. It wasn't the same, obviously. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:07:52 Mike, Mike, Mike, Mike, Mike, Mike, Mike, Mike. Yeah. Mike had the best of, it got so bad that Mark Lattimore was just trying to hip was trying to hip drop tackling, you see him on every, on every tackle the man trying to hip drop, was trying to hip drop tackling. You see him on every, on every tackle the man's trying to hip drop, the cover on man. Yeah, yeah. So, I mean, it was a good game.
Starting point is 00:08:12 Obviously it cost him, like, I thought Dan Campbell was going to cost him the game. What going for it on fourth down? Listen, he kept leaving points on the field. I said, listen, I'm hoping, I'm hoping that he'll come back and fight him, fight him in the ass now. Dan Campbell, Dan Quinn, I hoping, I'm hoping that they come back and fight them, fight them in the ass now. Dan Campbell, Dan Quinn. I mean, you know, sometimes we got confused tonight.
Starting point is 00:08:29 Hey, everybody with Dan, they got, they got cojones. They got cojones. The gambles paid off because the third time, the third time he went forward on four down, they scored to McLaurin. He hit McLaurin in the back of the end zone on the dig route. So obviously it paid off for Dan Quinn. He gambled. Listen, I'm happy for Jaden Daniels. I'm happy for Jaden Daniels. I'm happy for the commander's fan. It's been a very, very long time. I think maybe since 05, not mistaken, since they made the playoffs. Nah, they made the playoffs in the pandemic, right? Didn't they lose to somebody? What's the guy in the rookie quarterback that everybody was talking about?
Starting point is 00:09:03 They won. I mean, won. Oh, won the playoff game. Won. Okay quarterback? They won I mean one game one you think yeah Five but they made the playoff Yeah, what's the hybrid? Heineken Heineken they what they want They didn't win That was Tom Brady that was the year they won the Super Bowl, uh huh. Yeah. But I'm happy. I'm happy for him. Wait, who, uh, who they got?
Starting point is 00:09:27 Who they got to face? Who they got to face now? Who they got to face? They were the five seed. So they will place, they will, uh, let's get all the Detroit lions. They go to the lions. Oh, they face the lions.
Starting point is 00:09:42 That ain't, uh, no, the Lions scored on 30-35 a game. Oh, you got to be on your best behavior. You definitely got to be on your best behavior. But Ocho, there's a play like that, the first, the fourth down, that they went for, that they didn't get it. Daniel has the slide. The tight end is wide open. 87 is wide open.
Starting point is 00:09:59 The slide is your first read. What I didn't understand, Ocho, why would he look back inside? You could always come back inside. But if you don't take the slide right now, it's never going to be open. No, because you forgot it in your first read. It's like, I gotta be first. It is the slide is always the first read because you take slide. I could slide. He's covered. I could always come back inside because normally I got a slide, I got a seven, and I got the McClorn, I got somebody coming on the dagger
Starting point is 00:10:29 route running the back of the inline. I can always get back to that. But if I don't take this right now, I'm not getting that. Because they're going to be on it, and he's going to end up running out of bounds. And if they don't run out of bounds, he get close, they're going to push his ass out of bounds. He's not out of bounds, yeah.
Starting point is 00:10:44 And so I was surprised because he's a rookie and most rookies always take the first read because especially if it's there, it's a safe throw. I don't have no complication. Slide over, man, let me go ahead and get that thing away. And it's one yard, Ocho. That's a tug. That's a tug.
Starting point is 00:11:01 He second guessed himself. I mean, maybe because the end flashed him and he didn't think he had him, but he had more time, he had him by more than what he thought he was because LeBonte David is coming from the inside and he's the one that got him. And so that's why, as a matter of fact, you see they run the exact same play. Tampa ran the exact same play and hit Bucky Irving on the exact same play and get a touchdown, but they got a rub on the inside. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:11:27 Yeah, they brought the motion down. They brought the motion down. They had the double team. They had the double team on the other side. So they knew. They picked them. They picked them. The backers couldn't get over.
Starting point is 00:11:35 They picked them backers couldn't get outside. So even though they didn't pick him, it was a great play, but I just love the poise with this young. He's the, hey, he joins Joe Flacco, Mark Sanchez and Russell Wilson as the only Ricky quarterbacks to win their Debut in a role playoff win. That's huge That is not just not just for him but as city on for their organization for all they've been through You know, they didn't been through some stuff now. Yes, you know, yes new ownership new ownership You know, they didn't, they didn't been through some stuff now. Yes.
Starting point is 00:12:01 You know, new ownership, new ownership. It's been a very long time. That could happen. Yeah. New ownership come in, Ocho. They get somebody that understands. They get this. Look, everybody knew they were going to take Caleb Williams.
Starting point is 00:12:14 It's a very similar situation to what we had a year before. Right. Young and CJ falls in your lap. Jane Daniels fell in your lap. You ain't take no, hey, all I'm going to do, I'm going to take who you don't want. Hey, you know, Ocho, you know, we pick your lap. Jane Daniels fell in your lap. You ain't ain't ain't ain't ain't ain't ain't ain't ain't ain't ain't ain't ain't ain't ain't ain't ain't ain't ain't ain't ain't ain't ain't ain't ain't ain't ain't ain't ain't ain't ain't ain't ain't ain't ain't ain't ain't ain't ain't ain't ain't ain't ain't ain't ain't ain't ain't ain't ain't ain't ain't ain't ain't ain't ain't ain't ain't ain't ain't ain't ain't ain't ain't ain't ain't ain't ain't ain't ain't ain't ain't ain't
Starting point is 00:12:28 ain't ain't ain't ain't ain't ain't ain't ain't ain't ain't ain't ain't ain't ain't ain't ain't ain't ain't ain't ain't ain't ain't ain't ain't ain't ain't ain't ain't ain't ain't ain't ain't ain't ain't ain't ain't ain't ain't ain't ain't ain't ain't ain't ain't ain't ain't ain't ain't ain't ain't ain't ain't ain't ain't ain't ain't ain't ain't ain't ain't ain't ain't ain't ain't ain't ain't ain't ain't ain't ain't ain't ain't ain't ain't ain't ain't ain't ain't ain't ain't ain't ain't ain't ain't ain't ain't ain't ain't ain't ain't ain't ain't ain't ain't ain't ain't ain't ain't ain't ain't ain't ain't ain't ain't ain't ain't ain't ain't ain't ain't
Starting point is 00:12:36 . You ain't take no grip. All I'm gonna do, I'm gonna take who you don't want. And you don't show, you He's won two playoff games. They've won the division both years and he's won two playoff games one each year Got a chance to go on the road this time to take the take on the Chiefs But I love Jane Daniels defense playing well be wag is playing really really well I like the Dan Campbell edition But I what I love most is what they did for Jane Daniels. They went and got him an offensive my guru Say what you want to say about Cliff Kingsbury
Starting point is 00:13:06 as a head coach, but there's no denying his ability to call plays, his ability to work with quarterbacks. Several guys have won Heisman Trophy under his tutelage. Kyle Murray was offensive rookie of the year under his tutelage. Jayden Daniels will be offensive rookie of the year under his tutelage. He was the will be offensive rookie of the year under his tutelage. He was the quarterback coach. Uh, maybe he was, maybe he was the offensive coordinator at Texas A&M for Johnny Manziel. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:13:33 So there is no denying, especially quarterbacks that have that kind of dual set ability, Ocho, you know what I'm saying? They're unconventional. I mean, now we're starting to see more of it. Guys that can run and throw the football, but Cliff Kingsbury, like I said, you can say what you want to say about him as a head coach, but there's no denying his offensive mindset and his ability to work with the quarterback. Uh, would I be surprised if he's in Chicago next year?
Starting point is 00:14:01 I would not be surprised. Oh, Joe. Oh, wait, wait a minute. They've had in Chicago as a quarterback coach or maybe a head coach. I mean, I mean, Ben Johnson, Ben Johnson is, Ben Johnson could get that job, but Ben Johnson is going to probably be the most, the only job that Ben Johnson wasn't going to get was the, uh, the Patriots. And that's why AG, if you notice AG didn't go up. Man, look at man, y'all.
Starting point is 00:14:25 They pretty try me out there that no horse and pony show. I already know where y'all want to go. Hey, hey, I'm not going to be away from my family. I'm not going to be away from doing game playing. No, bro, that ain't happening. Hey, y'all already got your situation ironed out. Congratulations. I really appreciate that. But I'm going to go where there's a realistic chance for me to interview
Starting point is 00:14:44 and get said job But uh, yeah Ben Johnson to be off Ben Johnson my eye look Tom Brady I'm sure Tom Brady loves Ben Johnson with the Raiders, but if I'm being Johnson, no, no, no You don't got nothing to work with I don't have no work with I understand I like the bear I love the bears too. I think the bears is the best job available I like the Bears. I love the Bears too. I think the Bears is the best job available given what they got offensively. A quarterback, receivers, running back. Hey, get an offensive lineman, plug the offensive lineman in here or there. Yes, I agree with you. I'm not disagreeing, but somebody that has a quarterback, a young quarterback, or somebody's going to draft a quarterback, they're probably going to want a Cliff Kingsbury working with him.
Starting point is 00:15:25 Yeah. Yeah. Most definitely. Most definitely. Most definitely. I like it. I like it. Former LSU receivers, Malik neighbors, Brian Thomas Jr. were in attendance supporting their
Starting point is 00:15:35 former quarterback, Jayden Daniels. I like that. You don't see that. I mean, you see it a lot more in basketball, Ocho, where guys show up and support the guys, you know, sort of stuff like that. But I love to see this. It just goes to show you that this is a very close team. You remember, Ocho, earlier in the year,
Starting point is 00:15:53 Malik, Malik neighbors and Jane Daniels had a bet. NFL kind of made them say, you know, we got a little bet going on. We're gonna be rookie of the year, blah, blah, blah. They should have just kept it hush. Jay Daniels going to win, but Malik neighbors had a phenomenal season. It even when you have a phenomenal season, when you get the quarterback and this team makes the playoffs, it's going to be really, really hard.
Starting point is 00:16:16 Or yeah. For you to upstage it. Cause what did neighbors have? A hundred and six, a hundred and eight catches over 1100 yards, six, seven touchdowns. Had a phenomenal season. With no consistency at the quarterback position that day. But Jane Daniels as a true rookie playing the most important position in pro
Starting point is 00:16:33 sports, take this team and we think about it. They had the number two pick in the draft. So that lets you know, they weren't very good. But they get that one guy. That's all you need. And he flipped it, Ocho. He flipped guy. That's all you need. And he flipped it, Ocho. He flipped it. That's all you need.
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Starting point is 00:19:34 That's sure to cause a ruckus. Listen to NHL Unscripted with Burke and Demers and the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Yeah. Oh Joe, the Eagles defeated the Packers 22 to 10. Say, Quan Barkley rushed for 119 yards. The Eagles defense picked up Jordan love three times. I don't get why say Quan slid. I mean, I mean, Saquon. He's trying, he's being a team guy. He's being a team guy. Man, listen, man.
Starting point is 00:20:14 There was no chance. Oh Joe, even if you score a touchdown, if you scored a touchdown, so now you're about to make it 29, 10, how are they going to come back and score 20 points in a minute? 2910. How are they going to come back and score 20 points in a minute? I get the, Ocho, if it's a one, if it's a, let's just say you, you up by one. I get it. Ocho, you already up by 12. You score, you hit your head on the goalpost. That's two, that's a 200 yard rush day. There haven't been very many 200 yard rush days in NFL postseason history. Somebody in his ear. Oh, somebody might somebody. I'm gonna shut the hell up.
Starting point is 00:20:54 They, my, you mean, you ain't got to tell me because I said the same thing. I say, why are you sliding in a moment like that? What did Brady say? I'm sure Brady has something with, Did Brady say that was good or what? Anybody know what Brady said? Yeah, I couldn't hear the commentary because the line wasn't exactly loud. I didn't hear the commentary.
Starting point is 00:21:12 Well, I never hear the commentary. So that's why I've been interested. I get, look here, Coachell, in certain circumstances, I get it. A one score, let's just say, you up by one point. You scored it a chance. They give a two point conversion and tie them. I get that. Not in this situation.
Starting point is 00:21:29 Not in this one. That's why I said somebody was in his ear, somebody on the sideline probably told him before, if you get an opportunity, if you get a chance, if you break one open, let's go down. Oh, they say Brady said he didn't understand. Brady said there was no reason to slide. Okay. Brady said there was no reason to slide. OK. If Brady said he would. Oh, OK, Brady said he wouldn't have been so generous. Yeah, I'll show up by 12 points with a minute to go and I'm about to hit
Starting point is 00:22:02 and I get let's just say, oh, Joe, I got one hundred and twenty five yards. That right there, go give me 75 yards. That's going to give me a touchdown. 200 yards, boy, I'm going to the house. I ain't going to hold y'all. I'm going to the house. I don't, I don't know what he was doing. I, in a sense, it makes me think not only his decision. Well, yes, his decision, because he could have said he wanted to play or not.
Starting point is 00:22:22 The decision not to go after that record last week, which would have cemented his legacy in the history books. And then you come this week, you know, you have a clear touchdown, a clear touchdown. You're already up by two scores. Why not just go score? I mean, somebody in this year got him, listen, they got my dog brainwashed. They got him over thinking. He's thinking too much.
Starting point is 00:22:44 Yeah, they got my dog brainwashed. They got him too much. Yeah. Maybe they got my dog brainwashed. They got him overthinking. I'm going to analyze and every little thing, just play football. Just, just have fun, enjoy it. Because if you're not going to get these opportunities very often and it goes really fast, it goes really fast. So, I mean, it is what it is. I hope everything continues to work out for sake of on and that Eagles team.
Starting point is 00:23:02 They didn't, they look good today. They look good today, but they're not to me. They're not scoring enough points, man. They're not scoring enough points. They're not efficient throwing the ball as well. They're not using AJ Brown. Yeah, I thought it was just me, O'Joe. That's going to catch up. That's going to catch up to them. One for the Green Bay Packers having the injuries that they had or Jordan Love not being able to get that motor running and finding some type of chemistry with his team offensively. They lucky. Is it me or did the jailer hurts something? Maybe it's just me, maybe I'm just too critical, but Jalen Hurts did not look
Starting point is 00:23:39 good at least the first three and a half quarters on Joe. Maybe it's just me, though. Did you notice anything? He looked timid. They were running, I'm like, bro, Jalen, what are you doing? Run, go do something. Listen, I didn't really notice anything.
Starting point is 00:23:57 I think when I think about Jalen Hurts, I think he does everything within the realm of what he does good. He doesn't try to do anything extra. So I just saw Jalen do what he does good. He doesn't try to do anything extra. So I just saw Jalen do what he normally does. If it's there, he throws it. If it's not there, he's checking it down. If he doesn't see it, he pull it, he go through his read, he go through his progression.
Starting point is 00:24:15 If it's not there, he take off a run. If it's a run play, he really checks out of those. So I just saw him do exactly what he normally does. I just don't like the play calling to a sent. You got to run as a team, they're gonna stop the run. You got to be good with the pass. You got to be performable. It has to be a short game, a quick game,
Starting point is 00:24:31 whatever you need to do. You gotta get AJ Brown involved, man. I think we were well into what, maybe at halftime he had one target. What are you doing? Well, he had three targets, he had one catch. They ran a little fake, whatever they call that, that push play and they faked it and they try to hit AJ and he overshot him.
Starting point is 00:24:50 But I thought he was hurt. I said, well, maybe he's hurt. Maybe they don't want to rush it back or anything like that. But I was very surprised at how, how poorly he was playing early on in this ball game. Got off to a great start because they kick the ball off. The special teams do a great job of taking the ball and they go in and get a touchdown. Like, okay, you can't get a better start than what you got right here because you took the ball away from them and they didn't even get in the offense, didn't get a chance to possess it.
Starting point is 00:25:17 And now knowing you coming out of the half, you're going to get the ball. But I was surprised. I was like, maybe he hurt, maybe, maybe something is going on. And he kind of picked it up a little bit. That was Goddard that made an unbelievable play. Cause all he read was like a little bubble screen. And I was nice. Hey, you guys, as the, as the defensive back, you listen, you got to understand the laws of physics. I'm not sure 24th last name, but you got to understand the laws of physics. You don't try to come and tackle a tight end, that big up high. What are you doing? What are you? You gotta get from the floor from the knee from the knee down from the knee to the shoestring
Starting point is 00:25:52 Go low. Yes, cuz that's every time it's like it's like when Derek is running the ball and Dvd and Dvd's are coming up and instead of going low they trying to tackle him up high What you think happen? Well, I think the thing is with their mistake, their making, they getting too close to him. He gonna step on your ass. He gonna put you on his highlight reel. Ask Josh Norman, ask the guy last night, ask Minka Fitzpatrick, he gonna put you on his highlight reel. So when you get close to Derrick Henry, and he does a great job, cause it's so late when it comes out. Cause a lot of guys they figured out and the DBs have gotten smart they chopped the arm and knocked it down and get you off balance and then the same thing as a pass rusher Ocho if a guy gets lazy with his outside arm the guy knocks it down you lean he bend the edge he on your
Starting point is 00:26:36 quarterback. Guys you have to understand physics you got to be strong inside kick to it because you're gonna just use this to push him back but if you get this out there they done got good at doing this it because you're going to just use this to push him by. But if you get this out there, they don't got good at doing this. It brings you forward. Now guess what? Give him a clip pass to your quarterback. So, uh, but Jordan loves the three turnovers. And that's the thing. He has this, he'll go seven, eight games and he won't turn it over.
Starting point is 00:27:02 But then he'll go three or four games where he have two, three every day. Yeah. And this is, this is the game that you can't do. No, not the playoffs. Yeah. Yeah. Not, not in a game like this. And then plus for the injuries, everybody going out, watching was out.
Starting point is 00:27:17 Um, Romeo dogs goes out. I think he, he even had the, he had the concussion cap on. Yeah. Yeah. But he was so high. It don't even matter what you had on with you. I think he had a concussion cap on. Yeah, yeah. But he was so high, it don't even matter what you had on, Joe. He was so high up in the air. And when that back hit, when his back hit, the next thing hit was that hip.
Starting point is 00:27:36 Remember what I told you? Remember when we argued about that concussion cap early on the show? Yes. No, listen, anyway, that's a whole nother story. But then the other receiver went down. Who was it? Was it somebody else went down too?
Starting point is 00:27:51 Was it Reed? Hold on, let me see. Wiggs or Reed? Well, Wiggs had, I don't even remember, Ojo. Yeah, he lost three of his targets. So I mean, that's really, that's really no excuse. He has, Jordan has to play better. He has to play better.
Starting point is 00:28:07 Oh, Joe. Especially in games like this. Yeah. Cause I thought the defense did a good enough job neutralizing the Eagles early on. Yes. And they should have gotten something because there were a couple of drives
Starting point is 00:28:19 that the Eagles went three and out, three and out, three and out. And that was the Packers opportunity to catch to to cash in on those, especially on the road. I want to take the crowd out of it. Let me give me a little touchdown here there and I can take the crowd out of it. Now I can function. But they were really never able to get anything sustainable. And the Eagles end up winning this ball game by the score of 22 to 10.
Starting point is 00:28:42 But Jayler hurts going to have to throw for more than 121 yards, 100, that ain't gonna cut it. Listen, they were lucky, I don't mean to be rude, I don't mean to be disrespectful, but you're lucky you're not playing it off in the juggernaut today. Yes. You're not playing it off in the juggernaut, you know, because, listen, scoring 22 points is not gonna beat the, you know, your Detroits. And it ain't gonna beat Minnesota either.
Starting point is 00:29:02 It ain't gonna beat Minnesota either. It ain't gonna be Minnesota either. You got to be able to put up, you got to be able to score points. I mean, as good as your defense is. Now, I'm not gonna take anything away from that because the defense played well today as well, but you got to put up points. Now, who do the Eagles have to face now?
Starting point is 00:29:17 They're gonna face the winner, Minnesota or the Rams. Now, we talking about two teams that could put up 30 in the blink of an eye. But see the thing is the Eagles are counting on us, yeah, but we're not going to be in the dome. So we're hoping that we get, you know, we get cold weather, we get wind conditions, blah, blah, blah, because they're dome teams. Even if you're playing in Philly, Philly ain't that cold.
Starting point is 00:29:38 But the weather. It ain't nothing but 40, 40, 30 degrees. It might be snow. It might be wind. Okay. You got a dome team. Normally dome teams don't like to come out of those domes. Oh, the lions play teams. They build their team to play on that fast ass turf.
Starting point is 00:29:53 Yeah, the lions play well in the cold now. Yeah. The vikes play well in the cold now, even though they're dome teams, if you look at the time that they had to be on the outside, they've been okay. But if you think about it, Detroit had really been outside. They played Minnesota.
Starting point is 00:30:07 That's a dome. They played the Texas. That's a dome. You know, they played the Rams. That's a dome. They played the Cowboys. That's a dome. So even they get a home game and get, they go on the road.
Starting point is 00:30:19 Minnesota dome. That's nine. Uh, who else they played? That was in the, that was in a dome. The Texas that's 10, 10 of their 17 games, and now they got home court. They got home field. So theoretically they won't have to come out of a dome. You know, that's yeah.
Starting point is 00:30:37 Yeah. Oh, you're in a dome. Cause you remember the Rams, the Rams built their team to play on that fast ass turf. Yeah, sir. Yeah. You had Oz, you had Tori, you had a Reverend Knight. You have Marshall. You had Dave A. Put you in space, scan protection, everybody out.
Starting point is 00:30:59 Hey, make somebody missing. Hit your head on the goalpost. Every time. But it was, I'm just saying this. I don't know moving forward if this type of offensive performance will win Philly a game. It was enough today, but I don't know moving forward if it will be enough.
Starting point is 00:31:19 No, I mean, they won't be. The coaches know that. The staff know that. Hell, even the players know that based on who your opponent is gonna be. It is gonna be the Lions, it's gonna be the coaches know that they're all the staff know that hell even the players know that based on who your opponent's Gonna be it is gonna be the Lions is gonna be the Vikings Whichever one is you understand that you can't score 22 points and beat the Vikings or the Lions And that's put too much pressure on your defense
Starting point is 00:31:37 Now you're telling the whole a team that scores almost 30 a game the entirety of the season The damn 20 points or 17. That's not gonna happen No, you got to open up the playbook AJ Brown was caught on camera reading a book on the sideline. It's called inner excellence Jalen Hurts spoke about it after the game. Let's take a listen Everybody has a different thing and finds their flow in different ways. So that's how we choose to do it.
Starting point is 00:32:15 That's different. Oh, yeah, for sure. That's different. Now, when you say he's reading the book, I wonder what the book is about. What does the book continue to keep him locked in the end of the game? Maybe the book keeps him focused so he doesn't lose sight of the end goal
Starting point is 00:32:30 at hand and not get upset. You know, he might've been frustrated. So reading the book and being locked into that keeps him calm. It keeps him within his right state of mind, you know, instead of being frustrated about not, about not contributing, about not getting the ball, not being part of the offense. So I kind of like it. I like it. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:32:50 I agree with you. I think that's what it's because I think the thing is, it's a situation where, you know, I've got, I've got the channel and not let my emotions consume me because I know I'm good enough to get 10, 11 targets, but here I am with one and I'm halfway through this game. And so let me calm down. Let me focus on the bigger picture, which is to win this game. I can't say all I care about is winning and they complain about targets and catches when
Starting point is 00:33:20 we win and I didn't get said targets or catches. So I think it's trying to calm him down. It gets him. And like you said, it gets him in a space that he's able to function and not let the motion that let his emotions run wild and become frustrated, become a distraction. And because I think the last thing that AJ Brown wants to do is to become a distraction on a team that has that has the goods. And they're good enough to get towards get to and potentially win the Super Bowl.
Starting point is 00:33:46 So, hey, like you said, whatever work flows your boat. I had to I couldn't I was focused on with that game. I had tunnel vision. I didn't want to talk about no newspaper. I want to talk about no book. Hell, I was the last time I read a book and I wasn't about to read what on the sideline because because the guy was you see what you do that show. They don't they don't talk tuck the physical out of the game so much they got guys reading books on the sidelines. They got guys reading books on the sidelines. Hey, when you had Ray Lewis and Erlich and Donkies
Starting point is 00:34:16 and all those guys trying to peel your damn cap, you weren't thinking about no book. Oh, at all. At all. So it is, and look, I've said, whatever, whatever gets a guy in that space that he's able to function at his absolute best, I'm all for it, but uh. And plus it is not a distraction. Nah.
Starting point is 00:34:35 It's not a, not at all. Not at all. Okay, Ocho, unfortunately, that was not the only two games today. There were a third game today. Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, cause then what is going to be a good one? Let me, let me, let me get my celebratory cigar. I told, I told Ash, I hear Ash earlier.
Starting point is 00:34:54 I said, Ash, can you get me some Laporte, you know, before the show starts? Because I'm going to drink tonight. I'm going to drink tonight. I don't, I'm not a drinker, people know that in the chat. You should have ordered it. Hold on. Listen, I didn't know I was going toer people know you should have ordered it. Hold on. I listen I didn't know I was gonna do this, but I had to celebrate so tonight. I'm gonna celebrate, huh? I got my 40
Starting point is 00:35:13 I'm gonna keep it covered up. I'm gonna keep it covered up Let me give me a sit down Hold on, hold on, let me get my stuff, hold on now. I don't know. Ah! I hope the sprinklers goes off when you start smoking in the house too. Wet your ass up. Hell, I should have been drinking myself. I should have been drunk by now. Man, that joke can't wait for that. I felt good.
Starting point is 00:35:50 I felt good. We got to touch down early chat. I felt good. I'm like, oh yeah, we got this. Hey, we doing some things. Held them to three points. I'm like, OK, OK. Hey, we going for it on fourth down.
Starting point is 00:36:12 Let's go. You ready? Who was the game? Who was the other game? The Bills defeated the Broncos 31 to 7. Matter of fact, let me. Well, well, well, well, it would be. Don't say anything that's all it would be. Don't say Buffalo. Don't say Bargoes. Matter of fact, don't even say bitch.
Starting point is 00:36:31 Okay. Okay. Two teams playing today up in upstate New York, near the Canadian border. Yes, sir. The team from the West didn't fare very well as a team that I played for. Right, right. And as a matter of fact, they didn't fare what? They didn't fare very well.
Starting point is 00:36:50 I'mma drink to that. See, that's what you get. That's what you get. See? See, that's what happens. That's what happens when you make for the war of God's children. Hold on, let me get some, uh, hold on. God damn it. See that what happened? That what happened? Will you make for the world of God's children? Shit. Hold on, let me get some, uh, hold on. God damn it. Uh huh.
Starting point is 00:37:10 See chat? See? That's what he get. That's what he get. Don't worry about it. The party, the party gonna keep going. Let me whack this up. I wanna, I don't wanna mess up the flow. Don't worry about it.
Starting point is 00:37:25 The party, the party on keep going. Let me like this up. I want to mess up the flow. But anyway, the team that won, they scored 31 unanswered points. How many, how many, how many days ago? They scored 31 unanswered. Denver, Denver jumped out to a seven nothing lead. Great pass. Bo Nicks to Troy Franklin and oh I can't say Nicks the quarterback for the Broncos hit Troy Franklin on a 43
Starting point is 00:37:55 yard touchdown and double coverage and they took an early seven nothing lead had to feel good about themselves. But, uh, Josh Allen and James Cook, they were just too much. Alan way, way too much, way too much. The fact that you even thought they had a chance. That's the funny part. You were so confident yesterday. I don't have the same energy. I I'm trying to understand where's the energy you had yesterday. Matter of fact. I don't have the same energy. I'm trying to understand where the energy you had yesterday. Matter of fact, I'm a drink to that one more time.
Starting point is 00:38:30 Hey, but the thing was. I had the energy because that was before the game. I already know the outcome of the game now. No, but you knew the outcome of the game yesterday. You knew the outcome. I told you what it was going to be. I'm not sure why you didn't understand that. The people in the chat tried to tell you. I tried to tell you.
Starting point is 00:38:52 You don't have to be Cleo and see and be able to predict the future to know that y'all didn't have a chance. And you know what? You know what the football guys did to you? The football guys gave you hope. Yesterday, I told you you were hopeless romantic. You're hopeless romantic. And that's exactly what they gave you. They gave you hope at the beginning of the game but they went down and scored. So I bet you were sitting
Starting point is 00:39:10 back and you was feeling good. Oh my Broncos. That first tub. And we got a tub at 43 yards. I said okay. Okay there we go. Now y'all got a tub. Matter of fact why did y'all even make the playoff? Because now y'all home with us. Whoa. Y'all got a tub. Matter of fact, why does y'all even make the playoffs? Cause now y'all home with us. Well, y'all home with us. We'll see. Here's the thing. When you make the playoffs, there is a, listen, I'm going to say this. There is a, there's a chance.
Starting point is 00:39:35 Obviously you got like, you got like Kansas city and the Ravens and Detroit. They have the greater percent of winning the Superbowl. But even though the Broncos had a small percent, probably less of milk chance, 2%. Your team may have no chance. Cause they wasn't even in it. Not even 2%. They had almond milk, almond, almond, almond chance.
Starting point is 00:39:59 Almond. And matter of fact, you, y'all ain't even, you ain't even, you ain't even pinched them. You ain't even pinch them. You ain't even pinch him You know pencil bills You know if the bank let you know what how I did in the bangles when the playoffs hypothetically speaking We would have given them a better game. We definitely would have been we might have won that game No, here you go. Here you go Go
Starting point is 00:40:29 go there you go okay you can't you can't jump off the train like that you can't jump off the train like that you can't you you are wrong 12 year They played they played yesterday they played yesterday I don't want to hear you say foot or ball. Don't want to you say play all I don't know You say no words with the letter B. What about Ravens? Buffalo Bills, I want to hear I want to he say Broncos. I want to. I want to hear you say Beauty and the Beast. I don't want nothing. Ravens! Huh? D. Henry, L. Jack, Marla Humphrey.
Starting point is 00:41:14 No. No. No. You were talking crazy last night too. Oh, my Broncos this, my Broncos that. I told you. Hey as a matter of fact guess what Ocho? What? We're gonna have a Raven join us tomorrow night. Who? Don't worry about it. Which one? I reached out to my team that they got play uh that's still in the playoffs. I mean it would be nice if we could have a Bingo join us. They ain't got itch to do. So have Joe DeJoy call in. Have Chase, the T-Higgins.
Starting point is 00:41:47 Well matter of fact, wait a moment, hey listen, they ain't got nothing to do. You know what we got to do? We gonna help you book your Broncos some flights to meet us in Cancun. Nah. Hey put your head in there. Cancun on three.
Starting point is 00:41:57 I'm in Maryland. Cancun on three. As a matter of fact, I'm getting ready to go to Maryland. For what? Ah ha ha ha ha ha ha. The Ravens. Now you man, you are Bronco. Let's all, hey, so what happened to your team today?
Starting point is 00:42:12 What happened to your team today? We got railroaded, we got beat. Oh, okay. Okay. We got beat. Hey, do you think the bangles that they made, do you think they would have put up seven points? I don't like to be a hypotheticals.
Starting point is 00:42:25 I would like to think if I was Elon Musk, I would be the world's richest man. If I was, but I'm not. I would like to think I would have made all the decisions that he made. Hey, one thing about it, boy, just make sure the rest of the night, I don't want to hear you say anything
Starting point is 00:42:42 that starts or ends with a B. I don't want to hear you say football. I don't want to hear you say play or all. You are not a raven. I'm not sure why you can't... Listen, you have nothing to do with the ravens at all. You played there for two years. Again, two years in a relationship is a honeymoon phase. You don't even know each other yet. I know. Matter of fact, you ain't even moving together yet. Matter of fact, two years you ain't even met her parents yet. I did. Okay a matter of fact, you ain't even moved in together yet. As a matter of fact, two years, you ain't even met her parents yet. I did. Okay?
Starting point is 00:43:07 I mean. Oh Joe, I was one of the offensive weapons that we had. Do you not remember? Hey, I understand your greatness. I don't want to take anything away from you. You're a three-time Super Bowl champion. Three times Super gold champion. I think seven, six time pro bowl.
Starting point is 00:43:27 Your hall of fame. Eight time pro bowl. Your hall of fame. Number 267. But you were Denver Broncos. I was Raven. You made the pro bowl at the Denver Broncos. Not as a Baltimore.
Starting point is 00:43:38 I made the pro bowl. No, no. Both of the teams are on the plaque. You made the hall of fame at the Denver Broncos. No, no. It's not like baseball. Both teams are on the plaque. Denver Broncos. No, no, it's not like baseball. Both teams are on the plaque. Hey, Terrapin Gear, flop.
Starting point is 00:43:53 We flopped him. Boy, what are we, what? Listen, I'm listening. I'm drunk, man. That's okay. We gonna have a good show tonight. Hey, Ocho. What you think about my Ravens?
Starting point is 00:44:11 Huh? What you think about my Ravens? Oh, you off topic. The Ravens was yesterday. Today's the Broncos. Oh, oh, oh, but we won. I mean, you can always celebrate a victory. Wait, you celebrated yesterday.
Starting point is 00:44:23 We are supposed to be talking about the Broncos. What happened to your team? Hold on just a second. How many Broncos fans we got in the chat tonight? I mean, no disrespect. This is all love. This is all love. Hey, it's Bobby Bones. Join me and former NFL quarterback Matt Castle
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Starting point is 00:47:30 That thing shine. It's amazing how you just. Matter of fact. How do you think this makes. How do you think. How do you think this makes the Broncos fans feel? The Broncos, I look at it, first of all, everything that I've done with the Broncos, okay, with that team in Denver is there, it's Chronicle, it's the thing. Everything I did for the two years that was with the Ravens, that's also there,
Starting point is 00:48:01 Ocho? Yeah. Two years, that, that ain years, that ain't no time. Let that sit here. Ocho, think about what I was able to accomplish in two years. Yeah. Two years! Five playoff wins, a Super Bowl, a Pro Bowl.
Starting point is 00:48:23 I feel you, um. But how about the Broncos? Nah, we didn better team one. Oh, I'll be I want you Okay, I did I did I did I do so hey, I don't owe you no money no more right? Yeah, you do you owe me fifty two hundred But the bottle as a matter of fact, I'm gonna get chilies. Uh, uh But the matter of fact, I'm gonna get Shilly's uh uh uh uh uh. Wait a minute, the Broncos lost. I thought we I thought we doubled it up. No we ain't doubled nothing. You sure? I'm positive.
Starting point is 00:48:54 I could I could have swore I could have swore. You tried to send my money to Michelle. You tried to send my money you tried to send my money all over the place except where you were supposed to send it to me. Why? Wait a minute. I mean listen if I you you don't have any of the apps Well, shelly, okay, okay, I'll send it to Shelly No problem, and I'm gonna need another two thousand for processing
Starting point is 00:49:27 Processing what don't you process don't you have to process stuff on cash apps? Yeah, they already take the fee out. Whoa, whoa, whoa. Hold up, what'd you say, Jordan? Oh yeah, they said if you wanted the same day, you gotta pay a fee. So go ahead and add that fee to it. The fee ain't number $29. Okay, we'll add $5,229. That's fine. That's fine. Just send me the the information. I got I have it to you tomorrow.
Starting point is 00:49:50 There you go, George. Send it back over there. Hey, his head. He can't take his helmet off. What the hell get blint on my face? Oh yeah. How about them Broncos? Broncos country, let's ride. It's my turn! It's my turn! What's your turn for, Ocho?
Starting point is 00:50:19 I want to talk about them Broncos. You mighty quiet. You had so much to say about the Bengals when the Bengals didn't make the playoffs. Y'all didn't. I don't hear nothing. I don't hear nothing. We're not talking about Bo Nicks. We're not talking about Sean Payton. I mean, give me seven. The chat want to hear what happened. I was busy fixing my helmets of the two teams that I played for the Ravens And the team from Denver. Yeah, what you ain't bought the Broncos helmet all day. What happened to your Broncos roll?
Starting point is 00:50:53 Why you wear today? I don't need to wear the roll, but I bet y'all have it on Oh, oh now you don't need to wear y'all to y'all don't win It's getting dry clean. It's getting dry clean. But I'm going to bring up. I'm going to bring up. I'll tell you what I will have on. I bet you I have on my black Raven jacket. Nah we.
Starting point is 00:51:12 Well that's funny. That's funny to have that word. Yeah, how that funny? Hey, you made your main chick. When your main chick things don't work out. All of a sudden you want to wear all your sad chick stuff. Can you say there's always that one? That always have access?
Starting point is 00:51:20 Right. Okay to you. The Ravens got access to my heart. Well actually that's not the way it works. The one who's been with you the longest, the one who's tenured with you the longest, that's who normally has your heart. Not the new one. That ain't nothing but lust. That ain't nothing new. That ain't nothing but two ears ain't nothing but lust. You and me. Oh, that was great. I mean, they chased me. They flew me out there on a private jet. They wind and die on me. Oh, I Oh. Yeah. I'm feeling good. I'm feeling good. But in all that, look, once Buffalo got it going,
Starting point is 00:52:09 Ocho, I think they had five. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Once who got it going? The team in upstate New York. Thank you. Don't, nothing would have been. Once they got it going, I think they had like five drives of five minutes or more, and they ended up getting points out of all those drives.
Starting point is 00:52:27 Yeah. When you have the when you possess the ball for that length of time and you come away with points. Now, the other team's marginal error gets smaller and smaller because what's happening is that they're possessing the ball, keeping it away from you. They're not turning it over so you can't get scooping scores and pick sixes. And when you have it, it puts so much pressure on you because now you see your defense is not slowing them down.
Starting point is 00:52:51 They get third and one, they get fourth and one. Josh Allen's gonna keep the ball. And now how you keep them, you know, from that, in the situation where they don't pick it up. James Cook ran the ball, three rushes, 120 yards. Allen was eight for forty six. Johnson was nine for forty four. And I think the play that really broke
Starting point is 00:53:13 their back was that they went four on four down. Allen bought time and then he found the guy in the back of the end zone. That kind of count. Hey, hold on. We got to pay young boys some respect on that catch. That was a hell of a catch. As a running back to be able to scoop that up, get your arm up under it so it doesn't hit the floor. I mean, that was phenomenal.
Starting point is 00:53:35 And keep your feet from going out of bounds because it was really close for his foot scrape out of bounds. But that was a heck of, look, we know what the bulls, I think they were like, I think they were second or third in point score. So we know, look, they score 40 plus in back to back weeks. They lose 42, 44, and then they come back the next week and win 45, 42. So we know the type of team that this is.
Starting point is 00:54:03 They can put points on you, and they can put points on you to hurry. Look, both games in the AFC will be rematches. The Texans lost to Kansas City and Houston and the Bills got thumped week four. Baltimore, Doug Henry ran wide. Now we're going to see see can they replicate that again. Well, you know they're gonna do the same thing. The Ravens are gonna line up and do exactly what they've always done. They're not changing nothing. They're not changing nothing. You have a wrinkle or two, you know, a
Starting point is 00:54:39 wrinkle or two, that's pretty much it. But what you see is what you get. When you watch film on the Ravens the past 17, 18 weeks, including the first playoff game, you've seen the same thing you've seen all season. Right. You line up, you know it's coming, and you still can't stop it. Right.
Starting point is 00:54:53 They haven't, nobody's been able to stop it. Now there've been a few bumps in the road. Where they don't give Henry enough carries. Huh? Where they don't give Henry enough carries. Where they don't give Henry enough carries. The question will they have Zay Flowers back? Remember Ocho, he missed the first game. Will he be back? That's another weapon that they have at their disposal.
Starting point is 00:55:19 Those two big tight ends are really playing well for the Ravens. But hey, the Bills, OK, the team in upstate New York, they got a great set of tight ends. I don't think they're on the level of Andrews and likely, but Knox and King K can play. They can grow, they're good. And normally what happens, and maybe I'm wrong in this, maybe it's just my way of thinking,
Starting point is 00:55:41 but teams that normally have good tight ends, they struggle covering other teams tight end. So we're going to see, can Baltimore take advantage of linebackers and safeties and coverage on likeland Andrews and can, uh, the other team take advantage of Kincaid and Knox and pass coverage against the Raven. But it's going to be, it's going to be. Every, this is the matchup everybody wanted to see it all. This is what they wanted to see.
Starting point is 00:56:11 Oh Joe, they really did because we believe these are the two front runners for the MVP. I believe Lamar is going to win because he was the first to use all pro quarterback, first team, Josh, yellow was second team. Now it's hard. It's going to be hard for me to see. Cause these are the same 50 guys, men and women that voted for the all pro team. They vote for the MVP.
Starting point is 00:56:36 Yeah. Now, unless something unforeseen happened, say, Kwan ends up winning it. Now I can understand. I, I'm just saying, I could understand that Lamar first team quarterback, Saquon Barkley wins the MVP. I couldn't understand if Lamar is the first team all-pro quarterback and Josh Allen is somehow MVP. So how can he be the MVP and not be first team?
Starting point is 00:57:02 I don't wanna get into that. It's kinda like like, uh, Mark Gasol, Mark Gasol was defensive player of the year, and he wasn't first team all NBA, which makes no sense to me. Right. How can you be an MVP? So how can Josh Allen be an MVP and not be first team on a pro? So that's my only, that's the only thing I can think of. Oh Joe, say, Juan Barclay, the only, that's the only thing I can think of Ocho. Say, who are the MVP? That would make sense. Anybody other than that. It doesn't make sense to me being the MVP over Lamar.
Starting point is 00:57:34 So were you, were you, you, you leaning to you leaning towards Lamar also? Lamar. Yeah, absolutely. Absolutely. And listen, the voters have always been consistent. The voters have always been consistent with it. So it's 2013. Huh? Since 2013, the first, if an MVP was a quarterback,
Starting point is 00:57:50 he was also first team all pro. So you go back to Peyton and Brady and Rogers and Mahomes, Lamar, every first team quarterback, that every quarterback that won MVP since 2013 has been, and I think Peyton kicked that off. Peyton. The only time where I think it could have changed or would have been perfect is if San Juan had played that last game and was able to reach that, not only in reach that, that not only in the system, but get that, make history.
Starting point is 00:58:27 I think it would have changed everything. I think it would have changed everything, but they, they chose to sit out. He chose to sit out. Um, but look, they played extremely well today. Uh, when they play it like this, they get it going and a team at home, Ocho, they get it going on you. It's hard. It's hard to stop it. 42 minutes to 18 minutes. 26 they doubled them up on first downs. They were 50 percent a little over 50 percent on third down.
Starting point is 00:58:59 They were two for two on fourth downs. They ran 30 more plays. They doubled them up in total yards. They had the same amount of drives. But. And Buffalo did think about the Buffalo was what run for five in the red zone. Denver was all one. Neither team turned the ball over. The better team won hands down the better quarterback, they had everything that's better. And once the defense couldn't get off the field on third and fourth downs, they started scoring touchdowns. You could see the life, it's kind of like an anaconda or constrictor.
Starting point is 00:59:40 Slowly but surely, they start to start the life out of you. And you can see the start to squeeze the life out of my team. You know, one thing I can say about the Broncos, one thing I could say about Sean Payton is what they have found is they found their quarterback of the future. They found their quarterback of the future. He's going to have a bright future ahead of him as you continue to build pieces around him. You're going to be fine.
Starting point is 01:00:09 Your defense is good. Your defense is good. And Sean Payne has always, always done well with quarterbacks. Similar to that, when I think about his maturation and process when he had Drew Brees all those years. Now it's going to be Bo next turn and Bo is gonna be fine. If you're Broncos fans, you're in the chat. I mean, you should be happy.
Starting point is 01:00:28 You should be very proud despite you going home the day early, you went home to a better team. But at some point, maybe a year, maybe two, your team will be in the same position like Josh Allen and the Bills are right now because of Bo Nix and what he's able to do. As he continues. Can I ask you a question? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:00:47 Who gets excited about a team losing? I'm the champs like, wait, where's the energy? So I'll say, yeah, my team lost. Oh, Joe, oh, Joe, my team lost. Because, because, because what you did yesterday, yesterday, yesterday, you was high, you were energetic into it. Huh? They hadn't played.
Starting point is 01:01:04 I mean, even if they hadn't played, mean even if they hadn't played I was I was telling you what was going to happen I know what was gonna happen I told you I told you what was gonna happen in week six y'all not gonna make the playoffs and listen the fact that listen we we would have pinched him at least the Broncos didn't even pinch they ain't pinched none of the bills just pick y'all didn't pinch y'all didn't pinch the Patriots. Why didn't y'all pinch them? That was, that was what? 20 weeks ago? You talking about a game 20 weeks ago? You didn't win 20 weeks ago so you don't get to play now.
Starting point is 01:01:36 It's okay. It's okay. It's okay. I know, I know, I know my team, even though, listen, there was no point of y'all even going. Yes, it was. We did that. Y'all, think about it. Y'all had led the league in quarter, and passing yards, led the league in touchdown passes, a triple crown winner, got to lead the league in sacks and home. We ain't leading league in nothing.
Starting point is 01:02:01 Well hell, y'all hung too. What's the difference? Y'all got to have, y'all done booked up all the league in nothing. Well hell, y'all hung too. What's the difference? Y'all got a hand start. Y'all done booked up all the hotels in Jamaica. Oh no, we got more. No, we don't. We got more.
Starting point is 01:02:13 We got 53 extra reservations for all y'all. We don't want to go where y'all go. We gonna hang out with y'all. We got more. We going to Cabo. Hey listen, I can tell you this. What? I can tell you this, and I believe this wholeheartedly.
Starting point is 01:02:26 We would have put up a better fight than what y'all did today. Oh Joe, why y'all shouldn't put up a fight during the season? So you can't say you gonna put up a fight in the post season when you don't put up a fight in the regular season. Listen, y'all got lucky and got in. That's it. How do we get lucky?
Starting point is 01:02:45 Cause the AFC the FC north is so competitive Y'all have three teams in the playoffs. We had three teams in the playoffs We had a 15 or the chiefs are 15 and well, no 15 and 2 15 and 2 Hey 15 and 2. Hey, uh, I'm drunk. Hold on. Y'all didn't have no two, no. No, no, no, let me take that back. I apologize.
Starting point is 01:03:18 Y'all had two teams in the playoffs, the Steelers and the Ravens. Two of y'all sorry no good for nothing. Didn't make it. Who does it think? Oh, the AFC, no, the NFC North had three teams. Detroit, Green Bay, and Minnesota. AFC West, Chiefs, Chargers, and Denver. Listen, it's all good. I don't know. I don't mean to talk about hypotheticals. We both have. You been talking about hypotheticals? Or we the least pissed them?
Starting point is 01:03:50 How do we know that? We would have. Actually, we might have won that game. If it was that Bengals offense that we saw the last two, three weeks, we would have won that game. Hey, if Jordan Pickens didn't have Bricks' hands, the Sters would have beat y'all.
Starting point is 01:04:09 I don't remember that game. You do? I don't. Yes. I'm talking about what would have happened if we were in. I don't know what would have happened. I know what did happen. We made the playoffs and y'all didn't.
Starting point is 01:04:21 I'm telling you what would have happened if it was us. I'm telling you. We would have won and we would have won the game and you what would have happened if it was us. I'm telling you, we would have won, and we would have won the game, and we wouldn't have went out sad like that. Like that was embarrassing. There was no point in even showing up. That's okay.
Starting point is 01:04:33 Now, hey, look, you can't make me feel bad. I'm proud of my team. I'm proud of them too. I'm proud. Are you proud of the Bengals? Yeah, you know, I'm proud of the Broncos. I'm proud of them, you know. No, you're not. No, you want to hate on us.
Starting point is 01:04:48 No, I'm, no, now you know I always show love, now don't do that. No, no, no. You don't show love by kicking a man while he down. I'm not kicking him while he down. He's still up. No, you try to kick my team. I don't even know why they showed up. They'd have been better not even showing up. They should have let us win you can you been kicking my team all you know, what you talking about? I'll be down all year That's the best time to kick a man. I Can't check can y'all think of a can y'all think of a better time to kick a man?
Starting point is 01:05:17 Okay, he down your feet on the ground. He right there. Kick him. I Can't think of a better time to kick a man than when he down. Why let him up? He might get the best of you then. No, I'm not finna let it, but no. Yeah, no. No, I'm not finna let you up.
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